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THE
HISTORY and PROCEEDING
i^.ti^J^^.^.:t OF THE
oufe of Commons
FROM THE
RESTORATION
T O TH E
PRESENT TIME3
CONTAINING
The moft remarkable Motioms, Speeche!;, R
SOLVES, KePORTS and C0NF£RENC£S to b
met with in that Interval :
1
AS ALSO
Tbc moftexaft Estimates of chc Charpe of Govern
State of the Pub tic Rev8nue j the Rife and Gm
tbc National DiBT, Expcnce of the War, Pi
in^on Ways and Means, Speeches, and Mes
from the Throne, Addresses and Rsmonstranc
alfo the Numbers Pro and Cm "upon every DivJiion, (*(c.
Maiiy of which Curioai Parriculan were never before piinto
Oilleded from the bdl Authorities,
Conpiitd wiib the Joukkali of Ihc Hou»e :
And illudratcd wkb a gmc Variety of Historical a
Explanatory TSqtei.
Together with a large APPENDIX,
CONTAINING
ExaR Lists of every Parliament, ihc Names of i
Spbakkks, ibcir le<'cral Posts under the Govcinmen
and other vaJuable, Supplctncntal Pieces.
VOL. Xil.
I O N D O K:
printed for RicnAao Chamdlkk, and fold «t the Stif with
3tmfii-$0r, and u Ytrk and acerftreu^b. 17,^2,
.. . ■■"/: <"■■
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CONTENTS
OF TH E
f SEVENTH VOLUME.
3!&r Seventh Session of the Second Par*
liament of King GEORGE tbeSectmd.
L
11^ IN G^ speech to bath He uTn ■ Paget
' XMotioD coDCCrniag laA Ynrt Suppljr oTcr-rakd — j
Thaokt given to AdminJ Vernoa > . ■ ibii.
An Addrtfi for an Embargo on ProviCona - i^iJ.
I Ults, ^i', ciUfd for, ind lO.ooo Seamen votnl ■ 4
Wavi and Meutf, tsid a Paper, call'd. CsKJUUratiamt m
IM Embargt ■ — ^^ — -^— — -m ««■* J
Debate 00 the &id Paper — ■■ ■ _— _ , . 11*
Rffoluiion* iheicoo -^^■^— - ■ ■ -■ ay
^_Arin)' Votes
P
uir on employing the Hair-papOHken ■ ■
'Kojrii AfiicDi given to ihc Land Tax Bill ' ■ .
'Scvcial Deficicnciei made good -■' -■■ ■ ■ ■ ^
SerenI Petitioni received » - ■ — ..
Vote* on theSapp'y ™ ■
Mr Waller*} Moiion for two Letttn fcnt to Admiral
Haddock, and Dctuce thcrron -
BlU for ihc Encoaragement of SenmeA - ■
Debate thereon ■ — - . .. — ■ ■■ -^—
Ordertd 10 be printed
Pttiliont compainiag of the Woolen Manufiflure - ^
Mr. SaadjF'i Marion relating to the Suling of the French
and SptaHfa Fleet
S6
Other Pctil'ont relating to tJhe Wotrlcn Manufaanrc*— 63
Mr.
CONTENTS.
Mr. Smdyi'j Motion for removing Sir Robert Wilpolc,
and Detuie ihcrcon — ^— ■ — _ 6^
Diviftoa on the fxid Motioo — ..^^— m
Reading Hleflion decided — — — — —miM.
Debate on the quancring ofSoIdicrs ■ .^_ i2t
Debate on a Bill to cxplsiD an A£i relating to Infurarces i So
The Bill itfelf ■ 198
Farther Debate on tbe Seaman's Bill -- ■ — . xoo
Petition to limit Seamen's Wigcs .^^^ — %jS
Farther Debate on [he Seamen's Bill ■ . tjfi
Abftraft of the Bill for opening .1 Trade with Perfia thro'
Ruflia -— ^— ^-^ 262
Farther Debate on the Seamao's BUI ■^_ jfrj
lAndon pcinJkn agaioit the laid BjI), and Sir John Bar-
nard's Speech At the prefrnting thereof _ 286
GloucclUr Petition ag^inflihctaid Bill, and M
Sprech at the ptelcnting thereof
Debite on the laid Petition
Royal AfTcr: given tofcveral A&s . . |
farther Debate on the Seamen's Bill . t
Royal A^Teni givco to fcveni AAs, and King's Speech
AddrelV lo reiorn . — —
Sir Robert Waipole'i Motion for 200,000 1. to the '
of Hungary, and Debate thereon
Voui on ihe Supply
Royal AITent given to reveral A&i. and Kmg'i Sperr
A .State ol the National Debt for three Years ^^
Debate OD (be Corn BiU — ■ ■ ■ ^^
AblUafl of the faid Bi.l
Ijotd-Tyrconnel'i Speech for better paving, (^
M*€M of WelltDinller, and the Debate tbeteoo
Anoiher Account of thv Debate on the Soldteri
ten
)
- aStt
fr. Baihurft'a^
000 1. to the <^
I SPEECHES
AND
E B A T E S
Houfe of Commons.
DURING
e Seventh Seflion of the Eighth
Parliament ot Great Britain,
November i8, 174O.
IS Majefly came to the Houfe ofPeersin tbc Annoii, C«)
ufual Sntr, and opcnrd the SeiCoa with a H- 174'^-
moii gncioui Speech from the Throne, ac- U/^'^'S-/
3aainiing his Parliament, Thai Arong S(|oa- -^^Z™ ,
roos were got ready, and ordered to &'Isu«i;Il*'
got
upon Important Services, both in the Well-
Indiei and Europe, with as much Expedition as the Nacuic
of [hofe Services, attd the Manning of ihe Ships would ad-
mit : That a vtiy corfiderable Body of Land-Forces tvas
embarked, whiah is to be juincd by » g<'eat Kumber of his
Sdbje^i railed in America. And all Thingi nrccifary for
Iranfpordng the Troops from hence, and carrying on the
dcfiKned Ejcpedition, mctc 3. long timt in Readineri, ard
S))ceLh.
dcligi
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L. VII
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4,€eo waited only for an Opportunity to purTue the imcnJed
Voyige. 'I hat the [cvcral Incidents, which hnve h.-ip>
pencd in the mean time, have had no Effcft upon bim, but
10 CDnfirn) him in his Rel'o^utioos, and to dctermiite him
to addStieoglh to bis Armamenis, Ac. That the Court of
Spain baring already felt (oinc Effcils of oor Hercntmcnt,
began to be icnfible, that they fliould be ro longer able,
alone, to defend thentfeWei againlt the EHbrls of tlie Brililb
Nation. And, if any other Power, ngreeable to foine late
extntordinary Proceeding*, ftionid intcrpofc, and aitcmpt
10 prcfcrtbe or limit the Operations ofW,ir againll his
decUred Enemies, the Honour and Interell of im Crown
ami KiDgdoms muft ci!l upon us to lofc no Time, in pm*
ling curfelvei into (uch a Condition, as may enable us to
repel any Inl'uiu, nod to frullrstc any J>lign5 formed
againll ta, &c, J 'hat the IJcatli of the htc Emperor opens
anew Scene in the Aff.iirs of Europe. And that it was im-
polEblc to dctctTnine what Turn the Policy. Inicrctl, or
Ambition of the feveral Courts may lead them to take in
Ihii critical ConjunQure. I'hat it Otall be iiii Care to ob-
ferve their Moiioo», and to adt.ere to the I*.ngagemcnti be
U under, to maintain the Balance of Power, and the Liber-
ties of Europe, &c. That he had ordcr^ Kflimates for
the Service of the enfuing Year to be prepared, and laid
befotc them. That iome Augmenations will be ncccllary,
not only for carrying on the preiijnt War with Vigour, but
alfo to pu: ourieirei in a Condition of being prepared for
fuch Events, as may arlte in this uncenain Siiate of Europe,
ttc. Thar the iicarcity of Com, which ha* happened
many. Countries, had induced fcveral Powers to make rj
tracrdinary Provifions, to obviate ilie ill Kffc^l^ of that Mir'
fonuo«: That though in many Parts of this Kingdom, the
"arvcil has proved more fayourable. yet common Prudence
j^C^IS upun Us to provide agaidll the Approach oi luch a
Caiamiiy. lie therefore eamellly recommended il to them,
to confijer cf fome good Law, to prevent this gfowitig
"ifchief. He aifurecum mended tolheiri.a Bill for tbfRiore
^•eedy Mannmg the i-lcct in time of War, &c.
Whereupon tRc Comntooi tefolvcd. I'hat an humble
^^ddref^ be ptetented to hit Majeily, to congratulate hiqi on
his fale Return to thefe liis regal DamioioD.". &.x. And lO
affu.-e hi< Mijedy, that tht» Houfe wiU lland by an^ t'upport
him, BgiinA. all Atiempu made in Violation of the Faith of
TreatJei. &c. And a Coramittee was appoioted to draw op
•■ Addreb ogrecable thereto, &c.
Jiw») moved, humbly loaddrefs bii Majefiy, That be
would
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would be pleafed to order an Account lo be Uid Wore
(hero, in wKat Manner the Suiat granted latl SeiDoo for the
Service of (he prcfcnc Year haii been diipoicd of. whidi
afiei' l>cbaw paJfcd in the Negative! A>cs i$7. Now
The igtlt. Refolvrd. tint tlm HonCe will teceive no Pe^
tiiioo for private Bill* after the aili fJay of Jamtttj- neit.
Ordrrcd, Tbu (he iJoule be Called over on ibe fourth of
Decetnbe/.
The aoth. The Houfc went id a Body to addre^ hit
Majeliy.
Mr. Si^tker reported hit Ma'fcdy'i Aofwer to their Ad.
drcfsof Vclfcrdpy.
Read a fiili Tiine, a Bill Co probibic for a. limiied Tima
the Exportation of Corn, and otbci Pravifions out ofGreic
Biiuin, I.-elandt and hit Mijcdy's Plantationiia America
A Motiun waa mndc, and the QueAion pat, that the fold
Bill be printed, which paflol m the Ncgntivc.
The »4. Received tlic Report of laQ Friday's Refblution.
And refolvrd, Nemifif ffitrauHfeBtt, that a Supply be graaird
to his MijcUy.
Ordered ao Elliouue of the Ordinary of the Nnvy GiukU,
G^iri'Ooi. L^nd Porcea, Sec. to be Uid beKire them.
Ordered, That the Bill ta prohibit the tUponaiioo of
CtKo. Sec. be rcid a fccond Time ut morrow t on a Divi-
fion, Aye»84, Noci $8.
Oidcred an Account how the Monies granted laftSeffion
have been difpofcd of, to be laid before them.
The i;th. llelblvcd, Ntmiat rvfrajiame. Thu the
ThaDki o^ihis Haufe be given to V'lce-Adinirai VcinoiH
for the Scriricei he ha» done to hit King and Councry ia
the Welt IndiCi.
KcfoIvcJ, Srmiiie ttatudntiiiw, Tb^t bii MajeH^ be -id^
drclli:d lo order an hmlargo to be Ibrcbuich hid upon all
Ships Uderi uith Curn, Grain, Surch, Rice, Ilcef, Forte,
and alb cr l'roViliuD$, lo be fx ported to foreign furts.
lUftd n fccond Time the bill to prohibit the Exporutioa
of Corn. ti-i.. '\jKi after DcbAtc commitud u tiaj iliia ]>&|
fo'en-night. r
Reaivcd a Petitiaa or Rickaid Parttidgc, Ajtnt fo:
Penfylv^iniA, and »Uo Ageot for Ncw-Jcney. ag.init \\A
Corn Billj which wai referred lo the laid Cotnm
B 2
■ Tiw }Atti»M nvai thtm rtjtfitd a$ trrfgu/ar i Aut efit
vMrJt a» Adi'fp «f tbt/am Naturt «m/ frf/enttd U tit Mai
C«0 The z6\h. Kecelved a Petition of tte Merehanti of Lou-
^ doo, ag&inlt the Bill for prohibiting the Exforutioa of.
r
Corn, &c. referred toibc Committeer J
Ordered, Tlut tbe proper Officer do l»y before ihr»™
Houfe a Litt of the Navy, m it ttood on the z9th of Stp-
umber, i7;9- With an Account of how many h&ve bcca^
loR, decayed or rebuilt, and what remain. fl
Alfo a Lift of the Navjr as ic Hood on the iSth loftanc.
AUoan Account of what Ships have been employed from
June 1 11, 1 739, 10 November 1 i\, 1 740. at Cruifert or Con-
voy!, with ifacir Continuance thereon, and the Succets ihey
have met with, dillinguilbing each Ship uken or nukeo
from the Enemy.
Kefolvcd to addreft his Majefly for Copies of all Appli-
cations which have been made to the Admirjity. Sec. for
Cruii'crs to be appointed lor PrcHe^ion of our Tiade. ^B
Kefulvcd to addicfi his Majclly for an Acctnint of all^
Ordirrs ^iven fmce February ill, 1737. re^aiinp to the fie*
ling out. and l^iiing of any of his Majefly'j Squadron.**
Hitlithe Datescf rucbOrden, &c. J
Ordered, An AcLOUn; vf all Orders given fur raifing andv
embarking L'<tul-Fotccs and Marines for [he Loid Caih*
taii'i. Expedition to America, Sx. to be laid before them.
Rcfotvcd, Tfaathia Majelty be addreflid for Copies of all
LiCitciJ rehiin^ loa Supply of Shipi, Men, Store;, Ammu-
nition, *c. wiuien to, or received from Vice Admiral Ver-
non, by cither of the Sccretartei of Scttc, Ott Con milCon-
crs of the Admiraliy, or the Navy. As atfo for in Ac-
coant of wh^it Stores, Ammuauton , Sk. were contradled (b.
and ient to the Ijiid Admiral at J.titiak«.
Rclolved, I hat his MajeDy be addieBcd for Copies
all Leiteri that have liecn wiitten,or ReprcTeaiations madi
to the Commi^ODcri of the Admiralty, relating lu Storcj,
f rovitiofls. Sic. for the L'fe of the FJcei lately under the
Command of Sir John Norrii.
Ordered, That Copies of the monthly Retarns of Sea-
men, with the Number of the S ck, whui died, or deretled,
aod what cured fincc tbe lotfaof July, 1736. be laid before
Ebrm. ^
Ordered, An Account to be laid before them, of what V
Stores, Ammunition, ProviCDn;, &r. were Tent with, or
Jiave been tent to Rear-Admiral Haddock, And alfo Co*
piei of tU Ixiten^ as rebte to a Supply of Sbipr, Men,
Srores, Sec. wiiiun to, or received from Rcar-Admixal Had- ,
dock. te. f
TiM i;ti>. Rtf^lved, That hit Majefly be sddrciTed for'
CopJci
^
iC-
I
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Copies or an Piperi relatiog u» the opcoing of & Tn<!e Anno 14, Cco*
thfo' RuflU to Pcffia, Set. ^ ii-Iilf'
Rtceivcd the RctHjrc of Vefterday's Rcfolution on the *^-^^\^y^
Jupply. vh. Rclolved, That 40,000 Men be employed for ^^^S*"**"
"cj.Servicc (or 1741. Ar.d ihat 4I. pcf Man per Month
cillowcc] for Ruincaiaing them, locluding ilic Ordnance
If Sei-Scfvice. Aqu agreed to the (arae.
The z8ih. In a grind Ctiimnittee oa Way» and \fean«, ^"^jL***
:fol«ed, That 4s. m the Foufid be granted to h'n Majirfiy, ^-'^'^Tax.
ipoD Landi, Tenctsenu, Hcrcdiiamcnu, Pcnjionf. 0&:ei»
Ecifonal Ellatci in Englnndj Wales, and iheToua of
lerwick upon Tweed, for the Service of the Vear 1741.
Dfi. I . Agreed w ihe Report of the above RelottiUoo j
and ordered in a Bill accordingly.
]^m Rrceived (cveral Pcuiion& from the Agrnis of Amcrin^
^Hnd South-Carolina. againH the Corn-BiU.
^V^ Read a Eill time the Land Tax Bill: aTier which Mr.
^^phoniproo compbioed of a printed P^per te had icceired
^^C the Door, which wai icai at fiiWoWt :
^
\\ \\ to be confidered, whether the InlcrrA of Con-
'jflora for Piuviflons for the Public, w» not ibc Motive
hich firll Itartcd the Notion of an Embargo upon ViAaat,
od whether the fame Incrrell be not now a grand, tha* it-
crciMotire of i» Continuance •. Theic C-inir^dors, hcmg
vrt\ tetifibie, that the Dcwatvd Abroad, for Irifh and £n>
ghfh Beef, trult |;reat'y enhance the Price, and that thrn
wa» no way for cbciii to keep it down, hut by cnde.'Lvcitjriii^
10 confine thcfe Commoditict 10 iheir own Market. h.id Ad-
drei* 10 effirtl their End in Part, by obtaining the limbargo
io Ireland. whKh they have good Keafon co laOoar to have
nctnucd iheie, .ind firiher extended: For thus they will
time aUotutc MasLcij over a gicat Pan of the Land;
holders
• Tf / Hw^ mm tavt a vtry nriagj and ft rfrtfing Kuna ■
Irrf-r y /6ii Trar^uaian^ ly wjtting tin fn^r Oficerj to /i*v
tf/itt t^em thr Contrail) m*it in tkt Ttan 1739 aiut I74O
"} ibt yiSua/lini^ OJScif, Kt^tilffr lutth tht Pa^tts ami ApfU-
ttifiii 'whuff ttlate (e tbh ji^*ir^ »t f^r at U ftnurm tit
i& Frvxnjhm, tUl't^'crtd v mail tt tke ftii Cemmi^itut i
r VidmaUtng, the LirJj '/ tbt JJmnaiij. and ^me ttLsr
pj^'fi Widib, if f^irlj obia'iHtd, iviU tnahi* tit H*f/t t*
td^i, iihttlrr a Car* and TtnJtrnrfi 19 /^« Caatrmefarj ha^t
_«/ flainlj if.1t tht f.U and t'nt C»Mf( ('V.f-n!f',tr tvtaUt
Trfttntti an ibrvuin tut } »/ all tbf [''■>*'* ' KVitb
tifptH la Trade, alriadt tmttiavjlf txUKSti "j J, etii
imv fr^tHfi fr tht <*i«/f NatrM.
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Anno Ui Ceo holderi la England, as they have been for Tome time o
II. i7*0' above half the l^nciholdcrs of IrcUnJ, who are oblig
^^Y^W^ to fell at the Price they pJcafe lo give; the exported Pro-
duce of that Counirj', in the C'llle-Tiade, being ocAr
6oo,oool. per Aanuia, cjccluflve of any Commodity derived
from Shwp, and the whole Value of the Export of that
Kingdotn, not exceeding i.ooo.ooo). which are Fafts ex-
tremely ceruin, and taken fiuiii the Books of the Cuftoms
there upon a parliaratntary Irfpcition.
U ii to be conMcred, whether any great Men were in-
duced to favouc this Scheme from any private Advant-^get
which they were (o receive from the Cuntnidors. in Coiw
fidcraiion j}f i(i and it ough: to be uoderflotxl, ihiit this
the faireli Opportunity for the gteateit Money- Jobb, tb.
may ever oiler again lonny Man in Power.
It ought to befuiher coflfidered, when [he Bill offered to
Parliament for regulating chif Affair (hall be examined,
whether the Hopes of cxttaordinary and partial Powers w
be granted to the Crown by it, might not be a principal
Keafon for infinuating the NeceSicy uf this Meiifutc. efpe
cially at thli ConjuoAure, when anew PartiamcBtu to
fbortly called.
It Ihould be obferred, what IndallFy was afed in the pu
lie Pipers, to prepare and prejudice the Mindt of the Peopl*
in bvour of an Embargo, paiticutaiiy with relpciH to iii«
Iriih Beef: And whether thi* doe» Dot Teem tn have pro.
Ceeded rather from the Spirit <i{ private I nterct, than a Zeal
4br the public Good, erpccially as the tatter End was ill
snfwered, by alarming our Enemieswith the Apprcbcniioa
of an approaching P/ohibiuon, aod could tend only m
kaQen them in maUtog (heir Provifion before they w
prcTcnted .
it is to be cc»nftdcred, whitcan be the Reafoni or V'i'
of a certain Gentleman in picfDng to do that by Afl
Parliament, which bf the known Confliiuiioit tif the Kin
dom may be done, and has been done by an aUowcd Prcn
gailve.
Jt is lobe confidercd, why Ireland it to be mentioned
the Bill . linccrhc Prerogative has already had in thatCoui
try a full EfteA Without a Bill: and whether the dving ill
by 3D Englilh Liiv, being unocceflary, will not create D
contents there, whkb bad betcci be avotdcJ, cfpecially |
:hu Coojycflure.
ft ii to be coni-dercd, why Ireland, which h&s the la
fi!,7^ia Citarta and Common Law with t'nzjaQd, fhould
lybjected co to ^nbargg by Pwo^ative, if that Embar
Wi
pal
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m
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«« ilkgJ : tnd if It w«s not illfgal. why England w»i not Aniw 1 4, G».
Hfabjvatd to it It the lame time. il 174U
^V It is to be c'.nfiJered. why iliat Embirgo opoe hehnA V-/'V*V^
^Blvas Isid opnn the whole Trade, to the immeofe Dimaee of
Huiat Country, notwithltzniJing the KchxntEOncr I'l in lame
^EnfhnCFs ; And whether the doing it ici that way, did not
^ftvidently t^nd to create (ervile Appliuifons, great tod cf
^Time and Opportunities, grrat Dej-cndcnct upon Men in
Power, and pofiibly great Cornipnon. And whether i( is
Di an Abfurdity to fuppofe the Prerogitive lulficient to
(trcifc a general iLmbargo tipun the whole Tnde, and
mfufiiciccn 10 do i: upon a few Branchej only.
It u to ti« cooCdcrcd, that ihf Embargo in IretancI wa^ laid
^Bkl a ConjunClure above all otlten fatal ; the Rents of thar
^Kloontry being chicA^ mide darirg the Shogliter-Searoaf
^Brhich u in (be Monthi of OAobcr, Navembcr, and Oe>
^^mber.
It il to beconfidered, why the Embargo wss laid ifter ihc
French and Spinifti Fleeii were bilcd ; actd if occeflary ai
all, why not brfiire f
Ikiiia be coofideml, whether it can be fappoled that the
brovideat AdniiniflrjtioB of J'nnce and Spam would have
hazirded llir Siucefi of fu grent a DeCgn. and the Lofi of
K) great nn Arnufflcnt, to an F.rent which they Imew id be
lb Tduch m our Power, at the Embargo on Jnfh Betf,
y/UcfhfT therefore it Couid be reafooably fuppofeil, thatthra
HhfrofuTC, which has brcn talked op as fo ii»pofUBI« conld
bave taken any iiror.g Effeft.
It it to ^-e confidenKl, whether any Nfjn cuti with any
Appearance of Rcaroo (uggtd, that ihii Embargo could
~»i»e hsd any betrer F-ffc^. than to cccifion lomc Diftrtft
kmoog the Krct)ch and Sp^nfh Forcei, to oblige them to bo
jntentrd with a more iptic and Icfi agrM.iLie I>ipr, cr 10 bff
It fomc greatr Kircrrr m procure Provilton; vn^i whether
loy Mxncan be lo lobclicTe. that we OuM rendef
\%licm unlit for Atili.- rvite by tht; means.
It iitobe cortUereti, wlieihrr if they arc Ihll fit for Ac-
lion and Service, the Degree cf Oillret wc flnll create to
inn ^vill be ol any Advantage to juttily fo extmordmary a
Meafore ; and whrthcr, when >i 15 righily underflood by ihtf
~iblic,th<y nn think it(iifiicici>itobabrce(hee.Y!nvagaAk
|la>fi u will occaiion to frclonO aikl to uur i>Hn Colontes. '
It tt to be conMcred whftt tbii Lofi win be, whether ic
I'UI notocctfioQ a total Sngnaiion ot Trade in (bme of on^
Coloniei: Whether ProvjGona exponrd from lrL-I.ind ire
not aDoually worth 6oo,oool. and whriher tt be poffible
tliti toy KcaKdy «d be applied to tho DitltcG of tint
Nktien,
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Apno 14, Geo Nation, occaConed by this Embargo, when half die Beef
II 1740- ihcy export i$ of fo l^d a kind, ihac no People can confume
^/"V^N^ it bai the French i and conleqaentiy that if England were
ever fo willing to relieve IrcUnd, fiiecaiiDOC bu/ that Pro-
Jtiito be conftdeted, how uneqaalljr this Blow mud fatt,
and (hftl thii Lofs will lie in a manner wholly upon one
fourth Put of IrcUnd, above three Fourths of the exported
Beef. Sec. anfiogftom theProvincc of Munfter only.
It is to be confidercd, what a deplorable Ruin mud at-
tend the fourth Pirt of any Country, by a certain annual
Lofa of at lead 300,000!. when the Rents of that whole
Country amoun to but i,;'00,oool.
It is to be confidercd. wbofc Lofs this in the End will be ;
ird whether it will not be the Loft of Ergland : Since it it
detnonllr&ble that F.rgbnd gets all the Balance of the TnuJe
of Ireland, as appears from hence, th»t the current Speciei
of Irebnd ii cetutnly not augmented for twenty Vean
pall, tho* the Bjilanre of Trade is Icnown to be more thao
400,0001. per Annum in her fevour.
It it to be confidered. whether the Growth of Wool, and
the Wooilen-Marufiifturci of Ireland, if they arc fo preju-
dictpl to the Woollcn-Ttscie of England, as fome wooJd
popularly (uggefl. will not be enlarged to the Prejudice of
EiigtantI, by driving the Irifh out of a Trade, which now
employt fo greata Portion of their Lind.
It ii to be confidcred, t^hat was the Pra^ice of thi>
Nation in all oitr former War», and upon wh^it Motives it
was, that in tiic Reign of King Charles II. in 16^7, when
Eoglaod wai at War with Holland, France i^d Deninark.
at a Period when the Prejudices againll Treland firll bad
Rife, and were noK violent ; it was refolved by the Coun-
cil of F.rgUnd, that the Irifh fliould export their Beef and
Proviftonn to the Enemy, in Purlaince of which Refolutioa
a Proclamation from the Lord Lieutenant of that Kingdom
was then iffut^ to that Purpole.
It ii to be confidercd likcwifc. upon what Motives, in tlie
War* of King William and Queen Anne with France, ihe
fame Irdutgence was (hewn to Irelitod, and their Exporta-
tion privately encouraged by the Government of England,
aotwithliandiflgany general Embargoes laid by AQ, of Par-
Uimeni.
It is to be confidcred, whether the Dutch, the wifeH Na-
tion in the World with rcfpe^ to Commerce, ever thought
it advireable to refute to fupply their Eoeniin with any
Ccmmodity whatever.
ft
i
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It Istobe coBfitlcrcd, ngw the Scarcity of Graft «ncj Hay Anno 14, Geo.
h locxccfHrr.wh'it can be done with our CAttle if they are '[^740
not CJtpoired; and whether it he better that ihcy flioa.'d (.>^V~SJ
pcrUh ai Home, than be loM to our Kn<miei. <«
It 11 10 be coRftdctcd, wliclher Money be noi the Sinew of
War I and whether to deny ouriVives the Profit of a very
[ftdnnugcout Trade be a nalural way to prove fucceriAit
flgiJaJl our Encirie*.
It h to be confidered, whether ooe of the Cabmilies of
War ii not the Intcrrupiion of our Cooinncrce.
Whether to render this greater thJo it mall ctceflarily
' br, can dererve the Kncomiums which a certain Peifoa and
tiis AdbcrcDU bellow upott this Mcsrurr.
Whether one of the niolt valuable Circumflancct of Ad-
tniral \'crnon') glorious Demolition of Porio Bcllo had not
SB thought, by all koowirg Men, to be the Opening of
that Coall to ourMerchanti, and the Meam thereby given
(apply ibc SpaDiAi'America. with Comtnoditiet ol this-
f-Coontry,
Whether there is any Maxim fofolW, and fo incapible of
bftin^ contravened with rcfpcA to Trade, ai thai it uught
ncvrr lo be reftraired .
Whether the eternal Confeauenceof Reftriflioii in Com-
merce hai not been tbe Divemon of it lota a new Channel,
Whether ilie Ketlriinc upon the Pjrparration of lron»
laid by Sweden fotne Years ago, has been etrcr recovered bjr
1 Sweden, and whether Spim wai not an immeofi: Gainer by
it.
Whether the Refiraint upon the Inlli Trade in Cattle,
Imporrd by England, did not throw tbc Beef Trade into
IreUn-J, and give it 10 that very Countiy, whtch wai impru-
dently defigned to beexcloded from it
Whether the Prohibition of the I'ifti to cirry on the
Woollen Manufjfl;iic,did not throw tiie Woollen Trade ai
^KvrcU vut of their Haods ai oarf, arid cftablifl) the lame in
^Vv'I Parti of Europe.
Whether any Folly be more exploded, if fitat and gene-
^tal Experience can explode a Folly, tlnn the Suppofilion,
^Rbat my Nation can excltnie the rett of the World from any
^VltraBch of Commerce.
Whether it can be fuppofcJ that Providence Ha* been fo
^^evere apart any Ccontry. b> to put it in tbe Power of another
^■•o ftarve ber Inhabitvtnts.
^B It ii Rr be confidered, whether it ii pofflite 10 conceive,
^H)tAt any Naiioo abouitJing in Weahh.can fuil tobefupplirJ
^^ith Ncttflkriet for Moi»«y.
Vi>i. ML C 1:
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jnnoij.Gco. It is to be confidered, wbciber Denm&rk, Jutland, Hol-
li. 1740. Aein, and other Places in (he Baltic, which now export
C/''V>^ great Quantities of Live Cattle, may not lalt their Beef, and
fuppty France and Spain with it; and whether they wiU'noc
keep ihat'Crsde when they have once experieaced the Ad-
vantage of it.
It IS to be confidered, whether Hungary, Planden, And
Fiaticc icfeif, may not upon Encouragemenc fupply a Part.
it is 10 be confiiiered, whether the Foreflt of France and
Germany may not fupply great Quantities of Pork 1 aod
whether that Provifion will -not anfwer the End of Beef.
It is to be coofidtred, whether Hollind may not liipply
vad Qusncitrcs, particularly of Pork, fi-om Germaay, ky
means of the navigable Rivers which flow from tlKilce
ibro^ that Country.
It is to be conJidered, what ZfkA the Lucre of tbis
Branch of Trade may have apoa the Councila of cbofe
Niicions which may gain it from us: And whether France
may not acquire a dangerous Influence over Tome of oorbeft
Allies by that Evem.
It is to be confldcred, nay, it is to be known, ^hat tbere
is a Method of halting and curing Cattle in the very hott^
Latitudes, and under the Line idclf, tho' the Seo-et ii as
yet in few Hands ; and whether Neccflity and Money wUl
not open (hut Secret to France ^nd Spain.
It is to be conlidered, whether in all foch Cafes, many
Places for Supply and Means of it may not be found, whkrii
BOprefeni Forefightcan fuggcft.
Whether a very hard Seafoti, and a Dearth of Grain
Abroad, is not by eil thltking Men apprehended as a fatal
Incident to England, tho' fheu notherlelf a prefent Sufferer
by it, and mny be an immediaie Gainer by the ExporatioB
of greater Quantities of Corn ; fince the Alarm it gives to
foreign Nations, tends to put them upon Meaiures for en-
larging their Tillage, and ^nding Means to fupply them-
feli'cs at Home iijth Grain, which France has lately done,
by founding a Company, snd giving great Advantages and
Premiums for raifmg Kice in that Country.
Whether therei'orc it may be thought advifeable to urge
this Dillrcia in any kind ; and whether it is not adding an
incentive to iheir i^ndeavours in this way.
Whether from this juU Conlideiation, all Embargoes, or
other Difliculties upon F.xportation, are not in the nature of
the Thing JAJurious and abfurd.
\\ hether it i; bcnenth a Man of Senfe, upon better Confi.
' dcraiion, to rcjcfl Opinion?, however warmly he may have
cfpoufed
r II )
erptiufeSthein, before ilie Stale of the QueftioD bad been Anno 14, Geo.
tboroughly canvaffed. 'ij 14?'
Whether, therefore, there nty not hf great Hope, rhat
the A&. relating to the Embargo *ill never pafs.
And if it (bould pafi, i . That it rmy relate to Corn onTy ;
a Rcftraint upon which leems to be jufliiied fjr the prefent,
by no other Rrafon but the great Want of it at Home, which
our late ill Seafons threaten,
2. That it (hould not extend either to Ireland, or the
Plantations, who will be infillibly diftrelTeJ b^-yond 'Kxam-
pie, and almolt to otter Ruin by it.
3. That if it muft pafi, it ftiould be general as to every
diftinft Species, to avoid Partiality, and Jncreafe of Minilts.
rial Power.
4,. That it (hould be in the Pbwer of the Crown to relieve
it in any one Branch of Exportation, provided the Relief
or the Reftrainc be general as to the particular Branch ;
becaufe it may be necelTary to prevent the Exportation of
Corn, and at the iade time fatal to hinder that of other
Provtfions.
5. That Care be tak^n to aMow the Export of Corn to
Ireland, either from the Plumat^onn or £ng!aiid ; without
which Ireland, which does not grow Corn enough for her
Home Confiimption, and i« now in great Ditlrel's from the
Lofs of [V)ia(oes by the Frofl, may greatly (nfftr by Pamint 1
cfpecially if this Winter flioald be attended with more fevere
Weather.
Upon the whole, it is to be hoped that Men ia Power, It
they fhould be convinced, by thele Confideraiions, that they
hnvenotdeferved the Applaufewhich has been rafhiy given
to this Meafure, and that it is really de(tri:£tive and dange-
rous, will be generous enough to rcftgn their Pretenfions to
this Glory, rather than t.icriiice the Trade and fntereft of
thefe Dominions, by mainraining their firft Opinion.
Jf. S. It isaftually now known, that the French have con-
traAed already for an annual S-ippIy of 6000 Tons, or
60,000 Birrels of Beef (riim Jutland, at the Rate cf 200,
Weight per Barrel, which is within 20,000 Barrets of
the greateft Qaantity ever taken by them from Ireland
in Times of Peace. So that in all Probability an irreco-
verable Blow isah-eady given to that Branch of Trade j
and they have aduaUy contraAed with Holland for a far-
ther Quantity.
Certain Advices are received, that the French Fleets are
adually arrived in America ; which may ferve fufficiently
to evince, that Ibme Perfons have boalled too much of
their Sagacity in impofing the Embargo: The great, and
C 2 indeed
Annoi4,Gco. Inittd only pliufib'e Pretence for it, ht'tng lo prevent
11.1-40. ,h,ir N;.»igation ihithtr at thi& critical Conjuniime,
whtcb it wa& confidently affirmed it would cffed.
Tbi) wa» fureiold at a Time when the Prtjudicn, in hwaar
of »a Embargo, were too Arong to admit Credit to thac
Suggeftirn. ■ It is to be wifticd, thai tlic fiirthcr Prophecy
cootiincd in this Paper may not likcwiTe be aioft fuxUy
Bccompltftied.
Mr. ThompfoB.
Sir.
* The Crime cf exafprrating the People againll tleir
riia^ Governon, of tailiDg DircoQCent, and exciting Murmurs to
a Time uf general Danger, and of attempting lu rcprefcnc
Wife and falupry Mcafurc;, which tiave received the Ap*
probation of the whole LegiiUture. ai mean Artiitcet. coti-
itivcd only to i&ife the FoiiunM of fome Favourites of (he
Minillcr, and aggrandize tiie Officers of S(a:e by the Mllfr-
rics of the People. i» a Crime too euormoas to require or
admit any Ageravatioo Trom Rhecoiic, and ioodaogerou& ta
bopT f(!T anyExcule fVom Candour and Lenity.
■ 111 rtod or hear thia Paper is fufficicni for a Tull Con-
vi&iotiof in pEmiciousTcadcRcy, and cf the Malice of ic«
Authoi j a Charge not lixed upon parllcuUr £x|>rcfIioDa
capable of aooubtful Meaning, and wnich Heat and Inad-
vertency might ofutUy have produced, butfupportcd by the
general Dctign of the whole Paper, and the continued Te*
por of the Argument, which is evidently intended to Qiew
that an Aft of Govcrnn:cn(, whichcannot but appiaroecef-
fary and fcafonable in the prefeni Sutcof our Afnira, aq
Ad r*iificd by' the Concurrence of all the Pouers of the
Legi.1dtuTc, t5 Dotlung tut a Scheme of Avarice to grow
tich ly pppreHion.
* Nor ia this (randalous Libel written with more Confi.
denccand Infolence ll<an it is dirperfcd. Not conten;. Sir,
nith viinfyingcbc Frcceedingt of the State, ibc t\uthor has
iitduflrioufly pubiillirJ hi.* Calumny at our Dour; the Tune
has been when Oefamaiion (kulkcd in Scctet, and Caluiunict
agairtl (he Gov<rfir.c-t »v«re dtfpcrfcd by VVhifpctt or
privat«>Communi&.t]un i but this Writer adds Int'ulu to bts
Injuries, atul at oitce n'proachc! and defies us.
* J beg leave to move thcrclore, that the Houfe do cea-
furt this Paper as " a malicious and fcandaloos Libe), highly
and iojurioufly tcf^cAing upon a jull and wife AA of hit
X.'r.ji:lly's GovrriinicDi, and alfo upon the Proceedings of
puCA lecture: of ParliamiEit j u:d tcndirgto create Jea!oi;itei
-X^ . LI
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Mindiof ihe People. I allbmove, th« rhe Auth"orAnnoN,G»
'inajr be ordered totiCcod, to be cxaffliocd ic out B«r." Ir-yr^^
[This wai uniRimoolly n^eej to by the HDufc. The
)oor-keepcr wai called in. ind ijeing (hewn the Paper, v.-at
iflccd rrom whom he received it? Who ftofwered, ihat he
rlicTcd the Pcrfon, who detiirrred il lo bim, wnii then de-
lined in one of the Comtnittec Rooms; upon which hetvai
irdereJ to look for, and (etch him [9 the Bar. Mr. Sandyt
iking notice, that the Petfoa wai itready in Cuilodjr, Ijaid,
ut he fhould be glad to know by what Authority. It wa*
jt tcaronable topuoifli firti, and judgeafterwardi.
Upon which Sir William Yonge replied, • That he had
cauTrd him to be detained, in order to know the Pleafure of
\e Houfe i and that he ihoiighi it his Duty to feeurc fo
CDormoasao OITcDd^r fromclci^piDg *
Soon after the Doorkeeper brought the Man in, when be
dcclaTcd, upon Kxamination. bis Name, and bis PtofcBiOnf
^_whicb was that of x Scrivener, and owned, with great Open-
^^hefa, that he was ibc Auihor of the Paper. He was then
^Mflccd. who wa* the Printer, artd anfwerrd, thit he printed
^■it himrd/. Which be explained afrrrwardi, by fayiog. that
^'ftthehad carried it to ihc Primer':, he might be Uid. in the
general deception of the Term, »» applied to an Authoft
to be the Printer ; he then dtkovered the Piintcr, and was
iQced, wberewaithe ongiaal Xfaoufcripc, which be faid he
vbid delirayed. as he did any other ureirls Paper.
(t having been obferred by lome of the Members, chat
Il was printed in one of the Daily Pxpcrt, he was aflced,
rbo carried it thither ? And anfwercd, thai he carried it
ktmrdf. It Was then dem^nJed, what he g>ive for having
[Itinferied, ntid he anlwcred. that he giive nothing.
After many Quel\ioQS, XIr. H. Archer dclired ihai be
ight be a&ed, Whether 00 the Friday before he was rxit
jin the Gailery^ At which romc of the Mctnbcri eipreflod
aeir Dintpprobation, and the Man being ordered to with-
Iraw, the fo'lowisg Debate eafued upon the Ptoptielyof
'liQatflion.]
Simoel Saodyi. Efqi
Si..
• TTiof* who are entrufled by their Coontry with tLe£lii. S«njj^.
^Authority of making Laws, DOghi undouiUcdl^ tu abfeive ^-^11
fibeni with the utmoft Circutnipcilion. Ut\ ihcy.ftiould defeat
llhcjr awQ Endeavour)', aoJ invalid^iic by ihsit Example
their own Dccrcci.
• There
( H )
Anno i4.Cto. * There it no Put, Sir, or our Civil CotfikutioA mart
ii-iJ>Z facred, none 'bit hsi Ijcen more revered by ihoft that hava
y^y^rX-^ mmpifd upon other Forms of jiuiice. nnd wantoned ia
Oppreffon without Rellninc. th^D that Privilege by which
every Brtctm is exrtnpted from the N«;effiiy of accusing
himtelf, md by which he is enlitled lo refule an AoTwer to
any Queftion which nuy be afti. i, wi:h a View id draw
firooi him a CooTclTton of an < tiencc, wbich cooiot be
proftfd.
• Wheth«rcbisgreat PriiMcgp, Sir, iinoi viol8t«d-; ivho*
tfaer (ti: analicoablc Riv'.t]; of a ftes Sut>je6 i: not inffiogflc).
by ihc (>ieUioo pur tu ihe Peri'gn at our Bjt, the Houfe
Riut) decide. The funifhmeni to which t'tirujtrri ut J'ub-
jeQ by the Orders of thii Houfc, prcv«4 thar hu Prefenco
iQlheiloure i&cor.Ii<Jctcd xc a Cr:iiie, -jI Hlivh.a^we hire
BO Proof of it, a C'onfrflion ought not to be cxiorrcU by an
atirui sod infidions Qiielbon. of wkich hv may col diicover
thelotoDlion. orthc Corf'queiicc. Such Trcitmeni, Sir, ia
rather to be cxptdfd by Si.tires in the (o^uilitiua of -^p^B.
than I Briton at the Bar of thi* Houfr; a Huulc iDili:utcd
to pceferve Liberty, and to rcilrain loju&iiie aod Upprc^ua.
Mr. Campbell.
Sir.
[Vr. Canpbcll. ' | casno: bnr concur with the Opinion of tho Hoaours-
ble Genclemao, that io requiring an Anfwcr tottii* Question
wc (hell cxpofe a MsB to a Puniftinient agiintt whom wo
have (M EvhteiMX but what is extorted from himleif i and
CCoft<)ucntly no Koowtnlge of hii Crime upon which m-c can
praouJ lo taAid Cenfures or Pcoaldc;;, w.thouc clie itiini*
frft Infiattion oiour Coaftiiution.
' It cannot be imagitred. Sir. ihnt he iotendi to (0Pfe(« hitn-
felf guilty ol a Ciime of which no Proof hai been brought,
or that he wiil vai'inrftrily fubjeci himfelf to Punilhnicnts.
It laufl therefore follow, that he is ioirapped in liii txami-
n^itioti by an Artifice, which, 1 hope. wiU oevcr fird anjr
Cootttenance in thii Kou£l'
Mr. Winoiogtoo.
Si a,
>tr Win- ■ It is kq: impofiible that the Hoooaratle Gcrt>c)iCTi
pinittm. having not lately look'd imo the Orders of the Houre, may
mitUkc ihe Tendency of the Qucflton, 1 therefore mo«,
that the Otdtr may be read.'
[ 1h^Qti-'f bfrn^ rtaJ ty the Cftri, hi fttat4*i'\
\K
( «5)
< U ii evident, Sir, tliat b/ ibe OnlcT now rud. theSi;r Armoi^.OM,
MAW at Ami*, atTcndinp '■■n ihis Home, msy uk^ into Cuf- ^* '74"*
Jy all Strjngcr* thi^Di.U be found in the Houfcor (i«llc- ^yV"^J
white wcKteafleniblcil ; «l>d that thii Oi^er ii not alw-ivi
It in Pr.i^icr. mult be oKrituicH ra the Lnityof thcHoinc.
tut (ku thit OhkroitrnditC" paft Offirnces, au'l (jbiefls •oy
m to Impfifonroeui Tor laving been prefcnt in (omcryrurtf
IV, canntx be conceived. Fof bow f^r mny fucti k Rctro*
Ke cxundti ? Or at what Time, iftxr luvtiig intmdod
Ko the Houfr. cati UTiy Kt«r> preramc to conddcr bimfolf »
rxempi itom ilir Danger of tmprifonmeni ?
Our Order. Sir. only decreei prefcnl PuoiflimeBt for
ncfrni OffffBCc*. j«d diereforc. the Queifion nftcd by the
ionourable Gcin:cmao m»y be titfilted on without Scruple.
Ind anfwercd »v;thoiK Har-ird. Let then the IJoDOunble
icDilemcn refcive iheir Uudsble Zeal for our Contlimtion
[till it OiiU be inviJcc by tnorc imporunt OccaGoat.'
SiAiuel Sinclyi, Efqi
Si..
' Whjt Viflory the t-fonotinibTe Gentleman imiigines g^^ SiOilfi
limfcU u> have gftincd, or wkeoee proceed* all his Wtwon- Ei<jt
rC ■ r rsoitftiioit, I am notabkio (Jiicnver. Tiie Qudlton
Id to the iDtsrpretAiicia ofnnc of our own Or^en,
:- - . A-rclorc Ducofthe high«J( Iinponincei tior can hi*
iuCficfiln fouivlalA Ocbjic eotiile Jiim to great Appliufc
rum other;, or produee in x PerltM of hi» Abtlitiet, *ny
inctnninon Ssti*fiit:tioD lo himfelf.
Que whnie wf may be the Pieafare of iht Viflory, it mufl
|C lead be gkioeii bcfl-te ic cin Ik ctlebratrd t ttnd it 15 br no
iluns evident that he has yet any Keifon tu nn'ure himfelf
if Con(]uelt.
His Interpretation. Sir, of the Order, which he hai Co
inhdcnlly hiii Itcfure the Hou'ir, tcrm» to mc to have no
[^oaodation in ReJfon or JuOicc : for if it be an Offence
Igtififl the nonfr to(-e frfferr .ti mir Vcnfuhitionr.and that
J&ncc be ju;i Man ht exempt
la jii)( L'c'.. Orwhatmnket
|lhe DiOvicncc between lhj& Crime and any oihcr. that this
iloncBuft be iinmcdiatr!)' pumfhevi, or unmcdiaFely nblice-
asd tbit a tuiky I'll^ln is C(^uiv.ilcnc to Innocrircct
It ij farety. Sir, more rational to brlin'e. i)iai the l]cu&
ay punift any Bn;)cb oi its Orders at a dilianr Time 1 thst
(foar Ccnfarc ftoncec'udrd, h may be ?ftfr>mnis enforced 1
ind, therc:(Dre, ihMi the QueRion pot to the Prrfon at the
~ tr ougbi not tQ bi alLcd, btcaulc it cannot f&lciy b« an-
fiveretl.'
Winian
Wil'. Pulw-
Sir Wmi«m
Sr Robert
«
( 16)
Willum rutteney. Efq;
Si It,
* I cannot but conceive that our OrdCT may extend lu
Inflacnce bcrond tlie pretent Moitient. aixJ tba( Intru6ooi
ntB)' be pmu(hed by the Houreoo another Day than thil OP
which tiiey were commiiinl.
• I am (b hr. Sir. frcm being of Opinion, thai to make
ihc Execution of this Order valid, the Houfemofl fit without
Jniermptioii fiom [he Ttmr of the OSence to thai of the
PoniQiinent . that if ihe Gentlemen in the Gallery v/efe to
he taken into Cullody. 1 (hoaM advifc cbe Serjeant to WMt ti) I
the Houfe (hould braak up, and fcize (hem as they fliould
come oct.'
Sr. William Yonge.
St a.
* If any fuch Punifliment were now intended, I Aioold —
vife the Gentlemen in the Gallcrj- to rcitrr, indceiJ. but not
10 hide tnemiclvn like Felons or Men profcnbed by Pro-
clamation! for ai the Power of fcizirg any Man in the
l^oufc is I'ufficirnt to I'ccurc us from Intrufiun. there is no
Reat^on to extend it farther ; and Peraliics arc not without
Reafon to be inHi^lcft, nnther h;i» (he floule rver coveted
the Power of Op piclCng i and what file is unneceOary Pa-
sifhtDCnt i
' If, therefore, an Intruder 1* not feized in the A&. of la-
trufion, he cinnot leg^ally be imprironcd tor tc, And any of
the 3:rangeri who now hear this Debate, may retire to a
very fmail DiUance from the HouTe, and fet the Serjeant of
Arms at Defiance.*
Sir Robert Wftlpole.
S I a,
• Whether the Quefilon be proper or not, it feemi very
unneccflaiy to dcbtte 1 becaufe, however it be anrwexcd, it
cannot be of great Imponance; the Mnn h>i already
confclTcd hlmfctf the Author of the Libel, and may, there-
fore, be puoifhed without f.ither Examination.
' That he is the real Author, Sir, I am not indeed con-
vinced by hit Affertton. with whatever Confidence it vu
made; for fo tar as hi» Appcitancc enables me to judge of
hii Education and Sphere of L*ki it iinot probable that he
fhoutd be much verfed in political Enquttie*, or that he
fhould crgigc in the DtfcuQion of QucHioos like this.
' I'bcif appeari, .^Jr, in the Taper befjtc us. a more
txKi^iive Knowledge of fad), & more accurate Attention to
Cumiucrce,
»
^
(•7)
CommfrM.moTeinfol R<sfooing.ind« raor? elevated Stilr, Annoi^.Gi
tbui uii rcahnahV u> c»pc<t from Ihit M»fi, whoni. with- **■ ''^T*-
outpicimdiag to ciixumicnbc tiie Limtis «f hh Ltmory,
or tft« Compfiof his Kn<nvloiigc. I am, fcr my Part, in-
clio'd to look upOQ ti »Q Agent o tome other PerfoD of
bJgher SciUon, unJ gmicr Accompliftunciiu.
' Itit natur.cfiininan. Sir, furGeollrmen toexerciie tbeir
j^biliiiei and empUty their Pcm upon political Qtulltoni, ttnd
When ihcy Iuyc pr\rJuce<l any Thing, whtch thni C'omplai-
fince fi>r ihemfelvei equally- hindcrt them from awning 2cd
fuppixlHng, I hey arc knan'niupro«.utc fomc Per Ton of interior
ftjinic to lake upin hira m ptiblic the Character of the 4u-
■thor, and toIUnd the Danger uf the Piufo^cution, coflt<niins
ibemrelvei with the Appltufe at>d A^m'uMioo oilhth choien
i^nends. whom they trull wttti the inipcnaoi Secret, and
%vith wb»m tbey In awl laugh at the Coftje^tutcs i>f toe Public
«ai) tlte Ignorance offhc Miniliry.
' 'I'hit, Sir, ii a frct]ucnt Pii^icr, not odIj with thofe
who have tto other Employment, hut at I hive ruBki^ni
Reafoni tobelte^'e, uoorg fomcOcxdemcn, whii h;ivc Seats
IB tbii Houlc, Gentlemen whole A^iluici and Knowledge
qualify ihem toCerve the Public in Cbiisflen much fupa<
nor to that of lampooncn ol iht Govcinmrai/
William PultciMy, Zf^t
S( t.
* Whether the Man who confcflcd hlrafelf the Author Mr. PulKiur.
of the Paper hl^acvuk'J hiBtlcIf of whit he did not commit,
or ha^ ingcnuoufly and openly difctjvcm! the 7'ru(h. it i^ be-
yood my Peneiratica abrolutcly to decide : the I'tankiiers
Bud UocoiKetn with which he made the declaration, give it
at trail the Appearance ot Truth, nor do I ^ifcoverany Rcdfcn
ior doubcing hu Sincerity. U there any Improb-'bi^ity in
the Natuie of the Fid tbai ftiould incline ni to futpcQ bii
Veracity f I> their any apparent AdnntBge to br gainrd
by affinning a ia'Ce CbHta£litr r Neither cf thole CiTnini-
fHncct can be produced a]>ain0 hitn ; and aa AiTcrtion ii to be
adinitud fot its own Sake, wheo there ii DOthiog to lavaH-
daie it.
• Bat the honourable Gentleman, Sir, appeari to have a
itery part^uhr Reafoa for bn Doubii i j Reaico which will,
1 hope, ^>avc no '-Veight with any but hitnfeU. By denying
the Faper to ihii \Uo. he givci rcum for Conjcftutc ard
^alpic'omo T*"f.t fjt and wiilc, and wanton with whattvcr
Chinficra he (h4il thmk proper Subjccli for Lit Aniufcmcoc.
An Author it now te be fought, aMi many iltvcitirig Aigu-
Voi.. VU, 0 mcuia
'( Roliert
( »8 )
T4,Ceo tnnti may be brought by the dultefl Enquirer for Aitng St'
uputi one Man, or dctiying it to anoifaer.
* I'fae honourable Gentleman, Sir, has given us a bold
Specimen of ibii Kiod of \Vj{, by iafioaating ihat it i» ibe
Produflion of (a me one of tht \icmhrrs of thit Houfe i a
ConjcAure ot which 1 am noi able to Bnd ibe FuundAcian,
ind therefore imagine, ibat RaiDrry rather than Argument
wuiatended. But let the hononrabic Grntlemao recoIkA,
tbscibe chief Excellence oIKuillcry it Politeaci't. to which
he tiM fwcly pttd hiilc Regard, in Aippoling thai what hns
been unncimoudy condemneil » a Libel, has one of thofe
Wboccnfured it for its Auth&r.
* If lam particularly hioicd ai in thti fagicioai CoqJco
lure, 1 lake (iiii Opportunity of declaring that I am equally
ignorant of the whole Aifair with any other Gentlemiin in
Cliik Houfc ; that I never (aw the Paper, til! it wai delivered
to me at ihe Door, nor the Authoe till he appeared at ibe
Kar. Haviog tbut cleared myleif from this Arperfion, I
declare it as try Opinion, that every Getilleman in the Hotife
can (afcly puige hitnfclf in the (ame Manner: for 1 cannot
conceive, thai any of tbeoi can have ivritien a Libel like
thii. Tbete arc* indeed, loine Pafiages which would not
dtfgrace the greatelt Abilities, and fome Maxinu tme in
thetnfelvct, though prrhapi filhcioufly nppttcd, and ai leaft
rucban Appearaocc of Kcafooiitg and Knowledge.ai fettthe
Writer far above the Level of the conrtrnptible Scriblerj of
MiaiJlerial Viodicaitoa* : A Herd of Wretches, whom net<
thcr Information cao enlighten, nor Affluence elevate; low
Drudgct of Scufrilicy, wtioA; Scandal is hannldj far Wani
of Wit, and whofe Oppoiition it ooly troublclORie from the
Pertinacioufncfs of ^cuptdity.
* Why iuch immenle Soms are diftributcd amongft thefe
Rcptilci, it ik fcarcc poffible hot to enquire ; for ii cannot be
imagined that thole who pay them cxpcflany S-Jppori from
their Abilities. ]f their Patrons wou'd read their Wricingi,
Uwir Saliriei would quickly be withdrawn i for a Few Pagea
would convioce ihem, that they can neiti)er attack nor de-
fend, neither raiieany Main's Rirputatioa by itieir Paoegyrtc,
aor deilroy it by their DcUaiauon.*
Sir Robert Walpole.
Sir.
' I hope it ii not expe^ed. tha< the (Icat with which one
CUlJ of Our political Wiiteri iuve been aitackeJ by the
hubourabte GentlctnaD, Jhould engage rae to nodcriake their
lArfcncewiih the fame Earnrllncli. J have neither Jnicreft
enough in the Quctlion ce amkcn my Paflioof, oo« Cuiioftty
( 19 )
or LeiAtr* fufficient for fuch an ExamiDatioD orthe Wtitingi Anno i4.0«o.
' 00 cich S"d*. «> j» KfCcflirj', belorr the Suprriority of toy
Author sbove his Bwhrencan bf juftly afFcrtcd.
' It is DO Pirt, Sir, of my Employment or Amufemeiw,
to rOOiparc tiicir Arguments, or to baliince iltcir Abilities )
'fiordal often rtad thr Papers of either P.iity, except whra
|-I en inlorilKd by (bene iKbi hkve tnme Inclination to fucb
^rutliei than myklf. tiut tbcy hm rii«aby fomc Accident
[ltbavetbe]tt:ommDn txvel.
Yet, fliH ] may not »pp<ar entirely to defert tbe Quef.
ion, 1 cannot forbnr to fay. that I have never from zhett
iccidental Infpeflioni (Mf their Performanccf, discovered any
iftcafuo 10 exalt ibe Autbori who write agoinEl the Admioi*
Itation, (Oil higher Dcgter ofKcpuuiion than their OppO'
ents. 'I'hM»n/of ibem Oefrive loui Applaufei, I cinnot
lerc, and am afraid ttijt ill, which deUtvcs to be prcferv'd
I the Writing* oo either Side, may be coniraAed to a very
ew VolDtncs,
The Writers for the Oppofitlon appnr to me to be Do-
ling more ihaa the Echon of their rrcdfceiTon, or what
flitl [DOiC iJefptcabte, of thcmfclvc^, and to bavc piodocwl
tbtrv in (lie lall {ereo Yuji, vvbit^L bid uui been (aid (even
fern before.
I may, perhaps be ihouehtby fome Gentleman of each
'bft.to fpcjk contetDpluoulfy of (heir Advocates, nor ftull
think tny own O(.<tnio(i hU jut) for fuch a Ccnruie i for tbe
lepuciiiun of controve/lial VVriiers anles, generally from
nc PrcpolfcfTion of their Readers ia favour of the Opinioni
fhich they eodeavour to defend- Men cifily admit the
rocce of 40 Argument which icode tofupport NottonB,t)u(
:ii their IniercU to diffjte. and rcidtly £nd Wit and Spirit
laSatirepoinCeUaiCharj^eri which they drfire lodrprert.
It to (be oppoiitvPany, ar>devcn to ihemrdvci, when their
Paffioni have fuffidrd, and their Interell ii dlitlnttctt frorn the
Jtiettion, thofe Arguments appear only loud Aderticni, or
>|>iy Suphiftry ; and that Wtf. which was clamourouUy
itfcd, ditcovcn iiiclf to be only I mpudcnce or low Conceits i
le Sjtiritcvipontcs, atul the Mjligniiy only reroaini.
If'we coofider, Sir, what OppoGtioa of Clunfler ii
IKcITiry to conftitute a political V^ riter, it will not be noil'
'ircd, that fa few excel in that Undertaking. He that
rill write well in Politici. mull at the fame Time have a
>tnplete Knowledge of the Qurl^iun, and 1'ime lodigeR his
llioughei into Meiliod, sod poliOi bit Stile into Klegaiicci
rhich it little left than 10 fay. He taaH be at once a Man of
''Bufinefi, and a Man of Leifuic : forpoliucat Traoladtooa
are out cafily underftuod, but by ihoie wboarc esgag«d ia
Arn(»u,Geot>i«m.ind tlur Artof Wriung isnotaUaioablt wuho« lon^
11 n*p
yCr-Howe.
PrafUce, ac^J k^fcottry A*ppl(ca*ion.
• Thin it h-ipiJiriii that po'itiul Writings are gencralljr
defcAive. Knr thc> are t^rawn up hy Men unacquainted
wiili public Bufiocto, ind wtio om ttictctore unljr ainufs
their KruJcn witb bilaciout Gecitah, fpccioas SopKiitnes,
oi ao AgreeabI St'Ir s or ihcy aie the htiiy ritxlu^ions of
bafy Neg"t»lor), who, itio'thcycsonoc but excel the other
Claitr.f A'tilcr* in ihai which is of tneil Importance, the
Ki>owlnl&e o) ihor SjbjtA arc yet rarely at leifurc todif-
S,y ibii Knont-'tlgc to Advantage, or add Grace toSoli-
ity.
• Wriura of the latter fort appear but &ldam, and moS
of our political Paptn arc the AmufcDieots of Lrirure, or
the Kitpetliennof Want.
• Whether the Paper, now before ui, U the Produce of
Eafc. or cf NccefGi}', I fliill t\oi determine ; I have alteaijy
offiiti my Opinion, thnt the Man who claims it. is not ibc
Author, nor tio I Jilcovcr any Rcafon for changing oiy Sen*
timent: I'he QucJfinn it % Q^irllion merely of Ctirjcclure,
Ance nciilivr I, nnr (In Hoi)c>iublc Genilcmao attempt la
offer any dcmonflraiv^ Proofs of our Opinion. If he has
any to pioJiKC in fdvaarof hi! own NotioQs, let him lay
ibcm before jcu, Luc let bim aiwayi forbear to impute to
me Alimioni ts'ich 1 iierer uttered, and beware ot repte.
fen-!: Qtnc Ti dcciatirg 'hat I believe ihii Paper the Coai'-
pofitKJB of feme Meaixr; of tbt» Houfc'
[// vat thai JttattJ, <whtthtr tkit Ofime J^Mtli hr panlfiti
iy liv jf^livrih ff tht Hemft, or refrrrrd la tht Cegn.KXKe*
rf fHU cf the Ceuftr if H-rHmiaftr Hall, e« 'tvbiib 0(i»'
fim Mr. Hvt^t f^oh m /sfUtvi]
Sir.
* It la the Duty of every Pitt of the LcgiA'tuic, qoi
only to prefrrve the whole Sylteni of our Goverumnt
analurred and aniini'^t'ed, I>ut to atlcnd panicQlarly to ih«
Support of ihcir own I'rivilegci. Privilege} not confiu^rcd
upon them by cm ' ricellsr}. but for wife rurpores.
' It i) thePrivi''-gc <-f this Iluuic that we, and we only,
arc the Judges of our own Rights, and we only, therefore,
can affign the proper Pur.ifhaicat w%a they Ihall be p[«>
ftimpiaouQy jr.vadcd.
* If we remit this OfTcodcr, who ba aitenipicd to de-
bafc the Houfc in the Opinion ot the Nation, to any iucf.
rtor Court, we nliow that Court co determine by tfie Pu-
nilboicpt that ihail be iiiflidcd, the Impoituce of ihii
A6ciDbIyr
( 21 )
AiTcmbly, «nd the Valoe of the coUcaive CharaCltr of thii Anrto 14, Getn
Houie. "J^J*-
' It theirfofe ctmcern* bj, in rt^ ard lo our own Dig- ^-^irNi^
»ity, aikdio the PrivJIegn of our SuccrfTots, ttiitt we reuin
e Cogniunce of this Crime in our own Hands, in which
ii placed by ^rpctuil Prcfcriptioa uid the nature of our
onditotioD.'
Ordered, That William Coolcy hiring conftffed liimleir
ibe Author and fub iflirr cf a malicious and fcmdaloiia
tfibel, iniitled, CaJidiraittBJ wp^n thi Embargo n Prwffitm
' I'lffual, be tor tii» (md O&nce committed to NewgatE.
Sir William Vonge.
S t R|
* J loi picitcd with fiaJirg tliat the Malice «nd tnile .. wmjim
Dcy of tfits Libel. h» milnl in the Houfe ■ jail Kefent- Vongc,
CDt. and that the Wrrtcb, who with a Confolence lo Krady,
d (uch ApjwaraDcc of SitiifaAion in hif CouHicttanc^
nfclTei, or lailicr ptodaimi bimfelf ihc Author, it irtnted
be driervci. But let u» not tergft that ttie Ume Degree
t Guilt siwayi requirei the fAme Punjlhrnenf, and. that
ben ifae Author of Scandal ii in Prifon, the Ptinicr and
'fopAgaiorcf it DUglil out to be ai Labcrty.
* The Prinrer of the Daily News is furely the propef
)j(A of your indignation, who infcrted ihii Libel id hb
'apcr, wiibout the KoDdnef) of an Author, and wiiboul the
cmpiJUofl v( a Bribe i a Bribe, by the Help of which it
1 afiul to circulate Scurrility To thi» Man the Ex pence
ir Labour of afpcrfing the Government was rtcompenfcd
J Cbe Pleafarc, and be could not prevail on bimfcif to emit
ijr Opportunity of incenfing the People, and cxpoling at
re the whole Legillature to Cenfctc and Contempt.
• Tbot'e. thertfof c, that have concuried in the ImprifoA'
est of the AuihoT, will doubllefi join with me in requir-
the Attendance of hit officious Accomplice, and I cannot
Kbear exp/efling my Hopea, that be will not swet with
indcr Treatmenc
• It it lar (ram being the £1(1 CSence of hit licenttoul
refi ( and the Lenity of the Govcrntncnt. by which he
liai been fo long fptred, bat liad 00 other EficA upon him.
than to add Confidence 10 h'u Malice, and incite him to
idvince from one Dcgreeut Impudence to another.
' He has for fevcial Wc^iis pcrhilcd in mirreprcfeeung
the Intention of il;e Embargo, by Letter; pretended to be
writrcn by Friend* ol tnc Governnient, who are injured
tjr it. iJc bai vented hit Inliouatiooi as bitherto, wiih
Jmpunii/,
^
( 22 )
Xttnot^GfO ImpanhXf to, ar it ippeari, without Fear 7t h Tin*,
J^si^ (hcrclorc, to difturb his Security, and rcllrain him from ad-
\m^^r^m/ diug one Calumny taanottier.'
Sir.Jobn Banurd.
5 t K,
« The End or Punithm«nt it to prevent a Reperitioo of
•It John
the lame Ciime both in the Otfcnder, and in thole who may
hiTe the fame loctination!, and when ttut End ii »ccotn-
plifhed, all firthei Severities hare an Appetirance rather t^t
Croelty than Jaftice.
« By punifhing tb< Author of this Libel, we have, in
jny Oplnioo, (ul^cicntly fecuied our Dignity from any
future Attacks, we have ciulSed the Head of the Confe-
deracy, and prevented the fobordinate Agent! from cxecut-
jag their Malice. Printers can do no Injury without Aa
thoni and if no Man (hall dare to write a Libel, ft ii not
wonhy our Enquiry how m-my may be inclined to publilh
».
■ But if the Printer mufl nece&rily be punifhed before
ttte Refenimcnt of the Houfe can be {ati'fied ; it it Ihall
not be Thought fufficient to punHh him without whofe Affilt*
usee thc'oihcr coa!d not hive oHer-dcd ; iei u<, at leail, con-
fine our AnimidveiGoD 10 the prcfeiu Fault. witKoul trace-
jng back his Life for part MirdemrAnors, and charging him
with accumulated Wtckednefs ; for i^ a Mao'; whole Life
11 to be the Snbjed of judicial Entjuinei, when be Ibatl
appear at the Bar of this Houf^ ihe moll Jnnoccnt nill
nra Resfoo 10 trnnblcwhcn they approach it.
* Even with regird. Sir, to the OBcnce of which he il
now aecufied, (cnncwhat may. perhaps, be fatd in Exieauatroa
of his Guilt, which I da not (rffier to giatify any perfunal
Affeilioo or Regard for htm, to whom I am eq«,il'y n
Stranger with any «hcr Gentleman in thri Houfe, but to
prevent a Puntfhment which ouy be hereafter thought dif>
pTOpoitioned to the Crime.
• Jt il, Sir, to be Temembered, that he was nftr the origj.
nal PriDier of the Libel, which be only icprintcd from a.
Papsr, of which he Itnew that it wai to be difperfed at our
P«or, and in which he could not lUiiurally fi^fpcd any fedi-
[looi or dangeroQ) AflertkHi) to be contained. It i<, there-
{are. probable that he fell into ihc Offence by Ignoiance,
or, at worf), by Inadvertency t and, as his IftreiltioD was
set trioiin*), be na/ properly be fpaced.'
Mr.
( »3 )
Anno 1 4, Qe*.
r. WiimbigtOA.
I cirnot bot ihiok ibe Honoarable Gentleman hctnytd xii. Winninf*
tjr bis Ztrat fur (be Defence of thii M«n, into foBie Aflcr- wn.
innt not lo be fupporied by Law or Reafon. If ic be in-
locnt to prim ft paper once printnl, will ix not inevitably
' Hew, tb«t the moft enormons InliiJu or tbe Crown iiielfi
mod friiiticKis Inv'.Aivd, ind siotldiiDgcrotis PoUtioiu,
If be ditpcrlLil tkiro' the whole Eoipire, williuut Aay
lOger but to the ocrm»( Pnn rr J And wfau Rralijo, Sir,
be slBgvfJ. wfcjt tiiat whicb is criminil in one Mu,
lUl bt ianoceot m utother i
Nor ii tliii ilie only Tofition which htd been aOvsncnl
Mnjy to ibr I.iwi of oar Countryt fir it has been Daett-
that the gefiTi' CVrnfler ri no Offi-ider ii a CoB&d«-
itioti luidgu fron ttiat of i-is iDimeifi<ikte Ctioic; i inl that
vhateTci a; y Man'i pkU Life had been. h> ii only to be
udged aeeof'ing to tbe [ivi>Jence for (he Orieoce, which ii
xa the Subject of RxAtninUion-
• How much thi^ Opicton i; confidcm with the PraJlict
^ our Couni) a very : ivUJec oi ihcir Metboda
)f procccdii.g. will rr«iii .-r. Ti any Villain (ben
fcoDviflcd but by the Ipdticnce of hli Chandtcr i And it
the ct^ief Queftioa at a Trial the paft Cvndufl of thn
i*cr1bo s( the Bar I '
Sir John Barnard.
S 1 1.
1 rife up o«'y lo aofwer a QueOion, which ii, whether Sir John
ipeiiy or not, put to mr, ami bopa ibe Iiregulaiity willfiantarJ.
be inipticed to mc by titc Houlc, but t« tiie Occafion
Ifwhich producer it.
• I .-tm aflcsd , whether t( u not (he chief Quelljon at the
^Baf of our Court! of Jullice, Wliai ji the ChariN3«f of tlia
'lifoBcr ? And Un(K>l but frcl (uuic AinaxcRirnt that nay
Ibcu'd be [o ii^Hotant of common i'racce.lingi, and (o
tmuch unacquiioied with the Execution of u«ir L^wi, at lo
[h&vc adioitud a Notion To chimetical.
• I'hc Cliaratier ol (he fniudcr ii De\'er eiatninedt ex>
'c<p( when it ii pleaded by himlelr, u*i Wiiocjlo arc pro*
Iduccd to ofi'^rr rcllimany in Ins |''.ivouri that E'Ica, like alt
[other*, ii then (u be examined, and lonictimck cpiiluic^ by
I'^ouraiy Kvidence. But the Chira^ici ot a Criminal, tiio'
it may ba urged by Ktmtcif as a Proof of tin Inntjccncc, it
'never lo ba BMUwnod by hii Protccutor a sd A^^rav.itjon
or Proof of bit Gdill. It it bm le^iutcd by the J^w, that
the
( H)
Anno 14. Geo the genrral Chiraaer of a Crimiaal, bat that ibe panicabr
IL 17 ^a EvidcnMof (hcCrime. wi(h which hellBndicbarged.flionld
\yW\J be examined ; nor is hii Cbarafler ever mcntioMd but by
hiiown Choice.'
Sit William Yoage.
SiK,
Sir WiUljm * "^^ P"*" **** Milignitjf of the Intention with which
~ Yongc t^'* Libel was inrcrtcd in tlic Daily Paper, it cannot be im-
proper 10 obfcrve, (hat the Embargo had been, for muy
J>ay> pttt, the firouriie Popic of this Printer, aod that,
therefore, it wu not by Accident that he admitted fo zea*
loui an Advocate for h'n Opinions to be feafonably afiillcd
by the Circulaiton of his Paper, but that hedoubtlefi wa«
delighted with an Opportunity of difpcrfing Sedition by
Mcuis of greater AbilttKs than hi* uwo.
* Nor can it be juftly pleaded, Sir, in hit favour, that he
was encouraged to publifh it by the Confidence with which
be law it ditperfed i for it wai pnnced by him in the Morn-
ing, and not brought hither till the Aficinoun. I cannot,
theiefore, but conclude, that bit Intentioni were agrcejible to
hit PraAicc, and that hr dejetves to accoDpaoy the Author
iabitptelcnt Conhnemcnt.'
Mr. Carapbell.
Si a,
Mr.Cunpbct), ' I hope it will not be imputed to tne as a Difregird of
the Government, or Ncglcfl o( the Honour of chit Hoafe,
that I dcctue myfetr on all Occnfions like thii. inclined to
Lenity, and ihtnk it ncceftiry alw3)-j 10 proceed by regular
Method), and koown Forms of JuQice, not by capricioiu
Determination*, and Orders vanabi'e at Pleasure.
< I oppofed the ImprifoDmcDt of the Mao who jud now
ippearet! at the Bar of our Houfe. aod am Hill more unwil-
ling to proceed to Severities sgainll another, who is crioii-
nal only in a fubordinate Degree. The loudeft Dedaimeri
agaiall thofe Men cannot have Arooger Detellaiion of Falf-
hood and Sedition than mylclf ; but however flagrant may
be the Crimes, thry may be puniOied with unjullifiable Ri-
gour.and. in my Opinion, we hvrc already proceeded wttb
Severity fufficicDi to difeotirage any other Attempb of the
fame kind.
• Whether it will promote the Advantage of the Public,
and the Efficacy of our Deliberations, to deter any Maa
from the common Pra^ice of giving u> Tnformatlon by de-
livering Papers at our Door, mull be con(idcrcd by the
*Nox
( 25 )
' Nor a ii l<(s woithjr of our moH attentive Er.qniry, 4nnni4^C(r<
uvtuibcr it ii oo< loore rcaJonible to prorccntc ihii Ofrei.der '* >T49-
To the coRunoxi Kornl^ Lf jiHiu, itian lo pucufb him by
^•riy A£) ol* uocoouollablr, uiuccouDioble AuilioriLy > Wlic-
ger ii uaoitaote ruTpjulilp to have bim prQ.'eciUNJ Liefure
, Judge unprrjtidiccJ, Anil atliftnterellcd Jary, than lo a^ at
eu I'aiiy, Evidence, and Jotigc. I h»ve noDc£jr, Sir^
dunjoiiljiDg ijic Fiivilcgrs of ihii Houlc; and yjet, Icff
fouJJ ( coriinbuic to rlUbiiOi «n; Preccdeolt of uqlinvW
E*D>vcr,iir>rburat)' Funiihmcats.
Mr. Aitornei General.
Si«,
' Whence fo much Tendemef* can arife for an Offender Mr Atmmef'
ihii kinJ, 1 im at a Loft to dilcovcr i nor am I Jble to G«ncr»L
>nccive any Argumcat thiit can be produced (or exempting
■Qta Puailliincfit the Printer of a Paper, which ba been
Mrudy determined by cite Vote vf clic Houfr, to be a fcon*
itouiLibcl, tci>ding to ptomotc Sciition
[c hjubccn. inijccd, agreed, ihu there are contained in
^t Paper (omc irue Pofiuoui, and fomc P^iXigei ionocent
It leaf, and pcrlum rational and fealbivablc. But ihJi, Sir,
jotbing more than to lay, that the Piper, fliguiow at ic
"plight have been iwciled to a ^ater Degree of Jmpu-
le and Scurrility i ^ai what n already too heinotu to
bom« roi^ by gitaur Vinilcnce become more ciwr-
• ir qo WickcdDefi, Sir, u lo be checked till it hat a|.
incd t>)c gmielt tir^^'i'' «• which it can poSibly arrive.
urCouiUof Cr4in 'are may be Out upai ufeli^i
if ^ iitw uuiuv^. . . uoj^rarhi will piliate a Libcl^
'mfon ioiiy be wriicen and djlpcrled witfanut U-ingcr or
.e/trAUit ; for what Libel wai ever To crowded wxh ScU'ti'- a,
at a few Periods might not have been (eleEtcd, wtijcb,
ipaa thii Principle, miuhc havcliecored it from Ccnfjrc
The DiOg'T ot liiiCQuraging Intelli£et)cr from being
:rcd It the JJuur u(
tiy /Ij^TchfnfiL'aJ uf
lire not foroe»n ;'i'
Ay, ano im'j.'iD!: '
iy(:_: -
llUfC to Juiuw U'
ncglcA their fvoj'
ing their Govrroon.
y»L. vir.
. dcci nm alum mcwitti
;,;c lo ibe Nation : (or t
i :\.e Wifdom of this .'ViT-m-
m rrcrive any Affifliivcc J'oai
■ i !" "!:■ ' .'•■'•<) oiigttt, in
.III', i^ >.'- 't jaiiiriKary
, than lo be encojiigeij
' -■'..i, Air the fake of dticA-
» When
Annoi4,G(tf * When Sills, Sir, are depending, by wl)i<^ either t^
II. 1740. the Intjereft of the Nation, or of particular Men, may be
!L/Y^^ thought to be endangered, it is indeed the inconteflable Rigfai
6f every Briton to oflfer his Petition at the Bar of the Houfe,
abd to deliver the ReaToni upon which it is founded. Thii
is a Privilege of an unalienabli Kind, and which is n'erer
to be infringed or denied ; and this may always be fupported
without countenancing ftnonymons Intelligence, or receiving
fuch Papers as the Authors of them zte afraid or afhamed to
own, and which (hey» thcrcftffe« tmploy meaner Handi to
diftribute-
'. Of this kind. Sir, undoubtedly, is the Paper now under
Our Confideration, of which I am hr from imaginiDg that
it was drawn Qp by the Man who declares himfelfthe Wri*
^er, and atn therefoft'e Convinced of the Neceffity of calling
the Printer to the Sar. that Whatever the Lenity or Juftice of
this AiTembly may determine with Regard to his Puni(hmen^
fie may be examined with refpeft to the real Authors of the
Libel t and that our Refentment may &11 upon him, who
has endeavou(*d to flwlter himfelf by expofing another.
Mf. Ord.
Si «,
Mr. Ori ' I «ni inclined to believe, that the f erfons affociated at
Writing and difperfing this Paper, whofoever they may be,
ire Af no high Rank, or confiderable Influence ; as it is not
likely that any Man who had much to hazard, would expofc
himficif to the Rerentment of the whole Legiflaturet bat let
us not for that Reafon exert our Superiority io wanton Pik*
itiOiments, or tyrannize merely becaafe we cannot be refilled.
Let us remember chat the fame Juflice and the fame Huma-
nity is due to the mesneft, ss the higheft of our Fellow S^b-
jeftij and that there is evenlcfs Neceffity ol^ rigorous Mca-
ftires, as the Attack it lefs formidable.
• Bat. Sir, there is one Motive to MoJcrEtion that has
fcldom been found Icfs efficacious than the Confitlcration of
theLawsof Juliiceor Humanity. We ought to be withheld
by regard to our pQllcrity, and even to ourfe'ves, fro.-a any
exorbitant Exainfion of our Privileges. V7e kiiuw, that
Authority once exerted, is clainsed cftcrwards by Prercrip-
tioo. And who knows by what fudr^en Rotation of Power,
he may himfeif fuffer by a Precedent which he hns concurred
a> eC.ablifli, and frel tne Weight of that oppreffive Powtfr
whioh he firfi grsLted for die Puniflimefit of another I *
•Mt,
(. 27 )
Mr. Howe. -^TiV;?*"
S I i, UOTN^
' lara alfvayganwilling tot^pofeany Propo&IofLenitjrj,^,., ^owf-
9nd Forbearaofie, nor iiure now any Intention of heighten- '
iDg the Guilt of this Mm by cruel Exaggeratioqs, or ini;itr
lag the Hoiffe to Rigour and Perfecution.
■ But let us remember. Sir, that Judicc and Mercy art.
equally to be regarded, and while we pify'tije Folly of a
milguided, or perhaps, a tboughtlcfs Offender, let us no|
iiifier ourfclvet to be betrayed by our Con^paffion, tq injure
Qurfclves apd DarPoAerify.
* This Hoofc, Sir, has always claimed and exerted the
privilege of judging of every Olience againll itfelft a Privi-'
Ijcge fo long elUbtifhed, and fo cooftantly exercifed, that I
doubt whether the inferior p>urts of Judicatue will take
Cognizance of an Attack i)pon us ; for how can they ven-
ture to decide upon a Queflion of fuch Importance, without
any Form or PrecedentTor their Proceedings.
■ There feeoH alfpto be at this Time, Sir.an uncoiDmoa
Neceffity for Tenacioufnefs of our Privilege!, when at fome
Whifpcrs which have been wafted from the ether Houfe
inform us, a Motion hai been made in Term, which might
imply the Subordination of this Aflembly,.an AiTertioii
without Foundation eitberin Reafon or Jullice, and which I
flull always oppofe as dellruAive to our Rights, aw) danger
rous to our Contlitiftioif.
« Let us therefore. Sir, retain JQ our Hands the Cogni;
xioce of this A&irf and let the Crimipal either fuffi:r his
PuniOiment from our Ssotenct, or owe hit Pardop to ouf
Mercy.'
This Motion was then carrid in the Affirraitive; Aytf
220, Noes 163. Whereupon Mr. Meres was called in an4
examined, and being withdrawn;
Refolved, That J. Meres be committed; and that hit
Majelty be addrefled to give Orders, that the faid J. Mcret
be profecuted by the Attorney-General, on a Divifion, Ayci
188, Noes 155. 1
Then Mr. Hughs was called io and examined, and Juy-
ing protefled bit Innocence of the feveial Matters con*
tained in the faid Libel. &c. And being withdrawn, Re>
folved, that j. Houghs be committed, in order to make his
Submiflioo for his faid Offence i Ayes 148, Noes 75.
Otf. 4th. The Houfe, according to Qrdcr, was called ^
9vcr, and Thomas Strangeways Horacr, E(^ was ordered
£ 2 in^
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Amof4,Cte- into Coflody f»r Nonaiiendancc; Ayes 203, Noes 155,
'i^i'^**' ^^-^ * Motion being made, and the Qudlion pui, T hat ihe
K^v\^ HouTe be cillcd over upon ibis Day Fortnighij itpaffied in
die Negative, Ay« 3 1 , Noei i j 3 .
The 5:h. Mf . John Hughs mide hit S.ubrmiffion at the
Birof ttiE Houl'e, and waj difi;:h.irged upon paying (lii feet,
KecciTcd a Copy of a Trc;.ty hctween his M.^jelly and
(he King of Sweden, ai Landgrave of Hene-Cificl ; with
il TnAAaiion of the Ume. Signed, WcdmiAiter ihc 9ih of
M»y. 1740-
Received three Petitions fram Prifonrrs etrnfirTed foi*
Debt, in the JjiiU of Lincolo. Oxford md Efkx, piayhig loi*
ReJief. Sec.
„ln a Committee, mitfe feme Progrefi en the Bin 10 pro-
hibit, for a limhcd Time, the Exportation of Corn, and
other Prcvilions oot of Gteat Bmiin, Ireland, and bis Mk-
Jefiy'j PlanialioRs in America i and deferred the faither
("onfi-eralwjn (o Tacfday nCxr.
A Moiiwn being made, and the QueRion put. That the
Jlotife do atjjourn, it psffcd in tlie Ncgatitcj Aye^ Sy,
ftofi 99- Then Mf. SaHtlja tnored thst an Addrrfs be
fTcfcnied to hti Mrjclly, 10 oixicf that the Kftibargo mny be
taken off of Ship} laden with t'ifh and Rice; which was
ajtcedio, andotdercd accordicgly.
The S:h. In a ^ran^ Committee weoi thio* the L<nd-
Twt Bill, with feveni! Amend en cnti.
The g[h. Agreed to ihs Report of ibe Lind Tax Bill,
and ordered it to be cn^rolled.
Received 3 Petttiott of John Dodd. Eftj: complaining of
an undue ElcA.on and Return for the Borough of Jtcading,
in the Couniy of Berk.i.
The loih. Id a grand Committee on the Supp'y, ramc
lo rnreral Refcluiiont,
The I tth. Read a firft time, a Bill for regulating t rrab
at f^iS Priui, aod for the mtne efHritaal fummoning of Spe-
cial Jttfiei.
Agreed to the Report of the following Rcfolutior^s cm
Ihe Supply, vir. ReibJved, That the Number of Men to bfe
continued (or Guards and Garllors fcr 1741, be 'O.t^SJ
Men. intludirg CotnmilTion and Non commiffion Officers.
Attd thic 893,189!. be granted for defraying the Expcnce*
of th> t^mc.
Refolrtd, That 6930 Marines be eontjnocd for 1741.
And that 1 24.052). be granted fi^riJcfrayiiig the Exptocei
of tire faipci
Kefolved,
{ 29 )
Refolvtd, Ttut in»ddi!ioiWl itamher o{ J7OC Meu^ Anno 1 4, Ceo.
liWfjr 1741. Andtfen ii6,3i?l.begramt<d fof drfray- LlJlT' .
ig thT Fxpdftcrj of the fime. CATfN-/
RcfeJferf.JThat an aildiional Numbcf of 46io Miiinu
/litcd for f^- ^^'^ '^>i 90,201!. be granted Tor de-
iving ihc luj-cnces of l^e fitiif. And it was moved,
h«i the new ruled \)tn be ittcofporiccd inio the [Uaditig
irps, bccaufi! tl*e roimiiig them into new Rcgimcno
aold I* mow barc?«f»fr.e and cxpenfive. A-c, Whicb
ftfr Dfbte pitTcd in the Negative j A>«s 232. Noes 166.
Theiitfi, Ofdcted, Iha: r/ifmatSuaiigewsys Horncr»
F.fq:4Mrntbero( this Hoafe,bediicbafgedout of Callody,
paytoghii t'cei.
Mr. SaaJyi then moved for an homble Addrefj to hii Ddute ontttC
U}eiiy, fhji fut ihv future tife of hu Mijefl^'ii Sahjeft', Kni(Joyn>*nt
J Ofhittt MOW fubiilliog upon llalf-pty, &c. might becm- "* 'l^^'f*
>k>;«d io the Army, which hi fupponed to ihisliffea. ^""^ ^Afat"*-
St R,
Tdo* f hire often known Motloni Of>pofed wiihotit Siip. Sanil^^
injr juft Oljcv^ioni, or it Icsll without ai.y Proof 0/ la<h ^ki
Inceavtaicoats hke\y to arife fram them, ,is were equiva-
It to tbc Advantage which they would have produced^
ftt I cinnoc but coattU, thic my OppoHnon to thii will be
iMJtpcficd and lurpriftng i for It ii, ia my Opiolon, iup.
Drted by every Law of Jull^ce and Humanity. If were-
■fd ibcVoblic'ia genera!, it nnnot bnt produce fome Alte-
r>a:ion of tlic n^tiooat Lxpcnce: and if wc confider tha
>.uticulir Prt(oni to whoui it immedUtcIy rcbtrs, they
m^c certainly x jurt Claim to that Regard, whtcli it is ihtf
Tendency of thu Mution to procure them.
To buTthca With luprrlluous OfTtcers, and unneceO^ry
txpence*. • i'eopic nlit-ady ovcnvf«Imcd ivitb Tajiei, and
>veT run nl-S [he Dvp*ndcBl* on the Crctvn, is forely to
fthe hlghc ^ruel and abCuid. And to cocdemo thote
[Meo to ' . , '_ Hnd Penur>', who have fervcd their
[Coantry with Bfj^ery and Fidelity, to prefer oreiperlenced
^ctipIiDgi iQ thofc CocnmifBoaji which would gUdly be
by Men who have alrtidy tried their Couj^ge in
Fihe Battle, tnd borne the Fatiguei of Marchei, atul the
'haoge of Clim^ief, 11 fi:rely not only to opprefi the I>c-
feiving.and fcaiier Prootoiian without jull Dillinflion t but*
l^htt nyct more enorniOi»t >e is to wanton with the public
hfcxy^ and expoi'e tti to oor Eoemie).
Noi docs it appear (o me fuEclent, that the Vcteiad
tn bcrtllored to the C^iT'iniffi^ini Whkb lliey foimerly
[pjoytd ; they ought, upon u: Ajgtncniatijn of our Troop-,
( 30)
ArDoi4.GeD to berKo;Bp«]eedbx fonie Advancement for their Services
11. 1749. ^nd their Sufferings 1 the Enfign ought to become a LieutCr
Vv/"^'' ~^-' nant, and the Lieutenant be exalted to a Captain ; Station*
which they yvill furely fill with more Dignity and greater
Abilitijes. than Boys newly .difcharged ffoni' School, tni
cntruftedwlth uneipcAed Aaihority.
< If it be reafooable. Sir, that Expence flip^ld be fparo]
in a lime of general Poverty; if it be politic to carry 01^
War in the manner moA likely to produce Succefs ; if it be
juft, that thoi'e who have ferved their Country Ihould be pre?
fcrred to thofe who have no Merit to bpaft> this Motion
cannot be rcjcfted.'
Sir William Yonge.
Si R,
Sir wniiim ' '^° *^* Motion now made, it will not I believe be obh
V^nge. je£ted, tha' it is unrtafonable, or unjult, but that it is unne-
KitSAiy, and that is not drawn up with fufiicicnt ConfideratioOf
* It is unneccAary, becaule his iMajeity jsadvisM by it to no
other Mesfures ch.in thofe x^'hich be has ali^eady de^rmined
to purfue i for he i^i declared to me, Sir, liis InEen:ioii of
conferring the new Commifiions upon the Officers who re-
ceive half Pay, before any other Officers {hall be promoted.
' The Motion appears to me not tc be; very attentively
conCdered, or drawn up with great Propriety ot hxpreffioa t
for it fuppofes alt the half-pay Officers ft tor the Service^
which c£n>'Otbe iinagincd by any Man, who confiders that
there has Ic'n'Pesce for almolt thiny Years; a Spsce of
Time, in which many vigorous Copftitationi muft hs.ve de*
clircd, and many who were once well qualified for Command,
mull be difabled by the Infirmities ctf Age. Nor is the Pro-
inotioq of one of thefe Gentlemen coofidered always as an
A£l of Favour, many oftheiT) have in this long Interval of
Peace engaged in Methods of Life very little confident with
military Empl^'ymentSi many ot them have Families A^hich
• demand their' Cure, and which they would 'not forfake for
any Advancr.aes which a new Commiflion could afford them,
and therefore ic would not bp very confillent with Humanity
to force thpm into new Dangers and Fatigues, which they
are now unable tofupport.
f With rrg:ird to thefe Men, Compaflion and Kindnef*
feem to require thai they fhould be fuffered to fpend [heir few
remaining Dayi without Interruption, and that the Dangera
and Toils of their Youth fhould be requited in their Age witti
]^(e atid Retirement.
< There are oihers who hayc lefs Claim to the Regard
pf (he Public, and who may be pafs'd by in the pilt^ibutiof
of
( 3' )
bf new Preferments without the Imputatlan of negTedmg Annoi4,de&,
Merit. Thefe ire tbey who hare voluntarily refigrwd thefr "■ '740-
Commiflioni for the fake of Half-pay, aM hiTC prefered l«^"V^X»
Judo'ence and Retreat to tlie Service of tb'eir Country.
* So that it appears, that of {hofc who noi^'fubfift upon
Half-pay, fomfe tri unable to exe'tute a Commtffi^n, fome
do not dcfire, and feme do not deferve it, and with regard to
the remaining Part, which can be no great Number, I have
already declared the Intention of his Majelly, and tbercforif
tannot but conclude that ihi Motion is needjefi.*
Mr. PuLeney.
S.a..
* I know not hf what Fatality it is, tfiat all the Motions ■^nii. Pijife;
tnade by one Party are reafonable and oecelTary, and all that ney,' tJiji,
ire unhappily offiired by the other, are difcovered either tt>
be needlcfi or of pernicious Tendency, Whenever a Qutf-
tion can be cloaded and perplexed, the Opponents of the
Miniltry are always milUkert, confuted, and in Confequencft
of the Confiitations defeated by the Majority of Votes.
When Truth is too nocorious tcr bfe denied, and too obvious
to be contelled, the Adm'iriiftration alwaysclaim the Honour
of the frit Difcovery, and will never own that they were
incited to their Duly by the Remonllrances of their Oppo-
nents, tho* tliey never bcforethofe Remonltrances had dis-
covered theleiA Intention of performing it.
* But that the Morion is aUowed to be juft and p'roper,
is fufiictent, the Importance of it will be ctfily difcovered.
For my Part I (hill always Comfider that Motion as tmpor'
tant, which tends to contract the Expenccj of the Pub'ic, to
fefcite Merit f-om Neg)e£l, and to hinder the Increafe of
the Dependenn on the Mioillry.*
Sir Robert Walpolt'.
Sir,
' Thert is no T4mfter Wore oppofite to that inceffant j^^- j^^^^
Attention to the Wellare of the Public, which is the perpe-ivzlpolc.
tual Boalt of thofe who have lignallzed therafelves by oppo^
.fngthe Meafuresof the Adminiftration, than a Lultof Con-
tradiftion, and a OifpoKtion to difiurb this AiTembly with
fupctfluous Debates.
< Whether this Difpfiiitiotf is not difcovered in the Reply
made to the Declaration of his Majefty'i lotentiom, and the
Confrffion of the Propriety of rhe Motion, let the Hobft de-
termine. It ntuft.furcly be conf«JIcd, thit it is EOtnKellaiy
•0 advife what it already determined.
« Nor
I
1
( 3* )
^irmot4.Ceo ' N« is it \tU evident, ihot many of [he Officfri whole
11 i7t3. Intertn it now fo uurmly roliciicd^ nmtl be incifKurititeil by
l/^yNJ ibeii Age for Service, and unable to receive uijr BencAt
from the Offer of new i^ummiffxopi. To deny this, U Co
qurlllon the Fiux of Time, or to imaeinc that the CaoAitu-
lion of a SoIJicris cxcuiFt from ill Jnjuncs.'
Mr. Sandys.
$1 K.
&ubl)s' * I am Cu* from iniendjrg by tfaii Mouoo to fill the
^'^5 Army with decrepid Officcn. or to obftrofl lo any manner
Ibe Ser\-i<c of the Public i nor have 1 aoy other Intent'Oft.
ibao to (ccure to ihofc whofe Yeari permit, a&d whole
Inclioaiions incite them to cotrr once more into the Army,
that Preferment to which ibey hAveaClBim. not only
from their pti Servicei, but from the Sutr of Peancy UM
Ohicurity in which ihey have UoguiQicd.
■ 1 <lefire (o prcfervc thofe whofc Valour hai herttofere
Duuleour Nation the Terror of the World, from tlic Uor-
lificadoii of ieriog thcmlclvet inrolted by Childhovl, aod
comnanM by Ignorance i by Ignoraacc exalccd lo Auiho-
riiy. by the Counteaaocc of fomc fUicioriciaa of the Hoale,
or feme Mayor of a Borough.
^ Whoever hatobrervcd the late Didiibaiion of military
lioBcnirg, wiU cafily difcover that they have been attaloaJ
by Qualifications very difierent from Bravery. or Knowledge
oi the Art of Wari he will Bad that ReginicDt* and Com-
paoirs ate the Rewartli otf* a fealonabte Vote, and that do
Man can prefervc bit Poft in the Arioy, whether given htm
u the Reward of ackoowJcdged Meni, or fold him for the
fuU Valae, any longer than faeemployi all his InflucDCe io
ftvour of the Miniltry.
Sir Robert Walpok.
S 1 a,
Sir Rohert * It hai bfe« already admitted, that the MoUoo can only
Walpolc- bcobje^led toas fuperfloous, and therefore all farther Dehac<e
u mere Wafleof Time without any Profpcclof Advantage,
nor it any thing now acccilkry, but to review the Motion,
■ad corte^ fiKh ExprefiJont as xiuy be thought inaccurate or
improper.
* That «//the Half-pay Officera art not able to ouer
into the Service, h** been already 0irwn, ud therefore 1
Ihoutd imagine, that inflead of aii tkt OffUtrif wc aiigbC
vcryJBltly lubili<ut« Q^ff" frvftrfy ^alijiid.'
Sir
...» J Anne M, Ceo.
jr Jokn fianuud. u 1740.
• Tho* r oinBot cUfcover ihe Nweflity of any Altcnition, Sir Jthn
ioce it cannot be cnicivcd tKat the PxrliamcDt aa advifc RAmsrJ.
ipoflibilitiei, yri dncc fo much Accuracy u ifl'cded, it
ny beiMown) thai the Word «y/lli&llbe left out, asfcem-
D£ to imply more ihan can be intended.
• Rue il;e llonounblc GentlcmaD ii not. io my Opiniun,
hsppy is his AmenJmcnt, ai in hh OI<jr^ion ; for th«
Wordi frsfirU fua/ififJ Qonvey 10 me no cminil Idea. lie
bat ift fitalifitd, ii, I ruppore, fo^rlj qaalijitj, fur I ocvcx
' of tmptf**' ^afi/i<ati9Ht ; but Jf ihc Word pnttrlj
ominrd, 1 bivt oo ObjcCtjoD 10 the Amendracnt,*
Rerolved, h'cniKe ConlfaJmnif, That an humble Addrefs
prctcnied lo hit Majeily, that, for ihc picfcnt and fuiure
i^ oF hi& Majfll)''sSiibje(^;, hewould hcgracioufly plcafett
employ io hit Army luch Perfons ai now reouin upon
lalf Pay, who arc qualified to ferve hit Majefly.
In a grand Committee took the Bill to prohibit the V.x-
iitaiion of Corn, Set, into ConCulcratioo, and ^fier Dcbdie*
efolvcd to proceed further on the fiiroe on Moiwliy oexij
kyes 147, Noes i)t.
Tbe t Cth. Read a thiid Time, »d plied the taod>Tax«
till.
Read a firfl Time. 1 Bill to amend the Law concen:ing
immon kecovcries ; and lu explain and Amend an Ad zgth
Charles U. for Prevention of fraudi and Peijmici, io
aithe Ume reUiei to EiUicj. pt' Aatf y'tt.
Received the Report of bis Majelty'i Anrwer to iheir
ddrel) of Knday Uit, viz. •• I (lull always have :> due
Reptnt for my Half-par Officcis, aod Biall employ fuch of
tkcTB as are properly qualified for tti« Service.''
Agreed to tbe Report nf the Kefolution on Wayi and
leant, viz. Kekilved, that tbe Dutin on Matt, Mum, Cyder
Perty. be further continued to the 241)1 of JuiWt 1 743.
'crcd in t Bill accordingly.
A Motion being made, and the Qjirllion being put, chiC
Ir. John Mcrei, who wat committed to tbe Cultod/ of ihfl
:rjunt at Armii and ordered to be profccukd by the At-
>mey General, for pnnting l^rt of a icandaliwi Libel on
Embargo, Ac in the Daily-Potl, December ill, 1740.
carried bctore one of the Julticei of the Couit of King's
each, in order 10' be admtited to Bail far hit .'\ppnr4ncc
the &rtt Day of acxt Tersn ; and when be hii given Ttxti
Vol. VU, F Security,
k/YN^
(34)
Anooi* GeoSwurity, t!«t ke be difchixged oui of Cttttoay, pajring hU
U^ij40. Fees: it paffod in the Negative ; Ayes 90, Nmii^i.
Midi: a furthef Progpel'» oD the Corn Bill.
The i6ih. Read a iirft Time, 1 Bill for coiiinuinj ibe
Duties upon Mall, Mum, Cyder and Perry, for the Svviot
of the Year 1741.
Made a further Progrefs on the Bill to prohibit f«r a limiwd
Tiaie the Exportation of Corn. Ac.
The 1 7ih. Read a ftcood Time the Malt Bill.
' lb k Grand (.'omniitwewcnl ibro' the Corn Bill wiih 1^
veral Amendments.
Received a Petition of the Goreraor aid Cocnpiny of
Merchants of England trading to the Levant S<as, pi^yiog
to be heard againlt the Petition of the RalEt Coropaii)> for
opening aocw Trade thro* Ruffii to Perfia.
Ordered in an Account of the Butter imported into Londoo
for Icvea V'e^ra pafl, ending at L^dy-Day, 1 740.
The tSth. Read « fecond Time, a Bill for regelating
TrUli at Ki^ Phm, and for the more cfieAtul fummoning
of Special juries, and commiited it for the i jth of Jnnoary.
Read a fecond Titne, a Bill to amend (be Law coocertting
coraaion Recoveries, and to amend an Aft 29tb K. ChaTlea
II. for Pteveaiicn of Frauds and Perjuries, &.c. and commit'
ted it for the i6:h of January.
Mr. Speaker reported. That the Hotife had attended lui
Majefly in the f loui'e of Peets, where hU Mijcily was plcaM
to give the Kuyal AlTent to
HoyilAflent Ao Afl for granting an Aid to his Majelly bya fjnd.Tax
livaitotbe loberaifed m Gieit Briuin for the Service of the Vear itai.
,d.Taa.Bil»,pj .^^c private Ad.
W«nt into a grand Comioittee on the Petittoo of the
RufTu Compiny. &c and examined feveral X^vaol Traden
•gainll (he fiiid Petition ; then came to a Reruluiion thereupoa.
The 19th. Received Part of the Report on the Corn-
Bill, and ordered the tarthei Part to be confideicd 00 the
13th of Januar;.
Agreed to tfte Report of YeSerday'i Refolodon, vi&
Refolved, That the opening of a Trade to and fron Perfi&
thro' Ru2ia, will be a great Advaiuage to ibii Kiogdom 1
aitd particalarly. ia proinoting the Confuaiptioa of tJl<
WooleO'Manufidurei thereof.
Ordered in a Bill acctmliogl/.
Received a Pctiiioo from the City of London, compluo-
ingof the [ncHcftiialnefs of an A^ yii of King Jamei I.
for the recovering of fmall Debts, and for the lelinriwaf
poor Debtor* in Louden. Aad pra^u^g (w Icart w buRy
give
Lan
Lemwit gireo Aitfio u,<!e
11.1740.
t Commiaee ao the Mzic BiU tiU O'^VN^
( is )
I m Bin to evpWn ud amend the fame.
ccordinglf.
Deterred going 'Oto
7[h of Jflituary.
Ovftrrtd Ming into a ComtntttM aa Ways and Mesu till
[ifac 7th of ^^noary.
DefttnA going iaw 1 CommiRce on (be Supply till tb«
l^tb ol jiinuiry.
Tbcn adjottracd tjll the jth of Janmr/.
7«(i. 7. Received fevcral Peuaoas from Prironen con*
Efied tot Oabtin the Jiili of L3ncal>er. Jvelchedcf, Exeter,
iSori. Ludgaie, Ncw^te, WoodArecc ind Poultry Cuinp*
Ifen. praying Relief, tec. mbich wen ordered to lie ofi the
fTaMd.
Kead a ftrQ time, a Bill for the more eafy Jtecove/y of
itl Debt*.
Refolved. Ntmine rmtrmJirrntt, Thai ao bumble Addrela
prerentedio liii Mijclly, to congratulate hit Mijclly upM
[|hc incTC-ifc of the Koyal Family, by her Royil Highaefi
Ibe Pf riK<li a» Wales being happily dclivcied of a Pruicefj.
Aflotved, Nrutmi (9»t>adi<rnlt, 1'hai a coflgntulacory
■ge be fcnt to (lieir Royil HigbndTei cbc Prinec and
PllKeh of W«lci,an this happy Occafwa.
In a grand Committee wem thro' the MaliBiH, with
Efcveral Ammdmentf.
The 8th. Agracd to the Report of the Malt Bill, and
[otdcred It to be engrolTed.
Received the Report of hU Majefiy'a Aafwtr to their
MgraltiUtoty AddiWi, &c.
The 9th. Reccivad a PditioB of the CammilTKiarni for
jildirtg a Bridge crori the River Thamet at Wdlmtnllcrt
l^ra^ing for funiicr Sum* of Money to caahk them to carry
g iha fune. Rcferretl 10 ■ Committee.
The nth. Read a third time, and paflcd the Matt-Bills
'erderad h tothe Loida.
Received a great Number of Papers, &c. Ofdered to be
JrcAcd for on the >6tli of Noremberlaft.
Agrfld to the Report of the following kcrolutiom on the Several Dcfict*
\y, yia. Ktfolved, cKm 262;!. 41 jd. be granted toen^ica luiie
good the DHuievcy of the genml Fund for the Year V^"^
adlng at Michaelmai 1740.
That 5011I. 101. id. begraoKd, (0 replact to the Sink*
ig-Fund tlic like Sum paid qui of the fame, to make g(x)d
\m Dificitaty of the additional Stamp-Dutica m CfariAmaa
I7J9-
f %
That
14. Ceo
(36)
That 20,000!. be granted to replace to ibc SmUifigTl
the like Sum paid oat of the fame 10 the Back of Englaod,
for ntie Yc&t'i [ctercU of 500,000!. IcDt on CreUii of tJio
Sal: Daty, towards tbc Supply of the Year 1735.
Thai 3371 1 1. 81. 6d.be grartedtofcpl«cc tothc Sinking-
Fund, the like Sum paid out of the I'aine. co make good ih«
]3eliciency of the Duty of I u. per Barrel oa Sweets. &c.
at Mkhaclma* 1739-
Tbe t 3th. Read a firfi time, a Bill for opening a Ttwit
to and from Perfix thro' RulTia,
Read a Ucoad lime, a Bill for the more eafy Recovery of
(miU Debit.
'J he Hoafe made a farther Progrrfi on the Report of ite
Corn.Biil, and conCicrcd levcral Petitions concerning Ok
(unc.
The i4ih. Received a Petition of the Royal Afrku
Company of England, praying for a farther Supply. Or-
dered that [everat £riiiiiates relating to the iamt be laid
before the Moufe.
Jidadc a further Progr<rs on the Report of the Corn- Sill.
The 151(1. The Houfe Anillied the Report of the Corn*
BiU.and ofilered ic to be cngroH'cd,
The 16th, A Motion wm made, and the QacHton bong
put, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to explain »nd
amend an AA palled taLl Seflion to retrain the cxccfTive In-
crease of Horfcfijces; it pa&d la the N<gative, oa 1
DiviGun, Ayct i;.Noci t;8.
Received u Pcotion of the Dean and Chapter of St. Pe-
ter's, WeftaiinAer, pi-yingfuta further Sum towards the
Rcp^iriof the Cud CathedraJ. Referred to the Contmiitce
«a tiic Supply.
la a grand Committee went ihro' the Bill to amend the
£aw concerning common Recoveries, and to explain an Ad
:9ih King Charles JJ. for Fttrvencion of Fraoda and Pwju'
riei, To bra* the fame relates loElbtcs, f^r atUir Fitt with
feveral Ameudmenti.
The t9th. The Houfe proceeded to the hearing of the
FedtioD of John Dodd. £lq; complaining of an undue Ejec-
tion and Return of William Strode. Efqi for the Borough
of Reaiiing, in Berkihircj aod the Ccuofel were called in.
zod fcverai Witneffei for the Petitioner were examined at
the Bar of tbcHoufcj after which, the Cuuofel on botli
Sido were dircAcd to witliOraw.
Deferred the Call of the tioufc 10 the 3d of February.
The z6th. Relolved, That an humble Addrcfs be prt-
fmted to bit MaJcHy, for a Lill of fuch Commiilion and
Wjcn^it OSicn-s at are cofv ppon Half-pay in (he Nary,
to^etlicr
E
_ ( 37 )
,fT wirt) an Account of their refpeflive Ages, and the Anno i4,Geo.
to of their firft Cooimifioiis, and hi'W lung ifid how 11.1740.
icn they hfcK been employed, to lie Inid bel'ore (Iw Hoofe,
RccctVMl a Pcti(iCM) of divers Mcrchanlt, met Owners of
hip!, praying for leave to bring in a Bill for rxpUmtog
d amending zn Ac) t £lh of ^uectt Anne, ior proviiiing s
61 ic Reward forfucb Pcrfoo orPrrfont. a* (lull tiilcoTcr tfae
pgi;uJe .at Scj. : And ihc iJioc Wat xclcrred to a Com-
lOCS.
Heard Coafifel funber on ibe Merits of the Rnding
lecttoo; anU fevenl WitnelTef were <>Ued in. tnJ cxa-
jned, in order 10 difiguAlify the Votci for itie ftttJDg \lem-
bcr. Tboa tbe Couniet on both Sides were dirr£led to
ithdraw.
Tb< lilt. Rectived ao AccouRt, Qiewiog howiheMoitey
iven for tbe Setvin of tbe Year 1 740. hath been difpofcd
'. dillinguilhed under the (rveral HKids. una) tbe iQlh of
Jantuiry. 1740-41. and the Farti thereof rruuming unlatis-
fied. with ttic Overplui thereon.
Kccrived ipcdtionof the Painters of F-m Mounn in t nd
ibout the Ciiiea of London nnJ WcftminHer, Cetting forth,
^hat about three Years ago. Ici-eral Perfor.t procured Cop-
Pift^es lor tbe priotiDgof Fan-Mount<, by- which mcioi
Of of tbe Afullsxrr reduced 10 tbe uimoft l)il)re<5 for
t of Empluymeni 1 lh«it one Kngraver and two I'iinters
re able to lurnilh itioie prinird Fin Vlounii in a Monib'i
i^'ime, than this KingJuiii oiiikei uk ot in a Vex ; and one
etfon employed in the w&thing of tbclc pnnie>i Fan*
l«unu, wi:l colour tikore in three Days than one P.t)ntcr
a paiul io a quarter of a Year : Thai by the IntroduAion
of printed inflead at well piinted Mounts for Fans, the Ait
f painting Faa-Mountt, which %va< broogni togrejt Per-
ioorii grealty dilcour>g«J,and th< Exportiiioii of Panf,
ilh {mintOLl Mount*, wjiich brouglit into tbii Kingdom
largs &am of Money annually, almtill entirely lolt 10
GreiE Briuin: And therefore praying the Houfe to grant
tfacm fucb Relief, attotbcm Ai4Ul«eai ncet. Kcferied to
C'ommi'.tre.
Read a iirlt time, a 8jU to r:oder the Laws more effL-^linl
ilor preveotitig tbe Aealing aitd ddUoytng tbe Sbrcp aad
Oibar Cattle.
■ Received a Petition o( tbe Traflccs for cAabtilhing the
Colony ot V>corgia io Atnrrica. pnying for a fircbrr Suin of
Money, &c, Kc-'crred to tbe L'umniittec oa tbe Supply.
Rccrived favErat Etiinvatet of Accounts.
Tba tad. WiUiim Cooiey, (who wa comiDitied to Nevr-
utc 00 Dtccobcr tbe Second, for beiog the Aucbor ind Pub-
•^ liflwr
Scvenl Samj
graiUoL
_ C 38 )
Jjmo i4.Gro lifhrr ofa tiulfetom and fcuidalojii Libe\ entitlrd ConGdto.
U- '?40- niiions upon lit* Rntbirgo on f-c-riOan of Vi^ti,] ] wta
^■VNJ brcijgti: CO [h< Bur. and h;iving uj-on hi* Koe«« rcteh-Ml &
Kcprinuuid Iron) Mr SpCiker. uii order«il to bvdKclMrjed
out of Coflody. pA^icR tiit. Frcs.
Rcadnficit tune, 1 Bill to expliiii and tnendia AQ jd of
Kisg Jimri J. for the Recovery of SiuaU Debit, ud iariM
retievingof poor Dcbton in London.
Agreed to the Report of the U'U to Amend tbf Law coe-
ccTDing common Rccorciin, ud to exp'iin »>*i uMBd aa
AA 2^-h of Kiag Cbkjles II fur >*rcTc«ioR <if Knudi and
Fctjiinc &c OnJcred it to be engrolGxl
Agraed 10 th« Repon of ycllerdky't ]t(!->I<;:^ni 00 tW
Sopp'f, »ix
ReTolvrd. VhU 184,691!. io«. lod. brCrantrd (QbhM|.
jrfly for th« Ordinary uf tbe Nivy, including Hilf-pay «tf
ijca Ofiiceri fc 1741
That 1 15,12;!. 31 7d. be granted for the Chargr of iba
OfRce of Ojrfmnce for l^nd Service for i 74 1 .
That 76,0711. t». 4J. be granted fordefrajring the »«*«-
ordinary Axpcncc of tbe Office of Ordnanc* for Ljind Service,
net pravidM for hy Psrliuneat.
Tutz66>$i2L i6*. 5d. be granted for maincaiiag the
Yattfi in [he PUuuuoai, Minorca, Gibnltv, Geoigu, &c.
lor (741.
Tbai 4000I. be grawed towArdi re|ttiring the Collrgiait
Cbaidiof St. Peier'i, Wcdminfter.
The xjd. Hcird Counjcl farther on the Mrn'ta of tk«
Reading Ktcdion: And in order io<[ahliiy feme Perioitiwho
voted fur the iitling Member, Thomai Houfc prodnced ■
CcitificJite ligned by (wo Jullices of tbe Peace ; and tkt
Coanfcl for ine iitting Member hiring obje^led to the Ad-
niAon of that Paprr m evideacc, the Hand writing of tb«
fud Jul'.icci not being pfoved . and the Counfcl for the Peci-
lioner having beea heard by way of Replj : The Conaiel eft
both bidrt were dirrfled to withdraw.
Aksr Pibat«, It waa Refolved, That a Paper dated 291^
Match. 1728, purporting to be a Ccrtilicate from th« Pahfll
of -Woodley m the Coumy »f Bcrkf, to the Parifh of St.
Liwrenrc in the Borough of Keading, figned by two Jtffticct
of the Peace, aUoiving the faid C'enthcate. and now pro(hico4
by Thomat Hoofe, wbo lAi lor bit Brothrrai an Overfeer of
the Poor of the did Parilh of St. l^wrencf. b« edniltvd 10
bcrtad IB EvtdfBcr, aliho' the Hiodwritiog be not pcovoA t
Oaa DiirifioD, Ayca 14;, Noei 144.
TbcCom-ftill '^^ '^^' '^'^ ' ^^'^ ^'°''' '*"* F*fed the Bill to
I nttbi. proh'bic ht ■ Tun* tbcrcift United, the EsportBtinn of
L Corn.
ProcredniKa
00 tbe hw-
iOg ElOdUML
J
( 3>)
irntl, fRi«exif««Ij Meal, ITslt, Floor, Bread, Anno u, i
, Stvcb, ii«l, Pcirk. ^-d Bicon t and ortkrcd jt lo che "• >7-40-
I a facoad dac ifac BiU for prcveatuig Sheep. flea) ing.
JH^. Wailfr iftrf^ thr ft/l^aiit^ MtHim in /Th/h^, Motion for
J3«f mm kmmbie .imirtft kg frtftmtid t* hit Mi^tfij^ that ht two Lettcn
m^iti* ■= ■;'/»V Stctlary vf Statt t9 Admiral Had-
Aci, **■■ I '• *.«• iittu Addr^Jftdfar it/art, amdt/' tbr Ltntrt
rmnvdfwtm Admtr^dQgU mmnnfd tbtftm; u^lJttr%vii^
mf: ' -■■ umitm hf Admirml Hatdtt/cie iithtrtfbu JHW-
j:\_ ..Tin i/Sutr, nmrrnim $ht faid Lttttri, amd
tkt tuf^sr'tmtftit Q'J*ri nntaimtd thtrtia.
Drbkte
S.B.
No Mar who confiden the prrfenr Sinntfon of our Af mj. Wiii«,
U> Ljtpeoc<i><d Irnefiicjcy of o-jr Miliurj' Piejurs-
ite Appnniict of Negligence in our Navjl £xprdr.
tbc gmrt^l Ditnj>poinrrreiit of the Hope: which
kad conceived of ViAortes, Vengeance, and Rc-
car, in tny Opinjoo, doubt the Eipcdienc^ of tlie
iwkkti I havr islten the Liberty to make.
Wfe«a the EzpefUfioni of the Naiioo sm deceived, U
becotD'-.i ihofirwhoare depatcd to watvh over the
*r "' ;M Pabllc, to enquire whence the DirRppoint*
', and either lo infbnn iheir COnHituenti thac
.ocuuricia Kitio l(om ttrtif OWD £fror, aod that TheU
l*rcd<llioy(d t^tcftu'r liic)' hadnomtionai Foancfaiioa t
M 4cMtt iti« vvrsk »: ni^ement of ibofe 1^ whom the
MMiart» have brrf< .1 condufkd, or the oational
ba* been BiiU|<r> led.
• Wka fCjprJ, S|i. «■ uic pTWrnt War, T know not how
iha NadoB on b>- baring fbnned unrrifon-
lblsE*p«Aa:lioa* '.^nA (he S[>e<ch from ths
ThrOM «■ tbr molt u ^ci..K- iJecUrJlioQ nf ihe Intent:oni
rfAeGowernntent. thrv t'Uind rhf re (he warmeft Rflcntmcnc
iba U)one» Mrfaich ibey hud luimmet, and the flroDgeA
%J I ngotoiu frai'mi'ion of ^sll ihofe Meadircs
aigbc pfodtKc 'pMil)' Rccompence and tnrioUble
ity-
Iftfctf rflicA. Sir, oo the Prepinttoni for War. on the
of SLtpt, the Demand of Mitrrialt for Naval
and the hi^h Prioei m which Workmen were
xeuioei
( 40 )
AfUM 14, Ceo KtaineJ, tbty canld ant bat iatdgiAC that either rome irttgtf-
ey Ancmptwasddigned, orlomc formidable Etwmjr dmtlc<}|
aod ai thty ki>ow hoc whom they h.>d lofrai.ibcy klcribed
the Vigunr of oar Procreding* 10 a Rerduiion of bumblinf i
our Kiictnm by one dal Blow, and icellablifbing our N«ml
DotntnioD by a Tingle £9on.
* And juflly. Sir, might ihcy indulge ihh pleallng Tbu-
ginatKHi.with Rcaloa might ihey anikipuEe aTriumphover
an Eftrmy whofe Strengrn bears no proponion to (he Foftc
that wat Aned out agajnft ibera. >nd cxped thit in a few
MoQtlii ttaey fttould fee the E^mbailidofi of Spiin (upplica*
tiogfor Peace.
• To raift their ExpeAatiofli ^et higher, their Tndeww
fkirpendal by anEmburi^o. Iimg coniinued, anil >ncbel\riA«A
Manner eiifdrced, ami the Inipreltei were let ioofe upon lh«
Sailors [ t)iry faw nothiog omitted, however gricvou* to the
N^ition. that could con:ribute to make ii formidable, ud
bore I'ait of the Miferiei of War wiihsut Itapatic&ce. ia
Hopei of being rewarded by military Glory, and repaid hf
the rinnder of Spini.
' But. Sir, when folonga Time kai cUpfed, and do Ac*
count » brought, of either a Vtfiory or a Bictle. when litej
bear nothing but (hat our Fleeu hive vtfiied fereral rcb-
iraJ Port*, uid thofc of the Eoemy failed umnoletled from
CoaA to CoaO, ;>--<d when they are every Day told of ihs
Lolfciof our Mci:hant9,whoare inlulicd in our own Channel
by the Spanilh Privaiecrt, and receive no Relatiooi of our
Succefk upon the Sb»rci of our Enemtci, can it be woa:!ereil
that they fufpc^L the Kcaliiy of our Dcfigna. or coqair*
whence it procecdiihat their Money has been waAcd, their
Tntdc intcriupied. and the liberty of Uieir FcUow-Subjeftl
invaded to no Purpoie f
■ But how much more juftly. Sir, are they inflamed whes
tbry bear of the liKky Stratagem i, or daring Eaterprizei of'
ihok Enemies, which a. jull Scafie of their own Superiority
IukI itiJutrd then to conlider a» vanquiihed before the Bac*
tic, and ot wtiom they hjd do Apprehenitoni but that thdrj
Cowardice would always fccurc them from Vecigeanee )i
Ilowjulily may ihcy murmur when ihcy read chat our Flecu
leave cvriy Part of the Eneinv'4 Coall where their PrelcDcc
ii neccfliry, and have affijrded (he Sptntaids an OpportnaitX'
of changing one Port tor anuther, ai it ia mofl coflveiucat.|
and at Icngin of joining the French Squadrons, and lailinf <
to the Delencc of tlirir Aoierican Dominioni. |
■ • May they no; jul^Iy, Sir, require of their Keprefeatatinal
foine ftcalbn for ioch inexplicable Condud f May they oot!
raronably dcsund u Accouu of th« Arguntrnta whkbl
procured
I
r 4i )
pronred their Apprpbation of Meafures, which, fo far asAnnou^deo,
ihcy can be examined by thofe who have no Opportuni:/ H' n-¥*-
af fcnifing the neccflary i*apers, appear cither cow.:rJ.y or K^/^y^^^
UCKbennis f
• And what Anfwer. Sir, can we return to fuch Rrmon-
fliancn, aniefs this Motion be agreed to i How can wc z^p-
peife the Dilcontenti of our Conllitucnts, ordifcM.rge the
7>att repofed in ut, without a very minute an<i dtceniive
Eaqairy intu QucIlioDi thus obfcure, and chui, important.
• Arc we are to tell our Conllituents, thnt we abfolutely
leljr npon the Prudence and Fidelity of the MiniiEry and
Admirals, and recommend to them ihe fHrne implicit Depen-
dnce i Arc we to confcfs that wc have now for iwoSi^lTions
need in the dark, and approved what we were not I'ul&red
10 cmmiac andunderfiand ?
• Such Anfwers, Sir, to Quellicns To reafonable, will not
csBtribnie to increafe the Veneration of the People either
far oarfclvei, or our Conftitution ; and yet this Aofwer, and
bit only, they can receive from us, if the Papers men-
doocd in the Motion i have made are denied.*
Mr. Clutterbuck.
■ Thii Motion, tho* fo warmly urged, and fo artfully j||. ciuttei*
fapportcd, I can confider only as a Repetition of a former biK^.
UdtioB which was approved by this AlTembly, fo far as it
amid properly be complied with, nor was any Paper then
CBOcealcd which it would not have been an Injury to the
Nation to have divulged.
■ If the Defign of this Motion be to promote the Succefs
of the prefent War, and the Ze:il, with which it has been
prefled, be ircitrd only by the Ardour of true Patriotifm, I
doolit not but it will eafily be withdrawn, by thole who ;ire
vcm Boftly inclined to fupport it, when they {hall reflet
that it teods to the Di-cuvery of our Schemes, and to the
Overthrow of our Defigns, that it will expofe ull our Con-
Utationa to our Enemies, and infituA them I'low to annoy
(iwith mod Succefs, and how tn flielter themfelves from our
landed Attacks.
■ It is the 6rft Care, Sir, of every Adminiltration, that
Acir military Defsgiis (hould only bf dilcoiered bv the
EnntioD of them, and that their Enemies, by being obliged
npard all Parts, (hould be weak in all : If by laying our
hsen before this Hcufe, the Spaniards (houlJ come to l>e
Mnmed agiinlt what Part of their Dominions our Kxpe-
dttioM are defigneH, will they not increafe their Strengih^
iBrove their Fotttfications, and double their Vigilance r
Vol. VII. G and
(4*)
Annoi4.C«o.Bnd if we aretbui obliged to form ftCwSchemM.mufl wr not
. 11.1740 impute the Defeat of (he foriner 10 out own imptudcK
'""'''^^l^^''^ Zc<tl,or unfeafonabic CunoCiy t
Mr. Sandyv.
Si I,
Sjni SnJyf, < Thai wc (hou^d dcmiiHl the Scbcoifs lahl for the futon
£i()t Contiufl wf tlie Warwiib !>p»iti wai ocvcr piopoied, aot, u
ic may teiiooMy be cuocludiJ, ever iinaginciJ; for wbit »
Uicniiuncd in the Moticii but the I'apcts icUimg to cbi
'J i^nU^lion* flf the two UA Yttn ?
* TlMi U Oiould be ncccirarr to remiml Gcnilemeo of thfl
t)iK:rcnccbci«recrf \\\t /utuit 4mJ the /<«/f, wuuld bard'y be
fufprUeJ by any Man not acciillotncd to )j<%rliuincntary Con*
ttoviit'iC3 aiid Aitificci (jf Sidie ; and yet to the Argumm
tohicli lui been oScred sgAiull the Motiuti, notbing hui bcui
fcdeticd, but that the Orders relating 10 palt T ran (aft 1001 art
not 10 t>e WA before ui, \<i\ the Enemy QiotiM thereby g&io
Jntclt^gence uf uhat v^e now dciign sgiinll them.
* 'I'be NcccHity of Secrecy in War nee<lt not tobeorgcdi
bccatifc it Will not be denied ; but when Dcfigni have bvro
laid, and miKarned, the Realons of that Milcarii^ge may
fiue'y be enquired into without Danger of betraying ibe
Councili cf ouf L'oantry.
* If the Negligence of caeCourcils, and the Mifcondod
of our Lumm^irdcis has been {uch, ih^t no Dcfigni baft
beet) preit)cUil3ted ; ifa Wir hai been carried on by Chance,
and RotbiDg tin lucctcded bccaulc Dothlug ha» been attempt-
ed i if our Commanders have not done iU, and hkvc oBfy
done r>oihiogi if they hive avoided Lo[i by avoiding I>io-
gcr, we may lurely enquire 10 whom fuch froceediagi %n
to be in puttd, whether the Defeat uf our Dcligni is 10 be
charged u|-on the Strength ol the Enemy, or IbcCowaidicc
of uui Ofiii.crk ; or wjiethcr tli« Joaftivicy and appaiest'
Nculraliiy ci bar Forces is occkfiontd by ihe Neghgcbcc-of
our Admirals, or the Inefolutlon of our own Mjiiiilry.
* TTere have been, Sir, many Inci^cnu in tbefe two !aft
Ycan. of which the Examination can be of very tittle Ad>
vaiicige to the Spniardt 1 I do not know what pemirioui
Intelligence thry e^n glean Irom an Enquiry into the Rc^
foiu for wi.icli H«ddock'i Fleet was divided, and Ogle &at
lu the Defence of Miaoica* ox for wlti^b be aUenvtrdf
tcturncd.
* Nor an I conceive that any Advantage, except that of
Mernmentund DiveiCon, can bcthigwn imo the Handa of
Our Cncmicir tho* we flioulJ leriuuHy enquire tetowhat 00
Man U* y<tf(Cteodcd 10 unJcnUnd, the wood«ful tkape
(43)
1
Iroa, A Tnnrjfl'ott on wtilch ive had Annnrt,Ge^
w(h (hit Admiraiion which Ignorance '' '"!¥*•
'which « nuy dk be improper at Icngtli C'VNiJ
io cubic Oft to rafon.
■ Ilia h an A^ir perhaps murh better undcritond by mir
ftacMia thin by ojrlelves, and rarely we cannot therefore
■Aild of infKRiin|> iheiD of it; At kitll 6iKe the FKxt
ifMg fivrt likilcd out ind iert tbeir Ctult, we can li»d y
: '-. oar En({uiriek by tbe t-Var of difcovering oar
<.-e it bribe nnconEcllBble Rigbt of the Houle
::& .If Candud of public .A&irs, which J luppofa
kmrcriy be denied, ttti> Mmion cannot be rrjeiXcd si
bafafoimbie. nor c«n the Papen be refufed without mcreaf.
; l]Mfe &ifpkioa( whictt already are too prtvalent througk-
. th« f<J4iton.
Nor in4ft<i, far oar owo Uke%. ought we todeUy tbit
uy longer, leli b^ biving langa^J wjthoutbcing
ittablc, tbe Minitler IbouM (\3tm a I'tcfcription againit
ite^e, ind in Time tell nt in plain Terms thai we are
im.jnd that we are noetic preiume to cany onrExa-
laa, however foteoiD and iniporlaoi they may contJ*
to appear, further than be (hr.ll be plealed to permit i
that wK4(ever miy be the Op'nion ol (He People that
one 01, or whatever antient C&imi ive may plead to
llmiiy. •« are now to confidf^r ourfelven only as the
I af the Nation, and the I'AnegyriDt of tbe CourL'
Mr. Horatio Walpo^c. V
»r iBU|
iise
lonot be denied to be reafonahV that all thole Papers
be laid bcfc»e the lloole which can be comtnutiica;ed ^[j) Y*^*?'**
Injiwy to tbe Public. Of this Number we may '"^
iBugine the Ordert Tent to the Admiral), in which llic
oi rneir Oepnnorc is fixed, arvd many others which
may be cf Ufe (o inform the Houle, butcannm enable the
Cocaiy to judge either of oar Foice, or our Ocilgni
• Hot ft ifc evident thit there muH be otbcrj included fn
Ab Motioti. whKh ou/ Rtgard for the Sjcccfi of the War.
aad the Profiterity of oor Country, ought to determine oi to
cooceal. ana fuch ai are never expoft^ by any AdtDinjflra-
On i u i* therefore proper to Ibsit tbe Addrefs to Pipcts at a
ocfBln kind, or a rerrair. I>atr, which may be coafiiiered by
cW Hoafe wiihom Benefit to our Enctniet, and for the Exz-
BiiuMitol whiciia Oayormowillbcmortthasrdfficicoc '
(44)
Mr Pulteney * ' know not what Number of Papers the Witaom c(
' thr AdminiilratioD will allow lu, but, if we jadge by tbi
Time propofed to be fpent in ExuniDition, we flail Mtfat
diflrafied with a great Diver£(y orSubjeAsj IntelligcM
will be very penurioufly dealt oar^ and if we fubmit to tkar
Choice of the Writings, which Ihall be laid beibre ui, na
Enquiry will probably end without any Difcoveries tiak
either by our Epcmies, orourfelvct.
* But, 1 hope. Sir, we Ihall not be fo cheaply ratiafieil,H
expofed by the Fear of one Enemy, to the Infolence of u-
other. I hope we fliall refolutely continue our Demaadsof
Information, while a fmgle Line is concealed, from which
any Light can be cxpefled.
* There may indeed be Circumftances in which oor Tkr
m^nds, however loud, wiil necefTaTily be vain. It ii aH
jmpoHible that we may fufped tbofe Tranfa&ions of d^
An, and fccrec Ccncrivance, which have been the Ctak-
quences of mere Indo'encc, and Want of Confidezadol.
Our gieut Miniflers have been, perhaps, only doing nothia^
while we have imagined that they were working oat «
Sight.
' Milled, Sir, by this Notion, we may call for the Oidep
that have been difpaiched in thefe two U& Years, whea fM^
haps our Secretsri^^ of State have been fattening ob ttdlf'
Salaries, without Employmen t, and have llept uithout C^lt
and without Curioficy, while we have been congiatolltim
ourfeives upon their Vigilance for our Prefervation.
* Or if O.ders have been given, it is to be co.Bfidaldl(|
that the End of infpefling Orders is to compare them lri#
the Conduifl of the Admirals to whom they were dircfillf-
from this Comparifon I doubt not but many Gentbeaioi
expefi uncommon Difcoveries ; but to check all UDreafoi^l|r'
Hopes before they have taken PcfTcfiion of their Hearts,. fijjrj
unrcafon^ble Hopes are the Parents of Difappointmeoi^'ti
think it proper to remind them, that to draw any Coa(|i|i i
ftons from the Orders, it is neceJTary to nnderftand thCB.
' This Confideration alone is fufficient to reprefi th9 ,
dour of Enquiry, for every Man that has had Oppottiuii
of knowing the wonderful AccompIiHiments of our Mr mi
Jtry, the Depth of their Defigns, the Subtitcy of their 8^$)'^
tagcms, and the Ctofenefa of their Reafoning, will •
conceive it probable that they might fend fuch Ordei. .
none but themfelves could underAand ; and what then willl
(he f onfeguence of ouridle Curiofity, but, that we mj \m k«
\ iuD a Libyrintli of endlefs Conjcftures ? For we have long Anno 14, Geo.
I igo found, that no Exptanatioos afe to be expelled, and II. 17 40-
[ Uit ojr M'lnirtry are too wife to difcover their Secrets to 1/%'''\J
I their Enemies.
■ Lti us, therefore, examine the naked Fa£ls, which have
fitllu withia our Obferrationiand endeavour to inform our-
fe/m of the Meaning of thefe fecret Orders by the Execution
of :hf m.
■ Admiral <^le was dirpatched from Haddock's Fleet to
prated Minorca, and in his Abfencc the SpaniOi Squadron
failed away. Perhaps he was ordered to watch Ferrol and Mi-
loica at the Ume time, and not underllanding how that was
I Icbe daoe, neglcAed what was to be done, neg!c£led one
' part of his Charge by an Attention to the other ; as a Watch-
nan who fliould be employed to gu^rd at once the Bank in
London and the Treafury in WcHminfler.
* Adoitral Norris, Sir, failed lately forth, I fuppofe in pur-
i (uKc of Orderf, with a very formidable Fleet, and after
hiring loft Sight for feme Days of the Britifh Coall, failed
back again with great Preci^it.iiion. Whether his Orders,
were only to laii forth, or whether when he epcamired them
farther he couJd not underlland tlicm. I pretend not to deter-
mine : bat it may rcafonably be imagined that his Orders •
were of the fame kind with thofe of our other Admirals, be-
caofe they produced the hnie Con(ie(]uencc<i.
' I have been told that formerly our Commanders were
•rdered to burn, link, and dedroy ; and that in thofe Times
if Wis not uncommon for a Britifh Admiral to do much Mil-
cUef w cb a Arong Fl?et : but it is evidrni that the Stile is
fiooecbangcd, 'or Admirals are now very Inoffenfive, and
p oat only to come back. I therefore think the Motion
highly necelDry. andfuch as ougtit to be complied with.'
Admiral Norris.
Sia.
' I am not cosfcioin, that my Conduft in any Part of my Admiral
IJfehasnpofed mctobc juflly treated with Contempt ai^Monis.
Uicale, and what I have not deferved I will not bear.
' If any Gentleman in this Houfecan accufe me of having
*^kfled my Daty or deferted ic, lee him not fpare Infutts or
'■■cAivei, let him now expofe my Cowardice or my Oire-
((ftefs, kc him prove me unworthy of IVull or of Command.
* Batny own Confcience acquits me, and I defy any Man,
iBpradoce and fapport his Accufatioo ; nor can you. Sir, *
"to have ihu contempiuoufly treated me, alledge any Th ing
againlk
* jUirtffii% bimfilf t» Mr. Pa/t^nej.
i
(4^)
Annoi4,Geo againit me that may juflify your Negled of Deceacj; M
II J740- you have rranfgreflcd the Rules of t)eceiiC7 is the fofteft Ctr
i/'V~^ fure that your Behaviour admit!, and I think it may, wid
equal Propriety, be aflerted, that you bxn iMrolun the Lm
of Juflice."
Mr. Pulteney.
6lK,
Will. Ta'te. ' I Ihall fubmit to you, and all who hear me, Whctherl
ney^Kjqi have treated the honoarabte Gentleoian's Name with Uf
contemptuous Freedom of Speech. The ufcal Mctlw'
of mentioning an Expedition, is that of naming the Cini-
mander, who is not thereby neceflarily included in the Oa-
fure of an uofuccersful Attempt and I am very far fram cal-
ling his Courage, and Capacity into QuefUon.,
* Not that ] Oiall ever think it neceuary to make an Apo-
logy for expreCmg my Sentiments with Freedom aa a Mea-
ber of this Houfe, in which I fhall always fpeak whatt
think, and in what Manner it ihall appear to me moft proper ;
nor fhall I fear to repeat without Doors what I (ay here.'
Sir Robert Walpole.
SlK,
Sir Robert ' As I am nor acquainted with any Meafores purfiied ly
Val|x>le. the Adminillration which it is their particular Intcrcft If
conceal, I am defrous that all Papers Ihould bejaid be|bR
the Houfe which will not nffard our Enemies any Opam-
(unity of obviating our Defigns.
* What NeceiSty there it for this Addrefs, I cannot iMdMf
difcover.becaufe I know not any Foundation for SaQiflciBB
of either Negligence or I'reachery, which have be<u b|ji|
infmuated in this Debate.
* Nor are the Miniflry, however ludicroufly their Abililia
have been treated, afraid of difcovering their Ignoranei, b -
laying before the Houfe the Orders which they have tjtwm
to our Admirals, Orders of which they are far from Joi^^m
that they will appear, upon a candid Examination, ndhgS
and proper.
* The chief Objeftion to this Motion arifes from ka'Qll^
feafonablenefs, and the Neceflity which it will prochlqf '^
afligning to a fruitlefs Enquiry thofe Hours that ttOfW-
more ufefuJy employed.' « .
Mr. Pit. ' -
Silt,
Mr. Fir.
* It is my Opinton.thatourTimcca'nnotbemorfttftfiij^
employed during a War, than cxamioing how it ^a boM
, aid intliog th< Degree of Con6<lcnce ihit may Anno n. Geo
W txftfiti in ibolc to whoTeCdtc ire catiollcci iNir Rcpuu- ^^ "-^
Mfti^Mr Foruinet, aixl our L'ves. K.^'y^\^
• TWrc ii not any Knquir^, Sir, of more Importaace ilian
ttni u ii nui A <.^llioa aboui an unccrUtii Privilege, or a
Ln. libicb iftound inconvenient majr ttcraftcr be repeated |
MUCftuMi to <<(iininc whether it i) probibte (h.u we Dull
•reteme our i -: aiiJ our Indepcndar.cr, oi'whecbcr
<^ Kic finkjr '. icAion lo a lurcign Power.
• But '. •r.Si:, will proJuce njgrcjii lalataMiaa,
l^oic w> iuQ iteX'imincJ.zre ^^Ijwed to MeH ib«
vidcoce. for what Accuuiic will tliry exhiOlt but fuch ll
Me ofienalreiJ}r been aid before U5, and fuK.ti a»ttiCy now
tftir without Concerr. Account^ otjfcure and rJlacioOi,
InpcrWt jndcucfukd j from vWkU nudiinccAii be learned i
umI whicJiua orrercaiulf (tie MinJlUf tu Prtiife, tha'chcy
I Buy icttta him from PuitiQimi;nt.*
Si 1.
• ! - ^^J<oE(hnt no man engaged io the Adminillr* ^^i^- *«'*^"**-
pen. be krcened from the nioit iigoroiu Enquiry,
•r w<..h; .liter (o exhibit the Papers 4 MocncBC jar any
ot^r Rcifoa than Kit Regard for the Public.
• I am caiihJcni. ibat nutbing could (o much conttibate
10 adnnce the juriicubr and djllir.it Inicccilof (hcMimllry
i "' -fjlicaiion of all the Wniirgi that relate to the pit-
r, by which ic would iDcunicfldbly appear, that no-
tutbcTD umiited thauouid ptomoie our Succe^^ tltac
__ Ruindcri have been fcnt out wich Orders loitt with
fltnoft' Vigour, and ilut our Prepar4tioni have not been
4ifpro;v3TtionrJ to the Ituporttincc of our Defi^oi.
• ; that no former Mioidry have given
pe>;. heir 'Aral for the public Imereil, or have
■•R iiead4;y pariued the rooll proper Alcafurct by which tc
w|^ be adMored.
• 1 aot noc indeed certain ibac thofe who now call To loudly
di iaittaa^tioa would be prevailed on by any Degree of
Irldcaee to {uipend tfaeir Ccnlure}. Tf'Cm. w)io ate cow
tifatttficd, 1 (h'lt delpairof intiuetiC'Dg bf Rearui) or Tclli-
■■ey : for ihey iecm to enquire cr'y to condemn ; oor w
<Ui Uotioa perikap made d much for the fake of obtaining
HrBMioo. a* of karntflingthe Mintlliy wuii Delaya and
^cadJof AfUui of greater JmporisncT-'
Obdsfcd u Addrefi to Hii Msjefly, fct Copiei of the
Lciteri
• ( 48 )
Anno i4,Gro Letttn written lo nod recctrcd from the Admiralt, Haddock
M_J740- aotl Ogle, in ij J9and 1740. to belaid bcfurr ihem.
""^'^ Alio fcr 1 t'ypy of !lie Rcafoni frnt b/ ArTniral Caven*
diOi, in I'unuance a/ an Order T'Om th« Admiralty, OAobcr
the 12th. 17^0, thai had rrtirdcd the failing of Sir Chala^
ncrOglc'sSquadron. fo much bej-ond Expra^tion.
AUo for a Copy of the Rcafoni tranlmit:cd by Sir Clu-
lonrr Ogle, in Purfuftnce of an Order from the Duke of
Newcalilc. Oflobcr the 23d, 1740, ihat did prevcot him
from failing puifumi to hi* repeated Ordcri (or thut Pur-
polc i aod pitticalnrly to ttiofc f«nt him by the Commif-
fioners ol the Admiralty, on the i4ihof Oclober, 174O.
Heard Countcl farther on the Merits of the Readirg
Elcflion. and fevenl Wiincffei were exmnined j and the
ftv-loluiionof the rioufc of the 4th of December, intb«7ih
of Queen Anne wat read, whereby it was relolvrd. That
fuch Perfonj as hud within iwo Years luR received Ken-
dnU('i (.'bariiy. or any other annoal Charity, dittributed in
|Ne fjid Borough, bad not a Right to vole in EtcAioni of
BurgeiTct m (rrve in Pailinmentfor the titd Borough.
1 he 27th. Rc3d 3 6rft time, a BiU for liccnfing the Im-
portation of Victual from Ireland, and other Parci beyond
the Seal into Scotland, In Time of Ocaiih and Sir-irciiy.
Rr.-ri J thirJ time, and paiTed the Bill lo amend the Law
concerning common Recoveries ; and lo explain and anend
•n A& l^th o£ Kirg Charles II. for Prevention of Fnodl
and Perjuiies, fo far ai the fame relates to KlUtes, prr autrr
fifi oidcred it to the Lonlt,
Dehireontl.c ^^^^^ ' ^^^ t'™^< ' * ^i" ^"^^ *^^ Encouragement and Ib«
t««r]d Rrtd. cte:)fc cf Seamen, and for the better and fpecdicr manniag
■T**'' 'i**B *"" ^'^jcly's Meet. And a Motion bctcg made for in be.
^ *'■*''* '■ ing read a frcoodtime, it occafioned ibc following Debate.
Mr,
* The HtaJi tf tbt faii BiU v/r/ ai fttlav:* : ** Th^
tvtrj Ml SfiimaB if.'h Jbalif-ave tfomntmritf ffrvtJmitmr^
ihf Ruyit !^avj ikt Sptttt tf Tftl't, firall hf ttitititd la
tt>t ytfij PiMjim rf , aa/i/ bt Jbail bi ^rwidtd
/>'/• tbe Rtjal H J^iU/ fir Sfamn. Ti'at ttt ihjvw rf
tvety Stmmaa^ latdif the Otjtttuf a ITarramt wr C*mmtfi»m-
C^ttr, *.*» ruttTfJfoittntatih, mufi'.-ai tUltd n- Jrfifcmtd im
tot Sfrvhr. Jhall rttti-ut m Sam rf Msniy, rfmivatimt t* Pat
tear'i ff^agei rf fiith Sruman *tf^t lit ^tfiuti rf Ttmn^
IS(. fi^Ii, u^m P' ' ' Jtiair, tjf:^ Mt H'arrantJ ts lit
CaaH<3l>!ts, WajU 19 f^nth^ bf Day er Js'iiht, Jmr
till f suit Sramtw «r titaJariB^ mti ^ jkaii vnihdram tr na>
(49 )
Anno 14, Gh).'
it. l7^/>.
Mr GtbboQ, t
• I lUiK httn iJwajri Woght thil rhf diftinguifhlng Feli Mr Gibbon
Cy af ibii Nilion ii general Liberty. Librrty n.5t conliijci lJ<b»'c
cki ki^htlX Cbfic* of Men. but diffulcd thro' the whole **"^''™'
of (be ppnplc: For the PrclrrVatiun of ihit^nur An-
ha»e Sruggfnf in every Age; anJ *or this onlj' are
V»u Vlf. H [be
^CdmfmiUj, i^t. JtaU hnH^fuch Pfrfimj a, thnfiallof-
juh Zt^^ta «r Sttfjaftn^-mfn, jImU taaft thtm /« h/ lifimmJ
mr tv tht ferfom af}*t»u4 U rtttivt mmi nnJm.1 thtm, to If
tmwpiJ «« hh Mmjt/iyi Sta Srrviet. That ia KniJn^ futh
/rvnf/ ^MfY^ it foii! he /aivfai fir fl/e jttii O^'eri mf~
fntrJ im makt /W fantr. ta tnUr eirf Hajifi •vuhtre ihtj fiall
/t^,-: -imtm a tt t»u.:taUd\ amd if EiiraiKt ht mt
*imdi-. -J item. th.'M i!t firtt tftntht D««n tf futh
Ib^, *'* t^Mf tt mtik* Jmik Sturtb Viat /mhCen^aife}^
tfr. Jkmii a/fftar tt/nri tht /aid ynfliets, (Jtt. and giif A(-
3«cf •'' tht kMtemlmi »(' il't ttJpeSivt l¥'a*ranfi and Ptt-
aft$ t* fftfm JiifSrd\ amd tli ft'd JuJUetj ^all i>t tmpvw.
r*jtt» f**'fi tbtwi f*f attj h'-g'f^, Cfl'/ffM'rtiw^, 9r tnhtr Of.
p9tt m fee ^frrarmanr' 9f bit Mejtfiyi Sfr^'icfS in flit Pre-
tf^. Ihat I >, ar uhrr O^eer, fhail bavt at
t tlnasrd fir r -^ and fiCuriK^ fucb Seamtm. Thar
v^tofT J^U frtf^nt tt horb«ar »f naitataay fitth Sfamaa,
m mtffititr d» avf tbim^ U iiadtr or ftufiratr the Z*anh. tr
mUt oMf Secmsa tt rm dw«y frtm Ait Cci),fitA*r, fgr rwry
pd Q^Kt J»aU Vfat ikt Jujften
if tht Pta.t, iZ/{. J^aJJ rrhihii am Acrft tf lb.- Pi'am/i tf
l*r f. -.' ""ftirj hrtmfht hfftrr thtm, tvtih the P/»tt tvhtrt,
fit 1 a»y tct Oj^,'fri hf itfAew 'uch Prrfmt imrt
e^d tf thr CtiJwiitri tt ivvvm fmh Pfrfini '■.itrt
That a Rt^fifr fhaiihi afj^muJ ta be kfpt i» /6*
m Adrntf^/r^Opif, whfrf the Nam/t af rvtfj Ptr/on
fimfnfid ^atl ht eMtrtd, and tht Shif thty turrt to ftrve
%^at _(£ ''^ptar if ftuh Ptrfa -xxai aduaUi tnttrtd
■ te JWiv : :tr, and tmrrnmej tn the fame. Tlat tht
My^f.d AM tte f/Jl Vtc af Its frtffit Majfj)\ . ftr ercou-
«1»| S«UMn K> tnKt into his Mjjcfty't S*Tvtce. tuhtrtfy
*«MBt em uhe Jkid Seri'ire <an hi arrififd fir n Drht temder
Ml Pan p far tah Eftit, and he in Fartt tt tht iungdmm
tfMndtfftm hhnlfihtt$tb» 1741.
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Anno 14. Gen the prefent Burden of Taiccs born without Sedition, and al-
'^ '74"- moil without Compiniar. Whilewe pn-uiic. or fincy that
^^"tT^^ we preicrvf, our Liberty, we luok withcuc Lr.vy on the
Power, the WVilih. and Proi'pcrity of the Slaves of arbi-
triiry Monarchs. We account no Mun pro.'perous whofe
HappinelV does notdepti'd upon hh own Condufl, and Ihculd
think it Fo) y to heap Wealth together, which niighc be
taken away without our Conient. For fear of lofir.g this
great Privilege, we have endeavoured, at an imm^nfe Fx-
pence, to prevent the enaimous Increale of any foreign
Potter, by which we migr.t in Time be fwjUowed up, and
rtduci:d to the Idine StJte wi:h tlic Province*: on the Conti-
rent. To thi^ End we niife Armies and bui'd l-iceti, and
poar into ihc public 1'ie:ifury the Produce of our Lucds,
and the (Jiiin of cur Commerce. But to wiul Purpofe are
Our Liibouis, our Dangrn, and our Expenccs to obviate the
Defigns ot lorcign Ambition, if we lutFcr Slavery to fteat
upon us in the rorm of Lsm, and impair our Liberties by
tlie Means empluyed (odifkiid it.
* Jf till; only Ule of Armiti and Fleets be tofecure Free-
dom and I niie pendency, nothing furcly can be more ab^'urd
than [o raileihem by Metho-s ot Oppreffion and Violei.ce;
nothing can be weaker ttian to kiid .Men to fght for that
l^ibtirty., of uhich we have deprived tbeni.
* That the Bill noiv bifore us reduces Multitudes of oar
Fellow Subj-'fls to the Milcricscf Slavery, to the Malice of
private, lurking Iriformers, and the hatcfii! Infiilts of pet^
.AiiChcrity inuii appear to every Man that hears it. It cod-
dcnins tho e who have dedicated their Lives to the moJl
uitfui Employment, and walled their Strength in the moll
important Service of their Country, to be hunted like Beatta
ot Prey, or like Murderer? ;:rid Felons, whom a is the com-
mon Interelt of M-inkii.d to fearch out and to deHroy,
* Let any Man, Sir, or.cc be c>.Iled a Seaman, let any
Alan once become the Objed ct' public Rclcncment, by hav-
ing ccntribjted to the \> calih and Honour of his Country,
and at lail, from We^rinefs of Labour, Sitiety of Profit, or
fear of Oppreiiion, incline to fpeud [he reft of his I.ile ia
Peace, the Hue and Cr> ihiU be raifed againU him. Strata*
gems (hall be contrived to entrap, or \'ij!ence employed to
conllrain him : he (hall be purfued by tlie Officers of Jaftice,
hh Friends lhi:I be ob'iged to betray him, and the Houf^
Lroke open at Midnight that fliali afford him Shelter.
■ if this be the Condition to which any Mao is expofed
by the Laws of Uritain, he may furely be dilpenfed froa.
tijzarding his Lil'e in their Dcflocci for what Alwncica
(51)
can te m%de in tlieni, by whicn iiis Condi:ion will become Anno i^. Ceo.
wone? il. 1740.
' If any particular Body of Men be marked ou: by the V.^v'N^
Lx^ifltiar*. :>ii Ilardfliips like thclV, will nu. -very onr thit
can cou.e im Employment, liit lii'iif^-lf in ionit ')tiier Ciafs?
Aail every \i.in who has been mreidv ic unhappy as to
hxK engaged himtL-lf in tins t'rofeilion, leek fur better
T/caUDcnt in .1 lo.e'gn Lind i
• There are indtrii, Sir.-.'iiie Trconveniences ;.i!"i:-,gfrorti
thu Bj'>l. wiiicli uiil not b> con:'.ed to tnc St mci. ^ tlie
Powrr g'-initJ to Officer; to (t-nc a fafpcftcd, t;.;tt is. r.ny
Houfe Mrbich thc;y ihj.l be plci.-i to mark out, m iv affl-ct
every M>'dw1)0 h .a bt-cn lo i.npniJentaii CoofT-nd tue Cun-
fable of hit Parilh, as nc m.iy revenge the Injjry by a be.
cliration oi Surpicion, and confcqucntly by a nocm. nal ViiCt
It the Hc:id of his /ilhll'ir.ts.
■ Norii this. Sir, lue moli afR nfive Part of this Bill ; one
Cliofe of it tends to weaken tt.c mull facred T>es of iocicty,
to make not on'y fncndly Offices, buc filial and conjugal
Tcnderneff punilhibie by Law.
* The PeD.1l C:aule. by which every one U furbitiden ;o
conceal a S^^m^n wiil)[>ut Exception of particular Kc.if»n
or Relation, is, Jn my Opinion, Sir, the ucmoll Stretch of
Tynony. Let m dxtil' a while upan it, and fuppofe a Son
condcnined as & Criminal for ibelc^ring his Father; Ictus
fuppofe a Wite dnig'^ed thro* tne In'okncc of <i Crowd, and,
ailed witb all the Intimyof a FroUitute, to receive Sntence
cf Punifhment for rcfi:firg to betray her Hufb:tnd. I'o
ikink on Inch Scenes as thei'c, excites fndignatiun ; and for
ny Pare I Ihall oppofe ;:d/ Uil! of this kind, Iclt the Lxecu-
Boa of it thould tire the Nation to Rcbelhon.
Mr. Horatio Walpole.
Sir.
. ' If any Severities are prnpofcd by this BiM. or any aTc », u ..■
.Unas 01 lerruror \ lolence prc.cno' .1, it ii.ull be cOiif-ir.a vV'aloic
tkit they ran be ji'lblied by nothing but Ntccility, and I
kope thufe who (h:ill fpe.ik in their \'' .iication, are not
khafiefledby the Seme of ihcii), timuj^h they arc n.orc
QOTioc'd how much the prefcnt Scace of our Affairs rci^jiics
fath Methods than thole tint Ctp^'o!c ihem.
' How much of the Power of this Nai'on confiils In our
rittti, and how ufelefs Fleen are withojt Seimr-n, I .iiii not
toprore. Nor is it Sir, muc!i Icfs appirent, th^t ii -men
lie not to be procured by the comm&n Metitod.'', m \::in-
ben fuffi.ient for our prelient Armimcnti, and Uut tiKieiuiB
tec others mutt be Ipeedijv contrived.
H 2 . It
•MJIW
14, Geo
II 1740.
1
nc mH
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• Ii will be Mid Sir, to expeft, that 1 little Time
reconcile them to llic Seivice, aiid th:it our .Ship& will (000
be mann'd with Voluntien ; for the Fleets have uken iwijr
(och Numben, that tSere remain, perhaps, not more thao
Five Thcufind in Britain : who, though they (hcmM adembtc
St the Call uf our (Junimandcri, would be able to foppiy do
fbnni(bble Navy.
' And that « N»Ty of oncomtnoB Strtngtb Ji neeefliry
for the Honour anil Suppon of Great Briisin on thii Oca-
bon, no Mnn can doubt : ivhen he hat been informed of wbtl
J have tcccived from undoubted InteMigence, that s ncijih*
bouriug Power, rquallvtobedreided for iti AfflbitioniAtTRl
Sireogtn, it ouw equipping zo Shipi of the Line, Cor wbick
no Apparent Rexfon ean be given, nor any irore ptofaiblc^
than that they ate (JcGgn'd to tnicrnipi (he Profecution of ibe
War. Such Dangers nrghivindiaitc ut in the Ufc ofTJoIeK
and compulfivc Mctbodi 0! railing Korce*. but none are ia
reality tnienrtnl or propofe^l, mare (evere than ihofe which
wctc prefcrilxd by an AA pnffcd in the Fourth of Qncea
j^noc, at a 'lime wlrni tii? Coancili of ihc Nation were di*
tcArd by Men whom we cannot eafily lulpetl of an Eaten.ioa
to injure Libery.
* Tbatthe Condicion of Seamen will by thii AA be made
left independent than that ofocliets, and the Mclhodi of
manning the Fleet have a more epprclTivr and arbitrary
Form than thoteby which the Land-Service is fu^^Iied, tt doc
to be dcti>'d; but let it be reiucmbred. Sir, th.-il tho(e Itt*
conveniences are baUne'd by the Rewai^lt propofcd, by ibe
liberal Provifinn) mide fur thofe whom the Chance of War
ftiall dibble from iupporttng thrmklves, and the Eafe uti
Plenty to whkh they are entitled, wtiu fliiil grow oM
the Sea Service.
Mr, Campbell.
'Si a.
I
Ur.CunpbeH. ' ' know not the Import of the Term SUveryt If 9
oneani any Sate different from that wiih which Seames trc
Ihreatncd by the Bill Krfore u<. If to tofe the Power of
Choice, be to fiil inro Stivcry. every Se3niao,from theiottaai
this Bill palTei. becomes a Sl.<ve{ lor he will not only bc
excluded from the Choice of his Courfe of Life, which yet
every Freemarj mui! ncccfljrily enjoy, b« from tL< Power
of deierminingwhat Miller he wiliicrve.
■ A Sailor, Sir, after having perhapi willingly ntcrcd
bimfclf, ia either frighted away by ihc Opprcffion of hlA
Officers or alloreil intothe £=rvifc of Meictianu by Profpad
of Adrantage i but aocwithiUnding hit Apprthctilioaa oa
tite
C 53 )
one Side, and his Hopes od the other, he is to be Anno 14, Cto.
by Violence, aod condrmncd wilhout a Crime toihac "- '740-
inditioo which he drradg and abhors. V./"'^^^^
* Nor ii be ooly dcptivcd of that Tranquillity ind Con*
Mat whidl every Man propores at the Hod of his Laboura,
by (he Dread of OpprclTion, or of ihe Penalties incurred by
endeavouring to etc^pe it, but hdebarr'd from the AffitUnce
I of bii keUt'ont, and the kind Offices oF hii Frieodi : he it
Aripp'd at oucr of every thing (b.> makes Life valuable.
He itdragg'd 10 Tyranny Aod HardOi;pi. be is puni(hed for
ci>dcavoaring to avoid tbcm, and tnvolrctin ihel'.inieMirery
with himfi-If, any Friend nhuin Charity or Gratitude StaU
pro(ii[>t to ptncdt ^iIn
* To infer trom the Snrcity of Seamen, that fuch Severi-
< del are ocCciDry. ii to canfult nothing but tint Lufl of Oo'
I minion by whKh Men are often incited to ufe violent Mea-
fures, lett they fhou!''. Item lo mike too great Conceifioni
by S>jf:ncl& and Mo<ierj|ioa. The Scarcity of Se&nei), if
fuch there be, mull be imputed to the Haidlhipi to which
h they are dow expolcu, and it fcems not very likely, when
I lefi Injuriei hive dimiiiiQitd their Numbcri, that greater
will increafe them.
* Sir, Men have been loni; dircouragM from entering into
the Ships of Wit, by everyl^lethod chaicoukl be made UfC
of to difgun and offend them; Opprcflions and Ex^Aiona
have been too frequent amont; the Officers ; Mock-Expedi-
tions have raifed their Expttlations onlv to deceive rhcm,
and fuddcn Difchargei at Plao 1 remote noin Opponunitici
of Entpioytncat, have plung't' them into Dillrefi, and re-
duc'd them to Beggary. Surc>y when Men have been thus
neaird. ic it no Cniae to decline a Submiflinn to Cruelty,
' Dor ought they to be punifh'c for that DctcditioD of tho
Service which iiprodoc'd only by (be CondoA of other*.
^ Mr. Cluaerbuck.
^ * At the Qutrflion is ni« at pt rfent whether the Bi'I ftvall )^, Chtter-
ef( or whether it (h.il, be read r fccond rime, J ihink any buijt*
iliquifUiotis upon the Methods jproiHilcd in u unreifoDable '
and fuperflnoui, and (hall ihcrcloi e not it prcfcnt either offer
or anlwei Objcfliom. B»t if there be what no Gentleman
ha« denied, a NccciDty ot finding out lomc Method oftnan-
ning the Fleet, 1 conceive that c very Scnemcfor thai End
defervei to be confider'd : hir by confidering and even re<
jeAing bad Meaforet, we approv k nearer to the Difcovery
of good onei.
* Od fuch Occifioni ai thii^ -SiTf the noil rxpeditioot
Method
oorv;
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Anno »4) G«> Method of Procfeding is undoabtedly the bell i and ai it »
";'740- leftVdious to amend an Imperfeft Bill than to draw up «
-^^^^^ new ont. it will be right od confider this in the regular
Way: wv may then rejefl fuch Ciaufes as cannot be ap-
proved, atid fubltitute others which fluU be luggeUed, lefa
liable to ObjedioDS.
The Bi!I \VM onler'd to be read the Second Time, and to
be printed for the Ufe of the Members, that it might be
thoroughly examin'd and uoderAood.
Rfad a 6rll time, a Bill for the better fecaring the Free-
dom of Parliuments, by limiting che Number of Ofiicera
in the Houfc of Commons.
Read a firit Time, a Bill forfuppljirg the City of Gloa-
cefler with frclh V>atcr.
Heard (Jounfel farther on the Merits of the Reading
Eleflion : and fevcrat Witncflcs wereexnmined in behalf of
the Petitioner ; and the Counfiel for the Petitioner having
fummed up their Evidence, and the Counfel for the fitting
Member having been heard by way of Rt-ply ; the Counid
on both Sides were directed to withdraw
The aSth. Received Copies of r.ll Letrers written, or Re-
prefrntations. or Applications made to the Office of Ordnance
relating to Stores, Provifions, Ammunition, or other Necef*
faries Tor the Ufe of the Fleet lately under the Command
of Sir John Norris,
Read a fifft time, a Bill to continne an A& fo; Relief of
Debtors, wiih reipeA to the Imprironment of their Perlbos,
and two fubfequent Ads for explaining and amending the
(ame ; and alfo to continue an Ad for the free ImportaciM
of Cochineal and Indico.
Read a fecond time, a Bill to explain and amend mo AOt
3d of King James I. Jor the Recovery of Small I>dKs,and
fur the relieving of poor Debtors in London.
Re id a firil time, a Bill for the better Prefcrvation of the
public Road'' of that P^rt of Great Britain called England.
In a Committee wrnt thro' the B<U for the more cafj
Recovery (;f lm..ll Debts.
The Z9tli. Rrceivcd an Account of the Expence of Vic-
tualling his Majciiy's 1,-ind Forces feot on the ExpeditioB
to America.
Receiv^ a Copy of a Petition of the Levant Comptsj
to his M;.jeity in Council, in this prelent Year 1740, with
the Proceedings ihereou.
Oedcred. that an Account be laid before thii Honfeos
what Qujn-ties of Woo Irn. or other Goods, hmbeen
nporteil from (Jrcat Bricim fgr twcnt/ Yean, ' ending ac
CkriftttM
( 55 )
ehrlftmai lift, to RulSa, dillinguiftiing the feveral Specici, Anno i4,G»-
tai their V'ulur. il- 1740.
A^iced to the Report of Yefterday's Refotuiion 01 the
Su^fly, viz. ReloWed, That lo.oool. be granted cowards
iz.t ?u;'Fon of Greenwich Hoipi:.''.].
Ts» 4948I. 18s. 4d. be graoted for Out-peniioners of
C.:e':(:m Ho pital.
I'u.t lo.oool. be granted tovirtrdi the Maintenance of
:he Bnrilh Korts and S^ttlemi-nts in Africa.
1 DJE io,oool. be grunted for th= f^irther fettling and
improvirg ine Lolonjr of Georgia: This laft Refolution
»-3S : greed to after Debate, un a Divilion, Ayes 105, Noes
Received a Petition of the Gentlemen, principal Traders,
&c of the Town of LoUuinpton, in the County of Devon,
C(jmp-«ining cf the Decay of the Woollen NfanufaClure,
».::ch Eiie Petitioners attribute in great Meifure to the run-
■ing of Wool; and prayirg relief Refolved, That this
Hou:e wi'I, upon the jz;h of February, refolve itftlfintoa
Csamittee uf ihe waole Houfe to conftder of the faid
Pti:::on.
Heard Coanfel further on the Merits of the Reading
E'ilo.n, and examined fevcral Witneff. s, and produced
Evidence, in order to jjftify the Votes of levera] Perfoni
»'bo vo'ci for the fitting Member, and whom the Counlcl for
its Peiiiioner had endeavoured to difqualify: Then the
LouDle: on both Sided were dircchd to withdraw : Adjourn'd
U.e rjr:r.er ilearmg to Febru:ir/ 9.
Fit. ;'i. Ordcrtd, That the Thank? of this Houfe be
given ly the ftcverend Dr. Mattnew Hutton, f ;r the S;r-
non prc^ci;ed by him befjre tnis Houfe upon Friday laft
ac St. Mirgaret'j, Weflminiler; and that be be defired to
print the lame.
Received a Peti:ion of the G raziers. Wool-growers
Gentlemen. &c. concerned in Romney Marfli, in the County
of Kent, and P.accs aajicetit, complaining of the conllant
Deere >fe for 24 Vears pall of the Woollen Manufaftory, ia
which time the Price of ihe lame has gradually fell from
10I. to near 4I. the Pack; the Deo.y whereof has already
leilened, iind mult very loon to a great Degree inevitably
reduce ihe Value of vail Numbers of ElUtes in this King-
dom ; and at the fame time carry immenfe Riches tothofe
aeignbouring Countries, who have too fuccef^fully of late
rJviii'd us m the Woollen tVUnufj£lure : That as the French
CaiiBOt work up their own Wool into Clo:hs proper for
lie foreign- Markets, without mixing one Pack of Britifli or
Jjilh Wool w^ two of their owo; the Petitioners hope, if
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14, Gtfo effcflual M*tli*)d9 could be found w prevent ilie Preach front
II ij^o. IjAVinathc Wool ffom Great Britiinor Ifstand. thry wouU
t/"'^'^J not f^or lh« fuiufe be ibic to andcrrri h;i Mt-jdly** SubjcAj
in the lortJgii Mjiketi. Ai«I ftinbirr reprxUftting 10 1
Hoafe. tbati Uw TO oblige liie Owneri of *H Wot-I ff'
in Great Briuin or IteUnd. 10 regiller tiic (unr^ end
permit it CO be conveyed from tbe Place of mi Growth to a&f
AibcrPartof tnc Kingdom, but b}* Lind^Ca/nxge, ullUbe
maau^urcd, fetiat- to the Pciiiioncrf tij be the mall likcif
way to prevent tl>e KjiparLation of 'A ool out of ihvlc King*
doaii I and therefore praying the Houfe to uke (he Pretaif*
fei ioto CooftJcuiIoD, and give inch ReiicfM to the Htmie
dull fctm meet.
Ordered, 1'hat the Cud PeiidoD be referred to UlC Cooi'
ini[iee, &c.
Recflivrd Copies of Lectrn «nd Reports from the Can-
niu of hii MkjfAy's Shini at Ifomc. ariLi irom Mr. WaL
lace. Agtni fur the T«olI">«% relating tq (he Baifnefi of
ih« MAteilali put into the ticdding, ruiniOted by ihc Coo
tndortohis Mijclly'sShip*.
Read a fecond time, a Bill for iTcmfing ihr rroportaticNI
of ViAual from Ireland loScotlind in 1 Uue of fkaKity.
Read afirll time, a Bill to prevent locoavcnicDcici acibag
bjf DcUyiof Caiiles aficr lUuc jomBd.
tnaje Then Mr. Sandra prefcnted a MotioB in Writing (0
fcyMr Jandy* ■ddreffing hi* Majrtly to intorni them when the ftfggBe^
SuT'o? the '*"'**** Iniclligeoce, lh« the French aod Sptn.ih Squa* -
Fiulco and roosfailed, which wu lecooded, as toIJowt, by \lr. W«U< —
•finilb tleeu 5 , ^_
• The Informatioa now moved for, appears to mc I
BCCCQary in our DcUbcrationt on tha CoodaA of the Wa
that without it we can ooly conje^ure to the dtik, and «
(aogteouircWa in ao incxincabie Liibyrimh.
• It it well ItBown, that in W^r all Mottoni arc {■
great Degree to be rcguUtrd by thole of the CiKioy. an
that iliricfoic oo Viztlancc it to be fpaied by wbicfa an
Koow'cdge cm be guioed of thetr IMigni, nor any Method
OBJued of cctrnnnnicacing them to thoie who have cbc 0
icCtioa of the War.
' 'A Minilliy may, in coaduAing military Operatioi
difippoioi ibe Expcdxioni ot their Country, either t
seglailing lopracorc lotdligcncc. or by failing to make a
of thofe OpportunJtiei which ({jfonable Irfvimaiiun
iala tkcir Power, and they m.iy, when their Oeftgni fii
SMGcbj jttOify ihuilclvcs, by proving that tbcy were
Mr. Walkr.
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Ictt'Ugnce. which it wai rafonable to beUew,Annoi4.<:eo.
^^^xiet iTiteliigcnce n-» not atuinablr, or thit they 'Lj'*'^'
ale, howerer unfuccel^'uli^, of xll the Forcei (hit U^V^-'
then be (mployc;!, and of «II the Advanug«s that
tlMn In their PuiTcflion,
Sat bow (h\.\ we judge of our Adminiftration, how fhitl
ikaow what CoofiJcnce we ought to repofe in their Pru*
sad Fidelity, and what MircnrriJgcs are to be attri-
Co the Chiace of War, or fupcriar Force of our Eae.-
U" we cannot be inrortncd with what Diligence ihey
ivoor at Information, and how early they iuive Notice
«f tbc Mocioat of the Enemy i
Tht Siitt'ig. or rather Rfcapc of the Ferrol Squadron,
lad i ~ - of the French Fleet, are the moll imponsne
£wT- prcfentWar: ErentJ that threaten very dan.
S-c icncci. na !cfi than Defcenti upon our BritiOi
b . Canc)uc[l of our nominioni, the Slavery of
««r KelWw-Sjbjed>, sod perhaps the Dellru£tion cf the
hrvre Vrraon. who it fecure in the imagined Vigilance of
iIm MbtrCaauDanders.stul tnay, ptrhnpiina few Days, (a
fonoaaded by formidable Squadrons of dtffiifeiit
i, and expnkcd to the Ataclc oi Forces to whKh bja
P't<( K-an oo proportion.
* ' ;)pc3r) more evident, than that we bad Op-
fartui. .. cbfcTving.ac Icall, all the I'reptraiions of the
Fr«Kb.. and of watching the Moment of their Deparnire ;
md llut oar Force on tlie Coafi of Spain wai fafiicient to
kmceofiasd their Fkeu for ever in their Harbaari, or to
ksv* dcAroyed them at llietrlirfl Entrance into ihe open
Seu t of which we may juAly enquire, why it wai not at>
tiaptctl i bet OaW enquire to no Purpofe till we knew when
cbry dcpaneJ, that we nuiv confider the State of our own
F«ic««. aod whether our Hnemie; efcapcd by our Nrgli-
pace. Ccwirrlicei or Wukoefi.'
Ur. Winoingtoa.
t t,
« cannot deliberate upon Sjbjefti which wc doj^f, ^
Wtndcrftind i and (hat, ihertfore, no nrcrflary or urefulntngton.**
hfamti'ion ought to be <lcnied tu the Houftr, I Ihall readily
*te iS obfierTcat the fame time, that the Reputa*
titt . uife would be very litijccoofultcd, in dennod-'
il|inforiiutiao which canoot be given.
• To addrefi hii MajcAy to inform ui of the Time at
Mich ihtSqtudroiu of our Enemies failed, is to enquire of
ka whac it ought to bt the higheft Cure of thole Princes
V«i. VU. I to
VSniLdcf
V hfamti'i
. ( 58 )
Hi-rrM.Gco (0 conceal from him. »rd winch he can only know by K«r-
IM740. jj,g spi« in their Privy Councils.
^••^T^tm^ * And of wha: Imporancc is ii to rni^uire what Intelli-
gence wai brought him, or when he received it, if ii ii>-
pean that hit Intelligence muA be in iu uwn Dature uncer-
lain Klul dubitabte.
* Th>t they haMlefi their Ports, is now certJlin, bcc«i
they luve been twice difcoverrd in different Paiti of tt
World ; but ai we can now only (orm ConjeAureiof
Defigns and CsurEes, fo, before ihey fsilei, it wis impoffibli
to know, when they were folly equipped, or what Time
W4S 6xed for their Depirture. It i» to be remembcfcd. that
they furm Mcaftires, and make their Prcpantloni to their
uwD IJomioioD*, and iheicfote have more Adtfantago TrMm
concealing ihcir Scbcmr}, thaawc fromdifcovftiog then.*
Mr. CHtpbell,
Sm,
>U.Cinp^U. • Thi» Motion, which has bcrn rcprefentcd aj gnrtafea'
tbic and abfiitd. it, ia my Opinion, not oaty proper, but
tmpottiat.
• It is important, bccaule ttwill enable ut to judge upon
fufiicienr Poiindacions, of the Conduft of the Mttiillty. who
areccnlured by the Voice of the Nation, (or having been
cither tlefcftive in Vigilance, or in Adivity; for having
been ciihcr ignorant hy iheir own Fauh of the Defigrvi of
the Cnemy, or perhdioufly pafiive ia pcrmitiing ihe Exccb-
tiooof them.
• I atn f^r from bcliering that fuch Iniclligence, as oar
^lioiHry u exp<6ed to procure, tcquirci any uncKnmaa
Subtilty, or any other Agcr.ti than arc altviyirmploj'rd
every MiniAer, to tianfmit to them InforiDationt froiA for
Count. Such, I am afraiJ, are atw>ayi hovering about
Coniitluttont, and I know ootwliy our Mtniltert Ihuu.'i
IcU diligent, or left fucccfiful than thofe cf other Piincei.
' If, tbetefore, fuch loiciligeBCe intght have been cbnmcj,
it wii criminal not to obuin iti anil if the Drpdtturc of
the Spinilli Squadron was forefcen, it ougtit to be co^airnl,
vby It M-ai Dot prevented a and if it wat only known whna
it wss lootatelohindct ii from failing, why it wai not |>ar>
fned, or why Saccours were not tmmciliitet/ difpitcbcu to
AiminO Vcrooo.
* Ait ihefc Queflioai can be only rrfotved, in ConCe^iMoco
of the Information which hi^ Mijeliy fliall give usi and far
WhiCbj it ii tbeicfort, ilk my Opiuoo, occcJuy to Pctiiioa.
moa
%
Henry
^
h
1
(59)
Ueaijr Ptlhim, tXqi ii. ij^o.
• How (he Regency cnuld be inJbrmed oF the Fotcntion Mr. PvlKun.
«f tic Spknurdito Inv* thdr Ports til) i( appeared by tbeir
'.' :.>tr. or by wbac Mrans it ud be expe^ed that hit
V (bu^ld be rtow ac<iuainled with (bcir particular
L:j^te. or brtlier OcTigai, 1 coofeli myiclf anabic to con-
crire.
• With rtgirJ, Sir, to the InwIJigeoce imnfratKcd from
Soeti%a Cbtiiti b/ Agcnti and SpK>, ■ litJr Lonrideration
witl Cfefi])' ^ifcovcr thai it is not to be Iruftcd. For what
on be generally expcflcd from tlirm, but that tbcy Should
CT' 2 RepOfti. or by Chame intercept ancertatn
v., ^.taithry fljouldeoquiietimorouny, and therefore,
(or (be gieiieil ^n, of ihofe ftom whom no CititfjAory
Auoaatictn be rcceiv'd. and that ihry (hould often coJea'
YOBrnddcimheir SalaLiicsby focb InfornuicioD'as is rather
plnftug ihia irve
' AU the Knowledge ihaccan be obtained of an Enetny't
Drirgni, Biitii ariJc Irom a diligent Cumpiriron of one cir-
cnatttacc with soother, and frooi a general View of bis
Fbrcc, hia IcterrA. aad hii Opportunllies. And that {\Kh
Coejeifture* will be often erroncout, ncedt not to be told.
• probability, therefore, ij, m (uch Enquiriej. all that can
bs atsaifMd. and be that Ati idle in che'Ticie of War, ex-
jirt' -~ —riin (nielligcncc, will fee his Enemies enjoying
t: .igc> of hu Folly, and laying bold on a tfaoulaod
Ofp.'run,uei which he hu neglcflcd to improve.
' The W»r, in which we are now engaged, has been
Cirried on by the Admimtiratioo with the utnioll Diligence
•ad Vigour I nor hare nny Meifurcs been omiiied that
cmld probably produce Succers^vid theSuccefi of the wffcft
Mex'^rn if o«iy probible.
' the great Admiral, who n now prefent io the
|i . .- 0]ei the French and Spiniards in the open Sm,
hf wiiat Art could be arrive at a certain Knowledge of
ifctir Defigri'i be might, by hii Actjoaintancc wjih the
Stimdon iad Sure of ncighboonng Couotrie?, the CK)lcrTa*
•am of their Course, the Pcriodt of particular Windt, and
Oilier Hiait» ofObferntton, fortn probable ConjcAurei, but
OmM nerer reach to Certainty or Confidence
• Itfeemi n> me, thcraiorc, highly improper, to petition
ftii Majefly for InicUigencc. wh:c^ he cannot be imagined
IO btTi received, and I cannot sgTce to any Motion for tbit
Pnrp'ofr
I t
Rejeaid
t
II. iriO.
r>.r(IUBL
OBW *
( eo)
Rejraed a Motion toaddref* hii Majefly, Thit the H
be iniormcd, when hii Majefly, or ihc I^ords Julltcea, firA
rertivetJ ccruin Advicci of the failing of the Fcrrol, BrdI,
and Toulon Squadroot for the Wcll-Iodie*.
Mr. Sudys then made another Motion, to iddrdi hti
M:jc(ly, ihat there may be laid b<fore the Houfe Cf'pici of
all Letters received from, or written to, Adminl VcrnoA
fioce fail going to the WeS-Indiet. Which being fccooded.
Ml. Pelham fpokc to this £fi<a :
S t *,
* ThbMotioe.if the Intectioa of Itbeliiniced by proper
ReftrkltoikSf ii doubtlcftrrATonablc andjutl, for the Right of
this Honfe lo exaoitne into the Condutl of public A&tn,
aad con{e<iu<;aiIy for calling for the Paper* necellary t*
catightcn their Euquiriet, ii oot to be difputed
* Bat, ai the End of all fuch Enquiricf ii the PromotioB
of Uic public Welfare, fo they are not to be made In b
Biatiner by which that End maybe defeated. Paper* ■rt
not to be deiuaodcd, which canoot be produced wi:houldif<
covrring our own Secreis, and acquainting our Enemies
cither with that Weaknef^t which we oughi carefuUy to
cottcei), or (hat Force which will be tnoft cffrtimUy ein<
ployed if it is not known, and ihcrcfoie no Preparjliooi an
made to oppolc it.
* It csiinot be imagined, bat that mxny of the Paper*
which have p-ilTed bciweeo the Admiralty, and the Coid-
maodcr in America, contain Flam of the Fiofccutioa of
the War, Ohrcrvationt on the Condiiion* of our own Colo-
niet, and pcrhip* Intelligence of ibe Efl«tc of the Spanidi
Fortrcirei and fowni. Many loforoiationi of the utmot
Ouifcquence to our Enemiei may be coilcAed from tlit/fe
Papers, but nothing can be expc^ed from them, that w
enable US lo profecute a parliamentary Eoqairy with mo
Succefi, Cflcc tt Will occ put it in our Power lo difcoTi
Fraud*, Negligence or Treachery.
■ There arc. Sir. other Papcn which may indeed be laid
before di, without aoy BeoeEttoour Enemies, and perhapi
with fome Advaiiuge to ourfelvet, the P^pen which contua
die Accompts of our Preparations aod Store, the LiiUol'oor
Force*, and the Calcuiatjoo of our Expcnces are the proper
Sub)cAi of pariiamecBry Enqoirtci, atui if the Maiioa b*
Tcllraiocd to thotr, 1 believe, ti will (tot be oppoJcd by anf
CeotJeman engageJ in the Adrainirtration of oor AJIiitr*. 1
fiuU bes Lravc to prupoTe there Words may be added.
/4rMt tlt/jMt rtUtit ta a Smfftf tfUlfift, Jih^ian *r U
Fwtti,* [llic Motion, thw* tmetwlctl, wu ajrrni to )
Of<ici
( 6I )
Ordered, Tltat Copies, or Extraflj of all Letters, and Annoi4,Cre.
kber Papen from Mr. Kincb, hi* Mijelly'* Minifter at the M f7*>.
irt of Ruflb, lo cither of his Msjelly** Secrctariei of L^V"^J
ite, or to tlic CommiiSaners for Trade iintl Plantations, fo
ir as the fame relate to che opening of a Trade to and /loia
Er£a thro' Ruflta, be laid before thetn.
The Order ol the Day being rend for the Call of the
H Dure, it was moved, that the lame be further adjourned litl
Thurftiay fc'cn night : After Debate, the (jucllion being
it, itp=fl«d in the Negative; Aye* 84, Noc* 107.
Refolvcd, I'hat the Call of the Houfe be Qrthcr adjourned
'I'ueltJay the 31 H of March next.
Agreed to the Report of Part of a Bill for the more eafy
Iccovery of fmall Dtbis, itul ordered ic to be iartbcr con-
^£dcred 00 Thurfday.
The ;th. Ordered, that the Tbanka of this Houfe be
liven 10 Dr. Reuben Clarke, far the Sermon by hicn
ichcd before this Houfe Ycftcrday at St. Margaret's,
^ellioiniler, and that ht be dcfired to print the fiine.
Read a firil time, a Bill to explain fo much of an A£t of
He I jth of Queen Anne, for providing a public Reward for
ch Perfoo or Pcrfons as Ai.U diicovcr the Longitude at
ea, ai relates to tht making of Hxpeiiments o( Propofais
irdilcoveringihe Longitude at Sea.
Received a Petition from the Inhabitants of South-Caro*
laa, felling fonh. That on the 18th of November lafl, a
■inoll drend^l' Fire broke out in Charies-I'own, and in left
than 4 Houri utterly confamed the belt ami moft valuable
Part uf the (aid Town, whereby many Families are reduced
to the utmotl Didrefs, and therefore praying Relief, ice.
Referred to a Committee of the whole Houle on the txth
inltaot.
Ordered, That the prof>er Officer do lay befsre (hU
Haufe, an Accoonl of the I'evrrat Qo-iniiiies of Wool that
have been hizeA by iny OfScer of lixcile or Cufioms withio
this fvirgdom foi fevcn Yean part,dillii)guifiiing each Year.
Refolveil. 1 hat this Houlc will upon this Day eight
Weeks, refolve itielf mio a Commtltcc of ihr whole Houfe
^Bn>on the bilti fxr rcguliufig friab at A'l/f Fnai^ and for
^fbe more cftedual lummor.mg Special Jurici.
' In a grand Commhtre, went tftro* ihe Bill fjr ihebener
I fecuring Che Freedom of Parliiit.eflti, by limiting the Num-
■ker of Officers iu the Houfe of Common*, with fevcral
^H|imendnicDl>,
^B Refiimed the adjoorned Confidcration of the Report of
^Bbc fiiil for the more eafy Recovery uf Small Deixi : And
■lamiocd fcreral Fntbai ai loucbine theu Piacci aad Fen.
Th,
(62 )
Annoi4,Geo The i6tli. Read i fecond time, a Bill to prevcBtlnr
IL1740. rcoiencies arifing by Delay* of Caufet mftcr Ifiucjiwl
^/'"y*\J Relumed the adjourned ConfidentJon of the Report (i'
the Small- Debt Bill, and nude a farther ProgreTs.
lo a grand Committee went thro' the Bill corendaAt'
Jtivis more effe£toal for preventing Stieeptflcalinei ui\
Ciaufe was added for the more enAual preventiBg dit
robbing of Orchards and Gardens, and fiealing of Wtll-FnA
The 9th. Received a Petition of the principal Inhabiml
of the Borough of Minehead in SomcrfetlhJre, conptaiai^
of the Decay of the Woollen ManafaQuret, and vnvH
Relief, &c.
Read a firll time, a Bill to indemnify Perfbnt whobm
omitted to qualify ihemfelves for Officei b/ taking tk
Oaths, &c.
Addtefs'Klat- Refolded, That an humble Addrefi be prefented toll
Kg toa Cartel Majefty, to give Direflions, that Care may be taken (ofc-
uin all Spnnilh Prifoners that have already, or flul) b»
aficr be taken during this prefent War, until tbey flnlllR
exchanged for fome of his MajeAy's Britifli SubjcAs, td
that he will be gracioufly pleafed, as foon at convenietfll
may be, to fettle a Cartel with Spain, for the Exchanpi
Prifoners taken in War.
Heard Counfel further on the Merits of the Rcadii|
EleflioQ, &c.
The loth. Received a Petition from the CIotbien|te.rf
Froom in Somcrfetfhire. And another Petition fnm ikt
Wool-combers, Weavers, Dyers, &c. concerned in lB>ldM
of Druggets at Road and Telsford in the fame Omb^
complaining of the Decline of the Woollea Tnujle, Secwi
praying Relief, &c. " '•
Received an Ellimate of the Debt of his MzjcBy*%JfyrL
as it flood December the 31ft, 1740.
Ordered that John Meres, Printer of the Diity Poft,
was committed on the 3d of December 17401 totheCtaAl#]
of the Serjeant afArms, for printing Part |of • maU^^
and fcandalous Libel, &c. in that Paper of the-firftdf^i^
cember 1740, tie difcharged out of Cullody, pty
Fees, upon giving Security to be forth-coming, to
the ProfccLiiion which this Houfe has addrelTed fai«
10 carry on againft him.
Agreed to the Report of the Bill to render tb« iMJI
more effrdtual for preventing the Stealing of ShentMl
other Cattle. Ordered it to be engroffed. -Ty
Agreed to the Report of the Bill for the better lecttl^
the Freedom of Parliameocs, by limiting the Numbtar
( 63 )
Oicmia the Hoafe of Comnions. Oidertd it to be en- Annor4,Gea
groftd. II- ■740-
Heard Coanlel further od the Merits of the Reading I^/VSh/
Ikaioa, &c.
The* tith. Read a fecond time, the Bill to indemnify
Perfouwho have omitted to take the 0.iths, &c.
Rod a fecond time, the Bill for the belter Prercrvatioa
tfAe pubhc Roadj of Gre.it Britain.
h a gnnd Committee wenc thro' ih^f Bill for licenfing
Ar InporbtioD of ViAiuI from Ireland into Scotlund in
Twc of Scarcity.
Sod a third time, and palled the Bill to render the Lawa
■OK effcAoal for preventing the Healing and deftroying
Sheep and other Caitle. Ordered it tothe Lordi.
Hceived a Petition of the Clothier.^ and StuIF-K'eaveri of
Kiddcrminller in Worcefterlhire, complaining of the Decay
af the Wooden Manufa£tory, and praying Relief, u:c.
The izth. Received feveral Petiiions from ^^'^'"'"'t Snndrv Pcti
UidfinDBicr Norton, Wdton, Paulton, Tem|>Ie. High Lit- tjons com-
I'ctM* aad HallUrow, alio fronn Siiepton-Maltet, all in the pliinrng of
CoHttty of Somerfet, con-pLining of ihe Decay of the '^'^.^"^^ "*"
Woollea Manu&dure, Ac. &c. Alfo a Petition from Leeds Tradtl,
ia Vorkflure relating to the fame.
* Thii Day Mr. SamJjs, to avoid the Rcfieelhn of a liifio-
tmraiil Pttctedii^, im prtferritt^ a Charge luithout giving
fnvimi tiuiett thgi^ht it proper to go from bit Plact to
Sk Xatirt IFa/f/e, and in a 'vtiy frank tnanner told him,
1^ ht might tah ff'mrming, aud frtpart to be upon bit
Gmri^ /*r tbmi «• Frid^ next he Jbould bring an Aiivfitdon f
fntmi Artitlit againfi bim. Sir Robert paufed a Utile upon
^urJtftStd M Ocmp/imtnt ; but tbauted bim 'very politely fjr
fir Infirmmtiam, and fiiid, be dtfirtd no Favour, but fair Play.
— JA*. S^mfyi oftertMardi mentioned tbit Affair publicly in
Athmfi, mmd faidt be bad a Charge to make agatnft an Ho-
mmtii hUimbtr tf tbt Houfi, the Chancellor rf the Excbe-
ftf,wivm btrifuirtdtobt in hii Place tohear and anfituer it
« Iridmf Miming ment. Sir Robert returned fr Jnfvier,
fkr fc fitmtd tirtainly attend; and as be wat not anfcious of
i^Crimt H dtfimn fich an Accujation, did net donbt tf being
4b to auie a fr^er Dfftntt, frying, " Nil confcire fibi f ,
" mBi pallelcere Culpx." H^nb being mi/^nted, occafonej
^Wi^^ tf a Gainta between bim an?. Mr. Pnlleney. Sir
JUff/ beii^ etnmimeedef bit Miftake, yielded the laager kft,
^^ At •tf^t* Gtatiemem Utk ttbe a good Omen en thiir
t HoRAei/gvnalla— Culpa.
(64)
Anno 14, Geo. Alfo t Petition from the Lord Mayor, Aldenneo, and
lt^7¥>- Commons of the City of London, in Common Council af>
fembled; fettiag forth, That notwithftanding themany Aftt
of Parliament that have been made to hinder theExporta-
ttOD of Wool from Great Britain and Ireland, yet the iame
have not ])roved effeflual to prevent fo great and crying an
Evil i that to the unfpeakable Grief of the Petitioner!, and
to the abfolute Deilrudion of the Trade and Mann&^ores
of thefe KinKdoms, great Quantities of Wool are every
Year clandeftmely exponed to France, and other foreign
Countries, by Means whereof the French in particular are
enabled not only to rival, but even to underfell ue in Clothi,
and other Manu&ftures of Wool, in mofl foreign Markets,
to the inexpreffible Detriment of the Commerce of tbcle
Kingdoms, and their own immenfe Gain and Advnnuge ;
£nce it is well known that by one Pack of Britifli, or IrJQi
Wool, they are enabled to work up two Piickt of their own,
which, without that He!p, they could not make uCe of, fo
as to interfere in any confidcrable Degree with the Mann-
fiidures of this Nation: That, if the public Notoriety of
this deftrufiive PraAice, is not fuSicient to prove how in-
ci&dual the Laws hitherto made have been to prevent the
clandefline Expertation of Wool, the Petitioners prefamc,
that the languifhing State of our Manu/adures at Hom^
the continual iocrcafing Demand for tiiem at foreign Mar-
kets, together with the low Price, to which Wool is already
reduced, mull fully (hew, that more elTeftual Means arc ne-
ccflary to put a ftop to the Exportation of it, and thereby
preferve to thefic Kingdoms that ineltiioable Gift of Provi-
dence, the very Vitals of our Commerce, the chief ud
almoft only Soukc of the Riches and Grandeur of tim
Nation ; and therefore praying. Sec.
Read a firft time a Bill to enable the Commiffionen of
WeftminUer' Bridge, to raife a further Sum towardi finiihiaj
the Cime.
Agreed to the Report of the Bill for liccofing the Impoi^
mtion of Vi£lual from Ireland into Scotland, &c. Ordeicd
it to be engroflcd.
Ordered a new Writ to be ilTued out for Eleding m Bar-
gefs to ferve in Parliament for Portfmoutb, in the room of
the Honourable Charles Stewart, Vice-Admiral of the
White, deccafcd*.
Read a third time, and paffisl the Bill for the better fecn*
ring the Freedom of Parliaments, by limiting the Nomber
of
* Vict-Aimirti Vtraen 'was tha*d im bit Rmm wthtat
Offe^/iM.
( 65 )
the HouJic of Corainons. Onicred k Co the Anno r4, Gea
II 1743.
lit WM moved, that ilie Journal* of *— '''Y*\>
1 ^>( J}«ct'inbcr i68{, of the lUtK of
. 'if (he 7CI1 of I>ccrnib<r, and i6tb of
y .:.,j. ifiJ ol (lie 9J1 of November 1696, io
to tni; FrtxcTdir^i of ihe Houfie, ia the Cafe of
L^c;; Opram ChtircbiU, the Lotd V'ilcount
ad, aimI Mr. Mauley, Member 0/ ti»e Houfe, might
Aru3 ihr fame being rrad acconding'y, Mr. Sindys Hood
laiul <3e1miTU bimclf >i /ollowt:
•"^
^L^ s:r (he miay Acv^DUges arifiag from our happy s^m SonJri^
^■Mb. rem, tbcre it one whrch is reciprocal to ^^
^H^^ vviiirh I-, a kga) anii regular Method by
^V^ cH OneVAncef,i.bmp!aiau, atul
Ht it^ign ; not only witli regard to
tta« Mcrtvict Itf jtyrtucs. uut a.lD wjili rcgjid (o ihe ftfriboa
I fcc etB^fcyj li, jb aV'.c i\Ior.arciiKi. tlie People in*y fuf-
H .' but ttto' ibeii SuHeriu^i be pLjbJic^
Bt tieprtv..te: Tliey uiull not fo much
H Biimu' a];«ifllt ttaeir S.iDg*i Mtalurcs or MmiileiSi if
tbfy do, it II crriaiR i'eniiltoii to the Few tiitil ate guilty of
te isacb IntlilcrctioD. TJtii it a moll lertibic Miifotcune
a trw fcDple la all ahl'olinc Monarchici, and occAfiooi
t&olc tJnrcri: FuniJhmcnLt and Cfuel Toriuiei. wltkh arc lb
frcifwm in *U foch i boi it is a Mi-furtune to the ablolure
Uoducti, MS well ma to tbc i'eopte under hU defpotic Sway,
fur ai Jm lu* no w&y of comiDg at tlte Knowledge uf the
Capap«^riiy ur bit Mr'liir»or Mitulicrs. be often goCs
lu/C', or cmiiloying the Ume
: cf hii People becunic uuiver*
, --. by a gewrj) liifurrtetior-, he and
^cil 10 oAc com>non Kuin. However
may have been, however much he
' (Ml bv his MirllVti.^n impciuoutt
■ rrncc: The
' !iie Faniily,
■ ■t tnr i'ljfteiii, and
: ot at) injiicd i*(^u.
, ^it. itr.in never be To, A9 long as the
y arJ fitclv. auJ the
... 1 ; -;j!ully ibe Omy tbcjr
ibcir CoiittUucltt*, aod ttictr L«utiiry.
a. jit
purlatn|[ tl<i! C"
MaiUcrt. cjU :iic
U. IOC J J . :'ij. ■ J.
Lr. ■.!.- ;■--■ T .
(68) -
Anno 14, Geo Company the Sam of fcven Milltont Sterling, which thcf
II. 1740, had obliged themfeives 10 p>}' to the Public, a grcai P»n of
lh/*W^ whicb Sum was (;iven to old Stockholder*, aptt conlcqucntly
10 thofe who hid never fulTcretJ by the Sclicmc j were ibc
Stcpi by whicK be wikt fuppoiVJ lu have itUn 10 Power, and
Aicb Steps eould not but rnif'c a grr^rnl l>illa(le W hit Ad*
rinccinenifXnd a Dread uf hi* AOminidration.
' 7'hiis, Sir. he cMered in:o ire Atlmintiiratioti wilb tltf
general Diiapj'robatioo of the People j ai.d I atn la-r, hu
JVtesfutC) ilncc have beco l^r frum reflortrg him (o ibdr
Love or Eikcin. At he Ugi:, (o hus he gore on. oppief-
Jing the Innc^cnt, impcling u[:on the Crci^u our, fi^rerniDg
tliC Guiiy, willing the public Tresfure, and endaojering
the L'bertict of ihe People. AU thii I could evince Tom
every Siepofhii AcniiniiliaURn. ftotn the Ucginniog lothii
very D^v , but 1 Hull confine myfe.f to fume of ihe rood re-
mark-^^.e Irllancei. In general, I (bail obfetve, that by
hit Ai'vicc and rr.fluencc amucb ctriicr Aioiy }ia\ all along
been kept ap than was neccltiirj' k>r (he Support of ocir G»
vernmcnc. or cocfiilcnt with our Conflilutiun, and even tlM
Army cften augtncmedwich&u; any rcitl C'ufe : That mnj
SijuadronB have Iveen fiilrd out, to the great tvpence cf tM
Nation, and gcncial 0:t(iirb:.nL-e of our TrAdc, without any
jud C'luie, and, I believe, wichoji To much m Dtfign to em-
ploy them cfLfLually, cither ag^iiiifl our Encmici, ur for the
Afiiiianceof cur Allies: I hat every Method prcpoicd ot lit*
Yean for fecunng cur ConOiiuiion iigamtt our mott dangC'
roui Enemy, Conuption, li»s been, by bii Mean, fcjrfial,
or rendered inclTcduil; wiiiltl, on i! e otKer hand, many pe<^
Vi*i h»ve been p:tne<;i, whii:!] have reduced » gmt Nacnbir
of hi* M>ji.Hy'i Sa'oJc£l^ under the arbitrary Power of I
Minil^rr Aril hii Crdiures ; 1 hat almoA every Ariic'e ef
pu ' lie hat been encreakd by the Ad«jjiicn of n«ir
kcr < ilicerti and all Enc}Di)ie« into the M^LnjgcniCBt
of any I'ublic Money, either prcveotcd or deiesud . That
Vote* cf Credit at the End of aSeflionof Parliament, wMc^
have alwayt been ihopght of dtngcroui Confcquencc tooor
ConQit^tiw. have by him been nude I'o frequent, that fcv
Sefllons have poflid wiihout one: That the txpenceof tt>
Civil Urt hat been vaJUy increafcd fjnce the Begin- ■'"' "^
bis A din imitation, tho* it v.zi then much greaiei ti ■'
ever amounicd la in former Times. To thefc, Sir, wim.
lire alt of a domellic Nature, I Oisll add, with reginj to
our foreign Afuirt, that ever fmce hit Advice begun to t»
picva'cDC la our foreign Alfjtrf, the Trade and paiitfvli)
ln:ers(i(<rt!iiA Nation i^sve id all I'miiet and Negociatton
bccii ncgk^led, tbe Couiidccce ol our moil lutural Allin
( 69 )
rded, ind the Favour of our mod dringcroui Enemiei Anno t s, Geo.
iiul that to this mail
table Coniiuft. the *'■ 'T-lO'
unnccou
prcfent meUnchoIjr Sitnaiion of ihc Affurs of F.urope ii L^'Y"^^
principally lo bealcrjbcd.
' 1 know. Sir. it will be obje^d, that as every materUt
Siep in the lace ConduA of «ir Pulilic Afi^irt. cither at
home or abroad, hit been authorized or approved of by
Pjr.'iamcfil, what 1 have lud mull be look'd oo as a general
Chjrgc 3gntnfl his Majcdy'i CounciU and our Parliarnrnii,
rather than a peiU.ngl Charge agitnO any one MiniDer;
bat thii, upon a due ConGder^ition. becomes the moil heavy,
and liic moil evideor Chnrge ngxinlt the Minitler 1 arm at, i
According to our ConQitution. wc can have ao (ole and
pfime MiDiHer : We ouj^fat alwayi to liavc (everal prime
nliriilleri ur Ufficcri of Sute : F.very fuch tifiicrr has his
own proper Dcpanmeni; and no Officer ought to meddle
in the Afiaira belonging to the Dep;irtmeni of another. Out
it is publicly itnuwrt. that thi» Miniflfr, hi>ving obtained a *
fole Influence over all our public Councils, has not only af-
fumcd the fole DircAion of all public AiFairi. but hat got
every Officer of S;a:c removed that would not follow hii
i^ir^lion, even in the AfEtirs belonging lo his own proper
Department. By thU meins he haih monopolixni all ibt
Favoart of the Crown, and eogratlcd the fole Dilpufj] of all
placet, Penfioni. Titlw, and Kibbons, as well a&of all Pjc-
kriiicni*. civil, military, or eccUfiatltcs).
^^* This, Sir, ii of itiVlf a moll heinoui Cf&nce againft
Hfr ConlUiutioot but he has greatly aggravated the Hej-
luiufncli of bit Crime ; for, having thus monopolized ill the
Favours of the Crown, he hkt nude a blind ^subin.fTiun to
liis Diitftinn at Eleflions acd in Parliament, the only
Ground 10 hope for any Honours or Prcfcrmrntt, and the
otily Tenure by which any Gentleman could prclrrve what
he hnd. This ii fanutoriouily known, that it c^n (land in
need of no Proof. Have not many detcr\-ing Gentlemen
been dKippointcd in ibc PrefcrmcDt they bad a jull I'itle to,
upon the hare StiCpiciun of not being blindly devoml to hii
pcrfonal Intereli ? Have not lome Pcrfaos of the highcft
Kanic and moft iliultrious Charafieri been dilplaced, fur no
other Realon tttan becitife they difdaincd to liicrjf)ce ihrir
Honour and Confricncc to his Direction in Parliament. Al
no Crime, no Kcglcil, no Mifb^biviour could ever be ob-
jcAed to them, .is no other Jlealon could ever be alTigned fur
depriving the Ciown of their Service, this only could bt
the Kralofl. Nay, hai not this Miniller himfcit not only
cunfelTcd it, but boaRcd of it? Has he nut faid, and in ihia
^oulc too, [bat he would be a pitiful FcUow of a Miniiler
II. I740.
C 70 )
Anno tj, Cct) who dii not difplace soy Officer that oppofed ht) Meafiirct
in Parlument f
• Car any Gentlenian who heart) this Dcclmrion dtfire
a Pruof of the Minillcr's Mifcondud, or of hit Crjmei t
Was not tills openly avowing one of the motl hcitioni
Crimea chac can be committed by a Minilirr in thit King-
dotn i Wat it txx avowing that lie had made ufe of ihe
Favours of the Cruwn for ofauining a corrrupt MMJoricy tfl
both Hoiilei of Psriiament, and krcping that Mijoriijr In 1
naviOi D'^'pendance upon dimlclf alone ? Do not we «ll
kuuw, thai even the King hinirelf is ttot, by our ConlUta-
tion, to take Nuticeof an^ Man's Bctuviour in Pxrliamnf,
farlrff to make ibat Behaviour a Meani by v--kich he U ID
obtain, or a Tenure by which he ii to hold, the Favour of
the Crown ? And fliall we a'.law a Miniller not otily i<t ^o
but openly [0 avow, what he ooghtfo be hanged for. '
tte uvile bii Sovereign to do lo? Il t< by Means u, ...;.
Crime, Sir. that the MiniAer I am rpeakiogol hai obluined
the Authority or Approbation of Parliament in every Step
of hit ConJi>A, andcherefnre that Authority or Approbatiott
h (o fit (tota being an Alleviation, that it is a mod bciry
A^ravation of every wrung Step which he has ihoi got
tuiiiorifed or approi-rdof by Parli-ment, For this Realoo,
in confiilering any particular Step of hii Condu^, its being
BUthotilcd or .ipprovi.-d by P-irliameni. can bivc no Wcigu
in his Ftvour, whatever ic m^y have igainft him !f lh»
Strp W3S in ittcT weak or wicked, or if ii now-appeiri
from ill ConlcqucDcc: to have been To, it< having been ap-
proved of. or authorjfed by Parltament. mcfl be fuppofol to
Aivcprocccded cither ftom hi) havingmillrd thr Pirliamai
by fall'c GIoUcs and AflVvcralions, or from hit having ovci>
awed a iVhjviity by tiicani ot that Cnme which be has liiire
openly avowed.
• Having tbto obviated an Obje&ion that may be madi
spinll any particular AccuLtioo, u well as ;igjinn the
general Accu&tions I have already mentioned, I ftall jol
bint at Torn e of the ptniculir Brancbts of MifconduA ht
Jus been guilty of in ttie long Coarfr of hi» AdminiAr^iion t
and among thcfe, the fm-tU Progrels we have made in the
Difchar^e of our Public Debt mofl juilly dcferve* the firfi
Place. It il really fu/pri^ing, that the National Debt (bould
MW be as much, if not more than ii wa» in the V'car m^t
when our MibiLter firll took it into hi* Head to pull down IM
owrgrowo Powerof iheHoui'eof Auflria. In the year i;i6,
the public Dcbr was computed to amount to no more than
4.7.894.9^01. bar by fome Articles ihen omitted, and bymaoT
•xtraoidiury Allawaaces afierwardi maile, cfpeciaDy ihoic
rclatiag
( 11 ) ^
t?Bg^K> Army- Debenture!, in which this Gentleman ha;d AnTxi"^o"
.very remarkable Sliare, llic publrc Debt. a> it then Hood, II' 1740.
s made to amouni to 5 1 ,oco,oool. Of thii Sum tberc
I, in or before the Ye»r 172J. pftid off about j.ooo.oool.
hich rcducetl it to 46,000,000!. snd as the Sinking- Fund
at to receive a grcit AiJdition in the Vear 1727, by the
RcduAion of Imcrert, we had a Profpcfl of having a great
Par: of our public DcbtJ paid off in a few Yean, cfpecialiy
as the I'ranquilliLy of Europe, or at ieatl of thti Nation,
Jcetncd to be cllablifhed by the Treaty concluded rhat Year
At Vicaiia, between the Emperor af>d ihe King of Spain.
But our Minifler u^as, it fecms, fenCble of the Power and
Influence he acquired by means of this Load of DebCi and
by the many Taxes impofcd for the Payment of ir. He
Itnew that thcfe Taxei, while :hey •continu(\ mutt alw.iyj
make a great Number of Oncers and Placemen ncceffary ;
and at be bad the placing, preferring, and dilpldciog of aU
Ctiefc Ofticcri at hii arbitrary WjU and PleaTare, he tcnerv
wh It ^^ <^igi>t this g'^'* to \i\% Influence^ both .11 K'efliont
and 111 Pailiament. For this Rcafnn he hai employed ail
his An to prevent our being .tble to pay off soy Part of our
old debr, or if w: paid uff with one Hand, he has rakcn
care tn rvtke us contrail ai much wiiii the other, fo that the
Naiiuoai Debt ia now much about the fame, or rather more^
than It wa> in the Year 172;. tbo' the Nation had ncrcr, in
all thm Time; been involved in any extraordinary Expencc,
but what has bccu u&necellarily brought upon it by hii j4rt
ur Mifcondtffl.
k* 1 Uy, Sir, hii Art or Mifcoitdud, either of which is
ruioly a molt fafiicicnt Caufc 10 remove him from his
jijed)'i Councils; but 1 am apt 10 believe, there was
fonieihingof Art or Dcfjgn.aa well a» Mifconduft in it} for
he really feemi to have bem afraid of baring our Debts
(timiDifiicd, fur fur of titc Confcqucnce, which muit have
^^w«n ih^t of aboUfiiing (ome of our moll burdenfomc and
^Krn'Cioui Taxet; oihcrwife it was tmpoiTiblc he could
^^ve tiken fo much Paini ai he did. to delot a Schema
offered a few Year> fincc by a wortliy Member of thif
bule, for reducing the Intercft payable upon '.he iValional
bt( and f\)r pulling the whole upon 11 certain Footing of
di*c>iargcd in a Courfe of Vcari, without ia beirg la
rof any (ueh Minirter at he to prevent it. 'i«
lull with the defeating of thi;Srhcrre, may likcnilc
fkidtobcan AccuUliun biough'. agairfl thti very Psrliit-
ni i luu it ii well known by wtiam, and by wi-.ofe InHti-
ice it wai defeated. I am pretty lure, tt 11 the genera!
iatua without Doors, (liai u wat not by [fit I'<f1uc(M;eof
A'guisent;
( 7a )
Adpo M. Gro Argomfnt; but tf the Ddcat ivas owing to thxt loffjcTK^,
II. %Tio. SI 1 hope It was, I am convinced, th.tt mod of thofe «ho
l^'— V''"S-) were fwaycd by that Itifiuencc, are row kniible of (heir
Error, srul Iic^rli'y with tlicx '■'d coiilxlcred b«ttcr of it I
br I am afraiJ we Hull never again meet with fo farourtble
an Opportunity.
• But. Sir, the next Step of Mifcondufl I Oiall take notice
of^ is of a diflc.'cni NAiurc; it ii a Siep tliai happened ttot
to meet with the Approhation cf I'ar-iamcnt. tho' J do not
qucllion h> having been fupponed and enforced hy «ll the
Metliodi afuj) of liit Yean, in fuch C^fes. I mdke do
Doubt but ever^ one, who pofTefled or hoped ivt any
Place or 06ice under iheCronvn, were tbieiincd uithk DU-
appointnieni to tbeir Hopes^or tbe Lofs of ibe Places itiey
psffclTcd. it" mcy voted Bgainll it i and my Realou for sot
doubting cf thi) )!•■ becatifr feveral Nob'emen and Ge«lk-
men were tbe very ixxt Year turned out oi erery Place
the Crown could take frani tlietn, lor no other Kp^ysieat
RcAton, but becaafe they or ihcir FrieiKJi voted »gittift
that minUtcTuI Projcd ; and, {o far i.i I c:n recoiled. [ ijo not
remember, rbai any ooe Who voted .igii&H it ha: ever fince
obtaintd a Fivottrfrom the Crown, aa,ci\ it be fuch, sj have,
b)' tlicir Coc<^u^( tlnce, (hcwn.thftt they hcjnily repented of
ibcif Stubbornneis at that 1 imc. I believe every one thil
hwrs me uill fuppofe 1 mean liie J^xciie Scheme, whkh
WJU cert-ifl'y one ot the wealccO, or one ol (be wkkedeit
l^rojeCti that wu ever /ct on i-'uot. or countcoance.), by any
Minilirr in ihii Kingdom. If our Miniiicr was fcnfitilc of
ibe great Pawer that Scheme would have placed in tbe Haodi
of a Mmiltcr. and liud realty formed a Dctign to ovmuia
by ihJi Me&ns the Liberty ot the People, be ought to be tot
ooly removed, but puniOird for hii Wickednelii aod if be
«-ai Dot fcnbble of the Danger that wouid mccrue from tbai
Scheiretu our C'un 11 notion, if be liad really no View, tm
the preoriitu) Hope of thereby making a little Adiittioo
to the public RcvcTuc. particuUrly to tbe Civjl-Ltfi, t mnA
Uy, hit W c;iknefi was amazing ; for it fticued, that he Gei-
thcr undertltKid the Genius ot our Conliiiutioo, nor the G<"
ntut of O'jr People. If be had undeiilood the Genioi tf
our Conllituiion, hccould not but be fenbblc of the drflroc-
live tAc^tt (hat Scheme tault necefpinly have had upoo if :
If he haJ undcWIood tbe Gcniui of our People, it a tmpel-
iible to luppole, he would havejidviicd his Majerty to have
Toif.'iied tbe AJle^tions of the whole People, lor tbe Ut
of making an uocenam. and at bcft, but a u'lBing Ad^dOB
to ibr Pubiic, or Civtl LiU Kereauc.
• Tlw,
(73 )
' Tito** Sir. if be had ne«r been guilty of any other / 14, Ceo
Of Overitgtit, for thji Prajed alone he J-rcrvcs at '* KAo.
ill to bff removed from hii Majclly'a Coarnli : and the C^'"V"'\J
iReHtBtaient he fliewed agiinll cnufc. who v.i:cd ngjinff chii
|kij fiifouf ite Scheme. 11 a Koof of whar he nr-w pjjl'cty
")-u he hat made afe of. rhat he wilF milcir uie of, the
■ if (he Crown, far Dbi:<<ning n cornipt Mijonty iq
J iouiei of pArliimrnt. What happened upon t<»i» Oc- .
U aa ev'ucnc DemQnltriti.in, thir he his ti> lucK
already got, in a great tneifure, the NcmioJtion of
fixieen Peers to rcprcfcnt the Pcemge of ScoiUod in the
Hoofe ot Ptrliatnent. W« mjy remtmUfr, liiat fcven
ciKht of the Gxtecn, who then fat in (tie other HouV,
"ired Ofen'y agjinil this Scheme, and [irevailcd with
c*' ihcir Kriend> in this, to vott ags-'i ;t it: What was
ConrMjuL-occ ? Kvcry one of ihcm, tho' they hid great
!n[errft amnng (he Peers of Scotland, were, at the
;Ek^iofl,e(rcIt>dedby rhij MimHer's Interefl from be^ng
"' nj and every one of them that enjoyed any Poll,
the Plnlurc ot the Crown, had the Honour 10 be
hii Majcrty*> Service; 1 hy, the Honour, bemafc,
a Cafe, I tbiEtk it is the grcatefi tlonoiir tbe Crown
low.
It waaTd be endlets. Sir, to reeounl every Alfe 5;rp thii
..I-, v,, ,jf,^c JB ide Conduft of our aomcfl c Affiirj,
I llitll Diencion only one mote, which 'u ihe
'■batioii he procured, but two Vcari ago, from
I that Convention which he had jull befi^ie
lu^i:s.i H-i:h Spain. At the Convention iifelf relatik 10 •
forei^ A^in, I [h-ill not here enter into the Merit! of
I ttuli iicre conlider noly the Method he look to obcaiD A
ititg j4f> probation of it ftom Pirliatncnc, which w- b/
I - ^ tTcverstionj, th;it the SiMniHi Court wai tcn&-
Vk c r.g been in the Wrong 10 thu Nation ; rK«i ica
Igreci.'g to pay aoo.oool. .11 he reckoned It. to ut in n'lne
ci Oama^t, wai an AcknoivJcJgment of it: baving been
in t:; - : and that hil Catholic \!;ijelly nnd hr* MiiU-
JUn ' "gly jrkd finccrcly inclined to do ui jjllicc,
ritk rcgaiJ to ihc future Security of our Trade and Navigi-
iiR the American Sen ; (mm whence he concludfd, ihil
wr had not got all we might eipe<i by the Cunvcntioa*
liluclk KOj but a preliminary fteity, yet it vr\i a ^ood
roMdaltM lo build 00, And might prcbabTy, if liic Uoufa
toihe Miirrlt ihrn (novvd for, produce a foTid ad
lltifg Pe ■tx: whErcu!. if tJic Addrets ihatifd be d'figrred
>, ihc immediau Confeqllcnce woulJ b« a War ivitb Ssdid.
Vofc. VII. L ^•'I
(74)
■ f msy apncal. Sir, almoU lo every GcDtlenin tbu^
hoir» me, i( i^it uai not ihe Strrngttt of the Arguo^eatjBI
fnvocr c! ihar Ad-lrc{; : I may appeal lo man]' ihat vojm
(at It; it Itieif dcpt titling upoatw Tiuih of ihefr Aflc?^
raiions was not ilic only RuTon fur (heir agreeing to (b
rmch US a fecniing ApprcSMiion of that inrimoui Convtn-
lion ; but frcm ibc Conlcqu^nMs, pnd Itkeuifc fiom the
Papen. impcilcfl .-i tbcyaic, li^d before ui, it ttow «pp«m,
ttiJt :here wit oo( ihe IcaA Ground for ary of thdV AQit*
vcraiiuns It appeart, that Spain infilled tipon hnvtng our
Nivigation ja the American Sc.is regulated, that ii to fiy,
they loCfled it Ihoutd not be Tec : I'bat Spain iaAlled apot)
our Soutb-i^ea Compaoy't P'^ing them a mod unjuA De-
tDADd of 6S.000I. which reduced the Sum ikey were 10 pajr
us by the Convention, to 17.000I. and this was not near tbs
Value of the Sliipi ihcy bad before acknowledged to hare
been unjullly taken from us, and had a^ua )^ difpatcbrd
Orders to the Wcit-Indtet for their Rettitutioo, ai appear*
upon the Face of ibe Convention iife'f; foibit their agree-
ing to pay th» Sum was fit from being even a t^cit Ac-
kno\hl(dgment of their having no Right co Hop »nd fcarcb
cur Ship* upon the high Scd. and to feize and confifcaie
thein. it tltcy )iad any of thole Goods on board, which the
S[>aaiards are pleafed to call contraband : It was ottljr u
Acknowlcdgmeni, that feme of om Ships hid been, even
upon thi> Foeiine, unjuAly {eized, which theSpaoiUi Court
had cxprtltly acknowledged, Jcng beibre the Convention
was ihought of: Tbcfc. Sir, were the Terms the Spaniard*
infilled on i and they farther inClled, as now plaiolyip*,
pears, that we Oioutd keep no Squadron at Gibraltar or
Ponmahcn, nohviihibnding their being now a Part of the
Britrlh Dominion; i from whence they would, I foppoffl,
have taken Occafion in a Hiori time to iaCtXi, agsialE ua u
IcaA, that tbey liad a Dominion orerlhe Meditcrratievn, ai
well as the Amcricao Seas, and that our Ships Qioutd iwt
fail in the former no more than in the latter, but by theu
leivc, and according lo (uch Dircflion;, or if yoa pictfr,
Regulaiioni, ai they Ibould prtfcribc.
* Thefe. 1 lay, Sir, were ihe Terms of PcACC [be Spaoi-
ardi inCflcd on : L'nicfs we lliould agree to tbefe har(i|||||
dt(honour;ib!e Terms, the SpaniQi Court oevo (bcwt^H
Icstt tnclinatioo to live in Pc;ice with us, as appears ^H
ibe whole Tenor of cur Negotiations previous to the Con-
vention. On we fuppofc thsi our prime and (olc Minifter
w*i ignorant of thu ? Can we fuppofe that be beiicrcd or
imagiBed, that a fafc and honoorable Peace conld b« cwft»
clodied with Spun upon the footing of the ConvcDtMa.
o-or^
(75) _
'Other Foocing. whillUliey connnufd lotnlift upon Annsu.Gco.
Iw:»n. f Whii ihcn Can we think of (Iic Argument ** -'740'
be Bvle ufe of for obuining from Patliim^ni i fort of Ap-
r,tr.!u,Mjn of hi» Ccnvfntion ? Mull not »■« concIuJc. (hit
l^urpafe h« aiTeritd what bc knew to be f.Ifc ? And
' ^<>r a Man CO fit, and to bc&r the chief Sway ia
of our Sovereign, who, in order to impofa a
_!.-].■. t Trcity upon bi» King and Country, afTcrted
1 0[w« Pirtiatncnt ivhat he kocw to be dbfolutely filfc I
I (b*ll now beg lesvc. Sir, co tntic notice of fome of
noil remirtvable Errorif if not Crimei, tn our Minitlcr's
..lb regaid to foreiga Affair*. Here too his
a began with a Mcafarc ttial could not but be
tiUctccAQi!; to the People, becaufc tt waBdidianourable to the
[Ntliun ; It began with a Ttery of Peace with Spiin, by
Iwtiich wcigiro} loicllore thcShipswe Had taken ft om that
tNMioa [n an open and juH War : and wttb a Ncgoti;>tion, 1
not £>y ID Enfi*gcmeDt, to rcflote Gibraltar and Port-
cD. 'viihoui llipuliiirg any Thing for the Advantage
1. Of uiiiAiniiig an Fxp'an<>(ion of thole Tiea-
t en then had bern mtfreprrlL-ntcd on the Part of
S'jon ifitr ihii, be cntcfcd into ihst clofe Kricndftip
_2urr<fpon(jcnfe witti the Court of France, which, to the
>i» Otf-ulvantJgc of this Nation, lias contijiued ever
arid wbich ha> now at laft brought the Balance of
ct tr^:o the uimult Danger, if noi to incrinble Ruin.
- '-^--1 remarkable and the mod pernicious of atl his
> pi7 :carurei vnt, the Conceit be look into hi^ Head
iaiu>>: .. .. of 172;. that [he lioufe of AulirJa was grown
1 CM poweifal, and ooglu tfaerefure to be pulled down. Tbia
:. wlieihcr hii own, or of French Oiigmal, made bim
. .to hi« late Majcily tliofe fnghtful Notioni of the
icrotii but imprwlicablc Engagcmcnti, whJcfc the Empe-
id Spain bad entered 'w.n, ty mc Treaty concluded be-
itbera at Vienna tn Hal Year; and thii pniduc'd the
Treiry n* Hsnover, which louied ibii Nation with the £x-
pc&cec! . Ittirt.a great Addition of ufelet
-r;-j's.r .1 wa« the moft ufclefs of all, a
;opi far fcvcral Ycarj. and large
i. whilft our Allies the French,
Jortuniy oioic tfifcar than we hid, from thacCon-
^ ibenrccn the Couip of Vienna and Mjdrid. ncithar
pHttbciafe>.M to any Expcncc, nor pick'd any Quarrda
ctk" '-i;!i 5paJo or the Jiaipciori bu; pBrrned tneir fia^
I in r . .nathe Time thai oar Triic to Sp^in was en-
ikc., .-,-.. afld our 7'rade to every othn Part of the WorU
L 2 iatcrruptul
tia* I
1
( 76 )
Annoi4,Geo internipteiJ bjr !!puiifh Privateeri, fitted out tnj ininiKJ by
":J^- French StiujcfL.
^■^''^^ ' J nee«l not meniion particularTy the fcrt.-il N^f^tlS'
tiofli, Preliminancs, P^cificaiioni, Conventions and Treat
wbici) Aii I'lcity of Hanover gave Birth 10, for cvtty N
ooiiaiioD we hive carried on , had every Titziy we have c
Clydcd fmce thai Time, may be fail 10 proceed from t
Original i and cvi:rir o'^e of them may jufliy be cilicd
irucCopy ofthe Oiigiful Tbey hive been a perfcdScriei
of Blunders, and, liWc u Nffl cf Ptlt-Btixe» from Germany,
rrem 10 be enclofcd in one another, .vich nothing but Etnpci-
rz'i in aay of then ; for I defy any Mao tn ftcw me oM
Ailvar.tagn this Njiion hai reapcj from any Treaty we have
r.cgotiflici for twenty Veare oill. From the laft Trt«ty,
indeed, I mis'i the Conveniioo, It may be fnid, we bav« rofs
tdfotnc Advdnuge, bcc4ufe it futc'd ui into a Wjr, wh
5s cenainly mo(c r|igit>1c than ihc drflruQire and difhono'
able Mcihcrl of Negotiation, we bad for (o many Ve»f»
tore been iovolved in j ixid ihii War might htvc been
frnicd with a real Advanugc, tf oar MmiKer had (faaug
.fit to r'jfti it, either with Vigour or commoa Difcmioo
but in the frofcc'itioti of the War hehaiadcd more weakly,
or ma'c wickid y, than be did in the Tinte of Peace:
^ime of Peace, he made ui become iheScoir of the Naiu)<
•>ourd aboot OS, by the Tedioufncfi and Perplcjiry of
Nc^o;i.ttiDni : In Time cf Wai, he hii made oi u
Ol Scurf) to oiu Bi.emtet, &r.d an Ubjed ef P'ly to
Friends, by the Vaflnefj of hii Preparations aru) the Pb£
'mlmJry it hit Aftioni. Oor Trade hi » been both oppre
ard m^ic^vCd for the Sake of fiititig out mighty ijquidro
tnd our Squ:droni have been fcnt ou(, either with Orders t
do nt'thing, or wiihour Mutcrials proper for doittg tt-f
Thii'.g- By thii CortJufl, Sir, our Enetnici have been en-
riched with oar Spoils, and our own People opprc{red with
Armies, which either Oioold not have been i«i(ed, or (hon'^
have been fcoc out to vindicate the Honour of ihcirCogoi
Shall we io rhit Houfe fit Aiil and ies the Cauncili of
Sovereign ^irc^ed by a MIntlter, who hat ihu), both
Pejceand War, cxpufed oar Country toScomand l>rif)'
1 beg Pardon. Sir. for taking ap fo much of your I'i
but thcSubjcA is fo copiau?, that it t» difficult to pick
thofe Fafla that are mofl proper to be mentioned ; and tr
part of hit Irnig Ad mioifl ration ti fail of fcch opprcflivc ttii
dangeroui Schcmef, or fach unaccountab^ Btunden,
it is not cal'y for one who hii a tnie Regird fi?r bii K
.and Country, to pnft ary of them over in iilcnc*. I ^i
nicttuoiied but t izw, what 1 bare mentioned wiU 0»ew,
( 77 )
Difcooteott of tbe People are far from bsAg grounil' AnnBf4,Gee.
bat foppolc thrr were, they tvoiild neverlhclcb be i IL if^o.
iBftcicm howmiition far the Addrrft I am to propofc i for X.y'Y'^J
to Mia. who hit been fo unfortubaa at to iocur the pohlic
Hktnd, Ought Vf haw any Share in hrs MajWly'a Confidence
pr Comdit. if hii Msjcdy were fenfihie of ii, I am fure. be *
tJttM • Rc^rd for (lie Afft-eiJon^ of hii People, that lie
"" " not allow fuch ■ M»n to approach his Pcifoo or Pa,-
and li it ii our Oucjr to intoim bis Majclty, how de.
k'-e this Mimtter it :o the Majority of titi People, we
' ;o uJce the proper Way for giving oor Sovereign this
tioQ, which ii, by adJrctring him to remove fuch a
il*i-r ffrim l.ii CoUDcilS
■iir, Tifpore this M>nifter had never been
i^^^j w. uu, t..>itic. Enor. or Ovcifight in hi* public Con-
■d; fapporc the People had all alonj^ hem perte<)ly pleai'd
■:■■'■ *■- ^^ '' in, yei the very Length of it is, in a
' Cnufe for removing htm , Tt i* a molt
^^n^nuv.] I xiin^ in 4 ftce Government, \.u allow any MAb
.B ooannoe tou loo^ in the Poireflion of great Power : Molt
LomOKM-aciltbi htve been overturnei'i by thi* vtry Over-
l^ht i Uti ia this CouQtry, «ve know how difficult It lui
Mtea prorrd. far oar Pailtament to draw an old Favourite
JhMa bcbiikd tbc Throne, even when be hat. been guilty of
lie aMd beniooi Crimes. I wifh ihii may not be our Cile
titmi fbr cho* I Ihill nut hy, not have I at prefent
|Oocifior for (hewing, thnt the Favaarite I am now com-
Mog rf faai been guilty of hcinoot (Jrime«, yet J will
n ita very general Sufpicion ng:iii>ll him. that
> a n juilifiKl by the prefcrt Siiustion of odr
lib At Home and Abroad, and thnt 11 is ridiculous
^ :Jiit any proper Diicovery (hould be made, ai
u be It ia Pbl&ffioo of it) the Proofs, and hat lh«
ittoo of all the Peniilties the Crc»wn cun inKiA, as
I «t oT all the Favouri the Crown can beflow. Remove
from the KingS L'otincilt and Prefcncet remove him
iboTe high Officer Jnd Pauer be ii now poOVffed of,
bai been guiiiy of any Cnroci, the Proof may then
Vtoiac St. aod ibe WitncfTct againfl him will not be afraid
Mfcir- IMl you do thu, ic i* tmpofTib'c to dcttrBUac,
b« i> goitty or innocent t and, ronh>1eriRg the unt-i
OstnooT againll him, it i» high Time to reduce htm
CoadibDo. aa that he may be brought to a fair, lo
tl. and a (ItiA Account. If be were eofifclooi of
^ bek( «Btire!y innocent, and had a due Regard to the
fccaiiir aad G^ory of bit Miller and Sovereign, he won Id
iCKrfcio havep«n Jiimfell into litii> Coaditiua long be-
fete
r 7«)
Amo i4,Cco. fore tliia "nine.: Since he bas doc cbonght fit lo do lb, ail
U- ■740' our Duty to cndcaTouT to do it for him i and thei«biti|
X.y^\'^*^. flull conclude with movtog. That an humble Addrefc I
prefented tohii Majefty, that he would be gncigoil/ pj«il|
to lemore the Right Honourable Sir Robert Wafpolc,
* of the moft noble Order of the Garier^ &r& Comm
Chancellor and Under-Treafurer of the Ejechequer,
of hit Majefiy's moft Honourable Frivy Council, (rou I
Majelty's Frefance and Councils for ever.
Mr. Pelham. «
Si a»
Mr. Pelham. * ^^ ""^ ^^^^ ^^'^ '^^o threatened with foine fqch
ai this, I have for a long time expeAed it with Iiq
becaufe I imagined, they who thus thrFAtcned hid
fome Oifcoveries. which the World had never been k i\
Icaft apprifed of. I little expcAed tbey would iui<i-|
tempted toblackeuthe Charadex of a.n Honourable
man, who has ferved bis Country for many Vears, la
high Offices, and in three feveral Reigns, and alwaya, io
Opinion, with great Wildom and integrity : I fay,. 1 "
cxpe£ted to find any Attempt made to blacV.cn fuch &
tleman*> Chara£ler, upon bare Sarmiles aod^ general
ments, which have been all fully aofwei-ed, again md
bothwichio Dcortand without; and X mud fay, X «»
much furprifed to find this Attempt made by Gem
who have never been fufpeded of being Enemies to
prefent happy Eliablifiunent. If the Nation bad new ai
been fo unfortunate, as to have a Majority of this H
oonfiiling of fucb as were fecret Enemies to the Frotei^i
Succeifion, I fliould not have wondeied to find thl& Gcadr
man's Cbara&er attacked, as it hat been once btforc by ii^
Men : I (hould not have wondered to have heard a Mo^
made for removing hioi from bii Majafly^^ Councils u^
Prefence. for this very Reafon, becaafc he baa flieWA, ilv
he deferves to be there; but I am furprifed to hear fuclti
Motion made by thofe, who have always prorcJtcd, and I
believe firccrely profeflid, themfelves Friends to our h*0
ConUitution, and to that upon which it depends, our pretoM
happy Eftablifhment; becaufe fuch a Motion upon fuch t
flebder Foundation I take to be inconfident wiih both.
* I (hall grant, Sir, that this Houfc mayaddfi^fs theiud|
to remove any one of bis Servants : 1 fball grajjt, v^ km
Precedents for fuch an Addrefs ; but I will fay, tb<
dents are very few, and I believe, no one upon our
for removing a Minifter, who was not accufel of.
abac was acRiiowIedged to be a Crime. Ji thii
( 79 0
;! Hal fheHoaoonble Gentleman who midefou (be Anno 14, Get.
I, inentionrd any one tumculir Faft that is «cknow> 11 1740
tD be ft Crime? He hys, the Gcatlfman Jie defim ly^^^J
I' an unpopular Miniller: That he hai in-
■cd of thf Prople In geneni ; ond that ng
jit :q be confin.iH in his M»jcfty'» Councils or
wbo has had tlic Mr»fortunrtoiinro. ThitArgn-
r. has, I think, ibe Mitfortane to laboar under two
liont. Thr Prcmifci I muft look oft, «i a foit of
le QucQton 1 and the Condulion ts not, f think,
fiytn the Prcmifei. The Honourable Cimclemn,
io6a(l i» the Sabjed of thii Debarr, may mx. ptr-
chc Minion of tke Mob, which bo XliniOer ever
c», who jMtfucs. wifely. &etdi[y, and invariably, the itdc
ricft of hu Counir)'; cfprciallj'ttf he continues for 1
Nnaber of Ynn to hitre a principal Shite in the
aioifiit'"" V^- Popolace in all Countrtn lore to b«
w ',r«, and nflonifhcd with cxtnordinatjf
lib. i..i.,-o-re they ore «pt to grow weary of a
' nrlio roniiTiuei long in Place, and does not, with or
Rofbn, ihvLilve hit Countrp in \Var, which is the
Meiliad hy which he can crilertaiit ihcm with wotider-
tEvmtt. {t>jt thn: ttit\ Gentleman has incurred the Ha-
the Setter ri.ri t»f People in grneral, I belie»c, will
.kf, hy tlie Fate of this very Motion;
J thii Houfc are iheir Rtrprcrcntatives
ill i'w^vi iiJ'ig? of their Scinimenta hy whjt appears to
SentiniKnti cif the Mijotity ot this i\l{cmbly,
rer, (ii[j»ofc. Sir, it were irdobirably l:oe. that
itfler tiad incurred the Difpleaf-ire of the Majority
ilu oi Pe^pl.-, I do nut iliink cfiii a good Rofon
ling hfi Char. fler with fucH a Stigma, ai an AJ-
thn HonUe to remove him frotn hit Mujcl^y't
I and Prcfrrcr for ever. A fjintms Poet, whn fhtfwed
£OW( ' at well ai an exteOent I'lr'ge of
}, Mt. ;- -^ .- J, of a virtuou* Man, laid ih,i do*ft
I Mil 1(11 ',
Aaa /amit aut famii /laau
^ittrit fapuUru aura.
People; eren rbofc of the better fort, we hut «rjr bad
of a Man'i Virtoe or Wifdom, and ihey are much
! JslgKiof a MiniHrr*sConiiu(l m pofiricai Aflfiitsi h»r
to tu()g# rightly of thn, we mutt have a thorotigh
Kamfedsc. tut only of the r&terclh and Clrcutnttancc? of
a«Cc«Rt'T. trot of theCitcumliaiicc*. Jnttreft^, and Views
jBJ >n »liC tomgn Conrn we have any thinj* to do with 1 aoii
in
( So )
A.rino u,Gco ui order (o know the Views of iortign Cooni, we Bolbe
fl tT¥> pcrfcd Y Bcquainied uitli the Cbara£lci» of ihoCc i^hobcar
^/~V~^ the prinripAl Sway at each. Can w« fuppoiie aay Jvhm «f
iiUcnor kank (o have fuch k Knowledge ? It ii a Know-
letJgc, Sir, tbal cin be scqjired by none but [hofe c( lugh
Rank, or (ucb at have beeo in Cooie cmicent Sation i aM
therefore wc are not to CDOtirtnn the Condud of a MinilLer,
?ur no other Realoo but bcciulc it is compUinrd of bf ibe
Majority of (he People, iiar ought fuch a general CctnpbjBi
to be admiued at a good flealon for removiog him troio tlie
King's Councili or Preicoct. Among the maoy other Per*
fcAioos of our ConlltlutioQ. this ti oae. aivd none cf tbc
leal), that the Cammoo-wealih ii not to be deprived of tic
Service or Advice of a Hile aod fuithful MagiUrate or M>ai<
flcr. fur noothci RcafoD. but beuufe a gcneia', but growul*
kf) Clamour hai been lufcd Againft fome Parci of bia Coa-
d(i!l 1 litetrlorc^ whatever CUonourt nvay have been raifol
Bgamit lome Parts of his Conduct, they ought not of thetti'
fclvei U) be of aoy Weight in tbii l>cbi{r, even iho' it were
proved, tbai the Honourable Gci.ilenuD, now dciited to be
remttved, hnd all along had not only the chief, but the ible
DircAioQ of all our public Affnirs, which ba« not bccti ai-
trmptcd to be proved, tho' I coofcfk, it ha» been llroogly
(lllrrted ; btu if I Ihould take upon n>e toaHrrt tbecoatrtn',
1 moll think I have an equal Title to be believed, bcaw,
oonfideiing huw luog, and in what Staiiofis 1 have fcfVcd htl
Majefly^ n>y Knowledge of the Fid mtill be at IcjO a.s wtU
fbandM.andlhope.my Veracity ii equally to be dcpcndedoo.
• The Grouadi of the Clamours and Complaint*. ci'Jwr
within Doors or without, aie therefore to be liriAly rx-
aniinrd, bccaufe they ate the only Arguments that can ban
any Weight in tbii I>cbate ; and as there has been MXhllg
new advanced upoti ihit Head, nhaievcr Plealurc Genlrnvea
iisaf take in repeating the Objcfitons that were made, m tbe
idpc6ive and only proper Times, to the feverut Stcpi of nrr
public Condisd now complained of. I hope, Sir, they wfl
pardon me* it I do not take op your Time with rcpe«iB|
the Anfweri then m»de to them, which were fo btiihflciT,
that all the Meifurei now complained of, except, i
but onr, mri wiih the Approbttioo of one or both H • ■
FwliiaiTRt.orwiththefiul .Approbation of cither; buc.lotu
Ai it prftcrcded, it met with the Approbation of this Hoisiit.
Aud It wa^ nqi dropt becaule it was bad in itJcli. botbcrurft
of the Spirit (bat h>c! I^co rsifld ag. ir>tl j^ without DooiL
la all Countriei there at cemin Ptrjvdicei which iiotluN|
boi ahfotuie Power cao get t:ie licttcr of In thit Country ■
gcncrjl ExcidE hat been made luch a Buj^bcar, dut tJsc iVio-
pk
(ai )
_ in^ u every Tbiog wkich hai bot the leaft Anno
ibUnce of it j ind thit WA> Utc CftCe with reg»nj to the "-
[^oJ [t(«Q propofoi for taiCng the Ouiin upoa Wine
iLco, wtiich uiighi 41 utell h4V*c been called agcnerAj
m a ifetxtal Excifc. A gcncrj Excife, Sir, U
I * Dtity it >iihi upon every Thing 4 Mao cao eat,
4imk^ or <oulLjmri jnd tint Duty tailed not upan the
tafportcT ind Manuf^tuter, but upon the Reuikf ind
OrftiTT" Thii. iodced, would be a terribte Gricnnce;
^B> was ibcre any Thing like this in the Excise Scheme?
^Ki tkac Time tbeie wcic. and are (lilt, heavy DiUiei apott
by V' ^ilom upon the ItDporuiion. which had oca-
(ooei'i ^'v«. . itadt uta Abvici ; thcrelbre, to prevent thefe
Frtwii. ind to crcour^ige the fair Trader, it wis propofcd ta
rai^ cIkv, Sot :hc future, noc upon the Confuiner, for IbJs
woald han louk'd lomcihing like a gcnetal F.xcife, but upoo
lh» Renilen. and upon them only. This, I ftil) think. Sir,
wt* i>cttl»er a bt4, nor an uppfcQivc. nor a dangcrou Scheme;
bu iJ^ ap^D a mote mature Dciiberttion. it h^id appeared to
be (d* ifte Honourable Gentleman, who at firit pjtonized it,
t» not to be cuudrmned, beciiulc »t (oun ai he faw that the
Ptapir f h(M.(<<it It lu, tbo' he perhaps thought otherwire, yet
httrr- itup. Minillen, Sir, areaai infAlIible : No
|9od >)LI prrtcnd lobrfo) and therefore, the moft
wecaa trxpcii t, thai tbry fbould alter their Conduit ai fooa
u tbey ^icevcr ih^ir Errur. One ut me wiCell and greaiefi
Sof«ri rgnt we ever hod, (ho' ^dvifrd by a very good lod
able Miniilcr, fdl into an Error ■ ( oican the Cafe cf Mo>
aopolin. ia Queni h'.a ibeth'i Time : but ai foon at Ihe dif-
oe*cr<d it, ttie corre^iKl it and upua that Occafion made fuch
a Speech, by Way cf Anfwer to the .Add.rfs of this Houfs.
^ta (Mcbt to be huDg up io the Cabinet of evtry fuvereigri
^Hmii. Tbe Pariiintco: wax fo lar from coadcmn:ng the
^KiMv, for hii having advtted thcfe \fonopolie$. that thin
^^Hffent A rolema iJkputJttioa to thank the Queen for re-
HHSlbct Patiflti, in Aniwcr towhich flie made ihc Speech
Ikkve menttaned. 'I'herrfote, foppofing the Fxcjfc Scheme
have bees a vety bio cine, kc bave no Keftlon ti> blame
ty MbiSer for it ; beiiuie it was gifen up at foon at it
JmiiuI to bedifigTceaUc to the People.
M to t)ic Meibodi that were takeit in the Year
rsi, lor rcltoriBg public Credit, and lor pumOi-rg tbofe
ittid brought ti to the very Brink of Delliu^liL'n, they
fe Bueh approved of at tha; Time, both within Doora
wiikout, Utu I am furpinud to hear tbam oow com-
V#t. VII. M ^»«m4
'♦.Oeo.-
( Sz )
'Anno u.Gm pbtoed of. The pul>ttc Credit w» in a iliortTimr
^■^L^ ally and amaaingly rellored.and the Guilty were condi_
,V.^T^w paniQied, without eithttr Sefcriiy or Partiality t and by it-
-^ocing the lotcTCft payable to the Proprietor! of ihc Soutli-
.SCk Stock, as it wat [ben augmented and cHabiKhed, a moll
■ catnordioary Advantage hai accrued to the Public. Tbcfc
:Fitfts are lo notorious, ard the Arguments in Favottr of whtt
'mi done at tbit Time, are io recent in every Mao's Mcno*
ry, that 1 (hould not trouble you with Proofi of the formtr,
pr a Repeiition of the latter. And for [be fame Reafon, I
think it anncccfTiry to trouble you with x Rc-juflificatioD of
the Hanover Treaty, or any of the Meafures conle<]uco(
thereupon. But as to the Complaint relating to the Con-
veoiton, and the Argumenti made ule of in Fivotir of the
AddreTi propofed, when that Treaty wat under the Confide*
ration of thia Houfe, as it ii fopiething new, 1 fliall beg
IcAve to make Ibme few Remarks upon it.
' In the lirll Place, J mull observe. Sir, that tliore who
make this Complaint feem to have forgot the Station ta
which the Honourable Ocntlrman, whofe CharaAer ft now
attacked, bai liwaya fervcd bri Majrlly. Even fuppefe be
were, as th«y icprtfent him, the chief aad fole Mioiflcr, it
would be impofibte for bim to govern and direA all eat
foreign Negotiations, as well as all the Affjiri of the Tm*
tary. He rauft leave the Msnagemcnt uf our foreign Af>
fiin to otherN attd mud take his Informaiioa, a« lo FiAt,
from tho:c that ate entrufled with the Management of (bem ;
therefore, when be is to talk of (hem in this Houfe, or any
tthcie elfe. be may be impoled on si well as otbeisi and
cunlrqucntly, ruppvfc he had laid in this Houl'e, that bti Ci-
tholir Mnjeliy wa^ inclined to live in Peace with this Nl-
don. or thAt the Spaeifh Coun feemcd willjog to ;agTee to
rcalonable Tcrmt lor fecuiiog our Trade and Naviguion in
ihe American Seat, when in Kafl it appeared lo be otlierwife,
we arc not from thence to conclude pofiiively, that be af-
finned whoibe knew to be falfe: It wouid be more charrta*
hie, and, I am fare, more confonani to his CharaAer, to
fuppofe. that he hud bimrdf been impofcd on, and that ht
had given lame Credit to our NrgotiAtor*, for he waa himfcif
Booc of tiicsi, than tbey defcrvcd.
' But, ^ir, I am tiitl of Opinion, that the FiAi wen soc
etherwife. I an convinced hii Catholic Majefly hiafirU'
trai inclined [O lire in Peace with tbis Nation ; and I la
coDviDced the Court of Spain would have given lu Securiiy
for the Freedom of our Trade and Navigation In the A.iiir>
rican Seu, if ^ny Mc[i]od could bare beeu contrii-cd for
peventirg ibc illicit Tnulc cvtad oa with thcv Scitiemena
ia
f 83 )
LI America. Thli 1 Tittle Time might probably bavc pro- Anno u. Ceo
if the Peop'e here cou'd iiave been prevailed an to
had Patience, and m (hit Cafe, the Coiireniion would
-' *: good Foundation for a (olid and ladirtg Peace j
u'onEd (ithfy the Feuple here, but iiiiincdute
r. and Sctutity, or an immediaie War. We know
were that inrtigaied the People 10 be fo pcremp-
tir Demand) ; and \ (hsll not fcrupte to own iciis
ijrOpibioB, thai, by the violent Spirit JlirroJ up among onr
fcoplc here at Hume, oar Miniflcrs, of whom the Gentlc>
MH DOW complained cT is bat one, were, in fome ojcarure,
farood into Meiiures that hare fioce forced the Natioa into
iWir,
' Gcndesnea m»y lay what thejr pleafc of the Sum of
MoDc/ agreed bv Spain to \x paid to ui> for the D-Jtnagei
ivrftdl&iDvd by the Depredations ; but. Sir, 1 will new again
•fim. iKai they agreed to pay us ico.ooot. and would
kavc Immei'uttly given Ordcn for the Payoieot of it upoa
tkaif Crvrroufi in the WelMndics; but we know the I'e-
db*. :.e(e Payments, therefore we lofifted upon hav- ■
ieg V Money, ind upon that Condition wc iigrccd.
1 t: -ly agreed, 10 allow ^.j.oool- for prompt Pay-
oaen; reduced tbc -oo.oool. to ijj.oool. and out of
tfati ttwis both reafonable and jui>, to allow them todcdi>ft
wbtt wai dot 10 ihcm. on Account of the Shipi agreed to be
tcflot'd to them by theTre^ity in 1721, amounting to 60000I.
winch rrduced what they bad agreed to pay to at oa Account
of O&mign to 9), 000.
* Thu«, $ir, it appear}, thAt they had ft^ually allowed us
iDOjOOol. in lieu of Damages. Thisw.-isi( gre;it(leaIaboPB
the Value of sll the Ships chcy had ever before acknowledged
to have bfcn unjjtlly fcizcd or taken rrom u» ; and there-
fore, their sgrcring to pay as ihii Sum, was a tacit Ac-
Imwledgmeflt of their having been in the wrong ; and,
'itboat sny Regard to what u-ai due to them frotn our
South Sea Company, the B^Ianca a I hive llaied i(, and as
It wu ftated by the ConreBtion, would, I bclicve, have
barn paid to ui at the Time appointed, if we had recalled
ov Squadron from Gibr^liar; but. confidenng the violent
Spini that prevailed here at Home, cur MiQiIlcr:> cou'd not
KUDn 10 do (0, for fear of having our domeilic Tranquil-
»fi/! jrlxil by bme furioui, popular Commonoo ; and tho
I .n looking upon the Continuance of our Sqiia-
; -. '-'^ ai an Iniult upon their Crown and King-
^ re^ :.- The95.oool. flipalated by the Conven-
'1 i^. i...^. had no ftight to look upon our keeping
« ^aaJroa i( Cibntlur ai an Infalt, is certaiDly true ; for
U 2 ■■
^
( 84 )
ntiH, Geo 19 tt is now the PrD|ierty of Grest Britain, we may al««7t
IL 1740. iteep a Squadron iMre if we pleife i but, u we had never
before done To, ai we had never fcnl or kept a S^kuuiroa
there, unlcft •Pbhcn we had a Diffutc^iivith fome of th«
neighbouring Powen, and as we Kad then 00 Dilpure wiili
any neigbbouring Power, except Spiin, it wntraiunUy 10 ba
(sppofed, I believe, all Europe did luppofc. thjt we kept oui
S^ttidron there, with a Dc()gn to oblige theSpiniatds m
peifoim punflually what they had promii'ed by tnc Cornren-
tioai and in thi* Light it mult beadraiued, thai the Com
of Spain had fome Reafon to look npon itai an Infult t (0
tbo* I fliouM be very ready (o do a Man Jufticr, 1 (bogld
like to have hitn lizad with bii Cane over my Had till 1
did if : I fliould certainly difdain 10 do him Juilice, ta k>B{
ai be flood in that Podure.
• From bcnce we miy kc. Sir, that the Argoincnii mada
ufe of in favour of the Addrcfi propofcd, when uc had ihs
Conreniion under our Con lid em ion, can be no Obj''Aioa to
the Charadtrr of ibc Hucouiable GeotlcmaQ atiatked by
thii MoiioQ ; and ai to our Condud of the War, it ti, |
am fure, what he has noihing to do with, any other Wii*
tfaao ai bfing one of his M3Jcl()'» Coancii t to that whu-
ever un be bid agatnft oar ConduA of the War, mull mili*
late againll every Member of hii Majcfty't Piivy Coundl ai
npch as ag:iin{l him. Bu: the chid, and, indeed, the only
proper Charge that bai been made ■ninfl him i>, hii hav
iDg endeavoDred to obtain a cotrupt hifl-jence over a Maj»-
rity in both Houfes of Pailiairent : for that he hat already
obtained itich an Influence, will not, I hope, be exprcfily,
affirmed, bowcTcr flroogly it may be infmuated. Tliti
indeed, a heavy Charge : bat furely Qcnilcmen do not
prA we fhoald take tbii upon tbcir tfje Mxit. It i» a Pi
which, if uue, mtj certainly be proved : Let any one Mem
berof ih>i Houfe rife up, let any one who baa beca a Mem'
ber eomr, and Uy, that the Perfon now accofed ever dc
bim, or tempted him either by Thrcati or Proinif<:s to v
againfl hi» Confctcnce io Parliament ; and we ihall
h>ve it in our Power toconfider tbe Weight of the Ev
offered i but furely we o-jgbr not to condemn a Klaii upoa
general Charge uofupported by any Proof
* The Gentlemen, it is true. Str, who have brought th:
Charge, have ofiered tu'o Things in Support of ri, wk
requicc an Immediate Con&deratioo. Toe one i>, a (uri cyf
prefumptive Proof, and the oihcr, a pretended Confcffinn. I
uaU beg leave to examine both t and firfl, ai to the pi
fumptivc Proof, tber fay that fcTcral Pcrfooi, and fome
high Ruk. have been tamed out of every Ofice and "
ploy
1
( 85)
r^smi dkey hcM it the Plea(ure or the Crown, for eo Annm^, Cee.
MftCT Bffnmn lleafo*, buc bccaofe they or thtrir Friendi I^- 1740'
op9«{fldibi« Mi*iiil*-.-'t Wtifures in Pariiamcrt. Here, Sir, ^*^^'y^\J
I ■>■> lAifeivf, chat tlic King hii. b)* our CoDftitucton, la
mltmoil Prcro|>ative to employ whit Seivjnu or Offirert
he- pl«liei in tt.c cxrcuovc Pan of our Govrrninrnt, and
EUJ> Imploy or diif>:Ke wlioui be pIeJ^e^(vilhout nfliinethe
iUvictol aay Minilicr i adJ thefcfbre. ihe Exercire of tliis
Www esB Bcirrr be cturgnl tn the Aeconni of ar.y Mini-
Irr, I AmQ %nax, thit the turning a (Jetrtkm.in oat of hJi
Poi ia tiM Service of the Crown, (or vuiing according lo
CaaCeicace ia Patliament, ur for oppoGng any Court-Mn-
bra he eoald nor approve of, wooid be a very wrong and a
dftOfcroaA Cxercifeof hii Prerogative ; but at the fame time
Ra£ take aotke, (hat an Oppofliion in Parliament may
mch, ms will iffard a juf) and legal Rrafon for turning the
^[^r out al the Service of the Crown : When it is in-
lertljr xai iodccenily carried on. oi when thcOppofilion
waceeda itoc fton Honour or Confcierice. but riom mere
RdinniBmt, bcc^dfe the Cientleiran has met with a Deniftl
Ifcff — *■ ■'■•, nbich hii MajeQy did not think fit to graar.
■r ihelc Carej.cven a Man't behaving or voting
Tff»r,:.ni<:vi, Will be a good Reafon for difiniffing him the
Service of ia<e Crown. Bcfido ihefe.a Gcntleraao may be
gctltf flf feverjl fam of OScitce& no way relating to hli
ncbtrknir inPjrliameni, wiiKh highly dcierve a DirmilDon
^Wi Cbc Xing'! Service; and iho' hii Maji-ily infi-cli the
f«lvkcnt, be may, from bit naturut 1'cndcrni;f», and in
pncUtjruy to the Ofi^iider, be prevailed vn ncK to publilli
■dscfavr the Oflrnce. Thertfort. when a Men:ber of Par-
laacat T-J the Service of (he Crown, thu' hi» Ma-
jrty ik>r mil fit tt) declare ihe OfTincc, it i* a Breach
cf Chanty in m, »nd a Fdilurr m Duty to out S<3veieign, lo
It?p4ft, tbat bit Mnjttljr dilniiiTed him for no ocner Rnfbn,
\j£ fur corfditig (fac DUlaieiof hit Hunour and Coafcieoce
2?J-'M--,<fK
ir, with regard ro the pretended ConfcfuoD or
• - b, which bat been repreiemcd u fuch a hcinooi
(^nac 8cppo& the Honourable (Jcatlemso had tnade ufe
'f '•■-■ *«fjr Word* thar have been mentioned, we ooghi not
•1 oJce tbciD in a wrong SeDfe, if ibey will bear x
,.-jb ooe i and ibctcfgrc we mght lo fuppofr, ihat he
■cKMC. br oppofiog a MioiAcr'a Meaiures in Parliainetit,
*m u OppOBiioQ [bat proceeded from a Conviction of
Actf fanmf wraag, bat an Oppafition (bat pioccrdrd frntn
■cTc RefcatncBit from a ^hujvi Spini. or from i liccrct
[i|« lo atapti ihe Kiog to cotDply with fome uotcafoa-
able
( 86)
Anno 1 4, Geo able Requell ; and in either of thefe Cafeg, [ will join with
^^J^- the Honourable Gentleinan ii: faying, Tliat he would be t
)^/r'^\J pitiful Fellow of a Minifter, if he did not advife the King
to difmil's from his Service, a Man who made fuch an aa-
worthy Ufc of his Seat in either Hoafe of Parliament.
' I have ngw, I thiokf fliewn, Sir, that no partkalir
Crime has been fo much as allcdged, much lefs prored,
againft the Gentleman whofe Cbara&er li propof^ to be
ftigmatized by an Addrefs of this Houfe ; that oo material
^jedion has been made againft any Part of his Coodod,
but what has been before anlwered to the Satisft&ion of the
Nation, as well as of this Houfe; and I hope 1 have fall/
anfwered every thing new, that has been Aarted in this De-
bate i therefore I mull think, that our agreeing to this Mo-
tion would be a mollfignal Breach of ourConftitution, and
a molt dangerous Encroachment upon,the Prerogative of the
Crown. We know. Sir, what a Ferment was raifed ia the
Nation in a late Reign, by a Proceeding of this fortt wc
know how it was then declared,'* * That addrefling the King
lodifplace his Friends upon bare Surmifcs, before th^ legal
Trial, or any Article proved, was illegal, and invenmg the
Iaw. by making Execution go before Judgment." Do
not now let us fail into the fame Error, Icit it flioukl produce
the f<me Effrfls.
• Before I conclude, Sir, I mull take notice of the Aigi-
ment drawn from the Length of Time this Gentleman bu
kid a Share in the Admin iHration : If the Form of oar
Government were altogether Republican, there might be
lome Weight in this Argument : but this is another Advao-
Mge of our happy Conllitution, that an able, a good and
wife Minifler or Magillrate may be continued in the Seirke
of his Country, for his whole Life, without any Danger to
our Conllitution, becaule the Attachment of the People u
their Kii;g and Royal Family, will always prevent anjr bad
H£e£ls from his Ambition ; and the Controul of a Mailer or
Suvereigii, as well as of two Iloufes of Parliament, will
always prevent his being guilty of very enormous PtaAiccii
or u'lil n: all 'i'imes, even when he is in the Zenith of hit
Pcucr, be able to difcover and punilh them, if he doald:
So that there is as little in this Argument, as in any Mher
tiiat has been advanced is favour of this MocioOi uA
tuerei'orc I Hiall give my Negativeto the Quellioo.
Sir
* ^<T»A Lit/f, Time III, Pagt 144.
C87 )
A nno I i, Cce.
II. 17 40
WJolm Dvrnanl.
• ftcft»r« tim Motioa was'madr, T expeded and I find, I Si\T John
taiDot dt£ippointed, thxt i-nt^eAVoors would be ufed to p«f lUnCanl.-
Iloutr, ibal we uu^ht not Lo ^ddrcfi for removing
tr. anlcf^ w« have lach Proofs a^iioft bim, ai m»y
rkoc firount! for itnpcxching him. Thii fccms to
Scope of [he Argument made u{« of by the Hououri-
10 who I'pctkc \tH, and if thii ivcrr to be admit-
never could be any Tuch Thing a an AddrcTs to
Mimltcr I fot \i 3, Miniller bai been guilty of
Ohdb, ftnd W any Member of (hii lloufe fli-juld have In-
, cictvof. Bad fuflkieni Kvidencc for fuppoiting the
beoufbt not cotnovc(or:in /Vidrcft to remove fuch
tr; iiwouldbc hi< Dui^ to Iiy hii Informaiion fully
iloule, and to couclucic with a Moctotl for im-
eiilier of Migh Treafon, or of high Crimci
lOon, accordinj; to the Nature of the Charge,
ncak, the moll continuKl Serici of blundering
eoaJd never be admitltd as * Koondition for ad-
dfctfiagCMir Sotereign ra remove him ; and thui, if he con-
tmmd IK tBc F«your cd'bii Prince, which it not al all im-
peCbte. be might go on b'underitig, till he had blundered
{■■■tfclf, btl KiD^ ktid bis Country into irretrievable Pcr-
j^^ t Onll grant, Sir, that ihia Hoofe has ferdom [proceeded
to aJdre6 <or the Remorsl of a Minifler, Dnlrr^ tte wa* fuf-
[Of foRCthing that was acknowledged to be criminal.
I did not proceed froiD itg being neceftiTy to alledge
ig r-- ' ;;■. a Foundation for fuch Bn Addrcfi, but
ne... • aregeoerally wicked 11 well ai weak:
l^r WcAKncii liicy run thcinfelvo into MealuTCi wfaicb
tbc7 find ibejr canaot juflify, and fjr which they ought to
be iCTPO«ed,and ibrn to prevent iheir Rcmo^ral, they le^
iWniclnn mto Mc^Turci for which ihey ought to b« pu>
adhed. Thii 11 the ime Rraiun why fuch AilJrefTct have
frnmenUf brra (ouaded upon theSufpirion cl Wiclceitnef'i
«wcfl 11 Wcaknt-i i bcciriic when there wcff two Reaffrts
Jot rcMoring .1 Miniitcr tioin the Kin^'t Cu'inrlli, (lie
•tn% cenjtnly in ibe right to infitt upon bmh. V\tt
It be Wciktxtt, or let it be WtckedntO, for which a
a to be removed, w|ll any Gentletnan fay, that ic
ry (o memioa particular Ka^g, and that we ou^hc
» kavca Proof of ihefe f'a^t), before we ciniddrcfi for ;lx
Jlasc*'! of^* Mmttlerf The Honuurable Gectleman utlce
ci bmtiiv^iiti ud gencnl Argument** at if they could not
( 88 )
Anno I4. Geo illbrd the lea.l Ground f^r fuch so Addrcft. Sir, they not
II 174P' only iffani Cuine Ground, but (hry are the only Ground
^^■^^"^J upon wKich I'uch an AdJrcfj cAn be founded i bocaufc wnca
there ii *ny Thing ^ri))rr thatti lure Surmife, we ought, u
' J have laid, lu go farther than a Uire AddreCi-
* But by fuch an Adilrefi, it fecnt, we are lo blackra the
OiitaAcr of 30 Honourable Gcotkman who hai reived hit
Country for many Vcirs. aod during fcverd Rngns, with
great Wifdum and Integrity, it ic a great Mufortuoe, Str,
to thofe wno hare To high an Opinion of hii Wifdom ud
Integrity, that tne general Voice ot their Coaotry u againJl
them, and that the Siiujtion of Affatri. both at home aad
abroad, frems to be a demon Drat ive Proof agaioll thcmt but
let the Honourable Gentleman'* Cliarrtftcr for Wifdom aad
Integrity be cvrr fo great, it cann>.'( be bLckened by tke
Addrets or thii Houlc, bccaufe a Man's Character doct not
depend upon whit a Cix^rc of Jultice doei or refuTes to do
Againtt hitn. but upon the Opinion the World hai of »hai
ft Court of Jullicc ought to do. Should we addred the King
to remove one iluic n ucneraUy (uppoted to be an upright
and wiie Mmiilcr, wouid ihat Addrdi blacken bu Clunc-
terf No. Sir, it wou>d only blall our own. Should wc re*
fufe to addreft the King to remove one who i* gcnenlif
thought lobe a wejk and wicked Minidcr. would ctut Rs.
fdlil brighten hii Char^iAer i No, Sir, but it would bUckcft
ihe Charafler of this Houle in the Efd of all thok Mko
fcftd luch »n Opinion of him.
* I hope Gcnilemen will confider this, and if ihrf 69,
I nm furc, they muU teficfl more feiiouHy upon theCoalb'
luiton of this Houie thaa they leem to do, when thr^ lay,
ttut the Sentimtnn of the Majority of the better Son of
People in the Nation, are to be judged of from what ap-
pears to be the Sentiment! of the Ma^ortiy of this Hoalc. It
u well known, i«r, how une(]ua11> the Nation it reprcfestal
in thii Houfc, I believe it will be allowed, that the Lit»
of IfondonaiKi WeUminller. the Borough of Souihwsilc. aid
the County of Middlcfcx, conuin at lead one £fth of ihi
People cf the whole Nation, yet they have bttt ten ftrprt-
lenutivcs in thi> Hou'e. which makes 00c qoitea jjth nn
01 the Number of Members in this A^rrobly : and what b
very remarkable. 1 believe, itwij appear, whatever miyfal
the Fate uf thii Motion, that cfthete ten, there will bcchkt
upon the ASnnative Side of the Qaeeftion, If weooBMr
our CouBtiesapd great Cities, and compare thcni with ou
lillic Boroughs, Ihe Difptoportion will be found almcA u
great, which ibcws. that we ought not to )udge of tbc Sn-
(imcau of tbc bcncr Sort of People, from wlut ippcaia teb«
{^9 )
ScotineBto of the MijoHljr of thU Houfci and i( Wt Annoi4,Gco
>-Xo*AicT, chit fevvnl Gentlemen of ibia Houfe nice upon "• i7<(o.
Ucn to voic. in nttny Qoeltioni, Agtinlt ihe declared Sen- C^V"*^
^_ltneMi of :heir CouUitucati, tbe F»U«ctournc{sof this way
^k)f i«dguig will appvsr lllll more apparent. Theicforc, I
^■mU Bot hive Gentlemen plume ttirmfelvei too much in i
^^^Krity cf thi> HduIc. or conclude from thence, that ihey
^^IHr • M-'jortty of the better J Jtt uf People upon iheir Side
tf tlic QjcAion i for if the Members of ifais Houfe ire to
be fuppcricxl to Tpeik the Seflitmcflli of their (.'cQtlituenii,
and if «e ci.<nliilcr tttC PL>Ce*. and nol the PcrTons. that vote
rj^ltion, it will appear, that llie Sen-
, of the better (ort of People ire
((urn what Rppeari lo be the Seotimcnu
: thn Houle.
U',c bjr ib» Kule, Sir, which is the only pro-
tgtr^. wf t^iit lind. that Ihi) Minillcr'i Con-
,ib.c Step, ivitli regard both to
, h*i b'-en dil'approrcd of by*
■Lttrr foM of People in the Matron,
»r tliix Hco'e; nn4 I am fare, no
Wtia fenoW) Jtiy ditn^ of whiC pilTci %vitfaout Onorf,
'prf ?rr i lo deny his ticirig cnmpiarncd uf. and even ex-
it by A fite;t Mijonty of the Pimple. In for*
-..., ^<t, ycK Piftiii tp y*K Dei, WHS held to be a
smong all r.itc who CilJetl tlirmrelves tf^jt ; and
'■■t>'!i th-^iii.'clMj, of whatever Dcnooiinaiton,
10 (hew t great Reganl to it : but I'mce we
i.i-ii ikio ihr CuRam of keeping up numetoui S;and-
(nniei, thik Mixim bi% been aupifed by nur Minillen,
by thoft: ' ' .1 . ., J tiitni/clvc) /f'Tsrji. «nd tha
or wi. i:cir PriendtcaU, the Mob.
J»eM rn tPtifiiiii', m It (I weir- pofiibic to iujppofc,
llutt Ue Populace, or mcinc:! foit, can be genrnlly mfcon-
mued. wAoi the 1> ;irc grnctnllv p'cjfcd with (ho
OWiIb^ of ODr yv < t iie Populace in alt Coun-
irka are tlkf Sc-vjirj , ^'J, mV-fi when agittud by (boio
Flaftcf cn(huritlt'.t.>l \l.:^r.(;h, [|icalc the ^entimenti of the
htnerk>n. The hltcr, 3i they havefotncthingio lofe be£3«
tkctf Live*, tm*" rirtf, psrhapj, be (o readr lo bresk oor, or
M fall tn:o ; Me^furCi aglirK un cllablillicd Go*
*«ntinrftt. bii', . :n the Cafe I have tucmioncd, the
CMS- '-.r tne Mob, never become otstr^giaus, unlefs
tfcrj i:ed iij» by Ihe Difcotitcnt) and (ccret Grum-
bUn^ at their )ttallcri. A wite ;and a gaci Minillcr will
ktikay>. therrbre, aimit Popnlarity, e«-rn atujnglt chemean-
ctt (an of PeepJe, bccaulc f'om theu he may moft certainly
\ql. VII. N Irua
(90)
^^pi^Oto. I«ni 'his real Charafler imong thofe of ihc b«tcr fort.
IL iT^o- 1 he fgrmer have nothing to hope for by flittering him, *nd -
V/YX»^ much lefi to feai than ihcit Mallert, from uttering tho<<
Comptunti openly and frrcly, which are in a fecrci, or ia-
diicfl DHnner, iclUlled into them by thofe that ^ivc ihoo
Biead.
• The People, I ftiall grant, Sir, are in all Cowicrict foiid
of Change) of Minillers or Magi 1) rate*. In free Countries
they are food of ihcm, becaale inch Changes are necrff«y
for the Security iQci Prefcrvatton of theRightiii>d Libc;ti<s
of the People; and in abfolute Governmcnti, a? MJnillen
and Magiflratci arc gcocratly opprcfTive, (he People have
Reafoa tobefondof any Change. TbiiFondnefi u ihere<
for< in all Coontriei founded upon foDd Reafani. and ac-
cordingly ne find, ih.it People of all Rank* and Degreea,
except Minitlen, And their Creaiurei, are eipully fond of
fuch Chingei i but (o hy, that the People of any Drgrc*,
in a Country that fubfiUi by Trade and induilry. dcltgbt in
War. is, I think, 3 very great Millake. If tvc examtbc
the Killories of our own Country, we (ball find ituii ibt
Nation has been led into unncccffiry and dcflruflive Win
by the Whimi of a Court, and that by the (4me fort of
Whims, we have fometimcs remstned at Pe.ice, when wfl
Gitght ro have declared War; but we ilull never find, that
the People in general were for entering inio an unncccflary
W.-ir, or for our coatiauiog in Pesce when it appeared nccrf*
Ciry to declare War. In King James IlPs Time, it was c«r-
tainly the InierrCiof this Nation, and would have rcdoondcd
very much to our Honour, to have (upponed the Proteftwc
Interett in Gemany. by cotcring hearltly into that Wut
but we bad ^t tbac Tine fuch a pacific Coort, that neither
the Honour nor Interclt of this Nation, nor the Safety of
the Protetiant Religion, could prevail with out Court to de-
clare War, or togiveihe PrMclUnu ;in>- etfeftuil AfitlUacr.
What dul the People do npon that CXcafton I Did eot tii€f
declare almofl nnanimouny f^r Wnr i Did not they exclaioi
agsinft the then Miniilen, for allowing clie Palatine I-antly
to be ruined, and the ProuHanc Religion cxtirptird both la
the Palatioaio and in Bohcmu. In King C:-ir](i lid's
Time, we were involved by our Court in two VVjrt agurtH
ibe Dutch: I believe, no Man tvill mm <ay, they v,xn
neccllary : I believe it wil! now be admitted, that Soth »rre
conirjiy to the true Intercll of tbia Nation, an " -rt
to til'" BaJacceof Ponerin Europe; Acconlin^ . .-«-
pled <U;cdagaiLab:>th. And lattly, ;^r. I bcii ^c. w-ca'l
rcmcoibcr, hM*i generally ihc People dctlarcd Kr a W»
with Spiift, long before our MiaiUcr could be prtvaitcd utu
ctUcr
Iflfultl of Spain, or the ComnlaiiitB of our Annoi4,G«o
»
I
OWT B_ _._ jp dttUre War ag«iiift tbit Kmidd. The
}Lf rwo, ihjt the Teuple wen id llic rig)<t. What
had ofcr. on?n foretold in ihu Hoafe, acUU appeared ro be
troK, tbti witbout a War >l would be impotTtble to obuiio
ckhcf iuuiiW^ian or SccMiic}' frum the Spani9iRls( and
fitttif ii mail now be allowed, thai if we bad began thii
War rijHl Yean ago. when the Emperor was attacked by
tiK Sptoiardi in luly, it would have been greatly to our
livaoar, ai well ai Advantage, and might have prevented
the prerrn! melaDcboly Pollute of A&iri io Europe.
ir, if we examine our own Hirtorics, we flj.ill
frs" 11 Times, when our Minillcr^aod People have
n with regard to War or Peace, the People
'-cn in the right ; and for :hi} it is eafy to
&«■« ■ kcatun. bccaiifc the People can be dirc£Lcd in their
JwdgmCAi by notbitig but the general lacerelt, whereat Mi-
DiA*(»arc too often dirrfled by particular Inieretl of their
own, or by the pArciculir Interett, perhaps the particuUr
Whia of their Sovereign, in complying with which, Mini-
ftui Arc apt to be cxttetncly complailant, for the fake of
co«in«ingtheinfel*ei in Power, efpecially when they think,
ifcry cu) by Corruption, or any other Method, prevent their
iKMig called to an Account in Pailtamcot.
♦ From hence, Sir, we may fee, thit the Unpopularity of
asr MiAiiler doe* net proceed from an unreafombie Fond-
Mil ia our fctipie fat War. or from any cbildtfit Dcfire of
being aOofltlhed with extraordinary Eventi, but from ihcir
kavMg judged bntrr. and more difir.tcreOedty, of the Cir<
cmiAancei of our foreign ASairs. and the true Intcref) of
liictr Couciry : and if ne hai incurred the Difplcafure of
all R<nki ot Penplf, upon this or any other Account, iiis
'ly branded: It cannot he Further branded
(hi* Houfe torcmo»e him; On the con-
it i&ay by lliat aieani be vinJiciIrdi beC'Uleartcr his
Rerrr:-rit, ird rrt rilj then, a linO and impartial KnquirjT
m". '■ .* Condtifl. and by that Kntjuiry bis
' >ird of thofc Sufpi\:i9ni that now lie fo
This, I fay, may be the Confcqueoce of
'.nttfed, and then he may agsin be employed
btii wbiin he labours under a general Suf-
....-u or Wiclccdneff, will any one fay, he ii
is tot bciegta hi^ MajeUy's Couscilt, and far lefs for being
h» Majdly'i foic Advifer I Let tbe People be never io
twd Jodgct of a M«n*s Virtue or Wildom : Let the Cli-
matin agiinJl tlia Miniller't Condud be never (o groundlefi,
hti .'I'jcdy »pcfl any Confidence Irom bis rarliainent.
II mo.
Cr
trarv,
opon n.
Addrcri
by bit
(90
/ nno r4,<j«o while bis <^anciTi ire i}ite£lctl hy a Miniller sgaiott wiwfB
11. 1740- thcic is a gcnenl Sulpjcion And CUmour.
^^yy^^ < Suieljff S'f. if ihcrc be toy Conncxioo bntvcen th«.
ScDiimecis of the Majority of thu AfGemhly, smI tl>c SeciU*
intcu of (he People : It weirc to jurfgc of ibr Scniiiacn
of the People, by what ippean to be tbo ^cmimeriti of
M»joT>ty ol ihts Afiembly. wc may, on the other hand, todga
of what will be the Scntimcnti of (he M'^)oriiy of orji
Parliuncot, frntn whii iie the prrfeni ScniimfRn of t
People i >«<) if the Majririty of luxc Parliament OioiiliJ coa-
Jilt of fuch aa have the bme Opioionol' thu Mimltct a» th«
People ^ncnlly have, can his MajcHy expcA any Confi-
dence from fuch J P.ulizment ? On it be cxpe^ed that thcj
will trull the Govrrtiaicni of their Countrv u a Man,
who, they think, will ruin it by his VVcalenc/ft or betray it
by his Wickednrlif SiTi the cbuOng of s new HBrIui«)«at,
whitft lucha Miniller is, or Jsfuppoled to be the fcU Dirtc
tor of our CiAiacilit inuil necefl^rily be of the mull dtftge-
TCUi Confcquence, cither 10 our happy Conliitution. or to
our |>rereni happy ElUbjilHmtrc. if the People arc 1«A to
their fiee Choice, la the prcfent Humour ihey are in, tbcy
will cetuinly chufc fuch for their Rcprcfi-.otativci at haw
been the moll profclTeii tad Hcai-'y Enemies to him t and
among th«m a Majority may get jd of fuch at ate fecictljr
difiilmled to the Illuilrioui Fimtly now upon oor Throne,
which would certainly be of the mofi dangeiotii Confc-
qoence to oor preient happy ERabl'Qicneot. On the o<hfff.
band, if the People Ihoultl not be kit to their free Choi
if (hey Ihould be diie^ej in their Choice b^ Cofruptlon. *
other illegal Praflicn. and thereby a Xfajoruy (faoold
chofea confining of fuch as act che Crcaturct and I'ooli
ihc MiniScr, what ir.ighi we 001 apprehend froro fuch
Majority tJuring the long Ccurfr of a Sfptnniai Parliitmcnt
Could we exped, ih'l fucli a Majority w-julil hive any Re.
gatd to the Libcftiei and Privileges of the People > M
we not cxpcft, that they would put an Fnd to our ba
Conrtifu'inn, when wc conf;Jer, that the foinfe Safety
of rheinrelvc5 and their Patron would depend uport tU
Oi-erthrow i
* It 11 fo apparent to niP, Str, thit one or other ef
Dsngeri rnult be the Coi^ffquence of having a new Pult
nent cho'cn. whilil foch an unfxiaDlar Mimiler i> ar I
l-Ielm of A&irt, that 1 ratinot believe any Man, who
fidcri cbc Qurliion irt thii Light. WiU beagainll it. vntcb
be ft fecrei Encny, uihrr 40 cur Confli:ut>oo, or 10 oiu
Srefenc ElUbliOiffleat. ii there be any ntnoogft ut, a« ]
ope the/e art no:, wiu> «js afraid of having ou Conftit*-
uatk
ifc-
i
) in priliM Vigour, hy At Choice of utn. Anno ■«, Geo
free pAfliamcni, tKejr liave Rto.oo ro be *^ '^-i^
oflon ( tad I »m I'nrc. if I wert n jauofaiw in V-/''V~S^
tf iis^- • nothing I Oiaulij w^h more eagerly lam
tCem»^ .- }>ut upOQ the QueAion, bcuDle I Qxtuli
tittux c^tpcci, thjt my Fiicnds would lUrd i fiiir
in evrr^f Part of the Kingi'om, of getting iheni'
tJroi ciwfeo Members of this Houfe at the oexc enfuing
• 1 hQ]>« I hire now fhewn, Sir, that the Miniilrr. pro^
fM b/ tbii Motion to be removed. aiuO be lUowed to b«
IfBf turpopohr Miotltcr ; that hii Chjrafter can b* no
Wf Uaciwntd by thii Addrefi &rther than it is altrad/,
ba, tm (he roairafy, may lie cicarrd oF the Cloud of StiA
}CKM wbich now hangn lownifig over itj aod that his
CnuMUAce io PoMct uttiU be of the moH dangerous Cgii>
i^waca, cillKr to our LuQllitulion, or to our prcfcat P.d»>
UAjaoB. I luve DO Occaiion to prove, amj, indeed, it is
myiSriU to prove, tkit be il the chief Adviser and toUt
DmOv af ali our \>jb\it Aff<ifs : Iti> ruficientfor my Ar>
Mwat. if be be grocra'Iy fu|^pDirU to be To : and that this
9hppaCiCiaa ngeoenlly withour Doot). is apparent JrOm tho
C^uwWi AmlKUtion made to him to all Branches of public
tifaat • No Mao, we lee. expefli to get any Bti&nt^ls lioae
vskfOrobesia any Fsrour from the Ciown, wiihouc nukiog
lam Son sf AcpKcutun to hisi ; for if he puti a Ncgaiive
^tto it, Uut S^-g^ilive has ofien been found to prevail
t|B«A the llroageJl Iniereft that could any other Way bo
»i! ' rafour. Thtsii the Cafr, ihts ha: long bcea
(k( - ::i regard to til AfTirs of a domefiit: Natote i
fi ftmk («sard to thofc that arc foreign, do not wc know,
fimiaam very near Friend of hii hat been employed in all
•v NcgBOktioni ihiit were of any great Impoitircc to the
N'mui? Our other Miniilcrt may, pctbapi, ba*c tud from
\m tW Ltberry mnoRiinacea Heiidcni, or an F.nvoy to
imt of t^ Northrrn Crown*, or to fome of the Iiiil«
fiiatt* of Germany or Italy : bat when any important
Mifdiiaaiuii wai let on Foot with Hnlland, France or Spain.
"ny one koowi who they are th.^i have been always cm-
|*9cd, aad by whofc [■'"""■"''■'^dBtioo ihey were appoint-
H. and oar many fr^i< 'ttatioas. and u fru<tle&
Tmtic*. tmrt fufficicno/ iciiiivnl their great Abilities.
* Tbcfe CirtuKaaoces, S<r, Kavc moll jultty created a<
JHmbI SoppofctioAa that this Miniller hat been for maaji
^^P, «ad is Ai]l, the Cole Ditc6ar af all our public Affairii
■MkiiSappofition itwtil be impoflible fur our other Miai-
klUOJViDore by fimDly aSening, that it ii not fo. I bsve»
Sir,
f 94 )
Anno 1 4, Geo. Sir, a very gwit Opinion of their Vertcity; bnt thii doei
II. 17 40. QQ( depend upon tbeir Veracity, but tbcir Judgment i becaofe
^'-^"^ "^^ an artfiil Minifler may make them believe, they aft freely
and without Dlreftioo, when all but themfelves (ee they can
do nothing without hii Confent or Connivance. However,
I muA tell them, that they have not io thii Cafe aneqoal
Title with other! to be believed, becaufe their own Honour
is very much concerned in the Queltion ; for as a Prime
Minillcr is inconliftent with our Conltitution, when any om
Minifier, by his Favour with the Prince upon the Throne,
ufurpi the fole Direftion of all our public Affiirs, no Maa
of Honour will then continue in the AdmiDillrition, becaafe
he does not then ferve his Prince, but hit Prince's Prime
Miniller. This is what no Man of any Prc'eoce to Hoooor
will confefs, and therefore, when he aflert^ the contrary, he
has not an equal Title to be believed with thofe, who are
neither in Honour norlntereA concerned in the Queltion. '
* I therefore wifli. Sir, that fonie Honourable Geotienua
would fave themfelves the Trouble of denying, that our
jmbli; AfEiirs are now under the fo)e Influence of Ulis Mini*
lt-:r, becaufe confidcring (ome laie Circum fiances, and their
known [nurell in the C^eftion, they cannot expcft to be
bslieved. and becaufs the very Suppofiiiott of its being (b* 11
fufficicnt for the Argumsnt 1 have advanced. The trj
Suppofition that this Miniller is a fole and Prime Mioifler,
mutt expofe our prefent Ell<ib!i(hnient to Danger at the oeit
general Eleftions; but this is far from being the only Oaa-
ger we are expofed to by this Minitler*s Continuance ta
Power. We know the prefent ticklifli State of the A&vi
of Europe : We know what a Danger the Balance of PoiMr
ii now }a ; and we know what a Difcredit hit paft Owdoft
has brought upon our Councils at every Court ta Eun^.
If he if I'uppoed to continue in the chief DiredioDor ov
public Affairs, can we expcft a Confidence from any oftliofe
Courts i Can wc expcft, tliat nny of the Potentates of Eoiope
will en:er into an Alliance with us, for reiloring or prefciT-
ing the Balance of Power ? p'rom Experience we kiov
h«w little capable he is of condufting any NegocJanaai
tiiercfore, il he continues but one Year longer at the Htti
cf our Councils, we have Realcn to apprehend fope Uft
Sup oi B unJer, which may put it out of the Power flf
any lutj.t; Adm D.llr»tion to recover our A£tirs, or w fim
cry Scheme for fccuring the Liticrties of Europe ; aitd ifaO
ihc Powers thereof (hould t>e obliged to fubinit to the Di-
reftion cf our moll d.ingerous Rival, what can this NuitB
»i lalt expcft i
Thk
( 95 )
This Danger, Sir, u (a appircot,aiii3 U row become fo AnnoiA,C^.
linear, that our complying wjtb this Macon J!, to my JI 1740
inion. 1 Doty we owe both 10 our King and Counrry. i^'^\/'^\J
pyoie I thought this Minillcr gatlty of no (.rime; Tup-
^ olc I had approTcd of every Step of bis paA Cotidufi. yet
LMlie Wnknels of his Mcafurcs appears now fo plain from
^hcir EfTecls, both abroad and at home, that 1 fltotild be
f9br addrrlQngco reoiove a Miniikr, who had led me, ai well
■ ma his Couniry, into foch fiia) Errors. Political Mcafarea,
I^Srr, ire of luch an abntole Nature, and fo often a^ mil of a
^ falle Gtofs. that a MiHatce can no Way derogate from the
'JoderdaivliRg of thok who are obliged co judge of them, *
Kthoat having all the Lights neceJTaty for forming a righe
idgment. 1 know there are many Gentlemen In this
lourc, whoiiave approved of mott of this Miniller'i Mea-
ei : According (o the Lights (bey viewed ihem in at the
fime, they appeal 'd wife aed right; but will any Gentle-
|an now fay, they were fo} Will any Genileman now (ay,
!ic Treaty of Hinover was a right Mcifure ? Will my one
>w approve of (he Meafures taken, anil the Expcnce tve
jt otirfelvrs to, in Purfumce of that Treaty ? V\ til anyone
fay, we oaghtto have gone precipitately inio a general
fOinnif of the Piagmitic S:inAian. without ILiputjt'tig tl-.c
lO Sitiififtjon for any Prince in Germany, with regard
I the Claims kc had upon the Hoafc ol Auilria.
Surely. Sir. before we entered into that Guaranty, we
3uld Itave taken care, that more iluin one Haif cf Ger-
iny fbould not be engaged in Inierckt tn oppose that which
re had guamntf'd. The Claioimow fet ap by Pruffii were
certainly known to our Mtnitlcri. beiore we giuraaty'd the
Pragmatic SaoAion : For him at jeall we ought to have fti-
piilattd fuch aSathftfiion, ai would in Intcn-ll.aswcll ai by
Treaty, hare cng.igvd him in the fame IntereA with ui. Jf
we had done [hit, rcKlier tl.e Pragmatic SmAiOn, nor (he
Libertici ot Europe wou d now have been in any Danger;
ffnd ilierefi)rr, I cannot (hint:, any Man will now pretend •
L^^ jiiUIfy our bavmg fo precipitately cnrcred in;o a general
^^^uaranty t,t (^e Pngmaiic S^nftion: Nay. X believe, evert
^Tbr Minifler himfell wtuld not l-ave done (o. if he had not
been forced toil in orJcr 10 extricate himfclf out of the Di-
lemma lie had brought brmfeif into by the Treaty of 5e>
ville; for however jfalou* iomeof the nc;ghbt-unn};i'rtncea
of (iennany ffl.-iy be. ofno Increai« of l*u<,ver Jn tlie Houfe
ofBrarKicnburg, furtly no Kngiilli Mini.lercuuM be atlnarrd
by 9Dy fuch Jealou'y : ar>d inc'cfire, I bclkre. enn osr
MimCer bimfrlf wvuKl have Jlipulited ^litfjQii n fur the
King of r.'uSu. With legird (o bii Clairat in Sitcfn, bct^e
crteritig
11 1-43
( 96 )
Am>oi«, Geo mcertng mta thai <iiannit)r, if be had ootbctfl fbrcoStO
by (b« Dilrmnu I h»vc racmioncd.
• By ihcfc Mcafur*", Sir. and by our rcglrfling 10 piifbni
our Guaranry ifl iljcEtnpcror in ihe Year 173;. the
ef Fuwtr, and tbc Ltbeniei oC Europe bare bcea
into ibeir prc'cnt Danger. I'bis Danger is not
Ihe EmpcroT'i Death, at the Friend* of our Miniflrr ctdo-
rtmr to infinute; fot it ve bad taken right M<i(um, if
we bad not tzkro wioog Mcafurer, oay, if we bid not piK-
fued a long Scries ot wrong McaTurcs, ibc Einpeior'& Death
could have made lutk or no Alteration in iIk AftAin of
Europe i fo that the Empcror'a Death had Dotbing in it baJ
to the Libcriiei of Europe, but iu hap[>f ning bclore tba
Nation had an Opportunity to get rid oi thit MlniAcr, tnd
10 TcAify the Erruri it had been led into by bttn. Thii. in-
deed, Mjs very unfortunate, and if be continuM but ibr
one Year longer to have the lame Influence opon our
Coancilt, 1 may prDphefy, that wiihtwt lomc very figml
Inccfvcntionof Providence, it will l>c falkl to the Liberuei
of Europe in gencrai, and confequenily to the Libcniet of
this Naiion in particular. At the refpc^ltve Timrt iktU
Mcalurei were taken, ibcy were (ct in fueh a Light hy our
htinilict and his 'Advocates, that I 60 not wcadcr at their
baving been approved ol hy everyone, who bad any Coei-
dcncc etcher m hit Wtfdom or Inirgriiy ; bot their We*k>
Bcfi, I Qisll not Ciy Wickednert, spfcan ticwfo pbin. troa
the Kffe&i they have produced, timt no M.an, not even the
Vlitilller himfelf. cnn approve of them i and tbador*
tvery Man mutt think. tTc ought at Icail to be mnoveil hr
hit Weaknert. Hii pursuing futh Meorutet. hit ondenak*
ifig, >■ be did by the 'IVeaiy cf Hanover, to pull dowaths
overgrown Power of the Houle of Auilria, vay peHafa
have proceeded from Wickednefi. It may hire procaednJ
from hii having a greater Regard for a fomgo JntcTtt,
beaiti(c it coincided wtih hii own. than he bid tor the ffi-
teiclt of bi« Dative Country ; bur ibit C4nnoc be matif If-
pear. «■ long si he It Madcr of all the Frooft, aad baa tU
(he Fxvourt of ibc Crown at hit DifpoTal ; aod thcrrfgft.
the tiA Step we tDud taketowjirdi dikorcring bii Wkhti*
octs, mullbe to remove him for hii Weakndi. which. «tt
regard to the gcnenU IniertHI of Europe, moft now, aa I
have fiid, plainly appear, even to thofe who b««« hitfcCRO
had the hcU Opinion of hit Conduct,
' And now. Sir, with regartl to the particular Itrterf4 ti
tbli Nation, will any one now (ay. that it wai wile or eighl
10 allow Spain toamuJcut, for (o many Yean together, wtlh.
uifling NrgotkiioBif efpecially u they vitn, dunag
wlnfa
(97) ,
fi iat^rrnptiaf; oar Tnde ami Nivjgnrion, anj Anno.u-Cto."
mnj^ OIK Mrrcti&ntif Will any one no* fay, it iijlj^-
or tight to conclodr wi(h Spain a ftiim Treacy, '
s L'onvcrtion, Without c4>rAinJn2 ar.f Sstis^dlOO tor
[l^f »«s. or Any rrf>mil'e of Srcuiiiy againll faiart, my*
ubmiiipg (^ much «^ a Piomilc form IntennilliOii
if lafBitt f V^hrnan)' I'oint h^ppmi to be in Dirpuie, by
^^\ the Nauor. ii not rxpofed lo any immedute Lofi cr
ft»Mir Mnnllrn m^v nc^otiit^ about itand about it :
y r-r*- f nclude tnftf nifiaint Trcitiei rtUiing to it,
t' rci immniiaEe Rupture, E;^ inciting upon
i^i'tuffioni but w)irn we [ufier daily and
^7 tl»e Point in Dnpotf . nnd hiiTB it in our Power
nund an imrrcdixc Dikyi&on, (urely our Minillcrtl
tMX then lo nlk'w (lll^mlrlvcll to be xmuted with tfdi-
NV£(n| .iinn» (ir urntr^ning Ttralies ; and isucb left
alirt lUcy hive jmie iticir C^ountry tm great F.ir^ience in pre-
pij'tii fu7 d i'.ui'Uft, u-hich was our Cife at tb« Time wfl
Coa=liKJcd i>-ic n.ligc.ricant Treaty, al'itd the Conrrntion,
• I »fr. ■'■pfiffd, Str. ro 1 rir an Attempt tww
t"! ! rif" toJcus Tfcacy. orio liear sny one
T :i had an Inclination to gnnt ut tny
Suppofc ftiey bud by ilic Ttexiy
livuiea. »' ibty did not, (Imi lOO.ooo). wsi due
iftAw ui D-imagci far the Injurtn wc had fulTrmJ,
ttwaM. out of tliia joo.oool. drduft, open
:ci. no icri tban 173.000I fo »i 10 l»vc no
Z7,oool to be K^tuiUy p«id to ui i muft rot
ire iriit fhi* woold havc becn no more than a
'rOn, m«(!c b^ the Minitlrrs ttf Spain to
,. ^.i .itrai K'lUin, in otder to Airnifh the lattrr
hiog vilicrcuiib to amtile iheir own Peopled
"—-■•■ appear* from the Taprn open our 'I rble, that
iDblled upon lier Aighc 10 fr^rch our Ships m
%un: .^_j i-ir, bai that wc had no R'ght IdIiJI in thofc
it»i gulf v-r • 1 :i-rred whst tbry might be plrWed 10 caU a
*■ '■ , n IB '.ery furptifirtg 10 he^f i; Aill afferied, thir
i ever the Icall Thought of gianting to I'l t frre
,jji-]B, or the Irall Inclie^iion la live in Peace with
tt» uw continued to a)to«v their Guar<1a Cofta's to
"1, and to plunder nr feiie our hieu
. -rwncTi were nci k( up bf verbal
Ut wwr MioiBsr nr Negotiator in Spain,
inotfi): 'fciiiTrf'i or tranfmiiied id our
' 'rmoriali nufi ^Ave been
-Jikgs :A»KAf't Cabinet Courri',
V«L. vu. o it
C 98 )
Annoi4iGeo tt iieqoaily rurpriuag to hear it pretended, that our c&ief
II 'Tio. Mjniller wkt. or could pollibly be, ignorant vf ihcm,
• I Ihall conclude, &i,r. with a fhort Reply to what hil
been laid in Anfwcr to the Charge againA this Mmtfler, cf
ills having cndcavontcd to obuin m cormpc loflucr.ce over
both Houtei of Parliament. This the Honourable GenttC'
nan admits to be a heavy Charge i but, fayi be. it ii a Kad
tvhich. if true, may ccnainly be proved » and (or thii Ptir<
pofc he provokes any Member tn rife tip, and iaf, that the
Minillcr cvcrdefired him. or tetnpted hinit either by I'hma
or Piomifeit to vote igainll his Confcience in Parliarntct
Can It Itc (uppt^eO, Sir, that any Mitiiller would be i>i;m i
fool as to calk (o to a Member of this Houlc t Is ihete ibe
lead Occafion Tor him to cjtpofe bimfctf En this ounnerr
Two or three Kxampiei : TviO or three Gentlemen beirg
turiKd oat of ibcir Perils, afier having oppofed the Mini-
Her'i Meafure* in Parliament, will be m luffieient Warning
oc Threatning to all the lell of the Memberj of either
Hoofe of Parliament, that hold any Office ur brnpluymcst
at tbc Pleafure nf the Crown, and alfo to all (hole that bgpe
for. cr expeft any Farour from the Crown. By the* P.xam*
pies every one will fee, that none ol the Kavourt nf tit
Crown are to be held or expelled, but by refigning thr:r
Contcicncei in Parliament to the Dilates of the i'rtoie
Miiiiltcr i and thii will beni efledual upon all thofe of rt>
nal M*i>dt or nrcefiiious CircomltaDCes, ai if ihe Klialflcf
hid okett ihcm one by oneafide, and threatened ihem ft'
prefily with the Lofi of their Employment*, or with a Dif-
appointment to their Hopes, b cafe they fhould ojipoieaBjr
ol bn Meatures in Parliament.
• Thii i» tbeicfwe the only Pioof we<an have of a Mi-
niUer's endeavouring to gain a cortupt InAueacfl over bodi
Houfetof Parliament ) andean it be faid. Sir, that wc bate
ao proof of this kind againil the Miniitcr now ptopr'- '.
be removed P Do not we all know, that many tn
Members of both Hon(e* of Parlmmenr hare been
removed from every Ofice they bttd at thePieuurc . , ,
Crown, loon after their having oppofed fomeof thll.
iler'i Pfojeitj in Parliament, and (hat no Cinfr
RerooMl ever wai. or coold be affigned, ' ■
TOitd jcc jrding to the DiAaies of their Ct^:
pofition lo the DitUtcs of thr Minitler* iJi> r
Know, tbat it hi» been tberonllant Maxim of 1
llrAtiun. to confer actie of fbe Favouncf the Crown, bof
ufcn lull 31 vjtcd iicR>n!m« to hit DircAiom at Et<£U<
' It' Niy. 4iir, he has gone ftfther thaa
; biitt cvct tiki . lie hat declared ihit
hu
( 9'9 )
NbxImop»)y; He hii ivowetl it I'fl tha F«ce of thit Annol4,Cco•
" ■"■ -nb y i and (hill *e rfrfire or fceic for a Proof of H- 174*
1 i'lci, whtcl) the Criniinil himfelf luu kvowcd
bouicd of in chii vrry Affcmb'yf
• T(w Kjicufe insrie fr*r iht» open Attack upon oar Cou-
. a Brw ' Mi rS the Mjnilltt'j Goilt. It
cf, u tfii- i.telf, to take rou'ccof ilicOp-
•■-■■-■■>_ > . cniin in Pariiimenl ? H*i the
lie- , i -.;,<; ;,ir^ r,i,,irU', a Right (o juJge or dtter-
wbetbrr or no iurh iin Oppolinon be imhiCKctly and
tally carried 00, or whr.hcr it proccedj (/otn Refent-
rsi or l.o.-D ConrcieiKCf Sir* thcrt would be an End of
ie prec<dcKn ol bpeech in Parlitment, at lealt with regard to
\l (icBilcmrn. who held or exprfled any Office or Place
jri-c .,.,.« fhe riafure of the Crown, if the Kicg
lou fucb a Ki£bl; and cbcrcfi>rc, an/
'i him TO do <o, mutt be guihy oF a very
If any Gentleioan OiouM fpeak, or
. indecently or lodifcrcetty here, the Houfe
- take notice of it; and whilU a Grnilcman
\*t^ fijncii' decrntly and difcreetly, wharercr Oppoft-
»ft tie ntkct lu l&y QueJlion in this Adcmbly, inufl, and
to be fuppofcd to proceed ftum Mutivci of Honaur
ifdcnee. and not from Muiivei of M)itice or Re-
If the Crown, ot ratbct the MituHeri of the
•tre iliowed a Riglii to judge in fuch Cafes, every
[fpoke Bgilnlt them would be deeme-d to be indecent.
Oppofitioo to their Mcafurei would be (oppored
from their Malice or Hetcnintcnt ; iod thus cliey
^aic, they had a juI) and legal Reafon for turning
' Man oai nf che Service of the Crown, that (hould
ir.y [f their Mealures Jo Parliament.
-ng may, it is true, cxercilc fonicof the Prc-
r.c Crown Without aflting the Advice of any
Emu if he doet uiake a wrong L'I'e of any cf bts
.J...,.-- *■■•■ ^tiriileri mufl anfwer for it, if incy cotu
i« to * - ■■lerj. This, Sir, ii one of the Advan-
k«ri oui <~^i.«Mi;iion, and it iia very high Advxotage:
(t raakr* it dsngeroui for Mioifleri to endeavour to
fuprrior Degree of Favour with the King, by bu-
ine the Pal&ont and Fradiiei of huiDan Nature, by
iiieh Kiagt, ai well at other Men, are too apt to be go-
£lt ttata Advintagc wr lofe, Sir. when we happen
bavc ao unpopular Minilfer, or 00c who fears the Re-
itmatti of the People, aa4 bit no way to goard ag^iinlf it,
. by gaioioj a coirapc Majgriiy in Farliament i for iiich
Ox 0
( TOO)
Annot^.Geoi Mm moD for hi* own Rjfttji en<JMroQr to Bumiior faU
v-ti-^ S?veicigfi in «11 hii Paflions and Fr«il:iei. for ibc fike of
*-^^r^S^ prcfcrving hi} Favour, upon which alone bit ptilanal S»fc.
()r, li well a> hit Power, itfcadu sd(1 if Tucb a Ml
ibo'jid, bf fuch Muot, ro!el)r cngrufs ihc Favour of
Martrr, and thereby gain a corruyit M'jotity io
Houfn of Parliament, I ihuuld he glml lu know what C
tro.ll h« ii under, or liv wlmt legal Mont our Contlitutli
could be jclfored. This unlucky Situation we taty ftll into
by having the fiipe Minifler too long contini:ed m Power.
This Danger wc h»vc. I ihiok. fomc Reafon loapprebesd
from our Vlini/lrr's being tongtr coDtintKd in Pouci; mi
therefore I Oia>t be for agreeing to ibc Mouoa new -atuiu
mrCotfideration.
Mr. Harley.
Sir,
t. Hiriei. * I do Dot fl.nd up at thi» Time of Night, eiilirr ro ttr
fufeoTto 6-itui aijy Min. Since I have tud the Honour !a
lit in Piriiameot, I have oppofe 1 the Mrafutn oT the Adni-
mention. b<raafe 1 thought them wronj> ; aiu) ai long n
they sie, I Ihsll continue to ^ive *% (oiilbnt an OpfiofiuM
to them. The Stiw of the Nation, by the Coodua of our
Mmiilcii, is deplorable: A ''Var it drUrcying tu Abroad,
Mid Poverty atvd Corruf lion are devnurirg oi w Home.
iwbaccvir r may think of Men, God fjtbid, ihst ay fnr,
OpIoioD (hcutd be ibe ooly Uu'c cf my judgment ! I &
dciirc to have aa exterior CoDTiflion fioin FaAi and
deocc; and nlihout thii I am fofar fiom condennirg, t
I nou'd not cenfure any Man. I am fu!ly ftntJini m a,
own Mind, that there are itiofe whn give pirriicioui and
Urudivc Counfeli ; ard, I hope, a Time wiU corar, wbn,
propcri legal, p;;rlamcnL:ty lu><]uiry may be
when clear fadt an^E fu'.l hvde.ice wi|) plttnly dUcc
^rc ibe Enemies of tbcii CuuuLry.
• A nob^e Lord, to whcin 1 bad the Honour to b«
litrd, hiS been vfien memioned in this Drk'ie : He
impeached and iaipriroued i by that Impritbnment bii Yi
wctc Ihorurrd; and ttic Prolccution wa» cariied ott by
Hon* urabic Petfon, wtiQ 1* now the Siibjcft tif your
tiORtlho' he kncwat uat eery Time, thai there vm aa £
^coce to fspport it. I api now, Sj. gUd cf tbtL
tonity to return Good for Fril, And to do that Hon.
Centlctrao and hit Fiftiily ihai luQicr, wbicb be di
!Hitv» .
( loi }
^eiY Uie, yet I did not, it firft, think of Mr, fultmcy.
I inc Debftic, brcinfe I had a Mind to
Mr. Pa!tettry.
• TW it I' ^-^^ ^
;(o eaHv in
bard f-- ' i^c Honoimb'c Gcnctcntan bad co dy
own '• i Utt finctf (he Ifoiifc lecini lobe of
tliat i:e ukij^ht lu be ihc lall Speaker in ibis De.
my fcif cbl:ged roslccrmy Intcntion,UKlio Kt%'e
Senuin«eti upon the QucUion, tKfoie I tieir what
t-iiu t.i ''-<* Aithit, I ixy, Iccmi to be the Opinion of
iH' '1 "01 prtlntne » fiiy U is pinia] ; but {
ot< c it is coniriry to the cfUblilhtd P»ftice
Itl other Oki in this UoJt, find in all other Courts of
)i,>T« evei heird of; for both in thi> HouTe, upon
Occ:lont,And in all other Courts, the Petidoaer
atux- >i :ilM'aysal1owM to reply i and if this Method
obicrved upon ihii Occafioni I Ibould buTC re-
lyklt'fur the Reply, in which Cafe I fhoold hive
okcn pcitnulu Circ not to htve ti>enttoi>cd any sew
je. hot wcwld hive C0D6npd tnyfr'f cnrire)y to thole
dot hid been before menitonrd in the Octuie. This
ire been my Method, hni I been ilFowcd to fpeik
~ Reply ; but now, I think, I may ake the Liber-
f\t, to uke Notice ot lome Faflg that have not
I'MMuioaid in the Debate t and I hope the Floufe
re me '>nv9 to cipUin a tittle farther Tome of ihofe
(•salTcir Wkked Mealurei thic have been already mco-
Ti> beji". Sir. wHh our fotcfgn Affiirs : I muft go ■
fe finbcr b*ck (hin the Treaty of Hanover, in order to
the We»kmrfi ot that Treaty i and tf I can fhcw, that
finiJler. wbotc ConduA i> now ibc Sobjcd of Debate.
bimfrlf h^ve been conlcioui of the Wrakneh of tbsi
d wai then wi^ikcd m him to approre cf it, or
tlut pcniiaaiis Plan of Politics, upon which it
. Sir. the Plin. and the right Plan of Pol!.
bad been porfu'd during ibe whole Reign of
riilissi. and the whole Rn'gn of QuKn Anne, till
the latter End cf it, when « new Mmifiry began to
'Ucaiurct.wa.' toditniRilhihc Power of the Houfe of
and add to the Power of the Houfe of Aullria, in
ffteto prcTcrrt a Balance c-f Power in Europe. In ex ecu-
DM af cnia PUa we Joined, not ai Auxiliariei, but ai Pria-
itttwo dtagcroGi Wars againd France- Wcexprnd-
[aaaf MilUoM ; we lun outfelvcs many Millions in Debtt
: fvx of which icraaiiu ii yet « L«ad upon ihu Nuioo t
•ai
AnP0t4,Gfca.
U.1740.
( I02 )
^jufto I4, Geo and the Earl of Oxford, our Minifter at the End of liie
II 1740- Qucen'i Reign, was impcsch'd (he Beginning of Ull Reign,
^^'V'^J for not purfmng this Plan. T|ie chief Article againll that
Minillerwas, his having, by the Peace of Utrecht, left the
Power of the Houfc of AuHria too fmall in Italy and Flaa<
ders, and the Kingdom of Spain un^icr a Sort of Dependance
upon the Court of France. This I fay, was the chief Arti>
cle of Impeachment againll that noble £arl, and this our
prefent MtBifler cojld not b« ignorant of, becaufe hewai
Chairman of that very Committee, which drew up thoft
Articles of Impeachment, and waj then one of the warmei
Frofecutors of that noble Earl.
■ To remedy one of the Faults found with the Treaty of
Utrecht, we entered into a Negotiation, foon after the Ac-
ceflion of his Ir^tc M::jetly, fur giving Sicily to the Emperor,
in Exchange for S-'iiciinia, uhich Exchange was cllabliQwl
by the Treaty of London in the Y'.ar 1716, and u tbtt
Treaty wasfigned by this vcty Gentleman, he could not be
ignorant of the Phn of Politics ufon which it was founded.
In fupport of this Plan, ive arc obliged to engage in a War
againlt Spain, which occafioncd cur dellrpying their Fleet
in the Mediterranean in the Year 1718: and this very Flu
was the chief Faundation of the Quadruple Allianre. which
t^piin afterwardii acceded to, tho* the Conditions of thai Ac-
celTion are not, as yet, 1 believe, fully Icncv-n. Thus we got
one of the Faulti> Icjcd with theTreuiy of Utrecht ameodedf
and as to the other, it w:.s by the Hind of Cod \try [dob
removed; lor by the Death of the late King of France.aod
the Regent's fetting afide his Will, which, luckily for thii
Nation, happened (uon ?fter his lace M jelly's AcceSion, tiiC
Depi-ndencc of the Court uf Spuin upon that of France WM
remov'd, and an Enmity cil.ib'iihed bctwceo the two Courli,
which foon af er broke out in sn open War.
• By thefe Mrtn." t!:e two chief Paul's that had beta
found with the Trc.ty of l.'trccht, wrre both reAifled ; and
rhus the AfTiirsof Europe Unod, when this Minilter hrgu
r.rlt to have an Influence over cur Councils. Whilll a Jea-
ioufy, or rather Enmity, fubfined between the Courts of
France and Spain, it wa; reifonablc enough for us to keep I
Correfpondcnce with the Court cf Fnnce, efpccially ajal
;hjt Time we had a Difpute with the Court of Spain ; bum
that Enmity ccafcd by the Regent's Dedth, and as a good
Corrcfpondence v.ts reilorcd between thcfc two Court), by
the young King 'jt France's being married to the Infanta oi
J'ja<n, we o'jgiit then again to have begun to be upon our
^t'^ird againlt the Ambition of the Houfc of Bourbon, and
•or tht? Piirrcfe wc ought to have contioiKd lo cdltivaic a
good
( 103 )
snefpondrnce with the Houfc of Auflria, and we ought Anno t4, GcA,
cndnTOured, by all the artful Means we could think ''■ '740'
bterrupt that Correfpondence, which had been re- ^-^"V%^
ied between the Courts of France and Spain, and to
Bodaie all the Differences fnbftlling between the
of Spain and Vienna. According to the Plan of Po-
lAriiiet] ever fince the Revolution, thefe fhould hive
le Ends propoted in all our Negotiations; and for
iliihing thefc Ends, a moft happy and unlook'd-for
nt occurred by the Court of Francc^s fending back
inta of Spain, and getting their King married to his
Qiieen.
lii. Sir, was one of the moft lucky Accidents that
Avc happened for this Nation, and for Europe, if we
nown how to have made the right Ufe of it. The
>f Spain immediately broke olT all Correfpondence
uu of France, and offiircd to reier all their DifEitrences
^ Court of \'ienna to our fole Meditation : but our
[ Miniflcr had then got almoll the fole Direflion cf
iblic Councils, and upon this Occafion the Plan of Po-
c t.ld laid down to himfelf, tirlt began to appear: This
ftif'lsw, ri lorg as the Court cf France did nothing to
lOr interrupt his I'cueiliun of Power in this Kingdom^
i!d do no:i.ing that might diiplcafe them ; but, on the
ry, wculd dii . il they delired, and connive at wJiac they
Mind to do, m far as was confiitent wi:h hi: Safety
c bonie. This, I f.y, was his Plan ; That it is the Plan
rrer lirce purlunl, I fmll make appear from the
Tenor c! hii Cor.tluA : And, when we coniidtT the
sof it. w^ Cinnrr wonlcr at Kis h.nving emplov'd fuch
Relation, in ccnccr:ing and e;i:>bl'(hiiig tuch a Plan.
a Purfuance tf this Phn. .ind dirtdiy contrary to :hiE
of Politics we (huuld 1 ave purlued, aiid ft,>r which we
tpcnded fu much BIooJ and '''rcul..r(:, he reluled toac-
il this fole Mediition oflerVl us by Sp.in, or to make
iWvantige of ihis Diffcrercc thjt had h.ippencd bc-
the Courts of France -.•.nil Spn;n. I'tom o-.ir refufing
ept of this Mediation, the Court (.1 rr.tnce had fonif:
n to hope, thftt the DiHerence o^'tween the Couits of
a and Madrid might remain unaccommodated, nil Hie
I find an Opportunity for niakini;; up the Bnach occa-
by (ending back the Inf^nti of Sprim ; but the Court
lio were fo irritated at the AFro .t put upon thetr.
hey resolved at any Rate to accommodate their D\f-
zs with the Court of \'irnna. and for this Piirp^fe the/
Minifier privately to Vienna, by whofe Means T;c.i-
'Peace, Guaranty and Comm;'''ci;, were cunt.'!'jdr-i L-c- .
tvvf-r.
( 104 )
AMintA,Oeo(weeii tbetwoCourci in ihe Beginning nf ibe Yar lyjj.
II 1740. ( The conclnding tf thcfc IrtJiies. Sir, aoti ihc good
K^'Y"^'^ CofreJpondtnct ihercbjf eUablifliRl between the Coum »f
VieniiA »d Mft^jrid, gave s mofl juft and rfafonabic A'lim
to France. At tbc Court uf Spain wn highly and molt juftly
initAtH Hgninll her, and as the HouTe of Aufl'ia w-ai hff
molt dangn'ooi nnd invetrrate Eflcin)', the had grut Rcaloa
ro b« 3fr4iJ of a ctofe Union bctuwn thtfe iwo Povm:
She Itsd even iome R»ron to feai an immrdiaie Attach
But ail the other Poweriof Europe, andthi* Nition in par-
ticular, according to our aottent and right Plan of roititi,
lud Rcafon to rrjoice at this Union : T.vcn itippofe thr Fc*
pe/oT and Spam had jointly attacked France, we might havf
looked on wiili Indrtfciencr, till one of the Parlici h*d be-
gun to pu(h her Cofitjudl too ftr. Till this had hapjifncd,
even ibe Durch might have looked on with Jedrffetence
for tbo' there was ;^t that Time a Oirpute fubfifling bct<
them «nd the Etnperor, in relation to the Oltend com
that Difpuic wat not of Tuch Consequence at 10 occj
Breach ; aod if the Etnperor had, in C'onjunftioo with Spgil,
reTolved to attack France, be nould cctcaitily have factiSccd
thai Oitnpany, for the lake of gaining a Neunalti/ btm
tlir Dutch.
■ Accordingljr, SiT-. wc faw, that the Dutch teltifieJ u
Apprehcrfioni Irotn iliofe I'mlici, or fiom tbc cItTie Uniot
thereby ellablilbed beiit'een the Etnpernr and Spain Bat
upon fhii Occasion our Miniller'K PUn of Politict produced
anrwF^efi, which hat been attended wi:h many oataUe
Mtfchirfi tn thii Nition, and has now at lali overturned th*
Otiancc of Power in Europe. Ai France hid mod j\iKf
taken the Alarm, arid found Am cou'd not inl\il any Fun
into the Dutch, fhe had Recour(c to cur Mituller herr, m
oidti to fill our Court with Apprchenftoni from ifaofe Trca-
iie«, that had bceii concluded between the Emperor aad
Spain at Vienna For tt>it Putpore, (be invented a Story
cf I'Cr having had certain Information frum \'icnr.a, itul
iMre were fome feciei ArticJcj, by which the Emperor aid
Spain had agreed to take Gibraltar and Poitmahon from a,
10 defeat the Protedant Socceffion by refloring the PreteBda,
And to rain our Trade with Spain, by gr*n:>ag laany cuttfi-
derable Advantaget rathe Emperor's Sub^efls; .-icd that tU
onlj way we hid to g<iard againQ thefe terrible DcDjas
W£i by entering into a dcferfive AUtance with her.
* llio' thii Story was in itfelf ridkulou», bectuJe of in
being imptnAicable for the Emperor and Spain to rStH^Mt
any o( thol^e Deftgni iigainft us r Tho' both the EtapecM
and Ikiog of Spain rxprefily deaied iberc bclrg uy fac^
fetm
( J05 )
Articin t Tho' they invjccd us to accede to the Trea- Anno u, Geo
Bcluded between tliem; and tbo' ic nasver)' iiiucli die ^'- ■740>
rt Intcrell to do fo; >et lucii was our Mini/lcr's In- ^./'V"^
I over our C'ounciis. fucli his Attachment to the Pian
laics he tiad iaid down for his own Cc ^:i'*, that he
Jpi on his late Majelly :o give Creili' u. ■.: i& impro-
Fxcncb-Scory, and toconcJude with France the I'lracy
•over in September 172;. which 'J'rcLty the King of
. was drawn into, by making him believe, that one of
cfignj of it was, to retlore tiic Protclt,.nts of 7'horn,
cuie the Oblemince of the Treaty of U:iva ; but he
tw the other contr^ding Parties had no i'uch Deiign,
crcfore be foon left thcin.
'hu:i. Sir, we were drawn in to fccure France againft
aiaclied by the Emperor and Spain, when, according
anticnt Plan of Politics, we fliould rather have pro-
thit Attack ; becaufe we might eitlily have ufccn care
eiliier Side (hould have pufhed the War too far, and^
■Dcaa time our Trade would have greatly tncrcifed by
(cajr of the Trade of France. 1 know. Sir, it will
I, chat the Minifler, wliofe Conduit is now the Quef-
sfbre uff had no hand in that Treaty, becaulie he was
Hanover when it was concluded ; bu:as he had then
icf Oire£tion of our AfFiirs, and as it is very impro-
■ny EngliOi Miniller at Hanover Ihuuld conclude a
'.erf* fuch Importance, without the Advice of theCoun-
r» therefore the Treaty's being figned at Hanover, is
«f of his having had no hand in it. But, i hope, it
X be pretended, that he had no hand in advifing the
•a taken in Purfuance of this 1'rezty ; and 1 lliall
ew, that ihoie Meafurcs were more pernicious, and
plainly demonftrsted his Dependance upon the Coun-
Fraace, than the Trtnly itielf. 'i he Treaty w»s r.o
biD a defenfive Treaty • and if France hnd been at-
, we were tiiereby obliged to tataidi her with no
kan 8000 Foot and 4000 Horic, and ihat not till two
p After Application Oiouid be m^de for :heni ; !o chat
l«»r, from this Tre^iv, the leali Occ:;/:on fur pii::ing
M to the Expencc cf augmenting our Army, or cf
- r ; f Ti-.. . '1 i-_-i. 1 .. .
AnnetitCee. *« IhoulJ (hen haw had Time enough to (mA oat»!
II. i?40. dronfufficient foi difappoiniing ihctr Dfltgii!.
^/^y""^^ » It is ihertfore imfoflihlc, Sir, to find out a Rnfon fer
ihc Mcafuiejwc look in Pufluanceof thii Tr«ty, »By otkff
wny than by confidcriDg what wai tht Intrttl). and ^i-hiit iC
ihat Time Blight be the Views of the Court of Franer.
from tbciKC. indeed, we may iim) a Rcnfon. ard h wai, [
■m fully convinced, the only true Rnion. FniKC hid i
Mmd not only to gtuid againft her tieing attacked, b'.;- it
was her Intcrell, and (he cenatnly intended to bre.-.i
Correl'pondcnce which had b<en eibbrifhrd berwrrn th<
pcict and Spain, and to chaAife (lie Court of Spain a littJe
for (iariog lu lake any Mcarure< contrary to hrr loirrclt i at^
both ihefe r.nds ihey intendcil to occomplifh by Mt^nt of
her Influence upon our Miriner, without puitirg heifrlf to
any giCrit F.xpcnce. nr coming lo any open Rtach
with the Emperor or Spain, Wag this pofTible? Vr., . .,
by making the Oit't Paw of (his Nation, Die accompiilbed
■il (he intended, md in the manner (he JotetHled. The
NtceSity of pulling down the overgrown Power of die
Houlc of AuUrp. becnme now the (avooritc Topic o* all
our C'oart-Poiiticiiai nnd PamphlrtKn i and in order lo
prevert the Couns of Vienna ai>d Madrid from arrying
iheir dangerous Drfigns into Execution, our Miniflcr pre*
vaitrd upon ut to fend out two powerful 5<]uadroDi, obc to
infuti the ^paniinJi upon their own Co-tllt, and ABMlNrr to
prevent the return of the Galleons ; but as France dtd Mt
intend, that we (hould reap any Advartige to oorrclve*, or
doSpain any real Injury, therefore, our ^uadron were oo(
lo attack ibc Spaniard* etlhet hy Sea rr Land, but only to
perftodctbera, in cafe we met with thrm at Sen, to deliver
their Treature into our H.tndj, in Truil for the IcvcnU Par-
tt*i concerned.
• Tiius, Sir. FratKe got us to clwflifc the Court of Spain
tor daring loakesoy Mnlum contrary- ipher Intcrtn ; aad
then (he macte a Merit at th^t Ccuit. of her banng pre-
vented ui Irom doirg any Miichief to them, aotwkhftaad-
iBg their having drtlarcd Waragitnft oi, and openly at-
tacked our Town of Gibraltar. By this Menn^ (nc laid a
FoortUtion for getting herfelf rnonriled with the Coonef
Spain, and by Mcin> of ihat Reconcilement, and ber I>jb>
enec upon our Minillcr. (he accomplilbed the other Poinl
She had in View, wbkh wai lo create a new Breach betwcra
Ibe Courti oJ Vienna and Madrid. For thii Purpaft, kM
inoA Chrtllian Majelly became now (be Mediator benMtt
Q» and the Court of S[wn, and by hit Mediation the Treaty
of Sc\-ii;ewu coflclwied, which createJ a new and alnofi
irrccoacUaMe
r to; )
jhit Breach bctueen the Courts of Vienna tnd j|nnoi4.CcD
U .1740.
thii TfCity we were brought upon the Brink of '-/'VX*^
to niter into a W-dt, m CcijuriAion nith
Spain, agaiiift the Emperor, the who:c Nation
okc the AUrm, fo that our MtDJIler wai obliged
' U hii Dwo Siftty ; and thib drove him prccipi-
Ibc Gturaaty of (ue Pngmahc Sariklion. in order
upon tb< Etgpcfor to aomit the Iccrodu^Mo oi
roopa iiico the ilrong Places of Ttiicany, Parpu,
tk. The Treat)' of Seville betag. by thii din-
r*(t\ Step, fully executed upon our Pirt, it wu
cjcpe^ a dae Performance on the Part of Spam:
having now by our Meani recovered iicr laRa-
f the Court uf Spain, and ii being highly ndvan-
for the Trade oi France 10 have Dilpuies alwiys
between Hi And Spiin. France took Care ihit
d peiivim nothing uf what hiiJ been prDmiTed
n by the Treaty ot Seville, except, I thinh, the
wioo of the Ship Pnncc rredcrlck, and perh^p* foine
E Other Ship* that had been liizcd in the Porta uf
at (Le Beginning af the Ru pture. A11 CO all our other
iod«, they rrmAtncd un4jj«llcd : The Tam foradjufl-
b/ CommiflJrici expired; that Term wm agjin
reMWrd, and in the mean time ihc Spani;iidA ex.
Right ihcy bad fct up, of fearching our Ships lq
ican Sell, ard Teizing fjcb of them at bid any
booid, whitb they were plciifed tocallt^M/jo^i;^.
ily Ufpr^d-ition* were committed upon our Mcr-
ihe WcllJndici; diily Comp!ainii wrre tnidc to
cr here : xod ;hu& ACiirs llccd, uhcii Fraocc, in
n with .SpjtnaMJ Sardinia, thought lit to xtlack
pcfor in the Vor 1733. with an avowed DrUgn to
In of all liii Dominion! in Italy.
ibr Bcjiniiing of the tatc !<cigD, Sir, the Power of
"" bf Aufirja wa« thought too »^eak, without the Ad-
*" \y to their other Itatbn Doininiot.!. A Mini-
i ■ r-J for Itaving thJt Houfc in foch a
; reaty of Uirerbt : V\'e hud piocurctl
the iixpeoce ofa War w^th Spain; bccauCt,
( to8 )
Annoi^,Cco Yean before guannty'd the Pragmatic Sinflion, by which
11.1740. [he biiiperut M^s ip<Juc:d to admit of the IntroduAion of
^^""^ Sp.inifti Iroops in:o July, whicli Troops were now employ-
ed in att4ckiiig him: And a third founded upon our own
panicu'a I':t;.-ell, bccaufe we could not othrrwife cxpeAio
obtain Saciaf-ctioii or Security from S^ain. The(e, Sir,
were weighty ConfiJcrations j but the Plan of Politics our
MinilUr had bid down, prevailed over all theie ; and we
coHtinucd idle, tho* not cxpencelefs Speclator.s till the Power
of ihe Houfc of Aullriawas diminifhed by the Lofi of Na-
ples and Sicily, and the Power of France increaled by the
Acccfiicin of Lorain.
* During this War, the Spaniards favoured us with fome
Sortof IntcnnilTton of Depredations ; but as foon as Jt wjt
over, they renewed them with more Vigour than ever, and
openly boifled of their being encournged, and that they
would be proteAei.1 ngiinll the liHifts of uur Refentment, by
France. A^our I'rade in general, as welt as our particular
Mercliants, fiiftered greatly by thcfe Dcprtdations, it was
highly the Interell of the Nation to infilt peremptorily upon
Sati&f^>^lion ; hut as this was contrary to the Tntcrell of
France, our Minillcr's I'lin of Politics prevailed over tbe
Ir.tcrcli of his Country, and ih.-* Cries of hii Coun:ryfneB.
At IxA fonu-lJiing mull be done for his Sif;:ty here at home,
and ata great Expencea Treaty wasob;ained. by whicli we
neither got SatisfiAion nor Stfcurity, buta FounJaiton for
another ten Vcan trifling Negociation. This, he fuund,
the N-ition was too wile to be amufid with, and therefore he
found himfi.lf under a Neceflity of entering into 3 War
Bgainll Spain : This Wsr, Sir, [he Court of Fr.incc mi
obliged tu connive at, rather thtn rijk the Loij of a Mini-
Her, who had (hewn himfelf Co much their biavc ; but how
was this War to be carri'.d on i According to the Intereft
of this Nation, it wai certainly to be carritd on in the moll
vigorous Manner, in order to make it of a (bore Duration |
and the mod exaft Care was to be taken of our Trade,
bccaul'e there only the Enemy could hurt us : But according
to the IntereA cf France, the War was to be carried on ia
that Manner, which might m^tke it the moll lalting, aod
mcll txpofie our Trade lo luffer by Spanilh Privateers ; be*
ciufc by this Means, our Trade might at lail be ruined paft
a'.l Redemption, and the Trade of Fr.ir.ce cflablifhed fo. as 10
be out of our Power to hurt i:. I Ihall leave Gentlemen to
jjjge, in which of thel'e Methods the War has been hitherto
c'trricd on : for if it has been carried 0.1 in the latter Me-
thod, it i:i a Proof tiiat ojr Miniltrr h3» tothi^ very Day
purfued that Plan of Fo^itics, which I have laid fae laid
down
( 109 )
his Conda£l, at the very Begirning cf his Admi- Annoi4,<;eo.
I. II. 1740.
dl bc«* !cave. Sir, to mention two other FaAs, ita i/^^^J
ihis Plan. By the Treaty of Utrecht, the Port and
of Dunkirk were to hedeftroyed, and never to be
i and by a Treaty between his Inte Majefty and
in the Year 1717, it was ftipubted. That no Port,
ir Fortilication Ihould be made or buih at Dunkirk
yke, or any other Place whatever along that Coaft.
vo Leagues of either of chofe two Places : Vet, Sir,
Si this Minifter began to have the chief Dirc&ion of
irs, not only the French began to ufe Dunkirk as a
E it Was admitted as fuch, and as a FlemiOi Port too,
fainding its being in the Poflcfllon of France, even
IT CulTom-koufe Books ; and great Quantities of
Brandies were not only allowed to be imported from
but to be imported as Flemifh Brandies, by which
lided paying ihe high Duties impofed by Law upon
Brandies. This Point being once gained, the
hon began to repair the Portiind Harbour of Dun-
as CO nuke the Harbour fit for receiving very large
lod now at Ull [hey have begun to repair [he rortili-
tnd crcA Batteries; (o that in Ciife of a War with
we may expert to ha\'e our Trade as much infilled
kirk Privateers, as ever it vt-as in the lall War.
b, Sir, is a farther Proof of our MtniUer'ii Complai-
■France: and in oiderto add .inocher to thir., Imuft
that both France and Spain hr.vc Irifb Rtgiments
Scpricc ; but tho' thofc Regiments are laid to be in
'ice of France or Spain, and receive their Pay from
Chritlian or liis molt Cilhcli:: Mnjcfty. ycc they
perly in (he Service of the I'rtrendcr, and acknow-
mfor their Kingandchicf MalUr. Therefore, if it
reafon, it is fumeihing very like Trealbn, 10 alTift or
U the Recruiting of thofe RegimeQttin any of his
s Briiilh Dominions: Yet fuch was our MiniAcr's
ifance tor France, that, at their Dcfire, he had like to
urred being guilty of this Crime. Nay, he would
■have incurred it. and thole Regiments would have
ruiced openly in thcfr Kirgdoms.and with the Con-
Hir Admlnillration, if fomt.- of thofe whom he has
k'd on as his Hnemie^, >'ii.l n^. warned him of hi^
I which ihews that their Oppcfition tu his Meafures
proceed from Malice and Refcniment, as he has al-
Lnoated, but from a Hncere Regard to the Guod of
)ontry ) for furely u malicioDs En^my would have
id to have fcenhim commit fuch a criminal Error,
and
f no )
Annot^.Ceo. and woaM, ibcrefqre, have uken nre not co prerem hi*
W. 1740- bciog guilty cF i(, by tore-warning him of his Imager.
V*/^"^' • HflVing now, I hope, Sir, lulBcienily dcitCkallmcd Obt
Minilier'j Plan of Politici wi:h regard lo foreiga Affuri, I
jfaalt rexc endeivour to inveltigacc and dcmon^nitc h:i Plti
of Politics With regard to our domctltc AffVin j nnd here,
be fccmi lo have laid it dowo at ■ Kule, to govrro bv the
fole Means of Bribery aodCorrupiion ; and ^ this P»'"-'i''
to prevent our being able to IdTen our Dtbti, or abo i
of our Taxe?, by ruooing the Nation eveiy Yeai tain t a •
ordtftary and unneuefl^ry Charges, and by every uihcr Me-
thod he could contrive. Upon hit fidl Acicnion to the
fole DircQiofl oi our public ASairi, we were in a faJr my
of being able in a/borltime to pay oiT every Shilling- '
public Debt. The South Sea Scheme, by its bcmg i
cdly coodu6cd. hid, indeed, rained many private ^'.
it was of fingular Service, attd might hive been m
much gtcatcr Service to the Pubic. (>jr I
were thereby made redeemable : The Iniciefl j .
moil of our public Dcbti was lo be reduced in a icw Vcuf
from Ji-vi to yiar fier Cfnt ; and the South Sea Compl&jr
were obliged topy oS ff-vtM MiUiimtof cur Dehti at onct,
by finking (a much of ibcir Oipiial. By thcJc Meani, de
Sinfciag tuiui woald have been fo much incrcaicd. t
it had been rehgioufly appticd, our public Debts mtght
been by thii time aJmoA enurely difcbargcd. and all tKt
gricvou» Tajcei abotiflicd ; but thii would nave very
leffcned the MiniflerS Fund for Corruption, by drmol
many of ibolc Pofli and Placei which be haiai hii f)ii'<
and therefore, according to hit Plan, this EffcCt w
means to be prevented : The public Charge wa» to b.; ;
tBCTe^red, in order to oblige ut to apply the ^in^cing
to the current Service, or to rua as much in D<bl with
Hand, ii we piid off with the other; and the Land*
wa< to be leprefentrd u the moll grievou* Tax lo tbc
tio4), bccaufc it Aimtlhed him with the lean Meao} for
mpcion.
* In PurTuance of theiie Maxim, the froem MWimt te
by the 5outh->ea Company to the Public waig< ' n-
leafrd, attd the Expcncet of the Dvtl-Lift w: .J
inereafcd, that a new Debt of ;oa,oooh wai ; jI
tbeVear 172;. for paying the Debts of the C- -.J
the like Sum hjid been granted to hit late NUjc/iv tat ik
Cime Purpofe. but Jjiir Year* before: and upuo hii prefctf
Mxjcily'i Acccffiun, an Addition of loo.oool. a Year wis
Buidcto the Civil LiA Revenue, bcbdet the i t;,ooo]. vbick
msgruued Ibr making good a prcttnkd Dc&tcacy ra tktf
RCVCAOt.
Be'**frgra««^WPr of lie fttivfeof AnllHa, {htx
•ra> ite lalJ, and hsd the lend to fi-ar, thfrefore we
bave been lh« Ul! thai put cutklvei tu &ny Expeitce
jj^iinJl thit Ojnger ; and yet we weie not only
life only Powrr in Europe that put itrelf to any
tt»t Account- The Du:ct> ihnt liy moft
fovcry litrle appre hen five, that they did not
secede to the Treaty of Hjnover till near ■ Year
Dtsde: nv.d the French who hid the mol^ to fear
Itiapce between the Jluipcror arvd Sp' ir^, put
ID Ittile or DO Expcncr, nor give a» nny AffilUttce
rre openly attacked by Spain, on airount of
for preventing ihe Dinger thry liy cxpolcd u>.
r look I :,oco HrlTiani immrdntely into our
il Siibiidtn to ttir Kicg of Sweden, the King oF
iHeOukeof WoJfvmSuttle : and wb.n was moH
iry. the Subtidy :o tbt Duke ol Wo ftmliuule
oird till hnlf a Year aTirr wr hid made up Mat-
e Emperor. an<* the HelTun Troops were comi-
Pay for llever»l Yesr* after.
rrirrr rr-ciudr. Sir, that all the extraordinary
■ ■ I to on a<-cotmt of. or eonfeqtient to
c er. could proceed from nothing but
n: our plying off uny confiJpnbJe Part of
iboliQiingany of our Tajie^; and iheabolifh-
t Duty ill the Year 175c. in order to ditninilli
Fund, ami rtviving if again in [he Year I7)2»
the latidT^x, iia farther Proof of thii Dtftgo.
uid be tedious (0 mrnnon all the Arguintmi ittii
irousbt (n Pro'T of ttiii Defign, and at I hive
ifttt iriiiwi Tiwailiwriw I ftall iiwiM*
( 112 )
Annoi4,Gco wliioli, Vm afxAtii^ w^II nevrr be ag^in, we mulT, 1 ihHtl:*
II 1740. conclude, [bit the Minillrr who drfractd it could hare 00
\y\/^\^ DcOgn ihac our Debti ihouM ever be p»td, or oar Ton
ilimioiQivd.
* Before 1 bare done, Sir. witb thi« MiniUci'i Cbqdofl, I
mud uke Nwice ^{ one ihing which itxi been too often prat-
tired aa.'icr all MinillEr^, asJ th'it if, the tettmg o' poblk
Seckiriiiei Hard am. witbouc any I-und foi their Paymcot, oU
tiiey ran ra a great Dilcoant, when Ihry are bought up bf
the Miniilcr't Frirr.dt and I'coli. pcrtiapt in I'rult for otm*
ficir, and ttien ;i KuimI is provided lor pa/ing them off At the
iuU Price. I'his, I lay, has been too oCcen pra^lcd under all
Minillen. when ihey could have any Opportuan)- at it, aai
thi) bai not been left urpra^ifed under thii Micilbr. Wc
all know what n prod]giui:iS;iiii that Debt due to the Ana/.
and to foK'ign Stiici, were at liji brought to, tvliicb cob-
tinued for IcveralVeanto circulate undcnhc Niircoi Anny
DebFctuitkiataik Inierell of /nr frr Crnt, without any Fu*d
forpyjng off the Principal. Mofl of thole UebeMurti th«
were certified before the 3 ill of March 1719, were lubtciihtd
irtlo the South Scu. Company, bot of them there len-.ifni
tufub&rtbed r^^ir 400,000!. and after (he itdcl
1719, new Army Debentures were made out for Dei
before Certibcd ^r near 550,000! (b that for fomc
bcfofcihe Vear 1727. there wat rear a MilUon cu^.^
is Aimy Debenture* it/mr prr Ctnt^ withotit any
Fond for p.-iyi»>gtbc Principal r for asihc Sinkirc^ I"
been ijipropriated 10 xhe PayinPntof Debi- conw-nt- -(->.f
the Vear 1 7 i5, fome People doub<cd if it could be a,'^ ;
(he Paymcnccf ihrfc Ocbcnturei « and as there mt ..
Bicat Number of them at M9rl:el, they came at bdi -jj be
loid at above 50I. ftr Ctnl. Dil^ount. But lowatds lh>
btter End of the Year 17^6. all that could be got ax <
Di'cuuct tvere bought up. and a certain Shop in thtt
Wji pjniculariy noted for the purchaling fuch Di^niiatJL
At UU. upon the 7th of March 1736. a Refoluiioo wai
CO JD thi) llouic, lu py off all thofe Army Oebcott
which puUic NotKc WM given, lad by an AQ of tbei
Srfliun, the Sinktng-Fund wit appropriated to the payiag
off all tJtcle Debentures at ihctr full Price, by wh'xb tk
M Puichileri got u a few Moniba above 30/«r Cem/ z}mt
Profit.
• Whether the Mjniller hitnfeirwa> personalty cti
lothi* joOb, 1 (halt not prcteod. Sir, todetertnir- '■■
Vt hi» Fiic:id> were known to be concerned in :■■
iberbc wu conceioed or no, it* 1 ;.m (ure, a <.
cas ncvci' be dccennincd aa losgai he has the U
If ^oblic AfFiiri, If lie iv»s perrorftUy concerned, or J
*•■ 'notice to hii Ffien-i, it was ccr«inly
' < Proof offrcli FaAi catinotbccx- ^
}- vr, and ai upon thrj Motfon \vc luvH
> ^ Inch pitiicular Cn.iiei jg^ioll bii^|
I '••ifig uxm, I Hull t)u: iiieaiion any more of
. c art oEhcti, ol much the fame Nature,
•■ v-n bfprded. I Uy, Sir, we hjivc no Oct
f , ■'S or proving any fuch Crimes for luppor
img ihii N[nion; and I mLiU Qiy, I iiin gmily rurprii
n Knr. jImJ fj.Ttc Cmlptncn who, I bclifve, mCAn wct
5*r.-.
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Gcntlcoim who fpoke fome ui_.
^-!ingu;(h between aMoiiooforim
Mill A Moiian for removing him ffOE.
A Motion lor aa Impcichmeat mul
>5 panicu'nr Allegitions of s crimii
.^Jiiitr Son of Proof of ihofe Altegationt,
■ an Bg'cc to It i but a Motion hic temovinf
ty fojnde<1, fl from the whn)e Tcn&r cf hi
M Id gcQcial, tliat he nicU cither h.ive
! be X very xvralc-Aljn. I have cJkpUinL.
Vha cf Poltic! with rcjsrd both ta foieigl
: I bare HickVii, ( tliiolc, (acb tliani
.'-Ing hit I'Un of Pohtict. (hat wc mul
■.vicked. Of 4 very wcaIc Minifler. Li
WT h-xVc toJo next Siimmcr: Wc ar
fjr « dew P4t|i<imcn( : WearcH
, -r Mfiltirc- f>r prclerving a Bu
c irrecyvciabt]
vvliiirt wc hj
It tnr ilr m, who bits lAid ic doMrn u\ x Maxitnj
.■ the (nt« Mf^fi* of Bribery and Conujji-oa ,
:nat any of the Pow^r! <>f Kurope *tiH entei
. r or Concert with us, whilU ciiir AWiin an
Ste D redion of a MiotRcr who ba) tbtwn hinrcl
.Jive Ui Fiance ?
lat « Oan^rr then. Sir, mull the I/brniei of ihii
' ■'* What a, Danger muft the Librrii '
*. to, bjr cuntiiKiing tliif Minillcr b
>n Power f If the Hunowrdble GcniJ
hii, Sir. I »m furr, he would not ul.
-yod for Evil, or of rffting ihU Minillc
JuOice whrt-h Ic dcnicJ to hit T't
: .1 which he hM ftiewi
.: him neither CJa^d noi
.^k-.i..id inro the lUnJi of A
Anno 14, Geo tioD or our public AiTairs, at fuch a critical CoDJunADie, is
II. 1743. doing the grcatell Evil, the greatelt InjulUcc to our CouDtry.
V./V"^^ Therefore, I hope, every Gentleman wbo„froin thia Midi-
Aer's former Conduct, and from the prefent mclancboljr
Situation of Af&irs, both Abroad and at Home, thinks he
has Rcafon to fufpefl his being either a very wicked, or a
very wfcak Minilter, will give his Affirmative to the piefeai
Queflion.
Sir Robert Walpole,
Si r.
Sir Ruberc ' I confefs, I am at a Lors what to fay, or how to jufiifjr
Wuljiolc. myfvlf on this Occafion. i had often heard, that fome
fuch Motion was defigned againll me; but I was always at
a Laf> t:> ccnjcAun: what the f honourable GeDtlemcn might
have to fuy in lupport of their Motion. My own InnoccKC
convinced mc, ihiy had oo real Crime, nor any wilfbl Neg-
IcA to lay to iny Charge; and I therefore fuppofed, they
had her.rd fomc malicious Stories, which they had givenioo
much Credit to. and which 1 might eaftty ftiew the Falfluwd
cf. when 1 came to hear tbcm explained. But now I ban.
heard the whole Charge againll me, I do not think there ii
any one Part of ii. except one fingle Fad, which is not a*
Ciurgc, not only againll his Majelly and all thofe of htl
Louncil, but ullo againll both Houfes of Parliament; u
well as againU mc. If 1 were to anfwcr for myfcif ajone,
] lhou]d think my Talk very eafy ; but ai I am to aorwcr
for Kiiigi IiOrds nnd Commons, ii gives me great Pain, k&
their Cauf'e Ihould fuller thro' any Incapacity in me: Y«
d<ingerou.4 and pnintul as the Talk is, I mull underuke it,
and IhAl be as concifc a& the Nature of the Catc will mdmil
of.
< I have, indeed, thiF Advantage, Sir, that all the QbJK-
tions now m..dc to the L'on<Jud uf the Admi nil! ration, haw
been alrcauy ar<M%cu'il to liii: Satl-fa^ion of a ^lajariiy of
hdihlloufef oi r.:i!:amcnt. utiu, 1 believe, to the Sati^faAiM
of a MnjoiiLv ot :lw better lort uf People in the Natioa;
thereilre, I nci-ii c:iiy rcjLSt a few ol iIjoIc Anlwen thai
have been m:Jv already, wiiich I Hull do in the Order of
1'init: in \^h;cii Jif Icvtrral Ti.infaiTiiuDj happened, and CM-
{;:q'.ic..i!) nuiii bigm whh our reiuiiiig to accept of the folt
.\!tdi.')l-un ciFc c<i us by Spjin, upon the Breach between
;)i:i[ Con:: r.n-J clic Cci^it of I'rancc, about the latter*!
:ir<;:':ing t*X &.c iutcndcl ?.!arriagc between their King and
ti:7 li.!.i:i:n cf S^.'iin. I hope it will not be faid, we ^ad
any Ruatun 1 0 qu:'.rtel \\'::h ri.tRce upon thst Account i and
ti.triTcTc, if CUM- n^iq-'iing of that .McdiacioQ might have
ocafioml
ficnedour qaamliing with Fiance, we hnd no OufiMrs Aifhou. (Teo.
it, ualelt we had {omctbing veiy benclicial forourftlves " '74"-
expect by the Acceptance, A KccoacilialioQ bcmcen the
suruof \ ienna ind Madrid W2», ic ii true, what wjt to
wiibcdfor by all Europe, u well ai bf u', frovicrd ic
been brcugtit about without, any Ddign to dilluib am
^nnquiility, or the Tranqtiilliiy oT Europe i but both Psr-
et were then To high in their DeniAndi. tliAt we could
|jpc for DO SucccTi; and iC the Ncgotiatioa bid ended
pithouc Elleti, we might have expected the common Face
Mtratorj, the diiobtiging of botli Panicj. There-
t, »i it Wat our Incercri to ktcp Well witli both, I itiull
ihink It v/ii the mod piudcnt Part we could ad, to
tl'ute the Mediation ofKred.
I'be ncic Step of ourforrigo Condufi fouTvd fault wich,
the Treaty of Hanover. Sit. tf I wete to give the true
liltory of ihat Treniy, which no Cjentleman cm defirc I
Sould, I amftite.! could fully jaftify my own Cordoct ; bt.t
1 liu Do<i Je^re to julUfy my uwn, witiiout jjllifv itig at the
itne time hu late Majclly'i ConduA, 1 miJll obieri'r, that
III late Majelly had Tuch lolivination, a* convinced rot oaly
1. but all thofe of his Council, both at 1 lame and Abtoid,
sat (ome dangerous Defigos had been formed bttwern the
tpcror and Spain, at t^e Time of ibcit concludirg the
Treaty at Vienna ia May lyxj- OtHgm. Sir, which ivcre
tngcroDi not only to the Liberties of this Nation, bat to
DC Liberties of Horopc. They were roi only to wrcH
'CibnUtir and Portmabone from tliii Nation, atid to force
tlir Prcirniicr upon ui, but they tvere to have Don Carlos
^^arricd to the Empeior'* eldcft Daughter, who would
Kbcttby hiiv« hid I Probability of uniting in bit Perfoo, or
*In tJ c Pcrfoo of fonie of hia Succe ilbn, the Crown& q|
France and Spain wiih the Imperial Dignity, and the Au>
taftrian Dominioni. It wj» tltcrrfore highly reaionabic, boih
^u) France and ut. to ijtke the AUiid at fuch Deftgnf, and to
^tbirik UcMisei of prevcniing their beingcajrted iiitoFaecJ-
tmn But with regard lo us, it was more particularly our
»r ' tiklcc the Alaiiiif bcctufe we wcie [O have been
u ly dltjckcd.
* 1 UiaJl gram. Sir, it would have been very ilith-u^t, if
not impoflibte, for Spain and the Emperor, joined tugeihcr,
»lo have in\;i(Jcd, or made themlclvcs Malle^^ot' any uf his
Klajclty'f Btmfh Dominion* ; but will it be fiiid. ihcy might
not hive mvaded his Mujclly'i Diutiniotu in CiCinuny, in
onjer (o /orce him to a ComplixPic with wli^i ilicy dclired
pf him, 31 King of Grent hnui'iai And if (hctte Dtuni*
had brcn invaded en account of i Qairrel with thU
Q 3 NatioD.
( ii6)
rAnno(4, ^'o Narinn, IhouM not wt have been ohttg'd, bath io Ho&o«r
JL »74* snd Jntctcft, lo drtrnd ihem ? When we vert tbai ihrn.
*«/'V"X-' tetied, it w>j ibeiefore aUblutelv reccflity for ui to nuke
tn Allianrc wiili Fnocc t and itui wc tn«gSt nw tniQ <oo
much to their Afiiiiitnce. it was likewilc i-frffiiry vj fotm
Allu&cei with tbe Nonhtrn Po*vfr>, mid n-icS f'-"- -* •*■-
Princci m Gctminy, whJLb we never did. nor cvc
wiihoui graotint; tiicm immediate ilubfiiliet. 'Ii^kc imu-
furcs wtrc (heitforc, I Kill ttiiuk, not only prudent but nc
ccfiiry. and by thefe Meafurei vvc maile u mi»<h mos' '
gcrciu fur ibc Emperor and S{um in attack Us, :
would oiherwilr bavcbrcn.
• Bui nil). Sir. iho' by ibefc Alliancetwe put ogi<«l*e(
upon an equal Fooiingw.ih our F.ncmici. In c.tic of nri Ar*
tacit, yet, in order lu picfcrvc ihe TraiinuiHiiy of FitrtjAf,
»i welt ai our oM-n, there wa lomcihtng elfejo be ilon '
knew thJt War cculJ no: be begun or caftied on v.
^oncy i we koKW that the Enipenji had no Mottey J.
Purpofc, witlioul receiving large Krini(i:iaret fibm ^ ^
and we knew 'hntSpiin could t^d htm ro fuch RcmitOKO
wilbout receiving Urge Returns of Tieafurc Irom ihe WeS-
Jndiex. Tiieunly Wjy iherrfure to render iheteiwo Po«*Q
inc«p«b'e of diliurbirg the 'rranqutlliiy of toiopc W3>. ti'
fending B Sqandfon to the Wcll-lndici to liop ibe Re:
the Spamlb Gallconii and (hu mflde it necefliiry
(amr'i line to lend a Squadron ro ibe Mediirrrsneaa, t
Security of our valaable Pof&ffioni in that Putt c:
World. By ihcfe Meal'utcs the Htnperor law !t wu n..:
fible tor him loaitack ui in any Part oi the World. { .
Spain could give him no Affilbnce either in \Iq\
Troopt ■ ard at for the Spaoiardi Attack upoo G<i'
it Wit fo Vain, We had no Ocnilon to call upon out
(or Aflitiance : A IidsU Squadron of oorown prrv:r:..i . . r
airtcking it by Sen, and from their Attack it Lin.i : hit
notbiog lu fear; ihcy might haw knocked ihci-
againlt iruicceQibIc Kecks, to ihii very Oi^y, wi
ing that l-ortrrfi into any Danger.
' I do nor p:eterKl, Sir, (a be a great Mailer of foreiga
Afiur»: In that Poll in whicti ( h^ve the Honoar to fcrve
his Majeity, it h not my BtifineU to meddle with ihrm i ud
a* one of till M.ijclly% Council I hare but one Voter ; but if
I hud been the iole Adviler of the I'mty ot Hanover, and
all the t*>>c--.fi.rri tli.it were taken in Purfutnceor ii. IrMn
what I lijive fji.l. I hope it will appcAr. that I do not Jrten*
IO be cenfuiffd. cilhei » a weak or a w.rked Mtnrflrr o«
thai Account t and now with regard to rhe Gaaraaty of iW
Pngmatic tModuiD, J km leaUy (urprifeU u> fiod that \fea-
(on
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I ihu Expence. we had expofed the Balance of Power to Anno 14, Geo.
i^er, or oorfelves to an Attack, it would have coll us, 'i-ii^'
sham, » hundred Times the Sum, before we could recover
Bvwt D-inger, or repel that Attack.
' la all (uch Cafei there will be a Variety of Opinions.
^rr*"*** *** ^ *^' °^ ^^°^* ^^° thought all [hole Ex-
BOCi BKefliiry. and I had the good Luck to have the Ma-
tmy of both Houfes of Parliament on my Side of the Quel-
Mj bot this, it feems. proceeded from Bribery and Cor-
|Kioa. St, if any one InHance hnd been mentioned; ii
Ind been (hewn, that I eve^ offered a Reward to any
[caber of either Houf;, or ever threained to deprive any
lanbcr of hi» Office or Employment, in order to influence
J vodoE in Parliament, there might have been Tome
raond for this Charge; but when it is fo generally laid, 1
I not know what I can fay to it, unlefs it be to deny it as
SKralljr and as pofitively aj it has been afTirrced: and,
■ik God ! till fome Proof be ofiered, I have the Liws of
he Land, ai well as the Liws of Charity in my Favour,
one Meiaben of both Hauler have, 'tis true, been re
und from their Employments under the Crown ; but were
key cm* told, either by me, or any other of his Mr.j,;[t) \
inmnti, that it was for oppcfing the Mcafures of ih: Ad -
■iaiinuon in Parliament i They were removed, becau:e
hii Majefly did not think fie to continae them longer in his
Snvice. His .Mnjclly had a Right to do fo, and I know no
Me thai has a Rignt to aft: him, What dod thou ? If hir>
Uljefty had a Mirni that the Favours of the Crown (houl'i
BRalate, would not this of irfelf be a good Renlon for re-
■mig any of his Servants? Would not this ReafoQ be ap
prandof by the whole Nation. e;:ccp:ihore ivho happ-'n !>.•
te ifcc prElent PoJTcfrurs ? I cannot thercfb.-c Ice, hu-v- tii^^
tu be imputed to me ai a Crime, or how zi-y of the .'-'.iri^'i^
iGaifteis can be blamed for his doing whnt the I'l^b^ic i,:-.-
II Concern in: for if the Public be well and f.iiEiifi.l:>'
^mtA, it has no Bufincfs to af-c by whom.
' ' Upon the Whole, Sir, it is a great C^mfoi: to Ric ::>
hi, that my Enemies, ;iltcr aJl thsir B3:;:ti:<3;. c.n !nv r. >
K'lilar Crime tn my Dsor, nor charge m:: Wiili ,-.n\ on^-
ladioa, at Home or Abroad, th.it his not haJ the A]i
nbotion of Parliament. And whitrvci l'coplcni:iy [h!:i:-:
f Cbe VVifdom of the .Idmjniitrrttton, for 1 am fuic I ih\\\
K dcfiie them to think wcil of mine, tholr ConJuct v.'.'.'
mkfjr itfcif Oar Tranquillity hts bscn ; rcrei vrd b:..:
Jmiad and at II;mr, notwithlhndia^ 1 nioi unrc::|.;:::S -
ti rio!cRi Oppoli:i<jn to all their McilLirvS : The t:'\- I- -
lit of the Nilion has be:n purfu^i: Ojr Iridc h? il''-
riri -i; -
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Arnoi^^Georifhed: A Part of our Debt hat been paid off"; ind the
II. 174a hnitd Interell has been very much eafed, with refpeCl to
XyW^iJ that mod unequu] and grievous Burden, the Dtnd-Tax. I
fay fot Sir, bccaufe upon Exnmination it will appear, that
nichjn thehfixfeen or fcvinUeit Years, no lefs than 8,000,
000 or our D^bt has been aAnally diJcharged, by the due
Appiicition of the Sinkirg-Fund, and at leaft 7,000.000
has been taken from that Fund, and applied to the Eafe of
the Land fax ; for if it hud not been applied to the cur-
rent Strvice, we mull have fupplied that Service by incmf-
ing the Lnnd-Tax; and as the Sinking-Fund was origioslly
deftgncd for paying off our Debts, and eafing lu of oor
Taxes, the applying it in Eafe of the f^nd-Tax, u'as cer-
tainty as proper and as neceffary an Ufe as it could be ap-
plied to.
* But. Sir. [ had almod forgot one F.i^, which feeni Ml
be a particular Crime charged againll roe, ] mean that re-
lating 10 Army-Debentures. I am fjrprized. Sir, to heir
any thing relating to this AfTilr charged upon me : What-
ever B!iime there miy be in this Aflair, iioughtto be phcd
10 the Account q\ thofe thnt were in Power, when I was, u
they ca!l it. the Country Gentleman : Ii was by ihem thu
Affiirwasfei on Foot and conduced, and I came in only n
pay off ihofc public Securities, whi^h their MaDageowM
h.'id brought CO :i great Difcount, and confcguently 10 redeoi
our public Crrdit from that Rrproach, which they hid
brought upon it. Thrfe Army-Debentures being at a grett
Difcoui't, was a flrong Reafun, and tlie Reifon that pre*
v..iled with the Pnr!i.tmcnt, to apply the Sinking Fund firft
tJ tl'C p<y'"S '•'^ \\\o\t. DcbenturL'S, but they cnu'd Tiot Ipp'j
the Sinking Fund to that Purpcfe, till it began to produce
{omeiliip'g ronii-lerable, which was not till the Vear 1717.
That tiii: Sirit;ing Fund was then lo receive a great Addi-
rion, w.is a F.i£l publi<.ly known in the Year 1726; and if
lome IVcp'c were quick-lighted enough to forefcc, that the
r.iili:iin?nc would probably make this Ufe of it. andcunnl^
enough to iii:ike the molt of their own Forefighc, coaUl
help It, or coulk! tl'.cy be blamed for doing for But [ dcfr
my murt invcier.ite Enemy to prove, that I had any Hand l>
i>rirg'ng t1:c(c Dibrnture^ ,to a Difcount, Or that I had uj
Share in the- Profits made bybuyirg them up.
• I'o co'-.clude. Sir, iho' I (hall always be proud of tbfl
Honour tf any TruK or Confidence from his Majefly, yet I
fhall ;i!w: ys be re:.dy to remove from his Councils and Pit-
IVncc, wlK-n he thinks iit 1 fliould do fo; and therefore t
fhculd ihiiik myfelf very little concerned in the Event of
:he preCvnt QuelUon, if it were not for the locroachmcm
that
Encrotcbticrttt that wis ever made upoa the Prerogatives
of the Crowo i and tbertfore, for the fake of my Mailer,
■^vtthouc anj* Regard lo my own, 1 hope all thofe chaihare
'Wk due Regard fjT our Coanitution. arid for (he Rights and
frcrogatit'ci of the Crowit, wit^I>ut which our CoatlitutJoa
tntioi be prelervrd, wiil t>e again:! thi* Motion.*
The whj!e Debate continusd from rlcirn o'clock in the
fccrnoon till put ibtee the ticxt Moniirg. before tvbich
*Time above fiicty, fuppofed to be of the Minority, left the
Yiottfc : So (bat on the Divifion, the Motion wu carried iq
ic Negative, Ayei 106, Noci 290.
[The i6tb. Agreed to the Report of [he BiU toexp'sln and
irnd an Afl 3d King Jamei I. tor the Recovery of fm»ll
ihn, and for the Relieving of poor Debtors in London.
Ordered it to be eogrofied.
Read n frll time tiie Mirtiny and Dcfert ion- Bill.
Read a third time, and pafTej the Bill for liccRfing the Tm-
Htaiion of \'ictu2l from Ireland, &c. into Scotland ia
rime of Scarcity. Ordered it 10 the Lorda.
The i7ih. Read a kcood ume the Mmioy and Dcfettion-
1)1.
Read a fecond time the Weamifl(leT-Brtdge-Bi!l. *
Ag^Crd to the Repott orf Yclttrdiy's RetrHuhon Oa Ways
Rd Means i vix Rrfolved, that the Duties on Sale, and a].
on Red and Wbtte Herringi [delivered out for Home
>nfiJmprio», which by an A&. 3th King George II. Hvere
conimoed to the 2;th of Mirch 1746, be tunber continued
10 t^e Xjtbof iVtvrch IJH- Ordered lO a Bill accordingly .
Then proceeded 10 ifie tnrther Hen ring of the Maiierof R«*d'ngKilec.
(he Pet.tion of J.-hn. Dodd Elq; complaining of ^n undue *"'"^""^"*-
Election and Return for the Borough of Reading m the
County of Herlc!. And the Cminfet were cjlled in; and fc-
verai Wirncfrei exitnineii in behalf of William Strode, E191
Gtting Member! and having tintlbed ihnr Eviceoce. the
^Counlcl on both iidrs were dtreded to withdraw. And a
Hfoiian being m^ide ard the QiKilion pjt, that William
^Krode, Efq: It duly ele£)ed a Burgcls to ferve in thrt prefent
BFatliamcBI, or the Sotou^h of Reading in the County of
VBerki; it pa Bed in ihc Negative, Ayr* 155, Noei 141.
Rclolred, that John Dodd, Et'q; is July Ele^cd, &c.
The i8ih Read a third Time and palFcd the Bill to ex-
plain and imcnd an AA 3d King Jamct 1. fur ibe Rccovci-
Vol VII. R icg
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Annot4,Gro. JTigof ftnall Debt*, and for the Relieving of poor Debten to
II. 1740. London. Ordered it to the Lords.
\,y^ir\J Read a firrt time, a Bill for granting and cootinaing the
Dutiei upon Salt, and upon Red and White Herrings for a
farther Term.
Readafirll time a Bill to indemnify Proteftant Purchafert
of Eflates of Papilla, againll the Penalties or Forfeitures Pa-
pifts are liable to, for not having enrolled their Eftatei, io
purfuanceof an A£t 3d King George I.
In a grand Committee made fome Progrefs on the Bill to
prevent Inconveniences arifing by Delays of Ciu&s aficr
Iflue joined ; and 10 proceed on the Z4ih Inihot.
The 19th. Rcsd a fecond Time the Bill for continuing
the Duties upon Salt, and on Red and White Herrings for a
• further Term.
Read a lir(l time a Bill to exprain and amend To much of
an Aft 6th King George I. fir bttttr pcuring tp-tmim Ptvuri
and Privilt-^ti iutmJed to be g^ranttd iy bit Majtfiy^ bj /«■'•
Cbartat for Affuranct rf Sbipi ami Mtrcbani'iKit mt Sta, *Mi
fir linding Money upon Boltcmryt and fir refirainiHg ftvrr»l 1
txtravflgant and umt-arrantablt Pra/futJ tbgrein mintiontd, a»
reUtes to the extrav.igiat and Lowarrantable Practices there-
in mentioned. !
In a grand Committee, went thro* the Bill to indenaify
Ferlbns who have omittL-d to take the Oaths, &c. with fefc-
ral Amendments.
• Rt^ad a I'erond time jhe Bill for opening a Tnde to ■l'
from Pcrfn through Ruflia.
The :o:.i. .Agreed to the Report of the Oith-Billi or-
dered 1: to te irgrojftd.
In a gr.ind Ccmminee took into Confideration the feTCnl
Peti:ian> prelenied to the Houfe on the Decay of the Wool*
kn Mar.uUclures: and Mr. Webber was called in and CKi-
mincd conLcrning his Scheme tor a univerfal Rrgillry of
'Wool ; CO proceed on the zjth IniUni.
The Z2J. Received FctiEions fram the Counties of Efo
and G'cucclier, icpreieRtingcu the Honre, That fhookl tht
Bill foropenii:<;d 'I':ade to and (rum Perlia through RuAa
pafs inioa L^w, it u'ljj greatly dikourage the Maoufilftire
ot Clcth in thii Kingdom i and therefore praying that thl
Bill m.iy nut pais into a Law, unlets ProviGoa be mdt
therein, tu oblgc the Trdders to Perfia throngh Ruffii vt
export in Woolitrn Cloths to the amount of the Valoc of the
Rau-Silk. and other the Perfian Commodities ihcf kU
impcri from Rullia: Referred to the Committee of il»
whole HouTs.
Ordered, That Mr. Ncttleion, Mr. Dii^ ley, aad Mr.
Graaottt,
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Gnmotte, Raffia Merchants, du attend the fjiid Committee Annoi4,Geo
utbe 26th Inltant. U ^74°
Read a fecoDd time, a Bill for the Eijcouragement of Sea- V-^'VXi^
Bcm,iDdibr the better and tpccdier Mannii.g his Majdlly'i
FkcL
Rdbawd the adjourned Confidcration of the Report of
Ae BiJI for ibe Recoveiy of Small Debts, r.nd ordered it to
be ingroflied.
The a^th. Read t third time, and psidA the Bill forin-
demntfying Perfons who havcumittrdioq'inlit')' tlirmfclves
£ir Offices and Employments within ilic (iiue limited by
Law, and for allowing a fAnher time for that puipofe : Or-
dered it to the Lords.
Rnd a fecood time, a Bill to indemnify Proteflant Pur-
cbafers of Ellates of Papills, Sec.
la a Commiiice, went thro' the Bill to prevent fnconve-
nieocies arlGng by DeUyi of Ciules after lITue joined, with
fereral Amendment!.
In a Committee on the Bill f>r punifhing Mutiny and ptbitc on rht
Defertion, a DcDste arofe as lulli^ws : (jiurrcnng of
Soldivrs.
Sir William Yonge.
Si a,
■ Oae of the greatell PerfeAions the Laws cf any Coun- ,i;jr William
Irycui be attended with, is, to l*efo plain, precife. and ex- Yonge.
prdi in all their CUafei, as not to admit of nny Doubt, Un-
cenainty or double Meaning. 'I'his is a Rule, which ought
to be obfcrved, as far as is confident witii humnn Wcaknefs,
i& the forming of every new i^w ; and in no lore of Laws
if It more neceiT^ry, tiian in thoi'e that are made (or regulat-
iagibc Behaviour of the Civil nnd Military Power towards
Oae another; for nothing contributes more towards making
the Army and the People live caiily together, than to have
Aar refpedive Rights and Privileges fjily and clearly dc-
Mtakined, fo asthatcveiy Soldier may kn-iw the oimofl he
CiB expefU and that his Landlord, or any other Perfon he
)w w do with, may know what is due to him.
' Tbia beiag the Cafe, Sir, as you are now upon thae
Kit for regulating the Army r.nd their Quarters, which
Md yearly, in this Kingdom, and as a Doubt has arifen
■pa* (one Claofei inlcrted in all former AAs of the fame
■tuc, the Duty of my Office makes it incumbent on me
Hacquaint you with that Doubi, iind to propofea Method
Wabviating it for the future, in all former Mutiny-Bills,
■ kil in all that have been of late Years pafTed into Laws,
kku been cnaCbd, <* That the Officers and Soldier) qn»r-
Mdu dircded b; tbc-AA, ffiall be recei?ed'by the OMnncri
R z of
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Annoi4,Geo of the Inn», Mcl Other Houfes in which thcf are fo qlIa^
II. 1740 tcrcd; and (h&ll pay fuch reafonable Prices ai Ihall frcm
^*y^y^\m^ Time to time be appointed by the Juilices of ihe Peace,
who are thereby empowered to appoint fuch reafonable Rata
for all ncceflary Provifions for Officers and Soldiers, for one
or more Nights, in alt Places which they {hdll come to is
their March, or which fliall be appointed for their ReGdence
and Quiirtert." And by another CUufe io the Taid Bills it
has been enabled, •* That the Officers, when thry receive
the Pay of any Regiment, Troop, or Company, ftiail give
public Notice thereof to all the Inns, and other Places where
th( OfEcersand Soldiers are quartered, that they may bnog
in their Accounts ; which Accounts the Officer or Officcrk
receiving the Pay, are required toacccpt of, and immedi-
ately pay the fame, before tiic Subfiltence or P^y Ihall bi
dillributed, cither to Officers or Soldier.':, provided the faid
Accounts exceed not the levcral Rates therein mentioRed
and afcertaiiied."
' From thefe Claufw, Sir, it has been, till very lately,
thought, that the Ownen of Inns, and other Places where
Soldiers are allowed to be quartered, were obliged to lumift
the Soldiers with Diet and fmall Beer for themfilvo, awl
with Hay and Straw for their Horle;!, if demanded j and
the Owners of Inm and other fuch Place)! have, till bf Ute,
generally done fo, without charging more fiir it in their
Accounts, than the Paymallcr was by A£l of Pailiamcnl
required and limited to pay: }Jut of la:c Years ;• d<fIeieol
w.-iy of Thinking has begun to prevail ; and the Owners of
]iins and other Places have begun to rcfulc to ftirniOi llic
Soldiers with Diet or Sniall Beer for thcmlcives, or with Hay
and Straw for their Horfej, at the Rates altoweii by the Go-
vernment, pretending, that by the Wurds cf the Afl, the^
are not obliged to funiifh Soldiers with any of thefe NeccI*
lariei, unlets they approve of the Prices nil o^e J by the Go-
vcrnmentt or appointed by the Julticesof PL':.ce.
* One of the firll Difputc:, Sir, of this kind happened
but lafl Year at Wakefield, where the Price cf Hay hid,
during the hard Frolt, liien to an excellive Height: Upoa
this, the juilices of Peace in that Divifion took the Cife into
ilieir L'oniider:.tion,andappcinted the Rate for Hay fora Hor:«
to be Sd. per Diem. As this was id. per Diem above what
Was ;>ttow*d by A&. of Parliament, the Dragoons fcmpKd
paying it, and the Officers lent a Letter to me on the Subje&:
J'^is Letter I laid before the Attorney-General, and after he
had cooGdcred the Cafe, his Opinion was. that the Juftka
of Peace had exceeded the Powers given them by A€l of
Parliament i that they were to appoint the Rates of neceT-
Uijr
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^*iGoai for the Sonlicrt aod ttieirlioKet, but not Co Annnr^.flfro.
mcnl tbc iMIawADLC given by ihc Govrrnmcni. nnd "• '74^-
My limtud by the very Afl itrdf; andthmhc Oivn- l-^V^V^
' lofti, SDtJ uthfr Houtei where Soldiers i^ appoiotcd
|w to br ijiuiieied, u-ere obliged to furnjUi ihetn with
by Provifiuns tor themfclves ant) Horle;, at a loner
|k»a what wai nllowed by Law, if ihc Judice^ Uiould
U It to be fo, but ttiat neitlict tiicy oultJ re(]uirr, nor
LAicei appoiat any higher Kail*; (o be paid ; and I mull
I it moU reiroeible ii (hsuld be (o ; For a Soldier has at
nm one ceruin^uDifurm Pay- fiom the Governmenti
[■yniioftot rife and f4ll asorber People* \io^ according
\ Price o* Provifion*, or the Demand for Workmco »
ty ii alwtyi the fame, and the Allowioce appointRl
tw 11 the bighc(\ that Pay will admit of: lie louU be
rtol, ftud therefore, in Time) of Scarcity, yoa muS
r ui^nieDt the P.iy of your Soldien. or you mull o-
[thate. wbr/e tbty ve i]iur(cred( to lurnifh them wiili
Etrr Proviiioas at thofe K-ttcft. wbich ibcir Pay wlQ
■^miA uke notice. Sir, i hit. be rare fbii Difpaie
^^L there hid been one of much lite fame nature u
PP' There, the Ofncrsof Iniij, Alehoufes. aod ibt
^ven rrfafcd the So'dicrt tbe Ufc of clitir Firctor U-
lodrrft their ViduaU: I'hey would allow them at}
Beer to diitilc, nor fo mucb a* Silt to their Pottage.
'•" : >A a \Urch cnnnot carry t Ri'chen, a Sick of
CiK L>( Sinail Beer upon Uii Ba'^k : rhey rauR
hingi at the i'liices whrre they arc qjai--
ric they had a Right to infiit iipon Lairing
J tike to have bred a 'i'umult betwixt the
. nftncn. 'I'bii Cafe w&s laid before thtl
General, now Lord Cl.ief Juilice Willcs, and
.11. Thii the OM'ncn of il^c Iloufc^ where
kwvn Mtrr ijturterrd, were oMiged to allow tbctn
Small Beer at the Gwcrnmciit't Allowance, or
pcT Rite, if ibe JuiUccs of Peace Ox>utd order
^not tityfelf. Sir, preirn.'! ?o any great Knowledge
r, oc to the An of pnnirig the proper Meaning
Vordt of an ACL of ['..tli:iinent t bat upon ibele
I think, I 'I'.r,.,. I c accufed of pafling i rail)
if J (ly, ih:. hiM, by the Law* of thli
a Riglil [o -..uii Diet and Snult Beer for
I, and Hay ana Straw for their Horres, from the
tri of the Innt or Houf» where they are quaneted j
E Stole of the A£Li of I'^rliament
mad«
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Anne 14, Geo. made for this Purpofe, feems as clemr as Words can make it-
[U. 1740. However, there are many Lawyers, it reemi, clpeci>lly in
V./^'Vr the Country, who think oihcrwiie; and the People, depend-
ing upon their Opinion, have now, in many PJaccs, begnn
to refufe Diet and Small Beer to the Soldiers quartered ia
their Houfc!. I do not know but they may Toon begin 10
jxfulie a Soldier a Bed. They have, I think, as ^od a
Right to refufe ibe one as the other i for the Law fays oaly,
ihey Oiall receive the Soldiers quartered upon them : It does
not iay, they {hall fitrnilh them with Beds, no more than k
fays, ihcy Ihall furnilh them with Diet .ind Sm^iU Beer.
Till now it h:is alnaysbcen fuppoJed, that by receiving mw
meant, to furnifh the Soldier with fuch a Bed at he couU
lie on, and with necflT4ry Frovifions at fiich a Price at he
roqld pay. B-.it a different Intfrpretaiion is now put apoa
this Woid : an-J as the DoAors of the Law thus dttfa
among themfe.veii, the Julhccf of the Prjcc do not know
how to behave. Jf you tjo not put an Knd to the Difpot^
by adding a few explanatory Words to the Jj'w, which fat
arc ROW to revive, a Liw Suit mult, rnJ is to be begun by
Ititorination. for terminating tins Difpute.
* Till-, Sir, will be atieitdcd uith u great Fjcpence to tfat
Pubix. as will as to the Pcrfon^ tlial arc to be fucd, whicl^
I think, you ought to prevent, nuw ym hjve fo fuir an Op-
, portunily. Gut what is much worfe tlian the Expence at-
tending a Liw Suit, if, upon the Event of a Law Suit, il'
Hiould b<- found, that the Owners of Uuulcs where Soldicn
arc quAricrrd, arc not by Iaw obliged 10 funifh them with
Diet ami 8in»ll Btcr at the Goveriimcm't AUowaDcr, «
with any thing die bcfidtjs Houle-rocm, the Co-jntry Pe»
f'e, who niituraliy do r^t mucii like So'tliers, will ukeall
the Advantiigc they cnn of what ib di:c.aied to be Law, ui
this may oceafion u geacrHl Mutiny in your Army ; for «
(iic other hand, the Soldiers. .Men who have got Anas il
their Hands and who hive been taught how to ule then,
won't like to give up a Right, they think, they have a Jul
'I'itle to, .ind a Rij^.''. which they have enjoyed fur at Iw
thrceft. Ui; Vears without Interruption.
« ■ For preventing thefc Dingers, Sir, I have drawn up I
CLiufe, as I thought I was, by the Duty of my Ofice, «•
hiigcd to do, which I fhall beg leave to lay before yo*>
What I prcpofe is, that inllcad of the ufual Claafc fbro-
bilging the Inn-kceperi and others to receive the Soldkrt
nil'eud upon them, you fliou:d inlert a Claule at falkM:
■' Provided nevertheJefs, and it is hereby enafied, thaiiki
Ofiiceri and Soldiers fo quartered and biilettcd » af,H«£udi
fliall be Fcceived, and furaifiii with Ditt ttad SmmH-Bsmt
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the Ownen of the Inns, Livery -Scabies, Alehoufes. Vic- Annoi4,Gco.
iliflg-Houfes, and other Houfes, in wbich they sre aU I'- 1740-
■ai lobe quirtered and billeted by this A& ; paying and L/^VT\J
iHHilf /ir tbt fumi tht fevtrai Rates htrein a/Ur men-
wti, A Af p^abli Qui of tl/eSul>fiSt.nci-MMej for Diet and
Sik.
■ It is >n unfortunate State we are fallen into, that every ^^^ San^n.
Boa of Parliamtnt mult l>e attended with new Laws, or Eil^
m CUufes 10 old L»ws, for oppreOing the induflriout Sub-
S, lad endangering the Liberties of ibe Country. It is im-
Ale to levy high Duties upon the Neceflaries or Conve-
ned ftf Life, it is impoflible to keep up numerous Slanding-
min, without fuch I^ws or fuch Claufes ; and yet we
ifc, fat twenQr Ycari, been contriving how to continue and
CRifcboih. The high Duties we groan under, were in-
Bdwed for fopporiing a heavy and expcnlive but nectiTi-
' War; boi how the keeping up ofa numerouii Standing-
imf h) Time of Peace, was iotroduced, I can no other way
nwM for, than by luppofing, that it was neced'-try for fup-
irtjof unpopolar, deftruftive Meafures, and a hated Mini-
ir. i am furpri2ed to hear the forcible Quartering of Sol-
Icn npon public or private Houfes infilled on, as if it were
MceCiry Mean for ihe Support of our Government. Sir,
we woe to attend UriAly to our Conllitution, even as it
ndiac prefent, we ought, in no Mutiny-Bill, to admit of
■ Qoartrrtng of Soldiers, even on Pub'ic Houfes, except
iraficw Nights, in their March from one Garrifonto ano'
ier, or for the Aril Night after they arrive at the Place de>
|PHd for their Refidence. Tho' we now keep up, tbo' we
«ve loag kept up a great Number of Standing- Forces in
naeof Pace, yet, properly fpcaking, they are no more
km is fofrnfed to be necefTiry for Guards and Garrifons \
■1 accordingly the Refolution annually agreed to in this
Harfe u, *• That the Number of efleftive Men to be pro-
lihd for Guards and Garrifons in Great Britain, for the en-
i^ Year, Qiall be fuch a Number as is then thought necef-
ftty." Before the Revolution we had Guards at^ Garrifons,
tta in Tine of Peace ; but before the Revolution, nor for
&M Years after, we had 00 Quartering of Soldiers, either
ri public or private Houfes, in Time of Peace, wiihont
MBfent of the Owner. On the contrary, by an exprefs
Inr. tbc latter End of King Charles lid's Reiga. it was
■rfied, *• That no Officer, mitiury or civil, or other
Vrfba* flail quarter or billet any Soldier upon any Inhabi-
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Anno 14. Geo
n 1740.
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tant of thU Rralm, wiihout hii Cofifcnt;" ythkh \mv Icol
in force till near die End cfthe Year 1693, wbtn tfae itA
Liw wat mtdc forquancring SoUljcra in Putilic-HDolcf-
' Before thxt Ynr, Sir, our Guardi and Girriron;. br
which, I mem «U the SjUliets we had gn Foot, c
their marching from one Place co aoochrr, were obli^
quarter cheielvct at other TriTrllen do, ioHoulei ttut were
MriUing to receit-e tbem ; and when thc^ came to any Oani*
{oa or Place were they were to lefidc, cii'rry Ofikcr tti
Soldier provided Quarters for himfelfj In which. I br'"-*-'-.
there Wit no Inconvenience found ; for when Soldten I
civtil)', ami are agreeable [o (he People, there will ilwn . . »;
Koufes enough, either public or private, that wiil be gUd id
receive them for what they are able to pay, onlels ihcr- ''-:
greater Number of them than the Place can convcr>
accooimodate. From the Revoluiion to the Vemr 1692, wi
had a fort of Civij War amorgtl oorfclves, for Irelaitd un
not entirely reilac'd till thcEnd ofche Yeargi ; attdaabuw
mrma fltni l--%tt, perhaps, during ibsi 'J'inie. fone Libenm
were taken with itic Law*, in refpcA to Quartering or Bi^
leiing c( SoldicTi. But in the Year 92, the domcttic Trtt>-
quiliiyofihe three Kingdoms being ic ellabti(h'd, il^t '
liament began ro think of rcitonng thcl^wi 10 ihca
tine Force. H<)wevrr, as we were then ccgiged id s dAD-
gcrous for>:ign War. >t>d upon that Account obliged to fceqt
agtcacer Number of Troops thin ufoal ; and as our Tcoopa
were often obliged to march in great Bodies, either from one
Place of the Kingdom to another, at Danger ifarea::
through the Kingdom in their H-ay to Flaniderf. the t _. ._
ment law it woold be necrlT'iry to provide Quarters for then
upon their March, in a dtfTercai Manocr from what had b«>
fore been allowed by Law; and therefore m the Mutia]-
Bill for the enfaing Year, ivhich then httl begin to be rt'
titled. A Bill for ponilhing Officers and Soldiers ubo Qofl
fouilny or dcfcrt tneir Majellies Service, atid for eunili
faifc Muders, and for the Payment of Quarters, the On
for quiriering SolHiera in Public-Hourci, without C(
of the Owner, nii introduced, and ha» ever finer n
in all the Mutiny-Bills p30cd, to thia very Day; lor a
voorite Pon-er once granred to the Crown, i» feldom !
cd by the Subjcd. without iome remarkable Revolotloftii
our GovenmetiL
■ But by thu Claufe, as the AA then Itood, 1: vrsi DOI 1^
trndcd. that Soldier! ihould be quiitet'd or billrtrd nlki
Placet appointed for :'<cir Refidcnce, even iDdecd apon Pw^
lic-Houlc%, without the Confcot of the Owner. Al \gA %
wai DOC totcndcd, tfccy Ihoold be fo quartcr'd for uy IcwfB
thaa
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firft Night «/terihcir ArnvW. Thit this w as th«
flt the Ad. is, 1 thiok, pUin, from the rcxc CUufe
whtrebj'it iieiiadcd, " 1'hat OfEccfj and SoU
;cd^ » dirt^fld by the preceding Claufe, dull
i^un^Ue pDCn IS fliall btr appointed by the juf-
:c in their Quarter Sc^iuos; and the Jollices
required to ict Ratri lur Proviftofis, lot ooe
Nigliu in ihrir Marching, and the hrit Ntgbtonljr
:• «{>pumicd lor tbcir kclidence.
Id. 1 think. Sir, plainly fhrw*, that, in Pbcc; ;ip.
lar the KctiJcoLc ol ^oldirtt fur any rimr, neifhtr
nor SoMier was to be quaiKr'd for more iii»B the
^vgbt. upon £Ry Uuulc, publK or pnvKrjsnd the
It cviilcnt. brcjule, being then Ictilrd, if they could
lagTCy *ith their Uindlords, where they were hid iodg'tl,
itiooance, iliry might ncxi Day look out for, and
Lfidgingt Or Quancis Tor themtclns. It way
totendcd to give any Soldier, and much left an Of-
tightto lodge in ifie belt Uoom clan Ion or Alchoule,
paying my Thing ibr ii. and thai, peihapj, far a
lor fai letcral V'cart tsgethcr. Even when tlicy were
>Mvcb, or Tor ibe hrtt Nigbt after cixir Arhira] «c
■|je 3?itjir;fd for thtir RcQdencc. they Were not to
: abloluiely itct ; bccauiJe the Tullicrs
.- ..-\c m Kcgaid io tbe Expcnce and '1 rouble
[ioj them, whet> they feitled the Rate* they were to
"' - "oni. I'he tnoJern Pra^icc of gtrtag every
icra free Lodging in the Hotilc where he is
>ii[iA«r he fpcnds any of bii Money there or so,
the Place where he is appomied ip telidc, as
hs u upon • Matcti, would then ha\e beea re>
great Contempt, if tt had been proposed; for ic
Uyiiig a lax upon the SubjeA, without the Conlenc
bCM, at k«ll without any ijeh Cunfetit cbninrd in
^ nd acCQniing (o itie ulual Mechodiof
.icac, when the Sjbjccli, or ^ny Pan of
. u* to be iMucd with a new T^r. Cut, a Foondatian
^Mg tkiu JaiH lor fib'ij;inrr our PubliC-Houfes lo give frcA
Wgwrgtc ArNigiiu in their March, tod
fclit b'li -^ ., rrival at tt.e Place where ibey
Mk t^puiDWu 10 reluie, a Pretcocc was Irtim tbencv takca
)i«6A, i4itSotdicnwereaIwayi tobei Load apon oar Pub*
ic'Houica. aid to be entitled to have alMayt a free Lcdgtng
itkaPlacea appointed fqr iheir Kriidence. Prriiapt
of thii tint Law were left a little dou&i&l, oa
[to draw tlul Infcicncc ftom them i bat thii wu dot
, Vll. $ enough
1
Anno /4, Geo
II. 1740.
tnn<t-4,QrO; «B«lgh i for. in ofdfr to give SoMim i>
ft- t'y\^- thu trni I>odging for ever, tfcc Wdh1» i
terwnrdk ilterM, and ilic jullicc* were rcquiiwi CQ lo and
appoint fucli renfoDftble R«l« (or all wrcetliry iVrvifl^i
Ibr foch OfficcTt and SoUicrs. lot c^c or tncrr
Clic (event P^es which (hey Quit come to in tu-.'-.
or «pti»cb ftwU be appointed for their Rclu^c« ftnd QgU'
Un.
* Thds. Sir, you Cer what an encroaching ibiwg an Army
H. and I wifh it did not encroach upon u» ift any mo*r *"
ecroui Reipcil. Thti of free-Lodgirg for Sotdicn >
BecDtne a continual and tf.lltd tix opon the Pub1ir-(
iu all Ptarts where Sohiiers are uluslly Appf^iotcd to
£vefyfiKh Houfc Jim gercrally oreSg'tlicr at (eal! <im(Wia
upon it ; and it the L:indlord dcxt not give hu Ciuefi lochl
Lodging at pkalct him, he ii> >'<i (och a Sum Wtl»
Jy athcflwU dctnand./orliii : ^ iiiaiielf with a Lod^
iBg. Heie tD WVWmiufler it a by Lu'^om trtilcd it 9^. 1
Week, that, it 395. p^r Jnnum, \ot * commf^" Stt'dipr i »•*
confrqurotiy (lie Oncers, if they fhou!d 1: . aight
farety dcmaod 1 great deal more. U r.ai > iJXtH
Ue SufcjeA f h it not inctcaring the Pay ol ^,
k'ithout any proper Irgil Aochority for cither i ■ i.
&ir, Ift the mote grievous, brnufa of iti being raUnt affS
Part of the People only : atitt it is the more dangeiOM, fa»
canTe 1 MinilUr niay rdtfe it in what Plwei, >IM w «to
f roporuom ho plc:dleit. and conrei[oeniiy nay naka k *
Handle tor oppitfliag thofe CoaniKi, Ciliet, and Boravftak
tbu do not feed hint up fuch Membcri to ibn Ho«fie, •
br Aull pJc-ile 10 dirc^. But thU Handle ii nn;, u inaiH
(olEocni, ibercforc fome new Strength moll !— -"-••1
it ; sad lor tbit, ■ Pretence ii ukea Iron loin a
our laic MuliDy-AA', which, 1 think, can adir.i: 'r
Mtanifig. I he Inn keeper, or Viiliitllef. mi:i'- '
fttJ.furniDi ihe Soldiers ijuariei'd upon him.ooc ooly «iii
Lodging, but ftlfo with Boaid, both accordtn]; lo tbc Ltkwg
odbc Soldier, Biul yet be U to have no more fi>r both thul
CirO'Ua Day In 'lime! ol Hlenty, the Soldier will t«nitlk
htuilcH', ' ctn, ptrhflpi, doit at :d. 3 Diy.bccii
'iiineitj! , he will oblige hn [jndlosd ta 6mdl
him, bccju<c M •'-ncot do it pethip« uader Sd a Oiy. W
tiii5 jail. Sir :■ U n rquit;!)to f li it pofltbic to fsfpofc ^M
»a A& of PjrliaQi- : i?lUb1ifli Uich Irapofttiaaf
■ 1 «lo not l:nai. .in I miKh regard. ivJnt Ojivr
no ite Lavryeri may bive givcD ; beeaale tbey (caoallf
^e ihcii Opinion iccotsluig u the Cate is ttiied ro thra i
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lAerefbre, when the Cafe is £»\My ftite^, their Opinions Annoi4«Gco
~fae wrong This leems to be the Cafe at prcrent. The It it40>
<^itiuu is, not, what an Jnn-keeper or Victualler maj de-
■nadfifbctloe&mrDifli the Soldier, quirter'd upon hint, with
PiOffifisDi ; for ir ii plain he cannot recover more than a
Grate a Dmjr i becanfe the Pay maAer can ilop no more of a
Srilier*! PdjF on that Account; and how the Vi^lualler cm
■ktrwife recover it, I believe, no Lawyer, or even a Con<
jmreui teil. The onljr Qjeflion tbeiefore ii, whether an
JMl-kcepcr or ViAiulIer be obliged to furnifli the Soidiera
yinaiLJ upon them with Proviiiont ; and thii, I think, ad-
■ica of ai little Doubt as the other. He ceruinly is not
flUiBBd to do fo, by any exprefs Words in the MuLiny-Bill
fifta UUl Year. By a Ciaufe in chat Bill, as well as many
tamer, the Inn-keeprr is obliged to receive the Soldiers
^uner'd apoB hltn : He malt let them into hit Houfe; He
~ not ftiat fail Doori againd them: But this is all he is
~ to do by that Law: Even his furniftitng them with
iafajr that Law left, as it ihould be, depending upon his
■QmuttSy t and hiiheno it has produced no Di!pu:e, nor have
ttvSoUicri been left onfccommodated.excep*. in a few very
WtHaotJinary Cafei, which can aftbrd no Foundation for any
^Iwiaiiua in the Law.
* Both cbe Inllancei th!it have been oicntiou'd^ are of
AiiKiad. The Difputeof Wakefield I am far f'um being
fc^riied at; I am farpriied. Sir, there were mn fuch Di(-
pKs Uft Winter all over the whole Kingdom. It was cruel
akcbtige Inn-keepers to furnilh Hay and Straw to the SoU
fim Horfe. at the Rate of 6d. per diem, when Hay and
Aoawborefucb monllfous Prices; my when their own
ttufe were perhaps dyihg for Want. The JuOices were in
thm right to allow 8d. Can it be fiid. that a 1'rooprr or
Dingoon coutd not afford Sd. for his Horfe at a Time when
iWre was fuch a Scarcity of all Sorts of Fodd'ir : Wiiy may
■M ■ Trooper or Dragoon live apon 4d. as well as a Foot
toUierr Suppofe he allow'd 8d. f^r liis Horfe, he had ^d.
»'J>ay for himfeTi and with that, or with the worle Fare
kiafelf. he fliould have been content; cIprciRlly as he
ibe Scarcity of Fodder could not be of a very long Con-
*'7'hc Aflair at Ledbury too, Sir, was a Cafe of a very ez-
'tnary Nature. The People there did not like atthat
to have any Soldiers among them, or at lenlt nnrfij
of them; becaufethey thought ibrmfelves o^pnflld,
ihiitthe Soldiers were fent there, to prevent their
tiwirown Way far freeing themielvet fr.im that O,-)
I do not lay it wax wrong to fend Sooiiers there
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Arii>OT4,Gcoor to fend fath a Number of them ; b^caufe vfbetbtr tlicPpo*
' ^^^''40 f^lc iverc ojipcfUcd or no, they had tikrni very MToa{ Me-
I Vi^lr^^ thod to ftec themlclves from that Opprcinon. Tbcir kti
chofcn a riutoiu and tumultuoui Way of doing it » aitd 1
Oentleman in (I r Neighbourhood, whohadsflcd ihr >
m bold aod worthy Magjflraic. had roi only been rni'i' : _ .;
the Mob. but ihas in dAngcr of being inurderM t>y tktm.
1 he People in that Neighbourhood hid behaved in ^ m'-i)
rio[OOt and obl^inate Manner upon that Occafion ; hu:
the Obninacy of the People in a paiitcuhr Corner. ;tnu ^f—.
a particat» Oecalion. i^ not to be pleKle^ u a Realoo IV
^prci{ing the whole Kingdom.
• 'i'hc few Dirpuirs chat have bappcn'd. Sir, ia fuch a loif
Coml'e of y<»r», between the Soidtcri and the People «b«t
they at£ quartet'd io a inuc)i llronger Reafon fui 1 iinriaian
the hiVf as it it. The Harmony between the Soldkis and tl*
People may hithcno be fiid to have been genrml : Saite
not let us depend. Sir, upon the Continiunce of (hit Uw*
tnony. if we Oiould brgin to keep up a gicaier tivmhutf
Troopi, or erco if we fliouM continue ro keep op the ftax
Number for many Ye:trs lo contc. The People MuAaL
wayi rutter many Hirdfhipv by the Quarteiing of SeW^rit
and ihefe Harufhip:f muit incrrave or diminifh in Proposiw
as WT incTCife or diminilh ourStanding-Anny. 'I'Im Pto
pie have for maDy Vcart cxpe^ed a DiminuiiDr of nar Ar*
mv, and confequenily a Diminution nl the Haniftiipsilay
niffer frcm theocc. They baveerery Vcar hopod tt mmU
be the la;t, snd that the ncvt Year will put an End tflwA
cf the Kardihips they fuScred on Account of nut Axwif,
Honevrr ftiarp fighred our MiniDert and Parltai]»cBt-Ua
bavr been, In feci:rtiig thofe Dingent which have aJI aloi|
been prrtcoded ai a Rrallia for keeping up fuch a nmuii«<
Standing Army, ihePeoplecouW perceive rwrveof ihfr- '^~
£ers, or tt leollthcy l.ppofcd, that luch tranecdous Vc.
Wbuld na« regularly prtfetit thrmfclvcs lo View cvrry mi*
cecding Wiaicr, and thit conjirmeil them in their aaari
Hopd that DCxt Scflion of Parhamrni wou'd redact ikt A^
my, and that our Regular Troopi *om\-\ at iJlt taoM mJIt
CO be what ibcy every Year arr Cup poled to be by ?uti
men.', nothing but Cuirdi and G»rifoD». whKb wo»4 '^
courrelrfe all thofe whodonoi live io the ^ulliculoftG•^
iifon, or the SudAudc of a Lourt, ftotn the Ui.;ci<a o( qll■^
ttrinccf SiJdien.
• hut. Sir, the People hare been fo long di&ppeh^rH ^
rhefe Hjipe^tiont, tiLit it is to be fearMJ, they will lov
de-'pera!r. They will dcfpir of ever teeinf ihcnEr >
lined £iotu (lie Ktrdlhlp;. tiiey groan qadcr, vUb irffcA n
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The Safpcion will become grncni, thicfoc^ a Anne 14. Gee.
Ataxy it ro; kept up co pro(C£tuj agiintl foicign ^^ I7V>
«r b«au(e it i» nccclTiiy lur the jud hnd» ol Go- V/YN^
hut Ixoafe It it ncceffiry for lupporimg and <n-
-tk or Qpprrfiive Me*furci of »a Adraoillrt-
■ . Cifii, every Coraerof the Kingdom will be-
ibury. The Soldien wiU bccooia cvcty where
Ibe People, and tfae People will became dcrpicabte
IfK* ol the Soidieis. There will then be no Courta-
iHartnAny between ihr Soldiers ard ihe Perrons upon
\ttej arc qiunercd. The btter will furnifh nothing
unwelcome Guelh. but what ihey are in the utmolt
of Liw obliged to furni&i i uid every Soldier will
the antioil Rtgotir whaKvcr he iliink^ himielf
Law, '1 nii will of courfe occaAon m^njr
,lhe People and the Soldiers, and itiAy at laA
lioa t which will proci.ibl^ end in a lotll
'ibc Array, or is tbc EiUbliibmcnt of a viUituy
rni.
Tonrequencc, J tsf. Sir, ii to beapprehenJeJcvai
irmy you hare dow on Foor. and from the Law*
[now in Force, wjth rrgud ta the Qturenng of
'tut it' bjr new L.jWs you invrea'e the Demandi of
rapoo his Cjuarteri. and ac the iame lime obli^
la opoo whom Kc ii Qd)rierc<i to anlwcr thole lie-
« AppriMCh ofihi* tiita] Coflici|uence will be ac-
; 1 fay, ijir, if by nny new Law you mcreale the
lof tte Soldier; For whaterrrGrntlenieTinviy rbinfe,
rr'i OemaDdi upon hii (^arieri wjji be ver>' much
by what i> now propoTed. At preient he doei not
^ *' ' '■■■■ I^nJIord n obliged toldrntlb htm w.th J>in
I : at the Kate ot a Groat a S>if, the Soldier
mil ujTOQ much better Provtlionf, and perhapi a grcatfr
too, than what be nrm' chearfujly accrpti of. The
i9et>cc rf this Wiii be, ihat a grot m*tiy of
and other Poblic Houfc) will give over
betake thcmrrlvei to fame iiher way of
[*b:i w U tniireare the Uanien upon thn.e tli*- con-
BuGocU. whicfi Milll fiKtn mske many ot ibcto
!£une Cnnrlr: lo thai at h& you msy not have, in
sen, : Number of Public Hotifei, fjr r»
It rauponiheir March i and uic Cot*
>, itMt iney iiuul either lie !» the Fields, or
prt'-atc Houict. The former they would
11 tbe l«tier ldri#>; to ihink«f, ant) thcrcfott {
itlaai'e proptrfcd '
Sty
AriR6 1 4. Cro
Sir Williim
Yons«.
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SirWniiim Vonje.
* Wben lopenrdthis Adirto yoo, and pve my Retdmu
for the Clauff, I took the Libcny to cfter. I told yoa. tW
the Cat'c had been UKly rendered doubtfut, by lomc Pooptii
Tt-fiifingto furnil^i the Si!»ldieri, quarlercJ upon them, Mi
Diet tnd Small Beer, or, todrrd, with any Thing etfie; aii
(fast upon ihii a Lawfuit was inictuJrd to becou)inrnc«;^,iB
«rder to have thU Queflian drierininfd. If thcic Lail farti
Xtiy nprels Words in the Law for obliging Inn-krrpen ai4
eihers 10 furnifli the SoTdt<r>, qjsrierrJ upoa tbera. with
pietand Small Ueer^ai the Raie of ■ Groit a Dax.nofaefc
•DoDbf could ever have arilen, no Man would have !
mad » tohive rrfi]f(d !!, when thccxpreli Wordt n( •
appeared agiinu him, nor would tnerc hav '
Qty to have troublcii you with a new Ctai:!:.
(um. But win <he Honourable GeBiIemnn liy, u-
Ihmg ii trertomprehentted within ihe Meanrflf •*■-
■tion cf * Law, tho" not declared in exprefi Wi-
the very Oie now belore us; The Qoilhon th;:
ij noc upon the rxprcl* Wordi, but upon the "
Inieniionof the Law; and if there wiicveran\
creittd or cDablilheH by Inference front the Mnniag tmi
Intenrion of a Liw, I think, there is, froin the Meaning t0
Inteationof thii Liw. a pbmObltg&tionUid upt^n Irtn-le<4|
tn and others, to turnilh the SoMiers «]uit[erod iip*n tloa,
with I convenieni Lodging, at leaf) with as commriilM
Ijo'tgTTtg ai they can aftbrd, iihI with neoefTtry PronkflA.
that i> to fiy, Diet and Smill-Bccr, lU fuch a Kate u fluU bs
sppointed by the Jaftirvf, notexrmDing a Gioata I^y. *
■ Thii.Sift is my Opinion, and in thii Opinio* Im
fipportcd, not only by the Optnioe of frrcnl eaiiner: ' :
"yers, hut alfo by u plain Inferences «« were ever i
World drawn from any I aw. Tint, I ihinV,, wtll ;--
rvidcnt. if we will bat (eitou[Iy confidcrthc two Cb'j r . <■
ibe lail Mutiny AA, which rcbie to this QurtllaD
ftrft ray<t, *• That So1dtfr«(]uantrrdiia(orrfo(H, 0>-
L-eircd by the Owners of Inns, and other I '
they are allowed lo be qturiered bjrthat A.
(uch reafonabic Pricei »i Dull he xppDinic.1 ho*tt
Tnne by the Jaflic«:'* And ihco by the Urn* CI*-.
Jufltcei are empowered and reqnired to tti and a;-'
lonable Hitvt tor all ncceflary Provifiasi far lurh ^-<
• Now. Sir. if the I^wdid not intend to oblige the Ino-kcap-
er lo huDiQ; the Soldien with MCxSuy Provifioet, (iarwkai
£ad waa tbe Jufiice obliged to interfere ? If Utc Un kcqKr
■ta
Da
( '55 )
10 riimQ) the Sokicr v/'iih ntetiLtry Provifioni, Anno i4,Gc
ccifaini/ 3gre«. aniefi the Soldier on hii Pxrl 1'- i''^-
y hon fuch Pncci at be infiUrd on; and^iftliey L/''^'^0
tagnbcr, what liad the Jullicc to do in rhe ASiir.
IbMoid the I^w ubiige him to inttrpofe f Nii^. his
Btion woald Tignily nothing : for if the Ion kteptt
» tftke leCi than ihe R»tc sppotnttd by the Jui1ic»,
aid en pnveot huinkmg kdi and, if the SotdJer
to jmy more, ihev could not prevent \hii piying it.
ftcm the Liw'i requiring the Juft'co lo inter-
« It ti cviJcat. th^i u mean: to oblige (be Inn-
rumifit the boUieri qitanered upon hrm with
'rovifioiH I beciu(e. oihcrWire, the gieatcA Part
would be mafi impertinent and ufelcft.
Claxtfe. Sir, which rcbies to ihis Quctlion.tl
■lendrd for I'ecuting the Inn-kcepcr'» Pay-
I mud observe, ihat one of the chief De-
Law. at ikfftun from the very Title, is to pro>
if for paying the Quarten of the Army : and
idc t By enifling, '* That the Paymafler,
ttie Suld'cr^Pay, ftiall give Notice to sll
^pCTf and othert to bring in their Arroiinrt ; andlhat
pt c^, ted immediately pay thofe Accounu, b§~
: of the Subfillancc br dtliributed lo the Sotdien >
Provifo, that I'uch Accounts ftiall not exceed ^i
ra Foot So'dier't Diet and Stnall-Becr. C^n
that a Ijiwch;rfiy inieitded fur fccufingihe Pjy-
Artny'j Qunrtcri, would have had fuch a Pr»>
d in^tnded, either that the Inr-keeprr a>oalil|
y to charge more, or uat the Juflicei fl)(Kitd
to appoint a higher Rntefor that Aiticie. 7 a
,1 thinlc, (uppofing the law niaicenio have been
ygrait Ahlurility. T ' ^i^'iry in. in mf
widtni, 'Ihry i\.. :cttd iheutmoA
U allow fr.t Tl'wt and S«ii!l Urer ; and they re-
dic Itin-ieerpcr and Ifilf'ce froiti exceeding tba<
'r*.« Inn kctfter thuH take cart to provide
and Soiall-Bfer (or - 1, ai may bcaffbfdcil
Ci and ibit the Soiuier mult be filjificd whilf
n psy for no better. '
ir, aitothe (jueition'i being withoot any DoubTi
ti the HonoorJble Gctitleman that fpoke hiftj
. Iw and 1 diSer very wsilrly to oar Opinion He
Kihc Nrg^tive Side of the C^ueRion that t« ccnata
any I>du1v, and 1 think, it ii the ARirmative.
t by a plain Inference Ifotr, tho* not by any ex*
^w4j m cte Liw. ihc iDB-kcfper i* certainly obli-
( >36 )
JlBflOti-Gec gfi' «o *urn (h ihcS'Uin (jusrletd upon h'm wi'h DwT r
11 1743- :>mjtl B-rr, at 3 ^ruat i lij/i and ;.e thinks lri<ii, nmhef
\y>^^'\J from ibe Word), nor 'ir MwHiny 0' ihc Liw. ihc Inii.kavp-
eTi.iT. hz r'jji^-rd 10 fLiinfli the So dier wi:o Diet mwlS-nilV
tecr, at clui ot iiiiy dtiu-r Prne, but itinc if lit duei .
hinii he cin rrcovci no n-.ore th m a Cn>ai b Dav.
D&l tberefurc Uy it it a Doubt, brc^ur thst Word iWmt M
QJF^nd, but it it A DiiTcrence in Opintun. :hjt iDitlici lAt
C'kuIc I hive oflcrol nrci ffiiy f and jis we li«ve now ibt
OpporiLniiy be!, rc us, 1 think we ought to dmrnitnc riMl
D-ffcrcnce, and prevent the Lxp^.ace ol 1 taw |uit, both II
tl.« Ful'lic and to th« piivaie Pviloni ibni may be cc — rr-
•d, A« wc arc DOW apprifcd of thii Diticrmcc iu Q,
about the Mes.iing of ibmc of rne Claofe* in ibc jomu
1 iitii.k, It wou,d be I Ncg!eft ui Duty in lu to rev-
Law, wiiticut determining that Difticrcncc i for. I «tn iiut*
we ought not, knowingl/< ^° make a Law tb*t tnuS crenc*
LaW'liui : iitid there is nothing more apt to occ^iion Dtffdi
snd even Bruili lietween the Suldiers and itic People dbh
whom they are quirccred, than their difieriog ia Op|UPl
about tbeir rcfpeitive Righti.
* I am Id well conviat:iKl,Sir, of the Inccnvcntermiiri
Datigertihat m»y cnlue from leaving itiis Dilkicnce in Op»-
BtOD fubfiU-ng. th»( i thouhi rather cbufc to have it cxptti^
declnrcd, that Inn-keepci) Quit no; be obliged i^ farttinite
Soldiers quditered upon ibcm with Diet and Small-Bceft
than to h'Vtf it reotaio in the Uncertainty it U at (ircfiMC
Sdl if I'ou fhould deteiffliae the Qoellion in thii Wajr, I an
periotded no Inn-keepcr. Vl^tualer, or other prtion. nr«a
whom Suldiertareulu.-Jly quartered, would funtifh lh<
ProvifioDs at the Racci wtitch tftey are able to pay. 1 <-
appointing a cettiun Rntc far ?rovifions would in ibu Cak
fignify nothing i brcaukc tf the Inn-kccper did cot like iha
Jtaie appointed by the Jullicrs. he would furnilh 00 Piv«>
fioM : rbc Soliiicr mull provide for himfrlfi aod tak
Bli^bt be rendered impoffible by a Combination aipoag tte
Tra(K<men and InhAbmntt of a Country Tdwb i wbkk
ComMn:itioD would, very probably, be entered tato mifl
Country Towni and even in Cities, that do not
fcave any SoldierB among them There ii, thereforr, 1
a NccefFiiy for obliging Tome Sort of Pruptc or ocbcr loiU-
aifh the Soidieri with nccefT^iy rruvihoni ; aad ooMCait
fo proper to be Uid under thii' ObligiiiMU Pcrftuifc tipOft
whom they tic qunrter'd.
I*beD. hir^ wiib regtrd (o what the Soldier ii M pay lor
Diet and SmaU-Beer, you may fettle it at what yoo Will, «r
B« iettle at ail U you pluic » bat 1 am very fiiic, a SokJatf
( ^37 )
■ Groil a Day for D'ltt »nd Small. S«r. Anno
.e MoDry ntiuilly piid lum by the G>
tftrvMut. nrvtr, at bat rtty leldiini, rvcedithnt Sum : A
cnaaw" So! JKr Int. inJec^, Six-pence a Day al^uw'ti irim )
ion made fur Claithing, foi Stockings,
utlirr Ifitidcnti, reduce hit ?4y to ^ery
re s Uro3( a Diy for hi* Subfiilancc. Thii. thert<:
iric :,jji.i:H he CAB gift lor Di<( and Sm^J Rrrr I
-t tany altvayi provnlr I'ors Angle Min,
.at acbm[MT Rvtt; than fuch iingle Man
w for hunfeif, I am convinced, there ii not. at pte-
In EngUtid, where a flutifr-kerper may nor
jer, lodgrd in hit Ho<i''r, with Di't tod Small-
tthin* Groat ■ Day. In Time* of Scirciiy, '(ii
ra4ybc difficult K^farnifh bin with Dtct aniiSinall>
r» St » Croat a Day ; liul, 4t Hich Time*, r) e Soldier
|i^ tftlce up with worfe J-'ari.*; and, zi they very ieldom
, nocubr ma'Jc a Foiir<Jaiion for any eluhhfli-
A Famine may, irdeetj, anlie irt the Laod i
k^j.cii) of ProTifions cfnll Kiniti may linpp«r>, Rtto
tmpofTtb r for n So'dirr lo tubfiil upon a Gr''>aia
.4Ry fuch Calamity (houid happen in (he Cnun-
j'd contitiK for nay Time, it would be alilclatr-
■ invcrnmeni, to make a trm^Kirary Ad-
|c I'ay i (ot it i»nw to b« cxp-ftrd. that
Wdd, *jth Arm* m their HanJ^ will all j* ihfm-
(larve. You mufl enable them [o par<-h:irc i Sjb*
if you do not. ihey will tike it by Force. You
ihem by Law J if yoa donot. ihiy will pro.
Iclret Bgainft LiW. If yuo oblige the Uwn.
t, where ^«»l^Jifr^ are qoa/ter'd, to lutnt&t ihciti
and SmaU Bcit it a GiOit a D^y, it may, in n
"v. in loioe P.acei, be* Lofs lo Uie Owner*
but that laii, t hope, will never be genc-
ai ir.y I'mg CoDtii^kiaicc, jn<J confcqueotiv can never
■t at tocumcwithia the Nocjce cf the l^aw, fur //
iQ )(n«t. Sir, (bat, if fuch a Surclty at thla were to be
If"!
Vi .i...^'"i':
.inci, and no /■
to enable ami ■
^C to itiC'f tj:).4Ior.
[WW
;>i Tircf rr.int' ffnur Pc'j'ic H<
Pay given ta
in to make an
nicl and Small.
■tci to give over
n',i wou'd djf-
■ per, Alchoulc-
, oi ■ * ttn aii Lulk (or h Week i.r
a Vl ' [i or two in feveo, by Uinj;
EO tiinuui tiie SoUieri qaajier'd upoit ihcm w it)
T i'^c
( 138 )
Ji«nof4,Gco Dretind SmalNBtrr. will never force him to£(Tt<
II l7♦^- Bufineli. even ihn' tmr Arm* were much marc ftai
^y'Y'X^ than It U : Bof will his bring (o obigfd, creaflon Mf'
BioiU between him and tK< Soltli«rs; beuu<r. Tthvy AoM
not icll Ijti fici with fttch F.irc at he m>y :.fr.>rd ibem lor •
Groats I^y* *nd fli.ulii on lint Arcoont be Dnci*ti, ukl
|fouWe(onic in iheU Quarters, be may h'^ve an enJy Betr«>5]r,
without aay Expence. by coroplamirg lo the coti>n<2 *«<))*§
Of&cer. who muli, in order to reeomitend himfelf lo iM
Govemnicnt, be alway* ready to hrai ItcU O'lnplam?- "•*
logive Rcdicfi. by puriifliing the Sold ier when he d<
it.
• From ihitConfideraticm it ». Krr, tbat if «ny Thittj'*-
hf Law. to be left toCoort<<y »«-d Civi ity, iiocgbr, I :V -'-
to be Irfi to ttie Courie y md CivilKy of the Saidicr :
|hk[i hit LA|)illo:ti : Occ me the for cner mar, hy itutttu i^».
be pur filed for Want of Coantfy or Civility, but I ktom
no Law cy wh>ch the latier can; afi'l, from £jKpcnc'
&n.t. ME hive leK Reafon iu accufe Soldxn ot W»m '
lit)', than we have to arcule iheir Land'nrdi ; '
be owing lo this very Rcolon. that the OScrn ar-
band, ard have a Pawcr to pimifi) SoTdiei- fur my tuJ< fifr
- haviour in their Qiiaricrs, wl.ems, the Perloni otMjm «h-in
Ihey are quif ler'd, »re liable to ro f«ch Ch«k . I n t '
iiiir at V^;ikc6e'd, if tt htd not been for a ni»1 (Cti
2nd piudent Interpr'&iioiiof (hceunm 'ending O/flOCr. ■ nnA
dargrroui Tuwult might have eniotd i for the Towr'c-CB
bad cx-()-cratcd the S'j'dicn to Inch i Pegtce. thai
wtih the oiiDofl DifBculty the commanding Offirrr pic
thrtr coining to Biewti and if he had not had -<
deal r>l t'rudence. ai W'cll as greai.'iutliority, over l^>
flier hit Commnnd, he cou'd not have relfmne'l thC:7
n vrrging thrmirivev upon fome ol thole f'eiloni ll.^i ■«.
uoiuiem fo )U. I (hail, therefore, never be efr^d of fM-
I. t it n the Power of Soldierato deniSnJ f om ■" ' '
Kxila what t» ntKiff'ty for iheir Sobfiiianee, ui )u'
thf canafflfd t>> p->y : ^ui 1 am otrcmcly a'ni
it ra (he Power cl thcfe Perfoni. upon wboti^ '^
qDirterV, to m-ke it titipofiible fcr inem to lutiLlI . nLik,a
ftOt. 1 thi'k. be the Cate, f ycu do not agree to U^mt tack
KiguUlton ai I b^ye piopof^,
• rne Hononrabl'' Gcfitlein^n fays, (he Ca-'c« ttntj
been meniicned are of an emraonltnary Nature, ii
not. thercfuie. Ii> be niadoa Poundat!.->0 irr q''r:ip [|
Eif. the Cile of W^keEeld, &nd the ( -otxinr,
ftot the only (wo L'afei tfut might be r -In
otbcr Piftcet, u wcU u there, the locKieepert. and Atfr-
boqto>l
( "39 )
tntfe krcpers have refufed to fdrnlOi the Soldiers with Diet Anno 14, Cea.
wd SmiU-Beer, or with Fire, and the titrceflary Utenfils (or ^'- >740.
dic^^'cbctr own Pruvilioni; and now the Qiitftion is V-/''"Y'N,/
l«ncJ> I nuJceDjOoubc, but th-t, in a (bort Time, ttie Soldi-
en Will meet with the fame Rcfdlal in every Corner of tht
ckicc Kiogdoms. tt wsk never q>ieitioned, till very lately,
hm due an Inn- Keener or V'idur.l.er wa^ obliged to fiirnifli
ifeiSoUiers quartered upon him with Diet aiiu ioiaii Beer,
K &ieb Rates as the JuHices ihould appcinc. not exceeding a
Grou m Day ; but of tate they have been by I'-mc Lawyers
■dviicd, that they are not obliged by Liw to do lo i and
theie'ore we may expeft. .hai, from henceforth, none of
ibem Will lurnifh the Soldiers quartered on them with Diet
or Small-Beer, or with Firing, S-iJt, or any Kiichen-Ucenfils
for drcfling the Provisions tiiey buy for thtmlcives, which,
n my Opinion, will mnke it impolUble lor the Soldiers to
liibfift* cfpeciaUy when they are upon a March fr m one Part
of tbcKfogJom to ;>naiher; and the nccelTiry Co:ifeque.-ice
of chu will, I thinks be a Mutiny in the Aimy: wa.ch 1
dread miicn more than any Danger that can arife from oblig-
!■£ iBB-Kcepcr» and othcr», to run.ilh the Soldiers qturteral
■poo them with Diet and Small Beer, at luch rea'onitble
Raiu u the Juiiice* ftull appoint. Dot exceeding a Croat a
Diy.
• I (hall admit, Sir, that k is a ]it:7e unequal, and will be a
hn of HarJIhrp upon the Oa-ncrs of Public-Houfes, to o-
WfC them to lurnilh Soicieru witii Diet und SmaJ-Beer it
a Groat « D-ty, when Provilions arudc^ir; and yet to 'eave
it ia [he Power of the Sjidicr to furnifh himfcif, or in the
Power of the Jullices to Riai^e the Owners of (ucti Ijoufes
nke Ids, when Pruvuions are cheap ; ikh, 1 lay, I (hall
admit to be a Harcihip, becaufe in Time of Pier.ty the
Owner* of fuch lljulirs ctn hvc no Opportunity to repair
the Lofs they fuff;:red in Times of Scdrciiy. Eur, bi.-, 1. in
a HardOlip ariiing (roni public Neceflicy, and miid iheiefoie
be lubmtitcd to. U tioi the Quartering of Soldiers a liiiriiU
Ihip ai well as thit ? And yet no Scrjplc l.as ever bten
Bade to fubjeA the Owners of Public [Icule^ peculiarjy [o
this HardQiip. It ii a Jela Hardlhip upon tl-.«:in, than it
woold be upon any o:hcr Part of the Peuple: and a^ their
Bufinef) IS more p:of:::;b:c and esfy, tiian moi). other forti
of Employments, Mhich People of an infeLiur Degivc ulii-
aUv betake themielves to, ii.c P.irli.>m(;nt wir.:iy, aiid, 1
Ihmk, jullly too, relolved, tht they ^ione (h>>u!d wear this
Bordeo, as often as pubiic NccctTity Ihuuld reauire. Tne
locqualiiy, therefore, uf this Biiidcn or Tax. 1:' yon pleale
10 call it lb, is cot to bccompUincd of, ai.i :f ^i:c <^^.i.--
T 2 rcrjyy
( 140 )
Anno 14, Geo tering of Soldiers were made a Handle of for oj^rcffii
II. 1740. City, Borough, or Corporation in the KiDgdom, cfp
O^'Y^^ for the lake of influencing Eleftions, I make no Doa
that we Ihouid foon hear a Complaint of it in thii 1
and upon that Complaint 1 as little doubt, that the A
of fuch OpptcflioD would meet with condign Punifhnt
■ Thus, Sir, as I fee no Daogers that can accme fn
Claafe I have offered ; as I apprehend many Incoaveo
tod even Dangers too, from the Law's being left 1
I mufl Hill hope to fee what I have taken the Ufa
tSevt or fome Claufe to the fame EffcA, made a Part
Bill now under your ConiJderatioD,'
Mr. Harley.
Si a.
Mr Harley. ' '*''* Obfcurity and Uncertainty of the Law now
our ConfiJcration, proceeds from a very natural C
Caufe which renders all Laws obfcure, that are intea
the Promoters to encroach upon the Rights. Libcrti<
Privileges of the People. By the Laws of Englan
fince we had fuch a Thing as an eftablilhed Conftiti
Man*s Houfe is reckoned his Callle ; do Stranger, 1
Officer is to enter into it without his Confent, unleA
committed, or is fufpe^lcd 10 have committed fome
This was the Privilege which every Engliihoian ai
enjoyed j but Taxes and Branding- Armies have n
prived molt of the Subjefis of England of this t
Privilege ; and in all the Laws that have been made
Purpolc, we may obferve an Obfcurity, which by ]
only h)S been cleared up. At tirll the Promoters ai
trivcrs were cautious, lelt the Friends of Liberty fhof
ceive the Extent of their iTefign, and in the Bills tk
poled, they fxprelTed themfelves obfcurely, that afte
in the Execution, they might by Interpretation ext
Efficacy of the Law : This raifed Doubts and Difpu
thel'e h:ive generally been cleared up by new or mor4
five Encroachmeoti upon the Liberties of the People.
' Thefe gradual Encroach men ts, Sir, are, in do Caf^
appirent thoo in wh:it relates to the Laws now ttn
Confiderarion. When this Projcft of quartering
upon Public Houfes without the Confent of the Own
f.^lt thought of, it would have founded Very haril
t^rsof ail Englifhman, to have feen a Claufe infei
compelling the Owners, even of fuch Houfts, to
luch Ciuelif, wlirtlier they would or no. The Pi
*.%rre therefore obligtd to content ihemfelves with 1
•o>- giving Libcrtjr, not a Power, to Ccnflables ai
Ma
( 141 )
^Intcs to qainer Soldiers upon fucb Houfes, and iktj Anno 14, Geo.
Acy deiired thit Libeny only for Soldiers upon a March, H- 1740
. far the firft Night of their Arrival in the Piaces ap- k/YN«V
Mdfurthtiir RtfitleDCC. They were forced to fuppofe,
K ^ Owners of I'uch Houfes would willingly receive
rfcSoUieri as were quartered upon them by the Civil Ma-
faati but this SuppofuioD they took care not to have
fdtd in the Law, it would then have plainly appeared,
t there was only a Liberty, which was ail they then
mud to aflc, granted to the Civil Magiitratc, to quarter or
DnSoldiers upon Public-Houfe:, but that he had no Powor
CDBpel fach Houfes to receive them. This was to be left
CiiAon), becaufe they knew, that few private Men would
Kudifpoic the Power of their Magillrates; and if any
:h Difputes fliould arile, the Froje£lor» trulled to their be ■
[ible to get it explained in their Favour, by Ibme new
iufc. Accordingly, Sir, when the Difpute or Quetlion
II Sartdl, whether the Owner of a Public-Houfe was 0-
pd to receive the Soldiers quartered upon him by the
nIMagillrate, iheylt lalt got ihatClaufe inferted, which
ifaeellood in all Mutiny- BilU, whereby it is enaAni,
Tkac the Owners of fi-ch Houles fball receive the Soldiers
^inered upon them."
' Thu, Sir, that which was at firfl defired as a Liberty
If, laifince been converted into a Power; and that Li-
Rf or Power which whs at iirA defired to be temporary
^, ibit is to fay, to quarrer Soldier? /"or one or mare Nigbtj
Adr wuiTtbing, »ni fw tbt firfi Night qkIj in Places ap-
whd f.r thtir Rtjidtnct^ has been iince made perpetual, by
■ly fnull and imperceptible Alteration in the Words of
I CUoCe. When this Liberty or Power of quartering Sol-
nt^oa PubliC'Houfei, without the Confent nf the Own-
,«u firft adced, the Parliament nould have been amazol
k-fald beCD cxprefsly alked, ih.-iE Soldiers Ihculd always be
ofiry lamacei in Public-Houfcs, that thcyfhou'd always
nca Lodging at free Colt, even in the Places appointed tor
iir Refideoce: Such a Prcpolal the Parliament would
« ccrtaisly have rrjcded with DifJain. This the Pro-
Shi were Kofible of, and therefore they nlked, only Icr
■ <r norc Nights upon a March, and for the firlt Night
^ tfier their Arrival at the Place appointed for their Kcfi-
■II bat uthey had the drawing upof the BiU.^nd were
Eiicd, if poflible, to extend it ^rther than was then de-
1^ ibcy took care that this RellriAion ftiould not be in-
■i ta exprcft Words, or in the proper Place, but brought
■■ ii were by Head aod SnouJders, at the End of that
Claulir
( Hi )
^nno 14, CeoOanfe wbich nqaires the jHltices to appoiot Rites for Proi
U. I74'>- vifioM.
Sy^^^"''^ * By this means, Sir, our Sunding-Army-ProjcAors it
firll obcaiDcd t Liberty to quarter Soldiers, by the Inwrpo-
fitioD of the CivH VfagJllraie, upon Pubtic-Houfes. lor ooc
or more Nights upon their Marcn, and for the firft N>^
only in Places appointed for their RcfiJencei and & FouMi>
tiot) for a temporary Lodging at tree Colli beine ibui lai^
when the Muiiny-AA was revived in the firft Year of iki
laie Queen Anne, our Army^Projcflors took care (o Ityt^
bctcer Foundation for rendering this temporary Privilcgl ;
perpetual, by requiring Juliice to appoint luch reafoDafak ,
Rates for all necellary Provifionsfor fuch OS.ert and !tol- j
diers, for ooe or mora N ghts in their marching thro' their
Ckiei, Towns, and Vill:iges, as fiall Itt appmnitd Jkr tbm
RtjidtiKt or Qjiorttrt. In thib form this CJiufe \an;ioue4
for feveral Years; but at lall it began to be conceived ■
thefe Words, ■• And the JuiUces of the Peace aforeLiid ait
hereby empowered and required to letnnd appoint fucb m>
■Ibnablc Kites for all necellary Provifions, for one or laan
Nights, in the feveral Places which Soldiers {hiill coine H
in their M>irch, ur •ailkh fi>{iU bt appointed for tb*ir R^
Jen(t and ^tarUrji" in whicb Words, or Wordk to (Ml
EfTeft, the Ciauic hud Hood ever ftoce. This, as appean* ■
but a very fmall Variation from [he Claufc as it llooil'ai %Ali
and, t am perfuaded, it wus imperceptibly inirodaced, tbi
is to fay, without being uken Notice of by ihofe wboimc
the true and finccre Friends of the People, and of the Li*
betties of their Country. The Misfortune is, that thafc
who are for keeping up Snnding- Armies, have gcnciallf'
the drawing up cf fuch Bills ; and this ro^kes it eafy lal
them to intioduce, imperceptibly, very material and daa|^
Tous V'ariations, when they are not moll UriAly looM
after.
• But this. Sir, is not the only Misfortune : They halt
not only the drawing up of the Bills, but they have the E^
cution of them after they are palTcd into Laws ; and in lla
£]cccution they put that Interpreution upon them that bit
fuics their own Purpofe*, in which they are encourigedtf
a Backwardnefs, tuo cumniun among private Men, iuCai>
tenJ wifli the Governn.ent about the Interpretation oFt
Law, which probiibly was made obfcure. 00 purpole too^
ble choie cntruiltd with the executive Power to carry it itfr
ther tiiai) was ever dreamed of, or would bave beea^
proved of by a Majority of thofe entrullcd with tbc*Ll
fl.uivc. Thas, tho* our Army- Gentlemen bad for (evu
\cars no Pawer, and for many Years 00 cxprcfi Po«cr, n I
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ilj'rcrt ill the PImch appointed for flirir Refidtnce. *','**' U.O«lfc
For ihr AtA N>jbt only «(ter (heir Arnval there, y^t **_"^
^odocett the Luftota of quaricrir.g Soltfien even in
r— —n\Kt^ far ihfftr Rtfiacncf. and dnring (he
their Rcfid«nc«] fd ttiat the Qinrtering of
I, in,.c»'J of bring a tempor>ry, became i perpcioa!
ItfpoB the fubliC-Hoofct in VV'iflminfler, ind many
"ingaom. And thii Oiftf>m being ot>ce
; H g'n a foTf iT legal ^Authofity for it,
. ifcncd intbeMutiBjf Bill, fwiHi'^) ihe 7tli
wjhcrcDV It wj» en-'Qed, •' j'har the
lici 10 -' elunirilicr and P'^Ccf adjiiccnt, AiojM b'tlct
I of !*>«• Foot Ouards in KiCh Houle> only a* by ihc
. in ind about the Oty of Weflmini'er, cjj.
f I^rdon. But ttiti of qujtrenbg Siitdien
■ !rd f»i. and dutitig rhe whole Time of
deetni d lo be <uc)t a (Jricimnce, that in
I Vea/of ine late King, and by the firA Mutiny Bill
in hii Kogn. A L'Isufc wa» rnfcned, by whicli ii was
; nwhirg in iliai flS Diould extend to ccm-
..t .-g v( 'ny Fof<- 5:)'dieri if* firgland, ualeU
Mt.ty of lilt Mnjrij'a U'Ual Rcfidence, or the
brilhould i}e preient, or in (otne G'irrifoa where
ncbi we^enoi provided, or upon their Marchci;
r«ch Mniclict no Perlons Oiould be obliged to
1 »bovr jfr Dittf It a Time,"
tKc : ■ '' "r wjveMii ihii .Affair to yoo, Sir, be-
fcca I fair ; ' XI is over, which, i fear, »!![ not
ivc j,:ir uc II with mure Vigour ihan we ha»C
. rr put an £nd to it by an ingloficai Peace;
ki,*iiei; '-.t War i» over, I hope we fliillera-
fwOpfp' eturning, itneaT as polHble, to Cur
I r tn4y think it necrffiry to Jccrp
(= ■'.',_^ 11 Tiineof Pcicc ; but Icao fee no
< lu( a Mutiny Bill, unleli when ive nre
la War. V/e kept up I'ooie regiiUr
li(h« peunblePattorKiog willijin*i Reign,
'rODpi, ft) far as { could evtr hear, were kept in
gb Order wtthont any Miriny-Rilli Tor firom the
Af.rP if.c\%, to ihe zo'.h of Febujrjr 1701, when Z
\ Sp^in brg^i) to be thought uniroid*
-,... ,\>l 1,1. .ling tnthi* Kingdom ; and
-cfa Law fubiifting, e«cpt
. iJ<L> julc I iJo not like to make
■ Peire. to whom wt are to trail out
wir uc]:ti<;c la Tiiae of War.
• I{irin£
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Anffa i4»Q<o « Hivini; iliai given yoj wy Scautr.tru xhtot i ■
11 174U- for whicli Soldiers m»Y or ouj^hc 10 be qturtcrcil, i
l/*V^O come to the very Point now in Queflion, I fhiU brg Le«««
to expliin a little farther, how, ind by what Degrees tM
Owncfi of Public-Hoiires were compelled to receive the SjJ-
dicn quartered upon tbcm b^ (he Civil Mfigillruc. I ri>i
Hxt2.dj rakcn Notice, that nhra the Qmricnog of ~
u|)on (uch ilo\i{e» wu iirft aVd Tor, i: wsi aSt'^ l^. —
liberty onl/, not a> « Power. The C-onlLiulci aad Ui<
gtftratci were not empowered aod rrtjuired, it ii Otid ea'f,
that ibey any quarter and billet OiHccrs and SolJicr* ujto
lans and other Public-Houfes: N«)r, the ConOabln and
MagiQrstes might have rtfoTcd To to do : There wa> no Lav
for panilhin^ chem for fueh Rc/ufil, till the lirft ','.
hia late M. j:Jly*s Reign, when a new Cbufe wai infr
that Purpoie. And as (o the Owners of Pub!tc>tiouv>,
thejf were for many years left entirely ai Liberty, wbetfar
they Oiould receive the SoMlcr* fo quartered apoo thcsi
far I know of no [<awthat To much aslermcd to oblige thns
10 do fo. [jll the tench of the late Queen Annt. and t
compulfatory Cliufe wai introduced bnc in apattij,
nrrj for in that Lawa new Chufc waf introJucrJ. b« wL^k
it was enjScd, ** Thstitapy Perfon (Itould be aggrjerr^hf
1 CJonlUblc's bttirting in hit Houfe a grca er Nuf '
Soltlicrt than be ought to bear tn PrDpc'riton to hn .'
bour;, upon CompUini 10* Juftlce of Peace, that fultier w
to relieire him. by ordering to m»ny of th< SoMicri to t« r>-
jnovcii snd quartfred upon (ome other Perfoni, who lliali bt
obliged to receive tbeir accordingly."
• This, I fay.Sir, iithefirii Claiife lean find, in any of ow
Mu(iny-A<h, th«t feente to oblige Owuen of Poblit ' 1 -i'
to receive any Soldier fo qoarrer'd vpoo tbcm i .
Foanilaiioa being once laW, a Pretence h.-- '
been taken, to inferi fome new and geatral
Mutiny -Billi of late Vean, by which it it ■
(he Ofiicert and Soldirrt fo qnartrrrd and
faid. fi»U be rerrwcd by the Owner* ul the ir>
PoWic-Hoaiirt (■■ and it i» remirltable, that n
which make (a great as Aticraiion in our l^w, i
fntmed intpa Claufe by ihrrpfelvci, but were, ai I i:
fotn into the Begloring of tint C'.'ulc. *h«ch c
•' I'hat the SoiJicti iiiaU puy teaJoKib-e Pri''r< lor tbe
\iiioBj futrilhcd them liy the Owoen of U»» Hooie.'.
thry »re quirwied.''
• You may now iee. Sir»by what i!o», -
wb>t impixepnbtr Degreri rar ^iu(iny-A-
prcfiuit ^l]lturtt)' and PeilciUon ; aod row I nod &;
i
( U5)
Sg Twicti feemstDbcdefigned, FiflifliingI may call ii, Annoij.CoiS
^,1na double Scnfc ; it will oc tr.e finifhiog loLcii fo :liis '' '■^*°'
|!tl, iinid 1 am afraid, tiie ftniOiing fi.ow [o the Liberlici of w^~V~SJ
ir Cotiiitty, Oar Soldiers, which 1 am iotry far, and
^bicD wr m»j comr heartily to trp^iti of. iTwc ibould ever
|Ve Occihon for their Courage; our Sotdxrl, I Uy, have
tag bcCfi m^tdc Stivei by ibis Bill ; »nd now, (he Owners
faU ihc PablMr.Houks la the Jung^loni Arc to be tnide the
ITC3 of mole Stkvct: For ilii* will bcibe Calc, if we
ilj bv Any expreft Law (tbiige the Owners of lach Hourci
f^rniOi the Soidien q<uttci«d upun tiieni, With pietand
iU-B«f. whether tlicy wiH, nay %vheihcttbev can. or no.
* Sir. It 11, 10 my Opinion, of very liulc Sign:fi:;Ation to
preficni Qucllioo, whether this w^tor wjs not the Mean'
_ vf a'; or any of the Mutiny B.llt we h^ve palled into
't*vn, 1 an very fure, I never thought it wai^ »nd if it
Jfere detetmined lo b« fu. by cue D«ciecofany Court of Ju-
ncaiure iu Englaod, 1 ^lojld be for our t-ikii:^ the Art! Op-
>riunity to alter the Liw in ihii rcfpe£t Sue when we
itk oftht: Meaning and Inic<itioii uf luch L^\m, wc uugbt
dillinguiOi bet^^cen the Mir.'ntng and Intenuan vf (bolie
bat were ibechief Promotcfsof them, and the MrAningand
ttcntion cf thofe who only gave titcir Confent to the ptf-
ig of them. As to the former. I muke no Qyellitio, but it
u ihrir Meaning and Intention to oblige the Owners of
ibliC'Houlci to fiirniOithc Soldien with ail necftlary Pro-
■(ioaif thi' they dtirll no; declare their lotcmions in cxprcls
^ords, became ti would ciiher have thiowii ou: their Bill,
have otcafioocd the inlening of fume ejcprel's Wordt
^>in(t wh.it chey intended : 1 hey the;cfv:e chofe to driw
Ip their Biil in a dubious Sort uf Expreffion, that after they
got it pfTrd ioiQ a Law, ihey mig-it make the molt cf
in tbe Rieculion i and, indeed, chey made fo good an Ufe
tbeir f't^wcr in the KxctutioD, that the Okvne.'i of moil
Public.Houlei did >gree to wtut tbcy dcfired.
' Btn in ibia. Sir, tbey were «l fidt very much &voured
the CircuuiIl.iDCe of the f tmei i beciule the Nation be-
i; at thil Time engaged in a^hoavy and expcnfivc War
'iR France, the Uevolution in ici Infmcy, end our pub-
^redii far fioin being lo well cAdbl>(hed ai it hai beca
sec; out Govrinrnmi waicfteii very fhuiiof Money, an4
Ery diUtory in their Faytncnts to i.f-* Aimy, cfprcially lo
lofe Regimemi thAt icmAincd within the Kingdom, who
Verc fgoictimti lor iTcreral Moatlu togtihcr WKhuui re-
iivliig any Pay; «nd when our Soldiers had no Money lo
^ur<hdfe Proviilum iur thcmlelves. it bcuine oectfTiiry to
kvc them provxicd ibr by tlioTc upon whom iiie> »cte quat-
11. i7*r
tfreJ It Wft?. thtrerort. the Public Nectfitty tint aait
the Owners of Publtc-Houfn fabmit la the famiOiing ihe
Soldier* with Din and SmaH-B«r, and not iny C ■' f
ncfa of their being obliged by Ltwtodofo; ■'
fame Rcafoo, the Parliament, at ihat Time, cwnivr.. .1
]nrer|^reation put upon the Mntiny-Afi by thofe that
been the Promoter* of it : Nay, in the Year 1696-7, 1
Parliament agreed 10 a Ciaufe, which rc?m'd to confirm 1
iTiicipmation : for it wji then enafird. ■* TUat r>o li
holder or other Perfon (hou'tl, doring tbc Continuance rf
that Aft, be oblig'd to provide Meil or other V'lOualj
any i^Idieri. legally quartered on ihtm. orcept in ta
M*rth only, ifihey fhoald give or tender to each Horfem
6d. per Uitm, for hi* Subfillcnce in Meat only, and to ewr
Dngopn and Foot Soldier 4d. per Dtcm for the fttne,
Ticet Cindle and the Ufc of hii Fire for drtiEog bU Meat
•nd by anoihcr Claufe in the fame Ad it Mr^i pravii
•• That Inn holder) ard oiherifhoyld furnifb for every Sof-
dier. UwruMy <joariered upon ihem, f.odging. 5m»II-Bw,
'»t)d Candle, with the Ufe of Fire todrcfi hii Meat by, iti
Hay and Straw 10 a light Horfrman, and ;d. per Diriii t>
I Dragooa. But one may esfily fee, that thefe Cmfei f
ccetfed from the Ncceffuics the Public w»» that Year
ccd (o, by Reafon of the clipp'd Monty hiving been cal!
in to l>e rtcoined buc the Year before, and by Hr^ifon oft
vaft F.xprnre this Nation wit at in fupponing the W
which I>k! them under a NcccSity cf piying 8 per Ol,
for Money borrowed in that Year 1 am] this obliged the ~
Itamcnt to content to this hirOi and uneqoal Method ofpr^
vidirg for the immrdiate Sjbfillcncc of the 7'roops.
* 1 am, tlierelbre, very well convinced, Sir, that k
ftcvet the Inieniion of the Majority in Parliament, to
jri\ the Owneri of Public Hoolei to the unwjual and h
Burden of being obliged to fumiOi the Soldierf, q^
upon ilicm, with Diet aod Small-Hrt^, at a Groat, or
other Rate, per Dtrm 1 and, 1 believe, no Lawyer will Gr^
lh«t I Man cftn be (nbjefled to n Penalty, or Obljgitiofl, by
Inference from any Words In 1 Law that can udmit of iMk-
thcr InterpretJition. But whether or no the Mijoriiy of
Parltamcm have been drawn in to do what they Jid ace it-
tend, -li I am nn Ijiwyer, I (f«]I not pretrad to ifcicnsiK.
I mnfl be, at jrart, dffobtful in my Opinion; and I hart a
«ry good Authority for being to { for in the Aff4ir at Lf4.
bory. a very grnt Uwyrr, and one of the Jodg«s upon cW
AIIrx«« then holding there, I mean Judge Lomyos, w»» aftrd
ht» OjMoion opon thu rery Qucllion, and be drdnrtd haa-
Icf to be doubtful.
11 '740-
r H7 )
I* The ArgumcDt, Sir, which hat been iJraWn from the Annoi<«,Cko
■J Jiillitrsio fettle idc Price of I'foviiioni, ji
vtcci fur I do DOC tliink the Jultico lud
Icu.c ^ny Power lo ptdcnbe how mucli a. SolJicr
l,ot to order iliac hiE l^xudlord Chould (\ttn\fh him
mack u be coaM at for & Groit. or at any leiT^r
Diem : They were only to appoiot and iiit-xitiin
■ of all iiccefr4ry PruviGotii, fuch at Srcai^S.aa!l'
tcf, Kiuttor, Batter, Chccic, aiiJ tlic like, accofd.
'TOtlK' 'litei, ti ihit Time, aod in tbic Place i
Xhit A; . ' t of tbeiri, ncidicr wai, nor could be
to Uhc i'Uce, but in Catcs whcte Itie Suidtcr mi
llordrohild noc cgiec between themfetvci. 'I'acic tn-
ioa HOideGgnd only, artd cou'd be ddi^nM for no-
llua 10 prevent Dilputet between Sul^iicn and tbe
rtooi upon wlium they were i^uaricT'd, And, furely, i(
iitti hAve been a very bme PruviGon for paying, duly and
Vy, ihe Quaiten of [he Army, if the Law hid obliged an
tpcr 10 fwrnidi every Solilier will) a» much as he
. aad of what Sort of Proviftonk he plealed to infift
allowiog hid) any more clua a Croat a D»y,
Ut t>ie JufcA Times, and lor the bell Sort ul Ptovi-
^To tdl 01, Sir. that the Inn-Keeper will alwayi meet
ifruiii tiic commanding Officer, in cafe iSo'dier
too much, or too deliuic l-afc. bccauCe tbe Offi-
thereby rccommeud himrell to the Guvetnment, i«
log very ttrange. bccauCe it may, in ir.any C^fct. be
utbrfwilc: A Regiment or two may be fcnt to cot<
unruty County, Liiy, or [jorougb : A priva:c Hint
thecoramMidingOrti-'er. that tliiiii the Dc-
him there, jnd thu Oefigo may be commu-
jUlieri. Mult we not, in this C^fc, {uppvCe
'■ will make ine molt rigoroui Ufe of every
^gtt £-an>r>l them by Ltw ? Can we (uppofe. that the cotn-
ling Omccr wili be rradv to hear or redrew the Com-
>of tbe IdliJ&itarm* It' he it, I am fure. we cannot
be K^tll (tiereby recommend himfelf to the Govern*
:iQCh a C3>'e at thii. Sit, may certainly happen ; and
Sttt tu fuppi>lie, ib:ii BO foch Cafe ever did bappcii*
icJe ita (jch CumpUmt had' ever been tiroughc lo P<ir-
it. It i> ienpollible. Sir. to prove the Paft upon wl.ieh
A CMbpUitit mull be gruuuded. I'hc true Caufc of
liB( a Kcgimeni to quarter upon a Botougb, may be luf-
i it m«y be ujinwll certainly gueHed at; bat Mini,
h^refo many Rcafoii or Pretences to alledgc f«i Tend-
one Df more Regiments to any P.Ltt of ' tbe Kingdom
V 2
tUit
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Anno li, Geo that it is impoITible to prove, they had no other Reafonbut
II. I740 that of the Borough's having fent two dilsgrceabie Facet to
this AlTembly.
* But fuppofe, Sir, thftt no fuch Cafe could ever happen i
and ftippofe that the OiBccTi of the Army (houtd always be
rc3,dy to hear and redrrfs every jull Complaint againft ihe
Soldiers, or any Soldier„under their Command ; iho' I have
a very good Opinion of thcJulUce. Honour, and Impartta-
Jity of the prefent Officers of our Army, yet, I fliall never
agree to a Regulation that renders any Part of the People
liable to be opptcffed by the Soldiers, without any Relief
but from the commanding Officer. I do not think, that the
eftablifhing of this Regulation cin be prefumcd to h»n
been the Jniention of any Parliament of Great Britain, nn-
lefs we, at the fame time, fuppole that the Majority of
the Parliament confiAed of Officers of the Army, which ii
not tobefuppofed of any Britilh Parliament hitherto; tho'
I do not know what may be the Cafe hereiifier, if a Bill fe-
vera! times propofed without Succefs, fhoula never rone
with a better Fate than it has done. If this, indeed, (hould
happen, we may expcft to fee fuch a Clnufe as this approved
of. ai d another Claufe,' which is the only one I can at pn-
fent ihink of, that is wanting to make this Bill a complete
Syttem of Slavery ; I mean a Claufe for fubjcAing Pubtic-
Hcufes to fevcre Penalties, if they do not furnifti the Soldi-
ers quartered upon them, with convenient Lodging and all
fieceiTary Provtfions.
* Such a Claufe as chii. I fay. Sir, feems to be wanting;
:ir,d if we agree to the Claufe now ojlercd, Ifliallexpeclio
fee fuch a one as thie offered in the very next Srffion cf
Parliament: for your obliging Inn-Keeper» to receive Sol-
diers, andiofurnifli them with Diet and Small Beer, willaot
fgnify much, unlefs you fuhjcA them to Penalties, oreiv-
power thr Soldiers lo make Dilltels and Sale of their Good;,
if they do not.
* 1 mention this, Sir, to fhew you what this fuperlative
Care ot the Army mufi, at tall, drive you to: But what
inuH be the Confequence Mn a little Time you will have
no Inns, Alehoulei.or other Public-houfes in the Kingdom!
It leall, nut near fufficierit for quartering your Army t at.d
[hen you muit quarter your Soldit-rs upon private Houfc!, or
build Barracks icr them. 7'he latter, 1 confefs, I ftiould
rather fu^mit to, tho' I think the certain Confequence of it
would, St Ir>>K beamilitary Government; becaute it wou'd.
in a fncr; Time, render our Army a fort of difticA People.
't^'bili: ojr S-jIdicrs are quartered in :he Public -Itoufes up and
dQw;i the Couotry, it prelerves a Corrcfpondcuce, ud aa
Intimacy
II.
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twttn cfc«n and ihc People: TTicy often con- Anno
[bJp* cogrUrtr, which pr<rcrves in liie Army
ier 1^e People, and makrs i^tm look upon
no noihiojr more t'<jn Fcllow-Subjc^j ; but. if
lU ODCC come to be lodged in B^traclti, feparate
-*' *-- -haiticlvtj, tliey ww'd foon begin to loolc
1 a» fo.'e Malien : They woyld rlirn break
jcncc with, nixi lofc all Rrgari for tbe
iTd br t)ie rame. in ivery Rei'pefi. wiik
They would confider nothing but thetr Pey
in the Army, and would be ready to obey
' >rt that codd be given them by their
f'i the CoBfeijucDcc of which would
:..;iii:tc[ii of a military Government.
lir. are Con/r<]uencef that are moH jullly to Em
you' agiccing to what is now ptopnfed ; but,
hand, whiit \i i\ t ConfcquetKc we &re ihrea-
II 1 itt) really furprrzcd lo heur it mentioned in
(, li I) faid. if you do not agree to fome [gch
Bl», the Army will miiciny. What, Sir, will
Imioy, if yuu rcfufe [liem a ULierty to oppreii
? Whm I hear rhis Houfe thrcittrncd with fuch
vfocc. I muft fiy. it ii high Time for uj to think
■f out Army, or of (ending [hem. where they
hirv bom (cot long ago, Abraad to ^gfat our Er.e-
*T» thry miy g'lo Eoth Hoflour and Wealth to
9, »ihi at tbe-fa ix time yindicstc tbe Honour of
iMry. If t| a commun I-'ailing of weak Miodi.
tinet of nnk Miniltert too, S>r, to avoid IriTcr
running thrmfelvei into gioter, and rather than
bCAfcJvct tu a finai] itntitediate Oar.gcr^ to run
flitft a Z^r>ger which ii much greater, but a Uide
DOtt: I with thii nay not Uiely have been our
ih retaid to fuicigo Affiirt; I am fute it wou!d
■ > rcfpccl to (^otneflic. if. for fear of a Mu-
. wi- tboUid give them a legal Title to op-
xh would be the Conlcquence of our
propolcd. aad thcieloic I mull dccUre
'4>Ceo.
I74tt
, Jtily forry when I heard thai any Doubt or j^j, Pclham.
•rKet), ffbom the A&iir you have now ondcr
fidcntiof). I forcbw, that the Difcufton would
cd With great iocodTcaiencin, and thac it would
a BucJt beu<r» if the Qucllifin had never been
ilarted
'«''" with fk. " ^° •■ "ad tJie sS:i- "*« *« tbm
*'"nave any iv.- l' ^cannot Dn./1, ° ""' Pxtoil
"> «tcfy, a-j . ' * '*^, has beco .1, ^*^^ War), n
kn.
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Soldiers (]uarKr«d upon thrm, but what wts rt- Atmo ■ 4.
' tbcOfBccr?. ai fooB as they heard of 11. U- i"<0.
•Iaw itictfffotr. Sir, during the Time it h« bfcn L/'^VNJ
•n ihii Senle, hns proijuccd no bad BfTcA ; but
be intcTpreccd o:ke;wirr, ai 11 will be, if yoa re-
tCbulc, Gou lcnow!.n-hat iH E{K^. ii may prodocr.
r, or ctfacr Perfon, apon whom Soldicri may
quirtcr'd. will ibink himretf obliged to furmlb
for the Soldiers, even when they are upon a
iar.J onietjucnty, no Ion keeper will furniln any
'■' >grco to p;iy the Price be plcafei to de-
. ^ Kd mjy appoint Piicei, but what will that
lAlan he obirgrd to furniih or (ell iti the S^oldier
"lbeM.»rch of a Regiment, 'I'roop. or Com,'
Ibon a Matketor £!ctiion-Oiy :;: every Couo-
piff thro': The I'nct* of all Manner of
|1 rile to doulile what they are upon ordr.
■II and if the Soldicn will not, or oittiiot.
llialy the Cafe, pay ihofe Prkcij do Man will
Thing. Sir, it ii cify to fee wliat thit mutt
tltf Soldiers will not (larve in a Country where
Ifkmy, n ii onrcafbnabie to cxpefl they fhould i
tacnot pay :bc Prkci dcroartdcJ, they will lalce
wan: at their own Price, perh;ip* witbcut paying
.btcaufetltc Clime will, in firifl Law, be the feme ;
, krtak cpcn Doof ! to come St it, or to learch for
' loch n rtoi]^ of Men (hould once b^gin to think
~|ir ' the Eye o( the Law, they will ratu-
^;n to rhtnk of dolLroying that Law,
i^iietlrc/ (tietn ; !<'. m ibcy will expcd,
1(9 ntghf, p:t. re: wilU ihcSuppott ol^
Amy.
EStfl!, Sir, arc cfrciioly lobe 3pprehctuled,bf.
r, t think, lh<y aro the o^luial Coircq-ienco of your
r T j\. . ill (liit tefpecL I call il aitctmg the Law,
'W,)t Ml ai IraJt been undcrltood to be
"-r paA. It thii wat really the im*
iniog of the Law, I'arcly ro great
EC N~i L ,,^:ni your mikiij^ the Law tiiote
ti* wu not the itnpUcd Mun.ng of the Law,
■ -■■*' '-r -r-kr it die txprclTcd Meaning
Sifcty jtqutres it- Some
nkrn n j'-.iv(d« fof the Snidie/i; The/
r. atkd they muA live upoa a Groat a Oiy, bccaute
a« note lo give- They muft tuve netefGuy Pro-
' tfce Trices ifaey are nblr to pay for them, and thcj
lire them ai or about the Placet where tbey are tfuur-
teietf.
'( t$t )
■Annou.Gw Wtrf, Weatjfe »ccor(!Jng tothe Rules of
n I7*'- A'my, they cannct go rlicwhcre to feck for them If
^Z*"*^"^ oblige ihc Owner! f^f Publir-iioafci tn furnilb nrv
vifioni for the Soldiers quanrrcd upon them, a: ;
ihe'^oIJrcti arc able to p4y. foi at thotc I'ticci tJic
fprntfh or not at all, yoo ooty make ihcm a furt of
for the Atmr, which ha> never been thtjughi a bi
ment : They wilt generalty hare feme Diyi
Rcgitneni, Troop, or Cumpany's cooiing to be quit
upon them, and will take care ro proviile Tome D'y* bef
hand, when ihe Mirtecti are cheap, or they will lerij tai
Market I'owa tn the Nci'ghhojthood where they
cheapen. They will always hive rnanj' OppcrtantlU
many Method<i of providing (or the SoUiers, at a
Rnre chiin thry can piovmc fur [heoifctvo; anJ Gnc
may rocafily.and lb certainly, provide fur the Solditn'
icrrd uptMi tliem. at fuel) Piices ai thcSoldierk arr ifiic|
pay, I cannot think there would be any grtit Hknllhif
obliging ihcm ;o dofo.
* The Dangers froin ihcnce ariling, and whict: - ' ■
fei in fa lertible a Liglu by fome Genttemea in *.'
arc in my Opiaioc, Su, mere Ilu^bcari. cieatcd t
gimiiun oiily- It will very larely bipptn, d. ... ,
Places at any Otilance from London, that aSoldin tumj ij
br plcmi/ullj' (urijiftied at the me of a Groat ilhy; itq
any Soldier fliauld infiR upon agiciier <: ■ ■ '
or upon mote delicate Fare, than Cin i . i • (
Price, he wtll not only be defpifed by bis Compinioti,
puntihcd by hii Officer i for hiihoito in the Amy, u
fiflcc, it will always be (6. there is oothmg re<koii*iI
tiiftionaniable and defpicablc than for a Saldirr co be i
fomc snif unealy in his Quiricr*. without any juft
-from whcDCe. I believe. It would be a very (Uftgefoitt
jcd to fendSoUiert to quarter tn a City or Burou^h.
private Hint to be z^ opprrfTive at poflibTe id their
live Qoarten, in order to punifh City or Boroo^h i
count of an EleAioo. Thank Godt the Sol<]i<n of
Army would as yet defpilie fuch Ilinti. and ibofr ihacj
Ihem : Tbey would think ihemCclvcs obliged in Hi
difcover the Authort of fuch trtafonabic Pradicci
ifae ConDitution of their Country 4 at
Complaint, it would be very eaiy for tl
and puntfli the Au:hot}: Nay. aiwe:iic c.u:
the Kotei of Evidtnce in Weftininl1er-Hd!t, u-«;
ptohably by proper fifung, came at ibe primr.
Author.
( 153 )
* Tor ibefr RmIoiii, Sir, I mull ihlnk, that the DiQg«rs Anno 14, Geo:
ftmiti to trife from our obliging ihe Owners of Public- "- '^-f-'-
MMi to furnifli Diet and SmalUBcer for the SoIdJcn qiiar' ^^TrVgy
mnA Bfoa them, anr all imaginary ; but the Dangrrs arifing
tfcAffir Inving the Suldicri of our Army unprovided for,
Ml cfeca wtihoiit a Poiribility of providing for chemfelvei,
sifir Eratn beins fo. 'Httte Dangerj therefore miifl be
foWUigiibll : 1 Iboolil be gild to ^nd fomc other Expedi-
m br avoiding ibefe Danger6i bat if 00 other can be
6fKl, we noA cake what h now propofed. Tt is the Bud-
tdltf c«try Gentleman here, wbea any DiRiculiy or Dan-
ger ocean, 10 think of, and contrive fuch Expcdicnit 11 may
be »eft cJK:AuaI aod moA fafe for his Country ; and yet
tkn an £>me (jcnttemen in this Houfc, who ferm to be<
*f t«avcry diflfeieni Manner : They arc alwayi Jlarting
iooi ai^ainfl.and prcfaging Dangfn from every Expc-
(icy hi4r propafcd. but never otticr any Propofil, any
ly 0* Pievcniion, of their own. As thefe Gent'cmcn
have a mrghty fruitful (nveniion, I wilTi they would
K to the Cifo now before ut : I wifh they would pro-
jntc (iflttc oihcr F.xpcdicnt for preverdng the Evil we ara
fnftMthmtcn'd with. If they do, I protnife (hem. I (hill
it aeaitdid a»l impartial Examination ; ami if [ think
redSrAual or more fafe than what ti now propofed, I
cmMtiij give it the Prtftrrpce.'
I &all SOI prttend to tell yoo what ii now the Law, with
U iht quartering cf SoUiteri. I huve carefully read
riti* KSl now fabfiiting for th?t Purpofe : but I mail
,1 an a littlt dcobcfu) in my Opinion, and I have do
10 be afliaraed of frying fo, after lb great a L3Wyer,
^CocDyn*. declared himCelf doubtful, ai an lionotir-
■cnifcmia hit been firafcd to inToTtn ut. I have*
-d for the two learned Gcnilrmen, who hare
pinions upon the Quell-on j but at I am con-
\tmcnz Law)-eTt, 1 have known Lawyer* gtre Opini.
Houfe, whkh were contrary to the Opinion of
ofihc Prof(ffii>n [ and therefore, the Opini-
ive been givrn^caa be no Atithoriiy for dccUriug
[jtw It prffcnt.
H-- --'V GeotlenuQ who fpoke laR, Sir, hit
Bf. -I' ver may be the Meaning of the Law, it
llbf onr '■ ; ;■ 1 e*f» patt been a prevailing Opinion, that
Owrrij t-r Pu:,lic hoiil'es were by Law cbUged to fiirniih
-1 quar.ered opoo them, wtlb Diet and SmilN
iL X BtKT,
C 154 )
Aopot4,Geo.Beer. Thtt thii. Sir. bu been the gcnerU ?nBtk
Il->7 4'>- be true 1 I believe the Oivneri of fucb Houfti bcTi
L/*N^^J rally donefo) but tfaii it no Picmf of iti havUig
gencrit Opioian, ihtti they were by Law uUligcd li
A Mbr will fubinit to I JaiU Hardtbip, rather thta
a doubtful Point iQ l.aw; but wben ;h&t Hardlhip I
gricvou*. he think* It woiih h'u wbilc to cootell it;
than (ubmit to it loy longer. The Doubt ibat 1
Utciy ftirtcd, does act. therefore, proceed from
biviiig altered their Opinion, but from your bivi|
up lucba numerous Army for fucb a Number uf Yc»i
Peop e grew at lill tired of fultniitting to ■ Hardfliif
Chey doubted if they were oi>[ij:?il to lubmii to. toA
inJkad of being removed or lightened. <hcy fouiui
{rowing almoll every Year moie heavy iltao il was
• This, Sir,u the true ReaVon of the Doub< that M
Uiely Dated, in rclaiiott to the fumtOiing cf Soldid
Diet and Small Beer, or with lUy and S:raw fa
Horfei, at the Prtcet allowed by the Govetnitvent : I
have now fuch a gical Numbrr of Land Forcci wid
Kingdom, thm I am aot m all furptiard »i the Pe«||
ing gtnerally refolvcd to have ihii Qjellioo tieicrnu
way or oihct. What UCe wai dcfigncd, or wiui
be made of this great Liou-Army, I QiaII not pn
gu«[t i but I Bm afraid, no U(e, at lealt no nilinry I
be made of thcra. At we arc in courfe to have na
mer a new Patltament chofen. the great Augmcoial
have m^de, aad the expcnfive minocr in which %
made that Augacntmion, gives Occafion to very a
pkioni. People know what an U£b may bemKic
niCuoos for Officers lo fcrvc in tb« Army, with n
RIedloni for Members to fcrvc in Parlinmeni ; A <
fioo, or the Promifc of a CommifEon in the Army.
Sge a Mao and bii Fiicndi to Tme for a wcaJc or
milter, who would oihcnvife melt certainly vot<
bin- 'I'he Terror* of having a RegimeBt of foi
Regimcniof Dragocotfcnt toquaiur upon a Boros
engage the MagiArsici, fomc of whom a;e often Ii
crt, to vote for a Court Candidate, Khofe Face thcv hi
the Flearure to behold, in Ospobcion to the mott bl
and boiietl Gentleman in thnr Neighbourhood.
• Thcfe, S:r, arc Tome of the illegal Vfn that
mideoi an Armyj and every illegal U'fe that can
of an Amy. win receive ncwStrrngtb from ibc Am
tow piopofed. If you lay lon-kcepcn, aad other
cf Public-faoutef, undera legal Obligation to fitrnilfa
tficri with uKcSiiy V-.ori&oat lot tbemlelva and t
C >55 )
, C«o.
tppaintrd by Law, is yoa cuootilbetteiB An
irtJiy Of Kind of (acU Prorifioni. the Owocri ILj'i""
will Bever be able to Uatiy ibe SalJiers ijia/- V«^»^N^
ID. The Soldier will in Till upon having more
lifo tile laii<I(cepcr can bu)' lor Six -pence,
1m lUonrcd, would be k very great Oppreffion
I and tww iihe tobetelicTedF W|tv, hy the
|«od-nMure ofthe comnundiDg Officer. Sir.
be good-natured ind hiiinanc.i believe mi-
le fe) but it h bitdly poStble lo pieveat a
liule partial to one of fiis own LJoth : and
" tlitak, a Law for Tobjctling the People to
Smo. B/ilhoui any other RcBcdy, could neither
'Mtut*J nor humuic ; efpcciallyirweconrider,
Ifigincnt is *eal to cotre^ an obilinate Bo-
. the comnunding Officer, wtthaat fo much
know, that lliii Prtfermcni dependi upon hit
to the ComptaiDtt ol the lahabitanu.
(txh i Lswai (hit, acthii Time, will therrfore
rcaic ihofc Sclpicioni that hare been already
AugHKotatioD wc have lardy mide to our
Qxpcofive tiuRocr in wbkh tliil Augmentation
ri ud in tbei'e Sufptcioni moA People will be
tiiCfrailcfl Part of our Army it not very fooa
KiflgdoRi, to carry on with Vigour the War
in. If any* thing like thii bedcfigmo',
far a tiering or rxptaining the Law i
will ibcn have but few Soldiers quirtercd
wiU liierefure cOQCinue to do, as they have
A forty Vean pad. The Owncn of Pobtic-
iptinue to rurnifti the Soldicn with neceflarjr
n the Soldier content* himfclf with fuch Pro-
Landlord can futnint at the Price sllowed b^
til : Hay, they will furnilh the Soldiers, 1
better Kroviiiuns, and with more' Good^wjIL
4tma lot twenty Veart pail ; for when a Pxtt
employed in lighting viaorioufly, ai [ hope
~iil fiMmiei of Itieir Coootry, the N^tne
agiia begin to be rclpe^ilcd and beloved
f, will be tba Confequaoce of fending a great
Abroad to tighi a^ainlt the Fnetoie) c(^
lalndof keeping ihctn :ic Home to opptefi
1vcac« lliG next ge-Rcra! ElcC^Joas. Fiut
potiltoo now m-tdc to ii* gives mc fome
that liirre ii n.'i ki much m a Dciign
irtof our Army ALro;;d ; and ihU tnikci
X i uc
( is6)
Anno 14, Ceo me tlic more unwilling 10 i|rce to whni the Hoi
IL 1740. Gcmlcinan baibcen p cafed to propofe ; for if fuch ft Ni
^-^''"V"''^*^ bet of regular Force* be kept wiihin the Kingdom, but fj
a (cw Yean, xnd fucn n Iaw it >s now pmpoM turpi m
Foiec, ihe Number of Publ»c houfei will dcercale fo much,
that it will be impofliblc to find Qoarters lor ilic Army la
fuch Hourct. and (hit will of courie nuke Bameki abb-
luiely Dtce^ry, whkh will foon put as End to our ktpp
Conllitution. We mull alMiyt bave la this KingJon a
grcjt N'ombrr of Travclleri upon our public Roadi : If
had no Trade, which nay be the Conletjuence of oar
Mealuie, if oot foon aUcred, yti (be very Nature of
ConftituiiOB occafions a greater Number of TrartUen.^
thit Kingdom, than jq any ncighhoaring Co-.Ptry
Menohert both ol thii aod ibe o:ber Hou7e« of Parltaiwc
mull hi. accommodated ivlih l^gingand StabliDg^ is tbcit
Joumies to and from Patliamcnn but hou- OuU ihey (kk-
commodltcd, if every Inn they come to be fullof SoJdMnF
Will they Ik in the Streeti to make toon tor a Lmi m
Member of Pailnmenl i Will they be commanly r>vil m
any Traveller that conies to hamper them in ibnr Qm-j
tttii On the contrary, thry do oot always bebare 101
moft civil manner to Travellcn, even of the firfi
lor lately at North- Allenoo they fciztd onnnd carried <
Kcvcrend Hrelare'i Dinner, upon Preieiioe, that ibc
lord had oot provided difBciently for then. WhM Rl
iKz Reverend Prelate met with, or whether }ie applWl
■ny, I do not know i but be could not recover hit ~
and thii iliews what InconvLtiienctei we, ai well ui
Travcltcrt, may be put m. il ail the Ioo«of utf Uidc'
we may come to upon the Koad, fbould be IbcraaiaMd
Soldictt, a* not to be able to furniOl AccoaineditMa
Eotcriaiomentt'or any Traveller.
* I Ihall grant. Sir, that whilll we keep fuch a
Army within the Kingdom, and continue themodeta Fr
Prsthce of having fome Part of that Army always
tng and countcrtnarching from one End of the
to the other, under I'rricnce of what is called cjuni
Garrironi : I fav. whilll wcdo fo. the Soklieri may .
nadcr great DiSicultiei with regard to Pruvi&oAa, botk 1
their Maich, and in tbeir Icit'cd t^irtert. onlcfa '
tbcii (^rcers to furnifli them at luch Prk«i, aa thcjrj
«j8bid to pay; but the moS proper Eipedieai far ««
ihit JncanvtnicccCt >it in my Opinion, very obviaw.
i). to fend the gmtell Part of yoor Amy againA the
my in Time of Wat, and never to keep a greater Mi
of Troopi within the Kingdom, than an abloharijr
( 157 )
the jud EnJ» «f Goireronctit. I will undcrutce, Anno rt, G«4.
-" -'e People knew, tbai any Paitof your Army is " iT4o
ro' the Kingdym, in order [o go smi fight ihe ^b-^'V''^^
'-i- Country (hey will frccty and volunurily
titi with every ihing necffDry upoo iheir
(iki-/ nre (cfiCbleaF what it mcuicby changiDg
It, wbkl) in abfolute Goveromeou is iniendcd ^
'to prvent the Soldicft Irom :ic(]uiriag »ny Ton of
hatent to ihl People .nniongit wtiom they live, snd to
I look up«n thccilclv.->, >a a Body of Mco quite
i-> ihc Prcp'r, I cannot by, amongfl whom they
iitQRgt^ uli&m they fojourn; and tbcrcrare, tlie
hii KmgHoifi Rioll rtiioRibly complain, find re-
bciB( opprcfToi vf incoitimudcd With the March-
^ .'oommnarK iiig iit ;!■;,.: i^r Troopt, when iLey
P, or u leiH im3].-i'<c i( to ue loiended for ftich a dui-
I »d Muitnry yi'^^ok.
tbu'', Sii, nuntioned one Expediect. Snd I
Jy proper £ipnlK.nit ftfi^ prevcniiiig tlie Incva-
CTimpliinra of, i Impe ihc HonoiirHO'eCeotleinan
M( beTc^fier fjy, ilui i.iCic ire «n)' Gcnitcnt^n in tbi)
ifa, wkn iM aln.iv; iiirl iig Objcfli-n* igiiiul every Ex-
-11 jir..fvijl"Ei, Lot never oB:t 4jiy Rfmedy or
ur own Cmilemeo have Re:ilon toobjeA
-' that are apparently worfe thin tK« Dif-
ktly ivhen the true Keinidy ii obviout ; but u I
tbat llic Rctncd/ X have now offered will
t>t by Ofir chjcf State Phyiicians, and am
Remedy ippliett rithcr than that'now pro-
olilcrre. (hat ano'.her Remedy baa already been
ifi (hu DelMir, whtcb I think }efs opprrjrii^e thaq
U BOW propoled. and which 1 the rather approve of,
lU it «t made Ufe of foon after the Rcvoi-iiion. A%
WM u Time. Sir, wl<ich I highly Mpprovc of, I hid for
i| •■ ftcat ir " * ' '<! tnerefnrr, if ue oiufl keep
tach a ngo- . Army at we hnve at prefeat«
■uSkecp iticrn nil j; tluflie tea, I am fordoing I'ooie-
like what ivai done in the Vckr 1696-7. In that
' ri has already told os, A
■ A&. by which ii was
1, llttt Di/ Itici-lii,;dct ll.ujIJ be oblif^cd lu provide
firr any Sjidier, if he liioi^ld give hini ^. a Day,
niJihcUieof his Fire for drefiing hit Meat.
' new regularly p&id, we hue no Occifioii
^'V"*K '"' '"" '■•'-■^^cri to advance any Money to ilic
Ikt* (juarierrd u^cn [bcm, but if there be Dow iti actlo-
Ncffioy for any titiog lUu what ii cew propoted, I
tkiak
!IBu4
( «5S)
Anno i4» Ccothink we ought lo giVe an Optkm to Inn-bolJefa* 4
"ij"* |»rovicJe Viftoiili for fuch Soldicn, at ihc Rice of -iS.
^•VN^
i
or othrCrwilc to furniQi tbem with Lodging. Caadk, L*t
ils fardrtiTing their Meat, a»d the Ule of ihcir Pire^
nothing
• ETtnthii, Sir. «%ill be a very grtu HardHiEp upoB^
Owners of our Public-hourei; but, 1 ihink, it will be « M
Hardlhip than rhac of (uhjrfling thrm lu ibc irbicrarf Di
nund» of the SolJten quirtercd upon them, for wbai tb*]
may be plcsfed to call ticccITtr)' Provifiooi. How tJuaCi
pedient will do, or whelhirr it may appear to be fitCcicat III
reraovrng the Evil conipbiocd of. I do itot knowj bat u I
ii k Matter of the ocmoil ItnportsDce. I ihitttt DcHlicr ito
not a.ay other Expedient ougbt to be raOiI}' gunc Intoi (oi
which Reafon, I think, we ought to take fome Oa)>* (o ce*
fider of it. and for that Purpofc to adjoorn the Comminm
There is no NecclCty for imfnediatcly comnKncing a I4W
Atit) in order to determine (he QueAion l-ilely llactal vpn
tbii Subject. Jf the Ncccgity for thii Detcnnttutioii cavM
be removed, by a Diminuiion of our Army, I hope, wi
Auil in this Houfe h\l upon foaie Mrihod for dcrenniniu
the QocHion, without fending it lots WcDmioRrr Hat] i (j
tho' I bcloog 10 Wellminner-Hall, yet I iKall aiwayi be»
f.inftPeopk's being brought there for deciding any QoiiiM,
wifh tbey were out (0 apt to come there, at I m thtj
*n: It might be a Lof) to nie, but it would be a Gats
xht Nation i and I Hull never dcfirc to incrcafc my P| '
at tbe £xpcacc of my Cooouy.'
Si I.
■ We axe now about reviving an expiring Law:
Meaning of that Law, at it Qaiidi at prdett, appean
deoblful, *t hai been acknowledged by moQ Gcat'
who hnve fpoke in thii Debate. Lao it admit of a Ddptft
wlicther wc ought to remove that Doubt, by fomeopUMr
tory Wonti ia the Bill now before utt Would hMcT
moil egregious Solecirm for a ;cgiflative AJembly
a Law which they know to be doubcfal 7 Let at
what a Number of Ljtw fuiu may be occafioaed be^pecl
Thnc Twelvemonth Vou cannot, at leafi you oogU
think, to make a Law with a Rctrofped, and thcreibrt yM
caonot putiD End lu thcfc t.aw-fu)t». by any new Law nfa
paffed a Vcar heoce. Tho' you arc the Makeri, jTct yoa ftT
not by our CoalUiutioa the Inletprrten of the Law: Hi
Mijefty'* Jodgei in WeAmiolleT-Hall are the latcrpcHlB
aod they are Iwom to give Jjdgment ia every Okk ik
nplaa^
UtaA
( ^59 )
tfaen. iccording to iht Lawi which were i&Annoi4,GcoL
I thai Cdfe happened. Suppofe now, jrou diotild '^L'^i^'
explnining ol ihh Law till next V'ear. and ;oo
mln bcfurc then be cominenccd upon the Doubt
aMtigcd to be in ihc Law, the Explartnoo yoa
I put Upon (ijc law, woold net put a Slop to an}- of tbelb
h4iiu t bccaurc the Judges might be of Opinion, that
^'flrds of the Law couU not bear the KxpUnacion yoa
thetn by a dcw Law, la all Cite* that might
mdf. they wou^d be obliged to dctcnnine u.
J (Mr EipUnation ; but in Cafei that had before
ty would in Conlcicncc be obliged to determine
j to ihclr own Opitiion, eveo tha* cootrar/ to what
>>/ /t.-Jt, declatnl to be yoatt.
heerc, Sir, you miy fee, what a Muln:udf of
itii may Ix occaiiofted, and what a monfttoui Expencc
!bc broaght upon the t^uhjtrd by your dcUying to ex-
snd rrnuTc the Doubt that hath arifen. hat fof one
Surely it ii our Oucy to prrvcnt Law-luitt.
u (oon as we un. Tac Trade of a Lawyer.
iicjoft will ever encou.-agc: and the Tnide too, of
ig, Alcboale -keeping, ot letailing of Spirhoiu
[doci not, I think, dclVrve all that Regard whicli
(bcwo to it in thit Debate. But Oimi'ti we flip.
thai (key Will always be a.t a great Lofs by furnifhing
It ^aarteicd upoo thein with Diet and Small-Beer^
EC tH fd. a Day, the Lofi will not fall upon them:
ki Price* they charge t.tey will oblige their other
ri to make it good i^and therefore, if tbli ImU were
Lxtkcd on aj a Tax, tt could Doi be confidered ai ■
il. Ejr unequal T^*, but a Tax laid apon the whole Peo-
unI It niudeiibcr be no Tan at all. t»ra Tax ai ncccf*
faaiay one that wai ever impofcd.
men may cry, how I bow f and fecm Purprized at
L Gml ; bjt if they will have a Utile Patience. I
Iflui^iCgogd, I repeal i: again. Sir, that the obliging
hJutrpCTi, aod fuch like, lo tumifb Diet and Stnall-Bccr
"^ ' 'icra quanercd upon them, mull either be no Lots
Bpo* (heni, or upoti any one elie, or oiherwifie
: be aa acecibry a Tax at ever wai iiopofed id thii
aid my Keafo-i for laying To ii thii : If Provi-
iclMsp, «i they generally aie, that an Ion keeper
Piei and Snuil-Bcer to the Soldicn qiurtetcd
^d. a Day, and have a reafoiuble Projit to
thcob-igiBg htm to do fo, can be no Taj upon
|«r anr Man elk. Oil the other hand, ifProvlfiona
teppca at any paruculai Time, oc tn acy particular
Place,
TmiD^W, Ceo PU«, » is lo 3ftr, tliit the lBn-k*«pcr cinnet fattltk Dl«
IL 174O' anil Sonill-Qeer ht the SolJleri qutrurcd upon hiir, U(U
|^V''\J R»t« of 4*1. a Day, 1 am very Aire, the SoUier wi:i oc
ibleto fijrnilli Di«c and Small- Beer for himfcif a; reur
R«ic: brcsuft an Inn keeper who brcwt faji c«:;
Brer, and buys greai QaantJitci cf \ien it 1 lii&r, ^
way* beab'e to Icll ii at a mock cheaper Kam cliiaiiKS»-
dirr can porchafe it io the fmjil nusntitits he hii cct
for, or can afford to buy at a iitne. Out tbe<
more than ^d. a Dty to bcftow upon bimftlf
Smalt-Bccr, what thrn can he (In i He mull either Uarrc et
llwl. The former we cannot fuppofe he *ill do ; and j/ «
{jTCat Part of the Army Ihoold be brought under ihr Nerrf-
iiy of living by Theft or Plundering, not only ogr CoaflJ.
tuttoB, but the Prapcity of every Man in the KioHcA
would theabeintbe uimofi Danger.
• It hai been faid in thit Detatr. thji if our Soldicri cu-
BOt live upun 41). a Day. uc mull augmeot their Pay i ktf
letu^ confider. Sir. ihii in moll P^iti of the Kir}i;dot», mi
at iroff Times, a Soldier can live upon 4^. a V*y « uii
it fb'^u'd be piopoUd to proportion c heir Pay, accordJa|l»
iho Timci. andaccordiagto (be Placet in which they mtf
berjtWffffe'^. ;hi'. cartint he done by Parliament: l| ndl
be left (o Mitiiitcri, and this, in my Opinion, wou'd be •
■oreemeofire and a more dargerooi Power, rhan aoy n*
lodged in the Crown. There ii, therefore, no other wtjtl
fubrilltrg your Army, in Time i>f Scaicity, which ii (cl^
grnrral, and ntver lall^ long, than by obliging the 0<nm
«f Public-houlei to furollb ihcni «tcb D>ei anj Snutt ~
at fucfa a Rate ai their Pay will admit of. Thit I (hi B .
ja, in Time* of Scarcity, a fori of Tax upon the 0«
fuch Hoofri, or rather, as I have la (d. upon their Cull<
but ai there ii no otfler way o( fubfiiiing your Anaf, i
fatb Times, il it absolutely ntcrffary. and will ibcrcf
bope, be always patiently (<jbmit:r(l to
' Ai for the Eiprdiem found oat in the Year of i(
it was then made i.-(e c-f. becaofe our I'roopi keu
Deithcr were, norcoutiJ be regularly paid j for .
wi:t not be thought, thai the Soldier wairo ha*--: ,
from the Innkeeper, teftdet hii Pay from the Gaverei
bot at the Army i> now r«gu'arly ,Hid, buth their Sub
Money and Arreari, we have no tXcafioo forfucb aal
dient ( will be fiir ftom removin;; the Difficulty sow
Con6dcr.<tioni for it wiU fignlfy nothing to providl
and UtenfWs foi a Soldier 10 dicl» his Meatw -'- -*--
can get no Meat lo dreft, or none at the Pfi«
pay Icr i', wbKb will af^n be the Cafe upoaa .\u
ikrclbrc, in rhe Yent of 1696-.7, ibe Provision in Favour of A.nnoi4,G«>.
(•a-lio^crs wai not ejctendcd to So'diert upon a Marich ; nor ^'- ^74^^-
hi^liC it, 1 tbink, oow to be extended to Soldiers, even in the ^/'^''^J
kkfcf where they are appointed to refide ; bccaufe an Ina>
holder. Alehouiie-keeper, or Vifluall'.i, can always furnilha
Sridicr with Diet and SmallBeer at a cheaper Kate than h«
EH ftraifll himfcif, If lie rehifeb to do fo, it mull proceed
Imi incrc Otiftinacy, ur from an uncommon Dearth of Pro-
nfioos : Id tfac ibr^ner CafC, he ought to be compelled ; ard
■ the laiier, he mull br compttlcd, because there is no other
Hwj of providing far (be Soldicr'k Sublicence, and every
SeaiJcBiJD wiJl admit, that while we liavc Soldiers, we mail
ftttkit for their Sjbdiicnce, in Time ot Scarcity a> well as
■ Tine of Plenty. In Times of Scarcity it may be a Lofs
a clw Ifin-keepcr, but, like many o(I>er>, it is a Lofs which,
ior che fake or the Public, mull necellirily attend the Bufi-
wbhe follawi, and at no Time it can be a Hardship, becaufe,
M tbc Soldier 'n fubjcA to Mania! Law, that Law will
Jaujri nake bim auc only reaibn:;ble, but civil in his Qjur-
Si K}
* I in furprizrd to bear Gentlemen To miich as ruppofe,
due %vy Mu titude of Law-fuits can enfue from leaving this
AA ia tfac very Words it Hands at prefent, and has Hood for
hmt Years. For my own Pan, [ do not pretend to any
ktf Learning in the Law, efpeciatly in the Prnaical Pan of
Iti and tbenfore I Ihou'd be glad to know, from Tome of
4Mfc Gentlemen who make that S'udy tht-ir ProfiCion, how
l^f Biorc than ona law luit could be thi- Confequence of our
iMnaiatning that Part i>f tliis Law, which i» now faid to be
IUkmI. U any Suit be commenced fgr having this Q-iel-
l&termined, it mud be brought, either by the Govern-
at, by WAV of Information, or by a SoUier, by way of Ac-
irf the Cife Dpoa the Statute, againttan Innfcefperwho
^ rcfbfrd lo'furnifti him with Die: and Smal!-Beer, at
ft Rue of 4d. a Day ; and can we fuppo e, thjt our Go-
limBent, or rather our rao-t excellent Minillers, w*ou!d be
^matk)U4, as to bring feveral Informations, or to allow the
lUieis to bring Several Aflions, when one would be as Tut
Jeat Bftfire buodred, for deciding the Question in Difpuic,
m for preventing all farther Doubt. Whatever Opinion
'ftoBOunble Ceiitieman who fpoke laft may have of our
Mien, [ am far from having fu bad an Opinion of them t
' tfeerefbre, if we fhuuld Jeave this Qiietlion undecided,
ifce Army fliouIJ infill upon iu being decided by a Suit at
av, X an convinced, no tn*re tkin one Law-fuit could
Vol. vu, y *««»
^mg,.Q^rrom ih«nce enfiie: an J t be Event of that Sjit. I belicTC.
11. (740. o'jr lQn-k«p?rs luve no Rnfon to be ifniii of, becuiiel
V/V^S^ cuinot think, ihst a Law, which (impi/ obli£« me to it-
ccive a M&a idio my llouCr, <ud be fuppofei by anjr hnptt-
flat Man in the Kingdom to oiein, that 1 fhouid be dtugi
lifcfvvik to maintain hira.
• But, Sir, if it (houM be determined otbrrwife t If flir
JtidgFt fhou'j be uf Opinion, (hat the L&w, u It now Ainti,
obligrs Inn keepers and oiheri to furnilh thcSuldicft qsU'
trtcH upon ihcm, with Diet and Sniatt-Bcer, ut the Ran >f
4d. i l)3», 1 ftiooM then be for altcfing the Lawai (ooait
polViblc! becaufe, 1 think, it »ould hy imoftgrrer^
apon the Owners of all our Public-haurc;, a Tax wh.
they could not recover From their Ctiftomcn, and » lu
whJcIt t think ablolutely unnecelfiry. The fnmilhiBK of
Soldiert with Lodging and Ifouferoom ii of ttfclf fo iroaUc-
lomcia lon-ktcperi, that m^ny of them give the Sotdicna
Shilling or Rightfen-pcoce a Week, lo be esriiTly ndti
(heir Compnny } ind if you (hould further oblige Innkt^
erk lo furnifli the Soldiers with Diet and Small-Iksr, Ii>
perfuaJrd, molt uf our Inns would be glad to give t&c Set-
aicn Half a Crimn or I'Jirce Shillings a Week, to firondt
(hemfclvc} fgtnewbrre clfe, rather ihaa have Cudomenid
T«vel!eri bmiftied away f'Cm their Houfe, by teetag i:iJ-
wiyt roll of Soldicri.
* Thii. Sir, will be & moft infuilerable Burden upoaiU
Fablic- boafes ; and to fuppofe, that thii Lofs would be fn^
good by tbeir riiGog ihcir I'ncci to their Cuftomcn. n ic-
pofing igairli RrAfon and Evpetience: they ORtiM taM
the Price of any Ltcjuori ihcy tell, which is ihe prtacwl
P^rt of their Prtiit> i and if they Ibould make tbcm wwfc<
no \\±a would come to purchaic or drink thera. Etcs m
to Eatablci, the Markct-Pncc ii fo well known, thai |k|
would be look'd upoo as Extortioners, if they deoundal a
greater Proht than ulual, which H-ould of courlc makcdl
ibeir Ccltemcri forfake the Hcufc i and 1 believe it «4
aot be (aid, that, even in the Timet of the gteatrfl f^mlf,
a PuStic-houi'e could Tupport itfclf u|K]n the Pic^ita madi tf
tlic Soldier: <]aariered upon it.
• Now. Sir, witb rcganl to theNeoeffity of iinpo£flg^
Burden or Tax upon the OMneri of ihcic Hnal'ci. whof
Soldieisflteby Law allowed to be qusrterrd. the HoB-J3Ti!i»
Gentleman has, ] thiolc, given us but two Realur
and both of them I tike to be without Foaadatioo.
T hat the 0*-fieri of iuch Houfci may boy cheaper i !
dltri can: It there any Fcu.-d;rioii for laying io i i
a SttUlicf buy at cheap a; M^ikct u hU luHotd on t'
r 163 )
Cre or fix of ibcm join togethet. it they uTuall/ do, Anno 14, Ceo
-- '-T-- 1 Urge a Joint of Meat, or as great a *^ ^7^-
K.iia commor Houfckceper doea Jor V^>''V^^
j<r. uic/ will buy cheaper for ihemlelves, iliaii
llsnl can lor them ; We luiow wtui a Difference
-a ths Piicei of different Jointi of the Came
r bc'.wcen the Icreral Spcc'Ci of llie finiQ
c; r.'o^ifiost. Wbcn Soldicu buy for ihemfclvei,
Will be cuntentnl with the coarfdl and cliMpell futl*
^fdetr LindJord buys lor ihem, tbc/ will iqfilt upon
[ itvc fincO ud dureti.
Rc^on iiligiicd by tbe Hooograble Gentle.
'■^'vceAity be pitidt for, », that in Tunes of
- iniioi lubfin upon 4x1. a I>ay, and mull
1 by bi^ Landlord at that Fricr^ bccaufe
iiiuic. Buih chcfe Fa£U,Sif, I deny. There
chat I know of, fucb a Scarcity in England,
I make tt im{:)c(rib!c iM a \!;in to rubfill upon ^d, a
At contented bunfcU with the coarldt fort of Pro-
il bat the Truth of the Miitter, I believe, ii, tbe
able Gcnilcman anJ hit Knenils h.v£ a Mind, thai
Tiair:^ of S^rcuy Soldiert Ihould feed ai delicately, and
aj well, 11 ibey cin do in flmei of tbe grcaiell Plenty:
tra* 1 am for their being ai;tdc feoftlile of the DiArdTei
CoQtitry 1 likmvile deny. Sir, that a Soldier can
,H> Borc that) ^ri. a Day for Diet ami 3maIl-Beer. It
'-'"vwn, tCiA! (bcSoldieriiiiOJr Marthing-Kegi-
6i. a Oay by the Govemincnti and why
ft^i .iiij.d bewiih-hcld from a poor Soldtei's Pay. I
oo Reafor, aaler> it be, ihit the Colonel ilioa]d
Inch a proniable Contract, as to get 1000 or ijool.
clmtdtng hu tlfgimeot. aod that all the poor FrUow»
appear dean fliavcd, and wcU po«.deied at a Re-
roriay Part, I think a Man wiibout any Powder in
Kur. and even with a long Butd, may look ai like a
r. and do hi'. BuGner'^ ai well, ai a Mm with a Smock
.aod powJcrcd Locks: and iheirfore t intifl think,
late Veari, our Army lia^ been dcligacd nthcr to
Ladies, than to kill [he RncniKi of ibeir Country :
Reatbn. I am of Ot-inion, that if oitr Sokiirrt
po: te oo greater Expcnce than Is Abfolutely necefTtry
'ib«ir appcanng like Sotdicn, and oot like Beiui. a So\
cvm of a Marching Kegimcni might fpite ;J. a Day
~}iiet and Sntl1-B<et ; an«l with rrfpr^l to the Soldiers of
t-Gaatdt, aa they are paid Bd. a Day by the Go-
rfit, I am farpnzed to hear it fomuch ai iDftouated,
II tbe/ caawt fpuc above 4d. t pay for Diet and Small-
Y a Bctrj
Anini4,Gco ItMr ; yrt no D'fft'rfnn ii. [ SncI, to be mnic hetvtt
i^-t'iO Sij.lAieTi of Marching RegtipfnM. find thofe rf ihc
^^yy'^S^ Guard*, tho' the liticr on ccfWrnlj' ■•ford Top«T
Diet anJ SnuU Cecr th-in tbc ritmer; pw) thu' tht
■re grtirrally ([uattercd in WcHtniniirr. ird abom L
where Houfc-rent and Provfiops are ji'waj** drarcf
Country Pbcf!, or Ciliej lemew fiom l-ordofi.
' Tt'm. Sir, I hope I b»ve (hfwn, ttiat, bj- tht
nowftlTrred, » nnoft lusvy tdjiitonal Tax wottJ be '>fi
the Ovtnersof our PubMC-hewfci t thm it t» i Taji
ihey cciuid not oblige iKeir Cuftom«rs to besr any
^nd ibxc it ii X mw vn^KritAr\ Tax. beotule S-^Wie
provide (or ibcmfclvci not only in 'I'lme* of Pler'ty
}a Timei cf Scarcity, uniefi (h«t Scarrin' ft^u'd be (t
extra<irdinary, a* h»* feMom or never h-ifperrd, awl
not thertfoK to bt msJc a F-undtiion for x
flarding Re£ulo('on, which wil H all Tinvf j be
upon a grwt Part of ttic People, and vhich miy ff
ditninifh the Nitmber of o«r PuV'Iichottfe^, (o t» t*
ihr Building of Birrtcki. or the Quartering of 5l
ppon private Hotifet, abTolotely ntccffjr^.'
Sis,
• As mi»ft of t!;c ArgomenH made t'fe of igJii
Oauff, now cffcrrd toyoo. htvc bern foonded npm ,
pA^lion. th;ittbe t^w, «5 it AaikJi St pre'cnt. doc* POT
Irr-krepCf} and other*, upon wkrtm SoWitri taijr h
fully quarcrcd, to 'urniHi tbrm wi»h Diet and Smalt
I (hall beg leave to ftew you. thtt the Ijw i»ott>»Twi|
ifcac what ti BowcRtrrd, h nothing but art Eip'aratwi
'Enfcrcnneni of what ha» been I jw ever fjott we Km
tft Aft ai 4 \furtny-Af* in ihi» K'tigHom.
• Sir, in o^drr to iii>d om oe Mr4ning of the Ijali
pow [l;ind», we murt not look to ibc (,''■'"*<: •'ff nhtij-ti
Owner* of Put'ir-hoofe* (ii rtctire the So'd'*''' Ut
quarreled Dp^n thefn, b^'Caufe iha( Claofir wu but l«tc
ffodtind, and mart be e»:p'a'n«) by the ether C'aii'r*
Bill ; twt He mutl ronfidrr what was aniienily nKanr 1
Term Qu4iicrin|;[ and if wr eonOder what wu lal
(ncant by Qdartettng. wc m"H conciude.ihar the Owi
privare Hoiife*, « well s» public, were obliged to (um
noldicn quifterrd upon thrip wiib evtiy thin* nK
accordtng m tf.ttte Rutei which were prefcrtbrJ h
Ctommiiwcr» cf the Troop* lo qmrremJ. Sefore tl
(tont:Ot>. we b^d no Tuch '1 hing a an Armv. or any f
froof*, bin in Tifsc of War; and (hen, i bclicrc, "
Geo.
( 1^5 )
Cttmri, tk« the Commanders wert the only Jo<Ige5,Anno i4t<S<
• fN- • -^" Ti were to Iw treatctl by thofr upon whom *'■ *740.
tend. If rhcy twd reidy Money wfacre- t-rV^*-'
IMS. 'u ^-t> uirir SoMien, ihey generally ordrrtd tbem to
K^f Munry for whii ibey had i but if they could not
•f Urtr Si>!dKTi. ihe Perfons upon wliom they were quar.
>«<r«itien ob!>[;fdi()rurni(h thrrrit nut only with Lodg*
|. Nnalfo w>[h D'c: and Small Bccr. and to bring :hcir
n !■ to ttic Public, in order lo receive SatiifaOion.
M tht Pn&ice in 'I'lm; of War, before the Reftora
: II wc brgm focn nficr thm Period to keep regaUr
is continuil P^y, and ai the Ofiictra of ihtfe Troopi
i» ta pf*/ltre in Time of Peace, whnc had been r^rmrrly
' ' m rill)'' 'if War. iherrfbrc, toward* ihe latter End
\ikfit Ch'i-!^ I I'i'i Reign, that Law which has been men-
'[HI* maJe, by which it war cnaAed, " Tint So'dieri
I'^Crrr^l Upon any Houlc whnit'oevei. without
'wrCT." Kroro the Revolbiion to the
" .1 wjf in a S»te of War, and prob.->bIy
■ yoierved; butiheTrarquillity of the Na-
I- f reilorcd, a new Law wa» made for regu-
[Qaarteting of SoMien, and for confiinnK tc wilh-
legal Bouuli. without leaving it id the PilVretioQ
lilUary Oi&i€t whitfocver.
tUi Liw, Sir, tlw Coaltubleand other Ciril 0<F-
l*ncrini«)wetcd to qnnner or billec Soidienupon Pub>
I, khJ uffin ihem only, and thertrfore had the bme
kied ihcRiby Law, which the eomtnflndingOfnrcra
^roept had furtncrly affumcd agiiinfl I^w ; that il to
t^ br ikeir b>:irting of Soldien upon Public houfei, they
iR R'ght to in&llBotonly upon I^ging, but upon
I Smati tirrr, tor what they could aAbrd for it out of
. . il'thcy received oo Pay, then the Hoofirs
were quartered were to keep an Account,
Actnunc* in to the Puhl^c, in order to re-
: and to prevent all Dil'puiei between the
laoo ifctir IjinJIordi, the Jullice* of the Peace were
[■ttd rmpowered to feiile the Raieiof all tuch Provi-
I wcrv fjraifbcd by the Laodlordi. I'hat thit was tbe
r-1 ;tif.:p, who fifll gave the Ccnfbblci a legal
eri: That by tiuariering ihcy intend-
I have Lniertatnmcm, as well at Lodg-
.;re iJiey were (o qu-utered. i*. I think.
iing that Power to Public-tiourcs only ;
iaa imended, ihit Soldier* (hnuld have nothing
jiog. at the Houfe were ihey were quartered, they
ruiplj IviTe given the ConfUblc Power to quarter
' froldieri
( i66 )
Annoi4.Gro.SoldiersaponaII Houfes that Icit Lodgiogi, 81 weU » opw
IL 1740. Inn-keepers, ViAunllerf, aud other fuch Houres. Aid tin
V.^^^'' ^^ CUufe inferted in the Mutiny A&, pafled id the Yctr 1(961
makes it evident, that it was then fuppofed, that tlic Owica
of Public -houles were by the Law, as it ftood before* ofalifri
to farDifh the Soldiers with Diet and Soiatl-Bcer i for if um
had not been fuppolcd, there would have been no Occafin
for inferting a Claufe, •< That Innkeepers QioalilDMhl
obliged to provide Meat, or any other Vidiuls, for any 8a^
dier legnlly quartered upon them, it they Ihou-d giveor M»-
der to fuch Soldiers 4d. a Day lor their SubfiOcDoi in Mnt
only, befides Candle, and the Ulc of their Fire for dlcfiM
Meat."
• How that 4d. a D.)y w.>s to be repaid to the Iaa-ke»
en, who did advance it to the Soldiers, 1 do not know i M
there is no C'aufe in the AA for ordering or regulating thi
Repayment of it ; but even fuppofe it was duly and regibriy
repiid, it was harder upon tlie Inn-keepers, than wblil
now propofcd i and yet I never heard, that it diminiflwd ikt
Number cfour Public-houles, or that any Inn-kccperor
Vifluallcr gave up his fiufincls upon that Account 1 m4
therefore, if the lamo Claule were to be revived, we (hoiU
have no Reafon to apprehend any fuch Confequeooe fnm JL
But, as our Army it, now regularly paid, we havenoOoafiw
to oblige the Owners of Publichoulies to advance aay ll»
ney to the Soldiers quartered upon them, or 10 giwaf
long Credit to fuch Soldiers, They are now, they baisiv
fevcral Vears been, obliged to receive the Soldier! lawMlf
quartered upon tlicm, In this Claufe, the Word lecHH
mull certainly relate to, and be explained by the Vmi
quartered ; ard if by quartering be meant the fomilbi^rfft
Soldier with Diet and SinaiNBeer, as well as Lodging) tkl
Owners of the Houfes where Soldiers are lawfully qoaneid^ J
•re already by Law obliged to do fo. In this Scnfe the Ur i
has been always, til! very lately, interpreted : itboiforaH i
ny Years been the Cuilom to furnifh the Soldiers with DiK ;
and Small-Beer, as well as Lodging, at the Hoiiki lAo* ':
they are quartered, and at fuch Rates as they were able W ;
pay. This, 1 Ly, has for many Years been a continued 0^ 1
torn ; and a Cultom founded on Law makes Law: Acidly 'i
Culiom is the beA Interpreter of Law, and fometinci MDi
Meanit:g upon the Words of a Law difierent from wW< .
iirlt View they Teem to bear.
* This being the Cafe, Sir, what are we now to do I 1h|
are not tosltenfae Law, or to cJlabliOiaDy new RrgnlttiM.
we arc only to explain and enforce what has been Law fcr i^ '
moft thcie forty Yean; and this we arc uUiecd todo^ fc|fci
( i<S7 )
)mc P*oplc have b«n lately picifed lorsife. Annou,Gc6.
It any Found ition, in order to prcvcni People's U i'«o.
ICnfeivc* to L«w-futia and Penaltici } for by ihe L/~V*\J
iiAadt t»w, the Owner of « Pablic-hoiile ihac jc-
fhrc aoy Soldier Uwfally quaiiercd upon him, ii
by the Juiticei, io a, Sum not excelling ;). nor
■ad conrrqucntly, if by rectiving be meant the
H of fnch Soldter with Lodginv. Diet aoC Small-
■ ft Day, every I Rnfcccpcr ibai iD'iIl refufe to do Io,
Bni'lfro tbat Penally, and the JufUcet niui\ line
^K SsMtcr urany ocber rerfuo cotnei to make the
lull jrui. Sir, thxc thU Doobi, whicb kai been To
Icflly ntfcd. niighl be determined by one Gogtt Law-
U. IB the mnn Inne, 2 great Number of People
[nfclret to the Penalties of the Law, and
■-f the Quefiion 10 Dirpiitfl w-ouM not free
am L£Qi£ J'ccaltici. but on Che contrary wojid ca.
I I**opIc Io prnlcctrt*. S'jppofe a LaW'finc wer«
•- Idfl-kceperthac hxd nfiCed to fur-
V quiiicrcl LpoD him. with Otettnd
Ikt it B LtiQi^i » Day i tltnt Ijtw-j'uit cou'd nm in
Hkuki be brought 10 1 ConLiufDn 1 iii the mna
^^^Ktier (nn-ketr^er) wouM refute in the fame
^^^Bb^-I^ Mt:i trr?pf to tsifik tbenirdvcB in the
ft* ' tfio Qucllion in DifptUe will be de-
Id :. ^ Then litppofc chit, upon the E-
'iUi Lao'uii. iilltould bedciermtned, th^t Inn-keep-
1" Uhcrt me tiv the Tjiw, II It Ftaodi ac prrfcr^t, cb!i-
. .juQi'tered upon them , with
- , . :, .j ; J u -> , Bod thai every Man who
clf lothe Penalty of thp Law. which, ai t
. .... w be impo.ed by »ny one Jallicc of the
13m the Complaint i» Blade, of 40^. orfonie
(r-"'f- ■- '.! Ill this (..'afc, every Inn-keep-
■■ity, bad lefiiled to rurnlfh the
' Sim. with Oict and Sitiatl-
' /, aiwl to be pc^etuled for
fiocii heoccfce. Sir, what a Nombcr of Profe*
WOttldocaiiAn; for. si thit Complaint mighf be
by iheSoWier. or by any other PeifonwhAtfo-
the Juiifcr ' 00 :i fitU Proof^ tnuft
M IttUI 401. « Pt J t:*fum1y be brought
ttrry Man tbit hiid tiitucrci^ :he PM»lty, cither by
l^itT that had been rernred wii«t be had by I.tw a
ludj «r by fomc cnviont Nrtghbui ' 1
sir }aha
Ihttiuird.
F.fta.
(168)
Tradefman. f therefore tliiok, thai what h now
cannot JO Charily be ztfuito. in onter to prevent Ptop-i
exp&fing tbemlelve* lo Ptoa!tic«, wtiich, in aiy OpmiM,'
WbuldcbflAJalr be recovctcd &£uall ittcjit.'
Sir John Baroanl.
Sir,
• The Hoflodfable Gentlemen who have appeared ••
Advocaiei far iKn. Claulc, l«eni to Ukw i gfc«( Co«cas
lor preventing tne People'* involving liierolcivrt m Liw
iaiui iod I mull (kf, they are taking a very tScAvi
Method lot doin£ ii ; for if whtil tbey yropotc OmbM ;
into R Law, the People that arc to be aSrAtd bjr k'
^oon have noibtrg to contend Tor, which, I fti:>B
mod <9e^ual Method for preventing iheir bcmg mi
anjr Law-luu «Utev«r. When the People are ult
done, I fliall admit, that ibis Clautc Mill have ihe
preventmg their being afirrwardi involved in any t.
bvt lilltticti, it tvilt have a quite con;r3ry \iihAi bot H
oblige ibc Owners of Pufalic-hDutes to fumifh lb« S9V
quaricrcd upon them with reakinable Ptovilioai, or '
£)iri xtxd Smitl-Bcer. untfer any Penalty 10 be recovend
tbjxoncor oiore Jullktto/ibe P^wc, ihcte will be pcrpctari
Difputct between them about <*hat i» called ■■■ > :. Ynfti'
ftoas, or realooaiile Diet and SniaD-Bccr. i ;t wiU
carry bi» Complaint before Tome Jullicc wkoR-> he knowi m
be in hii Intcrelh The Jullice will probably liixibc LAAdl«di
and the Liter willccrtamiy leekReltcf aga ofi wluthetkiiJD
an unjuft Senirncc, either by Appeal to ibcQunttnSctfMi,
or (erne trorc opcntivc Method. Thui, bir, thr 1
of our Public -boufei will at Ull be ui up, cither by tu .
Jicn or tbo Lawyerai and till then, the CUuls now fM*
poled ivill create, iollead of pieveniing Ijw Suin.
* Thii, Sir, will ccruioly be the Cuiirequcnce.if yoallf
lan-lueperi and othcrt under an rxprcfi Obligaiiun taki-
niO) ibe Sotdirtt qturteted upon tbcm with Diet arnl Small-
fiecrat4d a D.iy. Without any luch Obligation ilifv vil
alwayi do (o, when the Sotdicrt ate contend wuh t^
be Jurnifiied at that Price; they will evco futniGi
more, or better than whAt can be aAbrded at that i
order to make the Soldiers oify in their Quarter*; ^
Soldier will be latiif'-ed with what hU La&illord pru*
him, brcaufe he koowi, his Landlord lien under r.c t. . ._,■
lion to prvvide for him, and that he cannot pr(>v Je to* i s^
felf lb well i hot ifyou lay the Lantilord undrr an exptsi
ObtigaAon, he will never be able to f^tjify the Sotdien qM-
tcrtd upon bijo, ualcla be luuu bimklf by ptOMdisg !■
( i69 )
great iti) hcinr (ban on be alTcinlcd for the Price Anoo i4,Ceo^
unil liicD, tad ihui he mull be ruined ^^y^'^^^
V £'*"■;; iiic Soldteri much more thin he cm afibrd,
!i to prevent tlictr Compbin::, or \if giving hii Mo-
LkWTcn for defending him againlt theje CumpUtno.
KK Uicitfofc beTsiJ, ihic ihiiCUufe it calculated ^or
Iteg l^w-fuilt.and it itfoDtethirg very lUaogc toUy,
lui it saw picpofed u not lo grc:ie a Hardfliip n\ lite
moAed IB the Year 1696-7. I hope the learnd Gen-
doca not think, tfaat the iMocey then advanced by
rpen w» never icpsid: If tbit be iai'ilUd on, the
lutiviifl be rend, ia order 10 fee whether there wai
(d »hat Provifion for the Repaytneni o( that Money ;
H!I tto:, ] believe, be infiAed on : The whole ^vas cct*
tbc Government as foon ai poffible, and de-
e Pay due toihe refpe^livc Regimeoi*. Bj
• 'ore, the Landlofd only lay oat of bii Money
. :..;c, but loft BO Part of the Principal: By what
prspoI'Dd, he ii to be obliged to furoidi Piuviiiom to
lifier) lor 41). « Day, which colt him perhaps 6d. or
that Lc wiUcercaialy loft 50 or looftr Cm. of hii
«] Money ; and chti without (o mach u a Hope of
I the Infl Advantige, CaDtbi), Sir, be fa id to beibe
midlbip i U it pcfilble fur any Man zo think (0 f
lull gntkt. Sir, that Inn-keepert have generally pro-
H* tbe Soldiers ^luirieied upoo them, at luch Pricet at
■ere ible to pay 1 but I was furprized to hear the
'^ "- >min fny.that thi» Praflice made Law. The
rfj of Record may lometimei make Irfw : X
i; 11 ^fncTtlly look'd uponai fuch when it Aas coo-
tie lime (or a very long Time i but wiU <t be laid,
|e PnUice between a Landlord and bli iroMier cm
ttke Law .* It ii ac prelenc t Praflice, and i: tut long
li Caftoata Seuthnurk, among [bore who keep Live-
Mr*, to f'** the [)tagr>ooj quA'tered ti"! (Hem fo
iWetfci'. ■■rabljng*:' '^heit
WiU an) .1111 thit ['[ .^.ot
B Ovmcri ol tiicic S;ablei at i.i>w ai)lij;cd ii> do ia i
'rriftimg of Sn''i'eti with Diet and Small- l>eer haa
by the Inn-keepert. beomfe ihey were able '
1 ; thik Clau{« you wiU put an End to the Prac-
fattiic yoa will tender tt impoiTibfe lor tben to do fo
PBBift]t tbcmiclvei.
R> niX ;irctend, Sir. to be a Lawyer, bvt \ have con-
with fome tbal atv, and from them I have often
ibat rcatl SCBtuei are to be ilri^ly intcrprttcd : if fo,
vli Z I
ll-Ki-*-
( 170 )
Anno 14, Geo I am fure no Court ia the Kingdom would think itfcU em*
'i-N/^ powered to fine an Inn-krcper, for not furnifliing Dietud
^-^^f^*^ Small-Bccr to the Soldiers quartered in bis Houfe, by Viitae
of that Claufe which inBids a Penalty upon thpfe that ilttll
refufe to receive a Soldier lawfully quartered or billetted npM
him. Even fuppofe it {hould be hcreiifcer determined, upu
the Event of a Law-fuit, that receiving, mean;, fariiiQui|
with Diet and Small-Beer, which lam perfuaded it never will,
yet no Judge. I believe, would venture to fine a Man npN
luch a forced and ^r-fetchcd Conlliuflion, efpecially if tke
Refulal had preceded that ConllruAion's being put uptHi the
Word by any proper Authority. We have thercfon i*
Caufe to fear, that a Multiplicity of Law-fuits or pFofat-
tioni will be the Confequence of our refuilng the Ctaifa
nowcffered ; and if the Lawlhould be left fludingaa itim
prefent, I believe, the Innkeepers have ai little Rcafbatv
fear, thar, upon the Event of a Law fuit, the QaeftioD tnB
be determiaed agaioA them. But if it fliould, it would tin
be high Time to alter the Law ; for it would certainly bt
very hard co give the Soldier a Power of obliging hii Laa^
lord to furnifh him at 4.d. a Day when Proviuons happen M
be dear, and a Liberty to fiirnilh himfetf when ProrifioM
happen to be cheap.
I Ihall admit, Sir, that it may {bmetimei be very hard fa
Soldiers to live upon 4d. a Day, and, as Things are aanf-
ed, I believe, they have very little more to fpend. M
fucb Times they mult concent themfelvei with cotrfe Fm,
Bat at all Times they may fubfill upon 44. a Day. Tkf
generally do at a much cheaper Rate, becaufe half a Oo-
ZCQ or a Dozen of them ufualiy mefs together, and hlf
large Quantities of Provifions at a Time. The Maiiaa
did fo at Southampton ; and there, I know, they fobfiflBl
themfelves plentifully for left than 4d. a Day, tho' thK
Country is far from being tbecheapeft in this Kingdom, aor
was that a Time of any extraordinary Plenty. I can then*
fore fee no NecefiKy for the Claufe propolod, which I aki
to be a new and a very extraordinary Regulation ; and ai I
think it Ihould fLbjc^ the Public houfes in the KiagdoBli
great Hardlhip.*, and might be made a Handle for deftrof
ing the Lioenies of the People, I mull give my Ncgatin k
its being made a Part of thii Bill.
D.
Sir,
* As I was in the Service in King Wi!Ii.im*s Reiga, n
very well remember the Circumllanccr< tt.'^ Aim\ nu i
when the Mutiny .\ti, which has been fo often nwnuaai
( I70.
■ dui Debate, WIS paiTed, ( think it incumbent upon me Anno 14, Geo.
B p>c foa the Reafoo for inferting that Claufe, which gave ^^- >7f<^-
nOptian to Inn-keepers to furni^ the Soldiers qu^ircered
^Aem, with Diec and SmiU-Bcer, or to pay them 4d.
iDgr. Id ihit Reign, Sir, the Government wjs far from
hnv fe fliiQ) of Money as it has been fince. The Revolu-
tin Riflg in iti Infancy, there was but very little public
Cnfrt for People had not forgot the fhutcing up<cf the
^Khqner io King Charles's Reign ; and therefkfre, even
■fcrtliePu'tianieni had granted a Fund, it was very dilKjulc
IB honw Money upon it, fo that the Government was ver/
oAnwithout Money, and our Tro3ps here at Home were
wHBun for (everal Months without Pay. 1 remember
ikeRcgiaicnt I was in was called up to London upon the
Afifinaiimi Plot in the Year 1696, when we had been for
•i|bMonthi without any P^y, and at lafl wc were paid in
Kicbeqaer-Bills, which it was very d.fficult to get changed
woUoBCf, in order to divide it among the Soidicrs.
' I do not know, Sir, what the Meaning of the Law was
U tks TiiDCi or what it is now, for the Claufcs relating to
Ac Qninering of Soldiers are now p'etty much the fame
Aej «rre then ; but I very well remember, that the Houfei
■poo which we were quartered, never refufed to furnifh the
SoUien with Diet and SmallBcer, and it was then abfo-
Inriy Bccefliry they (hould do fo, becaufe the Soldiers, and
cmoatiy of the Officers, had no Money to go to Market
*iik,aDd could not therefore provide for themfelves. But
>■ Uny of the Inn-holders found great Inconveniencies in
finiUng and dreffing ViAuals for the Soldieis, efpecially
*^ ikey had their tloules crowded with other Company,
'^u this ojcafioned lome Murmuring, the Parliiment re-
w^nl to give them all pofTiblc Relief, and for this Purpole
I^Claule was inferted, which gave an Option to the Inn*
ko'Jtr, either to provide Vifluals for the Soldiers, or to give
l^a fd. a D*y to provide for themfelves, If they furnilhfd
Vifiuli they brought )n each refpeflivc Man's Account? if
ifco gave Money, they brought in an Account of what they
M advanced, and to whom ; all which Accounts were fct-
M by the Commanding Officer, before the Regiment,
Tnop, or Company left the Place where they quartered,
■d thcfe Accounts became a Debt upon the Government, and
WfC reckoned as Part of the Regiment's Pay. But it cannot
c fud that the Inn-holders loll nothing by this Method j for
w Money they advanced wai fometimrs a long while b^-.
«c >C was repuid ■ and as the poor Inn-ho!ders could
X alwayi w&it fo long for their Payment, they were often
iliged to (ell their Demands upon the Government at a
Z 2 very
( 17*')
Anno i4,CiCO.TO7 great Difcount , wbich is far from being the Cale at
II. I740. prefenl.
L^^^%J * Having thus, Sir, given you an Account of the Ciicna-
ftancesof the Army, and of the PraAice in King Willtua*i
Time, I mofidefire, that GcnClemen would conUer whatai
Inconvenience woiitd enfae, if it Aould be fuppoled. that H
Inn-Iteepcr ii obliged to furDiOi Diet and Smalt Beer to A»
Soldiers quartered opon him, and if, at the iame Time, «
fliould, by any Misfortune or Accident, be reduced to<he Ctr>
cumflances we were in during King Willian'B Re'^ : Ii
that Reign if Inn-keepers had fuppofed they were not obli-
ged to furnilh the Soldiers with any Thing but Honle-rDOfll
■nd a Bed, I am fure, the Troops, kept here at home, mdt
cither have ilarved, or lived by Plunder ; and as public Cre-
- dit is of a very pr:carious Nature, we fiiould be extreoielf
cautieusof cllaolifh ng or propagating an/ Maxim thatwodi
be atienctcd with great Inconveniences, and even Danger, tl
cafe our public Credit Qiould fail to, ai to make Jt impoftb
for our Government to pay the Troops kept at home paic>
tually and regularly.
* What the Lawyers may mean, Sir, by Quarten, I la,
no Judge of ; but among Soldiers we generally meaabf
Quarters, the Place where we are to have both Bed iM
Board for our Money, in cafe we find it neceflary to iiit
upon having both; and when we are fent to live npM tif
Country, without being obliged to pay Money for what «•
have, we call it Free Quarters, which is certainly a raf
great Oppreflion, and is feldom praAifed, but in an Enemy's
Country i but I cannot think it any great Oppreffion H
oblige thofe, who keep Houfes of Entertainment, to eats-
tain Soldiers, upon their paying duly for what they havi :
It is really ab(oIutely nccelEiry upon many Occafioni, b^
caufe Soldien are often quanered round a Couotry. fo tht
many of them are far from any Market- Town ; and u tbey
mufi be always at their Quarters, and ready at a Oil. it it
impcffible for them to repair daily to the next kbrjts-
Town, to buy Provifions for themfelves. Upon a Maidh
too, it will often be impoHible for the Soldiers to provide Ar
themfelves ; and therefore, the providing far Soldiers onm
a March, was made an Exception to the Option aUowcal*
Inn-keepers by the Law in 1696.
* A« to the Inconveniencies and Dangers we bave beea
fiighten'd with in this Debate, ihey do not at all affeA oa^
becaufe I take them to be all chimerical. Even BariKkii
which are here made (uch a Bugbear of, arc not in the led
fi ighiful to me, tho* I h%ve as great t Regard for the Libcttk
of my Country as any Gentleman in this Houfe. I conld un
( >73 )
teurt kow Kirracks can be thought inconfiAent with Annoi4.Geo.
berdcf of the People) for an Army of true £nglifh will II- 1740.
xdugeroui to Liberty, whether in Quarters or in Bar- L/'StN-V
ttd aa Army of Foreigaera woultl be 11 dangerous to
fia Qoarters as they could be in Barracks. I'he only
■ce is, that an Army in Quarters is much more ia^n-
liad troublelbme to the People, and the Soldiers not
f kept to their Duty, as when they are in Barracks ;
stfare, not only as a Friend to Uifcipline in the Ar^
cas a Friend to the People, I Oiould chufe to have our
lalwayj lodged in Barracks, when there is no Occa-
rkaving them in a Camp. But the People of thia
n lUTc been taught to alTociats the Idea of Bar-
Lid Slavery fo clofe together, that, like Darkncfs and
itil, tbo' there be no iNIanner of Connexion between
yet they cannot feparate them, nor think of the
ilhout cbinking at the lame Time of the other. In
I it was the fame, when Barracks were Jtril ere£led
The People coofidered Barracks as the moil hideout
I that could bethought of: they imagined they were
B downright Slaves as foon as thefe Barracks were
I yet now, they are perfeAly rccanctled to them, be-
liiey find they are rather more Free than they were be.
ad the Troops much lefs troublefome to them. 'And
icks were erefted in this Kingdom, I am convinced
■icqneace would be the fame: The People might be
. I little at firft ; but they would Toon find themfelves aa
before, and much left incumbered with Soldiers than
ere when the Army was quartered upon them i abd
mid from thence learn to feparate ihofe two Ideas
lie now, without any Realbn, To clofely connected in
tfiodj.
ir thti Reafon, Sir, if the building of Barracks fliould
f&& of what is now propofec', I Qiould think it no
fefl : I am prefuaded the Piopie would find it a very
ine. But, till Barracks are builr, the Soldiers moll be
red, and as it often happens, and whilll they are in
ra mad often happen, to be impoflible for them to
B for themfelves, tbey mull be provided for by thofe
whom they are quartered, at fuch Prices as they are
pay. If they Ihould demand a greater Quantity, or a
!bn of Vi&uali than can be afforded for what they are
'pny,the Landlord iinot obliged to comply with their
idl, nor it the Soldier, or his OlHcer, but the Civil
nee, to be the Judge ; becaufe, if the Soldier fhould
himfelf not fufficientty fupplied by bis Landlord, he
I Kedrefj bat by a CompUia: to the neighbouring
Juftices
( J74 )
Ar)noi4iGMjaRice( of Peace, and they only, are to be Jadgei bctwm
^- '740- bim and his Landlord. From hence, I ifainlc, it is eridcK
l/V^J that this Claufe cao be attended with no Oppreffion, En«
tion, or Exaction i and as it is in many C^fes aUblnd]
Decenary, 1 therefore hope it will be agreed to.'
Mr. Pulteney.
S I R,
Mr Pultenev * ^' *'* obliged to the Honourable Geotlemtn fijr «
'plaining to ut the Meaning and the Reafbo of the Claoflii
King William's Time, whereby Lahdlords were obliged b
iiirnilh the Soldiers with Meat and other Vifluali, or to gtr
them 4d. a Day to furnilh ihemfelves. 1 he Neceffitieti
our Government, the Barennefs of our Exchequer, the In
State of Public Credit, made It abfolmely necefl^ry foroB
Parliament at that Time to agree to fuch an opprcffive Ei
pedient: But that very Expedient fhews, that we ought H
to agree to what is now propoted ; it fticwi that when Sol
dicrs have ready Money, they may provide for themlelvct,
and therefore, now they have ready Money, weought ootli
oblige iheit Landlords to provide for them. We may, iti
true. Sir, be agiiin reduced to the fame NeceOities we laboMl
undyin King Willinni's Reign : A waAcful Miniller, wk
thinks cf nothing but the Period of his own AdminiliratiN
may fwecp the Exchequer clean ; and if we take no Caic|
pay off, in Time of Peace, the Debts we are obliged tocoottlfi
in Time of War, our public Credit mull at lall fink if IN
as ever. If MiniHert in Timeef Peace convert to the cunti
Service, thofe Funds th^it were fct apart for paying off a>
Debts, in order to conce;«l from the People their Prodigality
or the needlefs Expences they put the Nation to, Pcopie M
begin to fu re fee the Diftref:) we mull be dtove lo, u fta
as a heavy War happen^ ; and ihofc tliat are wife, will hepi
in Time to draw ilicir Fortunes out of our public Fn^
This will diminifh by Degrees our public Credit, and at bl;
when we have the grcateil Occafion lor ic, wc fh;ill probibl|
have none left. Thdc fjcal Ciicumftanccs we Aiould nhi
care to prevent by our good ConHufl ; but furcly, the Dw
ger of our falling into tticle Circamllancei can be no Rnfcl
for fubjeibr.g any Part of the People to fuch Hardfliipl, ■
canbe julUfied by nothing but fuch Ncce(It:ies.
* I fiiv. Sir, fuch Hsrdlliips as can be julliried by notUtf
but futh Nccefltties : But in the prcfent Cafe I muft gofel
then I mull hy, that what is now propofed, can be joftiCl
by no Necciliry. It is a Hardfhip to obliges free-boraSri
je<ft to receive a LoJger into his Houfe, whether he vQlt
iio; but tiis aninlulftiableHardthip to oblige him to piovii
ai
( 175)
bViftftilsferhii Lodger, whethfr he will or no, and Arno t4i(ieo.
X too, which he does Roc approve of.v This, Sir, is 11.1740-
flup, which the Parliameot wou!d not, we find, agree 'w^'YXw'
I ia the Year 1696, noiwithllanding the Neceffities
Htrnincnc was then under; and the Exception then
vith regard to Soldiers upon a March, was not be-
hi So'diers could not provide for themlelves, if they
nfiuniOied with ready Money, but bccaufe they were
LiiAat one Place, dine at another, and fup at a third,
! Proportion to be advanced in ready Money for each
ither than itirniOi tbein with it, could not be adjuQed
ItlBUDt.
t this of providing and drefling Vifluals for the Sol-
re ire told, cannot be fuppofed to be a Hardfbip, be-
bu been prafiifed, and Inn-keepers have fubmittcd
r forty Years palt. Sir, whilll wc had but loor
I McD of regular Troops in the Kingdom, molt of our
cperi lubmitted willingly to this Hardlhip beciufe
ire but feldom expuled to it, and when they happen-
i fo, they could bear the Expencc and Trouble, be-
bcj bad but few Soldiers quartered upon them : but
e have near ^.o.coo regular Troops with: > the King-
he Hardfhip is fo frequent and fo heavy, that it is im^
'for tbcai to bear it. The moll proper Method, there-
tr having this PraAJce continued, is to diminifh the
roF your Troops kept at home, and this, [ hope, will
m be done i for if this War continues, ( hope a
hrt of our Land^Army wiil be lent out to attack
tmy i and if the Warfhould be ended by an honour-
my, for by no other Sort of Treaty it can be ended,
Vit may be fufpended, I hope his Majefly, out of his
i AHtAion to his People, wil! difband a great Part of
D/teven tho' the Parliament Ihould not defirc it; for
C2pe£t. in my Time, ;o fee z, Parliament defiringan/
ibit may fecm tobediln^reeabie to a Miniller.
w PraAice in Times palt is'ihcrcfore. Sir, no Proof,
e provii!;ng and drelHng Viftuajs for the Soldiers is
duup upon thofe, who fubmitted to ir, whilft it was
ricr than they could bear ; an'' as Iit:le is tt a Proof,
i Meaning of the Law is lucb, as a learned Gentle-
I been pleafed to reprefent ; or that the obliging Inn-
I by Law to do what they have done without Law,
le attended with no Inconvenience. It is this very
that has made it poQible for them to do fo. Jt is
iC being obliged 10 provide Vlftuals for the Soldiers
sd upon them, that has enabled them to provide i be-
w SoUien contented chcinfelvej with a litUe more
tbaa
wall
ind
bM!
( *76 )
Annnt^, Geo than ihty could iSori for the Monry : If jrOQ lay llini
U 1740. dcr a legal (l^ligatJon la do lo. the Soldien will
k/V^^ (q eafily f<»u;6(5. They arc not Hour rtfiJy CatiiM
myicif law once in tnirelling, a very good Didbct
ai an Ihd ia [he Country, whkh, I wat told, wm '
fix OragTOoni quartered there ; I thooght it fi
much bcticr Company, aqd yci the Dragooni, I
were nof I'ari^fied with it. They do not kiwaya con
wbea they aie oot pJcifed i but they grow mirctiicvoot
cut the Linnen. margle the Plate* and the Difhcs, a
nuiny other Tricks by which the Laodtotd luflert :
Trick* they would prafllfc in a more eitravaMni
and moch ufioer, if you Ihould a^tcc To this Claufe
would Boi go 10 a Juliiceio complatn for want of V
but by [uch Methods tliey would force their
compiAin of ihem, and he could compliio to bodc
0£cen. Wbtllt they know, ihat their IjuidloH
obliged to fiiioiOi them Viauati, they will gcatailAf
within feme Bounds ; but if you rerobve this Oicck*
will ejccetd a I, uhich will of couife taife fuch Dii
as any endanger oar Government.
* Ai f .-(n a Knend to our prefenl EllablilhtneBt, X
be for lov Kxpedieni, which I think the Sobjetl can '
Ai fuch, I Ihailalwayi be for preventing, a} much M
bte. any Occifion lor Mutiny in the Aroir, Oi Jbf
lenta among the People i but I fhall never be for
latter Jor the kke of preventing the fonnrr,
eiKlanger our prcfent happy BlUbliQunent, ot
upon m a numerom StaRding-Army. Let ui co
that we arc net now upon a Bill for raifing Mooif
public Service : Agaioll fuch Bills, 1 think, yoa Ittfc
down ai a Rule, that no Petitions ate to be rtcctvcdi
hope you will not I'ay, that no Petitions are to b*
agaiolt any Ctaufc m this Bill. The Ctaufc bow _
will ceruioly have Petition! agaiofl it from moft Parts
Kingdom: The Petttionen mull be beard: By thi>
(he Bill naji be loll, or delayed till after the Msti
iMw fubfUtin^ be expired. What Confufioo «
breed in your Army i The Regimeati mull all d
would be a iort of High Trciion to keep them loseUcT)
to cxcrcite any miitia) Law ia this Kingdom.
• It thii. Sir, a Krik to be run, for ths Uk* of
an Alteration in the Law, whkh Experirncc ku
Army miy fubfill well enough without f I fay. aa
tiOB in the Law : for aotwithttanding the Measing p«t
the Word Quanc'ii, by the Hooounblc Gttukma&
ipoke tattt Bad by tha Icinird Genilcmu who fptttar'
r *7n
•fttfe kin, I oidA inlifl. that in thii Country, the Word Anno i4«Ge<r
m igDifiesno more than a Lodging as convenient aa .11- ■740-
l«Mr«Fthe Houfe can afford. The Soldiers may, tV\"*V
p, cfaiik. that it liketvife implies all necef^ry Provi-
vfach Prices la they can pay for them ; but Soldiers
btn Notion*, and annex Ideas to Words, that are very
ElMiwith the Laws of this Country, or with the CoD-
■ of any free Gorernment. In this Country, how-
na the Saldien have not yet formed fuch a Notion of
an: At leatt here in Weilminller, they have not; for
Inrer defire any thing more than a Lodging at tile
•hoc they are qnartered ; ncr has any of our Mu-
Ifii (inni them EncoarrtgeRient to expe£t more, ex'.
Ik in [696 ) and aa that Law was the ESeStof Ne-
i1t iMM aa-fooa as the Necelfity was over. It may,
^ be Bccefliry, now you have fo grrat an Army on
btblige Idttdlords to fsrnifli the Soldiers quartered
iloiwith the Ufeof their Fire and Kitchen-Utenftls,
ifing ibd eating the Provifions they purchafe for
eheii bat even this you ought to take Time to confi-
I kit an Army is a dangerous Tool to play with : Ic
IDC to be bandied rafhiy by thofe who have a Regard
hliibtrliea of their Country.
fall rodily'^agrce, Sir, with the Honourable Centle-
ku In Amy of true Engliflimen can never be danger-
Xibei^i becaufe they would dilhand themfelves,
kcjr loaiKl they Oioutd be of no Service to their Coun-
Iqp wotftd' fcom to put their Country to the Expence
MtniDg them, when they knew ic had no Occafion
V Servitt. Bat when bad we, when fliall we hava
t'Anny 7 An Army of EngliQimen has once already
Ml tbe Liberties of this Country, and would proba-
n pcrpe&iitcd the Tyranny they h.id fet up, if their
ibcootd hive agreed among themfelves ; for it was
Anny, but the Difagreemem among Cromwell's Gc-
■ftcr his Death, that brought abonttKe ReDoracion of
iMfmncmt under King Chitrles II ; and in the late
faffles's Tine, it was not fo much the Army, as the
ggotry of that Prince, thatbro'jght about the RcvoIli-
Br if the -Army had feen, tiiat they were to have
« Miniftera of that tyrannical Governoient he had fee *
f mnld probably have fupported him in it ; b^t ihey
U even ifaey themfelves were to bs the Slaves cf his
•ad therefore many of them joined in divciljng tiim
uWirary Power, which the Army in general had ai-
■ieMODMged him to aflume.'
nil mat,- Sir, we hod at that Time the good Lu:k to
Vil. A a hive
( i7» ) ,
Annoi4,Cco hive fcvertl great and enuneni Pairiots, who had ronfidrTV
11.1-40 bli Intcifft ard Cooimandi m ihe .Arm)" : By their KU
^-^""V^^^ SptfUif Liwtty ard Patriotiiin WM pfffeivcd in the Al
but il X biii bo; bcrn fcr the open acd notorious B<g«
ibc Prince, 1 ita alraud, it^cir Endcsvoiin»ouU) b>*e{
iaefft^u&l. ThCjFWOulil piQbablj' thcnilcivcj have joif
Frmcc ttf Oringe it bu JAncing ; boctKry muli hk*c^
firgW aiui ft'uivci and in tuat Ln!e tticy Ri'gbt, in all.
bility. have fal'cn Vitiims to tbtit uwn Honour nA\
Love For ihtir Ccanir)' I hope, uc ktrc Ilill maof <
PSccri tit cur Aimy : 1 hope there it All! a $p:it oi
ty amocg the Soldiers i but whoever conCdcn (he mUt
TbuttoFmcll Men after Power, ihe HArih of CooipABy
Convcrfitioa upon 1 Mis't vviy of thinkieg, and the r>pii
Progiels of MArdil L<w. ir.ull conclude, it at A oumiibM
fiandioE Army, evco al n^^cioaal Troop?, W'liether in Qsv
icrsonn Buracki, is abl'olutely incorMecii wuh a tree C4
vtrnmtoc, efpccully where the modelling scd ccmiaittJaj
of that Army depccdt eniirely, ai it doci in thia KiA| ' —
Upon the Will of ooe fine> Man.
• It muit be admitted. Sir, that a fiatuliag Amy la '
tet} wilt atwayi be more ttcublcrcinc to the Pcot^lr,
ilanding .Artny in Barracki ; but for ibts my Rc;Jo« I ftiJ
■Iwiyi be for kcrplrg our Army in Qoar[en,''ih»i tfccpi^
pie maybe fent'ible cTibe Fctieo, \^bicb are preparing 61
them, before foch a Number can be forged, u nuy he taf
cient for (hackling ihcm clofe down totfacGrouml. Tlj
People have fliil a Power to prevenr, or put ao EodMllj
keeping up of too nuinrfous ati Arm) : and f iif* 1
alwayi think of exeiciluig ibit Power btfute it be
'I'btt ibcy may do fo, I am for keeping our Amf
View, by ha»i»g the Soldtcr* quartered among
tbc S<jldicr» were all kcrc in Buracks, the People
infcnfiMeof their Numberi, and n<ght not, perhip,
of reducing them by I^w till the Army grew U>i
root, and became fo dofely united, u co be able
port ilCclf againA Law. Therefore, Sir, whatever
may be to Discipline in the Army, which, barring Ri
we have had no great Oceaiian for thefe lutoty Vc
whilil J am a friend to the People, I QuiJ ihittk nyf
ged lobe bgatalt cttAing fiarrackt, and every
may in the IrtH coairibuie towards in hcirg nrcel
to ctrA any (uch ; and coafcqucotiy, 1 moll be aj
Uaufenow propofcd.'
Atljouiited Uic fanbcr Confidirition ttU TharfdavJ
Ordered, I hat the proper OfBccrs do lay bcfdl
littuitt ui Account of what PrrToni wcrt aothariicd
■4
(179)
kt Mifdiy QuMn Aanc, under her Ro/al Sign Muual, Annoi4,G«0'
vtv tW Cammiflioocn of ihe Arfmiraily, ta recti re antt ''■ •74'*-
taaatit tach Somen and Srafiring Men ai DiouM be taken ^^""V"^^^
vp'ufarfit*octo(tn\0, 4ih Queen Anne, for ihe Encourage-
cjukI IncrHfeof Scamrn.and furcbe better and fprcdier
•iae her Mtjrily's Fleece: And alfo what Application*
rBMc by ru«:ti Pcrfoos to the Jofliccs of ibc Peace, lod
r chief 0£cert, for cauftng privy Searchei (O be made
parfiiioce of the Ciid AA i and an Arcounc uf the Nutn-
3 of Seaaco which were rcturnrd ra ihr Navy In purfuance
txb Applicaiioni and privy Ss&rchei ; md likcwtl'e the
kaijc jccc^ding the fatne.
Tke z^ch. Agreed to the Report of the Bdl to prevent
IJneeBTcatencie* trifing by I>eUyi of Caurci af.er Jfloe jotn-
1, witji fcrrial Aneodnenti: Ordered it to be engroired.
Knxtvedaa Account ihcwing the Progref* of the Colony
if Georgia in America from lu firll Elt.ib1i(hmeQt. And
[;efKraI Account ordic Trulleei foreflablilhing the
,4-.. lay. ofi.ll Maoicsaad £ff(^ received zDil expended
nj thn rrom the 9th of June, 1732, (tbr Djte of (heir
spcrr ) to ih? (jtfa oF June, 1 740, u q^ibited purftunt to
1 iMrcAioB of tticir Charter *.
V- ■ -'^ Rcvciveda Petition of the Cothien of S:roud-
ircflerfhire. complaining of feverjl greit Abufci
«rol(icrd,aod particuUrly of the Licence lakea by
iKooi orfettiflg up in the Ctotbtftg Trade, without
J nikcr fcrved a lawful AppreniiceQiip to the fame, or
flag proper Skill in the Manufi£lure i and therefore
>'e tniy be given to bring in a Bill for the
n of the Clothing Trade; that foch fur*
■.KKt-tt irj> be given ai to the Houfc Ihill fcem meet.
to ihe Commiticc of the whole Hoofc on Wool,
Read a Uiird time, and pailed the Bill (0 prevent Iikod-
!S4ar>n anfing ftom Dela/sof Ctufca after IflTae joined ;
\Orirft6 n to the lAitii.
Rnd a fecoiwJ time, Bill 10 esplaia an Ad i3th Qtteen
Bw, (or prov;diBg a Reward for the Difcovcry of the Loo-
Jltalr. ire.
lo a grud Committee, went tbro' the Bill for pUfiiJliiag
Moisy aad Deferlioo, with feveral Amendmenuf .
A a 1 The
J S^mkir ffCofiit ait vdtrti t» hi prittttlftr tht Vj*
tit* MmUe$. + ji nev: Cis0/t •wamdiii.^n* Ifatg
( i8o)
A tino 14, Geo ■ The zjih. Read a fecond time, a Bill to expltia fe aiak
II ■'40 of an Ad6[h of King George I. for the better fecuriogceh
V^^^^N*/ tnin Powers and Privilegei intended to be grmoted b^ his Mk
jelly, by two Charters for Afliiraoce of Shipi aod Merchaa*
dizes at Sea, and for lending Money upon Bottomry t nd
for retraining feveral extravagant and unmrrantablc Prafii-
ces therein mennoned, as relate to the extravagant and n-
warrantable PraAicei therein mentiooed, which gaTc Rife ts
the following Debate.
Six John Burniird.
Sir,
V^ J"*!" ■ ' There cannot be brought before this Houfe inyQiict
fijrnivl. ^jQ^g more difRcnlt in themfelres, more entangled with 1
Multiplicity of Relations, or more perplvxM with an endlcft
Diverfity of Circumltances than thofe which relate mco«-
mercial Afiiiin ; Af&irs on which the molt KxpertMc'd ofaa .
difagree, and on which the moft Sagacious may deceive tbca*
felres with erroneous Conjedures.
' There are no QucAions, Sir, which recjaire Co aiadl
perfonal Knowledge of the SubjeQ to which they rebie, aor
is there any Subjcfl with which fo few Gentletnca in ikii ,
Ho-jfe have had Opportunities of being acquainted. That
arc no Queftions, Sir, which their Variety of RelatioH tt
different Perfona expofes to be fo eafily mifrcprefcnted witi- .
oat Dete£lion. nor any in which the Oppofition of paiticilV ' -
IntereQr, fo much incites a falfe Reprefentation. In aB iWi
Cafe.*> Deceit is eafy, and there is a ilrong Temptation to 4»-
ceiTc.
■ Nor are thefe Queflions, Sir, always perplexed by ii>
lendonal Fraud, or falfe Affertioni, of which they tbit onsr
them are themfelvei confcioui.
'. Thofe who deceive us, do not always fupprefs any TvA .
of which they are convinced, or fet FaAj before us in iif
other Light, than that in which themfelvei behold tbeai
they for the moA Part err with an honefl Intention, and p»>
pagate no. Millakes but thole which they have themMm
admitted.
' Of this kind. Sir, are doubtlefs the Meafures propcfcj
jn the Bill before u*, wbich thofe by whom ihey are fit-
moted, may eafiiy think to be of Benefit to the Public. IM
whick,
n '
fatnifi} fhm nfy luith CanJits, Vintgur and Salt, Mtd AmtM
Bnrw Cydir, three ^arts a Dajgratii, and t» ^2t9W thm
Firt and UUnSis /tr Dreffi^o and Eatitg tbtir Uimti ar *j|
t^it 4^. ptr Pitta, anJ/ad tiim in tvtn Tbii^,
!J
( i8i )
, will apfNtrtiie iUfttii o^ inptrfcQ Viewi, AnnoM.Gfio.
iO.
AmduDcniAl Error. Sir. of tb« Patient
to be an Opinion, thit the Pmflice of
known toother Nations, oar nn be cBrrio]
Place, and fmm Ihiit Prinriplc they deduce
which, if they iverciacviubly ccrtiin. mighi
ai to an immediate Approbation of the Bill.
Iw feauc oar Commerce, ami diOrcfs our Ene-
lode. Sir, with (ufficient Jiiflftefs. that very
would baunl tiieir F.irtunet in long Voy>
iAilH Comncrcr, or expote thrmrelire» to the I^n-
Ur, without S:ciirity.V(hicb Inturincci afford them.
tg perluaded thrmlelves that fuch Security ii to he
Emm DO o:hcr Nation, they tmagioe that we mighr,
Uting rt, coafine all the foreign Vdfcli in their
WdirAjr by ore Refoluttoo the Trade of both our
Vour bnenliea.
:our Ejlt-lodian Campflnjr may defiretbe Ratifici'
Bill, I cmnot deny, hecaDic ihry might perhaps
it lotne temporary Advitiuge by the (tuirt ln<
rluch thofe whom thry car.ttdcrastheEneiniefl
loierce would feci from it. They rany dcfire
thiant, if it &li,u it mu().c:iDBot injure
cccedi, oiiy produce great Advaniages (o
kT wtfh ii. bccaufe ibey will Feel the icnmc-
ind the Detriment will fjll opon otbcn.
, cnquir* whether our Mcrclianti are inclined to
■lervlcnceon ail itiofc who culiivaic the ttmc
Coinmcrcc with themfelKs, tho' they have
^iolatinn cf luUuraJ Righti, oor the iofringc-
' :a compIaiD of. I fhtnld be uo-
ih .\terchsnt, whole Acquaintance
loa ot ait own Couairy ought id ihewhim
.af Liberty, who ought lo be above narrow
the Knowledge which hit Profclljon cnabtet
o( a Dcfitc (g oscroach upon the Righu of
Bgiolj ibc gMcnl Benefit) of Nuute,3nd(hili
It fevcral other Nations can pledt! a Claim
3tu Trade « CUim of ei]«utl Va:i<iity with
'^" Dane* have their Sc;tlemcm» there, and
JifcovereO ihe way to ihore Regions of
MHicu fonie perbap are inclined to exclodc
b more vain than CO atiempt to exctoda
IE to cnfve ihtu Ships, bccaule the Opintoa
tbil
m
( i82 )
AnnDi4.Gce ilat t>i«y can be infored by ni>«herN«ti<mUti«irei)i nab-
II 1740. mut Foundation. There are, si (hit Time. OSco of l»t^
^/V'^NJ """ "'""g '*" wt»t>le tr»*fl <^f ^^' MidUod Set, UH*|
the Dutch, and even among ihe French- Nocktagcsadctar
any Nation from the Tude of Infunnce bot the Wik sf
Money, and thsi Money ii. not wanted b/ Forei^Mn, Isf
this Purpofc, afpeats frnm the great Sunn which iWy bift
depofited in our Fandi.
• Thai (hi) Tr^de i» now carried on. chiefly by ih" N»-
tion, iho' not fotel)-, ii inconceQible 1 but wliai can K--
led from that, 'but ihii we ought not to obHruti <
Gain; that we ought not tom»l('a L»w to deprive ou^i.»o
of that Ailvaniagr, of which either favounble AccidciKi or
our own Sagacity have put ui in Pollcffion.
• FflT thii Rcafnn it appeari, th^t it would not co«tr%sf»
10 (be Wraith of the Public to dcbir ui from mGir
Ships, even cf thrvfe with whotn wrirc at Wm, (or
ways to be remembered that they wilt receive lu) Detrwas
from foch Prohibitions, nor will ferl any othet Conlr^aeiC*
from ihcm than a N'eceflity of trantferring to Cone UhO
Nation the ProJil which wc receive fran it.
• What the Profit it which arifci to the Nation from tft*
Tnde of Infurance, it ii not poflib'e extAly to detcriDia*.
bat that the Trade it really advantagiouf raay be rcafontWf
conceived, becaufe after many Years ExperieiKC it ii itU
gently followed, and a l^w wm never neccfTiry to prtkkAal
cht Purfuit ol a Bufinehib)' which nothing u-ai to be pia«i
But could the Gain of the Inrurer be a doubtfvl PotU, t^m
is a crrratn Advantage to the Nation by the Mosey paid (at
Commiflinn. Brokcnige, Stamps, and the Credit <rf (be Pit'
nium depcf):ed here.
• I might add. Sir, another confiderahlc Sum yctrlyitii
ing to the Govemnwnt frt>m the additional Letter*, acn*
iionrd by thi» Trw'e, which incrca^'e the kevfr.oe* of ikc
foltC(Bre, without any Dedu^ioo for additioul Cbargc
• That the LtA). of this Progi. sod the Gaiat>f ivUntp
will enf'jc npon the Rati6cattarn of this Bill, ranaot be »
nirdi nor doci it appear, that this Lofi will bf co<incA»
laoccd by any Adnotaget that Will be pined ovcrMT fb*
rail or our fcr.rmio.
• Wfinfacr thit Bill, Sir. would prpdijceto ihf McrdbMD
of that City by which it is promsicd, the Advantage! whiik
ihey cxpeA from h, or remove any of the Gnmnce* rf
which thrv complaiit. I am DOtabkpoCitircIy todctuatMi
bat know, thtt it it not uncoramot) for Meich&r.:*. a* well •>
other .Vfcn, to coofjDgd privair with piibUc GncraBcei.acl
to ivagtiic theii ot»D lotcicfi the latercfi of (he Nuioi.
( IS3 )
• \(iihrt^r<), Sir, to ib* Praflice of infoxiog, fnteftilAnnoi^.Geo.
■M li^ered, at the Term i*, when an imagina/)' V'aJue is **■ ''***•
an ibe Ship or Ci/go. often much ibove in real \-/'YN^
i.d£iBOot betJcnjcd, (hit fome Opptmunttin may be
it for wicked PiaCliciM. Butlneie will alw<:y!i be
iiAaiXM in which ihere can be no Security ag:iiRil
bul commcn Faith ; nor do 1 fee how wr cnn lecure
ifrfoiert agntoit the Pcffibiliiy cT being JcfiatK^cd.
I caanot miicEfi liikayer, Sir, how ibii Mtlhtd cf Id-
— ^ " •■ - f rrrrnced ; for how can the V'ainc of a Cargo
A'btch it to be coltc^cd in a long Voyigr, at
i,iL>, aikj where the Soccefi of the AdvcDturcs cf-
:ntj| Dpon luclcf Accidtolf, which are trtj«d alwafl
for, bet fcMcm happen. An imaginary Value muft
foM be £xcd upoo, Hhca the Ship Icavei the Port ; br-
ibe SucuU cf that Voyage cannot be foieknown^ and
coatn^ing Psrliei may Le fiifel/ irullcd la fct that
' i>i any Law to Jireit or retrain ihcm.
rrtb^itt* .''tc oppitlTed by any pccuRar IncOR-
[ . .', .f. 1 ^Mfl find mcani uf rcdrcffiiig (hem without
■ ^ ;■ - -c Coromerce, miy I'topolal for that Por-
Ji^at 10 be U^cuttb'y r(c<ivcd( bur ai the Bill now
.-i -t f?ropof« general krflronD, and propofeifo reirove
' ;. aie not fcic, by Kemedie*, which thofe,
■ 'le 10 operate, do not appiore, f tluok !c
[ht MM Id bt rtferied (D a Committee, but rrj«Acd.*
Mr. Soatbovir.
S I a,
I • Wbeo I firfl prcpofed this Bill to ih« Houfe, I lamer-tcd Mr SouttwU
•V^ it-'r-ft of that Honconble Genfletnan, frctn wbof*
.r.t and ATgumrot! J cxprAcd great (r.fotmatioa t
«>■- -f^' Juugiocnc, mail conmtrcul Qiiellioni, I bavt
titc -lecni. *i hit Penctritioo not only rn«b'it him
diit.'.-ir IDC CoflfniiMDcet of MeitK)di which have net
bee« tried, buias fait extcs&ve Ac(]U4iatai)ce with many
locbc* fif Tttdr, Cannot but hive infotmed bim of the
fiaf many EcpcdicDii t'ted, at well in other NatiOci
I oatvU'-n, [or the AdvaiKCcncnt of it.
Traiif, Sir. it a Subjefl, cf which it h»l been jafily ob-
'^t reiy few Gentlemen hkve aitainrd Know'edge
: JO qialiff themretves to jji^gc of the Propriety cf
|-t»tw Regulation; aod I cannot buicc<nfcri. ihat I have
■aet-nuBQft .Skill in thefc QucUicni. What I have to
rffcr 00 iKit OcoiJud. bat been fuggciltd ;o me,iiotfotnach
i^hj ny tiwn Obleivaiicnt, ai by the lotLUigeoce which I
Mbsvc very todiiJItMully foDgbt, ard by whitb, at I endea-
^^^ yourej
11 \7V3
( tU )
Aftnft#4,Cep. vrtored to wquireof thofc whoTe OpIft*n wai Iei(! Ukdy X
bcpcrrertpd by their iBtirrell. I ho]* I kavc Ddi been miM.
• The MerchaDtt. Sir, to whpm it Jut hetn my ForW
to appljr, liive gtserally concurr'd lo :hc Opinfon that Ac
pr«fent Prafliccof Infurtng, is ptrjudteiat to t>ur ConawiCit
nor have 1 found any D1fagr«cnicRt between my CobftitMam
knd the Traders of the great Metropolis.
' I am unwilling to inugise tlut ttiere clo be wbj EriL
for which the Wifdom of thii Affembly cannot diicti^tT i
Rcniedjr, and am thrrefori; c*f OpinioD. tlut iftbe GrienMi
IS real, foDie Expedient naay be drf(.over<d Tor retnovi^g <
afid Ihat it is teal, I cSnnot bat be confinced by thefiKvA-
ticnaorromaay Men. U-hocan hire no Intcrcn ja cmrpUft
ing when tbcy fuSer nothing, and whofe k-bwfn AWiiii
exempt them from the Sufpicion ofinputiug any Putctf
their Uneafimrri to a Ciufe which cannot prodsce it.
• The Bi'l before t», Sir, requires, in ray Of^ien, &HM
AmeDdnicntt. and in its preTenc State, inight, prrlupt. pto-
d(K« more Decriment than Advaitt?ge, but /ini:c it )i secefi-
ry, ni leaf), to atxmpt (bmeihmg for the Reiki of Mn fa
otcful to this NadiD, it appears n> me necrBary to foftn a
Committee, uid to deliberate on this SubjcA with noreA^
tcntUQ.
' Thsugh I am liot of Opiaion iha: the Bill ta tti pftfial
State Ought to be patTcU into a Law, yet I am fiir from ihitk*
it lb imperfed as not cifily to be amaridcd, and ibetciwtM
defiroiji that it Ihould be conftder'd in a Committee.
' I have not, iDdeed. Sir, often obfcrved, chkt Bttti tojf-
drciouAy drawn up at firli, h;irc received great improrvaicBa
from a frcond Conftderaitoo, and have found i: mareeafy n
form I lew Bill, ihan !0 mjke Alteration in one that ii Ijiid
before 01 : fot fame original Error will couimonly rcmaia. uA
the Sentimemi of different Men, purfuing di(&reni Vie«>, <n
feldom be modelled into cnc confident Scheme. Bui I aa
brfrom confide.'ing thiiBilt, as one of thofe thatciaiiM bi
ainenJcd, fut I can ditcxivei bui few Ob;e^oni to the Rff»-
laitonsptopofcd in ii, anJ thofe not rciaung lo any of (he ci-
fcncial Pjr». but flight and circumfUnDal, luch aa wiU xJOig
be removed, or perhaps anfwered.
* The Grievance, Sir, for which thii Bill propofe* ■ 1^
medy ii (o generally known, and fo ontferfany laoieetei.
that, 1 believe, there is not any tltinc more worthy
Aneniion of the Legifliiure than an Biujuiry ipto ttr
orir,Md the propa Method of rcdrcSiiig it.
• U
isr Eaqtiirv loto (be Oufci of thii ObflnifUoa ol Anno 1 4, Geo.
I am o( Opinion. Sir, ib»t cSe Pnfln,c of Infuring. 'L^i?'
irAO latcnO, will i[-'pcdrio be ihc Koundaiion of ^te^^rV.^
tnl U'^ctfinelt.will be found a Pnflice of <o nam*
bdctKX to Knud, and to »lily fufceptible of diOioncft
, (bat I hclicve, every Klember of tbii Iloure will
I Stippftflion
DOBfirm D> Afftrtion, Sir, tnd itludrateihe QneflioD
I, lOiill mention lomc psrikalar Inflanceiof Frtnd
I ibii Co&cin hit gtren Occafiofi, of Fraud fo evident
etcBable ihm itcisnotbe related without Indignation.
Roj-al George wit a Urge Ship belonging co tbe
M Compmy, which hjvirg been a Voyage 10 Vent
ot in at Zamcnghol in bcr Reiurn ; aod being there
to proceeJ 00 her Voyage homeward*, fei fail, an4
lUia » Weck'i Sailing of the P«Tt, when, upon a
ilk* Officeri entered into t Cunlulcatiofl, snd dcur*
■ go back a Muoih'i Voyage to Antigua, for whal
Sir. nay be eaGIy gueflrd; when it wis told thu iba
H infured upoD a fuppofed Value of 6o,oool.
iti Refolutian, S r, was no fooner formed, than Or*
re given to change tbe Courfe and llnr to Antigui, in
aooR>»U tbe RemoDflratices of the CarpcDtcr, who
itcf^ Judge of the Condition of a A'euel, and who
1 wiib Honefiy and Rcfalutinn agatnft their whole
tre. But tbcy purfurd ifaeir new Scheme without injr
epbii Murtnurt or AfTcrtion) 1 and, wheti tbey arrived
Ina, found Came Method of infljcnciog the OKccrs
lAaad to declare the Ship aafit lor the Profecution of
acir Uefign. Sir, wai now hippily completed. To
I tbe Onermination which had been pronounced tn
ivtMr, they tirxndrd the Ship upon a Bank of Sand,
Ribc Iron that grapplrt the Timber togcher, and
il ukea away the Milb and Rigging, and what-
tnild be ufcd or fold, threw ibc B^llatt to each EUkI,
bruite the VrfTH in the middle.
|r ihii well-Connived Shipwreck, hiving u they itna*
nifed tbcir Fortunes, they came Home iriumphanllj
their profpcrDa* \*oyage, and claimed the Money for
the Ship wjiinforci. The Infurerf, ll»rtled at fucb a
nd io uacxpc&ed, enquired ijitoibe AITiir v^iih all the
rjr which III Importance might naturally in;:<te, and,
SBC Confultition, determined to try whether the Sliip
■Ot be tefo:cd and brtughi to England.
R porfuaocc of tbii Rem ution. liiey (cB( Workmen aad
VJl.
B b
Mati-
ir\nn
II.
( i86)
t4, Rtn \fairriaU, and tvithojt much Expmce, or uiy OiScvJr^.
•T40- bra«gh( it hr.hrr.
• I believe, Sir. thii ReUtJon k fufficient at MKr. la
prove ihf Praflke, andexpUrn the Niiure t T rt< F:
which thi) Method of Infurance gtvc> Occafion t h.'
freqiteticj'cf tlirm ufuch, thit many Infijoce* mi) :
tlnccd, I Qiail tSer anotber Oiort Narnttre oS iv:
kind.
• A Ship that briongfd to iSr Eafl-lAdis Company, w-
fured after (bit Method, wa« rjn albore by the OpCuft, la
ftich a manner (hat he irt^Kglned none biJt bimf'cir sbV H
recover it; ard ihcrrfoie. iKo' ii cofl joool. foU ii f.
but the Purcli3t'er, ro left expert ihao the Optair .
means very I'prcdily iftdifcngage it, to rertore it I'l a p-vpet
Condition with little Ejcpeoce, and WMinifch enrtchcd by w
fortunate Bargain.
• I canr.oi but obfervc.S'r, ihit this kind of rnu,' ii tSt
more fonnidib'e, a» it may be praflifed wit)ioi;c
of DrWftinn J had ihc Captain, inlleHd of flrn
Itroytd hii VefTct, how could his Wickrdord t\j
bcca difcorered* Or how could the S:>«Kh.S a Cuci; - i
Sliip liavc been brought Home, had it bcea fank in fonv
dillani Corrrr of the World i
' Thn PriAice, Sir, and the Fraudi whwh h liat otT>-
ftoncd. and the Sofpiciont which the earj' Pr^ice of FnoJi
alovayi crntn. have produced (o many 1 rial*, iml filled tht
Coom of Juilicc \vith fuch intrtc^ir Contention*, ifr- * •
Jadgei, who know perhap* nothing of ik:i Pnfl cebr
ill Effr^i, have often declare.) J: to be To pregnane »ti
CoQielii and Cheat), that it cnghtnot to be [uir<rinj, aadital
a Law far fupprcffing it, woy'd mach concribute tn tbe £4*-
bliflwneiitof Wace, and ffce Security of Property.
• I am not inferCMe, Sir, of the Force of tl:« .Arf.
made ufe of by the Honourab'e Gentlctnan wbo rp<^<
favour of thi* Praflice, and cannot but allow it that y.
which hi» Bexrcningi alwajt defervt t it i; the ftroegci'
perhapj tin on!y Argamcnl. that can be produoed. Ha
ASicnioa of ibc ImpoiTibihty of eftimating the real Valw
of a Ship, or of (orekrowing the Socccf* of a Vo)^j[^ ii
inconteftiWe ; But perhsp) h wjI) follow from ihcccr. Ml
tKit in imaginary Value ought-to be admnted, but (Jul U
lorursrce ought to he allowed, where theit ii no r-tio<al
Method of aicertaining it 1 or at lealt, thatat] focH Ie'^< - '
ocght to be rather below the probable Value ihaa ab'--..'
* If the Gricvaoce complained of, hai b^n prcvrd
be imagioary, we ought doubt!eft to confult how ti r
xfmedicd ) nor do I believe that our Coaldltnlotu will .
( 187 )
cfeftaal, if we rngage in :hcin, not with an Intention to Anon 14, Geo.
perplex, bat to inform each other. 1 am of Opinion, Sir, '^- '^-t*^-
Ibat ihe Imporunce of the QuelUon requires a Committee; *— ''''V"^^
Borcdb I dil'cover any eOentuI UcftrCt in the Bill, wbicii
&imM hinder it from paffing into a Law.*
ilr. Burrcl.
St>,
• I am c3Dviiiccd by Experience, as well ai Reafon, that ^f, Burrel.
Ibmaay Jnconvcarencitf^arifc from this Method of fnluranci;,
Uut it aflordi To many Opportunities of traud, and givea
lodi Eocourdgemcnc to Nrghgence, that 1 Ihall willingly
caacurinany Meafuresthat may cfTtAually fuppreG it.
■ Ic a, Sir, toowtll known to require Proof, ihatlntereA
if ibe Parent of Dilij^ence, and that Men attend to the Per-
fornaoce of their Duty, in Proportion as they mull I'ufFer by
the NrglcA of it i and therefore, every Pra^ice thatdcprivea
HoneUy of its Rewaid is injurious to the Public.
■ But (hat this is the Confeaucnce of ejlimating Ships at
IB inagioary Value in the Offices of Infurance, is to the
Ughelt Degree evident. When a Ship is ellimated absve
\u rnl Vaiae, how will the Commander lutl'er by a Wreck,
ar what (hull rellniin him from deilroying his VeiH:!, wacn
it Bay be done with Security to himfelf, except that Inte-
nitj, wbtcb indeed ought to be generally difiufed, but which
u noc alwiys to be found, and to which tew Men think ic
ttctocrult upon Occaliont of far left Importance f
* To fhew. Sir, that I do not indulge groundlefs Sufpi-
tisi, ormagnify the bare PofEbility of h'raud into Reality j
ibil do not biacKcn human Nature, or propofe Laws agaioll
Ki:lE«bief, that have rot yet exilled, it may be proper to
Muioa ibmc Letters, in whi^li I have been tofurmcd by
■r Correl'pondrai at Leghorn, of the State of the Ships
vkich have arrived there: Snips lb weakly m.inii(»J, and fa
Kionlly, or negligently lloreJ ; fo mucn decayea in the
ni, and fo lU fitted with Rigging, that he declares hii
AdoBjflineat at their Arrival.
■ iinaydeierveour Coofideration, Sir, whether the Suc-
tlftof the SpaniOi Prjvaiecrt may not be in great Part at-
trlMtedto th.i periticiou> Practice ; whether Captain%, when
ihlir Veflcls an; iufured for more than their V:iluc, do not
t^tf veaiure into known Danger t Whether they do r.oc
wSkUy ta'itk the Security of Lonvrys ? Whether they do
Mt dirrfl their Courl'cs where Priv.iteer» may molt It-corely
niie? Whether ihey do not furrender with lels keji:tance
lia Intereft woaid eicite } And whether they do not ralie
B 2 Clamoura
IT* i:4n.
( 188 )
John
Qamours againd tlie Governtnent for thrit fll Sotnfs
avoid the Sulpicion of Nrgligcncc orFriud.
' Thai oiberrraudi areconimidtd in the Prafljce of !•■
fuiing, is wcU known 10 itlc HoDOur&ble Cicntlcni.ia vh»
fpoke againllihe Bi!l : Jt ii a common Prafdccto t.*ke \
ney upon Bocromiec, by way of Pledge for the Cjpiain'i
ddity, andiodcflroy thit Security by infun&g tbc ml Vmic
fo ch.ii the Captain may gals by neglcdirg the Can of k'.%
VcHel, nr» lead fccure himfcir from Lod, ind iiuta>gr b4
Eafe or hi» Pleafure, without any Icterroptioa Irom Ibe Fc
of dimtniDiing hit Fortune.
■ The whole Practice of (ararancc. Sir. ii in itt
State, I believe, fo perplexed with I'ravd). and of fnrb
nifcll Tendency to the Obtlruflion of Commcfce, thai ill
folucely teijuiica foine leg;)! Regutatiuot.'
Sir John Barnard.
Sir,
* Of Fraudt in the Pra^icc at Infurarice, wJtfa rcflld
which the HonGUhbleO'cTitleman has appealed 10 nr. I
coaiideatiy affirm, that 1 ainTotslIjr ignonot: Iknownoi^
aoy fraudulmt PrnAiccs opcn!y carried on, cr e(Ub]i(hcd
Cu^om, which I fuppofe ate meant : For with rrgaid to
gle A&s of Fr«ad, committed by parncslar Men, it is Bot|
be iuppofcd but that they have been d«crCled m thii. &i is
other Braocheiof Traffic; DOr cud I conceU-e thst any
gument can be drawn frooi tbem agamlt the PraAicc t Su.
every Part of Commerce is i« be prohibited, which bu ^
oHhcd Villain* with Oppofitimcio of PcceNf we fhill
tiaQ 1'rftdeinio a narrow Compafi.
* With regard. Sir, to the Inllaocc of the Royal
tho* the Procecdiogs of ih< Cfiicer} are rot wholly to be
dicaicd, }ci Put of thciiCoadu£l ii left locxplicabi* tWaj
has been n-prelcnted. Their Keturn 10 Antigua when
were bound Jor England, and were wtlhm a Week**
of thctt Port, is cslily to be defended, if the Wted mi
inry to their intended Courfc; for it 11 not difficall to
crive th»l they might reach a dillant Pott with a ft
Wifid. much looner than 00c much neater, with the W
ag«inn them.
* I have always obferrcd, Sir, that the Grntlemm aog^,
in the Trade to thcFjtt-ln<iie3, ■(lumean Air of 5>jpen<
to which 1 kcownoi what Claim tticy can produce. »m1
to imiginc, that their Chatter g:vcs tbem more cxi
Know'nlge. and more aiutc Sagacity, than bUt to the
Men not combined in their AlTocauaB.
"( t«9 )
thefc Gentlemen may diflapprore mf At- Anno 14. l_
. md howcirer they any mifrepreCenc them, t 0iall *'- >74^
kjk (hat they will hive with the Dilinterelied and
^heir jult Weight, inc) thst thji AlFtir will not
fKtt:inifi<d upoo ut ifflpcrfc^Exmiaauoii.'
bcrt Walpole.
1.
ih« Mrrcbxatt ire fathfied with tTir prrrenrsir Robert'
[afufing. Of wLat t« the Opinion of any leparaw Wjlpoic.
). i [hmk i( abrolutrly annrirciliirf tu entjuire.
Jiated for the public .4dr&nngr. aod arc cngagrd
lentary Chancier to coufKief. not the private
)f {sniailu Mcs, but the general Advantage of oor
or Parfuit, Sir, of nitionil Intvrell, we fhould be o-
^Hat!)r taOppofe the Schtmtt which private Men.
^ftitfnsittet hiv«rcifmeil far tbetr own AJvami^,
^pcf may be erpe^lrd to d^rcnd with all their Art s
IKtvCry Manii unwilling to Imagine that the Pub-
A <m] hii own are oppofitc, ami brcaafo it it to be
l^aay maycnnfidcT the Public only in Sobordina-
^■dvn, and be very little follicitous about the gt-
l^rHty of (heii Country, provided none of the
n which ifflid ic extend their IcfliieRce to ihetn-
tiK Dtfcullton ol tbii Queflion.Sir, to coofi-
ITC engaged m a War at^inll a Nation from
Depredlttont, Opprtfirons, and Cneliicsi
sg complain'd of, and againll which we are
With a RefoluiioQ propoitioned to the In-
fcffifred. and toour Defifcor VengMoct. Wc
tftry Method ofdiflrefiing [hem, and to pro-
r ^rmt even at the Expeaceof prclie&t
■A private Men.
I, Sir, ro alt who have either heard or
l/di, that thfy live In Carclcfrnef* and In-
al) the aatuial Advinuge* of their own
tite thK Gain nf iortign Commerce, and depend
American Siitlcmcnt). for Jill the Conrenl'
rbapt for molt of the Nc«eCirit»of Life,
tke nartkular Circnmltance that makei a War
ia mach to be dreaded by them. A Naiioa
io tbeai by Sra hold* them bcftei^cd. like ■ Garrtfbn
an Army, proc1iide« (hem from Sjpplin. ia-
Saccocn, and if it canoot force their WsUi bjr
Attack,
( >90 )
Anno 14, Geo AuacUj tza M leail by a, Blockide llarvc them to ■ Cipiuk*
U i7«i>. lion,
t/'V^XJ ' Thw. Sif. by a Nival War with an Enemy oT fspniv
Sircagifa. cbejr omit at Icogth be fubJiicd, aod fuUucd DCifeqa
without 8 Baltic, iixl wiihoui the pof&oillity of RpJ^"—"
agamft fuch an Kozmy, ihcir Couragr. or their Di ■ >
ol no Ufc ; they mijr form Armies indctU, but ntn... i.u
only flaod upon the Shore, to detcod what (heir F^immbti*
00 iniention of invading, and lee (hofc Sbifi k-x/.d 10 wkick
iheir Pay is treaforcd. or ihcir ProvifioDs arc (torcd.
• Su:b,Sir^ii our luiural Superiority orer thi' :
Spccica of Supcnvriiy thai muK ineviubly pit
(tot defeated by our own Folly i and lurcly a mori
Method of defcatiag t;, the i^pjiniirds^thcmielve*- <
havedikovetcd, duo that of infuring (heir Ships ai..
KIcrchdnti.
• When a Ship tbut infured i» taken, which, notn
iDg all frccautiunt mull lomclimn tu>ppcn. we tx-)-.
Cargo, find if ejitremcly valuable, and triumph in <
ccfs; Mc not only count the Gam to ourletvej. Klj:
to our Enemict, and dcicrmmc that a Onall N.:'
C^pturei will reduce them to v3kt us Peace u{'< :
Termt.
• Such ire (he Conclurioni which arc ma^. na^ n^it
with Rcalon, by Men unicquainied with ibe Iccrct -
of our Mnchaois, and who do not fufpcA lu 10 t>. ..
enough to fccure our linemici agunit ourfclrrf. but it il
found, upon a moreclofe Examtnatton. tbaioorSbipt
have only plundered t>ur Mcrchinu, aiwl tkit oar rn
may indeed bare cnrtcbedihrmlelvci, but impovcrtflwd
Coontry. It is difcovered. thai the LoU of the Span
to be repaid, and porhapt fooKtifMa wiUi Inmcfl,
firiiiAi infuren.
' U It be urged, that we ongttt nrt to enaA aoy
which may obiiru^ the Gain of-our FcMow Sjbjedi,
not be alkcd, why all Trade with Spain ii piohibitti!,
Dot (heTradebc cquxlly gainful with the Inlurance.aad
not the Gain be more generally diOriboicd. and t
more properly nationLtl !
• But thiiTntie was prohibited, because it <
ccfijry (0 our Enemies, than ourWvt* ; it was \
cade tbe Lawi ol War rec)uire, that a led t
fafiered lo inAiA a greater 1 it ii upon thit 1'- . i
every Battle is fought, and that wc hrc our own ahtp
' confumc (he Nivictof tbe Enemy.
• For thii Rcafon, Sir, ■! appears to me evident
CoatradiAioD, that the Infurancc of Spanifh Ship*
Tcidenral Abufea.
■ t by Foreigners, tfae Nation
:.'^ttrd; but, even in that Cafe,
■■■- private [ntereil of the In-
:y ruined, is 3 fufficiciit Securi-
. nut. Sir, be conceived that an/
on a Bufiners, by which he be-
: chat, when hedefiih, he will be
. canaoE but know that he engages
:ii] Rain.
L, Affair is, that Frauds are, indeed,
' for that Reafon always fufpeAed,
...lenthey infure the Ship and Cargo
>'i, anang other Chances, the Proba*
:, and proportion their Demands, noc
inil Danger of the Voyage, but to thft
[he Man with whom they contract
■-.lya the Pr^flice of thotc whom Experi-
(inted with the Danger of implicit Confi'
tingCredality, nor do my but the Young
-.'jr chemrclves to be fs expofed to Frauds.
■Aiaa Ihould be injured, or the general Gain
. over- balanced, by a few Deceits.
jppeari, that, ootwithilanding the Eale and
' hic^ dw, prefcnt Methods of inftirance udmit
""■^ ' •.Inibren, by a proportionate Degree
'om being injured, and by-con-
is now to bs conftdered.
( 19* )
Aonoi4.<'<o >"^ ought therefore to be prohibited, for every Rabitkit]
It. 1740- cm be tirgfd againU Games of Cfaancr.
* With rrgard to this Bill in grnenil, it ii ia tt^OfiiM
bigbl)' ncccIUi)-, nor can I dircorer any iroportATt Ot>iifl«
ibat cir be made .-igaiflft it. Some Law of tbit kiad, ttdit
this Piirpolie. I h^ive long imendeJ to offer to the CocG^-
lion of ibi» Affcmb'yt and fincc ii ii now before ui. I wA
we ought to confider it With the /^EtcnUon, wbich nt^ti
jaflly expcAcd from uc.'
Lord Baliiniore.
S 1 R,
Lord * t know not how properly the PriAice of Jtkfat^ii
B^tlmore ^ termed sSpccici of Hazard ; nor do I ihtnk uy \h»k'
more it to be corfidered, than whether the GaoK be |ii*M
to the Kation, or not] for I caonot difcoverthst tkcte tt»
Abfurdicy tit eoriching ourfelvo « the Eipcnce o( otic
Nation, whether Eneonci or AHiet. That we oa|bt »
prefer the general Good tuihe AdnDtage of lt>dV*i9ll», »
undoubted; but I cannot conceive thai, in lh<i Cafe, tbcnci*
beany OppolJtion between prirate and public Iq'
our Inlurcn gain byfecuring ihe Shiiu of our E
Kation i} benefited, for all natioiul Gain molt cicto
the lland» of iDdJvidaali.
' No NUn will afTicrt tbat we iMght toajTift oor
nor will any Man imagine that weaffiit them by inpai-^
ingtbem: and if our Infurcn gain by Ihcir FriAjce, ttcSf*'
niardtmull undoubtedly be Lolcri.*
Mr. Willimoi.
S m,
Mr.wmimot. ' ' *>*" converfid on iht Queflion to wluck AmU
ftlatet, with Men engaged in vanoui kindt of TnSc. id
who tuve no common Interctl but tbat of tbeir
have dilperled among the Mcrclunb. toolt cmisei
AcquainiatKc wirh the who!* Extent of Come
for their Knowledge of ibe true Intrrell ol the N
pin of this Bill, ind cannot hud any of ibcm fo
Ibc Gricvaocc, of which we have (a loud (.onpUian,
defire that it Oiotild fc« redttlfo) by the Mcarurc* m*
pofR^.
* Thil Frauds aie pncltfed on every Sid», is
well ai in other Tridei, the geiu-r^l Corruption of
givct us miHcteoi Rcafoo to IulpcC> ; hm what u ca
eveiy fort of Traffic, caniMK be produced ai on A
for ice Px^bibiuou of any.
( '95 )
luC cbc PnQice of infaring an imaginary Value* may Anno 14, Geo}
>pporninity for greater Frauds than can be praftifed "■ *74<»-
imon Dealings, is likewife evident, bat I cannot difco- L/'^/*^\J
zh Frauds as tu require the loterpofltion of the Legifla*
r they are praAifed only by thofe of our own Nation,
iblk does not (aSeti fur Property is only transferred
we Subject to another! the Fraihl oughc indeed to be
f panifhfd ia the Courts of Criminal Jullice, bat the
n which gave t\\c Opportunity of prafijling it. ought
be rellrained. any more than any other Profei&oa not
lal in itfe^, but liabie to accidental Abufes.
'our Inlurcrsare defnuded by Foreigners, the Nation
, indeed, mnre nearly affcdted ; but, even in rhatCafe,
I be remember'd, that the private Ititereit of the In-
who mult be immediately ruined, is a fnifick-ntSecuri-
the PiCjlic. For it cannot. Sir, be conceived that any
will obllinately carry on a Bufinefs, by which he be<
every Day poorer; or that, when hedefiils, he will be
Jed by another, who cannot but know that he engages
c Tnffic to his certain Ruio.
lie true Suie of this Affair is, that Frauds are, indeed,
UMimitted, and are for that Reafon always AirpcAed.
«t tbc Infuren, when they infure the Ship and Cargo
: Accident*, reckon, amQng other Chances, the Proba<
of being cheated, and proportion their Demands, not
1 the Length and Danger of the Voyage, but to the
3er likewiluof the Man with whom they COniraA
his. Sir, IS :ilways the Pr^Alce of thole whom Experi-
■9 made acquainted with the Danger of implicit Confi-
Aud unrd''pe£tiDg Credulity, nor do any but the Young
Folltilful iulTer themfelves to be fj expofed to Frauds,
tJftir Kortunei thould be injured, or the general Gain
r Bufinefs ovrr-balanccd. by a few Deceits,
'bus it appear;, that, notwiihilanding the Eafe and
with which the prefent Methods of Infurance .-idmic
tobepraAiicd. th;; Infurcr;, by n proportionate [>egres
tioa, Iccure themiielves from being injured, and by-con-
ee the Nation
he Infurance of fureign Ships is now to bcconfidered.
1 194 )
[nnot4,Gco applinl to, becaufewe inrure Jian cafy Rate, ami wc aab'
U. Tip fuic at 10 caiy Rjtc,bccaulc wcarcofcen applied to.
L/'YNk^ « Nor u ih« CbupaeCk of fitiu0i Inrumice, the «Dly lit»J
llvi 10 the PrrfcicDCc ivliich it prcfeivci among Koiciguili
who ue ipduced to apply to thii Nanon, by tbe KcpouiiM
wlkkb ouf Meicbanu liave dcfervcdly gained, for I'rtibi^
and Piiik^uality, fupciior to that ut aoy uthcr Tradc/i. Out.
Merchaiti^.Sir, bargain without .Artifice, paywiitiotit Sub
fuges, and ate ie;idy oo ail Ocufions lo pic^ivc tier
raueiai the Hix^rd cf tbeir Fru£t.
< I'lom thc{c two Confiderationiive may draw guBfce-
3bie Argmntrnj againll aoy RcllniEti uf^n the Pfadke rf
Inluringi if Foicigner& are onccditappointcd in lb>ir Apfl>>
cationi tou), our Bjdncfs wilj in a great Pan cealc j aadtU
we diall Dot tben be able to inrure at lower Rzcts tfciD aW
JVaiiont, «e flull never recover that Branch of our Tnit.
And as ih« CharaAer of the Eoglifh Merchant! excapa
ttiem from my Siipicion oi Pracuces pernicious to (be Pub-
lic, why (hou;d they be rcil rained? Why, Sir. fboold t^
appear to be I'ufpected by the Le^ifUiure of their own Cooa-
iry^wboiQ r'oieigrcr»truit witbcu Kcfitation t
• It hat been cbjected to them wuh great Warmih, tad M-
fed wiih much xtieioticat Exaggeratiun, that they al£A ik
Incraici of their Country, that they prolong the War. inddt-
feat tbofe Advuiagci uhicb our S.tuiiion and Cotamtitt
tit.vt given us. Ioip'Ji3tIona fulTr.'teutly aitrtkciouj, if ihcy
were founded upon I'ruih.
' But let ui. Sir, examine the .VgumctlU by wh<h tVtt
Accuraiion hat been luppo/tcd, and cu^uirc wbeti '
Triumph ot EJotjuence bai been occaliaBcd by my .-
ji«riority cf Evidence or Rcilca. It U urged. ;ha£ v.
already prohibited Commerce with ihc Spaniard}, ai.
I s ictorc weoi^htiiiuwikto prohibit cbc inlunscco^tkn
j^liipi'
* It will not require, Srr.in Imagination very fcrtiV, 0* >
Knowledge vcty cxicnftvc, to (np^ly Argumcnti (u^'l^i
.to reJute ihii fuppofcd Dcmontlnuion ; ui Oppc^
which it m<y faemjjCiJ, tbat (his kind f' '" t"
Mculuif Nature, tluit it lubhiU upoti
fcrvedby the Repuiaiioo of our lofuitii . .> i\l .
the InluMft of other NatJont may obuin :
jDCan*. and from wliom we (haU thercioie r
' lia\*y be obfervAl.Sir, ihatothci Cun
MCuliar i'rodu^ of different C^ot;tries, an <
Danger of io^ipg our other Trade by iu(ff
. itdtpcnda upon the Exuilcocc of our ^Ubu:-£.:^jci ^
e Mont)- anj common l{ov.ei\y ut to be found'. H 174*^ '
This Argumenc mxy perhaps be yet more cficclually in- V^-/'"^^^^
rmlirfatcd, o* perhipi CRtitdy lubverted by (ieojing the Ex*
>eJii.tii.cof that Prohibition which is produced a! a Prefident,
"or zinaiher Reftrain:. Nor indeed does it appeal why wc
hcnfd preclude ourMvei from a gtinful Trudc, becaufe the
^oney ii drawn by it out of the Hinds of our Enemies ;
>r 1^ hv the Prtxlud of our hindi {liould lie unccmrunied, or
lur MiuufA^urci Hand nncmploycd, rather than we ftiould
til to our Enemies what ihey will poichafe at another
'lace, or by the Interveniion of a reutral Power.
• To fell to an Ercmy ttint which may enable him to lo-
nrc ui, thai wh'cb he mull DccelTirily obtain, and which he <
lotd buy from iio other, would intteni be, to the lall degree,
.b*\ird ; bat thit may furely be fold chem withoutioy Breach
if Motility or Poliiry, which [)>ey con want with Icfs lo-
lOnvenici'cc (ban ivc can keep. If wc were bcficging a
Towr, I Ihou'd not advife our Soldiers to fell to the Inhabi-
laat* Animiinliton or Proviiiuns, but cannot difcover the
Folly of admitting them to purcharc Ornameuis for -their
lloufet, or Btocxdet tor theirLadici.
Bot, without examining with the utmoll Accuracy.
whether the late Prohibition was rational or not, 1 have, I
hope, luggcfled Objc^ions fuSicient to make the QueHion
doubtfji. and to incline ui to try the Succefi of one Experi-
ment before we venture upon another more hazirdou*.
X am never wil ling, Sir. to load Trade with Rcflraintt i
Trade it In iti own Nature (0 fugitive and variable, that no
conliant Courfe can be prefcribed 10 it : aivd thofe Jlegah-
ti'Jlii which were proper when they were made, itray in a
kw Months become DtfiicuUiei and Obllmflions. We well
know, thst many of the Meafurei which our Aoceflort por-
fucd for the Encourjtgement of Commerce, have been found
of pernicipu! Confcijuence; and even in this Age, which
perttapi Etpt^nrncc more than Wifdom ha) enlightened, I
hive known few Atiempti of that kind which bave Dot dc-
featcd the F.nJ tut which they were made.
It Is more prnricnt to leave the Merchants at Liberty to
furritc ihorc Mcafiires which Experience fhall dIfUte upon
every Ocoifton, and (uRcr them to Inaich the prefcnt Oppor-
tunity of honell Gain whenever it (ball hippen ; they will
D^Tcr injure their own Interell by the Ufe of this Liberty,
and by piefcrving ihcmfcives they will preferve the Natioti
from Detriincnr; ncr will they need to be reflraincd by 1
Law propofed wiibout their Soltciiation, and of Which they
canQC'l difcover any beneficial Conrcquencci.*
■' Cci Mr
C i9« )
"* Il^V-to*'^'' Mr. Hotttio W«]poIe.
LxS*>^ Si«,
Mr. Horat<> ' ^°' ^^ ^i^' ^°^ before nt T bftTC BO fsiticnlv F
Waipole. iiefi, not Ddire that it flioold be proraatra bf itf t
meant thin rational ArgumcDU uid the RepreftittH
indublt<ib!e F&£ls.
* I have DO Regard, Sir, in tbis Enqairy, to uyfi
Interefl, or any other Defire tbtn that of {ecoring tv)
reft of my Country, which, in my Opinion,. cvidm^
quires that we ftiould give no Afliftaoce to oar Eneaun,
our Merchants Ihould co-operate with oor Navies, td
we fhould endeavour to with bold every thing tku i
make the War lers bordenfome to them, and cobUe^
of longer Continuance.
* It was obferved, Sir, in the Beginning of the Dd
^jr ' by a Gentleman eminently (killed in mercantile ASiir^
Wm Inrorance was pra^lifed by many Nationii buthedii
^^'' inform us of what one of the Cliufei mikcs it pn|i
enquire, whether they allowed the Method of' infariM
reft or no Interefl, and ratine Ships st an imagioiblcll
This is, I know, is prohibitra by the Dutch t a Natitai
Authority on commercial Qiieftions will not be difnni
do they allow their Eaft-Tndia Ships to be iofurco atil
* The Difficulty of eltimating the Value of any i
hat been urged in Defence of this PraAicc, nor B dl
fence wholly without Weight, becaufe the Cargo ia
Voyages cannot be afccitained. I (halt, however, lal
Opportunity of oVcrving. tbo' I may fomewbat digicl
the prefent Argument, how nccefTary it ii that tomti
exported Cargoes fhould be exactly fpecified.
< I have been lately informed. Sir, that fix Slupi
with Briti/h Wool, have entered at one time imo* J
f ranee ; nor do i know how this PraAicc, which it
complained of as pernicious to our Tiade, and thici
the Ruin of our Country, can be prevented bat by a c
and regular Particulariution of every Cargo can
france.
* I admit, Sir, that fome Cargoes wbich are !■
cannot be particularly regillercdi fuch is tha Gial
which we are daily fupplicd by our Commerce .wi
French in Oppofition to their J,awa, and which vm
chants are therefore under the Neceflity of coBoeali^
* It it not indeed eafy to forefee all the lacmiTa
thnt may arife from new Regulations of -Commerce i 1
Difficulty is not To great as has been reprefented, no
o
I
( ^91 )
ittwhjr itl oarConfuliitlon* on Trade fhould bewitfi. Annoi4,Gco.
IteQ. Cicniltfnicn may obnin fame Knowlnlgc of *' ''■*"-
from their own Obfcrvition. which they miy en- ^''''V"''^-^
Elf ir . cA and Jndi.Tcrenc L'onvcrfiiion wiili
Tidbn o/ k ._>>i(rn, xnd by En^jtiines inio the i'lfic'
5o of Cc*minercc j F.nqoinef, Sir, which arc gc-
t'efleii ty thufc whole EmplDymenii coofitit their
Co jnrtkuljT Parti of Commrrce, or wliofe Ap-
10 Bufinrfi hinders them from attentjing to any
but tbo(e which their own perfocal Expeiieaco
_ h«» to form.
From thffr InfonMticMii impanlaUy roUcfled, and dili-
jf compuci, a AtiR not cngjgrd in the PrufdEon of a
cMftt miy form gtncnl Pnnciplei, 3cd draw Confe-
-— am, and more ntr nftve in their RrUtioni,
are ftnick ou: onlj- from the Obfcrvation of
Ki^iu ->|>ccie» of ComiDCTce.
abrr of thti tloufe, Sir. ihos enlightened bjr En-
1 wbofe lodgment is not dlvrrred from its natural
.by ite frnpalfc ol an/ private Confidcration. n«y
efapy commeiciat Debate trtth led l)*Bgct of Error
finality than thr Merchanti, of whom rtTvctihcIeft [
ibe bifbell F.lleeio, and vvhofe Knowledge or Probity
Jauad to depreciate, when [ declare my Fean, ihat
letimci corfiiunH gerrr.il Maxims tifTrade
i:cn of paitku'at Bonchc!;, and foDietitnei mif>
in farthe Intercfl of the Public,
iif the Merchants ought indeed always to
ir ihii Hoofe ; but then ir ought to be regarded
lrn>tion to that of the whole Coaimuiiity, a
ion which the Geitilemiu] wiia fpoUe tall feemsto
He cBiy pcrhapi not intend long to retain
il CharaArr, aod therefore delivered his Opintoa
Ere bant.
|lllingtii|>cd between the CoitduCl of experienced
(nturert, with how touch Jiiflke I llial] not de<
I Un afraid ttiat i vigorous Enquiry wt-uld dilco-
' oeitbcr Age cor Vauth bas been able to refill Arong
it to fome Pradicea, which neither Law not Juf-
fopport, and that thofe whofe Experience bat made
cantiQUt, hare net been always ec|ua!iy hoocll.
lactbii ii a Subje£t upon which I am not iiicUoed to
II. and oeity mention at the Rcafon which convinces me
*rrpricty U the Bill before us.'
Sif
^it^*"' SirWlMinnyonge. -. ''
SirWiiU«m * There appears no Probability that (h^
YoDge. nicns which have been formed of this fiiHj
cited by tliis Debate i nor indeed is tliere a
jvondcripg ai chis Concrariety of Scntirocms. ,
* The fcveral Claufcs ofEhefj]] have ftrlil
fequenccj (q difTcrcnc, ihai fcarce any rce Md
themaHlj and in our prereni DeliberaiioB au]
pariicufer Llaufe is confidercd as an Ar^umfl
whole Bill J
' It is thericfore nscelTarj' to prevent an oi
pCEMoF Time, to rcfolve [he Houfc into a
which ihe BJIJ may be confidered by finglcCS
part which cannot be defended uiay be rcii
on!y TCtiirrcd which deferves our Appiabation*
mitu?, when we have conildertd ihe firli CIa(
the ObJEflionsagainrt ir, we may aierd it j oJ
amtTided. rej^H or poflpone it, and fo procew
whok EiU wiih miich £ieatcr Expedition, a«
lime with a more diligent View of every CJaua
^e are obliged to take ihv whole hi once imqj
tion.
* I /ball for my Parr approve fomc Cla,
Objeflions looEhcTii but tjiink it proper to
jfflions, and iht Hcafufis ofmy Approbatfo™
miiiLec into wiiich we ought [o go on this Og
• Thi BUI Uftlf tw «j AJiv^
A Bill to prevent iomc IccMivenicncies j|-|
aiicctof Ships,
Wbtnai U hath been fiitftJ ly txpti-itjKt
Afurench, hterrj} or na Initrtp^ hatb it-
maty ptmuium PraSLes, 'whertbi great Al
■lyish their Cnygsii, ha'ui been f.etndulently i
tmd n great Encouragement ti the Exportatfoai
rarrfhg en many Dihcr probihUtJ and (Umfefi^
art ihtrth /rcrettd, and the Fartiri cencen^
l-ofs, at iwj/ 10 the DhniKUikii ef the f^al^/ti
iht great Dttnmsni aad U/t sf the fuir 7>.|
froduiing nrt illrgai end nri/chU'voe! k*nd of Clt
%. undtr the PiiUnct pf cjurifi« the JW
•J^r Iradf, tirt ItijluHtiaa and hudable DM
< '99 )
litlwas rcfcrr'dto a Coininic(cc,but not forty Mem- Anno 14, Geo.
09 in the Hoale, it wasdropc. H- i?^-
1 to the Report of the Mutiny and Derertion-Bill:
it to beengrofled.
nnd Committee, went thro* the Bill for opening a
ro'Ruflia to Perria, with levenl Amendment!!,
ad. Kead a third time, and pHl-d the Bill for pu-
rlatiny and Desertion, and for the better Payment of
r.and their Quarter!! : Ordered it to the Lords
into a grand Committee on the Bill fur the Encou- Pr-cccding
of Seamen* and for the Tpcedier Manning his Ma-"" ^^^
n, when the firft Claufe bcri.g read, pr.-pufing the ^'■■""•'"' '*'"
obe fiird thus, that every Voluntler Seaman, after
(Service, be entitled to Six Pounds p«r Year, durirg
John Barnard exprefled himfcif ai ibllows:
Sir
A itt* per*utrttdi anti that ivhich tvas iifttKdcd for
rrngtrntMl eT Trait and}iavigatiim,beiomt$ burtjut of,
tdiv* lo tkt Jamt.
•mtdj txhtrn/, and for the c^r3ual putting a Stop ta,
irtvtntimg the tiki tm'Viarruntalh l'racli:ii fjy tbt
3i it €na:hd, i£c. That all FJuai, Injirumtuttj
, «■ Piomi/ts ef Jff'urtLmt^ made f. om and after
f ir ta Imertjt, and Policies 'Uixlmd iii tli Sum affiir-
htul furtbir Protf ef Inti-fjl, than t'jt Pulicj, or in
Iftrdi or Manner, to that w ll-i faint EffeSl i tr upon
tthir Vf£th or deeds ^ loadtn sr to hi laadtn tbirton^
bona tide upon Inttrefi^ Jhallbe^ and art btrtbi dt'
void) any La-iu, i.'atuie, or Cujlom to tbt etntraiy
ifi not'Viithfiandiug.
Udai-jui^s, rbatnolbing in tiis J.Q cvilained. fiall ex-
<€ tonfirutd to extend, to •vatate ir make iiaid any jljfu-
adt nxiikaut Fraud, upcn Intercjl '/* tht. fubtlt, graay
tit Sum for 'u:hicb tkt .loured ft. all appear la It ton-
tbt Vrfftl, er Gsjdt ficjit'td.
ied eiv.-a\if that nuiit.^ in this Aci attained, Jhall
• auiki void any A^utamt mad; upon Account of Mb-
nfme Refpondcatij, c/- Bitamrt.-^ Btr.di, in '■^hUh tbe
' Salvage ij allvived tbt Lender ; nor aiij Affurante
la fide, to rt-a£urt any Sum before ajjiired, on ary Ships
, fr /beir Cargoes i prruidtd tbe fame he mentioned ia
t 19 hi Re affurante, or en Money f Imt en Refpon-
^ iMitmrtt Btndt.
■iinreas by fememl A^i of Parliaments tbt SuhjtSt of
^thm i« general art retrained ff em tradi^ to tbe
Eafi.
( 20O
Anna Mt Geo-
sir JoM
Si R.
• As it hour Duty to provide Law?, by
and Opj>rtiEons may be puniihed, when it _
wc are nalcfs obiigeJ to obviate fuch Pra^ices
PuniQimtnts necesrary ; nor are we only to bcj
iL-fliois, bmukca^vay. as far as it is pplfible.ehe
of Guilt. It is to no Paipok Punifhn^enis arc
they can be evadtd, or tha.i Rewards are offered^
by any mean Aniike* be withheld,
' For this Rcafoo, Sir, I think it neceflary fl
tbe Inter.i oriliis Claufe^ the raoH ^voarab''!
Oaufe in the 3\\i, majr Icfe ita E%A by a Pt
£<iy?- IjrJin, anJ the JhU Jiight cf tradittg
iifJifJift ibe uff itc J Company of Af^rciranJf sjT
ti the Ee^ hJiti ; Kaiiuilb^SSiiitig 'VL'hiih, ^-tffign
madt in Grtal Briiasn upon Shipj «nd EfftSi A
Suhjtfii sf ffTtign Naihni or Pf^vrrt traJimg U
dill : Be it fatthtr tna^tdf hj the jiuthsrit^ ajbr.
^JfvraKtez madt afttr tbt Daf V"
iVii'frj or to t6i SuI'jeHs ll-trtef", trading to aitd J
Indiest or from ere Part ihtrtrf to anathi
and taktn to bt [void] lo ell laitnti, Co73jiiu£i:
P^fii •whatjite'uir.
4>td vihireai AJfaraait on the Ship or E
alitn Enemies ra ikh Km^dfrn^ ert grtatfy pr,
true Inttrtfi ihertef, and upon the Cafture rj" ft,
f Sit the real Laft JujiGir.ed tftiii falls upm th
Great Britain, *wj6fl bam;/ made fsKh /l^uraneei^
tisadtd, by the Autbontv afarffaid, tbat nf Affk**
to bt made dirtily or indireSiy on anf the Si»bt or
Subjtiii fj any Fringe nr Stale, mi rn Amity -wk
of Great Britain, at ihe Time /vch AffarafKt I
be of any Fsrre or Faltdity in La-w i. but Jhatt At
latently ConJJruSisn:, and Purpfts ivhatjorver,
Prwidtd ai'iaaji, ihal if bit Majefiy fkt^tl^
during the prefent War^ think fit, in Parfuaner^-i
ttntained in en Ad made in the lafi SeJ^vr. «f p
tiiitd^ An Ail for prohibiting Commerce with
^ ihe Prohibilians and RefiriSions rf dommurctt
thereof; then, end is fuch Cafe, it Jhalland
make AJfu-rance an facb Cammerie, or afty p^^
thiȣ btmn iantaimd to tbt antrary nttvjiibfl^
( 201 )
Amp^n hv wliiffc my Mjb, hov^ivcr incliofd CO ftrre kit Appo t«, Cto.
;< d(fnm<icd uf the Righi ot « Viiluniier. *' 'T-t'^-
.J have volururilj' applied lo chc OfficcfS of \./t'^'^
ami uttrr having btcn rcjeflni by ihcm a*
;xrvicc. tiRve been drsggcd oo BoArd wichia a
tft, pcrhAp* hiihin a few Miiyrs .'.rieiwanis, to under-
ib«Hi)id{bipi, wuboat liic Mernof VoiUiiIicrs.
When any Man, Sir, h«* been rrjcflcd by the Sn-OfS-
' to hive 3 Certificate givca bim, which fliali be
'roai Aa li]ipirii,ihai, ti »ay other Commander
r ."i.jre fivounbly o( his (^alitications, he m^iy al-
(ihc P;i%-ilcge oti VotiintKf, xnd be entitled to ihc
'wiiich be dclcrved, by hia Readinds to enter the
.bcf'ice.
It ;och PravifioRi are not matlr, this hatrful PraAlce. a
t. Sir, cominon and notonoiii, aod very difcouriging
II would ffiter the Sfrvice of the Public, may fu fir
ia>), ihii HO Mad 0isll be ab!e to denominaie Itimrclf «
''oinaticr. ordsim the Reward propofnl by tbe Bill.*
Sir Darin Wager
Sir.
!: it not commoji for Men :o receive Injufies without *m,„,41
pptyi&g fur Rcdrcl'i, when it nuiy certainly beobtained. If Wac^-
y Prixaediflgilike tbolc which arermvcompliincd of, had
ftii at the Bc4rd of Admiratty, (hey hid been
.«nrurcd and rcdrelledi but i> no tuch Accufa-
: red, I ihtnk it m»Y pn>bably becoocluded, that
pe itrt have been committed.
• rgT ntiit Purpofc Oppretiiutji oF thli kind lliould be
pn^ded, il BOt eafv (o conceive ; lor the Officeti are not
Halt rtwarded for laiptrHing Saiton, As ihcrerorc tc is
probable thu any Man tfli wickedly or ctuclly wichsat
ipcaiiofl; 41 I have r^cvc beird uny lucti Injury com-
of by thnfc that Itiftcr'd it, 1 cannul b«it imagine, that
r Report!, which »ri{e from Millake, or arc
'dt, . ;a iRJure tbe OSccti, uul ubflrjd the S&t-
i
I BiUimore.
'That the PrafticT now complalnei! of. is verv fte-
"I, asd, whatTVfr may be the Tetrptat'Oti to it, (iich aa
-> Day jirDdiicti tome InttiiKei of. I have Reai'on* I'or al-
C With great Confidence. J b^ve, within tfaefe few
^P.M I woi accidcniall/ upon the River, icforio'd inylcif
^ tMB Wateriaca ienomioioun* dniu'^ by Po«c« into the
V,t VII D i ** ' Service
Sir John
Ko/ijji.
( 202 )
Anno i4,GeoScrvice CO which they hud iraluotarily offirr'd theaiffiw
a 17*0 few Day* before, lb* Realon* of fucli OpptcfT
^»T^^ Bufioefs of ihofc Grotkioea w tnqiure, whom H_
coirulU with the CVe of bin FWtt but to inutrdfK tki'
Courfc of Wickedncff, to hinder it frp:n huftntuig tkr lU-
wards offier*d by the Publk, Ji the Provioc* of the Rqirrta*
tatives of ihe People. Aod I hope, S:r. toflic rroTdb«ifl|'
nude in ihi&Cafe.'
Sir John Norru.
Si R.
* If my fuch Pra£bcn bid been frequent, to v,%in
be imputrd, chut thofc who emplo)' tiicir Urei m Mi
Bufinefs fbould be Scnngcrs to ihcm f Why lure do
Dlsinis been made by (hole that hare been irjarcu t Ot
Inould Officers cxpofe themfelvs to the hm:d of
without Advantage.' I uotiol difcover why tbefr "
ftimlij be inB.^ed, nor how they raald have beert cc
atKl therrforc think the Officer* oi the Navy may beef
from the Imputation, ^vilhollt fiirlhcr Enquiry.*
Sit johfi Barmrd.
S 1 a,
' It is in raia that Ob;e£tion5 are made, if the FaOi
which they are fouoded may be dented at ptealcic . ji\
thing i< tnarccaly tlua to aeny. becaule Proofs arc nee
quired of « Negaitve. BjI »% Nrg»ttvei require 00 PtOOC
fo they hare no Authority, nor can any Coo(ct)urbctr l.t Ji
duced from them, t might tbeiefjte fuffer the :
rosin 10 tbcir prefcnc State, alEeried on one lideL^ :.
have Rcalxins to belwve thrm, and donbtrd oa I)
without Keaibot . for fuiely he etnnoi be Eaid to taSoti?
quellJOD» an AiTcrtioa oaly becaufe he does not kcow it le br
true.
' Bui as every QueRloB by which the Liberty ot a]
may beaffcAed.it of Importance fufficitni toirquite tliMl
Evidenre (hould be fnpprcfled by whkh it m»y be
1 cannot but tbinh it proper that a Comminec IbonAll
formed to exsminc the Cotidjft of the OSccri ia ilitt flB'
licular i and, in Confidence of the Veracity of thoft
whom 1 received my Infoitnation, I here promifeco
fuch Evidence ai fliaU pot an find to CODironHy
Doubt.
• If tliii is not granted, Sir, the PaAmofl fimd nCBttd
and allowed ; for to doubt, Bt>d rcAife Evidence, a a D^iv
rf Prejudice aikd ObQinacy tvithoui Examj-le. N'orutlfa
loc ddIv <Jbjcilioa to the Claud before u\ which appon
«7
S:r John
tHarnatxL
( 103 )
■nth re^d lo tti« Qualifications l*peci£ed at Anun i'
Uk Rcwtfd. The RcM-tnl ought not kj be con> i* i74'J>
%ko fiult hereafter be invited by the Protnilc ef
in dieSctvice, while tliofe who cnctrcd into tc
ny fach Profpcd, sre condemtied to Dangers and
ithcMit *■ ftficompcace. Where XIrrit it e(]iial,
■%i ougUt to be rquAl i and lurciy where there J9
rt:. iiic Keward, |)ropoled by the I'lrlianicnt as aa
iracot to Bravery, oughc noi to be JcU. To be
^rom U)c Advantigei which others kivc obtained
voiding (he Service, cannot bin depref^ the Spirit
bofc Zrjl and Courage incired them, at the Begin-
c War, to enter into the FIcex i lod to dejc^ thole
I ive exped Defcoceand Honour it ocitber pru-
lit
< If, in my Oprnion, proper to offer the fame Re-
licrluinatcly to all UM (tnW accept ici Rewants
•^"riiuurd to Delert, and oo Man can jullly
y -1 cannot perform ; there ooghr, therefore,
t j.'iii<[icUon made between a Seaman bj* FtuffffioD,
II Icarneii his Arc at the Expcucc of long 1-jipe*
bour and Hamrd, and a Man who only enten the
(e be iiutclef] oo f^nd, and whocin only incoin*
Mitori (ill he has be^n tnllrmHcd by chetn.
ein, Sir. to lue a coo^derable Dcfe^l in our N.ival
u. (bat Wngej are noc proportioned to Abiiiij^ ;
ic it niiy not be now unfcafonably propofcd, that
itU be paid according to the Skill which ihey
ndt a Provilion by which an KmuUiioa wouUl be
l{ ihcD, and that |ndul>ry excited, wJiich now
For wanr of Kncoungrment t sr.d thofe Capacities
^ " -mbcr ill Ignorance anil Sloth, froin
■■^ any Advantage by Superiority of
tft W*lp6l«.
hii Cbarge, Sir, however pofuively urged, ii gt- Sv tLri^m
-' ■ '■- Dcclartiioni of tbrle Hooouiabk Gerr Walpoli
' to evince, ftnce it ii oot probable that
I riDiit would not have found faoie i-rienJ to
Bicd ihc/c Mirdfhipt (o the Admiralty, and no
Vataiiont could have been made withont their
Cai from doubting that, by AccJest, or
., foinc Men have been iientfd in ibii
yil no( in ihe Power uf lay /Umiaittiattoo
D d : in
( «<>4 )
luM»t4,Geo to nuke all thoft honcR or wife whom thty *n nbVigcii n,
^ II. IT*-,, employ i and vvhcn grtai Affairs »re dcpemiirg. nunuw: O'-
^l^'VNJ cumit^DCC) csnciot jlwayj be aiccrided lo If the Vig\U»i«|
of thofe who art entrahcA utih ihechitf Dirrilioool
NumbeTS of fubordinate Olficera be fuch, that ccirfBp<.j
Itcei ire not frequent, »t\d thrir Jtiitice lucb, thai tt
never unpaniOied when legail)' detcflcd, the mod fli
quirer can cxpe^ no tnore. Power wiU to(ne:imei L«
ami PuairbTncfit romnimei be rfcspcd.
■ I: is, Sir, cafy to be conceived ihil a Rrpon mj
tttme grneral, iho* the Pradice be very rare. The FjA
tnuitiplied at often as it )a related, andcviry Mau m) o
the fame Story twice, imaginn that it ■■ laid < '
foni. and excUims agaiaH the Tytann^r of tnc c :.. —
Ntvy.
* Bui thefe, in my Oplnino, Sir. arc Qoeflin'*-
remote from the prereut AfFttr, yet hy no meAni <
it. The Qoedkitt now before n* it, not what l>«
hare hero cotnmttled in the Execution of Irnpiefftrft,
JmprefTrs ihemfelves tnay become left itecciLry i M(
Naiton may be fecurrd uithout Injury to Individusii f
how the Fleet may be manned u'iih left Dctmnent to C«
merce ?
* Sir, the Reward now propofed {■ intended la e i
Men to enter the Srrvice without Compn'fion ; and if
Expedient be no: approved, soother ought to be fuj^_
Fur I hope Gentlemen arc united ir> their Endejvoutt ulI
ojt loipe Method of Security (o the PuWiC, and dof
ilfi'fl (he Proceeding! of the Comottdce, that.
Fleet* lie ina^Lve and ufcicfi. they mty have ia
iiity to repraicb the Mtmliry.*
6ir John Norrli.
S tt,
■ 7*ho' it it not r^ceffyiY to enter into «n scTDrfK
mination of the Geailcman'i Propofat, yet 1 canaat
bbfen'e, that by making it he difcovrrs hinifell unacc
with the Difpofiiion of Seamen. itnt>ng whom tKKbioj
fomiich Difcoittent a? the Sufpiciori of Pirmlity.
one Man, in the fame Rank, rcrcive larger V\'i|[ci
other, be who rhotwht htmfr'f injurei, aj he whe
irfi will atways think, would be to far from rjiet
Abilitiei to attain >n K^mlity >k!ih liii AlTucutc, tlml
w6iild pn^baltlv never he prevailed on to lay ki^ Miirid
the 'I'ackting. '■ ilt ij'.ltn, or wori; : v,
i^.e Ship xvciv :. ^ '" * iico/ui, Of tiik.'
lit J ihn
Norm.
»Ir.
( i05 )
G«rc.
!Dia£<T0f int.-oJucing DiflinflioBi imongMrt in
lUak, where rvcij- M^n that imagmei h'n M<rit
Imt^y tiare an Opponuniiy of ittenttiig the Injury,
lacb U no prodcnt Comniiindcr wtU venture to
*-fyn in ttiii Or« brcomes ihe judge of Mi own
tte will always ililcovcr {ome Kcat'on Tor th£
. u. *oo:hcr veiy difftrm: from Supcnoriiy cf De-
li by er)nirc|ucnce, be etcher enraged ordirpiricrd.
R^olrr 111 d«-(ett hU Commander, or betray him
nifi.oraoi oppolc ihem.
nbcr, tho* iinperfe£lly, a Story which 1 heard in
ttf «n Army in which looie Troopi received a
' rft than the rcil i a Parritnofly which coft dear
Bftttle. for (he difgallfJ Troop liid down
the Eoemjr, and luScrod Uietr Geoeral to
Annntj.Gca
II.l7t:.
Mr. Core
Wade.
».
tcMwiOt botcanctu with (he Honourshte Gentletnan ia cenenl Wad*
ihu thoCe who tre already engagcil io the
have borntiie F>iiigueiof a long Voj'X^c* and
: thU Hour rxpofing (heir Livct In Bjitle to
.. . ,, ^:hu of iheir Lountry, ought (o have the Uroe
« ctxr Rcwird pTopolcd with (bote who (hi!l hcre-
<Ax ihcnfelvei. Nor in my Opinion ought thoJe
!•< knhcrto been prrlTed loio our Fleets lu be diC
fron their Duty by an Exrlufion from the lame
ige; For if they were compelled to ierve in the
' ompelled when there wai not thu Edcou-
nileri, which, prrhapi, they would ham
.-:U been then propoted. Every M->n it leaO
^t he would hnvc accepted it, and compbin he
by tt.e Fault oi' the Governmrnt ; a Govcro-
*itf v.iU not be very zcaltiui to defend, while he
• tit Regard than otbcri ftooi whom no
-p espcded.
: new Rewordt, Sir, will add new Ala-
'1X1, and ao cqaal Dillrlbuiian ol Favour
an unihakm and iovblable Fidelity. Nothing
OD produce Saccer<, and nothing can fcctue Union
aautialitr uii jiillice.*
( 206 >
Aiuto 14. Geo
II 1740-
Sun. S«nd>'A,
Efti
Mr. Siodyi.
Sm.
» The Efficacy of Rewardi. and the Ntctfiiij'
partial Dinribution, are no aofroitful Subjcdi ior
but it may perhaps Lc more uCe(u\ ai present to ecu
foch I Dcgrre of Attention as the Qjcilion tnult fa
ledged to beferrc. to whom theft Rewardi art tl
and from what Fand they areexpeAed to ink.
With regard to thole who ate to claim the Ri
ihcy (eem very negligently fpecificd i fur ihry
guifhed only by the Charaflcr of having fcrvcd fi
a JDiflindion unintcjigible, without ExpUnatioa.
• It is, I Tuppofe, Sir, the Indent of the BiQ^B
fiiall mifs the Reward but by hii own FjhIi, t^^^
may be ctiquired, what ii to be the Fate of hh
be difabled in hit firit AdvcMure, whoui iti the i
Month of his Service, an unlucky Shot ihaM corn
RtnainiDg Part of hii Life to Inactivity ; Ai (be
formed, he mult be mircrablc without a R«oi»{
Ilia Woundi, which m-ike him uiublc to foppQ
will, tho* received in Defence of hu Couctry. <
to no Support from the Public.
• Kor » thii the only DrScuIty that may- arij
rpccifyiog of fo lorg a Service i for huw cui aoy
fhall enter on board the Fleet be tnfornied that lb
contiaue for five Veari i May we not all juAlj'
Alacrity, Unanimiry, and Prudence, may id « idi
Time redutx our Enemies to beg for Peace > Am
Sailors loft that Reward of iheir H3xard) ird tbcti
only becanfe they ha«e been rucccrifu! i What wi
lela than miUing their Bravery a Chtne or Foil]
aifhing them far aot protrailing the War byCiM
Treachery*
• But let us foppoic, Sir, thofc Defefli fupplird !
crplicite and dctcrmtnxe Specification, ihcrr w-ilM
an Objeiiioa which the prefent Suee of - ;J
not fufer to be anfwered. The Cot a
Greamefs of the annual Paymenf which ihi> Prop
qtjtrei, ooght to incite cTery MantocropJoT all bitj
in learch of fonc other Method equally cfiacMai
expcnfive. ■
« W» ham already. Sir. ^o.coo Se»men la oor
wkoBi Roc» more arc fpeedity to be added ; «vht4|
tbefc fhall demaftd his Stipend. ■ new Hiinhea oTl
mat be laid upon the Nsiioc i opon a Majiea. whM
arc mortgaged, whofe Rcvrnuci are antkipand, M
J
( ao7 )
TiKf cannot be bornewuhout Murmurs, nor increafed with- Anno 14, Geo
•i Sedition. !LiJi?'
• The Nation has found by Experience, that Taxes once ^^-rY^S^
imoU for jult ReafoDs, and continued upon plaufible Pre-
laaa, till they are become ^miliar, are aftenvards continued
^oa Motives Icfi laodable, are too produ£live ofloiluence,
lid ■» iDftrumenul towards facilitating the Meafurei of the
fiaifti^, to be ever willingl}^ femictcd.'
CM. Bladen.
Sib.
* Itii obvious that when the Balance it unequal, it may be Coi. Blader:.
^tevdlo an Equitibrium, ai well by taking the Weight out
'one Scale, ai adding it to the other. The Wages oflered
' the Mcfchants overbalance, at prcfcnt, thofe which are
tipaliBd by the Crown ; to raifie the Allowance in the Ships
: War. will be to lay new Loads upon the Public, and will
CflModc the Merchants, whofe Wages mult always bear
• fame Proportion to the King's. The only Method then
■e maaiDs, is to lighten the oppofice Scale, by retrain-
f Cbe Merchants from giving Wages in Time of War be-
ad a certain Value; for as the Service cf the Crown is
■■■ore immediately necLiTary to the general Advantage,
■■ thai of the Merchants, it ought to be made more gam-
i. Saflon, Sir, are not generally Men of very exrenfive
Wt'i tad therefore we cannot cxptA tlat they Ihould pre-
^Acgeaeral Good of their '. <;. :iy before their own pre-
H iMETcft, a Motive of I'uch 'c -vcr that even with Men of
vioBiRekarchcs, relin'iiSent>nicnt&,.indgFneroui>£iIiJcation,
tfiem often that it lurmounti every uthcr Conlideratlon.,
LcKd Baltimore.
Si a.
' To the Expedient which the HonourabV ^■^i,t]en)r,n Lord
• ^ke lift ha» fuggellcd,nnd which hr . .^e confrlled ^'imur^-.
have placed in the ttrongelt Light, r- ■ .- 'jujcflions may
aaifed, which I am afraid ^ill no' ■■:- be removed.
' The Srff,- Sir, which onurs : -<.- on thi' Oiort Reflec-
I li not le(s than the Impofliv.' ::> of putting .^is Scheme
DBOatioa. The Prefcripdun a Wsgcs which he propc-
miMjf be eluded by a thou-^nJ Artifices, by iidvinced hla-
y|||y gratuitoui Acknawic gments, the Payment of Money
■aaesded Services, or by lecrct Contra£li, which it uiil
■■ latereft of both Parties to conceal.
Boi if thisObjcQion could be furmounted by Severity and
Baooe, would not this Eipedient help to dcleat the gc-
I laication of the Bill ? A Bill not dil'gned ai an imme-
diate
inno
14, Geo
IL 1740
Mr. Tracy.
Mr. R>4«.
( 108 )
i'ate Rerource, a ncre temporary Projcft la
Fieeijforti c prercntYeir. butai a M"ho(i for tt
only OnitiuAion of the Britilh Power, ibc Difficulty otfi
■ing ouc Sbipi of War.
* It u. I hope, Sir. the Intrntion of every Nfas who \axt
fered h'li Sentimenu on thit OccaHon. to conuivc ioac
n\ Encourage ED enc for Shiiicd, wliich finll oot cmiy
tbcm to iSiA their Country at itic i\ti\ Summoat, Im
allure orhers to qualify thrmr<ivci fur the public Scnricc»l
cogagiagin the lame PtoUfSion.
• rbu is Dili/ la be (tone by making the Ctndatimd
Sailors lerimifcrablc, by entitling ihrm to p.- .
nouriog ihem with Uillin^'ons. Bui by Ii
chants Wagci.if fuch Limiuiiona are indeed pDl:.bic, 'f,i-^
we may palliate ihe prefent Dilireli, we dtall tlimmifit
Number of oar Sailats, ajul, thereby, oot oaly coBindl
Commerce, but endanger our Coontry-'
Mr. Tncy.
SiK.
' I know not for what Reafons the prefent MeihoJ
rancing Rcwraidit ai entrance ii pi^tiiled, of whicfa,
fpccioui il might appear, the Succcis by no ffieana encc
the Continuance. The Sailors, tho* not a Gct»r]
Men much difpofcd to Reflexion, or qualified for Kai
lion, are not yet fo votd of Thought as not cifily to :
that a fmall Incrcafe oF conlliint Wagei is of ra«~e
ibui (cTcral Pounrli to be paid only at once, and wkkk
Iquiftdeied airoonatifaey arc received.
• Infiead iheielore of rellraining the Waen of the
cJiaot), il feems probable that, by railing lliok of the '
we may man the Fleet with molt kxpedicion : aaJ
Metliod ot raifiag the Wage* wilt be co fapprefa the adi
Mon.y.'
Mr, Ryder (Attoroey General}
Si a.
• If the Sum of Money now paid by Way oT Adi
be ftippowd to hare any ElTc^, if it an be imagint
Nnmber of Seamen, however inconfidcnbV. are
ii into the Fleet, i: is more ufrfully r. rSan h
fuppofed robe when funk intothec.t ^e»,
d«l into fmsll Payment*
The Advance-Money Is only poid to ibofe tdat eo*
no Voluniiera prefVni ihcmfelvr*, no MoDcy ii paid, ai
Nation doth not fulTcr by the Olfei : Bot if the WafcaMI
nifrd, the Ejipcncc will be certain, whhout cbc Ccrnmy ■!
uii
(209 )
iJiUtt{e; for thoTe that enter volantarily into the Fleet, Annot4,Geo^
MU receive no more than tfaofe that are forced into it by an ^'' '74^
iMncfi; and therefore there, will be nolnclttment to eater C^^^V^^^
vinesc Compulfion. Thui every other Inconvenience will
llHUl, with (he Addition of a new Burthen to the Nation ;
•■r Forcea will be maintsiDcd at a greater Expence^ and not
miU with leT) Difficulty.'
lord Baltimore.
Sit,
* I ciDBot but concur in Opinion with the Hon. Gentle- . Lord
warn wbo Ipoke lall, from my own Acquaintance with the Biliimor^
SniMnn and Habits that unaltenbly prevail among thofe
Wkm kavc been aecuftom'd to the Sea ; a Race of Meo to the
fcft Degree negligent of any future Events, and carelefa about
.luiv novifion againft diiUnt Evils i Men who have no
Tfeaaghcs at Sea bat >how to reach the Liitd. nor at Land
bvMv to Iqaudcr what they have gain'dat Sea. To Men
JSkm Chefe it may eafily be imagined tiiat no Encouragemeot
iiMHl to the Temptation of prefect Gain, and the Oppor^
MW17 of prefcDt Pleafure.
; 'Of Ail any Mao, Sir, may convince himfelf, whofliall
MBt 10 s Crew but half an Hour ; for he ihal] find few among
l^dNM* *ho will not for a foull Sum of prefenc Money, fell
■^ diftant Profped of Affluence or Happincfi.
L * Wkctlur I am miftaken in my Opinion, the honourable
^JilBbenwbo have long commanded in the naval Service,
'^OHI 06I7 determine ; and I doubt not but they will agree,
MotiveciD be propofed to a Sailor eijuivaient toim*
I Reward.*
fir Wmian Yonge.
Sir.
* That fbme DiAinQIon ought to be made to the Advan- _. T»-it'^
fe|eofVoIuntiers, if we intend to mannour Fleet without Yonge. '
MBpuifioo, ii obvious and incontelUbii:; and to avoid the
Mnffity of Compulfion ought to be the chief End of this
Ml lor nothing can be lefs ta the Advantage or the Nation,
An ID continue the Ufe of fach ungrateful Methods, an^
ynkcrcare thepublic Expence.
■ Wt ought, therefore, in my Opinion, to determine upon
MM pecoliar Reward, either to be advanc'd upon their
Ikhbcs into the Service, or paid at their DiTmiffion froia
■Bntma I Ck, Sir, noReafon for hoping that all the En'-'
■Mfemeat which can be offer'd, will raiie Voluntiers in »
F«dpeBC Number toftcure oar Navigation, and aflert our
Vol. VII. E e Sovereignty*
( 210 )
Sorerei^ncy. it feemt no: proper m confine oar ConltalBwei
to (his I'lTC of the Bill; for fince Comptilfioo u on auji
OccslioBi apparently ncceflkry, tome Method reqolitt to'
coiifidcr'd, m which it may be IcgaJ.
■ What new Power ought to be placed Jn the MagiAnK^I
what I'ime, and what ReHriflions, I am fir from albttiu
the Prorince of lirteimining ; but thai Tome Maiuru ml
be taken for compelling thofe who canoot be pcrfoaU.
aod difcsvering thofe that will not offer thcmfclvct. uoHt
sdm'n of Doubt : andai ihcMagillrate isat present «tittog|
try Authority for tliii Furpofe, it is evident tkat his Power
mull be extended for the fame Rcafon as it wai given la ai
picfent Degree, the gcoeraJ Beacfic of^ihc whole Coo.
munitjr.
Sir John Barnard.
S I a.
Sir Jobn * 11 the Intent of ihii Bill be to enable one Parlofihc
BarrUrd' Nation to enAave the other i if the rtaufibleand iavita|
Profcfiions of encourjgjng btkI incrcaung Seamen, are M
terminMc in \'iolrnce, Conllrainc. and Oppreffion i U li a-
fieceflary to dwell loneer upon particular Claufet. TbC
Intention uf the Bill ii ucieHable, and dclervci not the Ccn-
mony of Debate, or the Formi of ccratnoo Regard.
* 1/a Man, Sir. is liable to be forr'd from the C*n BOa
own ptivace AHitiis, fiom hit favoorilc SclitDiei vf Lift^
from the EngagrmeDU of domeflic Ifcdrroeff, ik dK
pTc(f€& of near Advantage, and fuhje^rd, without hii Cm-
km, to the Command of one whom he haies or dre»d>, a
pctbapi defpiict, it requires no long Atgument to fhew. tbt
by whatever Autboriiy be is thui treated, h« it rcdoccd ta
the Condition of a Stave, to that abjc^, to that bauful StaM;
which every Engli/hman has been taught to avoid u tb
i-Uzard of hii Li^,
• It is therefore eridect, that the law which ctndi lo caefe
tucha Power, fubvcrii our Ccmflitudoo ai fir ai ta EJitft
extend; a Conlliuiion, which wa> originally fbn»<d \i*
Barrier agninfl Slavery, and which one Age awr juw^cr i*i
cadcavour'd to iltengthcn.
* Soch a Povrer, therefore, io whatever Handi k wtf U
lode'd, I IhxlJ always oppofe. It ii dangeroai. Sir, u> a-
frufaAyMao with abloluie IDominton, which ii iddaa
luowa to be impartiaJIy excrciled, and whuh oftan
thofe cormpc aod infolcot. whom it Andi bcficrt^au
lionrft.
• The Bill prc^wTeioaly Cocoungcmenti aad Ec __
mtnt may ba given by hia Majclly, wichooc ■ new ivvt
ii iddflB
r^au i^H
f 2M )
[n t&cfcibR draw op ao Addiers, aad ceafe eodebacr, Annou,Geo
tb«« itnoProfpeft of AgretmeDi.' U, 17*0.
r. WinaiagioB.
5i 1.
[The PijrmrBt of an antnal Sitary wilJ, In ray Opinioa, be Mr. Winn^n-
[^a Deptt joconvemrntaod daogeroui. The fcarly ton-
ku brco sircjdy eltimated, and arifct lo a Sum
ikbbic in our prrlcnc Stxe. Nor ii ibe Nccefficy
f!t> Uic I'ublic Burthen, a ^rthcn whicb u alrcadjr
ilwrac, the only Objc^ioa to tbii Propofa).
biag tan mote coDinbutc todi(pirii t).< Naiioa, than
ike Coniequencet a(» War, and to make the Ca-
cU, when the Pleiidres of Viflory and friumph
n forgotten ; wc Quil be ioclui'd rather to bear Op-
and Inluli. than endeavour after Rrdrefs, if we (idrtcA
I Mtd oar PoAerity to cndlcra Ru^iions.
ificesofibe prefcnt Pronfion tor fuperanatuTHl
Sailors, ia no mcosGderiible Tax iipua th« Put>>
ii not lefs barrhcn'd by it for tlie Manner of coN
tt, by a Deduflioofrgtn the Sa>tort Wigci: fbr,wh*<
paya tt immediately, itis the ultimate GiU of the Na-
~ the otinoll that can Lit allowed fur thi? ParpoCe.
' be conieiTcd.Sir, ihe Perfons eniicicd 10 the Pennon
rntly ditiinguilhM in the Rtll ; by which, as it
It, any oftbc wotlhlcb SuperfluiticiafaShip, cvea
IKS of the CapUins, may, after dve Years, put in
1, and plunder that Nation whicb they never
:^doItfctBk,Sir, the Efficacy of this Method will bear
tioo to the Expence of it ; for I am of Opinion,
'of ihc Sailort will be much alfcAed by the Prorped
iPcniioa. I am therefore fordiKling them with
I» W be given them at their EntrBnoe, which wjll
a tingle Payment, and probably hll our Fiecti with
r 1 : cditKni. (ban Methods which appear nore rciia*d,
-dt of deeper Mediutioo.'
Cage.
Si B.
Nocfatfig ii mart clear than that a yearly Fcoiioir will lo^j g^
ItM ihc Nation without any Adv.int.ige ; and u it will
: 0mfr" to innamerable Fraud*, it u a Method which
! CD be rrjc^ed.
, JO the iifw Power, Sir, whicb h propofcd to be placed
|at.J' ■ ;:igitlratci, itutidoobrcdiy reduceierery
i^lj. . jv-cry, tnd 11 lacoaJiUcfit wi;h that na-
£c a Cora
( 21? )
Annoi4tGco toral Rigbt to Libertv, which is conlirmeJ inJ (efimii«i
II. 1740 ConllititticAi. The sill therefore is, in my Opiciu,^
^■^"Y"^^ live in all its Parts, of a Tiendency generally pern
cannot be amended but by rcjei^ing ic*
Mr. Pelham. ■
S t K,
Mr.Fdhtm, ■ « Icannot butthink it nfcrflaiy, ibar, ob [bisQx4l
1eafl> Gentlemen Aoald remit ehe Ardour oif Difpuui'mj
Uy tbi Am of Rhetbrig aCd'e, that chry Ibouldl rtlErtVJ
Vitand their Satire forQueflions of Jcfj Imparunae.'
unite, for oDce, ifaeir End'eavouj-s, tbat ibis ABtita^]
with no (^ftrufiiont but from its naiurdl Di^julif.
* We are now,Sir, engaged in a V\ ar with a tsim^\
of the firft Rank in Power, yet by no Mcam contij
in itfelf ; and, by its AHiunces. extrcj&ely formidibi.
are-expofcd, by the Courf« of our Trade, and the Siin(
our Enemies, to many ineviiable lAtSea, aa^ baveuol
of prevcBting our Merchanis from being fclx-d, id
DsngerorExpencetoihe Spani^ds, butb/ cuvcring^
witli our Squadrons. '
' Nor are we.Sir, to fatlsfy ourfelvcs with hvehiA,
the DefigDs of the Sparjiards ; our Honour drmatidil
ihould force them to Peace upon advantageous TeraJ
we fliould not repulfe. but attack ihem ; n^sr ofilvt
our own Trade and Potlefliont, but rndargcf tbein.
•It is by no Means certain. Sir, that, in theProffcit
thefe De(igDs,-«e ftal] tiotbe intctrupcfid hy thtlnj
Jealoufy of a Nation far more powerlqj, whtife FV
ought therefore to be able to rcfift. 1;
• A vigoroui Exertion of oar Strength will probatd
intimidate any other Power that may be inclined to ^
' 01 enable ui to repel the fnjuriea that fhill be oiTered;
and Delay can only confirm our open Enemjes in tl
|linacy,and animate chore that hare faitberio cooi
Malignity to declare lagitnll: u;.
• It is, therefore, Sir, in nodegiee priitfcRtto*
Joconveniencies of the MeafuKS propofed, for accon
what every Man feems cquilly 10 dtdre ; to declaiii
the Expedients offered in the Bill as pernicious, am
oppreffive, contributes very lirtle to |he FrodualoiL!
Means. That our Affairs wi!t notadmil of long t
and that the piefent Mc:hods of raifing Seamen are (
tjul, i> nniverfapy allowed ; it therefore evidently
Sir, that fome other xnuJl be fpeedily Itruck ont*
• Ithiakit neceflary topropofe.ihanbe^* ' ■
into ^ Comminee to-morfow Moraiogj l«
tjO.
< ai3 )
lie on this Occtfion, wtit btirg with tbrm no other Pif- Anno i4,<ie»
icfau Znl tor tbeir Loumry.' " *740.
Speaker then refuniej the Chair, and theChatrmaD of
rttt< reported, chnt ihex haJ made fcnne Progrtfi}
ErV Leave to fit spin.
I ;d. Agreed lo the Repon of a Bill for opening ■
to Mtd fiom Perfu ihio' RuiTii : Ordered it to be eq-
a third trmc. iind palTcd the Bill for the morecafy
irery of Small Debts ; Ordered it to the Lordi.
.CoDtmiiicr, went ihto' the Bill to intkmnifjr Piotell-
I of Krt.itesof l'»pilb,.tc.
4lh. To a graiu! Commince took intofiirtheT Conft.
the Dili fur the EncouragtnicDt of Seamen, and for
fficnlirr Manning bu Majclt>'i FJeet. when a (Jlaofe vm
by which c I . was prupoied to be advanced lo an able
. and ^1 toever)' other Man that fhou^d enter volun.
lohii Majcll)''i Service, after 10 Dayiud within 60.
unaoiagton.
Si a.
Thk ii a Clause ia which no Oppofiiion can be appre- Mr. Wknninc
f, ai Uiofie Gentlemen who declared their Difippioba-
*llkt former, were almolt ar.animous in propoling this
aa the IttSt cxpcoGre, and the molt hke\y to
: Time for the Reception of Votuniier; upon ihii
1. ii. Sir, in ipy Opinion, j'ldicioudy dct^rniined. If
tevdcd 10 a K'C:tcer length, or left unccttain. the Kc-
lofe its kfncacy, the Sailon woald neglcfl that
try mi|;h: accept at any time, and wouM only have
to the Ship* of War when they coald find co other
■tn.
cannot conceal my Aprebenfioni, that ihii Bounty
aJoaehc (ufficicni to man oar Fleetiwith proper Ex-
ij and thst at A!Iuremen» may be oteftil on ore
Force will t« found oneibry 00 the other, (hat the
nay not on!y be intrtttd to engage in the Service by
of a Reward, bat by (he Fear of having ij>eir Negli-
to accept It ptintlhed. by being compell'd into the lame
and forfeiting their Claim by tUying to be com'
Lord BilUnere.
Si a.
• Toibe Reward propoTcd in diia Cltaf*. I bavt dcclaird
! cte tanamx ConJcrcDce on this Bill, thai I have no Ot>-
jeakw.
Mr. Wiimjfig'
unu
( 214)
Amw»t4.C^*f-j«fli&n.«nd therefore hare no AmcnJnKnt to rroptr, a
n. 1740- ccp[ with regard to the Time limited for rbePavmeRL
• Afc our need of Seamen, Sir, is immediate, wfa^ fimU
not a Law for their Encouragement immedatdjr oputJct
What AdMtiugcs can aiife from Delay* f Or «^)r hi
that proper to be advanced now. that wiU be prepcf b
l«ueniy Di)sf Thatall ibe lime between ibe BnaAiatail
Operation of ibii I^wmull be lot), it evident 1 for wkowfll
crici for two Pounds, that miygain fi»e by wilii-Mitif
hiovfclf ftom the Service twenty Dayf longer?
• Nor do I think the Time now limited (it(baea*i nnf
Sailors who arc now m the .Service of the MerrloBti, iskf
not returit foon ctwugh to Lay Claim to the Hoaiuy, mkt
woald gladly accept of ii, ar.d who will eidternot ItoW Itl
Crown without it, or will fervc with Difgull and CocDfiltlsdi
ft} the LoTb of it cfttinct be imputed to their fiickMjrdA<£t,
but to an Accident agaiml whicb tbej cojid 001 pn.vide.'
Mr. Winnitigton.
S r K,
« Tbo' I think the Time now fired by the B'lf r,c,:«.
as I b^>pe that oQr|»dent Eiigcncjr will tie but <
tintunce, and that we (hall fooa be able to rjiCc ;. .
e« at s cheaper Rate, yet, ai the Reafont aDedgcd fa:
lerauoo^ihc Time may appear to odien of inofc next:
ih-in to mc, I (hall not oppclc the Amendment,*
Sir John Darnud.
S 1 K.
• With regvd to the Duration of the Time fixed kt tli
Adranccmetitofthii Bounty, we may have Lcifare {n '■' ' ■
rate i but farejy il muA be readily granted by thi
have rxpaii-itcd fo copioufly upon the prcfent t
our Affun, that it ought immediately lo ctHnti
ii thii be the gcner^il Ueirnnination of the Hctifc, -.
can be 9>oie proper than toaddrefj hit Mcjelty to ,.,
rruclam.'.tioii. an Advance of £ve Pouodi, iniind 1
which Juve been hitherto given i that, while wr ?.it\
irg other Mealurei lurihe Advanugeof oar C
in which we have already coecartcdj may be .
CUtioB.*
Mr. Pulteoey.
S 1 R,
.. p^ • I "ke thii Opportunity to lay before the Hf
GricvancB which very much rctardi the EqaipokenT
Tkcu, ud which nioA be redrcAd before nnx Mc.
Sir John
BanurJ.
( "5)
olingthe Sailori to the public Service can be purrued Annoii Geo
the leaft Prababili^ of Sacceri. II. 17^.
3Uenratioa» Sir, has informed me, that to remove the 0^\^'^^
blioB of the KiDg*i Service, it is not neceflary to raifc
Tag^s of the Seamea, it ii neceSkty only to fecure them ;
■CiffTir/ to deftroy thofe hateful Inlefts that fatten in
A ud Debanchery, upon the Gains of the Indufirioua
lOBCft.
Vben a Sailor, Sir, after the Fatigues and Hazards of
{ Voyage, brings his Ticket to the Pay. Office, aod de-
ft bii Wagei. tbe defptcable Wretch to whom he is o-
1 aoapply, looks upon his Ticket with an Air of Im-
■cc, acknowledges his Right, and demands a Reward
ntnu Faynent t with which Demand, however exorbi-
iW Ncceffities of his Family oblige him to comply.
m tUs manner. Sir, are tbe Wives of the Sailors alfa
d wha they come to receive the Pay of their Hof-
i| Women, diftrefled.frieDdlefs. and unfupported; they
lligcd to cndore every Infult, and to yield to every Op-
DO. And to fuch a Height do thefe meroilefi Exaftors
Acir Extortions, that lometimes a third Part of tbe
es is deduflcd.
rhof. Sir, do the vileft, the meaneft of Mankind, plun-
bofe who have the highelt Claim to tbe EQeem, the
iiade, and the ProteAion of their Country. This is
Uid(bi|> which witb-holds the Sailors from our Navies,
onea them to feek for kinder Treatment in other Coun-
Tbis Hardfhip, Sir, both Jultice and Prudence call
01 10 remedy i and while we negteft it, all our Delibe-
UWillbeinefiettoal.*
Ir.Soathwell.
SlE.
Of the Ibrdfliips mentioned by the Hononrabic Gen- jj^^ Soothmll
IB who ijwkc lafi, I have myfelf known an Infiance,
rfBirkaEue not to be mentioned. A Sailor in Ireland,
Ui Voyage, met with 16 much Difficulty in obtaining
Vagp, that he was at length reduced to tbe NecelSty of
kliBg ra the RcduAion ot near a fixth Part. Such are
Srieiruces with which thofe are opprefied, upon whom
VnKr, Security, and Happinefs of tbe Nation ate ac>
icdged to depend.*
•KobenWiIpoIe.
'1 is DOC witkoat Surprise that I hear the Difgull of g[r Robert
nlori aferibed to any Inegnlarity in the Payment of Wilf)Ole.
their
( 2i6)
Annoi4,Cco.thcir Wagei, which were never in any former Reign fopoaOo'
*1 '74»- ally difch»rgcd. They rttei**. at prefent. twelve MteUt
Ky'^/''\M>f piy in eighteen Months, wjtheut Deduction; /bthittbenim
never more tbaa fix Montbi for which moy Dtiatni raniiw
' dJt.Sir, the Pun^uiH^ of the Payment hii bnaductd
ef l.tie great iDconvcnieiKJei i for there bi» been frcijDCBLf
a Ncctfliry cf retnoving Men from one Ship R) uotbiT I
tndit iiihclbiteclRuleofihe Pay-OfliK, loiffign errry Mtt
to removed hi* full Pay. Thefe Men. whco the Gortrt-
nenE is no longer indebted to them, like the (i:A Oppoitoi-
SoHefertin^ the Service, and engagtog in BuGneli towkick
ty hrc more inclined.
* Thii ii not a chimerical Coinp)itnt funnded upM rM
Indancn.and produced only tocounitribalince an flhjf ft iw i
the faii andthe ConlVquencei are well known, fowctUdK
near 1400 Sailori arc computed to have been loA by dta
Pradice.'
The Speaker.
Si I.
The Speaker * The Nature of the Employment with whcch I sa<»
irolled, mikei tt my Daty to cr<dcavour that ihii Qnefici*
may be clearly umlcrllood, and thcCoadiHonofibe Sa«cti
wUh Regard to ihe Keception of their Pay, jollty icfctti*'
cd.
' I have not been able to difcover that any Sailoc fliai
prodoeing hi& Ticket, ivasever obliged (o rubmit ro ihc b^
aoQion of any P^rt ol hii Wagei, nor Dioald any Uerk «
Oficer under my lofpcAion, elcape for (ucb Opprrl&oa. tt
ievcrcQ PuniChiiieDl, and mod public Ceolurc ; i wooMgi*
him np tn the Law witboat Reiervr, and mark km nm^
nouiand ur.wtirthy of any Piull or Knip'oymeat.
' But there ate Extortionert. Sir. by which thole aahl||f
Mm, after having ferv'd iheif L«i)ntry niih Hoaefly M»
Courage, are deprived of the ;swful Cairn of DiIigcKCol
I^bcur. Thete are Men to whom it i* ufual amongU tte tt-
lori 10 mortgage their Pay before i| becomei due, wbc
sdranre their Money bat upon fbch Termi. ai cai
. raention'd Without JiMlignatioa. 'I hefe Mea advaatr
Sam which iiUiptilated. aod by Virtue of a Letter of
eeyare re imbuTs'dxtthcPjy-OSce.
■ This Corruption is, I fear, doi eonfin'd to fankitoj
Flacci, but hai Ipread eveo to the WcO-Icdics, wkterc, ttii'
his ovn Country, the poor Sailor ii (educed, by tiic TesfS'
ban of present Moiiey, to fell bis Labour co EnortMaiMj
sad Ufurcn.
( 217 )
nl to the Gentleman whether the [nOance which Anno M.Geo,
rted wai not ot this Kind. [ appeal lo hini with- ^^.^7^
•henfion olrtceivingaa Anfwer thai can tend to V-^iTNii^
what 1 bavealTened.
Soaihwell own'dit was by a Letter of Attoroey. ]
Sir, is indeed a Grievance pernicious and opprt-iTivei
Endeavour;, of mine (hall be deJicient in atttmpting
:; for by this th« Sii-or ii condemn'J, notwith-
ii fnJudry and Succefs, to perpetual I'o verty»aad
inly for the Benefit of bts Plunderer.*
■nfei were then read, Empowering the Juflice-i of ^jj^'^"^'"' T^(f'
I, kc. to iffue Warrants to. the Conllables, &c. to Seurch iprScii-
wral privy Searches, by Day or Night, for finding men.
caring fuch Seamen and Seafaring Men as lie hid
I tbemretves'; and making it lawful for the OfHcers
to make fnch Seaiches, to force open the Doors
oufe where they Ihall fufped fuch Sejmen to be
, if Entrance be not readily admitted ; and for fix-
Uiy on thole who Ihall harbour or conceal any Sea •
n Barnard.
Detate there-
on.
have been hitherto deliberating apon Qucftions, in jj^ iyi^„
»erfi[y of Opinions might ratiTally be txpeiled, Barnarl.
hich every M»ii might indulge his own Opinion,
it might be,w!ti;c'jc an/ Jsn;T.rna= Coi.K-quences
bite. But the Claufes new bef..i-i: us are of .i dilTe-
It Claufrs which canrct be tcsA without Altonilb-
I Indignation, nor defcnJed without betrayit.g tbe
I the bcli, the bravclt, and moll ufeful of our t'el-
as.
lele Cliufes, Sir, (hould paft into a Law, a Sailor
ive will become Terms of the (ame Signification.
[an who has devoted himfelf to the melt ufefiil Fro-
nd mOfl dangerous Service of his Coui.try, will fee
lepnvcd of every Advantage wh'^h he his laboured
, and made the mere p'fllve Property of thofe who
Security by his Valour, und owe to his Labour thrt
! which hardens them to Inlenlibility, and that Prido
li them to Ingratitude.
f mail the Sailors alone, Sir, be, .marked out from
Mbcr Orders of Men for Ignominy and Mifery t
oft they 'be ranked with itie Enemies of Society,
like VigaboBdi, and purfuol like the Thief and tba
VII. b' f . Mard«r«;
( 2l8 )
Anno 14, Geo Marderer, by public C^.cers ? How or when have tbe^ fo^
11. 1740. tetted the common Privilege of human Nsture, or tbegenen'
\^^/'\»J Proteftion cf the Laws of their Countiy? If it ii 1 joft
KUxim. Sir, th.>[ he whocontributes moll to the Wcl&reof
the Public, delerves moll to be proteAed in the Enjoyment
of his private Right or Fortune, (a Principle which furcly
will ncit be controverted) where ii the Mu that dam Aan)
forth and alTcrt. that he has juiler CUims than the brivc, the
honeft,'the diligent Sailor?
■ I am extremely unwilling, Sir, to engage in fo invidioci
an Undertaking, as the Coroparifon of the harmlers, inof-
fcr.five, refolutc Siilor, with thoTe who think themfelvn en-
titled to treat him with Contempt, to overlook hii Mcri^
invade his Liberty, and laugh at bis RemoBllraiicca.
' Nor is it, Sir, neceflsry to dwell upoa the peculiar Me-
rit of this Body ; of Men it ii fuflicirnt that they hare ik
fame Claims, founded upon the fame Reafons with onr owbi
that they have never forfeited them by any Crime, aid
therefore that they cannot be taken away, without the noft
flagrant Violation of the Laws of Nature, of Rcalbn, ad
of our Country.
< Let us confider the prefent Conditioo of a Sailor, kt
us reflect a little upon the Calamities to which Cufloai, tki^
not Law, has already made him fubjeA, and it will toic^
not be thought that his Unhappinefs needs any Aniavadoh
' He it already expcfed to be forced, upon ha Renil
from a tediojs Voyage, into new Hardfhipe, witfaott the Ji*
termiffion of a Day, and without the Sight of his Faai^f
he ii liable, after a ContraA for a pleafirgind gaiDfidVaf-
age, to be hunied away from his Profpe£ of fntereft. M
condemned, amidll OppreJTion and Infolence, to Laboor mI
to Danger, almoll without the Poffibility of a ReconpcMb
He has neither the Privilege of chuflng hit CocniliaMler,MI
of leaving him when he is defrauded and opprefled.
• Theie, Sir. i fay, are the Calamitiei to which be isM>
fubjeA, but there is now a PoiTibitity of efcapingthcm fk
is not yet deprived of the Right of Refillancc, or the PoM
cf Flight ; he may now retire to hit Friend, Md l»p»
te^cd by htm ; he may take Shelter in hit own Cooapi, mk
treat any Man as a Rubber, that ttiall attempt to faici kil
Doors.
• When any Crews are returning Home in Tim if
War, thiy are acquainted with the lingers of an lafnlk
but they comfort themfelret with contriving Stratag^i*
elude i(, or with the Profped of obtaining an Exenpcioa tnA
' it by the Favour of their Friendi : Profpe^ which ate ofn
hyna
I'ro 1
^s rre<]iieaily dcJl^airil, hui whicb yet M
»nd animate :nt if [nduftrjf.
Sir, Ihua^d fKcome a Law, the Satlar,
licnfetf 00 bh Return. Hiih (he I
fltaluir, will confttJcr hi» Country si i
Ht^iiicc tcfi to be detircd thia tny o-
Id. He will pr&bibljr feck, ia (he Ser.
I Prince, a kintlerTrcatmenc, and will
try but Itu own, to Ice him:eir at le^lt
•Men.
I, Sir, only girc the SeHmen new Rea-
t wilt tend likewile to aggr^ivnte (hofe
Imdy h.'ive produced a UwteiUitan of
■rceiy to be conqoered.
' ihc Navy, Sir, will hirdly be made
ireife of Fowei ) they whole Tyranny
their Fellow Subjects from the King's
:ould oaty depend Djxin the Ch>rac-
odeniion fur lue Pro'pccl oi m^noiog
ling F.sifcdiiioni, win probably, when
y a Law }ike ihi«, ftncl made atdoluce
I, indotgc ihemtdvej m ihc Enjoyment
[/. cooirive new Hirdfbrpi and Opprcf-
'ithoot Fear and wiifauut Mercy, riius,
cmly be tyrannical io itfc'f, but the Pa-
wiU give S;curii/ to the Ctuel, ind
rogaot.
U lesll any Mas bred from hti [nl^ncy
:nce, and iccullotned to difleient Cli
n N4tk>n>, will f:x by Choice in i
Rhr wonl kccciMtDo, ii hardly to
ted.thrit Mfa unqita^ificd tofupport
tfict.or *ho haTf. tiy longCuftom,
» for pii(ti:uljir ^Jc!hoos of Lifr, will
ble Clicuniltancei, without endeavouf-
^oditioot by a Change ot their Hubt-
Kof I Sailor, acquainted ^titb nil
tl, U of another kind. Such, Sir.
gr, Arifing riiher from Wantoorcii or
ird to be lecainrd by the kindpit Trrat-
II ftcwird.. ind will therefore tnr»er
bnl Oiipofitioiu, only to continue in a
Pl^ Sir, very evidcn; that tbis new^
tg Sailor* will be lu ht fioia incrcifi
drira them out ol the K
( 220 )
A'iroit.Geo.and xt once rutn our Tnic and our Navy i at onccb(|SU
It- '4- andiiiiaroi us.
L/^'^'\~' * Let mjc now fuppofc, Sir, for a Moment, the Bill Wi
pernicious in its Confequences. and confider only the Diff-
culiic i.f executing it. £verySea-fari:ig Msn i>to be I'eized
at P.e-ilure I y the Magillraie ; but what Defintiion is givea
of h St.. f . ting Man ? Or by what ChaniAerillic is tlie Ma-
giliratc !(' riil>irgiji(h him ? [ have nevi-r been ab!c to dilco*
vcr st.y Particularities in the form of a Snman that mark
him oat from the red of the Sprcies. 1'Lcrc U, indeed, \tb
Servility in hts Air, and lefs Effeminacy in his Face, thia
in tiiofe that are commonly to be fcen m Drawipg-Rooms,
in Brbthets, and at Reviews ; but 1 know not chat a Seaman
cii be diflinguifhed from any mher Man of equal Indullry
or Ufc, who has never enervated himiclf by Vice, ror po.
JifhcJ himiclf into CorruptioD. So that this Bill, Sir. if it
flull pah m:o a l.nw, will put it at unce in the Power of the
M^gitlnie to difpofe of V^men at hi^ ritafure, and to tern
ivhom he plcafci a Scjinnn. .
• Another FApedii-nt, Sir, hat been offered en this Octa-
gon not equally tyrannical, but equally inadequate lO it*
Kiici in View, It is propofed to rrllrain the Merchants (ron
g.Miig Wag<s beyunij a certain Rate, on the Suppofi:ion that
ti.' S;i:oi:- 'lavi* no Motive but that of larger Wages, to prc-
fv- t..e Sen ■ ■ of the Merchants to that of the Crown.
• I'hi-. bir, is a MliUke which might erfi'y arife frona
par'i;il hi)d imperfctl Knowledge of triC AfFiir, with wbick
vcrv few Gentkinen h.-ive Opporiunities of being well ac-
qu.iintcd. 'J'hc W'ages, Sir, are the fmatkl) Inducemenu
ui'ich fix the Scjmen in their Choice. The ProfpcA of
ki'ider Treatirent, the Certainty of returning Mome in a
fixid Time, and tl.c Power cf cliufir.g what Voyages they
Vii: undertake, canixt but be acknowledged vrry rcafoHble
Mo ivos of Preference.
' On thi tL'Rtrary. Sir, when they are oncrengagtd in a
Fh.p nf W.ir, they kn'jw neither U'hi:her they are going,
wh.1t f^ingeri they fh^U encounter, what HardOiips ifa^ ''
f^nil I'^ffer, ncr \i hen thty fhiil bedirmfled. i
• litli^et. Sir, I do rot tV.ir.k it poCib'e by any Law la
limi: the V\ agri t.^ be paid liy Merchants, fir.ce they will
chai'gr i^.e 1 trm cf Wiges into th^t of a Frefent, or adoR
til- S:iiIor.( tc a im^ll Share in tr.e Freight, and fo all tbc Pic-
caut'on uccan tike will become inrffeflual.
• In the meantime. Sir, how'uiuch Hiall weembarrafrovr
own Lommcac, ni d iir.pair our natural Strength, the Ppwcr
of our Fiect» p We Cull terrify our !?ailors on the one Hand,
end couciivour to fWre them on the other ; wc fluUJ notonif
( 2ai ) .
9 from US by anheardof Severities, bat take away Anro 14, Ge
xivetbitoD induce them toexpofe theuilelves to 11. 1740-
^r f>r rdTertogibem. V-^''V"\^
ic confider. Sir, with what ESeQ. Methods nearly
iwg thcfe weie praAifed in the Reign of the late
•M. wefiiall&nd that not more than 1500 Seamen
cd, and thofe at the Expcnce of more than 4000I.
te E&Qs bore no Proportion 10 the Means ; oar
re infringed, and our Conftitution violated to no
vhtt ReafoDj Sir, can be aOigned for which it muft
difficalt to fufiply the Fleet now with Sailors than
^r Time ' This War, Sir, was demanded by the
nice, in parfuance of the particular Remonflrances
IcrchvDts. and it is not to be fuppoftrd that the Sai-
■7 other Body of Men. engage io it with a parti-
oflaact.
therefore inclined to believe that theSufpicion of
■ibcra hid in the Country, at a Diflance from the
I raerely cbtmerical t and that if we Ihould pafs
■c Ibould do DOthing more than grant an oppref-
lacpafiitdtiooal Power of Search fur what in reality
c found.
opprcffin this Power may become in the Hands of
or iofolent Magillraie, any Man may difcover
mbers that the Magillrate is made judge, without
f hit own Right to denominate any Man a Sailor,
■• may- break open any Man's Doori at any Time,
nnlgingany other Reafon than his own Sufpicion ;
>.Maii can fecurehit Houfefrom being fearchcd, or,
lib Pcrfon from being feiz'd.
f isideed be allrdged. Sir, that this will be only a tem>
LW. and is to ceafe with the Exigence that made it
: Bollong Experience has inform'd us, that fevere
eu6led more readily than they arercpeal'd; and
Men are too fond of Power to fufier willingly the
>n<^tt.
ir, though thcLawfliouId not be perpetuated, every
of u Infringmentof oarCondicution, makes Way
iflblution ; and the very Celdtion of an oppreflive
Anno 14, Geo
II. 1740-
Opt. Com-
waU.
Sir Robert
Walpole
( 222 )
Captain Cornwall.
Sir,
* I have obferv'd. Sir, that every Man is i]
himfetf ill treated, who is not treated according
Opthion of his Delerts, and will endeavoor to di{
Notion of the Partiality and Tynnny of the Nar
general Clainoars therefore are little to be reg^p
' I have had, from my early Years, a Com
Sea Service, and Ctn alli.'rt, that I never knew
one Inlta'nce of InjulUct, and that wai punilhed wi
rity it defcrved.'
Sir Robert Walpole.
Si a.
■ It if with uncommon Satisfadion that I
Claufe of this B>11 regularly debated, witfaoat
Impatience, or paiTionate Exclamations. [ as
colled from this Condufi, that the Ditpo6tioo ot
tleman is, on this Occaiion, the lame wiih my am
every Expedient here propo&'d will be diligentl
and either be ferjoudy approved, or be calm'y :
* Such Coolnefs and Impartiality, Sir, is cert
red by the Importance of the prelent Qyellion ;
which cannot but influence the Profperity oftht
many Years.
■ It is not neceflary to remind any Gentlemet
portance of our Trade, of the Power of the, Ed
whom we bavedeclar'd War in Defence ot it, o
cclEty of (hewing •ihe World that our Declarat
are not empty Nuifes, or Farces of Refentment.
be proper. Sir, to remark, that this is not the 0
nor the mofl powerful, whofe Attempts we hav
provide againit, and who may oblige us to exei
Power, and praflife every Expedient to increafe
* The War has been hitherto profccuted wii
.Vigour, with all the Attention that its Importai
and with Succcfs not difpro portioned to our P
nor will it ever be fuffered to languith, if the
cefTiry for carrying it on are not denied.
■ Nothing is more evident. Sir, than that the 1
cr of the Njtion conJills in its Fleets, which
the Care of the Government, fo numerous, thai
Power of many Nations cannot equil them. I
Fleets uofurninied with Men ? How will they i
Dominion of the Sea, by lying una£tive in tmr I
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Methods hitherto ufed have been Tufficient to Anp.0r4.Gea
fits, and that our Preparations have therefore Ji. j^^^.
ore th»a anexpfnfive Shew of War, the whole \./Y"Si^
Bcirntly inforni'd ; it is therefore not doHbtful
w Meafures mull be taken; whether any better
(Ud than are offiired in thii Bill, mult be en-
gird. Sir. to the Claufenow under oar Confide*
a be remembred, that little more is propofed by
I the SinAioo of Legality to a Power which bag
ircifed by the Admiralty, without any other Au-
that of long Prefcription, the Power 0/ ilTuing
[mprefs upon emergent Occafioas, by which Sai-
ed into the public Service.
ver, in its prelent State, mull be allow'd to have
B io any dw, and by Confcqueoce, to be unli-
irjr. and eaUly abufed, and upon the whole, to
only by Ni-ceflity : But that Necifliry is fo fre-
I ii often exercilcd, and therefore ought to be
ibe LcgiHiturc ; and by fuch Regulations, we
efaid to remove than introducea Grievance,
ver of fearcliing fur Sailors, however it has been
is for from fetting tbem on a Level with Feloni,
ir Vagabonds ; or indeed from dillinguilhing
ir Di<a(}vantage. from the reft of the Cummu-
h evciy Individual is obliged to fupport the Go-
hit polTefs Eflates, or carry on Trade, transfer
Property to the Public; and thefe ought, by
ifon, to lerye the Public in Perfon, that have no
rantfcr. Every Man isfecured by the Conftitu-
.iijoyment of his Life, hii Liberty, or his For-
erefore every Man ought reciprocally to defend
on to which he is himfelf indebted for Safety
in.
irefore. Sir, unable to difcover in what corfifls
of a Lawby which no new Duties are erjoined,
ig requir*J, which is not already every Man's
ry Man, indeed, who is defirousof evading the
of any of the Duties cf Society, will corlider
jIGonaia HardOiip, by which he ii obliged to
the general Happineft; but his Murmurs will
Ig but bis own Folly and Ingratitude, and will
tne no Regard from the legiilative Power.
I in the Bill before us. Sir, ' Encouragement fufE-
luncien, and an Offer of greater Rewards than
men think confiUcnt with the prefent Sute of
the
t 2^4 )
Anno 14.Cn> ite Naiiotial Revcnoei ( and what rfmiiiin ta t* ifnw %\
II 17^0. rtrpfl [o (hcfc who arc d«t' toill InviUit'
jy*y'>^ all CJffcts rf Advantage? Are ihey tofi( ai ;
rhey are idlr, or to be dillinguUh'd with iDttntgtBoe vtlj'
/Cr wane ofdcfervrng it ?
• TtWmi gcDcutty granted, Sir, thnt fuch DtoHi imhl
proper (3l>jC^i Ici an Impreri. Lee us then fufpo^e '
" eftry Man who » willing to ftrve his Couotrr, hai }«id
ofllic Reward prgpofcd, ird enter 'd a Vofoivtiir.
Ftfcis arc not yet lu£ciently mann'J. tnore Sslion mi
moduc'd. Warranci .ite illued out in the euminoa ft
Tt.e Negligent, die (mprudent. ihe NeccflJtoiw are nl
The V'lgilmt. the Canning, snd (hcfe t : ^
Money lind Shelter Jind cfcape. Can it b<- ' .
tvliafc Circumftaocet, or good Fortune, rnabie fncn :o
thtfmiclvei from the Officer* of the (mpre^s, defcrTe
E^cRiption /rom the public Sen-ice, or jrom thclttrdl
In which their Companions kre ex pled ? Hare tkty<
charged their Debt of (Jratimdc to the Pablic (a tC'
ally by running iway from itt Scrrice. th«t oo Sorch
' lo be msde after them } It lecnu cviiJcnc. ihitt, irit «u
tofcize the onc.ic i> iikcwjJc right lopurluc :he orhrr,
it be right lu purfoe him, it ii Iikn^tle n'^l
from efcaping the Pcrroen. It is then \
Perfani with the PowErortpprehcadii:^ ^ini, and m
hthst Powcrtobelodg'J.but in the Civil Msgillnur '
* Every Mao, Sir, is obliged by compU'lJvc Method* C0I
111* Country, if hcc«n be prcr>l*d upotiby^o ^t^cT.
Man (haltrefufeto pay hii Rate* or hi&T Iti
Goods he ftnX'X by Force, and fold before 1. _ . „^^ 2|
partioilar Mcihbds are propofed for obliging Sen
tribute :o the public Safety, it ii only beciufe tbe'H
ii mote necefFiry upon more prcHtng Occifioni than
otherst uponOccations that do not admit of Dcta)',
ihe Hazirdof the whole Community.
* t mod corjris, §ir, there arc ib* fly lafttDcnlai
the Hnrdfliipi of the leafiiring Part of the Nation srcj
liar, and truly calkmitous. A Siilor, after the
1*01)1 of a long Voyage, when hcii now in the Si|
PvrtJ where he hcpet \i> eijoy thai Quiei which
Irrv'd by fo long a Scries r>f Patigun, to repair 1I
which Vn Health h» (ufler*d,by Change l:'
Diet of tbeShipi, ind (o recover that Stiri
lant Vtgihince f'at worn away. When he a m
of being reeeired by his Family with thofc Cajtffiu,'
iheSoecoun that he brings them natorjjiy product.
figaa ttr it& a whi^e from Danger aiid fiotn Cair,
"Upon
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of cKefrpfeifiDg Vicw), he I'l, on tfic lW(f<n, (eit*d bj
rrii, find fofc'd inro a Repetiiioo of all bis Miferiu,
any lottrvHl of Rerefhment.
aq M<n,wbu iisn tiiiak U'lthout Compiflian oa fuch
u ilih, iMi*i\ hii Zeal for Freedom, hii Regard for
«ry. or hit Gntirode to thok uho cootribace to the
Iih und Power of i^cir Couoirv t letefery Man who
v« limilelf touclicvi u/itti the Pity which tlitr fl<ghieft
Imm), upon luch a DiiAppoincmenr, muU njiurally pro-
fiflccrely todixvoar to obrutc the .VpwtC-y of fuch
«l&«^e Me*riir«5, which m«y at SeaH, in part, br prcreitied,
iag (o A1i|riilrtt<!i the Power cfhuncuig out of their
thole whu ocgie<n the Burincb of tticir CaUingi,
r at un^'« in Ltuntiiand Waot
arrgirai Nmnbfrs who rttirc not from We&rineli
. but an unieifonable Prepotteinoa ajfiinil the pub*
i and furcly nuthing Js mors urreuroQ^ble, thxri
DHpolitioni Ihooli) be gratified, aod chat Inclodr/
cspofie any Man to Feniliiet.
the whole, Sir. t am not able to discover, that any
M^Ked from «i^ Imprefti merely bccanfehe
- <c, or bccuul'c Id'encftor DifiOCiiaition
1. k^ piotnpt* htm ttraUicond.
ilcfcri'e Indulgence, in Oppofuion to tb< Dc-
r rubtk, U'cyare nihcr thotc who have alrta,-
(onc Deejrec ilitcliArg'd tbcir Duty to ii. b^ conirj-
I -■ : which it (he Con'rqueRCe ofa
Commerce, and without which
canr.L-: L"-
It I* pu: wr fan'* Regret, that I am obliged to
■ ''ufliorj which the War
cqiKii It H^i oddenalcen j
Hi tltci^ic tndt itic CouiiuiU ct iiic Mertrhftnt^ h^i klfori*
iFtoof rhst lome Law of ihii Tcndenrjr jt ablohitely ncccf*
The MerchlMS, Sir, who haw fo loudly complained
the Decline .if Iri.Jc, the Intetruption of Navigatioa,
Infolencc. kspjcit/and Croeky of the Spaotardij
isli who h >cil the Natioo wi;h Keprelirntaboni of
'■ '1 'ooragcmcott, and Mitenn. and laineet-
ci . Manner, ih:tt tiicy were (he oaly Body
t;j<: 1 r^ iUtare had no Rrgard, who were abia-
m tKr Lafi« of other Naiioni, were platuJcred
and tiegie£led at Home : the MetchAoti, at'ier
at length by their (nponunmn cng-igeLl the Sdio
'■r, r*t whxh ihry hare thcmiclvo cerably net tk«
VIL O g Icut
M
Anno 1 4, Geo.
/'. 174a
( ii6 )
Anno 1 4, Geo loft FretCD&oni to qaeftioa cither the Jaftice or K
II. 1740. DOW, when, by the natural Confcqucnces of a oan
^/V*^.^ neat, Sailori become left nomerous, and Shipi nc
cult to be equipp'd, contrad in private with foch &
thejr ire inclinM to employ, and conceal them io
/ hired for that Purpofe, till the Freight is ready, or 1
ger of an Imprefs it palt, and thus fccure their owi
ABktn at the Hazard of the Public, and hinder th
tions of a War, which they and they ooly follicked.
* The Danger of having other Enemies than the S
Enemies more afiive, more powerful, and more a
has already been mention'd ; a Danger fonear, and
dable, that he will not be thought very folicitoa
Country, whom the bare Mention of it does not alar
Danger we are therefore to obviate by vigorous Pre]
and unanimous Refolutions, nor do I doubt bat
Enemies, if they find us united, wilt repent ofatta
• Sir, the moll efficacious Method of manniog o
which Law or Cuflom has yet put into oar Hands,
fufpcading our Commerce by an Embargo, and yet I
Nation knows how much and by what Meant it
eludedj nofooner was it known 'that an Embargo
than the Sailors flew away into the Country, or h
felvrs in Corners of this great City, as from the m*
dable* Danger ; and no fooner did the Embargo ce
theJBanks of [he Rivers were again crowded witi
and all the trading VefTets were immediately fupplii
■ As I cannot doubt, Sir, that every Gentleman
ly zealous for the Succefs of the War, and for the J
of his Country ; and as the Infufficiency of the pn
thods of providing for them is apparent, I hope tl
the Regulations propofed by this Bill , to which I f<
portant Obje£lions, or Tome other of equal Ufe, wi
blifbed by a general Concurrence/
Lord Baltimore.
Sir.
[I LArl ' Though no Gentleman in this Hcufe can
fl Baltimore, dently with the Succefs of the Britifh Arms, or i
willingly concur in any Measures that may prooH
I cannot agree to the Claufe now under our ConI
UI difapprove it both from moral and political Motiv
approve it as neither juft nor prudent.
' The InjuRice of fo flagrant an Invafton'of tl
of particular .Men has bctrn already exporcd i nor ii
Opinion, lefs eafy to dtfcovet the Imprudence of c
'I
C 227 )
illoarSappties at once, and fweeping away all our Ssiiors, to Anim i4,Geo
bpplfa ungle Exigency. II. 1740.
' Itbas olKn been remarked, Sir, in Favour of a Stand- \^''Sr'\^
ing-Anny, that it is requi&teto have a Number of regular
Fmii who, though too weak to oppofean Invafton, mighc
beiUcto eftablifh Difcipline in a larger Body. An Obfer-
niiaa which miy, with much greater Jullnefs, be applied co
ikSeamentWhofe Art is much more difficult to be attained,
nd who arc equally neccflary in War and Peace.
' IF our Stock of Sejmen, Sir, be dellroy'd, if there is not
Uiioar trading Veflclt a fuflicient Number of experienc'd
Aflili to initiate Novices, and propagate the ProfeflioD, not
nly our Ships of War muft lie ufelels, but our Commerce
ilk to nothing.
' Nor have I reafon to believe the Naval Power of France
feiRmidable, as that we ought to be terrify'd, by the Appre-
hafansofit, into any extraordinary Methods of I'rocedure.
luiaforQieid that they have now very few Ships of Force
U ii their Eiarbours ; and that they have exerted their
VUc Strength in the American Fleet.
' lun not, therefore, Sir, for providing aga'nft prefent
I lltoien, without Regard to our future Security ; and think
> lOlkug more worthy of the Confidcrntion of this Aflembly,
^ tttt the Means of encouraging and increafing our Seamen.
, rtichwill not be cfF.aed by the fiill before us.
' Land Forces may be hired upon Emergencies ; bat Sai-
' Inareour own peculiar Strength, and the Growth of our own
hill we are therefore above -ill other Regards to attend, if I
Hf ife the Term, to the Prelervation of the Species/
Ur.Viner.
Si a.
' A> there can be no llronger ObjcAion to any Law than Mr- Viner.
^bibiguiiy, or indeterminate Latitude of Meaning, I think
Iteceflkry to propofe, that (ome Word of known and li-
Shed Import, be fublUtuted in the Place of Sea-faring Men ;
Ii EaprclTion which, if I was allced the Meaning of it, I
Ank) find it difficult to explain.
■^ ' AreSea-firing-Menthofeonly who navigate in theSea p
-The Term is then fuperSuous, for all fuch are evidently coin-
|ratd in the Word Sesmen. Are they Birgemen or Water-
Ma who ply on Rivers, and tranfport Provilion or Commo-
fitili from on* Inland Town to snother } In that Senfe no
mAf will affirm that it is a proper Woiti ; and Improprieties
i the Expreffioa of Laws produce* Uncertainty in the
CsKOiion of ihcm/
G £ 2 Ciptaia
C a«» >
■*«°i74i?** Ckptkla Cornwall.
e»pt. Com- ' TheTpFfn Sea^faring Men, of whirh tn EitplioilJ
WfU. ^fired, is intentjfd lo ificlude aK thofe uha tire by cidl|
isg Good«orPan«Dgersupon the Water, wh^thertbtSBi
Inlind Rivers: Nor can we rertraJn it to a mito*SbI
vitboutexcmpiing from the public Service great finatt
wbofe iraiiner uf Life has qu^ilified them ior it, isjii
whom tlirir Country may with equaf Jmlite fxpeSAfill
as from ihofrwhaare engaged ififoreicQ Trajffic'
Mr. Viner.
Si..
_. . • I atii fsr ffomcaticurring with th* HoOounb'e Call
*ir. ylnff. ^^^ ini,J5 Opiriion, thlt the Inland VVaiefirurn arc, Im*
Profeffion.in any degree qualified for Sea..SerVK:e, Or oif
perly be called Sea- jaring' Men.
• AU|Q|ja]i6caftonE for theServicr muft corfift ehk
fpne fiiowfeijge of the Aru of Navi^tion. orirrfow'
miltarity with the D3n^er« of ihe Sea. W«h rtgirt
at))' previous Knowledge of naval Bufinefs^ it is well ka
that they have no Advantage over any rotnrriDn lAtxV
for the cnnnner o^ Tiaviga:ing a 6hip and a Barvc Un
the moil part nottaJitg in common.
• 'Nor are thefe Watf rmen. Sir, more abfe lo Rtvi fc*
the Terrors of the Scorm, or the NoiiV of a Biitic. I
thofe who fkiiloiv any other Occupatiofi. Many of ihrntfl
faw the SeSj nor ha<te jefs Dread of it$ D^neer Llu>
oth« Inhsbirams ef the Inland Countries. They are*
fore neither Se^-lanng-Mfo, uorpCcuEiari;^ capable cf 1l
made Seamen.
•_ Butthe Hardftipnpon particular Mea isnottheftifl
Objedion to this Claufc, which, by obElru^ing oar fii
Navigation, may make our Rivers ufelefs, and fet the k
Trade of the Natron at a flknd. For whowi[l brire -ii
Son a Waterjnan, who knows him expofed by that Fr
pon to be imprclTcd for a Seaman ?
• It Items therefore neccflary. Sir, either to OSUE
Term Sea [aring-Men, or to cxpfajn it in fuch a taano^
{niand Wa:eimen may oqc be included,'
iMrd Gage.
Sir,
• So much has been urged againfl t^*
S*^ thodt propped in chii ClaL[c. aud lb lii
ycvr of tbcm, that it ma/ feem fa^T^voi,
( 229 )
^ 10 njeavoiir. by a multiplicity of Arguments, to prove Anno 14, Geo.
vhit common Reafon mult immediatdy difcover. But I'- ^7^°-
theteii ooe Conrequence of this CUufe which haa not yet Vm/'VN^
heeoobferved, and which is yet too important not to be ob*
vitedby a particular Provifo.
' II ii well known, Sir, that many of tbfife to whom this
Ad will extend, are Freeholders and Voters for eleding the
Kgnlnitatives of the Nation ; and it is therefore apparent,
tiuEleAions may be influenced by an ilUltmed or partial
EntutioB of it. How ealy will it be when an Election ap-
pnulws to rsife a falle Alarm, to propofe fome fecrec Ex-
pedniai, or threaten us with an Invafian from feme unknown
QwBt^.and to feize on all the Sea-faring Voters whofe Af-
fcdioai are fufpe£led, and confine them at Spithcad till the
CoateS is over.
' I cinnoi therefore, Sir, but think it necelRry, that ii
iVnCbule be fuflered to pafs, lome P^rt of its hatefut Con-
^aencci fliould be prevented by an Exception in favour of
fmlkiMcn and Voters, which furely is no lefs thai) what
■HryMia owes to his own Security, to the Welfjreof hU
Cnmiy, and 10 thofe by whom he Aas been honoured with
Ae C^ of their tiberties.*
Mr. Pelham.
SlE.
' Ido not rife ia Oppofition to tbe Propofal made by that jy^, peihim.
ll>|kl Honourable Member, nor do I think this the proper
Ttte cither foroppofing or approving it. Method is of the
lii{brl Importance in Enquiries like thefe; and if the Or-
iftilht [X'batebe inrerrupted by foreign Queflions or inci-
'wilObjeAions, no Man will beabletoconfider the Cfnufes
klbre as with the A:tention neccfTary to his own Sici.'ifac-
tM, or to the ConviAion of others ; the Mind will be difli-
Cttd by a Multiplicity of View&, and nothing can follow
thrp'cxiiy and Confufion.
, ' The great End. Sir, for which we are now afTembled, K
ftilrike out Methods of manaingthe Fleet with Expedition
■■I Certainty. It is therefore proper in the ftrft Place to
*|Ke opoo fome general Meafures, to each of which there
>iy BDdoubtedly be particular Obje£lions raifed, that may
k ifierwardi removed by Exceptions or Provisions ; but
iWe Pioviftons fliojld, for the fake of Order, be ioferted in
fvtknlar Claufei.tobefeparately confidered.
■ Of this kind is the Exception now ofiered, to which I
km DO Objeflion but its prefent Impropriety, and the In-
Unpdvk of the Pcbatc which it may now occafion ; for I
fee
f 23* )
Anno u, Ceo. fee at prcfent no Reafon againfl admitting it ii i
V>irX^ • Whtn it ii confidered how mncb theSocBfitfll
War may deptnd upon the Succelc of our pidcit
takings, I hope my Sollicitode for Regnhrigr aj^l
tion wiU be eafily excufed.*
Sir John Hind Cotton.
S I R,
Sir John * I am not able to direover mny immtDtnt Dnp
Uiiui Cotton, the Nation in Aifpending our Attentioo to the CUnfeU
us for a few Moments ; nor indeed do we ceafe toaori
it, while we are endeavouring t6 mollify it, ind adii|ti
our Conftitution.
* The Exception propofed it, in the Opinion of del
Dourable Gentleman, fo rrafonable, that lie dedamU
ready to approve it in another Place; and to ne,*!
fecms more proper of its making Part of this Bill tkal
As a Connexion between the CUufe and ExccptioiOT
necellary and immediati;, t cannot fee why it flKMUn
poned, unlefs it is hoped that itmiy be An^ottea.* j
Mr. Pultcncy,
Sir,
Mr Pulteney. ' "^^^ '^'* Exception ftioald be fbrgotteo tkniil
' Danger ; fjr how long foever it be delayed, J will ■■
gree to tlie A^ till I fee itinrened. If we fufir tklll
of the Freeholders to be infringed, what can «c cntf
to be charged with betraying our TruA, and pnigV
Servitude and Opprellion thole who deputed ut to tkilJf
bly, as the Guardians of their Privitc^s, and tbc
of their Birthright ; a Charge too juflly to be
tcoiittrocious to be borne!
' Sir, the Right of a Freeholder is inrtrnrmlint
other Circumlliir.ce, an^.'! is neither made mon or
Wealth or Povtriy : I'Ke Ellate, however fmaU, wbtf
a Right cf voti'-.g, oiigl.t to exempt the Owner fnm*
ReRraint that ir..iy hinrjcr tlie Exertion of hit
Right on which our Coiiliimtion is founded, and
not t e uken away without iubverting our wi^ote
ment,
• To overlook the Diflinflions which the (iindami^
of our Country hr.ve made in r<.'fpeA co dilKfcm OH
Men, and to regard only the Accidents of AAiMBoaa
ceflity, is furely urjuLt in itielf, and'anworthy of thibl
bly; an AfTembly, Sir, inllitiited principally to proM
Weak .igainft the Stro;;^, and deputed to repreicai di
(«5i )
re State, who are cot connderable enough to appear Anno 14, Gee.
id claim a Voice 10 the Legiflature, H- inp-
ntpofe an honell, a laborious, and an iifeful Man, 1/'\^'^J
ml by the Hands of an iofolent Officer, and drag-
the Enjoyment of his Right, only becaufe he will
«his Confcience, and add his Voice to thofe ofSy-
, Dependants and Proftitutes, the Slaves of Powe,
Iges of a Court, and the Hirelings of a Fafiion, I'a
elt degree of InjuUice and Cruelty. Let us rather,
;p away with an Imrrcfs, the Drones of large For-
te Tyrants of Villages, and the OppreAars of the
t ui oblige thofe tu lerve their Country by Force,
trtuncs have had no other EfFcd than to make them
and worth'efs ; but let fuch who by contributing to
ce, m^ikc every Dav Tome Addition to the public
be left in the full Enjuyment of the Rights which
rve ; Let tliote by wholu Labour the Expences of the
farnilh*d, be excufcd fioni contributing to it by per-
rvice.
; is necciTiry, Sir, to have our Laws e(labli(h'd by
Tfentnt JVC'S of the People, it' is necefTary that thofe
itattves lh9u!d be freely ele^cd ; and therefore
iw th.".! fjbdrufts the Liberty of Voters, is contrary to
imencul Liws of our Conflitution ; and whac Mu!-
layby this Law be either hindred from giving their
r be terrified into fuch a Choice as by no means cor-
with their Judgnicnci or Inclination's, it is eafy to
n indeed cf Opinion, Sir, that this Clnu'ecinnot be
to our CoiiJtitution, nor mociif.cd by cny F.vpedient
aw, which wtll not by infupporcuble Hardfhips upon
an, and make Way for abfolutc Power But, as it is
' that a conliant Supply of Seamen fhuuld be provided,
ic not improper to obl'crvc, that there \i one Expe-
L remaininc;. by which, clioMt will not much afflll ui
refcnt Exigence, the Tlects of ;hii Nation may here-
conltantiy iupported.
have at pref^'nt great Numbers of Chanty-Schoola
d in this Nation, where the Children of the Poor
m Education difproportion'd to their Birth. This
iDo other Confcquences than to make them unfit for
Ltions by pliciog them, in their own Opinion, above
Igery cf d.iiijr Libour. a Notion which is too ntuch
i as Idfenefi co-operating with Vanity, can hardly
■in the Afcendant, and which fometimet prompts
(uppon themfiflvcs by Pra£licci not only ufelefs but
pernicioat
( 23* )
Anno 14, Geo. pernicious to Society. This Evil, Siri cannot be hetttn
II 1740- atcd than by allattiag a rcafonable Proportion out ol
K^t'\^ School to the Service of the Sea, in which by emerin|
they cannot fail to become Proficients, and where the
taioments, which at prcfenttoo frequently produce L
and DiQionefty, might enable ttacni toexcel. and entict
CO Promotion.*
Mr. Winniogton.
S,»,
Mr. Winning* < NoiwirhfUnding the Confidence with which fob'
ton. tiemen have propofm this Ammendmentt and the ]
with which others have confented to it, I declare t
Hefiution, that I oppofe it now, and intend to op
whenever it flull be offered, becaufe it will defeat
other Provilioot which ihall be made in the Bill.
* 1 will venture to fay. Sir, that if every Man wl
by whatever Tenure, the Right of voting Qiall be ex>
from the Neceffity of contributing to the public Sa
his perfonal Service, every Mao qualified for the S>
by fome Means acquire a Vote.
' Sir, a very fmall Part of thofewho give their ^
this Nation, enjoy that Right as the Appendage of 1
koId_; to live in fome Towns, and to be twrn only ta
gives the ooalienable Privilege of voting. Any Get
to fecurehisown Interefi^orobllrud the public Scrvio
by dividing a fmall Piece of barren Ground among 1
dred Sailors, exalt them mil to Freeholden, and ezemj
horn the Influence of this Law.
* However. Sir, I am not left a Friend to the Freel
than tbofc who propofe the Exception in their Fiv(
in my Opinion the great Interelt of the Freeholden
Frefervation of their Freeholds, which can only be
bya vigorous Exertion of the Power of the Nation
War which is now declared a^inlt the Spaoianti.*
Lord Barrington.
St.,
Lord Barring. * ^Y the Obfemtions which T have Opportunirie
ton. king at the Place which I have the Honour torepn
am convinced of the Influence that this Law will ha>
all the Boroughs along the Coalts. There mofl of
lers are, in one Senfe or other, Sea-faring Men, being
all of them Owners of Vcflels, and in fome Degree sa
with Navigation t they may therefore be horned awa
Choice of an officious or opprefiive Magidnte, Vho 1
Partiality and InjuQice, obtain a Majority, contnry n
( ^33 )
Bcnl ladinition of the Pco^c, and determine the Ejefiion Anno 14, Ceg-
hjUt own Authorii/, ^'- ■'7-t^-
Sir William Yoogc. • V^ v"S*i
' Ifcrcry Freeholder and Voter is to be exempted from Sir WillUm
Ae InSuence ol'tlie La--v, tlie fJilI thai we aic, with fo much V<^nSC-
Aidor, endeavouring toJrj^upand rectify, and of UrhJch
tivNeceHuy is 10 generally acl:iiuw!<fdged, will be no other
dan an empty Souiid, «n.l ii DdicTmindtion withuac an Ob-
^t tor while we are empowering the Gnvernnicnt co call
SancB into the Service, we are exempting alinuit iiM that
utMeto fcrve fium the Ucnominaiioii ot Sizaitn : Whut
if tkH bar to ditiiute wiiboac a Subjcd I to railc With one
ibad ud demolilh with the other ?
■ tatbe Wdtern Parti of the Nation, Sir, where I refide,
■Mj who vote 31 EleAioni chilli iherr Pnvilrge by no other
Tilcihaii rhat ol boiling a Poi; a Title which he who has it
Ml, Bay eafily obt:)in. when it will either graiify his Lazi*
Mborhii CuwArdice, and which, liio' not occafionaliy ob-
mkmi, fecms not tufhcient to let any Man out ot the Reach of
mjat ind neceHiry Law.
' Itii therefore. Sir, undoubtedly re^uillte that the Terms
4f the E»eption Ihuuld be explicite and dcrmittve, and that
.fl^thofc fliiiuld heexempted who have fuch Pollefliuns or
l^diicitiont ai this AITeoibly Ihall think a jjli Title to Ex-
^ifbOt. For on the Wellern Coalt, from whence great
dpplia may be expected, nliiiott every bailor has a Vote,
•IVkich nothing i* there reijuireJ, but to iurea Lodging antl
WaPoi; after whicli, ifrhi-. Exception be admitted in all
illdlitude, he may lit at Eile aniid.t the Dillrefles of his
Autry, ridicule the Liw wli.ch he i.as ciu^cd, aud let the
■l^iitnie at open Di.ii^iiLe,*
Sir Robe rcWal pole.
1^ S I «.
• Ai I think. Sir. Tone F.xcer.:i'nn mav l-e 'y.^ snd prrppr, ^jr R"beit
ll fiippotc every OentLintan ui!: c(>rc':ruith me in rncft- •^^'i-*'*
of fuel) Extent Ki iitill kT.'c no Objiii lor tiic Opera-
of the Law.
Ft is in my Opinion ^.TCf^T to Tf^rr-in tIt? Kxcmption to
Frechc'dcrs wro arc j olitli of h;;.ii -in ii!l:i'c, a-J give*
[Vote for the Rcpreftntativeof the diunty, by which tnofe
Priviltge aritei from their l*rcp'*rry. iv,:i tie (ccurcd,
iC frems rcaConable th.it thrtfe who i> tvf. I'rivilfpe!! with-
Aorenv. flioutd pmchate them by tixir Service^.'
BS, VII. II h Mf.
Anno 1 4, Geo.
Mr. Brown.
Mr. Ryder.
( 234 )
Mr. Brown.
Sir,
* The Exception pr^poiedwiU not only defeat tlieEi
the Bill by leaving it few ObjeAs, but will obdrna the Ei
tion of it on proper Occafions, ud iovolve the Magiftr
Difficulties which will either intimidate bim in the £u
of his Authority, or if be perfilh in difcharging his
with Firmnefa and Spirit, will perhaps oblige him fomc
to repent of his Fidelity.
< It is the neceflary ConfcqiKoce, Sir, of a Sesman*)
ftffion, that he is often at a great Diilance from the Ph
hii legal Settlement, or patrimonial PolIcffioDS ; and hi
therefore aflcrt Af hii own Circamftances what it m<A <
nient u-ithout Danger of Detedion. Dillance it a So
that prompts many Men to Falihood by which only Vn
gratified, and few Men will tell Truth in OppofitioB to
Intereft, when they may lie without Appreben£oa of
conviAcd.
< When therefore a Magiflrate receives DIreQioo) t
preft all the Seamen within his Dillrid. how few will h
who will not declare themfetves Freeholders is fomed
Country, or Freemen of forae oblcure Borough. It ii
Purpofe. Sir, that the Magitlraie difbclieves what we c
confute 1 and if In one inltance in a Hundred, he iboi
tniftaken, and, a6ling in Confequeoce of his £rrar» fy
Freeman into the Service, what Reparation may aoti
manded ?
' I therefore propofe it to the G)n{ideration of the <
mittee,| whether any Men ought to claim F^emptioi
this Law by a Title, that may fo readily be proCur'd,
fefely ufurped."
Mr. Attorney General Ryder.
S t R.
< The Pr.i^ice of imprcQing, which has been decli
againll with luch vehement Kxaggeiations, is not only h
ed on immemorial Cullom, which makes it Part of tiie
mon L:iw, but is likewife cHablifhM by our Statutes;
reineni'x:- :o havtr found it in the Statutes of Queen ]
aD>! thr-.cltjic cannot allow that it cujjiu to be treated l
gal, ;ird aiKi-conlittution.-iI.
* That it is not inconfillcnt with our Confiitution. ■
proved from the Pr.:£tice ol crefling the Royal Stai
upon grL'at Emerge ncie:^, to which every Man was ol
immediately to repair : 'i'his Pri£tice is as old u (hit Ca
( ^S5 )
a, tad, u it may be revived at PJeafure, nay be properly Anno 14, Geo.
cuioiied aa cquivakat to an Imprcl's.' il.1740-
Ur. Viner. V.^On«^
Sia.
■ Thii Word, which the learned Member has, by his n,. vki r.
Mdcrfiil Diligence, difcover'd in the Statute5, may perhaps
there, but in a SigoHication far diflerenc trom that which
beirs at prdeot. The word is, without Doubt, originally
each. Pa//, and imply'd what is now exprcfled by the Term
!ady ; aad to imprefs any Man was in thofe Days only
make him ready, or engage him to hold himfelf in Kea-
atb, which was brought about not by CompulhoD, Purluit,
d Viokoce. but by the Allurements of a pecuniiry Re-
ud, or bf the Obtig-ition of fome antient'i enure.*
ThU Debate ended in a Report, That they had made Tome
nptb, and dclired leave to lit again.
The (th. Read a firll time, a Gill for continuing an A&
ihof King George II. to explain a former At\ 1 ith of
JH George I. for the better regulating the ManufaAure
Fuoch in the Weft Riding of Yurkftiire, and for making
hefiud AAs morecfr<.-£luaI.
Itaoeived a Petition of divers Merchants, Exporters of Petition rtlaf
liVrooUen and Briiifh Manufaoriei and Filhcriesi as ingtoSci-
hvifc Ownris and M.iflcrs of Ships concerned in the '"'-'"'" ^"^^
Nnjfuioa of thcfe Ships to foreign Parts; alfo thofe
MObTDed in the Cual and Coalting- Trade, in behalf of
AarfdTM and others, complaining of the unreafonable
to|ndemanded, and paid to Marinen in the Mcichant'a
k*ice of late, which if more than double of what is
pul by any foreign Nation in Europe, (bcfidcs Crimpage,
1 a Month's Pay advanced to Cich Mariner) 10 t<ic Dif-
■geneat of the Trade of thei'e Kingdoms : And repre-
ng CO the Houfe, thnt this growing Evi!, if not pre-
by a Law. will hinder the Manncrf irom ever en-
themfclves on board the Ships o( Wiir, while the
sponion of Wages paid to Mariners in the King's
:, and that of [he Merchant is lo grent; the Wages
iMariners in the King's Service being about 23!!. and
other Adrantages about 2Si. per Muntii, wiien the
in the Merchant's Service are paid, and demand
,and 3I. per Month: And further reprcfenting, that as
[Pecitioners apprehend the prefcnt Pr.-<£li(.'ec:irried on in
"^ng Mariners from on bosrd the tlomcWdn'-boURd
bantShips, and Irom the Shore, does not anl'wer the
propofcd ; and that a great many Perfjos make it their
II h 2 fiuTiuefa
( 23« )
Anno li, Geo Bufineft tofedace and encournge Mariners to l
II. 1740- the Intent of an Aft ift of King George II.
VX»*N^ Jiegula/ign ef Mariners in the Merchant's StrK
thcr,' complaining of vexatious Suits carried
Maflers and Owners of Ships, by the Advice
nen in the High Court of Adnitralty : And
forth, that the Aft uf Navigation obliges t
carry three Fourths Englifli Mariners, whict
in force when the prefent War is over; but
often in foreign Ports enter, or are entered on
jelly's Ships, it Is impoflible to comply with th
the Merchant-Ships are liable to becotnr a i
the veiy Man of War who has tnl<en their M
And therefore pr.iying the Houfc 10 pcTin
heard by themfelvet or Counlel upon the faic
to grant thnt fuch Provifion may br made in i
lating the Price of Mariner's Wages in t
Service, and to prrvent fuch growing Abuli
thofe under the Sanftion of the High Court oi
order efirftual'y to man his Majelly's ShipM
jmprelllng, pnd to encourage the 'I'mdc ant
thel'e Kingdoms a> to the Houfe Ihall fecm
to lie on the Table.
VoresrrVine }" a grand Committee, took into Confide
to the Evpor< rtl Petitions concerning the Dec^y of the *
lation ot' faflory, Jfitc. and reported the Refolutions ■
Woc-l. feme, viz. Rrfolved, That the F.xportarion
Grent-Gritain and Ireland to I'oicign Parts,
drcia] tr> the Wcollcn-Mannf^fturcs of thi» J
Refolved, That the I^ns row in bring a
to prevent the Fxportaiion of Wool (rom G
Jrcland to foreign Parts.
ReioVed. That a public Regsif r of Wrt- 1 ;
Britain ard Jreland, is the miTit tfttctiial h
venting the Fxportarion tiiryeof to foreign
was agreed to bv the Hcuff-: After whrct
ioivco toadurels his Majeiiy. That he woi
direct the CcmniilTioners for 'i'r?.cie and Plai
the Rccef> of Parliament, to prepare a Scht
giiienrg the Wool of Great Brj^.^in and Ir
bof-re Ihi? Houfe the nt.xt Seli-.on of Pirlian
Ordered, That a Bill b*- bn itght in for tl
of ti-.e Manufjfture of Wuolirn iJroad CIo
ycnt lobules in the ni:>king of the lame.
Farther Pro- The 6th. In a grand Cominit;ee, made a
thr's^amtn^a *^ '*"* **'" '"'' *" Encourajr^meiit of Seai
kUl. * better and fpecdicr msoning ni^ MajeityS f
( 237 )
• ^tl. Tn s gnnd Committee, oo the Bill for the En- Anno 14, Gen
ewTkcntot Seamen, a Claufe was read, by which every 'iJ'*"
.bio. headboTOUgh.Tything-man, or other Pcrl'on. was '*-^'r"N-./
Co b«: examined, upon Oath by the Jultices of the
wkio were empowered to lay a Fine upon 1 hem for any
£%. Offence, or Connivance; after which Sir John Bar-
Tpoke 10 the following £fit:£l :
5 ..«,
l» is the peculiar Happinefs of the Britifli Nation, that Sir John
1.*^ can be made without the Confent of their Reprc- B*""*"*-
ci^vca ; and 1 hope no fuch Infatuation can ever hM upOD
;tf * as may influence them to chufe a Rcprefeniative ca-
lk^ of concurring in AbHirditiei like thi^.
* Th« Folly, the Iniquity, the Stupidity of this Claufe,
9> Only be conceived by hearing it repeated ; it is too Aa-
fi*k to be extenuated, and too grofs to admit Exaggera-
Ol>^i to oblige a Man to make Oath againA himfelt. to
W'ft hinfelf by his own Voice to Penalties and Hard-
Cvfi,bu once croel and ridiculousj a wild Complication of
T>nuy and Folly.
' To call upon any Man to accufe himfelf, it only to call
■PM kin 10 commit Perjury, and has therefore been alwaya
[ Mnated irrational and wicked ; in thoTe Countries where
~-^> pnfiifed, the Confeflion is extorted by the Rack, which
■l>d if fo neccflary on fuch Occafions, that 1 Ihould not
*Mdir to hear the Promoters of this Claufe openly declar-
^fbrthe Expediency.of Tortures.
* Nothing is more evident than that this Bill, however
F| Aillportance of theOccafion may bemagnificd.wai drawn
^■^•itbout RefleAion, and that the Cliiulea Weie never un-
-^bfcod fay thoie that oflered them ; Errors like thefe muft
'^fifeoaly from Precipiution and NegIrA, for thry are too
ptb 10 be committed either by Ignorance or Defign.
■ Toexpofe fuch Abfurdities is indeed eafy, but not plea-
W; for what End is anfwercd by pointing at Folly, ur
W 11 the public Service advanced by {hewing that the Mc-
tindi propofed are totally to be reje^ed i Where a Propofi-
ii^^^of a mixed kind, and only erroneous in Part, it is an
fiAl wid no difagreeable Tafk to feparate Truth from Error,
i^A6n tangle from ill Confequences. luch Meafnres as may
p voHiied with Advantage to the Public; but mere Siupi-
hvcui only produce CompaOion, aad ailbrd no Opportuni-
mtof Eaquity or Difpate,*
Sir
11.1740
Adninl
i/Lt. Citbon.
SirChftrlcf Wspr.
S)». . - .
< Thii ClM.it(e luwevtr con tern piuouily trtiUcJ,a
already paJTed toto t Law by a Parltamcvu which braj
courceij and dreaded by the £r>ca.ieJl Put cf thcQ
and was drawn up by a Minillr/ thatllKvc giroilid
lerityno ReaCon to treat them with Dcri^Ofl aidGiB
t Intbe ReigQ cf Queen Aaoe. chii McctkadaH^
WAS approved and edabjifhed, and wc otjiy judge dfi
pricty of the Meaiuies followed In chat Wu, b]r^^■
wbich cliey procured . ^
• Ihofe tbcrrfure bywhoin Cdit BiU wai diiau
cammittul tto new Attfurditici. tuit have propofrd n
Wbicb wBi ngt ea«£lcii by the vifcQ oJ our Pfcdi^
ouof tlivmoaiUi|ftriottt?tno(Up|'otuHiilor)r.' 1
Mr^ Gibbon, * -J
• I am far from thinking a Fropontion fufficicnq
dcd by 2Q Altfir[iun iIlic it wu admiiEcd. by not Pid
Iqi^ Cho' 1 Jjitve BO fnclinaCton to vilify tbcir Mcjiioil
((ijthuu.t Scruple, a^m that they had no PretcjiiioBi!
libility, and tiyu there are in many of our ScatJt
•fAlch Jgrorance, CrtdnUiy. Weakne^^ and
notbect>niider'd without AilonilhincBr.
' In Qu«!lLons of an abl^rulc and complicated Kj
certain, i^ir, lh;ic Experience I114 taught us what
have been difcovcred, previoufly, by the \Vjfdi-,ra
ccliois i And vi-i have found by theif ConfetjueiK
proprifiy q1 mr.ny Fra^ices which they approved, j
we fhoi^^d hove (qi.'ally applauded in the fame Cii
• £ut to ivtLui'urpol'eii Obfcivation, if we mi
Eyes Bg;iir.li it, and ap^tii for tvtt ta che Wifd
Ancci^DTif if we muft fLU imo Errcr, ]iL«rct)>
were miiLkfn, and rufli upon KoLki outoSVn
ihtjic who were wreck'd againA ibcm ?
• in QueitLors cafily to be exaroiii'd, and DeU
which comprized no perplexing Contrarieties of J
Mulciplicicy olCircumdances, cltey Were equaU^J
Qurfclves 10 be fupinc and negiigcRt, to fink Ml
or be furpi-iard by Haflt. 1 hat the Claufe now
was ena^ed by tlicm^ mull be alcribcd mereiy to tl
the Seilitm in which it wa^ brought berore tbem-i
in wJiichfo ma.ny Enqulriei of the highell Impot
lo be made^and (q great aDiverficy of Viewa (o|
C 239 )
*« Tio Wonder that fomc Abfurdities fliDuld efcape Anno 14, Geo
t XDctrAion. 11. 17^0
t,he Fourth of the Reign ofthsQBCCn, this Bill was V^''V"\^
^5' * n, as now, at the latter End o( a StlTinn, when tht
'^'i** of [he HouJc was fatigued and diltr?:fled, and it
'Vrried through both HouJts, and ratified by her Ma-
*Uh very little CoLfiderution.
■"t then, as tliis t:ircum!tfince may be jiiftly termed an
"^tttion of iheir Erior. it ought 10 be a Lcfibn of Cau-
* ^ui, that we may no: bc^ in the like manner, betrayed
MAefame Weakntu.'
Mr. Pelham.
■ Tie ConduS of our Predeccffars feems not to fland ia j^^ Pelhanu
■•^ofiny Excuie : for it might be eafy to vindicate it by
^■funeats, but chat it is more proper to approve it by Imi-
Kn.
' Whenever the 6iU was pa/Ted, or how hnfiily foever the
**■« enatied, i: was, I bcjieve, rather the Kfu-tS of Ne-
cStf than of In.idv(;rtcncy ; of the fame NcccfTity which
nrpteilCT, and which ii very ill conlulteu by tedious De-
lia.
_' They were then involved in a VVar, and were not fo
Bnflcd by private Ir.tfreib as net to uni;e in the moft vi-
("niBiOppolition of their i'nrmie!'. They knew that the
■idiic Good ii of[-n promct^ii by the temporary Inconve-
Mciesor Inuiviuuilsi Rn:\ when Aft^tir^of th; highell Iir-
"■lUce demanded their A;iei;tion, whcnt'-.c Srciniy of the
■WrNationand the li-ippinef;. cf their F'j,l/rity were the
ilfcA of their £n(] lirifs, iney wi:-j!y fuifiTed ill's Confide*
■iOM to csfj withuut fj'iCfri'ious and u^fcai'■Jnabte So!li-
itde.
' How juilly they rwfon'J, Plr, and what \'igour their
l^felnrions givetothe ipii'nry *,>;"?raticins, our Vjdririta are
faScieot Prooi : And if Exptritnce be the lureil Guide, it
>uot be itoproper to irni^te thole who, in the iimc Cir-
■bnccs with curfc!ve5,f;und Means tornifc the Honour,
■dJBprcvc the Commerce oi'thrir Country.
'TiucourCircumtbnctsiireche i;:mc*.vith thofc nf theP^r-
laniby which this Law wa<i niacin, i: obvious beyond Dif-
>e;or where they vary, the DiitLfjice is pcriups toourOif-
fUtage. 'A'e have. Sir, the f^mc rx-Lmie!", cr, at leili, have
■ton to apprehend the fame; but hrive iir; c hope of the
M Allies. The prcfent War is lojbc'cairi'::! on at a great-
Diftance* and in more I'l^cc; at ihe fuiT.e i:..~:An: ; v/.-c::n-
nct
^
( a+o )
Anno 1 4, a«) rmt ihtrefbre Tupplx our Shipi occafioulf/^ but moA nu
U. i7io great Nuoibrrs in a Ihort Ttnif.
• li ihertfotr it w» (beo cunc!ui!ed, that the Mel
derour ExAOiinfttion vraiarrful; if M'-'t — - r— -(iiii;
themtelrei, ma]' be luthorizvd by ^ at*f\
*e. in Compluiftce with the lime Ejigcii^c, luvc R<
Cothe fxtne Gxpedientb i*
Sir WilUam Yonjje.
Si «.
Sir WTUiini ' How mocb Weight ii idded to the Deteribi
yoojc [he Houfr, by the Dignity of their Procedure, and it«
ccRcy ofibeir Dilputaitons. a llighc Knowledge of MadM'
it Cuilicienc lo cvmcc. It i^ wdl known ih«( Gu*tt*m0t
U fupfurtcd by Oprntan ; and that he whodrttrtiyi iktj
putaiion. delhoys the Auihoriiy of the Ifgiflfctire ~
Norit it lefi Ap[«rcn(. that he who degrades D*l
ScDtriliiyi BDcl JctLroys ihc hokmiiiiy ol Coofultltua, 9-^
dcAvuurft to fink the Mmite into Contempt.
• h wai tbetelbre. Sir. with Tnd.gitAiicpn and Surpfiv AC
] hcarii ibe OauK before ut ceitCur'd with fuch IndcccaCf ^
Langu*ge. and the Auihon of it treitrd with CantaMiH
and RcproachM [hnt ineer Error doei not drfrnre,
appreni, but which Were cow vcued before any Emrl
d<t<fled.
• I know not, Sir, why the Gentlemen who
ifiderrntly atiuU'd. hare fulTtT'd fach Rrpicael
CenJure and without Reply. I know not why they
omitted CO put the Honourable Gent!emio in Mnd^
Refpejl dne to ihh AHemtily, or to chc CharvAerti
whom he oppofei ; Gcntlemeaeq«al)y ftilPd with
the SubjeA of our Enquifici i and whooi hi* ow«
mer.Ci, bowever Ijirge, or bu Abilitici, howevrr COAI
five, cannot give btm a Right to charge with la
Fotly
• To reprwieh Men with Tneap-^ky n a cKnp
aidwerin^ their Argomrnn, httt i Meihod which tl
this Hcufe ought to excliide frr.m oar Dcbatei*
tnl Civiliry oir the World hat biimflt'd it (ron
Place of Coneooffe rr Converfttion.
• I, for my Pui.S:r. QullalwAyseadegvourtD
Attention tn the QoeHion brfbre ot, wtthoot fuCefli
KeaioD to be biaffed, or my Enquiries divci-.rd by Is
atfcaucns, or perfonal Animoflci&i ner when any
i/ltm deviate) into repro:ichfal and cnntrmptuoui Ljuj
ftiall I be {aduc'd to think more highly df cither ha
ncDtior Capacity.'
(Ht )
' I hive always heard it repreftntc9 as an Inflar.cc of In- ^. , .
fepilf when the Tongue and Heart iriove in Cci.ccrr, uhiu Baiiuud.
Ac Words are Krprekntationsof the Seniimencsi and have
tbcrebre hitherto cndtavoured ts explain my Arguments
with Perfpiciliiy, and to imprcfs my S-.'ntimenfs with Force ;
f Juts thought it Hypocrify to trcit StupiJi'ty with Reve-
Ki:ce,or to hcncur Noiifcnfe with the Cv't^mcny cfa Corfa-
Btiea, Ai Knavery fo Folly that is not reciaim:ib!r^ is to
bclpeedily difpdtched, Eufuiers is to be freed from ObHruc-
tiot, lad Society from Nufance.
' Nor, Sir, when I am cenltired.by thofe whom I may
BKodby the Ufe of Terms correfpondent with i:iy Ideas,
VillI,!^ a tame and fiient SubmilTion, give Rcafon ro fufpefl
tkat [ In conicious of a F.iu!t, but will treat the Accufation
witb open Lontempt, and fhew no greater 1's.eward to the
Abmori, than to the Authors of Abfurdity.
' Tiut Decency is of great Ufe in puUic Debates, I (hall
ret'ilyallow ; it may fometimes fhelter Folly from Ridicule^
uidpreferve Villany from public Detttlion ; nor is it ever
BOtecircfulIy fupported, than when Meafures are promoted
hitBotfaing can preferve from Ccntempt, but the Solemnity
»ith»hicb they are eflabjijhed.
' Occeocy is a proper Circumftance; but Liberty is the
RAnuof parliamenEary Dilquifitions : Liberty is the Parent
•fTiuthi but Truth and Decency are lomecimcs at Vari-
*K: All Men and all Propofitions are to be treated here
*f ihty deferve; and there are many who have no Claim
*fe ID Refpeft or Decency."
w. Winnington.
S,a.
_' That it is improper in its own Xsture, and inconfiftent Mr. Winning.
■vkonr ConHitLition, to lay any Man under an Ob!ig;:lion ;o ^""■
EErft bimfelf. cannot be denied ; it i« therefore evident, that
>M Amendment is necefTiry to the Clault: before us.
' I have for this Reafon drawn up an Auicndmrnt, Sir,
Ucht if approved by the Committee, will, in my Oprnion,
Dove ill the Obj.dicni to t!ii3 Part o.'the Uiil. anci by re*
idling it with our natural and legal Riglui, 1 hope, induce
tile to approve it who have hitherto u-ji>ied ir.
Icherefore propcfe that thefe Wordi ihould be fubllrtutcd
nd of thofe which are thcSubjfift ot tre Debite, or fomc
rr to this Purp-jfe ; Thrit no Tirfcn Hull be liibJc to bs
'OL VII. i i fired
fjinnoi4. Geo fined by virtue of this Aa.unlclj » Wiioefj beinf en
m
if. 7'to ftuM make 0»th of the Mii'de mean our or Nrglefl.
C/^V'N^ ' Tbu5 the Nectffity oi cviminifg Men upon C
tbeifown Ciure will be cntirfly taken awxy. aixl
Clxnfc will thcR IhnJ, ihcre will remain aoSjfpicioDi
juflice, or Oppreffion. becaule none can ^e pnAiTcd 1
the ConciuiCQCC of many Pcrfoni ol difiereot lw<
Kir. Horatio Wa1|Xtle.
Si r,
tr. Horat<o • It doei not yet appear ihat tbe Gent'cmci »fa
ITalpol*. engaged id this Debite liavc fufEticisiIy aitrndcd to f
gence of oiir AfTairi, and ihe Importance of ibe Q
They have laviflicd cheir Oratory in dccijimirg u
' Abfurdily of the Mctho<.U propofcd, kcd dir&uvertd t
gacity, by (hewing how future Navies may be (jpp!i
Cbirity-Schooli, bat have fubditutcd no rxpcJitnti
Place oftliore which tbey fo wirmly coodinin, aot bi
detceoded to iofoim as, how we may now gusrd our C
m^n our Fieeti for immedUte Service.
* There arc fomc CircmnfUnces.Sir, of iheprtfr
which make our NcccfTity of rjificg Sea Force) gi^ai
in the Timei of King WillLia and Qneeu Anne
chief Advj.ntaget thai we gained over the French
Vt'dt*. were the Confequenccs uf our\'i^L<r;ci by La
' At Sea, St, the Bilaccc w.t a!nion ei^uat, tho'ta
Fleet aod curs were united 1 nor did tKcy quit ilx
caufe their Ftceis wcic dcflroyed, but bcc'ia<e ih
obtigc<i to recruit their Lard Furco with iheir
ShtJuM they now declare War againll u!, iney w
under no fuch NecrfTicy of deiraiidiitg tbe Sea Jfer«
they hare now on foot an Army of if>o,ooo Mcft,«4
mainuincd at no greater RxpcBce than 40.OCFO by tbi
(javernmeni ; ai they &re tlicrcforr, lair, fo fermtn
Ijod, we baw no way of oppo&ng ifaem bui by
Fotcej.
* Nor is their Navy fo contemptible 31 fome bll{
by Conjcduie or Mifiofarmaiioii irprcfcnted it. 1]
n hich ihcy have difpatched to AmeitcB cotifiAi ooi
tVao iweniy Ships, of whkh the Icall carry J^>r> C^
tbey arc fiamg out nowan equal Number in
brfides, their EaR-lndia Company It obligt^ .^ Ihi
^hips of tbe Line, at tlie Demand of the GcrtrtuM
* Thtii it appurs we have Ncighboun fufRcientlj
to alarm us with the Smfe of tmmedia "
which ii made more imauctentbythcc
^H At Vntich man their FteetJ, ind whfcb We nttft .'Uno l4,<:f
^Kic if wt bupetoDpporc them with Succcd. IL 17^
"inetd not fay how (iit'e w»can J^pcnJ upon any Pro-
Uwtaf Neutrality, wbitii will be bcft oblcn-cJ when ihcf
onoibc fcciirr'^ vjoliied ; or upon the pacific Inclination of
tlttif MiniUcr ; which IntcrcD. rcrfuafion or Caprice, m»y
*hict,ud to which it n noi very honauroble to trufl for
SHoy flowc^R ihu Nation fink Ipwer. «vhtcli i* or.ly
fiw.braufe it it not invufcd by it* Neighbour! ; intl retains
loni. only bcc-tuie no other hal Lci/urc or Jnclma.
ulfe I hem away f
If ,t hi-'ifiifd wh*l c»n prompt the Prcnch to inierntpt
ution of onr Dcfi^ns, lad in the PuniOioicni
ive plundered aiul infulted ui f h ja pot only
to ar^c the Wtid Alliance between the two Crowns, the
' B'ooJ. the Cnnfomiity of Intcreilj. antl thcif equal
of the EngltHi, but uiother more tinaietliaie Region
It ii fii'pc^cd that under Preience of vindi-
own Rightt, weare endeavouring (o gun che Pof-
he Sfnntfh Dominions, "wJ engrof* the We«tth of
ttw WorliJ, and ihtt ihcrcforeil ti the ir>fi*(e1 of every
1 whole SubjeAa traffic 10 thole Counuio, 10 opp«fe
whether we fuccted or fail in our Attempts on
hive the French Power 10 apprehend. If we
i-, they may proSibly think It neceCtry to
irrnt of our Viflorics, Bod to hinder :ac In-
■y. tu; Doininiim*. ihdt ihcy any fccure their own
i, ind maintain ihrir own Influence.
■i be defeated, of which no Man, Sir, eia
iry, (he trclinxirn of>ll loinfultthe Depref^
l^uQidown tlic Falling is well known ; nor can it
ttiat utir hereditary Knemiei would neglcCl fo
>r<unii)' of ucackingus,
iticy migti*. iirage our Ouifti, and obdiuA our
t, liow they might tnuinpn in the Channel, Hrtd t}!iKlc
-■. rr, mr own Pi>n». hotnbird our rou^n*. in»i ibrearen
■ lAont, I hope I need Dor barely -en' ion, to incite
.'-iy to Itich biCpatch in minningoii r.ecc*,iimny
: anc« from lnf;i)», and from rcrror.
-'■•jStedly, Sir, in our Power to raifc a nir&l
■3 awe the Ocean, and :eltrain the mofl dar-
[•'ji . .;i:r' from any Attrmpti agiinft ui, but this
be r-T ..y Haraogoci. Objeflions, and Difpuca-
<■ Tbere ta nothing. Sir, more frroueotly the SobjcA of
maj oc Dedamiuioo, tbu^tbc Ultfulnefi or Danger of
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AnnoMt^Sco^ Stinding-Army, to which J declare myfelf no otben
11.1740 inclineJ tiian by my Concern for the cooimon-Sfety ; I1
^^-^^y^f^ lingly allow that not one Soldier ought to be fupported
(ne public, whofe Service is not neceflary ; but furely n
of thofe who declare fo warmly for the Honour and Pi
leges of their Country, would expore it to the Infulr
foreign Powers without Defence. If therefore they tb
the Danger of Land-Forcei more than equivalent to
Benefit, they ought unanimoufly to concur in the Incmt
our naval Strength, by which they may be protcded,
cannot be opprelTed : They ought willingly toj;ive t
AHiitance to any Propofitions for making the Fffet fbn
able, that their Declarations againft the Army may nc
thought to proceed from a Refolution toobflnidthe Meal
of the Government, rather than from Zeal for the ConI
tion. For he that equally oppofes the Eftablifliment oi
Army, and the Improvement of the Navy, declares ia
fe&. againll the Security of the Nation ; and tho', perk
without Defign,.expofes his Countrymea to the Merc
their Enemies.'
Mr, Pulteney.
S I &.
iAr Pulteney. * * cannot difcover for what Reafon the Bill before
fo vigoroully fupported, but mull obferve that I have fel
known luch vehement and continued Efforts prodnceti
mere public Spirit, and unmingled Regard for the Happi
of the Nation. Nothing, Sir, that can be urged in fa'
. of the Meafures now propofed, has been omited. U
Arguments are confuted. Precedents are cited ; wbeo Pi
dents fail, the Advocates for the Bill have Recoarfe to '
ror and NeceJDty, and endeavour to frighten thofe w
they cannot convince.
' But perhaps, Sir, ihefe formidable Phantoms may
be put to Hight, and, like the other lllufions of Cowar*
difjppear before the Light. Perhaps this Neceflity wi]
found only chimerical i and thefe Dangers appear only
Vifions of Credulity, or the Bugbears of Impofturc.
* To arrive at a clear View of our prelent Conditio
will be neceHary, Sir, not to araufe ourfelves with gei
AfTertions, or overwhelm our Reafon by terrifying £ca,
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ver, and has been fupported, not by i:s own Anno i,^, Geo.
it by the Interefts of iu Neighbours. The vart H- 1740-
of the Spaniardi are only an empty Shew j they ^-/'VN^
rithoui Inhabitants, and by Confcquence without
bey are rather Excrercencu than Members of
:hy, and receive Support rather than communis
le diftant Branches of their Empire the Govern-
liflut, as the vital Motion in an expiring Body ;
uggle<, which they now make, may be termed
Dies than Effbrti.
>j)^!o therefore, unaffiAed, we bare nothing to
and yet from thence we have been threatened
and Invafions.
le Condition of the French is far difterent, cannot
their Commerce flourifliei, their Dominions are
their Wealth increafei, and their Government
ih fall Vigoar : Their Influence is great, and
I formidable. But I cannot allow, Sir, that they
tained fucb a Height of Power as fhould alarm
ftant Apprehenfions ; or that we ought to fecure
gainft them by the VioUtioQ of our Liberties.
! that the Lofs of Freedom, and the DeflruAion
litntion, ate the worft Confequences that can be
i from a Conqueft ; and that to a Slave the
his Mafler is of no great Importance, it is evi-
the Po«er of the French is of fuch kind as can
H remotely, andconfequentially. They may fill
M with Alarms, and ravage the Tein:ories of
f their numerous Armies, but can only injure u<
if their Fleets. We may wait. Sir. without a
ir, tho* not without fome D.'gree of Anxiety,
if their Attempts upon the neighbouriDg Princes,
be reduced to fight for our Alurs Tnd our
[ by a fecond Armada, which, even then, the
I &voar, and a thoufand Circumflances concur to
It BO focb Fleet can be fitted out by the united
of the whole World ; that our Navy, in its
t, is fuperior to any that can be brought againft
iftcrs ought not to be ignorant : And therefore to
Nation with Apprehenfions of Armies hovering
and of Conquerors to be wafted over by fuper-
na, is to dcflroy that Happinefs which Govern-
rdained to preferve ; to fink us to Tamenets and
■»d to betray as to Infults and to Robberies.
Danger, Sir. be fqcb at has been reprefented, to
we inpote ni Upon whom are our Wcak-
nefs.
f 246)
m
II
o^f-
17 4W-
Arfmi4,<J«> jiefj^ oar Poveriy, and oor Mifi.*rir> to f* ffclTji
wbom; but ihofc who havf ufiirped the Dtrcflio^
which tbcy (liii dot ondcrlUnJ.or which tbcir Sol
the I'rclrrvauon of tlieir own Power hiDtlcrttl \
• Thtt the SpaDiird). Sir, are now riubTed to
Aflance, and prrhsps to ttifult and dcpopoln^e oat
that the Prrr.ch bare difpatchrd a Klcei into the
Sess, tootflrufl, m miy beconjcfluttd, the Prog
Artnt, and that we are in Danger of meeting in
which we did noc exprifl. i> too evMJenc to be com
< Bui. Sir, is not the Spirit of our Elnroitn
floencc lathernf oor L'onardicethanor li^ir ow«
iJoes not the Oppofii.n to our DcCgni, hy wh
tion it dialt be nudr, aiife from ihc Corrcmpt
been brought upon ti5 hy oar Irrcfo^ution, Forbf)
Del«)'if find we reCctneii the firfl tmu'.t, and rt
earlicil t^fTej bjr vigorous Ri')>r>zi)i,our Alerchasi
ago carried on iheir Tr tSc with Set.-u'il|r, ou
wcu'd h^ive courted ut with RcfpcA.and our ABI^
u] wiih Cor,6dtnce. '
* Our Nrgotijiion!, TrtaiJes, Propofjifr, and Q
not otiiy ..(T-.ic'cdthfni Ltilnfe loC'iltcfi their V«i
their I-irrt^, and turtify their Coal'!, but gave ihd
Spiittto rcfid rho^uho cnuld Aot becmiiuertd h
own Cowardice and Pi.Uy. By our iP-tinieii P*|
Tinj^erirg PreparatiOti'. we er^conigrd thofe ton)
v-, who wr>old otbcitvirc have cnl^ hated ha tci I
dttcrrcd rhe^c fiomdtclniinj^in our Fivotir, wiM
or GratiiU'Je might ln*e ir^ iincd to afiill ui. Pi
fuppptt thcHerom whom no mutual Support caa M
Acd who will expcA that thofe will defend tbclri
defe.t thcnifelves ? [
* Bu:, Sir, howenrr laic our Refenttnent vrat
had the Warbeeri profecoted vigoroully after h wf
we might h^tvc bteti imw fccure from Danger,
from ^Qlpertce. not would any thing have rcoui
gi»e Liwsto oi:r Hnemies. ' ]
• Ftom :he Succefi of Vcmon, with fo nt
Forces, wc tn^iy coDJt^ute what would have bccil
*rih an Armament proportioned to hit Undeni
why he Wis not betier rupplicd, no Reafon bai yet |
nor c*n it be cafiiy dilcovcreil why we cithr/ lU
the U*«r before uur Knemiei had concerted cfccj
or delay it tiU wc haJ formed our own.
' NotW'thilaoding fonif OpfnittuDitiabaiTj
and air cite AJVittiag^ of a liidclca
initiu bare fcMl
lAtucki^H
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*j'- ^°^* notwithftindin» our Friends, Sir, have learned Anroi4,Gto.
^P^fe and-iiegk£l as, ana our Enemies are animated lo II. 1740.
iniisitceaDd Obltinacy, yet our real and inirir.fic Strength l/*V*\J
>*V"*enhc fame ; nor are there yctany Prepiratioas ni:ide
l^ivft ui j,y (he Enemy, with Views beyond their own S.:-'
W^f^^nd Defencr. It does not yet appear. Sir, that our
E"*"*s, however irifolent, Jcok upon us as the proper Ob-
IiO>*>f t Conqnell, or thnt tlity imagine it poDible to bc-
■^Vi in our own Pom, or to confine us to the Defence of
•KWfco Coantry. We r.re not therefore to have Recourfe
*™«faffi, which, if ihcjt ?re ever to be admitted, can bs
^•dbyihe utmoil Dillrcfs ; and can only become proper,
■ *'* Wand defperatcKxpcdicnt. The En^my, Sir, ought
' i*'!*?^' not only in our Sca.t, but in cur Porta, before item
f {•■wffiry that one P.irt of the Nation IhouM be enflavM
* tkeprefervation ofthereA.
, 'T»deftroy any Pari of the Communi'y, while it ii
* Ok Power to prefervc the whole, is ciriainiy abmrd,
'^ ncoiiliflrnt with the Equity and PenJcrnefs of a gooJ
I^^VniiiDent : j4nd wh t is Sluvery Icfs than Drltrudion ?
*•« greiter Calamirv has th;t: Mm to expcti, wiio hut
^Bq alreatiy depriven of nis Lirirrty, and rcduck.-d to ihe !.c-
^with rhifvcs a::d Murdtrcrs? W'ith whiitSoirit, S r^
*«! Iw draw ha Sword upon his Inv der*^, who ha; no-
H»j to defend ? Or why iliould he rep? ! the Ir.j.iri''i which
4| Bike no Addition to i.:<: 'viii'ery, and will ^il only on
■Oleco whom he is enilavM ?
* Uii veil known taat Gr2:':u:ici! r'li- Poun-Jat'on of our
^Wy w oor Ciant/y, and :o c -■: •■■; ■ .ors, whom we are
■ligBd to protefi on (oir.e Occi :ij, bccaufe upon others
V htcive ProteAion fromihcn. :.id are m-iintiinM in the
■■n Pofleffion of our FortuncF, 3:id ih? S.'C-jrity of our Lives.
t ivhai Gratitude is d.u eo his Couistry from a Man di-
K(Al*d without a Crii^^e by the Lcg;n.iure. f om therein
People, and imrK'J out for Hjr.j;hips r^nd OppreRlons ?
Vaailan who is condemn'J to Labour and toOinger.only
k others may fatten with InJoIcnc?, and iljmber without
tHaji From a Man who is drng^cd to Mifery without
1, aiid hunted from hit Rc:re:i[, as the Property c-fhii
?
[•Where Gratitude, Sir, is not the Motive of Aflior,
may ieaAIy happen in Minds not accu'tom'd tc otferve
kCadi of Government and Relations cf Society, Interelt
'&ill 10 preGde, which m^y be diltingailVd from Gn-
^ u it regards the immediate ConirqLiences of Adions,
pcoafinesthe View of pretent Advanragei. But wnat fn-
Mftoo be gratified by a Man who is net Mi'.'.er cf his own
Aflisr-i,
'J
( 248 ) _^_
Aiinoi4,G«o Aftiom, nor fecure in (he Enjoyment of liii AcqulEtUfi *
II 174'? W;.y(hQuIJ h« be foU'citoo* 10 incrcafc his Prcpenj, tW
V-^'^YN^ may be torn from ih<: Pofitflion of ic in a Moment f Of i(«*
what Moiive c^n he afl^ who will oot become note
by dotng hi& Uuiy f
* Many of thorc.towhom this Bill U propoi'd toi
have taifcd FoituiKs at ihe Expeoce of their Eafc. ird « till
Hazard of their lives j and now fit at RcA, Cnjoyit^As
Memory of their pall HirdHiipi, and inciting oihctt 10 cte
Profeculion of the Time Adrenturet : How will it be raM
rc3ron;(l>tc to drag ihcfe Men from thcir KojfC), tbaotolieiK
any other Centlemati upon hi^own F.ll^te i Aod how M^
gently will our Nsvigition and our Commerre be prooniAi
when ic isdifcover'd that cither Wea'ih cannot be pincsJlJ'
ibem I or, if (o g-ined, cannot be crjoy'd t
* Rut it ii Hill urged, .Sir, that there it a Nccefiiri
niinningthe Kleet i a NecclHcy which indeed cannot tewf
bedenied.tha'aihoit Delay would produce do frif '^
fequcitcei, would expofe ui 10 no Invafiont, nor ~
from prcfecuiing the Wxr. Yet. ai ihe NecefHty at IcwiX-
ferve* the Regard of the Lrgflarcre, let ai cont'iir' bW
Motives have hitherto gain'd Men over to the )
vice; let ut examine how our Land>FiKcet are -
bowouf MprchanTs equip ih^ir Ships How it all -
ed withouC Murmun, Mutintei, or Difconient, L-i :>^
Batumi and rafy Method crolTenrg Rcwardi i
* ft may be objf Ard, Sir, iiiat Rewards have b««*t
dy [irono>*d without Efiicfl; bur. not to mention tb«i
Ani n-pich have been made ui'e of to elude thai Pre
(cjeAing thofe thai came loc^aim them, we can it
ihtir Iprffic.cy only, that they were too fnwll ; lki|
wete not JuSkicnt to dazz'e the Attentioit, and »iil
from the Profped of the dilbnt Advantages wbicb
from the Service of the Mrtchanti. Let the Rrwtf^l
fore be dotibVd, and if it be not then fufficieot. thvbUAl
Thttc ti tictliingbut may be bought, if an adequate
ofTcred ; and we ate thetefoietoraife the Reward ritl <
be adjudged by theSailori equivalent to the locoM
of the Service.
* Let no Man urge that tbti is Profuftoa ; iktC
Brcacb of Trult, and a Prodigality of the [sjIjIic
Sir, the Mar ey thuipaid i» the Price of Liberty , it m
-KM to hinder S'avery /rom encroaching, to preferve
III Right) frrm Infrj^icn, and the CooUituc
Country from Violence. If we vote away the
OBC CUi'<i miong ut, ihofe of another may qu
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toodd; and Slavery willadvanc; by degrees, tiil t?ie lall Annoii,Gef7.
Atnaini cf FTeedom (hail be toit. 'I' )'4'^-
• But pcrhipF, Sir, it will appca-, upon Rrflcflion, thit "—^ ' ^^^^**^
nea thii Mrthcd needs not to be pra<^]iiid. It is w.-II
kion, that it it not necefTary fjr the whole Crew of a Ship
labecx^rt Sailors; there mull be fume Novices, and m-iny
*fcofe Employment has more of Labour tli.tn of Arr. We
Ane DDW a numerous Ariny which burthens our Country,
•irtoat defending it, and from whom wc may therefore draw
Sapiliesfor thtf Fleet, and diilribuxtlicmamorgil the Ships
■ jnft Proportions ; they may immediately affi:i the Seamen,
Mid will becosie aWe in afliort rime to train up others,
* It will doubtlefs. Sir, be cbjcAed to this Propofal, that
tfceConiinent is in Confufton, and [h»t we ought to continue
ixi a Force as may en:>ble as tn aflift our Allies, mainiaJn
flar iDflnence, and turn the Scale cf Affairs in the neighbour-
V>% Coumrtet. I know not how we are indebted to our
Allica, or by what Tics we ars obliged to alTilt thofe who
'ner iStled ' us i nor csn I, upon mature Con fide ration,
■Uofc ie necellary to be always gazing en the Continent,
taichirg the Motions of every Potentate, and anxioufly at-
lemiveto every Revolution. There is no end, Sir, of obvi-
Mbg Contingencies, of attempting ta fecure ouri'elves front'
■Very Poflibility of Danger. I am indeed defiroui that our
Fiinds, if any there be that deferve that Name, Ihould fuc-
ocd ia their Deligns, and beprote£tcd in their Claims! ; but
Ihirii i; ought always to be remembered, that our own Af-
hintfieft us immediately, theirs only by Canfequence; and
4u the oeareil Danger is to be firft regarded.
■ With refpeft to the Atnendmcnt cftWJ to this Claufe, I
OHocicethat it will produce any A^lvantage, nor think any
■nlmce fufficient to julUfy the BrLSch of our Conlliti<tion,
■vfabjeA any Man to the Hardlhip cf having his Dwelling
^ler*d by Force.
■ Am, Sir, I ant not eniirtly fatitiBed of the Tmpart!.iiity
iMd Equity with which it is prumifeJ that this Law will be
ia Execution, or what new Influence is to cn-opcrate
Ithii X.aw, by which Corruption and Opprcilion will be
Hied.
Il is well'kAown, Sir, that miny o:her Laws aremitile
tiHl by Partiality or Negligence, which remarkably
by the ttDmenfe Quantities of Corn thatare daily
inio foreign Countrie*, by -t'egr-l Exporcitions, by
I Traffic I am informed that we obtain molt cf our to-
Goldp which in Renlity is pid us fgr Corn by the
Cki ibo* k is nudioudy reprefented tn the Nnion as
■Md 1^ oar Tnfic with Portugal, wiio can alTure us th;.c
Vol. VII. K k ibi»
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nfl9|4,GGa.tkt» Liw will not be pen-erced after the Ejnnipl
II. \7A-y
Itr Kr^ert
And that there will oot be Wretctiei fourd that
ii iQ Aic E&iotlioa oF Moocy* or tbe Grytilicuion gf Re-
Ycnge ?
* Thut, Sir. 1 bivc (IieA-n by whit Mean* our Fictc aajr
now be t^uippct), kt\d how a Supply or:i>i!ar> miy be ftu
petuaud ) foi I carnol think how the Bojt which aiTcdan*
ted at Chnri^ School* can be more pruperly ^c»[>1«y«li a
Pioportiop may be ca&ly fclcfleJ Tor the Service, who ml
benefit the Public much moie than by lerving Shaipcfia^
Aitorniei, and pilTcring either at low Gamiog-HouKt, or*
theloni of Court.
* Since therefore ii ii ttoc pretmded, Sir. that tbU BOI^
be jufiihcd othi rwifc than by KeccfliTy. aiiil it appaui
^uppliet may be railed by other Mean*; titice iaMeai, Wj
crcaiiog and encoungiag SettncD, ootiiing ii pranWl
il&ct not jMaiUlWy tend, by depicffi.Dg aiwl harrBwagib
lodiminiQi their Nuitiberi; Itbiiik it rc4(Ni«lile faded
that 1 Qui) continue tu oppoCe it, and hop* tbu every Fntfdi
of IJberty, ox Conitneicc, will concur in tkt OppoAtio.'
Sir Robert Walpole.
$1 «i
' I hare confid'-t'd the Bill bcfonui with cbc MrMlA
pcuTialily, aod 1 can ice no Real'un to appr<h<»d that U
pruJuce (uch univcibl Dilcoiitent, and give Qtcafta> |»j
RiHoy Abufei a& the Honouitible Cicntlrujcn bf wImw '
oppoUd, appear to (ufpe^t. It i* not uttcommoa. &i.
judging ol fuiuie Evcntt.aod tracing iJk&M (torn Cat
the mull :?aj>3cious to be uiiAaken.
* I'he Ul\d Mcihod of conjciluriDgupoa tlM futvltaj
CDD&jcr the pill, for it it al^ayi probable, tkilftoal
CaulCft like Confequciico will atifc. Lat aa ll
examine what InjudJce or OpprrlTion has beta llidttrt«f«^
tiuc'd by Lawi of the fame Kir.d
* Tl« r^erf'rScafchiog, however itiansw
Subje^ of lou-l FxclamattoB, and paibctic l-Unasao«i
new lnva£oD of the Righi5of the fcople, but bubeoi
dy granted in Its uimoU Extent, for in end ufnogreaMri
poriancc than ihc I'rcfeivatioa ofthe Gami; Thia
blc Auchorii> lu) btrn alrmdy trutU-d to iJm MtpflraM^t
th« NalioD hai been already fubjeclcd to tbti
'J'yramiy.only lell thcH^irei nod I'aiiridKealhoald faiti
nj. and GcntlcmKii be obliged to dUbau tJbmr HowAfl
dilmi'i their Settirg-D.gi.
< Yet. Sir, evea with regard to ihif Poim, thn ci
cut, and (hut lightly grantej, 1 bare heaid &o gCAcnl
P^ ( ^5' )
ifiiau, nor bcllcrc that k is look'd itpoa «■ a Gikvance by Anno %4,Gtoi
i*f, bit theft mham it rrfiniini from living upon (he (Jarae. "■ 'T**.
>M condeiRQi M mtirRtajn (Iiemfelpes by a moti; boocilacd
ifafnj loJiillrjr.
* I hope, Sir, tKofe thir think thii Iaw for ibe Prtfem.
nBorLberr Am\i{emeM rations) and juit, will have st IcaJl
be fune Rcfird to cnc D^fcactof ttictr C4U(Ury,anJ will
iM thiolc ihcir X'taifon dffervet greater Sollicitode, than
itif Fortoa« jodiheir I,iUrriics.
• Nor bit difiicLilt. Sir. to produce [nftanccj of llie Exet-
leorthii Po»ver for the End which is now propofcd, with.
It my CoofcqueiKcs [hit lliou)(l liikouragc u$ f(i>in rrprating'
ir EirrtUDcnt. I have now in my Hand « letter, by
1^ - Mayor ami AMerraen of Briflol arecmpowcreil to
he Sailor i wi[tttn ll>e Bounds of their Jurildiflion,
buca Older wut ejcccuird without any Oulcries ot'Oppref-
a. or itppreheii&jotof the Approach of Slavery.
That tliij I^w, Sir. »ill be alwaya exKUtcd wiilt tlie
liu(uiti4ii[)', and wit^iouE the leail Regard to any
ivate PaipoTe), cannot inceed be dcmonflritirrly proved |
-' "^-' r'fSbiy be abufcd by ■ Combination of Pro-
. I rfaink, be granted, thai it is dranrn up
.r «^iLiii..i) ihAt Re^foD, or jnllice, or the Corrup-
c prrlent Age requirci. I know not tvfaat can be
t !■ I ::uT thin an Ailbciationof Men unlkcly (o<ofK
V-. !.>:■ '. 'CtVk and Intctclli. A JulUccof the Peacr, a
iriuut ct a Ship, and a Uomroiflioncr of (he Nnvy. three
I pfobib!? unUiibWD to each other, and of which no
• ili iicat all .'ulliciiout lodciirethe rell to unile. to Cum-
a Crunc tu winch no Trmpunon can be rraJily ima-
I'hn Ciotian, Sir, which cannot but be approved, and
fiireiy i' lon^e Proof nf Judgmeitf. and Cunlideracion,
ill a>v Of>in)on, to have exempted the Bill, and ihofe
WhoJV it wai drawn up, from t'le rcproikchfu)
.i in':^. - ^tt of Abfuidnjf, Ignorar.ce. and Incapa-
rni which the Dignity of this Airembiy does niK
■ ■•■< when they ate incontcfiabiy juO, and which
.:t to be nude Ul'e of when the Q^elh'oo h of
V ■ jrr.
' 'l^men. Sir, who are now entniftetl with pob-
;- ' i,u have never jrec difcovered that they are ia-
^^ PpcdccrflijT* in Knowledge, or ttnef^ri!)-, nor
fher i^.i.if^idrri lufier any DimiauiKHi by s Comporifoa
Sch thafc who I'llify nnd traduce tfaeni.
I'ba^, Sir. ilijc treat o<her* with fuch Ilcentlou} Con*
pt, iTjghl (BTciy toeivc fome illallrrous Proof of ibelr ouo
'^ Kkz AbiUtict t
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rioijjGjo /iV:'.::if E ; ar.i yC, iTwc cxamiie what hasbetn produced e<
l^J^ il.i- Qutliiirn, -vcUiilI liiid no Rcafoo to admire ihcir Sagi-
'y^^ city, or tliclr Kixulci'ge
• Wt Ji:.vc tic.-ii toM, Sir, that the Fleet might prjperly
be ni:inti\i by a Dcatcltnient from the Army, but Jt h^s nvc
bicn }:ruvt.J tliat wc luve ary fuperfluous Koicet i:i tiic King-
coin, nor, ir.dccd, \vi,l o.ir Army be found fufficientiy nume-
TOJs, if, by nc'glt^tjii^ to tquip our Fleet, we give our Ene-
mies an OptOitu;iiiy (.f cnicring our Country.
■ if it he eH(]jiicvl vthnt Necef&ry there is for oar firefent
I-'orc.:: ? uh.it E.\pi:Jiiion^ arc dtfigri'd? or what Danget*
crefiar'ti? I tti.v'n net thintc it my Duty to return any An-
fivcr. Iejs, S.r, the grc:tt Unh-ipi'iinefs of our Cooliitutijn,
that our Dt-Lemiin itioLi5 cannot be kept lecret, aod thhtcur
l^^cniits m::y itluays form Curj'ftjrcs of our DefigRi, by
kiii.-wing Our rrcpaitiiiionr j but furely more is notta^epub-
li.li'J t!i;u NectlJicy exoris, and tnt Govcroment hasaki^M
to co.ico.ll wiint i(W;iulJ i'^jurc the N.ition to di'cjver.
■ Nor can I, Sir, uppruve ttic Meth'd uf levying Sailoii
by ti-.c- IncitciDcr.t of m Lxorbicant Reward, a Ki:War<J to be
auj^'rr.c-.tjd at l>.c I'lcifun' of thole who aie to receive ii.
lo.- what cm I,: ilit t oii{'Lijufi.ce of fuch Piod^'g\!i(y, bat
ttii: chcit.', lovvl.om tlii: Idrgtll Sum ii offered, will yet refufc
ibtiir Scrvic'j i-. Kv]"ccl.i'.ioii of a greater ? The Rtwaid
ai.LMtiy pr>>pok(! :;, ii< my Opinitv, the utmolt Stretca d
Libtriy ; :.ii 1 ai! biryond may becenfur'd as PrcfuGon.
* ][ i: II >i [(I b:: ::n=gir.\'. Sir, liiat ali iheJe C^jsflioni
wovi- ri [ liv-'ii-,. aiiJ ..r.-v.^TfJ. i:i the Reign cf the 1-ite Qaeer,
^vh-jn a l:! o:';...- i::ne Nr.iurc was pa poled ; theyarear.-
i»V'.;r-.-ii ..: !c.iit by tli? Nti:-:;i:y of [Juic 1 in.es, which Ne-
i.f.:i:y i. ..7 siO'.v ;-.fL;r::'J lipcn uf.
' \\ cCo r.ol li.J t'-;: it proJiiccJ any Confequencei fj
fiiniiiJ:.!.".'.: ai.^i i!i:;:rui:: vt-, ili;: thi-y (hoc!d for ever Oiic^u
r.iiii" u- fr n ;i: c. ;p ir jF to i.Mli- hoi CCS liy iIk- f.»nie Mrins :
Jti*iJ i-.-jn rc.i .: y tiai:i;J, mi.! f vccutt-J witliout 0;^pv!Kifn,
a -<^ V.' tii'i.t L>>-i.i>!;.int^ ; r.ordiiX believe that any NieAli;:u
can be |ii.;^jiL« o\ tquai Lliuucy, and Itls Scvcrjty.*
\:r Sai.iyr. ■»
Si r.
,, _ ,,.. « W'Uc --tV..- Prcce.^.*:n:sproiiLC*J in Di'fcncc of thi^ Ell'
*""■**'" wil" h.^L more \...vl;t than the Ari;U3ient», muk be faewi
bv a citcIlI L.'..';;i:;i:,i:ior. wl.ich wiil perhaps dilcover lii^c
the CitT i'cr.z tc iii£ \i iy:l:r.'.*.Li of Utitlol ccr.vey'd no new
Pcw^r, rcr '.-xi: i:-^ U, ii;ai-.y rclpeCt, parallel to that which
t:iii U.llii i;.:i:c:-.iJ :j ccnur.
* Thc}'ts;:.-s oaiy (.njcioed to enquire wvtii more tlua
uiual
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il StriAaefs, ■((» Strollers and Vagibondf, fuch as the Annoi4,aea
n hai always fubjefted to Punifhmcnt, and lend them to 1I^74^-
t Fleet, iniicaJ l f any other Place of Correflion ; a Method ^-/r^V/
kichmay now be purfueJ without Danger, Uppufition, or
BmpUint.
■ Bu: for my Part, I am not able, upon the clofcd Atten-
t* to the prefent Scene of AfFiiri, to find out the Nccefficy
^extraordinary Methods cf any Kind. 'I'he Fears of an In*
fion from FranLe. art, in my Opinion. Sir, merely chime-
•aX i from their Fleet in America the CoalU of England
ve nothiBg to fear, and aficr the numerous Levies of Seamen
which it was fitted out, it is not yet probable that they
1 ipeedily fend cue another. \Vc know, Sir, that the
UDDcr of Seamen depends upon the Extent of Commerce,
i (brely there ij as yet no fuch Dilproportion betn-ecn their
■uie and oun, as, that they fhould be able to furnifh out a
ral Arinameat viiih much greater Expeditioo than oun-
»es.
' In America, our Forces are at lead equal to thetrg, fo
IX it is not very probable, that, after the total Oellrudion of
r Fleet by them, they fhuuld belu Ii;tle injured, as to he
Ic immediately to <et faii for the Cliannel, and infult lu in
r OUTD Ports ; to elfefl \hU, Sir, they mull not only con-
Rr us. bat conquer us without Refittar.ce.
"* If ibey do not interrupt us in our Attempts, nor expofe
Kafelves CO an Engageiiunt, they may indeed return with-
ifcfiering great Danishes, but J Unow not how they can
Elbe Shores of America unobfcrved, or pour an uQexpefl-
ilBTsfioD upon us. Ifihey comiiiue (here, Sir, they cjd-
tbartos; and when they rciuni, we may prepare for tneir
Tbeie are Men I know, Sir, vvho have Reafon to think
kljr of the French Policy, and whofe Ideas may beexalt-
laBclief that they cmpcrroim ImpofiibiJitiea ; but 1 have
. prevailed upon mylclf to conceive that they can bA
i\j, or that they c»riequip a Fieet by Sorcery, coIleA
lAim/ in a Moment, and dety us on ourown Coall, with-
(aay perceptible Preparations.'
|iSir Clurles Wager.
Si a,
[• ne calamities produced by Difcord, and Contention, Sir Charles
to be pointed out, but it may be proper to rcfletl Wagtr.
I the Conlequences of a Houfe divided agaiail itfelf, that
■aj codeavour to avoid them.
Douimity is produced by nothing more powerful than
tiBpcaduig Danger, and therefore it may be ufeftU to fhew
I thofc
( *54;
*",f I^'o'^'Aofewhofcem « prefent ia profbond Sewhj, il
, yv/'-v 1 Power of Fruce is more fonnicUblethu tbcT arewil
*^^'^ allow.
* My Age, Sir, eoablet me'to remember faaajr 1
tiona of the War in ihe late Reigns, to wbicb maajr i
men are ^trangerst or of which the/ bare oaly ii
Idea* from Hittorj and Tuition.
* ia the fecond Year of the Reign of King Willi
French gaioed a Vi&ory over the united Fleets of th
time Powers, which gave them, for the Sommcr W
the Domiaion of the Channel, enabled them to ibut
Merchanu in their Ports, and produced a total Sofpe
our Commera.
* TboA, Sir, to whom the Importance of Trai
well known, v^i'A ea&iy appiehend the Weight of thi
roity, and will, I hope, rejed do Meafiirca that ban i
fcii Tendernels to prevent it-
* Our Ships, Sir, do not lie ufelefs becaafe tberc
Want of Seimen in the Nation, but bccaub aaf Sd
preferred to that of the Public.
* There are now to my Knowledge in one T«*n
Weft CoaQ, no fewer than 1 200 Sailors, of which I
third Part muy be juAly claimed by the public Inieic
do I know why they who obftinately refute to bn
Country, Ihould be treated with fo macfa Tendenie&
more rcalooable titat they jhonlii fuSer by their I
than that the general Happiseft Ihould be emlxDgeid
Mr. Southwell.
S 1 a,
Mr.SouthveU ■ When any Authority fhall be lodged id my H«^
exercifcd for the public Benefit, I ftiall always emhl
eiicrt it with Honefly and Diligence 1 but will ■
made the Inflrument of Oppreffioo, nor execute^
miffion of Tyranny or Injultice.
« As therefore the Power of fearching is to be pi
the Hands of JulHces of the Peace, I think it need
dfclare that I will never perform fo hatefol a PM
Office, and tha;, if this Bill becomes a Law, I will
from the Place to which my Authority is limited, rad
contriburc to the Mifeiics of my Fellow SubjcAi-*
Mr. Lyuleton.
Si a,
„ , * All the Arguments which have been ofiered in
mr.Lytueton^j this B.ll. are reduced atUlttoone coiObKt Afli
the NcceOity of paffing it.
(HS) ^_
« been told, Sir, with great Acuimelf. tluit a Anno 1 1, Qeo
be cariioi on wi;houi Men, and itiat Hkipt »ta " 1740
tvnthvKSanorii udfrom rbenceitnuirerrcdchu tbc '>>^^Y'*^>
lit Mcvflsrr.
Farces trt, by fotne mfao', ne:clljir/ to be railed,
■rjl OpponcDts ot the Bill will not deny ; but they
Tore allow the iDference, ihic che Methods now
are neccfitrjr.
y SIC of Opinion, Sir, (hat ctoel and oppfcflive
cm never be juilibecl, nil all others have been
It Effeft : they ibink that the JLaw, wbeo it was
,fiii, w» unjuJI, and are convtDced, by ublerviag
was revived, thai it was by ExperiCDCO dil-
be nfeier*.
ry.abfolute NeceOtty, i>a formidable Sounds and
iIk Keikand timorous into Silence and (JoapU-
it will be Toaod, opoa Refle^tioo, to be olten no-
ifl »dte FtiiDt, TO amu'eani todcluJc usi aoJ tbn
rcprerented ns neccITir)' to the Public, is ooly fome-
;C0Mvmicnt to Men in Power.
leceficy. Sir. has heretofore been produced as a Plea for
[•> fdbe no oiherwiie defenJcd. Jn the Dnys of
-■ Money was declared to be legal, beeauie it
;-.! ... Suvh ws* the Rcafoning of the Lxwyeri,
)c.cfniina:ion of the Ju^^gei : but the Parliament,
lest of PAtrioit I wiibeui Fear, :ind withoat Cor-
ind irfluenced only by a fincerc Rfgird for the Pub-
of a diff^reni OpinioD, aad neitlm admkted the
nor Netelfiiy.
It will beeofflc (u on rh'n Ocdfion to aA Wjth eqoal VJ-
r, tMl cefivipce our CoaDcryaicn, thtit vfe proceed upoa
Principles, and that the Libenics cf the People ah
fc»ief Care.
I bope rut Dull unite in defeating any Auempts that
iaipiir the Rights which every Briton boafti a» lii»
■nyhi. and rrjici a Law which wH\ be equally dnadad
' ierllcd with the In^ificicFa o( Spain,
ftr Wdliim VoB^e.
Si a.
jTbo' nuny particular Clauf» of thi^ Uill have been
roved ar^l oppoled, fomc with more, and t^ainc witti
ifon, yet ihc Committee hai hitherto agr«ed that a
II far thii Pucpofi jt tcc*ff»ry in the prclent Sute of our
ins Principle wc have proceeded thus far*
en have piupuicd their Opiaiooi, coniiibutoj
Sir WiUiafn
Vonfc.
(256)
Aiinoi4, Geo ^^^■'' ObrcTTatiofls, tnd laboured » iH an A£i
IL 1740. Kdmitted to be of high Importance to the genera
^^yV"^^ * But now, Sir, when fome of the BiScali
mounted, fome Expedients luckily flruck out. 1
tioDS removed, and tl^ greac Defigii brough
Execution, we are oa a fudden informed, that
hour is fupcrfiuous, that we are amufing ourfel'
lefs Confultations, providing againft Calamiti
never happen, and raifing Bulwark) without an
< therefore the Quellion before us it of no Imp
the Bill ooght, without farther £xaiDtnatioii» i
rejected.
, < 1 fuppofe. Sir, I fhall be readily believed,
clare that I (hall willingly admit any Atgumeo
evince our Safety ; but in Proportion as real Fi
Danger is to be defired, a fupine and isdoteat 1
is to be dreaded and avoided ; and I cannot bat
Bncmtes are more formidable, and more malici
Gentlemen that oppofe this Bill have reprelente
* This Bill can only be oppofed upon the
that It gives a Sinflion to Seventies more rigor
prcfeat Circumltaoces require ; for nothing can
' lacious or invidious than a Comparifon of this ]
Demand of Ship-Money, a Demand contrary
and enforced by the manifelt Exertion of arbitra
* How has the Condud of his prefent Majt
lemblance with that of Charlei I ? Ii any Moo
Order of the Council ? Are the Detcrmina
Judges let in Oppofition to Afls of Parliam
Man injured in hts Property by an unltmitc
of the Prerogative i Or any Tribunal ellablifiie
the Laws of the Nation ?
< I'o draw Parallels, Sir, where there is no I
and to Bccufej by Infinuations where there is n
a Crime: to raife Outcries when no Injury i
and to deny a real Neceflity, becaufe it was on
for a bad Purpofe, is furely not to advance the pi
which can •only be promoted by jull Realontn]
Reflcflions, not by Sophillry and Satire, by
without Ground, and by InlUnces be&de the Piu
' • Mr. Lyttlecon.
S I R.
Mr.Lyttlcton * Tnie Zeal for the Service of the Public
covered by collulive Subterfuges and malicioiu
lions ; a Mind attentive to the common Good, «
(M ao Occa£oa like this, have been at Leifurc 1
( '^57 )
l«rmler> UluIlratioD, and exu-aft Din^fFv^ion from a cafuil Annni4 Gro
Snirk. II. 1740.
■ It a, indeed, not impoflible, Sir, that I might cxprcfs \../^y~'\^
nffelf obfcurely, ard i( may be therefore nccefliry to dc-
ctuttlut I intended nodilrefpe^lful Uefleftion on the Con-
dadoThis Majeftj', but mult oblerve at the fame time, that
(Mnie or iiuccurate Expreflions ought always to be inter-
Vmi in the molt inoffcnfivc Meaning, and that to be too
npdoat in dircoverirg concealed Infinudtions, is no great
raof of fuperior Integrity.
■ Wildom, Sir, is l^Mom captious, and Hon:S.y feldom
fiifpicioos: A Man capable of oniprehendi; g the whole £x-
tcMofa Queftion,djrJains to divert his Atiention by trifling
Obferrationit and he that is above the PrafliceofljtHe Art;,
or the Motions of peciy Malice, does not eafily imagine theai
indeat to another.
' Th»l in the Queftion of Ship-Money Neceflity was pre-
InM, cannot be denied : and therefore aU that [ al{'er:cd,
vfcicb wa> only th^t the Nation had been once terrificH with-
, Mt RcaloD, by the formidable Sound of NeccHity, is evident
■■d BncoDtefied.
t- ' When a Fraud has once been praflifcd, it is of LTe to
' nwaber it, that we may not twice be deceived by the fame
Anifer, md therefore I mentioned the Plea of Neccffity,
ttnitmiy be eoquir'd wiiether it is now more true than bc-
,, * Tbitthe Parliament. Sir, and not the judgei, is nov ap-
[IGtd to, il no Proof of the Validity of the Argument! which
■tvc been produced; for in the Days of Ship-Money, the
,. tWnt of tbe Parliament had seen aiked had there been any
Av^Kft of obtaining it : but ttis Court hj;i beer convmcM,
l^^inqaent Experiments, of the [r!l;xLbility of ihe V^r'.'n-
^•^tBOtfUui defpaired of influencing c!ic:n by P'-j'p ;i, cf AJ-
l'^Age,or intimidating them bv FroMii.-v: ^Irr^c's.
^. * l^bythis and every future l'a'l<'.m>.nt ini'iiiL !'.;i' Cnn-
mB, and, like them, dittinguiih between rra' -ind pr^tci.ded
Ihceffity i andlct not us be tcrrifiid by iJ!c C imiun into
Vbt Efbblifliment of a I^w at uuce u/lIcis and op^-rtiTivc.'
Sir William Yonge.
• That r did not intend to mifreprpfent t'lc Meaning of S'r Wi'Ijam
te Honourable Geollemsa, I hope it is not n^i-'-'fi'v to .ie- ""•''t*'
iu* i **^ that I hive in reality been gi^i'ty or any Mifre^
vlieaiatioo. I am no; yet convinced. It' he did n«t intenJ
pmllel between Ship- Money and tne prefcn: K<>1, to wh-<c
ifpofe was his Observation * And it he d:d intend it, W4s it
Vol. Vil. L I not
A line II. Ceo
II I? 40
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not proper to flirw there waj no Rcfcmbfancc, nni
which couM be interred trorn it wai therefore f-iflacieoi
iocoitcluiive ?
■ Nor do I only differ. Sir, in Optoioo with the Hoog
b!e Gevtlemin with relation 10 his Compnnfon ofMtai
which have notning in cooimon with each other 1 but 1
venture to declare* that he is not more accurate in fan
tioai from Hittory. The King did not app!}' to the Ji
beciurcihe Psriiament would not have emntcd him the
oey that be dejuindcd, but bcciiulc hjj chief Ambitiaa w
govern the Nnion hy the Prerogative alone, and to (Vet
(elf and his DeCccndaois froni p^rliamencary Enfjuines,
< That this Account. Sir. is jull, I am conhdcni the
tortet of thole Times wiU difcover ; and therefore any
dious Comparifon between that P^irltaracnt acd any oUm
wilhom Poundaiion in Reafonor in Truth.*
Mr. Bathuil).
Sir,
* That thU Law witi eafily admit, in the Execgtion
foch Aburciaiwillorer balbnce the BeneUti, miy reuli
proved; and it wiH not be conBllent wtih (hacR<gxrd
Public, expeiicd from lu by thole whom we reprHcai, ig
a Law which may proibably become an I oUi uokcnt 01
fion.
* The Servant, by whom I am now «tended.
termed, accordingtoihe Dciermlnatioooflhe \ i*Jicw
thii Bill, aSej-nring-Man, having been once 10 the
Indies; and he ainy thcrcfurc l>e ibiird from mr f
and dragged into a Ship by the Auihoiuyof 1 '
Peace, periuipi of fome absndon'd Prbiiiime tt^--
Commi&on only 10 influence FJc^lioni, aiidaw« tbote
Kxciles and Riot AiXi cannot fubdue.
• I ihink It, Str, not improper to do-hr*-, that I
Force oppole the Execution 0/ a Law }ik:tbUi i
bar my Doori aod defend ihcm ; that I woatt) call
boors to my AffiSutce; and treat thofe who IboQ
to enter, without my Ccafcot, atThicfca. Roffijuis, s
dcxeri'*
Lord Gage.
Sir,
• It h well kflo^vn that by the laws of tUs NsiSm
Zis in feme Dtgiee con&dercd u a Cnme, aid
ebtor bai onty ihis vXdranuge ovex the Feloa, tl
BO! be purfoed into hii Dwelling, nor be fcrx:;
Shelter of his own Houfc.
' I tUak it Is aniverril)}' agf«d, th« the Condition of i Anno T4.
UuiiDcbtii aliMdy fufficicmly inlfcritle, and thiit he il i7«o.
wiiAtbe more w.'inSy of ihe l^giflative Fuwer to conirive
AtVruiluit of bit I Urdlhlpi, tlun Additions to thcrn ; and ic
fontb-rclore no ificonfldcnble OKjcAiori lo thii Bilt, that
l^Wt/tmBg tbc Power of entering Hoareiby force, tt ma/
ft the Hjrpiei of the Law an Opportunity ofrniering. in
CW Tamult of an Imprrf:, .md of cingging a Debtor to l
•olfen Prifon. ondrr Frncncc cf forcing SiiJoii ioio the Scr-
vireori^CrowQ.*
Mr Tracy.
St..
' Tlut foroe Ijkw for the Ends propofed by the Bill before ». _
Lkcecdiir)'. I don'r fee how we c*n doubt, after the Decia- *'
"^i of the Adairrals, who are fully acqiuinted with the
X for which Pruvifion it lu be made, and of the Mint-
17. wJiofe Knowledge of the prefent St»tc cf our otva
jih, »rid (he Udigni ofoor Entmie}, ii doubtlcft more
tiiA Uiey can xcquire who arc not engaged in public
ire, (he Meafure* row propofed are neccffiry,
iu>' tniy not l>e "grrcable to the prcl'ent Dtfpofiiioni of
tiePeopIc. forwhofe Prefrrvaiian they are intenjcd, 1 fljiH
1 lUilc it iQj> Dmy 10 concur m them, thai ihc public Scrvico
I ^ not be retarded, nor the Sifety of a who'e Nition ha-
[**'td, by afcrupuluui AiteniiuD to minute Objc£tiona.'
Ut CainpbetL
' 1 hire orteo amUn my Elogics on Brrtini Liberty, and Mr. CampJieU
"iDecbraiiom of t^e EJ(celIcn>:e ol our L'onlliiuiion, the
tulity of oar Guverameni, and the Ffltcjcy of our
been rrproiched by Foreigner! with the Prafticc of
T:l. at act Ulii(faip which woatd ralfe a Rebellion ia
i' ' rchie;, ini kindle tlwirc Nationi into \fadneft,
U \»ny Agei known no other Law than the Will
nr rn.TjL'i. A Hirdihip which includes [mprironroent
Slavery, aad to which therefore no Aggravauoos oaghc
• But if lullice and Rcafon, Sir, are to be overborn by
ty 1 if \' " '•, to Aop our E»r» againil the Com-
of the f J »od bajfd^ ojr Hearts at the Sijht
llieir Mifery, let a at leall not dcflroy our Meraoriei, nor
*rive ut of the A Jnntagci of Esj^erjence.
[• X^r. HI ctK^we, sir, what were the EfTsfb of th» hateful
L I z Autho-
( 26o )
Anr>o i4,<ico Authority when it was formerly configo'd to the Mtnftnta.
II. 740. Were our Fleets mann'd in zn Inftiint ? Were our Harboun
l-^^Y%^ immcdiate'y crouded with Siilors? Did we furpriic wi
Enemies by our Expedition, and make Conqucfti before ip
Invafion cculd be fufpefled ? I have heard. Sir. gf ao fixh
Confcquerces, nor of any Advanttgcs which defervcd to be
purchafed by Tyranny and Oppreffion We h«'e found thit
ver>' few were procured by the Mzgiftrstes, nod the C!mge
of leiiing and conveying was very confiderabie, and thtrrf.ie
canrot but concI'Ji^e, that illegal Meafure^. which have bees
once tricdwithout Siccers,fhoa!d,foradouble Reafoiii never
be reviv'd.
Sir John Bernard.
S I R,
Rir John ' It is not without Regret that I rife fo often on thiiOc-
)l:ui.;ud. cafioii ; for to ilifpuic with thofe whofe Dett;rniir.atlont rt*
not iiifluLTced by Re^fon, is a' ridiculous li>i)t, a tircfoi&c
L'llinur without Profpefl of Reward.
■ But as an Honourable Gentleman has lately remarked,
that by denying the NccelGty of the Bill, jnllead of loakiaf
Objc£lions Lo farticuLir Ciaules, the whole Dcfigo of fipctng
Expedients t) lupp')' ^^^ ^^^ Service ia at once defeated: 1
think it ri^c^lTsry t:> remind hirai that I have made maflj
Obj.£lion£ to this Bill, and fupported ihcm by RcafoBtwhidi
have not yet been anfwer'd. Bot I Ih^ill sow no Ion|Lr
confine :i'.v Remarks tofingle Errors, but obrerve that there
is one ^;' -lal Dcfi^, by uhich the wfaoie Dill is made ib-
iurd &r.iJ ufelcf^.
' For the Foundation of a Law like this, Sir, the DefcHf-
t;on ol a Seaman ought to be ti)u5 accurately laid down, k
uuglii to be decland v>ii:it Afi< (hall (ubjeA him to that Dt'
ri^minatiLT, and by what Mean», aficr having once cnli£ei '
hitalclf in cliis ur.hnppy Clafs of Men, he may withdraw ic-
10 a mure fccurc and huppy S:ate of Life.
* Is a Man, uho has or.ce only loit Sight cfthe ShoKt to
be hunted as a Sea. an ? Is a Man who by Tr:i£c ha. ca-
Tichcd a Family, to be forced from his Poneir>:>n< bv tu
Auilurtt^cf ..n Tinnriifs ? Is a Man, who hdS putc^ikftd u
Eitice, and built a SlVii. to follicu the Admiralty for a Pio-
te^liuii from the rii.-i'^r.'^jcuring Conltable? Such QjillioniAi
tliefe. Sir, m.iy betik'd, which thi: Bill before u^wJicuhU
no Man en Ar.l'wer.
• If a Bill for this Purpofe be truly neccl]\ry, let it at leafl
be frv'ed from iiizn oitcr.livc Aufcrdiiiek i It: :t be drawa op
iu a Turiu as ilihcreLt as u pclUbie Iruai ;i;Lt cf the Bill br-
ion
( 26i )
em, audit Uft [am far from imagiaiog that a Liw will Anroi4,Geo.
ctmirivcd not injurijus to Individuals, nor detrimental to H- 1740.
Public i not contrary to the firft Principles of our Ella- ^/"V'^SJ
anciu. sad DoiloudL-d with Folly and AbiiirdUies.*
Mr. Viaffr.
Sir,
A Definition of a Seaman is fo necelTiry in a Bill fur Mt. Viner.
\ Purpote, tltat the Omiflion of it will defeat all the Me-
d» that CJa be diggeJted. How ftiall a Law be executed,
■ Pcnaltjr inflidi^, when the Magitlrate has no certain
iks whereby he may diltinguifli a Criminal ? And when
a iJic Man th-.t is profecut^d may not be confcious of
ilr, or know ir.at the Law extended to him, which he is
Lr^ed with having cftended.
if, IQ de£oing a Seaman on the prefent Occafion, it be
nghc proper to have any Regard to the Exampleof our
dcceffi>n, whofe Wildom has in thii Debate been lo much
piified I it may be obtervrd that a Seaman has been for*
rljr defined, A Man who haunts the Seas ; a Definition
idlfBcau to imply Hubit, ami Continuance, and not to
iprehcsd a Man who has perhaps never gone more thin
»gfe Voyage.
Bat iko* this Definition, Sir, (hou'd be added to the A-
adoMMs already propoied, and (he Bill thereby bj brought
mvhlt nearer 10 the conl'.itu:ioniil Principles uf our Ou-
aaieaCi 1 cannot yet thiuk it fo much reflihcd. as that
Haidlliips will not out-weigh the Bent^fits, and therefore
[I coBiinue to oppofe the Bil, tho' in lonie purticuiar
aSn I have do ObjeAion/
rbc Term Sea-faringMan was then left out, and the fe-
ll Ameodmenta were admitted in the Committee,
tcociffcd the Report of His Majefly's Anfwer to their
licf*! That he would give Direfiioni for a Scheme to
prepared to.prevent the Running of Wool.
toad a firtt Time, a Bill lor fupplying fome DefeAs in
Iawi for repiiring and rebuilding County Bridges : and
repiairing, enlarging, eieAing, and providing Houfes cf
rBfiion.
Ic lotli. Read a firll Time, a Bill for the Improvement
c MaoufilAure of Woollen Broad Cloth, and to prevent
fef to the making of the fame.
md a fccood Time, a Bill ior fupplying fbme Defefli
he Ijaws for repairing County Bridge^, and for pro
m Hoida of Corrcdion.
• Read
t 262 )
An-'K>i4.Gca Rend a'tbip] Tirsr. anl p«fl«d the * Bill fin c^^_
II '740 Trade lo and hwm ?A/f» through /r»JE«: Oidoti •
* Abilrad of the Hill, for opearag a Tnde to ta^ <
PerCh, ihro' Ruffix,
«• IfWftfr it /./f/f-ri Paltnt, iattd ftlnaiy
firfi *nd /fi9t>A YtHT rf Kfg Philif *mJ :^rm
Msftfi/t did iremt f ti'r Mrrtbaml Mvtntmftrt *f ■
fir ibf Difpviry </ Lamdi, Ttrrifwrin, ffitJ, ^t,
m*d atH h*fxt their tan AivenliTt or EmttrfnKt, ty ^
Wwlffl/^w. itmmwlj frt^iitmiti tin foU Pr,~^:}.-e tl
M tU OtmtMtMi and Ter^irtrUi e/* /W / '
jfiUvjiHrrmi thf LibtrtUt, iifc. grrnntrJif ;.'.. i^.. ■^t:itl
Hut, •utrt fifttrrivarJi bi JS of Ptnlmmtai m ikt
^tfttn EUsiaiilif tonjirmid to lift /aid Mftt^m a%d tkilr\
tf^i, iij ttr Namf e/'The h'tllowdup tjf ^:^>5llfti W
for the Dtkovtty ul new 1 radci (wma nmi^^m/f
Jtm^aXaarfairv J Ay -k'W. 6 /A* /«iV ftihmJUf ,rff ,
/t/tPfivi/ftt ff Itadmg la and fttm iht 0»mMa»»\
Hfitt tf m Bmpttw «f fiM^», jVmt Nmth'
fmft-^itmrJt^ and fhrtb-'astfi viardt f^^m Ltmdmi
tbt CwMtrui ff Armtitia Majsr, ar Mimr, iMf*,''
Piffiat er it/ Cf/fiian Sra : Afd it>^r«f , hy a»
icwfr aad 1 1 tif Yiori rf Krttg H'lOfam III. tj n/m
tfRjfJra.aij Sf ■ i Rtmlm balk a R'i*i »
fm tf tot /aid 1 , tw Paymimf if 5/ f*J •
And '-.•.htrioi, ^ am .it rj' hii latr Mapfy Ch^rlo
twttJir^i»X and iantpfi^ y ^i'iffiif awd S
tmti.ti. 'that m Cr^ ^ fitfiga Gfvjeih oW
m'^^ tf tht fiid AH mtf ttveift^h r-r* Karl
iSr. tm Et^f'/t IT M&ir Siifftin, w: -^ ^ <
at thr/im n ict^tT-t^J. ^tallttfitrff • '' '
ttkft Plui pr F 1 BT Cnf^t'y.
fiafttf tki jAidL.^. . ?t»dMattm,mr iXii.).-.- ,.
tkiH Fxrti 'u-h/n tar /aid f^atd, aad CtmamJitiu ■
mjAel^ h&dh;{'* '■- ■ ■'•■■'■■i f- ■•. — / — -
Miter, Ka^ tit i
i- and divtatd m iM tit Jaid 4.
n-y.-v.-- :<:/ /nid AS jhaU wtt tMtt%dtt ft^i:*-xt iti
»/ IW C*mmtditiu tf ibr Strnj/ili tr Lnfami $*"*. n II
*«-^ St/^of, aavij rttd at ttfrtia ■•'■ - tit
, ( 4fi3 ) ._
[TWHonfa rcfolved Aem intoiCommitteon itiC BiH for Anpn t ^,Gea.
ACMin{;Cinent of SnincD, and Ipndlcr Manning ihe HfiMi-
,«hnSirCbarl« Wager ofirr'd* Claofe by which irwa> L/"V'N«,/
r*s*dffd. Tbat no Merchaoti, or Bodies Corporate, or
^Akl) hire Sailors at bigiicr Wages than 5; 1. for the
,oa Pain of forfeiiiagtlie tttbte Value of iJieSam fo
liixt wliKb Law wiu 10 commence xfcer Fificcn Dxvt,
for B Time to be agreed on by the HouCd.
llfokc to the following Put pole.
St^.
I Wt, ar th* imfoflu^ any EaJflmMia Cnmwt»ditirs
tAi m* S^fffiigt ^"^ mtV4gauJ at ahrv*faid, t9 tiv
' 4»d Eafiv.-nrtl t/ Caba btim Spi'aiitMf titW tht
tin it nt tj It/t very GroM/lh if ibt fmJ Plaett
^md'u.hertat et thi Timt ff pfj/ifg tf" faidlafi'
tjIS, It Kuaj rgt ujual {g bring 10 tbti Ki»pUm Ravr-
CtmmMSlitj af tht Crp^wib and ManvfaQurt »f
! &M^a. A»d ivbittai it may bt tf ^t*tt A^vmrn-
FXt^iAjv, Ic 9f€H a fradttt mnd f'sm Perjta.lkro*
t^fnmrtir^ tbt Ctn/umpiisfi ef ibt WvslUn tni 9tbtr
m ibrrt^, if Rtnv Silt, and tfbtr Gttd', tht Pr$-
Jffm/iM, bf ptrmiifrd fa ht imptritd inio thii Kin^dtm
y^tptt ii return ftr furb tVseiiin and nbtr Mam/tt-
*fnil bt txpoTltd fum bintt ihIq RtiJ^a, and frsm
ttltmJ inia Ftr^a, and net e/bn^Kife : Bt it tnaBtd^
" I f.\m and after tbe ij^b 0/ j^unt 1 74 1 , it /Iba/I bt
ifK rt.itj Mrmitr ef tbt Jatd FJlrv:Jbip «r Ruffia-
t^'lajhit tf mU tibtri. It imfprt into ibu Kiwgdtm,
SJtifjftKg, na^rigatfd aenrding ft LatKt fram
ting M ibe Czar, Rafi'-Siii, er aiy otbtr Goedt
and Mamfuiimrt ef Prrfa ; prsvidid fmt'i
M. if tbt GrtfiKib w ftodmc ef Pttfa, br pur-
j If S^ftr Huiib WxlUn and ofbtr Manufaihriet, er
'*td fram Great' Britotm It RtiJ/ta^ and Jram thentt
[*• ftrfia (add and Sih/tr in C«int and BnUhn tx^
'^ Wi/i ibe Prvdace ti^jiv fnm tie Sa/rt ef fv.k
"*'. \^i. txftrttd ti Raffia, and tanird into F<tfia
' ' and aat ntbtw^wift, mpaa fa^ng «r fKunr^ tbt
P^jttblt fcr tbe funte. atisr^mg la fuib fft,lii and
'^< ai an by t,aiu f»*ftnbt4 and prafiffd 4it tbt
■ V^ Gandi tf tbt Growth and MmnufnHttt tf Per*
,1^''^ 'nia ibu Kii^dam fram any Part tn tbt Lmtnt-
j^t*" f*€Tj.,- pit af tbt Tto-if, «r Levant Company.
t- ^ '' aftJfd. t^i. Tbat no Si/*, ar tthtr Prcdnt* »r Ma-
/ V /'">», fitalibe imferttd inta Grral Bnlain, thia*
' ^ "^arif^ of (kit AS. mUfi tbt Jmferttr lobe an Oatb,
ar
tor thxt ot the Crown, is univcMally known ity ever)
oftbeN&Ty.and every Commander of a Ti?dnig-Ve
* A Law therrfbre. Sir, to rcflratn them m rime
Siom foch exorbitant Demands, to deprive them
Profpt£l> which have often no other Effect but to loll
IdicDefs, white they flculk about in ExpeOatioo ol
cr maki /ifirmatim htfw-t the Cel/t39r, is'c. at tkt Ptri
fvtatiem, that to tht btfi nf bis » ittif KuruiU^t ani
the Si/i and other tht Pr^Jutt or A'amifaiiurtt of Pr
taintd in bit »r their Enlritt, •wasornvere rtallt fan
Barter •with Woollen, i^c. CaaJs exported /rem Grtat
to Rtiffia^ and from tbtmt can ieJ iata Ptrfia ( not bii^
Silvtr in Coin, tr BrllinJ or ixitb the Pttdute ar^
Salt! of tht faid Goodt, and not otbtr-wift. Jad im dt
takini fitth Oath or Agtrmatign, bttnga Quaker, mil ^i
tfc. pall be liable to be feixtd and JotfrUtJ, at if t
bad been imported comtrary /» tit /aid A3 rf fbt
Cbarlet //.
Provided ahvajs, and be it enaQed, i^c. That mttbh^
A3 fiali extend to tht permitting, ufing, er iiearing
Kingdom, any turongbt Silh or other Mamv/^einri $J
men/ieied in tU AJ3 llib r/ tt^iUiam III. •wbirb mt
for/ed by virtue tbtrerf thro' Kn/jin ; but the /aid ji
Cleu/t thereof, ije. for re-exporting the fame, tt he
Parte, i^c.
And be it furtbtx tnaStd, Ift That if awf i^M/i
fiallar/e, ivbefber any if tke GwJs to be imparted, i
cf the AB, be of the Grtnutb or MannfaHare^ Peri
{26s)
^Uxi lo btftJfr th«in from dM«!virg themferves^ em- AfinAt4,G«i.
r*fiin{ lh(-MeTclMiiit.iin.l ncglttling (he general loiercil ''■ I74'J-
licir Country is undoubtedly jull. Ii 11 jull.Sir, bccaufet
ftnl 10 ciie Public, t( ii ccccH'iry to prevent Uie gmccll
mny thai cut Jail u poo a Pecple ; to prrfcrvK at from re-
K| Tjtwi Irom the mult impbnbleof our F.nemicsiand
jidl ben ulc, with reiped to parricul-nr Men, it hns 00
iSeacy but to fupprei'i Idlcocfi, Fraod, and Exionioo.*
f . H. Fox.
S I t.
I tuvt no Objeflinn to any Part of this Claurc, ejrcept Mr ILFox.
Okj propoied for ttie CommenceDent; to m.ik« a Law
A tuy pertiic)ou» ?ti&ict, to which thc/e are itiong
HftittfWff. 4<id (0 give tDCife ivliole Itiiercll max incito
10 It, 'ri.Tic tartti^ their Si^ljcmci, beforr the Law fnalt
to operate, iccmi not very corfiltcnt with their Wifdon
U H Mt denied, Sir. thx the Merchanu are betrayed, bj
Rlffud to private IntcreQ which prevails too frrqacmiy
■ Kble; Viewi, to (>ribe away from the Servhceoi the
wn, t>r Urge kewardt, (hole Sailor* whofe AllilUnce ia
(o nccdUrj' lu the Public j and thetrfore it ■> noi lu be
pBfd tbat tiicy will not employ iheir uimoll Diligence
prove th« Interval which the Bill ailowi in nwUtiug
itn6i for the enfuing Year, and that the Sailors will nut
tIt og3g« themfelves betgtc this Law flail pttcliule
t Ptofpcdi of Advanvge.
Ai ibetcfore 10 mnke no Law, and tointke a Law that
•M be obfcrved, n in CoRre^ucncc inc liiitie, arxl u the
* allott'd by the Oaufr, ai ii now Itandt, in.iy make the
le Provibon iBcffirtniial. it ti my Opinion that eiiber it
u to begin to operate to-morrow, or Chat wt ought la
the whole AtTiir in in prdeot Su(c.'
f Rdbut Walpole.
S I *,
NotAing liM* greater Appearance of InjofHee, than tOj;, Robert
ilh Men by v>i:m of Lawk with which they wetr itot ac Wal^v.
attd ; the law iherefiore it alwajis fuppofrd lobc known
iKife who have oScnded ii : bccaufe jt is the l>u!y of
J Mao to know it, and cenaiitly it ought to be the Care
eLegiil""", 'hat thole whom the Ijiw will -.ffrrt, may
a P^ibility of knowing it. and that thole ra^y not be
bed tor Failing in their Duty, whom aothtng but inr'
Ir JffcoraKc baibtirayed laca Ofi'ence.
I VI!. Mm ' Btti
( 266 )
ftnrior^<:(o. • But if r>ir Operation of ihii Lsn Hioold cwaiBMMte-
"•"'«"'• morrow, wlist Nunibtr* may brctic tt, ukd laffiv If df
C/^'V^W Breach of it ■ftvolunurily, Jbd withoac OcOgn i mi ka
Ihill wc vindicnie ouiielvrE from b^ivtog beu
Utc Crime which we ceofdre and puDiOi?'
Mr. H. Fox.
S t K,
Mr. H. Fox. ' ' 'h^" "^^ 1"^' '" DrrcDce ofay Motioo mhu, U ,
rally Itnown and hat been frequently incalond lb I
upon this Bill, chat pnraie Conridcntioni (Misht
give Way to the Necrffitki of the PoblK; for t
Ikieot lo obferrr, that there ti k DHtinfHon ca be
iwcen PaDiftunent mod Rellniots, end thatwc neve
too early in the Prevention of pcrniciou Fndioet.
nay fometimesdehy to puniOubctn.
■ The Law will be known to^momiw to fitr ikcgmB^
Number ot'thofc who may be tempted to dcffiki it»
there be others that break it ignotjucly, how will tktf ,
themrdvct injured by being only obliged to pay Uk
they promiled, which it all that 1 fhoold profiofe '
longer V/anung. The Debate upon tbi» partKuler i
at length reduced to a Quellion, Whether a Law fcr|
Parpotc i£ jufl and expedient r If a Law be amAtft
neaflUry that ii fHould be executed, and ttou bti
only by commencing lo momw.'
Lord Baltimore.
S 1 R,
tori > It appears to me of so great JmpamBCV hew
Baluuwre operation of the Law commcrcri, or bow loagit it •
bccaufe I fiec no Reafon for imasiiuBg cbK it vtUii
Time produce the Efieflipropofed oy it.
• It hat been the Amidcmcni, !iit, of the ymieft
ay Life, to conterfcwuh Men whorr ir-l-iriotii oe
plo}-mcoM have made them well acv_ . ih
Aifairt, and amidA iDOumerablc other :^<.[]rmci fvr thej
BOtion of Trade, have heard time hr the Regotanvl
Wages in trading Shipj.SchcBei at tlic ErS Aff
bUraad Jikely to fiioceed, but upon a nearer
dcatly entangled with iofupportab.c D.Scshiri,
to be exccotcd wUbou: Danger efiojunng the Qc
ibi NalitUi.
* The OaiUir.Sir. now before ui contain! In ay '
one of ihofe viiionary l'ro-«Hiant, which ha»ci'cr fa
they may appear, will be ratily decaicd. and will
other ElTctl tJUaA to pronote Lunningand Fraad^aAd col
(267)
AQ^ ofC(A\\i(ioa wiih which thpy wogU other- Arno 14, Gc
h*vc been ic^uaiotcd.* II j-40.
. LockMod. ^^^'
* I Agree with the Honocnble Gemieman by whom this j^^, Loct-
iMbluibetn offi;r'<J, ihtt the End for which it is propo^'J. wooil,
wonhy the clofcfl Aitcntion of the IcgjIUuve Po*<r, aod
ai Ibe En):, of which the Prcvcoiioo tg Dowcndeavour'ii^*
■]r f> fame Mcnfure 001 Ool/ obllrud ourTrs^r, but en-
«gcr Our Councry ; >nd IhslI therefore very rcsdily coRCur
M* I-.-., for [i„j purpofe, ihatfli^ll not appear either
!^ ujI.
• WBetrifr (nbCiufr will be fuflicient to reflrain all elu-
vCaotn^i, and whether «II cbe little Artl=ices of iaicrett
Knily obrtttet], I am y« unablr ro drterminc i but
\ aion gpon ifac Multiplicity of Relations to be con-
Lei oi. an J »iic Varictj' of Circumlhreet to be »dju(lcd,ia
^rori&oa of thJi kind, I am inclfii'd to thir.k that 11 i- not'
fBtfocft of a Iranfienl Encjuiry, or of a fingTe L'UliIc,
ICtal k willdcmarjda frpame Law.and engsge the Deli.
RtioaaBd Regard of tfail whole ASkmhly.'
obn Baraird.
I a,
NownthfiandinE the Tmpailence anJ Refcntment with Sir j..hn
foioc Men Icc their MiHake> and Ignorance deteQcd, ft*"itnl.
lirtthftandiDg the Reverence which Nrgligcncc and Halle
■'"tobrmtitlrd to from this Aftmbly, 1 mill declare once
vnthoul the Apprehciifion of being conlu^d. ib.it this
LI drawn up without Conlideraiion, and is defended
bring andcrflood; ihii after all rbc Amcodmenti
■fcave been admined, and aU the Addiiiora propoi'd, ii
toppretliveand ineffcftual.a Chaos of Ablurditiei, and
iBOMni of rgaorancc.*
Ut iUbm W.lpo)e.
Sia.
The prefem Butlnets of ihi» AQVmbl^ ii to examine the Sir _R"*<Tt
tok btfotr 115 i but lo deviate from to necejl-ify an En
tf iato loud Exclamation) againll the whole Bill, is in
mn& thcCoarre of the Debate, to ^rplraour Aitcmion,
I utcrropc the pAilt^inent m t'i Deliberation opo*^ <^ef.
lu, to the Deter iniRiition of which the Security of the J'ub-
11 Dtaslr cooccro'd.
The War, Sir, in whtcb we arc now eogageJ* ind, I
f add; mpgcd by the general Rcqucll of the whole Na-
WaJivIt,
M n a
(ion,
IJ*«»
( 268 )
14. Geo tion, cin be profecuted only by the AffiOmct ofOm^ m«,
Fom whom it is not npcflcd th»t tbcj w>it lacribic ikcir
inimcdiite Advanuge to the Sccufity of their tooniry.
Public Spirit, where it is 10 be found, 11 the R«iiU.af |lt> ^
fltitrao, nda'd by Siudy and culiid by Educstioa. tail
not to be hoped for among tbda whotn \ow t'oitun'
coodrmncd to perpetual Drudgery. It uiuU be itici»i
^ccclT^ry to fupp'y the Defcfl of I-'Jiication, ind to
by falatary Coercions iho£c Lffe^ wliich u it in riu
pefilrom o:her Catifcs.
* That the Service of the Siilori will bi (rt up 10 &»^t I
Ai:flrun, and ihfti the Mcicbaaii will bid agatnit ibc Govi
ment is iiiconlrAib!e ; nor is there any DouU thit tt
be able to rJKr the h:ghcit Price, broule iKcy will (■!
10 repay ihetnfelve.< by railing (he \'i1ue of ibeir
Tbiu. wiibout fotne Reilr;iint upon the MtrchJititt. o<
mict .who are sot ilrbarrrd by their (ortu o( Govemxtif I
wy Method which Po'icycan invent, or abiblutvPawrr
in ExecutioD, will pre>ud< all our IXigna, uid kl «c
fame a. N.it:DO fupcrior \o itttaftivti.*
Sir John BaroArd.
Si a.
* I think myfeir obliged, by mv DutjF to mf Cmuuy.i
by my {Jr^tiiodc to tho-c by wh»l< hidulliy wc »kz ■
>nJ by ifch<ilc Courage we aredefci'ded, to malu: li
Dcclarvtion, no; agninfl p^n^cu^'ir C'aufci, im
CircuiD'bDCci, buc ag.iinll the wbok fiiU ; i>
o['pitjlive. alriurt] 2nd T'dkulouit* Etijl mhatri.} ;
oui aniidiililfi thr [{'jneH.io puzalcihc Witcaoc
to [hr Cruel ; 1 Bill, which CAnnoi be irjd withodi A^osji
Dtcoi, cor piHVd wiiiioui the \iuUtion of our C<
and an gt^\izi Dif'rpanl of Policy and Humanity.
* .All tnn'e Atierti m wi<i need to be provol oaljr bf
barf Petuiiil of chithiKf.l Bill, by wnicb ibc nctcft,:
nini'. tv< iihlcfs Kcpnlc, exalted to a petty Office b^ fi
a Wri-cch only (upciiur Co i.tra in Foit-^QC, is caabtcd tal
hit Atq^ort-y by lyraoitirg over (bole who erer^ Ugsri
ferve the pub'ic AcIcriOwIedgciMftti cf the Coaiinun-.ty,
totruJe upon V.ie Relreati of brave Men.fitigucd kc4 cabi
rd by hnselt Indj^rv. todrsg tbem out with all tkc Wl
tuod* of erovFling Aorhority. xnd chain tLem to tbc '~
widKwtA Moment't Ucfpite, 01 perhapi oblige tfaea (0|
cltife, wtih th« Gaini of a dangcroui Voyage, or ib« ~
Ctr uf an Enemy )itc!y corqiicr'd, t Qiorl IntCiVAJ 10 tcSdi
Ibeir A&iri, or bid their Children farcwcU.
John
( 269 )
larGcBltcmart in thii Houre, let thofe. Sir, who Anno u.CeA
St ti*ic, pTojcfiiiig Lawi of Oppreflioo and coofcifirig H-JLL'
(•tir ownSUves l\ji;h lic-cntioiu Autharity, paufe a fe* \.-/TrN>-/
tt>, md imagine themfelTej rxpoled toihc lane l-fard-
[» I'ower fopcrior 10 Uieir own ; let tbem conceive
lorn from the I'endernefi'amJ LiiteRet of their
mid night liTupiionf, drag^'d in Triumph thro*
by ft deipicablc OScer, and placed under the
ofthob by whom they hive pcrnapi been itrndf
Wbr (houtd we imagine tltat the Race uf Men
I liiefe Onelties an preparing, have Icfs Si:nftuilit)r
|o«riclve»f Why (hoald we believe thit they wiit fuffer
CatBpUiai. atkd be iojur'd without Kefcntment t
wt conceive thit they will not at once deliver
and panilh their OpprefTori, by derening that
•.thity are confider'd at Feiong.and laying hold
Rewirdi and PiivUrgea wkicJi so other Govcra-
:witt deny them t
ii inideed ihennly Ten<Jency, whntevrr m»y have
tkc IntCBtioo. of the Bill before ai ; fur I know not
^^moft rc&a^d Sagacity can difcovtr any ether Me*
lifcoaraging Navigation than thofie which axe dr^wQ
'iolbetjill before t». VVc firrt give our Conliab!n
to hunt (he S^ilort like Thicvct. and drive them
Parfuit out of the Nation : but, tell any Man
^icndAiip, good Fortune, or the Power of Money,
•f ftiying behind, wc have, with equal Wifdom.
!){■ loPovcriy and Mifcry ; and, leilthe natural
Fhi» Profeflum (hou^l incite ktm to aflill hit Countrjr
rar, have cootrivcd a Method of precluding him
Adrannge th>t might have the Weakaefi to hope
iFortitade and Uttigence. What more can be dour.
It once prohibit to Seamen the UIc of the com-
nti, or doom them to a general Profcriplion.
}aA. Sir, that Advantage fhould be proporiion'J to
Ird by which it ti to be obuined. and ibercfore a
bu aa faooeft Claim to an Advaoce of Wagei in Time
1 h is oeceflary to excite F.xpeAicioB, and 10 fire
by the ProfpeA of gicat AcquifitioDi : andbythii
it ti that fuch NumUen arc diily allured to naval
and thatOkif Prtvaiceri arc filled with Advcntureri.
Wagci wh'cb War malcei neccfTiry, arc marc
tftctacim 10 thofe whom Impatience of Poveay
to change their Stitc of LiU, than the fecure
iul Contmercei for the Danger ii ovetlook'd
intent apoa the Profit.
* War
M)t Vofcttjr at Mict, uul face an lUnoy
f))^ tif Rkoit pence J
* Lei auy Mmi rrcoIMl the Idoj t\Mi arrSi-
spofi iiCAring o^ a btll fW eiKCunciii^
kirst aud exlminc vlie:fac( Itc (imI aii> L.
pciiients like tJivl« ? I luppolV, it •»» nrvi
ihac Men lAcre to be cncotit^igcd by fubjoAti
bar Penalties, or ihAtco nkeawiy:be iitun
Vfii a Mctbod of iKoamMMiiis ii, noi*
l'<op'e.
* Sut it it rnx of tcry great Inipomnce (•
HpOQ tiie Inipioprictyof thh GauJ>, tbhicb ll
(ib><>ty of puitiDj lA Exocution. 'I'bM ilte
try every Method ot eluding a Law (b prajnii
iMcreft, may be cafijy urugiocd ; and « Mil
Truic^I of Kvarioni will iiko*vr ikat ibt*
eluded by a tbouUnd Artlficei. 1/ the kler
llnitted from allowiog Meti their Waget
Stim, iIkj- will iiuke Contfa£li for ib« V4
(he Time may rcry nfily bt compiled t
KcwBrd for Ei|>eiliiion crd Fidality; the*
Sum by w^y cf Advanccj they may •Uow ,
cif the rrcnif, or nvny aXtr ^l0Bey br a
tax the Piiceof acfCoJBiuodky. of wbtdi
she U£b Biay vary tbcii Piofartionj, it t^i
Cegrve of Igfiorancc. No Min un dctrri
ut Corp, unlcfi be cm legulate the HarvcA,
Nuutbtr of ibc Pet^le for ever tit a Stanil.
* Du )cl ui fuppofc ibtfc Meihodi a* cf
-MUtO-
( 2?! )
n AAiOfli, awi of whom Candour may p«rhip« Anrvorj, t^co
itiat ttacf Ate odI/ duel becaufe th«y a»: ftupid. ■'- 1740-
; ezzk into n Precedent, the moll unjull and rigo>
n ef oar PrciifccirDr!, of which ttwy tlicmlejvct d«-
ictr Rfipcfltoecr, or canfe&d the [nefficacy, by oever
in; let ui ratbcr coiicavour to gmti the Sjjlors by
■■4 Hoderatioti. »nil recoscile ihem (o the Servtce
'jvn by ml tincouragetneni ; for it is rmtionsl {«
itec in Praportioo u Men arc difguAcd b/ lojunes,
• «-H br won by KicvJocf*.
.uf-c ttoncExpedttnt, Sir, which lUfervei to beirird,
l«ti tr^i which at Ictfl more Sucoef» may he bopetj than
_iiB Civcily, Hunger, lad Periecntton The Stiips that
to be filial QUI Air Service, are thofe of tbc 6rft
ic, ivhicb ic is nfual 10 bring back into ibc Pom in
Let ui therefore promife 10 all Sumen that fluU
ly engage in them, b«tid« ihe Reward already pro-
Oilichirge from the Serrice ac the Bfw) of fix or
iHBte. By thu they witi be releafcd froni iheir
of SUrery, and be urtain, ni ihey are when
1 Service of tbe MerchMUi of a Refpice from their
Tbe Trade nf the Nation will be only ineer-
Ifcr a Time, and may be carried on io tbc Winter
I, awl br^e Sams will he bved by difinilEAg theSaa.
I they canaot be employed.
* By addimg 4hb to the other Methods of Encottrogeioent,
og sfidc ali rigorooi and oppreiTive !>chem«s, ihe
cafily be BHintd, our CouBtry pr-H«Oed, our
rC'eliabli&Md. nod asr Eicmiet robdacdi bat to
(br Btl! » it now UxDili, is to determine that Trade
,EBdtlut no SitipfliaU^outof the River.*
Mr. Pit.
SlH.
* li b common Cir tliofe to hive ibefrciteA Regard *o^ ^'
o«Mn toirfcll who diTcover the feall fur that of othef*.
tiierefOTe, defpeir q( rci;alling the Advorate* •{
(nm tlM ProfecutioDof their fivoufitt Meaturci by
iiaof gfnter EAcacy (beu Ihole which ve finadett
iftiid Jnftice.
thing. Sir. ii moteerldrnC. than that fome Dejjree of
jfl If ftbiiilefe^y itccefr'»y tn Men *ho h»*e »nf
' iritiot o( X GiTvrnmun; liUe ftorai
the Fidelity of tbrir Adhrrtnt* by
Ke of VVtiJom, or Of Vittuei their F.oemie*
be awed by their Honelly, or trrnfird by tl.cir
'^Sn^Dg. Meieattkii Bribery mil sever ptti HfalBcienc
Majority
ikvagt Nationi, Tucb u Slaver}) hu not yet bof
ranajr invFBtetl, fucb as csBoot be heinl wuhoitt It
nor thoaghi of withoat Horror.
• < It ii, Sir, perhaps, not unfortunite, ihlit onr
prdieni hxibeeo tiied rather ndKuloiu ttua flui
thu ihefe Tyrantt of the AdminiilndoB. who u
fclveiwith opprefiing their Fellow Sobjefti* vbai
RelufUncc one Hu^ihip to uiotber, lovadc ibt
tbofe whom they have already ovcrbonM wkk '■
plunder and (hen Jmpriloo, who oke all OpMf
heighwnirg the poblk DilUeflc*, and BUkt la*
War the Intlrumenli of itew OppreiTioni, arc loo
be fomitdable, and owe cheir Pniver not to ibcir A
10 ca(ual Profperity, or to the Infloenccc^Moaci
' The other Claufcs of thii Bill, complioued i(
Cruelty and Fotty, have beea treated wkb bccoi
lUilion ; but [hit nay be coaCdercd with tefi Arda
fentment. and fewer Emotions of Zeal, becaufr. ttl
hapi eqoally ititquiioui, U will do oo Ham » Ibri
on never be executed can never be felt>
' Thai It will canfune the ManafiiAon of
SmU the Books of Stataces. i% all the Good or Hi
be hoped or fcar'd from a Law like thui A I
&XC9 what ii ia ks own Nature monble, whkb
Rules to the Scafom and Lisiiti to the Wiad.
* I an too well acquainted. Sir» wuh the Di
ill two chief Supporters, to mcfltioa the CoiH
which this Law will be ucated by Poikrity i Su
already (hewn abundaotiy their D'tU^ffod o(
GcMiaiKWi i bm 1 will icotad thctta ihu^fh
( 273 )
itnteraA in View, will be »fraid rf aJhering to thofe Anno ij.Cec
Jen, bowever old and praAifed in Expedient*, hoivcvcr -I- '74u.
■Mheo'il by Corrcprion, or elated with Power, who have 0/'"\"N-^
rKtfin to hope f^i Succcft from tither their Viriuc or
Mr. Bitlinrft.
Si>.
Tfce Qaufe now order our Corfi'crstion is fo ircor- ^'r Eathurft.
if dnwn up, that it is iiiipoflib:c: lo rvn-J it in the
tcnribry Minner, without difcoverirg the Ncccflity of
Amlndirents i no malicious Subciicies or anf'ul
lioBi ire required in raiting Objefliuns to this P.trt of
iBin i ihey croud upon us without being fought, and inllead
f^Rcifing our Sagacity, wear/ our Attention.
' Tkc Srn Error, or rather one Fart cf a general and com-
1 Error, it the Computation of Time not by Days but
Monthi, which, as they sre not equni one to
r, joMj eiobarrafs the Account between the Sailors and
: employ them. In all ContraAs of a (hort Dun-
ibe Time is to be reckoned by Weeks and Days, by
SBd regular Periods, which has been fo coniuntly
il^iAice of the Sea-faring-Men, that perhaps many of
I AtBOt know the Meaning of aKaIend.4r Month : This
*u B NegIcA ofno great Importance, becaufc no Man
; deprived by it of more than the Wages due for ths
of a few Days, but the other Part of this C^pufe ii
' Jcrioufly to be confidet'J, as it thrratsns the Siilors
great Injuriri. For it is to be enabled, [hat :ul Cor-
loude for more Wages i\un are here allowed lluU be
■Dt void.
' Jl cannot be denied to be pcflible, and in my Opinion it
^'iterj likely, that many Conrritfls wil U* tr.ar^c iMchoutthc
Kiewlcdge of this Ltw, and confeq<jentIy M'itl Jut ;:ry Di--
fai of-vioUting it; but Ignorance, incvirablc hi;nor;tnc(-,
M* it iia valid Excufe torcvery other M.-.n. is iim Pica lor
Aenhappjr Sailor; hemuli fulFer, tho' i:ini riTt, t:'c Pi Tinlty
rflCrime; muft undergo Dangi-r, Hnriiiliip:, rr! I...b..jr,
ittoDta Recompence, anditc the End o.^a i.^'rt.-'. .n \'uy.i(;c,
.Ifcr fcavisg enriched hii Country by his !i.,li.i.:rv. jv'Ljiri
BlHCIo a nectllitaus Family wiiliout bctr.ij ublc fj relieve
• It is fcarccly necefTary, Sir, to rr-if" ar.y mo'i: Obj,;t!on3
• a CHaufe in which nothing is right; b.ic lo Hew li<>w iii
laperfeQioDt multiply uptMi the ilightcll CuMi.;tr-i:ion. L
tftt this Opportunity to obfcrve thiit thi-re h iin ''rovifion
ude for rrguUciog the Voy.igf« nerfcimcJ iii kL 'i ji.icthan
Vot YII. iN n a.
( 274 )
Annoi4,Geo a Month, To that the grcateft Part of the Abares, which have
II. 1740 been rcprelented as the Occafion of this Clanfe, are yet wiih-
^»/YXfc^ out Remedy, and only thofe Sailors who venture far, and are
cxpofed to the greatcll Diingers, are rcttraia'd from receiving
an adequate Reward.
< Thus much. Sir, I have faid upon theSuppolidon, that
a Regulation of the Sailors Wages is either neceil^ry or
juft ; aSuppofition of which I am very far from discovering
the Truth. That it is juft to opprcfi the molt ufcful of our
Fcllow-Subjeds, to load thofe Men with peculiar Hardfhipa
to whom we owe the Plenty that we enjoy, the Power that
yet remains in the Nation, and which neither the Folly nor
the Cowardice of Minillers have yet been able to dellroy,
and the Security in which we now fit and hold our Confulu-
tions ; that it is jull to lelTen our Payments at a Time when
we increafe the Labour of thofe who are hired, and toex-
pofe Men to Danger without Recompence, will noteaHly be
proved even by thofe who are mod accuftomed to Paradozei,
' and are ready to undertake the Proof of any PoHtion which
it is their Interell to find true.
• Nor is it much more eafy to ihew the Necefiity of thii
Expedient in our prefenl State, in which it appears from
the Titleofcbe Bill, that our chief Endeavour fliould be ibc
Increafe and Encouragement of Sailon, and.l fuppofe, it hai
not often been difcover'd, that by taking away the Profits of
a ProlelTton, greater Numbers have been allured to it.
< The high Wages, Sir, paid by Merchants are the chief
Incitements that prevail upon the Ambitious, the Neceffitoos,
or the Avaritious, to forfake the Eafe and Security of the
Land, to leave eal'y Trades and healthful Employments, ud
expofe themfetves to an Element where they are not certain
cfan Hour's Safety. The Service of the Merchants is the Niir.
fery in which Seamen are trained up for hii Majelly's NaTiei,
and from thence we muft, in Time of Danger, expeCl tbolil
Forces by which alone we can be proteAed.
* If, therefore, it is neceftary to encourage Sailors, it ii
neceffary to rcjrdt all Meafures that may terrify^ or difgoft
them ; and, as their Numbers mufl depend upon our Trade,
let us not emitarrafs the Merchants with any other Difficulties
than thofe which are in(eparab!e from War, and which very
little Care ha:i been hitherto uken to alleviate.*
Mr. M.iy.
Sj R.
Mr H.y ' Ihe Objeftions which have been urged with to much
Aiwour, and dilplay'd with fuch Power of Eloquence, are
not, in my Opinion, formid<ible esough to dilcourage us
frotn
I (^75)
W, in piiofanitipg oar Meafores ; fome of tbem may be pei- Anno 14. Ge
F' kp rewlily aniwcred, and the reft eafily removed. , ''- '7^-
* TiwCompatittoo of Time, as itDow (lands, is atlow'd l/'V^
Mt to jmdMeanjr formidable Evil, and therefore did not
iffHR^ rhetorical a Cenfure; thelnconveniency ofKaten-
dvUonthi may eafily be removed by a little Cindour in the
tmtn&ing Fardes, or that the Objedion may not be re-
amed to the iDtemiptioD of the Debate, Weeks or Bays
mtf 1m fabftitntei], isd the ufual reckoning of the Sailors be
Ain oouiDQed.
That fone CoatraCli may be annotled, and Inconveni.
cades or Delays of Payment arife, is too evident to be
qoeftioBcd 1 but id that Cafe the Sailor may have his Re-
medy provided, and be enabled to obtain, by an aCy Pro-
Btfa» what he (ball be judg'd to have deferved ; for it muft
be ^ew'd rea'fonable, that every Man who labours in honeft
and ofefil Employments, (hould receive the Reward of his
DSiffencc and Fidelity.
• Tbos, Sir, may the Claufe, however loudly cenfured
Uai nolently oppofed, be made ufeful and equitable, and
ttepoblk Service advanced without Injury to Individuali.'
Sir Robert Walpole.
Si a,
■ Every Law which extends its Influence to great Num- Sir Robert
ben. in varioDi Relations and Circumftances, muft produce ^'^1'°''-
Ambc Con(iequencei that were never forefeen or intended, and
ii to beceofared or applauded as the general Advantages or
JncoBTeniencies are found to preponderate. Of this kind is-
lAte Law before us,' a Law enforced by the Necellity of our
Al&irs, and drawn up with no other Intention than lofecure
the pablic Happinefs, and produce that Succefs which every
Msn'i Intcreft muft prompt him todefire.
• Iff in the Execution of this Law, Sir, fome Inconve-
BicBciei Diould arife, they are to be remedied as faft as they
are difcovercd, or if not capable of a Remedy, to be pa-
ticatly borne in Confideration of the general Advanuge.
' That fome temporary Difturbances may be produced is
fioc improbable; the Difcontent of the Sailors may for a
fliort Time rife high, and our Trade be fufpended by tbcir
CXtftinacy ; but O^inacv, however determined, muft yield to
Hanger, and when no higher Wages can be obtained, they
will chearfilly accept of thofe which are here allowed them.
Short Voyages indeed are not comprehended in the Claufe,
and therefore the Sailors will engage in them upon their
owB Terms ; tnit this Objeflion can be of no weight with
Nn 2 thofe
( 276 )
.inoii,Oee thofe that oppofc the Claule, beaafe, if it is unjuft to linit
U. 74'>- [he VVages of the Sailors, it ii joft 10 leave ihoi'e Voyigcl
/"V^^ without RetlriAion ; and thofe that think the Elpid-nt
iiere propofcd equitiible and rationil, may perhaps be wiW ^
ling to tnuke fotne ConcclEoDS t« thofe who arc of a diffe-
rent Opinion.
• That the Bill will not remove every Obftacle to Soc-
c^!j nor add Weight to one Part of the Balance wiihoDt
making the other lighter ; that it will not fuppty the Mary
without incommoding the Merchants in fome degree ; thai
it may be fometimei evaded by Cunning, and (ometinKt
abuled by Malice ; and that at laft it will be lcf» cflicacioni
th:iti is delircd, may perhaps be proved; but it has not yet
been proved that any other Mcafures aic nioie cligibiC, or
that wc Ti (' not to promote the public Service ns &r a» we
arti able, i^ioiigh our Endeavoura may not produce E0ecLi
equal to our Wilhes.'
Sir John Barnard.
Sir,
r John * ' know not by what Fatality it is that nothing can be
iri.aid. urged in Defence of the Claulic before us which dbei not
tend to difcover its Weaknefs and Inefficacy. Tht uarmcft
pjtroiH of this Expedient arc impelled by the tnere Fcrcc
of Conviclion to fuch Conccflions as invalidate all their Ar
guments, and leave their Opponents lo Ncccfnty cf re-
plying.
* If Ihort Voyages are not coT>prehended in thi« Prcvifioa
what are we now controverting f what but the KxpcJiercc
of a Law that will never be executed f 1'heSai:ors. Lowever
they are contemned by thofe who think them only uorthr
to be treated like Healb of UurtiiCn, are not yet fo liurld
but tliac they c.in nfi.y find out, thut to fer\'e a Ki>r;r.igh: fur
greater U'nges is more Ciigible iLnn to toil a Month for :cf: ;
and as the numerous Equipments that have Lecn lately made
^.ave not left many- more Sailers in the Sen ice tit iht \>r-
• chiints tl-an may be tmplcy'd in the Coafling Tradv, itvit
who tr::n:c to remoter Parts muLt fliut up their Bcol:'. ai i
wait tiii liie Expiration cf ihia Acl for an Oppottusily cf
icr.eui[ (> their Commerce.
* To rcg-jlatc the VVages for one \'oyag^, and lo leave
Bnoihcr without Limiutiuri, in time of Scarcity of Strameo, it
ablclu'.ely lo prohibit that Tradt; which is forcflrAined, attd
ii doubt^efs a more effcfiual hnibdrgo than has been ycc ia-
vcn;td.
• Let nny Man but fuppofe tli.it the Eall-India Compani
were obliged to give only half the V^'age* that othei Tradcra
allow.
( 277 )
knr, ftwl conlicter how that part of our Commerce could Anno 14, Geo.
E carried on i would not their Goodi rot in their Ware- 'I- ■740-
Dsfei, and their Ships lie for ever io the Harbour f Would l./'^V^^
K iW Sailori refufe to contrafl with them ? or defert thetn
fersConirafl, upon the firfl Prcfpeft of more advantage-
Hi Enploynieiit ?
•* Bttit ii Dot requifite to multiply Arguments in 1 Q^ier-
■■wkkh may not only be decided without long Examina-
iia, bac in which we may determine our Condufions by
• Espcrieace of our Anceftors. Scarcely any right or
■DBg MnlurM are without a Precedent, and often di£.
■rar what the moft enlightned Reafon f^ik-d to forcfce.
* Let OS ihereftire improve the Errors of our Anceltors to
W OWD Advantage, and whiltl wc ncg!e£l to ifnitace th«ii-
imws, let u»at katt forbear to repeat their FoHiei.'
Mr. Aldermaa Perry.
Si».
4 Thae is one Obje£lion more which my Acquainsaticc
bh filKigo Tndc imprelTu too tirongly upon m^- Mind to Mr. Pcrr:.
mc Bo conceal it.
It ia well known that the Condition of a Seaman fub-
htn to (he Neceffity of fpending a great pin of his Life
. DiAascc fi-om his native Country, in Places where he
Btitlwr hear of our Duligns,nar he inllruded in our Laws,
! thcfcfere it ii evident that no Lnw ought to »Sie&. him
certain Period of I'ime, in which he may reafo-
bc fappofed to have been informed of it. For every
oaght to hdve it iti bit Power to avoid Punifhment, and
~er oaly for Negligence and Obilinacy. '^
Ic ii ijuitt unoeciiEiry, Sir, to cbfervetothis A0embly,
^ihcn: artnoij^ uat all times, great Numbers ofS-iilors
r part of tbe World, and that they at kail equally
dhr Regard with thofe who are under the more im-
InfliKLce of (he Government.
Seaman have already ccntraAcd for the Price of
' Laboar, and the Recompence of their Hazirdi. nor
io my Opinion, without manifeA Irjuiticc, diflb!ve
founded upon Equity, and con6rmed by Law.
^Xc Ui Sir, an umlifputed Principle of Government, that
Aoald be punifhed without a Crime ; but is it
liihmcat to deprive a Man of what is due to him by a
SciiMilation, the Condition of which is on his Pan
IJ7 farfilled ?
(achine. Sir, can be imagined more cilamitous than
■lappoiDUncu to which this Law fubje£\i the unhippy
Men
t-
( 278 )
Anno i4,G«o Men who are now promoting tbc iDttreft of their Co
IX ■749- in diftani Placet, amidft Dangeriind Har(I3u|it, ta atkl
y,yy\^ CHmatn and barbarous Nationi, where thejrconfbrti
fclres under tbc Fatigoct of Labour and the Mifer
Sickneft, with the Frofpefi of the Sam whkh tiiey flnl
for the Relief of their Families, and the RcTpia
their Wages will enable them to enjof j bat apoa thi
turn they find their Hopes blafted, *ad their CoatnJ
folved by a Law made in their Ablence.
' No human Being, I think, can coollf and dclib
infliA a Hardlhip like this, and therefore J doabt ■
thofe who have by Inadrerteiicy gitren room fiir thii
lion, will either remove it by an Amendment, or whi
my Opinion, more eligible, njcSt the Claufe ai iocip
ufetefs, and unjnft/
Sir William Yonge.
S I a.
Sir William * "^^^ Debate has been protraOed, not by any Dii
yongc. arifing from the Nature of the (^eUions which bM
the Subjefl of it, but by a NegleA with whkh ataet
Opponcnu of the Billmay Ik juflly chargied, tlw}
of dillinguilbing betweeo Meaforei eligible in An
and MeafuTCs prefierable to Conrequencea which ait
bended from particular Conjnnfiurei i bciwecn Um
only to advance the public Happiocfs, and Expadi
which the Benefit ii merely occafiooal, aod of wfc
fole Intention is to avert fome national Calamity, ui
are to ceafe with the Necefiity that prodoced Ibea.
' Such are the Meafurei, Sir, wWh are bow M
Mealures, which in Days of Eafe. Security, mod PnI
it would be the highetl Degree of WegkneG tof
butpf which I cannot fee the Abfurdity in Tiatcii
ger and Diflref*. Such Laws are the Mcdiciresof I
ufelefs and naufeous in Health, but preferable lo afi
Difeafe, or to a miferabie Death.
* F.ven thofe Mcafures, Sir. which have been ■■
fts liioft grofly abfurd, and reprefentcd as panllel mi
Vifion made in this Claufe, only to ezpofa it to CoMI
Ridicule, may in particular Circnmftancea bo nuB
juft. To fettle the Price of Corn in thcTinsr of ■!
may become the wtfeft State, and Midtitudei ai|^)
of public Milery, by the Benefit of temporarr U
prefcrvtd frcm DeflruAioD. Even thofe MaJh, m
with a profperous Gale, the Ship owes iu UfeMMi
Speed, are often cut down by the Sai!on ai the fi
Storm.
( 479 )
With ttord to the Shipt which are now in didant Flacei^nnoi^^Gco:
icr no jCoQwIedge of this Law can poffibty be con- 11. 1740.
WHftit it cannot be denied that their Crews ought to be fe- L/V^'^^
iipri irom Injury by fome particular Exception ; for tbo' it
||tri4n>C in Compeiitions becween public and private Inte-
pl, which ought to be preferred, yet wc ought to remember
if no onncoefliiry Injsry is to be done to Individuals, even
■bikvc are providing for the Safety of the Nation/
' Ifr. Finkerle^.
'• 81 n.
• • Tho' I cannot be fuppofed to have much Acquaintance ^- P'^^"*
UA anvnl Affairs, and therefore may not perhaps difcover ^^'
LfnD Force of the Arguinenti that have been urged in
Bf of the Claufe now under Confideration, yet I cannoc
1^ Aink myfelf under an indifpenfable Obligation to exa-
Bfac il ai fiu as I am able, and to make ufe of the Know-
wUch I have acquired* however inferior to that of
Tte Argament, Sir. the only real Argument, which has
in CiVour of the Rellraint of Wages now
1, appeanto me by no means conclufive; nor can I
' that the meanclt and molt ignorant Seaman would,
prapdfed to faim, hefitate a \4oment for an Anfwer
l^t me fnppofe. Sir, a Merchant urging it as a L'har^
a Seaman, that he raifes hi» Demand of Wages in
if War, would not the Sailor readily reply, that har<
'Ldionr required larger Payf Would he not alk, why
Igfacnl Praaiceof Mankind is charged as a Crime upon
tmlyi Enquire, fays he, of the Workmen in the
have they not double Wages for double Labour I
not their Lot &fe and eafy in Compariton with mine,
OBCe eiurounter Danger and fupport Fatigue; carry
fu and Commerce at the fame time, to condud the Ship
\0fipaSt the Enemy, and am equally cxpofed to Captivity
~ Supwrcck I
^ Thai this is in reality the State of a Sailor in Time of
, I tlunk. Sir, 100 evident to require Proof i nor do I fee
Reply can be made to the Sailor^s artlefs Expoftulation.
I kaow not why the S.iiiors alone Qiould lerve their
to their DiGdvantage, and be expeAed to encounter
wilhont the Incitement of a Reward.
for will any Part of the Hirdlbips of this Claufe be
by the Expcdteoi fuggefted by an Honourable
fa who fpoke fome time ago of granting, or alloiving.
Sailor, whole ContraAfhall be void, what our Courts of
f flioald adjudgehim todeferve,a ^antum meruit. For,
accord-
( 2S0 )
Anno 14, Geo. according to the general Interpretation <^oarStitn
'3^^ wiil be determined that he has forfeited hit whole Cb
'^-^^"^'"^ illegal Contraft. To inftanre. Sir, the Sututc of I
He that ftipulates for higher Intereft than is illowcd,
ibk to recover his legal Demand, butirrecorerabiy '
the whole.
* Thus, Sir, an unhappy Sailor, who (hall ibb*
tranfgrefa thti Law, tauA lofe all the Profit! of hit V
and have nothing to relieve him after his Fatignea i bi
he has by his Courage repelled the Enemy, and by h
efcaped Storms and Koclcs, mull fuAr yet fercrer Ha
in being fubjcrfl to a Forfeiture where be expeded A]
Comfort, and Reoimpencc.*
Mr. Ryder, (Attorney General.)
Sir,
Mr. Ryder. ' '^^^ Claufe before us jannct, in my Opintoa, ;
any (uch dreadfiil Confequcnces at the learned Gci
appears to imagine: However, to remove all D'Sa
have dr^wn up an Amendment, which I (ball bee I
propofe, I'bat the ContraAsi wbici) may be afleoe
Claulenow Hand;, fiatl b$ tttii onif mt to Jo mmAtf i
ge$ oi pall exceed the Sum to 'wbitb tht Hmift JhmB
reduce the Seaman's Pay ', and as to the ForfeiiaTCf. I
n^ to iie levied lipon the Sailors, but apon the Mci
or trading Companies, who employ them, and wIki i
to pay greater Sums without being involved in Pun
Dillrels.
* With regard. Sir. to the Reafons for introdnct
Claufe, they are, in my Judgment, valid and cqcitabh
have found it .nccelT-ry to lix the Rate of Money at J
and the Rate tf labour in feveral Cafes; and if wc
in this Cafe, what ivill be the Confequence i A feco
bargo on Commerce, and perhaps a total Stop to all 1
Preparation?. Is it reafonable that any Mao ihould
Liibour according to the immediate Neceffitin of lb
emp'oy him ? Or that he Oiould raife bis own For
the public Calamities ? If this has hitherto been a I
it is a Practice contrary to the general Happiocfs of i
and ought to prevail no longer.
* If the Sailor, Sir, is expofed to greater Du
Time of War, is not the Merchant's Trade carried i
wife at greater Hzzard ? Is not the Freight, equally \
Sailors, threarened at once by the Ocean and the I
And is not the Owoet'i Fonune equally impaind.
(he Ship is daflicd upon a Rock, or leized by a Prm
( 28l )
* The Merchants, therefore, have as much Resfon forpiy- Anno 14, Geo.
log Icfs Wages in Time of War, as the Sailor frr demanrfing ^^- '74=-
■o«. and nothing remains but that the Lc£ifl.icive Power L/''V"NJ
dtterjninc a Medium between their diffl-rent in ereAs, with
/sllice, if poOible, ai lealt with Impartiality.*
Mr. Horatio Walpolc.
St I,
■ I was unwilling to interrupt the CoLrTc of" this Dcbite w. H<iraHi>
whi'e it was carried on with Caimnefs and Decency, by Men Waiptle.
who do noi fufTer the Ardour of Oj.'p- frion to cloud iheir Rea-
fin. Or trantport them 10 Jiich Exprcffioni cs the Dignity of
this Aflembly docs not !"'«iit. 1 have hitheno dcfcrr'd to
aDr<*cr the Gentleman wl:u Jccla!i:icJ agiinll the Bill with
fiich Fluency ard Rheioric. :ind (u'-h Vehemence of Gefturr,
who chargrd the Advocarc!. for the Experiierits now prcpo-
ied. with having no Regard i<.i nny IncercU but their own,
wad with making Laws only (o cnnfume Priper, and thrra-
Kneit them with the Dcfeflron ot their A'lhercn:s, and the
Lofi of their Influence, upon this new Diicovery of thcic
Folly, and their Igrorancc.
■ Nor, Sir, do I now anfwer him for any other Purpofe
than to remind him how iittleihe Clamour of Rajjp, and Pe-
lularcy of Inveflivcs, co'.tribute to the Purpofe lor which this
Aficmbljr ia called tog;:hcr ; how little the Dipjovery cf
Trath is promott-d, ^nd che Security cf the Nation tlia.-
bliOied by pompous niillon, and tii'-atrical Emotion.
• Fprmidj.b'cSour:ds, ard f-r'nas Declamations, cot fitJene
Aflertionf, ard lofty Peril's. r:i::y aS\:£i the young and un-
experienced, and perhap' the Gcnclciran may lave contrrfl-
cd his Habits of Oratoiy by cor-verfing more wiih thofe ct
bit own A^f, thsn wi;h fuch as h: vc h:id more Opportunities
of acq'.tii!"i; Knowledge, and more fucctfsful .VKthods cf
Gommi^ncatine^ :h-.'ir Sentiments.
If the He.: cf hi* Temper, Sir, would fuller him to at-
rrrd to thofc whofe Age and long Acqiiiintanci: with Dufinefi
give them an indifputable Right to Deference ard Superio-
rity, he would learn, in Time, to rciion r:,thcr tli-'n declaim,
an-l to prefer Jurtnefs cf Argument, and ::n accurate Know-
ledge of Fafls. toimmding Tpithcts .it:d [picndid Superlatives,
«>hich m:>yditturbthe Imagin.t.oo for a Moment, but leave
DO laflipg Imprcflion on the Mind.
* He will le;rn. Sir, that to accufe and prove are very
different, and that R-"rcache:, unfupported by lividence, af-
f A only the Ch ruiiler of him that nrtcrs them. Excur-
fions of Fancy, and fligb's of Orircy, are indeed par-
dontble in young Men, but id nn other i and it uoutd furely
VtL VII. O 0 contribute
C 282 )
Lnno 1. 1, Geo. contribute more, even to the Purpofe for which fome Gen-
I^JTj^ tlemcn appear to fpeak, that of depreciating the Conduct of
^"^^^^^^^ the Adminiftration, to prove the Inconvcnienciei and In-
juftice of this Bill, than barely to afiert them, with whatever
Magnificence of Language, or Appearance of Zeal, Honelly,
or CompafiioD.'
Mr. Pitt.
S I R,
■-. Pitt. » The atrocious Crime of being a young Man, which iha
Honourable Gentleman has with fuch Spirit and Decency
charged upon me, I (hall neither attempt to palliate, nordcny,
but content myfelf withwilhiDg that I may be one of thole
whofe Follies may ce;ile with their Youth, and not of thai
Number who are ignorant in fpite of Experience.
* Whether Youth can be imputed to any Man as a Re-
proach, I will not. Sir, afTume the Province of determining t
but furely Age may become juftly contemptible, if the Op-
portunities which it brings have palt away without Improve-
ment, and Vice appears to prevail when the Paflions have
. fubfided. The Wretch that, after having feen the Confe-
fjuences ofaThouland Errors, continues Itill to blunder, and
whofe Age has only added Obllinacy to Stupidity, is furely
the Objed of either Abhorrence or Contempt, and deferves
not that his grey Head fhould fecure him from lofults.
' Much more. Sir, is be to be abhorr'd, who, as he hat
advanced in Age, has receded from Virtue, and becomet
more wicked with lefs Temptation; who prolUcuirs himfclf
for Money which he cannot enjoy, and fpends the Remaina
of his Li^ in the Ruin of his Country.
* fiat Youth, Sir, is not my only Crime; [ have becnac-
cufed of acting a theatrical Part — A theatrical Part may ci-
ther imply fome Peculiarities of Gellur^, or a Difllmulation
of my real Sentiments, and an Adoption of the Opioiooiaad
Language of another Man.
' In the firll Senfe, 5ir» the Charge is too trifling to be
confuted, and deferves only to be mentioned, that it may be
defpifed. 1 am at Liberty, like every other Man, to ufe my
own Language; and though [may perhaps have fome Am-
bition to plcafe this Gentlemnn, I fhiitl not lay myfelf under
any Rellraint, nor very follicitoully copy his Didion, or his
Mien, however matured by Age, or modelled by Experience.
< If any Man Ihall, by charging me with theatrical Beha-
viour, imply, that I utter any Sentiments but my own, I flltl^
treat blmaiiaCn'uniiiiator,3nd a Villain; nor (hall any Pro-
tc<^lori iheher ihih from the Treatment which he dcfervef.
I- ihall, on fuch an CXcufloUj without Scruple, tfunple span
II .7-
hlr. Winnid
ton..
(283 3
iflikole Forms wirb which Wealth aril Dtgnity intrench Arirvot4,G(
" , ror ftiall iny Thing but Age iffirain my Refrni-
r ■, which always brings one Privilege, that of be-
•c'l ' i_.ci.iand fupcrciliout wiclioul Puailhinent.
■ Hu*. with Rcgitd, Sir, to rhafc uliotn 1 liave oSendtd, I
j-y r* Opinion, thai if I bsj aticd a horrouH Part, I lhou)d
-:vc -n-o-dcd their Ccnrute; the Heat that fffcndcd them ii
tJ»e i\rdour of C<iDiriQion, and that Zcalfot the Service of
mr Cec=iry, which neither Hope nor Fear dial! inftucnceme
1 will not fit unconcerned while my Liberty is
■■ r (ook in Silence upofi public Robbery —I will
out n>y Eodcavoufl, at whiievcr Haztrd, to repel the Ag-
nuJIar, mnd drag the Thief to Juilice, whoever may proti^
5rb ia their ViUany, and whoever may partake of their
FlMdw. -—And if the Honourable Gentleman-——
tir. WjBiitngton citl'd to Oiilcr, nod Mr. PJtt Crting domi,
he proceeded thtu.
S I >,
* II u itccelTary, l>tat the Order of ihi* Aflembly be
drfrrvcd.and ihc Debate refumed without perfonal Alterca-
Mttf. Such Etpreifiont as have been vented on this Occa-
i«B, become i>oi an Houfe eniruttrd with the Liberty and
Wdbfc of their Country- To in terra pt the Debate 00 t,
StbjeA ''I Important as lltai before ut, ii, ta fooie meafure, to
Vfatnifi the ntiblic Happinrfi, and violate our TrtiH : But
VOCti more hemoui it the Crime ofczpofing cur Determi-
MCiotil 10 Contempt, and Inciting the People to Sufptcloo or
MaUBy, l>y tndeceiil Refleflions. or unjuft torinujtioni.
* I do not. Sir, undertike to decide the Cofitroverfy be-
trcni the two Gentlemen, but mufl be allowed to obferve,
tfcatnoDtrctllty of Opinion van julltfy the Violation of De-
cency, and the L'le cf rude and virulent KKprrfTiont; Ex-
preAioni dilated oufy by Kefenimcnt, and uttered without
Jltgird to ■
Here Mr. Pitt called to Order, ttid fcid,
61 K,
* If th» be to prelffve Order, there \% no Dingrr of In- Mr- Pitn
4Ktncy from the moll liccotiout Tongue i fbrwh^t Calumny
cw be more airocioui, or what Reproach more fevere, than
thw of *pr»bing with Regard co any thing bat Truth Or-
der nay fomenme* be broken by J*aflion, or Inadvertency.
tmt wtil hardly be re-elUblilli'd by Monitort like thin who
cinaot icnvern b»« own Paffion, whilR he is rcllraining the
impctuolitjoroiheri.
O o 3 • HiFpy«
( 284 )
Aiinoi4|Geo. * H^ppy, Sir, ivou'd it be for Mankind, if crcry one Uw4
11.1743- ],|s own Province; we S-ouId not then fee the lame Min it
ly^^N^ once a Criminal and a Judge ; nor would this Geodeouik
80*111116 the Right of difUting to pihcrs yehu he bu t»
learned himfeir.
* That I may return in fome Dcgre.e the Favour which he
intends tne, I will advife him never hereafter to exert him-
fcrlf on the 3,ibjed of Ofdi-r ; but wliepever he finds himCtU
inclined to T^'cak on furii O;:carions, to remember how be liu
now fuccceded, and condemn in Silence wiiat bis Ccalurq
Vill ncvi.- pcrrorm.
Mr. Winiiington.
Si a,
< Ail was faiodered by the Gentleman's Ardour and In-
Mr. Winning- pemoiity from concluding my Sentence, none but myleif cm
know the Equity or Partiality of my Intentioni, and there-
fore, as I cannot juilly be condcmn'd, 1 ouf^ht to be fuppofed
innocent : nor ought he to cenfure a Fault uf which be &inn;::
be certain tliatit would ever have been committed.
* He has indeed exalted himfclf toa Degree of Aurhority
neveryecnir:med by any Member of this IJoufe, that ol con-
demning others to Silence. I 3m henceforward, by bit in-
violable Decree, to fit and hear his Harangues wi(liout dol-
ing to rppole him. How wide he may extend bis Autbotny,
or whom he will proceed to include in the f^me Seiit<:rce,'t
llial] hoc determine i having not yet arrived at the fame De-
gree of Sjgscity wiih himfclf, riot being ab:e to fjrt^ni.*
what aniichcr ij going to pronounce.
* If I had given OiFencc by any improper Sallie* of F-l-
fion, I ought tQ have been ccnfureJ by ihe concurrent \c tv
of the Houfe, or have rccrivid a Krpriniand, Sir. ftcm \c--,
to whom I fliouid have lubinittrd withi'ul Oppcficion ; but i
will no: lie dcomci: to Silence by cnc who has no Prtteufioi..
to Au:horiiy, and whofe srbiirary I)ecifJ■^^s can only tend :«
intiod-cc VfTnar, Difcordand Contuf:on.'
Mr. Henry Pelham.
3 t n,
Mr. Pelhani. * "V^'htn, in tl.e Ardour o( Controverfy upon ir.tcreBir(
QueHi.'in:, ciic Y^il of the Diipui^nts hinders them fioo a
rice O-'KTViiiion cf Decency iinJ Regulartiy, there ii feme
Jniu!i:i:.i:i: ilue 10 the common We^knefs of our Nature i
cor cLi^;ht any Geni!em:into aii>.x toa nrgHgeni Exptefliou
a mor^ (.fTerfive S^nfc than is necclTiHly implied by it.
* To fcarch Jeep, Sir, fcr Calumniesand Reproaches ii m
iau>!«blk: nor beneficial Cuiicfity ; it mull alvnys be irgabic-
fcnw
C 285 ) .
wrftlvei, by alarming us with imaginary lojuries; Annoi4,Geo.
iftea be unjufl to others, by charging them with In- H- 174°-
v)ticbtt><y never in:ended. General Candour and ^^/V""^^
tcdersefs will bcft preferve our owh Quiet, and fup-
Dignity which has always been accounted eflential
,1 DebiCeB^and leldom infringed without dangerous
■CM.*
rttleton,
'»
^{3^ can ty more zealous for Decency than myfelf, A(r. Lyttleton
ORviRced of the NeceJBty of a methodical Prolecu-
e C^ejlion betore us. 1 am well convinced bow
:ency and Faflionare to oneano.her,aad how ine<
lonfulioD produces Obfcuriiy; but I hope it will
■ remeaibered, that he who firlf infringei Decency,
I f;om Method, is to anfwcr for at] the Confe-
^i may arife from the neglcd of Parliamentary
For K is not be expcAcd ih;it any Man will bear
es wjtbout Reply, or that he who wanders from
lioBwiil not be followed in his DigreiEons, and
roogb his Labyrinths.
aoc, Sir, be denied, that fome Ir.fmjationi were at-
oriousio thole whofe Zeal may ip.netimes happen
ibem p3 warm Declarations, or to incite them to
Emotions. Whether I am of Jn>poriaDceenougb
tied ip the Cenfure, I defpife it too much to enquire
r, bot cannot forbear to obfcrve, that Zeal for the
never become reproachful, and that no Man can
kwterapt but thofe who dcferve it.'
[The Claufe was amended and agreed to.J
i t 1'hat all the Members of this Houfc, who ara
tia the Town, do attend the Service of tbe Houffl
ay Morning next.
iJi.'The Houfe proceeded to take into Coniidera-
Dpy of a Charter of the Turkey Company, and the
icr Papers relating to the faid Company ; and feve-
-.C9 were alfo read. Ordered, that a Bill be brought
Jarging and regulating the Trade to the Levant
h. Received 1 Petition of the Mayor and Common-
e City of York, complaining of the Decay of the
fuit£ifiure ; end reprefenting to the Houfe, That
lAligc all Owners and Manufiiflurers of Wool, to
le fiiiDe. ID the Parifhes in which they refide, by
idepOMlejit, and under no Influence, chargeable
( 286 )
Anno 14, Geo. with a cemin Sum to be paid only by thoie wba export
If;i740' without being compleatly mannfaAurcd, fecmi M ikc I
^/t'\«' titioners to be a moU effeftual Remedy to ibis grm Efi
and therefore praying Relief, Sec.
Agreed to the Report of the Bill for rupplyiog foncl
fc£ls in the Lawi for repairing County' Bridge*, imI ■
viding Houfes of Correftion : Ordered it to &e eagnSA.
Agreed to the Report of Yellerday'i Refolation* oi I
Supp'y, viz. Refotved, That io;,275l. i8i. 8d. bena
for the Charge of Tranfports hired to carry Forces n Ai
rica : That iz^, 1:641. 83. be granted for tbc EzpeM
ViAuali, provided for the Soldiers employed ia ibe Efpl
tioDi to America.
FartTierVro- fhe 1 3th, being appointed for the Report from the 0
thc'&eiDwn's mittee on the Bill ff>r the Increafe and EacoaragcmeM
|tm, Saiiort, Sir John Barnard prelentrd a Petitioa froB
Merchants of London* and fpoke as follows.
S I R,
filraS" ' '^^" Petition T am direded to lay before tbis Herf
many of the principal Merchants of that great City m)k
have the Honour toreprefent ; Men too wife tobeimj
wi:ti imaginary Danger;, and -too honeft to codovotf
(^bltruftions of any Meafures that may probably advaM
public Good, merely becaufe they do not concur witkt
private Interell i Men, whofe Knowledge and Capscil*)
ble them to judge rightly, and wtiofe acknowledged I
griiy and Spirit let them above the Sufpicion of coMB
their Sentimentt.
■ I therefore prefent this Petition in the Name of the I
ch<int:> of London, in fjll Confidence that it will be £■■
defeive the Regard of this Houfe, though I am equlljfi
tiie other Members a Stranger to what it containi; Ar
my Opinion that a Reprefcntative is to lay before ifacH
theSentiments of his Coallituen[<, whether they agiHi
his own or not, and that therefore it would bave becili
fl'joui CO examine the Petition, which, though I migh
wholly ha\e approved it, 1 hsd no Right to alter.'
The Petition was rea.^, and is asfollowi:
Tonlon P-ti- Tiie humble Petition of the Merchints and Tiaia
r:o" agamit it. ^j^^ ^>j,y ^^ ^o^j^j^ flicweih,
That your Petitionerit are informed a Bill m deye
in this [?on. Houfe, for the Enroaragemeot anti loo*
Seamen, and for the better and fpredier Manniag hi
j:L>y'5 I'leet, h which r.re Cli^fcs, tbat, fhodd tki
( 23; )
fito 1 law, 'your Petitioners apprehend will be highly Antio 14, Gctr
ncDtal to the Trade and Navigation of this Kingdom, by Iijyjo.
anging Perfons from entering into, or being bred to
in Service, and entirely prevent the better and fpeedier
tiag his Majelly'i Fleet, by giving the Seamen of Gieat
JB, ftod of all other hit Msjelly's Dominions, a Dif*
of ferving on board the Royal Navy.
bat yoDT Petitioners conceive nothing can be of fo bad
cqaenccto the Welfare and Defence of this Nation, as
•uting fo ufeful and valuable a Body of Men, who are
Btval Strength and Security, like Criminals of the
eft Niture, and fo diffisrently from all other his Ma~
1 Snbjefts ; and at the fame time are perl'uaded, that
iflly cfftAual and fpeedy Method of procuring, for the
ce of bii Majelly's Fleet, a proportionable Number of
iailon in this Kingdom, is to diitinguifh that Body of
l^ Bountie* and Encouragements, both prefent and
C ind hy aboliOitng all Methods of Severity and ill
jc, particularly that Hraflice whereby they are deprived,
looK and hazardous Voyages, of enjoying for a Ihort
e cv Time the Comforts of their Families, and equal
r^ with other their Fellow Subje£ls in their Native
bujoar Petitioners bcliere, it will not be difficult to
fach Methods pointed out, as will tend to fupply the
■I Neccflitiei, and at the fame Time efitflually pro-
efac laereate of Seamen, when this Hon. Houfe (hall
t ft to enquire into a Matter of fuch high Importance
e Naval Power, Trade, and Riches of this Kingdom.
Int foor Petitioners are convinced this Bill will not
be incffcAual to anfwer the Ends propofed by it. but
be dcftrodive of the Liberties of all his Majelly's Sub*
■I icimpowers any Parifh Officer, accomp.iny'd with
tHmited Number of Perfons, at any Hour, by Day or
l^iitf 10 force open the Dwelling Houfes, Warehoufes,
^er Places, provided for the Security and Defence of
.loTCa and Fortunes, contrary to the undoubted Liber^
if the People of Great Britain, and the Laws of this
CoDfideratioD therefore of the Premifes, nnd of the
alar Prejudices, Hardships, and Dr.ngers, which mui't
c^iljr atieod your Petitioners, and all others the Mcr-
■ SDd Traders of this Kingdom, .Oiould this Bill pafs
ft JLaw, your Pe:itioaers moll humbly pray, the Ho-
bis Hoafe, that they may be heard by their Counfcl
ktbe Aid Claufes in the faid Bill.
a Aid PciitioD wis ordered to lie on the Table; and
the
.1,...
( x99 )
Anno 14. CcQihe TIoTioanbJc Mr.Buhuril Ibea prt{enttd a
n.i74'>. fpokcas followi.
^-''"^'^^^ Mr. Bathurft.
5 I M.
Mr. Bitiiwift. • The .Alarm whkh the Dilt now drprndflig
ii ODt confined id ihc Cit)r tf Lomioit, or to My'
Province of hit MujffI)'! Docniniomt tlic KM
it ihrown into CommotMMi*, and tbc LAe^ bf |hc|
propofed ate dreaded £ir and wide 31 j e^r.cr
Ever}' Tout! which owes it* Trade ..1
vlgaiion, apprebendi the Appro .ch
mid ihofe which nrc Icfs immcdiarr
lofrtdion ufour Liberuet at a Prei.i -
H>ip(7 would it be, if we who »re mirulinl
ttrdl, could find aay Argdtnroii [OCORviarci
Terror wai merely pink.
• Thai ihefe Fean have tWetdy cxler''-'
to the Cbuoty wUicii [ rcprrfer.i, the Pc
beg Lave to Uy be'orc the Houie, v-'i
and I hope their Rcmonnnncei wi
ftmbif to remove the Oufc oflhcir i^iHiujet,'
the Blll.-
Thia, w»i rnri[!ed» PctiiiMi orfcveni Geii:)ra
holdert. ind other Inhabiuntt of the Coutuy or '
in Btha'f of tbcmfclvri and xll orher the Frc
(aid Countf . letting tarih in Subi{aoc>e.
That the Pctinonen be-ing iofonn'J thjt
depeitdtog in thii Hoafr. far the Eocoti^i
locirareof Seamea. and for the better and h
niBg hi» Mtjefly'% Meet. conniBirg fevrmi Qii
fhould the Bi)l p*ri inio a Law, would, u the
ftpprchend, inpole liardlhifM upon the Pcoi
to be borne, and create Dilconteoti ia the
Maj«Sy*i SabjeAi ; would fuhvert aU the
vilegei of a BritOD. and overturn hUgaa
the Bafii on which they arc baiit 1 aad by tl
Itroy thar very Liberty, for the PrrferrattiM of 1
prefcnt Royal Fimilf wai >-''■ " ; -,i ^lyon the'
Great Brinin ) for wbicii 1 ch a Ltw
be obe)'cd, or much Blood kl.4;u oe {had ii
of it.
Mr. Heqry Pelhaio.
S t a,
* I have attended to thiv Protiott whli tKe
tiality, wd bivt endeAroared tO'^C
noil innocirt Scare, but can&oi for^
Oonctftef Pe.
tlUOIl,
Mi. PeUuBL
r 189 )
Aat it ii fir dJtUnt from th* Stile cf Snbraiffioo Anno ItCe*'
Rrcjorll; inUud of pcrruading. they areempt to iniimi. It 1740.
tu, and acaace us wiih no le;') cHin S.'oocillicd and Re-
iHian. Tbey mske ihemfelves the Judges bf our Pro-
and appeal from our Derermiiisttont to their Opi-
^, —d dcclgjc ihxt the/ wiU obey bo Ignger tluo ihey
^Tf foch Petiiionias theff. Sir, are admitted t if tl>« Lew
^laure Ih ill fubmit 10 receive Liws. and Subjedi nfamc it
'ir« ibe Power with uhich ibe Goverr.mcne it v«ned,
is thii Hoofe but t CoDTc&ttOD of einp:> Plun;umi,
Determinations are notliing more than a Mocktry of
•I
t Every tnfult upon this Houfe is 1 Viobtioo of our Con-
' itioD* and the Conllitution, like erery other Kabri<. by
[Wag often battered, mult fall at Utl. It is indeed already
f^tffaycd. if there be in the Nation any Bcdy of Men who
ImI) with Impunity refufc to comply *ith the [jwi. pirad
ibr pnt Charter of Liberty againft thole Powtn ika: made
k, ud £x the Limits of tbeir Obedience.
• I nnnot. Sir, pafs over in Silence the MrntioD of ha
Utjt&f, wbefe Title to ibe Throne, and :h- Reafons for
wtntb he Krij exalted to it, are (ci forth with uncftmmoa Att
ttd STiril of Dietton. but Spirit, which, tn my Of irion, ap-
pean cot raifcd by Zcz), but by Sediuon, and K'bich tberc-
lore it ii our Province 10 reprefs.
• That his Majelly retgnsfor the Preferraiion of Liberty,
w3|be readily confcHed.but bowQuU we be able co preferve
il, if bii Laws are not obeyed i
• [<r tn therefore, in tcgstd to the Dignityof ihisHoofe,
18 I; I ■ . .■ of our DcKrmination). anJ the Security of
oar L n, difcoarage all thofe (vlio fhall iddtcCs us for
(be tuiujc ca tbii or sny other Occsfictn, trom fpeiking in
I (te Stilc of Governon and D^&aton, by refiifing that this
rioo (hould be laid on the Table.*
The QuciUoD wa» pu;, and it was agtreJ thit it lhoul4
[aociycou the Table; Ayes 144. Nuet i<}6.
|lr. Henry Pclham rofc up agaio. and fpoke Hum
SlK.
. I r^nB.^r hot ceitgTtiolate the Hoofr upon the Uoaai- Mr. Ucnr|
ftitv lich ihii Peiition. a Petition of which I fpeak PeUtauw ■
U i^c ,^.i,.', ;.Ang-jige,fvlim 1 call it irrcvcicnt antldil'rctj.>rA>
.-, ha* been rvfuird the Regard commonly paid to (he
KcrooaUianccs of out Cooftitucnts, wbo£e Righu i am ^
VuL vn.
f P
Iron
( «90 )
Anno 1 4- Gto from defiringto infringe, when leadeavour to regiilite their
n. i74i> Condufl, and recal them to tbeir Duty.
^yYN^ * This is an Occafion, on which it is, in my Opioicn,
necelbry to ixert '>ur Authority with Confidence and Vigour,.
aa the Spirit of Oppoiition muft fthnys be proportioned to
that of the Attack. Let us therefore not only refji'e to thil
Petition the u(ua! Place on our Table, but rejcft it as uawor-
thy of this Houie.
[ rbe QuelUon was put and the Petition rejcfied }
The Houre then entered upon the Confideration of ihe
Bill, and when the Report was made from the Committee,
and the BUnks gil'd up. Sir Willum Yonge fpoke in the
fullowing Manner :
S I a.
Sir William * "^^^ Bill has been brought by fleady PerfeventDCC ud
Yonge. diligent Attention tofachFejfcQion that much more irapor*
tant EfFcds may be expe£bed from it than from any fonaer
I^w for the fame Purpofe, if it be executed with the lame
Calmnefs and Refoluuon, the fame Coottmpt of popular
Clamour^ and the fame invariable and intrepid Adherence to
the public Good, that has been ibewn in forming and dciod-
ingit.
• But what can we hope from thil or any other Law, if par-
ticular Men, who cannot be convinc'd of i'li Expedience, uall
not only refufe to obey it, but declare their Defiga of ob-
firufting the Execution of it ? fhaJI determine to retire {torn
the Sphere of their Authority, rather than exercift itia
Compliance with the Decree of the Senate, and thrcaice ia
plain Terms to call the Country in to their AflirtaDce, aad CO
pour the Rabble by Thoulands upon thofe who fluU daic ID
do their Duty, and obey tbeir Governors ?
• Such Declarntioni as theft. Sir, are little lefiibBBSlllin
of Rebellion, and if they pafs without Cenfure, will perbapi
produce fucb Commotions af may require to be fupprefledb|r
other Means thr.n Forms of Law and Parliamentary Cenfarcf.
• Nor do 1 think that by rcj^fling the Petition, we have
fufHctently ctiablrfti'd our Authority ; for, in my Ojrinion, we
yielded too much in rene.ving it. The Bill before ui, what-
. evtrr a\..y be its Title, is in reality a Money-Bill, a Bill I7
wiiich Aids are granu-d ro the Ciown, and we bave Cbeia>
furc no NeceHity of rejecting Petitions on this OccafioBa b^
caufe the lUhding Orders of tnc Uoufe forbid ui CO adnic
chem.'
TJiey
(^91 )
Thfy then prOcrf*3ed loUie ^mendmenti, and when t^c AnnoH.i
Qub for Itmiring ihr Wdg»of ^c;>.mrn wai reid, Sir John '^ *'*°'
kaud rote up, tnd (poke to ibii Effccl.
..Sift,
■ i Wcart nowtocooftJcrthr CUnle to wliich ibe Pftliion sir John
ftel which I have no* y.r. ir.trL', a I'-tiiion on a Siihjrtl bartuiJ.
itfhgrncfil hnpcruncc. and . iV -M hy \^!rn iniii*;! .rqiwint-
rtwrth every Aigu.nfni tlijtili.'i bcotl. 'i!, irdfvrry Ob-
it CJin be rnilnl, that their KeijuciL of Ix^ng hczrd
Cooncil, cannot Ik dcmet), w>[ho<it cxpnling ui to
rC of adbcriiig obllrniitc'f lo our own Opinioni*
-..- . n^ our Eart agitnll Inform-iiioBi of pitfrrnng Kxpe>
to ^iccurity, and dilrcgarding the Welfare of our Couo-
* It viQ not be nectfTiry, lodcJerour Deiciintnatior.s on
' ".li for more ihiin three Days, the' vie (hould gnitlfy
inJ common Reqiwil. And will not ikh Cait be
■.umpentatcU 6y the Sxutf.'^tia of ihe Pcup'e, for
Siftty wc arc dtbscing, and by (he Cotijciouftief't ihit
ic iKgl«£t?d nothing which might contribute lo iho
I fifiort of uur Meal'u.'c* ?
Mcrchanct, Sir, do eot come before ui with load
- -ncri and harra^ng ComplaiotJ. thry do nor apply
. but our L'udcrlUndiDgs aod oUcr fuch lofor-
I very much faciiiwte tliepurtli;; Service. It
cnt. m thetourreof ihi« Dcbjrc, to hrar loud
: b<:icr Iljtpcdicnt^, aod mote cfHdiiiijus chao
which h^re bcCQ propoieJ, and is it to be couceivcd
io)e wboc4llcd thiimgerlr for new PropoCili intended
jftforro themfelvet bm to filcnce ikeir Opponents?
whom. Sir, are (be bctl Mrtbodj for the Proiccu-
(ttval .\RA\n to he cxpedcd, but from ihoff whofc
»r^ fncnt in the Stud)f of Qwiineicc? whoie Foi-
I'DH the Knowledge of the Sea, and who will
j.v^^.,. , exert their Abilities in concriving Expe'.ienti
sitt the Succefs of the War, than they whom the Mif-
igeofour P",cet» tnufl i.reparibly ruin ?
' The Merchints Sir, are enabled by their Profeflion to
iferm Di, Are detcr'd by their Inicreft from deceiving m ;
•^Kavc, like all other Suhjefis, a Right to be heard on any
•efiien, a»d a bet ■ ~ thnn any other when their !n-
htt U more imni' Tcfted ; and thercfsre to rcfufe
h«ar ihein, will be a; cncc iupoliric and cruel t it ^vill
(cover at the i^aoie time • Contempt of the moll v&luiiblc
ttt d ooi FcllMr-fabjc^t. and an inflexible Adherence lo
X own OpioioDs.
P p = • The
detrnnTnrd widraot thevlarrft Ki>owIe(l£e ifi
furmaiiun.*
a
S<r Robeit Walpole.
Sii,
SirKobnt * The PetiHcm, wbether juflifiaWc Or not, wi:Ji
Walpq!e. ijjg Occafion oo which it is prefenicd, or lh« 1a
u'hich It ii cxprefTed. » ceminly offered it in
Time, and ihcnfme cso Uy fto CUini to the IUj;tf
Houie.
' The Time pcrfcribed by the Relei of tMi Hob
Recrpiion of Peiiiioni is that, at which the Bii) is i
djceJ. nriat whkb it » tabefioatly detrmiicid.
' The Pedtion before ui ii uid not to rtginl t
general, but a piinicuUr daulc : &nc] U U chcicron
tit:i( it may now properly b« lieai<J ; but thlt Plea «f
dutely Tinilh, when it fhxtl be msdeapp^ (btt ti
ii not mentioned in i:, and that ciiere i* no part
lion bciwccnihjtaod the Peutioo, which I fliall
Sir Jobs Bunanl.
S t R.
Sjf jobrt * I rife i))us abruptly, to prcferre the Order of |]
iUrrurX and to prevent my Gendcmin fftun hiving In t|
any other Adviotagc above the let), ih&Q thl( <
Abiliiiet, or moie cxtcnfire Kcowlctfge.
• The PetitioQ w» not oidercti by the Htmfc tt
in the Right Honourable CentlemaB*! Hand, fa
I'uble ; nor hat he a Right to make ole oF WT oth
. ktt kk la"
*.
tahrUam thinkinf, the Rule: q{ the Honfe aflerr-
inny Opinion, tic Ktglicoi tbcMrmbcrn infringe
. percmpiory Demand. Ii it not u tbebighcil Dc>
itiite, tiiat he who is about tu fcafonupoa the Pcii>
lU tcqiuitit himrdf wiEh the SubjcA on which be l§
^Bconvenieoce* an enfue from fuch Liberties at
K( sblatodifcovcr, and as lU the Orders of the
1^ doul'tlefij made Tor more eaiy and cxpcditiou*
; if an Older be contrary to th.k End. ii ought lo
teed for the Hcafons for which others arc qbfcr»cd,
Ooofidence with wliicb ibis Pebtion waaprelemed,
'ui«r ui to iaiagtoe that the Ferfoa who offer'd it
itc<n fuftff by a dole Examination, and, lluppofc,
ic tilt rpokea lo warmly in Favour of it without
be doet not cxpefl cbu otben fhould with cqu&l
X wimit — —
IB Barnard obferving that Sir Robert W»tpolf louwd
lO«Wdi the 1 able, to read the PetitioD u k l*y»
Jiimi>i4,€eoi.
It «740.
Mr. Henry
t oocc more to iJcnuind The Obfervation ofihe Or-Sir Jdhn
c Hottfe, and to hinder the Right Honourable Gen-I^ruid.
<oin doing by Straugem. what he did nore opcaty
iftljr before.
lu so little Furpotc list he Uid down the Petition,
DCd it within the tcicK of Kia InfpcAianj fui I was
MoifSir, to binder him frono reading, aiid was far
'r*^'-|T that he would uke it away, i iofitt, that
. obey the KuleV ofthii Houfe with im Eyes
*v :in ml Handt, a&d cake no Advantage of bii Scat,
1/ enable bun to perplex the QucUion id Debate.*
^kcr.
r aadmlncdly rtqoircd by (he Orderi of the Hou(<e, The Speaker.
Pscuiont (bould lie upon the Table, and tbae any
,who u deGrout of any farther SaiuNAMm, fhould
hti ibey be rcid by the Clerk, that every Member
9limiui* Opporiunity of underfbndingand con/i-
Cue miy be excluded trom Jofor-
Illation
( 294 )
AwHi I*. C«* mation by the Curiofity or Delay* ofanoihfr. I
II ^•^o. [torunce of ihii Aniir feems not tu be fo 1
^/"V"^ qufre a rigorous Obfcrvancc of iSc Ruin .
wiftied, *or (he Rafe and Expedition of
Gen-iemen would ncfaer yield Polots of i-
unoihcr, ihin in&ft fo warm)/ on CtrcunUtaneci
Kftfuire.
S.r Robert Wilpo'e then defireJ thit (be Cle
re-id itic l^ctirion, which brin{> tmmniUtely d
cccdcd in the fb'Iowing Mmoer.
Sir Robert Wjilpole.
SlE,
• H*ving (at above f. rty Years In Ih- ArT'-;
never btrtl failed lo Order befof«, I wai iw-.\fm
■eertet) by Jt Cenfure fu new tml onexjMffed, m
Opinion, brtJcferved 60 (fiat I im fonwwliat
%»«ft rrg-.rd (o the Tnii» of A'-gumeni* whkh I
eWcavoiir Jo rcrovcr. Yet I cjnnor bot rctnirk^
Q(i tf fo follicitous for Order raoth
Uiti H)1y (oobfcrrr it ; *nd (hit. If I
gircQ in uohsppy 'Pro(tdrn( of violntng tikr Rl
hour<. I have, ifl Tome Menfurr, iton^ for oi]
tci>ce, by a patient Aiteotioii to Reproof, aad a 1
ra:ir>OQ to Authority.
• I brpc. Sir. I nay ckim fon« trdolRerc'T frot
(i?eof my Offvucc. whiCh wui only a l>" - -^
■nd ah Apprchenfion tbst I might, by m.
ling lotnc PafTigei in the Pciition, lole it
ititcj'upr ihe Proceeditgi of the Iloute to r
• Km having ni w, sccotti'mg to Order, ^.rlro in
iitd lourul no Rcafon to alter my Opinion, I fluO
lo t 'xuftf, that it ouj^ht rot to be gm
• ' Sifj itio fu- ffom bcBiingasy
Rt' . ttut it don
I'm ! in It. but
cenerftl ii>cclaia(ioo o( Utk^nwnt, iid(picifMI» 1
liuri cf dangerout Proceedinge, Rnd Diflike of
ctrJirg* : Inlinu:ition», Sir, by co Mcibi <o»€
the Kcvcirrtre due to tbii A(tirmfaHr« aivd wbkli
cf ctvil GovcromcDt requiitt alwayt to be pild <
fi-.tivc Poiier,
• 'lo fu pctt any Mao, Sir, in common
Degrre to detrtft from hi» l**p«tlticn. <*
Proportioa to ibc Itippurcd Wildom .\:d iir.z^:
who dcclaiet hi) Suipi<:ion. I o luJy-cci ti- : '. • :
495 )
U toinrarKUte their Ueciitonf, and fubjcA tticm lo Annnti^Qem.
asd Oppofiiioo. U iTju
ud fucfa ontjr appears to be tlie Teadenc)^ ofliie ^^^>^^^
wfctcii bai flow been mA j t Petition, Sir, verf
IfdrtLwa, if it vras tucndrd againll the C aafe no-
C'oofidenitiDn, ior it has cot 3 tingle Pcticd or Ex.
dtu docsnoccquaUv regsrd 2II tbe other Cladet.
Uy pariicuUr Objcclion is tnide, or say tingle
more dininilljr i>otnted ai, it is the Pra^ice of
; a Hard^ip I own peculiar to the Siiilori ; but it
t oUicTvcii, thai it is a Pra&icc cltablilhed by irantr-
lUlom. and a Irain of Precedents not 10 be nun)'
^_ i sad It h vkH known that the whole common I^w
Vttit Xaiion is nothing more thao Cullom, oi wbich Che
I^Biiirg cannoc be traced.
• ImyrciTci, Sir. have lit all Ages been i/i'iied out by
Cftc wi tbe Royal Prerogative, and have in all A{»
ku obeyed I and if this Hxertion of that Authority ba4
in coaikicrcd a a Method of Severity not coinpcnCitcd
^ Ac BcDriii which it piuduces, we cannot inugine but
Jarftn pAtUaments, anidk all their Ardour for Liberty, all
Tcademefs for the People, and all their Abhorrence
Power of the Crown, would have obviated it by fosie
at tbole Times when nothing could hikve been rcfui'd
* Tkc fToper Tiirr ibr new Scheinei and long Dcltbrra-
bOKI, forainrnding our Conliitution, find trmu^ing, invete-
:t[e Grievances, ate tbe Dtyi of rfolfcnty aod &• fcty.
• Immeciate Dangrr preflcs upon ut, nor any public
^ » »Pfy-.r* to threaten u» j but when W»r isdtclared,
win»'c^ic 'ly. gcd ID open HolliJiiiesagatoJl one Naiioa,
mj . — /. .. i^ tprcdily attacked by anotl-rr, we are not tu
trf r,t», but apply 10 d.-tDgcroiis iiviU thate Re-
acd-vi, wHKii. iho(ig)idirBgr«eabie» »e know 10 bec&ca<
* Aod though. Sir, the Petitioners had been more p-tnicu-
far* 1 caaaot liikover Uic Rr^lua^bkncb of hi:4i>i,|{ ditn
lytlMir CuuDcil; (or to wh;it I'ur^oie are tbe (.jwycts 19
wikCroducM i not to inilruct m> b> liieir I caicing, (or their
faployment i> 10 underilaiKl i!ir Law* that h.>%c been al-
ttti/ tahdei and luppoit the Pr^fVcck which they knd
tfti&|i(bcJ B^t the Queilion before ui relates not to ut
Sit biM the iuturc ; nur are we now toeJumme what t\ •
Men doae m iJtmer Ages, but what it will become w t.9
(iiUilb oa the picfent Qcril'ioD : A SubjeCt ci Enquiry oa
wkirb this Houis can cxpctt niy Mtio laAwmauon [i-.m
^jAs tnkllan e( the Lmu 1
■ • Perhapt
>
Antto f4,Cco. • PcrKao* thc Paltioocffi cxptA (rota thetr
11.1740. ihcf (hould difpby rhe Fecundity of iticJt 1im|
tlic Elegsncc &f their languge 1 Uut they
U4 wiih the lilurions of Oratory, diale 01 with
affeCl at with tirong RcprclisiuaiiaaG ; sad tall
mooious Periods i but if it be only iDtcndcd
nod valid Atgumenis fhtwld be laid bcfote ai, iMy '
IccciTcd wichouc Oxc Decorationt of (he Bar.
Sir, it woald bavc been ruScient had Uw
their Rtprcfertitiv-es of tho MethoJi whick
propofc i for the Abilitiei of the Gentlemoi wl
lui( de|mced to this Hoofe, are welt known a
lUnd in Deed of no AlEftiDce from occifional Onic
can it be expelled that any Men tvill be foand 1
of undertlandingthe ArTuncnti of the McrclttBOU
qualified to by them before the Houfe.
* That every Pedtioner hit (cxc«pt on Moac7*|
R'lgtn to be beard, ii uRdoubcedly true ; bat ili»
dent that (hii Right k limited to a certaJa TfaM^i
ihii Occifioo the proper Time is elaptied. Ji
b*[li to Individuali and to the Nation ; if '
any 'i'iioc be ofFcr'd, and are wheocver ofiti'd
afniAU Qody of Men might, by uofcafbfiableai
PetidoBi. retard any occationai Law, till it
ODDCcclUry.
■ Petitiont, Sir.aretobeoflitr'd whraaaewBillitl
into the Hoofe, thst all ufeful Informatioa n»y bci
bat wbcQ It bos pifi'd thro' the Kxsminatios of
mitieef, hu been approved by th« CoUcAivc Wi
the Parliament, and requirei only ■ fornitl Katif
[;tve it [he Force of Law, it 11 ncitbcr ofuil aor
oflrr Petitioni, or declare any 0iQike of whait
meat bai admitted.
* Wa are not, when we have procMikil tJtu> br.
Pleaders to cximioe our Coodu£t, or vary our
lioDf, according to the OpinJotii of ihofe wbon «« <
believe lets acquainted uith rhe Qoeftioit Cbaa
Should wc once tie reduced to aik Advice, aiu) f '
ton, what woald be the Repuuiioo of ihtt
Couru, er m our own Country ? What oouht '
but thitoar Eaemiei of every kind would codi
gulate our Determiftatioiis by bribing our Inf
* Nor C9D I think it nece&ry that Lau-yen
ployed to hying before a» any Schrr- ■, ' ■! '1 ii
may piopofe. for fitpplying the J )
Inconvcniencies of the Law%, by ^oko ^jiIc
fea: ievicd for the Royal Navy ( far how
3
( 297 )
Bl&ftne qnaified thin other Mer, to cxpTain the particulir Arnoi4,Gefc
kdvutages of (ach Expedient.*, or toaniwcr any ObJLClicns ^'- '74o-
Rkkh my happen to arife i V-X^'V*^
* It i« well known that ic '» not eafy for che moti happy
fipnker nimprefs his Notions with the ^crcngth with which
VtncciTC) them; and yet harder is the I'afk of tranfmic-
tii|iapined Knowledge, of conveying lo others thole Senti-
■ftDwhich we have not llrack out l>y our own Reflet^lion,
MTOdiefied from our own Experience) but receiveo wciely
'ftvnitheOiAates ot another.
■ YctfiKh mull be the Information that Lftwyers can give
■■(Vkocio only 'relate what ihcy have implicitly received,
mti Miken the' Arguments which they have heard, by aa
laperitfi Recital.
' Nor do I only oppofe the Admifiion of Lawyers to our
Bar, bis think the Right of the Merchants themf'elves in
thcarcJcBt Cafe very quellionable i fur t ho' in general it
iWEfal rillowedi that every Petitioner has a Ciaim to our
AnodN, yet it ii to be enquired whether it is likely that
dsfrite Happinefs is his chief Concern, and whether his
Ettlnterelt is not too much affefled to fuffer him to givs
rill Evidence, or hone(t information Scarcely uay
Babe made by which fome Man ii not either impo-
VUtkul, or hindered from growing rich : and we are not tO
BIq u Complaints, of which the Foundation is fo caftly
ntolmd, or imagine a Law lefs ufcful, becaufe thufe who
MvfaRimmtdutelKConveaience from i:, do not approve
'» ■ The Qneftion before us is required by the prefcnt Exi-
JpNI«f our Affiiirs to be fpfcJi.y d.-cidcl ; and tho* the
MKhants have, with great 1 endernefs Companion, nnd
iftMjt condelcended Vj oifer us their Advice, L think lix-
Midoo preferable to ai:y Informntiuo tli^tt can rcdlonablv
it cneAed from them, and iha;, ai^ they will futfer in tine
llPlace by any Milconduflof our nav.l Afl^irs, we ih.iM
Inrnorc Regard to their Intcrell hy marning our i'icct
Kiltel)r,- thin by wainng three or four Days foi farther
tiooi*
Mr. Sxaiji.
SiK,
^ The Merchants of London, whether we ci-fider their Mr- Sandys.
— hrn, their Property, their Integrity, or tli=ir Wifdotn,
(.a Body of too much Importance to be thus concemptu-
^ fcjeftedi rejected when they ?Ik nothing that can bo
Kf deaicd to (he nie?^eft SubjeA of the Kingdom : when
Vol. Vli. Q q (he/
. ( 298 )
Anno 14. Geo. they propore to fpealc on eathing bat wliit tfcdrl
^Ll'JSi "lable* *•»<'" » uoderfliBiJ.
I— ^^^^ • To flO?crf>ofcis it urged, (hat cbc Bin h hrtd
for if we have not proceeded in the right way. we
be in more Htfte to return, in Propor(ioo zt tt-e k
brther ; nor can I dircover why we ihuo'tt expediH
much Afliduity, Meafurn which are judged incii
ifaole wbo know their Con(e<{uencet bcft, mi for m
* vantage ihty ate partJcutarljr dcfiganl.
• That we hive iUezdy Iprnt to mach Time iB CC
Method) for tnanning the Fleet, t( fartly one Re
we ftwuld endeavour at h& to e^ablifb fucb a$ may
lusl ; nor can we hope to fuccred wsthoat m patieaf
to ihrir Opinion, wbo mail necefliirily be well sz;
I in naval Affiiri.
• h ii fgrely therefore neither prvdent nor juft *
Intrlligencc from our Afrcmbliet. and ridicate tb«
tcntion of (hoCe th« o0er ic : lo coaful; upoa the hti
coti far enct>tingrng and iacreafing Sailors, idij \
Merchanii offi-r thrrrSchrmr, to treat theinai Uk
uoeni.idle Mcdieri, ibataHiime -.*
Mr- (Attorney General) Ryder called him
fpoke after thia manner :
S I a.
■ It ii flot very conMcrit to preb the Difpti
and to fcGinJ it at iht rsme nine by inrraio«i
or unjuil Reprcreniatibni of Aigumenii or Ex
whenever any E^tprtOioBii cenrured, it ongbttobt
in thrbme Words: forotherwilVdoea not the Anil
nifc tbe Phantom that be eocounteri / Doea he »oc
Slain, which be endesvoara with fo oiflcb officiow
Wipeaway »
• That no Gpithetsof Contempt or Ridtctilt ba
I>cb.iie brcn applied to the Nfeivhinti. nor any Vi
J>crnry aiicmptrd, it ii uanrceiTiry ta^tove 1 iod
itil neither regular nor candid lorepirlent any M
gravating the Reftifal cf their Pttltion utih Rcproi
iDfaUs. But not 10 dwell longer on thii looiia
take the Liberty of reminding tbe Cenileman. tl*
Invcdirn are atwayi at lead tupciiluoji, aad tkat
Befiof tbe Day rccpora rather Argumrnti tbaa Sn
Mr. Saodyi.
Sift.
• I un by M> nttot eonviiKcd *iui tb« tnnaJ
tuu wbo (birgn ao with Irfrgalarity, U bfOr ■
Smki}U
ihiD ayfcif with the Rules and Cuftoms of this Houfe, Anno 14, Geo,
which I have fiudicd with great Application, afliiied by long 11- 174^*
ElpertCBCe. I hope, therefore, it will be no inexcut'able V.X^V*^/
fltrainptioni H, inftead of a taciL Submiflion to his Genlure,
I iftrt, in my own Vindicacion, that I have not deviated
im the cAabJilhcd Kules of Parliament ; that J have
j^nken only in De/ence of Merit infultcd ; and tliat I have
CMdanned ooly fuch injurious lofinuations; I did not, Sir,
aoenpt to repeat ExpreHious, as ought cot to be heard with-
cot Reply.'
He Speaker.
Si a,
* I believe the Gent'eman either heard imperfcAly, or The Speaker,
ufioderflood thofe Exprelli<jns, which he fo warmly con-
^01, ibr nothing has been uttered that could jutUy excite
U| Indignation. My Ofiice obliges me on this Occafion to
nmrk, that the Regard due to the Dignity of the Houle
<^1uio retrain every Member from DigreiGons into private
Sxbai for in Proportion, as we proceed with lefs Decency,
nwl^rinioitions will have lels InHuecce.
Mr. Hcory Pclhain.
S.I t,
* The Reputation which the Honourable Gentleman has Mr-Pelham.
I ^BRd by his uncommon Knowledge of the Ulages of
'wiuem, is too well founded to be fhaken; nor was any
^BKk upon his Character intended, when he was inter-
nvtol in the Hioftcution of his Defign. To cenfure anjr
■HceDt Expreflion by whomfocver u:tered, is doubttefs con-
■Int with the l)ri£lell Regularity ; nor is it lefs improper ^
^- IB obriateany Mifrcprcfectation which Inattention or Mif-
\ lihe may produce.
* lam iar. Sir, from thinking that the Gentleman's la-
Agoatioawas excited rather by iMalice than Millake; but
Midakei of this kind may produce Conlequences which
ouoc be too cautioufly avoided. How uawilUngly would
ikat Gentleman propngate thro* the Nation an Opinion that
ifce Merchants were infulied in this Houfe, their Intereft
■rtlefted, and their intelligence defpifed, at a Time when
■o Afperfion was thrown upon them, nor any thing intended
bot Tendernefs and Regard ? And yet fuch had been the
BeprelcntaE>on of [his Day's Debate, which this numerous
Audience would have conveyed to the Populace, "had not the
Mifiake been immediately reflified, and the Rumour crulhed
ia tbcBirdi.
0.9 2 < Nothing,
( 300 )
.nno,i4» Geo ' Nothing, Sir, can be more injurious to the Chirafier of
It. 1740. this Houfe, by which the People are reprefenuii, thsn to
-/''^VN.y accu'e tlicm of treatitig any Clafs of Men wi;h Ini'olcnce
am' Cor.tempt; and [00 much Diligence cannot b:: ulcd in
obviating a Report which cannot be fpread in the N'tcion,
without givinr^ Rile to Difconienr, Clamourf, and SeJition.
• Thoic who (hall be inclined to rejrft [he I'ctitior, may
T>crhaps a& withr.olefs Regird to 'he Merchant', ami laif
promote their Intcrcll and thtirSccuriry wiih no lef- Ar-
dour ihrin tiiole who moll fullicitoully labour fur JLs Recep-
tion. I'or, il rlit-y arc not nllowed to be he^rd, it is only
bccaufe the pub tc Intcreil requires Fxptdiiion, and becaufo
every DeUy cf our Prepnnilioni i> nn Injury to Trade.
< That this is not a prnper Tiino for Petitions agiinfl '.fee
Bill to be hcar<i, is univer'.illy known, :ind I tan difcoi'rr
nothii g in the I'cfition that reliraiiis ic to li.is paiiicubr
Claufe, uhich is fo fcr from being rpi.'ci!:Ld, tha: ic apptjr;
to be the only Part of the Jjill vf which they have hid no
lr.telligencc.
• Let the warmcft Advocates for the Petition point oot
any Pnrt of it that relates to [his fingle Claufr. and I will
retraft tny Atlurciun; but as it <ippe.irs ihat there are only
general Dtrli rations of the Inexpediency of the Meafurei
propofcd, and the pernicious Tendency o( the Methcds now
in Ufe. what is the Petition, but a Compbint againft the
Bill, and a Requcfl that it fhould be laid afidc ?
• The Pniftice of Imprcjli-:, Sir, is p^rticubrly cenfurH,
as fevcrc ard opprcflive ; a Ch:i:ge which, howtver true,
lias no Relation to this Claufe, which is intended to prom> tt;
the vohmtary Engngemer.t of S:tilors in the Service of the
Crown; yei it may not be improper to obferve, that ai the
Praflice of imprciling, is, in iti'elt very cfli.:aciou)i, lad wetl
adapted to (ni.'den Emergencies, as ic ha^ been eltabliflwd 1^
B long Succeflion of Ages, ^.nd it then fore become almidt a
Psrt of cur Conllitution ; and as i: is at this '1 tme nccefliry
to fupply the Navy with the utmoll Expedition, ic is Mttbcr
decent nor prudent to complain too loudly againlt, or to
heighten ihc Di'content of the People at a ncctfbTy Evil.
• We have. Sir. examined every Part of this Bill with the
Aicentinn wi.ich the Di-t^ncc of the Na'ion reqaircii we
have rcf;en'd the Rigour of the Methods firft propofcd, and
a(!mit:ed no Violence or Harc^^iip th:it is not abfoluwiy dc-
ct'iTary to inr.ke ihe LaweA^eftual, which, like every other
],aw, mvifl he executed by Force, if rt be obltruAed oroppo*
fed. Wc have inferted a great Number of Amendnent),
prnpofed by thofe who are reprefet^ced as the moft a&zieas
Cuuidiatts of the Privileges oj the People, and it» aocfiirclx
If
( 30" )
hat (o Anno u,Cea.
II, 174^.
Piirpofe tbat ihe great Council orttc Natcon
^ttul loJtudiciuliy labour'd,
Thok who ftrechoren by the People to rrprerent them.
iwk>i^(i!ly, Sir, fome Cl^im as IndividuaU to their
and Rerpefl : for to imagine that tUcy have com-
tlic g:c«t Ch.Mgc of parliarxMoiary Employ men ti,
Ititff luve tiuiled their I.ibertiei aad their Happineli to
twiiore Inegrity they iu(fe£\, or whole UndcriUndingt
ddpitc, ii to iinngine them much more llupkl than they
•bica rcprerentcd by thofe Kho are cenl'ur'd as their
Bo: fir diflercnt is the Regard due to the Determina-
fonatd by the callcAive Wtfdoiti of the Farli::nicnt ; m
mhich ought to border upoa Kevcrence, and which
Jy confjflen: with the leaJi Murmur of Di^IalitCiaJoB.
are lo hear the prefent Petitioner*, h it not pro-
' -ewe have difparch'd them, we {ball be loUi-
, who Will then picjd the fame Right, fapport-
U Dcw r'lcccdent * And i.<s it not pcflible that by oae In.
upon another, our Meafures may be delayed, till
'OiiH be iQefTL-doa] t
U ietmi 10 me to be of much more Importanct to de-
Mcrch^ma than lo hear them, and 1 fhjU iherefore
laoCoAcrfliontst thb Time expedient, which may ob-
EUMgreii Ei»d pfourEodc&TOUrs, the E<]uipmsat of the
Ut, ?utteney,
S.a,
Notwiiiiflanding the Art and Rlotjuence with which the Mr. PuU«r
Cnat of the Mcrchanu Pcntion hat been oppofed, I am
Miyetabic todifca^-erthat any thing is aSted unreafonable.
H^RcHented, or incoovcnient [ and I am confident, that oo
Ral ObjeH oa caa have beet orcr-Iook'd by the Geottemea
*bo have (]-oken ^gainl) it,
' I hare tpent. Sir, thirty fire Vean of my Life in the
hrliaamt. and knew that Information has alwayiupon im-
^3ftallI Qutlliont been willingly receivediand it cannot fure>
^be doubfod that ihe Pettiioncri are belt able to inform ai
afaafil Dulinefi. and to Judge what will be the right Me-
dndof leconciling the Sailun to the public Service, and of
fcflplyiag our Klt^;* without injuring our'l'rade.
* Tbcir j^bilitici and Imporuncc have beco hitherto fo
JCwfalty acknowleilged, that no Parliament hai yet rcfufed
to anrt>d to their Opinion, and (urely we ought not to be
inbitioui of being the tifll Houfcof the Rcprcfencaci^'Mof
the People, tku h&t rcfuTcd aa Audience to the Merchanti,
• WiUi
( 302 )
Anno 14, Geo. ' With regard to the Expedient! of delay tpg the I
IL 1740 theprefent Conjun^lare; he mulUhiok very contempt
|/"V''\^ of the Petitiontrs, who imagines that they htv? noil
oflfer that will counter-balance a Delay of two Daj
jnuft entertain an elevated Idea of the Vigilanceznd A
of our Enemies, Enemies never before cmioeoc for £
tion, if he believes that they can gain great Advant
fo fhort a Time.
* The chief Reafon of the Oppofittoa appeari, i
. not to beeither the Irregularity or Inexpediency of \
them, but the Offence which fome have received fi
irreverent Mention of the Power of ImpreiEng; a
which never can be mestioaed without Complaiat (
tclUtion.
* It Is nor, indeed, impoflible that they may intni
prefent to the Houfe, howtnuch the Sjilors are op|
how much our Commerce is impeded, and how mu
Power of the Nation is exhauiicd by this croel k
They may propofe to {hew that Siilon, not having the
of their Voyages, nre often hurried through a fudden <
of Climates from one Extreme to another, and that 1
can be expe£led from fuch ViciOi:ude!, but Sicknefa,
nefi.nnd Death. They may prcpofe, that to havcji
ved from the South may be pleaded as an Exempiia
an immei^i^te Voyage to the North, and that the!
may have fome time to prepare himfcif for fo great
teration, by a Rcfidcnce of a few Months to t tu
Climate.
* If this (hould be their Intention, it cannot, in B
nion, Sir. be call'd cither unreafunabie, (ir difrcfpefil
will their Atlcgatiors becafily difproved.
* But it is inlinuated that their Grievances are prope
■s aiTeA them only st ditlind from the relt of the Con
and that they have notiiing to corapUin of but a tei
Interruption oftheii private Advantiige,
* I have, indeed, r.o Idea of the private Advann
legql Treaccr. For unlcfj, Sir, we ncglefl our Dutj
viding that no Commerce (hall be carried on to tkc
znent of the Public, the Merchants Profit inuft betb
of the Nation, and their Intereils in(eparab]y combiv
* It may, liowever, be poflihie, that the Merchai
like other Men, prefer their immediate to their gie
vantage, and may be impatient of a painful Rene
necelTary to prevent a more grievous Evil. But U
cenfure them by Sufpicion, and punilh them tor
which it is only pofliblettiey may commititetui. Sir,
have all the Certainty that can be obtaioed, ud all
( 303 )
1 Aodience j let us neither be fo pofitive as not to receive Anno 1 1, Geo
obniKitioni nor fo rigorous as not to litt^n to Entrrncies. H' '74^'
* If [be MerchantJ h^ve nothing to offer, nothing but OOTN^
ZoBipUinn; and can propofe no better Menlures than tbofe
vUch they lament : if thrir Arguments Oiould be found to re->
ptdftnly their prefent Intrrell, and to be formed upon nar-
«v Views and prirntc Purporei, it will be eafy to de:eft the
'■poftiire^ and rejeA it with the Indignation ic fhall deferve;
lor will our Proceedings be then ceniuird by the N:ition,
ildch requires not that the Merch.ints fl>ou1d be implicitly
■Bercd, though it exprds they (hon!d be heard. Let us at
M hi*v a Convention, chu' we OiouId not be able to con-
idt a Treaty.
* I koow not. Sir, why we have sot tnken cnre to obviate
U thefe Difficulties, and to remove the NccrHity of t 'ctittons*
Mm, Searches and tmpreni-s, by the plain and eify Me-
Mofa Voluntary Regifleri by retaining fuch a Number of
Imm as may properly be rcquifite upon fudden Emefgen-
MtL Would not the Nation with more ChcarfdlneCs contri-
■k Half-pay to thofe wtto are daiiy labouring for the public
iiri, tbaa to the Caterpillars of the Land-Service, that grovir
m i» I^zJDCfa, and are difablcd only by Vice ?
* Let ten thoufand Men receive daily a fmall Salary, upon
hWhioathat they fhall be ready, whenever ca lid upon, to
Ine in tbe Service of the Crown, and the Diffi:alty of
KkitbI Preparations will be at an End.
^t Tkat it i> neceffiry to exert ourfelves on this Occafion,
■dioftrike outfome Mcafures for fecaringthe Dominion of
IpOcean, cannot be denied by any one who conftders that
"ihave now no other Pretentions to maintain ; that all our
on the Continent, at whatever Expencc gained and
], is now in a manner loft, and only the Reputation
' naval Strength remains to prcTtrveus from beinjj tra-n-
land infulted by every Power, and from tinding Spxniiirds
fKnry Climate.*
I Sir William Yonge.
P The Violence and Severity of Imprrfies. fo ofren and Sir Wi'Jiani
I |intbetically complained of, appcira to be now nothing 1^0"S^-
Ihc thu a Punilhment inflidcd upon thofc who ncg'eA or
Mr to receive the Encouragement ofTtreil with the uimoll
l^cnditf by the Government, nnd decline the Service of
|HP 'Coontry from a Spirit of Avarice, OblUnacy, or Re- -
kvcnt.
* Thnc fnch Men deferve fome S^veriries, cannot be
ibccdf ud therefore a Law by wuich n'j Peual^y fhould be
cna^cd.
( 304 )
Annoi4, GeoenaAed, woald be imperfeA and tDcBeauI. Tb«
1 •V^V-J *'°''* ^^'* of all Liws is to be enforced by Rewan
^■^ ' ^^ Side, and Punifliments on the other, that every Pa
be influenced, and even our Weaknefs made inOru
the Performance of our Duty.
■ Iq the Bill before us no PuDilhment is indeed ei
creed, becaufe the Sailors who ftiill difrcgard it,
left to their former HardOiips, from which thofe
jgage volunurily in the Service of the Navy are ei
* Why (o many Rewards and fo much Violence
. aeceflary to allure or force the Sailors into the p
vice, I am unable to comprehend. . For, cxceptin
den Change of Climates which may doubtlefs fometi
on Dilteraperi, the Service of the King hai i
Tantages which are not common to that of the Met
* The Wages in the Navy are indeed lefi, but
to be remembered, that they are certainly paid,
the Sailor ii in lei's Danger of loiing by a Ten
"Wreck, the whole Profits of hii Voyage, beca
can preferve his Life, he receives his Pay. Bat
Voyages, the Seamen mortgage their Wages, as
for [heir Care, which, if the Ship is lolt, thtj
demned to forfeit.
< Thus, Sir, the Hardlhips of the Navy appe
great when compared with thofe of the Mercbui
as they have been hitherto reprefented ; and I i
that if Counfellori were to be heard on both I
Meafutes taken for fupplying the Fleet wonld be
be rcafondble and juA.
Sir John Barnard rofe to fpeak, when Mr. FoD
Order, and proceeded thus.
S I K,
Mr. Foi. * It is well known to be one of the Handing am
ble Orders of this Houfe, that no Member Ihail k
in a Debate on the fame Quellion, except when, i
Freedom, we refolve ourrelves intoa Committee.
Queftion, the Honourable Gentleman has already fp
cannot therefore be heard again; Without fach a Tn
of oar Orders ai mull inevitably produce Confufioi
Sir John Barnard,
S I ft.
Sir John < I know not for what Rea(bn the Honoorable (
*•''"'*• apprehends any Violation of the Order o( the I
M I have not yet ipoken opon the prefeot Qnefti
( 305 )
MfaabMd ftight tobe heardi a Right which that Genti«- Anno 14. Geo
1 cuaot take away.' lV^V^N^
William Yonge. ^^
Sit.
I know BOt by what fecret Dininflion the Gentleman sir-vriUiam
rts in hit own Mind this Declaration, which, 10 the yonge.
iHeafe muft appear very dlfHcutt tobe defended; for
Mnft, before w( can admit it, allow our Memories to hnve
I ni, and our Eyes and Gnrs to have been deceived.
Did be not, as fnon -m the Ciaufe before us was read, rife
laienihe CharaQersof the Petitioners, and their Kighc
' AtteotioD of the Houfe ? Did he not dwell upon their
e, their Abilities, and their Integrity : and enforce,
bUiafnl Eloquence, every Motive to the Reception of
ihlilion ? How then can he afli;rt that he has not fpokea
inrefent Debate^ and how can he expeA to be heard a
ll^ne, fmce however his Eloquence may pleafe, and
EAlgnments convince, that Pieafure and Conviction can-
X^m be obuined, without infringing the Itanding Orders
rfcHoore.*
Mr. Speaker.
St a.
It is not without Uneaiinrfs that I fee the Time of the Mr. Speaker.
*'Ti and of the Pulilic, wafted in fruitlefs Cavils and un-
Controverfies. Every Gentleman ought now to
__.. _ that we are confulting iipon no trivial Qucllion, and
ait Expedition ik not lefs neccfTirythnn Accuracy. Itcan-
■Ibe denied, Sir, [to Sir John Barnard] that you have aU
Mily fpoken on this Qucllion, and chjt the Rules of the
Bmb do not allow you to fpcik a fccond Time.*
Sir Robert Walpole.
S 1 a,
■ I tm ftr from thinking the Order of theHonre fo facred. ^'^SST*
Bihai it may not be neglected on fome important Occafions i * ^^
■I if the Gentleman has any Thing to urge fo momentous,
ftt, IB bis own Opinion, it outweigns the Regard due to our
lUei,! IhttI willingly confcntthat he ihalt be heard.'
Sir John fiainard.
Sir,
^ * I an far from being inclined to receive as a Favour, what,
■ By own Opinion, I m.iy claim as a Right ; and dciire not Bani^?
^ Dwe the Liberty of Speaking to the Condcl'ccnfion of the
">|kt Honoanble Gentleman.
' What I bave to urge is no lefs againfl the Bill in genenl
AMtbepafxicuUrClaaic aow immediately under our Confi-
Vol. VU. R X deration.
( 3o6 )
Anno t4t Ceo deration, and tho' tbe Petition ihoald relatt likeivi
11.1740. whole Bill, I cannot dircover why wefhoald rcfafei
C^'N^^O ' Petitions from Men of much inferior Rank, a
Intereft is niucb lefs cIoTely conneAed with that of t
have been thought neceflary to be heard, nor is O.
Individual to be injured or reftrained withoat being
to offer bis Argumenu in hit own Favour. Even
ocymen Shoemakers, one of tbe lowefl ClafTes of
manicy, have been permitted to bring thlir Coun
Bar^ and rcmonftrate agaioft the InomvcDiencies
they were afraid of being fubjeOed/
Mr. Winnington.
Sir,
Mr. Winning' ' I Bm always willing to hear Petitions, when n
ten. drawn up, and regularly fubrcrib*d,bntcan by nol
cover that this is a real Petition, for I have he
Names affixed to it, it i) therefore s Rirqueft from
and by rcjeding it no Man is refufed. It may, fo
be difcover'd, be drawn up by the Gentleman who
and perhaps no other PeifoD may be acquainted w
Mr. Hay.
Si a,
Mr. Hay. ' ^^ ■*• i" ^7 Opinion, neccflary that a Petit
Name of the Merchants of London ttiould be
by the whole Number, for if only a few fiiould
Names to it, bow does it appear that it is any ifa
than an Apprehenfion of Danger to their own part
tereft, which perhaps the other Part, their Rivals
may cooGderas an Advantage, or at leaA regard w
fcrence. This Sbfptcion is much more reafonabl
Petition is fubfcribed by a fmaller Number, who ma;
imagined to have partial Views, and DeGgns not wt
mient with the Intereit of the Public'
Sir Charles Wager.
Sir,
Sir. Charles ' If I am rightly inform'd, another Petititm it
Wager. i^y feveral eminent Merchants, that this Claufe ma;
Part of the Bil) ; and ceruioly they ought to be
wellas li.e prefent Petitioners, which will o:cafion
unntrcclTury Delays, and therefore I am againft the
Mr. Campbell.
Sir,
Vr Campbclf. « I agree with that Hon. Gentleman that if 1
charts aic .lii/iv)ed in Opinion upon this Poiiit,
i)t:'jh: to be heard as well as the o^ber, and hope 1
C 307 )
(0 I Rerolution for chat Purpofe. For I fliall in- Anns 14, Geo
\j promote every Propofal which tends to procure the ^'' '74^-
Iflfbfmation in all Affjirs that (hall cotne before us.' C/'^V**^
' Tin the Qoeftion was pat. That the further Conlide-
flfthe Report be adjourn'd for two Days (in order to
the MercbiniO and it palled in tbe|Ne£atire, Ayes
itf, Noei 196.
2tm likewife moved, that Claufe A, which limits Sea-
ital Wiges in the Merchants Service at 35 s. per Month,
kicjeAed : After Debate, it pafTcd in the Negative: On
'.•Stnfioa, Ayes 127, Noes 183. Refolved, that Claufe
i do Band a Part of the faid Bill.
(h the Report the eleven Claufes of Severity were given
■ without any Divilion, and a Claufe was added, viz.
MMed that nothing in this Bill be conftrued to extend to
»Contra£ts or Agreements for the Hire of Seamen [or
■i employed as fuchj in Voyages from Parts beyond
it Seit, or to Great Britain.
(Meied, That the Bill with the Amendments be in-
pfid.
The 16th. Read a lirfl time, a Bill for enlarging and re-
' fdnng the Trade to the Levant Seas.
[ Kcad a fecond Time, a Bill tocontinue an A& for Relief
■fDnfalors, with refpea to the Imprifonment of their Per-
fal I and two fubfequcnt A&s for explaining and amending
Alfane; and alfo tocontinue an Ali for [he free Importa-
in, of Cochineal and Indico.
'n ■ Committee, went thro* the Bill for continuing the
Stfa open Salt) and upon Red and White Herrings.
Read a third Time, and pafled the Bill to fupply fonie
OeftQt in the Laws for repairing and rebuilding County
Bridges : and for repairing, enlarging, erecting, and pro-
lUiag Houfes of Corrcftion ; and for paOlng Rt^gues and
VanSonds : Ordered it to the Lords.
Read a fecond Time the Bill for the Improvement of the
IhiO&Aare of Woollen Broad Cloth, and to prevent Abu-
fa in iDaking of the fame.
The 17th. Agreed to the Report of the Bill to indemnify
PiQMffaint Purchafers of Eflates of Papilb, againit the Pe-
adties or Forfeitares Papilli are liable to for noc having en-
Itfled their Eflates, &c. with feveral Amendmints : Or-
faed it to be engrolTed. Read a firll Time-, a Bill to pre-
nat fbme InconvenicRcies arifing fiom Infurances of Ships.
Agreed to the Report of the Bill fur continuing the Di>
tin Bpoa Salt, &c. Ordered it to be ingrofud.
. Took into Confidcration the AmenOments nude by thf
Rr 2 Im. .5
( 30^ )
Anno 14. Geo. Lords to the Bill to 3 mend the L»w concerning cobubh
J^h^^^i Recoveries, and to explain so Aft 29th of K- Charlei II.
^'^^r"**^ for prevention of Frauds r.nd Perjuries, fo far a» the bni
relates to Eltalcs, per auier Vie: And agreed to them, ■■i.,^.
made ;ir.ot!',er Amendment thereto. Ordered it to the Loid^M
for their Concurrence.
In.i Cummirtee, went thro* the Weflminfter-firidge-BtlK^
with fevcrnl Amendments.
In a Commitcee, went thro' the Bill for the better Rt^s-*
fervation of the public Roads of England, with fevc
Amendments.
The iSth. Agreed tothe Report of the Bill to continue!
A£l for Relicfof Debtors ; and alio to continue an AAfortl
free Tmporution of Cochineal and Indjco : Ordered it lo t»^
ingrcfli'd.
Read 2 third Time, and pnfled the Salt Bill.
Read a third Time, and paffed the Bill to indemnify PrO'
teftant Purchafers ofEllatcs of Papilii, againU the Peiuliies
or Forfeituics PapiRs are liable to for not having tnrolltti
their Eilates, in purfuanre of an Afb ^d of K. GeorgjC I,
f I r thst Purpofe: Ordered it to the Lordi.
The '9th. 7'aok into Canfiderition the Report of ibB
'Welltrinfl.-r'Bi-idgc-BIM, and made a Progrefi therein.
The zctS. Read a third Time, and pafled the Bill M
continue an kSt for Relief of Debtors, with refpcA to ibi
Imprironnicnt of their Pcrfons ; and atfo to continue an AA
for the ImpurtntioR of Cochineal and Jndico : Ordered it n
the Lords.
Read a fccond Time the Bill for regulating the Trade to
the Levant Seas.
In a Committee, went thro' the Bill to amend » AH
6:h of K. George 1. relating to the AAurance of Ships apcM
Bottoniry, wi;h feveral Amendments.
Orucred, That the S;:amcns Bill be read a third time u
Mondiy next.
The 21 fl. Ordered, That the Merchants tradiog lo the
Levant Sca<, do hy before the Houfc. an Account of the
Number cf Ships employed in the faid Trade ibr 3a Ycua
pafl, anJ ti.e Tonnage thereof.
R0V3I A^T-rir Wr. Speaker repotcd. That the Houfc bad attended Hit
Ri-.un to liivc- Majtlly in ihe Houfe cf Peers, where hi> MajeAjr wai'
ral Bills. plcaffd to give the Royal AfTent to,
1. Alt Act fo.- continuing the Dutiei upon Malt, Munii
Cyder and Perry, ic.
2. All .\(li to prohibit the Exportation of Com. Gnin,
(Rice cxccpicil) Meal, Malt, Flour, Bread, Bifcait. Stirchp
Beef, Pork and Bacon, till December 25, 1741.'
3. Att
C 309 )
(. An A& for punilhing Mutiny and Defertion. Anno 14, Geo
4. An AA CO indemnify Perfons who have omitted to I1-1740.
■ke Che Oaths. &c. V-/^VX^
c. An Afl for continuing the Duties upon Salt, ind od
Hnrings, to March 25, 1753.
6. An aA 16 indemnify Froteftant Parchafers of Papilts
Elun, &c.
J. An AA to prwent the Sealing and deftroyingof Sheep
other Cattle.
8. Ad A&. for licenfing the Imponition of Vidual from
Ittlud, kc. to Scotland, in time of Scarcity.
9. An Ad to explain an AA 3d of K. James I. for the
Kttorery of Small Debts, and for relieving poor D^ton
iiJLoadon.
.0. An AA to prevent Incoovenicnciea uifiog from De>
liyiof Aufes afur liuie joined.
II. An A& to amend the Law, concerning common Re*
csMries ; and to amend an A&. 29th of K. Charlei II. Ar
^Rfeation of Frauds and Perjuries, fo &r ai the fame relatea
lo Elates, ftr auttrVit.
Alio 10 II Road A£ls, to 9 other public, anrf to 22 prl-
VttcAOs.
The Z3d, the engrofled Bill for the Increafe and Encon-
■Wtmenc of Seamen was rend according to Order, whea
Mr. Digby role and fpoke as follows :
Si «,
• I have a Claufe to be offered to the Houfe as neceflar7 Mr- IM|hr.
>0 be inferted in the Bill before as, which was put into mjr
C&id) by a Member, whom a fudden Misfortune has made
■aiUe to attend his Duty, and which, in his Opinion and
^iae, is of great Importance, and I Ihall therefore take the
CJbeny of reading it.*
»• Be it enabled that every Seaman ofrfrlng himfelf to
bne his Majefly, fliall, upon being refufed, rccf ive from
fadi Captain, Lieutenant, or Jufticeof the Peace, a Certifi-
^K, fetttng forth the Reafons for which he is refufed,
Mich CertilRcatc may by produced by him, as an Exemp-
EioB from being feiaed by a Warrant of Imprefs."
< I hope the Keafonablenefs and Equity of this Claufc U
^iBGoatefiably apparent that it will find no Oppofition ; for
Nrfcat can be more cruel, unjull, or opprcfllve, ttutn to punilh
kin for Neglefi of a Law which they have endeavoured to
Itef . To what Purpofe are Rewards oliered, if they are
kucd to tbofe who come to claim them ? What is . it lefs
km Theft, and Fraud, to force a Man into the Service who
iBaJd willingly have entered, a&d fubjeA him to Hardlhipa
without
( 310 )
Anno 14, Geo without the Recompence which he miy juftly demand fraa
11.1740- thefolemn Promifes of the Legiflature."
l/VNJ Sir Charles Wager.
Si R.
Sir Chirles * T** '1*'* Claufe, which the Gentleman has reprerent
Wiger as fo reafonable and ju(l, ObjcAions may, in my Opinioih^
be eaftly made, of which he himfelf acknowlc tge the Korc^^
The great Obflruflion of public Meafures is P.irtialil)d*>-
whether Irom Friendfhip. Bribery, or any other Motive-
againft Partiality alone the Claufe which is now offtrred M:
Uvciled, and indeed it is fo dangerous an Evil, thu it c<inn^^i
be obviated with too much Caution.
* But this Claufe, inflead of preventing private Carre- ^■
pondcnce, and illegal Combinations, has an evident Tcr^ -
dency to produce them, by inciting Men to apply with pr^r*'
tended Offers of Service to thofe who are before ruborncil c-^
Tcfufc them, then make a ftlerit of their Readinefi, and d^ '
mand a Certificate.
■ By fuch Artifices Multitudes may exempt themfelvr^
from the Imprels who may be known to be able Sailors, eves*
by thofe that condutl it, and may, under the ProicAion of ^
Certificate fallaciuuny obtained, laugh at all Endeavours t0
engage them in the public Service.*
Mr. Digby.
S 1 R,
Mr "DiRhv ' If this Authority, lodged inthc Hand^of tho-le who are
proposed in the Claufe to be encnilicd wiih ir, be in Dan.
gtr of being executed without due Regard to the tnd for
which it is gr.-ir'cd, Jet it be phced wtiere there is neither
Temptation ror Opportunity to abufe it. Let the Admi-
rally alone have the Power rf grmting fuch Certificates, the
Oilicers of whiJi uill be :ib)e to juJgc whether the Siilor ia
really unfit for the Siirvice, and deiiv>.-r thofe whom Age or
AcciJcrts Iiave dil.ib.'cd from the 'I'crror of ImprefTe; i for
fureiy, hr tliat 1* fit to ferve. when taken byViolence, ij no
Icfs (i'j;!:fied when he enters vo^unEarily, and he who could
no: b^: ;>fimi;:td when he tcmicred himielf, ought not to be
dnggc".! aw.'.y, when perliaps he has contracted for another
Vo/;!ge.'
Sir Chsrks Wager.
S I K,
j.;_ Charles ' '' '°' ^f^'''""^**- ^-^'^ proper to place fuch Authority ia
Wii^tr. ^"^^ Ofiicuri of cii» Adni'-arty, th:;!! in any other ; but it doei
not apptar tlir.E tiie Eenti;; wli-jh the Sailors may receive
from ii, to wli itcv- r iiant- i: if criru;led. wiil nor be over-
balanced by the lr<j'jrywh.chUx Public will probably fuffer.
» SiiJora
(3")
• Sa!!ors are frequently levietj in remote Parts of the Anno 4, Geo.
iogdom ; io Ports where the Admiralty cannot fpcedily U- 743-
! informed of the Reafons for which thofc that may peti- Vi/Y"^,^
on f^r Certificates have been refuted, and therefore cannot
juA litem Kiihout Danger of being deceived by fraudulent
Account).
'The Grievances fur which the Remedy is propored
Blot frequently occur; fur it is not probable that in a
Hm cf navut Preparations any Man <iua]ified for the Ser-
ite Ihould be rejefled, fiuce the Officers gain nothing by
keii RefufaL*
Mr. Hay.
S t n,
* It u very poflibte that thofe Inftances which ni^iy be }jir. Utj.
ndoced of Men, who have bcL-n imprefled by one Officer^
bs they have been reje^ed by another, may be only the
Wtquences of the high Value which every Man is ready
ifanpon his own Abilities. For he that offers himfelf,
sdoobt, demands the higheft Prxmium, tho' he be rot an
bh Sailor i and if rejcftcd, t^nd afterwards impreJcd as a
rmice, thinks himlelf at Xiberty to complain with the
cd importunate Vehemence, of Fraud, Partiality, and Op<
vl&on,'
The Quellion being put, was refolved in the Negative,
■uA unanimoufly.
Then Mr. Sou:hweIl offered a Claufe, importing, Thatw-jQujij-^i
lSlilors,whu ftinuld titke Advance-Money of tfaeiVlerchanta,
■lid be obiigeu to petfurm their Agreements, or be liable
be uken up by any Magiltrate or JulHce of tiie Peace,
Adeemed Defencrs, except they were in his Majcfty's
ift of War.
He was fcconded by Lord Gage as follows :
S I K,
■ As this Claufe has no other Tendency than to promoteLord Gage.
tintereft of the Meicliancs, without obiirufling the pub-
f reparatiuni ; as it tends only to confirm iegal Con, rafts,
[ ftcilitatc.tii't Commerce from whence the Wca tn and
wer at thi^ Nation unfc:, I hiipe it will readily be admit-
i as we may, by adding this SanAion to thu Contrafli
le between the Merchants ami Siilers, in fome Degree,
UKC the Obllruilions whcrcwitb we have cmbarraiTcd
de by the other ClauTes.*
s:r
( 3" )
Annot4,Ge6. Sir Charles Wa«r.
II. 1740- „ *
Ky\'\j Sir,
SirCharleB * Tliis Claufe is unqueflionably reafontblrt but nut i^
Wafer. cei&ry, for it is to be found already in an Aft made fore;
Encouragement of the Merchaata, which is tlill in For
and ought, whenever any fuch Fraads are committed, t»
rigorouily obferv'd.
Sir Robert Walpole then deGred thae the Clerk vai^lMM
read the A&, in which the Claufe being accordingly fouacf^
Mr. Southwell withdrew his Motion.
Then the Queflion was put. Whether the Bill lor rb*
Encreale and Encouragement of Sailors do pafs, which tva'
refolved in the Affirmative, 153 againft 79.
Agreed to the Report of the Wetlminller-Vridge-Bill^ ^
Ordered it to be ingrofled.
The 24th. In a grand Committee, went thro' the Bill W
explain Part of an AA latb of Q. Anne, for proridingi
public Reward for fuch Perfon or Perfons as {hall dircorcr "^
the Longitude at Sea, with feveral Amendments.
Read a 7'hird Time, and palTed the Bill for the better
regulating the Manufacture of Cloth in the Well-RidiB|
of Yorkshire : Ordered It to the Lords.
Agreed to the Report of the Bill for better PrefervatiM
of the Public Roads : Ordered it to be ingrofTed. ■'-
In a grand Committee, took into Confideratiou tbe Pe-
tition from South- Carolina, in behalf of the diftrelTed Inhir
bitantsof Charles-Town, and came to Rcfotutioa.
The 25th. Agreed to the Report of Vefterday'a ReToIa-
tion, viz. Refolved, That the Province of South-Caroli'u
has been greatly weakened by the late dreadful Fire on tbe
1 8th of November laft ; and that fome Proviflon fhoald be
made for the refettling the Inhabitants thereof: Referred to
the Committee on the Supply.
Agreed to the Report of the Bill for czplainiDjaa AA
for AlTurance of Ships, and Merchandizes at Sea, aad for
lending Money upon Botto'mry : Ordered it to be ingroQed.
In a Committee, went thro* the Bi:i for the Improvemeac
of the ManufdAure of Woollen Broad-Cloth, &c.
The z6th. Read a lirft Time, a Bill for the morexafjr
and effeftual Conviflioa of Perfoas returning from Tianf-
portation.
Read a third Time, and pafted the Bill for the better
Prerervation of the public Roada in Engbutd : Ordered it
to the Lords.
{ B'3 )
II a grintf Comiftittee, took ioto Confiileracioa the Eill Annul 4, Gen,
^b enUrging and xtgaUtiug the Trade to the Levant-Seas ; H- J749.
' ilfo the feveral Papen and Accounts concerning the
e: And a Motion wai made, aad the Quedion being put,
tUr. Speaker do leave the Charr, it pailcd in the Nega-
^w a Dlvifion> Ayes 37, No s 62. RIade a Progrefs,
iMpracetd on the 8tlt of April ; then adjourned to the
of April.
'.^«M[i^/l. Reads third time, ^nd palTcd the Bill for fur-
'7 ^^P^ the chwf Ports and He;iil-Lar.d3 on the Coaft of
It-Britain and Ireland, and the Plimatioos belonging
00^ for the more ejtaA Determination of the Longitude
lUtiORle thereof *. Ordered ic to the Lords,
f Adjourned the Report of the Bill for the Improvement
'if ike Jkfanufiifltire of Woolicn Broad-Cloth, for a Month.
Jtewl ■ third liine, and paiTtd the Bill for rellraining and
F •vcflting feverkl unwarrantable Schenaei and Undertakings
4ttc Plantations 10 America f . Ortlered it to the [.ords.
Kctd a fecdnd time, the Bill for thf more cffciflual Con-
|Bion of Perfuns rcEurnir.g from TranfporLition
TTkt 3d. Read ■ liecind unit;, and comrnitced the Bill to
Mrreni Inconvi-niencies aHfmg from infurances of Ships :
MX Divifion, Ayes 6}. Noes 2Z.
The 6lb. Read a third time, and pnfTcd the Bill cvrri-ible
fte CommiHioners for buildinp WfiLini.>iiur-?]riHi>c to r;LiliB
tt nrtbn- Sum of Mo'py by way of Lottery, tinvjrds fmiih-
ia^thc faid Bridge, &c. Ordered if to tiie i....iis. In a
teiad Commr::tie, tooU ; .^ ^^'cnli !';"^''on th-: Bitl to pre-
Wttfome lnconvenic.-'iC:r: -uilicg fruni Inlurancesof Sh'ps:
J^A rttd a Pctitior of the Corporstion of t^.e London- •'\frur-'
aaec againil the Bill. And a Motion was made, and the
fjnriliiT- put. I'hxi the further Confidcration thereof be de-
fined for a Month %•
The 7th Received an F.ftimate of the Cha-ge of 1000
DMlifli Horfe, and 50CO D^nifh Foo: i Lritiiti P:iy, from
MBrch the 28:h lall, to DcciT-ibcr tht 25(11, 1741.
Vol. II. S f Alfo
• Tiir BiUtKM rteia fii-fi lime, en February tbt ^th, Imt
At 7itit ivai itUtrtd 9H the d-iri Rtaiing.
■|" TWr Rillvjai rtad a firfi time, en Ttb>uarj the I'jth,
isf tht Tit/e lirai allf c, -m ihi third blading.
J Thi Ihuft JiiiideJ, Afti 25, A'ict 8; but fevtm nan
WuwAtri btivg luawttJ tt ta.iie a Hvnje, •u:ithjut •mhiih thty
amM mt froce/d an Bufiatfif tht Biii dropt tj louf/t, and tit
Btarfitt^mriud.
( 3H )
Annoi4,Gco. A'fo an Kilimate cf the Charge of i264Hcrre, and iSTCo
II. i74'5- Foot, Hcffian Trcops, from March the zjth laft, toDecember
L/ir»J the z;th» 1741, with the Levy-Money and Subfidy (or ihe
fame.
The Sth. RejeAed a Petition of John Meres, Printer,
praying to be admitted to Bait without paying his Fees.
Mr. Speaker reported, I'hat the Houlc h^ attended hii
Klajelty in (he Houfe of Peers, where his Majefly waa
plealied to give the Royal Aftent to,
-^ _ An Ail to fupply fome Defcfls in the laws for repiirin
JvetVto fc«-i^°""*>'*^"'^B"* ^'"' f*P»'"ng ■"d providing Houfes -
nlBilla Corre^ion; and fbrpafling Rogues and Vagabonds.
An AQ. to continue three former A£ts for Relief of Dela-
tors, with refpe£l to the Imprifonment of their Pcrfons ; anif
sifo to continue an Aft fur the free ImporUtion of Cochi-
neal and Irdico.
An A& for continaing an A€t 7th of King George II. to
amend a former A& nth of King George f. for the better'
regulating the Manufaflure of Cloth in the Weil-Riding of
Yorkfhire. And to feven private AAs.
Afterwhich his Majelly was plmfediomakeamoftgnei-
ous Speech froan the T hrone as follows :
My Lords and Gentlemen,
Kins'a Speech " At the Opening of this SeOton. I took Notice to yoaof
^ the Death of the late Emperor, and of my RetoTution to ad-
here to the Eiigngements 1 am under, in order tothenain-
caining of the BiUancc of Power, and the Liberties of Eu-
rope, en that imporunt Occafion. The Afliirancei I received
from you, in return to this Communication, were perfeftly
agreeable to the Zeal and Vigour, which this Parliameet
has always e.xrrtcd,tn the Support of the Honoar and Inierdl
of my C'rov/n and Kingdoms, and of the Common Caiife.
< 'I'he W;<r, which has fince broke out, and been carried
on, ia part of the Auftrian Dominion!, and the varioat aad
cxtcnlive L'1niir.>, which are piil)licly made on the late Em-
{leror'.s Succeilion, arc new Events that require the Qtmoft
Cflrc And Aitcniion, as they may involve all Furope in a
bicotly U ar, and in Conftquence, cxrc^le the Dominions of
fucli I'rirces. a^ (hill take Part in {upport of the Pragma-
tic Siiflicji'. to imminent and inimcdlate Danger. The
Q>:i:': oi Iluiigary h-.a cirrady m.idc a Requifition of the
\?. .-Cf' .Mti., ixprtfiy fiij-jiiitcd hy Treaty ; and thereupon
I Iv::--: /tmnrdni cf ibeKiiigof Denmark, andoftheKio^
of &■ .-^ti, .:. l^nilyrsivc of Ihfit:-Ciiffel, their rctpeOiTB
Ui>::i'j; (.f i'i\T 'v, co;ifi;li.-.g o.*" 6000 Men each, to be in
rciidin;;!^ v^ laau.r r.T;uwtUi to the AlHltance of her Hur.ga-
iiaA
( 3^5 )
riaii MajeAy. T am alfo concerting fuch farther Meafurei Anno i^.Geo,
as niy obviate and difappoint all dangerous Defigns and At- i^>MO'
lenpu, chat may be forming and carried on in Favour of V^ir^y
mj aajaft PretenfioDi, to the Prejudice of the Houfe of Au<
fat. In this complicated and uncertain $tate of Things,
auy Incidents may arife, during the Time, when, by Rea.
At of the approaching ConcluBoB of this Parliament, it
JB^ be impoflible br me to have your Advice and AiliAance,
Vwh may make it qccciiary for me to enter into lUll larger
Zxpeocet, for maintaining the Pragmatic SanfticD. In 3
CMJoiiaare lb critical, I have thought it proper, to lay thefe
laportaat Conliderationa before you, and to defire the Coa-
Bmtnceofmy Parliament, in enabling me to contribute, in
At moll effeflual Manner, to the Support of the Queen of
Hoagiry, the preventing by all realonable Means the Sub*
verfian of the Houfe of Aullria, and the maiotiining the
lAeiuct and Balance of Power in Earope.'^
Gentlemen of the Houfe of Commons,
" I muft recommend it to you, to grant rac fuch a Supply
»Uj be requifiie for thefe Ends ; and the jull Concern and
Kadioef) which I have conHantly found in you, to mikeajl
MGcfliry Provifions for the Public Good, and ourcommop
^tity, leave me no room to doubt of the fame good Dif-
p^n and AffeAion in this Inflance.**
Uf Lords and Gentlemen,
" 1 am perfuaded, I need fay no more to recommend thefe
Canfiderations to you, which fo neccAarily arife from the
infeit Sitaation of Af&irs : I (hall therefore only add. That
l*htever Expences may be incurred on this Occafjon, {hall
* aaic in as frugal a Manner as poflible i and an Account
tfcttof lliall be laid bffore the next Parliament."
Wbereopon they rcfolved, That an humble Addrefs be pre-
fiwed to his Majcily, as follows.
• The Houiie on this Occafion prefcntcd the following A4'
in&.
Moft {tacious Sovereign,
■ We your Majelly's mofi dutiM and loyal Subje^s, Che Aildrefs i|
Conmona of Great Britain in Parliament aflTcmbled, beg Ktrturn.
LfiVe to return your iVIajefly our moft humble Thanks for
W Majefly's moll gracious Speech from the Throne; and
• Cxprefs our dutiful Senfe of your Vlaflelly's jull and due
Ecgard for the Rights and Intereil of theQuecD of Hungary,
■d for maintaining the Pragr:ati': Sanftion. We cannot
BC entirety concur with your Maj. I'y in the prudent Mea-
im, which yourMajefly if purftiing for the Support of the
S f 2 Commog
( 31^ )
Unno 1 4, Geo Comnon Ciafe, &nd for the Prcfeiration of the UbcTWi,
II. 1740. ^f^i the Balance of Power in Europe. We ackaowlidi^
^/"y"^*' your Majefly's Wifdom ind Refolotiob, in DOtfufieriag yoor*
^ ielf to be diverted from fletdtly perftrcring in your jull Par-
fofei of folfilling the Engagementl, whicK your Majefty kit
entered into with the Hoiife of AHllria ; and do afliire yev
Xlajelly, that io JuAice, and in Vindication of the HoaoV
and Dignity of the firitrlh Crown, tfaii Houfewill cficAnaHf
fbnd by and fupport your Majefty againft all JofDha tai
Atucki, which any Prince of Power, » RefepuncM if
the juft Meafures that your Majefly haa lb wilcly laka^
Jhall make upon any of your M^jefly'i Territoriet or Ds-
ininions, tho* not belonging le the Crown of Great Britia.
And we beg Leave further to aflure your Majefty, ifcu il
any future Events, which may arifc from this nncertaa
State of Things, and which rnay make itacccflary Ibryiw
Majeily to enter into ftill larger Expences, ycwr lukU
Commons will enable your Majefty to contribute, in tht
moft effi£lual Manner, to the Support of the Queen of Hm-
gary^ to the preventing, by all reafonable klcani. the Sib^
verfion of the Houfe oT Auflria, and to the maiataming itl
prigmatic. Sanation and the Libertiei and Balance of Popft
Europe.*
The qth. Referred his Majefty's Speech to the Qmw^
tee on the Supply.
The loth. The Honfe went toaddreft his Majefty at to
Palace at St. Jamcs^.
The t3th. Received the Report of his Ma jell's Aafiq
to their Addrefs. viz. *• I give you my Thanks for ifca^
tiful and loyal Addrefs. Your great Readinefs in cMbBA
me 10 make good my Engagements with the Queen of H»<
gary, and the Afliirancci ybu give me, not to fu|fer my fh
reign l^ominionsto be infulttd, on account of the Mcafuci
I am purfuing for the Support of the Pragaaiic SeaAia^
•re fuch evident Proofs of >uur juft Concern for mintaiMl
the Liberties and Balance of Power in Europe, and of yatf
great Rrgird for my Honour and Intcrcll, that you Mf .
depend upon all fuitab'e Re:urns from me, for Mt panictil>
Klark of your Affe£tion and Cor.JiJence in me?^
The (.iiDC Day a Motion was inide by Sir Robert Wat
pole, for granted an Aid of sco.cool. to the Queen of HV|
fiary, which he introduced with the following iXbatc :
S > K,
Sir ?,nheit * t'he Necrffity cf this Grant appears fo plainly bM'
|7aii'oIe the bare Mention cf the Purpol'ts for which Jt isa&cd. tlM
1 an fcatcciy conceive that its RckfonaUeocft c&o he U
f.tt^
I can dticover lo Prtncipln upon wMcb la Objec- AAnn
)t)ii> M^ii'-ntJK be fou:td«l. Qor tbe wait Argamejitf ^ '
'h lurh I -(IrdionjCin be iupported.
1 ib'c Ptiligi I >□»» cf public Faith, the
..»ikti N>ciuM uc uaitet), and ConCKlrnu:t<a
I ooDoc ruppofe any Man Iticlined ca iavitidate.
I'cflormsocc v( n.'cional Frotoileit an iaviolable
to h-.iXi *wi Tfeatie*. i» enforced at once by
acJ ju.iictr, ami ail laws botbof Heaven and Earth.
Pbblic i'rrtjy, Sir, like prirau Difhoorlly, mUatever
»fKii*ty Afl**n:igcs iimay proraifcor prodflce. ib alwijri,
tKr whole. Ute farcDt of Mifery. Everjr Man, how-
'u^ nufi tometimei wiQi for a Friend t and
., :.owcver poicnt, lland in nerd or an AUft
■.*li A<tt.u>cc> lubllii u}>oa mutual Coniidcnce, and Confi-
' can bx ^<.ui!u<ni only b)' uniaioied Integritjr,by kaotva
fuaMcf*, '-iitdaiiprovixl Veracity.
' Tbc ITc of Alliance!. Sir, hi*ia the lafl Age been too
■■cb r^ ' 10 be con[ellcdi it ia by Ixagtiei well
cMttn»L> 'i;lly obtccvcd, thu the W«k ire ddcndcd
aga.iaA tbc ^'.run^., that Buuftdi art fct to the 1'urbulcncc of
:icif" . :h»< thr Tnrrcm of Power is rell/ainrd, and Em*
<1 froat ihofe InanditionsoF War thai, in Tor*
jiJ the A'^orMioRoini. By Alliaivcei, Sir.tb*
Power ii maintained, and thotc Alarms and
I'i avoided, which mull arife from Vicil&iudci
lid the FiufluitioDt of petpetual Contcft.
lA tue lotereA of thii Natiou to cultivate tbe
lip of tlie HcuJc ot Aallri«, to proiefi us Rights,
it) SdCccjTioa ^ to inform it when miR^ken, and
:wiien aiucked, is alloued hy every Party Kvery
. i.jt the only Power that can fcnfibly injure
QUI Lonimcrct:. or lorading our Doini'
' ^^'. ■i^tinA which no Confederacy csn be fjritf
!h ihe Houlc of Auflria^ tbac canafio/d ui taj
.rll Bond of Allianceiis muloal InltttcS. Mao
^lioK him whom ihcy have all Keafon to ftar
tff whom they have beep gicatly injured, and
mkora it>rv r;il[)cd that so Oppoituniiy will be loll of
Mh£ hi> tncroichmrntf. Such i*lhe Sutte of thu Na*
titm and dI ttic AuAxUfii. We are e<]uaUy endangered by
ibe f reach Grcatfici'ii, and cqunlly animated againtl it by
htr*inn,'y Ammortiics, and ContcDi conunued fiom, one
Agi to anoitMt I we arc convinced that, however either may
^9 flatercd or C4rcSed, whiJe the other ji invaded, every
Blow
( 3'8 )
l^ppo 14, GcD.EIow is aimed at botfa, and that we are divided only titat p«
U- ^7^°t may be more cafi'y dcltroycd.
L^'V"'^ • For this Realbn we engaged in the Support of the Pn.
inatic SjA^ion, and ftipulaied to fecure the Imperial CTa
to the Daughters of AuAria, which wai nothing moreil
to promile, that we would endeavour to .prevent our i
Deflru£tion, by oppofing the Kxaltaiion of a Prioce
fbould owe his Dignity to the Freacb, and in Cunfequei _
of lo clofe an Alliance fecond all their Schemes, adniic ml
their C'laimf, and facrifice to their AmbiMon the Happine^
cf a great Part of Mankind.
f 6uch would probably be the Confequence, if the French
Ihould gain the Power of conferring the Imperial Cromv^
They would hold the Emperor io perpetual DependeaW^
would, perhaps, take PoiTcflion of his Hereditary DomiBF''^
ons as a Mortgage for their Expence, would awe him vrittp
the Troops which they fent under a Pretence of alSffiif
him, and leuve him only the Title of Dominion, ind tbi
fiiiadow of Empire.
* In this State would he remain, whilft bis fjrmidablf
Allies were extending their Dominions on every Side. H| ^
would fee one Power fubdued after another, and himleU -:
weakened by Degrees, and only not deprived of his ThronL '
becnufe it would be unncceti'iry to dethrone him ; or Im
would be obliged to follicit our Alliltance to break from hfa .
Slavery, and we Ibould be obliged, at the ucmoU Hazard,
and at an Expence not to be calculated, to remedy what k
is, perhaps, now in our Power to prevent with very little
pjilicuity.
^ I'hnt thit Danger is too near to be merely chimerical,
that the Qiiccn of Hungary is invaded, and her Pretenlioo la
the Imperial Dignity conielleJ, is well known ; it it thers-
fbre the lime for fulfilling our Engagements. ERg^genrotB
of the utmod Importance to ourfelves and our Polterity ; and
1 hope the Governmcrnt will not be accufed ofProfufion,
it' i'oT ihiec hundred thoufand Pounds the Libeitio of Eu-
rope Ihal! be prelerved,
< Vv e cannot deny this Grant without sJling in Oppofitiot
to our late Prufdtions of fupporting his Msjelly in hii £■•
dv'avcurb to maintain the Pr.-igmatic Sanation, and of affiftiBf
him Eo (icf<:nd his foreign Dutninions from any Injorics lo
which thole Endeavours fhou'd expofe them, for how aa
he without Farces defend his Dominions, or afiift his Ally ?
9; how cza he mainuin Forces without Supplies ;*
Mr,
*'!*" II. 1740-
/As ! have always endeavoured to aft upon Convic- ^^r. Sh-pt'er..
1/ my Duty, to examine Opinions before I admit
ud to {peak what I have thought the Truth, 1 do
£1/ change my G>nduA or retract my Ailertions, nor
fmrrrd (rom repeating my Arguments when I have
'tn fpcak, by the Remembrance that they have for-
Kcn aofacccfi^faL
Man when he in confideat himfelf, conceives
fabFc top*rfuade others, and imngines that their Ob-
procecds from other Motives than Reafon ; and that,
^Ii at oac tfme to gain over his Audience, he may
ifctttnl IB fome happier Moment, when their Prejudice:!
IfedtiSpateJ, or their Incerell varied,
ihr ihij Keafon though it cannot be {ufpefled that I
ED the Refcntment which I have formerly drawn
niyfellr by in open Declaration of my Sentiments,
M iTjard to Hanoverj -" I Hand up again, with' equal
\€mMe»Wf to make my Prote!tation> againll any Intcrpofi-
I ift the ASiiirs of that Country, and to avow my Diflikd
'At J^romile lately made to dc/end it. A Froniiil-, in-
it. in ^^y Opinion, with that important anu iiivio-
■La«, the Aft of SsttlementI A Promife, whicii, if it
tuive been ioreknown, would perhaps have for ever
Judo) from the Succtflion that illultriou^ Fanilly, td
rkich we owe fitch numberlel's BlellingE, fuch continued
feUttiy f
* F*r be it from me to inlinuatc that we can be too
^aarlul to ki^ M'lj^Hy, or coo zealous in cur Adherence to
^nn ( onry Ic a^ remember that true Gratitude confills iu
icai BcaciSis, in promoting the true Intercll ot him to viiom
we are indebted; :ind furcly, by haziiding the W'clfari: of
Gic&t Britain in Defence ofHanovcr, we fhill very liitlj
conliili the Advantage or promote :he Greatnefs cf our Kin^.
' It is well knuwn huw inccnfidcrablc in the Sij;iu of
ibofci by whom ;hc Sjcccflitin was cllablilh'J, Hanover ap-
peared, to cam^rif'm with Gre^t Britain. Thofe Men, to
wfaon even their Enemies havt Icldgm dcnJt.i Pnife fur
Knowledge and Capsicity, and who havi: bvva h 'o':dIy cc'c*
bratcd by many, who hav^ join'd in thK U?. Addrelt, ht
AorhoDcA Zeal, and the Love of their Country, cna^H,
tha:
. • ^!h.iiiig to hii Iftiag /«/ to the Trxtr in *lt Kr'^i 'f
George I.
Anlio
iT
It Co
U w
( 3*0* )
14, Gto (hit the King of Grc*t Britain Ihoulif
1740. portJint Tcrriiorirs, which ve hive fo
defend, 7.1 tlie lIa£arJ of our Hifpi/icU. It wi
their Ocfign thai oar S>'ivrrcjgn eiigtoftV,' bjr till
new Subjell!, a Care, which, hi they mfoiulil;
would artfe from GniiitKJc for Dignity ind Pa
rally coofeTt'i, OiDuItl in time foigt-t ikit Co
Einh. on which his .4nccflarv hid rrfi'fed,
Etedor of Hanover, bot as King cf Grcttl
Governor of a mighty Nation, and the Lor
taia'ioai.
• ft WM txpreny determined, thw th»
never be ioTclvcd in War fat the Defence of tJM
on the Continent ; and doutitlef^ the Umc ^o^H
ftnin'd u) front extending our CorqueAi in ^|
■which foroc Advantages might br rcwiv'd, oe%
Allexpei.five srd haufdous M^lorei, for the U'
Cones fi^di whnce no Benefit can be teafed.
• Nor are the Purpofo. Sir, for which M
demiaded, the only Ohjrfliotu that raxy beoW
for ihe Manner in which it i» a^ed, makci it
Ici.1 to delay it. The Xlinlfters Kive been fo Itttli
to Rrfufali rdat (bpy have forgof whca toafliw]'
and »[-<d the Treafure ol the Nation to h$
ihcra^ HbcDcvcrthcy thtll think ii ;* '
have dircovei'd fomc new O^parium
• It is nrcrfliiry that when a Supply
fiwwtd be infotm'd. Tome time before, of
mjuir'd. and of the Endn to which it h tol
every Mrmbrr may confidrr, at letfore, tl
iltc Meii'aiei ptopofcd. aod the Propordoa oF
Occaiion on which it is drmafidcd 1 that W n
what arc the moll proper Mcthodi of ratfiogit,
rnijut.'e with wh>t Wiilin^nefi bit CoflftJiecaui
it.
• Whether any Man b enabled by llti
peiience, 10 determine all thefc Quefliont
neoui Reflexion, I cannot decide. For mi
myfelF one of thofe, on whom Nitorr ha>
Facultiej. and therefore move that the CoeJ
Supply may be defertM for a tew Dayi.
pr«ik*d uponui, I fhtll vote againft k, b* _^
fully difcover all the Realoni for it, nor a!l tib**
which it may producr, and I think myiiilf 1
for wbat porpofc i give away the M
ewa.*
; a-* '
Mr \'ui*r. ■''
Sir, V
• Wtucerer iciy b« :!-e Ni-.viT.'y ■:• ri--.:i >'-j :-f>'.
ftigiaaiic S*aci.3n. ir »ai:;r*r :r.e •_■= ^i;.wr..- ^::^:,^
ml?M.i, cfwh-chi rc=e r.-j ,\',n :• de^.-.-: ^f<c^:-i.
nocing :be Neg nft. ;.«:;-e;ci r:: ■•:'.-:,- \:~ it ,■:■.: ^^i-,.
mxnEaemy, lo suihuzx ' c-r^ v.' n :; *i:v-.i\: im :.-
hSj:!i:y of i>uge.-. :o girri.jr. Dsj.t..; .;-: w.-..;.-. ^:c i-.ji
' The Eip<=i;rcy cfrrair: ir.irg i'rc 17-^uV i^: .-\;i.;:'a
tkc Imperial Tr.rcrr. ic is r.o; ^t j-f.'Vr : rc\".;Vi.\ ;j
l^n, becauie it does ret aj-res: t-.i: ji y ■ li-.i-r i-'jini i u
a^rtog to it. Tr?re my indeed re Wr: ;■;:-• o; it\:;-i
IMgni ard arftil M,-.ciii'..Ltion*, Wriyirs I'l-riu;'?. uvc.J
■If to affr.ghtthc Cur: jr.:oTrCi:ie'. or :hi- I'.ir:; ;nnn: ir,;.i
Gntt! i or DeligRS, which, like a Tiici: .-.:^d co-^r.^ J;,u
f*y Day produces, ir.::ainerai':e Accii'tntj uiiy iJ -'il.it :
■Uch may be diicuvcrcd, noc on'y bt-O'e ciic) .^rs i-.vc-
Okd, but before they are fuliy fuiuici.! ; ::t< ! uii^ch theii.--
faeve not worthy to engros mucii uf uur Acciitiun, or
ffCTluuIt the Wealth of the Pcop c.
' T|ie Pr^-gmaticS-in^ion is noiliing more than a ScieIc-
■m of the fmpcrial Dignity lipoii (he rlJ.Ii Diughccr
if tbe late Emperor and her Son ; aiJ if (lie has i.o 6vn,
fOB the Son of the fLcond JDargtiLtr; nor ii::s tl-.e Crown
■f Great Britain, by engaging tu luitpDrc t\\y. Sin-'tion,
^raniicd any thing niore tli.-^n to j^relervc this Ordor
hfSocccflion, which ro i'awcr at preicut is endrrivouring
b» interrupt, and which therefore at prelLnc rtrquirts no
ficlence.
■ The Oifpute, Sir, l}rtwe«n the King nf PrulTi:! and
ihc Qaeen of Hungary il of a diiTcrent kind, nor i'. it vur
Datj tocngngcin ir^ either as p3rtir.<> or JiKiges. lie lays
cUm to certain Terrtiortcs ufurpL*.!, as he iilit-tjcs. fium iiii
Anccllori by the Aullrian Fiimily, and ;llll:^t^, by h'ouf,
l^ii Ctaim which is equally valid, whitiier ilic Qu'.'cn l)c
laprefi or not. We h:ive no Right to limit hi:. jJuiuini<
aR^ or Obligation to examine ihe Jiiilicc of his Ui-m.init' .
If be J) only endeavouring lo g^in wh.it h*ii> ba'ii f.ictiily
•ith held from him, wlrit Right have wc lo uljluud his
Dulcruking > And if the Quren cin Ui-.-w a hcrctcr I'lt'c,
fte u, like itll other Sovereignh, .11 iiln-ny t.i ni.iint>iin ii ;
*or are we ncctftirily to crefl ourfclvis iiitu Ju'.-j^ci between
SoTCrcigHs, or Dillribiitor> ct iJominiun,
' The Contell feems to hive very li;t'c ligation i<: 'i-';
r ragmatic Siaflioo ; if the Iwing of i'.uUialuccccds, he u: i
Vol, VII. '1 t <.<in
( 321 )
Anno i~4. Geo contribute to fupport it i and if the Qu«n It ibh
II. i7iO. itrxte his Dcfigiis, (he v/ill be loo powerful to i
\..."/V%) AOitlancs.
• Hut tho", Sir, the Pra^mi;ic Sanftioi were it
of Violation, are we to ::;i!.ii Lp -lone in defence of
o:I»;r N't'!.'!!'., equally engai;tu v.'ri\ oiirfelves in
and by I'lea'.ies.fit Uilf tu look upon the Contetl, ai
thoic Advantages ol Pcare wiiicli we irtHfcreetl
awny ? Are v-x able to mainiam it wiihoui AJiltare
ivc to cxl. lilt mir Coil!';')', snJ juio our Po;'cntj
(ecuticn ii .' bopelef; i'r"jet1, to fpend what Cin
icp.id, :inL lo fight witli (,tr[:i:Ety cr'a Difcat ?
• Tl'.i: Liutch, whole Kngr-.j^.tmcnts and whofe fn
the (-.MTtc ns our own, have nut yet mrit!- :;nv Ac
their Kxpcr.ces, nor Auijmcnt^uijn of thi.ir Trci
does a liiigle Potentate oCFjrc^L-, liowevcr united
Alliances to the Houfe of Aiiilri.i. cr ..ov.tfvcr endat
Revolutions in the Empire, nnp'.'.ii to roufc at the .-'
of Alarm, or think himfelf oliji^eo to j>rovukc En
whom he is no: yet injured.
• 1 c^:inot thircrore perfw,i(!e myfelf that we arc
up fngle ir\ the Defence »f the Prjgniatic Snnclioo,
the Qianet of other.', or live "in perpetual War,
Neighbours may be at JYacc.
r < I (Ivill always think it my Duty to difburfe ti
Monty v^'ih the utmoH Fiirfiinony, nor ever iriend
the niotl jircflirg Necefiity, to Jo.id, with new Exj»
"Nuticn alreridy overwhelmed with Debti, harral
Taxes, and plundeP'd by aSrandiiig Army.
• For what Purpole tiiefe ni:mcii.u! Forces are iri
who arc R0«' preyir,g on the Fubiic j why hc ir.cr
Armies by I ai.u « l-en we Oiiiy ligju hy ifcr. ; why \:-
vatc iheff-irihcn of the War. enAdd Qor.icUJc'op
to foreign injuries, 1 ?.m r.i lofs to JrEcimine. hurt
Kcgr.rd Ihould he r.Tfd to ti:e ^zr.ai cticn c/ the i'co:
ought ndl, during the prcJcn: Sr.i:ci;y of Provifioit
jlarvsil by the Ir.crcrife cf an Armv, which iccmi t\
only toconlums the!ti.
• As then :orc par; cl our prefent Experce i« in l
nion unncciiLry, i ihill not c,-..T[r.bi::c to agcnT:
a ni'w (jrant, for P;:rp'. i'es of which I cannot dilct
they will promote ti.e Acvantntc ot the Publie.'
5ir r>3hcrt Walpole.
S 1 K,
»JrRc.l.;it ' The Prngiratic Sanfti&n, which we are ngagci
\C'.i.i>u.i:- fQftj i* lot CooHncd to the Frcfcrvdtiaa of tbc O^de
( iu )
biit extendi to all tiic Rlgli:-- xji'C-.e IItjikoi AL-f-.-i:!, An-flrj.i
is n-iw actaclct'd, a:id by .; i-rv i'jrinii' ir,- jiiLvny, ^'-^'.'4'
ime of Weakntli and Di.'i ctii^u. s.i.Ci :!i a.'l.jic n;- C./'^
(lur Aiiiilincr.
ihai others rqu;:!!)' cbliccJ liy Tscrry ;i.: ! ;>>' Ir.ir-f ll
nd their Help en this lXc:ilir.n, fit rn,.if.itr, i-'.h.-r
^h CoMfiirdice or Ncglir tiHw". i/f U>n--i i'rc'.iyii of
porary A^vantngc, niHy, ■■fr.li?;-?, b!- t ;;c ; Lmi js it
Excufe of a C'riiiii;, 1I1..E riu-uiio (r.[v,n.!>.'. i: !'■ 'u; ttiR
jUrimina) r Will tin- f':i:i.li of l-'.ii:ii i:i i/hrr r.\ro(c
in us? Ought wc not r*'.!; r ;j :ininir.tc iln-in by mrr AdU-
ilf, inrtrtift ihcm by o,:r Esr.a^'.r, uiA aw.ik'jn them by
orRrprercntatior.^ r
' Perlisj'S the oiiicr IViwcr^ f.iy to tiK'Tn'o-l'.'cs» r'.r.H [c nns
ttotbcr, Why flioi: o W:: k(.r;j liiri: Iri-r^tv »viiic;i t/reaC
IHnin is violiitju^r Vv'i.y ihuuld we cx?'j!t; our.-lvcs to
Unjer, of which '.ii::t !niv;;itv ?< ^ii-n. la celtbiMtd for
Gangt, is afraul r Why iin-.J wc r.;.!; i:-;;) W;ir. i;i which
Winol{ puweriu! Ally ■.•:r.ir.i anwilijrj; :.' -j; pin u^ ?
' Tlius the Tmi-.t; A rg'.: iin'ii :, an Argu;:;en: tvilcntiy falfc,
.hdnade fpt'cil)u^ (.r. y L-y Iniercil, mny be uIjiI [)y nil, tilt
iae one, mure bcjli; !jn i 'nmcJi ti;?.n thi; r':l*, C>-'.\ o.ire
tDrife in VinJication of U;"".!*; Rij;liti which :iti h.-vt- iiro-
■ifedto iiiaiiiEain. -^nd why Hiould no: llic grca.ci; N-uion
■ the firll that fh:ill :-\ow her ib'-.-mn Knj;:iv;:r.(.M:ti r Vi hy
kttid not they bt: iii':>rL Ji!l^.i.-Rt in the I'Toiccition of a 11
Afiir who have ini.;i in '.it: by its Mifc^.rri.iv.c ?
* I am a'.w;:ys I'.ii.i,';^ to ns'lievf. t':;;'. no Mfni'i-r i}>
AiiHcute ..i.Iccs iJ.c ;ii any loitinii IXb.iii cf Ai-'imi'-t.
Whxh da nut iiiipj:;r r..:;cn!l to hiinisjlf; :ind yi.-r i[ i- i^ifTi-
QUtocor.crii'i- th;;: nrv M.\:\ otn juij^ni: iii!i'..i.!f r(if;i;t\l
VDn a P.'ORiiit.', rff.-.i'i' :;;-.■ i.mc I'.cr':'- '■: L-roltfo hy
Uotber i or th:;: ^c 'n ;■: Liji:" 10 i'''!LTt d - I r.^'i' i \r.
Diftfcri, brc-*.y:e ocin:r- ci-Iiti . r, w'; .c . n. .1 <."'.i.s
BCiias equal ^.>U)n to cvtii'.. .'•■^'. :;:\'. ir.t .■■• i" ins .' ;i^'.-
Ineeis nctiici. tne mmc li.-y.\i: It- n.- ti' ' ■■. ::.
• ^uiely ijch Arj»L;i;.e;its ;■' il.tir •>,•;. --i.- ■.■:, :*';i-.l !;r.;: 1
ConfutaticR . Riture Ac iCKiii.i.' .■■t Ci:v:.;i; ' - i'.i.t. ef
oilieiF, we mult cither tir.n-e tii'i ''■^••y '•■.kw *'.i u lifjii:,
•iiich Proof wiii bj a )i-.fiLi^.T.i lJi.vrte «■ i, .>..- ■: IV^cc-
CW. or own lii.n ilicv' iil- nii jvc..;^ib'': ■■! i 1 v.-'^ : '■'■ '-n ivi*.
"d that thtTtfcrT ivc j^iy :iii in'^vj- ,t ;;i.'ini .'] ■■ ii* iin-ir
j^iiz-. iT.ii !.'.;mplc; aJ'^iciii \' v.!i>!i i.f m ]'■ !'■■: *.;;.
''"i'y nir.kt: to the V-jniry yJ uur i^<-^-f/ I' >•■
in tiw prefrnt L-i)b it i: ivi,iiii;, iii:.' .1 ii;'i -i \iti(n*
*B'«ft tSe Pcifcrmanccof th::Jr I "..UrCl , ;i 1 ■/ ■<■ i\t.\: y
*he Breach c-f public I-Viili ; of :. i- riiin'. ;i.:.-. .1 i: {u><\>','<
1 ; 2 2•■'■^.■
( 324 )
jLnno 1 4, <Jtc generally be imiUteJ, would dilTolre Society, ind thrc*
II. 1740. human Na:ure into Confufion, that would change the mod
^-^'^r\m/ happy Region into Defans, id which odc Savage wcu'dbe
preying on another.
' Nor are tliey only prcpagating an Example, whick ii
foRic diUani Times may be pleaded agatnft themfehrc!, bi
theji are efpofing themielves to more immediate Otngmi
they are forwarding Dcfigni that have no Tendency tatn
their Ruin ; they are adding Strength to their inveterate £m-
mies, and beckoning Invnfion to their own Frontier!.
• Let us therefore, inOead ot hardeniog ourfelvei in Per*
fidy, or lulling ourfelvei in Security by their Example, cm
all our Influence to unite them, and all our Power to afil
them. Let us fliew them what they ought to determiae by
our Re(o!utions, and teach them to a£l by our Vigour i tlw
if tLe Houfe of Audria be preferved. our AUiance nayb
flrengthencd by new Motives of Gratitude; and cbli, ifk
mull be that the Liberties of thii Part of the World be U^
we may not reproach ourfelves with having negtcOcd lod^
fend them.'
Mr Henry Pelham.
S I R,
Mr. Henry * It is not to be fuppofed that fuch Membera of tki ;
Pclham. Houfe as are not engnged in public Alfiirt, Aiould mcilt
veryexafl Inttlligence of the DifpofitioDt of fbretgn Po»
ers, and therefore I do not wonder that the ConduA of ita
Dutch hus been mil'reprefcnied, and that they are fuTpcdsi
of neglefling their Eng-igements at a Time when theym
endcivouring to perform them.
• The Du:ch hnve now under Confidcration the moft pi»
per Method- of .iHiliing the Queen of Hungary, and nuiB-
taining the Pi:igni;itic S^niUon ; it may be indeed jullty fi^
pcded from the Nature of their ConlUtutiGD, that thrir
MoTii>ns wiM be fl w, but it cinnot be allcrted, that ibq^
break th*if i' g:.gcmciits, or dcfert their Confederates.
• Nor i£ there iiny Reason for imagining thai the other
Fiinces who h:(ve incurred the fame Obligation!, will hi
endeavour tu pt-rlbrm their Promifcsi it may be eafily ca>-
refvcf^ th-it li'me c>f ihrm are not able, at a fudden SumDOV^
to afford grcLit Alliiiance, and that others may wait tbc Re-
sult of our Deliberations, and regulate their OinduA by am
Eximp!c,
• Not that we cught to negleA our EngagencDti, or «•
danger cur Countiy, becaufe other Powers are etrher peii-
dious or tnfenfib'e ; for I am not afraid to declaie, tbat 9
tkit fhould happen, which there is so Rcafoa to rufpca, if
lE
( 325 )
IIAe other Powers Ihould dcltrrt the Defence of the An- Aniou (Tto
Iriu Line, (hould conlerii lo annul the Pr,'.ginRtic Sar.i^itoi), It i^.i ,
at fciK fbe Queen of Hungary to the Mercy of hvr i* nc V^^^^^J
aia, I would advife thJt Uri.at Briuin ajonc fhciild pour
Vkr Annies into the Continent, th>it fhe fliuuid defend licr
■ Af <gainll the molt formidnble Confedcrncv, ard fhcw
lUukinJ IB Example of CuiiUancy not to be lli.tkcn, and
l«f Faiib not to be violated.
I * If ic be then-fore our Duty to fupport the Pragmatic
IflBQioD, it il now the 7'ime frr dcclarii:g our Rf-lo i::j..r.s,
Fahei the Imperial Crown is ciaimed by a MuftiiudL- cf
iCwfcutors, among whom the Diftor of Baviuia, a very
[mwrfiil frince, ha!i, by his Miniller, notified his rrutcn-
■OH to the Court of Gre.-t BritDtn.
■ The tntirni Alliance between tiiis Prince and the French
iiwdl known ; oor can we doubt tiiat he will not now im-
plvecbeir Aflllinnce for the Attainment of the rhronc to
whkJl he afpires ; and I r.ccd not lay what Ri:iy be expifled
faa an F.mptror whole Elevmiun was pioiurtd by the
forces of France.
* Nor is this the or^y Prince that claims the Imperial
Oown upon p!:ienb'e i'ii.-:er.ee», or whoJe Ci:iiiiis cihtr
Vsoers may combine tn I'uppotti i; is well known ti.at even
AcSpaitfli Monarch belicvef, himlclt' entitled to it, nor c:iii
VC, wbo have no Communicstion with him, know wlitihtr
kekn no: declared, to ■•ill tKe ether Princes cf Eurcpe^ hit
KcfelaiJon to^flcrt hi-' Claim.
• It is hr frcm bei:ig impoflible that the Preicriions o(
AeHmfc of fiourbon ni.iy be revived, and tl.at tt.o* i:o fjn-
gk Prince of th.it VnmUy fr.ould attempt to muni.c the Im.
pemi Throne, they mny slJ confpirc to diimcniLcr :he Em
pre into petty Kingilnm*, and free thtmli.ivt.s fruni tl.c
Drrail of t formidable Neighbour, by erecting a Nuiribcr (.f
dmioDtiire Sovereign^, who mny be alw!>ys ei.>urting the
Jlfilbnce of thtir Protectors, iut the fake of hdrr^flmg
ach ether.
• Thus will the Hoarr, by which Europe hrj been hithrrto
froieQcd, fink into an em^-ty Name, and we iIil>1! lie left
loflaiid aloae ag:iinlt aM the Puwir; thnt prLf-:' ;i (^if!f!erir
Keligion, and whole lnte:eit is cppciiic to that u! Crrcac
Bricaio.
* We ought, indeed, to a^ with the utmoil Vigrur, whrn
Wefecone ot the molt powcrfjl cf the rcrormid i'i.r.i.ts, (o
frr forgetful of the (ntercliof our Religion, a:> tuo-opei-irv
with rhe DcHgns of {-ranee, and {o initnt up(.:i inprcvli,^
the Opportuaity of cillrilling the Houfe of A' t'l.a, as tu
■eglcft ikc commoD Oulc, and opoi'e himleii ti hJ^ I'oie-
Courfe of that Flood of Power, which it now id
Floftuation, or {eems driven to diiFcreiit Points b
Impulles ? How foon may the Dutch fee their
tacked, and call upon us for the 10,000 Men wh
obliged to fend them ? How foon may the Houfe
be Id dillrclTcd as to require all our Power for iu
tioD ?
' That we are to leave nothing unattempted for
rity of our own Religion and Liberty, will eafily b
and, therefore, unlets it can be proved that we may
fecure, tho' the Houfe of Aullria be ruined, it wi
rtly follow, th.it we are, with al! our Power, CO c
Obfervation of the Pragmatic SanAion.
' This is not an AA of romantic Geoerofity, 1
the clofell Attention to our own Interelt fhews to
fary; in defending the Queen of Hungary we d<
felves, and only cxcinguifh that Flame, by which
fuiFered to fpread, we ihall ourfelves be confum
Empire may be confidered as the Bulwark of Grei
which, if it be thrown down, leaves us naked aw
lefs.
' Let us therefore confider our own Danger, a>
her, that while we are coBfidering this Supply, w
berating npon nothing leis than the Fate of our Cc
Mr. Pulteney,
S I R,
( 32? )
ion and chat of the Aiillrian Family arr united, and how Annoi<,Ceo
;h either mull lie cu-.ian>^cred by th; R-iin of the other, IJ- 174*'-
therefore, I fliall noi delay, for a fingle Moment, my s-/"^^-
ifent to an/ Mcafurcs that may re-dtablill) our Intereft
he Continent, and refcac Germ;iny ooce more from the
IS of Franco.
1 am afriiid that we h;ive loll part of our Influence in the
{hbouring Countrirs, aiu th»t the Nr.[r,Kof Great Britain
tT* formidable than heretofore : but if RcpLitaticn is loft,
i time ;o recover it, and 1 doubt rot bu: it m;iy be reco-
ed by the lame Means as it was at iSrll obtained. Our
sites may be yet equally dcilru^tive and our Money equal!/
Wtf nave not yet fuffcT'd, amidll all our MifconduA, our
al Force ti> be diminilhcd j our Sailors yet rctiin their an-
it Courage, .ind our Fleets are fulBcient to keep their Do-
wn of theOjcan, an I prefcribk' l.imiiti to the Commerce
every Nation. While this Power remains unimpaired,
fe Great Britain ret >ins her natural Sj,''crio.'itt', and ailWts
Honour uf her Flag in every Climate, wo cannot become
>ic*b!r, nor cm any Nation ridicule our Mt'n.ices or fcorn
Alliance. Wc may llill extend our Irfiuence to the In-
I Countries, and awe thole Nations which we cannot in-
c.
'o prefervr this Fewer, !;;tus watch over the Difpofal of
Uooey; Money is the Scurce of Dominion; thofe Na-
■ nay be formidable fjr their Afli'Jencc which are not
fidenble for their Nomhers; and by a negligent Profii-
of their Wealth, the itiOl) powerful People may languifh
Iihbrctllty, and fink into Contempt.
ir the Grant which is now demandtd will be fiiflicientto
hicr I' e Ends to which i: is proposed to be applied, if
lieafTuredof the proper Appiicition cf it, I (h:ili agree
E wirhout Hciitation, But thcigh it cannot be aftirmcd
ifae Sum now demanded is too nigh a Price for the Li<
ics of Europe, it is at ieail more than ought to be Iquan-
d without f-tiefi, aad we ought at le.ill to know before
Ennt it what .advantages may be exrcdcd fiom it.
May not the Sum demanded for tiieSnppiirtofthc Queen
{■egarybe employed to promote very ditl«rcnt Intetells ?
f jl not be lavifhed to fupport that Power to which our
Ml b&Tetoo long con:ributed, that Power by which our-
Bbarc been awed, :<r.J the Adoiiniitration has tyrannized
lOatCoatroul ?
U tbii Sum is realty intended to fupport the Queen of
pryt may we not enqi:ire how it ii to be employed
ler Service * Is it to be fe^t tit for the f ayincr.i of her
i\Tinic)|
with this miglity Princr, »nd th.it to bring it ic
bo the molt effcdlual Method of ferving the
Qoecn that requircx our fiS^Rt\ce-
* Why we ihould defpair. Sir, of fuch a R<
I caonot perceive ; a Reconciliation cquJIy cnnd
Teat Intereil of both Parties. It may be proved
little UifHcuIty, to the King of PrulTia, that lie
jng thole with whom Iniercils ircompstible, ani
Irreconc'lab'e, hr.ve fer him at V'aiinnce, whom h
fev profperoJS but by a Disiinution d his own Gr
who will always prcjefl his Ruin while ihey a
the Advantages of his Victories, We may eafi
him. that their Power will loon become, by hi
fuch ai M cannot hope to withltand ; :ind fhew fr
•mples of other Prince*, hew dangerous it is u
Strength of an ambit^us Neighbour. We inai
bow much the Fate of tbe Fmpire is now in his
how much more glorious and more .dvatageouf i
preserve it fiom Ruin, than to contribute to its D
* If, by fuch Argumfnt*, Sir, this potent Mod
indued 10 at:1 ticadily in Defence of tlic commoi
may once more (land at the llead cf a ProiclUi
ncy, tiiai may contrafl. the Views and repfels th
cf theHouleof Bourbon, and liter their Scheme
laj Mnnsrchy into Kxpedicnts fur the Defence o
nn (lions.
* Rut in iranrsAiniF ihcfe Affltiri. W n* im*
( 329 )
dirert their Attcificn frcm other Qiie/liori', how many Op- Amoi
(Drntitin have been loft, and how ohtn might wc h,-tw r*-- '!•'
'and by War, what was, at a much greater £xpc(,cc, loit 's-''^
[h/ Treaties i
* Treaties, Sir, are the Artillery of our Enemies, to which
rhave nothing Eooppnfe ; they arc VVeapons'of wliich wc
klow not the Cle, and which we can only efcape by not
king within their Reach. I know not by what F.it.itity
kit, that to trcatanij to be chcateJ, are, with rcg^ird to Ijri<
[.tlia. Words of the fame Signific^iiion ; nor do 1 intcniJ. by
^duObfervation. toafperfc: the Charafiers of pariicu!;ir Ccr-
ttu I for Treaties, by whoinfoevtr carried un, have enii^J
ahrayi with the fame Succels.
* It is Time, theitfore. to know, ?t length, our Weak-
■ftand our Strength, and to rcfnlve no tu::gcr to p t f::ir-
WMFoIlintarily intolhcPow rof nur KnL-ni!t:s: Oar I'roops
IftM always been ouralltlL Ncgc;ri;i;ors. an.! to them it lius
KD, for the moil Part, ncccil'iry ?.i ]r.il to ri-f^ir ojr L.r.ii[c
* Let DSthen always prcfrrvu our marti:il L.hjrj^ler, ■.:r.i
■odcft ibe Praife cf pDliiic:>l Cunning : h Quality whicli, I.
WGne, we fh:ill never attain, nr.d which, if wecouid obL.-iin,
«bbM add DOthirg to our Honour. Let it be the 1'radii.e of
IritOOi to declare their Rcfolutions vvith<;ut Kolcive, iinj
attere to them in Oppc'fition to D^tngers ; let them be a^i-
aSooM of no other ILlogies than thofc which may be giini-d
Iv Honeftyand Co^rago, nor wi!) they then ever find their
Alfin diffident, or their l.vr.emie& contcmptuouE.
* B7 recovering and uHerticg this Charafler we may be-
OMS once more the Arbiters of Europe, and be courted hy
ill the Protei'ant Powers ai their Prote^lors ; we may once
^Kwe fubdue the Ambition of the afpinng French, and once
■OR deliver the Houle of AuHria from the inccffiint PurfuJt
of thofe retllefs Enemies.
< The Defence of that illullrious Fnmlly, Sir, h.ts always
appeared to me, iincc I lludicd the St.ite of Europe, tlie
Mvariable Interelt of the BritiOi Nation, and our Oblig:^-
. llMs to fupport it, on this parti:ular Occalion, have aiready
been fofiicientty explained.
' Whence it proceeds, Sir, thit thofe who now fo z.'a!oi;ny
dpoale the AuUrian Interell, have bren I'o pLiinly forgetful
flC it on other Occaflons, I cannot determine. That I'rea*
liti have been made very little to the Adv ii>t.ige of that F:i-
aiOy, and that its Enemies have been Aifi't;rcd to iaiuh it
without Oppofition, is well known, nor was it long ago that
' k wai dctMied io this Houie, whether any Money fliould be
bm to the late Emperor.
* No poblic or private Charafler can be fupported, no
Vol VII. - U u Enemy
{ 330 )
Annoi4.Geo. Enemy, Sir, can be intimidated, nor any Friend conErmti
^' '^4^ in his Adherence, but by a lleady and confiltent Condufi, by
i,yv\J propofing in all our AClions fuch Ends as may be openly
avowed, and by purfuing them without Regard to t«np«-
rary Inconveniencies, or petty Obllaclcs.
' Such Cotidud, Sir, I would gladly recommend on the
prefcnt Occafion, on which I fhould be far from advifinga
flint, an irrefolute, or momentary Afliflance, fuch Suppliei
as declare Diffidence in our own Strength, or i mean liicU<
nation to pleafe contrary Parties at the fame time, to per-
form our Engagements with the Queen, and continue our
Friendfhip with France. It is, in my Opinion, propcrio
cfpoufe our Ally with the Spirit of a Nation that ezpe&i
her Decifions to be ratified, that holds the Balance of the
World in her Hand, and can bcftow Conquell and Empiic
at her Plcifure.
' Yett Sir, it cannot be. denied thnt many -powerfiit Ret-
fonsmay be bruught agiinll any new Occafion cf Ejtpeace;
nor is it without Horror and AUonilliment that aoy Mia.
converfani in political Calculations, can conlider the caoi-
mous Profufionof the national Treafure. In the laieditid-
ful Confufion of the World, when the Ambition of Frasce
hud fet half the Nations of the Earth on Flame, when n
fent our Armies to the Continent, and fought the gcncnl
Quarrel of Mmlcind, we paid during the Reigns ol Knf
William, and his great SuccelTor, Reigns of which cray
Summer was diltinguilhed by fomc important Aflion, ba
four Millions Yearly.
' But our Preparations for the prerent War, in wUck
fcarcely a fingle Ship of War has been uken, or a i'ffi'
Fortrej's laid in Ruins, have brought upon the Nation an £[-
pence of live Millions. So much more are we now obli|^
to pay to amufe the wrakeli, than formerly to fubdue ik
molt prnverfui of our Enemies-
* Frugaiii), which is always prudent, is, at this Time, $>'■
indilpenlable, wr.cn War. dreadful as ti is. may be termed ike
lighten of 01)1 C-iUmitiei, when the b.afons have dit^
}>ointe(l us of fire^u, and an sniverfal Scarcity .-ffli^ ihl
iMation. F.very i>ay brings us Accounts from diffcicm Fam
of the Country, and every Account is a new Evidence of ikc
genera! CaUmicy.of the \^ ant of Employmen; foj tbcFosr,
and Hi nvi rR'iTy Conlequence, the ^\antot Food.
• lie tn. I ii Icarce able to preferve himfe f, cannot bea-
peiltd to .tllM others; nor is that Mone) to be granted n
fireign rcA'<:r&, which i^ wanted for the Suppoit of oar Fcl
low-SiibJoii'i, wiio are now Ijnguifliin^ with Difeales, wkxk
uaaccullomtrd Hardfhips, and uawhulfome Piovifions bifc
brought
( 330
brought upon them, while we are providing againfl diilantAnno 14, Geo;
Dajigeri, and bewailing the Diftreilcs of tlic HouJe of Au- 'l.^r^
* Let us not add to the Miferiei of Famine the Mortifi*
atioos of Inliiltaad Negle£l; let our Countrymen, at kalt,
divide our Care with our /lUies; and, while we Ibrm Schemes
for foccoariog the Queen of Hungary, let us endeavour to
•llcvimte nearer Diitrefles, and prevent or pacify domeUic
Difcontents.
■ If there be any Man whom the Sight of Mifery cannot
■ove loConpalTioa, whocan hear the Complaints of Want
wUhoat Sympathy, and fee the general Calamity of his
CaantTj without employing one Hoar on Schemes for its
Relief: Let not that Man dare to boaft of Integrity, Fide-
Uty or Honour; let him not prefume to recommend the
FrcJcmtion of our Faitht or Adherence to our Confede-
ntni that Wretch can have no real Regard to any moral
OblintioD, who has forgotten thofe firlt Duties which Na-
IBIC mpreiles ; nor can be that ncglcAs the Happinefs of
lus Country, recommend any good Adion for a good Reafon.
< ]t Ihould be confidered. Sir, that we can only be ufcful
toeor Allies, and formidable to our Enemies, by being una-
■il|Mai and mutually confident of the good Intentions of
CKh other, and that nothing but a fleady Attention to the
yiblic Welfare, a conAant Readinefs to remove Grievances,
uduapinrpnt Un>viilingners toimpole new Burthens, can
pradu^ that Unanimity.
■ As the Ciaufe is therefore neceflarily to precede the
Bftftj as foreign Influence is the Confequence of Happi-
Mfi U Home, let us endeavour to eflablifh that Alacrity and
Seearity that puy animate the People to ajTert their ancient
8a|Kriority to other Nations and reAore that Plenty which
■Rf nife them sbove any Temptation to repine at Afliil-
■ace given to our Allies.
' vjo Man, Sir, can very follicitoufly watch over the Wel-
fin of hia Neighbour, whofe Mind is deprrffed by Poverty,
ardiftnded by Terror, and when the Nation (hall fee ui
MgioM for the Prefervatton of the Queen of Hungary, and
■noncemed about the Wants of our Fellow-SubjeAs ; what
cut be inagined, but that we have fomc Method of exempt-
1^ ourfelTes froiQ the common Dillrefs, and that we regard
Mt the public Mifery when we do not feel it? '
Sir Robert Walpole,
S I E,
« It it alwayi proper for every Man to hy down fome sir Hober
Mncif ki opon wbicb be propofes to ad, whether in public Wul^uie.
U u 2 or
f\}; rxpaciites upon the Danger that may be prod
retiinling it, declares againtl the lead Delay, howet
oafly propofed, and inforcesihe Argumenti which hi
already oiE'red to ihcw hew oiuch it is our Duty an<
to allow it; m:iy it not reafonably be imagined thi
tends to promote it, and is endeavouring to convince
thscNecefliry cf which he feems htmlctf convince!
' (Bdt when the fame Man proceeds to Jiiplay. wi
Eloquence, the prefent Calamities of the Nation, i
to how much better Purpofifs the Sum, thus^emand
be applied ; when he dwells upon the Pollibilicy thi
poliiic Ufe may be maife of the national Tread
hinu'that it may be aflied for one Purpofe aDd cm]
another, whnt can be collefled from his IJarangue,
elegant, entertaining and ptiihetic ? How can tii>1
nioii be dilcover^ i Or how Oiill we Jix fuch tug
funingi, fuch variable Rhetoric?
■ I dm not able, Sir, loditlern, why Truth (hou!
U ur'd i or why any Man (houIJ tuke Plonfure in he
g'-ther ail the Argumrnii thit his Knowledge may f
his Imagination luggcll, agajnll a Propofition which
no; deny. Nor c^n I aflign any good Purpofe thi
promoted by pcrpciuni Renewals o7 Debate, and b>
titron rf Ohjcthons, which have in former CoDlcr
t>ic i-Nn<- Occ^finn, been found of little Force.
' ^Vhcn the Sytlem of AfTiirs is niTt fully laid o
the SLJicmes are i:i p.irt unknown, it iicafy to raife 0
( 333 )
ons on this fide of the Globe; mvay of wbich fufier more. Anno 14, Geo.
iBtBOBC lefs thin ourfclves. II- 174%
* If at fuch a Time, it it more bunhenrome to the Nation V.-^V'X-'
a nife Supplies, it multberemembered, that it is in Propor-
ban difficult to other Nations to oppofe'thofe Meafures for
vUch the Supplies are granted ; and that the fame Sum is of '
|iimi Efficacy in Times of Scarcity than of Plenty.
* Oar prefent Diftrefs wili, J hope, foon beat End ; and
Hihapift few Days may produce at leall fome Alteration.
It it not without Rcitfoo, that I expeA the News of fome
faccbfiil Attempts in America, which will convince the Na-
te, thtl the Preparations for War have not been idle Shews
BOiahed to produce unnecellary Expences,
■ b the mean time, it is neceflary that we fapporc that
llMr which may be able to aflift as againft France, the only
Ifadoa from which any Danger can threaten as, even
'Amj^obt Fleet in America Ihould be unrQcceftrul.
' If we defeat the Spaniards, we may affilt the Houfe of
Mm without Difficulty, and if we fail in our Attempts.
Jlrir Alliance will be more neceflary. The Sum demanded
ElUi inportant Purpofe, cannot be cenfured as exorbitant,
M, I hope, be.fuiHcienc : If more fhould hereafter ap-
rMCcflary, I doubt not but itwill be granted.*
■ 7W Qneflion then pafled without farther Oppofition,
The i4tb. Received the Report of Yefterday's Relolution Votes on the
teflw Supply, viz. Refolved, That 3cx},ooo/. be granted Supply*
1^ Ibftfty to enable him efieiflually to fupport the Queen of
IhiBry, and to prevent the Subverfion of the Houfe of
^1ta75,952l. ys. 4</ ^ be granted for defraying the
Chr|t of 6000 Heffians, from the 25th March to the Z5tb of
ilMier, 1741 ! as alfo 30,205 /. 14 j. 7 </. for Levy Mo-
Miaisg unpaid for.
[49,608/. 6/. I / be granted for what remains pay-
I of the Sublidy for the faid 6000 Heffians. •
iThu 69,841 /. 5 J. 4/ ^ be granted for defraying the
■^p of 6000 Danes, from the 251^ of March to the 25ch
^ptoDMober, 1741 ; as alfo 251875 /. for Levy Money re-
J aopaid for.
44,569 /. 8 J. 1 /. be granted for what remains py-
tlt- the Subfidy for the faid 6000 Danes.
361I57A 19/. I </. 3 be granted for feveral extra-
Expenccs incurred 1740, and not provided for by
lacDt.
Hat 53,995/. i3«. 4<iL be granted for mainuining a Re-
■NM of Foot ni&d in America, confiftingof 36 Compa-
n Hu i74i>
That
That 6249/. t6/. 4 V. three Farthingi, be gi
, make good ctie JLofs fuflsined by leveral Mercfaaiit
the Officers of the Six new^raifed Independant Cos
Foot in Jamaica, by the Failure of Mr. Henry F<
Majefly'i Agent to the laid Companies.
That 1816/. 17J- 4/ three Fanhings. be g
Richard Fitz-william Efqi Ciptaia of an lodepciid
pany of Footia New Providence, to make good tji
luHained by ihe Failure of Mr. Popple.
That 650 /. be granted to make good a Ijofi la
the Receiver General of Scotland, by the FaJIui
Popple •.
That 20,000 1, be granted for lecftabliOiiDg thi
by Fire at Charles-Town in South- Carol in a.
The 15th. In a Commictee, went thro' the BiO
virion of Perfoo) returning from Traafportatioo,
veral Amendment! "t*.
In a Committee, went thro* the Bill for Con
Perfons returning fiom Tianrporutioo. with feven
meats f.
W«V ^d '^^^ ^^^^- ^S'.^ *° **" ^'P"" °^ Yeilerday
Uean& t<°"> >" ^ Committee oo Wayi and Means, ^z.
That the Sum of one Million be granted to hn
out of the Surpluflei and Evceflei of the Sinking t
That towards raifing the Supply, there be i£a
plied the Sum of 1 1.434 ^- 4 '■ '"'* rcmaiBiBg i
chequer, referved to be difpoled of by Farlimowai
Gnoti for 1 740» be ilTurd and applied towards making good Anno t^. G**
' .pply griowd in thiiSciCon of Parliament. Ordered ina '' '7'""
cordingly. Ordered, ThJt a CUulc be infcrled in ilie ^-y^f\J
i. t'ljf allowiog a Drawback ot all Duties on (uch Coals. &s
I) b« died in the working Fire-Engines for draioing Tin
Copper Mines in Cornwall.
Agrm to ihe Rcpoii of the Bill for Conviflicm of Perfons
MRUBiDg fioot Tranrportaiton. Ordered it to be iiigrcflcd.
Tte 17th. Read a third Time, and paHed the Bill for
tnctton of OfTcndcrs iranrponcd, unlaw/ully returning to
imt Briuifl. or Ireland, Sec. Ordered it to the Lords.
RcHlafirft Time, a Bill for granting to Hia Majdly, a
5sM out cfthe Smkiifg-Faad, and applying oihcr
towards ibe Supp'y of ttie Vear 1741 i and for otbcr
fw* ibrtclii mentioned.
Tbi iStti Read a fecond Time, the SiakicgFund Bill.
Tht aoth. In 1 grand Committee, went ttiro' the Sitikiog-
B.il, witli (everal Amendmenti.
TW s 1 S. Agrtcd CO the Report of the Shiking Fund
Ordered it to be ingroflcd.
Thc::J Read a third lime, aod pa(I«d the fiill for
iQKg to his Majcfly, one Millioa out of the Sinking-
fni4, aod 51.022/ lir. 1 a Z three Farthings, out of [hepo^,i jvi?!^
(•cr, for 1741. Ordered it to the Lord>. girm tu inc.
Tkz 3^ih. Hi! Majell/ came to ihe Houfe of Peers, ralJliii^
ad gire the Royal AiTcni to,
I Ad AA for graating lo bis Majelly a ceruto Sum out
of Lbe Sinking Fund, and applying other Sumt lowitds lh«
loppd; of ik* Year 1741. ana lur tiie other Purpofn therein
}. Ao A& for opening 1 Trade to aadfrom Ferlu thro*
fti«i.
3. Ao A(i for the F.flcaursgemeoi and Increafeof Seamen,
Id for ike better and (pccdier MaoDiog his Majelly*» Fleet.
4. An A& far rcllraintDg and preventing (cvcr&l unwar*
InattbleScheiDes and Undertaking* in Amerjca.
{. Aa AH /or ths Ptefeivinoo of the public Roada ia
EMttod.
^ Aa A^ for (urwying the chief Porti ami Headlandi
i«atte CoaA of Great Britain and IteUnd, and the Ifliodi
Plaeationt thereto Ixlongiag. fat the more cxa^it Oc-
'tomiiunon of the Longitude and Uituude ttteteof
7. Aa Afi lo enable the Comoiiflioaeii for building Wed-
Mcr Bridge, to raile a further Sum towards ItaiQiing ttie
i^nr, ttc.
Aad CO one other public, aod two private Afii.
Afxt
jueans ot reaucmg our enemies to kciiod ; ana i
and EarneflneTs, which you have fo katonMy fhc
Defeace of the Houfe of Auflria, and tbe Mainteik
Ballanoe and Liberties of Europe, muil give ihe g
couragemcBt to our Friends. Thtfe arc the Met
care to this Nation that Weight and Influence abn
its natural Strength and Situation entitle it to."
Gentlemen of the Houle of Commoas,
■■ It is with particular SatilfjAion, 1 ackaowl
Readincts andApplication, in rai£ng the Sappliei f
vice of the current Vear ; which joa have done m
a Regard to the prefeDi Exigencies of the Public
you to be the true RepFefentatives o(my faithful C
My Lords and Gentlemen,
" I cannot pare with this Parliament, withoui
returning you my Thanks, for tbe many emineBt
which you have given me. of your Fidelity and
to my Perfon and Government ; your fixed Rcfi
maintain the Proteflant Succeflion in my Family t
uaihaken Adherence to the true lotereft of yonr
You have, with the moll becoming Spirit and Fin
erted yoidelves in vindicating and defending tbe h
my Crown, and tbe undoubted Righu of Navtfi
Comowrce belonging to my Subjeds j and cnafat
revenge thefe Wrongs and Infutu. which, conuai
Faith of Trcatiei, hiul been committed agaiall bod
critical a ConjunAure, you have fupported the nau
._J ll L I .L- IT-
. ( ii7 )
farliunent, fo it will W the Sub/eft of Emulation to thofe An'jio.i.GtQ
wbieh fiiall come after it, l-'-ir^'^
" I will imaiediaiely give the heccffary Orders ^or calling f^^^sj,^^
a aew I'ariiament. Therf is not any diing I fet fo higti
a Value upon, as the Love and AfFvaioi: of my People ; in
wkkh I have fo entire a ConiiJence, tiiat it is with great -
ttOiH&ioti, I fee this Oftportunity pt\t into their Hands, of
ciring me frefh Proofs of it, in the Choice of their Repre-
featauves.
" On the prefent Ertablin.mcnt tlepends the Continuance
of our excellcni Contlitution in Church and Stale; and in '
^ Conftitattooconfills the S::curity of the prefent Eftablilh-
■at: Nothing can hurt the one, that will not, in pro-
■Knoa, undermine aitd wcilcen the other. For my Parr,
flc oniform Prefervation of both, and the Maintenance of tHe
lefig^x and ciril Rights of all my SubjeAst have been, and
Cftr fhall be, my conAant Care. Thofe who diltinguiih
tealclves by perfcvering in thefe Principles, Ihall always
lid my'Countenance and Favour; and, by invariably pur-
faiig thcfe wile and honelt Meafures, we may entertain the
kt irauaded Hopes, that, under the Protcdkion of the Di-
fuc Providence, theHappinda of Great Britain will bepcr-
pRBUcd to Pollcrity.''
A State of the National Debt.
J. d.
fie Amount of the National Debt on > ^ ^ - _ ,,,„ . „ , _
IV,,-A«.,i ..,, ii.« ^47,185.869101
Dtetmber i\^ >737' *'*'
KRifed between Decern. 3
. ud December 31. 1738.
Rud off within the faid Time 1,171,040 o o
tcraWbetwecn Decern 3t.i737.>
, aao December 51, 1738. 5
The Amount of the Nationa Debt? /■ , , q,„ .„ .
. on December 31, 173^, was ^ r 'j t' y t
Iicrafed between Decern. 31, 173S.)
, and December 31, 1739, Nili f
Plid off within the faid 'J ime i!t4,833 6 S
The Amoant of the National Dcbt?,> ,,„„^c , .
, 00 December 3., ,739, was i4'^'»=9.946 3 5
iKtcafed between Decern. 31. 1739,/'
ud December -t, 1740, Nil. ^
hid off within the faid Time i36,ooo 00
TIV Amount of the National Debt? , « ft
BB December 31, 1740, was j "^^ 943.940 , j
Vol. Vn. ' X X Pa-h-
Particulars omitted -in theLa^
Sajfiofjy which did not occur
Order of Time# ■
Mr. Pidtcncj'
The Debate on tht Corn-BiU^ which tumi trt
in November 20, and pajftd December 24.
Mr. PuItcDcy.
S I R,
AFTER nil the Attention whkli liu b«« __^^
upon (he Bill now before ui, I cnoruii yet OMctfvefc
fuch ai can bcnctit the Nation, or fuch u *ntl Doc pcvfat
hx greater loconvcnicncies ttun iliofe whkb k is it
to obviate, and therefore ai tbo^e lacoBmiencet i_
prevcnied by other Meani, i c&bqdc but <kcbrc ihu
hx frcm ipproring it.
* Our Aoceftoti, Sir, liare alwajrt thought it the
Bufincrs of this Hou^ to much sgHinli tbr Cncrotcl
of th« Prrrog^tiTe, and to prevent any Iacrra.lc
Tower of the Minillcr, and the Merabrn h -- -'-r-.yt
confidcrcdasmorc [atibfiit to ihcir Trui!. ni
the Reprefcncaiiyei of the People, in Proj'or;;L ,
have coniidered ibt> greic £nd vitii more AtWHioa,
profccuted it with more bivariable RcfalntitKi. If w«j
ooire inio the different Degrm of Refoctttioa, wbick
fcveril Aftmblies of Membcn Iutc ofaiainrd, tmd 1
why fome arc remembered witb Rrvemm and Gl-
and othrn never mentioned but with DneftstWB and'
lempt. Mie flialt alwiys £nd thit ibeir Coadafi, with ...
to tbia Tingle Poiot, bit produced their Renown or tfcciri
fimy. Thole are always by the geccral SvSiagc of It*^
kind apptauded %» the Purooiof ibrir Cboatr^, wtefe**
fttuggird witb the InQuencc of tb* Cnnm, aad ckdb
demacd u Traytors, who h.ve ritber promoted if by
fomhk Oraaaj fir {cm it iDcr«afe by flow Dtpza
RdilhiKe.
( 339 )
a: rot indcw!. Sir, been ■Iwnys the Pnflicc of Mi-
tonuke op«n Demands of largtr PoKcri, and avow*
t Dilguilc, ihcir Defigtii of ex:enilitig ihrir Aotho-
_l ioch PropofaUwtrald, in firmer Tnow, Jiivc produced
afti)uenccs bm ilul of awikcoing the VigiUnce of
BCn(, of TMiiag St;(picioiii againll all their Proceed-
»od of cmbirratring tfae Crown, with Fctiuons, Ad-
atid Impci'.hmcms.
Tbey wetc tinder a Nectfiicy in thofi; Times of pro-
«ing (heir Schenjrj, thofe Schemes which (carcel/ any
kliaLller hjs forborn (o adopt, hy more fccret* Arcful, and
at Mcthodii by Mcihodiordiveningthe AttcntkiEiof t|i9
)b]ic (6 other ObjcAi.aitd of trukinginviGbi'e Approachci
Point in View, while they fecmcd ro dtrcd aU cheir
voari to difTercnt Purpofes.
It (och. Sir, have been the ProoTi of tfflpltctie Confi.
. which the 4dinlniftration hai recrcived from ihi(
, that It ii now commcn to demand uoUtnitted Powers,
to exprA Confidence without RcIlti£)ion ; to rrqiiirc an
M:e PolTcflion of our Ellates by a Voic of Credit, or
Direction of OUT Tndc by ao AA for prohibitiiig,
tktU Pleafure^ the EjiportatioD of the Produce ot oor
V -it loflaocci of uRcoranon Merit, of Regart)
iVofpettty, unknown in forrocf Ttmei, or of
immt (uprrtor :o ih«( of their mofl celebrated Prede-
the prdcnt Minitlcn found their new CUiott to Sub*
and lo-Trud, I an indeed at a loft to difcover; for^
-r XTsrkind may hare determined concerning the fnte-
'oy whom the lare memorable Convenrion wu
jliC... ^.. Lndcd, and coofinncd, I know not that their
tm bai ycx appeared by any inconteflable or mmifeS
;, whirh may (et their Abilitiej above Queftion, and
.til Reputation for Policy out of the Reach of Cenfure
Eaqulrici.
The only Afl, Sir. hy which it can be difcovered that
^ey haveau) Degree uf Pcncuation proportionable to their
^loyuicr.ii, ti the Embargo lately laid upon PiovifiOni in
by which our Enemies have been timely hindered
iliing Ehcnirt:tve3 from our Dominionswiih Nccef-
their Aimici and their Naries, and our Fellow-
It have been rellraiocd from expofing tbemfclvcs tq
Dferiei of F:imiRe, by yielding to the Tempiatioo of
Probt I a Temptation generally (a powerful ai to pre-
mier any dUlant Inoirell.
But as Roihlsg n more contrary to my aatnral Difpoft-
or mora unworthy of a Merabcr of tbu Uoufe thaa
X X X Platiery,
J
( 3+0 )
fUtlery, Icannot affirm that I r.fcrlbe thisurefol F.-A\ed'::Li
wholly to the Sagacity or the Caution of the Minitlry, r.or
can I attribute all the h:ippy F.ffefts proJuccd by it to rhcir
teiii^n Solicitutle for the public Welfir*.
* I am inclined to belitve that thi? St^p v.ir .T^Jvifrtl by
tiiofe wliD were promi^red to confider its Impcrtjnrt- by Mo-
tives more prevalent fhan that of public Spirit ; ai:d thst tlic
Difireof Profit, whuh imf fo often diftated pcrnitiuus Mta-
furcf, has for once produced, in return, an E-tpediLiit Jul! -..r.d
beneficial ; and it ha^ I'or once, luckily fallen cut, t):.it fr.ir.e
rf the Friends of the Adminiltratton have difcuvercii th.i[
tlie public Interi'U wns combined with tht-irown.
* h is highly probable. Sir, that the Contraflors for fjp-
plying the Navy wi:h Pmvifions, conitdt;ring with tlia: A-
cutenefs which a quick Scnfe of Lofs and Gain always pro-
duces, how much the Price of ViiSuiIs would be raili;: by
Exportation, and by Confcquencc h' w much of the .Advan-
tage of their Contrafts would be diminilhed, fuggt:ltd lo
the Minifiry the NecclFity of an Embargo, and laid before
them thofe Arguments which their ov/n Obfurvati^t; and
"XVifdom would never have difcoyzred.
* Thus, Sir, the Miniilcrs in that Inflance of their Con-
duA, on which their political Reputation mull be louiided,
can claim pcrhips no higher Merit, than that of atierding
to fuperior Knowledge of complying with '^ood Advice
ivhen it was offered, and of not rcliLling Demonllration whrti
It was laid before then.
' But as Iwould never afcribc to one Man the Merit of
another, I fhould be equally unwilling to detraci from due
Commendr.tiuns, and fhall therel'urc fvucly admit, ihut not to
rcjc£l good Council is a Degree of WirJoni, ut which I
ccuid not expeft that they by whom the Convention wis
t:;r.cluded would ever have arrived.
* lir.t whatever Proficiency they may hr.ve mude in ike
/itt of Government fincc that celebrated Period, however
ihey may have incre.^fed their Maxims of dnmcllic Policj",
tr iiiprovcd their Knowledge o( fori-ij" -'fi'^Jrs, F anoot
»■!!( touL-fs inyrtif I'lill iniiliried to fome Degree of Suipi-
ticn, n-.r crm preva;! upi^n myfeif to Ihut my fr'yuiand deli-
\cr un the P'.ibl-c ar.ti myfirlf i.^p!:citly to their DireAiao.
* 'J ii;;lr 'ligicity, Mir, ir-sy perhaps of late hsvc received
fotr.e J:riLCjvi-men!s fro:n ior.gi.-r Experience ; and with re-
iDcb
of
brought
( 34t 5
X hire hitherto entertained an Opinion that for this
lofe only wc are deputed by our Cunllituents, who, if
bad repoied nu Cor.Hdor.ce in our Care and Abilities*
d h^ve given up long fince the vexatious Right of con-
ig lor the Choice of tLepreicntativcs. They would
furnifticd the Minillry with general Powers to a£l for
I, and lat At Ei{e with no other Reg-rd to public Mea-
tban might incite them to animiitc with their Ap-
Ici the laudable Er.deavours of their profound, their
;ent, and their magnanimous Governors.
Al I do not theri'forc check any Sufplcions in my own
d, 1 (hall not cDfily be rellrair.ed from uttering them.
■fe I kiiow not how I (hall benefit my Country, or alTift
ConncWi by filent Meditations. I cannot. Sir, but t^-
! due the Powers conferred by this Bill upon the Admi-
■tibn are larger <han the Nation cun fafely repofe in any
f of Men, and with which no Man, who confiders to
tFvrpofes they may be^employed, will think it conveni-
EO taveft the Nrgctiators of the Convention.
Nor do my Objedioni to this A£l arife wholly from my
mfaeafioDs of their Condufl, who are intruded with the
Ottionof it, but from my Refleftioos on the Nature of
le* aod the Condufl of thofe Nations who are moA cele>
cd for commercial Wifdom.
Ic B'wel] known. Sir, how difHcult it is to turn Trade
C &ito its ancicat Channel, when it has by any meant
I dmrced from it, and how often a profkable Traffic has
I loll for ever, by a (hort [nierrupcion, or temporary Fro*
dba. The Relentment of dil'appointed Expeflations,
'ma the Buyer to feek another M4rkct, and the Civility
duck his new Correfpondeots arc incited by their own
refl, detains him> tilt thofe by whom he was formerly
lied, having no longer any Vcot for their ProduAs or
r Wares, employ their Labours on other Manufactures.
BicivBte their Lands for other Purpofcs.
ThDSrSir,if thofeNations who have hitherto been fupplyed
^Corn from Great Briuin, Jhould find a Method of pur-
iaf^it from Denmark, or any other of the Northern
ioBB, we may hereafjier fee our Grain rotting io our
ekoufes, and be burthened with Frovifions which we can
ker confume ourfelvcs, nor fell to our Neighbours, r
te Dutch, whofe Knowledge of the Importance or Skill
m Arts of Commerce will not be queftioned, arc fo carc-
sprcTerve the Inlets of Gain from Obllrutlion, that they
e BO Icruple of fupplying their Enemies with their Com-
ties, and have been known to fell at Night thofe Bui'
ebkh were next Day to be difcharged againll them.
^^ . , ' - - < Whethw:
•■•■-• "r
f 34a )
I Wbetber their Exampte, Sir. deftrves «ar I
■m notable to determine, buticooebtat Ic«A tobe
whether their ConduA wu niionxTor not, and wli
did n(H, by a prefent Evil, enibre an AdTaotage w
' faoluced it.
* There are doubtlcfi. Sir. fometimes fuch Exi
nquire to \)t coipplied with at the hazard of future
J am not certain that the Scarcity which is feared
preleot, ii to be nainbered amongll thJm ; but hoi
midable it may be thought, there is farely no need
Law to provide againll it: For it is one of tbofe
nary Incldenti, on which the King has the Rig
erting extraordinary Powen. On Occ^fions lilb
prerogative hai heretofore operated very tScAiai
know not that the Law has eirer rellraiord it.
• It Is therefore. Sir, in my Opinion^ moil prud
termine nothing in fn dubious a Queftioa. and ratbei
the immediate Occ^iton (hall require, than prolecofi
tain Mcchcd of proceeding, or eftablifli any Preced
A& of the Senate.
< To reflrain that Commerce by which the Nco
Life are dilirilsuted in a very bold Experiment, as
once produced an Infurreflion in Turkey, that ti
in the Dcpofition of one of their Monarchs.
« i therefore willingly conftfs, Sir, that I kaoii
to conclude : I am unwilling to deprive the Nation •
or to fuppty our Enemies with Strength to be exen
ourfelvet i but I am on the other hand afnid n
Commerce, and to truU the Authors of the Coove
Mr. Henry Pelham.
S I a,
Jhlr- Pelham. * I am always in expeifUtion of Improvrmcntis
lion when that Gent'Ctnan engiges in any Difcufi
tional Quellions, on which he is equally qualigcd to
his great Abilities and long Experience, by that E
which enables him to ioand the Sentiments of M<
ferent [ntereds, and that Intelligence which ci
yicwt [Q diQant Parts of the Worid : but on this (
have found my Expc^tions fruAratcd, for he has
without making any Difcovery, and faaraDgued
illullrating the Queftion before us.
t He hulatisAcd himfelf. Sir, with declaring lu
ons, without condefcendiog to tell ui what DcGgu
Dangers he apprehends. To fear without being aW
the ObJe£l of our Terrors, is the Ull, the moft i
i)egrce of Cowardice j and to fufpeA without kav
I'ouodatioQ of ^r ovn Sufpicion; it furcly a Froofc
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f Iliad, whtcli would not be app1:iu(]ecl on common Oi;-
and fucb as no Man but a Patriot ivould v^iuure to
< Helus ildeetl. Sir, uner'd fome very ingeniou; ConccitB
the late Convention, has alluded to it with great L,uxu-
of Fancy » and Elegance of Di^ion; and I mutt at leaft
that, whatever may be its EfTc^s upon the Interell of
NatioDf it has to him been very ben:.'iicial ; as it has fup^
yW him witb a SubjeA of Raillery when other Topics be*
Cto &il liim, and given Opportunity for the Exercife of
Wit which beg<-in to languiih for want of Einploymcnc.
• What CooneAion his wonderfaV Sagacity has difcovered
IwcRi the Convention and a Corn bill, I cannot yet fully
liaprrbend, but have too high an Opinion of his Abilities
IliBi^ne thatfo many Infinuations are wholly without nny
laAn to fupport them. 1 doubt not therefore, Sir, but
tewltta fome fitter Opportunity lh;ill prefent itfelf he will
Utar tbclr Refemblance, and branch out the Parallel between
IIb uto • thoufand Particulars,
• Tn the mean Time, Sir, it may be proper for the Houfe
Mi^editethe Billagainlt which rio Argument has yet lieen
inliced, and which is of too much Importance lo bedelity'
dkf Raillery orlavcilives.
Mr Sandy*.
Sin.
■ The Bill before ui as it is of too much Importance, to Mr.
kl^igently delayed, is liUewile too dan^eious to be pre-
CfilalEly harried into a Law.
■ Itlus been always the I*/a£liceof this lloufe toconfidcr
Mbncjr-Bills with p-nrticuiar Attention, becaufe Money is
Fbwer in almoll the highelt Degree, and ought not there-
fat to be given but upon llr.ing A/TuratiCC', that it will be
a|rioyed tor the Purpofcs for which it i^ di:iiLitidi-d, and [hat
Am Purpofes arc in thcmfeives jull.
• But if we confider, Sir, the Bill now bcrforc u<i, it will
bpenr yet more than a Money-Cill ; it will be fojod a Bill
■r regulating the Difpolklof that, which it is the great Ufe
If Money to procure, and is tbcrefuie not to be pnllcJ itito a
Ijnr without a clofc At^cntiun to every Circutijthmce that
■ly he combined with it, and an accurate Ex.imination of
■Q the Confequences that may be produced by it.
* Some of thefe Circumflances ur Confe^uences, it is tin
Ai^of every Member to lay before the Houliej and I fhall
iMlore propofe, that the Inducements to the Difcovcry of
ny Proriflons illegally exported, and the Manner of k-vy.
^thi Forfeiture, may be panicularlyd ifcufll'd { for by a
Kfeainthu Part, tfae Regulation lately clUbliQicd by tl-.e
Kcgcncy,
Idlenefs prompted him to matntaiD bis Family t
more eafy than that of daily Labour, was delight
ProfpeA of growing Rich on a ludden by a iac
All the Seditious and the Profligate combined i
the Welcome Empioymcnt of Violence and R
when they had once raifed their Expeflations, tl;
imall Danger, lell their Impatience ofDifappointi
determine them to conclude, that Core, where
was deiigned tor Exportation, and to fcize it a
Prize.
' Thus, Sir, by an imprudent Regulation, was e
Property brought into Hazard, and his Perfon i
the Inlults of a hungry, a rapacious, and un
Rabble, let loofe by a public Proclamation, and i
to fearch Houfes and Carriages by an imaginary 1
* That we may not give Occafion to Violence ai
of the fame kind, lei us carefully conftder the Mtal
are propofed before we determine upon their Pro|
pats no Bill on this important Occafion without fa
ration as may leave us nOEhisg to change or to rep
Mr. Earl.
S I F,
Mr. Earl. * Nutwith Handing the Dangers wliich hare b
fentcd as lilcely lo ariie from any Error in the [
of ttiis great Aff^r, I cannot but declare my Opi
no Dei^y oufjht to be admitted, and that not eve
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^liRiitiei equilly to be dreadcJ with the Conrrquencr; of
iTOtrafting our Debates upon it, equal to die Mjierics of <i
rsRiine. or the Danger of enabling our Enemies co llorc
dttir MgAzincs, to equip their Fleets, and viftunl tticir
Gftrrj 'iins.
* ]f it could be irragined that there wis in this Hruis a
UijcCl of France or Sp-iir. ZL-a:oi s fur ihe S-rvice of liis
Princef and tlie Prol'perity of his Country. I fii ■■■Id txpeft
Ah be would fummon ail hit Facu'ties to rc-.d [li Pro-
pcft of this Bill, that he would emp!oy all hi^ Sophiltry
tobew its Inconveniency und Imperfjclion*. and •exnaull
kilUvention to fuggcll the Dangers of Haiie ; and certainly
Im could do nothing* that would more efFcftually pr'imote
Ae laierell of his Countrymen, or tend more to eniecble
Wdeprtrs the Power of the firitilli Nation,
. * If this would naturally be the Condud of an Enemy, it
W liDRrffary to prove that we can on!y be uft.- by ading
jH OppofittOQ to It, and 1 think it luperfluou; to vindicate
'Wf Ardour tor promoting this Hill, when it ii evident that
lilbDib^ wculd be plcaling to the Spaniard.
Mr. • Barrel.
* Si«.
t' If tkia Law be necclTiry at any Time, it cannot now Mr. Barrel.
dihy'd, for a few Days Ip, nt in Deliberation may make
_^ilcfiftual, and that Evil may be palt of which we lie
PtaiCDncriving the Prevention.
'..% ' Thv many Contrads, Sir, for the Exportation of Pro*
^^Ou are already made in all the iVfjriiinie Parts tif ihe
Wi hgdonii ii generally known ; snd it requires no great Sj-
Iwiy to difcover th^it thofc by whom they are made, and
*Mde with a View of immente Prcfit. are dcfirous that they
^>7 be executed j and that they will (uon compltac the
^Mccaiioo of them, when they are alitrmed with tie Appre-
Elion ofa Bill which in a few Days miy.take fum tii^m
Power ofexporting what they have already coHefled, and
■Jk iheir Gain from them when it i>almr>(t in their Hands.
^* A Bill for tbel'e PurpolcJ, Sir, ought to fa't upon the
^^Ira&ori like a I'uddcn Blow, of which they have no Warn-
^|(v Dread ; againlt which they ihciefore cannot provide
'^ Secnrity, and which tht-y can neither elude nor refiii.
i* If we allow them a fhsri 'I'ime, our Expedients wiU be
** little Benefit cu the Nation, wl.icb isrvcry D^y impi>-
^fii'd by the Exportation of the NecviTinei of Life, in
^li Quantities, that in a few Weeks the Law, if it be p^if-
VoL. V'il. Y y led
Smb-Oovtffiiur tf tbi Souti.' S*'a Csii^'anft
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fed, may be without Penalties, (or there will be no ToSShi.
Ihy of difobcying it.'
Sir John Barnard.
S I R,
Sir John * I cannot difcover the Necefiity of prcflifig the Bill witli
Barnard. fuch Precipitation, as mult neceil'arity exclude miny ufeful
Confiderations, and may produce Errors extremely dange-
rous ; for I am not able to conceive what Inconveniencies
canarife from a Qiort Delay.
( The Exportation of Proviftons from Ireland is at prefent
flopped by the Proclamation : and the fieef which was de-
figned for other Nations, has been prudently bought up by
the Contraflors, by which thofe Murmurs have been in a
great Meafure obviated, which naturally arife from Dilap*
pointmcDts and Loflcs.
' There is therefore. Sir, no Danger of Exportation!
from that Part of our Dominions, which is the cJiief Market
for Provilions, and from whence our Enemies have been
generally fupplicd: In Great Britain there is left Danger
of any fuch pernicious Traffic, both bcciufc the Scarcity
heft has raifed all Provifions to a high Price, nnd becauw
Merchants do not immediately come to a new Market.
' The Bill, at leall, ought not to be paflcd without Re-
gard to the general Welfare of our Fctlow-SubjeQs, nor
without an attentive Confideration of thofe Petitions which
have been prefcnted to us ; Petitions not produced b^
panic Apprehenfions of imaginaiy Dangers, or diftant Pro-
Ipcits of Inccnveniencies barely poflible, but by the certain
Forefight of immediate Calamities, the total DeHruflion of
Trade, and the fuddcn Dcfotation nf flourilhing Provinces.
' By prohibiting the Ex porta t tun of Rice, we fliall. Sir,
jn one Year, reduce the Colony of South Carolina below tbc
Poflibiticy of fubfilling i the chief ProduA of that Country,
the Prodijfl which induced us originally to plant ir, ana
with which all its Trade i: carried on, is Rice. With Rice
rhe Inhabitants of that Province purchafe all the other Nc-
cefTaries of Life, and among them the Manu&£lurcs of oar
own Coimtry. This Rice is carried by our Merchants to
other Parts of Europe, and fold again for large Profit.
' That this Trade is very important appears from the
Number of Ships which it employs, and which, without
1,nding. muft rot in the Harbours, if Rice be not excepted
from the general Prohibition. Without this Exception, Sir,
it is not eafy to fay what Numbers, whofe Stations appear
|. very different, and whofe Employments have no vifible Re-
^^ iation to each other, will be at once inTotvcd in Caltnity,
reduced
»
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wdaccd to ftidden Dinrrft, sod obliged to feek new Mctlit
.- . ,r.-.^rrirg ibcir F;imilics. The SaiJor. tbe ^'Iercha^ti]
.'.ht, titC Manu&iHarer, with all ilie Subonlina-J
pluymenl thu( depend upon ihm, all that fu|:
diem with Materiih, or receive Advaongr from [hctM
almoft att the Subjefli of the BriciAi CrQ»B mt ~
at lo(t in fotne OrgrL-e, by the Ruin cfCaroltna.
' <r otiglil the Danger of the Sugar Iflands, anJ othei
CI, lefs [4 ilLrm our Apprehenfiom, excite our Co mil
ar employ our Con (i deration, fince Dothing is more
limn ibat, by paiLng this Bill without the Excepiicmt
: rciitioDi propose, u'c [lull reduce one Pirt of
. J to the Want of Bread, and confine the other to
sn cochingeifej for they fubfiii by the Exchsr-ge of
fioduftt :o which the Soil of each Country ii pcoi-
ptcd : One Province aftord* no Corn, and the other
Ms Inhibitsnii with Corn only.
The NccefBiy of expediting this Bill, howevei it hat
faeea exa^gcrued. it not To urgent but that we may be al<
lowed 1'inne fttfiicictit to conrider for what Purpofe a n to
paiTvd, and to rccotlc£l that notbiog it dcfigncd by it. but
.9 £tndcr o*jr Enetnici tsom being fupplied (rem the BritiHi
aiinion:with ProviEont, by which they might be enabled
ore pftwcrfally 10 carry OD the War agaioft ut.
To this DelJgii no Objedion has been made, but it i*
^■■n Icaowfl, ihm a goorf Knd may be defeated by nnabfuni
Choke of Mcaaa: and I >m an abl: to diftovcr how we
flnll inoeale our own Strength* or diminifli that of our
B*cmi«r. by compelling one Part ofoar fcllow-Sabjc£l> to
ftuve the other.
■ It U ii«nTiry, Sir, tn prohibit the Exportation or Corn
to the Pottj <.fc^UT Eneitiie*, and of thofc Nanoni liv whicll
cMT Eftemio will befupptreJ, bjtfurcly it ii of noUfc toex-
cturic iny Part of our own Oominions frotn the Privilege of
£ fuppIicJ from another. Nor can any Argnmcn; be
in Defence of inch a Law, that wilt not prove, with
r4«al Force, that Corn ought to remain in the fime Granaries
wnciv it ti DOW laid, that all the Aliikm in ihit Kingdom
Aiould be fufpcnded , and that no MaufllOilld be allowed to
Ml Bread trj ;inoihef.
• Tbert i), indeed. Sir. a Poflibility that the Liberty for
wbkli I contend may be ufed to wicked Purpofcj, md that
f<M»e Men may be incited by Po/erty or Avarice to carry the
F.oemy thole Provifioni, which they pretend to export to
BTitifh Province!. Bnt if we are to rcfulccvrry Power that
i
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fvcTV Man that has the Power of AAion, maj' fometimn
aam.
' It is, btiwcver, prudent to obliru£t criminal Actrmpis
even w).t-n wc r^'u^oc liupc entirely to defeat them, and
thcri'fc^ic I am o( Opitiign, that no Proviflon; oueht lo be
^xporteJ wiihoui luine i>lechud of Security, by which the
Governors ut cvi*:-/ ['i.>ce may be DfTured that they will be
convi'yed tooui otMi Loloni:-s. Such Securities will r.-iri?y be
conti''Vt;<l. anJ mity be K'gulated in 3 Manner that they Ihall
nut bebCfV:<tt;ii v^ithout fuch IJaziri), Hb the Frotii ihut can bs
cxptcled I'lCiin illegal ConiiiiCfCc:, will not be able lo cam-
pen Ip.tc.
It I; thcrcf jre, S'r, proper to deliy the Bil fo long at Itaft
a: th.t we pi.iv proiucr: by it the Hdds intemicd, snd ciiltrrfi
our Enemiej iiK)7e tl:an curfelvc* : that we may fecurc Plenty
{i; Heme, vv'itliouc the Dertruflioii of our 'diUmit Cclonict,
and without ob iglng Part cf our FtlloW-Subje^U todcfcri U
^he Spaniards fur Want of Bread.'
Mr. Buivies.
V- Ii.3?lca. ' '^'^^ NcccSty of excepting Rice from the genenl Pro*
""" hibitian is net on!y ful^ciently evinced by the i^geni* of
South CarclinSj but cunrirmed beyond Cuntroverfy or Doubt
by the Petition ol the Merchants of fiiiliol, of which the
judice and Rcufonr.Llcnels appears at the Aril View to every
Wan acquaintiJ with ilic No'.ure of Commerce.
' How much the Prov.nceof S'ufh Cirolina will bedif-
trelTcd by thij Pioiiibition, how ludL'er.ly the whole Trade of
that Country will b>; at a Stnr.i!, and how immciliately the
Want of many of the NccefTuries of Lile wilj be felt ever a
very coiiiideiab'c P^it of the liiiciili Dominion*, haialreicj,
S^r, been vi.ry p.ithctically reprelcnted, and very clearly ex-
plained, nor does there need bny other Arguments to pcr-
iuadc us to allow the Kxporl'ition of Kicc.
* But, from the Petition of the Merchants of Briftolit ip-
peari, that thtre (.re other Ke;i!or.s cf tquai Force for this In-
dulgence, and I hat our Regird for the In habitants ot th>t par-
t'.cu!;.r Province, ho;.vevei ncceiLry ardjull, i& not ihc only
AiOLi^c loi ccmpiying with their Rcquclt.
f ]tif. ilicv.n. Sir, in this Fttition, that the Prohibition of
JliLc win tety li:tle incommoiie o-ir Enemies, or retard their
P/' p^rntlons ; fur they ;.re not accuiiumed to be fnpplird
V. .~ii it :rom uur Piant<itipn5. We ought, therefore, not to
lo-d 0^1 I'ellow-SubjkiAs with Cnibarrafmcnts and Inconve-
i:iciicics, which WiU not in any Degree extend cocor fne-
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k s|»ptan. Sir. net only chat a very impomnt Put
. rnaiercc wDl be obftruflid. but ihii it will proKablf <
b«yoiiil RtCiiMry ; far, at ooly a fmall Quaotiiy of
c of LKroIin^ ij conCunicd at Hcunr, and itte rell ii
to aU'Ct CouBfio, ]t 15 eafy to conceive chit ihors
lU oc J>rjipfM>n<rtl by our Mercbtmi will procure (a'
y a ConKiiiAlity fota other Placci,u there are niRny'
rhich ic miy bccaiiiy purcha^cdt and it is well knuwa
Trade, if k be once diverted, is not to be recalled, and'
Lbal Ti^Je wtu<:h m»y be wiiltcuc Diiticaliy tranr.^
aupUt iicrcr CO be iotcrrupted \wittiout the molll
- - r , ->'''i ('"< t^ere is now no foch Neceffity, hy \
* imi; I'raiouf Argutpena, would be (upeiRuutu. furltbai'
J---,- .' -v..,^ alfe^dy, that our F.ncmicj will rot fuffer by ibe
And the Kliicrics thic inevitably arife from a
_ ui i<af ate too numcroui and opprrflive, to admit oF
lacrcafcor Ag^ravatiuo upon criviil Muttirn.
TIm Province of L'lrali&i, Sir, hii already InSercd the
aecMvenicncici of ihii War beyond any other Part of hu
■Jrfly'k U i^TKniriii:, fti it i) fitoKed upon the Borden of
iSFuniili fl-uiMr.i ti), and ai it it weak by the Paucity of
11 i'laponinn til its Extent: l*t us therefore
n-g.rd lothit I'etifion. Icll we aggravate the
^K »*Ui^li the N'ciyhboufhooJ of a powciful Kncmy
lly produces, by the ftvcrc Miic/ici of Poveny and
line.
Ser Robert Wslpolc.
S I R,
f Nothing il mote abfurd than for thofe who declare on sirKob
ill CVcafioAf , with gicac Solemnity, their fiocere Zeal for the WalpOlc
' of tl>e Pubitc, to proiraA the Debates ofthii Houfe
> iv««l Invc^ljvei, aod delay the Proiccutioii of ihc Bufi>
of the ^>ation, by trivial Oaje^honi, repeated after
ilion, knd perhapt after Convi<Iioii of their lovali.
« I oc*J DM obrcrve how amch Time would be fpar«d,
aad %of much the Ditpaich of A£tirt would be facilitated,
by 1 . ttcJCod of lht» Pradice, a Pra/tice by which
Tr J melted with Falftiood, and Kttowlcdgc with Ig-
aoxAtice ; lince. ifSnirrility and Merntneatarc to deurmine
■a. it i( i»ot acceSUty eitfaer to be honctt or wile to obaio
Supcrwrity io any J>cbatCi it will oniy be necciliry to
l»i] and to laugh, which one KUo may generally peifbrm
wkh Ai much SiKccU ai uiotbcr.
TU
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it Embargo in Ireland wai ao Expedient fo nccdftif
limely, tluc the Repti'jtion of it is thought loo gmt
« allowed to the Adminilt ration, of whom it hat beca
many Years the hard Fate to hear their AAicMis cm^
td, only becaufe they were not the Aflions of otbert, ut
be reprefen'ed at TrayiQrs to their Country, for doilic ■!•
lyi what they thought befl themrelvet, and perhaps lona*
inics what was in reality approved by tbofe whooppoM „'^
.hem. ■ ^■, .^ 2^-
* This, Sir, they have borne without mtidi Unea£aefi, Hd* 'J^ e ""^l^
have, contented ihemleves with the Conlcioufnefi tif douM^'^^; ''' \^
riglir, in Expeftation thnt Truth and Integrity muft at mt '^^ -^ ^
pievaili and that the Prudence of their Condu£b and SiMceft t'f, -^ ^
of their Mcalures would at laft evince the JuJliae of Chdr ^ .';^ \ "
Intentions. ';'-"^ - "
* They hoped. Sir, that there would be Tome Occafiaaa m ~.' ' " --*; '
which their Enemies would not deny the Kxpedienee of tbdr ' ~:^ ^
Counfels, and did not expcfl that alter having been lb long ' \"'^ ■
accufcd of engrolTing exoibitant Power, of rejecting Ad^cr, ■'■ '■' "- -: "
and purfuing their own Schemes with the moil inviaciblo '"';' ' r
Obflinacy, they Qiouid bcAippufed on a fudden to havelail '} 'e^ .V '
afide their Arrogance, to have deicended to adopt tbo Opiai- \"'l' *=^ ^ ■
ons, and give ihemfelves up to the Dirtdioo of otbert. oolf -.'-y.^ -^^ ^
becaufe no Obji-'Aion could be made to this Inttancc of ikcir. '''-
Conduft. fi. - ^.' ,
* How unhappy, Sir, mu& be the State of that Man who ' - - - '
is only allowed to be a free Agent, when be a£t> wrong, aod -'■•S. -' ^
wbofe Mocioni., whenever they tend to the proper Poiat, are ^'^ '-T ' ^
fuppofed to be regulated by another ! ••• I "_
« Whether fuch capricious Ccnfurers expe£l that any Re- '''': c- ^'
gard fhould be paid by die Public to their Inveflivci, I am sot ~-'.^ S^
able to determine, but 1 am inclined to think fo well of tbrir :.::- "■ -^
U»dcillandjng<, at to believe that they intend only toaanft '"--i ^ "
thentfelves, and perplex thofe whom they profefi tooppofe. ' ''
In one Part of their Scheme I know nut but they may have u, t.'^ •
fucceeded, but in the nibrr it in evident how gCDCially cbey Tr.; s ^'
have failed. It muft at leall. Sir, be obfcrved of tfaefe great ■--;„* -^
patrons of the People, that if they exprd to gain them by
Aitificcs like this, ihey have no high Opinion of their DiT-
cernnicnt, however they may fometimes magnify it ai the
JjII Apfca),and highcft Tiibunal.
* V^ i h regard. Sir, to tlir Manner in which the Embargo
w^i laid, and the Kxpedicntii made iiCe'of to enforce the Ob-
icrvaciiin of ic, they were net the Effi:fls of a fudden Refo-
lution, but of icng and d£liSeraie Refl(Aioo, affilled by the
Councils rf the molt experiniced .and judicious Ferfoni of
i>ciii i\2tioiis, \z thai if any Millake was committrdf it pro-
ceeded
•^■<^
(
; from Arrogince or CaKJcfMieff. but a ComplruCf
If. ihii, if Iflid before tbe UouJc^ would, wbcilicr
r. !ic a"owcO to bcfpccious
Doi a^-pcarcd chatiny improper Meafurci
!, Of tb^I any JocoDvciticnciet tiavc aiil'cn
■ 'iLh It wajs i^iojTilile to have avoitied by a dtSe-
1 : far when fcr.y Expedient fails of praduciog
for nhicli it wxi prepoica, or glTei OccaQoa to In-
iienc«! ivliich were neither expeOed nor dcAgited, il it
tmncdiiccly to be condemned i for it might hiil from
f '' ..,^Vi ti nothing could furawont, and the Ipcoove-
1 are complatDcd of, migbi be the Confequences
rr \_nitei atting HI the (amc time, or coM>perating»
the Nature of Thing), but by tbe Pnilicci of tbelt
icirown Intercll to tiiat of their Country,
: is, in my Opmtor, c:ify to defend (be Condttft
.\]iQ]!tfy. I am f»T from thinking this a propcrTime
f»«»E»^,e in their Viftdicaiion. The importaot Bufinefa
nuD now whoijv crgige us, nor ought we to em*
Artfrtion upon the pill but the future. Whatever
or^nce or Knowledge, wlutenr the Cor-
lr .■•■■ dF the Minillry, this Bill ii equiUy ui'e*
ly : The Q^cllion it now concerning aa
i'. , not of tbe Minittry, and the Biiljuay
rtthoac obitruciing tuturc Kxaminatiuo).
Bir, Sir, now before uh b^ fo fir approved u 19
iycd uf any renl Benefit to the N':):ion, if it an, «|
)te to the DiUrefi or JJiUppGiniment o[ our Eae*
iW'i or the PievcntioD of chore domcllic l>il1urbiL0ce>
;^ — ■■Murafly proJucckJby Scarcity and Mil'dy; thtrt
:* Arsumenti to evince ibe NecclTuy of Undtf-
pj^ng It. For if tbc|e ECcilt are lobe produced
linQ ibc Exporution of ProviiJaiM, and a Liw is
. it ii cTitain that the Law mud,
<Goni SIC yet In our H^nd^ and
'] lif^*n given foi' the ExccutiOQ cf ibtifis,
i:e .-klrcul^ made.
tt. Sir. are entered into for Qijantitiea thac
r,re of (he Legiliiivc Po»vrr. I h;ive bcca
hf fi>ch IniclligcDCe ai I c^nno*. t deccir*
'me. fn one ftiiHi' "Town in the Vt<. . t of ihU
:v ibanUnd Bjrreh of Corn aic luiJ by Con*
■■ i bccxpqritrd, if lime be allowed (or coUc^ng
ipping thcai. ,
Cu,itA<\i like ibii will be ruSifieni to flore an
I. or to furniA) CitrritDn! agaiolt the Dan-
.^. . ^ few CoatraAi like tbu wUl pi^ucc a cqq-
l^dcnblc
ttiejrwereot little weight; and 1 believe they had i
£fic& upon thofe that heard them. It may thercfo:
fouibty fupporcd, that the Propriety of a Law to pi
Exportation of ViAnals is admitted, and furely it <
Quedion. whether it ought to be prefTed forwird
delayed till it will be of no effeft.*
Mr. Fazakerley.
S 1 R,
Mr. Fizakcr- ' Aa the Bill now under oar Confideratioa is
ley. with a Multitude of Circumllances too important to
by without ConfidfcratioD, and too numerous lo b
examined ; as its Effects, whether lalutary or p
mult extend to many Nations, and be felt ia a fe
to the remotell Parts of the Dominions of Great '■
cannot but think, that they, who fo much prefs (b
lion on this Occafion, conrult rather their Priffions i
Rcafon, that they difcover rather Enthufiarm than
that by imagining that they hare already traced i
of a Liw like this to their nimofl Extent, thry di
ther an immoderate Confidence in their own Capa
give any Proofs of that anxious Caution, and delib
deflce, which true Patriotifm generally produces.
* There is another Method, Sir, of proceeding i
per on this Occafion, which Jiasbeca already poin
ifati Debate, a Method of exciting the Prerogative
ncr allowed by Law, and eftabliflied by immemoi
( 353 )
• Let ui not hh]t&. the Coinmon-weahli to a hsurdoiis
and uncertain Security, while we have in cur H.iiids the ' -
means of producing the fame Erd, with lefs Dan^er.ird Ir'
CODveniency; and, fincewc may ohvtate the Expurti.ioii 'f
ear Corn by Methods more fpeedily efficacious than the
Forms of making Laws can allow, let as not opprels our
FeUow-Subje£ls by hilly or imprudent Meafures, hut make
Ufe of temporary Expedients, while we deliberate upon the
Sfisblilhinenti of a more lalUng Regulation.*
Mr. Campbell.
Si«.
■ That ao Embargo on Merchandize or Provlfions, in<iy Mr.CampbcUj
■pon fudden Emergencies, or important OccaAons, be im-
paCed by the Prerogative, cannot be doubnd by any Man
vkofe Studies have made him acquainted with the Extent of
A> Regal Power, and the manner in which tt has been ex-
cned in all Ages. The chief Ufe of the Prcrog.itivc is to
Sapfifthe Defeds of the Laws, in Cafes which do rot ad>
auti^ long Confultations, which do not allow Time to con-
FarliamentSf or enquire into the Sentiments of the
* For this ReafoOf in Times of War, the Royal Power
ia wnch calarged, and hat ftiU a greater Extent as Exigencies
tm man preffiag. If the Nation is invaded by i foreign
Wmstt the Authority of the Crown is almoft without Li<
Mlh-s ■ the whole Nation is cooCdered ai ao .Army> of which
At Kiag ia General, and which he then governs by mar-
lU Jjcwtt by occafional judicature, and extemporary De-
* Such, Sir, is the Power of the £ing oa particular
Bacrgenctes. and fach Power the Nature of human A&irs
■Vft iiDBictimes require ; for all Forms of Government are
■laadcd for common Good, and calculated for the ellablifhed
Oaadition of Mankind, but mull be fufpeoded when they
eaa oaly obArud the Purpofes for which they were cootriv-
■d» aad ninft vary with the Circumflances to which they
9tn adapted. To exped that the People jhall be confulted
ka Qaaftioai cm which their Happinefi depends, fuppofes
IhlK il an Opportunity of confulting them without hcizard-
b^thuT Lives, their Freedom, or their PofleOions, by the
Fanni of Deliberation.
• The Necel&ty of extending the Prerogative to the Ex-
SCaiciei of Power, ii, I hope, at a very great Dillance
fnMi Ui but, if the Danger of the Exportation of ViAuals
tf fo orgeat u fomc Gentlemen have reprefented it, and fo
omiiMSIe as it appears to the whole Nation, it is furely
Vob. VIL Z z requifite
r • ■ :.. ■■■i- :.:)'t:.') i; 'c 'mi thii Occnfuii expn
' ■ v :'-ia: .-iny Ambiguity of Lingu-ge
I f tut, I am in doubt whcihcr 1 do nc
inf, nnd r-Tinnt, wi:^oiit Htfitntion a
;, : II I'ole (he Mciinr to which all their ^
. 11.1. tii.riy to icrduifl me ; Arguinerts of v
i,o' <: ry (he K.rci-. and whith I fti-iM i-.otatCrnpt
(■ c h\ fliph- 0;j tlVons, when I sir corivirced la
iiiL-ir He ..'t..:! [Ill Is and TiLlh,
• 'i'lic NiTffliry of tiiR: Dil'patch which F ba
voored :o ircuinnnrpil, is not only univerfally ado
cffirmrd to L« lb p'elTing, that it cannot wait for i
nity of IwKutes, or the common Forms of p.Ci
The Uarp'T, which h every Moment tncrealing,
in theOpiii'oti of thtfe GentUmen, to be obvi^ied
oritir ry Mealurcs ; and ih&t ]?ernicious Ccmmen
threitiLiu ti e Diltrefs of the Ccmmiiniiy, is to be
by an iir.meri'>ie Ad of the Prerogative.
• If this be the Opinion of the Hout'c.it will bt
t" Iny i; bclore hi> Majcily by a regular Addrcii
NatiuP mjy be convmccd of the NecelHty of lucl
dinnr) l^tecHution, that the Embargo may be ir
o> IV. with thr Fxpedition peculiar tu defpotic Powc
^n.hority which can be conferred only by pari
Sii'A'ons.
• Whether this it the Intemion of the Memb
wl'iifi- Declarations I havededuced it,-canonIy bei
( 355 )
•WD ExprelTions, Twill rreely declare, tliat I am fulJicieiitly
' uderltood by ihc Right Honourable Gentleman, und tn.u. m
nj Opinion, no Remedy ccn be applied to the prelent DiC-
taDper of the Nation, a Dillcmper by which it is hourly
[ pniag away, by which its Vtr.!s are impiircJ, and the ne.
'.' ftflary Nourifhment withdrawn from ii, that will cpcr.te
- *ith fofficient EBicacy end Speed, except an Embargo be im-
fofcd by the Prerogative.
• That this Opinion, if received by the Houfe, mud be
Ae Snbjeft of an Addrefi, is in itfclf mdiiii'Vlti and the
fta&n for which an Embargo is required, proves that an
AUnfs ought not to be delayed.
' I caonoc omit this Opportu.iity of remarking, how
fUnly it mull now appear that many of us h-ive been uri-
. Jitty charged with obltrufling the Prcgrefs of the B.' for
fniinous Purpo{es, with Views of raill>-g Dilconteiicb in
Bthfition, of expofing the Adminiflrntion to public Ila-
V Md, of obftrufling the Meafurcs of the Govcrnmei't, or
'**'"'" ' r- . tr, when We h^vc rccciiej
Vended ihr Ii fijr'icc < f
faciliwting -\n Exy-e-
4faK which may promote the general Advantige, by recom-
•^ wading his MajeDy tothcAfFc^lioos of hisPeuple.'
Mr. Henry Pelham.
Si >,
■ I am &r from blaming any Gentleman for aflert-ng, on Mr Htniy.
«H Ooafions, the Integrity cf his Defigns, or dispuyirg ''-iiuiii.
ifca Reafooablenefs of his Condufi ; and of what I du not
difi^prove. I Qiall notdecliric the Imitation.
* It is got uncommon, in the Heat of Oppofiticn, while
Wdl Man is convinced of his own Honeily. and itrorgiy
■erftiaded of the Truth of his own Pofiiions, to hear each
rar^ accufed by the other of Defigns detrimental to the
Mblic Intereft, of protrading Debates by artful Delays, of
■nggUng againfl their own Convi^ion, aiid of oi^fcurirg'
kaown Truth by Objeclious which difcover ihemfelve& cu i>e
miholu Pdrce.
• Theft Accufations, which are on both Sides fref;ntrnt.
M« I hope, on both Sides generally falfe ; at le.-ill it muft
MpCBr 00 this Occafion, that ihofe who pre!' the Btll h^U no
riaws of flrengthening their Party by a Viftury, df wcprv-
mg their Opponents by Oiiltinicy, or of piomoting any
mvnxe Purpoles by a new Liw ; fmce an Kxpcdient, by
iluch tiipe may be gained, and the avowed Knd of haften-
Wg thii DCcelTiry 6-11 fecured, is no fooner propofed on one
'art, Uun xeccived on the other.*
Z I a The
( 356)
.The following Ihort Debate occaritd oa the QoeftuM
when the Bill fttould commence,
Mr. Campbell.
S I R.
M OmiDbell. * '^*"* ^^^ lav/% may be obferved by the NatioB withaqt
' daily Violence and perpetual Compiilfion, that our Deter*
mioations may be received with Reverence* and the Rcgub-
tioDt wbicb we eltablifh confirmed by the Concurrcoce «f
our Conlticuents, itis ncccflaiy that we endeavour to prcjem
their Elleem, and convince them that the public Pn^cri^
may be fafely trulted in our Hands.
' This Confidence la to be gained ai well in high Stuioti,
a> in lower Condition*, by large Aflemblies as by lodnW
duals, only by a conflant Praflice of Juftice. aod freqoai
Exertion oi liiperior Wifdom. When any Man fiodl Jh
Friend oppreffive and malicious* he natoi^y withdrawi Jib
^fB^ions from him ; when he obfcrves him advancing i^
furtl Opinions, and adhering to ihem with Obllinacy iMi-
pablc of Convidion, he falls unavoidably into a Difttrfrf
his Uade[it.'.iiiiiTig, and no longer pays any Defereoce to ik
Advice, or coiiliUcrs hii Conduct as woniiy of Imituiaa.
* In the iamemanner, Sir, if thelcgiflative Powen (USf
in making Laws, difcover that they regard any Motif eib-
fore the Advantage of their Couniry^ or thu tfary fHaftK
the public Good by Mcafures inadequate and ilt-conccndt
what can be expeAeJ from the Pcop e, but tlia: they flmaH
fct up their own Jungment in Opposition tu tliat of tis
Governors, make ihemleives the Ariiiteri io all doflblU
Quellions. and obey or dilregurd the Laws at DtfcretiMF
• If this Danger may arife from Laws injudiciouHy dilfl
up, it may furely be apprehended Irom a C'ompttaocc mk
tnis Propofal i a Propofil that the Operatioo of the Id*
fliuulvi commence eleven Days before the Law ittdi it it
Being.
■ J have hitherto, Sir, regarded it as a Principle, eqai4
true in Politics as io Philosophy, that nothing can aA wkl
it does not exill ; and I did not fufpcd that a Pafickniio
dent would ever llandin oeed of a Proof or IIIuAiacion,
' We live indeed in an Age of Pjradoxes, and h^ra
fcveral Notions feriouily deicnijed, of which fome woaULnOl
many Years ago, have condemned their Abettor to a hifaB
or a Madhoufe, and would have been heard by the wifaftel
our AnceElors with Laughter or Deteilatioo i but I did MKCl*
yrQ. that the mod Hardy Innovator would have flwck'd iV
L'nderlUnding with a PofitJon like this, or hare aflnndita
a Law may operate before it is made, or befiue it ia pnge^tad.
■ Xh«
( 357 )
Ttal where tbe/e ii no L«w there ii do Trtftrgreffion^
ux oaljr rllibliibcd by imiveriil Conlrnc.but m
fmitm mad andeoiablc t and it is. Sir, larcly no Icii cer-
, iMi wbcre ilMre it ao Tnofgrri&oa there caa be oo
Mui na^ br paaiftied, -Sir. bf a Law made after the
kow cin any Man conclude himielf fecure (rota the
at tbc Gibbet? A Man miy cafily find Mcani of be-
iB ihac be Kas olTeniled no Law in being, but that
d no gTcac SatiitiAion to a Miod nicarall^r timorotn ;
I Law hetutter l^ be taa.de, may, if this Moiion be
liaiuble, CakecognizJocc afhis Akrons; and how
Inww whether be haj been equally [crupuloui to ob-
foiure Sutucc) of fatunt PailUmcutSi he will find it
uJt 10 (leiermiiw.*
iir. Henry reibara.
■vttbf!andicg tbe Abfurdiiy nhich tTie Honourabk v, p t
GcKiesaao imaginci hjmrcll'*to have dirtuvocd in thji Pro- '' '
■^If iBci whKh he malt be confeHed to tuve placed in t
tvy firoBg Light, I nm cf Opinion, that it may, with rery
Ikdc Con&deraiiun, be reconciled to Realun inJ to jitAice,
mJ Ami the VVic and Sanre chjc have been (o tibrnlly rm-
will appear to hafc been loilin cbe Air, witboui U:<
ritUoa: [■■ j-jiy.
■yt-r 1 1 ,f rut ion of the t<3w stay very properly commnice
Kran on which the Embargo was hid by t,i» Ma-
jcfti'i I iun..^jnation, which I'utely wai cot ilTucd to nn I'ur*
pev, and which ought doc to bcdilobcycd without funiQi-
I
Sir Jok&Bircurd.
S I a*
■ 1 onaat not be foBitwhaC rurprifec?, l!iata Genileman fa Sir John
loBt: iit in national Affairi, fhoulu not yw have heard B*i»*nL
ftt ki._ . c Dificrcnct between a PracIainatioaaDd a Pcaal
U».
* Bf n PrDclunatton hit MajeAy may prevent in fome
^fin wim be cannot punini, he may hinder ihr luportition
si oar L'orA fay ordering Sbipi to c-c llatiuned nt the Entr&ncA
«f mat liarbourii but if any fhouid efcapc with prohibited
^rgoca, be can inftjA oo Feoaliics upon them at their
iUum.
• To enibrce thii Prohibition by the ^vanftion of Punifb-
ii the Inientiun oi [he present Biil. buC a J'roclaina-
can make nnihing c-rimirul, and it it unjuiL and ftbluili
ID ponih an Attioa wbich wu icgal «bca U Mas done.
' - Tie
r 358 )
■ The Law ought* Sir, in my Opinion, not to commence
till Time is allowed for difperfirg ic to the ulmott Limits of
thislfljnd; for as it is unrcaionabie to punifh wirhout Law,
k is not more equitable to punifh by a Law, of which, tkrjr
who have unhuppiiy broken it could have no Intciiigcnce.'
A longer Day was agreed to.
JijlraS of tbt Bill to frnent the T.xpsrtatkn t/ Core, tfe.
aiid if the Claufii rtjtded.
*' Whereas the Exportation of any Si>rt of -Grain fRice
excepted) Meal, Malt, P'lour, Bread, fiifcuil. Starch, Ijccf,
Pork, or Bacon, out of Great Britain or Ireland, and the
Co'onies or plantations in America, or the Dominionibe
lodging to the Crown of Great Britain in Europe, may at
this 'lime he greatly prejudicial to his Majclty's Subject;,
[ (A] and the fame, as the Law now (lands, cinnot be eilcc-
lualiy rcltraincd ; and whereas a proper Power of rellraining
the fame upon any Emergency is »t prefcnt neceiEiiy. (A; j
Be it therefore enafted by the Kind's moft excellent Majeily,
by and with the Advice of, &c. [ (Bj that from and after
the Diy of it fhill be lav.fal for his Majelly, bjr
Order of Council, to command or empower the Lord Lieute-
nant, or Lords Juflioes of Ireland, or the Governors of our
. Plantations, to ilfue forth Prcc!am.tiions tor prohibitfng the
Exportation of all or any Corn, Grain, A:c. (except ai after
excepted) and be it farther cnr.£tcd, that ifanyPerfon, &c.
fbalt, during the Time aforefaid, c:i'pcr{, or caufe to be eX'
porEcd, contrary to fuch Proclamation, Corn, Grain, &c.
if,e fame, together with the Ship or Vcffel, Tackle^ &c.
(hsll be forfeited, and the Perlbs fo cfTinding (hall
" Proi'idi'd that this Ad do no: extend to prohibit fncb
Corn, Provifioii!, &c. put on board and exported in his
Majcllj'j Ships or Privateers, ncceffary for their Compli-
ment, V'oynge, and Expedition which they flull be going
upon. I'his A61 to continue in Force until lod from
ihence till next Seflion of Parliament" B ]
•' That no Perfon before the 2 5 th of December 1741, fliall
directly or indireflly export from Great Britain or Ireland,
or other his Majelly 's Dominions in Europe, or the Britifli
Flart::tions, or toad on board any Ship or Vcfiel, in order
for Exportation, any Sort of Corner Grain (Rice excepted)
Mcr.I, iMa!r, Flour, Bread, Bifcuit, Starch, Beef. Fork, or
Eacoa. whe:hcr the Produce or not of the refpcflive Coun-
trie!>, under the Penalties and Forfeitures hereafter men-
tioned, that is, all Corn, &c. fo'^ut on board to be exported
Qiall be forfeited, and the OtFender Ihall forfeit 20 *. Tor
every Bufiict of Gr^in, and i s. for everj Pouid of Bread,
fiilcuit,
( 359 )
Kfeurr, Snrch, Beef, Fork, or Uncan, and alfo the Ship;
Veflelf Boat, Guns and Tackle lo be Ibrfeited, one Moii-;^
10 dtc King, and the other to him who null luc for the
Jkac f and all Perrons conviifle.1 of aiding w'lV'wg'.y u.t:ie-
it to be iiDpriiboed for three Months without B^ii.
'• I. And be it further enafted by, &c. That tlie Ctijcers
af the CuUoms may fcize ihu Corn, Meal, &c. not allowed
u cc exporied, which they ihall lind put on board any Ship
D be carried to the next Lullomhoure or King's VA'axi:-
*oufe.
•' X. Provided that this Aft extend not to prohibit the £z-
porcatioa or carrying out of Juch or To much ufthe (aid Coxn-
Mditica as ii necel£iry for any Ship, &c. in their refpe^ive
V^agcs, for the Suitenance, &;c. of the Commanders, Ma-
in, or Paflengcrs, of fuch Velfcls only ; or for the v]£lu:tl-
;any Ships in his Majclly's Service, or his Fores or Gar-
•« 3. Provided tint this A£l extend not to prohibit the
fitU Commodities to be carried Coallwife, giving Security,
■■d having a Certificate for Permit} to be returned in (ix
UoMhi.
«• 4. Provided that nothing herein contained extend to
pnbibit the exporting of Corn, &c. from the Plantations
■a Great Britain or Ireland, or from Ireland to Great Bri-
ttia, <K via verfa, on Security Bonds and returning Ccrri-
iEuei.
«■ f . Provided this Afl extend not to fuch Commndiiiet
exported from Great Britain or Ireland, or our Plantations, to
MuMTCa, Gibraltar, or our Fortj or Fa£lories in Africa, or
Colonin ia America, fuch Place to be declared by tJic Ex-
poner, and Bond given of treble Value to the Cullom Houfe
or Nival Officer, that they Ihall not be fold or landed in
way other Parti wiiich, if not profecuted in three Years, to
be void. That fuch Collcdlor or Naval Officer, when the
Suae Dull be landed, give Certificate to be returned to
bck Officer, within the Time after mentioned, as took the
Secant/, Danger of the Si;a exceptetl. Forger of a Certi-
ficate 10 lorfeic zoo /. or any Officer making out a falfe Cer-
tificate to forfeit that Sum and lofe Employment.
■* 6. Provided, that it {hall not extend to hinder the
Befl-Iedia Company from fending Stores to their Fadories
OB Security given.
« 7. Provided, that it ihall not extend to Wheat, Mdit,
or Barley, exported from Southampton only to Jcifey or
GoerDfey, on Security, &c. fo that it do not exceed five
tbouiaBd Qiianers fiom December the ift, 1740, to Decem-
ber the 25111, 1741.
*• 8. Be
( 3^0 )
»• J. Be Ii rnafini, thit the Govcmor of jisi&ii
powcfcd to intnift in)' Pcrfbn ot Repuratioa (O
viOoM to the Bay* of Hooduru and Citnpccbj
ce«ditig 6q Barrets, 200 Weight neb, is emt
Sontl (with one Security) of joo/. tht: it be for
hance of his MajeUx** bubjctii in the hid B*yt
Mutter and two of liu OfSccn making Oath of
Tcry fliall be a Ditcharge of the Bond.
•• 9. fie h further cnaAtd, thit the Conmifial
Culloiait Hiall git'e a full and true Accouu 10 be
at the Beginning of next SirlTion*, of til Grain, M
floor. Bread, Bifcuii, S:arch. Beef, I'ork aod
ported by Virtue of tbe Ubcitici bcreby gruUl
Purpofe.
« 10. Pnn-idcd th:s AB da not erieDd to Ibia
for Exportation before the 6ib of DcTrmbc/ 1
Provilion» clejtrcil out in GreAt Briuin, before Dn
35th. 1740, or in Ireland before Jin. to. 1740*1
UiioBs btfcn March tbc^ftb, 1741, but thu '
be permitted to proceed on iheir Voyagei.'*
On X Motion lor bringing in 1 61I], for tbc
icfand pavng the Strceu of Wefttaiolic;, apd tkt
ibcieci', the l-onl V ifraiutl I'yrcoaoct cjtfrcfip^ ,
Sabiiuice kt ioitoui ;
Si a,
totiTjrcotf * Tbo' the Grievarce uhich I sm about re lay 6
Houfc. ii Dol of the oiuli :'orniiilable or daogcron
At, it it fuch a« gtina every Day greater, and tadt
IHy cndittgeri the Urci cf Tbcuiindt, 1 hope it
be thoDght uiclefi or improper to propoTc St to ^
iilion of thii Affcmbly, to offer my Th.ii-chl* 00
thodi by whicn it may be moll ea&lr i :i^
four to incite ether) to ibe &ine Cod:
* hh impoflibic, Sir, to come (O C
from it, without OhlcrTation* on the ,.■-
thcStrecttof Wellirtafter; Obfetvadooj fivcad
Mas. hoMcrcr in»t:er.tire, or botvcrcr tttprlSeA
liaos of > difFrrent kind.
• The warmcil Zeal for public Happ^acfr ■*■-
otu Vigilance agaiofl geoenl Danger*, mot'
limej giTc wiy to ObjeAi tmmedute. ttio 01 ic-
fance, norwHI the molf public fpirited Mesifacn 6
they have oftea been in the Sutcct nUnBod
tioni, or fliockcd with Naricicei.
' The Ftlth. Sir, of fociie Pim of ibe Tcvft,
loc^uaiii/ afid Kuggednelii of otlicn, caasos
9
nel.
.1
( 3^0
py€s of Foreigners difgrace our Nation , and incline them to
■giDC U9 a People, no: only without Delicacy, but without
Ooircr«fficn:i a Ktrd of fiirbarians, or a Colony of Hoitea*
« The moll difgufting Part of the Chara£ler given by
Timvcllcrs, of the moll lavage Nations, is their Ncglud of
CtBtnliDcTs of which, perhaps, no Part of the World jitTardt
■ore ProtxTs, than the Streets of the Britifh Capital ; a City
fcwnne lor Wealth, Commerce, and Plenty, and for every
er kind of Civility and PuliteneU, but which aboundd
fach Heaps of filth, as a iMVHgc would look on with
■cment.
• If chKt be allowed which is generally believed, that Pu-
toc&Aion and Stench are the CauJes of pettilential Diltemper^;
ih^RcinaTal ot this Grievance, may be prelTed fi-om Mo-
iof far greater Weight thin ciiufeof Delicacy and Plea-
ts and I might folicite the limely Care of this AfTcmb]/,
the Prelervation of innumerable Multitudes, and'intrcjt
F» who are watching iig'iinft iligiit Misfortunes, to unite
their Endeavours with mine, to avert the greatelt and mofl
Acadiol of Calimities.
* Not to dwell, Sir, upon Dangers, which may perhaps
be ttoDght only imngmary, I .hupe it will be at ieall conu-
dvcdi how much the prefent Negle^ of the Pavement is
dnrioiCBnl to every Carriage, whether of TrjJe or Plea-
fiav, or Convenience, aod thnt thufe who have allowed fo
■■clrof their Attention to Petitions, relating to the Roids
of the Kingdom, the Kej-air of fonic of wjijch is aimoft
every Seflion thought ol Impornnce lufiicicnt lo pruCuce
I>^m in this Hoiife. wil! not think the i>trects of the
Owiul elone unworthy of their Rcg:ird.
■ That the prelent NcgIcA of clcinfing and paving the
Stieett, iifucb as ought nut to be borne, th^t the P-.tfcnger is
everr where either lurpriz::d and endangered by uncxpedtcd
^'^T'. or ofiendrd and ubUru£tcd by MomiLaini of Filth,
h well known LO every one, that has puiC.i] a fingle Day ib
cUl cieai City ; anr3 that this Griev.tnce h without Remedy,
il 1 faficicM Proof, that no M-igilliatc h-i:, at prefent Power
te remove it; for every Mil's private Regard to his ov^n
Eafr and Safety, would incite him to exert nis Authority on
ihii O^ca&on.
• 1 fauiably propsfethere^cTf , ihit.i CiH in;iy be hrought
imo the Houfe, to enaule his M ijiltyX Jultices ol l^-ace tur
the Liberties of Weil^nii Her, (o inipcit ihi: public ' ays uf
this Ciiy, ud punifh tM- Nc^'jcd of clcinli-.g ani (.avj,.g
them ; or that :< new Office'- i)<: nppoinu-il, «i)a vtiLed wi.n
fiiU Auihont} f.r (rielkmc t'urp.ilc*
Vol. VH. Aa» Mr.
( 3^2 )
Mr. Samlys.
S t P,
Mr. Saiidj's. * I believe the Grievance, fo much complained of by tM
Right Honourable Member, is not difficult to be removed
without a new Atl of the Leg.fUture, being, perhaps, more
properly to be imputed to the Negligence of the julliceif
than a Defect of their Authority i for they have already luf-
licidnc Power to legylatc this Diforder : And I may be al-
lowed to hope, Sir, that they do not want Leifure to obfcr%-e
it, for their Number is fo great, that if we fuppofe them to
be wholly engaged l<y the common Bufinefi of their Office,
a Foreigner would HaVe Occafion of reproaching us with
Drfefls f^ore important than want of Delicacy, and migl-t
juftly cenl'ure us as a People corrupt, beyond the common
Race of human Wickednefs, a Nation divided only into two
CJafTes, Magiflratcs and Criminals.
* But they, in reality, abound fo much among us, that mofl
of them arc only nominal Magillrates, vel^ with Authority,
which they never exert, or exert to bid Purpofeb, and which
it were well if they were obliged to employ in the real Ser-
vice of their Country, by fupurintending the Pavioun and
the Scavengers.
' For this Reafon it is unnecclTary to ercA a new Officer,
as an Inlpedor ol our Streeta, fince every Office that ii cot
neceilary is pernicious : Were (Jonfcquencet of this Grie-
vance fuch as they have been rcprefcnteJ, I (bould perhipi
willingly ere£la new OfHce, though I Hiould not be furpriftd
to hear the wifcll Man declare, rather fur a Pcililencc thu
. an Increatc of OlHcers.
< As I neither think the Grievance infu'pportable, nor
the Methods propofed for removing it neceilkr/ or proper,-
1 declare my (elf againll tiie Motioti.
Lord Gag;.
S I P,
Lord Gi'^. ' As the Grievance cannot be den!:d to be rea], and the
Motion theretbre may reafonably be imagined to hive been
made without any other Intention than of benefitinc the
pLiblic by an ufelul Law, I cannot difcover any (ufficieat
Reafon for a Rejection fo perentptory and contemptuotu.
That every Man is difgulled, and almofl every Man dail^
endangered in our Streets, has not been denied, nor Witt
any Man. 1 fuppofe, quell ion what, if be hai not yct ezpt-
rien ed it, he nuiy perhaps be fiilly convinced of, in his
met: Vifii of Excuifion,
» Thofc F.vils, whichever)" Man feels, tliough JTght, are
Worthy cf l^.e Attention of the Le^ifLture, and that Danger
char
f
( 363 )
fkt threatens Multitudes, though dilUnt, ought to be
averted j for a fmall DiforJcr, like a fm..!! Expence, when
it extends to Muhitudes, becomes a national Affair.
■ Bat though this Moiion may perhaps be liable to Tome
ObjcAioBs, there is certainly no fucb Absurdity to be found
w it* ss may jullify us in rejeAing it without Examination ;
to rcjeA a Motion when it is tint offered, is a Proof of Prc-
jodkCi next to that ot reje^ling it unheiird ; it is to deter-
mine a Queflion, before it is iiircuiTtd or can be fully un;]cr>
fioai.^
*
Mr. Sandys.
S I a,
' I cannot but differ very widely in Opinion from the Mr. S.-t;,t.j.
Right Honourable Member that fpoke lad, with regard to
^c Propriety of oppofing a Motion, when ic h firll made; a
PnAicC) which I can by no Means think inconfillent with
ciiher Decency or Prudence, and which would p^irhaps be of
Ufe to the Public, if it was more frequent.
■ When any Motion is made, it n fubjcflcd to the Confi-
^ration of this Houfc, and every Member is at full Li-
berty to examine and difcufs it. If k appears to dcferve far.
(her Attention, it may be aumithd i but if tjie Subject bu ei-
ther improper or unfeaTonable, or the Meufurcs propofcd in-
iudiciDUS or dangerous, it i<: then to be njefted ; and if it is
atlafttobe rejeAcd, it is apparent, ihat no Time ought to lie
thrown away upon it.
■ The Hours, and Days, ard Wi-l-Ue, that have been un-
profitably fpent upon Bill.-, wh'ch r.ftcr all our Hndeavours
could not be palled ; tht- D'.'.-.j . rf rc-il ncrtfiis to the Pub-
lic, which have been pro^iuced by long i'urfuiis of fhadowy
Advantage*, have inclined tre to a more expeditious Method
oi proceeding, ar.J dc:erniir.cJ ms f^vccly to r:j>.fl wlut I
onnoi hope to r.mcnd.'
The QueAion biii.g pu:, it palT^rd in tlie Xc^ativc, 143
ipirll 109
Two dil!in£t Accounts hivtrg been made public of the
imporiant Debates upon the Miiiiry Ai\, ^r.d u-.t: S-amcn's
Bill, and it being dil!i;u?c to dcci Ic v.hii-fi is [he mjilajrncii-
tK.wc have thought i: oar Dii:y to n;^!:c iiic Reader his
own Judge by inlerti-:g both.
The ferll on the Muriny Bill h to !)= f;iir,;! P:ige 123 : '
And thqt on theSL-anif.ii'.- niil, I'.'.y ,,:', tijij, z;f), 463.
And |t)e lall nre r; fjlio'v. In a Ci)r.,ii-,.[i.v f^.r mc Ctjn-
fiiJeraiioh of the B:!I lor tlie Puiiiliiimnt (i'Mu.iny ai;.l iiv-
lerTion, and for the bitter Puymtn: ot [lie Army and tluir
QS^rier!, is'c. Sir V.jliiim Yong", d.firtJ ilmt (j-c l-^j
A a a z i> >.d
(-36+)
snd z6ch Claurt.>i of tue hte A£t might be read, which
were r«aJ as follov/i :
XX.
*' It is hereby enaflcd. that the Officers and Soldier*, To
qu:r:ertd iind bill«ed, Ihill be rcrtivcd by the Otvticn of
the Ini5> Liv::ry Scabies, Ale-houfc:-, V'ifiuaiiing noule.-. and
other HcuiV^, in which ihcy arc allou-ed to be quaricrrd and
b^Jtti'd by thi^ A£l ; and fimll p.iv inch r?i(onaLilu Prices ai
{hull be appointed from time tu time by tliv Jullii-cs of iht
Pt:ice in ilieir CJeiicnil und Qusrtcr SfffionsoJ c.cti Countyt
City, or Divifion. within tlirir n-lpitlive jurifd:ctiims : And
the Jullii-cs of the IVjce alonfjid :irc hereby empDWcrrd and
recjuircd to iet ai.d itppoint, in their Ut-neral and Qijnricr
Sclfions aforcfaid, I'uch re^ifonnble Rates for nil nr^rfllirjr
Frovifionf for luch Officers and Soidirrs. fur cne or more
Nights, in the reviral Licits, Toivns, VillHgtri, and other
Places, which they flnll eoma to in their M.trcii, or which
ftiali be appointcii lor their Relidence and Qiiarteri."
XXVI.
" That the Qtrsnerj both nf Officer* and Soldieri ■■
Great Britain ma' be du'y piM .ind futisRed, be it ensAed,
that every OfEccr, to v hcni i( bclorgf to icreive tbc Pa^
or Subf;lirn'-t Nl -v ■'. either for :i whole RrgimcBt, or par-
ticular Troops :n:] C>.iTjp:inics, (hill immediately, upoD «ch
Receipt of fvc.y j-.irLicuiar Sum, on Account of Pay or Sub*
fiftence, give p.bic Notiic thrieof to sM Pt-.-foni keeping
Jnnt. or otfiiT PI. .its where Ofricrr!. and S-MiCr? are quarter-
ed by Virtue r.f thii Afl: Alio appnir.t them And others to
repair to their Q^u-.rrers within four J).iy» at ihc farthcll after
the Receipt of t;ic i:a,e, lo declare the .Accnunit or Debts
(if any Ih;.]] be] between thrm, and the Officers and Sol-
diers q"artercd in ineir refpcflivrHoufcs : whichAccounls the
faid Officer or OfTib'ers arc hereby required immediaiely lo
difchargr, beio'c ;ii)y Part of the laid Pay or SubfiAevce bc
dir.ributed to ihc Ofncrr; or Soldiers: Provided thefaid Ac-
counts exceed n-t for a CommifHcn Ofiicvr of HoHe, unJcr
a Captain, fur one D.iy's Dirt and Small Brer, Two Shil-
]inj;s ; fur one Commiffion Officer of Dragoons onder a
C.ptain one Shilling, for one Commiifion Officer of Fool
under a Cripcain, ore Shilling ; and for Hay and Straw, for
one Hurfe, Six Pence; for one Dragoon or Light Horfe-
man's J)ict nnd Small Beer, each Day Six PcBCe, and HtT
and Straw for his Horfo, Six Pfrce; and aifo not to exceed
Four Pence a D:iy, for one Foot Saldier's Diet and SniaJl
B«r."
He
i He tbCHrpoke to the following EiFca.
[ S I >.
* Whether thetv is any real DifHculty in the CUufes Sir Will 'vn
you have now heard read, or whether there arefuch Yunge.
HBgn as majr be eafily undtritood by thule who have no
Mftpft tb miiUke them, and which are only clouded by an
ifStffeisl ObliDarity, whether they srv in thctnfelves cp.ble
pardiflcrMt Meanings, or whether Avarice or I'overiy have
flir*llfTj mmfonabic Interpretations, and found Ambigui-
litf *■& becaufe they wt^re determinrd not to be dilappuint-
- •ifH^tll^ Search { whether this Luw ibdifobeyed, bfcaufe
UitwSSnieiftood, or cnly miJLindcrliood by thofe who had
to dilbbey it, the Commitcve muft determine.
liai been for many Yean underxood that innholdrrs,
n of Public Huufci were obliged by this Law to
S^ien quartered upon them withUietand Small Beer,
ijr aiKl Straw for their Horfes, at fuch Ratt^s a$ are
in the A£t;r.or can I difcover thatthele Claufes
any other Interpretation, or that any other could be
by the .Senate by which it was ei.nc1ed.
* The Pay of theSjIdiers, Sir, was well known tothofe
wfepve their Confent to this Law, it was intended by them
Ak the Soldiers Ihould be luppiicd with NecefTaries, and it
anUwK be meant that they (houtd pay for them mere than
thy noeired ; they therefore efUblitbed the Rate at which
thl^ mretobe furni(hed, and fixed the highelt Rate which
ihe Wigea of a Soldier allow hmi to p.iy.
■ This fnterprctaticn was, as i fuppole, from tis apparent
Owfimance to Reafon, univerfally iillowed, till the Inhabi-
lun of Ledbury, whither Soldiers had Ixen fent to fupprefs
a Rioe and enforce the Law!>, found th^ir Apprehenfions (b
Iharpen'd by their Malice, that they difcovered in the At\ an
Aabisuity, which had, till that Time, cfcaped the Penetra-
MB of the moH Sagaciou;; an^, upon Comparifon of one Cir-
CBBiftMicc with another, found themlelves under no Obiign-
tm to give any AfTillance to the Suldii-rs.
' They therefore. Sir, not only refufed to afford them
ViAkolt at the iccuAomed Rates, but proceeding from one
Iiaiode of Interpretation to another, at length denied them
MX mly the Privilege of Diet, but the' Ufe of Kitchan
Unfili, to drefii the Provifions, which they bought for them-
fclvn, and at laft denied their Claim to the Fire itfelf.
* The Soldiers, exafperatcd not only at the fireach of
^cft^ilhed and uncontefted Privileges, but at the Priva-
iMBof the NeccflAries of Life, began to think of Methoda
■HI fpccdy and efficacious than ihofe of Arguments and
Reinonllranrea,.
( 366
Ranionurancc*, nnc] to form Rcfolucions of procarfa| |y ''
Force what, in their Opinions, was oaly by Force wiUlhd4
Iroin ihem.
* What might have been the Event of this Coatrorerfy.. '
to what Extremities a Conted about Things fo Decri&ff '"
might have been amtd, how witie the Contcfl might blif '■
iprcad, or how long it might have latied, we may inugiif. . -'
but cannot determine ; had not a fjicedy Decifion been yi^ ''
cured, its Conlequenccs m)f<ht have been fatal Co Malcitudei, ^'
and a gr^at I^'l^t ot the NiMiun been thrown into CcmfiiCoB.
* Having received an /^ccour^t of the AfFitr from lb*
Ofiicers who commar.dcd 'at that PInce, [ confnlted tbe At-
torney General wl.at was the Dtiiga of the Law, and the
Hxten: cf the OMigstion enforced by ir, and vas aofivcred
by him, that the Sums wliich were to be paid for the Dictof
the i\ien, ard the Hay and bcraw for tlic Horfei beiaglpe-
cified, ic r.iuil ncceiTarily be intcr.dcd, by the Lcginatdre,
that no higher Rates fnotild be; demanded ; — that the Power
granted to the Jullices of Pc-ice wr.: wholly in favour of the
boldier, r.nd that tbOy might leCicn ttie I'^iyment at DilciC-
tion in Places of uixonmcn Chcipnels, or Vears of eztia-
ordinr.ry I'Icniy. but (.ou!d nnt ir,cre:ire it on any Oocafioa.
< Another Difpute, Sir.of [tie like Niture wai oocifioned
by the late Scarcity at W:)kcf:c;d, ivhrrc the Jullices, apoo the
Application of the Inn-kerpcr, made ule of tbe Authority
u'htch they fiippofed to hive biccn rcrpofed in ihem by the
A^t, and raifed the Price of ITiiy and Straw to Eightpeoce,
which the Soldiers were not able to p:iy, without fuflering
for Want of Vifluah.
* Un this ULcalion likcwifc I was apply'd to, and upon
conluliing the prcjent Attu>noy-Cicncr:i), rtrceived the fame
Anfwer as before; and tr.inlmining his Opinion to thePiace
from uhcncf I r^-ccivcd tl<e L'umptninc, it h.id lo much Re-
gard pr.id to ir, that the additional Demand was (hence for-
ward remitted.
* 'ihe J.c;rrr^ which thcfe two learned Lawyerj fcrt to
mc on rhij Sul'j,fL:l I havR r".w i;i my Ilind ; and hope ihcir
U^-inion will he th-^ught uifnriiTit Authority for the Inierpre-
iM'.'in nf an Ai^ cf I'ariiaiiicnt.
■ N.-;r is their .■^ nthorir/, Sir, however great, fo Rrorg a
Proofnf ;hc' ji ilrcfs of this liiicjprctaion, ai the Reafona
liN .-:;■!>, rr r.-i:hcr Nfc:r;":-v ^^admi-.ting it. The only Aigu-
rr.err thit r ni he produr:-.: ag-iinlt it, i^ the Hardship im-
pr> d hy i: on tl.^ inrh^!-'rr. who, as it is obji-fled, mull be
f'hj'c^ri" i^ rhi* f-^w. fo r-.'eillootl, to furnifll the So'dieri
^*/lui :*ioviiicr.i •.'■ji n Prj^c a: which be cannot afford them.
' fl-'C
( 3^7 )
lit. it be confiJered, how much more eafily the
Jordon furniflithem at this Price, th.in they can pro-
fye iHi^mfelves, and the DilTicuity will immediately ra- ^
If Soldiers are necefliry. they mull neceffyrily be fup-
!, add it appears, upon Rcficflioo, that their Pay will
•OCOtrpotithcDi by any other MctlioJ.
• tf ih^f are obliged to bi:y their Viftuals, tlicy miiH
Ittrwtle buy Fire and Implemcnti tn dreis them ; and what
■■; [a grtater Hardftip. they rauil Cell ihtm, and buy new.
It rft:y change of fheir Quirtcrs : If this is impofiibie, i:
«ia be allowed not to be the Meaning of the Houfc, upon
•IkjIc Wifdoni it wou'd be a Cenfure too fevare tofuppofc
itictn capable of en^ding Impoi^bilities.
Bat to the Inn-hoMcf, Sir, whofc Utcnfils are always in
I .-. aDd whofc Fire is always burning, the Diet of a Sol-
Ctf.1 colli only the original Price paid tu the Butcher, and in
Ydtt of common Plenty may be afforded without Lofs, at
tli« Price laCDtioned in the A^. It cannot, indeed, be de-
nkd th-it, at prefent, every Soldier ij a Eurthen to the fa-
Allr on which fae isquirtercd, in many Parts of the King-
dam I bui it mny be rc.ifon.iblv' hoped, that the prefentScar-
Oiy will quickly cetife, and that Provifions will fall bick [o
iheii' foraer Value; iind even, amidit all the Complaints,
witii whicii the Severity and Irregularity of the late Seafons
^ve lulled the Nation, there sre many Places where Soldiers
stay be cnJotaincd at the Hated Rates, with very little Hard
Jhip to iltcTr Landlords.
• Hciw<:«r. Sir, as this [ntcrprjtatlon of the Ail, the'
thai fupjvjrted bo:h by Authority and Reafon, has been dif-
Boted and denied, as fome l^iwycrs mny be of a different
Opinion from thofe wii.';m I have conlutted, and as it is not
tikelf that the Pmf^Jcc thus interrupted will now be com-
pSed tiriiti AiZ Prclcripiion, I think it necelTary to propofe
lliiR the Ffice of a Soldier's Diet be more explicitly afcer-
Ddud, that no room may remain for future CoDtroverfieft.'*
Kr." Sandys.
S I a,
* 1 am very far ffbm tfiinfeing the Authority of thefe Mr SzrJ..
letrnrrJ Genllemen, whofc Letters are produced, incontrover<
able Pioui of the Jultnefs of an Interpreiaiion of an ^Kl
of Che Ho«fe, where that Interpretation is not rnitlelf war-
rnited by Keafon, nor confillent with the Prcfcrration, or
P.ajoymcntof Property. Much lefs fliall I agree tofupport
Chtir Inrrirpretation by a new Law, or eflablifb, by an AA of
Q^ LcgilLture, a kind of OpprclGon, for which, however
taciiltf
( 368 )
tacitly fubmitced to, nothing could be pleaded bitbeno but
Culiom.
< The ELirthen, Sir, of a Standing- Army, is alreftdjr toa
heavy to be much longer fupported, nor ougtu we to idd
Weight to it by new Impoficioni ; it furely much better be*
corner the Reprefcntatives of the Nation to attend cotha
Complaints of (heir Conflituents, and where they arc found
to anle from real Grievances, to contrive fotne Expedient
foralteviating their Otiamities.
' A heavy and dreadfu) Calamity, Sir, liss now ia ■ parti-
cular manner upon the i'cup'e; the Calamity of Famine,
one of the fcvcrell Scourges of Providence, haa filled the
whole Lind with Mifery and Lamentation j and furely no-
thing can be more inhuman than tu chule out this Sealoo of
Horror, for new Encroachments on their Privileges, and
new Invafions of the Rights of Nature, the Dominion of
their own Houfes.and the Regulation of their own Tables.
■ The Honounible Gentleman, Sir, has mentioned Pisces
where Proviftons, as he f^ys, are Uill to be bought at ci(y
Rates. For my Part, 1 am frxed in no fuch happy Comer of
the Kingdom ; I lee nothing but Scarcity, and heir nothing
but Complaints, and -IhalJ therefore be very far from admit-
ting now fuch Methods of lupporting the Army, as were
thought too burtlienlome in I'imcs of Plenty ; nor will com-
bine in laying a new Tax upon any Clals of my Coantrymen,
when thty are finking under an enormous Load of Jmpotts,
and in want of the Neceflitries of Life'
■
Sir William Yonge.
S I R,
Sir William * Nothing is more eafy than Oincry and Exaggeration,
Yonge. nor any thing lefs ufrful for (he Dilcovcry of Truth, or (be
Ellablifhmcntof Right. The molt neceliary Mcafures jn^y
often admit of very florid Exclamations againlt tbem, and
may furnilhvery Iruitlul Topics of hiveftive.
* When oui* Liberties, Sir, are endangered, or oor Coun-
try invaded, it may be very eafy, when it h propofed that
we fhould have Rccoutfc to our Swords for Security, ro bc>
wail in pathetic Language theMiferies of War, to defcribc
the Delclacion of Cities, the Waite of Kingdoms, the It^o-
lencu of Victory, and (he Cruelty of Power inflamed by
Hollilitic^. Yet to what will thofe Reprefentatioos coMri-
bute, but to make that diSicult which yet cannot be avoided,
and embarrals Meafures which muil however be purfued.
* Such, Sir, appear to me to be the Objection made to the
Method now prupofed of providing Neceflaries for the Sol-
diers, Mct*lioc!s Dot eligible for their own fake, but which
ought
I
I
( 369 )
'obgbt tiot to be loo loudly conJtmnctt, till Tome better can ^e
fob^itaccd. For why DiouM ihe Public be aUrtneJ wiih
groondlH'] Apprchcttrion}, or why (hould we make tholie
Xaws which our Afbin oblige us tocna^, Ic(s agrcctble to
the People by partbl Rrprcicnutions f
• In the DilculTton oi ih'n Quefliof), Sir, h is Co be CDafi-
dcrcd urbcther SoIdiri» are to be iupponed, xod whether ic
ihill be more proper to luiiintsin ihem by the Method of af.
ctrtaining the Raies at which thej' ire to be fupplied, or b/
iitcf«3fing their Pay.
• Coeol iheie twowayaiiisneceHJry to take; the Provl.
IiOB* are already fixed ai as high a Price as their Pay will
aliowi if, therefore, they are cjtpcded to pay more, their
Wagci mull be increafcd.
• for my Part I (lull comply with eiJier Method, tho' I
o&Do: bat thirk it my Duty to declare, that, in my Opinion,
k it fa/cr to lix the Price of Provilioos, which inuU fmlc in
ihcir Value, than to raife the Pay of the Army, which may
•ercr aitcrwards be reduced.'
hU. Gybboo.
Sit,
• I agree. Sir, with the tloooarable Geotlemin. that if Mr GybG
Sotdicri are oeceHary, we mull make ProvtlioDi for their
Support. This IB indifpotably certain; but it is no leO cer-
ttta. that where Soldieij are oeceflary, Rellraint* and Rcgu-
liuoDB are neceDary likewire, to pref^rve thofe from being
iBfalted and pluncicrei by them* who maJotaio them for
tW bke of Proteaion.
' The Ulrfulner!, Sir, of this Cautioo (ceau not to be
IcaOira, or not regarded by the Gentlemen whofe Propofai
give Occaiion to :hii Debate ; for by enacting Lawi in ge-
aenl Tcrmi, as he leems to advife, wc fliould leave the un-
kappy Inn-keeper wholly at the MerL'y of his Guel)«, who
migbl plooder uod lofult him under the Proteftion of tb«
l#giJTa(ur«, might riot at la a conquered Country, an<l hy^
To thi] Trcauneni jroo are fubjcOcd by tbe Determination of
the Pvltafflctit.
' Th« Qohappy Man, Sir, could ha%'e no ProfpeA cither
«r Quiet or Safety, boi by gratifying ail the E«iKtijiion< of
itturaing Civilitiei for Imolcoce. and receiving their Com-
masdi with the (ame SubtnilliuR that is paid m capttuUting
Towoi to the new Garrifon.
• If it be neccdary to afcercain the Price, [1 it not neceniry
al tbe fame time to afceititin the Spet:ies and Quantity uf
ProviComi to be allowed for i: f Is a Soldier to &tten on J3e<-
cl in Supffrftui
Vol. VII.
Bbb
fiOC
( 370 )
not Tome Limits to Le Tet ro hi^ ExpcQations, and fomc Re-
llraint» piefcribed to Ms Appetite? Is lie to chtpge hii Fsic
uj h all the Cipricioutnefs of Luxury, and relieve, by Va-
riety, the Squeamifhiiers cf Exceis ?
< Such Dtrmatid^ as thdc. Sir, may be thought ludicrooi
and trifling, by thofe who do not xeRcQ. on the lafoluce cf
S'ivtt in Authority, who do not coiilider that the Licenie df
a Military Life is the chitT Inducement th:it briogi Volua-
tiers into the Army; an Juduccmcnt which woald, indeed^
n-.ake a!] ImprLlTe^ fupeiiIuou«, wrre this Propo^l to be
ad'-;:'; ', For hcwreaji]y would all the Lazyiod Volapncei
ei : rge in s. S;ace of Life which would qualify them to live
u^iun the Labour of others, &nd to be profufe withoat £>•
pence?
* Our Army may by this Method be iBcresfed ; bat tie
Nuii.ber of tliiife l>y whom they are to be nuintaincd, Baft
quick y-diiiiinifli. For by Exaction and Opprrflionthc pooKf
I nn-ket.^crs mull quickly become Bankrupts, ind the Sol-
diers that loir their (garters, muft be added to the Divtdod
allon^iJ to the more wealthy, who by this additiooat Buidci
w:[l foon be ledticcd to the fame State, and then oar Amy
nicft fubfilt upon ilicir Pay, bccaufe (bty wilJ no tango bit
it ill their Power to increafc it by Plunder.
' It will then be inevitably necelliiry to divide the Arsy
fiL-m the tfd of the Community, and to build fiarrackl fev
their Reception ; :ui Expedient, which, tbo* It may dM
prefcnt E.iie to ti:e Nation, cannot be put in PiaAice »iA-
oui Danger to cur Liberties.
* The Reaion, for which fo mxny Nations have ban Cl>
flavcd by S'.anding- Armies, is nothing more than iheDife-
rence of,a Soldier'^ Cordition from that of other M^. Se&-
dicrs are governed by particular LaW5, and fubjed to pvti>
cut:.r AuLhority; Authority, «hich, in the m;>nner of ia
Operation, hab lid^ircdy any Rk-fembldnce of the Civil Poser.
Ti.us tl;ey loon Ic:irii to ihii.k themfdvcs exempt fnan iS
cthtr Lawf ; of which, they either do not difcover tbt Ub, .
antJ thtrcforc caftly confent to aboliih them ; or envy lit
Ilr.ppii,cI-> of ihoic ut.oare protc£led by them, and fopt»-
van ui'cnthtm.rlvei todfllroy thui'e Privileges which hm
no ether L'mS[, vvi;h ic^.ird to them, but to sggravuc lUv
twn D ftndcniJi;.
■ 1 luiL Sir, re the nntural Confequences cf a mSiBlX
Si:bjec.:!i:' ; a:' ihck' Ccnfecuences are not alwiys ^U'
di.y )^.(.i:i:c^ it thsy n.uit be retarded by tbit Tca«tr-
jief- V. :,(..'•. .uir Intcrcourl'c H'i:h the icll of ihe N
prc'uc.s, -^ tilt pjicharge of reciprocal Afls of K.L-
ABu b^ thi &£4LCnt Inculutioa of (be Wickcdncft cf
( 37^ )
Iribiillng to the Prop.igation df Slavery, and the ^iibrerfion
of [in: Rights of Nature; Inculcitioiii which cnmn-T [)c a-
voideJ by Men who hvc in c^}:ilt.int rcMowlliip with ihcrlr
Countrymen,
• Bur Soldiers (hut up in a RarricI:, exc'aded from '11
ConveHation wi[h fuel) as are wil'er iind hnnejt^r tri^n ;jKni-
felrci, and taug!it that nothing is a Virtue but iiii)'KL-it O e-
dieoce to the Comm:in:l3 cf t:-cir 0!H;:ers, wi:: !'(ij;i become
Foreigners in their own Country, and mirch .n'liri:: the Cc-
kndtnol their. Con ftitati on. with ti.e fii-ne /V.:crif/ u j-
SioU an Army of Invaders ravaging the (.,'o:'li! ; iliey witj
e all Senfe of focial Duty and uf loc ..\ H^'^piocfs, and
think norhing iilullrious but to enHive and delLroy.
• So fatal, Sir will be the Effeas of an Eibbi'fti-Ticnt of
Btrracks, or petty Garrilbns in tnis Kingdom; und thrrc-
ibre, as Barrai:ks mu.l be built when liiii-ktiepL-rs arc rumc ),
■aad our Concurrence with this Propofal muil produce tiicir
ItniB, I hope it wi!) not'be n^-efTiry to p'-ov ^y uivy oU.Qt
Argument, that the Motion cughc to be rejcAcd.'
Air. Henry Pclhani.
Si r,
• Tho' I am not inclined by loud Flvagge rat ions and iif. ^^r \unry
fe&ed Expreffions of Tendernefs to dcprtrls Lhe Courage, nr *^^''"""'
infliBie the Sufpicions of the People, to ii;-ii:n them to com-
Sinof Miferics whicti they do not fetl, or ward rigainlt ii)
figns which were never formed, yet no Mm is more
really foUicitous for their liappinefs, or moredcfjrou? rf re-
'moving every real Cnufe of pear and Occr:{ion of H'inifhips.
< This AficAion to the People, an Affection llcidy, regu-
lar and unfhaken, has always prompted me to prtfer their -
fOl CO their feeming Intt:rell, and rather toconfulc tiieSccu-
riiy of their Pr.vilcgca than the Gratification of ihetr P?{-
fioas i it has hitherto determined me to vote fur fuch a Budy
of Troops as may defend us againll fudden Inrcids and v.-jn-
Xoa Inlul:s,and now incites me to propofe that foine eflica-
eaai Method m.iy be liruck out for their Support, wi:.tojt
CXafpeiating cither the So!dierB or their Landlords by psrpc-
tiul VVraDgles, or adding to the Burden of a militiry KO::-
blilhnient theNeceHity of Contentions in Courts uf i..i-.y.
< I know not with what View thofe havi- liiulitn by
trbom the Propofil firft made* his been oppok.1; ;licy li..ve
iodeed propofed Objeflions, I'oine of whicn 'nc liicn a<. 'nay
be eafily removed, and othcri f^ich as ariic Warn i'.\s N itjre
of Things, and ought not tlicrcfore to be mcrtlaneil. b..t.-<Liic
they tave no other Tendency than to er.R >t.c the Mn ds of
UlCrile chat hear them againtl in Army, at i Tim.- wh:;: )t is
B b b 2 a''.Qvi«\
( 37* )
allowed to be neceflary, and prove onljr wlu^ ^u nevf r de-
nied/ that no human Meafures are abl'olutetjr perfe^, ind
f hat it is often impoCible to avoid a greater EvU, bat bjr M-
feiing a lefs.
' The Queftipn before m, Sir, ii in ill own Nature b
£mp]e, fo little connefled with Circnmftances that may djf^
traft our Attention, or induce different Men to difioot
Confiderations, that, when I nAtA upon it, I cannot aOf
cenccive by what Art it can be made the Subjefi of 1ob|
Harangues, or bow the nioA fruitlal JmagJoation cattopi-
tiate upon it.
* It is already admitted that an Army U Reccflaiyi til
Fay of that Army is already eftabtifhed ; the accidcttal
Surcity of For^ige and Vidnals is (uch, that the Pay uati
fufficient to mairtain them ; how then muft the De6ciencki
be applied ? It has been propofed either to fix the Priccrf
Provifions with rcfpeft to them, or to advance their Wapi
in fome Proportion to the Price of Prorifions. Both dMft
Methods feem to mee't with Difapprobatioo, and yet dl
Army is to bu fupported,
' rhofe who reafon thus, do furely not cxped lo bei»
fevered, or at lead expeA from a Reply no other S^tiihdiM
tlinn that of feeing the Time of the Seflion wafted, ud ihi
Adminillrntion harr<ifliKl with trivial Delays, ior what CB
be urged with any Hope of Soccers to him who will opaif
deny contriidiaory Propofitions, who will neither movtHT
Hand Ail), whowill neither difl»nd an Army nor fupponk.
* Whether thefe Gentlemen conceive that an Amy mif
fubfitl without Vifiuals till the Time of Scarcity ii ortr.tf
whether they have raifed thofe Forces only to Itarvc tkci^
1 am not lagacious enough to conjeAure ; hut {hall vcMM
to obf^rve, th'at if thfcy'have fuch a Confidence io the Ma-
deration and Regularity of the Soldiers, as to imagine ibl
they will llarve with Weapons io their Hands, that thcyvi
hve within the Sight of full Tables, and languifli with Ha*
ger, and pcrifli ior want of NccclTaries, rather than diaiili&
the Superfluities of others, they ought for ever to ceaJe that
Outcries about the Xjcentioufacfs, Infolcnce, and Dufpd
a Standing-Army.
* But, not to fink into Levity unworthy ofthn AflcnUfi
may I be permitted to him that tHefe Aru of procraAi^
OL'.r Dtrbates, are by no Means confident' with the Keafaa
for which we are afTcmbled, and that it is a noch bntf
Proof, both of Ability and Integrity, to remove Objeftias
than 10 raifeihem.^atul to fitciliute, than to retard, the fioS-
tielsof the Public?
•Tic
( 373 )
■ Tike PropoGil mad« «t fini wsi oalf to elucidale a I^iy
kbkch h'J bern rrgularly oblcrved for fifty Vcaf], and lo rc-
tuch Ambiguitiu ajtenc'cJ onl/ co cmbarTars the loa-
Hdctt. t)0£ ip relieve tbeiq.
■ To tkii manjr ObjcdUaai have l)cca niMle, aod macb
tWD hat been employed to dil'play ihe Hardfbips of
Uftg^lJiert, butQO beiier Method hu bccnyndil-
Dor do I exped iha: any will be lUrtcd, not «t*
wub gretcer DifBculliu.
ta ill political Qocllioai, QijtQioo] too cxienTive to be
If comprehended by fpecuhiivc Reifon, Kxpcrience is the
'Ctside «ti)ch a wii^c Man will follow with die Icall Dillrull,
tad i: tj DO triria] Recommeadation of the prcfent Meihodi
Au k hu been to loag purlucd without any (oxn'idihle la*
caBTeaietKc or loud Compliiatii.
* Hkrddupt, eveawhcn real, are alleviated by long CuT-
BMi wa bear any pTcfeot Uncafiners with lelis Regret, 19
Wt leCt remrTnber the Time in whicb we were more happy (
iK laJtby long Acquaintance with any Grieirance we gala
' Aivastage, that we know it ia its whole Exieat, that it
Bl be aggravated by our imaginaiioa, and that there 11 no
for fui pelting that any Mifery i> ycc bcbitul more hcavjf
tJut which we have already borne.
' Sachu the Prcteni Sutcof the Prafticcnow rccommra-
ied to chit AtTcmbly, a Practice to whicb the Inn keepers
biff* long fubmiticd. and found it at Icall tolerable ] to which
tkcy kocw ihemfelves Cxpofed when they took out aLicrnfe Tor
(be fixcrcifc of that ProlcfGon. aid whicb they confidcr as &
Tu i^oa them, 10 be balanced againll the Advantages wbicb
tiKTexpcfl fiom their Employment.
• TbiiTax cannot be denied at prefent lobe byrthcnfomtt
iaa very uacommon Dcj;rcc ; but thit Weight his not been
of lot^ Contjotuince, and it may be reafonably hoped that
■ inJloaw be made every Day lighter. It ii indeed true,
UMnoaaneciAiry Impufilron* ought to be laid upon ibe Na*
tiaa even for 3 i)ay, and if any Gentleman can propofe a
Udfaodby which thii may be iJikcn ofFor alleviated, I fhall
i«dily comply with liii Propolalf sod concur in cb9 ElU.
Wiflwen: of rtew Regulationa.
' Wlib regard to Uarrac|ti 1 pamiot deny that they are
iiSI; Namei of Tenor toft free Nation, (hat they tend to
BiIk tn Army frem part vf our Coaniiuiioa, and may con-
''^■ee to inlu(c inio the Soldien a Dilrrg^rdcf their Fellow
^<it}tAi. and an IndilTercnce about the I^bertiei of their
^^iry i bot I cannot difcover any Canncdlion beitvcen a
fioviMa for the Support of the Soldieri in Public lloufet*
i> A SttU of omlUfli Funiliarity witb tlieii Cuuurymicn,
aflj
( 37A- )
and the Trcfliyn of Damckr. by which they will be, prr"
haps, for tvi.'r, k'i«rriteii fhrn [Jitm, ror can ciiccvcr any
Thing in the Mtthod of ru;:i'ortini; them now rtcorr.inendeo
that doc*: not icrd iiicher lu the Promntion of murtinl jtoqj
OiHcca and the Cuiifinnatiaii of FricndQiipaod l>:.nt:vu!cBCC.
Mr. Campbell.
S I K,
Mr. CMi>vbell. ' Whtnce ihc Impropriety of raifini^ ObjcflJons to any
MenAiics thjt .ire prnpcifcd h iimigined to arife I am ui ::ble
todifcover, havint; hithcrtu admitted as an uncontrovertible
Opinion, that it i:- the Daty of every Member of tlii> Houle
to deliver, witticu^ Refcrvi.', i.i<>5ci.ctmcnts upon any Qutliioa
which is broii(^)it biforc him, and to approve or cenlurc ac-
cording to hi.^ Cotiviilion.
* It it br hii^ Daiy, Sir, to condemn what he thir.ki d.in-
gerous or iri convenient, it fccms by no means conir-irj* to hii
l)uty> to Ihew the Renfon uf his Ccnfure, or to Uy bcftire
the Houlc thofc Ol>jr£lions which he cannot lurmount by hii
own ReHeftion. I: ccrtiinly is'not neceffdry to admit im-
plicitly all that ii: a^cned ; and to deny or diUpprove with>
out Reafon, cin I:c no Proof of D'Jty. or of Wifdom ; and
how fliall it be known, thit nc who produces no Objeflioni,
91^5 from any other Motives, than )^:ivatc Malevolence, Oil-
content, or Caprice?
' Nor is it. Sir, to be impLt(.-d a<; a jull Reafon for Ccnfure
tothofe who hru-i cppcfcd tl.c Motion, that no other Mea-
furcs havf been of;i.T*d them to tiie ConfiJeration of the Com-
mittee. It i=^ ncccflary to di-mt^lifh a uleiefs or fhaitercd Edi-
*:ce, b'fjrc n firm and h3bit.:blc Building can be crefted in
irs Flncc ; the f:rit Step to the Amtnument of a Law is t)
fhew its Def^-dh ; for why Ihould any Alteration be made
where no Inccnvcniency is dilcovcrcd?
' To:he ciiitf Orjcftion litat wa^ offered, no Anfwer has
yet been midc, '.or i .1 the Houfe brcn informed how the Jnr.-
ktrpcrllrill Ik.' able to dift:over v.hen he has paid the 1'ax
V hich :hij Law Uys upon him. 'J'his is indeed a I'ax of 1
very p.irricii!:tr Kind, iiTax wirhout Limits, and to be levi-
c^l ;U t:.i- Dif(.r(tion of him for whotc Dcncht it is paid. Sol -
ditfri, (jinriercd upon thefe Terms, are more properly railing
Cont'i! iitions in an Enemy's Country^ than rcceiviag Wigei
in t!icir.Mvn,
< T:. 't intended by this Motion, that the Inn keepersflia3
;udj;c u r.rr oiij^ht to be allowed the Soldier for his Money ?
^^ J do ni't I-.p iht-n that any Alteration is propofed in the prc-
fcnt Co'iiliiion cf our Army, for who has ever refuted to
fdl thti.i i'oo.! for their Money at the common Piice, or
whit
( 375 )
hit NecefTity is there fjr a L^w to enforce a PniSice equally
^Bihe AdTnncagc of all P>Tti::£ ? \i it bc'^ropolcd that the
Ssldier fha.ll Judge for htnifelt, zhst lie Ili::ll fet what Value
MOuIl chink fit on his own MonRj', und thn; he l^ull be at
B the Interpreter and Rxccution^r of tli:.- r.:w Law. the
OMdition of the Inn keeper wil- then be f'uch us no Slave ia
Ac Mines of Americi cnn envy, snd fuch 03 he will gladly
^u for becter TreaLment uniiectlic mull arbitrary and op-
pRffive Government.
* Nor will the lofolencc of the Soldier, thus invcfled with
■dimiued Authority, thus entitled to implicit Obedience, and
aahed above the rell of Minkind, by feeing his Ciaim only
iMlded by bis own Modi^ration. be confined to his unhappy
Jjldlord. Every Guell v/ill become iVibjeft to hif Intrufioo,
■d the Paffenger mult be content to want his Dinner, when -
crer the Lord of the Inn (halt like i; bc-iccr than Iiisown.
■ Tbtt ihefe Apprchenfions, Sir, are not groundlefs, may
le jmred from the Condu£l of thofe Men, even when the
Liv wu not fo favourable to their Dcfigns j foine of them
bn slrody claimed the fole Dominion of the Houfcs in
tAkh they were quartered, and infulted Perfons of very
)if^ Haak, and whom our antlenc Laws had intended to fee
■ate ill* Infults of a turbulent Soldier. They have feen
ik PiDTiiiooB which they hud ordeted, taken away by Force,
futly, perbsps, to pleafe the Appetite of the Invader, and
pirdy tpintify his Infolcnce, and give him an Oppcrtunity
if baifting attORg his Comrades, how fuccefsfuUy he blui-
tlRd.
* If it be neceltkry, Sir, to infert a new Claufe in the A£t
to prCfeBt Liw-fuitf, which, however advantageous they
■ly Ibmctimes be to i.ie, \ Ih.ill always be ready to obviate,
itiifarely proper to limiitl.j Claim of one Party as well as
Iku of the other, for how clic is the Ambiguity taken away ?
Tlw Dtfficnity may be indeed transferred, but is by no means
raaovcd, .and the Inn-keeper null wholly rcpofe himfelf
BfH che Lenity and JuAice of the Soldier, or apply to the
Coara of Law for the fnteipretation of the A& i
' The Qaeftion between us, is faid to be fo free from Per-
^BUjr, that it can fcarcely give Occafiun for Harangues or
uQMUatioiUi and indeed it cannot but be allowed, that the
Coatroverfy may fooo be brought to a Angle Point, and I
duak Bothing more is nccef[ary ilinn to enquire, if Inn-hol*
dBifliall be obliged to provide Victuals for Soldiers at a
flwd Price, what, and how much the Soldier fh^ll demand.
' The Power of raifing Money at Pleafure, has been hi-
dKTto denied to our Kings, and furefy we ought not to place
lltt Confidence in the lowcU, that h» been refufcd to the
moll
other, equally rapacious, equally mercileff, ai
guilhed from foreign Invaders, by this Circum;
received from our own Hands the Authority
,,^f.; plunders us.
\'i\]', ' Having thus evinced the Neceffity of det
"' |i Soldiers Privileges, and the Inn-keepers Rig
^ necel&ry to recommend to this Houfe an ui
gree of Attention to the Regulation of our i
blifhment, which is become not only burdei
Fellow- SubjeAs by the prefent Famine, but by
of our Forces: an Xncreafe which the Nation
hold without Impatience, unlefs they be eoab
Jbr what End tbey have been nifed.
,1 * The People of this Nation are, for yery
difpleafed, even with the Appearance of a Sa
and furely it is not prudent toexafpenite them,
ing the Troops in a Year of Famine, and gv
the fame Time new Fowert of Extortion aDdC
Mr. Winnington.
Si k,
fUr. Winnini- * I >»ve beard nothing in this DebatCi ba
' ten. Objections, which afford no real InformatioD,
the Alleviation of thofe Grievancea which i
lamented.
* It is not to point out Inconveniencies, or i
iftv Rrnrcfentations of the HaitKhin* tn whirl
f %11 j
'.TifJf, Sir, his b«n propofcJ by thole who
■^ with the prdentCullom, it isicmfooable kJ
inc. I ■[ nose will be eiriiy dtfcovercd) acd therefore
J (ri.-..-r.-! ■ u: cbuik ii rcifanabtc that the MotioD ihoald M
-Aitk. Uy it no new Impofiuoa it jntcDdeJ, nor
., »....g more t)i»a iKe ELUbliQimeot of a PriAic* which
COatinucd far more than iif^y Ye<trs, xnd never, except
■- — "rtafiotij, been denied lobe Icpl, It ii only pio-
[tie Par'iamcnt ihoald confirm [bat laterpretattcAk
.-ici whicli hai been almoll univerlally receiired, that
lid do whjt can prod'.ice do Dilturbancc, bccaufe t(
oo Alccntiioni. but i^i:iy prevent them ; bccaufe
lypTEVcnt aby Aiccmpts of JanavauoQt <>( Divertity uf
John BariUid.
8 I k.
* Whether the tnterpretatioa of the hti which is hoit g.f 7^11^
ttlfWdcd lor, tui been univciially admiitrd, it n impoflibla Btrnari-
but it \\ » \*.*'X cciiarn, that the Practice wfakh
'■tpoDit, bak in many Places never been Jollowed,
'Ifed^^ can it be made general without great Impropriety.
Muty d iltolc. Sir. who ate UiieJ Keepcn of Public
Hoafet, and on whom boI>]iers are qusricrcd under ihni U^-
Maiir.a:u-.ti. I1.1VC no Cooveniectcy of ftuniQitng Proviiionst
hecji; -ver Tell ihem : Sjch arc many tif the Keepers
tf 1 _'leB. Rinonj wh(7m it ii the comtnon Method
■Dp > a fmall weekly .Al>owancc, tnitetd ot~ todg-
iag lit^... ... .ucir Houlet [ a Lodging being all which they
CwceivT [hrmlelves ohjigcd to provide, and &II that the Sol-
dier* have hitherto required ; oorcan we make any Altera-
beo in xhu Method, without imroducing the Licence sod
tdblcfiee of Soldiers into private Houfci ; ibia Houtei bi
ibcno lUiacoaainted with any degree ol Riot, Incitility or
■Jpnat.
^The Reafoo for which PublicHoufei ar« affigned for lh«
'.'dicrs, 1} partly the grrater Conveniencir uf
. ■■ ib«m in i-'aoiilict th4l fuDfill by the Enter-
iioi.( o( .->traD{eri, and p«rily lh« N*iuic of ibetr Pre-
ASmi, which, by cxpoljog them to frequent £ncountcri with
and (he Dcb^uciied. enable* tnem either lobcv t»\
the Inlulcnce of a boldier.
lot with rr^tnJ, Sir, to ihc PerCons whom [ have men*
I, oeicber of thefe Keafoni have :Li<y PtAce ; they h«v6
from their dally Employtncni, any Opportuniiiet of
ailhiog Soklicn with Bcdi or Vfftuali, nor by their
Er of Life aic adapted to fappott Intrulion, or Arug*
V«fr. Vli. C c « gl«
V
glc with rerverfcncfB. Nor can 1 difcoTcr why toy ^ijtn
fiiould force Soldiers into their Houfes, who would not wil-
Jingly admit thein into his own.*
Mr. Cocks,
S I R,
Ma Cocks. ' '^tie Practice mentioned by the Honourable Gendemia,
I know to be gereratly'followed by &1I cbofc that keep AIe>
houfes in the Suburbs of this Metropolis, who pay the SoN
diers billctccd on them, a Compofition for their LiadgiD{,nor
ever fee them but when tt^ey come to receive it; fo br
are they from imagining that they can chim their whole
^ubitllence at any Hated Price.
' It is apparent, therefore, that by admitting thii Motion,
we Qiould not contiim a Law already received, but cftaUifli a
new Regulation unknown to the People; that we fliould lay
a Tax upon the NatioO) and fend our Soldiers to colleA it.*
General Wade.
Sir,
Gcrcral Wade * ^ ^*^* '*^*" '°°E converfant with military AAin, vA
therefore may perhaps be able to gives more exiAAccoani,
from my own Knowledge, of the Antiqoity asd Extent of
thip Praflice, than other Gentlemen have had» Irani tfacir
way of Life, an Opportunity of obtaining.
, ' I( was, Sir, in the Reign of King WilliaiA, the conftaM
Method by which tbcArmy was fupported t as may be cafitj
imagined by ibofe who refleA, that it was common for die
Soldiers to remain for eight or tea Months unpaid, end thai
, they had therefore no Poflibiltty of providing fyr than-
/elves the NeceiTaries of Life. Their Pay never wai re-
ceived in thofe Times l^ themfelves, but ilTucd in Exche-
quer Bills for large Sums, which the Inn-kcepert prooued
to be exchanged and divided among tfaemfelvcst in Prapor-
tion to their Debts.
* Such was (he Practice, Sir, in that ReigUf which hat
been generally followed to this Time, and the Rates then
fixed have not fmce been changed ; and at no IncoDveDkncx
bat arifen from this Method, I can difcover no Rcafen a-
^nft confirming and continuing it.*
Mr. Puftenejr.
' Sir,
Mr. PuUency. '* Thofe that have fpoken in Defence of the Motion, biW
' accufed their Opponents, with great Confidence, of declaim^
ing without Arguments, and of walling the Time oflheScf^
l!0Rj in a ulelcfs Repetition of C%je£lioas.
( 379 ) '
• I do not indeed wonder, that the ObjeAions wblch hare
railed fljould have given fume DiCguJl; for who can be
'flawed with hnriag his Opponent produce Arguments
wkich be cannot aofwer i But lurely the Repetitions m.\y be
fgnrf"^ : For an ObjeAion is to be urged ia every Debate
dB k isuifwer'd, or is difcovered to be unnnlwerable.
* But wliat. Sir, have thofe urged in Defence of their own
rbo fo freely animadvert upon the Keafonings of
_ . # What Proofs, Sir, have they given of the Superiority
pf dvfr own Abilities, of the Depth of their Refearches,
iMtdii Acotenefsof tb.eir Penetration i
^%ay have not produced one Argument in Fdvour of their
Uqcum, but that it is founded on Cullom ; they have notdif-
forar'd, however wife and fagacious, that it is always neceliary
W caqnirc whether a Cullom be good or bad ; for, furely,
"it^ffff fucb Enquiry no Cullom ought to be conlirmcd.
* The Motion which they would fupport, is in.leed urdeft
incuhcr Cafe ; for a good Cullom will continue of itfelf, and
enethatisbad ought not to be continued, ft is the iiufinefs
of the Legillature to reform Abufes, and eradicate Corrup-
lioBai not to give them new Strength by the Sandlon of a
Lm.
' It has been urged, Sir, that the Law in reality exiflsal-
tttiyi that the A& ha^ been interpreted in thi^ Scofe, by
thiAltiKnejr General ; and thnt hi<; Interpretation is gcne-
nDjr received. This is then theS ^'c of the Quellion ; If
thePnAice, founded upon this S?nle of the A^t, gcner^ll/
.pmili, there is no Need of a new Claufe to enforce what
U alieady complied with : If itdoesnot prevail, all that has
hen ar^d in Defence of the Motion falls to the Ground.
■ I do not doubt, Sir, that this Cullom has been recei.'ed
withooi many Exception^, and therefore think it ought llill
n remain a Cullom, rather than be changed into a Law, be-
Cufcitwjll be complied with as a Cullom, where there are
■oObftacIes to the Obli-rvaiion of it ; and it ought not to be
nfbrccd by Law, where it it inconvenient and opprefFtve.
* While tbe Soldier, Sir, is moderate in his Demands, and
pCMcabteand modell in his Behaviour, the Innkeeper will
chnrfully furnifh him even more th.)n he can afford at the
lated Price: and certainly RudciiLi::, Iiilolencc, and unrea-
fiwable Expectations, miy juilly be |i(mifhcd by the I'orfci-
lure of fome Convenicncies. Thj-, Sir, the fr.n keeper
will preferve fome Degree of Authoiry in his o'.v:i Ilouic ;
a Place where the Laws of Nature givn every .\I.in Domi-
nion, and the Soldier will continue a regular and inoffenfivc
Member of civiLSoclety.
Ccc 2 « The
{ 380)
* The Abfurdity of leaving the Soldier at large iabi^
Demands, and limiting the Price which the Inn keeper ii to
require, has been already expofed beyond the PofTibiliiy of
Rtfply ; nor indeed has the lead Attempt been made to
invalidate this Objfflion ; for it has been pfled in Silence by
thofe who have moll zealoufly efpoufedthe Motion.
' * The Accpunt given by the honourable Gentlrman of the
ReafoD for which this Regulation was liril introduced in tli*
Reign of King William, is undoubtedly juft ; but it protei.
Sir, that there is no Nfceflity of continuing it ; for the Sol-
diers are now conllantly paid, and therefore need not that
Alliftancefrom the Inn-keeper, wh ch was abfolutely reqai-
fite when they were fometiincs fix Months without Money.
' it has been urged. Sir, with great- Importunity ^nd V'e-
bemence, that fome Expedient fhould be propofed in the
Place of this which fe many (Gentlemen ^vtlo'have fpokcn
tin this Occanon feem inclined to reje^, and which indeed
cannot be mentioned without Conicmrt or Aldiorreacffl
That the Soldiers (hould knowas weM as tlieti Landlord their
own Rights is urdoubtedly jull, a* well as thatihcy ftioald
havefomccL'rtain Means of profuringtheNcceflaries of Lifei
it may therefore be proper toena£t, that the Inn keeper flulf
either fiirnifh them ^vi[h Diet at the eftablilii'd Rates, or
permit them todiefs the Victuals which they fhall buy for
themfclvcst with his Fire and Uten{i!s, and allow them do-
dies. Salt, Vinegar, a. > Pepper. By this Method the Sol-
diers can never be much injur'd by the Incivility of their
Landlord, nor can the Inn-keeper be (ubjefled to arbitrary
Demands. The Soliiier will lltll gain, - by Decency and
J^umanity, greater Conveniencies than he cm procure for
himrelfby his Pay alone, and all Opportunities of Opprcffloa
on either Side wi}l in a great MeaAire be taken away,
* I canno: but exprefs my Hopes that this Method wil! be
generally approved. Thoie thai have oppofcd the ElUb'i/h-
idenc of an Army wi)} be plcafed to fee it made lefs grtcvotu
to the People; and thol; that have declared to it* Favour,
ought furcly to adopt wichoLit Oppofition, any Metfures, by
the Puiluit of which it may be borne with fewer Complaiotl,
and lels Reluctance.'
■
The firther Cpnfideration of this Queftion was deferr'di
and [he Chairman having moved for Leave to fit again, it
was refolved to proceed oti this Bufinefs upon the next Dar
but one, in a Committee of the whole Houfe :
When Sir William Yonge fpoke as follows :
Sir,
■'iliiam • The lall Day which was afligned to the Conuderatioa
of thi:> Bin, \va<= ipen: in long Aiicrcatioos, in vague and
uDneceilary
( 38i )
DilqaifttioD*, in mroffY^liw Rcfl«Aioni upoa
*g JmQ. xud in aggravating ofGrierancci ttut mty
Hvcr bipprw ; much Sagacity ivas exerted, ami much £Io- '
^tOKf '■i, tidt nn Dc;r!'m!n.-ition wat attained, DOr
cm I 'Cdtent examined, by which thofi: Gbjcdiont
nivlit be tiini>vc\\ which ajipejicJ la important, or xhofc
SUgeri olivjdiod which were reprdented fo formidable and
* I fcgjir, Sir, part of the Time which has interrened be*
men tbai Dctrtie and the prHcnt Day, has befn employed
^ %be Gentlemen, whofe Scroples were (o namerous. and
«k(ifc Caaiion is fo vigilant, in contriving fome Methods of
luiing the Army without oppreHing ihe VifhuDeri,
" providing for oar Defence againtl foreign Ercmiei,
It fubJcAing us to l^t Kvils of Dircontent and Difaf-
itan. which ihry impute to the prcfent Slate of the roili-
tuj ElHbltlhment.
< To uhl<ti. for ever, and to ftdvaacc nothing, ii an eafy Me>
Atd of Dilputation Dpon any (^lellion, bol rontributsi ver^
Inlttilihe Incteafe of Knowledge; an RTiful and «i:u(o Ob^
icAor tasy confound, and darken, and diltuilf, but never
alttt Enquiry or illuflrstes TiLUh.
* In political Oueilion*, Sir. Jt^s flil) more e^Cy and lefsia-
|lBUOini lor all poli:icai Mealures are in J'ome Degree
hgki «nd wrong at ihc fame Time i to benefit fome they ver/
hfVttfDtly bear hard upon othcri, and are cheirTore only to
jiioveJ or rejeded as Advatitages appear to over-ba-
Ithe IiKunvenieocie3,or the in(.aoveaiencie5tuoutwciglt
'fli Advjnt^gc).
* li ia, Sir, the proper Province of a f>cnator to promote,
*t to obllriift (he public Counciis, and when he declares hi*
Ddapprobstioi of any Expedient, to endeavour to fubHiiute
* b«t4r. tot hnw can he be fatd ro fuflain his Part of ths
tf«Mril Burthen of public Aflain, who laysothen under the
[r^cctfliiy of forming every Plan, and inventing every Expe<
linit, and conteau himfelf wiih only ccnfuriog what kM
iKvtr endeavours to ametld t
ThM e>fery Mao who ii callrf Tirih by hii Country, to
>« hcreatthcGuirdian of the public HappmefA, is obliged,
>}the N'ltutr of hi) OSice, to propofe in thi^ Koufe what*
«vnhii iWnctration or Experience rany fuggell lo hitn as
a4*aiuaget>u^ to tha Nation, I doubt not but all that hear
>*At>rt lufhcicnEly convinced; and therefore cannut but lup-
poTe ibit they have fo fjr attended to their Duty, as to bfl
*!*'< to inform us how the ptelent Inconvruieocies of this
Viii may be remedied, aod it* DefeAs (upplicd.
• To
confctous that Tome Articles in it may require
fhe Quantity of Small-Beer to be allomd ic
naft oecefTarily be afccrtaioed ia order to pr<
aod indeterminable Difputes; for one Mao, Sir
a greater Quantity than another, and a Man ma
cd by Malice or Wantonoefs to demand more
Tequires; it will therefore be proper to limit
which mult be farnilhed, that neither the Sold
by the Avarice of his Landlord, nor the Lm
preflcd by the Gluttony of the Soldier.
• With regard 10 this Queflion, Sir, I expej
reiit OpinioQs in this Houfr, which every Mai
to offer aod to vindicate ; and I Ihill take thi:
of propoUng on my Part, that every Man ma]
Allowance of three Quarts. One Quart to ca
be allowed in my Opinion to be fuHicient, and
ticman can imagine that by this LimitBtion,
fliiity is indulged.
< There are fome Parts, Sir, of this Kingd
Cyder is more plentiful, aod cheaper than Sm;
fequently it may be for the Eafe of the Vi£tu:
the Choice allowed him of furnifliing one or i
will therefore be a very proper Addition to th
the Inn-keepers {hall allow the Soldier evei
Quarts of either Small Beer or Cyder.
• That penal SanAions, Sir, are clTemial i
that DO Man will fubmit to any Regulations in
( 3«3 )
n icvsntbty obfcivcil in the I»r RclgDS. tnd lio«^
'r ibe Afiignmeal of Troopi ii to be ilrudcd bj the Vic-
Vc Reign of. King William, Sir, bcrore Funil! wfre
-1, while ihc Cicdit of iKc Government wjs luw,
as .-.jcaiorci of the Coun were often ohviaied or dcfnted
If tJi« Sapcrlority of (he dncomented P»m-. and the Sup.
riki dcaied which were necrlury lo (wppon ihcm, jnd iq
IcpedaOOQ of which they hsd been ucdeitaken. i( wai not
■cfiatDOO for the Tcwm inivhicS thf TroojM were As*
6eMd, to tnurmiir at their Gueiis i nor could they be
vkircrtl u'i:h cotrplaining without jull Rcafonsi for Co
rcf Sjl.-ierj upon a Hoafe, wa* in thofc Days jidle Irii
to icn«i Ti(x>pi to live at thcJi Dircretion.
• Ana'I Supplies, Sir, werethen (jcvalional and temporaiy,
M^Mxhing was granted bac for the prcfcnc Exillence, the
fcralence cf the Oppofiliuo for a (io^lc SclTion coibairAlIrd
til t: res oC the Court in the highelt Debtee, tbeif
^.. . .. .^ ^ .u a Stind, (he Force) were cnpaid, and they
obliged to wait liQ ^notbcr ScfBoB fiir an C^poituait/
profecaung^ their Schetrtvi,
Tbat, Sir. the Soldiers were fomenone* fire Moniha
It their Piy, and weic occeffirily Supported by the
keeper at hivuwn Eapcnce, with howrouch Kriudancs
JMoDotentl need not incnioD. Itcannot but be iminc-
iiatlfy cociAdcrcd upoo hrjuag ihii Accouot of the Sol-
£■*! Condition, with how ai'ny Reproaches he would re-
am bii \ :£.ltia|i, bow roughly be would be treated, how
«|ei be would be inrultcd is .tn Tdlcr, and fiownrd upon as
it iBCnadcr. Nor can it be imagined that fuch AStoott,
levcver they migbc be provoked, would be bo/ce without
lUtarn, by tbofe who knew themrdves not the Autbon cf
the PrcrocatioDf and who ihnighc ihcmrdves equal Suffi:r-
(n »i:h thole who ccmpliirtj. When the Inn-keepcr
neirled at the Soldier, the Sulc'cr, ii msy be fuppt/rrd.'fel-
OM Csikd to threaten, or to plunder (he Inn>Uccpcr, and lt>
nfa IB h)> Dcmandi, as hit AlloNvance was retrcndicd.
* The), Sir, the Liodlord and his CiueU u-ere the conflant
Eacmiei of cmU other, and ipcni their Uvea in munal
CaaplaiDt], Injuitei, and lofulcB.
* Stttby the preltnt Regularity of our miltltry EflabliQl-
acM, tbi» gteai Fvil is taken away i as the Soldier icquirea
aa Credit of tiic VnHualler, be is conftdered at no great io-
tmabraocc on hi* Tride, and being treated nitbout Indignl-
lin, like anj other Memlier cf the Comraunity, he Inbi*
^.^uaitws witbow Vtuicocc, Jnrokace, or Repacity,
•aif
( 384 )
and endcarours to recomtncnd biiiilelf by Ofiiciournefs ana
CiTility.
< la this prefent Method of Piyaihnt, Sir; the Troopi
have always one Month*) Pay advanced, and receive their
ivgular Allowance on the Hated Day i (o that every Man has
it in his Power to pay bis Landlord every Night, for what
he faai had in the Day ; or, if he imagines himfelf able to
procure his own Provifions at more Advanuge, he Can how
go to Market with hts own Money.
* Jt appears therefore to ihe. Sir, that the Amendmeat
now propofed Is the proper Mean betwedo the diflTerent Iii-
tereft of the Inn-keeper and Soldier, by which neither is
made the Slave of the other, and by which we ihatl leave to
both Opportunities of Kiodnefs, but take from thfem tht
Power ol OpprcflioD.*
Mr. Carew.
S I K.
JAi. Carew.} ' The Amendment now offered is not, in my Opinion, (6
unreafonable or unequitable as to demand a warm and ftrc-
nuous Oppoficion, nor fo compleat as not to be fubjeA CO
fome Objcdions ; ObjeAions which, however, may be ca-
fily removed, and which would perhaps have been obviated,
had they been forefeen by the Gentleman who propcrfed it.
* The Allowance, Sir, of fmall Liquors propoud,! an-
not but think more than fufficient; three Quarts a Oar ar6
fnrety more than the Demands of Nature make Decenary,
and I know not why the Legiflature Ihould promote, or con-
firm in the Soldiery, a Vice to which they are already tod
much inclined, the Habit of Tipling.
* The Innkeeper, Sir, will be heavily burdened by iht
Obligation to fupply the Soldiers with fo man^ of the N»-
ceflaries of Life without Payment, and therefore ic m*/ be
jullly expelled by him, that oo Saperfluitica Ihould be eo-
joyed at his Expence,
■ But there rrjnaitn another Objeaion, Sif, of £u more
Importance, and which mult be removed before this CUufb
can be reafonably pafTed into a Law. It is not declared, or
not with fufficient Perfpicuity, Chat it is to be left to the
Choice of the Inn-keeper, whether he Will fumifli the Sol-
dier with Proviftons at ^d. a Day, or with the Neceflarib
enumerated in the Claafe for nothing. If it ii to be kfi lo
the Choice of the Soldier, the Vifiwiller receives no Relitf
from the Amendment, to whofe Option, iince be muft fafir
in either Cafe, it ought to be referred, becaufe he only cik
tcll bv which Method he Quit fufier leafi/
(335)
Wr. Veltwi CornwalL
S I .,
■ U is not without the ginteft Diffitfcnce that X r'iCt to op- Mr. Vtlt-
pot'e cbe Geiitlemin who offered [he Amcnilmcnt, fiir hit A- ComtnlL-
bditics are fo tar fupertor ro mine, that I objcft wjrhout
Hope of being Bblc m (opporr my Objcaion, and contend
With an abfo1u:c CercAinty of being overcome. I know not
whether it may beillowed metochfeive. ihiic the Oiffrrence
between our Faoilijei is with regaid toSircfrgtn ard Qaick-
aril, the lame as bctnecn the C'yJcr of hiiGioniry and ibic
(if taioe, except that in rne Part of the P&nllcl the Advan-
Pge It on our Si Je, and in the other on his,
• TTic Cyder. Sir. 0/ our Country ii oae of our mod rala-
■kle Commoditie!, (a much eftcemcd in ditbni Places, that
oof Mrrehanis often fe!l it by the Bottle, frir more than tha
SoUier hA* to give for tbc ProvifioD of a Day, and of fuch
Scmgtii, [hat I, who am accuRomcd to the LTfe of it. never
wi«ftble to drinic rhr«e Quarts in any Angle Day.
' 1/ tbeicforc. Sir, tbc Soldier is to have three Quarts of
tkii Cyder, when Small-Beer is not cjfily to be prociifcd.
im only (he tnn-keepcr, but the Army will be iojiired t for
wkugreztrr Harm cin be done lOftny Mm, than to initiate
Mm in aHabtt of Intetnpeijnce.' And what Outrages and
IHbtmcin may not be expected from Men rruiled with
, and kept from Day co Day. ard (rOm Mooih to
. in habitual Diunkenoefi by a Decree of tlie Puli^-
i-ient ,'
Hit William Yongc.
S I a.
• I know not why the Centlemait has thocghc thita pro- jir
^Opportunity for dilpl;tyinK hi> £'.cx]uecK:e in Che Fiaile Yungc
ti Ui own Cyder. That he iovei bis owo Country cannot
\ WwMdered. for 00 Pftflian is more aniverlal, and feu- kit
tb ht cenfuT^ i but he is not 10 iinagine that the Produce of
Iw native Sott will be gcncr:illy allowed to excel that uf o-
Chct Countici. bcciiuie early Hnbiti have endeared it to him.
tad ^milurilcd ic to his far'.icLtUr Palate.
' 'I'be Naiivci of every Piacc preier their own FruiM inJ
tWir own IJquor. srKl theicftirc no Irtetencecan be drawn
'ri^nt Apptot>.tii«n in apparently piriiil. t'toax this Pteju-
o.(c I am /ar from (nlpcilirg myicif free, tior am dcfiroin
<iri(»dul.iioui to overcvuic it : Neither am I afraid of expof-
iag myftlf to all the Ccnl'ure that !'o ilir-ooen; a Prcpoll'eiriaa
may bnag upon me, by declaring, th&l» in my Opinion, the
Cydei ol my native Country ii of rt^tul Excellence with
Itni which thl« CenUcmtn bat fa libcialty extolled.*
Vol. VU. D d d Mr.
( 386)
Mr. Vclters Cornwall.
S I R,
Mr Veltera * ^°* ''"'^ ' expeft Viflory in this Cdntroverfy I havd
Cornwall. already declared, and I need not obferve of how fmall Im-
portance it is what Soil produces Cyder of the greateft Ex-
cellence and Value ; fince if there be other Places where the
Cyder is equally efteetned. and purchafed at the Tame Rate,
it is yet more neceflary to jirovide, by rome Exception, thic
the Soldier fliall not be entitled to demand of the ViAuiJ-
ler, Liquor to more than thrice the Value of his Piy^ior
be allowed to revel in continual Orunkennefsi and to cor-
rupt his Morals, and enervate his Liinbi by inccflknt Dc-
"bauchery.
■ 3ut fince. Sir, the Preference due to the Cyder of ny
Country has been denied, in my Opinion, with great Pir-
iiatity and Injudice, I think myfelf obliged, by all the Laws
of Honour and Gratitude, to Hand up once more to vindi-
cate its Superiority, and aflertita Value.
' The Laws of Honour, Sir, require this from me, as
they oblige every Man to fland forth a Vindicator of Merit
flighted and opprelTed ; and Gratitude calls loudly upon me
to exert mylelf in the ProtcQion of that to which I have
been often indebted for a plealin^ Sufperife of Care, and i
welcome Flow of Spirits and Gaiety.
* The Cyder. Sir, which I am now rcfcning from con-
temptuous Coroparifons has often exhileratcd my (bcial Houn,
enlivened the Freedom of Converfation, and improved the
Tendernefs of Frtendlhip, and Ihall not therefore now want
a Panegyrilt. It is one of thofe few SubjeAi on which an
Encomiall may expatiate without deviating from the Truth.
< Would the honourable Gentleman, Sir, who has this
vilified this Wonder-working NeAar, but honour my Table
with Ms Company, he would quickly be fcrced to retnft
his Cenfures, and, as many of Iris Countrymen hare done,
coofefs that nothing equal to it is produced in any other Pan
of the Globe ; nor will this Confeffioo be the Effeft of hn
Regard to Foiitenefs, but of his Adherence to Truth.
< Of Liquor tike this. Sir, two Quarts ia undoubtedly
fufficicnt fb' A daily Allowance, in the Lieu of Small-beer,
nor ought even that to be determined b^ the Choke of the
SoiJier, but of the Inn-keeper, for whole Benefit this Clanfe
is laid to bk' infertrd, and from whofe Grievances I hope we
fiisM ro< (ufler our Attention to be diverted by any iocklentat
QuellioBs or ludicroni Djfputcs.*
Mr/
Mr. Gere.
Si It.
• Thu tiMB Allowanee of two QoarU ■ JHy U roKcieni* ^p j-q,^
Bid thai «o d— tnd more is a wanton Indulgenct-of Appciioe*
iacxperioMMAlIj' IcDowr, >nd [hcTeTote ao more ougltc to
te tmpofcd Dpontht Inn-keepen.
• Nor 11 thii. Sir. the only Pin of the Claiife that n-
nrc* oar ContiJrntioQ, for fome of the other PirticuUri, to
B> provulriJ by the Vi£li»ller. iniiy ealily hroiih prrverfe
Ttmpcr; with an Opporcunity of wrangling : Vincgtr is not
(D be b&d m evcr>- Part of the Kingdom ; and nrbcie it da-
aot be pnxarttl.ogghinotiQ berccjuircd ; fbr i»iihcr Rea-
foa not Experience will inform us that VtDCgorovgbc to be
nalt'd maong (he Neccifincsof Life.*
"•a William Vonge.
S I R,
• By the Altcfjtion now made in the CI*olc, the Ion- _. „,,...
iMpeii Ar« cfiV^iuily iclicved fioni a grCAt Part of the yurvgc ^
taota Which, la mr Op.oion, this AQ. has hiiheno laid
ipon ibcm i the Ncccftity of furnilhing the So^d^en qiur-
Rt'd upon ibcm With rroviiloai it the fU:cd Price, whacever
B^ht be thciictici;y uf thcSealonorol the Count;y. That
An wai the Intrnt^on of the AH. is atfcncJ by (hafe wbofe
~- '.-oD and Piomotion are lutlicicnt Evjdencei ot their
■n ihe IntcipreiAtiooor our l^aws.
' Tut: |iin-!<cfpcr may now either accept or refufe the li-
niird Prcc.ii' i' (hall appear to him mofl conlilknt with bit
rntercltt no- lif future any Koom (or tnur-
ttttftej; X'. 'T ii, fincc he may uUigc chat
S»i Ti Ii« cAtUiQt iuiiiyt 10 plcafe liimfcif Utter at
bji I ■ , ~ncc.
• i 6c Choice of the Ufjuor it likewife wholly referred to
lie Thfi-krcpct i for the Wordi in the Cl.iufc rct^uiring, that
l< r, I iTfi three QuaiC; ufSmall B<cr, ot Crtirr, heooai>
;. - b'v vvi;ti the I^w by Jupplying cither; aiw)
the;' Cyder in any particular Couniiy ji
"■■ I .. ...1..C m the QueQiun before u) ; ifCyder
' valQiible than Small Beer, it may be withheld ; if
,. ^ ...tjper, it may he fubllitutcd in iti Piacci (o that thi
[J[iB-kceper his noiLtng to cunlultbul his own Interet).
• I'bat this it the meining qf ibe Claare, ii, I fuppofe,
rioui to every Mao that bear» it read, and thcreiorc I fee
Reafon for any Alterations, becaule 1 know not any
IfVeA which they can poffibly have, caceptthatof obfcuring
tec Scafc which ia now too clear to be nuAalwiu'
Ddd 2 Sir
("388 )
Sir John Barnard.
S I R.
fir John * ThoLii;'i it (hauld be granted tliat the Claufe before u! ii
Bunaril. intelligible to every Meirber of this Aflembly, it will ru
certainly follow, that there is no Neceffity of farther Klu*
cidatior.s ; for a Luw, very eaOly underliood by thofe uho
make it, may be obicure to others who are Ufa acquajoied
with our general Intention, lere ski'ed ia the Niceiiet of
X^ngusge. or lefb accullomed to the Stile of Laws.
< Jris to be confideird, that this Law will chiefly aFeft
a Ci^'- jf Men \eiy liale inltiu^led in Literature, and very
unzb''^ ■■ ■ "iraw Intcrenres ; Mt!., to whom we ortcD find il
nccL-lCiry ... common Calea to ur F-xpbnatioDs, and faailiat
T!iii(traiions,iLiiu of whom it mi/ lociwunreafonably fufprAed,
t- .: r.-ne Want of Education, which makea them igno-
I'iiLi., '.. . -' ::n petulant, and at Once incline thrm to
urp.rii^:*' ' ^' '■ '^ 'Ti of the Means of deciding their
Coniiovi;.li;s.
■ Tl<at both liiii-hu>iut.t' w.-i Soldiers are, for the greatcft
Part, of this Rank avA ^inipcr. 1 fuppofe, Sir, every Gentle*
in'<n knr)ws from A-Auy ULfeivaiion, and tiierefore it will, I
hope, be tl.oxght ncc'iT.iy lo dcfcend to (heir UnderfliBd-
jng), i^nd to give tlitrm I. >ws in lerms of which they Will
know the meaning; we (htll otherwifc more conluttthc In-
tf rcll of tlic L'jU ycrt th n the Inn-holdei s i and only by ou
Alteration produce a Ncceifity of another.
• ] am [hercfure delirous. Sir, that all the Difficulties,
which have been mentioned by every Gentleman on ftis Oc-
cafiuo, (hould be removed by clear, familiar, and determinate
ExprcfTions ; for what they hive found difiicult, may eafily
be to an Inn-holder or Soldier abfolutely inexplicable.
* I cannot but dcclare.while I am (peaking on this SubjfA,
tiiat, in my Opinion, two Qnarts of Liquor wilt be a luffi-
cient Allowance, if we conTider the Demands of Nature,
more cannot be required ; if we examine the Expence of the
Inn-holder, he ought not to fupply Soldiers with a greater
Qiumi:y for nothing. It is to be remembered, that Small-
beer, like other Liquors, is charged with an Excife in Public
lioufes, and that two Quarts will probably coft the Landlord
a Penny; and as we cannot fuppofe, that Fire. Candles, Vine-
gar, Salt, fepper, and the Uleof iheUtenfils. and Lodging,
can be furnilh'd for lefs than Three-pence a Day, every Sol-
dier that is quartcr'd upon 3 Public Houfe, may be confider*d
as a Tax ot fix Pounds a Year; a heavy Burthen ! which
Utc]y ought pot to be aggravated by unRcceflkiy Impofitioni.'
The
( 389 )
The Comroitiee having gone thro* the Bill, and rcttled the
Asaadmcmt, the Chtuoiaa wai ordered to make hit Re-
port Ibe next Dif.
Accordingly the fsid Repoft was ibeo read, and the A-
RcadmcBU to the CUufei in Debate, wnich then ran thut:
Thxt the Officen nod Soldiers to be quartered and bit-
kudfti aforeraid, Iball be received, and fnrailhcd with Diet
Md Smail-Beer hy the O^Bcrs of the Ions, Livery -Siabk-i,
Ale-Hacfcf, V'i^tu^tlling llourcs, &c. paying and illowiDg
far tbc (amc the feveritl Rjitct mentioned.
Pfotided, That in cafe the Ian-holder, on whom any
NWconinifnon Officers nr Soldiers Ihall be qoanered by
vifOC of (bii Act, {except on a March) fhall be dcGrout to
fafaift fach Officers or Soldiers with Caodlei, Vinegar, and
Sail, aod with eirher Small. Beer or Cydvr, noc exceedtng
thtcr Qitam for each Man a Day, gratis, and to allow ihea
the C(c of Fite, aoJ the nccciTiry DtenGls for dreffing aisd
catiag their Meat, aiKl fliitl give Notice of fuch his Dchre
la tike comnixnding Ufliccrs, and fliall (arniOi and allow
ihOD the fame accorJingty; then. Kod in Tuch CaJe, the
MoAcocimitTion Officers nnd Soldiers foqoiriercd fhall pro-
rule ifacir own ViiSaali, and the Officer co whom it belongs
n receive, or that doei adually receive the Pjy and SubBf-
mcv of fuch Non cainmiDion OlHcers and Soldiers, (ball
P>f tbc fevcral Slims, payable out of the Subfiltencc^Money
fee Diet and Small Beer, to the Nod comnilHon Oflicers
Utd Sotdtenas afurciaid, and not to the Inn holder, or oiher
fWoo oa whom fucb Non coraDiffioa Ofltcera or SoJdien
■ra qoartetcd.
The Queflion being pnt, whether this Claufe (houM ftand
.c1m>, Mt. Caiew Tpoke to this £jli;d:
S t a,
' Tlio* It may pcrtiapslieallowrd, that the Circumfla.D«t **''■
of o«r picfcDt Situation oblige us to fupport a more numc'
rottt Artny in former Years, fuiely no Argument can be
Bwo frooi ibcm ilut can Ihcw the Neceiiity of a profitle
owaacc to our Soldiers, or of gntifymg their Dcfircs hy
Oppreflioti of the Inn-holden.
U, Sir, the Defigru of our Eoemics are fo malicious,
tbrtr Power fo formidable, as to demand AogmeotitioDf
Mir I'roops, and Addiiioiia to our naturulSecuritiet, they
aaghlftirely to imprefaupon ui the Ncctlfiiyof frugal Mea-
loM*. that no ufclcJi Burdeok mty be imposed upon ib«
* T»
Cntw.
( 390 )
F To furnKh two Quarts of Beer, Sir, every Day fat dq<
thing, h undoubtedly an Impofitton fufliciently grievoas, anil
I can, therefore, dil'covcr no Reafon for which an Allow-
ance of three fhould be ellablilhed ; a Propofal injurious to
the Viftualler, becaiife it exifli more than he can afFord to
allow ; and of r.o Bcuclitto the Soldier, becaufe it offers him
ciore than he can want.'
^ Sir Williani Vongc.
S I R,
;ii( Wil^ii^n * ^f 'C >' ''"1 InHance of Mifcondiitl to fpend upon aaf
Vt^pS*^- Affair iDore Tinie than the Importance of it dcfcrves, I am
afraid lli3t the Cl^ule to which our Attention is now recalled
may expofc us to Cenfure, and that wc may be charged wilJi
negleiUng weighty ConiroverGe^, and national QueUioni, to
flebate upon Tniles; of wafting our Spirits upas SubjeCti
unworthy of Contention ; of delcattng the Expe£tatioos of
the Public, and diverting our Eiiemisb rather thaa oppofiag
them.
' £ut, Sir, as nothing hat a more itnmcdiate Tendency lo
the Security of the Nation than a proper Eflabliftinicnt of
OHT Forces, and as the Regulation of their Quarters, is one of
the moll necellary and difficult Paris of the Eflablilhnieat, it
19 requifttc that we think no Queilion of this kind too trivial
for our Confideration, {i.nce very dangerous DiilorbaDcei
have often been produced by petty Dilputes.
' The Quantity, Sir, of Small-Beer lo be allcwed by the
Viuiiitllfr to thole Soldiers who fli:i[l ptovide their own V'ic-
ti;al£, wi>g dit^|tutc-d Yeilerday, and, as 1 thought, agreed
upon ; but fince this Spirit is revived, I muA take the Op*
poiLuni'y to declare that we ought not to a^ign lefs than 'three
Qu^rt!. a Dny to bach Man; for it is to be remembered hw
fhoi'e who eliiirate the Demands by their own, how mitcn
their w:iy of Lite is different from that of a common Sol-
fTicr. and how little he can be charged with WantODsefi anil
Supeifxui:y, ib; dri;iking more fmall Liquor chifl tbem-
Jelves.
\ There are few Members of this Houfe, who do not,
inore than once a Day, drink Tea, Coffee, Chocolate, or
fpTRe other coding and diluting Infufion; Delicacies wluch
the Soldier cannot purchafe, to which he is entirely a Stiu-
gcr. End of which the Place iDuil be fupplied by fome other
Vheap and wh^jlToire Liquors.
* My Sir, t^cfe Gentlemen, whole clofe Atteptioo to the
ifHteiei* o\ the f iio-hcld^r has perhaps abftrii<\ed them, ia
ibmc Degree, from any Regard to the Neceffities of a So^
^i;^ wiil k:c\ifc!it to allow Lira five Pints a Day, I dull coa-
rciMl
( 39« )
^uA so lont^cr : for ibo' I cinnot agree ttiat it Ui rufficlenf
?loTifi<ni. yet. ai other Gendemen cqoally able to jaige tn
tkh iMbirci with myk\f. are of a tliffcreoi Opinion, I (hull
fcr» my R«gwd fur their Senitments,by dcfiitiagfrom Op-
fokuov. *
Lmtl BaltJRioT?.
S I «, ^
* J im not Bblc to difcovcr sny Ne«flity of compforfiir- io't^
bgtliit Octuie, by »k.in£ the Mean liecwcrcu tlic iwo uiff^- B«lriinorE
mt Optnront, or for dcn/tng la ciie So dicrs whkt every
Li^M.-cr «[ Serving m»ti wouiJ murmur to be refured fur a
»eve. Sir^ every Gcotleman who examine) the Ex-
hiiKimily. will find that each of hit Strvanii cun>
ily at leallihicc Quam of Small Beer, and lu'cly rt
■je lequired that A&oMiet fhou'd live in i perpetnal
.M^x 1,-t ^ar witi) hji Contttiution, BDd ft conilui Joability
MfiOBpIy with the Calls ol Natiuc'
Gecenl Handy&dei
5 1 R,
■ TS< IncTinMJoo Acwn by feveral Gtnliemen &r i pe- Gcntfal
hm'4 anj fcantv Pfovifioo (or the Soldier, mult, in my HandfUtv.
pfi — proceed trom an inatteottve Coalliieriiiioq o| hit
^ and will therefore be removed by layini^ before them a&
Aonani of hit Conditiooi and comparing bli daily Pjy with
kit daily E^tpcntei.
• The whole Puy of a Foot Soldier, Sir, ii fid. a Day, of
vKxh he ij to pay 4.4. to bit Landlord for bis Diet, or,
«bac i< very n«»r)y the I'ame, tocury 4d. daily (oihe Kfat-
kr:, fnr ' ' 'W fma|I a Supply of Pruvlfioni he cati
biii^to^ ii. ctp:ci:*Ily m limeof Swrciiy, I need
■«imtat*oo. •
' Tbcrr fefn«in then only T«o-"pence, Sir, to be diftnTwted
lor Thiagi not immediately receffiiry (or rhc Prcfcrvaiion of
flA, but which on Man Can want without being defpicable
to others, and bu'thenlome to bimfelf. T^vo pence a Day ii
jail tiat a Sotdier hii to lay out upon Cleanlinc^ and Dccea-
ley, tad with which he 11 litrcwt^e to keep hii Armi in Or-
.11^ t., I'.Mioln litmlclf wt[h fome Part of hisCIoathingi
Dcduttiont, lie r^ from rwn.pence a Daf
u-r.. ^ ..ac Mcaci of enjoying u few Momcnlt io the
'with hit Oampanronn oircr a Cap of Ale. ii not htf
rtxtuu [T)-Jch more to be envied than hit Luxury t Or
c»a it be c^ui ,tJ upon him that be enjuy: more than hilt
;8bareof ii->* f^nKiiy of L^kf Ii he to be burdened #iih
Cxpcbcci Irll be Iboald hwrd up cb* public Motcy^
flop
( 39^ )
ftop tbe Circulation of Coid, aod euro ^n^t et Ufnrer
with Tno-pence s Day ?
< I have been (o long acquainted, Sir, with the SoUtCt'i
CharaAcr, that I will adventure tofecure him from the CJurp
of Avarice, and to promile that whatever he (hall poflcfs not
neceflary to Life, he will cajoy to the Advaouge of hii
Landlord.'
Mr. Campbell.
Sir,
Mr. Campbell. * I am far froin intending to oppofe this PropoftI of five
Pinti, though, upon a rigorous Examination, it might appear
more than the mere Wants of Nature require, for I cannot
bat declare that this Queftion has too long engaged ihe At-
tention of the Houlc, and that the Reprdenutives of a
mighty Nation, befet with £nemiei, and encumbered with
Difficulties, feem to ferget their Importance and their Dig-
nity, by wrangling from Day to Day upon a Pint of Snail-
beer.
* I conceive the Bill which we are now confideriag, Sir,
not as a perpetual and Handing Law, to be inrer-woveo with
our Conltitution, or added to the Principles of our Govern-
ment, but as a temporary Eftabliftiment for the prcfeot Year ;
an Expedient to be laid afidewhen our Aftalraceafe to require
it ; an expcrimenul Eflay of a new PraAice, which may be
changed or continued according to its Succefs.
< ToaUow, Sir, five Pints of Small beer a Day to obi Sol-
dieri for a lingle Year can produce no formidable iDConveai-
encies, and may, though i[ (hould not be entirely approved,
be of lefs Diladvantage to tbe Public than the Wafte of ano-
tber Day.
An Alteration was made to Five Pints inRead of three
Quarts, and ihe Bill, thus amended, was ordered to be en-
grofliEd ; and a few Days afterwards being read a third lime
was pafTcd, and ordered to the Lords.
The Claufe being read. That the Jullices of Pace Ihall,
npon proper Application. ilTue out Warrants to the Coalla-
bies, &c. to fearch by Day or Night, for all fuch ScanMn or
fealaring Men as (hall withdraw or conceal thcinfelTei with-
in their refpeflive Jurifdiflions. and for this Purpofe to make
a general Search, in which it Ihall be lawful for then CO en-
ter any Houfe, where they Hiall fufpeA fuch Seaaea to he
concealed, and if Entrance be not readily admitted then,
to force open the Doors of fuch Houfe, in order to mke
fuch Search.— —And that whoever Hull preftime tohaifaoor
or conceal any fuch Seamen, or wilfliily do any thine to
hinderor fruArate the Seatch, for every fuch Offence mall,
(here
Lonl Gagt flood up ud fpoke to the ra]lowing ESt&.
Mr. Spnkcr.
> I annec fit In thit Pliic«, >nd hnr Tucb a Giafe read, x.or.1 Gmp«
viUkout dccUrinj; rnyfcl/igiintl it i bcciul'e J thick ic »bto'
bid/ incanliltent witb the Liberties of. my Caanifjr. An
Eaflilhnun'a Hook his alwny* been faid to be hit Caflle :
N« Man ii 10 enter into it without hit Leave, unteA there be
I tronj; SulpiciOD of bU having been guilty of fome very
vnc 'ric. and ihut Sul~f>icion decliired upon Oath by
fam^ ■-> ol good Credit. Uui by ibii Clnufc. the
Boole (it cicry Man in England 11 to be laid open, both by
Diiravd by Night, to all ibe petty Conllablcs in his Ncigh-
lovbood It'luch a Cluifc (hould paU into a Lav, cin «njr
ilM in EogUnd be f:iid to be free i On any ManV I'ropertjf
be iudto be fife ; cfpeciaUy when we comider the Qiau£l«r
d'»lny of thoicwbo ferfe the UlSce ol CodOjUIc iur Hire?
* Thii, Str. would be of fuch dangeron* Confrquencc to
the Prftpeniei n* well as Ute Libcrcici or the Sur^jefl, that no
Kacefiity on juilify otir pftOing fiich n Law ; and the only
ineat I h«vc heard madeufc of in in Favour, is rather.
Opinion, an Argument ncainll it. When this Bill
iiA bfoaght in, wc were roTd. ai xn Argument for it,
there WIS fuch a Liw piflMl in the ;th VearofQuecii
IC • but M that Law i"Hb(it)ed for » Yesr only, nad ai ic
Li neither coniinued nor revived, it it looie a convincing
^roof, tbjt (be Ijwwh found inconvrnient and daogeroM,
Out U wa« found DOE to .-inl'wer the Pinpofc intended, nnd
1 wa agjiicit ityiog tbe Eaperuncni a fecand
Sir Cfcarlei Wager.
• Ai it i> hardly polTiblt fo contrive uiy Law for the pub- Sir Chitles
iSinrke, ihatnmv not 4eem ir^oevenient tu privj<lc Men 1 Wager.
I SI if) foch a numcrom AfTemhly, ibe/c mult be a great
rantty at Scniimriiti. I txpcttrd, when thtt Bill ujii fxit
jbc in, 10 h««r >t '>ppoleo, ftrTiiMv by :hoic (.ictitlc-
•Ko bA(jpeit aE pretent to h.i • 'i* m onr r\dmini*
bvciulc iJiey irc iK^c Icm . : ij>Si-u't>« that
I be mtlwlth in providing fut tlic |iublic Sctvrce. even
Pailiameni hai j^rtrvUU the :>unif nrcelLuy for tint
i(t t to wbich''! jDOlt add, that they ire gttxraJIy but
£ c c coo
( 394 ) ,
too jnloai of the Liberdci of the Subjeft, which makci tbcin
take the Alarm at every Thing that looka like an ExtcmfiaD
of the Powera of our Goveroment, however necefikry that
Extenlion may be for the Eafe or Safety of the People.
' This, Sir, is the Cafe at prcfent. Every Ge«Iem»
mull grant, that hii Majefty's Navy ought to be nann'di be-
caofe without Men it can be of no Service to the Nation ; but
as the Law now Hands, our GoTemment labours under infu*
perable Difficoliiei in providing a fufficient Number of Sea-
men for the Service of the Navy. They have cried Prcfiag :
They have tried Embargoes : They have tried evevy Me-
thod the Law admits of. without Succcfs t and I do not « all
wonder at iti lor when a Seamen expcAi 3/. a Month in the
Merchant Service, I do not wonder at hii endeavouring to
avoid being preffed into his Majefly's Service, where he hti
but a little more than toi. He does thia by abfcondiag and
concealing himfelf till he finds tn Opportaatiy tor entering
into the Merchant Service, and therefore thofe now employ-
ed in oar Government find it abfoluteiy necclliiry for them
to have a Power to fearch for and apprehend foch Seamen,
either by Night or by Day, and to break open Doors* if Ad-
mittance Ihould be denied to the Civil Officer.
' This Power, 'tis true, Sir. if it were to be made 1 bad
Ufe of, might, like all other Powers, prove tronbleliime and
inconvenient to theSubjrCl} but whilJl it is properly ulcd,
it can be inconvenient to none but thole whoconceal Seamen
in their Houfes, or at teaft to fuch as give Sufpicion of their
doing fo, which can never be the Cafe of any Man of Rank
or Ftgtire in the Kingdom 1 and in modelling this Clanfe, all
polGble Care has, I think, been taken to prevent this Pow-
er's being made an improper or bad Ufe of; for the JuAjccs
of Peace, before they can order a Search fbr Seamen, mult
hive an Aathority from the Admiralty, and after theyikave
this Authority, they are to iffliie their Orders, not to a Prefa-
Gang, or Officer of the Navy, but to the Conflafalcs. who
are always luch as live in the Neighbourhood, andbeisgwel]
known, might ealily be profecutcd and punifhed, OionU they
any way milbehave in the Execution of their OfBce.
' 1 cannot therefore, Sir, form to myfelf nny Apprehea-
fion, or imagine the leaft Danger from our paffing thit Claufc
into a Law. A Man's Houfe will ftill behii Caftic : Sboald
rhis CUufe pafs into a Law, no Man's Hoofe could be forced
open, unleU he is guilty of a Crime, or has by Ibme Mifcon-
du£t given Caufe to fufpeA his being guilty. I fiiy guilty of
a Crime, Sir; for, I think, it is « very great CSnle in any
Man to withdraw himfelf from the Service of his Country,
when the Safety, perhaps the very Being c^ his Country de-
pend*
( $95)
■pOA bit Service; ind therefore I mall l^ink it &
tA a TCTy bcnious Natnre in ihofe who conceal Sea-
16 witfadnwing from the Service of the Crown : The
Safety as much require*, and, io my Opinion, tbey
w nBch deiem to be expofed to the D;inger of liaving their
Uaafc* fcarciicd, or their Doors forced open, as thoTe tbit
ItdXMirThtevei, or conceal (lolen Goods ; aod tfao'tbe Pow-
ir of fintching the Houfes of fuch Criminal!, or riir)>cf!cd
OiininaU, and breaking open their Doors in Cafe of Non<
mlmttOMOt, hit been eltablifbed for Agei, >ci it has never
huB (oand ioconvenieat to innoctot Men, or dingcrotu to
Ite LibcfiietoftheSubjed.
• I believe, Sir, no Gcitilcman ntll fuppofe that thofc who
•m employed in our Adminifirarion, in the {th Year of the
Uu Qiiecs, had any Dcfigni agsitift the Liberties of their
Loontrr. 1 believe, it will b: venerally &dmtiicd, they had
aipcat a Regard for both the Uberticsaed Properties of their
fUfe* 6«bieAi. at my Adminiftratieo ever had. yet they
nurivcd and got psAed fccb a Law ai b now propoted.
TUi iheurs . it wat not thea thought, that ft)ch a Law would be
efdaagcroui Coo^cqaeoee to the Properties, or an Encroach-
mau npoa the Ltberties of the Subject i ftnd if that Law
maaoi uoiiBued or revived, ii w3s aot becaufe of any la-
CDnvcDiettte found in it, but becaufe there wai noOcoaftoa
iir contiottiDg or reviving it. There can sever be any Occa-
fiai hr foch a Law, but at, or fooa after the Beginning of a
War, iwr when we are ingaged with an Kocmy pcHc^d of
ft very great aava) Force ; am) as the naval Power of France
ted bcea fo much broke in the Beginning of tbit War, that
Attf (Iv/l never afterwards fiiceui at Sea, %ve bad no Occa-
fioa for coatiouingor reviving thia I^u- at any Time after
tht Year 1706.
* Th«Ca(i;,Sir, may now bethefiune: If we p:i ft the Law
•ow propofcd, it will be of great nod immediate Service with
■■gard to the Manning hit MajeAy't Navy 1 and if we (hould
Bahc it to (ubfcl but for a Year, thert may probably be 00
Oacafiofl forc(»iiBuia| fe; or, if there ttioutd, we may con.
liMi k htti from Year to Year, till tb> Occafioa we have for
it cures; fothat I can apprcbend do Banger fron our paf^
fiag u iA the Form iiftiadi at prcTcni, and ai I can think of
■••ilicr Method for mnaine the Ships wc have now in
iSnBBitfiioo, I mull ihmfbf* dc for the Clanfc, and 11 it is
— ceflary at this immediste junfturt, 1 hope it will be paficd
Law.*
6ir John BamtnJ,
lit.
* The Nuure aitd Coafcfjuencei of thtClaule now auler $it joha Bac
3
( 39« )
our Confi^dtJon. uere fo fully exptaiofd spos A»
Reading orcbuCJl.thikt llhouU iKKt)av« gnt» f9mr%lia^
ble upoa tbii OccAfioo. but ai tm nl ArguiDCOb wcf« Mi
thrown our. by way cf Ani'wer to the ObJKAiea* I iui mi
to the Bill^to which I had noc thcD an Oppofionit* taasUa
any Reply , I (hiU now begLcav< to Oie'W tkc WciJuefrtf
thole Argumenii, and toioiarcc the ObjcAiOOi I dia tait^
which to me appear the llrtingcr. the more I ooafcdo ito
Nature of this UiH. rfpccully when I compare it wHJldi
Nature of our Conllituclon, sod (onriikr tt>c V(e ihMMf
be made ofil by £ MioiQei, who relolvcs to Krvc «a JtfMB
of Prace io any Coaoiry, bui I'ucb s> will yield > bind Olfr
dicnce to ha Ordcn
■ We were told. S:r, thit priv^ie Jntercfi miia il«>i>> t^
way to the public ; that the Xiaonins of tbv tio\
z public Concern of the grcatcll Coi.'fa^t-T:cr .in
fore every private Inierelt auH be i
camc)ab(oIuttIy neceflary todo fo. i. ■-».,. «f,...
GcndetncQ, if they thiok ihe Trade oftbc Nan
Concern ? VVfait Gemletncn may do who have locf*.'-'- : .—
or Employrnenit uoder the Crown [ do ooi know * tMl
fare, if out laodcdGcntIcm«ii do not lock upon Trair
public Iniercd. ihcy «ill very foon fictd thctr prmLrli
vciy mvcliditninilhed. and in fome f'.aas zlawA tmutttf
nihilsced. It ta from our Trade, Sir, wc bare
cur ?cwer, our Navy, and oui Somen : aad
Hiould tofc our Trade, either by NrglcA. or by
10 intuffenible Hardl^ipi, we Ihoutd MVC bo
fuch a law as ia now propoftd. foi im (booM atit
SeaoiCTi, Dor Si.ips to put Seamen on board of Oi>
baa already fuffcred very confiticrably by (be Mok^
have calcen for mafining our Navy, aiwl by thv Bdt f«l
put an End to the very Breed of our Scajocn t ibtH '
will goto Sea, or breed btrafcif up a Sailor, whn b
ierit that, by the Iavh of hii Counuy.be tbcreby
bTe [o be prd&d, whenever a Miultcr IbUl ulu
Hcjd to li; out a Squadron, cither fat Shew ot Servi
that if he conceals bimliilf. he uiobi hustcd aim
ivcre .1 rr.iiitnfjr. Felon.
* ' v.-gumtct made ufe of to Pftvoaeof-
wai, ll.- ;. ^te a great Nuaiuer vi'SaUor*livi
dowo the Cquciry, and that there aic u Ictft 6ooo
itioyed in our CoaUinj Trade. A* to the SaJ)ivt
urktngin rheCoaniiy, and um^illinp to enter either
Merchant Sir vice, or the ^r vice of the "'--■■ ' ^
couiJ be apprehended, if ihey cannot t-"
ward offcretl bjF ihil fiUI, to enter iotohu .>Mje.:j ii^jvioff
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I do not bctiavc there is any great Number of ihem { aiM),
ifure. BO Gentieman oflbJ! Iloufe can u'iih good Rea-
t«£nn (here is t Tor if be couii, Jir mutt then know where.
It (bey are to be met with, a' d in that Care he would
Hcuinly gtve the Goveromcnt Notice of it, to tlie BnJ the/
V%^t be apprchL-nded and fcDl on boird the Navy. That
tkreare a ifmi Nuinhrr of Somen forking in e^e Coua*
t theirfoTC t«ke to be a league AOertion, mide uTc of to
favour ufthii B<|1, without any Iblid Foundation ; and the
Mr Aficrtton uf there bciag at leaA 6000 Seamen employ-
SCtcr Coalling Trade ii, 1 am convinced, without the
Foundation. 1 do not believe, Sir. there is a fuurtfa
ihe Number, able-bodied, expert Seamen, employed
Hrar Coalting Trai^e : for brftdes the Mailer, ourCoafling
[VfCr't fcVom hAvc above one or twofuch Seamen on bojrd,
! Mil ol'ihe Crew beirg made up of old Seamen obnve ^^
an of Age, young Smnea under 18, Apprentices to the
Wafcf, Bod Landmen that were never perhaps before it Sraj
Hd U iK> Coallirg Veflel can fafely venture to Sea. wiihoat
•DC o( two able bodied, expert Seamen on board, belide the
Idifler, if jrou (hould take from them fuch as are now em*
ytofcd ia that Trade, yon would put an entire Stop to it at
oner, th« Confetiuencei of which would fooo become terrible,
fffecmily here at London, where the People are under a Ne-
of having a continual Supply from alnofl every Cor*
rr of l^e Kingdom,
I am theiefore convinced, Sir, ihoold tbii CUufebe paf-
racD a Law, ihii its Authors and Advocttei Should And
tfeivrt very much miflaken as to its EfilA. It might,
ikap*. force fome of our belt Seaitieo into foreign Service,
^pcrmlly fuch ai have been employed in the CalUIndta
TmSc. but [ cannot think it would add any great Number
to tlK Nivy ; ind I am the more convinced of tbii, from
wliai I have )iurd as to ihcEifcAof that Bii| which was paf-
(ed into a I^w in the jth ot the late Queen, and which was
ol Lbc Lame Nature with thi>; for I have been informed,
t^at, b}- Mcan»oI that Bill, they at tliat Timegot but a ftnall
Nembvr of Snmen, which wai the RcaCon of iii not hiving
beta cwilinucd . AithatMiniflry had, I believe, as great a
RcMflifbt the Liberties and Propertwi of their Fellow Sub<
jcwaasay MiniUcr can have, thi» waj with them a prevailing
It tor not infilling upon the Law's being continued 1
arc not to expcA the likeCondefcerfion from every
r.and uicitmuch cafier to prevent a Bill'lbeing palTed
itoa Law, than to prevent the Law's being continued, I (hall
I«-ays be againfl tnitlingMiQittcrs, even with a temporary
Law, wbkb X think daoMrou»io our Confiitotion, howev«r
^ j)laufibl«
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fome wiy or other oaght to be remedied as foon ai poSble
but fureljr this Grievance may be renunred without patting
it ID the Power of a petty Canftabtc to harrafs and oppreft
the baft GentlemaD, or erea the greatcfi Lord in his Ncigb-
boarhood, which would be the Cafe, jf this CliDfie flioaU
pafs into a Law, as will appear to every Gentlemin, who
impartially conftdera the Words of the CUule.
< The jafttces of Peace, it is true. Sir, mall have an y|ii-
thority from the Admiralty, before they can ifliie their Or-
ders for a general Search for Seamen, and the ConAablesottft
" have their Orders from the JuRices, before they can go vpoo
that Search ; but thofe Orders are not to fpccifjr the Hodci
they are to fearch : The Orders are to be general ; and when
a petty Conflable is pit>Tided with fuch a general Oder, and
a Prefs-Gang proper for his Purpofe, whatever it may be, may
not he infift upon fearching the Houfe of any Gentleman, or
any Nobleman in the Neighbourhood i May not he bitak
open the Gates and the Doors of the Houfe, if the Servants
■ ihould refafe to give him Admittance upon the firft Word of
Command f This, Sir, is fuch an unlimited Power, and it
lodged in a Pcrfon of fuch a low Charifter, that I an fiir-
prizcd how it could enter into any Miniller's Head to think,
that aBritilh Parliaoicot would approve of it. laafoic, I
{hall moft heartty give it my Negative, and I hopr, even the
Gentlemen who brought in the Bill, will agree lo leave oat
this Claufe, when they confider fcriouOy the CooreqoeDCCS
it may be attended with.'
Sir William Yonge.
S I a.
Sir Williai?} ' ^V ^^^ Complaints within Doors, and the CUlnoars
Vongc. without, it would Icem as if People thought, that War might
be carried on without expofing our Trade to the lead lacoo-
venience or Danger, which every conljderate and impartial
Man mult allow to be impolQble. That of drawing ■ gial
Number of Seamen out of the Merchant Service, and coafe-
qucntly raifing Seamens Wages in that Service, isone of thofe
Inconveniences, that cannot be avoided at the Beginning of
a War, efpectally after a long Trail of peaceable Times;
and as thole entrulled with the Admin illration of oar public
Affiirs cannot engage Seamen to enter into the King's Service,
by iocrealing their Wages, they mult hsve recourie lo Pref*
fing, in which no regular Method can be obfervedj lor when
the Service rtquire^ it, they muA prefs all they can find,
without regard to their having been for a long or • fliort
Time at S», before their being prelicd into the King's Scr.
vice.
The
( 4or ) -^
tlie Ofilf [WO Methods I hi»e ever honTSfforprewnt-
t*% ihcfc locoiivcniciicies. arc, to kerp a gte4[ Numltcr of
SomcD, eYcn in Time of 'Peace, in ccoiinual fay, snd to
ti«e « gm«nl Rrgitler for oar Seamen, It we h»d kept 20
at ;o.oco Sckmrn in cootioLal Pav and continual Service,
Airtng; ihc mftnjr Yean we liivc been in profound Pence, we
fiwold row have no Oecafion to dr>w tny great Number t>
wtf from our Tr«de ; but this would hive, retren Veari ago,
btca exciaimcd agatnfl, u putting the Nation to an Kxpence
that vn\ bnth urnecclTafy and dangerous: And if we
Wd yetrly fitted and lent out a powerful S^uadroa, for no
•chcr Reafon but (o exercifc our Seamen, and prevent (betr
faigciting their Trade, it would have been ridiculed, and cal-
nuking a Raree-Shew of t?ur Squjtiron and Seamen.
« Then. Sir, » to a Rc;^fler for Seamen, it is certain. th«
t^e Ci^vciDmcnt had an Account of ail the Seamen in the
Bnufli Dominions, snd could call upon fuch of ihrm as they
ptofcd, to come in and lerve on board the Ropl Navy, the
Admirattf would never have Occafton to iCTue any PreffWar-
rutt, nor lolorceany Seaman to lerve out of his Turn, or
loiger than bis Turn. There would then be no Occafion to
cms Men out of a Merchmt-Shipjull returned from 1 long
Voyage, nor for [urning over a Crew from one Mai) of V\ar
n another. Butilitjoi'a Rrgillcr too, we are told, woutd
bt d4agffoui (o our Conlliiutior>, ar>d would make Slaves of
Our Seamen. Thm, Sir. fome Gentlemen are daily com •
plaiaiog of the Hirdlhips to which our Trade and our Sea-
vn Bre<-xpo(ed, ^nd yet they will neither propofe, nor agree
IS any of the Melhodi that are proposed for preventing it»
beiac neccfljry to lubje^i our Trade and our Seamen to tbolie
HarvAiipi- i'o dcFend our own Coalli in time of War. wa
StdA httvc Squidrooi at Sea, or ready to put to Sea ; lopro-
ir6t ovr Trade, we mull have a great Number ofCruiiei?
•odCoovoy%at Sea ( to attack or arruy theKocmy. we mud
(c»d powctfjl Squadron! upon their Coafti. II any of thefe
Scrvkci were ticgle^ed. ihofe that are not in oar Govern*
M OMttt woul I cxcaim againlk ihoic that are, and tbey wouM
H Jdvc Reij'in to exclaim ; when thole that are m our Gove rn-
K f^t auke ulf-cf the only Mrans they have in tbeir Power
I for fupplying thofc Scivicci, the Gcotlemen that happen noC
to be concerned in our Guvcrnmcnt complain of ibetr Coa-
dud, aad lay, they unneccniirily harraU our Trade, aod op>
^rcfl our Sinimen I and when thotc that are in our Govem-
mcet ('rupdle the edabliQiing uf other Mcthodf for lupply-
JPC thote Serrlccf, tAofe that nre not in our Govcrnmmt
«ik« tb« AUnn and iiiy, they arc going to overturn our
Contliiulbn.
F f f ruti
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' Thrfe. Sir, ire the CircumAsncei we now term to be ib :
Thde are v<e Ci>cutnfianccs we have been long in ; ind
whilft ue are in ihefi- CiTCumflstKes, we can never expeft w
to br rafy n hcmr, or to tnike a F'gure abroad ; therefore,
] wifli Gent'cmen would lay alidethrirjealoufies and KearSt
aiid cancu<- hearti'y and fi.iccretjr in a 1 Meafurcs that (tcm
to i-m netiir>rv fur rnib'ing u* to aft with Vigour in our
r Mon.] C^iaciiy. Evrry Vlaii defirt-c to have the public
Si ivict pc'firme: : Every Man defires to have the pub.'ie
Wa^t^ (upp ice) ; but Tew are willing to contribute their diie
S^:irc eith'T of L'boT ur Expence: The Government miift
br- invelled with fuch Powers as are nccefiary for compelling
tlioir tiintarr unwilling : If it Is not, you can never expefl to
a'.-t with V'gour in Time of War, nor to bent quiet in Time
of Peace Yoa ought not therefore to be jnlous ofgivir.g
fuch Powers to your Government: You oirght only to be
wntchfui lell any ol thole Power- Ihould be made a bud LTe
of ; and whill) our Judges be'ow do their Duty, no Power
granted by Par iamtrnt can be made a bad or an oppreffive
U*t; of with Impunity. When there is a legal Remrdy, tbi
Ji.jurrd wi ] cerainiy take Adv-inti.ge of it; and if ihere
fbould be no l< gal Ren)e>iy, if tbe Criminal fliould be too high
or too cunning for our JuHges to re>ch biin» the Parliamcat
mny come in Aid, 'ind will always be able to give the injured
Subj.A a ("ufb ient Redreli. agaialt the bighelt or moft cun-
Ding Oppreflbr.
* For thi^ Rcafon. Sir, I cannot think there ib any Xhn>
gff that the Conltables, who »n to execute the Powers pro-
p' led to be eltaiililtxd by this Claufc, will ever make a bad
U'c cfttiem or fearch any Hoijfe without fome reafonable
$.ilpicion of Seumcn being kept concealed in it; batific
fliould be thought, that an unlimited Power in this rcfpcA ii
too great to be )nHE>ed either in the juAicei of the Peace, or
in their Under-OIHcers t.c Conl1ab'e<, you may rcflrain their
Power by an Amendment to the Claufr : You may amend ft
fit as that neither the JuHices nor the Conllables can (earch
any Houle without an Affidavit, that fomeabfcondingScunett
arc fuppufeJ to be conceikd in the Houfe. Thit, I think.
wi!l obviate nil thi Objefltons tliat have been made to the
Clauie, as it now ll :nds ; and the eliablilhing of lucb s Law
may very probably piu an End, in a fljort Time, both to Pref-
fing ^nd Searching ; for, if it were once made impoflible tor
Seamen to nvoid beii'g prefled by ablconding, and fuch a Re-
ward was o&red as is by this Bill propoled,to all fuch at
fhou d enter thenifdves vuluntariiy into his Majelly^s Service,
everySeamani-tthcKing^mwould,uponthcfirIt Proclamation,
voluntarily offer bimlclt, in order to be tautlcd to the Re-
ward,
f 40? )
wnd, if he were «ccrptcd of, or [oa Prarr^ion \f he were
■ft By ehtt Mtaoj our Govctnment would >ilw.>y» have
tvntj arid Lhoice nrScimen 21 i(» Command, which wou'd
puao End (0 Pitfling aj wr|l as &carchiiigt and the Com-
aiAoner» of our A^imiralty would then hive it in thf ir
F«WfT to givr cvtty Seanxn Hi* Turn of Service in the \ •
Tf-, They nould then have no Occdfion ui (arcr *ny \\»n
euCofhtt I'urfa, Dor lodcfire him to continue longer jn tiiC
P^avjr ibao hi* farni and tonlcquenily they could acre r be
wulcr a NecelHty to \ittU Seamen mi of a Merchant Ship
fcoatcward-bouiid from a long Voygc, ror toturn a Crew
o»er from one Man of War to mo'her.
* 1 am therefore, $it, fujiprized 10 hear it f«id. thai tbi'a
Law would brinj^ our Seatnen iiao any Son of Suvcty, or
a^AcT the teall Inconirenienre; for, l^fCJ OpimoAi it would
luvc a qurc contrary Effvd : It would leheyj: thcnt from all
lJ-« HArdfhips rhey now l.b'.ur under, by m'kmf it unne-
^<«ff»ry for our Goremmen. lo force any ol ihcm mio hi>
Ity'i Service, or to keep them tneie. cut of their lurnj
if wc (Kould, even in rime of Pe-xe, ketp in ^onilrual
hut halt IS many Seamen a\ we can probady hare uTis
for to TiiTif cf War, which, row wc hive fren the Inconve-
nience of I o: doicg (o, Will, I hupe, be refolvco on, when
Peace ii rcrtored, ne could then carry on any lueuic W.ir,
Without dnvting iucb a Number o S>'3mei< from n c Mer-
cktm'! Service as might any way crobarraf^ ou Trade; for I
fluH grifit.lhai a certain Nuirbcr o' Landmen, in I'ropor-
ciaa 'o the Number of Seamen, maybe iikea on l>uanl cveiy
Ship of War; bgl I 3m hr Irom thinking that the Pr. por*
Cion of landmen fhould be fo gfeac at two Thirdi. A tew
Landmen may, 'nt true, aiTtti in fighting iheShip; but fiurn
ail I could ever earn, and I have been cur-i>us in th t Pur-
ncuUr, an cxptit Scatoan i' bcicr even for figt.ti gth<.- Milp
tbjn the bell-trained landmen you can put 00 boa rU i and it
ia to thrg'eat Numbrr oi Seamen we uiuai y have on b«ui<d
otir Stii{>« ol War. tbat our Sb pi re lupcrior to )>ny forcigti
Shipt of the fame Rate Our Ncigtihour> gencr^illy put
0iore Men on board our Ships th^n we do. but a& moit of
ihtir Mrn are Landinen, -'nd molt ol ours arc Seimen, i*c
wtitki'ur Shtpi and nur^igeoui Gum mere dcxteiouHt than
Ihcy do, which alwiy. g vei \u ibe A vintage mm Ki g<>|>e.
menti ard iho' rbcir L-<RJmon -ire often trained Soldier t,
ytt a u generally fouo-J, we d'j more Exccuiioti even wntv
their (man Armi thin Ihev cm.
• I iherrf reJiope.Sir, wc IhaU alwayi hereafter put our-
fe'vci MA UiOr <\''Mj dinaty Expercc <« TimeofPaace, ra-
ther thaa £ivc U|> UA% Suoc 1 'rl'y wbiCb haa ofltfl bccit of
F I r z grcac
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great Benefit to us, and from uu.ch we have reaped fo axK
Glory; an>1 as wc had not dvnf fr> tjuring the laft PeKe»
and were therefore in great Want of Seamen ^t the Beginning
ofthc War. I mnU th.j k, it «■ ^ bi::ter lo dtllrefs our I n£
& liitie, rather than ixp- le our Sr.ipi to be taken, and oar
nava! Reputation to be loll, by putting too many Landmen
on board any at our Ship- of War, efpecially thofe Tent to ths
Wefl-Indies. The C-imate in th?t Country is known to be
fo obnoxious to our LandmeD, and our Ships are fo far diltanC
from any frclh Supply, tr.at we cou'd not venture to putiBf
Number o^' Landmen on board ; and it u to this cbie^
that we oug.'it to impute the prcfent greiit Scarcity of Su-
mer- , for m this Part of the Wcrld we have now above
20,000 Seamen in his M^jelly't Service, bcfiJes the great
Numbers that are gone thither to fervi- nn bo-trd Privateers.
We coiled not fit 'hebeginiing put any Proportion of Land-
m-n on tioa'd tni Ships defi^red for tliM SkTvice, and much
le<- can we do it now : and with rt^ga rd to the Ships 11 home
w.i.ch :'re now in CommifTiDn, 1 be'icve, wr mait conteic
oU'Ieives with h.nvirg one Third expert "^cmen on bcnrd
e^ch of thf-m.and muiL therefore jtrop^rtion our Seamen t>
mong th, m as well as wccan.
• This, Sir. is a Neccflity we are drove to, which, 1 malt
fy, ! uin <brrv for. becaufe 1 think it a d ing^rous Ncceffi'y 1
fur how (oon ut may be ob'iged to fend a gre t Number of
thelc Shipi> to Sea no one can tell. I do not pretend to be
let into any Si.cr(?ts of State, orr-ny of the fecret Intelligence
We ^:>ve from abroad ; but 1 may mke Notice of what 1 have
U ^e'y fecn in a News P;ipcr, wiiich fdid, that twelv- French
M en of War from Brclt were to join llie Spanifh Squadron
tiuw 6:rirtg out at Cadiz. If tuis Ik true, we muii imme-
dta:i;'y fend out a very powerful Squ dron, to ublerve the
Motions nf theft' united Squadion:., atid if our Squidroni
fliou'd ihirik it nectflUry to engige, I am afraid, our Ship*,
with two 'I birds Landmen that had never been at Sea before.
Would not make fuch a Figure in an Engigemcnt, as they
have formerly been uled to do: If our Squadron fhould be de-
feased, and feveral of our Ships lull, iholi: who are now com-
plaining of our not having taken Landmen on board, weald
then, perhaps, change their Note, and complain as hea\ily
of our ha ving tarnifhcd our Glory, loli our Ships, and cz-
poled the Nation to be inv.ided. by taking too many Land-
men on bo ard, and that we had done better to put a Stop to
our Trad for a Month or two, than to have expofeU our-
fcl ves to fuch Difgr3ce,fuch Lofs, and fuch Danger.
* The Gen tlemen who have the Honour of bcii.g at the
Jlead of our Admiralty arc, therefore, in the right. Sir, to
try
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Eyrfdintf tathtf than expoft OicmtelTct to foch
.• propofed thcjf cannot try
mrD. : 11 ttuii Auchiinry bc
1 .ivcailL0i a. titcx wiUioio^t bcjmtifinl^
ri betthittbcy Will. Whether this Ek-
>- ' Man cnn tell, beauie it ji im.
i._ I'Jcrs ol'SeaiDeu arc now lurking
ifid down (J)c (.ootxry. or what Nnnbers of able -bod ted
& •in«n arc now cmploycj in oar Couuag Trade.
tbc iormcr. wc have Kcatoo to brlirvc, tli«t there are
If V -•-< rrsrifiLcni, tvcauie no Merchant Ship never tt
men, i/ ihc cui but get a Prou^'on. Tt>of0
L_[itap« know wbcic the Scuncn xaif bc feni|«^
rhta the Mailer of a I'rading V'cQel mnuluc^ a Nan.
It (bey 'le ready bc i LaJl r fut their Cfimpi take
Ctzt BOi lo let the GDvcrnmeot or any Pt<(% Ging know
vbcjE iliey ^rc tobc met witn,
• Then, Sif.aitotbc Number of able bodied, expertSci.
i nc« now enp'Oycd in the Co; Ripg Pradt, ibo' I believe ft
L. ,jbJk muih greater tiuo the Horioufiible Gcntkraaa ieprc>
■t^^^ yrt, 1 >m cor.vincccl, it n coi near fo great ai afcat ia
^^^^K of Peace, not l>ccauic liieic are not mxny fuch Se4mea
^^^^B^ ' m, tnii bccjiufc oioli oflbole (ba! are fil
^H^Bi . . ' V ice. and ct>r>(equenily Irabte to bc pnSled,
int» rc^oMT Ur 6<.- employed at Se*. ftnd b>vc retired up imo
ckcConmry, where iixy live byl'ome EniploynKnt at La/ul,
0( apon the Credit ihey b::ve from their Crimpi or their old
,9At$cn, who know they nn rcimburfe thetmteives with good
lateral oat ol the 6tli Wagci the Scttua rcccivn, wbma
LApportanity olfcri, lar bit beinf^ rmptoycd at the pre-
W»gci io tbc Coafttitg J trade or Mcrchaat's iier>>
• for ttiefc Rczilbat, Sir. I betteve the Eipedient sow
-"-'"-' would have a very great Eflcfl, lowardj relieving
our ptclcnl Diilrelsj and at I canooi think the
^i.uiiic, with 'tie Ameadaicnt I hivc propofcd, could hire
liy bad L'ontci)ucncc, 1 iKiU Uierciote be lur its being paU
[led uuo • Lkw.*
Si k.
Wbeo I look round me, I tin furpn'iRl [0 Sod tbu Ktl
With fo inucll Oppoiition. 1 bclitvo ite are all irue<
lam EhgMhnicn. I fbou'd have faid true Briiuni, in thn
Houfei iii'i ihcicfcrc I bi-pe the B;llat lali Mtll Q.tct witb «
BONia) AppiubdUoni lor K there was a Kfenctiman or a
SiMJaid aiagngit m, 1 sua pcrfiuiied, he wouid bc againU
thfl
( 4o6 ) *
cbrBill. efpeci'lly the Clauic now andrr 0vr CoxfidentiM, '.'.
He would frighten us with S.'avery, unt I do nt^ kiiow»hit. ['\
in order to prevent our pgrecing to fuch a pcc^ (I ry lod ale. ,',
fti' Regulation. Thii, I nm perluaded. wou'd bethe Oie, "'
liad we any fuch Men am' nglt us; and thtof irieif i^ wKh
me a fufficieot Rcafon for agreeiog to what ii ptopoled.'
F.
Sit,
P ' I little fufpe^led thit theOppofers of this OaoieflioaU
be accufcd of being (•renchnitD or Spaniards. It is beciafe
lira neither a Fienci)in-*a or Spaniard, nor a pioNffedor
iecret Friend to cither, that 1 am >ig'<:ntt ibis d^uir. I an
a true-born Engliffaman, and as fnci- I bare » fincere Reg^id
for the Liberties <ind Propertits of my Countrymeo i t>etc-
fbre I mull be againii a Ctaufe which wiH reader ooih pre-
carious. I hope, 1 fhill always be agaiDil fuch Eipcdientf,
cveu tfao' I Ihould iherrby f crifice fome private ImercH or
View of my own. If we h^d a Frenchman or' Spaatard a-
Diongfl us, that underltood any thingof Trade no Naviga-.
tion, I am convinced, he would be a hearty Advoeair for
this Regulation : At 'ealt I Ihouid have a very b^d Opiatoo,
cither of his Judgment and Forcfight. or his Attacbmeni to
hit native Country, if he were not. If a Spaniard of (ood
Uoderftanding were amongit us, he wou'd certainly be for
the Claufe, becaafe it would force many of our Seamen tnTo
the ServiceotSpaio, IfvJardjnai Firury were a Meabcrof
this Houfe, I am fure he would be for it ; becaufe he would
forefee, that, in a Oiort Timr, it wou^dgrefaib Country a Sa-
periority over us at Sea, by forcing moll of the Seamen we
now have into torcign Service, and preventing any EegliQi-
man's breeding himfe f to the Sea for the future. But, I nope,
the Cardinal has no Influence overany Member, fiir lefs over
a Majority of the Houfe, and therefore. I hope to fee the
Claufe rejeded with Difdaio.
* If we are under any Diftrefi, Sir, for want of Seamen,
we have brought it upon ourfelves. by not encoarAging
Landmen to enter into his Majeily^ Sea Service at the begin-
ning of the War, by rcfufing many that were offered, and by
raiiing Marching.Rcgimeots, under the fpecious Name of
Marines, before we had half manned our Navy. At the be*
ginning of the War we could not {q much as apprehend, that
either the Spaniards or the French woU'd in a Twelve-month's
Time be in a Condition to fac^ our Squiidrons any wfaere at
Sea; we might therefore have taken as many Landmen as
we pleafed on bonrd our Navy, at the Beginning of the War,
becaufe in a TwelvemonLVs 1 imc many of them would have
become
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BBiP rxprrt SMmrn, ina ■]! wou'd havebenvme fit fat
Mrr f Service i>i. board oiu Men of Wur. It ii a
tkc CO luppolc, '.lilt tbc Scj-Cliraace in the Welt-Ii<diea
:t\ obnox'uu* '0 uur [jndmtn. it ihey are luptin Aflioa
Ejccrctfc ; Bur Aocn our jh'pi arc kept loiCeiing in one
I, wiib InlirucUoai uot loaMcmpiaTy ihiogagairvit the
i« ii.ey wert ft> the H'll-merio'- t in ihui Cafe. 1
r«oi ili« Wrtt-lndiu) C imate won'd br obfKXiom, my
■ate wuuld be oi' oxiout. tu McD kcpi confined on tw^rJ
L(tp in <ucn « > id e, fpirii<erft ana rexat !»•■ S u lion i ind
Fould br obnuxtous to xur Seamen as «rcU if Landmen,
'wr found bj bi4 ExpcttCdCt in tbc Plci I have nta-
^lloocd. Bui ai ihc btgmning of ihu V^ar, 1 hope no Squa-
)t,ji^. M'C>c intcr<Jtd to nt ict.t to the V^eii-lndtei with 'Uch
m i thcTcfiire, il t gui Nanbcr of young, ngo-
1, ^Jiiicn tuti been tent out. I believe (bry would have
ipt rhcii Hcaitht as well ■■ our Scimcn hive done, and
^iift of ttiem wou'd h«\c been Milter of their BQfincf>, be*
Ircibrjr cuutd h^ve tut. Wilb an/ ibiog iik« Oppafition at
• Fofthh Reafon, Sir, ifwearenow ia inji Diflrersfor
ot SMm<.n. I mull impute it wholly 10 ih'- Wroag
:farrj mt took :it the b'gianiiig of ibe Wart but fuppofe
Cube port-/ owirg oour not having kept » greater Num-
bcTot Seamen in Pa> duiag Pcice. ^boare thcji that are to
blaaic for ihift want of turrfighi ^ 1 am (uipr zed to hear
liicJl a Comprint mentioned by the Advoc >tes (or this Mo-
twa : H*ve not ttary or rheir Fricpdi bad themodenir.g of
-CMpvblic F.xpencr fura'molt ihcie twenty Vears ? Did iJiey
^^I^K pCOpOle a NumlKf ot Sr^nen (or any ore Vc;tr, that
^^^^BMt ogtccil to by PariiimcM f Hnve not tbey been oflcQ
beamed or rnluc'Dg tlie Niimber or Seamen, m order tti
kecpep an urncccff'ry. dangerou*. afKl opprcffive Number
of Land Fotcis i The Train i:, ihcy bave all along Teemed
ro be ractc ^if-iiid ot (be People, thnn of the Peop'c*> foreign
£acinio ; »tni thercloredtcy negieflcd ^tad reduced that Bud/
kef Xlen.wbtch ii molt p'oper for deliend ng uiag^inll foreign
^nemrt, in order to keep up and incrcarc that Boiy ofMeRf
vh<b *it taoti prupct lot defending them agiiult the Pco-
pta.
* Thiit, Sir, let ui confider our prefeat Dillreri io what
Light we Will, we nioQ (er, that it Wat iniJrrly owing tetht
bm Conduflof ibofe.wbo in the Advouicftfor ihi<Clfture;
■Ml lAc wrong Ule they have maoe of the Power* they were
poflcflcd gf, <i. 1 ibinlc, no very good Argument for cntrufl-
Mig tbcm with mure. However, Sir, «» I am for pu(h>ng
tktt Wu wttb tiiC uimoft Vigour, I Ibould be for the Claulc
propofcd,
C 408 )
propufed, if T tliought it conld any way contribute toirardi
relieving us from the Diftrefj we are faid to be in ; b« ai I
think it would plunge us into ftrther and greater Difi-
cultiea, by driving into foreign Service many of our Seanwa
we now have amongfl us, and as I think it wou!d be ofthe
moft dangerous ConOjuence, both to the Liberty and Property
of every Man in the Kingdom, I moft thcreibre be agunt
it.'
Mr. Pulteney.
Sir,
Mr. Pultmeyi < I did not think to have rofeup fo foon in this Debate;
but I find you are like to perplex yonrfelvei with amending
ft Claufe that cannot be amended, and therefore I I'and tip
10 prevent, if I can, your giving yourfeiTei thii oDRCcefliry
Trouble. Sir, amend it what way you wiU» it wiil be a
Claufe, which no Englifiunan c>n agree to. I Aould aoc
look upon a Man as an EngliOiman, that would agree (o fub-
jeahimfelf to fuch a flavifh Power ; to have kis Hoafe rx.
pofed to a petty Conftable and a Prefs Gang stall Hour* of
the Night, is what no Gentleman that puti any Vala*- ei:her
upon his Liberty or his Property will fubmit to. I have the
Honour, Sir, to reprefent the County of Middlefex. where
there are many rich Freeholders ; there are Jufticci of Reace
too ; thefe have done me many ill Officer, and have atnmpc-
ed to do me many more ; for we know whofe Tooli moft of
them are. But I depend upon the Freeholder*, and whi e 2
preferve their £lleem. I lh<-ill defpife the Jullicei.
< Do Gentlemen thiak, Sir, that I wi,i expofe my owa
Houfe, or the Houfe of any Freeho'der in England, to be
broke open at the Pleafure of an infignificant Two-pniny
Jullicc of Pe;ce, prompted by his own Malice or Refent-
ment, or direfled by the revengeful Temper of a Mioifier .* A
Gentleman may have 500/. or lOooA in Bank Notes in his
Houfe ; thefe. Sir, have no Ear-Mark : The Gentleman
may not, pcrhsps, have uken the Number : if thefe Qioutd
be taken away, how could he recover them I He could
not, perhaps, prove that he had any fuch in his Houfe ; if be
could, whom could he fue } Would it be poffible to &x the
taking of them upon any one Man of the Party > But if this
coutd be done, would not a low Fellow of a Conftab e, or per-
haps one of the Prefs-Gang. make hit Efcape, as foon as he
had got PofTrflion of fucb a Sum of Money ? Thos, it wou d
be impoiTink for the Owner to recover his Property, or to
punifh ttie Man that had robbed htm. An Affidavitcould be
no Security sgainlt this Danger ; they that will ileal, «i^
fwcar: SuppoHng the Jullicc to be no Party in the rhievifh
k Coafpiracy,
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/, Wlich I am hr fiom reckcning impoPiliTe^'w
■Canfhkble, any c<-mmon Fcllrw who knew I iii.ti fneh
of Xtoiury in my Hoilte, might go brfore » Juitice nnd
ill >c I bad Stamen conccaleii m my Yloufe : Ths
wufl.bj' (hii Claufe, gnin(bi<i Warmnt t he i» nqui-
toijo: The CoQltittiic mult makethtScarchi and the
A£(iivit-Mtn comci along with him, u one of the I'nU'
' --- ; — r -f-i wheo 1 anii niofl ol' my Sctvanit arc pone
• i.bour, and vthilll the other ±»crvarti arc at-
ircoir^-o orin ihe Ooors o( every Creek and Corner to ihe
Coodablr. the A&iBvit-Maa may very probably find an Op
|»nttnit> r» btuk open my Scruiiorei and uke sway mf
'' rp, Sir. our Pfoperifes vvtre Tafe, or cwild b«
.nit (uch a Cbuic ni chit, would any Gcntlg.
Ui;u!/ luhmit 10 hare h;s Houlelearcbcd, and himrdf
^■d bi» family diHurbM, every Night for |wo or ihrec
Mootbi ittgccber r N'ct thiimighi bcthc Cjfc, ifaMlriillcr,
Om Tool of aMirillei, (h<ju'j conceive j Pique againll
)f»oting ihtm at any Elrfiiun. We know huw cafy
h'-.it'c.-* to 6nJ AffiJivit-iMen. and 00 Court in
g'vethc Gene cdiid ar^y Kedi^eli), beoulc th*
k rr> Niglii matic accordrng Co the expreh Di-
li ot an Aii o( Parliament. Even the Parliament ic-
g:ve him Redreft, if the Partiei conorroid in
« hood firoi by one .tnother: I fiy. Sir, tna
itfL'Ifcoutd give nn Redreli. without excrcifinff
:y PVjwetttluo 1 lluill ever wilh m IccCKCtCilta
M«ni in Cn){Und ; for nu Ma>i could iay, th*
. h^iJ liken a &lle Oath, when he fwore ha
i't (bCpcA, that Srxmen woutd be that Night
in I'tich a Hciulc ; nor couU liie Pailbtmcut puni/It
t«t the Conftible, fot dging whitt the L.w rcqui-
b'-iodo. In (hort. ^ir, thit CUul'e 1* 'u fiti! fr^ii^hc
»prrf&'in. and (odangeroui to (he LTberiv, the I'lo-
r.aiid rhct^irt ofrvcry Mul in Ergtand. not concerned
execuiive i'aitof tiur Guvernmetit, that I muA ihtok
itrtvcri cfn have a Faccy, that th-y and ibeir Kollc-
imJm S^ftt/trum art tu be the MiniAcrt and Magi-
fGlCHl Briuin.
bonMurdble CJntiltnati, Sir. who ergoed for thia
fCIarfr, ■»< he had tionc (or many otbcn of th'- lame Nature,
;iird to f^vouf ut with hii Auvice. to lapabde
L. Ind Fran, and entrull our hitaiAcri with aU
f<i«er>, at thty Ihall ctll necvlhry for coablmg ai 10
Vigour in out ^iiiunal Capacity. 1~bi». 5.r. i% di-
ttOiy tke Fable of tbs I'ok and the GecCe i but 1 iiopc we
<i eg
IbaU
(410)
AftU not beAich Gct(e, z% to take hii Advice. Let oarMini-
llers aim at no extraordinary and daageroas Powers, and. Ill
anfwer fur it, the People will entertun no Jealoufies ; but
when A MioiAcr ha>, during the whole Coartc of a long Ad-
niioitlratioQ, b«eii aiming at fucli Powers, and has obuioed
more than eFcr any Mini&er did, it is no Wonder tofeejei-
loufiei and Fears arifing among the People : It is rather to
be wondet'd at, that thofe Jealoufiesare not more violeBcand
more general than they are. We have of tate Years had
many dangerous penal Laws enaAed ; Laws which Ceen
calculated rather for opprefling the Innoceot, than paniihiBg
the Guilty. The lace Smuggling-AA is a moft terri^ Law
of this Nature. I travel often into a County well koownn
an honourable Gentleman near me; when I aim there, I often
walk about with a Gun upon mj Shoulder, and with two
or three Servants or CompanioDs armed ia the iiinie Man-
ner: Upon fuch Occalioni, I confefs, I am in fome Pain,
leU I lliould be taken up for a Smuggler ; I know I might
be taken up as fuch, by Authority ol the Law. becaufe I
happen to be travelling with Arms, and witfaio five Xlilcs of
the Sea Coaft, or of fome navigable River : Nay, I know I
might be condemned and tranfported as fuch, in Cafe one of
my Servant) Should happen, without my Knowledge, to have
a Parcel of Tea or l^ce in hit Pocket, which a Friod of hit
had dclired him to carry to a Neighbour in the CooBtrf.
• It is true, Sir, no bad Ufe has as yet been made of that
Law ; but when we are confidering whether or do a Goveni-
mcnt be arbitrary, we are not to enquire what they do, boC
what they may do ; fbr whatever they may do, they will doa
when ihey have neceJTary Occalion for it. The King of
France had an Army,and confcquently a Power to compel
his Parliament to regifter his Edids, long before he attempt-
ed it. The Parliament of Paris had formerly a Negative ia
the Pafliog of Laws, as well as we in this Houfe have t ibe/^
flill pretend to the Right, but now they dare not ezerctie it ;
and by Means of our Armies and our penal Laws, thisHlMfe
may foen be brought into the fame Circumftances : The
Chancellor of the Exchequer, the Attorney Geneial, or the
Secretary at- War, may bring us a Bill, ready cut and dry'd,
from his Majefty, and tell us, the Kingcommandf us top>&
it. This Hoofe, as it is compofed at prefent. would, I know,
difdain to obey any fucbCommandi but by oppreffiag onr
£!c£lions, by means of penal Laws, a Minifler may gafuck
a Houfe chofen, as would refufe nothing the Crowo coald
deftre, and in that Cafe, I'm a&aid, the Nation would find
but little Relief in the other Houfe. Sir, to aft with Vigour
ia our national Capacity, we have do Occafion to cntrufi our
Miniflrn
MiniAm wtT>i iry tttniordiiiary Powen. rr wirh a l^ulti-
ndc i>f penal Lam. The Nnion has oticr. idcd with Vi-
gour bcfor« tkefe Pnwvri were grxnttd ; !t tui never A^rd
with Vigour t'inc* ibt/ were graiiirtl ; nor un it, I believe,
wctaA «i[h Vigour till nwny cf them nrc repfalcd. New
■•d ninordifliry Powers, lod * Muliipl'CR}' of pecal Lawi,
render the People je^louf, uneafy,anddir<o(iieti(cd wi'.h their
Go»T;tiineKt i and whillt the People are fo, howrver vtgo<
rou/Iy our Minifters majr n&. in opprclGng riie People u
feomr, and preventing ihcir being able to do iheiflfclvcs Ju(-
Eke, i: wttl not be in their Power to aft with Vigour ubrotd,
t«f ■gainfl a foreign Enemy: Therrforc. the etittufitrg of
I'Cnr Miniflcn wHb ocw and exCTaordinjry Powen, inltoa of
ubiing ui, will reader it impo0ible fi>r ttt lo ad witli Vi-
lar ID our nitional C'apsciiy.
An honounblc Gcnileitian prophefied to Hi, Sir, thtc
fnffing thitCtaufe into a Law would prevent our Govern-
ttirnt'l being undcrany Nccriliiy, cither fo ptcU, or to I'rarcti
lor Sranrn i becmiTe, if our Seomrn Ibould fee, that ihey
coold Ti^t, by ablconding, avoid being prefTed into Lis Ms'
>'! Service, they wonid all come ard enter voluntary.
, U u not the liril yitac thai honourable Gentleman and
Frtmdt have appeared to be mti.iben in their Piopbc-
) t if ibey bad not, we Riocld h.ive been engaged in no fuch
ftt the prcfeoi; and, t believe, they never found them-
I more out in a Prnphecy, than they will £nd ibetnfelvcf
iJiij. Our psiTlng fhii Clmfe into a Law, I Ihatl grant,
ly put an end both to preflingand (earthing for Seamen i
bcnafic our Government will be ut>dcr no Neceffity fof'
■g To, bat l)rrjiife it will be in vain lor ihein (O do fo i for
m convif'Ccd. ttwoold'in a (hort Timr hunt every Seainan
kavc oiit of the Kingdom i and if we had no .Seamen left,
mo>dl% needlciVfof otir (Jovernment to (catch fortliem.
fcr would be impo^lcto preO. when there is no Man to
' prefftd.
• Our Seamen, Sir, arc alreadv expoled to greater [Iar4.
than car Lindmen arc : The latter are never prelM
the ^rmy, hut cajoleJ nnd bribed into the Service; the
are prrfftd'inio the Naify on every inflingOccafion.
lore, I may fay fo from our Condufi of Jate ; for
|;b we have of late bad many a hot Prefs for Seamen,
ire never been feat iipoo any Expedition, where they
lio Glory or RichcN, riihrr to ihcmrclvei or their
. If 10 tbeir former Hartlihipi wc add this now
Dfed,thGy niU all Inveut: for a Britiffa Siilor will al-
ba a welcoms Gucll to any Pother in P.urope. '* '*
Sir, 10 amend this Ctaufc fo, at to
It -11
G gi
tbcrcforcj
( 4J« )
therefore, do not let as be wire-drawn by Amendmenti iDto
thePaflingofa Claufe which, amend it Syou will, mu&dt-
firoy the very End for whicji it is fiid to be intended : It is
direAly the Cucumber : pare it, Hice it, fquecze ir, put what
Ingredients you will to it, yet Rill it will be fit for Qoihing
but being thrown out af Window.'
G.
Si R,
* A« lam derceoded of a Family that has never been dc'
£cient in their Duty to their Country, and has, upon former
Qccafions, taken Arms in Defence of its Libeaies and Privi-
leges, I (houid be forry if I degenerated fo much from i be
Virtue of my Anceftors, ai to approve of any Regutaiioalhil
might be of dangerous Conrcquence to the Libcrtiet of'my
Country ; but I am fo far from looking upon the Reguluion
now propofed in this Light, that, I think, not only cur Li-
berties but our Independency as a free Narion will be in the
Utmoll Danger, if It is not agreed to; for if our Goveromnt
is nof enabled todefend us againft foreign Attacks, we fltatl
certainly be conquered by the firll Nation thai is bold enougb
to invade u3.
• I have examined the CItufe, and attended to the Debate,
I hope, impuitially, aijd I muft confufs, I can (ee none of thole
d'.ngfrous Confequences that have been fuggclled by ihole
who h:ive fpoke againft the Claufe : Our Apprrherfioos
ought all, I think, to bf! upon the other Side of the Quef-
tion; for if wc do not expofe our Houfes to the Danger
of being fearched for abfcording Seamen by our own Magi-
thates and OlHcer;, they viil be expofed to the Danger of
being plundered by invading Spaniards or Frenchmen. We
may prefcribe Liniits to the lormer : We may puniOi them if
they exceed chofe Limits; but the latter we can neither li-
mit nor puniih ; and furely the Danger of being plundered
is of much greater Confcqucnce than the Danger of being
Icarched.
< i \vi(h Gentlemen would judge more candid'y of one in-
uther's Behaviour: lam afraid, Sir, there are Ibne-amongtl
us whu Judge from Envy and Heiemment. Such Paffions
will alwHys create Jealousies and Fcai^, and fuggelt Appre-
htnfioiis tor which there is not the Icall Foundation. We
ought to behave like Chritlians towards ore another i if we
did. wc (ho J Id never judge rathly of the Thoughts or AAioot
of other ,VJen ; but would behave with Itlecknefs. Humility,
and Fi-rbcarancp, which are foneceffary for the Prefervatioo
C'f-S'cictv, and Jor kecplcg up a friendly Intercourte among
Men. Ai 1 Ciall aiwiiv;i t!:.t:cavot,r :-j iuj!cw ihi£ Precept, 1
cannot
( 413 )
aaeol fftfpcA thofe whopropoied tbii Cliufe of any bid fn-
MWU}a. Bod it i{ (hculi) hticatur give Rife lo an^ lort of Op-
. picfion, it miy e»b\y be uncn^rd or rppcalrd ; therrfoie to
ic»e u.- from the prelent Ncctlfity. and to prerent thr like
i inic lu come, Koughi, I ihmk, to be jppiovcd of,*
H.
S I R.
' It U (omctbing furprifiog, that thii Nation (hould have
ieciftird lice ind iDdcpviikicnt for Co many Ages, ^nd ytt
ihsru <i now le m fucli D:ingcr of being conijucrrtl by France
ta SiMin* thi( we iiiut) enable our Minillcrt to conquer ui, in
lo prevent ouf beiog conquered by Foreigner!. Is not
$tr,«irr mariarii, m»ri> \i may prcferve, It may erea
the Indrpcndcncy of our \IiniUeri. bctaufe it will
tfccm indciHrndcnt of rtic People, which (hey ought
rtobe; but it will dcUroy tlie Libertici of the Peoplej
a« we fit here chicAy to prclerve rbe Librmes of the
Peaf-.Waitirnlt the EDcroachmenis and UiitrpattMii of Mini*
drrs, bu«r could weanfwcr it to our ConltitucDts f To mine
tl n>tt'<i my nothing, but only t^utt I bad made iiiyfcif u great
a 5l«vr aa I had nide ihcm : To tlirm, «nd 1 believe to
noil oiheri in England, it would be no b'^cufe to fay, that
if w« luut flcii done lo, u-c dwutd all have been conqunett by
Fiwce or'Spainj for wbaiever our Minillcrs and tfteir
Fricndi nay jxeicnd, 1 am fo/c. the People o/GieatBri-
aim urn uadcr no Apprehcndona of (heir being cuoqucrod
by cither ol (iM'ie two Power &.
• Every one kho\*s Sir, that the Freedom of our Coo-
lUtaUQn confidi pnitLipany in tbc Freedom of our Elc JlioQ» -.
i ftMJ ibc Kieedoni ol OUT Lle£liani contiUs in its not being in
the Powrrof a Miniller, or any great Mdn. lo hart an Eiec-
I -. OD Account of his irottng contrary to hii Otdcn Bt any
i «^bon. Would thi* be the Cale, if ihit CbuTc fhould b«
paficd ioio a Law ? Might not a ktiniller, or his Tooli tbc
(rticct of Pcicr. hjrralsa flubborn ElcUor out of hii Li.'c.
brat leali out of im B-ifinefi, by lenJingn ConRab^c and a
Prafi-Cirp every Ntght, or every other Nighr, (o Icarch
hi-' abfcooding Seamen f The Intcfpofition of-sit
Alii , uld no way mend the Matter! fur when there
lino Hanger of incurring ihc Pcnalfici of Pcrjory, ai there
CMid be (>one in ihii Cafe, an Aflfldavlt is ealily obtairt'd,
cfp«DiIly H'hen the ACdivn-Man is lurc of being prote^leil,
ii well ai rewirdcd by • Minifler of Sute. We know
wliat Vie hai be^R made of the Power of quarleriflg Sol-
(ben upon Publtc-houfoi wc know tbat Innkeepen, and
tna figrougJift, have fomctitDC* bcco oudc to fu^r by that
Meant,
H.1
Meut. for their baring difoblig^ mioMaiiil (Mm
IcAioBs: This, I am coavincod, hu becaJoui ilWf^
be dont, wiliiout any Puflibility of in being
caufe the AO. u kgil, the Crime coa5(li Uog\y m I
lion, which People may rnfpcfl, but unaol pron.
fcRrchtrg would be aitcDdol wtlh the raoie Ooe*
Miniitcra andtbrirTooli, andihe E,ffcfl viould bti
tta&vci btrciufe quartering or Soldien iscodia(dlft|
lic-hoolct ; but thi» i>f liauchiRgftjr Seaneai* Utel
cd [O &n Sortt i>f Hoafei, even to (bt KOuTn »f tlK
blcmen in the Kingdom.
■ For my P«rt. Sir, Qiould wre igrMiatbii
have Ao Nation that tbc othtr Houfe will : W«
pkafc, lay our own HoUfri open, aiall Havsof I
to petty Conilablei and Prcfs Gingi ; bac I
Lotdi will Uy tbeir Houlin open at fucb Tiinn.
Vifitationt. Tbey will leriainly exctpt tk« Hi
Pccn and Pcerclki : and ifth<! BiU fbogUberc
«-)tb fucb ta Exception, would you p<i(i it HitB k
theiefoie or Opinion, tbul if ihii Oaute fisndiHl
wilt ocntion the Lofs of the Whole i and at I
fitll Claur?, which enables ibr Gorcntmcnttajtivj
of ; /. to every Seaman that Hull volunraril)
Majilty't Service, I malt ihcrefure beagainllAl
1 think, wiU occalion the Lot* of the whole BitL
' Bat foppofe, Sir, 1 were afTured, tbtt tic
would be at complairaoitODur MiniBerTtMCoaBCial
to be, (be Claufe it in itfelf ol a Niiurc (6 dismal
CimlUtution, that I mnQ besgainfl it: It irvnl'
cenGvc Power to Jullicei of Pntcs anj tbeir Cm(
repugnant lo ibc Spirit of our t*w, and iatmi
nur Cnnttiiutiofl. Ogr Jullicti of the PcKii
lOo apt to favour the C>u{c of the Crown. lUkffl
of ibe SuljeA: Nay, many of therm ate boi
come ihe mere 1'ook of a M nitter, lod to iHk«
eke Power* thry are invefied with accnrditig V '■
lions. And fuppofe it were otberwifc) faflP*^*
aB inclined to bvcor the Subjf^, and EaeainVl
nrr of Opprtffioa f tnthisCah "ni ;
« Miniltcr iftclinci to opprcfi . . ..h liic
ptoptiUrd tbey cannot prcvtot it lt\cf iMiil plti
to the Prrfon that comes to ioform ; ?hrr ■nftr
grant their Warrant for (eirelilnjUkc
and iJtc Coi.Hab'c mull cxecvte Ihe '
were fjUy convinced of the F3Uh<- '
ibat it was (worn to with a DcbgD t ,
likttify tbe Malice ond Revenge lU a Mrnittcr, « ftxt
of ibc fnfottner him/eU.
(4X5)
I ftnn ndmlr, Sir. iha: the Govrmmect has a Right to
dr Service of cvtiv S«amaD, when the Safety of their Conn.
BY rcijaires thtir ServHK ; itid 1 know it k^f beeji the Prac-
tice (o pf*[iS"m<n upon fuch Occaijon* : VVhether the Pnte-
tec be cAablilhed bv Law, I flull not uke upon me ro de»
knnifir ; butfo f>r I may fay. that the Method of Frcfling
Mi^fac never TO be pradifed, except when the Natioo h in the
motL hnmincnt Danger. On ftich Occzfions itie Kmg bat, I'
know, a Inn of did;ilorial Power, ;ind tticrefore may prefl
Mca either for the Land or $n Service ; for I do not chiok
acre U by Law any real DifTrrencc bcweco ihe two; and
;"^rc I muft think it boih againil Law and ReatoD to
-;<r«nienon every trifling Occafion.ajhas been the Prac-
uzK ol late Years; for from the Year 1718 to the breaking
oa of the War, I do notthink there was erer any juD Occa-
ioB for a Ptcl«, and yet wc have had revera) within that Pe-
fio«l. Upon gteit Occ4fion) irdccJ, and when the public
Safety ■Wolately rcqgiies It, [he Government haa a Right to
thrServkc ufcvery Se;vnan in ihc Kingdom, til) his. Ma-
jetf'* Navy be fully fupplied I Jnd then I wtll allow, that
aSamui in the Kingdom, who sbfcondi, ii criminal i
irely we ate aoi to mkc aw:ty the Liberty of rhe Subject
W|ncral, for the Ltke of bringing ttteoi to their Duty/
Si«,
• Tbo' I cannot prereitd to no more than to refumeor
•■luge upon feme of rhc Argument) thit have already beta
fMfeucd in ihu Dcbjie; >ct. as i( is a Matttr ofl'uch
CoAlcqurnec, I ttiink it n>y Duty to give you my Scntinienn
m» ibc Sut^jefl ; attd as the Argt-menei for and agiitjft tbia
Cbafc nay be tanked under two fieadi, thofe thai relate (o
thrBmciiiiiliat noy arife ftom tis being paHcd tn:o a Ltw.
tad thoTc that relace to the Dangenand Inconvcnienciei wo
nay be cxiKtfcd toby tiur agreeing cr ditagrcong to ihii
Onte, I fh»ll begin with (he dti}. Sir. if there be uny Sea>
Bes ixmr lurking anv where In the BrinUi £>ominian?. and I
dunk it hat of all Sidci been admictcd there arefotr.r, ihii
Law will leTtuinly be of great Adv.miage lo oor Trade, be-
caste it will enable ourGovernmrnt ro fimlooiand prefithe
krldng Scimeo into the Service of the Navy, and conrc>
mertt'y wi>: leave a greni Notutter of Seamen to be employed
nthe \ferchanijS<'ivife The Navy, it iicemin, mult be
fitpplied, c\'cn tha' ftrnie Brattcbn of our Trade Hiould b*
Ooet ion whtic ; what can be morebfneiicial lo our Trade,
thaa that of taking lirtt ihofe Seanirn. who now refdl'e to
enter loto the Govcrcmcai'i or MercUaau Servict f
I rcmcia-
( 4i6 )
• I remember, Sir. two Ve.irs ago, when War wa» fo much
fought after, and (o violent!}- ii'fi'.ed on, by almoll all Ranks
ot People, no M.in prricndcd to have .my Apprcficntioniof
our Trade"! fuffiri'-g by (he War; Surt^y it wa; not then
imagined, that our I r.i<if; cauiJ be carried on in Time of War
with the lame E^K" and becuniv, as in Time of Pcice; for
our Trade niuft lufter by War, !« the War be coniiuited in
what Manner it will ; yet ever fince the War hai been de-
clared, every little Irtonvericnce oit Trade liesexpofeJ ro
has been let in the (Irorgtft Lislit, and clamoured .igainll in
the moll vio!i:nc Manner : and now, when a Methui is pro-
pofed for obvlitir.g mod of the Incunvenicncies our I'r^de
lies expofcd to, it is oppofed, and represented as a Step lo ar-
bitrary Power. Is thii candid. Sir ? Is it a fair way of trcii-
ing thole, who are entrulUd with the Condudl of our public
AfF:irs ?
' But 10 return to my Subjefl, Sir. I have Qiewn how
beneficial this Claufe may be (o our Trade ; and nexr, with re-
gard to our Seamen, would it not be a great Benefit to our Sea-
men in general, it all of them were obliged to take ihrir
Turn in the Navy, and no Man obliged to lerve there longer
than his Turn ? That this would be the Confequence of the
Law now propofed is, I think, app arert ; bccaule if the Go-
vernment hnd Choice of Seamen, ttiey would certainly chufe
thole able Seamen that hid bee.i longellat home, or longrft
out of the Gc-A'ernment's Service. Such a Law could be in*
» converient to none, but fuch a? refufe to take their Turn in
the Governnienc's Service, and ablcond in order to avoid
their beirg prcflVd intn that Service; and aithey are allowed
to be crimi*ial,the forcing them to their Duty caonot furcly
be reckoned an Jnconveriiencc 'o the Public.
* Lailly, Sir, with regard to the ProfecutioB of the War,
It would certainly be a great Advantage to us to have Plenty
and Choice of Seamen always ;it the Governoieai's Com-
mand. I cannot liiy that this would be, fo much ai I could
wifh, the EftHl of our pafling this Cuufe into a Law. be-
ouft: T do not ill it' k wc haix at prcfent a Slock of teamen in
the Kingtiom, efficient for aniwcring buth the Merchants
and the Government's Demand; hut we fliould ccriainif
have a greater Plenty of Seamen, if alt of them were withm
the Government's Reach, nnd obliged to enter inoneorotrcr
of thefe SLTvices, than when a third, a iourth, or any Part of
them arcabfconiling in Country P>ace'', wht.re I hey can be
of no Service eitl.tr to triifmr<'Ivc- or [heii Ciuntrv; and the
grei'ter Plenty of Seamen *^i' have, tiie more vigirouflv we
Uiatl be able to pulli the War, which m]\ of courle embe
us to put a more Jpeedy and liooourabk End to it than we
c:a
(At?)
fotberwife, Thi* will be snotiier Advantage to out
;beWe* lh»t I have ulreiidy taken Notice of. and
! a prcVAiIrng Argurm-nt witti evcrj* Mao that nillics
Ei> hi* L'otintr/. to approve of tKii Claufr.
N(Mr,S>r, with regard tothe Dangns that miy arift Troai
'if;ming ordilagrreingioihi^ Law: Ai tho(ewhicti ma/
from our rtjciling this Claufe have aiready bern (ct in
V«r]r full aji<i clear Light. I flulloal/ take Notice of a few
tf cho^ Inconvcnknctei which, tt h foggellrd, mij tnfe
the 1-aw propoTed. Upon this Head wc are toid, that
Power of breaking open People 'i Doon, by Night or bjf
ly, Will be 1 moll grievoui Inconvenience to private Meo,
ll Tower o^ the moA dargcrouiConrcqucnce to ourCoa-
tion. For God's fake. Sir, U chii the firtl Time that ever
:k a Power wu eflablifhed in thit Kingdom I Hare noc
Ccntl >blei already fuch a Toner in aaay Cafri, when
hare a proper Wnrnot from • Jullicc of the Peice ? Be-
the tale ot Felony, th^ y have tne Power to break open
>r* in Tearch of uncuilomed or prohibited Coodi, and in
C*fcof GooJf ourtcd off and concealed in defraad ofthc
lodlord for bii Rent. Was it ever known, wai it ever To
iDch as fompliioed of, th»t thii Power mt opp;«ffiveIy
nrihai it was turned towards ihr infljcocing of Elec-:
\! Thii a therefore a Danger that fron Experience >p-
to be chimerical i and I hope the Manning of his Ma-
_ J Kavy will be admitted to be of mote Coi)(c<}Uencc to
phblic thin the Recovery of any fuch Goodi.
We have beert likcwife told. Sit, 'Jiat the eflibiilhing of
a Law will be (uch ■ Grievance tu our Eieiraen ai wilt
fghtcn them all out of the Kingdom A% Co this. Sir, I
illready fhewn, thiC it will bva greAt Advantage to ill
iwhodo not ^ibfcond. and thofc, 1 hope, are iiic great-
Ibell Part ofourScatnen. Butevco a» lo Seamen that
cond. it could be no fgcb additional Grievance as woijlil
ihem into foreign Service ; for, with tig^rd to the Pref-
;ofSeaniea, I mutlreaily itiink, oor Liwiia iiulewhim-
A Seaman may be preHnl if found on board a Ship :
■the Ship mny be (earchrJ f^r him. He tjkewife may
irtObd It found in the Sircer», Highway*, or P:c!di : bat
he geti into a Hoare, and gcti a L^or fttut upon himlelf.
If look out ai the Wimlow and laugh at lite Prefi-
;i therefore to make our Law conbK wuh itf«lf, I
t, we ought to give a Power to lae CiviljOffictr to tank
Houle, and rrco to hteakcpcn Doort id L'afcofNon-
llttanre. 'l\n would not be lo great a Hardlbip upon ab-
ling Seamen at the Pcnalttei now irfiidul by Law upoq
indiAg WaGtrraea or Birgroieni for if tbcy do ntx ap-
H h h pur
( 4»8 )
jxar » Wattrmeai lUtl when callolM, in onier to be bulM .
tbe Service of the N»vy, they «re by Ijw fubjcOcJ tolms
ral PeBaltica, and ycrvvedo not end, that ihu Rci-j'ii
fbrttd incm abtwd, or any wiy lelTcoed t
From «11 which I murt canctude, Sir *'^'^■- >
leap gmi AdrantSEC) Trom this Ch
wiihoutb«tig expoled toiny Incoovcj..v,.v^ ^•
thcrefurr, 1 hope, it will be agr<eJ to.*
K.
Si r.
* I in furpriznl to find Gcntlrroen exprvft lb naci>
giiCDM, as lomr begin to Qiew in thii Detaie, * ^■'-
rntleman coam here witli a Refolation to gtv
Bpoa either SjUc ormr Quefiion that ^^.
hat heard whet may be fomfer or agiir..
in 1 Qoedion which In nearly concfrw u:t i
Couauy. 1 aaaot but be furpnaeJ at fceitig <■
pTtis an L'nWiDingncri to bear (he Aigaircfil full) tlLvUld. i
if they will not be at the Paint to let lu hear their £cintmaA ^
opon itaoy other way than by their Arc or N«y. "
to anecd pattrotly to thofe that wili i tor tho* th '■
fyllabtcs mty deicTmiRc ibe C^elttoD, I am :
ihcm ^Vlllevrr cobTinceaDy rrafontblrMaa n
* ) hiiTr not tkc \'it)iTy, Sir, lo Lnigisc. i^ vk
to fay will h»« grcai Weigh; with ;lie Majority :
fembiy ; but, in Duty to my ConllicucT.ti, I ihimk
obligeid to cle tny Rndnvourt, aad ai a Member
Moure. I hne a Right :o be heard. The QudUoaoo*'
fore ai ii not Gruply. Vr hctiicr we fhall a^roc to tth
Or no 1 it ij. Whether we IhiU agree (o pot ao F.bJ to •#
Conftuuiton, and make S'avM ofniiVIt'-i o«jr CofiiLl
and Pollerity ? Por thlj. in my Of ; be ibc
ConfrqurRce df our agreeing to th.; . ..., tia«»«verj
rfad. That our Libeitiei, nay and oar rrapertws tOO»
upon the Freedom of our Ele^lioDi, u a Nlucim
bctieve. no Man will conieA. A corrupt Parliameri Buy, '
a Time, fuppoit ftn cppitflrc aed wicked MiDifttT4 '
Parliament it but the Stteam, our EleJHotii For Pula
Iklen are the FotiBEain>H»d, anJaj loes ai they art
and nrtcorruptcd, the Stream willofcourfc ir&bc.awtl
lafl berome ai pure a> the Fountain from wbcMc
Bui ih)i Clsufe. Sir. feems to be coatmcd Cor peHfiaaiat i
Foontain itfctf. aad for rendering ait the tlaaioai m dm
tivagiom dependent opoo the Will ol every latere iliMte.
• Let lu coaflder. Sir, that the Freed«i8 of a Hia'i Vac
« uy EitOioQ aw/ be okcn awiy* not ooly by ux
4Uh Bribe fn reWy Monty or Buk Notei, but by ibeHopet
ofbeiDg rcTVAfded for hu Compliaocc, or the Pcau of beiog
Je to fj^r for fail Stubbornnefs i and if we conCder huw
a MidiAcr faai icaircady id bil Power to nuke ale of
^ one of theit Meibodt^ we Hull b« extftmHy cautious
*dfaakioguiy new Additioos lotbac Power. Thai ourMi-
liBcrk hive now ■ much greater Coninisnd of ready Mooey,
'un tbcy formerly ufed to have, can be denied by no Man.
rio cor-djcn tbc late iDcreafe of tbe Civil l.itl Revenue, the
great Scm* of late Year* aUow'd even in I'itne of Peace, ior
Secrct*Serv ice- Money, aod the Saviogt that may be nude out
of tbc rattSams now granted for ilie current Service. J be-
lieve, Sn, it will be a Jiitlc coatcUcd, that our Minifteri
bare now a much greater Number of lucrative Polb and Em-
ploynxnti at their Difpofal than toy fore>gD MiniAert ever
ud is tbit Kingdom. 7*heitf, Sir, arc a two-edged Sword ia
tbe HancU of a Mmiller ; they letvc not onljr for culitvai-
tnE ihe Hopes of the Compliant, but for iocreafing the Fear*
of the StubDorn at rjcftioni ; and by our Jate Pia6icc they
uc Sow bcciimc more ukful in boih ibefe rcfpe^, (h.in
ever they were before, h it cow become a general and an
cftiblifbcd O^ r.ion, that no Man ii to expect, or to bold any
Poft or EmpluymcDt in the Government, unlelt be, and aj
Iboie over whom he hat any Influcncr, tnke Care to va:c at
«?try Etcfl ion according to the Direfltons of the Miniiler.
Wbat an Fflcd thtt m\M have at all Lle^ionf, Gentlemeo
Biyeaiiry iitPBgloe: If an EtcAor has any thing mcrcrnary
in bit Temper, he will certainly votcaccording to Cuurt-Di.
rcAiora at every likilion, in hopes that he, his Son, his
Brother, or Tome near Relation, may get a Poll, or a Pccfer-
tniDt, mthe Service of [he Government ; and it Ii a great
HardCiip upon honcll ^fen, 1 mean thofc who vote upon all
OccaGoDi accotdir.g loCoiitrience. tobnd rheisfelvn exclud-
ed from all the BcncAti thai ^tro to be reaped by ferving tbctr
Country m a public Capacity. Whether it is fo or not, I
ft .11 rot prciciid to fay; bm 1 amfure it it g^neralty 'bought
itiai no M.tn ii now deemed c^tp^blc to icrvc bi^ CouDiry,
untefi hebe ready, upon all Occanont. to fatti£cc tbe Libci tics
of hia Councr>- to the DitV»i« of tbofe, who have the Difpo-
(i\ of oar public Employmefitti and thii of itfelf would in
mVi Countnei be lufHcicni for eflablifhiog arbitrary Power.
* Bui, Sir. toibc Honnui of my Country, I mult obftrve,
that here it ha> been found othcrwife. Our Peoplebave m
ihclr Temper fuch a laudiblc Stubborncfi. and fuch a Love
of independency, that in moll PLicti, efptciilly in our Coun-
tiej, a Majority of them cannot be inflticnctrd, cither by pre-
Icai Rcwanlior fu-.urc Mopci, to give up ihcii Indc^ieiiJcncy
a b b a u
( 420 )
•t E!cAioBi. If thcf OB but live utd fortMr iWr
ink prime way. they cbmc to forego tKc HsmiJ
vantage offenriag ibetr Coun;r>- In & paSlk
ther than vote accortJicg to a Minidcr'i C^cftM* tti
Wlion ) and fbrtJiii Kearoa dtvrn Mrthodifai*il
iriv'd, and fevrral Schemes Utd, for nuking it
at IcaA very troublcronsr, for a Mjn to 1i«e tod
BjIiqcU in • private \V«y, anrcfs be fobmiU toTOttI
Coori-Candidaie at every Bte^tton Thit. Sir, bii,j
cofU'tnced, beco, with forae Gent'cmm, cKe <bief
prumoting fevcTAl of thofe pcoil Lawi, thit ire ttam
iDg i and this teaili me to i-onljder the third Method I
awing EleSiofli, by {ubjc^mg rhe FJ kiSon totbc fctll
iering by their Snibborncfi. In ■ Country whtf* th
s Multitude of prn&l Lawn, ind elpcciaUy wtica ihdej
nocooly punlfh butcmte Cnmet, Ini> nbci
te£lioa agaitiQ ihe Ma ic«or Revenge . <t)Bi
trailed with the cxtxuttve Pjinof the Gjic-'tioiK-
nty, witboai knowing it, bcgailiy ola BreacLof I
cate lawi [ and even when he it guilcy uf no B'CJCk»1
be plagued and haralTcd out of hn Life, or ^t lr»jl i
BoTiae^, by tbe Government'* 0£cei»: fn (tei
flancei. he muA not only h< a vtrj ImocA, bti:<
u\ii refoLte Man. who will dure to vote it aby
irjry lo thofe Menaces th^r are whifpetd to bica
TooUc^'a MiniKcr; and if we connder wbtt fit
EUAori are already brought into foch Cirevnflaacsi
tnuty pcaat Lawi lately enaded« we (hall hAw moia]
to wonder ai any E^rfl'on'i being ani&l igaml a
tereD, than at the Miniller'i having the Dirtd>o« of i
the EicAiotts in the Kingdom.
* When our Libertio arc in Co grtat Danger i wkca '
i; fo mueh Reafon to apprehend tbe Prevalence of a
fluencT upon every Etcdlcon in the Kivvdom. OuJ] »fl
Law, which v^iU enable a Minillcr lo ciillrefi every
the Kingdom, that thall due todifobey hii Onlcn «
Icdion F 1 by. Sir, every Man m the Kin(4o« . t^i
Law Will enable a Mimlter to diflreft not cwlv our .
but every Man in the Kingt^om, ihai ba> a Houfc
Head. Ai lor our Seamen, they muil certainlv be
SI*VMto the Will of every future MiniUer.
chetf Kink or Coodiiiott be wh»t tt w<U. ; J
to be prcHcd into bn Mijrllv'i Service, and >j;>;i£ru
before :he Mafl. The PfcirniR cf Seamen inio Aw
Servce is,*iu true, an antient PnHiee, and a Pri
of late Yean hai been too ufien ma*fe oCc of t bai h i
w^nuiicd by 00 exprc&Suuuc: It llaod» Umt^y
( 421 )
foociaE of Common Law and FrerontJve. tbcrefore tlii»
tomtr muA ilwa^ibe cxncircd » cbc Peril of the MiniUerf
ud if it ihouUl be cxcrcilcd unncceflan!)', or ia a more op-
(nfivv Manner than i* (v«ceilary, ic would be a Mifdemea.>
•or, for %^-bich the Advitcti might be profccutcd &nd puaifli-
•d m Parliamcm. Thus, Sir« the law llsnds at prefcot ;
bM bv toi» Claufc tbe Practice of PrcAng is to be aothorircd
\ ^prcii StMUte, \Oii that without any LitnitatioDas to
luty or Time of PrcHing, or as to the Scacnea or Set-
tui&{ \Ira that are tu be prefled-
* Sc4aKii or Seaf^iring Men, Sir, are fucb geDCral Wordi,
iJtat tUcy may comprehend a great many Geotlenieo, who
•TTct crcAinl ot ihvit bciug Seamen. When a Geotleman
n nroured wilb bis P^llige on board any of bis MajeAy'i
^ttif» cT VVar, I havebccn [oid. it is ufual loput hit Name
BpoQ tW Ship'! Bookt, a» i Siaman on board lliat Ship, and
wmM oac o' ibc Oi&cer: on board is allowed the Advaniaee
«( rccciviitgbii Pay : If [his Cliule niiuild be pfTcd into s
Law. every (uch 'Jentlcinan might be prefTcd into the Ser-
T<ei zed if be ih:;u!d deny hii being a ScaiDan, the Book*
of :±>ai i>bip would be productd, a& an tncontcOable Proofs
\ubttag I Seaman. Befidei, Sir, there are many real Sca-
wbo ought not to be pielTed ai comtnon Seamen ;
imutdei*. and fcvcraJ other Officers belonging to Mer-
'tluH-Sbip. ought not to be preHied into bis NUjcdy's Ser*
vice «j comoion Ijc^men, In like Manner, when a Mao hu
left tht 5c^ Scivice, and is ieuled in fome good BudrMt at
Lud, he ought not to be prelled into his Majctty't Sea-Ser-
vtn i bot iJ thil Claule be agreed to, we are to authortCe
Pitfing Witbont ar>y ReQriflion or Limitation ; fothltnot
>ealy Seamen ina£laal!tctvtce,but every Mao tba^ had been at
Sea. Or ift ioy Buritscfs upon the Water, will be Iiible to be
prtfid at common Seamen, and conrc<}ueniIy, will be Aibjctl
i» ifct% fori ol Court -influence, which ptoccr>ii fiom the Fear
ot being m^de to fufler lor any fort of Difobediencc to the
WiU or a MiotUcr i and cati we expert, that fuch Men wiU
Ton freely at any £!c£lioa, where there is an Oppofiooa to
lU Coon Candidate ?
' fiui thit. Sir, 1} not all : Such a l^w at tbi; will have a
mafifaul EtkSt upon the Ftccdoin of our ElrAton.not ont/
*'ah rcgaid toail (uvb as sreo' have ever been at »ea, or in
ley BuBT^Ii opoa ibr Water, but with regard lo i-v-ry oibrr
U4Bia the Kingdom, that bappeni to be ii Houfe k-rper.
Q^ittt and Scctiiiiy at home ii an Adk'tntifr . »-. , .. every
Ua BoA dcfire, and conkqutmly, being J. I .tiiwel*
coqkCucA*. or at uofcafunablc Houti, \» l, m hicb
<*»> Man iiiultdiead. 6/ tUisLawyou ate^o put it m tbe
( 421 )
Powes of a Minifler to diAarb iny Houfe-keeper in tlic '
Kingdom at often, and at fach Hoan, » he thinlcsfit ; ind '
conlequentiy every Houfe-keeper in the Kingdom mnft be '
under aconiinual Terror ofdoingany Thing thai may pro> '
voke the Minilter to make nfe of ihii Power againfi him. -
The interpofiiion of an loformation npon Oath will be no Rf>
ftraint upon this Power ; becaufe MiniAcn are generaHy well
]>rovided with Informers of all Kind*, and the more wickol
and oppreffive a MiniRer ia, the more of this Vermin he al-
ways has about him, and the more profligate ihey are. In
my Opinion, it will be ia far from diminiOiing, that it will
inrreafe the Danger of thisCtaufe ; becaufe JuAices are lobe
not only empowered, but required to grant their Warrant,
and Conllabies are obliged to execDte the Warrant of the jaf-
tices. If you leave it at it llandaat prefenti the Execmjon of
the Law muil be regulated, or at leaft it ought, I think, to be
jegulated by the prefent PraAice in the Cafe of \*3grants.
"When the Juflicei grant their Warrant for a general Search
after Vagrants, and other idle and diforderly Perfoni, ihe
Conllabies are not to fearch every Houfe in the Difirid i they
: n; to fearch no where but in Nigbt-Houfes, or Honles of
ill Repute ; and if they fliould dilturb Houfea of good Cha-
raAer, by virtue of fuch a Warrant, they might be profecated,
and would be puniflied ; and therefore, as this Z^w now
ftands, the Conltables could, in my Opinion, iearch no whers
but in Houfes reputed to be Harbourers of abfconding Sea-
men. This, I fay, i) my Opinion; butif ibe Claufe Aiould
be palTed into a X^aw, I fttall not fay, that my Opinion would
be afked or followed, and therefore I do not think weflionU
agree to a Law, which, by too extenfive an Interpretation,
might be made of the moll dangerous Confequence, both to
the Liberties of cur Country, and to the Property of crcr^
Subjeft.
• But. Sir, if you make the Amendment propofed ; if you
require me Jullicc togrant his Warramupon theOathofany
informer, you will in.-ikcthc evil Conlcquences of this Law
certain and unavoidable. I'hc Juliicc mult then grant hii
Warr.int, and theHoufe mail be Icarch'J, let the LharaAer
of the IIouls be never (b good, he the Charader of the In-
formtr be never fo bad. yhis, Sir, is more than is done
tyeik in the Cafe of Felony : a Jullice is empowered to gnn
his W;irrant to fearch a Houle upon Information on Oni,
that tlicicisCiufc tofufpefl Itoien Goods being concealed in
tliat Houic ; but he is not /inquired fo to do : lie may and
pught to rcfuie granting his Warrant, if the Informer be a
miMii Pfrfrtn, or or.e ofa bad Char.ifter i and if, upon fearch-
ing, no luch G>}ods befouid, the Informer would be mat^E
( 4*3)
rtnbie for all >Datnagei fuBataed bj fach
t Inflkv bimfcH nould be matJe anfwcrable, if it ihouldap-
r. that he h*d gninted his Warrant upon ttw lofoima-
,OJ lo infutBcicni Prrfon.
I thcrtJorc wifh, Sir, tbxi the Honourable Genclemta
fnioycd in UrawiDg up tbU Bill, had confidered a liiilc bcc<
m Okt CoDUJEution and the I^w^ if their Counlry i for from
bftBili. « it lUnd* at prelent, the People without JDcors wiil
WxpCHi imtgiiie, tbey bare very little Regard to the Liber-
tti, tbe r.'urcrtic], or theEafe of (heSubjcA, poviclcd thcjf
oobc' ihePowrrand InflDcnccof theCrown. From
wkoi i -- - -.,i-'. it will, I think, appear, that if we are to au-
tbonfe Ht(&ng by an exprcf* Suiaie, we Ihould take Care to
' h imder feveral Rcliniai*. It ought never to be ailowed,
:ia Cafei of the moft extreme NcccfCty, and when wcour*
or fome of cur bcA AlHei, are in the moll imminent
of being invaiicdi for, noiwithlUnding cheLowDcfsof
i^asri ia bi» Majelly*tSer\-ke, a common Seaman ba^ (o
Advastagcs in that Service above what be has in the
iaC> Service, thai, if proper Care be taken to ufc tben
], V^lwn they are on boird Qur Ships of W'ar, and not allow
iOflkicr« to opprefi them, or cheat them of what n their
Datt «n Covcrnment can never be at a Lofs for Seanea up>
sa My ovdinary Occa£oa ; and when it huTimeta CeflSea-
Oftcsr* about, in the lame manner is Land Officers zie row
with Money in their Pockeu to beat up for VoIuo<
la paAng fuch n Law, Sir, we {hould iikewirc uke Care,
till th«ewbo arc in any fuperior Station in the Mcrcb-ints
bcnrkiT, flttl) not be rrrlTed aitcomtDOQScaaicn into hitMa*
lei/'afi^tfTicr ; and itpt thole Seamen who have UftoA the
Sn>Scrvice. and are (cttlcd in fome good Bufioeft at Liad,
tbaU aoc be pieJCtd into bit \fajrSy'i Service at Sea; far if
•eeftablilkl'i'eiringby I^w, without fucb RetlriOioni,it will
oar very Breed of Seamen, by prcvenbngany Man'»
kg binifelf loihcSeafbrlhc future, and by driving nioft
Seamen we cow have into foreign Service : for iho*
kaow that in other Countries they mull be ■> muck
Sims* *> ibcy arc in their ovio, they will nevcrthelcfi hive
l^ Confotl, that in fuck Countriei they are upon au eqiui
FevtMf vkh thcredortbe Peoplei whereas in this Country.
if «« ctibliih Prefling by Sutute, without proper Rcnridioni,
niry SeaouB, lei bit future Fortune be never foconitdenUe,
■■Abe a Slave tu oar Minillen, and whilQ we have any
Lteny le^ wbicb, itmafrud.wiMid not beJoog, ike^ will
•ilk Regret look upo& tbiniieivffi u the only SUrts lo the
Biti
cai 'I'Bii, iifty,wui iMtta uoror
aocgoand erter into the Gofrrnmrnt'i
Vttis begins : for it the C'liufe h word
he ciD otbenvife with anj' Certainty an
bcingan nbkondrngSesraan. Wotildf)'
ble Hirdfhip upon oar S«anira in grnenl
mnny Ofc*. be cruel aixJ tnhuroan * Wi
punilh a Mother for conce^bling a FaTiiaf
|er for concealing her Knher? I (hal| ~
ai we bare any Seamen in the. Km
perly be called, an AH for the fpeeJier
jcltvVFIrct, beoufe it wouU make it ati
SmK to lira for two Days aftrr a I
Fanofbis MajrO^'^Domiaion), without
board hitM^jeA/i Ftrr; ; but how aa A^
men, and all their FticDdmnd RrUiioni,
HaTtllTiips can be calleH an Afl tor the
Ittcrcsfe of Seamen, it what I cannot com
' ' In all Confl'tutroRi and KcguUtKmio
ara, there mull be fome I oconven tracts
titeccrt that proceed fn^re KepublkaA
ment are generalljr made Ui> of by
Men, for inirodocing fuch Alterations
Lationa, as make way far arbitrar)- Powvr.
get into the Ciuvernmeni of a Comnoil
Caie (o tncrcale every iDCoavca
Fences of Liberty, iQ oider to iM
able Powers 'l.'!io\t of vrak V
(425)
n nr.-Z Liwt of tK* mofl rfangcrou* Confcqucrce to Libcr-
■■■ I 'fthe Iiie famous Excil'e Schrmehad fiicceeded. our
hud been uiktIj' undone: beuufc ii would have
t^ «...<(, I iliink, will be [he Cnnfequence of the Scheme
''■iwlrr our Ccinfideraticn : It wm'd have madt-our Mi-
yM»ticn oi cvcty popular Eleilion in the Kingdom.
ol Itwetmg our buMc-^rand correfting the Nfgltfis
tier af ou''C'ul1am Houir and Kxcilc Officers, which
I'd hare been ihr piojirr, ap.d I beiwvc an eficflual Me-
*^r p'< venting Smuggling, almofl every Sefiiun hai pro-
fotne netv Sciifme fur iivcrtaling the roU'cr& ofthofe
I) and I nm afraiil, their Keglcfl^ and Abufes have
brro copnived at, in ojdcr lo increal'e ih« Irconvcmcnces we
ftx) from Stnuggtiitfi;. thit ifaofc li)Conir«tiirncict m>g)it af-
onrird' be made a Preteocc fjr velliDg forac new dangerous
TawTf in our (^nrerncfienr.
• Upon thn S'i)>j<-fl, 5'r. I cannot !c( pift unobfcrvtd the
hae fttnout tjin AA. By theclliiMKhed Latvi oFthe Lmtlj
: that Acl V3i itafTrd or thoughr of, no ^erfoa could fell
A'c, nrfpirriunui l.iqiiort by'Retjl), withnut i Licence
ibr juiHceiof Peace; The Jullires hid a Power to rt-
lfi(ing (tic.r Lkencr. or to ncil p[ when i bey {ilejfed i
ifijr oiie foil fuch Liijuors wi(liotit a IJcencon he was
'taw made lub.e tft fcvert Penitiie*. B«fid« this, (here
(f^ (evere Laws »eainll x'l fuch ss al'owed DrunkonDefi
X^plirg in their lioufeii and mor«o»er, there were (eve•
'- Gtn Ihopithat tnighl. I bflieve, haveSrcnindifltii
'C Nufance. Bv a Nrg'efl of all th^fr Re^i.edies,
■ ■• Oruntc-nftcfs in Gtn-{hopi arid AIe-houre> Cime
Height, and wits grner?.!']' complained of, and
.^,,i.>i by oar Gnrd InqocU withoiif any Reircfj,
orjufticti of Pence, who >rc eniirt'y under the
ir.TTt-i'i'n ei our Mifiilttri, wou'il not put the Lftw» io Exe-
o»f>cn -jiinH thefc Erormitie*. At liiH, *hen the People
mri' ' " ::pto a rtifScien R:.ge ig«Inft thefc £■ oanitiei,
«rE 1^ n.u [he Liwi id being were not rulHricnt foe
prcircT':.rg :ticm( and the* every one that underRood tbc
Jjw kncMrihe cofitnft, wc Were prevailed en to agree 10 a
Uff. by which a rery great Addition ivat fflidc to the
fljft Revenue, tivd tvvrv Virtt-er. lriBl:e:p«f, Ale-
V, ar.d riaor.y fhop ta
■ lOi Off m'»nce Hpoo
to t
«r, V.tl
irrr. ^n: ■,
■iWr
ce ap-
-at In*
cm it*
parcfit, J>tr, to e»ery ofc-wi^o f
cnrtfe ol :h« L'i«il.Lift-Reveim-, I
Bhuc qJ' the Dulin Bpod tpiriluoQi L'-l^ooii, wu owing t*
ill ih*
( 4^6 )
the Enormities complained of. which were, perhaps, for that
very Rcafon indulged ; and for the fame Reafon perhaps ic
was pretended, thai no Stop could be puc to them by the
I^ws in being, becaufe if a Stop had .been put to them that
way» the Increafe which hadarofe to the Civil-Ull Revenue,
by indulging thofe Enormities, would have been annihilated,
without any Recompence from the Aggregate Fund. And if
we confider the Neceflity every Keeper of a Pubtic-HouJe
lies under, for felling fpirituous Liquors in fcnall Quanticies
to his Cuftomers, the high Penalties he is by that Ad Cob-
jefied to, if he does fo, and the Power given to the Com*
jniHioners of Excife and Julticcs of the Peace, to mitigate
thofe Penalties, we may fee, that the Keeper ot eyery Public-
Houfe mull be under a flaviJti DepCDdeoce upon our Com>
miflioners of Excife and Jultices of the Peace; and confe-
qaently that he muft expcA to be ruined, Ihould he give hiv
Vote againft a Court-Candidateat any Ele£lian.
• Thus we may fee. Sir, that, from all the IncoBvcnicDces
diat arofe either from a Deiiciency in our Laws, or from a
Neglefl in the Execution of them, an Advantage u taken for
introducing fome new Regulation by which the Power and
Influence of the Crown may be increafed. This has fo coa-
itantly in all Ages been the PraAice of our Mini0en, that
one may from thence conclude, that every Man. as fooD »
he becomes a MiniAer, or as he calls himfelf a Servant of the
Crown, begins to think himfelf in Duty bound to ufe every
Art he can think of for dellroying the LJberciet of the Sub-
jeA. This, I fay, feems to have been the way of thinking
among Minitlers in all Ages, and, I am fure, in no Age
more apparently than in this. Shall we then, upon this or
any other OccaCoo, throw afide our fealoufies and Fears 7
Shall we put a Trufl in thofe, who by their Praflices havs
given us To good Reafon to be convinced of their having a
Deftgn to betray us ? Jf we are under any prefent lacoovc-
niences, if we are under any prefent Difficuitiet, with re-
gard to the Manning of our Fleet, let us examine whether
they proceed from the NegleA or Mifconduft of thofe cod-
cerned in the executive Part of our Government, or from any
real Deftfl in our Conftitution. If from the former, let si
remove ihofe who have run us into fuch Difiiculties; and if
from the latter, let us confider our Conlliiution, and apply
thofe Remeilics which are moft confiAent with its Security
kr.d Prelerratiun ; but do not let us plunge into the Pit which
our Eaemics liave dug for us on one h^nd, for Fear of tumb-
line over the imaginary Precipice which they frig-iieo ai
Willi on the other.
lam
(427)
/ I sm br from thlnkiog, we can be under any Di'Sical^
in mftnaingH'l the SItipi wr can }i:iveO:ciiGon forinihcpre-
{t%t W'ai i bui I'uppotc wc were, ihcre arc mitay oihei Re-
BBcdici tit&iJcs thai now ptopofed. Let us give fanhcr Kn-
CBuragKmcnti [or forriga Smmen to enter into otir Servkc:
^^ uicaMnpoftour Alliancei for Aflilljnce : Let us hiie the
^ of other Nition*. We bivc now foreign Troops in
Pay, ihti' we have no War, nor are like to have any
T^oponihcCoDltr.ent Why Jo we rot hire foreign Ships
"*" of foreign Troops? If we are uniicr the Dificuttics
tl. nc h;ve OccAAon for the former, but we can have
c*fion for the latter. Surely t)ii* Nation is not yet re-
dDwd to fuch mcUncholy CircuniUanccs, that we niutl either
have no Aliies, or accept of thern upon fuch Term* at they
(I tfcefofelves may be ptMCcd to prefcribe. The Remedy now
wider our Confidention is the very worft that couM be
^oaght of: It it publiftiing oor Dlflrefs to the World, and
StTJ»g oor Ericmiei jiitl Caufc to tiiumph over us. (f the
rreoch orSpaniardi owed us a Gradgc, they could in noway
fe dhAoalEr puoilh ui. II by forcing us to drflroy our Con*
tftadon at>d give up our Libcrtiei. hr the fike of deiending
(ttrfcWei ag-dinlt ibcin. Our pafilog fuch a Bill would give
grot Jay to every Frenchman or Spaniard that underflandi
lay ttlnv o( our Conllitncion, and. ai I tin againll making
a!' ' >' . cither in France or Spain, I mult be agaioll
«g ^ iiisClaurc.*
U
St..
* Far br !t from me (0 blame Genriemen for being jealooa
rf the Libcrticjof their Country, and c«uttoU5 of agreeing to
a«y thing chit nay look tike an Encroachaient upon our
ConllitutiuD. Thii m general I Ihall atwayi tliink laudable,
bat dill,] muH (hinlc. it may bepuSied too far. and ulieo it
a (o, it will always b« of tnJini:c Prejudice o the Nation j
therefore, Gcn'Iemen Ihould ai Ciun'oufly avoid oppofing
tlM](e t'orwtrs that are abfolutely oecrflary for ihe Kacrciie
of Covemmcnr, ai they (hould avoid going nfhty inio ihe
gtviog of any Power that ia unnecefiary inudangcrou*. No
luman Conitivance can form a Government or Sy Item of
Laws fo pcifrct as to Hand in need of no Addition, Attera-
liM, or AineodmCBt : Fucure Event* make the Imperftc-
tiont appear ; and as they appear, Caie mull be uken to te-
■cdy them by new ReguUltoni. This is our Cale at prc-
frnc. and t( the Regulation propofed be abfoliitcly necellarjr
tu the Salety of the People, we oiuH agtee to it, even the' n
$Kiald be attended with Inme Danger to the Liberties o( the
1 i i I Wbfilo
(4^8 )
Whole or i Fart of the People : byt I hope to be able to
(hew, that it can be attended with no Danger; and that ihc
Manning of our Navy is abfolutely nccelTtry for the Safety
of the Nation b^s, I think, been acknowledged by every one
that hns fpoke in this Debite.
* The two chief Objefiions made to this Regulation are,
that it will be of dangerous Confequence to tht; Freedom of
our Ele^lions, and that it will be lucha HArdfbip upon our
Seamen, ai will f-rce them into Ibrcign Sirrvice, and prevent
Men from breeding themfelvei to the Sea for the future. I
ihall firlt confide.- the lafl of theft two ObjeAtont, and in or>
der to fhew, that the Regulation now propo&d will be ro
Hardftiip upon our SeatPtn^ 1 fhall beg Leave to explain the
Condition ihey are now in, and the tittle Alteration that ij to
be made ii) their Circumflances by ihit Reguluiion The
Power of prefling Seuinen into his Majelly'i Service, how-
ever niucli it may be doubted of by thufe who have not cxa-
fntned our ancient Records, is a I'uwer that hat been veiled
in our Government, I believe, ever fince our Conlliiution hid
a Being. We have mcntionetl in fume of our Liw Coo}(s 4
Statute made in the Reign of Richard the Firfl, for making
fame new Regulations with regard 10 Ships nnd Seamen prel-
ied into ihe King's Service, which Ihews, (hit PrtOiog was
cullomary before that Time, and that it was then thought 10
be legal i and in the fdmou^ Inquifition of Qurenhorougb, tn
the Reign of Fdward tlie Third, it is exprcfsJy given in
Charge tu the [nquell among other Things, to enquire of tbnia
Mariners that were prclTcd for the Kii<g'i Service, and drleri>
cd the fame. I coulo mention fcvcral otlicr RccorJi ig
ihcw, ihat ibif Power of prelTtng Seaiiien into the Kmg'i ser-
vice has always been deemed Irgil, and has in all Times been
looked on as a Part of the Common Jaw of England : Nay,
it may even be faid to be ellablifhed by Statute t for in tr.e
Reign of Philip and Mary, a S:a:u:c was mjde, by which i;
was enabled, 1'hat Watermen who withdraw themfclres in
time of Prefiing, (hall fufFer a Fortnight's InipriJonmcnt, and
be prohibited to row any more upon ihuTliamtri for a Veir
and a Day after : By an Afl of the fccond ot Queen Anne,
a certain Allowance of able Scimrn is elUbltflied for Sl.ifi
in the Coal-Trade; and it is enafled.That if any OfS:cr
imprcfsanyof the Men fo allcwed, he (haU forfeit ir/. for
every Man foprclTcd, befidesCoIis of Suit: And by another
AtS of the fame Reign, it is declared. That r.o Perfop of
eighteen Yean of Age fhall be excmp:ed from her M jelly''
Service, on Account of his being an Apprentice, who fhiiJ
have been in Sea- S?rv ice bf fore he bound himfelf Appicr.tii-ei
and farther, it is by :nt Qimc Law cnriitcd. That tuf:b Wm:
men
( 419 )
bc«t. Bit
and Liflluci
rgenun and Liglucrmen. ai dull cot appear, when
* ;J on by tbc Wjtrrnien» Compny, labc lent to her Ma.
< Flrci, ihall Cuflrr one MontbVi Imprifanmenl, and be
fjutilcd working on the Thsme* for luo Vctrs.'
■ I'hiu it )ip{>cAis.Sir, ih^t thr Poucrof Preffingis by Im-
plxaitoo llft>ngiy cilabiiAiH by Sc-ituce; antj the Raioa ef
ni Bor beii g cxpieftiv clUbliOurcl, was ceruic!)' becattfe it
tmt Alwajra deemed lo be (o cxprefsly cDabliOxd by Cojntnon
LAif. tiisi ir wai unncccfT^ry to cAsbliOi itio cxprefs Words
bjrao^ SiXiiic. Having thut Ihevn, that the Power oF Pref.
&i;f ii ciu.'ilifhfd both by the Common and Suiuie Liw of
Kingdt^m, I Iholi doi rxanilnc the Cu^otn, which in all
;: *'. Ctlc»rxpUtn the Law ; and it it ceraJn, that theCuf-
BO ha* aiw^vs bran, not onlj' to prcfi Seamen out of \Ier-
duotShipf. bmaUo co learch the Ship hr fuchaiablcond or
OBKsai (henilclvct oabo^rd. ThElV. Sir. ate the Ciicum-
§met» our S<:atn«a arc in at prefcnt » thefc are ihe Circum*
fcacci they have alvrays been in: They may be pre (led at
l^tH ■«' :)'••«■ arc found in the Streets or Highways, or in
•ay : It m OfBccr can have Acccfi to them i they
•-■■ li.^J from oa beard a Ship, and the Ship may be
: y an Oilicer niul Prefj-Gang. in order to come at
is.ic: n'K, conceal ihcmfelvci on boonl. Whuc then is the
gtoi adtiiiional Pawcr dc£rcd f Whil ti ihr great 'Altera-
t>oa to be mule in a Setntan'* Circumllarcr, by (hit Claufe '
I: n noiriorc (bin (hit, thai a Seaman whoahkonds Irom hi«
Ssty may be (carchcd for in a lloufc. 3» well aj on Ship-
ksnf. with lliit m^icri^l OilTerenCe. tlut a Ship may be
■ijt hirn wiihout the Airiltince ofany Civil OfSccr ;
I'c >s fiot 10 bi: fcaichcd <*itr^oui tbs AllilUtice of a
UkiJ Ciiiccr.
* ft Tht;. <!ir, foch an tdditionat Hardfhip upon our Sca-
rce ilicni into foreign Service, or prevent Men
(hciiii'etves up to the S«a fur [tie tuiurc? It i:
■tJJitional Power to the Crown, as wdl dcilroy tba
. of our f* li<ilioni / I am really furpnud. Sir, lo hrpr
tgiaary D:inger»fuggr|]ed. By iheLiw, as itdandf
ent, liie CfOt^n, ai f have fheMii, has a Power toprefa
imen iii;o the Service, and may exercite that Power
any one ir the Char-ifler of a coirmon Scam^in, unleCs
Bakes liioifclfa clofe Pnioncr in iome Ifouli:: yet we
kaow h/ r.a[<iiciKr, that Seamen ate as little under the In<
AntKC of I'le Crown, or Ol any Minillcr, with re|>ard to their
*wng at E't^ioni, ai any other Part of hit Majelly's Sub-
'\t&*i and tlie Reafuo is\ery pLiio, s ScJinan may veiy ca<
^'7 iirrvcnt tiii being prc0cd. by enuring hiirlelt on biMrd
VDe of ojr Ship* of Wu, ai fooii ji a Prcft ji like to begin t
andi
(430)
and if he does his Duty on board, no Minilier. nor even the
Captain under whofe Command he is, can tnflift any
FuniOiment upon him, or fubjcil him to any Hardlhip, oq
Account of his not voting according to his DtreAion at la
Eledion. Thus the Cafe has always ftood, with regnrd to
the Danger of being prelTecl i and as the Danger of bfiag
iearched for m:iy be avoided in the fame Manner, ihererorc
we cannot fuppofe it will have any EfFeftupon the Freedom
of our Seamen's voting at Gleflions.
* As to the Terms Seamen and SeafearJng Men, itistnie.
Sir, tbcy are general ; but, I think, they are eafily underilood,
and have been fufficiently explained by Cuftom: for no Man
is fuppofed to be a Seaman or Seafaring Vlan, unlefs he it, or
has within a few Years been in aAunl Service at Sta. as a
common Seaman ; and none but fucli have ever bren, or
could.I thinU, (hould this Claufe pifs intoa Law, be prefled
at common Seamen into his Mb jelly's Service : Therefore,
'Matters and M^tes of Merchant Ships, or Seamen thatare or
may be fettled in foine good Bu^nefs at Land, can be brought
into no Danger, nor under any Influence, by this Claufe ;
and confequently, with regard to Seamen of all Ranks and
Degrees, it can no way erxroach upon the Freedom of per
Eleftions, or any way endanger ihe Librrtics of the Suhjefi.
( I come now. Sir, to the othsr Part of the Objeflion,
which relates tc the Influence which the Poner of fearching
for Seamen may have upon Houfe-keepers that are no: Sea-
men ; and here in general J mull oblcrve, th:i[ therr is ret
anyone Power the Crown ir, or c;in be inveiled uith, but
what might be made inconvenient tvcn to the molt innocent.
jf thofe who have the Excrcife rf it (Iiou'd prefume tomske
a bad Ufe of it, and our Judges fhould connive at their Pie-
[iimption ; but in a!! Cafes, thefe two Caufes mull concur,
before the Kxercife of any Powtr can produce fuch an Kf&Af
for when any Power is given by the 1 egifiaturc for a gcod
Purpofe, it is the Eufincfs and the Duty of our Judges ta
prevent its b^-inj; turned intoa b-id Purpofe, by punifliipg
every Magiliriite or Officer that Ihall be guilty of fuch a high
Prefumpiion. Therefore, whiKt iholV employed in the fie-
cutive fart of our Government r.fl regularly, or our Judges
decree juHly, o-jr Liberties can never be in Dinger from any
Power lodgfd by the Ltgitluure in the Crown, for the ce-
cti^^ry Ends of Government: and if all our Officer* fhould
bcromc tyrannical, and our Judges corrupt, T do not fee how
it would be p'jirr>le to prefcrve either our Liberties or Pro-
p-r;ie5, any otht r w?.y than by a general InfurreAion ; even
(ho' the Crcv;n hid not near fa many Prerogative", or fomucii
fo-j/e:, 85 :c h:;:ii r: rrcfen;.
I:
( 430
'ibc Crown. Sir, had never, ia any raftaica before, I«mI
" " ftf a Po*er to feircfi Houlei by Nightorby Diy,
' c (omc Room for being caunous of granting the
i;rcii i but fttcb x Power the Cion'o, or at ieali
: Ju~g'.^ jud Magillratri ap[>ointc<] b^ ihe Crown, have in
■•s]r C ilei been ^xillcfleJ o(, ever fmce ouf Coallicutioa had
^■clftg. A* fevc al of tlx-fp e'^iVi lure been meJiuoned b;
'fc^ncombe and Ic^iikJ Tacr^d, I need not repeat them ;
ICMte which he did not iiicnuon, I cannot omit taking no-
taf, which ii thiiof nrrcl\ingt<Se King's Dcbiort for upoa
at (be King'i Soit Jigainll any Perfop who is bis
r. tht ShcriB' or tiir OiSccr may bicak open any Koufe
ch of hioi, afcr he has lignified hii Errand 10 the
sod has been relofcd AdtnKtaact?. If it wrre poiS-
lUTB any fuch Power towardi infiueociBg Et&ioas,
it would be much mote ealy in this Calie to urn u to
Eiivil Purpofc. than in the Calc now before Di. The Sheriff
|ii 4 &t>giQrateqppointed by the Crown, as well aioiir Ju^-
I tet oi I'eace i and Sheitfft Officers, I beliete, are gectrally
Ucnof BO brttEf L'h-irader than petty CoaJlablcs. Bcfidei^
h n 1 Frcirncc that might be much oftener made ufe of; lor
I ITDuks for Seamca cio acver be pfeteoded. but ia
' A hot Freft, aoJ after the I^rd High Adminl. or
'.rnmi luonrrt of the Admirnlty. hive iflbed their Warnnti
ftr (hit Pdfpofc^ which (hey cinnot do but upon exiraordi-
ttiy Oc^iifiaui, aoti fuch as happen but very rarely,
* Therclure, Sir, if we are to judge from Hxperience in
other L'aK:, which is certainly one of tiie iurell ways of
jalgtof; 'R a'A hiactcn uf a political Naiuic, we mtin con*
tia.'- ■•■ Power of feaiching Houfcs, in the Ole nOW
lli.. I Ik of Bo bad Confeqiicnce lorhe Freedom ot
. or incoBvcDicnt to any .\ha in theKi'':gdom,
r; ic Se-innenthat sbfcood in'I'tme of Dan^rr fiom
tfc^ CouPtry'r' Service, and to f^chas reader ihemlelves (uf-
PiOmJ of harbouring and concealing fuch Seamen ; andfurdy
Ihc Pub';C U more inicitUed in luving bii MjjeU>'* fiett
manned m 'lime of Danger, than in ici buying rhc Debts dotf
ll> kit MjjeUy paid, or hit Debtor? ttrreticd.
rhu>, I l>opc. Sir, I have IhtWR. that there i» nothing
ia er.aer uf tlieiwa chief Objv^too* chat tuve been nude a-
ffioA ttui Claufe) and as (he Navy it net yet ruflictcstly
^pnrrUcd wiib Seainen, after tryirg Emhargoea. PrtfTinp , ind
other Method that could be thought of, it ii abfolotdy
neceiCiry to contrive (oaie new Vlethod far fnpplying the
i£tc&u<iicf. The cacoiiraging <f ' r -n Seamen to ent«f
'inioouf SctKicc, or the hiring nl ' . p , irc Methods
whtcb cuROt be tniRcd toi AiidiO'-t -ne siMbedi whkh I
ihall
(432 )
(M\ TjcvfT be for miliiag ufe of. aa loog u wc cui
Ship* or Swmen «f our own, doi only brcMle « en
rely lo much upon the Coorsgr arc) Fi ' ' 'orep '
men a upon our own, but alfo brcsu trM tal
incrmfingof the naval Power of Ibmr Icrrun Ni
who may (cMt>e Time hcmfter be our Fxc-mv. 11
as ihe Method now propofed is the hril I h
I muft be for ii till I hear Tome better offc
ilcmen chink the Amendment propofcd wouJJ iki
grrout than the C):Aurc » it now lUrKls, thrjr unj
jcfl the Amend mrnt, or tbey miy l»re out the Wonti
and only eirpower JullicM of the Pc»c« to jr«m i
rant for fearchingany Houfe upon an lafotmattoo
bjrfome cieditable Ferfon, that there it CioJie to fafpeft]
men being concealed in the Houle.
' Ai for that Pin of the Claufe which !• to adifi
tio upon ihofe who (hall harbour or concMl
Seamen, it can aSet\ none but luch ii Icaoviaglf d»%j|
fuch, J muft think, deferTc highly to be pooifiiad.
man who sbfcoivdf. when hii Country it i» ~
tiiodi in need of hii Afllllance. T muA fappofelol
NOiu a Traitor, a« my that can be declared to by
iherefbrr, I think, he ought to be treated wkJk ai audi :
gourii any Traitor whatfccvcf : for which ftra^. I
neither thinic it Cruel nor inhomiio to puRifli a MocHf
concealing her Soc, or a Daughter for .' - - -. ' " ;; bcr f I
Itiiwhat iiuruiTy donein Csfoof Tr uxt
nccslTary for the Safety of the Commor.MrxMai kr iJl
merciful Allowance i« in fuch Calci m be maiJe tal
Wcaknrfs, it ought to be left to hu Majeily, »( wfcir
Mercy ire, that be may in hi> Royal Wiklotn dl/jpaatll
refa^ it, according to the Circum^nceiof ibc Cuc.i
Merit* cftbe Pcrioni that (uc/orit.
• I am forry. Sir, to iind that we are (n fitcb
we are at prefenr, for want of Seamea r 1 wtfii k
wife: I w>(hwehid, in Timeof Faa'ce, thought of
for prerenttng it i and i (bill ackDOwIrdfr. it ik»
been forr(een : 1 believe it wat iorefe;a by out
but 31 popolar Ailembltes are not genumlly <r«Ty
fot<fccing liirlaot Dingert. and not eifily perfwadcd «><
proper Medium far preveniteg then. eipenaUy «V
Meafure! are fuch. at mutl piK tbea (o an tnoMitfMM
pence, our Minilters would not vnitare lo propafc*^''
X'lrafare*. bccaufc ihey dcfpairtJ of Bcrciag wiek
Thri, I believe, was the true ReaCim of ibcir nefk.:..
do fo, and not their Defireroheepvpi ra&rc tuubcroail
bg Army tliaa tvai ncctftary i for I tkiak it mn W|
(433 )
h», thtt we kept up in Time of Peace fucli a Namber of re-
fadar Troops as we did, becaufe if we bad not, we muft have
ntdc greater Levies ibr the Land Service at the Beginning
^tliis War than wt did, and this would iiave dillrelTed us
■is nore, with regard to the Sea Service, than we are at pre-
feat. But fuppofe ourDillrels to be owing to fome Negleft
V Mlkondufl in our Miniflers, will our removing or punilh>
lag them relieve us from that Dillrels ? Or will our agreeing
Aowbitii nowpropofed interrupt our Enquiry i&to their Con-
flafi, or prevent our beinv able to remove or panilh them ?
• The Bilt now propoJed, the very Propofuion, Sir, even
tko' it ftiould be rejefled, will publith our Diftrrfs to our Ene-
teiai ; but I had rather they fliould hear of our Diflrefs by
•■r agreeing to fuch a Bill, than that tlley fliould become fen-
fiUc of it by the Sutxrefs of their Privateers againft our Mer-
ttanli, or by theSuccefs of their Squadrons againfl thcSqua-
flmw of this Nation. Whatever DiArefs our Enemies may
Cqppofe us to be in, they can exp:£t no good to ihemretvcs
Mb our palHng this Bill ; becaule we pajRTed a Bill of the
Aitae Nature io the late glorious War in Queen Anne's Time,
t^ua we were fo fuccef^ful both by Land and Sea. it will
SMj convince then, that we arc refolved to exert our whole
CtKogih againft them, and the I'error of this will, I hope,
ftoB bring them to Reafoa.*
Sir John Hynd Cotton.
Si a,
■ I have obferved of late Vears, that there is a Party of Sir John
IfeointhisKingtlom, who, upon allOccafiom, declare them-"'"** ^°'^°''-
>&Tes for an Enquiry into the Condud of our Minillers, and
fin punilhing them, if they fhoul'.! be found to deferve it ;
yet they oppofe every previous Step that is necelTary for en-
tering upon :m Enquiry ; and if it were list on Foot, I believe,
thcj woold oppole every thing that might tend towards
judering iiefieOual. The hme Party of Men, Sir, always
dadarc, that wc ought to be jealuus of our Liberties, and
ttntioos of granting any Power tlut may contribute to their
Overthrow t yet they are alwMvs ready to approve of every
thing propofed by the Court, nnd to think every Power
aeceflary for the Exercifc of Guvcrnment which our Mini-
fters declare to be fo. I hope, there are none of this Pany
in this Aflemb'-y i for every Gentleman lire has, I hope, fo
Jtanch Honour as to be fmccre in every thing he profclKs.
Z muA acknowledge. Sir, that 1 am, and. 1 hope, always
ftk& be truly jealous of every new Power that i;, or can be
■ficed by Miniilers: Whether 1 puih this Jcnlcufy too far
apoa tfaepierenL CXcaiioD, I muft leave to the liou:e to ju-'ge ;
ii k it but
rtJUffi
(434)
but I muR declsre ihat, in my Opinion, the Po<«ct
lircd never can be necclliiry, ihat it ti Ctr fron haa^ttai-
ferrupon the prcfcntOcca^on, thicit would beofltewi
daogeroas Confcquenct: (o our L'onltimttofi, uil tlut i
would K laH dcArojr the very Ead fior wkkh k i* biilBbi
defirtd.
< That I nuy regul&rly fallow the honoonblc vd lanrf
GentlemMi, I (hall begin with the \»A. He bfts baCB pkd
cd, Sir, to Ihew, what a hard Condition oar S«Mca an*
by the liws aa they now (had ; and, fay t be. the mdiia§ ^
one Haidlhip more can no my difcouragc oorSasMa,*
lelTeo the Breed of that ufefiil Body of Kltn. Sir, «tal«
Ropcis.Atctchedto itmtraoll Length, ifyoa«ttnn^»feMd
it but one Inch further, it break*. He wii likcwilepliri^
10 dip into ourantieni Records, in order lofhew wlut hliK
I thiolc, been denied in this Debate. That, upon pcttStf
fuddenEmcrgcncicj.thcKiQghas.by hi»Picfoeiinr».>^*
to prefs Seamen into his Servurc, n what no GciiUcsa#
nte5 ; buterery Centleman mull granCi that this Prcreypi
ought not to be made ufe of upon every triSJDtOcciftoata'
that when it is made ufc of, it ought to be with as mftl^
nity u polTible, and it ought to bcsccompanied wiUtuaM
EDCDuragcments bs it n in the Power of thcGovcravots
beilow. In the Exerctte a[ ihii Prerogative, pcrkap*
CuRom may have been lo fearch Shipi for Scajncn «keCI»
ceal'dtbemtetreion board; but I doobt iBQcbwhcvbtriBOfr
ccrwith a Piefi Gang hai by Law a Power to break oMiiti
J>oots or Hatches of a Ship, in caCt the Mjflcr ftmM l^
to open thrm, efprcially when the Ship happrsa total ieMf
River or Port which » not within the Jurifdi^ion cf tie <»
mintty. But whatever tany be the Law in ihi* Orii. ■
know that our Seamen are alreidy (abject to Ruuy Hn^M*
wbtrh the reH of the People are frre from: and itercjab
when we arc coftUiving a Bill for the Eocouninm wi
Increafe of Seamen, we ought not furcly to hcKpac«Ki^
Ihips upon them, brcaufr. whether ihoie Hantfhipt be lii'-
ferable or oo, is i Queilion that h not to be dcicrvMii tf
the Opinion of this lloufe. end mueh left by (be Oylii*
of our learned Gentlemen of the long Robe, bat by tWQ^
nion of our Seamen and otber People whbooc Doon; iv*
they think them iofuflerable, they t»ill ccrbualy caiawv
to avoid themr Our Seamen by running into foreigiRSiniB.
and the reH of our People by dkug Ore not to bfCfd if
felves or their Children to toy (bnorSca Scrrioe.
< Alto the Meaning thAi bufacca, or nay bepnnffdi
WordtSeanianor Scatahng Man. 1 flwJI boi prcaMW^
teriDJBCi but thii I am well affured of. Sir, tbn Mm«'
r{ 435 ) ■
[ Ships, and SetnieQ fritted in GufiRprs ac Lind, ^avc
been fomctitn<* pr«fIH into hb Mijefty'* Service i and if wr
flMKtIfi cxprcHy luthorilc prelSng by Statute, I do not know
bw a Liberty might be taken to prefs (be Captains or Kiti-
BVTf of coafling or trading Vefleh , and even fuch Se^iinca ur
' Capuins as had .icquircd or faccecded toa Ld»d'F.tUtr,
(bought ihcmfelves fettled in an eafy Manner for (he
ainlng Pari of their Uvet. Even in the late Qaeen's
Trme, when ao A& ofihii Nature wbj paff«l for one Vcar,
C <nti thought Dcccflaryio reltnun the meaoingoftbe Word
.men, to ?uch as had been in Service in her MajcAy's Reign,
hich was then in its fourth Year only. From hence, I
tibink, it it evident, that jf we intend to authorifeprefliDg by
ntpreG Statute, we ought to make feveral Exceptions and
tegulation-, in order to prevent its being a moil incolerible
fiion upon nuny of his MajcRy's bell SjbjeAt ; and we
t to take Care, ihatcomraon Seamen returning from ■
age iball have an Opporionity tocffcr themfelves ai Va-
amten, and that no&eamanAwll be rejected a>a Volunteer,
nd iccepted of u a prclTed Man, in order to entitle theOffi-
Cr (o a Reward for pr«£ng him.
* Now, Sir, with regard to (he Influence ibis Bill may hare
ipen our tIcAions, [ am really lurprKsed to hear Gentlemen
retcnd. that our Seamen vote ai freely as any other Sort of
Aen in the Kingdom. Mod ofchc Borougbi upon our Coaft
a convincing Proof of the contrary. Arc not many of
Iwfc Borougbi now called Admiralty-Etoronghi, became the/
Imyi tciuin fucb Rcprefcntativcs ai the Board oT Admiralty
leafcs to dirc^ ? The very Natore ofTbingi ii a dcmon-
ative Proof, that, Seamen mun ~be under ibe Inflgefice of
he Admiraby-Boaidin £je>ftiuoii for, kc a ScAman be never
'o cxatt in the rerformance of bit Duty, his Commander
ly fubje^l him to many Hardftips and Inconveniences on
loerd, if he has or is oidcrcd to have a Ptque at him opon any
Ker Aa:ount. Bcfides.all Seamen, while they a re on board,
lOpe to be preferred in (he Navy, and will of courfe take
rcry Method they can think of for recommending ihem-
^VCl to the Government. Even Seamen ihit >re leulcd
bore, muft be under the Influence of the Admiralty at
ions, otfaerwife they may depend upon being preAcd as
aa an Opportunity offers, and of being hardly uCeJ,
liU (bey are in the Governaient's Service. They have no
\j to avoid th>i,but by leaving tlitir fiufiDcfs and abkoml*
;, and even this melancholy Relource you are now about to
away ffoiu them : Theiclure, if this Biil Ibould pafi, we
a& Tuppofe, that all Seamen, be they where (bey will, lit
Circumlianccibewbat iKcy will.muil for the future be
K It k 2 ibe
( 436 )
the abfolute Slave* of a Minifter, and mn^ vote at all Ekc^
tiona, as he fliall be pleafed to dired.
* Then with regard to the reft of the Subjrfli who lilfe
not the Misfortune to be Seamen, ii it not a terrible Thiag
for a Mao to be in continual Danger of having his Hoofe laid
open to a petty Conllable and aPrefs-Gang, by Day or by
Night ? Belidet the Inconvenience of being diftiirbed, lie
mull never flir from home, or if he does, he mull not taketbe
Key of any Clofet along with him; becaufe a pKfi^GaBg
may come and break it oprn btrfore he returns. The Power
of fearching for the King's Debtors if, I Ihall grant, adangcr-
oas Power, and might be made a very bad Ufe off nil t
muft obfcrve, that this Power was introduced, when Sbcrifi
were not named by the Crown, but chofcn by the rcfpt&ive
Counties; and tho' Sheriffs Officers are feldom Men of any
gieit Charafter, they are more to be trufted to than petty
Conilables, becaufe the former give Security to the Sberifffor
the due Execution of their OfGce, and thcSheriffhimfelf rs
anfwerable for their Behaviour; whereas petty CoDllablei
give no Security, nor is any Juftice of the Peace anfwetabte
for the Damages they may occafioo. I could fhew, that the
Power now dcfir'd is, on feveral other Accounts, more dan^
gerous than the Power of fearching for the King's Dcbnin;
but fuppofe it were rot, is one dangerous Power any Argg-
ment for granting Another of the lame Nature i If the Power
already granted has never been made a bad Ufe of, the grut-
ing another of the fame Nature might be the Caafe of both'i
being made made a bad V(c of in Time tn come ; becaufe an
KffsA may be produced by making a bad Ufe of both, which
could never have been hoped for by making a bad Ufe of
one. The Hopes of Impunity is whatoccifions a Power's be-
ing made ab^d Ufe of; and thit Impunity may befecarcd
by making a bad Ufe of two Powers, which could cerer have
been expelled from making a bad \Jie of one.
• This, Sir, is the gre,it Danger, and it is not eafy to deter-
mine, where oi:r Security endf, and where the Danger be-
gins. One Thing, however, is certain, that if we go on thus
yearly putting n=w Powers into the Hands of our Miniften,
the Danger will become not only unavoidable bu: irretrier-
able. Our Officers will be regular, our Judges will be jaft,
as long as they are in Dar.gtr of being called to an Accooot
ln'P.irliament, if they aft otherwife. If we put it once in
tlieir Power to guard againft this Danger, they will aft here
as they do in sh other arbitrary Governments t and thit wiQ
be the cirrtain Conl'cquence, if we put it in the Power of oar
Miniilers to over-ane or influence the Majority of our E-
Jeftioni.
( 437 )
lioAs. It ii tiy having our Parlianent* tlvay i depen-
Btnpoo oar MiniHrrt, and by this Method only, we can be
to the titncntable Circumiiancei of having no Re-
1^ bai a geoerat lofurreflioo, agaitll the Tpjutlice of our
aiul Opprc^ion cf out OAicers i and fuch Partiamcnu
. ccrainly provide our Minilters with 311 Army (ufficiesc
I pniteA them igaiofl sn JoEiirrtfUoo ofthe People i io that
in th«n jtevm expcA any Redief^s bulb/ a Mutiny in our
Anoy, ifvd by thJi;, ai in 1 urkey, we mty Ice a Change in
ikPcHoct of oui Opprclfurt, but can cxpccl no Relief from
Opprrilioo. .
• Tbi»»,Sir, I thinlc, ii if aj-parcnt. that this Power, added
Mai) ibe Powers our Minillers are alrewly poflcilcd o^ will
broT the tnoU dangerous Confctjuence to our Conlliiuiion i
inj, coolViering how long our Governtneni has Tubfilted n'ui^
*xit,I am fuf|)ri£«d to Iicai* any Gentleman prcteod, that it
^s t£.w .-.hi"alutely necertJiy for the Exerciie ol Gorcrnnicnt.
3je now more unwilling to enier into (he GoverD*
. ... .:vic« thftnihey were fotRierly, it mutt be owing to
late Mill-onduA in our Miniflcrsi and thcielbrc, the
Fit EiKoungement wecin propofc for our Seamen is, to re-
oavt thofc ctiJti have difabjgrd ihroi. The Icirtied Gca-
itmtJi fays our agreeing to this CUule can no way pieveot
OCT being able to remove any Mmiiter. Is not this. Sir, brg-
MBfUacC^cihoni II it adds to a Mtniller's InBueoceat E-
Umnis, ifbriU it oQt tend to prevct)t iti being in ihcNatioa't
fmmKi to remove him by any fort of Parliamentary Method i
tatuconfider. Sir, that thii 13 the very lal) ^elTion ofo S:p-
lesaial Pailumcnt, and thit a new Scp;tnnial Parliament la
Bcn Summer to be rhol'cn j and then we may perhaps (er»
ivhy (tich a Power it dclired at ihiicritiol Conjundure
• For my Pan, Sir. 1 have not licard one Argutoeot made
nlc gf fot Hicwiog, thai this Power it aecciliiry at all, atul
noch lefi that it i* ncceltary upon the prefent Octafiott: I
(if, f have not beard one Argument for this Purpofe, but one
from a Newt-Paper, by a Gentleman 00 way concero-
[the A^imiratty. From that Ncw»-Papcr, indeed, be
^eavourtd to frighten ai with an Invauon. and to nuke
■1 believe, that if ue do not make a Surrender of our Li-
fknia to oar MifiiHer?. the Frcnchsntl Spsniirdswill como
uke them from Dt ; but, ai he confcfied, he knew no-
[ttiag of the Matter, and ai thofe who ought to know, have
bMn plcAfcJ to declare, that we are io any real Uacger,
fiiall not be fuch a Child, at to be frighcca'd out of mjr
cnfej by fuch an imagiaajjr Bugbear.'
(438)
M.
St&>
j^ • The two honoanble and learned Grsdcaui!
in favour of ihisCIaurc, were plrafcd to Ibew,
men ire half Slaves already, and oow thry
you fhoutd tnike chern wholly To. Will ibtt i
Number ol Scameii ? Or will ii mike thoiie yoa h
tvilliDg to ferve you f Can you cxpef), that aay
make hinfclf a Stare if he can zvoid it t Cka yi
chat any Man will breed hij Child op co be a Sk
you expert, that Seamen will vrntuic (heit Lin
Limbi for 3 Country chat hai made thea Sk
you cxpeA, ihae ary Seaman will flay in tftcC
he CSD by any Means make his Efcape t Sir, 4
this Law, you, in my Opinion, do with yo«rSl
they do with their Galley Staves in France t yoa
diem to iheir Ship, or chain them io Coopki.
aie a&ore. But fuppofe thii (hould both iocretiti
ber of yoar Seamen, and render them more willia
you, it will reodfr them incapable. Jt ii t
Jervation, that when a Man becom«$ ■ SUtc, be
hii Virtue. What «rill ic fignify to kite ya«r
manit'd to their full Compliment f Your Met
have Courage nor a Temptation to f.ght i ihrr
the fiiLt Eociny that aiiacki them, bccaofe ilieii
canDOt be made woife by a Surrender. Oar Sd
■Iway been famous for a inaichlefi Alacricy aad 1
in Time of Dinger : Thii has (avcri many a Bii
when other Seaman would have run below DedE
the Ship to the Mercy of the Waves, er pcrbi
cruel Enemy, a Pirate. For God>lakc, Sir, la
our new Projc3> put oor Seamen into Gicli a C«
miili footi m^ike them worfa than (be cavai^
France or Spam.
* The learned Geatlemrn were next pVmM
thit tlic Government wai already paStSei tf i
as U oow dcfued t and how did they flicw < I
by fhewing thit thii wai the Fradicc in tbeO^
and ia (he Cafe of thofe who are as b«l ii ^to
thofe who rob the Poblie. or diffipate ikc pll
Shall we. Sir, pat ojr brave Sailori apoo iIk ii
with Feluni and public Robbcn^ Shall abrafcl
be (retted ataFcloa, toi nooiber Reaj'oa, bath
a long Voyage, be has a miad to folare ht&ictf
Frieodi in tnc Couetry, and far that Purpofr i
a few WccJm, io Older to prcveot hn being pa
( 439 )
'df^bme facb picific Expedition f For T dare iDfivsr
rt, there is oo: a Sailor in Briuin, but would immediate.
his Service, if be thought hi» Country in any real
cr, or expeftcd to be fent upon an ExpcditioD, where
jht bave a Chance of gaining Richn to himfelf, and
lo bis Country. 1 am really alhatned. Sir, lo hear
krgpmcnti made ufe of in any Cafe, where our Sea-
coDcerDed. Can wc expeft, that brave Men will
rcfmt fuch Treatment ? Could we expcA, ihey woold
with ui, if we (houtd makes Law for trcaung ihem io
a coniempiibie Manner i
But fuppofe, Sir, we had no Regard for our SeameD, I
we ihsll faat*e fome Regard for ibe reft of the People,
for oarfclves in panicular ; for, I thiok, I do not ia
leait exaggerate, when I fay, we are laying a Trap for
Liretof all the Men of Spirit in the Nation. Whether
:taw, when made, is to be carried into Exccutioo. I do
know i but, if it ii, wc arc laying a Snare for our LtTci.
Every Gcnilcman of thi» Houfe mull be fuppoled, I hope,
jdlly, to be a Man of Spirit. Would any of yoo Geotle-
■nt allow this Law to be executed in iti full EJaent ? If at
[Jublnight a petty CnnlUble with aPrefi-Gang Ihould come
Itundcring at the Gates of your Houfe in the Country, and
lid tell you he ha<l a Search- Warrant, and mud fearch
Houlc for Seamen, would you, at tliat Time of Night*
your Gatet to he opened } 1 pro;ct}, 1 would not r
It then would be the Conteqoenc* ? He has by this Law
ihwcr CO break ihem opeti. Would any of you patiently
rfiAnit to luch an Indignity ? Would not you fire upon him,
At be attempted to break open your Gacei f 1 declare. I
■■Venld, let the Cunfequence be ncrer fo fatal ; And» if you
h^pcned to be IB the bad Graces of a MiniAcr, the Cob-
fe^oesce would be, either your being killed in the Fray, or
hanged for killing the Coodable, or fome of the Gaog.
TlUa, Sir, nay be the Cafe, even of fome of uB-herc, and.
I tpu my Hoooar, 1 do not think it an Exaggcntdon to fup-
\fot$ it may.
The honourable Gentlemen fiiy, no other Remedy hai
beta propos'd. Sir, there have been feveraloiher Rctnedies
projn**d. Let ui go into a Committee to confuler of what
M> bees, or m^y be propofed. Suppofc nu Remedy (liould
be oOcred, to tell ut wc muU uke thi». becaule no othef
Remedy can be thought of, ii the fame with a PhyfictilD't
trlHng btf Patient, Sir, there is no known Remedy for your
OiAemper, therefore you ihill uke Poifon i I'll cram it dowo
TOD Tbrott. I do not know bow die Nation may ueat ita
Phy-
King Chtrlei ll'i Time. In King Williii
Fniicef when their mval Power was ntkif
St is u prefent* and when we had more Ro
of an Innfion tban wecan hsveatprefent, '
to be in no fach Extremity. In Qaeen Am
-we were engaged in a Wsr both eg&iaft Fi
and were obliged to make great Levies yeti
Service, no fiicb Remedy was ever though
Year only, and then it was foond to be fiu
ftQoal.
' Tfaii, Sir, I am convinced, woold be t
well ai it was then. It wai at that time co
neani offacb a Law as this, there were not
men brought into the Government's Service
ing the Methods that have been already
Reward promifed by this Bill to be offert
I am convinced, that the moft ftriA tn4
would not bring in half the Number. Si
the iake of adding 6 or 700, or even 1401
Majcfty^i Navy, expofe our Conftitution to I
and every Houfe-keeper in the Kingdom t
being diHurbed at all Hours in the Ni^i I
* But fuppofe this Law were to have a
can be called nothing but a temporary Ex|
it can no way contribute towards increafing
our Seamen, or towards rendering them me
ter into his Majelly's Sen^ice. It is an G
h I coald J« in find of thefe temportry Expedieots ;
e have been pnrraing them fo long, that we have al-
uodone oor Country, and overtiirned oar Conflitution.
efbre, Sir, I (ball be for leaving tbia Claufe out of the
and every other Claufe relating to it. Tlic Bill will
Tome Service withont thcitii ; and when we have paf-
, we may then go into a Committee to confidef of fome
{ Methods for increaGng oar Stock of Seamen, and for
ngiflg them upon all Occafioni to enter into hia Mi-
Service.*
Copy of hia Majefty*a Speech, relating to tlie Qaeeif
ingary, deliver'd April the 4.tb, being read to tbe
B,Mr. Clatterbackrofe up» tndfpokcfo thla ££;Q.
Sir,
I'be preftot Cbnfafloo in Europe, the kn^n Defigni ot^-Chitur-
reach, the nonierouB Claiina to the Anflrian DominioDa, *'^^-
.rniiea which are levied to fopport tbem, and the pre*
nability of the Qoeen of Hangary to maintain tho(e-
ta wbick defcend to her from her Anceflora, and have
eonfirmed by all the Solemnity of Treatiea, evident!^
re an uncommon Degree of Attention io oor Coniulu-
ud of Vigour in our Proceedinga.
7hMtevcr may be the Prafeffions of the French, their real
Oi are eafily difcorcred i Defigna which they have car-
m, either openly, or in private, for nirar a Century,
vhicfa it cannot ^ expeAed that they will lay aJide.
tbcy are fo ncir to Succefa. Their View, Sir, in all
Wara and Treatiei, Alliancea and Intrigoea, hai beeik -
itainment of univerfal Dominion, the DeflruAion of
igfata of Nature, and the SubjeAion of all the reft of
dnd t nor have we any 'Rcafon to imagine that they
It cqtully zealous for the Promotion of this pernicious
ae, while they pour Troops into Germany, for the
tkit of their Ally, aa when they waited JCingdoma,
Hties in Afliei, and plunged Millions into Mifery and
i without any other Motive than the Glory of their
lot the French are not the only Nation at this Time Ix-
ig fin- the Subverfion of our common Liberties. Our
tiea, Sir, are 'endangered by thofe equally interefted
Odrfelves in their Prefcrvation ; for in what Degree
r any of the Princes who are no# endeavouring to di-
uaong tbCmfetvea the Dominions of Auflria, may be
!d whh the Acquifition of new Territories, and an ima.
r Incieafe of Influence and Power, it muft be evident
Lll to
( 442 )
to all who arc rot dazz'ed by imnKdUtc li
stc only bghtiog for FiaDce, and ti\ai, by the
(he AuAriao Family, they mull, ia a fttori nmr,
• ft it well koown. Sir. tho' it it D«tjilwiyi]
tbat political as well u luctint Gmuicfs a.
ntivr, ztiii that be only is a powerful PrioCTi
powerful than ihofe with whotn he old have.
Coatention. That Prince, therefor*, who imtgiaa I
enlarged byaParlition of Territoriet, which gtf«t
additiooal Province), may be at bl) difappoiaied ii
pcfiaiiooi. For if thii Partitioa give) to another .
ready greater thun himfelf. an Oppcrtunityof ti
Strength, in a Degree proportionaie to hii
'ority, the former will loon fiod, that be hat bcca
for noihiog, and that his Danger b ftill the
• Such, Sir, is the Cafcof the King of
he has over-run that Purt of Germany, to
Iay5 claim, will only have weaken^J tJie HooJicsfl
without (Ireogthcoiag bimfirlf.
• 1 le is at prclcot lecure in the PoflefT'on of hti .
became neither the AuOriarn would iuSu the ft
ihc French permit the Audriaas to incrcxl« thait)
fubduing him. Thus, while the prefeni E<|o>pDifa i
i» maintained, Jealoofy and Caution would alwftTtj
him an Ally whenever he (hoatd be ataclcrd i ball
hif AiEftancf, the Aulliun Fanuly fhall be nm'i,
defend him againA the Ambition of Krancc-
' While the Ltberiies of Mankind are thuj eq«
gered by Folly and Ambition, attacked oa ea
ncgleAed on the other, it it ficccOary for iJwM
the Calamity that threatens them, to exm
Endeavours to avert tr, and to retatd the beat
[hofe who are now lulled by the Contemplatioa t
Adnnngc, can be awakened into a juil CoicenJ
general tUppincfs of H-jrope, and be cwaviotcJ
tbcm(clvci can only bo fccurC by uuDav )■ ihti
Liberty and Jullice.
• For tb.i Reafon, Sir. hii Mijefly. hasafbncJ
mute Saodion, and proraifcd to aOilt iheQueca 0
with the Forces which former TreatKi liavn
demand frum him i iot this Rnlon he hit
roufe the Duub from tbcir Sttpiacncft. ud
aim once more for the rOBunoa Safety, to
new Augmentattooj thcfc Powers whsfe Aj
only fubfiila upoa the Cunfidcrcc thai they
fi&at aiul tg anioiatc by opcji DccUxttiOM ia
( 443)
toure of AoQrii, thofe who probably are only bladnei
Mn offisfirgthfirAfliflince. l^ the fcar of Ainding aloBC
linll the Armiej of Frince.
* Thftt by thii Condea ha mfl^expofe his Dominions oa
Continent, to lnvnfion«, Ravagn, lad ihe other MiYe-
»f W»r, every one who knowi their Sination. muft
ly lUow : nor can it be doubted by tny Man, who Imi
of ihe Power of the Pniffuns and French, that ihcy
fcy Gotnroit great Devstlatiotii wiih rrry Utile Opjxjfition,
Foreea of the Eleilonte not being fufficieni to gi/t
Battle. For tho' the fortified Townj might hold oot
ihtt them, that Confiderauon will very tinic R'leviife
cCenc^rtiof thHc who cftnfidrrihe Mi(etiesofa Nation,
Enemici arc in Poflcirion of aU the open Country,
who from their Rampard fee their Harvelli laid wafle,
their Villages in Flames. The Ponilications conntin
Scrergth, but the Field and iKe trading Towni comprise
Richci of a People, tod the Coantry may be mined which
rubdtwd.
[At therefore, Sir, tha FJe^toral Dominions of his Mi-
\mn now endangered, not by any private Difpijrc wiih
rijhbotiring Princes, but by his F>rmnef» in alTerting
aeral Rights of Europe ; as ih-: Confequccces of his
00 thttOccaQon. will be chiefly bencficialioGrtit
wc ought furcly to fupport him in the Profecutiott
Defign : A Defign. which we cannot but approve,
our Ancellori have Blwaj't carried it on without Re<
either to the Danger or the ^penee.
• Ib conformity to thu Mixim of Politics, fo clearly found-
" Hi E<|ui(y. ind iooftenjurtihedby the Voteiof the Parlia-
■t, his Mnjelly hii bero p!c!ifcd to declare (o ui hii Refblu-
n adhere to his Eng?gementi, and oppoCe all Attempt)
ly be forming in tmvuurofaoy unjull Preicnfionito (be
liceot ihcHoufe of Anllria. Tii for this P.nd he drfirei
Cencurrenee of bis Parliament. I hope every Gen-
in ihii Houfe will agree with me, that we ought to
our Approbnioo of tbcfe Xlcafarei, in fuch Teroit,
ly (hew the World, that thoTe who (halt dare to obflruA
nets, mud refoke to incur the Relenrment of this Nation,
cjcpofc thcmrdvti to all the Oppofition which the Par*
iment of Great Britain can <tnd forth ajrajr.ft them. We
K TO pronounce that the Teniluriet of Hanover will be
'9cied on this Occafioa at the Dominions of Greit
Itn, and thAt any Attack on one or the other will be
lily relenrcd. I therefore move, that an bumh'e Addrcft
prefeotcd by ibl» Hoafe to bis Nfajelly, 7i remm «rr
fiMki far Lu S^iib ; t» tjcftt/i a»r duii/ul Stn/t cf bit Ma^
( 444 )
jcfiyijttjl Regard for the Rights ef the ^^in »f Hmi^arf, mmJ
for maintaining the Pragmatic SanSim i to Jeclara tmr Cosrar-
rence in the prudent Meafiires, lubicb bit Majtjij is ptrfmingfw
the Pre/ervatioM of the Libertitt an/i Balanee ef Pewtr /« £«-
r»pe : to atknannUdgt bis Majtjiys IVif/om and RefoUitim, in mt
fuff'tring bimfelfto bt diverltd fnm Jliadify ferftvtrii^ i> hit
jufi Purpofii of ful/Hliag bis Engagtmeats ti/ith thi Hemft tf
Aufiria : M/o, further to affurt his Majtjiy, that, n Ji/"'
to, and Findicatien of the Honour and Oignity ef tit Britijb
Crov^n, tve ^will efeQuallj fiand by', and fnfp^t hit M^tfij
egainft all Infults and jittackt, tvbith anj Primee or Ptmtr, im
Refentment of the jufi Meafures lubicb be bat fo wift/f tahm,
fiall make upon any ef bit Majefiys Domiaiont, tbo" ml be&^-
iitg to the Crown ef Great Sritaiu. And thai in awf fntwrt
Events, lubicb might make it nectffaryfir bim to enter iattfiU
iargir Expencej, this Heuft lAiifl enable bim ta ttnliikmti m tit
mefi tffeSal Manner ^ to the Support ef the ^eem rfHu^arf,
to the preventing, by allreafsnabU Means, the Snbverfam rf^
Houjt ef /iufiria, and to the maintaining tbi Pragwtatit SmaSitn
aua the Liberties and Balanee of Europe.
N-
Sl R,
U^ * The Expediency, ifnot theNecefljtyortheAddre&nov
moved for, will, I believe, be readily allowed bytbofcwbo
confider the jud Meafures which are purAied by his Majeft)'.
the End which ia intended by them, and the powers by whicl)
they are oppofed.
* How much it is our Duty co fupport the Houfe of ^afiria
it is not neceJIary to explain to any N^an who has beard tbi
Debates of this AiTemb'y, or read the Hifloiy of the lifi
War. How much it is Otir Duty to fupport it, is evident
as foon as it is known by whom it is attack'd ; by ihe ao-
tlcnt Enemy of thefe Nations, by the general Dillurbcr of
the Univerfe, by the formidable OppreiTors of Liberty, ei-
ulting in new ^cquifitloos, cnSamed with the MadoeCi of
univerfal Monarchy, and elated with an Opportunity of fub-
jesting Germany, by exalting to the fupreme Power a Priocc
who lh"U hold his Authority only by their PcrmiJSon. '
' The Houfe of Aullria, which has fo often flood forth tl
Dcfelicc of our common Rights, which has poured Armin
into the Field in Confederacy with Great Britain, to fup?
Tpreii t'f.c Infolence of that Family, which nothing could faiii-
fy but boundlefs Power, now demands the AflilTaoce which
it h-.s To often afforded ; that AlTillance is demanded froia
us by every Claim which the laws of Society can eiia£l, or
' the
( 445 )
of Nature can fuggefl. by Tfcaties matsrtfjr
rroj, and folemnly coefirmeJ, by the Tits oF incicflt
ihip, and [he Obligiciom of common Interefl.
To vioUte tfa« public Faiih, and to neglcA the Obferva-
9f Trraliet, is to fink outCeIvci below fiorbarit/, lo de-
that CoaA')«nce whkh onicet Mankind in Society. To
or evjde our SEtpuIaiioni, Sir, is to coDimit a Ctime
wkkJl every hoacA Mind mu£t coofider witb Abhorrence.
ud to ctUbliQi a Precedent v>bKb may be ufcd hereafter to
oar own Deflru£lton.
* To foifake an Ail)*, oa]y beciufe we can receive no im-
SMdiate .Advanugc from his Frjendfhip, or beoiufe it may
be in foDc degree dangeroui to adhere to him ; to fortkke
tun when be nooft wanti oar good OfiiL-es, when be is di-
btStd hy bis Enemies, and deleiied by others, from whom
Wkad RcifoQ to hope for kinder Treatment, is the mo(t
ii^iKablr, the moS hateful Degree of Cowardice and Tre»-
tkiy.
* The Obligations of Utcrefl, Sjr, it is not often needfol
tt nfbice i buc it may be obferved on ihii OccafioD. that a
tigic Vear of Ncgled may never be teitieved. We may,
i:T, now be ab'c to Support iboie whom, when once difpof-
k£cd, u will not be in our Power toreflore ; and thit if we
ider the Moufe of AullrtA to be over borne, our PoAcriiy,
lliraugh every Generation, may have Keafon to curie our
iijuJta:iou> Parfuuopy, our fan! InaHivity, and our pcifi-
MNti Cowardice.
• Wt(h what Views the KiagofPro^TtacotKurs in the French
Meafiirei, or upon what Principles of Policy he promifej to
iini'cif any Security in the Enjoyment of his new DominioBi,
it u nor e^iy to catijrdure ; but as it is eafy to difcover, that
whtKver he may propofe to b'mfeir, hit Condudl evidently
icndt to (be RuiQ of Europe, ib he m.iy, in my Opinioti«
iuAJjr be uppufrd, if he cinoot be diverted or made eafy.
* Nor can wc. Sir, if thti Oppafition fhould incite him, or
iky iMlicr Power, to an InvaGon of his Majetty's foreign
DacnlnioQt, refuii: them our Prole^on and A£illance. f-or
ai ihey tu^r for the CauCe which we are engaged to fupport*
lad (iifct only by cur Mcaluret, we are, it leaft, aa AUiei,
obliged by the Laws of Equity, and the general CompafU of
IMaakind. to arm tn their Oelence ; ancPbhat may be claim-
ed by the common Right of AUiei. wc fiuiU ftirely not deny
^hun, only becaufc they ate more clofely united to uj, bs-
thty 4wn the fame Moikftrcb mtb ourfelvci.
Wf.
(4+6)
Mr. PuUeney,
Sir,
Mr Pulteney * ^"'^ *'*"'^ Eagernefg the French fnatch erery Oppor-
tunity of incre^fing their Influence, extending tbeir Doai-
nioiis, and opprefling their Neighbonrs, the Experieoce of
many Years hai convinced alt Europe ; and it uevident that,
unlefs fome Power be prcferved in a Degree, of Strength
nearly equal to theirs, their Schemes, peraicions u ibcy tre,
cannot be defeated.
* That the only Power from which this Oppofitiofl can be
hoped is the Houfe of Aullria, a very faperficial View of
this Fart of the Globe will fufBciently demonftratc ; of thli
we were long fince To (trongly convinced, that we employed
all oar Forces, and all our Politics to aggr»ndiKe this Honle.
We endeavoured not only to fupport it in all in hereditary
Rights, but to inveft it with new Sovereigntiei,aBd extend
its Authority over new Dominions.
* Why we afterwards varied in oar Council! and oar
Meafures, I have long enquired without any Satia&Aion,
having never. Sir, with the utmoU Application, been able
to difcover the Mottvescothe memorable Tmty of Hanover,
by which we llipuUted to dedroy the Fabric that we baj
been fo long, and To laborioufly endeavouring to creA ; by
which we abandoned that Alliance, which we had fodili-
gently cultivated, which we had preferred to Peace, Plenty,
and Riches, and for which we had chearfuUy fupponed a
tedious, a bloody, and an expenfive War.
' This Conduct, Sir, raifea a greater Degree of Admira'
tton, as the Authors of it had exhauHed all their Eloquence
in cenfuring the Treaty of Utrecht, and had emleavonred lo
expof;: thofe who tranfafled it to the general Hatred of the
Nation ; as they always expreflcd in the llrongeft Terms their
Dread and Detellation of the French ; as theyaninated all
their Harangues, and dunned their Opponents with Declara-
tions of their Zeal for the Liberties of Europe.
* By what Impulfe, or what Infatuation, tbefe Aflertori
of Liberty, thefe Enemies of France, thefe Guardians of the
Balance of Power, were, on the fudden, prevailed on to declare
in Favour of^ the Power whom they had fo long thought it
their chief Iniereft and higheft Honour to oppofe. muft be
di'covered by Sigacity fuperior to mine. But, after fuch Per-
plexity of Councils, and fuch Flufluation of Condud, it U
necefTiry to enquire more particularly what are the prtfeK
Intentions of the Miniilry, what Alliances have been form-
ed, and whnt Conditions are required to'be fulfilled.
If
(447)
ir«f« an obliged oaiy to Support the Queen of Hungar}'
»ilb twelve tb&ufand M<a, we b»ve already performed our
EAgagcnKOU i if we have pramiled &ny pccuuiary Af&llance^
tae Sam which wc have MipuUced co furni(h ought to be de-
.':'cd i for I fuppoli* ai leail our Rogagemeais hxvc Ibine
iu, and that we src not to exert alt the Force of the Na-
, to fight ai ii Fire and Sword ivere at our Gatei, or an
' Innder wt^ie landing Armies upon our Coafls.
* I have. Sir. from aiy eailicA Vearj, been zealous for th«
Drieace xail EAilialion of the Houfc of AuHria, and fiull be
' far from propofing that any Danger or Diltrcfs Aionld
.;eiKc ui to defert it; but 1 do not ciUly difcovcr by what
Jkkani we Qiall be able to afibrd any cfScacioui Anjlhrl&ei
far the Power of BrJtaio conMs chiefly ia Naval Armaments,
which cat) be of very tittle Ufe to the Queen of Hungary, and
1 know aotaoy State that will ealil/ confeu to uaite ivith tu
M tKti OccaTion.
* If there be. Sir. any States rematniBg in Europe which
(te Ffcncb can neither intimidate nor bribe, we ought ftodi*
oqQj to (ollictte, and diligently lo cultivate their FrieadOiip,
bsl whether any, except the RulSaDs,are now independent.
:Ot fuSciently conf.dcQt of their own Strength to engage in
filcb a hazardous Alliance^ may be juIUy doubted.
The late grand Alliance, Sir, wa* fupporied at ibe Ex*
»of this N'Htion alone, nor was it required from the other
ifedcratr» to cxhault iheTreafiire of their Country in the
common Caufe i 1 hope the Debt which that War has entailed
upon at, win inl)ru4l us to be more frugal in our fiiiute En*
gagemea»,and tollipolaie only what wc may perform wiUi-
Cat involving the Nation in Mifery, which Viflurie* and
Triuniphs cannot compenfate.
The NeccQiiy, Sir, of public Oeconomy obligci me to
[iaCil, that before any Money fitall be gtaaied, an Account be
-laid before the Houfe in particular I'ertns, of the Ufes to
which it ii to b« applied. To aOc for Supplies in general
Termt, is to demand the Pawn of fqu^indeiing the Public
Money atPleafurc. and to claim, in (oner Language, nothing
lltU than dcfpotic Authority.
* It has not been unoommoo for Money granted by the
Hoafe la be fpcnt without prodncing any of thofe Elii*As
which were expelled from It, without iffilling our Allies, or
humbling our Enemies i and thertfore ihera ii Reifoii for
Ifllpeetiflg that Money baa fDtnetitnn been sflted for ooe Ufr*
ADO applied to another.
■ If our CoocuireticetSir, is nccrnary to increale hU Ma-
jcily*! Influence on the Conttncnr, to animitc the Kricndi of
|h* tiw^tc of AulUia, or to rcprefs tbc Dilluibcti of the pub-
Mr.H.Wtb
pole.
He TnnqnWity, I ftall willingly onice wlA themoii
Advocates for the Adminiflrau'on in aijr Vote of "
(ion or AffilUflce, not contnry to tbe A£l of Settl
important and well-concerted A£l, by which tbc fnkmi
nily were idvuccd to the Throne, *od by *hirk t: i
vided, that Britain ftull never b« iBrolvvid ia War f^i
EfilargemeDi or Protefiion of the DoiDiBteiM of
DomiaioLi from which we never expcQed nor ivcvindi
Benefit, and for which therefore nothing oo^ to be
fuffered or hazarded.
* If it fhoutd be again neccRary to form a CoeMcnV. I
and to unite the Powers of tLurope,againfl ibeHo<ric<
bon, that ambhioiu, that refllcfi Family, by which
po{e ofibe World is almofl every Day inrtmijxed, i
inceffantly labouring igatntl the Happinefa of hu
Itire, and fccking every Hour an Opportnalty of
croachment5, I declare. Sir, that I (hall not oaly, WTtb tit
greatefl Chcarfulncfj, bear my Share of the pabiic &ipn«
but endeavour to rvcoocile others to their not of the QtK
nrties of War. This, Sir, I have advioced, ia Coeiikm
that lufficieni Care fhall be taken, thai in aoy new AUt
we thall be Parties, sot Principah; chat the BxpcKtcf^
as the Advantage of ViAory. fhall be comnoe t *ti
Chafe who fhall aatte witbut, Will bttoar Attio, saci
MerceoaricJ.'
Mr. H. Walpole.
S I X,
' It i> not without Resroa that the hafUMrable*
toan delirea to be informed of the Supidaciooa coBBtari
the Treaty by which we hive engaged [o fitp^ori ihsf
matk SaDfiioa. for I find that he ciihcr sevar knew (*"
hu forgotton ihrm ; and therefore ihoft RcUmii
he hat lormed upoa then fall to the Grooad.
' Wc arc obliged. Sir, by this Treaty, to faff^f I
of Auftria with twelve Thoafand Meo, ati^ tlw ~
were engaged in it by oor Example, having praa
f\y of five iboufaod. ■This Force joined to ttwtt
which the large Dominion* of that Family eaibla
raifc, were fuScieni lo repel asy Eoeoy by whoM'
Right! thoold b« invaded.
■ Bat becaufe in Alain of foch Iniportutce
be left to hazard, bccaafe the Eqaipoiic of Po#tr,
the Ubertm of almoQ aQ Mankind, who eta adi I
free, mud be >clcoowtedged to depead, oofbriofev
crruin. than barcljr probable: (t n ftipoUtad brAcr,1
by Uk Dwh and ottrfclva, that if tbr SapfUa tfteid 1
f 449 )
theErfi Article ftitll appear inCglBcirnt, we tt^tll unite otir
Whole Force in the Delence of our Ally, and llm^gle once
more for Independence, with Ardour proportion'd to tbe
llnportince of oitr Caufe.
• By thefe Stipulations, Sir, ho Engigemenfi have been
fermed that can be imagined to have been prohibited hy the
AA ttf Settlement, b^ which it it provided, that the Houfe of
Haaorer Ihill not plunge thii Narinn into a War, for the
Ake of their foreign Dominions, without the Conftrnt of the
Farliainent ; for this War is hy no Mrans entered upon for
Ckc particular Secbriry of Hanover, but for the general Ad-
vmntagc of Europe, to reprefs the Ambition of the French;
md to preferte oorrelvCs and our PoOerity from the molV
sbjcCt Dependence upon a Nation exafpctated againll us by
kmg Oppofition, and hereditary Hatred.
• Nor is the Afl of Settlement only preferved urvjolated;
hf Reafon of the prefenc Alliance, but by the rcgu :r '. on-
Cnnence of the Pariiamen^ which hl< M-j'-Wy h - 'irfirt-i!,
JftKwiltaftanding his indubitable Right cf making Vc- c- i-d
War by his own Authority. I cannot thr-rcfoie im ij- e
tfpon what Pretence it can be urged that thr Lnw, \v::!cli rc>
^Mirei that no War ihall he made on AccniincofliielTan v-rr
I>tiiniBloni without the Coni'ent of the Parliament, is vv 'a-
Md, when it is evident that the War is mede up6n other Mo-
tires, and the CoRCurrer.c; of the P^riianicnt is iblemDly
dcfired.
• But fuch is the Malevolence with wh-cls the Condufl o^
the Adminillntlon Is examined, ;h t no Dt;;rce cf Ihtegritv
or Vigilar.ce cin ft-cure it from* Ccnfure. \V|icn in the pre
fent Queilion Truth r.nd Reafon are evidently on their Side^
Ekft Tranlkftions are rccjlicd to Memory, anil thnfe WtA'
rci are trentcJ with the utmo!^ i^egree of Contempt and
Ridicule, of which the grcatell Part of the rloufe have p-o-
iwbly forgotten il'>e Kcit'.n*, and o^ which the Autliors uf
ihcmdo not always ih-intl up in the Defv-rce, becaufe they are
weary of repeating Argnmenta to thofe who liUen with a Re-
foluiion never in be convinced.
• How well. Sir, ihyfeby whom ihe \!iniftry is oppofed,
JiaTe fuccefiicd in harc^ening their Minds againtt the force of
KeaJ'on, is evident from litelr c^rllint Cullom of appealing
Ircm the P.nr!iamert to tl.c People, and publifhtng in Pam-
phlets thofe .Arguments which ihry have found themfelvei in
tbiiAflemhly unabie tofopporci a Priflice which difcovera
rsltier an r'lflinate ReioUition to obftruft the Government,
ihan Zeal Tor the Profperity of their Country, and wh ch, to
fpealc it in the foftell Tcrmst feems to be fifg^cdrtl more by
the DefircofPopujaritv thin the Irf)ve cf'I'ruth.'
Vol. V!I. ' M m m Mr.
( 450)
Mr. Sindyi.
St 1.
r.tanJii. ' Norwichflaoding the Coctfidcncewith wKichcb:
Ku heca offered and dcrcndcd, nomuhttaDdisg iWff
Appcsraoce of Refpcfl lo hit Majefly. by whit* n h i
mended, I am do: aftiamed to dntare, ihu kftpfnn
inconfirten: wiih thc'l'rurt icpoTcd m lu by oaf C -*-
who owe their AllcfUnce lotheKtng of Gfttt
not to the Eit&tit ofHanovet.
• It will ^ urged, Sir, by (he People, wboa
to rcprefent, that ihey arc alrndy cmbirrsficd wtik
ciHiinCUd in a late War, froio which, sftcr ilw Hcpm>
of many Millions, and ihe Dcfttoflton of pflid^^ieai fcW^
xUfin. vhey rf«jved no Advantage; and that ihfy wri»
loftdcd with Tjxei for theropportof imxber.ofwfakibika?
pcrcrive no ProfpfA of my Mppy or JwMniibt* C4ab»-
lion, of either Security or Profit, ctthev Coaytiaw ii^*'
fals, aiHl that they ate therefore by do MetM wiltiif ••'■
ihfmrelvf t inrotvrd in any new Coofedcracy. by wbich ^
inaycnuti on their Pollcriiy the fame Ofclatitio. *od <hiy
ihtml'cWci to hazird their Forttntei aid ibclr H*pfin<6 *
Defence of dillant Couotrict, of whack many of ibcB t»n
fcarcely bciid.aad fiomwhich no Rtttttn of A M»mrt u n
peJlrd.*
Mr. K. Watpole.
Sir,
^Mr.H. Wd- * Thoogh it li Dot necrtiary to rtftite rrcry OTamy Aai
Ifob. Malice may inrcnt. or Cie<lutiiy ulmir. or to tnr«vrtlNArf
whom it tniy reafonably be eonceivrd th^i they do ootoA
their own lAccafntionv I will yrt rifi- once moreia Vitfitt-
not) of thcTfcity of ilanovYr, to (hew wrth how )kiI> 1t»
fon it it ctnfurcd, to tcptrh the Lctity of tnMt, uddl
Pride of unmioa.ib)c Triumph.
* 1*he Treaty of H»no»>«r. Sir, bow ka% bare it to
beea ridtculcd.and with w hate irer Coairmp tKoIr b^atei
it W3J i»cgoctatcd have bean trcatrd. wti wi>c aod pM. k
wa« juft, beaafe no Injury wai ttsientfed tu aoy Pevcf.a
Iflva^n was pUnnrd, ro Partition of Doatiaioin IbwdiuBt
noihiag but our owfl Sccorily dc5rTd It w«i wife, heoaic a
produciM the Kad propofed by it. and eflib&Qlcd That Smnty
which the AulUiani aad Spaaiudt »*rv cadctvonngs
dvllroy.
• The Emp«ror ofGenn^- " " ,. . .i ^
a frcrtt Treaty of Alliance »,
left vs dtfigocd thin the tctal iJciMii.oc cf Qia
( 45t )
dw DtininntioB of oor Comotrcr, the AliriMtion of oiii Do.
minion*, and ihr Sabvrrfioa of our Confliiutlbn. We were
fo htvc bean expcMcd rrom GUmliar. tied loully excluded
Sratn ilic MctJiierranean S:a5,thc Pietcnde: Was rofuvebcen
exalted to the Throne, rikI a otVf Religion, n jih the S'sverf
doc tlv-tyi Accomptniei it, to ham been ibtrcdaccd amongll
IB, tod Oilend wai to hive been m«de a Port, anj to bare
Aared the poor Kcouinft of oar Commerce to foreign Ni-
ticuu.
• Thii unjult, ihii miliciout CoDfrderacf wa* then op-
poitd with ihe utraoU VetierDencc by Prince tugtm, witof*
Courage and tnilitar)' Capacity are cclebraied through-
out the Worl(), iind whofe political AbiUiiei, and Knowledge
cf the Affain of Europe, wcic cqctj to hii Knowledge
df War, Me urged with great Force, tliai loch a Co<.fcJr.
rvcy would difuntre the Emperor forever from the Mari-
tiine i'nwrri. by which it had been fupporcrd. md u-hicb
Men engaged by ooc common Jnicrcft in the Proitiotian of
in Profperitf : But his RcmoaHrscces availed nottiing. and
tbc AlliifKc wai eoncludrd.
■ When ottr antieni AHin. vfho had been fo ofiert fuo-
ctrar'd with oor Ttearure, Jind defirodcd by cmr Armirs, had
CDlcrfd into fuch Engagemetiii ; when it wa* Bipulatcd not
«oly to iiiipov«i(b but enflsre cs f not only to w«k«ft ui
Abroad, but todcprtre ui of every domellic Com.'brt i whrn
» Scheme wii (brmeil that would have fprcad Mifery over the
whole Nmion, and have exierdrd iti Conrrijucncea to the
towcA Ordcri of ibe Community, it wai furely nccel&rj' to
fruflrate it by fome AlltalKC, acd with wbotD could wethfn
onitr, but with Frnnre.
• ihti i> not tlw only Fsfl on which Gentlemen have
VMlnred lo ffjcik with great Frcc<Jom wlrhouc fulScient In-
fonnilioni the ConcoA lif our A1Iie< in the late War haa
been ivo Uf» mifreprefenred than thatofogr Minitlers in their
NcgMiXioAt. Th*y hav^bccncSnr^d with impofing upoq
■t the wtiole Cxprnoe of the Confrderzc)', whea it may ba
prorcTJ. bryood Concrovcriy, that the aonual Cbtrge of the
i)utch wai live Miltiona.
• Not did they. Sir, only ccniribute annually (hu> largely
CO the cotnnmn Caule, but when we furtook the AJliance,
And fiiime^Uy ibaiwloncd the Adr-rtngci uc had g>infd,
K\vf rtceireil our Mercenarici into ihrii own Pa^, aad ex*
pendrd eiric Millions irt a fingle Year.
• Ortkt Truth of tbcfc AOcraoai it b cafy to produce
iHontc^bte F.viderce, which, however, annoc be ne.
crftJary to any Mao who ic4c^U, that rrom one ortliemoti
wealthy Nations io tlie World, rhc Oiitcb. with xW their
M m m 1 Com-
< *5tt )
CoTitnerfe. and all their P^rbtnocy. ar« itdond M
and Dillrttit] fur whocaniell bjr »>iiil Mcisi tbcxT
into Uicir prclrDi iow Conditiaa, U'tbcy fuScccd
the lite Ww !
• How ihU GrntlemaD. Sii. ba* b««s ileccivad.
whafe Iniinu.it>on* bit Ernxt are lobe impuwd. t ai
LaIs lodiicovcr; I hopr he wiHbjr tlm Coofjutioa be)
fji sgainll iniplicn Crcdw'ity.aod remember inihwfcrtl
tion that Man i» to be inilUd, wbofc peraicUxta Cooiol*!
Vfldjngercd IiJ» Country.'
Mr. Vyner.
Silt,
yi^et. ' It i). in my Opint(»ri, ao iocofiMlUblc Maxltt. dttl
Mcafureiittce:igiulc which uc aojolli aoc) t^lbcvcklt,!
fore any Reroliuimit are ftirmed, we oogbi to ejOMi
what Motives may be Juggeftcd by EzpediciKe.
A.'gumcou may be adyuctd by Equity oaooePjit
oihrr-
' Ifldo narmillttce tbe true J aitat q( the Aditth \
vtoyoit^t «f are invited lo dtcUtc thu wc will apf^iit
Kit'g ofPfuiih in hit AltempEtupan SilcHa, a I>ccljanba«r~
which J knmv tiui buw aoy Mao cancoocuri wkok*avi«
the NaiijiT of hit Llaim, and the Law» of the fiinpicc. It
oog^t llierefbft, Sir, to hate been the firH Endcavoiit oftbA
by t^bom tbi« AddrelJ has bees lu M»Ioully pnMM
fhew that h'n Cljim, (o publicly explained, fo nrmly
aho fo i!iaP2>y fupporced, ti wiiligut Kouodatioo in Joiicr'
in Rcjtron. sod i» only cat of ihufc imagtoary TiUo,«bud_
Ambition may alwayi find to the I>ctntoioai of anotl»cr.
• ^ii^ no fWmpt has yet bctn made towvdi ikt
fion ct this itnportint Qaclliao, ind ihcefoic I kihNf
how any Man cin c:ill upon ut la oppofe the Ki«g of Pf
when hii Cluira ituy probably be jull, ^nd, by C^ofe
fucba<. if it were rrcellary for m to engage ia tkc A(
Uiofc diQantGHintriei. we ovghi tajoia wuK hia iBi
Lord Gage.
S I a.
jr4 C^«. * Aa n« ^4eI^ber of this AlTembly ct» fcel a £mnr
free of Zeal for his MajcAy'i H'>nour thao myiclf, i
fh'lt Dioic RAdily coDCu; ia any fixpicSoe of Duty at Ai-
hciencc to him.
• But I ha.tc been alwayt CMfiiit chat AU^Uoec t« aiy
prince ii con(^riem with FiJality to r *^ tie la-
tticti, Ot the Ktn£ and the I'coiile .
.(\ a» iM
(453 )
ftae. and that lie only is a true Subjed of the Cretra, wb«
it^Bniy Promoter of the Happiners of the Nation.
'- « For th'u Reafbn I think it neceJ&ry to declare, that
BnoKr is always to be confiJered as a Sovereignty fepanite
from that of Great Britain, and as a Country >vith Laws and
iWndb diftind from ourt; and that it is the Doty of the
Kmicrentativei of this Nation, to take care that Intcrefti fo
Simiiml may never be' confounded, and that Great Britain
■a^ incur no Expence of which Hanovar alone cab enjoy
the Advantage.
f If the ElcAor of Hanover ihould be engaged in Warwith
ai7 of the Neighbouring Sovereign!, who (houldbe enabled
hf a Victory to enter into the Country, and carry thie Terrors
•f War through all fail Territories, it would by no Means be
MOefiry for this Nation to interpofe; for the £ltdor of
Ibnover might lofe his Dominions without any Difadvan-
tigBor Diflionoartothe King or People of Great ^itain.
The Addreft wai ajrreed iq witboot Divifion.
4 LIST
^ LIST 9f /be MzMBZKseffbr
ParliaoKnt ef GRBA T-B R I'l
from 1734/0 1741.
BEFOUD County. Sir RowruMi AIHw.
[a] spencer, Sir Roger Barjajrw.
BtJ/fr4. Sav.Onglc)'. Sir Jer. SartffnJCf,
SirBotcler ChiiiKrckc Birt.
BERKS Cmnty. Winch. Hcwaid pAckrr» WOBli
dud, P^Qjifioii Powney.
H'uUjar. hard Vcrc Bcauclrrdc Lon) Sidwey
RtaJmg. Rtrhtrr) (^}Po(irflgrr, /rf^, JohnBl<gm
GreyNevit, tS»d^ Wtlliun (<)Snode. joJta D
WalUil^iri. Thomti Towcn. WilliuM UikJu.
feph Townfend
Jkiiifitm. Robert Huclc3.
BUCKINGHAM Ctunty. Sir Thomw Lee, B*/:.
lia-O) Sunbopc. Kmif^bt ef th4 Bmti.
SytktKf^ham. George Dentan. Richard GmiTftle.
H'jxemb. Hurry Waller, Edmund (/) WaIIct,
Vernon, Knt
J^l'fimij, Cbrifiopbcr Towers, Sir George [i] (
Knt.
^mmi^m. Henr/ MirRul, TlMaM Lat«]
I'homaiGorc,
H'eiulrv r. JohD Hampden, John /y^ Bocekt, U
Limerick.
Marfytv. SirThomas Hobr, Bart. EdoiBiMl WU
CAMBRIDGE Ceuntj. Heary f^^ Bromley,
heard.
Caa^igtVntvtrfitj. HoB. Edward Fiach, H*
Townfend.
i^mhridgt 'Tnt.tt, Sir folin Hyod CottDe, Baft.
ScIsterfiacoB, Jtt^, GilbcriAfflcck.
CHESTER Ccmij. Lbar . Uiolmo«d«ky, JobaC
7"^». »mJ n-rt^rm, died. (/) /"^^ .r
(f\ /W EUdiu Ml ta tim. f») Ct
Momibr:. *'
{ 455')
\Ci^ Ciff. Si/ Robert Grofvcnor, Bvt. Sir Cfauks Zm-
borr. Bart.
\(X>Ryi^MLCntty. Sir Willum Cftrtw, But. Sifjob
Sc Aubia, Ban
U^mrfm^ Sir Willtim Morriee, Bart, fuha \p) Kid;, Sir
William («') Irby, Birt.
Ufatri Rkh. Etliot. Geo. DrnA». it//, Char. TrcUwMy.
itf<BMthiti. Rtchard Edgcutnbc, Phitip Llord, VW, M«t-
tliew Docie (') Morton, Sir Jotin Crori, Bart.
liv*. Robert Trcfufiv, Lrllond Courtrnay.
Jobn Laroche, Sir John Heathcote, B«rc.
John Evelyn, John Hirris.
Tbomki l^orber, Lord Glcnorchy, K B-
Sir Thomu Lyttclcon, Bart. Colonel Jain««
CbVroondelcy
i^^Mv. Edw. (/) THawney, Stm. HoWen, A*w; Henry
Lcggc. John («] Willcs, John {»] Strange.
[Crmmfomd. Thomas Male*, PJiilip HawkiDt, JitJ. Ckpt.
TlwaMi Trefofii.
^Zsfi^txi. Oarlei LoncuevilTe. JohnO«ren.
Frmwym. Sir Richard Mill. Bart. John Clavering.
^ttpmj. Henry Pentan, John Coddard, ^d. Sir Ri^ft
Oowio, Knt. Sti, Joseph Gulllon.
M^mfy Lord Vifc. Palmerdoa, Townrend Audivwi, £«J,
Hoa. Peregrine Poolei.
\ti- Ivti. Sir Rob. Rich, Bart. William Mackwonh Pnu^.
[iiem. JoMihsn RaOilrigh, John Hcdgei, JirJ, Wtlliain
S$. GirmaBt. Charles Montseu. Charlei Lord Baltiotore.
St. MieAmi. Robert Ord. Tbomai Waitt.
Himftet. Sir John Molcrworlh. Birt. Hon Tbomaa IJer-
bcn, /rV/, l-Ion Nicholii llcrlicrr.
Si- Mmvti, Henry V^nc, Richard Flummer.
jMUmfm I'hnmaaCoppIeAon, Itiuc l^hrup.
CVMBBRLA^D Cfunty. S,r James Uwthcr. Bart. SirJo-
fnh Peanington, Birt.
Oir^*Giy Hon. Charles Howard, John Hylton.
Qthrmm/h. Hoo. Wilfrid Uwibo. Bart. /m/. EldrcJ
Curwrn.
MkBrOmntf. Lord Clurlcs CaveediAi. Sir Nathuiil
Cuiaoo, Bart.
r&^i i;^ a Pttjtim {<) Sn«etJtd hh falbt^ mt f^'
Det^. {/) // Carnmi^BMT e/lht Cufltmi. (m) CflW-
mfffvttrtffrmdt. looo/. (»rj Made L»dCtt^ynJlii9
mf /W Ccwwn P//0>.
■f
( 456 )
Drriy. Lord Jinies CKVfcndi{h, Hon. Charles Sbnhope, £ti',
Hon. Johi^ Scanhope.
DEVON Commtj. Henry Rolle, Sir William CourtenA^. Bart.
iitd, John Bampfylde.
ExMttr, Thomas Ballc* Hon. John (m) King, Sir Hcuf .
Nortbcote, Bart.
^tntfs. SirCbarlesWiUs, X. ^. Jofepb DanTcn.
Pifmoutb. Arthur Stert, Hod. Robert («) By^ Gipc. Char.
Vanbrugh, JiiJ, Lord Henry ficauclcrck.
OakhamptcH. Thomas Pi:t. Wm. Northmotc, 4U^ George
Lyttelton.
"Barnflapli. Theophilui Fortdcue, Sir John Chichder^ Ban.
diti, JohoBaflet.
PljfnptoH, Thomas Qutterback, Rich.(^)EdBcaaBfac/Mw
Lord Edgcumbc.) The. Walker.
Hmitet, Sir William Ypnge. Bart. Sir William Cbuncnajr,
Bart.
Tavifiock. Sidney MeadowS) Hon. CharleaPaM.
Jfihurton. Sir Wm. (^)yonge, Bart. Thomas fitaden, Rogn
Tuckfield, died, Jofeph Taylor.
DartmoMih. George Treby, Walter Cary.
BerealfioM. John Brillowe, Sir Francis Henry Ditlcc, Bari.
died, Samuel Heathcote.
Titftrtw. Arthur ArTcott. Dudley Ryder^
DORSET County. Geo. Chaffin, fidmnnd Morton Pleydill.
Poelt. George Treochard, Ihomas Wyudham.
Dorchejier. John Browne, SirWm. (/^) Chappie, Knt. Robert
Browne.
Lyme Regis. Henley Holt Henley, JohnScrope.
Wtymaulh. Tho. Pearce, Edward (jj Tucker, John Olmiot.
Mihomh Regit. George Doddington^ George finbb (/) Dad-
dtng'on, John Tucker.
Bridport. William Bowles, So!omon Afliley.
Shnft/bary. Philip (»)BeDact, Stephen (^r) Fox, Jacob Banks,
difd, Philip Bcnnet.
IVareham. Henry Drax, |ohn Pitt.
Corfe Cajile. Joho Bond, John Banks.
(h) Succeeded /.'ij Fatlicmi Lord King. (0) MaACr
vrrwr y Barbadoej. (^1 Joint ^rtefurtr of Irclurfi
4000 /. Made hii EleSienf^r LtHwithie? tq) Madttii
Eie^'on fir lioniton. (r) Made cxe of the Jafittti if
the Kin^^i-Beyich. [t] Seal vacated, heing mtiJeSmmifir
'of his Miijefijs parries in ibe ijle e/?OTt\m^. (/) JI)M
his EUaion for Bridgivaccr. (b) A's/ d^ t'.eSli
{x) Crtiited Lord llchciiw a! tli Exj-hation cf thit Pi^&»-
menl.
DV?.HAIL
(457)
tVRHJM Ctntf. John Hcdwonb, George Bown.
D^rhikM Ciij. Hctiry Lunbtott, John Sbiliue
ESSEX Cantj. Sir Robert Abdy. Birt. Tlioina; BrsmSn*;
C$khtfitr. Matthew Mutin. IlAac Lemyng Retew, Jitd,
Jaojb Hoab!ofl.
1 JKiU!n. Colond Mtrttn Bladen, Henry Pardons, JitJ. Bea-
^UBio Keene.
S^r^-!<h. Hon. Charlei Snnhope. Ctnerct Leathet.
GLOUCESTER Ctmmly. Thoinai Chefler, Hod. BenjuatB
Bathitffi.
GhmafttrCitj. Hon. Benjsmio Batharft, Col. John Selwya.'
Ormcffifr. Thomu Miftcr. WJIiamfj) Wodchoufe» JitJ,
Bo*. Heery B^tburft.
ffwJ^/twry. Lord Vifcount Gage. Robert Tracy.
HEREFOJiD CeuMtf. Veiert Corncwa), Hoc. Edwkrd
Hwiey.
Uirtfird. THomu Foley, joD. Sir John Morgin, Bsrt.
Lmmimfiir. Sir George Cafwell, K<^Tt Harlcy.
Wti^H. Sir John Buckworth, fiArt. Jobo Birch. /iVi/» Cip(.
Jatne»(K) ComewaU.
BSHTFORD Csniy. William Plamroer, Sir T. Saua. Se»-
bright. Bin. /itd. Charlei Czftr, JltJ («J,
St. A&*mt. Sir Tho. Alton. Bin. Tho. AQiby.
Uutfiritv^tt. Nathaniel Brifley, Sir TKo. Clerlce, Kot.
HUNTISG70N Ceuwfj Rob. Piggal, Ld. Robert (£} Moo-
Ciga, Charlei CI rkc.
Ummtingten Ts^b, Hod. Edwud Wortlcj MOBUgOt, Col.
Handaf)>de.
KSyr County. Sir Edmrd Deriog, Barf. Lord Vane, ditJ,
Sir CbriAopher Powell, Birt.
Omtfr^mrj, Sir Wm. (c) Hardrels, Ban. Sir Thoinu Halo,
Aut. Thoinai {/} Broadnrux.
9m^/ttr. David Pslhill, Admiral Haddock.
kUidfiiu. Wm. HorCauodcn Turner, John Finch, JitJ,
Hon. Cipr. Roben FaiHax.
^•n^M^ifr. Rich. Evani, Sir Geo. Saiinden. Knt. iiU,
Lord Archibild Hamilton.
Lancaster Ceunty^ Ricb.ShuttUwortb, SirEdw.(i}Stu-
Ic7* Bare Peter Bold.
(y) Ch»/m^/»fif Norfolk.
^Irm; iitUrtd ^ ^iStd »iainp Mr. Birch.
(a) Ctt^minsf A Aftu
. ^ , , Birch. (fl) A'»
Writ fir a HTW Mmbfr. (*) SkemJtii hit Brtibtr mt Duii
(^Mancheilcr. (.-) NatimfytUaiJ (//) CW/</
luj A^««f ta M^ff ^« 'v Kwebi. f/} SuctudtJti Ear/
^l>crbr-
N fi II f r-^fa».
( 45n
prtjitm. Wchbli* Fawkerley, Sir flcflry H<
hiuieaftir. Sir Thimai LtiWfhpr, Birl Robrni
firvotvM. WiU>-ni Shipprn. E'qi Leg** Matter.
>^^ff. Earl of Birryniorc, Sir Rft^r Br«iaa%h, IM
CMitto Thomas Liltrr, William Lurxo*. ^
LEICESTER O'iin. Edw- Smidi. A mbrcfc PfcHip, 4j
^hrjceffr 7rn-«, Cirorgc Wrijkt, bir G«o. BenibOM, ■
i/i/J, Jimcs Wigey, ^
f^lKCOLS C<m>f!y. Robefr Vr*i<r. Sir T. L. (<) SarfM
— K.B. Thorn;.* Whitchcrt. ^
ItKoiHCiry. Hon. Charles Monfon. OtlaffifT 9Alb«|lLj|
.B«/m. Albem«TkB*nif. KK»iar<J PHtH.
i^tii^. Rc*wrt Knight. Sir Rcbcrl Sunon* ^. i.
Sfam/tra. William Nixt JohnProby.
Gramham Lortf T;rconrel, K. B. Sir MkteftI
Ban. A' B.
HlWDf.ESEXC^Mti. Wm PahHrtf . I'hM* f^.
Sir FninciiCtuM.'Km />./, Srr HflghSmttblilP,
■fTr/hinw/tr. Lo-*«.-^r,- c;., .- .(...i-. Wtpr, Si.
LttiJon. llutnp 'Oard, KM.
miS.MOVrU dMHty. i Mijor J(
bury, i»J, ChnlcsHar
pjrj- 1-1 1 [Mfiii,
Jl/e«(«w«/A 7i«<,'*(. Lor<i Churlci Noel Somerfet.
KtiRTOLKCmtff. S>r EiJmiini} r«; Bacoa. Bhrt.
Woiirhoufc, ^//rf Armir.r Wcvlfrboufe.
Mr^' ■ ^* -
ijnii ;■
Sir'.
Crtai ■
Hoo- Htfgcr i
VfttfirJ. Chat .
Aagullui I'ltircy
Cajlfr-Rifif^. Licnt firn. OisrTtt ChiBchin,
oiPt. ^t*/. Lord Vifcount Andorrr.
IHiaoi, B«rl ^/m'. Sir Edmund fflnn. Bar.
Ptmlma^. Edwaid WotUey, Amtcd pArkcr.
. Walltr Bkvb. £rJ. TW '
- I L»n»tr.
Sir Bam, (•> Bmoa. toft.
^/■j SMf. 'jthir at F<n'^*^Sttoifofd. ^^
•^Scsibonjugh fjj i>f/i( w M/u WVii. (Ill
(-459 )
UtttitimpitmTtvm. HoaottiyblcGMrgtCoaipwa. WtUitvi
Wilmer.
Sratiltj. Su?AulMcAttn,£.B.MJP.C. George Lei,
, I. LP, .
liigham-Ferrtri. Hon. John Finch.
ItORTiiUiiBERL^NO Cohmij. Sir Wm. Middlnqn* fiaq.
K3lpb(») Jconifon.
HfoKaftU Hfcm TjMi. Nicholas Ftnwick, Walter BUcket.
Mtrttth. Sir HeorjrLyddcl. Bart. H«o.Virc.(/) Morpeth,
neqry FurMfe.
BwiitJt. Xiord if) Polwartfa, Will-Wildnian Vik. Barrijig-
loa, George Lyddel, ^u/f, Tbomu Wufon.
IfOfTINGHJM CuuUy. William LeviDZ, jun. Tiio. Ben.
■et, 4'iVi. Hon. John MprdauQt.
N*tti^bcm ?iaw«. John PloDiptree, Borlace Warren.
B^Kiifird. Sir Robert Clifton. Bart. K. B. Johq White.
Kewark KptH ?>««/. James Felbam, Brigadier Gen. Suhod,
ir>/, liiord Wm. MaDDcri.
BXrORD CoMMty. Sir William Snpletov, Ban. ^wy, Henry
Perrot, tiiiJ^ Lord Vifcount Quarrendon, Sir John Dajh-
Wood. fiirt.
CfxftrJ Uai-ver/tiy, Lord Vifcount Corobury. GirorgeOark,
L.L.D. ditd, Wn. Bromley, /if/, Edw. Butler. L.UD.
Of^iCitf. Thoauu Rowcey, Matdicw^r) Skinner, James
Herbert, Hed^ Philip Herbert.
J^atJSaci. Hon. John Spencer, Jime^ Dawkin?.
Bamkury. Lont Vile. Wallingford, 4iU, Wiiliam Moore.
RUTLAND County. Hon. James Noet, Hon. Tho. Noel.
SALOP Cutniy. Sir John Aftley. Corbet Kyoatlon. VfV^,
Richard LyU^tr.
SmUp TowK. Sir Rich. Corbet, Bart. William Kynafton.
Briigtmrth. Tbo. Whitmore, Grey Jamet Grove,
ImJlovf. Henry Arthur Herbert. Kichard Herbert.
Crtat WtnJock. Wm. Forrcllcr, SaaucI Edwards, Brooke
Forreller.
Bi^'tCafiU. Robert Moore, Edward Kyqafton.
SOMERSET C^MMtj. Tho Straogewaya Horner, Sir Wm.
Wyndham, Ban. dhd, Tho. Prowfc.
BriJItl. Sir Abraham Elton. Bart. Tho. CoOer, ditd, Ed*.
Southwell.
Sttib. General George Wade, John Coddringioo.
(*) MMfiir^tbtBud-Hemndi. (f) SmetitM bii Faihrr
mt £«r/^Carlifli:. (f) Sucutdtd iis Father mt F.arl af
MarcdmoDt in Scotland. (r) Mait Cbitfjuftist ef
Ciieltcr. ^
N n n z If'elL,
( 46t> )
mih. TbonwJ M Wwuds. George \t) Hialkai, WSta |W
Pi"*, Ocorgf Spckf
Tammtn. Fnftcii Fanr, Hen. Willun PonaiU-
Bri^wattr. Geo. BuUi Doddirgcon. Tbo. Fakvt.
Sir Charles Wyndham, Birc.
Mhnhtait Fraaci) Wfaitwnnb, AIcKutdcr LanWil.<
William Codringwn, B»rt. Mt^, Tiwinii Ciroi,
Uchtptr Sir Robert Brows, Cr>arkl LvdcjiCr.
ifiitourrtPtri. Thomit \ied\jatt, MkA'cI Har*CT.
SOUTH JMPIONCMnty Urd Harrjr Powtrt. Eihi.;
Wtnih'fif Oeorg* Bndgc*. Powlcct Sc- John.
tmihamfianTwun. Sir William Hcithcotc, Bart.
(n Henley. J.)liD Condtiit. iiid Tbo. Le« Dttni
fortfmAuih FtiilipCave«dtfh, T -omu Lrwiti, ^m^
Su^ "t. Sfdt Adminl Edwird VcnMa.
r«r«t«'^ i'» th9 ip ^Wtgkt. Lord Harry (») Powko, Jb-
thony ^'hui«» Pau' Binr'ird, diti. Tboina* Urfilb«.
Frtenjstld Sir Wi i.mjoiliffc. Kni. Edward «*bo«.
HevL-porttKthilJUf/iF'igbt George Hucklejr, Wm. (»)1
tclcar, Lord Vilcuu"! Bofnc.
SiuihriJtt. Sir Humphrey MonROOX, Btrt. jakai
difJ John Berkrly.
Jie^t«v.'m James Worfley, Thomat Holno.
Chrijttbttreh. Edw. Hooper. Jof, Hiaiaus, ib^
Armand Powlett,
Z,<at^ren, Sir John Cope, Bart. MaaHce &ockl»D^.
ffhiifhu^ch, JohnSclywB, jun. Joka Coodoitt
Mordauni.
jtndrvtr. Wm. Guidott, Jobn PoDra.
SrjFFORD Cnntj. Hoa.Wm.LcvetoDGomr, 5^1
WagtUffBigoc. Bare.
UtthfitU. Geo. Venible* VeraoD, Sir Rowliad Hi
SuSm-dfatvH Hod. Wm.Cbctwjrnd, TboauFc
Jobr Lord Vircoum Cbctwynd.
Krwfcajtte un^ Ljiu. Hon. Bjpiia L«rdba Gower, jiis
Lawtoo, juo. JuJ, Handa) Wilbraban,
Tamrw9rth. Ld. John PhWip SacltViUc, Him. C. (jjQga^
ron. Charlti Com. W D.
SUFFOLK Cmnh. Sir Jermrn Divm, Bart. Sir
Kemp, Bart. JitJ, Sir Cordell Firebrtce. {Un.
Jfifwieh. Willurn Woolafloo. SamoH Kcat.
(i) Bttk vMti mi daly ikatd. (0 Mr ^1
if tit txebifur. f t) Mm^ ku EkSmi /m
■QOptOD.
(4«l )
ch. Sir GcaTf[e Down ng. Bart. K. B. Sif Orlu^
fa) BridgcmiD, Bart. Wm. Morden.
rj. Rico. Powyi, Lrwia Barlow, ^tJ, Briga. J«bn Cope,
tn^h. Wm Cosoll}-, Gto. Purvii. ditJ, Fran, tialhrf.
' ft^hcTf. Richard Price. Edward ^tcphenron.
Sfi. Hod. Brig. Siepb. Corawa'lit Hon. John Cornwallit.
tt Bdm^tidt Bury. Hon. Tiiomii Hervc)', Colonel Thoaui
\ .itO".
RtTCwntj. Hoa Akth. [«)Om9L0w, Tbe.Sawm.
JaBj^twMfi. Ibo. Inwcn, Geo. Hntticote
MiK^ngUr. Sir William Clayton, Kfndrtck ClajrttMi,
Jtjmmtf, Jamci Cocki, Jofeph Jekj'll. Kut. ^W, Joba
Ca^^ Hon Rich. Onllow, Has. Ricb. (A) Onflow, Hiw.
Dcnzii Onflow
GmUm. Paal Docminique, <////. Chirles Docmiotque, Wm.
Newbod. dUJ. G»rge Newland, L. L. D.
B*Mhirt. G<orge Oglethorpe, Peter BurrtJ.
SV5SBX Ctmnty. Hot). Hcflry Pclnatp, James BoUcr.
Ci^ttmfltr Jjincs Btudefi«l|, Thomas Yiitet.
Ht'^mm. Char EverificM, Hon. Hear; (r) riignm, Hos.
Cfavlcili'gram.
yUkmtfi. Tbomai Bootl«. BjI. Pcacbey Ktiight. Atd. Sir
Uirrrf^) Peachey, Kot. ditd^ Str John Pcacbcy, Baru
Lmut ThonuPclham, Tboaat Pejhaoi, (en. JitJ, Joba
T«»of.
HnaSiariiam. John (f) PbUlipfoo, Tho. FrCikrick, ^uj^
John Frrdcrick.
irmmitr. Sir Harry Cough, Bart. Harry Gough.
Ilnwi^. MarquiiCartiaiVan, Sir Rob. Fagg, Bart.
Hitch Yoiinge.
Ss/ GrinJttJ. £ftrl of Middlefcx, Edwtrd Conycn.
Jrmiht. Sir John Sbciley. Ban. Hon. John Lumlejr.
Gsrion Oiinc.
WjmWlCK Cmtt;. Sir Chirlea Mordauat, lUrt.
Edward Ditby.
OvtMtn- Sir AdolphuiOughton, Bart JitJ, john(/Jtitale,
JohnNeik, J"hn^|JBird. EarlofEuflon.
Jtst^inciTfvm. Tbomas Aicbcr, Hcar/Arcb<r.
/iiJ,
Hoa.
(c) MaJi Gfivmnr t/ Bartiadoet. [a) Sftairr if tit
Hs»ft tkif and tht Ufi pMrUmm*ml. (k) Smfntdtd hu Fa.
*ir M LtrJ Onflow. (r) SueeifM th Brlbrr at Vif-
ciMf Inarm \m Scotland. \i\ Crtttd* Baronet, iht4.
{4) Mmdi^Qummi^tmtt^tbtfimvy, amdfl'tU/m. (/) Vtid
£.Uaim. (i) Had* a Ctmmijttn/r tf tbi Stamf Ogi^*.
wiiroo.
jfyMlh. Sir John RunfiJcn, Bart, WaliM fimma
WILTS Cmmij. John Ivory TjUboi. John (/) H*
UrMSarum. Pcicr Bathull, H«nry Hotn,
Wihm. Hon. Robert Herbert, tloa. Wn. Hotwt
iVit-«nui- A&(boDy I>uncorobc, Tolcpb Wy«ikua,
HinJn, George Fox, Sccpben (Zj Vttx, HntTT t
Hn'J^- Bdwrwd Aflic. Pieit* A'Coorr.
Wtfibury. Hon. George EvtDi. JoliQBtncc,
CaUr. Walter Hungcifoid. WilliiiB Docker.
Drvi^t. FriW<vEx)e«, &ir Jol«ph Eyin. lUt. i
Ganb.
Ckif^nUm. Ricbud Long. Roger (rl HalUn), U
ton Roll.
MMimfii^. Giki E«il«. WJilUaEUivliAfbaEtfl
CmkUJt. Str I'faonu Rctdc. but. WilitACi
Chirles Gor«.
Cnai BtJ^^jm. William Slopcr. B-obcn Martif.
ward Popbim.
lat^i'jMi. Dioiel Boone. Pcipr Oelmc.
OUSumm. Wm.Piti. Tho (^i Pti;. Kobm Ni
WittvtBafti. Sir Robert Loog, Kirt. Ntcbol«(0
Mfu-Uiarv^b. Frucu ScjrBuwr, E^Jmrtl («} U
Crawley.
JTORCESTER Caaiy. Edm. Lrchmcre, SU Vk
packingioD, Ban.
Wi/fctfitrCitf. Samuel Saik)}-!. Ricbird Ixdci»«i
Drnfivut. Tbonai Wmntugton, t^'*'- r' f-'i^y.
£«i^««. Sir jDbnRuOi:)ut, Btn, W {-^j
BrwMtj. Wnliam (•jBowiei. Phip,e:i> quw,«».
rDXATCoM/v. Sir MilciSiapy lion. Bvt. Obi
r«'iai». SirJobnUHrrKay. tUtt. Gdmid Tl
Kii^m tifan Hull Gecrgc Cio*'*, Htory ]
Ka^Jhnxk Hon. Ricbard ArModfl, Su H«n
Scxrinmfh. Williara Tbomploo, Sir WtUai
Bart. </W. Lord Vt(ceu« if} Onpplio, W
bald i Aon.
fr] Crrc/ryZ^/Chedwonh. [A] Hf^AI
>- SkaftfbMV. (i) i£>iV a Wckh 7.^^
isfj £/:rAM /ir OtkbanptM. </) C^«>y
^riiw £«i^Aif . (h) AO.^ bit Eitaimji>\
(«j /);r^{ mtwHntiJmt^. {*) Uu>Au
Bridport. (^; S« y ifir £«•/ ^ A',-*---
C 463 )
\Jt^m. Willnm Aiikbic, ThomsE Duncomfie.
Xk^mm^. SirCofiftnDMrrr. iC. S. Joba Yotke.
MjirtM. -tirfjanciiBojrTiton, Han. Gtorgc Beikekjr. ..^
ii'm%h bridge. Lieut- Gen. Jnmes Tyircl, Geo. Gi<gor$'.
\Haitm. S:r William VV«ntWDrtb, Bin. Hon. Uwty Finch.
ffikr/f. Sir Thom^i t'tanklatiH, Ban. Predtrck FruikliDd.
\jiAtnt^y John J<rwkfs. Andrew Willfjnioo.
\Semtriij. £!lcrker Bradfhaw, SirChkr. Hottumi Ban. JiiJ,
CbarUf Pelhim.
^ Hmtb AlUrtim. Ha)r7 Pciric, Uoura Sawk, ^K waiam
Smelt
ft»u/,»a, L^ GaIlaivay»lSifWiU]anLoMtI)<r. Bart.
C I M ^U E PORTS,
fMhfi. Sk WiUiun AOiborabani, But. Thorns Pel-
lun, jut).
Z)«wr. David Papillon, ThOiDBt Rrretl.
S*M/^vith. Sir Ge«r|< Oxenrfcn, Bart. Jofiak Bttrchnt.
Hi*t^. HcKutci BAktfr, WiUtamGIacrilk.
fhmt Jttimmy. Stephen Bitlc. Dtvtd (f)PBpHIoa, Sir Robett
A0AM, Bvt.
i Jljf. Sir John Norrif. Knt. f. C. Philfpt Gybbeo.
WimihtL'ta, Robert Briilow, Rdtnund Hongate Btaghaa.
U^firi. StrWm. Gitge. Bart. iCf. Wm. Hay.
W A L E S,
A^Ujtm. Nicholas Balay.
itmammrh Lord Vifooaot Bulkdef, jScVJ; Lord VKcoont
fojBulkeley.
BXBCOS C—aii. Joba {rfirrics.
^rfrtw Ti^t** . J ohfl <i) Talbot.
CJKPIGAN SJfirt. Wilier Lloyd.
CatjWm TipiM. Ricbird Lloyd.
CifinfiARy^SCmity. John GriStb, d7ri, JofaaWynn.
CmttKanMn T«t.-»i. Thomas Wynne.
DENBIGH Cumt,. Sir Wat. Willkni Wynne. Bin.
Onhigb 7r.vM. John Middlcioo.
fLIKTCtuntf. Sir Thomas MoRyo, Bin
MifTnm Sir George Wyirnc, Barr.
GlJMORGANCoiHtty. Hoi>.Wm.(/)T»lb«, BuflyMtaWI.
fnmfr Ufi. \i) iudi * Welch y^"^* «*''* fV-
,(0 imt*i*4hi$ tat^tr M Uri Talbot.
(464)
C0^tf^ Herbert (ii)Wrrdfor. HerbcfSl
MKRiONETHCtmMty. WiUnm ViagLM.
aOSTGOMBItrCminy. Hob. Price («}OnMii. I
Wiiliimt.
JAaAtfMrir Trow. WHIUm Corbet.
FBMBRQKR CM>rfr. jo>>n (,) CiapbrU.
Ftmltraltt T»vm. Witlnro Owe*.
Ba-vrrjird Wtft Str Enrmui Pli)tip», But.
RADh'OR CmhTj. Sir Hucbpbry Howartib. Ktt.
J&w Xadmr. I homai LcWit.
SCOTLjIND.
$hirt »f ABERDEEN. Sir AithurFofbef, Kk. «•<
ShirtofAIR. Jimci Campbell.
Shirt ^fARCTLE. Str Jkmci («) CuspbeU, B^rL C4
Charles Campbell.
Sbirr^ BAMF James Abeicrorabie.
Shift «f BERWICK Al<x Hume CKnpfaeO.
Shfrte/ BUTEtn,dCj^HHES5. Bng FtmCm^
SkirttfCLACKMANNylNanJKtSROSS. JtamErt
Shin ^C ROM A R7IE and NAIRN. Job* {«J
Alex. Brodie, ^ Utiham.
Shirt ^ DUMFRIES. Clurln(j} Arefluat.
^£/rv tTDUKBARTOH. Col. Ctiaria CimpM.
f A/rf «/- EDISBURCH. Kobm {^j DumUa, &r
Gilmour. Bart,
5Ai« tf ELGIN. Alex. Brodie. tfSrtdi*.
Shirt tf FIFE Sir John Aoftrmbcr, Bait.
SAnv y FORFAR. Hoa. Tbooua (/) LfM,
Witlum Maule.
Shrr, fif HADDINGTON. John Cockboort.
S&ire »/ INrERNESS. Sir jtmci Gf»Bl, Bart.
ShittffKlNCARDIN. John FaJcoiur.
**/« »/- KIRCUDBRIGHT. P*trkk Hero*
Shirt »/ LANE RK. Lord Wm. HamiUoa, WiM; Br
HamtUon, Hart.
Shirt tf LIN LtTHGOiF. Akxaodcr Hamfltoiu
fit] SKettdtdttthtT'itlf^nfi.V/itdioi (triflt.)
Motitjoy (Eoglilh.} fx^ SmcettdiAhiiF^htraii
Hereford. t») a/«^/ s l^J ^ th, Maur^
,4ht/tm. (rj AfttjV *(j Ehahttftt StirlmgSure. (i
• ill BUam/tr Pcnbrckc. (^ Ki^tjSAtm^t, \
£ar/«^S[n[hniorc. '
(465)
Wn^ORXNtramiZE^LAND, Col. Robert DoocUft.
Uin^PEBBlSS. SirJaneiNtrmith; '
MUrtafPinra. LoH John Mumy.
9hirt If RENFREW. Alenoder Cunniagbam.
SSirt^ROSS. HughRofe.
S^in 0/ ROXBURGH. John Ratherfbnl.
ZImfrf SELKIRK. JubDMarray.
thirt 9/ S7ERLING. Sir James Umpbell.
Uirg of SUTHERLAND. James Saint CWr.
SUn tffriGroWN. Hon. William Dalrymple.
JtOTAL BURGHS «/ SCOTLAND,
E£wghmr9b. Patrick Lindlay.
JSriwaS, Wuht Taint, Din^tuall. Sir Rob Manro, Bart.
Rrtr$£i, Jtevtmtffi, Nairnt, &c. DuQOtn (r) Forbes, Daor-
canUrquhart.
jr^P** Cuilim, Bamff, Sec. William Steuart.
Jneiine, jfitrdtnt, Mentroji, &c. John MiddletOD, Jiti,
John Maule.
$trfiut Perth, Dundtt, tec. John Drnmmond.
Crmily jbifirutbtr, Pittimutem. Mij. Geo Philip (/) An-
• ■ ftrnlher.
Xsaghtm, Djftrt, KirkaUie, tec. Thoma Uflie.
imtrBlben, Callrtfi, Stirling^ tec. Capt Peier Hallcet.
HmtitrgUx, Glafivw, Rtnfrtnu^ Uunbttrto*. Wm. Campbell.
SaUdrk, Peehles, LantrA. Hon. J.mes Carnichael.
h^MngtoH, Dunbar, Jt&wrgb. Jimei Pall.
Dma^riu, Kirkcudbright. Lhar (^) Arefltine, Wm. (A)Kirk-
pj trick. Sir Robert Laurie. Birt
l^ttnun, Nfw Ga//rway, &c. Col. Jnmei (/)Steaart.
Sbttbefaj, Air, /r<u;iji, Im/trary. Co). James (i) Steuait.
(«) Madt Lord Prrfidtnt. {/) Lituttnant-Covemar
of Minorca, and CaUniil of a Rtgimtnt tf FfOl, lOOO/.
(£) Madtbh EUaianfor the Shirt of Dumfries. (A) 'Modi
mifftbt fritttipai Clerks tftbe Sejim, (0 Q/'Baiilieabir.
(0 <yrorrence.
Ooo INDEX.
INDEX
OF TH B
Names of the feveral Speakcn
I N TH B
SEVENTH volume:
'QALTIMORE, Lord ViiiDQaai, 19a, 301, 907,
JP ia6, 366, 391.
Ilsrnard, Sir John, 22, 23, 53, 87, 168, ilo, tft,
JOS, »io, «t5, ii4, ii7j «j7, HS *6g^ «^.
j86. 292, »9j, 50^^ jof, 346, 357, 577» jt^
Bunngton, Lord Vitcount, j::.
Bsthorft ^, 158, »;3. zSA.
BUdco, MarUOj 107.
Bowlci, William, S4$.
Brown, Johp, 234.
Burref, fewr, 187, 34.$.
C.
Cmpbell, , 14, X4, J,, j», ,59, J06. 3Jt
C»itw, J<itin. 384, 3««.
Clooeroijck, Tbonai^ 41, 55, 441.
Cock5, Jime^j 378.
Cbcutt, Sir Joan Hind, sjov 433<
Cornwal'^ J*mf% 2j«, «28.
Corowill, V<lKn, 38s, 386.
D.
Oigby, EJfnrd, 309, 310.
B,
Earlr, Gylei. 344.
^ ■' '^Mh^y^ the Names €f tie Speahrs,
wdOatlr, NWieh^ 179* 35«»
An; Hewy, 165, »66, jog, 444.
G.
GuM^ LordVUbMnt, sii, 2s8, 258, 3x1, 36s, 391.
GAob, Phaip, 49, 138, 369. -.« *
Gois , ao5, 587.
Ht
Hudafyde, Roger, 381.
Htfkf, Rofatrt^ 100, I40>
Bir> wiiiiMi, 174, 306, 311.
Howe, John, {L§rdCbeA«onh) to, zo.
L.
LyteelUMi, George, 254. 256, 285.
Lockwood, Rkhan), 267.
• N.
Norrii, Sir Joha, 4;, 202, 204.
O.
Ord^ Robert, 26.
.Onflow, Aruuir,. (Spealcer) 216, 393, 299, 305.
P.
Fk, William, 46, 271, 282, 283.
Paltcney, William, {mw Eario/Oith) l6, 17, 31, 44, 46,
101, 174, 214. 250, 244, 301, 32fi, 354, 378, 408,
446.
PelhtiD, Henfy, 47, 59, 60, 78, 149, 212. 229, 239, zSt
188, 289, 293, 299, 324, 342, 355, 357, 371. 382.
Perry, Micajib, 277.
R.
Jlider, Mr. Attorney Gcitert], 25, 2o8» 234, 280, 298.
S.
Stodyi, Samoe), (mto Chmcttkrtftbi Exchequer] 13, 15,
»8, »9. 32, A^ 65. »»7, »o6, 752, «97, 298, 343, 359,
362, 363, 366.
Skmthwell, Edward, 183, 21;, 254,
Shippen, Williun, 319.
T.
Tjricotme), LordVifcoant, 360.
Thompfoa, Edward, 12.
Tncy, R(^rt, 208, 259.
V.
Vfwat Robert, 227, 228, 235, 261, 321.
W.
Wadr, Geaeral, 205, 378.
O o 0 2 ^^V^t
In^x of the Names of the Bpeahrt*
Wiger.'SirChtrlei, lOi^ 238, »53. 269, 30^ 910^ 3
393'
Waller Edmand, 39, C^>
Walpok, Sir Robert, 16, 31, jt, 46, \^^ 189, 21 j, j
233, 250, 265, 267, 275, »9*, 294, 305, 316, 3
33'. 338, 349. 359-
Walpqk, Horatio. 43, 51, 196, 203, 242, 281, 448.
WinofRgton, Thomii, 14, 23, 57, 192, 211, 213, t
232, 241, 283, 284, 305, 376.
y.
yonge SirWilliun, 16, 21, 14, 30, 123, 136, 198, s
»^i> *40. ^55, 257, 27«, 303, 305, 365, 368, a
J87, 39°* 400,
f J N 1 9>
Mr Sjxakcr,
IL'aniiot content ipyfctrin the great Qurflion now before A-.n*i.
you, to deliver my Opinion buvly by voting in it i for
' jSink it of ihjt Importance to the Nation, to dcfervc and
'^vcd the moll thoi'ough ExaniinatioD. 1 heoitily wiili it
*T)ight have ha(\ a much longer Time af Confidcmiion, than
I perceive Gentlemen are difpofcd to give it ; but lince we
=»-«r catered on the Debate of it. I fliall endeavour to exprefi
«tiy Thoughts about it with great PJainneft and Freedom.
' My prefenc Opinion, Sir, according to tlie bdl tudg-
Cncsi 1 am able la form. Is, That if wc |}ioaId give our
^^nfent to the Patfing of the Bill before u& into a Law. we
IhouJd be guilty of the moA notorious Breach of the 'I'rull
repofed in us. bv thofc who fcnt uj hither, and fhoaU make
a very dangerous Step towards iJte Undermining of that
Conllitiition, which «<ur Anceflon have bci-n lb airrrful to
Iprefcr^T. and tiicught no Rxpcncc, cither of filood or Trea-
liut, loo much for that Furpofe. snd under which n-e do
yet enjoy ihofe PriviicgK, and A':^-'f< :■••■-■, which no ochftf
Nation in the World can it this \ of.
* Thti 19 the Light in which lh m.. tri appcan to me ;
and therefore if I did believe whailomc (iendcniea do, Tiat
it would be conducive to (evci.il good Endi, yet that would
not be faffidcnt to giin my Cocilitit thereto ; (or I canrust
think thofc End:, hauever defir-iblc, equn-aJcnt to foch ■
Price, as that of giving up, nr even of Trn-'ng a d,;ngcToui
Advince toft-ards the giving up cntii' '-itiili Conlti-
tnlioii. Much led wgutd I give my v ■ loch itLaw,
when i am o/ Opinion, That it would be (b fnr liruin con-
tribating \q the Ecdi precended to be a fired ac thereby.
tbsth trvahi Juve the dirtA cotUnry Effeft; Kwi'A ■*<
z ADDS ND A to tkt Vii.i,r Voltue.
are not to do Evil that Good may come of it, furdj we
mud not do Evil, only to bring Mifchicf upon onrfelKS.
* Thefe are my Rezfons agiinft the Bill, TbiC oar Cdb-
fent to it would be a Bre^ of Trufi, and s dangerous
Breach upon our Conltitutitm ; and that, if it wen not lia-
ble to this Obje^on, That yet it would fove to Pozpofes
dire£Uy contrary to thofc pretended to be aimed », by Gen-
t^emen who are for the Bill ; I ihall endeavour 10 czpUa
myfelf in theTe Points.
' Give me Leave therefore to mention, what appears to
me to have been the ancient ConlUtutioo of' ParUameiit, and
alfo how ihe fame has been, and Itands changed at this
Time, with Relation to the Matter which is now the Sub-
je^ of our Debate. I believe it will, nay, it mnll be
agreed, That before the Reign of Henry VIII. there was
no fingle Inftance of a Prorogation of Parliament : That
Parliaments had only one Seflion, and thofe generally very
ibort ones, none of which ever lai^ a Year : That to pre-
vent the Milchief of long Intervals of Parliament, it wis
ena^d in the fourth Year of Fdward III. That ParliamciRs
fhould be holden annually, and this was confirmed by fufafe-
quent A^ of Parliament: And therefore I may venture to
xuBirm, That by the ancient Conllitution, Parliaments were
to be holden frequently, and to be of the Continuance only
of one SelTion, and that there was no Right or PoH'er in dw
Crown to prorogue tlie fame : I fay, this I can aflina, on
the fame Foundation, nnd with as (Irong Reafon, as I can
affirm. That the cldcll Son, after the Death of his Father,
fhall inherit, as Heir at Law, the Lands in Fee-Simple ; or
that ttie youngcA Son Ihall inherit, where the Cuftom of
Borough- Engl ilh prevails ; or that all the Sons fhall equally
inherit the Lands of Gavel-Kind ; or, indeed, as I caa .
rlHrm of any Fart of the common Law, or the particular ^
Ufagcs of the Kingdom ; for thefe arc fupported only by"«
conltant Praiflice and Prefcription immemorial ; and th^^^
neither need nor can have a fb-onger Support than this ; fesrr
furcly of all Laws, thofe mull be allowed to carry with thei^fc-
the llrongcfl Evidence of Jullice, which have been alwi> — i
fubmittcd to, without any Change or Alteration.
' The Application is obvious to the Point in Debate, !7
mean as far as the Reign of Henry VIII. And if at th^c
I'ime this was the L'onllilution of Parliament, it viill
tiot be eafy to fhew how the fame has been llnce legally
changed ; but 1 fhall fpeak to this more fiilly, after I hwkVe
anfwcred an Objeflion which has been made.' It has been
faid, ' That rt k uo Vtoof that the Crown had no Power
* to prorcguc Ta.Aw.mcu'B, scniiva wiiiwcws. "QaR. Sass«.?u£u-
• mem for fevciaV ^ttt\QT\s aJA^ajM-i^ \Vw^l'»l«t■w»^s&BitfK.
W jfDDE ND4 ft r^PiX3TVQt.vHB. .)
* th*reof until ihc Reign of Henry VUf * IF thu
Objeftioo has anj' Wdght. it wtU ctjuall}' hold againil aay
odier Part of ibe oommon Law, which hath biiheno rc-
tngjuH usconieftird : for nay doc the jfoungcr Sons, ip
thu V/ay of Rcafoniitg, iky. That althou^ there be no
I' 1 .' !-, that tny of than ha.vc hitherto claimeii to inherit,
with the Eldcft, the Lands in fee Simple, that yet
LIl:- i.i no Proof againll their Right of nulung fuch a ClBim,
and hnving it dctrnnmcd l^tr ihcm. And if fuch a Cafe
flwcld be brought into Wcllminltcr-Hall, it is evident, that
there u eo Aft of Parliament whi<:h fettles the Point, nor
any preceding Rcfohition, bccaufc the Mactcr was never ia
^QclUoQ before i and yet fuiely do Gentlcmnn vvtll iffirm,
that the Judges would be at iJbcrty to determtne this as a
I new Ofc, u-hatcver Equity they loight conceive in the Pre-
H taGana of the younger Sons, but would be tlrii^y tied to
|V adjudge according to the conllant and uninterrupted Ufage.
Abd had the Lords aud Coinntoic, when the fifjl Attempt
of proroguing wa-t made upon tlieiu. infilled. That the
Cnnrn had no fuch Power, and the Opinion of the Judges
kkd been required UicreiOf it wai impoilibJe that they could
Kave dctcnnined otherwife, thiin according to the coiiltant
Uijge, or that ttiey would have adjudged fuch an original
Power in the Crown, which luil never been exerted, from
^ carlieQ Mention which our Recordi, or Hi dory, nuke
of Pariiamcnts, to thai very D.iy ; or that they coald have
CQDceivcd it pnJDble, that thr Crown could luve lud fucb a
/^wcr, and yet nercr hare ailertcd ic in one fingle InfUoce,
U the Courfe of fo maiiy huiidrcd Vcars.
' If the i'iih I have meouuned are. as they appear to
^K u> be^ uiuleniably true, the lofeieQCC I thence nuke is
4WZI to a DemonAraiion t and I may ventLire to add, That
^teic i> no Part of our Laws built on a more foUd Founda-
_ tXMi, and fupported with iLronger Reafons ; Reafbns which
■ nuil eternally hare the greateft Weight, and make the
B det))cfl ImptcSipa, on the Minds of a People, who have any
■ Saae of Liberty : And, TltankA be to God f wc are yet a
Fter ' ' Fof without the Fre*iuency of Parliamcmi.
die I ly of Redreifing iholc Griovanco would be
lofl, vhiai more or left have Knppcncd m all Reigm, from
iH* ImloriKf- And Adminillration of evil Counli:llon, and
who will always prefer their own private
■-r Views, to the Honour of their Prince.
U-: '•' lUft of their Country : And it it to the Dread wliich
ju<.h LI. [ ious Monllcn hare always had, and I hope will ever
of the juil Vengeance of a Parliament, that wc hi-
3 owe the Prcferration of our Liberties : fur, had the
ruOM of being olied to an Account in ParUaincnt been u
a z
*ni
4 JDD E ND^ to thViKiT Volume.
Aniu t. cn. I. any confideiable Difbnce, the Attempts of bdd and diria^
1^*^ . Men would have had no Curb ; and indeed it is bat oae Stn
more, and that not difficult, from a long n the entire Difau
of Parliaments, and refolving the GoveminenC mto an ab-
fdate Monarchy ; but I will urge this Point no ftftfaer^ be-
caufe I belies it will be generally allowed i and that, wliai-
ever might be the private Opinion of any particular Perfon,
no Briton will be yet fo hardy, as to declare himfidf ;^unft
the Neceflity of frequent Parliaments.
' I wiib Gentlemen would as eenerally concur, that the
other Part which 1 hare mcntionecH and I thinlE luve made
appear, to have been our ancient ConllitutioD, were as ab-
folutely neceflary to the Prefeivation of our Liberties; I
mean Parliaments of one Seflion, not only freqaent, but
frequent New Parliaments. The Tiling indeed a.ffcui very
evident to me ; fo evident, that i:' m/ poor Opinun, our
Liberties would rot be more, n:ij , not lo precanoui under
an abfolute Monarch, as with a Houfe of Comnunu who
had Right to fit either for many Yean together, or
without any Limitation of Time : For *tis certain, that a
Prince, who had flood only on the Bottom of his own abb-
late Authority, alMed with a few Miniflers and fome Tram:,
would ftill think himfclf pretty much upon his good Beha-
viour towards the united Body of his People ; and wouUa
probably, be cautious of exerting his Power in fuch a Man-
ner, as to give a juft Provocation to a general Revolt, and
fetting up another in bis Stead ; but a Prince, with a Par-
liament at his Devotion, would be infinitely more terrible-^
and, with much greater Security, might give a Loofe ic^^
every Extravagancy of Power ; for when the Reprelentarive-^^
of the Peaple, who are chofcn by them to be the Gnav-.
dians of their Liberties, can be prevailed on, for little Ad-
vantages to thcmfelves, to betray their TruH, and come in^o
alt the Meafurcs of a defigning Miniflry, 'tis then, indeed,
that the Liberties of a People are in the moft imminent
Danger ; and furely, there is great Reafon to apprehend
that 3 Houfe of Commons might foon become %'ery lAk-
quious to a Minificr, if they were to £t for a long P^
riod, or without Limitation, and that there were no oar
D:iy in View of a new Election, when the Condud of i
Gentlemen in this Place, would be inquired into, in tlwir •
rtfpfdlivr Countries.
* I believe it will not be denied, That 'tis very poffble
for a Miiiillry, by Penfions and Imployments to fome, and
by the Kxpeflations rniftd in others, and by the Comption
of Kicftors. and rtturning Officers, to obtain a very peat
M.'.jority, entirely and blindly at their Devotion, even at
t'ac very till Mwun^ of a Parliament, and that by a Com-
JDDE N DA to tht FirsT Votvut.
of EleAions iind other proper Help5, their Party may *n«»».ot*.l.
incrcafc ; ud that foch a PartiamcDC may be To far
protrfltQg (he Libcttics of their Couotrj-, or from be-
Terror to Evil MiniHen. as to become thcmfclvcs the
Tools of OpptcfBon in the tiand of fuch a Mini^b)', and by
tltetr Aotbority, to canfecratc the wotA of A^otis, to de*
^arr every honcil Patriot, who ha» the Courage to attempt
CO fiem the Tide of Wickednefs, and to Hand up for (he
Liberties of his Country, to be its grcacdi Enemy : and
dwfe wl 0 arc ready to ghr it up, to be the only tiue Friends
of oar Cofiftitution; and if this 0iould ever happen to be
ouj C-fc, I beg Gentlemen to confider, Whether i greater
Cttrfe conid fall ott any People tbaa to have fuch a Pulia-
ifieni at This entailed npoo them,
* I remember very well, what an Outcry was raited
agii&ft the lall Parliament, on Sulpicion only, that a Re*
pnl of the Tritnnial A^i was intended, and the Arguments
•pint it without Doots, wcie then the very fame with
me which are now urged againd it within : What an in-
_ (snUxncy mull it then appear, to fee thofc very Gcntlc-
^B>n, who were then the moll zealous Oppofers of fuch an
^■.Atfmpt, become now the moll violent Advocates for it ?
^T'^ will it not alfo in fame Meafure affcQ their Integnt}',
Fpiblklcif to own, that the Arguments they pretended to be
(IWn influenced by, had not the leaft Weight with them :
^'idthac the Thing in itfelf was very defirablc, when there
^tedU be a good Minitlry and Parliament in Being, and
l^vnucious only in the then Situation of Alfain ? It was not
^^enainly from this Confideracion, that the late Minifiry and
^'arliaiiKat were diverted from the Attempt : They, doubt*
^df, had a very good Opinion of themlelvct, and were con-
ftrawd therein by the Voice of a great Majority of the
^oofje. and whicn, by a moA ftrange and unaccounublc
"Witchcr.ift, dill continue* in their Favour i if 1 may de-
pend upon what fcvcral who have argued (or the Bill fccm
Id have agrrcd [o-
' I mijfl beg Genitemen to confider, that the MJfchief
I have mentioned, will be no wayi prevc:]ted by the prcfenc
Pofture of our AfBiin ; for cho* n-e xmy have now a good
Minidry and Parlbmcnt, their Contmoance, not«-ith landing
liie intended Law, will lUll depend on the PIcafuie nf the
hmax hir I do not pcrceh*e that any Gentlemim will
Miovc for a Claufe.to eontinuc the Minitlry for Life; or
tkax the Parliament Hull not be diflblred withnot their
Q*ni Confcnii i and if, by ill AdrJce to his Majefly, a
Change fhould happcti, may it not To fallout, that along
ifltrnnnncc of a new Mmillry and Parliament, in.iy be
Prejudice to the Naimu : ^urclj', thucTote, it
716.
6 JDDENQJ 19 the First Volume.
Anno 1-^cm. 1. will bc Wlfdom^ in the making of this, or any other
Law» not to conflder fome little preTent Oinveniency, but
the general and obvious Tendency of the Iuk. X there-
fbre thmk that I am yet warranted to &y, ud Hull lay
it, *till I am convinced that I have miOakcn the Matter,
That frequent new Parliaments was the indent Cdatti-
tution i that until the Reign of Henry VIII. there was no
llronger Evidence for any Part of the common law, than
there was for this Part of our Conftitution j a&i that the
fame was built, and flands upon as IbUd » Foandatian as
any X^aw ever did, or can do, being abTolutely neceflary
and eHential to the Liberties of a free People.
* It is true, Henry VIII, in the 21ft Year of his Rdea,
prorogued the Parliament, which was the firft Inftana of uis
Kind, and fucceeding Princes have, more or lefi, continHcd
the fame Pradice ; but I can in no wife SDee, lo what
fome Gentlemen would thence infer. That uc Cnwn had
always a Right to do fo i for I think I have made the
contrary very evidently appear ; and that until the 2 ift of
Henry VJII, no Part of our common Law was better efia*
blilhed than this ancient £ngliih Cbnflitution of frequent
new ParlLamenrs ; but it is remirkable, that this having
been the lirlt Jnftance of a Prorogation, it was thought coi-
venient to Arcngthen the fartherContinuance of that Parlia-.
mcnt by Adjournment alfo : If the Crown, before the Tim^
I have mentioned, had not the Power of continuing th^
fame Parliiin<ciit by Prorogations, it will not be e^y L^
fhcw, how they hnvc come legally by it fince : Sure I aax
th:)t there is no Aft of Parliament which veils any fucK
Vower in the Crown, and PreTcription immemorial is no?
lb much ab pretended to. The Short of the Matter ke^u
to nie then no more than this : A very arbitrary Prince, lAc
better to ftrve the Ends he had then in View, boldly a-
vades the Liberties of his People, and ufurps a new f^cn-
p;:itive, unheard of before ; that Parliament tamely fubmia
[lirrero, cither out of Fear, or for bafer Reafons ; perhapi,
tlicy were pleafed with a longer Continuance, and the agiir
sbic Profpeft of (harinj; in the Advantages of Laws, wiiicb
they were afterwards to make, I mean,theDinblutionof Ab-
^ic-^ ; and although thereby the Foundation of our hupj
R<-rormrilion was laid, yet that is entirely owing to anoaa
C.-iufe, and in no wife to the pious Intentions eitherof tbtt
rrincr, or of that Parliament. 'I'his new Prerogative ml
.'.t fi::} ufcd wi;h much Caution, and thereby the hv^
Tindency thereof was not fo foon difcovered ; and when |
:)-,(• Pofielron of this Power bccsme ftrengthened in die
Crown by a Continuance of Time, and the Acquielcence
"' *l)E iV.t;;^ii, it was much more difficult to get rid of ;
the
JDDBNDJ n tU riKtrVoLnHr. -j
J*
the Inaovatinn. than It wu at £ril to have prevented the
lkn« i and ii has bcm, t pttfume, though^ more pnideac
to cnoiviur our Acquieioence, whilft the IncoDvcuicncc^
Wc(c iu any ArU^furc fupfMMtablc, rattier thau to endeavour
(D retrieve ihii moll vatiublc Part of our ancieot CociOitu-
UM by force of Anui i aithougb this Remedy hath been
niortcil to 6e^ueull/, and <m much digbtcr Omfiom in my
* Bui f canool fee, that from a Power To tSumtd. and
b cOMtinucd, it will foUovk'. cither thst the aticient Condl-
nkm WM to, or that it ought to be To at this D^y ; md
I Biaft iky, tliat whaievcf Ar^unicnti can be brought to
ilffOlt that Dodnne, will equally j'tHify the Excmiie of
aay oriicr Pari of Arbitraiy Power j for upon tic ftariing
9 of any new Prcrogabvc, 'tis but faying, that the Crown
Mil always a Right to it, aldiough it na ocver claimed or
aodlcd before t and there may be Parllajncnl^ complairatic
vnoggh to acqniefcc therein, which perhaps might be alhani'
id, by a Dcw cxprefs Law, barc/accd and unmalked, . to
Cre Dp the Libeniet of ibcir Couairy i and I do tiot ice,
1 thai this would be at good a Commencement for an/
•tw Prerofative, as the Power of Proroguing at firft had.
Lc Gemkmra confidcr what the ancient Laws of England
^re, in the Mailer of ImpfiloDnients. and what the Pra^icc
%ai tor (ooie Time before the Ati of Hubetu Corfm. t hope
^htn is no Biilon, fo abatwloDcd to the Notions of Slavery,
*• tQ afitrm. thai it ever was by the Laws of Rnglaod, in
5^ Power of tbc Prince to imprifon any of his Subje<tU dar-
^Vk his Will and I^.-ifurr, and without any R<:aroiu afiigq*
^d ; They were to be impriloned only, when legally charg-
ed with Crimes ai)d were eiUicr to be tried for the fame,
^r releaSNi from their Imprifonnicnt, io a rcaCwable Timet
«Dd ai to this, the Acl of HairM Corptti was not b>lroduA'v«
Bcw Law, but declarative only of the old \ thii is
■imI to the Boing of a free People, that it mult be
that our Law was alway:i thus ; I am furc, without
our Condition would differ little from tbc Slawry of
txaky i for the Bow-Striog itlelf, a fpecdy Death, it Mer-
whcB amparcd to a liagering Confinemrnt. Aral yet
Is ttrCain, that before the Ati of Haheai Corpmi, the
KtJ>|e^ of England wrrr iViiiKUmes thus arbitiaiily
ud illegally inpriibucd, to >!- Avarice, Ambition,
Malice, or Revenge of evil '^ >* ^tv\ wicked Mini-
fltn I and (he Advocate* for Prcro^ti^ivc did as Aii^ly intlFl
Legality of this Pow<>r, at they did oo any other,
wu cJairmd by the Crown. I cantiot ituleed trit
Ejo^ this PtmtJ of aibitr-rv Impnt'-ning bd Lewi cx-
U\te Kin^! * ,4t bad «« ^, A»d been V^\. feppoited
take ^^'t.e\ua»"^y. "Swe betrayed**"* . Notice «>»;
fo ^'f tf Bnl^^'i' °^ f theit Country. V'jvicws. .=«
l^''^*"'^' ir&berue. of ^cd, but on «H»t ^^
jfBD^NDA ta tht FiKjT VoLUHs.
other ExpedirnU, towards the EilabliflinieDt of an
lite Mofuuchy, wbkh hid been long to View : But by
of chat Prince, and the unflutrul ConduA of bii
SuccefTor. an End was pat to thofe Dcfigro for that
une, ibc Pct^le havfng unammouOy applied the only Re-
medy Id fuch C&fcs ; and this brought about the late happy
Revolutioo-
• \ HaVe been oftea fuTprized. when I reflefled how
Wanting we were to ourfelves upon that Turn, to not re-
trin-ingand fccuringfor ever, by the Claim of Riches, oar an-
dcDt ConOicution of frequent new Parltamcacs, which, in m/
pOOf pinion, was much morevalttabletlian all that ue claim-
ed befiacs { but we obtained this in Part, by the AS poifed
in the 6th Yew of the Reign of King William, and whkh
ritt BPI before u» is intended to repeal % for by that A A, we
tn to have ixw parliaments, at leaA once in three years ;
ind eixn this is fuch a Security to the Britiih Libcrtiei, that
ill (be Obj;£lions ag''"'^ triennial £ledion5 are bat very
Tritlet, when compared with that : Therefore I am not a
licde furprized, when 1 hear Gentlemen fay, That the Tri-
Cmiil A£t is a rtew ConRitution, and that the Repeal intend-
^ thereof, will be but rettoring the King in Part to his
^^fangative, and fettiog the Coadicutian a little nearer lo
^^BI it nnciently was ; farely there is nothing farther from
raeTruth of the Faft : The ancient Cooftitudon was, at
kaA. annual new Parliamenti, and this was broke in upon,
and that Breach sficrWardt cD;itinued in the Manner which
\ hare already fet forth ; and by thii Aft we have no new
Trivilege granted, but only itftored in Part to iKcfc which
we nlwnyi had a Right to. But were it in Reality a new
Grant : Shall we give it ap only to enlorge the Prerogatives
Df the Crown ? May we not, in the lanie Way of rrafun-
Ine, give up ihe Hahrat Ctrfut Afi, and all the other I'ri-
TWget and Immunities, which have becii obtained to the
Fsopla ^m the Crown, from the Date of Magnm Cbarta
to this very Day \ This furely hat not been the good old
Way of reafooing in ihi> Place, and I prcfume, it will meet
irilh due Difcouiagcment at ihu Time. I hope we fluiU,
n thli and all other Otcalioni. acquit ourfclves like Bri<
Tons, and not give up, In Comphulance to any Mlniftry,
.the fmallcft, much lets the greatell and moll valuable Pri<
vilege of ibofe we rcprcfent ; and that we Ihall have the
utmoU Caution in making any Step, that may have the
)nft Tendency towards that Slavery, from which, at the
Rilqae of a Revolution, and the immenfe Expcnfc of BJood
and Treafure, we have lb lately refcued uurMvei. I hope
to hve to fee the Day. when our prrfeni ffranoui Ijo-
Amw X- Cm. X,
IT"*.
rv
vcriegn King George I^ will have the Glory to ccmplnc
10 ADDEND J ts tbt Tmr Vovvut.
Anno t R(». I, the entire revering of our ancient QmlHlation, to «ticil
Predecel&r King WUliam 111, hath nuJe (uch »
rabic Advance ; and that inllead of tricxuiUI,
aanual new Parliaments. Tlicn indeed the
ties will be founiltd cm a fiock. which i^
of the firil Minillries will never be able to prtmS
and the Crow-n will be freqiiemjy and iaithfuUy ial
the Sctilimeuu of the People, unl be thcrchf
prcfirrve with tliem that Confidence nnd good
deoce. fo .ibfolutcly nccrHJu)' For the flapptndi of
To thii I may add, that the Inconvenicacics Tr
Eicdions, will thereby be nmch tnore e&AoaOr it
and cured than ever tl cy »ill be. by paBing chc Hi
u) into a. Iaw. Upon Uie whole thefelorr« I ttMtit
Lcavcjlo aStrm, Tlmt wc have nt prvfatt *n
Right ' to triennial new PartiamcBb, and a vtry jirf
foe J know ofno Law Jal hu deprived ua thmti, Mi
Dual ElcAiotu.
* But i have fomething to urge, as to the BftK& ifi
Trull in the paCing of this Law ; ii u acrcvd en all
ttiat whaievcr (lie ancient Conihmtion nuvlic be, jn
were choien when the Law for tnenoial ParlJawrW
as it Hill is, in Force ; and that we war, atd CooU
chofen only for the Term of three Yean, if hit
ftiould think fit to continue uk ibUxtg; tfacrdbmo
tinue ourrdves for a longer Tcna, WRnld bt a ■
deceiving of thnfe whu chofe us, who cK^eQcd, Mil
not but CApcd, at the Eud of three Yean lo Im
Opportunity of a new Choice, and to alter whcR il^r
themfelves uiilbkcn. It would alio be a vcij tna:
dice CO many tlioufanda of othen, who kare a RigjM
oflrr their Service to their Couoiry, and who, briK I
nour of the Nuioa, I nm willing to hope, aic ta d
rpcAt equally qualified for tlic Service with oa. irhD fane
pieicni the Houour to fill thoi'c SeaU.
< If ihib Bill were to enlarge only the Couioaaatt efii-
tan Parliament), I ihould give my Ncgaim to h H* ih
Rcafons I have already mentioned, and yctintlMCA
tlje Elcdors would have a fair Warning faf «hai Tmrn ttl
were to chufe, and thofe cleAcd, woaU be tnily i^ ^
pcrly tike Rrprtfcittativn rif the People s whkh I ommm
c nnot be faid wi:h Truth of the pfcjem ParfiHMi^ f
they fhould be cortinacd bcrood the ihrae Yean : This «
IDC, it an iiirupet-ble Objc^iK apioS thii 1^ rf
fiill 1 for if we may add four Yean to our prdov Ti
tnav we not add forty, nuy wc noc naJbc tmrfBtKi
tiLtl ; or even rKiinjjutOi Parliaiseiui thcnCtlm f NavJ* .
is i-. «c\\a\\ we tta-j wA dn, at ahcr ikia 8km what it
IAOI>BHDA tutht First Volume. u
which tht People of Great Britain maj' not apprclicnd thjtc
«M will do ? Can we do any Thing nrnch ivorfc, cbiu lo
fubvcrt OQc oftiie thm KtUcu of the R»lin, i^n\\ to fub-
ftitute a ticw odc in the flace thereof, and inilcad of a
Hoafe of Commans by the Choice of the People, aj it al'
ways has been, and ever ougtit to br, to dhlililh a new
Kind of Itoufc of Commons, and 'till now utihcanl of, by
A&. of Parliament ?
The grcai PaitiiUly which all Parties in their Turns
\ft (hewn in the Derennination of Elections, \a% been too
0£ tlic general Complaint, and one of the grcateA Blc<
ii£es on the Juilict and Conduct of the Houfe of Com-
is ; and *ii> certainly a crying WieVcdncft, and a moft
[(langeroiii PraAicc ; therefore I am willing to hope that
Iwc Out! not, by giving our Conlcnt unco the Bill before
[■I. out-do all that ever was done of ibis Kind by former
lixment). They have chofcn only thirty or forty Metn*
ers for fomc panicular Placet* which is a trifling Peccadillo
what ii now attempted, I ine;in the chuftng of fi^'V hun-
[drcd dfty eight at ooce, for the whole Nation.
It has been faid by fome who have fpoke in the De-
t 'That we are cbolen with full Foncr to confimc n>
fuch Lawi ai we flull judge fur the Bc'tcfit of the Na-
tion j that there arc no Kcltridions or Limiiations lo
our Powers ; and that therefore we may pafs fuch new
Ijiwj, or repeal fuch old ooc», and the Triennial Ad,
ju well as any other, as we Ihill think expedient ; and
thit by a Repeal of the Triennial Afl, we (Kill, after
the three Vean, Hill continue to be the Rcprefentotircsof
the People by Virtue of their former Choice, without
any new EIcAioo for that Purpofe.* lliis appears to me
be a plain begging of the Quellion, and a rery fallacious
^ay of reafoning. T conflitute a Perfon my Attorney, with
brgc and general Power* for the Term of three Years,
no doubt, what he (hall do puifuant to thofe Powers,
luring that Term, Ihall hind me, but what he Iholl after*
iididois void ; and it cannot be faid, that by the «•
BcraJ Words of doing all A£l and AAi in my Name, tKat
B enabled to ndd four Years more to ihe ConlinuaDce
'of his Pjwcr. 1 know there arc great Difparities between
fuch Poucrs and Ihofe given by the People to their Repre-
fcntativcsio Parliament : But yet I think, that to tlic Pur-
pofe that I intead it, the Parallel will hoM. I will readily
agrrt', that the Powers given by the People to their Repre-
ferutivei are rery Urge, but Ion by no Meam go the
ith of fame Gentlemen, to ihmk ^cm abfolutely tmlt-
is Power,
Ited, or that fuch ill Die may not be made
to utkooflt to a Forfeiture thereof,
b 1
o«
* Qiu HiAories are full of lafbnces, ud we hive a veij
late one, that Kings themlcU-es tazy be guHty of fadi m
Abufc of their Power, as to forrdt the fame, and give dw
People A Right to a new Choice, and it will cot, it cuiaot
be laid, that the inunediate Cic2tures of the Fbople, who
hftve no Pretence to Power, but by Delegation from tbent.
are more abfoUtely their Makers, or more indepeadcnt ifcaa
the Ciown ilfclf: Pray confider, whether we caa bc guilty
of a greater Provocatioa to thofe we rcprefcnt, than to <io-
piivc them for any Time of being reprefented bjr their om
Choice, and to change the ancient third Eilate of the Nk>
tion, into a new invented one, unlaown to forsicr Ageti
and uhethcr they iviU think a little Sophiftiy, and • Se^
Fineflcs of Argumenti, a fufficiem Reparation fiir an tnjvf
of fo hig'« a Nature.
' But I hare a much (Ironger Objc^ion agaiai ibii Part
oF the Bill, and cannot help being yei of Opinioo. Thu if
it Hiould go through all the Forms of an AA or PatUucMBt,
pafs botli Houfeir and have the Royal Alfcnt, thai it will
Hilt remain a dead letter, and not obtain the Force of a
Law ; for I no) warranted by one of our grcaceft lawycn
to afErni, * That ar. A(X of Parlimnnt may be raid m k-
' fcif ; ' and if there ^rc any Cafct out of the Reach of Ote
Legtilaturr, chii now before ut taull be admitted to be otic i
v.)m, can be more sgaitiA common Senfe and Reafan, tbaa
to be a Ftie de ft^ Xa deftroy that Conftituiion. or any ef*
fcntial Part thereof, upon which our Exiilcooe in oat politi-
cal Capacity depends. I am alio fupported in tbb \sf ibe-
Auclionty of learned Divines ; I (hzll mention batooc, ladL
I fpeak it for hii Honour, the prefcnt Bifbop of Bn^^
who has unanrwetably made it Ci'ident, ■ That all People
* have naiurdl Rights, and that a free People bin knJ
* oner, which they may julUy maintain, and t«hich nol*-
* giSative Autbotit)- wbatfoever can deprive them of.* Aatl
can a free People have a more valuawe Right, than tks
of being fairly and frequently teprefctitcd in Parliamnu, I7
Peribns of their own dtoofingf This furely b a Right u
valuable a^ Liberty itfclf. being ablblacdy oeoeflary u> tk
SubfitUnce and Coctinuanoe thereof.
' For the Sake of thofe Gentlemen who (eem (o very find
of the utiliniitcd Power of ParliamcDU, and by which <nJy
they cm fupport the Validity of fuch a Law. as the Bill br-
fore u> ii intended to introduce, I flull mrntioQ fame Cifn,
lo which they thanfclvcs will agree, that this unliniltd
Power doth not, cannot extend. A» far Inttancr, ^uppotr.
iiidead of the Bill bcfire us, we {hould pofi a L-iw. at
done in the Reign of Richard II. tbe worft Prince thai >
C*t Mpoo the Englifti Throne, That the Power of
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ADDENDA to the Fi«sT VotvM?. 15
Boafes (hould be rcArd in twelve great Lords ! or, is wu
lioctc in ibe Rcjgti of Henry VIII. the txA Proroguerof
II fulamoiu. That the King's ProdamuiOD, with Oic Cotv-
klBtof the Pnvy- Co until, Ihould have the Force of Law :
^^K ** in 1641, Thai the ParUaaent fliouM not be difiblved
H or prwogucd withoat their own ConfeoCi : Sach Laws as
m tWfe, through OpprelTion and Violence, JtaTc been for Ibroe
Time Cubinittcd to; but (mdy no Gentleman will dy, that
they ever were, or fhould the;- be now re-cniAed, that the/
wtnld be legally in forte ; for if fo, the Parliament of 1641,
a ftill io bein^ for I never beard that they gave their Coo-
Icob CO tlieit own Diflblution.
* I wilt fuppofe one Cafe more, which has never happen-
ed, and God forbid it ever Hiould ! That an Aii of Parlia-
ment ftiould pafs to veA the whole legiflattve Authority in
the tingle Pmbn of the Prince, to cloatli bim with an ab/b-
lute diilatorial Power, to extineuifti for the future both
Hotilet of Padijtnrnt, and all other Righu and Privileges
*f the People, and to pot all Things hereafter intirely into
tie Power, and to be difpoied of at the Will and Plcafure
Of the Prince. I iun furr no true Briton will ever fay, that
li«h in Acl of Parliament ai this would have the leail Va-
odity of Force, or be any wife bindlog on the People : I un
figt it would not, hut indead thereof would. In due Time
<(ie the Auchon of it to thcA^engeance of an injiirrd tit-
i which I thick is a full Proof of what I have affirmed,
TIttt the Powers given by the People to their Reprefent*-
tivt«, are not abtbfutely unlimited ; nor the Power of the
PuliamcDt itfclf fo omnipotent, u (bme arc willing to fup-
pofe it ; I iherefbrt hope no one will endeavour to fnpport
iJiis Bill by fuch Arguments aa wiU ecjually fupport the Caies
I have mentioned, and lead us into the inoQ dangerous and
BBwarmnted Path^ ; and on this Occafion I (hall take leave
10 put Genclcmea in Mind, that France, Denmark, and
Sweden were fornterly free Nations f and what tlieir prefent
Situation is, and hnw they have been reduced thereto, is 190
WcU knowt) to need to be repeated.
* 1 have been often piuch furprized at the Boldxtcfs of the
Roman Clergy, in inrrodocing the Doflrirc of Tranrubftan-
ciitioD : how they could have hoped to prevail with ihm
Mod Subje^ the Uuiy. to believe lb munU'rous on Abfur-
dity, and did not richer dread that it would ILiggcr their
Obedicrvce. and occ:ilion a general Revolt. But our Hillo-
ries inform us. That this was done in an Age of the grolTHt
Ignorance, and of the greatefl Corrsption of Maimen : A
roper Seafon for fuch an Undertaking ! Accordingly the
'opi(h Clergy laid hold thereof, well knowing, that it ibey
m Ehi>, thtj Empin wat ftcarn, and impbcit
■716.
14. JDDENDJ to tht Fi«sT VoLvut.
Faith, without Refcrre, would be thereby for erer
ed ; it being evulent, Thai if tbtl prodtgiout Came) was
fwalfowcd down, it wai im^fitble afterwards tiiat vaj Thipg
could Hick. I cannot fuppofc, cay, it were raooA'roui u>
fuppofe, that our prrfcnt virtuous and gitGorrufW MjaiArf
can, by the pafiing of thi» Bill, have any Dd^ in View
parallel to tbac of the Romilh Clergy, to pUiB thcrefajr the
Way to Tome other Lawi, which may be tbos^hs fKoAuT
to the hxW EltabliJhment of their- Power No cenaiaJy %
they are too well ^tisiicd of the UprighucA of their Coo-
duA, to Hand in need of any indire^ Supports, and too pc-
n^rtrating, to chink ihey could obtain them in a Parliament,
tvhcre the Majority ar« (0 entirely indepeodeoc of then*.
and who, in the prcfent ami former Paitiamcrus, hare ap-
proved themielvci Champions for the libcnki of their
Country : Befides, the prcfent is fo far fram bn^ an An
of the groflell Ignorance, that never was Leanuw st w
hieh a I'ltch, nor Men aiiived to fo noble a Way «7 Free-^
THinking, that our Motto may julUy be, H*lwm»i jmwmtt
in verba MmgiSri : We (com the mufly Sayingji of Anti'
quity, and will in nothing be pinn'd down by like Oidatta
of the Learned of this or of any other Aec } thrtdbrc 'tb
impoffible to fuppofe any fuch Dcfign in toe BID bdb«e ui^
and yet I an very forry it hath been aitcmpced, aad bop
it wul oever pals, for the Renfont I have alrcKly taeadm-
cd t and alfo, lell it fhou'd'givc too great a HaixDc co Fd>-
pic without Doors, to cmeruin untoward Jealoufin ui
Surmifcs. who may be apt (o fay. That thole who can ODO-
plimeni a MiniDry with fuch a Law, can never afttnnnii
icfufc Ihcm any Thing.
' I Cull, oa this Occafion, put Gentlemen in Mind of tk
great Debt with which the Nation i) incumbered : a 9tf-
thcn which is almoll become iofupportable, and read; la
cniHi us into Ruin ; and yet, to our great Misfortooe, »-
Head of diminilhing, it is daily tnctcaGng. I have l00|ot>-
ferved the fatal Methods by which tliit Mifcbief was bnx^kt
uponu^: I was indeed in great Hope ^ that iIk puttiB|lil
eternal Stop to the fnrthcr Increafe of our Debt, aiuj xk
fettling the nwH proper Meafnres for the IcITcniiig ihcTfs't
in fuch Proportions as in a rcafooaUe Time might eo'afdjf
difcharge the fame, would have been the very fitil Work
of the prefeot Pailinmmt, as tt wat the mod valuable fv
the Intercft of the Nition ; but Cm forry to fee it hi* h-
theno given Way to fo many other Coufulcr?-
bow important forver they may be ihctigtir, 1 .
to fay, when comp;ired to thii. are hut like Ovt tji
Alint and Cvmrnin, to the •wttghlhr Tiringi 9/ the .
liitrely famcthmg tnutl, and very (boa too, be ilooe m tfci
Matter
Utter : Tor I am pcrfuadH no Man can be fo wicked, 3&
to cntcruin a Tboughc of declaring the Nation Bankrupt,
and paying off this IX-bt wllb a Spungc, to the utter Ruin
of Tboiiiandt of Fatnilin : and as little cio I (uppofc any
Mao fo llupid u CO ilccp fccarcly, whilfl the Llberues of his
Country, and thereby his oivn, and the Property of every
finglc Perfon in the NitioB, i) in the inotl precarious Si-
tuation i for, (hould wc, loaded aa we are, b« engaged in
■ arw War with any powerful Encniy, mult we not criber
fubmit to all the unreAfbnablc Impoficionj of fuch an Enemy,
or find fonie extraordinary Means to fupport fuch an expen-
fire War > Will it not therefore be our Wildora to pot our
ASain, u fooo as pof&bte, on fucb a Foot, a> to make the
Scoood Part of the Dilemma pradtcable, without referring
10 (o black an InjulUte as that I liavc hinted at, either of
^unfpng out all our paA Debts, or at Icaft of borrowing
^ Funds for the Vfe of the Pabliclc, during the Continu*
ncc of fuch a War ? Thii: furely ii a Subjea of fuch Im*
portancc, that it will juAify the Speaking of it, cither fca-
naaUy or not ; nay, I think it nrver ought to be out of
oor Mindf, till fomething very cf&ftual be done therein i
but I mention ic chiefly at thii Time, to divert Gentlemen
fnm pafiing the Bill before ut, and continuing the prefenc
ParJiamcnc beyond the Term of three Yean i tell tthat (hall
be afterwards done in (6 great and fo good a Work by
this PaTtiamenc, if continued, may be li^ible to Objcflion,
from the Doubts which the Nution may have of the Lccility
of fuch a Pariiiiment ; and lor the fame Porpo(e 1 (lull ob'
fcnrc, that we feem pinnioned down for a long Traft of
Yean, and indeed for ever, in the Methods we p/oceed in,
to ■ Latvd-Tax of two Sbiilingt in ihe Pound, and to cbe
Uah, to fapport fuch a Fleet, and fuch Guards and Gu<
rifbru, 23 in the profouniiell Peace, I prefumc, will be always
rllermed neceHaiy. The ancient Revenues of the CrOtt.'n.
a|iplicable to thcfe Purpofei, have long fince beirn mortgnged
and fiild away, a^d if our prtfcnt unluppy Divifions, mould
for fbme Time require a greater Force, for the Quiet and
Security of the Nation, even in Times of Peace, 'tii czfy
to compute how much higher the afbtcraid Taxes will rife.
• l-ct Cfcntlemcn fcrioufly confidcr, whether tt will not
greatly incicafe the C'ccafioeft of the People, under fuch
heavy Bunbenf, if ibry think they arc laid upon tbcm by
Reprcfentative* whom they never chofc. For my own Part,
I dread the Confeijuencc of fuch a law, as that which wc
arc now about, and doubi it cannot be long fupported in any
other Manner, than thofc extraordinary Lawt
mentiono] ; and
fome
tlfCAiiy
perfuad-
•d, 'til hi from the Dcfign of any in tbi; HouCe, that thia
Law, if it paft. (houM be fupported in chat Way j and efl
Tnake a Standing Army nccd&ry only to fupport a Stazutsg
FarltanKni ; for to me they feeia to be SiQcr TViiu, mitkh
cao onl/ live, and muft die together.
■ I have now given my (tvzrtA Reafoos agtinft thii BiU,
which appear to nte lb llrott|;, as would engage my Nega-
tive to it, were it even in fome Meararc conducive u ike
Ends whicb are pretoided ; but much more what I an
thoroughly convinced, that it is fo far from proauMU^ tbefe
Ends, that if ever it pa£i into a Law it wiD htvci Ttadagf
dircAly contrary.
* It has been laid, ' That three Yean u too fiiort a
' Time to cfTcA any Thing of great Moment for Um Scrrioe
' and Benefit of the Nation : That the Firlt Seffiofti u f ■
* rally fpeot and waflcd away in the Determination of Elcc-
* tioD>i in the Second fomething b done i but ihu (^ lift
* SeffioEU is ufually as much loll as the firfl. GcatloMaa
* Minds running (o muchon theenfuing Ele<boa,ai lotlltek
' ofnothirw clfe ; and iheFearalfoofairobligiDgdclrBtafr-
* tors, on to near a View ofa new Choice, beooiBCs ■ voy
* great ByaTs to their Conduct in Parliament, to chc Pnj>-
* dice of the Publick Service i fo chat in tbii frort Tent
* of I'hree Years, there is little more than the Work of
■ one Year done.'
■ I am not a little furprized, that fitch Affivtion aa tbcfii
fhould be made ufc of as Argumenti agaiofl Tricmtia] Par*
liamenis i becauCe it feems to me to be fr«tt/leti» emtrm
faOumt a> wii fiid by a very great Man oJ* Dr SachncraKa
Speech. It is evident, that the Bufiocfs of the Pybfidt WU
carried on for fome Hundreds of Years by aanaal ^fifr^
mttits only, and our Hilloriet for that Time do not *f^}aA
us with any Compbints made of the Shortnefi of ihcir Dt*
ratioB : And is it not mod ootorioui, that there nrrowOS
fucb great 7*hingt done by any Parliament, aa by IJhofii
which havT been holden ilnce the Triennial Afi.* Was Dff
a War fo lotw and fo fucceftfully carried on before, anl ta
which this Nation bore fo gmt a Proportion of EjtprBccr
Were ever Sums To amazingly great, given by any Pulia*
mcnt or Parliamenu before, in the like Compaf* of TtM^
as hai been done by tbefe Triennial Parliament! f I afira,
there has been more given by them for the Supply of a
fingle Year, than was given in the whole Reign of asy ^
the Prcdeceflbrt of the late King William HI. and ihuiht
Expence of the Publick Ser^-icr. fidcc the Revolaxioa, bi
amounted to more than it dtd from tlie firft Foundation of
the Eaglilh Monarchy down to that Time \ and I wtU va-
ture to add, *th3t they were fuch Supplies, aa cocld haN
beta tutcd 01^^ ^^ VuVvimcota of a ihort Contiimaoe t i
■til
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jitDENDAta tbt First VotOMi. Xj
'bi BOt ruppofabjc, tbat the Nation would have remained
^nin ander fuch heavy Tixcs, had the Tame been impoled
'vf % long Peorionaiy Parllarocnl, fuch as ihat of King
Chftrles if. but, when thry weic conrloccd of the abfolute
NcceQit/ of I'uch Sopplia, from the coctcurring Semimenu
of frequent new FarUament;, thejr w«e b)r tbis, and, bjr
chil Method only, could have bcert dtfpoTed to che chearful
PijrnMnt of the fame ; when this is fertoudx confider'd, I
an pcffuadcd that no Gcniteman ivill Uy, That Trtcnnial
Parliaments are incapable of doirg great Things, when ic
U Inie beyond the Foflibility of LoficradiAien, that they
hwe aitU'iily ifone much greater TJiingi than were ever
done by ParUaments before : Let us bat compute what was
doae by the long [ienfiaaary Parliatncnc of Kin^ Charles 1 1 .
and what has been done in a like Nutnlxrr of Veari by
Triraoial Parliaments, and then the Pieferecce will be ealily
decrrmincd : And furely Arguments from Matters of Faft
and tottg Experience, ought to be of much greater Weight.
than thnlc, which depend oaly OD coDJcQural and ill
grounded Surmifes, and a fanciful Way of Rcafonirg,
■ 1 will agree that much Time is fpent, not only in the
firfl but in ibe lecond Year, in the Determination of Elec-
Cioni ; bat if ihefc were all, withoot DiiUnflion, left to the
Committes af^inted for that, it would not make To great
■ part of the Bufinefs of the Huufe, as it hai of late rear*
do&e : And if the Right of Elcdlion for the fcveral Cities
•ad SorouKhi were unalterably fixed, and not changed fit<m
Time to Time, with lefpcil to the Petitioners and fitting
Uemben, the Work, even of the Comniittcc, would be
grtally lelTcned : And 1 mud fay. That whenever Gentle-
men are in Earneft difpofeJ to cure this Evil, it may be
dotic to the Honour and Repuuiion of future railian>ent»,
and to the faving Nine Paiii in Ten of that Time, which
haa of Ute Yean b<en confutned in the BulificA of ILle£tions'i
tnd therefore, furely thi& Incor.venicncr can be no Objedioa
againll Tricnniol Parliamenu, which is not owing to thit,
but to ver)' diflu-ent Caofet ; and which ciruot pollibly be
earn) by the Repeal of the Ititwial A3 ; but may be done,
if not entirely, yet Id b gmt Mafarc, by ptoper Ptovi*
fioftf for that Purpafii.
'' A* to the Inconrcnrtncies fiiggpfled loiheThirtlSclfi-
Ofu of Parliament, frcnn the near Approach of a nctf Choice «
It will be much the fame againll the Second SefHjnA, in which
filtnethinj; of Bufinefs is admitted to be done; for I fee but
tittle DilTcrcnce between the Iufluei>ce which the Profpeifl of.
a new Choice will have at the Fnd of one, or at the
of
IWO Yean, live OUeOion therefore, as to this Purpofe. is
rilOSrtbri trill'ng ; but 1 will agree, that it hat I'.i Wti^:,
I«
ADDS SDJ ip tiff tiLit Vatvui.
«iw>e » Cto. I.
if it be urged for the lor.g Contina»Doe
)t be ur^ for the Pcrpecoating the pfdcm P*rE
for theo mdecJ Gcntlcnien would be freed frora il ,
■boat a future EIcAion, and would be uwier ao
nor havr »n^ Bysfs on their Mindi from the
tho{e who chore them ; but futely it ought ao( lo It
nor is this a Compliment fi: to be mid* Co tl»
Great Britain, ^n<j is fur fiQin being a fuitabte
the Honour they have dooe ui ; aoo 'Cb moaS^t
vofe, that we /tioutJ render oarUrta
People, by » fatthCuI DifclMrgeof oorDwy,"
whicti i) beft foi the IniercU of the Natioa.
* Surely n-e ourfclves, in the ^rA Put of l^i
Srfiions, notwirbHaiviing all the Time fpcftt Is
mitutioa of EIcAions. have been able to find lint 111
nil the neccfCir)' Suppliei for the Semcc of the Nudt;l
perhaps we hive miide fome Difcoverio >a thii A]
to former oneif we have a Gliaipl'e of fa
fcnbe<i bHbrv. yet it will fUIl be I7bc» chu chia'
Ipruns cp but very liiely among us. And
CoBUderslion ruinut weaken the tral Strength of f)i'
raent, ycc it layi it under the TmpnutJoa of Noid^. i
will be a fun JulUfication of the Iiitep^ity, if
Sagaettr, of thofe who OuD pcrfcvcrt Ux these
the Biir.
* Aj to the Failure In the Triennul Afl, of
the Expefhtiona of the N'atido, :i S.>t hfcn oaljf
seneral Tcrmi, and I cannot eti .: nku u
»rly mcuit i fu; it lus certuti.; ..: .x::cxl all tW
v.Uich, Ijom ths ^r^atnb1e of tJie A&, wccuk,
10 hare been expedcd by the Makcri ibovef, or
deed, in the Nature of the Thiti]^ codU h»TC bees <
ed fn3m it j for furely tlic Cncrascc which h^ Imk'
of a very long Pu-Uameat, u thereby teilrcfid, ud\
C?r>aIlitution offrcquetil oew Pktliameng, io put,
and brought nearer lo what it atKieaily aad ormfoaHy
* As to the Incruic of firibefv and Corrofatm is
tioa^, dnce the Triennial AH, it ii impofflilt it aa be i
to that Jjir, or that it would be any vnfc AwmIhII
Kej^ thereof ; and to Fa^, tb« locfOft of
CorruptiOQ in Ele^Uons may haw haBpCMd fiace khit
itad yet be no wife a CWcqueaoe thcnof » 'u
conunoQ Senic to imagine, thbt iheb nbtt %OttlJ
their Seats in Parlbmen:, would five Bwr* Sot a
thsn for a Seprcruu.-il One, or for a CaattottVKC<
ot ihac fuch EtefUirr., who wSI Idl thm Vaim,
Anthtneiick cnougli to propCrtMli tlieii Pricci. lO
ihcy cVoolt Ouc\i\e^xclek\a:^^«kW v >i«t9dSm
the
'•mov
JDt>ENDj1nth* Fimr Vouom. ig
IB Jigtloil tbe I'licanial Ad is ctiwnlf very frirofooi, on-
fomeiiiing moch fzrtho' he intended, than t bcliere any
hai yet the Courage to fpok out, I mean, unlcH IC
intended, before the £xpintion of the leven Yeart lu
a farther Term by another Ai\, and To od : Tlicti ijiJecd
a ia tSeStual Stop put to ail future Bnbery and Cor-
9D in Ele^bota, ami the Ult Eledion which the People
, vii to be the bit tfacy ever were to iiavc.
Tbii brings to my Mind a very foindaloDt Pamplilct,
came out a litue before the Elcdior of the pnUuit
It. I tUnk the Tide of it iii, Eng/i/B Mvu-e to liw
n «/ Exgiani: This Aothor takes great Fainj to
Peofdc of England from choofuig a certain Party
wbooi he tinjuHIy painti la very black CoJoiin i
>n^ othen, there i& an Fjcprctlion to this EScCt :
i*t pve your Vote hr one of thefe People, h hate%er
may oBtr you, for depend upon it, if there Ihould be
Majority of them in Paruamcni, il ii the Uft \'ott: yoa
v-iil ever have the Opponuoity to give.' I am pcrfuaded,
[b far from the Intentioru of any Gcndeman here, to coq-
ribuK- Co (he Credit and Reputation of that Author, hy
' ing rvcn a Colour of PiobaiMlity to the Truth of any of
Predidions ; and this I hope will alfo have ibmc V^'eight
rent a Repeal of the I'iicdiuaI Ad i fmcc ibac will
[the Ai; of tlic isft bold Seep towuib the ful£Utng of
' ' rd Propbeey ; and the nukiag de of the .•\rgumcac
sen codcarouring to eixplode, will not a tittle IteJgh-
SuJftcion ; it being evidently of do Force, ia aov
View, but that of carrying the Matter to the Length
ihii Author hAi furetold. But finely Gentkmen need
thm huoi about, either for the Caufe or the Cure of
and Corruption is Elediooi.
Oa the Uie happy RerolutiOD, by which our Religion
Liberties were preferved, we uere unavoidably cngag-
» very expenfive War; and had it been carried oa
_ sUci withia the Year, aj it is cvidatt it might have
our War and our Tixci would hare ended together i
K Aoiild have been then able, wbcn julUy provoked
to, 10 begin the iecond War, a& we were to under-
But, unb^pily for Bagbind, this Method wu
but iaftcad thereof the Natioo vis by Piece-
toSale; and Bxecnfalefurely will their N'amci
Poflttigr, who at iiH bc^an athavc been fuicc,
chief Supporter* of this accuzicd Pndice, by which
third Part at leaft of the great Sam^ given, have been
the Serrice of tl;c Nauoo, which now rcnuios load-
a Debt of fifty Millions i bctdo, aa teaH the Sum
MiUioof, which h» been aditally railed and
c 1 ^-i^.
ich
poled
lttcft~
10
Aba*** Ctt, L
(7l4.
feemi to me to be olcuUicd for tin: dirr^ cncn
pofo, to blow up the FUmc, and to fUl «p cl« !
the Natiorr's Diifconteno ; for it » iapOMlemi
that the Elc^n of Great Bntiln, of nrluttrcr
Deoomination they ma/ be, will not be ItiftMy
by fach a Law as this ; and if tbcy ihonld iinircT<a|)r
theJT Rr&QtniciUs agaioll thoft, who witbovt t^Mar ' '
luve made ihcmrelres the SLepnSmtjtQvn of thr.
I leave GeattemcD to judge, whether ciiia
an Animofity of a much more dangenim CoaSe^vamA
that which we are preteitdtng to extJngoHh by thu j
' It ii alfo urged. Thu thcA: fm)Timt Flaflnw |
great F-ncoiiragcmrDt lo the ldlene6 and
tnc meancft ud lowed of the People ; OnfaraaUm
gratify the Orunkconefi and Lcwdacb of the I
mm foiry rhjit there are any ExcdEei. Co gtvc Fc
Joe Ihit Complaint ; but fuicljr the ErU procenk
jame Cauie, :liii] mufl lie ciftcd in the Cmtut W^
thofeothen which f have already taken Noboe o^ Hi
been objeAcd to the Trieoolal AA. And I caa
now, otd/ to obferii-e, what preUy Epithets are
the Bedon or Great Brirain. Ji wv with Coaccra
heard then lately treated la thii Muuker io
but could never have believed it poCble to iwK iati
Thing like it hinted within thd« Walls. H»* Imt
meat! fgevet they may be. the/ an IJQ the FcepU «f 4
Britain, and'wc are one of the Thtte Eftatei of t^ ]
by a Power derived and delegited Onoa chca.
wre then only the RcprtloiUatirtt of e knpd, '
bauched Mob ? To paint oat the Conmana of
tain, io fuch oantcnipubk Ctrioun, i« lard/ (ktef
DUhanour to ourfelvn, sod ii c^miljr mnatefid im i
to them. I think we reprefeet all the CbatoMi af <
Mtais, aotl farely amamfi cheat chcBc an obc/ .
every Way a* w^ qoaltied to ill theft Sest>, s m
have now the Honour to do it: Aad ercaai wtlMfccf i
iol'etnr Rank, it mail be owt»ed, that they wt a
and a gallant People i aod when we catnfuxc the*
(bob of otlur Co-jurict, we have Rcz£m to be ■
with our own hsppy Conftitvtioa, which hu
a Diicrencr between them and oihei I
bn-d up from their Cradick wf.h dcrp I^irefiiMtf
ber;y, and have thfrir Prefcrtiea feacrd in and
Law t bdH by ihor RepeeTentativo in PulkmeH.
have eke Honour to Aiarr. even in the lnjiBaiiTe
•ity i and 'ti«> this gives our People the Spsit iWi
Ablation of the incicnt Roanajo. by which oair Naowl
obtaiaaA uAinfenied tta ^rcat ChvtfW in the WotU.J
turn
(ocn I
JDDEN^DA Si tht FiKr VoicMB. xj
"• It b thus we ought to ddcribe the People of Gteit
and we ihall tbcn only do cbcm the Jufiice xiwy
re : But if, on t)te Contraiy, wc Ibcw ui Indiiution
I JspRciate their V^ue. ai>d jccm to be afhuned of ihof«
■• rtprefeni, will it not, efpedally if v,t paic the Bill
BOW before lu, give the Iroi^eft Jtaloury, thai we intend
IB npRfcac them do more, but to fee up for the future,
a Tlttrd EAaic cntircl/ iodependeni of them. And this
Jolcnfc- will be IliU encrca&d, by what Has bceo with too
(Rat Freedom dtfcouHcd of without Doors, That People
I aoft be govemed by ihcir Fears, and furdy fo they muA,
if Uu» &U pais ; for I thinjc it will be fcirce poflible af- .
tpwawfa to goh'cm them by Lore. Unhappy Britain f to
knv brought forth Children fo unaataraJ, as to treat thee
diu> : For whatever may have be«n put la Practice in Ibr-
ma Times, the Dodrinc of Slavery was never fo openly
arowed before : What, govern a free People by their Fears (
flnnA'rous F-xprciTioii ! ud certainly a ransra Defisn cor-
idpondiog thereto, is an AA of 'J'mchery, as ^ul and
, Imek as a Briton can be guilty of : An high Crioic and
I ICflnneanor it certainly is ; I will not call it hi^ Trea-
fin, bccaufc I know no Law of the Land which has ycc
dfedared it fo.
■ The Arpimcm which I OialJ next take Noiice of. is
that which iccnu to me to be mentioned a± the chief Jn-
^ccsient ui the Preamble of the Bill, and which has
bea chiefly infiilcd apoa by the Gentlemen who have
fpokcn for it ; * Becaufc of the Dat^r from the genetal
* DUkootcnts, and yreat Difil&flioa of the People, which
' ibaie Gentlemen are appichefirr, were a ParUanxtit now
' to be tiUcd. would produce a Majority of very dii£rrenc
' itcBCJacnu fnkm thofc who now compofe it • Others,
* wbo think better of the Indiiuuioiu of the People, be-
■ bcve. that iliis wklced Work could sot be accomplilT^^cd
' wiiboQt the Help of foreigo Money, to bribe and corrupt
* the fitedors of Great Britain j but upon the whole, are
* of Opioion. that the Thitw would be rffe^lcd, and that
* iniLead of the prelent exceUeac KtHjfe of Comtnoiu, b
' devoted lo the true IniereA of their Gauntry, and to the
' Suppoft of his Maiefly, and the Proteftan: Succeffioc, ws
' Iboold greatly rifque the havinj; fuch n Parliament at
* would be ready to call in the Picccnder. and to deliver
* up their Country to Popery and aibiaaiy Power i and
' therefore thofc who are iputft the Bill, arc chaivcd «riih
* concributii^ to this Dcfien, altbdug^ they are ^vjubly
4 believed no wife to intend the Thing.' And ihii I thine
ii ihc fall Import of wha: has boco uidby Gcotlemes on
IkAn Head of (Jk Argunt&t.
14 JDDENDA to tht First VoLtmt.
* As to the Dinger wJuch fome Gcatlcnea ii
ill Parliameni, were it now to be cbolcn, froa
I'rench Money, it is in my Opinion, s Rcprmdi ta ttel
lent MiuLlry, to faDcy that they woolif be oui-doK, m%
wilted by Prance in this, nr in any o(b<r W«y ; nod I H
that the dcfcsiing of fuch an Aftempt, in Ac only Ok
wbich a Minitlry tnight unblaiucdbly >pply the fwbfacikll
ney, in tbe BuAncTi o^ Elc^toii : T wtflt \K octtr bal h|
or iTuy be done on Jiny other Occafion. But wbf Jb Oi
llcmui believe, that the Recent ot' Fnocv will naMki
our rJe^lioiu ? Surely not lt'<ng fine?, he hAd a mxiMl
Opportunity to hare diArclTcd u;. hnd he been fooi^
On Dther Ot:c\lions wc hear, I meori uithoiit Doorr, ^4
Sped Undcrihinding between hii Mxjefljr atsl thw ni^
mt tJH: Prctenilci will very foott be obliged to tnvWin>H
the Alp> i :uid ihii crnainly i& highly prababfe, i/
gent ha^-e an) Fxpcilatiom of bcmg himCdif
of Fraitcc. I OioJl fjy ^ Diorc of this, ukI bciM^^
who nude the ObjeAion, (carce txpc^trd tkttaovt
have taken fo much No:;ce ot' it.
' As to the Oongcrol-' ^n ill Parliamenr. frmik\
Dtfafieflion of Che People i this, i roofeli, bi,
ordtoary and furpriztng .Argument, and foci. ml\
tboughl 1 (bould hare hcaid in this Place : Portt
Declaration nnd Acknowlcdgemrot, thJt the Ptoplrl
Britiiln are not trul)* repreicnted at thii Time : tUI '
fciit iioufe of Commoni. arc the Supponcn of th i
oitd irci? fntereft of the Praple, which the Peecbi
are endejvonring to defiroy, ^nd Mould cfisdufi*
a netv Clioice ; .>nd ttiertr r^ to be trtfiri '
dircrctt Cliiliirrn, andiioi ' '.irFrowtrtefrl
cd at the Price ct their ujiduif>g. 'J'hb tttdcvd bVfe'l'k
People of Great Britam, in Uw plalndl Tcnw, ^^fJL.
they arc not at prrlcni truly rrprribited by tlwfe '
did choofe, fo for the t iiuie, ttiey Audi bci
oat any Choice &t all. If tht^ be the Wa'> u
with the People, what n it which cin give tbcn l]
No, certainly ihii intUl malce it abfolntcly
vem ihem by their Pean, and to txkc fgch
are proper ^r tbtt Purpofe j x Drfiga fb
c:iniK>e ioppolo it hu yvt oeercd into dbe H<
BntOQ.
■ It is xmuiDg to bear thii very Sweflkm, in
nion fiu dilUot hoin the I'rutii, not a3y<Kk tke rrv.
a» other Ocoifiotu. fo fteqncndy made a^ vi w»a
rient : for were it really tmr, caa ie (k* as*
pQblicIc tobcmaluogdailjr md hmrly Pmi
o1^. Vot cux^bKiiiraftrHdaUkdjMi
/* the First VofWMr. ij
m tke Hinds of hb Mijefiy, and bia &ithfal SabjeJb, or
t» veaken thofa of the Prrtendrr, and his fbrttgn and do-
anftidc Frietids, to publtih to all the World, ;^r what ii
6M in this Place on be a Secret no where) that the Difaf-
leAior to his Msjetty is rery general, and the Party of the
Pretender io cooftderable ia the Naciao, as to rirqae another
ftdKllian in ha Favour, if they had the Opportunity of
ifimbliQg together in Naaibers on a new Eltction, or any
ether OpfOtlMmtY equally proptltooa to their Purpofe ; and
If thu did not happen, that ftill there would be Danger,
that the Nfajoriry on a new Eleftion, would be in the In-
teiefi of the Pretender ; and that this woold not be left,
periatpi might be more ^tal, even than a RebeUioo. A
BU foaoded on foch Surmires a» thefe, and fupported with
liicfc Argnmcntj, is highly dangeroiu, and if it pafles into %
(■«, it> Title oaghr to be. An AA Fer iht mtfi t^taual
fcw umijjijw*/ of tht Prttentlrr and hit AlUet, la invedt
thii Kiit^Jom; in my Conrcirncc I bcHere it fo^ ud lb it
»fll be found if this Bill ftuald pais into a Law.
* I bcUrre it will be admuted, that from the firft Efti<
MHment of the SacccfEion, ontil it happily took Place, a
Vaft Majority of People expreJTcd the greateft Zral for it^
and SatisfiUlion in it t that from the Death of the Queen
m the Arrival of hii Majefly, the Nation n-as ntrer known
to be in a greater Calm. That the Parliament then in bc'
iflg, unanimoufly fettled the Cirii Li!l for the Support of
the Dignity nf the CrowD, and complcated what was want'
log for the Sappltrs of the Year i and whatever Faults
(Jwy inigbi have been goUty of before, there was nothing
MM wanting in the rrpieSng of their Duty ; and it has
been faimiled, that feme Perfons whofe Zeal for his Maje-
iy cannot be furpcAed, were not a little appirhenfn'r.
That that Pariiamcat, and the P^rty of which rheir Majori-
ty wai compofcd, would, to make amends for their pafl
CbadttS, go too great Ijcngtht in their CompIaiCince to the
Orawm ; ukI that for thii very Keafon, it wis dan^rous fot
die Nation that hii Majc^ OuMld ever meet tfaero i but
whatever the Reafons were, ccrtaii it is that hi* MajeJly fa-*
than not. The Joy on hii Majefty's Arrival wai as pe»(
and oni^-erfAl, as was ever kuown in Britain > and non
bcBce I think I may fairly conclude, that if there be fuch s
Dtfitftaioo as is faggeded, fuvce it was not before, it moil
km happened fince hii Majefty's Afrival i and if thli can
be unagtDcd poflible, it mull be then agreed, that fuch a
fcncnil Drfaffrtiioo is an EffeA too coiifiilmble to bc prt>-
duccd without any, or by a very flight Caufc \ his Majefty
fanly can be do wife the Caufe of to furp nzing a Change^
^flTmiled, in tbe Indmaiion of bn People i thvrtfore.
d ■\^
AAM& CEClL
1716.
26 JDDBNDjt to the FmsT Volomb.
if there be fudi a Dibifedioa, it csn be only to the Miu-
fters, and produced from Ibmething really ill, or which it af-
prehended to be fo» in their Condu£t I am perfuaded, that
they themfelves have too much Madefty» not to agree^ that
'tis much more reasonable to fuppofe a Pifajftftiao to tho^
than to the Pcrlbn of the King ; and I doubt not fatt thit
Houfe will always diftinguifh, as they have hitherto done,
between the Sovereign and the Mihiflen of State.
' But, in Judice to the pre&nt BAiaiilry, we mft con-
clude, that the Diiafledion to them ts "Tffrrt^ only bf
imaginary, and not by any real Evils done by them t aad
we have great Reafoh to hope, that by their wiie and pro-
dent Managemeiit, they will be able in a very little Tinie* to
undeceive a miltaken and deluded People, and theKfar teeua
thofe Affe£lioni, which, for the prefent, they ^pehena to
be loft to them. And if they Ihould &il in thii, I am per>
fuaded, from their great Zul for the Quiet of the Kmg,
and Welfare of their Country, from their known Mmter-
eftednefs, their generous ContemiA of Advantagies to ihcm-
felves, and from that ancient heraidc Roman Virtue, which
fo viiibly appean in tvery Part of thdr ConduQ, that they
themfelves would become fuppliant to his Majefiy, far li-
berty to retire from the Burthen of their Traft, and to »•
pofe the fame in fuch Hands, as might put an End to the
Difaffe£lions which are now complained of. And I am the
more confirmed in this Opiiiion, becaufe I myfclf have hcaid
fome of tiie greatcll Men now in Power, before they wcie
fo, exprefs themfelves in fuch a Manner, as left me no nx»
to doubt of the Sincerity of fuch a Difpofttion.
' There is yet one Part of the Objeflion which I hare
not touched upon, the Danger which is apprehended of an
Invafion from Abroad, and the Infuric£tion at Homtf, fhoold
a new Parliament be called at this Time, and this, I think,
b the only Thing which I have heard mentioned, which has
the Colour of an Argument for a longer Continuance of the
prefent Parliament ; out I believe, when it is a little ea-
mined, it will appear to have the Colour only, and to be
vox i^ frteteria nihil. I think I have already made it en-
dent, that there is no fuch DifafEeflion to his Majefiy, or hii
Royal Family, as is fuggefted, and if there be not, then the
Danger of any Invafion or Infurrc^On on that Suppofitiaa,
falls entirely to the Ground. But even admitting the Di^-
feflion to be as it is fuggefted, 'tis fltll agreed, that the whok
Nation is not difa&Aed, but only fome Part thereof ; aid
that therefore the Meeting together, on the Occafion of Elec-
tions, which are not mnde all on the fame Day, would con-
fift of mixt Multitudes of well and of ill-afieaed Ferfons, fc
that the former might balance tJie latter.
' But
HWME. 27
' But admitttflg ttut not only the DifafftfUon is, bur that
the Cailing of a new P4rl«nwnt at this Time, would be, as
Ihe fame hive beeo Teprcfented, >et this will not provr that
there's any Neccflity at this Time far the palling the Bill,
wbkh is the Sobjeft of oar prdcm Debate. I do laofl rca-
'i'fy »gre«. that if this Parliamenr were to expire in a very
fltort Time, and that the publiffc Meeting of the People
vonld retlly be of fucb a dangerous Confcquence in the pn>
fan JunAure, as has been mentioned ; that then abfolate
Neccflity, which always has been, and ever will be, a Jafti>
fieuion of cxtraoidinary Steps, u-ould equally jullify the
Prolongation for a Time of the prefcnt Parliament, in the
Manner now propofed ; and no doubt but that the next fuc-
eeedjng Parliameni, conrrned in the ufual legal Manner,
would approve and confirm what Oioiild be done in this, on
(i> preying an Occalton. But furely it will do wife follow,
btCiufe this might be done in a Cafe of absolute Neceflit>',
tint therefore it may or ought to be doae, when there i« no
Ncccfiity at all. And it h evident, that there is no imme-
diate Neceflity hr the palTingof this law, Itncc, notwith-
ftandirg the Length of the Bm, his MajeAy may ftiU have
two Seffions more of this very Pailiament ; and will it not
be time enough 10 pafs fuch a Law in the lail Scffion, if It
fhould (hen appear as necei&ry as it is now pretended to be f
And therefore admitting every Thing which has been alledg-
ed, iht-re is not the Colour of a Necefiity for fudi a Law
■t prercnt ; and (bii gives me Hrong SuTpicioti, that there is
« Snake in the Grafs, ortd that we have not yet been ac-
quainted with the true Reafan of fo unprecedented an Al-
icinpt. Certainly no Gentlrman can be afraid of what eve-
ry Gentleman mull wifb, that before the End of another
Jtar. our Pcimem will fubGJc, and thCiNation be reftorcd
to « perftft Calm, which woold entirely ukc away all Pre*
ttACCS of doing what h now endeavoured : Or, tint the una-
Btmdas Voice of the Elcflors of Great Briuiii, agninll fucli
1 law, would, before another Scffion, be found tiyi rtrong
to be rtfiHed I^ their Reprrfentalives, and that Gentlemen,
npon a more rnotttre Confidcration, might come to think
vciy difcrcntly of ihii Matter from what they at prefeac
may i and that therefore this great Maftcr-piece muft be
Itnick off at one Hear, and that ir*^^ ar ntvtr mufl be the
Word : Or may not others wiihoux Doon be not to fofpcA,
that this Law is rraUy Intended to cfKourage the Preit»der
u invade, attd his feoret Friends to Aww themrdves in pab-
Kdc, by foothing them ip in the Hopes and Belief of the
Gfcatnefs of their Numbcn ; and by leading them into
that Snare, have an Opportunity of difcovering and crufhing
tborooghljr in lineland.
d I
in
28 ApDENDJ tt tbt FmsT Vot-VMi.
4nM t. Gn. I. in Scotland ; and thereby fecure for ever the Peace «Bd
^T*^ ^ Tranquility of the whole Kingdom i Vot it ii impofiblc id
imagine, that fuch Encounmrnent woold be givoi to the
Pictender or hii Friends, as teems to he done fay the Pna»-
ble of this Bill, and the Debate of this Day, if tfasft who
weK far the Bill were not entirely fatiified, that a pew Xs-
beUion. if itlhould haj^ien, would be attended oaly with
the Confequences I have jufi now menttoned. How i^hc *
Defign of tbis Kind may be in Politicks, I wiD not pemd
to determine, but will venture to affirm, that it ii catitcly
tnconfiflent with the Chriftian Keligion. aqd the ^iaqples
of Humanity, common to all Mankind.
* But bcfides, I think an Experiment of thii -Kind uech
too dangerous to be tried ) for when the Fire ii once kind-
led, no human Wifdom can tell how mnch it maj coo-
fume. And although we have happily fuppMjBsd the -lace
unnatural Rebellion, yet I am perfumed, no wifc Wan can
wilh, to ferve any End whatever, to fee the Nation ejtpefad
again to the Rifque of fuch another Attenpc, altboi^h it
ihould be as ill concerted at Home, and as litde finmrtri
Irom AlHoad, as the laft feems to have been. Soch Motim
as thefe, therefor?, can furdy prevail with no Body, mA
yet I am not able to gueft at thofe which iboiild : jjuri
where no vilible Reafon does appear, for fo violent and aed*
left a Precipitation, there mu^ and will be great Vancgraf
Conjectures at thofe which are not ieea.
^ Another Argument feems to have great Weight iriih
Gentlemen for the pai&ng of this Bill ; ' That it will efr
* courage foreign Prinzes and Stales to enter into AUiuca
* with us, when they fee a cerain fixed Adminilfaatiga,
* on which they may depend ; for that at prefent they bolt
* upon us to be in the Nature of a Triennial Govtmmeat, i
* new Parliament being nfiially attended with a new lit
' niilry, and a new Miniilry with new Meafures.*
' I believe that this is the firfi, and I hope it will be tta
lad Time that ever an Argument of fuch a Natatc wai ad-
vanced, or would have been endued in an EngUfli or Brt
tifh Parliament. We have hitherto been able to form gNOt
Alliances, and to do great Things, on the Foot of onr aa-
cient Conllitutipn ; and are we now funk to a Conditioa
fo defpicable low, as to be obliged to model it to the Ge>
nius or Humour of any of our Neighbours ? Can a Britoa
hear this with Patience > Abfblute Monarchy, and dcfpotk
Power, have no doubt, in fome ConjcAores, the Advan-
tage of our Form of Government ; but fliall we for the
Sake thereof, give up the moft valuable ConftitutioB 190a
earth, fo adapted to the Spirit of our People, and &
well fmltd, in ^ «»nal CisounfiaBces of Hk, for ilw
JJ}J>£SDJ ff th First Vqlqwb. sp
''cUire and Uappiaeic of > free Nukm, and by which we
hithcru* moot i«ch with a dlOinguifliiQg Luitute,
tU other CountiKs in the World ? Bu[ as to the
itkii, why do Gcnilcmen imagioe, chit tricii-
ftrfiamcnB necenkrily infer a triennial Governmcot t
the cxscntirc Fowec is iniirdjr in the Prince, tbcic
fcwi of the Land haw pbosd it, and there I hope
for ever mnun : The Power of Peace, War, and
are the undoubted Pitm^ves of the Crown,
mo ParUaiMot, I hope, will ever pretend lo difpuie
bmc. 'I'hc Stability therefore of our Govcmmeni, as
[•vdam to foreign Nations, depends intinily oo the Piince ;
I believe our ancient Allie never had, nor had Hea-
to have, a greater KeUance oq any Briiilh Monardv
«a hii pretent Majcity, who & worthily fUs the
} and I hope thai Reliance wiU ocver be iram&r-
hiti) lo any Miniftry. Supported by any ParHanicat
rtr i which. I tliink, would be of the moft daagenaia
fc to the Royal Dtgniry, the liberties of the
aad to the true lotercfb of all our finccre foreigk
idt. But I am alfo at a Loii to Bad out any neceC-
ConaeAion between a ikw Parliament awl a new
wact there any Weight in that Obje^OD ; for,
not the publidi EmploymentB in the Difpotal of
King, and wfailA they are cacBCuied to hii SatiibAioa,
be cootlnuad in the £uDe Haodi ? And when they are
it ia unfit they Qtoald. Aad whatever Cbai^ his
auy at any Time happen to mahc, I am perfuad-
will be alwxyi fuch u will be imfl ftir his owa
aod the Welfare of the Kingdooi.' And I msft de-
ihe fame Opinioa as to Employments, as I have
with Relation to Seats in Porliamem : That there are
Numbcn in firicain.. every way ai well qualified for
aa the prcfeiit PofTeilbn i and how peat foever my
may be for the prefeot MimAiy, I cannoc carry
CompUroent fo &r ai b> think, that tbe Nation would
if they were laid afide. But if by the Paffiog
Iaw the prcfenc Miniftry fhould be effcAually cRa-
which is more than any Mao caa pnteod to fto-
whitt Encouragctncni could this in reality give to
j^armlng of ForeigQ AUiancct ; when by the fame
i[ it fidly infinuated, and plainly admitted in the pre-
Dcbicr, that the Afirdioni of a very great Part of
People arc loft to thu very Miniftiy ; for my own
,1 ihinlc it is doing them the greatdt Wrong, and
Foreign Fdnca and States with the JlrongGfl Ar-
againfl tbeir entering into any Allianoc with ut.
JC if aec ihcii boag {a^otuA by a Mojoiity of thia
HouTe
M
•7 (6.
30 ADDBND-/f to tbt Fikst Volume.
Au».ft.aaa.L Hoofe thit Will be any AibftantLal finooangement, if itia
beUercd that a Majority of the Nation arc io rery diSereat
Sentiments.
' Five handred and fifty eight Gentlemen of Britaia,
abftradedly oon&lered, were they all unanimous, bear bat
a tnull Proportion to the Numbers in the Natioa ; but
when they fit within thefe Walls, ctoathed with the AntbO'
rity of the Pet^Ie^ and are thought to fpeak their Sede,
*tis then indeed that they will have the full Wdgkt of
the Commons of Great Britain. It is evident, that the
pKfent Mkiilliy and Parliament were in Being when the
jate RcbelliM broke eat, and that notwithOanding all otho
proper Meafures, fix tboafiutd Dutch Troop* were thoa^
ncoefoy towards the fuppreffing thereof ; they had not ccr^
ta^ been otherwile lent for, nor woold any Brittn have
dared to have given fuch Advice; what Jodgmint then
moft that, and other States and Princes lonn from kencc^
of the Situation of onr Affairs, efpecially when by this
taw we proclaim aloud, that oar Heats and Auawfitia
4o IHU continue, and that these are flill very daacniM
Difpt^tioiis to««rds a new ItcbeUion i and if this oe n
Encoar^ement to enter into, and depend npon cor Alli-
ances, Iknow not what can be a proper Difcoaiagemeat
' I am therefore in Hopes that this Bill will not pa6 1
inftead of fuch extraordinary and unnatural Projc& u
thefe, there are others that del'erve onr Attention. I
think it would be a Oefign worthy of a Britifh ParliamcDt,
to concert and execute the moll proper Meafum for tbt
healing up of ow Breaches, and uniting our Minds for tkc
common Intereft and Safety of the Nation. The hrft Step
abfolucely necefliry towards this great Work, feems to me
to be, the forgettii^ all paft Party-Quarrels, and cxtingoifli-
ing for the future thofe odious Names of Diftinftiim,
which have been fo long, and fo unhappily kept up. And
I will venture to fay, that this Expedient towards Uaui-
mity, is much more Chriilian, lefs dangerous, and, thoagk
difficult, yet much more pradicable, than the Extirpation
or tout Suppreflion of etcher of the contending Parties,
which the unthinking Furiofo's of both feem to be too
fond of.
* I would not have Gentlemen difconraged, in endo-
voaring what I recommend, from any Difficulties which
they may conceive therein ; for (urely there was a Tinn
and not long fmce, when this bleiled Woik could not have
mifcarried ; I hope it is ftill pradicable, orelfe the Natioa
wtU be foon undone ; for, we are fure, that a Kingdom di-
vided ag\in^ 'tt^e\S vi\U Ik bnu^jit to Defolaiion. But u
to the fji&bU^cy o( t^ TVvn^i \ex v&'^^^cii&»atf& <a
ADDEfiDA t9 tbt First Votvutv 91
' of the great Hcacs and Animoiities, which were railed
Ftnd continued, by the unexampled Violences and Cruelties
of a long ana bloudy Civil War ; yet thefe were all appeaf>
ed in the very Beginning of the Reign of King Charles IX.
afler his Retloratiort; the Hittory of that Time being fuf-
fidently kiHtwn, I need not refieat tiie Measures which
ikcre then litken : Certain it t5, the Nation enjoyed a CaOn
for many Years, our Trade fiourifbed, our Wealth increaf-
ed. and we were both, in the literal and allegorical Senfe,
a Land Bowing Hith Milk nnd Honey ; and this I hope
will be again our Cafe. I would alfb recommend rhc Pay-
neot of our publick Debts, or at le&ft of putting iKcm in a
Way of being difcharged in fomc rcafooable Ttcie ; for
'till this it done, we are, in my Opinion, in a Sute of Ibe
ptaccft Infccurity ; for what Foreign Prince or State, will
cither court the f-'riend/Iiip, or drcid the Rnmity oi a bank-
rupt People ? I'or choogh paittcular Perfoni are really rich,
the Nation, whilll loaded with a Debt of fifty Millions,
ii andoubccdly very poor ; and it it ool a mclancholly Caa-
lidcratioD, iluit when the Individuals arc very wealthy, that
ytx the Nation fbould be very weak t chit is indeed a Pa-
ndox t but greater Hill, that Men can be lb iDfaiuated.
at to ficcp fecure under a Government, which can fcarce be
£ud to be in a Condition of givit^ them PtoteAion, and
that too when it is in their own Power to Rrdrefs the F.ril.
* Before 1 fit down, i nia0 obferve, that ihu Bill is
brought in by no Order of this Houfc, nor hai arofc oo
any Motion in it, but is a Prcfcnt fent us by the Huufc of
Peers. I do not £iy. that their Lordlhip« h^ve cot a Right
a fend us this, or any othrr Bill ihcy pleafe, a Money Bill
eeceptcd ; but lince iichieiiy, if not wholly, rehtes to our
own, and the Rights and Privileges of tbofe we reprefeot,
it would more naturally, in my Opinion, have had it5 Com-
mencement here ; and thii ConliderKion inclines me to be-
lieve, iha: it had not bcc-n cafy to hare found one among
OS, who would have been willing 10 have made himfelf rc-
tnarkablc bv being the fitll Mover of fo extraordinary a
I,aw, lo likely to difguQ a v&A Majority of the Pe: pie. But
there are other Reawni affigned. and preny freely talked of
without Doors, for bcgmaing this Bill m the Houfe of Lordt,
that thereby Time would be got, and proper Arguments ap-
plied, to convince Gentlemen of the Neceflity of this Law,
who, when it was fiift fpolce of, Teemed to be very much
prejudiced againfl it : and 'tis &ud, that there hai been
gtrat Paini taken for that Purpofe, and not without Sue*
<Um 1. Gm. l
1716.
But 'tix (aid, that the main RcaTun agaJnil beginniite
c. W23 to take off that BvaG, which was aprrenended
it here, was to take on that tfyati, w^lctl was ap{<.
nifhrbr apon ihe Klmdi q( GcDtkmcu, fiom Uv« \WtA-
$t jDDElfDA h fht Fikst VoiVMtJ
MMt. gmi. fulneft <rf its Fste ia another Place ; lor though dw Lorii
*2^ . have, we have not an Inheritance in our Scaci, batifa|MMd
for a Contianance of them in future Parliamenii^ «■ the
^peA O^aaaa of the Elefion of Great Britain i tod. tv d^
prive them of the Right of freqaent Elcfiions, wUch chqn
arp now entitled to by Law, cannot be ftppoftd a jm.
per Recommendation to their Fatoar j and it WM itMnAn
convenient to remove thit ftumbllng Block one of dtt Way*
that the AdvocatM for the Bill might argue and vote with
greater Afluran«. But I h<q>e the RcfolediHH of thbO^
will folly make appear, how &Ue and groaadlda tlaie aod
fach like Sasgeftioos «Ck and that wc casnat b« dcttned
irom a foithnil Difchaige of the Tmft malad ia oi^ or
influenced againft it, by any Mbtirei w ConfidoitiaBt whM-
foerer ; and that thofe Geatlcacn paiticalariy, wto la«c&k
long in Parliament, and .on all Oocaiioiii Jiav* lb wortUlp
diifanguiflied themfelvts, by bniig tlw gieateft Adwf
for the Rights and Ubcrtics of tha Pec^^ w9l m tUi
Time fhew Ae World, that they eoatinne tod aad flndf
to the Principles they have always pioftJfcJ. I tlMnAn
hope^ that a Law which even the worft Miniftiy, ja At
worft of Pftriiaracnti, never had the Widbedoefi to att^H^
will not aAually be eftaUiftied under the baft Adniaito-
lion, and in the beft Parliament with i^iidi thia Nita
was ever blefled.*
Mr Hanipdetis SPEECH
In D t F I K c E of die
PEERAGE-BILL-
[Sfi P01* S03.J
Mr Speaker,
A S 2 Member of this Houfe, I conflder n)\-lelf u
jfj, ihc Tnitlw of xhoh whom I rtprdcnt j engaged in
noooDr to gnard (hofc important Trulls that are rrpoffd in
me, « well ai to dtfcdil the Privileges of the Hoofc I be-
loBg to. By this Rule I m»furc ray Daxv, that whatever
netr I^w \i cotitnr)' to, or deAm^Ve of[ ihofi* Trafb, I
am bound to oppole ii : but that whaiever new Law Is agrM-
able CO them, confidercd in their tutural Ititent and Meaning,
and confiAcnc with the Dignity and Privileges of aiir Houfe,
I am at Liberty to vote for it : nay, 1 am indeed obliged lo
<fa> ib» if it be found for the Good of the whole Commu-
nity, or to hire any Tendency towards making the future
Coniiition of thofe I reprefent, and tbofe with whom I ftr.
better and faapfocr.
* I make no Exception here, even of thofe Laws which
nort nearly touch the principal Branches of our Conflitu-
tion, provided they touch rot the Vital* and Eflenrtals of
Every new Law if certainly an Alteration of the Coo-
tiofi in Tome Senfc, u it gives or txilces away feme Power
Of Privilege not enjoyed, or enjoyed before, by the Crown.
^-SaC thefc new Laws added, or old ones abulifhed, every
Hpiy, do not iffcft the VitaU of the ConftirarioD. The
^Hing i) lUU the Executor of the Laws, tho' ihofe AllcratJopi
Hvuke a daily Change in hi* executive Power ; but in the
J Cftle before ui, bec^ufc the Bill prapoi'd is cxprcAy decljred
to be dcfigned to alter the prefent Coodition of the Houfe
of Lord^ and becaufc that Houfe ii one of the Scatea of
the Realm ; th'a fcrmi to havr aifcAed fome Memben, at if
it were fomething more cfTcntiaJ to oor ConRiturion than the
Alterstioa of the King's Power, with hb oivn Confcnt, In
other new Ijiw. Bui aa the EfTcncr ol the Conllicarion
jj oof iii baring tht Number of l.ot^ uiit»Mn&e&, xw^
AIM «. Om. I.
I7J9.
|. tion,
^fthot
«4 4P.DENDA 19 tht Fikst Volume.
more than the Number of the Commons \ the limitation of
the Royal Power, with RefpeA to this, is no mom aq Al-
to^oo of the Conftitattm in its Eflentials, than the AUe>
nticMi of man/ odier old Laws or Cuftoma. Tlic King's
Power of adding new Lords in infiMttn^ is indeed hy the
Intent of this Bill ftopt and cut o^. But then ftill remains
» HooflB of Lords, and in the Cnnvn the Preng^itive of
making new Lords upon all Extinctions and'Failoies that
may be. And this bf ing no more than the tuniiag an on-
limited Power into a limited, or an Alteration of the Enr-
cife (rf one of the Powers of the Crown, it cannot poffiUy
be faid to difturb or aflicQ our ConftitutiiNi in its eflential
Parts.
The Ddjgn of the Bill in Ihort is this, ' That; on the
* Part of Scodand, in lieu of Sixteen EleQive Pccn, Twen-
* ty five fliall have Hereditary Seats in Parliamdn, to be
* 61Ied up, upon any Extjn&ion, out pf tl^e Peers of Scot-
■ land ; and that <hi the P^rt of England not mon than Six
* Peers may be added by the King, to the prdent Nnmber \
'. and all Failures to be fufplied by the Crown, oat of the
* natural bom Subjedts of Great Britain.* • This is the
Defign of the Bill : And the only Point of Moment is.
Whether this Alteration be of that Nature as that it can be
honourable and becomii^ us, as Members of the Honle of
Commons, to concur in it.
' In the firii Part of this Deiign which ^elates to Soitlaiid,
the increaJing the Number of Scotch Peers, by the Addition
of Nine, is the reafonable Coofcquencc of the Incrcaie of
Engliih L<ords fince the Union, in which it was always de-
ligned that feme Proportion (hould be kept between the
Lords of each Part of the Kingdom. Nor can we, io the
whole, (hink this Proportion too great. The changing their
EleAioa into Hereditary SuccelTion, is to accommodate their
Condition to the Condition of thofe Peers with whom they
fit. Bsfides, by this Means the Heads of the Noblcft Fami*
lies m Scotland may fit in Parliament ; and they particulatly
who have former Claims by Patents may be called thither,
to prevent the fatal Confequence% of a repeated Refbfal of
thofe Clainu, which is uciverfally in that Country lot^'d
iipon as an open Breach of the Union.
' I have heard feveral of the Scots Feen declare in tbt
firongeft Terms pofTible, that they would never have fat
* mittcd to lit by way of EleAion, but in Hopes of meetu;
with fucb a favourable Opportunity of altering it ; and thil
all their Acqu.iintance, and their Principals themfelvn.
, knew their Sentiments upon this Subjed. And if fucb »
Alteialioiv, {u^^ofo^ it for the better, as it makes the Sena
Loids uvuciU moxc vc^c^^ActA v^Tk*oyuXA-u»lMinifier,
ADDENDA ts /it First Voluub. ^5
not to be made without the exprefs Confeni of their
tdpih. who hat-c a prcfcat Perioral Right to be Eledora
ElcAcd, I would naly propoTc theti» that it is in-
}te to come to juch a Confent, bccaufc the Aigumenc
sg taken from Pcrfonal Right, will make the expiefs Cod-
Tent of evcrjr individual Peer ntccSkry, and not only the
~ jfeni of ■ Majority : That the Pcen not nominated at
have mil a Chance of being Hereditary Peers of Parlia-
11 upon any Failure ; which is certainly a tnorc honour-
Condition than their prefcni : And that the Union itfelf,
which thift is only a Circumftance, was ciFe&cd by eleAed
altering, la the molt ciTcntial and important Joints,
Condition and State of their EleSori, wJuout any Coo-
tof theirs, obtained or fought after, or fuppofed. It
}re there is an Union, notwidiDandug that tfacPritid-
the Scot! Commons were never fo much as fuppofed
any Confctit [ ibere may be an Alteration of the
iHancei of that Union, without any (Lch Coruljtino.
[nd they who infiA To zealouny upon thii Argument, Unulii
[ft dedarc that there is and can be no Union, before the/
re it tmpolEble In Jullice to mend aiiv fuch Circum-
ice bcfonging to I'r. For if this be impoJfitlc. the Union
loone At all i nit if the Union be good and right* or to be
patncxined, then this Alteration u not impoffiUe in Jdlice
id Lquity. I might idd. that iho* fome other Articles of
Union arc declared Fundamencat and ElTential, yet no-
of thill Sort is declared, in the Ad of ParllamcDr,
ing the Flcflion of the Scots Peers.
The great Point to as, I think. Is the deienrnnifig the
fumber of Petri in tl>e Houtr of Lords for the fmurr, and
hmiiing the Crown in the Prerogative of making Lords,
this can aJFrfl the Puhliclc. of which we are the Guar-
tru i or the fcvcral Branches of the LegifTaiiire, ivr all
we ought to have a Concern ; or our Houfc in par-
sbr in its Dignity or Power of ddog Good : Thefe are
at properly lie before ui.
A* a Member of the Houle bf Cttmmom. T am obliged
only to have a great Concern for that Part of the Le-
iiaie in particular, but the Whole and every Part of itt
no One Part encroacbei opoa Another 10 the Detri-
it of the Whole ; that the Billatice be a; ftfiftly and m
^cdy preferv'd as pofTible i that no One of ih« States b«
roogbt tnco Contempt or Dilability i and that our own
|oa» in particular, or thofe we reprefent, do not fuffer in
InlUnce, by the LoTi of any Good, or by the AC):effion
amr Evil,
' W^tb a View to theft Pointi, I con£der what will be
EffieA. if Thii Bill pafln t and what will be the Confr
c z qufticr
1:19
j6 jfODEffDA to tht FiKtT Vollwi.
queac«> if ihts, or fomahipg like it, doa not poji.
t)ic Crown it fclf. ruppoTiog uie Btll u> pdA, t&ere «31 >
deed be a Power rcftraincd in the Lxcfcifc of ir. Bd
Power ^ Why tiuly the Powci of nukiog Lonli
Occaiions. in all Events, and fur all PofpoCa t
And this Power lodged in every King for ever.
therefore reflratru a Power zlntofl too vaft to be
carried already to a great Exccri i procecdiog is ercr li^
to greater ; and ftilT to go on, iu long as fucb a^avcfr
incni, with fuch a Houle uf Loidt fti mufi be ia cae, n
keep up any Dignity ; \ might tiave (aid. can preiEm^
Bang. It reflnuDs a Power wliich mull of NccHIkj, s>
nuiiml Courlc of many Reigns, dttlroy all che HoMMrai
Digniw of the Stites, wbicb I am concerAcd acd i§^
to prclerve. /Vnd bcfido thtt, ai a Commoner, cattpj
Ijbly be difagreeable ro me, that a Power io tit Cmi
Ihould be retrained, which is it leaji ax liable to belted
ai (o be well ufcd ; perhap« more fo, if w« conUa
Men, relied wi:h Power and ?i£ioai aju! Impei&itaM,
generally ihew themrdvcs to be.
* If we come now to tbe Hoafe of Xorda U iHi
Bill, if it paiTn ioco a Law, w^ confiae Uir N
Fcen io it to wiut it is at prrfcnif with the AdiicicB
fore mentioned. Wfwt evil ConfcqiKOCc», or ill
can have in the Uoule it fcif, in Comtmiroa of
trary. will the better appear, if yoa will ^ve
make a SuppoCtion, which w very allowable hi
tho' I it:u It would never be %'crificd in Pnhfticc
therefore ihst the prefent, and all taccecdiog Kian^
lalie sn abfolute Rcfolucion not to add to the Nia
Pecn, but to keep them exadly what ihcy are. ooiy Ir
filling up the Kailures in Familiea which may hapm. l«
me aft yon, It tlirre a Man, is there a Member of tht HaA
of Common^ who, abllra^cd (ram psivate and rrftk6 ift-
bition and Impatieocc of w^Ctng, would itot ratftfr ifl»
mend furh h Rrfnluiinn, as Wtldom and Re^nl to (te P^
Iicic I than coademQ it ai Wtakne6 or FoUy f .^^ad
with refpcf\ u> any accidcotal eril Confrqueacta, thb
f>ut the Houfe of I.ord) exafily into tfas £udc
which the prefeni Bill would leaire it TKe
Decrcufc of the Inflgence of a Court in that Uodct
Management of a Miniflry. and the EAAa of thai
rnent : nay, and the Fonnidablnicfi of Uux doUr
felf ( nvold, m all Rcfpe£b, Oand exMfUy whoe they
now Hand if thii Bill paiTa intoa I^w. And yc: oo fl«
I prrfumr, wouh! t."u fnch a Rd^IflttOQ. fithcr with V^
-■<' C'X (. ' Defign -. becaufe it if eridcm that, by iha
M-.iTi'., ui.-j.\Na^ »\, \ei&. iA (bJtuR\ thceutfh tlw Bi^ ^
NiKOV
ADDENDA to tbt First Voiuux. 37
Xtfrd* what is agreeable to a Court, tbo* never fo bod io it Ame 6. cm. 1.
felf, or of hindering what is dilagrceable, tho' never fo good '^^
m it felf, is entirely cut off. It is our Intereft, and the In-
tcreft of the Publick, that the Coafolutions of that Houfe
lliould be free ; which they could not be {aid to be, at a
^nme when the Cro\vn poured in a Number of Lords to
carry a Queflion in Danger. And by this Bill one Way, at
leaft, CO that Freedom is laid open and made fecure for ever.
* With refpcA to Our Sehxs in this ASaix : One Thine
the Commons, as the Guardians of libeny, have to wim
ibr, is, that the Lords fhould be as little under the Influence
of a Court, as fuch a Body can be fuppofed to be. Now I
would alk. Is it a fmall Number, or a great Number, in
that Houfe, which can render it moft liable to this great
£vil ? I am confident, it will be granted that it is the Small-
ne& of [lieir Numbers which does it. Nor have we ever
heard of fu mauy and f<j confiant Compliances with Courts,
■• in thofe Times when they were not half the Number of
what they are now. This Evil is prevented by the great
Number which is ftill to be left ; and without doubt wiU be
conftantly kept full : A Number a litde too large, I hope,
fat the Purle of a Court, confidenng how great an Occa-
fion there is for Money in other Places, fuppoCng the Con-
duA of Men to be influenced by fo bad and fo bafe a Mo-
tive. Where therefore can we flop better, than where we
flioald applaud our Kings for flopping themfelves ; when
there is a Number [us nearly as fuch Things can be calcu-
hittd} great enough 10 take off the Superfluity of Dignity
and Power in that Houfe ; great enough to be a Bar againft
die moft fatal Managemenu of bad Minifbn, by the fole
Influence of Polls and Profits t and yet not great enough to
ocate any Danger to the Whole, in any other Rcfpe£l, if
it be flop*d at once effectually. I appeal to you, if any
Commoner can ever wifh or hope for the Good of the Pub-
lidc, to fee a Number of Lords exceeding Two Hundred
and Thirty Five ; nay, whether we ever wiQied to fee fuch
m Number as there is at prefent ; or ever thought any other-
wiie of the Additions made in late Years, than as of fome-
tbing not very wife or politick. And if fo, I hardly think
we can jullly diffcnt, upon any very plain Reafon, from the
Confinement of that Number now defigned.
■ Another Wifh I have, as a Commoner, 11, that there
may not be a perpetual Incentive to the Ambition of our
Bianben, to leave their Seats with us ; as has beer, of late
obfenred ; which I have always thought co reflcft a Dif-
faonoar and Ignominy upon our felves. Nor fliould there be
wiDting, at die fame 1 ime, as many Opportunities as can
fcaibnabl/ be thought fufficicnt, for the iew&r^»<^ til v\v%
3^ ADDENDA ta tht First Votnu*.
Amti Cm. L Merits of Conmibnen. This Bill, if it pafles, Will, u fiij
'^^ - . as can be judged, very moch contribute to thefe two FoialB.
I do not mean, it wilt perfeftly pat a Stop to AMiaftioM
^d Solicitations ; becaufe there can be no fuch Thiof hop-
ed for, whim there is fuch a Thing a* a Houfe of Lords.
But as, on one Hand, many tannot be called up logetfaer ;
and, on the other, therfe WUI be fome few Vacancies bdc-
rally in Expe&ation ', One cannot think 6f a better Mmnri
than this, at ona for the Encouragement of good Scnrkcs
in Coiiimoners, and for the making them more oomeitt and
eafy, in applying themfclves to the Ba£ne& of the Houie,
and lefs retUefs and impatient to be called oat of it. And ■
this yon will eafily agree in, that, afler the Paffiiw of this
Bill, when ^ Comlnoner fliall be called ap for the fbtarc,
he will be called up to an Honour much more valoable and
diftinguifliing, than he is, in the prefent Conditiaa of that
Houfe. I have often thought that the Dignity and Rcpo-
tation of od- Houfe has iunk, in Proportion to Ae great
Levies, if 1 may fo fay, made out of it ; or to our Mcmben
voluntarily preiGng and thronging into the other. And I
think here is a Remedy ai eflmual as can be expeAed.
* But there is another Way of confideimg this Qodboo,'
and that is, by fuppofiog this Bill n6t to pais; and thlsPonrer
in the Crown to continue infinite and unlimited, as it now
is ; and by weighing the Confequences upon this Suppo£-
tion in future Ages j to which I hOpe we all mean to mnP
mit our Cooftttutioii, tfnhurt in its eiTential Parts.
' Suppofiog this, I fay, the Crown will indeed lemalri
poflelTed of a Prerogative : But a Prerogative, the Exerdfe
of which will come to refleA Shame upon itfelf^ as well u
upon thofe who will Hill partake of the Benefit of it. The
Crown will have a Power, which will, I fuppofe, be fixn
Time to Time exercifed ; nay, ' which mull be fuppoled lo
be exercifed to a great Extent, whenever any Mtoifby Onll
have any Dcfigns to carry forward by it. The Power of
the Crown will be untouched indeed ; but the troe D^;iiiH
and Glory of the Crown will be far from being untooched.
It will be a Power, the Benefit of which at lafl no Man
of Honour will either feek after, or accept ; and fo mOSbr
exercifed, whenever there arifes a real or fuppoled Neoet
fity, upon Men of a different CbaraAer.
* The Houfe of Lords, foppoling the Exerdfe of thb
Royal Prerogative to remain unlimited by the rejecting this
Bill ; which too probably will be the laft, as it is the firH
of the Sort : The Houfe of Lords, I fiiy, what will it be-
come in. Tlnve ? Who would not envy our PoAeri^ the
Sight of ioiAAe ot ttt\At^t'gwS!(Ws.^'a.'B!w«<if P«n? (>,
%r'ho wotAd Tint v^^'qA >Xk ^^^ tna ^^wSBSjaiteb. neb.
JDDENDA nthe First Volume 39
at fjch a Time t if it can be then called Oar Conlli-
3on ; when ic is inpoffibJc to fuppofe that Men ofWorth
Virtue witi be prevailed upon 10 help to ^11 Uut Houic ;
I when yet it malt be fopw»c4 that others will do if, to
fwer the particuUi Occauomofa Couxt, and their own
IccclTicics, or Ends, at the Tame Time ? We qu^noc have
meaner Idea of a Houfe of Parliament, than this gtres
1 nor 3 more dcrtniAivc one to the Nature of our Con-
lotion [ nor a more fatal one to the whole Cominanity.
a> we ought equally to guard againlt tlie formidable>
the jgnominioua Eflate of thai HouTe } as well aj the
lour and Injury of the whole Conftitutioa ; I think
cann«t with to Ice the Number of Pccn to go on aad io-
as picy mall do.
But if you {ay, the Nature of Thiogi will ibp this
ril without a Law for this Purpofc : I wilh it were fo, is
>bability : becauic then I am furc this Bill would be prov-
reafonable by this very Argument. For if it be rcafon-
le that this Increafe of Numbers Ihould ftop t you muft
net find out that Poinr at which foch an Evil will Hop
If, which is bcyotxl the Wit of Man to do ; or yoa
concur to ftop it the firll Opportunity you have, at
a Number 31 might be thought tolerably reafonable,
.far as fuch a Nfatter can be ulculatcd. And again, if
ibemfinable thjt this Incrcarc {hould flop romcwhere j
linly there can be no Argument againft Qoppiog it tiow,
tlrfi it be this, that the Number of^ Peers propoicd ii too
ik i nay, that it is remarkably very much too little f
there is no ftanding upon Niceties in fuch a Cale. But
One, I believe, will fay that the Numbcn of Peers
fed is too Hide. Hitherto tlie Complainu have been
I tbc n^ttary Part ; :ind no One could (uy this, who muQ
by the Cunc Breath, condemn our Princes, Ihould they
rdolvc never 10 augmCTt the Nomber. But indeed it
(6 far from being likely that this Incrcafc will ever flop
' itfcif, in il)e Courfe and Nature of Things ; that the Con-
ry mud be certjin, as long as ic is certain that there will
t too often, in all Agei and ^1 Reigns, Debris to be carried
which will call for a fudden Tncreafe of this Number j
always Men in the World capable of accepting a Call^
the Bcne6t of fuch Defigns. And thi<» I think a very
}rable Confideration, fappofing this Bill not to paO.
M to our Eloufe, ana its Members ; and the Inteielt
the Commons as foch ; belides that it is our AHA In-
eft and Duty to prrferve the whole, by the due Balance
'its fcvcral Parts i I fhall only lay, upon Su|^Ction of
iicr of Ixjrdi continual Tncreafe upon the rtjcfling
'..'ut neither our Freedom in qux ELc&iott^ «it Qra.t
4© ADDEND ji to tit Firjt Volvue.
Votes, nor our Honour in being at an/ Time caUed ap to
the Hoafe of Peers, can be (aid to be To great and fo nla*
able, as it will otherwife be. In the Affidr of our Eleftiou
before we fit, and our Proceedings whilft we fit, the io-
creafing Nnmber of Peers, which muft be vaft in Tine,
will have a great EffcA. and not a verjr good one ; per-
Iiaps indeed in a fmaller Proportion in our Day>, bot in
a more hxa\ Manner in Procefs of Time ; in thofe future
Times, to which we ought to extend our Concern, if we
IiaTe say true Regard for oar Coontiy. It will be a
fmall Comfort to nie Commoners of Great Britain, e-
ven if they have a Mind to keep up too* remarkaUe ■ ^•
ftinftion between themfehm and the Peers, to think chat
the Number of Peers increafing ( as it muft do without thii
BiB) does itfelf make the Peers contemptible and mean in
their own Honfc and in fome other RdTpefb ; whilfl this
very Number, fo perpetually increaling, muft itfelf, aa I
apprehend, give them a much greater Power and InRoence
without their own Doors, and within ours, than they could
otherwife have. For, even fuppofing diem, in Time, to
be many of them Perfons but of indifferent Fortunes in the
World, or the like ; yet by their great Numbers, being
difperfed every where in every Comer of the Land, and hav-
ing numerous Defcendents, Relations, Acquaintances and
Dependents, this very immenfe Number mull be a Weight,
and a very great one. Their Influence in Elections ofue
Commoners mull be vaft : and their Influence afterwardi, ta
the Houfe of Commons, muft be proportionable, after the
Ele£Uon : in carrying Votes, in forwarding or hindring any
Law ; and the like.
' There is another Evil for which the Commons of Great
Britain have always ufed to wifli to fee fame Remedy;
and that is, the fkreening of evil Minifters and evil Cobb-
fellors from the Cenfures and Impeachments of our Hoaft.
What more natural Way for a Court to do this, elpeciallf
fince a late Fjcperiment, than to croud into the Houfe of
Lords a Number of Peers upon fach a great Occalton ? Sup
pofingthis Bill not to pafs, this Evil remains without a Re-
medy : And it is an Evil which ought to affcA every Mem-
ber of the Houfe of Commons, in a very peculiar Man-
ner.
* It has been atledged that upon fixing thus the Num-
ber of Peers, they wilt think thcmfelvcs the more powerfiil ;
and many of them living in a very Expenfive Manner, anil
perhaps the more fo after this, that the Fate of our Lawf
may come to depend upon fuch as have made themleltrs
poor, and conIeop.cT\tVj ^\aMt^Via.CQurt. This is aSpeca-
lation, 1 coTvWs VJ^V ica.>i ^'iSJii^'j'^wwtxrae.'wi.^ifl^if
ADDENDJte /i/FiKar VoLUMB ^i
]roa can fuppofe any Pcrfon to refolve lo make Jiimfelf
poor merely for the Pleafure of being 2 Slave ; or that there
mil be one Peer more or lefs expenfive on this fole Ac-
count. But fuppofing this to be podible and probable both ;
I fiill fay, it is better to run the Rifque of this which is un-
certain, and to have the Fate of your Laws depend upon
ibnie who Ihalt Toluntarily make themfelvcs indigent ; than
10 have the Fate of your Laws, or of any publick Defigns,
dqpend upon a Number of Perfons at any lime to be called
B|^ AS a King or a Minillry fliall think fit : Which is not
the poffiblc uncertain Confequcnce of not palling this Law,
but the certain and unavoidable one ill Timoi to come. And
to prevent an uncertain Evil, t can never pcrfuade myfelf to
nin into a certain one.
* It may be faid perfaapsi that our Liberties have hitbet-to
fiibfillcd under the ExerciJe of this unlimited Power of the
Crown i and therefore may ftill go on, and continue in a
very good Elbite, without any Limitation tO it. liut thii
Way of arguing is very unhappy, becaufe it is equally good
againil making any new X^ws ; and efpccially againll pre-
venting any probable Dangers to the Publick ; which 15 the
Eiai Buftnefs of ■ Parliament to do ; and of much greater
porunce, than to wait 'till they become perhaps too big
10 be remedied. We have not been ruined, therefore we
need not take Care to prevent Ruio, is but a very weak
Way of Reafoning ; and worfe than weak, where the Whole
it concerned. The Attempt has once, in a very remark*
aUe Manner, been made; and there were few, I believe,
who did not think it a fatal Precedent, fuppo£ng it to have
tesa made even for a good Caufe and a praife-worthy End.
What has been done may be done ; what has been done in
ft great Degree may be done in a greater ftill. What might
have ruined us once, may ruin us another Time. To pre-
vent that Danger which might have come heretofore, and
nay come hereafter, in one certain Method at leait. Is one
£nd which will be anfwered by this Bill.
* But it may be faid, that all the Evils arifing from the
Crown's m^ng a great Number of Lords at one Time, to
carry any one great Point, may be prevented in another
Way, either by enaAing, That Lords fliall not vote in the
Houfe tilt a Year or two after they are created : or by con-
iniog the Crown to a very fmali Number every Year. It
niiA be owned, that thii might poJSbly remedy thofe Evils
particularly ; but it is not at ^ certain that this would do it
effDfiually, fuppofing Coaris to lay their own Defigns long
before-hand, und to have any Skill, as ibme have had, in
the Choice of proper Perfons. We Commons fhould re-
ncfflber, I think particularly, that thste wm 1. Tum 'M^itb
f ^%
i7i».
44 M)DENDJ to the First Volomi.
Aanofi.GM. I. the Power of (he Crown was untixnited as to onr owt
Hou& J and could give to new Boroughs the Pririlegp of
iewUng Members. And was it not a great En], that Couita
could choofe fuch Boroughs for this Furpole. as tbcy knew
Wou'd carry on their Defigos, and ele^ fuch as thejr jbookl
flominate ? We reckon it a Happinefs that this Evil, which
threaten'd the Freedom of our own Houle, is now aned hy
the Confiaement of our Numben. And fliall we txay the
other Koofe the lame Freedom, equally good fat the Pab>
lick, which cannot be procured fo ^iSually, is b^ the
fame Con£aenient upon which we reckon our own to fub-
fift ; efpccially, confidering that the Method propofed infiead
of this, muft by Degrees make an Increafe of Lonls vaflly
difproponionate to the Commons ; and, by calling op rich
Commoners, muit make that Houfe, of which we are Jb
jealous peculiarly on the Account of Property, I will noc
fay, to reprefeht Property, but what is more, to pofleb tXr
molt all the Property in the Nation.
* Let us be as jealous of Minifiers as we onght ; that n,
fls jealous as they give us Occafion to be. But let not chat
Jealoufy drive us out of the Temper, with which twtxf
Thing propofed to us 4eniands to be confidered ; nor dircn
us from balancing the Good and Evil on both Stdet; aad
determining our felves by that BaUnce. I leave my {elf
open to new Light; but, 'till that comes, I will be b
free as to add, * Let it not be faid by our Pofteriqr ^ it
< be, I fear it will be &id with no very kind Refle^ioni
' upon us their Fore-fathers} that there was a Time in Gicu
* Britain, when there was a King upon the Throne who
* had the Goodnefs fo uncommon, as to be ready to recede
* from bis Prerogative, in order to put our Conftinuiai
* upon a Foot of greater Certainty and greater FreedoBB I
' and that there was a Houfe of Commons not difpoled to
* make Ufe of a Conjuncture, which the Nation has little
' Reafon to hope ever to fee again as long it cootioaa ii
* Being.'
Mr
^DDBNDJ t9 thi First Volwmb.
43
Mr Hutchefons SPEECH
In the DEBATE concemiag the
Number of Land-Forccs for the Year 1 7 1 S.
[Stt Pmgi IJJ]
Mr Speaker*
TH F. fifft FootiVps ! find of a Standing Army in Eng-
larvd, fincc the Rotnint Wh Uic Ifland, >ircrc in Riciurd
tit? Secuiid'i Time, who niii'd Four Thoulkml Archen in
Cbcfhirc. snd Tuffcr'd them to plunder, live upon free Quar-
ter, beat, wound, ravifh and kill wherever they went ; and
aiurivarda be call'd a Parliament, CDCompafs'd them witb
>ha Archere. Ibrc'd them to give ap the whole Power of
Pftrltamentt, and nuke it Treafoa to endeavour to repeal
May of the aibitniry ConAitutions then made : fiat being
sAerwardt obliged to gn la Irebnd to fuppreft a Rebcllioo
tiwre, the PeOi<b: look Advantage of it, and dethroa'd him.
' i'hc Nation hjd fuch a Specimen in thii Reign of a
Standing Army, that I don't liad any King from hit Time
to that of Cbarlei the Firft, who attempted to keep up an/
Forres in Time of Peace, except the Yeomen of the Guard,
who were condicuced by I-Ienry the Seventh. Aod tho'
there were fcveral Armies rais'd in chat Time for French,
Scoich, Irifh, and other foreigtt and doineftick Win ; yet
they were conftantly diHiandea u foan as the OccaJion was
over. And in all the Wan of York and Lancaller, what-
ever Party prrvad'd, we don't <iod tiiey ever attempted to
keep up a Standing Army. Such was the Virtue ot ihofe
Time<, that they woald niher run the Hazard of forfeiting
iheir Heads and EAates to the Rsgt of ihc oppofitc Party.
than certainly enflave ihcir Country, though they tJtemfelrta
CO be the Tynnts.
f 1 _ '\i«a
Afln«i
44 JibDEN'DJ te the Pmsr Volvui.
AMt4 CM) I. ' Nor would they fuffer our Kings to keep up an Amif
'"'L^ , in Ireland, tho' tiierc were frequent Rebellions there, ud
by rhaf Means their Subjeftton- Tery precailoas; ai wcQ
)cnowing they would foon be in England if aUl'd for. In
^ the-£rft three Hundred Years that the EnglJfti had PbOeffioQ
of that Country, there were no Armies there bat ia die
Times of War. The firll Force that was eftablilh*d, wa«
in the 14th of Edtvard the Fourth, when one Handredaod
twenty Archets on Horfeback, Forty Horfemen, and Fofty
Pages, were cDabtifh'd by Parliament there ; which fix Yein
after were reduced to Eighty Archen and Twenty Spearmen
on Horfeback. Afterwards, in Henry the Eigfath^s Time,
in the Year 1535, the Army in Ireland was three Hun-
dred ; and in 1543, they were increafed to three Hundred
afid Eighty Horfe, and fixteen Huodred Foot, which wai
the Elbblifhment then. I fpeak this of Times of Peace 1
for when the Irifh w<re in Rebellion, which was very fn:-
quent, the Armies were much more confldcrable. In Qaeen
Mary's D.iys the Standing For«s were about twelve Hun-
drcd. In moft of Queen Elizabeth's Time the Irilh were
in open Rebellion ; but when they were all fupprcfs'd* the
Army efiabliili'd was between fifteen Hundred and two
Thoufand ; about which Number they continued till the
Army rais'd by Lord Strafford, in the 15 th of Chatfas the
Firft.
* Our thrice hnppy Situation defends us from the Ne-
cpflity of a Sfnding Army, which the Indifcretion of
fome nf our Neighbouring N-itions have permitted, to the
Deftruftion of their Liberty. Bcfidcs, lying open to coa-
rinual Jnvafion, they cm never enjoy Quiet and Securitr,
nor tal:c a found Sleep, but HercuJes like with Clubs in
their Hands, So that the Halcyon Days which we for the
mod Part enjoy, muft be folcly attributed to our Tutelar
God Npptune, who with a Guard of winged Couriers fo
ftrongly intrenches us, that we may be faid in be mtdia /»-
fup^rabiUi nnJa, and not unfitly compared to the Eirth,
which ftands fixed and Immnveiblc, and never to be fliaken,
hut by an internal Convulfion. And yet we have much
Talk of a Standing Aijny which is to be in Time of Peace,
but no B'.->dy can tell us what they are to do : We knmv
thrir nftial Commiffion is to kill and flay, but where now
\^ the Enrmy ? Many talk of this with as much Certainty,
as if they were alreridy cilablifhed, and arc pleafed to af-
firm it necslTary to have a vaft Body of Forces continued
on Foot. Whereas the firft Projeft we find for a Standin*
Army, in the Year 1629. required only three thoufand
Foot in cor.'iant Pa^-, v.KicK were to brit!!;- the Impcrti-
tence of Par\\amtv\U» au^XQCNw-\M.'B.'OMi"^-i''A(i^»\Q ■m.Ake
one
JDDiNDAtttht First VottTME. 45
ifti to be Law), 10 force upon the People vail Numben of *""* <: ^^ *•
Exdret : and, in (hort, to overturn ine whole Fnmc of
chu ocUe Britifh Government.
* [ wonder i^hoft; Advocaiei thofe Men are, who talk
ib mnnlyof this Miu'lCT ; for I am ^lisf^'d none of thofe
Imtc Britons, who have fought honourably fur (heir Conn-
; erer freart, when tlir Service wa* over, to be a Charge,
o and Terror at home ; nor to drfntnchife us of two
Native Libn-ties, Freedom from Martial Laws, and
of Soldien ; and thereby diredUy to take away
Ifiemfelr:?, si well ai ftom their FcIIow-Subjefls,
Half of the Benefit of the Petition of Right, and in
Conlequencc the other Half too, [he Fredom of thcii Per-
Ct tdd ElLitu. Neithcf can it be fuppofed a gratifying
bli M.\!cny. to ell4bli(h greater Forces than h.ive been
J iniOi:nir Iteignit in Times of Peace. His M^Jefty
luu Oiewed and exprcfTcd fo much Tendemcfi and Concern
•or the liberties and Ea,fc of hii tiubjefti, and eren, when
the r^feccHity of the State fcemed (q require it, was (o very
outiotii in the Ufe of that Poner inveiled in him by the
' Pvlianieni. with refpcfl to the raifing of Forces for the
Defence of the Kimdom and the SupprelTing of ihe late Re-
belSofi. that every Body admired bii wonderful Refoluiion.
in tfuding his Rnytl L fe and Crown to fo incoitGdci.ible
ft Number of Traopi, in the mol^ dangerous Junf^.ure whtch
ilkr«ittTted both How ilten can it be imagined that H:t
MajeAy inclines to continue a fiuiden upon bin Subjrdi,
which be nui To loath toimpofe when the greatcll Exigence)
of Stace called for ii f ijut there are fomc Genttcoicn, who
ft few Vcap. I'lnce were rhe jrcterdcd Patriots of ihcii Coun-
try, who hud nothing in ihcir Mouths but the Oicrtd Name
of Liberty, who in itie late Reigns could hardly aflfbrd c)i«
Monarch ihe Prerogatire that was due to him, ai>d which
I WW abioliitHy necediiry to put in Motion this \1dchin*
' sf our Govcnimenc. arid to m.ike the Springs and Wheels
! of it aA nniurally and perfoim their Function ; I Cty, thefe
I Gentlemen, th.il in fone former Reign* could not with Pa-
1 tience hrjr of llir ICing'i ordinary Guards, can now dif-
■jtarfe familiarly of thiny thoufand Men to be maintaiaed
B Time of Peace. But let them not deceive ibcmfclve*, for
^lOppolnig they viin^ think to maUe their Court tU'n Way,
yctlhey would quickly find tbemfelves out B.<ricrrd by ti-e
Party ihey fear, who have been long the Darling of Ar-
bitrary Pow«r. and whof? Principles as well a» Prai'^ices
teach rticm to he Enrtnic* to all the lepal Rights and jult
■liberties of thrlir Nuivc Country ; and fo thcfc wreCcbed
llitnglert ttOtiM be made ufe of only co brin| together the
46 4DDENDJ to th« First Voluhi.'
MaterUlt of Tyraany, and then tnoft give Place to more
expert Architeds to finilh the Building.
* And tho^ we are fecure from any Attempt! of thk
Kind daring the Reign of a Prince, who pre&rvei u fioa
a Captivity that would be equal to what Mofes redeenad
the People of Ifrael fiom ; a Prince whole Life it fe necef-
fary to the Prefervation of Europe, that both Protcihutt and
Fo|»lh Princes have forgot their ancient Maxiiiii» tad laid
afide their imute AnlmoJitiet, and made it their cOBWai
Intereft to chufe him their Arbitrator : A Prince ia iriMm
we know no Vice, but what hat been efteemcd a Viitoe ia
others, his ondeferved Clemency to hit Enemies. Xfa,
was this moft excellent Prince to be immortal, we oapt
in Prudence to abandon all Thoughts of Sdf Prefer rarian,
and wholly to rely on his Care and Condod. Or hid
we as certain a ProfpeA of the Nation's being peipetnanjr
blefled with Monarchs, that (halt inherit hit Royal Viiw
tues as well at Kingdoms, at we have in the aen tnua^
diate Heir, his Royal Highnels the Prince of Wales, there
were no greu Occafion or Neceffity of appearing anxioos kt
tlw fiiture Welfere of our Country, more than fcr tht
prefettt: But ilnce no Virtue nor Pitch of Glory willci-
empt theTe Princes ^m paying the common Debt loNa*
tore i we ought not to intrult any Power with chem which
we do not think proper to be continued to their Socceflbn.
And doubtlefs his Majelly will not regret this, or 117
Thing elfe that can reafonably be required, in order to con-
pleat that Deliverance, and Happinefs of his People, fo fiu
advanced by his wonderful Condu& For to fet ui wkUl
View of the promifed Land, with a ne plus ultrm, it de
greatefl of all human Infelicities ; and fuch I Ihall alw^
take our Cafe to be, whilll a Standing Army rouft be km
up to prey upon our Encraib, and which mull in the Hanoi
of an ill Prince ( which we have had the Misfortune fit-
quendy to meet with } infallibly dellroy our Conftitution.
' And this is fo evident and important a Truth, that M
Legiilator ever founded a free Government, but avddtd
this Charibdis, as a Rock agatnfl which his Commonweslth
mud ceruinly be Jhipwrack'd, as the Ifraelites, Atbeaiaii,
Corinthians, Achaians, Lacedemonians, Thebaos, S^nn'''"
and Romans ; none of which Nations, whtlft they lent
their Liberty, were ever known to maintain sny Sijdiera
conftnnt Pay within their Cities, or ever fu&er'd any of thai
Subjeds to make War their Profeflion ; well knowing thU
the Sword and Sovereignty always march Hand in raldi
and therefore ihey trainM their own Citizens, and Teirii^
rics about them, perpetually in Arms ; and their wkk
Commonwealthc, by this Means, became lb many fbm^
MUitis'*:
■(
ADDENDjf /# tit FmsT VoLOui. 47
litia*s : A gcnenl Exercilc of th« bed of thetr People in aom «. (;m. l
t Ufc of Arn», was the only Bulwailt of ihcir Liberucs ; 1'*''
wu rcckon'd the furell Wsy to prcierve ihcm hotli at
xad Abroid, the People being feciu'd thereby u
;aeaitilt the Doineflick AffriHits of any of their own Ci-
agAinft the Foreign Invafioci of unbitiaui and
BWuly Neighbours. Their Arms were tKver lodg'd in the
llindi of iiiiy who had not an inierel) in prelerving the pub-
fide Peace, who fought pre arii i^ fodi, and thought
dwnCelvet fufficiemly paid by repelling Invaders, that the/
aiigfac with Freedom reiutn to their own Afi&tn. In thofe
Diys there was do Difference between the Citizen, the Sol*
dicr, and the Hufbandman ; for ail promifcuouDy took Arms
when ibe publick Safety requir'd it, and afterwards laid
ibcm down with more Alacrity than they took them up :
So that we lind among the Romans, the bed and bravell of
tbetr Generals came from the PloQgh, contcnledly ictuming
when the Work was over, and never demanding their 'I'ri*
•niphi, (ill they had laid down their Commands, and re-
dac'd tbemfelvcs to the Suite of private Men. Nor do we
&nd this famous Commonwealcii ever pcnnicted a DepoliiioD
of their Arms in any other Hands, till [heir Ejnjiiie in-
cmfing, Nccrllity conllrain'd iheni to ereA a conlbtnt Stipen-
iSasf Soldiery Abroad in Foreign Parts, cither for the hold-
iag Or winniitg of Provinces. Then Luxury increal'mg with
Soninion, the flriA Rule and Difcipline uf Freedom Toon
■tectd, and Forces were kept up at Home, which fooo
ptOvM of fuch dangerous Confei^ucnce, that the People
were forc'd 10 ra^t a Law to employ them nt a convenient
iSillaocc ) which was. that if any Gcneial marchM over
the River Rubicon, he (huuld be decUrrd a publick Enemy.
And in the PalUgc of that River, this following Inf^criptioa
WM crc^d i Imprral&r fai.i Milts, Jtv* Tuanjitu armatai
fmijfiiu Jiflita ; fsHxUtum armequt itf«mta, mte titra hunt
trttjiata. And this nude Crlar, when he had pie-
to pofi this River, 10 think of nothing but the
fing on to the total OpprclEon of that glorious Empire.
Nor did any Nauon deviate from thefc Rulei bat ihey toft
tlutr Liberty ; and of this Kind there are inhnite Kxamplei.
• The Story of Denmark i* fo very well known, and fi>
well related by an cAceilcn: Author [_Ler^i Meh/ivtrti^
_lhat it would be Impertinence m me to repeat uj only
I 1 will observe, that ii ilic King had nor had an Arm/
' Command, the Nobles had (tevcr delivered up theu
fovemmcDi.
Our CouniryouD Oliver Cromwell turned oot the Vtt-
It under which he fcrv'd j and this he c&cted by the
nee of an Array.
* Sotae
AMk>
4. Of I.
48 ADDEND J f tin Fxtvr VoLctft.
* Some People obje£l, (hat the Rrpablidcs of Vawx
Holland arc InlUnccs to difprove my AlTcrTiMi. »teM
keep great Armies, and yet hiive not toA ttiur Liborf. Tk
this 1 wl'wer, tkat neither keep any SoiMUaK Foravi
■he Seats of their Governtncnt, ihit it, tvittin tlwUtftf
Venice, or the great Town* of ^he United Prornccs. ft*
they defend theic by their own Burgher^ and qturter
MnccnATies fn their conqiici'd Countries, vix. ih« V^
liuii in Greece, and the Continent of Italjr, Mid ttaeOi^
in Flatiden. And the Sicaaiioa of thefe Sutci milai
Arniiri, Co polled, not dangeioos to them t for tW Vi»
tians cannat be aicack'd withooi a Ftoer, nor tin Aoi
be cvei conquet'd bjr their own Forces, their CoaM/rhaf
(a full of firong To\(iii. fortiff'd both by Art and NMMb
nnd defended b? their own Gtixeiu, tbu tc woiUkl
ftuitlefi Attempt for their own Arraia to invade tlni b
if they Qiauld march eg-iinfl any of their Cttic** 'a te
{hutting up their Gate , md the Dcfign ti fpoil'd.
' I would not here be millakcn, ai if J t^tvotxd a> h^
meDt agninrt the Qtiirtcnr.jr of Gaardi in and abewiwafe
of London ; for thei'c bcirg appoioRd for the Odia^M
Guard of the King and Rrj>.>l Faniily. are obliged bi b^i^
in all fuch Places wherever the Court rc(tde>. N'ctdvdl(
objeft againfl the tnaintaining of 1 comgetrm Noaharf
Troopa.fuch is have been aUownl our former Ki""- '-'-"^
inPay in Times of Peace: But that as Antiy at
find Kfcn Ihould ikiw in a profound Peace be V
is what no hoorft Man or ly*vcr of hi» Coootr*.
(o aifinn. And to return the Lift ObjcAion, (bo »z -.i^i
admit, that an Army might Iwconfiltcnt with Ffir4aa*l
Commonwcattb. yet it is otherwirc in x free Mmm*!?
for in the former, *tii wholly in the D)fpo£i] of tbc taiik
who nominate, appoinr, difcifd^ and pnnilK the GoBPA
and Ot!icers its they think fit, and 'lit cen.iin Deaifc to vi*
any Attempt upon their Libcniei j wltrnru ia tiK fats;
the King is perpetual General, may mndcf the Armf m l>
plealb, and it will be calt'd High-Trcafbn to of^Crh*
* This SubjV^ is fo felferident, that 1 am alinoA aftivV
n prove it ; for if we look through tbe World. «? £al
fii»d in no Country, Ldieity and an Arm v (Land f-*-
fo that to know wbethrr a People are Free or Sb^-
neceffary only to aUt. Whether there it >•• * —
tnongft them * This Truth n fo obvioot. th t
^c'd Advocates for on Army do not dkictu* ocm
qu.iUfy the Matter by icllii^ u», that a Namber '
cveding twenty nr thirty Thnufand Vr j ''
^\(nu ^ Kiuon u tbh. Njw Z iktt: -
4DDE ffDA' u t&« FiiisT Volvmz. 49
tiling u ccnaio Kuin upon us, u if they were as many ^'***;^
J4iUians, and i will give my Keafoos ibr it.
* It's the Misfortune ot' oil tJcnintrio, that they IbmC'
times lie uoder an unhappy Noceflity to defend themfelvei
by Amu againft the Ambition oi thdt Governor, aad Co
#igh[ for wh»t'i their own ; for if a Prince will mie aiwich
ft Rod of IroD, and iaradc tnir Lan-s aod Liberties, and
nciiher be prrvail'd opon by our Mifcrtcs, Sopplicariont, or
P^oin, we have do Power upon Earth to appeal to, and
ifaereibre muil patiently fubiiiit to our Bondage, or Aand
upon our own Defence ; which if wc are enabled to do,
we Ihall never be pat upon it, but our Swonls may grow
Tttlly in our Hands ; lor tlut Nation n furcll to live in
Peace, chat is moll capable of making W.-tr t and a Man
chat h2th a Svvord by his Side, Ihall £ive JeaA Occafion to
jnxke ufe of it. Now, 1 fay, if a King hath thiny Thou-
fond Men beforehand with bis Subje^s. the People can make
no EiTort to defend their Libettiei. without the Afliftuiceof
> foreign Pov-tt, which is a Remedy molt commooly as bad
ms the Difeafe t and if we have doi a Power widuo oar
''halves lo defend oar Laws, we are no Govenraient.
' For England being a fmnll Country, few ftroog Towm
ill it, tad thofe iu the King'!' Handi, the N'obiiiiy dilsrm'd
by ihe Deftruflion of Tenure*, and the MtHtia not to be
raii'd but by the King's Command, there can be nu FtKce
Jffvied in nny P^rt of England, but mufl be dcHroy'd in its
infancy by a few Regimcnn ; for whit will twenty or thir-
ty Thousand oake^d unarm'd Men iigoify ag.iinA as many
'i'roopi of mertrnary Soldiers ? Whar if they ftiotild come
Into the Field, and fay, Yoo mull chofe thcTe and thcfc Men
<yoax Re^efcuiativeK, WhCie is your Chaife ? What if they
■MMld iity. ParUamcoD arc feditious and factious AiTcmbtics,
«l»d therefore ought 10 be abolifii'd ; What ii become of
joer freedom ? if they ihould cncompafs thii Houfe, itnd
dmatCQ if they do not farrender up tlieir Govemmcnt, they
will put thcra to the Svrard ; Whnt ii become of )0ir Con-
ftjcooon } Thefe Thtngi may be under a tyrannical Pritictf,
wad hare been done in feveral Parts of the World. What
!■ it that ciufrth the Tyranny of the Turks at this Day,
bat Servant! in Aruu ? What is it that prefcrv'd the glori-
on* Comnonwealth of Rome, but Swords in the Hands of
i» Gtizen* ?
' I will add here, that inofl Nations were enffav'd by
fm^n Armie*: Olivrr Cromwel left behind him but twenty
i bo'jf:ind Men t and the Duke of Monmouth, who
the Datlmg of the People, was fupprcfi'd with two
ifAtid I nay, Cirfar feii'd Rome it fclf *iili fn'C Thou-
. and Tought iKe Baulc of Phari^, -^Sjok ^ Ti»c
Am» 4 Oc*. I. of
l7tT'
ADDENDA lo the Fiii»r Votu
V^orki was decided, with cweat]r*Cwi
Anit moll of die Revotutioni ot' the Roman and
Kmpirei fincc were cans'd by the pRtoriwi Baadi.
Court J:invs.-utes ; the former of wludi ac
Eight, Dor the bicer twelve 'I'h^m^-ind Men. Aad
gTe.-i:cr Number^ could tr.:il:c fuch Dilturb*AC<a in thdei
Empire', whjl wrli double or triple the Force do MChi
And thry th<:ni!"clvcs confcfs it, when they arjac I
Army t Jor tiicy :eU us. tve msy be furprtz'U witi
fifoxn TliouCiiid Men front i'rjnce, and tunng m i
i'orce to oppofc them, they wii aver-mn tbc
Moitf> if fo ftiuU 3 i'otce cjn oppofe the Ktsg, Ar i
with the United Pmircrof the Nobility, Gcaoryafldi
moo;, whu \(-ould an eqinl Howcr <ki agfuflil tkc
when fupporteJ by thv KoyoJ Auihority aad a nmrl
Iniercll that will iittesd it, except when it afl* JbrtaH^
lick Good?
' We are tol-J, this Army it not defignM ta be^i^t
Part of our Constitution, bur ti> be kept only tat a tell
Time, till the Circu of Europe, aod ni tin }oti^
iti pucicjiir, will (' ;t us tn be withou tiMm
I wouM know of [r.ck Cj^uucmcu. when they iIijk
Time will be. if it-u ooi iiow ? We are at prrfcttta
Bt ?c.irc ivith iill our Nnghhouri, but are alio ty"d
(umdl Alliftuce wiUi France, furmwly oar maH
£iiciiiy : Shall ivc Imie lels tn /car fmm fhc Prelt'-'c: s
tlic Crown and his Fncndi at any Time hcrxi.fin ._ .. ;
lliK prcfciit Time ? Or, ate wc Apprehcofirr
kct-p 'I'rMtics with ui ao longer than is c
own Intcrcll } Or. that (be will be more ohp
us jull after the Lite tediaui and canfarr.t^i. ,
muiy Yean hcrriftcr uh^fi (he bu had a'firr:)
to repir the C^lamitif* (he has fnfer'd t
c;i(i never diHund our Army with lb much -
Timei and t(ii% is tvcll knoorn by ibofc .\>!'
wbo Aft fnciffy'd that a Cofitimubob •
Hlliihtilhrnem oJ' tliciB for crcr : For
fljncri of Uurof c ibnd in the (•re/ent I'
will be ev]UAl to continue them i if tiic *
fliould alccr lo the AdrantaRc of I'rsr.cc. !
£10% flrongn, aod we /hAlt be i
Nunnbct. Bat if thcrr (hnuM Ik- i
t!)c WvrJd. that wc were no longer id
I icitth Fowe;, tttcrj- miiy Ik- Ley. tm w.
■ .ly, the very Didonuti'
:. .*,MT |t^'''f C l.'I (I'r ■■'■■•'I,,,... -J, .>.>.... ,,
t^r I'cofde, In 3 t
jfDDENDJ to thi First VoLtiMfi. 51
Cooftitation, and by Degrees we jball tie brought to beliere adm 4. gm. 1.
chem not only not dangerous, but necellary : For every Body . l}^2l.
ices, but few underiU^ : And thofe few will never be able
to perfuadc the Multitude that there is any Danger in thofe
Men they have liv'd quietly with for fome Years, efpecially
when the diibanding them will (as they will be made be-
lieve] coft them more Money out of their own Pockets than
Ko maintain a Militia.
* But we are told, that we need be in no Apprebeofion
of Slavery, whilft we keep the Power of the Purfe in our
own Hands } which is very true ; but they do not tell us,
chat he has the Power of roifuig Money, to whom no one
dares refufe It. For ^tis as certain that an Army will taife
Money, as that Money will raife an Army ; but if this
Courfe Ihould be thought too defperate, 'tis only Ihutting up
the Exchequer, and difobliging a few Tally- Jobbers, who
liave bought them for Fifty per Cent. Difcount ; and there
will be near three Millions a Year ready cut and dry'd for
them : And whoever doubts whether fuch a Method as this
is praAicable, let him look back to the Reign of Charles
the Second.
* But when all other Atguments fail, they call to their
AOiftance the old Tyrant NeceiTity, and tell us tlie Power
of France is lb great, and Treaties are of ib little Force
with that prefidious Nation, that let the Confequence of an
Army be what it will, we cannot be without one ; and if
we muft be Slaves, we had better be fo to a Proteftant Prince
than a Popilh one, and the worft of all Popifh ones, one
tinder the Dire^on of France. Now I am of Opinion, that
the putting an Epithet upon Tyranny is talfe Heraldry ; iia
Protellant and Popifli are both alike ; and if I muil be a
Slave, it is very indiiferent to me who is my Mailer \ and
therefore I Ihall never confent to be nilM by an Army,
which is the worft that the moft barbarous Conqueft can
impofe upon me ; which notwithftanding we have little
Reafon to fear, whilft we keep the Seas well guarded.
* It is certain there is no Country fo fituated for Naval
Power as Great Britain. The Sea is our Element, our Sea-
men have at much hardy Bravery, and our Ships are as
numerous, and built of as good Materials as any in the
World : Such a Force well applyM and manag'd, is able to
give Laws to the Univerfe ; and if we keep a competent
Part of it well arm'd in Times of Peace, i: is the mon ridi-
culous Thing in Nature, to believe any Prince will have
Thoughts of invadii^ u>, unleft he propofei to be fuperior
to us in Naval Power. For the Preparations neccflary for
foch an Undertaking will alarm all Europe, give both to us
and out Confederates Time to arm, and put our lelves in a
g 2 Po&u^
17I7.
jt ADPBNDJ 19 rh First Volvhi*
Pofture of Defence. And whoever coafiden^ thai (fae ftmt
of Orange with fix Huadred Ships bfoaalK fast
I'houfar.d M»i, and the oughiy SMaiHi AtmaAo,
Terrof of ihe WoHd, imbark'd Emc eighteen Tteibi^
will be a/Tur'd, th:it no itivaJion on be lo totdien wfta m,
bill tve (hall hax-e 1 ime 10 get rcad^ our whote Flce^ hil^
Ibme Forces from Ireland, and prepare oar om MAcm d
there {hail be Occasion for it ; elpecially in Ttraa «f fM^
when we ftiall have the Liberrr of alt the PortB of Font
and 0udl or may hare Intelligence frotn evciy oncof ih*.
' But they tell us fuch a Wind fnaf happcm M wuf
fkvounble to our Enemy, and Vxtrp oi widua o«
which, I lay. as France ties to EogUad* » alDwa
Ue : For if tve lie about Fahnouth. or the Land'i
no Fleet from Bxcll or the Ocean can efcape oa intketf
Miracle t and if the Defiwu be to invaiie cs froai avf
ro the Channel, a very Tew Ship*, which may (kfdfiii
Anchor, will certainly prevent it. Nor ta it co bt Oi
ceiv'd, that the French will be at a vaJt EaipcQce far
Cootini^aicy of fuch a critical Wind, or will find ai
into a Country where tiieir Recmt is certainly cut oC
the failing of any Part of their DeGgn wiH btilf ai
War upon thetn.
' And here I mud confcfi, that the Mifapcilicxiioiief 1
Naval Force, which is oar known Strength. io€ thde
Ycara ptJ}, is the Arongcll, aj it i> ib« moA «faal
mem uaintl me ; which unriddlca a Myftcty J (fid
derSand before, tho' I never wu To fool^ as to
ibe Erron of that Kind n-e:e rhe EAeCb of Chm
norance, or chat lofing To many Oppormiulici of
the French Fleet had not fomc extraordinary, tba'
Caufe t and yet notwithfisndiog the reJUelJ ActcmpCs
Enemies, and the paltry Pohtickt, and even Tia '
ibme precerding MiniUcn, ih» Fleet uiuraphaatly
O), ib that our F.nemie:t in many Yean War cottU aM
an Opportunity of invading our CoDUry.'
' It if objt^ni, that the Officen of oar Fkct Btyla
eormpted, or that a Slonn may arife, whkh muf
it all At once, and therefore we ooght to have twa
10 our Bow. By which 1 perceive aQ their Fcan
Way, and that they do not care, if they precipieur at •*
inevitable Ruin at Home, to prevent a dubnc Pntjtaliiy gf
it from Prance. But I think ihit Phantom itw mtkf he Ml
by a well trained Militia, and then all their Ba|haj« «d
T^tnilli. This Word can be do Iboocr oo<t btK thm'a a
VoUj-of Sman Shot let By at mc: Whac f tnnfl w« tnft
oar b;i<<ty co an andifcipjin'd Mob, who arm dnua'd «f
CghtiDg when they undertook the Scniot 1 wiM an eai
ter'4
wyla
FtllST VotBUC. J3
«Mr*(l u tbe Fatigae of m Cmp, or c*er £iw the Fice of
SB Batmy t And then dwy wmf^ify mfcwattiy Troop i u
if cWte was u intriafick Virtoe in a red Coat, or cbal a
RamuDuSio from Robbing a HenTooA. in tH-o Cunfaignu
cow be cudgdld mto a Hera. Tbo' I muft conlrfi (he
OoadnA of tiie Advocates far a Standiiw Annjr ioduflttoufly
cBemdng cbi> Fotc«, does in fone Mesfuic jufttfy tbeir
OljieAions : For (he dete^ble PoNdei of the Rcigm of
IUm Charl«i the Second and his immediate SuccclTor, wera
wm rbe utmoSt Art and ApciUcatton to difarm tiie People,
lai make the Militia ufclels, to couotenaoce a Sranding
Army id order to briog to Popery aitd SUrcry ; and if aoy
Methods were propoi'd to make it more ferrteeable, the
Court would net*cr fuffcr them to be debated ; and fuch
Qficcn as were more oealoiu in ExerciTic^ their Companin
tlHW otbert, were rcpnmanded, ai defigntng to raiie a Re-
tidlioo. I'hii ConduA was cxaAly jmitnied in the latter
Pan of Queen AnneVReign, when the Mi]i(ia of Fjigland
vat negleaed and difcountCBaDc'd. and th:tt of Scoikod at-
tempted Co be reduc'd to the Scudard in F.nclaru], by which
, Means that Force would have been ■mJrr'd ensircl)- iifrlefi
b that Pajt of the Kingdom, the firll Scene where the Eur*
Ay was to &(t the defigned bloody Tragedy j At>d when the
Army ilfelf was daily more and more reformed and mudclj'j
10 their Purpofe of bringing In the Pretender.
' And now it feemi fome Men in thu Reign ate tal;tng
iJie Adirantage of this traiieroiu Neglc^ and infaoioiu Fo-
^uicki, ol thofc we juft now mentiooM. But why may not
&_ Militia be made ufciul ? Why tnay not the NoWIity.
^Beiitry, and Freeholders of England be tnilltd with the
^^cfencc of their own Lives, Fjbtcs, aiul Libertiei, without
laving Guardian* and Keeper) afTten'd them t And whj* may
they not defend tliefc with as mucii Vigour and Courage aa
Mmciuriei who liave nothing to lofc, nor any other Tie i»
Mgage their Fidelity, thin the inconfidcnble Sixpenc« a
Day, which they may have from the Cum]ucror i
' Why may not a comptieot Number of Firetocb bc
kept in every Panlh far the young Men to cxcrcift with on
Holy-days nnd RewarJi effer'd to the moll ejcpeit, to Hir
up tfieir Emulation i
• Why may not a Tliird Part of the MiUUa be kept hf
Tunu in cohftant Eirrcife /
' Why may not a Man be lifted in tlie Militia, tiU ha be
difcharged byhtiMiaef, aswellasin the Army, ullhe be
difcharged by his Capnin * And why nay not the brae
Horfe be always fcnt forth, vnlcA it can be tnadt *ff*,
dead Of aaiaad f
.BUZ. ■
mj, I
j+ jIDDBNDJ tothiVit%r Vot-pMt.
* Why Rwy not the private Soldiers ofUic Anny, i
they are difpcrfcd in the fc^'erii] Parts of the IvEOgplvB
lent to the Militin f And why may not the irEenoc ~'
of the Army in foiuc Propoilion coouBaad thaa !
' I (iiy, thcl'e and other like Thingi nay be '
ibmc of them arc done in our own PlAfiCatknift,
Ifundi ot jcrf)- and Guetnfcy ; a* aJTo in PoUitd, tm
land, and the Country of the Ctrironx, which are IM
much Ie5 conliderable than El^nglaixJ, have u
Ncighboun, no Seas nor Fleet to defend them,
a MilittA in dcpctK] upon, and yet no one
thcrtt. And we b.ive fccn u gr»t. Perfoniuncci
merly by the Apprenlico of London, and in tbrj
the V'audois in &ivoy, the Miqaelcu in CMaloau,
Militu ID Ireland, as cm be parol lelrd in
ib it would lie with us, if the Court would gin
AflillAnce in protnoring iht» Drfign i if the Ki
pear la Perlon at the Head of thrtn, ind
and Honours tr> J'uch as deJerre iftem, we
ly fee the young Kol>iiity and Ceittry afipcar
ly in Aim» .md £qut|lage. llieiv a gencrouf
outvying oitc nnaihcr in miltttry Excmfiu, *t^\
tMible Atnbttion in mokixig ilicin4tv« kt^twaiJk i
Country.
* They olijcA, tbnt fuch a Militia t% dui til!
Anny, and will be as dangerotu, aiid modi mn\
nblc. 1 nr.(wcr,
* That there can be no Dangrr fitnn an At
the Nubility and Gentry of J'jicI^jhI »rc ti
and the Body of it matic up olilic t'rcchi :
and Scn'snu i nnlcG wc cm concciro ihai ■.
UcRiry will join in on untiatunl Drficn lo -
own Titles to their Ijlatts and Ubciucs ; .
enteiiAin fo ridiculous a Pro|K>ii»on, i:
obeyed by the Soldirn. who will h-'^
that fend than forth and p.>v tlKm. amJ lo v^i
return ?gain when dieir 'I'tinr itctpinxL FotJ
Man, I will as furely ctiufe oni- whn will fi^t
a merccfury Othccr will chule aiic that OaJj ^btl
And the Governmcnii of N>ng Charlci tM S<fl
King James, are Witneflb to tlicTruthof
b-iuched the Mi.'itia more thnn rs'cr I Immc
and yn durll nrvrr rely ujmn tWin to aM '
Defigns ; a» we nuy :ciii<:mbcr .it the bulcc of i
Invaboos their Officers durO nut liring ebon
for lear of a Revolt. Nay, the Pcrjlioi
fel;rei turned fhorc upon the Court, wb«a tJky
^ivc Uicm the finifbiiig Stntkc lo ouf Rum.
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ADDS KD A to iltfit^iT VoLUHS. 55
■ To the Ult Pan of the Objeflioo, That thii Mflitia tuMi-Ctct.
will he more cKiirgeable than an .^my ; I aiUWer, That
fince no Man propofes wholly 10 lay them aiide, it we add
the extraordinary Expcnce of maintaining t^venty ihoufand
Men to the ordinary Charge of the Militia, it is much more
than fj/Hcientlo make ihe laiier ufefai. But if this Objec-
tion were true, it ought not to enter into Competition with
the Prdcrvation of our I^ws .ind Liberties; ibir it is better
to give a third Part of my Ellate, if it were neccfliry. than to
have all taken from mc.
* And tho' it Qioiitd be granted, that a Milia'a is not as
Cervic(r;)ble as an Army kept in conltant JJilcipIine, yet I
belinc Ihcfe Gcotlcmen themfclvcii will confefs, fixty thou-
land of ihem trained as before, are ai good as twenty choti.
iiod of their Handing Troopf, which is the Qucllion > for
il is impnDibte to have them both ufcd at the umeTime,
they being as incompatible as broad ami dipt Money,
sever current together ; and therefore the Kingdom mull
depend v^holly upon a Militia, or die it will not depend
epon them at all.
* And this by the Way may filence that ObjcAion, thjft
wc mufi keep our Army 'till the Militi.\ be difcipiiocd 1
lor that tvill never be done wbilA the Court has an Aimy ;
ud the fame Objc^on will be made fcvcn Veat^ hence
as now i Co that even a fmall Army can be of no Ufe to a\
but to make our Fleet neglcAcd, to hinder the Militia
from beir.g trained, and enJlave us at Plomc ; for they are
too few to defend tu agaiall an lax-aiioo, and too nuny
^ Jbr the people to oppofe.
H * My Lord Bacon in fevcral Pbcei bean his Teflimony
^ngainft a Standing Army, and |>ariicu)arly he tells ut, that
Ha mercenary' Army is £ctell to invade a Country, but a Mi-
^litta to defriid it : becsufe the lirA have liAalci to get, and
the latter to protcft.
^ • I believe no Author ever treated of a Free Govern*
^Vmcnt, that did not expreU his Abhorrence of an Amy 1
" for, B!! my I-ord Bacon fays, whoever does ufe them,
iho* he may fprmd hii Keaihcrs for a Titne, he will mew
them foon after.
' Perhapa it will be laid, that the Artilterv of the World
it clianged fmce fome of ihofc wrote, and War u become
more a Myftery. and ihcretbrc more Ejtperiencc is neccf-
fary to make good Soldier*. But wherein uoes this Myllery
confilt i Nut in exerriftng a Company, and obeying a few
Words of Command ; thcfc are Myllrrie* that the Jullefi
Noddle will cntnprehend in a fi^w Weeks. Nay, 1 have
he-trd that the Modem Exetcife is much Ovortrr jnd eafier
chu the Aiic:cnt. Bjt the great [mprovcnciu: in War, arc
in
•TtT
$6 JDDBh'DA fe iht Fmftr Volvmb.
in regalir EncafflpmcQU, FortificftCios, Goaacry,
Engineering, &<:, ThcCe are Arts ODt la be kv^
much Labour and Experience, and are 21 much
the Clofct IS ID tbe Fictd ; and I foppofc, no ..,
fiijr, thai The keeping Standing Fproea ia MCcSanr ta;
% good Engineer.
* As to a^loal Exfiertcnce in War, that ta mC<
either to a Standing Army or Milicix, as Tvck 1
ftirmer may be without it, and the Utter gala it
as they ba*-e Opportunities of Adion. 'Ti* true _
fait the Anny hath been iniincd np in )onj[ Win,
kath eaincd great Knowledge : But thefc McA will m,^^
tolt when they are disbanded, they will beftillrai^D*
dom ; and if the Parliament doct give tbcm a GnafrC '
able to the Service they hnire dooe cb«ir
will be ready to ttTiune tbcir Anu wbcBcrcr
ttOXti.
* J conclude this SubjcA of the Militia with ite
vaiion, thii a Standing Army in Pace will grawfl
faninite by living diiToluiely tn Qtiartm, tun a
inat for the mod Part will be cxcrciicd wiih hui I.
60 lltat upon the whole Matter, a Standing AfOiy m
will be worfe than a Mihtia. arid in Wair a Mdimvi
become a difciplincd Army.
* But I deTire to know of tbcfe GcfllUciDca* b*«^
an Army nccrtTurv o our PrdcrvatioQ now. and aewl
the Conqnclt before in 1'inin of Rnoe f O^ na
vailing Party in the War> of York aad LatKater,
frnrel before, attempt to keep up a Scanding Aia
port thentfrlvrri f tVn : they had morv Sesfe tkaa
(ice their own T-iberry, and note Uoooeir than 3d
their Oxinlty, the a^nn nfily to arrf ott tbm a
Ciot). Wrrr ikot the Spjmiutls ai MHtrrFai, aa BDadl
and M much our Kn<rn:iri ii« the Prmcb faitclv wwj
nnt Ftind-f> a^ near m a% Fiance i And the Pof^iSt .— ,
i'l Qitecn KIi?ibeth*» i'lm'- sj •'•nogaa the Itenbicx i' ^t
And yet thit niit «rc.;: ■ -rti ni-vrr dnar
Sfsnding Aimy 1 hut th. n.tH Empire wa*
in the H^.irti of her .Sunjtti', which rht fb^Mvw :
fuffi<ricnTly fftifiM. When the Ookc of Alanr.^ «)
m F-ngljfid. nrA for Ibcnc Time lad adn
of th-- Ckr, the CnitduClof her Goremft--
pificeocf of hrr Court ; he utkr4 b^-r s.
do*, wlier^w^re her Guards t W'l- -'■
a f<*»v J>.iy* after, nbcn ftic mofc i
r>ic(_1n-, srd pointi-ig to the Ptrty- : "-■:'> rr-irjti
Or-^d-.wth Acclamation* I • TbHr, £ijd Am, m^
■ &w m^ Cj-ox;^ > i!rA^ ^ak% t!»x UuKlr, tiheir
JDD&NDA fa tie First Volumb. 57
• and rheir Purfes always ready at my Commaiid. And A""" 4. *o. 1.
thcTe were Guards indeed, who defended her thnnigh a
long and fuccefsfiil Reign of forty four Years, againlt all
die Machinations of Rome, the Power of Spain, adifputed
Title, and the perpetual Coafpiracies of her own Popifh
. Subje^ i a Security the Roman Emperors could not boaft
of with their Pretorian Bands, and their Eaflera and Weilern
Annies.
' Were not the French as powerfiil in Charles the Se-
cond and King Jameses Time^ as they are now, after the
long and deftniAive Wan wherein they have been fince
engaged } And yet we then tfaoaght a much lefs Army than
is now contended for, a moft infupportable Grievance 1 in-
Ibmach that in Charles the Second's Reign, the Grand Ju-
ry prcfented thcDi, and thePenfioner-Parliament voted them
CO be ^Nnlance ; fent Sir J. Williamfon to the Tower, for
laying, ' The King might keep Guards for the Defence of
■ his Perfon,* and addrefled to have them difbanded. And
now, which is ftrange to think, fome Gentlemen would
make their Couit, by doing what the worft of Parliaments
.could not think of without Horror and Confufion.
' They fay> the King of France was in League with our
late Kings, 10 France ia with us } and they would have
bnke it then, if they had thought it fafe, and for their In-
ccreft as much as now. But they add, we have more dif-
mSeBtA. Peribni to join with them ; which I mull deny*
fm I believe his prefent Majefty faath delervedly as much
Jnteieft as any of his Prodeceflbrs ; and if during the latter
Part of the late Reign, when the Intereftof the Pretender
was fo much advanced by the MiniJlry itfelf, and the
Fricndi to his Majefty^ Succeflkm affronted and difcou-
rwed 1 if during the late formidable Rebellicm, which was
mftd to dethrone and murder his Majeity, and the whole
Koyal Family, and to overturn the prefent Religion, Laws,
auKl Liberties of which he is the Defender and Protestor 1
I lay. If at fuch dangeroos Times he had fo many Friends,
cbere can be no doubt but in Times of Peace, when the
people reap the Frniu of that Condu^ he hath ihcwn in
their Defence, he will be the moft beloved and glorious
Prince that ever filled the Engtifh Throne.
■ I will aflert fiirtber. That the moft likely Way of bring-
ing in the Pretender, is maintaining a Standing Army to
keep him out.
' For the King's Safety ftands apon a Rock, whilft it de-
|ien4* upon the folid Foondation of the Affe£tions of his
People, which is never to be fhaken 'till it ts as evident as the
Sod is in the Firmament, that there is a new formed De-
iipi to overthrow our iMsn and Ubecdest whidk 1 ^\\iK
h *«*
t;i7_
58 ADDESDJ f* /**■ Fj«it Voldui.
vre }iAve 00 Reafon to fiur, when ? — '^i-*- — • i
Proviriom hit Mxjeliy b^is nuJe agaii .<
of dtat Kind: But if m'« keep aSkmuhk^ .■,-:ny,tili
pcndi upon ihc uniciUun jjuI uprioous Humcun « tW
Soldictv, which in a]l Ages b.i«e produCdi i&ote .
icnt f^udJeti Hevotutinns, (hin L-vcr h->ve bcca koiT'^
unarmed Gowriinirtiu . i-'or ilwfc u fuch a Cluui wc Jb-
p«nd.oicc amoc^il liuni. that if Two or Tiirec at iWdM
Olficen ihoulJ be uiiobt'gedr or hsvc Xatrcapsn mu ^i»
Lite MiitrrfTei ; or if a King of France omU imcc i^a
buy bit PciifiL^icr^ into the Court or Army, or efc 1
better Market lu I'omr ihu arc in ulreoJy, -mx dtlfl k«
anothrr Kthearr'il Kcvolution, uuj the Pc<^« bt ^yift
SpC^tOfS of their own Ruin.
* And whosoever cotilidri!i (he Comppnuof) ofaaJia/.
and doubu (hii, let hjro look back 10 ibc Rumu iKftt,
whcie he wil) iu-.d out oflMciay Six t'jnpcnm, &aa
dcpofed and murdered by tbeir own Armies N«r*
rhc Hiflory of the Woild u nude up of ^Tirr*n
this Kind : But we need no! go acy fanber ttun oor
Country, where we luve twice kept Armies in Xu
Peace, and both Times they turned out tbcir vmm
The firll under CfOiimcl, cx|)elbd that PirlaaHi
which tbcy hsd fought 100 '' -r nuav Va»f
afterwards under Gcncnl \ >ijd>tiJ tie
vernineni they before (et up, icd Ktu ChaiJa
Second ; and he afterwardi il 1 i jvm. In (kn '
hixc confpircd to exclude hiiu agua. The octet I
is ftclh in every one's Memory, htfw Kiog Ju&ei'a
jobcd with the Prince of Onn^t, aficrwania oor
and lawful King.
' And what could haw been opcftcd odicnvife
Men, who call thenuelns Soldiers of Fortun- • -
no ocher Profcdion or Subftancn to depend i.
10 lUr up the Ambition of Princct, and ensitvc -..-rcn ii 10*
peiua] Qtiirrcli, that they may Quie uT the Spoilt i^
nuke i Such VIen, ii'u« tome Sort of rsvenouii'tfit, ftMbdl
in a Storm | ud thtirfore wr ia.ir rcaAwabl^ foppofe Aff
~ "Id*, ioi
dead |i3
will be better pleafcd n '
at Was tliat uf the iate K
cious ." ' ■ ition of ;i.
'I.: . , titere i:
OncclciiciT. tirwr be rein v
to mikje the Difrndirc the
may nnt luppcr
Pariujnau. aitai .
welt as CtfcoWiuKr
Tcawiutbk IkCuo Q<i
-. wkich
cidcob
■ ■k DUW, wfcxk
•aJ and vBearrmfKd
>'' Cncliftac
jtDDENDjfte />5^ First VoLuui 59
felves, this will be always lb ; for if the Army Ihould be
continued, th^ may in Time be accounted Part of the Pie-
rogative, and then it will be thought as great a Violation
to attempt the Difbanding tbeoit as of the Guards in King
Charles the Second's Time ; it will be interpreted a Deftgn
to dethrone the King, and be made an Argument for the
keeping them up-
* But there are other Reafons yet : The I'ublick Ne-
ceffitics call upon U5 to contiafl our Charge, that we may
be the fooner out of Debt, and in a Conditisn to make a
new War if there is a Neccffiiy for it : And 'tis not the
keeping great Armies on foot that will enable ui to do fo,
but putting ourfelvet in a Capacity to pay them. We Ihould
put ourfdvea into fuch CircumAances, that our Enemies may
diead a new Quarrel, which can be no otherways done, but
by IciTening our Expence.s and paying off* the publick En-
gagements as fall as we are able. For Money is the Sinews
of War; but the Sinews once weakened, the Body is In a
tottering Condition. A Standing Army mull be fed, and
when once witliout Pay, mull live upon free Quarter ; for
there is no Reafon that Men raifed for the Service of their
Country, ihould llarve in it.
' In this Difcourfe, I purpofely omit fpeaking of the
lefier Inconveniencies attending a Standing Army, fuch as
frequent Quarrels, Murders arid Robberies ; the quartering
upon publick, and fomccimes private Houfes ; the influenc-
ing EleAions of Parliament by an artificial Diftribution
of Quarters i the rendering fo many Men ufelefs to La-
bour ; with a greater Dellrudlion of them, by taking them
from a laborious Way of living to a loofe idle Life 1 ^d
befides this, the Infolence and ^baucheries that are cofai-
mittcd in all the Towns they come iti, to the Ruin of Mul-
titudes of Women, DiOionour of their Families, and ill ex-
ample to others ; and a numerous Train of Milchiefs be*
fides, almoll endlcfs to enumerate.
* If the Parliament give the bell King a Standing Army,
the word King ftiill hereafter claim ana have it.
* The Advocates for a Sunding Army tell us. That
tho' the VVofds, * By being annexed to the Crown, and fo
* becoming a Prerogative, could not he parted with, which
' was the Cuufe of the long Continuance of that Mifchief,
' after it was known and felt to be fo ; yet all this is cur'd
* by making the Aft temporary, and fettling a Standing Ar- jf-
* my only Tor a certain Number of Years.'
* To this I anfwer, that Tucceeding Princes, if they find
an Army, will keep it, and will not trouble themfclves whe-
ther the Law be temporary or perpetual. A plain Inllance
we have of this in the Cuftoms ; for tho' Tunnage and Poun-
h z dage.
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ADDENDJ t9 iht FiMT Voi-oyt.
' AnnnO. Cm. 1. ilage, and the other Imporiitoa*. irc a Sabfid/ anJ hm i
^ '''^ and the Ktng'a Anfivcr to the Bill thasic* the $abii&
their good ^Vill ; ^xvf. tho' Parliaments havr «hny o^d '
Cauciom Aiid Liniiuttons in tbofc Grants am mj^hf pr
flny Claim, and ticretofbre limited tliem to • fbort Ti
as jbra Year ci tu^ ; and irth«y wcfCCOlHiaBi
they have dire^'.ed a certain Sp^cc of CedQuiim er
fion, that fu (he Right of the Sut^t^ might briW
c\-idcn: ; at other Times, they htvc b«CD ^nuUfid ufOB
cafion of Wiir for a certain Number of Y«a», niih faovii^
that ifthc War were ended ia the mnii Tunc, thai
CJriint fiiould ccafe, acd of Coorfc they have tiecn
«d into the Elands of foine Subjc£b for tjie gaaniiB| if
Seas. Notwithllanditig all this, iho' the Pitrli«niatt (b
fitlly granted their Grants, yet Kbg Ch*r)e» the Fiii
the Subfidy, without any Gmnt at all, for fiatrco Yaa»
gethcr i tbo' feveral hir1iainenr» in the mrvi Tine i»M
the Payment of it, and voted all ihHe ro be pvblkk b»
nemiet that did not refute it. The like did )w SO(S ^
King James, 'till hi« Parltatnent gave it Um : Afld ■
firft Speech to them he denunded it as hit own, bf
Name of, * My Revenue] ' and why then iball aoc
PAnce come and fay the (ame, * Give me my Array.' if
ever have a Parliament (oaOc ? To limit ■ Prince wiik Lns
where there » an Army, is to bind Sompfiua wicll
Itoclcs on.
■ lo all Ages and Part* of the World. % Standing A
has be«o the nerer failing IniUumcni of Okflavrt^ a
tion.
■ The trery Reputiixin of a Force to back tlUn, «■
make all Court Propofab fp«ak big. tbo' ever i^ tottutf
to the Intercll of the Nation ; Tar thrrv is oo deiatiaf
difputing againfl Legioni. ft will tenipc them to do
Things they doift not otlicrvntyi think of : Wbst a
out of our Reach. i$ rarely the Ofa^ of oar
Bat the Facility of Execution ii genmlly the firft
an Attempt. Now 'tis abundantly the lateicrt cf Cad
Flatterers to liveunda-a corrupt Reign: liken PribEsaHA
CbnBfcitions fill their Coffen. No Man's WiJir or lOtaf^
tn is free from tbclr LuA, or Eltate from their Arar«c
They extort Prcfenta from the Nobility, Goods frpa thf
'i'mdcfmcn. and Labour frc-m the Poor. In Ohm,
fhcir onn. And *tit lo be frarrd, tbefir Gent
left they iiare niorr X'trtne than ufually fUts w tiicir
will put Priom upon Jiich Councils 01 pnMboic tWff
Advanugc. They will tril them. )kw neaa tt b
aw'd by a few Couiury Gentlemen, when ill tbe
Kiiropr bcltdn arc got ihii ofPupflagc, u Lewu tbt
I
JDDEHDJ t9 tht FiRjr VoiCMi.
6f
:allcd tt. They will fiJt their Heatis with a thoafBiid
JraJoLifi« of MoniTcrf, Cominonwcalths, ind {uch
Ltce BiigDiMn : And it hach been dlffictilt cran for the
idfeft of Princes to free thnnfclves from this Sore of Caicie,
VoduDg but cbe Fear of i'umnunent, ind the bcbe nude a
bcrifice to the People* jufl Revaige, ran raake fucb Men
Ifaid. But if they hare an Ami)' to prote^ them, ander
^Knnnical Piince, all thefc Coolidcratiotu will be laid
^L and rII Argumencs WiO be anfwered in a Worda
Wk King has an Army, which will cut ofi* iJI Reply.
QEe King hu an Arin)f will be a confuting Atifwcr to eve-
Thing, but a better Amy. which, Thanks be to Cod,
ac late King WiUiim. we once found at the happy Rc-
tiOB. But as we are not u> live upoo Mtradei, To we
to tempt Dangers,
hare iby'd the longer upon thii Point, io fliewing
inconfillent an Army, under a bad Prince I always
, is with the Freedom of Parliaments^ bccauft ihey
the Keeper* of our Britilh Liberties can ill perforoi
"Office when they have parted with their Power into
Hands. They are the m. Rcfort oi the SubjeA for
tedTcG of their GrievaiKes : fiat how (Kill they rrUerc o-
ifrom theOpprcffionand InfoleDces or the Soldiery, when
they ihall be fobjcO to the Itke ibemrelvci \ T'hc
are aware of this terrible Inconvmiertcc, and
efbre they have this Expedient, That it (hull be the
t*t Army, but the Parliament (hill hare ciie Paying of
1 whereby they Hull io all future Times be as nucJi
Parliament S humble Serrauti* as tlie Psrliamcm ihcir
Msllen.
tuch At one I believt : For the Long P^irliaaicai had
King attd Pnrliainfnt Army ai thif, but an Ar-
wu all their own \ their Creatures, ruifrd. liAcd,
I, and paid wholly by thcnifclves. and not in
and that had manfully fought all their Battles :
I yet, opon the firH Dillafte they were plealed to take,
[diftrcfled their own Mailers, aod with an high ttuid
rccd them to banith eleven of their principl Members,
tP Holler, Sir Philip Srapylion, Glyn and fuch other
Men. Sir Philip Stapylton dyed in his Battilhrnent.
liber Time they would uot fuficr near on hundred
ibers to enter into thv Houfe, wlioni they thought ito:
ffttficAed to the Bufmefft then it Hxnd : Aud .it the Umc
evilly intrejled and tmprtfbned iLbout torty Mcnibcii :
they catted Purging the Houfe. After ihry had thu
them at fevenl Titncs. m OmcluAon, ihe Ofiiccn
and rrprimandrd the Huufe, bid inrm ake awav
Fogi't iiaabic, the Mace, vtoIcoEiy pu.!cd the Sp«alwr
«Ii7
6i ADDENDA f the First Volciie.
out of' the Chair, drove oat the Members, and lod
the Doors, and fo Good Night to the FiirliajnenL
Wjfdom of that Parliament was faid to be very gr
their own Party, but it was Nonfcnfe for ihcm to
diat an Army does not know its own Strength : Fo
out dear bought Experience, any Bcxly may kt;o« '
hand, what will be the natural Conlequences of a S:
Army, in the Cafe above fuppofed of a bad Prisce.
may polTibly happen in fomc future Ages, the' mU
have a long and glorious ProfpeA of a bener Fate v.
Kingdoms. It will be the Conquefl of the Naiioc
filenceft. fhortefl and fureft Way. They will be able
pofe of Men's Lives and Eftates at Will and PlcaAuc
what can a foreign Conqueror do more ? If after tk
Subjefb hve and poUefs any Thing, it will be hi
they let them ; and how long that fliall be, «
knows.
* Nay, in many Refpc£lt an authorized Scandicc-'
may prove hr worl'e than i foreign Invafion, aad i
queft from abroad : For there we have a Chance for k
this would be a Conqueft in cold Blood, which m^
be rcfilted. And thus we Ihould lofe the infeparable K
of the Conquered, which is to lelcue and deliver thedi
and to throw ofF the Yoke as foon as they can.
* It would likewife b~ agrrat Aggravation of their
fery to be enJlaved at their own Coft and Charges : li
the bitter Refentments of Unkindnefs and Bre«Jiof1
if it be done by thofe who ought to proteft us, and yn
better for as, at leaft Qiould not leave as in a wr>r'J:<
dition than they found us. But above all. ifwecorni
to this Thraldom by our Folly, Flattery and Irt:)r feit-
irg : If the Deftrnflion of our PolUrity beoi'ocHc
that Reflexion hereafter, when wc come to forelcetlic
Confequenccs that are yet hid from the Advocate* fi
Standing Army, will have a Sting in it ; ard it «S
then be enough to fay. Who would have ihcight ii \
' Governments have their In&ncy, their Meridim,
their Drcny. But the DcflruAion of ours is more la bf
prehcndcd from ourfelves than from a foreign Knemt.
' That unlefs we have an Army to lye Larger, m
liable to be over-run by a foreign enemy e'er we aw a*
is a Tliou:'ht that could nor pnltibly efcape o-jt F-irtfj:!
yet wc cnnnot Icim that ever they put it in Pr.ft ce. w
is a great Sign they did not like it. No, we are »*."
fured, that they would not have fuffercd a Srjr.diyig .\
to deftnd the N.ition, if they would have doi.c it grat
' But what lignify the Proceedings of former Age; te
lay (omft GuAVemcti, the World i^ llrangcly il:c:cd.
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ADDENDJiotbt First Volume. 63
Ae Power of France is become fo formidable, that it can Anno 4 cm. l
«ever be oppofed in the Elizabeth Way. They ftill keep
OP a gre:it Army, snd how Diall we dcfeiid oarfelres agaiuft
Uiem, if they think fit 10 break Treaties with us, and af-
fifi the Pretender to invade us, without an Army of twenty
«r thirty thoufand difcipUned Troops ?
' But that we may for .ever lay this Gobblin, we will^d-
nic our Fleets to be kidnapped by an unlucky Wind,
Vlulft the French land twenty thoufand Mtn in our Coun-
kjr. Tho' in Gratitude for tiiis Concellionj I hope my
AaTcrfaries will grant that their Fleet cannot get back
r' I without our meeting with them, lince the fame Wind
carries them home will carry us out, or if they will
■DC be fo good natured as to allow this, I will undertake
-Jpr them, for we live in an Undertaking Age, that they
ivin agree we fhall intercept their Supplies. Then the Cafe
b thus, that tuenty thouland Men, of which few can be
^arfe, are landed in England without any huioan Po£i-
wity of being fupply'd from abroad.
^ * I fay, this Army Ihall never march twenty Miles into
ne Country, for they cannot put themfelves in a marching
^lofture in lefs than a Fortnight or three Weeks ; and b/
ttat Time we may have an hundred thoufand Militia drawn
down upon them, whereof ten thoufand fball be Horfe, and
M many Dragoons as we pleafe : And if this Militia does
■OChing elfe but drive the Country, cut off their Fora-
Mn «iw Straglen, poflels themfelves of the Defiles, and
niercept Frovifions, their Army mull be deilroyed in a
faiU Time. Neither will domeflick Enemies, the Favour^
•n of the Pretender, be able in the mean Time to give
«g mach Diflurbance ; for by the prudent Care the pieient
Gonroment has already taken, and 'tis hoped will take for
tibe future, thcfe Malecontents can never be in a Conditkm
to make any Head, or contribute the leail Afliftance to a
fiveign Enemy.
' Of this Kind I could give many Inlbnces out of Hi-
Boiy 1 bat I will give you a late one out of Ireland.
' Firft, I think it will be readily agreed, that there are
ten Men in England for one in Ireland.
■ Secondly, That King William had more EngliOi and
Scot* to join with him in Jreland than there are Malecon-
teota in England.
Thirdly, That our Militia hr.ve as much Courage as t!;e
Irifh: And yet, tho' we had eight thoufand Hurfe, and a-
bove thirty thoufand Foot in Irelaad, and a gre^t P.irt of
oCthe Country in our FofleSion, wc were more than fnur
Years in conquering the relt. and almolt a Mirade nc did
it then. And I believe no Man will deny, if we coald
Ann* i. Cat. L
'7*7
6+ ADDENDJ t« the FmiT VotOMl.
not hare fiippiy'd our Anny from Eaghad. bat cIkt W
ail there pcrifhnl ; fuch is the Adfanc^ ot
ooe's OWD DungbQ.
' And to fliew what Treatment tbc FfBDcJi
like to me«t tvith in England. I uij] pot f^m tn^^i
the Purbcck tavaTioo, which wai ib priTmlc, ^tl a ^m
ftxn only by an old Man and a Bojf : And ytt v'tb
Coaatry Lbought the Government againA them, webtf*-
bove forty thuuCuid Voluniiers in Amu iat«eaiH
Days timr. who came thither an rbcir o«m Aoovd »
them the Meeting ; ind if the/ baJ bea rboc I
not would have given a vood AccotuiC of tfcf^
Court, when ic u.i!t over, mewed thetr I>illibc oT ~t,
qucAioncd the Sheriff of Dotfrt&irr about it. Ap4'
Vie have forgot it, yet I bclirrc the Frmch will
rurbeck ; for it ihewcd the true Spirit and GcM#
EngliOi Nation.
• But the Policy of France htvimt now uEmti ■
different Face Unce the Death of Lewis their laa
tvhofe ofpiriog 'I'emper gave fo lUcb Vuo&mA
Earope, all Arguments and Pretcnca far a
my, that are drawn from any Viem of 4 liach
thai Kingdom, art indtely cut off by ibii tmc
ittion.
■ Indeed, moft of the Rcafooa the<e CcmJciBa
to enforce their Dcfigri, (and wbkh wichoai thit ■
ConfutJition. we hnvc already rii^dcstjy rrecUed)
were chiefly made ufc of by ilic &mr Set of Mca. A
Reign of the late King William, wbca the N
one Voice, as it werr, dcdattd for tbe difliiniliM iff
Army after the Peace i fo the CircumftanorioftM* TlM
added a (tut deal of Weight to the fuac, sad iWDI^
pQXt on both Sid» W7,\ then managrtt with F> ^^-^
Strength of Arguuicnt, aa well ai Wtt md Art. v
noi an cafy Matter tor the bcft jt^-.-r,,,-^. ..-. ^.
Cafe joitly, fo a> neither the ^(oy
Liberiicsand Eafe of the People froiu uu>r j au^ =^0
fuffer by it. ■' -*
* And yet, nniurithSandlog all the fecmiog hdb^H
Difiicuitio that werr then obviotit from the red«cav
Force*, the Wirdoni of the King aod hb |*Krltxflu«t
fit to cvcr-rulc UiC Mailrr, and w ghre tbcii' _^
lion on the other Side. So that tllowii^ Ok PtFjtt)tfi fr"
gumenti to carry with them die laow Fonx ari taaO
now thut the f:inii; had then, yet Ihey oagbt m kM Mv-
nor? to yield tip the Caufe, becaole after tbc okA o^faflk.
nice, aod rubtUe Cooiio\cr«y and l>cfau« b^ ibc «^i<
Ha*
iDDENDJ u thf FiHiT VoLUHi. 65
the Natioa. the moH irapariial Dccifion of aPar-
' lisment ha» giwn ifactr Authoiir/ Againil ihem.
But will any Maii pfeteml to aiErm, ihnt an Atgn-
11 rclatiDg to the Policy of a Cominoiiivnlih, is at all
r*rimcj fopportcd with equal Rcifon anJ NcccQiry ? What
Lttfurdiiin and Cotitradidioiis mud needs be the Confe*
ucnce^ of fuc>i a ridiiulous Afirnion f
li may be avenrd with the \\ke I'arityof Rcafon, that
Monaxchs ought always to keep G3irifon« in mofl of
Cittrs Tawni and Caflles of £ngland, bccnufc WUli&nt
[he Conqueror found it abfolucly nec«if<i(y to do fo* fat
fccuriiig of his ncw-goincd Kiogdoni. Nu ; there is
withiB the Compafs of State Policy th^i i^ not ai
Qgoble as the Weather and the Scjfons of tite Year,
thofe Alterations arcai ncccfliuy to the Prefcirat^n of
poliiicai Oecooomy, as thefc ztt to the Body Natural ;
d there b aothln^ urultcfablc in the Nature uf a Go»eni-
enl, but thjt wttich it it» very Eflience, the fundatuoital
iw* of its ConlUiution, which cannot be changed or re-
' wuluut the Ovetibjow asd DcJbuaion of the whole
Idtng.
Now US to the particular Point in Debate. We ire to
}ttltder ttie French AtTun and Grcomlbnces in a quite dif-
\t L:ght, at prefent, frota the Appesrancn theic had in
Rwign lak mentioned.
It ii true, Ring William did not a tittle contribute by
hcroidc Courage and Condud, to bumbtc the Pride of
common Enemy of Eurgpc, who aimed it 00 Jcfi than
ontverfal Cooqtieft; but the vi£torioui Coofederale Ar-
ill the Uft War, bad brought him even to the Brink
Ruin, and would ceitaijily have difabled that Suie from
. PoHibility of railing tu Head, or of giving any An-
Bjrancc to his Ncigbboun, had not o<" Miniitry of the
Reign beta too eafily circumvented ucd bribed by
Dch Policy and French Gold, id malce a mofi inglorioitf
didioQourablc Peace with chat Nation.
However, the difmal iSt&i o( the late War fat fo hea-
wj upon them, that ibefe were a Clog and Hindcruce to
~ " that King's ambitious Projedi and Oeijgiu, who was
tent to bold what he had prefervcd from a raging, do*
attunatc and dcdrudlre War^ without rtumiog the Ha-
of any future AirempW.
But befides the raifcrablc State of tkit ICingd^m, oc>
icd by the War, we are prefested with an entire new
fpcfi of their Afiainfinec that King's Death 1 and they
tve tbcif Hindi ceo full at Home, to be meddling wirh
iKeir Neighbour). Every Body kaowi what domeibck
ADd QuancU they have aoiant iboDrelm at prdenrj
i by
66 JDDENDJ /« tie Fikst VoLvut.
niM4 n*e. I. b7 which they »it brewing a great deal oFMifclrieflotk
whoir KingdAin. ami which muft necclttnljr dctcaiftc ■
the Dcftiiidion of one of the Partie». The Atbtxti
SuccdEoti to (he Crown of France, aboot whJdi
Part of that Kingdom is already dirided «nnft the
may produce as much Noife, Wan ukI ^-o^frT^ ■
Ucdy that of Spiin : And Grrat Britjua being Bm^ W
hire a confidcrahle Share, fomc Time or ether, is dfeoia
the former as nxU a» it had in the latter, wltkh mi ■
<^rouiid of the late War, it is the loterclt of bo<h Cif
dom to carry fair with us. But it being (Hcdlited n ■
of the grand CoDdittons and Articles of th« Ptatt da
Ptiiiip (hoold renounce his Prctenfiocu to the PrcBck On^
and he hiving accordingly felemnly done fo. It a mk*
whom we are to fide with, if the Matter (boiiU i^ ti
be difputed. And this U the Foundaiioa of Oie uilB»l*
Alliance, Ofieciive and Defenfivc. biely concluded hamm
Gteai Britain, France, and Hotbnd, which malcei fa tpt
a Noifc in ihe World, and by which wc fccis to be l^
hMy qtncted and fccured from all Pcan of aoy Difataa
from aljroati.
' Buc ihele Gcntlemm, when all tbcir Other
are refuted, betalcc thcmfelves to their bft Rcfbf^
iliey are prcfuaded cm ocver fail them, aad cfaat n cbc 0^
content! and D^laSe^iioti of tJie Prtteoder'a Paiqr, «li
orly vfiit a frefh Opportunity bv raifing a
to rrfiurc iheir fCing, and revenge thdr tace bad
' I can aflure tliefe Geiiilemen. that tbo* I
a Standing Army, and thu' the Jacohitn may per.
the fame Opinion, yrt 1 am no I-*ricnd CO Hk rrsti
■■■"■ —"•'■ ^^vtftviw, ;^» • "ill •!•! I iivxw «w uK^ cmnaan, ■»
beiine tnyfelf as firmly attached to the Prateftan: jn,iitn,
and tbe IntereJl of the prcfent GotrrniDcnt, lad ^ *
gnac at| Admirer of hii Majefty't Cbudtid mmi hihrf
Vtriues, ai any of them all. But acvcrtbeVfi^ T fc^ »
Man win diicorer himfelf (a Toid isf good SotfE, tf •*
imagine that it u Trrafon to entertstn aay fitttiaa m a^
taoo with that Party. And notOTthfludisg tfccr no a>»
K appreheru], that fame AdflDUge urill accrar Bi AA
JntrrrA by diflnnding the Amy, t^ doo mat la dv 1^
toclirie me to the 0|Mmon of tlic odhtrSMc
' Befides, I do not doubt bat even thtSt Maleo^MM
win tnafoe greater LTfe of the Army, fappofiaf it itf^tt
to draw cbcm off to their Side, by mrdmEuig bi ill O
loun Iheir Behaviour in tJioTe Pam wWe they arr |>te<
is Hopes to g^in Numben to tlieir Dififfefttoa. Acd the
i) tbe more certain, if we coeiidir thai tbrir Mt Urn-
feftoS were full of the GricvaBca of an Anitf, cvate^
fere any Artny twi in Besig : Snck a prcfiitn^ Adibtf
JDDENDjt t9 tie First Volume. 67
did they think this Argument to the ftefentnients of £»g-
Lflunen. Nor do we find they have been more Alenc upon
this Sabjcft, fince the Kebellion has been fupprelTed. What
Noife have we beard of the Riot at Oxford ? And of the
other little Diforders of the Soldiery, io the feveral Parts
of the Kingdom i And this has not been without its Effl-ft ;
fat many, who were good Subjefls to his Majefly, have
talked warmly on this Head, being jealous of their Liber-
tiea, who otherwife would not have wavered in their Re-
lied to the prefent Goremment. How lar therefore the
Favourers of the Pretender may carry their Succefs, by tn-
fifting on the farther EStEts of an Anny, eftablilhed by
liiw, who certainly cannot commit fewer Outrages, is not
difficult to imagine.
* In Ihort, tw whole Management of this Projefi of a
Standing Army is ridiculous j but the fata] Coofequences
of h require deqter Thought. For when we have fooled
cut ouHelves into the Bondage of a Standing Army, how
fliall we cTcr get oat of it a^n i Not as the Nation freed
themfelves firom the Court of Wards. We cannot buy it
off, for two very good Reafons : No Money will be taken
for it ( and we (hall have nothing to give which is not
theirs already ; our Eflates, Lives and Liberties will be all
at their Command.
' The Prince of Orange^s Declaration is direAly agatnll
a Standing Army, as a Means to affift all arbitrary De-
Bgpi, and thereby enflave the Nation ; direfUy agaii^ all
wicked Attempts of Conqueft, and all defpotick Govern-
ment, 'tis full of Liberty and Property in every Part. And
iiis prefent Majcfty, who is endowed with the fiime gener-
ous and heroick Temper, has given undeniable ProoB of the
ftme gracious Inclinations ; we may reaibnably foppofe that
the wifelt of Kings, in Cbnjunftion with the bdl of Par-
liaments, will, in this important Affair, difcover the fame
Sentinients with our glorioas Deliverer, to whom kve prin-
cqnlly owe our prefent Happinefs. That Declaration was
fo highly valued, and (n wholly relyed upon by the Parlia-
ment then, that it is incorporated into cor Laws, as the
only Redrefs of our paft Grievances and Oppreflions, and
the beft Foundation of our future Happinefs : And with ia-
tive Con6dence that his Majefty King William would cog-
tinne to afl in Purfuance of that Declaration, the Parlia-
ment refolved that he Oiould be elcAed and declared King i
ia that it is to be accounted the Paam Ctirvenia of the Go-
vcnunent-
* Here I know feme will Ciy, that the Army condemned
iiy the Declaration, was the late King James*» Army kfpt
1^ in lime of Peace without Confcnt of Parliament i
i i. whe;e<ts
VoLvm.
68 JDDENDJ n ttt Fiht
whereas thil Stuuliog Array is to be
Ccrfifvnt.
' Trne il wv fo, and therefore, it wn a Riot ad c^
fut AfTcnibly every Hoar it flood ; and having ao Livfr
it, it mi^t have been prefcnted or iadiAed t to aa fvji
indeed: £uc s& an Invaiion upon the Subjcd, it Biifkk
refilled and puU'd down si a Nu(ance. whenever the MN
found themfelves able. But Tuppofc thii AmiT kd hm
made Part of tbc Conilitatian^ aiid had obtain 'd sr Mi
Failhment for it, u-hat then hid been bccoow of a
were A'uii and lallnunenu of Arbiuary OmcmncT
buc then they liad been tegal [ofirnaicota, uid Jiad^n
us by Authority. In fbon, we could tuit bare rvficv'a^
felves from (htm, i.or my one vl(c in our Brhdf. kaa^
our own A£l and Deed wiwld have alway* faeea pai a
gaintt ui.
What I have faJd agalnJl Standing Annici, I ««M li
tinderitood of fucb as xre the Jnllrwncnts nf Trr^aj, mi
their Cduittry't Ruin, and tbcnfore 1 need taues ai Afa
logy to onr own, which next unto God, Jura fav ilHJrl*
very and Condu^ prcferv'J our Ubcrdo nad tlwP>«lAB
Religion ihio' Cuiopc, and have lb Ucrhr dcliwmd (t^
Katicnu frooi the uonatnnd Udignk uid AtC^nwOaf titf
Fcltow-Subje^ to dethrone his preJcnt utdk gtat— H^
jefty, wlio is the Guardiui of our Laws mnd Pnyjlcfix ai
to introduce Arbitrary Power. For if in fatare AcMMflV
Pcfigni ftiould be levcll'd agatnit oaf Ljiwk, wk nvl*
nflui'd tliefe Men wonld be diCnided. aitd othcn
in their Rooms, who nc lir for fuch Arhltnry Pttipafai
* Nor do I think u realonable itiat our Army OBtti b
Tuin'd by that Tranquility and Pran, whkll, by ihntCa*-
rage and Fidelity, they have ptocur'd fisr their Coavf i
and I doubt not but the Geocrafity and Gratttafe ^ ••
PaiUstnent wUl give; them a Damttrc eijail to tlitv C^
tniiliont, which will amount to no txtfrnorAmtrw $■; «t
It^At it will be an cafy Coinpo&tkin for tbc Qhargeef bi^
ing thcm-
* But if there aie any GcBtlanenwbo tUak «rcsi ■
otbenA'tfe exfiei't our GiJUtude, bat by. ^afag aid ^^K
our Poilerity's Ruin, I hope we ftafl dilappo»r AtM &>
praadons, and no: give the World occafioe totdib SoiA
a Story of uv Thrv know very mil. an Amy hat ntkm
in i( Co churning tb^t couM induor tlx Nukrn to taifr aft
hat npoii foMjc prcSng Nacefity, aad em m kup thea ^
perpetually J nor can the Service petform'd hevrvt&tntm,
as not to be requited under fuch a Retara.
' To candude : The Honour ud Sakty of Om Sttm
u the oafmncadahlc i>cfi£a ; and fo Cu aa any jftff » fe
jfDDSNDA to tht Fiasr VotOMC. 69
thic, it is certainly in the Right, Juice &II Couotries muft
havr ibmc Force to defend them sgaiaA foreign lovafiou
ftnd comefltctc Tmnalts i for u it was their own Good mrf
Security which ocofioo'd Men firfl to quit the State of Na*
ture. and m alTociate thcmfelves into Govemmenti ; lb the
Railing and Regulation of their Forces maft be dtreAed and
accommodated to the fame Ends. Ad liland i& bell fituated
for Prefcrvation, as having need of lilile other Force either
Co in fed foreign Coaib, or to protect iti own, befides a nu-
merous Fieef, which it need never want. Bm if j[ )]q
likewife a Govemmcat for Increafe, fuch as oun, tu Sitot-
ttoD naturally leading to Trade and planting of Colonies ;
and if it has the noble Ambition cf holding the Balance
Aeddy between other GovemmentJ, of fticcouriag the Di-
flrcli'd, and grudging Liberty to none, then it mufi be al<
wax^ prorid^ with a conliderable Land-Force. Of tliit
tiurc is no Difpute. Then the only Qucflioji u. Whether
it be fafer to tnift Arms continually in the Hands of idls
asd Dcedy Perfons ; or only, when there b Occafioti for ir,
in the Hands of fober and induftrioui Freemen. That
the Latter can ncrer be dangerous to our Liberty and Pro-
perty at Home, and will be infiiutdy more efTraually
sgaiJofl an Enrniy attacking, or invaded by u;, I think I
have fulRcicntly preved both by Reafon atwl Experience.
But that the former may hereafter prove of the worft Con-
Ut{\XB\QC, is a Truth et^ually undeniable^ and thcrffoK Z
suift declare 1 am for 1 z.otM Men only.*
17I7.
A
LIST
OF THE
MEMBERS
Who V o T E D for the ■
B I L L
FOR
Repealing the Triennial AB^
tcnnialy April 24, \yi6,
[Sec Vol. I. p. 68.]
N. B. 7hofe with a * Voted Anno 1734, [See Vol. III.
p. 137.] for repealing the Septennial ACT, and re-
flaring PARLIAMENTS tn a Caminuame of Tbrci
Tears only.
^hsfe with a f I'oted Anno 1734, ogai'iji the Repeal of
the Septennial ACT.
AB E R C R O M BY Alexander, Anno ». ftorta i.
Captain of Foot. Sbire of Bamf. '"*■
Addifon Jofeph, Efq; a Com-
miflioner of Trade. Malmefiurj.
Aiflabie Jobn, Efq; IVeafurer of
the Navy* Uti Vol. I p. 236 ] R!p<m.
K Aland
74 J D D E N DA t6 the ViTLST Volume.
vnco t.GeMxfi I. Aland John Fortefcue, (a) Efq; his
JJL. Majcfty's SoUiciior General. Mtdhurfi,
AUanfon Charles, Efq: Clerk of the
Bankrapts undei die Lord Chan'
cellor. Wefihury.
Anftruther Sir John, Bart. Shirt of life.
-)- Andruther Philip, -Colonel in the
Foot Guards. Burghs ofCraii, &c.
AOiburnham Sir Williani, Bart.
Chamberlain of the Exchequer. Seafori,
f Aflie Edward, Efq; Clerk of the
Ordnance. Heyttjbury.
Aftie William, Efq; Htyttjhurj.
AOiurlt Sir Henry, Bart. WimdfQr,
AAley Sir Jacob, Kt. Commifiioner
of Trade. Utrfalk.
Aylmer Matthew, Efq; Admiral
and Governor of Greeowich-Hof-
pital. Dover.
f Bacon Waller, Efq; Nonvieh,
Bailie George, Efq; a Commiflioner
of the Admiralty. Shire ^ Senwici.
Baird John, juh. Efq; Commilfioner
of the Equivalent. Shire ef Edinburgh.
Banks. Jofeph, Efq; Grimfiy.
, Barlow John, Efq; Haverftrd Wtfi.
Bateman Sir James, Kt. Sub-Gover-
nor of the South-Sea Company. EaSlota.
Beli Ralph, Efq; 7hirjk,
Bellamy William, Efq; Auditor to
thebutchy'of Lancafter. Ikbefier.
Benfon William, Efq; Shaftesbury.
Bere Thomas, Eiq; Commiflioner
of the Viftualling-Office. Tivertoa.
• Bigg John, Efq; Huutiugtmjhirf.
Birch John, Serjeant at Law, and a
Commiflioner of the Forfeited
Eftaies. ISeeVol. II. p. 238.] WtebUy.
Biife Stephen, Efq, Commiflioner of
the Equivalent. Sedvjiu.
Blackillon Col. Nathaniel. St Michael.
BlandcU
(a) App-rhtid a Bat-on tf tbe ExJ?f^ir, Jm. 47, I716-I7, ^mdmtit
« iHltue rf the Ki>x'i-bencb, May 15, 171 8, but frberfttkd mftmhu
fT(}cnt Maj-iliy's Ak^^ and afterwards mtutf m Jiutf 4 At Cmmt»-
ADDENDA to tbtYnzT'Voj.jjuz, , 75
Blandell Sir M6ntagae, Bart, (h) HaJItmrt, ^'"^ %^°^'^ ^
Bond Dennis, ETq; Lecter-Carrier
to the Government, and a Com-
miffioner of the Forfeited Efiates.
{Stt Ft/. II. p. Z38.] Coifi-Cajllt.
Bofcawcn Rt. Hon. Hugh, Efqj (c)
Copiptrolier of the HouQiold, and
Warden of the Stannaries. Pmjn.
Boteler John, Efq; one of the Com-
miflioners of the EquivalenC. Hertford Tvwm,
Brace John Thurloe, Efq; Bedford.
Braddyl Doddington, Efq; Lantajler Town.
■\ Bradihaigh Sir Roger, Bart. Wigan.
Bray WiTliam, Captain of Horfe. Matuimuth Toiua.
f Bridges George, Efq; Winthtfitr.
f Bridgman Sir Orlando, Bart. Clerk
of the Green-Cloth to the Prince. Calm. *
■f- Brillow Robert, Efq; a Conuntffioner
for Stating the Debts due to the
Army. Wintbeifeg.
Britiffe Robert, Efq; Nonuicb.
Broderick Thomas, Efq} Stockbridgt.
Broughton Sir Brian, Bart. ^"^'fj* '" ^'"f'
* fordjbtrt.
•f- Brudenel Hon. James, Efq; Mafter
of the Jewel-Office. Andvutr.
Brownlow Sir John, Bart, (i) Lincalnfhire.
fiurridge John, Efq; t}Pu Rtgit.
Byng Sir George (*)t Kt. a Com-
miiConer of the Admiralty. Pljmtiuh.
■f- Campbell John, Efq; Groom of the
Bed-Chamber to the Prince, and
Capuin of the Foot Guards. Bnrgbs of Elgin, ice.
-}■ Campbell Sir James, Bart. Gover-
nor of Stirling-CalUe. Sbire of Argjle.
K 2 t Campbell
i'b) Crested yiftetiiit BitadS^ mttd Btmm ff tJtnieny im Irtlntd, Ati-
gffi 5, 1710.
(e) Creaui Vifemut Falmmth mad Baroa Ifn/fmcM Reft, ^mm 9, 1710.
Afttrssrdi ^minted s frtvy-dm^elitr, msde Joint VUe'JnsJtirer, stij
F»y-MMier of Irilmad.
(d) Crtsiti V^auint %rci)KMl, and Banm Brsnwlnc tf IreLwd, Msy 1 1,
■ 718} smd mmJt * A»i^ qf tba Bstb Kfoit * Hivivmirf that Order,
inmy x-u 1715.
(t) Critttd Vi^iimnt Twrn^M, tmd3annl^r%^ Seft- 9, 1711. ^Irr-
Vsrii 0pteimted Ccmmand^ tm Chid if tii M^K^t PttU mA m Frivj-
Cm»idht;mi Sin^ f tU Brnth.
yb ADDENDA « the First Volume.
> 1. Cwt^ L^ Campbell Hon. John, Efq; Survey-
*'' " or of the King's Works in Scot-
land. >• SAire of Dutthaiten.
i Campbell Daniel, Efqj ^«^*' '-^ ^^A^'
C^rbcrry Lord. Weftbury.
Carew Sir Nicholas, Bart. HaJIemere.
Carpenter General, Celonel of
Horfc (f). Whitchurch.
Carter Laurence, Efq; (g) Solici-
tor-General to the Prince. Boraljion.
Cartwright Henry, Efq; made a
CommilTioner of the Vi£tualing-
OfEce. • ■ BeJJintj.
Cater John, E{qj Btdfortffliirt.
^ Cavendifh Lord James. Dtrfy To-tmh.
Chandler Richard, Efq; Ljmington.
f* Chetwynd John, Efq^ one of the
CommiiTioners of 'iVade. St Mcwes.
f Chetwynd Walter, Efq;/*^ Ranger
of St James's Park. Stafford 7own.
Chetwynd William, Efq; , Stafford Trwft-
Child Sir Richard, Bart, (i) Efftx.
Cholmely Hugh, . Efq; Surveyor-
General. Heydon.
f Churchill Charles, Efq; Colonel of
Drr g Jons. Cajih- Rijtng,
Chuicnill William, Efq; Stationer
to his Majefly. IpfwUh.
-+ Gierke Sir Thomas, Kt. Htrlford ToiJ^n.
\ Clayton William, (k) Efq; Bhcbingley.
• Cockburn John, Efq; one of the
Commiflioners of Trade. Shire of Hadd'tngtaun.
* Cocks James, Efq; Ryegate.
Colepepper Sir Thomas, Bart. hiaidjlon.
Compton Hon. Spencer, (I) Efq;
Speaker, Treafurer to the Prince. Suffix.
(f) Created Bttitai CarfttAer of Irelau^, May ^ 1719- Afteraxrdi ap-
paiiiteJ a Lieuteuaut Genenl^ Ctljnel of a Rtgimetit ^ Dr^emtj Mid Ce-
mentar tf Minorcs.
(g) AfpmHted a Barm <^ the ExJie^Mtr, Nm, '}, I716.
(h) CrtAted yifctmnt Chetaynij and Bjron (if RMjnon itf InianJj
June I, 1717.
(i) Created fifcauiit Ct^UmMm, and Barm e§ NeaUmHf ApS 1 7, l']T%i
and »o«j Karl of Tylney in Ireland,
(b.) Crtated a Barmitt.
(1) Created Baron of tfUmtighmy Jan. II, 1727-8, htuig M that Time
Tay-Mt^ier General of hit Maj^y's F^ku, and ^ Oclft*-llf^iuii » Sri-
^-C«H»/elIgr, oii %v^ 1$ t\e ^.
ADDENDA U the First Volume. 77
Coiiinglby Lord Vilcount. (a) Ltomtnfttr. Aano ». Ceartn i.
Cook Sir Charles, Kt. Aldcrmaa of
London, and Commifiioner of
'I'rade. Gramptund,
Corbet Sir Robert, Bart. Salop Ceunlj.
Corbet Andrew, Efq; Salop Tovm.
Cornwail Charles, El'q; WtoHey.
Coventry William, Elq; Bridftrt.
C^owper Spencer, Efqj Attorney-
General to the Prince. Trurot.
Cr.iggi James, jun. Efq; Cofivrer to
ttie Prince. Tregoaj.
Cunningham Sir James, Bart. Sbirt of Ltnlitbgnu.
Cunnirgham Henry, Efq; Commif-
fary General of the Multers in
Scotland, and a Commifijoner of Burghi of I/mtrii-
thc Forfeited Ellates. t%4», kc
D'Acth Thomas. Efq; (h) Sandwieh.
Dalrymple Sir DaviJ, Bart. Lord Burghs of Haddtnt-
Advocace for Scotland toun, kc.
Daines Sir William, Kt. Bripi.
iDarcy Conytfrs, Efq; (e) one of the
Commiffioners for executing the
Office of Mailer of the Hbrfe and
Avener. Newark.
3eacle John, Efq; Eve/bam.
^laval Francis, Efqt h'orthumbtrland.
>elaval George, Elq; Rear-Admi-
ral. Weftlvw.
Benton Alexander, Efq; {p\ his Ma-
jefty's Council it Liw, and At-
torney-General of the Dutchy of
Laocaller. Buckingham Town.
Desboveric Jacob, Efq; Hjthe.
Difion Jofiab, Efq; Drvixes.
Docminique Paul, EAj; a Commifli-
oner of Trade. GdtlM.
poddington George, Efq; a Com-
:• miffioner of the Admiralty. Bridgnvattr.
Bowdcfwell
m Creuttd Bjnm Cam^Ay m Liaalnjhif*, Jam 15, i^ij, s»i £4ri
miff.-^prilp, 1T.9.
if Cre-ittk a tunntt.
tf ^pvnted Al^/.v •/ hV M^^/i HoxJimU^ Lari Lutdetumt tf tb§
mXidiiig 0} Tark/hirt, ^ftmsufdt cruted K..igH if the B*tb,
7? ADDENDA to the First Volume.
*«"»^,,J^" '• Dowdefwell William, Efq; Tt^kshurj.
DouglaTs WtUum, Efq; Captlin of Si>irts ef Kinrtfi tU
Foot. Clackmtttma.
Doaglafs Hon. Col. George. 'Burghs ofSeikirk.kt.
■f Drake Sir Francis Henry, Bart. 7avifietk.
Ducane Richard, Efq; Colcbtfttr.
Dunch Edmund, Efq; Mafter of the
King's Hou&old. IValling^ri.
•f- Edgecumbe Richard, Efq; a Com-
miffioner of the 1 reafury Plymfton.
£gerton Hon. -William, Efq; Col.
of Foot. Braeklij.
Erie Rt. Hon. Thomas, Lieutenant
Geneial of the Ordnance, and
Governor of Portfmoutb. W^rtham,
f Erie Giles, Efq; Captain ofHorfe-
\Stt Vol 111. p. 105.] Chifptnhitm.
Ernie Sir Edward. Bart. fartfmutb,
Evelyn George, Efq; BUcbinilj.
Eyles Francis, Efq; DireAor of the
South Sea Company. \Ztt Vol,
I. p. 230.] Dtvizet.
^ Eyles Sir John, Bart, a Dire^r of
the Bank, and Commilfioner of
the forfeited Eftatea. [Sie Vol.
II. p, 139-] Chippenham.
Eyre Giles, Efq; Downtton.
Farrer William, Efq; MalTer of St.
Catherine's in the Tower. Btdfori.
Farriugton Sir Richard, Bart. Cbicbtfitr.
Fergufon Alexander, Efq; Burgbt ef Dtm/na^
Ferrers Brigadier Thomas, Col. of fcc.
Foot. Pembroke 7«im.
Fielding Hon. William, Efq; Clcik
of the Green Cloth. Cafihrif.ng.
Fitz-Williams John, Lord Vifcount. Peterborouab.
Forbes John, Efq; Sbire of Invemji. 1
Forreftcr William, Efq; Great fVeaUck. \
Fowler Sir Richard, Bart. Sadnorjhirt.
f Frankland Thomas, Efq; (q) Think.
Fumefe Sir Robert, Bart. Romney.
* Gibbai
Rji.
ADDENDA to the FiRsr Volomb.
Gibbon Philip, Efqj CommiiHoner
of the Revenue of Ireland.
Gordon Sir Williaun, Bart Com-
Dtiihoner for flating the Debta
due to the Arm/.
Goagh Sir Richard, Bart, a Direc-
tor of the Eaft India Company .
Gould Nathaniel, Efi]; a Oire^r
of the Bank.
Graham Col. James.
Grantham Richard, Efq; a Com-
miflioner for the furfeited Eftates.
Grant Alexander, Efq; Col. of Foot,
and Governor of Sheeraefs.
Greenville Richard, Efq;
Gregory George. Efq; one of the
CommiiTioncrs for the forfeited
Eftates.
Griffith John, of Lynn, Efq;
Gnmltone William, Efq; (r)
CJrove Grey James, Efqj
Guidott William, Efq;
79
Anno *. CSMTfii L
1716.
Shire of Suthtrland,
Bramber.
Shoreham.
W^tfimtrtlani,
Linniit City.
Shirt of Elgin.
Wtndtvtr.
Nottingham Toivn.
CaernarvoKjbirf.
St Albans.
Brwdlej.
Andovir.
Haldane Patrick, Efq; one of the
Commiffioners of the forfeited
Eltates. \Set Vol. L p, 86.]
Haldane Mungo, Efq;
Hales Sir Thomas, Bart, one of the
CommiOioners for forfeited fifiates.
Hampden Richard, Efq; one of the
Tellers of the Excheqacr. [Stt
Fcl.Lf.i6s'\
Hamage Richard, Efq;
E^rvey Daniel, Gen. Col. of Horfe,
and Governor of Guernfey. '
Heathcote John, Efq; one of the
Diredors of the Ball India Com-
pany.
Heathcote Sir Gilbert. Knt. one of
the Direftors of the Bank.
Henley John, Efq; -
HiU Trevor, Efq; (t)
Burghs »f Forfar fSec.
Shirt of Stirling.
CaKterhmry.
Buckingbamfiire.
BifioptCafiie.
fftymouth.
Granthami
B,lfi9n.
Lyme Regis.
Aylesbury.
HiU
r)CnJUeJT'ifc»Mt Grjt^lIaHt'anJ Btnu tf Oiakfwty IB^ 4. 1719.
tj {Ttatid}X'imttliilibfgK%hxpiB*ti)niiSia:TU»gt.itn.i. l^^^.
So ADt>kUDA to the First Volume.
*"" \^^ '• HiU Sir Roger. We»dovtr.
yJ\r>^ HillerfiJen William, Efqj BedfirHbirt.
Hinchinbrook Xx>rd, Col. in the
Guards Huntinfltn 7tv:».
Hitch Robert, Efq; Knmrt^rtmb.
Hobarl Sir John, Bart, (t) St Ivtt.
Hopkins John, Efq; {Stt Vol. I.
p. 132.^ lkhefi«r,
Hopkins Edward, Efq; one of the
Comiriiffioners of the Revenue in
Irelaad. Myt,
f Hotham Sir Charles, Bart. Col. of
Foot. \Z€tVol.Lp.\(i\.'\ Brotrfy,
f Hoghton Sir Hear;, fiart. one of
Che ConimilEoners of the for-
feited ElUtes. Prtftw.
f Hucks Wiiliam, Efqi his Majefty**
Brewer. ^alUngftri
Humphreys Sir William, Bart. Mm-Bort^gt.
Jekyll Sir Jofeph, Knt. Chief Jn-
ftice of Chefler. (u) I'ymtwgtffM.
Jenkins Tobias, Efq; Tori.
-)- Jennings Sir John, Knt. one of the
Commiffioners of the Admiralty. Rochefler.
Jennings Philip, Efq; ^etnhtrough.
i Jeffop William, Efq; Welch Judge. AUbrow^.
Johnfon Sir Thomas,. Knt. Liverpool.
JanlTen Sir Theodore, Bart \^ti Yarmouib in tht lb
Vol. I. p. 231.] e/mgbt.
Ingram Arthur, Efq; Horjbam.
Ker Hon. William, Efq; Col. of
Dragoons, and Groom of the
Bed-chamber to the Prioa. Burghs a/ Djfari,txC
Knight John, Efq; (x) St GermaiMj.
Lade John, Efq; Sauthwari.
Leigh John, Efqj Bm^im.
Lnmi
ft) Modi a CommiSoHer qf Trsie aw/ ^Iswtalimi w tlvi Vmium^. t
Xi^ht<,ftlKRithfM^z'j,i-ji^,Mdtrut<dB«m StbmtiBl^^i
May a8, I718.
(h) Appointed Mtfjier of the Rob.
ADDENDA to the First Volume. 8i
Leiutard Sir Samuel, Bart, one of
the Grooms of the Bedchamber
to the Prince, and Lieuteoant of
the fecood Troop of Guards. Hjihe.
Xiitdeton Thomas, Capt. of Foot. MtUomh Regit.
Lockbarc James, Efq; one of the
Commiffioners of the £qaivalcnt. Shire «f Lantrk.
London John, Efq; WUhn.
Long Col. Qiarles DHmuieb.
Lovradcs William, Efqj Secretary
to the Treafury. St Mainet.
Lumley Hon. Heory, CoL of Horfe. Aruadih
Lyddal Thomas, Ef^; [See Vol /.
f. 70.] Ltfiwiibiii.
Aniwi. Ge«f(Ii 1,
171&
Maiden William, Efq;
Marfliam Sir Robert, Bart, (j)
Mafon Charles, Efqi
Maynard Thomas, Efq; Cofnmif-
fary-General of Minorca.
Mead Sir Nathaniel. Knt. his Ma-
jelly's Steward of Rtunford.
Medlicot James, Efq; Mafter in
Chancery.
Methaen Hon. Paul, (v) one of the
Commtffioners of the Treafury.
Meyrick Owen, Efq;
Micklethwaite Thomas, Efq; (a)
MiddlctoQ John, Efq; Lieutenant
Colonel 6f Foot, and Deputy
Governor of Tinmoutfa.
MinQioIl Edward, Efq;
Molefworth Robert, Efq; (h)
Molineux Samuel, Efq; <Hie of the
Secretaries to the Prince.
Monro Capt. Robert, Governor of
InFcrnefs, a Captain of Foot, and
one of the Commiffiooers for
forfeited Ellates.
Monfon Sir William, Bart, (c)
Montague James, Efq;
L
Hull. •
MaiJpani.
Sifinft-Cafih.
Wefikvi.
AjUshmry.
Milhourn ftrt,
Brackltj. '
JmgUj^.
Arundel.
Burghs of AberJeiitt
&C.
Srambtr.
St Michael.
Boffinty.
Burgbt ef Kirirj^allf
&c.
Aldhorougb.
Camelfsri.
Mon^mery
fjr) CrtMeA B^tm ff Kirnnn, ymMBf, 1714.
fx) CnMidKmigH U'th halt, M»y -7, Ijij. , ..„
^imt,Mmy \o, I717.
ft) CrtMtd m Xmp^ i^ ikt Bart, May 17, I'lS, ""i B*^ -Vfl«j-»
82 JDBBNDJ to the First Volumi. .
Montgomery John, Efq; one of the
Grooms of the Bed-chamber to
the Prince, ai^d a Captain of the
Foot Guards
Moreton Col. Matthew Ducy. (J)
Morgan Anthony, Efq; Deputy
Governor of the Ifle of Wight.
Morgan John, Efq;
Morrice Humphrey, Efq; one of the
Directors of the Bank.
Murray Lord James, Cgl. in the
Foot Guards.
Murray Alexaader, Efq;
Murray Alexander, Efq;
Naylor George, Efq;
Neville Hon. Grey, Efq; one of the
Commiffioners for llating the
Debts due to the Army.
Newport Lord Vifcount. (t)
Newport Hon. Thomas, Efq;
one of the CommiFioners of the
Treafury.
Noel Hon. John, Efij;
Norris Edward, Efq;
Norris Sir John, Knt. Admiral of
the Blue.
Northey Sir Edward, Knt. his Ma-
jcfiy's Attorney General.
Northey William, Efq;
Offley Crew, Efq;
Oliphant Charles, M. D.
Onflow Dcnzil, Efq; one of the
CommiiQoners of the Viflualling-
Office:
Onflow Thomas, Efq; Out-Ranger
of Windfor Foreft.
Oughton Sir Adolphus, Bart. Major
of the Guards, and one of the
Grooms of the Bed-Chamber to
the Prince.
Sbtre of Jir.
Gloucejierfiire.
Tarmauth in t6i IJU
of Wight.
Monmoutb&ire.
Hewpert in Crt-
ijsali.
Shire of Perth.
Sttuartry of Kirk-
CMt/hriflt.
Shire of Ftiblii,
Staford.
Berviei.
Salop County.
Great fTtnltck.
RutloH^hirt.
Liverfeol.
Rye.
7i'vertOM.
fVotton-Sefit.
Hrwcaftlt, Stafftri-
Jhire.
Burghi of Mft S^'
Guildford.
Surrey.
Coventry,
{1} Crtxlti Lord Ducy it Morttim, June S, ijio.
CeJ IV «Qwnt to tb« EmI '{Bra^J,
Owes
ADDENDA uthe
Owen Sir Arthur, Bart.
OjcendcQ Sir Henry, Bart.
First Volume.
Ponhroit/hiri.
Sandwich.
83
Anno ±,. fiea
171R
Page Sir Gregory, Bart, one of the
Directors of tae Ball lodia Com-
pany.
Palmer Sir Thomas, Bart, one of
the Commiffioncrs for ftating the
Debts dae to the Ann/.
PapilloQ Philip, Eiq;
• Parker Sir Philip, Bart.
Pawlet Lord William, one of the
Tellers of the Exchequer.
Paulett Norton, Efqt
• Paulett Lord Harry, Captain of
Dragoons.
• Pelham Thomas, Eiq; one' of the
Commi^ooCTs for ftating the
Debts due to the Army.
• Pelham Hon. Henry, Efq;
Pepper Brigadier, Col. of Dragowis.
• Piggot Robert, Efqi
Pitt Thomas, fenior, Efqi
Pitt Thomas, junior, Efq;
• Plumtree John, Efq: one_ of the
Commil&ODen for ftating the
Debts due to the Army.
Pollock Sir Robert, Bart. Gover-
nor of Fort William.
Porter Aobrie, Efq;
Frideaux Sir Edmund, Bart.
•)■ Pulteney William, EfqiSecretatyat
War [Ste V«L III. p. 200.]
Pynfent Sir WUIiam, Bart.
• Read Sir Thomas, Bart.
Rcbow Sir Ilaac, Knt.
" Rich Sir Robert, Bart. Col. of Dra-
goons.
Robarts Hon. Francis, Efqt one of
the Commifltoneri of the Reve-
nue in Ireland.
Robmfon Sir William, Bart.
Sboribam.
Raehtfttr.
Hover.
Uafwieh.
Winchefitr',
PtttrsJttU.
St. Ivu.
Haftings,
Sttjning.
HumHngtonfitirtL
OliSanm.
Wilton.
Nottingham 7ovm.
Shirt of Rtn/retiui
it EdmMndfituj.
TngtHj.
Hejitm.
TaUMlttM,
CritUadu
Cekbt^tr*
DMMtiiithi
SoJmin*
Ttrk.
Samuel Sir Thomas, Bart. Covntrj,
Sandford Sir Richard, Bart. War-
den of (lie Mint. A^ttiij,
8awi$
Siirt V
S4 ADDENDA to thtYi%tt Votoju.
Sciwen Sir Thomw, one of the IM-
rcAon of the Bank.
Scot Janes, Efq; Major in the Foot
Guanis
* Sdn^n Col. John, one of the Qcifci
of the Gfteo Goth to the Prince.
Shulc John BdrringtoD, Efq; (/)
• Slopcr William, F-fq; Seoetary to
rhc Pay-Mailer Geoenil-
• Smelt Leonaid, Efq; one of ibe
Commiffioners fbr tkting ifae
Debet due 10 the Army.
Smith Jaracs, Efq;
Smith John. Efq; one of the Tel-
lers of the Exchequer.
Sondes Edwanl Lnrd VlfcouDt.
Stanhope Gen.Jamei, (g) otK of the
Secret&ries of Stue.
Stanhope Hon. William, (h)OiUad
of Dragoons.
Stanhope Philip Lord, fi) one of
theCertlemcoofthe BeJ.chamber
to the Prince.
Stanwix Thomas, Eftj; Col. of Dn-
vooos, and Governor of Chelfci
Hofpital.
Staryan Abraham, Efq;
Sted Sir Richard, Mailer of the
Phy-Houfr, aiid o:ic of the Com-
mtdioDen for the fotfeited Eftaiei.
Stewart BrigaJier John, Lieutenaai
Colonel CO the third Regiment of
G uardi. Shirt *f ^^^
* Slewirt Wniiam. Elq: one of the
Sectetariei to the Priuce, liid Re*
Biemhranccrof the Exclicqacr \a Bmrghs »f
Scotland. ftc.
St Quintin Kr Williwn, Bart, ooa
of the Comnufiionen of the Tnx-
for/. BmIL
KtriUAHm,
Tmrnrntm,
DtrhfTmmM.
StCtf
CarliJU.
y^h ta. 1717. aJ £>W jSmMt, Jtf>il^, 1 it.
ADDEi^DA rt tht Fiwr VoLuiu. 8^
Strickland William, Eiq; one of the aho &. cm
Commiffionen of Uie Rerenoe in \^^^^
IreUnd: CmrHJe. %.^^^^^
Tench SirFilher» Bart one of the
South Sea DireOora SaMimari,
ThompTon WiUiam, Efq; Searhan^h,
Thompfen Sir William, Kot. Re-
corder of London. Stfttdtb.
Tirwhit Sir John, Bart. limaim Cmuy,
Townlhcnd Hon. Horatio. Efq; one
of the DiicAon of the Sooth Sea
Tiaran Senrnd, Efq; Anditor to the
Prioce* and one of the Cleriaof
the King's Worlo. JT/a^.
Tiebr GMffB, Elqi one of the
ComnifioMn for tbm SaOtxttd
SItates. Pfymftm.
Ticfoflt SuwmI. Eiq; Ptmyn,
TicUwny Sir John, Bart, one of the
GentlenKn of the Bed-duunber to
the Ihince. Leihiri,
Trenchard George, Efqt PmU,
Tieranan J^a» Efq; [5'// f^tl. 2,
p. 69.1 CtnwaiL
Tnftbel Samad, Efq: [Sa Ftl I.
^. loi.] MaUtn.
Tamer Clwlnilex, Efat Nmhm^inm,
Tonier Sir Charies, Knt. one of the
Cdauiiffionenofthe Admical^.. lyn.
Vua Piatrick. Elqi Stirih f/fP^twJSK.
Vernon Thorau. Efq; Wvrttfitt^t,
Vincent Henry,, jnnior, Efq; one of
the OoouniSoncrs of the Viftul-
iing-Office. Ftwtj,
Wade Gen. Col. of Foot. mndn.
Wager Sir Charlet, Knt. Rear Ad-
miral of the Red, and Comptrol-
ler of the Navy. Ptrtjmmtb.
Wallop John, Efq: ('/^ Stutbamptmi CtnH,
Walpole
*
S8
ADDENDA /« th Fikst Volvmi.
ABM 1. eeor{iII.
1716.
Bland Sir John, Bart.
Booth Hon. I^nghaln* Efq;
Bracebridgf Samael, E%
f BramAone Thomas, Efq;
Bromley William, £fqi (ti) {St*
Vol. I. p. 90.^
Bromley John, bibj
Bruere George, Elq;
Bonboiy Sir Henry, Bart.
* Batlei Jaracs, Bfq;
Calmady Shilfton» Efq;
Calthorpe Reynolds, Efqs
-Calvert Felix. Efqs
f Carew Sir William, Bart.
f DutwT^ht Thomas, Efqj
Cave Sir Thomas Bart.
Cecil Hon. Charles, ££q;
Champemoon Arthur, Efq;
Chaplin Sir Robert, Ban. (&//U /.
Checwynd Wa\teT, Efq;
Chifwd Richard, Efq;
Clarges Robert, Efq;
Codrington }ohn, Elq;
t Coffin Richard, ETq;
Colemore William, Efq;
Conyers John, Efq;
Conyers Thomas, Efq;
• Cope Sir John, Knr.and Bart
Cope Sir Jonathan, Bart.
Corrance Clement, Efq;
f Cotton Sir John Hinde, Bart.
4 Courtney Sir William, Bart-
Cox Charles, Efq;
Cox John, Efq;
Crofs Sir Thomas, Ba«.
CurzoD Sir John, Bart.
Darers Sir Robert, Bart.
Delaune William, Efq;
Downe Lord Vifcount.
Drake Montague Garrard, Efq;
Laneajhirt.
Cb^rt.
Tamnogrth.
Maiden.
Oxford UMtmrJSty,
CamiriJgffbirt,
itarlm.
Chtfitr,
Smftx.
SmU^,
flindeit.
Riadii^.
CormvialL
N9rtba»lptt^ftin,
Ltictfitrfoirt.
Stamfords
7»tmefi.
Grimily,
UtchfieU.
Calm.
tliadit^,
Bmtt.
Camilfard.
Wariuick.
Grinfiemd.
Durham Cttj.
7fmflock,
Bamhmrj.
Orford.
Cambridge Ttmik
Drvom/hire.
Cleucefier City.
Mi&0r»t Pm-I.
Wefiminfitr.
Dirbjjbirt.
Ktnt.
Yoriflfirt.
E>k
(a) Century V Sutehi tht Ke^it of ^fo* Anat.
jfDDENDjf ta the FiftST VbLuue.
Frie Joreph. Efq;
i^cn Sir John^ Bart.
Klford JoDlthzD, Efq;
Elwea Sir Harvey, Bart.
England George, Efq;
Ettricke William, Efq;
Fane Hon. John (c) Col. of Foot-
finch Daniel (J) Lord.
Eleetwood John, Efq;
Fleming Richard, Efq;
¥o\ey Thomas, Efq;
Foley Richard, Efq;
Fownds John, jun. Efq;
Freeman Ralph, Efq;
Fuller Samuel-loiter, Efq;
Godfrey Peter, Efq;
Grey Thomas de, Elq;
Guemfey Heneage, lird. (e) [See
n/. 2. f. 68.]
Hanmer Sir Thomas, Bart.
Hardreis John, Efq;
t Harley Edward. Efqj
Harvey Williim, Efq;
Heath Thomas, Efq;
Hcdworth John, Efq;
Herbert James, Efq;
, Heme Jofeph, Efq;
Heron Henry, Efq;
Heylham Robert. Efq;
Heylham William, Efq;
Hill Samuel, Efq;
Holmes Henry, Efq;
Hopton Richard, Elq;
Y Homer Thomas, Efq;
How Sir Richard, Bart
Hungerftird John, ETq;
Hutchefon Archibald, Elq;
Hyde Robert, Efq;
M
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Oi Atw £4rl (/ Aik4»d,
BriftoL
Durham Caimtj,
Fetvey,
Sudbiay,
Tamnutb in Norfolk.
Chriflcbarch..
Kent.
RutUaiiAire,
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Hertfordfiiire.
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London.
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Surry.
Suffolk.
Canterbmrj.
LtominStr,
Effex.
Harwieb.
Durham Conntf.
Oxfor^re.
Dartmouth.
Boften.
London.
Lancafler,
UtcbfieU.
farmouib.
HerefirdAiri,
WtUt.
mitflnre.
Scarborough.
Hayings.
mii^ire.
Jefie>'i
«9
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<)o ADDENDA u /^ First Volumb.
Uffreyi Edward, Efq-.
Jenkinroii Sir Robett, CuL
Jennings James, Eftji ■
ieaningi John, Elqi
ng Witliun, Efqt
Ingram Hon. AfUlur. Elq:
Jolinfon Sir Henry, Koi.
Johnfon William, Efqi
latma Sir juftinian, birt.
Kaye Sir Artlmr, B»rt.
Kfymis Sir Chirks. Bart.
Kiiig Thocnu, Efq:
Kynaftoa Corbet, Efqt
Lambert Edward, El^t
Laufon Gilfrid, F.ftj;
Lcchmcic Anthony, Efq}
Leclimcte Nicholaj, Efqi (f)
+ Lee Sir Thomas, Bart.
Lcevei Robert, Efqi
Leicei^t Sir Froocif, Bart.
+ Leigh HoQ. Claries, Efqt
\ Lcvin2 William, Efq;
Lewcn Sir William, Kw.
• Lewis Thomai, Efcj;
LewiiThomai, tCq;
Long Sir Jamn, Bart.
* Loogucville Charles, Efq:
Lgwtber James, Efq;
f Luiwyche Thomai, E(q;
^ MaAer Thomas, Efq;
Mews Sir Peter, Knt.
Morgan Sir Thomas, Bart.
Morricc Sir Nicholas, Bart,
f MoAyo Sir Roger, Bart.
f Ncwiand Williiffl, Efqs
Nicholas Eduard, Efqi
Kmh Dudley, ETqt
N' I ilifnore William, jan. E^i
Kottliiclgb Siepben, l^jq;
CAimriJteJhtrt,
Htifiam.
Al^hrtwgft, S^^.
Hffhum FtrMrt,
ThU.
SamlbamftM Ta
irtom Befftt.
Owwmtttn.
Cirtvtfitr.
CbtiJUhmrtb,
tifrtnwJfbirt.
Catftv.
OirUmfitm.
fttai/i.
tfi *»**#/ a«E«!fcr if ^ D^h Y Lw.Vr, Jm la, ijit.
ADDENDA uthe First Volume.
Packer Robert, Efq;
Packington Sir John, Bart.
Paget Heniy Lord.
Palmer Thomas, Efqj
Palmer Sir Jeoffry, But.
Parker Charles, Efq;
Puke I'homas, L. L. D.
Peytoe William, Efq;
Pitt, George, Efq;
Pitt Georee, jun. Efq;
Pole Sir William, Bart.
Randyl Morgan, Efq;
Raymond Sir Robert, (g) \Stt
Reynel RicbanI, Efqi
Rogers Sir John, Bart.
Rofs General Charles.
Rowney Thomw, Efq;
Rudge John, Efq; a Direfior of the
Bank.
Rulbout Sir John, Bart.
9»
Berifiirt.
Weretfttr^^ire.
BriigiKOttr.
Ltitefttrfitirt.
Piltrbonugb,
C^mhri^gtUnivtrjitj,
IVamvickfiiirt.
Soutbampton&ire.
Warth»m.
Hmittn.
QmiU/ard.
Lttilovj.
PlfmoHtb.
Shirt of Reft.
Oxford Citj.
M<vt0jam,
Mamttbury.
Aaaai. GMrgU I.
17 lO.
Sawbridge Jacob, Efq; [Sti Vol.
I.p.iii.]
-f Seabright Sir Thomas Saunden, Bt.
Shepheard Samuel, Efq;
t Shippen William, Efq; [5» Fo/.
I. f. 71.1
f SimtdewDRn Richard, Elq;
Smith Thomas, Efq;
Smtthfon, Hugh, Efq;
SneUJohn,Efqi {Set Voi. I. p. S6.}
Stephens Thomas, Efq;
Stephens William, E{qs
Stonehoufe Sir John, Bart.
SuadliRg Sir Edward, Ban.
Strangeways, Thomu, Efq;
* Sutton Richard, Biwadier General.
Swanton Francis, Qq;
Crickladt.
Htrtford^ire.
CambrUgt Towm.
Saitafi.
Laiieajhire.
Eyt.
MiidUfix.
GUaapr.
GUuctfitrfiiirt.
Ntnuport in tbt Ifi* of
mgbt.
Btrkfhire.
Cairdifft.
Darft0>irt.
Niwark.
Nru Sarum.
t Talbot John Ivory, Efqi
Trenchard Henry, Efqi
tudgtrfiaif.
Darfbifitr.
Tieror
m AgtuitiHiiiioi^y'tAt^wjGwMra,
9* ADDENDA to the
*"^ %'^^ '• Trevor John Morley, Efq;
Trotman Samuel, £(<];
Tonier Sir Edward/ Knt.
Vanghan Richard, Efq;
Vernon Thomas, Efq;
Urquhart Alexander, Efq;
Walcot Humphrey, Efq;
Walter Sir John, Bart.
Warbarton Sir George, Bait-
Ward John, Efq;
Ward WiUiam, Efq;
Ward Jofhua, Efq;
Wentworth Hon. Thomas, Efq;
Wefteme Thomas, Efq;
Whitelocke Sir WUliam, Knt
Willonghby HoD.Francis, Efq; (h)
Windfor Hon. Dixie, Efq;
Wioflanley James, Efqi
Woriley Sir Robert, Bart.
FiR9T Volume.
Lrvats.
Bath.
Orford.
Wrightfon William, Efq;
Wyitcs WiUiam, Efq; \Zit
I. p. 4.]
Wymic Richard, Efqi
(b) Kga Jjtri MiJJletur.
Vol.
Merionetbfiirt.
tfhitchurci.
Shirts i>/ Neirne mad
Cromarty,
Ludiovj.
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7hetfird.
Stafferd^ire.
Maribonmgb,
Maltom.
Sudbury.
Oxford Univn-fitj.
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Zeieejler Trum.
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fTtgbt.
Nrwemfiii.
Nerthamptan Town.
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( t )
A LIST of the Members of the House of Comuohs who voted for
the CONVENTION, ibewing the Placci which they or their Re-
latifHU enjoy, befidet whit Jecrtt Fa-vetin may be conferred en them.
Teller for tke Ccnvention.
Saliric* ftr Am,
Tba-Wianiogton, £1^} Lont of the Treafuir
tbocl.
ABncnimby, Jima, BimfflUre, Capt. of
F. and D~-p. Gor, of Stirling Caftle 6oa/.
A-Court, Vierce, Heyteftury, Two BroilKn
in the Oiurdt
Alfton, Sr Rowland, Bclfordflure
Archer, Thomw, Warwick, Tniftee (or
Geoi^ia
Archer, Heni7> Waivricic, Tniflee for
Georgu
AidkiiK, CharUf, Dumfreuflurc, Lord Ad-
vocate of Scotland looo/.
Arondtil, Hon. Richard, Koarclborough,
Maftcr Worker of the Mint i^ooL
AAe, Jof- Wif^ham. D.^'nton
Adlbarnbain, Sir WU. Haftingi, Cammif-
fioner of the Alienation Office, «nd Chain<
berbin of the Tally Court 800/.
Baker, Hcrculet, Hythe, Trcafufcr of
Greenwich Holpita] 500/.
Bille, Thomai, £n|pr
Bnghao, Edm. Hungate, Winchelfea
Bcauclerk, Lord Vere, VTu^l'or, Lord of
the Admltalrf f 000 /.
ynuderk, Lord Sidney, Windfor, Brother
to Lord Vers and D. of St. Alban's, ob-
tained a Rererfionary Grant of Crawo-
Lands after a fhort Term
Bstie, Hon. Albemarle, Boftno
Bivao, Arthur, Caernurthcn
Bifie* See. Romney, ConmiiGnner for Vic^
tuaUing the Navy, Cktlc of the Crown
1000/.
Xbden, Martin, kfalden, Commiflioner of
Trade, and Cnnmiflary for fettling the
Trade in the Netherlandt » joo /.
Bhdea, Thonaa, A&burton
Vockland, Maaricc, Lyminitm, Col' of the
foot Cuardi 500/.
Bond, John, Corft>CaiUe, Hii Brother
King'i Letter-carrier
Bowlet, Brig, phineu, Bewdley, Col, of a
Reg. of Dragoons in Ireland, and Brip-
dkr on the IriA £ftablifhment VMOt,
Boyne, Lord Vifc. Newport, Commiilioaer
of tlv Revenue in Ircbnd looo/>
Boyston, Sir Fraocii, Heydon, His Son in
the Army
Bradflui^h, Sir Roger, Wigan, Hb Som ia
the Army and at Court
Bradfluw, Elerker, Beyerly
Brafly, Nathaniel, Hen&rd
iKtMui, Thot Linrpool, Conimif, of the
VldualUng Office, hi* Son in the Lottery
Office 500 /.
Bridget, Geo. Winchcfter
Briftow, John, Borealfton, Dep, Cor, of
the South-Sea Company
Briftow, Robert, Winchelfca
Brodie, Ain. El^nAlre, Lyon King at
Amu, ftC' Soot.
Brodte, Ales. Nalmffiire, Hi) Brother a
, Company in Ncw-Yurk
Bromley, Hen. Cambridgelhire, Ucutcnut
of the County of Cambridge
Brown, Sir Robert, Ivelchefter
Brudenell, Hon. Jamet, Chich<;lVer, Com-
miffic^r of Trade, Groom of the Bed-
chamber, and Gentleman of the HorC: to
his Majefly aooo /.
Burchet, Jofiah, $andmch. Secretary of the
Admiralty tiooA
Burrell, Peter, Haflemere, Sub-Guvenm
of the Sonth-Sea Company
Butler, Jim«, SulTcx
Byng, Robert, Plymouth, Commillioner of
the Na\y, now Governor of Barbados
500/.
Campbell, Btig. Jamet, Aiifliire, Col. of
the Reg. of Grey Dragooni, and Groom
of the Bcd-Chamber, and Governor of
Edinburgh CalUc i%col.
Campbell, Colonel John, Dumbartonfliire.
Groom of the Bedchamber,' and C»l. of
a Regiment of Foot, and his Daughter
Keeper of Somerfr t H ,ufe i4'?o /.
Campbell, lufan, Pembrukclhire, Lord of
the Admiralty, with Lod^ng, Fire and
Candle 1300 f.
Carmicbael, Hon. Tames, Lanerlc, Sic Rro>
ther to the Earl of Hyndlvrd, a Lord "f
the Police, and Commilliooci to th: Af-
fembly in Scotland
Care-., Walter, fcrtmouth, Clerk cf tlie
Green Cloth, and Ctmndl 150/'.
Cafwel, Sir George, LcomlnAer
Cavendilht Philip, Portlmcuth, Admiril af
the Blue, and Porter of St. Janin's
Palace 6or. !.
Champion, Sir Geo^e, Ayl-^fbun,', B. B
Cholmondflcy, Hon. Jimw, Omelfind,
Lieut. Gov. of Cbcltcr Caltle, and Liciit.
Cnl. of the Horfe Guards toou K
Churchill, Chirle*. Cjftle-rlfinp
Gen. Groom of thp B.:d-ChaT-
Majcrty, Csl. of a Reg. of Dr
Gov. of Piyminjth, &c. airf
Place in the Cunom-houfei 1*
Chute, Aotboiiy, Yannontn
A
^
c «
kwrif'S. J"t>tt. Prr.fyn, Cm&m of ihe
Bc4-Ouinbcr to kn MijcOv foo/.
jyten. Sir WiUum. BJecliingJy, Sevia-
Ircn of his ReUtiar;) in Plice
iv^^e, Kcitrtck, BiecIuok))-. Soa es Sir
;)<iTtfrt<ucIc, Thcvu), Pljrajiloo, I.onl of
tbc AdminItT loco /•
noUy. Wiiliam, AMboiouth
t, Bri£> C«n. Jeh«, cjrfonl, Cckincl of
IUb- u^ Dr*Bv<MH in IrtUnJ iJOoA
?. ^ Joka. Lymingtm, hUScDAplaa
■I Cf^un, <ec.
>pldh>n. Tfeo. lOllinpom, Cletk of the
0<iii Ruiu, ud Forticilure Oficc in Irc-
(bit, Willtm, Mnntfmay, bit Falher
» CdtniritilMncr of tlu CuftoiM
Cwi'ci. 'Iheaiai, Siltift, I'nitr SccrtMry
to i)ic Ad-Ti'TBlr}-, *f4 Stc. toOitmwith
HoTp. i;^ thr Wik^wtChantr SooA
.C«rnw4ll. Jtn-vv, W«obi>, CtpOiA Of t
Mtn cf Wat 4cc/.
PCotnwAlUt, Hott. Stc. Eye, Col. ot ■ ILc(.
flf Foot in £;-.( l^nd tWM /.
CwinaUitr Hon. John, Ejrc
Oowk, Ccofsc, HuU, ConunUfioptrof ths
K»»y 500 /.
Cnrutn. Etltririd, CoclmiDOuth
Umren, Jufcph, Teiiirft
Darcy, Sir Cnytn, lUchBiind, Cotnptral*
Icf of ilio KouAnU ioco r.
Dcnnii, CcMge, l^fluri* ConiftroUcr of
the tontr/s (oo /•
Pa<l<lui|t«i. CwrSB, BridnoraUf, Vui -f
tbt TtuAuy, and t:kik ti ibe fMb m
Ucknd 2100 i.
Doddinitm, QMntc, Wcyinoiich
Poug'ai, KMV.Xi>b«t,Otknc. 'od Zetland.
C'puin of i Camp, cl Fucr x^oA
JXwi'lntt, Str C<vt|iii, IX»wkii, Ka^ht «f
the Bath
jPrufntnondf John, Doodee, &c. Comalf-
ijty 1«( I'cnlint ihf I'laiW in ihi N'tlhu-
hail, and hu Ncphcwr ScutUfy tu the
OHrf of thcTbiOle 1500/.
Dwkm. C^t, WiII..m, Cain, liou. Cd.
^v ia ttic Uocfe-Gx»uitrr* SOO'.
^^tounccinb'^, Aathoay, Omratoa
^^fcummer, iho. SmittusipttiB, Kb Fathrr
^m kA Self PbCM hi the Ciut WAnliobc
^K^Hlct Cl'ftf K^JnrlhuT]', I.«id cf the
^■1 IfCifur? I&Dof.
^^*Iari. Vi'iiUtn) Rawlnfiin, Jkf aIowAvi* ,
Unit Of Ucli«cnci ui ttw UiiioiDU Uf-
ftto 600/.
<lCK(;mVc, RIchanlf Ldtwilhitl . J<>u>t
A'-j'*- C«»aitjjr, Sob t» Oh twi
I
tratm, RkluH. <^tn>twwn)i, Cmi»4
Dn%iMMt, tod Dtf . Cww mt^a*
ocfi. &c. fait
E*ct» fid, C&u-Im. ftorOun
Zj\a, Sirjotcph, Dtviaa, Bndtf ttti
P«ft-&Uiwt CoMnl, aa4 RnMOr b
the Cr/wn *P*^
E7l«t, C*ft. Fraocif, DvlMa, Om^
fioDR fer TiOiatliBf cIm Kjvy }■(
Falcoccr, John, KiocuifiBiAtf*
Fall. J>m», Jc^bonh. »(• ■ Ub«
Holy lOiBd
Faac, FrincU, T'unioa, Kta|*9 OiMlf
at.d 10 lh< Bnard of Tndc !»«■
FiiKti, II«o. Hen. RubtM-C— ^ ■«
CoUcdor of the r 11 iL is I^bb
FiKTcr, Chifld, 7l>«1fa>4, Miarrfb
MijcRy't Tcttui* Court Mi GmB ^
Hotfe 4PC I
Fm. !t»i>h«i. ShifrAwr*. fan m^p^
Sccictiij gf the TmnKy
Fes, Km. HindM, Sotvryvt Ob^ «f
hii Majcftii'* Wotk»
Fr>iJ(Und, Sir TU,. -TUrikr.
Admintty, vltliLod^lm. Fai>al<
"-. —
FnnUiad, Frcdokk, TlwftB, ki* ft^
ther
Frt^icilck, ThoBui, SbecdutB* Tr^vW
Ci8<, SirWUliM, ScafM. H^tAtd^
Bath
C4Uway. U)t4Vifc««u, I^Miiin. 0».
mltioKt sf Oh Ri iiaat la. 1»1«<
Glhtm, Tb»- Ytrnmith. ]» H^ Ce-
myaacvT ts Sr Roi. W*^^, sod^tei
to the Piy Oflke
G;U*tt. Rxbtid, LlwTMt, Kbtttdte
Rutivtr Ceo. »f ^ L^oi Tn Iv fc
Ottniy of LanMfin^ Uki fw rf fe* »
«thct 5c«n t^. ■ jfJ !-■ fti.
CknoTcby, ' lalnAi
CoUih, S.T .-r
Cwili, Op:- &;.(taiu, UmAh rfte
laJl-lD4u OmiftBy
CnMi Sir J*iBU> ImrrarfA. A C^v
of DMioutSffwUkl. UicUcAfcaGv-
milKgnar of Poi^>x. hu Ir-*^ ^-^ c^
Uh) bi th« Anny. u4 b" jf-
tM» 01 in Ir4«rcii4a« Cm; [
GtTT. llta.KrMtat
Gniwy. Cf»,
kcewT of UK Oeisimtiet.
Cdfiih, Jiln, CtfnRt^Mftitt, l
Feot ; , ^
Cnm. Ctn ]«»» JMgnMvth
South S*aCaipqr
H4li», Sir TlMiBI* CMtolsir
f 3 )
Ibteft Tbo. Ui ion, Cnmpcniid, Cferlc Kiiufton, Wm. Shrcwlbury,
. ot the Boofd of Greeil CIoUi tcxra/-
ittJka, Pfetcr, InTcrkettbeQ, CapUin ot
Foot 350/.
"ttMrnfin, John, 'Wcndover, Cofflmiflary of
the Store* U Oibnltu 500 /.
Haabwy, Wnuun^ Moimtonthfhfte, Htir
BxptOut to the hte I^rd Ranelagb'i
Elbte
Haniitji, BHi-KogR, Httntiiiston, Col.
of a Reg. of Footf and Coventor of Fott
PUtip «!<><>'•
Harm, John, Hclfton, Treifurer to the
Board of Worki 600 /.
Harrcy, John, Ryegiite
Hit, WiUiam, Scaford, CoainiiiGaner of
ac ViOiulUiig OfRcc joo /•,
HeathEOte, Sr John, Bodwin^ Trufiee for
Ceoffii
Hedwortfa, John, Durham
Henlex, Hen. Holt, Ljrme-Regli, aerfc of
the Pipe 500/,
Herbert, Moo. Tho. Newport Hsmti, Col.
in the F. G. ud ^ynuftcr to Gibraltar
i3oo/.
Her1>erti Hon. Rob. WUton, Connnii&o&er
of Trade 1000 /.
Herbert, Hon. WilUam, Wiltnn, Colonel
In the Foot Gnards eoc /.
Herbert, Hon. Arthur, Ludlow, Lieut.
of the County of Salop
Heron, Patrick, KirkudbriBht, Hli Son >
Company la Georgia
Hcrvcy, Hon. Tho. St. Edmundflnry^JSur-
vcyor of hit Majefty'i Gardeoi and Water-
Worki tool.
Hininun, Jof. Chrift-Church, Woodward
and Keeper of Nevr-Poreft, &c> 500/.
Hoby, Sir Thomat, Great Marlow
Hoghtoo, Sr Hen. PitAoa> Judge Ad?o-
cate Soo /.
Holden, Sunnelj Eaftlow, XKneOor of the
Bank
Howard, Hu. Cha< Culine. Colonel of a
Regiment of Foot in Ireland, and Dep.
Cor. of Carlifle Caftle lioal.
How, John, Wiltihire
Howirth, Sir Humph. RadnorAIre
HuEki, WUUam, WaUii^ford, the Kins'a
Brewer
Hucki, Robert, hit Son, Ahinddon, Truftee
forGeor|ja
Huxley, George, Newport hi Hanti, Com-
mi(&ry of the Mnften toof.
JenntTon, Ralph, Northumberland, Mafter
of the Buck Honndi 1400/.
Jewkes, John, Aldborough b YorUhire
Ingram, Hod. Charlet, Horlhim, Colonel
of the Foot-Gnarda joo /.
Keat, Samud, Ipfwich, D^ftiller u the
Covrt
His Brothe
Solliciior to the Culioms
Knight, Robert, Grimfby, Son to the bt«
Calhicr of the South Sea Co ropany
Lambton, Hen. Durham
Laroche, John, Bodmyn^ Truftec for Ceor^a
Lawrie, Sir Rubcrt, Dumfries, &c. Son lu
Law to the Lord Advocate for ScotUnd
LtwiDi, John, Newcaftle SuRordOiire, lata
chief Clerk of the Suretiet of the Kxc.fe
Leithei, Carteret, Harwich
Lehtup, Ifaic, KcUiagton, Brother in L«w
to Hor. Walpote, and fmt formerly Mi-
niller to Germany, ind Mi Brothers and
Rclationi provided for
Leivii, Tho. Radnor, Several Rebtiont is
the Cuftomi
LiddeH, Sir Hen. Morpeth
Liddell , George , Berwick, Director for
Greenwich Hofpital. of Lord Efctwent-
water'i Eftatn
Undefay, Patrick, Ediobur^, Hit Bro-
thcr-iu'Law Receiver- General in Scot'
land
Lockyer, Charlet, Ivelcheller
Lungueville, C}iAlu. Ealtlow, Auditor to
the late Qgeen, bcfidet his other Employ-
ment 800 /•
Lowiher, SirWiUian, PontefraA, Hit Bro-
ther a Place in the CuTtoms
Lloyd, Walter, Ckidigandllrc, Attorney
General in Walei 300/.
Lloyd, Richard, Cardipn
Lyttlcton, Kr Thomat, Camelfbrd, Lord
of the Admiralty, with Lodging. Fire
fod Candle 1300 A
Maifier, Henry, Kingfton apoa IIuU
Martin, Mattbnv, CocbeAer, DiieAor of
the EafV- India Company
Manle, William, Forlirfhire, Captain of
Foot, and hit Brother Re^fhnr of Scifinga
in Scotland %^o i.
Mcdiicott, Thomal, Milbume Port
Kfiddlefex, Earl, Eaft.Grinilead, Son xa
the Lord Steward
Middlctnn, Sir William, Northumberland
Middlcton, Brigadier John, Montrofe, ftc«
Colonel of a Reg. of Foot in England,
Gov. of Holy-Ifland, and Porvpyor of
Coal and Candle for the Guard-Room at
Edinburgh 1400 /.
Mill, Sir Richard, Penryn
Monfon, Cula, Lincoln, Deputj' Pay-Ma-
fteroftheArmy 1000 /.
Montagu, Lord Robert, Huntingdon, Vice*
Chamberlain to her late Majelly 500 1.
Mordaunt, John, Nottinglumfliire, Hul-
band to a Lady of the Bed-chatnber to
the hte Queen 500 /.
Mordaunt, John, WitchuTch, Col. in the
P. G. and E^acrry 10 tiie King S0O /.
A 7. Mor^,
( 4 )
Morten, WilBam, Dumvieh
fJldt^n, Thomsi, Monmouthflurt, Lieu-
tenjM of the County of Monmouth
Munm, Sir Robert, Dingwall, ttc. His
Brother an indepeixieDt Company
Murray, Lord John, Perthflure, Colonel in
the Foot-Ciurdi 500/.
Nafmith, Sir Janei, pMbleAiire, His Bro<
ther Clerk to the Conuniffioo of Notaries
In Scotbod
Norm, Sir John, Rye, Vlctt-Adiniral of
GngUnd, Admbal of the Red i 10a /.
Nortosj Thomai, St. £dmund'i-ButT> Lieu.
Gov. of Chelfea College 600 /.
Olmiot, John, Weymouth
Onflow, Right Honourable Arthur, Surrey,
Speaker of the Hotfe of Conunoiu,
Chancellor to the lUe Queen, and Tna'
fnrer of the Navy 5000/.
OnAow, Richard, Guildford, Colonel of a
Regiment of Foot, and Adjutant- Gene -
nt 1600 /■
Ofialde&m, ViUbm, Scarborough
Owen, WilUam, Pembroke, His two Bra-
then Cap^ini of Dragoons, and hii'third
Brother Uent. in thf Guardt 300/.
Owen, John, Weftlow, Sectmd Brotlier to
William Owen^ Capt> of a Company of
Drafoons
Palmerfton, Lord Vif. Boflincy, Chief Re-
membraDGCT in the Court of Exchequer
in Ireland loeo A
Papilion, David, Dover, his Son a Place
Piriont, Henry, Maiden, Purveyor of CheU
fca College, and CommiiHom^ for Vlflual-
ling the Navy, tec. tec. zoooA
Pearfe, Thomas, Weymouth, Camminkiner
of (he Navy 500 /.
pL-irfe, Henry, Northallerton
I'elham, Right Honourable Henry, Sullex,
I'ay-Mafter of lus MajcHy'k Forcei, &c.
5000/.
Pclham, James, Newark, Secretary to the
Lord Clumberlain, tec. 600/.
Pclham, Thomas, Ha&ings, Secretary to the
Bmbiffj at the Court of France 600 /.
Pennington. Sir Jofcph, Cumberland, His
Son (by his Surrender) Comptroller of the
Excifc-caOi
Pinton, Henry, Tregony
PhiUipron, John, Shoreham, chief Clerk
in the Navy-Office, fmze made Com-
miHioner of the Navy, and re-chofe joc/.
Peers, WilUam, Wells, His Son in the
Army
Pigot, Robert, Iluntingdonfhlre
Plumer, Richard, St. Maw's, Comm'Hioner
of Trade lociO /.
Piumtree, John, Nottingham, Trcafurer ro
tiie Ordnance \z,<iaK
Recorda in th* Towtr» and Mi ywfllV
. Brothei'Kcepcr of the Record* 50a U
Pollen, John, Andover
Poulet, Hon. Peregrine, Boffiaey, Bnther
to a Lord of the Bed-chamber to hia M«-
jefrf 300 1.
Fuwictt, Lord Hany, Hanpfliirc, Lnd af
the Admiralty, and bit Stw as Eafi^n ia
the Guard* ijso/.
PuTvb, George, Aldbonwgh, Comp^olkr
of the Navy looo/.
Read, Sir Thomai, Cricklade, CUrk of
the Board of Green-cktth
Revell, Thomu, Dofer, Cooui^ for vk*
tuatling the Navy^ and Cooti after far
Gibraltar OoooA
Rich, Sir'Robert, St. Iret, Groom ot the
Bed-chamber, and Col. of a Repaaeatof
Dragoons, and hit Son a Comet of Vi»-
goont , ^tooi^
r>ob4nfon, Nicholas, Wotton Baflet, Cap-
tain of a Sloop to prevent Sno||liaf
500 £
Rofe, Hugh, Roliaure, hit Vock LUutc-
nant-ColoDel ofDragoont
Ryder, Dudley, Tivensn, Attomey-Ccneol
tJOD^
Sackville, Lord John, Tamworth, Son to
the Lord Steward, Captaia of a Compaq
of Foot 150/.
St Clair, James, Sutherland (hire, CoU of a
Reg. ot Foot, and of two Battal. MOO/.
St John, Pawlett, Wincheftcr
Scrope, Hon. John, Lyme-Regii, Secretary
to the Treafury 3000/*
Sclwyn, John fenior, Glocefler, late Rccciv-
er-Gcnetal of the Cufloms, and I'antoi-
et'd it to his Brother, Treafufer to the
late Queen 4600/.
Selwyn, John, junior, Whitechurch, Tim-
futer to the Duke and Princeflci, and the
RcvcrGon of two Places in the WeA-Indkt
tool.
Shelley, Sr John, Arundell, Brotber-lD-law
tothc Dujccof Newcaftic, his Brother a
CommilTioner of the Stamp-Duty
SUpcr, William, Great Bedwin, Deputr
Cofferer 1000 /-
Smdl, Leonard, Northallerton, Clerk sf
the Ordnance 700 t<
Stert, Arthur, Plymonth, Comtniflary fir
fettling the Merchants LofTea by the Spa-
niards ever fmce the Year I7»S loOQ L
Steuart, Hon. Col. James, Wigton, Sec. CoL
in the Guaidj coo/.
Steuart, William, Bamff, &c. Pajnu^eref
foreign PenfioM, and Ovcvicer of the
King's Swans, and principal King's Re-
membrancer ^r the £xciieyici in Scot-
UtU 140QL
Snani^i
toQol.
SnadoB, LorJ, Wciksinficr} Lord of the
Tremfuiy ' 1600 /.
TalbM, Hoo^ohn, BkgoA
TboAplbn, Xdwaid, York, Comauffiooir
of the Rcrcnuct in IreUnd looo /
Tbomplon, WilUun, ScarbonuBfa, Com-
nuffioQCT for viAnalllq the Navy 1000/.
Towcn, Tho. WAllinffbid, TniAee for
Gcoipa
ToNnfikead, Hao. Thonut, Cuobridge V-
idmfity. Teller of the Exchequer >ooo/.
Tracey, Rofaeit, Ttfrktbrnij, TniAee for
Oeoi^
Trebjr, Geo. Dutmwth, Mafier of tbc
Hodeboti 1000 7.
Trefnfif, Tboma*t Gnunpowd, Captstia of a
Man of War 400 /.
Tmcbard, George, Pool
Tmor, J<Aa Morley, Lewia
Tackcr, John, WeynMutb, hit Fathci a
Ciut of the QDarrid in Portland
T»iKr, Sr John, Lynn, many of bis Re-
latioos in Place*
Tunter, Chohnky, York
Tuner, WiUian Horfmanden, Maldflone
_ Tyroooael, Lord Vi1g< Graotlutn, Trafte*
for CcMpa
Tyrral, JaniM, Bonvghbridgt, Maj. Gen.
Orf. ot a Regiment of Foot, and Go*, of
Tilbury Fort, Sfc. 1800 /.
Urquhart, Duncan, Forre&,&c. Lieut, ia the
Foot Gnaidi, hk Father Reccirer of the
Klhopa Renta tto I.
Vere, Thoaat, Nonrich
Wade, George, Bath, Geoeralof hit Majcf-
ty*> Forces ia Scotland, Col. of a Reg. of
Horft, and Got. of Fort William 4000 /.
Wa^, SirCharict, Wcftminfler, firftLocd
nt the Admiralty, and Adailral of the
White, Ve. 3€oo/.
Walker, Tho. PlynMon, SurTeyor-Gcaeral
of tbeCmmLanu, tff. 1500 A
5 )
WalUngford, Lord, Budniy, Major in tte
Horfe-Gnardt joo I.
Walpole, Sir Robert, Lynn, Chancellor and
Under 'neafnrer of the Ewhequer, Com-
mifliooer of the Trea&ry, Qfc. &c. 6fc
«... "^ 8ooo^
Walpole, Hor. Norwich, Amba£ador Ex *
traordinary, and Plenipo. to tho State*.
General, Coficrer to hii MajcAy, and Au-
ditor-Otneral to the PlanUdea, &c. S^c.
™. . . iiooo i.
Walpole, EdwaH, Yarmouth, Secrc^ t»
the Treafury of England, and Secreuiy t»
the Lord -Lieu tenant of Ireland 40CM A
Wardour, William, Fowey, hi* Brotbery
Lieut. Col. in the Horfe-Guatdt
^hire, John, Retford, Trufiee for Geecgik
^Phitworth, Francii, Mioehead, Sorreyor-
General of his Majefty'i Forefla toaoL
WJIliams, SirNicholst, Caennartbedbit^
Lieut, of the County of Caeiaanhen,
and Keeper of the Coun-Lecti tooi,
WUls, Sir Cha. Totneft, Col. ofthefirft
Regiment of Foot-Guards, and Lienb
Gen. of Foot and Ordnance 4000 JL
WUmer, WiUtam, Northampton
Wilkinfon, Andfcw. Aldborongb YorkA,
Woollafton, William, Ipfwisb, Tnifie« tm
Georpa
Wyndham, Tho. Pool
Wynn', Sir George, Flint, a Grant (tq« the
Crown of the Minei ia FlintSuie for %%
Yean
Wmn, Thomas, Caerurtoa, Oerk of tha
Board of Giecn Cloth looot
Yonge, Sir William , Hoidton, Secretary at
War 1500/,
Yorke, John, Richntood
Of the fwegoiog voted fiir the Eadle 141
Againft it j j
Ablent J
Chofe fincc xoz
Teller againft the Cohtintiok,
Sir John Rnfliout, Bart, Evcflum
A Bdy, Kr Robert, Eflex
'^ AOeek, Gilbert, Cambtidgs Town
AUlabic, WiUiam, RipfOB* Auditoe of the
Imptcft Sot life MOO /.
Andovcr, Loed Viftooat, Caftlcrifiag
Archer, WilUam.Bcfhi
Aftby, Tbonai, St Albaaa
AJUey, Solemon, Bridport, lock'd oat —"
aext Day voted apuoft it
AfUcy,KrM»i. Salop
Afton, Sir Tbofsai, St Albua
Mmm, Sir Edmund, Norl'oJk
»fn. Sit Walt. Wa|ftaff, Sufitfdftu*
Baltimore, Lord, St Germalnt, GenllenM
of the Bed-chamber to the Prince 600 /.
Bampfylde, John, DevooOrtie
Bancc. Joha, Weftbory, Director of tha
Bank
Banker, John, Corfe-caftle
Barnard, Sir John, Loadoa
B«rTymore, £arl, Wipn
Batluirit, Hoo. Benjamin, GtoaeeftcWUn
Bathurft, Hon, Henry, Citencefter
Bathurft, Benjamin, Glouccfter
Bathurft, Peter. NewSamm
Bayley, Nichalu, Aoflefta _ ..
r 6
Ihyfttiut, (R(itc]K<Aert-E<«. Chippenbam
tdrkeley, Hon. CcOru> Heydon, Mjftcr
' ef St, Sithuine'B Ht^ta), Luidon, for
Uf e 400 /.
Serkck]', Hoa, John, Stoclcbtidgc
^ckett} Walter, N'mvcaSIc
Bt^, Prtcr, htoaSatt
9otm, {hnidj Luttcrdiall
BomIc, Thoiiug, Mldtinrit
Bowel, Oeorgt, Ditrfnin
Bniinftan, Thomu, Eflex
'Brvwae, lobii, Dorchcftcr, King's Council
Browne, Kobrrt, Dorcheihr
BacJnroTth, Sr John, Weohlr
Butgoyne, Sir Roger, Bedfordinire
Buder, Dr. Edtnrd, Oxford Univcrlity
Ck&t, Charlet^ Hcrtfbtdihire 4
Oinpbdt^ Brig. Peter, ButefUre, Ueut.
CoVeroor of Pwtfinoitth 300/.
<^itteibeQ, Chirlesi Shire of Argyle, Captain
* of Toot 250 /.
t^mtbeU, WilHtm, ReiUreW, Sfc. Eqncrrv
to the Duke, and Comet of Horfe 340 '•
Caie*. Sit WlIBam, ComwaU
CneWi Thonw, Mlnehead
CumrvoDiMarqais of, Steyning, Gentlemin
of the Bedchamber to the Pnnce 600/.
'Ckrtmight, Thotnn, NorthamptDnlhirc
Chafin. George, Dorchcfter
Chambcrlivne, Geofce, Buckingham
CheAer, Tltoitiu, Glouccfkerfliire
Chetwynd, Ld- Vile. Rtaffiird
Chctw}-nd, William, Suffiird
Child, Sir Prtncis, K^ddlefex
Chicheftcr, Sir John, Barnftable
Cholmondley, Charles, Cbcfhlrc
Clifton, Sir Rob. Kt. of the Bath, Retford
Codringion, Jolin, Bath
Compton, Hon. George, Northampton
COrnbury, Ld. Vifc. Oxford Univurfitjr
Comewall, Velters, Herefordihirc
Coftcr, Thonua, Briftol
Cotes, Dr. Cliarlts, Tamwonh
Cotton, Sir Tohm Hyndc, Cambridge Town
Courtney, Sir William, Honiton
Courtney, Rellond, Trato
Critwley, John, Marlborough
Crewe, John, Chclhire
Cuningtuam, Alenndev, Rfnfrcwlhin:
Curzun, Sir Nathiniel, EJrrbyfhire
I>alrymple, Hon. Win- Shire of Wigtcua
Djvtrs, Sir Jcrtnyn, Suffolk
Dawkins, Jamet, Woodfiock
Detme, P.ter, LuncrDiali
During, Sir Edward, Kent
Devercux, Hon. Price, Montgomcr)'/hire
tJigby, Hon. Edward, Warwick/hire, Truf-
tce for Georgia
Drax, Henry, Warehtm
Vaacombrf Tbomai, B-ijifoik
)
Elliot, Richtnl. LeA«I[tiiel> Reedfer-Gc*
tieral to the Prince jgo t,
Ehofl, Sir Abraham, Briftol
£relkine, Hon. Tames, Clackmaniiu, Sc>
cretary to the Prince for ScOtt ASUts
Xvam, Hob. Geotje, Wefttury
Evelyn, John, Helfton, Gioon of tie Bed-
chamber to the P rioce 400 1,
Fagg, Sir Roberf, Stejnlng
f^fakerley, Nitholn, PrefhHi
Fcnwick, Robert, LancaAer, Attnnwy Get.
and Kins'i Seijeantb the Otttchf ofLU'
caller
Fenwick, Nkholii, Kewcaftle npon Tyse
Finch, Hon. William, Cockcnnovth
Finch, Hon. John. Hlghaffl-Fattti, Kiog'i
CoDndl
Fbich, Hon. TohRt MtUflone
Foley, EdwartI, Droitwich
Forbes, Sir Aiurar, AberdeealUre
Fortefcue, Hon. Tbcophilu*, fiainflibiB
Fox, George, Hlndon
Fumefe, Heniy, Morpeth
Fydall, Richard, BoAon
Gage, Lord Vifconnt, Ttwketbnrf
Gibbon, Edward, Petenfield
Gilmour, Sir Cfaartet, EdinburghAIie
Gore, Thomas, AgmondcAam
Cower, Hon- W. llevefon, StaffbrdAihc
Cower, Hon. Bap. LevefcHi, Ifcwcallle la-
dcr Line
Grey, Lord, Leicefterfliire
Greenville, Richard, Bnckinghim
Crofvenor, Sir Robert, Chefler
Guidott, William, Andover
Cjbbon, Phillipi, Rye
Humilion, Lord Arch. Queenboran^, C^'
ferer to the Prince, and Surreyor Gene-
ral of Coni«'aU fur the Prinee 1100 '.
Hamilton, Sr lames, LanerkAirt
Harlcy, Edward, Hercfbrdflurc
Harley, Robert, Lcominflor
Hat^ey, Mithael, Milborn.Port
Heathcote, Sir Wilfiam, Soathimp:' n,
Truflee fur Georpa
Heathcote, George, Southwark, Tiufiie
for Georgia
Herbert, James, Oxford City-
Hill. Sit Rowland, Utchfield
Holmes, Thomu, Newtowa
Hooper, Edward, ChriA Church
Homer, T. Strangewiys, Sofflerfet&iie
Houblon, Jacob, Cokfaefler
Hume, H. Alex. Campbell, Shin of Ber-
wick
Hungerford, Walter, Catne
Hyltin, John, Carlifle ,
Juifcrys, John, Breconihire
lawin, Tntnnii, Southwark
Sir WiDtain. LawKtfioA. Ctunbrr-
Uin ta (Ik IVinerfc JOO /-
ham, Si( F^muixl, NarthHnrtanAin ,
Advocatt
K»y, Sr John Lifter, Yarlc
Kjroilh'n, CuttKt, Salop
Knight, Thotnu, Cantrtbury
Lcchtoere, Etelvnd, Wnccilciftin
Ut, SirTboBW*, Bu-:!;*
Lgc, OnaatGeorte, BrJcktirj
Uflio, HonthimnTtyfvtt.iic. » Um-
t«juiK of QniMni. H»»'-Fav. jo/.
Lcviai, William, Nuttlnjlufnaire
Limtrick, torf Vtk. Wewiowi, Traftee
for Ccofpa
I>ifl«, MwarJ, H«r.pAire
Ltllcr, TlwniJi(, ClUhtioe
UckirmMl, RUh»rd, Worcrfter
Lnfit, Sir Hokcn, Wotton- Biir<t
t^ng. R'kIukI. Chtfpmhjm
LtttrtbM, Hon. Artli'^y. WrPnmitUnd
l.ynlcton. CcorgCf Ok«ti«iiinti>n, itrircurf
to the Prlnte Hit. i]i. 41^.
MukwDTth, HaWrt, Ciidifte
MuHrn, Lonl WiUuin, Newark
MiTl>Mlt( Htmry, Acmi-n^ftiam
Maflcr, I'homas, CirenKltcr
Kfartrr, Leigh, Kcwtoo
Muaowt, &i(lncy, TavlflMfe
Mitliurn, S:t Paul. Bricbt}'
Mokfworth, bit John, Nvwpmt
MoBMit, &ii Knniphr<7, StcMJcbTid|t«
MoaUfH. Edikini, HunPR^'lvri
Morisuni. Sir Dutki. Waiwkkftlire
JifctgiH'i Sir John, Hcrcluri
||aik«. -Sit Willun;, LiuiKcrton
•M^, S(rT)innut. FKnUlilte
MhmX' J'^^"' Sfllutklhirt
M]'Ulr^>n, y-htt, IXnK'fh
Nnlhun, RvlKn, UIJ Sipim
NeMlOR, fUrMkhael, Cruiitum
Hm- Jarv'- ><'■' . Miihice
. Wfn. Suii^ ^ CoBDcU
>rd, R-ibcrt, &i. Muhacti
)uiu)cn. Sir G«i '^■" '' 'ch
P4di(T, Witich'
^jcltitntoB, Sir H- . ■■- fc<ltcrlUii
^■rkr[, Armllctl, IVteriMrou^
ifco*. Hntit^itrrr, l^niioa
■ .'hotri
Mayor, tjtn^aa
\- '»uiD. Givon of the
'J ,_ . ■■■ Mm
( 7 )
r>«, Thomu, OililamrTnA, a Piv.M*.
Utr I'm tJir Cdjmjcof Tin ,oot.
Pliyiell, lifan. M^iun, DorfttlluK
Pc4«r*rtJ>, Lord, Bawkk
Poyhosi, Edwwd, Great Bc^wla
Pojtimn, Hr/iry WiUiaiB, Tiuntwi
Pow«l, Sir ChnUifhtr, Kent
ftnryt, Rtch«nl, Otfcud
Vrtad, Vim. Mjckwoirth, St. ttts
Price, Richin). Svdhuty
Pioby, Joko, SunUVvd
Pulteey. Williim. Mi4d}err«
RMnOcn, SirJ^ha, A|iQtt7
KAftltigh, loftMiuii, Fowcy
Rowiici, Ttiimii, <^rord
Rmhcrf.rrd. J.^. RoxburgbAib*
St. A«bin, Sir John, CnnwaJl
Samhtvuke, Sir Jermy, ttitoti
fciutyi, Samuel, Wc-inficr
SHnderTon. SirTfaonwa, LincoIiJUtt, Tm.
/urcr to the Pilnrc lUxJ.
Scawcn, Tht-nui, Suirey
St-jDKiur, Fr4i)i.ii, M»(]hnim{ti
Slufto, juhn, Duihicn
Shrfhraid, biimiel. Cunbruj{eli;ie
Shipppo, Wdllua, NrwtDa
SiuitllcWMih, RicharJ, LuK^t
SiUhaif, CMiioglbt, Lincoln
SliAtAji Sir Hrnr/, KmreOuitrajb
Sudth, EilwjtJ, LekrfVcrlhire
Swriinerfrf, Uml N\<1. Monni:-4i'Ji
Sjieoccr, H«n. ]ha, Vooi^j^k
Stjahop, Hon. Sir Wen. B'^lt*
Stuthaiiei Kon. John, Ocrfy
SUnH-ijK, Clarlei, Hvttlcll
Supktun, Sir Williim, OifatdOkuc
Siayletun, Sir Mtlct, Vtfrkihitt
Sirjihrftfon, fjimH. SuiSnity
Sliwart. A.innrjl CiwrL-i, Portfino«tt1i .
Vlec.Adninl of the Wt>:tc ^aoL
T*lb't, l.ihn I»w«y, Vr(](;Hii«
TjjIm, Wiiliim, Cvefluro
Tt^oAcnd. Hon. Ro|er. Creat YwniMth.
Cift. of Motfc 500 u
Trcfulia. RoUrt, Trxim
Virtr. Hun. lUaiy, St. Miwi
VjtiEtiin, WiUUni, MTMncthfiitTc
Vrrniwi, Sit Clutli'i, Ck!pf>en-Wi(1tco«ih
Vrriwn, Oro. Vrarabln, LltthlWU
Vvner, R^t.i:rT, LincolnAlrc
v/,il)ci, CimunJ, OraacMtrlmr
■W.ller, Hariy, ai[p^n-Wichr«Bb
Wairea, Btrrlace, NixtiiifiliBin
Whiimote, Thwiui, Bnd{ni)ith
W(l,7, Jjmea, Leicel>tt
Wdiimnir. Kob«n, Losdon
Wodebimlr, Annliic. Kotblfc
Wodkli Jum, NcWv*
(
'Wrigbtc, George, Letcefier
Wyndhan, Sr William > Sonerftdhin
Wyndham, Chiirlee, Bridgwiter
Wynne, Wstkin Willmini, DenbigUhlm
Y9tea, Tbomu, Cbichefter
8 }
Of tbefe were (or Uie Exd6
Agiinft It
Abfent at the ExcUe
ClufefiiKe
C
»»3
UaU S33
The Names of thofe who wen abfent.
ANftmtfier, Sir I<Aa» Shire of Fife, Ma-
iler of the King's Works in Scotland
400'.
AnftnithCT, Brig.- Philip, Prtten-Weem,
See- A Col. of a Regimeot of Foot and
licnC Got. of Minorca 3000 /.
ArfcoE, Aithnr, Tirerton
Aih, Edward, Heyteflniry, CommiJEoiKr of
Trade (aUest widi Charlet Pelham)
1000/.
Aaflen, ^ Robert, Romoey
Btnoett, Philip, Shaftlbury
Bowlei, WilUam, Bridport
Buckley^ Lord Vlfc. Bcaunurii
Banbury, Sir Charlet, CheAire
Campbell, Sir Jaaet, StirlingOure, Mnfter-
Maftcr Genera] la Scotland 800/.
CaTcndtA, Ld. Charlet, Derbyfhire, Bro-
ther to the Dake of DeVQnIliire
Cavendlft, Lord fame*. Derbyihire, Uncle ■
to the Duke ofDeroofhlre
Clarfte, Sir Thomas, Hertford
Cocki, Jamet, Ryegate
Cockbume, John, Heddingtonfhitc
Conyera, Edward, Eaft-Grinllead
Corbet, Sir Richard, Shrewftury
Crols, Sirjohn, Leftwithiel
Curson, William,- Clithcroe
Docminjque, Charlei, Gatton
Drake, Sir Franoi, Borealfton
Fane, Hon. Charles, Taviftock, (Abfent
with Mr. hfanfel) Envoy to the Court of
Florence 1800 A
Finch, Hon. Edward, Cambr. Univerfity^
Envoy and Plenipotentiary in Sweden
3300/.
Fitzroy, Lord Ai^flui, Tbetford, Cap-
tain of a Man of War 400 /•
Firtbrace, Sir CordeJl, Suffolk
Foley, Thomac, Hereford
Forefter, William, Wenlock
FoTcfter, Brook, Wenlock, his Son
Glanville, William, Hythe, Commiffloner
of the Revenue in Irelaad. Lock'd out
1 000/.
Gore, William, Cricldade
Haddock, Nifliolat, Rocheder, Admiral
and Commander of a fleet 2000/,
Hamilton, Alexander, Liniithgowlhire
Herbert Richard, Ludlow
Hoare, Heury, New Sarum
Tolliff; SlrWilllan, Petef^wU
Lowther, Sir Hunts, Laaeafar
Lowther, Sir Janet* Cnmbeilnd
Lualcr, Hon. John, Ajwiddl, Cnom of
th« Bed-chamber to Che PtlDcc, aad CoL
in the Guards 900/.
Manfel, Hon. BoHy, Clunctpo&ire, Ab-
fent with Mr. Fane)
Montagu, Charlet, ». OcnnuH, Aadittr
CO the Prince and County of Cornwall
500/.
More, Robert, Bidiop't-Ceftle
Neal, John, Corentrjr, his Vfik Dic6cr
to the late Queen joe L
Nortbcote, SirHenrf, Ewter
Oglethorpe, Jamn, Haflenmr* Geaetal
and Commander of hit Mnefty'i Fotcis
inCco^, and Colonel of aRe^aicat
tsoo/.
Onflow, Hon. Richard, GniUferd, Son lo
the Lord Onflow Teller of the Eicbe^oer
Pelham, Chariei, Beverlty, Abfent with
Edw. Afli
pelham, Thomat Lewit, Comniffiooer ef
Trade 1000 i-
Prrrott, Henry, Oibidfliire
Philip*, Sir Erafmui, HaTctfordweS
Plumber, William, Hertfirdlhire
Plumber, Walter, Apulby
Puttengcr, Richard, Reading, Welch Judge
500/.
Rol'e, Henry, Devon
Spekc, George, WelU
Stuart, Col. Jamei, Air, &c. a Col. in
the Foot-Guards, Cent. UJber aad Dat^
Waiter, tec. i^ol,
Sutton, Sir Robert, Grtmfby
Tower, Chriftopher, Aylelbury, iWtee for
Georgia
Tucldield, Roger, Alhibnrtoo
Watts, Thomas, St. Michael
Wentworth, Sir Wm. Maltoo, hit Brother
a Col. oft Repirwnt of Foot
Wilfon, Daniel, Wefhnoreland
The Pro't with Chairm. and Teller »$%
TheCoBtrt'f, vhtfaTell. 1 nuf-told S34.
Thofe that were ah(cnt 6»
In an S5S
Number of Efflplojrmenta 334
Annual Value — . - ^2956/. ij'.4^'
A LIST
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A tiST of the Members who voted For the Place-Bill,
Januarf 29, 1739-4O. .
MR. Sandn \ Yen
Mr. Hwlcy 5 K>6.
Cbsntyjif Bedford.
Sit Rogn- Buigoyne
Toww « Bcdfbra>
Sir Jer, -VanJii Sambiooke
Samad Ot^fef
lerki.
iffinchotnb* PkIut
Peajrfton Powiey
Reading.
Backt.
Sr Tbonuu Lee
Bdckbigham.
Sichud Orcenvllle
Chippii^ Wicomb.
Sr CSurld Vcrnoa
llfany WtUer
Henry MirOftl
Tbomas Gore
Great Marknr.
Sdmnod Waller
Town of Cambridge,
Sir John Hynd Cottoa
Giftert Affleck
County of Cfaeftcr.
Charlea Cholmondtlcy
City of Chefter.
Kr Robert Orofvcftor
Sir Cfaarlo Bnnbary
Cotnwdl.
Sir William Carew
Sir J«hn St. Au^
LtunceftOn.
Sir William Morrice
Sir William Irby, Chamber-
lain to the Princeii
Lefluud.
Richard Eliot, Recetver-
Cenenl to the Prince
Tmro.
Robert Trefufd
Fowey.
Jonathan RjlUci|li
St. Mchael.
Thnmai Watts
Robert Ord
Newport.
Sir John Mokfworth
St. Miw9.
lion. Henry Vane
GtyofCMlMc.
JofaHyltM
Telleii for the BitL.
Cockennouth.
Hon. William Finch'
County of Derby.
Lord Charlei Cavendilb
Town of Deiby.
Lord Jamet CavendiA
Hon, John Stanhope
Esetcr.
Sir Henry Northcots
Oakhampton.
Thomas Pitt
George L.ttletan
B^mftaple.
Theophilui Fortcfcne
Honiton,
Sir William Courteney
Tariftock.
Hon. Charlet Fane
Sidney Meadowi
Dorfetfliire.
George Cbafin
Dorchefter.
John Browne
Bridporti
William Bowea
Warehun*
Henry Drax
John Pitt
Darham.
John HedgWDTth
City of Durham.
John Shafto
Eflcx.
Sir Robert Abdy
Thomai Btamfton
Colcbefter.
Jacob Honblon
County of Gloucefter.
Hon. Ben. Batborft
Thomas Chefler
CityofGloucefter.
Benjamin Bathurft
Cuenceiler.
TbomatMafter
Hon. Henry Bathnrft
Tewklbuty.
Lord Vifcount Gage
County of Hcrefurd.
Edward Harley
Vclten Comewall
City of Hereford.
Sir John Morgan
Thomas Foley
Leominfttr.
Robert Hirley
^eobley.
Sir John Buckwotth
County of Hertford*
Charlet Cslar
St. AlbuH.
Thomai AJhby
Borou^ of Huntingdon!
Edward Montagu
Kent.
Sir Edward Oering
Sir Chriflopher Powell
Caotcrbttry.
Thomai Kjughc
Qjicenborougb.
Lord Archibald Hamilton,
Cofferer to the Priace, and
Surveyor General of Cmi-
wall. .
County of Laocafier.
Peter Bold
BoHmgh of Lancillert
Robert Fenwicle
Prefton.
Nicbolas Paaakerley
Newtoo.
WUIiiia Shippen
Wygan.
Earl of Btrrymofe
Clitbenw.
Thomas lifter
County of L«iceflef.
Lord Guemfey
Edward Smith
Boroufh of Leicefier;
George Wright
Jamet Wiglay
County of Liacohi>
Robert Vyner .
City of I^ncobia
Conir^ Sibtborp
Bofton.
Richard FydeU
StaniKird*
WiUiam Noel
John Proby
Grantham.
Lord Vifcoimt Tyrcoaoel
Sir MiducI Newton
Middlefcz.
William Pulteney
City of London*
Sir John Banard
Humphrey Parfunl
Micajah Pe-ry
Robeh WUlimac
B £0x^118^
Bcrouefa of Monmouth.
Lont U^Iet Noel Sofflcrict
Norfolk.
Sir Edtound Bacon
Anninc Woodhoufe
Grnt Yumouth.
Roger Townlhrad
Cftftlerififlf.
Loid'Andover
County of NortluD^nm.
SirEdnmad I&am
Tbonuu Cutwrigfat
PeterborouKh.
Xaward Wonky
Town of Nonhunpton.
Moo. George ComptDo
BncUey.
George Loe, DoOar of Lm
Nortbninbcrian^.
Sir WiUiam Mlddleton
Kewnftle upon Tjwt.
tJkliolu Fenwick
Walter BUckett
Hoipeth.
HeayFnnwfB
Berwick*
LoT^ Vifcowit Pohrarth
Covntr of Notdnghtau
Williun Levins
TMtn of Nonin^uiDi
Borlace Wurcn
EaBReafbrd
Ur Robert Clifton
Newark upon Trent.
Lord WUUam Mannera,
County of Oxford.
Sir hmn Daihwood
Univerfity of Oxford.
Lord Vifcount Combury
£d«ard Butler, Dr. of Liws
Cirr of Oxford,
Thomu Rowney
Jamc* Herbert
Woodftcck.
Jamei Dnrkini
Rutland.
Hon- JiTtttt Noel
Thonus Noel
^ Salop.
Sir John Aftlsy
Corbet Kynafcon
BrfhopfcaiUc.
Ii!d^nrd Kynaltoa
County of Somerfet.
Sir William Wyndham
Briftol.
Sir Abraham Elton
Edward Siuthwdl
Minchead.
Thcnuj Carcw
( to )
Milboura I'ort,
Aficbac) Hkrvey
Town of Soutlnmptoa.
SirWUiiun HnthcoCe
Fetcnfield.
Edward Gibboa
StDckbridge.
Hon. John Berkeley
SirHoinphRy Moaoux
Newtoa.
JuneiWorfley
Cluiit-cbucchf
£dwird Hoc^er
County of Stafford. *
Sir Walter Bafol
Hon. Wm. Levenno Cower
Lichaeld.
Sr Rowland HiU
George Venablet Vemoa
Suffbidt
Lord Vifcount Chetwynd
William Cl^etwynd
Newcaftle under line.
Hon. Baptiit Lcrefoa Cower
Tarn worth-
Cbarla CoUci, DoOor of
Phyfick
County of Soflblk.
Sir German Davcti
Otford.
Richard Powya
Sudbory.
Richard Price
Edward Stephenfon
Surry.
Thomas Scawen
South wark.
Thomas Inwen
George Heathcote
Rycgate.
James Coclu
Gatton-
Geo, Nc\vl»nd, Dr. of Lawi .
Chiehefter.
Thomas Yatcs
Midhutft.
Sir John Peachcy
Thoinas Bootle
Steyning.
Lord Marquis of OcmarvOQ
Sir Robert Fa£g
Eaft-Grinftead.
Edward Conyers
Anindcl.
Carton Orme
Warwick (hire.
Hon. Edwrd Digby
Sir Charles Mordaunt
CovcQtr)',
JchaNc»l« ,
Town of Wanrkk*
Tikomu Archer
Henry Archer
Apulby.
Walter Plumer
Wofceftcrilure.
Sir Herbert Packil^too
Ednnnd Lochmere
C^ty of WoroeflCf.
Samuel Sandyt
ILkbkd Lockwood
Droitiddt.
Edwud Foley
ETeflanb
Sir John RufiKWt
WiQiam Taylor
Wiltftiic.
John Ivory Talbot
New Seraou
Peter BaChurft
Hindoo.
Ceoife Fox
WcflMry*
JohnBann
Chippcnhan*
Edward Bayatoo Rolt
Crkklade.
WllBam Gor«
Bedwin.
Edward Popluun
LuggerlhalL
Peter Delme
Duiid Boone
Old Saram*
WlUliuaPitt
Wwtoo Ba&t-
Sr Robert Long
Uarlborough.
Francb Seymour
John Crawley
CoQOty of Yorib
Sir Miles Snpylton
City of York.
Sir John Lyfter Kay«
KnareflK>rou|lu
Sit Henry Sllnglby
Rippon.
Thomas DoDcombe
Richmond,
John Yorke
Beverly.
ChaHa Pclhim
Northallertoa.
Heniy Peirfc
Sandwich.
Sir George Oxeadoa
Rye.
FbiUips Cf bboa
WjtLES,
JTALKS,
Brecoa.
Sir W»t. WiUtwni Wynne
^ TownofDcnUih.
J^uMyiUleua
ThonuiMoftjrn
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GUmortinfitirf,
Hon. Bufly MuiTel
Mnioneth.
WUlbm Vaughai)
MtrntfomeryQuit,
Hod. Price Dnercux
SCOTLAUD,
Sir Arthur Forbes
Kon< Hume-Campbell
Hon. jatnn EHkin
Sfa- Charin Giknour
Hon. Thomai Leflie
Sr Jimn Hamilton
Alennder Cuiudngham
John Murray
Hon. mUiam DilrTmpIc
A LIST of tbe Meaben who roted againft the Place-Bill,
Jmmatyzi), 1739-40.
TiLitas apinft the Bict.
wR. Wtuunctoaf Noct
,Spckc 5 M«
Cotmtr of Bedlbrd.
Sir Jtowknd Alfton
New WiodJbr.
Lord Kdner Bauckrk, Vkc-Cbunbtrlaia
to his MajeflT
WaUingford.
- Witlaiti Hucka, the Kint'i Brewer
Abiagdon.
Robert HMka. Son toditn
AykAwy.
Sir OMrgi Champion
W<BdoTCr>
John Haamden, Chcimiflaty «f ^U Storei
at Oibraltar
Great ftlsrlow.
S^r Thema Hobjr
f amlyiJfffffiifTi
Sainnd Shephcvd
Henry Brenky, UcMcunt of the Gonnty
Unimfirf of CioMdge.
HonoanUe Edward FioA
Leikard.
George Dcruua, Conptioller of the Lot*
cerici
LefiwitUeL
BJchani fidsrambe, Joiat Tcfsfuier of
Ireland
Bodntyn,
lohnLaiDclK
Sikalh.
Lord Glenorchy
Thomaa Cerbett, Undcr-Secretaiy W the
Adminl^
C^mcUbrd.
CoL CholoMndcleyf Ueut. Oovemor of
CheAerCafik, and Uentcnaot Coloael of
Horie-Gairdi.
Sir Thoaaa Lyttletea, Lord of tlw Adai-
Weftlow.
JohaScruie, StUkitot Geaenl
GrampBuid.
Thomas Hales, Clerk of the Board of
Orcen-Cloth
Thomu Trcfiifii. Ciptitn of a Man of
War
Eaftlow.
Cha. LflnpwTille, Andltor to the late QneeOf
beiidet hji other Employ nicDti
Sameel Holden, Direaor of the Bank
Pearyn.
Sir Richard MiU
John ClaTering, Groom of the Bedcham'
her » Ui kbjefly
Ticgou/.
Henty rentes
Jofeph CnlAon, VHttOat of the Soatfa Scft'
&«npa^r
Lord Vi&onnt PalmetftoA, (%fef Remem-
brancer in the Conrt of Excbe^ver \A
Ireland
Hon. Peregrine Po^lett, Biother to a Lor^
of ht> Majafty'a Becbmiber
Sc Irei,
Sh' Robert Rich, Groom of the Bedchamber,
and Colanel i^ a Re^ment of Dragoonc
Fow«y,
Wilfiam Wardoar, hit Brother, lieuteoant-
Cokoel in the Horfc Guaida
St. Mawi,
Riduid Plnmer, Comndffioner of Tradf
KellingCon.
Thomat Copbfton, Oerkof thcQuit-Rentl
and Forfeiture-Office in Irdand
Ilaac Leheup, Brother-ln-bw u Mr, Ho-
race Walpole, liii Brothers and Rebtteaa
provided me
Cnmherland.
SirJorephPenidngtoo, hii Son, byhiiSur*
reader. Comptroller of the Exdfe-Cafh
City of Cirlifle.
Hm* Chailei Hvwftrd, Colonel of a Reti-
*% wmt
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axatt of Peot, and Depatj Connm of
Carlifle CkCUc
Enter.
Thomu Balls
Totneb.
Sir CIutIci Wilis, Colonel of the ftrft Re-
^ giment of Foot Gnarii, uid LieutCOanC-
G«aenl-of Foot tnd Oidnance .
Jo&pb Duiven
Plymouth.
Captain Johx Vanbnigt
Arthur Stett, CMtuniilaTV for lettlins tjlje
|Merchanti Lofles by the Spauardi, evfer
fince- the Year 1718
Piympton.
Tbo, Clutterbuck, Lord of the ^dnufilty
Thomas Walker, Surveyor benei^ of the
Crown Land*
Honiten.
Sir William Yonge, Secretarytt Wa«
.AJbbnrtoa. . .
Thomas Bladen
Clifcon-Darttnouth.
CcaiBc Treby, Maftrr of the Honlhold ;
fince niadc one of the Coawiifewett of the
Treafury
Walter Carey, Cleric of the Gieea-Clotb,
and of the Council
Bejcalfion-
John BrAow, Deputy OommpDr. of the
South Sea Compaay
Tiverton.
Arthur Arftott
Dudley Rider, Attorney- General
Pool.
George Trenchard
Thomas Wyndham
Lyme Re^i.
John Srrope, Secretary tothe Treafury
Henry Holt Hcnly, Clerk of the Pip« .
Weymouth. ,
Ccorge Doddington, of Hoi£n{:ton
Thomas Pearfe, Commtflioncr of the Nary
John Tucker, a Grant to his Father of the
Portland Quarrie*
John Olmius
ShaftJbury
Stephen Fo«, Joint Secretary of the Trea-
lury
City of Durban],
H;:iiry Lanibton
Maiden
Mirtin Bladen, CommiJlioner of Trade
Bjnjaniin K-enc, late Envoy hi Spain
City of Glouccfter.
J.';]!i St-l'.vyn, late Receiver Gcheralof the
Cuft->:ii5, rurrcndcrid to his Brother, and
Ttafurcr to ilie late Queen
Lerminfter.
Sir George Cjfwflll
Weobiey.
•ci CornwaJ!, Cjpt. of a Man of Waf
)
Borough of Hertfof
Sh- Thomas Clarke
Nathaniel BrafTey
County of Hnatliqdoiu
Chatlet Clarke
. Borough ot Hantlagdon.
Brigadier Roger Handafyd, Qoi. of a Reg.
of Foot, and Governor of Fort PhiKp.
Cantcrburyr
Sir Thomas Hales, his Son,' Clerk of th*
Board of Green-Cloth
- RodieAcr.
Kvid R^ni, Keeper of the Rccdrdi ta
the- Tower
MaidlVone.
Captain Robert Fair&x
Wm. Horfemonden Turner
Piefton.^
Sir Henry Hougbton^ Judgt Adrocate
Wnan.
Sir Roger Bkvdlhai^
-Unttfod.
Thomas Vretetpn, .Coauniflioaer of itp
ViftualUng
Richard Gildart, kit cUeft Son RcclIvci
Gcnenl of the Land- Tat for the Covbi;
of Lancallcr
Ci^ of LJncolnt
Charlet Monron,.|)«putjp PaymaHer of the
Anny
Crat Grifnfiiy.
Robert Knight, Sea la the hte Cifluei of
the South Sea Company
Weftmlnfttr.
Lord Sundtm, Commiirioner of the Trq-
fury
Sir Charles Wager, Firft CommiUfoncr cf
the Admiralty, and Admiral of the Whke
Monmcnith-
Char. Hanbury Williams, PaynuAcr of tkc
Marines
Norwicb.
Horatio Walpole, AmbalTidor Extraordinarv,
and Mitiifler Plenipotentiary tu the Sitci
General, Cofferer to hii Majeftv, and
Auditor Ceu, to the Plancadont, Actct-
Thomas Verc
Lynx RcEJs.
Sir Robert WaipoJe, Chancellor of and Un-
der-Trca fur cr of the Eachequer, CoW-
mJflioner of the Treafury, tec, ice. &c.
Sir Chi. Turner, Commiirwoee
Great Yarmouth.
Edward Walpole, Secretary to the TVafury
in England, and Secretary to the Lord
Lieutenant of Ireland
Thetfotd.
Lord Auguflus Fitarov, Captain of aMan of
War
Cliarles Firiroy, MuRer of the Tem^b-conrt,
and Cornet of Horfe
Ciftk7ifio£.
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CirilktiGnK.
MaJCT Ceiwral Churchill, G«io« of the
Bed-chamber, Celoiwl of > a«piwmt of
Dragtwiu, and Oownior of Plymouth
NoTthnmbcrlaad.
Rilph TennUbn, Maftei of thcBuck-hcnndi
Morpth.
Sir Henry IJddeU
County of NottiilBhm.
Hon. John Mordjunt ...
Town, of Nrttinghiui
John Pbintres, Tmfurer to the OtimatK
Newark upon Trent.
Thnmai Pelham, Sacrettry W the Lord
Chamberlain
Buibnry.
I^rd Vifcount Wallingfvd, Major In the
Horfe Guards
•if.:jA iTown of Sfarcwlborf.
Sir Rich:ird Corbett
WiWmiXuiafton, Maflet in Cfiancory, Ttia
brother Sollicitot of the Cuftont
Ludlow.
Henry Arthur HerbcR, Lkutcnuit of-the
Cuunty of Salop.
Wenlock.
William Forrefler, fcnior
WUliiro Forreftw, jwitor
Bath.
Liratennnt Gmeml Wide, General of his
Majcfty'i Forecc in Scodind, Col. of a
Regiment of Horfe, and Go«caiar of
Furt-William .
Wells.
WilUam Pim* hit Son in the Antf ..
George Spelce.
Tannton.
Francis Fane, King'i Conncilf nd Co^ttil
to the Board of Trade
Bridgewater.
George DoddliiEton, Lord of the TreaTuTy
Mine head.
Francis Whitwordi, Surveyor-CencTalofhis
Majefty'i Forefts
Ivelchefter.
Sir Robert Bk^nm
Charles Lockyer
Milhoum Port.
Thomas' Medlycoit
Cavnty of SonthampMn.
Lord Harry Powlett, Lord of the Admlfilty
Winthefter.
George Bridget
Town of Southanpton.
Thoniu Lee Dummer, a Place in the
Wardrobe
PortfiBOBth.
Admiral StcWart
Yarmouth,
Tl^WUS ClWoo, CafiuirCothcPay-Office
3 )
Vewpott.
Lord Boyne, Com million er of tlieRrvenna
in Ireland
George Huxley, Commiflary of thr Mufltn
Cbrift<Church.
. |oleph Hinxman,.W«odwanl and Keeper of
New Foreft
Ljrmington.
Maurice Bocland, Capt. of cheFoot Cuarie
Whitchurch.
.Ool. )bhn Mordamtf, Ei]uerryto thl- Kln^
John Selwin, junior, Trealurcr to thi^ Duke
and Princclies, ami the Rcverfiun of cAre
Places in the Weil Indies
.MewcaSle under Une.
JtAia Lawton
Tamwurth.
Ld, John SackvlUc, C~.p. of a Com. of FocC
Ipfwich.
Samuel Kent, Diftiller to the Court
Orfbrti.
Brigadier General John Cope
Aldboroagb.
OwT^ Purvis, CornptrolltT of the Unf
Eye.
HoR.Stephm ComwaUit, Colontl of a Ks-
gtment of Font
Hon. John Cornwallis •
St.. Edmund ftury.
Hon. Tho, Mcrvey, Surveyor of his Maj^*"
ty's Gardens arri Waterworks
Guilford.
Hon. Richard Onfliw, Sun tu Lord OnOow,
Teller of the Eiche«)u(:r ,
' Colonel Richard Onflow, Adjutant -Cencijl
Blcch.ngley.
Kqndrick Clayton
Rycgate.
John Harvey
. Kafiemere.
Peter Buirell* Sub-Govcmour of tlie Soadi-
Sea Company '
SulTex.
Rt. Hon. Henry Pelham, Paymafler of the
Army
James Butler
Chlchefter.
Hon. James Brudenell, CommifTioner of
Trade, Groom of the Bed-chamber, and
Gentleman of the Hnrfc to his Majelljr
HorHiam.
Charles Evenfield
Colonel Charles ii^tam
Lewc*.
John Morley Treror
Shoreham.
Thomas Frederick
' John Pbilipfon, CommiBkmerof the Nary
Brambcr.
Sil Hixry Cough
Hanj
(
RirT7 Cotmhy I>'re£for of the Eaft-IoA
Company
Eall Orinftead.
Zul of XCddkrex, Son t» the U Stewwd
Arundel.
Sir John Sbelly, hii Brocber ■ ComndffiDaer
of Ae Sumpt
' Coventry.
Lord XuAoD, Son to the Lorl CIuBdierlain
Dnntwich.
Tbo. 'WimlBgtui, ComaiU'. of the TireaToij
Bewdley.
Bngidier Bowlet
Wilton.
Hoo. Robert Herbert, Commif. of TraiJe ,
Hon. William HerbcR, Colwel in the Ftfot
Guard*
Downtoo.
lo&f h Wyndhun Afhe
r Hindoo.
Henry Faz» ~SinTeyor of hii Majaf, Woilu
Hcytesbuiy.
Edmrd Afbe, Commiffioner of Tnde
nut* AcouTt, two Brothen in the Guaida
Cilne.
VnniMH Duckett, lieutetit&tOolaaet in the
Horie Gnardt
Wtlter Hiin8eTfi>rd
DetiKt.
fir Joftph Eyln, Brother to the Poft-nuT-
ter General, andRemitter f<^ the Crown
nuKil £yln,CofninilIary for theVidvallii^
Malmesbury.
Giles Earle, Commiffionerof the Treafary
WiUiam Kawlinfon Earle, Cleric of Delite-
[iet in the Ordnance Office
Cricklade.
SirThomaiRMd^ Ckrlc of the Board of
GTeen-c)oth
Bedwin.
WIBiami Sloper, Deputy Coficrer
City of Yotk.
Idvnird Thompfon, Commiifioner of the
Revenue in Ireland
Kingfton uponHuIL
GcofEC Crtwlc, CDmmiinoni.T of the Navy
Henry Maifter
KnircfborouE^i
Rich. Arundcll, M a HcT' worker of the Mint
Scarborough.
Will.Thompfon, CommJf. of the ViaualUng
William OAuideftoti
Richmond.
Sir Conyen Darcy, Compt. of the Hoolliold
Boroughbridgc.
Major Geo. Tyrrel, Gov. of Tilbury Fort
Ceo. GregDry,Store-keeperof theOrdnance
Mai ton.
Hon, Hen. Finch, Receiver Ceneial of the
Revenues in Minorca
Thit/kc.
SiiTbo.FranUandfCoininif. of thcAdmitalty
AmImu'ouiIu
John Jewkt^
Aainm WiikiaKm
Be*crleT>
Elletker Btadduw
Northalleitoii.
Leonard Sracit, O^tk of the Ordmnte
Pontefraft.
Lord Vifcooat Galmy, CoaauffiMMraf At
Revenue la Ireland
' HalHngi.
Thoatu PfelhMB, Son to tba riiir^nii
of Trade
Dover.
Daifd PUpllon
Thooui Revell, Cbmniffioner «f tk
ViaaaUing, and Cootnasr ftr C^nk*
Sai^wiclr.
Jofiah Bnrcbctt, Secretarr of te Adsnltr
Hercnlei Balcer, Treafuier «f QntMrich
Hof{dtal
WiUiam Glanville, Cmniniffieiier of the
Revenue in irelasd
Rnmney.
Stephen Bifle.Comnuffiooer oftheViaaalE^
Rye.
Sir John Noirii, Vice-Ada^tal of Ii^
land, and Adnird of tba Red
Wincbd&a.
Bdround Hongate Boghta
Robert BriAow
Seaford.
Sir WiHiam Gage
Will. Hay« Commilfioner oftbe ViattSM.
fr\a L E s.
Town of Brecon.
John Talbot, a Wekh Judge
Cardigan.
Walter Lloyd, Attoraey-Gowral ia Wala
Town of CaiQigan.
Richard Lloyd
Town of Caennaitkem.
Arthur Bevan
Town of Caemarvoo.
Thomas Wynne, Clerk of de Board tt
Craea Cleth
Town of Flint.
Sir George Wynne, ■ Grjnt fifltt the Owt
of the Mines in Flintfhire ftr }* Yeut
Town of MontgoflacrT
William Corbctt
Pembrokcfliire.
John Campbell, Commif. of the Adminl^
Pembroke.
William Owen
Town of Radnor
Themss Lewis, a Place la the CoAmp kU
by his Brother
S C 0 TLA NB.
Junet Abercrombie > Captaia of Fc^*
id
I
Riag*! Pilnicr !n Sradand, and Dt-
pMty Governor of Stirling Ciftle
WiUuni Sluitt, FftTHMfter vt F^reifn !*«)•
rtxu,ia(l prinrip^ Kiss'i Rcmcmbnoccr
in ScotlinJ
ChulriArdUnc, Lend Advocice oTScotluul
Patrick Ltnld^T
Ateundcf Brodie, Lfoa Klag at Aniii
I>4ncui,tJ[>^u>urt,LKut. iDlfceFdct Ciuttl*
Pctct Halktt, CjpUin offoirt
WiJiun Maule
John DniBunoad, C^fniniJIiiy £» (cullng
the Tnda k tbc NcthcrUnJi
John Miwte
Sir Janact Cnnt, a Cram ftf Dntici hi
lulin Falounci
P«tkk Haon, hli Son a Comp. b CectjfM
&T Robert Lauri«
Han. Janm CaimkiAcI, Brotker to Uk
Ear) of Kynd^N^, a Lord of the Police,
aai Cwuulfioncr to tbe Ccacfil Ailcn-
blf inScodaad
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