JOURNALS
OF THE
LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY.
VOL. X.
JOURNALS
OF THE
LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY
OF THE
PROVINCE OB" ONTARIO,
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FROM JAN. SRD, 1877, TO MARCH 2ND, 1877.
(BOTH DAYS INCLUSIVE.)
IN THE FORTIETH YEAE OF THE REIGN OF OUR SOVEREIGN LADY
QUEEN VICTORIA.
BEING THE SECOND SESSION OF THE THIRD PARLIAMENT OF ONTARIO.
SESSION 1877.
PRINTED BY ORDER OF THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY.
VOL. X.
TORONTO :
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P ROCLAMATIONS.
Canada. \
Province of V D. A. MACDONALD. [L.S.]
Ontario. j
VICTORIA, By the Grace of GOD, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, QUEEN,
Defender of the Faith, <&c., &c., &c.
To Our Faithful the Members elected to serve in the Legislative Assembly of our Province
of Ontario, and summoned and called to a meeting of the Legislature of Our said Pro-
vince, at Our City of Toronto, on TUESDAY, the TWENTY-FIRST day of the month of
MARCH, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, to have
been commenced and held, and to every of you — GREETING.
0. Mowat, ) YTtTHEREAS the meeting of the Legislature of the Province of
Attorney-General, j ? V Ontario stands prorogued to the TWENTY-FIRST day of the
month of MARCH, one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, at which time, at Our City
of Toronto, you were held and constrained to appear ; Now KNOW YE, that for divers causes
and considerations, and taking into consideration the ease and convenience of Our loving
subjects,- We have thought fit, by and with the advice of Our Executive Council of the
Province of Ontario, to relieve you and each of you of your attendance at the time afore-
said, hereby convoking, and by these presents enjoining you, and each of you, that on
SATURDAY, the TWENTY-NINTH day of the month of APRIL next, you meet Us, in Our
Legislature of the said Province, at Our City of Toronto, and therein to do as may seem
necessary — HEREIN FAIL NOT.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent,
and the Great Seal of Ontario to be hereunto affixed : WITNESS, Our
Right-Trusty and well-beloved D. A. MACDONALD, Lieutenant-Gover-
nor of our Province of Ontario, at Our Government House, in Our City
of Toronto, in Our said Province, this EIGHTEENTH day of MARCH, in
the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, and
in the thirty-ninth year of Our reign.
By Command,
S. J. VANKOUGHNET,
Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, Ontario.
Canada. }
Pmvinr.fi of I D. A. MACDONALD. [L.S.]
Ontario. j
VICTORIA, ly the Grace of GOD, of the United Kingdom of Great I>rif<tiH and Ireland, QUEEN,
Defender of the Faith, &c., &c., &c.
To Our Faithful the Members elected to serve in the Legislative Assembly of Our Province
of Ontario, and summoned and called to a meeting of the Legislature of Our said
Province, at Our City of Toronto, on SATURDAY, the TWENTY-NINTH day of the month
of APRIL, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, to
have been commenced and held, and to every of you — GREETING :
vi PROCLAMATIONS.
O.Mowat, ) AT7HEREAS the meeting of the Legislature of the Province of
Attorney-General, j '• Ontario stands prorogued to the TWENTY-NINTH day of the
month of APRIL, one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, at which time, at Our City
of Toronto, you were held and constrained to appear; Now KNOW YE, that for divers
causes and considerations, and taking into consideration the ease and convenience of Our
loving subjects, We have thought fit, by and with the advice of Our Executive Council of
the Province of Ontario, to relieve you, and each of you, of your attendance at the time
aforesaid, hereby convoking, and by these presents enjoining you and each of you, that on
WEDNESDAY, the SETENTH day of the month of JUNE next, you meet Us, in Our Legis-
lature of the said Province, at Our City of Toronto, and therein to do as may seem neces-
sary— HEREIN FAIL NOT.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent,
and the Great Seal of Ontario to be hereunto affixed : WITNESS, Our
Right-Trusty and well-beloved D. A. MACDONALD, Lieutenant-Gover-
nor of Our Province of Ontario, at Our Government House, in Our City
of Toronto, in our said Province, this TWENTY-NINTH day of APRIL, in
the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, and
in the thirty-ninth year of Our Eeign.
By command,
S. J. VANKOTTGHNET,
Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, Ontario.
Province of V D. A. MACDONALD. [L.S.]
Ontario. )
VICTORIA, by the Grace of GOD, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, QUEEN,
Defender of the Faith, &c., &c., &c.
To Our Faithful the Members elected to serve in the Legislative Assembly of our Province
of Ontario, and summoned and called to a meeting of frhe Legislative of Our said
Province, at Our City of Toronto, on WEDNESDAY, the SEVENTH day of the month of
JUNE, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, to have
been commenced and held, and to every of you — GREETING :
0. Mowat, } TTTHEREAS the meeting of the Legislature of the Province of
Attorney-General. J 1 1 Ontario, stands prorogued to the SEVENTH day of the month of
JUNE, one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, at which time, at Our City of Toronto,
you were held and constrained to appear : Now KNOW YE, that for divers causes and con-
siderations, and taking into consideration the ease and convenience of Our loving subjects,
We have thought fit, by and with the advice of Our Executive Council of the Province of
Ontario, to relieve you, and each of you, of your attendance at the time aforesaid, hereby
convoking, and by these presents, enjoining you, and each of you, that on SATURDAY, the
FIFTEENTH day of the month of JULY next, you meet Us, in Our Legislature of the said
Province, at Our City of Toronto, and therein to do as may seem necessary — HEREIN FAIL
NOT.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent,
and the Great Seal of Ontario to be hereunto affixed : WITNESS, Our
Right-.-Trusty and well-beloved D. A. MACDONALD, Lieutenant-Go ver-
nor of Our Province of Ontario, at our Government House, in Our City
of Toronto, in our said Province, this THIRD day of JUNE, in the ye;ir
of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, and in the
fortieth year of Our Reign.
By Command,
S. J. VANKOUGHNET,
Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, Ontario.
PROCLAMATIONS. vii
Canada.
Province of J D. A. MAGDONALD. [L.S.]
Ontario. }
VICTORIA, by the Grace of GOD, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, QUEEN,
Defender of the Faith, &c., &c., &c.
To Our Faithful the Members elected to serve in the Legislative Assembly of Our Province
of Ontario, and summoned and called to a meeting of the Legislature of Our said
Province, at Our City of Toronto, on SATURDAY, the FIFTEENTH day of the month of
JULY, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy six, to have
been commenced and held, and to every of you — GREETING :
0. Mowat, ) 117 HEREAS the meeting of the Legislature of the Province of
Attorney-General, j VV Ontario stands prorogued to the FIFTEENTH day of the month
of JULY, one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, at which time, at Our City of
Toronto, you were held and constrained to appear : Now KNOW YE, that for divers causes
and considerations, and taking into consideration the ease and convenience of Our loving
subjects, We have thought fit, by and with the advice of Our Executive Council of the
Province of Ontario, to relieve you, and each of you, of your attendance at the time afore-
said, hereby convoking, and by these Presents enjoining you, and each of you, that on
THURSDAY, the TWENTY-FOURTH day of the month of AUGUST next, you meet Us, in Our
Legislature of the said Province, at Our City of Toronto, and therein to do as may seem
necessary — HEREIN PAIL NOT.
TN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent,
and the Great Seal of Ontario, to be hereunto aifixed : WITNESS, The
Honourable DONALD ALEXANDER MACDONALD, Lieutenant-Governor of
Our Province of Ontario, at Our Government House, in Our City of
Toronto, in our said Province, this FIFTEENTH day of JULY, in the
vear of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, and in
' *>e fortieth year of Our Reign.
By Command,
S. J. VANKOUGHNET,
Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, Ontario.
Province of D. A. MACDONALD. [L S.
Canada. J
rovince r *
Ontario.
VICTORIA, ly the Grace of GOD, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, QUEEN,
Defender of the Faith, &c., &c., &c.
To Our Faithful the Members elected to serve in the Legislative Assembly of Our Province
of Ontario, and summoned and called to a, meeting of the Legislature of Our said
Province, at Our City of Toronto, on THURSDAY, the TWENTY-FOURTH day of the
month of AUGUST, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-
six, to have been commenced and held, and to every of you — GREETING :
0. Mowat, ) 11, HEREAS the meeting of the Legislature of the Province of
Attorney-General, j VV Ontario, stands prorogued to the TWENTY-FOURTH day of the
month of AUGUST, one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, at which time, at Our
City of Toronto, you were held and constrained to appear: Now KNOW YE, that for divers
causes and considerations, and taking into consideration the ease and convenience of Our
loving subjects, We have thought fit, by and with the consent of Our Executive Council
of the Province of Ontario, to relieve you, and each of you, of your attendance at the time
aforesaid, hereby convoking, and by these presents enjoining you, and each of you, that
on TUESDAY, the THIRD day of the month of OCTOBER next, you meet Us, in Our Legis-
lature of the said Province, at Our City of Toronto, and therein to do as may seem neces-
sarv — HEREIN FAIL NOT.
viii PROCLAMATIONS.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent,
and the Great Seal of Ontario to be hereunto affixed : WITNESS, The
Honourable DONALD ALEXANDER MACDONALD, Lieutenant-Governor
of Our Province of Ontario, at Our Government House, in Our City of
Toronto, in Our said Province, this NINETEENTH day of AUGUST, in
the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, and
in the fortieth year of Our Reign.
By Command,
S. J. VANKOUGHNET,
Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, Ontario.
Canada. )
Province of V D. A. MACDONALD. [L.S.]
Ontario. }
VICTORIA, by the Grace of GOD, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, QUEEN,
Defender of the Faith, &c., &c., &c.
To Our Faithful the Members elected to serve in the Legislature Assembly of Our Province
of Ontario, and summoned and called to a meeting of the Legislature of Our said Pro-
vince, at Our City of Toronto, on TUESDAY, the THIRD day of the month of AUGUST,
in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, to have been
commenced and held, and to every of you — GREETING :
0. Mowat, ) W HEREAS the meeting of the Legislative of the Province of
Attorney-General. J »r Ontario stands prorogued to the THIRD day of the month of
OCTOBER, one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, at which time, at Our City of
Toronto, you were held and constrained to appear : Now KNOW YE, that for divers causes
and considerations, and taking into consideration the ease and convenience of Our loving
subjects, We have thought fit, by and with the consent of Our Executive Council of the
Province of Ontario, to relieve you, and each of you, of your attendance at the time afore-
said, hereby convoking, and by these presents enjoining you, and each of you, that on
SATURDAY, the ELEVENTH day of the month of NOVEMBER next, you jieet Us, in our
Legislature of the said Province, at Our City of Toronto, and therein to do as may seem
necessary — HEREIN FAIL NOT.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent,
and the Great Seal of Ontario to be hereunto affixed : WITNESS, The
Honourable DONALD ALEXANDER MACDONALD, Lieutenant-Governor
of Our Province of Ontario, at Our Government Houso, in Our City of
Toronto, in Our said Province, this THIRTIETH day of SEPTEMBER, in
the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy- six, and
in the fortieth year of Our Reign.
By Command,
S. J.jiVANKOUGHNET,
Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, Ontario.
Canada. \
Province of V D. A. MACDONALD. [L.S.]
Ontario. )
VICTORIA, by the Grace of GOD, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, QUEEN,
Defender of the Faith, dec., &c., &c.
To Our Faithful the Members elected to serve in the Legislative Assembly of Our Province
of Ontario, and summoned and called to a meeting of the Legislature of Our said
Province, at Our City of Toronto t on SATURDAY, the ELEVENTH day of the month of
NOVEMBER, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, to
have been commenced and held, and to every of you — GREETING :
PROCLAMATIONS. ix
0. Mowat, | T\/T HEREA.S the meeting of the Legislature of the Province of
Attorney-General. \ VV Ontario, stands prorogued to the ELEVENTH day of the month
of NOVEMBER, one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, at which time, at Our City of
Toronto, you were held and constrained to appear : Now KNOW YE, that for divers causes
and considerations, and taking into consideration the ease and convenience of Our loving
subjects, We have thought fit, by and with the advice of Our Executive Council of the
Province of Ontario, to relieve you, and each of you, of your attendance at the time afore-
said, hereby convoking, and by these presents enjoining you, and each of you, that on
TUESDAY, the NINETEENTH day of the month of DECEMBER next, you meet Us, in Our
Legislature of the said Province, at Our City of Toronto, and therein to do as may seem
necessary — HEREIN FAIL NOT.
IN TESTIMONY WHLREOF, We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent,
and the Great Seal of Ontario to be hereunto affixed: WITNESS, The
Honourable DONALD ALEXANDER MACDONALD, Lieu tenant-Governor
of our Province of Ontario, at Our Government House, in Our City of
Toronto, in Our said Province, this EIGHTEENTH day of NOVEMBER, in
the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six, and
in the fortieth year of Our Reign.
By Command,
S. J. VANKOUGHNET,
Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, Ontario.
Canada. ~)
Province of [ D. A. MACDONALD. [L.S.]
Ontario. )
VICTORIA, by the Grace of GOD, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, QUEEN,
Defender of the Faith, &c., <&c., &c.
To Our Faithful the Members elected to serve in the Legislative Assembly of Our Province
of Ontario, and summoned and called to a meeting of the Legislature of Our said
Province, at Our City of Toronto, on TUESDAY, the NINETEENTH day of the month of
DECEMBER, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six to
have been commenced and held, and to every of you — GREETING :
0. Mowat, ^ 1A/HEREAS the meeting of the Legislature of the Province of
Attorney-General, j VV Ontario, stands prorogued to the NINETEENTH day of the month
of DECEMBER instant ; nevertheless, for certain causes and considerations, we have thought
fit to prorogue the same to WEDNESDAY, the THIRD day of the month of JANUARY, in the
year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy- seven, and we do will that you
and each of you, and all others in this behalf interested, that on WEDNESDAY, the THIRD
day of the month of JANUARY next, at Our City of Toronto aforesaid, personally, you be and
appear for the DESPATCH OF BUSINESS, to treat, act, do and conclude upon these things
which in Our Legislature of the Province of Ontario, by the Common Council of Our said
Province, may by the favour of God be ordained — HEREIN FAIL NOT.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent,
and the Great Seal of Our said Province of Ontario to be hereunto
affixed : WITNESS, The Honourable DONALD ALEXANDER MACDONALD,
Lieutenant-Governor of Our Province of Ontario, at Our Government
House, in Our City of Toronto, in Our said Province, this FOURTH day
of DECEMBER, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and
seventy-six, and in the fortieth year of Our Reign.
By Command,
S. J. VANKOUGHNET,
Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, Ontario.
JOUENALS
OF THE
LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY
OF THE
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
Wednesday, 3rd January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
This being the first day of the second meeting of the Third Parliament of Ontario
for the Despatch of Business, pursuant to a Proclamation of Donald Alexander Macdonald,
Lieutenant-Governor of the Province of Ontario, and the House having met, the Lieu-
tenant-Governor entered the House and, having taken his seat on the Throne, was pleased
to open the Session by the following gracious Speech : —
Mr. Speaker and Gentlemen of the Legislative Assembly —
I have much pleasure in welcoming you again to your annual duties in connection
with the legislation and government of the Province.
I rejoice to have it in my power to announce that the learned Commissioners for the
Consolidation of the Statutes have completed their important and laborious undertaking,
and that the result is ready to be submitted to you. I hope that it will be found practi-
cable to give to the people of the Province at your present Session the benefit of this work
with such amendments in the existing laws as your wisdom may suggest or approve.
Bills embodying various amendments which have the recommendation of the Commis-
sioners will be laid before you.
A measure giving votes to the sons of farmers in certain cases will be submitted for
your consideration. Also, a Bill for extending the Voters' Lists Act, with necessary modi-
fications, to Municipal elections.
Further progress and improvement may be looked for in the great cause of Educa-
tion, now that it has reached another stage of development under the Act of last Session,
which assigned the administration of educational affairs to a responsible Department. It
is proposed to ask your assistance towards improving the qualifications of teachers, and
in securing to all the schools teachers properly trained in the best method of teaching.
Eeports will be laid before you as to the working of the law respecting the sale of
fermented and spirituous liquors under the Act of last Session. It will be seen that the
Act has already had a beneficial effect in diminishing the evils against which it was di-
rected. A Bill will be offered for your consideration, embodying some amendments which
SRD JANUARY. 1877.
have been suggested by experience, as calculated to advance the efficient working of the
law.
An agreement has been arrived at with the Government of the Dominion for the
purchase of the Rockwood Lunatic Asylum, subject to your approval and the approval of
the Parliament of the Dominion. Should this agreement go into effect, the criminal
lunatics now confined in this Asylum will be removed, and room will thereby be obtained
for other patients ; but I regret to say that it seems that still further provision must be
made, at this Session, for the accommodation of the insane, if our means of receiving and
caring for these afflicted persons are to keep pace with the annual requirements which,
unhappily, are to be anticipated.
I regret to find also, that there is a necessity for increased accommodation for the
Blind and for Deaf Mutes. The propriety of an appropriation for additions to the exist-
ing establishments for the instruction of these unfortunate classes will therefore demand
your humane consideration.
Notwithstanding the large sums hitherto applied in aid of important railway enter-
prises, urgent applications are made on behalf of some of the unfinished, as well as of the
other projected railways, for fresh grants. I commend to your prudent attention any of
these applications which may be brought before you.
The safety of the Records in the Crown Lands Department being of great importance
to the whole community, I invite you to consider whether there is any sufficient reason for
further delay in erecting such a fire-proof building as may afford the needed security in
future.
It is with satisfaction I note that, while the laborious and prudent character of our
people has saved us from much of the depression which still prevails in so many countries,
their energy and intelligence are opening up new markets for the produce of the
Province.
I rejoice to be able, from a personal visit, to give my testimony to the success which
attended the exhibition of Canadian resources at Philadelphia. Too much credit cannot
be given to the great zeal and the intelligent efforts which were displayed in every depart-
ment by the people of Ontario, and which largely contributed to Canada's gaining a proud
position in its rivalry with older and larger communities.
Since last Session the differences between Ontario and Quebec have continued to re-
ceive the attention of my Government. Besides some correspodence on the subject, Mem-
bers of my Government met at Ottawa, by appointment, a Committee of the Government
of Quebec ; and, after discussion, a course of action, to obtain, without further loss of
time, an authoritative decision as to the Award of 1870, was mutually arranged ; such a
decision being found to be essential to either an acceptance of the award, or any settlement
of the important matters embraced in it.
For the determination of the Provincial Boundaries by the agreed method of an
Arbitration, the appointment of a new arbitrator on behalf of the Province recently
became necessary, the distinguished judge who was to occupy that position having re-
quested to be relieved from it. Meanwhile, a provisional line had been mutually deter-
mined upon, in terms of the resolution of the Legislative Assembly at a former session ;
a considerable amount of additional materials for the ascertainment of the ultimate
boundaries had been collected ; a new and an exhaustive statement of the case of Ontario
had been prepared ; and a considerable part of the documentary and other evidence af-
fecting the questions at issue had been printed. Almost everything is now ready for the
final decision, within a few months, by able and competent Referees, of questions which
for two centuries have given occasion to keen controversy, and often to fierce conflicts,
between the Nations, as well as the great Public Bodies, who have from time to time
claimed portions of the disputed territory.
I have given directions that the Public Accounts for 1876 shall be laid before you.
The Estimates for the various branches of the public service for the present year
have been prepared, and will be submitted to you. You will find that they have been
framed with every regard to economy as well as efficiency.
I trust that your deliberations will receive the Divine blessing, and will result in
advancing the prosperity and happiness of all classes of the people.
The Lieutenant-Governor was then pleased to retire.
40 Vic. 3RD JANUARY.
Mr. Speaker informed the House, That he had received from the Judges selected
for the trial of Election Petitions pursuant to the Controverted Elections Acts, a Certificate
and Report relating to the Election for the Electoral District of the County of Prince
Edward ; and the said Certificate and Report were then read by the Clerk at the Table, as
follows : —
PRINCE EDWARD ELECTION.
Controverted Elections Acts, 1871, 1873 and 1876.
ABEAM HUYCK, Petitioner; GIDEON STRIKER, Respondent.
We, the undersigned, two of the Judges on the rota, sitting together in pursuance of
the provisions of the Election Act of 1876, to try this Petition, in which corrupt prac-
tices were alleged, do hereby certify to you in conformity with the provisions of sixteen
and seventeen of the Controverted Elections Act of 1871, that this trial was commenced
before us, at the Court House at Picton, in the County of Prince Edward, on the thirteenth
day of March last, and continued on the two following days, and was then adjourned to
Osgoode Hall, till Monday, the fifteenth day of May instant, and was then further ad-
journed until the following day, when we did adjudge and determine that the said Gideon
Striker was duly elected and returned at the election for the said County of Prince Ed-
ward, hoi den on the eleventh and eighteenth days of January.
We do further certify that it has not been proved before us that any corrupt practice
has been committed by, or with the knowledge and consent of either of the candidates at
the said election.
We further certify that in our opinion one John Sobey was proved guilty of corrupt
practices ; but he was not shown to be an agent of Robert Clapp, the other candidate at
the said election.
We have no reason to believe that corrupt practices did extensively prevail at said
election, — on the contrary, it appeared to us, on the evidence, that the contest had been
carried on with freedom from corrupt practices.
And we do further adjudge and determine that as the charges of corrupt practices
and the recriminatory charges have not been sustained in evidence, there shall be no costs
on either side in respect of so much of the petition as relates to such charges, but that
all costs, charges and expenses of and incidental to the scrutiny of ballots and votes, and
so much of the petition as relates thereto, shall be paid by the Petitioner, the said Abram
Huyck.
We further certify that, appended hereto, is a copy of our notes of the evidence
taken in the matter of the said petition.
Dated at Osgoode Hall, this sixteenth day of May, 1876.
GEO. W. BURTON,
One of the Judges on the
Eota to try this Petition.
S. H. BLAKE,
One oj tlit Judges on the
Rota to try this Petition.
To the Honourable,
The Speaker of the House of Assembly
Of the Province of Ontario.
Ordered, That the foregoing Report and Certificate be entered on the Journals of this
House.
Mr. Speaker informed the House, That he had received the following notification of
a vacancy which had occurred in the representation of the Electoral District of the South
Riding of the County of Wellington ; and that he had issued his Warrant for a new Writ
for the Election of a Member to serve in this present Parliament for the said Electoral
District : —
3RD JANUARY. 1877.
The Honourable the Speaker oj the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario :
I, Peter Gow, Member for the Electoral District of the South Riding of the County of
Wellington, hereby declare that it is my intention to resign, and I do hereby resign
my seat in the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario, for the said Electoral
District.
Given under my hand and seal, at Guelph, in the presence of two witnesses, this first
day of September, A.D. 1876.
PETER Gow. [L.S.]
Witnesses : D. Stirton, Dan. Guthrie.
Mr. Speaker also informed the House, That James Massie, Esquire, had been elected
as Member for the South Riding of the County of Wellington.
James Massie, Esquire, Member for the South Riding of the County of Wellington,
having previously taken the Oaths, and subscribed the Roll, took his seat.
Mr. Speaker reported that, to prevent mistakes, he had obtained a copy of the Speech
of the Lieutenant-Governor, which he read.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney- General Mou'at, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Pardee, the following Bill was introduced, and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 1), intituled, " An Act to provide for the Administration of Oaths of Office
to persons appointed as Justices of the Peace."
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Pardee,
Ordered, That the Speech of the Lieutenant-Governor to this House be taken into
consideration To-morrow.
Ordered, That the Votes and Proceedings of this House be printed, having been first
perused by Mr. Speaker, and that he do appoint the printing thereof, and that no person
but such as he shall appoint do presume to print the same.
Resolved, That Select Standing Committees of this House, for the present Session, be
appointed for the following purposes : 1. On Privileges and Elections; 2. On Railways;
3. On Miscellaneous Private Bills ; 4. On Standing Orders ; 5. On Public Accounts ;
6. On Printing ; which said Committees shall severally be empowered to examine and
inquire into all such matters and things as shall be referred to them by the House, and to
report from time to time their observations and opinions thereon, with power to send for
persons, papers and records.
Resolved, That if anything shall come in question touching the return or election of
any Member, he is to withdraw during the time the matter is in debate ; and all Members
returned upon double returns are to withdraw until their returns are determined.
Resolved, That if it shall appear that any person has been elected and returned a
Member of this House, or endeavoured so to be, by bribery, or any other corrupt practices,
this House will proceed with the utmost severity against all such persons as shall have
been wilfully concerned in such bribery, or other corrupt practices.
Resolved, That the offer of any money or other advantage to any Member of thi&
House, for the promoting of any matter whatsoever depending, or to be transacted in
Parliament, is a high crime and misdemeanor, and tends to the subversion of the con-
stitution.
Mr. Speaker communicated to the House, A. Report from the Librarian of the Legis-
lative Assembly on the state of the Library of Parliament, which, was read. (Semonat
Papers, No. 6.)
The House then adjourned at 4 P.M.
40 Vic. 4TH JANUARY.
Thursday, 4th January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the table : —
By the Honourable Mr. Crooks. — The Petition of the County Council of Oxford.
By the Honourable Mr. Pardee. — The Petition of A. L. McLaren and others, of
Toronto.
By Mr. Sinclair. — The Petition of John H. Campbell and others, of East Hawkesbury.
By Mr. Watterworth. — The Petition of Alexander Graham and others, of Middlesex.
By Mr. Widdifield.—The Petition of/. L. Russ and others, of Dray ton.
By Mr. Brown.— The Petition of the Town Council of Whitby.
By Mr. Hardy. — The Petition of Charles Hedgers and others, of Brant ; also, the Pe-
tition of the Town Council of Brantford.
By Mr. Hodgins. — The Petition of the Reverend Thomas B. Jones and others, of Ottawa •
also, the Petition of William Risdon and others, of Elgin ; also, the Petition of the Reverend
Saltern Givins and others, of Toronto.
By Mr. Scott. — The Petition of the Huron and Quebec Railway Company ; also, the Pe-
tition of Robert Dennistoun and others, of Peterborough.
By Mr. Flesher. — The Petition of David Banner and others ; also, the Petition of Percy
Evans and others, all of Cardwell.
By Mr. Tooley. — The Petition of John L. McDiarmid and others of Middlesex.
By Mr. Wilson. — The Petition of William E. Idsardi ; also, the Petition of William
C. Vanbuskirk and others, all of St. Thomas.
By Mr. Clarke (Norfolk).— The Petition of the Port Dover and Lake Huron Railway
Company.
By Mr. Rosevear. — The Petition of the Port Hope Harbour Commissioners.
The Order of the Day for taking into consideration the Speech of the Lieutenant-
Governor, having been read,
Mr. Miller moved, seconded by Mr. Massey,
1. That an humble Address be presented to His Honour, thanking His Honour for his
gracious Speech at the opening of this Session, and tendering to him our acknowledg-
ments for the pleasure he expresses in welcoming us again to our annual duties in connec-
tion with the legislation and government of this Province.
2. That \ve thank His Honour for the announcement that the learned Commissioners
for the Consolidation of the Statutes have completed their important and laborious under-
taking, and that the result is ready to be submitted to us ; that we unite with His
Honour in hoping that it will be found practicable to give to the people of the Province
at our present Session the benefit of this work with such amendments in the existing laws
as may be suggested or approved ; and that we shall give our best attention to the Bills
which are to be laid before us, embodying various amendments which have the recom-
mendation of the Commissioners.
3. That we shall carefully consider any Bills which that may be laid before us containing
provisions for giving votes to the sons of farmers in certain cases, and for extending the
Voters' Lists Act, with necessary modifications, to Municipal Elections.
4. That we join with His Honour in the opinion that further progress and improve-
ment may be looked for in the great cause of Education, now that it has reached another
stage of development under the Act of last Session, which assigned the administration of
educational affairs to a responsible Department ; and assure his Honour that we shall
give our best consideration to any measure for improving the qualifications of teachers,
and securing to all the schools teachers properly trained in the best method of teaching.
5. That we thank His Honour for the intimation that Reports will be laid before us as
to the working of the law respecting the sale of fermented and spirituous liquors under
the Act of last Session ; that we are gratified at His Honour's assurance that the Act has
4TH JANUARY. 1877.
already had a beneficial effect in diminishing the evils against which it was directed ; and
that we assure His Honour that the Bill which is to be offered for our consideration,
embodying some amendments which have been suggested by experience as calculated to
advance the efficient working of the law, will receive our best attention.
6. That we thank His Honour for the information that an agreement has been arrived
at with the Government of the Dominion for the purchase of ftockwood Lunatic Asylum,
subject to our approval and the approval of the Parliament of the Dominion, and that
should this agreement go into effect, the criminal lunatics now confined in this Asylum
will be removed, and room will thereby be obtained for other patients ; and that we
regret, with His Honour, that still further provision for the accommodation of the insane
should be necessary to be made at this Session, if our means of receiving and caring for
these afflicted persons are to keep pace with the annual requirements which unhappily are
to be anticipated.
7. That we concur with His Honour in regretting the necessity for increased accom-
modation for the Blind and .Deaf Mutes, and assure His Honour that the propriety of an
appropriation for additions to the existing establishments for the instruction of these
unfortunate classes will receive our best attention.
8. That we learn with interest that, notwithstanding the large sums hitherto applied
in aid of important railway enterprises, urgent applications are made on behalf of some
of the unfinished as well as of the other projected railways, for fresh grants ; and that we
shall give our prudent attention to any of these applications which may be brought before
us.
9. That, the safety of the Records of the Crown Lands Department being of great im-
portance to the whole community, we shall avail ourselves of His Honour's invitation to
consider whether there is sufficient reason for further delay in erecting such a fire-proof
building as may afford the needed security in future.
10. That we unite in the satisfaction expressed by His Honour in noting that, while the
laborious and prudent character of our people has saved us from much of the depression
which still prevails in so many countries, their energy and intelligence are opening up
new markets for the produce of the Province.
11. That we learn with satisfaction the testimony which His Honour is able, from
a personal visit, to give to the success which attended the exhibition of Canadian re-
sources at Philadelphia, and we concur with his Honour's observation that too much credit
cannot be given to the great zeal and the intelligent efforts which were displayed in every
department by the people of Ontario, and which largely contributed to Canada's gaining a
proud position in its rivalry with older and larger communities.
12. That we are glad to learn, that since last Session the differences between Ontario and
Quebec have continued to receive the attention of His Honour's Government, that besides
some correspondence on the subject, Members of the Government met at Ottawa, by ap-
pointment, a Committee of the Government of Quebec, and that, after discussion, a
course of action to obtain without further loss of time an authoritative decision as to
the Award of 1870, was mutually arranged, such a decision being found to be 6ssential
to either an acceptance of the award, or any settlement of the important matters em-
braced in it.
13. That we thank His Honour for informing us that, for the determination of the
Provincial Boundaries by the agreed method of an Arbitration, the appointment of a
new arbitrator on behalf of the Province recently became necessary ; the distinguished
judge who was to occupy that position having requested to be relieved from it ; that
meanwhile, a provisional line had been mutually determined upon, in terms of the reso-
lution of the Legislative Assembly at a former Session ; a considerable amount of addi-
tional materials for the ascertainment of the ultimate boundaries had been collected ; a
new and an exhaustive statement of the case of Ontario had been prepared ; and a con-
siderable part of the documentary and other evidence affecting the questions at issue
had been printed ; that almost everything is now ready for the final decision, within a
few months, by able and competent Referees, of questions which, for two centuries, have
given occasion to keen controversy, and often to fierce conflicts, between the Nations, as
well as the great Public Bodies, who have from time to time claimed portions of the dis-
puted territory.
40 Vic. 4TH AND 5TH JANUARY.
14. That we thank His Honour for the assurance that the Public Accounts for 1876
shall be laid before us.
15. That we thank His Honour for the information that the Estimates for the various
branches of the public service for the present year have been prepared, and will be sub-
mitted to us, and for his assurance that they have been framed with every regard to
economy as well as efficiency.
16. That we unite with His Honour in trusting that our deliberations will receive
the Divine blessing, and may result in advancing the prosperity and happiness of all classes
of the people.
The several paragraphs of the proposed Address, from one to twelve inclusive, hav-
ing been read the second time, were agreed to.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by ths Honourable
Mr. Crooks,
Ordered, That the consideration of the remaining paragraphs be postponed till To-
morrow.
The House then adjourned at 6 P.M.
Friday, 5th January, 1877
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat — The Petition of the County Council
of Oxford.
By the Honourable Mr. Cam&ron — The Petition of Francis Richardson and others, of
Toronto.
By the Honourable Mr. Currie — The Petition of Edwin Goodman and others, of Lin-
coln ; also, the Petition of the City Council of St. Catharines ; also, two Petitions of the
County Council of Welland.
By Mr. Lander — The Petition of the Credit Valley Railway Company.
By Mr. Scott — The Petition of the North Simcoe Railway Company.
By Mr. Brown — The Petition of S. B. Smith and others, of Ontario.
By Mr. McLeod — The Petition of D. Allan and others, of Durham.
By Mr. Flesher — The Petition of Frederick Strangways and others, of Simcot.
By Mr. Ferris — The Petition of W. J. Boyce and others, of Northumberland.
By Mr. Rosevear — The Petition of Thomas Russell and others, of Durham.
By Mr. Lane — The Petition of Alexander Macklin and others, of York.
By Mr. Clarke (Norfolk) — The Petition of John Winsckel and others, of Norfolk.
By Mr. Hargraft — The Petition of the Cobourg, Peterborough and Marmora Railway
and Mining Company.
By Mr. Broder— The Petition of the Rector and Churchwardens of St. John's Church,
Iroquois.
By Mr. Widdifield. — The Petition of Edward M. Hodder and others, of Toronto.
By Mr. Williams — The Petition of the Right Reverend Peter Crinnan, of Hamilton.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney -General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Crooks.
Resolved, That a Special Committee of twelve Members be appointed to prepare and
report, with all convenient speed, lists of Members to compose the Select Standing Com-
mittees ordered by this House, to be composed as follows : — The Honourable Attorney-
5TH JANUARY. 1877.
General Mowat, the Honourable Messieurs Wood and Cameron, Messieurs Boulter, Hodgins,
Finlayson, Lander, Meredith, Baxter, Scott, Hardy and Gibson.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Crooks, »
Resolved, That a Select Committee of eight Members be appointed to act with Mr.
Speaker in the control and management of the Library of Parliament, to be composed as
follows : — The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, the Honourable Messieurs Crooks
and Cameron, and Messieurs Hodgins, Meredith, Wills, McLeod and Gibson.
The Order of the Day for resuming the consideration of the proposed Address in
reply to the Lieutenant-Governor's Speech, at the opening of the Session, having been
read,
The thirteenth and fourteenth paragraphs of the proposed Address, having been
read the second time, were agreed to.
The fifteenth paragraph having been again read,
Mr. Scott moved, seconded by Mr. Deacon,
That the following be added thereto : " But this House regrets, in view of the great
interest manifested in the question by the people at large, His Honour has not been
pleased to make reference to the subject of the law relating to the taxation of property
for Municipal purposes, and the existing exemptions from such taxation."
Mr. Speaker called upon Mr. Clarke (Wellington) to take the Chair during his absence ;
and, after some time, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.
And the House having continued to sit until twelve of the clock midnight,
SATURDAY, GTH January, 1877.
The Motion, having been put, was lost on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Baker,
Coutts,
Macdougall (Sim-
Preston,
Barr,
Creighton,
coe),
Richardson,
Bell,
Deacon,
McGowan,
Rosevear
Boulter,
Flesher,
Merrick,
Scott,
Broder,
Orange,
Monk,
Tooley,
Brown,
Harkin,
Mostyn,
Wills,
Cameron,
Kean,
O'Sullivan,
Wigle—29.
Code,
Lander,
NAYS.
Messieurs
;
Ballantyne, Clarke (Norfolk), Deroche, Graham (Lambtori),
Baxter, Clarke (Wellington), Ferris, Grant,
Bishop, Cole, Fleming, Haney,
Bonfield, Crooks, Fraser, Hardy,
Chisholm, Dawson, Gibson, Hay,
40 Vic. 5TH JANUARY. 9
Hodgins,
Miller,
Robinson,
Watterworth,
Hunter,
Mowat,
Ross,
Widdifield,
Lane,
O'Donoughue,
Sinclair,
Williams,
Lyon,
Pardee,
Springer,
Wilson,
McMahon,
Paxton,
Striker,
Wood— 41.
Massie,
The fifteenth paragraph was then agreed to.
The sixteenth paragraph, having been read the second time, was agreed to.
Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to the Lieutenant-Governor, thanking
him for his gracious Speech at the opening of the Session.
Resolved, That the above Eesolution be referred to a Select Committee composed as
follows : — The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, The Honourable Mr. Crooks, and
Messieurs Miller and Massie, with instructions to prepare and report an Address to the
Lieutenant-Governor, in conformity therewith.
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, from the Select Committee, reported an
Address, which was read as follows : —
We Her Majesty's dutiful and loyal subjects, the Legislative Assembly of the Pro-
vince of Ontario, in Parliament Assembled, humbly thank Your Honour for your gracious
Speech at the opening of this Session, and tender to you our acknowledgments for the
Eleasure you express in welcoming us again to our annual duties in connection with the
jgislation and government of this Province.
We thank Your Honour for the announcement that the learned Commissioners for the
Consolidation of the Statutes have completed their important and laborious undertaking,
and that the result is ready to be submitted to us ; we unite with Your Honour in hop-
ing that it will be found practicable to give to the people of the Province at our pre-
sent Session the benefit of this work, with such amendments in the existing laws as may
be suggested or approved ; and we shall give our best attention to the Bills which
are to be laid before us, embodying various amendments which have the recommendation
of the Commissioners.
We shall carefully consider any Bills that may be laid before us containing
provisions for giving votes to the sons of farmers in certain cases, and for extending che
Voters' Lists Act, with necessary modifications, to Municipal Elections.
We join with Your Honour in the opinion that further progress and improvement may
be looked for in the great cause of Education, now that it has reached another stage of
development under the Act of last Session, which assigned the administration of educa-
tional affairs to a responsible Department ; and assure Your Honour that we shall give
our best consideration to any measure for improving the qualifications of teachers, and
securing to all the schools teachers properly trained in the best method of teaching.
We thank Your Honour for the intimation that Reports will be laid before us as to
the working of the law respecting the sale of fermented and spirituous liquors under the
Act of last Session ; and we are gratified at Your Honour's assurance that the Act has
already had a beneficial effect in diminishing the evils against which it was directed ; and
that we assure Your Honour that the Bill which is to be offered for our consideration, em-
bodying some amendments which have been suggested by experience as calculated to
advance the efficient working of the law, will receive our best attention.
We thank Your Honour for the information that an agreement has been arrived at
with the Government of the Dominion for the purchase of Rockwood Lunatic Asylum, sub-
ject to our approval and the approval of the Parliament of the Dominion, and that should
this agreement go into effect, the criminal lunatics now confined in this Asylum will be
removed, and room will thereby be obtained for other patients ; and we regret with
Your Honour that still further provision for the accommodation of the insane should be
necessary to be made at this Session, if our means of receiving and caring for these
afflicted persons are to keep pace with the annual requirements which unhappily are to be
anticipated.
10 STH JANUARY. 1877.
We concur with Your Honour in regretting the necessity for increased accommodation
for the Blind and Deaf Mutes, and assure Your Honour that the propriety of an appropria-
tion for additions to the existing establishments for the instruction of these unfortunate
classes, will receive our best attention.
We learn with interest that, notwithstanding the large sums hitherto applied in aid
of important railway enterprises, urgent applications are made on behalf of some of the
unfinished as well as of the other projected railways, for fresh grants ; and we shall
give our prudent attention to any of these applications which may be brought before us.
The safety of the Eecords of the Crown Lands Department being of great importance
to the whole community, we shall avail ourselves of Your Honour's invitation to consider
whether there is sufficient reason for further delay in erecting such a fire proof building
as may afford the needed security in future.
We unite in the satisfaction expressed by Your Honour in noting that, while the labo-
rious and prudent character of our people has saved us from much of the depression which
still prevails in so many countries, their energy and intelligence are opening up new mar-
kets for the produce of the Province.
We learn with satisfaction the testimony which Your Honour is able, from a personal
visit, to give to the success which attended the exhibition of Canadian resources at Phila-
delphia, and we concur with Your Honour's observation that too much credit cannot be
given to the great zeal and the intelligent efforts which were displayed in every depart-
ment by the people of Ontario, and which largely contributed to Canada's gaining a proud
position in its rivalry with older and larger communities.
We are glad to learn, that since last Session the differences between Ontario and
Quebec have continued to receive the attention of Your Honour's Government, that besides
some correspondence on the subject, Members of the Government met at Ottawa, by ap-
pointment, a Committee of the Government of Quebec, and that after discussion, a course
of action to obtain without further loss of time an authoritative decision as to the
Award of 1870, was mutually arranged, such a decision being found to be essential to
either an acceptance of the award, or any settlement of the important matters embraced
in it.
We thank your Honour for informing us that, for the determination of the Provin-
cial Boundaries by the agreed method of an Arbitration, the appointment of a new arbi-
trator on behalf of the Province recently became necessary ; the distinguished judge who
was to occupy that position having requested to be relieved from it ; that meanwhile,
a provisional line had been mutually determined upon, in terms of the resolution
of the Legislative Assembly at a former Session ; a considerable amount of addi-
tional materials for the ascertainment of the ultimate boundaries had been collected ; a
new and an exhaustive statement, of the case of Ontario had been prepared ; and a con-
siderable part of the documentary and other evidence affecting the questions at issue had
been printed ; that almost everything is now ready for the final decision, within a few
months, by able and competent Referees, of questions which, for two centuries, have given
occasion to keen controversy, and often to fierce conflicts, between the Nations, as well
as the great Public Bodies, who have from time to time claimed portions of the disputed
territory.
We thank Your Honour for the assurance that the Public Accounts for 1876 shall be
laid before us.
We thank Your Honour for the information that the Estimates for the various branches
of the public service for the present year have been prepared, and will be submitted to
us, and for your assurance that they have been framed with every regard to economy as
well as efficiency.
We unite with Your Honour in trusting that our deliberations will receive the Divine
blessing, and may result in advancing the prosperity and happiness of all classes of the
people.
The Address, having been read a second time, was agreed to.
Ordered, That the Address be engrossed, and presented to the Lieuten ant-Governor
by such Members of the House as are of the Executive Council.
40 Vic. STH JANUARY. 11
On motion of the Honourable Mr. Crooks, seconded by the Honourable Attorney-
General Mowat,
Resolved, That this House will on Tuesday next, resolve itself into a Committee of
Supply.
Resolved, That this House will on Tuesday next, resolve itself into a Committee of
Ways and Means.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
The Public Accounts of the Province of Ontario for the year ending 31st December,
1875. (Sessional Papers, No. 1.)
Also : Annual Report of the Commissioners of Public Works for the Province of
Ontario, for the year 1876. (Sessional Papers, No. 5.)
Also : Report of the School of Practical Science. (Sessional Papers, No. 13.)
Also : A Return to an Address (in Session of 1875-6) to the Lieutenant-Governor,
praying that he would cause to be laid before the House a Return of —
1. The number of civil and criminal cases entered for trial at the several Assizes
since January, 1874 ; the number of cases tried or otherwise disposed of; and the num-
ber of remanets and criminal cases kept over at each assize.
2. The number of rules for new trials argued or otherwise disposed of and enlarged,
and the number of other rules, special cases, demurrers argued, or otherwise disposed of
during each term of the Court of Queen's Bench and Common Pleas, since Hilary Term,
1873, and the number of rules, demurrers, and other cases argued and disposed of in the
said Courts by a single Judge, under section 19 of the Administration of Justice Act,
1874.
3. The number of Bills filed, and decrees and orders issued in the Court of Chancery
since 1870 ; the number of cases heard or otherwise disposed of on Circuit at each Chan-
cery Sitting and in Court at Toronto, and the number of cases reheard during the same
period. (Sessional Papers No. 14.)
Also: — A Return to an Address (in Session of 1875-6) to the Lieutenant-Governor,
praying that he would cause to be laid before the House, a Return shewing the number of
cases'tried by Jury in the several counties and cities in this Province, in the years 1874
and 1875, and the number tried by Judges without the intervention of a Jury, distin-
guishing Criminal from Civil. The amount of expenditure for Jury purposes in the
several counties and cities for the same years, giving separately the amounts paid to
the Clerks of the Peace, amounts paid to electors, amounts paid to Sheriffs for sum-
moning, and amounts paid to Grand and Petit Jurors respectively for attendance. Also
the amounts received by Treasurers from Deputy Clerks of the Crown for Jury fees.
(Sessional Papers) No. 15.
Also : — A Return to an Address (in session of 1875-6) to the Lieutenant-Governor,
praying that he would cause to be laid before the House, Copies of the abstract of Election
Expenses incurred by or in behalf of any candidate at the last general and subsequent elec-
tions, giving the name of the agent or agents of each such candidate as published by the
Returning Officer in the several constituencies of the, Province. (Sessional Papers, No. 17.)
The House then adjourned at 12.35 A.M.
12 STH JANUARY. 1877.
Monday, 8th January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The Clerk laid upon the Table, in obedience to an Order of the House (Session
1875-6) :—
A Tabular Statement containing the following information respecting each Eailway
in Ontario: —
(1.) The number of miles authorized by Charter, the number of miles constructed,
the number of miles under contract, the number of miles for which aid has been granted
by Order in Council.
(2. ) The Capital authorized by Charter, the amount of stock actually and bona fide
subscribed, the amount paid on such stock.
(3.) The amount of Municipal Bonuses.
(4.) The average cost per mile of such Eailway, the total cost of such Railway, in-
cluding rolling stock.
(5.) The amount per mile authorized to be paid from the " Railway Aid Fund," or
"Railway Subsidy Fund," the amount actually paid ; also, any special conditions in the
Order in Council. (Sessional Papers, No. 9).
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat — The Petition of the Town Council
of Woodstock ; also, the Petition of the Village Council of Embro.
By the Honourable Mr. Wood — The Petition of the Town Council of Lindsay.
By the Honourable Mr. Pardee — The Petition of the Town Council of Petrolia.
By the Honourable Mr. Cameron — The Petition of Messrs. Gooderham and Worts, and
others, of Toronto.
By Mr. Bell — Tne Petition of John Valentine and others ; also, the Petition of the
Honourable Frank Smith and others ; also, the Petition of the Toronto, Grey and Bruce,
Eailway Company ; also, the Petition of Gordon, McKay and Company, all of Toronto.
By Mr. Hodgins — The Petition of the Town Council of St. Thomas.
By Mr. RoUnson — The Petition of the City Council of Kingston.
By Mr. Wigle — The Petition of the Town Council of Amherstburgh.
By Mr. McLeod — The Petition of the Town Council of Bowmanville.
By Mr. Lander— The Petition of the Loyal Orange District Lodge of Walters Fall*.
By Mr. Merrick — The Petition of the Loyal Orange County Lodge of West Lambion ;
also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange County Lodge of South Ontario ; also, the Petition
of the Loyal Orange District Lodge of Arthur; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange
District Lodge of Welland Port ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange County Lodge of
South Ontario ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange District Lodge of Bosanquet ; also,
the Petition of the Loyal Orange County Lodge of South Perth ; also, the Petition of the
Loyal Orange District Lodge of Mulmur ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Pro-
vincial Grand Lodge of Western Ontario.
By Mr. Graham (LamUon)-The Petition of the Loyal Orange County Lodge of East
Lambton ; also, the Petition of George Shirley and others, of East Lambton.
By Mr. Bishop — The Petition of the Loyal Orange County Lodge of South Huron ;
also, the Petition of John Hyndman and others, of Exeter.
By Mr. Bethune — The Petition of the Town Council of Cornwall.
By Mr. Hay — The Petition of the Town Council of St. Mary's ; also, the Petition of
the Town Council of Mitchell.
By Mr. Lyon — The Petition of the Town Council of Oakville.
By Mr. Sexton — The Petition of the County Council of Wentworth ; also, the Petition
of F. D. Thuresson and others, of Wentworth.
By Mr. Clarke ( Well ington)— The Petition of the Village Council of Clifford ; also, the
40 Vic. 8TH JANUARY. 13
Petition of the Village Council of Drayton ; also, the Petition of the Village Council of
Mora.
By Mr. Ross— The Petition of the Town Council of Goderich.
By Mr. Broder — The Petition of Reuben Rose and others, of Matilda.
By Mr. Chisholm — The Petition of the Peel General Manufacturing Company.
By Mr. Kean — The Petition of the Village Council of Stayner ; also, the Petition of the
Town Council of Orillia.
By Mr. Code — The Petition of the Executive Committee of the Synod of the Diocese of
Ontario ; also, the Petition of the Lord Bishop of the Diocese of Ontario.
By Mr. Ferris — The Petition of the Village Council of Brighton.
By Mr. Patterson (York)— The Petition of the Village Council of Yorkvilk.
By Mr. Harkin — The Petition of the Township Council of East Hawkesbury.
By Mr. Preston — The Petition of the Village Council of Gananoque.
The following Petitions were received and read : —
Of the Port Dover and Lake Huron Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass to
amend their Acts of Incorporation.
Of the Huron and Quebec Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass to amend
their Acts of Incorporation.
Of Robert Dennistoun and others, of Peterborough, praying that an Act may pass to
incorporate the William Hall, Peterborough, Protestant Poor Trust.
Of the Port Hope Harbour Commissioners, praying that an Act may pass to enable them
to consolidate their debt.
Of William E. Idsardi, of St. Thomas, praying that an Act may pass authorizing his
admission as a Provincial Land Surveyor.
Of the Reverend Thomas Bedford Jones and others, of Ottawa, praying that an Act may
pass to authorize them to mortgage certain lands, for the benefit of St. Alban's Church, Ottawa.
Of the Reverend Saltern Givins and others, of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass to
authorize them to mortgage certain lands in the City of Toronto, for the benefit of St. Paul's
Church.
Of John A. Campbell and others, of East Hawkesbury, praying that an Act may pass to
divide the Township of East Hawkesbury into two municipalities.
Of J. L. fiuss and others, of Drayton, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the
Christian Church of Canada.
Of the Town Council of Brantford, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the
Town of Brantford as a City.
Of the County Council of Oxford, also of the Town Council of Whitby, severally praying
for certain amendments to the Municipal and Assessment Acts, with respect to the Exemption
clauses.
Of William C. Fanbuskirk, of St. Thomas ; also of Charles Hodgins and others, of Brant ;
also of A. L. McLaren and others, of Toronto ; also of Alexander Graham and others, of
Middlesex ; also of William Risdon and others, of Elgin ; also of John L. McDearmid and
others : also of Percy Evans and others, of Cardwell ; also of David Bonner and others, of
Cardwell, severally praying that an Act may pass to incorporate " Trinity Medical School."
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, from the Special Committee appointed to
prepare and report with all convenient speed Lists of Members to compose the Select Stand-
ing Committees ordered by the House, reported that they had prepared the Lists and the
same were read as follows : —
COMMITTEE ON PRIVILEGES AND ELECTIONS. — The Honourable Attorney-General
Mowat, the Honourable Messieurs Crooks, Currie and Macdougall, Messieurs Ballantyne,
Barr, Bell, Bonfield, Broder, Code, Cole, Dawson, Deroche, Finlayson, Graham (Lambton),
Grange, Hodgins, McCraney, McLeod, McMahon, McRae, Monk, Patterson (Essex), Paxton,
Richardson, Rosevear, Sexton, Scott, Sinclair, Springer, Tooley and Wills — 32.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of nine Members.
COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE BILLS. — The Honourable Messieurs Cameron, Currie,
fraser, Pardee and Macdougall, Messieurs Baker, Ballantyne, Baxter, Broder, Clarke (Nor-
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folk), Code, Cole, Dawson, Deacon, Finlayson, Fleming, Graham (Lambton), Grant, Hardy,
Harkin, Hodgins, Lander, McGowan, McMahon, Massie, Meredith, Merrick, Monk, O'Dono-.
ghue, Patterson (Essex), Patterson (York), Preston, Richardson, Scott, Sexton, Sinclair, Snet-
singer, Tooley, Watterworth, Widdifield, and Wilson — 39.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of nine Members.
COMMITTEE ON RAILWAYS. — The Honourable Messieurs Cameron, Crooks, Currie,
Fraser, J'ardee, McDougall and Wood, Messieurs Appleby, Barr, Baxter, Bell, Bishop,
Boulter, Brown, Clarke (Norfolk), Coutts, Creighton, Dawson, Deacon, Deroche, Flesher, Gra-
ham (Frontenac), Haney, Har graft, Hay, Hunter, Kean, Lane, Lauder, Long, Lyon, Mc-
Craney, McLeod, McRae, Meredith, Merrick, Mostyn, O'Donoghue, O'Sullivan, Patterson
(York), Paxton, Robinson, Scott, Sinclair, Springer, Watterworth, Widdifield, Wigle, Williams,
and Wilson — 50.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of nine Members.
COMMITTEE ON STANDING ORDERS : — The Honourable Mr. Macdougall, Messieurs
Appleby, Bishop, Bonfield, Clarke (Norfolk), Code, Coutts, Dawson, Deroche, Finlayson, Flem-
ing, Grant, Haney, Hargraft, Harkin, Hunter, Lane, Lyon, McDougall (Middlesex), McGowan,
McLeod, McRae, Massie, Merrick, Monk, Mostyn, O'Sullivan, Paxton, Preston, Robinson,
Snetsinger, Springer, Wigle, Wills and Wilson — 35.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of nine Members.
COMMITTEE ON PRINTING : — The Honourable Messieurs Fraser and Macdougall
Mess;eurs Boulter, Clarke (Wellington), Creighton, Deroche, Grange, Haney and 0' Donoghue
—9.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of five Members.
COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ACCOUNTS :— The Honourable Messieurs Cameron, Crooks,
Macdougall and Wood, Messieurs Clarke ( Wellington), Deacon, Ferris, Gibson, Hardy, Hay,
Lauder, Merrick, Meredith, Ross, Striker, Williams and Wills — 17.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of nine Members.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Crooks.
Ordered, That the several Members named in the Report of the Special Committee
appointed to report lists of Members to compose the Standing Committees ordered by
this House, do compose the said Standing Committees.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 67), intituled " An Act respecting Escheats and Forfeitures." — The Honour-
able Attorney- General Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 68), intituled " An Act to Amend and Repeal Certain Enactments of the last
Session of the Legislature of this Province." — The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 69), intituled " An Act respecting the Revised Statutes for Ontario." — The
Honourable Attorney-General Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday^ next.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House^by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
Interim Report of the Registrar-General of the Province of Ontario, for the first half •
year of 1876 (Sessional Papers, No. 16).
The House then adjourned at 3.45 P.M.
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Tuesday, 9th January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up. and laid upon the Table :—
By the Honourable Mr, Wood. — The Petition of the County Council of Victoria • also,
the Petition of A. E. Vrooman and others, of Victoria.
By the Honourable Mr. McDougall — The Petition of the Town Council of Barrie; also,
the Petition of the Town Council of Orillia.
By the Honourable Mr. Currie. — The Petition of the Village Council of Port Dalhousie ;
also, the Petition of the Village Council of Welland ; also, the Petition of the Village
Council of Chippawa ; also, the Petition of the Village Council of Port Colborne ; also, the
Petition of the Town Council of Thorold ; also, the Petition of J. W. Schooley and others ;
also, the Petition of A. B. Cook, and others, all of Welland.
By Mr. Sinclair. — The Petition of the Town Council of Kincardine ; also, the Petition
of the Town Council of Walkerton ; also, the Petition of the Village Council of Port Elgin ;
also, the Petition of the Tillage Council of Southampton.
By Mr. McCraney. — The Petition of the Village Council of Blenheim.
By Mr. Wigle. — The Petition of the Loyal Orange County Lodge of Essex.
By Mr. Hardy. — The Petition of William F. Harris and others ; also, the Petition of
D. C. Smythe and others all of Brant; also, the Petition of the Deacons and Ministers of the
Presbyterian Congregation of the Town of Orillia ; also the Petition of the Town Council of
Brantford ; also, the Petition of the County Council of Brant.
By Mr. Widdifield. — The Petition of the County Council of Aurora.
By Mr. Clarke (Norfolk) — .The Petition of the Town Council of Simcoe.
By Mr. Striker — The Petition of the Village Council of Wellington • also, the Petition
of the Town Council of Picton.
By Mr. Scott — The Petition of the Village Council of Ashburnham.
By Mr. Monk — The Petition of the Village Council of New Edinburgh.
By Mr. McMahon—The Petition of the Town Council of Dundas.
By Mr. Long — The Petition of James Crawford and others, of Simcoe ; also, the Peti-
tion of the Village Council of Penetanguishene ; also, the Petition of the Town Conncil of
Collingwood ; also, the Petition of the Town Council of Barrie.
By Mr. Finlayson — The Petition of A. J. Livingstone and others of Brant.
By Mr. Wilson — The Petition of Alexander Fraser and others, of Elgin.
By Mr. Harkin — The Petition of S. Jabrasse and others, of East Hawkesbury.
By Mr. Eosevear. — The Petition of the Town Council of Port Hope.
By Mr. Paxton.- -The Petition of the Village Council ofUxbridge.
By Mr. Sexton. — The Petition of the Village Council of Grimsby.
By Mr. Fleming. — The Petition of the Village Council of New Hamburgh ; also, the
Petition of the Village Council of Preston ; also, the Petition of the Village Council of
Hespeler.
By Mr. Deroche. — The Petition of the County Council of Lennox and Adding ton ; also,
the Petition of the Toronto House Building Association.
By Mr. Graham (Lambton). — The Petition of the Village Council of Wyoming ; also,
the Petition of the Village Council of Portsmouth.
By Mr. Lyon. — The Petition of the Village Council of Georgetown.
By Mr. Mostyn. — The Petition of the Village Council of Lanark.
By Mr. Meredith. — The Petition of the City Council of London.
By Mr. Deacon. — The Petition of the Village Council of Renfrew.
By Mr. Gibson. — The Petition of the Town Council of Seaforth ; also, the Petition of
tbe Village Council of Wroxeter.
By Mr. Chisholm. — The Petition of the Village Council of Bolton ; also, the Petition
of the Town Council of Brampton.
By Mr. Walter worth. — The Petition of the High School Board of WardmUe.
1(5 9TH JANUARY. 1877.
By Mr Merrick. — The Petition of the County Council of the United Counties of Leeds
and Grenville ; also, the Petition of the Village Council of Kemptville ; also, the Petition of
the Loyal Orange District Lodge of Mono ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange District
Lodge of Mosa ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of North Ridge ; also, the
Petition of the Loyal Orange County Lodge of Haldimand ; also, the Petition of the Loyal
Orange County Lodge of Brant ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange District Lodge of
Wellandport ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange District Lodge of WUfby ; also, the
Petition of the Loyal Orange District Lodge of Union ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange
Lodge of Stratford ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange District Lodge of St. Marys ;
also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange District Lodge of Scott and Uxbridge.
By Mr. Richardson. — The Petition of the Loyal Orange District Lodge of Norfolk.
The following Petitions were received and read : —
Of the County Council of Wetland ; also, of the County Council of Oxford, severally
praying for certain amendments to the Ontario Medical Act.
Of the City Council of St. Catharines, praying for certain amendments to the Municipal
Act respecting the election of Mayors.
Of the North Simcoe Kailway Company, praying that an Act may pass to amend their
Act of incorporation.
Of the Credit Valley Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass to extend the
time for completing the Railway.
Of the Rector and Churchwardens of St. John's Church, Iroquois, praying that an Act
nay pass to authorize them to mortgage certain lands.
Of the Cobourg, Peterborough and Marmora Railway and Mining Company, praying
tnat .in Act may pass to amend their Act of incorporation.
Of the Right Reverend P. F. Crinnon, of Hamilton, praying that an Act may pass to
incorporate the Roman Catholic Corporation of the Diocese of Hamilton.
Of the County Council of Welland, praying for certain amendments to the Assessment
Act respecting the exemption clauses.
Of Edward M. Hodder and others, of Toronto ; also, of Francis Richardson and others,
of Toronto ; also, of Edwin Goodman and others, of Lincoln ; also, of Alexander Macklin
and others, of York ; also, of Thomas Russell and others, of Durham ; also, of D. Allen and
others, of Durham ; also, of William J. Boyce and others, of Northumberland ; also, of John
Winskel and others, of Norfolk ; also, of S. B. Smith and others, of Ontario; also, of Frank
Strangways and others, of Simcoe, severally praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the
Trinity Medical School.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Pardee,
Ordered, That the names of Messieurs Miller and Chisholm be added to the Committee
on Railways ; Messieurs Miller, Boulter, and Chisholm to the Committee on Private Bills,
and that the name of the Honourable Mr. Wood be omitted from the Committee on Railways.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Pardee,
Ordered, That when this House adjourns to-day, it do stand adjourned until half-past
twelve To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 70) intituled " An Act respecting references to the Supreme Courts of Canada,
and the Exchequer Court of Canada in certain cases." The Honourable Attorney-General
Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 71) intituled "An Act to amend the Voters' Lists Act." — Mr. Hodgins.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
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Bill (No. 79), intituled " An Act respecting the Territorial Districts of Muskoka, Parry
Sound and Thunder Bay, and the Provisional County of Haliburton." — The Honourable
Attorney- General Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 80), intituled " An Act for the Encouragement of Agriculture, Horticulture,
Arts and Manufactures." — The Honourable Mr. Wood.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat delivered to Mr. Speaker a Message from the
Lieutenant-Governor, signed by himself ; and the said Message was read by Mr. Speaker, and
is as follows : —
D. A. MACDONALD.
The Lieutenant-Governor transmits Supplementary Estimates of certain sums required
for the service of the Province until the Estimates for the year 1877 are finally passed, and
recommends them to the Legislative Assembly.
GOVERNMENT HOUSE,
TORONTO, January 9th, 1877.
ESTIMATES.
For the service of the year 1877 until the ) #0^7 KO« *«
Estimates of 1877 are finally passed. /
(Sessional Papers No. 8.)
Ordered, That the Message from the Lieutenant-Governor, together with the Estimates
accompanying the same be referred forthwith to the Committee of Supply.
The House according to Order, resolved itself into Committee of Supply.
(In the, Committee.'}
The Message of the Lieutenant-Governor, and the Estimates of certain sums required
for the service of the Province until the Estimates for the year 1877 are finally passed, having
been read,
Resolved, That a sum not exceeding three hundred and seventy-seven thousand five
hundred and thirty-six dollars and fifty-two cents ($377,536.52), be granted to Her Majesty
to defray the expenses of the Civil Government, and for other purposes (as mentioned in the
Statement accompanying the Message of the Lieutenant-Governor to this House, and annexed
hereto), from the first day of January, 1877, to the passing of the Appropriation Act for the
year 1877, and not exceeding the last day of March, 1877. Such expenditures to be confined
to the ordinary necessary payments for the different services to which they respectively relate,
and a detailed statement of such expenditures to be laid before the House before the second read-
ing of the Appropriation Act of 1877 ; and the details of the said several services to be included
in the detailed Estimates to be brought down to this House, as though this resolution had
not passed ; it being declared, that the expenditure under the head of " Public Works and
Buildings" shall, in all cases, be confined to lapsed appropriations for 1876.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair, and Mr. Clarke (Wellington}, reported, That the Com-
mittee had come to a Resolution ; and, That the Committee had directed him to ask for leave
to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received forthwith.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow,
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Mr. Hodgins, from the Committee of Supply, reported the following Resolution :—
Resolved, That a sum not exceeding three hundred and seventy-seven thousand five
hundred and thirty-six dollars and fifty-two cents ($377,536 52) be granted to Her Majesty
to defray the expenses of the Civil Government, and for other purposes (as mentioned in
the Statement accompanying the Message of the Lieuten ant-Governor to this House, and
annexed hereto), from the first day of January, 1877, to the passing of the Appropriation
Act for the year 1877, and not exceeding the last day of March, 1877. Such expenditures
to be confined to the ordinary necessary payments for the different services to which they
respectively relate, and a detailed statement of such expenditures to belaid before the f louse,
before the Second Reading of the Appropriation Act of 1877; and the details of the said
several services to be included in the detailed Estimates to be brought down to this House,
as though this Resolution had not passed ; it being declared that the expenditure under the
head of " Public Works and Buildings," shall, in all cases, be confined to lapsed appropria-
tions for 1876.
The Resolution, having been read the second time, was agreed to.
The House, according to Order, resolved itself into a Committee of Ways and Means.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That there be granted out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund of this Pro-
vince a sum not exci-eding three hundred and seventy-seven thousand five hundred and
thirty-six dollars and fifty-two cents ($377,536 52), to meet the Supply to that extent
granted to Her Majesty.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair, and Mr. Clarke (Wellington) reported, That the Com-
mittee had come to a Resolution ; also, That the Committee had directed him to ask for
leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received forthwith.
Resolved, That this House will again resolve itself into a Committee of Ways and
Means to-morrow.
Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), from the Committee of Ways and Means, reported the follow-
ing Resolution : — .
Resolved, That there be granted out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund of this Pro-
vince a sum not exceeding three hundred and seventy-seven thousand five hundred and
thirty-six dollars and fifty-two cents ($377,536 52), to meet the Supply to that extent
granted to Her Majesty.
The Resolution, having been read the second time, was agreed to.
On motion of Mr. Creighton, seconded by Mr. McGowan,
Order&d, That there be laid before this House, a Copy of the Contract under which the
Printing of this House, and of the Public Departments of the Province, is being performed ;
also, Copies of all Correspondence, Orders in Council, or other documents relating to an altera-
tion in the terms of said contract.
On motion of Mr. Lander, seconded by Mr. Bell,
Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to the Lieutenant-Governor praying
that he will cause to be laid before this House : a Return showing in detail all property come
to hands of the Ontario Government or any officer thereof representing the Crown, belonging
to the late Andrew Mercer, of Toronto, showing : —
1. Amount of personal estate, specifying of what the same consists.
2. Amount of real property, stating value, and where situated.
3. Amount realized for the sale or transfer of said property.
4. Amounts in detail paid out for law costs or other expenses, showing to whom paid
and on what authority.
5. A statement, showing where moneys and securities of said estate are now deposited,
and in whose custody.
The House then adjourned at 4.10 P.M.
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Wednesday, 10th January, 1877.
12.30 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Mr. Pardee — Two Petitions of the County Council of Lambton ;
also, the Petition of Robert Pollock and others, of Stephen ; also, the Petition of Asahel
Clark and others, of Bosanquet ; also, the Petition of John Doose and others, of McGillivray ;
also, the Petition of the Township Council of Bosanquet ; also, the Petition of the Canada
Company.
By the Honourable Mr. McDougall — The Petition of Mary Rose of West Gwillim-
bury ; also, two Petitions of the County Council of Simcoe.
By Mr. Deacon — The Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Petewawa ; also, the
Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Alice ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange
Lodge of Ross ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Westmeath ; also, the
Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Pembroke ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange
Lodge of Norton ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Stafford ; also, the
Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Ross ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge
of Bromley ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Douglas ; also, the Petition of
the Loyal Orange Lodge of Arnprior ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of
Admaston, No. 1043 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Admaston, No. 695 ;
also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Renfrew ; also, the Petition ot the Loyal
Orange Lodge of McN~ab ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Wilberforce ;
also, the Petition of Loyal Orange Lodge of Horton and Me Nab ; also, the Petition of the
Loyal Orange Lodge of Renfrew.
By Mr. Hodgins — The Petition of the St. Catharines' Street Railway Company.
By Mr. Deroche — The Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Canada ; also, the
Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Sheffield ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange
Lodge of Barrie ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Hamburgh • also, the
Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Fredericksburgh ; also, the Petition of the Loyal
Orange Lodge of North Addington.
By Mr. Clarke (Norfolk)— The Petition of the County Council of Norfolk.
By Mr. Tooley — The petition of the Village Council of Petersville ; also, the Petition
of the Village Council of London East.
By Mr. McGowan — The Petition of the Village Council of Arthur ; also, the Peti-
tion of the Village Council of Fergus.
By Mr. McDougall (Middlesex) — The Petition of the Village Council of Lucan.
By Mr. Paxton — The Petition of A. R. Pringle and others, of Ontario.
By Mr. Bethune — The Petition of Rowsell & Hutchinson, and others, of Toronto.
By. Mr. Wilson — The Petition of the Reverend Albert Carman of Belleville.
By Mr. Rar graft — The Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Cobourg, No. 52 ; also,
the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Cobourg,No. 108 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal
Orange Lodge of Alnwick ; also, the Petition of John McAllister and others, of Hamilton
Township. •
By Mr. Wills— The Petition of W. H. Pascoe and others, of Belleville ; also, the
Petition of the Town Council of Belleville.
By Mr. Grange — The Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of South Fredricksburg ;
also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Richmond ; also, the Petition of the Loyal
Orange Lodge of Lennox ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Richmond ;
also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Napanee.
By Mr. Ferris — The Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Nc>rthumberland ; also,
the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 670 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange
Lodge No. 180 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 620 ; all of Northum-^
berland ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Brighton ; also, the Petition of
the Loyal Orange Lodge of South Grey.
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By Mr. Haney — The Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 36 ; also, the Petition
of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 1363 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No.
554; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 1369 ; also, the Petition of the
Loyal Orange Lodge No. 1191 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 526 ;
also the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 419, all of Northumberland.
By Mr. Code — The Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of South Lanark ; also, the
Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Montague ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange
Lodge of Drummond ,- also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Beckwith ; also, the
Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 48 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge
No. 31 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 512 ; also, the Petition of the
Loyal Orange Lodge No. 705 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 190 ;
also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 206 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal
Orange Lodge No. 88 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 381, all of South
Lanark; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 778 ; also, the Petition of the
Loyal Orange Lodge No. 7, all of Drummond.
By Mr. Mostyn — The Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 1367 ; also, the Peti-
tion of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 748 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge
No. 529 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 448 ; also, the Petition of the
Loyal Orange Lodge No. 155 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange No 378 ; also, the
Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 473, all of North Lanark ; also, the Petition of
the Loyal Orange Lodge of Pakenham; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of
Carleton Place ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Lanark ; also, the Peti-
tion of the Loyal Orange Lodge of A or th Lanark.
By Mr. Preston — The Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Elizabethtown ; also,
the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 14 ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange
Lodge No. 22, all of Leeds.
By Mr. Boulter — The Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of North Hastings.
By Mr. O'Donoghue — Two Petitions of the City Council of Ottawa.
By Mr. Williams — The Petition of H. T. Crawford and others, of Hamilton ; also,
the Petition of the Rector and Churchwardens of Saint Mark's Church, Niagara.
By Mr. Merrick — The Petition of W. J. Parkhill and others ; also, the Petition of
the Loyal Orange District Lodge of Pickering ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange
County Lodge of Elgin ; also, of the Loyal Orange District Lodge of Seneca ; alsc , the
Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Malahide ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange
Lodge of Morris ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Mersea ; also, the Peti-
tion of the Loyal Orange Lodge of King ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge
of Greenock ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange of Goderich ; also, the Petition of
the Loyal Orange Lodge of Welland ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of
Euphemia ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Derry West ; also, the Peti-
tion of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Ekfrid ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge
of Blenheim ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Biddulph ; also, the Peti-
tion of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Albion ; also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge
of Adelaide', also, the Petition of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Walpole.
By Mr. Meredith — The Petition of Edward W. Harris and others, of London.
By Mr. GraJiam (LamUon) — The Petition of the Reverend A. Carman, of Belle-
ville.
By Mr. Bishop — The Petition of the Village Council of Wingham.
By Mr. Massie — The Petition of the Town Council of Guelph.
The following Petitions were received and read : —
Of the Toronto, Grey and Bruce Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass to
amend their Act of incorporation.
Of the Town Council of Orillia, praying that an act may pass to extend and define the
limits of the Town of Orillia.
Of the Lord Bishop of the Diocese of Ontario, praying that an Act may pass author-
izing the Rector and Church wardens of St. Paul's Church, Almonte, to mortgage the rectory
lands ; also, of the Executive Committee of the Synod of the Diocese of Ontario, to the
same effect.
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Of the Peel General Manufacturing Company, praying that an Act may pass to
amend their Act of incorporation.
Of the Honourable Frank Smith and others, of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass
to incorporate the Home Savings and Loan Company.
Of the Township Council of East Hawlcesbury, praying that the Bill to divide the
Township into two municipalities may not pass.
Of Reuben Ruse, and others, of Matilda, praying that an Act may pass to confirm a
certain survey in the Township of Matilda.
Of John Valentine, and others, of Toronto; also, of F. D.Thurison, and others, of Went-
worth ; also, of John Hyndman, and others, of Exeter ; also, of George Shirley, and others, of
Lambton, severally praying that an Act may pass to incorporate " Trinity Medical
School.
Of Messieurs Gooderham and Worts, and others, of Toronto ; also, of Messieurs Gordon,
McKay, and others, of Toronto ; also of the Town Council of Petrolia ; also of the Village
Council of Gananoque ; also of the Village Council of Yorkville ; also of the Village Council
of Brighton ; also of the Village Council of Stayner ; also of the Village Council of Elora ;
also, of the Village Council of Drayton ; also, of the Village Council of Clifford ; also, of
the County Council of Wentworth ; also, of the Town Council of Oakvitte ; also, of the Town
Council of Mitchell ; also, of the Town Council of St. Mary's; also, of the Town Council of
Goderich ; also, of the Town Council of Jlowmanville ; also, of the Town Council of
Amherstburgh ; also,. of the City Council of Kingston ; also, of the Town Council of St.
Thomas J also, of the Town Council of Cornwall ; also of the Village Council of Embro ;
also, of the Town Council of Woodstock; also, of the Town Council of Lindsay, severally pray-
ing for certain amendments to the Assessment Act respecting the Exemption clauses.
Of the Loyal Orange County Lodge of South Huron ; also, of the Loyal Orange
County Lodge of East Lambton ; also, of the Loyal Orange County Lodge of North Ontario ;
also, of the Loyal Orange County Lodge of South Ontario ; also, of the Loyal Orange
County Lodge of West Lambton ; also, of the Loyal Orange County Lodge of froulh Perth ;
also, of the Loyal Orange District Lodge of Mulmur ; also, of the Loyal Orange District
Lodge of Bosanquet ; also, of the Loyal Orange District Lodge of Wellandport ; also, of the
Loyal Orange District Lodge of Arthur ; also, of the 'Loyal Orange District Lodge of
Walter's Falls ; also, of the Provincial Grand Lodge of Western Ontario, severally praying
that an Act may pass to incorporate the Loyal Orange Association of Ontario East and
West.
The Honourable Attorney-General Moivat delivered to Mr. Speaker a Message from
the Lieuteriant-Governor, signed by himself, and the Messa,ge was read by Mr. Speaker,
and is as follows : —
D. A. MACDONAUX
Mr. Speaker and Gentlemen of the Legislative Assembly : —
I thank you for the Address you have passed in answer to the Speech with which I
'have opened the Session, and am well assured you will give full and careful considera-
tion to the various measures which will come before you.
Government House,
Toronto, 10th January, 1877.
Mr. Sinclair moved, seconded by Mr. Finlayson,
That an Order of the House do* issue for a Return showing the number of Bills in
Chancery filed, and the number of Writs of Summonses issued, by the Clerks of the
Superior and County Courts, from the 1st of January, 1876, to the 1st of January, 1877,
and the number of defendants in each case. Also, the number of Office Copies of Bills in
Chancery and Writs of Summonses received by Sheriffs from the 1st of January, 1876. to
22 10TH AND llTH JANUARY. 1877.
the 1st of January, 1877, and the number of defendants served by them during that
period.
Mr. Meredith moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Scott,
That the following words be added to the Motion : — " Also the cases, if any, in
which fees for service of process have been taxed where service has not been effected by
the Sheriff; and also, the fees paid to the Sheriff for service of process in each case."
And, a debate having arisen, the Motion was, by leave of the House, withdrawn.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
Detailed Statement of all Bonds and Securities recorded in the Provincial Registrar's
Office since the last Return, submitted to the Legislative Assembly upon the 10th Decem-
ber, 1875, made in accordance with the provisions of Statute of Ontario, 32 Vic. cap. 29. —
(Sessional Papers, No. 19.)
The House then adjourned at 2.30 p in
Thursday, llth January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Mr. Wood — The Petition of B. V. Jewett and others, of Lindsay ;
also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Lindsay ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of
Verulam ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Emily; also, Petition of Orange Lodge
No. 114; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,324; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 664; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 557 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 510 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 510 ; also the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 855 ; all of Victoria.
By the Honourable Mr. McDougall — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Mansfield ;
also, The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Whitfield ; also, the Petition of the Orange
Lodge of Mansfield ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Creemore ; also, the Petition
of the Orange Lodge of Whitfield ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Honeywood.
By Mr. Widdifield—Thv Petition of the Bishop of the Diocese of Toronto.
By Mr. Paxton — The Petition of Whitby and Port Perry Extension Railway Company.
By Mr. Clarke (Norfolk] — The Petition of the Stratford and Huron Railway Com-
pany.
By Mr. Code— The Petition of the High School Board of Garleton Place.
By Mr. fiobinson — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Sunbury ; also the Petition
of Orange Lodge, No. 1,001 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 912 ; also the Petition
of Orange Lodge, No. 674 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge. No. 641 ; also the Petition
of Orange Lodge, No. 709 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 336 ; also the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 365 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1034 ; also the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 1,032 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 958 ; also the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge, No. 841 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 481 ; also the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 316 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,332 ; also the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 834 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 834 ; also the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 325, all of Frontenac. Also the Petition of the Orange
Lodge of Kingston ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 2 ; also the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 577 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 744 ; also the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 291 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 352 ; also the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 527 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 11, all of South Frontenac.
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By Mr. Merrick — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Brantford ; also, the Petition
of the Orange Lodge of Burford ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Cheapside ;
also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Jarvis ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of
Haldimand ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Erie ; also, the Petition of the
Orange Lodge of Hullsville ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Leeds ; also, the
Petition of the Orange Lodge of North Leeds ; also, the^ Petition of the Orange Lodge of
Augmta ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Wolford ; also, the Petition of the
Orange Lodge of Oxford ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Wolford ; also, the
Petition of the Orange Lodge of Oxford ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Marl-
borough ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Oxford ; also, the Petition of the Orange
Lodge of Wolford', also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Kemptvillo • also, the Petition
of the Orange Lodge of Merrickville.
By Mr. Scott— The Petition of the Orange Lodge No. 122 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 484 ;also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,316 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 453 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,385 ; all of Peter-
borough ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Lakefield ; also, the Petition of the Orange
Lodge of West Peterborough ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Peterborough.
By Mr. Bishop — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Holmesville ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge of Brenton Mills ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Devon ; also,
the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Exeter ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Elm-
By Mr. Bell— The Petition of H. P. P. A. Dashwood and others, of York.
By Mr. Kean — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Orillia ; also, the Petition of
the Orange Lodge of Cold Water.
By Mr. Richardson — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Port Dover ; also, the Peti-
tion of the Orange Lodge of Victoria \ also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Lynedoch ;
also the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Norfolk.
By Mr. Wigle — The Petition of George Russell and others, of Essex.
By Mr. Brown — The Petition of the Township Council of Pickering ; also, the Petition
of R. S. Campbell and others, of Whitby.
By Mr. Hargraft — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Cobourg ; also, the Petition
of the Town Council of Cobourg.
By Mr. Monk — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Ottawa ; also, the Petition of
the Orange Lodge of March and Huntley ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Ot-
tawa ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Carleton ; also, the Petition of the
County Council of Carleton.
By Mr. Cole — The Petition of the Town Council of Brockville ; also, the Petition of
the Orange Lodge of Chatham.
By Mr. Striker — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Port Perry ; also, the Petition
of the Orange Lodge of Northport ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge, No. 488 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge, No. 893, all of Prince Edward ; also, the Petition of the
Orange Lodge of Prince Edward.
By Mr. Bethune — The Petition of the incorporated Synod of the Diocese of Ontario.
By Mr. Wells — The Petition of the County Council of Hastings.
By Mr. McGowan — The Petition of George A. Drew and others, of Wellington.
By Mr. Long — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Barrie ; also, the Petition of
the Orange Lodge of Allandale ; also the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Nevis ; also,
the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Collingwood ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge
of Stayner ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Creemore ; also, the Petition of the
Orange Lodge of Dun Eden ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Duntroon ; also,
the Petition of William Purvis and others, of Simcoe.
The following Petitions were severally received and read :— -
On the Toronto House Building Association, praying that an Act may pass to change
their corporate name to that of the Toronto Loan aud Land Company, and for amendments to
their Act of incorporation.
Of the High School Board of Wardsville, praying for certain amendments to the School
law.
24 HTH JANUARY. 1877.
Of the County Council of Victoria, praying for certain amendments to the Ontario
Medical Act.
Of the Trustees of the Presbyterian Congregation of Orillia, praying that an Act may
pass to remove the dead from certain lands, and for power to sell said lands.
Of the Town Council of Dundas, praying that an Act may pass to enable them to
exempt a certain factory from taxation.
Of the Town Council of Barrie, praying that an Act may pass to legalize By-law No.
266 of that Town.
Of S. Labrasse and others, of East Hawkesbury, praying that the Bill to disunite East
Hawkesbury may not pass.
Of the Village Council of Kemptville ; also, of the Village Council of Port Elgin ; also,
of the Village Council of Southampton ; also, of the Village Council of Wellington ; also, of
the Town Council of Brantford ; also, of the Village Council of Renfrew ; also, of the Vil-
lage Council of Wroxeter ; also, of the Village Council of Lanark ; also, of the Village Coun-
cil of Wyoming ; also, of the Village Council of Portsmouth ; also, of the Village Council of
Georgetown ; also, of the Village Council of Uxbridge ; also, of the Village Council of Grims-
by ; also, of the Village Council of New Hamburgh ; also, of the Village Council of Preston;
also, of the Village Council of Hespeler ; also, of the County Council of the United Counties
of Lennox and Addington ; also, of the Village Council of Port Dalhousie ; also, of the Vil-
lage Council of Welland; also, of the Village Council of Ghippewa; also, of the Village
Council of Port Colborne ; also, of the Village Council of Blenheim; also, of the Village
Council of Aurora; also, of the Village Council of Ashburnham; also, of the Village Coun-
cil of Edinburgh ; also, of the Village Council of Penetanguishene ; also, of the Town Coun-
cil of Collingwood ; also, of the Town Council of Picton ; also, of the Town Council of Sim-
coe ; also, of the Town Council of Kincardine; also, ef the Town Council of Walkerton; also,
of the Town Council of Orillia; also, of the Town Council of Barrie; also, of the Town
Council of Thorold ; also, of the Town Council of Brampton ; also, of the Town Council of
Seaforth; also, of the Town Council of Port Hope ; also, of the City Council of London; also,
of the County Council of Brant ; also, of the County Council of the United Counties of Len-
nox and Addington, severally praying for certain amendments to the Municipal and Assess-
ment Acts, with respect to the Exemption clauses.
Of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Brant ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Haldimand ;
also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Essex ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Union ; also of
Loyal Orange Lodge of Stratford , also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of St. Marys ; also, of
the Loyal Orange Lodge of Scott and Uxbridge ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Whitby ;
also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Wellandport District ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of
North Ridge ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Mosa ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of
Mono ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Norfolk ; severally praying that an Act may pass
to incorporate the Loyal Orange Association of Ontario East and West.
Of A. E. Vrooman and others, of Victoria ; also, of A. J. Sinclair and others, of Brant;
also, of Alexander Eraser, and others, of Elgin; also, of James Crawford and others, ofSim-
coe ; also, of W. J. Harris and others, of Brant ; also, of R. C. Smyth and others, of Brant ;
als ; cl //. b. (j ok and others, of Welland ; also, of/. W. Schooley and others, of Welland,
severally praying that an Act may pass to incorporate Trinity Medical School.
Mr. Deroche, from the Committee on Standing Orders, presented their First Report,
which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined the following Petitions, and find that the Rules of the
House have been complied with therein : —
Of the Rector and Churchwardens of the Church of St. Alban the Martyr, Ottawa,
praying that an Act may pass authorizing them to mortgage certain church property in
the City of Ottawa.
Of the Right Reverend P. F. Crinnon, Roman Catholic Bishop of Hamilton, praying
that an Act may pass to amend a certain Act of the Parliament of the late Province of
Canada, and to incorporate the Roman Catholic Episcopal Corporation of the Diocese of
Hamilton.
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Of Edward M. Hodder and others, of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass to incor-
porate the Trinity School of Medicine.
Of the Municipal Corporation of the Town of Orillia, praying that an Act may pass
to extend and define the limits of the said Town of Orillia.
Of the Toronto, Grey and Bruce Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass to
amend their Charter.
Of the Honourable Frank Smith and others, of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass
to incorporate the Home Savings and Loan Company.
Of the Rector and Churchwardens of Si. John's Church, Iroquois, praying that an Act
may pass authorizing them to mortgage certain church lands, and for other purposes.
Of Reuben Rase and others, of Matilda, praying that an Act may pass to confirm a
certain survey in the Township of Matilda.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of the Port Dover and Lake Huron Rail-
way Company, praying that an Act may pass to amend their Charter, and find that a
clause therein relating to the shortening of publication of the notice in the Ontario Gazette,
and the local papers for the calling of the Special General Annual Meeting of the Share-
holders, is not covered by the notices furnished to the Committee. The Committee how-
ever, beg leave to report the said Petition ; at the same time calling the attention of the
Railway Committee to the foregoing.
The Committee recommend that so much of Rule No. 51 of Your Honourable House
as relates to the reception of Petitions for Private Bills be suspended during the present
Session, and that the time limited for the reception of such Petitions be extended until
Tuesday, the 16th instant, inclusive.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 22), intituled " An Act respecting the Roman Catholic Episcopal Corporation
of the Diocese of Hamilton." — Mr. Williams.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 36), intituled " An Act respecting the Church of St. Alban the Martyr, in
Ottawa" — Mr. Hodgins.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 51), intituled " An Act to incorporate the Home Savings and Loan Company,
Limited."— Mr. Bell.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 73), intituled "An Act to amend the Act respecting Dentistry. " — Mr.
Boulter.
Ordered, — That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 74), intituled " An Act to amend the Free Grants and Homestead Act."-
Mr. Miller.
Ordered, — That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 75), intituled " An Act to extend the Franchise for Municipal purposes in
Cities and Towns."— Mr. Bethune.
Ordered, — That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
The following Bill was read the second time : —
Bill (No. 80), For the encouragement of Agriculture, Horticulture, Arts and Manu-
factures.
Referred to a Select Committee composed as follows : — The Honourable Mr. Wood,
Messieurs Ballantyne, Bishop, Boulter, Clarke (Wellington), Gibson, Graham (Lambtori), Hay,
Merrick, Mostyn, Sexton, Sinclair, Springer, Richardson, Rosevear, Hardy, and Lyon.
On motion of Mr. Lander, seconded by Mr. Meredith,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House Copies of all correspondence under
the control of the Government relating to the Appointment of the Superintendent of the
Orillia Asylum.
26 llTH AND 12TH JANUARY. 1877.
On motion of Mr. Lander, seconded by Mr. Meredith.
Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to the Lieutenant-Governor, praying
that he will cause to be laid before this House, Copies of the Eeports made by the Pro-
vincial Secretary and the Inspector of Asylums, regarding the internal management of
the Central Prison, as the result of any investigation by them, together with a copy of
the evidence taken on the investigation.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor :—
The draft of the Revised Statutes of Ontario, together with the Third Eeport of the
Commissioners for Consolidating the Statutes. (Sessional Papers, No. 20.)
The House then adjourned at 4.10 P.M.
Friday, 12th January, 1877
3 O'CLOJK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat — The Petition of the Board of Directors
of the Upper Canada Bible Society ; also, the Petition of the Woodstock Canadian Literary
Institute.
By the Honourable Mr. Cameron — Two Petitions of the City Council of Toronto ; also,
the Petition of Robert Jaffray and others, of Toronto ; also, the Petition of George Smith and
others, of Toronto ; also, the petition of the Honourable William Pearce Hoivland.
By the Honourable Mr. McDougcdl — The Petition of the Town Council of Niagara ; also,
the Petition of the City Council of St. Catharines; also, the Petition of Henry Tafford, of St.
Catharines ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 86 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge
No. 125 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 354 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge
No. 465 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,083 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge
No. 1,196 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 607 ; all of South Simcoe.
By the Honourable Mr. Currie — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of M arshville.
By Mr. Bell — Five Petitions of the City Council of Toronto ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge, No. 929 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 657 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 657; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 387 ; also, the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge No. 588; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 140; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No, 215 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 711 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 551 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 342; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 479 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 675 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 127 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 136 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 301 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 212 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 375 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 821 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. Ill ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 781, all of
Toronto ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Centre Toronto ; also, the Petition of
the Orange Lodge of East Toronto ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of West Toronto;
also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Toronto.
By Mr. McLeod — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 405 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 640 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 640 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 74 : also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 276 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 276 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 408 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 43 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 43 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 1073 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 764 ; also, the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge No. 915 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 311 ; also, the
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Petition of Orange Lodge No. 133 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 399 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 265 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No, 265 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 201, all of Durham ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge
of West Durham ; also, thefPetition of the Orange' Lodge of Clarke; also, the Petition of
the Orange Lodge of Cartwright ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Darlington.
By Mr. Lander — The Petition of the Township Council of Proton; also, the Peti-
tion of the Township Council of Euphrasia ; also, the Petition of the Township Council
of Collingwood; also, the Petition of the Township Council of Holland; also, the Petition
of the Township Council of Artemesia ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Proton ;
also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Dundalk.
By Mr. McCraney — The Petition of the Bothwell Land and Petroleum Company.
By Mr. Flesher — The Petition of the Township Council of Caledon.
By. Mr. Ballantyne — The Petition of the Town Council of Stratford; also, the Peti-
tion of William Davidson and others, of Perth.
By Mr. Dawson — The Petition of Hugh Wilson and others, of Shuniah.
By Mr. Ferris — The Petition of /. E. Dailey and others, of Colborne.
By Mr. Robinson — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 6, of Kingston.
By Mr. Coutts — The Petition of Robert Gumming and others ; also, the Petition of
J. B. Newman and others, all of Kent ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Oxford.
By Mr. Monk — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 47 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 119; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 119; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 126 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 221, all of Ottawa.
By Mr. Creighton— The Petition of the Towship Council of Derby ; also, the Peti-
tion of the Township Council of Egremont; also, the Petition of the Township Council of
Sarawak; also, the Petition of the Township Council of Sullivan; also, the Petition of the
Town Council of Owen Sound; also, the Petition of the Township Council of Keppel; also,
the Petition of the Township Council of Sydenham; also, the Petition of the Town
Council of Meaford; also, the Petition of the Township Council of St. Vincent; also, the
Petition of the County Council of Grey ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 576 ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 198, all of Grey ; also, the Petition of the Orange
Lodge of St. Vincent.
By Mr. Wills— The Petition of Mary Ann 0' Carroll, of Belleville ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 838 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 836 ; also, the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge No. 747; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 727 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 131 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 94 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 2, all of South Hastings.
By Mr. Barr — The" Petition of the Township Council of Melancthon.
By Mr. Fleming — The Petition of the County Council of Waterloo.
By Mr. Scott- -The petition of F. S. Menzies and others, of Peterborough; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 49; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,072; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 457 ; all of Peterborough.
By Mr. Long — The Petition of W. W. Colwell and others, of Toronto.
By Mr. Richardson — The Petition of the School Board of Port Rowan.
By Mr. Springer — The Petition of the County Council of Waterloo.
By Mr. Rosevear — The Petition of James Baird and others, of Port Hope.
By Mr. Merrick — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Merritton ; also, the Petition of
tht Orange Lodge of Essex ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Augusta,- also, the
Petition of the Orange Lodge of Beamsville ; also, the petition of the Orange Lodge of Ox-
ford ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Wolford ; also, the Petition of the Orange
Lodge of Grenville ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of South Gower ; also, the Peti-
the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Grenville.
By Mr. Williams— The Petition of the Rector and Churchwardens of St. PauVs Church,
Mount Forest.
By Mr. Sinclair — The Petition of the Village Council of Port Elgin.
By Mr. Deacon — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 340 of Renfrew ; also, the Petition
of the Orange Lodge of Westmeath.
By Mr. Appleby— The Petition of the Village Council of Mill Point.
By Mr. Patterson (Essex)— The Petition of the Town Council of Windsor.
28 12TH JANUARY. 1877.
By Mr. Boulter— The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Elian Gowan ; also, the Petition
of the Orange Lodge of Dunkeld ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Pinkerton ; also,
the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Malcolm ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of
Gretnock.
By Mr. Hunter — The Petition of the TownJCouncil of Durham ; also, the Petition of
Archibald Hunter and others, of Grey.
By Mr. Brown — The Petition of the Pickering Harbour and Road Joint Stock Company.
By Mr. Williams — The Petition of the Hamilton and North- *V estern Railway Company.
The following Petitions were received and read : —
Of the County Council of Lambton, praying for the establishment of a Drainage
Fund.
Of Robert Pollock and others, of Stephen; also, of Asupel Clarke and others, of Bos-
anquet ; also, of John Doose and others, of McGillivray ; also, of the Canada Company ;
also, of the Township Council of Bosanquet, severally praying that an Act may pass to
confirm and legalize a new survey in the Townships of Bosanquet and McGillivray.
Of John McAllister, of Hamilton Township, praying that an Act may pass authoriz-
ing B. McAllister to convey to D. McAllister lot No. 21, on the south 'side of William
Street, in the Town of Cobourg, and for other purposes.
Of the Rector and Churchwardens of St. Mark's Church, Niagara, praying that an
Act may pass to enable them to sell certain lands.
Of the St. Catharine's Street Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass to ex-
tend the time for building their road.
Of the City Council of Ottawa, praying that an Act may pass to amend their Water
Works Act.
Of the City Council of Ottawa, praying that an Act may pass to enable them to
change the names of certain streets.
Of the Town Council of Belleville, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the
City of Belleville.
Of H. T. Crawford and others, of Hamilton, praying that an Act may pass to incor-
porate the Standard Fire and Marine Insurance Company.
Of the County Council of Lambton, praying for certain amendments to the Ontario
Medical Act.
Of the County Council of Norfolk, respecting the distribution of the Municipal Loan
Fund.
Of the County Council of Simcoe, praying that the Assessment Act may be so amend-
ed that there be no Exemptions whatever.
Of Rowsell and Hutchinson, and others, of Toronto, praying for the abolition of the
Educational Book Depository.
Of Edward William Harris and others, of London, praying that an Act may pass to
incorporate the London Real Estate Association.
Of the Reverend A Carman, of Belleville, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate
the Alma College tit. Ihomas.
Of the Reverend A. Carman, of Belleville, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate
the Methodist Episcopal Church in Canada.
Of A. R. Pringle and others, of Ontario ; also, of Wm. H. Pascoe, and others, severally
praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the Trinity Medical School.
Of the Village Council of Arthur ; also, of the Village Council of London East ; also,
of the Village Council of Petersville ; also, of the Village Council of Lucan ; also, of the
Village Council of Fergus ; also, of the Town Council of Guelph ; also, of the Village Council
of Wingham, severally praying for certain amendments to the Assessment Act with respect to
the Exemption Clauses.
Of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Petewawa ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Alice ;
also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Rosa ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of JPestmeath ;
also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Pembroke ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Horton ;
also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Stafford ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Ross ;
also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Bromley ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Douglas ;
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also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Arnprior ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Admo^-
ton, No. 1043 ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Admaston, No. 695 ; als>, of the Loyal
Orange Lodge of Renfreiv ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of McNab ; also, of the Loyal
Orange Lodge of Wilber/orce ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Horton and McNabb ;
also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Renfrew; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of
Canada ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Sheffield ; also, of the Loyal Orange
Lodge of Barrie ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Hamburg ; also, of the Loyal
Orange Lodge of Fredericksburg ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of North Adding-
ton ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Cobourg, No. 52 ; also, of the Loyal Orange
Lodge of Cobourg, No. 108 ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Alnwick ; also,
of the Loyal Orange Lodge of South Fredericksburg ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge
of Richmond ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Lennox; also, of the Loyal Orange of
Richmond ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Napanee ; also, of the Loyal Orange
Lodge of Northumberland ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge, No. 670 ; also of the Loyal
Orange Lodge No. 180; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 620; all of Northmnber-
land ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Brighton ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of
South Grey ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 36 ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge
No. 1363 ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 554 ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge
No. 1369 ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 1191 ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge
No. 526 : also of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 419, all of Northumberland ; also, of the
Loyal Orange Lodge of South Lanark; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Montague ; also,
of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Drummond; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Beckwith ;
also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 48 ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 31 ; also, of
the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 512 ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 705 ; also, of the
Loyal Orange Lodge No. 190 ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 206 ; also, of the
Loyal Orange Lodge No. 88 ; also of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 381, all of South
Lanark; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 778 ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge No.
7, all of Drummond', also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 1367; also, of the Loyal
Orange Lodge No. 748 : also of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 529 ; also of the Loyal
Orange Lodge No. 448 ; also of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 155 ; also, of the Loyal
Orange Lodge No. 378 ; also of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 473, all of North Lanark ;
also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Pakenham ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Carle-
ton Place; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Lanark; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge
of North Lanark ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Elizabethtown ; also, of the Loyal
Orange Lodge No. 14 ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge No. 22, all ot Leeds ; also, of the
Loyal Orange Lodge of North Hastings ; also, of W, J. Parkhill and others ; also, of the
Loyal Orange District Lodge of Pickering: also, of the Loyal Orange County Lodge of El-
gin ; also, of the Loyal Orange District Lodge of Seneca ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge
of Malahide ; also of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Morris ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge
of Mersea; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of K<ng ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge
of Greenock ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Goderich ; also, of the Loyal Orange
Lodge of Welland ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Euphemia ; also, of the Loyal
Lodge of Derry West ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Ekfrid ; also, of the Loyal
Orange Lodge of Blenheim ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Biddulph ; also, of the
Loyal Orange Lodge of Albion ; also, of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Adelaide ; also, of the
Loyal Orange Lodge of Walpole ; severally praying that an Act may pass to incorporate
the Loyal Orange Associations of Ontario East arid West.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Wood,
Ordered, That the time for receiving Petitions for Private Bills be extended until Tues-
day, the sixteenth instant, as recommended by the Standing Orders Committee.
The following Bills were severally introduced, and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 7), intituled u An Act to extend and define the limits of the Town of Orilim"
' — Mr. Kean.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
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Bill (No. 81), intituled "An Act to facilitate the formation of Joint Stock Companies
for the Manufacturing of Butter, Cheese and other Dairy Products." — Mr. Witts.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 28), intituled, " An Act respecting the Port Dover and Lake Huron Rail-
way Company." — Mr. Clarke (Norfolk).
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 77), intituled, " An Act to extend the Voters' Lists Act to Municipal Elec-
tions."— The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 78), intituled, " An Act to prevent Betting or Wagering on Elections
for Members of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario." — The Honourable Mr. Currie.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Tuesday next.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Cameron,
Resolved, That, as a mark of respect for the memory of the late Peter Graham, Esquire,
Member for the County of Frontenac, this House do now adjourn.
The House then adjourned at 3.45 P. M.
Monday, 15th January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
Mr. Speaker presented to the House : —
Annual Statement of business of the London Life Insurance Company, (Sessional Papers,
No. 21).
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Mr. Crooks — The Petition of the School Board of Kemptvile ;
also, the Petition of the School Board of Markham ; also, the Petition of the School
Board of Prescott ; also the Petition of the School Board of Renfrew ; also, the Petition
of the School Board of Drummondville ; also, the Petition of the School Board of Pem-
broke ; also the Petition of the Town Council of Ingersoll ; also, the Petition of the Vil-
lage Council of Norwich ; also the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Culloden ; also the
Petition of the Orange Lodge of Blenheim ; also the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Til-
sonburgh ; also the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Oxford ; also, the Petition of the
Orange Lodge of Ingersoll.
By Mr. Boulter — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Haliburton ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 199 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 468; also, the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge No. 975 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,109 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,110 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,163 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,278; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,287 ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,357 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No.
1,406 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,412, all of Haliburton ; also, the Petition
of the Orange Lodge of Chippewa ; also the Petition of the Orange Lodge of
Port Robinson; also the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Stevensville ; also, the Petition of
the Orange Lodge of Drummondville. ; also the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Dunnvitte ;
also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Fenwick; also, the Petition of the Orange
Lodge of Port Colborne ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Allanburgh.
By Mr. Preston— The Petition of the Village Council of Neivboro'.
By Mr. Coutts — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Blenheim ; also, the Petition of
the Township Council of Chatham.
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By Mr. Monk — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of March ; also, the Petition of
the Orange Lodge of Huntley ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge No. 43, of Huntley ;
also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of North Gower.
By Mr. McRae — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,410 • also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 1,404 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,318 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 1,311 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 996 ; also, the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge No. 952 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 820 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 539 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 294 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 120; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 96 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 41 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 32 ; all of
Victoria.
By Mr, Ross — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Hullett ; also, the Petition of the
Orange Lodge of Goderich ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Blyth ; also, the Pe-
tition of the Orange Lodge No. 793, of Blyth ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of
Port Albert ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge No. 1,388 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 1,343, of South Huron • also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of God-
erich ; also, the Petition of R. Glendenning and others, of Goderich.
By *Mr. Merrick — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 194 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 511 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 26; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 100 • also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 27, all of South Leeds ;
also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Gananoque ; also, the Petition of the Orange
Lodge of Escott ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of South Leeds ; also the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 49 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 47 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 87 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 90 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge-No. 225 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 289 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 42 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 127 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 650 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 2, all of North Leeds.
By Mr. Graham — The Petition of the Orange Lodge No. 626 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 998 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 819 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 514 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 830 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 536; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 9 11, all of East
Lambton.
By Mr. Widdifield — The Petition of /. Burns and others, of Toronto.
By Mr. McGowan — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 255 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 681, all of Arthur ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Rorthsay.
By Mr. Hardy — The Petition of Andrew Hudson and others, of Brantford.
By Mr. Richardson — The Petition of the Orange Lodge Norfolk ; also, the Petition
of the Orange Lodge of Waterford ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Courtland ;
also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Houghton.
By Mr. Bell — The Petition of William Lacy and others, of Toronto.
By Mr. Lander — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Petrolia ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 969 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 261 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No 65 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 106 ; all of Northumber-
land; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 823 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge
No. 360 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,274 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge
No, 1,323 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,108, all of Brant.
By Mr. Deacon— The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1267 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 1,172 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,102 ; also,the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 341, all of Lincoln; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 161 ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 171 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 29 ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 283 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 895 ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 876, all of Haldimand.
By Mr. Chisholm — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 604 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 63 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 61 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 1,020 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,174 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 1,027 : also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 263 ; also, the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge No. 708 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 249 ; also, the
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Petition of Orange Lodge No. 157 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 76 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 5, all of Peel.
By Mr. Gibson. — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 863 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 459, all of Huron.
By Mr. Sinclair. — Two Petitions of the County Council of Bruce.
By Mr. O'Bonoghue. — The Petition of /. Durie and others, of Ottawa.
By Mr. Dawson. — The Petition of John Leys and others, of Sault Ste. Marie.
By Mr. Massie — The Petition of the Guelph Street Railway Company.
The following Petitions were received and read : —
Of the Stratford and Huron Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass to
amend their Act of Incorporation.
Of the Whitby and Port Perry Extension Railway Company, praying that an Act may
pass to amend their Act of Incorporation.
Of the School Board of Carleton Place, praying for certain amendments to the High
School Act.
Of the Right Reverend the Bishop of Toronto, and others, praying that an Act may
pass to authorize them to sell certain lands for the benefit of St. Paul's Church, Newmarket.
Of George Russell and others, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the Leam-
ington, Cornier and Lake St. Glair Railway Company.
Of the Incorporated Synod of the Diocese of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass
to enable them to conduct inquiries upon oath.
Of the Town Council of Cobourg, praying that an Act may pass to enable them to
grant Bonuses to certain Manufactories.
Of the Canadian Literary Institute of Woodstock, praying that an Act may pass to
amend their Act of Incorporation, and to authorize them to mortgage certain property.
Of the Upper Canada Bible Society, praying that an Act may pass to amend their Act
of Incorporation.
Of the City Council of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass to legalize a By-law
authorizing the issue of Debentures.
Of the City Council of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass respecting the Toronto
Street Railway.
Of IV. P. Howland and others, of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate
the Canadian Industrial Exhibition Company.
Of Robert Jaffray and others, of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate
the Metropolitan Street Railway Company of Toronto.
Of Henry Paffard and others, of Niagara ; also, of the Town Council of Niagara ; also,
of the City Council of St. Catharines, severally praying that an Act may pass to incorpo-
rate the Niagara and St. Catharines Railway Company.
Of the Town Council of Windsor, praying that an Act may pass to legalize a By-law
for the issue of Debentures.
Of the County Council of Waterloo, praying for certain amendments to the Ontario
Medical Act.
Of J. B. Newman and others, of Chatham ; also, of Robert Gumming and others, sever-
ally praying for certain amendments to the Drainage Act.
Of the Pickering Harbour and Road Company, praying that an Act may pass to
authorize them to issue Debentures.
Of the Right Reverend the Bishop of Niagara and others, praying that an Act may
pass to authorize them to sell certain lands for the benefit of St. Paul's Church, Mount
Forest.
Of the High School Board of Port Rowan, praying for certain amendments to the
School Act.
Of the Village Council of Port Elgin, praying that an Act may pass to authorize them
to sell certain lands.
Of W. W. Colwell and others, praying that an Act may pass to alter the survey of
certain lots in the Town of Collingwood.
Of B. V. Jewett and others, of Lindsay ; also, of R. S. Campbell and others, of Whitby ;
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also, of the County Council of Carleton ; also, of the County Council of Hastings ; also, of
the Town Council of Brockville ; also, of the Township Council of Pickering ; also, of
G-ewge Smith and others, of Toronto ; also, of the Town Council of Stratford ; also, of the
Village Council of Mill Point ; also, of the City Council of Toronto ; also, of the County
Council of Waterloo, severally praying for certain amendments to the Assessment Act with
respect to the Exemption clauses.
Of the City Council of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass to amend the Act in-
corporating the Toronto Water Works Commission.
Three petitions of the City Council of Toronto, severally praying for certain amend-
ment to the Municipal Act with respect to Polling-places, Roadways and the election of
Mayors and Aldermen.
Of Huyh Wilson and others, of Shuniah, praying that an Act may pass to amend the
Act organizing the Municipality of Shuniah.
Of the Hamilton and. North-Western Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass
to amend their Act of Incorporation, and to make valid certain By-laws granting aid to
said Railway.
Of the County Council of Grey ; also, of the Township Council of Derby ; also, of the
Town Council of Owen Sound; also, of the Township Council of St. Vincent; also, of the
Town Council of Meaford; also, of the Township Council of Sarawak ; also, of the Town-
ship Council of Sydenham ; also, of the Township Council of Egremont ; also, of the Town-
ship Council of Keppel \ also, of the Township Council of Sullivan ; also, of the Township
Council of Melancthon ; also, of the Township Council of Holland ; also, of the Township
Council of Collingivood ; also, of the Township Council of Proton ; also, of the Township
Council of Euphrasia ; also, of the Township Council of Artemesia, severally praying that
an Act may pass to reunite the North and South Ridings of Grey for Registration purposes.
Of the Town Council of Durham ; also, of Archibald Hunter and others of drey, seve-
rally praying that the Bill to re-unite the North and South Ridings of Gh-ey for registra-
tion purposes may not pass.
Of the Township Council of Caledon, praying that an Act may pass to confirm a
survey.
Of William Davidson and others, of Perth ; also, of William Purvis and others, of
York ; also, of H. P. P. A. Dashwood and others, of Toronto ; also, of George A. Drew and
others, of Wellington, severally praying that an Act may pass to incorporate Trinity Medi-
cal School.
Of Joseph Menzies and others, of Peterborough ; also, of /. E. Dtiley and others, of
Northumberland ; also, of James Baird and others, of Port Hope, severally praying that the
Book Depository may be abolished.
Of the Orange Lodge of Lindsay ; also, of Orange Lodge of Vzrulam ; also, of Orange
Lodge of Emily ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 114 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,324 ; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 664 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 557 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 510 ;
also of Orange Lodge No. 510 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 855, all of Victoria ; also, of
the Orange Lodge of Mansfield; also, of the Orange Lodge of Whitfield ; also, of the
Orange Lodge of Mansfield ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Creemore ; also, of the Orange
Lodge of Whitfield ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Honeywood ; also, of the Orange Lodge
of Sunbury ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,001 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 912 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 674 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 641 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 709 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 336 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 365 ; also of Orange Lodge
No. 1,034 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 1,032 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 958 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 841 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 481 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 316 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,332 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 834 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 834 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 325 ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Kingston ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 2 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 577 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 744 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 291 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 352 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 527 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 11, all of South Frontenac ; also, of the Orange Lodge
of Brantford ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Burford ; also of the Orange Lodge of Cheap-
side ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Jarvis ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Haldimand ; also,
of the Orange Lodge of Erie ; also, of the Orange Lodge of HullsvUle ; also, of the Orange
Lodge of Leeds ; also, of the Orange Lodge of North Leeds ; also, of the Orange Lodge of
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Augusta; also, of the Orange Lodge of Wolford ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Oxford;
also, of the Orange Lodge of Wolford; also, of the Orange Lodge of Oxford; also, of the
OrangeLodge ofMarlborough; also, of the Orange Lodge of Oxford ; also, of the Orange Lodge
of Wolford; also, of the Orange Lodge KemptmUe } also, of the Orange Lodge of Merrickville ;
also, of the Orange Lodge No. 122 ; also, Orange Lodge No. 484 ; also, of Orange Lodge,
No. 1,316 , also, of Orange Lodge, 453 ; also, of Orange Lodge, 1,385, all of Peterborough ;
also, of Orange Lodge of Lakefield ; also, of the Orange Lodge of West Peterborough ;
also of the Orange Lodge of Peterborough ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Holmesville ; also,
of the Orange Lodge of Brenton Mills ; also of the Orange Lodge of Devon ; also, of the
Orange Lodge of Exeter ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Elmville ; also, of the Orange
Lodge of Orillia ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Cold Water ; also, of the Orange Lodge of
Port Dover ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Victoria ; also, of Orange Lodge of Lynedoch ;
also, of Nvrjolk ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Cobourg ; also, of the Town Council of
Colour g ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Ottawa; also, of the Orange Lodge of March and
Huntley ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Ottawa ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Carleton ;
also, of the Town Council of Brockville ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Chatham; also, of
the Orange Lodge of Port Perry ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Northport ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 488 ,• also of Orange Lodge, No. 893, all of Prince Edward; also, of the
Orange Lodge of Prince Edward; also, of the Orange Lodge of Barrie ; also, of
the Orange Lodge of Allandale ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Nevis; also, of
the Orange Lodge of Collingwood ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Stayner ;
also, of the Orange Lodge of Creemore ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Dun Eden ;
also, of the Orange Lodge of Duntroon ; also, of William Purvis and others, of Simcoe ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 86 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 125 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 354; also, of Orange Lodge No. 465 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,083; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 1,196 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 607, all of South Simcoe; also, of
the Orange Lodge of Marshvilk ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 929 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 657 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 657 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 387 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 588 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 140; also, of Orange Lodge No. 215 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 711 : also, of Orange Lodge No. 551 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 342 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 479 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 675 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 127 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 136 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 301 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 212 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 375 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 821 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. Ill ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 781, all of Toronto ; also, of
the Orange Lodge of Centre Toronto ; also, of the Orange Lodge of East Toronto ; also, of
the Orange Lodge of West Toronto ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Toronto ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 405 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 640 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 640 ; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 74 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 276 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
276 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 408 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 43 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 43 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,073 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 764 ; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 915 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 311 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
133 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 399 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 265 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 265; also, of Orange Lodge No. 201, all of Durham ; also, of the Orange
Lodge of West Durham ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Clarke ; also, of the Orange
Lodge of Cartwright ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Darlington ; also, of the Orange
Lodge of Proton ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Dundalk ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 6, of Kingston; also, of the Orange Lodge of Oxford ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 47; also, of Orange Lodge No. 119; also, of Orange Lodge No. 119 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 126; also, of Orange Lodge No. 221, all of Ottawa; also of
Orange Lodge No. 576 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 198, all of Grey ; also, of the Orange
Lodge of Sh Vincent ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 838 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 836 ;
also of Orange Lodge No. 747; also, of Orange Lodge No. 727; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 131 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 94 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 2, all of South Hast-
ings ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 49; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,072; also, of Orange
Lodge No, 457, all of Peterborough ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Merritton ; also, of the
Orange Lodge of Essex ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Augusta ; also, of the Orange Lodge
of Beamsville , also, of the Orange Lodge of Oxford ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Wol-
ford ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Grenville ; also, of the Orange Lodge of South Gower ;
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also, of the Orange Lodge of Grenville ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 340 of Renfrew ; also,
of the Orange Lodge of Westmeath ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Elian Gowan ; also, of
the Orange Lodge of Dunkeld ; also, of the Orange Lodge ofPinkerton ; also, of the Orange
Lodge of Malcolm also, of the Orange Lodge of Greenock, severally praying that an Act
may pass to incorporate the Loyal Orange Association of Ontario East and West.
The following Bills were severally introduced, and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 82), intituled, "An Act respecting payment to Unorganized Townships,
or parts of Districts under the Municipal Loan Fund Scheme." — The Honourable Mr.
Crooks.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
Bill (No. 83), intituled, " An Act to amend the Acts respecting the sale of Fermented
or Spirituous Liquors." — The Honourable Mr. Crooks.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
Bill (No. 84), intituled, " An Act to extend Cap. 45 of the Con. Stat. for Upper Can-
ada, intituled " An Act respecting Mortgages and Sales of personal property in the Dis-
tricts of Muskoka, Parry Sound, Thunder Bay and Nipissing" — Mr. Deacon.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
On motion of Mr. Boulter, seconded by Mr. Wills,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return showing the number of High
Schools in operation during the year 1876 ; number and location of such schools as have
been ordered to be closed during the present year, and the reasons for such closing.
Mr. Bethune moved, seconded by Mr. Hardy,
That there be laid before this House,aEeturn of the following documents relating to
the Book Depository Branch of the Department of Education — A statement of the Book-
sellers' Association presented to the Minister of Education, and all documents which will
show the action of the Minister thereon — A statement showing the value of the books
disposed of by the Department during the year 1876.
And a debate having arisen, the Motion was, with the leave of the House, withdrawn.
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat delivered to Mr. Speaker a Message from
the Lieutenant-Governor, signed by himself; and the said Message was read by Mr.
Speaker, and is as follows : —
D. A. MACDONALD :
The Lieutenant-Governor transmits Estimates of certain sums required for the ser-
vices of the Province for the year ending 31st December, 1877, and for balance to com-
plete the services of 1875, and recommends them to the Legislative Assembly.
GOVERNMENT HOUSE,
January 15th, 1877.
ESTIMATES.
For the service of the year 1877 $2,520,999 23
For the service of the year 1875 19,223 87
Total $2,540,223 10
(Sessional Papers, No. 8.)
Ordered, That the Message from the Lieutenant-Governor, together with the Esti-
mates accompanying the same, be referred to the Committee of Supply.
36 15TH AND 16TH JANUARY. 1877.
Mr. Scott moved, seconded by Mr. Deacon,
That a Select Committee be appointed to enquire into and report upon the existing
system of Life Insurance as carried on in the Province of Ontario, and the expediency or
otherwise, of establishing a system of State Life Insurance in the Province of Ontario, com-
posed as follows : — Messieurs Ferris, Meredith, McMahon, Deacon, Hardy, and Scott.
And the Motion having been put, was lost on a division.
The House then adjourned at 6 P.M.
Tuesday, 16th January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Mr. McDougall—The Petition of W. H. Miller and others, of
Toronto ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 885 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge
No. 9 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 66 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge
No. 702 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 449 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge
No. 89 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 694 • also the Petition of Orange Lodge
No. 209 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,053 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 877 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 605 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 450 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 450 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No, 533 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 589 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 73 ; also, the Petition of Grange Lodge No. 16, all of South Simcoe; also, the
Petition of the Orange Lodge of Bradford ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of
Barrie ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of South Simcoe.
By the Honourable Mr. Currie — The Petition of the Village Council of Fort Erie.
By Mr. Lander— The Petition of P. I). Conger and others, of Toronto ; also, the Peti-
tion of the Orange Lodge of Grey ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 509 ; also, the
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,383 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 632 ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 244 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No.
1,192 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 668, all of South Grey.
By Mr. Clarke (Norfolk)— The Petition of Charles M. Covernton and others, of Norfolk.
By Mr. Sinker — The Petition of George Noble and others, of Prince Edward.
By Mr. Wilson — The Petition of the County Council of Elgin ; also the Petition of
R. L. Chandler and others, of St. Thomas.
By Mr. Watterworth — The Petition of the School Board of Straihroy ; also the Petitions
of the County Council of Middlesex ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,186 ; also the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 981 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 831 ; also the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 543 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 537 ; also the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 517 ; also the Petition' of Orange Lodge No. 658 ; also the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge No. 593, all of Middlesex.
By Mr. Deroche— The Petition of Orange Lodge of Central Addington ; also the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 728 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 532 ; also the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 368, all of Lennox.
By Mr. Tooley — Three Petitions of the County Council of Middlesex.
By Mr. Creighton — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,031 ; also the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 997 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,322 ; also the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 1,302 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 101 ; also the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 801 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,387 ; also the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 828 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 896 ; also the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 67 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 992 ; also the Petition of
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Orange Lodge No. 1,319; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 611, all of South Grey ;
also the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Sullivan ; also the Petition of the Orange Lodge of
Owen Sound ; also the Petition of the Town Council of Owen Sound.
By Mr. Long — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Barrie ; also the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 644 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 622 ; also the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 649 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,119 ; also the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 985, all of North Simcoe ; also the Petition of the School Board of Colling-
wood.
By Mr. Hargraft — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Cold Springs ; also the Petition
of E. H. Clarke and others, of Northumberland ; also the Petition of F. W. Beebe and others,
of Cobourg ; also the Petition of the Town Council of Cobourg.
By Mr. Brown. — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 891 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 822 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 957 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 686 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 167 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 796 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No, 665 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 168, all of South Ontario.
By Mr. Rosevear. — The Petition of the Town Council of Port Hope ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 83 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 141 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 149 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 279 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 385 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 388 ; also, the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge No. 420 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 421 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 424 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 532 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 769 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 785 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1022 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1062 ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 44 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 75,
all of Durham ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Port Hope ; also, the Petition
of the Orange Lodge of East Durham.
By Mr. Coutts— The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,055 of Kent.
By Mr. Ballantyne — The Petition of the Township Council of Mornington.
By Mr. Cole — The Petition of John McMullen and others, of Brockville.
By Mr. Broder — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 720 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 117; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 573, all of Lincoln ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge of Niagara ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge ofMalahide ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge of Elgin ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 583 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 954 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 511, all
of North Ontario.
By Mr. Ferris — The Petition of J. W. Rolph and others, of Toronto.
By Mr. McDougall (Middlesex) — The Petition of the Township Council of Adelaide ;
also, two Petitions of the County Council of Middlesex ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge
No. 901 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,212 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 292 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 310 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 297 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 298 ; also the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 763, all of West Middlesex.
By Mr. Wigle—The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,218; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 808 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,225 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 1,140; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,283, all of Essex.
By Mr. Lyon — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 166 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 245, all of Halton.
By Mr. McGowan — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 112 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 351 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 655 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 531 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 970 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 656, all of Perth', also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of
Wallace.
By Mr. Deacon — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 503 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 470, all of Renfrew ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 162, of South
Frontenac ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 162, of South Frontenac.
By Mr. Baker— The Petition" of the Orange Lodge of Dalhousie ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge of Metcalfe ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1 ; also, the Petition
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of Orange Lodge of Russell ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,330 ; also, the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge, No. 1,312 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,257 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 810 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 757 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 706 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 407 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge, No. 395; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 357 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 222 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 205 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 268, all of Russell.
By Mr. Monk— The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 373 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 57 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 326 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 338 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 525 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 541 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 476 ;also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 30 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Fitzroy, all of Carleton.
By Mr. Patterson (Essex). — The Petition of the School Board of Windsor ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 966 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1106, all of
Essex.
By Mr. Widdineld. — The Petition of James G. Hillary and others, of Uxbridge.
By Mr. Sexton. — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Wentworth ; also, the Petition
of the Orange Lodge of Ancaster.
By Mr. Lane — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Markham ; also, the Petition of
the Orange Lodge of Scarborough.
By Mr. Hunter— The Petition of R. Smith and others, of Egremont; also, the Petition
of the Township Council of Bentinck ; also, the Petition of the Township Council of
Glenelg.
By Mr. Meredith — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 858 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 791 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 188, all of London ; also,
the Petition of the Incorporated Synod of the Diocese of Huron.
By Mr. Boulter— The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 590 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 91 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 516 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 415 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 736 ; all of North
York ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 211; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge
No. 142 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 807 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge
No. 455 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 696 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 260, all of Peel ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 307, of Elgin ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,409, of Monk ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No.
312 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 779, all of Wentworth ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 687 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,151 ; also, the Petition
of the Orange Lodge of Enniskillen, all of Lambton ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge
No. 570, of Ontario ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 423, of Elgin ; also, the.
Petition of the Orange Lodge of Lincoln.
By Mr. Grange — The Petition of the School Board of Napanee.
By Mr. Kean. — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 414, of Orillia.
By Mr. Merrick— The Petition of Orange Lodge of Monck ; also, the Petition of the
Orange Lodge of Brant ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Kent ; also, the Peti-
tion of the Orange Lodge of Springfield ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Elgin-
field ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Howick ; also, the Petition of the Orange
Lodge of Turnbury ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 794 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 873 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 560, all of Huron; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge of Paisley ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Gowan ;
also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Walkerton ; also, the Petition ot the Orange
Lodge of Carlingford ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 759 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 313; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 768 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 707 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 591 ; also, the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge No. 518; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 492 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 45, all of Perth ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No.
493; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,210, all of Huron; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 286 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 286 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 71 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 554 ; also, the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge No. 776, all of Wentworth ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No.
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778 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 426, all of York ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge of Wellington West ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Welland ; also, the
Petition of the Orange Lodge of Peel ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of West
Ontario ; also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of East Bruce ; also, the Petition of the
Orange Lodge of North Huron ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of North York.
Mr. Deroche, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented their
Second Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined the following Petitions, and find that the Rules of
the House have been complied with therein : —
Of the Huron and Quebec Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass to amend
their Act of incorporation.
Of Robert Dennistoun and others, of Peterborough, praying that an Act may pass to in-
corporate the William Hall, Peterborough, Protestant Poor Trust.
Of the Rector and Churchwardens of St. Paul's Church, in the City of Toronto, pray-
ing that an Act may pass authorizing them to mortgage certain church property for the
benefit of said church, and also to declare valid a certain mortgage now existing.
Of John A. Campbell and others, of East Hawkesbury, praying that an Act may pass
to divide the Township of East Hawkesbury into two municipalities.
Of /. L. Buss and others, of Drayton, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the
Conference of the Christian Church in Canada.
Of the Town Council of Brantford, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the
Town of Brantford as a City.
Of the Lord Bishop of the Diocese of Ontario, praying that an Act may pass autho-
rizing the Rector and Churchwardens of St. Paul's Church, Almonte, to mortgage the
Rectory lands.
Of the Municipal Council of the Corporation of the Town of Dundas, praying that
an Act may pass empowering them to pass a by-law exempting the Canada Screw Com-
pany from taxation for twenty-one years.
Of the Canada Company, praying that an Act may pass to confirm and legalize a new
survey in the Townships of Bosanquet and McGillivray..
Of the Rector and Churchwardens of St. Marks Church, Niagara, praying that an Act
may pass to enable them to sell certain church lands.
Of the Corporation of the Town of Belleville, praying that an Act may pass to incor-
porate the said Town as a City, and also to consolidate the debt of the said Town.
Of H. S. Crawford and others, of Hamilton, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate
the Standard Fire and Marine Insurance Company.
Of W. J. Parkhill, John White, and others, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate
the Loyal Orange Association of Western and Eastern Ontario.
Of the Rev. A. Carman, of Belleville, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the
Alma College, St. Thomas.
Of the Rev. A. Carman, of Belleville, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the
Missionary Society of the Methodist Episcopal Church of Canada.
Of the Canadian Literary Institute of Woodstock, praying that an Act may pass to amend
their Act of incorporation, and to authorize them to mortgage certain property.
Of the Right Reverend the Bishop of Niagara, and others, praying that an Act may
pass, authorizing the sale of certain lands for the benefit of Saint Paul's Church, Mount
Forest.
Of the County Council of Grey, praying that an Act may pass to re-unite the North and
South Ridings of Grey for registration purposes.
Of the Stratford and Huron Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass to amend
their Act of Incorporation, and for other purposes.
Of the Whiiby and Port Perry Extension Railway Company, praying that an Act may
pass to amend their Act of incorporation.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of the Trustees of the Presbyterian
Church, Orillia, praying that an Act may pass to authorize the sale of certain lands by the
Trustees of the Orillia Presbyterian Church ; also ths Petition of the Port Hope Harbonr
€ommissioners, praying that an Act may pass to enable them to consolidate their debt ; and
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find that in each of these cases the Notices have been published only five times in the Ontario
Gazette and in the local papers ; but the Committee recommend the suspension of the Rule
requiring six weeks' notice in each case, as they are of opinion that all parties interested have
been sufficiently notified.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of Robert Jaffray and others, of Toronto,
raying that an Act may pass to incorporate the Metropolitan Street Railway Company, and
nd that the local notices have been published in accordance with the Rules of your Honour-
able House ; but that through some error one insertion of Notice was omitted from the
Ontario Gazette. The Committee recommend the suspension of the Rule in this case.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of Wm. E. Idsardi, of St. Thomas,
praying that an Act may pass authorizing his admission as a Provincial Land Surveyor,
and find that the full term of Notice has been given in the local papers, but that such
application has only appeared five times in the Ontario Gazette; the Committee, however,
recommend the suspension of the Rule therein.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of the North Simcoe Railway Company,
praying that an Act may pass to amend their charter, and find the Notice, as pub-
lished in the Ontario Gazette, sufficient ; a Notice relating to the Railway has appeared in
the local papers for more than the prescribed time ; such Notice has, however, been
altered so as to cover more distinctly the prayer of the Petition now before the Committee,
and such amended Notice has appeared but five times in said local papers ; under the cir-
cumstances, however, the Committee recommend the suspension of the Rule in this
instance.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of Henry Paffard and others, of
Niagara, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the Niagara and St. Catharines
Railway and Steamboat Company, and find that so far as the application for the incorpo-
ration of a Railway Company is concerned, the Notices as published in the Ontario Gazette
and in the local papers are regular, but that such Notices do not include the words
" Steamboat Company."
The following Bills were severally introduced and read a first time : —
Bill (No. 27), intituled " An Act to incorporate the Loyal Orange Association of Ontario
West, and the Loyal Orange Association of Ontario East." — Mr. Merrick.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 6), intituled "An Act to authorize the Town of Dundas, to pass a By-Law
exempting the Canada Screw Company from taxation." — Mr. McMahon.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 34), intituled " An Act for the incorporation of the Christian Church in
Canada."— Mr. Widdifield.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 9), intituled " An Act respecting St. Paul's Church, Toronto"— Mr. Hodgins.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 54), intituled " An Act for the admission of William E. Idsardi as a Provin-
cial Land Surveyor." — Mr. Wilson.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 11), intituled " An Act to re-unite the North and South Ridings of the County
of Grey for the purposes of Registration of Titles." — Mr. Creighton.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 30), intituled " An Act to incorporate Alma College, at St. Thomas.'' — Mr.
Wilson.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 40), intituled " An Act to incorporate the Trinity Medical School." — Mr.
Widdiiield.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 10), intituled " An Act to amend the Act relating to the Whiiby and
Port Perry Extension Railway Company." — Mr. Paxton.
^Referred to the Committee on Railways.
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Bill (No. 44), intituled " An Act to erect the Town of Brantford into a City, under
the name of the City of Brantford." — Mr. Hardy.
Referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills.
Bill (No. 33), intituled " An Act to incorporate the Missionary Society of the Metho-
dist Episcopal Church in Canada." — Mr. Graham.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 18), intituled " An Act to alter and amend the survey of the lands of the
Canada Company in the Townships of Bosanquet and McGillivray." — Honourable Mr.
Pardee.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 26), intituled " An Act to legalize a certain survey in the Township of
Matilda."— Mr. Broder.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 12), intituled " An Act respecting St. John's Church, Iroquois." — Mr. Broder.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 3), intituled " An Act to incorporate the William Hall, Peterborough, Pro-
testant Poor Trust."— Mr. Scott.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 62), intituled "An Act respecting the Huron and Quebec Railway Company."
—Mr. Scott.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 24), intituled " An Act relating to St. Mark's Church, Niagara." — Mr.
Williams.
Referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills.
Bill (No. 19), intituled "An Act respecting the Stratford and Lake Huron Railway."
— Mr. Hay.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 45), intituled " An Act to enable the Synod of Niagara to sell certain lands
in Arthur." — Mr. Williams.
Referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills.
Bill (No. 31), intituled "An Act to incorporate the Standard Fire and Marine Insur-
ance Company." — Mr. Williams.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 61), intituled " An Act to consolidate the debt of the Port Hope Harbour."—
Mr. Rosevear.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
The Honourable Mr. Wood laid before the House, by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
Report from Queen's Printer as to disposal of Ontario Statutes for 1876. (Sessional
Papers, No. 18.)
Also : Return of all correspondence between the Government of the Dominion of
Canada, and that of the Province of Ontario, on the subjects of Escheats and Forfeitures.
(Sessional Papers, No. 22.)
Also : Papers and Correspondence with respect to the Book Depository Branch of the
Education Department. (Sessional Papers, No. 23.)
Also : Return to an Address (in the Session of 1875-6) to the Lieutenant-Go vernor
praying that he would cause to be laid before the House at its next Session, by the In-
spector of Division Courts ; a Return from each of the Division Courts of the Counties of
York, Oxford and the United Counties of Northumberland and Durham, from the first day
of October, 1875, to the thirty-first day of March, 1876, inclusive ; setting forth the total
number of suits entered, exclusive of the interpleader suits. Garnishee causes and tran-
scripts of judgments received from other Courts ; total amount of claims thus entered,
total amount of transcripts of judgments received from other Courts, number of inter-
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pleader Suits entered ; number of judgment Summonses issued ; number of garnishee
causes entered (before judgment) ; number of garnishee causes entered (after judgment) ;
total amount of garnishee causes entered (before judgment) ; number of instances in
which the Clerk has entered judgment under the second Section of the Division Courts
Act of 1869 ; number of causes in which the Judge has given judgment ; number of tran-
scripts of judgments from other Courts ; number of summonses received from other Courts
for service ; the names, residence aud occupation of the Clerks' sureties in the bond to
Her Majesty, under the twenty-fourth section of the Division Courts Act ; amounts yet-
due on stamps if any there be ; total amounts of moneys paid into Court, and which re-
mained unclaimed for six years on the 30th day of September last, amount of fines or
forfeitures ; how many sittings of the Court 1 How many returns have the Bailiffs of the
Courts made under Eule 93, Form 126 1 ; total amount of suitor's money paid into Court ;
total amount of suitor's money paid out of Court ; total aggregate of Clerk's and Bailiff's
fees in the above suits. (Sessional Papers, No. 24.)
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into a Committee of Supply.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That there be granted to Her Majesty for the service of the year 1877 the
following sums : —
1. To defray the expenses of Government House, Toronto, as follow : —
Water , $265 00
Gas 900 00
Fuel 2,000 00
Eepairs .... 70000
Furnishing 200 00
Planting and Plants 100 00
Gardener 432 00
Assistant Gardener 350 00
Caretaker < 365 00
Incidentals 200 00
Total $5,512 00
2. To defray the expenses of the Lieutenant-Governor's Office, as follow : —
Private Secretary... $1,200 00
Official Secretary 800 00
Messenger 400 00
Contingencies 950 00
Total , $3,350 00
3. To defray the expenses of the Executive Council and Attorney-General's
Office, as follow : —
Attorney-General and Premier $5,500 00
Clerk of Executive Council and Deputy of Attorney-General 2,800 00
Secretary to Executive Council 1,200 00
Assistant Clerk, Attorney-General's department 900 00
Second Clerk, Attorney-General's department 600 00
Assistant Messenger 250 00
Towards establishing a Law Library 400 00
Contingencies, including stationery and repairs 1 , 600 00
Kent, Fuel, Gas and Water, Housekeeper and Fireman 1,320 00
Total « $14,570 00
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To defray the expenses of the Department of Public Works, as follow : —
Commissioner $4,500 00
Architect 2,200 00
Engineer 2,000 00
Secretary of Public Works 1,600 00
Accountant and Law Clerk. 1,200 00
Architectural Draughtsman 939 00
Engineering Draughtsman 939 00
Assistant Draughtsman 800 00
First Clerk 800 00
Second Clerk 700 00
Carpenter, engaged on public buildings generally 62400
Messenger 400 00
Contingencies 2,000 00
Office Maintenance 1,320 00
Total $20,022 00
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair, and Mr. Clarke (Wellington) reported, That the Com-
mittee had come to a Resolution ; and, That the Committee had directed him to ask
leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received To-morrow.
Resolved, That The House will again resolve itself into a Committee of Supply To-
morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 67), Respecting Escheats and Forfeitures.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 68), To Amend and Repeal certain Enactments of the last Session of the
Legislature of this Province.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 70), Respecting references to the Supreme Court of Canada, and the Ex-
chequer Court of Canada, in certain cases.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
On motion of Mr. Meredith, seconded by Mr. Lavder,
Ordered, That the name of Mr. Wills be added to the Select Committee on Bill (No. 80),
for the encouragement of Agriculture, Horticulture, Arts, and Manufactures.
The House then adjourned at 5.35 P. M.
Wednesday, 17th January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Mr. Pardee — The Petition of R. S. Chird and others, of Sarnia.
By Mr. Hargraft — The Petition of Dr. Hildreth and others, of Northumberland.
By Mr. Mostyn— The Petition of the School Board of Pakenham.
By Mr. Hay— The Petition of the School Board of Listowel.
44 17TH JANUARY. 1877.
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of William Lang and others ; also, of J. Burns and others, all of Toronto, severally
praying that an Act may pass to incorporate Trinity Medical School,
Of the Township Council of Chatham, praying for certain amendments to the Drain-
age Act.
Of Andrew Hudson and others ; also, of J. Durie and others, of Ottawa ; also, of R.
Clendening and others, severally praying for the abolition of the Book Depository.
Of John Leys and others, of Sault Ste. Marie, praying that an Act may pass to ex-
tend the limits of the Municipality of Sault Ste. Marie.
Of the High School Board of Prescott ; also, of the High School Board of Renfrew ;
also, of the High School Board of Drummondville ; also, of the High School Board of
Pembroke ; also, of the High School Board of Markham ; also, of the High School Board
of Kemptville ; also, two Petitions from the County Council of Bruce, severally praying
for certain amendments to the School Act.
Of the Village Council of Aewooro' ; also, of the Village Council of Norwich ; also,
of the Town Council of Ingersoll, severally praying for certain amendments to the Assess-
ment Act with respect to the Exemption clauses.
Of W. //. Cutten and others, of Guelph, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate
the Guelph Street Railway Company.
Of the Loyal Orange Lodge of Gulloden ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Blenheim; also,
of the Orange Lodge of Tilsonburgh; also, of the Orange Lodge of Oxford; also, of the Orange
Lodge of Ingersoll ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Haliburton; also, of Orange Lodge, No.
199 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 468 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 975 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 1,109 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,110 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,163 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,278; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,287; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 1,357 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,406 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,412,
all of 'Haliburton ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Chippewa ; also, of the Orange Lodge of
Port Robinson ; also, of Orange Lodge of Stevensville ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Drum-
mondville ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Dunnville; also, of the Orange Lodge of Fenwick;
also, of the Orange Lodge of Port Colborne; also, of the Orange Lodge of Allanburgh;
also, of the Orange Lodge of Blenheim ; also, of the Orange Lodge of March ; also, of the
Orange Lodge of Huntley ; also, of the Orange Lodge No. 43, of Huntley ; also, of the
Orange Lodge of North Gower ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,410 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 1,404 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,318; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,311 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 996 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 952 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 820 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 539 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 294; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 120 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 96 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 41 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 32, all of Victoria; also, of the Orange Lodge of Hullett; also, of the Orange
Lodge of Goderich ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Blyth ; also, of the Orange Lodge No.
793, of Blyth ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Port Albert; also, of the Orange Lodge No.
1,388 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,343, of South Huron; also, of the Orange Lodge of
Goderich ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 194 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 511 ; also of Orange
Lodge No. 26 ; also, of Orange Lodge No 100; also, of Orange Lodge No. 27, all of South
Leeds; also, of the Orange Lodge of Gananoque; also, of the Orange Lodge of Escott; also,
of the Orange Lodge of South Leeds; also,, of Orange Lodge No. 49; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 47 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 87 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 90 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 225 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 289 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 42 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 127 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 650; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 2, all of North Leeds ; also, of the Orange Lodge No. 626 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
998 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 819; also, of Orange Lodge No. 514 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 830 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 536 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 911, all of
East Lambton; also, of Orange Lodge No. 255 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 681, all of
Arthur ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Rorthsay ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Norfolk;
also, of the Orange Lodge of Waterford ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Courtland ; also,of the
Orange Lodge of Houghton ; also, of the Orange Lodge oiPetrolia; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 969 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 261 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 65 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 106, all of Norrthumbeland ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 823 ; also, of Orange
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Lodge No. 360; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,274 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,323 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No, 1,108, all of Brant; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,267; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 1,172 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,102 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 341, all of Lincoln; also, of Orange Lodge No. 161 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.171;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 29 : also, of Orange Ledge No. 283 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 895 ; also, of Orange Lodge, No. 876, all of Haldimand ; also, of Orange Lodge ^o.
604; also, of Orange Lodge No. 63; also, of Orange Lodge No. 61 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 1,020. also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,174; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,027.
also, of Orange Lodge No. 263 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 708 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 249 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 157 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 76 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 5, all of Peel; also, of Orange Lodge No.863 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 459,
all of Huron, severally praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the Loyal Orange
Association of Ontario East and West.
Mr. Deroclie, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented their
Third Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined the following Petitions, and find that the Eules ot the
House have been complied with therein : —
Of the Toronto House Building Association, praying that an Act may pass to change
their name to that of the Toronto Loan and Land Company, and for amendments to their
Act of incorporation.
Of John McAllister and others of Hamilton Township, praying that an Act may pass
authorizing B. McAllister to convey to D. McAllister, certain lands in the Town of Cobourg,
and in the Township of Hamilton.
Of the Right Reverend the Bishop of Toronto and others, praying that an Act may
pass authorizing them to sell certain lands for the benefit of St. Paul's Church, Newmarket.
Of Geo. Russell and others, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the Leaming-
ton, Comber and Lake St. Glair Railway Company.
Of W . P. Howland and others, of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass to incorpo-
rate the Canadian Industrial Exhibition Company.
Of the Honourable Wm. McMaster and others, praying that an Act may pass to alter
the survey of certain lots in the Town of Collingivood, and authorizing the Registrar of the
County of Simcoe to register the same.
Or the Township Council of Caledon, praying that an Act may pass to confirm a sur-
vey in the Township of Caledon.
Of the Municipal Council of the Village of Port Elgin, praying that an Act may pass
authorizing them to sell certain lands.
Of Edward William Harris and others, of London, praying that an Act may pass to
incorporate the London Real Estate Association.
Of the Corporation of the City of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass to amend
the Municipal Assessment and Toronto Water Works Acts.
Of the Cobourg, Peterborough and Marmora Railway and Mining Company, praying
that An Act may pass to amend their Charter.
Of the Town Council of Barrie, praying that an Act may pass legalizing a certain
By-law of Simcoe.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of the Town Council of Windso1)',
praying that an Act may pass to legalize a By-law for the issue of Debentures, and find
that through an error the notice was omitted in several issues of the local paper in which
it had been ordered to be published ; five insertions have, however, appeared, and con-
sidering that evidence has been produced before the Committee showing that action has
been taken by the Municipal Council in the matter, the record of which proceedings were
duty published in the local papers, the Committee consider that all parties concerned
have had sufficient notice, and recommend the suspension of the Rule in this case.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of Hugh Wilson and others, pray-
ing that an Act may pass to amend the Act organizing the Municipality of Shvniah, and
find that the full term of notice of such intended application has been given in the Ontario
46 17TH JANUARY. 1877.
Gazette ; from the difficulty of winter communication with Prince Arthur's Landing, the
place at which the local paper is published in which the local notices were inserted, the
full number of such notices have not been produced before the Committee. The Commit-
tee have, however, been informed that such notices have been published the requisite
number of times, and therefore recommend that the Rule be suspended in this case.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of the Credit Valley Railway Com-
pany, praying that an Act may pass to extend the time for the completion of the Railway
and for other purposes, and find that the proper number of notices, as required by the
Rules of your Honourable House, have been published in the Ontario Gazette, and in the
Toronto Daily Leader, but that such notices have not been published in any other paper
in any of the counties through which the said Railway runs; the Committee, however,
recommend the suspension of the Rule in this case.
The Honourable Mr. Fraser, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, present-
ed their First Report, which read as follows : —
The Committee have examined Bill (No. 22), Respecting the Roman Catholic
Episcopal Corporation of the Diocese of Hamilton, and report the Bill [without amend-
ment.
The Committee have also examined the following Bills, and have prepared certain
amendments thereto respectively :
Bill (No. 36), Respecting the Church of St. Alban the Martyr, in Ottawa.
Also, Bill (No. 7), T<* extend and define the limits of the Town of Crillia.
Also, Bill (No. 51), To incorporate the Home Savings and Loan Company (Limited).
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted
on the following Bills, the same being in connection with religious institutions : —
Bill (No. 22), Roman Catholic Episcopal Corporation of Hamilton; Bill (No. 7),
Church of St. Alban the Martyr, in Ottawa.
Ordered, — That the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on the following
Bills : — (No. 22), Roman Catholic Episcopal Corporation of Hamilton; (No. 7), Church
of St. Alban, Ottawa.
Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), from the Committee on Printing, presented their First
Report, which was read as follows : —
The Standing Committee on Printing present the following as their First Report : —
The Committee recommend that the following documents be printed :
Public Accounts for the year 1875. (Sessional Papers, No. 1.)
Third Report of the Commissioners for Consolidating the Statutes. (Sessional Papers,
ISTo. 20.)
Interim Report of the Registrar-General for the first six months of 1876. (Sessional
Papers, No. 16.)
Annual Report on Public Works for 1876. (Sessional Papers, No. 5.)
Report on the Schools of Practical Science. (Sessional Papers, No. 13.)
Return shewing the number of Civil and Criminal cases entered for trial at the
several Assizes since January, 1874. (Sessional Papers, No. 14.)
Return of Correspondents between the Governments of the Dominion of Canada and
the Province of Ontario on the subject of Escheats and Forfeitures. (Sessional Papers,
No. 22.)
Papers and Correspondence respecting the Depository Branch of the Education De-
partment. (Sessional Papers, No. 23.)
The Committee also recommend that the following documents be not printed : —
Statement of business transacted by the London Life Insurance Company for 1875.
(Sessional Papers, No. 21.)
Report from Queen's Printed as to disposal of Ontario Statutes for 1876. (Sessional
Papers, No. 18.)
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Detailed Statement of all bonds and securities recorded in the Provincial Registrar's
Office since last return submitted. (Sessional Papers, No. 19.)
Return from each of the Division Courts of the Counties of York, Oxford, and the
United Counties of Northumberland and Durham, from the first day of October, 1875, to
the thirty-first day of March, 1876. (Sessional Papers, No. 24.)
Copies of the abstract of Election Expenses incurred by, or in behalf of any candi-
date at the last general and subsequent elections. (Sessional Papers, No. 17.)
The Committee also recommend that one bound copy of the Journal and Sessional
Papers of the House be sent annually to the Clerk of each County Council, City Council,
and Town Council, separate from a County, for the use of said Councils ; and that the
said volumes for last Session be at once forwarded to said Clerks.
The Committee also recommend that the quorum of the Committee be reduced to
three instead of five members.
Resolved, That the House doth concur in the First Report of the Committee on
Printing.
Ordered, That the quorum of the Committee on Printing be reduced to three members.
The following Bills were sererally introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 59), intituled " An Act respecting the Toronto Land and Loan Company."
— Mr. Deroche.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 2), intituled " An Act to divide the Township of East Hawkesbury into two
Municipalities." — Mr. Sinclair.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 21), intituled " An Act respecting the Village of Port Elgin."— Mr. Sin-
clair.
Referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills.
Bill (No. 32), intituled "An Act for the incorporation of the Town of JBettmlk." —
Mr. mils.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 56), intituled " An Act respecting the City of Toronto, the Toronto Water
Works, and other matters." — Mr. Bell.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 42), intituled " An Act respecting the Credit Valley Railway Company." —
Mr. Bell.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 55), intituled " An Act respecting the Cobourg, Peterborough and Marmora
Railway and Mining Company." — Mr. Ear graft.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 25), intituled " An Act to enable Bernard McAllister, a Trustee, to conyey
certain lands." — Mr. Ear graft.
Referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills.
Bill (No. 41), intituled " An Act to incorporate the Leamington, Comber and lake
St. Glair Railway Company." — Mr. Wigle.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 14), intituled " An Act to confirm a Survey of the Township of Caledon."
Mr. Flesher.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 23), intituled " An Act respecting the North Simcoe Railway Company."
— The Honourable Mr. McDougall.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 86), intituled " An Act to extend the Municipal Franchise to Women. "-
Mr. Clarke (Norfolk).
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Friday next.
48 17TH JANUARY. 1877.
Bill (No. 87), intituled, " An Act to extend the Franchise at Elections for the Legis-
lative Assembly, so as to enable all male subjects of Her Majesty of full age to vote at
such Elections." — Honourable Mr. Currie.
Ordered, — That the Bill be read the second time on Friday next.
Bill (No. 38), intituled, "An Act respecting the Municipality of Shuniah."—M.r.
son.
Eeferred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 49), intituled. " An Act respecting St. Paul's Church at Newmaket" — Mr.
Widdifield.
Referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills.
Bill (No. 47), intituled, " An Act to legalize a By-law of the County of Simcoe."-
Mr. Long.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 15), intituled " An Act to confirm a survey of part of the Town of Golling-
wood.^—Mr. Long.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill fNo, 20), intituled "An Act respecting St. Paul's Church in the Village of Al-
monte."— Mr. Code.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 5), intituled " An Act respecting By-Law No. 240, of the Town of Windsor."
—Mr. Patterson (Essex).
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No, 46;, intituled "An Act to incorporate the London Real Estate Association.''
— Mr. Meredith.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 29), intituled " An Act to incorporate the Metropolitan Street Railway
Company of Toronto." — The Honourable Mr. Cameron.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 8), intituled " An Act respecting the Toronto, Grey, and Bruce Railway
Company." — The Honourable Mr. Cameron.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
On motion of the Honourable Mr. Cameron, seconded by Mr. Lauder,
Ordered, That there be laid before the House a Return of all Licences for the sale of
Spirituous or Fermented Liquors, in the Province during the years 1875 and 1876. Such
return to show the names and addresses of all persons so licensed, whether brewers,
wholesale dealers, shop-keepers, tavern-keepers, or saloon-keepers, and distinguishing the
nature of the Licence.
On motion of Mr. Wills, seconded by Mr. Applely,
Ordered, That a Select Committee be appointed to inquire into and report on the best
method of preventing accidents to Brakesmen and Switchmen on Railways, when in dis-
charge of their respective duties, with power to send for persons and papers, said Com-
mittee to be composed as follows : — The Honourable Messieurs Currie and McDougall, and
Messieurs Hardy, Hodgins and Wills.
On motion of Mr. Ferris, seconded by Mr. Bethune,
Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to the Lieutenant-Governor, praying
that he will cause to be laid before this House, a Return showing the amount paid by
the several Cities, Towns, and incorporated Villages for Police service ; and also from
the several Counties, Cities, Towns, and incorporated Villages, the several amounts paid
to Constables for the year 1875.
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On motion of Mr. Long, seconded by Mr. Hunter,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Return in respect to cases under the
Act, 32nd and 33rd Fie. cap. 35, for the more speedy trial of Felonies and Misdemeanours,
from the several Counties in Ontario, for the year 1876, showing in tabular form the
following, viz : —
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On motion of Mr. Patterson (Essex), seconded by Mr. Wigle,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, Copies of all Correspondence in the
possession of the Government relative to appointments to the Magistracy in the North
Eiding of Essex.
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into a Committee of Supply.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That there be granted to Her Majesty, for the service of the year 1877, the
following sums : —
4. To defray the expenses of the Treasurer's Office, as follows :—
Treasurer $4,500 00
Accountant 1,800 00
Clerk 1,000 00
Clerk 1,000 00
Clerk ., 800 00
Messenger and Clerk 500 00
Audit Branch.
Auditor •• 2,000 00
Book-keeper 1,100 00
Clerk 900 00
Licences, and Administration of Justice Accounts.
Clerk 1,600 00
Clerk 1,000 00
Clerk 500 00
Cost of maintenance of East Wing 2,000 00
Housekeeper, with house, fuel and light 400 00
Fireman 400 00
Contingencies 1,500 00
Total $21,000 00
5. To defray expenses of Secretary and Registrar's Office, as follows :—
Secretary and Registrar $4,500 00
Assistant Secretary *,600 0°
Clerk 900 00
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Clerk $700 00
Clerk 700 00
Deputy Registrar.. 1,20000
Clerk 750 00
Clerk 600 00
Messenger 400 00
Expenses , 2,350 00
Registrar-General's Branch : —
First Clerk $1,200 00
Clerk 700 00
Three Clerks, $700 each 2,100 00
Clerk 500 00
Indices 200 00
Schedules, slips and circulars 1,100 00
Stationery and Printing 300 00
Postages 300 00
Express charges 50 00
Travelling expenses in inspecting District Registrars 600 00
Binding returns 200 00
Expenses 150 00
Total $21,100 00
7. To defray the expenses of the Department of Agriculture, as follows : —
Secretary $800 00
Expenses 400 00
Total $1,200 00
8. To defray the expenses of Immigration as follow: —
Secretary $1,200 00
Expenses 200 00
Total $1,400 00
9. To defray the expenses of Inspection of Public Institutions as follows : —
Inspector $3,000 00
Clerk 900 00
" 700 00
" 400 00
Messenger 250 00
Travelling expenses 700 00
Expenses , 700 00
Total $6,650 000
10. To defray the expenses of the Crown Lands Department, as follows : —
Commissioner $4,500 00
Assistant Commissioner 2,800 00
LawClerk.. 1,800 00
Shorthand Writer and Clerk 1,000 00
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Land Sales and Free Grants : —
Chief Clerk $2,000 00
Clerk 1,700 00
Clerk 1,200 00
Clerk 1,000 00
Clerk 850 00
Surveys, Patents, and Roads : —
Deputy Receiver-General $2,000 00
Clerk 1,250 00
Clerk 730 00
Chief Clerk Patents,. 1,350 00
Clerk 1,200 00
Clerk 1,100 00
Superintendent of Colonization Roads 1,800 00
Clerk , 1,000 00
Woods and Forests : —
Chief Clerk $2,000 00
Clerk 1,200 00
Clerk 850 00
Clerk ! 700 00
Accounts : —
Accountant », $2,000 00
Bookpeeper 1,250 00
Clerk 1,250 00
Clerk 850 00
Registrar ... $1,600 00
Housekeeper 500 00
Messenger 500 00
Contingencies, including repairs, of west wing departmental
buildings 12,000 00
Total $52,060 00
11. To defray Miscellaneous Expenses, as follow : —
Cost of Official Gazette $4,200 00
Queen's Printer 1,200 00
Clerk 360 00
Contingencies 100 00
Inspector of Registry offices (including travelling expenses)... 2,000 00
Inspector of Division Courts, salary, $1,400 00 ; travelling
expenses, $650 00 2,050 00
Inspection of offices of Deputy Clerks of the Crown, Deputy
Masters and Registrars in Chancery and County Courts,
travelling expenses 300 00
Total $10,000 00
52 17TH AND 18TH JANUARY. 1877.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair, and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had come to a Resolution ; and that the Committee had directed him to
ask leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received To-morrow.
Resolved, That the House will again resolve itself into a Committee of Supply To-
morrow.
On motion of the Honourable Mr. Cameron, seconded by the Honourable Mr.
McDougall,
Ordered, That a new Writ be issued for the Election of a Member to serve in this
present Legislative Assembly for the County of Frontenac, in the room of the late Peter
Graham, Esquire, who has died since his election.
The House then adjourned at 11.30 P.M.
Thursday, 18th January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. Wilson — The Petition of the Village Council of Aylmer.
By Mr. G1 Sullivan — The Petition of R. P. Boucher and others ; also, the Petition of
Thomas Menzies and others ; also, the Petition of Wm. Campbell and others, all of Peter-
borough ; also, the Petition of the County Council of Peterborough.
By Mr. Paxton — The Petition of the School Board of Port Perry.
By Mr Wills — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 160; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 382 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 318 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 1, all of South Hastings.
By Mr. Springer — The Petition of the Town Council of Berlin.
By Mr. Williams — The Petition of Julius Winckler and others ; also, the Petition of
Isaac Ryall and others, all of Hamilton.
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of P. D. Conger and others, of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate
the Peoples' Gas Company of Toronto.
Of the Town Council of Port Hope, praying that an Act may pass to authorize the
Port Hope Harbour Commissioners to issue Debentures.
Of the Incorporated Synod of the Diocese of Huron, praying that an Act may pass
to authorise them to sell certain lands for the benefit of St. Mary's Church, Warwick.
Of R. Smith and others, ofEgremont ; also, of the Township Council of Bentinck ; also,
of the Township Council of Glenelg, severally praying, that the Bill to re-unite the North
and South Ridings of the County of Grey for Registration purposes, may not pass.
Of the Township Council of Mornington, praying that an Act may pass to legalize a
certain By-law granting Aid to the Stratford and Huron Railway Company.
Of the Township Council of Adelaide, praying that an Act may pass to authorize
them to sell certain property.
Of the Village Council of Fort Erie, praying thnt an Act]]may pass to annex certain
portions of the Township of Bertie to the Village of Fort Erie.
Two Petitions of the County Council of Middlesex, praying for certain amendments
to the Municipal Act.
Of John McMullin and others, of Brockville ; also, of F. W. Beebe and others, of Co-
lourg; also, of R. L. Chandler and others, of St. Thomas, severally praying for the aboli-
tion of the Book Depository.
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Of the Town Council of Cobourg ; also, of the County Council of Middlesex ; also, of
the Town Council of Owen Sound, severally praying for certain amendments to the Assess-
ment Act with respect to the Exemption Clauses.
Of the County Council of Middlesex, praying for certain amendments to the Assess-
ment Act with respect to Statute Labour.
Of the County Council of Elgin ; also, of the County Council of Middlesex, severally
praying for certain amendments to the Ontario Medical Act.
" Of the School Board of Windsor ; also of the County Council of Middlesex ; also, of
the School Board of Strathroy ; also, of the School Board of Collingwood ; also, of the
School Board of Napanee, severally praying for certain amendments to the School Act.
Of the County Council of Middlesex, praying for certain amendments to the Registry
Act.
Of W. H. Miller and others of Toronto ; also, of J. Widmer Rolph and others of
Toronto ; also, of R. H. Clarke and others, of Northumberland ; also, of Charles W. Covernton
and others, of Norfolk ; also, of E. W. Spragge and others, of Toronto ; also, of J. /. Hil-
lary and others, of Uxbridge, severally praying that an Act may pass to incorporate Trinity
Medical School.
Of Orange Lodge No. 885 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 9 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
66 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 702 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 449 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 89 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 694 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 209 ; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 1,053 : also, of Orange Lodge No. 877 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
605; also, of Orange Lodge No. 450 ; also, of Orange Lodge 'No. 450; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 533 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 589 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 73 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 16, all of South Simcoe ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Bradford ; also,
of the Orange Lodge of Barrie ; also, of the Orange Lodge of South Simcoe; also, of the
Orange Lodge of Grey; also, of Orange Lodge No. 509 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,383 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 632 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 244 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 1,192 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 668, all of South Grey ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
1,186 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 981 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 831 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 543 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 537; also, of Orange Lodge No. 517 ; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 658 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 593, all of Middlesex ; also, of
Orange Lodge of Central Addington ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 728; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 532 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 368, all of Lennox ; also, of Orange Lodge,
No. 1,031 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 997 ; also, of the Orange Lodge No. 1,322 ; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 1,302 ; also, of the Orange Lodge No. 101 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 801 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,387 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 828 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 896 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 67 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
992 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,319 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 611, all of South Grey ;
also, of the Orange Lodge of Sullivan ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Owen Sound ; also,
of the Town Council of Owen Sound ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Barrie ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 644 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 622 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 649 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,119 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 985, all of North Simcoe ; also,
of the Orange Lodge of Cold Springs; also, of Orange Lodge No. 891 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 822 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 957 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 957 ; also, of
Orange Lodge 686 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 167 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 167 ; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 796 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 665 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 168,
all of South Ontario ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 83 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 141 ; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 149 ; also, of Orange Lodge No 279 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 385 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 388 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 420 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 421 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 424 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 532 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 769 ; also, of Orange Lodge, No 785 ; also, of Orange Lodge 1,022 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 1,062 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 44 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 75,
all of Durham; also, of the Orange Lodge of Port Hope ; also, of Orange Lodge of East
Durham ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,055, of Kent ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 720 ; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 117 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 573, all of Lincoln ; also, of Orange
Lodge of Niagara ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Malahide ; also, of Orange Lodge of Elgin ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 583 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 954 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
511, all of North Ontario ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 901 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,212;
54 18TH JANUARY. 1877.
also, of Orange Lodge No. 292 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 310 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
297 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 298 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 763, all of West Middlesex;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,218 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 808 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 1,225; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,140 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,283, all of
Essex ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 166 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 245, all of Halton ; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 112; also, of Orange Lodge No. 351 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
655; also, of Orange Lodge No. 531 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 970; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 656, all of Perth; also, of the Orange Lodge of Wallace; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 503 ; also, Orange Lodge No. 470, all of Renfrew ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 162, of
South Frontenac ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 162, of South Frontenac; also, of the Orange
Lodge of Dalhousie ; also, of Orange Lodge of Metcalf ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1 ; also,
of Orange Lodge of Russell ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,330 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
1,312 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,257 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 810 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 757 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 706 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 407 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 395 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 357 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 222 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 205 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 268, all of Russell; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 373 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 57 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 326 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 338 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 525 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 541 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 476 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 30 ; also, of Orange
Lodge of Fitzroy, all of Carleton ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 966 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 1,106, all of Essex ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Wentivortli; also, of the Orange Lodge
of Ancaster ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Markham ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Scar-
borough; also, of Orange Lodge No. 858 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 791 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 188, London ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 590; also, of Orange Lodge No. 91;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 516; also, of Orange Lodge No. 415 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No, 736, all of North York ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 211 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 142 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 807 ; also, Orange Lodge No. 455 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
696 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 260, all of Peel ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 307, of Elgin ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,409, of Monck ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 312 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 779, all of Wentworth; also, of Orange Lodge No. 687; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 1,151 ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Enniskillen, all of Lambton; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 570, of Ontario ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 423, of Elgin; also, of the Orange Lodge of
Lincoln ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 41 4. of Orillia ; also, of Orange Lodge of Monck ; also, of the
Orange Lodge of Brant ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Kent ; also, of the Orange Lodge of
Springfield ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Elginfield ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Howick ;
also, of the Orange Lodge of Turnbury ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 794 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 873 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 560, all of Huron ; also, of Orange Lodge of
Paisley ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Goivan ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Watkerton ; also,
of the Orange Lodge of Carlingford ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 759 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 313 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 768 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 707 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 591 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 518 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 492 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 45, all of Perth; also, of Orange Lodge 493 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
1,210, all of Huron ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 286 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 286 ; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 71 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 554 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 776,
all of Wentworth; also, of Orange Lodge No. 778 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 426, all of
York ; also of Orange Lodge of Wellington West ; also of Orange Lodge of Welland ; also
of the Orange Lodge of Peel ; also, of the Orange Lodge of West Ontario ; also, of the
Orange Lodge of East Bruce ; also of the Orange Lodge of North Huron ; also, of the,
Orange Lodge of North York, severally praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the Loyal
Orange Association of Ontario, East and West.
Mr. Deroche, From the, Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented their
Fourth Report, which was read as follows :— -
The Committee have examined the following Petitions, and find that the Rules of
the House have been complied with therein : —
Of the Bothwell Land and Petroleum Company, praying that an Act may pass to pro-
vide for the winding up of the affairs of the Company.
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Of the Hamilton and North Western Kail way Company, praying that an Act may
pass to amend their Act of Incorporation, and to make valid certain By-laws granting aid
to said Railway.
Of John Leys and others, of Sault Ste. Marie, praying that an Act may pass to extend
the limits of the Municipality of Sault Ste. Marie.
Of Pickering Harbour and Road Company, praying that an Act may pass to authorize
them to issue Debentures.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of the Peel General Manufacturing
Company, praying that an Act may pass to amend their Act of Incorporation, and find
that no notices of such intended application have been published in the Ontario Gazette,
and but one notice in the local paper ; the Committee, however, deeming it a matter of
no public importance, and not affecting any private or vested rights, recommend the sus-
pension of the Rule therein.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of the Corporation of the City of
Toronto, praying that an Act may pass declaring the validity of a certain By-law of the
said City, and confirming the same, the Committe find that the full term of notice has
not been given, either in the Ontario Gazette, or in the local papers ; but considering that
the matter has been before the ratepayers, and voted on by them, the Committee are of
opinion that sufficient publicity has been given to the same, and recommend the suspen-
sion of the Rule in this case.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of the Corporation of the City of
Toronto, praying that an Act may pass amending the Toronto Street Railway Act, and
Acts amending the same ; the Committee find that notice of the intended application has
been inserted five times in the Ontario Gazette, once in the Toronto Daily Globe, and three
times in the Toronto Daily Mail ; the Committee consider this a matter in which the full
term of notice, as required by the Rules of the House, should be given, and, therefore,
report that the Rules of your Honourable House have not been complied with in the
matter of the foregoing Petition.
On motion of the Honourable Mr. Cameron, seconded by Mr. Sell,
Ordered, That that portion of the Fourth Report be referred back to the Committee
on Standing Orders, with instructions to report the publication of notice in the Ontario
Gazette and local papers regarding the Act of the City of Toronto amending the Toronto
Street Railway Company Act as sufficient.
The following Bills were severally introduced, and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 37), intituled " An Act to amend the Act of Incorporation of the Canadian
Literary Institute of Woodstock." — The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 88), intituled "An Act to amend the Assessment Act of 1875-76."— Mr.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 43), intituled "An Act to Incorporate the Niagara ¥and St. Catharines
Railroad Company."— The Honourable Mr. McDougall.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 72), intituled " An Act respecting the Municipality of Sault Ste. Marie. —
Mr. Dawson.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 60), intituled "An Act to provide for the winding up of the Bothwcll (C. W.)
Land and Petroleum Company. — Mr. McCraney.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (64), intituled " An Act to legalize a certain By-law, and certain Debentures of
the City of Toronto." — The Honourable Mr. Cameron.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
56 18TH JANUARY. 1877.
Bill (No. 89), intituled " An Act to amend the Act respecting Jurors and Juries." —
Mr. Ross.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 63), intituled " An Act respecting the Presbyterian Church at Orillia," —
Mr. Hardy.
Referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills.
Bill (No. 90), intituled " An Act to provide for the Election of School Trustees by
Ballot."— Mr. Ross.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 85). intituled " An Act respecting the Peel General Manufacturing Com-
pany."— Mr. Chisholm.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 91), intituled "An Act to amend the Act respecting Municipal Institutions
of Ontario." — Mr. Springer.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 67), respecting Escheats
and Forfeitures ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and
Mr. Clarke (Wellington) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill
with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 70), Respecting
References to the Supreme Court of Canada, and the Exchequer Court of Canada in certain
cases ; and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke
(Wellington') reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without
any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into a Committee of Supply.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That there be granted to Her Majesty for the service of the year 1877, the
following sums : —
13. To defray the expenses of the Court of Chancery, as follow : —
Master $3,000 00
Taxing Officer 1,400 00
Clerk 1,000 00
JuniorClerk 600 00
Clerk 1,200 00
Registrar - 2,100 00
First Assistant Registrar , 1,200 00
Second Assistant Registrar 1,000 09
Clerk '. , 600 00
Clerk 500 00
Clerk of Records 1,200 00
Clerk ,. 650 00
Referee in Chambers 2,000 00
Clerk 900 00
Usher of Court «... 600 00
Messenger and Housekeeper 400 00
Contingencies, including $200 for Judges' Library 1,795 00
Total $20,145 00
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14. To defray the expenses of the Court of Queen's Bench, as follow : —
Clerk of Crown and Pleas , $3,000 00
Senior Clerk..... 1,400 00
Clerk 1,300 00
Junior Clerk 600 00
Clerk of Process ' 1,400 00
Assistant Clerk of Process 500 00
Housekeeper and Messenger : 500 00
Usher and Crier 160 00
Assistant Messenger 16© 00
Contingencies, including $100 for Judges' Library 500 00
Total $9,520 00
15. To defray the expenses of the Court of Common Pleas, as follow : —
Clerk of Crown and Pleas $2,500 00
Senior Clerk 1,400 00
Junior Clerk 1,000 00
Usher and Crier ..., , 140 00
Contingencies, including $100 for Judges' Library 300 00
Total $5,340 00
16. To defray expenses of allowances to Superior Judges and Court of Appeal as follow : —
Allowances granted by 33 Fie., cap. 5, Ont. Stat $13,000 00
Registrar of Court of Appeal 2,000 00
Usher and Crier 50 00
Assistant Messenger 160 00
Law Library 100 00
Contingencies 300 00
Total . $15,610 00
17. To defray the expenses of Practice, and other Courts, as follow : —
Clerk of Practice Court $1,800 00
Clerk of Surrogate Court (including expense of assistance) 2,000 00
Clerk of Assize ... 1,000 09
Expenses '. 60 00
Total 4)86() 00
18. To defray the expenses of Criminal Justice, as follow : —
Crown Counsel Prosecutions $11,200 00
Administration of Criminal Justice 120,'oOO 00
Special Services... 2,000 00
To meet payments to witnesses in Criminal cases 20,000 00
To meet balance of unpaid accounts for Administration of
Justice ^.. 10,000 00
Total $163 00 CO
19. To defray the expenses of Miscellaneous Justice, as follow : —
Deputy Clerks of the Crown and Pleas .* $16,000 00
H
58 18TH JANUARY. 1877.
DISTRICT OF ALGOMA :
Sheriff $1,400 00
Kegistrar , 800 00
Clerk of the Peace and District Attorney 800 00
Clerk of the District Court 500 00
Administration of Justice 4,000 00
DISTRICT OF THUNDER BAY :
Stipendiary Magistrate and Registrar 1,200 00
Administration of Justice 3,500 00
DISTRICT OF NIPISSING :
Stipendiary Magistrate and Kegistrar 1,400 00
Administration of Justice 500 00
DISTRICT OF PARRY SOUND :
Stipendiary Magistrate and Registrar 1,400 00
Administration of Justice 600 00
DISTRICT OF MUSKOKA :
Stipendiary Magistrate and Registrar 1,000 00
Administration of Justice 500 00
PROVISIONAL COUNTY OF HALIBURTON :
Stipendiary Magistrate and Registrar 1,000 00
Administration of Justice , 500 00
PROVINCIAL POLICE:
Salary of Police Magistrate, Clijton and Fort Erie 1,000 00
Administration of Justice " " 4,24750
OTHER SERVICES :
To pay Sheriffs, Criers and Constables in attending Courts
of Chancery and County Courts, Deputy Clerks of the
Crown and Pleas attending Assiaes, and their Postages,
&c 6,000 00
Seals and other contingencies 500 00
Registration Books for Muskoka, Parry Sound and Thunder
Bay 200 00
Lighting and heating Otgoode Hall 3,000 00
Furniture, Matting, &c., Osgoode Hall 500 00
Shorthand Reporters , 7,000 00
Total $57,547 50
20. To defray the expenses of Public and Separate Schools $240,000 00
21. To defray the expenses of the Inspection of Public and Separate Schools, as follow :
5,050 Schools and Departments, at $5 $25,250 00
Additional cost of inspecting and organising Schools in
Algoma, Nipissing, and other remote settlements 2,500 00
Printing Inspectors' Annual and Special Reports, including
paper 450 00
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Postages, stationery and contingencies $400 00
Total $28 600 00
22. To defray the expenses of Schools in new and poor Townships ,... $12,000 00
23. To defray the expenses of Collegiate Institutes and High Schools, as follow : —
Existing High Schools ...$72,000 00
Collegiate Institutes , 6,000 00
Total $78,000 00
24. To defray the expenses of the Inspection of Collegiate Institutes and High Schools,
as follow : —
Three Inspectors $6,000 00
Travelling allowances 600 00
Six Sub-Examiners of Inter mediate Examination Papers 400 00
Office and inspectors' stationery, printing examination papers,
postage and contingencies 1,200 00
Total $8,200 00
25. To defray the expenses of the Central Committee of Examiners, as follow : —
Central Committee of Examiners $1,800 00
Travelling expenses 400 00
Printing examination papers, forms of certificates, &c 750 00
Postages, stationery and contingencies 400 00
Medals for competition, Teachers' examination 100 00
Revision of Text Books 1,000 00
Examining and Reporting on Library and Prize Books,
1876-7 2,000 00
Total $6,450 00
27. To defray the expenses of Superannuated Public SchoolTeachers $35,500 00
28. To defray the expenses of Normal and Model Schools at Toronto, as follow i
SALARIES :
The Principal $2,000 00
Science master , 1,800 00
Mathematical master 1,500 00
Writing and book-keeping master 900 00
Drawing master 600 00
Music master 500 00
Gymnastic master » 300 00
Head master of boys' model school 1,200 00
First assistant 1,000 00
Second assistant 800 00
Third assistant 700 00
Head mistress of girls' model school 1,000 00
First assistant 80000
Second assistant 700 00
Third assistant 650 00
Clerk of the normal and model school 600 00
Head gardener and keeper of grounds 410 00
First engineer 410 00
60 18TH JAN17AHY. 1877.
Second engineer $400 00
Third engineer 36000
Janitor of normal school 450 00
Janitor of boys' model school ... 420 00
Janitor of girls' model school , 400 00
Assistant gardener 400 00
EXPENSES :
Half cost of stationery and text-books (other half paid by the
students) 2,500 00
Half cost of maps, apparatus and library books (other half
paid out of library, map and apparatus grant) 550 00
Half cost of prize books for model school pupils (other half
paid out of library, map and apparatus grant) 250 00
Large models of mechanical powers, geological specimens and
instruments for voeal music 950 00
Text and reference books for masters, and reading room for
students 200 00
Printing and stationery, chemicals and supplies 500 00
Expenses of grounds, plants and plant-house 650 00
Fuel and light 1,750 00
Water 550 00
Contingencies 550 00
Total $26,750 OQ
29. To defray the expenses of the Provincial Educational Museum and Library, as follow : —
Specimens of school furniture and fittings, apparatus and
maps $1,200 00
Yarious models 800 00
Books and illustrations of Canadian history 200 00
Casts, photographs and engravings 200 00
Frames, glass, paintings and fittings 400 00
Binding Canadian books and pamphlets 100 00
Restoring casts, pictures, and re- colouring rooms 200 00
Fuel, water and light 450 00
Printing, furnishings and contingencies 200 00
Caretaker... 200 00
Total $3,950 00
30. To defray the expenses of the Journal of Education, as follow : —
Printing, folding and mailing 6,500 copies, at $150 per month $1,860 00
Postages on 6,500 copies 200 00
Plans for school-houses and grounds 100 00
Engraving illustrations 100 00
Periodicals and incidentals 100 00
Total $2,360 00
33. To defray the expenses of the Education Office, as follow : —
SALARIES :
Deputy Minister $2,800 00
Secretary and accountant 1,800 00
Chief clerk 1,200 00
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Clerk of statistics $1,000 00
Clerk of correspondence . 900 00
Clerk of reference 500 00
Assistant accountant 600 00
Assistant clerk of correspondence 500 00
Second assistant clerk of correspondence 450 00
Clerk of returns 400 00
Assistant clerk 40000
Junior clerk 250 '00
Caretaker 500 00
EXPENSES :
Postages 550 00
Printing circulars, blanks and paper 600 00
Fuel and light 500 00
Office stationery and account books ,... 400 00
Books, newspapers, law and other reports 200 00
Public School Law , 300 00
15,000 yearly and half-yearly blank forms, for trustees, &c... 300 00
Law appeal cases (re- vote) 250 00
Office furniture and fixtures, petty repairs and various in-
cidentals , 450 00
6,000 copies annual Report, 1876 1,500 00
Retiring allowance to Dr. Ryerson 4,000 00
Total $20,350 00
34. To defray th3 expenses of the Normal School, Ottawa, as follow : —
SALARIES :
The Principal $2,000 00
Mathematical master 1,500 00
Science master 1,500 00
Writing and book-keeping master 200 00
Drawing master.. 150 00
Music master 150 00
Clerk 800 00
First engineer and gardener 600 00
Second engineer and assistant gardener 360 00
Two labourers on grounds in summer, at $240 480 00
Janitor 360 00
To pay for scrubbing and cleaning 150 00
EXPENSES :
Half cost of stationery and text-books (other half paid by the
students) 2,000 00
Half cost of maps, apparatus and library books (other half
out of library, map and apparatus grant) 600 00
Text and reference books for masters, and reading-room for
students 200 00
Printing and stationery, chemicals and supplies 400 00
Expenses of grounds (including plants, shrubs, &c.) 400 00
Fuel and light 1,200 00
Water 300 00
Contingencies 500 00
Total.. .. $13,850 00
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Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington'), reported, That theCom-
mittee had come to several Resolutions ; and, That the Committee had directed him to ask
leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received To-morrow.
Resolved, That this House will again resolve itself into a Committee of Supply To-
morrow.
The House then adjourned at 11.20 P.M.
Friday, 19th January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Mr. McDougall — The Petition of the Township Council of Sunni-
dale ; also, the Petition of the Township Council of West Gwillimbury ; also, the Petition of
the Township Council of Fespra ; also, the Petition of the Township Council of Mulmur.
By Mr. Merrick — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 204, of Welland ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge of Mornington ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Brock ; also, the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge of Albion ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of North Leeds ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge of Norwood ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 549 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 522 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 284 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 281 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 34. all of
East Peterborough ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 451 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 97 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 444 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 348, all of Frontenac ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Portland.
By Mr. Boulter — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,291, of South Hastings; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,183 ; also, the Petition of Orange No. 509, all of North
Hastings ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Bangor.
By Mr. Preston — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Lansdowne ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge of South Crosby ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 226 ; also, the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge No, 331 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 183; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 485, all of South Leeds.
By Mr. Wills— The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 274, of Hastings.
By Mr. Rosevear — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 40 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 853 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 456 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 309 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 82 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 79 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 64 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 50 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 46, all of Durham ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Manvers ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of
Cavan ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Hope.
By Mr. Deroche — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 756 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 431 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1113, all of Lennox.
By Mr. Flesher — The Petition of Orange Lodge No 540 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 467 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 429, all of North Perth ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge, No. 358, of Wentworth ; also the Petition of Orange
Lodge of East York ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge of Kincardine ; also the Petition of
Orange Lodge of West Bruce.
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By Mr. Hardy— The Petition of the School Board of Scotland.
By Mr. Clarke (Wellington)— The Petition of the School Board of Elora.
By Mr. Patterson (York} — The Petition of the Toronto Street Railway Company.
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of R. S. Gurd and others, of Sarnia, praying for certain amendments to the Drainage Act.
Of the High School Board of Pakenham ; also of the High School Board of Listowel,
severally praying for certain amendments to the School Act.
Of Dr. Hildreth and others, of Northumberland, praying that an Act may pass to incor-
porate Trinity Medical School.
Mr. Deroche, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented their Fifth
Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have duty examined the following Petitions, aud find that the Rules
of the House have been complied with therein : —
Of the Corporation of the City of Ottawa, praying that an Act may pass authorizing
them to raise money for Water Works Extension.
Of the Corporation of the City of Ottawa, praying that an Act may pass authorizing
the Corporation to change the names of certain streets in the City.
Of the Incorporated Synod of the Diocese of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass
to enable them to conduct inquiries upon oath.
Of the Town Council of Cobourg, praying that an Act may pass to enable them to
grant bonuses to certain manufactories.
Of the Upper Canada Bible Society, praying that an Act may pass to amend their
Act of incorporation.
Of W. H. Cutten and others, of Guelph, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate
the Guelph Street Railway Company.
Of the Incorporated Synod of the Diocese of Huron, praying that an Act may pass to
authorize them to sell certain lands for the benefit of St. Mary's Church, Warwick.
Of P. D. Conger, and others, of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate
the People's Gas Company, of Toronto.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of the Village Council of Fort
Erie, praying that an Act may pass to annex a certain portion of the Township of Bertie
to the Village of Fort Erie; the Committee find that the notices of such intended appli-
cation have been published four times in the Ontario Gazette, and in the local papers,
and, considering that by such publication all parties interested have been sufficiently noti-
fied, the Committee recommend the suspension of the Rule in this case.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of the Township Council of Adelaide,
praying that an Act may pass authorizing the sale of certain property known as St.
George's Square, and the investment of the proceeds thereof in other lands for similar
purposes. The Petition is founded on a resolution of the Council, and signed by the
Reeve and Township Clerk, and from the fact of such action being taken, the Committee
are of opinion that the parties interested are sufficiently aware of the application, and
they, therefore, recommend the suspension of the Rule in this case.
The Committee have also had before them the Petition of the Corporation of the
City of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass amending the Toronto Street Railway Act
and Acts amending the same, referred back to the Committee from the House, " with in-
structions to report the publication of notice in the Ontario Gazette and local papers as
sufficient ; " in accordance with the foregoing instructions the Committee report the said
Notice as sufficient.
The Committee have also examined the Petition of the St. Catharines Street Railway
Company, praying that an Act may pass to extend the time for the commencement of
operations, and find that the full term of notice has not been given in the Ontario Gazette,
64 19TH JANUARY. 1877.
and that no local notices have been produced before the Committee ; the Committee report
that the Rules of the House have not been complied with in the matter of this Petition.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 39), intituled " An Act to incorporate the People's Gas Company." — Mr. Bell.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 50), intituled " An Act to enable the Diocese of Toronto to conduct inquiries
upon oath." — Mr. Bethune.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 65), intituled " An Act respecting the Village of Fort Erie." — Mr. Gibson.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 48), intituled " An Act relating to the Hamilton and North Western Railway
Company." — Mr. Williams.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 57), intituled, " An Act to enable the Corporation of Cobourg to aid certain
Manufacturing Establishments." — Mr. Har graft.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 4), intituled, " An Act to amend the Water Works Acts of the City of
Ottawa" — Mr. O'Donoghue.
Referred to Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No 35), intituled " An Act to change the names of certain streets in the City of
Ottawa." — Mr. O'Donoghue.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 92), intituled " An Act to empower the Council of the Municipality of the
Township of Adelaide to sell certain lands." — Mr. McDougall (Middlesex).
Referred to the Commissioner of Estate Bills.
Bill (No. 13), intituled " An Act to authorize the Synod of the Diocese of Huron to
sell certain lands in the Township of Warwick."' — Mr. Meredith.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 52), intituled "An Act to incorporate the Guelph Street Railway Company.''
— Mr. Massie.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 16), intituled " An Act to amend the Act incorporating the Upper Canada
Bible Society." — The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 53), intituled "An Act respecting the Toronto Street Railway Company. "-
The Honourable Mr. Cameron.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 76), intituled, " An Act to incorporate the Canadian Industrial Exhibition
Company." — The Honourable Mr. Cameron.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
On motion of Mr. Widdifield, seconded by Mr. Striker,
Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to the Lieutenant-Governor, praying
that he will cause to be laid before this House , 1 st. A copy of the Minutes of all meet-
ings of the Senate of the University of Toronto held during the years 1874, 1875, and
1876, relating to the affiliation of Medical Schools with the University of Toronto,
with the names of the members of the Senate present at each meeting. These Minutes
40 Vic. 19TH JANUARY. 65
to include all notices of motion — a copy of all resolutions, and of any report or reports
which may have been offered — or which the Seriate may have passed during that
period, bearing upon the subject of the existing affiliations of Medical Schools with
the University of Toronto ; also, the names of members of the Senate who may have given
notice of any motions, or moved or seconded any resolutions or the adoption of any re-
port or reports of the Senate upon the said subject of Medical School affiliation ; also, a
list of the Yeas and Nays in any case where these may have been recorded.
2nd. A copy of all correspondence which may have taken place between the Govern-
ment arid the said Medical Schools now affiliated to the said University of Toronto, with
a copy of all replies from the said Schools received by Government.
3rd. A copy of any order or orders in Council which may have been passed by Gov-
ernment relating to the subject of medical affiliations with the said University of Toronto.
On motion of Mr. Dawson, seconded by Mr. Striker,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return exhibiting the amount ex-
pended by the Government of Ontario, during and since the summer of 1868, up to the
present time, on Colonization Roads in the District of Algoma (other than in that part of
the said District known as the Grand Manitoulin Island), shewing the different roads made
or undertaken, and the sums expended thereon in each year.
Mr. Wills moved, seconded by Mr. O'Sullivan,
That a Select Committee be appointed to enquire into losses sustained by the late
Mr. John O'Carroll, of Belleville, in the Rebellion of 1837-8, with power to send for per-
sons and papers.
And the Motion, having been put, was lost on a division.
On motion of Mr. Wills, seconded by Mr. Boulter,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return respecting Timber Licenses,
shewing —
1st. The names of the several Licensees.
2nd. The number of acres respectively held by said Licensees.
3rd. The amount of license dues now in arrears by said Licensees, if any.
4th. All other dues or fees now in arrear on account of timber or saw logs or other
materials taken from said lands by each of said Licensees, and also shewing the amounts
respectively due on the 31st of December, 1875.
5th. The amounts respectively paid in on account of said license dues, &c., respecti-
vely during the year 1876.
6th. The nature and amount of the security taken for dues, &c., or arrearages, if any.
On motion of Mr. Graham, seconded by Mr. Bishop,
Ordered, That the names of Messieurs Walter worth, Tooley, Appleby and Grant be
added to the Select Committee on Bill (No. 80), Agriculture and Arts.
The following Bill was read the third time, and passed : —
Bill (No. 70), Respecting References to the Supreme Court of Canada and the Ex-
chequer Court of Canada.
The Amendments made in Committee on Bill (No. 67), Respecting Escheats and For-
feitures having been read a second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, - That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 73), To amend the Act respecting Dentistry.
Referred to a Select Committee composed as follows : — Messieurs Deroche, Wilson,
Clarke (Norfolk), Baxter, Haney, Mostyn, Deacon and Boulter.
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Bill (No. 36), Respecting the Church of St. Alban the Martyr, in Ottawa.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 82), Respecting payments to unorganized Townships, or parts of Districts
under the Munieipal Loan Fund Scheme.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 22), Respecting the Roman Catholic Episcopal Corporation of the Diocese
of Hamilton.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 68), To Amend and
Repeal certain enactments of the last Session of the Legislature of this Province, and after
sometime spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington),
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments,
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration on Monday next.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
Report of L'Institut Oanadien Francais de la Cite $ Ottawa. (Sessional Papers No. 25.)
Also, a Return in obedience to an Order of the House, showing the number of High
Schools in operation during the year 1876 ; number and location of such schools as
have been ordered to be closed during the present year, and the reason of such closing.
(Sessional Papers No. 26.)
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into a Committee of Supply.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, — That there be granted to Her Majesty, for the service of the year 1877,
the following sums : —
35. To defray the expenses of the maintenance of the Asylum for the Insane, Toronto, as
follow : —
SALARIES AND WAGES :
No. of officers
and employees.
Medical Superintendent 1 |2,000 00
Assistant Superintendent 1 1,00000
Clinical assistants 2 600 00
Bursar ... 1 .... 1,40000
Storekeeper 1 600 00
Steward 1 70000
Matron 1 40000
Assistant matron 1 19200
Engineer 1 740 00
Assistant engineer 1 432 00
Stokers 2 504 00
Carpenters 2 .... 1,050 00
Gardener 1 216 00
Assistant gardener 1 216 00
Porter or messenger 1 240 00
Bakers 2 350 00
Tailor 1 400 00
Farmer and assistant 2 480 00
Night watchers 3 720 00
Chief attendants 7 1,848 00
Ordinary male attendants 17 3,55200
FEMALES :
Chief attendants... 6 672 00
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Ordinary female attendants 17 $1,65600
Night attendants 3 36000
Cooks 9 948 00
Laundresses 7 69600
Housemaids 5 46800
Seamstress 1 ; 108 00
EXPENSES : 98
Medicine and medical comforts $ 350 00
Fuel 11,500 00
Butchers' meat , 12,500 00
Flour.. 8,000 00
Butter 4,500 00
Beer, wine and spirits 1,850 00
Gas and oil... 2,300 00
Groceries 8,000 00
Fruit and vegetables 750 00
Bedding, clothing and shoes 6,000 00
Furniture and furnishings 1,500 00
Laundry and soap 1,500 00
Farm 1,500 00
Miscellaneous 1,500 00
Repairs and alterations 2,000 00
Printing, postage, and stationery 750 00
Total , ..$87,480 00
36. To defray the expenses of the maintenance of the Asylum for the Insane, London, as
follow : —
SALARIES AND WAGES : N«. of Officers
and employees.
Medical Superintendent $2,000 00
Assistant Superintendent 1 1,00000
Clinical assistant 1 60000
Bursar 1 1,200 00
Steward 1 600 00
Matron , 1 400 00
Engineer 1 740 00
Bricklayer and plasterer 1 550 00
Stokers 4 .... 1,10400
Carpenters 2 1,050 00
Gardener 1 $400 00
Assistant gardener 1 .... 24000
Butcher 1 216 00
Porter or messenger 1 192 00
Baker 1 36000
Assistant baker 1 192 00
Tailor 1 264 00
Farmer 1 400 00
Ploughmen 2 672 00
Night watchers 2 480 00
Chief attendants... 5 1,356 00
Ordinary male attendants 17 3,576 00
Cowman ....... 1 216 00
FEMALES :
Chief attendants 3 540 00
Ordinary female attendants 18 2,160 00
Night attendants... 2 240 00
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Cooks 4 $540 00
Laundresses 4 456 00
Housemaids 7 696 00
Dairymaid 1 120 00
Seamstress 2 240 00
EXPENSES : 90
Medicine and medical comforts $350 00
Fuel 11,500 00
Butchers' meat 12,500 00
Flour 6,500 00
Butter 4,000 00
Beer, wine and spirits , 1,850 00
Gas and oil 2,300 00
Groceries 7,500 00
Fruit and vegetables 1,000 00
Bedding, clothing and shoes 7,000 00
Furniture and furnishings 1,500 00
Laundry and soap , , 1,750 00
Farm, feed and fodder 2,000 00
Miscellaneous 1,500 00
Repairs and alterations 2,00000
Printing, postage and stationery 750 00
Total $86,800 00
37. To defray the expenses of the maintenance of the Asylum for the Insane,
Rockwood, Kingston, as follow : —
Maintenance of Ontario Patients at Rockwood Asylum, for food, clothing,
medical attendance, &c., &c., for 365 patients, at $1.43 per annum
each $52,195 00
38. To defray the expenses of the Asylum for the Insane, Hamilton, as follow : —
SALARIES : NO. of officers
and emplopees.
Medical Superintendent 1 $1,600 00
Assistant do 1 70000
Bursar 1 800 00
Engineer 1 600 00
Assistant Engineer 1 24000
Carpenter 1 500 00
Gardener and Farmer 1 400 00
Messenger and Porter 1 200 00
Chief Attendant 1 300 00
Night Watch 1 24000
Ordinary Male Attendants 5 1,200 00
Extra assistance * 1 240 00
FEMALES :
Matron 1 300 00
Chief Attendant 1 .... 200 00
Ordinary Female Attendants 8 960 00
Night Attendant • 1 120 00
Cooks 2 .... 26400
Laundresses 3 38400
Housemaids.., 4 43200
Seamstress and Tailoress 1 .... 14400
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EXPENSES :
Medicine and medical comforts $100 00
Beer, wine and spirits 500 00
Fuel : 3,000 00
Butchers' meat, fish and fowl 4,000 00
Flour 1,600 00
Butter 1,500 00
Gas and oil 1,000 00
Groceries 4,000 00
Fruit and vegetables 1,200 00
Bedding, clothing and shoes 2,200 00
Laundry, soap and cleaning 750 00
Furniture and furnishings 500 00
Farm, feed and fodder 750 00
Repairs and alterations 500 00
Miscellaneous 1,200 CO
Water Supply 500 00
Printing, postage and stationery 350 00
Total $33,474 00
39. To defray the expenses of the Asylum for Idiots, Orillia, as follows : —
SALARIES :
Medical Superintendent 1 $1,600 00
Bursar '. 1 80000
Engineer 1 60000
Assistant Engineer 1 240 00
Gardener 1 300 00
Chief Attendant 1 300 00
Night Watch 1 24000
Ordinary Male Attendants 4 960 00
Messenger and Porter 1 240 00
FEMALES :
Matron 1 300 00
Chief Attendant ... 1 200 00
Ordinary Female Attendants 4 48000
Night Attendant 1 120 00
Cooks.... . ... 2 25200
Laundresses .. 2 252 00
Housemaids 4 38400
Seamstress 1 200 00
Extra assistance 250 00
Medicines and medical comforts 200 00
Fuel 2,000 00
Butchers' meat, fish and fowl 2,500 00
Flour 1,500 00
Butter 1,200 00
Gas and oil 500 00
Groceries 2,000 00
Fruit and vegetables 60000
Bedding, clothing and shoes 1,500 00
Laundry, soap and cleaning 400 00
Furniture and furnishings 400 00
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Farm, feed and fodder $<00 00
Repairs and alterations 400 00
Miscellaneous 600 00
Milk 600 00
$22,518 00
40. To defray the expenses of the Provincial Reformatory, Penetanguishene, as
follow : —
SALARIES :
No. of officers
and employees.
Warden 1 $1,60000
Bursar and Deputy Warden 1 85000
Surgeon 1 500 00
Steward and Chief Guard... 1 60000
Chaplains 2 800 00
Teachers , 2 80000
Keepers and Trade Instructors 4 1,60000
Keepers, ordinary 5 1,840 00
Farmer 1 40000
Stable-keeper 1 . ... 26000
Day Guard and Drill Instructor 1 26000
NightGuards 2 72000
Gatekeeper 1 260 00
Temporary assistance 200 00
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EXPENSES :
Rations 5,500 00
Clothing 2,800 00
Bedding 700 00
Farm, farm stock and stables 500 00
Hospital 100 00
Library and schools 500 00
Cleaning, light and laundry 450 00
Furniture, tools and shop fixtures 500 00
Repairs, ordinary 500 00
Incidentals 700 00
Postage and stationery 250 00
Total $23,190 00
41. To defray the expenses of the Central Prison, as follow : —
SALARIES :
No. of officers
and employees.
Warden 1 $2,000 00
Bursar « 1 1,200 00
Physician 1 1,000 00
Chief Guard 1 800 00
Steward and Storekeeper 1 60000
Prison Bailiff 1 .... 800 00
Day Guards and Shop Supervisors 22 8,800 00
Deputy Chief Guard 1 600 00
Engineer 1 740 00
BakerandCook 1 60000
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EXPENSES :
Medicine and medical comforts $200 00
Butchers' meat and fish 7,000 00
Flour, bread and meal , 5,000 00
Groceries 4,00000
Bedding, clothing and shoes ... 5,500 00
Fuel 3,500 00
Gas and oil 1,500 00
Laundry, soap and cleaning 750 00
Stationery, advertising, printing and postage 400 00
Library, schools and lectures *. 400 00
Furniture and furnishings 500 00
Stable, forage &c 500 00
Repairs, &c . 500 00
Unenumerated 1,000 00
Total $47,890 00
42. To defray the expenses of the Institution for the Deaf and Dumb, Belleville, as fol-
low : —
SALARIES :
No. of officers
and employees.
Principal 1 ..... $1,800 00
Physician 1 500 00
Bursar 1 80000
Matron 1 300 00
Teachers 12 7,300 00
Visitors' attendant and telegraph operator .
Housekeeper
Engineer
Fireman
Farmer
Farm hand
Gardener
Baker and Cook
Night watchman
100 00
200 00
600 00
240 00
400 00
228 00
240 00
400 00
240 00
650 00
500 00
84 00
Cook 1 132 00
Maids 12 1,10400
Supervisor of boys 1 9000
Carpenter and assistant
Shoemaker
Messenger
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EXPENSES :
Medicine and medical comforts 125 00
Butchers' meat, fish and fowl 5,000 00
Flour 2,000 00
Butter 1,500 00
Groceries 2300 00
Fruit and vegetables 600 00
Bedding, clothing and shoes 400 00
Fuel 3,000 00
Gas and oil 1,200 00
Laundry, soap and cleaning 500 00
Furniture and furnishing 500 00
Farm, feed and fodder 600 00
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Repairs and alterations $500 00
Advertising, printing, stationery and postage 400 00
Books, apparatus and appliances 400 00
Unenumerated... ,. 750 00
Total : $35,863 00
43. To defray the expenses of the Institution for the Blind, Brantford, as follow :—
SALARIES :
No. of officers
and employees.
Principal 1 $1600 00
Physician '.. 1 400 00
Bursar 1 800 00
Matron 1 300 00
Teachers 6 3,700 00
Trade Instructor 1 1,000 00
Visitors' Attendant 1 120 00
Engineer 1 600 00
Fireman 1 240 00
Gardener 1 400 00
Teamster 1 288 00
Porter 1 216 00
CookandBaker 2 50400
Kitchen and Dining-room Maids 6 ... . 612 00
Laundress 1 144 00
Laundress' Assistants 2 204 00
Nurses 2 24000
Housemaids 2 192 00
Night Watchman and Carpenter 1 360 00
Temporary assistance 100 00
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EXPENSES :
Medicine and medical comforts $75 00
Butchers' meat, fish and fowl 2,800 00
Flour .. , % .. 1,000 00
Butter 800 00
General groceries 1,800 00
Fruit and vegetables 250 00
Bedding, clothing and shoes 300 00
Fuel 3,000 00
Gas and oil 800 00
Laundry, soap and cleaning 300 00
Furniture and furnishing 400 00
Farm, feed and fodder 600 00
Repairs and alterations — 400 00
Advertising, printing, stationery arid postage 500 00
Books, apparatus and appliances 400 00
Unenumerated... 550 00
Total $25,995 00
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44. To defray the expenses of the School of Agriculture, as follow : —
SALARIES : —
No. of officers
and employees.
President and Science Master 1 $1,50000
Professor of Agriculture and Farm Manager 1 2,00000
Bursar 1 1,000 00
Lecturer on Veterinary Surgery and Practice 1 60000
Physician 1 300 00
Foremen 3 1,600 00
Matron 1 300 00
Kitchen, dining-room and housemaids 4 420 00
Laundress 1 120 00
Dairymaid 1 12000
Engineer 1 400 00
Assistant do for 5 months 1 10000
Messenger 1 100 00
Bonus to pupils - 80000
EXPENSES :
Medicines and medical comforts 50 00
Meat, fish and fowl 1,500 00
Bread and biscuits , 600 00
General groceries 1,500 00
Fuel 1,200 00
Light 200 00
Laundry, soap and cleaning 150 00
Furniture, furnishing and bedding 250 00
Eepairs and alterations 350 00
Laboratory, maintenance of chemicals, &c 100 00
Advertising, postage and stationery 600 00
Experiments 600 00
Unenumerated 600 00
Statistical Bureau, printing and postage 300 00
Total $17,360 00
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington] reported, That the Com-
mittee had come to several Resolutions ; and, That the Committee had directed him to ask
leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received on Monday next.
Resolved, That this House will again resolve itself into a Committee of Supply on
Monday next.
The House then adjourned at 11.10 P.M.
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Monday, 22nd January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
Mr. Speaker informed the House, That the Clerk had received from the Judges
appointed to inquire into, arid report on, Estate Bills their Reports in the following
cases : —
Bill (No. 63), Respecting the. Presbyterian Church at Orillia.
Bill (No. 24), Relating to St. Mark's Church, Niagara.
Bill ^No. 45), To enable the Synod of Niagara to sell certain lands in Arthur.
Bill (No. 49), Respecting St. Paul's Church at Newmarket.
Bill (No. 25), To enable Bernard McAllister, a Trustee, to convey certain lands.
Bill (No. 21), Respecting the Village of Port Elgin.
The Reports were then read by the Clerk at the Table, as follow: —
TORONTO, 19th January, 1877.
To Charles T. Gillmor, Esq.,
Clerk Legislative Assembly.
The undersigned, two of the Commissioners appointed to report respecting Estate
Bills, in relation to Bill (No. 63), referred to the said Commissioners, beg to report :
That, assuming the allegations contained in the Petition on which the Bill is founded to
!>e correct, they think it reasonable that the Bill do pass into a law, with the amendments
which they suggest thereto, and which they have noted on the margin of the Bill, being
on the second page, line 41, the insertion of the word " due " before " publication," and at
the end of section 2, " And the said remains shall be re-interred decently and in order,
and, so far as reasonably may be, with a due regard to the wishes and desires of any
friends of the deceased as to the manner of such removal and re-interment ; " And at the
end of line 23 on page 3, " of the share of the said congregation," and on line 25, after
the word " purposes," " of a permanent nature for the benefit of the Congregation."
J. G. SPRAGGE, C.,
W. PROUDFOOT, V.G.
TORONTO, 19th January, 1877.
To Charles T. Gillmor, Esq.,
Clerk Legislative Assembly.
The undersigned, two of the Commissioners appointed to report respecting Estate
Bills, in relation to Bill (No. 49), referred to the said Commissioners, beg to report : —
The undersigned are not furnished with a copy of the Trust Deed to the late Bishop
of Toronto and others, referred to in the petition.
Assuming that the Trust is for the uses and purposes set forth in the Petition, it re-
mains to be shown that the Trust is now duly vested in the Petitioners, by the appoint-
ment of the present Bishop, involving the fact of such appointment, and the authority to
make it under the Trust Deed.
They are of opinion that, before any disposition is made of the land comprised in the
Trust Deed, the sense of the congregation of the Church, on whose behalf the Petition is
presented, should be taken at a meeting duly called for that purpose ; and further, that
the donor of the land, if living, or if dead, those representing him by heirship or devise,
should be notified.
It appearing by the Petition that the land in question is under lease, the rights of
the lessee should be saved, unless his consent to the proposed sale be first obtained.
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They observe that it is proposed to apply a portion, not exceeding one-half of the pro-
ceeds of sale, in the erection of a parsonage. It does not appear that the religious body in
question possess any land upon which such parsonage may be erected.
One of the trusts upon which the land was conveyed is for the site of a burial ground
to be attached to the proposed church. It does not appear whether or not any part of
the land conveyed has been appropriated for that purpose, and if so, whether or not there
have been any interments therein. Further, it does not appear that the religious body in
question possess any cemetery, either of their own, or in common with others. 1 tit does
not, we are of opinion that one of the trusts of the proceeds of the proposed sale should
be the purchase of land for a cemetery, and provision should be made in case of their
having been any interments on the land proposed to be sold, for the due and orderly re-
moval of the remains of those interred there to another cemetery, and we recommend
that the like provision in respect thereof be enacted as we have recommended in the case
of the proposed cemetery of the Presbyterian Congregation at Orillia.
The Congregation may think it desirable to except from sale a portion of the land in
question, and to appropriate the same for the purposes of a ceniett ry. We conceive that
it would be well to give them a discretion to do so if they think fit.
J. G. SPRAGGE, C.
W. PROUDFOOT, V. C.
The undersigned, two of the Commissioners to whom was referred Bill (No. 45,) beg
leave to report as follows : —
(1) There is nothing to show any consent to the proposed legislation on the part of
the congregation immediately interested, or of the Synod of the Diocese of Niagara, in
which body the Petition, presented as the basis of legislation, states the premises to be
vested. We think the consent of these bodies should be obtained before the desired Act
is passed. The Religious Institutions Act, 36 Vic., cap. 135, shews the care taken in pro-
curing the assent of congregations before their property is dealt with.
(2) As the land — the subject of the Bill — was originally granted by the Crown for
the benefit of the Church in question, it is for the Attorney-General, on behalf of Her
Majesty, to say if those at present interested in the land, consent thereto ; whether it
shall be diverted from the original trust as a site for a Church, burial ground, and parson-
age in one locality, to the building of a parsonage merely in another.
J. G. SPRAGGE, C.
S. H. BLAKE, V. C.
OSGOODE HALL, 20th January, 1877.
The undersigned, two of the Commissioners to whom was referred Bill ^No. 24), beg
leave to report as follows : —
(1) We have not before us the conveyance wherein the trusts on which the lands in
question were conveyed, appear ; if they are correctly set out, it would not seem reason-
able that these premises, devoted to a burial ground by the grantors, should now be turned
into a church endowment. The use of these premises for the purpose for which they
were granted being now prohibited by competent authority, a sale of them would appear
to be advisable, but we conceive that the proceeds of the sale should be applied to a
purpose of the same character, as far as circumstances admit of it, as that for which the
grant was made, and a scheme for that purpose should be laid before the House.
(2) We are not informed whether there have been any interments in the premises in
question. If there have been, and if the Attorney-General, on behalf of Her Majesty, as
representing the original grantors, " The principal officers of Her Majesty's Ordnance,"
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approves of the disposition of the premises as defined in the said Bill, then the Commis-
sioners think that some such provisions as those set forth in 39 Vic. cap. 99, sees. 2, 3 and
4, should be inserted in the Bill before it pass into law, in order to the due protection
of those who may have used the ground for the purposes for which it was set apart.
J. G. SPRAGGE, C.
To Charles T. Gillmor, Esq., S. H. BLAKE, V. C.
Clerk of the Legislative Assembly.
Dated 20th January, 1877.
In the matter of Bill (No. 25.)
The undersigned Commissioners, to whom was referred a Bill founded on the Peti-
tion of John McAllister and others, beg leave to report as follows : —
That, in their opinion, it is not reasonable that this Bill should pass into law. Any
relief to which the Petitioners are entitled, as to any portion of the property improperly
included in the trust deed, can be obtained from the ordinary tribunals of the land, if
necessary to apply to them. The revesting the land in the settlor, as asked by him, is a
demand which it is prim a facie highly unreasonable for him to make, and with which no
Legislature would comply, except on the clearest evidence of its absolute necessity, or to
prevent some positive wrong.
JOHN H. HAGARTY, C. /.
S. H. BLAKE, V. C.
OSGOODE HALL,
January 20th, 1877.
The undersigned, two of the Commissioners appointed under the 34th Fie., c. 7, to
report on Estate Bills, in reference to Bill (No. 21), intituled, "An Act respecting the Vil-
lage of Port Elgin, " referred to the said Commissioners, beg to report : —
That it does not appear either in the petition for the Bill, nor in the recitals of the
the Bill itself, whether the Squares and Reserves with which it is proposed to deal were
originally reserved by the Crown for the general use of the public, or for some specific
purpose, or were dedicated by private owners, or, if granted or conveyed to the Corpora-
tion, whether any trust was annexed to the gift.
In either case it is quite possible that parties have acquired rights by purchasing
property abutting upon them, on the faith that they would be continued open, and it
might be unjust to those parties to comply with the prayer of the Petition.
From the materials before us it is impossible to say whether it is or is not reasonable
that the Bill should pass into a law. We should, therefore, recommend that further infor-
mation should be furnished to the House upon the points to which we have called atten-
tion, and especially whether any parties have purchased or built upon lots abutting on the
said Squares, or showing (if the fact be so) that all the owners of property abutting thereon
are assenting parties to the proposed legislation.
We would beg further to call attention to the circumstance that, although in the pre-
amble it is alleged that certain Squares and Reserves are not required, the Bill proposes
to give power to the Corporation to dispose of all the Squares, with three exceptions.
The Petition refers to the obtaining of similar power to close and dispose of a lane
or alley, which is not mentioned eo nomine in the Bill, but it is manifest that although the
public generally may have no interest in the keeping it open — both as regards it and the
squares, private individuals may have rights, which it would be foreign to the spirit of
our institutions to deprive them of by a vote of the majority of the Municipal electors,
without their consent.
GEO. H. BURTON, J.
C. S. PATTERSON, /.
OSGOODE HALL,
20th January, 1877.
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Ordered, That Bill (No. 63), Relating to the Presbyterian Church at Orillia, be re-
ferred to the Standing Committee on Private Bills, with instructions to consider the same
with reference to the suggestions of the Commissioners of Estate Bills thereon.
Ordered, That Bill (No. 24), Relating to St. Mark's Church, Niagara, be referred to
the Standing Committee on Private Bills, with instructions to consider the same with
reference to the suggestions of the Commissioners of Estate Bills thereon.
Ordered, That Bill (No. 45), To enable the Synod of Niagara to sell certain
lands in Arthur, be referred to the Standing Committee on Private Bills, with instructions
to consider the same with reference to the suggestions of the Commissioners of Estate
Bills thereon.
Ordered, That Bill (No. 49), Respecting St. Paul's Churoh, Newmarket, be referred
to the Standing Committee on Private Bills, with instructions to consider the same with
reference to the suggestions of the Commissioners of Estate Bills thereon.
Ordered, That Bill (No. 21), Respecting the Village of Port Elgin, be referred to the
Standing Committee on Private Bills, with instructions to consider the same with refer-
ence to the suggestions of the Commissioners of Estate Bills thereon.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Mr. Wood. — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 766 of Victoria.
By the Honourable Mr. Pardee. — The Petition of the School Board of Moore.
B} Mr. Boulter. — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 425 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 435 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 251, all of Huntingdon ;
also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of North Hastings; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 3 of North Hastings ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No, 110 of Stirling.
By Mr. Deacon — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Cobden.
By Mr. Lane — The Petition of the Township Council of York.
By Mr. Gibson — The Petition of H. Robinson, and others, of Lucknow.
By Mr. Graham — The Petition of the Township Council offiuphemia.
By Mr. Broder — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Winchester ; also, the Petition
of the Orange Lodge of Williamsburgh • also, the Petition of the Orange Lodge of Dundas \
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 862 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 550 ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 333 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 139 ;
all of Dundas.
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of the High School Board of Port Perry ; also, of the High School Board of Elora ;
also, of the High School Board of Scotland, severally praying for certain amendments to
the School Act.
Of Thomas Menzies and others, of Peterborough, praying for the abolition of the Book
Depository.
Of the Town Council of Berlin ; also, of the Village Council of Aylmer ; also, of the
County Council of Peterborough, severally praying for certain amendments to the Assess-
ment Act with respect to the Exemption Clauses.
Of R. P. Boucher and others, of Peterborough ; also, of Wm. Campbell and others, of
Peterborough ; also, of Julius Winckler and others, of Wentworth ; also, of Isaac Ryall and
others, of Hamilton, severally praying that an Act may pass to incorporate Trinity Medi-
cal School.
Of the Toronto Street Railway Company, praying that the Bill now before the House
to incorporate the Metropolitan Street Railway Company may not pass.
Of the Township Council of West Gmllimbury ; also, of the Township Council of
Pespra ; also, of the Township Council of Sunnidale ; also, of the Township Council of
Mulmur, severally praying that the Bill now before the House respecting the Hamilton
and North Western Railway Company may not pass.
78 22ND AND 23RD JANUARY. 1877.
Of Orange Lodge No. 160 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 382 / also, of Orange Lodge No.
318 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1, all of South Hastings ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 204,
of Welland ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Mornington ; also, of Orange Lodge of Brock ;
also, of Orange Lodge of Albion ; also, of Orange Lodge of North Leeds ; also, of Orange
Lodge of Norwood ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 549 : also, of Orange Lodge No. 522 : also,
of Orange Lodge No. 284 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 281 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
34, all of East Peterborough ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 451 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
97 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 444; also, of Orange Lodge, No. 348, all of Frontenac ;
also, of Orange Lodge of Portland ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,291, of South Hastings;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,183 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 509, all of North Hastings ;
also, of Orange Lodge of Bangor • also, of the Orange Lodge of Lansdowne ; also, of Orange
Lodge of South Crosby ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 226 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 331 ;
also, of Orange Lodge No 183 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 485, all of South Leeds ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 274, of Hastings ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 40 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 853 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 456 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 309 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 82 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 79 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 64 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 50 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 46, all of Durham ; also, of Orange
Lodge of Manvers ; also, of Orange Lodge of Cavan ; also, of Orange Lodge of Hope ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 756; also, of Orange Lodge No. 431 : also, of Orange Lodge
No, 1,113, all of Lennox; also, of Orange Lodge No. 540; also, of Orange Lodge No.
467 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 429, all of North Perth ; also, of OrangeLodge No. 358, of
Wentworth ; also, of Orange Lodge of East York ; also, of Orange Lodge of Kincar-
dine ; also of Orange Lodge of West Bruce, severally praying that an Act may pass to in-
corporate the Loyal Orange Association of Ontario East and West.
The Honourable Mr. Pardee presented to the House by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
Report of the Commissioner of Crown Lands for the year 1876 (Sessional Papers,
No. 11).
The following Bill was introduced, and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 58), intituled " An Act respecting the St. Catharines Street Eailway Com-
pany."— Mr. Hodgins.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Cameron,
Resolved, That, as a mark of respect for the memory of the late John Fleming, Esquire,
Member for the South Riding of the County of Waterloo, this House do now adjourn.
The House then adjourned at 3.45 P. M.
Tuesday, 23rd January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Mr. Currie — The Petition of the School Board of Grimsby.
By Mr. Sinclair — The Petition of the County Council of Bruce.
By Mr. Ferris — The Petition of the School Board of Brighton.
40 Vic. 23RD JANUARY. 79
The Honourable Mr. Fraser, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, presented
their Second Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined Bill (No. 18), To alter and amend the survey of the
lands of the Canada Company in the Townships of Bosanquet and McGillivray, and report
i h<' Pill without amendment.
The Committee have also examined the following Bills, and have prepared certain
;<?nen<lments thereto, respectively :
Bill (No. 54), For the admission of William E. Idsardi, as a Provincial Land
Surveyor.
Bill (No. 34), To incorporate the Christian Church in Ontario.
Bill (No. 30), To incorporate Alma College, St. Thomas.
Bill (No. 33), To incorporate the Ontario Missionary Society of the Methodist
Episcopal Church in Canada.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted
on the following Bills, the same being in connection with religious institutions :
Bill (No. 34), Christian Church in Ontario.
Bill (No. 33), Ontario Missionary Society of Methodist Episcopal Church in Canada.
Ordered, That the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted in the following
Bills : Bill (No. 34) Christian Church in Ontario, Bill (No. 33), Methodist Episcopal
Church in Canada.
The Honourable Mr. Par dee, from the Standing Committee on Railways, presented
their First Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined the following Bill, and have prepared certain amend-
ments thereto :
Bill (No. 23), Respecting the North Simcoe Railway Company.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 93), intituled " An Act to amend the several Acts respecting the Educa-
tion Department, Public and High Schools, and the University of Toronto." — The Hon-
ourable Mr. Crooks.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 94), intituled " An Act to amend the Assessment Act of 1869." — Mr.
Baxter.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Crooks,
Ordered, That the name of Mr. Ballantyne be substituted for that of Mr. Hay on the
Committee on Public Accounts.
The Honourable Mr. Pardee presented to the House, in obedience to an Order of the
House : —
A Return exhibiting the amount expended by the Government of Ontario during and
since the summer of 1868 up to the present time on Colonization Roads in the District of
Algoma (other than in that part of the District known as the Grand Manitoulin Island)
shewing the different roads made or undertaken, and the sums expended thereon each
year. (Sessional Papers No. 27.)
The following Bill was read the third time, and passed : —
Bill (No. 67), Respecting Escheats and Forfeitures.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 82), Respecting pay-
ments to Unorganized Townships or part of Districts under the Municipal Loan Fund Scheme;
23RD J ANITA KY. 1877.
and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the ChairJ; and Mr. Clarke (Wel-
lington), reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any
amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into a Committee of Supply.
(In the Committee..)
Resolved, That there be granted to Her Majesty, for the service of the year 1877, the
following sums : —
46. To defray the expenses of Immigration services, as follow : —
Agencies in Europe $7,800 00
Agencies in Canada 2,400 00
Dominion Government, to meet proportion of charges for
forwarding Immigrants to Ontario 10,000 00
Balance due on previous years 11,637 42
Carriage of Immigrants in Ontario, including maintenance ... 5,000 00
Provisions and medical attendance for same 5,500 00
Assistance by way of payments in reduction of passage money
to selected Emigrants specially consigned to Ontario ... 10,000 00
Contingencies , 800 00
Total $53,137 42
47. To defray the expenses of a grant in aid of Agriculture, Arts,
Literary and Scientific Institutions, as follow : —
Electoral Division Societies, 81 at $700 * $56,700 00
Electoral Division Society, 1 at 8550 550 00
Electoral Division Societies, 6 at $350 2,100 00
Outlying Districts 300 00
Fruit Growers' Association 1,000 00
Entomological Society 750 00
Dairymen's Association 2,000 00
Agricultural Association 10,000 00
Poultry Association. 600 00
For sundry services in connection with Agriculture and Arts
not otherwise provided for 2,000 00
Mechanics' Institutes .. 23,000 00
Art Union 500 00
School of Art and Design 500 00
Canadian Institute, Toronto 750 00
Institut Canadien, Ottawa 300 00
Athenaeum, Ottawa
To promote scientific research... 500 00
Total $101,850 00
48. To defray the expenses of a grant in aid of Hospitals and Charities, as follow : —
For Hospitals and Institutions mentioned in Schedule A of
Statute, 37 Vie., chap. 33 $39,614 48
For Institutions in Schedule B 10,291 52
For Institutions in Schedule C -. 9,704 90
Total - $59,610 90
40 Vic. 23RD JANUARY. 81
50. To defray Unforeseen and Unprovided Expenses $50,000 00
51. To defray the expenses at the works at the Asylum for the Insane, Toronto $27,075 00
52. To defray the expenses of works at the Asylum for the Insane, London $88,840 00
53. To defray the expenses of works at the Asylum for the Insane, Hamilton... $103, 9 50 00
54. To defray the expenses of works at the Asylum for Idiots, Orillia $6,732 14
55. To defray the expenses of works at'the Provincial Reformatory, Penetangue-
shene $2,900 00
56. To defray the expenses of wor,ks at the Central Prison, Toronto $15,250 00
57. To defray the expenses of works at the Deaf and Dumb Institute, Belleville $28,355 00
58. To defray the expenses of works at the Blind Institute, Brantford $23,025 00
59. To defray the expenses of works at the School of Agriculture $16,800 00
60. To defray the expenses of works at the School of Practical Science $500 00
61. To defray the expenses of works at the Normal School and Education Office $4,000 00
62. To defray the expenses of works at the Normal School, Ottawa $1,200 00
63. To defray the expenses of works at Osgoode Hall $5,000 00
64. To defray the expenses of works at Government House $20,000 00
65. To defray the expenses of works at the Parliament Buildings $2,000 00
66. To defray the expenses of works in the District of Alqoma $3,000 00
67. To defray the expenses of works in the Thunder Bay District $400 00
68. To defray the expenses of works in the Nipissing District $200 00
69. To defray the expenses of works in the Muskoka District $600 00
70. To defray the expenses of works in the Parry Sound District $100 00
71. To defray the expenses of works at Muskoka. ;; $800 00
72. To defray the expenses of works at Wye River $7,900 00
73. To defray the expenses of works between Mary's and Fairy Lakes $6,000 00
74. To defray the expenses of works at Scugog River ... $1,000 00
75. To defray the expenses of works at Balsam River $2,000 00
76. To defray the expenses of works at Gull and Burnt Rivers $8,000 00
77. To defray the expenses of Surveys, Inspections, Arbitrations and charges not
otherwise provided for , $5,000 00
82 23RD JANUARY. 1877*
78. To defray the expenses of works in maintenance of Locks, Dams, and Swing
Bridges ......................................................................... $2,000 00
79. To defray the expenses of Lock-masters' and Bridge-tenders' salaries ..... . ... $1,700 00
80. To defray the expenses of construction and repairs of Colonization Roads, as follows —
1.— NORTH DIVISION :
Great Northern Road ................................. .,. ............... $2,500 00
St. Joseph's Island Road ....................................... ...... 1,500 00
Thunder Bay Roads ............................................... 2,000 00
Rose and Lrfroy Roads ......................................... 1,500 00
Total for North Division ................................. ...................... $7,500 00
2. — WEST DIVISION :
Parry SoundRozd ..................................... ............... $5000 00
Northern Road, Township of Ferrie ............................... 2,000 00
Road across Township of .Feme .................................. 1,100 00
Eosseau and Nipissing Road ................................... 6,000 00
McDougaUEoA .................... ............................... 500 00
Maganetawan Road .............. . ..................... , ............. 1,200 00
Stisted Road ........................................................ 3,000 00
East River Road ...................................................... 1,000 00
Peninsula Road ...................................................... 1,000 00
MuskokaEo&d ....................................................... 500 00
Baysville Road.,. ..................................................... 1,500 00
Brunei Ho&d ............................................................ 1,500 00
Macauley Road ...... ................................................. 1,500 00
Muskoka Road ......................................................... 3,000 00
Total for West Division .......................................... ..$28,800 00
3. —EAST DIVISION.
Mississippi Rosid .................................................. $1,500 00
Hastings Road ...................... .............................. 1,000 00
Addington Road ..................................................... 1,000 00
Hagarty and Brudenel ~Ro&d ....................... . .................. 1,500 00
Wilberforce Road ................................................. 1,500 00
Eganville and Douglas and Pierreault settlement roads ......... 1,000 00
Total for East Division ............................................... $7,500 00
4.— BRIDGES.
Garden River Bridge ............ ................................... $2,000 00
Parry River Bridge ................................................. 1,500 00
Seguin River Bridge ................................................. 1,000 00
Madawaska Bridge (on the Addington Road) .................... 3,000 00
Matawan Bridge.. ...... ............................................... 3,000 00
Total for Bridges $10,500 00
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5. — GENERAL PURPOSES :
Inspection and locations $3,000 00
Short new roads and repairs of like nature 20,000 00
Total for general purposes $23,000 00
Total for Colonization Roads $77,3CO 00
81. To defray the expenses of Crown Lands Expenditure, as follow : —
Board of surveys $400 00
Agents' salaries, commissions and disbursements , 18,000 00
Forest ranging and inspection of timber lands 14,000 00
Surveys as follows : —
Townships near the Bruce Mines and in the vicinity of Sault
Ste. Marie $12,000 00
Township of Mineral Lands at Pigeon River. 5,000 00
Townships in the Huron and Ottawa Territory 32,000 00
Township of Sunnidale (re-vote) 1,600 00
Township of Bedford (re-vote) 1,600 00
Maps 2,000 00
Survey of limits ia Huron and Ottawa Territory chargeable
against holders 5,000 00
Total $91,600 00
82. To meet the expenses of the Refund Account, as follow : —
EDUCATION :
Contributions to Superannuation Fund $750 fft
CROWN LANDS :
For payments made to the credit of the Department on account
of uncompleted purchases, and afterwards returned to
proposed purchasers on purchases not being carried out $20,000 00
For two per cent, of timber dues payable to Municipalities for
timber cut on road allowances 3,000 00
$23,000 00
MUNICIPALITIES FUND :
To pay over to Municipalities the amount collected in 1876 —
Commissions, &c. ... , $31,023 62
Balance at credit of Fund, January 1st, 1877 \ 34,039 04
$65,062 66
LAND IMPROVEMENT FUND:
Moneys collected from sale of Crown Lands, subject to the
Land Improvement Fund, for the year ending 30th
June, 1876 , 4,358 51
Moneys collected from the sale of Common School Lands, sub-
ject to the Land Improvement Fund, for the year ending
30th June, 1876 ; less 6 per cent, for collection and
management 10,432 68
84 23RD AND 24TH JANUARY. 1877.
Moneys collected from the sale of Grammar School Lands, sub-
ject to the Land Improvement Fund, from the 20th June,
1875, to 30th June, 1876; less 6 per cent for collection
and management $715 42
$15,506 61
Total Refund Account $104,319 27
83. To defray the expenses made necessary to complete the Services of 1875... $19,223 87
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Com-
mittee had come to several Resolutions ; and, That the Committee^had directed him to ask
leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received To-morrow.
Resolved, That the House will again resolve itself into a Committee of Supply To-
morrow.
The House then adjourned at 10.40 P.M.
Wednesday, 24th January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. McCraney — The Petition of Joseph Muckle and others, of Harwich ; also, the
Petition of John Hall and others, of Dover East.
By Mr. Coutts — The Petition of James S. Laird and others, of Kent ; also, the Peti-
tion of J. S. Ireland and others, of Dover East.
By Mr. Broder— The Petition of the Orange Lodge No. 782, of Dundas.
By Mr. Patterson (York) — The Petition of the Toronto Street Railway Company ; also,
the Petition of the County Council of York • also, the Petition of the Township Council
of York.
By Mr. Lyon — The Petition of George Smith and others, of Milton.
By Mr. Creighton — The Petition of the Township Council of Normanby ; also, the
Petition of the Township Council of Osprey ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 394 ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 973, of Grey ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge
of Euphrasia.
By Mr. Barr — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Shelburne.
By Mr. Bell — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 4, of Toronto.
g
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of the School Board of Moore, praying for certain amendments to the School Act.
Of the Township Council of Euphemia, praying for certain amendments to the
Municipal Act.
Of the Township Council of York, praying that an investigation be made into the
management of the Toronto General Hospital.
Of H. Robinson and others, of Luc/enow, praying for the abolition of the Book
Depository.
Of Orange Lodge No. 766, of Victoria ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 425 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 435: also, of Orange Lodge No. 251, all of Huntingdon ; also, of the Orange
Lodge of North Hastings ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 3, of North Hastings • also, of Orange
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Lodge No. 110, of Stirling; also, of the Orange Lodge ofCobden; also, of the Orange
Lodge of Winchester ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Williamsburgh ; also, of the Orange
Lodge of Dundas ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 862 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 550 • also,
of Orange Lodge No. 333 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 139, all of Dundas, severally pray-
ing that an Act may pass to incorporate the Loyal Orange Associations of Ontario East
and West.
The Honourable Mr. Fraser, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, presented
their Third Keport, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined the following Bills, and report the same without
amendment : —
Bill (No. 37), To amend the Act of Incorporation of the Canadian Literary Institute
at Woodstock.
Bill (No. 12), Respecting St. John's Church, Iroquois.
Bill (No. 61), To consolidate the debt of the Port Hope Harbour.
Bill (No. 5), Respecting By-law No. 240, of the Town of Windsor.
Bill (No. 47), To legalize a By-law of the County of Simcoe.
Bill (No. 85), Respecting the Peel General Manufacturing Company.
The Committee have also examined the following Bills, and have prepared certain
amendments thereto respectively :
Bill (No. 3), To incorporate the William Hall, Peterborough, Protestant Poor Trust.
Bill (No. 20), Respecting St. Paul's Church, in the Village of Almonte.
Bill (No. 63), Respecting the Presbyterian Church at Orillia.
Bill (No. 57), To enable the Corporation of Cobourg to aid certain Manufacturing
Establishments.
Bill (No. 4), To amend the Water Works Act of the City of Ottawa.
Bill (No. 16), To amend the Act incorporating the Upper Canada Bible Society.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted
on Bill (No. 59), Respecting the Toronto Land and Loan Company, the Bill having been
withdrawn by the promoter thereof.
Also that the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on Bill (No. 25), To
enable Bernard McAllister, a trustee, to convey certain lands, the Bill having been reported
against by the Commissioners of Estate Bills, to whom the same was referred.
Also, that the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on the following
Bills, the same being in connection with religious institutions : — Bill (No. 12), St. John's
Church, Iroquois ; Bill (No. 20), St. Paul's Church, Almonte ; Bill (No. 63), Presbyterian
Church, Orillia ; Bill (No. 16), Upper Canada Bible Society.
Ordered, That the fees, less actual expenses, be remitted on the following Bills : —
(No. 59), Toronto Land and Loan Company; Bill (No. 25), B. McAllister; Bill (No. 12),
St. John's Church, Iroquois; Bill (No. 20), St. Paul's Church, Almonte; Bill (No. 63),
Presbyterian Church, Orillia; and Bill (No. 16), Upper Canada Bible Society.
The Honourable Mr. Pardee, from the Standing Committee on Railways, presented
their Second Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined the following Bills to them referred, and have pre-
pared certain amendments thereto respectively : —
Bill (No. 42), Respecting the Credit Valley Railway Company.
Bill (No. 41), To incorporate the Leamington, Comber, and Lake St. Glair Railway
Company.
Bill (No. 8), Respecting the Toronto, Grey and Bruce Railway Company.
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 66), intituled "An Act respecting the Pickering Harbour and Road Joint
Stock Company." — Mr. Brown.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
86 24TH JANUARY. 1877.
On motion of Mr. Lander, seconded by the Honourable Mr. McDougall,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House : —
1st. A statement of all property belonging to the Endowment Fund of the University
of Toronto, University College and Upper Canada College.
2nd. Statement of the Income derived from said property from 1867 to 1876, in-
clusive, showing separately the income for each year.
3rd. Also the annual expenditure in detail of said funds respectively, during the
same period.
On motion of Mr. Ferris, seconded by Mr. Haney,
Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to the Lieutenant-Governor, praying
that he will cause to be laid before this House, a Return of the Correspondence between
the Government of the Dominion and the Government of Ontario, relating to the transfer
of the River Trent Works to this Province by the Dominion Government.
On motion of Mr. Haney, seconded by Mr. Ferris,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return of all correspondence relating
to, and all the data upon which the High School at Font Hill has been ordered to be
closed, except such portion as is already in possession of the House.
The following Bill was read the third time, and passed : —
Bill (No. 82), Respecting payments to Unorganized Townships, or parts of Districts,
under the Municipal Loan Fund Scheme.
Mr. Speaker called upon Mr Clarke (Wellington}, to take the Chair during
absence ; and, after some time, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
Report of the Inspector of Division Courts for the Province of Ontario, for the year
1876. (Sessional Papers, No. 28.)
Also, In obedience to an Order of the House : —
Copy of contract under which the Printing of the House and of the Public Depart-
ments is being performed ; also copies of all correspondence, Orders in Council, or other
documents relating to an alteration in the said contract. (Sessional Papers, No. 29.)
Also, Supplementary Return to an Address (in Session of 1875-6) to the Lieutenant-
Governor, praying that he would cause to be laid before the House, a Return of cases
standing for judgment in the Court of Chancery for Ontario, on the 13th day of January,
1876, made by the Registrar of the said Court. (Sessional Papers, No. 14.)
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 36), Respecting the
Church of St. Alban the Martyr, in Ottawa ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington) reported, That the Committee
had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the Second Reading of Bill (No. 74), To amend the Free
Grants and Homestead Act, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
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The Order of the Day for the Second Heading of Bill (No. 78), To prevent Betting
or Wagering on Elections for Members of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario, having
been read,
The Honourable Mr. Cwrie moved,
That the Bill be now read the second time.
And the Motion, having been put, was lost on a division.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 84), To extend Cap. 45, of the Consolidated Statutes for Upper Canada,
intituled " An Act respecting Mortgages and Sales of Personal Property" to the Districts
of MusJcoJca, Parry Sound, Thunder Bay, and Nipissing.
Referred to a Select Committee composed as follows : — Messieurs Miller, Dawson,
Deroche, Meredith, Hardy, Scott, and Deacon.
Bill (No. 18), To alter and amend the survey of the lands of the Canada Company,
in the Townships of Bosanquet and McGillivray.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 54), For the admission of William E. Idsardi as a Provincial Land Surveyor.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 23), Respecting the North Simcoe Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrowT.
Bill (No. 91), To amend the Act respecting Municipal Institutions.
Referred to a Select Committee to be composed as follows : — Messrs. Baxter, Bishop,
Clarke (Wellington), Code, Coutts, Hardy, Lyon, McGowan, Meredith, Merrick, Mostyn,
O'Donoghue, Tooley, Springer, and Widdifield.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 86), To extend the Muni-
cipal Franchise to Women, having been read,
Mr. Clarke (Norfolk], moved,
That the Bill be now read the second time.
Mr. Sinclair moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Finlayson,
That all the words after " That " be struck out, and the following substituted there-
for : " the Bill be not now read the second time, but that it be read the second time this
day three months."
And the Amendment, having been put, was carried on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Barr,
Baxter,
Bell,
Bishop,
Bonfield,
Boulter,
Broder,
Brown,
Cameron,
Chisholm,
Code,
Cole,
Coutts,
Creighton,
Crooks,
Deacon,
Deroche,
Ferris,
Finlayson,
Flesher,
Fraser,
Gibson,
Graham,
Grant,
Hardy,
Hargraft,
Hodgins,
Hunter,
Kean,
Long,
Lyon,
O'Sullivan,
McCraney,
Pardee,
McDougall (Mid-
Preston,
dlesex},
Richardson,
McDougall (Sim-
Rosevear,
coe),
Scott,
McGowan,
Sexton,
McRae,
Sinclair,
Massie,
Snetsinger,
Meredith,
Springer,
Merrick,
Tooley.
Monlc,
Watterworth,
Mostyn,
Wilson,
Mowat,
Wood — $sk «rtr
O'Donoghue,
"
1
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NAYS.
i
Messieurs
Clarke (Norfolk), Haney, McMahon, Robinson,
Clarke (Wellington), ffarkin, Miller, Striker,
Currie, Lander, Paxton, Widdifield — 12.
The original Motion as amended, having been then put, was carried, and it was,
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time this day three months.
The House then adjourned at 11 P.M.
Thursday, 25th January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table :
By the Honourable Mr. Crooks — The Petition of John J. Tickers and others, of
Toronto.
By Mr. Merrick — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 995 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 562 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 982 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 1,260 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 881 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 1,000 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 496 ; all of Frontenac ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 575 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 130 ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,250 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No.
1,219 ;also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,091 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge
No. 775 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge, No. 767 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 642, all of North Huron ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 606 of
North Ontario; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge, No. 612 ; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 639 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,233 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 968 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 735, all of East Bruce ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,033 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No.
751, all of North Perth] also the Petition of Orange Lodge of North Frontenac] also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge of hinchinbrooke ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Olden ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,261 of North Grey.
By Mr. Tooley — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 662; also, the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 826 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,097, all of Middlesex ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge of West Middlesex.
By Mr. Wills — The Petition of E. G. Henderson and others of Belleville.
By Mr. Hodgins — The Petition of Arthur Rankin of Thornfield.
By Mr. Grant — The Petition of the County Agricultural Society of the County of
Glengarry.
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of the County Council of Bruce, praying for certain amendments to the Assessment
Act with respect to the Exemption Clauses,
Of the School Board of Grimsby ; also, of the High School Board of Brighton, pray-
ing for certain amendments to the School Acts.
40 Vic. 25TH JANUARY.
The Honourable Mr. Fraser, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, pre-
sented their Fourth Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined the following Bills, and have prepared certain amend-
ments thereto, respectively : —
Bill (No. 40), Respecting Trinity Medical College.
Bill (No. 6), To authorize the Town of Dundas to pass a by-law exempting the
Canada Screw Company from taxation.
Bill (No. 31), To incorporate the Standard Fire Insurance Company.
The Committee have also examined Bill (No. 15), To confirm a re-survey of part of
the Town of Collingwood, and find the preamble thereof not proven, on the ground that
special legislative enactment in the premises is not desirable or necessary.
The Committee recommend that the fees on said Bill (No. 15), be remitted, less the
actual cost of printing.
The Honourable Mr. Fraser, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, pre-
sented their Fifth Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined Bill (No. 27), To incorporate the Loyal Orange
Association of Ontario West and the Loyal Orange Association of Ontario East, and find
the preamble thereof not proven, on the ground that special legislative enactments in
the premises is not desirable or necessary.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted
on the said Bill (No. 27).
Ordered, That the fees be remitted, less the actual cost of printing, on Bill (No. 15),
Town of Collingwood ; also, on Bill (No. 27), Loyal Orange Association of Ontario East
and West.
The Honourable Mr. Pardee, from the Standing Committee on Railways, presented
their Third Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined the following Bills to them referred, and have pre-
pared certain amendments thereto, respectively : —
Bill (No 10), To amend the Acts relating to the Whitby and Port Perry Extension
Railway Company.
Bill (No. 62), Respecting the Huron and Quebec Railway Company.
Bill (No. 43), To incorporate the Niagara and St. Catharines Railroad and Steamboat
Company.
The following Bill was read the third time, and passed : —
Bill (No. 36), Respecting the Church of St. Alban the Martyr, in Ottawa.
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into a Committee of Supply.
(In the Committee,')
Resolved, That there be granted to Her Majesty for the Service of 1877, the following
sums:
49. To defray the expenses of Miscellaneous Expenditure, as follow : —
To cover expenses of collection of revenue for law stamps and
licenses $2,500 00
To cover expenses in connection with municipalities and other
funds 500 00
To provide for expenses attending the settlement of the Munici-
pal Loan Fund debt and surplus schemes 500 00
90 25TH JANUARY. 1877.
To provide for expenses re Ontario and Quebec Settlement (re-
vote in part) $4,00000
To provide for expenses re Northern and Western boundaries
(re-vote in part) 4,000 00
Marriage Licenses, printing and incidentals 400 00
Inspection of Railways 500 00
Ontario Rifle Association 600 00
Insurance on public buildings and furniture 2,200 00
Consolidation of Statute Law 5,000 00
Consolidation of Statute Law, (for advance on type) 7,000 00
Expenses of elections 2,000 00
Expenses of contested elections 1,000 00
To cover gratuities to officers whose services may be dispensed
with 5,000 00
For repairs and care of Brock's "Monument" 400 00
Total $35,700 00
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had come to several Resolutions • and that the Committee had directed him to
ask leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received To-morrow.
Resolved, That the House will again resolve itself into a Committee of Supply To-
morrow.
The Order of the Day for the Second Reading of Bill (No. 71), To amend the
Voters' Lists Act, having been read,
Mr. Hodglns moved,
That the Bill be now read the second time,
And the Motion, having been put, was carried on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Barr, Flesher, McDougall (Simcoe),0' Sullivan,
Bell, Grange, McMahon, Paxton,
Boulter, Harkin, McRae, Preston,
Brown, Hodgins, Meredith, Richardson,
Cameron, Kean, Merrick, Robinson,
Code, Long, Monk, Rosevear,
Coutts, McDougall (Mid- Mostyn, Scott,
Creighton, dlesex), O'Donoghue, Tooley — 32.
Deacon,
NAYS.
Messieurs
Appleby, Deroche, Lyon, Springer,
Ballantyne, Fraser, McCraney, Striker,
Baxter, Gibson, McLeod, Watterworth,
Bishop, Graham, Massie, Widdifield,
Bonfield, Grant, Mowat, Williams,
Chisholm, Hardy, Pardee, Wilson,
Crooks, ffargraft, Sexton, Wood.— 31.
Dawson, Hunter, Sinclair,
The Bill was then read the second time.
40 Vic. 25TH AND 29TH JANUARY. 91
The following Bill was read the second time : —
Bill (No. 81), To facilitate the formation of Joint Stock Companies for the manu-
facturing of Butter, Cheese, and other Dairy Products.
Referred to a Select Committee, composed as follows : — Messieurs Ballantym, Graham,
Appleby, Scott, Deroche and Wills.
On motion of Mr. McMahon, seconded by Mr. Graham,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return of the names of all persons
appointed to any position in the Civil Service of the Ontario Government during the years
1867 to 1876, inclusive ; the date when each person was so appointed ; the nature of the
employment j the salary attached thereto ; the residence by Counties, Cities, or Towns,
as the case may be.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Motcat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Crooks,
Resolved, That when this House adjourns, it do stand adjourned until Monday next
at three o'clock.
The House then adjourned at 10.45 P.M.
Monday, 29th January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
Mr. Speaker informed the House, That the Clerk had received from the Judges
appointed to inquire into, and report on Estate Bills their Reports in the following
cases : —
Bill (No. 44), To erect the Town of Brantford into a City.
Bill (No. 9), Respecting St. Paul's Church, Toronto.
Bill (No. 13), Respecting the Diocese of Huron.
Bill (No. 92), Respecting the Township of Adelaide.
The Reports were then read at the Table, as follow : —
The undersigned, two of the Commissioners to whom were referred Clause Eleven
of Bill (No 44), beg leave to report as follows : —
They do not think it reasonable that the present Cemetery, called Mount Hope
Cemetery, should be disposed of, or dealt with otherwise than as a Cemetery until all the
bodies therein interred be removed, and decently re-interred in another burying ground,
to be procured by the Corporation of the City of Brantford.
The Commissioners consider it proper that provisions similiar to those contained in
Sections Two and Three, 39Fic., Chapter Ninety-nine, be embodied in the Bill in question
before it passes into law.
JOHN H. HAGARTY, C.J.
S. H. BLAKE, F.C.
Dated Osgoode Hall,
25th January, 1877.
The Commissioners J;o whom were referred Bill (No. 9,) beg leave to report as
follows :—
From the Petition, the basis of the Bill in question, it app3ars that the premises
sought to be affected are vested in the Reverend Saltern Givlns, the Incumbent of St. Paul's
92 29TH JANUARY. 1877.
Church, upon certain trusts which are not denned in the papers presented to the Com-
missioners. Without information as to the nature of these trusts it is impossible to say
whether or not it is reasonable that this Bill should pass into law.
The trusts specified do not, it is presumed, permit a mortgage, or the present appli-
cation to the Legislature would be unnecessary.
It may be that all that is sought by this Bill could be obtained under the Religious
Institutions Act, 36 Victoria Chapter 135, in which case the proposed legislation is not
reasonable.
J. G. SPRAGGE, C.
S. H. BLAKE, V.C.
OSGOODE HALL, 26th January, 1877.
OSGOODE HALL, January 26th 1877.
To
G. T. Gillmor, Esq.,
Clerk Legislative Assembly,
Toronto.
The undersigned to whom, with other Judges of the Superior Courts of Law and
Equity Commissions have been issued to report in respect of any Estate Bills or peti-
tions for Estate Bills, which may be submitted to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario,
have the honour to state in reference to the Bill (No. 1 3), and the Petition of the Incor-
porated Synod of the Diocese of Huron, that, assuming the allegations contained in the
Preamble to be proved, it is, in their opinion, reasonable that the same do pass into law,
and that the provisions thereof are proper for carrying its purposes into effect. They beg,
however, to suggest that it would be well not to limit the sum, to be applied towards
the erection of a parsonage house, to one -fifth of the proceeds of the sale of the piece of
land proposed to be sold, as provided by the third section of the Act, but to leave the sum
to be so applied out of the proceeds of such sale to the decision of the vestry that may
hereafter decide upon the erection of a parsonage.
The undersigned have accordingly altered the third section of the Act to meet their
view of what is proper in that respect.
J. G. SPRAGGE, C.
W. PROUDFOOT, F.C.
The undersigned, two of the Commissioners appointed to report upon Estate Bills
beg to report upon Bill (No. 92), To empower the Township of Adelaide to convey certain
ands.
That it seems reasonable in their opinion that the Bill should pass into law, a more
suitable place for the erection of the buildings referred to in the grant having been pur-
chased by the Municipality, and a Town Hall erected thereon.
GEO. H. BURTON, J.
C. S. PATTERSON, /.
OSGOODE HALL, 26th January, 1877.
Ordered, That Bill (No. 44), To erect Brantford into a City, be referred to the Stand-
ing Committee on Private Bills, with instructions to consider the same with reference to
the suggestions of the Commissioners of Estate Bills thereon.
Ordered, That Bill (No. 9), Eespecting St. Paul's Church, Toronto, be referred to
the Standing Committee on Private Bills, with instructions to consider the same with
reference to the suggestions of the Commissioners of Estate Bills thereon.
40 Vic. 29TH JANUARY. 93
Ordered, That Bill (No. 13), To authorize the Synod of the Diocese of Huron, to sell
certain lands in Warwick, be referred to the Standing Committee on Private Bills, with
instructions to consider the same with reference to the suggestions of the Commissioners
of Estate Bills thereon.
Ordered. That Bill (No. 92), Respecting the Township of Adelaide, be referred to the
Standing Committee on Private Bills, with instructions to consider the same with reference
to the suggestions of the Commissioners of Estate Bills thereon.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Mr. Crooks — The Petition of John Mclnlyre and others, of Fort
William ; also the Petition of the County Council of Oxford ; also the Petition of the
School Board of Fergus.
By the Honourable Mr. Cameron — The Petition of James Ashdown and others, of
Humphrey ; also the Petition of John Claris and others, of Preston.
By Mr. Clarke (Wellington) —The Petition of the School Board of Elora.
By Mr. Coutts— The Petition of the Village Council of Wallaceburgh.
By Mr. Chisholm—T\\e Petition of the County Council of Peel.
By Mr. Wills — The Petition of the County Council of Hastings.
By Mr. O'Donoghue — The Petition of John Graham and others of, Ottawa
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of George Smith, and others, of Milton, praying for certain amendments to the Assess-
ment Act with respect to the Exemption clauses.
Of the Township Council of York, praying for certain amendments to the Voters'
Lists Act.
Of the Toronto Street Railway Company, praying that the Bill now before the House
respecting the Toronto Street Railway Company may not pass.
Of the County Council of York, praying for certain amendments to the Municipal and
Assessment Acts.
Of /, 8. Laird, and others, of Kent, praying for certain Amendments to the Drainage
Act.
Of /. S. Ireland, and others ; also, of John Hall, and others, of Kent ; severally praying
for certain amendments to the Municipal Act.
Of Joseph Muckle, and others, of Harwich ; praying that the time for commencing
work on the Erie and Huron Railway be not extended.
Of the Township Council of Osprey ; also, of the Township Council of Normanby,
severally praying that an Act may pass to reunite the North and South Ridings of the
County of Grey for Registration purposes.
Of John J. Pickers, and others, praying that the Bill now before the House respect-
ing the Municipality of Shuniah may not pass.
Of E. G. Henderson, and others, of Belleville, praying for certain amendments to the
Ontario Medical Act.
Of Arthur Rankin, of Thornfield, praying that the Bill now before the House respect-
ing the Municipality of Sault Ste. Marie may not pass.
Of the County Agricultural Society of the County of Glengarry, respecting the aboli-
tion of Township Agricultural Societies.
Of the Orange Lodge No. 782, of Dnndas ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 394 ; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 973. of Grey ; also, of Orange Lodge of Euphrasia ; also, of Orange
Lodge of Shelbourne ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 4, of Toronto; also, of Orange Lodge No.
995 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 562 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 982 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 1,260 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 881 ; alsol of Orange Lodge No. 1,000 ; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 496, all of Frontenac; also, of Orange Lodge No. 575 ; also of Orange
Lodge No. 130 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,250 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,219 ; also,
of Orange Lodge No. 1,091 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 775 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
767 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 642, all of North Huron ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 606,
of North Ontario ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 612 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 639 ; also, of
94 29TH JANUARY.. 1877.
Orange Lodge No. 1,233 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 968 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 735,
all of East Bruce; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,033 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 751, all
of North Perth; also, of Orange Lodge of North Frontenac ; also, of Orange Lodge of Hmch-
inbrooke; also, of Orange Lodge of Olden ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,261, of North Gh'ey ;
also, of Orange Lodge No. 662 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 826 ; also, of Orange Lodge
No. 1,097, all of Middlesex-, also, of Orange Lodge of West Middlesex, severally praying
that an Act may pass to incorporate the Loyal Orange Associations of Ontario East and
West.
The following Bills were severally introduced, and read a first time : —
Bill (No. 95), intituled " An Act to amend the Act respecting Line Fences." — Mr.
Preston.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
Bill ^No. 96), intituled " An Act to extend the rights and remedies of Mechanics and
others, entitled to Liens on Chattels." — Mr. Patterson (Essex).
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
Bill (No. 97), intituled " An Act respecting Mortgages and Sales of Personal Pro-
perty."— The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
Bill (No. 98), intituled " An Act to amend the Ontario Medical Act." — Mr. Wills.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
Bill (No. 99), intituled " An Act to amend the Acts respecting Building Societies. "-
Mr Hodgins.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
Bill (No. 100), intituled « An Act to amend the Pharmacy Act of 1871."— Mr.
Striker.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 37), To amend the Act of incorporation of the Canadian Literary Institute
of Woodstock.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 61), To consolidate the Debt of the Port Hope Harbour.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 85), Respecting the Peel General Manufacturing Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 3), To incorporate the William Hall, Peterborough, Protestant Poor Trust.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 20), Respecting St. Paul's Church, in the Village of Almonte.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 16), To amend the Act incorporating the Upper Canada Bible Society.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 8), Respecting the Twonto, Grey and Bruce Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 6), To authorize the Town of Dundas to pass a By-law exempting the Canada
Screw Company from taxes.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 62), Respecting the Huron and Quebec Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 88), To amend the Assessment Act of 1875-76.
Referred to the same Select Committee to whom was referred Bill (No. 91), To amend
the Act respecting Municipal Institutions.
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Bill (No. 94), To amend the Assessment Act of 1869.
Kef erred to the same Select Committee to whom was referred Bill (No. 91), To
amend the Act respecting Municipal Institutions.
The Honourable Mr. Crooks presented to the House by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
Receipts and Expenditures of the Province of Ontario for the twelve months ending
31st December, 1876. (Sessional Papers No. 1).
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by Command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
The Report of the Ontario School of Art. (Sessional Papers No. 30).
Also — Annual Report of the Inspector of Asylums, Prisons and Public Charities for
the year 1876. (Sessional Papers No. 2).
The House then adjourned at 4 P. M.
Tuesday, 30th January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table :
By the Honourable Mr. Cameron — The Petition of the Consumers' Gas Company of
Toronto.
By the Honourable Mr. McDougall — The Petition of the County Council of Sirticoe ;
also, the Petition of the South Simcoe Electoral District, and the Essa Branch Agricultural
Society.
By Mr. Deroche — The Petition of the School Board of Newburgh.
By Mr. Massie— The Petition of the School Board of Guelph.
By Mr. Tooley — Four Petitions of the County Council of Middlesex.
By Mr. McDougall ( Middlesex) — The Petition of the County Council of Middlesex.
By Mr. Graham — The Petition of Malcolm Dewar and others, of Plympton.
By Mr. Ross — Four Petitions of the County Council of Huron.
By Mr. Monk — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Dunrobin.
By Mr. Hay — The Petition of A. Matheson and others, of Stratford.
By Mr. Paxton — The Petition of Peter Kennedy and others, of fort William.
By Mr. Merrick — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Arran ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 203 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 609 ; all of East Bruce ; .
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1 1 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No.
1,137 ; all of North Grey ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Oakville ; also, the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge No. 567 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 568 ; all of North
Ontario ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 693, of Aurora.
By Mr. Broder — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 653, of Dundas.
By Mr. Scott — The Petition of the Village Council of Lakefield.
Mr. Clarke (Wellington}, from the Standing Committee on Printing, presented their
Second Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee recommend that the following documents be printed :—
Return of amounts expended on Colonization Roads in the District of Algoma.
(Sessional Papers No. 27.)
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Return showing the cases tried by Jury in the several counties, and cities, in the
years 1874 and 1875, and the number tried by Judges, without a Jury. (Sessional
Papers No. 15.)
Estimates for the year 1877. (Sessional Papers No. 8.)
Report of the Librarian of the Legislative Assembly. (Sessional Papers No. 6.)
Tabular Statement relating to the Railways in Ontario. (Sessional Papers No. 9.)
Report on the Crown Lands for 1876. (Sessional Papers No. 11.)
Report of Inspector of Division Courts for 1876. (/Sessional Papers No. 28.)
Return of High Schools in operation during 1876, and of those ordered to be closed
during present year. (Sessional Papers No. 26.)
Return of contracts for Government printing and all correspondence relating thereto.
(Sessional Papers No. 29.)
Report of the Inspector of Asylums, Prisons, and Public Charities, for 1&76. (Ses-
sional Papers, No. 2.)
Statements of Receipts and Expenditures for 1876. (Sessional Papers, No. 1.)
The Committee recommepd that the following documents be not printed : —
Report of L'Institut Canadien-Franqais de la Cite" d'Ottawa. (Sessional Papers, No. 25).
Report of the Ontario School of Art. (Sessional Paper st No. 30.)
The Committee draw the attention of the Government and Legislature to the fact, that
the Contract for the Supply of Printing Papers, will terminate on the sixth day of June
next.
Resolved, That this House doth concur in the Second Report of the Committee on
Printing.
Mr. Clarke (Wellington), from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented
their First Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee report that at its Session of to day (30th January, 1 877,) the follow-
ing resolution was adopted : —
" That inasmuch as some Members of the Committee have met on several occasions
but have been unable to proceed at the hour appointed for the meeting of the Committee,
the quorum being fixed at the number of nine, and that number not being present ; and
considerable loss of time having resulted therefrom, it is therefore resolved, That the
Chairman be requested to ask the House to reduce the number necessary to form a quorum
to the number of Seven/' The Committee therefore recommend the reduction of the
quorum of the Committee to Seven members.
Ordered, That the Quorum of the Public Accounts Committee be reduced to Seven
members.
The Honourable Mr. Fraser, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, pre-
sented their Sixth Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined the Bill (No. 11), To reunite the North and South
Ridings of the County of Grey, for the purpose of the Registration of Titles, and find the
preamble thereof not proven, on the ground that legislation in the premises is not desira-
ble or necessary. The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of print-
ing, be remitted on the Bill.
The Committee have also examined Bill (No. 64), To legalize a certain by-law and
certain debentures of the City of Toronto, arid report the Bill with certain amendments.
The Committee have also examined Bill (No. 39), To incorporate the People's Gas
Company, and have amended the Preamble thereof in certain particulars, on the ground
that certain of the allegations therein contained were not proven to the satisfaction of the
Committee. The Committee have also prepared certain other amendments to the Bill.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted
on Bill (No. 35), To change the names of certain streets in the City of Ottawa, the Bill
having been withdrawn by the promoter thereof.
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30TH JANUARY.
97
Ordered, That the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on Bill (No. 11),
To reunite North and South Grey ; also, on Bill (No. 35), Streets in Ottawa.
Mr. Creighton, moved, seconded by Mr. Barr,
" That the Sixth Report of the Committee on Private Bills, so far as it relates to Bill
(No. 11), To reunite the North and South Ridings of Grey for Registration purposes, be
referred back to the Committee, with instructions to consider the preamble of the Bill as
proven, and to proceed to the consideration of the several clauses thereof."
And the Motion, having been put, was lost on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Appleby,
Barr,
Bishop,
Broder,
Brown,
Creighton,
JBallantyne,
Baxter,
Bell
Bonjield,
Boulter,
Cameron,
Chisholm,
Clarke (Norfolk),
Clarke (Wellington)
Code,
Cole,
Coutts,
Dawson,
Crooks,
Flesher,
Gibson,
Grange,
Hay,
Lander,
Deacon,
Deroche,
Ferris,
Mnlayson,
Fraser,
Graham,
Grant,
ffarkin,
,Hodgins,
Hunter,
Kean,
Lane,
Lyon,
McDougall (Mid-
Monk,
Patterson (Essex),
Richardson,
Rosevear,
Ross,
Sexton,
Sinclair,
Wigle,
Wills,
Wilson.— 23.
NAYS.
Messieurs
McCraney, Patterson (York),
McDougall (Simcoe),Paxton,
McGowan,
McMahon,
McRae,
Massie,
Meredith,
Merrick,
Miller,
Mostyn,
Mowat,
O'Donoghue,
Pardeet
Preston,
Robinson,
Scott,
Snetsinger,
Springer,
Striker,
Tooley.
Watterworth,
Widdifield,
Williams,
Wood— 52.
On Motion of the Honourable Mr. Crooks, seconded by the Honourable Attorney-
General Mowat,
Ordered, That the Statement of the Receipts and Expenditures for the twelve months
ending 31st December, 1876, be referred to the Committee on Public Accounts.
The following Bills were severally introduced, and read a first time : —
Bill (No. 101), intituled " An Act respecting the Free Grants and Homestead Act of
1868."— The Honourable Mr. Pardee.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 102), intituled " An Act respecting the County Court, General Sessions of
the Peace and Surrogate Court of the County of York*' — The Honourable Attorney-
General Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 103), intituled "An Act to give the right of voting to Farmer's Sons in
certain cases."— The Honourable Mr. Fraser.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursdav next.
98 30TH AND 31sT JANUARY. 1877.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House in obedience to an Order of the
House : —
A Return of all correspondence relating to, and all the data upon which the High
School at Font Hill has been ordered to be closed, except such portion as is already in
possession of the House. (Sessional Papers No. 23.)
Also : — A Statement of all property belonging to the Endowment Fund of the University
of Toronto, University College, and Upper Canada College ; Statement of the income derived
from said property from 1867 to 1876 inclusive, showing separately the income of each
year ; also, the annual expenditure in detail of naid funds respectively during the same period.
(Sessional Papers, No. 31.)
Also : — Copies of the Reports made by the Provincial Secretary and the Inspector of
Prisons, regarding the internal management of the Central Prison, as the result of any
investigation by them, together with a copy of the evidence taken upon the investigation.
(Sessional Papers No. 33.)
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 79), Respecting the Territorial District of Muskoka, Parry Sound, and Thun-
der Bay, and the Provisional County of Haliburton.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 83), To amend the Act respecting the sale of Fermented or Spirituous
Liquors.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
The House then adjourned at 11.45 P.M.
Wednesday, 31st January, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. Boulter— The Petition of the School Board of Stirling.
By Mr. Coulter — The Petitions of the County Council of Kent.
By Mr. McCraney — Two Petitions of the County Council of Kent.
By Mr. Patterson (Essex) — Four Petitions of the County Council of Essex.
By Mr. Deroche — The Petition of the Village Council of Newburgh.
By Mr. Brown — The Petition of the County Council of Ontario.
By Mr. Baxter — The Petition of John Ludgate, and others, of Peterborough.
By the Honourable Mr. Cameron — The Petition of the City Council of Toronto.
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of John Claris and others of Preston, praying that no amendment may be made in
the Municipal Act respecting County Bridges.
Of the County Council of Oxford, praying that the Ballot be extended to elections
held under the Dunkin Act.
Of John Mclntyre and others of Fort William, praying that the Bill now before the
House respecting the Municipality of Shuniah may not pass.
Of the High School Board of Fergus ; also, of the School Board of Elora, severally
praying for certain amendments to the School Act.
Of the County Council of Hastings, praying for certain amendments to the Municipal
Act.
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Of the Village Council of Wallaceburg, praying for certain amendments to the Drain-
age Act.
Of the County Council of Peel, praying for certain amendments to the Assessment
Act, with respect to the Exemption Clauses.
Of John Graham and others, of Ottawa, praying for certain amendments to the Spirit
License Act.
The Honourable Mr. Fraser, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, pre-
sented their Seventh Report which was read as follows :—
The Committee have examined the following Bills, and have prepared certain amend-
ments thereto respectively :
Bill (No. 44), To erect the Town of Brantford into a City, under the name of the City
of Brantford.
Bill (No 32), To incorporate the Town of Belleville, and for the consolidation of the
debt thereof.
Bill (No, 21), Respecting the Village of Port Elgin.
The Committee have also examined Bill (No. 66), Respecting the Pickering Harbour
and Road Joint Stock Company, and Report the Bill without amendment.
The Committee have also examined Bill (No. 2), To divide the Township of East
Hawkesbury into two municipalities, and find the preamble thereof not proven, on the
ground that legislation in the premises is not necessary or desirable. The Committee
recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on said Bill (No. 2).
The Committee have also examined Bill (No. 24), Relating to St. Marfcs Church,
Niagara ; also Bill (No. 26), To legalize a survey in the Township of Matilda, and have
amended the Preambles of said Bills respectively, in accordance with the proof before the
Committee, and have also prepared other amendments thereto.
The Committee recommend that the fees on Bill (No. 14), To confirm a survey in the
Township of Caledon, be remitted, less the actual cost of printing, the Bill having been
withdrawn by the promoter thereof;
Also, that the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on Bill (No. 24), St»
Mark's Church, Niagara, the same being in connection with a religious institution.
The Honourable Mr. Pardee, from the Standing Committee on Railways, presented
their Fourth Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined the following Bills to them referred, and have pre-
pared certain amendments thereto respectively :
Bill (No. 28). Respecting the Port Dover and Lake Huron Railway Company.
Bill (No. 19), An Act respecting the Stratford and Huron Railway Company.
Bill (No. 55), Respecting the Cobourg, Peterborough and Marmora Railway and
Mining Company.
Bill (No. 29), An Act to incorporate the Metropolitan Street Railway Company of
Toronto.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the expense of printing, be remitted
on Bill (No. 17), To amend the Act incorporating the Ontario Central Railway Com-
pany, the Bill not having been introduced.
Ordered — That the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on the following
Bills :— Bill (No. 2), East Hawkesbury; Bill (No. 14), Township of Caledon; Bill (No.
24), St. Mark's Church, Niagara, and (Bill No. 17), Ontario Central Railway.
The Honourable Mr. Wood, from the Select Committee to whom was referred Bill
(No. 80), for the encouragement of Agriculture, Horticulture, Arts, and Manufactures, pre-
sented their Report, which was read as follows : —
Your Committee have examined the Bill to them referred, and report the same with
certain amendments.
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On motion of the Honourable Mr. Currie, seconded by Mr. Wilson,
Resolved, That a Select Committee be appointed, to whom will be referred the
Returns of the Sheriffs of this Province of their receipts and expenditures for the years
1872 and 1874, respectively made to this Legislature, the said Committee to be composed
as follows : — The Honourable Mr. Currie, Messieurs. Ferris, Wilson, Massie, Wigle, Mer-
rick, Richardson, Meredith and McCraneij, to examine such Returns, with power to send
for persons and papers.
The House resolved itself into a Committee, severally to consider the following
Bills : —
Bill (No. 18), To alter and amend the survey of the lands of the Canada Company
in the Townships of Bosanquet and McGillivray.
Bill (No. 54), For the admission of William E. Idsardi as a Provincial Land
Surveyor.
Bill (No. 23), Respecting the North Simcoe Railway Company.
Bill (No. 37), To amend the Act of incorporation of the Canadian Literary Institute
of Woodstock
Bill (No. 61), To Consolidate the Debt of the Port Hope Harbour.
Bill (No. 85), Respecting the Peel General Manufacturing Company.
Bill (No. 20), Respecting St. Paul's Church, in the Village of Almonte.
Bill (No. 16), To amend the Act incorporating the Upper Canada Bible Society.
Bill (No. 8), Respecting the Toronto, Grey and Bruce Railway Company.
Bill (No. 6), To authorize the Town of Ditndas to pass a By-law exempting the
Canada Screw Company from taxes.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the several Bills, without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bills reported be severally read the third time To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 34), For the Incorporation of the Christian Church in Canada.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 12), Respecting St. John's Church, Iroquois.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 5), Respecting By-law No. 240 of the Town of Windsor.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 47), To legalize a By-law of the County of Simcoe.
Referred to a Committe of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 63), Respecting the Presbyterian Church at Orillia.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 4), To amend the Water Works Act of the City of Ottawa.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 41), To Incorporate the Leamington, Comber and Lake St. Glair Railway
Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 31), To Incorporate the Standard Fire and Marine Insurance Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 10), To amend the Acts relating to the Whitby and Port Perry Extension
Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
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. Bill (No. 43), To Incorporate the Niagara and St. Catharines Railroad and Steam-
boat Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 64), To legalize a By-law and certain Debentures of the City of Toronto.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
The House resolved into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 79), Respecting the
Territorial Districts of Muskoka, Parry Sound and Thunder Bay, and the Provisional
County of Haliburton ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the
Chair ; and Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), reported, That the Committee had made some pro-
progress, and directed him to ask leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 83), To amend the
Act respecting the Sale of Fermented or Spirituous Liquors ; and, after some time spent
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That
the Committee had made some progress, and directed him to ask leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
The House then adjourned at 10.30 P.M.
Thursday, 1st February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P. M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. Watterworth. — The Petition of the County Council of Middlesex.
By Mr. Boulter. — The Petition of the Royal College of Dental Surgeons of Ontario ;
also, the Petition of Thomas Walker and others, of Stirling.
By Mr. Keom. — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Orillia.
By Mr. McDougall (Middlesex). — The Petition of Thomas Hays and others, of Ailsa
Craig.
By Mr. Lauder. — The Petition of S. Page and others; also, the Petition of M.
Staunton and others ; also, the Petition of J. W. Gale and others ; also, the Petition of
William Hewitt and others ; also, the Petition of John Rowland and others, all of Toronto.
By Mr. Bell— The Petition of R. W. Riddell and others of Toronto.
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of the Consumers' Gas Company, of Toronto, praying that the Bill now before the
House, respecting the Peoples' Gas Company, may not pass.
Of Peter Kennedy and others, of Fort William, praying that the Bill now before the
House, respecting the Municipality of Shuniah, may not pass.
Of the Village Council of Lakefteld ; also, of the County Council of Huron, severally
lying for certain amendments to the Assessment Act, with respect to the Exemption
Of the County Council of Huron ; also, of the County Council of Middlesex, severally
praying for certain amendments to the Assessment Act.
Of the County Council of Huron ; also, of the School Board of tfewburgh \ also, of
Malcolm Dewar and others, of Plympton, severally praying for certain amendments to the
School Act.
Of the County Council of Huron, praying for certain amendments to the Ontario
Medical Act.
102 IST FEBRUARY. 1877.
Of the County Council of Middlesex, praying that the ballot may be abolished at
Municipal Elections.
Of the County Council of Middlesex; also, of the South Simcoe Agricultural Society,
severally prrying for certain amendments to the Agriculture and Arts Act.
Of A. Matheson and others, of Perth, praying for the abolition of the Book Deposi-
tory.
Of the Orange Lodge of Dunrobin ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Arran ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 203 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 609, all of East Bruce ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 11; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,137; all of North Grey ; also, of
the Orange Lodge of Oakville ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 567 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
-568; all of North Ontario; also, of Orange Lodge No. 693, of Aurora; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 653, of Dundas ; severally praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the
Loyal Orange Associations of Ontario East and West.
The Honourable Mr. Pardee, from the Standing Committee on Railways, presented
their Fifth Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined the following Bills to them referred, and have pre-
pared certain amendments thereto respectively : —
Bill (No. 48), Relating to the Hamilton and North-Western Railway Company.
Bill (No. 52), To incorporate the Guelph Street Railway Company.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual expense of printing, be re-
mitted on Bill (No. 29), Respecting the Midland Railway, the Bill not having been intro-
duced by the promoter.
The Committee also recommend that Rule No. 51 be suspended during the present
Session in this, that the time for receiving Reports of the Standing Committee on Rail-
ways be extended until Monday, the Fifth instant inclusive.
The Honourable Mr. Fraser, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, presented
their Eighth Report which was read as follows :
The Committee have examined Bill (No. 65), Respecting the Village of Fort Erie,
and find the preamble thereof not proven, on the ground that legislation on the premises
is not necessary or desirable.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remit-
ted on the said Bill (No. 65).
The Committee also recommend that Rule No. 51 be suspended in this, that the time
for receiving Reports of the Standing Committee on Private Bills be extended until, and
inclusive of Monday the Fifth instant.
Ordered, That the fees less the actual cost of printing, be remitted in Bill (No. 65),
Village of Fort Erie ; also on (Bill No. 29), Midland Railway.
Ordered, That Rule No. 51 be suspended during the present Session, and that the time
Private B
inclusive.
for receiving Reports from the Standing Committees on Private Bills, and on Railways
be extended until Monday the Fifth of February instant inc'
Mr. Boulter, from the Committee to whom was referred Bill (No. 73), To amend the
Acts respecting Dentistry, presented their Report, which was read as follows : —
Your Committee have examined the Bill to them referred, and report the same with
certain amendments.
On motion of Mr. Hargraft
Ordered, That Order number Fifty be discharged, and that Bill (No. 57), To enable
the Corporation of Oobourg to aid certain manufacturing establishments, be referred back
to the Standing Committee on Private Bills for further consideration.
40 Vic. 1ST AND 2ND FEBRUARY. 103
The following Bill was introduced, and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 104), intituled " An Act respecting Constables." — The Honourable Attorney-
General Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, in obedience to an Order of
the House :
Copies of the Minutes of all meetings of the Senate of the University of Toronto,
held during the years 1874, 1875 and 1876, relating to the affiliation of Medical Schools
in the University of Toronto. (Sessional Papers No. 32.)
The following Bills were severally read the third time, and passed : —
Bill (No. 18), To alter and amend the survey of the lands of the Canada Company
in the Townships of fiosanqvet and McGillivray.
Bill (No. 54), For the admission of William E. Idsardi as a Provincial Land Surveyor.
Bill (No. 37), To amend the Act of incorporation of the Canadian Literary Institute
of Woodstock.
Bill (No. 61), To Consolidate the Debt of the Port Hope Harbour.
Bill (No. 85), Respecting the Peel General Manufacturing Company.
Bill (No. 20), Respecting St. Paul's Church, in the Village of Almonte.
Bill (No. 16), To amend the Act incorporating the Upper Canada Bible Society.
Bill (No. 6), To authorize the Town of Dundas to pass a By-law exempting the
Canada Screw Company from taxes.
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 83), To
amend the Act respecting the Sale of Fermented or Spirituous Liquors ; and, after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported,
That the Committee had made some progress, and directed him to ask leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
The House then adjourned at 11 P.M.
Friday, 2nd February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. Wigle — The Petition of the Township Council of Anderdon.
By Mr. McCraney — The Petition of A. Trerice and others, at Dresden.
By Mr. Merrick — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Stormont ; also, of the Prince
of Orange Lodge, of Stormont ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 25 ; also, the Peti-
tion of Orange Lodge No. 623 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 458; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 926 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 948 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 92 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 528 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,376 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 524,
all of Stormont ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,396 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 1,203, all of North Grey.
By Mr. Deacon — Three Petitions of the County Council of Renfrew.
The following Petitions were severally received and read :— •
Of the Village Council of Newburgh, praying for certain amendments to the School
Act.
Of the School Board of Stirling, respecting the High School at Stirling.
104 2ND FEBRUARY. 1877.
Of the County Council of Kent, respecting the protection of Shade and Ornamental
Trees.
Of the County Council of Kent ; also, two Petitions of the County Council of Essex,
severally praying for certain amendments to the Municipal Act.
Of the County Council of Essex, praying for certain amendments to the Drainage
Act.
Of the County Council of Kent ; also, of the County Council of Ontario, severally
praying that the Ballot be extended to Elections under the Dunkin Act.
Of John Ludgate and others, of Peterborough, praying for certain amendments to the
Game Laws.
Of the City Council of Toronto, praying that the Bill to incorporate the People's
Gas Company may not pass, except under certain conditions.
The Honourable Mr. Fraser, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, presented
their Ninth Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined the following Bills, and have prepared certain amend-
ments thereto respectively :
Bill (No. 9), Respecting St. Paul's Church, Toronto.
Bill (No. 45), To enable the Synod of Niagara to sell certain lands in Arthur.
Bill (No. 13), To authorize the Synod of the Diocese of Huron to sell certain lands in
the Township of Warwick.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on
said Bills, the same being in connection with religious institutions
The Committee have also examined Bill (No. 60), Respecting the Bothwell, (C.fy .)
Land and Petroleum Company (Limited), and have prepared certain amendments thereto.
The Committee have also examined Bill (No. 92), To empower the Council of the Muni-
cipality of the Township of Adelaide to sell certain lands, and have amended the preamble
thereof in accordance with proof before the Committee, and have otherwise amended the Bill.
The Committee have also examined Bill (No. 72). Respecting the Municipality of Sault
Ste. Marie, and have struck out the preamble thereof, deeming it unnecessary ; and have
also prepared other amendments to said Bill.
The Committee also recommend that the whole of the fees on Bill (No. 72) be remitted,
on the ground that the Bill, as reported by the Committee, might have been introduced as a
public Bill.
The Honourable Mr. Pardee, from the Standing Committee on Railways, presented their
Sixth Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined the following Bill, and have prepared certain amend-
ments thereto :
Bill (No. 53), Respecting the Toronto Street Railway Company.
The Committee have also examined the following Bill, and report the same without
amendment :
Bill (No. 58), Respecting the St. Catftarines Street Railway Company.
Ordered, That the whole of the fees be remitted on Bill (No. 72), Sault Ste. Marie;
and the fees, less the actual cost of printing, on the following Bills (No. 9), St. Paul's Church
Toronto, (No. 45), Synod of Niagara, (No. 13), Synod of the Diocese of Huron.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 41), To incorporate the
Leamington, Comber and Lake St. Clair Railway Company; and, after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington}^, reported, That the Commit-
tee had made some progress, and directed him to ask leave to sit agnin.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again on Monday next.
40 Vic. 2ND FEBRUARY. 105
The House resolved itself into a Committee severally to consider the following Bills : —
Bill (No. 34), For the Incorporation of the Conference of the Christian Church in
Ontario.
Bill (No. 12), Respecting St. John's Church, Iroquois.
Bill (No. 5), Respecting By law No. 240, of the Town of Windsor.
Bill (No. 47), To legalize a By-law of the County of Simcoe.
Bill (No. 63), Respecting the Presbyterian Church of Orittia.
Bill (No. 4), To amend the Water Works Act of the City of Ottawa.
Bill (No. 31), To incorporate the Standard Fire Insurance Company.
Bill (No. 43,), To incorporate the Niagara and St. Catharines Railroad and Steamboat
Company.
Bill (No. 64), To legalize a By-law and certain Debentures of the City of Toronto.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the several Bills without amendment.
Ordered, That the Bills reported be severally read the third time on Monday next.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 33), To incorporate the Missionary Society of the Methodist Episcopal
Church in Canada.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 42), Respecting the Credit Valley Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No 40), To incorporate the Trinity Medical School.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 39), To incorporate the People's Gas Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 28), Respecting the Port Dover and Lake Huron Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 19), Respecting the Stratford and Huron Railway.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No 55), Respecting the Cobourg, Peterborough and Marmora Railway and Min-
ing Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 29), To incorporate the Metropolitan Street Railway Company, of Toronto.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 44), To erect the Town of Brantford into a City, under the name of the City
of Brantford.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 32), For the incorporation of the Town of Belleville as a City, and for the
Consolidation of the Debt thereof.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 21), Respecting the Village of Port Elgin.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 66), Respecting the Pickering Harbour and Road Joint Stock Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 24), Relating to St. Mark's Church, Niagara.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 26), To legalize a Survey in the Township of Matilda.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Mondny next.
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Bill (No. 48), Relating to the Hamilton and North- Western Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 52), To incorporate the Gfwlph Street Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
On motion of Mr. Hodgins, seconded by Mr. Williams :
Ordered, That there be laid before this House — 1st. Copy of the Report of the De-
partment of Public Works of the late Province of Canada, dated 3rd April, 1856 — on the
probable cost of erecting Parliamentary Buildings in the City of Toronto.
2nd. Report as to any proceedings taken by such Department, or by the Government
of the late Province of Canada, for the selection of the site for such Parliamentary Build-
ings, in the University Park at the head of the College Avenue, pursuant to the Act 16th
Victoria, ch. 161, and for the sale of the land and water lots mentioned in section 4 of the
said Act. »
3rd. A Statement showing the total amount expended for repairs of the Parliamen-
tary and Departmental Buildings and for rents and repairs of temporary offices since 1st
July, 1867
4th. An estimate of the value of the land and Buildings now used for Parliamentary
and Departmental Buildings ; and an estimate of the probable cost of erecting new Public
Buildings for such purposes.
Mr. 0' Sullivan moved, seconded by Mr. Wigle,
That a Select Committee be appointed, composed of Messieurs Ferris, Striker,
McMalwn, Meredith and 0J Sullivan to inquire into the internal management of the Central
Prison, the mode of punishment, and other treatment therein practised ; the duties of the
various officers connected therewith, with power to send for persons and papers, and
examine undeV oath.
Mr. Hardy moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Wilson,
That all after the word " That " be struck out and the following inserted in lieu
thereof "pursuant to resolution in that behalf, there have been laid before this House
copies of the Report made by the Provincial Secretary and the Inspector of Asylums and
Prisons, regarding the internal management of the Central Prison, as the result of any
investigation by them, together with a copy of the evidence taken on such investigation,
that the papers so laid before the House are now being printed for distribution. There-
fore be it resolved, that, until the same are printed, and in the hands of the Members of
this House, this House is not in a position to decide upon the necessity or propriety of
appointing a Committee to inquire, either into the internal management or any other of
the matters connected with such Prison."
And a Debate having arisen, and the House having continued to sit until twelve of
the clock, midnight,
SATURDAY, 3rd February, 1877.
The Debate continued.
«
Mr Speaker called upon Mr. Clarke (Wellington), to take the Chair during his
absence ; and, after some time, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.
The Amendment, having been put, was carried on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Appleby, Bishop, Clarke ( Wellington), Dawson,
Ballantyne, Bonfield, Cole, Finlayson,
Baxter, Clarke (Norfolk), Crooks, Frase'r,
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Gibson,
Lane,
O'Donoghue,
Striker,
Graham,
Lyon,
Pardee,
Watterworth
Grant,
McCraney,
Paxton,
Widdifteld,
Hardy,
McMahon,
Sexton,
Williams,
Hay,
Miller,
Springer,
Wilson,
Hodgins,
Mowat,
Sinclair,
Wood— 37.
Hunter,
Barr9
Bell,
Broder,
Cameron,
Coutts,
Creighton,
Deacon,
NAYS.
Messieurs
McRae, Preston,
Lander, Meredith Richardson*
Me Doug all (Mid- Merrick, Scott,
dlesex) Monk, Tooley,
McDougall (Simcoe),0' Sullivan, Wigle,
McGowan, Patterson (Essex), Wills — 24. '
The Motion, as amended, having been then put was carried, and it was
Resolved, That pursuant to Resolution in that behalf, there have been laid before
this House, copies of the Reports made by the Provincial Secretary and the Inspector of
Asylums and Prisons, regarding the internal management of the Central Prison as the
result of an investigation by them, together with a copy of the evidence taken in such
investigation, that the papers so laid before this House are now being printed for distri-
bution. Therefore, be it resolved, that until the same are printed, and in the hands of
Members of this House, this House is not in a position to decide upon the necessity or
propriety of appointing a Committee to inquire either into the internal management or
any other of the matters connected with such Prison.
The House then adjourned at 1.20 A.M.
Monday, 5th February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Mr. Cameron — The Petition of John Fiskin and others ; also, the
Petition of Neil C. Love, and others ; also, the Petition of William Badenach, and others ;
also, the Petition of Augustus Webber^ and others ; also, the Petition of James Bennet, and
others ; also, the Petition of F. G. Dixon, and others ; also, the Petition of Andrew
Graham, and others ; also, the Petition of William Jones, and others ; also, the Petition
of T. Eaton, and others ; also, the Petition of T. A. Leckington, and others ; also, the Pe-
tition of J. McCausland, and others ; also, the Petition of Alexander Anderson, and others ;
also, the Petition of George Hastings, and others ; also, the Petition of Thomas Scully,
and others ; also, the Petition of Francis Goodwin, and others ; also the Petition of
James Good, and others ; also the Petition of E. W. Elmslie, and others ; also, the Peti-
tion of Robert J. Fleming, and others ; also, the Petition of A. B. Englehart, and others,
all of Toronto.
By the Honourable Mr. McDougall — The Petition of Sutherland Brothers; also, the
Petition of H. D. P. Armstrong, and others ; also, the Petition of J. G. Sinclair, and
108 STH FEBRUARY. 1877.
others ; also, the Petition of S. A. Vaux, and others ; also, the Petition of W. J. McDonnell,
and others ; also, the Petition of C. P. Reid, and others ; also, the Petition of M. B.
Young, and others ; also, the Petition of John Lamb, and others ; also, the Petition of
Charles Price, and others ; also, the Petition of Thomas Foster, and others ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 829 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 676 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 553 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 359,
all of South Simcoe ; also, two Petitions of the County Council of Simcoe.
By Mr. Lander, — The Petition of John Zimmerman and others ; also, the Petition of
Thomas Hodgins and others ; also, the Petition of Walter Butler and others ; also, the
Petition of H. K. Dunn and others ; also, the Petition of William Munro and others ;
also, the Petition of John Stanley and others ; also, the Petition of George J. Hunter
and others ; also, the Petition of C. Mitchell and others ; also, the Petition of Arthur
W. Godson and others ; also, the Petition of James Spence and others ; also, the Petition
of E. A. Medcalf and others ; also, the Petition of John Morphy and others ; also, the
Petition of M. A. Harper and others ; also, the Petition of John Foster and others ; also,
the Petition of George Charter and others ; also, the Petition of /. H. Boyle and others ;
also, the Petition of James Cowan and others ; also, the Petition of John Harrison and
others; also, the Petition of W. H. Bell and others; also, the Petition of «/. JsMmand
others ; also, the Petition of R. Woods and others ; also, the Petition of William Walker
and others ; also, the Petition of William Patterson and others, all of Toronto.
By Mr. Widdifield. — The Petition of Joseph Henry and others, of Aurora ; also, the
Petition of Nelson Gorham and others ; also, the Petition of D. Sutherland and others, all
of Newmarket.
By Mr. Kean — The Petition of William R. Bennett, of South Orillia.
By Mr. Miller — The Petition of C. More and others ; also, the Petition of M. Healey
and others ; also, the Petition of J. K. Vernon and others ; also, the Petition of William
Atkinson and others; also, the Petition of Thomas Hart and others; also, the Petition of
Thomas H. Dick and others ; also, the Petition of Samuel Hazlitt and others ; also, the
Petition of John Campbell and others ; also, the Petition of Edward Robinson and others;
alsc, the Petition of M. Pearson and others, all of Toronto.
By Mr. Broder- The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 524 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 239 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 580, all of Dundas.
By Mr. Ross — The Petition of the County Council of Huron.
By Mr. Hodgins. — The Petition of Samuel Brodie and others ; also, the Petition of
R. S. Williams and others ; also, the Petition of F. Rimer and others ; also, the Petition
of Robert Armstrong and others ; also, the Petition of W. M. McPherson and others ; also
the Petition of James Ferguson and others ; also, the Petition of George Schofield and
others ; also, the Petition of S. Clark and others ; also, the Petition of William Staunton
and others ; also, the Petition of George Brown and others, all of Toronto.
By Mr. Bell— The Petition of J. Wright and others ; also, the Petition of W. Owens
and others ; also, the Petition of William Baillie and others ; also, the Petition of Henry
S. Boulton and others ; also, the Petition of William Holmes and others ; also, the Petition
of John Graham and others ; also, the Petition of R. F. Walton and others ; also, the
Petition of J. A. Donaldson and others ; also, the Petition of N. Foy and others ; also,
the Petition of /. Read and others ; also, the Petition of John Kerr and others ; also, the
Petition of J. M. Ewing and others ; also, the Petition of G. A. Powell and others ; also,
the Petition of Daniel Kidd and others ; also, the Petition of James Lumbers and others ;
also, the Petition of J. A. Riddell and others ; also, the Petition of George Flint and
others ; also, the Petition of George Clarkson and others ; also, the Petition of Charles Lee
and others ; also, the Petition of Edgar L. Lawrence and others ; also, the Petition of C.
Martin and others; also, the Petition of Joseph Johnson and others ; also, the Petition of
B. Manning and others ; also, the Petition of John R. Robb and others ; also, the Petition of
James Carruther sand others; also, the Petition ofJ. Mellander and others'; also, the Petition
of R. Wilkinson and others ; also, the Petition of F. W. Scott, and others ; also, the Petition
of John Murphy and others ; also, the Petition of Thomas Spence and others ; also, the
Petition of W. S. Finch and others ; also, the Petition of W\ E. Southgate and others ;
also, the Petition of T. Gordon and others ; also, the Petition of E. W. Harris and others ;
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also, the Petition of John Jeffs and others ; also, the Petition of James Allan and others ;
also, the Petition of Charles Dixon and others ; also, the Petition of John S. Xing and
others ; also, the Petition of J. C. McMillan and others ; also, the Petition of John R.
Wood and others • also, the Petition of McGaw and Winnett and others ; also, the Petition
of Hugh Macdonald and others ; also, the Petition of George P. Shears and others ; also,
the Petition of David Walker and others ; also, the Petition of D. Black and others ; also,
the Petition of James Farley and others ; also, the Petition of Joseph Alder son and others ;
also, the Petition of Henry McCulloch and others ; also, the Petition of George Cowie and
others ; also, the Petition of E, P. Foster and others ; also, the Petition of Charles Yates,
and others ; also, the Petition of Thomas E. Gould and others ; also, the Petition of
Charles A. Seadding and others ; also, the Petition of John McConkey and others ; also,
the Petition of J. Ryan and others ; also, the Petition of W. Me Vean and others ; also,
the Petition of Robert Johnson and others ; also, the Petition of Thomas Bennett and others ;
also, the Petition of S. E. Briggs and others ; also, the Petition of W. Metcalf&nd. others ;
also, the Petition of John Harrison ; also, the Petition of Charles Adams and others ; also,
the Petition of D. Haddon and others, all of Toronto.
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of C. Page and others ; also, of William Hewitt and others ; also, of John Rowland
and others ; also, of M. Staunton and others ; also, of T. W. Gale and others, all of Toronto,
severally praying for certain amendments to the Act incorporating the Toronto Street Kail-
way Company.
Of Thomas Walker and others, of Stirling, respecting the High School at Stirling.
Of Thomas Hay and others, of Ailsa Craig, praying for certain amendments to the
Assessment Act with respect to the Exemption Clauses.
Of the County Council of Middlesex, praying for certain amendments to the Munici-
pal Act.
Of R. W. Riddell and others, of Toronto, praying for certain amendments to the
Spirit License Act.
Of the County Council of Renfrew, praying for certain amendments to the Municipal
Act.
Of the County Council of Renfrew, praying that the Townships of Hag arty, Sher-
wood, Jones, Richards and Burns, may be united into one Municipality, and as such annexed
to the County of Renfrew, and that the Townships of Clara and Maria may be annexed
to the Township of Head.
Of the County Council of Renfrew, praying that the Ontario Medical Act may be so
amended as to permit females to practise midwifery without license.
Of the Loyal Orange District Lodge of Orillia ; also, of the Orange Lodge of Stormont ;
also, of the Prince of Orange Lodge, of Stormont ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 25 ; also, of
Orange Lodge No. 623 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 458 ; also, of Orange Lodge No.
926 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 948 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 92 ; also, of Orange
Lodge No. 528 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,376 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 524, all of
Stormont; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,396 ; also, of Orange Lodge No. 1,203, all of
North Grey ; severally praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the Loyal Orange
Associations of Ontario, East and West.
The Honourable Mr. Fraser, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, pre-
sented their Tenth Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have considered the following Bills, and have prepared certain amend-
ments thereto respectively :
Bill (No. 38), Respecting the Municipality of Shuniah.
Bill (No. 76), To incorporate the Industrial Exhibition Company.
The Committee have also considered the following Bills, and have severally amended
the Preambles thereof, in accordance with the proof before the Committee, and have pre-
pared certain other amendments thereto respectively :
110 5TH FEBRUARY. 1877.
Bill (No. 56) Eespecting the City of Toronto, the Toronto Water Works, and other
matters.
Bill (No. 49) Eespecting St. Paul's Church at Newmarket.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted
on Bill (No. 49), the same being in connection with a religious institution.
The Committee have also considered Bill (No. 46), To incorporate the Lond.on Real
Estate Association, and find the Preamble thereof not proven, on the ground that general
legislation should cover the powers sought for by the said Bill.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted
on the said Bill (No. 46.)
The Committee have also had before them Bill (No. 57), To enable the Corporation of
Cobourg to aid certain manufacturing establishments, referred back to Committee for
further consideration ; the Committee have considered the said Bill, and have further
amended the Preamble thereof, in accordance with the proof before the Committee, and
have also prepared certain other amendments to the said Bill.
The Committee recommend that such of the fees as exceed the sum of sixty dollars
be remitted on Bill (No. 92), To empower the Township of Adelaide to convey certain
lands, on the grounds that the property authorized to be sold by the Bill is of a value
not exceeding two hundred and fifty dollars, and that a similar Bill after being introduced
last Session, failed to carry through an inadvertence on the part of the promoter.
The Honourable Mr. Fraser, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, pre-
sented their Eleventh Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have considered Bill (No. 50), To enable the Synod of the Diocese
of Toronto to conduct inquiries upon oath, and find the Preamble thereof not proven, on
the ground that legislation in the premises is not desirable ; the Committee recommend
that the fees less the actual cost of printing be remitted on the Bill.
Ordered, That the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on the following
Bills :— Bill (No. 49), St. Paul's Church, Newmarket • Bill (No. 46), London Real Estate
Association, and Bill (No. 5), Diocese of Toronto • also, such of the fees as exceed sixty
dollars on Bill (No. 92), Township of Adelaide.
The following Bills were severally introduced, and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 105), intituled " An Act to amend the law for the protection of Game and
Fur-bearing Animals." — Mr. Mostyn.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
Bill (No. 106), intituled " An Act to amend the Act for the protection of Insectivor-
ous and other Birds beneficial to Agriculture." — Mr. Mostyn.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
The following Bills were severally read the third time, and passed : —
Bill (No. 23), Respecting the Aorth Simcoe Railway Company.
Bill (No. 8), Respecting the Toronto, Grey, and Bruce Railway Company.
Bill (No. 12), Respecting St. John's Church, Iroquois.
Bill (No. 5), Respecting By-law No. 240 of the Town of Windsor.
Bill (No. 47), To legalize a By-law of the County of Simcoe.
Bill (No. 4), To amend the Water Works Act of the City of Ottawa.
Bill (No. 31), To incorporate the Standard Fire Insurance Company.
Bill (No. 64), To legalize a By-law and certain Debentures of the City of Toronto.
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 41), To in-
corporate the Leamington, Comber and Lake St. Glair Railway Company ; and, after some
tim<J spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the chair, and Mr. Clarke (Wellington) reported,
That the Committee had made some progress, and directed him to ask leave to sit again
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
40 Vic. 5TH AND GTH FEBRUARY. Ill
The House resolved itself into a Committee, severally to consider the following
Bills :—
Bill (No. 3), To incorporate the William Hall, Peterborough, Protestant Poor Trust.
Bill (No. 62), Respecting the Huron and Quebec Railway Company.
Bill (No. 33), To incorporate the Ontario Missionary Society of the Methodist Epis-
copal Church in Canada.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the several Bills without amendment.
Ordered, That the Bills reported be severally read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 42), Respecting the
Credit Valley Railway Company ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker re-
sumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had made
some progress, and directed him to ask leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 40), To incorporate
Trinity Medical School ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the
Chair, and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had made some pro-
gress, and directed him to ask leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
Notice having been taken that there was not a quorum, the Members present were
counted, and the House was adjourned by Mr. Speaker at 7.55 P.M.
Tuesday, 6th February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. Coutts — The Petition of the Canada Company ; also, two Petitions of the School
Board of Dover East ; also, the Petition of Scliool Board of Tilbury East ; also, the Petition
of the Town Council of Chatham.
By Mr. McCraney — The Petition of R. A. TompHns and others, of Blenheim ; also, the
Petition of N. H. /Stevens and others, of Harwich.
By Mr. Scott— The Petition of Nicol Kingsmill and others ; also, the Petition of W. C.
Campbell and others ; also, the Petition of Samuel Stern and others, all of Toronto.
The following Bills were severally read the third time, and passed : —
Bill (No. 34), for'the incorporation of the Conference of the Christian Church in Ontario.
Bill (No. 3), To incorporate the William Hall, Peterborough, Protestant Poor Trust.
Bill (No. 62), Respecting the Huron and Quebec Railway Company.
The Order of the day for the third reading of Bill (No. 43), To incorporate the
Niagara and St. Catharines Railroad and Steamboat Company, having been read,
The Honourable Mr. McDougall, moved, seconded by Mr. Lauder,
That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith referred back to a Com-
mittee of the Whole House, with instructions to amend the same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into a Committee, and, after sorre time spent
112 6TH AND 7TH FEBRITAKY. 1877.
therein, Mr. Clarke (Wellington) reported that the Committee had amended the Bill as
instructed.
The Amendments having heen read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read a third time, and passed.
The Order of the day for the consideration of Amendments made in Committee on
Bill (No. 68), To Amend and Repeal certain Enactments of the last Session of the Legis-
lature of this Province, having been read,
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat moved, seconded by the Honourable Mr.
Par dee,
That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith referred back to a Com-
mittee of the Whole House, with instructions to amend the same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time
spent therein, Mr. Clarke ( Wellington) reported, That the Committee had amended the
Bill as instructed.
The Amendments, having been read a second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 97), Respecting Mortgages and Sales of Personal Property.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 101), Respecting the Free Grant and Homestead Act of 1868.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 102), Respecting the County Court, General Sessions of the Peace, and
Surrogate Court of the County of York.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 104,) Respecting Constables.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 93), To amend the several Acts respecting the Education Department, Pub-
lic and High Schools and the University of Toronto.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
Second Annual Report of the Ontario School of Agriculture and Experimental Farm,
forjthe year ending 31st October, 1876. (Sessional Papers No. 12.)
The House then adjourned at 11.30 P.M.
Wednesday, 7th February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
Mr. Speaker presented to the House : —
Annual Return of the Ontario Mutual Life Assurance Company, for the year ending
January 20th, 1877. (Sessional Papers, No. 34.)
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table :-
By Mr. McGowan— The Petition of Robert Morrison and others, of Arthur.
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By Mr. Boulter — The Petition of the Township Council of Stirling.
By Mr. Massie —The Petition of the Town Council of Guelph.
By Mr. Meredith — The Petition of the Honourable John Carting and others, of
London.
By Mr. McCraney — The Petition of the Township Council of Zone.
By Mr. Kean — The Petition of James Quinn, of Orillia.
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of John Fiskin, and others ; also, of Neil C. Love and others, all of Toronto ; severally
praying for certain amendments to the Bill now before the House to incorporate the
People's Gas Company.
Of William B. Bennett, of Orillia, praying that the Bill now before the House to ex-
tend the limits of the Town of Orillia, may not pass.
Of the County Council of Simcoe, praying for certain amendments to the Municipal
Act.
Of D. Sutherland and others ; also, of Nelson Gorham and others, of Newmarket ; also,
of Joseph Fleury and others, of Aurora, severally praying for certain amendments to the
Assessment Act.
Of Loyal Orange Lodge No. 239 ; also, of Loyal Orange Lodge No. 580 ; also, of
Loyal Orange Lodge No. 524 ; also, of Loyal Orange Lodge No. 829 ; also, of Loyal
Orange Lodge No. 676; also, of Loyal Orange Lodge No. 553; also, of Loyal Orange
Lodge No. 359, severally praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the Loyal Orange
Association of Ontario East and West.
Of William Badenach, and others ; also, the Petition of Augustus Webber, and
others ; also, the Petition of James Bmnett, and others ; also, the Petition of F.
C. Dixon, and others ; also, the Petition of Andrew Graham, and others ; also,
the Petition of William Jones, and others ; also, the Petition of T. Eaton, and
others; also, the Petition of T. A. Lockington, and others; also, the Petition of/. Me-
Causland, and others ; also, the Petition of Alexander Anderson, and others ; also, the
Petition of George Hastings, and others ; also, the Petition of Thomas Scully, and others ;
also, the Petition of Francis Goodwin, and others ; also, the Petition of James Good, and
others ; also, the Petition of E. W. Elmslie, and others ; also, the Petition of Robert J.
Fleming, and others ; also, the Petition of A. B. Englehart, and others ; also, of Sutherland
Brothers ; also, the Petition of H. D. P. Armstrong, and others ; also, the Petition of J.
G. Sinclair, and others ; also, the Petition of S. A. t/aux, and others ; also, the Petition
of W. J. McDonnell, and others ; also, the Petition of C. P. Reid, and others ; also, the
Petition of M. B. Young, and others ; also, the Petition of John Lamb, and others ; also,
the Petition of Charles Price, and others ; also, the Petition of Thomas Foster, and others ;
also, of John Zimmerman, and others ; also, the Petition of Thomas Eodgins, and others ;
also, the Petition of Walter Butler, and others ; also, the Petition of H. K. Dunn, and
others ; also, the Petition of William Munro, and others ; also, the Petition of John Stan-
ley, and others ; also, the Petition of George J. Hunter, and others ; also, the Petition of
C. Mitchell, and others , also, the Petition of Arthur W. Godson, and others ; also, the
Petition of James Spence, and others ; also, the Petition of E. A. Medcalf, and others ;
also, the Petition of John Morphy, and others ; also, the Petition of M . A. Harper, and
others ; also, the Petition of John Foster, and others ; also, the Petition of George Charter,
and others ; also, the Petition of J. H. Boyle, and others ; also, the Petition of James
Cowan, and others ; also, the Petition of John Harrison, and others ; also, the Petition of
W. H. Bell, and others ; also the Petition of /. Ashton, and others ; also, the Petition of
R. Woods, and others ; also, the Petition of William Walker, and others ; also, the Peti-
tion of William Patterson, and others ; also, of C. More, and others ; also, the Petition of
M. Healey, and others ; also, the Petition of /. K. Vernon, and others ; also, the Petition
of William Atkinson, and others ; also, the Petition of Thomas Hart, and others ; also, the
Petition of Thomas H. Dick, and others ; also, the Petition of Samuel Hazlitt, and others ;
also, the Petition of John Campbell, and others ; also, the Petition of Edward Robinson,
and others; also, the Petition of M. Pearson, and others; also, of Samuel Brodie, and
others ; also, the Petition of R. S. Williams, and others ; also, the Petition of F. Rimer,
114 TTH FEBRUARY. 1877.
and others ; also, the Petition of Robert Armstrong, and others ; also, the Petition of W.
M. McPherson, and others ; also, the Petition of James Ferguson, and others ; also, the
Petition of George Scojield, and others ; also, the Petition of S. Clark, and others ; also,
the Petition of William Staunton, and others ; also, the Petition of George Brown, and
others ; also, of /. Wright, and others ; also the Petition of W. Owens, and others ; also,
the Petition of William Baillie, and others ; also, the Petition of Henry S. Boulton, and
others ; also, the Petition of William Holme?, and others ; also, the Petition of John
Graham, and others ; also, the Petition of It. F. Walton, and others ; also, the Petition of
/. A. Donaldson, and others ; also, the Petition of N. Foy, and others ; also, the Petition
of J. Read, and others ; also, the Petition of John Kerr, and others ; also, the Petition of
/. M. Swing, and others ; also, the Petition of G. A. Powell, and others ; also, the Petition
of Daniel Kidd, arid others ; also, the Petition of James Lumbers and others ; also, the
Petition of /. A. Riddell and others ; also, the Petition of George Flint and others ;
also, the Petition of George Clarlson and others ; also, the Petition of Charles Lee
arid others ; also, the Petition of Edgar L. Lawrence and others ; also, the Petition of C.
Martin and others ; also, the Petition of Joseph Johnston, and others ; also, the Petition
of B. Manning and others ; also, the Petition of John R. ftobb and others ; also, the Petition
of James Carruthers and others ; also, the Petition of J. Mellander and others ; also, the
Petition of R. Wilkinson and others ; also, the Petition of F. W. Scott and others ; also, the
Petition of John Murphy and others ; also, the Petition of Thomas Spence and others ; also,
the Petition of W. S. Finch and others ; also, the Petition of W. E. Southgate and others ;
also, the Petition of T. Gordon and others ; also, the Petition of E. W. Harris and others ;
also, the Petition of John Jeffs and others ; also, the Petition of James Allan and others ;
also, the Petition of Charles Dixon and others ; also, the Petition of John S. King and
others ; also, the Petition of J. C. McMillan and others ; also, the Petition of John R.
Wood and others ; also, the Petition of McGaw and Winnett and others ; also, the Petition
of h ugh Macdonald and others; also, the Petition of George P. Shears and others; also,
the Petition of David Walker and others ; also, the Petition of D. Black and others ; also,
the Petition of James Farley and others ; also, the Petition of Joseph Alderson and others ;
also, the Petition of Henry McCulloch and others ; also, the Petition of George Cowie and
others ; also, the Petition of E. P. Foster and others : also, the Petition of Charles Yates
and others ; also, the Petition of Thomas E. Gould and others ; also, the Petition of
Charles A. Scadding and others ; also, the Petition of John McConkey and others ; also,
the Petition of /. Ryan and others ;• also, the Petition of W. McFean and others ; also,
the Petition of Robert Johnson and others ; also, the Petition of Thomas Bennett arid others ;
also, the Petition of S. JK. Briggs and others ; also, the Petition of W. Metcalf said others ;
also, the Petition of John Harrison ; also, the Petition of Charles Adams and others ; also,
the Petition of D. H addon and others, all of Toronto, severally praying that the Bill to
incorporate the People's Gas Company, with all the powers now enjoyed by the Con-
sumers' Gas Company, may pass.
Mr. Springer, from the Select Committee to whom was referred Bill (No. 94), To
amend the Assessment Act of 1869; also Bill (No. 88), To amend the Assessment Act of
1869, presented their Report which was read as follows : —
The Committee have examined the Bills to them referred, and report the same with-
out amendment.
Mr. Dnwson moved, seconded by Mr. Lyon,
That there be laid before this House, a Return of all expenditure by the Govern-
ment of Ontario, on Colonization Roads, or other improvements in the Grand Manitoulin
Islands, during, and since 1868.
The Motion was, by leave of the House, withdrawn.
The House resolved itself into a Committee, severally to consider the following
Bills :—
Bill (No. 28), Respecting the Port Dover and Lake Huron Railway Company.
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Bill (No. 55), Respecting the Cobourg, Peterborovgh and Marmora Railway and Mining
Company.
Bill (No. 21), Respecting the Village of Port Elgin.
Bill (No. 66), Respecting the Pickering Harbour and Road Joint Stock Company.
Bill (No. 26), To legalize a Survey in the Township of Matilda.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the several Bills without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bills reported be severally read the third time To-morrow.
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 41), To in-
corporate the Leamington, Comber, and Lake St. Clair Railway Company ; and, after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), re-
ported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 40), To incor-
porate Trinity Medical School ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the
Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had directed him to
report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 9), Respecting St. Paul's Church, Toronto.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 13), To authorise the Synod of the Diocese of Huron, to sell certain lands
in the Township of Warwick.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 60), Respecting the Bothwell (C. W.) Land and Petroleum Company,
Limited.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 92), To empower the Township of Adelaide to convey certain lands.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 72), Respecting the Municipality of Sault Ste. Marie.
^ Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 53), Respecting the Toronto Street Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 58), Respecting the St. Catharines Street Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No 30), To incorporate Alma College at St. Thomas.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 38), Respecting the Municipality of Shunia/i.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 76), To incorporate the Industrial Exhibition Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 56), Respecting the City of Toronto, the Toronto Water Works, and other
matters.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
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Bill (No. 49), Eespecting St. Paul's Church at Newmarket.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 57) To enable the Corporation of Cobourg to aid certain manufacturing
establishments.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Mr. Merriek moved, seconded by Mr. Deacon,
That the Fifth Report of the Standing Committee on Private Bills be referred back
to said Committee with instructions to declare the preamble proven of the Bill to In-
corporate the Loyal Orange Association of Ontario West and the Loyal Orange Associa-
tion of Ontario East.
And the Motion, having been put, was lost on the following division : —
Appleby,
Baker,
Barr,
Bell,
Bethune,
Boulter,
Broder,
Brown,
Cameron,
Ballantyne,
Baxter,
Bishop,
Bon/ield,
Chisholm,
Clarke (Norfolk),
Code,
Creighton,
Deacon,
Mesher,
Grange,
Hargraft,
Kean,
Lauder,
Ferris,
Finlayson,
Fraser,
Gibson,
Graham,
Grant,
Clarke (Wellington,) Hardy,
Cole, Harkin,
Crooks, Hodgins,
Currie, Hunter,
Deroche, Lane,
YEAS.
Messieurs
McDougall (Middle-Mostyn,
sex.) Preston,
McDougall(Simcoe.) Richardson,
McGowan, Robinson,
McRae, Rosevear,
Meredith, Scott,
Merriek, Tooley,
Miller, Wigle,
Monk, Wills.— 34.
NAYS.
Messieurs
Lyon,
McCraney,
McMahon,
Massie,
Mowat,
O'Donoghue,
O'Sullivan,
Pardee,
Patterson. (Essex),
Patterson (York)
Paxton,
Ross,
Sexton,
Sinclair,
Snetsinger,
Springer,
Striker,
Watterworth,
Widdifield,
Williams,
Wilson,
The House then adjourned at 12 midnight.
Thursday, 8th February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table :-
By the Honourable Mr. Pardee — The Petition of the County Council of Lambtor
By Mr. Hay — The Petition of the Township Council of Elma.
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The following Petitions were severally received and read :—
Of Nicol Kingsmill, and ethers ; also, of W. C. Campbell, and others ; also, of Samuel
Stern, and others ; all of Toronto ; severally praying that an Aet may pass to incorporate
the People's Gas Company, with all the powers now enjoyed by the Consumers' Gas
Company.
Of the Town Council of Chatham, praying for certain amendments to the Municipal
Act.
Of the Canada Company, praying for certain amendments to the Drainage Act.
Of the Trustees of School Sections Nos. 5 and 7, Dover East ; also, of the Trustees of
School Section No. 1, Tilbury East, severally praying for certain amendments to the Educa-
tion Bill now before the House.
The following Bills were severally introduced, and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 107) intituled, "An Act respecting the Drainage of certain lands by
Municipalities, and to amend the Act respecting Municipal Institutions. — Mr. Coutts.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 108), intituled " An Act to make the Provisions of an Act respecting the
property of Religious Institutions of the Province of Ontario, applicable to the Church of
England" — Mr. Hay.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 109),. intituled " An Act to amend the Municipal Institutions Act." — Mr.
Ferris.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 110) intituled " An Act respecting the Administration of Estates of Intes-
tates dying without known relatives in Ontario" — The Honourable Attorney-General
Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. Ill), intituled " An Act to provide for certain Amendments and Addi-
tions to the Statutes of the Province, as Consolidated by the Commissioners appointed
for that purpose." — The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 112), intituled "An Act to provide for certain amendments to the Law."
— The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
Return to an Address to the Lieutenant-Governor, praying that he would cause to
be laid before the House, copies of the Correspondence between the Government of the
Dominion and the Government of Ontario relating to the transfer of the River Trent
Works to this Province by the Dominion Government. (Sessional Papers,\No. 35.)
Also : — Papers bearing on the purchase by the Ontario Government of the Rockwood
Asylum. (Sessional Papers, No. 36.)
The Honourable Mr. Pardee moved, seconded by the Honourable Attorney-General
Mowat.
That this House doth ratify the Order in Council reducing the special rate of dues
imposed by Order in Council of 4th October, 1871, on Pine Timber, taken from certain
lands in the Muskoka and Parry Sound Districts, which Order is to the following effect,
viz : — Upon consideration of the Report of the Honourable the Commissioner of Crown
Lands, dated the 18th October, 1876, the Committee of Council advise that, subject to the
ratification of this Order by Resolution of the Legislative Assembly, in default whereof it
shall be inoperative, the rate of dues imposed under the Order in Council of 4th of Octo-
ber, 1871, on Pine Timber taken from lands sold as Timber Berths on 23rdiNovember,
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1877.
1871, or from lands the locatees or purchasers of which were allowed by said Order in
Council to sell the pine on the lands sold or located to them, be reduced to the same rate
as is charged on pine cut under license in other parts of the Province, such reduction to
apply only to Pine Timber cut on the lands referred to since the 1st May, 1876, and in
future till otherwise ordered.
And the Motion, having been put, was carried on the following division :—
YEAS.
Messieurs
Appleby,
Ballantyne,
Baxter,
Bishop,
Bonfield,
Chisholm,
Ferris,
Finlayson,
Fraser,
Gibson,
Graham,
Grant,
Clarke ( Wellington), Hardy,
Cole, Harkin,
Crooks, Hay,
Currie, Hodgins,
Daivson, Hunter,
Deacon, Kean,
Deroche,
Lane,
Long,
Lyon,
McCraney,
McMahon,
Massie,
Miller,
Monk,
Mowat,
O'Donoghue,
Pardee,
Paxton,
Robinson,
Ross,
Sexton,
Sinclair,
Snetsinger,
Springer,
Striker,
Watterworth,
Widdifield,
Wigh,
Williams,
Wood— 49.
NAYS.
Messieurs
Barr,
Bell,
Broder,
Brown,
Code,
Coutts,
Creighton,
Flesher,
Lauder,
McDougall (Mid-
dlesex),
McGvwan,
Meredith,
Merrick,
Mostyn,
O'Sullivan,
McDougall (Simcoe),Patterson (Essex),
Preston,
Richardson,
Rosevear,
Scott,
Tooley,
Wilson— 23.
The Honourable Mr. Crooks moved, seconded by the Honourable Attorney-General
Mowat,
That this House will To-morrow resolve itself into a Committee to consider a cer-
tain proposed Resolution relative to the School of Practical Science.
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, by command of the Lieutenant-Governor,
acquainted the House that the Lieutenant Governor, having been informed of the subject
matter of the proposed Resolution, recommends the same to the consideration of the
House.
Resolved, That this House will To-morrow resolve itself into a Committee to consider
the following Resolution : —
That this House doth approve of the Order of the Lieutenant-Governor in Council,
dated the third day of February, 1877, respecting the School of Practical Science, which
Order and the accompanying memorandum therein referred to, are as follows : —
The Committee of Council have had under consideration the annexed memorandum
of the Honourable the Minister of Education, respecting the School of Practical
Science, dated the 30th day of January, 1877, in which, under the circumstances there-
in mentioned, he recommends that, with the approval of the Legislative Assembly, your
Honour will be pleased to sanction the sale of the property acquired by the School of
Practical Science, to the Toronto Mechanics' Institute, for the purposes of the Insti-
tute, for the sum of twenty-eight thousand dollars, in cash, and that out of the proceeds
the sum of twenty thousand dollars be applied in building a physical laboratory near the
40 Vic. BTH FEBRUARY. 119
University, and that the residue, being the sum of eight thousand dollars, be applied for
the purchase of the necessary apparatus, and that the annual appropriation of the Legis-
lature for the maintenance of the School of Practical Science, (not exceeding $5,600,)
be applied towards the salaries of the proposed instructors in engineering, the assistant in
chemistry, the attendant in mineralogy, and for incidental expenses.
The Committee beg to advise that the said recommendation be approved of by Your
Honour, and that the further recommendations and suggestions contained in the memoran-
dum aforesaid, for the conduct of the said School of Practical Science, be also approved
of by Your Hononr.
Certified,
J. G. SCOTT,
Clerk Executive Council, Ontario.
5th February, 1877.
MEMORANDUM.
Respecting the School of Practical Science.
The objects sought by the establishment of this School were : (1) To encourage the
more practical study of the physical sciences ; (2) To afford professional training to such as
desired to become engineers (civil, mining or mechanical), after a regular course of instruc-
tion ; (3) To improve the knowledge of artizans, by evening classes, and (4) To diffuse
physical and scientific information generally, through popular lectures. The Act 36 Vic.
cap 30, A.D. 1873, was passed to more clearly define these objects and regulate the
School.
The Mechanics' Institute Building, purchased by the former Government, had been
repaired and altered, with the view of making it suitable for this purpose. The under-
signed, in his Report of the 16th June, 1873, to the Lieutenant-Governor, repre-
sented that the attempt to establish the School in the then building, with its de-
ficiencies, unsuitable location, and imperfect appliances, would not only result in present
failure, but operate prejudicially on the School, if established under proper and satisfac-
tory conditions. The undersigned therefore recommended that the present building and
lands should be offered for sale, and the School established as soon as possible in a
building specially adapted for its work, on a site in close proximity to the Provincial
University.
The undersigned had the opportunity, in July, 1873, of examining the working of
the Royal College of Practical Science in Dublin, as well as the Schools of Science and
Art at Kensington, and the Museum of Practical Geology, in Jermyn Street, London. He
was confirmed in his opinion that in Technical Schools there is generally a departure to-
wards subjects of general instruction, and that the establishment and maintenance of any
School of this nature entails a large expenditure of money.
It was accordingly considered desirable not to proceed with the project of erecting a
new building, but to continue the school in its then temporary state, until a definite con-
clusion could be arrived at.
The subject was referred to James Louden, Professor of Mathematics and Natural
Philosophy in University College, and Lecturer on Natural Philosophy in the School.
In his Report of the 17th December, 1875, to the Honourable the Provincial Secretary
(See Sessional Papers, 1876, Vol. VIII., No. 27), Mr. London, after reviewing the whole
question, expresses his conclusions thus : —
" To meet the educational requirements of the country at large it was proposed,
" 1st. — To supply instruction in the various branches of Engineering, and in Chemis
try as applied to the Arts and Manufactures : and,
" 2nd. — To encourage a more practical study of the Physical Sciences.
" These two subjects constitute the main features of the scheme, and are, it may be
remarked, perfectly definite and entirely distinct from one another. Under the first head
120 STH FEBRUARY. 1877.
comes the wide subject of Engineering, embracing the sub-divisions of Civil, Mechanical,
and Mining Engineering. With regard to these and all other professional subjects, I
hold that where the demand is sufficiently large for such training, it is best to provide a
Separate School, independent, that is to say, of the control of an Art faculty. The func-
tions of such a School, at the beginning of last year, were described by me in a communi-
cation to the press, in which I took occasion to point out that there ought to be at least,
five Professors on the staff of such an Institution. These would be required to give
instruction in such subjects as Drawing, Mathematics, applied Mechanics, Surveying,
Assaying, Metallurgy, Civil Engineering &c. The question of the existing need for such
an independent School I have never discussed ; but I think that, before undertaking such
a burden as its support would involve, the country should be clearly informed that the
immediate outlay required for mere outfit would be very large, whilst the cost of main-
tenance would be at least $15,000 per annum. Such an expenditure ought not to be
incurred unless the demand for trained Engineers is very large indeed. It must, more-
over, not be forgotten that the above outlay would be incurred solely for the teaching of
Engineering and applied Chemistry, whilst the still more important object — the promo-
tion of the practical study of the Physical Sciences — would remain to be provided for.
Such provision ought certainly to be made in connection with the University of Toronto,
where, by a moderate outlay for necessary additions, the country could be placed in pos-
session of a good physical laboratory in which students could receive that practical instruc-
tion which makes the teaching of Science really effective. Until such additions are made,
and the Library and Museums placed on a proper footing, the Physical Sciences will not
have received the encouragement which the times require."
Mr. London proceeds to offer the following practical suggestions :
1st. To appoint a Professor of Civil Engineering in University College, who should
give the necessary instruction in Drawing, Surveying, applied Mechanics, and Civil and
Mechanical Engineering.
2nd. The present Professor of Mineralogy and Geology with an assistant and a small
laboratory could supply, besides general instruction, the requisite practical training in sub-
jects of Mining Engineering, such as Assaying and Metallurgy.
3rd. The present Professor of Chemistry, if furnished with a skilled assistant and
additional accommodation and apparatus, could meet the demand for instruction in quali-
tative and quantitative analysis, in the Department of Chemistry.
Sufficient accommodation for the purposes does not exist in University College, and
the sum annually appropriated out of the Income Fund of the University endowment is
required for the maintenance of the present staff of Professors and Lecturers. Mr.
London in his report proposes that a less sum ($5.200) than that now annually appropri-
ated by the Legislature for the maintenance of the School, (5,800) should be applied for
carrying his suggestions into effect. While the amount required for additional laboratory
and further accommodation and apparatus would be much less than the amount to be
realized from any sale of the present Mechanics' Institute Building.
With reference to the other objects of the proposed School, viz : the education of Artiz-
ans, and popular Lecturers on Science, Mr. London expresses these views :
Many persons fail to distinguish between the scientific training of an Arts or Engi-
neering Student, on the one hand, and the education of the Artizan classes, and the teach-
ing of popular Science on the other. The latter constitute entirely different questions,
whose solution depend in no way upon that of the formes. Where there is a large Arti-
zan class, I am free to admit that it is well to furnish those whose early education has been
neglected, with facilities for improving themselves. Such classes, however, form no neces-
sary adjunct to a School of Science, although they may be carried on in conjunction there-
with. Under any circumstances, the Mechanics' Institute is the proper place for such in-
struction to be given. With regard to the question of popular Science Lectures on the
other hand, Legislation can do almost nothing. It is only in a very large community that
we may expect to find a sufficient number of individuals to take a permanent interest In
such subjects ; and even those appreciative audiences are more easily obtained than suc-
cessful Lecturers. I entertain the hope that something will be done ere long, towards
establishing, in a small way, a few short courses of such lectures in connection with the
Canadian Institute. Established, as that Institution is, for the promotion of original
40 Vic. STH FEBRUARY. 121
research in Science, it is, I conceive, at the same time the proper place to which we should
look for the best popular Lecturers that the country can produce. Whilst, however, the
Canadian Institute is worthy of every encouragement the Government can bestow, so far
as the promotion of original research and the publication of its Journal are concerned, I
consider that any scheme for establishing such lectures there, should be supported by the
citizens of Toronto, and not by the Province at large.
The undersigned is satisfied that there is no such demand in this Province for a dis-
tinct and separate Professional School for the training of Engineers, as would justify the
large expenditure both in capital account and for annual maintenance, which would be
required ; and he agrees that the study of the physical sciences would be much promoted
by the proposed plan of utilizing the Professors (1) of Chemistry, (2) of Natural Phil-
osophy, (3) of Geology and Mineralogy, and (4) of Natural History and Botany in Uni-
versity College.
The services of these Professors can be obtained without expense ; and it will only
be necessary to pay for a skilled assistant to the Professor of Chemistry, and an ordinary
.attendant for the Professor of Mineralogy.
The subjects taught by the Professors of these four Departments include so much of
the range of Physical Science, that, with the proper apparatus, a physical laboratory and
appliances, the means of obtaining a complete theoretical and practical training would be
secured for these pursuits in which physical science is the ground work, and with the
addition of an Instructor in Engineering, the original objects of the School would be pre-
served, and carried into full effect. The training which would be thus afforded is intended
to be available both to the University student pursuing his regular course, and to all
others who may desire instruction in these special branches of knowledge.
Since it was understood that the position of the School in this building was tem-
porary, the Directors of the Mechanics' Institute have expressed a desire to purchase back
their property, and have offered the sum of twenty-eight thousand dollars, in cash, for the
same. Considering the different estimates of the present saleable value of this property,
and the objects for which the Mechanics' Institute desire to regain the full possession
thereof, the undersigned deems it in the public interest, that this offer should be accepted.
Having regard, therefore, to the foregoing circumstances, the undersigned would respect-
fully recommend that His Honour in Council, with the approval of fhe Legislative As-
sembly, may be pleased to sanction the sale of the property acquired for the School of
Practical Science to the Toronto Mechanics' Institute, at the price mentioned, of twenty-
eight thousand dollars in cash, to be held for the purposes of the Institute, and that out
of the proceeds the sum of twenty thousand dollars be applied in building a Physical
Laboratory near the University ; and that the residue, being the sum of eight thousand
dollars, be applied for the purchase of the necessary apparatus ; and that the annual ap-
propriation of the Legislature for the maintenance of the School of Practical Science (not
exceeding $5,600) be applied towards the salaries of the proposed Instructor in Engi-
neering, the Assistant in Chemistry, the attendant in Mineralogy, and for incidental
expenses.
ADAM CROOKS,
Education Department, Minister of Education.
Toronto, Ontario, 30th Jan., 1877.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney- General Mowat, seconded by the Honoura-
ble Mr. Pardee,
Ordered, That on Friday next, and at each future Sitting of this House, for the pre-
sent Session, Government Orders shall have precedence, except that Private Bills shall
have precedence on Mondays and Wednesdays.
The following Bills were severally read the third time, and passed : — >
Bill (No. 63), Eespecting the Presbyterian Church at Orillia.
Bill (No. 68), To Amend and Repeal certain Enactments of the last Session of the
Legislature of this Province.
Bill (No. 28), Respecting the Port Dover and Lake Huron Railway Company.
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122 STH FEBRUARY. 1877.
* Bill (No. 66), Respecting the Pickering Harbour and Road Joint Stock Company.
Bill (No. 26), To legalize a Survey in the Township of Matilda.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 97), Respecting
Mortgages and Sales of Personal Property ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington,) reported, That the Committee
had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 101). Respecting
the Free Grants and Homestead Act of 1868 ; and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington,) reported, That the Committee
had made some progress, and directed him to ask leave to sit again.
Eesolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 102), Respecting
the County Court, General Sessions of the Peace, and Surrogate Court of the County of
York ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr.
Clarke (Wellington) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill
without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into Committee otf Supply.
In the Committee.
Resolved, That there be granted to Her Majesty, for the service of the year 1877,
the following sums : —
12. To defray the expenses of Legislation as follows: —
Mr. Speaker $1,500 00
Clerk of the House 1,80000
Clerk Assistant 1,000 00
Law Clerk 1,000 00
Clerk 600 00
Librarian 1,200 00
Clerk of the Crown in Chancery 600 00
Accountant of the House, and Stationery Clerk 400 00
Sergeant-at-Arms 600 00
Housekeeper and Chief Messenger 600 00
Three Messengers 1,350 00
Fireman 400 00
Night Watchman 450 00
Sessional Writers, Messengers and Pages, 5,000 00
Postages, and cost of House Post Office 4,000 00
Stationery, including Printing Paper, Printing and Binding, 20,000 00
Printing Bills and Distributing Statutes 3,000 00
Increase of Library 2,800 00
Indemnity to Members, including Mileage 72,600 00
Subscription to Newspapers and Periodicals 1,000 00
Repairs and Furniture 2,000 00
Fuel.. 1,50000
Gas and other lighting 1,700 00
Water 450 00
Contingencies - 200 00
Totai $125,750 00
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And the House having continued to sit in Committee until twelve of the clock, mid-
night.
FRIDAY, 9th February, 1877.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarice (Wellington), reported, That the
Committee1 had come to a Resolution ; and, That the Committee had directed him to ask
leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received To-morrow.
Resolved, That the House will again resolve itself into Committee of Supply To-
morrow.
The House then adjourned at 1.45 A.M.
Friday, 9th February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. Sinclair — The Petition of the County Council of Bruce.
By Mr. Kean — The Petition of the Council of the United Townships of Orillia and
Mutchedash.
By Mr Broder — The Petition of the School Board of Iroquois.
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of the Honourable John Carling and others, of London, praying for certain amend-
ments to the Spirit license Act.
Of John Quinn, of Orillia, praying that the Bill now before the House to extend the
limits of the Town of Orillia may not pass.
Of the Town Council of Guelph, praying for certain amendments to the Bill now be-
fore the House to incorporate the Guelph Street Railway Company.
Of the Township Council of Zone, praying for certain amendments to the Drainage
Act.
Of the Village Council of Stirling, respecting the High School at Stirling.
Of Robert A. Morrison and others, of Arthw, praying that the Bill now before the
House to authorize the Synod of the Diocese of Niagara to sell certain lands in Arthur
may not pass.
Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), from the Select Standing Committee to whom was referred
the consideration of the Public Accounts, presented their Second Report, which was read
as follows : —
The Committee have made a full examination of the Public Accounts for 1875, in so
far as they relate to Legislation and Colonization Roads, and herewith submit the evidence
taken before them, and a copy of the record and minutes of their proceedings to the
present date, and of documents placed before them during their investigations. (Appen-
dix No. 1.)
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
Special Report op the operations of the Depository Branch of the Education Depart-
ment, Ontario, from 1850 to 1875 inclusive. (Sessional Papers, No. 23.)
124 9TH FEBRUARY. 1877.
Also : — In obedience to an Order of the House : — Copies of all correspondence in the
possession of the Government relative to appointments to the Magistracy in the North
Riding of Essex. (Sessional Papers, No. 37.)
Also : — Further correspondence respecting claims made to Reward offered for the
apprehension of the murderers of Thomas Scott. (Sessional Papers, No 38.)
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Pardee,
Ordered, That the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on Bill (No. 37),
Respecting the Canadian Literary Institute at Woodstock, the same being in connection
with a religious institution.
The Order of the Day for the Third Reading of Bill (No. 41), To incorporate the
Leamington, Comber, and Lake St. Clair Railway Company, having been read,
On motion of Mr. Wigle, seconded by Mr. Sinclair,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith referred to a
Committee of the Whole House, with instructions to amend the same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into a Committee ; and, after some time spent
therein, Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as
instructed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The Order of the Day for the Third Reading of Bill (No. 21), Respecting the Village
of Port Elgin, having been read,
On motion of Mr. Sinclair, seconded by Mr. Wigle,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith referred to a
Committee of the Whole House, with instructions to amend the same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after some time spent
therein, Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as
instructed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The following Bill was read the third time and passed : —
Bill (No. 97), Respecting Mortgages and Sales of Personal Property.
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 101), Re-
specting the FreeJGrauts and Homestead Act of 18C8 ; and, after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 104), Respecting
Constables; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr.
Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill
without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into Committee of Supply.
In the Committee.
Revoked, That there be granted to Her Majesty, for the service of the year 1877, the
following sums : —
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26. To defray the expense of the Training of Public School
Teachers, as follow : —
Travelling expenses of Students at Normal Schools, Toronto
and Ottawa $4,000 00
Towards maintenance 3,200 00
Towards Public Schools selected as County Model Schools. . 2,250 00
County Teachers' Institutes and Associations (re vote) 2,500 00
Printing, stationery and travelling expenses (re- vote) 300 00
Total $12,250 00
31. To defray the expenses of providing Maps, Apparatus, Library and Prize
Books $60,000 00
32. To defray the expense of the Educational Depository, as follow : —
SALARIES :
Clerk of Libraries , « $1,400 00
Cashier 900 00
Despatch clerk , 500 00
Clerk of sales , 400 00
Clerk of stores 400 00
Clerk of stock 400 00
Clerk of invoices 300 00
Copying clerk 240 00
Junior assistant clerk 200 00
Furnaceman and messenger 365 00
EXPENSES :
Postages 500 00
Stationery 500 00
Fuel, water and light ; 650 00
Printing forms and circulars , 450 00
Printing catalogues 350 00
Packing paper, twine, nails, &c 350 00
Shelving, fixtures and painting 300 00
Furnishings and incidentals 300 00
Expenses of purchases, &c., in England and United States ... 700 00
Total $9,205 00
45. To defray the expenses of the School of Practical Science, as follow : —
SALARIES :
Instructor in Engineering .. $1,200 00
Instructor in Chemistry 1,200 00
Instructor in Drawing 800 00
Assistant in Natural Philosophy 600 00
EXPENSES :
Apparatus and chemicals, $200 00
Gas 300 00
Fuel 400 00
Water 290 00
Ordinary repairs and incidentals 100 00
Housekeeper ... 600 00
Total $5,690 00
126 QTH FEBRUARY. 1877.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had come to several Resolutions ; and, That the Committee had directed him
to ask leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received on Monday next.
Resolved, That the House will again resolve itself into Committee of Supply on
Monday next.
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 42), Respect-
ing the Credit Valley Railway Company ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had
directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee severally to consider the following
Bills r-
Bill (No. 10), To amend the Acts relating to the Whitly and Port Perry Extension
Railway Company.
Bill (No. 24), Relating to St. Mark's Church, Niagara.
Bill (No. 48), Relating to the Hamilton and Nwth- Western Railway Company.
Bill (No. 52), To incorporate the Guelph Street Railway Company.
Bill (No. 9), Respecting St. Paul's Church, Toronto.
Bill (No. 13), To authorize the Synod of the Diocese of Huron to sell certain lands in
the Township of Warwick.
Bill (No. 60), Respecting the Bothwell (C. W.) Land and Petroleum Company
(Limited).
Bill (No. 92), To empower the Township of Adelaide to convey certain lands.
Bill (No. 72), Respecting the Municipality of Sautt Ste. Marie.
Bill (No. 58), Respecting the St. Catharines Street Railway Company.
Bill (No. 38), Respecting the Municipality of Shuniah.
Bill (No. 49), Respecting St. Paul's Church at Newmarket.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the several Bills with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the several Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bills reported be severally read the third time on Monday next.
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 83), To
amend the Act respecting the sale of Fermented or Spirituous Liquors ; and, after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported,
That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration on Monday next.
The House then adjourned at 12 o'clock midnight.
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Monday, 12th February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. Bell — The Petition of A. Yokolans and others, of Toronto.
By Mr. Clarke (Wellington) — The Petition of James Sommermlle and others, of Erin ;
also, the Petition of John Stauffer and others, of East Garrafraxa ; also, the Petition of
Charles Hay and others, of Nichol.
By Mr. Hay— The Petition of the Town Council of Stratford.
The following Petitions were received and read : —
Of the County Council of Lambton, praying for certain amendments to the Drainage
Act.
Of the Township Council of Elma, praying that an Act may pass to legalize a By-
law granting aid to the Stratford and Huron Railway.
Of the County Council of Bruce ; also, of the School Board of Iroquois, severally
praying for certain amendments to the School Law.
Of the Township Council of the united Townships of Orillia and Matchedash, pray-
ing for certain amendments to the Bill extending the limits of the Town of Orillia.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time.: —
Bill (No. 113), intituled " An Act to amend the Act respecting the practice of Physic
and Surgery, and the study of Anatomy. " — Mr. Baxter.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
Bill (No. 114), intituled "An Act to amend Cap. 2, 38 Vic., respecting the re-adjust-
ment of the representation in the Legislative Assembly." — Mr. Widdifield.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Wednesday next.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, in obedience to an Order of the
House, —
Return, shewing in detail, all property come to the hands of the Ontario Government,
or any officer thereof representing the Crown, belonging to the late Andrew Mercer, of
Toronto, showing amount of personal estate, specifying of what the same consists ; amount of
real property, stating value and where situated ; amount realized for the sale or transfer of
said property ; amounts in detail paid out for law costs or other expenses, showing to whom
paid and on what authority ; a statement showing where moneys and securities of said estate
are now deposited, and in whose custody. (Sessional Papers, No. 7.)
The following Bills were severally read the third time, and passed : —
Bill No. 40), To incorporate Trinity Medical School
Bill (No. 55), Respecting the Cobourg, Peterborough and Marmora Railway and Mining
Company.
Bill (No. 101), Respecting the Free Grants and Homestead Act of 1868.
Bill (No. 104), Respecting Constables.
Bill (No. 10), To amend the Acts relating to the Whitby and Port Perry Extension
Railway Company.
Bill (No, 24), Relating to St. Mark's Church, Niagara..
Bill (No. 48), Relating to the Hamilton and North-Western Railway Company.
Bill (No. 52), To incorporate the Guelph Street Railway Company.
Bill (No. 9), Respecting St. Paul's Church, Toronto.
Bill (No. 13), To authorize the Synod of the Diocese of Huron, to sell certain lands in
the Township of Warwick.
128 12TH FEBRUARY. 1877.
Bill (No. 60), Respecting the Bothwell (C. W.) Land and Petroleum Company
(Limited.)
Bill (No. 92), To empower the Township of Adelaide to convey certain lands.
Bill (No. 68), Respecting the St. Catharines Street Railway Company.
Bill (No. 49), Respecting St. Paul's Church at Newmarket.
The Order of the Day for the Third Reading of Bill (No. 42), Respecting the Credit
Valley Railway Company, having been read,
Mr. Bell moved, That that the Bill be now read the third time.
Mr. Massie moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Paxton,
That all the words in the motion after "that" be struck out, and the following
inserted in lieu thereof: — "the Bill be not now read the third time, but that it be
forthwith referred to a Committee of the Whole House, with instructions to amend the
same by adding at the end of the third clause thereof the following words : ' in which
case it shall be in the discretion of the Council of the Municipality to submit a By-law to
the vote of the qualified electors and except as herein provided.' "
And, objection having been taken, that the Amendment was irregular, for want of
notice, Mr. Speaker, upon being appealed to, decided, That as no notice had been given he
sustained the objection.
The original Motion, having been then put, was carried, and the Bill was read the
third time, and passed.
The Order of the Day for the Third Reading of Bill (No. 72), Respecting the Muni-
cipality of Sault St. Marie, having been read,
On motion of Mr. Dawson, seconded by Mr. Clarke (Norfolk),
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith referred back
to a Committee of the Whole House, with instructions to amend the same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time
spent therein, Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had amended the
Bill as instructed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of the Bill (No. 38), Respecting the
Municipality of Shuniah, having been read,
On motion of Mr. Dawson, seconded by Mr. Clarke (Norfolk),
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith referred to a
Committee of the Whole House with instructions to amend the same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time spent
therein, Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as
instructed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee severally to consider the following
Bills :—
Bill (No. 22), Respecting the Roman Catholic Episcopal Corporation of the Diocese
of Hamilton.
BiM (No. 39), To incorporate the People's Gas Company.
Bill No. 29), To incorporate the Metropolitan Street Railway Company of Toronto.
Bill (No. 32), For the incorporation of the Town of BelleviMe as a City, and for the
Consolidation of the Debt thereof.
Bill (No. 30), To incorporate Alma College at St. Thomas.
Bill (No. 76), To incorporate the Industrial Exhibition Company.
Bill (No. 56), Respecting the City of Toronto, the Toronto Water Works, and other
matters.
Bill (No. 57), To enable the Corporation of Cobowg to aid certain manufacturing
establishments.
40 VlG. 12TH AND 13TH FEBRUARY. 129
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the several Bills with certain amendments.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bills reported be severally read the third time To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 45), To enable the Synod of Niagara to sell certain lands in Arthur.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 7), To extend and define the limits of the Town of Orillia.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
The Amendments made in Committee on Bill (No. 83), To amend the Act respecting
the sale of Fermented or Spiritous Liquors, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 80), For the
encouragement of Agriculture, Horticulture, Arts and Manufactures ; and, after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), reported,
That the Committee had made some progress, and directed him to ask leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 93), To amend the
several Acts respecting the Education Department, Public and High Schools, and the
University of Toronto ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the
Chair \ and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had made some pro-
gress, and directed him to ask leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
The House then adjourned at 11.20 P.M.
Tuesday, 13th February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
Mr. Clarice (Wellington), from the Committee on Printing, presented their Third
Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee recommend that the following documents be printed :
Minutes of all meetings of the Senate of the University of Toronto, held in 1874,
1875, and 1876, relating to the affiliation of Medical Schools with said University.
(Sessional Papers No. 32.)
Correspondence between the Government of the Dominion and the Government of
Ontario, relating to the transfer of the River Trent Works to Ontario. (Sessional Papers
No. 35.)
Report on the Ontario School of Agriculture and Experimental Farm for 1876.
(Sessional Papers No. 12.)
Further correspondence respecting claims to reward for apprehension of the mur-
derers of Thomas /Scott in Manitoba. (Sessional Papers No. 38.)
Reports and evidence regarding the internal management of the Central Prison.
(Sessional Papers No. 40.)
Statement of all property belonging to the Endowment Fund of the University of
Toronto, University College, and Upper Canada College ; also, the annual income and
expenditure from 1867 to 1876 inclusive. (Sessional Papers No. 31.)
130 13TH FEBRUARY. 1877.
Papers relating to the purchase of the Rockwood Asylum by the Ontario Government.
(Sessional Papers No. 36.)
Papers of all property come to the Ontario Government, belonging to the late
Andrew Mercer, of Toronto. (Sessional Papers No., 7.)
The Committee recommend that the following documents be not Printed : —
Annual Return of the Ontario Mutual Life Assurance Company. (Sessional Papers
No. 34.)
Correspondence relating to the High School at FonthilL (Part of Sessional Papers
No. 23.)
Correspondence relating to Magistracy Appointments in the North Riding of Essex.
(Sessional Papers No. 37.)
Resolved, That this House doth concur in the Third Report of the Committee on
Printing.
The following Bills were severally read the third time, and passed : —
Bill (No. 33), To incorporate the Ontario Missionary Society of the Methodist Epis-
copal Church in Canada.
Bill (No. 22), Respecting the Roman Catholic Episcopal Corporation of the Diocese
of Hamilton.
Bill (No. 76), To incorporate the Industrial Exhibition Company.
The House, according to Order, resolved itself into a Committee to consider a cer-
tain proposed Resolution relative to the School of Practical Science ; and, after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Baxter reported, That the Com-
mittee had come to a Resolution.
Ordered, That the Report be received forthwith.
Mr. Baxter, for the Committee, reported the Resolution, which was read as follows :
Resolved, That this House doth approve of the Order of the Lieu tenant-Governor in
Council, dated the third day of February, 1877, respecting the School of Practical Science,
which Order is as follows : —
The Committee of Council have had under consideration the annexed memorandum
of the Honourable the Minister of Education, respecting the School of Practical Science,
dated the 30th day of January, 1877, in which, under the circumstances therein men-
tioned, he recommends that, with the approval of the Legislative Assembly, Your Honour
will be pleased to sanction the sale of the property acquired by the School of Practical
Science, to the Toronto Mechanics' Institute, for the purposes of the Institute, for the
sum of twenty-eight thousand dollars, in cash, and that out of the proceeds the
sum of twenty thousand dollars be applied in building a physical laboratory near the Uni-
versity, and that the residue, being the sum of eight thousand dollars, be applied for the
purchase of the necessary apparatus, and that the annual appropriation of the Legislature
for the maintenance of the School of Practical Science, (not exceeding $5,600,) be applied
towards the salaries of the proposed instructors in engineering, the assistant in chemistry,
the attendant in mineralogy, and for incidental expenses.
The Committee beg to advise that the said recommendation be approved of by Your
Honour, and that the further recommendations and suggestions contained in the memo-
randum aforesaid, for the conduct of the said School of Practical Science, be also approved
of by Your Honour.
Certified,
J. G. SCOTT,
Cfterk Executive Council, Ontario.
5th February, 1877.
The Resolution, having been read the second time, was agreed to.
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The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No 103), To give the right of Voting to Farmers' Sons in certain cases.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 95), To amend the Act respecting Line Fences.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Mr. Clarke (Wellington,) from the Committee of Supply, reported the following
Resolutions : —
1. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five thousand five hundred and twelve dollars
be granted to Her Majesty to defray expenses of Government House for year ending
31st December, 1877.
2. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three thousand three hundred and fifty dollars
be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Lieutenant-Governor's office for
the year ending 31st December, 1877.
3. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fourteen thousand five hundred and seventy
dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Executive Council and
Attorney -General's Office for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
4. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-one thousand dollars be granted to
Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Treasurer's Office for the year ending 31st
December, 1877.
5. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-one thousand one hundred dollars be
granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Secretary and Registrar's Office for
the year ending 31st December, 1877.
6. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty thousand and twenty -two dollars be
granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Department of Public Works for
the year ending 31st December, 1877.
7. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand two hundred dollars be granted
to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Department of Agriculture for the year
ending 31st December, 1877.
8. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand four hundred dollars be granted
to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Immigration for the year ending 31st December,
1877.
9. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six thousand six hundred and fifty dollars be
granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Inspection of Public Institutions for the
year ending 31st December, 1877.
10. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty-two thousand and sixty dollars be
granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Crown Lands Department for the
year ending 31st December, 1877.
11. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Ten thousand two hundred and ten dollars
be granted to Her Majesty to defray Miscellaneous expenses for the year ending 31st
December, 1877, as follows : — Cost of Official Gazette, Four thousand two hundred dol-
lars. Queen's Printer's salary, One thousand two hundred dollars. Clerk's salary in
Queen's Printer's office Three hundred and sixty dollars. Inspector of Registry Offices'
salary (including travelling expenses), Two thousand dollars. Inspector of Division
Courts' salary, One thousand four hundred dollars. Travelling expenses of Inspector of
Division Courts, Six hundred and fifty dollars. Expenses of Inspection of Offices of Deputy
Clerks of the Crown, Deputy Masters, and Registrars in Chancery and County Courts,
Three hundred dollars. Contingencies, including Stationery and Postage, One hundred
dollars.
12. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and twenty-five thousand
seven hundred and fifty dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Le-
gislation for the year ending 31st of December, 1877.
13. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty thousand one hundred and forty-
five dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Court of Chancery
for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
14. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Nine thousand five hundred and twenty dol-
132 13TH FEBRUARY. 1877.
lars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Court of Queen's Bench for
the year ending 31st December, 1877.
15. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five thousand three hundred and forty dol-
lars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Court of Common Pleas
for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
16. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifteen thousand six hundred and ten dol-
lars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Superior Judges and Court
of Appeal for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
17. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four thousand eight hundred and sixty dol-
lars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Practice and other Courts for
the year ending 31st December, 1877.
18. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and sixty-three thousand two
hundred dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Criminal Justice for
the year ending 31st December, 1877.
19. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty- seven thousand five hundred and sixty-
seven dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Miscellaneous Justice for
the year ending 31st December, 1877.
20. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred and forty thousand dollars be
granted to Her Majesty to defraj^ the expenses of Public and Separate Schools for the
year ending 31st December, 1877.
21. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-eight thousand six hundred dollars
be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Inspection of Public and Separate
Schools for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
22. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twelve thousand dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of Schools in new and poor Townships for the year ending
31st December, 1877.
23. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seventy-eight thousand dollars be granted to
Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Collegiate Institutes and High Schools for the year
ending 31st December, 1877.
24. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eight thousand two hundred dollars be
granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Inspection of Collegiate Institutes and
High Schools for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
25. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six thousand four hundred and fifty dollars
be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of County Examinations of Public School
Teachers for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
26. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twelve thousand two hundred and fifty
dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the training of Public School
Teachers for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
27. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirty -five thousand five hundred dollars be
granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Superannuated High and Public School
Teachers for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
28. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-six thousand seven hundred and fifty
dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Normal and Model Schools,
Toronto, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
29. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three thousand nine hundred and fifty dollars
be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Provincial Educational Museum
and Library for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
30. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand three hundred and sixty dollars
be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Journal of Education for the
year ending 31st December, 1877.
31. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixty thousand dollars be granted to
Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Maps, Apparatus, Library and Prize books apper-
taining to education, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
32. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Nine thousand two hundred and five
dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Education Depository
for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
33. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty thousand three hundred and fifty
dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Education Office for the
year ending 31st December, 1877.
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34. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirteen thousand eight hundred and fifty
dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Normal School at Ottawa,
for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
35. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eighty-seven thousand and forty eight dollars
be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Asylum for the Insane at Toronto,
for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
36. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eighty-six thousand eight hundred dollars
be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Asylum for the Insane at London,
for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
37. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty-two thousand one hundred and ninety-
five dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Asylum for the Insane
at Rockwood, Kingston, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
38. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirty-three thousand four hundred and
seventy-four dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Asylum
for the Insane at Hamilton, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
39. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-two thousand five hundred and
eighteen dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Asylum for the
Insane, Orillia, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
40. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-three thousand one hundred and
ninety dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Provincial Reform-
atory at Penetanguishene, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
41. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Forty-seven thousand eight hundred and
ninety dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Central Prison at
Toronto, for the year ending 31st December 1877.
42. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirty-five thousand six hundred and eighty-
three dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Institution of the
Deaf and Dumb, Belleville, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
43. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-five thousand nine hundred and
ninety-five dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Institution
for the Blind at Brantford, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
44. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seventeen thousand three hundred and sixty
dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the School of Agriculture
for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
45. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five thousand six hundred and ninety dollars
be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the School of Practical Science for
the year ending 31st December, 1877.
46. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty-three thousand one hundred and thirty-
seven dollars and forty two cents be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of
Immigration for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
47. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and one thousand eight hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Agriculture and
Arts, and Literary and Scientific Institutions for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
48. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty-nine thousand six hundred and ten
dollars and ninety cents be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Hospitals
and Charities for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
49. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirty-five thousand seven hundred dollars
be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Miscellaneous Expenditure for the
year ending 31st December, 1877, as follows : — To defray the expenses of collection of
Revenue for Law Stamps and Licenses, Two thousand five hundred dollars. To defray
the expenses in connection with Municipalities and other funds, Five hundred dollars.
To defray the expenses attending the settlement of the Municipal Loan Fund Debt
and Surplus Schemes, Six hundred dollars. To defray the expenses re Ontario and Quebec
Settlement, Four thousand dollars. To defray the expenses re Northern and Western
Boundaries, Four thousand dollars. To defray the expenses of Marriage Licenses, Four
hundred dollars. To defray the expenses of Inspection of Railways, Five hundred dollars.
To defray the expenses of a grant to the Ontario Rifle Association, Six hundred dollars.
To defray the expenses of Insurance on Public Buildings and Furniture, Two thousand
two hundred dollars. To defray the expenses of the Consolidation of the Statute Law,
134 13TH FEBRUARY. 1877.
Twelve thousand dollars. To defray the expenses of Elections, Two thousand doliars.
To defray the expenses of Contested Elections, One thousand dollars. To cover gra-
tuities to officers whose services may be dispensed with, Five thousand dollars. For
repairs and care of Brock's Monument, Four hundred dollars.
50. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty thousand dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray Unforseen and Unprovided Expenses for the year ending 31st Decem-
ber, 1877.
51. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-seven thousand and seventy-five
dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses at the works at the Asylum for
the Insane, Toronto, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
52. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eighty- eight thousand eight hundred and
forty dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of works at the Asylum
for the Insane, London, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
53. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and three thousand nine
hundred and fifty dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of works at
the Asylum, Hamilton, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
54. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six thousand seven hundred and thirty-two
dollars and fourteen cents be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of the Asylum
for Idiots at Orillia, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
55. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand nine hundred dollars be granted
to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of works at the Provincial Reformatory, Penetan-
guishene, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
56. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifteen thousand two hundred and fifty dol-
lars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of works at the Central Prison,
Toronto, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
57. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-eight thousand three hundred and
fifty-fire dollars be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of works at the Deaf
and Dumb Institute, Belleville, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
58. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-three thousand and twenty- five dollars
be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of works at the Blind Institute,
Branlfordj for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
59. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixteen thousand eight hundred dollars be
granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of works at the School of Agriculture,
Guelph, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
60. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five hundred dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of works at the School of Practical Science, Toronto, for
the year ending 31st December, 1877.
61. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four thousand dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of works at the Normal School and Education Office,
Toronto, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
62. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand two hundred dollars be granted
to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of works at the Normal School, Ottawa, for the
year ending 31st December, 1877.
63. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five thousand dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of works at Osgoode Hall, Toronto, for the year ending 31st
December, 1877.
64. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty thousand dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of works at Government House, Toronto, for the year end-
ing 31st December, 1877.
65. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand five hundred dollars be granted
to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of works at the Parliament and Departmental
Buildings, Toronto, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
66. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three thousand dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of works in the District of Algoma, for the year ending
31st December, 1877.
67. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four thousand four hundred dollars be granted
to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of works in the Thunder Bay District for the year
ending 31st December, 1877.
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68. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of the works in the Nipissing District, for the year ending
31st December, 1877.
69. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six hundred dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of works in the Muskoka District, for the year ending 3 1st
December, 1877.
70. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of works in the Parry Sound District, for the year ending
31st December, 1877.
71. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four thousand eight hundred dollars be
granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of works at Muskoka River, for the year
ending 31st December, 1877.
72. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seven thousand nine hundred dollars be
granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of works at Wye River, for the year end-
ing 31st December, 1877.
73. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six thousand dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of works between Mary's and Fairy Lakes for the year
ending 31st December, 1877.
74. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of works on Scugog River for the year ending 31st Decem-
ber, 1877.
75. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of works on Balsam River for the year ending 31st Decem-
ber, 1877.
76. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eight thousand dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of works at Gull and Burnt Rivers, for the year ending
31st December, 1877.
77. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five thousand dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of Surveys, Inspections, Arbitrations and charges not
otherwise provided for, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
78. Resolved, That a sum not exceding Two thousand dollars be granted to Her
Majesty to defray the expenses of works in maintenance of Locks, Dams and Swing
Bridges, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
79. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand seven hundred dollars be
granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Lock Masters' and Bridge Tenders'
salaries, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
80. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seventy-seven thousand three hundred dollars
be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of construction and repairs of Coloniza-
tion Roads, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
81. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Ninety-one thousand six hundred dollars be
granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of Crown Land Expenditure, for the year
ending 31st December, 1877.
82. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and four thousand three hund-
red and nineteen dollars and twenty-seven cents be granted to Her Majesty to defray the
expenses of the Refund Account, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
83. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Nineteen thousand two hundred and twenty-
three dollars and eighty-seven cents be granted to Her Majesty to defray the expenses of
certain services of the year 1875, as detailed in the Public Accounts for 1875.
The several Resolutions from the Committee of Supply having been read the second
time.
Ordered, That the further consideration of the Eleventh, Eighteenth, Thirty-fifth,
Forty-first, Forty-fourth, Forty-fifth, Forty-eighth, Forty-ninth, Fiftieth, Fifty-ninth,
Sixtieth, Sixty-fourth, and Eightieth Resolutions be postponed until To-morrow.
The remaining Resolutions were agreed to.
136 13TH FEBRUAHY. 1877.
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 115), intituled, "An Act for establishing a Superannuation and Benefit
Fund for the Police in Cities." — The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 93), To
amend the several Acts respecting the Education Department, Public and High Schools,
and the University of Toronto ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed
the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), reported, That the Committee had made some
progress, and directed him to ask leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again to-morrow.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House by command of the Lieutenant-
Oovernor : —
Correspondence and papers regarding moneys received by the late Judge Wilson as
Real Representative for the County of Norfolk, and the disposition made of such moneys.
(Sessional Papers No. 39.)
The Order of the Day for the Third Reading of Bill (No. 102), Respecting the
County Court, General Sessions of the Peace, and Surrogate Court of the County of
York, having been read,
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat moved,
That the Bill be now read the third time.
The Honourable Mr. Cameron moved in amendment, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. McDougall,
That all the words in the motion after "That" be struck out, and the following
inserted in lieu thereof : — " the Bill be not now read the third time, but that it be re-
ferred back to a Committee of the Whole House with instructions to strike out the last
clause, respecting the appointment of Short-hand Writers."
And the Amendment, having been put, was lost on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Baker, Code, Lander, Patterson (Essex),
Barr, Coutts, Long Preston,
Bell, Creighton, McDougall(Simcoe), Richardson
Boulter, Deacon, McGowan, Rosevear,
Broder, Flesher, McRae, Tooley,
Brown, Harkin, Merrick, Wigle,
Cameron, Kean, Mostyn, Wills. — 28
NAYS.
Messieurs
Appleby, Clarke (Norfolk}, Ferris, Hardy,
Ballantyne, Clarke (Wellington), Finlay son, Har graft,
Baxter, Cole, Fraser, Hay,
Btthune, Crooks, Gibson, Hodgins,
Bishop, Currie, Graham, Hunter,
Bonfield, Dawson, Grange, Lane,
Chisholm, Deroche, Grant, Lyon,
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AlcCraney
O'Donoghue,
Sexton,
Widdifield,
McMahon,
Patterson (York),
Sinclair,
Williams,
Massie,
Paxton,
Snetsinger,
Wilson,
Miller,
Robinson,
Springer,
Wood— 46.
Mowat,
Ross,
Watterworth,
The original Motion, having been then put, was carried, and the Bill was read the
third time and passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 73), To amend the
Act respecting Dentistry ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the
Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had directed him to
Report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 94), To amend the
Assessment Act of 1869 ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the
Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had directed him to
Report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House then adjourned at 11.20 P.M.
Wednesday, 14th February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
Delino Dexter Calvin, Esquire, Member for the Electoral District of Frontenac, having
first taken the Oaths, and subscribed the Roll, took his seat.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat — The Petition of the Agricultural
Society of the North Riding of Oxford.
By the Honourable Mr. McDougall — The Petition of the County Council of Simcoe.
By Mr. Clarke (Wellington) — The Petition of Henry Webster and others, of East
Garafraxa ; also, the Petition of Peter Gerrie and others, of West Garafraxa.
By Mr. McCraney — The Petition of Johnson Soper and others, of Kent.
The following Petitions were severally received, and read : —
Of A* Jfokolans, and others, praying for certain amendments to the Spirit License Act.
Of John Stauffer, and others, of East Garafraxa ; also, of Charles Hay, and others, of
Nichol ; also, of James /Summerville, and others, of Erin, respecting the Credit Valley Rail-
way Company.
Of the Town Council of Stratford, praying for certain amendments to the Registry Act.
Mr. Wills, from the Select Committee to whom was referred Bill (No. 81), To facili-
tate the formation of Joint Stock Companies for the manufacturing of Butter, Cheese, and
other Dairy Products, presented their Report, which was read as follows :—
The Committee have considered the Bill to them referred, and report the same
without amendment.
M
138 14TH FEBRUARY. 1877.
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 116), intituled "An Act to amend an Act respecting Municipal Institutions
in the Province of Ontario." — Mr. Wills.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Friday next.
The following Bills were severally read the third time, and passed : —
Bill (No. 30), To incorporate Alma College, at St. Thomas.
Bill (No. 73), To amend the Act respecting Dentistry.
Bill (No. 94), To amend the Assessment Act of 1869.
The House resolved itself into a Committee severally to consider the following
Bills :—
Bill (No. 44), To erect the Town of Brantford into a City, under the name of the
City of Brantford.
Bill (No. 45), To enable the Synod of Niagara to sell certain lands in Arthur.
Bill (No. 7), To extend and define the limits of the Town of Orillia.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the several Bills with certain amendments.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bills reported be severally read the third time To-morrow.
The Honourable Mr. Wood moved, seconded by the Honourable Attorney-General
Mowat,
That this House do forthwith resolve itself into a Committee to consider certain
proposed Eesolutions relative to the expenses of the Agriculture and Arts Act.
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, by command of the Lieutenant-Governor,
acquainted the House that the Lieutenant-Governor, having been informed of the subject
matter of the proposed Eesolutions, recommended the same to the consideration of the
House.
Ordered, That the House do forthwith resolve itself into a Committee to consider
the Resolutions.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported,
That the Committee had come to several Resolutions.
Ordered, That the Eeport be received forthwith.
Mr. Clarke (Wellington], from the Committee, reported the Eesolutions which were
read as follow : —
Resolved, That the Ontario Society of Arts, so long as the number of its bonafide
members is not less than twenty-five, shall be entitled to receive from unappropriated moneys
in the hands of the Treasurer of this Province, a sum of not less than five hundred dollars in
any one year.
Resolved, That the Fruit Growers' Association, so long as the number of its bonafide
members is not less than fifty, and so long as it complies with the provisions of the Act, shall
be entitled to receive from unappropriated moneys in the hands of the Treasurer of the Pro-
vince, a sum not exceeding one thousand dollars in any one year, provided that the Secretary
of the Association shall, on or before the first day of September in each year, transmit to
the Commissioner of Agriculture an affidavit, which may be sworn to before any Justice of
the Peace, stating the number of members who have paid their subscriptions for the current
year, and the total amount of such subscriptions.
Resolved, That any Mechanics' Institute which shall, during four months in any year, have
in operation classes in which instruction is given by competent teachers in Writing, English
Grammar, Arithmetic, Book-keeping, Mensuration, Freehand, Architectural and Mechanical
Drawing, or any four of these subjects, shall be entitled to fifty dollars (additional to an an-
nual grant of four hundred dollars) for each fifty pupils over and above two hundred.
40 Vic. 14TH FEBRUARY. 139
Resolved, That the Entomological Society, so long as the number of its bona Remem-
bers is not less than fifty, shall be entitled to receive from unappropriated moneys in the
hands of the Treasurer of this Province, a sum not to exceed seven hundred and fifty
dollars in any one year, on the like conditions as the Fruit Growers' Association of
Ontario.
Resolved, That each Dairyman's Association, so long as the number of its bona fide
members is not less than one hundred, shall be entitled to receive from unappropriated
moneys in the hands of the Treasurer of this Province, a sum not to exceed one thousand
dollars in any one year, on the like conditions as the Fruit Growers' Association of
Ontario.
The Resolutions, having been read the second time were agreed to ; and referred to
the Committee of the Whole House on Bill (No. 80), For the encouragement of Agricul-
ture, Horticulture, Arts and Manufactures.
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 80), For the
encouragement of Agriculture, Horticulture, Arts and Manufactures ; and, after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the C hair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington) reported,
That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 103), To give the
right of voting to Farmer's Sons in certain cases ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee
had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the recond time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 77), To extend the Voters' Lists Act to Municipal Elections.
Eeferred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 69), Respecting the Revised Statutes for Ontario.
Referred to a Select Committee composed as follows : — The Honourable Messieurs
Mowat, Cameron, Fraser, Wood, McDougall, Currie ; and Messieurs Bethune, Lander, Boulter,
Clarke (Norfolk), Deacon, Deroche, Ferris, Gibson, Hardy, Hodgins, Meredith, Merrick, Miller,
Patterson, (Essex), Ross, Scott, Sinclair, and Wilson.
Bill (No. Ill), To provide for certain amendments and additions to the Statutes of the
Province as Consolidated by the Commissioners appointed for that purpose.
Referred to the same Select Committee to whom was referred Bill (No. 69), Respecting
the Revised Statutes for Ontario.
Bill (No. 112), To provide for certain amendments to the Law.
Referred to the same Select Committee to whom was referred Bill (No. 69), Respecting
the Revised Statutes for Ontario.
Bill (No. 110), Respecting the Administration of Estates of Intestates dying without
known relatives in Ontario.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House to-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 19), Respecting the
Stratford and Huron Railway ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed
the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), reported, That the Committee had directed him
to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
140
1-lTii FEBRUARY.
1877.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House : —
Return, in obedience to an Order of the House, of all Licenses for the Sale of Spiri-
tuous or Fermented Liquors in the Province during the years 1875 and 1876, such Return
to shew the names and addresses of all persons so licensed, whether brewers, wholesale
dealers, shop-keepers, tavern keepers, or saloon keepers, and distinguishing the nature of
the License. (Sessional Papers No. 42).
The House, according to Order, proceeded to take into further consideration, the
Resolutions reported from the Committee of Supply, on Tuesday last, the consideration
whereof had been postponed.
The Eleventh Resolution, respecting Miscellaneous Expenditure, having been again
read,
Mr. Merrick moved, seconded by Mr. Boulter,
That the items for the salary of the Inspector of Division Courts, one thousand four
hundred dollars, and for travelling expenses, six hundred and fifty dollars, be struck out.
The Amendment, having been pub, was lost on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Baker,
Barr,
Bell,
Boulter,
Broder,
Brown,
Cameron,
Code,
Courts, .
Appleby,
Ballantyne,
Baxter,
Bishop,
Bonfield,
Chisholm,
Clarke (Norfolk),
Creighton,
Currie,
Deacon,
Deroche,
Grange,
Harkin,
Kean,
Lander,
Long,
Finlayson,
Flesher,
Fraser,
Gibson,
Graham,
Grant,
Hardy,
McDougall (Middle-Patterson (Essex),
sex), Preston,
Macdougall(Simcoe)Richardson,
McGowan,
McRae,
Merrick,
Monk,
Mostyn,
0' Sullivan,
Rosevear,
Scott,
Tooley,
Wigle,
Wills— 34.
NAYS.
Messieurs.
Clarke ( Wellington),Hargraft,
Cole, Hay,
Crooks, Hodgins,
Dawson, Hunter,
Ferris,
Lane,
Lyon,
MeCraney,
McMahon,
Mas^ie,
Miller,
Mowat,
O'Donoghue,
Patterson (York),
Paxton,
Robinson,
Sexton,
Sinclair,
Snetsinger,
Springer,
Striker,
Watterworth,
Widdifield,
Williams,
Wilson,
Wood 45.
The Eleventh Resolution was then agreed to.
The Eighteenth Resolution, respecting Criminal Justice, having been again read, was
agreed to.
The Thirty-fifth Resolution, respecting the Asylum for the Insane at Toronto, having
been again read, was agreed to.
The Forty-first Resolution, respecting the Central Prison, having been again read, was
agreed to.
The Forty-fourth Resolution, respecting the School of Agriculture, having been again
read, was agreed to.
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141
The Forty-eighth Resolution, respecting Hospitals and Charities, having been again
read, was agreed to.
The Forty-ninth Resolution, respecting Miscellaneous Expenditure, having been again
read, was agreed to.
The Fiftieth Resolution, respecting Unforeseen and Unprovided Expenses, having
been again read,
The Honourable Mr. McDougall moved, seconded by the Honourable Mr. Cameron,
That the sum be reduced to Twenty thousand dollars, so that the large sum of Fifty
thousand dollars may not be left to be expended at the sole discretion of the Executive
Government.
Mr. Hodgins moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Bethune —
That all the words in the motion after " That " be struck out, and the following substi-
tuted therefor, " this House is of opinion that the experience of former Governments of this
Prov uce shows that the sum now to be granted is required by the Public Service, and that
the said Resolution be concurred in."
And objection having jbeen taken by the Honourable Mr. Cameron to the amendj
ment as merely affirming the original Motion ; Mr. Speaker, referring to a case which
occurred in 1873, where, upon a motion for the third reading of a Bill, an amendment
to an amendment was moved concluding with the words " and that the Bill be now read
a third time," decided that if such an amendment were carried it would preclude all
further amendment. Such a motion differed in no way from the " previous question,"
and even that motion could not be moved upon an amendment, Mr. Cameron's objection
must therefore prevail.
The Amendment, having been put, was lost on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Baker,
Barr,
Bell,
Boulter,
Broder,
Broivn,
Code,
Applcby,
Ballantyne,
Baxter,
Bethune,
Bishop,
Bonfield,
Chisholm,
Clarke (Norfolk],
Coutts,
Creighton,
Deacon,
Flesher,
Harkin,
Kean,
Lander,
Long,
Deroche,
Ferris,
Finlayson,
Eraser,
Gibson,
Graham,
Grange,
Grant,
McDougall (Mid- Preston,
dlesex), Richardson,
McDougall (Simcoe),Rosevear,
McRae, Scott,
Merrick, Tooley,
Monk, Wigle,
Mostyn, Wills— 30.
Patterson (Essex),
NAYS.
Messieurs
Clarke ( Wellington}, Hardy,
Cole, Hargraft,
Crooks, Say,
Currie, Hodgins,
Dawson,
Hunter,
Lane,
Lyon,
McCraney,
McGowan,
McMahon,
Ma^ie,
Miller,
Mowat,
O'Donoghue,
Pardee,
Paxton,
Robinson,
Ross,
Sexton,
Sinclair,
Snetsinger,
Springer,
Striker,
Watterworth,
Widdifield,
William*,
Wilson,
Wood— 4^9.
The Fiftieth Resolution was then agreed to.
The House then adjourned at 11.15 P.M.
14 15TH FEBRUARY. 1877.
Thursday, 15th February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petition was brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. Wilson— The Petition of the County Council of Elgin.
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 117), intituled "An Act to amend the Act respecting Master and Servant."
— Mr. 0 Donoghue.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
The following Bills were severally read the third time, and passed : —
Bill (No. 29), To incorporate the Metropolitan Street Railway Company of Toronto.
Bill (No. 7), To extend and define the limits of the Town of Orillia.
Bill (No. 80), For the encouragement of Agriculture, Horticulture, Arts and Manu-
factures.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill No. (103), To give the right of
voting to Farmer's Sons in certain cases, having been read,
The Honourable Mr. Fraser moved,
That the Bill be now read the third time.
The Honourable Mr. Cameron moved in amendment, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. McDougall,
That all the words in the motion after "That " be struck out and the following sub-
tituted therefor, " while farmers sons, from their intelligence, and personal qualifications,
are as well entitled to the elective franchise as any other class not possessing the requisite
property or income qualifications, still to confer upon them this privilege, solely in right of
their father's property, and without the qualification that would entitle the sons of any
other of Her Majesty's subjects to right of voting, would be to confer special privileges
upon them and to discriminate between different classes of the people contrary to the
genius and spirit of our Constitution, and in derogation of the equal rights of all."
The Honourable Mr Crooks raised the question of order, and urged that no amend-
ment could be moved to the third reading of a Bill, except an amendment relating to
time. The House had ordered the Bill to be read the third to-day, and no question touch-
ing the merits of the Bill could now be raised.
The Speaker referred to M ay, p. 487, and decided^ That it is competent for any
Member, who desires to place on record any special reasons for not agreeing to the second
or third reading of a Bill, to move as an amendment to the question a resolution decla-
ratory of some principle adverse to or differing from the principle of the Bill, or other-
wise opposed to its progress. There are numerous modern instances of such amendments.
The amendment is therefore in order.
And the House having continued to sit until Twelve of the Clock Midnight.
FRIDAY, 16th February, 1877.
The Amendment, having been put, was lost on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Boulter, Cameron, Creighton,
Burr, Broder, Code, Deacon,,
Bell, isro'um, Coutts, Flesher,
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Grange, Long,
Merrick, Richardson,
Harbin, McDougall (Simcoe\Monk, Soott,
Kean, McGowan,
Patterson (Essex), Wills— -27.
Lander, McRae,
Preston^
NATS.
Messieurs
Appleby, Ferris,
McCraney, Rosevear,
Baxter, Finlayson,
McDougall (Mid- Ross,
Bethune. Fraser,
dlesex), Sexton,
Bishop, Gibson,
McMahon, Sinclair,
Bonfield, Graham,
Massie, Snetsinger,
Chisholm, Grant,
Miller, Springer,
Clarke (Norfolk), Hardy,
Mostyn, Striker,
Clarke ( Wellington), ffargraft,
Mowat, Watterworth,
Cole, Hay,
O'Donoghue, Widdifield,
Crooks, Hodgins,
Pardee, Wigle,
Currie, Hunter,
Patterson (York}, Williams,
Dawson, Lane,
Paxton, Wilson,
Deroche, Lyon,
Robinson, Wood — 51.
The original Motion, having been then put, was carried on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Appleby,
Ferris,
McCraney,
Rosevear,
Baxter,
Finlayson,
McDougall (Mid-
Ross,
Bethune,
Fraser,
dlesex),
Sexton,
Bishop,
G-ibson,
McMahon,
Sinclair,
Bonfield,
Graham,
Massie,
Snetsinger,
Brown,
Grant,
Miller,
Springer,
Chisholm,
Hardy,
Mostyn,
Striker,
Clarke (Norfolk),
Harqraft,
Mowat,
Watterworth,
Clarke (Wellington\Hay,
O'Donoghue,
Widdifield,
Cole,
Hodgins,
Pardee,
Wigle,
Crooks,
Hunter,
Patterson ( York),
"W ittiams,
Dawson,
Lane,
Paxton,
Wilson,
Deroche,
Lyon,
Robinson,
Wood.— 51.
NAYS.
Messieurs
Baker,
Coutts,
Kean,
Monk,
Barr,
Creighton,
Lauder,
Patterson,
Bell,
Currie,
Long,
Preston,
Boulter,
Decaon,
McDougall(Simcoe),Richardson,
Broder,
Flesher,
McGowan,
Scott.
Cameron,
Grange,
McRae,
Wills.— 27.
Code,
Harkin,
Merrick,
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House then adjourned at 12.50 A.M.
144 Ifira FEBRUARY. 1877.
Friday, 16th February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P. M
The following Petition was brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. Grant — The Petition of the Township Council of Kenyan.
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of the North Oxford Agricultural Society, praying for certain amendments to the
Agriculture and Arts Act.
Of the County Council of Simcoe, praying that it may be made a misdemeanor to
treat or to be treated in bar-rooms.
Of Peter Gerrie and others ; also, of Henry Webster and others, all of West Garafram,
respecting the Credit Valley Railway.
Mr, Clarice (Wellington), from the Standing Committee to whom was referred the
Public Accounts, presented their Third Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee have taken evidence as to the system followed in obtaining supplies
for the maintenance of the Public Institutions of the Province, and submit it herewith
for the consideration of the Legislature.
The Committee have also taken evidence relative to the mode of auditing the Ac*
counts of County Treasurers for the Administration of Criminal Justice, and present itr
together with the Minutes of Proceedings to this date. (Appendix No. 1.)
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 118), intituled "An Act respecting Municipal Institutions." — Mr. Paxton.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Tuesday next.
The Order of the Day for the Third Reading of Bill (No. 83), To amend the Act
respecting the sale of Fermented and Spirituous Liquors, having been read,
On motion of the Honourable Mr. Crooks.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and the Bill be forthwith referred to a
Committee of the Whole House with instructions to amend the same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time
spent therein Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported,
That the Committee had amended the Bill as instructed.
The Honourable Mr. Crooks, then moved,
That the Bill be now read the third time.
Mr. Harkin moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Preston,
That all the words in the motion after " That " be struck out, and the following
inserted in lieu thereof : — " the Bill be not now read the third time, but be recommitted
to a Committee of the Whole House with instructions so to amend the Bill as to enable
the Council of every Municipality to appoint its own Inspector or Inspectors ; to deter-
mine his or their remuneration ; to decide to whom licenses shall be granted in their
respective Municipalities, having regard to the limitations imposed by the Act 39 Vic.
cap. 26 ; and to dispense with the services of the Commissioners and Inspectors now
appointed under said Act by His Honour in Council."
Mr. Merrick moved in amendment to the Amendment, seconded by Mr. Tooley,
That all the words after "remuneration" in the Amendment be struck out.
And the Amendment to the Amendment, haying been put, was lost on the following,
division : —
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145
YEAS.
Messieurs
Baker,
Code,
Long,
Preston,
Barr,
Coutts,
McDougall
(Mid- Rosevear,
Bell,
Deacon,
dlesex)
Tooley,
Boulter,
Mesher,
Merrick,
Wigle—lS.
Cameron,
Harkin,
O'Sullivan,
NAYS.
Messieurs
Appleby,
Ballantyne,
Creighton,
Dawson,
McCraney,
McMahon,
Robinson,
Ross,
Baxter,
Deroche,
Massie,
Sinclair,
Bethune,
Fraser,
Miller,
Springer,
Bishop,
Gibson,
Mostyn,
Striker,
Bonfield,
Graham,
Mowat,
Watterworth,
Chisholm,
Grant,
O'Donoghue,
Widdifield,
Clarke (Norfolk),
Hardy,
Pardee,
Williams,
Clarke ( Wellington), Hay,
Paxton,
Wills,
Cole,
Hunter,
Richardson,
Wood— 40.
Mr. Creighton then moved in amendment to the Amendment, seconded by Mr. JBarr,
That all the words after " Municipality " be struck out, and the following inserted
in lieu thereof: — " to decide to whom Licenses shall be granted in their respective Muni-
cipalities, having regard to the limitations imposed by the Act 39 Vic. cap. 26.
And the Amendment to the Amendment, having been put, was lost on the following
division: —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Barr,
Bell,
Creighton,
Deacon,
Harkin,
McGowan,
Preston,
Rosevear,
Scott— 9.
NAYS.
Messieurs
Appleby,
Ballantyne,
Baxter,
Bethune,
Bishop,
Bon/ield,
Boulter,
Broder,
Cameron,
Chisholm,
Clarke (Norfolk),
Clarke ( Wellington),
Cole,
Coutts,
Crooks,
Dawson,
Deroche,
Ferris,
Flesher,
Fraser,
Gibson,
Graham,
Grange,
Grant,
Hardy,
Hargraft,
Hay,
Hodgins,
Hunter,
Lane,
Long,
Lyon, Paxton,
McCraney, Richardson,
McDougall (Mid- Robinson,
dlesex), Ross,
McDougall (Simcoe),Sinclair,
McMahon,
McRae,
Massie,
Merrick,
Miller,
Mostyn,
Mowat,
O'Donoghue,
Pardee,
Springer,
Striker,
Tooley,
Watterworth,
Widdifield,
Wigle,
Williams,
Wills,
Wilson,
Patterson (Essex), Wood— 60.
146 16TH FEBRUARY. 1877,
The Amendment, having been then put, was lost on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Barr, Harkin,
McGowan, Scott — 7.
Coutts, Long,
Preston,
NAYS.
Messieurs
Appleby, Dawson,
Ballantyne, Deacon,
Lyon, Richardson,
McCraney, Robinson,
Baxter, Deroche,
McDougall (Mid- Rosevear,
Bell, Ferris,
dlesex.) Ross,
Bethune, Flesker,
McDougall(Simcoe),Sinclair,
Bishop, Fraser,
McMahon, Springer,
Bonfield, Gibson,
McRae, Striker,
Boulter, Graham,
Massie, Tooley,
Broder, Grange,
Merrick, Watterworth,
Cameron, Grant,
Miller, Widdifield,
Chisholm, Hardy,
Mostyn, Wigle,
Clarke (Norfolk), Hargraft,
Mowat, Williams,
Clarke (Wellington), Hay,
Cole, Hodgins,
O'Donoghue, Wills,
Pardee, Wilson,
Creighton, Hunter,
Patterson. (Essex), Wood — 62.
Crooks, Lane,
Paxton,
The original Motion, having been then put, was carried, and the Bill was read the
third time, and passed.
The following Bill was read the third time, and passed : —
Bill (No. 45), To enable the Synod of Niagara to sell certain lands in Arthur.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
Annual Report of the Normal, Model, High and Public Schools of Ontario for the
1875, with Appendices. (/Sessional Papers, No. 3.)
Also : Special Report on the Ontario Educational Exhibit, and the Educational Fea-
year 1875, with Appendices. (Sessional Papers, No. 3.)
: Special Re
tures of the International Exhibition at Philadelphia, 1876. (/Sessional Papers, No. 44.)
Also : Annual Report of the Council of University College, Toronto, for the year
ended December 31st, 1876. (Sessional Papers, No. 43.)
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat delivered to Mr. Speaker a Message from
the Lieutenant-Governor, signed by himself, and the Message was read by Mr. Speaker,
and is as follows : —
D. A. MACDONALD :
The Lieutenant-Governor transmits Estimates of certain further sums required to
complete the Service of the Province for 1877, and to make good certain expenditure
for the year 1876.
SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES $91,074 83
(Sessional Papers, No. 8.)
Ordered, That the Message of the Lieutenant-Governor, together with the Supple-
mentary Estimates, be referred to the Committee of Supply.
40 Vic. 16TH AND 19TH FEBRUARY. 147
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 77), To extend the
Voters' Lists Act to Municipal Elections ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington) reported, That the Committee had directed
him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 110), Respecting the
Administration of Estates of Intestates dying without known relatives in Ontario ; and,
after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wel-
lington) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any
amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The following Bill was read the second time : —
Bill (No. 115), For establishing a Superannuation and Benefit Fund for Police in
Cities.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
The House then adjourned at 10.45 P.M.
Monday, 19th February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P. M.
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of the County Council of Elgin, praying that certain kinds of property may be
Exempt from taxation.
Of the Township Council of Kenyon, praying that an Act may pass to confirm certain
Surveys in the Township of Kenyan.
The following Bills were severally read the third time, arid passed : —
Bill (No 32), For the incorporation of the Town of Belleville as a City, and for the
Consolidation of the Debt thereof.
Bill (No. 57), To enable the Corporation of Cobourg to aid certain manufacturing es-
lishments.
The Order of the Day for the Third Reading of Bill (No. 44,) To erect the Town of
Brantford into a City, under the name of the City of Brantford, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith referred to a
Committee of the Whole House, with instructions to amend the same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time
spent therein, Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had amended the
Bill as instructed.
The Bill was then read the third time.
Ordered, That the Bill do now pass, and be intituled " An Act to incorporate the
City of Brantford.
The Order of the Day for the Third Reading of Bill (No. 39), To incorporate the
People's Gas Company, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith referred to a
Committee of the Whole House.
148 19TH FEBRUARY. 1877
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time
spent therein, Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported the Bill with certain Amendments.
Ordered, that the Amendments be considered To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the Third Reading of BUI (No. 56), respecting the City of
Toronto, the Toronto Water Works, and other matters having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith referred to a
Committee of the Whole House.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time
spent therein, Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), reported, That the Committee had directed him to
report the Bill with certain Amendments.
Ordered. That the Amendments be considered To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the Third Reading of Bill (No. 110), Respecting the Admin-
istration of Estates of Intestates dying without known relations in Ontario, having been
read,
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat moved,
That the Bill be now read the third time.
The Honourable Mr. Cameron moved in amendment, seconded by the Honourable Mr,
McDougall,
That all the words in the motion after " That " be struck out, and the following in-
serted in lieu thereof, " the Bill be not now read the third time, but be referred back to a
Committee of the Whole House with instructions to amend the same by striking out all
the words between the word " relatives " in the second line of the first clause, and the
word " his " in the fourth line of the said clause, so as not to give the Government the
right to interfere with property of any one dying intestate and leaving known relatives
or next of kin."
And the Amendment, having been put, was lost on the following division : —
YEAS :
Messieurs
Bell, Deacon, MeRae, Preston,
Boulter, Flesher, Merrick, Richardson,
Broder, Grange, Monk, Rosevear,
Cameron, Kean, Mostyn, Scott,
Code, McDougall (Simcoe),0' Sullivan, Wigle,
Coutts, McMahon, Patterson (Essex), Wills. — 25.
Creighton,
NAYS :
Messieurs
Appleby, Daiuson, Hodgins, Robinson,
Ballantyne, Deroche, Hunter. Ross.
Baxter, Ferris, Lane, Sexton,
Bethune, Fraser, Lyon, Sinclair,
Bishop, Gibson, McCraney, Springer,
Bonfield, Graham, Massie, Striker,
Chisholm, Grant, Miller, Widdifield,
Clarke (Norfolk), Hardy, Mowat, Williams,
Clarke ( Wellington), Hargraft, Pardee, Wilson,
Cole, Harkin. Patterson (York), Wood. — 43.
Crooks, Hay, Paxton,
The original Motion, having been then put, was carried ; and the Bill was read thff
third time, and passed.
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149
The Order of the Day for the House to resolve itself into a Committee on Bill (No.
53), Respecting the Toronto Street Railway Company, having been read,
The Honourable Mr. Cameron moved,
That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair.
The Honourable Mr. Fraser took objection to the Bill as containing conditions in ex-
cess of the original notices, and asked Mr. Speaker to refer the Bill back to the Committee
on Standing Orders for the purpose of reporting as to the sufficiency of the notice.
Mr. Speaker doubted whether he had power to make an arbitrary order of that sort.
33ut even if his power were undoubted, he would hesitate to exercise it at this late period
<of the Session, unless forced upon him by clear and distinct authority. He should prefer
to follow the course adopted in a case which is reported in the Journals of Canada, 1865,
page 242 ; where upon a similar objection being taken, it was by direction of the Speaker
moved as an amendment, That the Bill be referred back to the Committee on Standing
Orders, with instructions to report, &c. That is also the course adopted in many other
.cases reported in the Journals. In this way the matter is fully discussed and the House
lias no difficulty in arriving at an intelligent decision. It is open to any member to make
va similar motion in the present case by way of amendment to the motion which has been
put from the Chair.
The Honourable Mr. Fraser then moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Deacon,
That all after the word " That " in the motion be struck out, and the following in-
serted in lieu thereof: — " the Bill be referred back to the Committee on Standing Orders,
to report as to the propriety of the suspension of Rule No. 53, in respect to section one of
.the proposed Bill."
The Amendment, having been put, was lost on the following division: —
YEAS:
Messieurs
Bonfield, Fraser,
Courts, Grange,
Dawson, Grant,
Deacon, Harkin,
McMalton,
O'Donoghue,
O'Sttllivan,
Patterson (Essex),
Paxton,
Rosevear,
Wigle—15.
NAYS:
Messieurs
Lyon, Richardson,
McCraney, Robinson,
McDougall (Middle- Ross,
sex), Scott,
Macdo wgall (Simeoe)Sext on,
jLppleby, Creighton,
Baker, Crooks,
.Ballantyne, Deroche,
Baxter, Ferris,
Bell, Flesher,
Bethune, Gibson,
Bishop, Graham,
Boulter, Hardy,
Broder, Hargraft,
>Can.Tveron> Say,
Chisholm, Hodgins,
^Clarke (Norfolk), Hunter,
Clarke ( Wellington), Kean,
'Code, Lane,
Cole,
The original Motion, having been then put, was carried ; and the House resolved
itself into the Committee ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the
Chair ; and Mr. Clarke ( Wellington) reported, That the Committee had directed him to
report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration To-morrow.
McRae,
Massie,
Merrick,
Miller,
Monk,
Mostyn,
Pardee,
Patterson ( York),
Preston,
Sinclair,
Springer,
Striker,
Wdtterworth,
Widdifield,
Williams,
Wills,
Wilson,
Wood— 56.
150 19TH FEBRUARY. 1877,
The Order of the Day for the Second Reading of Bill (No. 51), To incorporate the
Home Savings and Loan Company, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
Ordered, That the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on Bill (No. 51),
Home Savings and Loan Company.
On motion of the Honourable Mr. Fraser, seconded by the Honourable Mr. Wood,
Resolved, That this House will, To-morrow, resolve itself into a Committee to con-
sider a certain proposed Resolution respecting the Rockwood Asylum.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Crooks,
Resolved, That this House will, To-morrow, resolve itself into a Committee to
consider a certain proposed Resolution relative to the expenses of the defaults of the late
Judge Wilson, of Norfolk.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House : —
Return, in obedience to an Order of the House, respecting Timber Licenses, show-
ing the names of the several licensees, the number of acres respectively held by each
licensee, the amount of license dues now in arrears by said licensees, if any • all other
dues or fees now in arrear or on account of timber, or saw-logs, or other materials
taken from said land by each of said licensees ; and also showing the amounts
respectively due on the 31st of December, 1875 ; the amounts respectively paid
in on account of said license dues, £c., during the year 1876 ; the nature and amount of
the security taken for dues &c., or arrearages, if any. (Sessional Papers, No. 45.)
Also : — Return, in obedience to an Order of the House, in respect to cases under the
Act 32 and 33, Vic., Chap. 35 ; for the more speedy trial of Felonies and Misdemeanours
from the several Counties in Ontario for the year 1876. (Sessional Papers, No. 46).
Also : — By command of the Lieutenant-Governor : — Return of Correspondence and
Papers relating to the following Railways : — Huron and Quebec Railway ; Prince Arthur's
Landing and Kaministiquia Railway ; Toronto, Grey and Bruce Railway ; North Simcoe
Railway ; Credit Valley Railway ; Kingston and Pembroke Railway ; London, Huron and
Bruce Railway ; Norfolk Railway ; Whitby and Port Perry Extension Railway ; Prince
Edward County Railway ; Stratford and Huron Railway ; Victoria Railway ; and Welling-
ton, Grey and Bruce Railway. (Sessional Papers, No. 41.)
Also : — Return as to Timber Dues in Muskoka and Parry Sound Districts. (^Ses-
sional Papers, No. 47).
Mr. Clarke (Norfolk) moved, seconded by Mr. Bell,
That the interests of society at large require that stringent means be used to repress
vice and crime of every description, especially in its favourite haunts among the pauper
population of Towns and Cities, therefore be it resolved, That a Committee composed of
the Honourable Messieurs Mowat and Cameron, and Messieurs Hodgins, Bell, Miller,
Lauder, and the mover, be appointed to examine into the condition of the pauper poor of
this City, with power to send for persons and papers, with a view to such Legislative
action as may be deemed applicable to the case.
And, a Debate having arisen, the Motion was, with leave of the House, withdrawn.
Mr. Graliam moved, seconded by Mr. Ross,
That an humble Address be presented to the Lieutenant-Governor, praying that he
will cause to be laid before this House, Copies of all Correspondence between the Govern-
ment and the manufacturers of Ontario, relative to the appointment of a Commissioner to
represent the Province at the Australian Exhibition.
And, a Debate having arisen, the Motion was, with leave of the House, withdrawn.
40 Vic. 19TH AND 20TH FEBRUARY. 151
Mr. Patterson (Essex) moved, seconded by Mr. Wigle,
That a Select Committee be appointed to enquire respecting the claims of Assumption
College, Sandwich, to certain moneys heretofore voted to said College by the Legislature
of Ontario.
And, a Debate having arisen, the Motion was, with leave of the House, withdrawn.
On motion of Mr. Creighton, seconded by Mr. Broder,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return of all estates, moneys, and
properties, which have come to the hands of the Government, or of the Inspector of
Asylums and Prisons belonging to the inmates of the various Asylums of the Province ;
giving names of parties, and also dates of receipts of moneys in detail ; showing also,
where such moneys are deposited, and to whose credit.
The House having continued to sit until twelve of the clock, midnight.
TUESDAY, 20th February, 1877.
On motion of the Honourable Mr. Cameron, seconded by Mr. Lander,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return of the Coroner's inquisition,
evidence given thereon, and finding of the jury in the case of James STcye, or Schyler, who
died in the Central Prison, Toronto, on or about the 26th July, 1875 ; also, of the Coroner's
inquisitions, evidence given thereon, and finding of the jury in the cases of all other pri-
soners who have died in the Central Prison, together with any reports of the Prison Sur-
geon thereon.
The House then adjourned at 1.05 A.M.
Tuesday, 20th Februray, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Mr. McDougall — The Petition of the Orange Lodge of Tecumseh.
By Mr. Hay — The Petition of the Towcship Council of Wallace.
By Mr. Meredith — The Petition of William Mortimer and others, of London.
By Mr. M&rrick — The Petition of Orange Lodge No. 556 ; also the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 1,990 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 852 ; also the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 661 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,018 ; also the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 812 ; also the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 645 ; also the Petition of Orange
Lodge No. 1,258 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge ^o. 615 ; also, the Petition of
Orange Lodge No. 965 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 988 ; also, the Petition
of Orange Lodge No. 1,237; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,179; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 731 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 19 ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,362 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 1,152 ; also,
the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 922 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 633 ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 777 ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No.
1,386 . also, the Petition of Orange Lodge No. 787 ; also, two Petitions of Orange Lodges,
all of Western Ontario ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Mount Forest ; also, the
Petition of Orange Lodge of Wentworth ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Barton ;
also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of Moore ; also, the Petition of Orange Lodge of South
Wellington.
By Mr. Sexton — The united Petition of the City of Hamilton and the County of
Wentworth.
152 20TH FEBRUARY. 1877.
The following Bill was introduced, and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 119), intituled "An Act to provide for the erection of a Court House in
the City of Hamilton." — Mr. Sexton.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 19), Respecting the Stratford
and Huron Railway Company, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith referred
back to a Committee of the Whole House, with instructions to amend the same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee, and after some time spent
therein, Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as
instructed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and pa ssed.
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 93), To
amend the several Acts respecting the Education Department, Public and High Schools,
and the University of Toronto ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed
the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had made some
progress, and directed him to ask leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat delivered to Mr. Speaker a Message from
the Lieuten ant-Governor, signed by himself, and the Message was read by Mr. Speaker,
and is as follows : —
D. A. MACDONALD :
The Lieutenant-Governor transmits further Estimates of certain sums required to
complete the Service of the Province for 1877.
SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES.
SCHOOL OF AGRICULTURE, GUELPH.
Further amount required for erection of Cheese Factory in connection with
proposed Dairy $3,000 00
— (Sessional Papers, No. 8.)
Ordered, That the Message of the Lieutenant-Governor, together with the Supple-
mentary Estimates, be referred to the Committee of Supply.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 88), To amend the
Assessment Act of 1869 ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the
Chair ; and Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), reported, That the Committee had directed him to re-
port the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the amendments be taken into consideration To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 95), To 'amend the
Act respecting Line Fences ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the
Chair ; and Mr. Clarke ( Wellington) reported, That the Committee had directed him to re-
port the Bill with certain Amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
40 Vic.
20TH FEBRUARY.
153
The Order of the Day for the House to resolve itself into a Commit te to consider Bill
(No 81), To facilitate the formation of Joint Stock Companies for the manufacturing of
Butter, Cheese and other Dairy products, having been read,
Mr. Wills moved, That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair.
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat moved in amendment, seconded by the
Honourable Mr. Wood, That all the words in the motion after " That " be struck out, and
the following inserted in lieu thereof : " the House do not now go into Committee on the
Bill, but that the same be referred to a Committee of the Whole House this day six months."
And the Amendment, having been put, was carried on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Baker,
Ballantyne,
Baxter,
Bishop,
Bonfield,
Chisholm,
Clark* (Norfolk),
Dawson,
Deroche,
Finlayson,
Eraser,
Gil>son,
Graham,
Hardy,
Clarke (Wellington), Har graft,
Cole, Hay,
Crooks, Hodgins,
Currie, Hunter,
Lane,
Lyon,
McCraney,
McMahon,
Massie,
Miller,
Monk,
Mostyn,
Mowat,
O'Donoghue,
Richardson,
Ross,
Sexton,
Sinclair,
Striker,
Watterworth,
Widdifield,
Williams,
Wilson
Wood.— 42.
NAYS.
Messieurs
Barr,
Bell,
Boulter,
Broder,
Cameron,
Code,
Coutts,
Creighton,
Deacon,
Ferris,
Flesher,
Harkin,
Long,
McDougall (Mid- Patterson (Essex),
dlesex), Preston,
McDougall (Simcoe),Rosevear,
McGowan, Scott,
Meredith, Tooley,
Merrick, Wigle,
0' Sullivan, Wills.— -27.
Ordered, That Bill (No 81), To facilitate the formation of Joint Stock Companies for
the manufacturing of Butter, Cheese and other Dairy products, be referred to a Committee
of the Whole House this day six months.
The Order of the day for the second reading of Bill (No. 75), To extend the Franchise
for Municipal purposes, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The House then adjourned at 11.50 P.M.
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r
Wednesday, 21st February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By the Honourable Mr. Cameron — The Petition of James Mojfatt and others, of
Toronto.
By the Honourable Mr. Currie — The Petition of the Electoral Division Agricultural
Society of the County of Lincoln.
By Mr. Bell — The Petition of Samuel Beatty and others, of Toronto.
By Mr. McGowan — The Petition si John Thomas Lacy of Palmerston.
Mr. Clarke (Wellington), from the Committee on Printing, presented their Fourth
Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee recommend that the following documents be printed : —
Correspondence regarding money received by the late Judge Wilson. (Sessional
Papers, No. 39).
Annual Report of the Normal, Model, High and Public Schools of Ontario for 1875.
(Sessional Papers, No. 3).
Correspondence and Papers relating to the various Railways of Ontario. (Sessional
Papers, No. 41).
Return relating to Timber-dues in the Districts of Muskoka and Parry Sound. (Ses-
sional Papers, No. 47).
Return relating to Timber Licenses. (Sessional Papers, No. 45).
Return relating to trials for Felonies and Misdemeanours for 1876. (Sessional
Papers, No. 46).
Special Report on the Ontario Educational Exhibition at Philadelphia. (Sessional
Papers, No. 44).
The Committee recommend that the following documents be not printed :
Return of all Licenses granted for the manufacture or sale of Spirituous Liquors for
1875 and 1876— (Sessional Papers No. 42).
Annual Report of the Council of University College, Toronto, for 1876. (Sessional
Papers, No. 43).
The Committee also recommend that six thousand copies of the Education Act,
be printed in pamphlet form, and that one copy be sent to every School Board in Ontario,
through the Education Department ; also, that five copies of the Act be sent to every Mem-
ber of the House.
The Committee further recommend that two thousand copies of the License Act be
printed separately in pamphlet form, and that five copies be sent to every Board of License
Commissioners in Ontario, through the License Branch Department j also, that five copies
be sent to every member of the House.
The Committee further recommend that the bound volumes of Ontario Statutes now
in the custody of the Queen's Printer, be distributed equally among the members of the
House, except fifty copies of each Session.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time :
Bill (No. 120), intituled " An Act to amend the Temperance Act of 1864."— The
Honourable Attorney-General Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 121), intituled " An Act to apply the Municipal Law to certain Townships
in the District of Nipissing." — The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
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Bill (No. 122), intituled "An Act to amend the Acts relating to Election of Mem-
bers of the Legislative Assembly." — The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat,
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The Amendments made in Committee on Bill (No. 39), To incorporate the People's
Gas Company, having been read the second time, were concurred in.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The Amendments made in Committee on Bill (No. 53), Respecting the Toronto
Street Railway Company, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The following Bill was read the third time, and passed : —
Bill (No. 95), To amend the Act respecting Line Fences.
The following Bill was read the second time : —
Bill (No. 119), To provide for the erection of a Court House in the City of Hamilton.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for Concurrence in Amendments made in Committee on Bill
(No. 56), Respecting the City of Toronto, the Toronto Water Works, and other matters,
having been read,
The Honourable Mr. Cameron moved, seconded by Mr. Bell,
That the Amendments be not now concurred in, but that the Bill be forthwith re-
ferred back to a Committee of the Whole House with instructions to amend the same,
by striking out the clause providing for the election of Mayor by the Council of the Cor-
poration.
And the Amendment, having been put, was carried on the following division : —
YEAS.
Baker,
Barr,
Bell,
Boulter,
Broder,
Cameron,
Coutts,
Creighton,
Deroche,
Flesher,
Grant,
Haney,
Clarke (Norfolk), Harkin,
Clarke ( Wellington), Kean,
Code, Lauder,
Messieurs
Long, O'Sullivan,
Lyon, Pardee,
McDougall (Middle-Patterson (Essex),
sex), Preston,
Macdougall (Simcoe),Rosevear,
McGowan, Tooley,
Meredith, Wigle,
Mostyn, Wilson. — 34.
O'Donoghue,
Appkby,
Bailantyne,
Baxter,
Bishop,
Brown,
Chisholm,
Cole,
Currie,
Dawson,
Finlayson,
Gibson,
Graham,
Hardy,
Hargraft,
Hay,
Hodgins,
NAYS.
Messieurs
Hunter,
Lane,
McCraney,
Miller,
Mowat,
Patterson ( York),
Sexton,
Sinclair,
Striker,
Watterworth,
Widdifidd,
Williams,
Wills,
Food— 30.
156 21sT FEBRUARY. 1877.
The House then resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time spent
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had amended the Bill as instructed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 93), To amend
the several Acts respecting the Education Department, Public and High Schools, and the
University of Toronto', and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the
Chair ; and Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), reported, That the Committee had directed him to
report the Bill, with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House, according to Order, proceeded to take into further consideration the Re-
solutions reported from the Committee of Supply on Tuesday, the fifteenth day of Febru-
ary instant, the consideration whereof had been postponed.
The Forty-fifth Resolution, respecting the School of Practical Science, having been
again read,
Mr. Patterson (Essex) moved, seconded by Mr. Richardson,
That, as the Reports brought down to this House have shewn that the pupils attending
the School of Practical Science were principally residents of the City of Toronto and Vil-
lage of Yorkville, and that the advantages, if any, are purely of a local character, and as it
is proposed to sell the property now owned by the Province and used for the purpose of
said School of Technology, and which cost in the year 1871, $35,000 to the Mechanics'
Institute of the City of Toronto, for the sum of $28,000, and incurring a loss to the Pro-
vince of $7,000 in said sale, and devoting a large portion of the proceeds thereof to the
erection of a new buildiug upon the University Grounds, and involving the continuance
of the maintenance of said School of Practical Science, therefore be it resolved — That as
no sufficient reasons exist for the continuance of said School that the said sum of $5,690
be struck out.
And the Motion, having been put, was lost on a division.
The Forty-fifth Resolution was then agreed to.
- The Fifty-ninth Resolution, respecting the School of Agriculture, having been again
read,
Mr. Boulter moved, seconded by Mr. Richardson,
That, as the Agricultural Farm is a purely experimental undertaking, and as it is
proposed to expend twenty-five thousand dollars in the erection of additional buildings,
without satisfactory evidence being furnished to this House that said Agricultural College
is likely to prove a success, and accomplish the objects for which it was originally designed,
this House does not concur in the said appropriation of $16,800; and, be it resolved,
That the item be reduced by $10,000, being the portion appropriated, a part of the cost to
be incurred in the erection of said additional buildings.
And the Mptioii, having been put, was lost on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs.
Baker, Coutts, McDougall (Simcoe^Richardson,
BjLrr, Creighton, McGowan, Rosevear,
Bell, Flesher, Meredith, Scott,
Boulter, Harkin, Monk, Tooley,
Broder, Long, Patterson (Essex), Wills. — 24.
Brown, McDougall, (Middle- L }reston,
Code, sex),
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157
NAYS.
Messieurs
Appleby,
Ballantyne,
Baxter
Bishop,
Bonfield,
Cameron,
Chisholm,
Ferris,
Finlayson,
Gibson,
Graham,
Grant,
Haney,
Hardy,
Lane,
Lyon,
McCraney,
Massie,
Miller,
Mostyn,
Mowat,
O'Donoghue,
Pardee,
Patterson (York),
Ross,
Sinclair,
Springer,
Striker,
Watterworth,
Widdifield,
Williams,
Wilson,
Food— 42
Clarke (Wellington) Hargraft,
Cole, Say,
Crooks, Hodgins,
Dawson, Hunter,
The Fifty-ninth Resolution was then agreed to.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by command of the Lieutenant-
Go vernor : —
Report of Commissioner of Agriculture on the Products, Manufactures, &c., of
Ontario exhibited at the International Exhibition, Philadelphia, 1876. (Sessional Papers,
No. 33.)
Also, Return of correspondence and papers relating to the Erie and Huron Railway.
(Sessional Papers, No. 41.)
Also, in obedience to an Order of the House, a Return of the Coroner's inquisition,
evidence given thereon, and finding of the jury in the case of James Skye, or Schyler, who
died in the Central Prison, Toronto, on or about the 26th July, 1875 ; also, of the Coroner's
inquisitions, evidence given thereon, and finding of the jury in the cases of all other pri-
soners who have died in the Central Prison, together with any reports of the Prison Sur-
geon thereon. (Sessional Papers, No. 48.)
The House then adjourned at 11.20 P.M.
Thursday, 22nd February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally received and read : —
Of the City of Hamilton and the County of Wentworth, praying that an Act may
pass to confirm a certain agreement.
Of the Township Council of Wallace, respecting a By-law in favour of the Stratford
and Hwon Railway.
Of William Mortimer and others, praying for certain amendments to the Spirit
License Act.
Of Loyal Orange Lodge No. 200, of Tecumaeth ; also of Orange Lodge No. 556 ; also
of Orange Lodge No. 1,990; also of Orange Lodge No. 852 ; also of Orange Lodge No.
661 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 1,018 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 812 ; also of Orange
Lodge No. 645 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 1,258 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 615 ; also of
Orange Lodge No. 965 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 988 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 1,237;
also of Orange Lodge No. 1,179 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 731 ; also of Orange Lodge
158 22ND FEBRUARY. 1877.
No. 19 ; also of Orange Lodge No^ 1,362 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 1,152 ; also of Orange
Lodge No. 922 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 633 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 777 ; also of
Orange Lodge No. 1,386 ; also of Orange Lodge No. 787 ; also of Orange Lodges, all of
Western Ontario ; also of Orange Lodge of Mount Forest ; also of Orange Lodge of Went-
worth ; also of Orange Lodge of Barton ; also of Orange Lodge of Moore ; also of Orange
Lodge of South Wellington ; severally praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the
Loyal Orange Associations of Ontario East and Ontario West.
The following Bill was read the third time, and passed : —
Bill (No. 39), To incorporate the People's Gas Company.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
Statement of the Returns forwarded to the office of the Provincial Secretary of all
fees and emoluments received by the Registrars of Ontario for the year 1876, made in
accordance with the provisions of the Statutes of Ontario, 31 Tic. cap. 20, sec. 74.
(Sessional Papers No. 49.)
The Honourable Mr. Pardee moved, seconded by the Honourable Mr. Crooks,
That this House will To-morrow resolve itself into a Committee to consider certain
proposed Resolutions relating to Railway Aid.
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, by command of the Lieutenant-Governor,
acquainted the House that the Lieutenant-Governor, having been informed of the subject
matter of the proposed Resolutions, recommended the same to the consideration of the
House.
Resolved, That this House will To-morrow resolve itself into a Committee to consider
certain proposed Resolutions relating to Railway Aid, as follows :—
Resolved, That, subject to the conditions hereinafter mentioned, aid shall be granted
out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund to the undermentioned Railway Companies, for
the construction of the portions of Railway hereinafter mentioned, as follow, that is to
say:
The Victoria Railway Company, from Kinmount Village to Halibarton, a distance of
about twenty- two miles, at the rate of six hundred and ninety two dollars and sixteen cents
per mile, per annum, payable half-yearly for twenty years ;
The Whitby and Port Perry Railway Company from Port Perry to Lindsay, a distance
of about twenty-seven miles, at the rate of one hundred and seventy-three dollars and four
cents per mile, per annum, payable half-yearly for twenty years ;
The Prince Arthur's Landing and Kaministiquia River Railway Company, from Prince
Arthur's Landing to Fort William, a distance of about six miles, at the rate of one hundred
and seventy- three dollars and four cents per mile, per annum, payable half-yearly for twenty
years ;
The Kingston and Pembroke Railway Company, from the Mississippi River to the
Madawaska River, a distance of about thirty miles, at the rate of six hundred and ninety-
two dollars and sixteen cents per mile, per annum, payable half yearly for twenty years ;
The Credit Valley Railway Company, from Toronto to Ingersoll, and its branches, from
Streetsville to Alton, and from Cataract to Elora, being in all a distance of about one hundred
and fifty-two and a half miles, at the rate of eighty-six dollars and fifty-two cents per mile,
per annum, payable half-yearly for twenty years, such last mentioned aid being in addition
to former grants to this Company ;
The Montreal and City of Ottawa Junction Railway Company, from the boundary line
between Ontario and Quebec, to or near the City of Ottawa, a distance of about sixty-six
miles, at the rate of eighty-six dollars and fifty-two cents per mile, per annum, payable half-
yearly for twenty years, such last mentioned aid being in addition to former grants to this
Company.
The payment of such aid under this Resolution shall be computed in manner following,,
thai is to say :
(a.) If the portion of the railway for which payment is made has been completed be-
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tween the first day of January and the first day of July, the payments shall be computed as
commencing on the first day of January of the preceding year ;
(&.) And if the portion for which the payment is made has been completed between the
first day of July and the thirty-first day of December, the payments shall be computed as
commencing on the first day of July of the preceding year.
Resolved, That all of the said grants of aid are to be respectively subject to the following
conditions :
(1.) The Lieuten ant-Governor in Council may require any railway company so aided to
enter into an agreement or agreements with any other railway company or companies, con-
taining such terms and details as the Lieutenant-Governor in Council may approve of, in
order to secure running powers or rights of user to such company or companies over the line
or portion of line of railway of the company aided under this Resolution, or former Acts, or
in the discretion of the Lieutenant Governor in Council, for the haulage thereover of the cars
and traffic of such other company or companies upon such terms as in default of agreement
between the respective companies, may be settled upon by the Lieutenant-Governor in Council.
(2.) No payment shall be made to any of the said companies in respect of the said grants
of aid for any portion of their Railway, until the Commissioner of Public Works shall have
reported to the Lieutenant Governor in Council, that such company has completed the por-
tion of its *oad in respect of which payment is to be made (including such sidings and station-
houses as the Commissioner may think necessary for the accommodation of the public), within
the period for completing the Railway or portion thereof named in the Acts relating to the
company, or such other period as may by any other Act be fixed for such purpose.
(3.) Payments may be made as portions of the Railway, not less than ten continuous
miles, are completed as aforesaid ; and in cases where the whole distance aided is less than
ten miles, then for such distance.
(4.) After a Company has complied with the conditions necessary, and the Commis-
sioner has reported as aforesaid, scrip or certificates may be issued for and in respect of the
said grant ; and when signed by the Treasurer of this Province and the Accountant in his
department, and countersigned by the Auditor, every such certificate shall be valid and
binding on the Province, according to its tenor and effect ; and it shall not be necessary
for any transferee, in good faith, of such certificate to inquire into, or obtain proof of, any
facts stated therein, all of which shall be deemed conclusive as against the Province, in
favour of such transferee.
(5.) The conditions contained in section six of the Act of last Session, intituled "An
Act respecting Aid to certain Railways, and for other purposes," shall also apply to all
Companies receiving aid under this Resolution.
(6.) Each of the said Companies shall furnish such information of the progress of the
works on the Railway of the Company as may from time to time be required by the Com-
missioner of Public Works ; and also such statistical or other details, accounts, and in-
formation as from time to time may be required from them by the Commissioner after
completion of the Railway.
(7.) The location, grades, the widths, and slopes of cuttings and embankments, the
plans of bridges, culverts, buildings, and other structures, the weight and section of iron
rails, and other details of proposed construction of the Colonization Railways hereinafter
mentioned, shall be subject to inspection and approval by the Government Engineer be-
fore the commencement of the works, as well as after completion.
(8.) In order to secure the continuous running of the Railways aided by this Act, the
iron or steel rails laid from time to time by any of the said Railways are not to be re-
moved by the Company, or by the authority of the Company, without the consent of the
Lieutenant-Governor in Council, obtained on the recommendation of the Commissioner of
Public Works.
(9.) The appropriation heretofore made to the Kingston and Pembroke Railway for
that portion of the Railway from the River Mississippi northward, not yet under con-
struction is hereby cancelled.
The Honourable Mr. Pardee moved, seconded by the Honourable Mr. Crooks,
That this House will To-morrow resolve itself into a Committee to consider certain
proposed Resolutions relating to a Railway Land Subsidy Fund.
160 22ND FEBRUARY. 1877.
The Honourable Attorney- General Mowat, by command of the Lieutenant-Governor,
acquainted the House that the Lieutenant-Go vernor, having been informed of the subject
matter of the proposed Resolutions, recommended the same to the consideration of the
House.
Resolved, That this House will To-morrow resolve itself into a Committee to con-
sider a certain proposed Resolution relating to a Railway Subsidy Fund — which Reso-
lution is as follows : —
Resolved, That inasmuch as the construction of Colonization Railways will promote
the settlement and increase the value of certain unsettled lands in the Free Grant Terri-
tory of the Province ; and inasmuch as it is desirable that a portion of the said lands
should be set apart and sold for the purpose of forming a fund to recoup the Province in
respect of moneys expended in aiding Railways ; a tract of land is therefore set apart
for the purpose of being sold, and the proceeds thereof applied to form the fund aforesaid,
that is to say, a tract of land at least ten miles in width on each side of the present pro-
jected line of the Victoria Railway, or on each side of the line of the said Railway as the
same may be hereafter finally located and established, which tract shall extend from the
northern boundary of the Townships of Ayr and Clyde to the River Ottawa at or near the
mouth of the Mattawan River ;
That the said lands so set apart, shall be sold at such price, not less than two dollars
per acre, and on such terms and conditions otherwise, as the Lieutenant-Governor may
from time to time determine ;
That the moneys arising from the sale of the lands so set apart, shall constitute a
fund to be called " The Railway Subsidy Fund, 1877," and a separate account of the same
shall be kept by the Treasurer of the Province ;
That the Railway Subsidy Fund shall be applied as follows :
(a) The cost and expenses of the collection of the said fund shall form and be the
first charge thereon.
(b) The remainder of the said fund shall be applied in or towards payment of the
moneys by any Act of this Session granted, or which may hereafter be granted in aid of
Railways ;
That all pine trees upon the said lands shall be reserved from sale, and the proceeds
of the sale of the said trees shall form no part of the said Railway Subsidy Fund ;
That in case, after the said lands are placed in the market,the Commissioner of Crown
Lands reports in writing that any particular portion or portions of the lands so set apart,
is or are not worth two dollars per acre, it shall be lawful for the Lieutenant-Governor in
Council to reduce the said price, aad the same may thereafter be sold at such reduced
rate ;
That, notwithstanding anything herein contained, the Lieutenant-Governor in Coun-
cil may dispose, by way of free grant, of any of the lands so set apart as aforesaid, for the
right of way of any railway, or for railway stations workshops, or lands necessarily re-
quired for constructing or working any railway, or any other lands required for public
purposes, and of which the Lieutenant-Governor in Council may deem it to be in the
public interest to make free grants.
The Honourable Mr. Cameron, proceeding to speak to the Resolutions, an objection
was taken, and the Speaker having been appealed to decided, That if any motion be made
in the House involving a charge upon the people, the debate shall not be presently entered
upon, but shall be adjourned until a future day.
The House, according to Order, proceeded to take into further consideration the Re-
solutions reported from the Committee of Supply on Tuesday, the fifteenth day of February'
instant, the consideration whereof had been postponed.
The Sixtieth Resolution, respecting the expenses of works at the School of Practical
Science having been again read,
On motion of the Honourable Mr. Crooks, seconded by the Honourable Mr. Pardee,
Resolved, That the Resolution be not agreed to.
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22ND FEBKUARY.
The Sixty-fourth ^Resolution, respecting the works at Government House, having been
again read,
The Honourable Mr. Crooks moved, seconded by the Honourable Mr. Pardee,
JResolved, That the words " twenty thousand dollars " be struck out of the Resolution,
and the words " ten thousand dollars" substituted therefor.
The Resolution as amended, having been again read, was agreed to.
The Eightieth Resolution, respecting the expenses of construction and repairs to Colon-
zation Roads, having been again read,
Mr. Patterson (Essex) moved, seconded by Mr. Harkin,
That the words " nineteen thousand two hundred and twenty-three dollars and eighty-
seven cents," be struck out of the Resolution, and the words "fifty thousand dollars"
substituted therefor.
Mr. Hardy moved, in amendment, seconded by Mr. Wilson,
That all the words after " That " be struck out, and the following inserted in lieu there-
of, " there be added to the Eightieth Resolution the following words, * and this House is of
opinion that proper and due regard for economy, and the public interest, is now practised in
the purchase of supplies for Colonization Roads, and that in all practicable and reasonable
cases tenders are asked for such supplies.' "
And the Amendment, having been put, was carried on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Appleby,
Ballantyne,
Baxter,
Bishop,
Bonfield,
Chisholm,
Currie,
Ferris,
Finlayson,
Fraser,
Gibson,
Graham,
Clarke (Norfolk), Grant,
Clarke ( Wellington), Hargraft,
Cole, Hay,
Crooks, Hodgins,
Lane,
Ross,
Lyon,
Sexton,
McCraney,
Sinclair,
McMahon,
Springer,
Massie,
Striker,
Miller,
Watterworth,
Mowat,
Widdifield,
O'Donoghue,
Williams,
Pardee,
Wilson,
Robinson,
Food— 40.
NAYS.
Messieurs
Barr,
Bell,
Boulter,
Broder,
Cameron,
Code,
Coutts,
Creighton, McGowan
Flesher, McRay,
Grange, Meredith,
Harkin, Monk,
McDougall (Middle-0' Sullivan,
Preston,
Richardson,
Rosevear,
TooUy,
Wigle,
sex),
Patterson (Essex), Wills.—
McDougalKSimcoe'),
The Eightieth Resolution, as amended, was then agreed to.
The House then adjourned at 11.40 P.M.
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23RD FEBRUARY.
1877.
Friday, 23rd February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally introduced and read : —
Of James Moffat and others ; also of Samuel Beatty and others, all of Toronto, severally
praying that the Mayor of Tovonto may be elected by the people.
Of the Agricultural Society of Lincoln, praying that Township Agricultural Societies
may be abolished.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by command of the Lieutenant-
Go vernor, —
Return of correspondence and papers relating to the following railways : — Midland Rail-
way, Lake Simcoe Junction Railway, and the UOrignal and Caledonia, Railway.
The Order of the day for the third reading of Bill (No. 53), Respecting the Toronto
Street Railway Company having been read,
The Honourable Mr. Cameron moved, seconded by Mr. Bell,
That the Bill be not now read the third time, but that it be forthwith referred back
to a Committee of the Whole House, with instructions to amend the same by striking
out the amendment made to the first clause by the Committee.
The Honourable Mr. Fraser moved, in amendment, seconded by the Honourable Mr.
Civrrie,
That all the words after " instructions " in the motion be struck out, and the follow-
ing inserted in lieu thereof: — " to amend the same by striking out the first, second, and
third clauses of the Bill, and inserting in lieu thereof, and as the first clause of the Bill,
the words following : " section one and its sub-sections, and sections two and four of 39th
Victoria, cap. 63, are hereby repealed."
And the Amendment, having been put, was lost on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Baxter,
Bonfidd,
Boulter,
Coutts,
Crooks,
Dawson,
Deacon,
Baker.
Barr,
Bell
Betkune,
Broder,
Cameron,
Chisholm.
Cole,
Fraser,
G-range,
Grant
Harkin.
Hunter,
Kean,
Long,
Oreighton,
Deroche,
Ferris,
Gibson,
Graham,
Hodgins,
Lane,
Lyon,
McDougall (Middle-Paxton,
sex)
McMahon,
Meredith,
O'Donoghue,
0' Sullivan,
Patterson (Essez),
NAYS.
Messieurs
McCraney,
McRae,
Massie,
Miller,
Monk,
Mostyn,
Mowat,
Pardee,
Robinson,
Sexton,
Snetsinger,
Springer,
Tooley,
Wills.— -27.
Richardson,
Scott,
Sinclair,
Striker,
Widdifield,
Wilson,
Food— 31.
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23RD FEBRUARY.
163
Mr. Gibson then moved, in amendment, seconded by Mr. PPatterworth,
That all the words after " instructions " in the Motion be struck out, and the follow-
ing inserted in lieu thereof : — " to
strike out of the first clause all after the word ' re
pealed.' "
And the Amendment, having
been put, was lost on the following division : —
/
YEAS.
Messieurs
Baxter, Fraser,
Long, Patterson (Essex),
Bonfield, Gibson,
McDougall (Mid- Paxton.
Boulter, Grange,
dlesex), Robinson,
Coutts, Grant,
McMahon, Sexton,
Greighton, Harkin.
Meredith, Snetsinger,
Crooks, Hunter,
O'Donoghue, Tooley.
Dawson. Kean,
O'Sullivan, Wills.— 29.
Deacon, Lane,
NAYS.
Messieurs
Baker, Deroche,
Miller, Sinclair,
Barr, Ferris,
Bell, Graham,
Monk, Springer,
Mostyn, Striker,
Bethune, Hodgins,
Mowat, Widdifield,
Broder, Lyon,
Pardee, Williams,
Cameron, ' McGraney,
Richardson, Wilson,
Chisholm, McRae,
Scott, Wood.— 30.
Cole, Massie,
The original Motion, having been then put, was carried on the following division : —
v
YEAS.
•
Messieurs
Baker, Crooks,
Massie, Scott,
Barr, Deroche,
Miller, Sinclair,
Bell, Ferris,
Monk, Striker,
Bethune, Graham,
Mostyn, Widdifield,
Broder, Hodgins,
Mowat, Williams,
Cameron, Lyon,
Pardee, Wilson,
Chisholm, McCraney,
Richardson, Wood — 30.
Creighton, McRae,
NAYS.
Messieurs
Baxter, Gibson,
McDougall (Middle-Paxton,
Bonfield, Grange,
sex), Robinson,
Boulter, Grant,
McMahon, Sexton,
Cole, Harkin,
Meredith, Snetsinger,
Coutts, Hunter,
Dawson, Kean,
O'Donoghue, Springer,
O'Sullivan, Tooley,
Deacon, Long,
Patterson (Essex), Wills— 28.
Fraser.
164 23RD FEBRUARY. 1877.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and after some time spent
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Baxter reported, That the Committee
had amended the Bill as instructed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Crooks,
Resolved, That this House doth ratify the Order dated 15th February, 1877, approved
by the Lieutenant-Governor in Council with reference to the Prince Edward County Rail-
way, which Order is to the following effect : — Upon the recommendation of the Honourable
the Treasurer, dated the 15th of February, 1877, the Committee of Council advise, that
having regard to the circumstances connected with the contract of the Prince Edward
County Railway which were set forth in the documents presented to the Legislature, the
period for proof of contract for the construction of the works of the said Railway mentioned
in the Order in Council of the twenty-seventh day of June, 1876, be extended to the first
day of January, 1878.
On Motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Crooks,
Resolved, That this House doth ratify the Order dated 15th day of February, 1877,
approved by the Lieutenant-Governor in Council with reference to the Montreal and City
of Ottawa Junction Railway, which Order is to the following effect : Upon the recommen-
dation of the Honourable the Treasurer dated the 15th day of February, 1877, the Com-
mittee of Council advise that having regard to the circumstances connected with the con-
tract of the Montreal and City of Ottawa Junction Railway which are set forth in the docu-
ments presented to the Legislature, the period for proof of contract for the construction
of the work of the said Railway mentioned in the Order in Council of the fourteenth day
of December, 1874, be extended to the first day of January, 1878.
On Motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowa', seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Crooks,
Resolved, That the House doth ratify an Order in Council, approved by the Lieutenant-
Governor on the 12th day of February, 1877, which Order is to the following effect : —
" Upon the recommendation of the Honourable the Treasurer, dated the 10th February,
1877, the Committee of Council advise that the time limited by the Order in Council of
the 16th of December, 1874, duly ratified in respect of the completion of the Credit Valley
Railway, and the grant from the Railway Subsidy Fund, made by the Order in Council of
the 20th of March, 1873, also duly ratified, be extended until the 1st day of January, 1880,
upon the grounds appearing in the Petition presented by the said Company, and upon the
statement of the Engineer of the Public Works Department, as to the progress already
made on works of construction of the Railway.
The Order of the Day having been read for the House to resolve itself into a Com-
mittee to consider a certain proposed Resolution relative to the expenses of the defaults
of the late Judge Wilson.
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, by command of the late Lieutenant-Gov-
ernor, acquainted the House that the Lieutenant-Governor, having been informed of the
subject matter of the proposed Resolution, recommended the same to the consideration of
the House.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Baxter reported, That the Com-
mittee had come to a Resolution.
Ordered, That the Report be received forthwith.
Mr. Baxter, from the Committee, reported the Resolution, which was read as
follows . —
Resolved, That out of the surplus interest now accumulated upon the moneys in, or
invested by, the Court of Chancery, the sum of eleven hundred and four dollars and forty-
five cents ($1,104.45), be transferred to the credit of the Treasurer of the Province, to be
40 Vic. 23RD AND 26™ FEBRUARY. 165
applied in making good certain defaults of the late W. M. Wilson, Esq., Judge of the
County Court of the County of Norfolk, and Real Representative under the Partition Act
in and for the said County : Provided, that the said sum shall be subject to any claims
to the same, or any portion thereof, which hereafter may be made and established by any
of the suitors of said Court, or any of their representatives.
The Resolution, having been read a second time, was agreed to.
The House then adjourned at 10.25 P.M.
Monday, 26th February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petition was brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. Dawson — The Petition of G. B. Amy and others, of Manitoulin Island
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, from the Select Committee to whom was
referred Bill (No. 69), Respecting the Revised Statutes of Ontario; Bill (No. Ill), To
provide for certain Amendments and additions to the Statutes of the Province as Consoli-
dated by the Commissioners appointed for that purpose, and Bill (No. 112), To provide
for certain Amendments of the Law, presented their Report, which was read as fol-
lows : —
The Committee have examined the Bills to them referred and report the same with
certain amendments.
•The Order of the Day for the Third Reading of Bill (No. 53), respecting the Toronto
Street Railway Company having been read,
The Honourable Mr. Cameron moved :
That the Bill be now read the third time.
And a Debate having arisen,
The Honourable Mr. Fraser moved, seconded by the Honourable Mr. Pardee,
That the Debate be adjourned.
And the Motion, having been put, was carried on the following division : — (Yeas 48 ;
Nays, 22.) ,
Ordered, That the Debate be adjourned.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 119), To provide
for the erection of a Court House in the City of Hamilton ; and, after some time spent
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Crooks,
Ordered, That on and after Tuesday next there shall be two separate Sittings of this
House on each day, the first Sitting to be from Three o'clock P.M. until Six P.M., and the
second Sitting to begin at half-past Seven o'clock, P.M.
The House, according to Order, resolved itself into a Committee to consider certain
proposed Resolutions relating to Railway Aid and to the Railway Land Subsidy Fund ;
166 26TH FEBRUARY. 1877.
and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee
had come to certain Resolutions.
Ordered, That the Report be received To-morrow.
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into a Committee of Supply.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That there be granted to Her Majesty, for the service of the year 1877,
the following sums : —
84. To defray the expenses of Civil Government, as follows :—
Executive Council and Attorney-General's Department.
Clerk $600 00
Allowance to Clerk in charge of the License Branch Trea-
sury Department in 1876 200 00
Clerk in Secretary and Registrar's Office 600 00
For supply of blank forms from Registrar General to Post-
masters throughout the Province for returns 500 00
Total for Civil Government $1,900 00
85. — To defray the expenses of Legislation, as follows : —
Contingencies $2,800 00
Further amount required for the payment of Sessional
Clerks 3,000 00
Total for Legislation $5,800 00
86. — To defray the expenses of the Administration of Justice as follow : —
Usher and Crier Court of Common Pleas (error in amount
of salary) $2000
District of Muskoka : —
Re-vote of amount unexpended in 1876, but required for
unpaid accounts of that year $700 00
District of Algoma : —
For rent due Clerk of the Peace and District Attorney. 350 00
Rent for this year 100 00
For rent paid by Deputy Clerk of the Crown 75 00
Total for Administration of Justice $1,245 00
87. — To defray the expenses of the Education Department as follow : —
Minister of Education $4,500 00
88. — To defray the expenses of maintenence of Public Institutions as follow : —
Asylum for the Insane, London,
To cover unpaid accounts for services of 1876 $1,927 37
Asylum for the Insane, Hamilton,
Additional salary for Assistant Superintendent 100 00
For Maintenance and transfer of patients in 1876 1,998 61
To cover unpaid accounts for 1876 863 00
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Reformatory, Penetanguishene,
To cover unpaid accounts for 1876, incurred through in-
crease of patients. $427 10
Under estimate for salaries of two teachers 200 00
Institution for the Deaf and Dumb, Belleville,
To cover unpaid accounts for 1876. incurred through in-
crease in the number of pupils and under estimate for
fuel, &c 3,33396
Total for Maintenance of Public Institutions $8,850 04
89. — To detray the expenses of a grant in aid of the maintenance
of the School of Art and Design ..." $600 00
90. — To defray the expenses of a grant in aid of Hospitals and
Charities, being additional required to make up deficiency in
allowance to certain Institutions under the Act, so as to
equal the amount paid last year $4,944 63
91. — To defray the expenses of Miscellaneous Expenditure, as follow :
Philadelphia International Exhibition (further expenses in
aiding Provincial Objects not covered by appropriation
of last year) $4,000 00
Consolidation of Statute Law (for printing and binding
12,000 sets of two volumes each of Revised Statutes).... 30,000 00
Voters' Lists for 1877 (inpayment of expenses of County
Court Judges in revising) 3,000 00
County Court Judges, for travelling expenses in grouped
Counties 1,05000
License law, towards expenses in Municipalities in which
Temperance Act of 1864 is in force 2,000 00
Clerk of Private Bills (on discontinuance of office), equiv-
alent to nine months' salary 900 00
Representatives of late Mr. Gibson, Science Master, Normal
School, Ottawa 18750
Representatives of late Dr. Landor, Medical Superintendent
of London Asylum 2,00000
Representatives of late Col. Savage, Registrar of Algoma
District 200 00
Representatives of deceased employees at London Asylum, viz. : —
Late J. J. Davy $100 00
Late Wm. Howe 43 33
Late Alexander Black.. 43 33
Total for Miscellaneous Expenditure $43,524 16
92. — To defray the expenses of Works at the Public Buildings, as follow : —
To complete proposed works for accommodation of addi-
tional pupils at the School of Agriculture, Guelph $15,000 00
Further amount required for erection of Cheese Factory
in connection with proposed Dairy 3,000 00
To additional water-closets in projection from main
building at the Institute for the Blind, Brantford 1,000 00
168 26TH FEBRUARY. 1877.
Colouring^ painting, &c., of Examination Hall at the
Education Department, Toronto $80000
Furniture, furnishings, matting, &c., for Court of Appeal
and Master's office at Osgoode Hall, Toronto 2,000 00
Total for Public Buildings $21,800 00
93. — To defray the expenses of the Refund Account, as follow ; —
Amount of forfeited bail, re Brownlee $911 00
Total , $94,074 83
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington) reported, That the
Committee had come to several Resolutions ; and, That the Committee had directed him
to ask leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received To-morrow.
Resolved, That this House will again resolve itself into Committee of Supply To-
morrow.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by command of the Lieutenant-
Go vernor : —
Correspondence and papers relating to the following Railways : — South Western Rail-
way Company, Erie and Huron Railway Company, Toronto, Grey and Bruce Railway Com-
pany, Belleville and North Hastings Railway Company, and the Montreal and City of
Ottawa Junction Railway Company, (Sessional Papers, No. 41J
On motion of Mr. Lane, seconded by Mr. Patterson (Ifork),
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Return in connection with the
Toronto General Hospital shewing —
1st. The amount of the income of that Institution, from all sources, for the last
year.
2nd. The number of patients received into the said Institution during the last year,
and the number sent from each municipality in the Province.
3rd. The cost per day for the maintenance and medical treatment of each patient.
4th. The amount charged per day to the different municipalities for patients sent by
them to the Institution.
On motion of Mr. Lauder, seconded by Mr. Meredith,
Ordered, That the fees be remitted on Bill (No. 85), Peel General Manufacturing
Company.
On motion of Mr. Meredith, seconded by Mr. Lauder,
Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to the Lieutenant-Governor praying
that he will cause to be laid before thi^ House : — A Return giving the names of the
present holders of Timber Limits in the Muskoka and Parry Sound Free Grant Districts,
to whose limits the special rates of dues, imposed under the Order of Council of 4th Oc-
tober, 1871, apply ; also, for a copy of the said Order in Council, and of the petition
presented by certain mill-owners and manufacturers of the said Districts, praying for a
reduction of such dues, with the several names appended to such petition ; also, for
copies of all reports made by any officer of the Crown Lands Department, upon the said
petition, and the matters therein contained.
On motion of Mr. Witts, seconded by Mr. Boulter,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House : — A Return of all Accidents and
Casualties (whether to life or property) which have occurred on the Railways in the
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Province of Ontario, under the jurisdiction of the Legislature of the said Province for the
years 1874, 1875, and 1876, which shall set forth, 1st. The names of the respective com-
panies ; 2nd. The causes and natures of such accidents and casualties ; 3rd. The points
at which they respectively occurred, and whether by day or night ; 4th. The full extent
thereof and all the particulars of the same.
On motion of Mr. Boulter, seconded by Mr. Wills,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return of the Colleges and other In-
titutions affiliated to the University of Toronto, under the provisions of the University
Act of 1853 (16 Vic. cap. 89), and of the Colleges and other Institutions now affiliated
to the said University, with a complete list of the graduates of the University of Toronto,
since 1st July, 1867, showing with regard to each, the county to which he belonged, and
if to Canada, what part of Canada • the College or Institution from which he went up
to the said University for his degree ; the year in which he became an undergraduate of
the University, and the year in which he graduated ; also a list of scholarships, certifi-
cates, prizes, or other distinctions specified in classes 23 and 24 of the above-mentioned
Act, awarded by the University of Toronto to undergraduates or students in attendance
at affiliated Colleges since the above date ; the names of the undergraduates who obtained
such distinctions, and for what such distinctions were awarded.
On motion of Mr. Meredith, seconded by Mr. Lauder,
Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to the Lieutenant-Governor, praying
that he will cause to be laid before this House, copies of the Order in Council passed for
the appointment of a Commission under 31 Victoria, cap. 26, to inquire into the claims
of the representatives of the late William A. Scott against the Province ; tlie Commission
issued thereunder ; the instructions (if any) to the Commissioners ; the evidence tak en
before the Commission, and the Report of the Commissioners.
And also, for copies of Correspondence between the Honourable the Attorney-General,
or any other Member of the Government, and the representatives of William A. Scott, or
any other person, with reference to the re-opening of the said inquiry.
On motion of Mr. Broder, seconded by Mr. Creighton,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return of all the correspondence
between George 0. Hays and others, and the Government, or any of their officials, re-
lating to the discovery of gold on the west half of lot number nine, in the ninth conces-
sion of the Township of Marmora, and also in reference to the claims of the discoverers,
and to the subsequent purchase and sale of such land.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 99), To amend the Acts respecting Building Societies.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 107,) Respecting the Drainage of certain Lands by Municipalities, and to
amend the Act respecting Municipal Institutions.
Referred to a Select Committee composed as follows : — The Honourable Mr. Wood :
Messieurs Patterson (Essex), McCraney, McGowan, Bishop, Watterworth, Gibson, Hardy,
Meredith and Coutts,
Bill (No. 114), To amend Cap. 2, 38 Vic., Respecting the Re-adjustment of the
Representation in the Legislative Assembly.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 118), Respecting Municipal Institutions.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the Second Reading of Bill (No. 98), To amend the
Ontario Medical Act, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
170 26TH AND 27TH FEBRUARY. 1877,
The Order of the Day for the Second Reading of Bill (No. 100), To amend the
Pharmacy Act of 1871, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the Second Reading of Bill (No. 108), To make the pro-
visions of an Act respecting the property of Religious Institutions of the Province of
Ontario, applicable to the Church of England, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the Second Reading of Bill (No. 109), To amend the Muni-
cipal Institutions Act, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the Second Reading of Bill (No. 113), To amend the Act
respecting the practice of Physic and Surgery, and the study of Anatomy having been
read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the Second Reading of Bill (No. 116), To amend the Act
respecting Municipal Institutions in the Province of Ontario, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the Second Reading of Bill (No. 117), To amend the Act
respecting Master and Servant, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The House then adjourned at 11.25 P.M.
Tuesday, 27th February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
•
The following Petition was brought up, and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. Bethune — The Petition of James G. Ross and others, of Quebec.
Mr. Coutts, from the Select Committee to whom was referred Bill (No. 107), Re-
specting the drainage of certain lands by Municipalities, and to amend an Act respecting
Municipal Institutions in the Province of Ontario, presented their Report, which was read
as fu: lows : —
The Committee have examined the Bill to them referred, and report the same with
certain amendments.
On motion of Mr. Wilson, seconded by Mr. Hodgins,
Ordered, That the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on Bill (No. 30),
To incorporate Alma College, St. Thomas.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
Municipal Loan Fund Surplus Distribution Schedules, showing the objects to which
the Fund has been appropriated by By-laws, and the payments made upon the same, to the
1st November, 1876. (Sessional Papers, No. 10.)
Also, Municipal Statistics of the Counties, Cities, and Towns in the Province of
Ontario. (Sessional Papers, No. 50.)
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The Order of the Day for resuming the adjourned Debate on the motion for the
third reading of Bill (No. 53), Respecting the Toronto Street Railway Company, having
been read,
The Honourable Mr. Cameron moved,
That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith referred to a Com-
mittee of the Whole House.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time spent
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair: and, Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That
the Committee had made some progress, and directed him to ask leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again at the Second Sittings of this
House To-day.
Mr. Clarke (Wellington), from the Committee to whom was referred certain proposed
Resolutions relating to Railway Aid and to the Railway Land Subsidy Fund, reported the
Resolutions as follow : —
Resolved, That, subject to the conditions hereinafter mentioned, aid shall be granted
out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund to the undermentioned Railway Companies, for
the construction of the portions of Railway hereinafter mentioned, as follow, that is to
say :
The Victoria Railway Company, from Kinmount Village to Haliburton, a distance of
about twenty- two miles, at the rate of six hundred and ninety two dollars and sixteen cents
per mile, per annum, payable half-yearly for twenty years ;
The Whitby abd Port Perry Railway Company from Port Perry to Lindsay, a distance
of about twenty -seven miles, at the rate of one hundred and seventy-three dollars and four
cents per mile, per annum, payable half-yearly for twenty years ;
The Prince Arthur's Landing and Kaministiquia River Railway Company, from Prince
Arthur's Landing to Fort William, a distance of about six miles, at the rate of one hundred
and seventy- three dollars and four cents per mile, per annum, payable half-yearly for twenty
years ;
The Kingston and Pembroke Railway Company, from the Mississippi River to the
Madawaska River, a distance of about thirty miles, at the rate of six hundred and ninety-
two dollars and sixteen cents per mile, per annum, payable half yearly for twenty years ;
The Credit Valley Railway Company, from Toronto to Ingersoll, and its branches, from
Streetsville to Alton, and from Cataract to Mora, being in all a distance of about one hundred
and fifty-twfl and a half miles, at the rate of eighty-six dollars and fifty-two cents per mile,
per annum, payable half-yearly for twenty years, such last mentioned aid being in addition
to former grants to this Company ;
The Montreal and City of Ottawa Junction Railway Company, from the boundary line
between Ontario and Quebec, to or near the City of Ottawa, a distance of about sixty-six
miles, at the rate of eighty-six dollars and fifty-two cents per mile, per annum, payable half-
yearly for twenty years, such last mentioned aid being in addition to former grants to this
Company.
The payment of such aid under this Resolution shall be computed in manner following,
that is to say :
(a.) If the portion of the railway for which payment is made has been completed be-
tween the first day of January and the first day of July, the payments shall be computed as
commencing on the first day of January of the preceding year ;
(b. ) And if the portion for which the payment is made has been completed between the
first day of July and the thirty-first day of December, the payments shall be computed as
commencing on the first day of July of the preceding year.
Resolved, That all of the said grants of aid are to be respectively subject to the following
conditions :
(1.) The Lieutenant-Governor in Council may require any railway company so aided to
enter into an agreement or agreements with any other railway company or companies, con-
taining such terms and details as the Lieutenant-Governor in Council may approve of, in
order to secure running powers or rights of user to such company or companies over the line
or portion of line of railway of the company aided under this Resolution, or former Acts, or
172 27TH FEBRUARY 1877,
in the discretion of the Lieutenant-Governor in Council, for the haulage thereover of the cars
and traffic of such other company or companies upon such terms as in default of agreement
between the respective companies, may be settled upon by the Lieutenant-Governor in Council.
(2.) No payment shall be made to any of the said companies in respect of the said grants
of aid for any portion of their Railway, until the Commissioner of Public Works shall have
reported to the Lieutenant Governor in Council, that such company has completed the por-
tion of its road in respect of which payment is to be made (including such sidings and station-
houses as the Commissioner may think necessary for the accommodation of the public), within
the period for completing the Railway or portion thereof named in the Acts relating to the
company, or such other period as may by any other Act be fixed for such purpose.
(3.) Payments may be made as portions of the Railway, not less than ten continuous
miles, are completed as aforesaid ; and in cases where the whole distance aided is less than
ten miles, then for such distance.
(4.) After a Company has complied with the conditions necessary, and the Commis-
sioner has reported as aforesaid, scrip or certificates may be issued for and in respect of the
said grant ; and when signed by the Treasurer of this Province and the Accountant in his
department, and countersigned by the Auditor, every such certificate shall be valid and
binding on the Province, according to its tenor and effect ; and it shall not be necessary
for any transferee, in good faith, of such certificate to inquire into, or obtain proof of. any
facts stated therein, all of which shall be deemed conclusive as against the Province, in
favour of such transferee.
(5.) The conditions contained in section six of the Act of last Session, intituled ''An
Act respecting Aid to certain Railways, and for other purposes," shall also apply to all
Companies receiving aid under this Resolution.
(6.) Each of the said Companies shall furnish such information of the progress of the
works on the Railway of the Company as may from time to time be required by the Com-
missioner of Public Works ; and also such statistical or other details, accounts, and in-
formation as from time to time may be required from them by the Commissioner after
completion of the Railway.
(7.) The location, grades, the widths, and slopes of cuttings and embankments, the
plans of bridges, culverts, buildings, and other structures, the weight and section of iron
rails, and other details of proposed construction of the Colonization Railways hereinafter
mentioned, shall be subject to inspection and approval by the Government Engineer be-
fore the commencement of the works, as well as after completion.
(8.) In order to secure the continuous running of the Railways aided by this Act, the
iron or steel rails laid from time to time by any of the said Railways are not to be re-
moved by the Company, or by the authority of the Company, without the consent of the
Lieutenant-Governor in Council, obtained on the recommendation of the Commissioner of
Public Works.
(9.) The appropriation heretofore made to the Kingston and Pembroke Railway for
that portion of the Railway from the River Mississippi northward, not yet under con-
struction is hereby cancelled.
Resolved, That inasmuch as the construction of Colonization Railways will promote
the settlement and increase the value of certain unsettled lands in the Free Grant Terri-
tory of the Province ; and inasmuch as it is desirable that a portion of the said lands
should be set apart and sold for the purpose of forming a fund to recoup the Province in
respect of moneys expended in aiding Railways; a tract of land is therefore set apart
for the purpose of being sold, and the proceeds thereof applied to form the fund aforesaid,
that is to say, a tract of land at least ten miles in width on each side of the present pro-
jected line of the Victoria Railway, or on each side of the line of the said Railway as the
same may be hereafter finally located arid established, which tract shall extend from the
northern boundary of the Townships of Ayr and Clyde to the River Ottawa at or near the
mouth of the Mattawan River ;
That the said lands so set apart, shall be sold at such price, not less than two dollars
per acre, and on such terms and conditions otherwise, as the Lieutenant-Governor may
ifrom time to time determine ;
That the moneys arising from the sale of the lands so set apart, shall constitute a
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fund to be called " The Bail way Subsidy Fund, 1877," and a separate account of the same
shall be kept by the Treasurer of the Province ;
That the Railway Subsidy Fund shall be applied as follows :
(a) The cost and expenses of the collection of the said fund shall form and be the
first charge thereon.
(b) The remainder of the said fund shall be applied in or towards payment of the
moneys by any Act of this Session granted, or which may hereafter be granted in aid of
Railways ;
That all pine trees upon the said lands shall be reserved from sale, and the proceeds
of the sale of the said trees shall form no part of the said Railway Subsidy Fund ;
That in case, after the said lands are placed in the market, the Commissioner of Crown
Lands reports in writing that any particular portion or portions of the lands so set apart,
is or are not worth two dollars per acre, it shall be lawful for the Lieutenant-Governor in
Council to reduce the said price, add the same may thereafter be sold at such reduced
rate ;
That, notwithstanding anything herein contained, the Lieutenant-Governor in Coun-
cil may dispose, by way of free grant, of any of the lands so set apart as aforesaid, for the
right of way of any railway, or for railway stations workshops, or lands necessarily re-
quired for constructing or working any railway, or any other lands required for public
purposes, and of which the Lieutenant-Governor in Council may deem it to be in the
public interest to make free grants.
The Honourable Mr. Pardee moved,
That the Resolution be now agreed to.
Mr. Meredith moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Patterson (Essex),
That all the words in the Motion after " That" be struck out, and the following
inserted in lieu thereof, " the Resolutions be not now agreed to, but be forthwith re-corn-
mitted with instructions to strike out the paragraph thereof, which provides for the
granting of aid to the Credit Valley Railway Company."
And a Debate having arisen,
Ordered, That the Debate be adjourned.
The House then adjourned at 6 P.M.
7.30 P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. Ferris, Two Petitions of the United Counties of Northumberland and
Durham.
The Order of the Day for resuming the Debate on the reception of the Report from
the Committee on the Resolutions respecting Railway Aid, and the Railway Land
Subsidy Fund, adjourned at Six of the clock To-day, having been read,
The Debate was resumed.
And the proposed Amendment, having been put, was lost on the following divi-
sion : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Baxter, Hardy, Massie, Rosevear^
Boultr, Har graft, Meredith, Ross,
Broder, Ha kin, Merrick, Sneteinger,
Creigkton, McDougall, (Mid- Patterson (Essex), Tooley,
Currie, dlesev), Preston, Wills— 21.
Grange, McMahon,
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Messieurs
Appleby, Coutts, Kean, Patterson (York),
Baker, Crooks, Lane, Paxton,
Ballantyne, Dawson, . Lauder, Richardson,
Barr, Deacon, Lyon, Robinson,
Bell, Deroche, McCraney, Scott,
Beihune, Ferris, McDougall (Simcoe), Sexton,
Bishop, Finlayson, McGowan, Sinclair,
Bonjield, Flesher, McRae, Springer,
Brown, Fraser, Miller, Striker,
Cameron, Gibson, Monk, Watterworth,
Chisholm, Graham, Mostyn, Widdifield,
Clarice (Norfolk), Grant, Mowat, Wigle,
Clarke (Wellington}, Hay, O'Donoghue, Williams,
Code, Hodgins, O'Sullivan, Wilson,
Cole, Hunter, Pardee, Wood — 60.
Mr. Creighton then moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Lauder,
That the following be added to the Resolutions : —
" This House regrets that the Government has not recommended for the consideration
of the people's representatives the expediency of granting further aid to the Toronto, Grey
and Bruce Railway Company, in respect of the portion of the line between Weston and
Orangeville, which portion has not heretofore received Government aid."
Mr. Speaker said, That this was an abstract Resolution, tending to an appropriation
of part of the Public Revenue. The question of this right of private members to move
abstract resolutions of a certain character seems to have been decided in a case reported
in the Journals of this House, 1868-9, p. 67, where a motion, that it was expedient to
attract immigration into this Province by granting certain privileges as to cutting and
' disposing of timber, was ruled out of order, not only by the Speaker but, on appeal, by
the House. By a reference to the Globe report, it will be found that the question of
abstract Resolutions upon matters affecting the Revenue was fully discussed. See also
7 Jour. Ont., 255 ; 8 Ib., 125 • see also ] Todd, p 252; May, p. 585 161 Han., 1448 ;
205 Ib., 394. The form of the present motion — expressing regret, &c. — differs from
those referred to, and perhaps involves other considerations. At all events, the matter
was one of so much importance that, with the permission of the House, he would
postpone the further consideration of it until the third reading of the Bill, when the
same amendment could be moved.*
The original Motion, having been then put, was carried, and the Resolutions, having
been read the second time, were agreed to.
The following Bill was introduced, and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 123), intituled, " An Act respecting aid to certain Railways, and the
creation of a Railway Land Subsidy Fund." — The Honourable Mr. Pardee.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time, at the First Sitting of this House
To-morrow.
The Order of the Day having been read for the House to resolve itself into a Com-
mittee to consider a certain proposed Resolution respecting the Rockwood Asylum,
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, by command of the Lieutenant-Governor,
acquainted the House that the Lieutenant-Governor, having been informed of the subject
matter of the proposed Resolution, recommends the same to the consideration of the House.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time
* The amendment was not moved at the third reading, and no decision upon the question of order was
therefore given.
40 Vic. 27TH FEBRUARY. 175
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported,
That the Committee had come to a Resolution.
Ordered, That the Report be received forthwith.
Mr. Clarke (Wellington), from the Committee, reported the Resolution as follows : —
Resolved, That this House doth ratify an agreement relating to the purchase by this
Province, from the Dominion of Canada, of the Rockwood Asylum property, which agree-
ment is in the words following : —
THIS AGREEMENT, made the day of in the year of Our
Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-seven, between Honourable Alexander Mac-
kenzie, as Minister of Public Works of Canada, and the Honourable Christopher Finlay
Fraser, as the Commissioner of Public Works of the Province of Ontario.
Whereas, by the Act of the Parliament of Canada, 34 Victoria, chapter 26, after re-
citing that it may be found expedient to sell or lease Rockwood Asylum and its appurten-
ances to the Province of Ontario ; and that it appears that the Commissioner of Public
Works for that Province has been authorized to treat for the purchase or lease thereof, it
is enacted as follows : — " I, the Governor in Council, may authorize and instruct the
•' Minister of Public Works to treat with the Commissioner of Public Works for the Pro-
' vince of Ontario, for the sale or lease of Rockwood Asylum, and the land appurtenant
' thereto, and if the said Minister and Commissioners agree upon the terms of such* sale
1 or lease, and such terms area pproved by the Governor in Council, the necessary measures
' may be adopted for giving effect to such agreement, subject to the approval of Parlia-
" ment at its then next session ; "
And whereas, the Commissioner of Public Works for Ontario has been authorized to
treat for the said purchase ;
And whereas by Order in Council of 27th November, 1876, the Minister of Public
Works of Canada was authorized and instructed to treat with the Commissioner of Public
Works for Ontario, for the sale of Rockwood Asylum, and the land appertaining thereto ;
Now, therefore, the said Minister and Commissioner do agree for the sale and pur-
chase thereof upon the following terms, namely : —
1. Ontario to pay Canada the sum of ninety-six thousand five hundred dollars for the
freehold of the Asylum property, including the buildings and lands connected
therewith.
2. Ontario to take from Canada at a valuation to be made by three, or the majority
of three, arbitrators, one to be named by Canada, one to be named by Ontario,
and the third to be chosen by the two so named; the chattels and effects upon the
premises, save such of the cell furniture as may be reserved by Canda for the
use of criminal lunatics, to be removed to the Penitentiary.
3. The contracts for supplies existing at the time of the transfer, to be assumed by
Ontario.
4. The staff to be taken over by Ontario.
5. The arrangement to take effect on the first of July next.
6. This agreement to be subject to the approval of the Parliament of Canada during
its next session, and of the Legislature of Ontario during its present session.
In witness whereof, the said parties have set their hands and seals at the day and
year first above written.
The Resolution, having been read the second time, was agreed to.
Mr. Clarke (Wellington), from the Committee of Supply, reported the following Reso-
lutions : —
84. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand nine hundred dollars be granted
to Her Majesty, to defray the expenses of Civil Government for the year ending 31st
December, 1877.
85. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five thousand eight hundred dollars be
granted to Her Majesty, to defray the expenses of Legislation, for the year ending 31st
December, 1877.
86. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand two hundred and forty-five
dollars be granted to Her Majesty, to defray the expenses of Administration of Justice,
for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
176 7TH FEBRUARY. 1877.
87. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four thousand five hundred dollars be granted
to Her Majesty, to defray the salary of the Minister of Education for the year ending 31st
December, 1877.
88. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eight thousand eight hundred and fifty
dollars and four cents, be granted to Her Majesty, to defray the expenses of Maintenance
of Public Institutions for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
89. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six hundred dollars be granted to Her Majesty,
to defray the expenses of Agriculture, Arts, &c., for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
90. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four thousand nine hundred and forty- four
dollars and sixty -three cents be granted to Her Majesty, to defray the expenses of Hos-
pitals and Charities for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
91. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Forty-three thousand five hundred and
twenty-four dollars and sixteen cents be granted to Her Majesty, to defray the expenses
of Miscellaneous Expenditure, for the year ending 31st December, 1877.
92. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-one thousand eight hundred dollars
be granted to Her Majesty, to defray the expenses of Public Buildings, for the year end-
ing 31st December, 1877.
93. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Nine hundred and eleven dollars, be granted
to Her Majesty, to defray the expenses of the Refund Account for the year ending 31st
December, 1877.
The several Resolutions from Eighty-four to Ninety-one, inclusive, having been read
the second time, were agree dto.
The Ninety-second Resolution, respecting Public Buildings, having been again read,
Mr. Scott moved, seconded by Mr. Wigle,
That the following words be added to the Resolution : — " But this House neverthe-
less expresses regret that such a small proportion of those availing themselves of the in-
struction afforded by the school at so large an expense to the Revenue, have continued
the vocation of farming ; a result attributable, in a large measure, to the mode of selecting
pupils heretofore in vogue ; and this House is of opinion that each of the County Councils
in the Province should be empowered to nominate one or more pupils according to the
number that are to be accommodated, and that in the selection of pupils the preference
should be afforded to those so nominated."
Mr. Creighton moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. McGowon,
That all the words in the motion after " That " be struck out, and the following sub-
stituted therefor, " this House while willing to grant such sums as are necessary for con-
tinuing the experiment of a School of Agriculture, regrets that the policy heretofore pur-
sued in making selections from candidates for admission to the School has been such as to
exclude a large proportion of farmers' sons, so that of the forty pupils at present in the In-
stitution, only nineteen are of that class ; and recommends that in future preference be
given to farmers' sons, while there are applicants from that class, so as to make the School
of Agriculture what it wa's designed to .be, a farmers' institution."
And the House having continued to sit until Twelve of the clock, midnight.
WEDNESDAY, 28th February, 1877.
The Amendment, having been put, was lost on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Barr, Creighton, McDougall (Middle- Mostyn,
Bell, Deacon, sex), 0' Sullivan,
Boulter, Flesher, Macdougali (Sim- Patterson (Essex),
Broder, Grange, coe), * Preston,
Broivn, Harkin, McGowan, Richardson,
Cameron, Kean, McRae, Scott,
Code, Louder, Merrick, Tooley,
Coutts, Monk, Wigle—29.
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177
NAYS.
-
Messieurs
Ballantyne,
Dawson,
Lane,
Robinson,
Baxter,
Deroche,
Lyon}
Ross,
Bethune,
Ferris,
McCraney,
Sexton,
Bishop,
Finlayson,
McMahon,
Sinclair,
Bonfield,
Fraser,
Massie,
Springer.
Chisholm,
Gibson,
Meredith,
Striker,
Clarke (Norfolk),
Graham,
Miller,
Watterworth,
Clarke (Wellington), Grant,
Mowat,
Widdifield,
Cole,
Hardy,
O'Donoghue,
Williams,
Crooks,
Hay,
Pardee,
Wilson,
Currie,
Hodgins,
Paxton,
Wood— 44.
Mr. Hodgins then moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Hardy,
That all the words after " That " be struck out, and the following be substituted
therefor, " the following be added to the original Resolution ' and while this House is of
opinion that due weight and consideration should be given to any recommendation of
County Councils for the admission of pupils to the Agricultural College, it is inexpedient
to adopt any rule for that purpose.' "
And the Amendment, having been put, was carried on the following division: —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Ballantyne,
Baxter,
Bishop,,
Bonfield,
Chisholm,
Clarke (Norfolk),
Deroche,
Ferris,
Finlayson,
Fraser,
Gibson,
Graham,
Clarke ( Wellington), Grant,
Cole, Hardy,
Crooks, Say,
Currie, Hodgins,
Dawson, Lane,
Lyon,
McCraney,
McMahon,
Massie,
Meredith,
Miller,
Mostyn,
Mowat,'
O'Donoghue,
Pardee,
Paxton,
Robinson
Ross,
Sexton,
Sinclair,
Striker,
Watterworth,
Widdifield,
Williams,
Wilson,
Wood— 43.
NAYS.
Messieurs
Barr,
Bell,
Boulter,
Broder,
Broivn,
Cameron,
Code,
Coutts,
Creighton,
Deacon,
Flesher,
Grange,
Harkin,
Kean,
Louder,
McDougall (Middle-0' Sullivan,
sex), Patterson (Essex),
Macdougall (Simcoe)Preston,
McGowan, Richardson,
McRae Scott,
Merrick, Tooley,
Monk, Wigle—27.
The original Motion as amended, having been then put, was carried.
The Ninety-second Resolution, as amended, was then agreed to.
The Ninety-third Resolution, having been again read, was agreed to.
178 27™ FEBRUARY. 1877-
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into a Committee of Ways and
Means.
(In the Committee.) •
Resolved, That there be granted out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund of the Pro-
vince, a sum not exceeding Two millions six hundred and twenty-four thousand, six
hundred and two dollars and thirty-eight cents, to meet the supply to that amount
granted to Her Majesty.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had come to a Resolution.
Ordered, That the Report be received forthwith.
Mr. Clarke (Wellington), from the Committee of Ways and Means, reported the fol-
lowing Resolution : —
Resolved, That there be granted out of The Consolidated Revenue Fund of the Pro-
vince, a sum not exceeding Two millions six hundred and twenty-four thousand six
hundred and two dollars and thirty-eight cents, to meet the supply to that amount
granted to Her Majesty.
The Resolution, having been read a second time, was agreed to.
The following Bill was then introduced, and rrfad the first time :—
Bill (No. 124), intituled "An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of
money to defray the expenses of Civil Government for the year one thousand eight hun-
dred and seventy-seven, and to provide for certain sums expended for the Public Service
in the year 1875." — The Honourable Mr. Crooks.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The Amendments made in Committee on Bill (No. 88), To amend the Assessment
Act of 1869, having been read, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time at the First Sitting of this House
To-day.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 99), To amend the
Act respecting Building Societies ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker re-
sumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke ( Wellington) reported, That the Committee had made
some progress, and directed him to ask leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have lea ye to sit again at the First Sitting of this
House To-day.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 114), To amend
Chap. 2, 38 Vic., respecting the Readjustment of the Representation in the Legislative
Assembly ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr.
Clarke (Wellington], reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill
without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time at the First Sitting of this House
To-day.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by Command of the Lieutenant-
Governor : —
Papers and Correspondence relating to the following Railways : —North Simcoe Rail-
way, Hamilton and North Western Railway. (Sessional Papers, No. 41.)
Also : — Report of the Immigration Department by the Province of Ontario for the
year 1876. (Sessional Papers No. 51).
The House then adjourned at 1.10 A.M.
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Wednesday, 28th February, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
On motion of Mr. Robinson, seconded by Mr. Boulter ;
Resolved, That this House desires to express its regret at the loss sustained by the death
of Peter Graham, Esquire, Member for Frontenac, and of John Fleming, Esquire, Member
for South Waterloo, and this House unanimously recommends that the Accountant of this
House be authorized to transmit to their widows the Sessional allowances to which, but for
their death, they would have been entitled. This Resolution shall not be taken as a prece-
dent to authorize such payments in future.
Ordered, That the Accountant of this House do pay to the Widow of the late Peter
Graham, Esquire, Member for Frontenac, and to the Widow of the late John Fleming,
Esquire, Member for South Waterloo, their respective Sessional allowances, and mileage
in full for the present Session.
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 125), intituled " An Act to make verbal corrections in certain Acts of the
present Session." — The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time at the Second Sittings of the House
To-day.
The House again resolved itselfinto a Committee to consider Bill (No. 53), Respecting
the Toronto Street Railway Company ; and, after some ti ae spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee had
directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
The Honourable Mr. Cameron then moved, seconded by the Honourable Mr, McDougall,
That the Bill be not now read the third time, but be forthwith referred back to a Committee
of the Whole House, with instructions to strike out the amendment made in the preamble of
the Bill in the Committee.
And the Amendment, having been put, was carried on the following division :—
YEAS.
Messieurs
Appleby, Cole, McDougall (Middle- Mowat,
Baker, Greighton, sex); Preston,
Ballantyne, Deacon, McDougall (Simcoe),Richardson>
Barr, Deroche. McGowan, Rosevear,
Bell, Finlayson. McRae, Scott,
Bethune, Flesher, Massie, Sinclair,
Boulter, Graham, Meredith, Snetsinger,
Broder, Kean, Merrick, Springer,
Brown, Lane, Miller, Tooley,
Cameron, Lander, Monk, Wigle,
Clarke (Wellington), Ly on, Mostyn, Williams,
Code, Wilson — 45. <
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28TH FEBRUARY.
1877.
NAYS.
Messieurs
Baxter,
Bishop,
Bonfield,
Chisholm,
Clarke (Norfolk).
Coutts,
Crooks,
Currie,
Daivson,
Ferris,
Fraser,
Gibson,
Grange,
Grant,
Hardy,
Hargraft,
Harkin,
Hay,
Hunter,
Long,
McCraney,
McMahon,
O'Donoghue,
0' Sullivan,
Pardee,
Patterson (Essex),
Patterson (York),
Paxton,
Robinson,
Ross,
Sexton,
Striker,
Watterworth,
Widdifield,
Wills,
Wood— 36.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time spent
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had amended the Bill as instructed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 93), To amend the several Acts
respecting the Education Department, Public and High . Schools, and the University of
Toronto having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith referred to a
Committee of the whole House, with instructions to amend the same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time spent
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had amended the Bill as instructed. „
The Honourable Mr. Crooks then moved, That the Bill be now read the third time.
Mr. Code moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Wigle,
That all the words in the motion after " That " be struck out and the following in-
serted in lieu thereof, " the Bill be not now read the third time, but be forthwith referred
back to a Committee of the Whole House, with instructions to amend the same so as to
provide that the law shall remain as at present with regard to the aid which is required
to be given by County Councils towards High Schools."
And the Amendment, having been put, was lost on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Barr,
Baxter,
Bell,
Bethune,
Bishop,
Broder,
Appleby,
Baker,
Ballantyne,
Bonj
Boulter,
Code,
Coutts,
Graham,
Orange,
Kean,
McDougall (Mid-
dlesex),
McGowan,
McRae,
Preston,
Rosevear,
Scott,
Tooley,
Wigle,
Wills— 20.
NAYS.
Messieurs.
Cameron, Creighton,
Chisholm, Crooks,
Clarke (Norfolk), Currie,
Clarke ( Wellington), Dawson,
Cole, Deacon,
Deroche,
Ferris,
FMayson,
Flesher,
Fraser9
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Gribson, Lyon, O'Donoghue, Sinclair,
Grant, McCraney, Par dee, Snetsinger,
Hardy, Macdougall(Simcoe) Patterson (Essex), Springer,
Hargraft, McMahon, Patterson (York), Striker,
Harkin, Massie, Paxton, Watterworth,
Hay, Meredith, Richardson, Widdifield,
Hunter, Merrick, Robinson, Williams,
Lane, Miller, Ross, Wilson,
Lander, Mostyn, Sexton, Wood — 58.
Long, Mowat,
The original Motion, having been then put, was carried, and the Bill was read the third
time, and passed.
The following Bill was read the third time : —
Bill (No. 88), To amend the Assessment Act of 1869.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass, and be intituled " An Act to further amend the
Assessment Acts."
The Order of the Day for the Third Reading of Bill (No. 114), To amend cap. 2 38
Vic., respecting the Readjustment of the Representation in the Legislative Assembly, having
been read,
Mr. Widdifield moved,
That the Bill be now read the third time ;
And the Motion being put, was carried on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Appleby,
Crooks,
Lane,
Patterson (Essex),
Baker,
Dawson,
Long,
Patterson (York),
Ballantyne,
Deroche,
Lyon,
Paxton,
Barr,
Flesher,
McDougall (Mid-
Preston,
Baxter,
Fraser,
dlesex),
Robinson,
Bethune,
Graham,
McDougall (Simcoe)
,Sexton,
Bishop,
Grange,
McMahon,
Springer,
Bonfield,
Grant,
McRae,
Striker,
Chisholm,
Hardy,
Massie,
Tooley,
Clarke (Norfolk),
Harkin,
Miller,
Widdifield,
Code,
Hay,
Monk,
Wigle,
Cole,
Hunter,
Mostyn,
Williams,
Coutts,
Kean,
O'Donoghue,
Wilson— 51.
NAYS.
Messieurs
Bell,
Currie,
Merrick,
Scott,
Boulter,
Deacon,
Mowat,
Sinclair,
Broder,
Hargraft,
0' Sullivan,
Wills,
Cameron,
McGowan,
Pardee,
Wood— 19.
Creighton,
Meredith,
Richardson,
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House then adjourned at 6 P.M.
182 28TH FEBRUARY. 1877.
7. 30, P.M.
'The Honourable Mr. Wood presented to the House, by command of the Lieu tenant-
Governor : —
A Eeturn to an Address (in Session of 1875-6) to the Lieutenant-Go vernor, praying
that he will cause to be laid before the House, a Return from all the Municipalities in the
Province, in which Municipal Elections were held in January, 1876, of the extra cost of
holding the elections by reason of the Ballot Box Act, as applicable to Municipal Elec-
tions. (Sessional Papers, No. 52.)
Also — A Return to an Address to the Lieutenant-Governor, praying that he will
cause to be laid before the House, a Return showing the amount paid by the several
Cities, Towns, and Incorporated Villages, for Police service ; and also from the several
Counties, Cities, Towns, and Incorporated Villages, the several amounts paid to Con-
stables for the year 1875. (Sessional Papers, No. 53.)
Also — Report of the Provincial Secretary, on the workiug of the Tavern and Shop
License Act, for the year 1876. (Sessional Papers, No. 42.)
The House again resolved itseif into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 79), Respect-
ing the Territorial Districts of Muskoka, Parry Sound, and Thunder Bay, and the Provi-
sional County of Haliburton ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed
the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), reported, That the Committee had directed him
to report the Bill with certain amendments,
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time at the First Sittings of this House
To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 121), T(5 apply the Municipal Law to certain Townships in the District of
Nipissing.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole at the First Sittings of the House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 122), To amend the Acts relating to the Election of Members of the Legis-
lative Assembly.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House at the First Sittings of the House To-
morrow.
Bill (No. 124), For granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money to defray the
expenses of Civil Government for the year one thousand eight hundred and seventy-
seven, and to provide for certain sums expended for the Public Service in the year
1875.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time at the First Sittings of the House To-
morrow.
Bill (No. 89), To amend the Act respecting Jurors and Juries.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 87), To extend the Franchise
at Elections for the Legislative Assembly, so as to enable all male subjects of Her Majesty
of full age to vote at such Elections, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 90), To provide for the
Election of School Trustees by Ballot, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 105), To amend the law
for the Protection of Game and Fur-bearing Animals, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
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The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 106), To amend the Act
for the protection of Insectivorous and other Birds beneficial to Agriculture, having been
read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
On motion of Mr. Scott, seconded by Mr. Bell
Ordered, That there be laid before the House a copy of the correspondence relating
to the application of the Rev. /. W. R. Beck, for indemnity in respect of the purchase of
Lot No. 6, second broken front, concession of Haldimand. Also copy of so much of the
Return from the Crown Land Department to the Registrar of Northumberland, pursuant
to Con. Stat. U. C. Chap. 89, Sec. 80, as relates to the Lot,
On motion of Mr. Lauder, seconded by Mr. Scott,
Ordered, That the Eeturn of the Bursar of University College and Upper Canada
College presented to the House be referred to the Standing Committee on Public
Accounts.
On motion of Mr. Lauder, seconded by Mr. Scott,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, Statement showing all moneys which
have remained one year and upwards unclaimed in the Courts of Queen's Bench, Common
Pleas, the Court of Chancery, and Surrogate Courts in this Province, showing in detail
the names of the parties or causes to whose credit the said moneys are respectively
standing.
On motion of Mr. Clarke (Norfolk), seconded by Mr. McMahon,
Ordered, That the Eeport relative to the Division Courts of the Bounties of York and
Oxford, and the united Counties of Northumberland and Durham, be again referred to the
Committee on Printing, to consider the propriety of printing the same.
On motion of Mr. Massie, seconded by Mr. Graham,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House copies of all correspondence relative to the
Sunday Schools of this Province, and the supplying of them with books from the Educational
Depository.
Mr. Graham moved, seconded by Mr. Lane, That an humble Address be presented to
His Excellency the Governor-General, praying that His Excellency will, in due course,
cause to be laid before the Parliament of Canada, the desire of this House that the
British North American Act of 1867 may be so amended as to enable the Legislature of
the Province of Ontario to enact such laws as in their wisdom may seem necessary for the
regulation and partial or entire prohibition of the making and Vending of Vinous or
Spirituous Liquors in the Province of Ontario.
And a Debate having arisen, the Motion was, by leave of the House, withdrawn.
On motion of Mr. Lauder, seconded by Mr, Deacon,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return of the names of all Muni-
cipalities in arrears under the Municipal Loan Fund Settlement of 1873, showing amount
of instalments overdue by each Municipality, the several payments on account of any
overdue instalments, giving dates ; also, a Statement in detail of all debentures remain-
ing unsold under said settlement.
The House then adjourned at 10.40 P.M.
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•
Thursday, 1st March, 1877.
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally received and read :—
Of the County Council of the United Counties of Northumberland and Durham,
respecting the High School Act.
Of the County Council of the United Counties of Northumberland and Durham,
praying for certain amendments to the Municipal Act.
On motion of the Honourable Mr. Currie, seconded by Mr. Baxter,
Ordered. That the Accountant of this House do transmit to H. M. Haney, Esquire,
the Member for Monck, his full Sessional Allowance, with mileage, without deducting
therefrom any portion thereof on account of his absence from this Chamber, caused by his
illness.
The following Bill was read the third time and passed : —
Bill (No. 124), For granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money to defray the
expenses of Civil Government for the year one thousand eight hundred and seventy-
seven, and to provide for certain sums expended for the Public Service in the year 1875.
The following Bill was read the Third time : —
Bill (No. 79), Respecting the Territorial Districts of Muskoka, Parry Sound and
Thunder Bay, and the Provisional County of Haliburton.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass, and be intituled " An Act respecting the Territorial
and Temporary Judicial Districts of the Province, and the Provisional County of Bali
burton"
The House resolved itself into a Committee severally to consider the following
Bills :—
Bill (No. 69), Respecting the Revised Statutes of Ontario.
Bill (No. Ill), To provide for certain amendments and additions to the Statutes of
the Province, as Consolidated by the Commissioners appointed for that purpose.
Bill (No. 112), To provide for certain Amendments of the Law.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the several Bills with certain amendments.
The Amendments having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That Bills (No. 69), Respecting the Revised Statutes of Ontario, and Bill
(No. Ill), To provide for certain amendments and additions to the Statutes of the Pro-
vince, as Consolidated by the Commissioners appointed for that purpose, be now read the
third time.
The Bills were then severally read'the third time, and passed.
The Honourable Attorney -General Mowat then moved, That Bill (No. 112), To pro-
videfor certain Amendments of the Law, be now read the third time.
Mr. Creighton moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Broder,
That all the words in the motion after " That" be struck out, and the following in-
serted in lieu thereof, " the Bill be not now read the Third time, but be forthwith referred
back to a Committee of the Whole House to add a clause providing that no License,
under any Act respecting the sale of Spirituous or Fermented Liquors, shall be granted to
or held by any person filling the office of License Commissioner or Inspector, or in which,
40 Vic. IST MAECH. 185
he, or they, may be interested, either directly, or through a partner, or for any house
owned by such License Commissioner, or Inspector, and any license so issued shall be
void."
And a Debate having arisen,
Ordered, That the Debate be adjourned.
The House then adjourned at 6 P.M.
7.30, P.M.
On motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honourable
Mr. Crooks,
Ordered, That there shall be, on Friday next, three separate Sittings of this House —
the First Sitting to be from 11 o'clock, A.M., until 1.30, P.M. ; the other two Sittings as
already ordered.
The Order of the Day for resuming the adjourned Debate on the propoied Amend-
ment to the Motion for the third reading of Bill (No. 112), To provide for certain Amend-
ments to the Law having been read,
The Debate was resumed.
Mr. Meredith moved in amendment to the proposed Amendment, seconded by Mr.
Scott,
That all the words in the proposed amendment, after i: providing," be struck out,
and the following be substituted therefor : — " that a License shall not be granted under
the provisions of any Act respecting the sale of Spirituous or Fermented Liquors, to, or
for the benefit of any person who is a License Commissioner, or License Inspector, and
every License so issued shall be void. A License shall not, after the first day of July next, be
issued under the provisions of any of the said Acts for premises within any License District of
which any of the License Commissioners, or the License Inspector for such District, shall
be the owner, and every License Commissioner who shall, after that day, knowingly issue,
and every License Inspector who shall, after that day, knowingly recommend the issue of a
license for any such premises, contrary to the provisions of this section, shall incur a pen-
alty of Five hundred dollars.
"Such provisions shall not extend or apply to premises owned or occupied by a Joint
Stock Company in which a License Commissioner is a shareholder ; but in every such
case the License Commissioner shall not, after the first day of July next, under a pen-
alty of five hundred dollars, vote upon any question affecting the granting of a licence to
the Company, or for premises owned or occupied by it."
And the Amendment to the Amendment, having been put, was carried.
The original Motion as amended, having been then put, was carried \ and the
House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Com-
mittee had amended the Bill as instructed.
The Honourable Mr. McDougall then moved, seconded by Mr. Scott,
That the Bill be forthwith referred to a Committee of the Whole House with instruc-
tions to amend the same by inserting the following as clause 77 : —
" Barristers may sue for, and recover fees for services subject to taxation by the
proper Court, and subject to the same liabilities for negligence or non-performance of
contract as Solicitors and Attorneys."
And the Amendment, having been put, was lost on a division.
Ordered, That the Bill be now read the third time.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 121), To apply the
Municipal Law to certain Townships in the District of Nipissing ; and, after some time
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IST MARCH.
1877.
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported,
That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 122), To amend the
A cts relating to the Election of Members of the Legislative Assembly; and, after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported
That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
The Honourable Attorney-General Mowat then moved,
That the Bill be now read the third time.
The Honourable Mr. Cameron moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Meredith,
That all the words in the motion after " That " be struck out, and the following in-
serted in lieu thereof : " the Bill be not now read the third time, but be forthwith
referred back to the Committee of the Whole House, with instructions to insert after
clause four the following —
" 4 (a) Section nine of the said Act is hereby amended by striking out all alter the
word " aforesaid " in the last line but one, to the end of said section, and substituting the
following, " and no question as to qualification or right to vote of any person named on
such Voters' List, certified and delivered or transmitted as aforesaid, shall be raised in
any Election Petition or on the trial of any Controverted Elections."
And the Amendment, having been put, was lost m the following division : —
YEAS
Messieurs
Barr,
Bell,
Boulter,
Brown,
Cameron,
Code,
Coutts,
Creighton,
Deacon,
Flesher,
Grange,
Harkin,
Hodgins,
Kean,
Long,
McDougall (Middle-0' Sullivan,
sex), Patterson (Essex),
McDougall (Simcoe), Preston,
McGowan, Richardson,
McRae, Rosevear,
Meredith, Scott,
Merrick, Tooley,
Monk, Wills.— 30.
NAYS
Messieurs
Appleby,
Ballantyne,
Baxter,
Bishop,
Bonfield,
Chisholm,
Currie,
Dawson,
Deroche,
Ferris,
Finlayson,
Gibson,
Clarice (Norfolk), Graham,
Clarke (Wellington), Grant,
Cole, Hardy,
Crooks, Hargraft,
Hunter,
Lane,
Lyon,
McCraney,
McMahon,
Massie,
Miller,
Mowat,
O'Donoghue,
Pardee,
Ross,
Sexton,
Sinclair,
Springer,
Striker,
Watterworth,
Widdifield,
Williams,
Wilson,
Wood.— 40.
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IST MARCH.
187
Mr. Meredith then moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Deacon,
That all the words in the motion after " That " be struck out, and the following
inserted in lieu thereof : " the Bill be not now read the third time, but be referred back
to a Committee of the Whole House forthwith, with instructions to insert the following
as a new section : " The right of voting in respect of income shall not depend upon the
payment of the Municipal Tax on such income by the 31st day of December next before
the election, or any other day mentioned in the Election Act, except with respect to voters
in Municipalities in which the Council shall so provide by by-law passed at least on«
month before the issue of the Writ for the holding of the election.' ';
And the Amendment, having been put, was lost on the following division : —
YEAS.
Messieurs
Deacon, Meredith,
McDougall (Mid- O'Donoghue,
dlesex),
O'Sullivan, Scott,
Patterson (Essex), Wills — 8.
NAYS.
Messieurs
Appleby,
Ballantyne,
ftarr.
Baxter,
Bell,
Bishop,
Bonfield,
Bouiter,
Brovm,
Cameron,
Chisholm,
Clarke (Norfolk},
Creighton,
Crooks,
Dawson,
Deroche,
Ferris,
Finlayson,
Flesher,
Gibson,
Graham,
Grange,
Grant,
Hardy,
Hunter,
Kean,
Lane,
Long
Lyon,
McCraney,
Pardee,
Preston,
Richardson*
Rosevear,
Ross,
Sexton,
McDougall (Simcoe), Sinclair,
McGowan, Springer,
McMahon, Striker,
McRae, Tooley,
Massie, Watterworth,
Merrick, Widdifield,
Miller, Williams,
Monk, Wilson,
Mowat, Wood— 61.
Clarke (Wellington), Har graft
Code, Harkin,
Cole, Hodgins
Coutts,
The original Motion, having been then put, was carried ; and the Bill was read the
the third time, and passed.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 77), To extend the Voters
Lists Act to Municipal Elections having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith referred
back to a Committee of the Whole House, with instructions to amend the same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported,
That the Committee had amended the Bill as instructed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The following Bills were severally read the second time, reported with certain
amendments, read the third time, and passed : —
Bill (No. 123), Respecting Aid to certain Railways, and the creation of a Railway
Subsidy Fund.
Bill (No. 125), To make verbal corrections in certain Acts of the present Session.
188 IST AND 2ND MARCH. 1877.
The Order of the Day for the House to resolve itself into'a Committee to consider
Bill (No. 115), For establishing a Superannuation and Benefit Fund for Police in Cities,
having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 120), To amend the Tem-
perance Act of 1864, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The House again resolved itself into a Commit:ee to consider Bill (No. 99), To
amend the Acts respecting Building Societies ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke ( Wellington), reported, That the Committee
had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, that the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to Consider Bill (No. 118), Respecting
Municipal Institutions ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the
Chair; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committe had directed him to
report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 107), Respecting
the Drainage of certain lands by Municipalities, and to amend an Act respecting Muni
cipal Institutions in the Province of Ontario ; and, after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Clarke (Wellington), reported, That the Committee
had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 96), To extend the Rights
and Remedies of Mechanics and others entitled to Liens on Chattels, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
On Motion of the Honourable Attorney-General Mowat, seconded by the Honour-
able Mr. Crooks,
Resolved, That when this House adjourns, it do stand adjourned until two of the
clock To-morrow.
The House then adjourned at 10. 20, P.M.
Friday, 2nd March, 1877.
2 O'CLOCK P.M.
Mr. Speaker laid before the He use : —
Statement of the affairs of the Toronto House Building Association for the year 1876.
(fieisional Papers, No. 54.)
Mr. Clarke (Wellington), from the Committee on Printing, presented their Fifth Re-
port, which was read as follows : —
The Committee recommend that the following documents be printed : —
Report of the Provincial Secretary on the working of the Tavern and Shop License
Acts. (Sessional Papers No. 42.)
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Report of the Immigration Department for 1876. (Sessional Papers, No. 51.)
Report on the Municipal Loan Fund Surplus Distribution. (Sessional Papers, No. 10.)
Report of Commission of Agriculture on the Products and Manufactures of Ontario,
exhibited at the Philadelphia Exhibition. (Sessional Papers, No. 33.)
Return from Division Courts of York, Oxford, Northumberland and Durham, from 1st
October, 1875, to 31st March, 1876. (Sessional Papers, No. 34.)
Return of the Coroner's Inquisition, and of the Jury, in the case of James Skye, and
others, together with any reports of the Central Prison Surgeon thereon. (Sessional Payers,
No. 48.)
Returns of all Fees and Emoluments received by the Registrars of Ontario for 1876.
(Sessional Papers, No. 49.)
Return showing the amount paid for Police Service in Counties, Cities, Towns and
Villages, for 1875. (Sessional Papers, No. 53.)
The Committee recommend that the following documents be not printed : —
Municipal statistics for the Province of Ontario for 1875. (Sessional Papers, No. 50.)
Return from the Municipalities of the extra cost of holding elections by reason of the
Ballot Act, in 1876. (Sessional Papers, No. 52.)
The Committee recommend that three copies of the Consolidated Statutes be sup-
plied to each member of the Ontario Legislature.
The Committee having further considered the recommendation concerning the distri-
bution of Ontario Statutes contained in their Fourth Report, are of opinion that five
copies only of the Statutes of the 34th, 38th and 39th Victoria, can be furnished to each
member, and that the remaining copies for other years ought to be retained, and disposed
of in the usual manner.
Resolved, That the House doth concur in the Fourth and Fifth Reports of the Com-
mittee on Printing, with the exception of so much of the Fourth Report- as refers to the
distribution of the Statutes of Ontario.
The Honourable Mr. Wood presented the House, by command of the lieutenant-
Governor : —
Annual Report of the Commissioner of Agriculture and Arts for the year 1876.
(Sessional Papers, No. 4.)
Also : — Return, in obedience to an Order of the House, of copies of all correspond-
ence relating to the Sunday-Schools of the Province, and the supplying them with books
from the Educational Depository. (Sessional Papers, No. 55.)
Also : — Statement, in obedience to an Order of the House, of all estates, moneys and
properties which have come into the hands of the Government, or of the Inspector of
Asylums and Prisons, belonging to the inmates of the various Asylums of the Province,
giving the names of the parties ; also the dates of receipts of money in detail, showing
also where such moneys are deposited, and to what credit. (Sessional Papers, No. 56.)
3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The Honourable Donald Alexander McDonald, Lieutenant-Government of the Province
of Ontario, being seated on the Throne, was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the
Royal Assent to the following Bills : —
An Act to incorporate The William Hall Peterborough Protestant Poor Trust.
An Act to amend the Water Works Acts of the City of Ottawa.
An Act respecting By-law No. 240 of the Town of Windsor.
An Act to authorize the Town of Dundas to pass a By-law exempting the Canada,
Screw Company from Taxes.
An Act to extend and define the Limits of the Town of Orillia.
An Act respecting the Toronto, Grey and Brace Railway Company.
An Act respecting St. Paul's Church, Toronto.
190 2ND MARCH. 1877.
An Act to amend the Acts relating to the Whitby and Port Perry Extension Railway
Company.
An Act respecting St. John's Church, Iroquois.
An Act to authorize the Synod of the Diocese of Huron to sell certain lands in the
Township of Wanvick.
An Act to amend the Act incorporating the Upper Canada Bible Society.
An Act to alter and amend the survey of the lands of the Canada Company in the
Townships of Bosanquet and McGillivray.
An Act respecting the Stratford and Huron Railway.
An Act respecting St. Paul's Church in the Village of Almonte.
An Act respecting the Village of Port Elgin.
An Act respecting the Roman Catholic Episcopal Corporation of the Diocese of
Hamilton.
An Act respecting the North Simcoe Railway Company.
An Act relating to St. Mark's Church, Niagara.
An Act to legalize a survey in the Township of Matilda.
An Act respecting the Port Dover and Lake Huron Railway Company.
An Act to incorporate the Metropolitan Street Railway Company of Toronto.
An Act to incorporate Alma College at St. Thomas.
An Act to incorporate the Standard Fire Insurance Company.
An Act Tor the incorporation of the Town of Belleville as a City, and for the Con-
solidation of the debt thereof.
An Act to incorporate the Ontario Missionary Society of the Methodist Episcopal
Church in Canada.
• An Act for the incorporation of the Conference of the Christian Church in Canada.
An Act respecting the Church of St. Alban the Martyr, in Ottawa.
An Act to amend the Act of incorporation of the Canadian Literary Institute of
Woodstock.
An Act respecting the Municipality of Shuniah.
An Act to incorporate the People's Gas Company.
An Act to incorporate Trinity Medical College.
An Act to incorporate the Leamington, Comber and Lake St. Clair Railway Company.
An Act respecting the Credit Valley Railway Company.
An Act to incorporate the Niagara and St. Catharines Railroad and Steamboat Com-
pany.
An Act to incorporate the City of Brantford.
An Act to enable the Synod of Niagara to sell certain lands in Arthur.
An Act to legalize a By-law of the County of Simcoe.
An Act relating to the Hamilton and North-Western Railway Company.
An Act respecting St. Paul's Church at Newmarket.
An Act to incorporate the Guelph Street Railway Company.
An Act respecting the Toronto Street Railway Company.
An Act for the admission of William E. Idsardi as a Provincial Land Surveyor.
An Act respecting the Cobourg, Peterborough and Marmora Railway and Mining
Company.
An Act respecting the City of Toronto, the Toronto Water Works and other matters.
An Act to enable the Corporation of Cobourg to aid certain Manufacturing Establish-
ments.
An Act respecting the St. Catharines Street Railway Company.
An Act respecting the Bothwdl (C. W.) Land and Petroleum Company.
An Act to consolidate the debt of the Port Hope Harbour.
- An Act respecting the Huron and Quebec Railway Company.
An Act respecting the Presbyterian Church at Orillia.
An Act to legalize a certain by-law, and certain debentures of the City of Toronto.
An Act respecting the Pickering Harbour, and Road Joint Stock Company.
An Act to amend the law respecting Escheats and Forfeitures.
An Act to amend and repeal certain enactments of tiie last Session of the Legisla-
ture of this Province.
An Act respecting the Revised Statutes of Ontario.
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An Act respecting references to the Supreme Court of Canada, and the Exchequer
Court of Canada, in certain cases.
An Act respecting the Municipality of Sault Ste. Marie.
An Act to amend the Act respecting Dentistry.
An Act to incorporate the Industrial Exhibition Company.
An Act to extend the Voters' Lists Act to Municipal Elections.
An Act respecting the temporary Judicial and Territorial Districts of the Province,
and the Provisional County of Haliburton.
An Act for the encouragement of Agriculture, Horticulture, Arts and Manufactures.
An Act respecting payment to unorganized Townships or parts of Districts, under
the Municipal Loan Fund scheme.
An Act to amend the Acts respecting the sale of Fermented or Spirituous Liquors.
An Act respecting the Peel General Manufacturing Company.
An Act to empower the Council of the Municipality of the Township nf Adelaide
to sell certain lands.
An Act to amend the several Acts respecting the Education Department, Public
and High Schools, and the University of Toronto.
An Act to amend the Assessment Act of 1869.
An Act to amend the Act respecting Line Fences.
An Act respecting Mortgages and sales of Personal Property.
An Act respecting the Free Grants and Homestead Act of 1868.
An Act respecting the County Court, General Sessions of the Peace, and Surrogate
Court of the County of York.
An Act to give the right of Voting to Farmers' Sons, in certain cases.
An Act respecting Constables.
An Act respecting the administration of Estates of Intestates dying without known
relatives in Ontario.
An Act to provide for certain amendments and additions to the Statu-tes of the Pro-
vince as Consolidated by the Commissioners appointed for that purpose.
An Act to provide for certain amendments to the Law.
An Act to provide for the erection of a Court House in the City of Hamilton.
An Act to apply the Municipal Law to certain Townships in the District of Nipissing.
An Act to amend the Acts relating to the Election of Members of the Legislative
Assembly.
An Act respecting aid to certain Railways, and the creation of a Railway Laud Sub-
sidy Fund.
An Act to make verbal corrections in certain Acts of the present Session.
An Act to further amend the Assessment Acts.
An Act to amend chapter 2, 38th Vic., respecting the re-adjustment of the repre-
sentation in the Legislative Assembly.
An Act to amend the Acts respecting Building Societies.
An Act respecting Municipal Institutions.
An Act respecting the Drainage of certain lands by Municipalities, and to amend an
Act respecting Municipal Institutions in the Province of Ontario.
To these Bills the Royal Assent was announced by the Clerk of the House as follows : —
" In Her Majesty's name the Lieutenant-Governor doth Assent to these Bills."
Mr. SPEAKER then said : —
May it please your Excellency ; —
We, Her Majesty's most dutiful and faithful subjects, the Legislative Assembly of the
Province of Ontario, in Session assembled, approach Your Excellency at the close
of our labours with sentiments of unfeigned devotion and loyalty to Her Majesty's person
and Government, and humbly beg to present for Your Excellency's acceptance a Bill
intituled " An Act lor granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money to defray the
expenses of Civil Government tor the year 1877, and to provide for certain sums expended
for the Public Service in the year 1875," thus placing at the disposal of the Crown the
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means by which the Government may be made efficient for the service and welfare of the
Province.
To this Bill, the Clerk of the House, by command of the Lieutenant-Go vernor, did say : —
" The Lieutenant-Governor doth thank Her Majesty's dutiful and loyal subjects, accept
their benevolence, and assent to this Bill, in Her Majesty's name."
The LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR was then pleased to deliver the following Speech : —
Gentlemen of the Legislative Assembly : —
It is now my pleasing duty to relieve you from the labours of the Session, and
to thank you for your assiduous attention to, and careful consideration of, the various
measures which at the opening of the Session I thought fit to bring to your notice.
The results of your work cannot fail to have a beneficial influence in the promotion
of the best interests of the Province ; and the measures that you have passed indicate
emphatically the valuable functions of the Local Legislature, which brings so much
prudence and knowledge to bear upon questions materially affecting the welfare of
the people of Ontario.
The body of Statute Law which you have revised will, within a short period, be issued
in as perfect a form as is possible ; and I have to congratulate you on the completion
of a work which is of the utmost importance to our whole community. All concerned
with public, municipal, legal or educational affairs, will in future be able to readily inform
themselves on the subjects of law provided for by these statutes.
The amendments which you have made in the law respecting the sale of fermented
and spirituous liquors will, I trust, promote the more efficient administration of that
law, and tend to diminish the evil of intemperance, which has so baneful an effect upon
the progress and civilization of our country.
The important improvements made by the Act respecting Education, will, doubtless,
conduce to perpetuate and encourage the beneficial influence of education upon the whole
youth of the Province.
You have shown your appreciation of the value of Railway facilities in increasing the
material prosperity of the Province, by your prudent consideration of applications made
for aid from Provincial sources, and by your recognition of those Railways whose con-
struction will encourage the settlement of the large area of Provincial territory which is
still unoccupied.
I am glad that you have not overlooked the claims upon our humanity, which
required further provision for the accommodation of those classes who are unfortunately
unable to care for themselves ; and I am pleased to find that my recommendations on
this subject have been so well carried out by you.
The extension of the franchise to the sons of farmers will remove some prevalent
abuses, as well as infuse a further element of patriotism into the consideration of public
affairs.
I perceive with satisfaction that you have not overlooked the important bearing
which the pursuits of agriculture, and of the different arts, have upon the progress of the
Province.
I have to congratulate you on the other important measures to which I have given my
sanction.
I thank you for the supplies which have been granted for the service of the current
year, and which it will be my duty to see applied with due economy, having regard to the
efficiency of the public service.
The Honourable Mr. Fraser, Commissioner of Public Works, then said : —
Mr. Speaker and Gentlemen of th« Legislative Assembly : —
It is the Lieutenant-Governor's will and pleasure that this Legislative Assembly be
prorogued until Wednesday, the Fourteenth day of April next, to be then here holden ;
and this Legislative Assembly is accordingly prorogued until Wednesday, the Fourte«nth
day of April next.
APPENDIX.
No. 1. — Reports of the Committee on Public Accounts, in Sessions of 1875-6
and 1877.
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EEPOET
OF THE
COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ACCOUNTS,
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario.
The Standing Committee on Public Accounts beg leave to present the following as
their
FIRST REPORT.
Your Committee report that at its Session of To-day (18th January, 1876), the fol-
lowing Resolution was adopted : " That inasmuch as some of the members of the Committee
have met on three or four occasions, but have been unable to proceed, the quorum being
fixed at the number of nine, and that number not being present, it is, therefore, resolved,
That the Chairman be requested to ask the House to reduce the number necessary to form
a quorum, to the number of seven." Your Committee therefore recommend its confirma-
tion by your Honourable House.
All which is respectfully submitted,
PETER Gow,
Committee Room, Chairman.
18th January, 1876.
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario.
The Standing Committee to whom was referred the consideration of the Public Ac-
counts beg leave to present the following as their
SECOND REPORT.
Your Committee have thoroughly examined the Public Accounts for the year ending
31st December, 1874, and made special enquiry into those in connection with the Cen-
tral Prison and Colonization Roads ; they have carefully compared the whole of the
vouchers in these matters, and taken evidence upon such points as they deemed necessary,
and submit it, with a record of their minutes of proceedings.
Your Committee were unable to make a complete investigation into the Public Ac-
counts of 1875, as the statement laid before them was for nine months of the year, and
was not in detailed form. This arises from the fact that it is impossible to bring down
the detailed statement for the year until the month of February, or at a time when the
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labours of the Session are generally closed. To obviate this difficulty the Committee re-
commend for the consideration of the Legislature such a change in the Financial year as
would cause it to commence on the first day of July and close on the thirtieth day of June
in each year. A temporary inconvenience would arise from this alternative, but the in
creased facility for investigation of matters still fresh in the public mind would more that
counterbalance it, and in the opinion of the Committee warrant the proposed change.
Your Committee find that, wherever practicable, the system of tender and contract
has been fully carried out, and that where it was impossible to adopt it, a strict supervi
sion has been exercised over expenditure.
All which is respectfully submitted,
PETER Gow,
Committee Room, Chairman.
4th Feby., 1876.
SELECT STANDING COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ACCOUNTS.
1875-6.
FIRST SESSION SRD PARLIAMENT OF ONTARIO.
TREASURER'S OFFICE, Friday, 10th Dec., 1875.
The Select Standing Committee to whom was referred the consideration of the Public
Accounts, and being composed of, Hon. Messrs. Cameron, Crooks, Gow, Macdougall,
Wood, Messrs. Boulter, Clark (Wellington), Deacon, Ferris, Gibson, Hardy, Hay, Lauder,
Merrick, Meredith, Ross, Striker — 17. — Met for organization.
Present :
Hon. Messrs. Crooks, Hon. Messrs. Gow,
" Macdougall, Messrs. Boulter,
Messrs. Gibson, " Ferris,
Ross, •« Hardy,
" Deacon, " Striker— 11
Clark (Wellington.)
On motion of Mr. Gibson, seconded by Mr. Hardy, Hon. Mr. Gow was unanimously
elected chairman of the Committee.
After an explanation by Hon. Mr. Crooks as to the system of examining the accounts
by this Committee heretofore, the Committee adjourned until Tuesday, 14th December, at
11 o'clock, A.M.
PETER Gow,
Chairman.
TREASURER'S OFFICE, Tuesday, 14th Dec., 11-15 A.M.
Committee met.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow, Chairman, Hon. Messrs. Crooks and Wood,
Messrs. Boulter, Messrs. Lauder,
" Clarke, Merrick,
" Deacon, " Meredith,
" Ferris, " Ross,
" Gibson, " Striker— 14.
" Hay,
The Public Accounts for the nine months ending 30th Sept., 1875, were laid before
the Committee. Also the Public Accounts for the year 1874.
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The Committee proceeded to the consideration of the accounts for 1874, and the
papers were called for in the following items : —
CIVIL GOVERNMENT. — GOVERNMENT HOUSE.
Page 30. — H. W. Refiel, Valuating Furniture $61 15
CONTINGENCIES.
Page 31, — Cost of maintenance of East Wing, including repairs.... $4,093 20
REGISTRAR-GENERAL'S BRANCH.
Page 32. — Hon. A. Crooks, to pay salaries of District Registrars... $3,750 00
" To pay disbursements, do 22363
MISCELLANEOUS.
Page 35.— Gratuities — All papers asked for $2,533 33
INSPECTION OF DIVISION COURTS.
" " Joseph Dickey, Travelling Expenses $467 18
INSPECTION OF COUNTY OFFICES.
" " M. B. Jackson, Travelling Expenses $118 93
LEGISLATION. — REPAIRS.
" 36.— P. Burns, Fuel $1,961 13
George Evans, Tinsmithing, &c , 281 03
J. Ritchie & Sons, Plumbing, &c 473 70
" 37.— R. Hay & Co., A Furniture 783 69
Hy. Graham & Co., Carpeting 305 53
J. Edwards, Furnishing 240 30
Dickey, Neil & Co 120 20
SESSIONAL WRITERS, MESSENGERS AND PAGES.
" 39.— Thos. Phillips, To pay Dusters $210 00
STATIONERY, INCLUDING PRINTING PAPER, &c.
J. Barber, Printing Paper $10,132 00
" " John Notman, Stationery — House Supply 1,564 16
EXPENSES OF ELECTIONS.
" " Judge Boyd, Disbursements in re Voters Lists trials $6000
LIBRARY.
" " Sundry Persons, Supplies $3,346 27
The Librarian was ordered to be notified to appear before the Committee to explain
these items.
EXPENSES OF SBCOND SESSION, 1874.
SESSIONAL WRITERS, MESSENGERS AND PAGES.
Page 41.— Thos. Phillips, To pay Dusters, dec $122 50
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POSTAGES AND COST OF HOUSE POST OFFICE.
" « Joseph Leslie, Postage $397 45
STATIONERY, INCLUDING PRINTING, &c.
" " John Notman, Stationery — House Supply $1,56538
Mr. Notman, Accountant, was ordered to be notified to appear before the Committee
to explain these items for Stationery.
Page 42.— Contingencies $3,131 27
Col. Gillmor was ordered to be notified to appear before the Committee to explain
these items.
ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE.
Page 45, 46, 47. — Crown Criminal Prosecution $1 09,434 64
All papers ordered to be produced under this head.
Page 48. — Thos. Short, Expenses, retransfer of Prisoners to Central
Prison $2,306 94.
" " Special Services — J. W. Murray, Services 150 00
MISCELLANEOUS JUSTICE.
District of Algoma.
Page 49— Eichard Carney, twelvemonth's salary as Sheriff $1,400 00
" " J. M. Hamilton, do do Clerk of the Peace. 800 00
" " J. M. Savage, do do Eegistrar 80000
" " James Bennetts, do do Clerk of District
Court 500 00
" " Richard Carney, .Re Administration of Justice.. 3,028 68
" " Mrs. J. M. Hamilton, services 100 00
The Hon. the Treasurer said that Mr. Totten would come before the Committee and
explain these items.
District of Thunder Bay.
Page 49. — D. D. VanNorman, twelve month's salary as Stipendiary
Magistrate $1,200 00
" " D. D. VanNorman, jRejadministration of Justice. 1,385 16
John Jilles, maintenance of prisoners 157 50
«
District of Nipissing.
Page 49. — John Doran, twelve month's salary as Stipendiary Magistrate 1,400 00
" " do ^administration of Justice 49380
District of Parry Sound.
Page 50. — P. McCurry, twelve month's salary as Stipendiary Magis-
trate 1,200 00
" " P. McCurry, Re Administration of Justice 533 24
District of Muskoka.
Page 50. — C. W. Lount, twelve month's salary as Stipendiary Magis-
trate 1,000 00
" " C, W. Lount, Re Administration of Justice 590 47
Light, Fuel, Furniture, etc., Osgoode Hall.
Page 51.— K. Hay & Co., Furniture ,... 774 70
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EDUCATION.
County Examination of Teachers.
Page 52. — Sundry items, services, &c $1,201 92
Museum.
Pages 53, 54, 55, 56.— Sundry items ... 3,894 21
" Maps, Apparatus, Library and Prize Books... 49,978 28
IMMIGRATION.
Page 59.— Agencies in Europe * 32,475 38
'• 60 & 61.— Agencies in Ontario and Quebec, 18,464 70
" 61 & 62.— Carriage of Immigrants , 34,535 48
Assistance to Immigrants . 46,532 79
Incidentals 2,642 31
Page 63.— Total $134,640 66
AGRICULTURE, ARTS, LITERARY AND SCIENTIFIC INSTITUTIONS.
Grant to Agricultural Societies.
Page 65. — S. H. Mills, allowance to Hamilton Horticultural Society $140 00
MISCELLANEOUS.
Page 68.— L. W. Ord, services 1,064 14
" " Hon. A. Crooks, travelling expenses 1,150 00
" " L. W. Ord do 323 50
« " W.E. Harris, do 1500
" " Thos. Langton, services on Consolidation Statutes 800 00
PUBLIC BUILDINGS.
Toronto I/unatic Asylum.
Page 70.— Dickey, Neil & Co., furnishings *... 355,09
London Lunatic Asylum.
Page 70. — Wright & Durand, on account of contract. 14,459 55
« « J. C. Dodd & Son, do do 76240
" 71.— R Hay & Co., Furniture 1,833 75
" " Manufacturing Co., Geo. Morehead, Furniture 156 50
'• " H. C. Greene, Lumber 732 56
" " M. Knowlton do 28687
" " Thos, Browne, Boilers 957 00
" " Pay Lists, men employed 1,37749
Inebriate Asylum, Hamilton.
Page 71. — D. Nicholson, on account of contract.... - 23,030 00
" " F. P. O'Callaghan, services as clerk of works 743 00
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Central Prison, Toronto.
Pages 72, 73, 74.— Sundry Items $102,059 24
All papers asked for under this head.
Deaf and Dumb Institute, Belleville.
Page 74. — D. S. Keith, on account of contract 2,638 15
" " Beardmore & Co., Leather 565 73
Committee adjourned at 12.40 o'clock, until to-morrow, Wednesday, 15th Dec., at
11 o'clock, A.M.
PETER Gow,
Chairman.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
WEDNESDAY, 15TH DEC., 1875, 11.25 A.M.
, Committee met.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow, Chairman. Messrs. Ferris,
Crooks, " Gibson,
" Macdougall, " Lauder,
" Wood, " Merrick,
Messrs. Boulter, " Ross,
" Clarke, " Striker,
" Deacon, " Hay.— 14.
Papers, accounts, and vouchers were produced in the following items, being a portion
of those called for at the previous meeting.
CIVIL GOVERNMENT.
Govtrnment House.
Page 30.— H. W. Reffel, valuating furniture $61 15
Mr. Tully appeared at the request of the Committee and explained that this item was
for valuating the furniture for the purpose of insurance, as well as that the Department
might have an inventory so as to know exactly what belonged to them. The inventory
was made in all the different departments as well.
SECRETARY AND REGISTRAR'S OFFICE.
Registrar-General's Branch.
Page 32. — Hon. A. Crooks, to pay salaries of District Registrars $3,750 00
" " Do. do. disbursements do 223 63
MISCELLANEOUS.
Gratuities.
" 35. — E. S. Wiggins, on retiring from Institution for the Blind,
Brantford 1,000 00
" " H. McCandless, on retiring from School of Agriculture,
Guelph 1,000 00
" " R. M. Wilson, on retiring from Treasury Department 275 00
" " W. R. Nursey, do. do. do 20000
" " D. C. A. Del Hoste, on retiring from Registrar-General's
Department 58 33
Total $2,533 33
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INSPECTION OF DIVISION COURTS.
" " Jos. Dickey, Travelling Expenses , $467 18
INSPECTION OF COUNTY COURTS.
" " Jos. B. Jackson, Travelling Expenses 118 93
LEGISLATION.
Repairs.
i( 36.— P. Burns, Fuel 1,961 13
Tenders were here produced, and they showed that the tender of Mr. Burns was the
lowest —
Page 36.— George Evans, Tinsmithing, &c $281 03
" " J. Ritchie & Son, Plumbing, &c 473 70
" 37.— R. Hay & Co., Furniture 783 69
As the Committee wished to further investigate this last item, it was allowed to
remain over until next meeting of the Committee.
The Committee adjourned at 1.10 P.M., until to-morrow, Thursday, 16th December,
at 11 A.M.
Chairman.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
THURSDAY, 1 6th December, 1875, 11.15 o'clock, A.M.
Committee met.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow, Chairman, Messrs. Gibson,
Hon. Messrs. Crooks & Wood, Hay,
Messrs. Boulter, Merrick,
Clarke, Meredith,
Deacon, Ross,
Ferris, Striker— 13.
Considered. — Account, Messrs. R. Hay & Co., (allowed to stand over at last meeting)
for furniture, &c., supplied to the Hon. the Speaker's rooms.
Committee ordered, That Mr. Hay's chief salesman be notified to appear at next
meeting of Committe, to explain this account.
Papers were produced by Mr. Harris, Accountant Treasury Department, on the follow-
ing items, called for at a previous meeting of Committee ; papers were examined, and
items passed.
CIVIL GOVERNMENT— LEGISLATION.
Repairs.
Page 37.— Henry Graham & Co., Carpeting $305 53
" " J. Edwards, Furnishings 240 30
" 39. — Sessional Writers, Messengers and Pages — Thomas Philips,
to pay dusters 210 00
EXPENSES OF ELECTIONS.
" " Judge Boyd, Disbursements in re Voters Lists 60 00
Committee adjourned at 12.33 o'Clock, until to-morrow, Friday, 17th December, at
11 o'clock, A.M.
PETER Ctow,
Chairman.
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TREASURER'S OFFICE,
FRIDAY, 17th December, 1875, 11.20 o'clock, A.M.
Committee met.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow, Chairman, Messrs. Gibson,
Hon. Messrs. Crooks, Macdougall, &Wood, Ferris,
Messrs. Boulter, Hay,
Clarke (Wellinton), Ross,
Deacon, Striker — 12.
The following items allowed to stand over from previous meeting were considered, all
the papers were produced, and the items allowed to pass : —
Page 27.— R. Hay & Co., Furniture $783 69
Mr. Hay appeared at the request of the Committee, to explain what they were inclined
to think was an overcharge in this account, viz. : an item of curtains for Mr. Speaker's
rooms, amounting to $115.00 ; and an item of $90.00 for recovering and restoring furni-
ture. Mr. Hay explained to the satisfaction of the Committee, that those prices charged
were the same as charged to private individuals, for the same class of goods, and that in
no case did he charge the Government any more for furnishing, than he charged any other
of his customers.
Page 29.— Library $3,600 00
Mr. PFatson, Librarian, appeared at the request of Committee, and explained the
method of purchasing books for the Library. He said he always submitted a list of books
to Mr. Crooks for his approval before purchasing them.
Page 42.— J. Stovel, Furnishings $201 00
Col. Gillmor appeared before Committee, and explained that this account was for
robes, &c., for Mr. Speaker.
Page 41.— Thomas Philips, to pay dusters $122 50
Accounts produced, and item passed.
Page 42.— Sundry Newspapers $992 69
Accounts produced and item passed.
Hon. Mr. Crooks here remarked, that the Government had come to the conclusion, to
publish the notices with reference to the meeting of the Legislature, &c., for the future in
the Ontcvrio Gazette only, and thereby save these large items for advertising such notices.
Pages 45, 46, 47.— Crown Criminal Prosecutions $109,434 64
All accounts produced and items passed.
Committee adjourned at 1 P.M., until Tuesday, 21st December, at 11 o'Clock, A.M.
PETER Gow,
Chairman.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
TUESDAY, 21st December, 1875, 11.15, A. M.
Committee met.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow, Chairman, Messrs. Hay,
Hon. Messrs.Crooks,Macdougalll,&Wood, Lauder,
Messrs. Boulter, Merrick,
Clarke (Wellington), Meredith,
Deacon, Ross,
Ferris, Striker — 15.
Gibson,
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Page 37.— Item— E. Hay, & Co $783 69
Was again considered.
It was moved by Mr. Lander, seconded by Mr. Boulter,
That the item in Page 37, R. Hay & Co., $783.69, be recorded in detail on the mi-
nutes of this Committee.
It was moved by Hon. Mr. Crooks,
That the motion be amended by striking out the last words, " of this Committee," and
adding thereto " and that the particulars and letter of Mr. Hay sent to the Committee,
at its request, be also recorded on the minutes of this Committee, and that Mr. Hay and
his Foreman be directed to attend this Committee, to give such further explanations as
any member of the Committee may require." — Carried unanimously.
Considered.— Dickey Neil & Co $ 120 20
Papers produced.
Considered. — Thomas Short, Expenses re- transfer of prisoners to Cen-
tral Prison , $2,306 94
Mr. Langmuir appeared at the request of the Committee and explained the mode and
cost of conveying prisoners to the Central Prison. He said the average cost of transferring
each prisoner was $5.70 per head — this includes all prisoners, those from the City of Tor-
onto, as well as those from outside said city.
It was moved by Mr. Lauder, and seconded by Hon. Mr. Macdougall, that sub-Com-
mittees of this Committee be appointed to investigate all accounts and payments connected
with the Central Prison, and the expenditure on Colonization Eoads for 1874 and 1875.
It was moved in amendment by Mr. Clarke, and seconded by Mr. Ferris, to strike
out first " that" and substitute " the matters connected with the Central Prison and
Colonization Eoads involve not only questions of account, but also questions on which the
Committee may be required to offer recommendations as to any future policy or proceed-
ing, and that in view of these special circumstances it is expedient that the Committee
delegate their functions in these cases to a sub-committee."
This Amendment was lost on the following division : —
YEAS. NAYS.
Hon. Messrs. Crooks and Wood, Hon. Mr. Macdougall,
Messrs. Clarke, Messrs. Boulter,
" Ferris, " Deacon,
" Gibson, " Hay,
" Striker.— 6. « Lauder,
" Merrick,
" Meredith,
" Eoss.— 8.
Mr. Ferris moved, seconded by Mr. Clarke, in amendment, — That the reference to
any sub-committee that may be appointed be of items of account only where no policy is
involved, but on questions where principles are involved, such as the Central Prison and
Colonization Eoads expenditure, should have the fullest investigation by the whole
Committee.
The chairman rules this amendment out of order.
Mr. Eoss moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Hay, that the following be added
to the motion.
"And report the evidence as to fact to this Committee."
Mr. Clarke moved in amendment to the amendment, seconded by Mr. Gibson, that
all the words after " that" be struck out and the following substituted : — " It is not
necessary or advisable to appoint sub-committees for the consideration of the Public
Accounts until it has been shown that there is not sufficient time for a full investigation
of the most important items of such accounts, but that this Committee do at once proceed
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to an enquiry into the items under the heads of Colonization Roads and Central Prison/
The amendment to the amendment was carried on the following division. It being
a tie, the chairman voted with the yeas :—
YEAS. NAYS.
Hon. Messrs. Crooks and Wood, Hon. Mr. Macdougall,
Messrs. Clarke, Messrs. Boulter,
" Ferris, " Deacon,
Gibson, " Lauder,
" Hay, « Merrick,
" Striker.— 7. " Meredith.™6.
On motion of Mr. Clarke, it was agreed to go on with the Central Prison investigate
to-morrow, and Mr. Langmuir and Mr. Tully were ordered to be notified to appear.
On a suggestion from the Chairman it was agreed that the Committee meet to-morrow
at 10 o'clock a.m., and proceed to the Central Prison, with a view of getting as much
knowledge of construction &c., as possible, in order to facilitate the investigation.
Committee then adjourned at 1.10 p.m., until to-morrow, Wednesday 22nd, at 10 a.m.
PETER Gow,
Chairman.
WEDNESDAY, 22nd Dec., 1875, 10 o'clock A.M.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow, Chairman.
Mr. Clarke, (Wellington).
No quorum.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
THURSDAY, 13th Jan., 1876, 10 o'clock.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow, Chairman.
" Mr. Wood, Messrs. Gibson,
Messrs. Boulter, " Hardy,
Clarke (Wellington), " Ilauder.— 7.
v No quorum.
The members present left immediately in accordance with a previous resolution, and
paid a visit to the Central Prison.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
FRIDAY, 14th Jan., 1876.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow, Chairman.
*' Messrs. Crooks and Wood, Messrs. Gibson,
" Clarke (Wellington), " Ross,
" Ferris, " Striker.— 8.
No quorum. (Members present waited until 11.40 o'clock.)
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TREASURER'S OFFICE,
TUESDAY, 18th Jan., 11 o'clock A.M.
Committee met.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow, Chairman.
" Messrs. Crooks arid Wood, Messrs. Hay,
Clarke (Wellington), " Merrick,
Ferris, " Ross,
" Gibson, " Striker.— 10.
It was moved by Mr Clarke (Wellington), seconded by Mr. Ross, and Resolved.
" That a statement be prepared to be laid before this Committee, showing the cost
of the Central Prison from the commencement of the works thereon, to the 31st Decem-
ber, 1875, and giving under separate heads the amount expended for land, buildings,
machinery, furniture and improvement of grounds."
It was moved by Mr. Ferris, seconded by Mr. Merrick, and Resolved,
" That inasmuch as some of the members of this Committee have met on three or
four occasions, but have been unable to proceed as the quorum being fixed at the number
of nine, and that number not being present, it is therefore resolved, that the chairman be
requested to ask the House to reduce the number necessary to form a quorum to the
number of seven."
It was agreed that further investigation of the Central Prison be laid over until the
statement asked for was brought down.
Page 84 Considered.— COLONIZATION ROADS.
Mr. Bridgland, at the request of the Committee, explained the mode of doing the work
on these roads ; he said part was done by contract, and part of them by days' work. They
often found it more advantageous to do the work under overseers by days' work, as in
many cases when they called for tenders, the tenders were at such high figures that they
could not accept them, but the principal work done by days' work was repairing. As to
the mode of getting supplies for the men sent out, Mr. Bridgland explained that they
went round to the different merchants and got prices from them of what they would
furnish certain supplies for, and they gave it to the lowest offer.
Mr. Bridgland was requested to produce before the Committee to-morrow, all accounts
for supplies, also a statement showing the wages paid' each overseer and the men under
them.
Also all papers and accounts connected with the following items : —
Page 84. — John S. Aylsworth, Opeongo and Missipi Roads $2,416 24
" " A. G. Judd, Parry Sound Road 5,200 00
" " D. M. Card, Lake Joseph Road... 1,564 15
" " P. Vankleek, Pembroke and Mattawa Road 3,169 82
" " John Bangs do do Road 3,83526
" " Henry Elliott, Hastings Road ., 1,018 39
Page 53 Considered.— EDUCATION— MUSEUM.
Papers ordered to be produced in the following items : —
Page 54.— H. J. Morgan, Maps, Books, &c $300 80
" " Rowsell & Hutchison, Books 1380
" " A. Piddington, Books 53 27
" " A. Dredge & Co., Binding 972 25
" " Sundry Persons, Journals, &c 7557
" " Copp, Clark & Co., Curiosities „ 150 00
« " E. J. Potter, Mirrors, &c 439 67
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Journal of Education.
Page 54.— E. J. Potter, Supplies $113 02
Maps} Apparatus, Library and Prize Books.
Page 54.— Copp, Clark & Co., Sundry Supplies $4,738 71
" " Hunter, Rose & Co., Sundry Supplies .. 1,011 02
" " Charles Potter, Sundry Supplies 2,27231
" " KJ.Potter, do 4,60081
" 55.— John McDonald & Co., Sundry Supplies 43774
" " J. P. May, Colouring Maps, Globes, &c 950 15
" " F. Hodgins, do do 69775
" " J. G. Hodgins, Eeconstructing Maps 45850
Committee adjourned at 1 o'clock P.M., until to-morrow, Wednesday, 19th Jan., at
11 o'clock A.M.
PETER Gow,
Chairman.
The following Report was presented to the House this day : —
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario.
The Special Committee for the consideration of Public Accounts beg to report,
That at its Session of to-day the following resolution was adopted : —
" That inasmuch as some of the members of this Committee have met on three or
four occasions, but have been unable to proceed, the quorum being fixed at the number
of nine, and that number not being present, it is therefore resolved that the Chairman be
requested to ask the House to reduce the number necessary to form a quorum to the
number of seven."
Your Committee would therefore recommend its confirmation by your Honourable
House.
(Signed) PETER Gow,
Chairman.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
WEDNESDAY, 19th January, 1876.
Committee met.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow — Chairman.
Hori, Messrs. Crooks and WTood,
" Clarke (Wellington), Messrs. Hay,
" Ferris, « Ross,
" Gibson, " Striker.— 9.
Mr. Bridgland appeared before the Committee and produced copies of contracts, pay
lists, accounts for supplies, &c., in connection with Colonization Roads.
Mr. Bridgland explained that the overseers were paid from $1.50 to $3.50 per day,
according to their ability and the work they were intrusted with. Previous to 1875,
some of the overseers were paid as high as $4, but the Commissioners reduced the
amount to $3.50.
Mr. Bridgland agreed to have prepared for the Committee a tabular statement
showing,
1st. The name of the work.
2nd. The name of the overseer.
3rd. The amount per diem paid overseer.
ith. The average rate paid forenieiL
5th. The average rate of wages paid laboureis.
• Sth. The amount expended.
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The rate to include that for the year 1874 as well as 1875.
Mr. Bridgland here produced, at the request of the Committee, a synopsis of tenders
received for supply of groceries purchased and used by the men working on the roads
done by day's work.
NAME.
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The following statement, showing the average cost of boarding each man per week
on each of the following roads> was taken from Mr. Bridgland's book produced before the
Committee : —
1874. Opeongo Road $2 15 per man per week.
Lake Joseph Road 2 86
Frontenac " 2 24
Hastings " 2 58
Mississippi " 2 60
Muskoka " 2 46
Pembroke and Mattawa Road 2 33
Addington Road 2 40
Pembroke and Mattawa Road.... 8 06
Muskoka and Bobcaygeon Road. . 3 00
Western division
under Vankleek.
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under Proctor.
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Fort William Road
Cameron "
. 2 42
Baseline "
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Monck "
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Northern "
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(under Judd.)
Mr. Bridgland further explained to the Committee, that in no case did they pay men
that were hired by the day for any days they might lose through bad weather, or by any
other reason. Men with teams that are engaged drawing supplies, are never furnished
with board either for themselves or horses. I am in favour of giving out these works
by contract where it can be done beneficially, but as a rule, except on new roads, it can-
not be done as well nor as cheaply by contract as by days' work. We are guided a good
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deal in doing this work by the reports we get in the Department from the localities where
the work is to be done. These matters are always brought before the Commissioner.
There is a great deal of this work that is impossible to get done by tender, such as repair-
ing, &c. : such jobs can be done much more efficiently by days' work. The bulk of the
work cannot be done by contract.
Pages 53, 54, 55. — Education.
All vouchers, &c., asked for at a previous meeting were produced.
Committee adjourned at 12.54, until to-morrow, Thursday, 20th January, at 11
o'clock, A. M.
PETER Gow,
Chairman.
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TREASURER'S OFFICE,
THURSDAY, 20th January, 1876, 11 o'clock, A.M.
Committee met.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow, Chairman, Messrs. Hardy,
Hon. Messrs. Crooks & Wood, Hay,
Messrs. Clarke (Wellington), Ross,
Ferris, Striker.— 10.
Gibson,
Consideration of accounts, vouchers, &c., connected with Central Prison, proceeded
with.
Accounts of George Harding, Plumbing, Gas-fitting, Lock-smithing, &c.
Mr. Tully gave an explanation with regard to an account of Mr. Harding, for extra
work, amounting to $263.75, which he said was for a better class of pendants that were
put up in the Warden's apartments. The Warden did not seem to be satisfied with the
pendants to be put up according to Mr. Harding's contract, and the Commissioner and
Mr. Langmuir went down to Mr. Harding's establishment, and chose a better class of
pendants for his (the Warden's) apartments only, and Mr. Harding merely charged as
extra the difference between those according to contract, and those that were put up.
Another account of Mr. Harding's, amounting to 83,740.00, was, Mr. Tully explained,
that this amount includes the steam apparatus for all the additional heating for the upper
tier of cells in the two wings. It took about 5,000 additional feet of piping for extra coils.
Mr. Harding was paid at the regular trade prices for such work.
The following account explains the whole of Mr. Harding's transactions, at the Central
Prison : —
(Copy)
Cr. George Harding.
1873.
Oct. 13.— By Extra work as per 25 $ 132 71
1874.
Jan'y. 10.— « « " " 7 27991
Lead " « 10 120 53
« " " 19... 60 00
Contract for heating and lighting shops 2,486 00
Extra work in shops as per 82 628 80
" 23.—
March 14.—
" 27.—
April 7.— Leadasper 102 9662
« 22. " " account.. 60 36
May 20. — " Amount of Agreement 5,347 48
" " " Extras as per Statement 3,73965
June 16 — " Extra work on Water Closets, as per Statement
$297 70
Laundry as per Statement 801 06
1098 76
Less deductions 493 10
605 66
$13,557 72
Augusts. — By Extra work as per Statement 1,235 53
814,793 25^
To amount from Dr...., 12,816 36
Balance due $1,976 89
Correct,
Approved, (Signed) KIVAS TULLY,
C. F. Fraser, Commissioner, Architect.
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The accounts of Thomas'Lalor & Sons, for plumbing, gas-fitting lock-smithing, &c.,
amounting to $3,425.26, were examined. Accounts, vouchers, &c., were found correct
and passed.
These accounts were for a contract, Messrs. Lalor & Sons had for putting the Simul-
taneous Locking Patent, &c., on the prison doors ; also, making iron doors and shutters.
Accounts, vouchers, &c., of Hugh Hennessy, were next produced, for iron work,
amounting to $2,361.70.
Mr. Tully explained, that Mr. Hennessy's contract was, for to make the locks and put
them in. Account produced, amounting to $356.00 for extra days' work, Mr. Tully said,
was for days work in cleaning and oiling locks that had been delivered by Mr. Hennessy,
as part of his contract, but in consequence of being delivered before they were required,
they were boxed up and got rusted, so they required to be cleaned and oiled. He had to
send men to fit them in here. His contract was to fit them in Hamilton, this is the reason
he was allowed it.
The locks charged for at $14.00 each, were extra locks, and were more complicated ;
they had to open from both sides ; they were more expensive than the contract locks.
Another account of Mr. Hennessy, amounting to $413.80, 198 days, putting plates on
cells doors and freeing doors, Mr. Tully said the Department supplied the doors, and
some of them were not perfectly true, and he had to make them to fit easy, and put a
plate on the inside so as the prisoners could not put their hands through, to tamper with
the lock. This was recommended by the Inspector. . J^
D. S. Keith, account for Cooking Eange, &c., amounting to $1,175.00, examined and
passed.
Accounts of George Bingham, amounting to $1,153.54, for Iron-work, was next
examined.
Mr. Tully said that Mr. Bingham had a contract, and some items charged as extra
work were charged at the ordinary price for such work.
Mr. Tully further explained, that it was originally intended that the roof of the third
tier of cells should be brick arched, but were afterwards changed to wood ceiling joice,
and covered with sheet iron. The iron was purchased from Eice Lewis & Co., by tender,
(their tender being the lowest) and Mr. Bingham's accounts were for putting on the iron.
Accounts passed.
M. O'Conner, Painting, Glazing, &c., amounting to $2,884.46. This was also done
by contract, and the extra work charged was done at the trade price, as published by the
painters of Toronto.
Accounts passed. ,
Neil Currie & Co., Iron-work, accounts produced amounting to $1,100.00.
Mr. Tully explained, that $1,000 of this sum was for balance of contract for putting in
Tanks, &c., aud the extra $100, was for putting up and taking down scaffolding used for
raising the four cupolas of the building. The cupolas were found to be too low and had
to be raised some four or five feet to prevent danger of fire. The $1,000 balance of con-
tract was the 15 per cent, retained by the Government from the firm, until the Tanks
were made tight to the satisfaction of the Government.
Accounts passed.
George Evans, Tinsmithing, &c., amounting to $171.59.
Examined and passed.
John Duckworth, Plastering, &c., amounting to $1,224.90. To stand until next meet-
ing of Committee.
Committee adjourned at 1.10 o'clock, until to-morrow, Friday, 21st January, at 11
o'clock, A. M.
PETER Gow,
Chairman.
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TREASURER'S OFFICE,
FRIDAY, 21st Jan., 1876, 11 o'clock, A.M.
Committee met.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow, Chairman. Messrs. Gibson,
Hon. Messrs. Crooks and Wood, " Hay,
Clarke (Wellington), " Ross,
Ferris, " Striker.--9.
Continuation of examination of account and vouchers of John Duckworth & Co.,
Plastering, &c., amounting to $1,224.90. — Accounts passed.
R. Rennie, Slating $1,323 50
Mr. Tully said this was a balance of contract. Tenders were called for, for this work,
and Mr. Rennie was the lowest. — Accounts passed.
H. T. Sarge, Carpenter work $578 96
Mr. Tully explained that this was for building stairs. This was done by agreement
as to the price he was to receive. This man does nothing else but build stairs. — Accounts
passed.
J. B. Smith, Carpenter work 231 00
Mr. Tully said this account was for lumber. — Account passed.
J.Davidson, Carpenter work $114 46
Also for lumber. — Passed.
John Clements & Son, Carpenter work , $49 50
Also for lumber. — Passed.
W. W. Colwell & Bros., Carpenter work $1,728 30
Also for lumber. — Passed.
Canada Car Co., an Account of Contract $3,548 18
Passed.
John Lamb, Stone $3,998 65
Mr. Tully said this was done by agreement. It was in the first place intended that
flagging should be laid, but it was afterwards found out that by making artificial stone
flooring, would be about a third cheaper, and the conclusion was come to, to substitute
this for the flagging. We made the contract with Mr. Lamb, with Mr. Elliott's consent.
— Passed.
Thomas Snarr, Stone $1,093 40
Mr. Tully explained that this was for Ohio Sand Stone supplied after the work was
taken out of Mr. Elliott's hands, it was furnished on Mr. Elliott's account, and paid for
out of the balance coming to him. — Passed.
JohnEsson, Stone $1,565 87
Joseph Gearing, Stone , 128 18
James Farquhar & Co., Stone 530 10
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Mr. Tully said these three accounts were same as Mr. Snarr's. — Passed.
A. W. Godson, Stone $1,527 13
Mr. Tully said this was for gravel for the roads. It was delivered by tender. Ten-
ders were called for by public advertisement, and Mr. Godson's was the lowest. — Passed.
W. & G. Farquhar, Stone $1,992 53
Mr. Tully said this was for broken stone, it was not delivered by tender ; Messrs.
Farquhar have a machine for breaking the stone. We paid $18.00 per toise for this
stone. — Passed.
West & Taylor, Stone $2,257 47
Mr. Tully said this was for gravel, and was delivered by tender. Tenders were
called for by public advertisement. — Passed.
M. Townsley, Brick $500 00
Passed.
Eidout &Co., Hardware $206 40
Passed.
Kice, Lewis & Co., Hardware , $4,141 81
Mr. Tully explained that this account was principally for Sheet Iron, &c., supplied
by tender. The sheet iron was used for the ceiling of the third tier of cells. Mr. Tully
further stated to the Committee that he checked all these accounts himself and one of his
draftmen always checked the extensions, and he Mr. Tully, saw that the prices charged
were correct, and also that the material had been delivered. — Passed.
P. Patterson & Son, Hardware $30 80
Passed.
W. Hewett & Co., Hardware 216 24
Passed.
W. Anderson, Hardware $335 70
Passed.
Boatman & Kelly, Hardware $13 97
Passed.
B. Watson, Drain Pipes, &c , $168 28
Thomas Nightingale & Co., Drain Pipes, &c $69 35
Passed.
J. Marwood, Drain Pipes, &c $1 05
Passed.
Consumers' Gas Company, Gas Pipes $916 60
Mr. Tully explained that there was an agreement entered into with the Gas Company
to lay the pipes up King street to the Prison, and the Government was to pay for the
pipes that were laid within the prison grounds only. — Passed.
A. Milligan & Co., Cement $183 60
Toronto Lime Co., Lime $430 04
Passed.
J. Kennedy, Sand ... $21 00
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Mr. Tully said the agreement was $1.00 per load for this sand, it had to be drawn
three miles. — Passed.
Tracy McGough, Earth filling $705 40
Mr. Tully said this was done by tender. — Passed.
P. Burns, Fuel $64 00
Passed.
Grand Trunk Railway Co., Grading $202 36
Mr. Tully explained that this item was for building the siding to connect with the
prison. The Railway Company did the whole work, including supplying the rails, and the
sum was paid as the Government proportion of the grading, as per agreement. — Passed.
Grand Trunk Railway Co., Freight $44 00
Passed.
Great Western Railway Co., Freight $7 04
Passed.
Sundry persons, cab hire $119 75
Passed.
J. P. Wagner, services as Superintendent $2,071 91 — Passed.
James Price, do Measuring work on Elliott's contract 282 50 do
George Taylor do Clerk of Works 588 00 do
H. W. Eddis, do Accountant.., 26250 do
W. Lundy, do Clerk 224 00 do
H. Munrojr., do Clerk 183 30 do
P.Scully, do Superintendent of making roads 18000 do
M. Clarkson, do Engineer Superintendent machinery 17500 do
A. Smith, do 1663 do
John Knifton, do Clerk 3500 do
Joseph Sheard, do Arbitration between the Government and
Elliott 75 00 do
Committee adjourned at 1 o'clock, P.M., until Tuesday, 25th January, at 11 A.M.
PETER Gow,
Chairman.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
TUESDAY, 25th January, 1876, 11 o'clock, A.M.
Committee met.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow — Chairinan.
Hon. Messrs. Crooks and Wood. Messrs. Gibson,
Messrs. Clarke (Wellington), Hay,
Ferris, Striker — 8.
Page 73. Considered — Sundry accounts for furnishings, as follows, which were pro-
duced by Mr. Harris, Accountant, Treasurer's office.
A. R. McMaster & Brothers $242 88
Mr. Langmuir, Inspector of Prisons and Asylums, appeared at the request of the
Committee, and explained the different accounts.
As to the mode of procuring these supplies of dry goods furnished by Messrs.
McMaster & Co., Mr. Langmuir said a requisition is made out to the Government shewing
the articles that are required, and instructions were given to him (Mr. Langmuir) to pur-
chase these things wherever he could do so to the best advantage. We go to several
places and get samples as to colours and quality of goods we require, and we purchase at
the cheapest place. The accounts are all sent to his (Mr. Langmuir's) office to be certified
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to before being paid. This class of goods could not be purchased by tender, as in the
first place the sheeting they require is an extra width, 45 inches, and has to be ordered
specially from the old country as that width is not made here. And, for instance, such as
towels, you cannot describe in a specification exactly what kind of an article you want.
We purchase at as low rates as any wholesale merchant can purchase, we being cash pur-
chasers. If we undertook to purchase dry goods by specification there would be a great
deal of trouble deciding what was the best goods. I am sure it would be very unwise
to ask for tenders for dry goods based upon specifications. In all matters of supplies
where we can invite tenders, it has been done.
Accounts Passed.
The following accounts were then examined and passed : —
E. Remington & Sons, Furnishings $188 12
This was for rifles, revolvers, &c., for the guards.
Copp, Clark & Co., furnishings, (for books for the library of prison) 178 25
Hughes Bros., furnishings (for blankets and quilts) 179 95
Hunter, Rose & Co., furnishings 317 45
Mr. Langmuir explained that this was for printing forms and requisitions. They
were given to Messrs. Hunter, Rose & Co., because they were the Government printers.
William Scott, furnishings $9388
Connor, Webb & Co. " 92 47
John Fensom " 85 78
John McDonald & Co. " 63 00
W. H. Sparrow •' 52 40
R Wilkes&Co. " (forelocks) 48 90
Thomson & Burns " 5820
F. W. Unit « 3480
E. J. Burnham " - 70 51
N. L. Piper &Son « 6235
Adam, Stevenson & Co. " 184 81
Mr. Langmuir explained that this account was also for books for Prison Library.
The books for the library were all purchased from those two firms, Messrs. Copp, Clark &
Co., and Messrs. Adam, Stevenson & Co. They were all subject to a trade discount of 25%.
Mr. Langmuir further explained that it was only when a prisoner's conduct for the week
was good, that they allowed them a book to read and a candle in their cell.
Lugsdin and Bennett, furnishings $2600
Nelson & La Fort, " 14 55
Standard Laundry Machinery Co " 43896
Thos. Short, sundries 234 57
Mr. Langmuir explained that Mr. Short was Bursar of the Prison, and there were al-
ways small items to be paid for cash, such as freight and express charges, and sundry other
such items, and the Bursars of the different institutions were each furnished with an ac-
countable warrant for $250, and they had to send in a statement of what they paid out,
accompanied by the vouchers, at the end of every month.
A.Montgomery, sundries $ 4 85
T. K. Rogers, " 202 36
Mr. Langmuir said this account was for hay and straw furnished while the Govern-
ment had horses working at the prison.
Mr. Langmuir next explained the items on page 122 of Public Accounts for 1874 as
follows : —
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Hospital |171 05
Mr. Langmuir said this was for a supply of medicine purchased for the prison by Dr,
Aikins, it was purchased from Messrs. Lyman & Co. and Hugh Miller.
Butcher's meat, fish, &c f $2,530 39
This Mr. Langmuir said was supplied by contract. Tenders were advertised for. 5 J
cents per Ib. was the contract price for the meat.
Flour, bread and meal $2,888 35
Also, contract. $5 20 was the price paid for flour. They use one-third fall, aud two-
thirds spring wheat.
Groceries and vegetables $3,274 39
The groceries are purchased in the same way as the dry goods. Mr. Langmuir said
that they had found out from experience that this was a much better mode of purchasing
groceries than by contract.
Bedding and clothing $3,596 60
Purchased in the best markets.
Fuel .... $6,149 97
Contract. Tenders called for.
Light .... $332 86
This was furnished by the City Gas Company at the ordinary city rates.
Laundry, soap and cleaning $461 06
This was for washing clothes and cleaning cells, &c. This amount was for material
only, the labour was done by the prisoners.
Stationery, advertising, printing, postage, &c $435 65
Mr. Langmuir said a requisition was sent to the Queen's Printer for what stationery
was required for the prison. The advertising was for advertising for tenders for certain
supplies. Mr. Langmuir further said that where tenders were called, they invariably gave
the contracts to the lowest tenders.
Libraries, schools and lectures $79 00
Mr. Langmuir explained that this item was for cab hire for the clergy and teachers in
Sabbath Schools, which they had in the chapel every Sabbath. They had both a Protes-
tant and a Roman Catholic clergyman preaching there for the instruction of the prisoners,
and some of the citizens of Toronto go up and teach in the Sabbath School.
Furniture and furnishings $314 61
Mr. Langmuir said that in every institution of this kind they were always requiring
some little things that had been omitted when furnishing.
Repairs $217 60
This was for repairs to building and furniture. The sum of $500 was voted each
year for this service.
Unenumerated $459 01
Mr. Langmuir said this was for some items that could not be very well put under
any heading.
Deaf and Dumb Institute, Belleville, was the next subject taken under consideratio
Mr. Langmuir explained what the different accounts were for as they were brought
up, as follows —
D. S. Keith, on account of contract , $2,633 15
John Forin, do 30000
Lewis Kerr, do lumber 20997
This account was for lumber purchased on instructions from my office. We have a
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certain number of students that are being instructed in carpenter and joiner's work. They
do all the repairing around the building.
J. M. Walker & Co., lumber $103 23
Same as Lewis & Kerr.
W. H. Worth, plastering, &c 213 20
Gardiner & Wilkins, do 124 57
J.Lang, slating 44 50
William Johnston, carpenter work 20 62
William Wensley, painting ' 55 87
Charles Lang, whitewashing 91 50
do planting, &c .. 104 25
The last item of planting, Mr. Langmuir explained, was for putting in shade trees,
but the soil was so poor that they are not getting on at all.
Thomas Jones, trees 27 50
James Glass & Co., hardware 28 58
Ridout & Co., filters for hall 17 30
R. Hay & Co., furniture 31 08
Mr. Langmuir said this item was for extra bedsteads.
J. Hibbard & Son, mattresses, &c 155 75
G. C. Holton& Co., carpeting 127 47
This carpeting was for carpeting three rooms for the Head Keeper that was appointed,
and also for an extra lady teacher.
N. Jones, furnishings 37 16
J. J. Frost, do 62 28
Beardmore & Co., leather 565 73
Mr. Langmuir explained that the boots and shoes for all the other Public Institutions in
the Province were now made in this Institution, and this account was for their first supply
of leather. Mr. Langmuir further explained that the Institutions were all charged with
what they got from this Institution, and credit was given this Institution for the different
amounts.
A. Christie, to pay sundries $50 25
Mr. Tully said that Mr. Christie was Bursar of the Institution, and this amount was
for sundry disbursements made by him, for which he returned vouchers to the Depart-
ment.
Mr. Langmuir further explained the mode of procuring supplies of groceries for the
different Institutions. He said the Bursar of each Institute made out a requisition of
what he required for three months in advance, and the goods were either purchased by
Mr. Langmidr himself, or purchased by samples sent to the Department by the Bur-
sar, and approved of as to quality and price. He, Mr. Langmuir, made all the purchases
for the different Institutions in Toronto himself, but sometimes he had to make the pur-
chases for some of the Institutions outside of Toronto, as he said, by samples sent from
the different Bursars. Mr. Langmuir further said that he did not think they could be
purchased to advantage by tender, as they had found out by experience that when they
had given out tenders the goods delivered were not always -as per specification — there
would always be an inferior tea, or something else shoved on to them. Mr. Langmuir
further said that the cost of maintaining a lunatic seven years ago was $150 per annum,
and now, when everything is higher, it is only $128. As to coal, Mr. Langmuir said they
got it very cheap by advertising for tenders in the spring. He said they had soft coal
delivered to them as low as $4 80 per ton in Toronto, and had had it delivered in Lon-
don as low as $4 90. He said he always sent specification to the coal dealers in the
States.
BLIND INSTITUTE, BRANTFORD.
Page 75. — Mr. Liny explained the accounts of this Institution, amounting to
$8,071 40
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ASYLUM FOR THE INSANE, TORONTO.
Page 114. — By deposited to the credit of the Treasurer $16,048 06
Mr. Clarke (of Wellington) asked Mr. Langmuir to explain what this amount was
for.
Mr. Langmuir said it was principally the amount received from paying patients and
for some stock that was sold.
Mr. Notman, Accountant and Queen's Printer, was then called to explain mode of
procuring stationery, &c.
Mr. Notman said it was all supplied by contract. Tenders were advertised for every
year, and the lowest tender was accepted. He said that everything was bought in the
Canadian market. The reason the change was made of buying here, instead of importing
as formerly, was because certain of the dealers here made complaints to the Government
that they thought it was hardly right to take the trade out of their hands here, when
they could furnish the stationery at as low prices as it could be imported for. The rates
now are as cheap as in former times. It is very surprising the low rates at which they
tender. It is all imported paper that we use. Mr. Notman further stated that it was
their intention to get a cheaper paper next year, as it was represented to him that if he
got a better class of paper than he had been in the habit of supplying the different depart-
ments they would use less, but he had found out by experience that they used more. The
stationery is furnished the different departments on a requisition from the Deputy Head,
and he, Mr. Notman, kept all those requisitions, and could show at any time where every
sheet of the paper went.
Page 74.— Mr. Harris produced all pay-sheets for Central Prison amounting to $37,378
16.
Dr. May, of the Education Office, was ordered to be notified to appear before Commit-
tee to-morrow.
Committee adjourned at 12.35 o'clock, until to-morrow, Wednesday, at 11 o'clock, A.M.
PETER Gow,
Chairman*.
COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ACCOUNTS.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
TORONTO, Wednesday, 26th January, 1876.
11 o'clock, A. M.
Committee met.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow, Chairman. Messrs. Gibson,
" Messrs Crooks and Wood, " Hay,
" Boulter, « Striker.— 8.
" Clarke (Wellington),
All Accounts, vouchers, &c., in connection with expenditure on account of the Edu-
cation Department were produced.
Dr. Hodgins and Dr. May were also present to make such explanations as the Com-
mittee might require in reference to these accounts.
Page 53.— H. J. Morgan, maps, books, &c $300 80
Dr. Hodgins explained that this was for pamphlets, &c., got from Mr. Morgan in
connection with a History of Canada they were getting up. He further said that Mr.
Morgan had a lot of these rare pamphlets, &c., that they required, and they exchanged
with Mr. Morgan and allowed him this three hundred dollars difference in the exchange.
Mr. Morgan, he said, was quite a collector of such things, and this was a very valuable col-
lection indeed. They will be accessible to the public in a short time, as some of them have
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been bound, and the balance would shortly be bound also, as the Treasurer had given
them a small grant this year for that purpose. — Account passed.
Eowsell & Hutchinson, books $13 80 — passed.
A. Fiddington " 53 27— passed.
A. Dredge & Co., binding 97225
Dr. Hodgins explained that part of this account of Dredge & Co., was for binding
some of those pamphlets got from Mr. Morgan. — Account
Hunter, Eose & Co., binding $10 00
account passed.
Sundry persons, journals, &c $75 57 — passed.
E. Spencer, curiosities 150 00 — passed.
Dr. May explained that this account of E. Spencer was for a complete set of books
&c., in reference to the Esquimaux, and clothing and cooking utensils used by them. This
Mr. Spencer had been exhibiting them, and when he came to us first he asked some-
thing like $600 for them, but of course we could not think of giving any such price,
and we afterwards bought them from him for this sum, $150. It is a very unique and
valuable collection. Dr. May further said that the Legislature voted them $3,000 per
annum for library and museum.
Copp, Clark & Co., curiosities $13200
Dr. May said this was for a collection, showing food and the various adulterations. —
Passed.
J. Clements & Son, decorating, &c $653 19.
Dr May said that this account was for fitting up a room fcr showing the engravin
&c. This was done by contract and after being finished was valued at $1,200. — Pas
Edmund Bell, casts, &c .. $265 77
This account of Mr. Bell's Dr. May explained was for fitting up the statuary in what
they call the Egyptian room. They are beautifully fitted up ; they are placed in niches in
the walls. It was impossible to get this work done by contract. I overlooked the men
myself while they were at work there. — Passed.
G. Freret, casts, &c $2 00— passed.
F. Casci, pillars, &c 54 00 — passed,
E. J. Potter, mirrors, &c 439 67
Dr. May said this account was for glass furnished for the room done by Clements &
Son. There are three mirrors there, showing concave, and convex, and semi-concave. —
Passed.
Eolph, Smith & Co., stamps $20 00 — passed.
W. Elliott, painting, &c 356 30
Dr. May said this account was for painting the figures in the Egyptian room. The
figures are painted to represent as near as possible the originals, when found. Dr. May
further stated that he was in England during the past summer, and found that they were
just then doing in the South Kensington Museum what we have done here. — Passed.
J. B. Carter, painting, &c $16 91— passed.
A. Hamilton, " 5 70 — passed.
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John Rogers, carpenter work $30 50 — passed.
R. Hay & Co., furniture 11 10 — passed'
P. Burns, fuel 50 00— passed.
Rev. Dr. Ryerson, to defray express charges, &c 71 38 — passed.
M. Marshall, twelve months salary as caretaker 200 00
Dr. May explained that M. Marshall was a female caretaker. — Passed.
JOURNAL OF EDUCATION.
The only item that an explanation was asked for under this head was : —
E. J. Potter, supplies $113 02
Dr. Hodgins explained that this account was for the English periodicals relating to
Education that were purchased through Mr. Potter. Mr. Potter, Dr. Hodgins said, was
their agent in London, and the payment was made through him, although Mr. Owen was
really the person who supplied them. — Account passed.
MAPS, APPARATUS, LIBRARY AND PRIZE BOOKS.
Copp, Clark & Co., Sundry Supplies $4,738 71
Dr. May said this was for Maps, &c. — Passed.
Hunter, Rose & Co $1,011 02
Dr. May said this was for Printing. — Passed
Burns Bros., Sundry Supplies $531 40
Dr. May said this was done by tender. — Passed.
Dr. May further explained that they divided up the contract for Binding and Sta-
tionery, and give it to three different firms.
ADredge&Co., Sundry Supplies $1,283 39
J. B. Carter, " ...., 4,848 76
Those two accounts were Passed.
Charles Potter, Sundry Supplies $2,272 31
Dr, May said these accounts were for Maps and Phrenological charts, &c., for the
Schools. — Passed.
John Rogers, Sundry Supplies $835 05
For Map cases, &c. — Passed.
D. & J. Sadlier & Co., Sundry Supplies $1,586 33
For Roman Catholic Separate School Books. — Passed.
E. J. Potter, Sundry Supplies $4,600 81
Dr. May said, for appliances &c., ordered in England. We can purchase these things
through Mr. Potter very much cheaper, as he goes and selects himself. He always sends
us samples, and we order by the sample. — Passed.
J. D. Trigg, Sundry Supplies $2,237 21
This was for the Christian Knowledge Society's publications in
London. — Passed.
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Kentledge & Sons, Sundry Supplies $2,557 19
W. P. Nimmo, do 1,436 65
T. Nelson & Sons, do 834 69
W. Mclntosh, do 25649
Brewer & Tileston do 448 06
—Passed.
May & Co., Sundry Supplies 435 93
Dr May explained that this account was for chemicals, &c., furnished by contract.
Tenders were called for, and it was given to the lowest tender. Hon Mr. Crooks had since
issued an order, that as my son was the head of this firm we had better not purchase any
more goods from them. — Passed.
Nesbitt&Co., Sundry Supplies $885 92
Rolph, Smith & Co., Seals for the Schools 869 50
Harper Bros., American Publications 812 71
Ward, Lock & Tyler, English Publications 759 19
J. Campbell & Son, School Books 769 20
Dood & Mead, Sundry Supplies. . .' 430 97
American Tract Society, Sundry Supplies 429 63
Those seven items were then passed.
Adam Miller & Co., Sundry Supplies 475 94
%
Dr. Hodgins explained that this item was for text books for the Normal Schools. In
answer to Mr. Gibson, Dr. Hodgins said, that the students in the Normal Schools paid only
one half the cost for their books. This is in accordance with an Act of the Legislature. —
Passed.
Joseph Tarn, Sundry Supplies $845 32
for Religious Tracts. — Passed.
J. G. Witte&Bros., Sundry Supplies for the Depository $418 39
E. Carter & Bros., for Publications , 404 98
George Bell & Sons, for Prizes 575 09
John McDonald & Co., for Books 437 74
W. Blackwood & Son, do 365 45
Gait & Inglis, do 303 34
F. Warne&Co., do 671 95
Cassels, Petter & Galpin, do 587 93
W. & R Chambers, do 27544
Gould & Lincoln, Maps 224 94
W. & A. R. Johnston, Maps 611 77
W. W. Gardiner, Books 113 14
Burns, Gates & Co., Roman Catholic Books 194 27
Seely, Jackson & Halliday, Books 199 38
These accounts were then passed.
C. G. Wheeler, Sundry Supplies $120 11
"Dr. May explained that this account was for four charts. We have made arrange-
ments to get these from Germany, and can furnish them to the Schools at one-tenth the
cost of those we purchased from Wheeler — Passed.
Dr. Hodgins here explained that they manufactured globes now in the Department,
and that they had done them much more correctly than they found those that were im-
ported. They manufactured more than were manufactured in England, Ireland, and
Scotland together.
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The following accounts were then examined and passed, viz. : —
Edmonston & Douglas, Sundry Supplies, Books $174 09
James Reynolds, Charts 112 86
Houlston & Sons, do 25303
W. & J. Middleton, Books 108 49
Lockwood & Co., do 10052
W. Stewart, do 133 76
G. Phillip & Son, do 20609
William Legg, Charts ' , 267 11
Virtue & Co., Books 118 62
L. Prang & Co., Mottoes for Schools 205 48
J. Blackwood & Co., Books, &c 164 96
J. W. Stearns, do • 189 79
J. A. Fowler, do 100 00
A. S. Barnes & Co., do 231 42
A. F. Potter, do . 266 00
, Sampson&Co., do 17334
London Book Society, do 11751
London Scholastic Co., do 32 92
A. & C. Black, do 94 08
Morgan & Scott, do 8975
W. Groombridge & Son, do 90 66
Oliver & Boyd, do 93 55
Cameron & Ferguson do 5395
W. Isbister & Co., do 92 21
P. Roberts, Magic Lantern Slides 19 15
Woolworth & Co., Books 58 20
J. F. Shaw & Co., do 67 05
Willing & Williamson, Books, , 13 14
R. A. Wood, Chemicals 73 10
S. C. Griggs & Co., Publications 73 10
P. P. Putnam & Co., do 89 61
(Books.) Adam Stevenson & Co., Sundry supplies $32 55
(Wrapping Paper.) J. Taylor & Brother, " 6660
(Books.) Hart & Rawlinson, " 1743
Rev. S. Rose, « 7 50
McPherson, Ross & Co., Forwarding 290 30
W. Higginbotham & Co., Freight, Wharfage, &c. 317 75
Rev. Dr. Ryerson, To pay custom duties, &c. 1,397 71
N. Meehan, Freight and Cartage 164 10
J. P. May, Colouring Maps, Globes, &c 950 15
Dr. May explained that this last item of $950.15 was for colouring maps. The rate
paid was decided by the Superintendent of Education. The colouring was never so satis-
factorily done as at the present time. Tenders were called for in the first place, and the
Superintendent allows me the contract price as he prefers having it done by some one
connected with the Department. The tender is so much per map. As to the globes it
is very hard to get them coloured properly. An artist asked five dollars each for doing
them and they are done now for one dollar each. — Passed.
J. G. Hodgins, Re-constructing Maps $458 50
Dr. Hodgins explained, That in the time of the Sandfield Macdonald Administration,
after I had my salary reduced, Hon. Mr. Macdonald ordered the Chief Superintendent to
give me this work to do provided I would be satisfied to take half the price that had been
previously paid to outsiders who had the contract. Tenders had been called * for in the
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usual way, and I was to take half the price of the lowest tender. I accepted, as I was
anxious to try to make up to a certain extent for the reduction of my salary, but as yet
have not succeeded in making my salary including this extra work come up to what it
was previously. I am quite willing to do this work free provided my salary is raised to
the former rate. It is very necessary to have these maps correct up to the present time,
and I spend my evenings at this work. My salary has not yet been brought back to
what it was in 1868. I have represented to the members of the Government that I
would be willing to do this work free if my salary was increased to the same rate as it
was in 1868. With regard to a certain map that we wanted we applied to the Commis-
sioners of Crown Lands for it, and he said it could not be got up less than $1,200. I
afterwards got it up myself for $400. — Passed.
COUNCIL OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION.
The only item that information was asked for under this head was on page 57.
Educational Depository — Books $69 85
Dr. Hodgins explained that this item was for text books for the Council. — Passed.
Dr. Hodgins further explained, in answer to a question from a member of the Com-
mittee with reference to the purchase of medals for competition, that they were pur-
chased through Mr. Potter in London, and cost only about J what they would have to
pay for them here.
Page 52.— COUNTY EXAMINATION OF TEACHERS WAS NEXT CONSIDERED.
Dr. Hodgins explained that the amount which appears against each of the examin-
ation committees is for this extra service. Each of these gentlemen devote their holidays
to this work. The Government have agreed to allow them an additional allowance for
this year. Dr. Hodgins farther remarked that it has always been their aim to keep down
the expense as much as possible in 'this Department. In every case where tenders could
be called for any particular work it was always done and given to the lowest tender in-
variably. It is surprising the amount we have saved in this way. — Passed.
Page 75. — The Committee then took into consideration the School of Agriculture,
Guelph, and ordered the following accounts to be produced at next meeting.
Jas. Barclay, on account of Contract $7,240 01
Page 76.— Hy. Graham & Co., Carpeting 343 52
M. Stanton & Bros., Wall Paper 180 00
Guthrie, Watt & Cutten, Law Fees 360 48
H. McCandless, To pay Sundries ... 9,000 00
«
SCHOOL OF PRACTICAL SCIENCE.
Adam, Stevenson & Co., Apparatus, &c $1,395 35
Chas. Potter, " .., 39525
W.H.Ellis, " 10385
P. McKellar, " 5000
NORMAL AND MODEL SCHOOLS, TORONTO.
Joseph Gearing, on account of Contract $7,152 80
Chas. Potter, Furniture, &c , 150 50
NORMAL SCHOOL, OTTAWA.
Mr. R. Strickland, Services Preparing Plans $1,310 00
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GOVERNMENT HOUSE.
Page 78.— R Hay & Co., Furniture $1,016 33
Page 80.— SETTLERS' HOMESTEADS.
A. Staratt, Clearing, &c $395 00
Pay List, Men employed 3,223 Oc
KAMINISTIQUIA RIVER WORKS.
W. W. Williams & Co., on account of Contract 89,853 45
Oliver, Davidson & Co., Lumber, Tug Service, &c 1,546 51
GULL AND BURNT RIVER WORKS.
Pay List, Men employed $3,295 03
PORT CARLING BRIDGE.
Pay List, Men employed $1,601 59
Page 87. — CONSIDERATION OF CROWN LANDS.
Forest Ranging.
Mr. Cooper, of the Crown Lands Department, was called before the Committee to ex-
plain the mode of paying, and the kind of work these wood Rangers \vere employed at.
Mr. Cooper said there were what they called three different staffs of Rangers for the
Province. One man was put in charge of each district, and he had to do with all these
subordinates under him. It is the Ranger's duty to keep a close look out upon the
lumber operations going on in his district, and protect the Government from trespass.
The lumberman, or his clerk furnishes the different Rangers with a statement of the num-
ber of feet of timber, or number of saw logs he has taken out, and if the gauger has any
suspicion that all is not right, he goes to work and makes a measurement of all the timber,
&c., over again, at the expense of the lumberman who, has furnished him with the return.
Mr. McWilliams is engaged at a salary of $2,000 a year, and he pays all his own expenses.
He is in charge of the Peterboro' district. If we wish him to go and make a special survey
we pay him his railway fare only. He lives at Peterboro'. All the expenses of Rangers
are more than compensated for by the amount of trespass we collect. In my opinion it
would be a much better system for the Government to have a staff of sworn cullers instead
of these Rangers. A regular staff of cullers and a supervisor same as they have at Quebec.
All timber is measured through the cullers' office there. There is a collector for our Pro-
vince at Quebec. There is nothing cut yet in Georgian Bay District. I think it is a
great mistake that the cutting of square timber should not be stopped, as the best of the
timber is left in the woods. It could be cut in logs of any length required, and sawn and
sent to the old country the size it was required and thereby have the labour done in this
country where it is now done in the old country.
Committee adjourned at 1 o'clock p.m., until to-morrow, Thursday, 27th January,
at 11 o'clock a.m.
PETER Gow,
Chairman.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
THURSDAY, 27th January^ 1876.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow, Chairman.
" Mr. Crooks,
Messrs. Gibson, Striker, and Clarke (Wellington.) — 5.
The members present remained until 1 2 o'clock noon. — No quorum.
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TREASURER'S OFFICE,
FRIDAY, 28th Jan. 1876, 11 o'clock A.M.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow, Chairman.
" Mr. Crooks,
Messrs. Gibson and Striker. — 4.
No quorum — Members present remained until 11.30 o'clock.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
WEDNESDAY, 2nd February, 1876.
Present :
Messrs. Clarke (Wellington),
" Ross,
Striker.— 3.
No quorum.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
THURSDAY, 3rd February, 1876.
Present :
Messrs. Clarke (Wellington),
~" ' Gibson.— 2.
No quorum.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
FRIDAY, 4th February, 1876, 10.30 o'clock A.M.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Gow — Chairman.
Hon. Messrs. Crooks and Wood.
" Clarke (Wellington), Messrs. Hay,
" Ferris. « Boss,
" Gibson, " Striker.— 10.
" Hardy,
A draft report was presented by the Chairman, and after being read twice, was car-
ried unanimously.
Committee adjourned at 10.55 o'clock.
Chairman.
The following report was presented to the House this day : —
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario.
The Committee to whom was referred the consideration of the Public Accounts, beg
to present the following as their second and final report : —
The Committee have thoroughly examined the Public Accounts for the year ending
31st December, 1874, and made special inquiry into those in connection with the Central
Prison and Colonization Roads \ they have carefully compared the whole of the vouchers
in these matters, and taken evidence upon such points as they deemed necessary, and
submit it with a record of their minutes of proceedings.
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The Committee were unable to make a complete inquiry into the Public Accounts of
1875, as the statement laid before them was for nine months of the year, and was not in
detailed form. This arises from the fact that it is impossible to bring down the detailed
statement for the year until the month of February, or at a time when the labours of the
session are generally closed. To obviate this difficulty, the Committee recommend for the
consideration of the Legislature such a change in the Financial year as would cause it to
commence on the first day of July and close on the thirtieth day of June in each year. A
temporary inconvenience would arise from this alternative, but the increased facility for
investigation of matters still fresh in the public mind, would more than counterbalance it,
and, in the opinion of the Committee, warrant the proposed change.
The Committee find that, wherever practicable, the system of tender and contract
has been fully carried out, and that where it was impossible to adopt it, a strict super-
vision has been exercised over expenditure.
All which is respectfully submitted.
PETER Gow,
Chairman.
Committee Room, Friday, 4th February, 1876.
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REPORT
OF
THE SELECT COMMITTEE
ON
PUBLIC ACCOUNTS— 1877.
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario.
The Select Standing Committee on Public Accounts beg leave to present the follow-
ing as their
FIRST REPORT.
Your Committee report that at its Session of to-day (30th January, 1877), the fol-
ing resolution was adopted : —
" That inasmuch as some members of the Committee have met on several occasions
but have been unable to proceed at the hour appointed for the meeting of the Committee,
the quorum being fixed at the number of nine, and that number not being present ; and
considerable loss of time having resulted therefrom, it is therefore resolved, That the
Chairman be requested to ask the House to reduce the number necessary to form a quorum
to the number of Seven," Your Committee therefore recommend the reduction of the
quorum of the Committee to Seven members.
All of which is respectfully submitted,
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
Committee Room, January 30th, 1877.
The Select Standing Committee on Public Accounts beg leave to present the follow-
ing as their
SECOND REPORT.
Your Committee have made a full examination of the Public Accounts for 1875, in
so far as they relate to Legislation and Colonization Roads, and herewith submit the evi-
dence taken before them, and a copy of the record and minutes of their proceedings to
the present date, and of documents placed before them during their investigations.
All of which is respectfully submitted,
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
Committee Room, February 9th, 1877.
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The Select Standing Committee on Public Accounts beg leave to present the follow-
ing as their
THIRD REPORT.
Your Committee have taken evidence as to the system followed in obtaining sup-
plies for the maintenance of the Public Institutions of the Province, and submit it here-
with for the consideration of the Legislature.
Your Committee have also taken evidence relative to the mode of auditing the Ac-
counts of the County Treasurers for the Administration of Criminal Justice, and present
it, together with the Minutes of Proceedings to this date.
All which is respectfully submitted,
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
Committee Eoom, February 16th, 1877.
TREASURER'S OFFICE, January 10th, 1877.
The Select Standing Committee on Public Accounts, composed of the Honourable
Messieurs Cameron, Crooks, Macdougall and Wood, Messrs Clarke (Wellington), Deacon,
Ferris, Gibson, Hardy, Hay, Lauder, Merrick, Meredith, Ross, Striker, Williams and
Wills, met for organization.
Present :
Hon. Mr. Wood, Messrs. Hardy,
Messrs. Clarke, (Wellington), " Merrick,
" Deacon, " Meredith,
" Ferris, « Ross,
" Gibson, " Williams.
Moved by Mr. Hardy, seconded by Mr. Ross,
That Mr. Clarke (Wellington), be Chairman of this Committee during the present
Session . — Carried .
Adjourned until Tuesday next, the 16th instant, at 11 o'clock A.M.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
TUESDAY, 16th January, 1877.
Committee met at 11 A.M. pursuant to adjournment.
Present :
Mr. Clarke (Wellington), Chairman. Hon. Messrs. Crooks and Macdougall,
Messrs. Deacon, " Meredith,
" Ferris, '< Ross,
Gibson, " Striker,
" Hardy, " Williams,
Lauder, " Wills.
Merrick,
Upon motion of Mr. Meredith it was resolved, — That the Committee sit every day
(except Mondays and Saturdays) from 11 o'clock A.M., until 1 o'clock P.M.
Mr. Lauder moved that a Sub Committee of three members be appointed to investi-
gate the accounts of Expenditure on Colonization Roads.
After discussion, Mr. Lauder withdrew his motion.
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On motion of Mr. Lauder, Mr. Robt. Jaffray and Mr. John Carroll were ordered to
be summoned before the Committee to give evidence in reference to expenditure on
Colonization Roads, in the way of Groceries supplied.
The Committee proceeded to examine the Public Accounts of the year 1875, beginning
at page 28.
The following Items under the head of CM Government were considered.
SALARIES.
Page 28.— Lieutenant-Governor's Office $1,400 00
" " Departmental Expenses 684 18
" 29. — Government House. — Expenses $5,464 76
" " Executive Council Attorney-General's Office 9,14908
" 30. " " Departmental Expenses 3,481 96
« 31.— Treasury Department 12,499 98
" " Departmental Expenses 2,43669
" 32. — East Wing Parliament Buildings. — Repairs, Furnish-
ings, Fuel, Gas, Water, &c 3,246 77
" 33.— Secretary and Registrar's Department 9,700 00
" " Registrar-General's Branch 8,59100
« 34.— Secretary and Registrar's Office, Expenses 2,303 12
" " Registrar-General's Branch 2,24585
" 35.— Public Works Department.— Salaries 15,102 00
" " Departmental Expenses 3,210 22
" 36.— Department of Agriculture.— Salary of Secretary 80000
Departmental Expenses .». ., 341 18
" 37. — Immigration Department.— Salaries 1,600 00
Departmental Expenses 941 25
« 38. — Crown Lands Department.— Salaries 39,130 00
" 39.— Departmental Expenses 14,401 81
" 41.— Inspection of Public Institutions.— Salaries 4,800 00
Expenses 1,537 25
Salary of Inspector of Registry Offices 2,000 00
" " Division Courts 1,40000
Travelling Expenses Inspection " " 135 35
« " " County Offices 10780
42.— Miscellaneous.— Gratuities 3,076 00
Printing Official Gazette 4,200 00
Queen's Printer's Office 1,539 91
Total Civil Government $155,526 16
Papers and accounts were asked for in connection with the following items : —
Page 28.— F. C. Law, for Services $37 67
Newspapers for the Departments
32.— John Kay, Carpeting 177 56
Henry Graham, & Co., Carpeting 100 15
40.— Blake, Kerr & Boyd, Law Costs 104 37
" Edgar Fentoii & Ritchie " " 6000
" W. F. Lewis, Services as Assistant Registrar 850 00
41.— R. W. Cruice, Timber Estimate 20 00
" J. W. Langmuir, Travelling Expenses... 650 00
" Report of Hon. S. Smith, Inspector of Registration Offices. 2,000 00
Joseph Dickey, Expenses as Inspector of Division Courts. 1,400 00
Mrs. Helen Crawford's Lease
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The Committee ordered that the following persons be summoned before the Com-
mittee as witnesses, on the dates named : —
Mr. J. Notman, Queen's Printer To-morrow.
Mr. J. Morphy, Crown Lands' Department "
Mr. Langmuir, Inspector of Prisons "
Mr. Dickey, Inspector of Division Courts Friday next.
Mr. R. Jaffray, Grocer When required.
Mr. John Carroll "
Adjourned until 11 A.M. to-morrow.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
17th January, 1877.
Committee met.
Present :
Mr. Clarke (Wellington) Chairman, Hon. Messieurs Crooks and Wood,
Messieurs Deacon, " Merrick,
Ferris, " Ross,
« Gibson, " Striker,
" Hardy, " Williams,
" Hay, " Wils,
" Lauder. •
The minutes of last meeting were read and confirmed.
The following memorandum from Mr. J. G. Scott, of the Attorney General's Office,
was read in reply to the order of yesterday, for the production of Mrs. Helen Crawford's
Lease. " There is no lease. We are tenants from year to year. There were negotiations
for a lease, but the matter was never settled."
Lists of the newspapers received in several Departments were produced and laid
before the Committee.
Moved by Mr. Ferris, seconded by Mr. Gibson, and resolved — lt That the list of news-
papers for the several departments seems to be beyond the requirements of the Public
Service, and this Committee recommend that the number be reduced."
In reference to the item of $37.67 (page 28), F. C. Law, for services, it was explained
that he had retired from the service on the 18th May, and was allowed his salary until
the end of the month.
In considering the printing account of Messrs Hunter, Rose & Co., Mr. Notman,
Queen's Printer, was called, and gave an explanation to the effect that the Government
printing was done by an arrangement made between the firm of Hunter Rose & Co. and
the Government, in the fall of 1868. The contract would expire next year. The printing
was done under the contract up to the time of the printer's strike, in 1873, by which
public business was very much delayed, and the matter for printing accumulated in the
hands of the printers. The contractors offered to pay the forfeit and give up the contract,
but the Printing Committee finding that the work could not be done so cheaply anywhere
else, empowered their chairman to make arrangements for the printing of 1873, at the
rate of forty cents per thousand ems, instead of twenty- eight cents, the contract price. The
Committee refused an increase in the price of the press work, but increased the price of
binding to twenty-two cents. The arrangements of the Committee were sanctioned by
the House. The increased prices had not been paid for 1875, as an order to that effect
had not been made, and payments for 1873 and 1874, had been made on Orders in
Council. He did not think Hunter, Rose & Co. were losing money, but they complained a.
great deal about the price,
(The Chairman remarked that they were willing to give up the contract.)
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Mr. Notman further said, that before the printer's strike they were paid twenty-five-
cents a thousand eras, but since that, Hunter, Rose & Co. had paid them thirty-three and
a third cents. The work for which forty cents was paid, would cost fifty cents anywhere
else.
Mr. Notman explained as to the method adopted in the purchase of stationery, for
which Tenders were annually called, and contracts invariably given to the lowest tender,
and said that the amount held from Hunter, Rose & Co., being the difference between
original contract prices, and the prices demanded by them, was about four thousand
dollars.
Mr. Notman also said that he had repeatedly brought the matter under the notice of
the Government, and had not yet received final instructions as to the payment of the
balance claimed by Messrs. Hunter, Rose & Co.
The items for printing were then adopted.
The following accounts were produced and passed :
Messrs. Blake, Kerr & Boyd $104 37
" Edgar, Fenton & Ritchie 6000
Mr. J. Morphy, Postage clerk, Crown Lands Department, being called relative to
item of $300 (on page 39), for postage, explained that the increase of postage in 1875,.
over 1874, was caused by all postages having to be prepaid in 1875.
Mr. Langmuir appeared before the Committee and explained the item of $650, for
travelling expenses (page 41).
The Committee ordered that Mr. Robert Jaffray, and Mr. John Carroll, be summoned
to give evidence to-morrow.
Moved by Mr. Ferris, seconded by Mr. Gibson, and resolved — " That a statement be
prepared by the proper officer to be submitted to this Committee, showing the cost of the
Central Prison, from the commencement of the works thereon to the 31st December, 1876,
and giving under separate heads the amounts expended for land, buildings, machinery,
furniture, and improvements of grounds."
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
COMMITTEE ROOM,
Thursday, January 18, 1877.
Committee met.
Present :
Mr. Clarke (Wellington) Chairman, Hon. Messieurs Crooks and McDougall,
Messieurs Deacon, " Meredith,
Ferris, u Ross,
Gibson, " Striker,
Hardy, " Williams,
Lauder, " Wills,
Merrick.
The minutes of last meeting were read, corrected, and signed by the Chairman.
Mr. Robert Jaffray, grocer, Toronto, being called and sworn, gave evidence as follows
in reference to supplies furnished to the Government for Colonization Roads : —
I reside in Toronto. I have supplied the Government with groceries for Colonization
Roads since May, 1874. I was asked by the Crown Lands Department to furnish a list of
prices, and to tender for the groceries required. I do not recollect of any advertisement for
tenders. I received the letter from the Crown Lands Department in reference to groceries.
I sent in my tender. I may have the letter from the Crown Lands Department, and,if so,
can find it. I sent my tender to the Crown Lands Department. I receivedan order on the
15th May, 1874. I had no other communication then from the Crown Lands Department ;
only received an order for so much. I cannot state the amount of the order, but the usual
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A. 1877
amounts of such orders are from $60 to $120. The order was likely signed by T. H.
Johnson, Assistant Commissioner of Crown La.nds.
I furnished goods under the same arrangement in 1875. I modified the prices myself
somewhat, without any intervention of the Government. The Department did not refrain
from complaining when there was any reason for it. There were complaints as to the
quality of pork, but not as to prices. I furnished goods in 1875 to the amount of $7,891
under the old arrangement. During the past season parties claimed that they could fur-
nish teas cheaper than I could, but I found, on comparison, that my teas were better
value. I still continue to supply goods, such as teas, coffee, sugar, syrup, beans, dried
apples, &c. I do not usually supply pork, but did supply a small quantity, when the
quantity tendered for was not sufficient.
I furnished goods in 1874 to the amount of $6,920.37, and in 1876, the amount
of $2,846.45.
I am a supporter of the present administration ; have been chairman of the Hon.
Mr. Crooks' Election Committees, and have taken an active part in politics.
There was no written agreement with any official of the government for the supply
of goods.
I am a wholesale and retail grocer, but my wholesale business is much the largest. I
furnish goods to the Government at wholesale prices. I have no memorandum of prices.
It is scarcely possible to take tenders for such goods. I did reply, and sent a list of prices
to Crown Lands Department. There was no other agreement except tender. I ship the
goods, and send the invoices to the foremen on the Colonization Roads.
In reply to question as to whether Messrs. W. Griffith, F. Smith & Co., P. G. Close
& Co., John Smith & Co., R. J. Griffith, and Geo. Michie & Co., had tendered for supplies,
the witness said : —
I was aware that most of the prominent merchants of Toronto had been asked to
tender.
(Evidence continued).
I do not know as a matter of fact whether my tender was the lowest, but I believe
it was.
The following synopsis of tenders received for supplies in 1874 was then read to the
witness : —
Name of Party
Tendering.
Tea.
Sugar.
Syrup.
Rice.
Soap.
Beans.
Flour.
Dried
Apples.
Win. Griffith....
30 @ 60
7|
45
5
5
1 30
cur. price.
cur. price.
F. Smith & Co...
50 " 75
SJ
45 @ 52
51
5£
cur. price.
ti
a
P. G. -Close & Co.
35 " 80
74® 9J
40 " 52
5
5 @ 74
M
n
ii
John Smith & Co.
30 " 60
74 " 9
424" 55
4| @ 5i
3 " 8
"
n
(t
R. J. Griffith
30 " 50
8
47
5
5
1 00
((
10?
Geo. Michie & Co.
J. Jaff ray
40 " 70
20 " 60
8 " 94
7i " 82
50 " 70
34 " 52
54 « 5i
5
5 » 7i
5
cur. price.
1 40
if
cur. price.
«
Witness. — I think my tender lower than those just read.
(Tenders here handed to witness for examination.)
Witness. — Taking the average prices throughout, I think my tenders were the
most favourable.
It would depend on the quality of the goods ordered, and the goods furnished.
Mr. Cashman frequently inspected the goods before they were shipped. I furnished
no tea as low as 20c. nor as low as 40c. per lb., unless this year. I did not furnish any
syrup as low as 32c. The quality of syrup furnished was as required by the Department.
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Syrups in 1875 were higher, and my prices were raised by arrangement with Mr
Cashman.
I had no information of a specific character from the Department as to the quality
of goods to be furnished, neither had I any intimation that any 20c. tea was required.
The contract price of soap was 5c. per lb., and 7c. were charged on account of a better
quality being required. I supplied green tea at 60c. and black at 55c. per lb. I also
furnished some rice to the Department at 5c. per lb. I was paid by cheque on the De-
partment on the evidence of Mr. Johnson, Assistant Commissioner, or of Mr. Bridgland.
I think I furnished tea at less than 55c. These increased prices were by arrangement
with Mr. Cashman. There were no arrangements or writings with the Commissioner or
the Department. I would have had a greater percentage of profit on the 20c. tea than on
the higher priced tea. It is impossible to classify syrups, as names and qualities change.
The quality of soap is more easily ascertained and classified by the factory where it is
made, and by the brand. The quality of soap sold at 7c. per lb., was a higher grade than
tendered for. My reason for saying that my tenders are the lowest, is that my minimum
prices are lower, and my maximum prices lower also on an average. I do not believe that
any merchant could furnish goods to the Department at a lower rate. The prices of teas
sold at the time would range about, as quoted in the tender, or about 60c. I considered
my tea as good as any sold in Canada ; I do not think we would charge any one 70c. for
it wholesale. The tea sold at 60c. would be about the best ; that sold at 55c. not quite
so good. These teas would retail at about 75c. and 80c. The sugar furnished was of
medium quality. The syrup was of the best ordinary quality. The teas furnished was
Young Hyson and Black tea of the best quality, but not fancy teas. My profits would be
about ten per cent. My tenders are as specific as others. I furnished supplies for different
roads. The superior quality of soap was sent by order of the Department through Mr.
Cashman. I charged wholesale prices for all.
JANUARY 19.
Mr. Jaffray's examination resumed.
Mr. Cashman, and one of the foremen came to me and complained of the quality of
soap for which they had paid 7 cents per lb. to the party who had supplied them previous
to 1874. They selected the quality of soap for which I charged 7 cents wholesale. I
made less percentage of profit on the soap supplied than I would have done by supply-
ing the article that was mentioned in my tender. By furnishing the higher priced soap
the additional expense to the Department would be about $36 per annum. 1 believe the
best quality is the most economical. I cannot account for the difference in the qualities
supplied in 1875 and 1876. I know positively that there is a modification of prices in
1876 in teas, but cannot say whether there was any modification in 1874 or 1875 with
regard to the other goods. I cannot tell the brand of the soap delivered throughout, but
the quality would be about equal to what is known as gold and silver bar.
(Signed) ROBERT JAFFRAY.
On the motion of Mr. Lauder it was ordered, — That the Tenders for supplies and
a synopsis of the accounts for 1874 and 1875, giving prices and quantities of goods
furnished by Mr. JafFray, be recorded in the minutes.
It was also ordered, — That Mr. J. W. Bridgland and Mr. C. Cashman be summoned
to give evidence to-morrow.
Adjourned.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
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TREASURER'S OFFICE,
FRIDAY, 19th January, 1877.
Committee met.
Present :
Mr. Clarke (Wellington), Chairman, Hon. Messieurs Crooks and Macdougall,
Messieurs Deacon, Meredith,
" Ferris, " Ross,
" Gibson, " Striker,
Hardy, " Williams,
Lauder, " Wills.
" Merrick,
On motion of Mr. Meredith it was resolved, — That all requisitions for witnesses and
papers be put in writing and handed to the Chairman.
Mr. Meredith also moved, — That the Tenders, circulars, or requisitions for Tenders ;
and Accounts for the supply of Groceries or other supplies to the several Public Institu-
tions for the years 1874 and 1875, be produced at the next meeting of the Committee.—
Carried.
Lists of the several newspapers received by the following Departments, &c., were
laid before the Committee.
Eeading Room, Legislative Assembly.
Attorney-General's Office.
Treasury Department.
Public Works "
Crown Lands "
Provl. Secretary's "
Immigration
Mr. Meredith moved that the lists now produced be entered in the minutes. —
Carried.
(See appendix to this day's minutes.)
On motion of Mr. Meredith, the following accounts were ordered to be produced :—
Page 43.— Messrs Blake, Kerr, & Boyd $346 43
" 44.— James Barber 2,973 47
On motion of Mr. Lauder, the following accounts were ordered to be produced : —
Page 43.— J. Stovel $48 00
" " T. Philips 46500
" " Lash & Co 440 40
" " G. Harrison 196-50
On motion of Mr. Lauder, it was ordered that Mr. R. H. Ramsay, Mr. Carrol,
Mr. Card and Mr. Judd be summoned to give evidence before this Committee, Mr.
Ramsay for Tuesday next. His accounts with the Department to be also produced.
Committee adjourned until Tuesday next.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
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A. 1877
Lists of Newspapers received by the Departments, Reading Room, &c., as asked for
by Resolution this day.
READING ROOM, HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY.
Where Published.
Name of Paper.
Where Published.
Name of Paper.
Acton .
Free Press
Ingersoll
Chronicle
Almonte
Gazette
Do
Oxford Tribune
Alliston
Star
Kincardine . . .
Review
Amherstburgh
Echo
Do
Bruce Reporter
Arnprior . . .
Canadian Times
Kingston
News
Arthur
Enterprize
Do
Whig
Aurora
Banner
Lindsay
Victoria "W^arder
Aylmer
Paper
Do
Post
Barrie
Northern Gazette
Listowel . ...
Banner
Do
Northern Advance
Do
Marturion
Do
Examiner
London
Free Press
Belleville
Daily Ontario
Do
Advertiser
Do
Daily Intelligencer
Do
Herald
Berlin
Telegraph
Do
Farmer's Advocate
Bobcaygeon
Independent
L'Orignal
Advertiser
Bothwell
Times
Markdale
Expositor
Bowmanville
Observer
Markham
Economist
Do
Statesman
Meaford
Monitor
Do
Merchant
Millbrook
Messenger
Do
West Durham News
Milton
Canadian Champion
Bradford
South Simco3 News
Do
\\^eekly Press
Brampton
Banner
Mitchell
Advocate
Do
Times
Morrisburgh
Courier
Brantford
Courier
Do
Dundas County Herald
Do
Canadian Temp. Advocate
Mount Forest
Examiner
Brighton
Ensign
Do
Confederate
Brockville
Recorder
Montreal .
Gazette
Do
Monitor
Do
Herald
Brussels
Post
Do
Witness
Cannington
North Ontario Gleaner
Napanee
Standard
Carleton Place
Herald
Do
Express
Haldimand Advocate
Do
Casket
Chatham . . ....
Banner
Do
Ontario Beaver
Do
Planet
New Hamburg
Volksblatt
Clinton
New Era
Newmarket
Era
Cobourg
Star'
Do
North York Reformer
Do
Sentinel
New York
Herald
Do
Advertising World
New York
Scottish American Journal
Colborne
Express
Norwood . ...
Register
Collin°rwood
Bulletin
Oakville
Express
Do
Enterprize
Orangeville
Sun
Dundas
True Banner
Do
Advertiser
Dunville
Gazette
Orillia
Packet
Dunham
Chronicle
Do
Expositor
Elmira •
Enzeiger
Do
Times
Elora
Observer
Oshawa
Vindicator
Do
Lightning Express
Do
Ontario Reformer
Exeter .
Times
Ottawa
Citizen
Embro
Planet •
Do
Free Press
Fergus
News Record
Owen -Sound
Times
Fenelon Falls
Gazette
Do
Advertiser
Forest
Express
Palmerston
Telegraph
Gait
Dumfries Reformer
Paisley
Advocate
Do
Reporter
Paris
Star
Gananoque
Reporter
Do
Transcript
Georgetown
Halton Herald
Parkhill
Gazette
Goderich .
Huron Signal
Pembroke
Observer
Do
Star
Do
Standard
Glencoe . .
Transcript
Perth
Expositor
Guelph
Daily Herald
Do
Courier
Do
Evening Mercury
Petrolia
Advertiser
Hamilton , . .
Christian Advocate
Peterborough . . .
Times
Do
New Dominion
Do
Examiner
Do
Evening Times
Do
Review
Do
Spectator
Parry Sound . .
North Star
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A. 1877
READING ROOM, HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY— Continaed.
Where published.
Name of Paper:
Where Published.
Name of Paper.
Picton
Gazette
.
Thorold
Post
Do
Times
Toronto
Globe
Do
New Nation
Do
Mail
Port Dover-
Erie Sun
Do
Leader
Port Elgin
Free Press
Do
Port Hope
Times
Do
Christian Guardian
Do
Guide
Do
Church Herald
Port Perry
North Ontario Observer
Do
British Amer Presbyterian
Do
Standard
Do
Journal of Education
Port Rowan
Spirit of the Age
Do
National
Prescott
Telegraph
Do
Orange Sentinel
Preston
Canadesche Evangelist
Do . .
\Veekly Advertiser
Prince Arthur's Landing.
Thunder Bay Sentinel
Do
Evangelical Churchman
Renfrew
Mercury
Do
Sanitary Journal
Richmond Hill
York Herald
Do
Irish Canadian
Sarnia
Canadian
Do
Tribune
Do
Do
Observer
Sault Ste. Marie
Algoma Pioneer
Trenton
Courier
Do
Northern Light
Uxbridge ... ....
Journal
Seaforth
Huron Expositor
Do
Guardian
Shelburne
Free Press
Walkerton
Telescope
Simcoe
Norfolk Reformer
Do
Die Glocke
Do
British Canadian
Do
Bruce Herald
St Catharines
Daily News
Waterford
Star
Do
Evening Journal
Waterloo .
Chronicle
St Thomas
Home Journal
Do
Banernfreund
Do
Weekly Despatch
Welland
Tribune
Do
Times
Do
Telegraph
Stratford
Whitby
Gazette
Do . .
Herald
Do
Chronicle
Do
Colonist
^Vindsor, Essex . .
Recorder
Strathroy '
Western Despatch
Do do
Times
Do
Age
Wingham
Times
Teeswater
News
Do
Review
Thamesville
Express
Woodstock
Sentinel
Thornbury
Union Standard
Do
Times
Tilsonbursrh . .
Observer
MISCELLANEOUS.
Do '..'.'....,..
Nova Scotian
Eganville
Freeman
St Johns
Daily News
Simcoe
Erie Sun
Do
Telegraph
Drayton
New Era
ATTORNEY-GENERAL'S OFFICE.
Where Published.
Name of Paper.
Where Published.
Name of Paper.
Amherstburgh
Barrie
Echo
Examiner
Kingston
Do
News
Whig
Do
Gazette
London
Advertiser
Belleville
Ontario
Do
Ont. Teacher & Home Com
Berlin
Telegraph
Do
Free Press
Bracebridge . .
Free Grant Gazette
Lindsay
Post
Brampton
Times
Milton
Champion
Do
Banner
Montreal
Gazette
Cornwall
Gazette
Do
Herald
Guelph
Mercury
Morrisburg
Herald
Hamilton
Spectator
Orangeville
Advertiser
Do
Times
Ottawa . .
Citizen
Inerersoll .
Chronicle
Do
Free Press
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A. 1877
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE— Continued.
Where Published.
Name of Paper.
Where Published.
Name of Paper.
Perth
Courier
Do
Leader
Parry Sound
North Star
Do
Monetary Times
Port Hope
Guide
Do
Sanitary Journal
Smith's Falls
News
Do
Court Circular
St. Catharines
News
Woodstock
Sentinel
St Thomas
Home Journal
Do
Times
Stratford
Beacon
Windsor
Record
Toronto .
Irish Canadian
Whitby
Chronicle
Do
Globe
Do
Chronicle
Do
Mail *
Waterloo
Chronicle
Do
Law Journal
London (Ensrland) . .
Solicitors' Journal
TREASURY DEPARTMENT.
Toronto IGlobe
Do
Do
Do
Barrie
Kingston
Napanee ....
Amherstburgh
Mail
Leader
National
Weekly Gazette
British Whig
Canada Casket
Echo
Hamilton (Times
Quebec Chronicle
Ingersoll 'Chronicle
London . . . . ! Advertiser
| Orange ville .
I Montreal . . .
Smith's Falls
Port Perry .
Advertiser
Herald
News
Standard
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
Toronto
Globe
Sault Ste. Marie
Northern Light
Do
Mail
Do
Pioneer
Do
Leader
Pembroke
Observer
Do
Observer
Parry Sound
North Star
Do
National
St. Catharines
Daily News
Kingston
British Whig
Montreal
Illustrated News
Orangeville
Advertiser
Port Perry
Standard
Peterborough . .
Times
Chatham
Planet
Ingersoll
Chronicle
Cayuga
London
Advertiser
Morrisburgh
Dundas County Herald
Berlin
Telegraph
Barrie
Examiner
Amherstburgh
Echo
Bracebridge
Free Grant Gazette
St. Thomas
Home Journal
Trenton
Courier
Toronto
DEPARTMENT Of
Globe
1 CROWN LANDS.
Arnprior
Do
Mail
Brantford
Courier
Do
Leader
Orillia
Times
Do
Grip
Do
National
Quebec
Chronicle "
Ottawa
Citizen
Parry Sound
North Star
Kingston
Whi"-
L'Orignal
Do
News
Perth
Courier
St Catharines
News
Whitby
Gazette
Arnprior
Star
Fenelon Falls
Gazette
Pembroke
Observer
Uxbridge
Journal
Napanee
Express
Collin°"wood
Bulletin
Orange ville
Advertiser
Bracebridge
Free Grant Gazette
Peterborough
Times
Barrie ...
Examiner
Listowel
Banner
Bobcaygeon
Independent
Berlin
Telegraph
Peterborough
Waterloo
Chronicle
Minden
Times
Montreal „. . . .
Canadian Illustrated News
Lindsay
Post
Guelph
Mercury
Orillia
Monck
Reform Press
Sault Ste Marie
Mount Forest
London
Express
Advertiser
Prince Arthur's Landing.
Chatham
Sentinel
Amherstburgh
Echo
Windsor
Record
Whitby
Chronicle
Sarnia. .
Observer
Hamilton
Times
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A, 1877
PROVINCIAL SECRETARY AND REGISTRAR'S OFFICE.
Where Published.
Name of Paper.
Where Published,
Name of Paper.
Milton
Canadian Champion
Waterloo
Chronicle
Hamilton
Evening Times
Morrisburgh
Dundas County Herald —
Renfrew
Canadian Times
2 copies
Ottawa . . .....
Times
Barrie . . .
Weekly Gazette
St. Catharines
Daily News
Guelph
Weekly Mercury — 2 copies
London
Advertiser
Trenton
Courier
Cayuga
Haldimand Advocate
Toronto
Evangelical Churchman
Orangeville
Advertiser — 2 copies
Ingersoll . . . ...
Chronicle
Prince Arthur's Landing.
Thunder Bay Sentinel
Uxbridge
Journal
Guelph
Daily Mercury
Barrie
Examiner — 2 copies — 1 for
Kingston
Whig
Prov Sec 1 for Registrar
St. Thomas
Home Journal
Smith's Falls
News
Chatham
Planet
Amherstburgh
Echo
Port Hope
Guide
Lindsay
Canadian Post
Markham
Economist
Sarnia
Observer
Brockville
Recorder
Berlin
Telegraph
Aylmer . .
Times
Sault Ste. Marie
Northern Light
- -
.!•»«»» 1 '•»
IMMIGRATION DEPARTMENT.
Toronto Globe
Do . , . Mail
Bracebridge Free Grant Gazette
Committee met.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
TUESDAY, 23rd Jan., 1877.
Present :
Mr. Clarke (Wellington), Chairman.
Hon. Messieurs Cameron, Crooks, and Wood,
Messieurs Deacon, Messieurs Merrick,
" Ferris, " Striker,
" Gibson, " Williams,
Meredith.— 11.
The minutes of the last meeting were read and confirmed.
Mr. C. Cashman, of the Crown Lands Department, was called, sworn and examined
in reference to supplies furnished the Department for Colonization Eoads.
Cornelius Cashman being sworn, deposed : — (Examined by Honk Mr. Crooks.)
I am an officer in the Colonization Eoad Branch of the Crown Lands Department.
The present system in ordering supplies to persons on the road is by advertising for
known brands of such as flour and pork ; other goods are bought in market after inspec-
tion. We advertise for known brands of goods. Articles that are variable are bought
at the best value of medium and serviceable goods, such as teas, rice, soaps, syrups and
goods of that description. The supplies are bought to supply the workmen, beginning 1st
May and ending in November. We make an estimate of pork and flour at the beginning
of the season, and buy such quantities of other articles as are required for about half the
season, because they are perishable, and there are no places but shanties to store them in.
The goods are bought in larger quantities when the distance to railways is greater. We
have the tenders for supplies for our branch for 1875— such as to throw light on my state-
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ment. I produce synopsis of the prices. We advertised last year for mess pork and a
particular brand of flour. I produce the tenders for pork supplies in 1874 ; they were
not advertised for, but I went around to dealers, and sot the tenders now produced. I
don't know that we advertised in 1875. I have not the tenders for 1876. I do not pro-
duce all the accounts of 1874. I can't say that we advertised for pork and flour before
1876. All the articles we advertised for tender for were pork and flour ; the other articles
can't well be advertised for, because they are not branded in such a way that you could
tell the quality of them when advertising. I inform myself of prices of these goods by
visiting houses in the City.. In syrups, teas, &c., I judge of quality in buying. I find
by the quotations given me and the quality shown, who can supply these goods as cheap
as I can g^t in the market. The synopsis of tenders for supplies, 1874, show the result of
my proceeding. I have been engaged in this work of the Department since Octobei,
1873. This particular duty was done before by Mr.Bridgland himself, I think, the Superin-
tendent. The goods were bought mostly in Toronto, but in some places, such as back of
Ottawa we obtained from persons in Pembroke the price of pork and flour. We found
flour could be bought cheaper there than here, and sent only pork. Wherever groceries
run short, in almost every instance from 25 per cent to 60 per cent more has to be paid
in other parts of the country than in Toronto. We find Toronto the best place to buy
general groceries, and even pork, except in one instance — Parry Sound — where we should
be able to buy American pork to the same advantage. I have been a grocer since 1852 ;
part of the time on my own account. The goods are sent to the overseer of the parti-
cular road by the person from whom we buy ; and he sends us invoice and duplicate —
railway or steamboat receipt, as the case may be — and he ships them. We arrive at the
cost of an article at any place 'but Toronto by adding to the price the freight. There is
scarcely a point on our roads but Toronto is the centre for purchasing. We can get goods
from Montreal to Toronto, as cheap as from Montreal to Ottawa, and so far, except back
of Ottawa, Toronto is the cheapest place to buy. My instructions in buying, were to get
the best medium, and if I could, buy to as good advantage from Mr. Jaffray to do so. I
judged Mr. Jaffray's prices by comparing them with those of P. G-. Close, from whom I
got samples of Teas ; John Smith— (teas), and Frank Smith & Co. (teas). The latter T
visited once. I don't think there have been over five or six barrels of sugar used in five
years. As to syrups, in 1874 we could have arrived at the quality of syrup, as Redpath
made brands of syrups, but since he is out of the market it can be got at any price, and
the only way to judge, is to test it. I judged Mr. Jaffray's syrups by getting quotations
from the parties named, and also from a broker named Stewart. As to rice, the price
fluctuates but very little, five cents has been the highest ; it has gone down to four arid a
half cents. In 1875 and 1876 it was as low as four and a half cents. These were the
ruling prices. Mr. Jaffray got all the purchases of that class of goods. He first tendered
in 1874, and the first purchases were made then, through me. The prices were given me
by him. Mr. Jaffray gave me quotations and after the items were submitted, Mr. Bridg-
land told me if I could buy from Jaffray as cheap as anywhere to get them there. In 1873
R. G, Griffith, corner Church and Front Streets, was supplying goods. I went to him in
1874, as I was told to get tenders from leading wholesale men. Mr. Jaffray got the con-
tract because I reported that on the whole his goods were cheapest. [Hon. Mr. Cameron
thought the Committee would have to have Mr. Griffith's accounts of 1872 and 1873.
Hon. Mr. Crooks requested witness to make synopsis of them, which Mr. Cashman agreed
to do.] Mr. Cashman continued — There were tenders for certain quantities of pork and
flour. We didn't go to Jaffray, for he didn't deal directly in them. When the amount
was distributed and we wanted more, we permitted Mr. J affray to complete a bill sent in
by an overseer when it would be a small quantity. In 1874 Gardner and Ramsey got the
contract for pork and flour. I could show the difference in prices, l>ut pork varies. In
1874 I got offers from Gardner & Ramsay, Bailling & Grainger, J. Herson, Neil Johnson,
D. Cowan, Morrison, Taylor & Co., and that of Gardner & Ramsay was accepted, for they
agreed to deliver Canadian pork, and the others would not, and it is worth from 50c to
$1.50 a barrel more than other pork. In 1875 we either took the same method or adver-
tised ; I don't know. The same people got the supply. In 1876 R. A. Ramsay & Co. got
the supply. They were publicly advertised for. In 1874 flour was got in the same way
as the pork. I think, but am not prepared to say, either Mr. Ramsay or Mr. Jaffray got
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the flour, I think. In 1875 the same process was followed with flour as to pork. Mr.
Jaffray or Mr. Ramsy got the supply.
[The witness agreed to give a list of persons for 1874, 1875, and 1876, offering to
supply, and also a synopsis of tenders.]
In 1876 we advertised, and R. H. Ramsay got the supply of flour.
[Hon. Mr. Cameron suggested that witness should make out a memo, of prices paid
Mr. Jaffray ; also a statement of flour and pork actually purchased from Mr. Jaffray and
prices paid for it.]
Witness to Mr. Cameron : — Mr. Jaffray had a contract for flour in one year. Pre-
vious to coming into the Crown Lands Department in 1873, I was engaged in the grocery
trade. I had been winding up the estate of, and travelling for, the late Jas. Stock. I was
first in the Land Branch. About the middle of October, 1873, I entered the Coloniza-
tion Branch. I entered the Government service in 1872. I thought I was to be perma-
nently engaged, but found I was not. I was afterwards put on the permanent list. The
Superintendent knows by the invoices whether they agree with the tenders or not. He
is not furnished with information from the Department as to the price and quality of
goods to be supplied other than the merchant's invoice. He gets a duplicate of the goods
that are sent. The overseers are furnished by the Department with a duplicate invoice
of the goods. In ordering supplies the prices agreed upon would govern. When order-
ing a chest of tea we agree on the price with the seller, and anything extra would be
specially agreed on. In 1875, in the account of Mr. Jaffray, I would not say as to the
order for Young Hyson. In selecting the teas we select these qualities as being the best
medium priced teas, so as to get the best value for the Department and the men. In giv-
ing the order for tea I made the selection of prices from 20c. to 60c. I referred the
price to the Superintendent, who agreed to buy teas at 55c. to 60c. The arrangment was
made with Mr. Jaffray 's foreman. I didn't see Mr. Jaffray half a dozen times. I made
the arrangement at the commencement of our purchases from Mr. Jaffray 's foreman, that
he was to always furnish tea at 55c. to 60c. unless otherwise ordered. The foreman's
name is Mr. Ryan. The arrangement was made with him. I told him to never depart
from these prices and qualities unless otherwise ordered. I don't consider Mr. Robert
Griffith's teas at 30c. to fiOc. of the same grade in proportion to price as Mr. Jaffray's at
20c. to 60c. I don't think I compared Mr. Griffith's 50c. tea with Mr. Jaffray's 55c.
Whenever there was to be a change made I consulted with Mr. Bridgland, who frequent-
ly decided in accordance with my judgment. Mr. Jaffray's prices varied in 1875 on ac-
count of fluctuation in the market. His teas never exceeded 60c. Black tea is one price
and green another ; but some of the men like it mixed, and we try to please them. In
ordering goods I gave them as good an idea as I could ; e. g., in teas I would say we want
medium ; in syrup, I would say we want the best golden. It did not strike me as odd
that Mr. Jaffray should tender for syrup at 34c. to 52c. Mr. Wm. Griffiths makes only
one price — 45c.- — but I know he couldn't buy it and lay it down for the money. I was
as well posted in the prices as the dealers. Robert Griffith quoted 47c. ; Frank Smith
& Co. put it at 52c. ; Close & Co., put it at 40c. to 52c. Mr. Jaffray's prices would
average lower by ranging from the lower to the higher price, and striking the average.
In ordering goods we sometimes do it in writing. Where we didn't go and order them,
we would write. We have all the invoices on file. On goods delivered to the Northern
Railway there is a charge for cartage, but in the G. T. R. and G. W. R. there is not.
Mr. Jaffray charges only cartage to Northern and Nipissing railways. We make arrange-
ments that pork and flour are to be delivered. We don't do this with other goods ; if we
did we would have to pay for it in some other way. I handed the tenders to Mr. Bridg-
land. It was by instructions from him that I bought from Mr. Jaffray. I was not called
in with him to the Commissioner to consult as to these prices. I think flour and pork
were to be supplied at the current market price. WTe send the duplicate of the invoices
to the overseer, and he certifies it. It is included in his account at the end of the year,
and the goods are counted against the appropriation for his share of the road. When a
bill comes in it is examined, brought before the Assistant Commissioner, and a requisition
made for the amount. The bills are paid on the receipt of the railway bill if asked for,
without any immediate checking as to whether they reached their destination, other than
the railway receipt. As a rule we have had no complaints of the goods. Mr. Bridglaud
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estimates the supplies we want. I know the basis of those for flour and pork. A bbl. of
pork would be required for every $200 of appropriation under overseers. I think that is
the estimate. He does not ascertain the staff of men first. There is no estimate of teas,
&c., made up, as of pork and flour. If there is, say, $3000 or $4000 of an appropriation,
there would be about 40 men working, who would require about 60 Ibs. of tea. We can-
not estimate what is to be used, but we send what we think will do in the meantime.
When the accounts come in we examine the amounts used. I can't say, but I have recol-
lection that a man consumes from one-eighth to one-half oz. tea per day. Stores left
over are sold by the overseer at the works or near them, or amongst the men. He swears
to his account of goods thus sold.
To Mr. Meredith : — I told Mr. Jaffray I wanted good medium goods. He could not
supply good medium tea at 20 cents. The teas supplied, were, in my judgment, the best
qualities for the money. I think I made an estimate as to who gave the lowest tender. I
do not know how I made it. I concluded as to the syrups by their actual quality. I
understood that the tenders showed what goods would be supplied for. The term " mar-
ket prices " means that the tenderer would furnish the goods at the market price on the
very date the order was given. For variable goods they were not to be bound as to price.
In 1874 flour and pork were asked for. I cannot say whether the lowest tender was ac-
cepted. The reason for accepting Ramsay's was, I think, because he said he would fur-
nish Canadian fed pork. I think his price was lOc. higher. The quotations obtained
would serve as a guide to the Commissioner as to the prices. I don't know why Herson's
or Neil Johnston's tender was not accepted. I never informed the Commissioner of the
political views of tenderers. I was never asked as to the political views of any of them,
and don't know how the Government got any information. I cannot say on whose recom-
mendation Gardner and Ramsay's tender was accepted [tender produced and read]. The
word " accepted " is in Mr. Bridgland's writing. There was no record made in the De-
partment of the change in price of syrup and soap. Mr. Judd, I think, an overseer, came in
and wanted to select some hardware, such as pickaxes. I went with him to Mr. Hewitt's
and he selected the articles wanted. He then complained of the soap which had been sup-
plied the previous year at 7c., and I told him I didn't think he could get any better, for
the present contract was for 5c. We went to Jaffrey's, and I selected a 7c. article, and we
saw the Superintendent who saw the Commissioner, and we afterwards ordered 7c. soap
to be sent. I think the overseer's name was Judd. I did not communicate to any of
the other foremen the change I had made.
Mr. Cashman was instructed to prepare and submit to the Committee a synopsis of
tenders and accounts for supplies for Colonization Roads. Also, a statement of pork and
flour actually bought from Mr. Robert Jaffray.
Mr. Cashman was ordered to appear for further examination to-morrow.
Mr. Bridgland and Mr. R. H. Ramsay were also requested to be present to-morrow.
Committee adjourned.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
MEMO. — By Resolution of the House, this day, the name of Mr. Ballantyne was sub-
stituted for that of Mr. Hay on the Committee on Public Accounts.
WEDNESDAY. Jan. 24, 1877.
Mr. Cashman's examination continued from yesterday : —
To Mr. Crooks. — I produce synopsis of maximum and minimum prices paid in 1874,
1875, and 1876, on articles specified : syrup, tea, rice, soap, sugar, apples, flour, beans
and pork (c); also prices paid for supplies in 1872 and 1873 — same articles (d) • also
synopsis of tender of pork for 1876, prepared by the Superintendent for the Com-
missioner. The Commissioner's initials show what were approved of by him. The
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tenders came in in response to an advertisement. Most of the articles vary in prices*
I could not say to-day what they would be from three to six months hence ; but in
pork and flour the prices advanced towards the end of the season.
To Mr. Deacon. — The advertisements for tenders in 1876 were published by poster.
I am not certain that it was advertised in papers ; I think it was in the Globe and Mail.
I know that the posters were put up. I saw them around the city. The advertise-
ment in the papers would be like the poster. [Document F put in.] The posters
were put up about four days after the date on them. I saw the posters up about
four days after being given to the printer, which I think was the llth of February, 1876.
I left the copy on the messenger's table, I think, on the 1 1th of February. I could not
swear positively about the date. I can swear I made out the poster.
To the Chairman. — Pork and flour are generally bought through the winter, as
they are then the cheapest, The other goods are bought through the season, as wanted.
I am accustomed to informing myself of the prices current published in the Globe and
Mail, and comparing them with the prices asked for goods. [File of Toronto Globe of
Thursday, May 28th, 1874, produced.] Young Hyson tea, medium, is quoted from 60c.
to 75c. I doubt if we got any sugar at this date from Mr. Jaffray. [The Globe, of June
26th, 1874, could not be found on the file.]
To Mr. Hardy. — The tea quoted at 60c. to 75c., we were paying Mr. Jaffray 55c. to
60c. for.
Witness continued. — On May 28th, 1874, teas were quoted in the Globe, medium to
choice, 65c. to 75c. ; Syrups, Golden, 60c. to 62Jc. That was the quality 1 purchased
from Jaffray. Standard Syrup is 57Jc. to 58c. We never sent out Standard Syrups.
[File of Toronto Mail produced.] On May 18th, 1874, Young Hyson, 36c. to 40c. ;
superior to fine, 50c. to 60c. On May 20th, 1875, medium to good seconds, 48c. to 58c. ;
Yoang Hyson, medium to good, 70c. to 80c. ; Young Hyson, common, 32c. to 38c. The
best grade of medium would be 48c. to 58c. ; standard syrups, 53c. to 55c. ; golden, 55c.
to 59c.
To Mr. Hardy — We were getting goods from Jaffray less than quoted prices ; but I
think they can, in some instances, be bought less than quoted prices for cash.
To Mr. Merrick — Medium tea, 60c. to 75c., quoted in the Globe, May 28th, 1874, was
the quality bought by me for 55c. to 60c. I could buy tea for 55c. that would be quoted
for 60c. All such quotations are understood to be credit prices, three, four or five months.
Cash and credit prices vary from one-and-half to three per cent. Tea is considered four
months' goods, and subject to a discount of two-and-half per cent. The lower quotation
of the medium in the Globe at 60c., would be about the goods we purchased, and is sub-
ject to two-and-half per cent discount. I cannot say that the goods would correspond
exactly with the quotation in the Globe at 60c. There were tenders for pork in 1874 ;
none, I think, in 1875. In 1874 the price accepted was $18.50. The quantity named
was 150 barrels. We purchased about 50 or 60 more than the contract — about 210 bar-
rels in all. We paid from $21 to $26 for the extra 60 barrels. The contract was made
early in the spring ; the extra barrels were bought as wanted. We estimated approxim-
ately as to the pork required. We supposed 150 barrels would be all we would want.
The price was $18.50 delivered any time during the year. Pork advanced almost every
week from the making of the contract. In 1875 there was a contract, but not a public
one. The arrangement was made by Mr. Bridgland.
To Mr. Ferris — I am acting under Mr. Bridgland, and am not a responsible officer
of the Department. I am acting as an accountant in the Department, and a part of my
business is as an expert as to prices, and to find if the goods purchased are worth the
prices paid. The quotations of teas and syrups are to the trade ; goods run into each
other in all grades. I try always to get the best value. I would not buy the same qual-
ity of syrup as I would tor family use. I have a good idea of what is needed, because
formerly I had similar accounts in my own trade. The tenders for pork, 1874, run from
about $18.40 to $19.25.
To Mr. Crooks — It was the Commissioner's duty to decide on these matters. I re-
ported to the Superintendent, and the decision finally rested between him and the Com-
missioner. I had no power myself to decide on a selection.
C. CASHMAN.
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TREASURER'S OFFICE,
Wednesday, 24th Jan., 1877.
Committee met.
Prt-sent :
The Chairman,
Hon Messieurs Crooks and Wood,
Messieurs Ballantyne, Messieurs Hardy,
Deacon, " Merrick,
" Gibson, " Striker,
" Ferris, " Williams.—! 1.
Mr. Cashman produced paper marked A, being synopsis of tenders for supplies.
Also, paper marked B, being tenders for pork in the year 1874.
Also, paper marked C, being maximum and minimun prices paid for supplies in 1874,
1875, 1876.
Also, paper marked D, showing prices paid for supplies in 1872 and 1873.
Also, paper marked E, being synopsis of pork tenders for 1876.
Also, paper marked F, being poster for tenders, and bonds and contract with R. H.
Ramsay & Co. for pork and flour in 1876.
Ordered that copies of the above papers be recorded in the minutes.
Mr. Cashman was further examined, after which his whole evidence was read to and
signed by him.
Adjourned until 11 o'clock to-morrow.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
Copies of papers produced by Mr. Cashman, marked A, B, C, D> E, and F,
respectively.
(For Papers marked A, see Minutes of 18th January).
(B.)
TENDERS FOR PORK IN THE YEAR 1874.
TORONTO, April 21st, 1874.
We make offer of (150) one hundred and fifty barrels Western Mess Pork, to be
delivered as required, at any of the railway stations of Toronto, for nineteen dollars and
one quarter ($19.25) net cash on delivery of invoice. Pork not repacked.
This offer left open until noon to-morrow, the 2 2nd instant.
(Signed) BAILIE & GRANGER.
TORONTO, April 20th, 1874.
We will undertake to sell and deliver to any railroad station in the city, 150 barrels
Heavy Mess, at such times as may be ordered, unrepacked, at $18.90.
Open until noon, April 22nd, 1874.
(Signed) MORRISON, TAYLOR & Co.
TORONTO, 21st April, 1874.
T hereby agree to deliver in such quantities, and at such times during the season as
may be required, (150) one hundred and fifty barrels heavy Canadian Mess Pork, at any
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A. 1877
railway station in the city, free of cartage, storage and insurance, at ($18.50) eighteen
dollars and fifty cents per barrel.
These terms are to be payable on delivery of invoice.
Offer open until noon, Thursday, the 23rd instant.
(Signed) J. HERSON.
TORONTO, 21st April, 1874.
I will sell you one hundred and fifty barrels first rate Heavy Mess Pork $18.40
eighteen dollars and forty cents per barrel f.o.b., at any railroad station in this city, in
lsuch quantities and at such times as may be required, free of storage and insurance.
(Signed) NEIL JOHNSON,
TORONTO, 21st April, 1874.
We hereby agree to deliver to any of the railway stations in this city, one hundred
and fifty barrels Heavy Mess Pork, for the sum of eighteen dollars and fifty cents ($18.50)
per barrel, provided the same be paid when the purchase is made, or be settled by note,
bearing the usual bank interest if time is required. We further bind ourselves to deliver
the same at any time, and in any quantity, as the purchaser may desire, and also to keep
the said pork in good order while it remains in our possession, free from storage,
insurance, &c.
(Signed) GARDNER & RAMSAY.
We also guarantee that the above pork, so to be delivered, shall be corn-fed.
(Signed) GARDNER & RAMSAY.
(Accepted).
TORONTO, 21st April, 1874.
We hereby agree to deliver one hundred and fifty (150) barrels Heavy Mess Pork as
may be desired during the summer, at any of the railway stations here in good order and
condition, free of storage, cartage, and insurance, at eighteen dollars and fifty cents
per barrel.
Offer open till noon to-morrow.
(Signed) D. COWAN & Co.
(C.)
Maximum and minimum prices paid in 1874, 1875, and 1876.
Year.
Syrup.
Tea.
Rice.
Soap.
Sugar.
Dried
Apples.
Flour.
Beans.
Pork.
1874
c. c.
52 @ 55
c. c.
55 @ 60
c. c.
41 © 5
c.
7
c.
c.
lOi
$ c.
6 10
to
$ c.
1 20
to
$ c. $ c.
18 50 to 26 00
about 60 Bbls. from
1875
55
55 @ 60
4£ @ 5
7
9
6 25
475
1 25
1 65
21 00 to 26 00
20 75 to 23 00
1876
55
40 @ 60
4£@5
7
B*
8
to
5 75
5 50
1 20
23 00
1875. — 200 barrels flour from Mr. Jaffray at commencement of season.
About 75 barrels afterwards from him and others.
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A. 1877
(D.)
Prices paid for supplies in 1872 and 1873.
Year.
Syrup.
Tea.
Rice.
Soap.
Sugar.
Dried
Apples.
Flour.
Pork.
Beans.
c.
c. c.
c.
c.
c.
c.
$ c.
$ $
$ c.
1872
55
55 @ 60
41
7
6 50
16
2 50
1873
55
60
4£
7
9i
9
6 50
19 @ 20
2 50
Bousted for pork only.
Griffith for all other supplies and some pork.
(E.)
Synopsis of Tenders for Pork, 1876.
Persons Tendering.
D, Cowan & Co.
James Herson
R. H. Ramsay & Co.
William Davies & Co.
G. W. Walker . . .
J. & A. Clarke . . .
Davidson & Scott.
James Johnston .
K. H. Ramsay & Co.
J. & A. Clarke
Tender.
$25.00.
$24.00 .*...
PM
$23.00...
$21.50
Only 150 Barrels.
$23.50.
$24.75.
$23.00.
FLOUR.
$5.50
$5.50
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Remarks.
Security — Marked Cheque.
B. Montreal.
D. Gunn & Co. — Morrison & Taylor
J. B. Smith -Robert Jaffray.
Terms not complied with.
Not to be delivered at separate times.
No storage expense or insurance.
Not Canadian.
Sureties not known.
Sureties not known.
Offer to buy on commission.
Sone of the parties are known,
[nsurance and storage do {not seem to be in-
cluded.
Same Sureties.
No Sureties named.
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POSTER AND CONTRACT FOR FLOUR AND PORK WITH R. H. RAMSAY.
Tenders addressed to the Commissioner of Crown Lands and marked " Tenders for
Pork and Flour," will be received up to twelve o'clock noon, on Wednesday, the first day
of March next, for
200 barrels of Canadian Mess Pork.
200 barrels of Flour (Extra).
Inspected.
To be delivered in good sound order and condition, in such quantities and at
such times throughout the year, as may be ordered ; free of storage, cartage, insurance
and all other expenses, on board of any of the railway cars in this city, as directed.
Tenders to be accompanied by the names of two solvent sureties in the sum of $1,500,
each, for the due performance of contract.
The Commissioner does not bind himself to accept the lowest or any tender.
(Signed) T. B. PARDEE,
Commissioner.
Department of Crown Lands,
Toronto, llth February, 1876.
KNOW ALL MEN BY THESE PRESENTS, that we R H. Ramsay & Co., provision merchants
of Toronto, John B. Smith, and Robert Jaffray of the same place, are held and firmly bound
unto Her Majesty, the Queen, her heirs and successors, in the sum of fifteen hundred dol-
lars each of lawful money of Canada, to be paid to Her Majesty, her heirs and successors ;
to which payment well and truly to make we bind ourselves and each of us, by himself for
and in the whole, our heirs executors, and administrators and every of us firmly by these
presents.
Sealed with our seals, and dated this first day of March, in the year of our Lord, one
thousand, eight hundred and seventy-six.
Whereas the above bounden, R. H. Ramsay & Co., has contracted and agreed to and
with the Commissioner of Crown Lands, to make sale of and deliver to him, the said
Commissioner or his order, two hundred barrels of Canadian Mess Pork, and two hun-
dred barrels of Flour, (Extra,) according to the terms of a Poster Bill hereto annexed,
subscribed by the above bounden parties, with reference to these presents in every respect,
agreeably to the conditions laid down in said hereunto annexed poster, and that for the
prices following, viz : — For the Pork the sum of twenty-three dollars per barrel, and for
the Flour, the sum of five dollars and fifty cents per barrel, to be paid upon the execution
of this Bond.
Now the condition of the above obligation is such that if the said R. H. Ramsay, &
Co., their heirs, executors and administrators, shall have well and truly, and in every
respect executed the said contract in accordance with the said hereto annexed Poster Bill,
and the terms and conditions thereof, subject always to the approval of the superintendent
of Colonization Roads for Ontario, on the date of the issue of the last order for the said
two hundred barrels of pork and flour, then this obligation to be void and of none effect,
otherwise to be and remain in full force and virtue.
Signed, sealed and executed, (Signed) R. H. RAMSAY & Co., [L.S.]
in presence of JOHN B. SMITH, [L.S.]
(Signed) WM. G. WRIGHT. ROBERT JAFFRAY, [L.S.]
Toronto, 6th day of March, 1876.
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TREASURER'S OFFICE,
THURSDAY, 25th January, 1877.
Committee met at 11 o'clock A.M.
Present :
The Chairman, Messieurs. Striker,
Hon. Mr. Crooks, " Williams,
Messieurs. Ferris, " Wills.
Gibson.
Adjourned at 11-20 A.M., for want of a quorum, till 11 o'clock A.M. 'on Tuesday
next.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
TUESDAY, 30th January, 1877.
Committee met.
Present :
Messieurs Clarke (Wellington) Chairman, Hon. Messieurs Crooks and Wood,
" Ballantyne, " Striker,
" Ferris, " Williams,
" Gibson, " Wills.
" Ross.
Moved by Honourable Mr. Crooks, Seconded by Mr. Ferris and Resolved, — That
the Committee present a Report to the House this day, asking that the quorum be reduced
to seven members.
Mr. J. W. Bridgland of the Crown Lands Department appeared, and being first
sworn was examined in reference to the mode of obtaining supplies for Colonization Roads.
(See evidence of Mr. Bridgland, marked B, appended to this day's minutes.)
Mr. Bridgland produced papers marked G. H. I. and K. respectively, which were
ordered to be recorded in the minutes.
Mr. Bridgland's evidence was read to and signed by him.
Ordered, that Mr. R. H. Ramsay be summoned to give evidence To-morrow.
Adjourned.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
The following Report was presented to the House this day : —
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario.
The Standing Committee on Public Accounts beg leave to present the following as
their
FIRST REPORT.
Your Committee report that at its Session of to-day (30th January 1877), the fol-
lowing resolution was adopted :—
" That inasmuch as some members of the Committee have met on several occasions,
but have been unable to proceed at the hour appointed for the meeting of the Committee,
the quorum being fixed at the number of nine ; and that number not being present, and
considerable loss of time having resulted therefrom, it is therefore resolved, — That the
Chairman be requested to ask the House to reduce the number necessary to form a quorum
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to the number |of seven." The Committee, therefore, recommend the reduction of the
quorum of the Committee to seven members.
All which they respectfully submit.
(Signed) C. CLARKE,
Chairman.
Committee Room,
30th January, 1877.
Copies of Papers produced by Mr. J. W. Bridgland, marked G. H. I. and K.
respectively.
(G.)
Memo :
DEPARTMENT CROWN LANDS.
*
With reference to the purchase of Canadian Pork, I am satisfied from enquiry, that
the offer of " Gardner & Ramsay " to furnish the same, store, and deliver, through the
season, is the lowest possible remunerating figures that it can be had for.
Indeed it is so close that you will see as below it is a question whether they can save
themselves on the contract.
200 Ibs. Pork at $8.50 per ct , $17 00
Barrel... 2 00
19 00
Leaving only 1 75
For salt, labour, cartage and deduction for shoulders, feet and heads. I therefore re-
commend that their offer be accepted forthwith.
(Signed) J. W. BRIDGLAND.
9th March, 1875.
Approved. (Signed) T. B. PARDEE,
Commissioner.
Memo:
DEPARTMENT CROWN LANDS.
I have made enquiry in the matter of groceries and flour to be furnished and shipped
for the use of road works during the present season, and am quite satisfied Mr. J affray's
prices are as low (for the articles referred to) as any in this city, taking the quality of
the articles into consideration.
I therefore recommend that our supplies in the above line, needed for the works of
the season, be ordered from Mr. Jaffray, Grocer &c., of Yonge street.
(Signed) J. W. BRIDGLAND.
9th March, 1875.
Approved (Signed) T. D. PARDEE,
Commissioner.
(I-)
TORONTO, 5th April, 1875.
Department of Crown Lands,
Bought of Robert Jaffray,
200 Barrels Flour at $4.75 $950 00
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I agree to deliver the above when ordered, taking all risk. Guaranteeing quality
when delivered.
(Signed) E. JAFFRAY.
(K.)
Messrs. Gardner & Ramsay.
DEPARTMENT OF CROWN LANDS.
COLONIZATION ROAD BRANCH,
TORONTO, 9th March, 1875.
GENTLEMEN, — The Department will accept your offer to supply 200 ban-els of Canadian
Pork (Mess) at $20.75 per barrel, provided you agree to keep the same in good order, free
of storage, Insured from loss by fire or otherwise, and delivered in such quantities and at
finch times as may be ordered by this Department.
Your obedient servant,
(Signed) J. W. BRIDGLAND,
Superintendent of Colonization Roads.
The above terms accepted.
(Signed) GARDNER & RAMSAY.
Mr. J. W. Bridgland's evidence given this day is as follows :
TORONTO, Tuesday, Jan. 30, 1877.
James W. Bridgland, being sworn, deposed :
To Mr. Crooks. — I am Superintendent of Colonization Roads in the Crown Lands
Department. I have held the office for about thirteen years. I have been in the employ
of the Crown Lands Department 21 years. I was previously Senior Surveyor. I am a
Provincial Land Surveyor by profession. In road making I have 13 or 14 years exper-
ience, and in reference to building bridges. My duties have been, during the 14 years,
those of managing and repairing roads, by making preliminary arrangements, &c. I first
make a general report of the roads wanted. This is laid before the Commissioner, and is
considered, as well as suggestions from outside. We make our estimates from these sug-
gestions and applications from outside. We have made from 50 to 60 colonization roads
since I have been Superintendent. The roads are generally suggested by the wants of the
country, having reference to the tracks of back country that are being opened for settle-
ment. The late David Gibson, P.L.S., was Superintendent of Colonization Roads doing
outside work before I was appointed Superintendent. New roads were first located and
surveyed under rny own written instructions, subject to revision by the Department. The
road was sometimes let by contract ; sometimes an overseer was appointed, ami instucted
how it was to be built ; he was allowed generally to purchase his own supplies — that was
the first method. The overseer was obliged to report on the road at times, and the road
was examined once or twice a year by myself. The only important change of mode has
been in providing supplies for carrying on the work. We found in some cases the cost of
boarding the men was very great, and in about 1864, I recommended advertising for
tenders for boarding the men. 1867 was the last year we tried that plan, — we did not
find it reduced the cost of supplies. The board was, on an average, $3 to $3.50 a week.
The result was not satisfactory. After 1867 I proposed to purchase supplies myself from
the best dealers, securing them on the lowest terms, and sending them out. This plan
was pursued till 1874, except in some few cases. I purchased the supplies myself, with-
out any tenders. Before that the only tenders were from persons to board and lodge the
men. In 1874 it was decided to ask tenders for main supplies, flour, pork, &c. The
tenders were in the shape of offers from leading Toronto firms, who were asked to send
prices. I saw some of the parties, but as my clerk was a grocer, I sent him personally,
except where I saw some parties myself. The proposed tenders for supplies were decided
bv me. My clerk, Mr. Cashman, had not power to decide. He submitted them to me,
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and I reported my views to the Commissioner. The Commissioner approved of my sugges-
tions. In 1875 we did not take tenders. Satisfaction was given by the parties in the first
year, and we purchased from the same parties. In 1874 flour was not tendered for, we pur-
chased according to current market prices. In 1875 we purchased 200 bbls from Mr,
Jaffray at the lowest figure, same quality. The quantity did not last us all year, and
Mr. Jaffrey supplied balance at market price. I recommended the plan of buying flour
in the spring, of 1875, because flour was down that year to $4.50 per bbl. In 1874
Gardner & Ramsay had supplied pork, and in consulting prices of 1875 we found they
gave us low rates, and purchased from them. I produce the Report of this purchase,
(Appendix G.) which I gave to the Commissioner and which was approved. I produce
Report as to groceries and flour (Appendix H). Also Mr. Jaffray's offer Appendix I) fr
also acceptance of Gardner & Ramsay's offer (Appendix K). In 1876 we asked, by
posters, for tenders for pork and flour. The replies were reported upon. I produce the
report (Document E). It is a synopsis of tenders, with my remarks thereon, and the
Commissioner's decision. In 1876 general groceries were bought of Mr. Jaffray. Mr^
Cashman went and selected such articles as he thought were good and sound, ac-
cording to my instructions. I called myself and exercised my judgment. I believe we
got the best goods at the lowest prices. In 1874, 1875 and 1876, we had occasional com-
plaints from overseers, but very little. Pork is subject to be damaged in transport over
long roads, and if particular care is not taken, it will suffer. We may have had three or
four complaints as to pork. In 1874 — and in all the years — there were no substantial
complaints that would have inclined us to change the parties. In previous years we may
have had occasional complaints. As to soap, in 1874, we had some complaints, but sent
a suitable article. I always considered it my duty to attend personally to the supplies.
I do not see any better method of obtaining supplies than we pursued. It would be very
difficult to obtain offers for all the small articles of general groceries. We could not ob-
tain satisfactory tender of any articles but from flour to pork, because they are standard
staple articles, subject to inspection and were always inspected, but the others are not,
I am satisfied that our present mode of supplying the men is more economical than that
of tenders for boarding the men. 1 am able to state this as a matter of fact, for we make
an analysis of the cost, and the results prove the economy of the present course. Board
ranges at $2.25 to $2.50 under the present system, while by tender it was $3.00 to $3.50,
There is thus a difference in the cost of the road per mile. From time to time we are also
making other improvements in connection with unproved specifications. Latterly we have
had two Inspectors — one east and one west — who are on continual travel, and are report-
ing continually. We have had one Inspector employed since 1868. Since 1872-1873
we have had two. They also manage the location of roads, under instructions, and save
the cost of a surveyor. They report to the Commissioner through me. I am thus able
to know what is wanted on every road and to give instructions. The Inspectors visit
companies of workmen, and embody in their reports anything wanted by the men, and
in what condition the supplies are. The party who supplies goods sends us duplicate in-
voice and shipppiug bill. One copy of the invoice is mailed to the overseer, and he
checks his supplies by it when they arrive. He does not specially report unless something
is missing, when he would call the attention of the Department to it. At the end of
the season the unconsumed supplies are generally sold by the Inspectors, or if the roads-
are contiguous we put the remnants together and instruct him to sell them as well as pos-
sible. In some things there is a sacrifice ; if not damaged, the food supplies generally
produce the cost. Tools are used up generally at the close of the season and we dispose
of them for what we can get, we retain those fit for service the following year.
To Mr. Wills. — Tea at 20c. would not be the standard we wanted tendered for. In
1874 we did not advertise. We had no samples sent with tenders, which were judged
by themselves, and the qualities inspected separately. The prices were judged as a whole.
We judged Mr. Jaffray's tender to be as low as any other, taking all things into con-
sideration. Mr. Robert Griffith's tender for syrup was 47c. We did not inspect it. Mr,
Griffith had supplied soap previously at 7c. I had heard a complaint in one particular
instance of the quality of the soap by an overseer, through Mr. Cashman, but cannot say-
positively from whom that soap was purchased. We accepted Mr. Jaffray's tenders and
inspected his articles. It was the firm of W. & R. Griffith, who had formerly supplied*
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us. We used sugar very little — seven barrels in three years. Mr. Jaffray furnished us
the best quality of golden syrup for 55c. We ascertained it could not be Bought in the
market for less. We did not get samples with the tenders. I di 1 not examine the
goods of the several persons who tendered. I did not compare Mr. Griffith's and Mr.
Jaffray's teas, or any other articles, one with another. In comparing prices, we con-
sidered the prices as a whole. Mr. Jaffray's lowest price for tea was lower than Mr.
Griffith's, and his highest price for tea was higher than Mr. Griffith's. We, therefore,
got from Mr. Jaffray a greater range.
To Mr. Ross. — In looking at the synopsis of the tenders produced, I find that some
of Mr. Jaffray's prices are lower than Mr. Griffith's.
To Mr. Wills. — We did not always want the lowest priced goods, as the quality was
not good enough. This was the case with soap. A good reliable dealer and an examiner
of the articles will guarantee the best satisfaction. During the past season the mo&t in-
telligent overseers testify, without inquiry, that all the supplies have been better than
previous years.
To Mr. Ross. — Asking for tenders in 1874 was an experiment. We have found since
that in such articles as we want our present plan is the best. •
To Mr. Wills. — We were perfectly satisfied with Messrs. Griffith's goods. It was
W. & B. Griffith.
To the Chairman. — I think our rate of board last year has been less than any pre-
vious year.
J. W. BRIDGLAND.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
Wednesday, Jan. 31st, 1877.
Committee met.
Present :
The Chairman.
Messieurs Deacon, Messieurs Merrick,
" Ferris, " Ross,
" Gibson, " Striker,
Lauder, ' " Wills.
Minutes of last meeting read and confirmed.
Mr. Bridgland's evidence of yesterday was read to the Committee.
Mr. R. H. Ramsay, of the late firm of Gardner and Ramsay, being called and sworn
was examined in reference to pork and flour supplied by him for Colonization Roads, in
1874, 1875 and 1876.
(See evidence marked C annexed to this day's minutes.)
Invoice (marked L) for 150 bbls. pork, from Gardner and Ramsay, in 1874, produced.
Also, invoice (marked M,) for 200 bbls. pork, from Gardner and Ramsay, in 1875,
1soth being for Colonization Roads.
On motion of Mr. Deacon the above papers were ordered to be recorded in the
jninutes.
(See papers L and M annexed to this day's minutes.)
On motion of Mr. Lauder, it was ordered that Mr. P. G. Close be summoned to give
^evidence to-morrow.
On motion of Mr. Ferris, seconded by Mr. Gibson, it was ordered that Mr. John A.
Macdonald be also summoned to give evidence to-morrow.
On motion of Mr. Lauder, it was ordered that Mr. William Davis, and Mr. Robert
J. Griffiths be summoned as witnesses.
On motion of Mr. Deacon, it was ordered that the following papers be produced and
laid before the Committee, viz. : — All orders, railway receipts or other vouchers showin^
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the dates of delivery of pork and flour by Gardner and Ramsay, during 1874, 1875 and
1876.
Adjourned till 11 o'clock A.M., to-morrow.
CHARLES CLARKE,
CJiairman.
Papers filed this day.
ft.)
Toronto, 25th April, 1874,
Crown Lands Department,
Bought of Gardner & Ramsay,
150 barrels of Mess pork, @ $18.50. $2,775.00.
(M.)
Toronto, llth March, 1875,
J. W. Bridgland, Esq.,
Crown Lands Department,
DEAR SIR, — Please find enclosed invoice of 200 barrels mess pork in store, and sub-
ject to your order at any time.
Yours respectfully,
GARDNER & RAMSAY.
Department of Crown Lauds,
Bought of Gardner & Ramsay,
March 9th, 1875, 200 barrels Canadian Mess pork, @ $20.75. $4,150.00.
TOKONTO, January 31, 1877.
Mr. R. H. Ramsay was called and examined. Being sworn, he deposed :
To Mr. Lauder. — I was a member of the firm of Gardner and Ramsay in 1874-75.
We commenced to supply the Ontario Government in 1874. I think an officer of the
Department called and asked our prices for a certain quantity of pork, and in '74 I ten-
dered for 150 bbls. of mess pork. It was about the last of April or first of May. The
price asked was $18.50 per bbl. The quality was to be first-class mess pork. My offer
was accepted. The pork was shipped from time to time as the orders were sent from the
Department. We received orders usually from Mr. Bridgland. After buying the pork
the Government send orders for it. I furnished duplicate invoices. There was no in-
spection ; there is no legal inspector in the city. I shipped it on my own responsibility,
according to order. The only order I had in 1874 was 150 bbls. In 1875 I supplied,
under the same arrangement, I believe, as in 1874- It was a written tender I sent in
1874 ; I don't know whether I sent a written tender in 1875. In '75 I furnished 200
bbls. at $20.75, about the first week in March. I also furnished 4 bbls. extra. I charged
$21.50 for them, because that was the value. I must have had an agreement to get
$20.75 in '75. I shipped the pork in '75 the same as in '74. There was no inspection.
In '76 I tendered in answer to a poster. I am not aware that I got a poster in '75. I
tendered for 200 bbls. in 76, at $23 per bbl. The Government did not inspect the pork,
and nobody for them. I filled the order on my own responsibility. I have been a pretty
staunch supporter of the Government for a number of years. I supplied 200 bbls. of flour
in '76, tendered for on receipt of poster. It was inspected by the flour inspector. I
charged $5.50, and received notification that my tender was accepted. I think the poster
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was sent me by mail. 1 think it was sent to all the houses in the city. I saw it on the
fences afterwards. I charged for the 4 bbls. pork $21.50 per bbl. The prices had gone
up. I suppose an order was sent from the Department for the 4 extra bbls. I charged
market value for the extra bbls. because the tender had expired. In '74 the amount of
supplies furnished by me was $2,775 ; in 1875 it was $4,236.40. In 1875 there was noth-
ing supplied but pork. In 1876 the amount of my account was about $5,700.
To the Chairman. — I was aware that I tendered against other parties in 1874. In
1875 I knew that there was competition.
To Mr. Gibson. — Mess pork is the best pork, there is a difference between it and
prime mess pork of $1.50 to $2 a barrel.
To Mr. Deacon. — The pork in 1874, 1875 and 1876 never was inspected by a duly
licensed inspector. It was branded by ourselves. I determined myself the quality of
the pork. The pork was inspected by ourselves.
To Mr. Lauder. — In 1875 the party who asked for my tender told me he was getting
prices from others. I am not aware of any public advertisement.
To Mr. Gibson. — In 1874 and 1875 I furnished pork to other parties. I was largely
engaged in the trade. We would sell in a season about 2,000 or 3,000 barrels of pork.
To Mr. Lauder.— My bill in 1874 was dated 25th April ; in 1875 it was March 9th.
I think the supplies for flour and pork in 1876 was 1st March.
To Mr. Deacon. — I could not tell the "largest number of barrels sold to any one but
the Government in 1874. We generally send a carload at a time — from 60 to 66 barrels.
We have sold 2 carloads at a time. In May our average price per barrel was $18.75. In
1875 I can't recollect that we sold 100 or 150 barrels to any other person than the Gov-
ernment.
To Mr. Ferris. — In 1874 in May the average price for mess pork was $18.75 ; in June,
$19.50; in July, $21.00; in August, $24 to $26; in September, about the same. In
1875, in March, $20.75. On April 25th, 1874, I offered at $18.75 to furnish pork, de-
livered at any station in this city. If I had held it I would have got the larger price.
I have not the memo, of the dates of delivery. The pork was not all taken in April.
To Mr. Ross. — The pork was paid for after the contract was made.
To Mr. Gibson. — I never heard complaints of the pork.
To Mr. Ferris. — In 1875 I tendered for 200 barrels at $20.75. It was to be kept by
me on same terms as in 1874, subject to my risk from damage by rust, fire, <fcc. In April,
1875, my average price was $21.50 ; in May, $22 ; in June, $21 ; July, $21.50 ; in August,
$22 ; in September, $23. The pork is usually re-pickled in June and July, and has to be
constantly watched in case of spoiling. The pork was at my risk while I held it. [Mr.
Ferris was asking witness as to the risk of holding pork.]
To Mr. Deacon. — Objection to the question as to holding over pork, contending that
the pork in question was not held over till August.
To Mr. Ferris — It would be worth from $1. to $1.50 per bbl., holding pork over for
a few months. The tender in 1874 and 1875, had a reference to future risks. The sig-
nature on Mr. Bridgland's letter of 9th March, 1875, is mine. (App. .) In 1876, we
supplied 200 bbls. pork, and 200 bbls. flour. The arrangement was similar to the previous
years.
To Mr. Lauder. — I have pork in store all the time. The Government pork was kept
by itself in 1875, after the tender was accepted. The reason I did so was, that I did not
want to run short of Canadian pork when it would be ordered. In 1874, the Government
was supplied from the general stock. There is no special risk on the Government pork,
any more than other pork. Wm. Davies & Co. are about the largest exporters to Europe
in pork in the city. Witness being asked if he could account for their price being $21.50,
while his was $23, he replied in the negative, unless the difference was in Canadian
pork. I was to supbly Canadian pork. I presume Davies deals in both Canadian and
Western (or Chicago) pork. I did not hear about their tender, or any one else's. My
sureties were J. B. Smith and Robt. Jaffray. Have no doubt Davies could get securities.
To Mr. Ross. — The bulk of the Pork comes in in February and March. The price
after that is regulated by the quantity offering. As a general rule, the price rises. The
risk during the summer, and the demand from Europe, adds to the value.
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To Mr. Ferris. — It is always more difficult to get Canadian mess pork than Western
mess pork.
To Mr. Gibson. — I hold there is a good deal of difference between Canadian and
Chicago pork. The latter won't go so far as the former, as it is fed on corn while Cana-
dian pork is fed on peas.
To Mr. Ferris. — I think lumbermen generally prefer Canadian pork.
To Mr. Lauder. — The average prices quoted were those of supplies to lumbermen, &c.,
from 10 to 30 bbls. The price on a small quantity would be higher than on 200 bbls.
transactions.
To the Chairman. — I would take less if the whole of the pork were delivered at once.
To Mr. Deacon. — I was paid after the purchase and before the pork was delivered.
After I had been notified that my tender was accepted, I made out my bill and sent it to
the Department, and received the cheque a few days after.
To Mr. Ferris. — This would be after I put in my securities for the faithful fulfilment
of the contract.
To the Chairman. — The delivery of pork extended over several months.
To Mr. Deacon. — The greater part of the pork that was set aside for the Govern-
ment, in 1875, was re-pickled and salted before being sent out.
To Mr. Lauder. — The Government pork was not treated differently from other pork.
To Mr. Ferris. — In view of this fact, the price of contracts for future delivery, are
generally higher than for immediate delivery.
To Mr. Lauder. — I have no recollection of being surety for Mr. Jaffray.
R. H. RAMSAY.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
Thursday, 1st February, 1877.
Committee met.
Present :
The Chairman.
Messieurs Deacon, Messieurs Eoss,
" Ferris, " Striker,
" Gibson, " Williams,
" Lauder, " Wills.
Minutes of last meeting read and confirmed.
Mr. P. G. Close, Grocer, Front Street, Toronto, being called, was sworn and examined
in reference to prices of Groceries, in 1874.
(See Appendix D to this day's minutes).
OD motion of Mr. Lauder, it was ordered that Mr. John Sloan, of P. G. Close & Co.,
be summoned to give evidence to-morrow, in reference to prices of teas, sugars, syrups
&c., during the years 1874 and 1875.
Mr. Close's evidence was read to, and signed by him.
Mr. C. Cashman being called, was sworn and further examined as to prices paid, and
method of obtaining supplies of groceries for Colonization Roads.
(See Appendix E to this day's minutes.)
Adjourned until 11 o'clock, A.M. to-morrow.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
TORONTO, Febuary 1st, 1877.
P. G. Close, being sworn, deposed :
To Mr. Lauder. — I am a wholesale grocer in this city. We do a large trade, and are
in about as good a position as any house in town to supply contracts. Mr. Cashman
called two or three years ago at our house, and told me he was getting quotations from
several of the leading houses for groceries to supply some department of the Government.
I told him I would call my partner, Mr. Sloan, and supply quotations. Mr. Sloan asked
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him the quantity he wanted, andwwas going to get samples, but Mr. Cashman told him
they were not necessary. Ke had asked for teas, sugars, syrups, &c., and Mr. Sloan told
him it would be necessary to have samples. I asked him if he could give the order, and
he said not. I asked him if he could tell who would get the contract, He said not to
trouble about samples, for he was afraid it was a foregone conclusion who would get it. I
asked him who would get the contract. He said he was not at liberty to tell, but he
feared I was on the wrong side to get it. We gave him the quotations, but took no fur-
ther trouble about it, because Mr. Cashman gave us the impression that we could not get
it. I have heard nothing of it since. I saw no advertisement for tenders. I was on the
look out for such. It would not be of any use to get quotations without samples, for tea
ranges from 35cts. to 90cts. per pound. There is fully 20cts. difference per gallon in
syrups. It does not amount to anything when a tender is given without samples for teas
or syrups. Syrups are known by different names — amber, golden, &c., which are all
standard brands. The price is known from the name ; but there are different makers,
whose syrups differ in quality though called by the same name. If we tendered for tea
at 20cts. to GOcts. I would expect that the Department would have to get samples when
ordering five or ten chests — the same applies to syrups and sugar. Sugars are in grades
from the very dark to the yellow ; also white.
To the Chairman. — Mr. Cashman did not ask for any particular quality of tea. I am
not certain whether he named the price wanted. It was between Mr. Sloan and Mr.
Cashman the transaction took place. Our quotations were given by Mr. Sloan, and the
range in price was for different qualities.
To Mr. Lauder. — There were no orders given.
To Mr. Ferris. — I was present all the time, but I may not have been there when Mr
Cashman asked about the price. The conversation took place either in the office or in
the sample-room ; I am not sure which. I knew Mr. Cashman before, and that he had
been a grocer for a number of years. He ought to understand the business. The prices
of tea from 35cts. to SOcts. would take in from a pretty low medium to a very fine article.
The quality of syrup can be more easily determined. The brands of golden syrup we had
were Redpath and De Castor, of Montreal, and we are in the habit of getting from New
York makers. Sometimes there were differences of Sets, or" 4cts. in the same brands.
Could not tell now which is the best. Sometimes we would get a better golden from one
maker and sometimes not so good ; so that by specifying brands we have not a guarantee
of the quality without specifying it. I asked Cashman to do what he could for us if our
goods were as good as others, He said seriously that we had no show for the contract.
I asked him to use what influence he had in our favour. He told me that he could not
finally decide. There is always a variety in soap, sugar and rice. Soap rules from 2Jcts.
to 7cts. It may have been higher in 1874.
To Mr. Gibson. — Cashman meant to say, as I understood, that we had no chance.;
that from knowledge he possessed he knew that we would not get it. I considered it was
a mere sham for him to call.
To the Chairman. — -He conveyed that impression. He did not use the word " sham."
To Mr. Gibson. — He hadn't the slightest idea of getting the contract.
To the Chairman. — In politics I am a Conservative ; I don't know Cashman's
politics.
To Mr. Gibson, — I never had a Government contract. When my friends were in
power I was not in a position to tender.
To Mr. Ferris. — I know Jaffray ; he is a respectable grocer. I believe he does a very
good general trade. I never heard anything against his commercial reputation.
To Mr. Lauder. — I could not tell from memory what best golden syrup would range
at. It has varied in two or three years. It would be necessary to have the date.
To Mr. Lauder. —Sometimes syrups have a value relatively above, and sometimes
below, sugars.
To the Chairman. — I am not in a position to swear positively that we gave samples
to Mr. Cashman. Mr. Sloan would know.
To Mr. Wills. — It was before the prices were given that Cashman told us we could
not get the contract.
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To Mr. Lauder. — My impression is that no samples were given ; but, I may have
gone out before Cash man left.
To Mr. Ferris. — The samples would be within reach if it was necessary to test them,
when Mr. C ashman was in.
P. G. CLOSE.
TORONTO, Feb. 1st, 1877.
Mr. Cashman, recalled :
To the Chairman. — I have some recollection of the interview between Mr. Close and
Mr. Sloan. I called on them and told them that Mr. Bridgland had instructed me to get
list prices of some of their goods, and asked for prices of certain brands ; told them as near
as I could, the quality required. I could not say whether it was in the office or sample-
room. I think Mr. Sloan or Mr. Close were present, probably both. I am not clear on
that. They asked me the quality of goods required ; I named the brands. In those days
we could name brand in golden syrup, for Redpath had certain brands. I am under the
impression that either Mr. Close or Mr. Sloan was present part of the time ; both were
not present all this time. I told them we would require the best quality of medium teas,
and he showed samples. There was not much said about sugars, for we did not expect
to want much. I did not bring back sample of teas. There was not a word said about
them getting the contract. I can't say that Mr. Close asked me to do what I could for
him. My sympathies were in his favour. I am not aware of making use of an expres-
sion that would leave him to think that he would not get the contract. I said after I got
his figures that I feared he would not get the contract, because I had the quotations from
others. I may have said in jest that he was on the wrong side of politics. I could not
say that I did or did not say so. If I did it would be by way of jest, knowing him to
be a conservative. My sympathies were with him as knowing him longer than any
others.
To Mr. Ferris. — I had done business for some years quite near Mr. Close, and
knew him.
To Mr. Striker. — The reason why I intimated that Mr. Close would not get the con-
tract was on account of the other figures I had got, and thought he was too high.
To the Chairman. — I reported to Mr. Bridgland in favour of Mr. Jaffray, because
his figures were the lowest. Though I did not have samples, I judged after intimating
the quality wanted, that Mr. Jaffray's prices were lowest. If I could conscientiously
have reported in favour of Mr. Close, I would have done so.
To Mr. Striker. — I did not think Mr. Close's politics would have prevented him
from getting the contract.
To Mr. Deacon. — I called personally on all the parties the same day. The lists of
prices were delivered to me before I left the premises. I think Close was the last man I
called on. I did intend, if it were possible, conscientiously to report in Mr. Close's fav-
our. Either Close or Frank Smith would be the last man called on. I looked over the
lists as soon as I got them. It was after getting Close's list and comparing it with the
others, that I told him I feared he would not get the contract. My sympathies were with
Close, because I was well acquainted with him. I called first on Griffiths — either one of
the Griffiths' or Jaffray. I did not intimate to Close what other quotations I had. I may
have intimated to Griffiths or some others, in a jocular way, that they would not get the
contract. I don't recollect intimating it to any one but Close. I had instructions from
Mr. Bridgland to buy from Jaffray if his prices were as low as the others. After setting
all the quotations before Mr. Bridgland, I understood he and the Commissioner believed
Jaffray's tender to be the lowest, and he instructed me to buy from Jaffray if his prices
were the lowest. Mr. Bridgland, as I understood, had reported to the Commissioner
what I had said to Bridgland. I had reported to Bridgland in favour of Jaffray on the
whole. Bridgland reported to me the Commissioner's decision in favour of Jaffray. The
quotations I would not precisely call tenders. I didn't know that Jaffray was the fav-
ourite competitor. The preference was given to him if his prices would be as low. I had
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no idea till after the decision of the Commissioner, who would get the contract. If
Close's tender had been exactly as low as Jaffray's, I don't know how the Commissioner
would decide. I knew Jaffray was a supporter of the Government, and that Close was
not.
To Mr. Lauder. — I knew nothing officially of the preference of the Department for
Mr. Jaffray. My private opinion was that Mr. Jaffray should have the preference, every-
thing being equal, because he was a supporter of the Government.
To Mr. Striker. — I never heard from the Government that the supplies were to be
given to political friends.
[The witness volunteered the information, that his politics now are — that if there are
good men all will be right.]
To the Chairman. — I had voted before entering the Department, on the Conservative
side principally. Politicial feeling did not influence me in any way in submitting Mr.
Jaffray's quotations — neither my own nor any other.
To Mr. Ferris. — When I was sent out to get prices, I understood that it was because
I had a previous knowledge of the trade. The memorandum of prices that I g6t from
the several houses were got after conversation with the grocers as to the qualities of goods.
There was a great deal more information involved in the conversation with the grocers
than what would be in the bare figures. In submitting the figures to Mr. Bridgland, I
gave him the other information I had obtained. I gave my opinion in favour of Jaffray's
tender. After this I got instructions to purchase from Jaffray, and it was understood
I was to continue buying from him if the prices were as low as I could get elsewhere. I
had some slight personal acquaintance with Jaffray when 1 went out for prices. My
sympathies were with P. G. Close & Co. It was my judgment in opposition to my sym-
pathy that made me tell him I feared he would not get the contract.
To Mr. Wills. — My duties are to keep the accounts with the overseers, see to the
shipping of goods, and compare the accounts at the end of the year, and the choosing
of supplies.
C. CASHMAN.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
Friday, 2nd February, 1877.
Committee met.
Present :
The Chairman. Hon. Mr. Wood.
Messieurs Ballantyne, Messieurs Merrick,
Gibson, Striker,
Hardy, Williams,
Lander, Wills.
Minutes of preceding meeting read and approved.
Mr. C. Cashman recalled, and his evidence of yesterday being first read, was signed
by him.
Mr. Cashman also produced the papers asked for by Mr. Deacon on the 31st of Janu-
ary last, showing dates of shipment, and vouchers, &c., for Pork and Flour furnished by
Gardner & Kamsay, during the years 1874, 1875, and 1876.
Mr. John Sloan, of P. G. Close & Co., next called, sworn and examined in reference
to quotations of prices of groceries as given to Mr. Cashman in 1874.
Mr. Sloan's evidence read to and signed by him.
(See appendix F, to this day's minutes.)
On motion of Mr. Gibson, seconded by Mr. Williams, it was ordered that Mr. Lang-
muir be notified to appear before the Committee on Tuesday next.
Mr. Lauder asked that Mr. Wm. Davies and Mr. R J. Griffith, be summoned as
witnesses.
Mi. Lauder moved, seconded by Mr. Wills, — That all the evidence taken before the
Committee up to the present date be reported to the House.
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And the yeas and nays being called for were taken down as follows : —
YEAS. NAYS.
Messieurs Lauder. Messieurs Ballantyne.
Wills. (2) Gibson.
Striker.
Williams. (4)
So it passed in the negative.
On motion of Mr. Gibson it was resolved that the Committee meet at 10 o'clock
A.M., on Tuesday next.
Adjourned till 10 o'clock, A.M., on Tuesday next.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
TORONTO, Feb. 2, 1877.
John Sloan being sworn, deposed :
To Mr. Lauder : — I am a member of the firm of P. G. Close & Co. I was a member
in 1874. I remember a messenger — Mr. Cashman — coming from one of the Depots. He
said he wanted quotations of groceries. I saw him myself. I think Mr. Close was present.
I gave Cashman some quotations. He said to me, that to be honest with us, he did not
believe we had any chance to get the order, for it was a foregone conclusion a member of
the party would get the contract. I don't think he asked for samples. I did not show
him any. I was with him all the time he was there. I don't think he asked for any par-
ticular class or brands of goods, but he asked generally. I was amused at his statement.
I did not ask him who would likely get the contract. He did not volunteer information.
I gave him some quotations. The quotations produced are not in my writing, I think it
is the book-keeper's. I think it would be impossible to tell which is the lowest tender
without having samples. The quotations we gave were ranges of prices without mention
of quality. I don't think either Jaffray's quotation for tea at 20c to 60c or ours at 35c to
80c, amounts to anything. Teas, sugars, syrups and groceries can be tendered for, but
it would be necessary to have samples. They are bought and sold by sample. In the
case of syrups, Redpath made .a few brands for a while, so that the price would be deter-
mined within a few cents a gallon. I understood Cashman to say that he' was favorable
to giving us the contract as he was acquainted with us. He said he did not think there
was any chance. He said something about politics. In case of a contract like Jaffray's,
the person giving the order for tea should fix the quality.
To Mr. Hardy. — It was about 1874. I think it was 1874, from reading the papers.
As well as I remember anything it was 1874. I think Mr. Close was present and the book-
keeper, Mr. Porter. I don't remember the words Cashman used. "It was in the spring
of 1874. I can't say whether it was in the month of May. I remember the conversation
pretty well ; I could not give the exact words. I could not say whether Mr. Close in his
evidence used the words "foregone conclusion." I have a distinct recollection of the
words used. Mr. Cashman came in and said he wanted to get quotations for the Depart-
ment. The words he used were : " To be honest with you, I don't think you have any
chance to get the contract." I don't swear positively that he used the words " foregone
conclusion." He used words having that meaning. I don't know how Mr. Close and I
used the same words. I can't tell any other man that was in the store that day, and I
can't remember any other man who was in that month, whose conversation' I remember.
This man came in on particular business. We never tendered for the Government before,
and were never asked for any. I have been in business for five years. I was clerk for
Mr. Close in 1868. I never saw any advertisement of tender in Sandfield's time. I can't
remember at the moment conversation with any other man but Cashman who came that
spring ; if I had time I might. Cashman may have looked at samples ; I don't think he
did. I had known Cashman intimately three or four years before that. I don't know his
politics. I am something like Conservative. I supported the Dominion Government at
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last election, but am sorry for it. It is difficult to tell from the tenders produced which
are lowest. I could not say without seeing samples whether the range of 35c. to 80c. is
as low as 28c. to 60c. Tea at 60c. would be a fine tea. I suppose it would not be too
good for ordinary use. 60c. is the price of a fine tea and 30c. to 35c. is a common tea.
In our quotation 35c. to 80c. we did not mean anything but a range of prices. If I meant
any business at all, I would not have given the quotation in that way. I did not expect
to get the contract, because Mr. Cashman said so. I could not say whether he
said this before or after he got our prices ; I believe it was before.
To Mr. Gibson. — In 1874 tea was higher in price than now.
To the Chairman. — Cashman seemed to be in good humour. I did not think he was
joking when he said we had no chance of getting the contract. If he said he was joking
I think he would be saying what was untrue.
To Mr. Merrick. — I judged from what Cashman told that it would be no use for us to
tender. He took no samples, and I don' think he examined any. I think it is impossible
for a man to judge teas by price without samples. I am a Conservative, but supported
the Dominion Government at last election. I don't know whether I voted. My sym-
pathies and support were with the Dominion Government in last election. I think it was
May, 1874, when I was asked for these prices. Redpath was manufacturing brands of
syrups at that time. There might be a difference in the quality of Redpath's syrups of
the same brand.
To Mr. Gibson.— I entered into partnership with Mr. Close in 1871. Five years ex-
pired at the end of last year. Previous to going into partnership I was salesman for Close.
He was doing a business of about $3,000 a month in 1868 ; as far as I can recollect, he
was in the retail then and till 1870. I could not say whether he could have supplied a
Government contract at that time.
To Mr. Lauder. — We would not be in a position to compete with wholesale houses at
that time.
To Mr. Hardy. — Mr. Jaffray is a strictly honourable man. I have known him for
several years. I can't say the Government would have been better served if we had
supplied them, than if Jaffray had supplied them. At the elections since the general
election I don't know who I supported. To the best of my belief I have always voted
Conservative.
To Mr. Lauder. — The reason why I said the Government would be as well served by
Mr. Jaffray as by our house, because I have known him to be a strictly honourable man.
I could not impeach Mr. Jaffray's honesty because I could not. There is no cheque upon
Mr. Jaffray by the Department that I can see.
To Mr. Wills. —If I were asked for a medium quality of teas, the price would come
to a price between 35c. to 80c. ; 35c. to 80c. is from a rather low medium to tte finest
quality, and 35c. to 70c. black tea, is from low medium to finest. We have teas
as low as 20c. Golden sjrrup might mean from a very dark syrup to one about as clear
as water. • In April and May, 1874 — golden syrups — we sold syrups from 48c. to 75c.
What we sold @ 48c. is described as extra golden. That was the lowest price for which
we sold syrup in April and May so far as I could see. All through the year prices ranged
about the same. Some sales of golden were made as low as 44c. and 45c. It is described
as golden syrup.
To Mr. Hardy. — West India molasses is worth about 30c.
To Mr. Striker. — I would not say whether we kept Redpath's golden syrup in 1874.
I presume the prices would be about the same as others..
To Mr. Hardy. — In syrups there is no real standard.
To Mr. Ballantyne. — The name does not indicate the quality.
To Mr. Hardy. — Golden syrup might mean anything from 35c. to 60c.
To Mr. Lauder. — In January, 1875, we sold syrups from 48c. to 77c. ; In November,
1875, we sold syrups from 45c. to 60c. ; In May, 1875, golden syrups would be about the
same as in January.
To Mr. Wills. — There is no lower grade of syrup than golden.
To Mr. — Lauder. — If I was buying syrups for men working on the roads in Muskoka,
I should think golden syrup would be good enough.
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To the Chairman. — Golden syrup would range from 35c. to 60c.
To Mr. Lauder. — We generally send golden syrups to the merchants in the back
country, and sometimes amber. The price in 1874, and 1875, would be about 48c. I
should judge. The syrup is described as extra golden in our sales book, and I should
judge it would be a good quality.
To Mr. Hardy. — We did not complain for not getting this contract.
To Mr. Gibson. — I don't recollect asking Mr. Cashman to use his influence to give us
the contract.
JNO. SLOAN.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
Tuesday, 6th February, 1877.
Committee met at 10 A.M.
Present :
The Chairman,
Messieurs Ballantyne, Messieurs Striker,
Gibson, Williams.
Adjourned at 10.27 A.M., for want of a Quorum.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
Wednesday, 7th Feb. 1877.
Committee met.
Present :
The Chairman,
Hon. Mr. Crooks,
Messieurs Ballantyne, Messieurs Merrick,
Deacon, Ross,
Ferris, Striker,
Gibson, Williams,
Lauder, Wills.
Minutes of the 2nd and 6th instant read and approved.
Moved by Mr. Lauder, seconded by Mr. Deacon, and Eesolved, — That the Committee
meet hereafter at 10 o'clock a.m., on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Fridays.
Mr. William Davies, provision merchant, Toronto, called, sworn and examined in
relation to tenders for pork, in 1876.
Evidence read to witness and signed by him.
(See Appendix G to this day's minutes.}
Mr. Davies' tender for pork, dated 1st March, 1876, produced and ordered to be re-
corded in minutes.
(See Appendix N to this day's minutes.}
Mr. R J. Griffith, called, sworn and examined briefly, relative to prices of groceries
and provisions supplied for Colonization Roads.
Further examination postponed till to-morrow.
The following memorandum of particulars to which the Committee desired replies
from Mr. R. J. Griffith, was submitted by Mr. Ferris to the Committee.
" The Committee desires answers on the following points : — On what terms were
goods furnished by your firm to the Government, commencing with the year 1868,
whether by tender, or whether tenders were asked for in the years 1868, 1869, 1870,
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1871, 1872, 1873, and 1874, or whether there was any difference in the mode of furnishing
supplies for Colonization roads, from that to other Departments of the Government ;
the amount supplied for the several years above named, distinguishing between the goods
supplied by tender and the goods furnished at current rates," and a discussion arising on
the adoption thereof, the yeas and nays were called for and taken down as follows : —
Yeas. Nays.
Messieurs Ballantyne, Messieurs Deacon,
Ferris, Lauder.
Gibson, Merrick,
Eoss, Wills.— 4.
Striker,
Williams.— 6.
So it passed in the affirmative.
On motion of Mr. Lauder, it was resolved that the memorandum of Mr. Ferris be
furnished to the witness, and that he be allowed to answer the same in writing.
On motion of Mr. Ferris the following was added to Mr. Lauder's motion :
That notwithstanding any statement so put in, the witness shall be notified to ap-
pear to give viva voce evidence to-morrow.
On motion of Mr. Deacon it was ordered, that the account of Messrs. Blake, Kerr
and Boyd, under the head of " Legislation" and found on pages 40 and 43 of the Public Ac-
counts of 1875, and amounting respectively to $104.37 and $346.43, be entered in detail
onthe minutes.*
On the motion of Mr. Lauder, Mr. John Morrison, Grocer, Toronto, was ordered
to be summoned to give evidence to-morrow.
On motion of Mr. Wills, it was ordered that the tenders for pork, for the years 1875
and 1876 be produced.
On motion of Mr. Gibson it was ordered that any tender or list of prices furnished
the Department by Messrs. W. & R Griffith in the years 1868, 1869, 1870, 1871, 1872,
1873, and 1874 be produced to-morrow.
Ordered, that Mr. Langmuir be notified to appear before the Committee to-morrow.
Adjourned till 10 o'clock, A.M., to-morrow.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
• (Paper marked IV. — Tender for Pork.)
Toronto, March 1st, 1876.
Hon. T. B. PARDEE,
SIR, — We hereby offer 150 barrels mess pork at $21. 50 (twenty one T5^y dollars) per
barrel. It will not suit our purpose to hold it and deliver at any time and place you may
require, but will deliver into warehouse to be stored for you ; but we should require prompt
cash on presentation of warehouse receipt.
This pork can be inspected in Toronto by any person you may appoint, the charge
for that will have to be paid by purchaser. We must have twenty-one ^£5- dollars, net.
For the performance of the above we offer as security Messrs. James Scott, Dry
Goods Merchant, Thomas Lailey, Wholesale Clothier, both of this city.
Waiting your reply,
We are Yours respectfully,
(Signed) WILLIAM DAVIES & Co.
TORONTO, Wednesday, February 7th, 1877.
Wm. Davies, sworn, deposed :
To Mr. Lauder. — 1 carry on pork business in Toronto. I tendered for Government
supplies last year at $21.50. The pork asked for in the bill was Canadian mess-pork. I
* See Papers O and P.
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offered to supply 150 barrels. I had not the balance of the 200 barrels by me. The
memo, in document E. opposite my name is not correct. I meant Canadian pork. I
would have supplied the pork at $21.50 on certain conditions. I was prepared to deliver
at any warehouse mentioned by the Government, and wanted the money as soon as I de-
livered the warehouse receipt. If I had been asked to store it and deliver it as the Gov-
ernment wished it, I think it would have cost about 50c. a barrel more between the terms
of the contract and my tender. I would guarantee it to be in good quality for two
months for $22 a barrel.
To Mr. Ferris. — The conditions of the tender (F) were, that it was " to be de-
livered in good sound order and condition, in such quantities and at such times through-
out the year as may be ordered, free of storage, cartage, insurance, and all other expenses,
on board of any of the railway cars in this city, as directed. Tenders to be accompanied
by the names of two solvent sureties in the sum of $1,500 each, for the due performance
of contract." I put in my tender on March 1st, 1876, in answer to the poster. In the
tender I did not guarantee to keep it in good condition for the year. It would be
worth 50c. per barrel more. According to the usage of the trade, I think 50c. per barrel
extra would cover all the conditions of the advertisement. I prefer closing up all my
transactions at once. The terms of my tender were in accordance with our usual rules
of business, and were different from the terms asked for by the Government. 50c. per
barrel would not cover the expense of repacking the pork, but I would riot repack it.
The expression " net cash," mentioned in my tender, means that the purchaser would
have to pay inspection and expenses outside of delivery at any warehouse they would
name. It was to be at their risk. I know Davison & Scott. They are wholesale pro-
vision merchants and commission merchants as well. We have no legally-appointed pork
inspector in the city. The Statute lays down the qualities to be known by the several
names, so that a good packer would know. The pork might be light or heavy. The
bulk of Canadian mess is heavy. My tender did not specify Canadian mess. There is
a preference among consumers for Canadian over Western mess. I think the Canadian
is sold a little below the Western, after the duty on the latter is paid. Canadian would
get the preference in my warehouse, though I have not done much in mess pork for a
few years, being principally engaged in the export trade. If I had both Canadian and
Western mess pork in my warehouse I would consider the former the best. Canadian
mess is not mentioned in my tender, though Canadian mess was an ingredient in the
notice. I supposed the pork would be paid for when delivered. The advertisement
called for 200 barrels. I only offered 150 barrels, and proposed to deliver all in one lot.
To Mr. Merrick. — Although not mentioned in my tender, Canadian Mess Pork is
what was intended to be supplied. I did not comply with the requirements about deli-
very at various times. 50c. per bbl. would cover insurance, storage and cartage, &c. The
cost of inspection is not included in the 50c. I don't know the cost of inspection ; I am
my own inspector. Anything I put my name on would pass without inspection. The
pork offered was our own putting up. It would stand inspection by any inspector. I
don't think it would be necessary to repack the pork. I never had any inspected in Tor-
onto. The pork was put up for summer use. I think if properly packed, it would keep
perfectly well during the summer.
To Mr. Ross. — I don't know what the usual price of storage is per bbl. Delivery,
shipping, and cartage for lots of five bbls. would be from 50c. to 60c. Insurance in a
warehouse would be J per cent, per annum, or about 15c. per bbl. I don't know what is
charged in Montreal for inspection. I would not undertake, on any terms, to have pork
delivered in small lots in a peddling way. It would be wortli 50c. a bbl. for guarantee-
ing the good quality of pork to be delivered during any time of the year. If I had to
deliver any time during the year, the risk of keeping and guaranteeing delivery in
good order, I think 50c. would be little enough. A complaint might come after the pork
was sent to the country, and 1 would have to re-send five or six barrels.
To Mr. Ferris. — As a matter of fact, I would not care to do such a kind of business
at all at any price.
To Mr. Crooks.— My price was based on the understanding that I was to deliver the
150 barrels at once.
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To Mr. Williams. — I would guarantee it if it remained in the store for six months,
but not after it left the city where it could not be seen.
To Mr. Lauder. — I am still of the opinion that 50c. extra per barrel on my tender
would be enough to comply with the conditions asked by the Government.
To Mr. Wills. — The 50c. per barrel extra on my offer, would be about what it would
be worth to fill the tender.
To the Chairman. — To keep it good throughout the year would be worth fifty cents
more.
To Mr. Lauder. — If the pork were to be examined in Toronto, I think it would cost
about 50c. per barrel for the risk and storage.
To the Chairman. — I would not undertake at all to comply with the tender, because
I don't do that kind of business.
To Mr. Ross. — There is a Government Inspector in Montreal. Chap. 49 of 30 Vic.
enacts that 20c. per barrel shall be charged for inspection. I think a fair estimate for
storing 150 barrels, to be delivered in small lots and shipped by the warehouseman,
would be 25c. to 30c. a barrel. The cartage and delivery about 12c. a barrel. The
insurance about 15c. a barrel. The risk of keeping the pork about 50c. per barrel, mak-
ing a total of $1.07 ft) cover all risks and charges.
WILLIAM DAVIES.
TORONTO, 23rd September, 1875.
SIR, — I have the honour to request you to give the necessary directions for the
payment of the enclosed accounts of Messrs. Blake, Kerr and Boyd, for professional ser-
vices rendered by them to the late Commissioner of Crown Lands, Honorable R. W.
Scott, in the suit of Seymour vs. Attorney-General. As the suit was brought against Mr.
Scott for action taken by him as a member of the Government, the Attorney-General is
of opinion that this account is payable by the Province. The bill has been moderated by
the taxing office of the Court of Chancery.
I have the honour to be, Sir,
Your Obedient Servant,
(Signed) J. G. SCOTT.
The Honourable, the Treasurer.
In Chancery, Seymour v. Attorney-General.
Scott's Defence.
1873. $ cts. $ cts.
January 27, Instructions $2, Retainer for defence of R. W.Scott.. 2 00
$20. Letter to Hon. R. W. Scott, 50cts 20 50
Letter to McDonald, B. and W. 50c, postage lc.... 50 01
January 29, Letter to R. W. Scott, 50c, postage lc 50 01
February 5, Letter f. C. K. A. C. w ; Q. C. Dec. (6), letter to C...
K. andC. 5 Oc, postage lc 50 01
February 11, Letter f. McD. and I), attending service Bill for Scott
February 12, Letter to McD. B. and M. 50c, postage lc. (15) letter
f. McD 50 01
February 15, B. and M. copy Bill 44 folios $4.40, letter to R. W. S.
50c 4 90
post lc (20) perusing and considering Billserved and 01
February 21, advising on same $5. (25) fee on consultation with Mr. 5 00
C. Robinson as to ans. $10 10 00
February 27, Instruction for Brief $1, Brief Bill $4.40 5 40
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A. 1877
Letter to C. Robinson, 5 Oc, post 3c. 50 03
February 28, Fee on consultation with Mr. Robertson $10.....". 10 00
March 1st, Attending R. W. Scott, and conference with him and
with Mr. Blake as to form of answer $4 . 4 00
March 4th, Attending Mr. Robertson w. draft answer and confer-
ence as to frame of same, $5. Letter to McD. B.
andF. 50c , 5 00 50
March 6th, Letter for McD. B. and W. letter to Hon. R. W. Scott
50c, post Ic 50 01
March 18, Letter for C. R. and E. (19) Letter for A. J. C. Atten-
ding R.W. Scott as to defence, and long conference
with him thereon $10 10 00
March 22, Letter to McD. B. and W. 50c, post Ic. (24) Letter to
McD. B. and W. 50c 1 00 01
March 27, Fee Attending Mr. Badgerow and arranging for one
month's further time to answer, $1 1 00
March 29, Letter from McD. B. and N. Attending Mr. Cattanach
and arranging that he do not move to dismiss by^
reason of one obtaining a month's further time to
answer, $2. Letter to McD. B. and N. 50c, post-
tage Ic 2 50 01
April 9th, Letter to J. G Scott 50c, post Ic 50 01
April 15, Attending Attorney-General as to answer, $1 1 00
April 19, Copy answer of Attorney-General, 56 folios $5.60. (21)
letter to J. G. S. 50c 6 10
April 24, Draft answer of R. W. Scott, 20 folios $4 4 00
Fee settling $6. Letter to Hon. E. B. 50c 50 600
April 25, Attending Mr. Badgerow, and obtaining further time
to answer, $1.00 1 00
May 7, Letter from McD. B. & N., Letter to McD. B. & N., 50c.
post Ic 50 01
12, Letter to Hon. R. W. S., 50c., (14) Letter f. McD. B.
& N 50
14, Copy answers of R. W. S., 6 folios 60c., attending Mr.
Scott, 60c., and conference $1. attending McDonald 1 60
B. & N., $1. Letter to McD. B. & N., 50c. post 1 50
Ic. (15). Letter of R. W. S 01
15, W. answers attending C. L. Dept., for signature of Com-
missioner, 50c 50
16, Attending Mr. Badgerow, and conference who arranged
to allow filing of answers, costs to be costs in the
same, $1 1 00
Copying answers of Scott, 6 folios, 60c 60
(17) Attorney to file answers 50c. paid 60c., copy-
ing answers 60c. Notice of fig. C. & S., 80c 1 90 60
19, Attending services, order to produce, attending service
demand for co. answers, attending to serve same, 60c 60
" 22, Attorney to bes. and fa. order to produce, $1. paid 50c
fee$l 2 00 50
Endst. 40c. C. & S. of order and endst., $1, (27)
Dpt. affton. prod 1 40
3 folios and co., 90c. Attg. Comm., 50c. paid 20c. 1 40 20
Attg. Commissr. Cr. Lands and conference, $1 .... 1 00
27, Co. afft. of R. W. Scott, on production 30
28, Attg. to file afft. 50c. paid lOc. Notice of filing C. &
S. 80c 1 30 10
30, Copying Bill 37 folios, $3.70 3 70
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June 2, Attending services demand attending to services copying
afft. of E. W. Scott on prodn., 50c. (14) Attending
services order to amend 50
" 25, Attending service demand Bills. Attorney to serve same
50c., (27) Letter f. McD. B. & A 50
27, Letter to McD. B. & A. 50c., post Ic 50 01
July 15, Fee Attending Mr. Badgerow and conference, and in-
formed him that we would produce Mr. Scott this
week for examination, (he gave no answer) $1 1 00
August 25, Letter to McD. & B. 50c., post Ic 50 . 01
September 5, Letter to McD. B. & A., 50c., post Ic 50 01
e6, Attending Mr. Badgerow and conference $1 1 00
" 9, Letter from J. T. Garrow, p. 2. Letter to McD. B. &
A., 50c.,postlc 01
Dft. notice of motion, 4 folios and copy, $1.20 1 20
24, Dig. Bill of costs, 5 folios and copy, $1.50 1 50
Fee attending Mr. Badgerow and conference, who
says to send bill of costs that plaintiffs bill will «
probably be dismissed, $1 1 00
Letter to McD. B. & N., 50c., post Ic 50 01
25, Letter to Hon. R. W. Scott, 50c., post Ic. Attending
service, order dismissing bill 50 01
October 2, Attending taxatn., $1., paid $1.10, (8) attending for cost
50c., paid 50c 1 50 1 60
9, Letter to McD. B. & N, 5 Oc., post Ic., (10) Letter of
McD. B. & A 50 01
November 8, Letter to G. W. B., 50c., post Ic 50 01
27, Letter from McD. B.&W. $25.16 25 16
29, Letter to McD. & B., 50c., post Ic 50 01
106 80 32 73
106 80
$139 53
Taxed off $ 10 00
Taxed at $129 53
Sept. 22nd, 1875.
The Hon. R W. Scott,
In account with Blake, Kerr & Boyd.
1873. $ cts. $ cts.
November 29. Seymour, v. Attorney-General, By cash of McDougall.
" " " English v. McDougall costs. 25 16
1875.
June 14. " " " To costs per memo 13953
By Balance 114 37
139 53 139 53
To Balance due 114 37
Taxed off. 10 00
104 37
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Ee Eykert.
1874. $ cts. $ cts.
November 29, Fee for retainer and fee on long consultation and ad-
vice as to evidence, &c 40 00
24, Fee attending before Committee, and attending with
Mr. McKellar, and conference and advice as to evi-
dence, &c., and attending with him to see witnesses
engaged all day 30 00
Attending for summons for Graydon
Attending for summons for Simons
Attending for summons for Hyman
Attending for summons for McDonald. . . ,
Letters to Currie & H., with summons for Graydon, post
3c.; paid agents attending to serve, 50<r
Paid agent's letter advising, 50c., post, 3c 53
Letter to Ball & B., with summons for Simons, post, 3c.
paid agents attending to serve, 50c 53
f Paid agent's telegram, 50c, paid 25c
Paid agent's letter advising, 50c. post, 3c 63
Paid Simons' witness fees 5 00
Letter to Cronyn and M., with summons for service on
Hyman and McDonald, post, 3c 03.
Paid agents attending to same, $1.00. Paid conduct
money, $20 21 00
Paid agent's telegram, 50c., and paid 25c. ; paid cab-hire
$3.25 4 00
Paid agent's letter advising, 50c., post, 3c 53
Attending for summons for W. T. Keiley
Attending for summons for G. W. Keily ,
Attending for summons for Gunn
" 25, Telegram to Cronyn & M., paid 50
Paid agents attending Hy man's office three times 1 50
Fee attending Mr. McKellar, and conference and advice
as to evidence ... 5 00
Attending for summons for Tilison and others
" 26, Fee attending before Committee, evidence taken all day. 30 00
(Advice as to further evidence also, and attending and
arranging for further case) .
" 27, Fee attending before Committee, evidence taken all
day. (Advice as to further evidence including con-
ference with Mr. Kingsmill, Mr. Cattanach, Mr. Mc-
Master and others.) -. .. 30 00
December 1, Fee attending before Committees engaged all day
2, Fee attending before Committee on examination 30 00
3, Fee attending before Committee engaged all day on case
and evidence., 30 00
4, Fee attending before Committee engaged all day on ex-
amination of witnesses 30 00
7, Paid agents at London attending to serve Carling 50
Paid agents letter, 5 Oc. ; post, 3c 53
Fee attending before Committee, evidence taken, en-
gaged allday 30 00
11, Fee attending Committee with evidence discovered, and
argu men t as to admissibility of evidence of Carling. 10 00
" 14, Fee attending Committee, evidence taken 30 00
" 15, Fee attending before Committee, evidence closed 10 00
371 40
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The Hon. A. McKellar,
in account with Blake, Kerr & Boyd.
1875. $ cts. $ cts.
November 23, Re Rykert. By cash Retainer 40 00
December 18, " To costs, per memorandum ... 371 40
By Balance 331 40
$371 40 $371 40
To Balance due 331 40
The Hon. Archibald McKellar,
in account with Blake, Kerr & Boyd.
1874. $ cts. $ cts.
December 18, To Balance due 331 40
1875.
January 3, Re Kykert, paid agents at St. Catharines for the follow-
ing attendance, &c.: —
Copy summons for witness 1 00
Attending to serve (witness away) 50
Agents' letters and postage 53
Attending to serve Giles, 50c., and paid conduct
money, $6 650
Attending to serve Woodriff, 50c.,and paid con-
duct money, $6 6 50
By balance 346 43
$346 43 $346 43
To balance due 346 43
Pay and charge to Legislation,
(Signed) ADAM CROOKS.
The Committee met.
Present :
TREASURER'S OFFICE.
Thursday, 8th February, 1877.
The Chairman, Hon. Messieurs Crooks and Macdougall,
Messieurs Ballantyne, Messieurs Meredith,
Deacon, Merrick,
Ferris, Ross,
Gibson, Striker,
Lauder, Williams.
Minutes last meeting read and approved.
The Chairman read a memorandum from Mr. J. W. Bridgland in reply to Mr. Gib-
son's motion of yesterday, as follows :
MEMO (A). " Messieurs William and Robert Griffith never to my knowledge sent in
Tenders to the Crown Lands Department for supplies for Colonization Roads except in
the year 1874, which last are in the hands of the Committee now, neither were any price
lists furnished at any time to my knowledge."
(Signed) J. W. BRIDGLAND,
Superintendent Colonization Roads.
February 8th, 1877.
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Mr. Bridgland was sent for and examined briefly, after which he signed his evidence.
(See Appendix H. to this day's Minutes.)
Mr. E. J. Griffith recalled, and his evidence of yesterday read.
Mr. Ferris' Memorandum of enquiries of yesterday, also read.
Mr. R. J. Griffith's examination resumed.
Letter dated August 25th, 1871 (marked B.I.) from W. R. Griffith to Hon. M. C.
Cameron, Commissioner of Crown Lands, produced and ordered to form part of Mr.
Griffith's evidence.
Evidence read to witness, and signed by him.
(See Appendix 1. to this day's Minutes.)
Ordered, That Mr. John Morison, wholesale grocer, be summoned to appear again to-
morrow.
On motion of Mr. Lauder, it was resolved that the proceedings of this Committee up
to the present date, together with the evidence taken, be reported forthwith to the House
of Assembly.
Adjourned till ten o'clock A.M., to-morrow.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
The following Report was presented to the House this day.
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario :
The Select Standing Committee, to whom was referred the consideration of the
Public Accounts, beg leave to present the following as their
SECOND REPORT.
Your Committee have made a full examination of the Public Accounts for 1875, in
so far as they relate to Legislation and Colonization Roads, and herewith submit the evi-
dence taken before them and a copy of the record and minutes of their proceedings to the
present date, and of documents placed before them during their investigations.
All which they respectfully submit.
(Signed) C. CLARKE,
Chairman.
Committee Room, 8th February, 1877.
Toronto, Thursday, February 8th, 1877.
J. W. Bridgland, recalled, deposed :
To the Chairman. — I received a requisition from the Committee, yesterday, for any
tenders or lists of prices in connection with supplies furnished to the Department by W.
& R. Griffith for Colonization Roads, in the years from 1868 to 1874, inclusive. The
memo, produced is my reply, as follows : —
MEMO.
Messrs. William & Robert Griffith never, to my knowledge, sent in tenders to the
Crown Lands Department for supplies for Colonization Roads, except in the year 1874,
which last are in the hands of the Committee now ; neither were any price-lists furnished
at any time to my knowledge.
J. W. BRIDGLAND,
8th February, 1877. Supt. of Col. Roads.
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Before 1874, supplies were obtained by my personal examination and enquiry of each
article, commencing in 1868. In 1867 I called atone or two other establishments besides
Griffith's. In some instances there was a comparison of prices. There was no competi-
tion up to 1868, except with some supplies for the Colonization Roads in 18C7. In all
the years from 1868 to 1874 there was no competition. Up to 1867 there was no com-
petition between Griffith's goods and others. When buying I examined articles or sam-
ples. We sent orders as we required them. When orders were sent we did not re-examine
goods, except when something new was ordered. We relied on the person supplying to
send the quality wanted. There were a few complaints from the roads about goods. The
merchants would in such cases send a better article afterwards.
To Mr. Gibson. — Up to 1874 from 1868 the same system was pursued. 1867 was
the first year I made any important purchases ; previous to that the overseers supplied
themselves.
To Mr. Meredith. — I was instructed by the Commissioner to change the mode in
1874. It was not from any representations I made. The overseers sent in their bills
and vouchers for payment of supplies when they selected the supplies themselves. That
was previous to 1867.
To Mr. Hardy. — The change I refer to in 1874, is asking for tenders.
To the Chairman. — The overseers were instructed by the Department what kind of
supplies to purchase. This system was in operation from 1864 to 1867. They would
supply themselves from any convenient place where they could purchase. Previous to
1867 if articles were known to be purchased which were not allowed by the Department
they would be condemned and the men themselves would have to pay. If the price of
an article was found to be exorbitant, the party supplying was written to. The price was
judged by what the article could be got for here.
To Mr. Lauder. — I have tried to make improvements in the operations of the De-
partment since 1867.
To the Chairman. — We are still making improvements.
To Mr. Hardy. — I don't think there is any advantage in obtaining tenders for gro-
ceries if the officer who buys be a person of capacity and integrity.
To Mr. Ross. — My opinion as to the present mode is based on past experience.
To Mr. Hardy. — I regard Mr. Cashman as an expert in the purchase of groceries,
and a man of capacity and integrity.
J. W. BRIDGLAND.
February, 7th, 1877.
R. J. Griffith, called, sworn, deposed :
To the Chairman. — I was a member of the firm of W. & R. Griffith. They have sup-
plied government contracts. In 1869 we supplied to the following amounts ; In 1868,
$810.15; 1869,11592.20; 1870, nothing ; 1871, $924.48 ; 1872, $4,226.60 ; 1873, $7,775.-
75 ; 1874, $784.96.
I think we tendered in 1869, the government officers called every year and solicited
prices. I think we sent in a tender, but am not positive. I think at the beginning of
the year we gave prices. I am not positive we furnished samples. They would be examined
in the warehouse. In 1872, 1873 and 1874, we furnished samples, I believe. I think
in 1869, tenders were not asked for by advertisement. We were always aware that we
were competing with other houses. I don't think there was a change of mode in furnish-
ing supplies. I don't think there is much gained in the long run by advertising. We
supplied the government at close prices, as we would do with any respectable dealer.
Prices of tea and syrup fluctuate a good deal. The brands of syrups furnished to coloni-
zation roads change. The brands supplied were a good medium syrup. The syrup sup-
plied in 1873 at 55c. would be good medium quality. Young Hyson, 60c. ; Soap, 7c. a
pound, we made a rule of giving everything good.
Rice we furnished at 4| cts. per pound. My politics are pretty well known as a con-
servative. There was no change in our dealings with the government, when the change
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of government took place, until I think the spring of 1874. In 1873 we had the whole
supply. I would be afraid to speak now of the price of syrup in 1875 ; I don't recollect
that it was as low as 48 cts*. If we had quoted the Toronto price of an article unless we
had a heavy stock and it was a part of a general order, the price the article cost us would
not be considered an ordinary fair quotation ; we never did give a cost quotation.
To Mr. Ferris. — We furnished a price list and samples to the Government, I think.
To Mr. Deacon. — I could not give more explicit information to-morrow than I can
now, as to the manner in which supplies were furnished by us.
TORONTO, February 8th, 1877.
R. J. Griffith, recalled, deposed :
To the Chairman. — The only tender we gave was a price-list ; not a tender called for
by advertisement. This was previous to 1874. We understood that the officers of the
Government were soliciting price-lists from other houses. They conveyed the impression
to us that they were doing so, and we acted accordingly.
To Mr. Ferris. — I received the memo, from the Commissioner. I did not bring the
the figures from my books as to the amount of goods sold to the Government in 1868.
The goods were all supplied according to quotations furnished to the Government officers
or samples shown to them. There was no formal tender called by advertisement. As far
as I can recollect, the quotations were submitted generally at the beginning of the year,
at which time we would get the order, supposed to supply the greatest part of the year.
We%subsequently got orders and supplied them without sending quotations. In each
year this course was pursued. That would be the index of the prices at that particular
time. If prices would advance or decline during the year, the Government would be
treated as any other good cash customer, and the goods would be taken without any far-
ther test beyond seeing that they agreed with the current market rate. I presume there
was more care in this respect shown by the Government than by any other customer. I
know Cashman slightly. I don't remember submitting goods to him. I think Mr.
Bridgland was one, and going a good many years further back, some of the foremen or
overseers would come in and examine, and note prices and select goods, and as between
these parties and our house the price would be fixed. There was no change until the
change in the spring of 1874, I have referred to, when the head of the Crown Lands De-
partment was changed. It was then, I think, Cashman first came for a tender. I have a
distinct recollection of Mr. Bridgland coming to our house. The change I refer to was
that Cashman came to the office to get tenders, which we gave him. I considered those
tenders more formal than the quotations we had previously given. Cashman told us that
tenders were required. I think there was a form made out, and we tendered. Cashman
first took the tenders in the spring of 1874. In 1874 our supplies were $784.96 ; in 1873,
$7,775.75. It was in the spring of 1874 the change took place in the mode of tendering,
when I understood the Head of the Crown Land Department was changed. I did riot
know Cashman before he went into the Crown Lands Department. It was only through
this Department that I knew anything of him at all. I don't remember knowing him
when he was in the trade. The old quotations were only written out. 1 think the ten-
ders Cashman wanted were printed. I don't see that there was much difference in the
mode of doing this. The greatest difference was that we didn't get the orders. I don't
know that a better method of getting supplies could be suggested. I think Government
always got as well supplied as any other customer. I know Jaffray very well. He is a
man of respectable standing in the trade, Beyond the inspection by Bridgland, or the
overseers, of the goods we furnished, I don't know that there would be any inspection at
the Department. The goods went to the Government the same as to any other customer.
Their complaints were very seldom ; there was nothing serious, and we always tried to
make things right if there were complaints. I would not be able to say very well with-
out seeing the goods, whether Jaffray's prices for syrups, in 1874, and for teas, 60c., were
right. The transactions would be between Mr. JafFray and the Government agent, if it
was left to that officer. We understood purchases were left to them. We knew nothing
of any one other than them having control.
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To Mr. Meredith. — In each year we gave quotations. Samples were examined by the
Government officer, and the prices referred to the samples, so that he knew what goods
we could supply for certain prices. After 1867 I am doubtful that overseers bought any-
thing. As far as my recollection goes, they did not buy after 1867. The orders were
always put in writing, and I think the overseers brought memorandums of what they
wanted. We do all our business by sample. It would not be possible to give same tea
all the year round. An equal value and grade could be got. The same applies to sugars
and syrups. The samples are generally kept. It would not be unusual for a grocer to
agree tc supply goods of an equal grade, at a fixed price. I cannot account for the in-
crease of supplies of 1872 over 1871, or 1873 over 1872, except there was more work going
on and more men employed. I am not aware that other persons beside ourselves were
supplying. I cannot tell why we did not supply in 1870. We made no enquiries as to
whether anyone else was supplying. In 1874 Mr. Cashman called for prices. There was
nothing of a special nature that I could name in the interview with Cashrnan, to give me
the impression that we could not get the order. I formed the impression, but could give
no definite reason why. There had been no complaint of our supplies, and our dealings
with the Dept. were quite satisfactory so far as we knew. Our business is larger than
Mr. Jaffray's, I should think we would be in a better position to supply than he would.
He retails and also does a jobbing trade. [Synopsis of tenders produced, and shown to
witness.] These tenders bear out that, I think, ours was the fairest price there. A
merchant could easily form an idea as to the correctness and fairness of these tenders. He
could not very well compare one with another without examining the goods. A merchant
would form an opinion without looking at samples e. g., tea at 20c to 60c. and at 30c to
50c. Now tea at 20c. we would not send at all, every merchant knows it is the lowest
grade, in fact, it was rare at that time to find tea at 20c. at all. The freight charges
would be the same on a low grade as on a good grade of goods. We always thought the
Government should supply the men with a good grade. We would send tea at 50c to 60c.
I don't think there is any guide to some of these figures, unless samples were put before
them. There was no tea at 20c. a Ib. that we would think fit to send to anybody. My
mininum price for tea is 30c to 50c. At that time considering it was a cash customer, we
might put in a fair grade of tea. I should think we could give better quality of tea than
Jaffray, whose prices are 20c. to 60c. Jaffray's mininum price for syrup is 34c. mine is 47c.
I don't think it possible to supply such syrup as we sent for 34c. We could not send me-
dium quality for that or anything like it ; syrup is very heavy, and the freight heavy, and
we go on the principle of sending a good article. Prices cannot be determined by any
rule.
To Mr. McDougall. — There are only three or four grades of sugars, and a merchant
could easily understand what should be sent, and what the price should be. The prices
quoted show the judgment of the merchants themselves as to what quality of article
should be sent. I don't think Close ever had any experience as to the goods required by
the Government; Frank Smith had supplied, and his price for sugar is Jc. over me. Mr.
Jaffray's prices may have been the first he ever submitted. He could buy to as good
advantage as we could.
To Mr. Gibson. — I think we supplied the Colonization Koads previous to 1867.
To Mr. Ferris. — A merchant or expert who had examined the goods and made a
memorandum of his book would be able to judge as to which price list would give him
the best value. It would not be unusual for a merchant to agree to furnish to a Govern-
ment or contractors, to give the same grade and value, at a stated price for a particular
period, after samples had been examined.
To the Chairman. —Among merchants, that is not a usual way of dealing, but with
contractors it is not out of the way to do it.
To Mr. Ferris. — I. have been in business about 15 years. I don't know that we ever
had a written contract of the kind which I have described as not unusual. We contract
with the Government for a specified quality according to sample. In • what we have
done, the quantities were usually mentioned. I don't know that we ever had a contract
with Government or any one else without the quantity being specified or being pretty
well understood. We never had a contract to furnish goods of a certain quality at a stated
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price in unlimited quantities. Merchants don't do business of that kind without having
an idea of the quantity wanted.
To Mr. Hardy. — Before 1874 we never sent in to the government a quotation of
what we would furnish goods for. Usually in a day or two after we would get an order
for goods.
Our sugars are f of a cent per pound lower than Mr. Jaffray in the tenders for 1874.
Our tender is lower throughout, but tea. Sugar is 8 cts., our tea is 30 to 50cts., syrup is
47cts. I think this would be suitable to send. It would be good medium syrup at a
low price. We charged 55 cts. in 1873 for syrups. I assume that it was then higher.
I am not sure it was. Sugars were higher. I would not at present swear they were
higher. We charged O^cts. Tea in 1873 we charged 60cts. Teas changed. Our account
is dated June 13th, 1873. We would send the goods to the nearest station and send du-
plicate bills to the Department. We sent shipping bills sometimes to Mr. Bridgland. In
1871 we had no uniform way of sending our shipping bills. Mr. Bridgland gave instruc-
tions regarding shipping. The invoices are made out to the Department, and sent there.
We always considered Mr. Bridgland the officer of the Department. I don't remember
communicating to the heads of the Department. The letter of August 25th, 1871, was
sent to Mr. Cameron, because we were glad to see him appointed. The letter is in my
own handwriting, as is follows : —
ONTARIO CHAMBERS,
August 25th, 1871.
M. C. CAMERON, Es
Commissioner Crown Lands.
DEAR SIR, — It gives us very great pleasure to acknowledge the receipt of yours of the
18th instant, being the first kind favour from you in your new Department.
We are respectfully,
(Signed) W. & K GRIFFITH.
I think it refers to the first order we got for goods after Mr. Cameron's appointment
to the head of the Department. Mr. Cameron is an old personal friend, and I was very
proud of his appointment.
To the Chairman. — I think we showed Mr. Cashman samples in 1874. If he asked
for samples we showed them, and I think he did ask for them. Previous to 1872, the
goods were not always personally inspected by persons ordering them. He did not com-
pare them with the samples given at the beginning of the year. I have not been able
to find the price of golden syrup in 1875. I could not speak of Mr. Jaffray's syrups fur-
nished in 1874, from 52 to 55cts., 60cts. is not too high for good tea. It ought to be good
tea at that. Previous to 1874, Mr. Bridgland came with a memorandum and got our quo-
tations. He looked at the samples at the same time in the beginning of the year.
Question by the Hon. Mr. McDougall. — From your experience as a merchant, do
you consider that the so called tenders asked from merchants by the Crown Lands Depart-
ment were of any advantage to the government in respect to the quality and price of the
goods ultimately furnished.
A. I don't think there is much advantage gained. It depends a great deal on the
respectability of the house. Tenders may be asked for and unfair prices might be given,
and any loss might be made up to the house on subsequent orders, so that I don't think
the government would gain much. I look upon the tender produced (synopsis of tender) as
a formal tender. This tender would not be repeated in every case, and throughout the
year I don't think the gain would be great enough to pay for advertising.
Q. By Hon. Mr. Macdougall. — If the agent of the Department examined the goods
without reference to the tenders at the time of purchase, would not that examination
be a better security to the government than to rely on tenders without such exami-
nation 1
A. — I think it would, assuming of course, the individual knew something of the
goods, and was accustomed to buy.
To Mr. Hardy. — I have known Mr. Jaffray 15 or 20 years. He stands well in the
trade, and bears the reputation of an honourable dealer.
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Q. By Mr. Meredith. — Do you think that it would be of advantage, assuming that the
Department dealt with houses of respectability, to require tenders for the supply of
groceries for a fixed period, at a fixed price, for goods equal to the grade sample furnished
with the tender.
A. Still assuming that they were dealing with a respectable house, it might be an
advantage that it would be a guide if they had the samples. There might be advantage
there if a government officer would get samples of just the kind of goods and kind of
grades he wanted, and if a respectable house would keep up with the sample, each having
duplicates, at fixed prices ; assuming also that the officer understood the goods.
Q. By Mr. Ferris. — Would it not depend on whether the goods went up or down
the market.
A. No, I am assuming it is a respectable house, and if they agree to give a certain
grade of goods they would do so. If the price went down, the government would have
to suffer ; but I think it would gain, taking all things into account. I never suggested
that plan to the government during the years I was dealing with them.
To the Chairman. — If the government had certain samples at the beginning of the
year, and both government and merchant would have samples, I think an annual con-
tract with a respectable house, at fixed rates, would be an advantage.
EGBERT J. GRIFFITH.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
Friday, 9th February, 1877.
Committee met.
Present :
The Chairman.
Hon. Messieurs Crooks, Messieurs Lauder,
Macdougall, Ross,
Wood, Hardy,
Messieurs Ballantyne, Deacon,
Gibson, Ferris,
Merrick, Meredith,
Williams, Striker.
Minutes of last meeting read and confirmed.
Moved by Hon. Mr. Wood, — That Mr. Langmuir be first examined.
Moved in amendment by Mr. Lauder,— That Mr. John Morison be first examined.
The amendment being first put and the yeas and nays being called for were taken
down as follows : —
Yeas. Nay
Messieurs Deacon, Hon. Mr. Wood,
Lauder, Messieurs Gibson,
Meredith, Hardy,
Merrick. — 4 Ross,
Striker,
Williams.— 6.
So it passed in the negative.
And the original motion being put was carried on the same division.
Mr. John Morison was then permitted to retire, being first requested to appear
again before the Committee on Tuesday next, at 10 o'clock A.M.
Mr. Langmuir was then called, sworn, and examined as to the method of obtaining
supplies for Public Institutions.
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(See Appendix K to this day's Minutes. )
Mr. Langmuir produced papers (0 1 and D 1) showing total cost of maintaining
Public Institutions. (See Mr. Langmuir's evidence this day.)
Further examination postponed, and Mr. Langmuir requested to appear again before
Committee on Thursday next, the 15th instant. .
Adjourned until 10 A. M. on Tuesday next.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
(K.)
TORONTO, Friday Feb. 9th, 1877.
J. W. Langmuir, being called and sworn, deposed :
To Mr. Hardy. — I am Inspector of Asylums, Prisons, and Public Charities. I have
been nine years in that position, commencing in 1868. I was the first occupant under
the Act after Confederation. The purchases of supplies for public institutions made by
me are under the instruction and authority of the Provincial Secretary. When I took
office, almost everything was submitted to tender — certainly all groceries, provisions, and
stores. I don't think dry goods were. The same system is in operation now. Perishable
supplies, such as butter, flour, oat meal, corn meal, pot barley, pork, meat, &c., are now
tendered for. The following is the complete list of articles of supply that is tendered for :
butcher's meat, flour, oat meal, barley, pork, hams and bacon, butter, cordwood and coal.
Everything but these are bought in the open market. We do not call for tenders
for groceries and dry goods, because I find it better not to do so, and have so reported.
I found, when first appointed, that teas, sugars, groceries were asked for by tender. The
offers were then almost exclusively confined to retail men under the system referred to,
viz. : by public tender accompanied by samples. I found at my quarterly inspection that
the goods were not those tendered for, and of which samples had been shown. It is very
obvious the goods can't be the same, if a certain class of stores are asked for, and the
tenders of retail traders are accepted, because they cannot keep the same class of goods
always in stock. On many occasions the goods were not as good as samples. For instance,
young hyson tea would be asked for, the best that could be given, for say, 60 cents a lb.,
and if, say 100 chests were required to be delivered at various times during the year, we
found the contractor did not supply the same quality as he would have, had it been de-
livered at once. We were dealing with retail groceries, and very generally paid retail
prices. When first appointed to office, I was not attached to any minister of the Crown,
but consulted with Mr. Sandfield Macdonald, the Premier. I reported to him and he
represented to the Government of the day, that we were paying retail prices and not get-
ting the benefit that should attach to cash purchases. On page 27 of my second annual
report (1869), my remarks on this point are to be found. The tender system in regard
to groceries was abolished in 1869, I think.
To Mr. McDougall — We changed from the tender system to purchasing dry-goods
and groceries in the open market. We generally buy from the local dealers where the
institutions are situated, but when we find we are not getting value, we withdraw our
trade to another quarter, as we have done in London twice.
To Mr. Hardy. — A requisition for supplies is made by every institution at the begin-
ning of every quarter of the year, and transmitted to me. I consult with the officers of
Toronto institutions as to the quality of goods they want, and I frequently proceed to
the various dealers, and buy the goods just as a merchant in good standing would. They
deliver the goods immediately. In London and Toronto, we have store-houses, and buy
the quarter's supply at once, so that a bill large enough to make it important to whole-
sale houses is obtained. The prices under our present system are very much lower than
before, and the quality now is just what we buy and pay for. Upon the whole, the result of
the change is most satisfactory. We get the very goods that we buy at a very much
lower price than before, and at the lowest wholesale rates. Formerly the competition
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was almost exclusively confined to retail dealers, the goods were seldom obtained below
retail rates. The result of the change has been that the cost of maintaining the patients
per head has been reduced. The reduction in maintenance is not altogether due to that,
because the greater the number in the public institution, the cost per head would be less,
but we have reduced the cost by the new system not less than $10 or $11 per head per
annum. In 1868, the year that I based my recommendation on, the cost per head was
$155 in the Toronto Lunatic Asylum, last year it was $132, 1 think, in London, and $128
in Toronto, and this in the face of the fact, that groceries, flour and provisions have ad-
vanced, and the dietary list of the patients has been considerably improved.
To Mr. McDougall. — I think that it is infra dig. for wholesale men to send samples
and give tenders, unless they have a retail shop attached to their business. The supply
of Public Institutio'ns got to be looked upon as a retail trade, and wholesale dealers would
not tender; e.g., in the case, of a purchase of 100 chests of tea, the delivery would be
spread over the whole year, so that the orders would be small. We have retained many
of the accounts the Institutions had in 1869 ; of course we have taken on new ones. I
think the accounts are very fairly distributed between the old and new accounts. In
some cases the new ones have been pretty large. I rely entirely on my own judgment
in purchasing goods. The minister is not responsible for the quality of the goods and
prices, but when requisitions are sent in I consult with him as to whom the goods should
be bought from. The cost of Public Institutions for 1874 and 1875, two years, was
$552,166.49. The amount of goods tendered for, in round numbers, was $200, §00. The
groceries and dry-goods — bought in open market — amounted to $93,599. The wine, beer,
and spirits are placed under the control of the Medical Superintendents, who purchase
them. These supplies in the two years amounted to $10,249. Salaries and wages
amounted to $178,870, other services such as light, laundry, repairs, &c., amounted to
$69,235. The only thing that could be submitted to tender in addition to those named,
would be groceries and dry goods. I submit schedules of purchases of supplies, for 1874,
(Cl), and 1875, (Dl).
TOTAL EXPENDITURE for the Maintenance of all the Public Institutions of the Province
for 1874.
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INSTITUTIONS.
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21,389 81
20,113 17
38,741 74
31,832 36
5,883 31
f 913 59
4,723 91
6,583 94
2,544 32
2 790 98
8,296 15
11 078 89
81,579 24
80 312 93
Institution for Deaf and
Dumb
13,885 86
9,973 86
2 367 72
1,025 81
124 74
3876 06
31 254 05
Institution for Blind
9,264 18
5,843 02
1,089 54
564 63
53 81
3,791 29
20,606 47
Central Prison
9,561 39
11,568 71
3,274 39
3,911 21
171 05
1,985 18
30,472 43
Provincial Reformatory . .
11,074 12
3,685 52
641 89
2,629 71
78 09
3,324 12
21,433 45
Total *
85,289 03
101,645 21
21,170 44
19,439 21
5,762 99
32,351 09
265,658 57
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22,262 41
35,475 00
8,678 17
7,621 84
1,931 19
9,487 14
85,455 75
London Asylum ..
20,971 99
31,322 54
8,968 61^
9,690 96
2,268 48£
10,819 37
84,041 96
Institution for Deaf and
Dumb
14,464 79
10,261 73
2,112 01
1,169 83
83 53
4,844 35
32,936 24
Institution for the Blind..
10,539 39
6,076 71
1,760 25
402 83
69 24
3,836 75
22,685 17
Central Prison
15,148 47
11,619 41
3,388 22
4,452 88
133 15
4,852 67
39,594 80
Provincial Reformatory...
10,194 82
3,710 15
1,041 95
3,702 75
100 89
3,043 44
21,794 00
Total
93,581 87
98,465 54
25,949 21 J
27,041 09
4,586 48£
36,883 72
286,507 92
The goods tendered for are advertised for in the last of December of each year in
every town where there is a Public Institution.
To Mr. Meredith. — The papers are Government papers, except in Toronto, where we
advertise in the Mail.
To Mr. Hardy. — The tenders are sealed up, and put in a locked box of which I have
the key. At noon of the last day, they are opened and entered in a book numbered, which
I submit to the minister in charge, with my recommendation for acceptance. I have al-
ways recommended the lowest tender, and it has been invariably accepted, except in one
case where an old contractor who gave satisfaction was only one cent per 100 Ibs. higher
on beef than a new man.
To Mr. Meredith. — The lowest tenders were accepted, under all governments under
whom I have served.
To Mr. McDougall. — The tenders are given on a definitely stated quality of goods.
These specifications I produce.
To Mr. Hardy. — The purchases in open market, are made in many cases from per-
sons with whom we have dealt. Some are Conservatives and some Reformers. When I
render my quarterly requisitions, Mr. Wood has asked me if I could not buy a certain
line of goods from so and so. I would report that I could do so in certain lines, if I
found I could do so, and the order would be given to the party for those certain lines.
To Mr. Ferris. — No minister under which I ever served has attempted to induce me
to give a larger price to particular persons.
To Mr. Hardy — The purchases at London are made by the bursar, who gets offers,
price-lists and samples from the several houses. If I could not visit London at the time
myself, I ask him to send the samples down for examination, before I sanction any pur-
chases. I have about 200 samples now in my room, from different places. In London
some years ago, I think the merchants would not offer groceries and particularly dry-
goods, as low as I could get quotations here. I told the bursar there to call upon the
merchants and tell them that the purchase would be paid for to within 10 or 12 days, and
give their quotations accordingly. I was not satisfied with them, and bought in Toronto,
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that year. Since that the London merchants give better quotations, and we buy from
them now altogether.
To Mr. Meredith. — Wherever there has been a departure from the acceptance of the
lowest tender, I give my report on the tenders in writing. My reports are usually given
orally. In case of a tender for coal and wood, if the coal was higher and the wood lower
than prices quoted in other tenders, we are governed by the lowest total of the whole.
Coal and wood merchants know this. Recommendations are made orally, with regard to
goods purchased in open market. I very frequently don't go near the minister at all,
except when the January bills, which are large, come in. In Toronto I visit the mer-
chants myself. In other places I get samples at the beginning of the year. I have re-
commended the purchase of an annual supply at one time if goods are low and we have
store-houses attached. The London bursar sends price-lists and samples quarterly. I
hold myself entirely responsible as to the quality and price of the goods. I leave the
purchase of smaller lots of goods to judgment of the Bursars. I do not always instruct
as to from whom the Bursar shall buy, but I select the prices and qualities wanted.
Mr. Wood never interfered with me in regard to London purchasers,5and he has sometimes
given me the name of a wholesale dealer in Toronto, and purchases would be made from
him if he oifered as low as others. In 1 874 we bought upwards of $6,000 of groceries
from Frank Smith & Co.; in London we bought from Elliot Bros.; also from others. In
every case we got good value. Dry-goods we bought in Toronto that year. Next year
we bought entirely in London. I am not aware that the purchases were changed from
London to Toronto in 1874 in consequence of representations made by a wholesale house.
None such were made to me. We buy about the same class of goods in groceries as
would be suitable for a good respectable farm-house. I dare say it would be advantageous
to buy all government supplies through one officer, on account of the quantities required.
I find considerable uniformity of prices among large wholesale merchants here. I think
the principle adopted by a good respectable country merchant is a good one for Govern-
ment institutions. The purchases in London have been as low as in any part of the
country, taking freight, etc. into account.
To Mr. Hardy. — We have regular contractors for the Blind Institute in Brantford.
At present they are : — For butcher's meat, Touse ; for butter, Forbes ; for fuel, Mann ;
for wood, Ford & Son. We don't contract for groceries. We get groceries from George
Watt, other supplies from Foster & Turner. We buy there from month to month, or
quarterly, for we have no storehouse there.
To Mr. Lauder. — Groceries have been purchased in Toronto for outside institutions.
In one instance, in 1874, I found the London offers were not as good as we got here, and
I bought that year upwards of $5,000 or $6,000 from Cramp, Torrance & Co., by auction.
We bought very low, at a trade sale. The supplies were sent to London and Belleville.
I have bought groceries and dry goods in Toronto for Orillia. John Waldy has been the
contractor for butter for five years for many of the Public Institutions. He lives at Wel-
lington Square. He has tendered every year I have been in office. Last year he sup-
plied butter to Belleville, Brantford, and Toronto. He furnished flour one year. Mr.
Waldy got the contract first many years ago. In 1876, we sent groceries from Toronto
only to Orillia. I may have sent blankets, bought at a very low rate from the Cornwall
Manufacturing Company, to Hamilton. We have sent almost all the groceries from To-
ronto to Penetanguishene. The small things we bought there. We never bought at
Barrie. We buy for the Hamilton Asylum almost exclusively at Hamilton. Sheetings
bought from England — a particular width — were sent to Hamilton from here. In 1869-
70, we chiefly bought groceries from Michie & Co. During 1875-76, we have been buy-
ing from Mr. John Morison. One year — 1874 — we supplied teas, bought at auction, to
outside places. In 1876-77, we bought the whole year's supply of teas, as we thought
they would advance during the year, and I recommended that plan. I suppose we will
buy and have bought 300 chests, taking December purchases into account. The teas
vary in quality. I get good value in uncoloured Japans, which give the best satisfaction.
The December purchases were made from J. C. Fitch & Co., John Morison, Fulton &
Michie, and John Baxter. I can't now give you the amounts, as I have not prepared the
statement for 1876. J. W. LANGMUIR.
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TREASURER'S OFFICE,
Tuesday, 13th February, 1877.
Committee met at 10 A.M., pursuant to adjournment.
Present :
The Chairman, Messieurs Striker,
Messieurs Gibson, Williams.
Koss,
Committee adjourned at 10.19 A.M., for want of a quorum.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
Wednesday, 14th February, 1877.
Committee met at 10 A.M.
Present :
The Chairman, Messieurs Merrick,
Messieurs Deacon, Koss,
Ferris, Striker,
Gibson, Williams,
Lauder, Wills.
Minutes of last meeting read and confirmed.
Mr. John Morison, Wholesale Grocer, Toronto, called, sworn and examined, relative
to groceries supplied by him for Public Institutions, and the general mode of furnishing
such supplies.
Evidence read to and signed by witness, who was then discharged.
(See Evidence Appendix L. to this day's Minutes.)
On motion of Mr. Merrick, it was Resolved, — That the Committee meet at 11 A.M.
to-morrow.
Ordered, that Mr. Langmuir be summoned to appear before the Committee to-
morrow.
Adjourned.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
TORONTO, Feb. Hth, 1877.
John Morison sworn, deposed :
To Mr. Lauder. — I am a wholesale grocer in Toronto. We have furnished supplies
to the Government. 1875 was the first year we supplied. Mr. Langmuir was the first to
come into our store. Mr. Short came afterwards, and said he wanted to look at some
groceries. The first order was for $147.05 in July,>1875. In 1875 we supplied |634.69
worth of goods to the Central Prison. They were all ordered by Mr. Short, Bursar. We
supplied goods first in 1875, to the Lunatic Asylum. Mr. Langmuir came into my office
and wanted to see groceries. I did not know him when he came in, I had not seen
Mr. Wood or any other member of the Government on the subject of supplies. We have
supplied the Lunatic Asylum since. Their account is open at present. I think last
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December we sent a few hundred dollars worth to Orillia — no other place outside of
Toronto, to my knowledge. I knew the supplies were for the Government. Mr. Lang-
muir, I think, always buys goods himself when they are over a few hundred dollars.
Sometimes we send goods by order — small quantities. We always showed samples in
selling. The order to Orillia, including ten boxes of tea in December, amounted to about
$800. The total amount of our sales for 1875 to the Government was $4,590.18 ; for
1876, $5,509.76. These were direct sales out of my own warehouse. I have had no
other sales. We do no selling to the Government except from our own store. Mr. Lang-
muir looks at samples before buying.
To Mr. Ferris. — Mr. Langmuir opened the account for the Asylum ; Mr. Short for
the Central Prison. I knew nothing about their coming till they came.
To the Chairman. — We never solicited the account at all. A cash buyer could not
have done any better by us than the Government did.
To Mr. Wills. — Mr. Langmuir generally buys when he comes in. Sometimes he takes
a price list, and orders afterwards.
To Mr. Gibson. — I don't think the Government would be supplied cheaper by con-
tracting at the beginning of the season at fixed prices for what would be required. Gro-
ceries have no regular "brand. I take the Government to be in the position of a merchant
buying $40,000 or $50,000 a year, and owing to the fluctuations in prices, it would not
pay the merchant or Government to advertise. It would be far better to come in, look
at the goods, take their chances, and buy as they require. The item of interest on a large
order would be saved by not buying at once.
To Mr. Ferris. — The Government pursues the universal practice of the trade.
To. Mr. Gibson. — I would place the Government in the position of a retail mer-
chant. I think it better for a merchant or the Government to buy about once in three
months. Assuming that my last argument holds good, I don't think a dollar would be
gained by advertising and getting samples at the same time, because I presume the per-
son who buys now would buy after the advertisement, and the samples would be of no
more use in his office than they would in the stores, where he could see them.
To Mr. Ferris. — The Government, by their expert, transact their business in the same
manner as a retail merchant.
To the Chairman. — I consider Mr. Langmuir and Mr. Short keen buyers, and fully
efficient for the duty of purchasing.
To Mr. Lauder. — The system I would recommend would not apply to books. The
argument is not analogous. Tea fluctuates ; I have never, in all my experience, been able
to duplicate exactly an order for tea.
To the Chairman. — Coal is brought here by vessels, and is delivered to the pur-
chaser's place.
To. Mr. Ross. — I don't believe our best houses would trouble themselves to tender
for groceries. The sample of tea that might be tendered for at the beginning of the year,
would not be in stock at a subsequent time, and the quality of the second quantity might
be poorer than that ordered.
To Mr. Ferris. — I have sometimes seen 120 or 140 chests of the same tea. They
would run from 20 chests to 170 chests of a line. A particular line of tea can be fur-
nished to the extent of the quantity of the particular line ; it is the same as with butter ;
when the quantity supplied by one farmer is exhausted, the quality of that supplied by
another farmer would probably not be the same. There is a fixed standard by which
flour can be known and purchased.
To Mr. Lauder. — There are no brands of syrups. There is no such thing as inspec-
tion, like flour inspection.
To Mr. Merrick. — Amber syrups vary in price lOc. to 15c. a gallon. There is no
number by which they are known. We had a refiner in Montreal up to a few years ago.
He had regular brands, and we generally purchased from him at that time ; but even then
his brands were not always the same quality, and sometimes would make an allowance of
three cents. It has paid us within the last few years to import from New York, except
during the war.
To the Chairman. — I have supplied syrups to the Government.
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To Mr. Lauder. — I am not in favour of advertising for tenders for groceries. I don't
think the Government would gain anything by it. The Government can buy now, the
same as any other cash customer, at 5 per cent, to 7 per cent, over cost for cash, at any
wholesale house in the city. I don't think they could do better than that.
To the Chairman. — I always believed that we were competing with other parties
when Mr. Langmuir called on us.
To Mr. Ferris. — When Mr. Langmuir gave one order, we never knew that he was
coming back again.
To Mr. Merrick. — Mr. Langmuir gave us the order for large quantities, like ten
chests of tea or two or three hogsheads of sugar. We commenced furnishing goods to
the Government in 1875. Mr. Short stated what kind of goods he wanted. He asked to
see samples and get prices of certain grades of groceries, and purchased there and then.
I am aware that the Government advertised for pork and flour. The prices vary. I
don't think a merchant would ask for tenders for even pork. I put the Government in a
similar position. I see by advertisements that the Government asks for tender for pork
and flour. The same rule regarding value of pork and -flour does not apply to groceries,
which have no brand. We know rice upon seeing it, by comparing quality. We know
soap by certain grades. We can buy lines of tea up to certain quantities, about 170 chests.
The average lines are 50 to 80 chests ; 170 chests was the largest quantity of one line I
ever bought. If I were purchasing I would go around, get prices, and compare samples.
Without comparison of samples, prices are of no value. I don't think it is a proper way
to give price lists without samples.
To Mr. Ross. — It would not be necessary to send samples if the purchaser saw" the
samples when asking for prices.
To Mr. Merrick. — I think wholesale houses would not tender, because they and im-
porters very seldom tender. If the purchaser wanted to buy the whole stock of tea, for
instance, in a particular line, it would be legitimate for the wholesale dealer to sell ; but
they would not bind themselves to supply the same grade all through the year. Groceries
are not inspected like flour, and the tendering system is open to be abused.
To Mr. Ross. — The government could be imposed upon by a dishonest dealer.
To Mr. Merrick. — In politics I am a supporter of the present administration.
To Mr. Gibson. — My opinion is most decidedly opposed to advertising for groceries
at all, on account of the small profit on groceries and fluctuation in prices.
To the Chairman. — The purchase of Mr. Short was made after that made by Mr.
Langmuir, for the Lunatic Asylum. When Mr. Short asked for prices, we believed he
did so for the purpose of comparison with prices already in his book. Mr. Langmuir
asked for prices and looked at our goods.
To Mr. Lauder. — Mr. Langmuir purchased there and then.
To the Chairman. — The whole of a long line of teas is not often bought by a retail
merchant. I don't consider it advisable in our own business to buy a whole year's stock
in advance. I know of no one who does. The practice is not common.
J. MORISON.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
Thursday, 15th February, 1877.
Committee met at 1 1 o'clock, A.M.
Present :
The Chairman, Messieurs Ross,
Hon. Messieurs Crooks and Wood, Striker,
Messieurs Ferris, Williams,
Gibson, Wills.
Lauder,
Minutes of last meeting read and confirmed.
Mr. Langmuir being absent from the city, the Chairman read the following explana-
tory telegram :
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HAMILTON, February 14th, 1877.
C. Clarke, M.P.P., Chairman Public Accounts Committee :
" Cannot reach Toronto before 1 P.M to-morrow, unless I leave my work undone in
London.
" (Signed) J, W. LANGMUIR,
"Inspector."
The Committee proceeded to the further consideration of the Public Accounts of
1875, page 49, under the head of " Administration of Justice."
Mr. Wills asked for papers showing in detail the expenditure in the Counties of
Brant, Elgin and Hastings, for the administration of Criminal Justice.
Mr. Gibson asked for similar papers for the County of Huron. Papers produced in
both cases.
The Committee decided to call Mr. Henry Totten, Audit Clerk of Criminal Justice
Accounts, to give the necessary explanations in regard to the items asked for, and being
called was sworn, and gave evidence touching the matter of enquiry.
(See Appendix M. to this day's Minutes.)
Evidence read to and signed by the witness.
On motion of Mr. Williams, it was ordered that the papers relative to the Administra-
tion of Criminal Justice in the County of Wentworth, and the City of Hamilton, for the
years 1873 and 1876 be produced.
The Chairman was authorized to make another application to the Public Works
Department for the statement of expenses incurred in the construction of the Central
Prison, as asked for by resolution of 17th January last.
Mr. Laugmuir was ordered to be summoned to give evidence to-morrow.
Adjourned until 11 o'clock A.M., tomorrow.
CHARLES CLARKE,
CJiairman.
TORONTO, Feb, 15th, 1877.
Henry Totten, sworn, deposed :
To Mr. Wills. — I am the auditor of the Criminal Justice accounts (account of J.
Cockshutt's, Brantford, of April, 1875, for $110.90 produced.) I consider all of this
account a proper charge upon the Administration of Criminal Justice. (Account of
Francis T. Fox, Brantford, April 1st, 1875, produced.) This account also would be a
proper charge upon the Administration of Criminal Justice. The accounts of the Sheriff
and Constables are paid in full by the Government. Supplies are paid by the Govern-
ment in the proportion of -/-/-/T- in Brant County for March quarter, 1874.
To Mr. Wood. — The Government pays the whole of the accounts for Sheriffs, Clerks
of the Peace, County Attorneys, so far as they relate to Criminal Justice, all Coroners'
accounts for items mentioned in the tariff. Constables are paid by Government. The
salary of the Gaoler, the Gaol Surgeon, the Turnkey and the gaol supplies are paid in
the proportion which the criminal prisoners bear to the whole. For instance, if 833 should
represent the number of days of criminal prisoners confined, and 3,154 the civil prisoners,
the Government would then pay a proportion of ^W The accounts are sent to the
Department by the County Treasurers, after being audited by a local board of audit. We
are guided in auditing the accounts by the tariffs. The tariff relating to Sheriffs was
passed in 1868 ; that of the County Attorney was established by C. S U. C. chap. 106,
and by an Order in Council passed May 31st, 1861, and by the tariff relating to County
Judges Criminal Court ; that of the Clerk of the Peace, by a tariff established by the
Judges of the Superior Court, in 1862, and by the tariff relating to County Judges Crim-
inal Court ; that of the Coroner, by a tariff established by the Judges of the Superior
Court, in 1845 ; that of the Constables by an Order in Council, approved July 24, 1874 ;
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that of the Crier was established in 1845. After auditing the accounts, I recommend
payment thereof to the Governor in Council. Where deductions are made, an abstract
of them and the reasons therefor are sent to the County Treasurer. On my recommenda-
tion a cheque is issued in favour of the County Treasurer.
To Mr. Lauder. — We sometimes have complaints from County Treasurers, who claim
that we should pay a greater proportion than we do for Constables, Coroners, and some-
times for gaol maintenance, but principally for Constables. We have had no official com-
plaints— only those of the Treasurers. We find no difficulty in settling disputes. We
treat all County Treasurers alike in regard to taxations and deductions.
To Mr. Wood. — There is hardly a county where there is no grumbling.
To Mr. Ross. — Under Chap. 120 C. S. U. C., certain payments are to be made out
of the Consolidated Revenue Fund. Some County Treasurers claim that the meaning of
the statute is that the Government shall pay the whole of the expenses in connection
with criminal justice. Under Chap. 121 C. S. U. C., the whole of the expenses in con-
nection with the administration of justice were payable out of the district funds. Sub-
sequently to the passing of that Act, Chap. 120 was passed, which provided that in 1846
one-third of the expenses in connection with criminal justice should be paid by Govern-
ment; and in 1847 two-thirds, and subsequently the whole. These proportions were
arrived at by paying the whole out of the district funds, as provided by Chap. 121, and
claiming the one-third and two-thirds from the Government. It was subsequently held
in the case of Bousett v. the County of Lambton, 21 U. C. Reports 80, that the intention
and effect of Chap. 120 C. S. U. C. is that the county shall be paid or re-imbursed by
the Government all such expenses as come within that statute and have been audited by
the proper auditors, according to the regulations of the Government, and not that the Clerks
of the Peace, Coroner, Constables and Criers are to make out severally their accounts
against the Provincial Government for such services ; and in a recent case of the Sheriff7
of Lincoln v. the Treasurer of the Corporation of Lincoln, 31 U. C. Rep. 1, the question
to be decided was whether the County Treasurer was right in refusing to pay the Sheriff's
account, audited and allowed by the County Board of Audit, until it had also been
allowed and audited and the amount of it paid over by the Provincial Government to the
County Treasurer. Mr. Justice Wilson decided — " The Treasurer, after the county audit,
is without further authority to pay such an account as the one in question, unless he can
show that the items in question were so inadmissable and illegal that if they were paid
the money could be recovered again from the person receiving it, the auditing and account-
ing with the Government is a matter alone between the Government and the county.
The auditing by the County Board is a matter between the claimant and the County
Treasurer."
To Mr. Lauder. — I think the accounts in connection withjthe Court of Queen's Bench
are paid on the requisition of Mr. Dalton, who sends the items. I examine and audit all
the accounts for the District of Algoma, Thunder Bay, etc.
To Mr. Wills. — The proportion of the account of J. Cockshutt, Brantford, paid by
the Government, was ff/r, We take it for granted that the whole of the expenses of
the Gaol are sent in, and we strike the proportions. The distinction is between prisoners
confined upon indictable offences and all others. i
To Mr. Lauder. — The accounts for Crown prosecutions, miscellaneous justice, and
special services are audited in the Attorney-General's office.
HENRY TOTTEN.
TREASURER'S OFFICE,
Friday, 16th February 1877.
Committee met at 11 o'clock A.M.
Present :
The Chairman, Messieurs Ross,
Hon. Mr. Wood, Williams,
Messieurs Ferris, Wills.
Gibson,
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Minutes of preceding meeting read and confirmed.
Mr. H. Totten produced papers asked for yesterday by Mr. Williams, relative to
expense of Administration of Criminal Justice in the County of Wentworth, and the City
of Hamilton, and gave the required explanations, for which see his evidence, marked N,
appended to this day's minutes.
Mr. Langnmir, having read and corrected his evidence of the 9th instant, it was read
over to the Committee, and, there being no further questions put, the witness signed his
deposition and was discharged.
A draft Eeport was submitted, and being read by the Chairman, it was adopted, and
the Committee ordered it to be presented to the House this day.
Committee adjourned, subject to the call of the Chairman.
Chairman.
The following Report was presented to the House this day : —
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario.
The Standing Committee on Public Accounts, beg leave to present the following, as
their
THIRD REPORT.
Your Committee have taken evidence as to the system followed in obtaining supplies
for the maintenance of the Public Institutions of the Province, and submit it herewith for
the consideration of the Legislature.
Your Committee have also taken evidence relative to the mode of auditing the ac-
counts of County Treasurers, for the Administration of Criminal Justice, and present it,
together with the minutes of proceedings to this date.
All which is respectfully submitted.
CHARLES CLARKE,
Chairman.
Committee Room, February 16th, 1877.
TORONTO, February 16th, 1877.
Henry Totten, recalled :
To Mr. Williams. — The amount of the account of the Wentworth Clerk of the Peace
for December quarter, 1874, was $594.23; the deductions amounted to $378.21, as being
properly payable by the Co. The items should not have been included in the bills. I
also deducted $86.66 as the amount to which the Clerk of the Peace was not legally enti-
tled from the Government. I do not know whether the account had been paid by the Co.
Treasurer. It was properly audited. The account of the County Attorney amounts to
$320.30 for the same quarter. That is his own private bill, and does not include fees for
constables, etc. I think the practice by the County Treasurer is to pay these accounts af-
ter they are audited by the Local Board. The deductions on this bill amounted to $62,
$20 of which were overcharges, $40 were charges payable by the County. A special
charge of $92 for services at the Assizes was deferred and subsequently allowed.
In March quarter, 1875, the account of the Clerk of the Peace amounted to $169.41,
of this amount $87.86 was deducted as being payable by the County. The County Attor-
ney's account for the same quarter was $224,17, from which $4.50 were deducted as being
improper charges, and $54.89 special charges, the authority for which he did not produce,
and I believe he has not done so, though required to do so.
In June quarter, 1875, the account of the Clerk of the Peace amounted to $222.52.
Of this amount, $22.70 were deducted as being illegal charges; $46.50 were doubtful
charges, the authority for which was asked, and $46.86 were amounts chargeable against
the County. The amount for doubtful items, $46.50 has not been paid yet. In case of
doubtful items which are sometimes for duties performed by instruction from the Attorney
General, if the authority for such items does not come with the account, I defer for
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such authority. The deductions on the accounts of the present Clerk of the Peace and
County Attorney are very much in excess of those of the former County Attorney and
Clerk of the Peace.
HENRY TOTTEN.
DEPARTMENT or PUBLIC WORKS, ONTARIO. *
TORONTO, February 23rd, 1877.
DEAR SIR, — I beg to enclose herewith, for the Committee of Public Accounts, by the
instruction of the Hon., the Commissioner, a Return of the cost of the Central Prison to
31st December 1876, as required by a Resolution of the said Committee, dated the 22nd
January, ultim.
Yours, very truly,
W. EDWARDS,
Stcretary.
W. R. Harris, Esq.,
Treasury Department, Ontario.
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TO THE
TENTH VOLUME.
40 VICTOEIA, 1877.
ACCOUNTS AND PAPEES :
LAID BEFORE THE HOUSE : — Relative to —
Agriculture :
1. Report of the Commissioner of Agriculture, on Agriculture
and Arts, for 1876 (S. Papers No. 4.)
2. Report of the Ontario School of Agriculture, and Experi-
mental Farm, for 1876 (S. Papers No. 12.)
3. Report of the Commissioner of Agriculture, on the Interna-
tional Exhibition ^Philadelphia (S. Papers No. 33.)
4. Algoma : — Statement of amount expended on Colonization
Roads in the District (S. Papers No. 27.)
5. Art, Ontario School of:— Report for 1876. Not Printed.
(S. Papers No. 30.)
6. Astizts:— Number cases tried at the Assizes, Supreme
Courts, &c (S. Papers No. 14.)
Asylums :
7. Report of the Inspector of Asylums and Prisons, for 1876.
(S. Papers No. 2.)
8. Return of the Estates, &c., of Lunatics. Not Printed.
(S. Papers No. 56.)
9. Correspondence relative to the Purchase of the Rockwood
Asylum (S. Papers No. 36.)
ORDERED.
PRE-
iSENTED.
By Act.
Do.
By Com. of
H. E.
By Order.
65.
By Act.
By Address.
1875-6.
139.
By Act.
By Order.
151.
By Com. of
H. E.
189
112
157
79
95
11, 86
95
189
117
11
INDEX.
1877.
ACCOUNTS AND PAPERS— Continued.
:=^=^r=^r
ORDERED.
PRE-
SENTED.
10. Jiirths, Marriages and Deaths: — interim report of the Regis-
trar-General for 1876 (S. Papers No. 16 )
By Act.
14
11 Bonds and Securities of Office : — Return of all Bonds, &c., re-
corded since last return. Not Printed. (S. Papers No. 19.)
Do.
22
Central Prison :
12. Reports, &c., relative to the management of the Prison.
(S. Papers No. 40.)
By Address.
26
98
13. Return as to Coroner's Inquests, &c., at the Prison.
(S. Papers No. 48.)
By Order.
151
157
14. Crown Lands: — Report of the Commissioner for 1876.
(S. Papers No. 11.)
By Act.
78
Division Courts :
15. Returns relative to Division Courts in York, &o.
(S. Papers No. 23. )
1 6. Report of the Inspector of Division Courts.
(S. Papers No. 28.)
By Address.
1875-6.
217
By com. of
H.E.
41
86
Education :
17. Annual Report of the Public Schools (S. Papers No. 3.)
By Act.
146
18. Papers respecting the Book Depository ; also, Special Re-
port (S. Papers No. 23 )
By com. of
H.E.
41, 123
19. Return as to High Schools in operation, &c (S. Papers
No. 26.)
By Order.
35, 86.
66, 98
20. Special Report on Educational Exhibit at Philadelphia
(S. Papers No. 44.
By com. of
H. E.
146
21. Elections: — Return of Election Expenses of Candidates at
last General Election. Not Printed. (S. Papers No. 17.)
By Address.
1875-6. 159.
11
22. Escheats : — Correspondence on the subject of Escheats and
Forfeitures (S. Papers No. 22.)
By com. of
HF
il
23. Essex: — Return as to appointment of Magistrates. Not
Printed (S. Papers No. 37.)
. ij.
By Order.
49.
1 1
124
24 Estimates : — See Supply . . (S Papers No 8 )
% GOTH f\f
17 35
25. Felonies: — Return as to trial of cases of Felonies and
Misdemeanours (/S Papers No 46)
\J\JLLL. \Ji
H. E.
By Order.
49.
-LI) *J«Jj
146,152
150
26. Immigration .—Report for 1876 (8. Pavers No. 51 ^
Rv Ap.t,
178
1877.
INDEX.
Ill
ACCOUNTS AND PAFERS-Continued.
27. Juries : — Return of the number of cases tried by Juries in
1874 and 1875 (S. Papers No. 15.)
28. Library : — Report of Librarian (S. Papers No. 6.)
29. London Life Insurance Co. : — Annual Statement. Not
Printed (S. Papers Ao. 21.)
30. Mercer, Andrew : — Return as to the property of the late
A. Mercer (S. Papers No. 7.)
31. Municipal Elections: — Return of expenses of Elections un-
der the Ballot Act. Not Printed. (S. Papers No. 52.)
32. Municipal Loan Fund : — Schedules of payments made up
to 1st November, 1876 (S. Papers No. 10. )
33. Municipal Statistics: — Not Printed. (S. Papers No. 50.)
34. Ontario Mutual Life Assurance : — Annual Statement. J\ot
Printed (S. Papers No. 34.)
35. Ottawa L'Institut Canadien : — Annual Statement. Not
Printed (S. Papers No. 25.)
36. Police Services : — Amount paid by cities &c., for Police Ser-
vices, and to Constables (S. Papers No. 53.)
37. Practical Science, School of: — Annual Report.
(S. Papers No. 13.)
38. Printing: — Copy of Printing Contract. (S. Papers No. 29.)
39. Public Accounts : — Public Accounts for 1875; also state-
ment of receipts and expenditure for 1876.
(S. Papers No. 1.)
40. Public Works : — Report of the Commissioner for 1876.
(£ Papers No. 5.)
Railways :
41. Tabular statement of Railways (S. Papers No. 9.)
42. Return of Correspondence and Papers relating to the fol-
lowing Railways : — Belleville and North Hastings; Ham-
ilton and North Western; Credit Valley; Erie and
Huron ; Huron and Quebec ; Kingston and Pembroke ;
Lake Simcoe Junction ; London, Huron and Bruce ;
L'Orignal and Caledonia ; Midland ; Montreal and City
of Ottawa ; Norfolk ; North Simcoe ; Prince Arthur's
and Kamanistiquia ; Prince Edward County ; South West-
ern, Stratford and Huron ; Toronto, Grey and Bruce ;
Victoria ; Wellington, Grey and Bruce ; Whitby and Poi't
(S. Papers No. 41.)
ORDERED.
By Address.
1875-6. 44.
i Rule No.
106.
By Act.
By Address.
18.
By Address.
1875-6. 216.
By com. of
H. E. 170
PRE-
SENTED.
11
4
30
127
182
Do.
By Act.
Do.
By Address.
48
By Act.
By Order.
18
By com. of
H. E.
By Act.
By Order
1875-6.
143
By com. of
H. E.
170
112
66
182
11
86
11,95
11
12
150,157,
162,168,
178
IV
INDEX.
1877.
ACCOUNTS AND PAPERS— Continued.
ORDERED.
PRE-
SENTED.
43. Registrars : — Statement of the fees and emoluments for
1876 (S. Papers No. 49.
By Act.
By com. of
H.E.
Do.
By Act.
By com. of
H.E.
By Order.
183
By Order.
65
By com. of
H.E.
By Act.
By Order.
86
By A ddress/
64
By Address.
86
By Act.
By com. of
H.E.
158
124
140, 182
41
26
189
150
150,
188
98
103
117
146
136
44. Scott, Thomas : — Correspondence respecting claims for re
ward ($. Papers No. 38.)
45. Spirit Licenses : — Eeturn of Licenses for 1875-6. No
Printed. Also, Eeport of the Provincial Secretary on
the working of Tavern and Shop License Act for 1876
(S. Papers No. 42.)
Statutes of Ontario :
46. Eeport of the Queen's Printer on the disposal of the Sta-
tutes for 1876 Not Printed. (S Papers No 18)
47. Third report of the Commissioners for Consolidating the
Statutes ... (S Papers No 20 )
48. Sunday Retook : — Correspondence as to supply of books.
Not Printed (S Papers No 55)
Timber Licenses:
49. Eeturn respecting Timber Licenses (S. Papers No. 45.)
50. Eeturn as to Timber dues in MusJcoka and Parry Sound.
(S. Papers No, 47.)
51. Toronto House-Building Association : — Annual statement.
Not Printed (S Papers A o 54)
Toronto University:
52. Statement of Endowment Fund, income, &c.
(S Papers No. 31.)
53. Minutes of Meetings of the Senate, 1874-5-6.
(S. Papers No. 32.)
54. Trent River : — Correspondence as to works.
(8. Papers No. 35.)
55. University College : — Annual Eeport of Council. Not Printed.
(S. Papers No. 43.)
56. Wilson, Judge : — Correspondence respecting moneys re-
ceived by the late Judge Wilson (S. Pavers No. 39.)
ACTS :— Bill introduced to make verbal correction in Acts, 179. Second reading ; Com-
mitted, and read the third time, 187. E. A., 189 (40 Vic. c. 88.) See Repeal.
ADELAIDE, TOWNSHIP OF :— Petition presented, 52. Eeported, 63. Bill introduced and
referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills, 64. Eeported, 91. Eeferred to Commit-
tee on Private Bills, 93. Eeported, 104. Fees remitted, 110. Second reading, 115.
Committed, 126. Third reading, 128. E. A., 189. (40 Vic c 46 )
1877. INDEX. v
ADDKESSES :
To THE LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR :— Relative to
1. Civil Service Appointments : — Appointments to the Civil Service from 1867 to 1876, 91.
2. Scott, W. A. : — Order in Council relative to claims of W. A. Scott against the
Province, 169.
3. Speech : — The Speech from the Throne at the opening of Parliament ; Motion for an
Address, 5. Amendments moved relative to Municipal taxation, 8. Certain para-
graphs acrreed to, 7, 9. Committee appointed to draft Address ; Reported, 9. Agreed
to ; To be engrossed ; To be presented by the Members of the Executive Council, 10.
Reply, 21.
4. Timber Limits : — Holders of Timber Limits in Muskoka and Parry Sound Free Grant
Districts, 168.
i
AGRICULTURE, HORTICULTURE, ARTS and MANUFACTURES : — Bill introduced, 17. Second
reading, and referred to Select Committee, 25. Reported, 99. Committed, 129, 139.
Resolutions relative to the expenses of the Act agreed to in Committee, 138. Third
reading, 142. R.A,, 189. (40 Vic. c. 17.) See Accounts, 1, 2. 3.
AGRICULTURAL FARM : — See Accounts, 2. Supply, 3.
ALGOMA : — Colonization Roads : — See Accounts, 4.
ALMA COLLEGE AT ST. THOMAS : — Petition presented, 28. Reported, 39. Bill intro-
duced, 40. Reported, 79. Second reading, 115. Committed, 128. Third reading,
138. Fees remitted, 170. R. A. 189. (40 Vic. c. 64.)
ALMONTE, ST. JOHN'S CHURCH AT : — Petition presented, 20. Reported, 39. Bill intro-
duced, 48. Reported, 85. Fees remitted, 85. Second reading, 94. Committed, 100.
Third reading, 103. R. A., 189. (40 Yic. c. 51.)
ART, SCHOOL OF : — See Accounts, 5.
ASSESSMENT LAW: —
1. Bill introduced, 55. Second reading and referred, 94. Reported, 114. Com-
mitted, 152, 178. Third reading, 181. R. A. 189. (40 Vic. c. 27.)
2. Bill introduced, 79. Second reading and referred, 95. Reported, 114. Com-
mitted, 137. Third reading, 138. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 28.)
3. Petitions presented, 53, 93, 101, 113.
ASSIZES AND SUPREME COURTS : — See Accounts, 6.
ASYLUMS :— See Accounts, 7, 8, 9. Orders, Sessional, 7.
JjECK,
REVEREND J. W. R. :— See Orders, Sessional, 7.
BELLEVILLE, CITY OF: — Petition presented, 28. Reported, 39. Bill introduced, 47.
Reported, 99. Second reading, 105. Committed, 128. Third reading, 147. R. A.,
189. (40 Vic. c. 33.)
VI
INDEX. 1877.
BELLEVILLE AND NORTH HASTINGS RAILWAY :— See Accounts, 42.
BILLS :
1. STANDING COMMITTEE on Private Bills : — To be appointed, 4. Appointed, 13. Re-
port, 46, 79, 85, 89, 96, 99, 102, 104, 109, 110.
2. Bills reported preamble not proved, 89, &c.
3. Time for receiving Petitions and reporting on Private Bills extended, 28, 102.
4. Fees remitted on certain Bills, 8$, &c.
5. See Estate Sills.
BIRDS: — Bill introduced, 110. Order for second reading discharged, 183.
BIRTHS, MARRIAGES, AND DEATHS : — See Accounts, 10.
BONDS AND SECURITIES OF OFFICE: — See Accounts, 11.
BOOK DEPOSITORY :— See Education, 2, 4.
BOTHWELL LAND AND PETROLEUM COMPANY : — Petition presented, 27. Reported,
54. Bill introduced, 55. Reported, 104. Second reading, 115. Committed, 126.
Third reading, 128. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 69.)
BRANTFORD, CITY OF :— Petition presented, 13. Reported, 39. Bill introduced and
referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills, 41, Reported, 91. Referred to Com-
mittee on Private Bills, 92. Reported, 99. Second reading, 105. Committed, 138.
Third reading, 147. R. A. 189. (40 V. c. 34.)
BUILDING SOCIETIES : — Bill introduced, 94. Second reading, 178. Committed, 169.
Third reading, 188. R. A, 189. (40 Vic. c. 22.)
BUTTER AND CHEESE MANUFACTURING COMPANIES :— Bill introduced, 30. Second read-
ing and referred, 91. Reported, 137. Order for consideration in Committee dis-
charged, 153.
\J ALEDON, TOWNSHIP OF :— Petition presented, 33. Reported, 45. Bill intro-
duced, 47. Fees remitted, 99.
CANADA COMPANY : — Petition presented, 28. Reported, 39. Bill introduced, 41. Re-
ported, 79. Second reading, 87. Committed, 100. Third reading, 103. R. A. 189.
(40 Vic. c. 47.)
CENTENNIAL EXHIBITION AT PHILADELPHIA : — See Accounts, 3, 20.
CENTRAL PRISON : — Motion for Select Committee, 106. See Accounts, 12, 13.
CHRISTIAN CHURCH, ONTARIO : — Petition presented, 13. Reported, 39. Bill introduced,
40. Reported, 79. Fees remitted, 79. Second reading, 100. Committed, 105. Third
reading, 111. R.A., 189. (40 V. c. 60.)
CIVIL SERVICE, Appointments to : — See Addresses, 1.
1877. INDEX. vii
COLLINGWOOD, TOWN OF : — Petition presented, 32. Reported, 45. Bill introduced, 48.
Reported preamble not proved, 89. Fees remitted, 89.
COBOURG, PETERBOROUGH and MARMORA RAILWAY AND MINING COMPANY :— Petition
presented, 16. Reported, 45. Bill introduced, 47. Reported, 99. Second reading,
105. Committed, 115. Third reading, 127. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 81.)
COBOURG, TOWN OF : — Petition presented, 32. Reported, 63. Bill introduced, 64. Re-
ported, 85. Referred back to Committee, 102. Reported, 110. Second reading, 116.
Committed, 128. Third reading, 147. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 44.)
COLONIZATION ROADS :— See Supply, 3.
COMMITTEES :
1. Six Standing Committees to be appointed, 4. Committee of Selection appointed,
7. Report, 13. Report concurred in, 14.
2. See Orders, Standing; Railways; Bills, Private; Privileges; Public Accounts; Printing.
CONSTABLES: — Bill introduced, 103. Second reading, 112. Committed, 124. Third
reading, 127. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 20.)
CREDIT VALLEY RAILWAY COMPANY : —
1. Petitions presented, 16, 137, 144. Reported, 46. Bill introduced, 47. Reported,
85. Second reading, 105. Committed, 111, 126. Third reading, 128. R. A.,
189. (40 V. c. 77.)
2. Order in Council ratified, 164. See Accounts, 42.
CROWN LANDS : — See Accounts, 14.
:— Bill introduced, 25. Second reading and referred, 65. Reported,
102. Committed, 137. Third reading, 138. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 23.)
DEPOSITORY : — See Education, 2, 4.
DIVISION COURTS :— See Accounts, 15, 16. Supply, 3.
DRAINAGE FUND :— Petitions presented, 28, 32, 44, 63, 93, 99, 104, 117, 123, 127.
DUNDAS, TOWN OF :— Petition presented, 24. Reported, 39. Bill introduced, 40. Re-
ported, 89. Second reading, 94. Committed, 100. Third reading, 103. R. A., 189.
(40 Vic. c. 45.)
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DUCATION :
1. Bill introduced respecting the Education Department, Public and High Schools,
and the University of Toronto, 79. Second reading, 112. Committed, 129. 136, 152,
156. Third reading, 180. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 16.)
2. Motion for a Return respecting the Book Depository, withdrawn, 35.
3. Petitions presented respecting the Depository, 28, 33, 44, 52, 77, 84, 102.
4. See Accounts, 17-20.
viii INDEX. 1877.
ELECTIONS :
1. Bill introduced to prevent betting on Elections, 30. Order for second reading
negatived, 87.
2. Bill introduced to establish manhood suffrage, 48. Order for second reading dis-
charged, 182.
3. Bill introduced to amend the Election Law, 155. Second reading, 182. Com-
mitted, and third reading, 186. E. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 10.)
4. Resolution that if anything comes in question touching the election of a member,
he shall withdraw, 4.
5. Report from the Judges selected to try Election Petitions in the following case,
Prince Edward, 3.
6. See Accounts, 21
ERIE AND HURON RAILWAY : — See Accounts, 42.
ESCHEATS AND FORFEITURES : — Bill introduced, 14. Second reading, 43. Committed,
56, 65. Third reading, 79. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 3.) See Accounts, 22.
ESSEX, MAGISTRATES IN : — See Accounts, 23.
ESTIMATES :— See Accounts, 24. Supply, 2.
ESTATE BILLS :— Bills referred to the Judges, 41, 48, 56. Reported, 74, 91.
EXEMPTIONS FROM ASSESSMENT : —
1. Petitions presented, 13, 16, 21, 24, 28, 33, 44, 53, 77, 88, 93, 99, 101, 109, 147.
2. Motion for amendment to the Address, with reference to Exemptions, negatived, 8.
T ARMERS' SONS -.—Bill introduced, 97. Second reading, 131. Committed, 139. Third
reading, 142. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 9.)
FELONIES AND MISDEMEANOURS :— See Accounts, 25.
FONT HILL SCHOOL : — See Accounts, 19.
FORT ERIE, VILLAGE OF:— Petition presented, 52. Reported, 63. Bill introduced, 64.
Reported preamble not proven, 102. Fees remitted, 102.
FREE GRANTS :
1. Bill introduced, 25. Order for second reading discharged, 86.
2. Bill introduced, 97. Second reading, 112. Committed, 122, 124. Third reading,
127. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 15.)
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VTAME : — Bill introduced, 110. Order for Second reading discharged, 182,
GOVERNMENT HOUSE :— See Supply* 3]
1877. INDEX. ix
GREY, COUNTY OF : — Petitions presented, 33, 52, 93. Reported, 39. Bill introduced,
40 Reported preamble not proven, 96. Fees remitted, 97. Motion to refer back to
Committee; negatived, 97.
GUELPH STREET RAILWAY COMPANY :— Petitions presented, 44, 123. Reported, 63. Bill
introduced, 64. Reported, 102. Second reading, 106. Committed, 126. Third
reading, 127. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 83.)
IJAMILTON, CITY OF :— Petition presented, 157. Bill introduced, 152. Second
reading, 155. Committed, and third reading, 165. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 38.)
HAMILTON, ROMAN CATHOLIC DIOCESE or:— Petition presented, 16. Reported, 24.
Bill introduced, 25. Reported, 46. Fees remitted, 46. Second reading, 66. Com-
mitted, 128. Third reading, 130. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 58.)
HAMILTON AND NORTH-WESTERN RAILWAY COMPANY : — Petitions presented, 33, 77.
Reported, 55. Bill introduced, 64. Reported, 102. Second reading, 1 Oft. Committed,
126. Third reading, 127. R. A., 189. (40 V., c. 76.) See Accounts, 42.
HAWKESBURY EAST, TOWNSHIP OF :— Petition presented, 13, 21, 24. Reported, 39. Bill
introduced, 47. Reported preamble not proven, 99. Fees remitted, 99.
HAYS, G. 0. :— See Orders, Sessional, 7.
HIGH SCHOOLS:— See Accounts, 19.
HOME SAVINGS AND LOAN COMPANY : — Petition presented, 21. Reported, 25. Bill
introduced, 25. Reported. 46. Order for second reading discharged, 150. Fees re-
mitted, 150.
HOUSE, THE :
L Votes and Proceedings to be printed, 4.
2. To have two sittings each day, 165.
3. Adjourns on account of the death of a member, 30, 78.
4. Adjourns for want of a quorum, 111.
HURON, DIOCESE OF:— Petition presented, 52. Reported, 63. Bill introduced, 64.
Reported by Commissioners of Estate Bills, 91. Referred to Committee on Private
Bills, 93. Reported, 104. Fees remitted, 104. Second reading 115. Committed,
126. Third reading, 127. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 56.)
HURON AND QUEBEC RAILWAY COMPANY : — Petition presented, 13. Reported, 39.
Bill introduced, 41. Reported, 89. Second reading, 94. Committed, 111. Third
reading, 111. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 80.) See Accounts, 42.
1DSARDI, W. E:— Petition presented, 13. Reported, 40. Bill introduced, 40. Re-
ported, 79. Second reading, 87. Committed, 100. Third reading, 103. R. A., 189.
(40 Vic. c. 87.)
IMMIGRATION : — Se3 Accountt, 26,
INDEX. 1877.
INDUSTRIAL EXHIBITION COMPANY : — Petition presented, 32. Reported, 45. Bill intro-
duced 64. Reported, 109. Second reading, 115. Committed, 128. Third reading,
130. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 68.)
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INSURANCE, LIFE : — Motion for a Committee ; withdrawn, 36.
INTESTATES: — Bill introduced, 117. Second reading, 139. Committed, 147. Ttiird
reading, 148. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 4.)
IBOQUOIS, ST. JOHN'S CHURCH AT : — Petition presented, 16. Reported, 25. Bill intro-
duced, 41. Reported, 85. Fees remitted, 85. Second reading, 100. Committed, 105.
Third reading, 110. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 50.)
J URORS AND JURIES :— Bill introduced, 56. Order for second reading discharged,
182. See Accounts, 27. ..
JUSTICES OF THE PEACE : — Bill introduced, 4.
AINGSTON AND PEMBROKE RAILWAY :— See Accounts, 42.
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JAKE SIMCOE JUNCTION RAILWAY :— See Accounts, 42.
LAW, AMENDMENTS TO : — Bill introduced. 117. Second reading and referred to a Select
Committee, 139. Reported, 165. Committed, 184. Third reading, 185. R. A., 189.
(40 Vic. c. 8.)
LEAMINGTON, COMBER AND LAKE ST. CLAIR RAILWAY COMPANY : — Petition presented,
32. Reported, 45. Bill introduced, 47. Reported, 85. Second reading, 100. Committed,
104, 110, 115. Third reading, 124. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 72.)
LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY : — Bill introduced, 127. Second reading, 169. Committed, 178.
Third reading, 181. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c, 11.)
LIBRARY :
1. Report from Librarian, 4. See Accounts, 28.
2. Committee appointed, 8.
LIEUTENANT-GO YERNOE :
1. His Speech at the opening of the Session, 1. Day appointed for the consideration of
the Speech, 4. Motion for an Address to thank H. E., 5. Motion for amendment
negatived, 8. Address agreed to, 10. Answer, 21. See Addresses, 3.
2. Assents to Bills, 189.
3. His Speech at the close of the Session, 192.
4. Prorogues Parliament, 192.
MESSAGES FROM His EXCELLENCY : —
1. Thanking the House for Address at the opening of the Session, 21.
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2. Transmitting Estimates for year ending 31st December, 1877, 17, 35, 146, 152. Re-
ferred to Committee of Supply, 17, 35, 146, 152.
3. Approving of certain measures involving an expenditure of Public money, 158, &c.
LINE FENCES :— Bill introduced, 94. Second reading, 113. Committed, 152. Third
reading, 155. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 29.)
LONDON, HURON, AND BRUCE RAILWAY :— See Accounts, 42.
LONDON LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY : — See Accounts, 29.
LONDON REAL ESTATE ASSOCIATION : — Petition presented, 28. Reported, 45. Bill intro-
duced, 48. Reported preamble not proven, 110. Fees remitted, 110.
L'ORIGNAL AND CALEDONIA RAILWAY :— See Accounts, 42.
MASTER AND SERVANT :— Bill introduced, 142. Order lor second reading dis-
charged, 170.
MATILDA, TOWNSHIP OF :— Petition presented, 21. Reported, 25. Bill introduced, 41.
Reported, 99. Second reading, 105. Committed, 115. Third reading, 122. R.A., 189.
(40 Vic. c. 48.)
MAYORS, ELECTION OF : — Petitions presented, 16, 33.
MECHANICS' LIEN : — Bill introduced, 94. Order for second reading discharged, 188.
MEDICAL ACT : —
1. Bill introduced, 94. Order for second reading discharged, 169.
2. Petitions presented, 16, 24, 28, 32, 53, 93, 101, 109.
MEMBERS : —
1. Resolutions as to questions touching elections of, bribery by, and offering money to
Members, 4.
2. Take the oaths and their seats, 4, 137.
3. Resign, 4.
4. New Writ in consequence of death of a Member, 52.
5. Sessional Allowance granted to Widow of a Member, 178. To a Member absent
on account of illness, 184.
MERCER, ANDREW : — See Accounts, 30.
METHODIST EPISCOPAL CHURCH : — Petition presented, 28. Reported, 39. Bill intro-
duced, 41. Reported, 79. Fees remitted, 79. Second reading, 105. Committed, 111.
Third reading, 130. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 61.)
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METROPOLITAN STREET RAILWAY COMPANY : — Petitions presented, 32, 77. Reported, 40.
Bill introduced, 43. Reported, 99. Second reading, 105. Committed, 128. Third
reading, 142. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 84.)
MIDLAND RAILWAY COMPANY :— Fees remitted, 102. See Accounts, 42.
MONTREAL AND CITY OF OTTAWA RAILWAY :— Order in Council ratified, 164 See
Accounts, 42.
MORTGAGES :
1. Bill introduced respecting mortgages in Mutkoka and Parry Sound, 35. Second read-
ing, and referred, 87.
2. Bill introduced respecting mortgages and sales of personal property, 94. Second
reading, 112. Committed, 122. Third reading, 124. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 21.)
MUNICIPAL LAW :
1. Bill introduced, 56. Second reading and referred, 87.
2. Bill introduced, 117. Order for second reading discharged, 170.
3. Bill introduced, 117. Second reading and referred, 169. Reported, 170. Com-
mitted, and third reading, 188. R.A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 26.)
4. Bill introduced, 138. Order for second reading discharged, 170.
5. Bill introduced, 144. Second reading, 169. Committed, arid third reading, 188.
E.A., 188. (40 Vic. c. 25.)
6. Bill introduced to extend the Municipal Law to Townships in Nipissing, 154. Second
reading, 182. Committed, and third reading, 185. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 30.)
7. Petitions presented, 52, 84, 93, 98, 104, 109, 113, 117, 184.
MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS : — See Accounts, 31.
MUNICIPAL LOAN FUND :
1. Bill introduced respecting payments to unorganized districts, 35. Second reading,
66. Committed, 79. Third reading, 86, R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 13.)
2. See Accounts, 32. Orders, Sessional, 7.
MUNICIPAL FRANCHISE :
1. Bill introduced, 25. Order for second reading discharged, 153.
2. Bill introduced to enable women to vote, 47. Second reading postponed for three
months, 87.
MUNICIPAL STATISTICS : — See Accounts, 33.
MUSKOKA, PARRY SOUND. THUNDER BAY, AND HALIBURTON : — Bill introduced, 17.
Second reading, 98. Committed. 101, 182. Third reading, 184. R. A., 189. (40 Vic.
c. 24.)
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MCALLISTER^ BERNARD : — Petition presented, 28. Reported, 45. Bill introduced and
referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills, 47. Reported against, 74. Fees re-
mitted, 85.
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<3 EWMARKET, ST. PAUL'S CHURCH AT :— Petition presented, 32. Reported, 45.
Bill introduced and referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills, 48. Reported, 74.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills, 77. Reported, 110. Fees remitted, 110.
Second reading, 116. Committed, 126. Third reading, 128. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 52.)
NIAGARA AND ST. CATHARINES' RAILWAY AND STEAMBOAT COMPANY :— Petition pre-
sented, 32. Reported, 40. Bill introduced, 55. Reported, 89. Second reading, 101.
Committed, 105. Third reading, 111. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 73.)
NIAGARA, DIOCESE OP: — Petitions presented, 32, 123. Reported, 39. Bill introduced
and referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills, 41. Reported, 74. Referred to
Committee on Private Bills, 77. Reported, 104. Fees remitted, 104. Second reading,
129. Committed, 138. Third reading, 147. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 55.)
NIAGARA, ST. MARK'S CHURCH AT : — Petition presented, 28. Reported, 39. Bill intro-
duced and referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills, 41. Reported, 74. Referred
to the Committee on Private Bills, 77. Reported, 99. Fees remitted, 99. Second
reading, 105. Committed, 126. Third reading, 127. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 49.)
NORFOLK RAILWAY : — See Accounts, 42.
NORTH SIMCOE RAILWAY COMPANY : — Petition presented, 16. Reported, 40. Bill in-
troduced, 47. Reported, 79. Second reading, 87. Committed, 100. Third reading,
110. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 75.) See Accounts.
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'CARROLL, JOHN : — Motion for a Select Committee, negatived, 65.
ONTARIO CENTRAL RAILWAY : — Fees remitted, 99.
ONTARIO MUTUAL LIFE ASSURANCE COMPANY : — See Accounts, 34.
ORANGE ASSOCIATION :— Petitions presented, 21, 24, 29, 35, 45, 54, 78, 85, 94, 102, 109,
113, 158. Reported, 39. Bill introduced, 40. Reported preamble not proved, 89-
Fees remitted, 89. Motion to refer Bill back to Committee, negatived, 116.
ORILLIA ASYLUM :--See Orders, Sessional, 7.
ORDERS, SESSIONAL :
1. That the Votes and Proceedings be printed, 4.
2. As to questions touching elections of, bribery by, and offering money to, Members, 4.
3. That the time be extended for Reports or Private Bills, 102.
4. Relating to sittings of the House, 121.
5. Remitting fees on certain Private Bills, 102, &c.
6. Government Orders to have precedence on certain days, 121,
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7. Orders for the production of papers relating to : —
ASYLUM AT ORILLIA : — Appointment of Superintendent, 25.
BECK, REV. J. W. R: — Correspondence relating to a lot at Haldimand, 183.
HAYS, GEORGE 0. : — Correspondence relating to discovery of gold in Marmora) 169.
MUNICIPAL LOAN FUND: — Amount of instalment due by municipalities, 183.
PARLIAMENT BUILDINGS : — Statements respecting cost, &c., of new Parliament
buildings, 106.
QUEEN'S BENCH : — Statement of moneys unclaimed in court of Queen's Bench, Com-
mon Pleas, Chancery, and Surrogate Courts, 183.
RAILWAY ACCIDENTS :— Return of accidents on the railways in 1874-5-6, 168.
TORONTO GENERAL HOSPITAL:— Return of income, &c., 168.
TORONTO UNIVERSITY :— Return of colleges affiliated, &c., 169.
ORDERS, STANDING:
1. Committee ' on Standing Orders to be appointed, 4. Appointed, 14. Report on
various petitions, 24, 39, 45, 56, 63.
2. Petition referred back to Committee, 55. Report, 63.
ORILLIA ASYLUM : — See Orders, /Sessional, 7.
OKILLIA, TOWN OF:— Petitions presented, 20, 113, 123, 127. Reported, 25. Bill intro-
duced, 29. Reported, 46. Second reading, 129. Committed, 138. Third reading, 142.
R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 35.)
ORILLIA, PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH AT : — Petition presented, 24. Reported, 39. Bill intro-
duced and referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills, 56. Reported, 74. Referred
to Private Bills Committee, 77, Reported, 85. Fees remitted, 85. Second reading 100.
Committed, 105. Third reading, 121. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 57.)
OTTAWA, CITY OF :
1. Petition presented relative to the names of certain streets, 28. Reported, 63. Bill
introduced, 64. Reported, 96. Fees remitted, 97.
2. Petition presented respecting Water Works, 28. Reported, 63. Bill introduced, 64.
Reported, 85. Second reading, 100. Committed, 105. Third reading 110. R. A.,
189. (40 Vic. c. 37.)
3. Petition presented respecting the Church of St. Alban, 13. Reported, 24. Bill
introduced, 25. Reported, 46. Fees remitted, 46. Second reading, 66. Com-
mitted, 86. Third reading, 89. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 54.)
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4. L'INSTITUT CANADIEN FRANCAIS : — See Accounts, 35.
ARLIAMENT BUILDINGS :— See Orders, Sessional, 7.
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PEEL GENERAL MANUFACTURING COMPANY: — Petition presented, 21. Reported, 55. Bill
introduced, 56. Reported, 85. Second reading 94. Committed, 100. Third reading,
103. Fees remitted, 168. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 71.)
PEOPLE'S GAS COMPANY :— Petition presented, 52, 101, 104, 113, 114, 117. Reported, 63.
Bill introduced, 64. Reported, 97. Second reading, 105. Committed, 128, 147, 155.
Third reading, 158. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 67.)
PETERBOROUGH PROTESTANT TOWN TRUST : — Petition presented, 13. Reported, 39. Bill
introduced, 41. Reported, 85. Second reading, 94. Committed, 111. Third reading,
111. R.A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 59.)
PHARMACY ACT : — Bill introduced, 94. Order for second reading discharged, 170.
PHYSIC : — Bill introduced, 127. Order for second reading discharged, 170.
PICKERING HARBOUR : — Petition presented, 32. Reported, 55. Bill introduced, 85. Re-
ported, 99. Second reading, 105. Committed, 115. Third reading, 122. R. A., 189.
(40 Vic. c. 70.)
PINE TIMBER, DUES ON : — Order in Council reducing dues approved of, 117.
POLICE : — Bill introduced, 136. Second reading, 147, Order for consideration in Com-
mittee discharged, 188. See Accounts, 36.
PORT DOVER AND LAKE HURON RAILWAY COMPANY: — Petition presented, 13. Reported,
25. Bill introduced, 30. Reported, 99. Second reading 105. Committed, 114. Third
reading, 121. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 74.)
PORT ELGIN, VILLAGE OF: — Petition presented, 32. Reported, 45. Bill introduced and
referred to Commissioners of Estate Bills, 47. Reported, 74. Referred to Committee
on Private Bills, 77. Reported, 99. Second reading, 105. Committed, 115. Third
reading, 124. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 36.)
PORT HOPE HARBOUR: — Petitions presented, 13,52. Reported, 39. Bill introduced,
41. Reported, 85. Second reading, 94. Committed, 100. Third reading, 103. R.
A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 43.)
PRACTICAL SCIENCE, SCHOOL OF : — Resolution respecting the School agreed to in Com-
mittee, 118, 130. See Accounts, 37. 8 apply, 3, 4.
PRINCE ARTHUR'S LANDING AND KAMANISTIQUIA RAILWAY : — See Accounts, 42.
PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY :— See Elections, 5.
PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY RAILWAY : — Order in Council ratified, 164. See Accounts, 42.
PKINTTHTG:
1. Committee on Printing to be appointed, 4. Appointed, 14. Report, 46, 95, 129, 154,
188.
2. Recommend that certain documents be printed, 46. That certain documents be no
printed, 46. Issue of Journals, &c., to County officials, 47.
3. See Accounts, 38.
PRIVILEGES AND ELECTIONS :— Standing Committee to be appointed, 4. Appointed, 1£.
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PUBLIC ACCOUNTS: — Standing Committee to be appointed, 4. Appointed, 14. Report,
96, 123, 144. See Accounts, 39. (Appendix, No. 1.)
PUBLIC WORKS : — See Accounts, 40.
(c^UEEN'S BENCH:— See Orders, Sessional, 1.
RAILWAYS :
1. Committee on Railways to be appointed, 4. Appointed, 14. Report, 79, 85, 89, 99,
102, 1C4.
2. Resolutions relating to Railway Aid and Railway Land Subsidy Fund, 158, 165,
171, 173. Bill introduced, 174. Second reading ; Committed, and third reading.
187. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 14.)
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3. Orders in Council granting aid to certain Railways ratified, 164.
4. Select Committee appointed respecting Brakesmen on Railways, 48.
5. See Accounts, 41, 42. Orders, Sessional, 7.
RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS: — Bill introduced, 117. Order for second reading discharged.
170.
REPEAL OF ACTS : — Bill introduced, 14. Second reading, 43. Committed, 66, 112.
Third reading, 121. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 2.)
REGISTRAR-GENERAL:— See Accounts, 10.
REGISTRARS, FEES OF : — See Accounts, 43.
ROCKWOOD ASYLUM : — Resolution agreed to in Committee, 150, 174. See Accounts, 9.
^T. CATHARINES STREET RAILWAY COMPANY :— Petition presented, 28 Re-
ported, 63. Bill introduced, 78. Reported, 104. Second reading, 115. Committed,
126. Third reading, 128. R. A., 189. (40 V. c. 86.)
SAULT STE. MARIE : — Petition presented, 44, 93. Reported, 55. Bill introduced, 55.
Reported, 104; Fees remitted, 104. Second reading, 115. Committed, 126. Third
reading, 128. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 32.)
SCHOOL ACT :— Petitions presented, 23, 32, 44, 53, 63, 77, 84, 88, 98, 101. 103, 109,
123, 127, 184.
SCHOOL TRUSTEES, ELECTION OF : — Bill introduced, 56. Order for second reading dis-
charged, 182.
SCOTT, THOMAS : — See Accounts, 44.
SCOTT, W. A. : — See Addresses, 2.
SHERIFFS' FEES :— Select Committee appointed, 100.
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SHTJNIAH, MUNICIPALITY OF -.—Petition presented, 33, 93, 98, 101. Reported, 45. Bill
introduced, 48. Reported, 109. Second reading, 115. Committed, 126. Third read-
ing, 128. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 31.)
SIMCOE, BY-LAW OF THE COUNTY OF : — Petition presented, 24. Reported, 45. Bill
introduced, 48. Reported, 85. Second reading, 100. Committed, 105. Third read-
ing, 110. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 41.)
SPEAKRB :-
1. His decisions on questions of form and order, 141, 142, 149, 160, 174.
SPEECH FROM THE THRONE : — See Lieutenant-Governor. Addresses, 3.
SPIRITUOUS LIQOURS
1. Bill introduced, 35. Second reading, 98. Committed, 101, 103, 126, 129. Third
reading, 144. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 18.)
2. Petitions presented, 99, 109, 123, 137, 157.
3. See Accounts, 45.
STANDARD FIRE INSURANCE COMPANY : — Petition presented, 28. Reported, 39. Bill intro-
duced, 41. Reported, 89. Second reading, 100. Committed, 105. Third reading, 110.
R.A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 66.)
STATUTES OF ONTARIO :
1. Bill introduced respecting the Revised Statutes, 14. Second reading, and referred
to Select Committee, 139. Reported, 165. Committed, and read the third time,
184. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 6.)
2. Bill introduced to provide for certain amendments to the Statutes, 117. Second
reading, and referred to a Select Committee, 139. Reported, 165. Committed, and
read the third time, 184. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 7.)
3. Bill introduced to provide for certain amendments to the Law, 117. Second reading
and referred to a Select Committee, 139. Reported, 165. Committed, 184.
Third reading, 185. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 8.)
4. Bill introduced to amend and repeal certain Acts of last Session, 14. Second read-
ing, 43. Committed, 66, 112. Third reading, 121. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 2.)
5. Bill introduced to make certain verbal amendments to the Acts of the present Ses-
sion, 179. Second reading; Committed, and third reading, 187. R. A., 189.
(40 Vic. c. 88.)
6. See Accounts, 46, 47.
STRATFORD AND HURON RAILWAY COMPANY: — Petitions presented, 32, 52, 127, 157.
Reported, 39. Bill introduced, 41. Reported, 99. Second reading, 105. Com-
mitted, 139. Third reading, 152. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 79.) See Accounts, 42.
SUNDAY SCHOOLS : — See Accounts, 48.
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SUPERIOR AND COUNTY COURTS : — Motion for a return of suits entered, &c., withdrawn,
21.
SUPPLY :
1. Resolution that the House will, on a subsequent day, resolve itself into a Committee
of Supply, and of Ways and Means. 11.
2. Estimates for the year 1877 referred to the Committee, 17, 35, 146, 152. House
goes into Committee, 17,42, 49, 56, 66, 80, 89, 122, 124, 166. Resolutions re-
ported, 18, 131, 175. Agreed to, 18, 135, 140, 156, 160.
3. Amendments to the following items negatived, Division Court Inspector, 140. Un-
foreseen and unprovided, 141. School of Practical Science, 156. Agricultural
Farm, 156, 176. Government House, 161. Colonization Roads, 161.
4. Resolution respecting School of Practical Science not agreed to, 160.
5. House resolves to go into Committee of Ways and Means, 11. House in Com-
mittee, 18, 178. Resolutions reported, 18, 178. Agreed to, 18, 178.
6. Bill of Supply introduced, 178. Second reading, 182. Third reading, 184. R. A.,
192. (40 Vic. c. 1.)
SUPREME AND EXCHEQUER COURTS OF CANADA :— Bill introduced, 16. Second reading,
43. Committed, 56. Third reading, 65. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 5.)
T
.1 EMPERANCE ACT :— Bill introduced, 154. Order for second reading discharged,
188.
TIMBER LICENSES AND LIMITS : — See Accounts, 49, 50. Addresses, 4.
TORONTO, CITY OF :
1. Petition presented for an Act to legalize a by-law, 32. Reported, 55. Bill intro-
duced, 55. Reported, 96. Second reading, 101. Committed, 105. Third reading,
110. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 40.)
2. Petition presented respecting the City of Toronto and the Toronto Water Works,
33. Reported, 45. Bill introduced, 47. Reported, 110. Second reading, 115.
Committed, 128, 148. Third reading, 155. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 39.)
TORONTO GENERAL HOSPITAL : — See Orders, Sessional, 7.
TORONTO, GREY AND BRUCE RAILWAY COMPANY : — Petition presented, 20. Reported,
25. Bill introduced, 48. Reported, 85. Second reading, 94. Committed, 100. Third
reading, 110. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 78.) See Accounts, 42.
TORONTO, SYNOD OF:— Petition presented, 32. Reported, 63. Bill introduced, 64.
Reported preamble not proven, 110. Fees remitted, 110.
TORONTO, ST. PAUL'S CHURCH AT :— Petition presented, 13. Reported, 39. Bill intro-
duced, 40. Reported by the Commissioners of Estate Bills, 91. Referred to Committee
on Private Bills, 92. Reported, 104. Fees remitted, 104. • Second reading, 115.
Committed, 126. Third reading, 127. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 53.)
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TORONTO STREET RAILWAY COMPANY: — Petitions presented, 32, 93, 109. Reported rules
not complied with, 55. Referred back to Committee, 55. Reported, 63. Bill intro-
duced, 64. Reported, 104. Second reading, 115. Committed, 149, 155, 162, 165,
171. Third reading, 179. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 85.)
TORONTO HOUSE BUILDING ASSOCIATION :— Petition presented, 23. Reported, 45. Bill
introduced, 47. Fees remitted, 85. See Accounts, 51.
TORONTO UNIVERSITY : — See Accounts, 52, 53. Orders, Sessional, 7.
TRENT RIVER : — See Accounts, 54.
TRINITY MEDICAL SCHOOL :— Petitions presented, 13, 16, 21, 24, 28, 33, 44, 53, 63, 77.
Reported, 25. Bill introduced, 40. Reported, 89. Second reading, 105. Committed,
111,115. Third reading, 127. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 65.)
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NIVERSIY COLLEGE :— See Account*, 55.
UPPER CANADA BIBLE SOCIETY :— Petition presented, 32. Reported, 63. Bill intro-
duced, 64. Reported, 85. Fees remitted, 85. Second reading, 94. Committed, 100.
Third reading, 103. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 62.)
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OTERS' LISTS:—
1. Bill introduced to amend the law, 16. Second reading, 90.
2. Bill introduced to extend the Voters' Lists to Municipal Elections, 30. Second
reading, 139. Committed, 147. Third reading, 187. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 12.)
WAYS AND MEANS, COMMITTEE OF :— See Supply, 5.
WELLINGTON, GREY, AND BRUCE RAILWAY : — See Accounts, 42.
WHITBY AND PORT PERRY EXTENSION RAILWAY COMPANY :— Petition presented, 32.
Reported, 39. Bill introduced, 40. Reported, 89. Second reading, 100. Committed,
126. Third reading, 127. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 82.) See Accounts, 42.
WILSON, JUDGE : — House to go into Committee to consider a Resolution, 150. Agreed
to, 164. See Accounts, 56.
WINDSOR, TOWN OF :— Petition presented, 32. Reported, 45. Bill introduced, 48.
Reported, 85. Second reading, 100. Committed, 105. Third reading, 110. R. A.,
189. (40 Vic. c. 42.)
WOODSTOCK CANADIAN LITERARY INSTITUTE :— Petition presented, 32. Reported, 39.
Bill introduced, 55. Reported, 85. Second reading, 94. Committed, 100 Third
reading, 103. Fees remitted, 124. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 63.)
lORK, COUNTY COURT OF :— Bill introduced, 97. Second reading 112 Com-
mitted, 122. Third reading, 131. R. A., 189. (40 Vic. c. 19.)
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