JOURNALS
OF THE
LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY
OF THE
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO
From JANUARY 25th, 1910, to MARCH 19th, 1910
(BOTH DAYS INCLUSIVE).
IN THE TENTH YEAR OF THE REIGN OF OUR SOVEREIGN LORD
KING EDWARD VII.
BEING THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH LEGISLATURE OF ONTARIO,
SESSION 1920.
PRINTED BY ORDER OF THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY.
Vol. XLIV.
TORONTO :
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1910
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INDEX
TO THE
FORTY-FOURTH VOLUME
10 EDWARD VII., 1910
BY FIEE:— See Fire.
ACCOUNTS PUBLIC: — See Public Accounts.
ACTIONS, LIMITATION OF :
Bill (No. 135), introduced respecting the, 30. Second reading, 43.
House goes into Committee on, 54. Third reading, 207. E.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 34.)
ADDEESS : — See Lieutenant-Governor.
ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE*
Bill (No. 115), introduced respecting the expenses of, 9. Second reading,
15. House goes into Committee on, 26, 216, 225. Third reading,
253. E.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 41.)
AGENTS: — See Goods.
AGRICULTURAL ASSOCIATIONS :
Bill (No. 144), introduced respecting, 46. Second reading, 53. House
goes into Committee on, 68. Third reading, 165. E.A., 170.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 18.)
AGRICULTURAL COLLEGE:
Eeport presented, 211. (Sessional Papers No. 29.) Printed,
AGRICULTURAL AND EXPERIMENTAL UNION :
Eeport presented, 211. (Sessional Papers No. 81.) Printed.
INDEX
AGRICULTURAL SOCIETIES:
1. Bill (No. 105), introduced respecting, 37. Second reading, 44. House
goes inlto Committee on, 47. Third reading, 164. RA., 170,
(10 Ed. VII. c. 19.)
i2. Keport presented, 54. (Sessional Papers No. 43.) Printed.
AGRICULTURE AND COLONIZATION :
Committee appointed, 41. No report.
AGRICULTURE, DEPARTMENT OF:
1. Bill (No. 159), introduced respecting, 52. Second reading, 54. House
goes into Committee on, 67. Third reading, 165. E.A., 170.
(10 Ed. VII. c. ,17.)
2. Report presented, 228. (Sessional Papers No. 28.) Printed.
ALGONQUIN NATIONAL PARK:
Bill (No. 151), introduced to establish, 51. Second reading, 54. House
goes into Committee on, 67. Third reading, 221. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 17.)
ALEXANDRIA, TOWN OF:
Petition for Act to confirm By-law No. 124, guaranteeing Bonds of Glen-
garry Match Company, 95. Not proceeded ivith.
ALIENS :
Bill (No. 123), introduced, respecting the rights of, relative to Real
Property, 10. Second reading, 16. House goes into Committee on,
25. Third reading, 153. R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 49.)
APPEALS TO His MAJESTY:
Bill (No. 109), introduced respecting, in His Privyi Council, 8. Second
reading, 15. House goes into Committee on, 26. Third reading, 153.
R.A., 170. (10 Ed.i VII., c. 25.)
ARCHIVES :
Report presented, 194. (Sessional Papers No. 51.} Printed.
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ART COMMITTEE :
Appointed, 31. No report.
ARTESIAN WATER COMPANY, LIMITED :
Petition for Act of incorporation, 71. Reported, 117. Bill (No. 48j,
introduced and referred, 122. Reported withdrawn; fees remitted;
195.
ASSESSMENT LAW:
1. Bill (No. 167), introduced to amend, 89. Second reading, 184. House
goes into Committee on, 210, 256. Third reading, 256. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 88.)
2. Bill (No. 182), introduced to amend, 126. Order for second reading
discharged, 184.
3. Report of Special Committee appointed to sit during Recess, 18.
4. Petitions respecting, 30, 37, 46, 49, 53, 56, 62, 70, 72, 73, 77, 84, 95,
102, 117, 130, 137, 180, 205, 244.
ASSIGNMENTS AND PREFERENCES : — See Insolvent Persons.
AUDITOR :
Statement of presented, 27. (Sessional Papers No. 57.) Printed.
DABY, W. W.:
Question as to re-imbursing, for certain law costs, 123.
BAIL: — See Police Constables.
BARRIE, TOWN OF:
1. Petition for Act respecting, 28. Reported, 62. Bill (No. 6), intro-
duced and referred, 65. Reported, 151. Second reading, 200. House
goes into Committee on, 209. Third reading, 215. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 107.)
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2. Petition for Act respecting By-law No. 663, 28. Reported, 118. Bill
(No. 27), introduced and referred, 122. Reported, 152. Second
reading, 200. House goes into Committee on, 209. Third reading,
215. E.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 108.)
BEE-KEEPERS ASSOCIATION :
Report presented, 211. (Sessional Papers No. 37.) Printed.
BEES, SWARMS OF:
Bill (No. 124), introduced respecting the rights of property in, 37.
Second reading, 44. House goes into Committee on, 47. Third
reading, 154. E.A., 170. (10 Ed. Vll. c. 48.) See Statute Law
Amendment Act.
BERLIN, TOWN or:
Petition for Act to incorporate as a City, 28. Reported, 63. Bill
(No. 13), introduced and referred, 66. Reported withdrawn; fees
remitted, 152.
BILLS :
1. Referred to Commissioners of Estate Bills, 51, 121, 164. Reported,
58, 135-6, 178-10.
2. Referred to Railway and Municipal Board, 65. Reported, 129.
3. Reference to Committee on Private Bills discharged and Bill referred
to Commissioners/ of Estate Bills, 164.
4. Introduced nem. con., 172.
5. Restored to Order Paper, after having been discharged, 151.
6. Titles amended at third reading, 154.
7. Recommitted, 164.
BINDING: — See -Printing and Binding.
BIRTHS, MARRIAGES AND DEATHS:
Report presented, 101. (Sessional Papers No. 19.) Printed.
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BOUNDARY LINES:
Bill (No. 13), introduced respecting disputes concerning, 8. Second
reading, 15. House goes into Committee on, 24. Third reading, 215.
K.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 33.)
BRACEBRIDGE AND TRADING LAKE KAIL WAY: — See Statute Law Amendment
Act.
BRAMPTON, TOWN OF:
Petition for Act respecting, 53. Reported, 118. Bill (No. 39), intro-
duced and referred, 121. Reported, 213. Second reading, 227.
House goes into Committee on, 240. Third reading, 255. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 100.)
BRANTFORD, CITY OF :
Petition for Act respecting and the John H. Stratford Hospital, 55.
Reported, 117. Bill (No. 41), introduced and referred to the Com-
missioners of Estate Bills, 121. Reported and referred to the Com-
mittee on Private Bills, 135-6. Reported, 171. Second reading, 184.
House goes into Committee on, 202. Third reading, 207. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 110.)
BREAD :
1. Bill (No. 180), introduced respecting the manufacture and sale of,
126. Second reading and referred to the Municipal Committee, 139.
Reported, 181. House goes into Committee on, 218. Third reading,
221. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 95.)
2. Petition respecting, 89.
BRUCE MINES AND ALGOMA RAILWAY:
Petition for Act respecting, 28. Reported, 63. Bill (No. 13), intro-
duced and referred, 66. Reported, 85. Second reading, 91. House
goes into Committee on, 116. Third reading, 127. R.A., 170.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 139.)
BUDGET :
Delivered and Debate on adjourned, 52, 61, 71, 76, 83. Amendment
negatived, 85-8. See Supply.
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BUFFALO AND FORT ERIE FERRY KAIL WAY :
Petition for Act to consolidate and amend the Acts relating to, and
to change name, 61. Reported, 78. Bill (No. 52), introduced and
referred, 125. Reported; title amended, 196. Second reading, 208.
House goes into Committee. on, 226. Third reading, 229. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 138.)
BURLINGTON BEACH: — Question as to issue of Debentures for Water Works
purposes, etc., 217. See Statute Law Amendment Act.
QAMPBELLFORD, TOWN OF:
Petition for Act to confirm By-law No. 502, 28. Reported, 50. Bill
(No. 2), introduced and referred, 51. Reported, 125. Second read-
ing, 134. House goes into Committee on, 138. Third reading, 154.
R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 111.)
CANADA, SUPREME COURT OF:
Bill (No. 110), introduced respecting the and the Exchequer Court of
Canada, 8. Second reading, 15. House goes into Committee on, 24.
Third reading, 153. R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 25.)
CANADIAN NORTHERN RAILWAY :
Return ordered, shewing what steps taken towards building a section of
railway into the clay belt of Northern Ontario, 159. Presented, 212.
(Sessional Papers No. 78.) Not printed.
CEMETERY COMPANIES: — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
CHARITY AID ACT:
Bill (No. 187), introduced to amend, 132. Order for second reading
discharged, 143.
CHARTERED ACCOUNTANTS' ACT:
Bill (No. 174), introduced to revise and amend, 102. Second reading
and referred to the Legal Committee, 139. Reported, 229. House
oroes into Committee on; third reading, 245. R.A., 274. (10 Ed.
VII. c. 79.)
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CHILDREN, NEGLECTED:
Report presented, 194. (Sessional Papers No. 26.) Printed.
CLERGY RESERVES :
Bill (No. 157), introduced respecting and the Upper Canada Grammar
School lands, 23. Second reading, 35. House goes into Committee
on, 42. Third reading, 153. R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 10.)
COBALT LAKE MINING COMPANY, LIMITED:
Petition for Act respecting, 117. Reported, 130. Bill (No. 173), intro-
duced and referred, 132. Reported, 213. Second reading, 227.
House goes into Committee on, 244. Third reading, 244, R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 112.)
COBALT, TOWN OF:
1. Petition for Act to confirm an Agreement between the corporation
of and the Township of Coleman, 89. Reported, 119. Bill (No. 99) ;
introduced and referred, 121. Reported, 213. Second reading, 227.
House s:oes into Committee on, 240. Third reading, 254. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 112.)
2. Question re infraction of Liquor License Law; fines etc., 199,
COLLEGES OR UNIVERSITIES :
Question as to what sums of money given to, by Province, 217.
COLONIZATION, BUREAU OF:
Report presented, 228. (Sessional Papers No. 7-4.) Printed.
COLONIZATION ROADS:
Return ordered, shewing total amount paid for inspection and overseeing
work done on, 133. Presented, 212. (Sessional Papers No. 70.}
Not printed.
COMMISSIONERS OF POLICE : — See Police.
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COMMITTEES, STANDING:
1. Resolution re appointment of, 7, 31. Appointed, 39.
2. Members added to, 46, 71.
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CONSTABLES :
Bill (No. 119), introduced respecting, 9. Second reading, 15. House
goes into Committee on, 72, 223. Third reading, 223. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 39.)
CONVEYANCES, SHORT FORMS OF:
Bill (No. 127), introduced respecting, 10. Second reading, 16. House,
goes into Committee on, 25, 182. Third reading, 207. E.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 53.)
CORN GROWERS' ASSOCIATION:
Report presented, 211. (Sessional Papers No. 35.) Printed.
COULTER, LESTER MCDONNELL:
Petition for Act empowering him to practise Medicine in Ontario, 30.
Reported, 117. Bill (No. 26), introduced and referred, 121.
Reported, 152. Second reading, 166. House goes into Committee
on, 185. Third reading, 196. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 166.)
COUNCILS OF CONCILIATION: — See Industrial Disputes.
COUNTY COURTS AND DISTRICT COURTS:
Bill (No. 140), introduced respecting, 11. Second reading, 17. House
goes into Committee on, 159, 224, 233. Third reading, 254. R.A..
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 30.)
COUNTY JUDGES ACT: — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
CRIMINALS, CONFIRMED :
Bill (No. 184), introduced to prevent procreation of, Idiots, Imbeciles and
Rapists, 132. Order for second reading discharged, 146.
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GROWN WITNESSES:
Bill (No. 120), introduced to provide for payment of, 9. Second read-
ing, 15. House goes into Committee on, 24. Third reading, 153.
R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 42.)
CURRENT EXPENDITURES:
Motion proposed and negatived, re increase of, over current receipts, etc.,
85-8.
[DAIRYMEN'S ASSOCIATIONS:
Report presented, 211. (Sessional Papers, No. 38.) Printed.
DAIRY PRODUCTS : — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
DETECTIVES: — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
DITCHES AND WATERCOURSES ACT:
1. Bill (No. 165), introduced to amend, 89. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 123. Reported, 206. House goes into
Committee on, 218. Third reading, 221. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VIT
c. 100.)
2. Petition respecting, 53.
DIVISION COURTS:
1. Bill (No. 68), introduced to amend the Act, 59. Order for second
reading discharged, 124.
2. Bill (No. 96), introduced to amend, 74. Second reading and referred
to Committee of the Whole on Bill (No. 116), 123. See below.
3. Bill (No. 116), introduced respecting, 9. Second reading, 15. House
goes into Committee on, 224, 232. Third reading, 232. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 32.)
4. Report presented, 61. (Sessional Papers No. 5.) Printed.
DOMESTIC SERVANTS:
Question as to how many J. H. Rigby sent to Province, 155.
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DRAINAGE, MUNICIPAL :
1. Bill (No. 179), introduced, to revise and consolidate the law relating
to, 123. Second reading, 155. House goes into Committee on,
202, 209, 256. Third reading, 256. E.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 90.)
2. Eeturn ordered, shewing amount of Provincial money loaned to Muni-
cipalities for Drainage Purposes, names, rate of interest charged, etc.,
133. Presented, 212. (Sessional Papers No. 71.) Not printed.
DUNNVILLE, WELLANDPORT AND BEAMSVILLE ELECTRIC RAILWAY COMPANY I
Petition for Act respecting, 45. Eeported, 78. Bill (No. 30), intro-
duced and referred, 80. Eeported, 125. Second reading, 134.
House goes into Committee on, 146. Third reading, 154. E.A.,
170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 140.)
DURHAM, TOWN OF:
Petition for Act respecting, 73. Eeported, 130. Bill (No. 56), intro-
duced and referred, 131. Eeported, 181. Second reading, 200.
House goes into Committee on, 219. Third reading, 222. E.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 113.)
DUCATION:
1. Bill (No. 64), introduced to amend the High Schools Act, 46. Order
for second reading discharged, 128. Eestored to Order Paper, read
a second time and referred to the Committee of the Whole, 151.
House goes into Committee on, 165. Third reading, 215. E.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 104.)
2. Bill (No. 85), introduced to amend the Puhlic Schools Act, 70. Order
for second reading discharged, 128.
3. Bill (No. 87), introduced to amend the High Schools Act, 70. Order
for second reading discharged, 128.
4. Bill (No. 226), introduced to amend the Department of Education
Act, 207. Second reading, 220. House goes into Committee on, 241.
Third reading, 254. E.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 102.)
5. Bill (No. 219), introduced respecting certain Public School matters
in Toronto, 182. Second reading, 208. House goes into Committee
on, 219, 232. Third reading, 257. E.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 103.)
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6. Bill (No. 203), introduced respecting Industrial Schools, 145. Second
reading, 201. House goes into Committee on, 210. Third reading,
229. E.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 105.)
7. Bill (No. 204), introduced to amend the Public Schools Act, 145.
Order for second reading discharged, 184.
8. Bill (No. 205), introduced to amend the Truancy Act, 145. Order for
second reading discharged, 184.
9. Report of Minister presented, 101. (Sessional Papers No. 16.)
Printed.
10. Regulations and copies of Orders in Council presented, 27. Sessional
Papers No. 26.) Not printed.
11. Return ordered of copy of advertisement calling for tenders for print-
ing and publishing Ontario Readers, etc., 57. Presented, 141.
(Sessional Papers No. 65.) Not printed.
12. Return ordered, shewing number of male and female teachers granted
County Model School Certificates and Normal School Certificates, 82.
Presented, 194. (Sessional Papers No. 67.) Not printed.
13. Return ordered, shewing the number of permits and extensions granted
to Public School teachers ; reasons for granting, etc., 82. Presented,
212. (Sessional Papers No. 72.) Not printed.
14. Motion proposed and negatived, that because of abolition of Model
Schools, etc., ten per cent, of the Public Schools are without qualified
teachers, etc., 86.
15. Motion proposed and negatived, re printing of School readers by
Departmental Store, etc., 86.
16. Motion proposed and negatived, that readers are inferior to old
readers and that Primer be withdrawn, 86.
17. Motion proposed and negatived, regretting that no practical steps
have been taken to establish a system of Technical Schools, 86.
18. Motion proposed and superseded by amendment, that the Province
and the Municipalities should unite in the establishment of Technical
Schools in the Towns and Cities in Ontario to supplement the prac-
tical training of the workshop, etc., 246-8.
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19. Question re " Lesson Helps/' 208.
20. Question re amount of moneys given to Colleges or Universities by
Province, 217.
21. Petition respecting, 69. See Statute Law Amendment Act.
ELECTIONS :
1. New Writs issued for East Victoria and North Middlesex, 2.
2. Certificates of Election of Members, 3.
3. Returns from Record presented, 11. (Sessional Papers No. 50.)
Printed.
ELECTRICAL POWER: — See Hydro-Electric Power Commission Act.
EMIGRANTS :
1. Return ordered, shewing how many the Salvation Army brought out
from Great Britain and Ireland, where placed, etc., 132. Presented,
260. (Sessional Papers No. 78.) Not printed.
2. Question as to deportation, 137.
3. Question as to domestic servants sent by J. W. Rigby, 155.
4. Question as to how many came to Ontario owing to Provincial Grants.
216.
ENGLAND, THE LAW OF:
Bill (No. 122), introduced respecting, in certain matters, 9. Second read-
ing, 16. House goes into Committee on, 25. Third reading, title
amended, 154. R. A., 170. (10 Edw. VII. c. 45.)
ENTOMOLOGICAL SOCIETY:
Report presented, 211. (Sessional Papers No. 36.) Printed.
ESTATE BILLS:
Referred to Commissioners of, 51, 121, 164. Reported, 58, 83, 135, 178.
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ESTATES, DEVOLUTION OF:
Bill (No. 212), introduced respecting, 171. Second reading, 183. House
goes into Committee on, 210, 224. Third reading, 254. E.A., 274,
(10 Ed. VII. c. 56.)
ESTATES, TAIL:
Bill (No. 138), introduced respecting the assurance of, 22. Second
reading, 34. House goes into Committee on, 43. Third reading,
164. K.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 52.)
ESTIMATES :
Presented, 32, 44, 139, 173. (Sessional Papers No. 2.) Printed. See
Supply.
ESTREATS :
Bill (No. 132), introduced respecting, 10. Second reading, 16. House
goes into Committee on, 25. Third reading, 164. R.A., 170. (10 Ed.
VII. c. 43.)
EXCHEQUER COURT: — See Supreme Court.
EXECUTIVE COUNCIL:
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Bill (No. 206), introduced respecting, 152. Second reading, 201. House
goes into Committee on, 220, 222. Third reading, 229. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 4.)
pACTORIES:
Report presented, 212. (Sessional Papers No. ^d.) Printed.
FAIR WAGES AND HOURS OF LABOUR REGULATION ACT :
Bill (No. 61), introduced, 41. Motion for second reading; amendment
proposed re six months' hoist and amendment to amendment proposed
and negatived re appointment of Commission to enquire into question,
261. Amendment put and carried, 262-3. Main motion as amended
put and carried and Bill ordered to be read six months hence, 263-4.
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FALLS OF NIAGARA : — See Niagara Falls.
FARMERS' INSTITUTES :
Report presented, 54. (Sessional Papers No. 40.) Printed.
FEEBLE-MINDED :
Report presented, 205. (Sessional Papers No. 23.} Printed.
FIAT:
1. Return presented to an Order of the House, of the Session of 1909,
shewing how often the Government had been asked for permission to
institute an action, where necessary, 243. (Sessional Papers No. 77.)
~Not printed.
2. Motion proposed and negatived re denial of, 86.
FINANCIAL STATEMENT:
Delivered and Debate on adjourned, 52, 61, 71, 76, 83. Amendment
proposed and negatived and motion carried, 85-8. See Supply.
FIRE IN HOTELS:
Bill (No. 221), introduced to amend the Act for the prevention of acci-
dents by Fire, 182. Second reading and referred to the Legal Com-
mittee, 208. No report.
FISH AND GAME :
1. Bill (ISTo. 65), introduced to amend the Act, 52. Second reading and
referred to the Committee on Fish and Game, 91. No report.
2. Bill (No. 82), introduced to amend, 67. Order for second reading
discharged, 166.
3. Bill (No. 213), introduced to amend, 171. Second reading, 201.
House goes into Committee on, 220. Third reading, 254. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 101.)
4. Committee appointed, 41. No report.
5. Report presented, 94. (Sessional Papers No. 13.) Printed.
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6. Return ordered, shewing when registration of T. A. Hand was accepted,
etc., 133. Presented, 243. (Sessional Papers No. 76.) Not printed.
See Fishermen.
FISHERMEN :
Eeturn ordered, shewing number of licenses granted to in Lakes Superior,
Huron, etc., 31. Presented, 57. (Sessional Papers No. 62.) Not
printed.
FOREST RESERVES:
Bill (No. 102), introduced to establish, 23. Second reading, 34. House
goes into Committee on, 42. Third reading, 153. R.A., 170.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 8.)
FORT ERIE FERRY AND RAILWAY CO/Y: — See Buffalo and Fort Erie.
FORT FRANCES ANI> RAINY RIVER DISTRICT :
Question as to survey, or enquiry as to practicability of a general drainage
scheme, 81.
FORT WILLIAM, CITY OF:
Petition for Act respecting, 45. Reported, 64. Bill (No. 34), intro-
duced and referred, 74. Reported, 213. Second reading, 228.
House goes into Committee on, 234. Third reading, 255. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 114.)
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FRUIT BRANCH:
Report presented, 211. (Sessional Papers No. S3.) Printed.
FRUIT GROWERS' ASSOCIATION:
Report presented, 211. (Sessional Papers No. S2.) Printed.
GAME :
1. Bill (No. 65), introduced to amend the Act, 52. Second reading and
referred to the Committee on Fish and Game, 91. No report.
2. Bill (No. 82), introduced to amend, 67. Order for second reading
discharged, 166.
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3. Bill (No. 213), introduced to amend the Act, 171. Second reading,
'201. House goes into Committee on, 220. Third reading, 254.
R.A., 274. . (10 Ed. VII. c. 101.)
4. Committee appointed, 41. No report.
5. Report presented, 94. (Sessional Papers No. 18.) Printed.
6. Return ordered, re resignation of Game Warden Hand, 133. Presented,
243. (Sessional Papers No. 76.) Not printed. See Fish and Game.
Fishermen.
Q AOLS AND PRISONS :
»
Report presented, 228. (Sessional Papers No. 25.) Printed.
GENERAL SESSIONS ACT: — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
GILLIES LIMIT:
Return ordered, showing area of, how much mineralized, etc., 97.
iPresented. (Sessional 'Papers No. ^.5.) Not printed.
GOODS, CONTRACTS IN RELATION TO:
Bill (No. 147), introduced respecting, in the possession of Agents, 23.
Second reading, 34. House goes into Committee on, 43, 222.
Third reading, 223. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 66.)
GOODS, STOCKS OF IN BULK:
Bill (No. 69), introduced to regulate the purchase, sale and transfer of,
59. Order for second reading discharged, 128.
GOOD ROADS: — See Highway Improvement.
GOVERNMENT HOUSE:
Bill (No. 233), introduced respecting the property of, 221. Second
reading,. 241. House goes into Committee on; third reading,
246. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 7.)
GOVERNMENT ORDERS :
To he on Monday's Order Paper, 94.
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GUARANTEE COMPANIES SECURITIES ACT : — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
GUELPH, CITY OF :
Petition for Act respecting, 102. Reported, 118. Bill (No. 95), intro-
duced and referred, 137. Reported, 195. Second reading, 208.
House goes into Committee on, 219. Third reading, 222. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 115.)
|_J AMILTON, CITY OF:
Petition for Act respecting, 53. Reported, 117. Bill (No. 38), intro-
duced and referred, 122. Reported, 213. Second reading, 228.
House goes into Committee on, 240. Third reading, 255. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 116.)
HAMILTON SCHOOL OF ANATOMY:
Petition for Act of incorporation, 37. Reported, 118. Bill (No. 28),
introduced and referred, 122. Reported, 195. Second reading,
208. House goes into Committee on, 219. Third reading, 222.
R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 161.)
HAND, T. A.:
Return ordered, shewing when resignation was accepted, if voluntary, etc.,
133. Presented, 243. (Sessional Papers No. 76.) Not printed.
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HEALTH, PUBLIC:
Report presented, 101. (Sessional Papers No. 20.) Printed.
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT :
Report presented, 74. (Sessional Papers No. 14-) Printed.
HORTICULTURAL SOCIETIES :
1. Bill (No. 106), introduced respecting, 37. Second reading, 44. House
goes into Committee on, 47. Third reading, 165. R.A., 170. (10
Ed. VII. c. 20.)
2. Report presented, 211. (Sessional Papers No. 44-) Printed. See
Statute Law Amendment Act.
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HOSPITALS AND CHARITIES:
Report presented, 194. (Sessional Papers No. ££.) Printed.
HOUSE, THE:
1. Proclamation calling for despatch, 1.
2. Adjourns to an unusual hour, 83, 88, 124, 243, 260, 265.
3. Government Orders to be on Monday's Paper, 94.
4. Rule 50 repealed and new rule substituted, 202-5.
HURONTARIO RAILWAY COMPANY :
Petition for Act of incorporation, 95. Reported, 119. Bill (]STo. 163),
introduced and referred, 122. Reported, 160. Second reading, 172.
House goes into Committee on, 185. Third reading, 221. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 141.)
HYDRO-ELECTRIC POWER COMMISSION:
1. Bill (No. 225), introduced respecting, 207. Second reading, 220.
House goes into Committee on, 249. Third reading, amendment
negatived, 249-50. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 16.)
2. Bill (No. 164), introduced to amend the Act, 89. Motion for
second reading negatived, 251-2.
3. Return ordered, of awards by Arbitrators to settle disputes re ease-
ments, 116. Presented, 212. (Sessional Papers No. 69.) Not
printed.
4. Question as to amount expended to end of October, 1.909, for all
purposes, etc., 81.
5. Motion proposed and negatived, regretting that Commission in securing
easements, did not pursue a systematic plan, etc., 86. See Statute
Law Amendment Act.
DIOTS AND EPILEPTICS:
Report presented, 194. (Sessional Papers No. 22.) Printed. See Con-
firmed Criminals.
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IMMIGRATION :
' 1. Return ordered, shewing how many emigrants the Salvation Army
brought out in 1909, etc., 132. Presented, 260. (Sessional Papers
No. 78.} Not printed.
2. Question as to deportation, 137.
3. Question as to how many domestic servants J. W. Rigby sent to
Province, 155.
4. Question as to how many emigrants came to Province owing to Provin-
cial grants, 216.
INDUSTRIAL DISPUTES:
Bill (No. 156), introduced respecting Councils of Conciliation and Arbitra-
tion for settling, 41. Second reading, 47. House goes into Com-
mittee on, 68. Third reading, 165. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 74.)
INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLS :
Bill (No. 203), introduced respecting, 145. Second reading, 201.
House goes into Committee on, 210. Third reading, 229. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 105.)
INDUSTRIES :
Report presented, 211. (Sessional Papers No. -45.) Printed.
INFANT MORTALITY:
Report presented, 194. (Sessional Papers No. 66.) Printed.
INNKEEPERS : — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
INSANE, HOSPITALS FOR:
Report presented, 194. (Sessional Papers No. 21.) Printed.
INSOLVENT PERSONS:
Bill (No. 141), introduced respecting Assignments and Preferences by, 30.
Second reading, 43. House goes into Committee on, 47. Third
reading, 164. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 64.)
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INSURANCE :
1. Keturn presented, to an Order of the House of the Session of 1909, re
insurance in foreign unregistered corporations, 27. (Sessional Papers
No. 58). Not printed.
2. Keport presented, 94. (Sessional Papers No. 10.) Printed. See
Statute Law Amendment Act.
IKON RANGE RAILWAY:
Petition for Act respecting, 77. Reported, 118. Bill (No. 49), intro-
duced and referred, 121. Reported, 160. Second reading, 172.
House goes into Committee on, 185. Third reading, 197. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 142.)
JUDGES:— See Judicature, Court of.
JUDICATURE ACT :
1. Bill (No. 160), introduced to amend, 74. Second reading, 115.
House goes into Committee on, 135. Third reading, 154. R.A., 170.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 27.)
2. Bill (No. 196), introduced to amend, 137. Second reading, 155.
House goes into Committee on, 224. Third reading, 254. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 28.) 'See Statute Law Amendment Act.
JUDICATURE, SUPREME COURT or:
Bill (No. Ill), introduced respecting the Judges of, 8. Second reading,
15. House goes into Committee on, 35. Third reading, 153. R.A.,
170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 29.)
JUSTICES OF THE PEACE :
1. Bill (No. 107), introduced respecting procedure before and Summary
Convictions, 8. Second reading, 14. House goes into Committee on,
134, 199. Third reading, 221. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 37.)
2. Bill (No. 118), introduced respecting, 9. Second reading, 15. House
goes into Committee on, 26. Third reading 254. R.A., 274. (10
Ed. VII. c. 35.)
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JUVENILE COTJBTS:
1. Bill (No. 229), introduced respecting, 215. Second reading, 227.
House goes into Committee on, 224. Third reading, 254. K.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 96.)
"j
2. Petition respecting legislation under 7 & 8 Ed. VII. , .Dora., 95.
JUVENILE DELINQUENTS: — See Juvenile Courts.
J^ENOEA, TOW1ST OF:
1. Petition for Act respecting, 49. Eeported, 63. Bill (No. 43), intro-
duced and referred, 70. Reported, 181. Second reading, 201.
House goes into Committee on, 209. Third reading, 221. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 117.)
2. Petition for Act to amend Act of incorporation, 95. Not proceeded
with.
ABOUK, BUREAU OF:
1. Bill (No. 112), introduced respecting, 23. Second reading, 34. House
goes into Committee on, 42. Third reading, 153. E.A., 170. (10
Ed. VII. c. 13.)
2. Eeport Presented, 228. (Sessional Papers No. 15.) Printed, Sec
Fair Wages.
LAC SEUL, EAT PORTAGE AND KEEWATIN EAILWAY COMPANY :
Petition for Act respecting, 84. Eeported, 117. Bill (No. 50), intro-
duced and referred, 121. Eeported, 160. Second reading, 172.
House goes into Committee on, 185. Third reading, 196. E.A..
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 143.)
LAND LOCATION ACT :
Petition respecting, 30. ,
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LAND TITLES ACT:
1. Bill (No. 227), introduced to amend, 207. Second reading, 220. Reso-
lution introduced; Lieutenant-Governor's recommendation signified;
passed through Committee and referred to Bill, 230-2. House goes
into Committee on, 233. Third reading, 254. E.A., 274. (10 Ed.
VII. c. 61.)
i 2. Copies of Order in Council presented, under, 48. (Sessional Papers
No. 59.) Not printed.
LANDS, FORESTS AND MINES:
Keport presented, 228. (Sessional Papers No. 8.) Printed.
LANDLORD AND TENANTS ACT :
Bill (No. 168), introduced to amend, 90. Second reading, 115. House
goes into Committee on, 159. Third reading, 221. R.A., 274. (10
Ed. VII. c. 75.)
LAW SOCIETY:
Bill (No. 208), introduced to amend the Act respecting the, 152. Second
reading and referred to the Legal Committee, 201. Reported, 229.
House goes into Committee on; third reading, 245. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 76.)
LEASES, SHORT FORMS OF :
Bill (No. 108), introduced respecting, 10. Second reading, 16. House
goes into Committee on, 25, 182. Third reading, 207:. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 54.)
LEGAL COMMITTEE:
Appointed, 41. Report, 228.
• •
LEGAL OFFICES:
Report presented, 194. (Sessional Papers No. 6.) Printed.
LEGISLATION :
Return ordered, of copies of correspondence suggesting, or respecting, to
be introduced in 1907-8-9, 90. (Not brought down.)
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LESLIE, BLANCHE ELEANOR:
Petition for Act respecting the Estate of the late, 28. Keported, 50. Bill
(No. 17), introduced and referred to the Commissioners of Estate
Bills, 51. Reported and referred to the Committee on Private Bills,
58. Reported, 76. Second reading, 81. House goes into Commit-
tee on, 92. Third reading, 96. R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 167.)
LIBRARY :
1. Committee appointed, 31. No report.
2. Report presented, on state of, 17. (Sessional Papers No. 52.) Printed.
3. Resolution thanking University for use of building, and donors of books,
-31.
LIENS: — See Mechanics.
LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR :
1. Bill (No. 108), introduced respecting the, and his Deputies, 8. Second
reading, 14. House goes into Committee on, 23. Third reading, 153.
R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 3.)
2. His Speech at the opening, 4.
3. To be taken into consideration, 7.
4. Motion for Address in reply put and carried, 13-14.
5. Transmits Estimates, 32, 44, 139, 173.
6. Recommends Resolutions involving the expenditure of public moneys,
143, 230, 252.
7. Assents to Acts, 170, 274.
8. Speech at close of Session, 274.
LIMITED PARTNERSHIPS :
Bill (No. 143), introduced respecting, 11. Second reading, 17. House
goes into Committee on, 36. Third reading, 215. R.A., 274. (10
Ed. VII. c. 67.)
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LINE FENCES ACT: — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
LIQUOR LICENSE LAW:
1. Bill (No. 89), introduced to amend, 70. Motion for second reading
and amendment proposed and carried for six months hoist, 242.
2. Bill (No. 230), introduced to amend, 215. Second reading, 241.
Resolution introduced; Lieutenant-Governor's recommendation sig-
nified ; passed through Committee and referred to Bill, 252-3. House
goes into Committee on; third reading, 253. R.A., 274. (10 Ed.
VII. c. 94.)
3. Report presented, 211. (Sessional Papers No. 27.) Printed.
4. Question as to number of infractions of, in Cobalt, 199.
LIVE STOCK ASSOCIATIONS :
Report presented, 54. (Sessional Papers, No. 39.) Printed.
LOAN CORPORATIONS:
Report presented, 94. (Sessional Papers No. 11.) Printed. See
Statute Law Amendment Act.
LOCAL MUNICIPAL TELEPHONE ACT. :
Bill (No. 207), introduced to amend, 152. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 184. Reported, 214. House goes into
Committee on; third reading, 244-5. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII.
c. 92.)
LONDON, CITY OF :
Petition for Act respecting, 45. Reported, 64. Bill (No. 31), intro-
duced and referred, 66. Reported, 79. Second reading, 90. House
goes into Committee on, 96. Third reading, 154. R.A., 274. (10
Ed. VII. c. 118.) See Statute Law Amendment Act.
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fyJARRIED WOMAN'S KEAL ESTATE ACT:— See Statute Law
Amendment Act.
MASTER AND SERVANT:
Bill (No. 155), introduced respecting, 41. Second reading, 47. House
goes into Committee on, 68, 165. Third reading, 183. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 73.)
MECHANICS' LIENS :
Bill (No. 146), introduced respecting, 23. Second reading, 35. House
goes into Committee on, 68, 126. Third reading, 254. K.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 69.)
MEDICAL AMENDMENT ACT: — See Ontario Medical Amendment Act.
MEMBERS :
1. Notifications of vacancies and issue of new Writs, for East Victoria
and North Middlesex, 2.
2. Certificates of elections of Members, 3.
3. Take Oaths and Seats, 4.
4. Added to Committees, 46, 71.
5. Full Indemnity paid to, 264.
MERCANTILE LAW:
Bill (No. 133), introduced to amend, 11. Second reading, 16. House
goes into Committee on, 35, 255. Third reading, 255. K.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 63.)
MILK COMMISSION:
Report presented, 101. (Sessional Papers No. 55.) Printed.
MINES :
Report presented, 211. (Sessional Papers No. 4-) Printed. See
Statute Law Amendment Act.
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MISSISSIPPI RIVER:
Petition for Act respecting the levying and collecting of Tolls on the, 73.
Beported, 118. Bill (No. 55), introduced and referred,^ 120.
Reported, 152. Second reading, 166. House goes into Committee
on, 185. Third reading, 207. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 157.)
MONARCH FIRE INSURANCE COMPANY :
Petition for Act respecting, 49. Reported, 118. Bill (JNo. 36),. intro-
duced and referred, 122. Reported, 213. Second reading, 227.
House goes into Committee on, 240. Third reading, 255. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 158.)
MONARCH RAILWAY COMPANY:
Petition for Act of incorporation, 28. Reported, 77. Bill (No. 16),
introduced and referred, 85. Reported, 180. Second reading, 200.
House goes into Committee on, 218. Third reading, 221. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 144.)
MORRISBURG RAILWAY COMPANY:
Petition for Act respecting, 62. Reported, 117. Bill (ISlo. 51), intro-
duced and referred, 121. Reported; 160. Second reading, 172.
House goes into Committee on, 185. Third reading, 196. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed, VII. c. 145.)
MORTGAGES OF REAL ESTATE :
Bill (No. 134), introduced respecting, 11. Second reading, 17. House
goes into Committee on, 26, 183. Third reading, 207. R.A., 274.
HO Ed. VII. c. 51.)
MORTGAGES, SHORT EORMS OF :
Bill (No. 129), introduced respecting, 10. Second reading, 16. House
goes into Committee on, 26, 183. Third reading, 207. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VTI. c. 55.)
MORTMAIN :
Bill (!N"o. 181), introduced respecting, and the disposition of lands for
charitable uses, 126. Order for second reading discharged, 241.
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MOTOR VEHICLES ACT:
1. Bill (No. 202), introduced to amend, 145. Second reading and
referred to Municipal Committee, 201. No report.
2. Question as to number of convictions under, 234.
MUNICIPAL BY-LAWS AND AGREEMENTS:
Bill (No. 224), introduced respecting, 206. Second reading, 220. House
goes into Committee on; third reading, 249. E.A., 274. (10 Ed.
, VII. c. 87.)
MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE LAWS :
Bill (No. 179), introduced to revise and consolidate, 123. Second read-
ing, 155. House goes into Committee on, 202, 209, 256. Third
reading, 256. K.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 90.)
MUNICIPAL LAW:
1. Bill (No. 60), introduced to amend, 31. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 91. Keported, 214. Mr. N icicle.
2. Bill (No. 63), introduced to amend, 42. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 91. Reported, 214. Mr. Brower.
3. Bill (No. 66), introduced and referred, 59. Second reading and
referred to the Municipal Committee, 91. Reported, 214. Mr.
Macdiarmid.
4. Bill (No. 70), introduced to amend, 60. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 91. Reported, 214. Mr. Fripp.
5. Bill (No. 71), introduced to amend, 60. Order for second reading dis-
charged, 115. Mr. Fripp.
6. Bill (No. 72), introduced to amend, 60. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 115. Reported, 214. Mr. Fripp.
7. Bill (No. 73), introduced to amend, 60. Order for second reading dis-
charged, 115. Mr. Fripp.
8. Bill (No. 74), introduced to amend, 60. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 91. Reported, 214. Mr. Fripp.
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9. Bill (No. 75), introduced to amend, 60. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 97. Reported, 214. Mr. Bradburn.
10. Bill (No. 76), introduced to amend, 60. Order for second reading
discharged, 128. Mr. Bradburn.
11. Bill (No. 77), introduced to amend, 60. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 91. Reported, 214. Mr. Macdiarmid.
12. Bill (No. 78), introduced to amend, 60. Order for second reading
discharged, 92. Mr. Macdiarmid.
13. Bill (No. 79), introduced to amend, 66. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 91. Reported, 214. Mr. Thompson
(Simcoe.)
14. Bill (No. 81), introduced to amend, 67. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 97. Reported, 214. Mr. Hoyle.
15. Bill (No. 83), introduced to amend, 67. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 91. Reported, 214. Mr. Nickle.
16. Bill (No. 92), introduced to amend, 71. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 91. Reported, 214. Mr. Proudfoot.
17. Bill (No. 94), introduced to amend, 72. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 97. Reported, 214. Mr. McElroy.
18. Bill (No. 97), introduced to amend, 74. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 97. Reported, 214. Mr. Hearst.
19. Bill (No. 172), introduced to amend, 95. Second reading and
referred to the Municipal Committee, 127. Reported, 214. Mr.
Lennox.
20. Bill (No. 175), introduced to amend, 102. 'Second reading and
referred to the Municipal Committee, 139. Reported, 214. Mr.
Fripp.
21. Bill (No. 185), introduced to amend, 132. Second reading and
referred to the Municipal Committee, 142. Reported, 214. Mr.
Pearce.
22. Bill (No. 190), introduced to amend, 132. Second reading and
referred to the Municipal Committee, 142. Reported, 214. Mr.
McPherson.
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23. Bill (No. 192), introduced and referred, 137. Second reading and
referred to the Municipal Committee, 142. Reported, 214. Mr.
Brewster.
24. Bill (ISTo. 193), introduced to amend, 137. Order for second reading
discharged, 184. Mr. Jessop.
25. Bill (No. 195), introduced to amend, 137. Second reading and
referred to the Municipal Committee, 137. Reported, 214. Mr.
McPherson.
26. Bill (No. 199), introduced to amend, 142. Second reading and
referred to the Municipal Committee, 166. Reported, 214. Mr.
Fraser.
27. Bill (No. 215), introduced to amend, 172. Second reading and
referred to the Legal Committee, 208. No report. Mr. Grigg.
28. Bill (No. 223), introduced to amend, 206. Second reading, 227.
Order for House to go into Committee on discharged, 242. Mr. Duff.
29. Bill (No. 217), introduced, " The Municipal Amendment Act, 1910,"
171. Second reading, 201. House goes into Committee on, 225, 233.
Third reading, 254. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 85.) Mr. Hanna.
30. Committee appointed, 40. Report, 181, 206, 214.
31. Petitions respecting, 102.
MUNICIPAL LIGHT AND HEAT ACT :
Bill (No. 188), introduced to amend, 132. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 142. Reported, 206. House goes into
Committee on, 218, Third reading, 221. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII.
c. 91.)
MUNICIPAL SECURITIES ACT:
Bill (No. 197), introduced to amend, 142. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 166. Reported, 214. House goes into
Committee on, 225. Third reading, 230. R.A., 274. (10 Ed.
VII. c. 86.)
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MUNICIPAL WATER WORKS ACT :
Bill (No. 84), introduced to amend, 70. Second reading ano! referred
to the Municipal Committee, 91. Reported, 206. House goes into
Committee on, 225. Third reading, 229. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII.
c. 93.)
APANEE, TOWN OF:
Petition for Act to confirm By-law No. 818, 28. Reported, 50. Bill (No.
3), introduced and referred, 51. Reported, 76. Second reading, 80.
House goes into Committee on, 172. Third reading, 183. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 119.)
NATURAL GAS : — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
NIAGARA FALLS :
Bill (No. 125), introduced for the better government of that part of
Ontario situate in the vicinity of the Fall® of Niagara, 10. Second
reading, 16. House goes into Committee on, 35. Third reading,
153. R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 44.)
NIAGARA FALLS, WELLAND AND DUNNVILLE ELECTRIC RAILWAY:
: ~ ' !1
Petition for Act of incorporation, 116. Reported, 130. Bill (No. 169),
introduced and referred, 137. Reported, 181. Second reading, 200.
House goes into Committee on, 218. Third reading, 221. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 146.)
NIAGARA, TOWN OF :
Petition for Act respecting the, and Henry Winnett, 29. Reported, 78.
Bill (No. 24), introduced and referred, 80. Reported, 120. Second
reading, 127. House goes into Committee on, 138. Third reading,
154. R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 120.)
NICKLE RANGE RAILWAY COMPANY:
Petition for Act of incorporation, 29. Reported, 50. Bill (No. 4), intro-
duced and referred, 51. Reported, 84. Second reading, 90. House
goes into Committee on, 115. Third reading, 127. R.A., 170. (10
Ed. VII. c. 147.)
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NORTH MIDLAND RAILWAY COMPANY :
Petition for Act respecting, 49. Reported, 78. Bill (No. 35), introduced
and referred, 80. Reported, 125. Second reading, 134. House
goes into Committee on; third reading, 154. R. A., 170. (10 Ed.
VII. c. 148.)
NORTHCOTE, CHARLES :
Petition for Act respecting the Estate of, 30. Reported, 78. Bill (No.
23), introduced and referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills, 80.
Reported and referred to the Committee on Private Bills, 83-4.
Reported, 120. Second reading, 127. House goes into Committee
on, 134. Third reading, 154. R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 168.)
QNTARIO ANATOMY ACT:— See Statute Law Amendment Act.
ONTARIO COMPANIES ACT :
Bill (No. 231), introduced to amend, 215. Second reading, 227. House
goes into Committee on, 234. Third reading, 254. R.A., 274. (10
Ed. VII. c. 80.)
ONTARIO, HUDSON BAY AND WESTERN RAILWAY: — See Statute Law Amend-
ment Act.
ONTARIO MEDICAL AMENDMENT ACT :
1. Bill (No. 186), introduced, 132. Second reading and referred to a Select
Committee, 142. Reported, 181. House goes into Committee on,
218. Third reading, 221. R.A., 274. (10. Ed. VII. c. 77.) '
2. Bill (No. 216), introduced to amend, 171. Order for second reading
discharged, 242.
ONTARIO MUNICIPAL SECURITIES ACT:
Bill (No. 197), introduced to amend, 142. Second reading and referred
to the Municipal Committee, 166. Reported, 214. House goes into
Committee on, 225. Third reading, 230. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII.
c. 86.)
ONTARIO, PROVINCE OF :
Situation and size, climate, etc., presented, 55. (Sessional Papers No.
60.} Printed for distribution only,
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ONTARIO RAILWAY ACT :
1. Bill (No. 210), introduced to amend, 164. Second reading, 201. House
goes into Committee on; third reading, 246. R.A., 274. (10 Ed.
VII. c. 81.)
2. Bill (No. 201), introduced to amend, 145. Order for second reading
discharged, 184.
3. Bill (No. 214), introduced to amend, 171. Order for second reading
discharged, 241.
ONTARIO RAILWAY AND MUNICIPAL BOARD :
1. Bill (No. 67), introduced to amend the Act, 59. Order for second
reading discharged, 92.
2. Bill (No. 189), introduced to amend the Act, 132. Second reading
and referred to the Railway Committee, 142. Referred to the Legal
Committee, 196. Reported, 229. House goes into Committee on;
third reading, 245. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 82.)
3. Bill (No. 211), introduced to amend the Act, 164. Second reading,
201. House goes into Committee on ; third reading, 246. R A
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 83.)
4. Bill referred to Board, 65. Reported, 129.
5. Report presented, 44. (Sessional Papers No. 49.) Printed.
6. Question as to cost of, since inception, 197.
ONTARIO SCHOOL READERS : — See Education.
ONTARIO TELEPHONE ACT:
Bill (ISTo. 88), introduced, 70. Second reading and referred to Select
Committee, 124. Committee named, 129. Reported, 206. House
goes into Committee on; third reading, 244. R.A., 274. (10 Ed.
VII. c. '84.) See Local Municipal Telephone.
ONTARIO, TERRITORIAL DIVISION OF :
Bill (No. 103), introduced respecting the, for Municipal and Judicial pur-
poses, 8. Second reading, 14. House goes into Committee on, 25.
Third reading, 164. R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 2.)
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ONTARIO VEGETABLE GROWERS:
Report presented, 211. (Sessional Papers No. 34-) Printed.
ONTARIO VETERINARY COLLEGE :
Eeport presented, 211. (Sessional Papers No. 30.) Printed.
OSHAWA Y. M. C. A :
Petition for Act respecting, 29. Reported, 50. Bill (No. 8), introduced
and referred, 51. Reported: fees remitted, 75. Second reading. 80.
House goes into Committee on, 92. Third reading, 102. R.A., 170.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 162.)
OSTEOPATHIC COLLEGE :
Petition for Act of incorporation, 77. Reported adversely, 119. Fees
remitted, 214.
OTTAWA, CITY OF:
Petition for Act respecting, G9. Reported, 117. Bill (No. 53), intro-
duced and referred, 122. Reported, 213.- Second reading, 227.
House goes into Committee on, 240. Third reading, 255. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 121.)
OTTAWA Y. M. C. A. :
Petition for Act to amend Act incorporating, 29. Reported 63. Bill (No.
14), introduced and referred, 65. Reported; fees remitted, 76.
Second reading, 80. House goes into Committee on, 96. Third read-
ing, 102. R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 163.)
PARLIAMENT BUILDINGS:
Return ordered of copies of report relating to fire at, 165. Presented, 205.
(Sessional Papers No. 68.) Not printed.
PARTNERSHIPS., LIMITED :
Bill (No. 143), introduced respecting, 11. Second reading, 17. House
£oes into Committee on, 36. Third reading, 215. R.A., 274. (10
Ed. VII. c. 67.)
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PARTNERSHIPS, REGISTRATION OF :
Bill (No. 142), introduced respecting, 11. Second reading, 17. House
1 goes into Committee on, 145. Third reading, 254. R. A., 274. (10
Ed. VII. c. 68.)
PEACE, JUSTICES or: — See Justices of tJie Peace.
PENETANGUISHENE, TOWN OF:
Petition for Act respecting, 29. Reported, 63. Bill (No. 7), introduced
and referred to the Railway and Municipal Board, 65. Reported, and
referred to the Committee on Private Bills, 129. Reported, 181.
Second reading, 201. House goes into Committee on, 209. Third
reading, 221. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 122.)
PEOPLE'S RAILWAY COMPANY :
Petition for Act respecting, 29. Reported, 63. Bill (No. 18), introduced
and referred, 66. Reported adversely, 85. Recommitted to Com-
mittee, 164. Reported, 181. Second reading, 200. House goes into
Committee on, 219. Third reading, 221. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII.
c. 149.)
PERSONAL PROPERTY :
Bill (No. 145), introduced respecting mortgages and sales of, 46. Second
reading, 54. House goes into Committee on, 68, 216. Third read-
ing, 216. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 65.)
PETERBOROUGH, CITY OF:
Petition for Act respecting, 29. Reported, 63. Bill (No. 22), intro-
duced and referred, 66. Reported, 152. Second reading, 166.
House goes into Committee on, 185. Third reading, 196. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 123.)
PETTY TRESPASS :
Bill (No. 126), introduced respecting, 10. Second reading, 16. House
goes into Committee on, 35. Third reading, 153. R.A., 170. (10
Ed. VII. c. 50.)
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PHARMACY ACT :
Bill (No. 200), introduced to amend, 145. Second reading and referred
to the Legal Committee, 183. Reported, 229. House goes into Com-
mittee on; third reading, 245. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 78.)
See Statute Law Amendment Act.
POLICE, COMMISSIONERS OF :
Bill (No. 148), introduced respecting, appointed by the Government of
Canada, 23. Second reading, 34. House goes into Committee on,
43. Third reading, 153. K.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 38.)
POLICE CONSTABLES:
Bill (No. 114), introduced to authorize to take Bail, 9. Second reading,
15. House goes into Committee on, 24. Third reading, 153. R.A.,
170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 40.)
POLICE MAGISTRATES:
Bill (No. 104), introduced respecting, 8. Second reading, 14. House
goes into Committee on, 26, 222, 230. Third reading, 230. R.A.,
274 (10 Ed. VII. c. 36.)
PORT ARTHUR:
Question as to colonization road from, to Fort Frances and Rainy River,
81.
PORT ARTHUR, CITY OF :
Petition for Act respecting, 56. Reported, 131. Bill (No. 45), intro-
duced and referred, 131. Reported, 213. Second reading, 227.
House goes into Committee on, 240. Third reading, 255. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 124.)
PORT ARTHUR Y. M. C. A. :
Petition for Act of incorporation, 73. Reported, 130. Bill (No. 54),
Introduced and referred, 131. Reported; fees remitted, 213, 229.
Second reading, 227. House goes into Committee on, 240. Third
reading, 254. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 164.)
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PORT HOPE, TOWN OF :
Petition for Act respecting, 30. Reported, 77. Bill (No. 25), introduced
and referred, 80. Eeported, 120. Second reading, 127. House
2;oes into Committee on, 138. Third reading, 154. K.A., 170. (10
Ed. VII. c. 125.)
POULTRY INSTITUTE :
Report presented, 54. (Sessional Papers No. 4®-) Printed.
POWER OF ATTORNEY:
Bill (No. 121), introduced respecting, 9. Second reading, 16. House
' goes into Committee on, 24. Third reading, 153. E.A., 170. (-10
Ed. VII. c. 47.)
POWER COMMISSION ACT :
Bill (No. 164), introduced to amend, 89. Motion for second reading
negatived, 251-2. See Hydro-Electric Power.
PRINTING AND BINDING:
1. Agreements and Contracts in connection with, presented, 17. (Ses-
sional Papers Nos. 53, 54-) Printed.
2. Ratified by House, 36.
3. Committee appointed, 40. Report, 161, 257.
4. Recommend the purchase of Canadian Annual Review, 163. And King
Dodds' " Canadian Reminiscences," 260.
5. Recommend the printing of extra copies of Mines Report, 260.
PRIVATE BILLS:
•
Committee appointed, 39. Report, 75, 79, 120, 125, 151, 170, 181, 195,
213, 229.
PRIVILEGES AND ELECTIONS :
Committee appointed, 39. No report.
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PROVINCIAL MUNICIPAL AUDITOR :
Report presented, 228. (Sessional Papers No. 8.) Printed.
PUBLIC ACCOUNTS:
1. Committee appointed, 40. Report, 264. (Appendix No. 1.)
2. Ten months' Accounts presented, 27. (Sessional Papers No. 1.)
Printed.
3. Referred to Committee, 27.
PUBLIC HEALTH:
1. Bill (No. 98), introduced to amend the Act, 74. Second reading and
referred to the Municipal Committee, 123. No report.
2. Report presented, 101. (Sessional Papers, No. 20.) Printed. See
Statute Law Amendment Act.
« •
PUBLIC HIGHWAYS :
1. Bill (No. 166), introduced to amend the Act for the improvement of, 89.
Order for second reading discharged, 134.
2. Bill (No. 209), introduced to amend the Act for the improvement of,
163. Second reading and referred to the Municipal Committee, 207.
Reported, 214. House goes into Committee on, 226. Third reading.
230. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 14.)
PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS :
Question re purchase, directly, of meat supplies, 198.
PUBLIC OFFICERS:
Bill (No. 100), introduced respecting the fees of certain, 8. Second read-
ing, 14. House goes into Committee on, 219. Third reading, 222.
R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 5.) See Statute Law Amendment Act.
PUBLIC WORKS:
1. Bill (No. 158), introduced, 23. Second reading, 35. House goes into
Committee on, 210, 223. Third reading, 224. R.A., 274. (10 Ed.
VII. c. 11.)
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2. Bill (No. 101), introduced respecting Riots near, 23. Second reading,
35. House goes into Committee on, 42. Third reading, 153. R.A.,
170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 12.)
3. Report presented, 74. (Sessional Papers No. 12.) Printed.
QUEEN VICTORIA NIAGARA FALLS PARK:
1. Bill (No. 152), introduced respecting, 37. Second reading, 44. House
goes into Committee on, 48, 95, 224. Third reading, 254. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 21.)
2. Report presented, 167. (Sessional Papers No. 9.) Printed.
QUESTIONS :
1. Ee Survey in Fort Frances -and Rainy River, 81. Mr. MacKay (Grey.)
2. Re Hydro-Electric Commission expenditure*, 81. Mr. MacKay (Grey.)
3. Ee W. W. Baby, reimbursement of certain law costs, 23. Mr. Machin.
4. Ee publication, in pamphlet form, of certain Acts for distribution to
Municipal Officials, 128. Mr. Stock.
5. Ee deportation of undesirable immigrants, 137. Mr. Studholme.
0. Ee number of domestic servants sent to Province by J. W. Rigby, 155.
Mr. Studholme.
7. Ee commencement of road from Sudbury to Sault Ste. Marie — how
many miles completed, 16G. Mr. MacKay (Grey.)
8. Ee cost, since inception, of Railway and Municipal Board, 197.
Mr. Elliott.
9. Ee direct purchase, by Public Institutions, of their own supplies of
meats, 198. Mr. Kohler.
10. Ee number of convictions for infraction of Liquor License Act, in
Town of Cobalt, 199. Mr. MacKay (Grey.)
11. Ee suggestion, or recommendation, that " Lesson Helps " be issued in
connection with Public School Readers, 208. Mr. Stock.
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12. Re number of immigrants coming to Ontario, owing to Provincial
Grants and organization, 216. Mr. McDougal.
13. Ee intention of Government to reduce passenger and freight rates on
the Temiskaming and 1ST. O. Railway, 217. Mr. McEwing.
14. Re issue of Debentures made for Park and Water Works purposes
by Burlington Beach Commissioners, 217. Mr. Reed (Wentworth.)
15. Re moneys given by Province to Colleges or Universities, 217.
Mr. Elliott.
16. Re number of convictions made under -the Motor Vehicles Act, 234.
Mr. Stock.
DAILWAY ACT:— See Ontario Railway Ad.
RAILWAY AID: — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
RAILWAY COMMITTEE :
Appointed, 39. Report, 84, 125, 160, 195.
RAILWAY CROSSINGS:
Petition respecting, 124.
RAILWAY AND MUNICIPAL BOARD: — See Ontario Railway and Municipal Board.
REAL OR PEKSONAL ESTATE:
Bill (No. 136), introduced to restrain the accumulation of the profits
or produce of, 11. Second reading, 17. House goes into Committee
on, 25. Third reading, 153. R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 46.)
See Titles, Mortgages.
REGISTRY ACT :
1. Bill (No. 171), introduced respecting the Registration of Instruments
relating to Lands, 126. Second reading, 143. House goes into Com-
mittee on, 173, 202, 223. Third reading, 223. R.A., 274. (10 Ed.
VII. c. 60.)
2. Bill (No. 198), introduced to amend, 142. Order for second muling
discharged, 202.
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3. Report presented, 194. (Sessional Papers, No. 7.) Printed.
RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS :
Bill (No. 161), introduced to amend the Act respecting the Property of,
74. Second reading, 115. House goes into Committee on, 135.
Third reading, 154. R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 106.)
REPLEVIN: — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
RIGBY, J. W.:
Question as to how many domestic servants sent to Province by, 155.
RONDEAU, PROVINCIAL PARK :
Bill (No. 149), introduced to establish, 30. Second reading, 43. House
goes into Committee on, 47. Third reading, 164. R.A., 170.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 23.)
/
ST. CATHARINES, CITY OF:
1. Petition for Act to confirm By-law No. 2106, 29. Reported, 63.
Bill (No. 19), introduced and referred, 66. Reported, 120. Second
reading, 127. House goes into Committee on, 138. Third reading;
title amended, 154. R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 126.)
2. Petition for Act to confirm By-law No. 2116, 37. Reported, 118.
Bill (No. 29), introduced and referred, 121. Reported, 181. Second
reading, 200. House goes into Committee on, 219. Third reading,
221. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 127.)
3. Petition for Act to confirm By-law No. 2126, 56. Reported, 118.
Bill (No. 42), introduced and referred, 122. Reported, 181. Second
reading, 200. House goes into Committee on, 219. Third reading,
222. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 128.)
ST. THOMAS CEMETERY CO'Y. :
Petition for Act respecting, 29. Reported, 62. Bill (No. 15), intro-
duced and referred, 65. Reported, 76. Second reading, 81. House
goes into Committee on, 92. Third reading, 102. R.A., 274. (10
Ed. VII. c. 159.)
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ST. THOMAS STREET RAILWAY :
Petition for Act respecting, 55. Reported, 78. Bill (No. 40), introduced
and referred, 80. Reported, 125. Second reading, 134. House goes
into Committee on, 138. Third reading, 154. R.A., 170. (10 Ed.
VII. c. 150.)
SAN JOSE SCALE : — See Vegetation.
SECRETARY AND REGISTRAR :
Report presented, 167. (Sessional Papers No. 18.) Printed.
SHEEP AND DOGS:
1. Bill (No. 86), introduced to amend the Act, 70. Second reading and
referred to the Committee on Agriculture and Colonization, 123.
Reported, 206. House goes into Committee on, 234. Third reading,
254. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 97.)
2. Petition respecting, 69.
SHUNIAH, MUNICIPALITY OF :
Petition for Act respecting, 29. Reported, 77. Bill (No. 20), introduced
and referred, 79. Reported, 213. Second reading, 227. House goes
into Committee on, 240. Third reading, 254. R.A., 274. (10 Ed.
VII. c. 129.)
SIMCOE RAILWAY AND POWER COMPANY :
Petition for Act respecting, 56. Reported, 63. Bill (No. 44), introduced
and referred, 95. Reported, 195. Second reading, 208. House
goes into Committee on, 226. Third reading, 229. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 151.)
i
SOLICITORS :
Bill (No. 91), introduced to amend the Act respecting, 70. Order for
second reading discharged, 134. Petition respecting, 72.
SOUTHWOLD AND YARMOUTH, TOWNSHIPS OF :
Petition for Act to confirm certain By-laws and an agreement between the,
46. Reported, 63. Bill (No. 33), introduced and referred, 66.
Reported, 79. Second reading, 90. House goes into Committee on,
96. Third reading, 103 R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 130.)
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SPEAKER, MR. :
1. Informs House of vacancies and issue of new Writs, 2.
2. That Certificates of Elections had been laid upon Table, 3.
3. That he had obtained His Honour's Speech, 7.
4. That Returns from the Records of Elections had been laid upon the
Table, 11.
5. That Clerk had received Reports from Commissioners of Estate Bills,
57, 83, 135.
6. From Railway and Municipal Board^, 129.
7. Communicates Report on State of the Library, 17.
SPEECH : — See Lieutenant-Governor.
STANDING ORDERS:
1. Committee appointed, 40.
2. Report, 50, 62, 64, 77, 117, 119, 130, 131.
3. Recommend extension of time, 63, 119.
4. Recommend that the attention of Committees be called to certain
matters, 64, 65, 79, 120, 131.
STATIONARY ENGINEERS : — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
STATUTE LABOUR:
1. Bill (No. 80), introduced respecting, 67. Second reading and referred
to Municipal Committee, 91. Reported, 181. Order for House to go
into Committee on, discharged, 241.
2. Bill (No. 183), introduced respecting, 126. Second reading and
referred to the Municipal Committee, 142. Reported, 214. House
goes into Committee on, 226. Third reading, 229. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 89.)
3. Petitions respecting, 73.
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STATUTES AND STATUTE LAW AMENDMENT ACT :
1. Bill (No. 162), introduced, 76. Second reading, 201. House goes into
Committee on, 261. Third reading, 261. E.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII,
c. 26.)
2. Statement re distribution of Revised and Sessional, presented, 75.
(Sessional Papers No. 64-) Not printed.
3. Question as to publication, in pamphlet form, of certain Acts for dis-
tribution to Municipal Officials, 128.
4. Return ordered, shewing names of Judges, etc., composing the Revision
Commission, cost, when to be completed, etc., 188. Presented, 243.
(Sessional Papers No. 75.) Not printed.
STEAM BOILERS :
Bill (No. 228), introduced respecting, 215. Second reading, 226. House
goes into Committee on, 233. Third reading, 254. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII, c. 98.)
STRATFORD, CITY OF:
Petition for Act respecting an agreement with the Grand Trunk Railway
Company of Canada, 49. Reported, 62. Bill (No. 21), intro-
duced and referred, 66. Reported, 171. Second reading, 1 84. House
goes into Committee on, 218. Third reading, 221. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 131.)
SUCCESSION DUTY ACT:
1. Bill (No. 222), introduced to amend, 196. Second reading, 208.
House goes into Committee on, 225. Third reading, 230. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 6.)
2. Rules and Regulations presented under the, 75. (Sessional Papers
No. 63.) Printed for distribution only.
SUDBURY AND SAULT ROAD :
Question as to when commenced, how many miles completed, etc., 166.
SUMMARY CONVICTIONS : — See Justices of the Peace. Statute Law Amendment
Act.
SUPPLEMENTARY REVENUE ACT: — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
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SUPPLY :
1. House resolves to go into Committee, 32.
2. Estimates presented and referred, 32, 44, 139, 1T3. (Sessional Papers
No. 2.} Printed.
3. Goes into Committee, 33, 88, 92, 97, 103, 139, 173.
4. Financial Statement delivered and Debate on adjourned, 52, 61, 71,
76, 83. Motion carried, 88.
5. Eesolutions reported for Concurrence, 33, 103, 146, 185.
6. Amendment proposed and negatived to motion, " That Mr. Speaker do
now leave the Chair: — "Regretting that current expenditures exceed
current receipts, etc., etc., 85-6.
7. House resolves to go into Committee of Ways and Means, 32. Goes
into Committee, 34, 193.
8. Bill of Supply introduced (No. 234) and read a first, second and
third time, 264. E. A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 1.)
SURROGATE COURTS:
1. Bill (No. 130), introduced respecting, 10. Second reading, 16. House
goes into Committee on, 48, 126, 144. Third reading, 254. E.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 31.)
2. Copies of Orders in Council presented under Act, 48. (Sessional
Papers, No. 59.} Not printed.
3. Copies of Orders in Council presented, 57. (Sessional Papers No. 61.)
"Not printed.
AIL, ESTATES:
Bill (No. 138), introduced respecting the Assurance of, 22. Second
reading, 34. House goes into Committee on, 43. Third reading,
164. E.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 52.)
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TAY, TOWNSHIP OF:
1. Petition for Act respecting, 56. Reported, 62. Bill (No. 32), intro-
duced and referred, 66. Reported, 152. Second reading, 200. House
goes into Committee on, 209. Third reading, 215. E.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 132.)
2. Petition for Act to confirm Agreement between the, and the Grand Trunk
Railway Company of Canada, 56. Reported, 62. Bill (No. 5),
introduced and referred, 65. Reported, 152. Second reading, 200.
House goes into Committee on, 209. Third reading, 215. R.A.,
274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 133.)
TECHNICAL SCHOOLS:
1. Motion proposed and negatived re establishment of system of, 86.
See Education.
2. Motion proposed and superseded by amendment, that the Province
and Municipalities should unite in establishment of, etc., etc., 246-8.
TELEPHONE SYSTEMS : — See Ontario Telephone Act. Local Municipal
Telephone.
TEMISKAMING AND N. O. RAILWAY :
1. Bill (No. 176), introduced to amend the Act, 102. Second reading,
143. Resolution introduced; Lieutenant-Governor's recommendation
signified; passed through Committee and referred to Bill, 143-4.
House goes into Committee on, 165. Third reading, 215. R.A., 271.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 15.)
2. Report of Commission presented, 27. (Sessional Papers No. Jf'7.)
Printed.
3. Question as to reduction of passenger rates, etc., 217.
THORNBUEY, TOWN OF:
Petition for Act to confirm By-law No. 9, 29. Reported, 50. Bill (No. 1),
introduced and referred, 51. Reported, 79. Second reading, 90.
House goes into Committee on, 96. Third reading, 103. R.A., 170.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 134.)
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THUNDER BAY, NEPIGON AND ST. JOE RAILWAY:
Petition for Act to extend time for the commencement and completion
of, 95. Not proceeded with.
TILLSONBURG AND SOUTHERN COUNTIES RADIAL RAILWAY i — See Statute Law
Amendment Act.
TIME:
Bill (No. 117), introduced respecting the legal meaning of expressions
relative to, 9. Second reading, 15. House goes into Committee on,
24. Third reading, 153. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 62.)
TITLES :
1. Bill (No. 131), introduced respecting Vendors and Purchasers and to
simplify, 10. Second reading, 16. House goes into Committee on, 27.
Third reading, 153. R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 58.)
2. Bill (No. 139), introduced for quieting to Real Estate, 22. Second
reading, 34. House goes into Committee on, 43, 72. Third reading,
254. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII. c. 59.)
TORONTO, CITY OF:
1. Petition for Act respecting, 73. Reported, 117. Bill (No. 59), intro-
duced and referred, 121. Referred to Commissioners of Estate Bills,
164. Reported and recommitted to Committee on Private Bills,
178-80. Reported, 213. Second reading, 241. House goes into
Committee on, 244. Third reading, 255. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII.
c. 135.)
2. Petition re payment of $200,000 towards Toronto Hospital Site, 124.
See above. Education, 5.
3. Fees remitted on Bill (No. 177), 229. Not proceeded with.
TORONTO GENERAL BURYING GROUND:
Petition for Act respecting the Trustees of, 29. Reported, 50. Bill
(No. 12), introduced and referred to the Commissioners of Estate
Bills, 51. Reported and referred to the Committee on Private Bills,
58. Reported, 79. Second reading, 90. House goes into Committee
on, 127. Third reading, 154. R.A., 170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 160.)
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TORONTO GENERAL HOSPITAL ACT: — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
TORONTO, HALIBURTON AND PEMBROKE RAILWAY OO/Y:
Petition for Act of incorporation, 49. Reported, 77. Bill (No. 37),
introduced and referred, 80. Reported, 125. Second reading, 134.
House goes into Committee on, 146. Third reading, 154. R.A.,
170. (10 Ed. VII. c. 152.)
TORONTO, LINDSAY AND PEMBROKE RAILWAY: — See Statute Law Amendment
Act.
TORONTO, PUBLIC SCHOOL MATTERS, IN : — See Education, 5.
TORONTO SUBURBAN RAILWAY:
Petition for Act respecting, 95. Reported, 130. Bill (No. 170.), intro-
duced and referred, 131. Reported, 160. Second reading, 172.
House goes into Committee on, 185. Third reading, 197. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 153.)
TORONTO UNIVERSITY:
Report presented, 27. (Sessional Papers No. 17.) Printed. See Statute
Law Amendment Act.
TOWN SITES:
Bill (No. 191), introduced respecting, 137. Second reading, 155. House
goes into Committee on, 210. Third reading, 215. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 9.)
TRACTION ENGINES:
Bill (No. 194), introduced to authorize and regulate the use of on High-
ways, 137. Order for second reading discharged, 155.
TRENTON, TOWN OF:
Petition for Act respecting, 73. Reported, 130. Bill (JSTo.-57), intro-
duced and referred, 131. Reported withdrawn; fees remitted, 229.
TRUANCY ACT:
Bill (No. 205), introduced to amend, 145. Order for second reading
discharged, 184.
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TUBERCULOSIS :
Bill (No. 62), introduced to prevent the spread of Pulmonary, 42. Order
for second reading discharged, 146.
TEKKITOKY ACT:— See Statute Law Amendment Act.
UPPEE CANADA GEAMMAE SCHOOL LANDS : — See Clergy Reserves.
VACCINATION AND INOCULATION :
Bill (No. 90), introduced respecting, 70. Order for second reading dis-
charged, 128.
VEGETABLE GEOWEES' ASSOCIATION:
Report presented, 211. (Sessional Papers, No. 34-} Printed.
VEGETATION :
Bill (No. 218), introduced to prevent the spread of insect and fungous
diseases injurious to, 182. Second reading, 208. House goes into
Committee on, 256. Third reading, 256. R.A., 274. (10 Ed. VII.
c. 99.)
VENDOES AND PUECHASEES: — See Titles.
VETEEINAEY COLLEGE: — See Ontario Veterinary College.
Bill (No. 154), introduced respecting, 46. Second reading, 54. House
goes into Committee on, 68. Third reading, 165. R.A., 170.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 72.) See Fair Wages. Mechanics. Woodman's Lien.
Worlcs.
WAHNAPITAE RAILWAY COMPANY:
Petition for Act of incorporation, 30. Reported, 50. Bill (No. 51),
introduced and referred, 51. Reported, 85. Second reading, 90.
House goes into Committee on, 116. Third reading, 127. R.A., 170.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 154.)
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WEEDS, Noxious :
Petition re spread of, 84. See Vegetation.
WESTERN CENTRAL KAIL WAY COMPANY:
Petition for Act respecting, 30. Eeported,- 50. Bill (No. 10), intro-
duced 'and referred, 51. Reported, 84. Second reading, 90. House
goes into Committee on, 116. Third reading, 127. E,A., 170.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 155.)
WILLS :
Bill (No. 137), introduced respecting, 22. Second reading, 34. House
goes into Committee on, 42, 255. Third reading, 255. E.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 57.)
WINDSOR, CITY OF:
Petition for Act respecting, 56. Eeported, 118. Bill (No. 46), intro-
duced and referred, 122. Eeported, 171. Second reading, 184.
House goes into Committee on, 202. Third reading, 207. E.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 136.)
WINNETT, HENRY: — See Niagara, Town of.
WISMER, JUDGE: — See Surrogate Court.
WITNESSES FOR THE CROWN: — See Crown Witnesses.
WOLVES: — See Statute Law Amendment Act.
WOMEN'S INSTITUTES:
Eeport presented, 54. (Sessional Papers No. J^l.) Printed.
WOODMAN'S LIEN FOR WAGES ACT:
Bill (No. 150), introduced respecting, 56. Second reading, 67. House
goes into Committee on, 72. Third reading, 254. E.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 70.)
WOODSTOCK Y. M. C. A. :
Petition for Act respecting, 56. Eeported, 118. Bill (No. 58), intro-
duced and referred, 122. Eeported, fees, remitted, 152, 171. Second
reading, 166. House goes into Committee on, 172. Third reading,
183. E.A., 274. (10 Edw. VII. c. 165.)
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WOBKMAN'S COMPENSATION ACT :
1. Bill (No. 178), introduced to amend, 123. Order for second reading
discharged, 155.
2. Bill (No. 220), introduced to amend, 182. Order for second reading
discharged, 220.
WORKS :
Bill (No. 154), introduced to secure payment of Wages for labour per-
formed in the construction of, 46. Second reading, 54. House goes
into Committee on, 68, 96. Third reading, 165. E.A., 170. (lU Ed.
VII. c. 71.)
ROADS:— See Statute Law Amendment Act
YORK, TOWNSHIP OF:
Petition for Act respecting, 73. Reported, 118. Bill (No. 93), intro-
duced and referred, 121. Reported, 181. Second reading, 201.
House goes into Committee on, 209. Third reading, 221. R.A., 274.
(10 Ed. VII. c. 1370
LIST OF SESSIONAL PAPERS
PRESENTED TO THE HOUSE DURING THE SESSION.
TITLE.
No.
REMARKS.
Accounts, Public, for ten months 1 Printed.
Agricultural College, Eeport 29
Agricultural and Experimental Union, Eeport 31
Agricultural Societies, Eeport 43
Agriculture, Department of, Eeport 28
Archives, Eeport 51
Auditor, Statement of 57
Bee-Keepers, Eeport 37 Printed.
Binding and Printing, Contract 53
Binding, Contract 54 "
Births, Marriages and Deaths, Eeport 19
Blind Institute, Eeport — part of 16
Canadian Northern Eailway in Clay Belt of Northern Ontario 73 Not Printed.
Children Neglected and Dependent, Eeport 26 Printed.
Colonization, Eeport of Bureau 74
Colonization Eoads, amount paid for inspection 70 Not Printed.
Corn Growers', Eeport 35 Printed.
Dairymen's Association, Eeport 38 Printed.
Division Courts' Inspection, Eeport 5
Drainage, Money Loaned for 71 Not Printed.
Education, Eeport 16 Printed.
Education, Orders in Council 56 Not Printed.
Education, County Model School Certificates Granted to _•__„
Teachers 67
Education, Permits and Extensions Granted 72 ts
Elections, Eeturn from Eecords 50 Printed.
Emigrants brought by Salvation Army 78 Not Printed.
Entomological Society, Eeport 36 Printed.
Estimates, 1910-1911 2 "
Factories, Eeport 46 Printed.
Farmers' Institutes, Eeport . . . , , 40
Feeble-Minded, Eeport on the 23
Fiat, Cases where necessary 77 Vot Printed.
Fishermen, Licenses Granted to, in Lake Huron and else-
where . , 62
Fisheries and Game, Eeport 13 Printed.
Fruit Branch, Eeport ' 33
Fruit Growers', Eeport 32
[liii]
IJST OF SESSIONAL PAPERS.
TITLE.
No.
REMARKS.
Game and Fish, Eeport j 13 Printed.
Gaols and Prisons, Eeport I 25
Gillies' Limit, Area of, etc 48 Not Printed.
Hand, Game Warden, Eesignation of, etc .....! 76 Not Printed.
Health, Eeport j 20 Printed.
Highway Improvement, Eeport 14
Horticultural Societies', Eeport 44
Hospitals and Charities', Eeport 24
Hospitals for Idiots and Epileptics, Eeport 22
Hospitals for Insane, Eeport 21
Hydro-Electric Power Commission, Award of Arbitrators
re Easements 69 Not Printed.
Idiots and Epileptics, Hospital, Eeport 22 Printed.
Industries, Eeport 45 "
Infant Mortality, Eeport on 66
Insane, Hospitals for, Eeport 21
Insurance, Eeport 10 "
Insurance, Permits to Effect, in Foreign Unregistered
Corporations 58 \rot Printed.
Labour, Eeport 15 Printed.
Lands, Forests and Mines, Eeport 3
Land Titles Act, Orders in Council 59 Not Printed.
Legal Offices Inspection, Eeport 6 Printed.
Library, Eeport on State of 52
Liquor License Act, Operation of, Eeport 27
Live Stock Associations, Eeport 39
Loan Corporations, Eeport 11
Milk Commission, Beport 55 Printed.
Mines, Bureau of, Eeport 4
Ontario, Situation, Size, Climate, etc. 60 Printed for dis-
tribution only.
Ontario Eailway and Municipal Board, Eeport 49 Printed.
Ontario Eeaders, Tenders for Printing 65 Not Printed.
Ontario Veterinary College, Eeport 30 Printed.
Parliament Buildings, Eeports re Fire at 68 \Not Printed.
Poultry Institute, Eeport 42 Printed.
Printing and Binding Contracts , . j 53
Prisons and Gaols, Eeport 25 "
Provincial Municipal Auditor, Eeport 3 "
Public Accounts, ten months 1 «
Public Works, Eeport 12 "
Queen Victoria Niagara Falls Park, Eeport 9 Printed.
Eailway and Municipal Board, Eeport 49 Printed.
Eegistrar-General, Eeport 19 "
Registry Offices, Inspection, Eeport 7 "
LIST OF SESSIONAL PAPERS.
Iv
TITLE.
No.
REMARKS.
Secretary and Registrar, Report
1ft
Printed
Statutes Commission, Composition of, etc
75
Not Printed.
Statutes, Distribution of
«
Succession Duty Act, Rules and Regulations
64
Printed for dis-
Surrogate Court, Orders in Council
63
59
tribution only.
Not Printed
Surrogate Court, Orders in Council
61
<(
Temiskaming and N. 0. R. Commission, Report
AH
Printed
Teachers' Certificates
rt 1
G.<7
Not Printed.
Teachers' Permits and Extensions
U 1
79
ee
Toronto University, Report
la
1 7
Printed.
Vegetable Growers' Association, Report
34
Printed
Veterinary College, Report
30
<t
Women's Institutes, Report . .
44
Printed
PAPER OEDEEED BUT NOT BROUGHT DOWN.
PAGE
Legislation, correspondence suggesting 90
JOURNALS
OF THE
Legislative Assembly
OF THE
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO
Tuesday, 25th January, 1910.
PROCLAMATION.
Canada, ^
Province of JOHN MORISON GIBSON.
Ontario. J
EDWARD VIlTH, by the Grace of GOD, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain
and Ireland and of the British Dominions beyond the Seas, KING, Defender
of the Faith, Emperor of India, &c., &c., &c.
To Our Faithful, the Members elected to serve in the Legislative Assembly of
Our Province of Ontario and to every of you — GREETING.
JAMES JOSEPH FOY, 1 VVT HEREAS it is expedient for certain causes
Attorney General, j VV and considerations to convene the Legisla-
tive Assembly of Our said Province, WE DO WILL that you and each of
you, and all others in this behalf interested, on TUESDAY, the TWENTY-FIFTH
day of the month of JANUARY now next, at OUR CITY OF TORONTO,
personally be and appear for the DESPATCH OF BUSINESS, to treat, act, do
and conclude upon those things which, in Our Legislature of the Province of
Ontario by the Common Council of Our said Province, may by the favour of
God be ordained. HEREIN FAIL NOT.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, we have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent,
and the Great Seal of Our Province of Ontario to be here-
unto affixed: WITNESS, His Honour JOHN MORISON GIBSON, K.C.,
LL.D., &c., &c., &e., LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR of Our Province of
Ontario, at Our Government House, in the City of Toronto, in Our
25TH JANUARY. 1910
said Province, this TENTH day of JANUARY, in the year of Our
Lord One thousand nine hundred and ten, and in the Ninth year
of Our Reign.
By Command,
ARTHUR H. SYDERE,
Clerk of the Crown in Chancery.
Tuesday, the twenty-fifth day of January, 1910, being the First day of the
Second Meeting of the Twelfth Legislature of the Province of Ontario for the
Despatch of Business, pursuant to a Proclamation of His Honour John Morison
Gibson, K.C., LL.D., &c., &c., &c., Lieutenant-Governor of the Province.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK P.M.
Mr. Speaker informed the House, that he had received notifications of
vacancies which had occurred since the last Session of the House, and had
issued his Warrants to the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery for new Writs for
the Election of Members to serve in the present Legislature for the following
Electoral Districts: —
VICTORIA, EAST, AND MIDDLESEX, NORTH.
To the Honourable Thomas Crawford, Speaker of the Legislative Assembly
of the Province of Ontario.
I, the undersigned, John Hilliard Carnegie, having accepted an office of
emolument under the Crown, to wit, the Office of Distributor of Law Stamps
at Osgoode Hall, do hereby resign my seat in the Legislative Assembly of the
Province of Ontario, as a Member Elect for the Electoral Division of the East
Riding of Victoria.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 30th day
of April, A.D., 1909.
Signed and sealed in the presence of
JOHN H. CARNEGIE. [L.S.]
W. B. WILKINSON.
ARTHUR H. SYDERE.
Edw. VII. 25TH JANUARY.
To the Honourable Thomas Crawford, Speaker of the Legislative Assembly
of the Province of Ontario, Toronto, Out.
Dear Sir,
As the representative of the Kiding of North Middlesex in the Legislative
Assembly of the Province of Ontario, I beg leave to declare that I hereby resign
my seat for the said Kiding.
Dated at Strathroy this twenty-ninth day of October, A.D., 1909.
Witnesses.
GEO. H. ADAMSON,
A TTT -D DUNCAN C. Eoss.
A. W. BIXEL.
Mr. Speaker also informed the House, That the Clerk had laid upon the
Table the following Certificates : —
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
THIS is TO CERTIFY that in virtue of a Writ of Election, dated the first
day of May, 1909, issued by His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor, and
addressed to William J. Read, Esquire, Returning Officer for the Electoral
District of East Victoria for the election of a Member to represent the said
Electoral District of East Victoria in the Legislative Assembly of this Province,
in the room of John Hilliard Carnegie, Esquire, who had resigned to accept
office, to wit, the office of Distributor of Law Stamps at Osgoode Hall, Robert
Mercer Mason, Esquire, has been returned as duly elected, as appears by the
Return to the said Writ of Election, dated the tenth of June, 1909, which is
now lodged of record in my office.
ARTHUR H. SYDERE,
Toronto, 31st December, 1909. Clerk, Legislative Assembly.
Ex officio Clerk of the Crown in Chancery.
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
THIS is TO CERTIFY that in virtue of a Writ of Election, dated the ninth
day of November, 1909, issued by His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor, and
addressed to Robert Hutchinson, Esquire, Returning Officer for the Electoral
District of North Middlesex, for the election of a Member to represent the said
25TH JANUARY. 1910
Electoral District of North Middlesex in the Legislative Assembly of this Pro-
vince, in the room of Duncan Campbell Koss, Esquire, who had resigned, James
William Doyle, Esquire, has been returned as duly elected, as appears by the
Eeturn to the said Writ of Election, dated the tenth day of December, 1909,
which is now lodged of record in my office.
ARTHUR H. SYDERE,
Toronto, 31st December, 1909. Clerk, Legislative Assembly.
Ex officio Clerk of the Crown in Chancery.
Robert Mercer Mason, Esquire, Member for the Electoral Division of East
Victoria, and James William Doyle, Esquire, Member for the Electoral Division
of North Middlesex, having taken the Oaths and subscribed the Boll, took their
seats.
The House then adjourned during pleasure.
And after some time the House resumed.
His Honour John Morison Gibson, K.C., LL.D., &c., &c., &c., Lieutenant-
Governor of the Province, then entered the House and being seated in the Chair
on the Throne, was pleased to open the Session by the following gracious Speech
to the House: —
Mr. Speaker and Gentlemen of the Legislative Assembly.
I am glad to meet you again as the representatives of the people of
Ontario at the opening of another session of the Legislature.
Our thanks are due to Almighty God for another bountiful harvest, and
for the general prosperity of our people.
It afforded me great pleasure to take part in the welcome accorded, under
the auspices of my Ministers, to Sir Lomer Gouin, Prime Minister of the
Province of Quebec, a few weeks ago, as an acknowledgment of and return
for the gracious and generous hospitality of which the First Minister of
my Government was the recipient in the City of Quebec on the occasion of
the celebration of the founding of that city by Champlain and the nationaliza-
tion of the Quebec battlefields. Such visits cannot fail to result in strength-
ening the bonds of mutual affection which should and do exist between all the
Provinces of the Dominion.
Edw. VII. 25TH JANUARY.
You will be glad to know that substantial progress has already been made
in the restoration of the legislative library, which was destroyed by fire some
months ago. In this connection we have to acknowledge the prompt and
generous assistance accorded by the Governments of the Dominion, and of
all the different Provinces of Canada, as well as the Government of the United
States, in replacing important public records that were lost. It is the inten-
tion, also, of His Majesty's Imperial Government to aid in the same way.
You will be asked to give a formal expression of thanks of the Legislature for
the valuable assistance thus freely afforded by these Governments, as well as
by several private donors.
By making advantageous contracts with the publishers, my Government
has been able greatly to reduce the price of text-books in the schools of the
Province. Adopting the principle of open competition wherever possible in
awarding contracts, text-books of the best modern character, both in respect
to contents and mechanical production, have been obtained. The public school
reading books may now be purchased by parents for their children at one-
third of the previous price, and there are corresponding decreases in the cost
of other public school and high school text-books.
The expansion of the mineral industry goes on apace, the revenue derived
therefrom in the ten months preceding the 31st of October, 1909, amounting
to about one million dollars. The output of silver from the mines of Cobalt
has placed this Province third among the silver-producing communities, and
the Sudbury nickel mines now yield the bulk of the world's supply of this metal.
During the past year discoveries of gold have been made in Northern Ontario,
and the prospects are said to be very favourable. It is becoming more and
more apparent that in Northern Ontario there is a vast store of mineral wealth
yet largely undeveloped.
During the fiscal year (ten months) ending 31st October, 1909, the
Temiskaming & Northern Ontario Railway transported, without accident,
580,948 passengers, and the total net earning of the railway for the same
period amounted to the sum of $692,407. There is good ground for the belief
that there are no better farm lands in Canada than in the clay belt of Ontario,
where millions of acres lie waiting the settler. During the past year quantities
of hay, oats and vegetables have been raised and shipped by the provincial
railway,- which in turn has brought in large numbers of agricultural imple-
ments, such as reapers, mowers, ploughs, threshing outfits, etc.
The provincial yield of agricultural products for the year was a fairly
good one, and prices were higher than for many years past. The quality of
dairy produce was never so good, and in this we now see some of the results
of the efforts put forth and instruction provided by the Department of Agri-
culture. The attendance at the Agricultural College has increased, and the
wisdom of the additional appropriation for the Winter Fair at Guelph has
been made clear by the increase in the attendance and the number of exhibits
The work of the district representatives of the Agricultural Department assigned
to a number of counties in the Province brings the question of instruction
directly home to the farmer and is highly appreciated by the people. Durinc
25TH JANUARY. 1910
the recess preparations have been in progress for making renewed and additional
efforts to induce the immigration of farm labourers and domestic servants. A
provincial agent has been appointed at London, where valuable office premises
have been engaged, and prospects are good for the coming year.
The Commission appointed several months ago by my Government to
enquire into the existing conditions and methods whereby milk is now being
produced, cared for and supplied to the people of the Province for domestic
consumption and dairying purposes, and to investigate the methods whereby
clean, wholesome, sanitary milk is being successfully supplied to consumers,
has concluded its labours, and the report of the Commission will be laid before
you forthwith.
Considerable progress has been made in carrying out the construction of
the transmission lines required for the distribution of electric power to the
various municipalities that entered into agreement wth the Hydro-Electric
Commission for supplies of power. Efforts have in the meantime been made
by petitions in that behalf, and otherwse, to secure disallowance of the legisla-
tion of last session passed at the request of municipalities interested, having
for its object confirmation of the contracts entered into between the municipali-
ties and the Commission. The answer of the Province to these petitions, for-
warded on 7th December, 1909, firmly resisted interference with legislation
clearly within the limit of Provincial jurisdiction, but up to the present time
my Government has received no information as to a decision by the Dominion
Government.
The remarkable and continuous advance in the price of foodstuffs and of
many articles of household use, has attracted and certainly merits public atten-
tion. It has already caused hardship in many households and promises to add
grievously to the burden of living, especially in our cities and towns, except
in the cases of people of large incomes. It would seem that prompt and thor-
ough enquiry is necessary with a view to the possible suggestion of a remedy.
Obviously this condition of affairs, affecting the people of the Dominion of
Canada as a whole, comes within the purview of the Dominion Government and
Parliament, and it is to be hoped that such enquiry will be instituted.
A satisfactory site near the City of Guelph for the new Central Prison
has been secured, and the work of construction will be commenced in due course.
The work of revision of the Statutes has been proceeded with as rapidly
as regard for the important nature of the work will allow, and it is hoped will
be finished during the coming year. A large number of the revised Acts will
be laid before you for your approval.
The Special Committee appointed at the last Session of the Legislature,
to whom the second report of the Standing Committee on Municipal Law
adopted by the House on the Second day of April last, and the several Bills
to amend the Assessment Act mentioned therein, were referred, with instruc-
tions to meet and consider the same during the recess, has made a report which
will be presented to you for your consideration, together with a Bill founded
thereon.
Edw. VII. 25TH JANUARY.
Bills amending several Statutes of a public nature will be laid before you.
My Ministers have had under consideration the desirability of further
legislation with reference to compensation of injuries to workmen. A Com-
mission will be issued having for its object an enquiry into the working of such
legislation elsewhere, with a view to an enactment dealing with this very im-
portant subject, and having due regard to the conditions which surround it
here.
It affords me pleasure to inform you that the revenues of the Province
are considerably in excess of the estimates.
The Public Accounts will be laid before you for your consideration at the
earliest moment, and the Supplementary Estimates for the current year will
also be submitted for your approval at an early date.
I feel assured that you will give careful consideration to the various sub-
jects which will come before you, and I trust that the best interests and wel-
fare of this great Province will be served by your deliberations.
His Honour the Lieutcnant-Governor was then pleased to retire.
Mr. Speaker then reported, That to prevent mistakes, he had obtained a
copy of His Honour's Speech, which he read.
On motion of Sir James Whitney, seconded by Mr. Foy,
Ordered, That the Speech of His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor, to this
House, be taken into consideration To-morrow.
On motion of Sir James Whitney, seconded by Mr. Foy,
Resolved, That Select Standing Committees of this House, for the present
Session, be appointed for the following purposes: — 1. On Privileges and Elec-
tions ; 2. On Railways ; 3. On Miscellaneous Private Bills ; 4. On Standing
Orders; 5. On Public Accounts; 6. On Printing; 1. On Municipal Law; 8.
On Legal Bills; 9. On Agriculture and Colonization, and 10. On Fish and
Game; which said Committees shall severally be empowered to examine and
enquire into all such matters and things as shall be referred to them by the
House, and to report from time to time their observations and opinions thereon,
with power to send for persons, papers and records.
25TH JANUARY. 1910
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 108), intituled "An Act respecting the Lieutenant-G-overnor
and His Deputies." Sir James Whitney.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 103), intituled "An Act respecting the Territorial Division of
Ontario for Municipal and Judicial purposes." Sir James Whitney.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 100), intituled " An Act respecting the Fees of certain Public
Officers." Mr. Toy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 104), intituled "An Act respecting Police Magistrates." Mr.
Toy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 107"), intituled "An Act respecting Procedure before Justices
of the Peace and Summary Convictions." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 109), intituled "An Act respecting Appeals to His Majesty
in His Privy Council." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 110), intituled "An Act respecting the Supreme Court of
Canada and the Exchequer Court of Canada." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. Ill), intituled "An Act respecting the Judges of the Supreme
Court of Judicature for Ontario." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 113), intituled " An Act respecting Disputes concerning Bound-
ary Lines." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Edw. VII. 25TH JANUARY.
Bill (No. 114), intituled " An Act to authorize Police Constables to take
Bail." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 115), intituled " An Act respecting the Expenses of the Admin-
istration of Justice." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 116), intituled " An Act respecting the Division Courts." Mr.
Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 117), intituled "An Act respecting the Legal Meaning of Ex-
pressions relative to Time." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 118), intituled "An Act respecting Justices of the Peace."
Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 119), intituled "An Act respecting Constables." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 120), intituled "An Act to provide for the payment of Wit-
nesses of the Crown." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 121), intituled " An Act respecting Powers of Attorney." Mr.
Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
to
Bill (No. 122), intituled "An Act respecting the Law of England in
certain matters." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
10 25TH JANUARY. 1910
Bill (No. 123), intituled " An Act respecting the rights of Aliens in
relation to Eeal Property." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the 'second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 125), intituled "An Act to provide for the better Government
of that part of Ontario, situated in the vicinity of the Falls of Niagara." Mr.
Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 126), intituled "An Act respecting Petty Trespasses." Mr.
Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 127), intituled "An Act respecting Short Forms of Convey-
ances." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 128), intituled "An Act respecting Short Forms of Leases."
Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 129), intituled " An Act respecting Short Forms of Mortgages."
Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 130), intituled "An Act respecting the Surrogate Courts."
Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 131), intituled "An Act respecting Vendors and Purchasers
and to simplify Titles." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That jthe Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 132), intituled "An Act respecting Estreats." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Edw. Vll . 25TH AND 26TH JANUARY. 11
Bill (No. 133), intituled " An Act to amend the Mercantile Law." Mr.
Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill he read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 134), intituled " An Act respecting Mortgages of Eeal Estate."
Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 136), intituled "An Act to restrain the Accumulation of the
Profits or Produce of Keal or Personal Estate." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 140), intituled "An Act respecting the County Courts and
District Courts." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 142), intituled " An Act respecting the Registration of Partner-
ships." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-mor
Bill (No. 143), intituled "An Act respecting Limited Partnerships."
Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The House then adjourned at 4 p.m.
Wednesday, 26th January, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK P.M.
Mr. Speaker informed the House: That the Clerk had laid upon the
Table:—
A Supplementary Return from the Record of the several Elections in the
Electoral Divisions of East Victoria and North Middlesex subsequent to the
General Elections of June 8th, 1908, shewing:
12 26TH JANUARY. 1910
(1) The number of Votes Polled for each Candidate in each Electoral Dis-
trict in which there was a contest ;
(2) The majority whereby each successful Candidate was returned;
(3) The total number of Votes Polled;
(4) The number of Votes remaining Unpolled ;
(5) The number of names on the Polling Lists ;
(6) The number of Ballot Papers sent out to each Polling Place ;
(T) The Used Ballot Papers;
(8) The Unused Ballot Papers ;
(9) The Kejected Ballot Papers ;
(10) The Cancelled Ballot Papers ;
(11) The Declined Ballot Papers ; and
(12) The Ballot Papers taken from Polling Places. (Sessional Papers
No. 50.)
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Mr. Matheson, the Petition of the Town Council of Smith's Falls;
also, the Petition of Township Council of Burgess.
By Mr. McNaught, the Petition of the Toronto General Burying Grounds ;
also, the Petition of the Toronto General Trusts Company, Charles Northcote
and others; also, the Petition of the Western Central Eailway Company.
By Mr. Thompson (Simcoe), two Petitions of the Town Council of Barrie;
also, the Petition of the Township Council of Sunnidale.
By Mr. Lackner, the Petition of the Town Council of Berlin.
By Mr. Grigg, the Petition of the Bruce Mines and Algoma Railway Com-
pany.
By Mr. Nesbitt, the Petition of the Town Council of Campbellford.
Edw. V1L 26TH JANUARY. 13
By Mr. Shaw, the Petition of the Union Trust Company.
By Mr. McPherson, the Petition of Charles M. Garvey and others of
Toronto; also, the Petition of Lester McDonnell Coulter of Toronto.
•
By Mr. Carscallen, the Petition of the Town Council of Napanee.
By Mr. Jessop, the Petition of the Town Council of Niagara; also, the
Petition of Henry Winnett of Toronto; also, the Petition of the City Council
of St. Catharines.
By Mr. Hearst, the Petition of J. R. Booth and others of Ottawa ; also, the
Petition of Donald D. Mann and others of Toronto.
By Mr. C alder, the Petition of the Town Council of Oshawa.
By Mr. Fripp, the Petition of the Ottawa Young Men's Christian Associa-
tion.
By Mr. Tudhope, the Petition of the Town Council of Penetanguishene.
By Mr. Ross, the Petition of the People's Railway Company.
By Mr. Bradburn, the Petition of the City Council of Peterborough.
By Mr. Macdiarmid, the Petition of the St. Thomas Cemetery Company.
By Mr. Carrick, the Petition of the Municipality of Shuniah.
By Mr. McKeown, the Petition of the Town Council of Thornbury.
By Mr. Preston (Durham), the Petition of the Town Council of Port
Hope.
By Mr. Mason, the Petition of the Township Council of Verulam; also,
the Petition of the Township Council of Emily ; also, two Petitions of the Town-
ship Council of Stanhope ; also, the Petition of the Township Council of Bexley.
Mr. Lennox moved, seconded by Mr. Grigg,
That an humble Address be presented to His Honour the Lieutenant-
Governor of Ontario, as follows : —
To His Honour John M orison Gibson, K.C., LL.D., etc., etc., etc., Lieutenant-
Governor of the Province of Ontario.
26TH JANUARY. 1910
We, His Majesty's most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Legislative Assem-
bly of the Province of Ontario, now assembled, beg leave to thank Your
Honour for the gracious Speech Your Honour has addressed to us.
And the Motion, having been put, was carried and it was
Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to His Honour the Lieu-
tenant-Governor of Ontario, as follows: —
To His Honour John Morison Gibson, K.C., LL.D., etc., etc., etc., Lieutenant-
Governor of the Province of Ontario.
We, His Majesty's most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Legislative Assem-
bly of the Province of Ontario, now assembled, beg leave to thank Your
Honour for the gracious speech Your Honour has addressed to us.
The Address, having been read the second time, was agreed to.
Ordered, That the Address be engrossed and presented to His Honour the
Lieutenant-Governor by those Members of this House who are Members of the
Executive Council.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 108), Respecting the Lieutenant-Governor and His Deputies.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 103), Respecting the Territorial Division of Ontario for Muni-
cipal and Judicial Purposes.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 100), Respecting the Fees of certain Public Officers.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 104), Respecting Police Magistrates.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 107), Respecting Procedure before Justices of the Peace and
Summary Convictions.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Edw. VII. 26TH JANUARY. « 15
Bill (No. 109), Respecting Appeals to His Majesty in His Privy Council
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 110), Respecting the Supreme Court of Canada and the Ex-
chequer Court of Canada.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. Ill), Respecting the Judges of the Supreme Court of Judica-
ture for Ontario.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 113), Respecting Disputes concerning Boundary Lines.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 114), To authorize Police Constables to take Bail.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 115), Respecting the Expenses of the Administration of Justice.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 116), Respecting the Division Courts.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 117), Respecting the Legal Meaning of Expressions relative
to Time.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 118), Respecting Justices of the Peace.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 119), Respecting Constables.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 120), To provide for the Payment of Witnesses of the Crown.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
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Bill (No. 121), Kespecting Powers of Attorney.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 122), Adopting the Law of England in Certain Matters.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 123), Respecting the Rights of Aliens in relation to Real Pro-
perty.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 125), To provide for the better Government of that part of
Ontario situated in the vicinity of the Falls of Niagara.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 126), Respecting Petty Trespasses.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 127), Respecting Short Forms of Conveyances.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 128), Respecting Short Forms of Leases.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 129), Respecting Short Forms of Mortgages.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 130), Respecting the Surrogate Courts.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 131), Respecting Vendors and Purchasers and to Simplify
Titles.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 132), Respecting Estreats.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 133), To amend the Mercantile Law.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
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Bill (No. 134), Eespecting Mortgage of Keal Estate.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 136), To restrain the Accumulation of the Profits or Produce of
Real or Personal Estate.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 140), Respecting the County Courts and District Courts.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 142), Respecting the Registration of Partnerships.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 143), Respecting Limited Partnerships.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Mr. Matheson presented to the House, by command of His Honour the
Lieutenant-Governor : —
Agreement and Contract with William Briggs, D.D., Book Steward of the
Methodist Church, in connection with the Printing and Binding for the Legis-
lative Assembly of Ontario (Sessional Papers, No. 53.)
Also, Agreement and Contract with E. H. Harcourt Company, Limited,
in connection with the Binding, etc., for the Legislative Assembly of Ontario
(Sessional Papers, No. 54.)
The House then adjourned at 6.15 P.M.
Thursday, 27th January, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK P.M.
Mr. Speaker communicated to the House: —
Report of the Librarian on the state of the Library. (Sessional Papers,
No. 52.)
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The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Mr. Machin, the Petition of the Board of Trade, Kenora ; also, the
Petition of the Town of Keewatin.
By Mr. Stock, the Petition of the Town Council of St. Marys.
By Mr. Wilson, the Petition of Ingersoll Olmsted and others of Hamil-
ton.
Mr. Hanna from the Special Committee appointed at the last Session of
the Legislature to consider Bills numbered 119, 143, 148, 164 and 201 to
amend the Assessment Act and such other amendments as might seem desirable
presented their Report which was read as follows : —
The Committee met on November 23rd, 24th and 25th, holding morning
and afternoon Sessions each day.
Deputations and representatives of varied interests asking for amend-
ments to the Act were heard, among others The Retail Merchants Association,
The Canadian Manufacturers Association, The Canadian Press Association,
The Single Tax Association, The Ontario Municipal Association, Railway,
Express and Telephone Companies and Railway Engineers, Conductors, Fire-
men and Brakemen. The Dominion Grange also sent a large deputation ask-
ing that a heavier tax be imposed on the property of railways either by the
Province or by the municipalities.
The Assessment Commissioners of Toronto, Ottawa and London attended
all the meetings of the Committee and gave the Committee much assistance in
explaining how proposed amendments would work out.
The Committee also had the advantage of the services of Mr. Chisholm,
formerly solicitor for the City of Toronto, who appeared on behalf of the muni-
cipalities.
It is noteworthy in connection with the working out of the business assess-
ment which was substituted in 1905 for the old personal property assessment
that the Secretary of the Ontario Retail Merchants Association stated in his
address before the Committee that the present system was working very satis-
factorily and that the complaints generally came from persons who did not
pay before.
The Committee find that it is generally conceded that the business assess-
ment is preferable to the assessment of personalty.
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The delegates who addressed the Committee on behalf of the Kailway
Engineers, Conductors, Firemen and Brakesmen asking that exemption on in-
come from personal earnings be increased, made out a strong case for special
consideration, but the Committee thought, in view of the increased cost of
living, a general increase in the exemption of the personal earnings of house-
holders and heads of families would meet the case.
The Committee have carefully considered not only the Bills specially
referred to but also the provisions of all Bills proposing amendments to the
present Act since it came into force but which did not reach a third reading.
A number of proposed amendments contained in letters and petitions
were also considered.
Petitions have been received from about 230 municipalities in the Pro-
vince asking for power to tax improvement values at a lower rate than land
values — the difference in the rates in each case to be determined by the munici-
pality.
The Committee think that any such proposal would not be advisable,
believing that the same principle of assessment should apply generally through-
out the Province and should not be left to the will of each municipality.
In this connection is should be borne in mind that under the present Act
buildings are only to be assessed for the amount by which they increase the
value of the land and that the cost has no bearing on the assessment.
The new Act provides for a separate assessment of lands and buildings,
and because of this an impression exists in some quarters that buildings are to
be assessed for their cost.
The present Act only came into force on 1st January, 1905. Since that
time thirty-nine distinct amendments have been made to the Act, the effect
of which has been generally speaking to lessen the burden of taxation where
it could least easily be borne and to increase it in the case of persons best
able to pay. The increase in the exemption on income derived from personal
earnings is a case in point.
When the present Act was passed a householder in a city or town of
10,000 or over was exempt on $1,000 and in other municipalities on $700.
In 1906 the exemption of $1,000 was extended to cities and towns of
5,000 or over not only in the case of a householder but of the head of a family
occupying part of a house.
The exemption of $700 in other municipalities was not raised but was
granted to the head of a family as well as a householder. In addition the
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income from investments, etc., up to $300 was declared exempt if the total
income from all sources did not exceed $300.
In 1908 the exemption of $1,000 was. extended to all cities and towns;
it is now proposed to increase this exemption from $1,000 to $1,200 in cities
and towns and from $700 to $900 in other municipalities in the case of a
householder or the head of a family.
The minimum business assessment is another point worthy of notice.
Under the Act as passed it was provided that if a person was liable for busi-
ness assessment on a less sum than $250.00 his business assessment should
notwithstanding be $250.00.
In 1906 an amendment was made by which if a person is liable for less
than $250.00 he is only to be assessed for $100.00.
As examples of increases in assessment the change made in 1907 as to
the assessment of oil and gas wells might be cited. It was provided that the
minimum assessment of each oil or gas well operated at any time during the
year was to be $20. It was also provided that where petroleum mineral
rights are reserved in any deed of land such mineral rights should be assessed
at their actual value. The property of companies transmitting oil or gas by
pipe line are now to be assessed as a going concern ; the part in each munici-
pality being assessed at its value as an integral pjirt of the whole. This forms
an important change in the law because before the amendment the property
of such companies could only be assessed as scrap.
In conclusion the Committee recommend that Amendments be made to the
Assessment Act for the following purposes :—
1. That it be made clear that dividends on shares in banks, trust or
loan companies, insurance, railway, telegraph or telephone companies or
any companies having rights or powers upon public highways are assess-
able.
2. That all clubs in which meals or spirituous or fermented liquors
are sold or furnished should be subject to business assessment whether
or not they are carried on for profit or gain and whether or not any
dividends are paid, the intention being that all such clubs should be
deemed to be carrying on a business so as to be liable to business assess-
ment.
3. That colleges and incorporated seminaries of learning which are
carried on solely and only for profit and gain should not be exempted from
assessment as at present.
Edw. VII. 27TH JANUARY. 21
4. That the exemption on income from personal earnings or from any
pension, gratuity, or retiring allowance in respect of personal services
in the case of a householder or head of a family who occupies with his
family any portion of a dwelling house be increased from $1,000 to
$1,200 in a city or town, and from $700 to $900 in other municipalities.
5. That an express company should be liable to business assessment
whether or not the building is occupied or used mainly for the purpose
of the express business.
6. That the owner of a flour mill having an average daily output of
fifty barrels or under should be liable to a business assessment of 35 per
cent, and should not be classed as a manufacturer so as to be liable to
60 per cent.
7. That a publisher of a newspaper should be liable to a business assess-
ment of 35 per cent, in a city and 25 per cent, in all other municipalities.
8. That structures, pipes, poles, wires or other property erected or
placed upon any highway forming the boundary line between two local
municipalities should be assessed in each municipality for one half the
amount assessable in both municipalities taken together.
9. That the county judge be given power under section 39 of the Act
relating to the assessment of farm lands in towns and villages to settle
the extent of the exemption of such lands where the municipal council
has refused or neglected to pass a by-law as required by that section.
10. That section 40 of the Act providing for the assessment of vacant
grounds used for a farm, garden or nursery in cities, towns or villages
should be repealed as its provisions are partly covered by section 39, and for
all other purposes not covered by section 39 such ground should be assessed
as other lands in the municipality.
11. That power should be given to the Court of Revision and the county
judge or the Railway and Municipal Board to determine not only the
amount of the assessment but also as to whether any person has been
legally assessed or exempt from assessment under the Act.
12. That the Court of Revision should have power to remit a portion
of the business tax where the person assessed has not carried on business
for the whole year.
13. That local municipalities be required to pay over to the county
treasurer on the 20th day of December all moneys required to be levied
for county purposes.
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14. That where a fine is imposed for a contravention of any provision
of the Act it should be recoverable under " The Summary Convictions Act "
and not in any Court of competent jurisdiction as the Act now provides,
15. That section 168 providing for the registration of a tax deed should
be repealed is it is to the same effect as section 90 of " The Registry Act."
16. That sections 169 and 170 dealing with the registration of tax
deeds prior to 1866 should be left unconsolidated and unrepealed as they
are of no further service.
17. That subsection 1 of section 3 of the old " Manhood Suffrage Regis-
tration Act/7 providing that no assessor or assessment commissioner for a
city or town to which that Act applied should enter on the Roll the name
of any person not liable to assessment for taxes, should form part of the
Assessment Act.
18. That section 3 of " The Statute Labour Act " should be amended to
exempt from statute labour an island in a river as well as an island in
a lake if no statute labour is done on the island.
19. That section 76 providing for appeals where large amounts are
involved should be repealed and a new section substituted, as under sec-
tion 51 of the " Railway and Municipal Board Act, 1906," the appeal is
now to the Ontario Railway and Municipal Board.
The Committee have prepared a Bill to carry into effect its recom-
mendations.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time:—
Bill (No. 137), intituled "An Act respecting Wills." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 138), intituled "An Act respecting the Assurance of Estates
Tail." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 139), intituled "An Act for Quieting Titles to Real Estate."
Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Edw. VII. 27TH JANUARY. 23
Bill (No. 147), intituled "An Act respecting Contracts in relation to
Goods in the Possession of Agents and Others." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 148), intituled "An Act respecting Commissioners of Police
appointed by the Government of Canada." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 102), intituled "An Act to establish Forest Reserves." Mr.
Cochrane.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 112), intituled "An Act respecting the Bureau of Labour."
Mr. Reaume.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 158) intituled "An Act respecting < The Public Works ol On-
tario.' ' Mr. Reaume.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 101), intituled "An Act respecting Riots near Public Works."
Mr. Reaume.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 146), intituled "An Act respecting Liens of Mechanics, Wage-
earners and Others." Mr. Reaume.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 157), intituled "An Act respecting the Clergy Reserves and
the Upper Canada Grammar School Lands." Mr. Matheson.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 108),
Respecting the Lieutenant-Governor and His Deputies, and after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville)
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any
amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
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The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 110),
Respecting the Supreme Court of Canada and the Exchequer Court of Canada,
and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr.
Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report
the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 113),
Respecting Disputes concerning Boundary Lines, and after some time spent
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) re-
ported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any
amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
I
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 114)^
To authorize Police Constables to take Bail, and after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
f
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 117),
Respecting the Legal Meaning of Expressions relative to Time, and after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Gren-
ville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without
any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 120),
To provide for the Payment of Witnesses of the Crown, and after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville)
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any
amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 121),
Respecting Powers of Attorney, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Commit-
tee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
Edw. VII. 27TH JANUARY. 25
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 122),
Adopting the Law of England in Certain Matters, and after some time spent
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville), re-
ported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any
amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 123),
Respecting the Rights of Aliens in Relation to Real Property, and after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Gren-
ville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without
any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 127),
Respecting Short Forms of Mortgages, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 128),
Respecting Short Forms of Leases, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 132),
Respecting Estreats, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed
the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee had
directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 136),
To restrain the Accumulation of the Profits or Produce of Real or Personal
Estate, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and
Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed -him to
. report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 103),
Respecting the Territorial Division of Ontario for Municipal and Judicial
Purposes, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair;
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and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed him
to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 104),
Respecting Police Magistrates, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 109),
Respecting Appeals to His Majesty in His Privy Council, and after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville)
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any
amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 115),
Respecting the Expenses of the Administration of Justice, and after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville)
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any
amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 129V
Respecting Short Forms of Mortgages, and after some time spent therein Mi.
Speaker resumed the Chair, and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. i'34),
Respecting Mortgage of Real Estate, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 118),
Respecting Justices of the Peace, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
Edw. Vll. 27TH JANUARY. 27
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 131),
Respecting Vendors and Purchasers and to Simplify Titles, and after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Gren-
ville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without
any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House by command of His Honour the Lieu-
tenant-Governor : —
Copies of Regulations and Orders in Council made pursuant to the pro-
visions of 6 Edward VII., Cap. 52, Section 7, — Education Department — since
the last Session of the Legislature. (Sessional Papers, No. 56.)
Also — The Public Accounts of the Province of Ontario for the Ten Months
ended 31st October, 1909. (Sessional Papers, No. 1.)
Also — Statement of the Auditor made pursuant to the provisions of Sec-
tion 13, Sub-section 2, of the Audit Act as amended by Section 6, Chapter 10,
9 Edward VII. (Sessional Papers, No. 57.)
Also — Report of the Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Railway Com-
mission for the year ended October 31st, 1909 (Ten months). (Sessional
Papers, No. 47.)
Also — Report of the University of Toronto Board of Governors, for the
year ending 30th June, 1909. (Sessional Papers, No. 17.)
Also — Return to an Order of the House of the Thirtieth day of March,
1009, for a Return shewing, during the past twelve months all permits to effect
insurance in foreign unregistered Corporations, Insurers or Underwriters issued
by the Insurance "Registrar, under Section S6a, of the Ontario Insurance Act
as amended by 2 Edward VII., Cap. 12, and 4 Edward VII., Cap. 15, and
of all letters and applications in respect of which such permits were issued.
(Sessional Papers, No. 58.)
On motion of Mr. Matheson, seconded by Mr. Pyne,
Ordered, That the Public Accounts of the Province for the ten months
ending 31st October, 1909, be referred to the Standing Committee on Public
Accounts.
The House then adjourned at 4.45 P.M.
28TH JANUARY. 1910
Friday, 28th January, 1910.
PRAYEKS. 3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table :—
By Mr. Preston (Lanark), the Petition of the Township Council of Ram-
say.
By Mr. Wilson, the Petition of Ingersoll Olmsted and others of Ham-
ton.
By Mr. Jessop, the Petition of the City Council of St. Catharines.
The following Petitions were read and received : —
Of the Town Council of Barrie, praying that an Act may pass to ratify
and confirm a certain By-law and agreement relating to the Barrie Tanning
Company, Limited.
Of the Town Council of Barrie, praying that an Act may pass to ratify
and confirm certain agreements and By-law No. 662, based thereon, re exemp-
tion from taxation of the Canada Producer and Gas Company.
Of the Town Council of Berlin, praying that an Act rnay pass to in-
corporate the Town as a City.
Of the Bruce Mines and Algoma Railway Company, praying that an
Act may pass to extend the time for construction and completion of the road
and for other purposes.
Of the Town Council of Campbellford, praying that an Act may pass
to ratify and confirm By-law No. 502, fixing the assessment of the Trent
Valley Woolen Manufacturing Company, Limited.
Of the Union Trust Company, praying that an Act may pass authoriz-
ing the Company as Administrators of the Estate of Blanche Eleanor Leslie,
deceased, to lease certain lands for term of twenty-one years.
Of Charles M. Garvey and others of Toronto praying that an Act rnay
pass to incorporate the Monarch Railway Company.
Of the Town Council of Napanee, praying that an Act may pass to
ratify and confirm a certain By-law authorizing the Corporation to enter
into an Agreement with the Napanee Water Works Company.
Edw. VII. 28TH JANUARY. 29
Of the Town Council of Niagara ; also, of Henry Winnett of Toronto,
praying that an Act may pass to ratify and donfirm a certain By-law fixing
the Assessment upon property of Henry Winnett.
Of J. R. Booth and others of Ottawa, praying that an Act may pass to
incorporate the Nickel Range Railway Company.
Of the Town Council of Oshawa, praying that an Act may pass declar-
ing that the Buildings of the Oshawa Y. M. C. A. and the land whereon
erected, he exempt from taxation except for local improvements.
Of the Ottawa Young Men's Christian Association, praying that an Act
may pass amending their Act of incorporation, by extension of powers to hold
real estate.
Of the Town Council of Penetanguishene, praying that an Act may pass
empowering the Corporation, to raise by sale of Debentures the sum of $24,-
220.00 to pay off existing floating debt and for other purposes.
Of the People's Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass em-
powering the Company to extend their line.
Of the City Council of Peterborough, praying that an Act may pass
to ratify and confirm certain By-laws; to amend Act respecting and for other
purposes.
Of the City Council of St. Catharines, praying that an Act may pass to
ratify and confirm By-law No. 2106 and a certain Agreement between the
Corporation and the Canadian Crocker Wheeler Company Limited.
Of the St. Thomas Cemetery Company, praying that an Act may pass
to authorize and empower the Company to purchase and acquire lands for
Cemetery use and for other purposes.
Of the Municipality of Shuniah, praying that an Act may pass to vali-
date and confirm all Tax Sales and tax sale proceedings ; to amend Act incor-
porating and for other purposes.
Of the Town Council of Thornbury, praying that an Act may pass to
ratify and confirm By-law No. 9, 1909, and for other purposes.
Of the Trustees of the Toronto General Burying Grounds, praying that
an Act may pass authorizing them to sell and convey any lands owned by
them and not required for burial purposes; to authorize the investment of
funds and for other purposes.
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Of the Toronto General Trusts Company ; Charles Northcote and others,
praying that an Act may pass declaring that Chapter 150 of 53 ^7ictoria was
intended to affect the rights of and be binding upon those persons who would
be entitled to the lands in the Act referred to if Charles Northcote were to
die intestate.
Of Donald D. Mann and others of Toronto, praying that an Act may
pass to incorporate the Wahnapitae Railway Company.
Of the Town Council of Port Hope, praying that an Act may pass
authorizing the Corporation to issue Debentures to the amount of $25,000
towards construction and repair of streets and roads.
Of Lester McDonnell Coulter of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass
authorizing him to practice as a Physician and Surgeon in Ontario.
Of the Western Central Railway Company, praying that an Act may
pass authorizing its guarantee of the securities of other Companies; the issue
of its bonds over acquired railways and for other purposes.
Of the Township Council of Stanhope, praying for certain amendments
to the Land Location Act.
Of the Town Council of Smith's Falls; also, of the Township Council
of Burgess; also, of the Township Council of Sunnidale; also, of the Town-
ship Council of Verulam; also, of the Township Council of Bexley; also, of
the Township Council of Stanhope; also, of the Township Council of Emily,
severally praying for certain amendments to the Assessment Act.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 135), intituled " An Act respecting the Limitation of Actions."
Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 141), intituled "An Act respecting Assignments and Prefer-
ences by Insolvent Persons." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Tuesday next.
Bill (!N~o. 149), intituled "An Act to establish a Provincial Park at Ron-
deau." Mr. Cochrane.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Tuesday next.
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Bill (No. 60), intituled "An Act to Amend the Municipal Act." Mr
Nickle.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Tuesday next.
On motion of Sir James Whitney, seconded by Mr. Foy, it was
Resolved, That a Special Committee of Thirteen Members be appointed to
prepare and report, with all convenient speed, lists of Members to compose the
Select Standing Committees ordered by this House, to be composed as follows:
Messieurs Foy, Matheson, Pyne, Preston (Lanark), Mahaffy, Thompson (Sim-
coe), Hoyle, Clark (Bruce), MacKay (Grey), Bowman, Proudfoot, Stock and
McCart.
On motion of Sir James Whitney, seconded by Mr. Foy, it was
Resolved, That a Select Committee of Eleven Members be appointed to
act with Mr. Speaker in the control and management of the Library, to be
composed as follows: Sir James Whitney and Messieurs Foy, Matheson,
Pyne, Hendrie, Hanna, Lucas, MacKay (Grey), Stock, McDougal, and Kohler.
On motion of Sir James Whitney, seconded by Mr. Foy, it was
Resolved, That a select Committee be appointed to direct the expenditure
of any sum set apart by the Estimates for Art purposes, to be composed as fol-
lows: Mr. Speaker, Sir James Whitney, and Messieurs Foy, Matheson, Hen-
drie, McKay (Oxford), Elliott, and Reed (Wentworth.)
On motion of Mr. Matheson, seconded by Mr. Pyne, it was
Resolved, That this House receives with much satisfaction the intelligence
of the munificent donations which have been made in aid of the reconstruction
of the Legislative Library by the Governments and Governmental Departments
of Canada, the several Canadian Provinces and the United States, and by the
ladies and gentlemen whose names appear in the Report which has boon laid
before the House ; and this the House hereby extends its grateful thanks to the
donors. That this House acknowledges with gratitude the prompt and genorous
action of the Governors of the University of Toronto in placing the house
No. 4, Queen's Park at the service of the Government for the temporary use of
the Library.
On motion of Mr. Proudfoot, seconded by Mr. McCormick,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Return :
1. Showing the number of licenses granted to Fishermen in each of the
following Districts in the years 1908 and 1909: (a) Lake Superior. (M The
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Northern Channel of Lake Huron, (c) Georgian Bay. (d) Lake Huron
and Lake St. Clair. (e) Lake Erie and Grand Eiver. (f) Bivers St. Clair,
Thames and Detroit, and (g) Lake Ontario and Bay of Quinte.
2. The kind of license granted to each Fisherman.
3. The cost of licenses to each Fisherman of each of the above Districts.
Sir James Whitney delivered to Mr. Speaker a Message from the Lieu-
tenant-Governor, signed by himself ; and the said Message was read by Mr.
Speaker, and is as follows: —
J. M. GIBSON.
The Lieutenant-Governor transmits Estimates of certain sums required
for the service of the Province, until the Estimates for the year 1910 are
finally passed, and recommends them to the Legislative Assembly.
GOVERNMENT HOUSE,
Toronto, January 27th, 1910.
(Sessional Papers, No. 2.)
Ordered, That the Message of the Lieutenant-Governor, together with
the Estimates accompanying same, be referred to the Committee of Supply.
On motion of Mr. Matheson, seconded by Mr. Pyne,
Resolved, That this House will, To-day, resolve itself into the Committee
of Supply.
Resolved, That this House will, To-day, resolve itself into the Committee
of Wavs and Means.
The House, according to Order, then resolved itself into the Committee of
Supply.
Edw. VII. 28TH JANUARY.
33
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four hundred and seventy-eight
thousand dollars ($478,000) be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses
of the Civil Government and for other purposes (as mentioned in the state-
ment accompanying the Message of the Lieutenant-Governor to this House).
Such expenditures to be confined to the ordinary necessary payments for the
different services to which they respectively relate, and a detailed statement
of such expenditure to be laid before the House before the second reading of
the Appropriation Act and the details of the said several services to be in-
cluded in the detailed Estimates to be brought down to this House, as though
the Resolution had not passed.
Mr. Speaker resumed the chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported.
That the Committee had come to a resolution; also, that the Committee had
directed him to ask for leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Keport be received forthwith.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again on Tuesday next.
Mr. Ferguson (Grenville), from the Committee of Supply, reported a
Kesolution, which was read as follows: —
Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four hundred and seventy-eight
thousand dollars ($478,000), be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses
of the Civil Government and for other purposes (as mentioned in the state-
ment accompanying the Message of the Lieutenant-Governor to this House).
Such expenditures to be confined to the ordinary necessary payments for the
different services to which they respectively relate, and a detailed statement
of such expenditures to be laid before the House, before the second reading of
the Appropriation Act and the details of the said several services to be included
in the detailed Estimates, to be brought down to this House, as though the
Resolution had not been passed.
The Resolution having been read the second time, was agreed to.
The House, according to Order, then resolved itself into the Committee of
Ways and Means.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That there be granted out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund
of this Province a sum not exceeding Four hundred and seventy-eight thousand
dollars ($478,000), to meet the supply to that extent granted to His Majesty.
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Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported,
That the Committee has come to a Resolution; also, that the Committee had
directed him to ask for leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received forthwith.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again on Tuesday next.
Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) from the Committee on Ways and Means, re-
ported a Resolution, which was read as follows: —
Resolved, That there be granted out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund of
this Province a sum not exceeding Four hundred and seventy-eight thousand
dollars ($478,000), to meet the supply to that extent granted to His Majesty.
The Resolution having been read the second time, was agreed to.
The following Bills were severally read the second time: —
Bill (No. 137), Respecting Wills.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 138), Respecting the Assurance of Estates Tail.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next
Bill (No. 139), For Quieting Titles to Real Estate.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 147), Respecting Contracts in relation to goods in the posses-
sion of agents and others.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 148), Respecting Commissioners of Police appointed by the
Government of Canada.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 102), To establish Forest Reserves.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 112), Respecting the Bureau of Labour.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
Edw. VII. 28TH JANUARY. 35
Bill (No. 158), The Public Works Act of Ontario.
Eeferred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 101), Kespecting Riots near Public Works.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 146), Respecting Liens of Mechanics, Wage-earners and others.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 157), Respecting the Clergy Reserves and the Upper Canada
Grammar School Lands.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. Ill),
Respecting the Judges of the Supreme Court of Judicature for Ontario, and
after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Fer-
guson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the
Bill without any amendment.
. Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Tuesday nf-xt.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 125),
To provide for the better Government of that part of Ontario situated in the
vicinity of the Falls of Niagara, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Tuesday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 126),
Respecting Petty Trespasses, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Tuesday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 133),
To amend the Mercantile Law, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Tuesday next.
36 28TH AND 3 IST JANUARY. 1910
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 143),
Respecting Limited Partnerships, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill he read the third time on Tuesday next.
On motion of Mr. Matheson, seconded hy Mr. Pyne, it was
Resolved, That this House doth ratify a certain Agreement and Contract,
hearing date on the Tenth Day of June, 1009, and made by and between
William Briggs, D.D., of Toronto, as Book Steward of the Methodist Church,
of the first part, and Arthur James Matheson, Provincial Treasurer, on behalf
of His Majesty the King, of the second part, in connection with the Printing
and Binding for the Legislative Assembly of Ontario.
On motion of Mr. Matheson, seconded by Mr. Pyne, it was
Resolved, That this House doth ratify a certain Agreement and Contract,
bearing date on the Twenty-fourth day of June, 1909, and made by and between
E. Harcourt Company, Limited, of Toronto, of the first part, and Arthur
James Matheson, Provincial Treasurer, on behalf of His Majesty the King, of
the second part, in connection with the Binding, etc., for the Legislative
Assembly of Ontario.
The House then adjourned at 4 P.M.
Monday, 31st January, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:-
By Mr. ^sTeely, the Petition of the City Council of London,
By Mr. Ross, the Petition of the Dunnville, Wellandport and Beamsville
Electric Railway.
By Mr. Brower, the Petition of the Township Councils of Soutbwold and
Yarmouth.
By Mr. McCowan, the Petition of the Village Council of Richmond Hill.
Edw. VII. 31sT JANUARY. 37
By Mr. Smellie, the Petition of the City Council of Fort William.
By Mr. Grigg, the Petition of the Township Council of Hallam ; also, the
Petition of the Township Council of the United Townships of Johnson, Tarbutt
and Tarbutt Additional; also, the Petition of the Township Council of Thes-
salon; also, the Petition of the Township Council of Plummer Additional.
By Mr. Pearce, the Petition of the Township Council of Huntingdon ; also,
the Petition of the Township Council of Rawdon; also, the Petition of the
Township Council of Carlow ; also, the Petition of the Village Council of Ban-
croft.
By Mr. Norman, the Petition of the Township Council of Hillier; also,
the Petition of the Township Council of Ameliasburg.
The following Petitions were read and received: —
Of Ingersoll Olmsted and others of Hamilton, praying that an Act may
pass to incorporate the Hamilton School of Anatomy.
Of the City Council of St. Catharines, praying that an Act may pass to
ratify and Confirm By-law No. 2116 respecting the St. Catharines Woollen
Mills.
Of the Board of Trade of Kenora; also, of the Town Council of Kee-
watin ; also, of the Town Council of St. Mary's; also, of the Township Council
of Ramsay, severally praying for certain amendments to the Assessment Act,
respecting the income tax.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (~No. 152), intituled " An Act respecting the Queen Victoria Niagara
Falls Park." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 105), intituled " An Act respecting Agricultural Societies." Mr.
Duff.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 106), intituled "An Act respecting Horticultural Societies."
Mr. Duff.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 124), intituled " An Act respecting the right of Property in
Swarms of Bees." Mr. Duff.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The House then adjourned at 3.15 P.M.
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Tuesday, 1st February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Sir James Whitney, the Petition of the Township Council of Vespra ;
also, the Petition of the Village Council of Streetsville ; also, the Petition of
the Village Council of Hepworth; also, the Petition of the Township Council
of Ops ; also, the Petition of the Municipality of Emo ; also, the Petition of
the Municipality of Alberton; also, the Petition of the Township Council of
Prince; also, the Petition of the Township Council of Saugeen; also, the
Petition of the Township Council of Thessalon.
By Mr. Gamey, the Petition of William B. Russell and others of Toronto.
By Mr. Machin, the Petition of the Town Council of Kenora.
By Mr. Devitt, the Petition of the Township Council of Cartwright ; also,
the Petition of the Township Council of Darlington.
By Mr. Neely, the Petition of the Monarch Fire Insurance Company;
also, the Petition of the North Midland Railway Company.
By Mr. Caldeiy the Petition of the Township Council of East Whitby;
also, the Petition of the Township Council of Pickering.
By Mr. Pratt, the Petition of the Village Council of Port Rowan; also,
the Petition of the Township Council of North Walsingham.
By Mr. Anderson, the Petition of the County Council of Essex; also, the
Petition of the Township Council of Tilbury West; also, the Petition of the
Township Council of Colchester South ; also, the Petition of the Town Council
of Essex; also, the Petition of the Township Council of Pelee; also, the Peti-
tion of the Township Council of Gosfield North.
By Mr. Proudfoot, the Petition of the Township Council of Hullett.
By Mr. McKeown, the Petition of the County Council of Dufferin.
By Mr. Bradburn, the Petition of the Township Council of Harvey.
By Mr. Reid (Renfrew), the Petition of the County Council of Renfrew;
also, the Petition of the Township Council of the United Townships of Wilber-
force and North Algoma.
By Mr. Torrance, the Petition of the City Council of Stratford; also,
the Petition of the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada.
Edw. V1L IST FEBRUARY.' 39
Mr. Matheson from the Special Committee appointed to prepare and
report, with all convenient speed, Lists of Members to compose the Select Stand-
ing Committees ordered by this House, presented the following Lists as their
Report : —
COMMITTEE ON PRIVILEGES AND ELECTIONS.
Sir James Whitney, Messieurs Bowyer, Bowman, Brewster, Clarke
(Northumberland), Devitt, Duff, Ferguson (Grenville), -Fripp, Foy, Fox,
Gallagher, Galna, Hanna, Jamieson, Jessop, Lackner, Lennox, Lucas, Mac-
diarmid, MacKay (Grey), Mahaffy, Mason, Matheson, McGarry, Nickle, Nor-
man, Paul, Preston (Lanark), Proudfoot, Racine, Shillington, Thompson
(Simcoe), Truax, Tudhope, Whitesides — 36.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of Nine Members.
COMMITTEE ON RAILWAYS.
Sir James Whitney, Messieurs Anderson, Aubin, Beck, Bowman, Carrick,
Charters, Clark (Bruce), Clarke (Northumberland), Cochrane, Downey, Doyle,
Eilber, Elliott. Fisher, Foy, Fraser, Fripp, Gallagher, Galna, Gamey, Godfrey,
Grigs:. Hanna, Hearst, Hendrie, Hoyle, Jamieson, Jessop, Lackner, Lennox,
Macdiarmid, MacKay (Grey), Machin, Mahaffy, Mason, Matheson, Mayberry,
McDonald, McDougal, McEwing, MeGarry, McNaught, McPherson, Neely,
Nesbitt, Nixon, Norman, Pearce, Pratt, Preston (Durham), Preston (Lanark),
Proudfoot, Pyne, Racine, Reaume, Reid (Renfrew), Ross, Shaw, Shillington,
Smellie, Studholme, Thompson (Peterborough), Truax, Tudhope, Whitesides,
Wilson— 67.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of Nine Members.
COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE BILLS.
Sir James Whitney, Messieurs Beck, Bowman, Bradburn, Brewster,
Grower, Calder, Carrick, Carscallen, Clark (Bruce), Clarke (Northumber-
land), Craig, Dargavel, Downey, Duff, Elliott, Ferguson (Grenville), Fisher,
''ox, Foy, Fraser, Fripp, Gallagher, Gamey, Godfrey, Gooderham, Hanna,
[earst, Hendrie, Hoyle, Innes, Jamieson, Jessop, Kohler, Lackner, Lennox,
/ucas, MacKay (Grey), Mahaffy, Matheson, McCart, McCowan, McDougal,
McGarry, McKeown, McNaught, McPherson, Nickle, Pratt, Preston (Dur-
ham), Preston (Lanark), Proudfoot, Racine, Reed (Wentworth), Shaw,
Smellie, Sulman, Thompson (Simcoe), Torrance, Tudhope, Whitesides — 61.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of Nine Members.
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COMMITTEE ON STANDING ORDERS.
Sir James Whitney, Messieurs Anderson, Aubin, Bowyer, Bradburn,
Carrick, Charters, Devitt, Donovan, Doyle, Ferguson (Cardwell), Fisher,
Galna, Godfrey, Griggs, Hoyle, Innes, Johnson, Kohler, Machin, MacKay
(Grey), Mackay (Oxford), Mason, Mayberry, Morel, Musgrove, McCormick,
McCowan, McDonald, McEwing, Nesbitt, Nixon, Norman, Paul, Pharand,
Preston (Lanark), Racine, Reed (Wentworth), Reid (Renfrew), Richardson,
Stock, Studholme, Thompson (Peterborough), Torrance, Truax, Whitesides
—46.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of Seven Members.
i
COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ACCOUNTS.
Sir James Whitney, Messieurs Beck, Bowman, Clark (Bruce), Clarke
(Northumberland), Cochrane, Craig, Dargavel, Doyle, Eilber, Elliott, Fergu-
son (Grenville), Fox, Fraser, Fripp, Gamey, Hanna, Hendrie, Johnson, Mac-
Kay (Grey), Mahaffy, Matheson, Musgrove, McCart, McDougal, McElroy,
McEwing, McGarry, McKeown, Nickle, Pattinson, Preston (Lanark), Preston
(Rainy River), Proudfoot, Racine, Reaume, Shillington, Thompson (Simcoe),
'Tudhope— 39.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of Seven Members.
; COMMITTEE ON MUNICIPAL LAW.
Sir James Whitney, Messieurs Aubin, Beck, Bowman, Bowyer, Bradburn,
Brower, Calder, Carrick, Carscallen, Clark (Bruce), Craig, Dargavel, Devitt,
Duff, Eilber, Elliott, Ferguson (Cardwell), Ferguson (Grenville), Fisher, Fox,
Foy, Fraser, Fripp, Godfrey, Gooderham, Hanna, Hendrie, Hoyle, Jamieson,
Johnson, Kohler, Lackner, Lennox, Macdiarmid, Machin, MacKay (Grey),
Mackay (Oxford), Mahaffy, Matheson, Mayberry, Musgrove, McCart,
McCowan McDonald, McDougal, McElroy, McEwing, McGarry, McKeown,
McNaught, McPherson, Neely, Nickle, Nixon, Pattinson, Pearce, Preston
(Durham), Preston (Rainy River), Pyne, Racine, Reed (Wentworth), Reid
(Renfrew), Shaw, Stock, Studholme, Sulman, Thompson (Simcoe), Truax,
Tudhope, Whitesides — 71.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of Nine Members.
COMMITTEE ON PRINTING.
Messieurs Anderson, Bowyer, Carscallen, Charters, Clarke (Bruce),
Downey, Kohler, Mason, Matheson, Musgrove, McCart, McCormick, Preston
(Lanark), Richardson, Ross, Sulman, Wilson — 17.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of Five Members.
Edw. VII. IST FEBRUARY. 41
COMMITTEE ON LEGAL BILLS.
Sir James Whitney, Messieurs Beck, Brewster, Downey, Elliott, Foy,
Hanna, Hearst, Hendrie, Lucas, Mackay (Grey), Matheson, McDougal,
McKeown, McPherson, Proudfoot, Pyne, Reaume, Thompson (Simcoe) — 19.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of Five Members.
COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE AND COLONIZATION.
Sir James Whitney, Messieurs Bowyer, Brower, Calder, Carscallen,
Cochrane, Dargavel, Devitt, Donovan, Doyle, Duff, Eilber, Ferguson (Card-
well), Fox, Galna, Gamey, Grigg, Jessop, Kohler, Macdiarmid, Mahaffy,
MacKay (Grey), Mackay (Oxford), Mayberry, Morel, McCart, McCormick,
McCowan, McElroy, McEwing, Neely, Nesbitt, Norman, Pattinson, Paul,
Pearce, Pharand, Preston (Durham), Preston (Lanark), Pratt, Eeed (Went-
worth), Eeid (Renfrew), Richardson, Smellie, Stock, Thompson (Peter-
borough), Torrance, Wilson — 48.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of Nine Members.
COMMITTEE ON FISH AND GAME.
Messieurs Aubin, Bradburn, Brower, Bowyer, Bowman, Beck, Clarke
»(JNTorthumberland), Dargavel, Donovan, Duff, Eilber, Ferguson (Grenville),
Galna, Gooderham, Hendrie, Hoyle, MacKay (Grey), Mahaffy, Morel, Mus-
grove, Pratt, Preston (Rainy River), Reaume, Reed (Wentworth), Tudhope
—25.
The Quorum of said Committee to consist of Seven Members.
Resolved, That this House doth concur in the above Report.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 155), intituled " An Act respecting Master and Servant." Mr.
Reaume.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 156), intituled "An Act respecting Councils of Conciliation
and of Arbitration for settling Industrial Disputes." Mr. Reaume.
Ordered, That the Bill be react the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 61), intituled "The Fair Wages and Hours of Labour Regula-
tion Act, 1910." Mr. Studholme.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
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Bill (No. 62), intituled "An Act to prevent the spread of Pulmonary
and other forms of Tuberculosis." Mr. Downey.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 63), intituled " An Act to amend the Municipal Act.'7 Mr.
Brower.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 102),
To establish Forest Reserves, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 112),
Respecting the Bureau of Labour, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 101),
Eespecting Riots near Public Works, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 157),
Respecting the Clergy Reserves and the Upper Canada Grammar School Lands,
and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr.
Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report
the Bill without -any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 137),
Respecting Wills, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the
Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee had
directed him to report the BiH with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Edw. VI 1. IST FEBRUARY. 43
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 138),
Respecting the Assurance of Estates Tail, and after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 139),
For quieting Titles to Real Estate, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 147),
Respecting Contracts in relation to Goods in the possession of agents and others,
and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr.
Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to
report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into .a Committee to consider Bill (No. 148),
Respecting Commissioners of Police appointed by the Government of Canada,
and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr.
Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to re-
port the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 135), Respecting the Limitation of Actions.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 141), Respecting Assignments and Preferences by Insolvent
Persons.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 149), To establish a Provincial Park at Rondeau.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
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Bill (No. 152), Respecting the Queen Victoria Niagara Falls Park.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 105), Respecting Agricultural Societies.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 106), Respecting Horticultural Societies.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 124), Respecting the Right of Property in Swarms of Bees.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Sir James Whitney delivered to Mr. Speaker a Message from the Lieu-
tenant-Governor, signed by himself; and the said Message was read by Mr.
Speaker, and is as follows: —
J. M. GIBSON.
The Lieutenant-Governor transmits Supplementary Estimates of certain
sums required for the service of the Province for the year 1909-1910, and
recommends them to the Legislative Assembly.
GOVERNMENT HOUSE,
Toronto, February 1st, 1910.
|
(Sessional Papers, No. 2.)
Ordered, That the Message of the Lieutenant-Governor, together with
the Estimates accompanying same, be referred to the Committee of Supply.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House, by Command of His Honour the
Lieutenant-Governor : —
Report of the Ontario Railway and Municipal Board for the year 1909.
(Sessional Papers, No. 49.)
The House then adjourned at 4 P.M.
Idw. VI L. 2ND FEBRUARY. 45
Wednesday, 2nd February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:-
By Sir James Whitney, the Petition of the Builders' Labourers' Union
"No. 1, of Toronto.
By Mr. Foy, the Petition of the Builders' Labourers' Union No. 1, of
Toronto.
By Mr. Hendrie, the Petition of the City Council of Hamilton.
By Mr. Carscallen, the Petition of W. A. McCullough and others of
Kichmond.
By Mr. McGarry, the Petition of the Township Council of Kaglan; also,
the Petition of the Township Council of Horton.
By Mr. Charters, the Petition of the Town Council of Brampton.
By Mr. Eoss, the Petition of the Township Council of Wainfleet.
By Mr. Aubin, the Petition of the Township Council of the United
Townships of Batter and Dunnett ; also, the Petition of the Township Council
of Martland; also, the Petition of the Township Council of Springer.
By Mr. McElroy, the Petition of the Township Council of Goulburn.
By Mr. McKeown, the Petition of the County Council of Dufferin.
The following Petitions were read and received:—
Of the Dunnville, Wellandport and Beamsville Electric Kailway, praying
that an Act may pass enabling the Company to extend the line from Jordan
Harbour to the City of St. Catharines.
Of the City Council of Fort William, praying that an Act may pass em-
powering the City to acquire by purchase or otherwise certain lands situate in
the District of Thunder Bay; to ratify and confirm certain By-laws and for
other purposes.
Of the City Council of London, praying that an Act may pass to ratify and
confirm certain By-laws relating to Water Works and for other purposes.
46 2ND FEBRUARY. 1910
Of the Townships Council of South wold and Yarmouth, praying that an
Act may pass to ratify and confirm By-laws Nos. 652 and 780 respectively,
relating to the maintenance of Kain's Hill Eoad.
Of the Township Council of Ameliasburg; also, of the Township Council
of Hillier; also, of the Village Council of Bancroft; also, of the Township
Council of Carlow ; also, of the Township Council of Rawdon ; also, of the Town-
ship Council of Huntingdon; also, of the Village Council of Richmond Hill;
also, of the Township Council of Plummer Additional ; also, of the Townships
of Tarbutt and Tarbutt Additional ; also, of the Township Council of Thessalon ;
also, of the Township Council of Hallam, severally praying for certain amend-
ments to the Assessment Act, respecting the taxation of Farm Buildings.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 144), intituled "An Act respecting Agricultural Associations."
Mr. Duff.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 145), intituled "An Act respecting Mortgages and Sales of
Personal Property." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read. the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 153), intituled "An Act to secure payment of Wages for
labour performed in the Construction of Works." Mr. Reaume.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 154), intituled " An Act respecting Wages." Mr. Reaume.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 64), intituled "An Act to amend the High Schools Act."
Mr. Hearst.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Friday next.
On motion of Mr. Matheson, seconded by Mr. Pyne.
Ordered, That the names of Messieurs Anderson and Norman be added
to the Standing Committee on Fish and Game.
Edw. VII. 2ND FEBRUARY. 47
The following Bills were severally read the second time: —
Bill (No. 155), Respecting Master and Servant.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 156), Respecting Councils of Conciliation and of Arbitration
for settling Industrial Disputes.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 149),
To establish a Provincial Park at Rondeau, and, after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 105),
Respecting Agricultural Societies, and, after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 106),
Respecting Horticultural Societies, and, after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 124),
Respecting the Right of Property in Swarms of Bees, and, after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville)
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any
amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 141),
Respecting Assignments and Preferences by Insolvent Persons, and, after
48 2ND AND 3RD FEBRUARY. 1910
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson
(Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill
without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 152),
Respecting the Queen Victoria Niagara Falls Park, and, after some time spent
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville)
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without
any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 130),
Respecting the Surrogate Courts, and, after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House, by command of His Honour the
Lieutenant-Governor : —
Copies of Orders in Council in accordance with the provisions of S.S. 2
of Section 84 of the Surrogate Courts Act, and S.S. 4 of Section
164 of the Land Titles Act. (Sessional Papers No. 59.)
The House then adjourned at 4 P.M.
Thursday, 3rd February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table :-
By Mr. Macdiarmid, the Petition of the City Council of St. Thomas.
By Mr. Brewster, the Petition of the City Council of Brantford.
By Mr. Tudhope, the Petition of the Township Council of Tay.
Edw. VII. 3RD FEBRUARY. 49
The following Petitions were read and received: —
Of the Town Council of Kenora, praying that an Act may pass authoriz-
ing the Corporation to guarantee the Mortgage Debentures of the Tourist Hotel
Company, Limited, to the amount of $100,000, and to ratify and confirm cer-
tain By-laws.
Of the Monarch Fire Insurance Company, praying that an Act may pass
to ratify and confirm a certain By-law relative to and reducing the Capital
Stock of the Company.
Of the North Midland Eailway Company, praying that an Act may pass
extending the time for commencement and completion of road.
Of the City Council of Stratford ; also, of the Grand Trunk Railway of
Canada, praying that an Act may pass to confirm and declare valid an agree-
ment between the Grand Trunk Eailway of Canada and the Corporation, extend-
ing for ten years, the provisions of an agreement dated 27th February, 1900.
Of William B. Eussel and others of Toronto, praying that an Act may
pass incorporating the Toronto, Haliburton and Pembroke Eailway Company.
Of the Township Council of Vespra; also, of the Village Council of
Streetsville ; also, of the Village Council of Hepworth; also, of the Township
Council of Ops; also, of the Township .Council of Emo; also, of the Township
Council of Alberton; also, of the Township Council of Prince; also, of the
Township Council of Saugeen ; also, of the Township Council of Thessalon ; also,
of the Township Council of Darlington; also, of the Township Council of
Cartwright ; also, of the Township Council of Pickering ; also, of the Township
Council of East Whitby; also, of the Village Council of Port Eowan ; also,
of the Township Council of Walsingham ; also, of the County Council of Essex ;
also, of the Township Council of Tilbury West ; also, of the Township Council
of Colchester South ; also, of the Town Council of Essex ; also, of the Township
Council of Pelee ; also, of the Township Council of Gosfield North ; also, of the
Township Council of Hullett; also, of the Township Council of Harvey; also,
of the County Council of Dufferin ; also, of the County Council of Eenfrew ;
also, of the Township Council of the United Townships of Wilberforce and
North Algoma, severally praying for certain amendments to the Assessment
Act respecting the Taxation of Farm Buildings.
Mr. Hoyle, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented
their First Eeport, which was read as follows and adopted : —
50 3RD FEBRUARY. 1910
The Committee have carefully examined the following Petitions, and find
the Notices as published in each case sufficient:
Of the Town Council of Thornbury, praying that an Act may pass to
ratify and confirm By-Law Number 9, 1909, and for other purposes.
Of the Town Council of Campbellford, praying that an Act may pass
to ratify and confirm By-Law Number 502 fixing the Assessment of the Trent
Valley Woollen Manufacturing Company, Limited.
Of the Town Council of Napanee, praying that an Act may pass to ratify
and confirm a certain By-Law authorizing the Corporation to enter into an
Agreement with the Napanee Water-Works Company.
Of J. R. Booth and others of Ottawa, praying that an Act may pass to
incorporate the Nickel Range Railway Company.
Of Donald D. Mann and others of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass
to incorporate the Wahnapitae Railway Company.
Of the Town Council of Oshawa, praying that an Act may pass declaring
that the buildings of The Oshawa Young Men's Christian Association and the
lands whereon erected be exempted from Taxation except for local improvements.
Of the Trustees of The Toronto General Burying Grounds, praying that
an Act may pass authorizing them to sell and convey any lands owned by them
and not required for burial purposes ; to authorize the investment of funds and
for other purposes.
Of the Western Central Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass
authorizing its guarantee of the securities of other Companies ; the issue of its
bonds over required railways and for other purposes.
Of the Union Trust Company, praying that an Act may pass authorizing
the Company as Administrators of the Estate of Blanche Eleanor Leslie, de-
ceased, to lease certain lands for the term of twenty-one years.
The Committee recommend that Rule No. 51 of this Honourable House be
suspended in this, that the time for presenting Petitions for Private Bills to
this Honourable House be extended until and inclusive of Eriday, the llth
day of February instant.
Ordered, That the time for presenting Petitions for Private Bills, be ex-
tended until and inclusive of Eriday the Eleventh day of February instant.
Edw. VII. 3RD FEBRUARY. 51
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 1), intituled "An Act to confirm By-law No. 9, of 1909, of
the Town of Thornbury. Mr. McKeown.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 2), intituled ." An Act to confirm By-law No. 502 of the Town
of Campbellford." Mr. Nesbitt.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 3), intituled " An Act to confirm By-law No. 818 of the Town
of Napanee." Mr. Carscallen.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 4), intituled " An Act to incorporate the Nickel Range Railway
Company." Mr. Hearst.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 11), intituled " An Act to incorporate the Wahnapitae Railway
Company." Mr. Hearst.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 8), intituled "An Act respecting the Oshawa Young Men's
Christian Association." Mr. Calder.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (ISTo. 12), intituled "An Act respecting the Trustees of the Toronto
General Burying Grounds." Mr. McNaught.
Referred to the Commissioners of Estates Bills.
Bill (No. 10), intituled " An Act respecting the Western Central Railway
Company." Mr. McNaught.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 17), intituled " An Act respecting the Estate of Blanche Eleanor
.eslie." Mr. Shaw.
Referred to the Commissioners of Estates Bills.
Bill (No. 151), intituled "An Act to establish the Algonquin National
Park of Ontario." Mr. Cochrane.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
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Bill (No. 159), intituled " An Act respecting the Department of Agricul-
ture." Mr. Duff.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 65), intituled " An Act to amend the Fish and Game Act." Mr.
Hoyle.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
The Order of the Day for the House again to resolve itself into the Com-
mittee of Supply, having been read.
Mr. Matheson moved,
That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair, and that the House do again
resolve itself into the Committee of Supply.
And a Debate having ensued, it was, on motion of Mr. McEwing,
Ordered, That the Debate be adjourned until Tuesday next.
The House then adjourned at 5.30 P.M.
Friday, 4th February, 1910.
PEAYEES. 3 O'CLOCK P.M*
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Sir James Whitney, the Petition of the Fort William Trade and
Labour Council ; also, the Petition of the Bridge and Structural Iron Workers
Local Union, No. 4, of Toronto.
By Mr. Reaume, the Petition of the City Council of Windsor.
By Mr. Tudhope, the Petition of the Township Council of Tay ; also, the
Petition of the Grand Trunk Railway of Canada; also, the Petition of the
Simcoe Railway and Power Company.
Edw. VII. 4TH FEBRUARY. 53
By Mr. Jessop, the Petition of the City Council of St. Catharines.
By Mr. Carrick, the Petition of the City Council of Port Arthur.
By Mr. Shillington, the Petition of the Township Council of Hudson.
By Mr. Innes, the Petition of the Township Council of Townsend; also,
the Petition of the Village Council of Waterford; also, the Petition of the
County Council of Norfolk.
By Mr. Mackay (Oxford), the Petition of Young Men's Christian Asso-
ciation of Woodstock.
By Mr. Smellie, the Petition of the Fort William Trades and Labour
Council; also, the Petition of the Township Council of O'Connor; also, the
Petition of the Township Council of Paipoonge.
The following Petitions were read and received: —
Of the City Council of Hamilton, praying that an Act may pass authoriz-
ing the Corporation to levy the same rate of taxation in respect to annexed por-
tions of the City as is levied in the older portions ; to pass certain By-laws and
for other purposes.
Of the Town Council of Brampton, praying that an Act may pass to
ratify and confirm certain By-laws.
Of W. A. McCullough and others of Richmond, praying for certain
amendments to the Ditches and Watercourses Act.
Two Petitions of the Builders' Labourers' Union, No. 1, of Toronto ; also,
of the Township Council of Horton ; also, of the Township Council of Raglan ;
also, of the Township Council of Springer; also, of the Township Council of
Marti and; also, of the Township Council of the United Townships of Ratter
and Dnnnett; also, of the County Council of Dufferin ; also, of the Township
Council of Gonlburn; also, of the Township Council of Wainfleet, severally
praying for certain amendments to the Assessment Act, respecting the taxation
of Farm Buildings.
The following Bills were severally read the second time: —
Bill (No. 144), Respecting Agricultural Associations.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
54 4TH FEBRUARY. 1910
Bill (No. 145), Kespecting Mortgages and Sales of Personal Property.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 153), To secure payment of Wages for Labour performed in
the Construction of Works.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 154), Respecting Wages.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 151), To establish the Algonquin National Park of Ontario.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
Bill (No. 159), Respecting the Department of Agriculture.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Tuesday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 135),
Respecting the Limitation of Actions, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clark (Bruce) reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Tuesday next.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House by command of His Honour the
Lieuten ant-Governor : —
Reports of the Live Stock Associations of the Province, for the year
1909. (Sessional Papers No. 39.)
Also — Report of the Farmers' Institutes of the Province, for the year
1909. (Sessional Papers No. 40.)
Also — Report of the Women's Institutes of the Province, for the year
1909. (Sessional Papers No. 41.)
Also — Report of the Poultry Institute of the Province, for the year 1909.
(Sessional Papers No. 42.)
Also — Report of the Agricultural Societies of the Province, for the year
1909. (Sessional Papers No. 43.)
Edw. VII. 4TH AND 7TH FEBRUARY. 55
Also — The Province of Ontario, Situation and Size, Climate, Products,
Resources, Progress and Advantages. (Sessional Papers No. 60.)
The House then adjourned at 3.25 P.M.
Monday, 7th February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table :•-
By Mr. MacKay (Grey), the Petition of the Township Council of Ops;
also, the Petition of the Township Council of Sunnidale; also, the Petition
of the Township Council of Alberton ; also, the Petition of the Village Council
of Hepworth; also, the Petition of the Township Council of Saugeen; also,
the Petition of the Township Council of Cardiff; also, the Petition of the
Township Council of Vespra.
By Mr. Ferguson (Grenville), the Petition of the Morrisburg Electric
Railway Company.
By Mr. McPherson, the Petition of the Eort Erie Ferry Railway Com-
pany.
By Mr. Preston (Rainy River), the Petition of the Township Council
of Flavelle; also, the Petition of the Township Council of Chappie; also, the
Petition of the Township Council of Dilke ; also, the Petition of the Township
Council of Emo ; also, the Petition of the Town Council of Eort Frances ;
also, the Petition of the Township Council of Alberton ; also, the Petition of the
Township Council of Morley.
The following Petitions were read and received: —
Of the City Council of St. Thomas, praying that an Act may pass to
repeal Sections 2, 3 and 4 of 3 Edw. VII., c. Ill ; to abolish the Board of Street
Railway Commissioners and for other purposes.
Of the City Council of Brantford, praying that an Act may pass enabling
the Corporation to effect changes in the mode of maintenance of the John H.
Stratford Hospital and to ratify and confirm By-laws re issue of Debentures.
56 7TH FEBRUARY. 1910
Of the Township Council of Tay, praying that an Act may pass to ratify
and confirm By-law No. 482, and a certain Agreement providing for a fixed
taxation and assessment on properties of the Canadian Pacific Railway and
Georgian Bay and Seaboard Railway.
Of the City Council of Port Arthur, praying that an Act may pass to
abolish the Electric Railway and Light Commission; to ratify and confirm
certain By-laws and for other purposes.
Of the Simcoe Railway and Power Company, praying that an Act may pass
to ratify and confirm certain By-laws permitting the use of certain roads
by the Company and to extend the time for commencement and completion
of road.
Of the City Council of St. Catharines, praying that an Act may pass to
ratify and confirm By-law No. 2126 of the City in aid of the Monarch Knitting
Company, Limited.
Of the City Council of Windsor, praying that an Act may pass to amend
7 Edw. VII. , Cap. 97, Sec. 1, extending the time for granting Bonuses from
five to eight years.
Of the Township Council of Tay; also, of the Grand Trunk Railway of
Canada, severally praying that an Act may pass to confirm and declare valid
a certain agreement between the Grand Trunk Railway of Canada and the
Corporation, fixing total amount of taxes to be paid by the Company upon its
assessable property.
Of the Woodstock Young Men's Christian Association, praying that an
Act may pass to enable the holding of real estate and to exempt property from
taxation except for Local Improvement.
Two Petitions of the Fort William Trades and Labour Council; also, of
the Bridge and Structural Iron Workers Local Union of Toronto; also, of the
Township Council of O'Connor; also, of the Township Council of Paipoonge;
also, of the Township Council of Hudson; also, of the Village Council of
Waterford; also, of the Township Council of Townsend; also, of the County
Council of Norfolk, severally praying for certain amendments to the Assess-
ment Act, respecting the Taxation of Farm Buildings.
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 150), intituled " The Woodman's Lien for Wages Act." Mr.
Cochrane.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Edw. VII. TTH AND STH FEBRUARY. 57
On motion of Mr. MacKay (Grey), seconded by Mr. Mackay (Oxford.)
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Return shewing: (1) A
copy of the advertisement calling for tenders for the printing, publishing and
supplying of "Ontario Readers"; (2) Copies of all tenders received;
(3) Copies of correspondence between the Government of Ontario or any official
thereof and any tenderer or tenderers ; (4) A copy of the contract entered into
on behalf of the Government for the printing, publishing and supplying of
" Ontario Readers"; (5) A detailed statement of the cost to the Government
of supplying to the publisher electro-plates for each reader.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House by command of His Honour the
Lieutenant-Governor :—
Copy of an Order in Council under S.S. 2 of S. 84 of the Surrogate
Courts Act, authorizing payment of surplus surrogate fees to His Honour
Judge Wismer, Junior Judge of the County Court of the County of
Simcoe. (Sessional Papers No. 61.)
Also — Return to an Order of the House of the Twenty-eighth day of
January, 1910, for a Return: 1. Shewing the number of licenses granted to
Fishermen in each of the following Districts in the years 1908 and 1909:
(a) Lake Superior. (&) The Northern Channel of Lake Huron. (c)
Georgian Bay. (d) Lake Huron and Lake St. Clair. (e) Lake Erie and
Grand River. (/) Rivers St. Clair, Thames and Detroit, and (g) Lake
Ontario and Bay of Quinte. 2. The kind of license granted to each Fisher-
man. 3. The cost of licenses to each Fisherman of each of the above Districts.
(Sessional Papers No. 62.)
The House then adjourned at 3.25 P.M.
Tuesday, 8th February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
Mr. Speaker informed the House,
That the Clerk had received from the Commissioners of Estate Bills, their
Reports in the following cases : —
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Bill (No. 12), Respecting the Trustees of the Toronto General Burying
Grounds.
Bill (No. 17), Respecting the Estate of Blanche Eleanor Leslie.
The Reports were then read by the Clerk, at the Table, as follows : —
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario.
The undersigned, two of the Commissioners of Estate Bills, having
perused and considered Bill (No. 12), intituled " An Act respecting the
Trustees of the Toronto General Burying Grounds," and .presuming the
allegations contained in the Preamble to be proved, think it is reasonable that
the said Bill should pass into law. 2. The provisions thereof are proper for
carrying its purposes into effect. 3. We do not find that any alterations,
or amendments, are necessary in the same. We have accordingly approved the
said Bill and signed the same.
All of which is respectfully submitted.
GLENHOLME FALCON BRIDGE, C.J.K.B.
B. M. BRITTON, J.K.B.D.
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario.
The undersigned, two of the Commissioners of Estate Bills, have had
under consideration Bill (No. 17), "An Act respecting the Estate of Blanche
Eleanor Leslie," and the Petition therefor and have the honour to report as
follows : —
The undersigned are of opinion that presuming the allegations contained
in the Preamble to be proved to the satisfaction of Your Honourable House,
it is reasonable that, subject to the amendments in the enacting part thereof
hereby recommended, such Bill do pass into law.
The undersigned are of opinion that for the better carrying into effect the
purposes of the Act, the enacting part thereof should be amended as shewn in
the copy of the Bill which is returned herewith with the signatures of the
undersigned appended thereto.
The undersigned are of opinion that, as amended, the provisions of the
Bill seem proper for carrying its purposes into effect.
CHARLES Moss, C.J.O.
JOHN J. MACLAREN, J.A.
Dated at Toronto, this 8th day of February, 1910.
Edw. VII. STH FEBRUARY. 59
Ordered, That Bill (No. 12), Respecting the Trustees of the Toronto
General Burying Grounds, be referred to the Committee on Private Bills,
with instructions to consider the same with reference to the suggestions of the
Commissioners of Estate Bills? thereon.
Ordered, That Bill (No. 17), Kespecting the Estate of Blanche Eleanor
Leslie, be referred to the Committee on Private Bills with instructions to
consider the same with reference to the suggestions of the Commissioners of
Estate Bills thereon.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Sir James Whitney, the Petition of the Typographical Union, No. 91;
also, the Petition of the Bakers' and Confectioners' Union, all of Toronto.
By Mr. Bowyer, the Petition of the County Council of Kent.
By Mr. Fripp, the Petition of the City Council of Ottawa.
By Mr. Pattinson, the Petition of the County Council of Waterloo.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first timer-
Bill (No. 66), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act." Mr.
Macdiarmid.
Ordered, That the. Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 67), intituled "An Act to amend the Ontario Railway and
Municipal Board Act." Mr. Macdiarmid.
. Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next
Bill (No. 68), intituled "An Act to amend the Division Courts Act."
Mr. Macdiarmid.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 69), intituled "An Act to regulate the purchase, sale and
transfer of Stocks of Goods in bulk." Mr. Jessop.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
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Bill (No. 70), intituled " An Act to amend the Municipal Act."
Mr. Fripp.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 71), intituled- "An Act to amend the Municipal Act."
Mr. Fripp.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 72), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act."
Mr. Fripp.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 73), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act."
Mr. Fripp.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 74), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act."
Mr. Fripp.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 75), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act."
Mr. Bradburn.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 76), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act."
Mr. Bradburn.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 77), intituled "'An Act to amend the Municipal Act."
Mr. Macdiarmid.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
Bill (No. 78), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act."
Mr. Macdiarmid.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Thursday next.
The Order of the Day for resuming the Adjourned Debate on the Motion,
that Mi*. Speaker do leave the Chair, and that the House do again resolve itself
into the Committee of Supply, having been read,
Edw. VII. STH AND 9TH FEBKUARY. 61
The Debate was resumed, and after some time, it was, on the motion
of Mr. McCormick,
Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned until To-morrow.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House by Command of His Honour the
Lieutenant-Governor : —
Report of the Inspector of Division Courts for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers No. 5.)
The House then adjourned at 5.40 P.M.
Wednesday, 9th February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Sir James Whitney, the Petition of the Stereotypers7 and Electro-
typers' Union, of Toronto.
By Mr. Nickle, the Petition of the Trade and Labour Council, of Kings-
ton.
By Mr. Mayberry, the Petition of the Township Council of North
Oxford.
By Mr. Godfrey, the Petition of John Smallman and others, of Toronto.
By Mr. Shillington, the Petition of S. Alfred Jones and others, of
Haileybury.
The following Petitions were read and received : —
Of the Fort Erie Ferry Eailway Company, praying that an Act may pass
to consolidate and amend the Acts relating to the Company ; to increase capital
stock, and for other purposes.
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Of the Morrisburg Electric Railway Company, praying that an Act
may pass to amend their Act of incorporation.
Of the Township Council of Ops; also, of the Township Council of
Sunnidale; also, two Petitions of the Township Council of Alberton; also, of
the Village Council of Hepworth; also, of the Township Council of Saugeen;
also, of the Township Council of Cardiff; also, of the Township Council of
Vespra; also, of the Township Council of Flavelle; also, of the Township
Council of Chappie; also, of the Township Council of Dilke; also, of the
Township Council of Emo; also, of the Town Council of Fort Frances; also,
of the Township Council of Morley, severally praying for certain amendments
to the Assessment Act, respecting the taxation of Farm Buildings.
Mr. Hoyle, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented
their Second Report, which was read as follows and adopted:
The Committee have carefully examined the following Petitions and
find the Notices as published in each case sufficient :—
Of the City Council of Stratford, praying that an Act may pass to con-
firm and declare valid an Agreement between the Grand Trunk Railway Com-
pany of Canada and the Corporation, extending for ten years the provisions
of an Agreement dated 27th February, 1900.
Of the St. Thomas Cemetery Company, praying that an Act may pass
to authorize and empower the Company to purchase and acquire lands for
cemetery uses, and for other purposes.
Of the Township Council of Tay, praying that an Act may pass to con-
firm and declare valid a certain Agreement between the Grand Trunk Railway
Company of Canada and the Corporation, fixing the total amount of taxes to
be paid by the Company upon its assessable property.
Of the Town Council of Barrie, praying that an Act may pass to ratify
and confirm certain Agreements and By-law Number 662, based thereon, re
exemption from taxation of the Canada Producer and Gas Engine Company,
Limited.
Of the Township Council of Tay, praying that an Act may pass to ratify
and confirm By-law Number 482 and a certain Agreement providing for a
fixed taxation and assessment of properties of the Canadian Pacific Railway
and Georgian Bay and Seaboard Railway.
Edw. VII. 9TH FEBRUARY. 63
Of the Township Councils of Southwold and Yarmouth, praying that an
Act may pass to ratify and confirm By-laws Numbers 652 and 780 respectively,
relating to the maintenance of Kain's Hill Road.
Of the Ottawa Young Men's Christian Association, praying that an Act
may pass amending their Act of Incorporation, by extension of powers to
hold real estate.
Of the People's Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass em-
powering the Company to extend their line.
Of the Simcoe Railway and Power Company, praying that an Act may
pass to ratify and confirm certain By-laws permitting the use of certain roads
by the Company and to extend the time for the commencement and comple-
tion of the road.
Of the Town Council of Kenora, praying that an Act may pass authoriz-
ing the Corporation to guarantee the Mortgage Debentures of the Tourist Hotel
Company, Limited, to the amount of $100,000, and to ratify and confirm a
certain By-law.
Of the City Council of St. Catharines, praying that an Act may pass to
ratify and confirm By-law Number 2106 and a certain Agreement between
the Corporation and the Canadian Crocker Wheeler Company, Limited.
Of the Town Council of Berlin, praying that an Act may pass to incor-
porate the Town as a City.
Of the City Council of Peterborough, praying that an Act may pass to
ratify and confirm certain By-laws; to amend an Act respecting the City and
for other purposes.
Of the Bruce Mines and Algoma Railway Company, praying that an Act
may pass to extend the time for construction and completion of the road and
for other purposes.
Of the Town Council of Penetanguishene, praying that an Act may pass
empowering the Corporation to raise by sale of Debentures the sum of $27,-
500, to pay off existing floating debt and for other purposes.
The Committee recommend that Rule Number 51 of this Honourable
House be further suspended in this, that the time for presenting Petitions
for Private Bills be further extended, until and inclusive of Friday, the 18th
day of February, instant; and that the time for introducing Private Bills
be extended until and inclusive of Monday the 21st day of February, instant
64 9TH FEBRUARY. 1910
Mr. Hoyle, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented
their Third Report, which was read as follows and adopted :
The Committee have carefully examined the Petition of the City Council
of London, praying that an Act may pass to ratify and confirm certain By-laws
relating to waterworks, sewers and local improvements, and for other pur-
poses, and find that notice of the proposed application to this Legislature has
been published for a period of five weeks in the "Ontario Gazette," and in
two newspapers published in the City of London, and that a Declaration has
been fyled shewing that the Notice will appear in the said publications until
the full period of six weeks, required by the Rules of this Honourable House,
shall have elapsed.
The Committee find that the Petition prays "That authority should be
granted to the Corporation of the City of London, by By-law, to permit
the erection and maintenance of a public slaughter house, or abattoir, in the
said City of London, or in one of the adjoining townships" ; the notice makes
no allusion to the erection of the proposed abattoir outside of the City
limits ;
The Committee recommend that the attention of the Private Bills
Committee be directed to this matter, so that if the abattoir be erected outside
of the City limits the consent of the Council of the Township in which it is
to be erected be first obtained.
Mr. Hoyle, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented
their Fourth Report, which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully examined the Petition of the City Council
of Fort William, praying that an Act may pass to acquire by purchase or
otherwise certain lands situate in the District of Thunder Bay; to ratify and
confirm certain By-laws and for other purposes;
The Committee find that Notice of the proposed application to this Legis-
lature has appeared for a sufficient length of time in the " Ontario Gazette "
and in the "Daily Times Journal," a newspaper published in the City 'of
Fort William ;
The Committee also find that the sum proposed to be raised by the issue
of Debentures under By-law No. 733, for the purpose of improving Me Vicar
Street Subway and erecting a City Dock, differs in the Notice as published in
the Gazette from that in the Notice as published in the local paper, and also
from that mentioned in the Petition ;
Edw. VII. 9TH FEBRUARY. 65
The Committee also find that in Section 5 of the Notice, as published
both in the Gazette and in the local paper, and which refers to the special
tax, or rate, to be levied on the several properties fronting or abutting upon
any street, etc., along which water mains are laid, the words "or four mills on
the dollar of the assessed value in each year of" appear, while these words have
been expunged from the Petition;
The Committee recommend that the attention of the Private Bills Com-
mittee be directed to these discrepancies.
Ordered, That the time for presenting Petitions for Private Bills, be
extended until and inclusive of Friday, the Eighteenth day of February,
instant.
Ordered, That the time for introducing Private Bills, be extended until
and inclusive of Monday, the Twenty-first day of February, instant.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 6), intituled "An Act respecting the Town of Barrie."
Mr. Thompson (Simcoe.)
Referred to the Committee' on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 14), intituled "An Act to amend the Act to incorporate the
Ottawa Young Men's Christian Association." Mr. Fripp.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 5), intituled "An Act to confirm, an Agreement between the
Township of Tay and the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada." Mr.
Tudhope.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 7), intituled "An Act respecting the Town of Penetanguishene."
Mr. Tudhope.
Referred to the Railway and Municipal Board.
Bill (No. 15), intituled "An Act respecting the St. Thomas Cemetery
Company." Mr. Macdiarmid.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
66 9TH FEBRUARY. 1910
Bill (No. 18), intituled "An Act respecting the People's Railway Com-
pany. Mr. Ross.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 9), intituled "An Act to incorporate the City of Berlin." Mr.
Lackner.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 32), intituled "An Act respecting the Township of Tay." Mr.
Tudhope.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
»
Bill (No. 13), intituled "An Act to amend the Act respecting the Bruce
Mines and Algoma Railway Company." Mr. Grigg.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 31), intituled "An Act respecting the City of London." Mr.
Neely.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 21), intituled "An Act to confirm an Agreement between the
City of Stratford and the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada." Mr.
Torrance.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 19), intituled "An Act to confirm By-law No. 2106 of the City
of St. Catharines." Mr. Jessop.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 33), intituled "An Act to confirm certain By-laws and an Agree-
ment between the Townships of Southwold and Yarmouth." Mr. Brower.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 22), intituled "An Act respecting the City of Peterborough."
Mr. Bradburn.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 79), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act." Mr.
Thompson (Simcoe).
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Friday next.
Edw. VII. 9TH FEBRUARY. 67
Bill (No. 80), intituled "An Act to amend the Act respecting Statute
Labour." Mr. Mahaffy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Friday next.
Bill (No. 81), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act." Mr.
Hoyle.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Friday next.
Bill (No. 82), intituled "An Act to amend the Ontario Game and Fish-
eries Act." Mr. Pratt.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Friday next.
Bill (No. 83), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act" Mr.
Nickle.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Friday next.
The following Bill was read the second time : —
Bill (No. 150), The Woodman's Lien for Wages Act.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 159),
Respecting the Department of Agriculture, and after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported,
That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amend-
ment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 151),
To establish the Algonquin National Park of Ontario, and after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville)
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain
amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
68 9TH FEBRUARY. 1910
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 154),
Respecting Wages, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed
the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee had
directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 153),
To Secure Payment of Wages for Labour performed in the construction of
Works, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and
Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to
report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 145),
Respecting Mortgages and Sales of Personal Property, and after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville)
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any
amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 144.),
Respecting Agricultural Associations, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 156),
Respecting Councils of Conciliation and of Arbitration for settling Industrial
Disputes, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ;
and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed
him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 155),
Respecting Master and Servant, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 146),
Respecting Liens of Mechanics, Wage-earners and others, and after some time
Edw. VII. 9TH AND 10TH FEBRUARY. 69
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville;
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any
amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House then adjourned at 3.45 P.M.
Thursday, 10th February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Mr. Gamey, the Petition of James Carter and others, of Kagamong.
By Mr. Preston (Lanark), the Petition of the Mississippi Eiver Improve-
ment Company.
By Mr. Jamieson, the Petition of the Town Council of Durham.
By Mr. Johnson, the Petition of the Town Council of Trenton.
By Mr. Carrick, the Petition of the Young Men's Christian Association
of Port Arthur.
By Mr. Sulman, two Petitions of the Village Council of Tilbury; also,
the Petition of the City Council of Chatham; also, the Petition of Township
Council of Tilbury East.
The following Petitions were read and received:—
Of the City Council of Ottawa, praying that an Act may pass authorizing
the issue of certain debentures for fire stations, park purposes, etc. ; to amend
certain Acts relating to the Corporation, and for other purposes.
Of the County Council of Waterloo, praying for certain amendments
to the High Schools Act, respecting the appointment of Trustees by County
Councils.
Of the County Council of Kent, praying for certain amendments to the
Act for the Protection of Sheep and to impose a Tax on Dogs.
70 10TH FEBRUARY. 1910
Of the Typographical Union No. 91 ; also, of the Bakers' and Confectioners'
International Union, all of Toronto, praying for certain amendments to the
Assessment Act respecting the Taxation of Farm Buildings.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 43), intituled "An Act respecting the Town of Kenora." Mr.
Machin.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 84), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Water Works
Act." Mr. Torrance.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 85), intituled "An Act to amend the Public Schools Act, 1909."
Mr. Proudfoot.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 86), intituled "An Act to amend the Act for the protection of
Sheep and to impose a tax on Dogs." Mr. Bowyer.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 87), intituled "An Act to amend the High Schools Act." Mr.
McKeown.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Pi1! a\To. 88), intituled "The Ontario Telephone Act, 1910." Mr.
Charters.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 89), intituled "An Act to amend the Liquor License Act." Mr.
Proudfoot.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 90), intituled "An Act respecting Vaccination and Inoculation."
Mr. Innes.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 91), intituled "An Act to amend the Act respecting Solicitors."
Mr. Shillington.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Edw. VII. 10TH AND llTH FEBRUARY". 71
Bill (No. 92), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act." Mr.
Proudfoot.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
The Order of the Day for resuming the Adjourned Debate on the Motion,
that Mr. Speaker do leave the Chair, and that the House do again resolve itself
into the Committee of Supply, having been read,
The Debate was resumed, and after some time, it was, on the motion
of Mr. McKeown,
Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned until To-morrow.
On motion of Mr. Reaume, seconded by Mr. Lucas,
Ordered, That the name of Mr. Nesbitt be added to the Standing Com-
mittee on Fish and Game.
The House then adjourned at 6 P.M.
Friday, llth February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Sir James Whitney, The Petition of the Twin City Trades and Labour
Council of Berlin ; also, the Petition of the Amalgamated Society of Carpenters
and Joiners, Toronto.
By Mr. Shaw, the Petition of the City Council of Toronto.
Mr. McCowan, the Petition of the Township Council of York.
The following Petitions were read and received : —
Of John Smallman and others, of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass
to incorporate the Artesian Water Company, Limited.
72 HTH FEBRUARY. 1910
Of S. Alfred Jones and others, of Haileybury, praying for certain
amendments to the Act respecting Solicitors.
Of the Toronto Stereotypers and Electrotypers, of Toronto; also, of the
Trade and Labour Council, of Kingston; also, of the Township Council of
North Oxford, severally praying for certain amendments to the Assessment
Act respecting Taxation of Farm Buildings.
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 94), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act." Mr.
McElroy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Tuesday next.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 139), For quiet-
ing Titles to Real Estate, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith again
referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Gren-
ville) reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 119),
Respecting Constables, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker re-
sumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 150),
The Woodman's Lien for Wages Act, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House then adjourned at 3.30 P.M.
Edw. VII. 14TH FEBRUARY. 73
Monday, 14th February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table :-
By Sir James Whitney, the Petition of the United Brotherhood of
Carpenters, of Toronto.
By Mr. Macdiarmid, the Petition of Campbell Black and others, of
Toronto.
By Mr. Smellie, the Petition of the Iron Range Railway Company.
The following Petitions were read and received : —
Of the Town Council of Durham, praying that an Act may pass to ratify
and confirm By-law No. 568, guaranteeing the Bonds of the McGowan Milling
Company to the extent of $15,000.
Of the Mississippi River Improvement Company, praying that an Act
may pass authorizing the Company to collect tolls along the Mississippi River
and for other purposes.
Of the Town Council of Trenton praying that an Act may pass authorizing
the Corporation to purchase, and if necessary expropriate, the property of the
Trenton Electric and Water Company, Limited, and to issue debentures.
Of the Young Men's Christian Association, of Port Arthur, praying that
an Act may pass incorporating them; confirming conveyance of property and
exempting same from taxation.
Of the City Council of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass to authorize
the expenditure of certain moneys; to ratify and confirm certain By-laws and
for other purposes.
Of the Township Council of York, praying that an Act may pass to amend
the Act, 9 Edw. VII., C. 126, relating to the Township, by changing certain
words in the second line of Clause 1.
Of James Carter and others, of Kagamong, praying for certain amend-
ments to the Statute Labour Act.
Two Petitions of the Village Council of Tilbury ; also, of the City Council
of Chatham; also, the Township Council of Tilbury East, severally praying
for certain amendments to the Assessment Act, respecting the Taxation of Farm
Buildings.
74 MTH FEBRUARY. 1910
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 34), intituled " An Act respecting the City of Fort William."
Mr. Smellie.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 160), intituled " An Act to amend the Judicature Act."
Mr. Toy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
f
Bill (No. 161), intituled " An Act to amend the Act respecting the Pro-
perty of Religious Institutions." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 96), intituled "An Act to amend the Division Courts Act."
Mr. Anderson.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
Bill (No. 97), initiuled " An Act to amend the Municipal Act."
Mr. Hearst.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
Bill (No. 98), intituled "An Act to amend the Public Health Act."
Mr. Hearst.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Wednesday next.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House, by command of His Honour the Lieu-
tenant-Governor : —
Report of the Minister of Public Works of the Province, for the year
1909. (Sessional Papers No. 12.)
Also — Report on Highway Improvement in the Province, for the year 1909.
(Sessional Papers No. 14.)
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Also — Rules and Regulations made by order of His Honour the Lieutenant-
Governor in Council, for the carrying into effect the Succession Duty Act.
(Sessional Papers No. 63.)
Also — Statement on the distribution of the Revised and Sessional Statutes,
up to 31st December, 1909. (Sessional Papers No. 64.)
The House then adjourned at 3.15 P.M.
Tuesday, 15th February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petition? wore severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Mr. Paul, the Petition of the Township Council of the United Town-
ships Denbigh, Abinger and Ashby.
By Mr. Anderson, the Petition of the Township Council of Gosfield
North.
By Mr. Machin, the Petition of Charles W. Chad wick and others, of
Kenora.
ton
By. Mr. Devitt, the Petition of William "Mount joy and others, of Darling-
Bv Mr. Gri<r£. the Petition of the Township Council of Macrlonald.
Mr. Lucas from the Standing Committee on Private Bills presented
their First Report, which was read as follows and adopted:
"The Committee have carefully considered the following Bill and report
the same without amendment: —
Bill (No. 8), Respecting the Oshnwa Young Men's Christian Association.
76 15TH FEBRUARY. 1910
The Committee have also carefully considered the following Bills and
report the same with certain amendments: —
Bill (No. 3), To confirm By-law No. 818 of the Town of Napanee.
Bill (No. 14), To amend the Act to incorporate the Ottawa Young Men's
Christian Association.
Bill (No. 15), Respecting the St. Thomas Cemetery Company and,
Bill (No. 17), Respecting the Estate of Blanche Eleanor Leslie.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing,
be remitted on Bills Numbers 8 and 14, on the ground that they are Bills
relating to an Educational or Religious Institution.
Ordered, That the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on
Bill (No. 8), Oshawa Y. M. C. A., and on Bill (No. 14), Ottawa Y. M. C. A.
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 162), intituled " The Statute Law Amendment Act 1910."
Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for resuming the Adjourned Debate on the Motion,
that Mr. Speaker do leave the Chair, and that the House do again resolve itself
into the Committee of Supply, having been read,
The Debate was resumed, and after some time, it was, on the motion of
Mr. Bowman.
Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned until To-morrow.
The House then adjourned at 10.10 P.M.
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Wednesday, 16th February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'Clock P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:-
By Mr. Hendrie, the Petition of George Le Riche and others, of Hamil-
ton.
By Mr. Shillington, the Petition of the Town Council of Cobalt.
The following Petitions were read and received:
Of the Iron Range Railway Company, praying that an Aet may pass
extending the time for commencement and Completion of the road.
Of Campbell Black and others of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass
to incorporate the Osteopathic College of Ontario.
Of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters; also, of 'J^e Amalgamated
Society of Carpenters and Joiners, all of Toronto ; also, of the Twin City
Trades and Labour Council of Berlin, severally praynig for certain amendments:
to tho Assessment Act respecting the Taxation of Farm Buildings.
Mr. Hoyle, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented
their Fifth Report, which was read as follows and adopted: —
The Committee have carefully examined the following Petitions and find
the Notices as published, in each case sufficient :
Of the Municipality of Shuniah, praying that an Act may pass to vali-
date and confirm all Tax Sales and Tax Sale proceedings; to amend Act in-
corporating and for other purposes.
Of the Charles M. Garvey and others, of Toronto, praying that an Act
may pass to incorporate the Monarch Railway Company.
Of William B. Russel and others, of Toronto, praying that an Act may
pass incorporating the Toronto, Haliburton and Pembroke Railway Company.
Of the Town Council of Port Hope, praying that an Act may pass author-
izing the corporation to issue Debentures to the amount of $25,000 towards
construction and repair of streets and roads.
78 16TH FEBRUARY. 1910
Of the Dunnville, Wellandport and Beamsville Electric Railway Com-
pany, praying that an Act may pass to extend their line from Jordan Harbour
to the City of St. Catharines.
Of the Town Council of Niagara, praying that an Act may pass to ratify
and confirm a certain By-law fixing the Assessment upon the property of Henry
Winnett.
Of the Toronto General Trusts Corporation, Charles Northcote and others,
praying that an Act may pass declaring that Chapter 150 of 53 Victoria was
intended to affect the rights of and be binding upon those persons who would
be entitled to the lands in the Act referred to, if Charles Northeote were to
die intestate.
Of The North Midland Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass
extending the time for the commencement and completion of the road.
Of the City Council of St. Thomas, praying that an Act may pass to re-
peal sections 2 and 3 of 3 Edw. VII., c. 3; to abolish the Board of Street
Railway Commissioners and for other purposes.
The Committee recommend that Rule No. 51 of this Honourable House
be further suspended in this, that the time for presenting Petitions for Private
Bills be further extended until and inclusive of Wednesday, the 23rd day of
February, instant, and that the time for introducing Private Bills to this
Honourable House be further extended until and inclusive of Thursday, the
24th day of February, instant.
Mr. Hoyle, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented
their Sixth Report, which was read as follows and adopted: —
The Committee have carefully examined the petition of the Fort Erie
Ferry Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass to consolidate and
amend the Acts relating to the Company; to increase their capital stock, and
for other purposes, and find that notice of the proposed application to this Legis-
lature has been published a sufficient length of time in the "Ontario Gazette"
and in the "Fort Erie Times," this latter newspaper being published in the
County of Welland which is the only County affected by the proposed legisla-
tion.
The Committee also find that the petition amongst other matters prays "to
extend the time for the commencement and completion of certain branch lines
and extensions of the said undertaking" of which no notice has been given in
either the "Ontario Gazette" or the local paper.
Edw. VI 1. 16TH FEBRUARY. 79
The Committee recommend that the attention of the Railway Committee
be directed to this discrepancy, so that when the Bill founded on the petition
comes before that Committee such portions thereof as relate to the extension
of time for the commencement -and completion of said branch lines and exten-
sions of the said railway, be eliminated therefrom.
Mr. Lucas, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, presented
their Second Eeport, which was read as follows and adopted:
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bills and report
the same without amendment: —
Bill (No. 1), To confirm By-law No. 9, of 1909, of the Town of Thorn-
bury.
Bill (No. 12), Respecting the Trustees of the Toronto General Burying
Grounds.
Bill (No. 33), To confirm certain By-laws and Agreements between the
Townships of South wold and Yarmouth.
The Committee have also carefully considered the following Bill and re-
port the same with certain amendments: —
Bill (No. 31), Respecting the City of London.
Ordered, That the time for presenting Petitions for Private Bills be
further extended until and inclusive of Wednesday, the Twenty-third day of
February, instant.
Ordered, That the time for introducing Private Bills be further extended
until and inclusive of Thursday, the Twenty-fourth day of February, instant.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 20), intituled "An Act respecting the Municipality of Shuniah."
Mr. Carrick.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
80 16TH FEBRUARY. 1910
. Bill (No. 3,5), intituled "An Act respecting the North Midland Railway
Company." Mr. Neely.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
i
Bill (No. 37), intituled "An Act to incorporate the Toronto, Halibur-
ton and Pembroke Railway Company." Mr. Gamey.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 40), intituled "An Act respecting the St. Thomas Street Rail-
way." Mr. Macdiarmid.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 30), intituled "An Act respecting the Dunnville, Wellandport
and Beamsville Electric Railway." Mr. Ross.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 25), intituled "An Act respecting the Town of Port Hope/' Mr.
Preston (Durham.)
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 23), intituled " An Act respecting the Estate of Charles North-
cote." Mr. McNaught.
Referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills.
Bill (No. 24), intituled "An Act respecting the Town of Niagara and
Henry Winnett." Mr. Jessop.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
The following Bills were severally read the second time: —
Bill (No. 3), To confirm By-law No. 818 of the Town of Napanee.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 8), respecting the Oshawa Young Men's Christian Association.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 14), To amend the Act to incorporate the Ottawa Young Men's
Christian Association.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Edw. VII. 16TH FEBRUARY. 81
Bill (No. 15), Respecting the St. Thomas Cemetery Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 17), Respecting the Estate of Blanche Eleanor Leslie.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Mr. MacKay (Grey), asked the following Question: —
1. What amount has been expended to the end of October, 1909, by the
Hydro-Electric Commission: (a) For all purposes; (&) For actual construc-
tion of transmission lines. 2. In what cases, if any, has the Commission agreed
to build the transformer stations. 3. How many miles of wire, if any, were
actually strung on October 31st, 1909, for transmission purposes. 4. When
was the Corn mission constituted. 5. To what municipalities is the Commis-
sion now delivering electric energy.
To which Mr. Beck replied in the words and figures following: —
1. Amount that has been expended to the end of October, 1909 : (a) For
all purposes, $495,984.46; (b ) For actual construction of transmission lines,
$230,273.29. 2. The Commission builds all transformer stations. 3. Up to
October 31st, 1909, no wire had been strung. 4. 2nd Session, llth Legisla-
ture, 6 Edward VII., 1906. 5. The City of Ottawa.
Mr. MacKay (Grey), asked the following Question: —
(1) Has any survey been made, or inquiry instituted as to the practicability
of a General Drainage scheme for the Fort Frances and Rainy River District.
(2) If so, when was such survey made, or inquiry instituted, and completed.
(3) By whom was the survey, or report, made. (4) Has any survey been made
or inquiry instituted, as to the practicability of constructing a through Trunk
Colonization Road from Port Arthur to Fort Frances and Rainy River. (5)
If so, when was such survey made, or inquiry instituted, and completed. (6)
By whom was the survey, or report, made.
To which the Minister of Public Works replied as follows: —
(1) A general survey of the District has not been made. A Drainage sys-
tem has been adopted to procure efficient outlets for draining the roads in the
district, which it is hoped will accomplish the double work of providing good
roads and at the same time draining the country.
(2) In 1908 the sum of $9,398.87 was spent on drainage works in nine
tc wnships, namely, Tait and Mather, Mclrvine, Lash, Miscampbell, Carpenter,
16TH FEBRUARY. 1910
Burris, Crozier and Bobie. In 1909 contracts were let for $4,515.50 and
work proceeded with in five townships, namely, Blue, Crozier, Burris, Shenston
and Pattulo.
In the Fall of 1909 surveys were made for drains in Pratt, Morley, Pattulo>
Shenston, Dobie, Carpenter, Lash and Mclrvine.
(3) In 1908, Mr. D. J. Gillon, C.E., Fort Frances. In 1909, Mr. A. J.
Halford, C.E., Department of Public Works, Ontario.
(4) No.
(5) Nil.
(6) Nil.
On motion of Mr. Proudfoot, seconded by Mr. McCart ;
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Return showing the num-
ber of permits and extensions granted to Public School Teachers during the
years 1908 and 1909: — (1) The reason for granting such permits and exten-
sions. (2) How many of the Teachers who received permits had previously
taught. (3) The ages of the Teachers who received such permits and exten-
sions.
On motion of Mr. MacKay (Grey), seconded by Mr. McDougal ;
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Return showing : 1. The
number of male teachers granted County Model School Certificates in the years
1906, 1907, 1908 and 1909, respectively. 2. The number of female teachers
granted County Model School Certificates in the years 1906, 1907, 1908 and
1909, respectively. 3. The number of male teachers granted Normal School
Certificates in the years 1906, 1907, 1908 and 1909, respectively. 4. The
number of female teachers granted Normal School Certificates in the years
1906, 1907, 1908 and 1909, respectively.
The Order of the Day for resuming the Adjourned Debate on the Motion,
that Mr. Speaker do leave the Chair, and that the House do again resolve itself
into the Committee of Supply, having been read,
EdW. VII. 16TH AND I7TH FEBRUARY. 83
The Debate was resumed, and after some time, it was, on the motion of
Mr. Studholme,
Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned until To-morrow.
On motion of Sir James Whitney, seconded by Mr. Foy.
Resolved, That when this House adjourns To-day, it do stand adjourned
until half past two of the clock To-morrow afternoon.
The House then adjourned at 6.25 P.M.
Thursday 17th. February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 2.30 O'Clock P.M.
Mr. Speaker informed the Ho.use,
That the Clerk had received from the Commissioners of Estate Bills, their
Report in the following case : —
Bill (No. 23), Respecting the Estate of Charles JSTorthcote.
The Report was then read by the Clerk, at the Table, as follows : —
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario.
The undersigned, two of the Commissioners of Estates Bills, to whom was
referred Bill (No. 23), intituled "An Act respecting the Estate of Charles
Northeote," have the honour to report that they have considered the Bill and
that they are of opinion that presuming the allegations contained in the Pre-
amble to be proved to the satisfaction of Your Honourable House, it is reason-
able that the Bill should pass into law and that they are also of opinion that
the provisions of the Bill are proper for carrying its purposes into effect.
All of which is respectfully submitted.
W. R. MEREDITH, C.J.C.P.
J. V. TEETZEL, J.C.P.D.
Dated at Osgoode Hall, Toronto, this 17th day of February, 1910.
84 17TH FEBRUARY. 1910
Ordered, That Bill (No, 23), Respecting the Estate of Charles Northcote,
be referred to the Committee on Private Bills with instructions to consider the
same with reference to the suggestions of the Commissioners of Estate Bills
thereon.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Mr. Downey, the Petition of the Toronto Suburban Railway Company.
By Mr. Thompson (Simcoe), the Petition of Frank F. Telfer and others,
of Collingwood.
By Mr. McKeown, the Petition of the Township Council of Mono.
By Mr. McDonald, the Petition of the Town Council of Alexandria.
The following Petitions were read and received: — ;
Of Charles W. Chadwick and others of Kenora, praying that an Act may
pass extending the time for commencement and completion of the Lac Seul,
Rat Portage and Keewatin Railway.
Of William Mount joy and others of Darlington, praying for certain
amendments to the Act to prevent the Spread of Noxious Weeds.
Of the Township Council of the Township Council of the United Town-
ships of Denbigh, Abinger and Ashby ; also, of the Township Council of Gos-
field North; also, of the Township Council of Macdonald, severally praying for
certain amendments to the Assessment Act, respecting the Taxation of Farm
Buildings.
*
Mr. Hendrie, from the Standing Committee on Railways, presented their
First Report, which was read as follows and adopted:
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bills and have
prepared certain amendments thereto respectively: —
Bill (No. 4), To incorporate the Nickel Range Railway Company.
Bill (No. 10), Respecting the Western Central Railway Company.
Edw. VIL 17TH FEBRUARY. 85
Bill (No. 11), To incorporate the Wahnapitae Railway Company, and
Bill (No. 13), To amend the Act respecting the Bruce Mines and Algoma
Railway Company.
The Committee have also carefully considered Bill (No. 18), Respecting
the People's Railway Company, and find the preamble thereof not proven on
the ground that legislation in the premises is neither necessary nor expedient.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing,
be remitted on the said Bill.
Ordered, That the fees less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on
Bill (No, 1*), Poople's Railway Company.
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 16), intituled "An Act to incorporate the Monarch Railway
Company." Mr. Thompson (Simcoe.)
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
The Order of the Day for resuming the Adjourned Debate on the Motion
that Mr. Speaker do leave the Chair, and that the House do again resolve itself
into the Committee of Supply, having been read.
The Debate was resumed,
And after some time,
Mr. MacKay (Grey), moved in Amendment, seconded by Mr. McDougal,
That all the words of the Motion, after the first word " That " be sMick
out and the following inserted : " This House regrets that when a proper
classification of Current, as distinguished from Capital Receipts and Expendi-
tures has been made, it clearly appears that the Current Expenditures for 1909
exceeded the current Receipts, and this House therefore regrets that the
Government is gradually depleting our Forest Wealth, while doing nothing by
way of Re-forestation, or otherwise, to, make this large source of Revenue
continuous and abiding.
86 I?TH FEBRUARY. 1910
"This House further regrets that, because of the abolition of the Model
Schools and of unwarranted and undesirable changes in Regulations, the
result is, that about ten per cent, of the Public Schools of this Province are
without qualified Teachers and there is confusion generally as to Text Books
and their supply.
" This House further regrets that, after the Government had spent a large
amount of the moneys of the Province in making the necessary literary selec-
tions for the Public School readers, in furnishing illustrations, plates, electro-
plating and in actually setting up the type, etc., that it should have handed
the printing of the said readers over to a Toronto Departmental Store at a
price which does not at all represent the whole cost of the said readers, while
regulating prices so as to induce the public generally to deal direct with the
said Toronto Departmental Store, to the detriment and injury of the whole
retail trade, in all lines, of this Province.
" This House further says that the said readers are inferior to the old
readers, both as to contents and makeup, and the Primer is entirely wrong in
conception, absolutely unfit for use in primary classes and should be immediately
withdrawn.
" This House further regrets, that no practical steps have been taken by the
Government to establish a system of Technical Schools throughout the Province,
in which the Mechanic and Artizan may receive training supplemental to his
practical training in the workshop.
" This House, while hereby approving of all legitimate means of supply-
ing cheap power to the Municipalities, further regrets that the Hydro-Electric
Commission in securing easements for a transmission line did not pursue any
systematic and equitable plan for the purpose of said easements, but practised
a system of brow beating and dickering entirely unworthy of this Province
and one which has led to absolutely inequitable results as to the amounts paid the
farmers for the said easements.
:< This House views with disappointment and alarm, the denial in recent
enactments of the fundamental right of the Subject to access to the Courts of
Justice for the determination of matters in controversy between subject and sub-
ject and between subjects and the Crown."
And the Amendment, having been submitted to the House, the same was
declared to be lost upon the following Division :
Edw. VII.
17TH FEBRUARY.
87
YEAS.
Messieurs :
Bowman
McCormick Mackay (Oxford)
Eeid (Renfrew?
Clarke (Northumberla'd}
McDougal
Mayberry
Stock
Elliott
McEwing
Racine
Truax
Kohler
MacKay (Grey) Reed (Wentworth)
Tudhope.
McCart
NAYS.
Messieurs :
Anderson
Eerguson
(Simcoe) Lucas
Paul
Aubin
Eerguson
(Grenville) McCowan
Pearce
Beck
Eisher
McDonald
Pharand
Bowyer
Eox
McElroy
Pratt
Brewster
Eoy
McGarry
Preston (Durham)
Brower
Eraser
McNaught
Preston (Lanark)
Calder
Gallagher
McPherson
Preston (Rainy River)
Carscallen
Gamey
Macdiarmid
Reaume
Charters
Godfrey
Mahaffy
Richardson
Clark (Bruce)
Grigg
Mason
Shaw
Cochrane
Hanna
Matheson
Shillington
Craig
Hearst
Morel
Smellie
Dargavel
Hoyle
Musgrove
Studholme
Devitt
Innes
Neely
Thompson (Simcoe)
Downey
Jessop
Nesbitt
Thompson (Peterboro)
Doyle
Johnson
Nickle
Torrance
Duff
Lackner
Nixon
Whitney
Eilber
Lennox
Norman
Wilson.
PAIRS.
Hendrie
Proudfoot
The Original Motion having been then again submitted, the same was
carried on the following Division :
Anderson
Aubin
Beck
Bowyer
Brewster
Brower
Calder
Carscallen
Charters
Clark (Bruce)
Cochrane
Craig
Dargavel
Devitt
YEAS.
Messieurs :
Downey
Hanna
Doyle
Hearst
Duff
Hoyle
Eilber
Innes
Eerguson (Simcoe)
Jessop
EergUSOn (Grenville)
Johnson
Eisher
Lackner
Eox
Lennox
Eoy
Lucas
Eraser
McCowan
Gallagher
McDonald
Gamey
McElroy
Godfrey
McGarry
Grigg
McNaught
McPherson
Macdiarmid
Mahaffy
Mason
Matheson
Morel
Musgrove
Neely
ISTesbitt
Nickle
Nixon
Norman
Paul
Pearce
17TH FEBRUARY. 1910
YEAS.
Messieurs :
Pharand Preston (Rainy River) Shillington Thompson(Peterboro)
Pratt Eeaume Smellie Torrance
Preston (Durham) Richardson Studholme Whitney
Preston (Lanark) Shaw . Thompson (Simcoe) Wilson
NAYS.
Messieurs :
Bowman McCormick Mackay (Oxford) Eeid (Renfrew)
Clarke(Northumberia'd) McDougal Mayberry Stock
Elliott McEwing Racine Truax
Kohler MacKay (Grey) Reed (Wentworth) Tuhope
McCart
Proudfoot Hendrie
And the House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That there be granted to His Majesty, for the services of 1909-10,
the following sum: —
78. To defray the expenses of the Office of the Prime Minister and Presi-
dent of the Council. $100.00.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported,
That the Committee had come to a Resolution; also, That the Committee had
directed him to ask for leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received To-morrow.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again Tormorrow.
On motion of Sir James Whitney, seconded by Mr. Foy,
Resolved > That when this House adjourns To-day it do stand adjourned
until Two of the Clock in the afternoon of To-morrow, the Eighteenth, instant.
The House then adjourned at 6,55 P.M.
Edw. VII 18TH FEBRUARY. 89
Friday, 18th February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 2 O'Clock P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Mr. MacKay (Grey), the Petition of the Township Council of Derby.
By Mr. Machin, the Petition of the Town Council of Kenora.
By Mr. Smellie, the Petition of the Thunder Bay, Nepigon and St. Joe
Kailway Company.
By Mr. McCormick, the Petition of William Bowden and others, of Forest.
By Mr. Fripp, the Petition of W. S. Scott and others, of Ottawa.
The following Petitions were read and received: —
Of the Town Council of Cobalt, praying that an Act may pass to ratify
a certain Agreement between the Corporation and the Township of Coleman re
Water Supply to the Town.
Of George Le Riche and others, of Hamilton, praying for the repeal of
the Act respecting the Manufacture and Sale of Bread.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 164), intituled "An Act to amend the Power Commission Act
and the Power Commission Amendment Act, 1909." Mr. MacKay (Grey.)
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 165), intituled " An Act to amend the Ditches and Watercourses
Act." Mr. Ferguson (Simcoe.)
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 166), intituled "An Act to amend the Act for the Improve-
ment of Public Highways." Mr. Lennox.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 167), intituled "An Act to amend the Assessment Act."
Mr. Hanna.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
90 18TH FEBRUARY. 1910
Bill (No. 168), intituled "An Act to amend the Landlord and Tenants
Act." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
On motion of Mr. McCart, seconded by Mr. Proudfoot,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Return of copies of all
correspondence between the Government of Ontario, or any Member or official
thereof, and any Judges of the Court of Appeal, for Ontario, or of the High
Court of Ontario, suggesting, or respecting Legislation to be introduced into
the Legislature during the years 1907, 1908 and 1909.
The following Bills were severally read the second time :—
Bill (No. 1), To confirm By-law No. 9, of 1909, of the Town of Thorn-
bury.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 12), Respecting the Trustees of the Toronto General Burying
Grounds.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 33), To confirm certain By-laws and an Agreement between the
Townships of Southwold and Yarmouth.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 31), Respecting the City of London.
Referred to a Committee of the WThole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 4), To incorporate the Nickel Range Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 10), Respecting the Western Central Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 11), To incorporate the Wahnapitae Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next,
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91
Bill (No. 13), To amend the Act respecting the Bruce Mines and Aleoma
Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 60), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 63), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 65), To amend the Fish and Game Act.
Referred to the Committee on Fish and Game.
Bill (.No. 66), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 70), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
i
Bill (No. 74), To^amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 77), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 79), To amend -the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 80), To amend the Act respecting Statute Labour.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 83), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 84), To amend the Municipal Water Works Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 92), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
92 18TH FEBRUARY. 1910
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 67 ), To amend
the Ontario Eailway and Municipal Board Act having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 78), To amend
the Municipal Act having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The House resolved itself into a Committee, severally to consider the fol-
lowing Bills: —
Bill (No. 8), Respecting the Oshawa Young Men's Christian Association.
Bill (No. 15), Respecting the St. Thomas Cemetery Company.
Bill (No. 17), Respecting the Estate of Blanche Eleanor Leslie.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Fergusen (Grenville) reported,
That the Committee had directed him to report the several Bills without any
Amendment.
Ordered, That the Bills reported, be severally read the third time on Mon-
day next.
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into the Committee
of Supply.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That there be granted to His Majesty, for the services of 1909-
10, the following sums: —
79. To defray the expenses of the Attorney-General's Depart-
ment $405 00
80. To defray the expenses of Audit of Criminal Justice
Accounts 550 00
81. To defray the expenses of Insurance Inspection 50 00
82. To defray the expenses of the Ontario Railway and Muni-
cipal Board 450 00
83. To defray the expenses of the Education Department .... 600 00
Edw. VII. 18TH FEBBUARY. 93
84. To defray the expenses of the Department of Lands, For-
ests and Mines , $200 00
85. To defray the expenses of Land Sales and Free Grants. . 325 00
86. To defray the expenses of Military Grants 200 00
87. To defray the expenses of Surveys and Patents 875 00
88. To defray the expenses of Woods and Forests 625 00
89. To defray the expenses of Accounts Branch 2,400 00
90. To defray the expenses of Bureau of Mines 2,150 00
91. To defray the expenses of the Public Works Department. . 6,650 00
92. To defray the expenses of the Highways Branch 150 00
93. To defray the expenses of Colonization Roads . . 50 00
94. To defray the expenses of Fisheries and Game 450 00
95. To defray the expenses of the Labour Bureau 900 00
96. To defray the expenses of the Treasury Department 1,340 00
97. To defray the expenses of the Succession Duties Branch. . 400 00
98. To defray the expenses of the Auditor's Office 2,300 00
99. To defray the expenses of the Provincial Secretary's De-
partment 8,925 00
100. To defray the expenses of Inspection of Public Institutions 1,950 00
101. To defray the expenses of the License Branch 1,950 00
102. To defray the expenses of the Registrar-General's Branch. . 1,350 00
103. To defray the expenses of the Provincial Board of Health. . 3,050 00
104. To defray the expenses of the Neglected Children's Branch 50 00
105. To defray the expenses of the Department of Agriculture .. 2,200 00
100. To defray the expenses of Colonization 1,420 00
107. To defray the expenses of Factory Inspection Branch. . . . 1,570 00
108. To defray the expenses of Miscellaneous 150 00
109. To defray the expenses of Legislation 26,160 00
110. To defray the expenses of the Supreme Court of Judicature 525 00
111. To defray the expenses of the Court of Appeal 175 25
112. To defray the expenses of Surrogate Court. 125 00
113. To defray the expenses of Commutations of Fees 684 93
114. To defray the expenses of Inspection of Division Courts. . 650 00
115. To defray the expenses of Land Titles Office 2,780 00
116. To defray the expenses of Deputy Clerks of the Crown. . . . 456 09
117. To defray the expenses of Miscellaneous 51,780 00
118. To defray the expenses of the District of Kenora 65 00
119. To defray the expenses of the District of Muskoka 100 00
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported,
That the Committee had come to several Resolutions ; also, That the Committee
had directed him to ask for leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received Monday next.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again on Monday next.
18TH AND 21sT FEBRUARY. 1910
On motion of Sir James Whitney, seconded by Mr. Matheson,
Resolved, That beginning on Monday next, and for each succeeding Mon-
day for the remainder of the Session, Government Orders shall be upon the
Order Paper.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House, by command of His Honour the
Lieutenant-Governor : —
Detailed Report of the Inspector of Insurance and Registrar of Friendly
Societies for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers No. 10.)
Also — Loan Corporations' Statements, being Financial Statements made
by Building Societies, Loan Companies, Loaning, Land and Trust Companies
for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers No. 11.)
Also — Third Annual Report of the Game and Fisheries Department for
the year 1909. (Sessional Papers No. 13.)
The House then adjourned at 4.30 P.M.
Monday, 21st February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'Clock, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Sir James Whitney, the Petition of the Fourth Branch of the Amal-
gamated Society of Carpenters and Joiners, of Toronto.
By Mr. Mackay (Oxford), the Petition of the Township Council -*f East
Zorra.
By Mr. Richardson, the Petition of the Town Council of Deseronto.
By Mr. Downey, the Petition of the City Council of Guelph.
By Mr. McCowan, three Petitions of the Township Council of Yoik.
Edw. VII. 21sT FEBRUARY. 95
The following Petitions were read and received: —
Of the Town Council of Alexandria, praying tha/t an Act may pass to
rstify and confirm By-law No. 124, guaranteeing bonds of the Glengarry Match
Company, Limited.
Of Frank F. Telfer and others of Collingwood, praying that an Act may
pass to incorporate the Hurontario Railway Company.
Of the Town Council of Kenora, praying that an Act may pass amending
Act of incorporation Cap. 83.55 Vic. hy repealing Sections 4 and 5 thereof.
Of the Toronto Suburban Railway Company, praying that an Act may
pass authorizing an extension of the line and for other purposes.
Of the Thunder Bay, Nepigon and St. Joe Railway Company, praying
that an Act may pass extending the time for commencement and completion
of the road.
Of W. S. Scott and others of Ottawa, respecting certain Legislation under
7 and 8 Edw. VII., Cap. 40 Dominion, as to Juvenile Delinquents.
Of the Township Council of Mono; also, of the Township Council of
Derby ; also, of William Bowden and others of Forest, severally praying for
certain amendments to the Assessment Act respecting the Taxation of Farm
Buildings.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time:—
Bill (No. 44), intituled "An Act respecting Simcoe Railway and Power
Company." Mr. Tudhope.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 172), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act.'' Mr.
Lennox.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 152), Rejecting
the Queen Victoria Niagara Falls Park, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith again
Deferred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the same.
96 2 IST FEBRUARY. 1910
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hoyle reported,
That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 153), To secure
payment of Wages for Labour performed in the construction of Works, having
been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith again
referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hoyle reported,
That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The following Bill was read the third time and passed :—
Bill (No. 17), [Respecting the Estate of Blanche Eleanor Leslie.
The House resolved itself into a Committee, severally to consider the
following Bills : —
Bill (No. 14), To amend the Act to incorporate the Ottawa Young Men's
Christian Association.
Bill (No. 1), To confirm By-law No. 9, of 1909, of the Town of
Thornbury.
Bill (No. 33), To confirm ceriain By-laws and an Agreement between the
Townships of Southwold and Yarmouth.
Bill (No. 31), Kespecting the City of London.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hoyle reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the several Bills without any amend-
ments.
Ordered. That the Bills reported, be severally read the third time To-
morrow.
Edw. VII. 21ST FEBRUARY. 97
On motion of Mr. McDougal, seconded by Mr. MacKay (Grey),
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Keturn showing: — (a)
What is the area of the Gillies Limit. (&) How much of the area has been
reported to the Government to be mineralized, (c) How much of the area
has been prospected, (d) How much of the area has been sold, (e) What
are the dates of the respective sales, the amount sold in each case, the names
of the purchasers and the prices obtained in each case.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 75 ),- To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 81), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 94), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 97), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into the Committee
of Supply.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That there be granted to His Majesty, for the services of
1909-10, the following sums:—
120. To defray the expenses of Public and Separate .School
Education $28,962 55
121. To defray the expenses of Normal and Model Schools,
Toronto 550 00
122. To defray the expenses of Normal and Model Schools,
Ottawa 2,393 00
123. To defray the expenses of the Normal School, Hamilton. . 200 00
124. To defray the expenses of the Normal School, Peterborough 900 00
125. To defray the expenses of the Normal School, North Bay 675 00
120. To- defray the expenses of High Schools and Collegiate
Institutes .. 5,200 00
2 IST FEBRUARY. 1910
127. To defray the expenses of Departmental Library and
Museum \ $1,100 00
128. To defray the expenses of Public Libraries, Art Schools,
Historical, Literary and Scientific Societies 100 00
129. To defray the expenses of Agricultural and Mining Educa-
tion 8,600 00
130. To defray the expenses of Maintenance Education Depart-
ment and Miscellaneous 1,300 00
131. To defray the expenses of Institution for the Deaf and
Dumb, Belleville 1,250 00
132. To defray the expenses of Institution for the Blind, Brant-
ford 3,350 00
133. To defray the expenses of maintenance of Hospital for the
Insane, Brockville 3,000 00
134. To defray the expenses of maintenance of Hospital for the
Insane, Cobourg - 200 00
135. To defray the expenses of maintenance of Hospital for the
Insane, Hamilton 2,250 00
136. To defray the expenses of maintenance of Hospital for the
Insane, Kingston 350 00
137. To defray the expenses of maintenance of Hospital for the
Insane, London 300 00
138. To defray the expenses of maintenance of Hospital for the
Insane, Mimico 850 00
139. To defray the expenses of maintenance of Hospital for
Idiots, Orillia 1,750 00
140. To defray the expenses of maintenance of Hospital for the
Insane, Penetanguishene 300 00
141. To defray the expenses of maintenance of Hospital for the
Insane, Toronto 1,750 00
142. To defray the expenses of maintenance of Hospital for
Epileptics, Woodstock 2,000 00
143. To defray the expenses of maintenance of Central Prison,
Toronto 3,550 00
144. To defray the expenses of Central Prison Industries 250 00
145. To defray the expenses of maintenance of the Andrew
Mercer Eef ormatory for Females, Toronto 700 00
146. To defray the expenses of Agricultural and Horticultural
Societies 3,670 00
147. To defray the expenses of the Live Stock Branch 1,758 00
148. To defray the expenses of Institutes 2,750 00
149. To defray the expenses of Dairy Branch 2,020 00
150. To defray the expenses of Fruit Branch . 2,570 00
151. To defray the expenses of Ontario Veterinary College. . . . 7,000 00
152. To defray the expenses of Miscellaneous 2,500 00
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153. To defray the expenses of Agricultural College $10,350 00
154. Te defray the expenses of Macdonald Institute and Hall . . 1,650 00
155. To defray the expenses of Field Experiments 500 00
156. To defray the expenses of Experimental Dairy Department 525 00
157. To defray the expenses of Agricultural Department 750 00
158. To defray the expenses of Soil Physics Department 3,000 Otf
160. To defray the expenses of Stationary Engineers 100 00
161. To defray the expenses of Hospitals and Charities 41,750 00
162. To defray the expenses of maintenance and repairs to
Government House 4,187 58
163. To defray the expenses of maintenance and repairs to Par-
liament Buildings 211,121 00
164. To defray the expenses of works at Osgoode Hall 20,425 18
165. To defray the expenses of works at Hospital for Insane,
Brockville 16,000 00
166. To defray the expenses of works at Hospital for Insane,
Cobourg 3,300 00
167. To defray the expenses of works at Hospital for Insane,
Hamilton 16,800 00
168. To defray the expenses of works at Hospital for Insane,
Kingston , . 23,000 00
169. To defray the expenses of works at Hospital for Insane,
London 16,570 00
170. To defray the expenses of works at Hospital for Insane,
Mimico 19,400 00
171. To defray the expenses of works at Hospital for Idiots,
Orillia 14,000 00
172. To defray the expenses of works at Hospital for Insane,
Penetanguishene 14,500 00
173. To defray the expenses of works at Hospital for Insane,
Toronto ., 9,000 00
174. To defray the exenses of works at Hospital for Epileptics. . 6,500 00
175. To defray the expenses of works at Central Prison, Toronto 129,500 00
176. To defray the expenses of works at the Andrew Mercer
Reformatory for Females, Toronto 5,000 00
177. To defray the expenses of works at Normal and Model
Schools, Toronto 15,970 00
178. To defray the expenses of works at Normal and Model
Schools, Ottawa 2,400 00
179. To defray the expenses of works at Normal and Model
Schools, London 900 00
180. To defray the expenses of works at Normal School,
Hamilton 1,300 00
181. To defray the expenses of works at Normal School, Peter-
borough 3,600 00
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182. To defray the expenses of works at Normal School, Strat-
ford $2,300 00
183. To defray the expenses of works at Normal School, North
Bay 5,600 00
184. To defray the expenses of New Normal Schools 7,558 00
185. To defray the expenses of works at the Institution for the
Deaf and Dumb, Belleville 8,100 00
186. To defray the expenses of works at the Institution for the
Blind, Brantford 10,774 00
187. To defray the expenses of works at the Agricultural College 1,800 00
188. To defray the expenses of works at the Eastern Dairy
School 500 00
189. To defray the expenses of works at Experimental Fruit
Farm, Jordan Harbour 600 00
190. To defray the expenses of works at Winter Fair Buildings,
Guelph 1,000 00
192. To defray the expenses of works in Muskoka District. . . . 913 42
193. To defray the expenses of works in Nipissing District. . . . 5,887 85
194. To defray the expenses of works in Parry Sound District. . 700 00
195. To defray the expenses of works in Manitoulin District. . 400 00
196. To defray the expenses of works in Sudbury District. . . . 3,997 00
197. To defray the expenses of works in Sault Ste. Marie Dis-
trict 2,500 00
198. To defray the expenses of works in Kainy Kiver District. . 1,530 00
199. To defray the expenses of works in Thunder Bay District 2,301 95
200. To defray the expenses of works in Kenora District 29,075 00
201. To defray the expenses of Public Works 175,697 00
202. To defray the expenses of Charges on Crown Lands 114,400 00
203. To defray the expenses of Eefund Account (Succession
Duty) 33,000 00
204. To defray the expenses of Refund Account, Lands, Forests
and Mines 1,250 00
205. To defray the expenses of Refund Account, Land Improve-
ment Fund 1,338 04
206. To defray the expenses of Miscellaneous 2,603,132 66
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Hoyle reported, That the Com-
mittee had come to several Resolutions ; also, That the Committee had directed
him to ask for leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received To-morrow.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
Edw. VII. 21sT AND 22ND FEBRUARY. 101
Mr. Hanna- presented to the House, by command of His Honour the
Lientenant-Governor : —
Report of the Minister of Education of the Province of On t aria, for the
year 1909. (Sessional Papers No. 16.)
Also — Report of the registration of Births, Marriages and Deaths, for the
year 1908, (Sessional Papers No. 19.)
Also — Report of the Provincial Board of Health, for the, year 190.9.
(Sessional Papers No. 20.)
Also — Report of the Milk Commission appointed to enquire into the pro-
duction, care and distribution of Milk. (Sessional Papers No. 55.)
The House then adjourned at 5.40 P.M.
Tuesday, 22nd February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'Clock, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:-
Mr. Preston (Rainy River), the Petition of the Municipality of Emo;
also, the Petition of the Township Council of Chappie.
By Mr. Eraser, the Petition of Erancis R. Lalor and others, of Dunnville.
By Mr. Studholme, three Petitions of the Trades and Labour Association,
of Ottawa.
By Mr. Lennox, the Petition of the Cobalt Lake Mining Company,
Limited.
By Mr. Fripp, the Petition of Crawford Ross and others, of Ottawa.
By Mr. Lackner, the Petition of the Twin City Trades and Labour Council,
of Berlin.
102 22ND FEBRUARY. 1910
The following Petitions were read and received: —
Of the City Council of Guelph, praying that an Act may pass to ratify
and confirm certain By-laws providing for the issue of debentures ; the borrow-
ing of money and for other purposes.
Of the Township Council of York, praying for certain amendments to
the Municipal Act respecting Sinking Funds.
Of the Township Council of York, praying for certain amendments to the
Municipal Act, respecting the borrowing of money.
Of the Township Council of York, praying for certain amendments to the
Municipal Act and Amendments of 1904 and 1909.
Of the Fourth Branch of the Amalgamated Society of Carpenters, of
Toronto; also, of the Township Council of East Zorra; also, of the Town
Council of Deseronto, severally praying for certain amendments to the Assess-
ment Act respecting the Taxation of Farm Buildings.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 174), intituled "An Act to revise and amend the Chartered
Accountants Act." Mr. Johnson.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 175), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act.'1 Mr.
Fripp.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 176), intituled "An Act to amend the Temiskaming and
Northern Ontario Railway Act." Mr. Reaume.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the third time and passed : —
Bill (No. 8), Respecting the Oshawa Young Men's Christian Association.
Bill (No. 15), Respecting the St. Thomas Cemetery Company.
Bill (No. 14), To amend the Act to incorporate the Ottawa Young Men's
Christian Association.
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Bill (No. 1), To confirm By-law No. 9, of 1909, of the Town of Thorn-
bury.
Bill (No. 33), To confirm certain By-laws and an Agreement between the
Townships of Southwold and Yarmouth.
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into the Committee
of Supply.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That there be granted to His Majesty, for the services of 1909-
10, the following sums: —
159. To defray the expenses of Colonization and Immigration. . $ 15,175 00
191. To defray the expenses of works re Colonization and Immi-
gration Offices, London, England 17,000 00
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported,
That the Committee had come to several Resolutions ; also, That the Committee
had directed him to ask for leave to sit again.
Ordered, That the Report be received To-morrow.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported the following Resolutions from the
Committee of Supply: —
78. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Office of the Prime Minister
for the j'ear ending 31st October, 1910.
79. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four hundred and five dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Attorney General's
Department for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
80. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five hundred and fifty dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Audit of Criminal Justice
Accounts for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
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81. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding fifty dollars be granted to His
Majesty to defray the expenses of Insurance Inspection for the year ending 31st
October, 1910.
82. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four hundred and fifty dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Ontario Railway and
Municipal Board for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
83. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Education Department for the
year ending 31st October, 1910.
84. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Department of Lands, Forests
and Mines for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
85. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three hundred and twenty-five
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Land Sales and
Free Grants Branch for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
86. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Military Grants Branch for the year
ending 31st October, 1910.
87. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eight hundred and seventy-five
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Surveys and Patents
Branch for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
88. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six hundred and twenty-five dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Woods and Forests
Branch for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
89. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand four hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Accounts
Branch for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
90. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand one hundred and
fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Bureau
of Mines for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
91. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six thousand six hundred and fifty
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Public Works
Department for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
Edw. VII. 22ND FEBRUARY. 105
92. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and fifty dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Highways Branch for
the year ending 31st October, 1910.
93. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty dollars be granted to His
Majesty to defray the expenses of Colonization Eoads Branch for the year ending
31st October, 1910.
94. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four hundred and fifty dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Fisheries and Game Branch
for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
95. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Nine hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Labour Bureau for the year ending
31st October, 1910.
96. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand three hundred
and forty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Treasury Department for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
97. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Succession Duties Branch for
the year ending 31st October, 1910.
98. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand three hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Auditor's
Office for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
99. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eight thousand nine hundred
and twenty-five dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
the Provincial Secretary's Department for the year ending 31st October,
1910.
100. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand nine hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Inspec-
tion of Public Institutions for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
101. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand nine hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
License Branch for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
102. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand three hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Registrar General's Branch for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
lOf, 22ND FEBRUARY. 1910
103. Eesolved, That a sum not exceeding Three thousand and filty
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Provincial
Board of Health for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
104. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Neglected Children's Branch
for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
105. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand two hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Depart-
ment of Agriculture for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
106. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand four hundred
and twenty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
Colonization for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
107. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand five hundred
and seventy dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
Factory Inspection Branch for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
108. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and fifty dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Miscellaneous for the year
ending 31st October, 1910.
109. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-six thousand one hun-
dred and sixty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
Legislation for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
110. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five hundred and twenty-five
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Supreme
Court of Judicature for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
111. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and seventy-five
dollars and twenty-five cents be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses
of the Court of Appeal for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
112. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and twenty -five
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Surrogate
Office for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
113. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six hundred and eighty-four
dollars and ninety-three cents be granted to His Majesty to defray the ex-
penses of the Commutation of Fees for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
)
114. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six hundred and fifty dollars
Edw. VII. 22ND FEBRUARY. 107
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Inspection of Division
Courts for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
115. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand seven hundred
and eighty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Land Titles Offices for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
116. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four hundred and fifty-six
dollars and nine cents be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Deputy Clerks of the Crown for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
117. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty-one thousand seven hun-
dred and eighty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
Miscellaneous for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
118. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixty-five dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Local Registrar, Kenora, for the
year ending 31st October, 1910.
119. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Police Magistrate, Muskoka, for
the year ending 31st October, 1910.
120. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-eight thousand nine
hundred and sixty-two dollars and fifty-five cents be granted to His Majesty
to defray the expenses of Public and Separate School Education for the
year ending 31st October, 1910.
121. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five hundred and fifty
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Normal and
Model Schools, Toronto, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
122. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand three hundred
and ninety-three dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
Normal and Model Schools, Ottawa, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
123. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Normal School, Hamilton,
for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
124. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Nine hundred dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Normal School, Peter-
borough, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
125. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six hundred and seventy-five
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Normal School,
North Bay, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
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120. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five thousand two hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of High Schools
and Collegiate Institutes for the year ending 31st October, ID 10
127. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand one hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Departmental
Library and Museum for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
128. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Public Libraries, Art
Schools, Historical, Literary and Scientific Societies for the year ending
31st October, 1910
129. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eight thousand six hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Agricultural
and Mining Education, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
130. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand three hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Maintenance
Education Department and Miscellaneous for the year ending 31st October,
1910
131. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand two hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Institution for the Deaf and Dumb, Belleville, for the year ending 31st
October, 1910.
132. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three thousand three hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Institution for the Blind, Brantford, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
133. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three thousand dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Hospital for Insane,
JBrockville, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
134. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Hospital for the Insane, Cobourg,
for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
135. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand two hundred and
fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Hospital
for the Insane, Hamilton, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
136. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three hundred and fifty dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Hospital for the
Insane, Kingston, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
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137. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three hundred dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Hospital for the Insane,
London, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
138. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eight hundred and fifty dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Hospital for the Insane,
Mimico, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
139. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand seven hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Hospital for Idiots, Orillia, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
140. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three hundred dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Hospital for the Insane,
Penetanguishene, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
141. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand seven hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Hospi-
tal for the Insane, Toronto, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
142. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Hospital for Epileptics, Wood-
stock, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
143. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three thousand five hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Cen-
tral Prison, Toronto, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
144. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred and fifty dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Central Prison
Industries, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
145. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seven hundred dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Andrew Mercer Reforma-
tory for Females for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
146. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three thousand six hundred and
seventy dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Agricul-
tural and Horticultural Societies for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
147. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand seven hundred
and fifty-eight dollars be granted :o His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Live Stock Branch, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
1.48. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand seven hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Farmers,
Women's and other Institutes for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
110 22ND FEBRUARY. 1910
149. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand and twenty dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Dairy Branch for
the year ending 31st October, 1910.
150. Resolved, That a sum. not exceeding Two thousand five hundred and
seventy dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Fruit Branch for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
151. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seven thousand dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Ontario Veterinary
College for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
152. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand five hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Miscellaneous for
the year ending 31st October, 1910.
153. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Ten thousand three hundred and
fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Ontario
Agricultural College for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
154. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand six hundred and
fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Macdon-
ald Institute and Hall, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
155. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Field Experiments for the year end-
ing 31st October, 1910.
156. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five hundred and twenty-five
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Experimental
Dairy Department for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
157. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seven hundred and fifty dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Apicultural Depart-
ment for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
158. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three thousand dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Soils Physics Depart-
ment for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
159. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifteen thousand one hundred
and seventy-five dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
Colonization and Immigration for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
160. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Stationary Engineers for the year
ending 31st October, 1910.
Edw. VII. 22ND FEBRUARY. Ill
161. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Forty-one thousand seven hun-
dred and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
Hospitals and Charities for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
162. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four thousand one hundred and
eighty-seven dollars and fifty-eight cents be granted to His Majesty to defray
the expenses of Maintenance and Repairs to Government House for the year
ending 31st October, 1910.
163. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred and eleven thou-
sand one hundred and twenty-one dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray
the expenses of Maintenance and Repairs to Parliament Buildings for the year
ending 31st October, 1910.
164. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty thousand four hundred
and twenty-five dollars and eighteen cents be granted to His Majesty to defray
the expenses of Works at Osgoode Hall, Toronto, for the year ending 31st
October, 1910.
165. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixteen thousand dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Hospital for Insane,
Brockville, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
166. Resolved, That, a sum not exceeding Three thousand three hundred
dollars be granted His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Hospital for
Insane, Cobourg, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
167. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixteen thousand eight hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Hospital
for Insane, Hamilton, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
168. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-three thousand dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Hospital for
Insane, Kingston, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
I
169. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixteen thousand five hundred
and seventy dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works
at Hospital for Insane, London, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
170. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Nineteen thousand four hun-
dred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at
Hospital for Insane, Mimico, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
171. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fourteen thousand dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Hospital for
Idiots, Orillia, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
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172. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fourteen thousand five hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Hospital
for Insane, Penetanguishene, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
173. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Nine thousand dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Hospital for Insanp, Toronto,
for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
174. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six thousand five hundred dol-
lars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Hospital for
Epileptics, Woodstock, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
175. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and twenty-nine
thousand five hundred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses
of Works at Central Prison, Toronto, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
176. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five thousand dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Mercer Reformatory for
Females, Toronto, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
177. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifteen thousand ni-ne hundred
and seventy dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works
at Normal and Model Schools, Toronto, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
178. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand four hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Normal
and Model Schools, Ottawa, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
179. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Nine hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Normal and Model School,
London, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
180. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand three hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Normal
School, Hamilton, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
181. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three thousand six hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Normal
School, Peterborough, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
182. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand three hundred-
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Normal
School, Stratford, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
183. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five thousand six hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Normal
School. North Bay, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
Edw. Vll. 22ND FEBRUARY. 113
184. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seven thousand five hundred and
fifty-eight dollars he granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at
New Normal Schools for the year ending 31st October, 1910,
185. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eight thousand one hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Deaf and
Dumb Institute, Belleville, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
186. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Ten thousand seven hundred
and seventy-four dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses
of Works at Blind Institute, Brantford, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
187. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand eight hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Agricul-
tural College, Gnclph, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
188. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Eastern Dairy School for
the year ending 31st October, 1910.
180. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Experimental Fruit Farm,
Jordan Harbour, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
190. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Winter Fair Buildings,
Guelph, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
191. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seventeen thousand dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works at Colonization and
Immigration Buildings, London, England, for the year ending 31st October,
1910.
192. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Nine hundred and thirteen
dollars and forty-two cents be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
Works in Muskoka District, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
t
193. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five thousand eight hundred
and eighty-seven dollars and eighty-five cents be granted to His Majesty to
defray the expenses of Works in Nipissing District for the year ending 31st
October, 1910.
194. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seven hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works in Parry Sound District for
the year ending 31st October, 1910.
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195. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four hundred dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works in Manitoulin District for
the year ending 31st October, 1910.
196. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three thousand nine hundred
and ninety-seven dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
Works in Sudbury District for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
197. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand five hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works in the Sault
Ste. Marie District for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
198. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand five hundred and
thirty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works in
Rainy River District for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
199. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two thousand three hundred
and one dollars and ninety-five cents be granted to His Majesty to defray
the expenses of Works in Thunder Bay 1 Hstrict for the year ending 31st
October, 1910.
200. 'Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-nine thousand and
seventy-five dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Works
in Kenora District for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
201. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and seventy-five
thousand six hundred and ninety-seven dollars be granted to His Majesty to
defray the expenses of Public Works for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
202. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and fourteen
thousand four hundred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses
of Charges on Crown Lands for the year ending 31,st October, 1910.
203. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirty-three thousand dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Eefund Account — Succes-
sion Duty — for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
204. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand two hundred and
fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Refund
Account — Lands, Forests and Mines — for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
i
205. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand three hundred
and thirty-eight dollars and four cents be granted to His Majesty to defray
the expenses of Refund Account — Land Improvement Fund — for the year end-
ing 31st October, 1910.
Edw. VII. 22ND FEBRUARY. 115
206. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two millions six hundred and
three thousand one hundred and thirty-two dollars and sixty-six cents be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Miscellaneous for the year
snding -'Hst October, 1910.
The several Resolutions, having been read the second time, were concurred
in.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 72), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 160), To amend the Judicature Act.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 161), To amend the Act respecting the Property of Religious
Institutions.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow. •
Bill (No. 168), To amend the Landlord and Tenants Act.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 71), To amend
the Municipal Act, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 73), To amend
the Municipal Act, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The House resolved itself into a 'Committee, severally to consider the fol-
lowing Bills : —
Bill (No. 4), To incorporate the Nickel Range Railway Company.
116 22ND AND 23RD FEBRUARY. 1910
Bill (No. 10) , Respecting the Western Central Railway Company.
Bill (No. 11), To incorporate the Wahnapitae Railway Company.
Bill (No. 13), To amend the Act respecting the Bruce Mines and Algoma
Railway Company.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Thompson (Simcoe) reported,
That the Committee had directed him to report the several Bills without any
amendments.
Ordered, Thai the Bills reported, be severally read the third time To-
morrow.
On motion of Mr. Reed (Wentworth), seconded by Mr. McDougal,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Return of all Awards by
any Arbitrator of Board of Arbitration, to settle disputes between the Hydro-
Electric Power Commission and those over whose lands the Commission have
taken Easements.
The House then adjourned at 6 P.M.
Wednesday, 23rd February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'Clock, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
Mr. Shaw, the Petition of the City Council of Toronto.
Mr. Downey, the Petition of the Board of Trade, Guelph.
The following Petitions were read and received : —
Of Francis R. Lalor and others, of Dunnville, praying that an Act may
pass to incorporate the Niagara Falls, Welland and Dunnville Electric Railway
Company.
Edw. VII. 23RD FEBRUARY. 117
Of the Cobalt Lake Mining Company, Limited, praying that an Act may
pass to authorize the Company to reduce its Capital Stock from $5,000,000
to $3,500,000.
Of Crawford Ross and others, of Ottawa, respecting exemption from pay-
ment of Income Tax.
Of the Twin City Trades and Labour Council of Berlin ; also, three Peti-
tions of the Trades and Labour Association ol uttawa; also, of the Township
Council of Chappie ; also, of the Municipal Councl of Emo, severally praying
for certain amendments to the Assessment Act, respecting the Taxation of
Farm Buildings.
Mr. Hoyle, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented
their Seventh Report, which was read as follows and adopted: —
The Committee have carefully examined the following Petitions and find
the Notices, as published, in each case sufficient:
Of the Morrisburg Electric Railway Company, praying that an Act may
pass to amend their Act of Incorporation.
Of Charles W. Chadwick and others, of Kenora, praying that an Act may
pass extending the time for commencement and completion of the Lac Seul,
Rat Portage and Keewatin Railway.
Of Lester McDonnell Coulter, of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass
authorizing him to practise as a Physician and Surgeon in Ontario.
Of the City Council of Brantford, praying that an Act may pass enabling
the Corporation to effect changes in the mode of maintaining the John H. Strat-
ford Hospital and to ratify and confirm certain By-laws re issue of debentures
and for other purposes.
Of John Smallman and others, of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass
to incorporate the Artesian Water Company, Limited.
Of the City Council of Ottawa, praying that an Act may pass authorizing
the issue of certain Debentures for Fire Stations, Park purposes, etc., to amend
certain Acts relating to the Corporation and for other purposes.
Of the City Council of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass to authorize
the expenditure of certain moneys; to ratify and confirm certain By-laws and
for other purposes.
Of the City Council of Hamilton, praying that an Act may pass authoriz-
118 23RD FEBRUARY. 1910
ing the Corporation to levy the same rate of taxation in respect to annexed
portions of the City as is levied in the older portion; to pass certain By-laws
and for other purposes.
Of the Town Council of Barrie, praying that an Act may pass to ratify
and confirm a certain By-law and Agreement relating to the Barrie Tanning
Company, Limited.
Of the Monarch Fire Insurance Company, praying that an Act may pass
to ratify and confirm a certain By-law relative to and reducing the Capital
Stock of the Company.
Of Ingersoll Olmstead and others, of Hamilton, praying that an Act may
pass to incorporate the Hamilton School of Anatomy.
Of the Township Council of York, praying that an Act may pass to amend
the Act 9 Edw. VII., c. 126, relating to the Township by changing certain words
in Sec. 1.
Of the Iron Range Railway Company, praying that an Act may pass
extending the time for the commencement and completion of the road.
Of the City Council of St. Catharines, praying that an Act may pass to
ratify and confirm By-law 'No. 2116 respecting the St. Catharines Woollen
Mills, Limited.
Of the City Council of St. Catharines, praying that an Act may pass to
ratify and confirm By-law !N"o. 2126 of the City in aid of the Monarch Knit-
ting Company.
Of the City Council of Guelph, praying that an Act may pass to ratify
and confirm certain By-laws providing for the issue of debentures ; the borrow-
ing of money and for otfrer purposes.
Of the City Council of Windsor, praying that an Act may pass to amend
7 Edw. VII., Cap. 97, sec. 1, extending the time for granting Bonuses from
five to eight years.
Of the Woodstock Young Men's Christian Association, praying that an
Act may pass to enable the holding of real estate and to exempt property from
taxation except for local improvements.
Of the Town Council of Brampton, praying that an Act may pass to
ratify and confirm certain By-laws.
Of the Mississippi River Improvement Company, praying that an Act
Edw. VII. 23RD FEBRUARY. 119
may pass authorizing the Company to collect tolls along the Mississippi River
and for other purposes.
Of the Town Council of Cobalt and the Township Council of Coleman,
praying that an Act may pass to ratify a certain Agreement between the Cor-
porations respecting Water Supply and Sewage System in and for said Town.
The Committee recommend that Rule ISTo. 51 of this Honourable House
be further suspended in this, that the time for introducing Private Bills be
further extended until and inclusive of Friday the Twenty-fifth day of Febru-
ary instant, this extension being necessary so as to admit of Bills — the Petitions
for which are presented To-day — the time limited in the last Report of the'
Committee — being introduced to the House.
Mr. Hoyle, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented
their Eighth "Report, which was read as follows and adopted: —
The Committee have carefully examined the Petition of Campbell Black
and others, of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the
Osteopathic College of Ontario and find that notice of the proposed applica-
tion of this Legislature was published in the " Ontario Gazette " fv>i a period
of six weeks but that no notice has been published in any local newspaper.
The Committee are cf the opinion that notice should have been published
in some local newspaper as required by the Rules of this Honourable House,
so that the public might have had an opportunity of becoming aware of the
proposed legislation.
The Committee would therefore recommend that the Rules of this Hon-
ourable House, not having been complied with, the notices as published be not
considered sufficient and that the matter be not further proceeded with.
Mr. Hoyle, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented
their Ninth Report, which was read as follows and adopted: —
The Committee have carefully examined the Petition of Frank H. Telfer
and others, of Collingwood, praying that an Act may pass to incorporate the
Hurontario Railway Company and find that notice of the proposed application
to this Legislature has been published a sufficient length of time in the " On-
tario Gazette " and in a newspaper published in the County of Simcoe.
The Committee find that the Petition asks for power to construct a line
of railway from a point at, or near, the Town of Collingwood to the Town of
120 23RD FEBRUARY. 1910
Barrie, the notice, in addition to this, asks " to continue and perpetuate as part
of the Act, the whole or any provision of the Act 38 Victoria, Cap. 50," which
Act authorizes the construction of a railway from some point at or near Toronto,
on the shore of Lake Ontario, to some point on the shore of the Georgian Bay.
The Committee recommend that the attention of the Railway Committee
be directed to this matter so that when the Bill, founded on this Petition, comes
before that Committee, the location of the route of the railway be made to
conform to that set out in the Petition.
Mr. Lucas, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, presented
their Third Report, which was read as follows and adopted: —
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bill and report
the same without amendment:
Bill (No. 23), Respecting the Estate of Charles Northcote.
The Committee have also carefully considered the following Bills and
report the same with certain amendments:
Bill (No. 19), To confirm By-law 2106 of the City of St. Catharines.
Bill (No. 24), Respecting the Town of Niagara and Henry Winnett.
Bill (No. 25), Respecting the Town of Port Hope.
The Committee recommend that, notwithstanding Rule 51 of this Hon-
ourable House, the time for receiving Reports from Committees on Private
Bills be extended to and inclusive of Friday the fourth day of March next.
Ordered, That the time for presenting Petitions for Private Bills, be
further extended until and inclusive of Friday the Twenty-fifth day of Feb-
ruary, instant.
Ordered, That the time for receiving Reports from Committees on Private
Bills be extended until and inclusive of Friday the Fourth day of March next.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 55), intituled "An Act respecting levying and collecting Tolls
on the Mississippi River." Mr. Preston (Lanark.)
Referred to the Private Bills Committee.
Edw. VII. 23RD FEBRUARY. 121
Bill (No. 41), intituled "An Act respecting the City of Brantford and
the John H. Stratford Hospital." Mr. Brewster.
Referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills.
Bill (No. 50), intituled "An Act respecting the Lac Seul, Rat Portage
and Keewatin Railway Company." Mr. Machin.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 29), intituled " An Act to confirm By-law No. 2116 of the City
of St. Catharines." Mr. Jessop.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 26), intituled "An Act to authorize Lester McDonnell Coulter
to practfse Medicine in the Province of Ontario." Mr. McPherson.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 99), intituled "An Act to confirm an Agreement between the
Town of Cobalt and the Township of Coleman." Mr. Shillington.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 59), intituled "An Act respecting the City of Toronto." Mr.
Shaw.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 49), intituled " An Act respecting the Iron Range Railway
Company." Mr. Smellie.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 51), intituled " An Act respecting the Morrisburg Electric Rail-
way Company." Mr. Ferguson (Grenville.)
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 93), intituled " An Act to amend an Act respecting the Town-
ship of York." Mr. McCowan.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 39), intituled "An Act respecting the Town of Brampton."
Mr. Charters.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
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Bill (No. 28), intituled "An Act to incorporate the Hamilton School of
Anatomy." Mr. Wilson.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 53), intituled "An Act respecting the City of Ottawa."
Mr. Fripp.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 42), intituled "An Act to confirm By-law No. 2126 of the
City of St. Catharines and the Agreement therein mentioned." Mr. Jessop. -
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 48), intituled "An Act to incorporate Artesian Water Com-
pany, Limited." Mr. Godfrey.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 36), intituled " An Act respecting the Monarch Fire Insurance
Company, Cash, Mutual and Stock." Mr. Neely.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 38), intituled "An Act respecting the City of Hamilton,"
Mr. Hendrie.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 46), intituled " An Act respecting the City of Windsor."
Mr. Preston (Durham.)
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill. (No. 58), intituled "An Act respecting the Young Men's Christian
Association of Woodstock, Ontario." Mr. Mackay (Oxford.)
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 27), intituled " An Act respecting By-law No. 663 of the Town
of Barrie." Mr. Thompson (Simcoe.)
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 163), intituled "An Act to incorporate the Hurontario Rail-
way Company." Mr. Thompson (Simcoe.)
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
tiaw. VII. #3RD FEBRUARY. 123
Bill (No. 178), intituled " An Act to amend the Workmen's Compensation
Act." Mr. Eraser.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 179), intituled "The Municipal Drainage Act." Mr. Hanna.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Mr. Machin asked the following Question :
(1) Has the Attorney-General received any communication from one W.
W. Baby with reference to reimbursing said BaBy for certain Law Costs paid
by him in the suit of the Attorney-General of Ontario vs. Cameron. (2) If
so, has the matter been considered. (3) What, if any, relief will be granted
the said Baby.
To which the Attorney-General replied in the words following: —
(1) Yes. (2) This matter was considered in January 1903, by the then
Attorney-General, when it was determined that Mr. Baby should not be in-
demnified by the Crown in respect of any costs. The matter was further con-
sidered in May 1906, by the present Attorney-General, when the conclusion
was reached that there was no ground or reason why the Government should
make Mr. Baby any compensation or give him any allowance. (3) In view
of the above the case does not seem to call for any relief.
The following Bills were severally read the second time: —
Bill (No. 86), To amend the Act for the protection of Sheep and to
impose a Tax on Dogs.
Referred to the Committee on Agriculture and Colonization.
Bill (No. 98), To amend the Public Health Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. Kif)), To amend the Ditches and Watercourses Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 96), To amend the Division Courts Act.
Referred to the Committee of the Whole House on Bill (No. 116), Re-
specting Division Courts.
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Bill (No. 88), The Ontario Telephone Act, 1910.
Referred to a Select Committee to be hereafter named.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 68), To amend
the Division Courts Act having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
On motion of Sir James Whitney, seconded by Mr. Foy.
Resolved, That when this House adjourns To-day, it do stand adjourned
until Four of the Clock of To-morrow the Twenty-fourth day of February,
instant.
The House then adjourned at 5 P.M.
Thursday, 24th February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 4 O'Clock, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Mr. McNaught, the Petition of the Bakers' and Confectioners' Inter-
national Union, of Toronto.
By Mr. Grigg, the Petition of Town Council of Blind River.
The following Petitions were read and received: —
Of the Board of Trade, Guelph, praying for certain Legislation respecting
accidents at level crossings on railways.
Of the City Council of Toronto, praying that an Act may pass authorizing
the payment of $200,000 towards the Toronto General Hospital site.
Edw. VII. 24TH FEBRUARY. 125
Mr. Hendrie, from the Standing Committee on Railways, presented their
Second Report, which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bills and have
prepared certain amendments thereto respectively: —
. 37), To incorporate the Toronto, Haliburton and Pembroke
Railway Company.
Bill (No. 30), Respecting the Dunnville, Wellandport and Beamsville
Electric Railway Company, and
Bill (No. 35), Respecting the North Midland Railway Company.
The Committee have also amended the Preambles to the said Bills so as
to make the same conform with the facts as they appear to the Committee.
Mr. Lucas, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, presented
their Fourth Report, which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bill and report the
same without amendment: —
Bill (No. 40), Respecting the St. Thomas Street Railway.
The Committee have also carefully considered the following Bill and
report the same with certain amendments : —
Bill (No. 2), To confirm By-law 502 of the Town of Campbellford.
The Committee recommend that the time for introducing Private Bills be
extended to, and inclusive of, Tuesday, the First day of March, 1910.
Ordered, That the time for introducing Private Bills be further extended
until, and inclusive of, Tuesday, the First day of March next.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 52), intituled "An Act to amend and consolidate the Acts incor-
porating the Fort Erie Ferry Railway Company, and to change the name
thereof to the Buffalo and Fort Erie Ferry and Railway Company." Mr.
McPherson.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
126 MTH FEBRUARY. 1910
Bill (No. 171), intituled "An Act respecting the Registration of Instru-
ments relating to Lands." Mr. Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 180), intituled "An Act to repeal the Act respecting the Manu-
facture and Sale of Bread." Mr. McNaught.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 181), intituled, "An Act respecting Mortmain and the Disposi-
tion of Land for Charitable Uses." Mr. Lennox.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 182), intituled "An Act to amend the Assessment Act." Mr.
Fripp.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 183), intituled "An Act to amend the Act respecting Statute
Labour." Mr. Hearst.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 146), Respecting
Liens of Mechanics, Wage-earners and others, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to* a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly . resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Ferguson
(Grenville) reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 130), Respecting
the Surrogate Courts, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson
(Grenville) reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
Edw. VII. 24TH FEBRUARY. 127
The following Bills were severally read the third time and passed : —
Bill (No. 4) , To incorporate the Nickel Kange Kailway Company.
Bill (No. 10), Eespecting the Western Central Railway Company.
Bill (No. 11), To incorporate the Wahnapitae Railway Company.
Bill No. 13), To amend the Act respecting the Bruce Mines and Algoma
Railway Company.
The following Bills were severally read the second time :—
Bill (No. 172), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 19), To confirm By-law No. 2106 of the City of St. Catharines
and the Agreement thereunto annexed.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 23), Respecting the Estate of Charles Northcote.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 24), Respecting the Town of Niagara and Henry Winnett.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 25), Respecting the Town of Port Hope.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 12),
Respecting the Trustees of the Toronto General Burying Grounds, and after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hoyle
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain
amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
128 24TH FEBRUARY. 1910
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 90), Respecting
Vaccination and Inoculation, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 64), To amend
the High Schools Act, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 76), To amend
the Municipal Act, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 69), To regu-
late the purchase, sale and transfer of stocks of goods in bulk, having been
read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 85), To amend
the Public Schools Act, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 87), To amend
the High Schools Act, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
Mr. Stock asked the following Question :
Has the Government considered the advisability (when next publishing
the Statutes of the Province upon the completion of the Revision thereof by
the Statute Revision Commission) of publishing in Separate volume the follow-
ing Acts, viz: — The Municipal Act; the Assessment Act; the Drainage Act;
the Ditches and Watercourses Act, and the Public Health Act, for the con-
venience of Members of Municipal Councils, Municipal Officers and other per-
sons who may wish to acquaint themselves with the laws pertaining to Municipal
affairs. If so, what is the Government's decision.
And the Attorney General replied,
Yes. Each of the Acts referred to, will be published in pamphlet form.
Edw. VII. 24TH AND 25TH FEBRUARY. 129
On motion of Mr. Lucas, seconded by Mr. Duff,
Resolved, That the following members do compose the Select Committee
ordered by this House on Bill (No. 88), The Ontario Telephone Act, 1910:
Messieurs Lucas, Charters, Brewster, Eilber, Ferguson (Grenville), Proud-
foot and Mayberry.
The House then adjourned at 6 P.M.
Friday, 25th February, 19iO.
PRAYERS. 3 O'Clock, P.M.
Mr. Speaker informed the House,
That the Clerk had received from the Railway and Municipal Board
appointed to enquire into Bills for the consolidation of a floating debt, or, for
the consolidation, or renewal, of debentures (other than local improvement
debentures), of a Municipal Corporation, their Report in the following case: —
Bill (No. 7), Respecting the Town of Penetanguishene.
The Report was then read by the Clerk, at the Table, as follows :—
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario.
The undersigned have had under consideration Bill (No. 7), intituled
"An Act respecting the Town of Penetanguishene" and the Petition therefor.
The Board have made enquiry into the allegations set out in the Bill and
into all other matters whi<^ the Board deem necessary in connection therewith,
and beg to report that it ij reasonable that such Bill do pass into law.
Dated this Twenty-fifth day of February, 1910.
JAMES LEITCH, Chairman.
A. B. INGRAM, Vice-Chairman-
Ordered, That Bill (No. 7), Respecting the Town of Penetanguishene,
be referred to the Committee on Private Bills, with instructions to consider
the same with reference to the suggestions of the Railway and Municipal
Board thereon.
130 25TH FEBRUARY. 1910
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
"By Mr. Racine, the Petition of the Township Council of Osgoode ; also,
the Petition of the Town Council of Rockland.
The following Petitions were read and received: —
Of the Bakers7 and Confectioners' International Union, of Toronto ; also,
of the Town Council of Blind River, severally praying for certain amendments
to the Assessment Act, respecting the Taxation of Farm Buildings.
Mr. Hoyle, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented
their Tenth Report, which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully examined the following Petitions and find
the Notices, as published, in each case sufficient: —
Of the Town Council of Durham, praying that an Act may pass to
confirm By-law No. 568, guaranteeing the Bonds of the McGowan Milling
Company to the extent of $15,000.
Of the Town Council of Trenton, praying that an Act may pass authorizing
the Corporation to purchase and, if necessary, expropriate the property of the
Trenton Electric and Water Company, Limited, and to issue debentures.
Of Francis R. Lalor and others, of Dunnville, praying that an Act may
pass to incorporate the Niagara Falls, Welland and Dunnville Electric Railway
Company.
Of the Cobalt Lake Mining Company, Limited, praying that an Act may
pass authorizing the Company to reduce the Capital Stock from $5,000,000
to $3,500,000.
Of the Toronto Suburban Railway Company, praying that an Act may
pass authorizing an extension of the line and for other purposes.
Of the Young Men's Christian Association, of Port Arthur, praying that
an Act may pass incorporating them, confirming conveyance of property and
exempting same from taxation.
Edw. VII. 25TH FEBRUARY. 131
Mr. Hoyle, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented
their Eleventh Report, which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully examined the Petition of the City Council
of Port Arthur, praying that an Act may pass to abolish the Electric Railway
and Light Commission; to ratify and confirm certain By-laws and for other
purposes, and find that notice of an application to this Legislature at its present
Session, by the said City of Port Arthur, has appeared a sufficient length of
time in the "Ontario Gazette," and have had evidence produced before them
shewing that the notice has also appeared in a newspaper published in the
City of Port Arthur.
The Committee find, that the Petition amongst other things asks "To
ratify and confirm all the Assessment and Collectors Rolls and all Tax Sales
of the City of Port Arthur up to date," and of this, no mention is made in the
notice.
The Committee recommend that when the Bill, founded on this Petition,
comes before the Private Bills Committee, their attention be directed to the
insufficiency of notice in this particular.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 56), intituled "An Act respecting the Town of Durham." Mr.
Jamieson.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 57), intituled "An Act respecting the Town of Trenton." Mr.
Johnson.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 45), intituled "An Act respecting the City of Port Arthur."
Mr. Carrick.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 54), intituled "An Act to incorporate the Young Men's
Christian Association, Port Arthur." Mr. Carrick.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 170), intituled "An Act respecting the Toronto Suburban Rail-
way Company." Mr. Downey.
i
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
132 25TH FEBRUARY. 1910
Bill (No. 173), intituled "An Act respecting the Cobalt Lake Mining
Company, Limited." Mr. Lennox.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 184), intituled "An Act to prevent Procreation of Confirmed
Criminals, Idiots, Imbeciles and Rapists." Mr. Godfrey.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 185), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act." Mr.
Pearce.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 186), intituled "The Ontario Medical Amendment Act, 1910."
Mr. Preston (Lanark.)
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 187), intituled "An Act to amend the Charity Aid Act." Mr.
Fripp.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
^ i!
Bill (No. 188), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Light and Heat
Act." Mr. McPherson.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 189), intituled "An Act to amend the Ontario Railway and
Municipal Board Act." Mr. McPherson.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 190), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act." Mr.
McPherson.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
On motion of Mr. Studholme, seconded by Mr. Reed (Wentworth),
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Return shewing: — 1.
How many Emigrants the Salvation Army brought out from Great Britain
and Ireland during the season of 1909. 2. How many were male and how
many female. 3. How many were placed in the homes of the farmers of the
Province of Ontario. 4. The names and addresses of the farmers. Also
shewing: — 1. How many Emigrants the Government of this Province brought
out from Great Britain and Ireland during the season of 1909. 2. How
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many were male and how many female. 3. How many were placed in the
homes of the farmers of the Province of Ontario. 4. The names and addresses
of the farmers. Also, shewing: — 1. How many farmers the Government in-
duced to come to the Province of Ontario during the year 1909. 2. How many
rented, leased, or purchased farms. 3. How many, and are they still on the
farms. 4. Shewing any who took up Government land, and if so, if they
purchased it or acquired it on the homesteading plan. 5. The names and
addresses of the farmers.
On motion of Mr. Proudfoot, seconded by Mr, Stock,
Ordered,, That there be laid before this House a Return shewing the total
amount paid for inspection and overseeing work done on and building of
Colonization roads during the years 1908 and 1909.
On motion of Mr. Stock, seconded by Mr. McEwing,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Return shewing: — 1
The amount of Provincial money (if any) loaned to Municipalities of the
Province for Drainage purposes during each of the years 1904 to 1909, both
inclusive. 2. The names of the Municipalities and the amount loaned to each
in each of the said years. 3. The rate of interest charged the Municipalities,
if other than four per cent. 4. The Special Grants (if any) given to Munici-
palities for Drainage Schemes during the said years, the names of the Munici-
palities to which given and the amount given each.
On motion of Mr. Proudfoot, seconded by Mr. Kohler,
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Return shewing: — 1.
When the resignation of the late Game Warden, T. A. Hand, was accepted.
Was it voluntary, or was he forced to resign. 2. What moneys had been col-
lected by the said Hand and not accounted for or returned and if Fishermen
had fished and Hunters had hunted on receipts only given by the said Hand.
If so, the amount of money unaccounted for and the number of such receipts
given and to whom, together with copies of all correspondence covering the
matters referred to in this clause. 3. All correspondence in connection with
the resignation of the said Hand. 4. All moneys collected by the said Hand
during the years 1907 and 1908 and of all moneys collected by the present
officer, A.' Calbeck, during the year 1909, together with the names of the per-
sons from whom the said collections were made. .
134 25TH FEBRUARY. 1910
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 2), To confirm By-law "No. 502 of the Town of Campbellford.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 40), Respecting the St. Thomas Street Railway.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 37), To incorporate the Toronto, Haliburton and Pembroke
Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 30), Respecting the Dunnville, Wellandport and Beamsville
Electric Railway.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 35), Respecting the North Midland Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 91), To amend
the Act respecting Solicitors, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 166), To amend
the Act for the Improvement of Public Highways, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 23),
Respecting the Estate of Charles Northcote, and after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 107),
Respecting Procedure before Justices of the Peace and Summary Convictions,
and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr.
Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report
the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
Edw. VII. 25TH AND 28TH FEBRUARY. 135
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 160),
To amend the Judicature Act, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 161),
To amend the Act respecting the Property of Keligious Institutions, and after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson
(Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill
with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House then adjourned at 4.05 P.M.
Monday, 28th February, 1910.
PRAYERS. 2.30 O'Clock P.M.
Mr. Speaker informed the House,
That the Clerk had received from the Commissioners of Estate Bills,
their Report in the following case: —
Bill (No. 41), Respecting the City of Brantford and the John H. Strat-
ford Hospital.
The Report was then read by the Clerk, at the Table, as follows: —
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario.
The undersigned have perused Bill (No. 41), intituled "An Act respect-
ing the City of Brantford and the John H. Stratford Hospital and have the
honour to report thereon as follows:
136 28TH FEBRUARY. 1910
1. If the late John H. Stratford, the Donor of the Hospital, left a widow
or children it is reasonable that they should be shewn to have had notice of
the Bill if their consent is not obtained thereto.
2. It is proposed by the Bill to create a corporation and to vest the abso-
lute control and management of the Hospital and of its property and of the
Staff in the Board of Governors but the property mentioned in Donor's deed
of gift is not transferred to, or vested in the, corporation. Presuming that it
was the intention that this should be done, (and it would seem to be a proper
provision in order to avoid confusion), we suggest that Section 2 should be
amended for the purpose as shewn in the foot margin of the Bill. If this
was not the intention, the amendment may be disregarded.
3. Some other slight verbal amendments in the language of the Bill are
also suggested.
4. Section 5 of the Bill has no relation to its principal object nor is its
purpose indicated by the title of the Bill. It is a clause confirming certain
by-laws of the City of Brantford and validating debentures and agreements
issued and made thereunder but which do not appear to have anything to do
with the Hospital and are out of place in. the Bill, as an Estate Bill. This
section and the Schedule B should be omitted.
5. Subject to the foregoing and assuming the allegations in the Preamble
to be proved to the satisfaction of your Honourable House, it is reasonable that
the Bill should pass into law.
6. The provisions of the Bill, with the changes suggested in its language,
are proper for carrying its purposes into effect.
All which is respectfully submitted.
February 28th, 1910.
F. OSLER, J.A.
J. T. GARROW, J.A.
Commissioners of Estate Bills.
Ordered, That Bill (No. 41), Eespecting the City of Brantford and the
John H. Stratford Hospital be referred to the Committee, on Private Bills with
instructions to consider the same with reference to the suggestions of the Com-
missioners of Estate Bills thereon.
Edw. VII. 28TH FEBRUARY. 137
The following Petitions were read and received: —
Of the Town Council of Rockland; also, of the Township Council of Os-
goode severally praying for certain amendments to the Assessment Act, respect-
ing the Taxation of Farm Buildings.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 95), intituled "An Act respecting the City of Guelph." Mr.
Downey.
Referred to the Committee on Private Bills.
Bill (No. 169), intituled "An Act to incorporate the Niagara Falls,
Welland and Dunnville Electric Railway Company." Mr. Fraser.
Referred to the Committee on Railways.
Bill (No. 191), intituled "An Act respecting Town Sites." Mr. Coch-
rane.
Ordered, That the Bill he read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 192), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act." Mr.
Brewster.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 193), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act." Mr.
Jessop.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 194), intituled "An Act to authorize and regulate the use of
Traction Engines on Highways." Mr. Brewster.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No.' 195), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act." Mr.
McPherson.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 196), intituled "An Act to amend the Judicature Act." Mr.
Foy.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Mr. Studholme asked the following Question:
1. Are the figures given on page IX. of the Report, for the year 1909> on
Hospitals for the Insane, under the head of "Deportation" reliabla 2. If
138 28TH FEBRUARY. 1910
so, is it within the knowledge of the Government, or the officers of the Depart-
ment, as to who was responsible for the sending to the Province of the several
individuals named. 3. Give names and addresses of such agents, or persons,
and state whether authorized, or not, and by whom.
To which the Provincial Secretary replied in the words following: —
1. The Report for the year 1909 is not printed. The figures given on
page IX. of the Eeport for 1908, are correct. 2. No. 3. See 2.
The House resolved itself into a Committee, severally to consider the fol-
lowing Bills : —
Bill (No. 19), To confirm By-law No. 2106 of the City of St. Catharines
and the Agreement thereunto annexed.
Bill (No. 24), Respecting the Town of Niagara.
Bill (No. 25), Respecting the Town of Port Hope.
Bill (No. 2), to confirm By-law No. 502 of the Town of Campbellford.
Bill (No. 40), Respecting the St. Thomas Street Railway.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clark (Bruce) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the several Bills without any
Amendments.
Ordered, That the Bills reported, be severally read the third time To-
morrow.
On motion of Mr. Proudfoot, seconded by Mr. MacKay (Grey),
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Return shewing: 1. The
names of the gentlemen who compose the Commission for the Revision of the
Statutes. 2. The total cost of the Revision of date, shewing in detail the persons
to whom and on what account the money was paid. 3. When the Statutes will
Edw. VII. 28TH FEBRUARY. 139
be completed. 4. What steps have the Government taken to induce or insist
on the Commissioners completing their work at an early date.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 174), To revise and amend the Chartered Accountants Act.
Referred to the Legal Committee.
Bill (No. 175), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 180), To repeal the Act respecting the Manufacture and Sale
of Bread.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Sir James Whitney delivered to Mr. Speaker a Message from the Lieu-
^enant-Governor, signed by himself; and the said Message was read by Mr.
Speaker, and is as follows: —
J. M. GIBSON.
The Lieutenant-Governor transmits further Supplementary Estimates of
certain sums required for the service of the Province for the year ending 31st
October, 1910, and recommends them to the Legislative Assembly.
GOVERNMENT HOUSE,
Toronto,. February 28th, 1910.
(Sessional Papers, No. 2.)
Ordered, That the Message of the Lieutenant-Governor, together with the
Estimates accompanying same, be referred to the Committee of Supply.
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into the Committee
of Supply.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That there be granted to His Majesty, for the services of 1909-10,
the following sums: —
207. To defray the expenses of Civil Government $3,000 00
140 28TH FEBRUARY. 1910
208. To defray the expenses of Legislation $100 00
209. To defray the expenses of Administration of Justice 400 00
210. To defray the expenses of Local Masters of Titles 986 70
211. To defray the expenses of Commutations of Fees 791 67
212. To defray the expenses of Miscellaneous 1,950 00
213. To defray the expenses of District of Algoma 50 00
214. To defray the expenses of District of Kenora 200 00
215. To defray the expenses of Public and Separate School Educa-
tion 12,100 00
216. To defray the expenses of Ottawa Normal and Model Schools 50 00
217. To defray the expenses of the London Normal School 50 00
218. To defray the expenses of the Hamilton Normal School. ... 60 00
219. To defray the expenses of Departmental Library and Museum 100 00
220. To defray the expenses of Public Libraries, Historical and
other Societies 800 00
221. To defray the expenses of Institutions for Deaf and Dumb,
Belleville 100 00
222. To defray the expenses of Institution for Blind, Brantford. . 550 00
223. To defray the expenses of Public Institutions Maintenance. . 150 00
224. To defray the expenses of Agricultural and Horticultural
Societies 7,000 00
225. To defray the expenses 6f Live Stock Branch 3,225 00
226. To defray the expenses of the Ontario Veterinary College. . 200 00
227. To defray the expenses of Agriculture — Miscellaneous.... 3,750 00
228. To defray the expenses of Ontario Agricultural College 800 00
229. To defray the expenses of Colonization and Immigration. . . . 11,200 00
230. To defray the expenses of Hospitals and Charities 5,000 00
231. To defray the expenses of Maintenance and repairs of Govern-
ment Buildings 8,400 00
232. To defray the expenses for Government House 125,000 00
233. To defray the expenses for Colonization and Immigration. . . . 445 71
234. To defray the expenses for Hospital for Insane, Mimico .... 200 00
235. To defray the expenses for Hospital for Insane, Penetangui-
shene 400 00
236. To defray the expenses for Hospital for Insane, Hamilton. . . 12,000 00
237. To defray the expenses for Hospital for Insane, London. . . . 25,000 00
238. To defray the expenses of Osgoode Hall 50,000 00
239. To defray the expenses of Children's Shelter 500 00
240. To defray the expenses of Ontario Agricultural College. . . . 15,950 00
241. To defray the expenses of Eastern Dairy School 3,000 00
242. To defray the expenses of Hygienic Building, London 7,800 00
243. To defray the expenses of London Normal School 90 00
244. To defray the expenses of Toronto Normal and Model Schools 625 00
245. To defray the expenses of Ottawa Normal and Model Schools 260 00
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246. To defray the expenses of Institution for Deaf and Dumb,
Belleville $625 00
247. To defray the expenses of Thunder Bay District . . 811 36
248. To defray the expenses of Sudbury District 450 00
249. To defray the expenses of Nipissing District 1,500 00
250. To defray the expenses of Muskoka District 91 .71
251. To defray the expenses of Manitoulin District 200 00
252. To defray the expenses of Public Works 37,940 00
253. To defray the expenses of Colonization Koads — Northern
Division 121,907 00
254. To defray the expenses of Colonization Roads — West Division 28,050 00
255. To defray the expenses of Colonization Roads — East Division 69,146 50
256. To defray the expenses of Colonization Roads — Temiskaming
District 57,980 00
257. To defray the expenses of Colonization Roads — General . . 187,273 49
258. To defray the expenses of Charges on Crown Lands 3,350 00
259. To defray the expenses of Miscellaneous 4,975 00
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clark (Bruce) reported, That
the Committee had come to several Resolutions ; also, That the Committee had
directed him to ask for leave to sit a^ain.
O
Ordered, That the Report be received To-morrow.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House, Return to an Order of the House of
the Seventh day of February, 1910, for a Return shewing: 1. A copy of the
advertisement calling for tenders for the printing, publishing and supply of
" Ontario Readers " ; 2. Copies of all tenders received ; 3. Copies of corre-
spondence between the Government of Ontario or any official thereof and any
tenderer or tenderers; 4. A copy of the contract entered into on behalf of the
Government for the printing, publishing and supplying of " Ontario Readers " ;
5. A detailed statement of the cost to the Government of supplying to the pub-
lisher electro-plates for each reader. (Sessional Papers No. 65.)
The House then adjourned at 5.55 P.M.
142 IST MARCH. 1910
Tuesday, 1st March, 1910.
PEAYEKS. 3 O'Clock, P.M.
The following Petition was brought up and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. Gamey, the Petition of the Township Council of Sandfield.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 197), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Securities
Act." Mr. Downey.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 198), intituled "An Act to amend the Kegistry Act." Mr.
Craig.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 199), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act." Mr.
Eraser.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the second time: —
Bill (No. 183), To amend the Act respecting Statute Labour.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 185), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 186), The Ontario Medical Amendment Act, 1910.
Referred to a Select Committee to be composed as follows: — Messieurs
Pyne, Smellie, Ferguson (Grenville), McGarry, Preston (Durham), Bowman,
Tudhope, Mackay (Oxford), Shaw, Godfrey and Preston (Lanark.)
Bill (No. 189), To amend the Ontario Railway and Municipal Board Act.
Referred to the Railway Committee.
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Bill (No. 176), To amend the Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Rail-
way Act.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 171), Respecting the Registration of Instruments relating to
Lands.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 1ST), To amend
the Charity Aid Act having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
On motion of Mr. Reaume, seconded by Mr. Matheson.
Resolved, That this House do forthwith resolve itself into a* Committee
of the Whole, to consider a certain proposed Resolution respecting the hon-
orarium of the Chairman of the Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Railway
Commission and the operation and extension of -the Railway line.
Sir James Whitney acquainted the House that His Honour the Lieutenant-
Governor, having been informed of the subject matter of the proposed Resolu-
tion recommends it to the consideration of the House.
The House then resolved itself into the Committee.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That in lieu of the allowance of $3,500 per annum provided for
the Chairman of the Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Railway Commission
by section 3 of The Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Railway Act the Chair-
man shall receive an honorarium at the rate of $5,000 per annum.
That section 4 of the Act, as amended by section 2 of the Act passed in
the 9th year of His Majesty's Reign, chaptered 18, is further amended by
adding thereto the following section :
(3) The Commission, subject to the approval and direction of the Lieu-
tenant-Governor in Council may construct and operate an extension of said line
of railway from a point on the main line thereof between mileage 205 near
Matheson Station and mileage 228 in the Township of Calvert in a westerly
and southwesterly direction to a point on or near the Mattagami River in the
vicinity of the Township of Mount joy in the District of Sudbury, a distance
of about forty miles ; and subject as aforesaid, shall have and may exercise the
like powers with respect to the extension authorized by this subsection as it
has and may exercise with respect to the railway authorized by subsection 1.
144 IST MARCH. 1910
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported,
That the Committee had come to a certain Kesolution.
Ordered, That the Report be now received.
Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported the Resolution as follows: —
Resolved, That in lieu of the allowance of $3,500 per cwnum provided for
the Chairman of the Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Railway Commission
by section 3 of The Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Railway Act the Chair-
man shall receive an honorarium at the rate of $5,000 per annum.
That section 4 of the Act as amended by section 2 of the Act passed in
the 9th year of His Majesty's reign, chaptered 18, is further amended by adding
thereto the following subsection: —
(3) The Commission, subject to the approval and direction of the Lieu-
tenant-Governor in Council, may construct and operate an extension of said line
of railway from a point on the main line thereof between mileage 205 near
Matheson Station and mileage 228 in the Township of Calvert in a westerly
and southwesterly direction to a point on or near the Mattagami River in the
vicinity of the Township of Mount joy in the District of Sudbury a distance of
about forty miles; and subject as aforesaid, shall have and may exercise the
like powers with respect to the extension authorized by this subsection as it
has and may exercise with respect to the railway authorized by subsection 1.
The Resolution having been read the second time, was agreed to, and.
referred to the Committee of the Whole .House on Bill (No. 176), To amend
the Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Railway Act.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 130), Respecting
the Surrogate Courts having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson
(Grenville) reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
. VII. 1ST AND 2ND MARCH. 145
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 142),
Respecting the Registration of Partnerships and, after some time spent therein,
Air. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported,
That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amend-
ment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House then adjourned at 4.30 P.M.
Wednesday, 2nd March, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 200), intituled "An Act to further amend the Pharmacy Act."
Mr. Torrance.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time lo-morrow.
Bill (No. 201), intituled "An Act to amend the Ontario Railway Act,
1906." Mr. Brower.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 202), intituled "An Act to amend the Motor Vehicles Act."
Mr. Stock.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 203), intituled "An Act respecting Industrial Schools." Mr.
Hanna.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 204), intitul.J 'An Act to amend the Public Schools Act."
Mr. Innes.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 205), intituled "An Act to amend the Truancy Act." Mr.
Innes.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
146 SND MARCH. 1910
The House resolved itself into a Committee, severally to consider the
following Bills " —
Bill (No. 37), To incorporate the Toronto, Haliburton and Pembroke Rail-
way Company.
Bill (No. 30), Respecting the Dunnville, Wellandport and Beamsville
Electric Railway.
Bill (No. 35), Respecting the North Midland Railway Company.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported,
That the Committee had directed him to report the several Bills without any
Amendments.
Ordered, That the Bills reported, be severally read the third time To-
morrow.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 184), To
Prevent Procreation of Confirmed Criminals, .Idiots, Imbeciles and Rapists
having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 62), To prevent
'the spread of Pulmonary and other forms of Tuberculosis having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
Mr. Clark (Bruce), reported the following further Resolutions from the
Committee of Supply.
207. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three thousand dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Civil Government for the year ending 31st
October, 1910.
208. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of Legislation for the year ending 31st October,
1910.
209. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four hundred dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of Administration of Justice for the year ending
31st October, 1910.
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210. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Nine hundred and eighty-six dollars
and seventy cents be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Local Masters
of Titles for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
211. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seven hundred and ninety-one dollars
and sixty-seven cents be granted to* His Majesty to defray the expenses of Com-
mutation of Fees for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
212. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand nine hundred and fifty
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Miscellaneous for the year
ending 31st October, 1910.
213. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty dollars be granted to His
Majesty to defray the expenses of District of Algoma for the year ending 31st
October, 1910.
214. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of District of Kenora for the year ending 31st
October, 1910.
215. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twelve thousand one hundred dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Public and Separate School
Education for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
216. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty
to defray the expenses of Ottawa Normal and Model Schools for the year ending
31st October, 1910.
217. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty
to defray the expenses of the London Normal School for the year ending 31st
October, 1910.
218. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixty dollars be granted to His Majesty
to defray the expenses of the Hamilton Normal School for the year ending 31st
October, 1910.
219. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred dollars be granted to His
Majesty to defray the expenses of the Departmental Library and Museum for the year
ending 31st October, 1910.
220. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eight hundred dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of Public Libraries, Historical and other
Societies for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
221. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of Institution for the Deaf and Dumb, Belleville,
for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
148 2ND MARCH. 1910
222. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five hundred and fifty dollais be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Institution for the Blind,
Brantford, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
223. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and fifty dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Public Institutions Maintenance
for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
224. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seven thousand dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of Agricultural and Horticultural Societies for
the year ending 31st October, 1910.
225. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three thousand two hundred and
twenty- five dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Live Stock
Branch for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
226. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of Ontario Veterinary College for the year ending
31st October, 1910.
227. Resolved, That sum not exceeding One thousand seven hundred and fifty
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Miscellaneous for the
year ending 31st October, 1910.
228. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eight hundred dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of Ontario Agricultural College for the year
ending 31st October, 1910.
229. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eleven thousand two hundred dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Colonisation and Immigration
for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
230. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five thousand dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of Hospitals and Charities for the year ending
31st October, 1910.
231. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eight thousand four hundred dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Maintenance and Eepairs of
Government Buildings for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
232. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and twenty-five thousand
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Government House for
year ending 31st October, 1910.
233. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four hundred and forty-five dollars
and seventy-one cents be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Coloniza-
tion and Immigration for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
Edw. VII. 2ND MARCH. 149
234:. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of Hospital for Insane, Mimico, for the year
ending 31st October, 1910.
235. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four hundred dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of Hospital for Insane, Penetanguishene, for
the year ending 31st October, 1910.
236. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twelve thousand dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Hospital for Insane, Hamilton, for the
year ending 31st October, 1910.
237. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-five thousand dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Hospital for Insane, London, for
the year ending 31st October, 1910.
238. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty thousand dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of Osgoode Hall for the year ending 31st
October, 1910.
239. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five hundred dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Children's Shelter for the year ending
31st October, 1910.
240. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifteen thousand nine hundred and
fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Ontario Agri-
cultural College for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
241. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three 'thousand dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Eastern Dairy School for the year ending
31st October, 1910.
242. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seven thousand eight hundred dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Hygienic Building, London, for
the year ending 31st October, 1910.
243. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Ninety dollars be granted to His
Majesty to defray the expenses of the London Normal School for the year ending
31st October, 1910.
244. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six hundred and twenty-five dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Toronto Normal and Model
Schools for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
245. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred and si^cty dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Ottawa Normal and Model Schools
for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
150 2ND MARCH. 1910
246. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six hundred and twenty-five dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Institution for Deaf and Dumb,
Belleville, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
247. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eight hundred and eleven dollars and
thirty-six cents be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Thunder Bay
District for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
248. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four hundred and fifty dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Sudbury District for the year end-
ing 31st October, 1910.
249. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand five hundred dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Nipissing District for the year
ending 31st October, 1910.
250. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Ninety-one dollars and seventy-one
cents be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Muskoka District for thr
year ending 31st October, 1910.
251. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred dollars be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of Manitoulin District for the year ending 31st
October, 1910.
252. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirty-seven thousand nine hundred
and forty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Public Works
for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
253. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and twenty-one thou-
sand nine hundred and seven dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the
expenses of Colonization Eoads, North Division, for the year ending 31st October,
1910.
254. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-eight thousand and fifty dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Colonization Roads, West
Division, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
255. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixty-nine thousand one hundred and
for^r-six dollars and fifty cents be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
Colonization Roads, East Division, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
256. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty-seven thousand nine hundred
and eighty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Colonization
Roads, Temiskaming District, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
257. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and eighty-seven thou-
sand two hundred and seventy-three dollars and forty-nine cents be granted to His
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Majesty to defray the expenses of Colonization Roads, General, for the year ending
31st October, 1910.
258. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three thousand three hundred and
fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Charges on Crown
Lands for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
259. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four thousand nine hundred and
seventy- five dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Miscellaneous
for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
The several Resolutions, having been read the second time, were concurred
in.
On motion of Mr. Pyne, seconded by Mr. Matheson,
Ordered, That Bill (No. 64), To amend the High Schools Act, discharged
from the Order Paper on the 24th day of February last, be restored thereto
'and that the same be read the second time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the second time and referred to a Committee of
the Whole House To-morrow.
The House then adjourned at 5.55 P.M.
Thursday, 3rd March, 1910
PRAYERS. 3 O'Clock, P.M.
Mr. Lucas from the Standing Committee on Private Bills presented their
Fifth Report, which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bills and report
the same without amendment: —
Bill (No. 6), Respecting the Town of Barrie. .
152 SRD MARCH. 1910
Bill (No. 58), Respecting the Young Men's Christian Association, Wood-
stock.
Bill (No. 5), To confirm an Agreement between the Township of Tay
,and the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada.
Bill (No. 32), Respecting the Township of Tay.
The Committee have also carefully considered the following Bills and
report the same with certain amendments: —
Bill (No. 55), Respecting the levying and collecting of Tolls on the
Mississippi River.
Bill (No. 26), Authorizing Lester McDonell Coulter to practice Medicine
in Ontario.
Bill (No. 22), Respecting the City of Peterborough.
Bill (No. 27), To confirm By-law No. 663 of the Town of Barrie.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing,
be remitted on Bill (No. 9), To incorporate the City of Berlin, the same having
been withdrawn by the promoters thereof.
Ordered, That the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on Bill
(No. 9), Town of Berlin.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 206), intituled " An Act respecting the Executive Council."
Sir James Whitney.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 207), intituled "An Act to amend the Local Municipal Tele-
phone Act, 1908." Mr. Eilber.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 208), intituled " An Act to amend the Act respecting the Law
Society of Upper Canada." Mr. Brewster.
i
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Edw. VII. 3RD MARCH. 153
The .following Bills were severally read the third time and passed : —
Bill (No. 108), Kespecting the Lieutenant-Governor and His Deputies.
Bill (No. 109), Respecting Appeals to His Majesty in His Privy Council.
Bill (No. 110), Respecting the Supreme Court of Canada and the Ex-
chequer Court of Canada.
Bill (No. 114), To authorize Police Constables to take Bail.
Bill (No. 117), Respecting the Legal Meaning of Expressions relative to
Time.
Bill (No. 120), To provide for the payment of witnesses of the Crown.
Bill (No. 121), Respecting Powers of Attorney.
Bill (No. 123), Respecting the Rights of Aliens, in relation to Real
Property.
Bill (No. 131), Respecting Vendors and Purchasers and to Simplify
Titles.
Bill (No. 136), To restrain the Accumulation of the Profits or Produce,
of Real, or Personal Estate.
Bill (No. Ill), Respecting the Judges of the Supreme Court of Judicature
for Ontario.
Bill (No. 125), To provide for the better Government of that part of
Ontario, situated in the vicinity of the Falls of Niagara.
Bill (No. 126), Respecting Petty Trespasses.
Bill (No. 148), Respecting Commissioners of Police appointed by the
Government of Canada.
Bill (No. 102), To establish Forest Reserves.
Bill (No. 112), Respecting the Bureau of Labour.
Bill (No. 101), Respecting Riots near Public Works.
Bill (No. 157), Respecting the Clergy Reserves and the Upper Canada
Grammar School Lands.
154 SRD MARCH. 1910
Bill (No. 124), Respecting the Right of Property in Swarms of Bees.
Bill (No. 31), Respecting the City of London.
Bill (No. 12), Respecting the Trustees of the Toronto General Burying
G rounds.
Bill (No. 160), To amend the Judicature Act.
Bill (No. 161), To amend the Act respecting the Property of Religious
Institutions.
Bill (No. 23), Respecting the Estate of Charles Northcote.
Bill (No. 24), Respecting the Town of Niagara.
Bill (No. 25), Respecting the Town of Port Hope.
Bill (No. 2), To confirm By-law No. 502 of the Town of Campbellford.
Bill (No. 40), Respecting the St. Thomas Street Railway.
Bill (No. 37), To incorporate the Toronto, Haliburton and Pembroke
Railway Company.
Bill (No. 30), Respecting the Dunnville, Wellandport and Beamsville
Electric Railway.
Bill (No. 35), Respecting the North Midland Railway Company.
The following Bill was read the third time : —
Bill (No. 122), Adopting the Law of England in Certain Matters.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass and be intituled " An Act respecting the
Application of the Law of England in Certain Matters."
The following Bill was read the third time: —
Bill (No. 19), To confirm By-law No. 2106 of the City of St. Catharines
and the Agreement thereunto annexed.
Edw. VII. 3RD MARCH. 155
Resolved, That the Bill do pass and be intituled " An Act to confirm By-
law No. 2106 of the City of St. Catharines."
The following Bills were severally read the second time: —
Bill (No. 191), Kespecting Town Sites.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 192), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 195), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 196), To amend the Judicature Act.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 179), The Municipal Drainage Act.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 178), To amend
the Workmen's Compensation Act, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order he discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 194), To autho-
rize and regulate the use of Traction Engines on Highways, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
Mr. Studholme asked the following Question:
(1) HSow many domestic servants 'did J. W. Rigby send to the Province
during the year 1909. (2) Names of the same. (3) Where from. (4)
Present address as far as they can be obtained.
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SRD MARCH.
1910
To which the Minister of Agriculture replied in the words following:
(1) Sixty.
DOMESTIC SERVANTS SENT TO THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO DURING 1909
BY J. W. KlOBY.
Name.
Ramsey, Jane.
From
Belfast.
Calling.
Employer.
Housekeeper, General Hospital,
General Maid. Niagara Falls, Ont.
McCann, Minnie.
Miller, Lizzie.
McDonald, Catherine, Belfast, General.
Clinnan, Lottie. Belfast.
Belfast. General. Mrs. Lambe,
Scarborough.
Belfast. Dairy Maid. Mrs. McKenzie,
Kirkfield.
Mrs. Williams,
Eglinton.
Pollock, Lizzie. Ralaminny. Housemaid. Mrs.Mann,
Scarborough Cliff.
Parlourmaid. Mrs. F. Grassett,
208 Simcoe St.
Toronto.
Charlotte, Lucy.
Carolan, Minnie.
Kenny, Annie. •
Gaston, Maggie.
Davidson, Assies.
Bell, Emma.
ReiH. Bella.
Belfast. Nurse. Went to brother.
Belfast. General. Mrs. Percival Browne,
107 Woodlawn Ave.,
Toronto.
Belfast. General. Mrs. Gibson,
Government House.
Belfast. Good Cook. Mrs. Scott,
4 Dale Ave.,
Toronto.
Belfast. Housemaid. Ont. Ladies' College,
Whitby.
Armagh. Housemaid. Mrs. Grasset,
208 Simcoe St.
Toronto.
Antrim. House- Mrs. MacKenzie,
Parlourmaid. Kincardine.
Magree, Lizzie.
Smythe, Jennie.
Ballymacard. Farmer's
daughter.
Mr. T. Weir,
Brown's Corner.
House table. Mrs. W. Ince,
88 Prince Arthur Ave.,
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157
Name. From Calling.
McClosky, E. Belfast. Cook, general.
Crawley, Minnie. Belfast. Housemaid.
Marshall, Agnes. Belfast. Housework.
McK'ea.?. Bella.
Craig. Sarah,
Antrim.
Larne,
Ireland.
Under nurse.
Cook-
Housemaid.
Waugh, Frances. Belfast. General
Boyd, Susan.
Belfast. Housemaid.
Clarke, Nellie. Belfast.
Archbold, Agnes. Belfast.
General.
General.
McKenniy, Char. Belfast. Housework.
Mills, Lizzie. Belfast. General
Lattimer, Annie. Dromore. Housework.
McCullough, Annie. Belfast. General.
Marshall, Annie. Belfast. Housework.
Harding, Mrs. Belfast. Cook.
Sciley, Lizzie. Co. Derry. Housework.
Employer.
Mrs. Hugh Wilson,
Niagara Falls, Ont.
Mrs. Wm. Brown,
84 Walker Ave.,
Toronto.
Miss MacDonald,
Don Crest,
Eglinton.
Mrs. Strathy,
102 Bedford Rd.,
Toronto.
Mrs. Osier,
Craigleigh,
Toronto.
Mrs. Macklem,
40 Glen Road,
Toronto.
Mrs. Hayes,
Eglinton.
Cottage Hospital,
• 84 Wellesley St.,
Toronto.
Rev. Woodworth,
Yorkville Ave.,
Toronto.
Mrs. Rogers,
Deer Park.
Mrs. Vandervoort,
46 Tyndal Ave.,
Toronto.
Mrs. Rae,
583 Spadina Ave.,
Toronto.
Mrs. Denison,
Heydon Villa,
Toronto.
Mrs. Strathy,
102 Bedford Rd,
Toronto.
Mrs. Gillespie,
88 Charles St.
Hamill, Martha. Belfast. Cook, general. Mr. Frank Weir.
158
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1910
Name.
From
Calling.
Employer.
Boyd, Maggie.
Belfast.
Housework.
Miss Durand,
Queenston, Ont.
Rogers, Annie.
Belfast.
General.
Mrs. Blaikie,
123 Empress Crescent.
Sloan, Sydney.
Belfast.
Sewing maid.
Mrs. Warren Baldwin,
91 Howland Ave.
Duncan, Agnes.
Belfast.
Housemaid,
nurse.
Mrs. Wrong,
467 Jarvis St.
Burns, Eliz.
Belfast.
Housemaid.
Mrs. Bryce,
Heavy, Molly.
Wainwright,
House-
Eglingtcn.
Belfast. parlourmaid
Weir, Sarah.
Lannon, Bella.
Cowan, Annie.
Walsh, Mrs. Mary.
Walsh, Sarah.
(Daughter 11).
Montgomery, B.
Shackles, Caroline.
Coyne, Lilly.
Murray, Minnie.
Thompson, Mary.
Costley, Nellie.
Galvary, Mary.
McCabe, Alary Jane.
Morrow, Annie.
Thompson, Sarah.
Belfast.
Kitchen maid.
Belfast.
General.
Belfast.
Housemaid.
Armagh.
General.
Armagh.
Belfast.
Belfast.
General.
Newcastle,
Co. Down.
Ballagher.
General.
General.
Belfast.
General.
Belfast.
General.
Donegal.
General.
Conthill,
Kerry.
Co. Caven.
General.
General.
Belfast
General.
Mrs. C. Jones,
25 Queens Park.
,
Mrs. W. McKenzie,
Benvenuto.
Miss Col em an,
476 Huron St.
Mrs. Bond,
88 Charles St.
Mrs. J. K. Kerr,
Rathnelly.
Mrs. J. K. Kerr,
Rathnellv.
Mrs. Godfrey,
95 Close Ave.
Mrs. Greig,
20 Crescent Park.
Mrs. O'Meara,
Wyckliffe Col.
Mrs. Lambe,
Fallingbrook.
Mrs. J. Scott,
4 Dale Ave.
Mrs. O'Reilly,
207 Balmoral Ave.
Mrs. McDougall,
20 B Balmoral.
Mrs. H. E. Bond,
88 Charles St.
Mrs. Matthews,
90 Elm Ave.
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3RD MARCH.
159
Name.
From
Calling.
Employer.
Baird, Emily.
Belfast.
General.
Lady Clarke,
303 Wellington St.
Verran, Edith.
Belfast.
General.
Mrs. John Cartwright,
63 Avenue.
Patterson Nellie.
Belfast.
General.
Mrs. Taylor,
119 Balmoral Ed.
Tinsley, Clara.
Belfast.
General.
Miss Mowat,
16 Spadina Rd.
Casey, Kathleen.
Belfast.
General.
Mrs. G. Cassels,
265 Poplar Plain.
Brady, Mary.
Bangor,
Co. Down. General.
Thompson, Mary. Newtonards. General.
Stratford Hospital,
Brantford.
On motion of Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. McPherson,
Ordered,. That there be laid before this House a Return shewing what
steps, if any, the Canadian Northern Ontario Railway Company has taken
towards the building of a section of the Railway into the clay belt of Northern
Ontario in aid of which this House voted to the Company at its last Session a
subsidy of four thousand acres of land for every mile of the Railway which
may be constructed by the Company on certain conditions among others that
operations be commenced within one year from the date of the passing of the
Act, April 13th, 1909.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 168),
To amend the Landlord and Tenants Act, and after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported,
That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amend-
ments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 140),
Respecting the County Courts and District Courts, and after some time spent
160 3RD AND 4TH MARCH. 1910
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville)
reported, That the Committee had made some progress, and directed him to
ask for leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
The House then adjourned at 6.05 P.M.
Friday, 4th March, 1910.
PBAYEBS. 3 O'Clock, P.M.
The following Petition was brought up and laid upon the Table: —
By Mr. Doyle, the Petition of the Township Council of West Williams.
Mr. Hendrie, from the Standing Committee on Railways, presented their
Third Report, which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee has carefully considered the following Bills and has
prepared certain amendments thereto respectively: —
Bill (No. 51), Respecting the Morrisburg Electric Railway Company.
Bill (No. 50), Respecting the Lac Seul, Rat Portage and Keewatin Rail-
way Company.
Bill (No. 49), Respecting the Iron Range Railway Company.
Bill (No. 163), To incorporate the Hurontario Railway Company.
Bill (No." 170), Respecting the Toronto Suburban Railway Company.
Edw. VII. 4TH MARCH. 161
The Committee has also amended the Preambles to the said Bills so as
to make the same conform with the facts, as they appear to the Committee.
The Committee recommend that Rule No. 51 of your Honourable House
be further suspended in this, that the time for receiving Eeports of Commit-
tees relative to Private Bills be further extended until and inclusive of Friday
the llth dav of March instant.
Ordered, That the time for receiving Reports of Committees on Private
Bills be further extended until and inclusive of Friday the eleventh day of
March, instant.
Mr. Clark (Bruce), from the Standing Committee on Printing, presented
their First Report, which was read as follows.
The Committee recommend that the following Documents be printed: —
Public Accounts of the Province of Ontario for the ten months ended
31st October, 1909. (Sessional Papers No. 1.)
Supplementary Estimates for 1910. (Sessional Papers JS o. 2.)
Report of the Inspector of Division Courts, for the year 1909. (Ses-
.sional Papers No. 5.)
Report of the Inspector of Insurance and Registrar of Friendly Societies,
for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers No. 10.)
Report of Registrar of Loan Corporations, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers No. 11.)
Report of the Minister of Public Works, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers No. 12.)
Report of the Game and Fisheries Department, for the year 1909. (Ses-
sional Papers No. 13.)
Report on Highway Improvement, for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers
No. 14.)
162 4TH MARCH. 1910
Report of the Minister of Education, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers No. 16.)
Report of the University of Toronto, for the year ended 30th June, 1909.
ional Papers No. 17.)
Report of the Registrar General, for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers
No. 19.)
Report of the Provincial Board of Health, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers No. 20.)
Report of the Live Stock Associations, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers No. 39.)
Report of the Farmers' Institutes, for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers
No. 40.)
Report of the Women's Institutes, for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers
No. 41.)
Report of the Poultry Institute, for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers
No. 42.)
Report of the Agricultural Societies and of the convention of the Ontario
Association of Fairs and Exhibitions, for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers
No. 43.)
Report of the Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Railway Commission,
for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers No. 47.)
Report of the Ontario Railway and Municipal Board, for the year 1909.
(Sessional Papers No. 49.)
Return from the Record of the Elections in East Victoria and North
Middlesex. (Sessional Papers No. 50.)
Report on the State of the Library. (Sessional Papers No. 52.)
Agreement and Contract with William Briggs in connection with the
Printing and Binding for the Legislative Assembly. (Sessional Papers No.
53.)
Agreement and Contract with E. H. Harcourt Company, Limited, in
connection with the Binding, etc., for the Legislative Assembly. (Sessional
Papers No. 54.)
Edw. VII. 4TH MARCH. 163
Keport of the Milk Commission. (Sessional Papers No. 55.)
Statements of the Auditor made pursuant to the provisions of the Audit
Act. (Sessional Papers No. 57.)
Pamphlet re The Province of Ontario, its Climate, Resources, etc., etc.
(Sessional Papers No. 60.) For distribution only.
Rules and Regulations re Succession Duty Act. (Sessional Papers No.
63.) For distribution only.
The Committee recommend the purchase of 120 copies of " The Canadian
Annual Review " for distribution to the members of the Legislative Assembly.
The Committee recommend that the following Documents be not printed.
Copies of Regulations and Orders in Council re Education. (Sessional
Papers No. 56.)
Return re Insurance in foreign unregistered Corporations. (Sessional
Papers No. 58.)
Copies of Orders in Council re Surrogate Courts Act and Land Titles
Act. (Sessional Papers No. 59.)
Copy of an Order in Council authorizing payment of surplus surrogate
fees to Junior Judge of the County Court of the County of Simcoe. (Sessional
Papers No. 61.)
Return re Licenses granted to Fishermen in 1908 and 1909. (Sessional
Papers No. 62.)
Statement on the Distribution of the Revised and Sessional Statutes.
(Sessional Papers No. 64.)
Return re Advertisement, Tenders, etc., for " Ontario Readers." (Ses-
sional Papers No. 65.)
Resolved, That this House doth concur in the First Report of the Standing
Committee on Printing.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (Xo. 309), intituled, "An Act to amend the Act for the Improve-
ment of Public Highways." Mr. Elliott.
164 4TH MARCH. 1910
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 210), intituled "An Act to amend the Ontario Railway Act,
1906." Sir James Whitney.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 211), intituled "An Act to amend the Ontario Railway and
Municipal Board Act, 1906." Sir James Whitney.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
On motion of Mr. Lackner, seconded by Mr. Pattinson,
Ordered, That Bill (No. 18), Respecting the Peoples' Railway Company,
reported against on the Seventeenth day of February last, be recommitted to
the Standing Committee on Railways for further consideration and report.
On motion of Mr. Shaw, seconded by Mr. McPherson,
Ordered, That the reference to the Standing Committee on Private Bills,
of Bill (No. 59), Respecting the City of Toronto, on Wednesday the Twenty-
third day of February last, be discharged and that instead thereof the Bill be
referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills for their consideration and
report upon a certain section in the Bill relating to the ownership of Balmy
Beach.
The following Bills were severally read the third time and passed : —
Bill (No. 103), Respecting the Territorial Division of Ontario for Muni-
cipal and Judicial Purposes.
Bill (No. 132), Respecting Estreats.
Bill (No. 138), Respecting the Assurance of Estates Tail.
Bill (No. 141), Respecting Assignments and Preferences by Insolvent
Persons.
Bill (No. 149), To Establish a Provincial Park at Rondeau.
Bill (No. 105), Respecting Agricultural Societies.
Edw. VII . 4TH MARCH. 165
Bill (No. 106), Kespecting Horticultural Societies.
Bill (No. 156), Kespecting Councils of Conciliation and of Arbitration
for settling Industrial Disputes.
Bill (No. 144), Eespecting Agricultural Associations.
Bill (No. 153), To secure payment of Wages for Labour performed in
the Construction of Works.
Bill (No. 154), Eespecting Wages.
Bill (No. 159), Eespecting the Department of Agriculture.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 155), Eespecting
Master and Servant having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Gren-
ville) reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
On motion of Mr. Elliott, seconded by Mr. Mackay (Oxford.)
Ordered, That there be laid before this House a Eeturn of a copy of the
Reports relating to the cause of the fire in the Parliament Buildings.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 64),
To amend the High Schools Act and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 176),
To amend the Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Eailway Act and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson
166 4TH MARCH. 1910
(Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill
with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The following Bills were severally read the second time: —
Bill (No. 58), Eespecting the Young Men's Christian Association of
Woodstock, Ontario.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 55), Respecting Levying and Collecting Tolls on the Mississippi
River.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 26), To authorize Lester McDonnell Coulter to Practice Medi-
cine in the Province of Ontario.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 22), Respecting the City of Peterborough.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 197), To amend the Municipal Securities Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (ISTo. 199), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (ISTo. 82), To amend
the Ontario Game and Fisheries Act, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
Mr. MacKay (Grey) asked the following Question:
(1) When was the road from Sudbury to Sault Ste Marie commenced.
Edw. VI L 4TH AND 7TH MARCH. 167
(2) How many miles of the road have been completed each year since. (3)
What has been the average cost per mile to date. (4) What sum has been
spent each year on this road. (5) Have all contracts been let by tender. (6)
If any contracts have been let without tender, the names of the contractors, the
amount paid to each.
To which the Minister of Public Works, replied in the words and figures
following : —
(1) In the year 1907. (2) In 1908 82 miles cut out, cleared and
stumped, 24 miles graded, with concrete culvert work ; in 1909 22 miles graded,
with some 60 wooden culverts, concrete tile work and macadam road work.
(3) $956.81 per mile. (4) 1907, $3,687.38; 1908, $40,961.49; 1909, $33,-
809.62. (5) All contracts have been let by tender. (6) "No contracts have
been let without tender.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House, by command of His Honour the
Lieutenant-Governor : —
Report of the Commissioners for the Queen Victoria Niagara Falls Park
for the yoar 1909. (Sessional Papers No. 9.)
Also — Report of the Secretary and Registrar of the Province for the
year 1909. (Sessional Papers No. 18.)
The House then adjourned at 4.15 P.M.
Monday, 7th March, 1910.
3 O'CLOCK P.M.
His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor proceeded to the Chamber of the
Legislative Assembly and took his seat upon the Throne.
The Clerk Assistant then read the Titles of the Acts that had been passed,
severally, as follows : —
No. of Bill.
1. An Act to confirm By-law No. 9 of 1909 of the Town of Thornbury.
2. An Act to confirm By-law No. 502 of the Town of Campbellford.
4. An Act to incorporate the Nickel Range Railway Company.
168 ?TH MARCH. 1910
8. An Act respecting the Oshawa Young Men's Christian Association.
10. An Act respecting the Western Central Railway Company.
11. An Act to incorporate the Wahnapitae Railway Company.
12. An Act respecting the Trustees of the Toronto General Burying Ground.
13. An Act to amend the Act respecting the Bruce Mines and Algoma Rail-
way Company.
14. An Act to amend the Act to incorporate the Ottawa Young Men's Christ-
ian Association.
15. An Act respecting the St. Thomas Cemetery Company.
17. An Act respecting the Estate of Blanche Eleanor Leslie.
19. An Act to confirm By-law No. 2106 of the City of St. Catharines.
23. An Act respecting the Estate of Charles Northcote.
24. An Act respecting the Town of Niagara.
25. An Act respecting the Town of Port Hope.
30. An Act respecting the Dunnville, Wellandport and Beamsville Electric
Railway Company.
33. An Act to confirm certain By-laws 'and an Agreement between the Town-
ships of Southwold and Yarmouth.
-
35. An Act respecting The North Midland Railway Company.
. An Act to incorporate the Toronto, Haliburton and Pembroke Railway
Company.
40. An Act respecting the St. Thomas Street Railway.
101. An Act respecting Riots near Public Works.
102. An Act to establish Forest Reserves.
103. An Act respecting the Territorial Division of Ontario for Municipal and
Judicial Purposes.
Edw. VII. 7TH MARCH. 169
105. An Act respecting Agricultural Societies.
106. An Act respecting Horticultural Societies.
108. An Act respecting the Lieutenant-Governor and his Deputies.
109. An Act respecting Appeals to His Majesty in His Privy Council.
110. An Act respecting the Supreme Court of Canada and the Exchequer
Court of Canada.
111. An Act respecting the Judges of the Supreme Court of Judicature for
Ontario.
112. An Act respecting the Bureau of Labour.
114. An Act to authorize Police Constables to take Bail.
120. An Act to provide for the Payment of Witnesses for the Crown.
121c An Act respecting Powers of Attorney.
122. An Act respecting the Application of the Law of England in Certain
Matters.
123. An Act respecting the Rights of Aliens in relation to Real Property.
124. An Act respecting the Rights of Property in Swarms of Bees.
125. An Act to provide for the better Government of that part of Ontario
situated in the Vicinity of the Falls of Niagara.
126. An Act respecting Petty Trespasses.
131. An Act respecting Vendors and Purchasers and to Simplify Titles.
132. An Act respecting Estreats.
136. An Act to restrain the Accumulation of the Profits or Produce of Real
or Personal Estate.
138. An Act respecting the Assurance of Estates Tail.
141. An Act respecting Assignments and Preferences -by Insolvent Persons.
144. An Act respecting Agricultural Associations.
170 7TH MARCH. 1910
148. An Act respecting Commissioners of Police appointed by the Govern-
ment of Canada.
149. An Act to establish a Provincial Park at Kondeau.
153. An Act to secure Payment of Wages for Labour performed in the Con-
struction of Works.
154. An Act respecting Wages.
156. An Act respecting Councils of Conciliation and of Arbitration for
Settling Industrial Disputes.
157. An Act respecting the Clergy Reserves and the Upper Canada Grammar
School Lands.
159. An Act respecting the Department of Agriculture.
160. An Act to amend the Judicature Act.
161. An Act to amend the Act respecting the Property of Religious Institu-
tions.
To these Acts the Royal Assent was announced by the Clerk of the Legis-
lative Assembly in the words following : —
"In His Majesty's name, His Honour the Lieutenant-Go vernor doth assent
to these Acts."
His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor was then pleased to retire.
PRAYERS. 3.30 O'CLOCK P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Mr. Fraser, the Petition of the Village Council of Fort Erie; also,
the Petition of the Village Council of Chippawa.
Mr. Lucas, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, presented their
Sixth Report, which was read as follows and adopted.
Edw. VII. 7TH MARCH. 171
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bill and report
the same without amendment : —
Bill (No. 21), To confirm an Agreement between the City of Stratford
and the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada.
The Committee have also carefully considered the following Bills and
report the same with certain amendments : —
Bill (No. 41), Expecting the City of Brantford and the John H. Strat-
ford Hospital.
Bill (No. 46), Respecting the City of Windsor.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing,
be remitted on Bill (No. 58), Respecting the Young Men's Christian Associa-
tion, Woodstock, on the ground that the Bill is one relating to an Educational
or Religious Institution.
Ordered, That the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on
Bill (No. 58), Woodstock Y. M. C. A.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 212), intituled "An Act respecting the Devolution and Distri-
bution of Estates." Mr. Lucas.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 213), intituled "An Act to amend the Ontario Game and Fish-
eries Act." Mr. Reaume.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 214), intituled "An Act to amend the Ontario Railway Act,
1906." Mr. Lennox.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 216), intituled "An Act to amend the Ontario Medical Act."
Mr. Jessop.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 21T), intituled " The Municipal Amendment Act, 1910." Mr.
Hanna.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
172 ?TH MARCH. 1910
The following Bill was, nemine contradicente, introduced and read the
first time : —
Bill (No. 215), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act." Mr.
Grigg.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee, severally to consider the
following Bills : —
Bill (No. 3), To confirm By-law "No. 818 of the Town of Napanee.
Bill (No. 58), Respecting the Young Men's Christian Association of
Woodstock, Ontario.
. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hoyle reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the several Bills without any amendments.
Ordered, That the Bills reported, be severally read the third time To-
morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 51), Respecting the Morrisburg Electric Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 50), Respecting the Lac Seul, Rat Portage and Keewatin Rail-
way Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 49), Respecting the Iron Range Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 163), To incorporate the Hurontario Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 170), Respecting the Toronto Suburban Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Edw. VII. 7TH MARCH. 173
Sir James Whitney delivered to Mr. Speaker a Message from the Lieu-
tenant-Governor, signed by himself; and the said Message was read by Mr.
Speaker, and is as follows: —
J. M. GIBSON.
The Lieutenant-Governor transmits Estimates of certain sums required
for the service of the Province for the year ending 31st October, 1911, and
recommends them to the Legislative Assembly.
GOVERNMENT HOUSE,
Toronto, March 7th, 1910.
(Sessional Papers, No. 2.)
Ordered, That the Message of the Lieutenant-Governor, together with the
Estimates accompanying same, be referred to the Committee of Supply.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 171),
Respecting the Registration of Instruments relating to Lands, and after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry re-
ported, That the Committee had made some progress, and directed him to ask
for leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into the Committee
of Supply.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That there be granted to His Majesty, for the service of 1910-
1911, the following sums: —
1. To defray the expenses of Lieutenant-Governor's Office. . $ 4,650 00
2. To defray the expenses of the Prime Minister and Presi-
dent of the Council 7,850 00
3. To defray the expenses of the Attorney-General's Depart-
ment 65,276 00
4. To defray the expenses of the Education Department. . 29,960 00
5. To defray the expenses of Lands, Forests and Mines De-
partment 137,900 00
174 TTH MARCH. 1910
6. To defray the expenses of Public Works Department $06,660 00
7. To defray the expenses of Treasury Department 33,804 00
8. To defray the expenses of the Provincial Auditor's Office 15,280 00
9. To defray the expenses of the Provincial Secretary's Office 173,345 00
10. To defray the expenses of the Department of Agriculture 62,010 00
11. To defray the expenses of Miscellaneous 18,850 00
12. To defray the expenses of Legislation 255,450 00
13. To defray the expenses of Salaries and Expenses of Ad-
ministration of Justice 198,309 66
14. To defray the expenses of Miscellaneous 355,663 00
15. To defray the expenses of Administration of Justice in
Districts 136,769 00
16. To defray the expenses of Public and Separate Schools'
Education 992,100 00
17. To defray the expenses of Normal and Model Schools, To-
ronto 45,290 00
18. To defray the expenses of Normal and Model Schools,
Ottawa 46,605 00
19. To defray the expenses of Normal and Model Schools,
London 25,175 00
20. To defray the expenses of Normal School, Hamilton 21,075 00
21. To defray the expenses of Normal School, Peterborough. . 21,705 00
22. To defray the expenses of Normal School, Stratford 20,955 00
23. To defray the expenses of Normal School, North Bay . . . 24,960 00
24. To defray the expenses of High Schools and Collegiate
Institutes 154,100 00
25. To defray the expenses of Departmental Library and
Museum 18,200 00
Edw. VII. 7TH MARCH. 175
26. To defray the expenses of Public Libraries, Art Schools,
Literary and Scientific Societies $60,900 00
27. To defray the expenses of Technical Education 63,800 00
28. To defray the expenses of Superannuated Public and High
School Teachers 62,650 00
29. To defray the expenses of Provincial University and
Mining Schools 42,200 00
30. To defray the expenses of Maintenance Education De-
partment and Miscellaneous 31,824 00
31. To defray the expenses of Institution for the Deaf and
Dumb, Belleville 59,398 00
32. To defray the expenses of Blind Institute, Brantford 43,250 00
33. To defray the expenses of the Hospital for Insane, Brock-
ville 113,106 00
34. To defray the expenses of the Hospital for Insane, Cobourg 28,000 00
35. To defray the expenses of the Hospital for Insane, Ham-
ilton 1-71,127 00
36. To defray the expenses of the Hospital for Insane, Kings-
ton ; 119,193 00
37. To defray the expenses of the Hospital for Insane, London 164,000 00
38. To defray the expenses of the Hospital for Insane, Mimico 102,550 00
39. To defray the expenses of the Hospital for Idiots, Orillia 88,467 00
40. To defray the expenses of the Hospital for Insane, Pene"
tanguishene 68,765 00
41. To defray the expenses of the Hospital for Insane, Toronto 155,947 00
42. To defray the expenses of the Hospital for Epileptics,
Woodstock 38,736 00
43. To defray the expenses of the Central Prison, Toronto . . . 75,040 00
44. To defray the expenses of the Central Prison Industries . . 63,470 00
176 ?TH MARCH. 1910
45. To defray the expenses of the Mercer Reformatory, To-
ronto $30,.92o 00
46. To defray the expenses of Agricultural and Horticultural
Societies 124,395 00
47. To defray the expenses of Live Stock Branch 32,180 00
48. To defray the expenses of Institutes 36,450 00
49. To defray the expenses of the Bureau of Industries 5,500 00
50. To defray the expenses of the Dairy Branch 57,570 00
51. To defray the expenses of the Fruit Branch 43,420 00
52. To defray the expenses of the Ontario Veterinary College 31,900 00
53. To defray the expenses of Miscellaneous 59,850 00
54. To defray the expenses of the Agricultural College — Salar-
ies and Expenses 135,500 00
55. To defray the expenses of the Macdonald Institute and
Hall 36,040 00
56. To defray the expenses of Forestry 1,500 00
57. To defray the expenses of Animal Husbandry, Farm and
Experimental Feeding Department 19,250 00
58. To defray the expenses of Field Experiments 12,580 00
59. To defray the expenses of Experimental Dairy Department 9,756 00
60. To defray the expenses of the Dairy School 8,165 00
61. To defray the expenses of the Poultry Department .... 5,100 00
62. To defray the expenses of the Horticultural Department 9,650 00
63. To defray the expenses of the Agriculture Department . . 750 00
64. To defray the expenses of the Soil Physics Department . . . 4,000 00
65. To defray the expenses of the Mechanical Department . . 1,050 00
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66. To defray tlie expenses of Colonization and Immigration $73,800 00
67. To defray the expenses of Stationary Engineers 6,050 00
68. To defray the expenses of Hospitals and Charities .... 319,700 00
69. To defray the expenses of Maintenance and Repairs of
Government House 18,000 00
70. To defray the expenses of Maintenance and Repairs Par-
liament and Departmental Buildings 193,100 00
71. To defray the expenses of New Government House .... 100,000 00
72 To defray the expenses of Parliament Buildings (new
wing) 200,000 00
73. To defray the expenses of Osgoode Hall 67,400 00
74. To defray the expenses of Public Institutions 101,600 00
75. To defray the expenses of Public Buildings, Educational 11,500 00
76. To defray the expenses of Public Buildings, Agriculture . $800 00
77. To defray the expenses of Public Buildings, Districts . . 22,250 00
78. To defray the expenses of Public Works 69,700 00
79. To defray the expenses of Colonization Roads 118,000 00
80. To defray the expenses of Crown Lands, Outside Service
and Surveys 456,800 00
81. To defray the expenses of Mines and Mining 83,200 00
82. To defray the expenses of Parks 21,000 00
83. To defray the expenses of Refund Account, Education. . 1,000 00
84. To defray the expenses of Refund Account, Lands, Forests
and Mines 17,000 00
85. To defray the expenses of Refund Account, Miscellaneous 12,000 00
178 7TH AND STH MARCH. 1910
86. To defray the expenses of Refund Account, Succession
Duties $3-3,000 00
87. To defray the expenses of Miscellaneous 547,950 00
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clark (Bruce) reported, That
the Committee had come to several Eesolutions.
Ordered, That the Report be received To-morrow.
The House then adjourned at 5.35 P.M.
Tuesday, 8th March, 1910.
PL-AVERS. 3 O'Clock P.M.
Mr. Speaker informed the House,
That the Clerk had received from the Commissioners of Estate Bills,
their Report in the following case: —
Bill (No. 59), Respecting the City of Toronto.
The Report was then read by the Clerk, at the Table, as follows : —
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario.
The undersigned, two of the Commissioners of Estate Bills, to whom was
referred Bill (No. 59), Respecting the City of Toronto, have the honour to
report :
1. Inasmuch as the preamble of the Bill does not on its face show the
trusts upon which the property to which it relates was held by the Corpora-
tion of the Town of East Toronto at the time of the annexation of that Town
to the City of Toronto, it is well that the material circumstances should be
stated.
2. By the Act, 3 Edw. 7, cap. 50, vesting in the Corporation of the Town
of East Toronto, Balmy Beach Park, provision was made for the management,
regulation and control "of the Park by a Board called the Board of Manage-
ment of the Balmy Beach Park.
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3. The Board was to consist of the Mayor of the Town and six other
persons not members of the Council, to be appointed by the Council on the
nomination of the Mayor. Two of the members of the Board were to be resi"
dents on land in the Township of York covered by Plan 406 ; two were to be
owners of land covered by the Plan, in the Town ; and the two others residents
of the Town.
4. The Board was created a corporation and was given power, amongst
other things, with the consent of the Council, to borrow either by mortgage
on the Park, or upon debentures, any money required for the purposes of
the Trust.
5. The Town of East Toronto having been, under the authority of the
Municipal Act, annexed to the City of Toronto, it follows either that there
is now no body having the powers which by the Act were conferred upon the
Council of that municipality, including the power to appoint members of
the Board, or that power is vested in the council of the Corporation of the
City of Toronto. It is to be observed that there is no power in the Board to
borrow, unless with the consent of the Council, and therefore there are now
no means by which the Park can be maintained and improved, as was con-
templated by the Act.
:
6. While the Trust Deed of the Park from Sir Adam Wilson conveyed
upon trust "for the common use and enjoyment as a promenade or place
f general resort for the owners or occupiers of the lands included on the said
plan" by the Act to which reference has been made these trusts were enlarged,
and the Town of East Toronto held the property "as a park and place of rec-
reation for the use of all owners of property and persons residing on Plan
406 and their visitors, and for the use of all persons residing in the Town
of East Toronto and their visitors."
7. If Section 9 of the proposed Bill becomes law, the effect will be that
the property will become one of the Public Parks of the City and open as well
to the general public as to the persons mentioned in the Act vesting it in the
Corporation of the Town of East Toronto.
8. It is manifest from what has been stated that some provision must
be made for the management of the property, and it is a question of policy for
the Legislature whether what is proposed by the Bill is reasonable, having
regard to the circumstances which have been mentioned.
9. It is to be also observed that without any means for the maintenance
md improvement of the Park it would appear difficult to keep it in such a
ondition as it should be kept in order to meet the purposes for which the
was given by Sir Adam Wilson, and it does not appear to the under-
180 STH MARCH. 1910
signed that to vest the control and management of it in the Corporation of
the City of Toronto as one of its Public Parks, as is proposed, is unreasonable.
10. The undersigned are of the opinion that the provisions of Section
9 of the Bill are proper for carrying its purposes into effect.
11. The admission of others than those entitled to the use of the Park ac-
cording to the trusts upon which it is held would not appear to the undersigned
to be seriously interfered with, by conferring the use of the Park upon the
citizens of Toronto generally, but that, as has already been said, is a matter
rather for the consideration of the Legislature than of the undersigned.
All of which is respectfully submitted.
Dated at Osgoode Hall, the 8th day of March, 1.910.
W. R. MEREDITH, C.J.C.P.
HUGH MACMAHON, J.
Ordered, That Bill (No. 59), Respecting the City of Toronto, be recom-
mitted to the Committee on Private Bills with instructions to consider the
same with reference to the suggestions of the Commissioners of Estate Bills
thereon.
The following Petition was brought up and laid upon the Table : —
By Mr. Torrance, the Petition of the Township Council of Wallace.
The following Petitions were read and received: —
Of the Township Council of Sandfield; also, of the Township Council
of West Williams; also, of the Village Council of Fort Erie; also, of the
Village Council of Chippawa, severally praying for certain amendments to
the Assessment Act, respecting the Taxation of Farm Buildings.
Mr. Hendrie, from the Standing Committee on Railways, presented their
Fourth Report, which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bills and have
prepared certain amendments thereto respectively: —
Bill (No 16), To incorporate the Monarch Railway Company.
Edw. VII. STH MARCH. 181
Bill (No. 169), To incorporate the Niagara Falls, Welland and Dunnville
Electric Railway Company.
The Committee have also considered Bill (No. 18), Respecting the
People's Railway Company, recommitted to the Committee hy Your Honourable
House for further consideration and report, and have prepared certain amend-
ments thereto.
Mr. Lucas, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, presented
their Seventh Report, which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bills and report
the same without amendment :: —
Bill (No. 43), Respecting the Town of Kenora.
Bill (No. 93), To amend the Act respecting the Township of York.
Bill (No. 7), Respecting the Town of Penetanguishene.
The Committee have also carefully" considered the following Bills and
iport the same with certain amendments: —
Bill (No. 56), To ratify By-law 568 of the Town of Durham.
Bill (No. 29), To confirm By-law 2116 of the City of St. Catharines.
Bill (No. 42), To confirm By-law 2126 of the City of St. Catharines and
ie agreement therein contained.
Mr. Hanna, from the Standing Committee on Municipal Law, presented
sir First Report, which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bills and report
same with certain amendments : —
Bill (No. 80), To amend the Act respecting Statute Labour.
Bill (No. 180), Respecting the Manufacture and Sale of Bread.
Mr. Preston (Lanark), from the Select Committee, to which was referred
(No. 186), To amend the Ontario Medical Act, presented their Report
which was read as follows and adopted.
182 STH MARCH. 1910
The Committee have carefully considered the Bill to them referred and
report the same with certain amendments.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 218), intituled "An Act to Prevent the Spread of Insect and
Fungous Diseases injurious to Vegetation." Mr. Duff.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 219), intituled "An Act respecting certain Public School mat-
ters in the City of Toronto." Mr. Lucas.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 220), intituled "An Act with respect to Compensation to Work-
men for Injury suffered in the course of Employment." Mr. Proudfoot.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 221), intituled "An Act to amend the Act for the Prevention
of Accidents by Fire in Hotels and other like Buildings." Mr. Hearst.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 127), Eespecting
Short Forms of Conveyances, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Hoyle reported,
That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 128), Eespecting
Short Forms of Leases, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
Edw. VII. STH MARCH. 183
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Hoyle reported,
That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 129), Kespecting
Short Forms of Mortgages, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Hoyle reported,
That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 134), Eespecting
Mortgages of Keal Estate, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Hoyle reported,
That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the third time and passed : —
Bill (No. 155), Eespecting Master and Servant.
Bill (No. 3), To confirm By-law No. 818 of the Town of Napanee.
Bill (No. 58), Eespecting the Young Men's Christian Association of
Woodstock, Ontario.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 212), Eespecting the Devolution and Distribution of Estates.
Eeferred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 200), To further amend the Pharmacy Act.
Eeferred to the Legal Committee.
184 STH MARCH. 1910
Bill (No. 21), To confirm an Agreement between the City of Stratford
and the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 41), Respecting the City of Brantford and the John H. Strat-
ford Hospital.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 46), Respecting the City of Windsor.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 167), To amend the Assessment Act.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 207), To amend the Local Municipal Telephone Act, 1908.
Rf +'erred to the Municipal Committee.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 193), To amend
the Municipal Act, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 201), To amend
the Ontario Railway Act, 1906, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 204), To amend
the Public Schools Act, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 205), To amend
the Truancy Act, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 182), To amend
the Assessment Act, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
Edw. VII. STH MARCH. 185
The House resolved itself into a Committee, severally to consider the
following Bills : —
Bill (No. 55), Kespecting Levying and Collecting Toilo en the Mississippi
River.
Bill (No. 26), To authorize Lester McDonnell Coulter to Practice Medi-
cine in the Province of Ontario.
Bill (No. 22), Respecting the City of Peterborough.
Bill (No. 51), Respecting the Morrisburg Electric Railway Company.
Bill (No. 50), Respecting the Lac Seul, Rat Portage and Keewatin Rail-
way Company.
Bill (No. 49), Respecting the Iron Range Railway Company.
Bill (No. 163), To incorporate the Hurontario Railway Company.
Bill (No. 170), Respecting the Toronto Suburban Railway Company.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hoyle reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the several Bills without any amendments.
Ordered, That the Bills reported, be severally read the third time To-
morrow.
Mr. Clark (Bruce) reported the following Resolutions from the Committee
mittee of Supply:—
1. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four thousand six hundred and
fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Lieutenant-
Governor's Office for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
2. Resolved,, That a sum not exceeding Seven thousand eight hundred and
fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Office of
the Prime Minister and President of the Council for the year ending 31st
October, 1911.
3. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixty-five thousand two hundred
and seventy-six dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Attorney-General's Department for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
186 STH MARCH. 1910
4. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-nine thousand nine hun-
dred and sixty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Education Department for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
5. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and thirty-seven
thousand nine hundred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses
of the Lands, Forests and Mines Department for the year ending 31st October,
1911.
6. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixty-six thousand six hundred
and sixty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Public
Works Department for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
7. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirty-three thousand eight hun-
dred and four dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Treasury Department for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
8. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifteen thousand two hundred and
eighty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Provincial
Auditor's Office for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
9. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and seventythree
thousand three hundred and forty-five dollars be granted to His Majesty to
defray the expenses of the Provincial Secretary's Department for the year end-
ing 31st October, 1911.
10. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixty-two thousand and ten
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Department
of Agriculture for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
11. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eighteen thousand eight hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Miscel-
laneous for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
12. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred and fifty-five thou-
sand four hundred and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the
expenses of Legislation for the year ending 31st October 1911.
13. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and ninety-eight
thousand three hundred and nine dollars and sixty-six cents be granted to
His Majesty to defray the expenses of Administration of Justice, Salaries and
Expenses, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
14. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three hundred and fifty-five thou-
sand six hundred and sixty-three dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray
the expenses of Miscellaneous Administration of Justice for the year ending
31st October, 1911.
Edw. VII. STH MARCH. 187
15. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and thirty-six thou-
sand seven hundred and sixty-nine dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray
the expenses of Administration of Justice in Districts for the year ending 31st
October, 1911.
16. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Nine hundred and ninety-two
thousand one hundred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses
of Public and Separate School Education for the year ending 31st October,
1911.
17. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Forty-five thousand two hundred
and ninety dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Normal
and Model Schools, Toronto, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
18. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Forty'six thousand six hundred
and five dollars be granted to His Majesty to. defray the expenses of Normal
and Model Schools, Ottawa, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
19. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-five thousand one hund-
red and seventy-five dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses
of Normal and Model Schools, London, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
20. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-one thousand and seventy-
five dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Normal School,
Hamilton, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
21. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-one thousand seven
hundred and five dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
Normal School, Peterborough, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
22. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty thousand nine hundred
and fifty-five dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
Normal School, Stratford, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
23. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-four thousand nine
hundred and sixty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
the Normal School, North Bay, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
24. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and fifty-four thou-
sand one hundred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
High School and Collegiate Institutes for the year ending 31st October,
1911.
25. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eighteen thousand two hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Departmental
Library and Museum for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
188 STH MARCH. 1910
26. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixty thousand nine hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Public Libraries,
Art Schools, Literary and Scientific, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
27. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixtythree thousand eight hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Technical Education
for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
28. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixty-two thousand six hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Super-
annuated Public and High School Teachers for the year ending 31st October,
1911.
29. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Forty-two thousand two hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Provincial Univer-
sity and Mining Schools for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
30. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirty-one thousand eight
hundred and twenty'four dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the ex-
penses of Miscellaneous Maintenance, Education Department for the year
ending 31st October, 1911.
31. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty-nine thousand three
hundred and ninety-eight dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the ex-
penses of the Institution for the Deaf and Dumb, Belleville, for the year ending
31st October, 1911.
32. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Forty-three thousand two hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Blind
Institute, Brantford, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
33. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and thirteen
thousand one hundred and six dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the
expenses of the Hospital for Insane, Brockville, for the year ending 31st
October, 1911.
34. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-eight thousand dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Hospital for Insane,
Cobourg, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
35. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and seventy-one
thousand one hundred and twenty-seven dollars be granted to His Majesty to
defray the expenses of the Hospital for Insane, Hamilton, for the year ending
31st October, 1911.
36. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and nineteen
Edw. VII. STH MARCH. 189
thousand one hundred and ninety-three dollars be granted to His Majesty to
defray the expenses, of the Hospital for the Insane, Kingston, for the year end-
ing 31st October, 1911.
37. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and sixty-four
thousand dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Hospital for Insane, London, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
38. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and two thousand
five hundred and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses
of the Hospital for the Insane, Mimico, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
39. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eighty-eight thousand four
hundred and sixty-seven dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the ex-
penses of the Hospital for Idiots, Orillia, for the year ending 31st October,
1911.
40. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixty-eight thousand seven
hundred and sixty-five dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the ex-
penses of the Hospital for Insane, Penetanguishene, for the year ending 31st
October, 1911.
41. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and fifty -five
thousand nine hundred and fortyseven dollars be granted to His Majesty to
defray the expenses of the Hospital for Insane, Toronto, for the year ending
31st October, 1911.
42. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirty-eight thousand seven
hundred and thirty-six dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses
of the Hospital for Epileptics, Woodstock, for the year ending 31st October,
1911.
43. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seventy-five thousand and forty
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Central Prison,
Toronto, for the year ending 31st October, 1910.
44. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixty-three thousand four
hundred and seventy dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses
of the Central Prison Industries for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
45. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirty thousand nine hundred
and twenty-five dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Mercer Reformatory, Toronto, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
46. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and twenty-four
thousand three hundred and ninety-five dollars be granted to His Majesty to
190 STH MARCH. 1910
defray the expenses of Agricultural and Horticultural Societies for the year
ending 31st October, 1911.
47. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirty-two thousand one hundred
and eighty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Live
Stock Branch for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
48. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirty-six thousand four hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Institutes
for the year ending October 31st, 1911.
49. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five thousand five hundred dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Bureau of Industries
for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
50. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty-seven thousand five hundred
and seventy dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Dairy Branch for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
51. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Forty-three thousand four
hundred and twenty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses
of the Fruit Branch for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
52. Resolved,, That a sum not exceeding Thirty-one thousand nine
hundred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the
Ontario Veterinary College for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
53. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Fifty-nine thousand eight hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Miscellan-
eous, Agriculture, for the year endnig 31st October, 1911.
54. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and thirty-five
thousand five hundred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the ex-
penses of Salaries and Expenses, Agricultural College, for the year ending
31st October, 1911.
55. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirty-six thousand and forty
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Macdonald Institute
and Hall, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
56. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand five hundred dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Forestry for the year end-
iiiir 31st October, 1911.
57. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Nineteen thousand two hundred
and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Animal
Husbandry, Farm and Experimental Feeding Department for the year ending
31st October, 1911.
Edw. VII. STH MARCH. 191
58. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twelve thousand five hundred
and eighty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Field
Experiments for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
59. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Nine thousand seven hundred
and fifty-six dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Ex-
perimental Dairy Department for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
60. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eight thousand one hundred and
sixty-five dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Dairy
School for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
61. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five thousand one hundred dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Poultry Department for the
year ending 31st October, 1911.
"~62. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Xine thousand six hundred and
fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Horticulture
Department for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
63. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seven hundred and fifty dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Apiculture for the year
ending 31st October, 1911.
64. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four thousand dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Soil Physics Department for the year
ending 31st October, 1.911.
65. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand and fifty dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of the Mechanical Depart-
ment for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
66. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seventy-three thousand eight
hundred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Coloniza-
tion and Immigration for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
67. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Six thousand and fifty dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Stationary Engineers foi*
the year ending 31st October, 1911.
68. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Three hundred and nineteen
thousand seven hundred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the ex-
penses of Hospitals and Charities for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
69. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eighteen thousand dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Government House for the
year ending 31st October, 1911.
192 STH MARCH. 1910
70. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and ninety-three
thousand one hundred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the ex-
penses of Parliament and Departmental Buildings for the year ending 31st
October, 1911.
71. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred thousand dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of !N"ew Government House
for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
72. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Two hundred thousand dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Addition to Parliament
Buildings for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
73. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixty-seven thousand four,
hundred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Public
Buildings, Osgoode Hall, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
74. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and one thousand
six hundred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Public
Institutions for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
75. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eleven thousand five hundred
dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Public Buildings
(Educational) for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
76. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eight hundred dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Public Buildings (Agricul-
ture) for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
77. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-two thousand two
hundred and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of
Public Buildings (Districts) for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
78. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Sixty-nine thousand seven hun-
ired dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Public Works
for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
79. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One hundred and eighteen
thousand dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Coloniza-
tion Roads for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
80. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Four hundred and fifty-six
thousand eight hundred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the ex-
penses of Expenditure on account of Outside Service and Surveys for the year
ending 31st October, 1911.
81. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Eighty-three thousand two hun-
Edw. VII. STH MARCH. 193
dred dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Expenditure
on account of Mines and Mining for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
82. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twenty-one thousand dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Expenditure on account of
Parks for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
83. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding One thousand dollars be granted
to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Education, Refund Account, for the
year ending 31st October, 1911.
84. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Seventeen thousand dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Crown Lands, Refund
Account, for the year ending 31st October, 1.911.
85. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Twelve thousand dollars be
granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Miscellaneous, Refund
Account, for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
86. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Thirty-three thousand dollars
be granted to His Majesty to defray the expenses of Succession Duty for the,
year ending 31st October, 1911.
87. Resolved, That a sum not exceeding Five hundred and forty-sevep
thousand nine hundred and fifty dollars be granted to His Majesty to defray
the expenses of Miscellaneous for the year ending 31st October, 1911.
The several Resolutions, having been read the second time, were concurred in.
The House, according to the Order, again resolved itself into the Commit-
tee of Ways and Means.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That there be granted out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund of
this Province, a sum not exceeding Twelve millions two hundred and ninety-
eight thou'sand three hundred and forty-three dollars and thirty cents
($12,298,343.30) to meet the Supply to that extent granted to His Majesty.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hoyle reported, that the Com-
mittee had come to a Resolution.
Ordered, That the Report be received forthwith.
194 STH MARCH. 1910
Mr. Hoyle, from the Committee on Ways and Means, reported a Resolu-
tion which was read as follows : —
Resolved, That there be granted out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund of
this Province, a sum not exceeding Twelve millions two hundred and ninety-
eight thousand three hundred and forty-three dollars and thirty cents
($12,298,343.30), to meet the Supply to that extent granted to His Majesty.
The Resolution, having been read a second time, was agreed to.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House, by command of His Honour the
Lieutenant-Governor : —
Report of the Inspector of Legal Offices, for the year 1.909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 6.)
Also — Report of the Inspector of Registry Offices, for the year 1909.
(Sessional Papers, No. 7.)
Also — Report of the Inspector of Prisons and Public Charities, on the
Hospital for Idiots, for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers, No. 22.)
Also — Report of the Inspector of Prisons and Public Charities, on Hospi-
tals and Charities for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers, No. 24.)
Also — Report on Neglected and Dependent Children, for the year 1909.
(Sessional Papers, No. 26.)
Also — Report of the Inspector of Prisons and Public Charities, on Hospi-
tals for1 the Insane, for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers, No. 21.)
Also — Report of the Archivist for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers,
No. 51.)
Also — Report of Dr. Helen MacMurchy on Infant Mortality. (Ses-
sional Papers, No. 66.)
Also — Return to an Order of the House of the Sixteenth day of February,
1910, for a Return shewing: 1. The number of male teachers granted County
Model School Certificates in the years 3906, 1907, 1908 and 1909, respec-
tively. 2. The number of female teachers granted County Model School
Certificates in the years 1906, 1907, 1908 and 1909, respectively. 3. The
number of male teachers granted Normal School Certificates in the years 1906,
1907, 1908 and 1909, respectively. 4. The number of female teachers grant-
Edw. VII. STH AND 9TH MARCH. 195
ed Normal School Certificates in the years 1906, 1907, 1908 and 1909, res-
pectively. (Sessional Papers, No. 67.)
The House then adjourned at 6 P.M.
Wednesday, 9th March, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'Clock, P.M.
The following Petitions were severally brought up and laid upon the
Table:—
By Sir James Whitney, the Petition of the District Labour Council of
Toronto.
By Mr. McDonald, the Petition of the County Council of the United
Counties of Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry.
Mr. Lucas, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, presented
their Eighth Eeport which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bill and report
the same without amendment: —
Bill (No. 28), To incorporate the Hamilton School of Anatomy.
The Committee have also carefully considered the following Bills and
report the same with amendments: —
Bill (No. 95), Kespecting the City of Guelph.
Bill (No. 44), Respecting Simcoe Railway and Power Company.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing-,
bv remitted on Bill (No. 48), To incorporate the Artesian Water Company,
Limited, the same having been withdrawn by the promoters thereof.
Mr. Hendrie, from the Standing Committee on Railways, presented their
Fifth Report, which was read as follows and adopted.
196 9TH MARCH. 1910
The Committee have carefully considered Bill (No. 52), To amend and
consolidate the Acts incorporating the Fort Erie Ferry Railway Company
and to change the name thereof to the Buffalo and Fort Erie Ferry and Rail-
way Company and have prepared certain amendments to the Bill, and have
amended the Preamble thereof so as to make the same conform with the facts
as they .appear to the Committee, and have also amended the Title to the said
Bill so that it now reads "An Act to amend the Acts incorporating the Fort
Erie Ferry Railway Company, and to change the name thereof to the Buffalo
and Fort Erie Ferry and Railway Company/7
The Committee have had before them Bill (No. 189), To amend the
Ontario Railway and Municipal Board Act, 1906, referred to the Committee
for consideration, and considering the subject of this Bill more within the
scope of the Legal Committee, would recommend that the Bill be referred to
that Committee for their consideration and Report.
Ordered, That Bill (No. 189), To amend the Ontario Railway and Munici-
pal Board Act, 1906, be referred to the Legal Committee in accordance with
the recommendation of the Standing Committee on Railways.
Ordered, That the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on
Bill (No. 48), Artesian Water Company.
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time.
Bill (No. 222), intituled "An Act to amend the Succession Duty Act,
19.09." Mr. Matheson.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time to-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the third time and passed: —
Bill (No. 26), To authorize Lester McDonnell Coulter to practice Medi-
cine in the Province of Ontario.
Bill (No. 22), Respecting the City of Peterborough.
Bill (No. 51), Respecting tEe Morrisburg Electric Railway Company.
Bill (No. 50), Respecting the Lac Seul, Rat Portage and Keewatin Rail-
way Company.
Edw. VIL 9TH MARCH. 197
Bill (No. 49), Kespecting the Iron Range Railway Company.
Bill (No. 170), Respecting the Toronto Suburban Railway Compam.
Mr. Elliott asked the following Question:
1. What is the cost for each financial year, since the inception, of the
Railway and Municipal Board. 2. How much for each year, was the cost for
(a) Salaries of Members; (&) Salaries of Staff; (c) Travelling expenses of
each Member; (d) Travelling expenses of Staff; (e) Other expenses; (f)
Total for each year of other expenses.
To which the Attorney General replied in the words and figures follow-
ing : —
Year
1906 $12,913.60
1907 24,57.9.00
1908 23,482.23
1909 19,761.25
No. 2 (a) 1906 7,944.43
1907 14,000.00
1908 14,000.00
1909 11,666.68
No. 2
No. 2
(&) 1906
2,175.58
1907
5,350.00
1908
5,500.00
1909
5,166.69
(c) 1906 Ingram A. B
443.43
Kitson H. N
209.98
Leitch J
476.88
1907 Ingram A. B
318.50
Kitson H. N
130.98
Leitch J
1,109.35
1908 Ingram A. B
324.26
Kitson H. N
128.00
Leitch J
279.85
1909 Ingram A. B
231.40
Kitson H. N.
92.30
Leitch J
212.80
198 9TH MARCH. 1910
No. 2 (d) 1906 $36.9.90
1907 271.70
1908 230.15
1909 291.03
JSTo. 2 (e) 1906 1,293.50
1907 3,398.47
1908 3,019.97
1909 2,100.35
ISTo. 2 (/) 1906 1,293.50
1.907 3,398.47
1908 3,019.97
190.9 2,100.35
Mr. Kohler asked the following Question:
(1) Do any of .the Public Institutions of the Province of Ontario pur-
chase directly their own supplies of beef, lamb, or mutton. (2) If so, which
ones. (3) What is the contract price for beef, lamb or mutton respectively,
in each case where these supplies are purchased directly. (4) What is the
average cost^price of beef, lamb and mutton respectively, purchased through
the General Purchasing Agent for these Institutions since January 1st, 1910.
To which the Provincial Secretary replied in the words and figures fol-
lowing : —
(1) Yes.
j
(2) Hospitals for Insane, Cobourg, Kingston (in part) and Penetan-
guishene. Hospital for Idiots, Orillia and Hospital for Epileptics, Woodstock.
(3)
Institution. Cost of Beef. Cost of Mutton.
Hospital for Insane, Cobourg $8.00 per cwt. $10.00 per cwt.
Hospital for Insane, Kingston $6.50 per cwt. $10.50 per cwt.
(1 consignment)
Hospital for Insane, Penetang. $9.20 per cwt.
Hospital for Idiots, Orillia $8.00 per cwt. $8.00 per cwt.
Hospital for Epileptics, Woodstock, 8c per Ib. ordinary beef, $12.50 per cwt.
lOc per Ib. for roasts.
15c per Ib. for steak.
(4) Average Price: — Beef $8.76 per cwt.
Lamb, $12.50 per cwt.
Edw. VII. 9TH MARCH. 199
Mr. MacKay (Grey) asked the following Question:
1. What was the number of convictions for infractions of the Liquor
License Act in the Town of Cobalt, in each of the years 1905 to 1909 inclusive.
2. What was the total amount of the fines imposed in each of said years for
said infractions. 3. What revenue did the Province thus obtain in each of
said years as a result of the illicit sale of liquor in Cobalt.
To which the Provincial Secretary replied in the words and figures fol-
lowing : —
(1) The number of convictions for infractions of the Liquor License
Act in the Town of Cobalt were, for 1905, 8; 1906, 46; 1907, 63; 1908, 10T;
1909, 144.
(2) The total amount of fines imposed were, in 1905, $400 ; 1906, $1,750 ;
1907, $4,575; 1908, $6,935; 1909, $13,525.
(3) The revenue the Province obtained from said fines as a result of the
illicit sale of liquor in Cobalt was, in 1905, $400; 1906, $1,730; 1907, $4,575;
1908, $6,000; 1909, $11,525.
It is to be noted that all the fines imposed were not collected. In some
cases defendants absconded from the country, and in others they were com-
mitted to prison in default of payment.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 107), Kespecting
Procedure before Justices of the Peace and Summary Convictions, having
been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hoyle reported,
That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the second time: —
Bill (No. 21), To confirm an Agreement between the City of Stratford
and the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-day.
200 9TH MARCH. 1910
Bill (No. 41), Respecting the City of Brantford and the John H. Strat-
ford Hospital.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-day.
Bill (No. 46), Respecting the City of Windsor.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-day.
Bill (No. 6), Respecting the Town of Barrie.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 27), Respecting By-law No. 663 of the Town of Barrie.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 5), To confirm an Agreement between the Township of Tay and
the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 32), Respecting the Township of Tay.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 16), Tu incorporate the Monarch Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 169), To incorporate the Niagara Falls, Welland and Dunn-
rille Electric Railway.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 18), Respecting the People's Railway.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 29), To confirm By-law No. 2116 of the City of St. Catharines.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 42), To confirm By-law No. 2126 of the City of St. Catharines
and the Agreement therein mentioned.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 56), Respecting the Town of Durham.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Edw. VII. 9TH MARCH. 201
Bill (No. 7), Eespecting the Town of Penetanguishene.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 43), Respecting the Town of Kenora.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 93), To amend an Act respecting the Township of York.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 203), Respecting Industrial Schools.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 206), Respecting the Executive Council.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 210), To amend the Ontario Railway Act, 1906.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 211), To amend the Ontario Railway and Municipal Board Act.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 213), To amend the Ontario Game and Fisheries Act.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 217), To amend the Municipal Act, 1903.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 208), To amend the Act respecting the Law Society of Upper
Canada.
Referred to the Legal Committee.
Bill (No. 202), To amend the Motor Vehicles Act.
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
Bill (No. 162), The Statute Law Amendment Act, 1910.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
202 9TH MARCH. 1910
The House resolved itself into a Committee, severally to consider the fol-
lowing Bills : —
Bill (No. 41), Kespecting the City of Brantford and the John H. Strat-
ford Hospital.
Bill (No. 46), Respecting the City of Windsor.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Hoyle reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the several Bills without any amendments.
Ordered, That the Bills reported, be severally read the third time To-
morrow.
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill ("No.
171), Respecting the Registration of Instruments relating to Lands, and after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson
(Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill
with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill ("No. 179),
'the Municipal Drainage Act, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had made some progress, and directed him to ask for leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 198), To amend
the Registry Act, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
On motion of Sir James Whitney, seconded by Mr. Matheson, it was
Resolved, That Rule 50 of the Assembly be repealed and the following
substituted therefor : —
Edw. VII. 9TH MARCH. 203
LAW CLERKS.
50. — (1) It shall be the duty of the Law Clerk of Public Bills as the
Senior Officer —
(a) To prepare and advise upon such legislation as may be required
by the Executive Council or any member thereof.
(b) To revise print and put marginal notes on all Public Bills ex-
cept those to amend the Municipal or Assessment Acts and
those usually referred to the Municipal Committee and gen-
erally to be responsible for the correctness of all such Bills in
their various stages.
(c) To report to the Lieutenant-Governor in Council any provisions
in such Public Bills deserving of special attention or which
appear to prejudicially affect the public interest or which re-
quire amendment.
(d) To be present when required on the floor of tm- House when
a Public Bill other than one to amend the Municipal or Assess-
ment Act, or one referred to the Municipal Committee, is in
Committee of the Whole House and to revise and certify every
such Bill before the third Reading.
(e) To act as Secretary of the Legal Committee and when the Muni-
cipal and Private Bills Committees are sitting at the same
time, of the Private Bills Committee.
(f ) To prepare after the close of the Session an Index of the Public
Acts for the Annual Volume of Statutes.
(g) To prepare and hand to the Clerk of the House, Resolutions
under any sections of such Bills which appropriate any part of
the Public Revenue or any tax or impost to any purpose.
(2) It shall be the duty of the Law Clerk of Private and Municipal
Bills—
(a) To revise, print and put marginal notes upon all Private Bills,
Bills to amend the Municipal or Assessment Act and Bills
usually referred to the Municipal Committee and generally to
be responsible for the correctness of all such Bills in their vari-
ous stages.
(b) To see that Private Bills are got in as far as possible before the
House meets and that the Petitions and proofs required in con
nection therewith are duly filed.
204 9TH MARCH. 1910
(c) To advise the Chairman of the Standing Orders Committee on
such Petitions and proofs.
(d) To examine every Private Bill, every Bill to amend the Muni-
cipal or Assessment Act and every Bill usually referred to the
Municipal Committee and if the Bill contains any manifest
error or impropriety to communicate with the promoter thereof
with a view to its correction before printing.
(e) To report to the Chairman of the Private Bills Committee any
provisions in Private Bills which are at variance with general
Acts on the subjects to which such Bills relate or with the usual
provisions of private Acts on similar subjects and any provisions
deserving of special attention.
(f ) To report to the Chairman of the Municipal Committee on all
Bills to amend the Municipal or the Assessment Act or which
may be referred to that Committee.
(g) To act as Secretary of the Private Bills Committee and the
Municipal Committee.
(h) To be present when required on the floor of the House when any
Private Bill or a Bill to amend the Municipal Act or Assess-
ment Act or a Bill referred to the Municipal Committee is in
Committee of the Whole House and to revise and certify every
such Bill before the third Reading.
(i) To see that the annual volume of the Statutes is prepared and
printed within thirty days after the close of the Session.
(j) To prepare and hand to the Clerk of the House, Resolutions under
any sections of such Bills which appropriate any part of the
public revenue or any tax or impost to any purpose.
(k) To report to the Clerk of the House any Bills which should be
referred to the Ontario Railway and Municipal Board or the
Commissioners of Estates Bills under Rules 6 Id and 62.
(3) It shall be the duty of the Chief Clerk of Committees—
(a) To call together all Standing and Select Committees of the
House.
(b) To keep the Private Bills Register.
(c) To Act as Clerk of the Railway Committee and the Standing
Orders Committee.
Edw. VIL 9TH AND 10TH MARCH. 205
(d) To perform such matters of routine as may be assigned to him.
2. That Rule 6 la of the Assembly be amended by striking out the last
three lines.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House, by command of His Honour the
Lieutenant-Governor : —
Report upon the Feeble Minded, in Ontario, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 23.)
Also — Return to^an Order of the House of the Fourth day of March, 1910,
for a Return of copies of the Reports relating to the cause of the fire in the
Parliament Buildings. (Sessional Papers, No. 68.)
Also — Return to an Order of the House of the Fourth day of February,
1910, for a Return shewing: (a) What is the area of the Gillies Limit, (b)
How much of the area has been reported to the Government to be mineralized.
(c) How much of the area has been prospected, (d) How much of the area
has been sold, (e) What are the dates of the respective sales, the amount
sold in each case, the names of the purchasers and the prices obtained in each
case. (Sessional Papers, No. 48.)
The House then adjourned at 6.05 p.m.
Thursday, 10th March, 1.910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'Clock, P.M.
The following Petitions were read and received: —
Of the County Council of. the United Counties of Stormont, Dundas and
Glengarry, praying for certain amendments to the Act to prevent the spread
of Noxious Weeds.
Of the Township Council of Wallace ; also, of the District Labour Coun-
cil of Toronto, severally praying for certain amendments to the Assessment
Act, respecting the Taxation of Farm Buildings.
206 10TH MARCH. 1910
Mr. Hanna, from the Standing Committee on Municipal Law, presented
their Second Report, which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bills and report
the same without amendments: —
Bill (No. 165), To amend the Ditches and Watercourses Act.
Bill (No. 188), To amend the Municipal Light and Heat Act.
The Committee have also carefully considered the following Bill and re-
port the same with certain amendments.
Bill (No. 84.), To amend the Municipal Waterworks Act.
Mr. Lucas, from the Select Committee to which was referred Bill (No.
88), Respecting Telephone Systems, presented their Report which was read
as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully considered the Bill and have prepared
certain amendments thereto.
Mr. Macdiarmid, from the Standing Committee on Agriculture and
Colonization, presented their First Report, which was read as follows and
adopted.
The Committee have carefully considered Bill (No. 86), To amend the
Act for the protection of Sheep and to impose a Tax on Dogs and have pre-
pared certain amendments thereto.
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 223), intituled "An Act to amend the Municipal Act." Mr.
Duff.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 224), intituled "An Act respecting certain Municipal By-laws
and Agreements." Mr. Beck.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Edw. VII. IOTH MARCH. 207
Bill (No. 225), intituled "An Act respecting the Hydro-Electric Power
Commission of Ontario." Mr. Beck.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (ISTo. 226), intituled "An Act to amend the Department of Educa-
tion Act." Sir James Whitney.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
Bill (No. 227), intituled "An Act to amend the Land Titles Act." Mr.
Matheson.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the third time and passed: —
Bill (No. 127), Respecting Short Forms of Conveyances.
Bill (No. 128), Respecting Short Forms of Leases.
Bill (No. 129), Respecting Short Forms of Mortgages.
Bill (No. 131), Respecting Mortgage of Real Estate.
Bill (No. 135), Respecting the Limitation of Actions.
Bill (No. 55), Respecting Levying and Collecting Tolls on the Missis-
sippi River.
X
Bill (No. 41), Respecting the City of Brantford and the John H. Strat-
ford Hospital.
Bill (No. 46), Respecting the City of Windsor.
wavs.
The following Bills were severally read the second time: —
Bill (No. 209), To amend the Act for the Improvement of Public High-
Referred to the Municipal Committee.
208 IOTH MARCH. 1910
Bill (No/215), To amend the Municipal Act.
Referred to the Legal Committee.
Bill (No. 221), To amend the Act for the Prevention of Accidents by
Fire in Hotels and other like Buildings.
Referred to the Legal Committee.
Bill (No. 218) , To prevent the spread of Insect and Fungous Diseases
injurious to Vegetation.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 219). Respecting Certain Public School Matters in the City
of Toronto.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 222), To amend the Succession .Duty Act, 1909.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill( ^o. 52), To amend the Act incorporating the Fort Erie Ferry!
Railway Company and to change the name thereof to the Buffalo and Forfc
Erie Ferry and Railway Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 28), To incorporate the Hamilton School of Anatomy.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. ,95), Respecting the City of Guelph.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 44), Respecting Simcoe Railway and Power Company.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Mr. Stock asked the following Question:
(1) Has the Government received any suggestion or recommendation
that "Lesson Helps" be issued to be used in connection with the Public School
Readers. (2) If so, from whom have such suggestions or recommendations
been received. (3) Has the Department of Education decided to issue such
"Lesson Helps." Is it the intention of the Department of Education to
withdraw the Public School Primer.
Edw. VII. 10TH MARCH. 209
To which the Prime Minister replied in the words following: —
(1) Yes. (2) From the Consultative Committee which assisted in the
preparation of the Headers. (3) That has been its intention from the begin-
ning and much of the material is now ready. (4) No.
The House resolved itself into a Committee, severally to consider the fol-
lowing Bills: —
Bill (No. 6), Respecting the Town of Barrie.
Bill (No. 27), Eespecting By-law No. 663 of the Town of Barrie.
Bill (No. 5), To confirm an Agreement between the Township of Tay
and the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada.
Bill (No. 32), Respecting the Township of Tay.
Bill (No. 7), Respecting the Town of Penetanguishene.
Bill (No. 43), Respecting the Town of Kenora.
Bill (No. 93), To amend an Act respecting the Township of York.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Hoyle reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the several Bills without any amendments.
Ordered, That the Bills reported, be severally read the third time To-
morrow.
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No.
179), The Municipal Drainage Act, and after some time spent therein Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
210 10TH MARCH. 1910
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 212),
Respecting the Devolution and Distribution of Estates and, after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville)
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain
amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 203),
Respecting Industrial Schools and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 167),
To amend the Assessment Act and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 191),
Respecting Town Sites, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker re-
sumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 158),
The Public Works Act of Ontario, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the Bill without amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
Edw. VII. IOTH MARCH. 211
Mr. Hanna presented to the House, by command of His Honour the
Lieutenant-Governor : —
Report of the Bureau of Mines for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers,
No. 4.)
Also — Report on the operation of the Liquor License Acts, Ontario, for
the ^ear 1909. (Sessional Papers, No. 2T.)
Also — Report of the Agricultural College and Experimental Farm for
the year 1909. (Sessional Papers, No. 29.)
Also — Report of the Ontario Veterinary College for the year 1909.
(Sessional Papers, No. 30.)
Also — Report of the Ontario Agricultural and Experimental Union for
the year 1909. (Sessional Papers, No. 31.)
Also--Report of the Fruit Growers' Association for the year 1909.
(Sessional Papers, No. 32.)
Also — Report of the Fruit Branch for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers,
No. 33.)
Also — Report of the Ontario Vegetable Growers for the year 1909.
(Sessional Papers, No. 34.)
Also — Report of the Ontario Corn Growers for the year 1909. (Session-
al Papers, 35.)
Also — Report of the Entomological Society for the year 1909. (Ses-
sional Papers, No. 36.)
Also — Report of the Bee Keepers' Association for the year 1909. (Ses-
sional Papers, No. 37.)
Also — Report of the Dairymen's Association for the year 1909. (Ses-
sional Papers, 38.)
Also — Report of the Horticultural Societies for the year 1909. (Ses-
sional Papers, No. 44.)
Also — Report of the Bureau of Industries for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers. No. 45.)
212 10TH MARCH. 19iO
Also — Report of the Inspectors of Factories for the year 1909. (Ses-
'sional Papers, No. 46.)
Also — Return to an Order of the House, of the 22nd February, 1910, for
a Return shewing: All awards by any Arbitrator or Board of Arbitration, to
settle disputes between the Hydro-Electric Power Commission and those over
whose lands the Commission have taken easements. (Sessional Papers, No. 69.)
Also — Return to an Order of the House, of the 25th February, 1910, for
a Return shewing: The total amount paid for inspection and overseeing work
done on building Colonization Roads during the years 1908 and 1909. (Ses-
sional Papers, No. 70.)
Also — Return to an Order of the House, of the 25th February, 1910, for
a Return shewing: 1. The amount of Provincial money (if any) loaned to
Municipalities of the Province for Drainage purposes during each of the years
1904 to 1909, both inclusive. 2. The names of the Municipalities and the
amount loaned to each in each of the said years. 3. The rate of interest
charged the Municipalities, if other than four per cent. 4. The Special Grants
(if any) given to Municipalities for Drainage Schemes during the said years,
the names of the Municipalities to which given and the amount given each.
(Sessional Papers, No. 71.)
Also — Return to an Order of the House, of the 16th February, 1910, for
a Return shewing the number of permits and extensions granted to Public
School Teachers during the years 1908 and 1909: — (1) The reason for grant-
ing such permits and extensions. (2) How many of the Teachers who
received permits had previously taught. (3) The ages of the Teachers who
received such permits and extensions. (Sessional Papers, No. 72.)
Also — Return to an Order of the House, of the 3rd March, 1910, for a
Return shewing what steps, if any, the Canadian Northern Ontario Railway
Company has taken towards the building of a section of the Railway into the
clay belt of Northern Ontario in aid of which this House voted to the Company
at its last Session a subsidy of four thousand acres of land for every mile of
the Railway which may be constructed by the Company on certain conditions
among others that operations be commenced within one year from the date
of the passing of the Act, April 13th, 1909. (Sessional Papers, No. 73.1
The House then adjourned at 5.30 P.M.
tidw. V1L HTH MARCH. 213
Friday, llth March, 1910.
PEAYERS. 3 O'Clock, P.M.
The following Petition was brought up and laid upon the Table: —
Mr. Lucas, The Petition of the District Labour Council of Toronto.
Mr. Lucas, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, presented their
Ninth Report, which was re-ad as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bills and report
the same without amendment : —
Bill (No. 99), To confirm an agreement between the Town of Cobalt and
the Township of Coleman.
Bill (No. 54), To incorporate the Port Arthur Young Men's Christian
Association.
The Committee have also carefully considered the following Bills and
report the same with amendments.
Bill (No. 20), Respecting the Municipality of Shuniah.
Bill (No. 36), Respecting the Monarch Fire Insurance Company, Cash,
Mutual and Stock.
Bill (No. 39), Respecting the Town of Brampton.
Bill (No. 173), Respecting the Cobalt Lake Mining Company, Limited.
Bill (No. 53), Respecting the City of Ottawa.
Bill (No. 45), Respecting the City of Port Arthur.
Bill (No. 34), Respecting the City of Fort William.
Bill (No. 38), Respecting the City of Hamilton, and
Bill (No. 59), Respecting the City of Toronto.
214 HTH MARCH. 1910.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing,
be remitted on Bill (No. 47), To incorporate the Osteopathic College of On-
tario, the same having been reported adversely by Committee on Standing
Orders.
The Committee recommend that the time for receiving Reports from
Committees relative to Private Bills be further extended until and inclusive
of Tuesday the Fifteenth day of March, instant.
Mr. Hanna, from the Standing Committee on Municipal Law, presented
their Third Keport, which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bills and report
thi.* same without amendment: —
Bill (No. 197), To amend the Ontario Municipal Securities Act, 1908.
Bill (No. 209), To amend the Act for the Improvement of Public High-
ways.
The Committee have also carefully considered the following Bills and
report the same with amendments: —
Bill (No. 183), To amend the Act respecting Statute Labour.
Bill (No. 207), To amend the Local Municipal Telephone Act, 1908.
The Committee have also carefully considered Bills Numbers 60, 63, 66,
70, 72, 74, 75, 77, 79, 81, 83, 92, 94, 97, 172, 175, 185, 190, 192, 195 and
199, To amend the Municipal Act and so much of their provisions as have been
approved of, have been embodied in a Bill intituled "The Municipal Amend-
ment Act, 1910."
Ordered, That the time for receiving reports from Committees relative to
Private Bills be further extended until and inclusive of Tuesday the Fifteenth
day of March, instant.
Ordered, That the fees, less the actual cost of printing, bo remitted on
Bill (No. 47), Osteopathic College.
Edw. VII. HTH MARCH. 215
The following Bills were severally introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 228), intituled "An Act respecting Steam Boilers." Mr.
Reaume.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 22.9), intituled "An Act respecting Juvenile Courts." Mr.
Hanna.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 230), intituled "An Act to amend the Liquor License Act." Mr.
Hanna.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
Bill (No. 231), intituled "An Act to amend the Ontario Companies Act."
Mr. Hanna.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time on Monday next.
The following Bills were severally read the third time and passed : —
Bill (No. 113), Respecting Disputes concerning Boundary Lines.
Bill (No. 143), Respecting Limited Partnerships.
Bill (No. 176), To amend Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Railway
Act.
Bill (No. 64), To amend the High Schools Act.
Bill (No. 191), Respecting Town Sites.
Bill (No. 6), Respecting the Town of Barrie.
Bill (No. 2T), Respecting By-law No. 663 of the Town of Barrie.
Bill (No. 5), To confirm an Agreement between the Township of Tay
and the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada.
Bill (No. 32), Respecting the Township of Tay.
216 UTII MARCH. 1910.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (Nov 145), Respect-
ing Mortgages and Sales of Personal Property having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee ; and, after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry re-
ported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 115), Respect-
ing the Expenses of the Administration of Justice having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself intq the Committee ; and, after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry re-
ported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
Mr. McDougal asked the following Question:
(1) How many immigrants came to Ontario owing to Provincial grants
and organization in (a) 1908; (&) 1909. (2) From whence did they come.
(3) What was their previous employment. (4) How many went on to farms.
(5) How many are still on farms.
To which the Minister of Agriculture replied as follows: —
(1) It is impossible for the Government to know definitely how many im-
migrants came to Ontario owing to Provincial grants and organization in 1 908
and 1909. This Government, along with the Government of Canada, the vari-
ous steamship and railway companies, and also some private corporations, are
all engaged in advertising the advantages of this Province in Great Britain
and Ireland, and all doubtless contribute towards inducing immigrants to come
to the Province of Ontario.
Those of whom we have record was, for 1908, 2,193; for 1909, 2,042;
(2) From Great Britain and Ireland. (3) Fu7l information not available.
(4) Of those on record. 2,888 were sent to farms (5) N"o information.
Edw. VII. HTH MARCH. 217
Mr. McEwing asked the following Question:
(1) Is it the intention of the Government to reduce passenger rates on
the T. and N. O. Railway to 2 cents per mile. (2) Is it the intention of the
Government to reduce the present freight rates on the T. and 1ST. O. Railway.
To which the Minister of Public Works replied: —
It is impossible for the Government to come to any definite conclusion aa
to future passenger and freight rates, at the present time, on the Temiskaming
and Northern Ontario Railway.
Mr. Reed (Wentworth) asked the following Question:
(1) What issues of Debentures have been made for Park and Water-
works purposes respectively, by the Burlington Beach Commissioners. (2)
For what length of time were the Debentures issued and at what rate of in-
terest. (3) Through whom were the Debentures sold and what price was
realized by the Commission. (4) Who were the purchasers in each case. (5)
What commission was paid in each case.
To which the Minister of Land, Forests and Mines replied in the words
following : —
(1) Debentures for Park purposes, none. Debentures for Waterworks
purposes, $20,000, in September, 1908. (2) Payable $1,000 yearly for
twenty years, with interest at five per cent. (3) Through the Commission and
at par. (4) The Bank of Hamilton. (5) No commission was paid.
Mr. Elliott asked the following Question:
What sums of money have been given by the Province of Ontario to Col-
leges or Universities in Ontario during each of the years 1906, 1907, 1908 and
1909, with the particular amount given to each in each year.
To which the Treasurer replied in the words and figures following:—
1906 "University of Toronto ~ $240,354.41
School Mining, Kingston 37,000.00
Queen's University, Kingston (Medical Faculty) 50,000.00
1907 University of Toronto 340,474.50
School Mining, Kingston 42,000.00
Queen's University, Kingston (Education of Teachers) . . 5,000.00
1908 University of Toronto 443,660.15
School Mining, Kingston 42,000.00
Queen's University, Kingston (Education of Teachers) . . 9,000.00
218 HTH MARCH. 1910.
1909 University of Toronto 508,131.99
School Mining, Kingston 62,000.00
Queen's University, Kingston (Education of Teachers) . . 4,500.00
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 186),
To amend the Ontario Medical Act, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry reported, That the Committee
had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 180),
Respecting the Manufacture and Sale of Bread, and after some time spent
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 165),
To amend the Ditches and Watercourses Act, and after some time spent there-
in, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 188), To
amend the Municipal Light and Heat Act, and after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee, severally to consider the
following Bills : —
Bill (No. 21), To confirm an Agreement between the City of Stratford
and the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada.
Bill (No. 16), To incorporate the Monarch Railway Company.
Bill (No. 169), To incorporate the Niagara Falls, Welland and Dunnville
Electric Railway.
Edw. VII. HTH MARCH. 219
Bill (No. 18), Kespecting the People's Railway.
Bill (No. 29), To confirm By-law No. 2116 of the City of St. Catharines.
Bill (No. 42), To confirm By-law No. 2126 of the City of St. Catharines
and the Agreement therein mentioned.
Bill (No. 56), Kespecting the Town of Durham.
Bill (No. 28,) To incorporate the Hamilton School of Anatomy.
Bill (No. 95), Eespecting the City of Guelph.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clark (Bruce) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the several Bills without any amend-
ments.
Ordered, That the Bills reported, be severally read the third time on Mon-
day next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 100),
Respecting the Fees of certain Public Officers, and after some time spent there-
in, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. McGarry reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 218),
To prevent the spread of Insect and Fungous Diseases Injurious to Vegetation,
and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr.
McGarry reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill
without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 219),
Respecting certain Public School matters in the City of Toronto, and after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any
amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
220 HTH MARCH. 1910.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 206),
Respecting the Executive Council, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry reported, That the Committee
had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 213),
To amend the Ontario Game and Fisheries Act, and after some time spent
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Monday next.
The following Bills were severally read the second time: —
Bill (No. 224), Respecting certain Municipal By-laws and Agreements.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 225), Respecting the Hydro-Electric Power Commission of
Ontario.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 226), To amend the Department of Education Act.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
Bill (No. 227), To amend the Land Titles Act.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 220), With
respect to Compensation to Workmen for Injury suffered in the course of
Employment, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The House then adjourned at 4.45 P.M.
Edw. VII. 14TH MARCH. 221
Monday, 14th March, 1910.
PRAYERS. 3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time: —
Bill (No. 233), intituled "An Act to amend the Act respecting the
Government House Property." Sir James Whitney.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the third time and passed: —
Bill (No. 151), To establish the Algonquin National Park of Ontario.
Bill (No. 107), Eespecting Procedure before Justices of the Peace and
Summary Convictions.
Bill (No. 168), To amend the Landlord and Tenants Act.
Bill (No. 163), To incorporate the Hurontario Kailway Company.
Bill (No. 7), Kespecting the Town of Penetanguishene.
Bill (No. 43), Eespecting the Town of Kenora.
Bill (No. 93), To amend an Act respecting the Township of York.
Bill (No. 186), To amend the Ontario Medical Act.
Bill (No. 180), Eespecting the Manufacture and Sale of Bread.
Bill (No. 165), To amend the Ditches and Watercourses Act.
Bill (No. '188), To amend the Municipal Light and Heat Act.
Bill (No. 21), To confirm an Agreement between the City of Stratford
and the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada.
Bill (No. 16), To incorporate the Monarch Railway Company.
Bill (No. 169), To incorporate the Niagara Falls, Welland and Dunnville
Electric Railway.
Bill (No. 18), Eespecting the People's Eailway.
Bill (No. 29), To confirm By-law No. 2116 of the City of St. Catharines.
222 14TH MARCH. 1910.
Bill (No. 42), To confirm By-law No. 2126 of the City of St. Catharines
and the Agreement therein mentioned.
Bill (No. 56), Respecting the Town of Durham.
Bill (No. 28), To incorporate the Hamilton School of Anatomy.
Bill (No. 95), Respecting the City of Guelph.
Bill (No. 100), Respecting the Fees of certain Public Officers.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 104), Respecting
Police Magistrates having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hoyle
reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 206), Respect-
ing the Executive Council Laving been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Sir. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr Clark
(Bruce) reported, That the Committee had amended, the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be reacl the third time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 147), Respect-
ing Contracts in relation to Goods in the possession of Agents and others having
been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
Edw. VII. 14TH MARCH. 223
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr Clark
(Bruce) reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time and passed.
The Order of the Day for tHe third reading of Bill (No. 119), Respect-
ing Constables having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend thej
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Clark
(Bruce) reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (Ko. 171), Respect-
ing the Registration of Instruments relating to Lands having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hearst
reported, That the Committee hacl amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 158), The Pub-
lic Works Act of Ontario having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hearst
reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
224 MTH MARCH. 1910.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The Order of the'Day for the third reading of Bill. (JSTo. 212), Respect-
ing the Devolution and Distribution of Estates having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
Borne time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hearst
reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No.
140), Respecting the County Courts and District Courts and after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Lennox reported, That
the Committee had made some progress, and directed him to ask for leave to
si l again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again to-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 116),
Respecting the Division Courts, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Lennox reported, That the Committee had directed
him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 196),
To amend the Judicature Act, and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Lennox reported, That the Committee had directed
him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 152), Respect-
ing the Queen \rictoria Niagara Falls Park having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith!
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
Edw. VII. MTH MARCH. 225
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Lennox
reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 115), Kespect-
ing the Expenses of the Administration of Justice having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Lennox
reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 217),
The Municipal Amendment Act, 1910, and, after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Lennox reported, That the Committee
had made some progress, and directed him to ask for leave to sit again.
Resolved, That the Committee have leave to sit again To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 222),
To amend the Succession Duty Act, 190,9, and, after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Lennox reported, That the Committee
had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow. \
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 84),
To amend the Municipal Waterworks Act and, after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Lennox reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 197),
To amend the Ontario Municipal Securities Act, 1908, and, after some time
226 14TH MARCH. 1910.
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Lennox reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 209),
To amend the Act for the Improvement of Public Highways and, after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Lennox reported,
That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amend-
ment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 183),,
To amend the Act respecting Statute Labour and, after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Lennox reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 52), To
amend the Act incorporating the Fort Erie Ferry Railway Company and to
change the name thereof to the Buffalo and Fort Erie Ferry and Railway
Company and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair;
and Mr. Lennox reported, That the Committee had directed him. to report the
Bill without amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 44),
Respecting Simcoe Railway and Power Company and, after some time spent
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mi. Lennox reported, That the
Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the second time: —
Bill (No. 228), Respecting Steam Boilers.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Edw. VII. 14TH MARCH. 227
Bill (No. 223), To amend the Municipal Act, 1903.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 229), Respecting Juvenile Courts.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill(]$To. 231), To amend the Ontario Companies Act.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 99), To confirm an Agreement between the Town of Cobalt and
the Township of Coleman.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. '54), To incorporate the Young Men's Christian Association,
Port Arthur.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 20), Respecting the Municipality of Shuniah.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 36), Respecting the Monarch Fire Insurance Company, Cash.
Mutual and Stock.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 39), Respecting the Town of Brampton.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 173), Respecting the Cobalt Lake Mining Company, Limited.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 53), Respecting the City of Ottawa.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 45), Respecting the City of Port Arthur.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
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15TH MARCH. 1910
Bill (No. 34), Eespecting the City of Fort William.
Keferred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 38), Kespecting the City of Hamilton.
Keferred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House, by command of His Honour the
Lieutenant-Go vernor : —
Report of the Minister of Lands, Forests and Mines, for the year 1909.
(Sessional Papers, No. 3.)
Also — Report of the Provincial Municipal Auditor, for the year 1909.
(Sessional Papers, No. 8.)
Also — Report of the Bureau of Labour, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 15.)
Also — Report upon the Common Gaols, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 25.)
Also — Report of the Department of Agriculture, for the year 190.9. (Ses-
sional Papers, No. 28.)
Also — Report of the Bureau of Colonization, for the year Il/u9. (Ses-
sional Papers , No. 74).
The House then adjourned at 5 P.M.
Tuesday, 15th March, 1910.
PRAYEBS. 3 O'CLOCK, P.M.
Mr. Lucas, from the Standing Committee on Legal Bills, presented their
First Report which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee have carefully considered the following Bill and report
the same with certain amendments : —
Edw. VII. 15TH MARCH. 229
Bill (No. 174), To revise and amend the Chartered Accountants Act
The Committee have also carefully considered the following Bills and
report the same without any amendment: —
Bill (No. 200), To further amend the Pharmacy Act.
Bill (No. 208), To amend the Act respecting the Law Society of Upper
Canada.
Bill (No. 18,9), To amend the Ontario Railway and Municipal Board
Act, 1906.
Mr. Lucas, from the Standing Committee on Private Bills, presented
their Tenth Report which was read as follows and adopted.
The Committee recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of printing,
be remitted on Bill (No. 57), Respecting the Town of Trenton, and on Bill
(No. 177), Respecting the City of Toronto, the same having been withdrawn
by the promoters thereof.
Your Committee also recommend that the fees, less the actual cost of
printing, be remitted on Bill (No. 54), To incorporate the Port Arthur Young
Men's Christian Association, on the ground that the Bill is one relating to an
Educational or Religious Institution.
Ordered, That the fees, less the actual cost of printing, be remitted on
the following Bills: (No. 57), Town of Trenton; (No. 177), City of Toronto,
and (No. 54), Port Arthur Y. M. C. A.
The following Bills were severally read the third time and passed: —
Bill (No. 206), Respecting the Executive Council.
Bill (No. 203), Respecting Industrial Schools.
Bill (No. 52), To amend the Act incorporating the Eort Erie Ferry Rail-
way Company and to change the name thereof to the Buffalo and Fort Erie
Ferry and Railway Company.
Bill (No. 44), Respecting Simcoe Railway and Power Company.
230 IOTH MARCH. 1910.
Bill (No. 222), To amend the Succession Duty Act, 1909.
Bill (No. 84), To amend the Municipal Waterworks Act.
Bill (No. 197), To amend the Ontario Municipal Securities Act, 1908.
Bill (No. 209), To amend the Act for the Improvement of Public High-
ways.
Bill (No. 183), To amend the Act respecting Statute Labour.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 104), Respect-
ing Police Magistrates having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson
(Grenville) reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
On motion of Mr. Matheson, seconded by Mr. Hanna,
Ordered, That the House do forthwith resolve itself into a Committee of
the Whole to consider a certain proposed Resolution respecting the Assurance!
Fund under the Land Titles Act.
Sir James Whitney acquainted the House that His Honour the Lieu-
ten ant-Governor, having been informed of the subject matter of the proposed
Resolution recommends it to the consideration of the House.
Edw. VII. IOTH MARCH. 231
The House then resolved itself into the Committee.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That all money paid under subsection 2 of section 130 of the
Land Titles Act, as re-enacted by 3 Edw. VII. , c. 12, s. 5, and in Court at the
credit of the "Assurance Fund under The Land Titles Act" account and all
money hereafter payable under the said subsection shall on his demand be paid
to the Treasurer of Ontario, and the Treasurer shall on receipt of such money
issue to the Accountant of the Supreme Court in trust, Ontario Government
Stock to an amount equal to the sum or sums so received, and such stock shall
represent the "Assurance Fund under The Land Titles Act" and be available
for the same purposes. j
That the stock referred to shall be payable or redeemable at such time and
shall be subject to such conditions as to inscription, registration and transfer
thereof as the Lieutenant-Governor in Council may deem advisable, and shall
bear interest at the rate of two and one half per centum per annum.
That the said stock, together with the interest thereon, shall be charged
upon and paid out of the Consolidated Kevenue Fund.
That all sums which become payable out of the said "Assurance Fundl
under The Land Titles Act," shall to the extent, but not exceeding the amount,
of such fund be paid by the Treasurer of Ontario to the persons entitled thereto,
out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund, on the production of the Order of the
Court or Judge authorizing or directing the payment to be made or of a cer^
tified copy thereof, and the sums so paid out shall be credited as payments ofl
account of the stock in the hands of the Accountant, and the amount thereof
shall be reduced accordingly.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported,
That the Committee had come to a certain Resolution.
Ordered, That the Report be now received,
Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported the Resolution as follows: —
Resolved, That all money paid under subsection 2 of section 130 of the
Land Titles Act, as re-enacted by 3 Edw. VII., c. 12, s. 5, and in Court at the
credit of the "Assurance Fund under The Land Titles Act" account and all
money hereafter payable under the said subsection shall on his demand be paid
to the Treasurer of Ontario, and the Treasurer shall on receipt of such money
issue to the Accountant of the Supreme Court in trust, Ontario Government
Stock to an amount equal to the sum or sums so recovered, and such stock shall
represent the "Assurance Fund under The Land Titles Act" and be available
for the same purposes.
That the stock referred to shall be payable or redeemable at such time and
shall be subject to such conditions as to inscription, registration and transfer
232 15TH MARCH. 1910.
thereof as the Lieutenant-Governor in Council may deem advisable, and shall
bear interest at the rate of two and one half per centum per annum.
That the said stock together with the interest thereon, snail be charged
upon and paid out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund.
That all sums which become payable out of the said "Assurance Fund
•under The Land Titles Act/' shall to the extent, but not exceeding the amount,
of such fund be paid by the Treasurer of Ontario to the persons entitled thereto,
out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund, on the production of the Order of the
Court or Judge authorizing or directing the payment to be made or of a cer-
tified copy thereof, and the sums so paid out shall be credited as payments on
account of the stock in the hands of the Accountant, and the amount thereof
shall be reduced accordingly.
The Resolution having been read the second time, was agreed to, and re-
ferred to the Committee of the Whole House on Bill (No. 227), To amend
The Land Titles Act.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 219), Respect-
ing Certain Public School matters in the City of Toronto having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson
(Grenville) reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 116), Respect-
ing the Division Courts having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith*
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after1
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair: and Mr. Ferguson
(Grenville) reported That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
Edw. VII. 15TH MARCH. 233
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No.
140), Respecting the County Courts and District Courts and after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville)
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with curia*^
amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
i
The House again resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No.
217), The Municipal Amendment Act, 1910, and after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 227),
To amend the Land Titles Act, and after some time spent therein, .Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 2328),
Respecting Steam Boilers and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker re-
sumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee
had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 22.9),
Respecting Juvenile Courts, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair: and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered. That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
15TR MARCH. 1910.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 231),
To amend the Ontario Companies Act, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, that the
Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration lorihwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. SG),
To amend the Act for the Protection of Sheep and to impose a Tax on Dogs,
and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr.
Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to re-
port the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time to-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 31),
Respecting the City of Fort William, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hoyle reported, That the Committee
had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, we agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
Mr. Stock asked the following Question:
1. How many convictions have been made in the Province, under the
Motor Vehicles Act, during the years 1908 and 1909. 2. What are the mimo*
of the convicted and of the convicting Magistrates. 3. The amounts of the
fines and costs imposed and the number of the imprisonments.
Edw. VII. 15TH MARCH. 235
To which the Provincial Secretary replied in the words and figures fol-
lowing : —
Fine & costs
Name of and number
Date. Name of Convicted. Convicting Address. of imprison-
Magistrate. ments.
Aug. 5, 1909 O. S- Barker T. H. Lloyd Newmarket $1.
June 5, 1909 Graham McLaurin . . George O'Keef e Ottawa
June 7, 1909 Welland Woodruff ..Alexander Fraser ..Niagara Falls,
Ont
Sept. 22, 1909 F. D. Featherston-
haugh P. V. ZHlis Toronto $15.
Oct. 29, 1909 M. A. Benjamin R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
July 27, 1909 Edward Brown John A. Ramsden ..Toronto Suspended
sentence.
Aug. 27, 1909 Allan Shore J. i ohen Toronto $5.
Aug. 23, 1909 Wm. M. Adams P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 22, 1909 W. Newsome R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 22, 1909 J. J. Main P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 27, 1909 William Hyslop R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Oct. 4, 1909 A.G.Randall R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Oct. 20, 1909 M. A. Kennedy R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Nov. 24, 1909 M.A.Kennedy P. V. Ellis Toronto $15.
Aug. 20, 1909 Chas. S. Murray ... P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 29, 1909 R. J. Hanna R. E. Kingsford Toronto $5.
Oct. 7, 1909 Michael Kennedy . . . R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Oct. 15, 1909 Ira Bates R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Oct. 14, 1909 H. B. Greening Geo. F. Jelf s Hamilton
Sept. 15, 1909 W. A. Scctt P.V.Ellis Toronto $5.
Nov. 5, 1909 A. C. Knight R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
June 30, 1909 William Hyslop P. V. Ellis Toronto $2.
Dec. 17, 1909 George Snevenson . .R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Sept. 25, 1909. ; W. J. Clark L. A. Smith Ottawa $25.
May 31, 1909 Charles Sturgeon ...W. C. Dobie Port Arthur $10 & costs
($2.25).
Aug. 13, 1909 S. H. Wheeler P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 28, 1909 H. G- Saunders R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
June 22, 1909 William Hislop Francis Love London
Oct. 1, 190-9 Horace Tonks R. E. Kingsford Toronto $2.
Sept. 9, 1909 H. Galbraith P.V.Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 27, 1909 Edward Rawson . . .P. V. Ellis Toronto $20 & costs.
Sept. 4, 1909 William Stone Geo. Fred Jelfs Hamilton $20.
Oct. 18, 1909 Thomas Kerr R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Oct. 8, 1909 L. B. Howland R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 9, 1909 A. G. Hartrick P. V. Ellis Toronto $2.
Aug. 5, 1909 F. Wainwright Geo. Fred Jelfs Hamilton $10.
June 23, 1909 Richard Watt Francis Love London
Oct. 14, 1909 J. M. Young Geo. Fred Jelfs Hamilton
Sept. 29, 1909 A. Orr R. E. Kingsford Toronto $5.
Nov. 6, 1909 Dr. J. Winnett R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15 & costs.
Sept. 8, 1909 G. E. Henderson . . .R. E. Kingsford Toronto $5.
Sept. 27, 1909 D. J. Sellers P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Nov. 4, 1909 George S. Gray R. E. Kingsford . . . .Toronto $15.
Oct. 22, 1909 George S. Gray R. E. ingsford Toronto $10.
Oct. 11, 1909 George S. Gray R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 13, 1909 James Holmes ... .H. F. Holland Cobourg $20 & costs.
Oct. 14, 1909 Paul J. Myler Geo. Fred Jelfs Hamilton
Oct. 7, 1909 T. F. Kerr R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Nov. 3, 1909 R. N. N. Mclntyre. .R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Oct. 22, 1909 G. B. McGillivray . .R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Aug. 20, 1909 Wm. A. Manion P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
July 16, 1909 N. A. Bell P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 14, 1909 R. S. Morris Geo. Fred Jelfs Hamilton
Sept. 22, 1909 David Elliott P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 30, 1909 J. W. Commeford ..R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
June 1, 1909 W. H. A. Fraser .... George O'Keefe Ottawa
Sept. 25, 1909 Charles W. F. GorrellL. A. Smith Ottawa $25.
IOTH MARCH. 1910.
Fine & costs
Name of
and number
Date. Name of Convicted. Convicting
Address. of imprison-
Magistrate.
ments.
Aug. 20, 1909 J. A. Walker P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Nov. 3, 1909 Walter Spanner . . .R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Sept. 17, 1909 James Curry P. V. Ellis Toronto $5
Aug. 3, 1909 T. L. Wilson P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 29, 1909 Burton W. Young. . .W. C. Livingston. . .Brantford $17 costs.
Aug. 27, 1909 Geo. P. McGann....J Cohen Toronto $5.
Aug. 16, 1909 Geo. K. McGuire ...P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 16, 1909 J. L. Smith Geo. Fred Jelfs Hamilton $20.
Sept. 14, 1909 H. J. Petrie Geo. Fred Jelfs Hamilton $30.
Oct. 20, 1909 J. J. Brown R. E. Kingsford ..Toronto $10.
Oct. 20, 1909 Arthur Pogson R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
July 17, 1909 Dr. Geo. A. Field ..H. F. Holland Cobourg $1.
Aug. 20, 1909 Fred W. Hudson P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 27, 1909 Sheppard McHenry.R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Aug. 23, 1909 Norman Bellman Toronto $5.
Dec. 1, 1909 W. J. Trethwey R- E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
July 6, 1909 J- H. Kammerer A. B. Foran Winona $10.
Sept. 23, 1909 Charles Smith P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 15, 1909 F. W. Baillie R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Nov. 5, 1909 T. S. Kerr R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Sept. 29, 1909 J. 0. H. Denny Charles E. Riggins.Beamsville $10.
Sept. 17, 1909 T. A. N. Powell P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 1, 1909 W. L. Small P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 2, 1909 John A. McKee P- V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 27, 1909 John A. McKee R. E. Kingsford Toronto $5.
Oct. 1, 1909 William A. Kemp. . .R. E. Kingsford Toronto $5.
Aug. 18, 1909 F. E. Mutton P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Dec. 6, 1909 J. Curry R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Oct. 18. 1909 J. Curry R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
July 20, 1909 W. H. Morgan P. V. Ellis . . . Toronto $5.
Oct. 14, 1909 John Hallam Hamilton
Aug. 27, 1909 Frank B. Dineen ...J. Cohen Toronto $5.
Aug. 30, 1909 Edward Hensey P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 15, 1909 E. Howsey P. V. Ellis Toronto $2.
Oct. 4, 1909 M. f. Ryan R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Nov. 19, 1909 Geo. E. Millichamp.R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Aug. 20, 1909 Ernest J. Livington.P- V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Nov. 4, 1909 W. J. Evans R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Aug. 11, 1909 Valmer Armstrong . . James E. Hoover . . Selkirk $20.
Oct. 29, 1909 J- A. Harvey R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Nov. 26, 1909 John King P.V.Ellis Toronto $15.
^ug. 31, 1909 Thomas Southworth . P- V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 13, 1909 Geo. M. Kennedy P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 23, 1909 E. R. McCall P.V.Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 7, 1909 R. E. McCall P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 18, 1909 Gordon Donnelly . . . R- E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Oct. 22, 1909 Gordon Donnelly . . . R- E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 22, 1909 E. B. Ryckman P- V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 9, 1909 Charles Band p- V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 9, 1909 Charles W. Band p- V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 22, 1909 C. W. Band p- V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 10, 1909 A. J. Gough P- v. Ellis Toronto ... $2.
Aug. 30, 1909 Vincent Brennan ..G. J. Leggatt Windsor $25.
Sept. 29, 1909 P. A. Manning Charles E. Riggins . . Beamsville $10.
Aug. 26, 1909 Russel A. Alger G. J. Leggatt Windsor $10.
Sept. 1. 1909 Andrew Martin R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Aug. 9, 1909 J. J. Dawson P.V.Ellis Toronto $2.
Aug. 25, 1909 Walker Bell P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 3, 1909 F. J. Ure E. E. Harvey Norwich $20.
Sept. 14, 1909 D. Ryan G. F. Jelfs Hamilton ...... $30.
Oct. 4, 1909 O. A. Cole R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 17, 1909 S. N. Hughes P. V. Ellis Toronto $2.
June 1, 1909 Russell Blackburn . . Geo. O'Keefe Ottawa $20.
Edw. VII. 15TH MARCH. 237
Fine & costs
Name of and number
Date. Name of Convicted. Convicting Address. of imprison-
Magistrate. ments.
July 23, 1909 Arthur G. Penman .. P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 29, 1909 R. Y. Eaton R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Oct. 15, 1909 R. Y. Eaton R. E. Kingsford Toronto
Oct. 20, 1909 P. J- Mulqueen . . . . W. C. Livingston Brantofrd
Oct. 29, 1909 P. J. Mulqueen W. C. Livingston Brantford $10.
Sept. 28, 1909 P. J. Mulqueen Joseph C. McFarland.Queensville $20.
Oct. 22, 1909 iff. Backrack R. E. Kingsford . . .Toronto $10.
July 22, 1909 Fred W. Bates P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 24, 1909 .Arthur Pogson P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Nov. 5, 1909 W. R. Travers R- E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Sept. 29, 1909 Mrs. H. C. Hammond. R. E. Kingsford Toronto $5.
Nov. 3, 1909 A. M. Grantham . . .R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Sept. 27, 1909 A. M. Grantham P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept, 24, 1909 .. A. M. Grantham P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 7, 1L>09 SIgmund Samuels . . P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 24, 1909 William Hall P. V. Ellis Toronto '. $5.
Oct. 29, 1909 J. Ross Robertson. .R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Dec. 10, 1909 A. G. Williams J. Cohen Toronto $15.
Nov. 3, 1909 D. B. Hanna R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Oct. 28, 1909 R. B. Holden R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 14, 1909 Solomon Lorie P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 27, 1909 Andrew Wilson P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug 6, 1909 Noel Marshall P. V. Ellis' Toronto $5.
Dec. 9, 1909 E. L. Ruddy R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Oct. 22, 1909 J. A. MacDonald . . .R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Oct. 29, 1909 J. J. Vaughan R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Oct. 27, 1909 P. Parker R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Oct. 7, 1909 P. Parker R. E. Kingsford . . . -Toronto $10.
Nov. 3, 1909 .Mrs. T. M. Harris . .R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Sept. 3, 190*9 C. A. Wilson p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 3, 1909 J. R. Hoidge p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
July 22, 1909 John A. Carrick ...p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 4, 1909 Ernest Glassco R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Dec. 15, 1909 Harry H. Love R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Oct. 11, 1909 J. J. Walsh R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Oct. 15, 1909 W. J. Hand R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Nov. 23, 1909 Robt. E. Kammerer.p. y. Ellis Toronto $15.
July 20, 1909 Frank Frope p. V. Ellis ....... .Toronto $5.
Oct. 21, 1909 Marcelle Morgan . . .R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Aug. 27, 1909 Charles D. Smith j. Cohen Toronto $5.
Oct. 15, 1909 W. W. Bigley R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
July 20, 190'9 W. G. Beamish p. y. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 22, 1909 Wm. G. Beamish . . .p. y. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 20, 1909 Wm. J. Marshall p. y. Ellis . . . . . . . .Toronto $5.
Sept. 30, 1909 Geo. Puddy R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Aug. 9, 1909 A. G. Penman Chas. E. Riggins . . .Beamsville ....
Aug. 30, 1909 A. Penman p. y. Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 22, 1909 George Lawrence . . .R. E. Kingsford . . . .Toronto $10.
Oct. 1, 1909 A. T. Reid R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Dec. 2, 1909 Wm. Randle Brown. Francis Love London $5.
Sept. 15, 1909 Mrs. John Taylor . .P. V. Ellis Toronto $2.
Aug. 13, 1909 Francis W. Staples. .Francis Love .. ..London $1.
Sept. 13, 1909 A. S. Oakley p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 12, 1909 Alfred S. Oakley R. E. Kingsford . . .Toronto $10.
Aug. 27, 1909 E. A. English J. Cohen Toronto $5.
Oct. 29, 1909 T. D. Cameron R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
July 21, 1909 Daniel T. Cameron.. P. V. Ellis Toronto $2.
July 20, 1909 T. D. Cameron P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 18, 1909 J1. D. Cameron P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
July 17, 1909 Fred Cleaver P. V. Ellis ...Toronto $5.
Dec. 3, 1909 Ivan Champion W. C. Livingston ' ! ! Brantford $5.
Oct. 6, 1909 J. W. Champion ... A. B. Foran Winona $10.
Sept. 14, 1909 Fred D. Barber . . . .G. F. Jelfs Hamilton $20.
238 15TH MARCH. 1910.
Name of
Date. Name of Convicted. Convicting
magistrate.
Fine & costs
and number
Address. of imprison-
ments.
Sept. 27, 1909 Chas. W. Jones P. V. Ellis Toronto $5
Oct. 11, 1909 Charf. Jones R. E. Kingsford Toronto ! . " ." $10
Aug. 27, 1909 A. McCready J. Cohen Toronto . . " $5
Sept. 14, 1909 Thomas Sutten P. V. Ellis Toronto ..."
Sept. 22, 1909 A. G. Randall. ..... P. V. Ellis Toronto . .
Aug. 30, 1909 A. G. Randall P.V.Ellis Toronto ...
Sept. 20, 1909 A. G. Randall P.V.Ellis Toronto $5'
July 23, 1909 Alex. Gondier p. V. Ellis Toronto $5
Oct. 22, 1909 A. G. Randall R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 9, 1909 Wm. Brown P.V.Ellis Toronto $5.
Nov. 1, 1909 J. G. Robinson R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 29, 1909 W. F. Dineen R. E. Kingsford Toronto $5.
Sept. 14, 1909 F. W. Scott Geo. F. Jelfs Hamilton $20.
Aug. 23, 1909 Wm. M. Long p. V. Ellis Toronto $5
Sept. 1, 1909 W. J. Fletcher P.V.Ellis Toronto $5!
Aug. 26, 1909 J. H. Callahan G. J. Leggatt Windsor $10.
Aug. 20, 1909 Auto Express CO...G. J. Leggatt Windsor $10.
Jan. 19, 190<9 G. S. Abrey R. E. Kingsford Toronto $5.
May 20, 1909 Thomas Morel Geo. O'Keef e Ottawa
Aug. 20, 1909 ^eo. C. Heintzman . . p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 14, 1909 Edward Mclntosh. . p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 3, 1909 W. S. Dinnick p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 22, 1909 W. S. Dinnick p. V. Ellis . . . . Toronto $5.
Aug. 20, 1909 W. S. Dinnick p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 23, 1909 C. S. Pote p. V. Ellis Toronto $2.
Oct. 15, 1909 W. A. Fish R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Aug. 11, 1909 3eo. Glendenning. . . p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 14, 1909 R. Dissette C. E. Riggins Beamsville
Sept. 24, 1909 Rich. Dissette p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 27, 1909 Rich. Dissette p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Nov. 16, 1909 Jos. Noel Geo. Sharpe Ottawa $20.
May 26, 1909 Allan G. Mather . . . Geo. O'Keef e Ottawa $20.
Oct. 15, 1909 Mrs. K. S. Hamlin. . R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
July 20, 1909 Tames E. Gillies p. v. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 12, 1909 W. N. McEachren ... p. V- Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 4, 1909 . W. N. McEachren . . . Isaac Fenton Sutton, West. . . $25.
Dec, 1, 1909 Norman Fraser .... R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Aug. 23, 1909 Wm. R. Pattison . . . Toronto $5.
Aug. 25, 1909 James Murray p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 29, 1909 William Newey R. E. Kingsford Toronto $5.
Aug. 25, 1909 A. G. Randall p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 6. 1909 J. B- Forrester p. V. Ellis Toronto $2.
Aug. 16, 1909 David Bishop p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 25, 1909 James Murray p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 25, 1909 A. G. Randall p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 16, 1909 J. A. Marshall p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Nov. 17, 190;9 Frank Babcock R. E. Kingsford .... Toronto $15.
Oct. 4, 1909 R. B. Fudger R. E. Kingsford Toronto $5.
Nov. 26, 1909 Wm. W. Near P. V. Ellis Toronto $15.
Sept. 15, 1909 W. W. Near p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 17, 1909 R. W. Thompson ... p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 31, 1909 J. i,. Vokes P. V. Ellis Toronto $2.
Nov. 1, 1909 Roy Freeman G. F. Jelfs Hamilton
Aug. 12, 1909 Samuel Lavine p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 19, 1909 Dominion Bank, cor.
Yonge and King. . P. J. Woodcock . . . .Newmarket .... $20.
Aug. 20, 1909 Oliver Hazelwood ... P. V. Ellis Toronto $2.
Sept. 29, 1909 W. J. Southam Chas. E. Riggins Beamsville $10.
Sept. 23, 1909 A. F. Hale Chas. E. Riggins Beamsville $10.
Oct. 8, 1909 Allan F. Hales R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 2, 1909 Chas. Little Geo. F. Jelfs Hamilton $20.
Sept. 1, 1909 S. B. Cunningham . .Geo. F. Jelfs Hamilton $20.
Nov. 16, 1909 R. Mousseau Geo. Sharpe Ottawa $20.
Nov. 5, 1909 J. P. Eastwood R. E. Kingsford . . . .Toronto $15.
Edw. VIL 15TH MARCH. 239
Name of
Date. Name of Convicted. Convicting
Magistrate.
Fine & costs
and number
Address. of imprison-
ments.
July 26, 1909 J. T. Eastwood P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Nov. 24, 1909 vV. J. Edmanson .... P. V. Ellis Toronto $15.
Sept. 2, 1909 Thomas Orrell P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 6, 1909 John A. Melbourne. . P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
July 15, 1909 Norman 'GooderhamP. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 13, 1909 Norman GooderhamR. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 20, 1909 H. M. Harris P.V.Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 13, 1909 E. J. Humphrey P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 25, 1909 Mrs. T. G. McLaurinL. A. Smith Ottawa $25.
Nov. 16, 1909 Geo. Gillespie Geo. Sharpe Ottawa $20.
Dec. 22, 1909 John F. Brown R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Nov. 3, 1909 James F. Brown R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Sept. 8, 1909 C. Morris Chas. E. Riggins . . .Beamsville
Oct. 7, 1909 J. Oakley R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 22, 1909 R. H. Fairweather. . P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Aug. 25, 1909 Geo. Weston P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 7, 1909 W. B. Markle R. E. Kingsford Toronto $20.
Oct. 22, 1909 Mrs. A. M. Asling..R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Nov. 19, 1909 F. E. Kilvert R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Oct. 1, 1909 F. E. Kilvert R. E. Kingsford Toronto $2.
Sept. 10, 1909 R. G. Bryan P. V. Ellis Toronto $2.
Sept. 15, 1909 W. R. Wadsworth. . P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 15, 1909 Allan F. Hales p. V. Ellis Toronto $10.
Aug. 20, 1909 Frank Probesco G. J. Leggatt Windsor $10.
Sept. 29, 1909 Thomas C. Keefer, Jr. Geo. Sharpe Ottawa $20.
Sept. 15, 1909 Joseph Fox P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 16, 1909 T. E. Martin P.V.Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 7, 1909 E. C. Burson R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 10, 1909 S. L. Thome P.V.Ellis Toronto $2.
Sept. 3, 1909 J. Western P.V.Ellis Toronto $5.
Oct. 11, 1909 W. M. Wortman . . . Francis Love London $5.
Oct. 8, 1909 A. Simpson R. E. Kingsford .... Toronto $15.
Sept. 29, 1909 Jerome F. O'Connor. Chas. E. Riggins .. .Beamsville $10.
Nov. 4, 1909 Wm. H. Gueat R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Nov. 4, 1909 F. B. Robin R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Sept. 16, 1909 D. A. Lochrie p. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Dec. 3, 1909 Hanson J. Jones R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Nov. 26, 1909 W. H. Pearce p. V. Ellis Toronto $15.
Dec. 1, 1909 A. G. Randall R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Nov. 3, 1909 S. O. Murchison R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Nov. 22, 1909 Chas. Ashland R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Sept. 30, 1909 A. E. Wilson R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 16, 1909 A.E.Wilson P. v. Ellis Toronto $5.
Nov. 22, 1909 Geo. L. Vivian R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Oct. 28, 1909 William Hyslop R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 6, 1909 Wm. Hyslop R. E. Kingsford Toronto $10.
Sept. 22, 1909 Wm. Hyslop P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 23, 1909 Geo. S. Britnell P.V.Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 24, 1909 W. H. Smith P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Nov. 5, 1909 Geo. Childs R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
May 26, 1909 Pink, McVeity & Co . J. E. Askwith Ottawa
Sept. 25, 1909 Allan LaSalle L. A. Smith Ottawa $25.
Dec. 6, 1909 Oliver Hazelwood . . R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
July 23, 1909 0. Hazelwood P. V. Ellis Toronto $5.
Sept. 2, 1909 John W. Hand P. V. Ellis Toronto $2.
Sept. 28, 1909 Victor Pogue R. E. Kingsford Toronto $5.
May 24, 1909 Henry Lucas Isaac W. Plumb Prescott $20.
Nov. 16, 1909 Claude Tennant R. E. Kingsford Toronto $15.
Sept. 7, 1909 F. G. Kay R. H. Holland Port Hope $5.
Sept. 29, 1909 Alex. McLean R. E. Kingsford Toronto $5.
Sept. 25, 1909 Davenport Brouse . . Douglas Davidson . . Mimico $2.
Aug. 28, 1909 Albert Johnson ... A. B. Foran Winona $10.
Sept. 29. 1909 Herbert Kipp, Jr. . . R. E. Kingsford Toronto $5.
Aug. 17. 1909 J. W. Gibson D. Davidson Mimico $2
240 15TH MARCH. 1910.
CHAUFFEUR CONVICTIONS.
Fine & costs
Name of and number
Date. Name of Convicted. Convicting Address. of imprison-
Magistrate. ments.
July 21, 1909 Law Whiteley H. F. Hollands Cobourg $1.
Sept. 29, 1909 M. Charbonneau . . . Geo. Sharpe Ottawa $20.
July 12, 1909 Ben.t-Carr Beli T. A. O'Rourke Trenton $10.
Aug. 13, 1909 A. C. Field D. C. Dobie Port Arthur $10.
Sept. 29, 1909 Gordon C. Edwards. Geo. Sharpe Ottawa $20.
Aug. 7, 1909 W. G. Dean Isaac Fenton Sutton, West . . $25.
July 13, 1909 James Moore H. F. Holland Cobourg $2.
July 14, 1909 Benjamin Hough . . . H. F. Holland Cobourg $2.
Dec. 14, 190.9 Wm. Mahon Francis Love London $5.
July 14, 1909 Harry McMichael ..H.F.Holland Cobourg $2.
June 22, 1909 R. F. Yule H. F. Holland Cobourg $5 & costs.
May, 15, 1909 James Leitch G. J. Leggatt Windsor $10.
Aug. 18, 1909 Arthur Meddick T. J. Woodcock Newmarket $40.
July 27, 1909 Fred Jacob G. J. Leggatt Windsor $10.
Sept. 29, 1909 Cameron M. EdwardsGeo. Sharpe Ottawa $20.
July 31, 1909 Alex. Foss Isaac W. Plumb Prescott $10.
Sept. 30, 1909 Allan G. Mather Geo. Sharpe Ottawa $20.
Nov. 16, 1909 Sidney P. ClemmensGeo. Sharpe Ottawa $20.
Sept. 7, 1909 A. E. Hamilton R.H.Holland Port Hope $5.
July 10, 1909 G. T. Bishop Isaac Plumb Prescott $10 & costs.
Sept. 29, 1909 Dennis Murphy Geo. Sharpe Ottawa $20.
Total amount of fines. $2,911 00
Total number of convictions 332
Number of imprisonments None.
The House resolved itself into a Committee, severally to consider the fol-
lowing Bills : —
Bill (No. 99), To confirm an Agreement between the Town of Cobalt and
the Township of Coleman.
Bill (No. 54), To incorporate the Young Men's Christian Association,
Port Arthur.
Bill (No. 20), Eespecting the Municipality of Shuniah.
Bill (No. 36), Eespecting the Monarch Fire Insurance Company, Cash,
Mutual and Stock.
Bill (ISTo. 39), Eespecting the Town of Brampton.
Bill (No. 53), Eespecting the City of Ottawa.
Bill (No. 45), Eespecting the City of Port Arthur.
Bill (No. 38), Eespecting the City of Hamilton.
Edw. VII. 15TH MARCH. 241
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hoyle reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the several Bills without amendments.
Ordered, That the Bills reported, be severally read the third time To-
morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 226),
To amend the Department of Education Act, and after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported,
That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amend-
ment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-morrow.
The following Bills were severally read the second time : —
Bill (No. 233), To amend the Act respecting the Government House
Property.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 59), Respecting the City of Toronto.
. . Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
Bill (No. 230), To amend the Liquor License Act.
Referred to a Committee of the Whole House To-morrow.
The Order of the Day for the House to resolve itself into a Committee
of the Whole to consider Bill (No. 80), To amend the Act respecting Statute
Labour, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 181), Respect-
ing Mortmain and the Disposition of Land for Charitable Uses, having been
read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the .Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 214), To amend
the Ontario Railway Act, 1906, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be \vithclrawn.
242 15TH MARCH. 1910.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of Bill (No. 216), To amend
the Ontario Medical Act, having been read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
The Order of the Day for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of
the Whole on Bill (No. 223), To amend the Municipal Act, 1903, having been
read,
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be withdrawn.
Mr. Proudfoot moved,
That Bill (No. 89), To amend the Liquor License Act, be now read the
second time.
Mr. Hanna moved in Amendment, second by Mr. Reaume,
That all the words of the motion after the first word "That" be omitted,
and there be substituted therefor the following, " it is the duty of the Legisla-
ture to take such steps as will minimize the drink evil in this Province; that
to this end the provisions of the Liquor License Act relating to Local Option
have been enacted and have worked well and this House has confidence that
such changes, as experience in the operation of the said provisions may show
to be necessary or desirable, either in relation to the majority necessary to
bring the By-law into effect, or in other respects will, from time to time, be
proposed by the Government for the consideration of this House and this House
accordingly orders that the said Bill, be not now read a second time, but be
read a second time on this day six months."
And the Amendment, having been put to the House, was declared to be
carried on a Division.
The Main Motion, as amended, having been then proposed, the same was
carried upon a Division.
And it was
Resolved, That it is the duty of the Legislature to take such steps as will
minimize the drink evil in this Province; that to this end the provisions of
the Liquor License Act relating to Local Option have been enacted and have
worked well and this House has confidence that such changes, as experience
in the operation of the said provisions may show to be necessary, or desirable,
either in relation to the majority necessary to bring the By-law into effect or
in other respects will, from time to time, be proposed by the Government for
Edw. VII. 15TH MARCH. 243
the consideration of this House, and this House accordingly orders that the
said Bill be not now read a second time, but be read a second time this day six
months.
On motion of Sir James Whitney, seconded by Mr. Matheson,
Resolved, That wjheii this House adjourns To-day, it do stand adjourned
until Two of the Clock in the afternoon on Wednesday, the Sixteenth instant.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House
A Return to an Order of the House of the Twenty-fourth day of February,
1910, for a Return shewing: — 1. The names of the gentlemen who compose the
Commission for the Revision of the Statutes. 2. The total cost of the Revision
to date, showing in detail, the persons to whom and on what account the money
was paid. 3. When will the Statutes be completed. 4. What steps have the
Government taken to induce or insist on the Commissioners completing their
work at an early date. (Sessional Papers, No. 75.)
Also — A Return to an Order of the House of the Twenty-fifth day of
February, 1910, for a Return shewing: — 1. When was the resignation of the
late Game Warden, T. A. Hand, accepted. Was it voluntary, or was he forced
to resign. 2. What moneys had been collected by the said Hand and not ac-
counted for or returned and if Fishermen had fished and Hunters had hunted
on receipts only given by the said Hand. If so, the amount of money unac-
counted for and the number of such receipts given and to whom, together with
copies of all correspondence covering the matters referred to in this clause.
3. All correspondence in connection with the resignation of the said Hand.
4. All moneys collected by the said Hand during the years 1907 and 1908 and
of all moneys collected by the present officer, A. Calbeck, during the year 1909,
together with the names of the persons from whom the said collections were
made. (Sessional Papers, No. 76.)
Also — A Return to an Order of the House of the Thirtieth day of March,
1909, for a Return shewing : — 1. How often had the present Government been
asked for permission to institute an action in cases where a Fiat was necessary.
2. How often had such permission been granted. 3. In what cases. 4. How
often was such permission refused. 5. In what cases. (Sessional Papers,
No. 77.)
The House then adjourned at 6.15 P.M.
244 16TH MAKCII. 19.10.
Wednesday, 16th March, 1910.
PRAYEES. 2 O'CLOCK, R M.
The following Petition was read and received: —
Of the District Labour Council of Toronto, praying for certain amend-
ments to the Assessment Act, respecting Taxation of Farm Buildings.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 173),
Respecting the Cobalt Lake Mining Company, Limited, and after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Hoyle reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 59),
Respecting the City of Toronto, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time To-day.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 88), Re-
specting Telephone Systems, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hoyle reported, That the Committee had directed
him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 207),
To amend the Local Municipal Telephone Act, 1906, and after some time spent
therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) re-
ported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain
amendments.
I
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
Edw. VII. IGxii MARCH. 245
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 174),
To revise and amend the Chartered Accountants Act, and after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville)
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain
amendments.
Ordered,, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 200),
To amend the Pharmacy Act, and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 208),
To amend the Act respecting the Law Society of Upper Canada, and after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson
(Grenville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill
without any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 189),
To amend the Ontario Railway and Municipal Board Act, 1906, and after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Hoyle reported,
That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without any amend-
ment.
Ordered, That the- Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
246 16TH MARCH. 1910.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 233),
To amend the Act respecting the Government House Property, and after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Gren-
ville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with-
out any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
I
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 210),
To amend the Ontario Eailway Act, 1906, and after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair ; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
(
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 211),
To amend the Ontario Kailway and Municipal Board Act, and after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Gren-
ville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill with
certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
Mr. MacKay (Grey) moved, seconded by Mr. Stock,
That in the opinion of this House the Province and the municipalities
should unite in (a) the establishment of Technical Schools in the towns and
cities in Ontario to supplement the practical training of the workshop; (&) in
an arrangement as to the basis of support for such schools as between the
Province, the municipalities and interested manufacturers; (c) the establish-
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16TH MARCH.
247
ment in large industrial centres of Technical High Schools, and that the powers
of the municipalities should be enlarged so as to enable them to aid in the sup-
port of such schools.
Mr. Hendrie moved in Amendment, seconded by Mr. Beck,
That all the words of the motion, after the first word " That " be omitted
and that there be substituted therefor, the following: "this House appreciates
the efforts already made by the Government of the Province with reference to
Technical Education and Training Schools and desires to express its confidence
that upon the publication of the information to be gathered by the Commission
about to be appointed by the Dominion Government to enquire into the subject,
the question will be further dealt witfh by the Government of the Province
without delay and in the best interests of all concerned/'
And the Amendment, having been put, the same was carried on the follow-
ing division:
YEAS.
Anderson
Aubin
Beck
Bowyer
Brower
Calder
Charters
Clark (Bruce)
Cochrane
Craig
Dargavel
Devitt
Donovan
Doyle
Duff
Eilber
Messieurs :
FergUSOn (Simcoe)
Ferguson (Grenviile
Fisher
Fox
Fraser
Fripp
Gallagher
Galna
Grigg
Hanna
Hearst
Hendrie
Hoyle
Innes
Jamieson
Jessop
Johnson
Lackner
Lennox
Lucas
McCowan
McGarry
McKeown
McNaught
McPherson
Mason
Matheson
Morel
Musgrove
Neely
Nickle
Nixon
Norman
Pattinson
Paul
Pharand
Preston (Durham>
Preston (Lanark)
Reaume
Richardson
Ross
Shaw
Shillington
Smellie
Sulman
Torrance
Whitesides
Whitney
Wilson— 65
NAYS.
Messieurs :
Bowman McCormick
Clarke (North'm'nd) McDougal
Elliott McEwing
Kohler MacKay (Grey)
McCart
Mayberry
Proudfoot
Racine
Reed (Wentworth)
Mackay (Oxford) Reid (Renfrew)
Stock
Studholme
Truax— 18
248
16TH MARCH.
1910.
PAIRS.
Machin .
.... Tudhope.
The Main Motion as amended, having been then submitted, the same was
carried on the following division:
YEAS.
Messieurs :
Anderson
Aubin
Beck
Bowyer
Brower
Calder
Charters
Clark (Bruce)
Cochrane
Craig
Oargavel
Devitt
Donovan
Doyle
Duff
Eilber
Bowman
Elliott
Kohler
McCart
(Northum-
berland)
Ferguson (jsimcoe)
FergUSOn Grenville
Fisher
Johnson
Lackner
Lennox
Fox
Lucas
Fraser
McCowan
Fripp
Gallagher
Galna
Grigg
Hanna
McGarry
McKeown
McNaught
McPherson
Mason
Hearst
Matheson
Hendrie
Morel
Hoyle
Innes
Jamieson
Musgrove
Neely
Nickle
Jessop
Nixon
NAYS.
Messieurs :
McCormick Mayberry
McDougal Proudfoot
McEwing Racine
MacKay (Gre Reed (Wentworth)
Mackay (Oxford)
PAIRS.
Norman
Pattinson
Paul
Pharand
Preston (Durham)
Preston (Lanark)
Reaume
Richardson
Ross
Shaw
Shillington
Smellie
Sulman
Torrance
Whitesides
Whitney
Wilson — 65
Reid (Renfrew)
Stock
Studholme
Truax— 18
Machin ....
And it was
.... Tudhope.
Resolved, That this House appreciates the efforts already made by the
Government of the Province with reference to Technical Education and Train-
ing Schools, and desires to express its confidence that, upon the publication
of the information to be gathered by the Commission a,bout to be appointed
by the Dominion Government to inquire into the subject, the question will
be further dealt with by the Government of the Province without delay and
in the best interests of all concerned.
Edw. VII.
3 GTH MARCH.
249
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 224),
Respecting certain Municipal By-laws and Agreements, and after some time
spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville)
reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without
any amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (!N"o. 225),
Respecting the Hydro-Electric Power Commission of Ontario, and after some
time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Gren-
ville) reported, That the Committee had directed him to report the Bill without
any amendment.
Mr. Beck then moved,
That the Bill be now read the third time.
Mr. MacKay (Grey), moved in Amendment, seconded by Mr. McDougaL
That all the words of the Motion, after the word " That " be omitted, and
the following substituted: "the Bill be not now read the third time, but be
forthwith re-committed to a Committee of the Whole House with instructions
to amend the same by striking out clause 4.
And the Amendment, having been put, was lost upon the following
Division :
YEAS.
Messieurs :
Bowman
(Northum-
beriand)
Elliott
Kohler
McCart
McCormick
McDougal
McEwing
MacKay (Grey)
Mackay (Oxford)
Mayberry
Proudfoot
Racine
Reed (Wentworth)
Reid (Renfrew)
Stock
Studholme
Truax— 18
250
16TH MARCH.
1910.
NAYS.
Messieurs :
Anderson
FergUSOn (GrenvUle)
Lackner
Pattinson
Aubin
Fisher
Lennox
Paul
Beck
Fox
Lucas
Pharand
Bowyer
Fraser
McCowan
Preston (Durham)
Brower
Fripp
McGarry
Preston (Lanark)
Calder
Gallagher
McKeown
Eeaume
Charters
Galna
McNaught
Richardson
Clark (Bruce)
Grigg
McPherson
Ross
Cochrane
Hanna
Mason
Shaw
Craig
Hearst
Matheson
Shillington
Dargavel
Hendrie
Morel
Smellie
Devitt
Hoyle
Musgrove
Sulman
Donovan
Innes
Neely
Torrance
Doyle
Jamieson
fickle
Whitesides
Duff
Jessop
Nixon
Whitney
Eilber
Johnson
Norman
Wilson— 65
Ferguson (simcoe)
PAIRS.
Machin .
Tudhope.
The Motion for the third reading, having been then again proposed, was
then carried on the following division :
Anderson
Aubin
Beck
Bowyer
Brower
Calder
Charters
Clark (Bruce)
Cochrane
Craig
Dargavel
Devitt
Donovan
Doyle
Duff
Eilber
FergUSOn (Simcoe)
YEAS.
Messieurs :
FergUSOn (Grenville)
Fisher
Lackner
Lennox
Fox
Lucas
Fraser
McCowan
Fripp
Gallagher
Galna
Grigg
Hanna
McGarry
McKeown
McNaught
McPherson
Mason
Hearst
Matheson
Hendrie
Morel
Hoyle
Innes
Jamieson
Musgrove
Neely
Nickle
Jessop
Johnson
Nixon
Norman
Pattinson
Paul
Pharand
Preston (Durham)
Preston (Lanark)
Reaume
Richardson
Ross
Shaw
Shillington
Smellie
Sulman
Torrance
Whitesides
Whitney
Wilson— 65
Edw. VII.
16TH MAKCH.
251
NAYS.
Messieurs :
Bowman
(Nortnum-
beriand)
Elliott
Kohler
McCart
McCormick
McDougal
McEwing
MacKay
Mackay (Oxford)
Mayberry
Proudfoot
Racine
Reed (Wentworth)
Reid (Renfrew)
Stock
Studholme
Truax— 18
PAIRS.
Machin . -
Tudhope.
And the Bill was then read the third time and passed.
Mr. MacKay (Grey) moved,
That Bill (No. 164), To amend the Power Commission Act and the
Power Commission Amendment Act, 1909, be now read the second time.
And the Motion, having been submitted to the House, was lost on the
following division:
YEAS.
Messieurs :
Bowman
Elliott
Kohler
McCart
(Northum-
beriand)
McCormick
McDougal
McEwing
MacKay (Grey)
Maokay (Oxford)
Mayberry
Proudfoot
Racine
Reed (Wentworth)
Reid (Renfrew)
Stock
Truax— 17
252
16TH MARCH.
1910.
Anderson
Aubin
Beck
Bowyer
Brower
Calder
Charters
Clark (Bruce)
Cochrane
Dargavel
Devitt
Donovan
Doyle
Duff
Eilber
NAYS.
Messieurs :
FergUSOD (Grenvllle)
Fisher
Fox
Fraser
Fripp
Gallagher
Galna
Grigg
Hanna
Hearst
Hoyle
Jamieson
Johnson
Lackner
Lennox
Lucas
McCowan
McGarry
McKeown
McNaught
McPherson
Mason
Matheson
Morel
Musgrove
Neely
Nickle
Nixon
Norman
Pattinson
Paul
Pharand
Preston (Durham)
Preston (Lanark)
Eeaume
Richardson
Ross
Shaw
Smellie
Studholme
Sulman
Whitesides
Whitney
Wilson— 59
PAIRS.
Machin .... ....
And so it was declared in the negative.
Tudhope.
On Motion of Mr. Hanna, seconded by Mr. Matheson,
Resolved, That this House do forthwith resolve itself into a Committee
of the Whole to consider a certain proposed Resolution respecting Wholesale
Liquor Licenses.
Sir James Whitney acquainted the House that His Honour the Lieuten-
ant-Governor, having been informed of the subject matter of the proposed
Resolution recommends it to the consideration of the House.
The House then resolved itself into the Committee.
Edw. VII. 16TH MARCH. 253
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That Section 10 of the Act passed in the sixth year of His
Majesty's reign, chaptered 47, be amended by striking out all words therein
beginning with the words "for each wholesale license" down to and including
the figures " $350," and substituting therefor the words " for each wholesale
license $500."
1
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (GrenviUe) reported,
That the Committee had come to a Resolution.
Ordered, That the Keport be now received.
Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported the Kesolution as follows: —
Resolved, That Section 10 of the Act passed; in the sixth year of His
Majesty's reign, chaptered 47, is amended by striking out all words therein
beginning with the words " for each wholesale license " down to and including
the figures "$350," and substituting therefor the words "for each wholesale
license $500."
The Resolution having been read the second time, was agreed to, and'
referred to the Committee of the Whole House on Bill (No. 230), To amend
the Liquor License Act
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 230),
To amend the Liquor License Act, and after some time spent therein, Mr.
Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson (Grenville) reported, That
the Committee had dlirected him to report the Bill without amendment.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The following Bills were severally read the third time and passed: —
Bill (No. 115), Respecting the Expenses of the Administration of
Justice.
254: 16TH MARCH. 1910.
Bill (No. 118), Bespecting Justices of the Peace.
Bill (No. 13.9), For Quieting Titles to Eeal Estate.
Bill (No. 130), Respecting the Surrogate Courts.
Bill (No. 152), Respecting the Queen Victoria Niagara Falls Park.
Bill (No. 146), Respecting Liens of Mechanics, Wage-earners and others.
Bill (No. 150), The Woodman's Lien for Wages Act.
Bill (No. 142), Respecting the Registration of Partnerships.
Bill (No. 212), Respecting the Devolution and Distribution of Estates.
Bill (No. 213), To amend the Ontario Game and Fisheries Act.
Bill (No. 196), To amend the Judicature Act.
Bill (No. 140), Respecting the County Courts and Districts Courts.
Bill (No. 217), The Municipal Amendment Act, 1910.
Bill (No. 226), To amend the Department of Education Act.
Bill (No. 227), To amend the Land Titles Act.
Bill (No. 228), Respecting Steam Boilers.
Bill (No. 229), Respecting Juvenile Courts.
Bill (No. 231), To amend the Ontario Companies Act.
Bill (No. 86), To amend t:he Act for the Protection of Sheep and to Im-
pose a Tax on Dogs.
Bill (No. 99), To confirm an Agreement between the Town of Cobalt
and the Township of Coleman.
Bill (No. 54), To incorporate the Young Men's Christian Association,
Port Arthur.
Bill (No. 20), Respecting the Municipality of Shuniah.
Edw. VII. 16TH MARCH. 255
Bill (No. 36), Respecting the Monarch Fire Insurance Company, Cash,
Mutual and Stock.
Bill (No. 39), Respecting the Town of Brampton.
Bill (No. 53), Respecting the City of Ottawa.
Bill (No. 45), Respecting the City of Port Arthur.
Bill (No. 34), Respecting the City of Fort William.
Bill (No. 38), Respecting the City of Hamilton.
Bill (No. 59), Respecting the City of Toronto.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 133), To amend
the Mercantile Law, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend, the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry
reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 137), Respecting
Wills, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry
reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
256 16TH MARCH. 1910.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 179), The Muni-
cipal Drainage Act, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry
reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
•i
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 167), To amend
the Assessment Act, having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry
reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 218), To prevent
the spread of Insect and Fungous Diseases Injurious to Vegetation, having
been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whole, with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry
reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
Edw. VII. 16TH MARCH. 257
The Order of the Day for the third reading of Bill (No. 219), Respecting
Certain Public School Matters in the City of Toronto having been read.
Ordered, That the Order be discharged, and that the Bill be forthwith
again referred to a Committee of the Whol<\ with instructions to amend the
same.
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after
some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. Ferguson
(Grenville) reported, That the Committee had amended the Bill as directed.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
Mr. Clark (Bruce) from the Standing Committee on Printing, presented
their Second Report, which was read as follows : —
The Committee recommend that the following Documents be printed:
Report of the Minister of Lands, Forests and Mines for the year 1009.
(Sessional Papers, No. 3.)
Report of the Bureau of Mines for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers,
~
Report of the Inspector of Legal Offices for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 7.)
Report of the Inspector of Registry Offices for the year 1909. (Sessional
al Papers, No. 7.)
Report of the Provincial Municipal Auditor for the year 1909. (Ses-
sional Papers, No. 8.)
Report of the Commissioners for the Queen Victoria Niagara Falls Park
for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers, No. 9.)
Report of the Bureau of Labour for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers,
No. 15.)
Report of the Secretary and Registrar of the Province for the year 1909.
(Sessional Papers, No. 18.)
258 16TH MARCH. 1910.
Report upon the Hospitals for the Insane for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 21.)
Reports on the Hospitals for Idiots, Orillia, and the Hospital for Epilep-
tics, Woodstock, for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers, No. 22.)
Report on the Feeble Minded in Ontario for the year 1909. (Sessiona}
Papers, No. 23.)
Report upon the Hospitals and Charities, &c., for the year 1909. (Ses-
sional Papers, No. 24.)
Report upon the Common Gaols for the year 1909. (Sessional Papers,
No. 25.)
Report on the Neglected and Dependent Children of Ontario for the year
190.9. (Sessional Papers, No. 26.)
Report on the operation of the Liquor License Acts in Ontario for the year
190.9. (Sessional Papers, No. 27.)
Report of the Department of Agriculture for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 28.)
Report of the Ontario Agriculture College and Experimental Farm for
the year 1909. (Sessional Papers, No. 29.)
Report of the Ontario Veterinary College for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 30.)
Report of the Ontario Agricultural and Experimental Union, for the year
1909. (Sessional Papers, No. 31.)
•
Report of the Fruit Growers' Association, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 32.)
Report of the Fruit Branch of the Department of Agriculture, for the
year 190.9. (Sessional Papers, No. 33.)
Report of the Ontario Vegetable Growers' Association, for the year 1909.
(Sessional Papers, No. 34.)
Report of the Ontario Corn Growers' Association, for the year 1909.
(Sessional Papers', No. 35.)
Report of the Entomological Society, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 36.)
Edw. VII. 16TH MARCH. 259
Report of the Bee-Keepers' Association, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 37.)
Reports of the Dairymen's Associations, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 38.)
Report of the Horticultural Societies, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 44.)
Report of the Bureau of Industries, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 45.)
Report of the Inspectors of Factories, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 46.)
Report of the Provincial Archivist, for the year 190.9. (Sessional Papers,
No. 51.)
Report of Infant Mortality. (Sessional Papers, No. 66.)
Report of the Bureau of Colonization, for the year 1909. (Sessional
Papers, No. 74.)
The Committee recommend that the following Documents be not printed:
Return re Gillies Limit. (Sessional Papers, No. 48.)
Return re Teachers granted Normal and Model School Certificates. (Ses-
sional Papers, No. 67.)
Reports 011 the recent fire at Parliament Buildings. (Sessional Papers,
No. 68.)
Return re settlement of disputes between Hydro-Electric Power Commis-
sion and Land Owners. (Sessional Papers, No. 69.)
Return re Colonization Roads. (Sessional Papers, No. 70.)
Return re Money loaned to Municipalities for Drainage purposes. (Ses-
sional Papers, No. 71.)
Return re Permits and extensions granted Public School Teachers. (Ses-
sional 'Papers, No. 72.)
Return re Canadian Northern Railway. (Sessional Papers, No. 73.)
16TH MARCH. 1910.
Keturn re Commission for the Kevision of the Statutes. (Sessional
Papers, No. 75.)
Return re resignation of and moneys collected by late Game Warden
Hand. (Sessional Papers, No. 76.)
Return re permission to take action where a Fiat was necessary. (Ses-
sional Papers, No. 77.)
The Committee recommend that Four thousand copies of the Report of
the Bureau of Mines he printed.
The Committee recommend that One Hundred and fifteen copies of E.
King Dodds' "Canadian Reminiscences" be purchased for distribution to
Members of the Legislature.
Resolved, That this House doth concur in the Second Report of the
Standing Committee on Printing.
On motion of Sir James Whitney, seconded by Mr. Matheson,
Resolved, That when this House adjourns To-day, it do stand adjourned
until Eleven of the Clock in the forenoon of Thursday, the Seventeenth day of
March, instant.
Mr. Hanna presented to the House,
A Return to an Order of the House of the Twenty-fifth of February, 1910,
for a Return shewing: — 1. How many Emigrants the Salvation Army brought
out from Great Britain and Ireland during the season 1909. 2. How many
were male and how many female. 3. How many were placed in the homes of
the farmers of the Province of Ontario. 4. The names and addresses of the
farmers. Also shewing: — 1. How many Emigrants the Government of this
Province brought out from Great Britain and Ireland during the season of
1909. 2. How many were male and how many female. 3. How many were
placed in the homes of the farmers of the Province of Ontario. 4. The names
and addresses of the farmers. (Sessional Papers, No. 78.)
The House then adjourned at 6.30 P.M.
Edw. VII. 17TH MARCH. 261
- Thursday, 17th March, 1910.
PRAYERS. 11 O'CLOCK, A.M.
The House resolved itself into a Committee to consider Bill (No. 162),
The Statute Law Amendment Act, 1910, and after some time spent therein,
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. McGarry reported, That the Com-
mittee had directed him to report the Bill with certain amendments.
Ordered, That the Amendments be taken into consideration forthwith.
The Amendments, having been read the second time, were agreed to.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
Mr. Studholme moved,
That Bill (ATo. 61), The Fair Wages and Hours of Labour Kegulation
Act, 1910, be now read the second time.
Sir James Whitney moved in Amendment, seconded by Mr. Matheson,
That all the words in the Motion, after the first word "That" be omitted
and that there be substituted therefor the following : "a Committee for the House
of Commons of Canada to which has been referred a Bill dealing with the
question of the hours of labour on Public Works has engaged one of the Pro-
fessors of Queen's University as a Specialist to collect information, interpret
decisions gained elsewhere and assist such Committee in its researches respect-
ing the hours of labour, preparatory to its making a Eeport. That it is desirable
before considering the provisions of the Bill, now before this House, to consult
the Report of the Committee of the House of Commons and the information
and opinions gained and submitted by the said Specialist, and this House there-
fore orders that the said Bill be not now read the second time, but be read a
second time this day six months."
Mr. MacKay (Grey), moved in amendment to the Amendment, seconded
by Mr. McDougal,
That all the words of the Amendment after the word "That," where it
first occurs, be struck out and following substituted: "a Commission be
appointed to enquire into the Status of Labour in the Province of Ontario and
report as to what Legislation can be introduced to ameliorate the condition cf
the Wage-earners."
262
17TH MARCH.
1910.
And the amendment to the Amendment, having been submitted to the
House, was declared to be lost upon the following division:
YEAS.
Bowman
Elliott
Fripp
Kohler
(Northum-
berland)
Messieurs :
McCart
McCormick
McDougal
McEwing
MacKay (Grey)
Mackay (Oxford)
May berry
Proudfoot
Racine
Reed (Wentworth)
NAYS.
Messieurs :
Reid (Renfrew)
Stock
Studholme
Truax— 19
Anderson
Beck
Bowyer
Brewster
Brower
Calder
Charters
Clark (Bruce)
Cochrane
Dargavel
Duff
Eilber
FergUSOn (Simcoe)
FergUSOn (Grenville
Fisher
Fraser
Galna
Grigg
Hanna
Hearst
Hendrie
Hoyle
Lennox
Lucas
McCowan
McGarry
McKeown
McNaught
McPherson
Macdiarmid
Mason
Matheson
Musgrove
Neely
Nickle
Norman
Pattinson
Pharand
Preston (Durham)
Preston (Lanark)
Reaume
Richardson
Shaw
Shillington
Smellie
Whitesides
Whitney
Wilson — 48
PAIRS.
Machin Tudhope.
The Amendment, having been then put, was carried on the following
division :
Anderson
Beck
Bowyer
Brewster
Brower
Calder
Charters
YEAS.
Messieurs :
Clark (Bruce) Fisher
Cochrane Fraser
Dargavel Galna
Duff Grigg
Eilber Hanna
Ferguson (simcoe) Hearst
Ferguson (Gren vine) Hendrie
Hoyle •
Lennox
Lucas
McCowan
McGarry
McKeown
McNaught
Edw. VII.
17TH MARCH.
263
McPherson
Neely
Preston (Durham)
Shillington
Macdiarmid
fickle
Preston (Lanark)
Smellie
Mason
Norman
Reaume
Whitesides
Matheson
Pattinson
Richardson
Whitney
Musgrove
Pharand
Shaw
Wilson — 48
NAYS.
Messieurs :
Bowman
McCart
Mackay (Oxford)
Reid (Renfrew)
Plarlro (Northum-
berland)
McCormick
Mayberry
Stock
Elliott
McDougal
Proudfoot
Studholme
Fripp
McEwing
Racine
Truax— 19
Kohler
MacKay (Grey) Reed(Wentworth)
PAIRS.
Machin .
. TudhoDe.
The Main Motion, as amended, having been then put, was carried on the
following division:
YEAS.
Messieurs :
Anderson
Ferguson (simcoe)
McCowan
Beck
Bowyer
Brewster
Brower
FergUSOn (Grenville)
Fisher
Fraser
Galna
McGarry
McKeown
McNaught
McPherson
Calder
Charters
Grigg
Hanna
Macdiarmid
Mason
Clark (Bruce)
Hearst
Matheson
Cochrane
Dargavel
Duff
Hendrie
Hoyle
Lennox
Musgrove
Neely
Nickle
Eilber
Lucas
Norman
Pattinson
Pharand
Preston (Durham)
Preston (Lanark)
Reaume
Richardson
Shaw
Shillington
Smellie
Whitesides
Whitney
Wilson— 48
Bowman
Elliott
Fripp
Kohler
NAYS.
Messieurs :
McCart
McCormick
McDougal
McEwing
(Grey)
Mackay (Oxford)
Mayberry
Proudfoot
Racine
Reed (Wentworth)
Reid (Renfrew)
Stock
Studholme
Truax— 19
264 17TH MARCH. 1910.
PAIRS.
Machin < Tudhope.
And it was
Resolved, That a Committee for the House of Commons for Canada to
which has been referred a Bill dealing with the question of the hours of labour
on public works has engaged one of the professors of Queen's University as a
specialist to collect' information, interpret decisions gained elsewhere and
assist such Committee in its researches respecting the hours of labour prepara-
tory to its making a report ; that it is desirable before considering the provisions
of the Bill now before this House to consult the report of the Committee of the
House of Commons, and the information and opinions gained and submitted
by the said specialist, and this House therefore orders that the said Bill be not
now read a second time, but be read a second time this day six months.
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time : —
Bill (No. 234), intituled " An Act for granting to His Majesty certain sums
•of money to defray the expenses of Civil Government for the ten months ending
31st October, One thousand nine hundred and ten, and for the year ending 31st
•day of October, One thousand nine hundred and eleven, and for other purposes
therein mentioned." Mr. Matheson.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the second time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the second time.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time forthwith.
The Bill was then read the third time, and passed.
On Motion of Mr. Matheson, seconded by Mr. Eeaume,
Ordered, That the full Sessional Indemnity be paid to each Member of this
House for the present Session.
Mr. Ferguson (Grenville), from the Standing Committee on Public Ac-
counts, presented their Report, which was read. (Appendix No. 1.)
Edw. VII. 17TH AND 19TH MARCH. 265
On Motion of Sir James Whitney, seconded by Mr. Matheson,
Resolved, That when this House adjourns To-day, it do stand adjourned
until Eleven of the Clock, in the forenoon, of Saturday the Nineteenth day of
March, instant.
The House then adjourned at 5.15 P.M.
Saturday, 19th March, 1910.
11 O'CLOCK, A.M.
His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor proceeded in State to the Chamber
of the Legislative Assembly and took his seat upon the Throne.
The Clerk Assistant then read the Titles of the Acts which had passed,
severally as follows: —
10 Edw. VII.,
Chap.
1. An Act for granting to His Majesty certain sums of money for the
public service of the financial year ending on the 31st day of October, 1910,
and for the public service of the financial year ending the 31st day of October,
1911.
2. An Act respecting the Territorial Division of Ontario for municipal
and judicial purposes.
3. An Act respecting the Lieutenant- Governor and his Deputies.
4. An Act respecting the Executive Council.
5. An Act respecting the fees of certain Public Officers.
6. An Act to amend the Succession Duty Act.
(N.B. — The Acts, the titles of which are printed in Italics, received the
Royal Assent on the 7th day of March, 1910. They are inserted here in order
that the above list may show all the Acts passed at the present Session, chap-
tered as they will appear in the Annual Volume of Statutes.)
266 19TH MARCH. 1910.
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Chap.
7. An Act to amend the Act respecting the Government House property.
8. An Act to establish Forest Reserves.
9. An Act respecting Town Sites.
10. An Act respecting the Clergy Reserves and the Upper Canada
Grammar School Lands.
11. An Act respecting the Public Works of Ontario.
12. An Act respecting Riots near Public Works.
13. 'An Act respecting the Bureau of Labour.
14. An Act to amend the Act for the Improvement of Public Highways.
15. An Act to amend the Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Railway
Act.
16. An Act respecting the Hydro-Electric Power Commission of Ontario.
17. An Act respecting the Department of Agriculture.
18. An Act respecting Agricultural Associations.
19. An Act respecting Agricultural Societies.
20. An Act respecting Horticultural Societies.
21. An Act respecting the Queen Victoria Niagara Falls Park.
22. An Act to establish the Algonquin National Park of Ontario.
23. An Act to establish a Provincial Park at Rondeau.
24. An Act respecting Appeals to His Majesty in His Privy Council.
25. An Act respecting the Supreme Court of Canada and the Exchequer
Court of Canada.
26. The Statute Law Amendment Act, 1910.
27. An Act to amend the Judicature Act.
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10 Edw. VII.,
Chap.
28.- An Act to amend the Judicature Act.
29. An Act respecting the Judges of the Supreme Court of Judicature
for Ontario.
30. An Act respecting the County Courts and District Courts.
31. An Act respecting the Surrogate Courts.
32. An Act respecting the Division Courts.
33. An Act respecting Disputes concerning Boundary Lines.
34. An Act respecting the Limitation of Actions.
35. An Act respecting Justices of the Peace.
36. An Act respecting Police Magistrates.
37. An Act respecting procedure before Justices of the Peace and Sum-
mary Convictions.
38. An Act respecting Commissioners of Police appointed by the Govern-
ment of Canada.
39. An Act respecting Constables.
40. An Act to authorize Police Constables to take bail.
41. An Act respecting the expenses of the administration of justice.
42. An Act to provide for payment of witnesses for the Crown.
43. An Act respecting Estreats.
44. An Act to provide for the better government of that part of Ontario
situated in the vicinity of the Falls of Niagara.
45. An Act respecting the application of the Law of England in certain
matters.
46. An Act to restrain the accumulation of the profits or produce of Real
or Personal Estate.
47. An Act respecting Powers of Attorney.
268 19TH MARCH. 1910.
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Chap.
48. An Act respecting the right of property in Swarms of Bees.
49. An Act respecting the rights of aliens in relation to real property.
50. An Act respecting Petty Trespass.
51. An Act respecting Mortgages of Real Estate.
52. An Act respecting the Assurance of Estates Tail.
53. An Act respecting Short Forms of Conveyances.
54. An Act respecting Short Forms of Leases
55. An Act respecting Short Forms of Mortgages.
56. An Act respecting the Devolution and Distribution of Estates.
57. An Act respecting Wills.
58. An Act respecting Vendors and Purchasers and to simplify Titles.
59. An Act for Quieting Titles to Real Estate.
60. An Act respecting the Registration of Instruments relating to Lands.
61. An Act to amend the Land Titles Act.
62. An Act respecting the legal meaning of expressions relative to Time.
63. An Act to amend the Mercantile Law.
64. An Act respecting Assignments and Preferences by Insolvent Persons.
65. An Act respecting Mortgages and Sales of Personal Property.
66. An Act respecting Contracts in relation to Goods in the possession of
agents and others.
67. An Act respecting Limited Partnerships.
68. An Act respecting the registration of Partnership.
6.9. An Act respecting liens of Mechanics, Wage Earners and others.
Edw. VII. 19TH MARCH. 269
10 Edw. VII.,
Chap.
70. The Woodman's Lien for Wages Act.
71. An Act to secure payment of wages for labour performed in the con-
struction of Works.
72. An Act respecting Wages.
73. An Act respecting Master and Servant.
74. An Act respecting Councils of Conciliation and Arbitration for
settling Industrial Disputes.
75. An Act to amend the Landlord and Tenants Act.
76. An Act to amend the Act respecting the Law Society of Upper
Canada.
77. The Ontario Medical Amendment Act, 1910.
78. An Act to further amend the Pharmacy Act.
79. An Act to revise and amend the Chartered Accountants Act.
80. An Act to amend the Ontario Companies Act.
81. An Act to amend the Ontario Kailway Act, 1906.
82. An Act to amend the Ontario Kailway and Municipal Board Act,
1906.
83. An Act to amend the Ontario Kailway and Municipal Board Act,
1906.
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84. The Ontario Telephone Act.
85. The Municipal Amendment Act, 1910.
86. An Act to amend the Ontario Municipal Securities Act.
87. An Act to amend the Act respecting certain Municipal By-laws 'and
Agreements.
88. An Act to amend the Assessment Act.
>
89. An Act to amend the Act respecting Statute Labour.
270 19TH MARCH. 1910.
10 Edw. VII.,
Chap.
90. An Act to revise and consolidate the Municipal Drainage Laws.
91. An Act to amend the Municipal Light and Heat Act.
92. An Act to amend the Local Municipal Telephone Act, 1908.
93. An Act to amend the Municipal Water Works Act.
94. An Act to amend the Liquor License Act.
,95. An Act respecting the Manufacture and Sale of Bread.
96. An Act respecting Juvenile Courts.
97. An Act to amend the Act for the protection of Sheep and to impose
a Tax on Dogs.
98. An Act respecting Steam Boilers.
99. An Act to prevent the spread of insect and fungous diseases injurious
to Vegetation.
100. An Act to amend the Ditches and Watercourses Act.
101. An Act to amend the Ontario Game and Fisheries Act.
102. An Act to amend the Department of Education Act.
103. An Act respecting certain Public School matters in the City of
Toronto.
104. An Act to amend the High Schools Act.
105. An Act Respecting Industrial Schools.
106. An Act to amend the Act respecting the Property of Religious Insti-
tutions.
107. An Act respecting the Town of Barrie.
108. An Act respecting By-law No. 663 of the Town of Barrie.
109. An Act respecting the Town of Brampton.
110. An Act respecting the John H. Stratford Hospital, and to confirm
certain By-laws of the City of Brantford.
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10 Edw. VII.,
Chap.
111. An Act to confirm By-law No. 502 of the Town of Campbellford.
112. Afn Act to confirm an Agreement between the Town of Cobalt and
the Township of Coleman.
113. An Act to ratify By-law No. 568 of the Town, of Durham.
114. An Act respecting the City of Fort William.
115. An Act respecting the City of Guelph.
116. An Act respecting the City of Hamilton.
117. An Act respecting the Town of Kenora.
118. An Act respecting the City of London.
119. An Act to confirm By-law No. 818 of the Town of Napanee.
120. An Act respecting the Town of Niagara.
121. An Act respecting the City of Ottawa.
122. An Act respecting th,e Town of Penetanguishene.
123. An Act respecting the City of Peterborough.
124. An Act respecting the City of Port Arthur.
125. An Act respecting the Town of Port Hope.
126. An Act to confirm By-law No. 2106 of the City of St. Catharines
and the Agreement thereunto annexed.
127. An Act to confirm By-law No. 2116 of the City of St. Catharines.
128. An Act to confirm By-law No. 2126 of the City of St. Catharines
and the agreement therein mentioned.
129. An Act respecting the Municipality of Shuniah.
130. An Act to confirm certain By-laws and an Agreement between
the Townships of Southwold and Yarmouth.
272 i9iH MARCH.
1910.
10 Edw. VII.,
Chap.
131. An Act to confirm an Agreement between the City of Stratford and
the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada.
132. An Act respecting the Township of Tay.
133. An Act to confirm an Agreement between the Township of Tay and
the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada.
134. An Act to confirm By-law No. 9, of 1909, of the Town of Thorn-
bury.
135. An Act respecting the City of Toronto.
136. An Act respecting the City of Windsor.
137. An Act to amend an Act respecting the Township of York.
138. An Act to amend the Acts incorporating the Buffalo and Fort Erie
Ferry and Railway Company.
13.9. An Act to amend the Act respecting the Bruce Mines and Algoma
Railway Company.
140. An Act respecting the Dunnville, Wellandport and Beamsville Elec-
tric Railway.
141. An Act to incorporate the Hurontario Railway Company.
142. An Act respecting the Iron Range Railway Company.
143. An Act respecting the Lac Seul, Rat Portage and Keewatin Rail-
way Company.
144. An Act to incorporate the Monarch Railway Company.
145. An Act respecting the Morrisburg Electric Railway.
146. An Act to incorporate the Niagara Falls, Welland and Dunnville
Electric Railway Company.
147. An Act to incorporate the Nickel Range Railway Company.
148. An Act respecting the North Midland Railway Company.
149. An Act respecting the People's Railway Company.
Edw. VII. 19TH MARCH. 273
10 Edw. VII. ,
Chap.
150. An Act respecting the St. Thomas Street Railway.
151. An Act respecting the Simcoe Railway and Power Company.
152. An Act to incorporate Toronto, Haliburton and Pembroke Railway
Company.
153. An Act respecting the Toronto Suburban Eailway Company.
154. An Act to incorporate the Wahnapitae Railway Company.
155. An Act respecting the Western Central Railway Company.
156. An Act respecting the Cobalt Lake Mining Company, Limited.
157. An Act respecting levying and collecting tolls on the Mississippi
River.
158. An Act respecting the Monarch Fire Insurance Company, Cash,
Mutual and Stock.
159. An Act respecting the St. Thomas Cemetery Company.
160. An Act respecting the Trustees of the Toronto General Burying
Grounds.
161. An Act to incorporate the Hamilton School of Anatomy.
162. An Act respecting the Oshawa Young Men's Christian Association.
163. An Act to amend the Act to incorporate the Ottawa Young Men's
Christian Association.
164. An Act to incorporate the Port Arthur Young Men's Christian
Association.
165. An Act respecting the Young Men's Christian Association of Wood-
stock, Ontario.
166. An Act to authorize Lester McDonell Coulter to practise medicine
in the Province of Ontario.
167. An Act respecting the Estate of Blanche Eleanor Leslie.
168. An Act respecting the Estate of Charles Northcote.
274 19TH MARCH. 1910.
To these Acts the Royal Assent was announced by the Clerk of the Legis-
lative Assembly in the following words : —
"In His Majesty's name, His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor doth assent
to these Acts."
Mr. Speaker then said:
May it please Your Honour:
We, His Majesty's most dutiful and faithful subjects, the Legislative
Assembly of the Province of Ontario, in Session assembled, approach your
Honour at the close of our labours with sentiments of unfeigned devotion and
loyalty to His Majesty's person and. Government, and humbly beg to present
for Your Honour's acceptance a Bill intituled "An Act for granting to Hia
Majesty certain sums of money for the Public Service of the financial year
ending on the 31st day of October, 1910, and for the Public Service of the
financial year ending the 31st day of October, 1911," and for other purposes
therein mentioned.
To this Act the Royal Assent was announced by the Clerk of the Legis-
lative Assembly, in the following words:
"His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor doth thank His Majesty's dutiful
and loyal subjects, accept their benevolence and assent to this Act in His
Majesty's name."
His Honour was then pleased to deliver the following Speech: —
Mr. Speaker and Gentlemen of the Legislative Assembly:
I desire, in relieving you of your legislative duties, to express my ap-
preciation of the careful consideration you have given to the various measures
that have come before you during the present Session. Your labours have been
of comparatively short duration, owing to the business-like methods pursued
and the avoidance of unnecessary delays rather than to any diminution of
public demands upon your attention. Much of the Legislation you have had
to consider has been in connection with the consolidation and revision of the
Statute Law of Ontario now approaching completion, while several import-
ant enactments have been suggested by experience and the desire to meet the
growing needs of this Province.
Edw. VII. 19TH MARCH. 275
I am pleased to note that you have provided for the further extension of
the principle of agricultural instruction in local centres, thus giving the farmer
the benefits of technical education in his own neighbourhood, and that the
public grants to improve this basic industry have been increased. The pro-
vision you have made to encourage the immigration of farm labour and do-
mestic help cannot fail to be appreciated by the people of this Province. Both
the comfort and the business interests of the agriculturist will doubtless be
promoted by the enactments you have made to facilitate the operation and
extension of the rural telephone systems.
As an initial result of the investigation of the Milk Commission a meas-
ure has been enacted to provide for the extension -of the powers of cities and
towns for the supervision of their milk supply, thus providing an additional
safeguard to public health in this important respect.
The recommendations of the Assessment Commission have been embodied
in a measure which brings into force various suggestions that have been before
the public for some time past regarding the Assessment Laws.
An evidence of the increased usefulness of the Railway and Municipal
Board is found in the enlarged powers that have been conferred upon it with
reference to the operation of Street Railways and supervising the conditions
under which Telephone Companies created by the Provincial authority may
carry on their business.
Further legislation to facilitate the work of the Hydro-Electric Commis-
sion has been enacted in order to give reasonnble protection to life and pro-
perty.
In view of rapid development in Northern Ontario power has been given
to the Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Railway Commission providing
for the construction of a branch extension of that Railway shou Id the same
on further experience and investigation be considered necessary in the public
interest.
I am glad to notice that the Liquor License Law has been amended by
providing that hereafter no intoxicating liquor shall be sold in this Province
on Christmas day, thus promoting the sanctity and sobriety of this great festi-
val.
By virtue of the Act respecting Town Sites the principle has been adopted
that whenever land hereafter sold by the Crown is set aside for town sites one-
quarter of it shall revert to the Crown.
Among the Bills that have be,en adopted are measures respecting the Ex-
ecutive Council; respecting Government House property; respecting Juvenile
Courts; and to amend the Succession Duty Act.
276 19TH MAKCH. 1910
I desire to congratulate you upon the continuous increase in the financial
resources of the Province which enables my Ministers to improve the public
service and to undertake various projects for the development of th,e Province.
I have to thank you for the adequate appropriations you have made for
the public administration, which will be expanded with a due regard to effi-
ciency an economy.
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In dismissing you from your duties, I desire to express my thanks for
the services you have rendered to the public, and to unite with you in the hope
that the blessing of Almighty God will continue to rest upon our country and
our people.
Mr. Lucas then said :
Mr. Speaker and Gentlemen of the Legislative Assembly: —
"It is His Honour's will and pleasure that this Legislative Assembly be
prorogued and this Legislative Assembly is accordingly prorogued."
Appendix No. 1.
REPORT
OF THE
Committee on Public Accounts
1910
APPENDIX Xo. 1.
REPORT
OF THE
Standing Committee on Public
Accounts, 1910
To the Honourable the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario.
The Standing Committee on Public Accounts begs leave to present the
following as its
REPOBT.
Your Committee has had produced before it the following accounts,
vouchers and particulars in connection with the Public Accounts of the
Province for the year 1909, which it has carefully examined and considered.
All particulars re " Wages/' Charlton and Gowganda Colonization Road,
$20,648.55, page 385 of the Public Accounts.
All papers and particulars connected with the items " Mining,"
$235,098.04, page A18 of the Public Accounts; and "Provincial Mines,"
$115,411.71, page A18 of the Public Accounts.
All papers and particulars in connection with expenditures by the Hydro-
El ectric Power Commission as follows :
" Legal Expenses/7 $7,395.00, page 444 of the Public Accounts.
"Proportion General Expenses/' $7,188.30, page 444 of the Public
Accounts.
"Legal Expenses/' $3,000.00, page 445 of the Public Accounts.
"Payment Sundry Fees, etc., Out-of-Town Solicitors," $2,333.61, page
445 of the Public Accounts.
" Sundry fees charged by A. F. Lobb," $7,745.00, page 445 of the Pub-
lic Accounts.
"Automobiles," $15,176.61, page 445 of the Public Accounts.
" Sundry advances to be accounted for," $5,550.00, page 445 of the
Public Accounts.
All particulars in connection with the following items under heading
" Crown Lands " — Explorations and investigations.
E. P. Corkill, travelling expenses, $1,110.80, page 415 of the Public
Accounts.
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APPENDIX No. 1. 1910
G. R Mickle, travelling expenses, $805.50, page 416 of the Public
Accounts.
All particulars in connection with the following item under heading
" Crown Lands " — Diamond Drills.
Silver Bar Mine — Board of men, etc., $855.45, page 415 of the Public
Accounts.
All particulars in connection with the following item under heading
" Provincial Secretary's Department" — Contingencies.
Dorrien Plating Mills Co., Auto tags, $4,404.00, page 18 of the Public
Accounts.
All vouchers and particulars in connection with the visit of P. W,.
Sothmann and assistant, to England and Europe in connection with the Hydro-
Electric Power Commission.
Records of permits granted P. W. Sothmann, John F. Beck, and officials
of the Hydro-Electric Power Commission for the running of automobiles.
Messrs. H. D. Gillard, W. W. Pope, T. W. Gibson, Hon. A. Beck, A. J.
Young, W. S. Smith, W. C. Grant, P. W. Sothmann, S. A. Armstrong and
S. D. Madden were examined.
Your Committee has held ten meetings during the present Session and
submits herewith the Minutes of the proceedings and the evidence given, as
taken by stenographers.
All of which is respectfully submitted.
G. HOWARD FERGUSON,
Chairman.
Committee Eooms,
March 15th, 1910.
MINUTES AND PROCEEDINGS.
Public Accounts Committee Room,
Legislative Assembly,
Toronto, February 22, 1910.
The Select Standing Committee to whom was referred the examination
of the Public Accounts of the Province, for the year 1909, and composed of
the following members: — Sir James Whitney and Messieurs Bowman, Beck,
Clark (Bruce), Clarke (Northumberland), Cochrane, Craig, Dargavel, Doyle,
Eilber, Elliott, Ferguson (Grenville), Fox, Fraser, Fripp, Gamey, Hanna,
Ilendrie, Johnson, MacKay (Grey), Mahaffy, Matheson, Musgrove, McCart,
McDougal, McElroy, McEwing, McGarry, McKeown, Nickle, Pattmson,'
Preston (Lanark), Preston (Rainy River), Proudfoot, Racine, Reaume,
Shillington, Thompson (Simcoe), and Tudhope, met this day at 11.30 A.M.
for organization.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1.
Present: — Messieurs Dargavel, Ferguson (Grenville), Fox, Fraser,
Hanna, Johnson, Matheson, Musgrove, McElroy, Nickle, Preston (Lanark),
Preston (Rainy River.)
On motion of Mr. Matheson, seconded by Mr. Musgrove, it was
Resolved, That Mr. Ferguson (Grenville), be elected Chairman for the
Session.
The meeting then adjourned to meet again on Wednesday, February 23rd,
at 11.30 A.M.
COMMITTEE ROOM,
Wednesday, 23rd February, 1910.
Committee met pursuant to adjournment at 11.30 A.M.
Present: — Messieurs Ferguson (Grenville), Chairman; Clarke (North-
umberland), Craig, Dargavel, Eilber, Fox, Fripp, Johnson, Matheson, McCart,
McDougal, McElroy, McEwing, Preston (Lanark), Preston (Rainy River),
Thompson (Simcoe.)
Mr. H. D. Gillard, Crown Lands Department, was sent for and examined
as to payments to and nature of services rendered by Fire Rangers, pages
402-411 inclusive of the Public Accounts.
On motion of Mr. McCart, seconded by Mr. Elliott,
Ordered, That all particulars of item " Wages," $20,648.55, be produced
before this Committee. Page 385 of the Public Accounts.
On motion of Mr. McDougal, seconded by Mr. Clarke,
Ordered, That all papers and particulars relating to items Provincial
Mines $115,411. 71, and Mining $235.098.04, be produced before this Com-
mittee, page A18 of the Public Accounts, and that Mr. T. W. Gibson, Deputy
Minister of Mines, be summoned to testify.
On motion of Mr. Elliott, seconded by Mr. Clarke,
Ordered, That all particulars connected with the following expenditures
by the Hydro-Electric Power Commission be produced before this Committee:
" Legal Expenses," $7,395.00, page 444 of the Public Accounts.
APPENDIX No. 1. 1910
: Legal Expenses/' $3,000.00, page 445 of the Public Accounts.
" Fees .to Out-of-Town Solicitors," $2,333.61, page 445 of the Public
Accounts.
Sundry fees charged by A. F. Lobb, $7,745.00, page 445 of the Public
Accounts.
"Proportion General Expenses," $7,188.30, page 444 of the Public
Accounts.
"Automobiles," $15,176.61, page 445 of the Public Accounts.
" Sundry advances to be accounted for," $5,550.00, page 445 of the Public
Accounts.
And that Mr. W. W. Pope, Secretary to the Hydro-Electric Power Com-
mission, be summoned to attend before the Committee at its next meeting and
explain said accounts.
The Committee then 'adjourned to meet on Thursday, February 24lh, at
11 A.M.
COMMITTEE ROOM,
Thursday, February 24th, 1910.
Committee met pursuant to adjournment at 11 A.M.
Present: — Messieurs Ferguson (Grenville), Chairman; Eilber, Elliott,
Fripp, Johnson, Mahaffy, Matheson, McCart, McDougal, McElroy, McEwing,
fickle, Pattinson, Preston (Lanark), Proudfoot, Racine.
Mr. T. W. Gibson attended and was examined.
Mr. W. W. Pope attended and was examined.
Ordered, That the Hon. Adam Beck be summoned to attend at next meet-
ing, and that Mr. T. W. Gibson and'W. W. Pope re-attend.
The Committee then adjourned to meet on Wednesday, March 2nd at
11.30 A.M.
COMMITTEE ROOM,
Wednesday, March 2nd, 1910.
Committee met pursuant to adjournment at 11.30 A.M.
Present: — Messieurs Ferguson (Grenville), Chairman; Beck, Clark
(Bruce), Clarke (Northumberland), Elliott, Johnson, Matheson, Musgrove,
McCart, McDougal, McEwing, McGarry, McKeown.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1.
Hon. Adam Beck examined.
Mr. T. W. Gibson re-examined.
Mr. W. W. Pope re-examined.
Ordered, That Mr. A. J. Young, of North Bay, be summoned to appear at
jiex't meeting of the Committee.
Ordered, That a representative of the Automobile and Supply Company,
Limited, connected with the sale of automobiles to the Hydro-Electric Power
'Commission, be summoned to "attend at next meeting of the Committee.
The Committee then adjourned to meet on Thursday, March 3rd, at
12 m.
COMMITTEE ROOM,
Thursday, March 3rd, 1910.
Committee met pursuant to adjournment at 12 M.
Present: — Messieurs Ferguson (Grenville), Chairman; Clark (Bruce),
iDargavel, Eilber, Elliott, Fox, Eraser, Matheson, Musgrove, McCart, Me-
Dougal, McElroy, McEwing, McGarry, Mckle, Pattinson, Racine, Shillington.
Telegram from A. J. Young (North Bay), read, stating that he could not
'attend at meeting of Committee until Tuesday, March 8th.
Ordered , That he be re-summoned to attend on that date.
W. S. Smith, of the Automobile and Supply Co., attended and was sworn
and examined.
Objected to answering several questions put without the consent of his
'employers.
Was sustained in this contention by the Chairman.
APPENDIX No. 1. 10 10
Show of hands demanded. .
Chair sustained by 12 to 5.
Ordered, That W. S. Smith re-attend at next meeting of Committee.
On motion of Mr. McDougal, seconded by Mr. Elliott,
Ordered, That Mr. W. C. Grant, manager of the Automobile and Supply
Company, Limited, be summoned to appear before the Committee at its next
meeting and to produce the books of the company showing all the entries re-
lating to the purchase, repair and sale of all automobiles sold to the Hydro-
Electric Power Commission or any member or official thereof and all informa-
tion relating thereto.
Committee then adjourned to meet on Friday, March 4th, at 11 A.M.
COMMITTEE ROOM.
Friday, March 4th, 1910.
Committee met pursuant to adjournment at 11 A.M.
Present-. — Messieurs Ferguson (Grenville), Chairman; Beck, Clark
(Bruce), Clarke (Northumberland), Craig, Eilber, Elliott, Fraser, Fripp,
Johnson, Matheson, Musgrove, McCart, McDougal, McEwing, McGarry,
Nickle, Pattinson, Preston (Lanark), Preston (Rainy River), Racine,
Reaume.
Chairman, referring to his ruling at last meeting, sustaining witness in
•his refusal to answer certain questions without the consent of his employers,
quoted as a precedent a ruling to the same effect in the Journals of the House
for 1903.
Mr. W. S. Smith attended for re-examination and W. C. Grant, manager
of the Automobile and Supply Company, Limited, attended for examination.
Mr. W. C. Grant was sworn and examined.
Mr. W. S. Smith was again examined.
Messrs. P. W. Sothmann and F. A. Gaby, engineers in the employ of the
Hydro-Electric Power Company, were sent for.
Mr. P. W. Sothmann was sworn and examined.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1.
Ordered, That Messrs Sothmann and Gaby re-attend at next meeting of
Jt'he Committee for examination.
On motion of Mr. Elliott, seconded by Mr. McDougal.
Ordered, That Mr. Armstrong or Mr. Johns of the Provincial Secretary's
Department, be summoned to attend at next meeting of the Committee and
produce records of all permits given to P. W. Sothmann, John F. Beck and
jthe Hydro-Electric Power Commission.
Committee adjourned to meet on Tuesday, March 8th, at 11.30 A.M.
COMMITTEE ROOM.
Tuesday, March 8th, 1910.
Committee met pursuant to adjournment at 11.30 A.M.
Present: — Messieurs Ferguson (Grenville), Chairman; Beck, Clark
(Bruce), Clarke (Northumberland) Eilber, Elliott, Fox, Fraser, Johnson,
Matheson, Musgrove, McElroy, McEwing, McGarry, Pattinson, Proudfoot,
Reaume, Shillington.
Messrs. S. A. Armstrong, A. J. Young (North Bay), F. A. Gaby and
P. W. Sothmann attended for examination.
Mr. McGarry read a synopsis of Mr. Sothmann' s evidence which he pro-
nounced correct.
Mr. A. J. Young was sworn and examined.
Mr. S. !A. Armstrong was sworn and examined.
Mr. P. W. Sothmann produced all papers having reference to the purchase
and repair of automobiles under discussion at the last meeting. Copy of his
recommendation to the Hydro-Electric Power Commission re the purchase
of automobiles and vouchers for the expensess of himself and assistant, Mr.
Mansfeldt, when in England and Europe together, in the interests of the said
Commission.
Mr. P. W. Sothmann was then re-examined.
Mr. F. A. Gaby was excused from examination.
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COMMITTEE EOOM.
Thursday, March 10th, 1910.
Committee met pursuant to adjournment at 11.30 A.M.
Present: — Ferguson (Grenville) Chairman; Bowman, Clark (Bruce),
Clarke '(Northumberland), Dargavel, Doyle, Eilber, Elliott, Matheson, Mc-
Cart, McEwing, McGarry, Pattinson, Preston (Lanark), Preston (Rainy
(River), Proudfoot, Racine, Reaume.
Mr. T. W. Gibson, Deputy Minister of Mines, was sent for and examined.
On motion of Mr. Clarke (Northumberland), seconded by Mr. Elliott.
Ordered, That Mr. S. D. Madden and Geo. E. Martell, residence given
as Cobalt, be summoned by telegraph to appear at next meeting of the Com-
mittee and be examined as to sales of portions of the Gillies Limit and that
all vouchers and papers connected with the following items be produced.
Item $1,110.80, travelling expenses, E. T. Corkill, page 415 of the
Public Accounts.
Item $805.50, travelling expenses, G. R. Nickle, page 416 of the Public
Accounts.
Item $4,404.40, Dorrien Plating Co., Auto tags, page 18 of the Public
'Accounts.
Item 855.45, Silver Bar Mine, Board of Men, etc., page 415 of the Pub-
lic Accounts.
The Committee then adjourned to meet again on Eriday, March llth, at
11.30 A.M.
COMMITTEE ROOM.
Friday, March llth, 1910.
Committee met pursuant to adjournment at 11.30 A.M.
Present: — Messieurs Ferguson (Grenville) Chairman; Clark (Bruce),
Clarke (Northumberland), Cochrane, Craig, Dargavel, Hanna, Johnson, Ma-
theson, Musgrove, McCart, McElroy, McEwing, McGarry, Pattinson, Reaume,
Shilling-ton.
Mr. T. W. Gibson was re-examined.
Mr. S. A. Armstrong was re-examined.
Hon. Mr Hanna was examined.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 11
Mr. S. D. Madden, of Cobalt, was sworn and examined.
Ordered. That Geo. E. Martell be found, of possible, and ordered to at-
tend at next meeting of the Committee.
Committee then adjourned to meet on Tuesday, March 15th, at 11.30
A.M.
COMMITTEE ROOM.
Tuesday, March 15th. 1910.
Committee met pursuant to adjournment at 11.30 A.M.
Present: — Messieurs Ferguson (Grenville) Chairman; Bowman, Clark
(Bruce), Clarke (Northumberland), Dargavel, Doyle, Eilber, Elliott, John-
son, Matheson, Musgrove, McCart, McDougal, McElroy, McEwing, McGarry.
Preston (Lanark), Preston (Rainy River), Racine, Reaume, Shillington.
Telegram received from Mr. Geo. E. Martell that he could not attend be-
fore Thursday or Friday next.
Show of hands demanded on motion of Mr. McDougal that Mr. Geo. E.
Martell be ordered to attend for examination on Wednesday, March 16th, 1910.
Declared lost, 6 for motion, 10 against.
Report read, and moved by Mr. Matheson, seconded by Mr. Eilber, that it
be adopted.
Amendment to motion moved by Mr. McDougal, seconded by Mr. Elliott,
the draft report, as read, be amended by inserting as part thereof the fol-
lowing clause: —
Your Committee has enquired into the sale, by the Government of certain
mining locations in the territory known as the "Gillies Limit," and they find
that the Government, on the 13th day of July, 190,9, sold a location A 23 for
$10,500.00 and the purchaser thereafter re-sold the said location for $330,-
000.00, having expended on the property but $3.500 and therefore making a
net profit of $316,000.00. Your Committee are forced to the conclusion that
there has been deplorable mismanagement in connection with the sale of mining
locations in said Gillies Limit, and that the Province has probably lost many
million dollars as a result-
That your Committee as a result of examining witnesses, find that the
Hydro-Electric Commission purchased two second-hand automobiles from the
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Automobile & Supply Company, Limited, but that the real vendors of those
automobiles were the Chief Engineer of the Commission and John F. Beck,
of London, Ontario, and that the purchase was made through the said Auto-
mobile & Supply Company, Limited, merely to conceal the names of the real
vendors, and the said automobiles were purchased by the Commission on the
recommendation of and upon the inspection of the said Chief Engineer, who
was one of the real vendors.
Show of hands demanded on Amendment.
Amendment declared lost, for motion 6, against 12.
Original motion was then put and carried.
Report adopted.
The Committee then adjourned
EVIDENCE.
.Meeting, February 23: G. H. Ferguson in the chair.
D. J. McDouGAL: Mr. Chairman, there is a small matter here that
I might mention. On page 396 there are items for forest ranging. Some
men are paid $2.50 per day and others $5.00 per clay. I want to ask
about these fire rangers. Are they supposed to devote their whole time to this
work, or are they allowed to have other appointments?
Hon. A. J. MATHESON: I am only speaking from general knowledge.
They are expected to give their whole time to the work.
Mr. McDouGAL: I am informed that a great many are employed by sub-
contractors along the line of railway, who are also receiving full pay from
the Government.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : There is an agreement with timber licensees to
pay half of the ranger's wages, the Government paying the other half. The
ordinary fire ranger that the Government sends out separately the Government
pays his whole salary. For instance, if they call out the fire rangers to fight
a fire in their limit which had been started by the railway contractors, the
timber people would pay half of the cost and the Government would pay the
other half.
Mr. McDouGAL : What I mean is, supposing a man is employed by the
railway contractor, could he work for the contractor and just in his off moments
attend to the work of the Government, could he get full pay? Are they not
.supposed to move from place to place ?
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 13
R. H. MCELROY: From my own knowledge the ranger has a beat to
travel.
Mr. McDouGAL : I know of a contractor who had seven men in his employ,
.who drew their pay from him, and also drew full pay from the Government
for fire ranging.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : They may have been part of an arrangement that
*the Government pay them in case of a fire on a limit along the line of railway.
Mr. McDouGAL : On page 409 there are a number of items at the bottom
-of the page. Under " Licensees and assistance, extinguishing fires/7 for
instance " Algoma Central and Hudson Bay Railway Company, $69 8. '5 3."
The CHAIRMAN : These are just what we have been talking about. There is
a timber licensee who keeps track of the fire rangers for the Government, and
in the event of a fire half the cost is paid by the Government.
Mr. Gillard, Accountant in the Lands, Forests and Mines Department,
was called to the stand, and testified as follows:—
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q._-On page 409, " Licensees and assistance, extinguishing fires," Algoma
Central and Hudson Bay Railway Company, $698.53." ^ How are the accounts
kept? A. — These are accounts of men hired by the licensees of land. The
appointments are recommended by the licensees, and we note the appointments
here arid provide them with their equipment. If a fire occurs on the lands of
a licensee where this rfcnger is he calls in help, and the Department pays one-
ihalf of the expense and the licensee pays the other.
Q. Is this on a timber berth where the timber man owns the Berth, or
where it is sold at so much per thousand feet? A. — In either case.
Q. — Take the Algoma Central and Hudson Bay Railway account of
$698.53. How is this account kept ? How do you know the amount is correct ?
A. — We have an affidavit form which is sworn to by the ranger, and another
form which is sworn to by the licensee.
Q. — In some places you pay the men two dollars and fifty cents per day,
and in others five dollars? A.— These are men employed on Crown Lands,
and along the Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Railway. The ordinary
rangers receive $2.50 per day, and the foremen five dollars per day.
Q. — The men you pay the full amount to. Are they supposed to give
their whole time to the work ? A.— Yes. They give their whole time to the
work.
Q. — That is, they are supposed to work entirely for the Province?
A. — They are not supposed to do any other work.
Q. — If a man was employed in this way, he is not supposed to dk)
any other work whatever? A. — !No.
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Q. — If a man was working, say for the Transcontinental Railway, he
would not be entitled to draw full pay from the Department ? A. — No. In
any case like that we would get rid of that man.
The witness was discharged.
Mr. McDouGAL: Mr. Chairman, on page 412 I notice a payment of
$35,000, "Compensation for timber destroyed by fire, T. & K O. Railway,
Gillies Brothers."
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: That was specially voted in the House last year.
Gillies Brothers commenced an action against the T. & !N". O. Railway, and it
was thrown out on a technicality. The loss of timber by fire was something over
,'$100,000, and the House voted this sum of money in settlement of their claim.
They claimed a much larger amount. Is that right, Mr. Gibson?
Mr. GIBSON (in attendance) : Yes.
Mr. McDouGAL : What was the technicality ?
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : Their license had not been renewed.
Mr. McDouGAL: Had the Government made any enquiries as to the
'amount of the loss?
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: Yes. Extensive enquiries were made.
Mr. GIBSON : Yes. Enquiries were made. We went into the matter very
'fully. The thing hung over for a long time before a compromise was arrived
at. I am quite satisfied that the Gillies' loss was muoh larger,
Mr. McDouGAL: On the same page I notice a number of items, for
example, " George S. Avrey, accountable, $1,600."
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : That means that the work was not finished and the
'account had not been certified to by the auditor at the time the public accounts
hvere made up.
Mr. McDouGAL: James Hutcheon, unaccounted for, $4,500.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: He did not put in any vouchers for that. These
jpayments are always given by the Crown Lands Department. They know
ipretty well what work has been done, but a certain amount of money is with-
held until the contract is completed. The contractor has got some money, but
the final adjustment has not been made. There are more of these items this
year than usual, on account of the fiscal year being only ten months.
Mr. ELLIOTT: On pages 444 and 445, Public Accounts, there are items
under Hydro-Electric Power Commission, for legal expenses, $7,395; $3,000;
and $2,333.61.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : The Commission employed Mr. A. E. Lobb as chief
solicitor, and he in turn employed agents throughout the country in connection
with the purchase of the right-of-way. ' If you will make a motion and ask
Mr. Pope, the secretary, to appear before the Committee and bring down the
papers, he will be able to explain it.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 15
Mr. ELLIOTT : What about the automobiles ? For this there is an item of
$15.171.61.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : There are four automobiles, which have been pur-
chased by the Commission. One, was destroyed by fire. They received some-
thing by way of insurance, and purchased another. The machines are used
principally by the engineers going over the right of way. This item probably
includes the cost of operation.
Mr. ELLIOTT: There is also an item for general expenses.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: This refers to expenses in connection with other
proposed work, as in the case of the Trent Valley Canal water power, which
will ultimately come into the Niagara transmission system.
Mr. ELLIOTT: Mr. Chairman, I make a motion, seconded by Mr. Clark
(Northumberland), that particulars be furnished of (1) item of $7,395 on
page 444 of the Public Accounts for legal expenses in connection with the
Hydro-Electric Power Commission; (2) item of $3,000 on page 445 for legal
expenses; (3) item of $2,333.61 on page 445 for legal expenses and payments
of sundry fees, etc., to out-of-town solicitors ; (4) sundry advances to be
accounted for by A. F. Lobb, $5,550; (5) proportion of general expenses,
$7,088.30; (6) automobiles, $15,176.61; (7) sundry fees charged by A. F.
Lobb, $7,745; and that the Secretary, Mr. W. W. Pope, be called upon to ex-
plain these items.
Mr. Me CART : There is an item on page 385 for wages, a road from Charl-
ton to Gowganda, $20,648.55. Is it necessary to bulk amounts like this?
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : We take tenders for the work. You will see among
the receipts under casual revenue that three or four contractors forfeited their
cheques for non-compliance with the terms of the contracts, and the work was
done by day labour. You can get these particulars on a motion for a return.
Mr. McCART : Were tenders taken ?
Hon. Mr. MATHESO^ : Yes, and the cheques were forfeited on the refusal
of the contractors to proceed with the work. On page A46, Gowganda Eoad,
there are three deposits forfeited of men who had tendered and would not go
on with the road. The fact of forfeiting one or two cheques stops men ten-
dering who have no intention of going on with the work.
Mr. MCCART: Did these men, whose cheques were forfeited, have any-
thing to do with the work?
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: It was carried on by day labour.
Mr. MCCART: Also on page 385 there is an item of $1,102.88, W. H.
Stewart, provisions.
Hon. Mr. MATHESOX : All I know is that the work was done by day labour.
These supplies were purchased when needed. Someone was put in charge. It
was impossible to sret into Gowganda except at enormous expense. The route
by canoe was much longer. The present road is about 27 miles from Elk
Lake to Gowganda. It is a good road and much shorter than the other route of
sixty miles.
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Mr. MCELROY: To illustrate the advantage of this road; before it was
built it cost me six dollars per hundred to get merchandise into Gowganda, and
now I only pay $1.50.
Mr. McDouGAL: On page A18 there is an item from provincial mines of
$115,411.71. Is that from the sale of the mine?
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : It is part of it. We also received some money from
the sale of the Gowganda town-site.
Mr. McDouGAL: But is all of the money from the sale of the provincial
mine that came in last year in this item ? I would like the details.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: All the money that was received up to the 31st of
October.
Mr. Me CART: Mr. Chairman, I move, seconded by Mr. Clarke (Northum-
berland), that the particulars of the item on page 385, road from Charlton
to Gowganda, wages, $20,648.55, be furnished to this Committee.
Mr. McDouGAL: Mr. Chairman, I move, seconded by Mr. Clarke (North-
umberland), that particulars be furnished and all papers brought down in
connection with the item (page A18), Provincial Mines, $115,411.17, and
Mining $235,098.04, and that Mr. Gibson be summoned to testify.
The Committee then adjourned.
COMMITTEE ROOM.
Thursday, 24th February, 1910.
The Committee met on Thursday, February 24th, with Mr. Ferguson
(Grenville) in the Chair.
Mr. W. W. Pope, secretary of the Hydro-Electric Power Commission,
called, sworn and examined.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — The first item about which I asked particulars is on p^ge 444 of the
Public Accounts, legal expenses, $7,395. A. — The particulars are covered by
a payment of $395 to T. G. Meredith, K.C., London, for counsel fees in con-
nection with municipal agreements, bylaws, etc.
By Mr. FRIPP.
Q. — Do you tax these, Mr. Pope? A. — The account was incurred before
my time.
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q. — Does your Department tax the value ? A. — I cannot say. This was
the only bill that I found up to the time that I joined the Commission.
'Q. — When did you enter that Department? A. — The first of October
last.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Who was attending to the work you are now doing before you came
with the Commission ? A. — My work covers a new Department that was
created at that time.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 17
Q. — Who passed on the bills before then? A. — -The Commission as a
whole.
Q. — What course is followed now? A. — The local solicitor searches the
title and is allowed $5 for each title. T/his bill covers a good deal of work.
Q. — How are the items made up ? A. — Seven thousand paid to A. F.
Lobb on account of service, and the $395 to Mr. Meredith.
Q. — Is Mr. Lobb paid a salary ? A. — The $7,000 paid at that time was
on account of services from 1906, when Mr. Lobb undertook the work, to March
1, 1909.
Q. — At what rate was he paid ? A. — I am not able to say that there was
exactly a fixed rate, but I think the amount is figured on the basis of $400 per
month; but that does not include travelling and hotel expenses.
Q.— That is $4,800 per year ? A.— Yes.
Q. — Do you know when that agreement started? A. — I could not give
the date of that agreement.
Q. — Do you know if that is the salary at which he is still engaged?
A.— No.
Q. — But that $4,800 is the rate up to the beginning of 1909 ; as I under-
stand it, there was a new engagement from tiiat time on? A. — Yes.
Q. — What were Mr. Lobb's duties? A. — He was to take charge of the
ri^ht-of^way, which made it necessary for him to be constantly away from
his business, and which occupied practically the whole of his time.
Q. — What was the arrangement? A. — I understand there was no fixed
rate, but there is a bill for it. In all Mr. Lobb was paid $10,000 during 1909
on account of his services prior to March, 1909.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — That is on the basis of $400 per month ? Mr. Pope. — Yes. He was
paid' on March 18, $2,000; March 31, $3,000; May 27, $3,000; July 21,
$2,000. That covers items one and two, which your return calls for, including
the payment to Mr. Meredith.
Q. — Do I understand that during that time he devoted his whole time to
the work of the Commission ? A. — Very largely.
Q. — And according to the agreement to the first of March he was paid
at the rate of $400 per month ? A. — Yes. That is my understanding.
Q. — Since that time has he devoted his whole time to the work ? A. — All
during the summer months and until I came in.
Q. — At what rate ? A. — At no fixed rate as far as I know.
Q. — According to the work he did? A. — Yes. Taking into considera-
tion all his dealings over the whole right-of-way from March until the end
of October.
Q. — Have you his bill for that ? A. — Yes, sir. (Mr. Pope produced the
bill, which was filed with the Clerk of the Committee.)
Q. — Is it to the end of the year? A. — To the end of the fiscal year only.
I asked for an account of all right-of-way transactions for the information of
the Provincial Treasurer, and that is what we got. I may say that the memo-
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randum Includes all his railway fares, hotel expenses and the expenses of what-
ever help he had. It includes his whole charge.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — I understand, Mr. Pope, that this bill is simply rendered, and does not
represent what the Commission paid him. slt is what he claims? A. — Yes,
it is what he claims, The amount has not yet been adjusted.
By Mr. JOHNSON.
Q. — Is it owing but not adjusted between the Commission and Mr. Lobb?
A. — It is owing to the fact that these fees were not settled, as the Com-
mission desires to know what it is fair to pay.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — This bill includes, as I understand it, payments he has made to
various persons for right-of-way work? A. — When he took over the
right-of-way part of the work was done by local solicitors. For
instance, at St. Catharines by Mr. Fraser, . Hamilton by Martin
& Martin, Guelph by McDonald & Drew, Stratford by Mr, Davidson,
London by Bayly & Bayly. Each county had a separate man to close up
the right-of-way transactions. Agreements were taken by the land department,
and when a sufficient number of these had been got together the deeds were
drawn up and Mr. Lobb drew money from the Commission, and this money
was accounted for by way of the right-of-way deed.
Q. — Is it possible from this account to show what amounts were paid to
Messrs. Martin & Martin and other out-of-town solicitors for right-of-way and
other fees ? A. — No, you could not do that. Some of them included a number
of deeds in one draft, and others drew for separate deeds.
Q. — So from this bill you could not tell what was paid for fees?
A. — No, the bill includes what was paid for fees and the amount of dis-
bursements ; also you^will see that $5 is the amount usually allo\ved for a deed,
but in some cases where they had considerable trouble $7.50 was allowed, and
in exceptional cases $10.
Q. — Has Mr. Lobb in any cases charged more than $30 per day?
A. — Yes, later on, in September and October.
Q. — Yes, I saw in some places that he charged as high as $40 per day?
A.— Yes.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: But that is only a charge.
Q. — Do you know of him charging more than $40 per day? A. — No.
This is the only bill we have received from Mr. Lobb, and it is under con-
sideration.
Q.— In that other bill of Mr. Lobb's there is an amount of $2,000. Is
that part of the $10,000 which you have mentioned ? A.— Yes. The $10,000
covers items one and two, about which you asked particulars. He had drawn
nothing for his services during these years until 1909. I have his vouchers
for the amount mentioned.
Q. — The next item of general expenses — perhaps we had better stick to
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1.
legal expenses— on page 445 for $3,000. A.— That is also part of the $10,000
I have mentioned, and is represented by one payment of $3,000 on March the
first.
Q. — Now with regard to the item of $7,745, sundry fees charged by A.
F. Lobb. A. — That is covered by the accounts you have in your hand. If you
figure at $30 and $5 per day, it will divide into this sum although I have no
special particulars of the $7,745.
Q. — DO I understand that the amount is made up at $35 and $40 per
day ? A.— Yes.
Q.— And it is all covered by the $7,745 ? A. — Yes.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : You will notice in the statement there it should
be unaccounted for. It is not settled yet.
Q. — Do I understand that the $7,745 pays Mr. Lobb for his time from
the first of March to the thirty-first of October, but the account has not been
paid yet ? A. — Yes, sir. He merely put in a statement for the time spent,
and accounts for the moneys he has handled in that way.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q" — After the final settlement the amount will not necessarily be so high ?
A. — No. Whatever is right he will get credit for and any balance remaining
will be returned to the Commission.
Q. — Well now, this item of $3,000 for legal expenses ? A. — As explained,
that comes in before the first of March, 1909.
Q. — What about the item for general expenses, $1,026.91?
The CHAIRMAN: That is not asked for.
Q. — Well then, proportion of general expenses, $7,188.30, on page 444?
A. — .It arises in this way; a voucher may cover a considerable amount of
money paid in a lump sum. That is divided by the account and charged to the
different branches of the work to which the various items may be applicable.
It may be transmission line, telephone line, right-of-way, or any other account.
Any number, of these might be included in an item for general expenses.
Q. — Are there any fees for solicitors included in that item? A. — None
that I know of.
Q. — Would you be able to present the details of such a statement? A. —
It would take a great deal of time and the accountant might have to go through
four or five hundred vouchers.
Q. — What time is covered by this charge? A. — The first ten months of
1909.
Q. — Well now, there is an item on page 445, automobiles, $15,176.61.
Have you any particulars of that ? A. — Yes, sir. I have the vouchers. They
call for four automobiles, two second-hand machines for which $3,250 was paid.
Q. — What make are the second-hand machines ? A. — One is an Olds and
the other a Mitchell.
Q. — What price was paid for each ? A. — The two were lumped together.
Q. — Who were they bought from? A. — The Automobile and Supply
Company, Limited.
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Q._Of where ? A.— Of Toronto.
Q. — is there any correspondence relating to the purchase of these auto-
mobiles? A. — None that I know of.
By Mr. PROUDFOOT.
Q. — Do you know anything about the power of these machines? A.—
do not know anything about automobiles whatever. These were purchased
prior to my joining the Commission.
Q. — Could you give any information as to whom the automobiles were
purchased by ? A. — I could find it out.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Now about the two other automobiles ? A. — There ia a new Eussell
car which cost $4,254.
Q. — Who was it purchased from? A. — Canada Cycle and Motor Company,
Limited.
Q. — And the other one ? A. — That was a Pearce Great Arrow, and was
bought for $5,259.
Q. — Where are these autos now ? A.» — Three are at the garage in Toronto
and the other is in Hamilton.
Q. — What one is in Hamilton? A. — I do not know. The general in-
spector has one on the line, and the chief engineer has one at his disposal. He
has charge of them and distributes them as they are required along the right-
of-way.
Q.' — Who could tell us about them? A. — I think Mr. Beck could.
Q. — You know nothing about who made the purchase of these autos?
A.— No.
By Hon. Mr. MATIIESOT*.
Q. — Does this item include any portion of the cost of running the ma-
chines? A. — Yes, sir, it includes the upkeep.
Q.— How much ? A.— About $2,413.61.
Q. — Who is the chauffeur? A. — I do not know.
Q. — Do you know what his salary is ? A. — There are four cars. I think
they have as many as three men at a time, and when the demand for the cars
is light they keep two. I think two are kept permanently.
Q. — Do you know what wages they are paid ? A. — Fifty dollars a month,
I think. Then there is the rent of the garage to keep them in and repairs.
Mr. PROUDFOOT.
Q.' — Do they supply the solicitor with one ? A. — Not yet.
Q. — One more question, Mr. Pope. You stated that Mr. LobVs fee was
thirty dollars to forty dollars per day. Does he make these charges on his
own responsibility?
By Hon. Mr. MATiiESoisr.
Mr. Lobb made these charges, but I understand that this is not a bill which
has been paid ? A. — Mr. Lobb states that for a considerable period he spent his
whole time on the work, day, night and Sunday. This was during the later
months of the year when the work took practically every moment of his time,
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for which he made the additional charge. None of these accounts have been
acknowledged, nor has the Commission agreed to pay them. At the rate of
$40 per day the item would amount to $12,000 per year.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — Bat so far his fees were only settled at $400 per month.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — But he had been paid some money? A. — He drew money from the
Commission, deposited to his credit in the bank, and paid the drafts against
the right-of-way deeds. When I came in the system was changed, and the
drafts were made on the Commission instead of on Mr. Lobb.
Q. — You have changed the system from what Mr. Lobb had before you
took charge ? A. — Yes, in fact we have gone back to the system that obtained
before Mr. Lobb took over the right-of-way.
The witness was discharged.
Mr. THOMAS W. GIBSON, Deputy Minister of Mines, called, sworn and
examined.
By Mr. McDouoAL.
Q. — On page 418 there is an item for mining, $235,098.04. What does
that cover? A. — That covers receipts from the sale of mining lands during
the first ten months of 1909.
Q. — What land does it include? A. — It includes ordinary mining lands
sold at the price of $250 or $300 per acre, and also some locations.
Q. — There were no locations in the Gillies Limit sold before the time that
this item covers ? A. — !N"o, sir.
Q. — Then how much of this is for locations in the Gillies Limit? A. —
$20.9,968.70.
Q. — How is that made up ? A. — I do not know, but I can get you a de-
tailed statement, which would require a little time. I just got the notice to
appear before the Committee last night, but I have some of the papers here.
It is for sales during the ten months, but only covers actual receipts.
Q. — Can you prepare us a detailed statement of the different amounts
received for the various locations, and also the dates of sale? A. — Yes, there
will be no difficulty about that.
Q. — What portion of the Gillies Limit has been prospected by the Govern-
ment ? A. — The whole of the limit.
Q. — How many acres does the limit contain ? A. — 64,000 acres.
Q. — Has it all been prospected ? A. — Yes, it has all been prospected, but
some portions more thoroughly than others.
Q. — What portion of it is mineralized ? A. — That's a somewhat difficult
question to answer, because it depends on what is meant by mineralized.
Q. — What portion is known to contain minerals ? A. — I would like to
answer that question, but I cannot.
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Q., — Who prospected the Gillies Limit? A. — It was prospected under
the direction of the Provincial Geologist.
Q. — And to whom did the prospectors report? A. — They reported to
the Provincial Geologist, and he reported to the Minister.
Q. — Are these reports on file? A. — They were largely unwritten reports.
Q. — Were there any written reports? A, — Yes.
Q. — Is there anything in the Department to show what the result of in-
vestigation under the Provincial Geologist was ? A. — Yes, there are geological
maps, showing the geology of the limit.
Q. — l,s there any map showing the result of the investigation as to the,
discovery of veins, etc? A. — Maps have been published of those portions of
the Gillies Limit which were offered for sale. ,
Q. — When were these maps published? A. — I think three years ago the
maps were issued, showing a portion of the Gillies Limit.
By Mr. JOHNSON.
Q. — In what year was the Gillies Limit granted to these people? A. — I
suppose the Gillies Limit has been under timber license for fifty years.
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q. — When was the last map published? A. — There has just been one
geological map, and it does not cover the whole of the limit.
Q. — And that map was published three years ago ? A. — Three years ago.
Q. — Have you any report of the investigation of your prospectors within
the last three years ? A. — Do you mean a written report ?
Q. — Yes. A. — I cannot say that we have.
Q. — Well you, as Deputy Minister of Mines, would know if you had any
maps or written reports by the prospectors? A. — We have on file a map of
the Gillies Limit.
Q. — But you say that was published three years ago? A.1 — No, we have
on file a map showing the geology of the Gillies Limit. It is a manuscript map
and quite distinct from the one published three years ago which shows only
those portions which have been offered for sale. The former shows the char-
acter of the rock formations and that has not been published.
Q. — You have a map in the Department showing the result of the investi-
gations of the prospectors which has not been published? A. — So far as the
geology is concerned, it shows the geology — the character of the rock forma-
tions.
Q. — Do you know whether the outside public would have access to that
map ? A. — I do not know that it would give much information that would be
of interest to the public. The map was prepared for the use of the Department.
Q. — Do you consider this as a confidential map for the use of the De-
partment ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Have you any map or any report showing any trenching that may
Ihave been done by the Government? A. — We have reports showing some of
the trenching that was done.
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Q._\Vho lias access to these reports? A. — The Minister and Deputy
Minister.
Q. — They are confidential in the same way? A. — Yes.
Q. — Do you publish any of these reports ? A. — No, sir. But I will have
to qualify that some. Information has been given in the report of the Bureau
of Mines from year to year, as to what has been done on the Gillies Limit.
Q. — Has any report been published showing what has been discovered on
portions of the Gillies Limit ? A. — Yes, I think all information of that kind
has been published in the report of the Bureau of Mines. I fancy that a vein
or veins discovered in 1906 by the Government prospectors was mentioned in
the following report.
Q. — Were all veins that were discovered disclosed to the public ? A. — I
think so, either through the report or the map that was published three years
.Q. — Was it given out by way of reports? A. — In a general way I think
'A, was.
Q. — Were the specific findings of the prospectors given out to the public ?
A.— No.
Q. — Were the reports of those who were working the Provincial mine
given verbally to the minister ? A. — Largely by the Provincial Geologist. He
had charge of how the trenching should be done.
Q. — And that information was not given to the public in any way ? A. —
Some of it was, in the report of the Bureau of Mines. The trenching was largely
confined to the northern portion of the limit. It is a difficult and expensive
matter to undertake trenching on a large scale, and the portion that we under-
took to trench was considered to be valuable.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — I suppose the Minister would naturally make enquiries from the
Geologist ? A. — Yes, he was constantly in touch with what was being done.
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q. — You would not give any specific information as to what had been
found ? A. — No, only in a general way.
Q. — How much did Mr. O'Brien pay for the parcel he obtained ? A.—
$10,500.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
>Q. — I suppose, Mr. Gibson, a man might be deceived by your giving out
this information. The vein might not turn out as well as you expected ?
A. — We did not wish to deceive the public.
Q. — In connection with these findings, you repeatedly had people say
that they had found a rich vein ? A.< — We have had dozens of people tell us
that they had discovered a valuable vein on the limit. We investigated every
one, and there was not a scintilla of truth in any of them.
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q. — If private parties had gained some of the Government information,
would that not help them in bidding ? A. — It would not help them a bit.
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Q. — Then your information was of no use ? And of no use to the public ?
A. — It was largely negative.
Q. — Didn't you find any good veins at all ? A. — Only the vein eta. the
Provincial mine. It appeared good on the surface, but it did not carry silver
down to any great depth.
By the CHAIRMAN.
Q. — There are good properties on the limit? A. — Location A23 sold to
Robt. McKay for $10,500, which has just been referred to.
Q. — What date was that? A. — That was in connection with the first
sale, in June, 1909.
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q. — Do you know the amount of the transfer to Mr. O'Brien? A. — I
do not know.
Q. — What was the date of the transfer? A. — I could not give you the
date.
Q. — Nor the consideration,? A. — I could not tell you that.
Q. — Will not your papers show it? A. — Not these I have here.
Q. — Would there not be some information on the transfer? A.> — We
sold it to McKay for $10,500. He paid the money and made a transfer to
another party. The transfer rarely shows the real consideration.
Q. — Were the lands sold by public tender ? A. — Yes, sir.
Q. — Will you produce the transfer and whatever papers are in the De-
partment with regard to it ? A. — I have no objection if the Committee orders.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — Mr. Gibson, is there not a provision for a royalty of 10 per cent, to
be paid on the output, so that if the mine turns out well the Government will
receive the benefit? A. — Yes, sir.
The Committee adjourned.
COMMITTEE ROOM.
Toronto, March 2, 1910.
'IJon. Adam Beck, called, sworn and examined by Mr. Elliott.
"Q, — You are chairman of the Hydro-Electric Power Commission?
A.— Yes.
Q. — Will you please state what the arrangements are with regard to the
engagements of solicitors? A. — The solicitors engaged in the work in con-
nection with the right-of-way or the one attached to the Hydro-Electric Com-
mission ?
Q. — The one attached. A. — The only permanent solicitor we have
engaged by the month, or year, is Mr. Lobb.
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Q. — What arrangement was made with him ? A. — The arrangement
was that he should receive the same salary as the solicitor for the Temiskaming
and Northern Ontario Kailway, that is, $400 per month and expenses.
Q. — When was that arrangement made ? A. — That was made when he
came into the service.
Q. — About what date was that? A. — Two or three years ago.
Q. — And he billed you, as I understand it, at that rate until the first of
March, 1909 ? A.— Yes.
Q; — Was there any other arrangement made with him? A. — Not
any, other than this, which was indefinite. As we did not really
know what the work would amount to in March, the Commission felt that
someone would have to give his whole attention to the right-of-way. There
were considerable adjustments to be made and some litigations pending, and to
secure the right-of-way in time for the contractors it was felt that someone
would have to be engaged to give his whole time to the work. Mr. Lobb had
been connected with the work until that time, so he was authorized to take
charge of the work and give what time was necessary to it. He could not give
us any idea what time he would have to give, so wre said we would adjust that
later on. Mr. Lobb went to work and gave whatever time was necessary, and
I believe gave the whole of his time.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — This $400 per month included his office expenses ? A. — Yes, $400
was not only for his own work, but for the office expenses. It was for every-
thing.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — But not travelling or hotel expenses ? A. — They were extra.
Q. — Then I understand that $400 per month paid for all his time until
March, 1909 ?
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : Mr. Beck does not understand what you mean.
That arrangement was in full payment of his services for all the time given to
the work of the Hydro-Electric up to March. He was simply paid for the time
he devoted to the Hydro-Electric during that period? A. — Yes.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — What work did that include ? A. — Everything that the Commission
had to do ; drawing up contracts, examining bylaws and agreements, etc.
Q. — So that after the first of March a different arrangement was made?
A. — Yes, but there was no fixed rate settled upon.
Q. — Have his accounts been rendered until the end of October, 1909 ?
A. — Yes, but they have not been paid yet.
Q. — Was there any discussion by the Commission as to passing or re-
jecting the amounts charged? A. — Yes, the Commission thought that the
accounts should be sent to the Attorney-General to be examined. We did not
think that the Commission would be justified in saying that they were right
or wrong, and we thought we might leave it to the Attorney-General to be taxed.
26 APPENDIX No. 1. 1910
Q. — Up until the latter part of 1909, that is for the ten months of that
year, he was billing the Commission at $40 per day ? A. — I believe there were
some charges at $30 per day and $40.
Q. — Forty dollars was the last charge ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Can you give any idea whether that charge was too high ? A. — I do
not think the accounts should be before this Committee. They are not paid yet
and we will ask for advice as to the charges made. Advances were made from
'.time to time for which he gives a statement.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — The whole payments did not exceed $400 per month ? A. — We pro-
tected ourselves to that extent, in case, after taxing, the amount given would
Hot entitle him to what was claimed in his bill.
^By Mr. ELLIOTT.
My point is this, Mr. Chairman, these accounts appear in the public ac-
counts for the ten months ending October 31, 1909, and I submit that we
are entitled to have some reasonable idea, as far as the Commission knows, as
to how much the Province will be called upon to pay.
Q. — Would you consider $40 per day, and $5 in addition for expenses,
'a reasonable amount ? A. — Have I a right to state what amount I consider the
Commission should be billed at ?
Mr. Me GARRY.
. I do not think we should listen to this questioning by Mr. Elliott. A
legal man has a right to charge what his "work is worth, and it is not fair to
ask a layman.
Mr. ELLIOTT : As a member of the Committee that has to deal with these
accounts I submit that we are entitled to the information from a member of
the Commission.
Hon. Mr. BECK: Mr. Chairman, we have not dealt with the accounts,
but have safeguarded the Province by advancing an amount equal to what he
had been receiving until that time, and will leave the adjustment of any future
amounts to be paid in the hands of a law officer. I do not think that I should
be called upon to say what is a reasonable charge. If the Commission had paid
the account and settled the matter it would have been different.
Mr. ELLIOTT: As I understood Mr. Pope the other day, Mr. Lobb has
charged the Commission with money held by him.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : But that is shown in the bill.
Mr. ELLIOTT: That is all we have at the present time, and I think an
answer to my question is evidence.
Mr. POPE (in attendance) : But the accounts have not yet, been passed
by the Commission.
Hon. Mr. BECK : I certainly think you are asking for some information
which is out of the way.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: Do you think it in the interest of the Province
that the chairman of the Commission should give his opinion of a thing upon
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which the Commission has not decided ? If he gave his opinion it might go
against them in taxing. I do not think his opinion should be asked.
Mr. ELLIOTT: I suppose if the Commission had considered it a reason-
able charge they would pay the account.
Hon. Mr. MATHESOIST : Up to $400.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — The moneys Mr. Lobb has held back — do they amount to $400 per
month and expenses ? A. — $400 per month and expenses.
Q. — Thifs is the amount he has charged on account ? A. — Mr. Chairman,
Mr. Lobb was one and one half years in the service of the Commission before
he was paid a dollar, and then he went on at the same rate, and then we said,
pending some knowledge of what amount he should get, we would continue
advancing him amounts equal to that.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESO^.
I understand that the amounts paid to him were on account of his previous
services ?
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
In Mr. Pope's statement he says that the $10,000 paid to Mr. Lobb during
March covers items one and two, about which particulars were asked yester-
day. The explanation of Mr. Pope, as I understand it, is that up to October
31, 1909, Mr. Lobb charged for part of his time at $40 per day, and $5 added
for expenses, and that he has held back enough to meet this charge, as well as
his charge of $400 per month to the first of March, 1909, and still has a bal-
ance, as per statement, of $2,279.39.
Hon. Mr. BECK : Mr. Pope will have the explanation of that, Mr. Chair-
man.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Does Mr. Lobb hold moneys at $30 and $40 per day ?
By Hon. Mr. MATIIESON.
There was no exact settlement. Until the first of March he was paid at
$400 per month.
Hon. Mr. SECK : That was to be his remuneration for his services.
Mr. ELLIOTT: It is a simple question and can be answered in a simple
way, and we can understand whether or not Mr. Lobb at the present time
holds funds of the Commission and has charged the Commission with his ser-
vices at a higher rate than $400 per month.
A. — You want to know whether he has been paid any more than $400 per
month ? I told you he has not been paid for all his services at more than $400
per month. The balance 011 hand, shown in the public accounts, is not for
wages at all. It is money he has drawn for payments on account of right-of-
way. Moneys were passed to the credit of his account to pay the solicitors.
He is one of the solicitors, and amounts have been granted him for his own
services. We have always reserved enough so that he would not be paid at
more than $400 per month.
28 APPENDIX No. 1. 1910
Q. — Can you tell me how much he has charged up against the Commis-
sion. A. — No, Mr. Pope has those items.
By Mr. McDotrGAL.
Q. — Does not Mr. Lobb hold the full amount for his bill ? Mr. Pope. —
No, sir.
Q;.' — Then the balance remains, charged at what rate for his services?
A. — At the rate of less than $400 per month.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
There is a charge of $7,395 of which $395 was paid to T. G. Meredith, of
London, which leaves a balance of $7,000 paid on account of his services from
.March of 1906 to March of 1909, at the rate of $4,800 per year, which is part
of $10,000 paid out on account of services prior to the first of March, 1909.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
The difference between the Commission and Lobb is, that Mr. Lobb
was engaged at that rate, but the Commission has only allowed that amount
•after the first of March of this year, during which time Mr. Lobb had charge
of the right-of-way.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Has any proceeding been taken to tax his account up to the present
time? A. — Not yet.
Q. — Has the Commission decided to tax the bills ? A. — Yes.
Q. — When was that decision arrived at? A. — A month or two ago.
Q.— Not before October 31, 1,909 ? A.— Oh, no.
Q. — They will be taxed in due course? A. — I suppose so.
Q. — You have not any contract at the present time for the whole of his
services ? A. — No.
Q. — Not from the first of March, 1909 ? A. — No.
Q. — There was a definite amount fixed at $400 a month at one time, and
when you decided that he should take charge of the right-of-way no definite
amount was fixed? A. — No. The Commission decided that he should give
his services, or they would not be able to secure the right-of-way in time. We
could not tell how much time he would require, and we did not know what his
time was worth, so the Commission decided to have his bill taxed.
Q. — The Commission feel that they have been billed too high, and for that
reason have decided to have the bill taxed ? A. — Yes.
Q. — -Has there been any decision as to who will tax the bill ? A. — No.
Q. — I understand that there is no dispute about the bill, but merely that
you wish to be sure as to the payment? A. — Yes.
By Mr. McDouaAL.
You do not wish to convey the impression that you will appear before the
taxing officer at Osgoode Hall, but merely that you desire to have the Attorney-
General pass the account ? A. — Mr. Chairman, we have to give an accounting
of this bill to the municipalities, and as we felt that this was a bill which we
could not judge ourselves we determined to refer it to the Attorney-General.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX Xo. 1. 29
There are, no doubt, similar cases occurring from time to time, so we deter-
mined to pursue the same course.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Can you tell me the date when he first came into the service of the
Commission? ;A. — I think in March, 1906. We arrived at his salary by
what was paid to the solicitor of the T. & N. O.
Q._Who is the solicitor for the T. & N. O. ? A.— D. E. Thompson, K.C.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: The solicitor for the T. & E". O. takes charge of
the litigation and deals with the question of rates, contracts, etc.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — The $400 per month paid him covers everything he does for the
Commission ?
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: And expenses.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Does he devote his whole time to the T. & N , 0. ? Hon. Mr.
Matheson. — No.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Is Mr. Lobb allowed to go on with his practice in the same way?
A.— He did.
Q. — So that the payments up to the present time did not preclude him
from practising his profession otherwise than for the Hydro-Electric?
A.— No, but I believe he claims that he gave his whole time night, day
and Sundays, in connection with the right-of-way during the summer.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: It includes all his fees, stenographer, etc.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Has he charged for Sundays as far as you know? A. — I think so.
Q. — Now then, there is an item for general expenses, $7,188.30.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: That is the division between the Niagara trans-
mission line and the other projects.
Hon. Mr. BECK : Mr. Pope, I think, will be able to tell you about that.
Mr. POPE : It includes a large number of items which cannot be charged
to any specific account. They are all lumped and put into this general account.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: These are different charges, made, for instance,
against Port Arthur and other transmission projects, and some against the
Niagara transmission.
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q. — Could not the details be given ? A. — Not very well. The accountant
would require to go through several hundred vouchers. For instance, Mr.
Sothmann's salary is divided between these accounts.
Hon. Mr. BECK : We have a twofold work. First we have our work in
connection with the Niagara transmission, and then there is a great deal of
work and reporting to be done on the part of the water-powers of the Province
as a whole, from the Mississippi River in the west to the Moyer River in the
east, and other undertakings which are not chargeable to any municipality,
and is general information which is chargeable only to the Province.
30 APPENDIX Xo. 1. 1910
Q. — Are they included in this list of expenses ? A. — They are a portion
of the whole.
Q. — What proportion of the cost of this amount is chargeable to the
Niagara transmission ? A. — Simply the proportion that deals with work in
connection with the Niagara transmission. Anything which was of a general
nature and of general benefit to the Province was accounted for in this way;
for instance, a deputation comes down and asks the Commission for a report
on the storage capacity of the Grand River, the River Thames, and other
streams.
Q. — How much of the money charged in this account will not be charged
against the municipalities? I refer to the total in the outside column,
$486,893.73. I suppose if they take power afterwards you will charge this
preliminary cost to them. A. — No. At one time we started to obtain reports
covering the whole ,of the Province.
Q. — It is current expenditure, and you do not expect to get any return
from it?
Mr. MC?GARRY: Mr. Chairman, I object to Mr. Elliott asking any witness
questions of Government policy.
Hon. Mr. MATHESO^: The charges are put through capital account.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
'Q. — There is an item, Mr. Beck, of $15,176.61 for four automobiles.
What was the idea of the Commission in obtaining these automobiles ? A.— To
carry on the work of the Commission.
Q. — Were they used on certain districts only, or on all the work?
A. — There was no particular work for any machine.
Q. — What was the idea in getting four? A. — They were required.
Q. — Were they assigned to perform particular duties? A. — No.
Q. — Was there any division of labour among them? A. — There might
be by the engineer, but not by the Commission. They were under his charge
and used in connection with the construction of the line.
Q. — You bought the four with a lump sum? A. — The recommendation
of the engineer was that he would require six automobiles. The purpose was
to convey the engineers and inspectors from one part of the work to another.
fThey were to be used by anyone who required them in connection with the work
of the Commission. A room was obtained to store them when in the city.
The rule was that they would be kept for use by anyone who required them
at any time. The Commission cut the recommendation of the engineer down
to four automobiles.
Q. — What rule did you follow in purchasing these automobiles? A. — I
think we advertised for tenders.
Q. — In what papers? A. — Well, really, I do not know whether we
actually advertised, but we asked all manufacturers and dealers in automobiles
to submit tenders. We had regular specifications outlining the duties they
would be required to perform, and sent them to the different manufacturers
and dealers in the city.
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By Mr. CLARKE (West Northumberland.)
Q. — Were the specifications the same for the four machines? A. — No.
Two were for second-hand machines.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — I understand you to say that specifications were sent to all the manu-
facturers ? A. — All that we knew of in Canada.
Q. — All Canadian ? A. — All the dealers in this Province.
Q. — Have you a copy of the circular which was sent out? A. — I think
it was simply a letter, giving the specifications.
Q. — Have you it with you ? A. — I do not know whether a copy was kept,
but I suppose I could get them.
Q. — How did you decide on the Pearce Arrow for $5,259 ? A. — Because
it was a machine which was recommended by the engineer as most suitable for
the work.
Q. — Was there any difference in the class of work it was expected to do
from the work that the second-hand machines would have to do? A. — It was
proposed to buy a machine which would be used by the chief engineer in going
to Niagara. He had long distances to travel and would require a machine with
extra power.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — Is this the same machine which, if bought to-day, would cost outside
buyers a good deal more than you paid ? A.- — It is a high-class machine. The
other machines could be used on shorter distances in the country, but we
required two machines to do the harder work.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
'Q. — What did your specifications call for?. A. — The specifications were
in detail, and stipulated that the machines would require to stand certain tests.
Q. — How did you arrange the specifications for the second-hand auto-
mobiles ? A. — They called for certain tests. The man who would run these
machines had some experience. He was a first-class engineer, although I am
not sure that he was an experienced chauffeur. If you give a new machine
to a man without any experience he might ruin it, and so for the work on the
line we bought second-hand machines.
Q. — WTere there specifications issued for the second-hand machines?
A. — Not beyond what I have indicated.
Q. — Did you have any communication with regard to the second-hand
machines, or did you have any correspondence with the Automobile & Sup-
ply Co. ? A. — I do not know. The engineer was instructed to go and find
second-hand machines, examine and try, and make recommendations if they
were found suitable. One was in our service a good many weeks before it was
finally bought.
Q. — Who bought the second-hand machines ? A. — The Commission, upon
the recommendation of the engineers.
Q. — Who was the individual ? A. — The Commission as a whole.
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Q. — Do you know anything about the previous history of these machines ?
Who owned them before you bought them ? A. — I do not know.
Q. — They were obtained from the Automobile & Supply Co., Limited,
but you had no idea from whom they secured them ? A. — The chief used one
before it was bought.
Q. — Who is the chief? A. — Mr. Sothmann.
Q. — He had used it before? A. — Yes.
Q. — Do you know where he used it? A. — On the line.
Q. — In the vicinity of Toronto? A. — Yes.
Q. — What machine was that? A. — I do not know.
Q. — Has he other machines? A.— We have two Mitchells now. The
Olds was burned, and as the Mitchell was giving excellent service we took the
insurance money and bought another one of that make.
Q. — You do not know who owned it before Mr. Sothmann was using it
(the Olds) ? A.— I do not know.
Q. — Do you know who owned either of them before you got them ? A. — I
do not know.
Q. — How many automobiles are you running now? A. — Four.
Q. — Is there anything else in the item of $486,893.73, except the
$37,106.27, under the heading of miscellaneous which you do not expect to
get back from the municipalities? A. — The rest is chargeable to Niagara
Power transmission.
Q. — Just while you are here, with regard to the item "Consulting engin-
eers, $6,406.45 " under the same heading? A. — I do not know the details of
any of these charges.
Q. — How many engineers have you ? A. — I cannot tell you offhand.
Q. — You have one chief engineer? A. — Yes.
Q. — What is his name ? A. — P. W. Sothmann.
Q. — What does he get a year ? A. — $6,000.
Q. — What does he do ? A. — He is in charge of the whole of the work.
Q. — Who is next to him? A. — There are three or four men under him;
Mr. Gabey and Mr. Ackers, I suppose, are his principal assistants.
Q. — Are all engaged on a salary? A. — Yes.
Q. — They devote all their time to the work? A.— Yes.
Q. — Can you give us an idea of the salaries they are getting? A. — In
the neighbourhood of $2,000 to $2,500.
Q. — And expenses ? A. — When they are travelling.
Q- — Has there been any change in the chief engineer's salary since he
joined the Commission? A. — He was originally engaged for special work in
connection with reporting on the water-powers of the Province, and was
promised his present salary as soon as we began to build the line. He started
at $3,500 per year.
Q. — When did he commence? A. — He began at $3,500 in 1906. •
Q. — Whom did he succeed ? A. — He succeeded Mr. Cecil B. Smith, who
received $3,000 per year and gave half of his time to the work. Then we
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engaged Mr. Sothmann, who received $3,500 per year on the understanding
that he was to get $6,000 when we commenced building.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : We are expending over $3,000,000 on this trans-
mission line.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — The salaries of these gentlemen are a direct charge upon the munici-
palities ? A. — All but the time that they spend upon general work.
Q.— Which is included in $37,106.27? A.— Yes.
Q. — The item for transmission line survey of $15,665.12, is that included
in the right-of-way wages of survey ? A. — There were three survey parties out,
and sometimes we had four, and we have one now.
Q. — Then proportion of executive engineering, $4,868.44, that is charg-
able to the municipalities ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Transformer stations? A. — This work is done by contract, and we
advance a certain percentage; we hold back a certain amount until the total
work is completed and passed upon by the inspector.
Q. — Proportion of engineering, wages and expenses, for transformer
stations? A. — We have one staff which do the designing of the stations, and
their wages are chargeable on account of each particular station. We keep
each transformer station separate, and the capital invested is charged to che
municipality which receives power from that station.
Q. — Then you expect the municipalities to pay this proportion of engineer-
ing wages and expenses ? -A. — Yes.
Q. — Then a certain amount is charged in this item of $37,106.27?
A. — All of the engineers' expenses, which is charged in that item against public
works, is $669. .9 5. This is for the time of one engineer spent in getting infor-
mation with regard to the storage dam at Dog Lake.
Q. — Is that charge here ? A. — -Yes, in miscellaneous.
Q. — That was for a report on the situation at Dog Lake ? A. — Yes, and
it is included, as you will see, in the item of $47,106.27.
Q. — It is not in connection with the Public Works Department ? A. — We
charge it up to the Province.
Q. — Payments for easements, transmission line, $139,371.30, up to
October 31, 1909. You have the particulars of these payments?. A. — Yes.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : I do not think it is in the public interest that these
should be published at the present time, for this reason — one man gets so much,
and perhaps his neighbour gets more. If you publish that now there are some
33 easements still to settle for. They will say, so-and-so got so much, why
don't I get as much as he does ? It is not in the interest of the Province or
the municipalities to give that just now.
Mr. ELLIOTT : There might be some question about publishing the informa-
tion, but it seems to me that it should be given to this Committee.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : You can easily understand, while we are buying the
right-of-way, we must do this.
31 APPENDIX No. 1. 1910
Hon. Mr. BECK : That is a matter of policy on the part of the Com-
mission. The Commission feel strongly that until these difficulties are settled,
information of this kind cannot be made public. It is not in the interests of
the undertaking. Judgments may be prejudiced. These accounts will be open
and accessible to all municipalities who are assuming any liability. There is
now a committee of accountants appointed by the principal municipalities who
are assuming the liability, and these accountants can come in and see every
item, can criticise and investigate. That is what we want them to do. We
are anxioius that the charges against each municipality shall be fair, and if
found fair, will be confirmed and adjusted.
Hon. Mr. MATIIESON : That would simply be giving information which
would be accessible to those who are trying to defeat the whole scheme. The
Electrical Development Company would be glad to get that information.
Hon. Mr. BECK : I can give you the names of three men who are devoting
a lot of time going over the line every week or so endeavouring to do every-
thing they can to increase the cost of the right-of-way. We have given out
enough material now to enable these men to accomplish their work, and it would
be a bad feature to do anything to increase the cost to the municipalities.
Q. — Who is purchasing the rights-of-way, and who had charge of the
work? A. — Mr. Lobb had charge of the work, and the solicitors in the
different towns look after the deeds.
Q. — I want to know the system which was followed and who had charge.
A. — There were a number of right-of-way buyers, who were under Mr.
McCormack.
Q. — What were his powers? A. — He was appointed by the Commission
and was paid by the day.
Q. — What amount did he receive? A. — He received $6 per day and
expenses when along the line.
Q. — There is nothing as to which particular deal or easement he would
close? A. — No, he took up one section and put some of his men in other
sections.
Q. — That is, he divided sections among the various other purchasers?
A.— Yes.
Q. — How many did he have under him? A. — Oh, one, two, three, four,
or sometimes five.
Q. — Who engaged the men he had under him? A. — The Commission.
Q. — Did he have any power to engage his men ? A. — Not directly.
'Q. — What system was adopted in engaging these men? A. — We had no
system ; the men had to be suitable, reliable, and, above all things, honest.
Q. — Was there any guide given to these men as to the payments they
should make? A. — So much per tower, and this would depend upon the land,
and so much per rod for the patrol.
Q. — How much per tower ? A. — From $20 to $25.
Q. — How much per rod ? A. — Seven dollars per rod to nine dollars.
Q. — That is all they were supposed to pay? A. — Yes.
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Q. — That was the lowest claimed in some places? A. — In a number of
places there was no patrol whatever. It would depend upon where the towers
were placed.
Q. — Then your maximum was $25 per tower and $9 per rod. A. — Yes.
Q. — Were any instructions given to these men as to following an equitable
system among the farmers? A. — Mr. Lobb instructed each man.
Q. — Were the instructions given verbally? A. — I am not sure.
Q. — Do you know if the Commission gave Mr. Lobb or anybody else in-
structions to issue definite orders to the various purchasers? A. — I do not
know. There were definite instructions, but I cannot say whether they were
verbal or written.
Q. — Can you give us a list of the men ? A. — I can.
Q. — There is an item for travelling expenses to Europe, of $2,885.28.
That is charged against miscellaneous, and therefore is paid by the Province ?
A. — This is charged to the Province.
Q. — The whole of the expenses to Europe are charged to the Province and
not to the municipalities ? A. — Yes.
Q. — WThat does that cover ? A. — It covers reports from different parties
with regard to protective system, insulators, etc.
Q.- — What countries did the engineers visit? A. — They visited England,
Germany, Belgium 'and I think Austria. I am not sure of all the countries
they visited.
Q. — Who were the engineers? A. — There were two men, Mr. Sothmann
and one of his assistants.
Q. — How long were they away ? A. — Well, I do not know just now, how
long, but Mr. Mansfeldt accompanied him
Q. — There is nothing definite arranged yet with regard to Mr. Lobb's
future ? A. — No, I suppoes that when the work ceases he will cease.
Q. — That is, the work of purchasing the right-of-way? A. — It is only
the right-of-way that he is engaged on now.
Q. — Has the Commission considered the advisability of arranging with
him later on for future work at a definite sum per month, or from year to
year ? A. — No.
The witness was discharged.
Mr. T. W. GIBSON, Deputy Minister of Mines, recalled and examined by
Mr. Elliott.
Mr. GIBSON : The other day I was asked for information with regard to
the exploration of the Gillies limit which I was unable to give except in a
general way, but I have the particulars now.
Q. — That is, from the Provincial Geologist? A. — Yes. On page 162
of the Bureau of Mines report, issued in the year 1907, the result of the in-
vestigation during 1906 appears on pages eight and ten. There is a general
resume given as to what had been done upon the limit up to that time. The
36 APPENDIX Xo. 1. 1910
fact that the limit was being prospected at that time was noted in the report,
and also the fact that a vein had been found, and also information was given
as to the development which had been made. A shaft had been sunk and cross-
cuts made. That covered only part of the limit.
Q. — That book has been issued to the public ? A. — Yes.
Q. — What subsequent information was given out? A. — In the report of
the Bureau of Mines for the following year, 1908, at pages 1.9 and 20, a mem-
orandum is given showing the result of the work on the provincial mine and
the limit generally up to the end of 1907. It is not very long, and if you de-
sire I can read some extracts. (Reads) :
"When work was commenced by the Bureau of Mines on the Gillies Limit
in 1906, there were rumors of very rich silver finds having been made during
the previous year by prospectors who had gone on the limit without permit.
"All such reported finds where any work has been done were examined by
trenching, etc., but no veins of value were uncovered. In some cases pros-
pectors who claimed to know of solid veins of silver on the limit showred their
findings to us on the understanding that they would receive $150 an inch in
width for veins running over 500 ounces in silver. All these parties were
unable to show us veins of any value, in fact anything that was shown us were
mere cracks in the rock. Several veins were found by us in trenching, but the
most promising was discovered near the southwesterly boundary under four or
five feet of earth on July 19th, 1906.
"During the year 1906 very little actual mining work was done. During
the months of July to October, 1906, about twenty men were employed con-
tinuously, trenching nearly 18,000 feet. Several test pits were put down and
three small shafts were sunk, 10, 30 and 55 feet respectively. In the 55-foot
shaft to the west of the railway 45 feet of drifting and cross-cutting was done
on the 55-foot level.
"In addition to actual prospecting the northern portion of the limit was
surveyed and mapped in 1906, and the main shaft on the vein found adjoining
the Nipissing property was begun."
Mr. Gibson produced also the following statement in detail of collection
from mining sales in Gillies Limit for 10 months ending 31st October, 190.9,
exclusive of Provincial Mine.
Date of Sale 1909 Location. Purchasers. Amount.
June 15 A 1 Glidden, H. P
for Martin, John $10,250.00
July 13 A 2 Glidden, H. P 2,160.00
June 15 A 3 Connell, F. M 2,450.00
June 15 A 4 Afackay, John (4,500) on a/c 1,500.00
Sept. 13 A 5 Webb, George F 7,709.00
Sept. 13 A 6 Cartel, Gedrge E 15,300.00
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Purchasers. Amount. Date of Sale 1909 Location
Sept. 13 A 7. Flinn, A. E 4,506.00
July 13 A 8 Sommer, B. 7,447.50
June 15 A 9 Madden, S. D 2,500.00
July 13 A 10 Waldman, J. IT 2,010.00
June 15 A 11 Bailey, T 2,509.00
June 15 A 12 Madden, S. D 2,750.00
July 13 A 13 Madden, & D 2,500.00
Sept. 13 A 14 Martin, J 4,250.00
Sept. 13 A 15 Pierca, A 7,600,00
Sept. 13 A 16 Legge, W. H 3,502.00
Sept. 13 A 19 Flinn, A. E 6,511.00
July 13 A 20 Simpson, T. C 12,250.00
June 15 A 21 Waldman, J. H 5,017.50
June IS...' A 22 WaJdman, J. H 2,025.00
July 13 A 23 McKay, Eobt 10,500.00
Jdy 13 A 24 Sawyer, B. } in WS 00
July 13 A 25 Sawyer, B. / L0,375.0(
Sept. 13 A 26 Pierca, A 20,600.00
July 13 A 27 Martel, G. E 4,150.00
July 13 A 28 Budd, A. T 4,050.00
July 13i A 2.9 Budd, A. T. 2,100.00
Sept 13 A 31 Macdonald, F. E 2,250.00
Sept. 13 A 33 Flinn, A. E 2,706.00
June 15 A 34 Budd, A. T 2,500.00
June 15 A 35 Budd, A. T 2,500.00
July 13 A 36 Martel, G. E 3,100.00
July 13 A 37 Guerin, J. M 5,000.00
Sept. 13 A 38 Sawyer, B 5,011.00
Sept. 13 A 39 Pierce, A 9,200.00
July 13 A 40 McNally, K T 4,000.00
June 15 A 41 Budd, A. T 2,500.00
June 15 A 42 Eoss, J. G. 5,100.00
Sept. 13 ' A 43 Flinn, A. E. . 2,706.00
Sept. 13 A 44 Jackson, A. H 2,655.00
Oct. 14 A 45 Webb, Geo. F 210..90
Oct. 14 A 17 Fleming, E. O. ]
Oct. 14 A 18 «
Oct. 14 A 30 « 11,505.00
Oct. 14 .A 32 "
Amount paid on locations A 6, A 26 and A 38, which were re-
sold, tenderers having failed to fulfil the conditions of sale 2,505.80
$20.9.968.70
38 APPENDIX No. 1. 1910
In the following year, 1909, particulars were given —
Q. — Just a moment. These reports were published each year previous to
any sale of land on the Gillies limit? A. — Yes, sir.
By Mr. McGARRY.
Q. — The prospective purchasers had an opportunity of seeing these re-
ports? A. — Yes, sir.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — I understood the other day there were verbal reports, in addition to
written reports ? A. — Yes, reports were made by Mr. Corkill and Prof. Miller,
who had charge of the mine.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland).
Q. — What was the nature of them? (A. — They were summaries.
Q. — Did they indicate a bonanza? A. — No. They were the reverse.
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q. — How much of the limit was explored? A. — At this time the whole
of the limit had not been surveyed, but it has all been surveyed since and a
map drawn.
Q. — How much has been prospected as a mining proposition? A.— The
whole has been prospected, but some parts much more thoroughly than the
remainder.
Q. — What portion has been prospected? A. — The northern apex of the
limit, almost up into the township of Golem an.
Q. — What area would that be ? A. — About seven or eight hundred acres
has been thoroughly prospected.
Q. — Prospected so that you would have a fair idea whether it was a
mining proposition or not? A. — Yes.
Q.' — You would not be able to say whether it was good or bad ? A. — No.
Anyone who is familiar with prospecting in Cobalt knows that the rock is
covered thickly, and it is a difficult task to prospect thoroughly without getting
to bed rock. And to do any trenching from the surface, one might have to
go five, ten, fifteen or twenty feet below the surface of the earth.
Q. — Was anybody allowed on the limit to prospect on their own account?
A.— No.
Q. — Were any regulations of the Department issued which would prevent
anyone going in? A. — Yes. There was an Order-in-Council.
Q. — Private parties were not allowed to go on and see what there was
in the limit? A.— No.
Q. — Do you know of anybody who did go on the limit? A. — I think
some parties did, notwithstanding the prohibition.
Q- — Did you bring down the list of sales ? A. — Yes, sir. I have here a
statement giving in detail all collections from the sale of mining lands in the
Gillies limit for the ten months ending October 31, 1.909, exclusive, which
includes the Provincial mine. This gives a list of all the claims which were
sold, the collections on account of which appear in the Public Accounts for the
period ending October 31, 1909. It gives the date of sale, the number of the
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particular location, the name of the purchaser and the amount which was paid
for the location.
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q. — Have you the other documents from the Department? A. — Do you
wish to see the tender or the transfer ?
Qj. — The transfer. A. — There is a transfer by Robert McKay, dated
July 6, 1909, to J. O'Brien and A. J. Young.
Q. — Is there any other transfer ? A. — That is all. O'Brien and Young
are the patentees.
Q. — Would any sale from O'Brien and Young appear on your records?
A. — ~No, not on our records. I think McKay was acting as solicitor for these
gentlemen.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
According to the one transfer, O'Brien and Young actually got the limit
for $10,500, McKay acting for them? A. — That is my understanding.
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q. — Have you anything in your Department to show what O'Brien sold
it for ? A. — ~No. The other transfer would be in the Local Master of Titles'
office at North Bay.
Q. — How many acres of the Gillies Limit does this include? A. —
Speaking roughly, I would say about 1,600 or 1,700 acres, for $209,000.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — These sales are subject to a ten per cent, royalty? A. — Yes, a ten
per cent, royalty is attached to all these sales.
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q. — What was the date of the first advertisement in regard to these sales ?
A.— April 22, 1909.
Q. — Was the advertisement by the Department ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Who had charge of the advertising for the Department ? A. — I had.
Q. — When did you receive instructions to advertise these ? A. — It would
be shortly before that date.
Q.' — You receive your instructions from the Minister? A. — Yes, sir.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — As a matter of fact, it was considered in Council. A. — The date of
the Order-in-Council is April 22.
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q- — This advertisement gave what time for the sale ? A. — Until June 15.
Q. — Where was the advertisement published? A. — In a considerable
number of newspapers. We also had a printed circular issued by the Depart-
ment and sent about.
Q- — What newspapers ? A. — I cannot give you a list now.
Q. — Can you furnish a list? A. — Yes.
By the CHAIRMAN.
Q- — You have a circular which you sent out to anybody applying for it?
A. — Yes.
40 APPENDIX No. 1. 1910
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q. — The Session ended on April 13, 190,9. It would therefore be nine
days after the close of the Session that you sent out the advertisements?
A. — Yes. We decided then to advertise, and the copies were sent out within
a few days.
By Mr. MCGARRY.
Q. — That was after you were instructed to advertise ? A. — My instruc-
tions were received, no doubt, immediately after the Order-in-Council was
passed.
Q. — There was no information given out as to the change in policy con-
templated until April 22 ? A. — I do not know anything about the policy of
the Government. I am not aware of any.
Q. — You are not aware of any information given out to the public or
anybody as to the change in the policy of the Government? A. — I could not
give any information, as I knew nothing whatever about the questions of
policy.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
;Q. — What is the area of the Gillies Limit? A. — 64,000 acres.
Q. — And you have sold how much? A. — About 1,600 acres, I think.
By Mr. McDouGAL. .
Q. — What information have you that the remaining lands in the Gillies
Limit are of no value as a mining proposition ?
Mr. CHAIRMAN: Is it right to give that information? Supposing that
the Government decided to put up more lands for sale, the answer to that ques-
tion might affect the sale.
WITNESS : We prepared a large map showing all the veins which were
found — every vein which had been discovered up to that time.
Q. — Have you any other map showing the veins which have not been sold ?
(Witness produced the map.)
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON (pointing).
Q- — These different names are mines? A. — Yes, or mining locations.
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q. — Do you know anything as to the extent of these veins ? Of the value
oFThem from the reports received ? A. — These veins would not be considered
as bonanzas.
Q- — What do these different colours mean? A. — Green is Keewatin
rock, salmon is diabase, and the brown refers to conglomerate.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q.— There is not much mineral in Keewatin? A. — It is not considered
the most favourable formation for veins, although there have been some very
good veins found in Keewatin. I would not wish to leave the impression with
the Committee that the whole of the Gillies Limit has been closely pros-
pected.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1.
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q. — There was a reduction in ore royalties recently. On what mines does
it apply ? How many mines have had their royalties reduced ? A. — I cannot
tell as to just what mines on which the royalties have been reduced or read-
justed. The T. & !N". 0. receives royalties from a number of mines, and on
some of these a readjustment has been made.
Q. — What reduction was made to the Chambers-Ferland ? A. — Twenty-
five per cent, of the value of the ore at the mouth of the mine was formerly
payable to the Government; by the new arrangement 25 per cent, of the net
profits, computed on the basis of the Supplementary Revenue Act of 1907.
The Chambers-Ferland lands were bought from M. J. O'Brien.
Q. — These are part of the lands upon which the Government set a royalty
of 25 per cent. ? A. — Yes.
Q. — The Chainbers-Ferland bought from the Government before O'Brien
made any claim? A.— I do not know, but they were all subject to the agree-
ment.
Q. — For part of the lands which the Government settled with O'Brien,
O'Brien was to pay a royalty of 25 per cent. ? A. — Yes.
Q. — By what amount did the Department reduce their royalty and not
reduce the royalty on the rest of them? A. — So far as these mines are con-
cerned, it was a matter for the consideration of the Government, and it was
provided in the agreement with O'Brien that if the mine could not be worked
with a profit they would no longer be obliged to work it. Representations were
made by the Chambers-Ferland Co. that they had no profit, and would be
unable to continue operations unless the matter of royalty was re-adjusted.
By Mr. Me CART.
Q. — How does that affect Chambers-Ferland? A. — The royalty was
25 per cent, at the mouth of the mine, but now it is 25 per cent, on the net
profits.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — Twenty-five per cent, at the mouth of the mine may not give a profit.
If they were making a profit we would benefit by that?
Mr. GIBSON : That is hard to calculate unless you know the quality of the
ore. If the ore is rich, 25 per cent, of the net profits would give us perhaps
almost as much as 25 per cent, of the value of the ore at the pit mouth. But.
if the ore is lean and low grade, 25 per cent, of the value of the ore might
entirely absorb the profit, and allow nothing at all for the owners of the mines.
They would not go on at all when they are not getting anything.
Q. — What was the reduction the Chambers-Ferland people asked for?
A. — I do not know exactly what they asked for.
Mr. McDouGAL: I would like to ask that M. J. O'Brien be brought
before the Committee to give evidence.
Mr. MCGARRY : He is in Mexico at present.
Mr. McDouGAL: Then I will ask for his partner. (Motion made.)
The witness was discharged and the Committee adjourned.
42 APPENDIX No. 1. 1910
COMMITTEE ROOM.
March 3rd, 1910.
W. S. Smith, of the Automobile & Supply Company, called, sworn and
examined.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Mr. Smith, you are the representative of the Automobile & Supply
Company, who sold certain cars to the Hydro-Electric Power Commission?
A. — I sold certain cars to the Hydro-Electric Power Commission, yes.
Q. — What car did you sell ? A. — I sold them three second-hand cars and
a new one.
Q. — What were the three second-hand cars? A. — One was an Olds-
mobile.
Q. — WThat number? A. — I do not know.
Q. — What kind of a car ? What colour, etc. ? A. — I do not know that
I could tell you that. As close as I can remember it was a dark car, that is,
it had a dark body.
Q. — There is a maker's number on each car? A. — There is when they
first come, but they don't always remain there.
Q. — Where are they placed? A. — The numbers are different on each
machine. The various manufacturers use different places. Machines manu-
factured under the Seldon patent are put on the engine, and others are put in
different places.
Q. — Is it a fact that each automobile has a different number? A. — Yes.
Q. — That is in addition to its registered number? A. — Yes.
Q. — Did you sell more than one Olds to the Hydro-Electric Power Com-
mission ? A. — Only one.
Q- — Who did you communicate with to sell that? A. — Principally with
Mr. Sothmann and Mr. Gaby.
Q- — Who is Mr. Gaby? A. — One of the employees whom I saw about
these machines.
Q. — Can you tell me when the examinations of these machines were made ?
A. — I cannot.
Q. — Were you present? iA. — I was.
Q- — You showed these machines on behalf of the company? A. — I did
and I didn't. I had a salesman at the time who took them out and demon-
strated the machine.
Q. — What was the price for this Olds? A. — About $1,600.
Q. — Cash ? A. — Yes, it was paid for in cash some time after the machine
was delivered.
Q. — How was it paid ? A. — By a cheque.
Q. — Have you the books showing the transfer ? A. — The charging of the
automobile to the Commission?
Q. — What books do you keep ? A. — A set of books, as other companies
do.
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Q. — Can you tell me the date of that sale ? A. — No.
Q.— The books will show that ? A.— Yes.
Q. — I suppose you keep a day book, do you? What books do you use?
A. — We use a loose-leaf ledger system.
Q. — Now what kind of an entry would you make in an ordinary sale of
this kind? A. — One Oldsmobile, second-hand, so much money, with the pur-
chaser's name.
Q.' — Will you tell me who you got this machine from? A. — I do not
know that this is a proper question to ask me. I am simply an employee of
the company.
Q. — Can you tell us, in the first place ? A. — I might be able to tell you,
but I will appeal to the Chair and ask whether this is a proper question to ask
where we buy our goods.
Mr. ELLIOTT: I submit, Mr. Chairman, that in dealing with second-
hand goods we should have the information where they got this machine. If
the right answer is not forthcoming, I have another way of getting it.
Mr. McGARRY : Mr. Chairman, I do not think we can compel the witness
to answer that question if he takes the position that he is an employee of the
company.
Mr. MUSGEOVE: Do you know where you got it from? A. — I do not
know that I can tell you that.
Mr. ELLIOTT : Do you object to give this information ? A. — Yes, with-
out consulting the company.
Mr. ELLIOTT: I will ask your ruling, Mr. Chairman, that without con-
sulting the company he should answer the question. I wish to find out where
they got this machine.
Mr. McDouGAL: Mr. Chairman, before you give your decision, I would
like to point out that my hon. friend is right. This is a Parliamentary inves-
tigation, and may compel a witness to answer anything under the sun. We
make the law of evidence. Here is an article which was sold to the Govern-
ment, and we would like to trace the article to the original, to the original ven-
dor. We have a perfect right to do so. If the Government buys an article this
Committee has a right to know what was the original selling price, and who
are the original vendors of it, and how old it was at the time it was sold. I
submit it is necessary to know the former vendor of the machine. The witness
might be asked the price that he paid for other machines.
The CHAIRMAN" : There are no doubt other ways of getting at it.
Mr. McDouGAL : But the witness has no privilege before this Committee.
Even in a law court he would be compelled to disclose this evidence. We have
full jurisdiction of any legal tribunal, and other powers in addition.
Mr. ELLIOTT : Before making a ruling, there is another question I would
like to ask the witness, which might do away with the question at hand. Will
you pledge your oath that this machine was owned by the Automobile & Sup-
ply Company? A. — I will.
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Q. — And the transfer passed through your books? A. — Yes.
Q. — How long did they own it? A. — I cannot say.
Q. — Would you say they owned it for a week? A. — I would say the
machines were there for a week. It was more likely three weeks though. If
you will allow me to explain, you will find in our warehouse so many machines
stored on some of the floors that there is not room enough to turn around, and
it would take a pretty good memory to carry all these in your head.
Q. — Never mind the memory. Can you tell me what I want from the
records in your books? A. — I have no books with me.
Q. — This transfer no doubt will show the price paid, whom it was paid to,
how long before the sale to the Hydro-Electric Power Commission ? A. — Yes,
a price was paid for the machine, yet I submit this evidence you are not
entitled to have.
The CHAIRMAN : As I said, the Committee will be glad to get any evidence
possible, and I do not want to be considered as standing in the way of what
we are here to do. The witness, if he chose to give the information, we would
be glad to receive it, but if he takes the position that the information is con-
fidential, and that there is a confidential relationship between him and his
employer, I think the Committee should respect that, as there are other ways of
getting the information.
Mr. ELLIOTT: Would you issue an order for the employer to come here
and answer?
Mr. McDouGAL : My contention is this. We have a perfect right to that
evidence^ Any employee who came here could set up the same argument. We
could ask him if he was an employee of that company, and he could say that
I cannot tell you anything.
The CHAIRMAN: You have your remedy. You can appeal against the
ruling of the Chair.
Mr. ELLIOTT: We are here investigating a public account. We are not
making a charge that anything improper was done, and I submit in all fair-
ness to the Hydro-Electric Power Commission that we should not leave our-
selves open to that Commission being subjected to grave suspicion of some-
thing being wrong, by this Committee protecting a witness against answering
questions, from answering a question which will enable us to get at the exact
transactions that have taken place in regard to these different machines. I
submit, in fairness to the Commission, that the question should be answered,
and the investigation be as thorough as possible.
The CHAIRMAN: I know the law about witnesses answering and giving
information, but when he takes the stand he does my ruling is that he should
be protected, and you can get the information in other ways.
MR. CLARKE (Northumberland.) : The position the Chairman takes is this
This witness is here, and says on account of his being an employee he does not
feel disposed to give information that his employer might object to without
receiving his consent. The Chairman thinks he ought to be protected, because
Edw. VII. APPENDIX Xo. 1. 45
we have the power to order his employer here, and his employer cannot get
away from any protection that the present witness may secure.
Mr. ELLIOTT: There is no use going further with this witness. Will
you make an order, Mr. Chairman, directing his employer to attend, and we
will leave this witness for the present.
Mr. McGrARRY: Mr. McDougal takes an unusual course. We can compel
the witness to answer, but every business man knows that it is not fair to
compel a witness to answer certain questions which he asks us not to press.
If you cannot get that particular information otherwise, then we might use
the powers which my learned friend indicated this morning.
The CHAIRMAN : I do not propose, so long as I am Chairman, to limit
the scope of this inquiry.
Upon the request of Mr. McDougal the Chairman submitted the following
question to the Committee: — "Shall the Chair be sustained in its ruling, that
this witness shall not be compelled to answer a question, on the ground that
he could not do so without the consent of his employer?"
The chair was sustained by a vote of 12 to 5.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Mr. Smith, what other machines did you sell besides the Olds, "No.
253 ? A. — We sold two Mitchells and a Pearce Arrow.
Q. — Were they both second-hand Mitchells? A. — Yes.
Q. — When were they sold ? A. — One was sold at the same time as the
Olds, and the other was sold not long ago.
Q. — Now the one that was sold at the same time as the Olds machine,
can you tell us at which price it was sold ? A. — About $1,600.
Q. — Both at the same price ? A. — Yes.
Q. — How old a machine was that? A. — I could not answer that ques-
tion definitely.
Q. — Do you feel, before consulting your employers, like giving us any
information as to where that machine came from? A. — As an employee
of the company I would not care to answer that question.
Q. — Do you know what became of it ? A. — In what way ?
Q. — What became of the Mitchell which was sold at the time? A. — It
was sold to the Hydro-Electric Power Commission.
Q. — Do you know anything about what happened later? A. — I believe
the machine is in constant use. Mr. Scott, who used the machine, came in to
me a few days ago. He said he was not familiar with the elaborately-built
machines, and drove a Mitchell car, and said that he wanted me, if possible,
to get another car to use on a transmission line that he is putting up in Winni-
peg. I have written to the Mitchell Company to ascertain if they could pro-
duce a second-hand car of that kind.
Q. — You sold four machines to the Commission after the month of April,
1909. About what time were these machines sold? A. — I have spoken about,
three machines which we sold; one was a roadster.
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Q. — There were two new machines and two second-hand ? A. — At first
there were two second-hand machines and one new one, and then a second-hand
Mitchell was bought in the fall of 1909.
Q. — Do you know whether it was sold to replace any machine that had
given out? A. — I do not know anything about that. I understand the Olds
was burned up. That is all I know.
The witness was discharged, and the Committee adjourned.
COMMITTEE ROOM.
March 4, 1910.
The CHAIKMAN : Before taking up the day's proceedings I desire to refer
to a ruling I made yesterday, to which exception was taken by Mr. McDougal
and some other members of the Committee, but which was sustained by the
Committee on division.
You will remember that Mr. Smith was asked where he purchased the
automobiles which he afterwards sold to the Hydro-Electric Commission. He
asked to be relieved from answering this question on the ground that it was
confidential information, which really belonged to his employers, and which
he felt he had no right to disclose without permission from them. He said
that he would consult his employers, and that if they did not object he was
prepared to give us all the information he had.
It is quite true that the Committee may have the right to insist upon an
answer to such a question. As I said yesterday, while I preside over this
Committee I intend to see that the widest latitude is given to examinations,
and that the fullest information possible is secured from every source, but I
do not think that the Committee should exercise its right in an arbitrary
manner. When Mr. Smith took the position that the answer to the question
would disclose information that legally belongs to his employers and might
jeopardise his position with the company, I felt that it would only be fair to
him that he should not be pressed to answer it, at any rate until he could con-
sult with his manager; moreover, such information could be got in another way.
Mr. McDougal, in taking exception to my ruling, stated that it was most
ridiculous and absurd. I have taken the trouble to look into the matter, and
I now want to inform the Committee that there is a precedent for carrying,
the ruling much further than I did.
If honourable members will refer to the Journals of the House for 1903
and read the evidence before the Public Accounts Committee with reference
to what is known as the Shannon timber deal, they will find there is ample
precedent for my action. A Mr. MacDermott, of South River, was being
examined, and was asked the price he paid one Shannon for a timber berth,
which Shannon . had secured from the Crown Lands Department. Hon.
George P. Graham, now Minister of Railways and Canals at Ottawa, was
then chairman of the Public Accounts Committee, and his ruling was that the
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1.
transaction between Shannon and MacDermott was a private transaction, with
which the committee had nothing to do, and was outside the scope of the in-
vestigation, and he held that the witness need not answer the question.
I make this statement for the benefit of the committee and of the press,
as some of the press have criticized and commented adversely upon my ruling
of yesterday, I am very glad to be able to state that we have Mr. Grant here
to-day. He is the manager of the Automobile & Supply Co., and will give
us what information he can. He says he knows very little about the trans-
action, as it was handled entirely by Mr. Smith. Further he says that Mr.
Smith is at liberty to give the committee any information he can, and that the
entire books of the company are open for inspection and examination. I pro-
pose, therefore, that the committee shall thoroughly examine this whole trans-
action in every letail, and that the fullest liberty shall be given to everybody
consistent with the proper conduct of the committee.
Mr. W. C. GRANT, manager of the Automobile & Supply Co., called,
sworn and examined.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — You are the manager of the Automobile & Supply Co? A. — Yes.
Q. — Who is president of the company? A. — George H. Gooderham.
Q. — He is a member of this House ? A. — As far as I know.
'Q. — Do you know anything about the sale of two second-hand automo-
biles to the Hydro-Electric Power Cmmission? A. — I know very little about
it.
Q. — Do you know anything about it? A. — The only thing I know about
it is that I saw the cars on the floor on the garage.
Q. — When ? A. — I cannot remember definitely the dates. It was some
time ago, but just when I could not say.
Q. — How long were they there before the sale to the Commission ? A. —
They were there probably two, three, or four weeks.
Q.— Both cars? A.— Both cars.
Q. — Can you tell us who conducted the purchase on behalf of the Com-
mission ? A. — No, I cannot tell you that.
Q. — Who conducted the sale on behalf of the Automobile & Supply Co. ?
A. — Mr. Smith.
Q. — Will you tell us the system of books you keep? A. — The Copeland-
Cihatterson loose leaf system.
Q. — If you buy an automobile what is the first entry made ? A. — They
are generally charged up on a slip. It goes to the office and is charged in the
books.
Q. — Have you your books with you ? A. — Yes. (Books produced.)
Q. — What becomes of the slip on which you enter the sale or purchase
of any automobile, say, for instance, a second-hand machine ? A. — In nine
out of ten cases there is no slip made for a second-hand machine. We simply
credit the same in the books.
Q. — The man from whom you buy? A. — Yes.
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Q. — Do you enter a separate account for him ? Does his name appear on
the books ? A. — If a man was to buy a car from us we would naturally extend
the item to his account.
Q. — No, no. You are buying a car from a man. A man comes along with
a second-hand car. What entries are made, and the order in which they are
made ? A. — Mr. Smith can answer that better than I can. He looks after that
and is in full charge of the selling end.
Q. — Give us, to the best of your knowledge, what occurs. A. — I have no
time to look after that, I do not know anything about it.
Q. — Do you look after the buying? A. — No.
Q. — Do you look after the books at all ? A. — No.
Q. — Would you be able to take the books and follow the entries ? A. —
Well, those who conducted the business might tell you where they got any cars.
Q. — How would you do it? A. — I would look up the number of their
order.
Q. — From this book tell me the first entry relating to Olds number 253.
That is the first book there would be an entry in? A. — There were two cars
bought for $3,250.
The Chairman — That is the price of the two cars? A. — Yes.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Does that mean they were both bought together, through the same
person ? A. — Yefls.
. Q. — W7ho was the person from whom they were bought ? A. — Mr. Smith
will tell you that.
Q. — Can you tell from your books ? A. — No.
Q. — Have you any books which will show us from whom these cars were
purchased ? A. — Not that I know.
Q. — Then do I understand you to say that from your books you cannot
trace where these cars came from? A. — No.
Q. — -Do you know anything about them ? A.' — No.
Q. — You have no means at all of stating where these cars came from?
A. — Only from memory.
Q. — Have you any memory in regard to these cars? A. — I had nothing
to do with these cars nor the purchasing of them.
Q. — Then you remember nothing? A. — No.
Q. — And your books do not help you a bit ? A.- — No.
Q. — Now supposing you bought these cars from John Jones, does John
Jones' name appear in your books at any place? A. — No.
Q. — You have no ledger account with John Jones ? A. — No.
Q. — Do you know whether he was paid or not? A. — The check book
shows who paid for the cars.
Q. — Have you the cheque book with you in regard to these two cars ? A.—
Yes. (Cheque book produced.)
Q.' — This is the entry with regard to both cars, cheque number A 13,-
885, May 18, 1900, P. W. Sothmann, $3,250?— 115? A.— Yes.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 49
Q. — What does 115 refer to? A. — It is most likely a ledger number. The
bookkeeper could explain that. It is something I know nothing about.
Q. — There is an entry here, May, 18, by cash, folio 115, $3,250. That is
the entry relating to these machines ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Where is folio 115 ? A. — That is something I do not know anything
about.
Q. — There is no mark 115 on this ? A. — I can get it and explain it if you
wish.
Q. — Have you the book here ? A. — No, I will have to look it up.
Q. — You received your subpoena calling for all books and entries covering
these machines ? A. — Yes.
The CHAIRMAN : We will get anybody you want.
That is all the information you can give ? A. — Well I have seen the chief
two or three times.
Q. — Who is he ? A. — He is a member of the Hydro-Electric Power Com-
mission.
Q. — And he is the man from whom you purchased these two machines
which you afterwards sold back to the Hydro-Electric Power Commission?
A.— Yes.
By Mr. Me GABBY.
Q. — You saw these two machines? A. — Yes.
Q. — Have you any idea as to their value at that time ? A. — Yes.
Q. — What would you say as to the value when you sold them ? A. — They
were good value.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — You would not give anything else but good value ? A. — If they were
not good value I would not have sold them at that price.
Q. — What did you pay Mr. Sothmann ? A. — The amount which appears
•on the cheque.
Q. — Did you pay any commission ? A. — "No.
Q. — How long did you keep those machines? A.- — We had them for two
or three weeks.
Q. — Did you do any repairs during that time? A. — "No.
Q. — And showed them to the man who was selling them to you? And
who was also the agent of the buyer ? A. — Yes, we demonstrated the machines.
Q. — The order for the machines would state whom he represented ? A. —
Yes.
Q. — That is, who Mr. Sothmann represented ? A. — Yes.
Q. — And you showed him points about his own machine? A. — Yes.
Q. — You did all this free ? A. — We did that for this reason, we expected
to sell a Pearce Arrow car, and we wanted to get an opportunity to show that
'the car would do the work.
Q. — And you did all this free to get the sale of the Pearce car ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Where is the entry relating to the Pearce car ? A. — Page 29 $5 -
•307.47.
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Q. — That was sold on May 31 ? A. — Yes..
<J. Had you any correspondence with them before this sale? A. — No.
' Q. The transaction for the $3,250 was completed eleven days before the
{transaction of $5,307.47 ? A.— According to the books, that is about the time.
Q. — Can you tell us whether the deals were completed at the same time?
!A. — X"o, I cannot.
Q. — Is this $5,307 the price at which you would sell other Pearce Arrow
cars ? A. — vN"o, it is a price to the Hydro-Electric Power Commission.
Q. — Had you sold any other Pearce Arrow cars? A. — Yes.
Q. — At what prices ? A. — After I look through the book I could probably
see some.
Witness was discharged.
Mr. W. S. SMITH, recalled, and examined.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Mr. Smith, you are the purchaser and salesman of the Automobile
& Supply Co. of which Mr. Grant is manager ? A. — In order that the com-
mittee may understand the whole circumstance, at one time I organized the
^company, and for some three years was manager. Then I left the company
rand Mr. Grant was put in as manager. I was away four months, and then
went back to them on the understanding that I was not to take the responsi-
bility of the management, and I might say that Mr. Grant knew nothing about
the deal. He is responsible only for the finances of the company. He signs the
cheques, but so far as the details of the office are concerned Mr. Grant knows
very little about this transaction.
Q. — Tell us what you know about it. A. — What do you want to know ?
Q. — I want to know all thiat transpired in regard to the purchase of these
machines. A. — If you ask the questions I will endeavor to answer them.
Q. — Who did you buy the Oldsmobile, number 253, from? A. — P. W.
Sothmann.
Q. — That is the engineer of the Hydro-Electric Commission? A. — Yes.
Q.— What price did you pay for the Olds? A.— $1,625.
Q. — Do you remember what price you said yesterday morning? A.' —
About $1,600.
Q. — So that was not correct? A. — I said about $1,600.
Q. — And exactly the same price for the other ? A. — I believe it was.
Q. — Did you purchase both of these cars at the same time? A. — I did.
Q. — From Mr. Sothmann ? A. — I did.
Q. — What was the first negotiations you had with him or anybody else
in regard to the purchase of these cars, or either of them? A. — As far as I
know he told the Commission would be wanting some cars.
Q- — Do you know when that was ? A: — I could not give you the date.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 51
Q. — When was the next interview ?
The CHAIRMAN: These are with reference to the negotiations for the
sale of these machines to the Commission ?
Mr. ELLIOTT : No, to the Automobile & Supply Co. A. — Mr. Sothmann
came to me and told me he had two cars that he would like to sell.
Q. — That was before the time he told you that the Commission would
want some cars? A. — Well, I cannot say.
Q. — When was that? A. — I cannot tell. Mr. Sothmann was in the
habit of coming in and out and I cannot remember the details.
Q. — Can you tell us what was the first thing between you and him in re-
gard to the purchase by you of these cars? A.> — I cannot tell you. I know
tthat I bought the cars from him.
Q. — How many interviews did you have before you bought them? A. — I
cannot answer that.
Q. — Have you any idea ? A. — I might have seen Mr. Sothmann and Mr.
Gaby fa half a dozen times.
Q.' — Who is Mr Gaby? A. — One of the assistant engineers.
Q. — Did the two gentlemen come together ? A. — Sometimes, yes.
Q. — Did you have any correspondence in regard to these cars ? A. — In
connection with these two cars ?
Q. — Yes. A. — None whatever.
Q. — Tell us what else took place. A. — Well, Mr. Sothmann came in and
said he had two oars.
Q.' — When was that ? A. — I think it was two or three wreeks before the
sale took place. He told me he had two machines that he wanted to sell and
asked me if I would take them off his hands. He sent the cars in and I put a
price on them, and demonstrated them. Both Mr. Sothmann and Mr. Gaby
tested the cars, and I think Mr. Gaby drove the machines to Hamilton and back.
Q. — Who drove with them to Hamilton ? A. — Mr. Leggatt was with Mr.
Gaby in the car at the time.
Q. — That was before the purchase? A. — Yes. Mr. Sothmann and I
valued the cars.
Q. — At what price ? A.- — At the price we took them over at.
Q. — How long was that before the deal was closed ? A. — I cannot tell.
Q. — As nearly as you can. A. — It was some time before they bought the
machines.
Q. — -Would you say it was three weeks ? A. — It might have been three
weeks, it might have been two months. From the first time I spoke to Mr.
Sothmann it was quite a time before the machines came in.
Q. — When you first saw them did you value them? A. — when I first
saw them I told them what I thought the machines were worth.
Q. — How long was it after you valued the machines that your valuation
was accepted ? A. — Do you mean when the sale was consummated ?
Q. — Yes. A. — I cannot tell you.
Q. — When was the deal consummated ? A. — I cannot say exactly.
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Q. — Have you nothing in your books to show that? A. — No.
Q. — Your cheque was dated May 18, 1909 ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Have you nothing to show when they were sold to the Hydro-Electric ?
A. — Only a verbal agreement was made.
Q. — You have nothing whatever to show? A. — I really cannot tell you
when the sale was made.
Q. — Who was it made through? A. — Mr. Sothmann.
Q.< — Then Mr. Sothmann sold the cars to you, and bought them back
again? A. — Mr. Sothmann and Mr. Gaby.
Q. — He gave you the cheque in payment for the cars ? A. — It was sent
to me by Mr. Sothmann.
Q. — What day was it? A. — It was the same day.
Q. — The whole was one deal? A. — Not necessarily.
Q. — Two deals in one day? A. — The money w>as received by the Auto-
mobile & Supply Co. and Mr. Sothmann received a cheque on his own sale
apparently about the same time.
Q. — Then you bought the cars from Mr. Sothmann and he decided to
take it on behalf of the Commission ? A. — With Mr. Gaby.
Q. — I understood you to say yesterday morning Mr. Sothman. A. — Mr.
Gaby was with him when the purchase was made.
Q. — Do you know who owned these two second-hand automobiles before
they were sold to the Automobile & Supply Co. ? A. — I understand since that
one was owned by Mr. Sothman and the other by J. F. Beck, London.
Q. — Do you know Mr. J. F. Beck ? A. — I understand he is a brother of
the chairman of the Commission.
Q. — How long w>as it that these cars were tested by the representatives
of the Commission before they decided to take them? A. — I do not know.
The cars were thoroughly tested and driven by Mr. Leggatt. I understood they
had gone to Hamilton along the right-of-way, and back.
Q. — Were these machines bought before they were tested? A. — No, sir.
Q. — Were the machines put in shape before they were sold ? A. — I under-
stand yes.
Q. — Who put them in shape ? A. — I do not know.
Q. — Well now, was the deal completed before the cheque was paid ? A.—
Verbally, yes.
Q. — H6w long before ? A. — I cannot tell you.
The CHAIRMAN: In view of what has come out I think we should call
Mr. Sothmann.
Q. — Can you tell us the year that the Olds car was made? A. — 1906,
I believe.
Q. — What would be the price now? A. — The price of the car was $2,-
400 stripped, that is, without any equipment.
Q.— New in 1906? A.— In 1906.
Q. — What did this car have on it at the time of the deal ? A. — At the
time that this car came in?
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Q. — At the time of the deal between Sothmann and you and you and
Sothmann. A. — As close as I dan remember it had a top, a glass front, and
a magneto.
Q. — What would be the value of the car at that time ? A. — What would
be the value of this car ?
Q. — Yes. A. — The top is worth from $125 to $150.
Q. — And the other equipment? A. — The glass front from $40 to $60,
and a speedometer from $45 to $125.
By Mr. McDouGAL.
Q. — What was on the car ? A. — I cannot tell you.
Q. — What would be the price of this car bought new? A. — I am trying
to give it to you. The top would be worth $125, the glass front complete would
be worth $50, the speedometer from $40 to $125, say $75 for an average, a
magneto put on the car in 1906 would cost about $150 to $200, I would say
about $200 including the cost of putting it on.
Q. — Were these attachments all on the car ? A. — As far as I can remem-
ber they were. The car was completely equipped.
The CHAIRMAN.
Q. — That would be about $2,900. A. — A little more than that, because
there is the cost of putting on the fixtures.
Q. — What year was the Mitchell made? A. — I think it was made in
1907.
Q. — It would be worth about how much now? A. — It would be worth
$2,600 without equipment.
Q. — The same figures would apply as in the case of the Olds? A — Yes.
Q. — It was not in as good repair as the other machines ? A. — I would
not like to say that. I would say they were in about the same state or repair.
Q. — Do you know which of these cars blew up ? A. — Neither one blew up.
Q. — Do you remember telling us yesterday about some second-hand car
that blew up ? A. — No, sir.
K}. — Then burned? A. — That is different altogether. I heard that one
was burnt, the Oldsmobile.
Q. — You spoke about the cars being fixed. What did you mean by that?
A. — Put in shape. I do not know anything about that.
Q. — What was considered necessary to be done ? A. — I do not know.
Q. — Was it done at the garage ? A. — I do not know.
Q. — Where was it done? A.— I do not know.
Q. — What does it mean, then, when you say they were kept until they
were put in shape? A. — They were kept in the warehouse for some time,
and then taken away and put in shape. The Olds was taken. I think, to the
Olds warerooms to have the work done.
Q. — Who paid for the repairs? A. — I do not know.
Q. — Did you pay for the repairs? A. — There was nothing to do.
APPENDIX Xo. 1. 1910
Q. — So that you really had nothing to do with it? A. — We had the
machines in our place, paid for them, arid then turned them over to Mr.
Sothmann.
Q. — And Mr. Sothmann bought them for the Commission? A. — Yes.
Q. — Can you give the particulars of folio 115 ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Have you them here ? A. — No.
Q. — Perhaps you will bring them up ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Can you find particulars of other Pearce Arrow cars which you sold
last year and the prices ? A. — Can I find the prices ?
Q. — Can you give me a list of the Pearce Arrow cars sold last year?
A. — Yes, I can give you a list of the Pearce Arrow cars sold last year. We
have a standard price* on the machine, which is governed by the amount of
discount we receive on the other side. A machine on which we get 25 per cent,
off we add a certain percentage to, the same as if we only get 20 per cent, off
we only add a certain percentage to. On other machines we add 30 per cent.
Q. — There was no commission paid at all? A. — None whatever.
Q. — How long would it take to get a list of the sales of Pearce Arrows
last year ? 'A. — Sales for Canada ?
The CHAIKMAN : Do you want a complete list ?
Q. — I would like to get a list of the sales for last year. A. — I would
have to look that up.
Q. — A car was sold to the Commission in the fall. Did you sell that car ?
A.— Yes.
Q.— What was it? A.— A Mitchell.
Q. — What was the date of that sale ? A. — It is pretty hard to give you
the details of that sale, for this reason, that I notice on the order for the
Pearce Arrow that I could not tell whether the date was that on which the
car was paid for or the date on which the sale was made. I see that the order
for the Mitchell is dated November 30, 1909.
Q. — What price did you sell the Mitchell for? A. — $1,570, equipped.
Q. — How old was that car ? A. — 1908.
Q- — Was it the same kind of car as was sold in the spring? A. — It cer-
tainly was not. It was a smaller one, a sort of a runabout, with a capacity
for only two passengers. The other car would carry five.
Q- — Who did you get it from ? A. — The Mitchell Motor Car Company.
Q- — And that transfer took place about November 30? A. — Yes.
Q. — Did you make anything on that sale ? A.— I do not think we did.
Q- — You do not think you did ? A. — I do not think we miade a dollar.
I may tell you that when we bought that machine it was not equipped as we
thought would give satisfaction, so we undertook to equip the car with a mag-
neto which was not regularly on the machine, a wind shield, and a pet of cur-
teins. We put this equipment on the machine, and by the time we got through
I do not think we made a cent.
Q.— Is Mr. Gaby harder to suit than Mr. Sothmann ? A.— Mr. Gaby is
a little harder on the machine than Mr. Sothmann.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 55
Q. — Is he hard, or is Mr. Sothmann hard? A. — I heard no complaints.
Q. — As a general thing you just handled these second-hand machines for
the love of the business ? A. — We do not even get that out of it.
Q. — You have to do jour repairs? A. — We do a whole lot of second-
hand work on which we lose money.
By the CHAIRMAN.
Q. — For the sake of the new business ? A. — For the sake of the new
business.
By Mr. McGAEBY.
Q. — Mr. Sothmann simply came in to you and left his two machines in
the garage? A. — No, Mr. Sothmann came in and had the machines sent in
afterwards.
Q. — He had a conversation with you, in which he said he wished to dis-
pose of these machines ? A. — He said he had them for sale.
Q. — Did he tell you he was not able to keep them at that time ? A. — No,
I do not remember that.
Q. — Did you understand from his conversation that they were going to
be turned over to the Hydro-Electric Power Commission ? A. — I think I did.
Q. — Did you understand that he wished to have a thorough inspection
before the transaction took place ? A. — I did.
Q. — Did you inspect them after they were brought in? A. — I did.
Q. — Were they thoroughly examined by Mr. Gaby? A. — Yes.
Q. — Mr. Gaby made a thorough examination? A. — Yes.
Q. — Mr. Gaby is a man who understood something about these cars ?
A.— Yes.
Q. — After he made the examination was he satisfied with them?
A.— Yes.
Q. — He made an examination of both cars ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Mr. Smith, you have given us a statement that you examined both
cars and valued them yourself? A. — I did.
Q.' — What did you say as to the value of these two cars ? A. — The cars,
when they were turned over to the Commission, were good value.
Q. — At what sum? A. — At the price paid.
Q. — It frequently happens that you have to purchase second-hand cars?
A. — We have to do that all the time.
Q. — With reference to the Pierce Arrow car you sold them for $5,370,
have you sold any other Pierce Arrow cars to other persons ? A. — Yes. We
sold some Pierce Arrow cars last year.
Q. — You had this sale in mind at the time the second-hand machines were
disposed of? A. — Yes.
Q. — Is the price charged for the Pierce Arrow lower than you charge
other persons? A. — It is lower.
Q. — By reason of the fact that you sold this machine to the Commission
and turned over the machines of Mr. Sothmann's, you did not charge any com-
mission ? A. — No, sir.
56 APPEXDIX Xo. 1. 1910
Q. — What amount did you pay in commission in connection with the
transaction of the purchase of the two automobiles? A. — Nothing.
Q. — And there is nothing to hide in connection with the whole transac-
tion? A. — Absolutely nothing.
Q. — And nothing exists with Mr. Sothmann or any other employee of the
Hydro-Electric Power Commission? A. — Nothing.
Q. — From your understanding with Mr. Sothmann when you were buy-
ing these machines you took them into stock in the regular way of business ?
A.— Yes.
Q. — And that arrangement was carried out upon the receipt of a cheque
and the giving of one the same day ? A. — Yes.
Q. — How long was it before the date you received the cheque that you
first consummated the bargain with Mr. Sothmann? A. — I could not say
exactly, probably two or three weeks.
Q. — As I understand it, between the time you first spoke to Mr. Sothmann
and the time you received a cheque from the Commission, repairs were made
to the machine ? A. — Yes.
Q. — These repairs did not cost your company anything? A. — No.
By the CHAIRMAN.
Q. — There was a bona fide purchase from Mr. Sothmann before you made
any attempt to sell the machines ? A. — I agreed to take the cars over.
Q. — I understood from you that your reason for taking these cars over
from Mr. Sothmann and turning them over to the Commission at the same
price you paid for them was with the view of getting other business?' A. — I
understood the Commission were buying a number of cars, and T wanted to
get some of the business, and so I made this deal.
Q. — The same question follows with regard to the Pierce Arrow car.
You sold that lower to the Commission than you sold to others? A. — I
wanted to see a Pierce Arrow car on that work, because I felt that the car was
particularly suited for the heavy work it was called upon to perform.
Q- — You wanted to put that car on the work to demonstrate that it was
fitted for work of that nature? A. — Yes.
Q- — You have a uniform price for these Pierce Arrow cars A. — There
is no concern in Toronto that has a uniform price for automobiles.
Q. — Did I understand you to say that? A. — I said that we had a
uniform price by adding a certain percentage to what we were allowed on the
other side.
By Mr. McEwiNG.
Q- — Was it distinctly understood when you took these cars over that they
were to be disposed of to the Commission ? A. — Mr. Sothmann said he had
two machines that he wished to dispose of. He brought them in, and I under-
stood that the cars were to be sold to the Commission.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q- — Did you know that Mr. Sothmann was chief engineer of the Com-
mission ? A. — I knew he was chief engineer.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 57
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — Did he say that it would look better for the sale to be made through
you than through him? A. — Yes.
Mr. ERIPP : The whole point to the question is this, when the Commission
were buying these cars were they dealing with Sothmann or anybody else.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON : Except this, that this company came into the matter
and inspected the machines.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Have you any correspondence with the Commission with relation to
these machines ? A. — We had specifications only.
By Hon. Mr. REAUME.
Q. — Have .you sold a Pierce Arrow car like that which was sold to the
Commission at a lower price than they paid ? A. — I do not think we ever sold
a car as low as that.
Q. — It was a cash sale ? A. — It was about four months before we got our
cheque.
By Mr. McCART.
Q. — You sold the Pierce Arrow as an advertisement ? A. — I sold it that
way because I thought it would stand up for the work.
By the CHAIRMAN.
Q. — Did you know anybody in the transaction except Mr. Sothmann?
A.— No.
The witness was discharged.
Mr. P. W. SOTHMANX, called, sworn and examined.
By Mr. Me GARRY.
Q. — You are chief engineer of the Hydro-Electric Power Commission?
A.— Yes.
Q. — And you were in the spring of 1909 ? A. — Yes.
Q. — You sold two cars to the Automobile & Supply Company, to Mr.
Smith ? A.— Exactly.
Q. — One of these cars you got from Mr. J. E. Beck, of London,?
A.— Yes.
Q. — About how long before the sale took place? A.« — About three or
three and a half months, I cannot tell for sure.
Q. — How much did you pay for that machine? A. — To J. E. Beck?
Q.— Yes. A. — About $1,500.
Q. — Subsequent to that did you expend any money in repairs on that car ?
A. — I suppose altogether about $400 to $450.
*Q. — Did you use the car that you bought from Mr. Beck? A. — No, it
was in the winter time.
Q. — You had a car of your own? A. — Yes.
Q.— It was an Olds? A.— Yes.
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Q. — What did that car cost you ? A. — $1,300.
Q. — Did you subsequently equip it? A. — Yes.
Q. — It was a second-hand car? A. — Yes.
Q. — What did you do to the car ? A. — I put in new cylinders, costing
about $400; new carburetors, $18 ; new tires, and had the old ones repaired.
In fact, I put the machine in first-class condition.
Q. — Did you put a. hood on the car? A. — A glass front and a top.
Q. — How much did the repairs cost you altogether ? A. — About $400 or
$450, maybe slightly more, I am not absolutely sure. Besides that I gave my
time.
Q. — How long did you have the car before you sold it to the Automobile
Company? A.1 — I think I bought it in April, 1908.
Q. — And you used it during the summer and fall ? A. — Ninety per cent.
of the use I gave it was for the Commission. The Commission did not have
any money for motor cars, and as I could not use the horses to get over the
ground fast enough, as I was out day and night, I bought the automobile.
Q. — Then you bought it for the purpose of using it for the Commission
and paid for it out of your own pocket ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Subsequently, in the spring of 1909, the Commission had estimates
passed providing for the purchase of a number of cars? A. — Yes.
Q. — Did they have the money then ? A. — The money was paid for them.
Q. — You went to Mr. Smith, of the Motor Company ? A. — Yes. I told
him that I had two cars I wanted to sell, as these cars were not built for long-
distance travelling, and I would want a heavier car. Nothing else was said.
Q. — Did you tell Mr. Smith that the Commission wanted to buy two such
cars as you were selling? A. — Not at that time.
Q. — Did you tell him that before the money passed between you that the
Commission would buy them back? A.< — I could not say so then.
Q. — Before the money was paid there was an agreement that you would
receive $3,200 for these cars? A. — Yes.
Q. — Before the money had passed was it not understood that the Com-
mission was to purchase these cars which you were selling? A. — I said the
Commission would be wanting some cars.
Q. — Did you tell them that these two cars would be suitable to the Com-
mission? A.- — I told him they were quite suitable.
Q. — When he took these two cars was the price fixed? A. — I told him
to value them himself.
Q. — Did Mr. Smith value them ? A. — Mr. Smith or Mr. Grant.
Q. — Did they place a value on them ? And what was that value ? A. — In
the condition in which I turned them over?
Q.— Yes. A.— $3,250 for the two cars.
Q- — The Commission purchased these same two cars at that same figure ?
A.— Yes.
Q. — And you knew they were buying them? A. — Yes.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX Xo. 1. 59
Q. — Was an examination of these machines made at the time they were
taken over by the Commission? A. — We tried them out from Hamilton to
Toronto.
Q. — Who took these cars to Hamilton ? A. — Mr. Gaby.
Q. — Mr. Gaby took these cars and examined them ? A. — Yes, with one
of the engineers and a driver from the Automobile & Supply Company.
Q. — Mr. Gaby made a report to the Commission? A. — 2s"o, to me.
Q. — Did you make a report to the Commission? A. — I made a recom-
mendation that we decide upon these two cars among six, eight or ten others.
It was at a time that we expected to buy a number of cars. I told Mr. Gaby
to investigate a number of cars and to take one of his engineers, try them, and
report. We asked the different automobile dealers, and each one of them sub-
mitted a car and our engineers tested them. We selected certaini cars and
made a recommendation.
Q. — I understand your engineers examined ten or twelve cars. A. — No,
about six or eight.
Q. — These cars were from the different motor companies ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Were they second-hand cars? A.- — Second-hand cars and new cars.
Q. — Did the engineer report in writing or verbally ? A. — I do not think
there were any written reports.
Q. — Did they recommend these two cars that you sold to the Motor Com-
pany ? A.- — Yes.
Q. — At what prices? A. — We found that the Automobile Supply Com-
pany were asking $3,250. •" I said that was reasonable.
Q. — They recommended the purchase of these two cars? A. — Yes.
Q. — In payment the Commission sent a cheque to Mr. Grant? A. — Yes.
Q. — What date did you receive a cheque from the Automobile Company?
A. — The same day.
Q. — I suppose you had nothing to do with the cheques ? lA. — ~No.
Q. — But you received a cheque for $3,250? A.' — Yes.
Q. — Did any member of the Commission know anything about your
having sold these cars to the Motor Company before they were purchased by
the Commission? A. — ~No. On my recommendation I put down the names
of the different second-hand cars. I think there were one or two other dealers.
I recommended one car more than the Commission would agree to purchase.
Q. — You made your recommendation in writing ? A. — Yes, for five cars.
Q. — And of these the Commission purchased how many? A. — Four.
Q.— And out of these there were two that you had sold ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Did any member of the Commission know before the purchase of
these two cars that they originally belonged to you ? A. — "Not to my knowl-
edge.
Q. — So far as you are aware you never told any member of the Com-
mission ? A. — No.
60 APPENDIX STo. 1. 1910
Q. — Did any member of the Commission, so far as you know, have any
knowledge of the facts that one of these cars originally belonged to Mr. J. F.
Beck, of London? A. — I never told them.
By the CHAIRMAN.
Q. — Did you ask for tenders? A, — Yes.
Q. — You asked for tenders from the different firms doing business?
A. — Yes, we had twelve tenders.
Q. — Did you examine any Mitchell cars in other places as well as the
Automobile & Supply Co. ? A. — Yes, I think at Hyslop's. We decided on the
second-hand car manufactured by this company. It was reasonable and in
good shape.
Q. — You had had experience with these machines ? You bought them
and had run them yourself? !A. — Yes.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
I understood you to say that you paid $1,500 to Mr. J. F. Beck for his
car ? A.— Yes.
Q. — Did you pay any commission out of the $1,750 that was left after
you paid Mr. Beck his $1,500? That is, did you pay any other person?
A.— No.
By the CHAIRMAN.
Q. — You kept the whole amount ? A. — I did not divide it with anybody.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — What is your position at the present time with the Hydro-Electric
Power Commission? A. — Chief engineer.
Q.— When did you first engage with them? A. — September, 1906.
Q. — By whom were you engaged ? A. — By the Commission.
Q. — Who saw you ? A. — I think I saw Mr. Cecil B. Smith.
Q- — Anybody else ? A. — I do not know. A letter was sent to me by him.
Q. — Where were you before that? A. — I was consulting engineer in
New York.
Q. — What was the salary they engaged you at at that time? A. — The
salary for -the first year was to be $3,500.
Q- — And you were kept at that until when ? A. — Until September, 1907.
Q. — And what about expenses? A. — Expenses all paid.
Q. — And up till September you did not use an automobile at all?
A.— No.
Q. — Was there any change in your arrangements after that? Did you
get the same salary for the second year ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Did you get an automobile that year? A.> — In June or July.
Q.' — What kind was that ? A. — It was an Olds car.
Q.— Before you got the automobile you charged your expenses to the
Commission ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Did you charge any expenses for the car? A. — No, I do not think
I did.
Q. — Not for upkeep or anything else? A. — Not one cent.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX Xo. 1. 61
Q. — There is an item of $15,176.61 in the Public Accounts for auto-
mobiles. Does anything appear in that for the running or upkeep of your
automobile ? A. — I do not think .so. Not that I remember.
Q. — Did you, before you got the automobile, speak to the Commission
about buying some? A. — No, I did not point it out to the Commission. I
said our travelling was heavy, and we should have automobiles because we
travelled long distances.
Q. — And they gave you to understand that they would buy some later,
after they had told you they had no money to buy them at present ? A. — No.
Q. — Your salary was at $3,500 per year until September, 1908 ?
A. — Yes, I think so.
Q'.' — Was there any change then ? When did you get a raise ? A. — As
soon as we started construction. I think in January, 1909.
Q. — What was your salary raised to? A. — $6,000 and expenses.
Q. — Did you go away in the early part of 1909 ? A. — Yes, I went to
Europe some time in May, about the end of the month.
Q. — When did you come back ? A. — I think in the early part of July.
Q. — Who went with you ? A. — Mr. Mansfeldt, one of my assistants.
Q. — Do you know what your expenses were ? A. — My assistant was over
before I left Toronto, for the reason that I could not spare much time. He
was instructed to see several manufacturers.
Q. — Did you put in an itemized bill for your expenses ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Can you give an idea of what it amounted to? A. — About $1,800,
that was for my assistant and myself.
Q. — There is a bill for $2,885.28, travelling expenses to Europe. A. — I
spent about $1,800, but I paid all the expenses of my assistant for six weeks.
I cannot say about the balance. The other engineer was there some months
before me.
Q. — You first bought your automobile in July, 1908? A. — Yes.
Q. — What was it, an Olds? A. — Yes.
Q. — Did you ever own a Rambler ? A. — Yes. I went to the Automobile
& Supply Co., and said I wanted a car, and tried a Rambler. I paid $300
down on it.
Q. — How long did you keep the Rambler? A. — About fourteen days.
Q. — What price were you to pay for it? A. — $625.
Q. — You got it about April, 1908 ? A. — I could not say.
Q. — Well, you took out a permit for it on April 22, 1908. A. — You may
be right.
Q- — Did you take out a permit for any other machine? A. — Yes, for
the Olds.
Q- — Will you swear you never took out a permit for any other car but
the Rambler ? A. — I do not remember. I had a permit from the office of the
Automobile & Supply Company. It may have been a transfer from the
Rambler.
62 APPENDIX No. 1. 1910
Q. — When did you pay for the Mitchell? A. — About the end of May,
1909.
Q. — You paid for it after it was sold to the Commission? A. — Yes.
Q. — Have you any entries showing when you paid for it? A. — Eo.
Q. — Was it paid for by cheque or cash ? A. — I sent them a cheque.
Q. — The cheque would be returned. Can you get that cheque? A. — I
think so.
Q. — You sent that cheque to Mr. J. F. Beck, London. A. — Yes.
Q.— For how much ? A.— $1,500.
Q. — It was in pretty good shape when you got it? A. — No, it was a
first-class car, but the carburetor was not right.
Q. — But it was a good car when you sold it ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Tell us what you did to the car ? A. — I got new tires and fixed it up
properly.
Q. — What did you pay for them ? A. — I do not know.
Q.-r-Where did you get them? A. — From a firm who makes the tires.
Q. — How much did you pay for the repairing of the old tires? A. — I
could not say.
Q. — What else did you get done ? A. — I put on a glass front.
Q. — Did you pay anybody else in connection with this machine?
A. — Yes, Mr. Mansfeldt, my assistant.
Q. — How much did you pay him ? A. — I could not say. I asked Mm
to help me on Saturdays.
Q.^Did you pay him for that ? A. — I could not say.
Q. — Have you paid anybody else? A. — I paid my machinist.
Q. — But you paid Mr. Mansfeldt nothing? A. — I do not know.
Q.' — Did you pay anything for the carburetor? A. — I paid my
machinist.
Q. — How much did you pay for the carburetor? A. — $18. It was
from the Reo firm.
Q.- — What else did you do ? A. — I put on a top.
Q. — What was the machinist's name? A. — I do not know.
Q. — What did you pay him? A. — $15 a week.
Q. — For how many weeks? A. — I had him for several weeks.
Q. — Were you devoting your whole time to the Mitchell ? A. — We were
working on both machines.
Q. — Do you know the name of your machinist ? A. — I only know his
first name, which was George.
Q. — And you paid him by cheque or cash? A. — By cash.
Q. — How long was he with you? A. — I cannot say; some time up to
six months. I do not know really.
Q. — Did you buy anything else for the machine? A. — A number of
pins.
By the CHAIRMAN.
Q. — You mean small bolts? A. — Yes.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX Xo. 1. ' G3
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
They did not cost you much ? A.« — Some as high as $2 each.
Q. — Did you pay out anything else in connection with these machines?
A. — I cannot remember.
Q. — Now when you decided to sell these machines you wanted all you
could get ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Did you have other offers for these machines? A. — Yes, I had a
number of offers. I could have sold them for more than that. But the other
people wanted some terms, that is, payments in instalments, and I wanted to
sell for cash. I would have had to wait some time for my money.
Q. — You did not have any other cash offers? A. — No.
Q. — Did you have any offers equal to that of Mr. Smith? A. — They
were not cash offers, but exceeded the amount.
Q. — How many other offers did you have? A. — Four or five.
Q. — At the time you sold the Automobile & Supply Company, had you
any idea that the Commission were going to buy these cars ? A. — No,
Q. — None whatever? A. — None whatever.
Q,. — You never discussed this? A. — No.
Q. — You are absolutely sure about it ? A. — Yes, I am certain.
Q. — Nothing else except that you sold the cars in the best condition?
A.— Yes.
Q. — And on behalf of the Commission you bought them back? A. —
Exactly.
By Mr. Me GABBY.
Q. — You were authorized to buy machines by the Commission? A. —
Yes.
Q. — They told you to buy machines? A. — Yes.
Q. — What prices did they say ? A. — In our estimates we allowed $20,000
for automobiles. I recommended five automobiles, and we decided to pick out
eight or ten different cars and submit them to tests. We wanted some cars for
long distance and heavy work, and others which would be lighter for the
engineers along the right-of-way, who could operate the machines themselves.
Q. — After examining these cars you found nothing better? A. — No, I
found something better, but the price was too high.
Q.1 — But these were the best two cars you saw for the money? A. — Yes.
Q. — When did you see the Automobile & Supply Co. ? A. — I think it
was about the end of March.
Q. — You got your cheque on May 18 ? A. — Exactly.
Q. — And you sent a cheque later to Mr. J. F. Beck, at London ? A. —
Yes.
Q. — What arrangements did you make with him for paying him? A. — I
did not want to spend $500 to-day and $200 in a month or so. I did not want
to make conditions. .
Q. — Did you make the purchase in London or Toronto ? A. — I think
it was in London.
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Q., — HOW did you bring it to Toronto ? A. — By the railroad.
Q. — Who obtained the permits for the Commission? A. — Mr. Settell,
who was secretary of the Commission at that time.
Q. — What is he now ? A. — Assistant secretary.
Q.' — Do you know who was running the Olds car at the time it was
burned? A. — Our engineer.
Q.— What did you pay for the Olds ? A.— $1,300 stripped.
Q. — And you made a great many improvements on it ? A. — Yes.
Q.— About what did they cost ? A.— From $400 to $450.
The Committee adjourned.
COMMITTEE ROOM,
March 8th, 1910.
A. J. YOUNG, of North Bay, called, sworn and examined.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Where do you reside ? A. — North Bay.
Q. — What were the first negotiations you made in regard to the Gillies
Limit? A.: — Instructing Robert McKay to put in a tender for me.
Q.— And anybody else ? A.— Yes, Mr. O'Brien.
Q. — When was that? A. — The morning of the day that the tenders
closed.
Q. — And that Mr. McKay is of what firm ? A. — He is a solicitor in
Toronto, and is connected with the firm of Johnston, McKay, Dodds and Grant.
Q.— And the morning that the tenders closed, do you remember that you
gave some instructions ? A. — I gave some instructions.
Q. — When did you first know about the Gillies Limit? What was your
first information in regard to it ? A. — Well, my information goes back to the
early discoveries at Cobalt.
Q. — What information had you at the time it was first advertised ? A. — I
had no special information at all, except the information which was open to
the public in the reports of the Bureau of Mines and the maps which were
published by the Government.
Q. — Anything further ? A. — Nothing further.
Q. — Did you make an examination of the limit specially? A. — No.
Q. — Did anyone do so for you? A. — No.
Q. — Or for Mr. O'Brien, so far as you know? A.— No.
Q. — And you simply got your information out of the reports of the
Bureau of Mines? A. — Yes, out of the published reports of the Bureau of
Mines, and the geological map, and the other maps issued by the Department
of Lands and Mines.
Q' — Yes, and did you have any consultation with anyone in the Depart-
ment in regard to your tender ? A. — No person.
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Q. — When did you first know that it was being sold by tender ? A. — It
was when they published the advertisements.
Q. — Do you know what paper you saw it advertised in? What time of
the year would that be ? A. — I do not think I can tell you in regard to that.
These tenders were to be in on June 15, I think, and the limit was advertised
for some weeks before that. I do not know just how long.
Q. — The Deputy-Minister received instructions to advertise on the 22nd of
April, and your tender was accepted. What was that tender ? A. — $10,500.
Q. — For what? A. — For parcel number A23 in the Gillies Limit.
Q. — NOW what did lot A23 consist of? A. — A block of land in the
Gillies Limit, approximately 20 acres.
Q. — And your tender of $10,500 was accepted? A. — Yes.
Q.- — When did you get notice of its acceptance ? A. — Within a few days
after June 15th.
Q. — Now before the tender was accepted, did you have any negotiations
with regard to the sale of that lot? A. — No.
Q.— When did you sell it ? A.— About the first of October.
Q.— Of 1909 ? "A.— Yes.
Q. — To whom? A. — The contract was made with James A. Brooke, of
Montreal.
Q. — For all that you purchased? A. — For all that we purchased.
Q. — For how much money ? A. — For $330,000.
Q. — In the meantime, what did you do on the limit ? A. — We spent
about $3,500 on the limit.
Q. — How was that expenditure made? A. — In trenching and ordinary
prospecting. It was largely spent in investigating the land and veins.
Q. — Who was that done by? A. — By Mr. O'Brien and myself.
Q. — By men representing you? A. — Yes.
Q. — Did you sell it by public auction or private sale? A. — By private
sale.
Q.' — Who owns it now? A. — The Wyandoh Mining Company.
Q. — Who bought it from the man to whom you sold ? A. — Well, I think
Mr. Brooke got it for a syndicate, but I do not know who the personnel was,
but I think he got it for a syndicate.
Q. — As near as you can, who did the syndicate consist of ? A. — Who did
it consist of?
Q. — Yes. A. — I do not believe I know them all, but I think there were
Shirley Ogilvie, Alex. Pringle, Milton Hersey, W. Mitchell, James Robinson
and Mr. Brooke.
Q. — Where do they all reside? A. — In Montreal.
Q. — You sold it to him for them. How long did they hold it? A. — I
do not know.
Q. — Do you know who they sold it to ? A. — I do not know. It is said
to the Wyandoh Mining Company. I cannot say whether they organized a
company or sold it to a company organized.
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Q. — Do you know what price they paid for it? A. — No.
Q. — Do you know who sold it to them? A. — No.
By the CHAIRMAN. .
Q. — It may be that this syndicate organized a company. A. — I think
so. I think they organized the Wyandoh Mining Company.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland).
Q. — Was it a cash transaction? A. — No.
Q. — You took stock? A. — No. It was ultimately cash, but not a spot
transaction.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — Was part of the consideration to the Government a royalty in
addition to the cash? A. — Yes, a royalty of 10 per cent, on the gross ore
mined at the mouth of the mine, which the purchasers from O'Brien and myself
assumed.
By Mr. CLAKKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — This was a good mine?
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: That is not a fair question.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Did I understand you to say that you knew exactly the date of the
sale? A. — It was some time in October.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — From what you knew of mining transactions and mines in general,
the mine was simply worth what you paid for it? A. — Yes.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — But you improved it with your trenching? A. — Yes, it was worth
a good deal more then.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — It was the result of your trenching and the work you did that im-
proved the value of the mine ? A. — Yes, and the discoveries which were made
in trenching.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — When you tendered for that mine, were there others ? A. — I do not
know. We thought that we were soaked for it.
Q. — The others might be soaked ? A. — I quoted our price and they made
an examination. They had four expert mining engineers go over the property,
and on their report the purchase was made.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — They did not take it on your recommendation? A. — No, they sent
their own men.
Q. — And on the report of their own men they bought it? A. — Yes.
Q. — And you made some discoveries in the meantime? A. — Yes.
By Mr. Me GARRY.
Q. — How long was it after you purchased that land before the discovery
was made on the Waldman property ? A. — I think it was just about a month
afterwards.
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Q. — I understand that the Waldman property was the richest discovery
on the Gillies Limit after the Provincial Mine? A. — Yes.
Q. — How far was that from your land ? A. — It lies right next our prop-
erty, and we have about one-half of the visible surface showings.
Q. — You took advantage of the discovery on the Waldman property and
trenched on your land? A. — Yes.
Q. — And was not yours a continuation of the Waldman vein ? A. — Yes.
Q. — And the Waldman vein was the first rich discovery made on the
limit ? A.— Yes.
Q. — At the time you bought the property you thought you paid a pretty
big price? A.— Yes.
Q. — When was the Waldman vein first struck ? A. — Just about a month
after we purchased the property.
Q. — And that is the limit adjoining yours ? A. — It is the next property,
Number A22.
Q. — Who owns it now? A. — The Waldman Mines, Limited.
Q. — Is the Waldman in the Gillies Limit? A. — Yes.
Q. — -Was it sold at the same time that the government sold your property ?
A.— Yes, but he only paid $2,000 for it.
Q. — Did he sell it again? A. — To his company, I think.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — They did a lot of work on it? A. — Yes, they had between 50 and
70 men working.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — How many acres is there in it? A. — Approximately twenty.
The CHAIRMAN : The limit is cut up into 20-acre lots.
Q. — That was sold for $2,000, and it developed within a month to a valu-
able property. Can you give any idea of what it has been sold for since?
A.— No.
Q. — It has a rich vein ? A. — Yes, it was a rich vein on the surface.
Q. — Are they operating now? A. — Yes. i
Q. — How is it turning out ? A. — I have no special knowledge.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — It is like all mining enterprises, you are taking chances? A. — One
of these veins may be exceedingly rich on the surface and may continue that
way or it may run right out.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — This Waldman mine is located next to yours upon which a rich vein
was found. That helped the sale of your property ? A. — Yes, the Waldman
vein helped the sale of our property.
Q. — You bought your property at the same time as the others ? A. — Yes.
The witness was discharged.
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Mr. S. A. ARMSTRONG, called, sworn and examined.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — Mr. Armstrong, what is jour position? A. — Assistant Provincial
Secretary.
Q. — It is your Department that permits for automobiles are obtained ?
A.— Yes.
Q. — Will you just tell us what system is followed? A. — An application
is made on the form supplied by the Department in which the numbers of the
machine are inserted, and signed by the applicant or his agent. A license 'is
then issued to him, a permit, together with two markers. These markers are
attached to the car, one in front and one behind.
Q. — They are the numbers ? A. — Yes.
Q. — And they stay on the car ? A. — They are supposed to.
Q. — Suppose a man is purchasing a car from someone else, does that
appear on his application? A. — It may, and it may not. They are supposed
to give all information, but in a great many cases they do not attend to it. It
is really impossible to follow it up.
Q. — Have you any records of a permit being obtained by Mr. Sothmann ?
A. — Yes, I have one here.
Q.1 — For what car? A. — For a Rambler.
Q.— What is the date of that? A.— Twenty-seventh of April, 1908.
Q. — What is the number of the permit ? A. — Number 200.
Q. — What is the next car that Mr. Sothmann obtained a permit for?
A. — I am not aware that he obtained any further permit.
Q. — Have you any record of a transfer of number 200 ? A. — The only
record we have is a note, which was made on the bottom of the application,
in which the statement is made that it is transferred from P. W. Sothmann,
from number 200.
Q. — Was the 200 number retained when the transfer was made? A. — I
presume it was. It was evidently not returned here.
Q. — Was it retained in the car when the transfer was made? A. — "No.
A new number was issued.
Q. — Have you any note as to why that change was made? A. — No, I
have not that information. At that season of the year particularly there are
a great many applications coming in, and we could not pay attention to all
the notes attached to the applications. The name of the applicant and a de-
scription of the car are the chief items of information we wish to secure, and
evidently this application came in from somewhere and was put through with
other applications.
Q. — What name is on the application? A. — The name is given as the
Hydro-Electric Power Commission, and the transfer is made from Mr. Soth-
mann.
Q. — And a new number was issued ? A. — I suppose so.
Q. — As far as you know was any other permit granted but number 200
to Mr. Sothmann? A. — No.
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Q. — What other permits were granted to the Hydro-Electric Power Com-
mission? A. — Permit granted on the 23rd of April, 190.9, number 5,821;
on the 26th of April, 1909, 5,759.
Q. — Have you a permit for a Mitchell car, granted to the Commission'*
A. — Yes, on the 27th of November, 1909.
Q. — Have you a permit granted to the Commission in 1909 for a MitcBell
car ? A.— Yes.
Q. — Is it a new permit or a transfer? A. — It is a transfer from J. F.
Beck, London, license number 2,617.
Q. — Was the number 2,617 retained when the transfer was made. A. —
No.
Q., — So that a new number was taken out for this car also? A. — Yes.
Q. — So that Mr. Sothmann's name does not appear as a licensee to run
that car ? A. — No. The permit was issued to the Commission.
Q.— And what is the date ? A.— Twenty-third of April, 1909.
The witness was discharged.
Mr. P. W. SOTHMANN, recalled and examined.
By Mr. MCGARRY.
Q. — When you were here the other day you could not tell us exactly how
much money you expended on repairs to these cars ? A. — No.
Q. — Are you in a position to-day to tell us how much money you actually
expended in cash on improvements to these cars ? A. — Up to a certain extent
I can do so. I tried to get all the vouchers together. This is a statement of
what I spent.
(Exhibit A.) The first item in this statement is for $373,63, and is
covered by vouchers.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — On what car was that? A. — On the two cars, the Mitchell and~the
Olds.
By Mr. MCGARRY.
Q. — In addition to this expenditure for which you produce vouchers, what
other expenditure did you make on these two cars ? A. — Then I bought a
carburetor, repaired the tires and I figure in here two months for the machinist.
Q. — For the tire repairs, the carburetor and fixing the machines up what
do you charge ? A. — I should say one hundred dollars.
Q. — And for the labour of the machinist for the two months what do you
charge? A. — I charge $120 for the two months.
Q. — I understood the last day that you had the machinist working for
about six months? A. — I have had him do a lot of work for me, but I only
charge two months of his time.
Q. — One hundred and twenty dollars? A. — Yes.
Q. — What else ? A. — Then I bought a speedometer, pumps and a jack.
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Q. — Total how much ? I do not know just how much I paid for the jacks.
Q. — What do you estimate? A. — Seventy-five dollars.
Q. — And what else ? A. — I put on an interrupter on the car.
Q. — How much was that? A. — Eighteen dollars.
Q. — Then you made all these repairs to the two cars after you got them ?
A.— Yes.
Q. — And they were completed before you took them to the Automobile &
Supply Co. ? A.— Yes.
Q. — In addition to that, you told us on the last day that you expended
considerable labour on them yourself ? A. — Yes, my leisure time and Saturday
afternoons.
Q. — Your own time? A. — Yes.
Q. — And that was after you were free from your work at the Hydro-
Electric ? A. — Yes.
Q. — And if you hadn't done that, the repairs would have cost a great deal
more ? A. — I would have had to send the cars to a garage, to have the repairs
made.
Q. — How much do you estimate your own time as worth ? A. — Oh, I
could not say.
Q. — Two hundred dollars ? A. — I would say it was worth at least $100.
Q. — So you expended in cash $686.63, with $100 of your own time,
which makes a total of $786.63 that you expended on these cars before you
sold them to the Automobile & Supply Co. ? A. — Yes.
Q.' — The last day you were here you told us that you made a recommenda-
tion to the Hydro-Electric Commission with reference to the purchase of cars.
Have you a copy of your recommendation? A. — Yes, sir. (Exhibit B.)
Q. — The two last names, the Mitchell and the Olds, are the cars that we
have referred to ? A. — Yes.
Q. — On the same day you made several other recommendations in which
these cars were included ? A. — Yes.
Q. — And on the same date a meeting of the Commission was held at which
this minute was passed and you purchased the four cars? (Included in Ex-
hibit B.) A.— Yes.
Q. — Did you receive any tenders prior to this ? A. — Yes, I was down
to the Automobile show in 1,908 and I saw most of the exhibitors and told
them that we would be buying cars and would like them to submit offers.
Q. — Can you produce a copy of a communication from the Automobile
& Supply Co. dated the 16th of February? A.— Yes. (Exhibit C.) I have
copies of several letters from the Automobile & Supply Co., the Oldsmobile
Co. and the Canadian Cycle and Motor Co. (Exhibits D, E, F, G. H.)
Q. — After your recommendations were made, how many cars did you
purchase ? A. — Four.
Q. — What were the four cars? A. — One Pierce Great Arrow, 36 h. p.,
6 cylinder, $5,200; one Russell, 45 h. p., 4 cylinder, $4,250; one Mitchell, 36
h. p., 4 cylinder, $1,650; one Olds, 36 h. p., 4 cylinder, $1,600.
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Q.— From whom did you buy the Pierce? A. — From the Automobile
& Supply Co.
Q. — The Eussell ? A.< — From the Canada Cycle & Motor Co.
Q. — And the other two cars? A. — From the Automobile & Supply Co.
Q.— Which were they ? A.— The Mitchell and the Olds.
Q. — And the price for the two was $3,250. A. — Yes.
Q.' — Now in answer to Mr. Elliott the other day you said that the Olds
car was burned ? A. — The Olds, yes.
Q. — How long had it been in use by the Commission before it was
burned ? A. — May be seven or eight months, I cannot say exactly.
Q.— In the Fall, no doubt ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Probably after only six months' use ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Was it insured ? A. — Yes, all machines are insured.
Q. — How much was it insured for ? A. — $1,200.
Q. — And the Commission received $1,200 for it? A. — Yes.
Q. — You received this money from the insurance company after using the
car seven or eight months ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Have you the cheque you paid to Mr. J. F. Beck, London, for the
car you purchased from him? A.' — I have the cheque from the Bank of
Montreal, and the correspondence dated May 19th, 1909. (Exhibit I.)
Q.— What did you pay for the Olds ? A.— $1,300.
Q. — Have you the vouchers ? A. — I have.
Q. — Now you gave vouchers with reference to the trip of yourself and
another engineer to Europe? A. — Yes, sir.
Q. — Now before we go into those vouchers, would you tell me what is the
name of the other engineer who accompanied you ? Can you produce the vouch-
ers? A. — Mr. Mansfeldt accompanied me, and I have the vouchers for the
expenses. (Exhibit J.)
Q. — I understand, he went away before you left for the Old Country?
A. — He left here, I think, six or eight weeks before I left and was sent to con-
dense the work.
Q. — I understand when you met him in the Old Country that you paid
the expenses for both when you were travelling together? Ai — Up to that
time he had paid all his expenses, but when we were travelling together I paid
95 per cent.
Q. — You can produce vouchers for the expenses made by you both going
and coming? A. — Yes.
Q. — Your total expenses were $1,788.05 ? A. — Yes.
Q. — When did you leave for Europe ? A. — I left in May, and returned
about the twelfth of July.
Q. — These are the vouchers which show in detail your expenses? AJ.*—-
Yes.
Q. — You let the other engineer remain after you left the Old County?
A. — He remained there about one and a half or two months longer.
Q. — And you have the vouchers for his expenses also ? A. — Yes.
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Q. — Now to sum up your evidence, see if I understand your statement
correctly with reference to the whole transaction. In June or July, 1908, you
bought an Olds car from the Automobile & Supply Co. for $1,300. You used
it in connection with your Hydro-Electric Commission work during the sum-
mer and fall of 1908. During that summer and fall you had occasion to drive
in a Mitchell car belonging to Mr. J. F. Beck, of London, and ascertained
that he desired to sell the car. In December, 1908, you decided to buy this
car from him for $1,500, and he agreed to sell it to you at that price. You told
him you could pay for it from time to time, but he preferred to wait and told
you he would wait until you could pay for it all at once. You then put on
these two cars repairs which cost you $686.63, in addition to which you devoted
your own time after your regular business hours and this time you say would
cost "if another expert did the work" about $100. You paid for your own
car $1,300 and for J. F. Beck's car $1,500, or a total of $2,800. You ex-
pended in cash $686.63 and time $100, making a total of $3,586.63, and you
sold the two cars for $3,250. In the month of February, 1909, tenders were
called for and in March you made recommendations to the Commission of
several different cars, and these recommendations included Olds car and the
Mitchell car which you had sold previously to the Automobile & Supply Co.
Before you had sold to the Supply Company and before you had recommended
the purchase by the Hydro-Electric Commission you had had these two cars
valued by Mr. Smith of the Automobile & Supply Company, and he valued
them at $3,250. The Commission's engineers other than you made a thorough
test of these automobiles before recommending the purchase, and there were
none others available at so low a figure. You and the other engineers believed
and still believe that they were good value for the money. You knew the cars
before this, were familiar with the running of them and felt that they would
be most serviceable for the Commission's work. The Commission bought four
cars, of which these were two. When these two cars were paid for you received
a cheque from the Automobile & Supply Co. for $3,250. No commissions,
whatever, were paid to any person in connection with the whole transaction,
and no profits whatever were made by you. You could have sold for a larger
sum but would have had to wait for your money and receive it in instalments,
Is this a correct statement of the transaction regarding these automobiles ?
A. — Yes, sir.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — I understand you to say that this $686.63 was for repairs to the
automobiles, for fixing up the machines ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Does it include any cost of running the cars ? A. — No. I have bills
for that.
Q.' — Do you mean that for sure? Does that include any gasoline used
in running the cars ? A. — "No.
Q. — In this statement of $375.63? A. — That was all included in the
vouchers.
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Q. — Was it not a matter of ordinary repairs that you made at that time?
A. — The cars would have run without them.
Q. — Here is an item of $4 for one lamp, two gallons of oil, ten gallons
of gasoline. Are these the repairs you refer to in making up the item of
$373.63 ? A. — If those items are included I'll have to ask your pardon. I
did not intend that they should be put in, and I have not had the time to go
over the matter carefully.
Q. — What are the other items for, then ? A. — For merchandise which I
have referred to.
By Mr. MCGARRY.
Q.— This bill is from the Oldsmobile Co. of Canada— one for $293.37
and another for $143.77 — are these bills 'for repairs ? A. — Yes.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q.I — And you told us how much you expended on each car. Was there
any difference between the two cars? Which car was in the better repair?
A. — The Mitchell was in the better repair.
Q. — Did you make any recommendations in writing as to the purchase 'of
these cars ? A. — No.
Q.' — How did you recommend them to the Commission? A. — After we
decided to buy I said here were two second-hand cars that would suit our pur-
pose, and they were cheaper than any other cars submitted, so I recommended
them.
Q. — It was your own two cars that you recommended? A. — Yes, but I
knew what the cars would do.
Q. — Did you say, here are two cars I can recommend? A. — Yes.
Q.' — Did you explain to the Commission that you wanted to sell the cars?
A. — I do not think so.
Q. — You simply indicated to the Commission that you could recommend
the cars ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Did anybody make any enquiry about who owned these cars ? 3C. —
No.
Q. — They simply acted on your recommendation ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Where are the cars now? A. — The Olds is burned up, the first
Mitchell is still in the field doing good work, and the other Mitchell that we
have purchased is still in the field.
The witness was discharged.
Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.) : Mr. Chairman, on page 454 of the Pub-
lic Accounts there is an item for the sale of lots in Gowganda town plot
$5,560.47.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: I explained that the other day. When the sale
of the lots was made it was found, on account of the previous location of the
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mining lots, would affect the town lots and purchasers could not get a proper
title, so we persuaded the owners of the mining lots to surrender their rights
on payment of a percentage. They claimed mining rights, and the purchasers
wanted to secure a clear title.
Mr. CLARKE: You gave them this money?
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: We gave them a percentage.
The Committee adjourned.
COMMITTEE ROOM,
March 10th, 1910.
Mr. T. W. GIBSON, recalled and examined.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — Mr. Gibson, you had a parcel of land in the Gillies Limit called
"A 6," and according to the statement you made it was sold in June last to
George E. Martel for $15,300. Do you know if he was the actual buyer ? From
the information I have M. J. O'Brien was the actual purchaser. A. — That
is probably correct, but I could not say what the records show without con-
sulting them.
Q. — Did the Department make the same thorough examination of this lot
as it did for the others ? A. — Yes.
Q. — What was the result ? A. — A vein was found at the time and a shaft
was sunk, but the ore found was not valuable for silver. It did not show any
exceptional promise.
Q. — Then the same party, since the sale, has found something of promise
on the lot, because I am told that Mr. O'Brien was offered $150,000 for the
property. Evidently he has found out if the vein was worth any money. A. —
"No ore has been shipped from that property yet. I have no information that
silver has been found on it.
Q. — There is another sale to S. D. Madden, lot "A 9," $2,500, on July 13,
and also one on June 15, $2,750, for lot "A 12." When these lots were sold
were they transferred to this purchaser ? A. — The transfer would be made out
in the ordinary way under the Land Titles Act.
Q. — Have you copies of the transfers ? A. — No, not after the patents are
issued.
Q. — Then Mr. Madden sold these properties since for $30,000, I am told.
The same conditions apply to this property as to the others? A. — Yes.
Mr. McGARRY : Madden sold three properties ?
Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.): This one, "A 13," was sold for
$30,000 and he got the cash for it ? A. — I cannot tell you anything about that,
Mr. Clarke. After he obtained his patent he would not record the transfer
with the Department, but all subsequent transfers would be sent to the local
Master of Titles at North Bay.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
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Q. — You had a number of sales ? A. — Yes.
Q. — How many before the 31st of October? A. — Three.
Q. — Did the discovery on the Waldman property benefit the subsequent
sales ? A. — I think it did.
Q. — Did it affect them largely. A. — It affected them considerably.
Q. — Did you get larger tenders than in the first place? A. — Yes, the
purchase prices were much higher after that discovery than they were before.
Q. — After the discovery on the Waldman ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Did you reject tenders in some cases ? Did you accept any under
$2,000? A. — No, we did not accept any tender under $2,000, and had to
reject quite a number.
Q. — And you accepted the highest tender in each case ?
Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)-: At each sale? A. — In each sale the
highest tender was accepted for every lot if it exceeded $2,000.
Q. — In your opinion was the increased price obtained due to the discoveries
on the Waldman mine subsequent to the sale ? A. — Yes, I think it was. There
is no doubt the Government reaped the advantage from the discovery of the
Waldman vein and the Province made a great deal of money at the subsequent
sales.
The CHAIRMAN: Has any silver been shipped from the Gillies Limit?
A. — None except that from the Provincial mine.
Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.) : Have you any idea what the increase
has been on the whole as a result of the Waldman discovery ? A. — The amount
of the increase in the tenders subsequent to the discovery compared with those
previous ?
Q. — Yes. A. — The increase would perhaps be three times as an immedi-
ate result of this discovery.
Q. — And the sales to other parties were due to the same fact? A. — No.
cfroubt.
Mr. McGARRY : Did you have more than one tender for "A 6" ? A. —
Yes, "A 6" was sold at the first sale. We accepted the tender with a ten per
cent, deposit, but the tenderer declined to pay up the remainder of the money
and did not take the property.
Q.— What was the tender price at the first sale for "A 6" ? A.— $11,000.
Q. — By whom was that made ? A. — By George L. Pratt, Buffalo.
Q. — And he paid ten per cent. ? A. — Yes, $1,100.
Q. — At what sale ? A. — The first sale.
Q.— On the 15th of June ? A.— Yes, sir.
Q. — And he decided not to take the lot? A. — Yes.
Q. — When was it offered for sale again ? A. — On the 13th of September.
It would be the third sale.
Q. — Was it offered at the second sale in July? A. — Yes, it was offered
then, but there were no bids.
Q. — Then in September Martel paid $15,300 for it. A. — Yes.
Q. — Is that the property near the Morrison claim ? A. — Yes.
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Q. — A discovery had been made on the Morrison claim about the time that
sale took place? A. — Yes, it was so reported.
Q.— Did you get more tenders for "A 6" other than the one from Martel
at that sale in September ? A. — Yes, we had nine tenders for that lot.
Q. — Would you tell me what was the next tender to Mr. Martel's ? A. —
The next tender was for $4,050.
Q. — And the other tenders were under that? A. — Yes.
Q. — You accepted the highest tender ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Then I suppose in all the sales there were different tenders for the
different lots and you sold to the highest ? A. — Yes. We received a number
of tenders for the different lots and we always accepted the highest tender.
Q. — At the last sale you got tenders as high as $30,000 ? A. — Yes, I think
there were some even in excess of that. I have no papers here with reference
to the last sale, because that was not within the ten months.
Q. — There was a sale higher than $35,000 ? A. — -My impression is that
there was a bid higher than that. I think it was as high as $40,000.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — That is on the recent sale ? A. — Yes, that is on the last sale.
Q. — I understand, Mr. Gibson, that you said your later sales brought the
best prices ? A. — The last sale.
Q. — At the last sale the sum total was considerably more than the others ?
A. — Very much higher.
Q. — That naturally comes from the fact that the discoveries on the Gillies
Limit property resulted in an advance in price to the Government? A. — ^Yes,
I think so.
Q. — From the time that you got an order from the Minister to advertise
for tenders can you tell me what was the time from the advertisement to the
time of the sale ? A. — An Order-in-Council was issued on the 22nd of April
authorizing the first sale, but I cannot say when the first advertisement appeared
in the newspapers.
Q. — That was when you advertised? A. — The advertisement appeared
shortly afterwards and the tenders for the first sale closed about June 15th.
The CHAIRMAN : The advertisement in the newspapers appeared about the
23rd of April.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — What way did you advertise, in the Toronto papers and others ? A. —
It was advertised all over the country.
Q. — Was it advertised outside the country, in New York and other places ?
Q. — Did you have any tenders from Americans ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Many ? A. — A fair proportion. I think the larger number of tenders
were received from residents of Canada, but there were a number of tenders
received from the United States, from parties in Pittsburg, New York, Buffalo
and elsewhere.
Q. — On account of these different sales I suppose the later properties were
better than those offered on the former sales ? A. — Not necessarilv so.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1.
By Mr. ELLIOTT.
Q. — The advertisement provided that the highest or any tender need not
necessarily be accepted ? A. — Yes.
Q. — So if the Government on receiving any tender thought that the price
was not good value they need not sell ? A. — No.
Q. — Were any turned down ? A. — All under $2,000.
Q. — Your policy was to reject any tender under $2,000 irrespective of
what it referred to ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Then anything over $2,000 you accepted. A. — All except the Pro-
vincial Mine, which w,as sold separately. We thought this was worth more on
account of the vein which had been discovered, and there was the plant and
machinery, for which, of course, we could not accept anything like $2,000.
Q.— What did the Provincial Mine sell for? A.— $113,111.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — Including the plant? A. — Yes.
Q.— What was the plant worth? A.— Say $8,000 to $10,000.
By Mr. MCGARRY.
Q. — Is this a list of the newspapers in which the advertisement appeared ?
reduced list.) A. — Yes.
Q. — In the list the names of ninety newspapers throughout the Province
are given in which the advertisement appeared during the period between the
time you received instructions and the time the tenders were closed ? A. — Yes.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — In your opinion did the mining world and the people who would be
apt to purchase have a fair notice ? A. — Yes. I have prepared here a statement
of expenditure and collections on the Gillies Limit from 1906 to 1909, which
I thought might be of interest to the Committee.
Revenue. Expenditure.
1906 $19,159.48
1907 30,686.60
1908 $ 12,592.90 30,648.1,6
1909, Sale of Provincial Mine 113,111.00 . 13,777.72
1909, Sundries 2,324.71
$128,028.61 $94,271.96
Credit balance $33,756.65
Sale of lots, Gillies Limit:
Collection to Oct. 31st, 1909 $209,968.70
Subsequently 278,713.60
— $488,682.30
$522,438.95
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The total expenditure, amounting to $94,271.96 is for ordinary labour,
prospecting, surveying, machinery and plant at the Provincial Mine, which,
deducted from the revenue amounting to $128,028.61, leaves a balance to the
credit of the mine of $33,756.65. The total receipts from the sale of the Pro-
vincial Mine and lots on the Gillies Limit, after deducting the expenditures,
shows a net return of $522,438.95.
l3y Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — That is over expenditure? A. — Yes.
Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.) : I understand the Government received
an offer of $20,000,000.
Mr. GIBSON : No statement of that kind was ever given out by the Bureau
of Mines.
The witness was discharged, and the Committee adjourned.
COMMITTEE ROOM.
March llth, 1910.
Mr. T. W. GIBSON, recalled and examined.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q.- — Can you explain an item on page 415 of the Public Accounts, Silver
Bar Mine, board of men $624.08, coal, oil, etc., $231.37, making a total of
$855.45 ? A. — This item has reference to the board of men and the cost of
coal and oil and other supplies used in connection with the operation of the
Government diamond drill at the Silver Bar Mine. The Silver Bar Mining
Company obtained the use of the Government's diamond drill under the regu-
lations of the Department. We pay our men so much per day, and they board
themselves, but in this case the company boarded the men and instead of pay-
ing the men their wages, including their board, the company rendered a bill for
the board to the Government and the Government credited the account to the
company's indebtedness for the rent of the drill with the amount of the board.
Q. — I understand that the Government's men were working for the Silver
Bar Mining Company ? A. — No, they were engaged by the Department. The
Department has two diamond drills, and the services of these drills are loaned
to different parties who wish to use the drill for prospecting on their own prop-
erty. The men go with the drill.
By The CHAIRMAN.
Q. — You do not mean the men are loaned too ? A. — The men go with the
drill. We supply the drill and the manager and the labour.
By Hon. Mr. MATHESON.
Q. — But they pay something back ? A. — We charge the whole cost to the
company getting the drill and credit them back with 35 per cent, of the amount,
leaving 65 per cent, for the cost of operation, to be borne by the person or
company using the drill. Now these items here are part of the expenses of
running the drill.
Edw. VIL. APPENDIX Xo. 1.
By Mr. CLARKE,
Q. — When you loan the drill you send the men with the drill ? A. — We
send the manager and usually supply the labour necessary.
Q. — How does the Government get paid for this work? A. — They pay
u? in the usual way, when the work is completed, in cash.
Q. — How do you charge ? A. — We charge the total expenditure of operat-
ing to the company getting the drill, and credit them back with 35 per cent.,
leaving the company to pay 65 per cent, of the cost of operation.
Q. — In other words, the Government bears 35 per cent. ? A. — Yes.
Q. — That is under the regulations of the Department ? A. — Yes.
Q. — You must have had quite a number of men to have paid $625 for
board ? A. — The drill was in operation from the end of July for almost six
months, and they kept it running with both day and night shifts.
Q. — This item for coal oil looks large. A. — There should be a comma
between the words. It is for coal and oil.
Q. — I think that clears it up all right. A. — As a rule we just send the
manager with the drill, who goes from place to place with the machinery, and
we like to keep him, but for ordinary help, such as firemen and laborers, we are
generally able to procure them in the vicinity where the drill is operating.
Q. — Do I understand, in addition to the 35 per ceni., that you credit them
with wear and tear ? A. — No. We charge them for all breakages and wear and
tear while we are working for them.
Q. — What is Mr. E. T. Corkill's general occupation? A. — Mr. Corkill
is Inspector of Mines for the whole of the Province. He travels from one end
to the other. He is constantly travelling, inspecting the mines, investigating
accidents, and generally performing his duties as Inspector of Mines.
Q. — What portion of time is he out of the city on business connected with
his work ? A. — Taking the period of ten months last year, he would be out of
the city probably three-quarters of his time.
Q. — I suppose he does not get home Sundays? A. — No.
Q. — You think then, three-quarters of his time he is out of the city in
connection with his duty ? A. — Yes.
Q. — What would he be doing in Winnipeg? A. — He goes from Port
Arthur to Winnipeg and comes back on the Canadian Northern to inspect the
mines at Atikokan, along the line of the Canadian Northern, which is much
cheaper than coming by way of Kenora.
Q. — You have to pay regular transportation for these trips ? A. — Yes, we
do not even get transportation on the T. &. N. O.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: The T. & N. O. charges the Department the same
rate as it charges anyone else.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — Can you explain the item on page 416, G. K. Mickle, travelling ex-
penses, $805.50? A. — Mr. Mickle is Mine Assessor, and his duties are defined
under the Supplementary Revenue Act. He looks after the revenue that arises
under that Act. He has to inspect the books of the mines and. mining companies
and check their operation. He is also charged with the duty of looking after
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royalties payable to the Crown by certain mining companies, such as the Crown
Reserve, which pays 10 per cent, on the ore mined, and the Temiskaming and
Hudson Bay. These, with his other duties, call him out of the city a great deal,
and his travelling expenses disclosed by this item cover the full period.
Q. — What portion of the year would he be out of the city in connection
with his duties ? A. — About half of his time.
Q. — About five months ? A.— Yes.
Q. — Say 125 days at $5 per day ? A. — He is away a great deal, and has
to travel from ono end of the Province to the other.
The witness was discharged.
Mr. S. A. ARMSTRONG, recalled and examined.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — There is an item on page 18, Public Accounts, Dorien Plating Manu-
facturing Co., Auto tags, $4,404.40, and the Gutta Percha Eubber Co., Auto tags,
$950; can you explain these items? A. — These are tags that we purchased
under contract at 95 cents apiece. The letters cost $1.50 apiece. Where a
marker is lost and has to be replaced we charge $1.50.
Q. — And the cost is what ? A. — Ninety-five cents each.
Q. — And the next charge you mentioned? A. — The next charge is $1.50.
You can understand where the rubber company are manufacturing a large num-
ber of tags tlio price is cheaper than when one single tag is called for, and thus
$1.50 is charged for one single tag. When a motorist has lost a tag we require
that the tag be replaced through the Provincial Secretary's Ifepartment.
Q. — What do you receive for granting permits ? A. — Two dollars for the
annual permit and $2 for the two markers. The numbers are given to auto-
mobile owners, but the letter is a different thing. The lettered tags are what
are given to manufacturers and automobile dealers for demonstration purposes.
Hon. Mr. HANNA: The letter is used by manufacturers and dealers to
demonstrate the machines.
The CHAIRMAN.
Q. — These tags are bought by tender ? A. — Yes, they are purchased from
the Dorien Plating 'Manufacturing Company and the Gutta Percha Rubber
Company.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q.~You ask for tenders? A. — I suppose tenders were called for in the
first instance.
Q. — You do not know how many tenders were received ? A. — I cannot say
just how many.
Q. — How many tags would $4,404.40 represent. A. — It would average
about 98 cents a tag.
Q. — Then you would be buying about 4,000 tags ? A. — Yes.
Edw. VIL APPEXDIX Xo. 1. 81
Q. — On the same basis you would be buying about another thousand from
the Gutta Percha Eubber Company? A. — Yes. I think we issued last year
something like 2,500 new markers, but I think this purchase which we are con-
sidering is mostly composed of tags which were bought to replace those that
were lost.
By Mr. MUSGEOVE.
Q. — You have a number of tags on hand yet ? A. — Yes.
Hon. Mr. MATHESON: There is a revenue of over $12,000 from auto-
mobile permits.
Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.) : I would like to see the tenders.
Hon. Mr. HANNA : T think I can explain this. Mr. Mulvey, who is now in
Ottawa, took the matter up with the Dunlop Tire and Rubber Goods Company
and the Canadian Rubber Company. He got their prices and two sample tags
which .looked very much alike. Then Mr. Mulvey made some investigation. I
do not know whether they were at the laboratory or if it was something practical
with the engineers down stairs, but the result was that the white ran into the
black on one tag under, certain treatment which was as near as they could get to
the treatment the tags would get on the machines. It was a poor tag and they
endeavoured to secure a material which would always distinguish the white and
the black. I think the prices were very much the same.
Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.) : But you have tenders now?
WITNESS : I think so.
Q. — I understand the tags cost you 95 cents ? A. — Yes.
Q. — What do you get for them ? A. — We got one dollar each.
Q. — Where does the revenue come from ? A. — From the license.
Q. — You do not make much on the tags, which cost 95 cents and you sell
them for a dollar. A. — No, we do not try to make a profit on the tags, but we
charge for the tag in addition to the license.
The witness was discharged.
Mr. S. D. MADDEN, called, sworn and examined.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — What is your name? A. — S. D. Madden.
Q. — You live where ? A. — I have resided in Cobalt for the last four years.
Q. — You tendered for some property on the Gillies Limit? A. — Yes.
Q. — How many locations did you buy there ? A. — I have tendered at
several sales.
Q. — How many lots did you buy at the several Government sales ? A. — I
bought for myself and for parties interested seven pieces in all. I tendered for
a number more, but did not get them. At the first sale I bought two.
Q. — Did they appear in your name as purchaser ? What was the first one
you bought? A. — I think it was A 12 and A 13. I bought A 9 at the second
sale and A 49 at the last sale.
APPENDIX Xo. 1. 1910
Q. — That is, you bought for yourself ? A. — No, I bought them for myself
and others.
Q. — You got the first of these in June ? A. — Yes, on June 15th.
Q. — That was the time the tenders were received. A. — Yes.
Q.— And you paid $2,500 for A 13 ? A.— I think A 13 was $2,500, and
A ] 2 was $2,750.
Q.— What did you pay for A 49 ? A.— $7,000.
Q.— That cost you a great deal more ? A. — Things were looking better
then.
Q. — And A 9 ? A. — I bought that at the second sale.
Q. — What did you pay for that? A. — $2,500.
Q. — You say these were not actually bought on your own account. Have
any of these properties been sold ? A. — Yes, I have sold them to other parties.
Q.— Which did you sell ? A.— A 12 and A 13.
Q. — Have they changed hands to your knowledge since then ? A. — "No, sir.
Q — Can you tell us what was paid for A 12 and A 13 ? A. — $30,000.
Q.— Each one ? A.— Both.
Q. — $30,000 for the two locations. A. — Yes.
Q. — I suppose you got cash or the equivalent. A. — The equivalent.
Q. — Was it good security. A. — It was ultimately cash.
By Mr. MUSGROVE.
Q. — Was any work done on them in the meantime ? A. — There was a great
deal of work done on the adjoining property in the meantime.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — You got $30,000 for these two limits for which you paid $5,250?
A.— Yes.
Q. — And you got cash ? A. — Yes.
Q. — How long a time after the purchase was this sale made ? Just as near
as you can guess ? A. — It was some time in July. I do not know exactly, but
I think it was about thirty days afterwards.
Q. — Was your idea after you made the sale that you might have got more
money ? A. — My idea is, when these lands were bought we spent a good part of
the time going over them. Between the time of buying and selling there had
been a great deal of work done in the locality, and the valuable vein was dis-
covered on the adjoining property, which made our property worth a good deal
more money.
Q. — Do you say a certain amount of expenditure was made on this prop-
erty ? A. — No, we simply prospected them. We really did practically no work
011 them.
Q. — You really spent no money on 12 and 13? A. — No, except on pros-
pecting, but no development work was done. I had a man who spent a guud
many days there after we bought them, but we did not do any mining.
Q. — In other words, you simply spent your time in looking over these and
the other locations ? A. — We looked principally over these two.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 83
Q. — Were there men in there before the sale looking over the limit ? A. —
There were a trreat many men there before the sale looking over the limit.
Q. — What would be your estimate of the total expenditure made, and what
would be chargeable to these two locations ? A. — It would not be a large amount.
One of the men interested in buying spent his own time on the Limit, but there
was no actual work done.
Q. — What would you say would be the value of your time and the time of
your expert engineer whom you engaged in looking over these properties ? You
spent how much of your time looking over the properties. A. — I spent con-
siderable time before we forwarded the bid.
Q. — What I am getting at now is the amount of money you spent on 12
and 13 previous to your sale to the second party. A. — We did not spend very
much money ^on them, probably $50.
Q. — $50 or $100 ? A. — Something like that.
Q. — You have not sold A 9 or A 49 yet ? A. — No.
Q. — I suppose you are offering them for sale ? A. — They could be sold at
a price.
Q. — You would not take what you paid for them ? A. — "No.
Q. — What price would you take for A 49 ?
The CHAIRMAN: That is not evidence.
Q.— You still own A. 9 ? A.— Yes.
Q. — Do you know A 6 ? A. — In a general way.
Q. — Have you seen it? A. — Yes.
Q. — This appears to have been bought by one George E. Martel. Do you
know who owns that property ? A. — I do not know. I only know it is reported
to have been bought by Martel.
Q. — Have you heard about anyone else being connected with the property ?
A. — I have heard them talking about someone else.
Q. — It is said that A 6 is owned by Mr. O'Brien ? A. — I have heard them
say so.
Q. — You do not know more than that ? A. — No.
Q. — Have you heard whether this land has been sold ? A. — No.
Q. — Now you have said that you only bought four lots in your own name,
and of these you only sold two, and you have the other two still on hand ? A. —
There were only four which appeared in my name, but I bought seven alto-
gether for different parties.
Q. — The balance you have you are not trying hard to sell, even at a
marginal advance ? A. — We still have two lots on hand.
Q. — Well, what you bought for $5,250 you sold for $30,000 and got your
cash in a month or so ? A. — Yes.
iBy Mr. McGABRY.
Q. — You sold these two lots, A 12 and A 13, to J. H. Waldman, who was
the owner of A 9 and A 23 ? A. — Yes.
Q. — What else did he own ? A. — He owned A 10 and A 22.
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Q. — And the other two lots which you sold to him are alongside ? A. — No.
One was between the two and the other at the end, which formed a square.
Q. — At the time you sold these two lots to him I understand they made a
discovery on A 22 ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Have you been on these lands you sold to Waldman since the sale?
A.— Yes.
Q. — Waldman did some trenching ? A. — Yes, a great deal of work.
Q. — And did they make any discoveries? A. — He found no silver, but
some trace of cobalt.
Q. — That is, he found some calcite or smaltite ? A. — Yes.
Q. — There was no ore produced ? A. No.
Q. — There are a great many more lots in Cobalt which would justify pros-
pecting, as these two? A. — Yes.
Q. — And they can be obtained by merely locating and paying at the rate
of $3.50 per acre ? A. — Mines worth millions to-day were got that way.
Q. — You know the Kerr Lake Mine ? A. — Yes.
Q. — It was capitalized at $3,000,000, and it is considered to be worth
$9,000,000 to-day ? A.— Yes.
Q. — And you know it was got for $3.50 per acre ? A. — Yes.
Q. — And you went and bought these lots simply as a matter of speculation ?
A. — Yes, they are all doing it.
Q. — In this case, by reason of the fact that the discovery was made on the
Waldman, the purchase which you made for $5,250 became much more valuable ?
A. — Yes, and to-day they are more valuable still.
Q. — As far as you know, there has been no ore shipped from the two lots
which you sold ? A. — As far as I know there has been no ore found on them.
Q. — Is it not a fact that Mr. Waldman, with his men, trenched both lots,
north and south, east and west, covering both thoroughly ? A. — I think he has.
Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.") : What depth to the rock.
By Mr. McGAERY.
Q. — Were you at the Waldman discovery shortly after it was made. A. —
Yes.
Q. — It was a vein that might not have been found for years ? A. — The lot
had been trenched, but if they had not happened to come across that place the
vein would not have been found.
Q. — Is it not a fact that for years work has been done on lots in the district
and for the first time discoveries have been made by a lucky prospector ? A. —
I have seen veins found after the property had been abandoned.
Q. — Is it not a fact that the discoveries on the Waldman and O'Brien
properties have been made since that portion of the limit has been sold by the
Government ? A. — Yes.
Q. — You are familiar with the camp. You have been in Cobalt for some
time. A. — Yes, for a long time.
Q. — And you had been dealing in properties throughout the Cobalt district ?
A.— Yes.
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Q. — And is it not a fact that when discoveries of any kind are made it
becomes common gossip of the camp ? A. — Yes.
Q. — There is no other producing property on the limit which has been sold,
outside the Waldman and O'Brien property. A. — None that I know of.
Q. — And the Waldman and O'Brien properties have not yet produced any
ore which has been shipped ? A. — Well, I do not think they have, but Waldman
has a shipment nearly ready.
Q. — Do you know how far down they are with the Waldman shaft ? A. —
Only as they tell me.
Q. — Have you been on the property lately ? A. — I was about three weeks
ago.
Q. — Were they down about a hundred feet then ? A. — I think they were.
Q. — How much ore had then been taken out. A. — Oh, I saw a good pile,
but do not know how much exactly. It was silver and cobalt.
By Mr. CLARK (Centre Bruce.)
Q. — You said you spent a good deal of time and money in prospecting
before you put in your tender ? A< — We had men go over the whole property.
Q. — You said there were a number prospecting? A. — Yes, there were a
large number of people on the property.
Q. — Anyone else have the same privilege ? A. — Yes.
Q. — If the criticisms made that such opportunity were not given and the
sale was brought on hurriedly, and people did not have an ample opportunity
of examining the property, there is nothing in it? A. — No, there was no
attempt to sell before everybody had an opportunity.
Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — My hon. friend asked you about the depth of the shaft on the Waldman
mine, and how much ore had been shipped. Mr. Waldman did not get his
property until July or August? A. — He got it in June. Waldman was the
quickest man, and went to work at once. He put a large gang on the land to
strip it.
Q. — Mr. Waldman is getting machinery to work and is losing no time to
get his ore out and shipped ? A. — It is wondjerful the amount of work he has
put upon the property. Waldman went in and spent a great deal of time and
money.
Mr. McGARRY.
Q. — I understand he has a lot of ore up at the present time? A. — Yes.
Q. — And as far as you know it is a fair showing? A. — Yes, there is
some very good ore.
Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — Well, what time was the discovery made on the Waldman property?
A. — I think it was about thirty days after the time he bought it. I could tell
more correctly but I have no record with me.
Q. — When you bid for your property you thought it was in a likely
locality ? A. — I bought that property because the indications were good.
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Q. — -You thought it was in a good district, and as good a location as in
any part of the Gillies Limit? A. — I thought it was a good place, but still
there was nothing to give us any indication except the rock formation.
Q. — Do you think the sale was properly advertised? A. — If you were
up there before the sale and saw the number of prospectors you would have
thought is was pretty well advertised.
Q. — Six months or a year ago the Gillies Limit was said to be a rich
district ? A. — It was said to be.
Q. — As rich as any valuable district with mines in it ? A. — There were
people who thought so.
Q. — What did you think about it? A. — I thought it was a promising
property. ,
Q. — As good as anything you knew of? A. — As good as anything else.
By Mr. MCGARRY.
Q. — But the surface was such that you could get practically no information
by simply looking at it ? A. — Yes.
Q. — Did you know of the Waldman discovery previous to the time of
selling your land? A. — No.
JQ. — Hence, if you had known of it, you would not have sold for the price
you did? A. — No.
Q. — So up to the time you sold you did not know of the discovery?
A.— No.
Q. — You got $30,000 without that knowledge? A. — Yes.
By Mr. CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — If you held your property for a year you might not have got what
you paid for it I A. — Not without a discovery.
By Mr. SHILLINGTON.
Q. — It's a fact that some of our most eminent mining engineers turned
the whole proposition down ? A'.1 — We all know that.
By Mr CLARKE (Northumberland.)
Q. — Has this Waldman property a capital stock? A. — Yes.
Q.— Of what amount ? A.— $2,500,000 I think.
Q. — Have you any idea as to the extent to which the stock has been sold
A. — I do not know, perhaps it was increased greatly after the discovery.
The witness was discharged and the Committee adjourned.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 87
EXHIBIT A.
Statement of moneys expended by Mr. Sothmann on the two cars,
"Mitchell" and "Oldsmobile."
Improvements, as per voucher $373 63
Carburetor, tires repaired and fixing up 100 00
Labor of Machinist (2 months) 120 00
Speedometer, pumps, jack 75 00
Interrupter 18 00
$686 63
March 4th, 1909.
1 Pierce, 36 h.p., 6 cylinder $5,200
1 Olds, 60 h.p., 6 cylinder, 7 people 4,300
1 Eussell, 45 h.p., 4 cylinder 4,250
1 Mitchell, 36 h.p., 4 cylinder 1,650
1 Olds, 36 h.p., 4 cylinder 1,600
$17,000
March 4th, 1909.
1 Stoddard, 45 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 people $3,900
1 Eussell, 45 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 (7) people 4,500
1 Olds, 60 h.p., 6 cylinder, 7 people 4,300
1 Mitchell, 36 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 people 1,650
1 Olds, 36 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 people 1,600
Gas, oil tank, tools 305
$16,255
March 4th, 1909.
1 Pierce Arrow, 36 h.p., 6 cylinder, 4 people, complete eq $5,200
1 Stoddard Dayton, 45 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 people, complete eq. .... 3,900
1 -Eussell, 45 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 (7) people, complete eq 4,500
1 Mitchell, 36 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 people, complete eq 1,650
1 Olds, 36 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 people, complete eq 1,600
Gas and oil tank, $175 ; tools, $55, $75 305
$17,155
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EXHIBIT B.
Excerpt, from minutes of meeting of the Commission held March 4th,
1909.
A meeting of the Commission was held on Thursday, March 4th, 1909,
at the office of the Chairman, Parliament Buildings, there being present the
Chairman and Commissioners Hendrie and McNaught.
The purchase of automobiles for the use of the Commission and staff was
taken up and carefully considered. The following list was decided upon,
except that prices on the Pierce^ Olds and Russell be reduced 5 per cent, on
the total price set out.
1 Pierce, 36 h.p., 6 cylinder $5,200
1 Olds, 60 h.p., 6 cylinder 4,300
1 Russell, 45 h.p., 4 cylinder 4,500
1 Mitchell, 36 h.p., 4 cylinder 1,650
1 Olds, 36 h.p., 4 cylinder 1,600
$17,250
March 4th, 1909.
1 Pierce, 36 h.p., 6 cylinder $5,200
1 'Olds, 60 h.p., 6 cylinder, 7 people 4,300
1 Russell, 45 h.p., 4 cylinder 4,250
1 Mitchell, 36 h.p., 4 cylinder 1,650
1 Olds, 36 h.p., 4 cylinder 1,600
$17,000
March 4th, 1,909.
1 Stoddard, 45 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 people $3,900
1 Russell, 45 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 (7) people 4,500
1 Olds, 60 h.p., "6 cylinder, 7 people 4,300
1 Mitchell, 36 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 people 1,650
1 Olds, 36 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 people 1,600
Gas, oil tank, tools 305
$16,255
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 89
March 4th, 1909.
1 Pierce Arrow, 36 h.p., 6 cylinder, 4 people, complete eq $5,200
1 Stoddard Dayton, 45 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 people, complete eq 3,900
1 Russell, 45 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 (7) people, complete eq 4,500
1 Mitchell, 36 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 people, complete eq 1,650
1 Olds, 36 h.p., 4 cylinder, 5 people, complete eq 1,600
Gas and oil tank, $175 ; tools, $55, $75 ; 305
$17,155
EXHIBIT C.
The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited,
Toronto, Ont, Feb. 16th, 1909.
P. W. Sothmann, Esq.,
Chief Engineer, Hydro-Electric Commission, Toronto.
Dear Sir: —
Confining our conversation to even date, we can supply you with one
48 h.p., 6 cylinder Pierce Suburban or Limousine car, with equipment as per
catalogue, and enumerated in our letter of the llth inst. This includes two
extra tires, and, in fact, everything that is requisite for the running of the
car, for the sum of $7,875.
Referring to the Dayton 45 h.p., we can supply you with a Dayton 45
h.p. car, with full equipment, two extra tires, top, glass front and speedometer,
for $3,900.
The enclosed car would be very convenient in bad weather, as it could
be used under all conditions.
Yours truly,
AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co., LTD.
P.S. — We have only two -Pierce cars left of our 190.9 allotment, one 30
and one 48. We wired yesterday for two extra cars, but cannot get them, as
all Pierce cars are sold for the season of 1909.
"W. S. S.»
90 APPENDIX Xo. 1. 1910
EXHIBIT D.
The Oldsmobile Co. of Canada/ Limited.
Toronto, Canada,
Feb. 22nd, 1909.
Mr. Peter W. Sothmann,
Chief Engineer, Hydro-Electric Power Commission, City.
Dear Sir:—
In reference to our conversation on Saturday last, I take pleasure in
giving you the information asked for at that time regarding prices, etc. The
two cars in which you were interested are known as our Model " D," which is
of the 4-cylinder type, and our Model " Z," which is of the 6-cylinder type.
Our list prices on these cars without equipment, such as top, front, etc., are
$3,000.00 and $4,750.00 respectively, and these same cars list in the States
at $2,750.00 and $4,250.00, so that you see our regular selling list is only
about 10 per cent, increase, against the 35 per cent, duty which you would
have to pay on American-made cars.
The writer understands that you want any cars which you purchase
equipped with the following accessories : — Top, wind shield, speedometer, clock,
tire brackets, two extra tires with cases for same, and tire-skidding chains.
These extras list as follows: —
Top $125 00
Front 65 00
Speedometer % 25 00
Clock 28 00
Tire irons 20 00
Tire covers 10 00
Two extra- tires, shoes and tubes. ... 92 00
Tire chains 13 00.
Magneto 150 00
$528 00
On the cars mentioned above, with the extras named, we beg to quote you
prices as follows:— For the Model " D," $3,000; and for the Model " Z,"
$4,300. These prices are considerably below anything we have ever con-
sidered before, .believing that the fact of such prominent engineers as yourself
and associates having selected the Oldsmobile as being the car most suitable
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 91
for your work will more than repay us for any monetary loss in the advertising
which will accrue therefrom.
We do not believe that it is necessary to give you any information or
details regarding the car at this time, inasmuch as I have gone over this
thoroughly with you in our conversations, and you are presently acquainted
with our product of a couple of years ago, inasmuch as you are driving one
of our previous, models. Needless to say. we have greatly improved our car
since that time, and are now ready at all times to go into detailed comparisons
with any automobile on the market, at whatever price it may be sold.
Trusting that the writer may have an opportunity of going before your
directors and personally outline our product, I beg to remain,
Yours very truly,
W. L. STONEBURN,
City Sales Manager.
EXHIBIT E.
Canada Cycle & Motor Co., Limited,
Toronto Junction, March 3rd, 1909.
Hon. Adam Beck,
c/o Queen's Hotel, Toronto, Ont.
My Dear Mr. Beck: —
Following our conversation this afternoon I wish to confirm, in writing,
a few of the points discussed with reference to motor cars for the use of the
Commission. I have already furnished your chief engineer, Mr. Sothmann,
with detailed specifications of the two cars I recommended for your service.
The price of these cars, with all the special equipment required, is $4,750.00
and $2,850.00 respectively. I gave him a price of $4,500.00 and $2,650.00,
and am not able to lower this price and (maintain the quality of our cars and
provide for the attention that we give to our customers. Mr. E. B. Ryckman,
first . vice-president of our company, however, authorized me to state that we
would put in the two cars fully equipped, as shown in the appended sheet, for
$7,000.00.
As Canadian manufacturers we particularly desire to see our car selected
for the Commission's own work, but if selected for any work, I have this to
say with regard to our guarantee : —
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That we will not only supply free any part that may break from any cause
except accident or abuse, but will replace such part free of charge for either
material or work, at our factory or any of our branch houses, within the period
of one year.
We feel positive of the merits of our goods, and are prepared to stand
behind our cars to the fullest extent. If they are selected for the use of the
Commission, I will undertake that the cars will be a source of satisfaction to
you, as we are determined to make them a standing advertisement for ourselves.
I beg to remain,
Yours faithfully,
T. B. RUSSELL,
General Manager.
EXHIBIT F.
The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited,
Toronto, Ont, Feb. llth, 1910.
P. W. Sothmann, Esq.,
Chief Engineer, Hydro-Electric Commission, Toronto.
Dear Sir: —
Confirming our conversation of even date, we will supply you with a
Model "A" Stoddard Dayton, 35 h.p., 4-cylinder car, equipped with cape
top, plate-glass wind shield, 60-mile speedometer, full kit of tools, repair kit
and tire pump, and two extra tires, Bosch magneto, two head lights, gas burn-
ing; two side lights, oil burning; one tail light, oil burning, for the sum of
$3,200, f.o.b. Toronto.
The Pierce and Dayton cars are each leaders in their class. We are quite
satisfied, however, that the Pierce car would be the better car for the strenuous
work for which you will use it.
Yours truly,
AUTOMOBILE & StrrPLr Co., LTD.
Per W. S. Smith.
Edu-. VII. APPIvXDIX Xo. 1. 93
EXHIBIT G.
Canada Cycle & Motor Company, Limited.
. Toronto Junction, Feb. 23rd, 1909.
Mr. P. W. Sothmann,
Hydro-Electric Power Commission,
Bay and Richmond Streets, Toronto.
Dear Sir:—
Following our conversation last night, we have pleasure now in submitting
herewith our proposition for equipping the Hydro-Electric Power Commission
with automobiles for their service. Such equipment to consist of two cars ; one
a " Russell " 50 h.p. car, as described in our catalogue, copy of which we sub-
mit herewith. If any further information is required with regard to the cars,
we will be pleased to furnish you with blue prints, etc., although we believe
that your engineers have been pretty thoroughly through our works and over
the design of our car, and are familiar with its construction. The equipment
included with the two cars would be as follows : —
Model " K " 50 h.p. touring car, seated to carry seven persons, including
driver, two of the seats to be detachable.
Wheel base, 122 inches.
Wheels, 3 Gin. diameter, with 4%in. tires in front and 5in. in rear.
Large head lights and generator.
Folding glass front.
Extension cape cart rod top, with storm curtains.
Trunk rack on the real.
Clock.
Speedometer.
Double ignition, including batteries and Eisemann magneto.
Tire irons.
Two extra tires, complete with tubes and waterproof jackets for same.
Pair of chains — for rear wheels.
The same to be delivered to you complete for the sum of $4,750.00.
Model " H " 30 h.p. touring car, llOin. wheel base, with seating capacity
for five people, equipped with—
24in. x 4in. tires.
Headlights and generator.
Folding glass front.
Speedometer.
Clock.
Chains for rear wheels.
Extension cape cart top, with storm curtains.
94 APPENDIX No. 1. 1910
Tire irons.
Two extra tires, with tubes and jackets.
Double ignition, including batteries and Eisemann magneto.
To be delivered complete, as above, for the sum of $2,850.00.
In submitting the above proposition, we do so believing that the cars will
be entirely suitable for your service, and; we guarantee them for that work.
In connection with the guarantee we would point out that, where the
ordinary manufacturer's guarantee provides for free replacement of parts, this
leaves the work of installing the parts to be done by the owner. Being Cana-
dian manufacturers and having branches in both Hamilton and Toronto, we are
prepared to carry out any guarantee work, such as supplying the parts and
doing the work, at either of these branches, free of charge.
We are really the only firm manufacturing automobiles in Canada, as
other firms, similarly engaged, import the whole chassis in almost complete
from from the United States, and simply assemble the bodies and wheels on
them here.
If there are any points about our car on which you will require any
further information, we shall be glad to give it to you, or if you desire to con-
sult with the owners of types of cars on which we are submitting a proposition,
we will give a list of these.
We are anxious to obtain this order from the Commission, and if favoured
with it will give it our best attention, and endeavour to make the cars sup-
plied a source of convenience and satisfaction to you, as well as a standing
advertisement for ourselves.
Awaiting your further favours, we are,
Yours very truly,
T. B. RUSSELL,
General Manager.
EXHIBIT H.
The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited,
Toronto, Ont, Feb. llth, 1909.
P. W. Sothmann, Esq.,
Chief Engineer, Hydro-Electric Power Commission, Toronto.
Dear Sin-
Confirming our conversation of even date, we will supply you with a
Pierce Arrow 36 h.p. 6 cylinder car, shown on page 20 in Pierce catalogue,
seating capacity four people, equipment as follows: —
Edw. VII. APPENDIX Xo. 1. 95
2 Head lights, gas burning. Tires Q.D., B.T., 24 x 4 front,
2 Side lights, oil burning. 24 x 4% rear.
1 Tail light, oil burning. Upholstering optional.
1 Gas generator. Colour optional.
I Large tube horn. Full set tools, tire repair kit.
4 Hartford shock absorbers. Tire pump.
1 Trunk rack. 1 set carrying irons.
1 Foot rest. Leather parcel carriers.
1 Coat or robe rail. Pockets for carrying parcels on doors
1 Stewart & Clark 60-mile combina- and back of front seat.
tion clock speedometer. 1 gallon lubricating oil.
1 Gasoline gauge. 1 can grease.
1 Muffler cut-out. 1 Jack.
6 Extra spark plugs. Yale locks, locking hood, tool box and
1 Extra set parts. grease box.
2 Extra tires. 1 Pantasote cape top.
1 Wind shield, folding.
Price, f.o.b. Toronto, $5,200.
In offering you this car, we feel that we are offering you without doubt
the best car sold on the American market for your purpose. The car is fully
guaranteed, and with proper care can be run any day that any wheeled vehicle
can be driven. In fact, it is a limited train in itself.
The six cylinder car is a much, better proposition than a four cylinder car.
The wear and tear on the car is much less in a six cylinder car than a four
cylinder car, owing to the constant tort given by the six cylinders.
We would be glad to have you visit the Pierce factory and inspect the car
as it is made and put together, knowing that a mechanic of your experience
would thoroughly appreciate the care taken in building Pierce cars.
As we have but one of these cars, it will be necessary, in order to secure
it, to place your order at the earliest possible moment.
Trusting that we may be favoured with your esteemed order, we remain,
Yours truly,
AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co., LTD.
Per W. 8. Smith.
96 APPENDIX No. 1. 1910
Bank of Montreal,
Toronto, March 5th, 1910.
Personal.
P. W. Sotham, Esq.,
Chief Engineer,
Hydro-Electric Power Commission,
Toronto.
Dear Sin-
As requested by yours of the 4th inst., we enclose herewith your savings
cheque, dated May 19th, 1909, for $1,500, in favour of Mr. J. F. Beck.
Please acknowledge receipt.
Yours truly,
(Sgd.)
DHB/S Manager.
Enc. 1
March Yth, 1910.
Bank of Montreal,
Yonge and Front Streets,
City.
Dear Sir:—
I have received your valued favour of March 5th, with the cheque enclosed.
Yours truly,
Account No. 11438. Toronto, May 19th, 1909.
To the Bank of Montreal,
Savings Department.
Pay to Mr. J. F. Beck,
Fifteen hundred dollars.
$1.500. P. W. SOTHMANN.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 97
Private.
March 4th, 1910.
Manager of Savings Dept.,
Bank of Montreal,
Yonge and Front Streets,
City.
Dear Sir: —
Would you kindly return to me at once my cheque of Jlay 22nd, made in
favour of Mr. Beck for the sum of $1,500.
Kindly have same forwarded to this office, and oblige,
Yours truly,
21 Nov. A.O. 47.
Toronto, Canada, June llth, 1908. Series No.
On or before the 18th day of November, 1908, for value received, I
promise to pay to The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited, or order, at The
Bank of Toronto, Toronto, the sum of Seventy-five dollars, $75.00, with in-
terest at six per cent. (6%) per annum until paid. $2.00 interest — $77.00.
I hereby acknowledge having received a copy of the Bargain made for
the property for which this note is given.
PAID, (F. Cowan). P. W. SOTHMANN.
Toronto, Nov. 21, 1908.
Received from Mr. P. W. Sothmann, Seventy-seven dollars, per note due
to-day.
$77.00. THE AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co., Limited
Per F. Cowan.
4 Dec. A.O. 48.
Toronto, Canada, June llth, 1908. Series No.
On or before the eighteenth day of December, 1908, for value received,
T promise to pay to The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited, or order, at The
Bank of Toronto, Toronto, the sum of Seventy-five dollars, ($75.00) with
interest at 6% (six per cent.) per annum until paid. $2.16 interest — $77.16.
98 APPENDIX No. 1. 1910
I hereby acknowledge having received a copy of the bargain made for the
property for which this note is given.
Paid, (F. Cowan). P. W. SOTHMANN.
21 Jan. A.O. 49.
Toronto, Canada, June llth, 1908. Series No.
On or before the 18th day of January, 1909, for value received, I promise
to pay to the Automobile & Supply Co., Limited, or order, at the Bank of
Toronto, Toronto, the sum of Seventy-five Dollars ($75.00), with interest at
6% per annum until paid. $2.76 interest — $77.76.
I hereby acknowledge having received a copy of the bargain made for the
property for which this note is given.
P. W. SOTHMANN.
21 Feb. A.O. 50.
Toronto, Canada, June llth, 1908. Series No.
On or before the 18th day of February, 1909, for value received, I
promise to pay to the Automobile & Supply Co., Limited, or order, at the Bank
of Toronto, Toronto, the sum of Seventy-five Dollars ($75.00), with interest at
6 per cent. (%) per annum until paid. $3.14 interest — $78.14.
I hereby acknowledge having received a copy of the bargain made for the
property for which this note is given.
PAID. P. W. SOTHMANN.
Toronto, Feb. 22nd, 1909.
Keceived from Mr. Sotham, Twenty-eight and 14/100 Dollars for Note
due 2/22/1903.
THE AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co., LIMITED.
.14. Per F. Cowan.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX Xo. 1. 99
21 March. A.O. 51.
Toronto, Canada, June llth, 1908. Series No.
On or before the 18th day of March, 1909, for value received, I promise
to pay to The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited, or order, at the Bank of
Toronto, Toronto, the sum of Seventy-five Dollars ($75.00), with interest at
six per cent. (%) per annum until paid. $3.48 interest — $78.48.
I hereby acknowledge having received a copy of the bargain made for
the property for which this note is given.
PAID. P. W. SOTHMANN.
Toronto, March 20th, 1909.
Eeceived from Mr. Southman, Seventy-eight and 48/100 Dollars, for
note due to-day.
THE AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co., LIMITED.
$78.48. Per F. Cowan, Atty.
21 Apr. A.O. 52.
Toronto, Canada, June llth, 1908. Series No.
On or before the 18th day of April, 1909, for value received, I promise
to pay to the Automobile &3 Supply Co., Limited, or order, at the Bank of
Toronto, Toronto, the sum of Seventy-five Dollars ($75.00), with interest at
six per cent. (6%) per annum until paid. $3.87 interest — $78.87.
I hereby acknowledge having received a copy of the bargain made for
the property for which this note is given.
P. W. SOTHMANN.
Automobile & Supply Co., Limited.
Paid
Note
May 22nd, $39.25.
G.
100 APPENDIX Xo. I. 1910
21 June, 1909. A.O. 54.
Toronto, Canada, June llth, 1908. Series No.
On or before the 18th day of June, 1909, for value received, I promise
to pay to The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited, or order, at the Bank of
Toronto, Toronto, the sum of Seventy-five Dollars ($75.00), with interest at
six per cent. (6%) per annum until paid. $4.65 interest — $79.65.
I hereby acknowledge having received a copy of the bargain made for
the property for which this note is given.
P. W. SOTHMANN.
Agents for the Celebrated 6824
Pierce- Arrow, Koyal Tourist, Telephone M. 6825
Stoddard-Dayton, Mitchell, 6826
Kissel, Reo.
i
The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited,
24 Temperance Street,
Toronto, Ont., Sept. 23rd, 1908.
Mr. P. W. Sothman,
276 Eusholme Road,
City.
Dear Sir:—
We are in receipt of $75.00 in settlement of your note due Sept. 21st,
for which please accept our thanks. This, however, is not settlement in full,
as there is interest on this note amounting to $1.30, which you will see as per
statement enclosed.
Kindly favour us with amount to cover this, and oblige,
Yours truly,
AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co., LTD.
Diet. J.A.C.M. Per J. A. Mollet,
Enc. Acct.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 101
Statement. Phone M. 6824
k y -; _ " 24 Temperance Street. 6825
P. W. Sothman,
In acct. with
The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited,
High-grade Gasoline and Electric Vehicles.
To note due Sept. 21st $75 00
" Interest on same 1 30
$76 30
Sept. 23rd. By cash, $75.00 75 00
Balance due $1 30
Order ISTo. Date
The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited,
22-26 Temperance Street, Toronto, Ont.
Please enter my order for a Model " Surrie Rambler," 5475 Auto-
mobile. Price to be $625.00 f.o.b., Toronto. Deposit of $300.00 is hereby
acknowledged, and balance of $ is to be paid upon delivery of auto-
mobile. Date of delivery to be on or about May 2nd, 1908.
It is understood that the automobile purchased by me is guaranteed by
manufacturer the under the guarantee
of the Manufacturers' Association.
Specifications :
Name of Car.
Style of Body.
Colour of Body.
Striping of Gear.
Colour of Gear.
Trimming.
Size of Tires.
Make of Tires.
Rims.
Gear Ratio.
Monogram.
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Style of Top.
Top Cover.
Seat Cover.
Extra Tires.
Second-hand.
AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co.,
w. s. s.
Receipt of copy of this order is hereby acknowledged.
(Signed)
Copy.
$140.00. June llth, 1908.
Received from P. W. Sothman the sum of One hundred and forty Dol-
lars.
AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co., LIMITED.
Canadian Agents 6824
for the celebrated Telephone M. 6825
Pierce- Arrow, Eoyal 6826
Tourist, Stoddard-
Dayton, Mitchell,
Kissel, Reo.
The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited,
24 Temperance Street,
Toronto, Ont, July 27th, 1908.
Mr. P. W. Sothman,
276 Rnsholme Road, City.
Dear Sir:—
We enclose herewith your note for $75.00, which was paid on the 21st.
Yours truly,
AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co.,
Diet. J.A.C.M. Per J. A. Mollet.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 103
July 21. A.O. 42.
Toronto, Canada, June llth, 1908. Series No.
On or before the 18th day of July, 1908, for value received, I promise
to pay to The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited, or order, at the Bank of
Toronto, Toronto, the sum of Seventy-five Dollars ($75.00), with interest at
6% (six per cent.) per annum until paid. .50 interest — $75.50.
1 hereby acknowledge having received a copy of the bargain made for
the property for which this note is given.
P. W. SOTHMANN.
Agents for the Celebrated 6824
Fierce-Arrow, Royal Tourist, Telephone M. 6825
Stoddard-Dayton, Mitchell, 6826
Kissel, Reo.
The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited,
24 Temperance Street,
Toronto, Ont., July 20th, 1908.
Mr. P. W. Sotham,
Ont. Power Commission,
City.
Dear Sir: —
Your note for $75 came due on the 18th. Will you please give this and
your sundries account your prompt attention, and oblige ? The note is at the
Bank of Toronto, Wellington and Church Streets, City.
Yours truly,
AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co.,
Per J. A. Mollet,
Dirt. W. S. S. -Acct.
104 APPENDIX No. 1. 1910
Agents for the celebrated 6824
Fierce-Arrow, Royal Tourist, Telephone M. 6825
Stoddard-Dayton, Mitchell, 6826
Kissel, Reo.
The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited,
24 Temperance Street,
Toronto, Ont, Sept. 5th, 1908.
Mr. P. W. Sotham,
City.
Dear Sir: —
We enclose herewith your note due August 21st, which has been paid.
Yours truly,
AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co., LIMITED.
Diet. J.A.C.M. Per J. A. Mollet.
21 Aug. A.O. 44.
Toronto, Canada, June llth, 1908. Series No.
On or before the 18th day of August, 1908, for value received, I promise
to pay to The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited, or order, at the Bank of
Toronto, the sum of Seventy-five Dollars ($75.00), with interest at six per
cent. (6%) per annum until paid. .87 interest — $75.87.
I hereby acknowledge having received a copy of the bargain made for
the property for which this note is given.
P. W. SOTHMANIV.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 105
Agents for the celebrated 6824
Fierce-Arrow, Royal Tourist, Telephone M. 6825
Stoddard-Dayton, Mitchell, 6826
Kissel, Reo.
The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited,
24 Temperance Street,
Toronto, Aug. 17th, 1908.
Received from P. W. Sothman, $75.90, in settlement of note due August
21st, 1908.
THE AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co., LIMITED,
Per J. A. Mollet.
21 Sept. A.O. 45.
Toronto, Canada, June llth, 1908. Series No.
On or before the 18th day of September, 1908, for value received, I
promise to pay to The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited, or order, Seventy-
five Dollars ($75.00), with interest at six per cent. (6%) per annum until
paid. $1.30 interest — $76.30.
I hereby acknowledge having received a copy of the bargain made for the
property for which this note is given.
P. W. SOTHMAM.
Toronto, Sept. 23rd, 1908.
Received from P. W. Sothman, Seventy-five Dollars, note due Sept. 21st,
1908. Still owes $1.30 for interest.
THE AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co., LIMITED,
Per J. A. Mollet,
$75.00. Acct.
106 APPENDIX No. 1. 191 '
Agents for the celebrated 6824
Fierce-Arrow, Royal Tourist, Telephone M. 6825
Stoddard-Dayton, Mitchell, 6826
Kissel, Reo.
The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited,
24 Temperance Street,
Toronto, Out, Sept. 23rd., 1908.
Mr. P. W. Sothman,
276 Rusholme Road,
City.
Dear Sir:—
We are in receipt of $75.00 in settlement of your note due Sept. 21st, for
which please accept our thanks. This, however, is not settlement in full, as
there is interest on this note amounting to $1.30, which you will see as per
statement enclosed.
Kindly favour us with amount to cover this, and oblige,
Yours truly,
AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co., LIMITED.
Diet. J.A.C.M. Per J. A. Mollet,
Enc. Acct.
Statement. Phone M. 6824.
24, Temperance Street. 6825
P. W. Sothman,
In acct. with
The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited,
High-grade Gasoline and Electric Vehicles.
To note due Sept. 21st $75 00
Interest on same 1-30
u
$76 30
Sept. 23rd. By Cash, $75.00 75 00
Balance due $1 30
•Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 107
21 Oct. A.O. 46.
Toronto, Canada, June llth, 1908. Series No.
On or before the 18th day of October, 1908, for value received, I promise
to pay to The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited, or order, at the Bank of
Toronto, Toronto, the sum of Seventy-five Dollars ($75.00), with interest at
six per cent. (6%) per annum until paid. $1.62 interest — $76.62.
I hereby acknowledge having received a copy of the bargain made for the
property for which this note is given.
P. W. SOTHMANN.
Received payment, 21/10/08,
J. A. M.
6824
Telephone M. 6825
6826
The Automobile & Supply Co., Limited,
24 Temperance Street,
Toronto, Ont, Oct. 28th, 1908.
P. W. Sotham, Esq.,
Continental Life Bldg.,
City.
Dear Sir :—
We are enclosing you herewith your note due Oct. 21, which was paid
by you, and for which please accept our thanks.
Yours truly,
AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co., LTD.,
Diet. J.A.C.M. Per J. A. Mollei.
Enc.
Toronto, Oct 21st, 1908.
Received from P. W. Sothman, Seventy-six and 60/100 Dollars in full
for note due Oct. 21st, 1908.
THE AUTOMOBILE & SUPPLY Co., LIMITED,
$76.60. Per J. A. Mollet.
108 APPENDIX Xo. 1. 1910
Distribution
To Account.
\7oucher No. 1927. Kegistered Fol. 46.
Amount, $1,788:05,
In favour of
P. W. Sothman,
For Expenses on European Trip.
Checked and entered.
Accountant.
PAID.
Date, Oct. 20, 1909.
Cash Book Folio 46.
By Check No. 1883.
i
Sec'y-Treas.
Audited
Auditor.
Hydro-Electric Power Commission.
To P W. Sothman, Dr.
For Expenses on European Trip $1,788 05
Date October 20, 1909.
Received from Hydro-Electric Power Commission the sum of Seventeen
Hundred and Eighty-Eight .05 Dollars, in full settlement of the above
account.
Approved, Approved for payment,
Correct.
Accountant. Secretary. Chairman.
NOTE. — Please sign, date and return to H. E. P. Commission, Toronto.
Edw. VII. APPENDIX No. 1. 109
Hydro-Electric Power Commission.
To F. P. Mansfeldt, Dr.
For Expenses on European Trip $747 23
Date Oct. 20th, 1909.
Received from Hydro-Electric Power Commission, the sum of Seven
Hundred and forty-seven 23/100 Dollars, in full settlement of the above
account.
(Sgd.) F. P. MAFSFELDT.
Correct, Approved,
Accountant. Secretary.
Approved for payment,
(Sgd.) A. BECK,
Chairman.
NOTE. — Please sign, date and return to H. E. P. Commission, Toronto.
Voucher No. 1929. Registered Fol. 46.
Amount, $747.23,
In favour of
F. P. Mansfeldt,
For Expenses on European Trip.
Checked and entered.
" E. C. 0.,"
Accountant.
PAID.
Date, Oct. 20, 1909.
Cash Book Folio 46.
By Check No. 1885.
E. C. SOTTELL/'
Sec'y-Trea*.
INDEX TO REPORT AND EVIDENCE.
ABMSTBONG, S. A.
His Evidence re Permits and Numbers for Automobile Cars. . 68-69
Re Tags for 80-81
BECK, HON. ADAM :
His Evidence re Legal Expenses, Hydro-Electric Commission . . 24-30
Ee Automobiles for 30
Re Consulting Engineers 32
Re Rights-of-Way 33-35
•COLONIZATION ROADS:
Charlton to Gowganda 15
Provisions, etc 15
EXHIBITS :
Re Sale and Purchase of Automobiles for Hydro-Electric Com-
mission 87"
FOBEST-RANGING :
Re Wages of Rangers 12-14
GIBSON, THOMAS W. :
His Evidence re Gillies Limit Sales, etc. 21-24-35-36-41-74-78
Re Drills 78-80
GILLABD, H. D. :
His Evidence re Fire-ranging 13-14
GILLIES LIMIT:
Timber Destroyed by Fire 14
Gibson, Thomas W., his Evidence re Locations, Sales and
Drills, etc . .21-24-35-36-41-76-80
Exploration of 35
Mining Sales in 36-41
Young, A. J., his Evidence in re 64-67
Madden, S. D., his Evidence in re 81-86
GOWGANDA TOWN PLOTS:
Sale of Lots in 73-75
GBANT, W. C. :
His Evidence re Purchase and Sale of Automobiles 47-49
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INDEX 1910
HYDEO-ELECTBIC POWEE COMMISSION:
Automobiles 14-15
Legal Expenses, Fees, etc 15
Mr. Pope's Evidence re Expenses, Right-of-Way, etc 16-19
Re Automobiles 19-21
Mr. Beck's Evidence re Legal Expenses 24-30
Re Automobiles 30-31
Re Consulting Engineers
Re Right-of-Way 33-35
Mr. W. S. Smith's Evidence re Purchase of Automobiles 42-46-50-57
Mr. W. G. Grant's Evidence re Purchase of Automobiles 47-49
Mr. P. W. Sothmann's Evidence re Purchase and Sale of
Automobiles 57-64-69-73
Exhibits re Sales 87
MADDEN, S. D. :
His Evidence re Gillies Limit Sales .. . . 81-86
MINES :
Receipts from Sales 36-41
Mr. T. W. Gibson's Evidence re Sales in Gillies Limit
21-24-35-36-41-74-78-80
POPE, W. W. :
His Evidence re Legal Expenses in Connection with Hydro-
Electric 16-21
PEIVILEGE :
A Question of 43-46
REPOET OF COMMITTEE:
Report and Minutes 3-12
Amendment Proposed to Motion for Adoption 11
SMITH, W. S. :
His Evidence re Sales of Automobiles 42-46-50-57
SOTHMANN, P. W. :
His Evidence re Purchase and Sale of Automobiles 57-64-69-73
SUEVEY :
Expenses of, in New Districts 14
TIMBEE :
Compensation for, DestroredJby Eire 14
9243 134 .
YOUNG, A. J. :
His Evidence re Gillies Limit . 64-67