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JOURNALS 


OF  THE 


LEGISLATIVE   ASSEMBLY 

OF  THE 

PROVINCE  OF  ONTARIO 


From  JANUARY  25th,  1910,  to  MARCH   19th,  1910 

(BOTH  DAYS  INCLUSIVE). 


IN   THE   TENTH    YEAR    OF   THE   REIGN   OF   OUR   SOVEREIGN  LORD 

KING   EDWARD   VII. 


BEING  THE  SECOND  SESSION  OF  THE  TWELFTH   LEGISLATURE    OF  ONTARIO, 


SESSION     1920. 

PRINTED  BY  ORDER  OF  THE  LEGISLATIVE  ASSEMBLY. 

Vol.  XLIV. 


TORONTO : 

Printed  and  Published  by  L.  K.  CAMERON,  Printer  to  the  King's  Most  Excellent  Majesty. 

1910 


Printed    by 

WILLIAM    BRIGGS, 

29-37  Richmond  Street  West, 

TORONTO 


INDEX 

TO  THE 

FORTY-FOURTH    VOLUME 

10  EDWARD   VII.,  1910 


BY  FIEE:— See  Fire. 

ACCOUNTS  PUBLIC: — See  Public  Accounts. 
ACTIONS,  LIMITATION  OF  : 

Bill  (No.  135),  introduced  respecting  the,  30.  Second  reading,  43. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  54.  Third  reading,  207.  E.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  34.) 

ADDEESS  : — See  Lieutenant-Governor. 
ADMINISTRATION  OF  JUSTICE* 

Bill  (No.  115),  introduced  respecting  the  expenses  of,  9.  Second  reading, 
15.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  26,  216,  225.  Third  reading, 
253.  E.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  41.) 

AGENTS: — See  Goods. 
AGRICULTURAL  ASSOCIATIONS  : 

Bill  (No.  144),  introduced  respecting,  46.  Second  reading,  53.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  68.  Third  reading,  165.  E.A.,  170. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  18.) 

AGRICULTURAL  COLLEGE: 

Eeport  presented,  211.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  29.)     Printed, 
AGRICULTURAL  AND  EXPERIMENTAL  UNION  : 

Eeport  presented,  211.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  81.)     Printed. 


INDEX 


AGRICULTURAL  SOCIETIES: 

1.  Bill  (No.  105),  introduced  respecting,  37.  Second  reading,  44.  House 
goes  inlto  Committee  on,  47.  Third  reading,  164.  RA.,  170, 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  19.) 

i2.  Keport  presented,  54.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  43.)     Printed. 
AGRICULTURE  AND  COLONIZATION  : 

Committee  appointed,  41.    No  report. 
AGRICULTURE,  DEPARTMENT  OF: 

1.  Bill  (No.  159),  introduced  respecting,  52.    Second  reading,  54.    House 

goes  into   Committee   on,    67.      Third   reading,    165.      E.A.,    170. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  ,17.) 

2.  Report  presented,  228.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  28.)     Printed. 
ALGONQUIN  NATIONAL  PARK: 

Bill  (No.  151),  introduced  to  establish,  51.  Second  reading,  54.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  67.  Third  reading,  221.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  17.) 

ALEXANDRIA,  TOWN  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  124,  guaranteeing  Bonds  of  Glen- 
garry Match  Company,  95.  Not  proceeded  ivith. 

ALIENS  : 

Bill  (No.  123),  introduced,  respecting  the  rights  of,  relative  to  Real 
Property,  10.  Second  reading,  16.  House  goes  into  Committee  on, 
25.  Third  reading,  153.  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  49.) 

APPEALS  TO  His  MAJESTY: 

Bill  (No.  109),  introduced  respecting,  in  His  Privyi  Council,  8.  Second 
reading,  15.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  26.  Third  reading,  153. 
R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.i  VII.,  c.  25.) 

ARCHIVES  : 

Report  presented,  194.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  51.}     Printed. 


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ART  COMMITTEE  : 

Appointed,  31.     No  report. 

ARTESIAN  WATER  COMPANY,  LIMITED  : 

Petition  for  Act  of  incorporation,  71.  Reported,  117.  Bill  (No.  48j, 
introduced  and  referred,  122.  Reported  withdrawn;  fees  remitted; 
195. 

ASSESSMENT  LAW: 

1.  Bill  (No.  167),  introduced  to  amend,  89.     Second  reading,  184.  House 

goes  into  Committee  on,  210,  256.     Third  reading,  256.     R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  88.) 

2.  Bill  (No.  182),  introduced  to  amend,  126.     Order  for  second  reading 

discharged,    184. 

3.  Report  of  Special  Committee  appointed  to  sit  during  Recess,  18. 

4.  Petitions  respecting,  30,  37,  46,  49,  53,  56,  62,  70,  72,  73,  77,  84,  95, 

102,  117,  130,  137,  180,  205,  244. 

ASSIGNMENTS  AND  PREFERENCES  : — See  Insolvent  Persons. 

AUDITOR  : 

Statement  of  presented,  27.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  57.)     Printed. 


DABY,  W.  W.: 

Question  as  to  re-imbursing,  for  certain  law  costs,  123. 

BAIL: — See  Police  Constables. 

BARRIE,  TOWN  OF: 

1.  Petition  for  Act  respecting,  28.  Reported,  62.  Bill  (No.  6),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  65.  Reported,  151.  Second  reading,  200.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  209.  Third  reading,  215.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  107.) 


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2.  Petition  for  Act  respecting  By-law  No.  663,  28.  Reported,  118.  Bill 
(No.  27),  introduced  and  referred,  122.  Reported,  152.  Second 
reading,  200.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  209.  Third  reading, 
215.  E.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  108.) 

BEE-KEEPERS  ASSOCIATION  : 

Report  presented,  211.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  37.)  Printed. 
BEES,  SWARMS  OF: 

Bill  (No.  124),  introduced  respecting  the  rights  of  property  in,  37. 
Second  reading,  44.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  47.  Third 
reading,  154.  E.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  Vll.  c.  48.)  See  Statute  Law 
Amendment  Act. 

BERLIN,  TOWN  or: 

Petition  for  Act  to  incorporate  as  a  City,  28.  Reported,  63.  Bill 
(No.  13),  introduced  and  referred,  66.  Reported  withdrawn;  fees 
remitted,  152. 

BILLS : 

1.  Referred  to  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills,  51,  121,  164.     Reported, 

58,  135-6,  178-10. 

2.  Referred  to  Railway  and  Municipal  Board,  65.     Reported,  129. 

3.  Reference  to  Committee  on  Private  Bills  discharged  and  Bill  referred 

to  Commissioners/  of  Estate  Bills,  164. 

4.  Introduced  nem.  con.,  172. 

5.  Restored  to  Order  Paper,  after  having  been  discharged,  151. 

6.  Titles  amended  at  third  reading,  154. 

7.  Recommitted,  164. 
BINDING: — See -Printing  and  Binding. 
BIRTHS,  MARRIAGES  AND  DEATHS: 

Report  presented,  101.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  19.)     Printed. 


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BOUNDARY  LINES: 

Bill  (No.  13),  introduced  respecting  disputes  concerning,  8.  Second 
reading,  15.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  24.  Third  reading,  215. 
K.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  33.) 

BRACEBRIDGE  AND  TRADING  LAKE  KAIL  WAY: — See  Statute  Law  Amendment 
Act. 

BRAMPTON,  TOWN  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  53.  Reported,  118.  Bill  (No.  39),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  121.  Reported,  213.  Second  reading,  227. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  240.  Third  reading,  255.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  100.) 

BRANTFORD,  CITY  OF  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting  and  the  John  H.  Stratford  Hospital,  55. 
Reported,  117.  Bill  (No.  41),  introduced  and  referred  to  the  Com- 
missioners of  Estate  Bills,  121.  Reported  and  referred  to  the  Com- 
mittee on  Private  Bills,  135-6.  Reported,  171.  Second  reading,  184. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  202.  Third  reading,  207.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  110.) 

BREAD : 

1.  Bill   (No.  180),  introduced  respecting  the  manufacture  and  sale  of, 

126.  Second  reading  and  referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee,  139. 
Reported,  181.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  218.  Third  reading, 
221.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  95.) 

2.  Petition  respecting,  89. 

BRUCE  MINES  AND  ALGOMA  RAILWAY: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  28.  Reported,  63.  Bill  (No.  13),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  66.  Reported,  85.  Second  reading,  91.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  116.  Third  reading,  127.  R.A.,  170. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  139.) 

BUDGET : 

Delivered  and  Debate  on  adjourned,  52,  61,  71,  76,  83.  Amendment 
negatived,  85-8.  See  Supply. 


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INDEX  1910 


BUFFALO  AND  FORT  ERIE  FERRY  KAIL  WAY  : 

Petition  for  Act  to  consolidate  and  amend  the  Acts  relating  to,  and 
to  change  name,  61.  Reported,  78.  Bill  (No.  52),  introduced  and 
referred,  125.  Reported;  title  amended,  196.  Second  reading,  208. 
House  goes  into  Committee. on,  226.  Third  reading,  229.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  138.) 


BURLINGTON  BEACH: — Question  as  to  issue  of  Debentures  for  Water  Works 
purposes,  etc.,  217.     See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 


QAMPBELLFORD,  TOWN  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  502,  28.  Reported,  50.  Bill 
(No.  2),  introduced  and  referred,  51.  Reported,  125.  Second  read- 
ing, 134.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  138.  Third  reading,  154. 
R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  111.) 

CANADA,  SUPREME  COURT  OF: 

Bill  (No.  110),  introduced  respecting  the  and  the  Exchequer  Court  of 
Canada,  8.  Second  reading,  15.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  24. 
Third  reading,  153.  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  25.) 

CANADIAN  NORTHERN  RAILWAY  : 

Return  ordered,  shewing  what  steps  taken  towards  building  a  section  of 
railway  into  the  clay  belt  of  Northern  Ontario,  159.  Presented,  212. 
(Sessional  Papers  No.  78.)  Not  printed. 

CEMETERY  COMPANIES: — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 
CHARITY  AID  ACT: 

Bill  (No.  187),  introduced  to  amend,  132.  Order  for  second  reading 
discharged,  143. 

CHARTERED  ACCOUNTANTS'  ACT: 

Bill  (No.  174),  introduced  to  revise  and  amend,  102.  Second  reading 
and  referred  to  the  Legal  Committee,  139.  Reported,  229.  House 
oroes  into  Committee  on;  third  reading,  245.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed. 
VII.  c.  79.) 


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CHILDREN,  NEGLECTED: 

Report  presented,  194.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  26.)     Printed. 

CLERGY  RESERVES  : 

Bill  (No.  157),  introduced  respecting  and  the  Upper  Canada  Grammar 
School  lands,  23.  Second  reading,  35.  House  goes  into  Committee 
on,  42.  Third  reading,  153.  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  10.) 

COBALT  LAKE  MINING  COMPANY,  LIMITED: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  117.  Reported,  130.  Bill  (No.  173),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  132.  Reported,  213.  Second  reading,  227. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  244.  Third  reading,  244,  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  112.) 

COBALT,  TOWN  OF: 

1.  Petition  for  Act  to  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  corporation 

of  and  the  Township  of  Coleman,  89.  Reported,  119.  Bill  (No.  99) ; 
introduced  and  referred,  121.  Reported,  213.  Second  reading,  227. 
House  s:oes  into  Committee  on,  240.  Third  reading,  254.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  112.) 

2.  Question  re  infraction  of  Liquor  License  Law;  fines  etc.,  199, 

COLLEGES  OR  UNIVERSITIES  : 

Question  as  to  what  sums  of  money  given  to,  by  Province,  217. 

COLONIZATION,  BUREAU  OF: 

Report  presented,  228.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  7-4.)     Printed. 

COLONIZATION  ROADS: 

Return  ordered,  shewing  total  amount  paid  for  inspection  and  overseeing 
work  done  on,  133.  Presented,  212.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  70.} 
Not  printed. 

COMMISSIONERS  OF  POLICE  : — See  Police. 


X  INDEX  1910 

COMMITTEES,  STANDING: 

1.  Resolution  re  appointment  of,  7,  31.     Appointed,   39. 

2.  Members  added  to,  46,  71. 

i 

CONSTABLES : 

Bill  (No.  119),  introduced  respecting,  9.  Second  reading,  15.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  72,  223.  Third  reading,  223.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  39.) 

CONVEYANCES,  SHORT  FORMS  OF: 

Bill  (No.  127),  introduced  respecting,  10.  Second  reading,  16.  House, 
goes  into  Committee  on,  25,  182.  Third  reading,  207.  E.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  53.) 

CORN  GROWERS'  ASSOCIATION: 

Report  presented,  211.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  35.)     Printed. 

COULTER,  LESTER  MCDONNELL: 

Petition  for  Act  empowering  him  to  practise  Medicine  in  Ontario,  30. 
Reported,  117.  Bill  (No.  26),  introduced  and  referred,  121. 
Reported,  152.  Second  reading,  166.  House  goes  into  Committee 
on,  185.  Third  reading,  196.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  166.) 

COUNCILS  OF  CONCILIATION: — See  Industrial  Disputes. 

COUNTY  COURTS  AND  DISTRICT  COURTS: 

Bill  (No.  140),  introduced  respecting,  11.  Second  reading,  17.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  159,  224,  233.  Third  reading,  254.  R.A.. 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  30.) 

COUNTY  JUDGES  ACT: — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 

CRIMINALS,  CONFIRMED  : 

Bill  (No.  184),  introduced  to  prevent  procreation  of,  Idiots,  Imbeciles  and 
Rapists,  132.  Order  for  second  reading  discharged,  146. 


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GROWN  WITNESSES: 

Bill  (No.  120),  introduced  to  provide  for  payment  of,  9.  Second  read- 
ing, 15.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  24.  Third  reading,  153. 
R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  42.) 

CURRENT  EXPENDITURES: 

Motion  proposed  and  negatived,  re  increase  of,  over  current  receipts,  etc., 

85-8. 


[DAIRYMEN'S  ASSOCIATIONS: 

Report  presented,  211.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  38.)    Printed. 
DAIRY  PRODUCTS  : — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 
DETECTIVES: — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 
DITCHES  AND  WATERCOURSES  ACT: 

1.  Bill  (No.  165),  introduced  to  amend,  89.    Second  reading  and  referred 

to  the  Municipal  Committee,  123.     Reported,  206.     House  goes  into 
Committee  on,  218.     Third  reading,  221.    R.A.,  274.     (10  Ed.  VIT 
c.  100.) 

2.  Petition  respecting,  53. 
DIVISION  COURTS: 

1.  Bill   (No.  68),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act,  59.     Order  for  second 

reading  discharged,  124. 

2.  Bill  (No.  96),  introduced  to  amend,  74.     Second  reading  and  referred 

to  Committee  of  the  Whole  on  Bill  (No.  116),  123.     See  below. 

3.  Bill  (No.  116),  introduced  respecting,  9.     Second  reading,  15.     House 

goes  into  Committee  on,  224,  232.     Third  reading,  232.     R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  32.) 

4.  Report  presented,  61.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  5.)     Printed. 
DOMESTIC  SERVANTS: 

Question  as  to  how  many  J.  H.  Rigby  sent  to  Province,  155. 


xii  INDEX 


1910 


DRAINAGE,  MUNICIPAL  : 

1.  Bill  (No.  179),  introduced,  to  revise  and  consolidate  the  law  relating 

to,    123.      Second   reading,    155.      House   goes   into   Committee   on, 
202,  209,  256.    Third  reading,  256.    E.A.,  274.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  90.) 

2.  Eeturn  ordered,  shewing  amount  of  Provincial  money  loaned  to  Muni- 

cipalities for  Drainage  Purposes,  names,  rate  of  interest  charged,  etc., 
133.     Presented,  212.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  71.)     Not  printed. 

DUNNVILLE,    WELLANDPORT   AND   BEAMSVILLE    ELECTRIC    RAILWAY    COMPANY  I 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  45.  Eeported,  78.  Bill  (No.  30),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  80.  Eeported,  125.  Second  reading,  134. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  146.  Third  reading,  154.  E.A., 
170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  140.) 

DURHAM,  TOWN  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  73.  Eeported,  130.  Bill  (No.  56),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  131.  Eeported,  181.  Second  reading,  200. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  219.  Third  reading,  222.  E.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  113.) 


DUCATION: 

1.  Bill  (No.  64),  introduced  to  amend  the  High  Schools  Act,  46.     Order 

for  second  reading  discharged,  128.  Eestored  to  Order  Paper,  read 

a  second  time  and  referred  to  the  Committee  of  the  Whole,   151. 

House  goes  into  Committee  on,  165.  Third  reading,  215.    E.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  104.) 

2.  Bill  (No.  85),  introduced  to  amend  the  Puhlic  Schools  Act,  70.    Order 

for  second  reading  discharged,  128. 

3.  Bill  (No.  87),  introduced  to  amend  the  High  Schools  Act,  70.     Order 

for  second  reading  discharged,  128. 

4.  Bill   (No.   226),  introduced  to  amend  the  Department  of  Education 

Act,  207.    Second  reading,  220.    House  goes  into  Committee  on,  241. 
Third  reading,  254.     E.A.,  274.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  102.) 

5.  Bill   (No.  219),  introduced  respecting  certain  Public  School  matters 

in  Toronto,  182.     Second  reading,  208.     House  goes  into  Committee 
on,  219,  232.   Third  reading,  257.  E.A.,  274.    (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  103.) 


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6.  Bill  (No.  203),  introduced  respecting  Industrial  Schools,  145.     Second 

reading,  201.     House  goes  into  Committee  on,  210.     Third  reading, 
229.    E.A.,  274.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  105.) 

7.  Bill   (No.   204),  introduced  to  amend  the  Public  Schools  Act,   145. 

Order  for  second  reading  discharged,  184. 

8.  Bill  (No.  205),  introduced  to  amend  the  Truancy  Act,  145.     Order  for 

second  reading  discharged,  184. 

9.  Report    of    Minister    presented,    101.       (Sessional    Papers  No.    16.) 

Printed. 

10.  Regulations  and  copies  of  Orders  in  Council  presented,  27.     Sessional 

Papers  No.  26.)     Not  printed. 

11.  Return  ordered  of  copy  of  advertisement  calling  for  tenders  for  print- 

ing and  publishing  Ontario  Readers,  etc.,  57.  Presented,  141. 
(Sessional  Papers  No.  65.)  Not  printed. 

12.  Return  ordered,  shewing  number  of  male  and  female  teachers  granted 

County  Model  School  Certificates  and  Normal  School  Certificates,  82. 
Presented,  194.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  67.)  Not  printed. 

13.  Return  ordered,  shewing  the  number  of  permits  and  extensions  granted 

to  Public  School  teachers ;  reasons  for  granting,  etc.,  82.  Presented, 
212.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  72.)  Not  printed. 

14.  Motion  proposed  and  negatived,  that  because  of  abolition  of  Model 

Schools,  etc.,  ten  per  cent,  of  the  Public  Schools  are  without  qualified 
teachers,  etc.,  86. 

15.  Motion  proposed   and  negatived,   re   printing  of   School   readers   by 

Departmental  Store,  etc.,  86. 

16.  Motion   proposed    and   negatived,    that    readers    are    inferior    to   old 

readers  and  that  Primer  be  withdrawn,  86. 

17.  Motion  proposed   and  negatived,   regretting  that  no  practical  steps 

have  been  taken  to  establish  a  system  of  Technical  Schools,  86. 

18.  Motion  proposed  and  superseded  by  amendment,  that  the  Province 

and  the  Municipalities  should  unite  in  the  establishment  of  Technical 
Schools  in  the  Towns  and  Cities  in  Ontario  to  supplement  the  prac- 
tical training  of  the  workshop,  etc.,  246-8. 


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1910 


19.  Question  re  "  Lesson  Helps/'  208. 

20.  Question  re  amount  of  moneys  given  to  Colleges  or  Universities  by 
Province,  217. 

21.  Petition  respecting,  69.  See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 

ELECTIONS  : 

1.  New  Writs  issued  for  East  Victoria  and  North  Middlesex,  2. 

2.  Certificates  of  Election  of  Members,  3. 

3.  Returns   from  Record  presented,   11.      (Sessional   Papers  No.    50.) 

Printed. 

ELECTRICAL  POWER: — See  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission  Act. 

EMIGRANTS  : 

1.  Return  ordered,  shewing  how  many  the  Salvation  Army  brought  out 

from  Great  Britain  and  Ireland,  where  placed,  etc.,  132.     Presented, 
260.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  78.)     Not  printed. 

2.  Question  as  to  deportation,  137. 

3.  Question  as  to  domestic  servants  sent  by  J.  W.  Rigby,  155. 

4.  Question  as  to  how  many  came  to  Ontario  owing  to  Provincial  Grants. 

216. 

ENGLAND,  THE  LAW  OF: 

Bill  (No.  122),  introduced  respecting,  in  certain  matters,  9.  Second  read- 
ing, 16.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  25.  Third  reading,  title 
amended,  154.  R.  A.,  170.  (10  Edw.  VII.  c.  45.) 

ENTOMOLOGICAL  SOCIETY: 

Report  presented,  211.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  36.)      Printed. 
ESTATE  BILLS: 

Referred  to  Commissioners  of,  51,  121,  164.     Reported,  58,  83,  135,  178. 


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ESTATES,  DEVOLUTION  OF: 

Bill  (No.  212),  introduced  respecting,  171.  Second  reading,  183.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  210,  224.  Third  reading,  254.  E.A.,  274, 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  56.) 

ESTATES,  TAIL: 

Bill  (No.  138),  introduced  respecting  the  assurance  of,  22.  Second 
reading,  34.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  43.  Third  reading, 
164.  K.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  52.) 

ESTIMATES  : 

Presented,  32,  44,  139,  173.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  2.)  Printed.  See 
Supply. 

ESTREATS : 

Bill  (No.  132),  introduced  respecting,  10.  Second  reading,  16.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  25.  Third  reading,  164.  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed. 
VII.  c.  43.) 

EXCHEQUER  COURT: — See  Supreme  Court. 

EXECUTIVE  COUNCIL: 

i 

Bill  (No.  206),  introduced  respecting,  152.  Second  reading,  201.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  220,  222.  Third  reading,  229.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  4.) 


pACTORIES: 

Report  presented,  212.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  ^d.)     Printed. 
FAIR  WAGES  AND  HOURS  OF  LABOUR  REGULATION  ACT  : 

Bill  (No.  61),  introduced,  41.  Motion  for  second  reading;  amendment 
proposed  re  six  months'  hoist  and  amendment  to  amendment  proposed 
and  negatived  re  appointment  of  Commission  to  enquire  into  question, 
261.  Amendment  put  and  carried,  262-3.  Main  motion  as  amended 
put  and  carried  and  Bill  ordered  to  be  read  six  months  hence,  263-4. 


xvi  INDEX  1910 

FALLS  OF  NIAGARA  : — See  Niagara  Falls. 
FARMERS'  INSTITUTES  : 

Report  presented,  54.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  40.)     Printed. 
FEEBLE-MINDED  : 

Report  presented,  205.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  23.}     Printed. 
FIAT: 

1.  Return  presented  to  an  Order  of  the  House,  of  the  Session  of  1909, 

shewing  how  often  the  Government  had  been  asked  for  permission  to 
institute  an  action,  where  necessary,  243.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  77.) 
~Not  printed. 

2.  Motion  proposed  and  negatived  re  denial  of,  86. 
FINANCIAL  STATEMENT: 

Delivered  and  Debate  on  adjourned,  52,  61,  71,  76,  83.  Amendment 
proposed  and  negatived  and  motion  carried,  85-8.  See  Supply. 

FIRE  IN  HOTELS: 

Bill  (No.  221),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act  for  the  prevention  of  acci- 
dents by  Fire,  182.  Second  reading  and  referred  to  the  Legal  Com- 
mittee, 208.  No  report. 

FISH  AND  GAME  : 

1.  Bill  (ISTo.  65),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act,  52.     Second  reading  and 

referred  to  the  Committee  on  Fish  and  Game,  91.     No  report. 

2.  Bill   (No.  82),  introduced  to  amend,  67.     Order  for  second  reading 

discharged,  166. 

3.  Bill    (No.    213),   introduced   to   amend,    171.      Second   reading,    201. 

House  goes  into  Committee  on,  220.  Third  reading,  254.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  101.) 

4.  Committee  appointed,  41.     No  report. 

5.  Report  presented,  94.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  13.)     Printed. 


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6.  Return  ordered,  shewing  when  registration  of  T.  A.  Hand  was  accepted, 
etc.,  133.  Presented,  243.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  76.)  Not  printed. 
See  Fishermen. 

FISHERMEN  : 

Eeturn  ordered,  shewing  number  of  licenses  granted  to  in  Lakes  Superior, 
Huron,  etc.,  31.  Presented,  57.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  62.)  Not 
printed. 

FOREST  RESERVES: 

Bill  (No.  102),  introduced  to  establish,  23.  Second  reading,  34.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  42.  Third  reading,  153.  R.A.,  170. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  8.) 

FORT  ERIE  FERRY  AND  RAILWAY  CO/Y: — See  Buffalo  and  Fort  Erie. 
FORT  FRANCES  ANI>  RAINY  RIVER  DISTRICT  : 

Question  as  to  survey,  or  enquiry  as  to  practicability  of  a  general  drainage 
scheme,  81. 

FORT  WILLIAM,  CITY  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  45.  Reported,  64.  Bill  (No.  34),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  74.  Reported,  213.  Second  reading,  228. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  234.  Third  reading,  255.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  114.) 

it 

FRUIT  BRANCH: 

Report  presented,  211.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  S3.)  Printed. 
FRUIT  GROWERS'  ASSOCIATION: 

Report  presented,  211.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  S2.)  Printed. 
GAME  : 

1.  Bill  (No.  65),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act,  52.     Second  reading  and 

referred  to  the  Committee  on  Fish  and  Game,  91.    No  report. 

2.  Bill  (No.  82),  introduced  to  amend,  67.     Order  for  second  reading 

discharged,  166. 

B 


xviii  INDEX  1910 

3.  Bill  (No.  213),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act,  171.     Second  reading, 

'201.     House  goes  into  Committee  on,   220.     Third  reading,   254. 
R.A.,  274. .   (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  101.) 

4.  Committee  appointed,  41.    No  report. 

5.  Report  presented,  94.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  18.)     Printed. 

6.  Return  ordered,  re  resignation  of  Game  Warden  Hand,  133.    Presented, 

243.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  76.)    Not  printed.    See  Fish  and  Game. 
Fishermen. 


Q  AOLS  AND  PRISONS : 

» 
Report  presented,  228.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  25.)     Printed. 

GENERAL  SESSIONS  ACT: — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 

GILLIES  LIMIT: 

Return  ordered,  showing  area  of,  how  much  mineralized,  etc.,  97. 
iPresented.  (Sessional  'Papers  No.  ^.5.)  Not  printed. 

GOODS,  CONTRACTS  IN  RELATION  TO: 

Bill  (No.  147),  introduced  respecting,  in  the  possession  of  Agents,  23. 
Second  reading,  34.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  43,  222. 
Third  reading,  223.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  66.) 

GOODS,  STOCKS  OF  IN  BULK: 

Bill  (No.  69),  introduced  to  regulate  the  purchase,  sale  and  transfer  of, 
59.  Order  for  second  reading  discharged,  128. 

GOOD  ROADS: — See  Highway  Improvement. 
GOVERNMENT  HOUSE: 

Bill   (No.   233),  introduced  respecting  the  property   of,   221.      Second 
reading,.    241.      House    goes    into    Committee    on;    third    reading, 
246.    R.A.,  274.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  7.) 

GOVERNMENT  ORDERS  : 

To  he  on  Monday's  Order  Paper,  94. 


1910  INDEX  xix 

GUARANTEE  COMPANIES  SECURITIES  ACT  : — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 
GUELPH,  CITY  OF  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  102.  Reported,  118.  Bill  (No.  95),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  137.  Reported,  195.  Second  reading,  208. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  219.  Third  reading,  222.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  115.) 


|_J  AMILTON,  CITY  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  53.  Reported,  117.  Bill  (No.  38),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  122.  Reported,  213.  Second  reading,  228. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  240.  Third  reading,  255.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  116.) 

HAMILTON  SCHOOL  OF  ANATOMY: 

Petition  for  Act  of  incorporation,  37.  Reported,  118.  Bill  (No.  28), 
introduced  and  referred,  122.  Reported,  195.  Second  reading, 
208.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  219.  Third  reading,  222. 
R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  161.) 

HAND,  T.  A.: 

Return  ordered,  shewing  when  resignation  was  accepted,  if  voluntary,  etc., 
133.  Presented,  243.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  76.)  Not  printed. 

' 

HEALTH,  PUBLIC: 

Report  presented,  101.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  20.)  Printed. 
HIGHWAY  IMPROVEMENT  : 

Report  presented,  74.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  14-)  Printed. 
HORTICULTURAL  SOCIETIES  : 

1.  Bill  (No.  106),  introduced  respecting,  37.     Second  reading,  44.    House 

goes  into  Committee  on,  47.     Third  reading,  165.     R.A.,  170.     (10 
Ed.  VII.  c.  20.) 

2.  Report  presented,  211.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  44-)     Printed.     See 

Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 


XX  INDEX  1910 

HOSPITALS  AND  CHARITIES: 

Report  presented,  194.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  ££.)    Printed. 
HOUSE,  THE: 

1.  Proclamation  calling  for  despatch,  1. 

2.  Adjourns  to  an  unusual  hour,  83,  88,  124,  243,  260,  265. 

3.  Government  Orders  to  be  on  Monday's  Paper,  94. 

4.  Rule  50  repealed  and  new  rule  substituted,  202-5. 
HURONTARIO  RAILWAY  COMPANY  : 

Petition  for  Act  of  incorporation,  95.  Reported,  119.  Bill  (]STo.  163), 
introduced  and  referred,  122.  Reported,  160.  Second  reading,  172. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  185.  Third  reading,  221.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  141.) 

HYDRO-ELECTRIC  POWER  COMMISSION: 

1.  Bill    (No.   225),   introduced  respecting,   207.      Second   reading,   220. 

House  goes  into  Committee  on,   249.      Third  reading,   amendment 
negatived,  249-50.     R.A.,  274.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  16.) 

2.  Bill   (No.   164),  introduced    to    amend    the    Act,    89.     Motion  for 

second  reading  negatived,  251-2. 

3.  Return  ordered,  of  awards  by  Arbitrators  to  settle  disputes  re  ease- 

ments,  116.     Presented,   212.      (Sessional  Papers  No.   69.)      Not 
printed. 

4.  Question  as  to  amount  expended    to    end    of    October,  1.909,  for  all 

purposes,  etc.,  81. 

5.  Motion  proposed  and  negatived,  regretting  that  Commission  in  securing 

easements,  did  not  pursue  a  systematic  plan,  etc.,  86.     See  Statute 
Law  Amendment  Act. 

DIOTS  AND  EPILEPTICS: 

Report  presented,  194.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  22.)  Printed.  See  Con- 
firmed Criminals. 


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IMMIGRATION  : 

'  1.  Return  ordered,  shewing  how  many  emigrants  the  Salvation  Army 
brought  out  in  1909,  etc.,  132.  Presented,  260.  (Sessional  Papers 
No.  78.}  Not  printed. 

2.  Question  as  to  deportation,  137. 

3.  Question   as  to  how  many   domestic  servants   J.   W.   Rigby  sent  to 

Province,  155. 

4.  Question  as  to  how  many  emigrants  came  to  Province  owing  to  Provin- 

cial grants,  216. 

INDUSTRIAL  DISPUTES: 

Bill  (No.  156),  introduced  respecting  Councils  of  Conciliation  and  Arbitra- 
tion for  settling,  41.  Second  reading,  47.  House  goes  into  Com- 
mittee on,  68.  Third  reading,  165.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  74.) 

INDUSTRIAL  SCHOOLS  : 

Bill  (No.  203),  introduced  respecting,  145.  Second  reading,  201. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  210.  Third  reading,  229.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  105.) 

INDUSTRIES  : 

Report  presented,  211.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  -45.)     Printed. 

INFANT  MORTALITY: 

Report  presented,  194.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  66.)     Printed. 

INNKEEPERS  : — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 

INSANE,  HOSPITALS  FOR: 

Report  presented,  194.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  21.)     Printed. 

INSOLVENT  PERSONS: 

Bill  (No.  141),  introduced  respecting  Assignments  and  Preferences  by,  30. 
Second  reading,  43.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  47.  Third 
reading,  164.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  64.) 


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INDEX  1910 


INSURANCE : 


1.  Keturn  presented,  to  an  Order  of  the  House  of  the  Session  of  1909,  re 

insurance  in  foreign  unregistered  corporations,  27.    (Sessional  Papers 
No.  58).     Not  printed. 

2.  Keport  presented,   94.      (Sessional  Papers  No.   10.)      Printed.      See 

Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 


IKON  RANGE  RAILWAY: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  77.  Reported,  118.  Bill  (No.  49),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  121.  Reported,  160.  Second  reading,  172. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  185.  Third  reading,  197.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  142.) 


JUDGES:— See  Judicature,  Court  of. 
JUDICATURE  ACT  : 

1.  Bill    (No.    160),    introduced    to    amend,    74.     Second  reading,  115. 

House  goes  into  Committee  on,  135.     Third  reading,  154.    R.A.,  170. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  27.) 

2.  Bill   (No.   196),   introduced  to  amend,   137.      Second  reading,   155. 

House  goes  into  Committee  on,  224.    Third  reading,  254.    R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  28.)    'See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 

JUDICATURE,  SUPREME  COURT  or: 

Bill  (No.  Ill),  introduced  respecting  the  Judges  of,  8.  Second  reading, 
15.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  35.  Third  reading,  153.  R.A., 
170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  29.) 

JUSTICES  OF  THE  PEACE  : 

1.  Bill  (No.  107),  introduced  respecting  procedure  before  and  Summary 

Convictions,  8.     Second  reading,  14.     House  goes  into  Committee  on, 
134,  199.     Third  reading,  221.     R.A.,  274.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  37.) 

2.  Bill  (No.  118),  introduced  respecting,  9.     Second  reading,  15.     House 

goes  into  Committee  on,  26.     Third  reading  254.     R.A.,  274.      (10 
Ed.  VII.  c.  35.) 


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JUVENILE  COTJBTS: 

1.  Bill    (No.   229),  introduced  respecting,   215.      Second  reading,   227. 

House  goes  into  Committee  on,  224.     Third  reading,  254.     K.A., 
274.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  96.) 

"j 

2.  Petition  respecting  legislation  under  7  &  8  Ed.  VII. ,  .Dora.,  95. 

JUVENILE  DELINQUENTS: — See  Juvenile  Courts. 


J^ENOEA,  TOW1ST  OF: 

1.  Petition  for  Act  respecting,  49.     Eeported,  63.     Bill  (No.  43),  intro- 

duced and  referred,  70.  Reported,  181.  Second  reading,  201. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  209.  Third  reading,  221.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  117.) 

2.  Petition  for  Act  to  amend  Act  of  incorporation,  95.     Not  proceeded 

with. 


ABOUK,  BUREAU  OF: 

1.  Bill  (No.  112),  introduced  respecting,  23.   Second  reading,  34.   House 

goes  into  Committee  on,  42.     Third  reading,  153.     E.A.,  170.     (10 
Ed.  VII.  c.  13.) 

2.  Eeport  Presented,  228.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  15.)     Printed,     Sec 

Fair  Wages. 


LAC  SEUL,  EAT  PORTAGE  AND  KEEWATIN  EAILWAY  COMPANY  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  84.  Eeported,  117.  Bill  (No.  50),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  121.  Eeported,  160.  Second  reading,  172. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  185.  Third  reading,  196.  E.A.. 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  143.) 


LAND  LOCATION  ACT  : 

Petition  respecting,   30.  , 


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INDEX  1910 


LAND  TITLES  ACT: 

1.  Bill  (No.  227),  introduced  to  amend,  207.  Second  reading,  220.  Reso- 
lution introduced;  Lieutenant-Governor's  recommendation  signified; 
passed  through  Committee  and  referred  to  Bill,  230-2.  House  goes 
into  Committee  on,  233.  Third  reading,  254.  E.A.,  274.  (10  Ed. 
VII.  c.  61.) 

i         2.  Copies  of  Order  in  Council  presented,  under,  48.      (Sessional  Papers 
No.  59.)     Not  printed. 

LANDS,  FORESTS  AND  MINES: 

Keport  presented,  228.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  8.)     Printed. 
LANDLORD  AND  TENANTS  ACT  : 

Bill  (No.  168),  introduced  to  amend,  90.  Second  reading,  115.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  159.  Third  reading,  221.  R.A.,  274.  (10 
Ed.  VII.  c.  75.) 

LAW  SOCIETY: 

Bill  (No.  208),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  the,  152.  Second 
reading  and  referred  to  the  Legal  Committee,  201.  Reported,  229. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on;  third  reading,  245.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  76.) 

LEASES,  SHORT  FORMS  OF  : 

Bill  (No.  108),  introduced  respecting,  10.  Second  reading,  16.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  25,  182.  Third  reading,  207:.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  54.) 

LEGAL  COMMITTEE: 

Appointed,  41.     Report,  228. 

•  • 

LEGAL  OFFICES: 

Report  presented,  194.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  6.)     Printed. 
LEGISLATION  : 

Return  ordered,  of  copies  of  correspondence  suggesting,  or  respecting,  to 
be  introduced  in  1907-8-9,  90.  (Not  brought  down.) 


1910  INDEX  XXV 

LESLIE,  BLANCHE  ELEANOR: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting  the  Estate  of  the  late,  28.  Keported,  50.  Bill 
(No.  17),  introduced  and  referred  to  the  Commissioners  of  Estate 
Bills,  51.  Reported  and  referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills, 
58.  Reported,  76.  Second  reading,  81.  House  goes  into  Commit- 
tee on,  92.  Third  reading,  96.  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  167.) 

LIBRARY : 

1.  Committee  appointed,  31.     No  report. 

2.  Report  presented,  on  state  of,  17.    (Sessional  Papers  No.  52.)   Printed. 

3.  Resolution  thanking  University  for  use  of  building,  and  donors  of  books, 
-31. 

LIENS: — See  Mechanics. 

LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR  : 

1.  Bill  (No.  108),  introduced  respecting  the,  and  his  Deputies,  8.     Second 

reading,  14.     House  goes  into  Committee  on,  23.    Third  reading,  153. 
R.A.,  274.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  3.) 

2.  His  Speech  at  the  opening,  4. 

3.  To  be  taken  into  consideration,  7. 

4.  Motion  for  Address  in  reply  put  and  carried,  13-14. 

5.  Transmits  Estimates,  32,  44,  139,  173. 

6.  Recommends  Resolutions  involving  the  expenditure  of  public  moneys, 

143,  230,  252. 

7.  Assents  to  Acts,  170,  274. 

8.  Speech  at  close  of  Session,  274. 

LIMITED  PARTNERSHIPS  : 

Bill  (No.  143),  introduced  respecting,  11.     Second  reading,  17.     House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  36.     Third  reading,  215.   R.A.,  274.    (10 
Ed.  VII.  c.  67.) 


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INDEX  1910 


LINE  FENCES  ACT: — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 

LIQUOR  LICENSE  LAW: 

1.  Bill  (No.  89),  introduced  to  amend,  70.     Motion  for  second  reading 

and  amendment  proposed  and  carried  for  six  months  hoist,  242. 

2.  Bill  (No.  230),    introduced    to    amend,    215.     Second  reading,  241. 

Resolution  introduced;  Lieutenant-Governor's  recommendation  sig- 
nified ;  passed  through  Committee  and  referred  to  Bill,  252-3.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on;  third  reading,  253.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed. 
VII.  c.  94.) 

3.  Report  presented,  211.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  27.)     Printed. 

4.  Question  as  to  number  of  infractions  of,  in  Cobalt,  199. 

LIVE  STOCK  ASSOCIATIONS  : 

Report  presented,  54.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  39.)     Printed. 

LOAN  CORPORATIONS: 

Report  presented,  94.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  11.)  Printed.  See 
Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 

LOCAL  MUNICIPAL  TELEPHONE  ACT.  : 

Bill  (No.  207),  introduced  to  amend,  152.  Second  reading  and  referred 
to  the  Municipal  Committee,  184.  Reported,  214.  House  goes  into 
Committee  on;  third  reading,  244-5.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII. 
c.  92.) 

LONDON,  CITY  OF  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  45.  Reported,  64.  Bill  (No.  31),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  66.  Reported,  79.  Second  reading,  90.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  96.  Third  reading,  154.  R.A.,  274.  (10 
Ed.  VII.  c.  118.)  See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 


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fyJARRIED    WOMAN'S    KEAL     ESTATE    ACT:— See    Statute    Law 
Amendment  Act. 

MASTER  AND  SERVANT: 

Bill  (No.  155),  introduced  respecting,  41.  Second  reading,  47.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  68,  165.  Third  reading,  183.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  73.) 

MECHANICS'  LIENS  : 

Bill  (No.  146),  introduced  respecting,  23.  Second  reading,  35.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  68,  126.  Third  reading,  254.  K.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  69.) 

MEDICAL  AMENDMENT  ACT: — See  Ontario  Medical  Amendment  Act. 

MEMBERS  : 

1.  Notifications  of  vacancies  and  issue  of  new  Writs,  for  East  Victoria 

and  North  Middlesex,  2. 

2.  Certificates  of  elections  of  Members,  3. 

3.  Take  Oaths  and  Seats,  4. 

4.  Added  to  Committees,  46,  71. 

5.  Full  Indemnity  paid  to,  264. 

MERCANTILE  LAW: 

Bill  (No.  133),  introduced  to  amend,  11.  Second  reading,  16.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  35,  255.  Third  reading,  255.  K.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  63.) 

MILK  COMMISSION: 

Report  presented,  101.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  55.)     Printed. 

MINES  : 

Report  presented,  211.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  4-)  Printed.  See 
Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 


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INDEX  1910 


MISSISSIPPI  RIVER: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting  the  levying  and  collecting  of  Tolls  on  the,  73. 
Beported,  118.  Bill  (No.  55),  introduced  and  referred,^  120. 
Reported,  152.  Second  reading,  166.  House  goes  into  Committee 
on,  185.  Third  reading,  207.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  157.) 

MONARCH  FIRE  INSURANCE  COMPANY  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  49.  Reported,  118.  Bill  (JNo.  36),.  intro- 
duced and  referred,  122.  Reported,  213.  Second  reading,  227. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  240.  Third  reading,  255.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  158.) 

MONARCH  RAILWAY  COMPANY: 

Petition  for  Act  of  incorporation,  28.  Reported,  77.  Bill  (No.  16), 
introduced  and  referred,  85.  Reported,  180.  Second  reading,  200. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  218.  Third  reading,  221.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  144.) 

MORRISBURG  RAILWAY  COMPANY: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  62.  Reported,  117.  Bill  (ISlo.  51),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  121.  Reported;  160.  Second  reading,  172. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  185.  Third  reading,  196.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed,  VII.  c.  145.) 

MORTGAGES  OF  REAL  ESTATE  : 

Bill  (No.  134),  introduced  respecting,  11.  Second  reading,  17.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  26,  183.  Third  reading,  207.  R.A.,  274. 
HO  Ed.  VII.  c.  51.) 

MORTGAGES,  SHORT  EORMS  OF  : 

Bill  (No.  129),  introduced  respecting,  10.  Second  reading,  16.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  26,  183.  Third  reading,  207.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VTI.  c.  55.) 

MORTMAIN  : 

Bill  (!N"o.  181),  introduced  respecting,  and  the  disposition  of  lands  for 
charitable  uses,  126.  Order  for  second  reading  discharged,  241. 


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MOTOR  VEHICLES  ACT: 

1.  Bill    (No.    202),   introduced   to   amend,    145.      Second   reading   and 

referred  to  Municipal  Committee,  201.    No  report. 

2.  Question  as  to  number  of  convictions  under,  234. 

MUNICIPAL  BY-LAWS  AND  AGREEMENTS: 

Bill  (No.  224),  introduced  respecting,  206.     Second  reading,  220.    House 
goes  into  Committee  on;  third  reading,  249.     E.A.,  274.     (10  Ed. 
,       VII.  c.  87.) 

MUNICIPAL  DRAINAGE  LAWS  : 

Bill  (No.  179),  introduced  to  revise  and  consolidate,  123.  Second  read- 
ing, 155.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  202,  209,  256.  Third 
reading,  256.  K.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  90.) 

MUNICIPAL  LAW: 

1.  Bill  (No.  60),  introduced  to  amend,  31.     Second  reading  and  referred 

to  the  Municipal  Committee,  91.     Keported,  214.     Mr.  N icicle. 

2.  Bill  (No.  63),  introduced  to  amend,  42.     Second  reading  and  referred 

to  the  Municipal  Committee,  91.     Reported,  214.     Mr.  Brower. 

3.  Bill   (No.   66),  introduced  and  referred,   59.     Second    reading    and 

referred   to   the   Municipal    Committee,    91.     Reported,    214.     Mr. 
Macdiarmid. 

4.  Bill  (No.  70),  introduced  to  amend,  60.     Second  reading  and  referred 

to  the  Municipal  Committee,  91.     Reported,  214.     Mr.  Fripp. 

5.  Bill  (No.  71),  introduced  to  amend,  60.     Order  for  second  reading  dis- 

charged, 115.     Mr.  Fripp. 

6.  Bill  (No.  72),  introduced  to  amend,  60.     Second  reading  and  referred 

to  the  Municipal  Committee,  115.     Reported,  214.     Mr.  Fripp. 

7.  Bill  (No.  73),  introduced  to  amend,  60.     Order  for  second  reading  dis- 

charged, 115.     Mr.  Fripp. 

8.  Bill  (No.  74),  introduced  to  amend,  60.     Second  reading  and  referred 

to  the  Municipal  Committee,  91.     Reported,  214.     Mr.  Fripp. 


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INDEX  1910 


9.  Bill  (No.  75),  introduced  to  amend,  60.     Second  reading  and  referred 

to  the  Municipal  Committee,  97.     Reported,  214.     Mr.  Bradburn. 

10.  Bill  (No.  76),  introduced  to  amend,  60.     Order  for  second  reading 

discharged,  128.     Mr.  Bradburn. 

11.  Bill  (No.  77),  introduced  to  amend,  60.     Second  reading  and  referred 

to  the  Municipal  Committee,  91.     Reported,  214.     Mr.  Macdiarmid. 

12.  Bill  (No.  78),  introduced  to  amend,  60.     Order  for  second  reading 

discharged,  92.     Mr.  Macdiarmid. 

13.  Bill  (No.  79),  introduced  to  amend,  66.     Second  reading  and  referred 

to  the  Municipal  Committee,  91.     Reported,  214.     Mr.   Thompson 
(Simcoe.) 

14.  Bill  (No.  81),  introduced  to  amend,  67.     Second  reading  and  referred 

to  the  Municipal  Committee,  97.     Reported,  214.     Mr.  Hoyle. 

15.  Bill  (No.  83),  introduced  to  amend,  67.     Second  reading  and  referred 
to  the  Municipal  Committee,  91.     Reported,  214.     Mr.  Nickle. 

16.  Bill  (No.  92),  introduced  to  amend,  71.     Second  reading  and  referred 

to  the  Municipal  Committee,  91.     Reported,  214.     Mr.  Proudfoot. 

17.  Bill  (No.  94),  introduced  to  amend,  72.     Second  reading  and  referred 
to  the  Municipal  Committee,  97.     Reported,  214.     Mr.  McElroy. 

18.  Bill  (No.  97),  introduced  to  amend,  74.     Second  reading  and  referred 

to  the  Municipal  Committee,  97.     Reported,  214.     Mr.  Hearst. 

19.  Bill    (No.   172),   introduced  to   amend,   95.     Second   reading   and 
referred  to  the  Municipal   Committee,   127.     Reported,   214.     Mr. 
Lennox. 

20.  Bill   (No.   175),  introduced  to  amend,   102.     'Second    reading    and 

referred  to  the  Municipal   Committee,   139.     Reported,   214.     Mr. 
Fripp. 

21.  Bill   (No.   185),  introduced  to  amend,   132.     Second    reading    and 

referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee,   142.     Reported,   214.     Mr. 
Pearce. 

22.  Bill    (No.   190),  introduced  to   amend,   132.     Second    reading    and 

referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee,   142.     Reported,   214.     Mr. 
McPherson. 


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23.  Bill  (No.  192),  introduced  and  referred,  137.     Second  reading  and 

referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee,   142.     Reported,   214.     Mr. 
Brewster. 

24.  Bill  (ISTo.  193),  introduced  to  amend,  137.     Order  for  second  reading 

discharged,  184.     Mr.  Jessop. 

25.  Bill   (No.   195),  introduced  to  amend,   137.     Second    reading    and 

referred  to  the  Municipal   Committee,   137.     Reported,   214.     Mr. 
McPherson. 

26.  Bill    (No.    199),   introduced   to   amend,   142.     Second   reading   and 

referred  to  the  Municipal   Committee,   166.     Reported,   214.     Mr. 
Fraser. 

27.  Bill    (No.   215),   introduced   to   amend,   172.     Second  reading  and 

referred  to  the  Legal  Committee,  208.     No  report.     Mr.  Grigg. 

28.  Bill   (No.   223),  introduced  to  amend,   206.     Second  reading,  227. 

Order  for  House  to  go  into  Committee  on  discharged,  242.     Mr.  Duff. 

29.  Bill  (No.  217),  introduced,  "  The  Municipal  Amendment  Act,  1910," 

171.    Second  reading,  201.    House  goes  into  Committee  on,  225,  233. 
Third  reading,  254.     R.A.,  274.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  85.)  Mr.  Hanna. 

30.  Committee  appointed,  40.     Report,  181,  206,  214. 

31.  Petitions  respecting,  102. 


MUNICIPAL  LIGHT  AND  HEAT  ACT  : 

Bill  (No.  188),  introduced  to  amend,  132.  Second  reading  and  referred 
to  the  Municipal  Committee,  142.  Reported,  206.  House  goes  into 
Committee  on,  218,  Third  reading,  221.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII. 
c.  91.) 


MUNICIPAL  SECURITIES  ACT: 

Bill  (No.  197),  introduced  to  amend,  142.  Second  reading  and  referred 
to  the  Municipal  Committee,  166.  Reported,  214.  House  goes  into 
Committee  on,  225.  Third  reading,  230.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed. 
VII.  c.  86.) 


xxxii  INDEX  1910 


MUNICIPAL  WATER  WORKS  ACT  : 

Bill  (No.  84),  introduced  to  amend,  70.  Second  reading  ano!  referred 
to  the  Municipal  Committee,  91.  Reported,  206.  House  goes  into 
Committee  on,  225.  Third  reading,  229.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII. 
c.  93.) 


APANEE,  TOWN  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  818,  28.  Reported,  50.  Bill  (No. 
3),  introduced  and  referred,  51.  Reported,  76.  Second  reading,  80. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  172.  Third  reading,  183.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  119.) 

NATURAL  GAS  : — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 
NIAGARA  FALLS  : 

Bill  (No.  125),  introduced  for  the  better  government  of  that  part  of 
Ontario  situate  in  the  vicinity  of  the  Fall®  of  Niagara,  10.  Second 
reading,  16.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  35.  Third  reading, 

153.  R.A.,  170.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  44.) 

NIAGARA  FALLS,  WELLAND  AND  DUNNVILLE  ELECTRIC  RAILWAY: 

:  ~  '  !1 

Petition  for  Act  of  incorporation,  116.  Reported,  130.  Bill  (No.  169), 
introduced  and  referred,  137.  Reported,  181.  Second  reading,  200. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  218.  Third  reading,  221.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  146.) 

NIAGARA,  TOWN  OF  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting  the,  and  Henry  Winnett,  29.  Reported,  78. 
Bill  (No.  24),  introduced  and  referred,  80.  Reported,  120.  Second 
reading,  127.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  138.  Third  reading, 

154.  R.A.,  170.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  120.) 

NICKLE  RANGE  RAILWAY  COMPANY: 

Petition  for  Act  of  incorporation,  29.  Reported,  50.  Bill  (No.  4),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  51.  Reported,  84.  Second  reading,  90.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  115.  Third  reading,  127.  R.A.,  170.  (10 
Ed.  VII.  c.  147.) 


1910  INDEX 


XXXI 11 


NORTH  MIDLAND  RAILWAY  COMPANY  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  49.  Reported,  78.  Bill  (No.  35),  introduced 
and  referred,  80.  Reported,  125.  Second  reading,  134.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on;  third  reading,  154.  R.  A.,  170.  (10  Ed. 
VII.  c.  148.) 

NORTHCOTE,  CHARLES  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting  the  Estate  of,  30.  Reported,  78.  Bill  (No. 
23),  introduced  and  referred  to  the  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills,  80. 
Reported  and  referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills,  83-4. 
Reported,  120.  Second  reading,  127.  House  goes  into  Committee 
on,  134.  Third  reading,  154.  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  168.) 


QNTARIO  ANATOMY  ACT:— See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 

ONTARIO  COMPANIES  ACT  : 

Bill  (No.  231),  introduced  to  amend,  215.  Second  reading,  227.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  234.  Third  reading,  254.  R.A.,  274.  (10 
Ed.  VII.  c.  80.) 

ONTARIO,  HUDSON  BAY  AND  WESTERN  RAILWAY: — See  Statute  Law  Amend- 
ment Act. 

ONTARIO  MEDICAL  AMENDMENT  ACT  : 

1.  Bill  (No.  186),  introduced,  132.    Second  reading  and  referred  to  a  Select 

Committee,   142.     Reported,   181.     House  goes  into  Committee  on, 
218.     Third  reading,  221.     R.A.,  274.      (10.  Ed.  VII.  c.  77.)  ' 

2.  Bill  (No.  216),  introduced  to  amend,  171.     Order  for  second  reading 

discharged,  242. 

ONTARIO  MUNICIPAL  SECURITIES  ACT: 

Bill  (No.  197),  introduced  to  amend,  142.  Second  reading  and  referred 
to  the  Municipal  Committee,  166.  Reported,  214.  House  goes  into 
Committee  on,  225.  Third  reading,  230.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII. 
c.  86.) 

ONTARIO,  PROVINCE  OF  : 

Situation  and  size,  climate,  etc.,  presented,  55.      (Sessional  Papers  No. 

60.}     Printed  for  distribution  only, 
c 


xxxiv  INDEX  1910 


ONTARIO  RAILWAY  ACT  : 

1.  Bill  (No.  210),  introduced  to  amend,  164.    Second  reading,  201.    House 

goes  into  Committee  on;  third  reading,  246.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed. 
VII.  c.  81.) 

2.  Bill  (No.  201),  introduced  to  amend,  145.     Order  for  second  reading 

discharged,  184. 

3.  Bill  (No.  214),  introduced  to  amend,  171.     Order  for  second  reading 

discharged,  241. 

ONTARIO  RAILWAY  AND  MUNICIPAL  BOARD  : 

1.  Bill   (No.  67),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act,  59.     Order  for  second 

reading  discharged,  92. 

2.  Bill  (No.  189),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act,  132.     Second  reading 

and  referred  to  the  Railway  Committee,  142.  Referred  to  the  Legal 
Committee,  196.  Reported,  229.  House  goes  into  Committee  on; 
third  reading,  245.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  82.) 

3.  Bill  (No.  211),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act,  164.     Second  reading, 

201.     House  goes  into   Committee  on ;   third  reading,   246.     R  A 
274.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  83.) 

4.  Bill  referred  to  Board,  65.    Reported,  129. 

5.  Report  presented,  44.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  49.)     Printed. 

6.  Question  as  to  cost  of,  since  inception,  197. 
ONTARIO  SCHOOL  READERS  : — See  Education. 
ONTARIO  TELEPHONE  ACT: 

Bill  (ISTo.  88),  introduced,  70.  Second  reading  and  referred  to  Select 
Committee,  124.  Committee  named,  129.  Reported,  206.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on;  third  reading,  244.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed. 
VII.  c.  '84.)  See  Local  Municipal  Telephone. 

ONTARIO,  TERRITORIAL  DIVISION  OF  : 

Bill  (No.  103),  introduced  respecting  the,  for  Municipal  and  Judicial  pur- 
poses, 8.  Second  reading,  14.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  25. 
Third  reading,  164.  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  2.) 


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ONTARIO  VEGETABLE  GROWERS: 

Report  presented,  211.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  34-)     Printed. 
ONTARIO  VETERINARY  COLLEGE  : 

Eeport  presented,  211.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  30.)     Printed. 
OSHAWA  Y.  M.  C.  A : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  29.  Reported,  50.  Bill  (No.  8),  introduced 
and  referred,  51.  Reported:  fees  remitted,  75.  Second  reading.  80. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  92.  Third  reading,  102.  R.A.,  170. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  162.) 

OSTEOPATHIC  COLLEGE : 

Petition  for  Act  of  incorporation,  77.  Reported  adversely,  119.  Fees 
remitted,  214. 

OTTAWA,  CITY  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  G9.  Reported,  117.  Bill  (No.  53),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  122.  Reported,  213.-  Second  reading,  227. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  240.  Third  reading,  255.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  121.) 

OTTAWA  Y.  M.  C.  A. : 

Petition  for  Act  to  amend  Act  incorporating,  29.  Reported  63.  Bill  (No. 
14),  introduced  and  referred,  65.  Reported;  fees  remitted,  76. 
Second  reading,  80.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  96.  Third  read- 
ing, 102.  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  163.) 


PARLIAMENT  BUILDINGS: 

Return  ordered  of  copies  of  report  relating  to  fire  at,  165.  Presented,  205. 
(Sessional  Papers  No.  68.)  Not  printed. 

PARTNERSHIPS.,  LIMITED  : 

Bill  (No.  143),  introduced  respecting,  11.  Second  reading,  17.  House 
£oes  into  Committee  on,  36.  Third  reading,  215.  R.A.,  274.  (10 
Ed.  VII.  c.  67.) 


xxx  vi  INDEX  1910 


PARTNERSHIPS,  REGISTRATION  OF  : 

Bill  (No.  142),  introduced  respecting,  11.     Second  reading,  17.     House 
1   goes  into  Committee  on,  145.     Third  reading,  254.     R.  A.,  274.      (10 
Ed.  VII.  c.  68.) 


PEACE,  JUSTICES  or: — See  Justices  of  tJie  Peace. 

PENETANGUISHENE,  TOWN  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  29.  Reported,  63.  Bill  (No.  7),  introduced 
and  referred  to  the  Railway  and  Municipal  Board,  65.  Reported,  and 
referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills,  129.  Reported,  181. 
Second  reading,  201.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  209.  Third 
reading,  221.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  122.) 

PEOPLE'S  RAILWAY  COMPANY  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  29.  Reported,  63.  Bill  (No.  18),  introduced 
and  referred,  66.  Reported  adversely,  85.  Recommitted  to  Com- 
mittee, 164.  Reported,  181.  Second  reading,  200.  House  goes  into 
Committee  on,  219.  Third  reading,  221.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII. 
c.  149.) 

PERSONAL  PROPERTY  : 

Bill  (No.  145),  introduced  respecting  mortgages  and  sales  of,  46.  Second 
reading,  54.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  68,  216.  Third  read- 
ing, 216.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  65.) 

PETERBOROUGH,  CITY  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  29.  Reported,  63.  Bill  (No.  22),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  66.  Reported,  152.  Second  reading,  166. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  185.  Third  reading,  196.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  123.) 

PETTY  TRESPASS  : 

Bill  (No.  126),  introduced  respecting,  10.  Second  reading,  16.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  35.  Third  reading,  153.  R.A.,  170.  (10 
Ed.  VII.  c.  50.) 


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PHARMACY  ACT  : 

Bill  (No.  200),  introduced  to  amend,  145.  Second  reading  and  referred 
to  the  Legal  Committee,  183.  Reported,  229.  House  goes  into  Com- 
mittee on;  third  reading,  245.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  78.) 
See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 

POLICE,  COMMISSIONERS  OF  : 

Bill  (No.  148),  introduced  respecting,  appointed  by  the  Government  of 
Canada,  23.  Second  reading,  34.  House  goes  into  Committee  on, 
43.  Third  reading,  153.  K.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  38.) 

POLICE  CONSTABLES: 

Bill  (No.  114),  introduced  to  authorize  to  take  Bail,  9.  Second  reading, 
15.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  24.  Third  reading,  153.  R.A., 
170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  40.) 

POLICE  MAGISTRATES: 

Bill  (No.  104),  introduced  respecting,  8.  Second  reading,  14.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  26,  222,  230.  Third  reading,  230.  R.A., 
274  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  36.) 


PORT  ARTHUR: 

Question  as  to  colonization  road  from,  to  Fort  Frances  and  Rainy  River, 
81. 


PORT  ARTHUR,  CITY  OF  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  56.  Reported,  131.  Bill  (No.  45),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  131.  Reported,  213.  Second  reading,  227. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  240.  Third  reading,  255.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  124.) 


PORT  ARTHUR  Y.  M.  C.  A. : 

Petition  for  Act  of  incorporation,  73.  Reported,  130.  Bill  (No.  54), 
Introduced  and  referred,  131.  Reported;  fees  remitted,  213,  229. 
Second  reading,  227.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  240.  Third 
reading,  254.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  164.) 


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INDEX  1010 


PORT  HOPE,  TOWN  OF  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  30.  Reported,  77.  Bill  (No.  25),  introduced 
and  referred,  80.  Eeported,  120.  Second  reading,  127.  House 
2;oes  into  Committee  on,  138.  Third  reading,  154.  K.A.,  170.  (10 
Ed.  VII.  c.  125.) 

POULTRY  INSTITUTE  : 

Report  presented,  54.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  4®-)     Printed. 

POWER  OF  ATTORNEY: 

Bill   (No.  121),  introduced  respecting,  9.     Second  reading,  16.     House 
'  goes  into  Committee  on,  24.     Third  reading,  153.     E.A.,  170.      (-10 
Ed.  VII.  c.  47.) 

POWER  COMMISSION  ACT  : 

Bill  (No.  164),  introduced  to  amend,  89.  Motion  for  second  reading 
negatived,  251-2.  See  Hydro-Electric  Power. 

PRINTING  AND  BINDING: 

1.  Agreements  and  Contracts  in  connection  with,  presented,  17.      (Ses- 

sional Papers  Nos.  53,  54-)     Printed. 

2.  Ratified  by  House,  36. 

3.  Committee  appointed,  40.    Report,  161,  257. 

4.  Recommend  the  purchase  of  Canadian  Annual  Review,  163.     And  King 

Dodds'  "  Canadian  Reminiscences,"  260. 

5.  Recommend  the  printing  of  extra  copies  of  Mines  Report,  260. 

PRIVATE  BILLS: 

• 

Committee  appointed,  39.  Report,  75,  79,  120,  125,  151,  170,  181,  195, 
213,  229. 

PRIVILEGES  AND  ELECTIONS  : 

Committee  appointed,  39.     No  report. 


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XXXIX 


PROVINCIAL  MUNICIPAL  AUDITOR  : 

Report  presented,  228.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  8.)     Printed. 
PUBLIC  ACCOUNTS: 

1.  Committee  appointed,  40.    Report,  264.     (Appendix  No.  1.) 

2.  Ten   months'   Accounts   presented,    27.     (Sessional   Papers  No.    1.) 

Printed. 

3.  Referred  to  Committee,  27. 
PUBLIC  HEALTH: 

1.  Bill  (No.  98),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act,  74.     Second  reading  and 

referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee,  123.     No  report. 

2.  Report  presented,  101.      (Sessional  Papers,  No.  20.)     Printed.     See 

Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 

« • 

PUBLIC  HIGHWAYS  : 

1.  Bill  (No.  166),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act  for  the  improvement  of,  89. 

Order  for  second  reading  discharged,  134. 

2.  Bill  (No.  209),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act  for  the  improvement  of, 

163.  Second  reading  and  referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee,  207. 
Reported,  214.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  226.  Third  reading. 
230.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  14.) 

PUBLIC  INSTITUTIONS  : 

Question  re  purchase,  directly,  of  meat  supplies,  198. 
PUBLIC  OFFICERS: 

Bill  (No.  100),  introduced  respecting  the  fees  of  certain,  8.  Second  read- 
ing, 14.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  219.  Third  reading,  222. 
R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  5.)  See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 

PUBLIC  WORKS: 

1.  Bill  (No.  158),  introduced,  23.  Second  reading,  35.  House  goes  into 
Committee  on,  210,  223.  Third  reading,  224.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed. 
VII.  c.  11.) 


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2.  Bill  (No.  101),  introduced  respecting  Riots  near,  23.     Second  reading, 

35.     House  goes  into  Committee  on,  42.     Third  reading,  153.     R.A., 
170.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  12.) 

3.  Report  presented,  74.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  12.)     Printed. 


QUEEN  VICTORIA  NIAGARA  FALLS  PARK: 

1.  Bill  (No.  152),  introduced  respecting,  37.    Second  reading,  44.    House 

goes  into  Committee  on,  48,  95,  224.    Third  reading,  254.    R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  21.) 

2.  Report  presented,  167.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  9.)     Printed. 
QUESTIONS  : 

1.  Ee  Survey  in  Fort  Frances  -and  Rainy  River,  81.    Mr.  MacKay  (Grey.) 

2.  Re  Hydro-Electric  Commission  expenditure*,  81.    Mr.  MacKay  (Grey.) 

3.  Ee  W.  W.  Baby,  reimbursement  of  certain  law  costs,  23.    Mr.  Machin. 

4.  Ee  publication,  in  pamphlet  form,  of  certain  Acts    for  distribution  to 

Municipal  Officials,  128.    Mr.  Stock. 

5.  Ee  deportation  of  undesirable  immigrants,  137.    Mr.  Studholme. 

0.  Ee  number  of  domestic  servants  sent  to  Province  by  J.  W.  Rigby,  155. 
Mr.  Studholme. 

7.  Ee  commencement  of  road  from  Sudbury  to  Sault  Ste.  Marie — how 

many  miles  completed,  16G.     Mr.  MacKay  (Grey.) 

8.  Ee    cost,    since    inception,    of    Railway  and    Municipal    Board,    197. 

Mr.  Elliott. 

9.  Ee  direct  purchase,  by  Public  Institutions,  of  their  own  supplies  of 

meats,  198.    Mr.  Kohler. 

10.  Ee  number  of  convictions  for  infraction  of  Liquor  License  Act,  in 

Town  of  Cobalt,  199.     Mr.  MacKay  (Grey.) 

11.  Ee  suggestion,  or  recommendation,  that  "  Lesson  Helps  "  be  issued  in 

connection  with  Public  School  Readers,  208.     Mr.  Stock. 


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12.  Re  number  of  immigrants  coming  to  Ontario,  owing  to  Provincial 

Grants  and  organization,  216.    Mr.  McDougal. 

13.  Ee  intention  of  Government  to  reduce  passenger  and  freight  rates  on 

the  Temiskaming  and  1ST.  O.  Railway,  217.    Mr.  McEwing. 

14.  Re  issue  of  Debentures  made  for  Park  and  Water  Works  purposes 

by  Burlington  Beach  Commissioners,  217.     Mr.  Reed  (Wentworth.) 

15.  Re  moneys    given  by    Province    to    Colleges    or    Universities,    217. 

Mr.  Elliott. 

16.  Re  number  of  convictions  made  under  -the  Motor  Vehicles  Act,  234. 

Mr.  Stock. 


DAILWAY  ACT:— See  Ontario  Railway  Ad. 
RAILWAY  AID: — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 
RAILWAY  COMMITTEE  : 

Appointed,  39.     Report,  84,  125,  160,  195. 
RAILWAY  CROSSINGS: 

Petition  respecting,  124. 

RAILWAY  AND  MUNICIPAL  BOARD: — See  Ontario  Railway  and  Municipal  Board. 
REAL  OR  PEKSONAL  ESTATE: 

Bill  (No.  136),  introduced  to  restrain  the  accumulation  of  the  profits 
or  produce  of,  11.  Second  reading,  17.  House  goes  into  Committee 
on,  25.  Third  reading,  153.  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  46.) 
See  Titles,  Mortgages. 

REGISTRY  ACT  : 

1.  Bill  (No.  171),  introduced  respecting  the  Registration  of  Instruments 

relating  to  Lands,  126.  Second  reading,  143.  House  goes  into  Com- 
mittee on,  173,  202,  223.  Third  reading,  223.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed. 
VII.  c.  60.) 

2.  Bill  (No.  198),  introduced  to  amend,  142.     Order  for  second  muling 

discharged,  202. 


xlii  INDEX  1910 

3.  Report  presented,  194.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  7.)  Printed. 
RELIGIOUS  INSTITUTIONS  : 

Bill  (No.  161),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Property  of, 
74.  Second  reading,  115.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  135. 
Third  reading,  154.  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  106.) 

REPLEVIN: — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 

RIGBY,  J.  W.: 

Question  as  to  how  many  domestic  servants  sent  to  Province  by,  155. 

RONDEAU,  PROVINCIAL  PARK  : 

Bill  (No.  149),  introduced  to  establish,  30.  Second  reading,  43.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  47.  Third  reading,  164.  R.A.,  170. 

(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  23.) 
/ 

ST.  CATHARINES,  CITY  OF: 

1.  Petition  for  Act   to   confirm  By-law  No.    2106,    29.      Reported,    63. 

Bill  (No.  19),  introduced  and  referred,  66.  Reported,  120.  Second 
reading,  127.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  138.  Third  reading; 
title  amended,  154.  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  126.) 

2.  Petition  for  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.   2116,   37.     Reported,   118. 

Bill  (No.  29),  introduced  and  referred,  121.  Reported,  181.  Second 
reading,  200.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  219.  Third  reading, 

221.  R.A.,  274.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  127.) 

3.  Petition  for  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.   2126,   56.     Reported,   118. 

Bill  (No.  42),  introduced  and  referred,  122.  Reported,  181.  Second 
reading,  200.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  219.  Third  reading, 

222.  R.A.,  274.    (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  128.) 

ST.  THOMAS  CEMETERY  CO'Y.  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  29.  Reported,  62.  Bill  (No.  15),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  65.  Reported,  76.  Second  reading,  81.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  92.  Third  reading,  102.  R.A.,  274.  (10 
Ed.  VII.  c.  159.) 


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ST.  THOMAS  STREET  RAILWAY  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  55.  Reported,  78.  Bill  (No.  40),  introduced 
and  referred,  80.  Reported,  125.  Second  reading,  134.  House  goes 
into  Committee  on,  138.  Third  reading,  154.  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed. 
VII.  c.  150.) 

SAN  JOSE  SCALE  : — See  Vegetation. 
SECRETARY  AND  REGISTRAR  : 

Report  presented,  167.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  18.)     Printed. 
SHEEP  AND  DOGS: 

1.  Bill  (No.  86),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act,  70.     Second  reading  and 

referred  to  the  Committee  on  Agriculture  and  Colonization,  123. 
Reported,  206.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  234.  Third  reading, 
254.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  97.) 

2.  Petition  respecting,  69. 
SHUNIAH,  MUNICIPALITY  OF  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  29.  Reported,  77.  Bill  (No.  20),  introduced 
and  referred,  79.  Reported,  213.  Second  reading,  227.  House  goes 
into  Committee  on,  240.  Third  reading,  254.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed. 
VII.  c.  129.) 

SIMCOE  RAILWAY  AND  POWER  COMPANY  : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  56.  Reported,  63.  Bill  (No.  44),  introduced 
and  referred,  95.  Reported,  195.  Second  reading,  208.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  226.  Third  reading,  229.  R.A.,  274. 

(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  151.) 

i 

SOLICITORS  : 

Bill  (No.  91),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act  respecting,  70.  Order  for 
second  reading  discharged,  134.  Petition  respecting,  72. 

SOUTHWOLD  AND  YARMOUTH,  TOWNSHIPS  OF  : 

Petition  for  Act  to  confirm  certain  By-laws  and  an  agreement  between  the, 
46.  Reported,  63.  Bill  (No.  33),  introduced  and  referred,  66. 
Reported,  79.  Second  reading,  90.  House  goes  into  Committee  on, 
96.  Third  reading,  103  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  130.) 


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SPEAKER,  MR.  : 

1.  Informs  House  of  vacancies  and  issue  of  new  Writs,  2. 

2.  That  Certificates  of  Elections  had  been  laid  upon  Table,  3. 

3.  That  he  had  obtained  His  Honour's  Speech,  7. 

4.  That  Returns  from  the  Records  of  Elections  had  been  laid  upon  the 

Table,  11. 

5.  That  Clerk  had  received  Reports  from  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills, 

57,  83,  135. 

6.  From  Railway  and  Municipal  Board^,  129. 

7.  Communicates  Report  on  State  of  the  Library,  17. 

SPEECH  : — See  Lieutenant-Governor. 

STANDING  ORDERS: 

1.  Committee  appointed,  40. 

2.  Report,  50,  62,  64,  77,  117,  119,  130,  131. 

3.  Recommend  extension  of  time,  63,  119. 

4.  Recommend   that   the   attention   of   Committees   be   called   to   certain 

matters,  64,  65,  79,  120,  131. 

STATIONARY  ENGINEERS  : — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 
STATUTE  LABOUR: 

1.  Bill  (No.  80),  introduced  respecting,  67.     Second  reading  and  referred 

to  Municipal  Committee,  91.  Reported,  181.  Order  for  House  to  go 
into  Committee  on,  discharged,  241. 

2.  Bill    (No.    183),    introduced   respecting,    126.      Second   reading   and 

referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee,  142.  Reported,  214.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  226.  Third  reading,  229.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  89.) 

3.  Petitions   respecting,    73. 


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STATUTES  AND  STATUTE  LAW  AMENDMENT  ACT  : 

1.  Bill  (No.  162),  introduced,  76.    Second  reading,  201.    House  goes  into 

Committee  on,  261.     Third  reading,  261.    E.A.,  274.     (10  Ed.  VII, 
c.  26.) 

2.  Statement   re   distribution   of  Revised   and   Sessional,    presented,    75. 

(Sessional  Papers  No.  64-)     Not  printed. 

3.  Question  as  to  publication,  in  pamphlet  form,  of  certain  Acts  for  dis- 

tribution to  Municipal  Officials,  128. 

4.  Return  ordered,  shewing  names  of  Judges,  etc.,  composing  the  Revision 

Commission,  cost,  when  to    be  completed,  etc.,  188.     Presented,  243. 
(Sessional  Papers  No.  75.)     Not  printed. 

STEAM  BOILERS  : 

Bill  (No.  228),  introduced  respecting,  215.  Second  reading,  226.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  233.  Third  reading,  254.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII,  c.  98.) 

STRATFORD,  CITY  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting  an  agreement  with  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway 
Company  of  Canada,  49.  Reported,  62.  Bill  (No.  21),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  66.  Reported,  171.  Second  reading,  1 84.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  218.  Third  reading,  221.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  131.) 

SUCCESSION  DUTY  ACT: 

1.  Bill    (No.    222),    introduced   to   amend,    196.      Second   reading,    208. 

House  goes  into  Committee  on,  225.    Third  reading,  230.    R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  6.) 

2.  Rules   and  Regulations  presented  under  the,   75.      (Sessional  Papers 

No.  63.)     Printed  for  distribution  only. 

SUDBURY  AND   SAULT  ROAD : 

Question  as  to  when  commenced,  how  many  miles  completed,  etc.,  166. 

SUMMARY  CONVICTIONS  : — See  Justices  of  the  Peace.    Statute  Law  Amendment 
Act. 

SUPPLEMENTARY  REVENUE  ACT: — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 


xlvi  INDEX  1910 

SUPPLY : 

1.  House  resolves  to  go  into  Committee,  32. 

2.  Estimates  presented  and  referred,  32,  44,  139,  1T3.     (Sessional  Papers 

No.  2.}     Printed. 

3.  Goes  into  Committee,  33,  88,  92,  97,  103,  139,  173. 

4.  Financial    Statement  delivered  and  Debate  on  adjourned,  52,  61,  71, 

76,  83.     Motion  carried,  88. 

5.  Eesolutions  reported  for  Concurrence,  33,  103,  146,  185. 

6.  Amendment  proposed  and  negatived  to  motion,  "  That  Mr.  Speaker  do 

now  leave  the  Chair: — "Regretting  that  current  expenditures  exceed 
current  receipts,  etc.,  etc.,   85-6. 

7.  House  resolves  to  go  into  Committee  of  Ways  and  Means,  32.     Goes 

into   Committee,   34,   193. 

8.  Bill  of  Supply  introduced    (No.   234)    and  read  a  first,   second  and 

third  time,  264.     E.  A.,  274.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  1.) 

SURROGATE  COURTS: 

1.  Bill  (No.  130),  introduced  respecting,  10.    Second  reading,  16.    House 

goes  into  Committee  on,  48,  126,  144.    Third  reading,  254.    E.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  31.) 

2.  Copies  of  Orders   in   Council  presented  under  Act,   48.      (Sessional 

Papers,  No.  59.}    Not  printed. 

3.  Copies  of  Orders  in  Council  presented,  57.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  61.) 

"Not  printed. 


AIL,  ESTATES: 

Bill  (No.  138),  introduced  respecting  the  Assurance  of,  22.  Second 
reading,  34.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  43.  Third  reading, 
164.  E.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  52.) 


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TAY,  TOWNSHIP  OF: 

1.  Petition  for  Act  respecting,  56.  Reported,  62.  Bill  (No.  32),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  66.  Reported,  152.  Second  reading,  200.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  209.  Third  reading,  215.  E.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  132.) 

2.  Petition  for  Act  to  confirm  Agreement  between  the,  and  the  Grand  Trunk 
Railway  Company  of  Canada,  56.  Reported,  62.  Bill  (No.  5), 
introduced  and  referred,  65.  Reported,  152.  Second  reading,  200. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  209.  Third  reading,  215.  R.A., 
274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  133.) 

TECHNICAL  SCHOOLS: 

1.  Motion  proposed  and  negatived   re   establishment   of  system   of,   86. 

See  Education. 

2.  Motion  proposed   and   superseded  by  amendment,   that   the   Province 

and  Municipalities  should  unite  in  establishment  of,  etc.,  etc.,  246-8. 

TELEPHONE    SYSTEMS  : — See     Ontario     Telephone     Act.      Local     Municipal 
Telephone. 


TEMISKAMING  AND  N.  O.  RAILWAY  : 

1.  Bill  (No.  176),  introduced  to  amend  the  Act,  102.     Second  reading, 

143.  Resolution  introduced;  Lieutenant-Governor's  recommendation 
signified;  passed  through  Committee  and  referred  to  Bill,  143-4. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  165.  Third  reading,  215.  R.A.,  271. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  15.) 

2.  Report   of   Commission   presented,   27.      (Sessional  Papers  No.   Jf'7.) 

Printed. 

3.  Question  as  to  reduction  of  passenger  rates,  etc.,  217. 

THORNBUEY,  TOWN  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  9,  29.  Reported,  50.  Bill  (No.  1), 
introduced  and  referred,  51.  Reported,  79.  Second  reading,  90. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  96.  Third  reading,  103.  R.A.,  170. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  134.) 


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THUNDER  BAY,  NEPIGON  AND  ST.  JOE  RAILWAY: 

Petition  for  Act  to  extend  time  for  the  commencement  and  completion 
of,  95.    Not  proceeded  with. 

TILLSONBURG  AND  SOUTHERN  COUNTIES  RADIAL  RAILWAY  i — See  Statute  Law 
Amendment  Act. 


TIME: 


Bill  (No.  117),  introduced  respecting  the  legal  meaning  of  expressions 
relative  to,  9.  Second  reading,  15.  House  goes  into  Committee  on, 
24.  Third  reading,  153.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  62.) 

TITLES : 

1.  Bill  (No.  131),  introduced  respecting  Vendors  and  Purchasers  and  to 

simplify,  10.  Second  reading,  16.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  27. 
Third  reading,  153.  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  58.) 

2.  Bill  (No.  139),  introduced  for  quieting  to  Real  Estate,  22.     Second 

reading,  34.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  43,  72.  Third  reading, 
254.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  59.) 

TORONTO,  CITY  OF: 

1.  Petition  for  Act  respecting,  73.     Reported,  117.     Bill  (No.  59),  intro- 

duced and  referred,  121.  Referred  to  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills, 
164.  Reported  and  recommitted  to  Committee  on  Private  Bills, 
178-80.  Reported,  213.  Second  reading,  241.  House  goes  into 
Committee  on,  244.  Third  reading,  255.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII. 
c.  135.) 

2.  Petition  re  payment  of  $200,000  towards  Toronto  Hospital  Site,  124. 

See  above.    Education,  5. 

3.  Fees  remitted  on  Bill  (No.  177),  229.     Not  proceeded  with. 

TORONTO  GENERAL  BURYING  GROUND: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting  the  Trustees  of,  29.  Reported,  50.  Bill 
(No.  12),  introduced  and  referred  to  the  Commissioners  of  Estate 
Bills,  51.  Reported  and  referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills, 
58.  Reported,  79.  Second  reading,  90.  House  goes  into  Committee 
on,  127.  Third  reading,  154.  R.A.,  170.  (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  160.) 


1910  INDEX  xlix 

TORONTO  GENERAL  HOSPITAL  ACT: — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 
TORONTO,  HALIBURTON  AND  PEMBROKE  RAILWAY  OO/Y: 

Petition  for  Act  of  incorporation,  49.     Reported,  77.     Bill   (No.   37), 

introduced  and  referred,  80.     Reported,  125.  Second  reading,  134. 

House  goes  into  Committee  on,  146.     Third  reading,  154.     R.A., 
170.     (10  Ed.  VII.  c.  152.) 

TORONTO,  LINDSAY  AND  PEMBROKE  RAILWAY: — See  Statute  Law  Amendment 

Act. 

TORONTO,  PUBLIC  SCHOOL  MATTERS,  IN  : — See  Education,  5. 
TORONTO  SUBURBAN  RAILWAY: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  95.  Reported,  130.  Bill  (No.  170.),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  131.  Reported,  160.  Second  reading,  172. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  185.  Third  reading,  197.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  153.) 

TORONTO  UNIVERSITY: 

Report  presented,  27.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  17.)  Printed.  See  Statute 
Law  Amendment  Act. 

TOWN  SITES: 

Bill  (No.  191),  introduced  respecting,  137.  Second  reading,  155.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  210.  Third  reading,  215.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  9.) 

TRACTION  ENGINES: 

Bill  (No.  194),  introduced  to  authorize  and  regulate  the  use  of  on  High- 
ways, 137.  Order  for  second  reading  discharged,  155. 

TRENTON,  TOWN  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  73.  Reported,  130.  Bill  (JSTo.-57),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  131.  Reported  withdrawn;  fees  remitted,  229. 

TRUANCY  ACT: 

Bill   (No.  205),  introduced  to  amend,  145.     Order  for  second  reading 

discharged,  184. 
D 


INDEX  1910 


TUBERCULOSIS  : 

Bill  (No.  62),  introduced  to  prevent  the  spread  of  Pulmonary,  42.     Order 
for  second  reading  discharged,   146. 


TEKKITOKY  ACT:—  See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 
UPPEE  CANADA  GEAMMAE  SCHOOL  LANDS  :  —  See  Clergy  Reserves. 

VACCINATION  AND  INOCULATION  : 

Bill  (No.  90),  introduced  respecting,  70.  Order  for  second  reading  dis- 
charged, 128. 

VEGETABLE  GEOWEES'  ASSOCIATION: 

Report  presented,  211.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  34-}     Printed. 
VEGETATION  : 

Bill  (No.  218),  introduced  to  prevent  the  spread  of  insect  and  fungous 
diseases  injurious  to,  182.  Second  reading,  208.  House  goes  into 
Committee  on,  256.  Third  reading,  256.  R.A.,  274.  (10  Ed.  VII. 
c.  99.) 

VENDOES  AND  PUECHASEES:  —  See  Titles. 

VETEEINAEY  COLLEGE:  —  See  Ontario  Veterinary  College. 


Bill  (No.  154),  introduced  respecting,  46.  Second  reading,  54.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  68.  Third  reading,  165.  R.A.,  170. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  72.)  See  Fair  Wages.  Mechanics.  Woodman's  Lien. 
Worlcs. 

WAHNAPITAE  RAILWAY  COMPANY: 

Petition  for  Act  of  incorporation,  30.  Reported,  50.  Bill  (No.  51), 
introduced  and  referred,  51.  Reported,  85.  Second  reading,  90. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  116.  Third  reading,  127.  R.A.,  170. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  154.) 


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WEEDS,  Noxious : 

Petition  re  spread  of,  84.    See  Vegetation. 
WESTERN  CENTRAL  KAIL  WAY  COMPANY: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  30.  Eeported,-  50.  Bill  (No.  10),  intro- 
duced 'and  referred,  51.  Reported,  84.  Second  reading,  90.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  116.  Third  reading,  127.  E,A.,  170. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  155.) 

WILLS  : 

Bill  (No.  137),  introduced  respecting,  22.  Second  reading,  34.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  42,  255.  Third  reading,  255.  E.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  57.) 

WINDSOR,  CITY  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  56.  Eeported,  118.  Bill  (No.  46),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  122.  Eeported,  171.  Second  reading,  184. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  202.  Third  reading,  207.  E.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  136.) 

WINNETT,  HENRY: — See  Niagara,  Town  of. 
WISMER,  JUDGE: — See  Surrogate  Court. 
WITNESSES  FOR  THE  CROWN: — See  Crown  Witnesses. 
WOLVES: — See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act. 
WOMEN'S  INSTITUTES: 

Eeport  presented,  54.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  J^l.)     Printed. 

WOODMAN'S  LIEN  FOR  WAGES  ACT: 

Bill  (No.  150),  introduced  respecting,  56.  Second  reading,  67.  House 
goes  into  Committee  on,  72.  Third  reading,  254.  E.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  70.) 

WOODSTOCK  Y.  M.  C.  A. : 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  56.  Eeported,  118.  Bill  (No.  58),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  122.  Eeported,  fees,  remitted,  152,  171.  Second 
reading,  166.  House  goes  into  Committee  on,  172.  Third  reading, 
183.  E.A.,  274.  (10  Edw.  VII.  c.  165.) 


lii  INDEX  1910 


WOBKMAN'S  COMPENSATION  ACT  : 

1.  Bill  (No.  178),  introduced  to  amend,  123.     Order  for  second  reading 

discharged,  155. 

2.  Bill  (No.  220),  introduced  to  amend,  182.     Order  for  second  reading 

discharged,  220. 

WORKS  : 

Bill  (No.  154),  introduced  to  secure  payment  of  Wages  for  labour  per- 
formed in  the  construction  of,  46.  Second  reading,  54.  House  goes 
into  Committee  on,  68,  96.  Third  reading,  165.  E.A.,  170.  (lU  Ed. 
VII.  c.  71.) 


ROADS:— See  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act 
YORK,  TOWNSHIP  OF: 

Petition  for  Act  respecting,  73.  Reported,  118.  Bill  (No.  93),  intro- 
duced and  referred,  121.  Reported,  181.  Second  reading,  201. 
House  goes  into  Committee  on,  209.  Third  reading,  221.  R.A.,  274. 
(10  Ed.  VII.  c.  1370 


LIST  OF   SESSIONAL   PAPERS 


PRESENTED  TO  THE  HOUSE  DURING  THE  SESSION. 


TITLE. 


No. 


REMARKS. 


Accounts,  Public,  for  ten  months 1    Printed. 

Agricultural  College,  Eeport 29 

Agricultural  and  Experimental  Union,  Eeport 31 

Agricultural  Societies,  Eeport    43 

Agriculture,  Department  of,  Eeport 28 

Archives,  Eeport  51 

Auditor,  Statement  of 57 

Bee-Keepers,  Eeport    37    Printed. 

Binding  and  Printing,  Contract 53 

Binding,   Contract    54          " 

Births,  Marriages  and  Deaths,  Eeport 19 

Blind  Institute,  Eeport — part  of 16 

Canadian  Northern  Eailway  in  Clay  Belt  of  Northern  Ontario  73    Not  Printed. 

Children  Neglected  and  Dependent,  Eeport   26    Printed. 

Colonization,  Eeport  of  Bureau    74 

Colonization  Eoads,  amount  paid  for  inspection 70    Not  Printed. 

Corn  Growers',  Eeport 35    Printed. 

Dairymen's   Association,    Eeport    38    Printed. 

Division  Courts'  Inspection,  Eeport 5 

Drainage,  Money  Loaned  for   71    Not  Printed. 

Education,  Eeport 16    Printed. 

Education,  Orders  in  Council   56    Not  Printed. 

Education,    County   Model    School   Certificates    Granted   to          _•__„ 

Teachers 67 

Education,  Permits  and  Extensions  Granted 72  ts 

Elections,  Eeturn  from  Eecords 50    Printed. 

Emigrants  brought  by  Salvation  Army 78    Not  Printed. 

Entomological  Society,  Eeport 36    Printed. 

Estimates,  1910-1911   2  " 

Factories,  Eeport    46    Printed. 

Farmers'  Institutes,  Eeport   . . . , , 40 

Feeble-Minded,  Eeport  on  the 23 

Fiat,  Cases  where  necessary 77    Vot  Printed. 

Fishermen,  Licenses  Granted  to,  in  Lake  Huron  and  else- 
where . , 62 

Fisheries  and  Game,  Eeport 13    Printed. 

Fruit  Branch,  Eeport ' 33 

Fruit  Growers',  Eeport 32 


[liii] 


IJST  OF  SESSIONAL  PAPERS. 


TITLE. 


No. 


REMARKS. 


Game  and  Fish,  Eeport j  13    Printed. 

Gaols  and  Prisons,  Eeport   I  25 

Gillies'  Limit,  Area  of,  etc 48    Not  Printed. 

Hand,  Game  Warden,  Eesignation  of,  etc .....!  76    Not  Printed. 

Health,  Eeport j  20    Printed. 

Highway  Improvement,  Eeport 14 

Horticultural  Societies',  Eeport   44 

Hospitals  and  Charities',  Eeport 24 

Hospitals  for  Idiots  and  Epileptics,  Eeport  22 

Hospitals  for  Insane,  Eeport 21 

Hydro-Electric   Power   Commission,    Award   of    Arbitrators 

re  Easements 69    Not  Printed. 

Idiots  and  Epileptics,  Hospital,  Eeport   22    Printed. 

Industries,  Eeport 45          " 

Infant  Mortality,  Eeport  on  66 

Insane,  Hospitals  for,  Eeport 21 

Insurance,   Eeport    10          " 

Insurance,    Permits    to    Effect,    in    Foreign    Unregistered 

Corporations 58    \rot  Printed. 

Labour,  Eeport   15    Printed. 

Lands,  Forests  and  Mines,  Eeport 3 

Land  Titles  Act,  Orders  in  Council   59    Not  Printed. 

Legal  Offices  Inspection,  Eeport   6    Printed. 

Library,  Eeport  on  State  of  52 

Liquor  License  Act,   Operation  of,  Eeport    27 

Live  Stock  Associations,  Eeport 39 

Loan  Corporations,  Eeport   11 

Milk  Commission,  Beport   55    Printed. 

Mines,  Bureau  of,  Eeport    4 

Ontario,    Situation,    Size,    Climate,    etc.    60    Printed  for  dis- 
tribution only. 

Ontario  Eailway  and  Municipal  Board,  Eeport   49    Printed. 

Ontario  Eeaders,  Tenders  for  Printing   65    Not  Printed. 

Ontario  Veterinary  College,  Eeport   30   Printed. 

Parliament  Buildings,  Eeports  re  Fire  at    68  \Not  Printed. 

Poultry  Institute,  Eeport 42    Printed. 

Printing  and  Binding  Contracts   , .  j  53 

Prisons  and  Gaols,  Eeport   25          " 

Provincial  Municipal  Auditor,  Eeport   3          " 

Public  Accounts,  ten  months    1          « 

Public  Works,  Eeport 12         " 

Queen  Victoria  Niagara  Falls  Park,  Eeport   9    Printed. 

Eailway  and  Municipal  Board,  Eeport   49    Printed. 

Eegistrar-General,  Eeport   19          " 

Registry  Offices,  Inspection,  Eeport   7         " 


LIST    OF    SESSIONAL    PAPERS. 


Iv 


TITLE. 

No. 

REMARKS. 

Secretary  and  Registrar,  Report   

1ft 

Printed 

Statutes  Commission,  Composition  of,  etc  

75 

Not  Printed. 

Statutes,  Distribution  of    

« 

Succession  Duty  Act,  Rules  and  Regulations       

64 

Printed  for  dis- 

Surrogate Court,  Orders  in  Council  

63 
59 

tribution  only. 
Not  Printed 

Surrogate  Court,  Orders  in  Council  

61 

<( 

Temiskaming  and  N.  0.  R.  Commission,  Report   

AH 

Printed 

Teachers'  Certificates  

rt  1 
G.<7 

Not  Printed. 

Teachers'   Permits   and   Extensions    

U  1 

79 

ee 

Toronto  University,  Report   

la 

1  7 

Printed. 

Vegetable  Growers'  Association,  Report  

34 

Printed 

Veterinary  College,  Report  

30 

<t 

Women's   Institutes,   Report    .  . 

44 

Printed 

PAPER  OEDEEED  BUT  NOT  BROUGHT  DOWN. 


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Legislation,  correspondence  suggesting   90 


JOURNALS 


OF  THE 


Legislative  Assembly 


OF  THE 


PROVINCE  OF  ONTARIO 


Tuesday,  25th  January,  1910. 

PROCLAMATION. 

Canada,       ^ 

Province    of  JOHN  MORISON  GIBSON. 

Ontario.        J 

EDWARD  VIlTH,  by  the  Grace  of  GOD,  of  the  United  Kingdom  of  Great  Britain 
and  Ireland  and  of  the  British  Dominions  beyond  the  Seas,  KING,  Defender 
of  the  Faith,  Emperor  of  India,  &c.,  &c.,  &c. 

To  Our  Faithful,  the  Members  elected  to  serve  in  the  Legislative  Assembly  of 
Our  Province  of  Ontario  and  to  every  of  you — GREETING. 

JAMES  JOSEPH  FOY,  1         VVT  HEREAS  it  is  expedient  for  certain  causes 
Attorney  General,    j  VV        and  considerations  to  convene  the  Legisla- 

tive Assembly  of  Our  said  Province,  WE  DO  WILL  that  you  and  each  of 
you,  and  all  others  in  this  behalf  interested,  on  TUESDAY,  the  TWENTY-FIFTH 
day  of  the  month  of  JANUARY  now  next,  at  OUR  CITY  OF  TORONTO, 
personally  be  and  appear  for  the  DESPATCH  OF  BUSINESS,  to  treat,  act,  do 
and  conclude  upon  those  things  which,  in  Our  Legislature  of  the  Province  of 
Ontario  by  the  Common  Council  of  Our  said  Province,  may  by  the  favour  of 
God  be  ordained.  HEREIN  FAIL  NOT. 

IN  TESTIMONY  WHEREOF,  we  have  caused  these  Our  Letters  to  be  made  Patent, 
and  the  Great  Seal  of  Our  Province  of  Ontario  to  be  here- 
unto affixed:  WITNESS,  His  Honour  JOHN  MORISON  GIBSON,  K.C., 
LL.D.,  &c.,  &c.,  &e.,  LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR  of  Our  Province  of 
Ontario,  at  Our  Government  House,  in  the  City  of  Toronto,  in  Our 


25TH  JANUARY.  1910 


said  Province,  this  TENTH  day  of  JANUARY,  in  the  year  of  Our 
Lord  One  thousand  nine  hundred  and  ten,  and  in  the  Ninth  year 
of  Our  Reign. 

By  Command, 

ARTHUR  H.  SYDERE, 

Clerk  of  the  Crown  in  Chancery. 


Tuesday,  the  twenty-fifth  day  of  January,  1910,  being  the  First  day  of  the 
Second  Meeting  of  the  Twelfth  Legislature  of  the  Province  of  Ontario  for  the 
Despatch  of  Business,  pursuant  to  a  Proclamation  of  His  Honour  John  Morison 
Gibson,  K.C.,  LL.D.,  &c.,  &c.,  &c.,  Lieutenant-Governor  of  the  Province. 


PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK  P.M. 

Mr.  Speaker  informed  the  House,  that  he  had  received  notifications  of 
vacancies  which  had  occurred  since  the  last  Session  of  the  House,  and  had 
issued  his  Warrants  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown  in  Chancery  for  new  Writs  for 
the  Election  of  Members  to  serve  in  the  present  Legislature  for  the  following 
Electoral  Districts: — 

VICTORIA,    EAST,   AND    MIDDLESEX,    NORTH. 


To  the  Honourable  Thomas  Crawford,  Speaker  of  the  Legislative  Assembly 
of  the  Province  of  Ontario. 

I,  the  undersigned,  John  Hilliard  Carnegie,  having  accepted  an  office  of 
emolument  under  the  Crown,  to  wit,  the  Office  of  Distributor  of  Law  Stamps 
at  Osgoode  Hall,  do  hereby  resign  my  seat  in  the  Legislative  Assembly  of  the 
Province  of  Ontario,  as  a  Member  Elect  for  the  Electoral  Division  of  the  East 
Riding  of  Victoria. 

In  testimony  whereof,  I  have  hereunto  set  my  hand  and  seal  this  30th  day 
of  April,  A.D.,  1909. 


Signed  and  sealed  in  the  presence  of 

JOHN  H.  CARNEGIE.  [L.S.] 


W.  B.  WILKINSON. 
ARTHUR  H.  SYDERE. 


Edw.  VII.  25TH  JANUARY. 


To  the  Honourable  Thomas  Crawford,  Speaker  of  the  Legislative  Assembly 
of  the  Province  of  Ontario,  Toronto,  Out. 

Dear  Sir, 

As  the  representative  of  the  Kiding  of  North  Middlesex  in  the  Legislative 
Assembly  of  the  Province  of  Ontario,  I  beg  leave  to  declare  that  I  hereby  resign 
my  seat  for  the  said  Kiding. 

Dated  at  Strathroy  this  twenty-ninth  day  of  October,  A.D.,  1909. 

Witnesses. 

GEO.  H.  ADAMSON, 

A    TTT   -D  DUNCAN  C.  Eoss. 

A.  W.  BIXEL. 


Mr.  Speaker  also  informed  the  House,  That  the  Clerk  had  laid  upon  the 
Table  the  following  Certificates : — 

PROVINCE  OF  ONTARIO. 

THIS  is  TO  CERTIFY  that  in  virtue  of  a  Writ  of  Election,  dated  the  first 
day  of  May,  1909,  issued  by  His  Honour  the  Lieutenant-Governor,  and 
addressed  to  William  J.  Read,  Esquire,  Returning  Officer  for  the  Electoral 
District  of  East  Victoria  for  the  election  of  a  Member  to  represent  the  said 
Electoral  District  of  East  Victoria  in  the  Legislative  Assembly  of  this  Province, 
in  the  room  of  John  Hilliard  Carnegie,  Esquire,  who  had  resigned  to  accept 
office,  to  wit,  the  office  of  Distributor  of  Law  Stamps  at  Osgoode  Hall,  Robert 
Mercer  Mason,  Esquire,  has  been  returned  as  duly  elected,  as  appears  by  the 
Return  to  the  said  Writ  of  Election,  dated  the  tenth  of  June,  1909,  which  is 
now  lodged  of  record  in  my  office. 

ARTHUR  H.  SYDERE, 

Toronto,  31st  December,  1909.  Clerk,  Legislative  Assembly. 

Ex  officio  Clerk  of  the  Crown  in  Chancery. 


PROVINCE  OF  ONTARIO. 

THIS  is  TO  CERTIFY  that  in  virtue  of  a  Writ  of  Election,  dated  the  ninth 
day  of  November,  1909,  issued  by  His  Honour  the  Lieutenant-Governor,  and 
addressed  to  Robert  Hutchinson,  Esquire,  Returning  Officer  for  the  Electoral 
District  of  North  Middlesex,  for  the  election  of  a  Member  to  represent  the  said 


25TH  JANUARY.  1910 


Electoral  District  of  North  Middlesex  in  the  Legislative  Assembly  of  this  Pro- 
vince, in  the  room  of  Duncan  Campbell  Koss,  Esquire,  who  had  resigned,  James 
William  Doyle,  Esquire,  has  been  returned  as  duly  elected,  as  appears  by  the 
Eeturn  to  the  said  Writ  of  Election,  dated  the  tenth  day  of  December,  1909, 
which  is  now  lodged  of  record  in  my  office. 

ARTHUR  H.  SYDERE, 

Toronto,  31st  December,  1909.  Clerk,  Legislative  Assembly. 

Ex  officio  Clerk  of  the  Crown  in  Chancery. 


Robert  Mercer  Mason,  Esquire,  Member  for  the  Electoral  Division  of  East 
Victoria,  and  James  William  Doyle,  Esquire,  Member  for  the  Electoral  Division 
of  North  Middlesex,  having  taken  the  Oaths  and  subscribed  the  Boll,  took  their 
seats. 


The  House  then  adjourned  during  pleasure. 
And  after  some  time  the  House  resumed. 

His  Honour  John  Morison  Gibson,  K.C.,  LL.D.,  &c.,  &c.,  &c.,  Lieutenant- 
Governor  of  the  Province,  then  entered  the  House  and  being  seated  in  the  Chair 
on  the  Throne,  was  pleased  to  open  the  Session  by  the  following  gracious  Speech 
to  the  House: — 

Mr.  Speaker  and  Gentlemen  of  the  Legislative  Assembly. 

I  am  glad  to  meet  you  again  as  the  representatives  of  the  people  of 
Ontario  at  the  opening  of  another  session  of  the  Legislature. 

Our  thanks  are  due  to  Almighty  God  for  another  bountiful  harvest,  and 
for  the  general  prosperity  of  our  people. 

It  afforded  me  great  pleasure  to  take  part  in  the  welcome  accorded,  under 
the  auspices  of  my  Ministers,  to  Sir  Lomer  Gouin,  Prime  Minister  of  the 
Province  of  Quebec,  a  few  weeks  ago,  as  an  acknowledgment  of  and  return 
for  the  gracious  and  generous  hospitality  of  which  the  First  Minister  of 
my  Government  was  the  recipient  in  the  City  of  Quebec  on  the  occasion  of 
the  celebration  of  the  founding  of  that  city  by  Champlain  and  the  nationaliza- 
tion of  the  Quebec  battlefields.  Such  visits  cannot  fail  to  result  in  strength- 
ening the  bonds  of  mutual  affection  which  should  and  do  exist  between  all  the 
Provinces  of  the  Dominion. 


Edw.  VII.  25TH  JANUARY. 


You  will  be  glad  to  know  that  substantial  progress  has  already  been  made 
in  the  restoration  of  the  legislative  library,  which  was  destroyed  by  fire  some 
months  ago.  In  this  connection  we  have  to  acknowledge  the  prompt  and 
generous  assistance  accorded  by  the  Governments  of  the  Dominion,  and  of 
all  the  different  Provinces  of  Canada,  as  well  as  the  Government  of  the  United 
States,  in  replacing  important  public  records  that  were  lost.  It  is  the  inten- 
tion, also,  of  His  Majesty's  Imperial  Government  to  aid  in  the  same  way. 
You  will  be  asked  to  give  a  formal  expression  of  thanks  of  the  Legislature  for 
the  valuable  assistance  thus  freely  afforded  by  these  Governments,  as  well  as 
by  several  private  donors. 

By  making  advantageous  contracts  with  the  publishers,  my  Government 
has  been  able  greatly  to  reduce  the  price  of  text-books  in  the  schools  of  the 
Province.  Adopting  the  principle  of  open  competition  wherever  possible  in 
awarding  contracts,  text-books  of  the  best  modern  character,  both  in  respect 
to  contents  and  mechanical  production,  have  been  obtained.  The  public  school 
reading  books  may  now  be  purchased  by  parents  for  their  children  at  one- 
third  of  the  previous  price,  and  there  are  corresponding  decreases  in  the  cost 
of  other  public  school  and  high  school  text-books. 

The  expansion  of  the  mineral  industry  goes  on  apace,  the  revenue  derived 
therefrom  in  the  ten  months  preceding  the  31st  of  October,  1909,  amounting 
to  about  one  million  dollars.  The  output  of  silver  from  the  mines  of  Cobalt 
has  placed  this  Province  third  among  the  silver-producing  communities,  and 
the  Sudbury  nickel  mines  now  yield  the  bulk  of  the  world's  supply  of  this  metal. 
During  the  past  year  discoveries  of  gold  have  been  made  in  Northern  Ontario, 
and  the  prospects  are  said  to  be  very  favourable.  It  is  becoming  more  and 
more  apparent  that  in  Northern  Ontario  there  is  a  vast  store  of  mineral  wealth 
yet  largely  undeveloped. 

During  the  fiscal  year  (ten  months)  ending  31st  October,  1909,  the 
Temiskaming  &  Northern  Ontario  Railway  transported,  without  accident, 
580,948  passengers,  and  the  total  net  earning  of  the  railway  for  the  same 
period  amounted  to  the  sum  of  $692,407.  There  is  good  ground  for  the  belief 
that  there  are  no  better  farm  lands  in  Canada  than  in  the  clay  belt  of  Ontario, 
where  millions  of  acres  lie  waiting  the  settler.  During  the  past  year  quantities 
of  hay,  oats  and  vegetables  have  been  raised  and  shipped  by  the  provincial 
railway,-  which  in  turn  has  brought  in  large  numbers  of  agricultural  imple- 
ments, such  as  reapers,  mowers,  ploughs,  threshing  outfits,  etc. 

The  provincial  yield  of  agricultural  products  for  the  year  was  a  fairly 
good  one,  and  prices  were  higher  than  for  many  years  past.  The  quality  of 
dairy  produce  was  never  so  good,  and  in  this  we  now  see  some  of  the  results 
of  the  efforts  put  forth  and  instruction  provided  by  the  Department  of  Agri- 
culture. The  attendance  at  the  Agricultural  College  has  increased,  and  the 
wisdom  of  the  additional  appropriation  for  the  Winter  Fair  at  Guelph  has 
been  made  clear  by  the  increase  in  the  attendance  and  the  number  of  exhibits 
The  work  of  the  district  representatives  of  the  Agricultural  Department  assigned 
to  a  number  of  counties  in  the  Province  brings  the  question  of  instruction 
directly  home  to  the  farmer  and  is  highly  appreciated  by  the  people.  Durinc 


25TH  JANUARY.  1910 


the  recess  preparations  have  been  in  progress  for  making  renewed  and  additional 
efforts  to  induce  the  immigration  of  farm  labourers  and  domestic  servants.  A 
provincial  agent  has  been  appointed  at  London,  where  valuable  office  premises 
have  been  engaged,  and  prospects  are  good  for  the  coming  year. 

The  Commission  appointed  several  months  ago  by  my  Government  to 
enquire  into  the  existing  conditions  and  methods  whereby  milk  is  now  being 
produced,  cared  for  and  supplied  to  the  people  of  the  Province  for  domestic 
consumption  and  dairying  purposes,  and  to  investigate  the  methods  whereby 
clean,  wholesome,  sanitary  milk  is  being  successfully  supplied  to  consumers, 
has  concluded  its  labours,  and  the  report  of  the  Commission  will  be  laid  before 
you  forthwith. 

Considerable  progress  has  been  made  in  carrying  out  the  construction  of 
the  transmission  lines  required  for  the  distribution  of  electric  power  to  the 
various  municipalities  that  entered  into  agreement  wth  the  Hydro-Electric 
Commission  for  supplies  of  power.  Efforts  have  in  the  meantime  been  made 
by  petitions  in  that  behalf,  and  otherwse,  to  secure  disallowance  of  the  legisla- 
tion of  last  session  passed  at  the  request  of  municipalities  interested,  having 
for  its  object  confirmation  of  the  contracts  entered  into  between  the  municipali- 
ties and  the  Commission.  The  answer  of  the  Province  to  these  petitions,  for- 
warded on  7th  December,  1909,  firmly  resisted  interference  with  legislation 
clearly  within  the  limit  of  Provincial  jurisdiction,  but  up  to  the  present  time 
my  Government  has  received  no  information  as  to  a  decision  by  the  Dominion 
Government. 

The  remarkable  and  continuous  advance  in  the  price  of  foodstuffs  and  of 
many  articles  of  household  use,  has  attracted  and  certainly  merits  public  atten- 
tion. It  has  already  caused  hardship  in  many  households  and  promises  to  add 
grievously  to  the  burden  of  living,  especially  in  our  cities  and  towns,  except 
in  the  cases  of  people  of  large  incomes.  It  would  seem  that  prompt  and  thor- 
ough enquiry  is  necessary  with  a  view  to  the  possible  suggestion  of  a  remedy. 
Obviously  this  condition  of  affairs,  affecting  the  people  of  the  Dominion  of 
Canada  as  a  whole,  comes  within  the  purview  of  the  Dominion  Government  and 
Parliament,  and  it  is  to  be  hoped  that  such  enquiry  will  be  instituted. 

A  satisfactory  site  near  the  City  of  Guelph  for  the  new  Central  Prison 
has  been  secured,  and  the  work  of  construction  will  be  commenced  in  due  course. 

The  work  of  revision  of  the  Statutes  has  been  proceeded  with  as  rapidly 
as  regard  for  the  important  nature  of  the  work  will  allow,  and  it  is  hoped  will 
be  finished  during  the  coming  year.  A  large  number  of  the  revised  Acts  will 
be  laid  before  you  for  your  approval. 

The  Special  Committee  appointed  at  the  last  Session  of  the  Legislature, 
to  whom  the  second  report  of  the  Standing  Committee  on  Municipal  Law 
adopted  by  the  House  on  the  Second  day  of  April  last,  and  the  several  Bills 
to  amend  the  Assessment  Act  mentioned  therein,  were  referred,  with  instruc- 
tions to  meet  and  consider  the  same  during  the  recess,  has  made  a  report  which 
will  be  presented  to  you  for  your  consideration,  together  with  a  Bill  founded 
thereon. 


Edw.  VII.  25TH  JANUARY. 


Bills  amending  several  Statutes  of  a  public  nature  will  be  laid  before  you. 

My  Ministers  have  had  under  consideration  the  desirability  of  further 
legislation  with  reference  to  compensation  of  injuries  to  workmen.  A  Com- 
mission will  be  issued  having  for  its  object  an  enquiry  into  the  working  of  such 
legislation  elsewhere,  with  a  view  to  an  enactment  dealing  with  this  very  im- 
portant subject,  and  having  due  regard  to  the  conditions  which  surround  it 
here. 

It  affords  me  pleasure  to  inform  you  that  the  revenues  of  the  Province 
are  considerably  in  excess  of  the  estimates. 

The  Public  Accounts  will  be  laid  before  you  for  your  consideration  at  the 
earliest  moment,  and  the  Supplementary  Estimates  for  the  current  year  will 
also  be  submitted  for  your  approval  at  an  early  date. 

I  feel  assured  that  you  will  give  careful  consideration  to  the  various  sub- 
jects which  will  come  before  you,  and  I  trust  that  the  best  interests  and  wel- 
fare of  this  great  Province  will  be  served  by  your  deliberations. 


His  Honour  the  Lieutcnant-Governor  was  then  pleased  to  retire. 


Mr.  Speaker  then  reported,  That  to  prevent  mistakes,  he  had  obtained  a 
copy  of  His  Honour's  Speech,  which  he  read. 

On  motion  of  Sir  James  Whitney,  seconded  by  Mr.  Foy, 

Ordered,  That  the  Speech  of  His  Honour  the  Lieutenant-Governor,  to  this 
House,  be  taken  into  consideration  To-morrow. 


On  motion  of  Sir  James  Whitney,  seconded  by  Mr.  Foy, 

Resolved,  That  Select  Standing  Committees  of  this  House,  for  the  present 
Session,  be  appointed  for  the  following  purposes: — 1.  On  Privileges  and  Elec- 
tions ;  2.  On  Railways ;  3.  On  Miscellaneous  Private  Bills ;  4.  On  Standing 
Orders;  5.  On  Public  Accounts;  6.  On  Printing;  1.  On  Municipal  Law;  8. 
On  Legal  Bills;  9.  On  Agriculture  and  Colonization,  and  10.  On  Fish  and 
Game;  which  said  Committees  shall  severally  be  empowered  to  examine  and 
enquire  into  all  such  matters  and  things  as  shall  be  referred  to  them  by  the 
House,  and  to  report  from  time  to  time  their  observations  and  opinions  thereon, 
with  power  to  send  for  persons,  papers  and  records. 


25TH  JANUARY.  1910 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill   (No.  108),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Lieutenant-G-overnor 
and  His  Deputies."     Sir  James  Whitney. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  103),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Territorial  Division  of 
Ontario  for  Municipal  and  Judicial  purposes."     Sir  James  Whitney. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  100),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  Fees  of  certain  Public 
Officers."     Mr.  Toy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  104),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Police  Magistrates."     Mr. 
Toy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  107"),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Procedure  before  Justices 
of  the  Peace  and  Summary  Convictions."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  109),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Appeals  to  His  Majesty 
in  His  Privy  Council."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill    (No.   110),   intituled   "An  Act  respecting  the   Supreme   Court  of 
Canada  and  the  Exchequer  Court  of  Canada."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  Ill),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Judges  of  the  Supreme 
Court  of  Judicature  for  Ontario."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  113),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  Disputes  concerning  Bound- 
ary Lines."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  25TH  JANUARY. 


Bill  (No.  114),  intituled  "  An  Act  to  authorize  Police  Constables  to  take 
Bail."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  115),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  Expenses  of  the  Admin- 
istration of  Justice."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  116),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  Division  Courts."     Mr. 
Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  117),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Legal  Meaning  of  Ex- 
pressions relative  to  Time."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  118),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Justices  of  the  Peace." 
Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  119),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Constables."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  120),  intituled  "An  Act  to  provide  for  the  payment  of  Wit- 
nesses of  the  Crown."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  121),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  Powers  of  Attorney."     Mr. 
Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

to 

Bill   (No.   122),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Law  of  England  in 
certain  matters."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


10  25TH  JANUARY.  1910 

Bill  (No.  123),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  rights  of  Aliens  in 
relation  to  Eeal  Property."  Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the 'second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  125),  intituled  "An  Act  to  provide  for  the  better  Government 
of  that  part  of  Ontario,  situated  in  the  vicinity  of  the  Falls  of  Niagara."  Mr. 
Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  126),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Petty  Trespasses."  Mr. 
Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  127),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Short  Forms  of  Convey- 
ances." Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the     second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  128),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Short  Forms  of  Leases." 
Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  129),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  Short  Forms  of  Mortgages." 
Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  130),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Surrogate  Courts." 
Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  131),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Vendors  and  Purchasers 
and  to  simplify  Titles."  Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  jthe  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  132),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Estreats."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


Edw.  Vll .  25TH  AND  26TH  JANUARY.  11 

Bill  (No.  133),  intituled  "  An  Act  to  amend  the  Mercantile  Law."     Mr. 
Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  he  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  134),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  Mortgages  of  Eeal  Estate." 
Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  136),  intituled  "An  Act  to  restrain  the  Accumulation  of  the 
Profits  or  Produce  of  Keal  or  Personal  Estate."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.   140),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  County  Courts  and 
District  Courts."    Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  142),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  Registration  of  Partner- 
ships."   Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-mor 

Bill   (No.   143),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Limited  Partnerships." 
Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  4  p.m. 


Wednesday,  26th  January,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK  P.M. 

Mr.  Speaker  informed  the  House:  That  the  Clerk  had  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

A  Supplementary  Return  from  the  Record  of  the  several  Elections  in  the 
Electoral  Divisions  of  East  Victoria  and  North  Middlesex  subsequent  to  the 
General  Elections  of  June  8th,  1908,  shewing: 


12  26TH  JANUARY.  1910 

(1)  The  number  of  Votes  Polled  for  each  Candidate  in  each  Electoral  Dis- 
trict in  which  there  was  a  contest ; 

(2)  The  majority  whereby  each  successful  Candidate  was  returned; 

(3)  The  total  number  of  Votes  Polled; 

(4)  The  number  of  Votes  remaining  Unpolled ; 

(5)  The  number  of  names  on  the  Polling  Lists ; 

(6)  The  number  of  Ballot  Papers  sent  out  to  each  Polling  Place ; 
(T)  The  Used  Ballot  Papers; 

(8)  The  Unused  Ballot  Papers ; 

(9)  The  Kejected  Ballot  Papers ; 

(10)  The  Cancelled  Ballot  Papers ; 

(11)  The  Declined  Ballot  Papers ;  and 

(12)  The  Ballot  Papers  taken  from  Polling  Places.      (Sessional  Papers 
No.  50.) 


The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

By  Mr.  Matheson,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Smith's  Falls; 
also,  the  Petition  of  Township  Council  of  Burgess. 

By  Mr.  McNaught,  the  Petition  of  the  Toronto  General  Burying  Grounds ; 
also,  the  Petition  of  the  Toronto  General  Trusts  Company,  Charles  Northcote 
and  others;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Western  Central  Eailway  Company. 

By  Mr.  Thompson  (Simcoe),  two  Petitions  of  the  Town  Council  of  Barrie; 
also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Sunnidale. 

By  Mr.  Lackner,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Berlin. 

By  Mr.  Grigg,  the  Petition  of  the  Bruce  Mines  and  Algoma  Railway  Com- 
pany. 

By  Mr.  Nesbitt,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Campbellford. 


Edw.  V1L  26TH  JANUARY.  13 

By  Mr.  Shaw,  the  Petition  of  the  Union  Trust  Company. 

By  Mr.  McPherson,  the  Petition  of  Charles  M.  Garvey  and  others  of 
Toronto;  also,  the  Petition  of  Lester  McDonnell  Coulter  of  Toronto. 

• 

By  Mr.  Carscallen,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Napanee. 

By  Mr.  Jessop,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Niagara;  also,  the 
Petition  of  Henry  Winnett  of  Toronto;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council 
of  St.  Catharines. 

By  Mr.  Hearst,  the  Petition  of  J.  R.  Booth  and  others  of  Ottawa ;  also,  the 
Petition  of  Donald  D.  Mann  and  others  of  Toronto. 

By  Mr.  C alder,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Oshawa. 

By  Mr.  Fripp,  the  Petition  of  the  Ottawa  Young  Men's  Christian  Associa- 
tion. 

By  Mr.  Tudhope,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Penetanguishene. 

By  Mr.  Ross,  the  Petition  of  the  People's  Railway  Company. 

By  Mr.  Bradburn,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  Peterborough. 

By  Mr.  Macdiarmid,  the  Petition  of  the  St.  Thomas  Cemetery  Company. 

By  Mr.  Carrick,  the  Petition  of  the  Municipality  of  Shuniah. 

By  Mr.  McKeown,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Thornbury. 

By  Mr.  Preston  (Durham),  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Port 
Hope. 

By  Mr.  Mason,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Verulam;  also, 
the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Emily ;  also,  two  Petitions  of  the  Town- 
ship Council  of  Stanhope ;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Bexley. 


Mr.  Lennox  moved,  seconded  by  Mr.  Grigg, 

That  an  humble  Address  be  presented  to  His  Honour  the  Lieutenant- 
Governor  of  Ontario,  as  follows : — 

To  His  Honour  John  M  orison  Gibson,  K.C.,  LL.D.,  etc.,  etc.,  etc.,  Lieutenant- 

Governor  of  the  Province  of  Ontario. 


26TH  JANUARY.  1910 


We,  His  Majesty's  most  dutiful  and  loyal  subjects,  the  Legislative  Assem- 
bly of  the  Province  of  Ontario,  now  assembled,  beg  leave  to  thank  Your 
Honour  for  the  gracious  Speech  Your  Honour  has  addressed  to  us. 

And  the  Motion,  having  been  put,  was  carried  and  it  was 

Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  presented  to  His  Honour  the  Lieu- 
tenant-Governor of  Ontario,  as  follows: — 

To  His  Honour  John  Morison  Gibson,  K.C.,  LL.D.,  etc.,  etc.,  etc.,  Lieutenant- 
Governor  of  the  Province  of  Ontario. 

We,  His  Majesty's  most  dutiful  and  loyal  subjects,  the  Legislative  Assem- 
bly of  the  Province  of  Ontario,  now  assembled,  beg  leave  to  thank  Your 
Honour  for  the  gracious  speech  Your  Honour  has  addressed  to  us. 

The  Address,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  was  agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Address  be  engrossed  and  presented  to  His  Honour  the 
Lieutenant-Governor  by  those  Members  of  this  House  who  are  Members  of  the 
Executive  Council. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time : — 

Bill  (No.  108),  Respecting  the  Lieutenant-Governor  and  His  Deputies. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  103),  Respecting  the  Territorial  Division  of  Ontario  for  Muni- 
cipal and  Judicial  Purposes. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill    (No.   100),  Respecting  the  Fees  of  certain  Public  Officers. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  104),  Respecting  Police  Magistrates. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  107),  Respecting  Procedure  before  Justices  of  the  Peace  and 
Summary  Convictions. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  26TH  JANUARY.  «  15 

Bill  (No.  109),  Respecting  Appeals  to  His  Majesty  in  His  Privy  Council 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  110),  Respecting  the  Supreme  Court  of  Canada  and  the  Ex- 
chequer Court  of  Canada. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  Ill),  Respecting  the  Judges  of  the  Supreme  Court  of  Judica- 
ture for  Ontario. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  113),  Respecting  Disputes  concerning  Boundary  Lines. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  114),  To  authorize  Police  Constables  to  take  Bail. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  115),  Respecting  the  Expenses  of  the  Administration  of  Justice. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  116),  Respecting  the  Division  Courts. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  117),  Respecting  the  Legal  Meaning  of  Expressions  relative 
to  Time. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  118),  Respecting  Justices  of  the  Peace. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  119),  Respecting  Constables. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  120),  To  provide  for  the  Payment  of  Witnesses  of  the  Crown. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


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Bill  (No.  121),  Kespecting  Powers  of  Attorney. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  122),  Adopting  the  Law  of  England  in  Certain  Matters. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  123),  Respecting  the  Rights  of  Aliens  in  relation  to  Real  Pro- 
perty. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  125),  To  provide  for  the  better  Government  of  that  part  of 
Ontario  situated  in  the  vicinity  of  the  Falls  of  Niagara. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  126),  Respecting  Petty  Trespasses. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  127),  Respecting  Short  Forms  of  Conveyances. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  128),  Respecting  Short  Forms  of  Leases. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  129),  Respecting  Short  Forms  of  Mortgages. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  130),  Respecting  the  Surrogate  Courts. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill    (No.    131),   Respecting  Vendors   and   Purchasers   and   to   Simplify 
Titles. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  132),  Respecting  Estreats. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  133),  To  amend  the  Mercantile  Law. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


Edw.    VII.  26TH  AND  2iTH  JANUARY.  17 

Bill  (No.  134),  Eespecting  Mortgage  of  Keal  Estate. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  136),  To  restrain  the  Accumulation  of  the  Profits  or  Produce  of 
Real  or  Personal  Estate. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  140),  Respecting  the  County  Courts  and  District  Courts. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  142),  Respecting  the  Registration  of  Partnerships. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House    To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  143),  Respecting  Limited  Partnerships. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


Mr.  Matheson  presented  to  the  House,  by  command  of  His  Honour  the 
Lieutenant-Governor : — 

Agreement  and  Contract  with  William  Briggs,  D.D.,  Book  Steward  of  the 
Methodist  Church,  in  connection  with  the  Printing  and  Binding  for  the  Legis- 
lative Assembly  of  Ontario  (Sessional  Papers,  No.  53.) 

Also,  Agreement  and  Contract  with  E.  H.  Harcourt  Company,  Limited, 
in  connection  with  the  Binding,  etc.,  for  the  Legislative  Assembly  of  Ontario 
(Sessional  Papers,  No.  54.) 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  6.15  P.M. 


Thursday,  27th  January,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK  P.M. 

Mr.  Speaker  communicated  to  the  House: — 

Report  of  the  Librarian  on  the  state  of  the  Library.      (Sessional  Papers, 

No.  52.) 


18  27TH  JANUARY.  1910 


The   following  Petitions   were   severally  brought   up   and   laid   upon   the 
Table:— 

By  Mr.  Machin,  the  Petition  of  the  Board  of  Trade,  Kenora  ;  also,  the 
Petition  of  the  Town  of  Keewatin. 

By  Mr.  Stock,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  St.  Marys. 

By  Mr.  Wilson,  the  Petition  of  Ingersoll  Olmsted  and  others  of  Hamil- 
ton. 


Mr.  Hanna  from  the  Special  Committee  appointed  at  the  last  Session  of 
the  Legislature  to  consider  Bills  numbered  119,  143,  148,  164  and  201  to 
amend  the  Assessment  Act  and  such  other  amendments  as  might  seem  desirable 
presented  their  Report  which  was  read  as  follows : — 

The  Committee  met  on  November  23rd,  24th  and  25th,  holding  morning 
and  afternoon  Sessions  each  day. 

Deputations  and  representatives  of  varied  interests  asking  for  amend- 
ments to  the  Act  were  heard,  among  others  The  Retail  Merchants  Association, 
The  Canadian  Manufacturers  Association,  The  Canadian  Press  Association, 
The  Single  Tax  Association,  The  Ontario  Municipal  Association,  Railway, 
Express  and  Telephone  Companies  and  Railway  Engineers,  Conductors,  Fire- 
men and  Brakemen.  The  Dominion  Grange  also  sent  a  large  deputation  ask- 
ing that  a  heavier  tax  be  imposed  on  the  property  of  railways  either  by  the 
Province  or  by  the  municipalities. 

The  Assessment  Commissioners  of  Toronto,  Ottawa  and  London  attended 
all  the  meetings  of  the  Committee  and  gave  the  Committee  much  assistance  in 
explaining  how  proposed  amendments  would  work  out. 

The  Committee  also  had  the  advantage  of  the  services  of  Mr.  Chisholm, 
formerly  solicitor  for  the  City  of  Toronto,  who  appeared  on  behalf  of  the  muni- 
cipalities. 

It  is  noteworthy  in  connection  with  the  working  out  of  the  business  assess- 
ment which  was  substituted  in  1905  for  the  old  personal  property  assessment 
that  the  Secretary  of  the  Ontario  Retail  Merchants  Association  stated  in  his 
address  before  the  Committee  that  the  present  system  was  working  very  satis- 
factorily and  that  the  complaints  generally  came  from  persons  who  did  not 
pay  before. 

The  Committee  find  that  it  is  generally  conceded  that  the  business  assess- 
ment is  preferable  to  the  assessment  of  personalty. 


Edw.  VII.  27TH  JANUARY.  19 

The  delegates  who  addressed  the  Committee  on  behalf  of  the  Kailway 
Engineers,  Conductors,  Firemen  and  Brakesmen  asking  that  exemption  on  in- 
come from  personal  earnings  be  increased,  made  out  a  strong  case  for  special 
consideration,  but  the  Committee  thought,  in  view  of  the  increased  cost  of 
living,  a  general  increase  in  the  exemption  of  the  personal  earnings  of  house- 
holders and  heads  of  families  would  meet  the  case. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  not  only  the  Bills  specially 
referred  to  but  also  the  provisions  of  all  Bills  proposing  amendments  to  the 
present  Act  since  it  came  into  force  but  which  did  not  reach  a  third  reading. 

A  number  of  proposed  amendments  contained  in  letters  and  petitions 
were  also  considered. 

Petitions  have  been  received  from  about  230  municipalities  in  the  Pro- 
vince asking  for  power  to  tax  improvement  values  at  a  lower  rate  than  land 
values — the  difference  in  the  rates  in  each  case  to  be  determined  by  the  munici- 
pality. 

The  Committee  think  that  any  such  proposal  would  not  be  advisable, 
believing  that  the  same  principle  of  assessment  should  apply  generally  through- 
out the  Province  and  should  not  be  left  to  the  will  of  each  municipality. 

In  this  connection  is  should  be  borne  in  mind  that  under  the  present  Act 
buildings  are  only  to  be  assessed  for  the  amount  by  which  they  increase  the 
value  of  the  land  and  that  the  cost  has  no  bearing  on  the  assessment. 

The  new  Act  provides  for  a  separate  assessment  of  lands  and  buildings, 
and  because  of  this  an  impression  exists  in  some  quarters  that  buildings  are  to 
be  assessed  for  their  cost. 

The  present  Act  only  came  into  force  on  1st  January,  1905.  Since  that 
time  thirty-nine  distinct  amendments  have  been  made  to  the  Act,  the  effect 
of  which  has  been  generally  speaking  to  lessen  the  burden  of  taxation  where 
it  could  least  easily  be  borne  and  to  increase  it  in  the  case  of  persons  best 
able  to  pay.  The  increase  in  the  exemption  on  income  derived  from  personal 
earnings  is  a  case  in  point. 

When  the  present  Act  was  passed  a  householder  in  a  city  or  town  of 
10,000  or  over  was  exempt  on  $1,000  and  in  other  municipalities  on  $700. 

In  1906  the  exemption  of  $1,000  was  extended  to  cities  and  towns  of 
5,000  or  over  not  only  in  the  case  of  a  householder  but  of  the  head  of  a  family 
occupying  part  of  a  house. 

The  exemption  of  $700  in  other  municipalities  was  not  raised  but  was 
granted  to  the  head  of  a  family  as  well  as  a  householder.  In  addition  the 


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income  from  investments,  etc.,  up  to  $300  was  declared  exempt  if  the  total 
income  from  all  sources  did  not  exceed  $300. 

In  1908  the  exemption  of  $1,000  was. extended  to  all  cities  and  towns; 
it  is  now  proposed  to  increase  this  exemption  from  $1,000  to  $1,200  in  cities 
and  towns  and  from  $700  to  $900  in  other  municipalities  in  the  case  of  a 
householder  or  the  head  of  a  family. 

The  minimum  business  assessment  is  another  point  worthy  of  notice. 
Under  the  Act  as  passed  it  was  provided  that  if  a  person  was  liable  for  busi- 
ness assessment  on  a  less  sum  than  $250.00  his  business  assessment  should 
notwithstanding  be  $250.00. 

In  1906  an  amendment  was  made  by  which  if  a  person  is  liable  for  less 
than  $250.00  he  is  only  to  be  assessed  for  $100.00. 

As  examples  of  increases  in  assessment  the  change  made  in  1907  as  to 
the  assessment  of  oil  and  gas  wells  might  be  cited.  It  was  provided  that  the 
minimum  assessment  of  each  oil  or  gas  well  operated  at  any  time  during  the 
year  was  to  be  $20.  It  was  also  provided  that  where  petroleum  mineral 
rights  are  reserved  in  any  deed  of  land  such  mineral  rights  should  be  assessed 
at  their  actual  value.  The  property  of  companies  transmitting  oil  or  gas  by 
pipe  line  are  now  to  be  assessed  as  a  going  concern ;  the  part  in  each  munici- 
pality being  assessed  at  its  value  as  an  integral  pjirt  of  the  whole.  This  forms 
an  important  change  in  the  law  because  before  the  amendment  the  property 
of  such  companies  could  only  be  assessed  as  scrap. 

In  conclusion  the  Committee  recommend  that  Amendments  be  made  to  the 
Assessment  Act  for  the  following  purposes  :— 

1.  That  it  be  made  clear  that  dividends  on  shares  in  banks,  trust  or 
loan  companies,  insurance,  railway,  telegraph  or  telephone  companies  or 
any  companies  having  rights  or  powers  upon  public  highways  are  assess- 
able. 

2.  That  all  clubs  in  which  meals  or  spirituous  or  fermented  liquors 
are  sold  or  furnished  should  be  subject  to  business  assessment  whether 
or  not  they  are  carried  on  for  profit  or  gain  and  whether  or  not   any 
dividends   are   paid,   the   intention   being  that   all   such   clubs   should   be 
deemed  to  be  carrying  on  a  business  so  as  to  be  liable  to  business  assess- 
ment. 

3.  That   colleges   and   incorporated   seminaries   of  learning  which   are 
carried  on  solely  and  only  for  profit  and  gain  should  not  be  exempted  from 
assessment  as  at  present. 


Edw.  VII.  27TH  JANUARY.  21 


4.  That  the  exemption  on  income  from  personal  earnings  or  from  any 
pension,  gratuity,  or  retiring  allowance  in  respect  of  personal   services 
in  the  case  of  a  householder  or  head  of  a  family  who  occupies  with  his 
family   any  portion   of   a   dwelling  house  be   increased   from   $1,000   to 
$1,200  in  a  city  or  town,  and  from  $700  to  $900  in  other  municipalities. 

5.  That  an  express  company  should  be  liable  to  business  assessment 
whether  or  not  the  building  is  occupied  or  used  mainly  for  the  purpose 
of  the  express  business. 

6.  That  the  owner  of  a  flour  mill  having  an  average  daily  output  of 
fifty  barrels  or  under  should  be  liable  to  a  business  assessment  of  35  per 
cent,  and  should  not  be  classed  as  a  manufacturer  so  as  to  be  liable  to 

60  per  cent. 

7.  That  a  publisher  of  a  newspaper  should  be  liable  to  a  business  assess- 
ment of  35  per  cent,  in  a  city  and  25  per  cent,  in  all  other  municipalities. 

8.  That   structures,   pipes,   poles,   wires  or   other  property   erected  or 
placed  upon  any  highway  forming  the  boundary  line  between  two  local 
municipalities  should  be  assessed  in  each  municipality  for  one  half  the 
amount  assessable  in  both  municipalities  taken  together. 

9.  That  the  county  judge  be  given  power  under  section  39  of  the  Act 
relating  to  the  assessment  of  farm  lands  in  towns  and  villages  to  settle 
the  extent  of  the  exemption  of  such  lands  where  the  municipal  council 
has  refused  or  neglected  to  pass  a  by-law  as  required  by  that  section. 

10.  That  section  40  of  the  Act  providing  for  the  assessment  of  vacant 
grounds  used  for  a  farm,  garden  or  nursery  in  cities,  towns  or  villages 
should  be  repealed  as  its  provisions  are  partly  covered  by  section  39,  and  for 
all  other  purposes  not  covered  by  section  39  such  ground  should  be  assessed 
as  other  lands  in  the  municipality. 

11.  That  power  should  be  given  to  the  Court  of  Revision  and  the  county 
judge  or  the  Railway  and  Municipal  Board  to  determine  not  only  the 
amount  of  the  assessment  but  also  as  to  whether  any  person  has  been 
legally  assessed  or  exempt  from  assessment  under  the  Act. 

12.  That  the  Court  of  Revision  should  have  power  to  remit  a  portion 
of  the  business  tax  where  the  person  assessed  has  not  carried  on  business 
for  the  whole  year. 

13.  That  local  municipalities  be  required  to  pay  over  to  the  county 
treasurer  on  the  20th  day  of  December  all  moneys  required  to  be  levied 
for  county  purposes. 


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14.  That  where  a  fine  is  imposed  for  a  contravention  of  any  provision 
of  the  Act  it  should  be  recoverable  under  "  The  Summary  Convictions  Act  " 
and  not  in  any  Court  of  competent  jurisdiction  as  the  Act  now  provides, 

15.  That  section  168  providing  for  the  registration  of  a  tax  deed  should 
be  repealed  is  it  is  to  the  same  effect  as  section  90  of  "  The  Registry  Act." 

16.  That  sections   169   and  170  dealing  with  the  registration  of  tax 
deeds  prior  to  1866  should  be  left  unconsolidated  and  unrepealed  as  they 
are  of  no  further  service. 

17.  That  subsection  1  of  section  3  of  the  old  "  Manhood  Suffrage  Regis- 
tration Act/7  providing  that  no  assessor  or  assessment  commissioner  for  a 
city  or  town  to  which  that  Act  applied  should  enter  on  the  Roll  the  name 
of  any  person  not  liable  to  assessment  for  taxes,  should  form  part  of  the 
Assessment  Act. 

18.  That  section  3  of  "  The  Statute  Labour  Act  "  should  be  amended  to 
exempt  from  statute  labour  an  island  in  a  river  as  well  as  an  island  in 
a  lake  if  no  statute  labour  is  done  on  the  island. 

19.  That  section  76   providing  for  appeals  where  large   amounts  are 
involved  should  be  repealed  and  a  new  section  substituted,  as  under  sec- 
tion 51  of  the  "  Railway  and  Municipal  Board  Act,  1906,"  the  appeal  is 
now  to  the  Ontario  Railway  and  Municipal  Board. 

The  Committee  have  prepared  a  Bill  to  carry  into  effect  its  recom- 
mendations. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time:— 

Bill  (No.  137),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Wills."     Mr.  Foy. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  138),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Assurance  of  Estates 
Tail."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  139),  intituled  "An  Act  for  Quieting  Titles  to  Real  Estate." 
Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  27TH  JANUARY.  23 


Bill   (No.   147),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Contracts  in  relation  to 
Goods  in  the  Possession  of  Agents  and  Others."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  148),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Commissioners  of  Police 
appointed  by  the  Government  of  Canada."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  102),  intituled  "An  Act  to  establish  Forest  Reserves."     Mr. 
Cochrane. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.   112),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Bureau  of  Labour." 
Mr.  Reaume. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  158)  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  <  The  Public  Works  ol  On- 
tario.' '      Mr.  Reaume. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  101),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Riots  near  Public  Works." 
Mr.  Reaume. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  146),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Liens  of  Mechanics,  Wage- 
earners  and  Others."     Mr.  Reaume. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  157),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Clergy  Reserves  and 
the  Upper  Canada  Grammar  School  Lands."     Mr.  Matheson. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  108), 
Respecting  the  Lieutenant-Governor  and  His  Deputies,  and  after  some  time 
spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville) 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any 
amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


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The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  110), 
Respecting  the  Supreme  Court  of  Canada  and  the  Exchequer  Court  of  Canada, 
and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr. 
Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report 
the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  113), 
Respecting  Disputes  concerning  Boundary  Lines,  and  after  some  time  spent 
therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  re- 
ported, That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any 
amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 
I 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  114)^ 
To  authorize  Police  Constables  to  take  Bail,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 
f 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  117), 
Respecting  the  Legal  Meaning  of  Expressions  relative  to  Time,  and  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Gren- 
ville) reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without 
any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  120), 
To  provide  for  the  Payment  of  Witnesses  of  the  Crown,  and  after  some  time 
spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville) 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any 
amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  121), 
Respecting  Powers  of  Attorney,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Commit- 
tee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  27TH  JANUARY.  25 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  122), 
Adopting  the  Law  of  England  in  Certain  Matters,  and  after  some  time  spent 
therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville),  re- 
ported, That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any 
amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  123), 
Respecting  the  Rights  of  Aliens  in  Relation  to  Real  Property,  and  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Gren- 
ville) reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without 
any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  127), 
Respecting  Short  Forms  of  Mortgages,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the 
Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  128), 
Respecting  Short  Forms  of  Leases,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the 
Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  132), 
Respecting  Estreats,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed 
the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had 
directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  136), 

To  restrain  the  Accumulation  of  the  Profits  or  Produce  of  Real  or  Personal 

Estate,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and 

Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed -him  to 

.  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  103), 
Respecting  the  Territorial  Division  of  Ontario  for  Municipal  and  Judicial 
Purposes,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair; 


26  27xH  JANUARY.  1910 


and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him 
to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  104), 
Respecting  Police  Magistrates,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  109), 
Respecting  Appeals  to  His  Majesty  in  His  Privy  Council,  and  after  some  time 
spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville) 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any 
amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  115), 
Respecting  the  Expenses  of  the  Administration  of  Justice,  and  after  some  time 
spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville) 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any 
amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  129V 
Respecting  Short  Forms  of  Mortgages,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein  Mi. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair,  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville) reported,  That  the 
Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  i'34), 
Respecting  Mortgage  of  Real  Estate,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  118), 
Respecting  Justices  of  the  Peace,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the 
Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


Edw.  Vll.  27TH  JANUARY.  27 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  131), 
Respecting  Vendors  and  Purchasers  and  to  Simplify  Titles,  and  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Gren- 
ville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without 
any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


Mr.  Hanna  presented  to  the  House  by  command  of  His  Honour  the  Lieu- 
tenant-Governor : — 

Copies  of  Regulations  and  Orders  in  Council  made  pursuant  to  the  pro- 
visions of  6  Edward  VII.,  Cap.  52,  Section  7, — Education  Department — since 
the  last  Session  of  the  Legislature.  (Sessional  Papers,  No.  56.) 

Also — The  Public  Accounts  of  the  Province  of  Ontario  for  the  Ten  Months 
ended  31st  October,  1909.  (Sessional  Papers,  No.  1.) 

Also — Statement  of  the  Auditor  made  pursuant  to  the  provisions  of  Sec- 
tion 13,  Sub-section  2,  of  the  Audit  Act  as  amended  by  Section  6,  Chapter  10, 
9  Edward  VII.  (Sessional  Papers,  No.  57.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Temiskaming  and  Northern  Ontario  Railway  Com- 
mission for  the  year  ended  October  31st,  1909  (Ten  months).  (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  47.) 

Also — Report  of  the  University  of  Toronto  Board  of  Governors,  for  the 
year  ending  30th  June,  1909.  (Sessional  Papers,  No.  17.) 

Also — Return  to  an  Order  of  the  House  of  the  Thirtieth  day  of  March, 
1009,  for  a  Return  shewing,  during  the  past  twelve  months  all  permits  to  effect 
insurance  in  foreign  unregistered  Corporations,  Insurers  or  Underwriters  issued 
by  the  Insurance  "Registrar,  under  Section  S6a,  of  the  Ontario  Insurance  Act 
as  amended  by  2  Edward  VII.,  Cap.  12,  and  4  Edward  VII.,  Cap.  15,  and 
of  all  letters  and  applications  in  respect  of  which  such  permits  were  issued. 
(Sessional  Papers,  No.  58.) 

On  motion  of  Mr.  Matheson,  seconded  by  Mr.  Pyne, 

Ordered,  That  the  Public  Accounts  of  the  Province  for  the  ten  months 
ending  31st  October,  1909,  be  referred  to  the  Standing  Committee  on  Public 
Accounts. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  4.45  P.M. 


28TH  JANUARY.  1910 

Friday,  28th  January,  1910. 
PRAYEKS.  3  O'CLOCK  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up   and  laid  upon  the 
Table  :— 

By  Mr.  Preston  (Lanark),  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Ram- 
say. 

By  Mr.  Wilson,  the  Petition  of  Ingersoll    Olmsted  and  others   of  Ham- 
ton. 

By  Mr.  Jessop,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  St.  Catharines. 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received : — 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Barrie,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify 
and  confirm  a  certain  By-law  and  agreement  relating  to  the  Barrie  Tanning 
Company,  Limited. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Barrie,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify 
and  confirm  certain  agreements  and  By-law  No.  662,  based  thereon,  re  exemp- 
tion from  taxation  of  the  Canada  Producer  and  Gas  Company. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Berlin,  praying  that  an  Act  rnay  pass  to  in- 
corporate the  Town  as  a  City. 

Of  the  Bruce  Mines  and  Algoma  Railway  Company,  praying  that  an 
Act  may  pass  to  extend  the  time  for  construction  and  completion  of  the  road 
and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Campbellford,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
to  ratify  and  confirm  By-law  No.  502,  fixing  the  assessment  of  the  Trent 
Valley  Woolen  Manufacturing  Company,  Limited. 

Of  the  Union  Trust  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  authoriz- 
ing the  Company  as  Administrators  of  the  Estate  of  Blanche  Eleanor  Leslie, 
deceased,  to  lease  certain  lands  for  term  of  twenty-one  years. 

Of  Charles  M.  Garvey  and  others  of  Toronto  praying  that  an  Act  rnay 
pass  to  incorporate  the  Monarch  Railway  Company. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Napanee,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
ratify  and  confirm  a  certain  By-law  authorizing  the  Corporation  to  enter 
into  an  Agreement  with  the  Napanee  Water  Works  Company. 


Edw.  VII.  28TH  JANUARY.  29 


Of  the  Town  Council  of  Niagara ;  also,  of  Henry  Winnett  of  Toronto, 
praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify  and  donfirm  a  certain  By-law  fixing 
the  Assessment  upon  property  of  Henry  Winnett. 

Of  J.  R.  Booth  and  others  of  Ottawa,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
incorporate  the  Nickel  Range  Railway  Company. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Oshawa,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  declar- 
ing that  the  Buildings  of  the  Oshawa  Y.  M.  C.  A.  and  the  land  whereon 
erected,  he  exempt  from  taxation  except  for  local  improvements. 

Of  the  Ottawa  Young  Men's  Christian  Association,  praying  that  an  Act 
may  pass  amending  their  Act  of  incorporation,  by  extension  of  powers  to  hold 
real  estate. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Penetanguishene,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
empowering  the  Corporation,  to  raise  by  sale  of  Debentures  the  sum  of  $24,- 
220.00  to  pay  off  existing  floating  debt  and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  People's  Railway  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  em- 
powering the  Company  to  extend  their  line. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Peterborough,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
to  ratify  and  confirm  certain  By-laws;  to  amend  Act  respecting  and  for  other 
purposes. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  St.  Catharines,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
ratify  and  confirm  By-law  No.  2106  and  a  certain  Agreement  between  the 
Corporation  and  the  Canadian  Crocker  Wheeler  Company  Limited. 

Of  the  St.  Thomas  Cemetery  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
to  authorize  and  empower  the  Company  to  purchase  and  acquire  lands  for 
Cemetery  use  and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Municipality  of  Shuniah,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  vali- 
date and  confirm  all  Tax  Sales  and  tax  sale  proceedings ;  to  amend  Act  incor- 
porating and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Thornbury,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
ratify  and  confirm  By-law  No.  9,  1909,  and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Trustees  of  the  Toronto  General  Burying  Grounds,  praying  that 
an  Act  may  pass  authorizing  them  to  sell  and  convey  any  lands  owned  by 
them  and  not  required  for  burial  purposes;  to  authorize  the  investment  of 
funds  and  for  other  purposes. 


30  28TH  JANUARY.  1910 


Of  the  Toronto  General  Trusts  Company ;  Charles  Northcote  and  others, 
praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  declaring  that  Chapter  150  of  53  ^7ictoria  was 
intended  to  affect  the  rights  of  and  be  binding  upon  those  persons  who  would 
be  entitled  to  the  lands  in  the  Act  referred  to  if  Charles  Northcote  were  to 
die  intestate. 

Of  Donald  D.  Mann  and  others  of  Toronto,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  to  incorporate  the  Wahnapitae  Railway  Company. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Port  Hope,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
authorizing  the  Corporation  to  issue  Debentures  to  the  amount  of  $25,000 
towards  construction  and  repair  of  streets  and  roads. 

Of  Lester  McDonnell  Coulter  of  Toronto,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
authorizing  him  to  practice  as  a  Physician  and  Surgeon  in  Ontario. 

Of  the  Western  Central  Railway  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  authorizing  its  guarantee  of  the  securities  of  other  Companies;  the  issue 
of  its  bonds  over  acquired  railways  and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  Stanhope,  praying  for  certain  amendments 
to  the  Land  Location  Act. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Smith's  Falls;  also,  of  the  Township  Council 
of  Burgess;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Sunnidale;  also,  of  the  Town- 
ship Council  of  Verulam;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Bexley;  also,  of 
the  Township  Council  of  Stanhope;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Emily, 
severally  praying  for  certain  amendments  to  the  Assessment  Act. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time : — 

Bill  (No.  135),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  Limitation  of  Actions." 
Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Tuesday  next. 

Bill  (No.  141),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Assignments  and  Prefer- 
ences by  Insolvent  Persons."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Tuesday  next. 

Bill  (!N~o.  149),  intituled  "An  Act  to  establish  a  Provincial  Park  at  Ron- 
deau."    Mr.  Cochrane. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Tuesday  next. 


Edw.  VII.  28TH  JANUARY.  ;U 


Bill  (No.  60),  intituled  "An  Act  to  Amend  the  Municipal  Act."     Mr 
Nickle. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Tuesday  next. 


On  motion  of  Sir  James  Whitney,  seconded  by  Mr.  Foy,  it  was 

Resolved,  That  a  Special  Committee  of  Thirteen  Members  be  appointed  to 
prepare  and  report,  with  all  convenient  speed,  lists  of  Members  to  compose  the 
Select  Standing  Committees  ordered  by  this  House,  to  be  composed  as  follows: 
Messieurs  Foy,  Matheson,  Pyne,  Preston  (Lanark),  Mahaffy,  Thompson  (Sim- 
coe),  Hoyle,  Clark  (Bruce),  MacKay  (Grey),  Bowman,  Proudfoot,  Stock  and 
McCart. 

On  motion  of  Sir  James  Whitney,  seconded  by  Mr.  Foy,  it  was 

Resolved,  That  a  Select  Committee  of  Eleven  Members  be  appointed  to 
act  with  Mr.  Speaker  in  the  control  and  management  of  the  Library,  to  be 
composed  as  follows:  Sir  James  Whitney  and  Messieurs  Foy,  Matheson, 
Pyne,  Hendrie,  Hanna,  Lucas,  MacKay  (Grey),  Stock,  McDougal,  and  Kohler. 

On  motion  of  Sir  James  Whitney,  seconded  by  Mr.  Foy,  it  was 

Resolved,  That  a  select  Committee  be  appointed  to  direct  the  expenditure 
of  any  sum  set  apart  by  the  Estimates  for  Art  purposes,  to  be  composed  as  fol- 
lows: Mr.  Speaker,  Sir  James  Whitney,  and  Messieurs  Foy,  Matheson,  Hen- 
drie, McKay  (Oxford),  Elliott,  and  Reed  (Wentworth.) 

On  motion  of  Mr.  Matheson,  seconded  by  Mr.  Pyne,  it  was 

Resolved,  That  this  House  receives  with  much  satisfaction  the  intelligence 
of  the  munificent  donations  which  have  been  made  in  aid  of  the  reconstruction 
of  the  Legislative  Library  by  the  Governments  and  Governmental  Departments 
of  Canada,  the  several  Canadian  Provinces  and  the  United  States,  and  by  the 
ladies  and  gentlemen  whose  names  appear  in  the  Report  which  has  boon  laid 
before  the  House ;  and  this  the  House  hereby  extends  its  grateful  thanks  to  the 
donors.  That  this  House  acknowledges  with  gratitude  the  prompt  and  genorous 
action  of  the  Governors  of  the  University  of  Toronto  in  placing  the  house 
No.  4,  Queen's  Park  at  the  service  of  the  Government  for  the  temporary  use  of 
the  Library. 

On  motion  of  Mr.  Proudfoot,  seconded  by  Mr.  McCormick, 
Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a  Return : 

1.  Showing  the  number  of  licenses  granted  to  Fishermen  in  each  of  the 
following  Districts  in  the  years  1908  and  1909:  (a)  Lake  Superior.  (M  The 


32  28TH  JANUARY.  1910 

Northern  Channel  of  Lake  Huron,  (c)  Georgian  Bay.  (d)  Lake  Huron 
and  Lake  St.  Clair.  (e)  Lake  Erie  and  Grand  Eiver.  (f)  Bivers  St.  Clair, 
Thames  and  Detroit,  and  (g)  Lake  Ontario  and  Bay  of  Quinte. 

2.  The  kind  of  license  granted  to  each  Fisherman. 

3.  The  cost  of  licenses  to  each  Fisherman  of  each  of  the  above  Districts. 


Sir  James  Whitney  delivered  to  Mr.  Speaker  a  Message  from  the  Lieu- 
tenant-Governor, signed  by  himself ;  and  the  said  Message  was  read  by  Mr. 
Speaker,  and  is  as  follows: — 

J.  M.  GIBSON. 

The  Lieutenant-Governor  transmits  Estimates  of  certain  sums  required 
for  the  service  of  the  Province,  until  the  Estimates  for  the  year  1910  are 
finally  passed,  and  recommends  them  to  the  Legislative  Assembly. 

GOVERNMENT  HOUSE, 

Toronto,  January  27th,  1910. 

(Sessional  Papers,  No.  2.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Message  of  the  Lieutenant-Governor,  together  with 
the  Estimates  accompanying  same,  be  referred  to  the  Committee  of  Supply. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Matheson,  seconded  by  Mr.  Pyne, 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  To-day,  resolve  itself  into  the  Committee 
of  Supply. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  To-day,  resolve  itself  into  the  Committee 
of  Wavs  and  Means. 


The  House,  according  to  Order,  then  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee  of 
Supply. 


Edw.    VII.  28TH  JANUARY. 


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(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  hundred  and  seventy-eight 
thousand  dollars  ($478,000)  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses 
of  the  Civil  Government  and  for  other  purposes  (as  mentioned  in  the  state- 
ment accompanying  the  Message  of  the  Lieutenant-Governor  to  this  House). 
Such  expenditures  to  be  confined  to  the  ordinary  necessary  payments  for  the 
different  services  to  which  they  respectively  relate,  and  a  detailed  statement 
of  such  expenditure  to  be  laid  before  the  House  before  the  second  reading  of 
the  Appropriation  Act  and  the  details  of  the  said  several  services  to  be  in- 
cluded in  the  detailed  Estimates  to  be  brought  down  to  this  House,  as  though 
the  Resolution  had  not  passed. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported. 
That  the  Committee  had  come  to  a  resolution;  also,  that  the  Committee  had 
directed  him  to  ask  for  leave  to  sit  again. 

Ordered,  That  the  Keport  be  received  forthwith. 

Resolved,  That  the  Committee  have  leave  to  sit  again  on  Tuesday  next. 


Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville),  from  the  Committee  of  Supply,  reported  a 
Kesolution,  which  was  read  as  follows: — 

Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  hundred  and  seventy-eight 
thousand  dollars  ($478,000),  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses 
of  the  Civil  Government  and  for  other  purposes  (as  mentioned  in  the  state- 
ment accompanying  the  Message  of  the  Lieutenant-Governor  to  this  House). 
Such  expenditures  to  be  confined  to  the  ordinary  necessary  payments  for  the 
different  services  to  which  they  respectively  relate,  and  a  detailed  statement 
of  such  expenditures  to  be  laid  before  the  House,  before  the  second  reading  of 
the  Appropriation  Act  and  the  details  of  the  said  several  services  to  be  included 
in  the  detailed  Estimates,  to  be  brought  down  to  this  House,  as  though  the 
Resolution  had  not  been  passed. 

The  Resolution  having  been  read  the  second  time,  was  agreed  to. 


The  House,  according  to  Order,  then  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee  of 
Ways  and  Means. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That  there  be  granted  out  of  the  Consolidated  Revenue  Fund 
of  this  Province  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  hundred  and  seventy-eight  thousand 
dollars  ($478,000),  to  meet  the  supply  to  that  extent  granted  to  His  Majesty. 


34  28TH  JANUARY.  1910 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported, 
That  the  Committee  has  come  to  a  Resolution;  also,  that  the  Committee  had 
directed  him  to  ask  for  leave  to  sit  again. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  forthwith. 
Resolved,  That  the  Committee  have  leave  to  sit  again  on  Tuesday  next. 

Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  from  the  Committee  on  Ways  and  Means,  re- 
ported a  Resolution,  which  was  read  as  follows: — 

Resolved,  That  there  be  granted  out  of  the  Consolidated  Revenue  Fund  of 
this  Province  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  hundred  and  seventy-eight  thousand 
dollars  ($478,000),  to  meet  the  supply  to  that  extent  granted  to  His  Majesty. 

The  Resolution  having  been  read  the  second  time,  was  agreed  to. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time: — 

Bill  (No.  137),  Respecting  Wills. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 

Bill  (No.  138),  Respecting  the  Assurance  of  Estates  Tail. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next 

Bill  (No.  139),  For  Quieting  Titles  to  Real  Estate. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 

Bill  (No.  147),  Respecting  Contracts  in  relation  to  goods  in  the  posses- 
sion of  agents  and  others. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 

Bill   (No.  148),  Respecting  Commissioners  of  Police  appointed  by  the 
Government  of  Canada. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 

Bill  (No.  102),  To  establish  Forest  Reserves. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 

Bill  (No.  112),  Respecting  the  Bureau  of  Labour. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 


Edw.  VII.  28TH  JANUARY.  35 

Bill  (No.  158),  The  Public  Works  Act  of  Ontario. 

Eeferred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 

Bill  (No.  101),  Kespecting  Riots  near  Public  Works. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 

Bill  (No.  146),  Respecting  Liens  of  Mechanics,  Wage-earners  and  others. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 

Bill  (No.  157),  Respecting  the  Clergy  Reserves  and  the  Upper  Canada 
Grammar  School  Lands. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  Ill), 
Respecting  the  Judges  of  the  Supreme  Court  of  Judicature  for  Ontario,  and 
after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Fer- 
guson (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the 
Bill  without  any  amendment. 

.  Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Tuesday  nf-xt. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  125), 
To  provide  for  the  better  Government  of  that  part  of  Ontario  situated  in  the 
vicinity  of  the  Falls  of  Niagara,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Tuesday  next. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  126), 
Respecting  Petty  Trespasses,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Tuesday  next. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  133), 
To  amend  the  Mercantile  Law,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Tuesday  next. 


36  28TH  AND  3 IST  JANUARY.  1910 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  143), 
Respecting  Limited  Partnerships,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the 
Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  he  read  the  third  time  on  Tuesday  next. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Matheson,  seconded  hy  Mr.  Pyne,  it  was 

Resolved,  That  this  House  doth  ratify  a  certain  Agreement  and  Contract, 
hearing  date  on  the  Tenth  Day  of  June,  1009,  and  made  by  and  between 
William  Briggs,  D.D.,  of  Toronto,  as  Book  Steward  of  the  Methodist  Church, 
of  the  first  part,  and  Arthur  James  Matheson,  Provincial  Treasurer,  on  behalf 
of  His  Majesty  the  King,  of  the  second  part,  in  connection  with  the  Printing 
and  Binding  for  the  Legislative  Assembly  of  Ontario. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Matheson,  seconded  by  Mr.  Pyne,  it  was 

Resolved,  That  this  House  doth  ratify  a  certain  Agreement  and  Contract, 
bearing  date  on  the  Twenty-fourth  day  of  June,  1909,  and  made  by  and  between 
E.  Harcourt  Company,  Limited,  of  Toronto,  of  the  first  part,  and  Arthur 
James  Matheson,  Provincial  Treasurer,  on  behalf  of  His  Majesty  the  King,  of 
the  second  part,  in  connection  with  the  Binding,  etc.,  for  the  Legislative 
Assembly  of  Ontario. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  4  P.M. 


Monday,  31st  January,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up   and  laid  upon  the 
Table:- 

By  Mr.  ^sTeely,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  London, 

By  Mr.  Ross,  the  Petition  of  the  Dunnville,  Wellandport  and  Beamsville 
Electric  Railway. 

By  Mr.  Brower,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Councils  of  Soutbwold  and 
Yarmouth. 

By  Mr.  McCowan,  the  Petition  of  the  Village  Council  of  Richmond  Hill. 


Edw.  VII.  31sT  JANUARY.  37 


By  Mr.  Smellie,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  Fort  William. 

By  Mr.  Grigg,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Hallam ;  also,  the 
Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  the  United  Townships  of  Johnson,  Tarbutt 
and  Tarbutt  Additional;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Thes- 
salon;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Plummer  Additional. 

By  Mr.  Pearce,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Huntingdon ;  also, 
the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Rawdon;  also,  the  Petition  of  the 
Township  Council  of  Carlow ;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Village  Council  of  Ban- 
croft. 

By  Mr.  Norman,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Hillier;  also, 
the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Ameliasburg. 

The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received: — 

Of  Ingersoll  Olmsted  and  others  of  Hamilton,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  to  incorporate  the  Hamilton  School  of  Anatomy. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  St.  Catharines,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
ratify  and  Confirm  By-law  No.  2116  respecting  the  St.  Catharines  Woollen 
Mills. 

Of  the  Board  of  Trade  of  Kenora;  also,  of  the  Town  Council  of  Kee- 
watin ;  also,  of  the  Town  Council  of  St.  Mary's;  also,  of  the  Township  Council 
of  Ramsay,  severally  praying  for  certain  amendments  to  the  Assessment  Act, 
respecting  the  income  tax. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill  (~No.  152),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  Queen  Victoria  Niagara 
Falls  Park."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  105),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  Agricultural  Societies."  Mr. 
Duff. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill    (No.    106),   intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Horticultural  Societies." 
Mr.  Duff. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  124),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  right  of  Property  in 
Swarms  of  Bees."     Mr.  Duff. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  3.15  P.M. 


38  IST  FEBRUARY.  1910 

Tuesday,  1st  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

By  Sir  James  Whitney,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Vespra ; 
also,  the  Petition  of  the  Village  Council  of  Streetsville ;  also,  the  Petition  of 
the  Village  Council  of  Hepworth;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council 
of  Ops ;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Municipality  of  Emo ;  also,  the  Petition  of 
the  Municipality  of  Alberton;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of 
Prince;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Saugeen;  also,  the 
Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Thessalon. 

By  Mr.  Gamey,  the  Petition  of  William  B.  Russell  and  others  of  Toronto. 
By  Mr.  Machin,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Kenora. 

By  Mr.  Devitt,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Cartwright ;  also, 
the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Darlington. 

By  Mr.  Neely,  the  Petition  of  the  Monarch  Fire  Insurance  Company; 
also,  the  Petition  of  the  North  Midland  Railway  Company. 

By  Mr.  Caldeiy  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  East  Whitby; 
also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Pickering. 

By  Mr.  Pratt,  the  Petition  of  the  Village  Council  of  Port  Rowan;  also, 
the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  North  Walsingham. 

By  Mr.  Anderson,  the  Petition  of  the  County  Council  of  Essex;  also,  the 
Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Tilbury  West;  also,  the  Petition  of  the 
Township  Council  of  Colchester  South ;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council 
of  Essex;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Pelee;  also,  the  Peti- 
tion of  the  Township  Council  of  Gosfield  North. 

By  Mr.  Proudfoot,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Hullett. 
By  Mr.  McKeown,  the  Petition  of  the  County  Council  of  Dufferin. 
By  Mr.  Bradburn,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Harvey. 

By  Mr.  Reid  (Renfrew),  the  Petition  of  the  County  Council  of  Renfrew; 
also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  the  United  Townships  of  Wilber- 
force  and  North  Algoma. 

By  Mr.  Torrance,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  Stratford;  also, 
the  Petition  of  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Company  of  Canada. 


Edw.  V1L  IST  FEBRUARY.'  39 


Mr.  Matheson  from  the  Special  Committee  appointed  to  prepare  and 
report,  with  all  convenient  speed,  Lists  of  Members  to  compose  the  Select  Stand- 
ing Committees  ordered  by  this  House,  presented  the  following  Lists  as  their 
Report : — 


COMMITTEE  ON  PRIVILEGES  AND  ELECTIONS. 

Sir  James  Whitney,  Messieurs  Bowyer,  Bowman,  Brewster,  Clarke 
(Northumberland),  Devitt,  Duff,  Ferguson  (Grenville),  -Fripp,  Foy,  Fox, 
Gallagher,  Galna,  Hanna,  Jamieson,  Jessop,  Lackner,  Lennox,  Lucas,  Mac- 
diarmid,  MacKay  (Grey),  Mahaffy,  Mason,  Matheson,  McGarry,  Nickle,  Nor- 
man, Paul,  Preston  (Lanark),  Proudfoot,  Racine,  Shillington,  Thompson 
(Simcoe),  Truax,  Tudhope,  Whitesides — 36. 

The  Quorum  of  said  Committee  to  consist  of  Nine  Members. 


COMMITTEE  ON  RAILWAYS. 

Sir  James  Whitney,  Messieurs  Anderson,  Aubin,  Beck,  Bowman,  Carrick, 
Charters,  Clark  (Bruce),  Clarke  (Northumberland),  Cochrane,  Downey,  Doyle, 
Eilber,  Elliott.  Fisher,  Foy,  Fraser,  Fripp,  Gallagher,  Galna,  Gamey,  Godfrey, 
Grigs:.  Hanna,  Hearst,  Hendrie,  Hoyle,  Jamieson,  Jessop,  Lackner,  Lennox, 
Macdiarmid,  MacKay  (Grey),  Machin,  Mahaffy,  Mason,  Matheson,  Mayberry, 
McDonald,  McDougal,  McEwing,  MeGarry,  McNaught,  McPherson,  Neely, 
Nesbitt,  Nixon,  Norman,  Pearce,  Pratt,  Preston  (Durham),  Preston  (Lanark), 
Proudfoot,  Pyne,  Racine,  Reaume,  Reid  (Renfrew),  Ross,  Shaw,  Shillington, 
Smellie,  Studholme,  Thompson  (Peterborough),  Truax,  Tudhope,  Whitesides, 
Wilson— 67. 

The  Quorum  of  said  Committee  to  consist  of  Nine  Members. 


COMMITTEE  ON  PRIVATE  BILLS. 

Sir    James    Whitney,    Messieurs    Beck,    Bowman,    Bradburn,    Brewster, 
Grower,   Calder,   Carrick,   Carscallen,   Clark    (Bruce),    Clarke    (Northumber- 
land), Craig,  Dargavel,  Downey,  Duff,  Elliott,  Ferguson  (Grenville),  Fisher, 
''ox,  Foy,  Fraser,   Fripp,   Gallagher,   Gamey,   Godfrey,   Gooderham,  Hanna, 
[earst,  Hendrie,  Hoyle,  Innes,  Jamieson,  Jessop,  Kohler,  Lackner,  Lennox, 
/ucas,  MacKay  (Grey),  Mahaffy,  Matheson,  McCart,  McCowan,  McDougal, 
McGarry,  McKeown,   McNaught,   McPherson,   Nickle,   Pratt,   Preston    (Dur- 
ham),   Preston    (Lanark),    Proudfoot,    Racine,    Reed    (Wentworth),    Shaw, 
Smellie,  Sulman,  Thompson  (Simcoe),  Torrance,  Tudhope,  Whitesides — 61. 

The  Quorum  of  said  Committee  to  consist  of  Nine  Members. 


40  IST  FEBRUARY.  1910 


COMMITTEE  ON  STANDING  ORDERS. 

Sir  James  Whitney,  Messieurs  Anderson,  Aubin,  Bowyer,  Bradburn, 
Carrick,  Charters,  Devitt,  Donovan,  Doyle,  Ferguson  (Cardwell),  Fisher, 
Galna,  Godfrey,  Griggs,  Hoyle,  Innes,  Johnson,  Kohler,  Machin,  MacKay 

(Grey),  Mackay  (Oxford),  Mason,  Mayberry,  Morel,  Musgrove,  McCormick, 
McCowan,  McDonald,  McEwing,  Nesbitt,  Nixon,  Norman,  Paul,  Pharand, 
Preston  (Lanark),  Racine,  Reed  (Wentworth),  Reid  (Renfrew),  Richardson, 
Stock,  Studholme,  Thompson  (Peterborough),  Torrance,  Truax,  Whitesides 

—46. 

The  Quorum  of  said  Committee  to  consist  of  Seven  Members. 

i 

COMMITTEE  ON  PUBLIC  ACCOUNTS. 

Sir  James  Whitney,  Messieurs  Beck,  Bowman,  Clark  (Bruce),  Clarke 
(Northumberland),  Cochrane,  Craig,  Dargavel,  Doyle,  Eilber,  Elliott,  Fergu- 
son (Grenville),  Fox,  Fraser,  Fripp,  Gamey,  Hanna,  Hendrie,  Johnson,  Mac- 
Kay  (Grey),  Mahaffy,  Matheson,  Musgrove,  McCart,  McDougal,  McElroy, 
McEwing,  McGarry,  McKeown,  Nickle,  Pattinson,  Preston  (Lanark),  Preston 
(Rainy  River),  Proudfoot,  Racine,  Reaume,  Shillington,  Thompson  (Simcoe), 
'Tudhope— 39. 

The  Quorum  of  said  Committee  to  consist  of  Seven  Members. 

;  COMMITTEE  ON  MUNICIPAL  LAW. 

Sir  James  Whitney,  Messieurs  Aubin,  Beck,  Bowman,  Bowyer,  Bradburn, 
Brower,  Calder,  Carrick,  Carscallen,  Clark  (Bruce),  Craig,  Dargavel,  Devitt, 
Duff,  Eilber,  Elliott,  Ferguson  (Cardwell),  Ferguson  (Grenville),  Fisher,  Fox, 
Foy,  Fraser,  Fripp,  Godfrey,  Gooderham,  Hanna,  Hendrie,  Hoyle,  Jamieson, 
Johnson,  Kohler,  Lackner,  Lennox,  Macdiarmid,  Machin,  MacKay  (Grey), 
Mackay  (Oxford),  Mahaffy,  Matheson,  Mayberry,  Musgrove,  McCart, 
McCowan  McDonald,  McDougal,  McElroy,  McEwing,  McGarry,  McKeown, 
McNaught,  McPherson,  Neely,  Nickle,  Nixon,  Pattinson,  Pearce,  Preston 
(Durham),  Preston  (Rainy  River),  Pyne,  Racine,  Reed  (Wentworth),  Reid 
(Renfrew),  Shaw,  Stock,  Studholme,  Sulman,  Thompson  (Simcoe),  Truax, 
Tudhope,  Whitesides — 71. 

The  Quorum  of  said  Committee  to  consist  of  Nine  Members. 

COMMITTEE  ON  PRINTING. 

Messieurs  Anderson,  Bowyer,  Carscallen,  Charters,  Clarke  (Bruce), 
Downey,  Kohler,  Mason,  Matheson,  Musgrove,  McCart,  McCormick,  Preston 
(Lanark),  Richardson,  Ross,  Sulman,  Wilson — 17. 

The  Quorum  of  said  Committee  to  consist  of  Five  Members. 


Edw.  VII.  IST  FEBRUARY.  41 


COMMITTEE  ON  LEGAL  BILLS. 

Sir  James  Whitney,  Messieurs  Beck,  Brewster,  Downey,  Elliott,  Foy, 
Hanna,  Hearst,  Hendrie,  Lucas,  Mackay  (Grey),  Matheson,  McDougal, 
McKeown,  McPherson,  Proudfoot,  Pyne,  Reaume,  Thompson  (Simcoe) — 19. 

The  Quorum  of  said  Committee  to  consist  of  Five  Members. 

COMMITTEE  ON  AGRICULTURE  AND  COLONIZATION. 

Sir  James  Whitney,  Messieurs  Bowyer,  Brower,  Calder,  Carscallen, 
Cochrane,  Dargavel,  Devitt,  Donovan,  Doyle,  Duff,  Eilber,  Ferguson  (Card- 
well),  Fox,  Galna,  Gamey,  Grigg,  Jessop,  Kohler,  Macdiarmid,  Mahaffy, 
MacKay  (Grey),  Mackay  (Oxford),  Mayberry,  Morel,  McCart,  McCormick, 
McCowan,  McElroy,  McEwing,  Neely,  Nesbitt,  Norman,  Pattinson,  Paul, 
Pearce,  Pharand,  Preston  (Durham),  Preston  (Lanark),  Pratt,  Eeed  (Went- 
worth),  Eeid  (Renfrew),  Richardson,  Smellie,  Stock,  Thompson  (Peter- 
borough), Torrance,  Wilson — 48. 

The  Quorum  of  said  Committee  to  consist  of  Nine  Members. 

COMMITTEE  ON  FISH  AND  GAME. 

Messieurs   Aubin,   Bradburn,   Brower,   Bowyer,   Bowman,   Beck,    Clarke 

»(JNTorthumberland),  Dargavel,  Donovan,  Duff,  Eilber,  Ferguson  (Grenville), 
Galna,  Gooderham,  Hendrie,  Hoyle,  MacKay  (Grey),  Mahaffy,  Morel,  Mus- 
grove,  Pratt,  Preston  (Rainy  River),  Reaume,  Reed  (Wentworth),  Tudhope 
—25. 

The  Quorum  of  said  Committee  to  consist  of  Seven  Members. 
Resolved,  That  this  House  doth  concur  in  the  above  Report. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill  (No.  155),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  Master  and  Servant."     Mr. 
Reaume. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  156),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Councils  of  Conciliation 
and  of  Arbitration  for  settling  Industrial  Disputes."     Mr.  Reaume. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  react  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  61),  intituled  "The  Fair  Wages  and  Hours  of  Labour  Regula- 
tion Act,  1910."     Mr.  Studholme. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 


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Bill   (No.  62),  intituled  "An  Act  to  prevent  the  spread  of  Pulmonary 
and  other  forms  of  Tuberculosis."     Mr.  Downey. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 

Bill  (No.  63),  intituled  "  An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act.'7     Mr. 
Brower. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  102), 
To  establish  Forest  Reserves,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  112), 
Respecting  the  Bureau  of  Labour,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the 
Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  101), 
Eespecting  Riots  near  Public  Works,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  157), 
Respecting  the  Clergy  Reserves  and  the  Upper  Canada  Grammar  School  Lands, 
and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr. 
Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report 
the  Bill  without -any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  137), 
Respecting  Wills,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the 
Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had 
directed  him  to  report  the  BiH  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 
The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 


Edw.  VI 1.  IST  FEBRUARY.  43 


Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  138), 
Respecting  the  Assurance  of  Estates  Tail,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  139), 
For  quieting  Titles  to  Real  Estate,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  147), 
Respecting  Contracts  in  relation  to  Goods  in  the  possession  of  agents  and  others, 
and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr. 
Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to 
report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  .a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  148), 
Respecting  Commissioners  of  Police  appointed  by  the  Government  of  Canada, 
and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr. 
Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  re- 
port the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time : — 

Bill  (No.  135),  Respecting  the  Limitation  of  Actions. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.   141),  Respecting  Assignments  and  Preferences  by  Insolvent 
Persons. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  149),  To  establish  a  Provincial  Park  at  Rondeau. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


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Bill  (No.  152),  Respecting  the  Queen  Victoria  Niagara  Falls  Park. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  105),  Respecting  Agricultural  Societies. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  106),  Respecting  Horticultural  Societies. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  124),  Respecting  the  Right  of  Property  in  Swarms  of  Bees. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


Sir  James  Whitney  delivered  to  Mr.  Speaker  a  Message  from  the  Lieu- 
tenant-Governor,  signed  by  himself;  and  the  said  Message  was  read  by  Mr. 
Speaker,  and  is  as  follows: — 

J.  M.  GIBSON. 

The  Lieutenant-Governor  transmits  Supplementary  Estimates  of  certain 
sums  required  for  the  service  of  the  Province  for  the  year  1909-1910,  and 
recommends  them  to  the  Legislative  Assembly. 

GOVERNMENT  HOUSE, 

Toronto,  February  1st,  1910. 

| 

(Sessional  Papers,  No.  2.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Message  of  the  Lieutenant-Governor,  together  with 
the  Estimates  accompanying  same,  be  referred  to  the  Committee  of  Supply. 


Mr.  Hanna  presented  to  the  House,  by  Command  of  His  Honour  the 
Lieutenant-Governor : — 

Report  of  the  Ontario  Railway  and  Municipal  Board  for  the  year  1909. 
(Sessional  Papers,  No.  49.) 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  4  P.M. 


Idw.  VI L.  2ND  FEBRUARY.  45 

Wednesday,  2nd  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the 
Table:- 

By  Sir  James  Whitney,  the  Petition  of  the  Builders'  Labourers'  Union 
"No.  1,  of  Toronto. 

By  Mr.  Foy,  the  Petition  of  the  Builders'  Labourers'  Union  No.  1,  of 
Toronto. 

By  Mr.  Hendrie,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  Hamilton. 

By  Mr.  Carscallen,  the  Petition  of  W.  A.  McCullough  and  others  of 
Kichmond. 

By  Mr.  McGarry,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Kaglan;  also, 
the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Horton. 

By  Mr.  Charters,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Brampton. 
By  Mr.  Eoss,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Wainfleet. 

By  Mr.  Aubin,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  the  United 
Townships  of  Batter  and  Dunnett ;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council 
of  Martland;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Springer. 

By  Mr.  McElroy,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Goulburn. 
By  Mr.  McKeown,  the  Petition  of  the  County  Council  of  Dufferin. 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received:— 

Of  the  Dunnville,  Wellandport  and  Beamsville  Electric  Kailway,  praying 
that  an  Act  may  pass  enabling  the  Company  to  extend  the  line  from  Jordan 
Harbour  to  the  City  of  St.  Catharines. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Fort  William,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  em- 
powering the  City  to  acquire  by  purchase  or  otherwise  certain  lands  situate  in 
the  District  of  Thunder  Bay;  to  ratify  and  confirm  certain  By-laws  and  for 
other  purposes. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  London,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify  and 
confirm  certain  By-laws  relating  to  Water  Works  and  for  other  purposes. 


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Of  the  Townships  Council  of  South  wold  and  Yarmouth,  praying  that  an 
Act  may  pass  to  ratify  and  confirm  By-laws  Nos.  652  and  780  respectively, 
relating  to  the  maintenance  of  Kain's  Hill  Eoad. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  Ameliasburg;  also,  of  the  Township  Council 
of  Hillier;  also,  of  the  Village  Council  of  Bancroft;  also,  of  the  Township 
Council  of  Carlow ;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Rawdon ;  also,  of  the  Town- 
ship Council  of  Huntingdon;  also,  of  the  Village  Council  of  Richmond  Hill; 
also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Plummer  Additional  ;  also,  of  the  Townships 
of  Tarbutt  and  Tarbutt  Additional ;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Thessalon ; 
also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Hallam,  severally  praying  for  certain  amend- 
ments to  the  Assessment  Act,  respecting  the  taxation  of  Farm  Buildings. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill  (No.  144),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Agricultural  Associations." 
Mr.  Duff. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  145),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Mortgages  and  Sales  of 
Personal  Property."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read. the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill    (No.   153),  intituled  "An  Act  to  secure  payment  of  Wages  for 
labour  performed  in  the  Construction  of  Works."      Mr.  Reaume. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  154),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  Wages."    Mr.  Reaume. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill    (No.   64),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  High   Schools  Act." 
Mr.  Hearst. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Friday  next. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Matheson,  seconded  by  Mr.  Pyne. 

Ordered,  That  the  names  of  Messieurs  Anderson  and  Norman  be  added 
to  the  Standing  Committee  on  Fish  and  Game. 


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The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time: — 

Bill   (No.   155),  Respecting  Master  and  Servant. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  156),  Respecting  Councils  of  Conciliation  and  of  Arbitration 
for  settling  Industrial  Disputes. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  149), 
To  establish  a  Provincial  Park  at  Rondeau,  and,  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  105), 
Respecting  Agricultural  Societies,  and,  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  106), 
Respecting  Horticultural  Societies,  and,  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  124), 
Respecting  the  Right  of  Property  in  Swarms  of  Bees,  and,  after  some  time 
spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville) 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any 
amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  141), 
Respecting  Assignments  and  Preferences  by  Insolvent  Persons,  and,  after 


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some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson 
(Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill 
without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  152), 
Respecting  the  Queen  Victoria  Niagara  Falls  Park,  and,  after  some  time  spent 
therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville) 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without 
any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  130), 
Respecting  the  Surrogate  Courts,  and,  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


Mr.   Hanna  presented  to  the  House,  by  command  of  His  Honour  the 
Lieutenant-Governor : — 

Copies  of  Orders  in  Council  in  accordance  with  the  provisions  of  S.S.  2 
of  Section  84  of  the  Surrogate  Courts  Act,  and  S.S.  4  of  Section 
164  of  the  Land  Titles  Act.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  59.) 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  4  P.M. 


Thursday,  3rd  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up   and  laid   upon  the 
Table  :- 

By  Mr.  Macdiarmid,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  St.  Thomas. 
By  Mr.  Brewster,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  Brantford. 
By  Mr.  Tudhope,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Tay. 


Edw.  VII.  3RD  FEBRUARY.  49 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received: — 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Kenora,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  authoriz- 
ing the  Corporation  to  guarantee  the  Mortgage  Debentures  of  the  Tourist  Hotel 
Company,  Limited,  to  the  amount  of  $100,000,  and  to  ratify  and  confirm  cer- 
tain By-laws. 

Of  the  Monarch  Fire  Insurance  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
to  ratify  and  confirm  a  certain  By-law  relative  to  and  reducing  the  Capital 
Stock  of  the  Company. 

Of  the  North  Midland  Eailway  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
extending  the  time  for  commencement  and  completion  of  road. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Stratford ;  also,  of  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  of 
Canada,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  confirm  and  declare  valid  an  agree- 
ment between  the  Grand  Trunk  Eailway  of  Canada  and  the  Corporation,  extend- 
ing for  ten  years,  the  provisions  of  an  agreement  dated  27th  February,  1900. 

Of  William  B.  Eussel  and  others  of  Toronto,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  incorporating  the  Toronto,  Haliburton  and  Pembroke  Eailway  Company. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  Vespra;  also,  of  the  Village  Council  of 
Streetsville ;  also,  of  the  Village  Council  of  Hepworth;  also,  of  the  Township 
Council  of  Ops;  also,  of  the  Township  .Council  of  Emo;  also,  of  the  Township 
Council  of  Alberton;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Prince;  also,  of  the 
Township  Council  of  Saugeen ;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Thessalon ;  also, 
of  the  Township  Council  of  Darlington;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of 
Cartwright ;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Pickering ;  also,  of  the  Township 
Council  of  East  Whitby;  also,  of  the  Village  Council  of  Port  Eowan ;  also, 
of  the  Township  Council  of  Walsingham ;  also,  of  the  County  Council  of  Essex ; 
also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Tilbury  West ;  also,  of  the  Township  Council 
of  Colchester  South ;  also,  of  the  Town  Council  of  Essex ;  also,  of  the  Township 
Council  of  Pelee ;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Gosfield  North ;  also,  of  the 
Township  Council  of  Hullett;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Harvey;  also, 
of  the  County  Council  of  Dufferin ;  also,  of  the  County  Council  of  Eenfrew ; 
also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  the  United  Townships  of  Wilberforce  and 
North  Algoma,  severally  praying  for  certain  amendments  to  the  Assessment 
Act  respecting  the  Taxation  of  Farm  Buildings. 


Mr.  Hoyle,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  presented 
their  First  Eeport,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted : — 


50  3RD  FEBRUARY.  1910 


The  Committee  have  carefully  examined  the  following  Petitions,  and  find 
the  Notices  as  published  in  each  case  sufficient: 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Thornbury,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
ratify  and  confirm  By-Law  Number  9,  1909,  and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Campbellford,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
to  ratify  and  confirm  By-Law  Number  502  fixing  the  Assessment  of  the  Trent 
Valley  Woollen  Manufacturing  Company,  Limited. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Napanee,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify 
and  confirm  a  certain  By-Law  authorizing  the  Corporation  to  enter  into  an 
Agreement  with  the  Napanee  Water-Works  Company. 

Of  J.  R.  Booth  and  others  of  Ottawa,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
incorporate  the  Nickel  Range  Railway  Company. 

Of  Donald  D.  Mann  and  others  of  Toronto,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
to  incorporate  the  Wahnapitae  Railway  Company. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Oshawa,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  declaring 
that  the  buildings  of  The  Oshawa  Young  Men's  Christian  Association  and  the 
lands  whereon  erected  be  exempted  from  Taxation  except  for  local  improvements. 

Of  the  Trustees  of  The  Toronto  General  Burying  Grounds,  praying  that 
an  Act  may  pass  authorizing  them  to  sell  and  convey  any  lands  owned  by  them 
and  not  required  for  burial  purposes ;  to  authorize  the  investment  of  funds  and 
for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Western  Central  Railway  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
authorizing  its  guarantee  of  the  securities  of  other  Companies ;  the  issue  of  its 
bonds  over  required  railways  and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Union  Trust  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  authorizing 
the  Company  as  Administrators  of  the  Estate  of  Blanche  Eleanor  Leslie,  de- 
ceased, to  lease  certain  lands  for  the  term  of  twenty-one  years. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  Rule  No.  51  of  this  Honourable  House  be 
suspended  in  this,  that  the  time  for  presenting  Petitions  for  Private  Bills  to 
this  Honourable  House  be  extended  until  and  inclusive  of  Eriday,  the  llth 
day  of  February  instant. 


Ordered,  That  the  time  for  presenting  Petitions  for  Private  Bills,  be  ex- 
tended until  and  inclusive  of  Eriday  the  Eleventh  day  of  February  instant. 


Edw.  VII.  3RD  FEBRUARY.  51 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill   (No.  1),  intituled  "An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  9,  of  1909,  of 
the  Town  of  Thornbury.     Mr.  McKeown. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  2),  intituled  ."  An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  502  of  the  Town 
of  Campbellford."     Mr.  Nesbitt. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  3),  intituled  "  An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  818  of  the  Town 
of  Napanee."     Mr.  Carscallen. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  4),  intituled  "  An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Nickel  Range  Railway 
Company."     Mr.  Hearst. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 

Bill  (No.  11),  intituled  "  An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Wahnapitae  Railway 
Company."     Mr.  Hearst. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 

Bill    (No.  8),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Oshawa  Young  Men's 
Christian  Association."     Mr.  Calder. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (ISTo.  12),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Trustees  of  the  Toronto 
General  Burying  Grounds."     Mr.  McNaught. 

Referred  to  the  Commissioners  of  Estates  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  10),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  Western  Central  Railway 
Company."     Mr.  McNaught. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 

Bill  (No.  17),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  Estate  of  Blanche  Eleanor 
.eslie."     Mr.  Shaw. 

Referred  to  the  Commissioners  of  Estates  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  151),  intituled  "An  Act  to  establish  the  Algonquin  National 
Park  of  Ontario."     Mr.  Cochrane. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

• 


52  3RD  AND  4TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


Bill  (No.  159),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  Department  of  Agricul- 
ture."    Mr.  Duff. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  65),  intituled  "  An  Act  to  amend  the  Fish  and  Game  Act."     Mr. 
Hoyle. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  House  again  to  resolve  itself  into  the  Com- 
mittee of  Supply,  having  been  read. 

Mr.  Matheson  moved, 

That  Mr.  Speaker  do  now  leave  the  Chair,  and  that  the  House  do  again 
resolve  itself  into  the  Committee  of  Supply. 

And  a  Debate  having  ensued,  it  was,  on  motion  of  Mr.  McEwing, 
Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  adjourned  until  Tuesday  next. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  5.30  P.M. 


Friday,  4th  February,  1910. 
PEAYEES.  3  O'CLOCK  P.M* 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

By  Sir  James  Whitney,  the  Petition  of  the  Fort  William  Trade  and 
Labour  Council ;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Bridge  and  Structural  Iron  Workers 
Local  Union,  No.  4,  of  Toronto. 

By  Mr.  Reaume,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  Windsor. 

By  Mr.  Tudhope,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Tay ;  also,  the 
Petition  of  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  of  Canada;  also,  the  Petition  of  the 
Simcoe  Railway  and  Power  Company. 


Edw.  VII.  4TH  FEBRUARY.  53 

By  Mr.  Jessop,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  St.  Catharines. 
By  Mr.  Carrick,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  Port  Arthur. 
By  Mr.  Shillington,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Hudson. 

By  Mr.  Innes,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Townsend;  also, 
the  Petition  of  the  Village  Council  of  Waterford;  also,  the  Petition  of  the 
County  Council  of  Norfolk. 

By  Mr.  Mackay  (Oxford),  the  Petition  of  Young  Men's  Christian  Asso- 
ciation of  Woodstock. 

By  Mr.  Smellie,  the  Petition  of  the  Fort  William  Trades  and  Labour 
Council;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  O'Connor;  also,  the 
Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Paipoonge. 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received: — 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Hamilton,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  authoriz- 
ing the  Corporation  to  levy  the  same  rate  of  taxation  in  respect  to  annexed  por- 
tions of  the  City  as  is  levied  in  the  older  portions ;  to  pass  certain  By-laws  and 
for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Brampton,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
ratify  and  confirm  certain  By-laws. 

Of  W.  A.  McCullough  and  others  of  Richmond,  praying  for  certain 
amendments  to  the  Ditches  and  Watercourses  Act. 

Two  Petitions  of  the  Builders'  Labourers'  Union,  No.  1,  of  Toronto ;  also, 
of  the  Township  Council  of  Horton ;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Raglan ; 
also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Springer;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of 
Marti  and;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  the  United  Townships  of  Ratter 
and  Dnnnett;  also,  of  the  County  Council  of  Dufferin ;  also,  of  the  Township 
Council  of  Gonlburn;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Wainfleet,  severally 
praying  for  certain  amendments  to  the  Assessment  Act,  respecting  the  taxation 
of  Farm  Buildings. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time: — 

Bill  (No.  144),  Respecting  Agricultural  Associations. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 


54  4TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 

Bill  (No.  145),  Kespecting  Mortgages  and  Sales  of  Personal  Property. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 

Bill  (No.  153),  To  secure  payment  of  Wages  for  Labour  performed  in 
the  Construction  of  Works. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 

Bill  (No.  154),  Respecting  Wages. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 

Bill  (No.  151),  To  establish  the  Algonquin  National  Park  of  Ontario. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 

Bill  (No.  159),  Respecting  the  Department  of  Agriculture. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Tuesday  next. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  135), 
Respecting  the  Limitation  of  Actions,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Clark  (Bruce)  reported,  That  the 
Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Tuesday  next. 


Mr.   Hanna  presented  to  the  House  by  command  of  His  Honour  the 
Lieuten  ant-Governor : — 

Reports  of  the  Live  Stock  Associations  of  the  Province,   for  the  year 
1909.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  39.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Farmers'  Institutes  of  the  Province,  for  the  year 
1909.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  40.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Women's  Institutes  of  the  Province,  for  the  year 
1909.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  41.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Poultry  Institute  of  the  Province,  for  the  year  1909. 
(Sessional  Papers  No.  42.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Agricultural  Societies  of  the  Province,  for  the  year 
1909.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  43.) 


Edw.    VII.  4TH  AND   7TH   FEBRUARY.  55 


Also — The  Province  of  Ontario,  Situation  and  Size,  Climate,  Products, 
Resources,  Progress  and  Advantages.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  60.) 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  3.25  P.M. 


Monday,  7th  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the 
Table  :•- 

By  Mr.  MacKay  (Grey),  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Ops; 
also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Sunnidale;  also,  the  Petition 
of  the  Township  Council  of  Alberton ;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Village  Council 
of  Hepworth;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Saugeen;  also, 
the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Cardiff;  also,  the  Petition  of  the 
Township  Council  of  Vespra. 

By  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville),  the  Petition  of  the  Morrisburg  Electric 
Railway  Company. 

By  Mr.  McPherson,  the  Petition  of  the  Eort  Erie  Ferry  Railway  Com- 
pany. 

By  Mr.  Preston  (Rainy  River),  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council 
of  Flavelle;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Chappie;  also,  the 
Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Dilke ;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township 
Council  of  Emo ;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Eort  Frances ; 
also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Alberton ;  also,  the  Petition  of  the 
Township  Council  of  Morley. 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received: — 

Of  the  City  Council  of  St.  Thomas,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
repeal  Sections  2,  3  and  4  of  3  Edw.  VII.,  c.  Ill ;  to  abolish  the  Board  of  Street 
Railway  Commissioners  and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Brantford,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  enabling 
the  Corporation  to  effect  changes  in  the  mode  of  maintenance  of  the  John  H. 
Stratford  Hospital  and  to  ratify  and  confirm  By-laws  re  issue  of  Debentures. 


56  7TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


Of  the  Township  Council  of  Tay,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify 
and  confirm  By-law  No.  482,  and  a  certain  Agreement  providing  for  a  fixed 
taxation  and  assessment  on  properties  of  the  Canadian  Pacific  Railway  and 
Georgian  Bay  and  Seaboard  Railway. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Port  Arthur,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
abolish  the  Electric  Railway  and  Light  Commission;  to  ratify  and  confirm 
certain  By-laws  and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Simcoe  Railway  and  Power  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
to  ratify  and  confirm  certain  By-laws  permitting  the  use  of  certain  roads 
by  the  Company  and  to  extend  the  time  for  commencement  and  completion 
of  road. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  St.  Catharines,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
ratify  and  confirm  By-law  No.  2126  of  the  City  in  aid  of  the  Monarch  Knitting 
Company,  Limited. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Windsor,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  amend 
7  Edw.  VII. ,  Cap.  97,  Sec.  1,  extending  the  time  for  granting  Bonuses  from 
five  to  eight  years. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  Tay;  also,  of  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  of 
Canada,  severally  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  confirm  and  declare  valid 
a  certain  agreement  between  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  of  Canada  and  the 
Corporation,  fixing  total  amount  of  taxes  to  be  paid  by  the  Company  upon  its 
assessable  property. 

Of  the  Woodstock  Young  Men's  Christian  Association,  praying  that  an 
Act  may  pass  to  enable  the  holding  of  real  estate  and  to  exempt  property  from 
taxation  except  for  Local  Improvement. 

Two  Petitions  of  the  Fort  William  Trades  and  Labour  Council;  also,  of 
the  Bridge  and  Structural  Iron  Workers  Local  Union  of  Toronto;  also,  of  the 
Township  Council  of  O'Connor;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Paipoonge; 
also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Hudson;  also,  of  the  Village  Council  of 
Waterford;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Townsend;  also,  of  the  County 
Council  of  Norfolk,  severally  praying  for  certain  amendments  to  the  Assess- 
ment Act,  respecting  the  Taxation  of  Farm  Buildings. 


The  following  Bill  was  introduced  and  read  the  first  time : — 

Bill  (No.  150),  intituled  "  The  Woodman's  Lien  for  Wages  Act."     Mr. 
Cochrane. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  TTH  AND  STH  FEBRUARY.  57 


On  motion  of  Mr.  MacKay  (Grey),  seconded  by  Mr.  Mackay  (Oxford.) 

Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a  Return  shewing:  (1)  A 
copy  of  the  advertisement  calling  for  tenders  for  the  printing,  publishing  and 
supplying  of  "Ontario  Readers";  (2)  Copies  of  all  tenders  received; 
(3)  Copies  of  correspondence  between  the  Government  of  Ontario  or  any  official 
thereof  and  any  tenderer  or  tenderers ;  (4)  A  copy  of  the  contract  entered  into 
on  behalf  of  the  Government  for  the  printing,  publishing  and  supplying  of 
"  Ontario  Readers";  (5)  A  detailed  statement  of  the  cost  to  the  Government 
of  supplying  to  the  publisher  electro-plates  for  each  reader. 


Mr.  Hanna  presented  to  the  House  by  command  of  His  Honour  the 
Lieutenant-Governor  :— 

Copy  of  an  Order  in  Council  under  S.S.  2  of  S.  84  of  the  Surrogate 
Courts  Act,  authorizing  payment  of  surplus  surrogate  fees  to  His  Honour 
Judge  Wismer,  Junior  Judge  of  the  County  Court  of  the  County  of 
Simcoe.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  61.) 

Also — Return  to  an  Order  of  the  House  of  the  Twenty-eighth  day  of 
January,  1910,  for  a  Return:  1.  Shewing  the  number  of  licenses  granted  to 
Fishermen  in  each  of  the  following  Districts  in  the  years  1908  and  1909: 
(a)  Lake  Superior.  (&)  The  Northern  Channel  of  Lake  Huron.  (c) 
Georgian  Bay.  (d)  Lake  Huron  and  Lake  St.  Clair.  (e)  Lake  Erie  and 
Grand  River.  (/)  Rivers  St.  Clair,  Thames  and  Detroit,  and  (g)  Lake 
Ontario  and  Bay  of  Quinte.  2.  The  kind  of  license  granted  to  each  Fisher- 
man. 3.  The  cost  of  licenses  to  each  Fisherman  of  each  of  the  above  Districts. 
(Sessional  Papers  No.  62.) 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  3.25  P.M. 


Tuesday,  8th  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3   O'CLOCK,  P.M. 

Mr.  Speaker  informed  the  House, 

That  the  Clerk  had  received  from  the  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills,  their 
Reports  in  the  following  cases : — 


58  STH  FEBRUARY.  1910 

Bill  (No.  12),  Respecting  the  Trustees  of  the  Toronto  General  Burying 
Grounds. 

Bill  (No.  17),  Respecting  the  Estate  of  Blanche  Eleanor  Leslie. 

The  Reports  were  then  read  by  the  Clerk,  at  the  Table,  as  follows : — 
To  the  Honourable  the  Legislative  Assembly  of  the  Province  of  Ontario. 

The  undersigned,  two  of  the  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills,  having 
perused  and  considered  Bill  (No.  12),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the 
Trustees  of  the  Toronto  General  Burying  Grounds,"  and  .presuming  the 
allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  to  be  proved,  think  it  is  reasonable  that 
the  said  Bill  should  pass  into  law.  2.  The  provisions  thereof  are  proper  for 
carrying  its  purposes  into  effect.  3.  We  do  not  find  that  any  alterations, 
or  amendments,  are  necessary  in  the  same.  We  have  accordingly  approved  the 
said  Bill  and  signed  the  same. 

All  of  which  is  respectfully  submitted. 

GLENHOLME  FALCON  BRIDGE,  C.J.K.B. 
B.  M.  BRITTON,  J.K.B.D. 


To  the  Honourable  the  Legislative  Assembly  of  the  Province  of  Ontario. 

The  undersigned,  two  of  the  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills,  have  had 
under  consideration  Bill  (No.  17),  "An  Act  respecting  the  Estate  of  Blanche 
Eleanor  Leslie,"  and  the  Petition  therefor  and  have  the  honour  to  report  as 
follows : — 

The  undersigned  are  of  opinion  that  presuming  the  allegations  contained 
in  the  Preamble  to  be  proved  to  the  satisfaction  of  Your  Honourable  House, 
it  is  reasonable  that,  subject  to  the  amendments  in  the  enacting  part  thereof 
hereby  recommended,  such  Bill  do  pass  into  law. 

The  undersigned  are  of  opinion  that  for  the  better  carrying  into  effect  the 
purposes  of  the  Act,  the  enacting  part  thereof  should  be  amended  as  shewn  in 
the  copy  of  the  Bill  which  is  returned  herewith  with  the  signatures  of  the 
undersigned  appended  thereto. 

The  undersigned  are  of  opinion  that,  as  amended,  the  provisions  of  the 
Bill  seem  proper  for  carrying  its  purposes  into  effect. 

CHARLES  Moss,  C.J.O. 
JOHN    J.    MACLAREN,    J.A. 
Dated  at  Toronto,  this  8th  day  of  February,  1910. 


Edw.  VII.  STH  FEBRUARY.  59 


Ordered,  That  Bill  (No.  12),  Respecting  the  Trustees  of  the  Toronto 
General  Burying  Grounds,  be  referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills, 
with  instructions  to  consider  the  same  with  reference  to  the  suggestions  of  the 
Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills?  thereon. 

Ordered,  That  Bill  (No.  17),  Kespecting  the  Estate  of  Blanche  Eleanor 
Leslie,  be  referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills  with  instructions  to 
consider  the  same  with  reference  to  the  suggestions  of  the  Commissioners  of 
Estate  Bills  thereon. 


The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

By  Sir  James  Whitney,  the  Petition  of  the  Typographical  Union,  No.  91; 
also,  the  Petition  of  the  Bakers'  and  Confectioners'  Union,  all  of  Toronto. 

By  Mr.  Bowyer,  the  Petition  of  the  County  Council  of  Kent. 

By  Mr.  Fripp,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  Ottawa. 

By   Mr.  Pattinson,  the  Petition  of  the  County  Council  of  Waterloo. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  timer- 
Bill    (No.   66),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act."     Mr. 
Macdiarmid. 

Ordered,  That  the. Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 

Bill   (No.   67),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Railway  and 
Municipal  Board  Act."     Mr.  Macdiarmid. 

.  Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next 

Bill    (No.  68),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Division  Courts  Act." 
Mr.  Macdiarmid. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 

Bill    (No.    69),   intituled   "An  Act  to  regulate  the  purchase,   sale   and 
transfer  of  Stocks  of  Goods  in  bulk."    Mr.  Jessop. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 


60  STH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


Bill    (No.    70),    intituled    "  An    Act    to    amend    the    Municipal    Act." 
Mr.  Fripp. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 

Bill    (No.    71),    intituled-  "An    Act    to    amend    the    Municipal    Act." 
Mr.  Fripp. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 

Bill    (No.    72),    intituled    "An    Act    to    amend    the    Municipal    Act." 
Mr.  Fripp. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 

Bill    (No.    73),    intituled    "An    Act    to    amend    the    Municipal    Act." 
Mr.  Fripp. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 

Bill    (No.    74),    intituled    "An    Act    to    amend    the    Municipal    Act." 
Mr.  Fripp. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 

Bill    (No.    75),    intituled    "An    Act    to    amend    the    Municipal    Act." 
Mr.  Bradburn. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 

Bill    (No.    76),    intituled    "An    Act    to    amend    the    Municipal    Act." 
Mr.  Bradburn. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 

Bill    (No.    77),    intituled    "'An    Act    to    amend    the    Municipal    Act." 
Mr.  Macdiarmid. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 

Bill    (No.    78),    intituled    "An    Act    to    amend    the    Municipal    Act." 
Mr.  Macdiarmid. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Thursday  next. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  resuming  the  Adjourned  Debate  on  the  Motion, 
that  Mi*.  Speaker  do  leave  the  Chair,  and  that  the  House  do  again  resolve  itself 
into  the  Committee  of  Supply,  having  been  read, 


Edw.  VII.  STH  AND  9TH  FEBKUARY.  61 


The  Debate  was  resumed,  and  after  some  time,  it  was,  on  the  motion 
of  Mr.  McCormick, 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  further  adjourned  until  To-morrow. 


Mr.   Hanna  presented  to  the  House  by  Command  of  His  Honour  the 
Lieutenant-Governor : — 

Report  of  the  Inspector  of  Division  Courts  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional 
Papers  No.  5.) 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  5.40  P.M. 


Wednesday,  9th  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

By  Sir  James  Whitney,  the  Petition  of  the  Stereotypers7  and  Electro- 
typers'  Union,  of  Toronto. 

By  Mr.  Nickle,  the  Petition  of  the  Trade  and  Labour  Council,  of  Kings- 
ton. 

By  Mr.   Mayberry,  the  Petition  of  the    Township    Council    of    North 
Oxford. 

By  Mr.  Godfrey,  the  Petition  of  John  Smallman  and  others,  of  Toronto. 

By  Mr.  Shillington,  the  Petition  of  S.  Alfred    Jones    and    others,    of 
Haileybury. 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received : — 

Of  the  Fort  Erie  Ferry  Eailway  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
to  consolidate  and  amend  the  Acts  relating  to  the  Company ;  to  increase  capital 

stock,  and  for  other  purposes. 


62  OTH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


Of  the  Morrisburg  Electric  Railway  Company,  praying  that  an  Act 
may  pass  to  amend  their  Act  of  incorporation. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  Ops;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of 
Sunnidale;  also,  two  Petitions  of  the  Township  Council  of  Alberton;  also,  of 
the  Village  Council  of  Hepworth;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Saugeen; 
also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Cardiff;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of 
Vespra;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Flavelle;  also,  of  the  Township 
Council  of  Chappie;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Dilke;  also,  of  the 
Township  Council  of  Emo;  also,  of  the  Town  Council  of  Fort  Frances;  also, 
of  the  Township  Council  of  Morley,  severally  praying  for  certain  amendments 
to  the  Assessment  Act,  respecting  the  taxation  of  Farm  Buildings. 


Mr.  Hoyle,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  presented 
their  Second  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted: 

The  Committee  have  carefully  examined  the  following  Petitions  and 
find  the  Notices  as  published  in  each  case  sufficient  :— 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Stratford,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  con- 
firm and  declare  valid  an  Agreement  between  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Com- 
pany of  Canada  and  the  Corporation,  extending  for  ten  years  the  provisions 
of  an  Agreement  dated  27th  February,  1900. 

Of  the  St.  Thomas  Cemetery  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
to  authorize  and  empower  the  Company  to  purchase  and  acquire  lands  for 
cemetery  uses,  and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  Tay,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  con- 
firm and  declare  valid  a  certain  Agreement  between  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway 
Company  of  Canada  and  the  Corporation,  fixing  the  total  amount  of  taxes  to 
be  paid  by  the  Company  upon  its  assessable  property. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Barrie,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify 
and  confirm  certain  Agreements  and  By-law  Number  662,  based  thereon,  re 
exemption  from  taxation  of  the  Canada  Producer  and  Gas  Engine  Company, 
Limited. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  Tay,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify 
and  confirm  By-law  Number  482  and  a  certain  Agreement  providing  for  a 
fixed  taxation  and  assessment  of  properties  of  the  Canadian  Pacific  Railway 
and  Georgian  Bay  and  Seaboard  Railway. 


Edw.  VII.  9TH  FEBRUARY.  63 


Of  the  Township  Councils  of  Southwold  and  Yarmouth,  praying  that  an 
Act  may  pass  to  ratify  and  confirm  By-laws  Numbers  652  and  780  respectively, 
relating  to  the  maintenance  of  Kain's  Hill  Road. 


Of  the  Ottawa  Young  Men's  Christian  Association,  praying  that  an  Act 
may  pass  amending  their  Act  of  Incorporation,  by  extension  of  powers  to 
hold  real  estate. 

Of  the  People's  Railway  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  em- 
powering the  Company  to  extend  their  line. 

Of  the  Simcoe  Railway  and  Power  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  to  ratify  and  confirm  certain  By-laws  permitting  the  use  of  certain  roads 
by  the  Company  and  to  extend  the  time  for  the  commencement  and  comple- 
tion of  the  road. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Kenora,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  authoriz- 
ing the  Corporation  to  guarantee  the  Mortgage  Debentures  of  the  Tourist  Hotel 
Company,  Limited,  to  the  amount  of  $100,000,  and  to  ratify  and  confirm  a 
certain  By-law. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  St.  Catharines,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
ratify  and  confirm  By-law  Number  2106  and  a  certain  Agreement  between 
the  Corporation  and  the  Canadian  Crocker  Wheeler  Company,  Limited. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Berlin,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  incor- 
porate the  Town  as  a  City. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Peterborough,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
ratify  and  confirm  certain  By-laws;  to  amend  an  Act  respecting  the  City  and 
for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Bruce  Mines  and  Algoma  Railway  Company,  praying  that  an  Act 
may  pass  to  extend  the  time  for  construction  and  completion  of  the  road  and 
for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Penetanguishene,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
empowering  the  Corporation  to  raise  by  sale  of  Debentures  the  sum  of  $27,- 
500,  to  pay  off  existing  floating  debt  and  for  other  purposes. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  Rule  Number  51  of  this  Honourable 
House  be  further  suspended  in  this,  that  the  time  for  presenting  Petitions 
for  Private  Bills  be  further  extended,  until  and  inclusive  of  Friday,  the  18th 
day  of  February,  instant;  and  that  the  time  for  introducing  Private  Bills 
be  extended  until  and  inclusive  of  Monday  the  21st  day  of  February,  instant 


64  9TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


Mr.  Hoyle,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  presented 
their  Third  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted : 

The  Committee  have  carefully  examined  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council 
of  London,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify  and  confirm  certain  By-laws 
relating  to  waterworks,  sewers  and  local  improvements,  and  for  other  pur- 
poses, and  find  that  notice  of  the  proposed  application  to  this  Legislature  has 
been  published  for  a  period  of  five  weeks  in  the  "Ontario  Gazette,"  and  in 
two  newspapers  published  in  the  City  of  London,  and  that  a  Declaration  has 
been  fyled  shewing  that  the  Notice  will  appear  in  the  said  publications  until 
the  full  period  of  six  weeks,  required  by  the  Rules  of  this  Honourable  House, 
shall  have  elapsed. 

The  Committee  find  that  the  Petition  prays  "That  authority  should  be 
granted  to  the  Corporation  of  the  City  of  London,  by  By-law,  to  permit 
the  erection  and  maintenance  of  a  public  slaughter  house,  or  abattoir,  in  the 
said  City  of  London,  or  in  one  of  the  adjoining  townships" ;  the  notice  makes 
no  allusion  to  the  erection  of  the  proposed  abattoir  outside  of  the  City 
limits ; 

The  Committee  recommend  that  the  attention  of  the  Private  Bills 
Committee  be  directed  to  this  matter,  so  that  if  the  abattoir  be  erected  outside 
of  the  City  limits  the  consent  of  the  Council  of  the  Township  in  which  it  is 
to  be  erected  be  first  obtained. 


Mr.  Hoyle,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  presented 
their  Fourth  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  examined  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council 
of  Fort  William,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  acquire  by  purchase  or 
otherwise  certain  lands  situate  in  the  District  of  Thunder  Bay;  to  ratify  and 
confirm  certain  By-laws  and  for  other  purposes; 

The  Committee  find  that  Notice  of  the  proposed  application  to  this  Legis- 
lature has  appeared  for  a  sufficient  length  of  time  in  the  "  Ontario  Gazette  " 
and  in  the  "Daily  Times  Journal,"  a  newspaper  published  in  the  City  'of 
Fort  William ; 

The  Committee  also  find  that  the  sum  proposed  to  be  raised  by  the  issue 
of  Debentures  under  By-law  No.  733,  for  the  purpose  of  improving  Me  Vicar 
Street  Subway  and  erecting  a  City  Dock,  differs  in  the  Notice  as  published  in 
the  Gazette  from  that  in  the  Notice  as  published  in  the  local  paper,  and  also 
from  that  mentioned  in  the  Petition ; 


Edw.  VII.  9TH  FEBRUARY.  65 


The  Committee  also  find  that  in  Section  5  of  the  Notice,  as  published 
both  in  the  Gazette  and  in  the  local  paper,  and  which  refers  to  the  special 
tax,  or  rate,  to  be  levied  on  the  several  properties  fronting  or  abutting  upon 
any  street,  etc.,  along  which  water  mains  are  laid,  the  words  "or  four  mills  on 
the  dollar  of  the  assessed  value  in  each  year  of"  appear,  while  these  words  have 
been  expunged  from  the  Petition; 

The  Committee  recommend  that  the  attention  of  the  Private  Bills  Com- 
mittee be  directed  to  these  discrepancies. 


Ordered,  That  the  time  for  presenting  Petitions  for  Private  Bills,  be 
extended  until  and  inclusive  of  Friday,  the  Eighteenth  day  of  February, 
instant. 

Ordered,  That  the  time  for  introducing  Private  Bills,  be  extended  until 
and  inclusive  of  Monday,  the  Twenty-first  day  of  February,  instant. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time : — 

Bill    (No.   6),    intituled    "An  Act    respecting    the    Town    of    Barrie." 

Mr.  Thompson  (Simcoe.) 

Referred  to  the  Committee' on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  14),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  to  incorporate  the 
Ottawa  Young  Men's  Christian  Association."  Mr.  Fripp. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  5),  intituled  "An  Act  to  confirm,  an  Agreement  between  the 
Township  of  Tay  and  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Company  of  Canada."  Mr. 
Tudhope. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  7),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Penetanguishene." 
Mr.  Tudhope. 

Referred  to  the  Railway  and  Municipal  Board. 

Bill  (No.  15),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  St.  Thomas  Cemetery 
Company."  Mr.  Macdiarmid. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 


66  9TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


Bill  (No.  18),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  People's  Railway  Com- 
pany. Mr.  Ross. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 

Bill  (No.  9),  intituled  "An  Act  to  incorporate  the  City  of  Berlin."  Mr. 
Lackner. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  32),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Township  of  Tay."  Mr. 
Tudhope. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

» 

Bill  (No.  13),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Bruce 
Mines  and  Algoma  Railway  Company."  Mr.  Grigg. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 

Bill  (No.  31),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  London."  Mr. 
Neely. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  21),  intituled  "An  Act  to  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the 
City  of  Stratford  and  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Company  of  Canada."  Mr. 
Torrance. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  19),  intituled  "An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  2106  of  the  City 
of  St.  Catharines."  Mr.  Jessop. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  33),  intituled  "An  Act  to  confirm  certain  By-laws  and  an  Agree- 
ment between  the  Townships  of  Southwold  and  Yarmouth."  Mr.  Brower. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  22),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  Peterborough." 
Mr.  Bradburn. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  79),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act."  Mr. 
Thompson  (Simcoe). 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Friday  next. 


Edw.  VII.  9TH  FEBRUARY.  67 


Bill  (No.  80),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  Statute 
Labour."     Mr.  Mahaffy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Friday  next. 

Bill  (No.  81),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act."     Mr. 
Hoyle. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Friday  next. 

Bill  (No.  82),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Game  and  Fish- 
eries Act."     Mr.  Pratt. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Friday  next. 

Bill   (No.  83),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act"     Mr. 
Nickle. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Friday  next. 


The  following  Bill  was  read  the  second  time : — 
Bill  (No.  150),  The  Woodman's  Lien  for  Wages  Act. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  159), 
Respecting  the  Department  of  Agriculture,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amend- 
ment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  151), 
To  establish  the  Algonquin  National  Park  of  Ontario,  and  after  some  time 
spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville) 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain 
amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 
The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


68  9TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  154), 
Respecting  Wages,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed 
the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had 
directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  153), 
To  Secure  Payment  of  Wages  for  Labour  performed  in  the  construction  of 
Works,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and 
Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to 
report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  145), 
Respecting  Mortgages  and  Sales  of  Personal  Property,  and  after  some  time 
spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville) 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any 
amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  144.), 
Respecting  Agricultural  Associations,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  156), 
Respecting  Councils  of  Conciliation  and  of  Arbitration  for  settling  Industrial 
Disputes,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ; 
and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed 
him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  155), 
Respecting  Master  and  Servant,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  146), 
Respecting  Liens  of  Mechanics,  Wage-earners  and  others,  and  after  some  time 


Edw.    VII.  9TH  AND   10TH   FEBRUARY.  69 


spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville; 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any 
amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  3.45  P.M. 


Thursday,  10th  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

By  Mr.  Gamey,  the  Petition  of  James  Carter  and  others,  of  Kagamong. 

By  Mr.  Preston  (Lanark),  the  Petition  of  the  Mississippi  Eiver  Improve- 
ment Company. 

By  Mr.  Jamieson,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Durham. 
By  Mr.  Johnson,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Trenton. 

By  Mr.  Carrick,  the  Petition  of  the  Young  Men's  Christian  Association 
of  Port  Arthur. 

By  Mr.  Sulman,  two  Petitions  of  the  Village  Council  of  Tilbury;  also, 
the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  Chatham;  also,  the  Petition  of  Township 
Council  of  Tilbury  East. 

The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received:— 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Ottawa,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  authorizing 
the  issue  of  certain  debentures  for  fire  stations,  park  purposes,  etc. ;  to  amend 
certain  Acts  relating  to  the  Corporation,  and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  County  Council  of  Waterloo,  praying  for  certain  amendments 
to  the  High  Schools  Act,  respecting  the  appointment  of  Trustees  by  County 
Councils. 

Of  the  County  Council  of  Kent,  praying  for  certain  amendments  to  the 
Act  for  the  Protection  of  Sheep  and  to  impose  a  Tax  on  Dogs. 


70  10TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


Of  the  Typographical  Union  No.  91 ;  also,  of  the  Bakers' and  Confectioners' 
International  Union,  all  of  Toronto,  praying  for  certain  amendments  to  the 
Assessment  Act  respecting  the  Taxation  of  Farm  Buildings. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time : — 

Bill  (No.  43),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Kenora."     Mr. 
Machin. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  84),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Water  Works 
Act."     Mr.  Torrance. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  85),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Public  Schools  Act,  1909." 
Mr.  Proudfoot. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  86),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  for  the  protection  of 
Sheep  and  to  impose  a  tax  on  Dogs."     Mr.  Bowyer. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  87),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the    High  Schools  Act."  Mr. 
McKeown. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 
Pi1!    a\To.   88),  intituled  "The    Ontario    Telephone    Act,     1910."     Mr. 
Charters. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  89),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Liquor  License  Act."     Mr. 
Proudfoot. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  90),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Vaccination  and  Inoculation." 
Mr.  Innes. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  91),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  Solicitors." 
Mr.  Shillington. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 


Edw.    VII.  10TH    AND    llTH    FEBRUARY".  71 


Bill  (No.  92),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act."     Mr. 
Proudfoot. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  resuming  the  Adjourned  Debate  on  the  Motion, 
that  Mr.  Speaker  do  leave  the  Chair,  and  that  the  House  do  again  resolve  itself 
into  the  Committee  of  Supply,  having  been  read, 

The  Debate  was  resumed,  and  after  some  time,  it  was,  on  the  motion 
of  Mr.  McKeown, 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  further  adjourned  until  To-morrow. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Reaume,  seconded  by  Mr.  Lucas, 

Ordered,  That  the  name  of  Mr.  Nesbitt  be  added  to  the  Standing  Com- 
mittee on  Fish  and  Game. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  6  P.M. 


Friday,  llth  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK,  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

By  Sir  James  Whitney,  The  Petition  of  the  Twin  City  Trades  and  Labour 
Council  of  Berlin ;  also,  the  Petition  of  the  Amalgamated  Society  of  Carpenters 
and  Joiners,  Toronto. 

By  Mr.  Shaw,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  Toronto. 

Mr.  McCowan,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  York. 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received : — 

Of  John  Smallman  and  others,  of  Toronto,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
to  incorporate  the  Artesian  Water  Company,  Limited. 


72  HTH   FEBRUARY.  1910 

Of  S.  Alfred  Jones  and  others,  of  Haileybury,  praying  for  certain 
amendments  to  the  Act  respecting  Solicitors. 

Of  the  Toronto  Stereotypers  and  Electrotypers,  of  Toronto;  also,  of  the 
Trade  and  Labour  Council,  of  Kingston;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of 
North  Oxford,  severally  praying  for  certain  amendments  to  the  Assessment 
Act  respecting  Taxation  of  Farm  Buildings. 


The  following  Bill  was  introduced  and  read  the  first  time : — 

Bill  (No.  94),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act."     Mr. 
McElroy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Tuesday  next. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  139),  For  quiet- 
ing Titles  to  Real  Estate,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith  again 
referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the  same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee ;  and  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Gren- 
ville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  119), 
Respecting  Constables,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  re- 
sumed the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  150), 
The  Woodman's  Lien  for  Wages  Act,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  3.30  P.M. 


Edw.  VII.  14TH  FEBRUARY.  73 


Monday,  14th  February,  1910. 

PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK,  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the 
Table  :- 

By  Sir  James  Whitney,  the  Petition  of  the  United  Brotherhood  of 
Carpenters,  of  Toronto. 

By  Mr.  Macdiarmid,  the  Petition  of  Campbell  Black  and  others,  of 
Toronto. 

By  Mr.  Smellie,  the  Petition  of  the  Iron  Range  Railway  Company. 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received : — 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Durham,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify 
and  confirm  By-law  No.  568,  guaranteeing  the  Bonds  of  the  McGowan  Milling 
Company  to  the  extent  of  $15,000. 

Of  the  Mississippi  River  Improvement  Company,  praying  that  an  Act 
may  pass  authorizing  the  Company  to  collect  tolls  along  the  Mississippi  River 
and  for  other  purposes. 


Of  the  Town  Council  of  Trenton  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  authorizing 
the  Corporation  to  purchase,  and  if  necessary  expropriate,  the  property  of  the 
Trenton  Electric  and  Water  Company,  Limited,  and  to  issue  debentures. 

Of  the  Young  Men's  Christian  Association,  of  Port  Arthur,  praying  that 
an  Act  may  pass  incorporating  them;  confirming  conveyance  of  property  and 
exempting  same  from  taxation. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Toronto,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  authorize 
the  expenditure  of  certain  moneys;  to  ratify  and  confirm  certain  By-laws  and 
for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  York,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  amend 
the  Act,  9  Edw.  VII.,  C.  126,  relating  to  the  Township,  by  changing  certain 
words  in  the  second  line  of  Clause  1. 

Of  James  Carter  and  others,  of  Kagamong,  praying  for  certain  amend- 
ments to  the  Statute  Labour  Act. 

Two  Petitions  of  the  Village  Council  of  Tilbury ;  also,  of  the  City  Council 
of  Chatham;  also,  the  Township  Council  of  Tilbury  East,  severally  praying 
for  certain  amendments  to  the  Assessment  Act,  respecting  the  Taxation  of  Farm 
Buildings. 


74  MTH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill  (No.  34),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  Fort  William." 
Mr.  Smellie. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill    (No.    160),  intituled    "  An  Act  to  amend    the    Judicature    Act." 
Mr.  Toy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

f 

Bill  (No.  161),  intituled  "  An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Pro- 
perty of  Religious  Institutions."  Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  96),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Division  Courts  Act." 
Mr.  Anderson. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Wednesday  next. 

Bill    (No.     97),   initiuled   "  An    Act    to   amend    the    Municipal    Act." 
Mr.  Hearst. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Wednesday  next. 

Bill   (No.   98),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Public  Health  Act." 
Mr.  Hearst. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Wednesday  next. 


Mr.  Hanna  presented  to  the  House,  by  command  of  His  Honour  the  Lieu- 
tenant-Governor : — 

Report  of  the  Minister  of  Public  Works  of  the  Province,  for  the  year 
1909.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  12.) 

Also — Report  on  Highway  Improvement  in  the  Province,  for  the  year  1909. 
(Sessional  Papers  No.  14.) 


Edw.    VII.  14TH    AND    15TH    FEBRUARY.  75 


Also — Rules  and  Regulations  made  by  order  of  His  Honour  the  Lieutenant- 
Governor  in  Council,  for  the  carrying  into  effect  the  Succession  Duty  Act. 
(Sessional  Papers  No.  63.) 

Also — Statement  on  the  distribution  of  the  Revised  and  Sessional  Statutes, 
up  to  31st  December,  1909.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  64.) 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  3.15  P.M. 


Tuesday,  15th  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK  P.M. 

The  following  Petition?  wore  severally  brought  up   and  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

By  Mr.  Paul,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  the  United  Town- 
ships Denbigh,  Abinger  and  Ashby. 

By   Mr.    Anderson,    the   Petition   of   the    Township   Council    of   Gosfield 
North. 

By  Mr.   Machin,   the  Petition   of  Charles  W.   Chad  wick  and  others,  of 
Kenora. 


ton 


By.  Mr.  Devitt,  the  Petition  of  William  "Mount joy  and  others,  of  Darling- 
Bv  Mr.  Gri<r£.  the   Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Macrlonald. 


Mr.    Lucas   from   the   Standing   Committee  on   Private   Bills   presented 
their  First  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted: 

"The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bill  and  report 
the  same  without  amendment: — 

Bill  (No.  8),  Respecting  the  Oshnwa  Young  Men's  Christian  Association. 


76  15TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


The  Committee  have  also  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and 
report  the  same  with  certain  amendments: — 

Bill  (No.  3),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  818  of  the  Town  of  Napanee. 

Bill  (No.  14),  To  amend  the  Act  to  incorporate  the  Ottawa  Young  Men's 
Christian  Association. 

Bill  (No.  15),  Respecting  the  St.  Thomas  Cemetery  Company  and, 
Bill  (No.  17),  Respecting  the  Estate  of  Blanche  Eleanor  Leslie. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  the  fees,  less  the  actual  cost  of  printing, 
be  remitted  on  Bills  Numbers  8  and  14,  on  the  ground  that  they  are  Bills 
relating  to  an  Educational  or  Religious  Institution. 


Ordered,  That  the  fees,  less  the  actual  cost  of  printing,  be  remitted  on 
Bill  (No.  8),  Oshawa  Y.  M.  C.  A.,  and  on  Bill  (No.  14),  Ottawa  Y.  M.  C.  A. 


The  following  Bill  was  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill    (No.    162),   intituled   "  The   Statute  Law  Amendment   Act   1910." 
Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  resuming  the  Adjourned  Debate  on  the  Motion, 
that  Mr.  Speaker  do  leave  the  Chair,  and  that  the  House  do  again  resolve  itself 
into  the  Committee  of  Supply,  having  been  read, 

The  Debate  was  resumed,  and  after  some  time,  it  was,  on  the  motion  of 
Mr.  Bowman. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  further  adjourned  until  To-morrow. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  10.10  P.M. 


Edw.  VII.  16TH  FEBRUARY.  77' 

Wednesday,  16th  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'Clock  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the 
Table:- 

By  Mr.  Hendrie,  the  Petition  of  George  Le  Riche  and  others,  of  Hamil- 
ton. 

By  Mr.  Shillington,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Cobalt. 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received: 

Of  the  Iron  Range  Railway  Company,  praying  that  an  Aet  may  pass 
extending  the  time  for  commencement  and  Completion  of  the  road. 

Of  Campbell  Black  and  others  of  Toronto,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
to  incorporate  the  Osteopathic  College  of  Ontario. 

Of  the  United  Brotherhood  of  Carpenters;  also,  of  'J^e  Amalgamated 
Society  of  Carpenters  and  Joiners,  all  of  Toronto ;  also,  of  the  Twin  City 
Trades  and  Labour  Council  of  Berlin,  severally  praynig  for  certain  amendments: 
to  tho  Assessment  Act  respecting  the  Taxation  of  Farm  Buildings. 


Mr.  Hoyle,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  presented 
their  Fifth  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted: — 

The  Committee  have  carefully  examined  the  following  Petitions  and  find 
the  Notices  as  published,  in  each  case  sufficient : 

Of  the  Municipality  of  Shuniah,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  vali- 
date and  confirm  all  Tax  Sales  and  Tax  Sale  proceedings;  to  amend  Act  in- 
corporating and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Charles  M.  Garvey  and  others,  of  Toronto,  praying  that  an  Act 
may  pass  to  incorporate  the  Monarch  Railway  Company. 

Of  William  B.  Russel  and  others,  of  Toronto,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  incorporating  the  Toronto,  Haliburton  and  Pembroke  Railway  Company. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Port  Hope,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  author- 
izing the  corporation  to  issue  Debentures  to  the  amount  of  $25,000  towards 
construction  and  repair  of  streets  and  roads. 


78  16TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


Of  the  Dunnville,  Wellandport  and  Beamsville  Electric  Railway  Com- 
pany, praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  extend  their  line  from  Jordan  Harbour 
to  the  City  of  St.  Catharines. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Niagara,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify 
and  confirm  a  certain  By-law  fixing  the  Assessment  upon  the  property  of  Henry 
Winnett. 

Of  the  Toronto  General  Trusts  Corporation,  Charles  Northcote  and  others, 
praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  declaring  that  Chapter  150  of  53  Victoria  was 
intended  to  affect  the  rights  of  and  be  binding  upon  those  persons  who  would 
be  entitled  to  the  lands  in  the  Act  referred  to,  if  Charles  Northeote  were  to 
die  intestate. 

Of  The  North  Midland  Railway  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
extending  the  time  for  the  commencement  and  completion  of  the  road. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  St.  Thomas,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  re- 
peal sections  2  and  3  of  3  Edw.  VII.,  c.  3;  to  abolish  the  Board  of  Street 
Railway  Commissioners  and  for  other  purposes. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  Rule  No.  51  of  this  Honourable  House 
be  further  suspended  in  this,  that  the  time  for  presenting  Petitions  for  Private 
Bills  be  further  extended  until  and  inclusive  of  Wednesday,  the  23rd  day  of 
February,  instant,  and  that  the  time  for  introducing  Private  Bills  to  this 
Honourable  House  be  further  extended  until  and  inclusive  of  Thursday,  the 
24th  day  of  February,  instant. 


Mr.  Hoyle,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  presented 
their  Sixth  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted: — 

The  Committee  have  carefully  examined  the  petition  of  the  Fort  Erie 
Ferry  Railway  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  consolidate  and 
amend  the  Acts  relating  to  the  Company;  to  increase  their  capital  stock,  and 
for  other  purposes,  and  find  that  notice  of  the  proposed  application  to  this  Legis- 
lature has  been  published  a  sufficient  length  of  time  in  the  "Ontario  Gazette" 
and  in  the  "Fort  Erie  Times,"  this  latter  newspaper  being  published  in  the 
County  of  Welland  which  is  the  only  County  affected  by  the  proposed  legisla- 
tion. 

The  Committee  also  find  that  the  petition  amongst  other  matters  prays  "to 
extend  the  time  for  the  commencement  and  completion  of  certain  branch  lines 
and  extensions  of  the  said  undertaking"  of  which  no  notice  has  been  given  in 
either  the  "Ontario  Gazette"  or  the  local  paper. 


Edw.  VI 1.  16TH  FEBRUARY.  79 


The  Committee  recommend  that  the  attention  of  the  Railway  Committee 
be  directed  to  this  discrepancy,  so  that  when  the  Bill  founded  on  the  petition 
comes  before  that  Committee  such  portions  thereof  as  relate  to  the  extension 
of  time  for  the  commencement  -and  completion  of  said  branch  lines  and  exten- 
sions of  the  said  railway,  be  eliminated  therefrom. 


Mr.  Lucas,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Private  Bills,   presented 
their  Second  Eeport,  which  was  read    as  follows  and  adopted: 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and  report 
the  same  without  amendment: — 

Bill  (No.  1),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  9,  of  1909,  of  the  Town  of  Thorn- 
bury. 

Bill  (No.  12),  Respecting  the  Trustees  of  the  Toronto  General  Burying 
Grounds. 

Bill   (No.  33),  To  confirm  certain  By-laws  and  Agreements  between  the 
Townships  of  South  wold  and  Yarmouth. 

The  Committee  have  also  carefully  considered  the  following  Bill  and  re- 
port the  same  with  certain  amendments: — 

Bill  (No.  31),  Respecting  the  City  of  London. 


Ordered,  That  the  time  for  presenting  Petitions  for  Private  Bills  be 
further  extended  until  and  inclusive  of  Wednesday,  the  Twenty-third  day  of 
February,  instant. 

Ordered,  That  the  time  for  introducing  Private  Bills  be  further  extended 
until  and  inclusive  of  Thursday,  the  Twenty-fourth  day  of  February,  instant. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill  (No.  20),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Municipality  of  Shuniah." 
Mr.  Carrick. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 


80  16TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


.   Bill  (No.  3,5),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  North  Midland  Railway 
Company."     Mr.  Neely. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 

i 

Bill   (No.  37),  intituled  "An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Toronto,  Halibur- 

ton  and  Pembroke  Railway  Company."     Mr.  Gamey. 
Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 

Bill  (No.  40),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  St.  Thomas  Street  Rail- 
way."    Mr.  Macdiarmid. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  30),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Dunnville,  Wellandport 
and  Beamsville  Electric  Railway."     Mr.  Ross. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 

Bill  (No.  25),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Port  Hope/'  Mr. 
Preston  (Durham.) 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  23),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  Estate  of  Charles  North- 
cote."     Mr.  McNaught. 

Referred  to  the  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  24),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Niagara  and 
Henry  Winnett."     Mr.  Jessop. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time: — 

Bill  (No.  3),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  818  of  the  Town  of  Napanee. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  8),  respecting  the  Oshawa  Young  Men's  Christian  Association. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  14),  To  amend  the  Act  to  incorporate  the  Ottawa  Young  Men's 
Christian  Association. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  16TH  FEBRUARY.  81 

Bill  (No.  15),  Respecting  the  St.  Thomas  Cemetery  Company. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  17),  Respecting  the  Estate  of  Blanche  Eleanor  Leslie. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Mr.  MacKay   (Grey),  asked  the  following  Question: — 

1.  What  amount  has  been  expended  to  the  end  of  October,  1909,  by  the 
Hydro-Electric  Commission:  (a)  For  all  purposes;  (&)  For  actual  construc- 
tion of  transmission  lines.  2.  In  what  cases,  if  any,  has  the  Commission  agreed 
to  build  the  transformer  stations.  3.  How  many  miles  of  wire,  if  any,  were 
actually  strung  on  October  31st,  1909,  for  transmission  purposes.  4.  When 
was  the  Corn  mission  constituted.  5.  To  what  municipalities  is  the  Commis- 
sion now  delivering  electric  energy. 

To  which  Mr.  Beck  replied  in  the  words  and  figures  following: — 

1.  Amount  that  has  been  expended  to  the  end  of  October,  1909 :  (a)  For 
all  purposes,  $495,984.46;  (b  )  For  actual  construction  of  transmission  lines, 
$230,273.29.  2.  The  Commission  builds  all  transformer  stations.  3.  Up  to 
October  31st,  1909,  no  wire  had  been  strung.  4.  2nd  Session,  llth  Legisla- 
ture, 6  Edward  VII.,  1906.  5.  The  City  of  Ottawa. 


Mr.  MacKay  (Grey),  asked  the  following  Question: — 

(1)  Has  any  survey  been  made,  or  inquiry  instituted  as  to  the  practicability 
of  a  General  Drainage  scheme  for  the  Fort  Frances  and  Rainy  River  District. 

(2)  If  so,  when  was  such  survey  made,  or  inquiry  instituted,  and  completed. 

(3)  By  whom  was  the  survey,  or  report,  made.      (4)  Has  any  survey  been  made 
or  inquiry  instituted,  as  to  the  practicability  of  constructing  a  through  Trunk 
Colonization  Road  from  Port  Arthur  to  Fort  Frances  and  Rainy  River.      (5) 
If  so,  when  was  such  survey  made,  or  inquiry  instituted,  and  completed.      (6) 
By  whom  was  the  survey,  or  report,  made. 

To  which  the  Minister  of  Public  Works  replied  as  follows: — 

(1)  A  general  survey  of  the  District  has  not  been  made.     A  Drainage  sys- 
tem has  been  adopted  to  procure  efficient  outlets  for  draining  the  roads  in  the 
district,  which  it  is  hoped  will  accomplish  the  double  work  of  providing  good 
roads  and  at  the  same  time  draining  the  country. 

(2)  In  1908  the  sum  of  $9,398.87  was  spent  on  drainage  works  in  nine 
tc  wnships,  namely,  Tait  and  Mather,  Mclrvine,  Lash,  Miscampbell,  Carpenter, 


16TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


Burris,  Crozier  and  Bobie.  In  1909  contracts  were  let  for  $4,515.50  and 
work  proceeded  with  in  five  townships,  namely,  Blue,  Crozier,  Burris,  Shenston 
and  Pattulo. 

In  the  Fall  of  1909  surveys  were  made  for  drains  in  Pratt,  Morley,  Pattulo> 
Shenston,  Dobie,  Carpenter,  Lash  and  Mclrvine. 

(3)  In  1908,  Mr.  D.  J.  Gillon,  C.E.,  Fort  Frances.     In  1909,  Mr.  A.  J. 
Halford,  C.E.,  Department  of  Public  Works,  Ontario. 

(4)  No. 

(5)  Nil. 

(6)  Nil. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Proudfoot,  seconded  by  Mr.  McCart ; 

Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a  Return  showing  the  num- 
ber of  permits  and  extensions  granted  to  Public  School  Teachers  during  the 
years  1908  and  1909: — (1)  The  reason  for  granting  such  permits  and  exten- 
sions. (2)  How  many  of  the  Teachers  who  received  permits  had  previously 
taught.  (3)  The  ages  of  the  Teachers  who  received  such  permits  and  exten- 
sions. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  MacKay  (Grey),  seconded  by  Mr.  McDougal ; 

Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a  Return  showing :  1.  The 
number  of  male  teachers  granted  County  Model  School  Certificates  in  the  years 
1906,  1907,  1908  and  1909,  respectively.  2.  The  number  of  female  teachers 
granted  County  Model  School  Certificates  in  the  years  1906,  1907,  1908  and 
1909,  respectively.  3.  The  number  of  male  teachers  granted  Normal  School 
Certificates  in  the  years  1906,  1907,  1908  and  1909,  respectively.  4.  The 
number  of  female  teachers  granted  Normal  School  Certificates  in  the  years 
1906,  1907,  1908  and  1909,  respectively. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  resuming  the  Adjourned  Debate  on  the  Motion, 
that  Mr.  Speaker  do  leave  the  Chair,  and  that  the  House  do  again  resolve  itself 
into  the  Committee  of  Supply,  having  been  read, 


EdW.    VII.  16TH  AND  I7TH  FEBRUARY.  83 


The  Debate  was  resumed,  and  after  some  time,  it  was,  on  the  motion  of 
Mr.  Studholme, 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  further  adjourned  until  To-morrow. 


On  motion  of  Sir  James  Whitney,  seconded  by  Mr.  Foy. 

Resolved,  That  when  this  House  adjourns  To-day,  it  do  stand  adjourned 
until  half  past  two  of  the  clock  To-morrow  afternoon. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  6.25  P.M. 


Thursday  17th.  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  2.30  O'Clock  P.M. 

Mr.   Speaker  informed  the  Ho.use, 

That  the  Clerk  had  received  from  the  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills,  their 
Report  in  the  following  case : — 

Bill  (No.  23),  Respecting  the  Estate  of  Charles  JSTorthcote. 

The  Report  was  then  read  by  the  Clerk,  at  the  Table,  as  follows : — 
To  the  Honourable  the  Legislative  Assembly  of  the  Province  of  Ontario. 

The  undersigned,  two  of  the  Commissioners  of  Estates  Bills,  to  whom  was 
referred  Bill  (No.  23),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Estate  of  Charles 
Northeote,"  have  the  honour  to  report  that  they  have  considered  the  Bill  and 
that  they  are  of  opinion  that  presuming  the  allegations  contained  in  the  Pre- 
amble to  be  proved  to  the  satisfaction  of  Your  Honourable  House,  it  is  reason- 
able that  the  Bill  should  pass  into  law  and  that  they  are  also  of  opinion  that 
the  provisions  of  the  Bill  are  proper  for  carrying  its  purposes  into  effect. 

All  of  which  is  respectfully  submitted. 

W.  R.  MEREDITH,  C.J.C.P. 
J.  V.  TEETZEL,  J.C.P.D. 

Dated  at  Osgoode  Hall,  Toronto,  this  17th  day  of  February,  1910. 


84  17TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


Ordered,  That  Bill  (No,  23),  Respecting  the  Estate  of  Charles  Northcote, 
be  referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills  with  instructions  to  consider  the 
same  with  reference  to  the  suggestions  of  the  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills 
thereon. 


The   following   Petitions   were   severally  brought   up    and  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

By  Mr.  Downey,  the  Petition  of  the  Toronto  Suburban  Railway  Company. 

By  Mr.  Thompson  (Simcoe),  the  Petition  of  Frank  F.  Telfer  and  others, 
of  Collingwood. 

By  Mr.  McKeown,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Mono. 
By  Mr.  McDonald,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Alexandria. 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received: — ; 

Of  Charles  W.  Chadwick  and  others  of  Kenora,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  extending  the  time  for  commencement  and  completion  of  the  Lac  Seul, 
Rat  Portage  and  Keewatin  Railway. 

Of  William  Mount  joy  and  others  of  Darlington,  praying  for  certain 
amendments  to  the  Act  to  prevent  the  Spread  of  Noxious  Weeds. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  the  Township  Council  of  the  United  Town- 
ships of  Denbigh,  Abinger  and  Ashby ;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Gos- 
field  North;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Macdonald,  severally  praying  for 
certain  amendments  to  the  Assessment  Act,  respecting  the  Taxation  of  Farm 
Buildings. 

* 


Mr.  Hendrie,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Railways,  presented  their 
First  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted: 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and  have 
prepared  certain  amendments  thereto  respectively: — 

Bill  (No.  4),  To  incorporate  the  Nickel  Range  Railway  Company. 
Bill  (No.  10),  Respecting  the  Western  Central  Railway  Company. 


Edw.  VIL  17TH  FEBRUARY.  85 


Bill  (No.  11),  To  incorporate  the  Wahnapitae  Railway  Company,  and 

Bill  (No.  13),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Bruce  Mines  and  Algoma 
Railway  Company. 

The  Committee  have  also  carefully  considered  Bill  (No.  18),  Respecting 
the  People's  Railway  Company,  and  find  the  preamble  thereof  not  proven  on 
the  ground  that  legislation  in  the  premises  is  neither  necessary  nor  expedient. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  the  fees,  less  the  actual  cost  of  printing, 
be  remitted  on  the  said  Bill. 


Ordered,  That  the  fees  less  the  actual  cost  of  printing,  be  remitted  on 
Bill  (No,  1*),  Poople's  Railway  Company. 


The  following  Bill  was  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill   (No.  16),  intituled  "An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Monarch  Railway 
Company."     Mr.    Thompson   (Simcoe.) 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  resuming  the  Adjourned  Debate  on  the  Motion 
that  Mr.  Speaker  do  leave  the  Chair,  and  that  the  House  do  again  resolve  itself 
into  the  Committee  of  Supply,  having  been  read. 

The  Debate  was  resumed, 
And  after  some  time, 

Mr.  MacKay  (Grey),  moved  in  Amendment,  seconded  by  Mr.  McDougal, 

That  all  the  words  of  the  Motion,  after  the  first  word  "  That "  be  sMick 
out  and  the  following  inserted :  "  This  House  regrets  that  when  a  proper 
classification  of  Current,  as  distinguished  from  Capital  Receipts  and  Expendi- 
tures has  been  made,  it  clearly  appears  that  the  Current  Expenditures  for  1909 
exceeded  the  current  Receipts,  and  this  House  therefore  regrets  that  the 
Government  is  gradually  depleting  our  Forest  Wealth,  while  doing  nothing  by 
way  of  Re-forestation,  or  otherwise,  to,  make  this  large  source  of  Revenue 
continuous  and  abiding. 


86  I?TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


"This  House  further  regrets  that,  because  of  the  abolition  of  the  Model 
Schools  and  of  unwarranted  and  undesirable  changes  in  Regulations,  the 
result  is,  that  about  ten  per  cent,  of  the  Public  Schools  of  this  Province  are 
without  qualified  Teachers  and  there  is  confusion  generally  as  to  Text  Books 
and  their  supply. 


"  This  House  further  regrets  that,  after  the  Government  had  spent  a  large 
amount  of  the  moneys  of  the  Province  in  making  the  necessary  literary  selec- 
tions for  the  Public  School  readers,  in  furnishing  illustrations,  plates,  electro- 
plating and  in  actually  setting  up  the  type,  etc.,  that  it  should  have  handed 
the  printing  of  the  said  readers  over  to  a  Toronto  Departmental  Store  at  a 
price  which  does  not  at  all  represent  the  whole  cost  of  the  said  readers,  while 
regulating  prices  so  as  to  induce  the  public  generally  to  deal  direct  with  the 
said  Toronto  Departmental  Store,  to  the  detriment  and  injury  of  the  whole 
retail  trade,  in  all  lines,  of  this  Province. 


"  This  House  further  says  that  the  said  readers  are  inferior  to  the  old 
readers,  both  as  to  contents  and  makeup,  and  the  Primer  is  entirely  wrong  in 
conception,  absolutely  unfit  for  use  in  primary  classes  and  should  be  immediately 
withdrawn. 


"  This  House  further  regrets,  that  no  practical  steps  have  been  taken  by  the 
Government  to  establish  a  system  of  Technical  Schools  throughout  the  Province, 
in  which  the  Mechanic  and  Artizan  may  receive  training  supplemental  to  his 
practical  training  in  the  workshop. 


"  This  House,  while  hereby  approving  of  all  legitimate  means  of  supply- 
ing cheap  power  to  the  Municipalities,  further  regrets  that  the  Hydro-Electric 
Commission  in  securing  easements  for  a  transmission  line  did  not  pursue  any 
systematic  and  equitable  plan  for  the  purpose  of  said  easements,  but  practised 
a  system  of  brow  beating  and  dickering  entirely  unworthy  of  this  Province 
and  one  which  has  led  to  absolutely  inequitable  results  as  to  the  amounts  paid  the 
farmers  for  the  said  easements. 


:<  This  House  views  with  disappointment  and  alarm,  the  denial  in  recent 
enactments  of  the  fundamental  right  of  the  Subject  to  access  to  the  Courts  of 
Justice  for  the  determination  of  matters  in  controversy  between  subject  and  sub- 
ject and  between  subjects  and  the  Crown." 


And  the  Amendment,  having  been  submitted  to  the  House,  the  same  was 
declared  to  be  lost  upon  the  following  Division : 


Edw.  VII. 


17TH  FEBRUARY. 


87 


YEAS. 

Messieurs  : 

Bowman 

McCormick                 Mackay  (Oxford) 

Eeid   (Renfrew? 

Clarke  (Northumberla'd} 

McDougal 

Mayberry 

Stock 

Elliott 

McEwing 

Racine 

Truax 

Kohler 

MacKay  (Grey)                Reed   (Wentworth) 

Tudhope. 

McCart 

NAYS. 

Messieurs  : 

Anderson 

Eerguson 

(Simcoe)         Lucas 

Paul 

Aubin 

Eerguson 

(Grenville)      McCowan 

Pearce 

Beck 

Eisher 

McDonald 

Pharand 

Bowyer 

Eox 

McElroy 

Pratt 

Brewster 

Eoy 

McGarry 

Preston  (Durham) 

Brower 

Eraser 

McNaught 

Preston   (Lanark) 

Calder 

Gallagher 

McPherson 

Preston  (Rainy  River) 

Carscallen 

Gamey 

Macdiarmid 

Reaume 

Charters 

Godfrey 

Mahaffy 

Richardson 

Clark    (Bruce) 

Grigg 

Mason 

Shaw 

Cochrane 

Hanna 

Matheson 

Shillington 

Craig 

Hearst 

Morel 

Smellie 

Dargavel 

Hoyle 

Musgrove 

Studholme 

Devitt 

Innes 

Neely 

Thompson  (Simcoe) 

Downey 

Jessop 

Nesbitt 

Thompson  (Peterboro) 

Doyle 

Johnson 

Nickle 

Torrance 

Duff 

Lackner 

Nixon 

Whitney 

Eilber 

Lennox 

Norman 

Wilson. 

PAIRS. 


Hendrie 


Proudfoot 


The  Original  Motion  having  been  then  again  submitted,  the  same  was 
carried  on  the  following  Division : 


Anderson 

Aubin 

Beck 

Bowyer 

Brewster 

Brower 

Calder 

Carscallen 

Charters 

Clark    (Bruce) 

Cochrane 
Craig 
Dargavel 
Devitt 


YEAS. 
Messieurs : 


Downey 

Hanna 

Doyle 

Hearst 

Duff 

Hoyle 

Eilber 

Innes 

Eerguson  (Simcoe) 

Jessop 

EergUSOn  (Grenville) 

Johnson 

Eisher 

Lackner 

Eox 

Lennox 

Eoy 

Lucas 

Eraser 

McCowan 

Gallagher 

McDonald 

Gamey 

McElroy 

Godfrey 

McGarry 

Grigg 

McNaught 

McPherson 

Macdiarmid 

Mahaffy 

Mason 

Matheson 

Morel 

Musgrove 

Neely 

ISTesbitt 

Nickle 

Nixon 

Norman 

Paul 

Pearce 


17TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


YEAS. 

Messieurs : 

Pharand  Preston  (Rainy  River)  Shillington  Thompson(Peterboro) 

Pratt  Eeaume  Smellie  Torrance 

Preston  (Durham)  Richardson  Studholme  Whitney 

Preston  (Lanark)  Shaw  .  Thompson  (Simcoe)  Wilson 

NAYS. 

Messieurs : 

Bowman  McCormick  Mackay  (Oxford)  Eeid  (Renfrew) 

Clarke(Northumberia'd)  McDougal  Mayberry  Stock 

Elliott  McEwing  Racine  Truax 

Kohler  MacKay  (Grey)  Reed  (Wentworth)  Tuhope 
McCart 

Proudfoot  Hendrie 

And  the  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That  there  be  granted  to  His  Majesty,  for  the  services  of  1909-10, 
the  following  sum: — 

78.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Office  of  the  Prime  Minister  and  Presi- 
dent of  the  Council.  $100.00. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  come  to  a  Resolution;  also,  That  the  Committee  had 
directed  him  to  ask  for  leave  to  sit  again. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  To-morrow. 

Resolved,  That  the  Committee  have  leave  to  sit  again  Tormorrow. 


On  motion  of  Sir  James  Whitney,  seconded  by  Mr.  Foy, 

Resolved >  That  when  this  House  adjourns  To-day  it  do  stand  adjourned 
until  Two  of  the  Clock  in  the  afternoon  of  To-morrow,  the  Eighteenth,  instant. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  6,55  P.M. 


Edw.  VII  18TH  FEBRUARY.  89 

Friday,  18th  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  2  O'Clock  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

By  Mr.  MacKay  (Grey),  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Derby. 
By  Mr.  Machin,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Kenora. 

By  Mr.  Smellie,  the  Petition  of  the  Thunder  Bay,  Nepigon  and  St.  Joe 
Kailway  Company. 

By  Mr.  McCormick,  the  Petition  of  William  Bowden  and  others,  of  Forest. 
By  Mr.  Fripp,  the  Petition  of  W.  S.  Scott  and  others,  of  Ottawa. 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received: — 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Cobalt,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify 
a  certain  Agreement  between  the  Corporation  and  the  Township  of  Coleman  re 
Water  Supply  to  the  Town. 

Of  George  Le  Riche  and  others,  of  Hamilton,  praying  for  the  repeal  of 
the  Act  respecting  the  Manufacture  and  Sale  of  Bread. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill  (No.  164),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Power  Commission  Act 
and  the  Power  Commission  Amendment  Act,  1909."     Mr.  MacKay  (Grey.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  165),  intituled  "  An  Act  to  amend  the  Ditches  and  Watercourses 
Act."     Mr.  Ferguson  (Simcoe.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  166),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  for  the  Improve- 
ment of  Public  Highways."     Mr.  Lennox. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  167),  intituled    "An    Act    to    amend    the    Assessment    Act." 
Mr.  Hanna. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 


90  18TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 

Bill  (No.  168),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Landlord  and  Tenants 
Act."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  McCart,  seconded  by  Mr.  Proudfoot, 

Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a  Return  of  copies  of  all 
correspondence  between  the  Government  of  Ontario,  or  any  Member  or  official 
thereof,  and  any  Judges  of  the  Court  of  Appeal,  for  Ontario,  or  of  the  High 
Court  of  Ontario,  suggesting,  or  respecting  Legislation  to  be  introduced  into 
the  Legislature  during  the  years  1907,  1908  and  1909. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time  :— 

Bill  (No.  1),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  9,  of  1909,  of  the  Town  of  Thorn- 
bury. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  12),  Respecting  the  Trustees  of  the  Toronto  General  Burying 
Grounds. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  33),  To  confirm  certain  By-laws  and  an  Agreement  between  the 
Townships  of  Southwold  and  Yarmouth. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  31),  Respecting  the  City  of  London. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  WThole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill   (No.  4),  To  incorporate  the  Nickel  Range  Railway  Company. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill   (No.  10),  Respecting  the  Western  Central  Railway  Company. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  11),  To  incorporate  the  Wahnapitae  Railway  Company. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next, 


Edw.  Vll.  18TH  FEBRUARY. 


91 


Bill  (No.  13),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Bruce  Mines  and  Aleoma 
Railway  Company. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  60),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  63),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  65),  To  amend  the  Fish  and  Game  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Fish  and  Game. 

Bill  (.No.  66),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  70),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 

Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

i 

Bill  (No.  74),  To^amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  77),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill   (No.  79),  To  amend -the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  80),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  Statute  Labour. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill   (No.  83),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  84),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Water  Works  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  92),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 


92  18TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  67 ),  To  amend 
the  Ontario  Eailway  and  Municipal  Board  Act  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  78),  To  amend 
the  Municipal  Act  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee,  severally  to  consider  the  fol- 
lowing Bills: — 

Bill  (No.  8),  Respecting  the  Oshawa  Young  Men's  Christian  Association. 
Bill  (No.  15),  Respecting  the  St.  Thomas  Cemetery  Company. 
Bill  (No.  17),  Respecting  the  Estate  of  Blanche  Eleanor  Leslie. 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Fergusen  (Grenville)  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  several  Bills  without  any 
Amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bills  reported,  be  severally  read  the  third  time  on  Mon- 
day next. 


The  House,  according  to  Order,  again  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee 
of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That  there  be  granted  to  His  Majesty,  for  the  services  of  1909- 
10,  the  following  sums: — 

79.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Attorney-General's  Depart- 

ment   $405  00 

80.  To    defray   the   expenses    of   Audit    of   Criminal    Justice 

Accounts 550  00 

81.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Insurance  Inspection 50  00 

82.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Ontario  Railway  and  Muni- 

cipal Board   450  00 

83.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Education  Department ....  600  00 


Edw.  VII.  18TH  FEBBUARY.  93 


84.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Department  of  Lands,  For- 

ests and  Mines , $200  00 

85.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Land  Sales  and  Free  Grants.  .  325  00 

86.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Military  Grants 200  00 

87.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Surveys  and  Patents 875  00 

88.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Woods  and  Forests 625  00 

89.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Accounts  Branch 2,400  00 

90.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Bureau  of  Mines 2,150  00 

91.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Public  Works  Department.  .  6,650  00 

92.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Highways  Branch 150  00 

93.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Colonization  Roads .  .  50  00 

94.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Fisheries  and  Game 450  00 

95.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Labour  Bureau 900  00 

96.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Treasury  Department 1,340  00 

97.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Succession  Duties  Branch.  .  400  00 

98.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Auditor's  Office 2,300  00 

99.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Provincial  Secretary's  De- 

partment    8,925  00 

100.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Inspection  of  Public  Institutions  1,950  00 

101.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  License  Branch 1,950  00 

102.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Registrar-General's  Branch.  .  1,350  00 

103.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Provincial  Board  of  Health.  .  3,050  00 

104.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Neglected  Children's  Branch  50  00 

105.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Department  of  Agriculture ..  2,200  00 
100.   To   defray  the   expenses   of   Colonization 1,420  00 

107.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Factory  Inspection  Branch.  .  .  .  1,570  00 

108.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous 150  00 

109.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Legislation 26,160  00 

110.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Supreme  Court  of  Judicature  525  00 

111.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Court  of  Appeal 175  25 

112.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Surrogate  Court. 125  00 

113.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Commutations  of  Fees 684  93 

114.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Inspection  of  Division  Courts.  .  650  00 

115.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Land  Titles  Office 2,780  00 

116.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Deputy  Clerks  of  the  Crown.  .  .  .  456  09 

117.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous 51,780  00 

118.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  District  of  Kenora 65  00 

119.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  District  of  Muskoka 100  00 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)    reported, 

That  the  Committee  had  come  to  several  Resolutions ;  also,  That  the  Committee 
had  directed  him  to  ask  for  leave  to  sit  again. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  Monday  next. 

Resolved,  That  the  Committee  have  leave  to  sit  again  on  Monday  next. 


18TH  AND  21sT  FEBRUARY.  1910 


On  motion  of  Sir  James  Whitney,  seconded  by  Mr.  Matheson, 

Resolved,  That  beginning  on  Monday  next,  and  for  each  succeeding  Mon- 
day for  the  remainder  of  the  Session,  Government  Orders  shall  be  upon  the 
Order  Paper. 


Mr.  Hanna  presented  to  the  House,  by  command  of  His  Honour  the 
Lieutenant-Governor : — 

Detailed  Report  of  the  Inspector  of  Insurance  and  Registrar  of  Friendly 
Societies  for  the  year  1909.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  10.) 

Also — Loan  Corporations'  Statements,  being  Financial  Statements  made 
by  Building  Societies,  Loan  Companies,  Loaning,  Land  and  Trust  Companies 
for  the  year  1909.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  11.) 

Also — Third  Annual  Report  of  the  Game  and  Fisheries  Department  for 
the  year  1909.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  13.) 


The  House  then    adjourned  at  4.30  P.M. 


Monday,  21st  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'Clock,  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up   and  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

By  Sir  James  Whitney,  the  Petition  of  the  Fourth  Branch  of  the  Amal- 
gamated Society  of  Carpenters  and  Joiners,  of  Toronto. 

By  Mr.  Mackay  (Oxford),  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  -*f  East 
Zorra. 

By  Mr.  Richardson,  the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Deseronto. 

By  Mr.  Downey,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  Guelph. 

By  Mr.  McCowan,  three  Petitions  of  the  Township  Council  of  Yoik. 


Edw.  VII.  21sT  FEBRUARY.  95 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received: — 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Alexandria,  praying  tha/t  an  Act  may  pass  to 
rstify  and  confirm  By-law  No.  124,  guaranteeing  bonds  of  the  Glengarry  Match 
Company,  Limited. 

Of  Frank  F.  Telfer  and  others  of  Collingwood,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  to  incorporate  the  Hurontario  Railway  Company. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Kenora,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  amending 
Act  of  incorporation  Cap.  83.55  Vic.  hy  repealing  Sections  4  and  5  thereof. 

Of  the  Toronto  Suburban  Railway  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  authorizing  an  extension  of  the  line  and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Thunder  Bay,  Nepigon  and  St.  Joe  Railway  Company,  praying 
that  an  Act  may  pass  extending  the  time  for  commencement  and  completion 
of  the  road. 

Of  W.  S.  Scott  and  others  of  Ottawa,  respecting  certain  Legislation  under 
7  and  8  Edw.  VII.,  Cap.  40  Dominion,  as  to  Juvenile  Delinquents. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  Mono;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of 
Derby ;  also,  of  William  Bowden  and  others  of  Forest,  severally  praying  for 
certain  amendments  to  the  Assessment  Act  respecting  the  Taxation  of  Farm 
Buildings. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time:— 

Bill  (No.  44),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Simcoe  Railway  and  Power 
Company."     Mr.  Tudhope. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill   (No.  172),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act.''     Mr. 
Lennox. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  152),  Rejecting 
the  Queen  Victoria  Niagara  Falls  Park,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith  again 
Deferred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the  same. 


96  2 IST  FEBRUARY.  1910 


The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee ;  and  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  153),  To  secure 
payment  of  Wages  for  Labour  performed  in  the  construction  of  Works,  having 
been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith  again 
referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the  same. 


The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee ;  and  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


The  following  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and  passed  :— 

Bill  (No.  17),  [Respecting  the  Estate  of  Blanche  Eleanor  Leslie. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee,   severally  to  consider  the 
following  Bills : — 

Bill  (No.  14),  To  amend  the  Act  to  incorporate  the  Ottawa  Young  Men's 
Christian  Association. 

Bill  (No.  1),  To  confirm    By-law    No.    9,    of    1909,    of    the    Town    of 
Thornbury. 

Bill  (No.  33),  To  confirm  ceriain  By-laws  and  an  Agreement  between  the 
Townships  of  Southwold  and  Yarmouth. 

Bill  (No.  31),  Kespecting  the  City  of  London. 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported,  That  the 
Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  several  Bills  without  any  amend- 
ments. 

Ordered.  That  the  Bills  reported,  be  severally  read  the  third  time  To- 
morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  21ST  FEBRUARY.  97 


On  motion  of  Mr.  McDougal,  seconded  by  Mr.  MacKay  (Grey), 

Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a  Keturn  showing: — (a) 
What  is  the  area  of  the  Gillies  Limit.  (&)  How  much  of  the  area  has  been 
reported  to  the  Government  to  be  mineralized,  (c)  How  much  of  the  area 
has  been  prospected,  (d)  How  much  of  the  area  has  been  sold,  (e)  What 
are  the  dates  of  the  respective  sales,  the  amount  sold  in  each  case,  the  names 
of  the  purchasers  and  the  prices  obtained  in  each  case. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time : — 
Bill  (No.  75 ),-  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  81),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill   (No.  94),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  97),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 


The  House,  according  to  Order,  again  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee 
of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,   That   there   be   granted   to   His   Majesty,   for   the   services   of 
1909-10,  the  following  sums:— 

120.  To   defray  the   expenses   of   Public   and   Separate  .School 

Education    $28,962   55 

121.  To  defray  the   expenses   of  Normal   and   Model   Schools, 

Toronto 550  00 

122.  To   defray  the  expenses   of  Normal   and   Model    Schools, 

Ottawa    2,393  00 

123.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Normal  School,  Hamilton.  .  200  00 

124.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Normal  School,  Peterborough  900  00 

125.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Normal  School,  North  Bay  675  00 
120.   To- defray  the  expenses  of  High  Schools   and  Collegiate 

Institutes  ..  5,200  00 


2  IST  FEBRUARY.  1910 


127.  To    defray    the    expenses    of    Departmental    Library    and 

Museum    \ $1,100  00 

128.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Libraries,  Art  Schools, 

Historical,  Literary  and  Scientific  Societies 100  00 

129.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Agricultural  and  Mining  Educa- 

tion    8,600  00 

130.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Maintenance  Education  Depart- 

ment and  Miscellaneous 1,300  00 

131.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Institution  for  the  Deaf  and 

Dumb,  Belleville 1,250  00 

132.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Institution  for  the  Blind,  Brant- 

ford  3,350  00 

133.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  maintenance  of  Hospital  for  the 

Insane,  Brockville 3,000  00 

134.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  maintenance  of  Hospital  for  the 

Insane,   Cobourg    - 200  00 

135.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  maintenance  of  Hospital  for  the 

Insane,  Hamilton 2,250  00 

136.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  maintenance  of  Hospital  for  the 

Insane,  Kingston 350  00 

137.  To  defray  the  expenses    of  maintenance  of  Hospital  for  the 

Insane,  London   300  00 

138.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  maintenance  of  Hospital  for  the 

Insane,  Mimico   850  00 

139.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  maintenance  of  Hospital  for 

Idiots,  Orillia    1,750  00 

140.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  maintenance  of  Hospital  for  the 

Insane,  Penetanguishene 300  00 

141.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  maintenance  of  Hospital  for  the 

Insane,  Toronto 1,750  00 

142.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  maintenance  of  Hospital  for 

Epileptics,  Woodstock 2,000  00 

143.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  maintenance  of  Central  Prison, 

Toronto 3,550  00 

144.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Central  Prison  Industries 250  00 

145.  To   defray  the  expenses   of  maintenance   of  the   Andrew 

Mercer  Eef ormatory  for  Females,  Toronto 700  00 

146.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Agricultural  and  Horticultural 

Societies    3,670  00 

147.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Live  Stock  Branch 1,758  00 

148.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Institutes 2,750  00 

149.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Dairy  Branch 2,020  00 

150.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Fruit  Branch .  2,570  00 

151.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Ontario  Veterinary  College.  .  .  .  7,000  00 

152.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous 2,500  00 


Edw.  VII.  21sT  FEBRUARY.  99 


153.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Agricultural  College $10,350  00 

154.  Te  defray  the  expenses  of  Macdonald  Institute  and  Hall .  .  1,650  00 

155.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Field  Experiments 500  00 

156.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Experimental  Dairy  Department  525  00 

157.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Agricultural  Department 750  00 

158.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Soil  Physics  Department 3,000  Otf 

160.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Stationary  Engineers 100  00 

161.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Hospitals  and  Charities 41,750  00 

162.  To   defray   the   expenses   of   maintenance    and   repairs   to 

Government  House 4,187  58 

163.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  maintenance  and  repairs  to  Par- 

liament Buildings 211,121  00 

164.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Osgoode  Hall 20,425   18 

165.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Hospital  for  Insane, 

Brockville 16,000  00 

166.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Hospital  for  Insane, 

Cobourg    3,300  00 

167.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Hospital  for  Insane, 

Hamilton    16,800  00 

168.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Hospital  for  Insane, 

Kingston , .         23,000  00 

169.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Hospital  for  Insane, 

London   16,570  00 

170.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Hospital  for  Insane, 

Mimico 19,400  00 

171.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Hospital  for  Idiots, 

Orillia 14,000  00 

172.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Hospital  for  Insane, 

Penetanguishene    14,500  00 

173.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Hospital  for  Insane, 

Toronto ., 9,000  00 

174.  To  defray  the  exenses  of  works  at  Hospital  for  Epileptics.  .  6,500  00 

175.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Central  Prison,  Toronto      129,500  00 

176.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  the  Andrew  Mercer 

Reformatory  for  Females,  Toronto 5,000  00 

177.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Normal  and  Model 

Schools,  Toronto 15,970  00 

178.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Normal  and  Model 

Schools,  Ottawa 2,400  00 

179.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Normal  and  Model 

Schools,  London 900  00 

180.  To    defray    the    expenses    of    works    at    Normal    School, 

Hamilton    1,300  00 

181.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Normal  School,  Peter- 

borough      3,600  00 


100                                   .                21ST  FEBRUARY.  1910 

182.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Normal  School,  Strat- 

ford  $2,300  00 

183.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Normal  School,  North 

Bay 5,600  00 

184.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  New  Normal  Schools 7,558  00 

185.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  the  Institution  for  the 

Deaf  and  Dumb,  Belleville 8,100  00 

186.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  the  Institution  for  the 

Blind,  Brantford 10,774  00 

187.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  the  Agricultural  College  1,800  00 

188.  To   defray  the  expenses  of  works   at  the  Eastern  Dairy 

School 500  00 

189.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Experimental  Fruit 

Farm,  Jordan  Harbour 600  00 

190.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  at  Winter  Fair  Buildings, 

Guelph    1,000  00 

192.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  in  Muskoka  District.  .  .  .  913  42 

193.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  in  Nipissing  District.  .  .  .  5,887  85 

194.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  in  Parry  Sound  District.  .  700  00 

195.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  in  Manitoulin  District.  .  400  00 

196.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  in  Sudbury  District.  .  .  .  3,997  00 

197.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  in  Sault  Ste.  Marie  Dis- 

trict   2,500  00 

198.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  in  Kainy  Kiver  District.  .  1,530  00 

199.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  in  Thunder  Bay  District  2,301  95 

200.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  in  Kenora  District 29,075  00 

201.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Works 175,697  00 

202.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Charges  on  Crown  Lands 114,400  00 

203.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Eefund  Account    (Succession 

Duty) 33,000  00 

204.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Refund  Account,  Lands,  Forests 

and  Mines 1,250  00 

205.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Refund  Account,  Land  Improve- 

ment Fund 1,338  04 

206.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous 2,603,132  66 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  come  to  several  Resolutions ;  also,  That  the  Committee  had  directed 
him  to  ask  for  leave  to  sit  again. 


Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  To-morrow. 

Resolved,  That  the  Committee  have  leave  to  sit  again  To-morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  21sT  AND  22ND  FEBRUARY.  101 


Mr.  Hanna-  presented  to  the  House,  by  command  of    His    Honour    the 
Lientenant-Governor : — 

Report  of  the  Minister  of  Education  of  the  Province  of  On t aria,  for  the 
year  1909.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  16.) 

Also — Report  of  the  registration  of  Births,  Marriages  and  Deaths,  for  the 
year  1908,      (Sessional  Papers  No.  19.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Provincial  Board  of  Health,   for  the,  year   190.9. 
(Sessional  Papers  No.  20.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Milk  Commission  appointed  to  enquire  into  the  pro- 
duction, care  and  distribution  of  Milk.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  55.) 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  5.40  P.M. 


Tuesday,  22nd  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'Clock,  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up   and  laid   upon  the 
Table:- 

Mr.  Preston   (Rainy  River),  the  Petition  of  the  Municipality  of  Emo; 
also,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Chappie. 

By  Mr.  Eraser,  the  Petition  of  Erancis  R.  Lalor  and  others,  of  Dunnville. 

By  Mr.  Studholme,  three  Petitions  of  the  Trades  and  Labour  Association, 
of  Ottawa. 

By  Mr.  Lennox,  the  Petition  of    the    Cobalt    Lake    Mining    Company, 
Limited. 

By  Mr.  Fripp,  the  Petition  of  Crawford  Ross  and  others,  of  Ottawa. 

By  Mr.  Lackner,  the  Petition  of  the  Twin  City  Trades  and  Labour  Council, 
of  Berlin. 


102  22ND  FEBRUARY.  1910 

The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received: — 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Guelph,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify 
and  confirm  certain  By-laws  providing  for  the  issue  of  debentures ;  the  borrow- 
ing of  money  and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  York,  praying  for  certain  amendments  to 
the  Municipal  Act  respecting  Sinking  Funds. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  York,  praying  for  certain  amendments  to  the 
Municipal  Act,  respecting  the  borrowing  of  money. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  York,  praying  for  certain  amendments  to  the 
Municipal  Act  and  Amendments  of  1904  and  1909. 

Of  the  Fourth  Branch  of  the  Amalgamated  Society  of  Carpenters,  of 
Toronto;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  East  Zorra;  also,  of  the  Town 
Council  of  Deseronto,  severally  praying  for  certain  amendments  to  the  Assess- 
ment Act  respecting  the  Taxation  of  Farm  Buildings. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time : — 

Bill   (No.  174),  intituled  "An  Act  to  revise  and  amend  the  Chartered 
Accountants  Act."     Mr.  Johnson. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  175),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act.'1     Mr. 
Fripp. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill    (No.   176),  intituled  "An  Act  to    amend    the    Temiskaming    and 
Northern  Ontario  Railway  Act."     Mr.  Reaume. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  third  time  and  passed : — 
Bill  (No.  8),  Respecting  the  Oshawa  Young  Men's  Christian  Association. 

Bill  (No.  15),  Respecting  the  St.  Thomas  Cemetery  Company. 

Bill  (No.  14),  To  amend  the  Act  to  incorporate  the  Ottawa  Young  Men's 
Christian  Association. 


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Bill  (No.  1),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  9,  of  1909,  of  the  Town  of  Thorn- 
bury. 

Bill  (No.  33),  To  confirm  certain  By-laws  and  an  Agreement  between  the 
Townships  of  Southwold  and  Yarmouth. 


The  House,  according  to  Order,  again  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee 
of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That  there  be  granted  to  His  Majesty,  for  the  services  of  1909- 
10,  the  following  sums: — 

159.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Colonization  and  Immigration.  .  $     15,175  00 

191.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  works  re  Colonization  and  Immi- 
gration Offices,  London,  England 17,000  00 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  come  to  several  Resolutions ;  also,  That  the  Committee 
had  directed  him  to  ask  for  leave  to  sit  again. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  To-morrow. 

Resolved,  That  the  Committee  have  leave  to  sit  again  To-morrow. 


Mr.  Ferguson   (Grenville)   reported  the  following  Resolutions  from  the 
Committee  of  Supply: — 

78.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Office  of  the  Prime  Minister 
for  the  j'ear  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

79.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  hundred  and  five  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Attorney  General's 
Department  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

80.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Five  hundred  and  fifty  dollars  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Audit  of  Criminal  Justice 
Accounts  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 


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81.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His 
Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Insurance  Inspection  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1910. 

82.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  hundred  and  fifty  dollars  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Ontario  Railway  and 
Municipal  Board  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

83.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Six  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Education  Department  for  the 
year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

84.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Department  of  Lands,  Forests 
and  Mines  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

85.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Three  hundred  and  twenty-five 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Land  Sales  and 
Free  Grants  Branch  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

86.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Military  Grants  Branch  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1910. 

87.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eight  hundred  and  seventy-five 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Surveys  and  Patents 
Branch  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

88.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Six  hundred  and  twenty-five  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Woods  and  Forests 
Branch  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

89.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand    four  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Accounts 
Branch  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

90.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand   one  hundred  and 
fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Bureau 
of  Mines  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

91.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Six  thousand  six  hundred  and  fifty 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Public  Works 
Department  for  the  year  ending  31st   October,   1910. 


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92.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  fifty  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Highways  Branch  for 
the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

93.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His 
Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Colonization  Eoads  Branch  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1910. 

94.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  hundred  and  fifty  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Fisheries  and  Game  Branch 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

95.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Nine  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Labour  Bureau  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1910. 

96.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand    three  hundred 
and  forty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
Treasury  Department  for  the  year  ending   31st   October,    1910. 

97.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Succession  Duties  Branch  for 
the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

98.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand    three  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Auditor's 
Office  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,   1910. 

99.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eight  thousand    nine  hundred 
and  twenty-five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of 
the   Provincial    Secretary's   Department   for   the   year   ending   31st   October, 
1910. 

100.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand    nine  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Inspec- 
tion of  Public  Institutions  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

101.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  nine  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
License  Branch  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

102.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  three  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
Registrar  General's  Branch  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 


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103.  Eesolved,  That  a  sum  not    exceeding    Three    thousand    and    filty 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Provincial 
Board  of  Health  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

104.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fifty  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray    the    expenses    of    the    Neglected  Children's  Branch 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

105.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand  two  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the   Depart- 
ment of  Agriculture  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

106.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  four  hundred 
and  twenty  dollars   be  granted  to  His   Majesty  to   defray  the   expenses   of 
Colonization  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,   1910. 

107.  Resolved,   That  a   sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  five  hundred 
and  seventy  dollars  be  granted  to  His   Majesty  to   defray  the  expenses  of 
Factory  Inspection  Branch  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

108.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  fifty  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1910. 

109.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twenty-six  thousand  one  hun- 
dred and  sixty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of 
Legislation  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

110.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Five  hundred  and  twenty-five 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the   Supreme 
Court  of  Judicature  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,   1910. 

111.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  seventy-five 
dollars  and  twenty-five  cents  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses 
of  the  Court  of  Appeal  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

112.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  twenty -five 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Surrogate 
Office  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

113.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Six  hundred  and  eighty-four 
dollars  and  ninety-three  cents  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  ex- 
penses of  the  Commutation  of  Fees  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

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114.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Six  hundred  and  fifty  dollars 


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be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Inspection  of  Division 
Courts  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

115.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand  seven  hundred 
and  eighty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
Land  Titles  Offices  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

116.  Resolved,   That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  hundred  and  fifty-six 
dollars  and  nine  cents  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
Deputy  Clerks  of  the  Crown  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

117.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fifty-one  thousand  seven  hun- 
dred and  eighty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of 
Miscellaneous  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

118.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Sixty-five  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Local  Registrar,  Kenora,  for  the 
year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

119.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Police  Magistrate,  Muskoka,  for 
the  year  ending  31st  October,   1910. 

120.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twenty-eight  thousand  nine 
hundred  and  sixty-two  dollars  and  fifty-five  cents  be  granted  to  His  Majesty 
to   defray  the   expenses   of   Public   and   Separate   School   Education   for   the 
year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

121.  Resolved,   That   a   sum   not    exceeding    Five    hundred     and    fifty 
dollars   be  granted  to   His   Majesty  to   defray  the   expenses   of   Normal    and 
Model  Schools,  Toronto,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

122.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand  three  hundred 
and  ninety-three  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of 
Normal  and  Model  Schools,  Ottawa,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

123.  Resolved,    That    a    sum    not    exceeding    Two  hundred  dollars    be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Normal  School,  Hamilton, 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

124.  Resolved,  That  a  sum    not    exceeding    Nine    hundred    dollars    be 
granted  to  His   Majesty  to   defray  the   expenses   of  Normal    School,    Peter- 
borough, for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

125.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Six  hundred  and  seventy-five 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Normal  School, 
North  Bay,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 


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120.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Five  thousand  two  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  High  Schools 
and  Collegiate  Institutes  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  ID  10 

127.  Resolved,   That   a   sum   not   exceeding   One   thousand   one   hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Departmental 
Library  and  Museum  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

128.  Resolved,  That  a    sum    not    exceeding    One    hundred    dollars    be 
granted    to  His  Majesty  to    defray    the  expenses    of    Public    Libraries,    Art 
Schools,    Historical,    Literary   and    Scientific   Societies   for   the   year    ending 
31st  October,  1910 

129.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eight  thousand  six  hundred 
dollars    be    granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the    expenses    of    Agricultural 
and  Mining  Education,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

130.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  three  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Maintenance 
Education  Department  and  Miscellaneous  for  the  year  ending  31st  October, 
1910 

131.  Resolved,   That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  two  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
Institution  for  the  Deaf  and  Dumb,  Belleville,    for    the    year    ending    31st 
October,  1910. 

132.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Three  thousand  three  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
Institution  for  the  Blind,  Brantford,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

133.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding    Three    thousand    dollars    be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Insane, 
JBrockville,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

134.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  the  Insane,  Cobourg, 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

135.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand  two  hundred  and 
fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital 
for  the  Insane,  Hamilton,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

136.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Three  hundred  and  fifty  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  the 
Insane,  Kingston,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 


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137.  Resolved,   That   a   sum   not   exceeding   Three   hundred    dollars    be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  the  Insane, 
London,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

138.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eight  hundred  and  fifty  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  the  Insane, 
Mimico,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

139.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  seven  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
Hospital  for  Idiots,  Orillia,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

140.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not    exceeding    Three    hundred    dollars    be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  the  Insane, 
Penetanguishene,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

141.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  seven  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospi- 
tal for  the  Insane,  Toronto,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

142.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Epileptics,  Wood- 
stock, for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

143.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Three  thousand  five  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Cen- 
tral Prison,  Toronto,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

144.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  hundred  and  fifty  dollars 
be  granted  to  His   Majesty  to   defray  the   expenses   of   the   Central    Prison 
Industries,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

145.  Resolved,    That    a    sum   not    exceeding    Seven   hundred   dollars   be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Andrew  Mercer  Reforma- 
tory for  Females  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

146.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Three  thousand  six  hundred  and 
seventy  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Agricul- 
tural and  Horticultural  Societies  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

147.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  seven  hundred 
and  fifty-eight  dollars  be  granted  :o  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
Live  Stock  Branch,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

1.48.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand  seven  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Farmers, 
Women's  and  other  Institutes  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 


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149.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand  and  twenty  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Dairy  Branch  for 
the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

150.  Resolved,  That  a  sum.  not  exceeding  Two  thousand  five  hundred  and 
seventy  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray    the    expenses    of    the 
Fruit  Branch  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

151.  Resolved,   That   a   sum   not   exceeding   Seven   thousand   dollars   be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Ontario  Veterinary 
College  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

152.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand  five  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous  for 
the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

153.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Ten  thousand  three  hundred  and 
fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Ontario 
Agricultural  College  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

154.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  six  hundred  and 
fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Macdon- 
ald  Institute  and  Hall,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

155.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Five  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Field  Experiments  for  the  year  end- 
ing 31st  October,  1910. 

156.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Five  hundred  and  twenty-five 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Experimental 
Dairy  Department  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

157.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Seven  hundred  and  fifty  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Apicultural  Depart- 
ment for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

158.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not    exceeding    Three  thousand  dollars    be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Soils  Physics  Depart- 
ment for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

159.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fifteen  thousand  one  hundred 
and  seventy-five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of 
Colonization  and  Immigration  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

160.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Stationary  Engineers  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1910. 


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161.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Forty-one  thousand  seven  hun- 
dred and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of 
Hospitals  and  Charities  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

162.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  thousand  one  hundred  and 
eighty-seven  dollars  and  fifty-eight  cents  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray 
the  expenses  of  Maintenance  and  Repairs  to  Government  House  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1910. 

163.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  hundred  and  eleven  thou- 
sand one  hundred  and  twenty-one  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray 
the  expenses  of  Maintenance  and  Repairs  to  Parliament  Buildings  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1910. 

164.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twenty  thousand  four  hundred 
and  twenty-five  dollars  and  eighteen  cents  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray 
the  expenses  of  Works  at  Osgoode  Hall,  Toronto,  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1910. 

165.  Resolved,   That  a  sum   not  exceeding  Sixteen  thousand  dollars  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Hospital  for  Insane, 
Brockville,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

166.  Resolved,  That,  a  sum  not  exceeding  Three  thousand  three  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Hospital  for 
Insane,  Cobourg,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

167.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Sixteen  thousand  eight  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Hospital 
for  Insane,  Hamilton,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

168.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twenty-three  thousand  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Hospital  for 
Insane,  Kingston,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

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169.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Sixteen  thousand  five  hundred 
and  seventy  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works 
at  Hospital  for  Insane,  London,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

170.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Nineteen  thousand  four  hun- 
dred dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at 
Hospital  for  Insane,  Mimico,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

171.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fourteen  thousand  dollars  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to    defray    the    expenses  of  Works    at   Hospital  for 
Idiots,  Orillia,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 


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172.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fourteen  thousand  five  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Hospital 
for  Insane,  Penetanguishene,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

173.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Nine  thousand  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Hospital  for  Insanp,  Toronto, 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

174.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Six  thousand  five  hundred  dol- 
lars be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Hospital  for 
Epileptics,  Woodstock,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

175.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  twenty-nine 
thousand  five  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses 
of  Works  at  Central  Prison,  Toronto,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

176.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Five  thousand  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Mercer  Reformatory  for 
Females,  Toronto,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

177.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fifteen  thousand  ni-ne  hundred 
and  seventy  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works 
at  Normal  and  Model  Schools,  Toronto,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

178.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand  four  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Normal 
and  Model  Schools,  Ottawa,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

179.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Nine  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Normal  and  Model  School, 
London,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

180.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  three  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Normal 
School,  Hamilton,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

181.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Three  thousand  six  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Normal 
School,  Peterborough,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

182.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand  three  hundred- 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Normal 
School,  Stratford,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

183.  Resolved,   That   a   sum  not  exceeding  Five  thousand   six   hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Normal 
School.  North  Bay,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 


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184.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Seven  thousand  five  hundred  and 
fifty-eight  dollars  he  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at 
New  Normal  Schools  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910, 

185.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eight  thousand  one  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Deaf  and 
Dumb  Institute,  Belleville,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

186.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Ten  thousand  seven  hundred 
and  seventy-four  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses 
of  Works  at  Blind  Institute,  Brantford,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

187.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  eight  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Agricul- 
tural College,  Gnclph,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

188.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Five  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Eastern  Dairy  School  for 
the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

180.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Six  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Experimental  Fruit  Farm, 
Jordan  Harbour,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

190.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  dollars  be  granted 
to   His    Majesty    to    defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Winter  Fair  Buildings, 
Guelph,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

191.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Seventeen  thousand  dollars  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  at  Colonization  and 
Immigration  Buildings,  London,  England,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October, 
1910. 

192.  Resolved,   That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Nine  hundred  and  thirteen 
dollars  and  forty-two  cents  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of 

Works  in  Muskoka  District,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

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193.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Five  thousand  eight  hundred 
and  eighty-seven  dollars  and  eighty-five  cents  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to 
defray  the  expenses  of  Works  in  Nipissing  District  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1910. 

194.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Seven  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  in  Parry  Sound  District  for 
the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 


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195.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  hundred  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  in  Manitoulin  District  for 
the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

196.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Three  thousand  nine  hundred 
and  ninety-seven  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of 
Works  in  Sudbury  District  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

197.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand  five  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  in  the  Sault 
Ste.  Marie  District  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

198.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  five  hundred  and 
thirty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works  in 
Rainy  River  District  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

199.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  thousand  three  hundred 
and  one  dollars  and  ninety-five    cents    be    granted  to    His    Majesty  to  defray 
the  expenses  of  Works  in  Thunder  Bay  1  Hstrict  for  the  year    ending    31st 
October,  1910. 

200.  'Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding    Twenty-nine    thousand    and 
seventy-five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Works 
in  Kenora  District  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

201.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  seventy-five 
thousand  six  hundred  and  ninety-seven  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to 
defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Works  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

202.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One    hundred    and    fourteen 
thousand  four  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses 
of  Charges  on  Crown  Lands  for  the  year  ending  31,st  October,  1910. 

203.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Thirty-three  thousand  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Eefund  Account — Succes- 
sion Duty — for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

204.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  two  hundred  and 
fifty  dollars  be   granted   to   His    Majesty  to   defray  the  expenses  of  Refund 
Account — Lands,  Forests  and  Mines — for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

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205.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  three  hundred 
and  thirty-eight  dollars  and  four  cents  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray 
the  expenses  of  Refund  Account — Land  Improvement  Fund — for  the  year  end- 
ing 31st  October,  1910. 


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206.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  millions  six  hundred  and 
three  thousand  one  hundred  and  thirty-two  dollars  and  sixty-six  cents  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous  for  the  year 
snding  -'Hst  October,  1910. 


The  several  Resolutions,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  concurred 
in. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time : — 
Bill  (No.  72),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  160),  To  amend  the  Judicature  Act. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  161),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Property  of  Religious 
Institutions. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow.  • 

Bill  (No.  168),  To  amend  the  Landlord  and  Tenants  Act. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  71),  To  amend 
the  Municipal  Act,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  73),  To  amend 
the  Municipal  Act,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  'Committee,  severally  to  consider  the  fol- 
lowing Bills : — 

Bill  (No.  4),  To  incorporate  the  Nickel  Range  Railway  Company. 


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Bill  (No.  10) ,  Respecting  the  Western  Central  Railway  Company. 
Bill  (No.  11),  To  incorporate  the  Wahnapitae  Railway  Company. 

Bill  (No.  13),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Bruce  Mines  and  Algoma 
Railway  Company. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Thompson  (Simcoe)  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  several  Bills  without  any 
amendments. 

Ordered,  Thai  the  Bills  reported,  be  severally  read  the  third  time  To- 
morrow. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Reed  (Wentworth),  seconded  by  Mr.  McDougal, 

Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a  Return  of  all  Awards  by 
any  Arbitrator  of  Board  of  Arbitration,  to  settle  disputes  between  the  Hydro- 
Electric  Power  Commission  and  those  over  whose  lands  the  Commission  have 
taken  Easements. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  6  P.M. 


Wednesday,   23rd  February,    1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'Clock,  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up   and  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

Mr.  Shaw,  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council  of  Toronto. 
Mr.  Downey,  the  Petition  of  the  Board  of  Trade,  Guelph. 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received : — 

Of  Francis  R.  Lalor  and  others,  of  Dunnville,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  to  incorporate  the  Niagara  Falls,  Welland  and  Dunnville  Electric  Railway 
Company. 


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Of  the  Cobalt  Lake  Mining  Company,  Limited,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  to  authorize  the  Company  to  reduce  its  Capital  Stock  from  $5,000,000 
to  $3,500,000. 

Of  Crawford  Ross  and  others,  of  Ottawa,  respecting  exemption  from  pay- 
ment of  Income  Tax. 

Of  the  Twin  City  Trades  and  Labour  Council  of  Berlin ;  also,  three  Peti- 
tions of  the  Trades  and  Labour  Association  ol  uttawa;  also,  of  the  Township 
Council  of  Chappie ;  also,  of  the  Municipal  Councl  of  Emo,  severally  praying 
for  certain  amendments  to  the  Assessment  Act,  respecting  the  Taxation  of 
Farm  Buildings. 


Mr.  Hoyle,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  presented 
their  Seventh  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted: — 

The  Committee  have  carefully  examined  the  following  Petitions  and  find 
the  Notices,  as  published,  in  each  case  sufficient: 

Of  the  Morrisburg  Electric  Railway  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  to  amend  their  Act  of  Incorporation. 

Of  Charles  W.  Chadwick  and  others,  of  Kenora,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  extending  the  time  for  commencement  and  completion  of  the  Lac  Seul, 
Rat  Portage  and  Keewatin  Railway. 

Of  Lester  McDonnell  Coulter,  of  Toronto,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
authorizing  him  to  practise  as  a  Physician  and  Surgeon  in  Ontario. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Brantford,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  enabling 
the  Corporation  to  effect  changes  in  the  mode  of  maintaining  the  John  H.  Strat- 
ford Hospital  and  to  ratify  and  confirm  certain  By-laws  re  issue  of  debentures 
and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  John  Smallman  and  others,  of  Toronto,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
to  incorporate  the  Artesian  Water  Company,  Limited. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Ottawa,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  authorizing 
the  issue  of  certain  Debentures  for  Fire  Stations,  Park  purposes,  etc.,  to  amend 
certain  Acts  relating  to  the  Corporation  and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Toronto,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  authorize 
the  expenditure  of  certain  moneys;  to  ratify  and  confirm  certain  By-laws  and 
for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Hamilton,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  authoriz- 


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ing  the  Corporation  to  levy  the  same  rate  of  taxation  in  respect  to  annexed 
portions  of  the  City  as  is  levied  in  the  older  portion;  to  pass  certain  By-laws 
and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Barrie,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify 
and  confirm  a  certain  By-law  and  Agreement  relating  to  the  Barrie  Tanning 
Company,  Limited. 

Of  the  Monarch  Fire  Insurance  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
to  ratify  and  confirm  a  certain  By-law  relative  to  and  reducing  the  Capital 
Stock  of  the  Company. 

Of  Ingersoll  Olmstead  and  others,  of  Hamilton,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  to  incorporate  the  Hamilton  School  of  Anatomy. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  York,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  amend 
the  Act  9  Edw.  VII.,  c.  126,  relating  to  the  Township  by  changing  certain  words 
in  Sec.  1. 

Of  the  Iron  Range  Railway  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass 
extending  the  time  for  the  commencement  and  completion  of  the  road. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  St.  Catharines,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
ratify  and  confirm  By-law  'No.  2116  respecting  the  St.  Catharines  Woollen 
Mills,  Limited. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  St.  Catharines,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
ratify  and  confirm  By-law  !N"o.  2126  of  the  City  in  aid  of  the  Monarch  Knit- 
ting Company. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Guelph,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify 
and  confirm  certain  By-laws  providing  for  the  issue  of  debentures ;  the  borrow- 
ing of  money  and  for  otfrer  purposes. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Windsor,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  amend 
7  Edw.  VII.,  Cap.  97,  sec.  1,  extending  the  time  for  granting  Bonuses  from 
five  to  eight  years. 

Of  the  Woodstock  Young  Men's  Christian  Association,  praying  that  an 
Act  may  pass  to  enable  the  holding  of  real  estate  and  to  exempt  property  from 
taxation  except  for  local  improvements. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Brampton,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
ratify  and  confirm  certain  By-laws. 

Of  the  Mississippi  River  Improvement  Company,  praying  that  an  Act 


Edw.  VII.  23RD  FEBRUARY.  119 


may  pass  authorizing  the  Company  to  collect  tolls  along  the  Mississippi  River 
and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Cobalt  and  the  Township  Council  of  Coleman, 
praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  ratify  a  certain  Agreement  between  the  Cor- 
porations respecting  Water  Supply  and  Sewage  System  in  and  for  said  Town. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  Rule  ISTo.  51  of  this  Honourable  House 
be  further  suspended  in  this,  that  the  time  for  introducing  Private  Bills  be 
further  extended  until  and  inclusive  of  Friday  the  Twenty-fifth  day  of  Febru- 
ary instant,  this  extension  being  necessary  so  as  to  admit  of  Bills — the  Petitions 
for  which  are  presented  To-day — the  time  limited  in  the  last  Report  of  the' 
Committee — being  introduced  to  the  House. 


Mr.  Hoyle,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  presented 
their  Eighth  "Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted: — 

The  Committee  have  carefully  examined  the  Petition  of  Campbell  Black 
and  others,  of  Toronto,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  incorporate  the 
Osteopathic  College  of  Ontario  and  find  that  notice  of  the  proposed  applica- 
tion of  this  Legislature  was  published  in  the  "  Ontario  Gazette  "  fv>i  a  period 
of  six  weeks  but  that  no  notice  has  been  published  in  any  local  newspaper. 

The  Committee  are  cf  the  opinion  that  notice  should  have  been  published 
in  some  local  newspaper  as  required  by  the  Rules  of  this  Honourable  House, 
so  that  the  public  might  have  had  an  opportunity  of  becoming  aware  of  the 
proposed  legislation. 

The  Committee  would  therefore  recommend  that  the  Rules  of  this  Hon- 
ourable House,  not  having  been  complied  with,  the  notices  as  published  be  not 
considered  sufficient  and  that  the  matter  be  not  further  proceeded  with. 


Mr.  Hoyle,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  presented 
their  Ninth  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted: — 

The  Committee  have  carefully  examined  the  Petition  of  Frank  H.  Telfer 
and  others,  of  Collingwood,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  incorporate  the 
Hurontario  Railway  Company  and  find  that  notice  of  the  proposed  application 
to  this  Legislature  has  been  published  a  sufficient  length  of  time  in  the  "  On- 
tario Gazette  "  and  in  a  newspaper  published  in  the  County  of  Simcoe. 

The  Committee  find  that  the  Petition  asks  for  power  to  construct  a  line 
of  railway  from  a  point  at,  or  near,  the  Town  of  Collingwood  to  the  Town  of 


120  23RD  FEBRUARY.  1910 


Barrie,  the  notice,  in  addition  to  this,  asks  "  to  continue  and  perpetuate  as  part 
of  the  Act,  the  whole  or  any  provision  of  the  Act  38  Victoria,  Cap.  50,"  which 
Act  authorizes  the  construction  of  a  railway  from  some  point  at  or  near  Toronto, 
on  the  shore  of  Lake  Ontario,  to  some  point  on  the  shore  of  the  Georgian  Bay. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  the  attention  of  the  Railway  Committee 
be  directed  to  this  matter  so  that  when  the  Bill,  founded  on  this  Petition,  comes 
before  that  Committee,  the  location  of  the  route  of  the  railway  be  made  to 
conform  to  that  set  out  in  the  Petition. 


Mr.  Lucas,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Private  Bills,  presented 
their  Third  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted: — 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bill  and  report 
the  same  without  amendment: 

Bill  (No.  23),  Respecting  the  Estate  of  Charles  Northcote. 

The  Committee  have  also  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and 
report  the  same  with  certain  amendments: 

Bill  (No.  19),  To  confirm  By-law  2106  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines. 
Bill  (No.  24),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Niagara  and  Henry  Winnett. 
Bill  (No.  25),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Port  Hope. 

The  Committee  recommend  that,  notwithstanding  Rule  51  of  this  Hon- 
ourable House,  the  time  for  receiving  Reports  from  Committees  on  Private 
Bills  be  extended  to  and  inclusive  of  Friday  the  fourth  day  of  March  next. 


Ordered,  That  the  time  for  presenting  Petitions  for  Private  Bills,  be 
further  extended  until  and  inclusive  of  Friday  the  Twenty-fifth  day  of  Feb- 
ruary, instant. 

Ordered,  That  the  time  for  receiving  Reports  from  Committees  on  Private 
Bills  be  extended  until  and  inclusive  of  Friday  the  Fourth  day  of  March  next. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill  (No.  55),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  levying  and  collecting  Tolls 
on  the  Mississippi  River."     Mr.  Preston  (Lanark.) 

Referred  to  the  Private  Bills  Committee. 


Edw.  VII.  23RD  FEBRUARY.  121 


Bill  (No.  41),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  Brantford  and 
the  John  H.  Stratford  Hospital."     Mr.  Brewster. 

Referred  to  the  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  50),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Lac  Seul,  Rat  Portage 
and  Keewatin  Railway  Company."     Mr.  Machin. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 

Bill  (No.  29),  intituled  "  An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  2116  of  the  City 
of  St.  Catharines."     Mr.  Jessop. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  26),  intituled  "An  Act  to  authorize  Lester  McDonnell  Coulter 
to  practfse  Medicine  in  the  Province  of  Ontario."     Mr.  McPherson. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  99),  intituled  "An  Act  to  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the 
Town  of  Cobalt  and  the  Township  of  Coleman."     Mr.  Shillington. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  59),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  Toronto."     Mr. 
Shaw. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill   (No.  49),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  Iron  Range  Railway 
Company."     Mr.  Smellie. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 

Bill  (No.  51),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  Morrisburg  Electric  Rail- 
way Company."     Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville.) 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 

Bill  (No.  93),  intituled  "  An  Act  to  amend  an  Act  respecting  the  Town- 
ship of  York."     Mr.  McCowan. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  39),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Brampton." 
Mr.  Charters. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 


122  2 3RD  FEBRUARY.  1910 


Bill  (No.  28),  intituled  "An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Hamilton  School  of 
Anatomy."     Mr.  Wilson. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill    (No.    53),    intituled    "An    Act    respecting   the    City    of    Ottawa." 
Mr.  Fripp. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill   (No.  42),  intituled  "An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  2126  of  the 
City  of  St.  Catharines  and  the  Agreement  therein  mentioned."     Mr.  Jessop.  - 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill   (No.  48),  intituled  "An  Act  to  incorporate  Artesian  Water  Com- 
pany, Limited."     Mr.  Godfrey. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  36),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  Monarch  Fire  Insurance 
Company,  Cash,  Mutual  and  Stock."     Mr.  Neely. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill    (No.   38),   intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  Hamilton," 
Mr.  Hendrie. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill    (No.   46),   intituled   "  An   Act   respecting  the   City   of  Windsor." 
Mr.  Preston  (Durham.) 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill.  (No.  58),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Young  Men's  Christian 
Association  of  Woodstock,  Ontario."     Mr.  Mackay  (Oxford.) 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  27),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  By-law  No.  663  of  the  Town 
of  Barrie."     Mr.  Thompson  (Simcoe.) 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  163),  intituled  "An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Hurontario  Rail- 
way Company."     Mr.  Thompson   (Simcoe.) 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 


tiaw.  VII.  #3RD  FEBRUARY.  123 


Bill  (No.  178),  intituled  "  An  Act  to  amend  the  Workmen's  Compensation 
Act."     Mr.  Eraser. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  179),  intituled  "The  Municipal  Drainage  Act."     Mr.  Hanna. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


Mr.  Machin  asked  the  following  Question : 

(1)  Has  the  Attorney-General  received  any  communication  from  one  W. 
W.  Baby  with  reference  to  reimbursing  said  BaBy  for  certain  Law  Costs  paid 
by  him  in  the  suit  of  the  Attorney-General  of  Ontario  vs.  Cameron.  (2)  If 
so,  has  the  matter  been  considered.  (3)  What,  if  any,  relief  will  be  granted 
the  said  Baby. 

To  which  the  Attorney-General   replied  in  the  words  following: — 

(1)  Yes.  (2)  This  matter  was  considered  in  January  1903,  by  the  then 
Attorney-General,  when  it  was  determined  that  Mr.  Baby  should  not  be  in- 
demnified by  the  Crown  in  respect  of  any  costs.  The  matter  was  further  con- 
sidered in  May  1906,  by  the  present  Attorney-General,  when  the  conclusion 
was  reached  that  there  was  no  ground  or  reason  why  the  Government  should 
make  Mr.  Baby  any  compensation  or  give  him  any  allowance.  (3)  In  view 
of  the  above  the  case  does  not  seem  to  call  for  any  relief. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time: — 

Bill    (No.   86),   To  amend   the  Act  for  the  protection  of  Sheep  and  to 
impose  a  Tax  on  Dogs. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on   Agriculture  and  Colonization. 

Bill   (No.  98),  To  amend  the  Public  Health  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill   (No.  Kif)),  To  amend  the   Ditches  and  Watercourses  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill   (No.  96),  To  amend  the  Division  Courts  Act. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Bill   (No.  116),  Re- 
specting Division  Courts. 


124  23RD  AND  24TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 

Bill  (No.  88),  The  Ontario  Telephone  Act,  1910. 
Referred  to  a  Select  Committee  to  be  hereafter  named. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  68),  To  amend 
the  Division  Courts  Act  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 


On  motion  of  Sir  James  Whitney,  seconded  by  Mr.  Foy. 

Resolved,  That  when  this  House  adjourns  To-day,  it  do  stand  adjourned 
until  Four  of  the  Clock  of  To-morrow  the  Twenty-fourth  day  of  February, 
instant. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  5  P.M. 


Thursday,  24th  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  4  O'Clock,  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up   and  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

By  Mr.  McNaught,  the  Petition  of  the  Bakers'  and  Confectioners'  Inter- 
national Union,  of  Toronto. 

By  Mr.  Grigg,  the  Petition  of  Town  Council  of  Blind  River. 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received: — 

Of  the  Board  of  Trade,  Guelph,  praying  for  certain  Legislation  respecting 
accidents  at  level  crossings  on  railways. 

Of  the  City  Council  of  Toronto,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  authorizing 
the  payment  of  $200,000  towards  the  Toronto  General  Hospital  site. 


Edw.  VII.  24TH  FEBRUARY.  125 


Mr.  Hendrie,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Railways,  presented  their 
Second  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and  have 
prepared  certain  amendments  thereto  respectively:  — 


.   37),  To  incorporate  the  Toronto,  Haliburton  and  Pembroke 
Railway  Company. 

Bill   (No.   30),  Respecting  the  Dunnville,  Wellandport  and  Beamsville 
Electric  Railway  Company,  and 

Bill  (No.  35),  Respecting  the  North  Midland  Railway  Company. 

The  Committee  have  also  amended  the  Preambles  to  the  said  Bills  so  as 
to  make  the  same  conform  with  the  facts  as  they  appear  to  the  Committee. 


Mr.   Lucas,   from  the   Standing  Committee  on   Private  Bills,   presented 
their  Fourth  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bill  and  report  the 
same  without  amendment: — 

Bill  (No.  40),  Respecting  the  St.  Thomas  Street  Railway. 

The  Committee  have  also  carefully  considered  the  following    Bill    and 
report  the  same  with  certain  amendments : — 

Bill  (No.  2),  To  confirm  By-law  502  of  the  Town  of  Campbellford. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  the  time  for  introducing  Private  Bills  be 
extended  to,  and  inclusive  of,  Tuesday,  the  First  day  of  March,  1910. 


Ordered,  That  the  time  for  introducing  Private  Bills  be  further  extended 
until,  and  inclusive  of,  Tuesday,  the  First  day  of  March  next. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time : — 

Bill  (No.  52),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  and  consolidate  the  Acts  incor- 
porating the  Fort  Erie  Ferry  Railway  Company,  and  to  change  the  name 
thereof  to  the  Buffalo  and  Fort  Erie  Ferry  and  Railway  Company."  Mr. 
McPherson. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 


126  MTH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


Bill  (No.  171),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Registration  of  Instru- 
ments relating  to  Lands."     Mr.  Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  180),  intituled  "An  Act  to  repeal  the  Act  respecting  the  Manu- 
facture and  Sale  of  Bread."     Mr.  McNaught. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  181),  intituled,  "An  Act  respecting  Mortmain  and  the  Disposi- 
tion of  Land  for  Charitable  Uses."     Mr.  Lennox. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  182),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Assessment  Act."     Mr. 
Fripp. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  183),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  Statute 
Labour."     Mr.  Hearst. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  146),  Respecting 
Liens  of  Mechanics,  Wage-earners  and  others,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to* a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly .  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee ;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Ferguson 
(Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  130),  Respecting 
the  Surrogate  Courts,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson 
(Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  24TH  FEBRUARY.  127 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  third  time  and  passed : — 
Bill  (No.  4) ,  To  incorporate  the  Nickel  Kange  Kailway  Company. 

Bill  (No.  10),  Eespecting  the  Western  Central  Railway  Company. 
Bill  (No.  11),  To  incorporate  the  Wahnapitae  Railway  Company. 

Bill  No.  13),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Bruce  Mines  and  Algoma 
Railway  Company. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time  :— 
Bill  (No.  172),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  19),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  2106  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines 
and  the  Agreement  thereunto  annexed. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  23),  Respecting  the  Estate  of  Charles  Northcote. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  24),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Niagara  and  Henry  Winnett. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  25),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Port  Hope. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  12), 
Respecting  the  Trustees  of  the  Toronto  General  Burying  Grounds,  and  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hoyle 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain 
amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


128  24TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  90),  Respecting 
Vaccination  and  Inoculation,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  64),  To  amend 
the  High  Schools  Act,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  76),  To  amend 
the  Municipal  Act,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  69),  To  regu- 
late the  purchase,  sale  and  transfer  of  stocks  of  goods  in  bulk,  having  been 
read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  85),  To  amend 
the  Public  Schools  Act,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  87),  To  amend 
the  High  Schools  Act,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 


Mr.  Stock  asked  the  following  Question : 

Has  the  Government  considered  the  advisability  (when  next  publishing 
the  Statutes  of  the  Province  upon  the  completion  of  the  Revision  thereof  by 
the  Statute  Revision  Commission)  of  publishing  in  Separate  volume  the  follow- 
ing Acts,  viz: — The  Municipal  Act;  the  Assessment  Act;  the  Drainage  Act; 
the  Ditches  and  Watercourses  Act,  and  the  Public  Health  Act,  for  the  con- 
venience of  Members  of  Municipal  Councils,  Municipal  Officers  and  other  per- 
sons who  may  wish  to  acquaint  themselves  with  the  laws  pertaining  to  Municipal 
affairs.  If  so,  what  is  the  Government's  decision. 

And  the  Attorney  General  replied, 

Yes.     Each  of  the  Acts  referred  to,  will  be  published  in  pamphlet  form. 


Edw.  VII.  24TH  AND  25TH  FEBRUARY.  129 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Lucas,  seconded  by  Mr.  Duff, 

Resolved,  That  the  following  members  do  compose  the  Select  Committee 
ordered  by  this  House  on  Bill  (No.  88),  The  Ontario  Telephone  Act,  1910: 
Messieurs  Lucas,  Charters,  Brewster,  Eilber,  Ferguson  (Grenville),  Proud- 
foot  and  Mayberry. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  6  P.M. 


Friday,   25th   February,   19iO. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'Clock,  P.M. 

Mr.  Speaker  informed  the  House, 

That  the  Clerk  had  received  from  the  Railway  and  Municipal  Board 
appointed  to  enquire  into  Bills  for  the  consolidation  of  a  floating  debt,  or,  for 
the  consolidation,  or  renewal,  of  debentures    (other  than  local  improvement 
debentures),  of  a  Municipal  Corporation,  their  Report  in  the  following  case: — 

Bill  (No.  7),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Penetanguishene. 

The  Report  was  then  read  by  the  Clerk,  at  the  Table,  as  follows  :— 
To  the  Honourable  the  Legislative  Assembly  of  the  Province  of  Ontario. 

The  undersigned  have  had  under  consideration  Bill  (No.  7),  intituled 
"An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Penetanguishene"  and  the  Petition  therefor. 

The  Board  have  made  enquiry  into  the  allegations  set  out  in  the  Bill  and 
into  all  other  matters  whi<^  the  Board  deem  necessary  in  connection  therewith, 
and  beg  to  report  that  it  ij  reasonable  that  such  Bill  do  pass  into  law. 

Dated  this  Twenty-fifth  day  of  February,  1910. 

JAMES  LEITCH,  Chairman. 
A.  B.  INGRAM,  Vice-Chairman- 
Ordered,  That  Bill   (No.  7),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Penetanguishene, 
be  referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills,  with  instructions  to  consider 
the  same   with  reference  to  the  suggestions  of  the  Railway  and  Municipal 
Board  thereon. 


130  25TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up   and  laid  upon  the 
Table:— 

"By  Mr.  Racine,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Osgoode ;  also, 
the  Petition  of  the  Town  Council  of  Rockland. 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received: — 

Of  the  Bakers7  and  Confectioners'  International  Union,  of  Toronto ;  also, 
of  the  Town  Council  of  Blind  River,  severally  praying  for  certain  amendments 
to  the  Assessment  Act,  respecting  the  Taxation  of  Farm  Buildings. 


Mr.  Hoyle,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  presented 
their  Tenth  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  examined  the  following  Petitions  and  find 
the  Notices,  as  published,  in  each  case  sufficient: — 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Durham,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to 
confirm  By-law  No.  568,  guaranteeing  the  Bonds  of  the  McGowan  Milling 
Company  to  the  extent  of  $15,000. 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Trenton,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  authorizing 
the  Corporation  to  purchase  and,  if  necessary,  expropriate  the  property  of  the 
Trenton  Electric  and  Water  Company,  Limited,  and  to  issue  debentures. 

Of  Francis  R.  Lalor  and  others,  of  Dunnville,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  to  incorporate  the  Niagara  Falls,  Welland  and  Dunnville  Electric  Railway 
Company. 

Of  the  Cobalt  Lake  Mining  Company,  Limited,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  authorizing  the  Company  to  reduce  the  Capital  Stock  from  $5,000,000 
to  $3,500,000. 

Of  the  Toronto  Suburban  Railway  Company,  praying  that  an  Act  may 
pass  authorizing  an  extension  of  the  line  and  for  other  purposes. 

Of  the  Young  Men's  Christian  Association,  of  Port  Arthur,  praying  that 
an  Act  may  pass  incorporating  them,  confirming  conveyance  of  property  and 
exempting  same  from  taxation. 


Edw.  VII.  25TH  FEBRUARY.  131 


Mr.  Hoyle,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  presented 
their  Eleventh  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  examined  the  Petition  of  the  City  Council 
of  Port  Arthur,  praying  that  an  Act  may  pass  to  abolish  the  Electric  Railway 
and  Light  Commission;  to  ratify  and  confirm  certain  By-laws  and  for  other 
purposes,  and  find  that  notice  of  an  application  to  this  Legislature  at  its  present 
Session,  by  the  said  City  of  Port  Arthur,  has  appeared  a  sufficient  length  of 
time  in  the  "Ontario  Gazette,"  and  have  had  evidence  produced  before  them 
shewing  that  the  notice  has  also  appeared  in  a  newspaper  published  in  the 
City  of  Port  Arthur. 

The  Committee  find,  that  the  Petition  amongst  other  things  asks  "To 
ratify  and  confirm  all  the  Assessment  and  Collectors  Rolls  and  all  Tax  Sales 
of  the  City  of  Port  Arthur  up  to  date,"  and  of  this,  no  mention  is  made  in  the 
notice. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  when  the  Bill,  founded  on  this  Petition, 
comes  before  the  Private  Bills  Committee,  their  attention  be  directed  to  the 
insufficiency  of  notice  in  this  particular. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time : — 

Bill  (No.  56),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Durham."     Mr. 
Jamieson. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  57),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Trenton."     Mr. 
Johnson. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  45),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  Port  Arthur." 
Mr.  Carrick. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill   (No.    54),    intituled  "An  Act    to    incorporate    the    Young    Men's 
Christian  Association,  Port  Arthur."     Mr.  Carrick. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  170),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Toronto  Suburban  Rail- 
way Company."     Mr.  Downey. 

i 
Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 


132  25TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 

Bill  (No.  173),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Cobalt  Lake  Mining 
Company,  Limited."     Mr.  Lennox. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill  (No.  184),  intituled  "An  Act  to  prevent  Procreation  of  Confirmed 
Criminals,  Idiots,  Imbeciles  and  Rapists."     Mr.  Godfrey. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  185),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act."     Mr. 
Pearce. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  186),  intituled  "The  Ontario  Medical  Amendment  Act,  1910." 
Mr.  Preston  (Lanark.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  187),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Charity  Aid  Act."     Mr. 
Fripp. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

^  i! 

Bill  (No.  188),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Light  and  Heat 
Act."     Mr.  McPherson. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  189),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Railway  and 
Municipal  Board  Act."     Mr.  McPherson. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  190),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act."     Mr. 
McPherson. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Studholme,  seconded  by  Mr.  Reed  (Wentworth), 

Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a  Return  shewing: — 1. 
How  many  Emigrants  the  Salvation  Army  brought  out  from  Great  Britain 
and  Ireland  during  the  season  of  1909.  2.  How  many  were  male  and  how 
many  female.  3.  How  many  were  placed  in  the  homes  of  the  farmers  of  the 
Province  of  Ontario.  4.  The  names  and  addresses  of  the  farmers.  Also 
shewing: — 1.  How  many  Emigrants  the  Government  of  this  Province  brought 
out  from  Great  Britain  and  Ireland  during  the  season  of  1909.  2.  How 


Edw.  VII.  25TH  FEBRUARY.  133 


many  were  male  and  how  many  female.  3.  How  many  were  placed  in  the 
homes  of  the  farmers  of  the  Province  of  Ontario.  4.  The  names  and  addresses 
of  the  farmers.  Also,  shewing: — 1.  How  many  farmers  the  Government  in- 
duced to  come  to  the  Province  of  Ontario  during  the  year  1909.  2.  How  many 
rented,  leased,  or  purchased  farms.  3.  How  many,  and  are  they  still  on  the 
farms.  4.  Shewing  any  who  took  up  Government  land,  and  if  so,  if  they 
purchased  it  or  acquired  it  on  the  homesteading  plan.  5.  The  names  and 
addresses  of  the  farmers. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Proudfoot,  seconded  by  Mr,  Stock, 

Ordered,,  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a  Return  shewing  the  total 
amount  paid  for  inspection  and  overseeing  work  done  on  and  building  of 
Colonization  roads  during  the  years  1908  and  1909. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Stock,  seconded  by  Mr.  McEwing, 

Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a  Return  shewing: — 1 
The  amount  of  Provincial  money  (if  any)  loaned  to  Municipalities  of  the 
Province  for  Drainage  purposes  during  each  of  the  years  1904  to  1909,  both 
inclusive.  2.  The  names  of  the  Municipalities  and  the  amount  loaned  to  each 
in  each  of  the  said  years.  3.  The  rate  of  interest  charged  the  Municipalities, 
if  other  than  four  per  cent.  4.  The  Special  Grants  (if  any)  given  to  Munici- 
palities for  Drainage  Schemes  during  the  said  years,  the  names  of  the  Munici- 
palities to  which  given  and  the  amount  given  each. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Proudfoot,  seconded  by  Mr.  Kohler, 

Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a  Return  shewing: — 1. 
When  the  resignation  of  the  late  Game  Warden,  T.  A.  Hand,  was  accepted. 
Was  it  voluntary,  or  was  he  forced  to  resign.  2.  What  moneys  had  been  col- 
lected by  the  said  Hand  and  not  accounted  for  or  returned  and  if  Fishermen 
had  fished  and  Hunters  had  hunted  on  receipts  only  given  by  the  said  Hand. 
If  so,  the  amount  of  money  unaccounted  for  and  the  number  of  such  receipts 
given  and  to  whom,  together  with  copies  of  all  correspondence  covering  the 
matters  referred  to  in  this  clause.  3.  All  correspondence  in  connection  with 
the  resignation  of  the  said  Hand.  4.  All  moneys  collected  by  the  said  Hand 
during  the  years  1907  and  1908  and  of  all  moneys  collected  by  the  present 
officer,  A.'  Calbeck,  during  the  year  1909,  together  with  the  names  of  the  per- 
sons from  whom  the  said  collections  were  made. . 


134  25TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 

The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time : — 

Bill  (No.  2),  To  confirm  By-law  "No.  502  of  the  Town  of  Campbellford. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  40),  Respecting  the  St.  Thomas  Street  Railway. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill   (No.  37),  To  incorporate  the  Toronto,  Haliburton  and  Pembroke 
Railway  Company. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill   (No.   30),  Respecting  the  Dunnville,  Wellandport  and  Beamsville 
Electric  Railway. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  35),  Respecting  the  North  Midland  Railway  Company. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  91),  To  amend 
the  Act  respecting  Solicitors,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  166),  To  amend 
the  Act  for  the  Improvement  of  Public  Highways,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  23), 
Respecting  the  Estate  of  Charles  Northcote,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  107), 
Respecting  Procedure  before  Justices  of  the  Peace  and  Summary  Convictions, 
and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr. 
Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report 
the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 


Edw.  VII.  25TH  AND  28TH  FEBRUARY.  135 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  160), 
To  amend  the  Judicature  Act,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  161), 
To  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Property  of  Keligious  Institutions,  and  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson 
(Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill 
with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  4.05  P.M. 


Monday,  28th  February,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  2.30  O'Clock  P.M. 

Mr.  Speaker  informed  the  House, 

That  the  Clerk  had  received  from  the  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills, 
their  Report  in  the  following  case: — 

Bill  (No.  41),  Respecting  the  City  of  Brantford  and  the  John  H.  Strat- 
ford Hospital. 

The  Report  was  then  read  by  the  Clerk,  at  the  Table,  as  follows: — 
To  the  Honourable  the  Legislative  Assembly  of  the  Province  of  Ontario. 

The  undersigned  have  perused  Bill  (No.  41),  intituled  "An  Act  respect- 
ing the  City  of  Brantford  and  the  John  H.  Stratford  Hospital  and  have  the 
honour  to  report  thereon  as  follows: 


136  28TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


1.  If  the  late  John  H.  Stratford,  the  Donor  of  the  Hospital,  left  a  widow 
or  children  it  is  reasonable  that  they  should  be  shewn  to  have  had  notice  of 
the  Bill  if  their  consent  is  not  obtained  thereto. 

2.  It  is  proposed  by  the  Bill  to  create  a  corporation  and  to  vest  the  abso- 
lute control  and  management  of  the  Hospital  and  of  its  property  and  of  the 
Staff  in  the  Board  of  Governors  but  the  property  mentioned  in  Donor's  deed 
of  gift  is  not  transferred  to,  or  vested  in  the,  corporation.     Presuming  that  it 
was  the  intention  that  this  should  be  done,  (and  it  would  seem  to  be  a  proper 
provision  in  order  to  avoid  confusion),  we  suggest  that  Section  2  should  be 
amended  for  the  purpose  as  shewn  in  the  foot  margin  of  the  Bill.     If  this 
was  not  the  intention,  the  amendment  may  be  disregarded. 

3.  Some  other  slight  verbal  amendments  in  the  language  of  the  Bill  are 
also  suggested. 

4.  Section  5  of  the  Bill  has  no  relation  to  its  principal  object  nor  is  its 
purpose  indicated  by  the  title  of  the  Bill.     It  is  a  clause  confirming  certain 
by-laws  of  the  City  of  Brantford  and  validating  debentures  and  agreements 
issued  and  made  thereunder  but  which  do  not  appear  to  have  anything  to  do 
with  the  Hospital  and  are  out  of  place  in.  the  Bill,  as  an  Estate  Bill.     This 
section  and  the  Schedule  B  should  be  omitted. 

5.  Subject  to  the  foregoing  and  assuming  the  allegations  in  the  Preamble 
to  be  proved  to  the  satisfaction  of  your  Honourable  House,  it  is  reasonable  that 
the  Bill  should  pass  into  law. 

6.  The  provisions  of  the  Bill,  with  the  changes  suggested  in  its  language, 
are  proper  for  carrying  its  purposes  into  effect. 

All  which  is  respectfully  submitted. 
February  28th,  1910. 

F.  OSLER,  J.A. 
J.  T.  GARROW,  J.A. 

Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills. 


Ordered,  That  Bill  (No.  41),  Eespecting  the  City  of  Brantford  and  the 
John  H.  Stratford  Hospital  be  referred  to  the  Committee,  on  Private  Bills  with 
instructions  to  consider  the  same  with  reference  to  the  suggestions  of  the  Com- 
missioners of  Estate  Bills  thereon. 


Edw.  VII.  28TH  FEBRUARY.  137 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received: — 

Of  the  Town  Council  of  Rockland;  also,  of  the  Township  Council  of  Os- 
goode  severally  praying  for  certain  amendments  to  the  Assessment  Act,  respect- 
ing the  Taxation  of  Farm  Buildings. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill    (No.  95),    intituled    "An    Act    respecting  the  City  of  Guelph."     Mr. 
Downey. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills. 

Bill   (No.   169),  intituled  "An  Act  to  incorporate  the   Niagara  Falls, 
Welland  and  Dunnville  Electric  Railway  Company."     Mr.  Fraser. 

Referred  to  the  Committee  on  Railways. 

Bill  (No.  191),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Town  Sites."     Mr.  Coch- 
rane. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  he  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  192),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act."     Mr. 
Brewster. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  193),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act."     Mr. 
Jessop. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  194),  intituled  "An  Act  to  authorize  and  regulate  the  use  of 
Traction  Engines  on  Highways."     Mr.  Brewster. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.' 195),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act."     Mr. 
McPherson. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  196),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Judicature  Act."     Mr. 
Foy. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Mr.  Studholme  asked  the  following  Question: 

1.   Are  the  figures  given  on  page  IX.  of  the  Report,  for  the  year  1909>  on 
Hospitals  for  the  Insane,  under  the  head  of  "Deportation"  reliabla     2.  If 


138  28TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 


so,  is  it  within  the  knowledge  of  the  Government,  or  the  officers  of  the  Depart- 
ment, as  to  who  was  responsible  for  the  sending  to  the  Province  of  the  several 
individuals  named.  3.  Give  names  and  addresses  of  such  agents,  or  persons, 
and  state  whether  authorized,  or  not,  and  by  whom. 

To  which  the  Provincial  Secretary  replied  in  the  words  following: — 

1.   The  Report  for  the  year  1909  is  not  printed.     The  figures  given  on 
page  IX.  of  the  Eeport  for  1908,  are  correct.     2.  No.     3.  See  2. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee,  severally  to  consider  the  fol- 
lowing Bills : — 

Bill  (No.  19),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  2106  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines 
and  the  Agreement  thereunto  annexed. 

Bill  (No.  24),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Niagara. 

Bill  (No.  25),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Port  Hope. 

Bill  (No.  2),  to  confirm  By-law  No.  502  of  the  Town  of  Campbellford. 

Bill  (No.  40),  Respecting  the  St.  Thomas  Street  Railway. 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Clark  (Bruce)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  several  Bills  without  any 
Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bills  reported,  be  severally  read  the  third  time  To- 
morrow. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Proudfoot,  seconded  by  Mr.  MacKay  (Grey), 

Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a  Return  shewing:  1.  The 
names  of  the  gentlemen  who  compose  the  Commission  for  the  Revision  of  the 
Statutes.  2.  The  total  cost  of  the  Revision  of  date,  shewing  in  detail  the  persons 
to  whom  and  on  what  account  the  money  was  paid.  3.  When  the  Statutes  will 


Edw.  VII.  28TH  FEBRUARY.  139 


be  completed.     4.  What  steps  have  the  Government  taken  to  induce  or  insist 
on  the  Commissioners  completing  their  work  at  an  early  date. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time : — 

Bill  (No.  174),  To  revise  and  amend  the  Chartered  Accountants  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Legal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  175),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  180),  To  repeal  the  Act  respecting  the  Manufacture  and  Sale 
of  Bread. 

Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 


Sir  James  Whitney  delivered  to  Mr.  Speaker  a  Message  from  the  Lieu- 
^enant-Governor,  signed  by  himself;  and  the  said  Message  was  read  by  Mr. 
Speaker,  and  is  as  follows: — 

J.  M.  GIBSON. 

The  Lieutenant-Governor  transmits  further  Supplementary  Estimates  of 
certain  sums  required  for  the  service  of  the  Province  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1910,  and  recommends  them  to  the  Legislative  Assembly. 

GOVERNMENT  HOUSE, 

Toronto,.  February  28th,  1910. 

(Sessional  Papers,  No.  2.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Message  of  the  Lieutenant-Governor,  together  with  the 
Estimates  accompanying  same,  be  referred  to  the  Committee  of  Supply. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  again  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee 
of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That  there  be  granted  to  His  Majesty,  for  the  services  of  1909-10, 
the  following  sums: — 

207.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Civil  Government $3,000  00 


140                                                  28TH  FEBRUARY.  1910 

208.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Legislation $100  00 

209.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Administration  of  Justice 400  00 

210.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Local  Masters  of  Titles 986  70 

211.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Commutations  of  Fees 791  67 

212.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous 1,950  00 

213.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  District  of  Algoma 50  00 

214.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  District  of  Kenora 200  00 

215.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  and  Separate  School  Educa- 

tion      12,100  00 

216.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Ottawa  Normal  and  Model  Schools  50  00 

217.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  London  Normal  School 50  00 

218.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hamilton  Normal  School.  ...  60  00 

219.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Departmental  Library  and  Museum  100  00 

220.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Libraries,  Historical  and 

other  Societies   800  00 

221.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Institutions  for  Deaf  and  Dumb, 

Belleville 100  00 

222.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Institution  for  Blind,  Brantford.  .  550  00 

223.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Institutions  Maintenance.  .  150  00 

224.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Agricultural   and  Horticultural 

Societies    7,000  00 

225.  To  defray  the  expenses  6f  Live  Stock  Branch 3,225  00 

226.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Ontario  Veterinary  College.  .  200  00 

227.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Agriculture — Miscellaneous....  3,750  00 

228.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Ontario  Agricultural  College 800  00 

229.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Colonization  and  Immigration.  .  .  .  11,200  00 

230.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Hospitals  and  Charities 5,000  00 

231.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Maintenance  and  repairs  of  Govern- 

ment Buildings 8,400  00 

232.  To  defray  the  expenses  for  Government  House 125,000  00 

233.  To  defray  the  expenses  for  Colonization  and  Immigration.  .  .  .  445  71 

234.  To  defray  the  expenses  for  Hospital  for  Insane,  Mimico ....  200  00 

235.  To  defray  the  expenses  for  Hospital  for  Insane,  Penetangui- 

shene 400  00 

236.  To  defray  the  expenses  for  Hospital  for  Insane,  Hamilton.  .  .  12,000  00 

237.  To  defray  the  expenses  for  Hospital  for  Insane,  London.  .  .  .  25,000  00 

238.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Osgoode  Hall 50,000  00 

239.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Children's  Shelter 500  00 

240.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Ontario  Agricultural  College.  .  .  .  15,950  00 

241.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Eastern  Dairy  School 3,000  00 

242.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Hygienic  Building,  London 7,800  00 

243.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  London  Normal  School 90  00 

244.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Toronto  Normal  and  Model  Schools  625  00 

245.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Ottawa  Normal  and  Model  Schools  260  00 


Edw.  VII.  28TH  FEBRUARY.  141 


246.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Institution  for  Deaf  and  Dumb, 

Belleville $625  00 

247.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Thunder  Bay  District .  .  811  36 

248.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Sudbury  District 450  00 

249.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Nipissing  District 1,500  00 

250.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Muskoka  District 91  .71 

251.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Manitoulin  District 200  00 

252.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Works 37,940  00 

253.  To   defray   the   expenses   of   Colonization   Koads — Northern 

Division    121,907  00 

254.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Colonization  Roads — West  Division  28,050  00 

255.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Colonization  Roads — East  Division  69,146  50 

256.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Colonization  Roads — Temiskaming 

District 57,980  00 

257.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Colonization  Roads — General   .  .  187,273  49 

258.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Charges  on  Crown  Lands 3,350  00 

259.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous 4,975  00 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Clark  (Bruce)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  come  to  several  Resolutions ;  also,  That  the  Committee  had 
directed  him  to  ask  for  leave  to  sit  a^ain. 

O 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  To-morrow. 

Resolved,  That  the  Committee  have  leave  to  sit  again  To-morrow. 


Mr.  Hanna  presented  to  the  House,  Return  to  an  Order  of  the  House  of 
the  Seventh  day  of  February,  1910,  for  a  Return  shewing:  1.  A  copy  of  the 
advertisement  calling  for  tenders  for  the  printing,  publishing  and  supply  of 
"  Ontario  Readers " ;  2.  Copies  of  all  tenders  received ;  3.  Copies  of  corre- 
spondence between  the  Government  of  Ontario  or  any  official  thereof  and  any 
tenderer  or  tenderers;  4.  A  copy  of  the  contract  entered  into  on  behalf  of  the 
Government  for  the  printing,  publishing  and  supplying  of  "  Ontario  Readers  " ; 
5.  A  detailed  statement  of  the  cost  to  the  Government  of  supplying  to  the  pub- 
lisher electro-plates  for  each  reader.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  65.) 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  5.55  P.M. 


142  IST  MARCH.  1910 

Tuesday,  1st  March,  1910. 
PEAYEKS.  3  O'Clock,  P.M. 

The  following  Petition  was  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the  Table : — 
By  Mr.  Gamey,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Sandfield. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill   (No.  197),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Securities 
Act."     Mr.  Downey. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  198),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Kegistry  Act."     Mr. 
Craig. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  199),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act."     Mr. 
Eraser. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time: — 
Bill  (No.  183),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  Statute  Labour. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  185),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  186),  The  Ontario  Medical  Amendment  Act,  1910. 

Referred  to  a  Select  Committee  to  be  composed  as  follows: — Messieurs 
Pyne,  Smellie,  Ferguson  (Grenville),  McGarry,  Preston  (Durham),  Bowman, 
Tudhope,  Mackay  (Oxford),  Shaw,  Godfrey  and  Preston  (Lanark.) 

Bill  (No.  189),  To  amend  the  Ontario  Railway  and  Municipal  Board  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Railway  Committee. 


Edw.  VII.  IST  MARCH.  143 


Bill  (No.  176),  To  amend  the  Temiskaming  and  Northern  Ontario  Rail- 
way Act. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  171),  Respecting  the  Registration  of  Instruments  relating  to 
Lands. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  1ST),  To  amend 
the  Charity  Aid  Act  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

On  motion  of  Mr.  Reaume,  seconded  by  Mr.  Matheson. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  do  forthwith  resolve  itself  into  a*  Committee 
of  the  Whole,  to  consider  a  certain  proposed  Resolution  respecting  the  hon- 
orarium of  the  Chairman  of  the  Temiskaming  and  Northern  Ontario  Railway 
Commission  and  the  operation  and  extension  of  -the  Railway  line. 


Sir  James  Whitney  acquainted  the  House  that  His  Honour  the  Lieutenant- 
Governor,  having  been  informed  of  the  subject  matter  of  the  proposed  Resolu- 
tion recommends  it  to  the  consideration  of  the  House. 

The  House  then  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That  in  lieu  of  the  allowance  of  $3,500  per  annum  provided  for 
the  Chairman  of  the  Temiskaming  and  Northern  Ontario  Railway  Commission 
by  section  3  of  The  Temiskaming  and  Northern  Ontario  Railway  Act  the  Chair- 
man shall  receive  an  honorarium  at  the  rate  of  $5,000  per  annum. 

That  section  4  of  the  Act,  as  amended  by  section  2  of  the  Act  passed  in 
the  9th  year  of  His  Majesty's  Reign,  chaptered  18,  is  further  amended  by 
adding  thereto  the  following  section : 

(3)  The  Commission,  subject  to  the  approval  and  direction  of  the  Lieu- 
tenant-Governor  in  Council  may  construct  and  operate  an  extension  of  said  line 
of  railway  from  a  point  on  the  main  line  thereof  between  mileage  205  near 
Matheson  Station  and  mileage  228  in  the  Township  of  Calvert  in  a  westerly 
and  southwesterly  direction  to  a  point  on  or  near  the  Mattagami  River  in  the 
vicinity  of  the  Township  of  Mount  joy  in  the  District  of  Sudbury,  a  distance 
of  about  forty  miles ;  and  subject  as  aforesaid,  shall  have  and  may  exercise  the 
like  powers  with  respect  to  the  extension  authorized  by  this  subsection  as  it 
has  and  may  exercise  with  respect  to  the  railway  authorized  by  subsection  1. 


144  IST  MARCH.  1910 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  come  to  a  certain  Kesolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  now  received. 

Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported  the  Resolution  as   follows: — 

Resolved,  That  in  lieu  of  the  allowance  of  $3,500  per  cwnum  provided  for 
the  Chairman  of  the  Temiskaming  and  Northern  Ontario  Railway  Commission 
by  section  3  of  The  Temiskaming  and  Northern  Ontario  Railway  Act  the  Chair- 
man shall  receive  an  honorarium  at  the  rate  of  $5,000  per  annum. 

That  section  4  of  the  Act  as  amended  by  section  2  of  the  Act  passed  in 
the  9th  year  of  His  Majesty's  reign,  chaptered  18,  is  further  amended  by  adding 
thereto  the  following  subsection: — 

(3)  The  Commission,  subject  to  the  approval  and  direction  of  the  Lieu- 
tenant-Governor  in  Council,  may  construct  and  operate  an  extension  of  said  line 
of  railway  from  a  point  on  the  main  line  thereof  between  mileage  205  near 
Matheson  Station  and  mileage  228  in  the  Township  of  Calvert  in  a  westerly 
and  southwesterly  direction  to  a  point  on  or  near  the  Mattagami  River  in  the 
vicinity  of  the  Township  of  Mount  joy  in  the  District  of  Sudbury  a  distance  of 
about  forty  miles;  and  subject  as  aforesaid,  shall  have  and  may  exercise  the 
like  powers  with  respect  to  the  extension  authorized  by  this  subsection  as  it 
has  and  may  exercise  with  respect  to  the  railway  authorized  by  subsection  1. 

The  Resolution  having  been  read  the  second  time,  was  agreed  to,  and. 
referred  to  the  Committee  of  the  Whole  .House  on  Bill  (No.  176),  To  amend 
the  Temiskaming  and  Northern  Ontario  Railway  Act. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  130),  Respecting 
the  Surrogate  Courts  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson 
(Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


.    VII.  1ST   AND   2ND   MARCH.  145 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  142), 
Respecting  the  Registration  of  Partnerships  and,  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Air.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amend- 
ment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  4.30  P.M. 


Wednesday,  2nd  March,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK,  P.M. 

The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill  (No.  200),  intituled  "An  Act  to  further  amend  the  Pharmacy  Act." 
Mr.  Torrance. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  lo-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  201),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Railway  Act, 
1906."    Mr.  Brower. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  202),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Motor  Vehicles  Act." 
Mr.  Stock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  203),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  Industrial  Schools."     Mr. 
Hanna. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  204),  intitul.J  'An  Act  to  amend  the  Public  Schools  Act." 
Mr.  Innes. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill   (No.  205),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Truancy  Act."     Mr. 
Innes. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


146  SND  MARCH.  1910 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a   Committee,   severally  to  consider  the 
following  Bills " — 

Bill  (No.  37),  To  incorporate  the  Toronto,  Haliburton  and  Pembroke  Rail- 
way Company. 

Bill    (No.   30),  Respecting  the  Dunnville,  Wellandport  and   Beamsville 
Electric  Railway. 

Bill  (No.  35),  Respecting  the  North  Midland  Railway  Company. 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  several  Bills  without  any 
Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bills  reported,  be  severally  read  the  third  time  To- 
morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  184),  To 
Prevent  Procreation  of  Confirmed  Criminals,  .Idiots,  Imbeciles  and  Rapists 
having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  62),  To  prevent 
'the  spread  of  Pulmonary  and  other  forms  of  Tuberculosis  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 


Mr.  Clark  (Bruce),  reported  the  following  further  Resolutions  from  the 
Committee  of  Supply. 

207.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Three  thousand  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Civil  Government  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1910. 

208.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Legislation  for  the  year  ending  31st  October, 
1910. 

209.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Administration  of  Justice  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1910. 


Edw.VIL  2ND  MARCH.  147 


210.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Nine  hundred  and  eighty-six  dollars 
and  seventy  cents  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Local  Masters 
of  Titles  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

211.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Seven  hundred  and  ninety-one  dollars 
and  sixty-seven  cents  be  granted  to*  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Com- 
mutation of  Fees  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

212.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  nine  hundred  and  fifty 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1910. 

213.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His 
Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  District  of  Algoma  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1910. 

214.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  District  of  Kenora  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1910. 

215.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twelve  thousand  one  hundred  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  and  Separate  School 
Education  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

216.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty 
to  defray  the  expenses  of  Ottawa  Normal  and  Model  Schools  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1910. 

217.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty 
to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  London  Normal  School  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1910. 

218.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Sixty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty 
to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hamilton  Normal  School  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1910. 

219.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to  His 
Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Departmental  Library  and  Museum  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1910. 

220.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eight  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to 
His   Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Libraries,   Historical   and   other 
Societies  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

221.  Resolved,     That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Institution  for  the  Deaf  and  Dumb,  Belleville, 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 


148  2ND  MARCH.  1910 


222.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Five  hundred  and  fifty  dollais  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Institution  for  the  Blind, 
Brantford,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

223.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  fifty  dollars  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Institutions  Maintenance 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

224.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Seven  thousand  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Agricultural  and  Horticultural  Societies  for 
the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

225.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Three  thousand  two  hundred  and 
twenty- five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Live  Stock 
Branch  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

226.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Ontario  Veterinary  College  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1910. 

227.  Resolved,  That  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  seven  hundred  and  fifty 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous  for  the 
year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

228.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eight  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Ontario  Agricultural  College  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1910. 

229.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eleven  thousand  two  hundred  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Colonisation  and  Immigration 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

230.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Five  thousand  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Hospitals  and  Charities  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1910. 

231.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eight  thousand  four  hundred  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Maintenance  and  Eepairs  of 
Government  Buildings  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

232.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  twenty-five  thousand 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Government  House  for 
year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

233.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  hundred  and  forty-five  dollars 
and  seventy-one  cents  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Coloniza- 
tion and  Immigration  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 


Edw.  VII.  2ND  MARCH.  149 


234:.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Hospital  for  Insane,  Mimico,  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1910. 

235.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Hospital  for  Insane,  Penetanguishene,  for 
the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

236.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twelve  thousand  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Insane,  Hamilton,  for  the 
year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

237.  Resolved,  That  a   sum  not  exceeding  Twenty-five    thousand    dollars  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Hospital  for  Insane,  London,  for 
the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

238.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fifty  thousand  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Osgoode  Hall  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1910. 

239.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Five  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Children's  Shelter  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1910. 

240.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fifteen  thousand  nine  hundred  and 
fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Ontario  Agri- 
cultural College  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

241.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Three  'thousand  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Eastern  Dairy  School  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1910. 

242.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Seven  thousand  eight  hundred  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Hygienic  Building,  London,  for 
the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

243.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Ninety  dollars  be  granted  to  His 
Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  London  Normal  School  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1910. 

244.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Six  hundred  and  twenty-five  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Toronto  Normal  and  Model 
Schools  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

245.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  hundred  and  si^cty  dollars  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Ottawa  Normal  and  Model  Schools 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 


150  2ND  MARCH.  1910 


246.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Six  hundred  and  twenty-five  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Institution  for  Deaf  and  Dumb, 
Belleville,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

247.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eight  hundred  and  eleven  dollars  and 
thirty-six  cents  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Thunder  Bay 
District  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

248.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  hundred  and  fifty  dollars  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Sudbury  District  for  the  year  end- 
ing 31st  October,  1910. 

249.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  five  hundred  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Nipissing  District  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1910. 

250.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Ninety-one  dollars  and  seventy-one 
cents  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Muskoka  District  for  thr 
year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

251.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Manitoulin  District  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1910. 

252.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Thirty-seven  thousand  nine  hundred 
and  forty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Works 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

253.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  twenty-one  thou- 
sand nine  hundred  and  seven  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the 
expenses  of  Colonization  Eoads,  North  Division,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October, 
1910. 

254.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twenty-eight  thousand  and  fifty  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Colonization  Roads,  West 
Division,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

255.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Sixty-nine  thousand  one  hundred  and 
for^r-six  dollars  and  fifty  cents  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of 
Colonization  Roads,  East  Division,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

256.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fifty-seven  thousand  nine  hundred 
and  eighty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Colonization 
Roads,  Temiskaming  District,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

257.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  eighty-seven  thou- 
sand two  hundred  and  seventy-three  dollars  and  forty-nine  cents  be  granted  to  His 


Edw.    VII.  2ND  AND  3RD  MARCH.  151 


Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Colonization  Roads,  General,  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1910. 

258.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Three  thousand  three  hundred  and 
fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Charges  on  Crown 
Lands  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

259.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  thousand  nine  hundred  and 
seventy- five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 


The  several  Resolutions,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  concurred 
in. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Pyne,  seconded  by  Mr.  Matheson, 

Ordered,  That  Bill  (No.  64),  To  amend  the  High  Schools  Act,  discharged 
from  the  Order  Paper  on  the  24th  day  of  February  last,  be  restored  thereto 
'and  that  the  same  be  read  the  second  time  forthwith. 

The  Bill  was  then  read  the  second  time  and  referred  to  a  Committee  of 
the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  5.55  P.M. 


Thursday,  3rd  March,  1910 
PRAYERS.  3  O'Clock,  P.M. 

Mr.  Lucas  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Private  Bills  presented  their 
Fifth  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and  report 
the  same  without  amendment: — 

Bill  (No.  6),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Barrie.     . 


152  SRD  MARCH.  1910 


Bill  (No.  58),  Respecting  the  Young  Men's  Christian  Association,  Wood- 
stock. 

Bill  (No.  5),  To  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  Township  of  Tay 
,and  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Company  of  Canada. 

Bill   (No.  32),  Respecting  the  Township  of  Tay. 

The  Committee  have  also  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and 
report  the  same  with  certain  amendments: — 

Bill  (No.  55),  Respecting  the  levying  and  collecting  of  Tolls  on  the 
Mississippi  River. 

Bill  (No.  26),  Authorizing  Lester  McDonell  Coulter  to  practice  Medicine 
in  Ontario. 

Bill  (No.  22),  Respecting  the  City  of  Peterborough. 

Bill  (No.  27),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  663  of  the  Town  of  Barrie. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  the  fees,  less  the  actual  cost  of  printing, 
be  remitted  on  Bill  (No.  9),  To  incorporate  the  City  of  Berlin,  the  same  having 
been  withdrawn  by  the  promoters  thereof. 


Ordered,  That  the  fees,  less  the  actual  cost  of  printing,  be  remitted  on  Bill 
(No.  9),  Town  of  Berlin. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill   (No.  206),  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the  Executive  Council." 
Sir  James  Whitney. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  207),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Local  Municipal  Tele- 
phone Act,  1908."     Mr.  Eilber. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  208),  intituled  "  An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Law 

Society  of  Upper  Canada."     Mr.  Brewster. 

i 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  3RD  MARCH.  153 

The  .following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  third  time  and  passed : — 
Bill   (No.  108),  Kespecting  the  Lieutenant-Governor  and  His  Deputies. 

Bill  (No.  109),  Respecting  Appeals  to  His  Majesty  in  His  Privy  Council. 

Bill  (No.  110),  Respecting  the  Supreme  Court  of  Canada  and  the  Ex- 
chequer Court  of  Canada. 

Bill  (No.  114),  To  authorize  Police  Constables  to  take  Bail. 

Bill  (No.  117),  Respecting  the  Legal  Meaning  of  Expressions  relative  to 
Time. 

Bill  (No.  120),  To  provide  for  the  payment  of  witnesses  of  the  Crown. 
Bill   (No.  121),  Respecting  Powers  of  Attorney. 

Bill   (No.   123),  Respecting  the  Rights  of  Aliens,  in  relation  to  Real 
Property. 

Bill    (No.    131),   Respecting  Vendors   and   Purchasers  and  to   Simplify 
Titles. 

Bill  (No.  136),  To  restrain  the  Accumulation  of  the  Profits  or  Produce, 
of  Real,  or  Personal  Estate. 

Bill  (No.  Ill),  Respecting  the  Judges  of  the  Supreme  Court  of  Judicature 
for  Ontario. 

Bill   (No.  125),  To  provide  for  the  better  Government  of  that  part  of 
Ontario,  situated  in  the  vicinity  of  the  Falls  of  Niagara. 

Bill  (No.  126),  Respecting  Petty  Trespasses. 

Bill   (No.   148),  Respecting  Commissioners  of  Police  appointed  by  the 
Government  of  Canada. 

Bill  (No.  102),  To  establish  Forest  Reserves. 

Bill  (No.  112),  Respecting  the  Bureau  of  Labour. 

Bill  (No.  101),  Respecting  Riots  near  Public  Works. 

Bill  (No.  157),  Respecting  the  Clergy  Reserves  and  the  Upper  Canada 
Grammar  School  Lands. 


154  SRD  MARCH.  1910 

Bill  (No.  124),  Respecting  the  Right  of  Property  in  Swarms  of  Bees. 
Bill  (No.  31),  Respecting  the  City  of  London. 

Bill  (No.  12),  Respecting  the  Trustees  of  the  Toronto  General  Burying 
G  rounds. 

Bill  (No.  160),  To  amend  the  Judicature  Act. 

Bill  (No.  161),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Property  of  Religious 
Institutions. 

Bill  (No.  23),  Respecting  the  Estate  of  Charles  Northcote. 

Bill   (No.  24),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Niagara. 

Bill  (No.  25),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Port  Hope. 

Bill  (No.  2),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  502  of  the  Town  of  Campbellford. 

Bill  (No.  40),  Respecting  the  St.  Thomas  Street  Railway. 

Bill   (No.  37),  To  incorporate  the  Toronto,  Haliburton  and  Pembroke 
Railway  Company. 

Bill    (No.   30),  Respecting  the  Dunnville,  Wellandport  and  Beamsville 
Electric  Railway. 

Bill  (No.  35),  Respecting  the  North  Midland  Railway  Company. 


The  following  Bill  was  read  the  third  time : — 

Bill  (No.  122),  Adopting  the  Law  of  England  in  Certain  Matters. 

Resolved,  That  the  Bill  do  pass  and  be  intituled  "  An  Act  respecting  the 
Application  of  the  Law  of  England  in  Certain  Matters." 


The  following  Bill  was  read  the  third  time: — 

Bill  (No.  19),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  2106  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines 
and  the  Agreement  thereunto  annexed. 


Edw.  VII.  3RD  MARCH.  155 


Resolved,  That  the  Bill  do  pass  and  be  intituled  "  An  Act  to  confirm  By- 
law No.  2106  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines." 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time: — 
Bill  (No.  191),  Kespecting  Town  Sites. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  192),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 

Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill    (No.   195),   To   amend  the  Municipal   Act. 

Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  196),  To  amend  the  Judicature  Act. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  179),  The  Municipal  Drainage  Act. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  178),  To  amend 
the  Workmen's  Compensation  Act,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  he  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  194),  To  autho- 
rize and  regulate  the  use  of  Traction  Engines  on  Highways,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 


Mr.  Studholme  asked  the  following  Question: 

(1)  HSow  many  domestic  servants  'did  J.  W.  Rigby  send  to  the  Province 
during  the  year  1909.  (2)  Names  of  the  same.  (3)  Where  from.  (4) 
Present  address  as  far  as  they  can  be  obtained. 


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SRD  MARCH. 


1910 


To  which  the  Minister  of  Agriculture  replied  in  the  words  following: 
(1)  Sixty. 

DOMESTIC    SERVANTS   SENT   TO   THE   PROVINCE   OF   ONTARIO   DURING   1909 

BY   J.   W.    KlOBY. 


Name. 
Ramsey,  Jane. 


From 

Belfast. 


Calling. 


Employer. 


Housekeeper,       General  Hospital, 
General  Maid.         Niagara  Falls,  Ont. 


McCann,  Minnie. 

Miller,  Lizzie. 

McDonald,  Catherine,  Belfast,  General. 


Clinnan,  Lottie.  Belfast. 


Belfast.  General.  Mrs.  Lambe, 

Scarborough. 
Belfast.  Dairy  Maid.       Mrs.  McKenzie, 

Kirkfield. 
Mrs.  Williams, 

Eglinton. 
Pollock,  Lizzie.  Ralaminny.     Housemaid.         Mrs.Mann, 

Scarborough   Cliff. 
Parlourmaid.       Mrs.  F.  Grassett, 
208  Simcoe  St. 


Toronto. 


Charlotte,  Lucy. 
Carolan,  Minnie. 


Kenny,  Annie.    • 
Gaston,  Maggie. 

Davidson,  Assies. 
Bell,   Emma. 

ReiH.   Bella. 


Belfast.  Nurse.  Went  to  brother. 

Belfast.  General.  Mrs.   Percival  Browne, 

107  Woodlawn  Ave., 

Toronto. 
Belfast.  General.  Mrs.  Gibson, 

Government  House. 
Belfast.  Good  Cook.         Mrs.  Scott, 

4  Dale  Ave., 

Toronto. 
Belfast.  Housemaid.          Ont.  Ladies'  College, 

Whitby. 
Armagh.          Housemaid.         Mrs.  Grasset, 

208  Simcoe  St. 

Toronto. 

Antrim.  House-  Mrs.  MacKenzie, 

Parlourmaid.       Kincardine. 


Magree,  Lizzie. 
Smythe,  Jennie. 


Ballymacard.  Farmer's 

daughter. 


Mr.  T.  Weir, 
Brown's  Corner. 


House  table.        Mrs.  W.  Ince, 

88  Prince  Arthur  Ave., 


Edw.  VII 


SRD  MARCH. 


157 


Name.  From  Calling. 

McClosky,  E.  Belfast.  Cook,  general. 

Crawley,  Minnie.  Belfast.  Housemaid. 

Marshall,  Agnes.  Belfast.  Housework. 


McK'ea.?.  Bella. 
Craig.  Sarah, 


Antrim. 
Larne, 
Ireland. 


Under  nurse. 
Cook- 
Housemaid. 


Waugh,  Frances.         Belfast.  General 


Boyd,  Susan. 


Belfast.  Housemaid. 


Clarke,  Nellie.  Belfast. 

Archbold,  Agnes.         Belfast. 


General. 
General. 


McKenniy,  Char.  Belfast.  Housework. 

Mills,  Lizzie.  Belfast.  General 

Lattimer,  Annie.  Dromore.  Housework. 

McCullough,  Annie.  Belfast.  General. 

Marshall,  Annie.  Belfast.  Housework. 

Harding,  Mrs.  Belfast.  Cook. 

Sciley,  Lizzie.  Co.  Derry.  Housework. 


Employer. 

Mrs.  Hugh  Wilson, 

Niagara  Falls,  Ont. 
Mrs.  Wm.  Brown, 
84  Walker  Ave., 

Toronto. 

Miss  MacDonald, 
Don  Crest, 
Eglinton. 


Mrs.  Strathy, 

102  Bedford  Rd., 
Toronto. 

Mrs.  Osier, 
Craigleigh, 
Toronto. 
Mrs.  Macklem, 
40  Glen  Road, 

Toronto. 
Mrs.  Hayes, 
Eglinton. 
Cottage  Hospital, 
•  84  Wellesley  St., 

Toronto. 

Rev.  Woodworth, 
Yorkville  Ave., 

Toronto. 
Mrs.  Rogers, 
Deer  Park. 
Mrs.   Vandervoort, 
46  Tyndal  Ave., 

Toronto. 
Mrs.  Rae, 

583  Spadina  Ave., 

Toronto. 
Mrs.  Denison, 
Heydon  Villa, 

Toronto. 
Mrs.  Strathy, 
102  Bedford  Rd, 

Toronto. 
Mrs.  Gillespie, 
88  Charles  St. 


Hamill,  Martha.          Belfast.  Cook,  general.     Mr.  Frank  Weir. 


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SRD  MARCH. 


1910 


Name. 

From 

Calling. 

Employer. 

Boyd,  Maggie. 

Belfast. 

Housework. 

Miss  Durand, 

Queenston,  Ont. 

Rogers,  Annie. 

Belfast. 

General. 

Mrs.  Blaikie, 

123  Empress  Crescent. 

Sloan,  Sydney. 

Belfast. 

Sewing  maid. 

Mrs.  Warren  Baldwin, 

91  Howland  Ave. 

Duncan,  Agnes. 

Belfast. 

Housemaid, 

nurse. 

Mrs.  Wrong, 

467  Jarvis  St. 

Burns,  Eliz. 

Belfast. 

Housemaid. 

Mrs.  Bryce, 

Heavy,  Molly. 

Wainwright, 

House- 

Eglingtcn. 

Belfast.  parlourmaid 


Weir,  Sarah. 
Lannon,  Bella. 
Cowan,  Annie. 
Walsh,  Mrs.  Mary. 

Walsh,  Sarah. 
(Daughter  11). 

Montgomery,  B. 
Shackles,  Caroline. 

Coyne,  Lilly. 
Murray,  Minnie. 
Thompson,  Mary. 
Costley,   Nellie. 
Galvary,  Mary. 

McCabe,  Alary  Jane. 
Morrow,  Annie. 
Thompson,  Sarah. 


Belfast. 

Kitchen  maid. 

Belfast. 

General. 

Belfast. 

Housemaid. 

Armagh. 

General. 

Armagh. 

Belfast. 
Belfast. 

General. 

Newcastle, 
Co.  Down. 
Ballagher. 

General. 
General. 

Belfast. 

General. 

Belfast. 

General. 

Donegal. 

General. 

Conthill, 
Kerry. 

Co.  Caven. 

General. 
General. 

Belfast 

General. 

Mrs.  C.  Jones, 
25  Queens  Park. 

, 
Mrs.  W.  McKenzie, 

Benvenuto. 
Miss  Col  em  an, 

476  Huron  St. 
Mrs.  Bond, 

88  Charles  St. 
Mrs.  J.  K.  Kerr, 

Rathnelly. 
Mrs.  J.  K.  Kerr, 

Rathnellv. 


Mrs.  Godfrey, 

95  Close  Ave. 
Mrs.  Greig, 

20  Crescent  Park. 
Mrs.  O'Meara, 

Wyckliffe  Col. 
Mrs.  Lambe, 

Fallingbrook. 
Mrs.  J.  Scott, 

4  Dale  Ave. 
Mrs.  O'Reilly, 

207  Balmoral  Ave. 
Mrs.   McDougall, 

20 B  Balmoral. 
Mrs.  H.  E.  Bond, 

88  Charles  St. 
Mrs.  Matthews, 

90  Elm  Ave. 


Edw.  VII. 


3RD  MARCH. 


159 


Name. 

From 

Calling. 

Employer. 

Baird,  Emily. 

Belfast. 

General. 

Lady  Clarke, 

303  Wellington  St. 

Verran,  Edith. 

Belfast. 

General. 

Mrs.  John  Cartwright, 

63  Avenue. 

Patterson  Nellie. 

Belfast. 

General. 

Mrs.  Taylor, 

119  Balmoral  Ed. 

Tinsley,  Clara. 

Belfast. 

General. 

Miss  Mowat, 

16  Spadina  Rd. 

Casey,  Kathleen. 

Belfast. 

General. 

Mrs.  G.  Cassels, 

265  Poplar  Plain. 

Brady,  Mary. 

Bangor, 

Co.  Down.  General. 
Thompson,  Mary.         Newtonards.  General. 


Stratford  Hospital, 
Brantford. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Johnson,  seconded  by  Mr.  McPherson, 

Ordered,.  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a  Return  shewing  what 
steps,  if  any,  the  Canadian  Northern  Ontario  Railway  Company  has  taken 
towards  the  building  of  a  section  of  the  Railway  into  the  clay  belt  of  Northern 
Ontario  in  aid  of  which  this  House  voted  to  the  Company  at  its  last  Session  a 
subsidy  of  four  thousand  acres  of  land  for  every  mile  of  the  Railway  which 
may  be  constructed  by  the  Company  on  certain  conditions  among  others  that 
operations  be  commenced  within  one  year  from  the  date  of  the  passing  of  the 
Act,  April  13th,  1909. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  168), 
To  amend  the  Landlord  and  Tenants  Act,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amend- 
ments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 
The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  140), 
Respecting  the  County  Courts  and  District  Courts,  and  after  some  time  spent 


160  3RD    AND   4TH    MARCH.  1910 


therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville) 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  made  some  progress,  and  directed  him  to 
ask  for  leave  to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  the  Committee  have  leave  to  sit  again  To-morrow. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  6.05  P.M. 


Friday,  4th  March,  1910. 
PBAYEBS.  3  O'Clock,  P.M. 

The  following  Petition  was  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the  Table: — 
By  Mr.  Doyle,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  West  Williams. 


Mr.  Hendrie,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Railways,  presented  their 
Third  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The    Committee    has    carefully   considered    the   following    Bills    and  has 
prepared  certain  amendments  thereto  respectively: — 

Bill  (No.  51),  Respecting  the  Morrisburg  Electric  Railway  Company. 

Bill  (No.  50),  Respecting  the  Lac  Seul,  Rat  Portage  and  Keewatin  Rail- 
way Company. 

Bill  (No.  49),  Respecting  the  Iron  Range  Railway  Company. 

Bill  (No.  163),  To  incorporate  the  Hurontario  Railway  Company. 

Bill  (No."  170),  Respecting  the  Toronto  Suburban  Railway  Company. 


Edw.  VII.  4TH  MARCH.  161 


The  Committee  has  also  amended  the  Preambles  to  the  said  Bills  so  as 
to  make  the  same  conform  with  the  facts,  as  they  appear  to  the  Committee. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  Rule  No.  51  of  your  Honourable  House 
be  further  suspended  in  this,  that  the  time  for  receiving  Eeports  of  Commit- 
tees relative  to  Private  Bills  be  further  extended  until  and  inclusive  of  Friday 
the  llth  dav  of  March  instant. 


Ordered,  That  the  time  for  receiving  Reports  of  Committees  on  Private 
Bills  be  further  extended  until  and  inclusive  of  Friday  the  eleventh  day  of 
March,  instant. 


Mr.  Clark  (Bruce),  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Printing,  presented 
their  First  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  the  following  Documents  be  printed: — 

Public  Accounts  of  the  Province  of  Ontario  for  the  ten  months  ended 
31st  October,  1909.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  1.) 

Supplementary  Estimates  for  1910.      (Sessional  Papers  JS o.  2.) 

Report  of  the  Inspector  of  Division  Courts,  for  the  year   1909.      (Ses- 
.sional  Papers  No.  5.) 

Report  of  the  Inspector  of  Insurance  and  Registrar  of  Friendly  Societies, 
for  the  year  1909.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  10.) 

Report  of  Registrar  of  Loan  Corporations,  for  the  year  1909.      (Sessional 
Papers  No.  11.) 

Report  of  the  Minister  of  Public  Works,  for  the  year  1909.      (Sessional 
Papers  No.  12.) 

Report  of  the  Game  and  Fisheries  Department,  for  the  year  1909.      (Ses- 
sional Papers  No.  13.) 

Report  on  Highway  Improvement,  for  the  year  1909.      (Sessional  Papers 
No.  14.) 


162  4TH  MARCH.  1910 

Report   of  the  Minister  of  Education,   for  the  year   1909.      (Sessional 
Papers  No.  16.) 

Report  of  the  University  of  Toronto,  for  the  year  ended  30th  June,  1909. 
ional  Papers  No.  17.) 


Report  of  the  Registrar  General,  for  the  year  1909.  (Sessional  Papers 
No.  19.) 

Report  of  the  Provincial  Board  of  Health,  for  the  year  1909.  (Sessional 
Papers  No.  20.) 

Report  of  the  Live  Stock  Associations,  for  the  year  1909.  (Sessional 
Papers  No.  39.) 

Report  of  the  Farmers'  Institutes,  for  the  year  1909.  (Sessional  Papers 
No.  40.) 

Report  of  the  Women's  Institutes,  for  the  year  1909.  (Sessional  Papers 
No.  41.) 

Report  of  the  Poultry  Institute,  for  the  year  1909.  (Sessional  Papers 
No.  42.) 

Report  of  the  Agricultural  Societies  and  of  the  convention  of  the  Ontario 
Association  of  Fairs  and  Exhibitions,  for  the  year  1909.  (Sessional  Papers 
No.  43.) 

Report  of  the  Temiskaming  and  Northern  Ontario  Railway  Commission, 
for  the  year  1909.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  47.) 

Report  of  the  Ontario  Railway  and  Municipal  Board,  for  the  year  1909. 
(Sessional  Papers  No.  49.) 

Return  from  the  Record  of  the  Elections  in  East  Victoria  and  North 
Middlesex.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  50.) 

Report  on  the  State  of  the  Library.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  52.) 

Agreement  and  Contract  with  William  Briggs  in  connection  with  the 
Printing  and  Binding  for  the  Legislative  Assembly.  (Sessional  Papers  No. 
53.) 

Agreement  and  Contract  with  E.  H.  Harcourt  Company,  Limited,  in 
connection  with  the  Binding,  etc.,  for  the  Legislative  Assembly.  (Sessional 
Papers  No.  54.) 


Edw.  VII.  4TH  MARCH.  163 


Keport  of  the  Milk  Commission.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  55.) 

Statements  of  the  Auditor  made  pursuant  to  the  provisions  of  the  Audit 
Act.     (Sessional  Papers  No.  57.) 

Pamphlet  re  The  Province  of  Ontario,  its  Climate,  Resources,  etc.,  etc. 
(Sessional  Papers  No.  60.)     For  distribution  only. 

Rules  and  Regulations  re  Succession  Duty  Act.      (Sessional  Papers  No. 
63.)      For  distribution  only. 

The  Committee  recommend  the  purchase  of  120  copies  of  "  The  Canadian 
Annual  Review  "  for  distribution  to  the  members  of  the  Legislative  Assembly. 


The  Committee  recommend  that  the  following  Documents  be  not  printed. 

Copies  of  Regulations  and  Orders  in  Council  re  Education.  (Sessional 
Papers  No.  56.) 

Return  re  Insurance  in  foreign  unregistered  Corporations.  (Sessional 
Papers  No.  58.) 

Copies  of  Orders  in  Council  re  Surrogate  Courts  Act  and  Land  Titles 
Act.  (Sessional  Papers  No.  59.) 

Copy  of  an  Order  in  Council  authorizing  payment  of  surplus  surrogate 
fees  to  Junior  Judge  of  the  County  Court  of  the  County  of  Simcoe.  (Sessional 
Papers  No.  61.) 

Return  re  Licenses  granted  to  Fishermen  in  1908  and  1909.  (Sessional 
Papers  No.  62.) 

Statement  on  the  Distribution  of  the  Revised  and  Sessional  Statutes. 
(Sessional  Papers  No.  64.) 

Return  re  Advertisement,  Tenders,  etc.,  for  "  Ontario  Readers."  (Ses- 
sional Papers  No.  65.) 

Resolved,  That  this  House  doth  concur  in  the  First  Report  of  the  Standing 
Committee  on  Printing. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill  (Xo.  309),  intituled,  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  for  the  Improve- 
ment of  Public  Highways."     Mr.  Elliott. 


164  4TH  MARCH.  1910 


Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  210),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Railway  Act, 
1906."     Sir  James  Whitney. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill   (No.  211),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Railway  and 
Municipal  Board  Act,   1906."     Sir  James  Whitney. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Lackner,  seconded  by  Mr.  Pattinson, 

Ordered,  That  Bill  (No.  18),  Respecting  the  Peoples'  Railway  Company, 
reported  against  on  the  Seventeenth  day  of  February  last,  be  recommitted  to 
the  Standing  Committee  on  Railways  for  further  consideration  and  report. 


On  motion  of  Mr.   Shaw,   seconded  by  Mr.  McPherson, 

Ordered,  That  the  reference  to  the  Standing  Committee  on  Private  Bills, 
of  Bill  (No.  59),  Respecting  the  City  of  Toronto,  on  Wednesday  the  Twenty- 
third  day  of  February  last,  be  discharged  and  that  instead  thereof  the  Bill  be 
referred  to  the  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills  for  their  consideration  and 
report  upon  a  certain  section  in  the  Bill  relating  to  the  ownership  of  Balmy 
Beach. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  third  time  and  passed : — 

Bill  (No.  103),  Respecting  the  Territorial  Division  of  Ontario  for  Muni- 
cipal and  Judicial  Purposes. 

Bill   (No.  132),  Respecting  Estreats. 

Bill   (No.  138),  Respecting  the  Assurance  of  Estates  Tail. 

Bill    (No.   141),  Respecting  Assignments  and  Preferences  by  Insolvent 
Persons. 

Bill   (No.  149),  To  Establish  a  Provincial  Park  at  Rondeau. 
Bill    (No.   105),  Respecting  Agricultural   Societies. 


Edw.  VII .  4TH  MARCH.  165 

Bill   (No.  106),  Kespecting  Horticultural  Societies. 

Bill  (No.  156),  Kespecting  Councils  of  Conciliation  and  of  Arbitration 
for  settling  Industrial  Disputes. 

Bill  (No.  144),  Eespecting  Agricultural  Associations. 

Bill  (No.  153),  To  secure  payment  of  Wages  for  Labour  performed  in 
the  Construction  of  Works. 

Bill   (No.  154),  Eespecting  Wages. 

Bill   (No.  159),  Eespecting  the  Department  of  Agriculture. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  155),  Eespecting 
Master  and  Servant  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee ;  and,  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Gren- 
ville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Elliott,  seconded  by  Mr.  Mackay  (Oxford.) 

Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a  Eeturn  of  a  copy  of  the 
Reports  relating  to  the  cause  of  the  fire  in  the  Parliament  Buildings. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  64), 
To  amend  the  High  Schools  Act  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  176), 
To  amend  the  Temiskaming  and  Northern  Ontario  Eailway  Act  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson 


166  4TH  MARCH.  1910 


(Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill 
with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time: — 

Bill    (No.   58),  Eespecting  the  Young  Men's   Christian  Association  of 
Woodstock,  Ontario. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  55),  Respecting  Levying  and  Collecting  Tolls  on  the  Mississippi 
River. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  26),  To  authorize  Lester  McDonnell  Coulter  to  Practice  Medi- 
cine in  the  Province  of  Ontario. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  22),  Respecting  the  City  of  Peterborough. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  197),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Securities  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (ISTo.  199),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (ISTo.  82),  To  amend 
the  Ontario  Game  and  Fisheries  Act,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 


Mr.  MacKay  (Grey)  asked  the  following  Question: 

(1)  When  was  the  road  from  Sudbury  to  Sault  Ste  Marie  commenced. 


Edw.  VI L  4TH  AND  7TH  MARCH.  167 


(2)  How  many  miles  of  the  road  have  been  completed  each  year  since.      (3) 
What  has  been  the  average  cost  per  mile  to  date.      (4)  What  sum  has  been 
spent  each  year  on  this  road.      (5)  Have  all  contracts  been  let  by  tender.      (6) 
If  any  contracts  have  been  let  without  tender,  the  names  of  the  contractors,  the 
amount  paid  to  each. 

To  which  the  Minister  of  Public  Works,  replied  in  the  words  and  figures 
following : — 

(1)  In  the  year  1907.  (2)  In  1908  82  miles  cut  out,  cleared  and 
stumped,  24  miles  graded,  with  concrete  culvert  work ;  in  1909  22  miles  graded, 
with  some  60  wooden  culverts,  concrete  tile  work  and  macadam  road  work. 

(3)  $956.81  per  mile.      (4)  1907,  $3,687.38;  1908,  $40,961.49;  1909,  $33,- 
809.62.      (5)  All  contracts  have  been  let  by  tender.     (6)  "No  contracts  have 
been  let  without  tender. 


Mr.   Hanna  presented  to  the  House,  by  command  of  His  Honour  the 
Lieutenant-Governor : — 

Report  of  the  Commissioners  for  the  Queen  Victoria  Niagara  Falls  Park 
for  the  yoar  1909.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  9.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Secretary  and  Registrar  of  the  Province  for  the 
year  1909.      (Sessional  Papers  No.  18.) 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  4.15  P.M. 


Monday,  7th  March,  1910. 

3  O'CLOCK  P.M. 

His  Honour  the  Lieutenant-Governor  proceeded  to  the  Chamber  of  the 
Legislative  Assembly  and  took  his  seat  upon  the  Throne. 

The  Clerk  Assistant  then  read  the  Titles  of  the  Acts  that  had  been  passed, 
severally,  as  follows : — 

No.   of  Bill. 

1.  An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  9  of  1909  of  the  Town  of  Thornbury. 

2.  An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  502  of  the  Town  of  Campbellford. 
4.     An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Nickel  Range  Railway  Company. 


168  ?TH  MARCH.  1910 

8.  An  Act  respecting  the  Oshawa  Young  Men's  Christian  Association. 

10.  An  Act  respecting  the  Western  Central  Railway  Company. 

11.  An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Wahnapitae  Railway  Company. 

12.  An  Act  respecting  the  Trustees  of  the  Toronto  General  Burying  Ground. 

13.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Bruce  Mines  and  Algoma  Rail- 

way Company. 

14.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  to  incorporate  the  Ottawa  Young  Men's  Christ- 

ian Association. 

15.  An  Act  respecting  the  St.  Thomas  Cemetery  Company. 
17.     An  Act  respecting  the  Estate  of  Blanche  Eleanor  Leslie. 

19.  An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  2106  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines. 

23.  An  Act  respecting  the  Estate  of  Charles  Northcote. 

24.  An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Niagara. 

25.  An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Port  Hope. 

30.     An  Act  respecting  the  Dunnville,  Wellandport  and  Beamsville  Electric 
Railway  Company. 


33.     An  Act  to  confirm  certain  By-laws  'and  an  Agreement  between  the  Town- 
ships of  Southwold  and  Yarmouth. 

- 

35.     An  Act  respecting  The  North  Midland  Railway  Company. 

.  An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Toronto,  Haliburton  and  Pembroke  Railway 
Company. 


40.     An  Act  respecting  the  St.  Thomas  Street  Railway. 

101.  An  Act  respecting  Riots  near  Public  Works. 

102.  An  Act  to  establish  Forest  Reserves. 

103.  An  Act  respecting  the  Territorial  Division  of  Ontario  for  Municipal  and 

Judicial  Purposes. 


Edw.  VII.  7TH  MARCH.  169 

105.  An  Act  respecting  Agricultural  Societies. 

106.  An  Act  respecting  Horticultural  Societies. 

108.  An  Act  respecting  the  Lieutenant-Governor  and  his  Deputies. 

109.  An  Act  respecting  Appeals  to  His  Majesty  in  His  Privy  Council. 

110.  An  Act  respecting  the  Supreme  Court  of  Canada  and  the  Exchequer 

Court  of  Canada. 

111.  An  Act  respecting  the  Judges  of  the  Supreme  Court  of  Judicature  for 

Ontario. 

112.  An  Act  respecting  the  Bureau  of  Labour. 

114.     An  Act  to  authorize  Police  Constables  to  take  Bail. 

120.     An  Act  to  provide  for  the  Payment  of  Witnesses  for  the  Crown. 

121c     An  Act  respecting  Powers  of  Attorney. 

122.  An  Act  respecting  the  Application  of  the  Law  of  England  in  Certain 

Matters. 

123.  An  Act  respecting  the  Rights  of  Aliens  in  relation  to  Real  Property. 

124.  An  Act  respecting  the  Rights  of  Property  in  Swarms  of  Bees. 

125.  An  Act  to  provide  for  the  better  Government  of  that  part  of  Ontario 

situated  in  the  Vicinity  of  the  Falls  of  Niagara. 

126.  An  Act  respecting  Petty  Trespasses. 

131.  An  Act  respecting  Vendors  and  Purchasers  and  to  Simplify  Titles. 

132.  An  Act  respecting  Estreats. 

136.     An  Act  to  restrain  the  Accumulation  of  the  Profits  or  Produce  of  Real 
or  Personal  Estate. 

138.     An  Act  respecting  the  Assurance  of  Estates  Tail. 

141.     An  Act  respecting  Assignments  and  Preferences -by  Insolvent  Persons. 

144.     An  Act  respecting  Agricultural  Associations. 


170  7TH  MARCH.  1910 


148.  An  Act  respecting  Commissioners  of  Police  appointed  by  the  Govern- 

ment of  Canada. 

149.  An  Act  to  establish  a  Provincial  Park  at  Kondeau. 

153.  An  Act  to  secure  Payment  of  Wages  for  Labour  performed  in  the  Con- 

struction of  Works. 

154.  An  Act  respecting  Wages. 

156.  An  Act   respecting   Councils   of   Conciliation   and   of   Arbitration   for 

Settling  Industrial  Disputes. 

157.  An  Act  respecting  the  Clergy  Reserves  and  the  Upper  Canada  Grammar 

School  Lands. 

159.  An  Act  respecting  the  Department  of  Agriculture. 

160.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Judicature  Act. 

161.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Property  of  Religious  Institu- 

tions. 


To  these  Acts  the  Royal  Assent  was  announced  by  the  Clerk  of  the  Legis- 
lative Assembly  in  the  words  following : — 

"In  His  Majesty's  name,  His  Honour  the  Lieutenant-Go vernor  doth  assent 
to  these  Acts." 


His  Honour  the  Lieutenant-Governor  was  then  pleased  to  retire. 


PRAYERS.  3.30  O'CLOCK  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up    and    laid   upon   the 
Table:— 

By  Mr.  Fraser,  the  Petition  of  the  Village  Council  of  Fort  Erie;  also, 
the  Petition  of  the  Village  Council  of  Chippawa. 


Mr.  Lucas,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Private  Bills,  presented  their 
Sixth  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 


Edw.  VII.  7TH  MARCH.  171 


The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bill  and  report 
the  same  without  amendment : — 

Bill  (No.  21),  To  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  City  of  Stratford 
and  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Company  of  Canada. 

The  Committee  have  also  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and 
report  the  same  with  certain  amendments : — 

Bill  (No.  41),  Expecting  the  City  of  Brantford  and  the  John  H.  Strat- 
ford Hospital. 

Bill  (No.  46),  Respecting  the  City  of  Windsor. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  the  fees,  less  the  actual  cost  of  printing, 
be  remitted  on  Bill  (No.  58),  Respecting  the  Young  Men's  Christian  Associa- 
tion, Woodstock,  on  the  ground  that  the  Bill  is  one  relating  to  an  Educational 
or  Religious  Institution. 


Ordered,  That  the  fees,  less  the  actual  cost  of  printing,  be  remitted  on 
Bill  (No.  58),  Woodstock  Y.  M.  C.  A. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time : — 

Bill  (No.  212),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Devolution  and  Distri- 
bution of  Estates."     Mr.  Lucas. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  213),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Game  and  Fish- 
eries Act."     Mr.  Reaume. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  214),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Railway  Act, 
1906."     Mr.  Lennox. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  216),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Medical  Act." 
Mr.  Jessop. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  21T),  intituled  "  The  Municipal  Amendment  Act,  1910."    Mr. 
Hanna. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


172  ?TH  MARCH.  1910 


The  following  Bill  was,  nemine  contradicente,  introduced  and  read  the 
first  time : — 

Bill  (No.  215),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act."     Mr. 
Grigg. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a   Committee,  severally  to  consider  the 
following  Bills : — 

Bill  (No.  3),  To  confirm  By-law  "No.  818  of  the  Town  of  Napanee. 

Bill   (No.   58),   Respecting  the  Young  Men's   Christian  Association  of 
Woodstock,  Ontario. 


.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  several  Bills  without  any  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bills  reported,  be  severally  read  the  third  time  To- 
morrow. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time : — 

Bill  (No.  51),  Respecting  the  Morrisburg  Electric  Railway  Company. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  50),  Respecting  the  Lac  Seul,  Rat  Portage  and  Keewatin  Rail- 
way Company. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  49),  Respecting  the  Iron  Range  Railway  Company. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  163),  To  incorporate  the  Hurontario  Railway  Company. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  170),  Respecting  the  Toronto  Suburban  Railway  Company. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  7TH  MARCH.  173 

Sir  James  Whitney  delivered  to  Mr.  Speaker  a  Message  from  the  Lieu- 
tenant-Governor, signed  by  himself;  and  the  said  Message  was  read  by  Mr. 
Speaker,  and  is  as  follows: — 

J.  M.  GIBSON. 

The  Lieutenant-Governor  transmits  Estimates  of  certain  sums  required 
for  the  service  of  the  Province  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911,  and 
recommends  them  to  the  Legislative  Assembly. 

GOVERNMENT  HOUSE, 

Toronto,  March  7th,  1910. 

(Sessional  Papers,  No.  2.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Message  of  the  Lieutenant-Governor,  together  with  the 
Estimates  accompanying  same,  be  referred  to  the  Committee  of  Supply. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  171), 
Respecting  the  Registration  of  Instruments  relating  to  Lands,  and  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry  re- 
ported, That  the  Committee  had  made  some  progress,  and  directed  him  to  ask 
for  leave  to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  the  Committee  have  leave  to  sit  again  To-morrow. 


The  House,  according  to  Order,  again  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee 
of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That  there  be  granted  to  His  Majesty,  for  the  service  of  1910- 
1911,  the  following  sums: — 

1.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Lieutenant-Governor's  Office.  .     $     4,650  00 

2.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Prime  Minister  and  Presi- 

dent of  the  Council 7,850  00 

3.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Attorney-General's  Depart- 

ment             65,276  00 

4.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Education  Department.  .         29,960  00 

5.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Lands,  Forests  and  Mines  De- 

partment           137,900  00 


174                                                    TTH  MARCH.  1910 

6.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Works  Department $06,660  00 

7.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Treasury  Department 33,804  00 

8.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Provincial  Auditor's  Office  15,280  00 

9.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Provincial  Secretary's  Office  173,345  00 

10.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Department  of  Agriculture  62,010  00 

11.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous 18,850  00 

12.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Legislation 255,450  00 

13.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Salaries  and  Expenses  of  Ad- 

ministration of  Justice 198,309  66 

14.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous 355,663  00 

15.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Administration  of  Justice  in 

Districts    136,769  00 

16.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  and  Separate  Schools' 

Education 992,100  00 

17.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Normal  and  Model  Schools,  To- 

ronto      45,290  00 

18.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Normal  and  Model  Schools, 

Ottawa    46,605  00 

19.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Normal  and  Model  Schools, 

London   25,175  00 

20.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Normal  School,  Hamilton 21,075  00 

21.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Normal  School,  Peterborough.  .  21,705  00 

22.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Normal  School,  Stratford 20,955  00 

23.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Normal  School,  North  Bay  .  .  .  24,960  00 

24.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  High  Schools  and  Collegiate 

Institutes 154,100  00 

25.  To  defray  the  expenses  of    Departmental    Library    and 

Museum    18,200  00 


Edw.  VII.  7TH  MARCH.  175 


26.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Libraries,  Art  Schools, 

Literary   and   Scientific   Societies    $60,900  00 

27.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Technical  Education 63,800  00 

28.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Superannuated  Public  and  High 

School   Teachers    62,650  00 

29.  To   defray   the   expenses   of   Provincial   University   and 

Mining   Schools    42,200  00 

30.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Maintenance  Education  De- 

partment and  Miscellaneous    31,824  00 

31.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Institution  for  the  Deaf  and 

Dumb,  Belleville   59,398  00 

32.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Blind  Institute,  Brantford 43,250  00 

33.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Insane,  Brock- 

ville    113,106  00 

34.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Insane,  Cobourg        28,000  00 

35.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Insane,  Ham- 

ilton        1-71,127  00 

36.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Insane,  Kings- 

ton     ; 119,193  00 

37.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Insane,  London      164,000  00 

38.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Insane,  Mimico      102,550  00 

39.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Idiots,  Orillia        88,467  00 

40.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Insane,  Pene" 

tanguishene    68,765  00 

41.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Insane,  Toronto      155,947  00 

42.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Epileptics, 

Woodstock   38,736  00 

43.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Central  Prison,  Toronto  .  .  .         75,040  00 

44.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Central  Prison  Industries  .  .         63,470  00 


176                                                     ?TH  MARCH.  1910 

45.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Mercer  Reformatory,  To- 

ronto      $30,.92o  00 

46.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Agricultural  and  Horticultural 

Societies 124,395  00 

47.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Live  Stock  Branch 32,180  00 

48.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Institutes 36,450  00 

49.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Bureau  of  Industries 5,500  00 

50.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Dairy  Branch 57,570  00 

51.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Fruit  Branch 43,420  00 

52.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Ontario  Veterinary  College  31,900  00 

53.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous 59,850  00 

54.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Agricultural  College — Salar- 

ies  and  Expenses    135,500  00 

55.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Macdonald  Institute  and 

Hall 36,040  00 

56.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Forestry 1,500  00 

57.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Animal  Husbandry,  Farm  and 

Experimental   Feeding  Department    19,250  00 

58.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Field  Experiments 12,580  00 

59.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Experimental  Dairy  Department  9,756  00 

60.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Dairy  School 8,165  00 

61.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Poultry  Department  ....  5,100  00 

62.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Horticultural  Department  9,650  00 

63.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Agriculture  Department  .  .  750  00 

64.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Soil  Physics  Department .  . .  4,000  00 

65.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Mechanical  Department  . .  1,050  00 


Edw.  VII.                                       7TH  MARCH.  177 

66.     To  defray  tlie  expenses  of  Colonization  and  Immigration  $73,800  00 

67.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Stationary  Engineers 6,050  00 

68.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Hospitals  and  Charities   ....  319,700  00 

69.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Maintenance  and  Repairs  of 

Government  House    18,000  00 

70.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Maintenance  and  Repairs  Par- 

liament and  Departmental  Buildings   193,100  00 

71.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  New  Government  House  ....  100,000  00 

72     To  defray  the  expenses   of  Parliament  Buildings    (new 

wing) 200,000  00 

73.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Osgoode  Hall 67,400  00 

74.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Institutions 101,600  00 

75.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Buildings,  Educational  11,500  00 

76.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Buildings,  Agriculture  .  $800  00 

77.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Buildings,  Districts  .  .  22,250  00 

78.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Works   69,700  00 

79.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Colonization  Roads 118,000  00 

80.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Crown  Lands,  Outside  Service 

and  Surveys 456,800  00 

81.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Mines  and  Mining 83,200  00 

82.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Parks 21,000  00 

83.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Refund  Account,  Education.  .  1,000  00 

84.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Refund  Account,  Lands,  Forests 

and  Mines 17,000  00 

85.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Refund  Account,  Miscellaneous  12,000  00 


178  7TH  AND  STH  MARCH.  1910 


86.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Refund  Account,  Succession 

Duties $3-3,000  00 

87.  To  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous 547,950  00 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Clark  (Bruce)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  come  to  several  Eesolutions. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  To-morrow. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  5.35  P.M. 


Tuesday,  8th  March,  1910. 
PL-AVERS.  3  O'Clock  P.M. 

Mr.  Speaker  informed  the  House, 

That  the  Clerk  had  received  from  the  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills, 
their  Report  in  the  following  case: — 

Bill  (No.   59),  Respecting  the  City  of  Toronto. 

The  Report  was  then  read  by  the  Clerk,  at  the  Table,  as  follows : — 
To  the  Honourable  the  Legislative  Assembly  of  the  Province  of  Ontario. 

The  undersigned,  two  of  the  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills,  to  whom  was 
referred  Bill  (No.  59),  Respecting  the  City  of  Toronto,  have  the  honour  to 
report : 

1.  Inasmuch  as  the  preamble  of  the  Bill  does  not  on  its  face  show  the 
trusts  upon  which  the  property  to  which  it  relates  was  held  by  the  Corpora- 
tion of  the  Town  of  East  Toronto  at  the  time  of  the  annexation  of  that  Town 
to  the  City  of  Toronto,  it  is  well  that  the  material  circumstances  should  be 
stated. 

2.  By  the  Act,  3  Edw.  7,  cap.  50,  vesting  in  the  Corporation  of  the  Town 
of  East  Toronto,  Balmy  Beach  Park,  provision  was  made  for  the  management, 
regulation  and  control  "of  the  Park  by  a  Board  called  the  Board  of  Manage- 
ment of  the  Balmy  Beach  Park. 


Edw.  Vll.  STH  MARCH.  179 


3.  The  Board  was  to  consist  of  the  Mayor  of  the  Town  and  six  other 
persons  not  members  of  the  Council,  to  be  appointed  by  the  Council  on  the 
nomination  of  the  Mayor.  Two  of  the  members  of  the  Board  were  to  be  resi" 
dents  on  land  in  the  Township  of  York  covered  by  Plan  406 ;  two  were  to  be 
owners  of  land  covered  by  the  Plan,  in  the  Town ;  and  the  two  others  residents 
of  the  Town. 


4.  The  Board  was  created  a  corporation  and  was  given  power,  amongst 
other  things,  with  the  consent  of  the  Council,  to  borrow  either  by  mortgage 
on  the  Park,  or  upon  debentures,   any  money  required  for  the  purposes  of 
the  Trust. 

5.  The  Town  of  East  Toronto  having  been,  under  the  authority  of  the 
Municipal  Act,  annexed  to  the  City  of  Toronto,  it  follows  either  that  there 
is  now  no  body  having  the  powers  which  by  the  Act  were  conferred  upon  the 
Council  of  that  municipality,   including  the   power   to   appoint  members   of 
the  Board,  or  that  power  is  vested  in  the  council     of  the  Corporation  of  the 
City  of  Toronto.     It  is  to  be  observed  that  there  is  no  power  in  the  Board  to 
borrow,  unless  with  the  consent  of  the  Council,  and  therefore  there  are  now 
no  means  by  which  the  Park  can  be  maintained  and  improved,    as    was   con- 
templated by  the  Act. 


: 


6.  While  the  Trust  Deed  of  the  Park  from  Sir  Adam  Wilson  conveyed 
upon  trust  "for  the  common  use  and  enjoyment  as  a  promenade  or  place 

f  general  resort  for  the  owners  or  occupiers  of  the  lands  included  on  the  said 
plan"  by  the  Act  to  which  reference  has  been  made  these  trusts  were  enlarged, 
and  the  Town  of  East  Toronto  held  the  property  "as  a  park  and  place  of  rec- 
reation for  the  use  of  all  owners  of  property  and  persons  residing  on  Plan 
406  and  their  visitors,  and  for  the  use  of  all  persons  residing  in  the  Town 
of  East  Toronto  and  their  visitors." 

7.  If  Section  9  of  the  proposed  Bill  becomes  law,  the  effect  will  be  that 
the  property  will  become  one  of  the  Public  Parks  of  the  City  and  open  as  well 
to  the  general  public  as  to  the  persons  mentioned  in  the  Act  vesting  it  in  the 
Corporation  of  the  Town  of  East  Toronto. 

8.  It  is  manifest  from  what  has  been  stated  that  some  provision  must 
be  made  for  the  management  of  the  property,  and  it  is  a  question  of  policy  for 
the  Legislature  whether  what  is  proposed  by  the  Bill  is  reasonable,  having 
regard  to  the  circumstances  which  have  been  mentioned. 

9.  It  is  to  be  also  observed  that  without  any  means  for  the  maintenance 
md  improvement  of  the  Park  it  would  appear  difficult  to  keep  it  in  such  a 
ondition  as  it  should  be  kept  in  order  to  meet  the  purposes  for  which  the 

was  given  by  Sir  Adam  Wilson,  and  it  does  not  appear  to  the  under- 


180  STH  MARCH.  1910 

signed  that  to  vest  the  control  and  management  of  it  in  the  Corporation  of 
the  City  of  Toronto  as  one  of  its  Public  Parks,  as  is  proposed,  is  unreasonable. 

10.  The  undersigned  are  of  the  opinion  that  the  provisions  of  Section 
9  of  the  Bill  are  proper  for  carrying  its  purposes  into  effect. 

11.  The  admission  of  others  than  those  entitled  to  the  use  of  the  Park  ac- 
cording to  the  trusts  upon  which  it  is  held  would  not  appear  to  the  undersigned 
to  be  seriously  interfered  with,  by  conferring  the  use  of  the  Park  upon  the 
citizens  of  Toronto  generally,  but  that,  as  has  already  been  said,  is  a  matter 
rather  for  the  consideration  of  the  Legislature  than  of  the  undersigned. 

All  of  which  is  respectfully  submitted. 
Dated  at  Osgoode  Hall,  the  8th  day  of  March,  1.910. 

W.  R.  MEREDITH,    C.J.C.P. 


HUGH  MACMAHON,  J. 


Ordered,  That  Bill  (No.  59),  Respecting  the  City  of  Toronto,  be  recom- 
mitted to  the  Committee  on  Private  Bills  with  instructions  to  consider  the 
same  with  reference  to  the  suggestions  of  the  Commissioners  of  Estate  Bills 
thereon. 


The  following  Petition  was  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the  Table : — 
By  Mr.  Torrance,  the  Petition  of  the  Township  Council  of  Wallace. 


The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received: — 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  Sandfield;  also,  of  the  Township  Council 
of  West  Williams;  also,  of  the  Village  Council  of  Fort  Erie;  also,  of  the 
Village  Council  of  Chippawa,  severally  praying  for  certain  amendments  to 
the  Assessment  Act,  respecting  the  Taxation  of  Farm  Buildings. 


Mr.  Hendrie,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Railways,  presented  their 
Fourth  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and  have 
prepared  certain  amendments  thereto  respectively: — 

Bill  (No  16),  To  incorporate  the  Monarch  Railway  Company. 


Edw.  VII.  STH  MARCH.  181 


Bill  (No.  169),  To  incorporate  the  Niagara  Falls,  Welland  and  Dunnville 
Electric  Railway  Company. 

The  Committee  have  also  considered  Bill  (No.  18),  Respecting  the 
People's  Railway  Company,  recommitted  to  the  Committee  hy  Your  Honourable 
House  for  further  consideration  and  report,  and  have  prepared  certain  amend- 
ments thereto. 


Mr.   Lucas,  from  the   Standing  Committee  on  Private  Bills,   presented 
their  Seventh  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and  report 
the  same  without  amendment :: — 

Bill  (No.  43),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Kenora. 

Bill  (No.  93),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Township  of  York. 

Bill  (No.  7),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Penetanguishene. 

The  Committee  have  also  carefully"  considered  the  following  Bills  and 
iport  the  same  with  certain  amendments: — 

Bill  (No.  56),  To  ratify  By-law  568  of  the  Town  of  Durham. 

Bill  (No.  29),  To  confirm  By-law  2116  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines. 

Bill  (No.  42),  To  confirm  By-law  2126  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines  and 
ie  agreement  therein  contained. 


Mr.  Hanna,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Municipal  Law,  presented 
sir  First  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and  report 
same  with  certain  amendments : — 

Bill  (No.  80),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  Statute  Labour. 
Bill  (No.  180),  Respecting  the  Manufacture  and  Sale  of  Bread. 


Mr.  Preston  (Lanark),  from  the  Select  Committee,  to  which  was  referred 
(No.  186),  To  amend  the  Ontario  Medical  Act,  presented  their  Report 
which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 


182  STH  MARCH.  1910 


The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  Bill  to  them  referred  and 
report  the  same  with  certain  amendments. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time : — 

Bill  (No.  218),  intituled  "An  Act  to  Prevent  the  Spread  of  Insect  and 
Fungous  Diseases  injurious  to  Vegetation."     Mr.  Duff. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  219),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  certain  Public  School  mat- 
ters in  the  City  of  Toronto."     Mr.  Lucas. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  220),  intituled  "An  Act  with  respect  to  Compensation  to  Work- 
men for  Injury  suffered  in  the  course  of  Employment."     Mr.  Proudfoot. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  221),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  for  the  Prevention 
of  Accidents  by  Fire  in  Hotels  and  other  like  Buildings."     Mr.  Hearst. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  127),  Eespecting 
Short  Forms  of  Conveyances,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee ;  and,  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  128),  Eespecting 
Short  Forms  of  Leases,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 


Edw.  VII.  STH  MARCH.  183 


The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee ;  and,  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  129),  Kespecting 
Short  Forms  of  Mortgages,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee ;  and,  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  134),  Eespecting 
Mortgages  of  Keal  Estate,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee ;  and,  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  third  time  and  passed : — 
Bill  (No.  155),  Eespecting  Master  and  Servant. 

Bill  (No.  3),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  818  of  the  Town  of  Napanee. 

Bill    (No.   58),  Eespecting  the  Young  Men's  Christian  Association  of 
Woodstock,  Ontario. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time : — 

Bill  (No.  212),  Eespecting  the  Devolution  and  Distribution  of  Estates. 

Eeferred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  200),  To  further  amend  the  Pharmacy  Act. 
Eeferred  to  the  Legal  Committee. 


184  STH  MARCH.  1910 

Bill  (No.  21),  To  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  City  of  Stratford 
and  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Company  of  Canada. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  41),  Respecting  the  City  of  Brantford  and  the  John  H.  Strat- 
ford Hospital. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 
Bill  (No.  46),  Respecting  the  City  of  Windsor. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  167),  To  amend  the  Assessment  Act. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  207),  To  amend  the  Local  Municipal  Telephone  Act,  1908. 
Rf  +'erred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  193),  To  amend 
the  Municipal  Act,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  201),  To  amend 
the  Ontario  Railway  Act,  1906,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  204),  To  amend 
the  Public  Schools  Act,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  205),  To  amend 
the  Truancy  Act,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  182),  To  amend 
the  Assessment  Act,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 


Edw.  VII.  STH  MARCH.  185 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee,  severally  to  consider  the 
following  Bills : — 

Bill  (No.  55),  Kespecting  Levying  and  Collecting  Toilo  en  the  Mississippi 
River. 

Bill  (No.  26),  To  authorize  Lester  McDonnell  Coulter  to  Practice  Medi- 
cine in  the  Province  of  Ontario. 

Bill  (No.  22),  Respecting  the  City  of  Peterborough. 

Bill  (No.  51),  Respecting  the  Morrisburg  Electric  Railway  Company. 

Bill  (No.  50),  Respecting  the  Lac  Seul,  Rat  Portage  and  Keewatin  Rail- 
way Company. 

Bill  (No.  49),  Respecting  the  Iron  Range  Railway  Company. 
Bill  (No.  163),  To  incorporate  the  Hurontario  Railway  Company. 
Bill  (No.  170),  Respecting  the  Toronto  Suburban  Railway  Company. 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  several  Bills  without  any  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bills  reported,  be  severally  read  the  third  time  To- 
morrow. 


Mr.  Clark  (Bruce)  reported  the  following  Resolutions  from  the  Committee 
mittee  of  Supply:— 

1.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  thousand  six  hundred  and 
fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Lieutenant- 
Governor's  Office  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

2.  Resolved,,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Seven  thousand  eight  hundred  and 
fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Office  of 
the  Prime  Minister  and  President  of  the  Council  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1911. 

3.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Sixty-five  thousand  two  hundred 
and  seventy-six  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
Attorney-General's  Department  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 


186  STH  MARCH.  1910 


4.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twenty-nine  thousand  nine  hun- 
dred and  sixty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
Education  Department  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

5.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  thirty-seven 
thousand  nine  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses 
of  the  Lands,  Forests  and  Mines  Department  for  the  year  ending  31st  October, 
1911. 

6.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Sixty-six  thousand  six  hundred 
and  sixty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Public 
Works  Department  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

7.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Thirty-three  thousand  eight  hun- 
dred and  four  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
Treasury  Department  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

8.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fifteen  thousand  two  hundred  and 
eighty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Provincial 
Auditor's  Office  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

9.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  seventythree 
thousand  three  hundred  and  forty-five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to 
defray  the  expenses  of  the  Provincial  Secretary's  Department  for  the  year  end- 
ing 31st  October,  1911. 

10.  Resolved,   That   a   sum  not   exceeding   Sixty-two   thousand   and   ten 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Department 
of  Agriculture  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

11.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eighteen  thousand  eight  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscel- 
laneous for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

12.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  hundred  and  fifty-five  thou- 
sand four  hundred  and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the 
expenses  of  Legislation  for  the  year  ending  31st  October  1911. 

13.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  ninety-eight 
thousand  three  hundred  and  nine  dollars  and  sixty-six  cents  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Administration  of  Justice,  Salaries  and 
Expenses,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

14.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Three  hundred  and  fifty-five  thou- 
sand six  hundred  and  sixty-three  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray 
the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous  Administration  of  Justice  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1911. 


Edw.  VII.  STH  MARCH.  187 


15.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  thirty-six  thou- 
sand seven  hundred  and  sixty-nine  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray 
the  expenses  of  Administration  of  Justice  in  Districts  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1911. 

16.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Nine  hundred  and  ninety-two 
thousand  one  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses 
of  Public  and  Separate  School  Education  for  the  year  ending  31st  October, 
1911. 

17.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Forty-five  thousand  two  hundred 
and  ninety  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Normal 
and  Model  Schools,  Toronto,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

18.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Forty'six  thousand  six  hundred 
and  five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to.  defray  the  expenses  of  Normal 
and  Model  Schools,  Ottawa,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

19.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twenty-five  thousand  one  hund- 
red and  seventy-five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses 
of  Normal  and  Model  Schools,  London,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

20.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twenty-one  thousand  and  seventy- 
five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Normal  School, 
Hamilton,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

21.  Resolved,    That   a   sum   not   exceeding   Twenty-one   thousand   seven 
hundred  and  five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of 
Normal  School,  Peterborough,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

22.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twenty  thousand  nine  hundred 
and  fifty-five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of 
Normal  School,  Stratford,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

23.  Resolved,   That   a    sum   not   exceeding   Twenty-four   thousand   nine 
hundred  and  sixty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of 
the  Normal  School,  North  Bay,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

24.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  fifty-four  thou- 
sand one  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of 
High    School    and    Collegiate   Institutes   for   the   year   ending    31st    October, 
1911. 

25.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eighteen  thousand  two  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Departmental 
Library  and  Museum  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 


188  STH  MARCH.  1910 


26.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Sixty  thousand  nine  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Libraries, 
Art  Schools,  Literary  and  Scientific,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

27.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Sixtythree  thousand  eight  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Technical  Education 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

28.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Sixty-two  thousand  six  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Super- 
annuated Public  and  High  School  Teachers  for  the  year  ending  31st  October, 
1911. 

29.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Forty-two  thousand  two  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Provincial  Univer- 
sity and  Mining  Schools  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

30.  Resolved,  That    a    sum    not    exceeding    Thirty-one    thousand  eight 
hundred  and  twenty'four  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  ex- 
penses of  Miscellaneous     Maintenance,  Education  Department  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1911. 

31.  Resolved,   That   a   sum  not    exceeding    Fifty-nine    thousand    three 
hundred  and  ninety-eight  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  ex- 
penses of  the  Institution  for  the  Deaf  and  Dumb,  Belleville,  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1911. 

32.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Forty-three  thousand  two  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Blind 
Institute,  Brantford,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

33.  Resolved,  That   a  sum  not  exceeding    One    hundred    and    thirteen 
thousand  one  hundred  and  six  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the 
expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Insane,   Brockville,   for  the  year   ending   31st 
October,  1911. 

34.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twenty-eight  thousand  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Insane, 
Cobourg,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

35.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  seventy-one 
thousand  one  hundred  and  twenty-seven  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to 
defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Insane,  Hamilton,  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1911. 

36.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding    One    hundred    and    nineteen 


Edw.  VII.  STH  MARCH.  189 


thousand  one  hundred  and  ninety-three  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to 
defray  the  expenses,  of  the  Hospital  for  the  Insane,  Kingston,  for  the  year  end- 
ing 31st  October,  1911. 

37.  Resolved,   That   a  sum  not   exceeding  One  hundred   and   sixty-four 
thousand  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
Hospital  for  Insane,  London,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

38.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  two  thousand 
five  hundred  and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses 
of  the  Hospital  for  the  Insane,  Mimico,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

39.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not    exceeding    Eighty-eight    thousand    four 
hundred  and  sixty-seven  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  ex- 
penses of  the  Hospital  for  Idiots,  Orillia,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October, 
1911. 

40.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not    exceeding    Sixty-eight    thousand    seven 
hundred  and  sixty-five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  ex- 
penses of  the  Hospital  for  Insane,  Penetanguishene,  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1911. 

41.  Resolved,  That   a   sum  not  exceeding  One    hundred    and    fifty -five 
thousand  nine  hundred  and  fortyseven  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to 
defray  the  expenses  of  the  Hospital  for  Insane,  Toronto,  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1911. 

42.  Resolved,    That   a    sum   not   exceeding   Thirty-eight   thousand   seven 
hundred  and  thirty-six  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses 
of  the  Hospital  for  Epileptics,  Woodstock,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October, 
1911. 

43.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Seventy-five  thousand  and  forty 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Central  Prison, 
Toronto,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1910. 

44.  Resolved,   That   a   sum  not    exceeding    Sixty-three    thousand    four 
hundred  and  seventy  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses 
of  the  Central  Prison  Industries  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

45.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Thirty  thousand  nine  hundred 
and  twenty-five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
Mercer  Reformatory,  Toronto,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

46.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  twenty-four 
thousand  three  hundred  and  ninety-five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to 


190  STH  MARCH.  1910 

defray  the  expenses  of  Agricultural  and  Horticultural  Societies  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1911. 

47.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Thirty-two  thousand  one  hundred 
and  eighty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Live 
Stock  Branch  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

48.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Thirty-six  thousand  four  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Institutes 
for  the  year  ending  October  31st,  1911. 

49.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Five  thousand  five  hundred  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Bureau  of  Industries 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

50.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fifty-seven  thousand  five  hundred 
and  seventy  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the 
Dairy  Branch  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

51.  Resolved,   That   a   sum   not    exceeding    Forty-three    thousand     four 
hundred  and  twenty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses 
of  the  Fruit  Branch  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

52.  Resolved,,  That    a    sum    not    exceeding    Thirty-one    thousand    nine 
hundred  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the    expenses    of    the 
Ontario  Veterinary  College  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

53.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Fifty-nine  thousand  eight  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Miscellan- 
eous, Agriculture,  for  the  year  endnig  31st  October,  1911. 

54.  Resolved,   That   a   sum  not  exceeding  One   hundred   and   thirty-five 
thousand    five    hundred    dollars  be    granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  ex- 
penses of  Salaries  and  Expenses,  Agricultural  College,  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1911. 

55.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Thirty-six  thousand  and  forty 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Macdonald  Institute 
and  Hall,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

56.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  five  hundred  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Forestry  for  the  year  end- 
iiiir  31st  October,  1911. 

57.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Nineteen  thousand  two  hundred 
and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Animal 
Husbandry,  Farm  and  Experimental  Feeding  Department  for  the  year  ending 
31st  October,  1911. 


Edw.  VII.  STH  MARCH.  191 


58.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twelve  thousand  five  hundred 
and  eighty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Field 
Experiments  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

59.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Nine  thousand  seven  hundred 
and  fifty-six  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Ex- 
perimental Dairy  Department  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

60.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eight  thousand  one  hundred  and 
sixty-five  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Dairy 
School  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

61.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Five  thousand  one  hundred  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Poultry  Department  for  the 
year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

"~62.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Xine  thousand  six  hundred  and 
fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Horticulture 
Department  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

63.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Seven  hundred  and  fifty  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Apiculture  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1911. 

64.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Four  thousand  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Soil  Physics  Department  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1.911. 

65.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  and  fifty  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  the  Mechanical  Depart- 
ment for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

66.  Resolved,   That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Seventy-three  thousand   eight 
hundred  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Coloniza- 
tion and  Immigration  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

67.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Six  thousand  and  fifty  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Stationary  Engineers  foi* 
the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

68.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Three  hundred  and  nineteen 
thousand  seven  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  ex- 
penses of  Hospitals  and  Charities  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

69.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eighteen  thousand  dollars  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Government  House  for  the 
year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 


192  STH  MARCH.  1910 

70.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  ninety-three 
thousand  one  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  ex- 
penses of  Parliament  and  Departmental  Buildings  for  the  year  ending  31st 
October,  1911. 

71.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  thousand  dollars  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  !N"ew  Government  House 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

72.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Two  hundred  thousand  dollars  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Addition  to  Parliament 
Buildings  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

73.  Resolved,  That  a  sum    not    exceeding    Sixty-seven    thousand    four, 
hundred  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Public 
Buildings,  Osgoode  Hall,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

74.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  hundred  and  one  thousand 
six  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Public 
Institutions  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

75.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eleven  thousand  five  hundred 
dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Buildings 
(Educational)  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

76.  Resolved,  That    a    sum    not    exceeding    Eight    hundred    dollars    be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Buildings  (Agricul- 
ture) for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

77.  Resolved,  That    a    sum    not    exceeding    Twenty-two    thousand    two 
hundred  and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of 
Public  Buildings  (Districts)  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

78.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Sixty-nine  thousand  seven  hun- 
ired  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Public  Works 
for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

79.  Resolved,  That  a  sum    not    exceeding  One    hundred    and    eighteen 
thousand  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Coloniza- 
tion Roads  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

80.  Resolved,    That   a    sum   not   exceeding   Four   hundred    and   fifty-six 
thousand  eight  hundred  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  ex- 
penses of  Expenditure  on  account  of  Outside  Service  and  Surveys  for  the  year 
ending  31st  October,  1911. 

81.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Eighty-three  thousand  two  hun- 


Edw.  VII.  STH  MARCH.  193 


dred  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Expenditure 
on  account  of  Mines  and  Mining  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

82.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twenty-one  thousand  dollars  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Expenditure  on  account  of 
Parks  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

83.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  One  thousand  dollars  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Education,  Refund  Account,  for  the 
year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

84.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Seventeen  thousand  dollars  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the    expenses    of    Crown    Lands,  Refund 
Account,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1.911. 

85.  Resolved,  That   a  sum  not  exceeding  Twelve    thousand    dollars    be 
granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the    expenses    of    Miscellaneous,  Refund 
Account,  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

86.  Resolved,  That  a   sum  not  exceeding  Thirty-three  thousand  dollars 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Succession  Duty  for  the, 
year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 

87.  Resolved,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  Five  hundred  and  forty-sevep 
thousand  nine  hundred  and  fifty  dollars  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  to  defray 
the  expenses  of  Miscellaneous  for  the  year  ending  31st  October,  1911. 


The  several  Resolutions,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  concurred  in. 


The  House,  according  to  the  Order,  again  resolved  itself  into  the  Commit- 
tee of  Ways  and  Means. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That  there  be  granted  out  of  the  Consolidated  Revenue  Fund  of 
this  Province,  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twelve  millions  two  hundred  and  ninety- 
eight  thou'sand  three  hundred  and  forty-three  dollars  and  thirty  cents 
($12,298,343.30)  to  meet  the  Supply  to  that  extent  granted  to  His  Majesty. 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported,  that  the  Com- 
mittee had  come  to  a  Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  forthwith. 


194  STH  MARCH.  1910 


Mr.  Hoyle,  from  the  Committee  on  Ways  and  Means,  reported  a  Resolu- 
tion  which  was  read  as  follows : — 

Resolved,  That  there  be  granted  out  of  the  Consolidated  Revenue  Fund  of 
this  Province,  a  sum  not  exceeding  Twelve  millions  two  hundred  and  ninety- 
eight  thousand  three  hundred  and  forty-three  dollars  and  thirty  cents 
($12,298,343.30),  to  meet  the  Supply  to  that  extent  granted  to  His  Majesty. 

The  Resolution,  having  been  read  a  second  time,  was  agreed  to. 


Mr.  Hanna  presented  to  the  House,  by  command  of  His  Honour  the 
Lieutenant-Governor : — 

Report  of  the  Inspector  of  Legal  Offices,  for  the  year  1.909.     (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  6.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Inspector  of  Registry  Offices,  for  the  year   1909. 
(Sessional  Papers,  No.  7.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Inspector  of  Prisons  and  Public  Charities,  on  the 
Hospital  for  Idiots,  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  22.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Inspector  of  Prisons  and  Public  Charities,  on  Hospi- 
tals and  Charities  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  24.) 

Also — Report  on  Neglected  and  Dependent  Children,  for  the  year  1909. 
(Sessional  Papers,  No.  26.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Inspector  of  Prisons  and  Public  Charities,  on  Hospi- 
tals for1  the  Insane,  for  the  year  1909.  (Sessional  Papers,  No.  21.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Archivist  for  the  year  1909.  (Sessional  Papers, 
No.  51.) 

Also — Report  of  Dr.  Helen  MacMurchy  on  Infant  Mortality.  (Ses- 
sional Papers,  No.  66.) 

Also — Return  to  an  Order  of  the  House  of  the  Sixteenth  day  of  February, 
1910,  for  a  Return  shewing:  1.  The  number  of  male  teachers  granted  County 
Model  School  Certificates  in  the  years  3906,  1907,  1908  and  1909,  respec- 
tively. 2.  The  number  of  female  teachers  granted  County  Model  School 
Certificates  in  the  years  1906,  1907,  1908  and  1909,  respectively.  3.  The 
number  of  male  teachers  granted  Normal  School  Certificates  in  the  years  1906, 
1907,  1908  and  1909,  respectively.  4.  The  number  of  female  teachers  grant- 


Edw.   VII.  STH  AND  9TH  MARCH.  195 


ed  Normal  School  Certificates  in  the  years  1906,  1907,  1908  and  1909,  res- 
pectively.    (Sessional  Papers,  No.  67.) 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  6  P.M. 


Wednesday,  9th  March,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'Clock,  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  severally  brought  up    and    laid    upon    the 

Table:— 

By  Sir  James  Whitney,  the  Petition  of  the  District  Labour  Council  of 
Toronto. 

By  Mr.   McDonald,   the  Petition  of  the  County  Council  of  the  United 
Counties  of  Stormont,  Dundas  and  Glengarry. 


Mr.   Lucas,   from  the   Standing  Committee  on  Private  Bills,  presented 
their  Eighth  Eeport  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bill  and  report 
the  same  without  amendment: — 

Bill   (No.  28),  To  incorporate  the  Hamilton  School  of  Anatomy. 

The  Committee  have  also  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and 
report  the  same  with  amendments: — 

Bill  (No.  95),  Kespecting  the  City  of  Guelph. 

Bill   (No.  44),  Respecting  Simcoe  Railway  and  Power  Company. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  the  fees,  less  the  actual  cost  of  printing-, 
bv  remitted  on  Bill  (No.  48),  To  incorporate  the  Artesian  Water  Company, 
Limited,  the  same  having  been  withdrawn  by  the  promoters  thereof. 


Mr.  Hendrie,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Railways,  presented  their 
Fifth  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 


196  9TH  MARCH.  1910 


The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  Bill  (No.  52),  To  amend  and 
consolidate  the  Acts  incorporating  the  Fort  Erie  Ferry  Railway  Company 
and  to  change  the  name  thereof  to  the  Buffalo  and  Fort  Erie  Ferry  and  Rail- 
way Company  and  have  prepared  certain  amendments  to  the  Bill,  and  have 
amended  the  Preamble  thereof  so  as  to  make  the  same  conform  with  the  facts 
as  they  .appear  to  the  Committee,  and  have  also  amended  the  Title  to  the  said 
Bill  so  that  it  now  reads  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Acts  incorporating  the  Fort 
Erie  Ferry  Railway  Company,  and  to  change  the  name  thereof  to  the  Buffalo 
and  Fort  Erie  Ferry  and  Railway  Company/7 

The  Committee  have  had  before  them  Bill  (No.  189),  To  amend  the 
Ontario  Railway  and  Municipal  Board  Act,  1906,  referred  to  the  Committee 
for  consideration,  and  considering  the  subject  of  this  Bill  more  within  the 
scope  of  the  Legal  Committee,  would  recommend  that  the  Bill  be  referred  to 
that  Committee  for  their  consideration  and  Report. 

Ordered,  That  Bill  (No.  189),  To  amend  the  Ontario  Railway  and  Munici- 
pal Board  Act,  1906,  be  referred  to  the  Legal  Committee  in  accordance  with 
the  recommendation  of  the  Standing  Committee  on  Railways. 


Ordered,  That  the  fees,  less  the  actual  cost  of  printing,  be  remitted  on 
Bill  (No.  48),  Artesian  Water  Company. 


The  following  Bill  was  introduced  and  read  the  first  time. 

Bill   (No.  222),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Succession  Duty  Act, 
19.09."     Mr.  Matheson. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  to-morrow. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  third  time  and  passed: — 

Bill  (No.  26),  To  authorize  Lester  McDonnell  Coulter  to  practice  Medi- 
cine in  the  Province  of  Ontario. 

Bill  (No.  22),  Respecting  the  City  of  Peterborough. 

Bill  (No.  51),  Respecting  tEe  Morrisburg  Electric  Railway  Company. 

Bill  (No.  50),  Respecting  the  Lac  Seul,  Rat  Portage  and  Keewatin  Rail- 
way Company. 


Edw.  VIL  9TH  MARCH.  197 

Bill  (No.  49),  Kespecting  the  Iron  Range  Railway  Company. 

Bill  (No.  170),  Respecting  the  Toronto  Suburban  Railway  Compam. 


Mr.  Elliott  asked  the  following  Question: 

1.  What  is  the  cost  for  each  financial  year,  since  the  inception,  of  the 
Railway  and  Municipal  Board.  2.  How  much  for  each  year,  was  the  cost  for 
(a)  Salaries  of  Members;  (&)  Salaries  of  Staff;  (c)  Travelling  expenses  of 
each  Member;  (d)  Travelling  expenses  of  Staff;  (e)  Other  expenses;  (f) 
Total  for  each  year  of  other  expenses. 

To  which  the  Attorney  General  replied  in  the  words  and  figures  follow- 
ing : — 

Year 

1906  $12,913.60 

1907 24,57.9.00 

1908 23,482.23 

1909 19,761.25 

No.  2  (a)  1906 7,944.43 

1907  14,000.00 

1908  14,000.00 

1909  11,666.68 

No.  2 


No.  2 


(&)    1906   

2,175.58 

1907    

5,350.00 

1908    

5,500.00 

1909    

5,166.69 

(c)     1906  Ingram    A.  B  

443.43 

Kitson  H.  N  

209.98 

Leitch   J  

476.88 

1907  Ingram  A.  B  

318.50 

Kitson  H.  N  

130.98 

Leitch  J  

1,109.35 

1908  Ingram  A.  B  

324.26 

Kitson  H.  N  

128.00 

Leitch  J  

279.85 

1909  Ingram  A.  B  

231.40 

Kitson  H.  N.   

92.30 

Leitch  J  

212.80 

198  9TH  MARCH.  1910 


No.  2  (d)     1906 $36.9.90 

1907    271.70 

1908   230.15 

1909   291.03 

JSTo.  2  (e)     1906   1,293.50 

1907    3,398.47 

1908    3,019.97 

1909    2,100.35 

ISTo.  2  (/)     1906 1,293.50 

1.907  3,398.47 

1908  3,019.97 

190.9  2,100.35 


Mr.  Kohler  asked  the  following  Question: 

(1)  Do  any  of  .the  Public  Institutions  of  the  Province  of  Ontario  pur- 
chase directly  their  own  supplies  of  beef,  lamb,  or  mutton.  (2)  If  so,  which 
ones.  (3)  What  is  the  contract  price  for  beef,  lamb  or  mutton  respectively, 
in  each  case  where  these  supplies  are  purchased  directly.  (4)  What  is  the 
average  cost^price  of  beef,  lamb  and  mutton  respectively,  purchased  through 
the  General  Purchasing  Agent  for  these  Institutions  since  January  1st,  1910. 

To  which  the  Provincial  Secretary  replied  in  the  words  and  figures  fol- 
lowing : — 

(1)  Yes. 

j 

(2)  Hospitals  for  Insane,  Cobourg,  Kingston  (in   part)    and    Penetan- 
guishene.    Hospital  for  Idiots,  Orillia  and  Hospital  for  Epileptics,  Woodstock. 

(3) 

Institution.  Cost  of  Beef.  Cost  of  Mutton. 

Hospital  for  Insane,  Cobourg  $8.00  per  cwt.  $10.00  per  cwt. 

Hospital  for  Insane,  Kingston  $6.50  per  cwt.  $10.50  per  cwt. 

(1  consignment) 

Hospital  for  Insane,  Penetang.  $9.20  per  cwt. 

Hospital  for  Idiots,  Orillia  $8.00  per  cwt.  $8.00  per  cwt. 

Hospital  for  Epileptics,  Woodstock,  8c  per  Ib.  ordinary  beef,  $12.50  per  cwt. 

lOc  per  Ib.  for  roasts. 
15c  per  Ib.  for  steak. 


(4)  Average  Price: — Beef  $8.76  per  cwt. 

Lamb,  $12.50  per  cwt. 


Edw.  VII.  9TH  MARCH.  199 


Mr.  MacKay  (Grey)   asked  the  following  Question: 

1.  What  was  the  number  of  convictions  for  infractions  of  the  Liquor 
License  Act  in  the  Town  of  Cobalt,  in  each  of  the  years  1905  to  1909  inclusive. 
2.  What  was  the  total  amount  of  the  fines  imposed  in  each  of  said  years  for 
said  infractions.  3.  What  revenue  did  the  Province  thus  obtain  in  each  of 
said  years  as  a  result  of  the  illicit  sale  of  liquor  in  Cobalt. 

To  which  the  Provincial  Secretary  replied  in  the  words  and  figures  fol- 
lowing : — 

(1)  The  number  of  convictions  for  infractions  of  the  Liquor  License 
Act  in  the  Town  of  Cobalt  were,  for  1905,  8;  1906,  46;  1907,  63;  1908,  10T; 
1909,  144. 

(2)  The  total  amount  of  fines  imposed  were,  in  1905,  $400 ;  1906,  $1,750 ; 

1907,  $4,575;  1908,  $6,935;  1909,  $13,525. 

(3)  The  revenue  the  Province  obtained  from  said  fines  as  a  result  of  the 
illicit  sale  of  liquor  in  Cobalt  was,  in  1905,  $400;  1906,  $1,730;  1907,  $4,575; 

1908,  $6,000;  1909,  $11,525. 

It  is  to  be  noted  that  all  the  fines  imposed  were  not  collected.  In  some 
cases  defendants  absconded  from  the  country,  and  in  others  they  were  com- 
mitted to  prison  in  default  of  payment. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  107),  Kespecting 
Procedure  before  Justices  of  the  Peace  and  Summary  Convictions,  having 
been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee ;  and  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time: — 

Bill  (No.  21),  To  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  City  of  Stratford 
and  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Company  of  Canada. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-day. 


200  9TH  MARCH.  1910 

Bill  (No.  41),  Respecting  the  City  of  Brantford  and  the  John  H.  Strat- 
ford Hospital. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-day. 

Bill  (No.  46),  Respecting  the  City  of  Windsor. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-day. 

Bill  (No.  6),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Barrie. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  27),  Respecting  By-law  No.  663  of  the  Town  of  Barrie. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  5),  To  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  Township  of  Tay  and 
the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Company  of  Canada. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  32),  Respecting  the  Township  of  Tay. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  16),  Tu  incorporate  the  Monarch  Railway  Company. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  169),  To  incorporate  the  Niagara  Falls,  Welland  and  Dunn- 
rille  Electric  Railway. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  18),  Respecting  the  People's  Railway. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  29),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  2116  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  42),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  2126  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines 
and  the  Agreement  therein  mentioned. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  56),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Durham. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  9TH  MARCH.  201 

Bill  (No.  7),  Eespecting  the  Town  of  Penetanguishene. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  43),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Kenora. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  93),  To  amend  an  Act  respecting  the  Township  of  York. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  203),  Respecting  Industrial  Schools. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  206),  Respecting  the  Executive  Council. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  210),  To  amend  the  Ontario  Railway  Act,  1906. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  211),  To  amend  the  Ontario  Railway  and  Municipal  Board  Act. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  213),  To  amend  the  Ontario  Game  and  Fisheries  Act. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  217),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act,  1903. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  208),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Law  Society  of  Upper 
Canada. 

Referred  to  the  Legal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  202),  To  amend  the  Motor  Vehicles  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  162),  The  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act,  1910. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


202  9TH  MARCH.  1910 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee,  severally  to  consider  the  fol- 
lowing Bills : — 

Bill  (No.  41),  Kespecting  the  City  of  Brantford  and  the  John  H.  Strat- 
ford Hospital. 

Bill  (No.  46),  Respecting  the  City  of  Windsor. 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  several  Bills  without  any  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bills  reported,  be  severally  read  the  third  time  To- 
morrow. 


The  House  again  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  ("No. 
171),  Respecting  the  Registration  of  Instruments  relating  to  Lands,  and  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson 
(Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill 
with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 
The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  ("No.  179), 
'the  Municipal  Drainage  Act,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  made  some  progress,  and  directed  him  to  ask  for  leave  to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  the  Committee  have  leave  to  sit  again  To-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  198),  To  amend 
the  Registry  Act,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 


On  motion  of  Sir  James  Whitney,  seconded  by  Mr.  Matheson,  it  was 

Resolved,  That  Rule  50  of  the  Assembly  be  repealed  and  the  following 
substituted  therefor : — 


Edw.  VII.  9TH  MARCH.  203 


LAW  CLERKS. 

50. — (1)   It  shall  be  the  duty  of  the  Law  Clerk  of  Public  Bills  as  the 
Senior  Officer — 

(a)  To  prepare  and  advise  upon  such  legislation  as  may  be  required 
by  the  Executive  Council  or  any  member  thereof. 

(b)  To  revise  print  and  put  marginal  notes  on  all  Public  Bills  ex- 
cept  those  to   amend  the   Municipal  or   Assessment  Acts   and 
those  usually  referred  to  the  Municipal   Committee   and  gen- 
erally to  be  responsible  for  the  correctness  of  all  such  Bills  in 
their  various  stages. 

(c)  To  report  to  the  Lieutenant-Governor  in  Council  any  provisions 
in  such  Public  Bills  deserving  of  special  attention  or  which 
appear  to  prejudicially  affect  the  public  interest  or  which  re- 
quire amendment. 

(d)  To  be  present  when  required  on  the  floor  of  tm-  House  when 
a  Public  Bill  other  than  one  to  amend  the  Municipal  or  Assess- 
ment Act,  or  one  referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee,  is  in 
Committee  of  the  Whole  House  and  to  revise  and  certify  every 
such  Bill  before  the  third  Reading. 

(e)  To  act  as  Secretary  of  the  Legal  Committee  and  when  the  Muni- 
cipal  and  Private  Bills   Committees   are   sitting   at  the   same 
time,  of  the  Private  Bills  Committee. 

(f )  To  prepare  after  the  close  of  the  Session  an  Index  of  the  Public 
Acts  for  the  Annual  Volume  of  Statutes. 

(g)  To  prepare   and  hand  to  the  Clerk  of  the  House,  Resolutions 
under  any  sections  of  such  Bills  which  appropriate  any  part  of 
the  Public  Revenue  or  any  tax  or  impost  to  any  purpose. 

(2)   It   shall   be  the  duty   of  the  Law  Clerk   of   Private  and   Municipal 
Bills— 

(a)  To  revise,  print  and  put  marginal  notes  upon  all  Private  Bills, 
Bills  to   amend  the   Municipal   or  Assessment   Act   and   Bills 
usually  referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee  and  generally  to 
be  responsible  for  the  correctness  of  all  such  Bills  in  their  vari- 
ous stages. 

(b)  To  see  that  Private  Bills  are  got  in  as  far  as  possible  before  the 
House  meets  and  that  the  Petitions  and  proofs  required  in  con 
nection  therewith  are  duly  filed. 


204  9TH  MARCH.  1910 


(c)  To  advise  the  Chairman  of  the  Standing  Orders  Committee  on 
such  Petitions  and  proofs. 

(d)  To  examine  every  Private  Bill,  every  Bill  to  amend  the  Muni- 
cipal or  Assessment  Act  and  every  Bill  usually  referred  to  the 
Municipal   Committee   and  if  the  Bill  contains   any  manifest 
error  or  impropriety  to  communicate  with  the  promoter  thereof 
with  a  view  to  its  correction  before  printing. 

(e)  To  report  to  the  Chairman  of  the  Private  Bills  Committee  any 
provisions  in  Private  Bills  which  are  at  variance  with  general 
Acts  on  the  subjects  to  which  such  Bills  relate  or  with  the  usual 
provisions  of  private  Acts  on  similar  subjects  and  any  provisions 
deserving  of  special  attention. 

(f )  To  report  to  the  Chairman  of  the  Municipal  Committee  on  all 
Bills  to  amend  the  Municipal  or  the  Assessment  Act  or  which 
may  be  referred  to  that  Committee. 

(g)  To  act  as  Secretary  of  the  Private    Bills    Committee    and    the 
Municipal  Committee. 

(h)  To  be  present  when  required  on  the  floor  of  the  House  when  any 
Private  Bill  or  a  Bill  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act  or  Assess- 
ment Act  or  a  Bill  referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee  is  in 
Committee  of  the  Whole  House  and  to  revise  and  certify  every 
such  Bill  before  the  third  Reading. 

(i)  To  see  that  the  annual  volume  of  the  Statutes  is  prepared  and 
printed  within  thirty  days  after  the  close  of  the  Session. 

(j)  To  prepare  and  hand  to  the  Clerk  of  the  House,  Resolutions  under 
any  sections  of  such  Bills  which  appropriate  any  part  of  the 
public  revenue  or  any  tax  or  impost  to  any  purpose. 

(k)  To  report  to  the  Clerk  of  the  House  any  Bills  which  should  be 
referred  to  the  Ontario  Railway  and  Municipal  Board  or  the 
Commissioners  of  Estates  Bills  under  Rules  6 Id  and  62. 

(3)  It  shall  be  the  duty  of  the  Chief  Clerk  of  Committees— 

(a)  To  call  together  all  Standing  and    Select    Committees    of   the 
House. 

(b)  To  keep  the  Private  Bills  Register. 

(c)  To  Act  as  Clerk  of  the  Railway  Committee  and  the  Standing 
Orders  Committee. 


Edw.  VIL  9TH  AND  10TH  MARCH.  205 


(d)   To  perform  such  matters  of  routine  as  may  be  assigned  to  him. 

2.  That  Rule  6  la  of  the  Assembly  be  amended  by  striking  out  the  last 
three  lines. 


Mr.  Hanna  presented  to  the  House,  by  command  of  His  Honour  the 
Lieutenant-Governor : — 

Report  upon  the  Feeble  Minded,  in  Ontario,  for  the  year  1909.  (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  23.) 

Also — Return  to^an  Order  of  the  House  of  the  Fourth  day  of  March,  1910, 
for  a  Return  of  copies  of  the  Reports  relating  to  the  cause  of  the  fire  in  the 
Parliament  Buildings.  (Sessional  Papers,  No.  68.) 

Also — Return  to  an  Order  of  the  House  of  the  Fourth  day  of  February, 
1910,  for  a  Return  shewing:  (a)  What  is  the  area  of  the  Gillies  Limit,  (b) 
How  much  of  the  area  has  been  reported  to  the  Government  to  be  mineralized. 
(c)  How  much  of  the  area  has  been  prospected,  (d)  How  much  of  the  area 
has  been  sold,  (e)  What  are  the  dates  of  the  respective  sales,  the  amount 
sold  in  each  case,  the  names  of  the  purchasers  and  the  prices  obtained  in  each 
case.  (Sessional  Papers,  No.  48.) 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  6.05  p.m. 


Thursday,  10th  March,  1.910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'Clock,  P.M. 

The  following  Petitions  were  read  and  received: — 

Of  the  County  Council  of.  the  United  Counties  of  Stormont,  Dundas  and 
Glengarry,  praying  for  certain  amendments  to  the  Act  to  prevent  the  spread 
of  Noxious  Weeds. 

Of  the  Township  Council  of  Wallace ;  also,  of  the  District  Labour  Coun- 
cil of  Toronto,  severally  praying  for  certain  amendments  to  the  Assessment 
Act,  respecting  the  Taxation  of  Farm  Buildings. 


206  10TH  MARCH.  1910 

Mr.  Hanna,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Municipal  Law,  presented 
their  Second  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and  report 
the  same  without  amendments: — 

Bill  (No.  165),  To  amend  the  Ditches  and  Watercourses  Act. 
Bill  (No.  188),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Light  and  Heat  Act. 

The  Committee  have  also  carefully  considered  the  following  Bill  and  re- 
port the  same  with  certain  amendments. 

Bill   (No.  84.),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Waterworks  Act. 


Mr.  Lucas,  from  the  Select  Committee  to  which  was  referred  Bill  (No. 
88),  Respecting  Telephone  Systems,  presented  their  Report  which  was  read 
as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  Bill  and  have  prepared 
certain  amendments  thereto. 


Mr.  Macdiarmid,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Agriculture  and 
Colonization,  presented  their  First  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  and 
adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  Bill  (No.  86),  To  amend  the 
Act  for  the  protection  of  Sheep  and  to  impose  a  Tax  on  Dogs  and  have  pre- 
pared certain  amendments  thereto. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill  (No.  223),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Act."     Mr. 
Duff. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  224),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  certain  Municipal  By-laws 
and  Agreements."    Mr.  Beck. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  IOTH  MARCH.  207 


Bill  (No.  225),  intituled  "An  Act  respecting  the  Hydro-Electric  Power 
Commission  of  Ontario."     Mr.  Beck. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (ISTo.  226),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Department  of  Educa- 
tion Act."     Sir  James  Whitney. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  227),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Land  Titles  Act."    Mr. 
Matheson. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  third  time  and  passed: — 
Bill  (No.  127),  Respecting  Short  Forms  of  Conveyances. 

Bill  (No.  128),  Respecting  Short  Forms  of  Leases. 
Bill  (No.  129),  Respecting  Short  Forms  of  Mortgages. 
Bill  (No.  131),  Respecting  Mortgage  of  Real  Estate. 
Bill  (No.  135),  Respecting  the  Limitation  of  Actions. 

Bill  (No.  55),  Respecting  Levying  and  Collecting  Tolls  on  the  Missis- 
sippi River. 

X 

Bill  (No.  41),  Respecting  the  City  of  Brantford  and  the  John  H.  Strat- 
ford Hospital. 

Bill  (No.  46),  Respecting  the  City  of  Windsor. 


wavs. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time: — 

Bill  (No.  209),  To  amend  the  Act  for  the  Improvement  of  Public  High- 


Referred  to  the  Municipal  Committee. 


208  IOTH  MARCH.  1910 

Bill  (No/215),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act. 
Referred  to  the  Legal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  221),  To  amend  the  Act  for  the  Prevention  of  Accidents  by 
Fire  in  Hotels  and  other  like  Buildings. 

Referred  to  the  Legal  Committee. 

Bill  (No.  218) ,  To  prevent  the  spread  of  Insect  and  Fungous  Diseases 
injurious  to  Vegetation. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  219).  Respecting  Certain  Public  School  Matters  in  the  City 
of  Toronto. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  222),  To  amend  the  Succession  .Duty  Act,  1909. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill(  ^o.  52),  To  amend  the  Act  incorporating  the  Fort  Erie  Ferry! 
Railway  Company  and  to  change  the  name  thereof  to  the  Buffalo  and  Forfc 
Erie  Ferry  and  Railway  Company. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  28),  To  incorporate  the  Hamilton  School  of  Anatomy. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  ,95),  Respecting  the  City  of  Guelph. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  44),  Respecting  Simcoe  Railway  and  Power  Company. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


Mr.  Stock  asked  the  following  Question: 

(1)  Has  the  Government  received  any  suggestion  or  recommendation 
that  "Lesson  Helps"  be  issued  to  be  used  in  connection  with  the  Public  School 
Readers.  (2)  If  so,  from  whom  have  such  suggestions  or  recommendations 
been  received.  (3)  Has  the  Department  of  Education  decided  to  issue  such 
"Lesson  Helps."  Is  it  the  intention  of  the  Department  of  Education  to 
withdraw  the  Public  School  Primer. 


Edw.  VII.  10TH  MARCH.  209 

To  which  the  Prime  Minister  replied  in  the  words  following: — 

(1)  Yes.  (2)  From  the  Consultative  Committee  which  assisted  in  the 
preparation  of  the  Headers.  (3)  That  has  been  its  intention  from  the  begin- 
ning and  much  of  the  material  is  now  ready.  (4)  No. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee,  severally  to  consider  the  fol- 
lowing Bills: — 

Bill  (No.  6),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Barrie. 

Bill  (No.  27),  Eespecting  By-law  No.  663  of  the  Town  of  Barrie. 

Bill  (No.  5),  To  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  Township  of  Tay 
and  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Company  of  Canada. 

Bill  (No.  32),  Respecting  the  Township  of  Tay. 

Bill  (No.  7),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Penetanguishene. 

Bill  (No.  43),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Kenora. 

Bill  (No.  93),  To  amend  an  Act  respecting  the  Township  of  York. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  several  Bills  without  any  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bills  reported,  be  severally  read  the  third  time  To- 
morrow. 


The  House  again  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No. 
179),  The  Municipal  Drainage  Act,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 
The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


210  10TH  MARCH.  1910 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  212), 
Respecting  the  Devolution  and  Distribution  of  Estates  and,  after  some  time 
spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville) 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain 
amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  203), 
Respecting  Industrial  Schools  and,  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  167), 
To  amend  the  Assessment  Act  and,  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 
The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  191), 
Respecting  Town  Sites,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  re- 
sumed the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 
The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  158), 
The  Public  Works  Act  of  Ontario,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the 
Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  IOTH  MARCH.  211 


Mr.  Hanna  presented  to  the  House,  by  command  of  His  Honour  the 
Lieutenant-Governor : — 

Report  of  the  Bureau  of  Mines  for  the  year  1909.      (Sessional  Papers, 
No.  4.) 

Also — Report  on  the  operation  of  the  Liquor  License  Acts,  Ontario,  for 

the  ^ear  1909.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  2T.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Agricultural  College  and  Experimental  Farm  for 
the  year  1909.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  29.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Ontario  Veterinary  College    for  the    year    1909. 
(Sessional  Papers,  No.  30.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Ontario  Agricultural  and  Experimental  Union    for 
the  year  1909.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  31.) 

Also--Report  of  the  Fruit  Growers'  Association    for  the    year    1909. 
(Sessional  Papers,  No.  32.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Fruit  Branch  for  the  year  1909.      (Sessional  Papers, 
No.  33.) 

Also — Report   of   the    Ontario   Vegetable   Growers   for  the   year   1909. 
(Sessional  Papers,  No.  34.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Ontario  Corn  Growers  for  the  year  1909.     (Session- 
al Papers,  35.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Entomological   Society  for  the  year   1909.     (Ses- 
sional Papers,  No.  36.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Bee  Keepers'  Association  for  the  year  1909.     (Ses- 
sional Papers,  No.  37.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Dairymen's  Association  for  the  year  1909.      (Ses- 
sional Papers,  38.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Horticultural  Societies  for  the  year  1909.     (Ses- 
sional Papers,  No.  44.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Bureau  of  Industries  for  the  year  1909.      (Sessional 
Papers.  No.  45.) 


212  10TH  MARCH.  19iO 

Also — Report  of  the  Inspectors  of  Factories  for  the  year  1909.  (Ses- 
'sional  Papers,  No.  46.) 

Also — Return  to  an  Order  of  the  House,  of  the  22nd  February,  1910,  for 
a  Return  shewing:  All  awards  by  any  Arbitrator  or  Board  of  Arbitration,  to 
settle  disputes  between  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission  and  those  over 
whose  lands  the  Commission  have  taken  easements.  (Sessional  Papers,  No.  69.) 

Also — Return  to  an  Order  of  the  House,  of  the  25th  February,  1910,  for 
a  Return  shewing:  The  total  amount  paid  for  inspection  and  overseeing  work 
done  on  building  Colonization  Roads  during  the  years  1908  and  1909.  (Ses- 
sional Papers,  No.  70.) 

Also — Return  to  an  Order  of  the  House,  of  the  25th  February,  1910,  for 
a  Return  shewing:  1.  The  amount  of  Provincial  money  (if  any)  loaned  to 
Municipalities  of  the  Province  for  Drainage  purposes  during  each  of  the  years 
1904  to  1909,  both  inclusive.  2.  The  names  of  the  Municipalities  and  the 
amount  loaned  to  each  in  each  of  the  said  years.  3.  The  rate  of  interest 
charged  the  Municipalities,  if  other  than  four  per  cent.  4.  The  Special  Grants 
(if  any)  given  to  Municipalities  for  Drainage  Schemes  during  the  said  years, 
the  names  of  the  Municipalities  to  which  given  and  the  amount  given  each. 
(Sessional  Papers,  No.  71.) 

Also — Return  to  an  Order  of  the  House,  of  the  16th  February,  1910,  for 
a  Return  shewing  the  number  of  permits  and  extensions  granted  to  Public 
School  Teachers  during  the  years  1908  and  1909: — (1)  The  reason  for  grant- 
ing such  permits  and  extensions.  (2)  How  many  of  the  Teachers  who 
received  permits  had  previously  taught.  (3)  The  ages  of  the  Teachers  who 
received  such  permits  and  extensions.  (Sessional  Papers,  No.  72.) 

Also — Return  to  an  Order  of  the  House,  of  the  3rd  March,  1910,  for  a 
Return  shewing  what  steps,  if  any,  the  Canadian  Northern  Ontario  Railway 
Company  has  taken  towards  the  building  of  a  section  of  the  Railway  into  the 
clay  belt  of  Northern  Ontario  in  aid  of  which  this  House  voted  to  the  Company 
at  its  last  Session  a  subsidy  of  four  thousand  acres  of  land  for  every  mile  of 
the  Railway  which  may  be  constructed  by  the  Company  on  certain  conditions 
among  others  that  operations  be  commenced  within  one  year  from  the  date 
of  the  passing  of  the  Act,  April  13th,  1909.  (Sessional  Papers,  No.  73.1 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  5.30  P.M. 


tidw.  V1L  HTH  MARCH.  213 

Friday,  llth  March,  1910. 
PEAYERS.  3  O'Clock,  P.M. 

The  following  Petition  was  brought  up  and  laid  upon  the  Table: — 
Mr.  Lucas,  The  Petition  of  the  District  Labour  Council  of  Toronto. 


Mr.  Lucas,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Private  Bills,  presented  their 
Ninth  Report,  which  was  re-ad  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and  report 
the  same  without  amendment : — 

Bill  (No.  99),  To  confirm  an  agreement  between  the    Town  of  Cobalt  and 
the  Township  of  Coleman. 

Bill  (No.  54),  To  incorporate  the  Port  Arthur  Young  Men's  Christian 
Association. 

The  Committee  have  also  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and 
report  the  same  with  amendments. 

Bill  (No.  20),  Respecting  the  Municipality  of  Shuniah. 

Bill  (No.  36),  Respecting  the  Monarch  Fire  Insurance  Company,  Cash, 
Mutual  and  Stock. 

Bill  (No.  39),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Brampton. 

Bill  (No.  173),  Respecting  the  Cobalt  Lake  Mining  Company,  Limited. 

Bill  (No.  53),  Respecting  the  City  of  Ottawa. 

Bill  (No.  45),  Respecting  the  City  of  Port  Arthur. 

Bill  (No.  34),  Respecting  the  City  of  Fort  William. 

Bill  (No.  38),  Respecting  the  City  of  Hamilton,  and 

Bill  (No.  59),  Respecting  the  City  of  Toronto. 


214  HTH  MARCH.  1910. 


The  Committee  recommend  that  the  fees,  less  the  actual  cost  of  printing, 
be  remitted  on  Bill  (No.  47),  To  incorporate  the  Osteopathic  College  of  On- 
tario, the  same  having  been  reported  adversely  by  Committee  on  Standing 
Orders. 


The  Committee  recommend  that  the  time  for  receiving  Reports  from 
Committees  relative  to  Private  Bills  be  further  extended  until  and  inclusive 
of  Tuesday  the  Fifteenth  day  of  March,  instant. 


Mr.  Hanna,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Municipal  Law,  presented 
their  Third  Keport,  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and  report 
thi.*  same  without  amendment: — 

Bill  (No.  197),  To  amend  the  Ontario  Municipal  Securities  Act,  1908. 

Bill  (No.  209),  To  amend  the  Act  for  the  Improvement  of  Public  High- 
ways. 

The  Committee  have  also  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and 
report  the  same  with  amendments: — 

Bill  (No.  183),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  Statute  Labour. 

Bill  (No.  207),  To  amend  the  Local  Municipal  Telephone  Act,  1908. 

The  Committee  have  also  carefully  considered  Bills  Numbers  60,  63,  66, 
70,  72,  74,  75,  77,  79,  81,  83,  92,  94,  97,  172,  175,  185,  190,  192,  195  and 
199,  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act  and  so  much  of  their  provisions  as  have  been 
approved  of,  have  been  embodied  in  a  Bill  intituled  "The  Municipal  Amend- 
ment Act,  1910." 


Ordered,  That  the  time  for  receiving  reports  from  Committees  relative  to 
Private  Bills  be  further  extended  until  and  inclusive  of  Tuesday  the  Fifteenth 
day  of  March,  instant. 


Ordered,  That  the  fees,  less  the  actual  cost  of  printing,  bo  remitted  on 
Bill  (No.  47),  Osteopathic  College. 


Edw.  VII.  HTH  MARCH.  215 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill  (No.  228),  intituled  "An  Act    respecting    Steam    Boilers."      Mr. 
Reaume. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  22.9),  intituled  "An  Act   respecting   Juvenile    Courts."      Mr. 
Hanna. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  230),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Liquor  License  Act."  Mr. 
Hanna. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  231),  intituled  "An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Companies  Act." 
Mr.  Hanna. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  on  Monday  next. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  third  time  and  passed : — 
Bill  (No.  113),  Respecting  Disputes  concerning  Boundary  Lines. 
Bill  (No.  143),  Respecting  Limited  Partnerships. 

Bill  (No.  176),  To  amend  Temiskaming  and  Northern  Ontario  Railway 
Act. 

Bill  (No.  64),  To  amend  the  High  Schools  Act. 

Bill  (No.  191),  Respecting  Town  Sites. 

Bill  (No.  6),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Barrie. 

Bill  (No.  2T),  Respecting  By-law  No.  663  of  the  Town  of  Barrie. 

Bill  (No.  5),  To  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  Township  of  Tay 
and  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Company  of  Canada. 

Bill  (No.  32),  Respecting  the  Township  of  Tay. 


216  UTII  MARCH.  1910. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (Nov  145),  Respect- 
ing Mortgages  and  Sales  of  Personal  Property  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee ;  and,  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry  re- 
ported, That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  115),  Respect- 
ing the  Expenses  of  the  Administration  of  Justice  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  intq  the  Committee ;  and,  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry  re- 
ported, That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 


Mr.  McDougal  asked  the  following  Question: 

(1)  How  many  immigrants  came  to  Ontario  owing  to  Provincial  grants 
and  organization  in  (a)  1908;  (&)  1909.  (2)  From  whence  did  they  come. 

(3)  What  was  their  previous  employment.     (4)   How  many  went  on  to  farms. 
(5)   How  many  are  still  on  farms. 

To  which  the  Minister  of  Agriculture  replied  as  follows: — 

(1)  It  is  impossible  for  the  Government  to  know  definitely  how  many  im- 
migrants came  to  Ontario  owing  to  Provincial  grants  and  organization  in  1 908 
and  1909.  This  Government,  along  with  the  Government  of  Canada,  the  vari- 
ous steamship  and  railway  companies,  and  also  some  private  corporations,  are 
all  engaged  in  advertising  the  advantages  of  this  Province  in  Great  Britain 
and  Ireland,  and  all  doubtless  contribute  towards  inducing  immigrants  to  come 
to  the  Province  of  Ontario. 

Those  of  whom  we  have  record  was,  for  1908,  2,193;  for  1909,  2,042; 
(2)  From  Great  Britain  and  Ireland.  (3)  Fu7l  information  not  available. 

(4)  Of  those  on  record.  2,888  were  sent  to  farms      (5)    N"o  information. 


Edw.  VII.  HTH  MARCH.  217 


Mr.  McEwing  asked  the  following  Question: 

(1)  Is  it  the  intention  of  the  Government  to  reduce  passenger  rates  on 
the  T.  and  N.  O.  Railway  to  2  cents  per  mile.  (2)  Is  it  the  intention  of  the 
Government  to  reduce  the  present  freight  rates  on  the  T.  and  1ST.  O.  Railway. 

To  which  the  Minister  of  Public  Works  replied: — 

It  is  impossible  for  the  Government  to  come  to  any  definite  conclusion  aa 
to  future  passenger  and  freight  rates,  at  the  present  time,  on  the  Temiskaming 
and  Northern  Ontario  Railway. 

Mr.  Reed  (Wentworth)  asked  the  following  Question: 

(1)  What  issues  of  Debentures  have  been  made  for  Park  and  Water- 
works purposes  respectively,  by  the  Burlington  Beach  Commissioners.  (2) 
For  what  length  of  time  were  the  Debentures  issued  and  at  what  rate  of  in- 
terest. (3)  Through  whom  were  the  Debentures  sold  and  what  price  was 
realized  by  the  Commission.  (4)  Who  were  the  purchasers  in  each  case.  (5) 
What  commission  was  paid  in  each  case. 

To  which  the  Minister  of  Land,  Forests  and  Mines  replied  in  the  words 
following : — 

(1)  Debentures  for  Park  purposes,  none.  Debentures  for  Waterworks 
purposes,  $20,000,  in  September,  1908.  (2)  Payable  $1,000  yearly  for 
twenty  years,  with  interest  at  five  per  cent.  (3)  Through  the  Commission  and 
at  par.  (4)  The  Bank  of  Hamilton.  (5)  No  commission  was  paid. 


Mr.  Elliott  asked  the  following  Question: 

What  sums  of  money  have  been  given  by  the  Province  of  Ontario  to  Col- 
leges or  Universities  in  Ontario  during  each  of  the  years  1906,  1907,  1908  and 
1909,  with  the  particular  amount  given  to  each  in  each  year. 

To  which  the  Treasurer  replied  in  the  words  and  figures    following:— 

1906  "University  of  Toronto ~ $240,354.41 

School  Mining,  Kingston 37,000.00 

Queen's  University,  Kingston  (Medical  Faculty)   50,000.00 

1907  University  of  Toronto 340,474.50 

School  Mining,  Kingston 42,000.00 

Queen's  University,  Kingston  (Education  of  Teachers)  . .         5,000.00 

1908  University  of  Toronto   443,660.15 

School  Mining,  Kingston 42,000.00 

Queen's  University,  Kingston  (Education  of  Teachers)  .  .         9,000.00 


218  HTH  MARCH.  1910. 


1909     University  of  Toronto 508,131.99 

School  Mining,  Kingston   62,000.00 

Queen's  University,  Kingston  (Education  of  Teachers)   .  .         4,500.00 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  186), 
To  amend  the  Ontario  Medical  Act,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry  reported,  That  the  Committee 
had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  180), 
Respecting  the  Manufacture  and  Sale  of  Bread,  and  after  some  time  spent 
therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  165), 
To  amend  the  Ditches  and  Watercourses  Act,  and  after  some  time  spent  there- 
in, Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry  reported,  That  the 
Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  188),  To 
amend  the  Municipal  Light  and  Heat  Act,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee,  severally  to  consider  the 
following  Bills : — 

Bill  (No.  21),  To  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  City  of  Stratford 
and  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Company  of  Canada. 

Bill  (No.  16),  To  incorporate  the  Monarch  Railway  Company. 

Bill  (No.  169),  To  incorporate  the  Niagara  Falls,  Welland  and  Dunnville 
Electric  Railway. 


Edw.  VII.  HTH  MARCH.  219 

Bill  (No.  18),  Kespecting  the  People's  Railway. 

Bill  (No.  29),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  2116  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines. 

Bill  (No.  42),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  2126  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines 
and  the  Agreement  therein  mentioned. 

Bill  (No.  56),  Kespecting  the  Town  of  Durham. 

Bill  (No.  28,)  To  incorporate  the  Hamilton  School  of  Anatomy. 

Bill  (No.  95),  Eespecting  the  City  of  Guelph. 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Clark  (Bruce)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  several  Bills  without  any  amend- 
ments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bills  reported,  be  severally  read  the  third  time  on  Mon- 
day next. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  100), 
Respecting  the  Fees  of  certain  Public  Officers,  and  after  some  time  spent  there- 
in, Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  McGarry  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  218), 
To  prevent  the  spread  of  Insect  and  Fungous  Diseases  Injurious  to  Vegetation, 
and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr. 
McGarry  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill 
without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  219), 
Respecting  certain  Public  School  matters  in  the  City  of  Toronto,  and  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any 
amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 


220  HTH  MARCH.  1910. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  206), 
Respecting  the  Executive  Council,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry  reported,  That  the  Committee 
had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  213), 
To  amend  the  Ontario  Game  and  Fisheries  Act,  and  after  some  time  spent 
therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  on  Monday  next. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time: — 

Bill  (No.  224),  Respecting  certain  Municipal  By-laws  and  Agreements. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill    (No.   225),  Respecting  the  Hydro-Electric  Power   Commission  of 
Ontario. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  226),  To  amend  the  Department  of  Education  Act. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 

Bill  (No.  227),  To  amend  the  Land  Titles  Act. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Monday  next. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  220),  With 
respect  to  Compensation  to  Workmen  for  Injury  suffered  in  the  course  of 
Employment,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  4.45  P.M. 


Edw.  VII.  14TH  MARCH.  221 

Monday,  14th  March,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  3  O'CLOCK,  P.M. 

The  following  Bill  was  introduced  and  read  the  first  time: — 

Bill    (No.    233),  intituled  "An  Act   to   amend   the   Act  respecting   the 
Government  House  Property."     Sir  James  Whitney. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  To-morrow. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  third  time  and  passed: — 
Bill  (No.  151),  To  establish  the  Algonquin  National  Park  of  Ontario. 

Bill  (No.  107),  Eespecting  Procedure  before  Justices  of  the  Peace  and 
Summary  Convictions. 

Bill  (No.  168),  To  amend  the  Landlord  and  Tenants  Act. 

Bill  (No.  163),  To  incorporate  the  Hurontario  Kailway  Company. 

Bill  (No.  7),  Kespecting  the  Town  of  Penetanguishene. 

Bill  (No.  43),  Eespecting  the  Town  of  Kenora. 

Bill  (No.  93),  To  amend  an  Act  respecting  the  Township  of  York. 

Bill  (No.  186),  To  amend  the  Ontario  Medical  Act. 

Bill  (No.  180),  Eespecting  the  Manufacture  and  Sale  of  Bread. 

Bill  (No.  165),  To  amend  the  Ditches  and  Watercourses  Act. 

Bill   (No. '188),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Light  and  Heat  Act. 

Bill  (No.  21),  To  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  City  of  Stratford 
and  the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Company  of  Canada. 

Bill  (No.  16),  To  incorporate  the  Monarch  Railway  Company. 

Bill  (No.  169),  To  incorporate  the  Niagara  Falls,  Welland  and  Dunnville 
Electric  Railway. 

Bill  (No.  18),  Eespecting  the  People's  Eailway. 

Bill  (No.  29),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  2116  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines. 


222  14TH  MARCH.  1910. 

Bill  (No.  42),  To  confirm  By-law  No.  2126  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines 
and  the  Agreement  therein  mentioned. 

Bill  (No.  56),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Durham. 

Bill  (No.  28),  To  incorporate  the  Hamilton  School  of  Anatomy. 

Bill  (No.  95),  Respecting  the  City  of  Guelph. 

Bill  (No.  100),  Respecting  the  Fees  of  certain  Public  Officers. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  104),  Respecting 
Police  Magistrates  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hoyle 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  206),  Respect- 
ing the  Executive  Council  Laving  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Sir.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr  Clark 
(Bruce)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended,  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  reacl  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  147),  Respect- 
ing Contracts  in  relation  to  Goods  in  the  possession  of  Agents  and  others  having 
been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 


Edw.  VII.  14TH  MARCH.  223 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr  Clark 
(Bruce)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time  and  passed. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  tHe  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  119),  Respect- 
ing Constables  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  thej 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Clark 
(Bruce)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (Ko.  171),  Respect- 
ing the  Registration  of  Instruments  relating  to  Lands  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hearst 
reported,  That  the  Committee  hacl  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  158),  The  Pub- 
lic Works  Act  of  Ontario  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hearst 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 


224  MTH  MARCH.  1910. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  Order  of  the'Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill.  (JSTo.  212),  Respect- 
ing  the  Devolution  and  Distribution  of  Estates  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
Borne  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hearst 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  again  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No. 
140),  Respecting  the  County  Courts  and  District  Courts  and  after  some  time 
spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Lennox  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  made  some  progress,  and  directed  him  to  ask  for  leave  to 
si l  again. 

Resolved,  That  the  Committee  have  leave  to  sit  again  to-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  116), 
Respecting  the  Division  Courts,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Lennox  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed 
him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  196), 
To  amend  the  Judicature  Act,  and,  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Lennox  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed 
him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  152),  Respect- 
ing the  Queen  \rictoria  Niagara  Falls  Park  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith! 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 


Edw.  VII.  MTH  MARCH.  225 


The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Lennox 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  115),  Kespect- 
ing  the  Expenses  of  the  Administration  of  Justice  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Lennox 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  217), 
The  Municipal  Amendment  Act,  1910,  and,  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Lennox  reported,  That  the  Committee 
had  made  some  progress,  and  directed  him  to  ask  for  leave  to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  the  Committee  have  leave  to  sit  again  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  222), 
To  amend  the  Succession  Duty  Act,  190,9,  and,  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Lennox  reported,  That  the  Committee 
had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow.  \ 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  84), 
To  amend  the  Municipal  Waterworks  Act  and,  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Lennox  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  197), 
To  amend  the  Ontario  Municipal  Securities  Act,  1908,  and,  after  some  time 


226  14TH  MARCH.  1910. 


spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Lennox  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  209), 
To  amend  the  Act  for  the  Improvement  of  Public  Highways  and,  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Lennox  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amend- 
ment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  183),, 
To  amend  the  Act  respecting  Statute  Labour  and,  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Lennox  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  52),  To 
amend  the  Act  incorporating  the  Fort  Erie  Ferry  Railway  Company  and  to 
change  the  name  thereof  to  the  Buffalo  and  Fort  Erie  Ferry  and  Railway 
Company  and,  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair; 
and  Mr.  Lennox  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him.  to  report  the 
Bill  without  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  44), 
Respecting  Simcoe  Railway  and  Power  Company  and,  after  some  time  spent 
therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mi.  Lennox  reported,  That  the 
Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 
The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time: — 

Bill  (No.  228),  Respecting  Steam  Boilers. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


Edw.  VII.  14TH  MARCH.  227 

Bill  (No.  223),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act,  1903. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  229),  Respecting  Juvenile  Courts. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill(]$To.  231),  To  amend  the  Ontario  Companies  Act. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  99),  To  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  Town  of  Cobalt  and 
the  Township  of  Coleman. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


Bill   (No.  '54),  To  incorporate  the  Young  Men's  Christian  Association, 
Port  Arthur. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


Bill  (No.  20),  Respecting  the  Municipality  of  Shuniah. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  36),  Respecting  the  Monarch  Fire  Insurance  Company,  Cash. 
Mutual  and  Stock. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  39),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Brampton. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  173),  Respecting  the  Cobalt  Lake  Mining  Company,  Limited. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  53),  Respecting  the  City  of  Ottawa. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  45),  Respecting  the  City  of  Port  Arthur. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


228 


15TH  MARCH.  1910 


Bill  (No.  34),  Eespecting  the  City  of  Fort  William. 
Keferred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  38),  Kespecting  the  City  of  Hamilton. 
Keferred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


Mr.  Hanna  presented  to  the  House,  by  command    of    His    Honour    the 
Lieutenant-Go  vernor : — 

Report  of  the  Minister  of  Lands,  Forests  and  Mines,  for  the  year  1909. 
(Sessional  Papers,  No.  3.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Provincial  Municipal  Auditor,  for  the  year  1909. 
(Sessional  Papers,  No.  8.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Bureau  of  Labour,  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  15.) 

Also — Report  upon  the  Common  Gaols,  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  25.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Department  of  Agriculture,  for  the  year  190.9.    (Ses- 
sional Papers,  No.  28.) 

Also — Report  of  the  Bureau  of  Colonization,  for  the  year  Il/u9.     (Ses- 
sional Papers ,  No.  74). 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  5  P.M. 


Tuesday,   15th  March,   1910. 
PRAYEBS.  3  O'CLOCK,  P.M. 

Mr.  Lucas,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Legal  Bills,  presented  their 
First  Report  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  have  carefully  considered  the  following  Bill  and  report 
the  same  with  certain  amendments : — 


Edw.  VII.  15TH  MARCH.  229 


Bill  (No.  174),  To  revise  and  amend  the  Chartered  Accountants  Act 

The  Committee  have  also  carefully  considered  the  following  Bills  and 
report  the  same  without  any  amendment: — 

Bill  (No.  200),  To  further  amend  the  Pharmacy  Act. 

Bill  (No.  208),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Law  Society  of  Upper 
Canada. 

Bill  (No.  18,9),  To  amend  the  Ontario  Railway  and  Municipal  Board 
Act,  1906. 


Mr.  Lucas,  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Private  Bills,  presented 
their  Tenth  Report  which  was  read  as  follows  and  adopted. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  the  fees,  less  the  actual  cost  of  printing, 
be  remitted  on  Bill  (No.  57),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Trenton,  and  on  Bill 
(No.  177),  Respecting  the  City  of  Toronto,  the  same  having  been  withdrawn 
by  the  promoters  thereof. 

Your  Committee  also  recommend  that  the  fees,  less  the  actual  cost  of 
printing,  be  remitted  on  Bill  (No.  54),  To  incorporate  the  Port  Arthur  Young 
Men's  Christian  Association,  on  the  ground  that  the  Bill  is  one  relating  to  an 
Educational  or  Religious  Institution. 


Ordered,  That  the  fees,  less  the  actual  cost  of  printing,  be  remitted  on 
the  following  Bills:  (No.  57),  Town  of  Trenton;  (No.  177),  City  of  Toronto, 
and  (No.  54),  Port  Arthur  Y.  M.  C.  A. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  third  time  and  passed: — 
Bill  (No.  206),  Respecting  the  Executive  Council. 

Bill  (No.  203),  Respecting  Industrial  Schools. 

Bill  (No.  52),  To  amend  the  Act  incorporating  the  Eort  Erie  Ferry  Rail- 
way Company  and  to  change  the  name  thereof  to  the  Buffalo  and  Fort  Erie 
Ferry  and  Railway  Company. 

Bill  (No.  44),  Respecting  Simcoe  Railway  and  Power  Company. 


230  IOTH  MARCH.  1910. 

Bill  (No.  222),  To  amend  the  Succession  Duty  Act,  1909. 

Bill  (No.  84),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Waterworks  Act. 

Bill  (No.  197),  To  amend  the  Ontario  Municipal  Securities  Act,  1908. 

Bill  (No.  209),  To  amend  the  Act  for  the  Improvement  of  Public  High- 
ways. 

Bill  (No.  183),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  Statute  Labour. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  104),  Respect- 
ing  Police  Magistrates  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson 
(Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Matheson,  seconded  by  Mr.  Hanna, 

Ordered,  That  the  House  do  forthwith  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  of 
the  Whole  to  consider  a  certain  proposed  Resolution  respecting  the  Assurance! 
Fund  under  the  Land  Titles  Act. 


Sir  James  Whitney  acquainted  the  House  that  His  Honour  the  Lieu- 
ten  ant-Governor,  having  been  informed  of  the  subject  matter  of  the  proposed 
Resolution  recommends  it  to  the  consideration  of  the  House. 


Edw.  VII.  IOTH  MARCH.  231 

The  House  then  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That  all  money  paid  under  subsection  2  of  section  130  of  the 
Land  Titles  Act,  as  re-enacted  by  3  Edw.  VII. ,  c.  12,  s.  5,  and  in  Court  at  the 
credit  of  the  "Assurance  Fund  under  The  Land  Titles  Act"  account  and  all 
money  hereafter  payable  under  the  said  subsection  shall  on  his  demand  be  paid 
to  the  Treasurer  of  Ontario,  and  the  Treasurer  shall  on  receipt  of  such  money 
issue  to  the  Accountant  of  the  Supreme  Court  in  trust,  Ontario  Government 
Stock  to  an  amount  equal  to  the  sum  or  sums  so  received,  and  such  stock  shall 
represent  the  "Assurance  Fund  under  The  Land  Titles  Act"  and  be  available 
for  the  same  purposes.  j 

That  the  stock  referred  to  shall  be  payable  or  redeemable  at  such  time  and 
shall  be  subject  to  such  conditions  as  to  inscription,  registration  and  transfer 
thereof  as  the  Lieutenant-Governor  in  Council  may  deem  advisable,  and  shall 
bear  interest  at  the  rate  of  two  and  one  half  per  centum  per  annum. 

That  the  said  stock,  together  with  the  interest  thereon,  shall  be  charged 
upon  and  paid  out  of  the  Consolidated  Kevenue  Fund. 

That  all  sums  which  become  payable  out  of  the  said  "Assurance  Fundl 
under  The  Land  Titles  Act,"  shall  to  the  extent,  but  not  exceeding  the  amount, 
of  such  fund  be  paid  by  the  Treasurer  of  Ontario  to  the  persons  entitled  thereto, 
out  of  the  Consolidated  Revenue  Fund,  on  the  production  of  the  Order  of  the 
Court  or  Judge  authorizing  or  directing  the  payment  to  be  made  or  of  a  cer^ 
tified  copy  thereof,  and  the  sums  so  paid  out  shall  be  credited  as  payments  ofl 
account  of  the  stock  in  the  hands  of  the  Accountant,  and  the  amount  thereof 
shall  be  reduced  accordingly. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  come  to  a  certain  Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  now  received, 

Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported  the  Resolution  as  follows: — 

Resolved,  That  all  money  paid  under  subsection  2  of  section  130  of  the 
Land  Titles  Act,  as  re-enacted  by  3  Edw.  VII.,  c.  12,  s.  5,  and  in  Court  at  the 
credit  of  the  "Assurance  Fund  under  The  Land  Titles  Act"  account  and  all 
money  hereafter  payable  under  the  said  subsection  shall  on  his  demand  be  paid 
to  the  Treasurer  of  Ontario,  and  the  Treasurer  shall  on  receipt  of  such  money 
issue  to  the  Accountant  of  the  Supreme  Court  in  trust,  Ontario  Government 
Stock  to  an  amount  equal  to  the  sum  or  sums  so  recovered,  and  such  stock  shall 
represent  the  "Assurance  Fund  under  The  Land  Titles  Act"  and  be  available 
for  the  same  purposes. 

That  the  stock  referred  to  shall  be  payable  or  redeemable  at  such  time  and 
shall  be  subject  to  such  conditions  as  to  inscription,  registration  and  transfer 


232  15TH  MARCH.  1910. 


thereof  as  the  Lieutenant-Governor  in  Council  may  deem  advisable,  and  shall 
bear  interest  at  the  rate  of  two  and  one  half  per  centum  per  annum. 

That  the  said  stock  together  with  the  interest  thereon,  snail  be  charged 
upon  and  paid  out  of  the  Consolidated  Revenue  Fund. 

That  all  sums  which  become  payable  out  of  the  said  "Assurance  Fund 
•under  The  Land  Titles  Act/'  shall  to  the  extent,  but  not  exceeding  the  amount, 
of  such  fund  be  paid  by  the  Treasurer  of  Ontario  to  the  persons  entitled  thereto, 
out  of  the  Consolidated  Revenue  Fund,  on  the  production  of  the  Order  of  the 
Court  or  Judge  authorizing  or  directing  the  payment  to  be  made  or  of  a  cer- 
tified copy  thereof,  and  the  sums  so  paid  out  shall  be  credited  as  payments  on 
account  of  the  stock  in  the  hands  of  the  Accountant,  and  the  amount  thereof 
shall  be  reduced  accordingly. 


The  Resolution  having  been  read  the  second  time,  was  agreed  to,  and  re- 
ferred to  the  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Bill  (No.  227),  To  amend 
The  Land  Titles  Act. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  219),  Respect- 
ing Certain  Public  School  matters  in  the  City  of  Toronto  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson 
(Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  116),  Respect- 
ing the  Division  Courts  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith* 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after1 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair:  and  Mr.  Ferguson 
(Grenville)  reported  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 


Edw.  VII.  15TH  MARCH.  233 


The  House  again  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No. 

140),  Respecting  the  County  Courts  and  District  Courts  and  after  some  time 
spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville) 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  curia*^ 
amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 


The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

i 

The  House  again  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No. 
217),  The  Municipal  Amendment  Act,  1910,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  227), 
To  amend  the  Land  Titles  Act,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  .Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  2328), 
Respecting  Steam  Boilers  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  re- 
sumed the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee 
had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  22.9), 
Respecting  Juvenile  Courts,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair:  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered.  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


15TR  MARCH.  1910. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  231), 
To  amend  the  Ontario  Companies  Act,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  that  the 
Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  lorihwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  SG), 
To  amend  the  Act  for  the  Protection  of  Sheep  and  to  impose  a  Tax  on  Dogs, 
and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr. 
Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  re- 
port the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  to-morrow. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  31), 
Respecting  the  City  of  Fort  William,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported,  That  the  Committee 
had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  we  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


Mr.  Stock  asked  the  following  Question: 

1.  How  many  convictions  have  been  made  in  the  Province,  under  the 
Motor  Vehicles  Act,  during  the  years  1908  and  1909.  2.  What  are  the  mimo* 
of  the  convicted  and  of  the  convicting  Magistrates.  3.  The  amounts  of  the 
fines  and  costs  imposed  and  the  number  of  the  imprisonments. 


Edw.  VII.  15TH  MARCH.  235 


To  which  the  Provincial  Secretary  replied  in  the  words  and  figures  fol- 
lowing : — 

Fine  &  costs 

Name  of  and  number 

Date.  Name  of  Convicted.  Convicting  Address.        of  imprison- 

Magistrate.  ments. 

Aug.  5,  1909 O.  S-  Barker T.  H.  Lloyd Newmarket $1. 

June  5,  1909 Graham    McLaurin . .  George  O'Keef e    Ottawa 

June  7,  1909 Welland  Woodruff  ..Alexander  Fraser  ..Niagara      Falls, 

Ont 

Sept.  22,  1909 F.     D.     Featherston- 

haugh    P.  V.  ZHlis    Toronto    $15. 

Oct.  29,  1909 M.  A.  Benjamin R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

July  27,  1909 Edward  Brown    John  A.  Ramsden  ..Toronto    Suspended 

sentence. 

Aug.  27,  1909 Allan   Shore    J.  i  ohen    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  23,  1909 Wm.  M.  Adams   P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Oct.  22,  1909 W.   Newsome    R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.    22,    1909 J.  J.  Main P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Oct.  27,  1909 William  Hyslop R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Oct.    4,    1909 A.G.Randall R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Oct.  20,  1909 M.  A.  Kennedy R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Nov.    24,    1909 M.A.Kennedy P.  V.  Ellis   Toronto    $15. 

Aug.  20,  1909 Chas.  S.  Murray   ...  P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  29,  1909 R.  J.  Hanna   R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto $5. 

Oct.    7,    1909 Michael  Kennedy  . . .  R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Oct.  15,  1909 Ira   Bates    R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Oct.  14,  1909 H.  B.  Greening   Geo.  F.  Jelf s Hamilton 

Sept.  15,  1909 W.  A.  Scctt P.V.Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Nov.  5,  1909 A.  C.  Knight   R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

June  30,  1909 William  Hyslop P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $2. 

Dec.   17,   1909 George  Snevenson    .  .R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Sept.  25,  1909. ; W.  J.  Clark L.  A.  Smith Ottawa    $25. 

May  31,  1909 Charles  Sturgeon  ...W.  C.  Dobie   Port  Arthur $10  &  costs 

($2.25). 

Aug.  13,  1909 S.  H.  Wheeler   P.   V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Oct.  28,  1909 H.  G-  Saunders R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

June  22,  1909 William  Hislop    Francis  Love    London 

Oct.  1,  190-9 Horace   Tonks    R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $2. 

Sept.  9,  1909 H.   Galbraith    P.V.Ellis  Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  27,  1909 Edward  Rawson    . .  .P.  V.  Ellis  Toronto   $20  &  costs. 

Sept.  4,  1909 William  Stone   Geo.  Fred  Jelfs   Hamilton  $20. 

Oct.  18,  1909 Thomas  Kerr   R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Oct.  8,  1909 L.  B.  Howland R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.  9,  1909 A.   G.   Hartrick    P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $2. 

Aug.  5,  1909 F.  Wainwright Geo.  Fred  Jelfs   Hamilton $10. 

June  23,  1909 Richard  Watt Francis  Love    London 

Oct.  14,  1909 J.  M.  Young  Geo.  Fred  Jelfs  Hamilton 

Sept.  29,  1909 A.   Orr    R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $5. 

Nov.  6,  1909 Dr.  J.  Winnett R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto   $15  &  costs. 

Sept.  8,  1909 G.  E.  Henderson   . .  .R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  27,  1909 D.   J.    Sellers    P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Nov.  4,  1909 George  S.  Gray R.  E.  Kingsford  .  . .  .Toronto    $15. 

Oct.  22,  1909 George  S.  Gray R.    E.    ingsford    Toronto    $10. 

Oct.  11,  1909 George  S.  Gray R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.  13,  1909 James    Holmes    ...  .H.  F.  Holland   Cobourg $20  &  costs. 

Oct.  14,  1909 Paul  J.   Myler    Geo.  Fred  Jelfs   Hamilton 

Oct.    7,   1909 T.   F.  Kerr    R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Nov.  3,  1909 R.  N.  N.  Mclntyre.  .R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Oct.  22,  1909 G.  B.  McGillivray   .  .R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Aug.  20,  1909 Wm.   A.   Manion P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

July  16,  1909 N.   A.   Bell    P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Oct.  14,  1909 R.    S.   Morris    Geo.  Fred  Jelfs   Hamilton 

Sept.  22,  1909 David  Elliott   P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  30,  1909 J.  W.  Commeford  ..R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

June  1,  1909 W.  H.  A.  Fraser  ....  George  O'Keefe   Ottawa 

Sept.  25,  1909 Charles  W.  F.  GorrellL.  A.  Smith Ottawa  $25. 


IOTH  MARCH.  1910. 


Fine  &  costs 

Name  of 

and  number 

Date.                Name  of  Convicted.           Convicting 

Address.        of  imprison- 

Magistrate. 

ments. 

Aug.  20,  1909 J.  A.  Walker   P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Nov.  3,  1909 Walter   Spanner    . .  .R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Sept.  17,  1909 James  Curry    P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5 

Aug.  3,  1909    T.    L.   Wilson P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Oct.   29,   1909    Burton  W.  Young. .  .W.  C.   Livingston. .  .Brantford    $17  costs. 

Aug.  27,  1909   Geo.   P.   McGann....J  Cohen   Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  16,  1909   Geo.  K.  McGuire   ...P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  16,  1909   J.    L.    Smith Geo.  Fred  Jelfs   Hamilton  $20. 

Sept.  14,  1909   H.  J.  Petrie Geo.  Fred  Jelfs   Hamilton $30. 

Oct.   20,   1909    J.   J.   Brown R.    E.    Kingsford    ..Toronto    $10. 

Oct.  20,  1909  Arthur  Pogson R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

July  17,  1909    Dr.  Geo.  A.  Field   ..H.  F.  Holland    Cobourg  $1. 

Aug.  20,  1909    Fred  W.  Hudson P.   V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Oct.   27,   1909    Sheppard    McHenry.R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Aug.  23,  1909 Norman   Bellman Toronto    $5. 

Dec.  1,  1909    W.  J.  Trethwey R-  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

July  6,  1909    J-  H.  Kammerer A.  B.  Foran   Winona    $10. 

Sept.  23,  1909 Charles  Smith    P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Oct.   15,   1909    F.  W.  Baillie R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Nov.  5,  1909   T.   S.  Kerr    R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Sept.  29,  1909   J.  0.  H.  Denny Charles   E.   Riggins.Beamsville $10. 

Sept.  17,  1909   T.  A.  N.  Powell P.   V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  1,  1909  W.    L.    Small P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  2,  1909   John  A.  McKee   P-  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  27,  1909  John  A.  McKee   R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto $5. 

Oct.  1,  1909  William  A.  Kemp. .  .R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  18,  1909   F.  E.  Mutton P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Dec.  6,  1909 J.  Curry R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Oct.  18.  1909   J.    Curry    R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

July  20,  1909   W.  H.  Morgan   P.  V.   Ellis    .  . .  Toronto    $5. 

Oct.  14,  1909 John  Hallam Hamilton 

Aug.  27,  1909  Frank  B.  Dineen  ...J.  Cohen    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  30,  1909   Edward  Hensey P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  15,  1909 E.   Howsey    P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $2. 

Oct.  4,  1909   M.    f.   Ryan    R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Nov.  19,  1909   Geo.   E.   Millichamp.R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Aug.  20,  1909   Ernest  J.  Livington.P-   V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Nov.  4,  1909 W.  J.  Evans R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Aug.  11,  1909 Valmer  Armstrong  . .  James  E.  Hoover   . .  Selkirk $20. 

Oct.    29,    1909 J-  A.  Harvey R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Nov.  26,  1909 John  King P.V.Ellis    Toronto    $15. 

^ug.  31,  1909 Thomas  Southworth .  P-   V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  13,  1909 Geo.  M.  Kennedy P.   V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  23,  1909 E.  R.  McCall P.V.Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  7,  1909 R.  E.  McCall P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Oct.  18,  1909 Gordon  Donnelly  . . .  R-  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Oct.  22,  1909 Gordon  Donnelly  . . .  R-  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.  22,  1909 E.  B.  Ryckman P-    V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  9,  1909 Charles  Band p-  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  9,  1909 Charles  W.  Band p-  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  22,  1909 C.  W.  Band p-  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  10,  1909 A.  J.  Gough P-    v.  Ellis    Toronto    ... $2. 

Aug.  30,  1909 Vincent   Brennan    ..G.  J.  Leggatt   Windsor $25. 

Sept.  29,  1909 P.  A.  Manning Charles  E.  Riggins . .  Beamsville    $10. 

Aug.  26,  1909 Russel  A.  Alger G.  J.  Leggatt   Windsor  $10. 

Sept.  1.  1909 Andrew  Martin   R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Aug.  9,  1909 J.  J.  Dawson P.V.Ellis    Toronto    $2. 

Aug.  25,  1909 Walker  Bell    P.    V.    Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  3,  1909 F.  J.  Ure  E.  E.  Harvey   Norwich $20. 

Sept.  14,  1909 D.  Ryan   G.  F.  Jelfs    Hamilton  ......  $30. 

Oct.  4,  1909 O.  A.  Cole  R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.  17,  1909 S.  N.  Hughes  P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $2. 

June  1,  1909 Russell  Blackburn  . .  Geo.    O'Keefe    Ottawa  $20. 


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Fine  &  costs 

Name  of  and  number 

Date.                Name  of  Convicted.           Convicting              Address.        of  imprison- 

Magistrate.  ments. 

July  23,  1909 Arthur  G.  Penman ..  P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Oct.   29,   1909 R.  Y.  Eaton   R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Oct.  15,  1909 R.  Y.  Eaton    R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    

Oct.  20,  1909 P.  J-  Mulqueen    . . . .  W.  C.  Livingston Brantofrd    

Oct.  29,  1909 P.  J.  Mulqueen W.  C.  Livingston Brantford    $10. 

Sept.  28,  1909 P.  J.  Mulqueen Joseph  C.  McFarland.Queensville  $20. 

Oct.  22,  1909   iff.  Backrack R.  E.  Kingsford   . .  .Toronto    $10. 

July  22,  1909 Fred  W.  Bates P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  24,  1909 .Arthur  Pogson P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Nov.  5,  1909 W.  R.  Travers   R-  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Sept.  29,  1909 Mrs.  H.  C.  Hammond.  R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $5. 

Nov.  3,  1909 A.  M.  Grantham    . .  .R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Sept.    27,    1909 A.  M.  Grantham P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept,  24,  1909 ..  A.  M.  Grantham P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  7,  1L>09 SIgmund  Samuels  . .  P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  24,  1909 William  Hall    P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    '. $5. 

Oct.  29,  1909 J.  Ross  Robertson.  .R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Dec.  10,  1909 A.  G.  Williams J.  Cohen    Toronto    $15. 

Nov.  3,  1909 D.  B.  Hanna R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Oct.  28,  1909 R.  B.  Holden R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.  14,  1909 Solomon  Lorie  P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  27,  1909 Andrew  Wilson  P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Aug  6,  1909 Noel   Marshall    P.  V.  Ellis' Toronto    $5. 

Dec.  9,  1909 E.  L.  Ruddy  R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Oct.  22,  1909 J.  A.  MacDonald  . .  .R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Oct.  29,  1909 J.  J.  Vaughan R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Oct.  27,  1909 P.   Parker    R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Oct.  7,  1909 P.  Parker R.  E.  Kingsford  .  . .  -Toronto    $10. 

Nov.  3,  1909 .Mrs.  T.  M.  Harris  .  .R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Sept.  3,  190*9 C.  A.  Wilson p.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  3,  1909 J.  R.  Hoidge p.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

July  22,  1909 John  A.  Carrick   ...p.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Oct.  4,  1909 Ernest  Glassco R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Dec.  15,  1909 Harry  H.  Love R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Oct.  11,  1909 J.  J.  Walsh R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto $10. 

Oct.  15,  1909 W.  J.  Hand R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Nov.  23,  1909 Robt.  E.  Kammerer.p.   y.   Ellis    Toronto    $15. 

July  20,  1909 Frank  Frope p.  V.   Ellis    ....... .Toronto    $5. 

Oct.  21,  1909 Marcelle  Morgan  . .  .R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Aug.  27,  1909 Charles  D.  Smith j.   Cohen    Toronto    $5. 

Oct.  15,  1909 W.  W.  Bigley R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

July  20,  190'9 W.  G.  Beamish p.  y.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  22,  1909 Wm.  G.  Beamish  . .  .p.  y.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  20,  1909 Wm.  J.  Marshall p.  y.   Ellis    .  . . . . . .  .Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  30,  1909   Geo.  Puddy   R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Aug.  9,  1909 A.  G.  Penman Chas.  E.  Riggins  .  .  .Beamsville    .... 

Aug.  30,  1909 A.  Penman    p.  y.  Ellis Toronto    $5. 

Oct.  22,  1909   George  Lawrence  . .  .R.  E.  Kingsford  . . .  .Toronto    $10. 

Oct.  1,  1909 A.  T.  Reid R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Dec.   2,   1909 Wm.  Randle  Brown. Francis  Love London $5. 

Sept.  15,  1909   Mrs.  John  Taylor  .  .P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $2. 

Aug.  13,  1909 Francis  W.  Staples.  .Francis  Love    ..      ..London     $1. 

Sept.  13,  1909 A.   S.   Oakley    p.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Oct.  12,  1909 Alfred  S.  Oakley R.  E.  Kingsford  .    .  .Toronto    $10. 

Aug.  27,  1909 E.  A.  English J.    Cohen    Toronto    $5. 

Oct.  29,  1909 T.  D.  Cameron  R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

July  21,  1909 Daniel  T.  Cameron.. P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $2. 

July  20,  1909 T.  D.  Cameron P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  18,  1909 J1.  D.  Cameron P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

July  17,  1909 Fred  Cleaver    P.  V.   Ellis    ...Toronto    $5. 

Dec.   3,   1909 Ivan  Champion    W.  C.  Livingston ' ! ! Brantford    $5. 

Oct.  6,  1909 J.  W.  Champion    ...  A.  B.  Foran   Winona    $10. 

Sept.  14,  1909 Fred  D.  Barber   . . .  .G.  F.  Jelfs Hamilton $20. 


238  15TH  MARCH.  1910. 


Name  of 
Date.                Name  of  Convicted.           Convicting 
magistrate. 

Fine  &  costs 
and  number 
Address.        of  imprison- 
ments. 

Sept.  27,  1909 Chas.  W.  Jones P.  V.  Ellis  Toronto    $5 

Oct.  11,  1909 Charf.  Jones R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    ! . " ."  $10 

Aug.  27,  1909 A.  McCready J.  Cohen    Toronto    . . "  $5 

Sept.  14,  1909 Thomas  Sutten P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    ..." 

Sept.    22,    1909 A.    G.   Randall. .....  P.  V.  Ellis  Toronto    .  . 

Aug.    30,    1909 A.   G.   Randall P.V.Ellis  Toronto    ... 

Sept.    20,    1909 A.   G.   Randall P.V.Ellis  Toronto    $5' 

July  23,   1909 Alex.  Gondier p.  V.  Ellis  Toronto    $5 

Oct.  22,  1909 A.  G.  Randall  R.   E.   Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.    9,    1909 Wm.   Brown    P.V.Ellis  Toronto    $5. 

Nov.  1,  1909 J.  G.  Robinson R.   E.   Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.    29,    1909 W.  F.  Dineen  R.   E.   Kingsford Toronto    $5. 

Sept.    14,    1909 F.  W.  Scott Geo.  F.  Jelfs Hamilton $20. 

Aug.    23,    1909 Wm.   M.  Long    p.  V.  Ellis  Toronto    $5 

Sept.    1,    1909 W.   J.   Fletcher    P.V.Ellis Toronto    $5! 

Aug.  26,  1909 J.   H.  Callahan    G.  J.  Leggatt   Windsor $10. 

Aug.  20,  1909 Auto   Express   CO...G.    J.    Leggatt Windsor $10. 

Jan.   19,   190<9 G.   S.  Abrey    R.   E.   Kingsford Toronto    $5. 

May  20,  1909 Thomas  Morel    Geo.    O'Keef  e    Ottawa 

Aug.  20,  1909 ^eo.  C.  Heintzman . .  p.  V.  Ellis  Toronto    $5. 

Sept.    14,   1909 Edward    Mclntosh. .  p.  V.  Ellis   Toronto    $5. 

Sept.    3,    1909 W.  S.  Dinnick   p.  V.  Ellis   Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  22,  1909 W.  S.  Dinnick   p.  V.  Ellis  . . . . Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  20,  1909 W.  S.  Dinnick   p.  V.  Ellis   Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  23,  1909 C.    S.    Pote    p.  V.  Ellis   Toronto    $2. 

Oct.    15,    1909 W.  A.  Fish   R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Aug.  11,  1909 3eo.    Glendenning. . .  p.  V.  Ellis Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  14,  1909 R.  Dissette    C.  E.  Riggins  Beamsville 

Sept.    24,   1909 Rich.   Dissette    p.  V.  Ellis  Toronto    $5. 

Sept.    27,    1909 Rich.   Dissette    p.  V.  Ellis  Toronto    $5. 

Nov.  16,  1909 Jos.  Noel    Geo.   Sharpe    Ottawa   $20. 

May  26,   1909 Allan  G.  Mather   . . .  Geo.    O'Keef  e    Ottawa   $20. 

Oct.    15,    1909 Mrs.  K.  S.  Hamlin. .  R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

July  20,  1909 Tames  E.  Gillies p.  v.  Ellis Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  12,  1909 W.  N.  McEachren  ...  p.  V-   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  4,  1909 .  W.  N.  McEachren  . . .  Isaac  Fenton Sutton,   West. . .  $25. 

Dec,   1,  1909 Norman  Fraser   ....  R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Aug.  23,  1909 Wm.  R.  Pattison  . . . Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  25,  1909 James  Murray p.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.    29,    1909 William  Newey   R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  25,  1909 A.  G.  Randall p.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  6.  1909 J.  B-  Forrester p.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $2. 

Aug.  16,  1909 David  Bishop   p.   V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  25,  1909 James  Murray    p.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  25,  1909 A.  G.  Randall p.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  16,  1909 J.  A.  Marshall    p.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Nov.  17,  190;9 Frank  Babcock R.  E.  Kingsford  ....  Toronto    $15. 

Oct.  4,  1909 R.  B.  Fudger   R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $5. 

Nov.  26,  1909 Wm.  W.  Near P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $15. 

Sept.  15,  1909 W.  W.  Near   p.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  17,  1909 R.  W.  Thompson   ...  p.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  31,  1909 J.  i,.  Vokes  P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $2. 

Nov.  1,  1909 Roy  Freeman   G.   F.  Jelfs    Hamilton 

Aug.  12,  1909 Samuel  Lavine p.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  19,  1909 Dominion  Bank,  cor. 

Yonge  and  King.  .  P.  J.  Woodcock   . . .  .Newmarket  ....  $20. 

Aug.  20,  1909 Oliver  Hazelwood  ...  P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $2. 

Sept.  29,  1909 W.  J.  Southam Chas.  E.  Riggins Beamsville    $10. 

Sept.  23,  1909 A.  F.  Hale Chas.  E.  Riggins Beamsville    $10. 

Oct.  8,  1909   Allan  F.  Hales R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.  2,  1909 Chas.  Little Geo.  F.  Jelfs Hamilton $20. 

Sept.  1,  1909 S.  B.  Cunningham  .  .Geo.  F.  Jelfs Hamilton $20. 

Nov.  16,  1909 R.  Mousseau   Geo.   Sharpe    Ottawa  $20. 

Nov.  5,  1909 J.  P.  Eastwood R.  E.  Kingsford  . . .  .Toronto    $15. 


Edw.  VIL  15TH  MARCH.  239 


Name  of 
Date.                 Name  of  Convicted.           Convicting 
Magistrate. 

Fine  &  costs 
and  number 
Address.        of  imprison- 
ments. 

July  26,  1909 J.  T.  Eastwood P.   V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Nov.  24,  1909 vV.  J.  Edmanson  ....  P.   V.   Ellis    Toronto    $15. 

Sept.  2,  1909 Thomas  Orrell   P.   V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  6,  1909 John  A.  Melbourne. .  P.  V.  Ellis  Toronto    $5. 

July  15,   1909 Norman    'GooderhamP.  V.  Ellis Toronto    $5. 

Oct.    13,    1909 Norman    GooderhamR.   E.   Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.    20,    1909 H.  M.  Harris   P.V.Ellis  Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  13,  1909 E.  J.  Humphrey P.  V.  Ellis   Toronto    $5. 

Sept.    25,    1909 Mrs.  T.  G.  McLaurinL.  A.  Smith Ottawa   $25. 

Nov.  16,  1909 Geo.    Gillespie Geo.   Sharpe    Ottawa $20. 

Dec.   22,   1909 John  F.  Brown    R.   E.   Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Nov.    3,    1909 James  F.  Brown R.   E.   Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Sept.    8,    1909 C.    Morris    Chas.  E.  Riggins  . .  .Beamsville 

Oct.  7,  1909 J.  Oakley  R.   E.   Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.    22,    1909 R.  H.  Fairweather. .  P.  V.  Ellis  Toronto $5. 

Aug.  25,  1909 Geo.  Weston   P.   V.   Ellis Toronto    $5. 

Oct.    7,    1909 W.  B.  Markle R.    E.    Kingsford Toronto    $20. 

Oct.    22,    1909 Mrs.  A.   M.   Asling..R.    E.   Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Nov.  19,  1909 F.  E.  Kilvert    R.   E.   Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Oct.    1,    1909 F.  E.  Kilvert   R.   E.   Kingsford Toronto    $2. 

Sept.    10,    1909 R.  G.  Bryan   P.  V.  Ellis   Toronto    $2. 

Sept.    15,    1909 W.    R.    Wadsworth. .  P.  V.  Ellis  Toronto    $5. 

Sept.    15,    1909 Allan  F.  Hales p.  V.  Ellis  Toronto    $10. 

Aug.  20,  1909 Frank    Probesco G.  J.  Leggatt   Windsor $10. 

Sept.    29,    1909 Thomas  C.  Keefer,  Jr. Geo.  Sharpe Ottawa  $20. 

Sept.    15,    1909 Joseph  Fox   P.  V.  Ellis  Toronto    $5. 

Sept.    16,    1909 T.   E.   Martin    P.V.Ellis Toronto    $5. 

Oct.    7,    1909 E.  C.  Burson    R.   E.   Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.    10,    1909 S.   L.  Thome    P.V.Ellis   Toronto    $2. 

Sept.    3,    1909 J.   Western    P.V.Ellis  Toronto    $5. 

Oct.  11,  1909 W.   M.  Wortman    . . .  Francis  Love London     $5. 

Oct.    8,    1909 A.  Simpson R.  E.  Kingsford  ....  Toronto    $15. 

Sept.    29,    1909 Jerome  F.  O'Connor.  Chas.  E.  Riggins  ..  .Beamsville    $10. 

Nov.  4,  1909 Wm.  H.  Gueat  R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Nov.  4,  1909 F.  B.  Robin R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Sept.    16,    1909 D.  A.  Lochrie p.  V.  Ellis  Toronto    $5. 

Dec.  3,  1909 Hanson  J.  Jones R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Nov.  26,  1909 W.   H.   Pearce    p.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $15. 

Dec.    1,    1909    A.  G.  Randall R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Nov.  3,  1909 S.  O.  Murchison R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Nov.  22,  1909 Chas.  Ashland    R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Sept.  30,  1909 A.  E.  Wilson   R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.  16,  1909 A.E.Wilson   P.    v.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Nov.  22,  1909 Geo.  L.  Vivian R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Oct.  28,  1909 William  Hyslop R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.  6,  1909 Wm.  Hyslop   R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $10. 

Sept.  22,  1909 Wm.  Hyslop   P.   V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  23,  1909 Geo.  S.  Britnell P.V.Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  24,  1909 W.  H.  Smith P.  V.  Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Nov.  5,  1909 Geo.  Childs   R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

May   26,  1909 Pink,  McVeity  &  Co .  J.  E.  Askwith Ottawa 

Sept.  25,  1909 Allan   LaSalle    L.  A.  Smith   Ottawa   $25. 

Dec.  6,  1909 Oliver  Hazelwood   . .  R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

July  23,  1909 0.  Hazelwood P.  V.   Ellis    Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  2,  1909 John  W.  Hand P.   V.   Ellis    Toronto    $2. 

Sept.  28,  1909   Victor  Pogue    R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $5. 

May  24,  1909 Henry  Lucas Isaac  W.  Plumb Prescott   $20. 

Nov.  16,  1909 Claude  Tennant R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $15. 

Sept.  7,  1909 F.  G.  Kay R.  H.  Holland Port  Hope $5. 

Sept.    29,    1909 Alex.  McLean  R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $5. 

Sept.  25,  1909 Davenport  Brouse  . .  Douglas  Davidson  . .  Mimico $2. 

Aug.  28,  1909 Albert  Johnson    ...    A.  B.  Foran   Winona $10. 

Sept.  29.  1909 Herbert  Kipp,  Jr.   . .  R.  E.  Kingsford Toronto    $5. 

Aug.  17.  1909 J.  W.  Gibson    D.  Davidson    Mimico $2 


240  15TH  MARCH.  1910. 


CHAUFFEUR   CONVICTIONS. 

Fine  &  costs 

Name  of  and  number 

Date.  Name  of  Convicted.  Convicting  Address.        of  imprison- 

Magistrate.  ments. 

July  21,  1909 Law  Whiteley H.  F.  Hollands Cobourg     $1. 

Sept.  29,  1909 M.  Charbonneau    . . .  Geo.  Sharpe Ottawa   $20. 

July  12,  1909   Ben.t-Carr  Beli   T.  A.  O'Rourke   Trenton    $10. 

Aug.  13,  1909 A.  C.  Field D.  C.  Dobie Port  Arthur $10. 

Sept.   29,   1909 Gordon  C.  Edwards. Geo.  Sharpe Ottawa   $20. 

Aug.  7,  1909 W.  G.  Dean Isaac  Fenton    Sutton,  West   . .  $25. 

July  13,  1909 James  Moore H.  F.  Holland Cobourg  $2. 

July  14,  1909 Benjamin  Hough  . . .  H.  F.  Holland Cobourg  $2. 

Dec.  14,  190.9 Wm.   Mahon    Francis  Love    London    $5. 

July  14,  1909 Harry  McMichael   ..H.F.Holland Cobourg   $2. 

June  22,  1909 R.  F.  Yule H.  F.  Holland Cobourg $5  &  costs. 

May,  15,  1909 James  Leitch    G.  J.  Leggatt   Windsor $10. 

Aug.  18,  1909 Arthur  Meddick T.  J.  Woodcock Newmarket $40. 

July  27,   1909 Fred    Jacob    G.  J.  Leggatt   Windsor  $10. 

Sept.   29,    1909 Cameron  M.  EdwardsGeo.  Sharpe Ottawa $20. 

July  31,  1909 Alex.  Foss  Isaac  W.   Plumb Prescott  $10. 

Sept.    30,   1909 Allan  G.  Mather Geo.     Sharpe   Ottawa $20. 

Nov.  16,  1909 Sidney  P.  ClemmensGeo.   Sharpe   Ottawa $20. 

Sept.   7,   1909 A.  E.  Hamilton   R.H.Holland Port  Hope $5. 

July  10,  1909 G.   T.  Bishop    Isaac  Plumb  Prescott $10  &  costs. 

Sept.    29,   1909 Dennis  Murphy  Geo.  Sharpe    Ottawa   $20. 

Total    amount    of    fines. $2,911  00 

Total  number  of  convictions 332 

Number   of   imprisonments None. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee,  severally  to  consider  the  fol- 
lowing Bills : — 

Bill  (No.  99),  To  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  Town  of  Cobalt  and 
the  Township  of  Coleman. 

Bill   (No.  54),  To  incorporate  the  Young  Men's  Christian  Association, 
Port  Arthur. 

Bill  (No.  20),  Eespecting  the  Municipality  of  Shuniah. 

Bill  (No.  36),  Eespecting  the  Monarch  Fire  Insurance  Company,  Cash, 
Mutual  and  Stock. 

Bill  (ISTo.  39),  Eespecting  the  Town  of  Brampton. 
Bill  (No.  53),  Eespecting  the  City  of  Ottawa. 
Bill  (No.  45),  Eespecting  the  City  of  Port  Arthur. 
Bill  (No.  38),  Eespecting  the  City  of  Hamilton. 


Edw.  VII.  15TH  MARCH.  241 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  several  Bills  without  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bills  reported,  be  severally  read  the  third  time  To- 
morrow. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  226), 
To  amend  the  Department  of  Education  Act,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amend- 
ment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-morrow. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  second  time : — 

Bill    (No.   233),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Government  House 
Property. 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  59),  Respecting  the  City  of  Toronto. 
. .     Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 

Bill  (No.  230),  To  amend  the  Liquor  License  Act. 
Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  To-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  House  to  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee 
of  the  Whole  to  consider  Bill  (No.  80),  To  amend  the  Act  respecting  Statute 
Labour,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  181),  Respect- 
ing Mortmain  and  the  Disposition  of  Land  for  Charitable  Uses,  having  been 
read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  .Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  214),  To  amend 
the  Ontario  Railway  Act,  1906,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  \vithclrawn. 


242  15TH  MARCH.  1910. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  second  reading  of  Bill  (No.  216),  To  amend 
the  Ontario  Medical  Act,  having  been  read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  House  to  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  of 
the  Whole  on  Bill  (No.  223),  To  amend  the  Municipal  Act,  1903,  having  been 
read, 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 


Mr.  Proudfoot  moved, 

That  Bill  (No.  89),  To  amend  the  Liquor  License  Act,  be  now  read  the 
second  time. 

Mr.  Hanna  moved  in  Amendment,  second  by  Mr.  Reaume, 

That  all  the  words  of  the  motion  after  the  first  word  "That"  be  omitted, 
and  there  be  substituted  therefor  the  following,  "  it  is  the  duty  of  the  Legisla- 
ture to  take  such  steps  as  will  minimize  the  drink  evil  in  this  Province;  that 
to  this  end  the  provisions  of  the  Liquor  License  Act  relating  to  Local  Option 
have  been  enacted  and  have  worked  well  and  this  House  has  confidence  that 
such  changes,  as  experience  in  the  operation  of  the  said  provisions  may  show 
to  be  necessary  or  desirable,  either  in  relation  to  the  majority  necessary  to 
bring  the  By-law  into  effect,  or  in  other  respects  will,  from  time  to  time,  be 
proposed  by  the  Government  for  the  consideration  of  this  House  and  this  House 
accordingly  orders  that  the  said  Bill,  be  not  now  read  a  second  time,  but  be 
read  a  second  time  on  this  day  six  months." 

And  the  Amendment,  having  been  put  to  the  House,  was  declared  to  be 
carried  on  a  Division. 

The  Main  Motion,  as  amended,  having  been  then  proposed,  the  same  was 
carried  upon  a  Division. 

And  it  was 

Resolved,  That  it  is  the  duty  of  the  Legislature  to  take  such  steps  as  will 
minimize  the  drink  evil  in  this  Province;  that  to  this  end  the  provisions  of 
the  Liquor  License  Act  relating  to  Local  Option  have  been  enacted  and  have 
worked  well  and  this  House  has  confidence  that  such  changes,  as  experience 
in  the  operation  of  the  said  provisions  may  show  to  be  necessary,  or  desirable, 
either  in  relation  to  the  majority  necessary  to  bring  the  By-law  into  effect  or 
in  other  respects  will,  from  time  to  time,  be  proposed  by  the  Government  for 


Edw.  VII.  15TH  MARCH.  243 


the  consideration  of  this  House,  and  this  House  accordingly  orders  that  the 
said  Bill  be  not  now  read  a  second  time,  but  be  read  a  second  time  this  day  six 
months. 


On  motion  of  Sir  James  Whitney,  seconded  by  Mr.  Matheson, 

Resolved,  That  wjheii  this  House  adjourns  To-day,  it  do  stand  adjourned 
until  Two  of  the  Clock  in  the  afternoon  on  Wednesday,  the  Sixteenth  instant. 


Mr.  Hanna  presented  to  the  House 

A  Return  to  an  Order  of  the  House  of  the  Twenty-fourth  day  of  February, 
1910,  for  a  Return  shewing: — 1.  The  names  of  the  gentlemen  who  compose  the 
Commission  for  the  Revision  of  the  Statutes.  2.  The  total  cost  of  the  Revision 
to  date,  showing  in  detail,  the  persons  to  whom  and  on  what  account  the  money 
was  paid.  3.  When  will  the  Statutes  be  completed.  4.  What  steps  have  the 
Government  taken  to  induce  or  insist  on  the  Commissioners  completing  their 
work  at  an  early  date.  (Sessional  Papers,  No.  75.) 

Also — A  Return  to  an  Order  of  the  House  of  the  Twenty-fifth  day  of 
February,  1910,  for  a  Return  shewing: — 1.  When  was  the  resignation  of  the 
late  Game  Warden,  T.  A.  Hand,  accepted.  Was  it  voluntary,  or  was  he  forced 
to  resign.  2.  What  moneys  had  been  collected  by  the  said  Hand  and  not  ac- 
counted for  or  returned  and  if  Fishermen  had  fished  and  Hunters  had  hunted 
on  receipts  only  given  by  the  said  Hand.  If  so,  the  amount  of  money  unac- 
counted for  and  the  number  of  such  receipts  given  and  to  whom,  together  with 
copies  of  all  correspondence  covering  the  matters  referred  to  in  this  clause. 

3.  All  correspondence  in  connection  with  the  resignation  of  the  said  Hand. 

4.  All  moneys  collected  by  the  said  Hand  during  the  years  1907  and  1908  and 
of  all  moneys  collected  by  the  present  officer,  A.  Calbeck,  during  the  year  1909, 
together  with  the  names  of  the  persons  from  whom  the  said  collections  were 
made.      (Sessional  Papers,  No.  76.) 

Also — A  Return  to  an  Order  of  the  House  of  the  Thirtieth  day  of  March, 
1909,  for  a  Return  shewing : — 1.  How  often  had  the  present  Government  been 
asked  for  permission  to  institute  an  action  in  cases  where  a  Fiat  was  necessary. 
2.  How  often  had  such  permission  been  granted.  3.  In  what  cases.  4.  How 
often  was  such  permission  refused.  5.  In  what  cases.  (Sessional  Papers, 
No.  77.) 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  6.15  P.M. 


244  16TH  MAKCII.  19.10. 

Wednesday,  16th  March,  1910. 
PRAYEES.  2  O'CLOCK,  R  M. 

The  following  Petition  was  read  and  received: — 

Of  the  District  Labour  Council  of  Toronto,  praying  for  certain  amend- 
ments to  the  Assessment  Act,  respecting  Taxation  of  Farm  Buildings. 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  173), 
Respecting  the  Cobalt  Lake  Mining  Company,  Limited,  and  after  some  time 
spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  59), 
Respecting  the  City  of  Toronto,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  To-day. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  88),  Re- 
specting Telephone  Systems,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed 
him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 
The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  207), 
To  amend  the  Local  Municipal  Telephone  Act,  1906,  and  after  some  time  spent 
therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  re- 
ported, That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain 

amendments. 
I 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 


Edw.  VII.  IGxii  MARCH.  245 


The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  174), 
To  revise  and  amend  the  Chartered  Accountants  Act,  and  after  some  time 
spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville) 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain 
amendments. 

Ordered,,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 
The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  200), 
To  amend  the  Pharmacy  Act,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker 
resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  208), 
To  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Law  Society  of  Upper  Canada,  and  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson 
(Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill 
without  any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 

The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  189), 
To  amend  the  Ontario  Railway  and  Municipal  Board  Act,  1906,  and  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Hoyle  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  any  amend- 
ment. 

Ordered,  That  the-  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 


246  16TH  MARCH.  1910. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  233), 
To  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Government  House  Property,  and  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Gren- 
ville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with- 
out any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 

The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

I 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  210), 
To  amend  the  Ontario  Eailway  Act,  1906,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 
The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 

( 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  211), 
To  amend  the  Ontario  Kailway  and  Municipal  Board  Act,  and  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Gren- 
ville) reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with 
certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 
The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 


Mr.  MacKay  (Grey)  moved,  seconded  by  Mr.  Stock, 

That  in  the  opinion  of  this  House  the  Province  and  the  municipalities 
should  unite  in  (a)  the  establishment  of  Technical  Schools  in  the  towns  and 
cities  in  Ontario  to  supplement  the  practical  training  of  the  workshop;  (&)  in 
an  arrangement  as  to  the  basis  of  support  for  such  schools  as  between  the 
Province,  the  municipalities  and  interested  manufacturers;  (c)  the  establish- 


Edw.  VII. 


16TH  MARCH. 


247 


ment  in  large  industrial  centres  of  Technical  High  Schools,  and  that  the  powers 
of  the  municipalities  should  be  enlarged  so  as  to  enable  them  to  aid  in  the  sup- 
port of  such  schools. 

Mr.  Hendrie  moved  in  Amendment,  seconded  by  Mr.  Beck, 

That  all  the  words  of  the  motion,  after  the  first  word  "  That "  be  omitted 
and  that  there  be  substituted  therefor,  the  following:  "this  House  appreciates 
the  efforts  already  made  by  the  Government  of  the  Province  with  reference  to 
Technical  Education  and  Training  Schools  and  desires  to  express  its  confidence 
that  upon  the  publication  of  the  information  to  be  gathered  by  the  Commission 
about  to  be  appointed  by  the  Dominion  Government  to  enquire  into  the  subject, 
the  question  will  be  further  dealt  witfh  by  the  Government  of  the  Province 
without  delay  and  in  the  best  interests  of  all  concerned/' 

And  the  Amendment,  having  been  put,  the  same  was  carried  on  the  follow- 
ing division: 

YEAS. 


Anderson 

Aubin 

Beck 

Bowyer 

Brower 

Calder 

Charters 

Clark   (Bruce) 

Cochrane 

Craig 

Dargavel 

Devitt 

Donovan 

Doyle 

Duff 

Eilber 


Messieurs : 


FergUSOn  (Simcoe) 
Ferguson  (Grenviile 

Fisher 

Fox 

Fraser 

Fripp 

Gallagher 

Galna 

Grigg 

Hanna 

Hearst 

Hendrie 

Hoyle 

Innes 

Jamieson 

Jessop 


Johnson 

Lackner 

Lennox 

Lucas 

McCowan 

McGarry 

McKeown 

McNaught 

McPherson 

Mason 

Matheson 

Morel 

Musgrove 

Neely 

Nickle 

Nixon 


Norman 
Pattinson 
Paul 
Pharand 

Preston  (Durham> 
Preston  (Lanark) 

Reaume 

Richardson 

Ross 

Shaw 

Shillington 

Smellie 

Sulman 

Torrance 

Whitesides 

Whitney 

Wilson— 65 


NAYS. 


Messieurs : 


Bowman  McCormick 

Clarke  (North'm'nd)  McDougal 

Elliott  McEwing 

Kohler  MacKay  (Grey) 


McCart 


Mayberry 
Proudfoot 
Racine 

Reed  (Wentworth) 


Mackay   (Oxford)  Reid  (Renfrew) 


Stock 
Studholme 
Truax— 18 


248 


16TH  MARCH. 


1910. 


PAIRS. 


Machin  . 


....  Tudhope. 


The  Main  Motion  as  amended,  having  been  then  submitted,  the  same  was 
carried  on  the  following  division: 

YEAS. 
Messieurs : 


Anderson 

Aubin 

Beck 

Bowyer 

Brower 

Calder 

Charters 

Clark  (Bruce) 

Cochrane 

Craig 

Oargavel 

Devitt 

Donovan 

Doyle 

Duff 

Eilber 


Bowman 


Elliott 
Kohler 
McCart 


(Northum- 
berland) 


Ferguson  (jsimcoe) 

FergUSOn  Grenville 

Fisher 

Johnson 
Lackner 
Lennox 

Fox 

Lucas 

Fraser 

McCowan 

Fripp 
Gallagher 
Galna 
Grigg 
Hanna 

McGarry 
McKeown 
McNaught 
McPherson 
Mason 

Hearst 

Matheson 

Hendrie 

Morel 

Hoyle 
Innes 
Jamieson 

Musgrove 
Neely 
Nickle 

Jessop 

Nixon 

NAYS. 
Messieurs : 

McCormick  Mayberry 

McDougal  Proudfoot 

McEwing  Racine 

MacKay     (Gre  Reed    (Wentworth) 

Mackay     (Oxford) 


PAIRS. 


Norman 
Pattinson 
Paul 
Pharand 

Preston  (Durham) 
Preston    (Lanark) 

Reaume 

Richardson 

Ross 

Shaw 

Shillington 

Smellie 

Sulman 

Torrance 

Whitesides 

Whitney 

Wilson — 65 


Reid     (Renfrew) 

Stock 
Studholme 
Truax— 18 


Machin  .... 
And  it  was 


....  Tudhope. 


Resolved,  That  this  House  appreciates  the  efforts  already  made  by  the 
Government  of  the  Province  with  reference  to  Technical  Education  and  Train- 
ing Schools,  and  desires  to  express  its  confidence  that,  upon  the  publication 
of  the  information  to  be  gathered  by  the  Commission  a,bout  to  be  appointed 
by  the  Dominion  Government  to  inquire  into  the  subject,  the  question  will 
be  further  dealt  with  by  the  Government  of  the  Province  without  delay  and 
in  the  best  interests  of  all  concerned. 


Edw.  VII. 


3  GTH  MARCH. 


249 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  224), 
Respecting  certain  Municipal  By-laws  and  Agreements,  and  after  some  time 
spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville) 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without 
any  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (!N"o.  225), 
Respecting  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission  of  Ontario,  and  after  some 
time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Gren- 
ville) reported,  That  the  Committee  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  without 
any  amendment. 

Mr.  Beck  then  moved, 

That  the  Bill  be  now  read  the  third  time. 

Mr.  MacKay  (Grey),  moved  in  Amendment,  seconded  by  Mr.  McDougaL 

That  all  the  words  of  the  Motion,  after  the  word  "  That  "  be  omitted,  and 
the  following  substituted:  "the  Bill  be  not  now  read  the  third  time,  but  be 
forthwith  re-committed  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  with  instructions 
to  amend  the  same  by  striking  out  clause  4. 

And  the  Amendment,  having  been  put,  was  lost  upon  the  following 
Division : 


YEAS. 


Messieurs : 


Bowman 


(Northum- 

beriand) 


Elliott 
Kohler 
McCart 


McCormick 

McDougal 

McEwing 

MacKay     (Grey) 

Mackay     (Oxford) 


Mayberry 
Proudfoot 
Racine 

Reed  (Wentworth) 
Reid   (Renfrew) 


Stock 
Studholme 
Truax— 18 


250 


16TH  MARCH. 


1910. 


NAYS. 

Messieurs  : 

Anderson 

FergUSOn  (GrenvUle) 

Lackner 

Pattinson 

Aubin 

Fisher 

Lennox 

Paul 

Beck 

Fox 

Lucas 

Pharand 

Bowyer 

Fraser 

McCowan 

Preston  (Durham) 

Brower 

Fripp 

McGarry 

Preston  (Lanark) 

Calder 

Gallagher 

McKeown 

Eeaume 

Charters 

Galna 

McNaught 

Richardson 

Clark  (Bruce) 

Grigg 

McPherson 

Ross 

Cochrane 

Hanna 

Mason 

Shaw 

Craig 

Hearst 

Matheson 

Shillington 

Dargavel 

Hendrie 

Morel 

Smellie 

Devitt 

Hoyle 

Musgrove 

Sulman 

Donovan 

Innes 

Neely 

Torrance 

Doyle 

Jamieson 

fickle 

Whitesides 

Duff 

Jessop 

Nixon 

Whitney 

Eilber 

Johnson 

Norman 

Wilson—  65 

Ferguson  (simcoe) 

PAIRS. 


Machin  . 


Tudhope. 


The  Motion  for  the  third  reading,  having  been  then  again  proposed,  was 
then  carried  on  the  following  division : 


Anderson 

Aubin 

Beck 

Bowyer 

Brower 

Calder 

Charters 

Clark  (Bruce) 

Cochrane 

Craig 

Dargavel 

Devitt 

Donovan 

Doyle 

Duff 

Eilber 

FergUSOn  (Simcoe) 


YEAS. 

Messieurs  : 

FergUSOn  (Grenville) 

Fisher 

Lackner 
Lennox 

Fox 

Lucas 

Fraser 

McCowan 

Fripp 
Gallagher 
Galna 
Grigg 
Hanna 

McGarry 
McKeown 
McNaught 
McPherson 
Mason 

Hearst 

Matheson 

Hendrie 

Morel 

Hoyle 
Innes 
Jamieson 

Musgrove 
Neely 
Nickle 

Jessop 
Johnson 

Nixon 
Norman 

Pattinson 

Paul 

Pharand 

Preston  (Durham) 
Preston  (Lanark) 

Reaume 

Richardson 

Ross 

Shaw 

Shillington 

Smellie 

Sulman 

Torrance 

Whitesides 

Whitney 

Wilson— 65 


Edw.  VII. 


16TH  MAKCH. 


251 


NAYS. 


Messieurs : 


Bowman 


(Nortnum- 
beriand) 


Elliott 
Kohler 
McCart 


McCormick 
McDougal 
McEwing 
MacKay 
Mackay    (Oxford) 


Mayberry 
Proudfoot 
Racine 

Reed    (Wentworth) 


Reid    (Renfrew) 

Stock 
Studholme 
Truax— 18 


PAIRS. 


Machin  .    - 


Tudhope. 


And  the  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time  and  passed. 


Mr.  MacKay  (Grey)  moved, 

That  Bill   (No.   164),  To  amend  the  Power  Commission  Act  and  the 
Power  Commission  Amendment  Act,  1909,  be  now  read  the  second  time. 

And  the  Motion,  having  been  submitted  to  the  House,  was  lost  on  the 
following  division: 


YEAS. 


Messieurs : 


Bowman 


Elliott 
Kohler 
McCart 


(Northum- 
beriand) 


McCormick 

McDougal 

McEwing 

MacKay  (Grey) 


Maokay  (Oxford) 
Mayberry 
Proudfoot 
Racine 


Reed  (Wentworth) 
Reid   (Renfrew) 

Stock 
Truax— 17 


252 


16TH  MARCH. 


1910. 


Anderson 

Aubin 

Beck 

Bowyer 

Brower 

Calder 

Charters 

Clark    (Bruce) 

Cochrane 

Dargavel 

Devitt 

Donovan 

Doyle 

Duff 

Eilber 


NAYS. 
Messieurs : 


FergUSOD  (Grenvllle) 

Fisher 

Fox 

Fraser 

Fripp 

Gallagher 

Galna 

Grigg 

Hanna 

Hearst 

Hoyle 

Jamieson 

Johnson 

Lackner 

Lennox 


Lucas 

McCowan 

McGarry 

McKeown 

McNaught 

McPherson 

Mason 

Matheson 

Morel 

Musgrove 

Neely 

Nickle 

Nixon 

Norman 

Pattinson 


Paul 
Pharand 

Preston  (Durham) 
Preston  (Lanark) 

Eeaume 

Richardson 

Ross 

Shaw 

Smellie 

Studholme 

Sulman 

Whitesides 

Whitney 

Wilson— 59 


PAIRS. 
Machin  ....  .... 

And  so  it  was  declared  in  the  negative. 


Tudhope. 


On  Motion  of  Mr.  Hanna,  seconded  by  Mr.  Matheson, 

Resolved,  That  this  House  do  forthwith  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee 
of  the  Whole  to  consider  a  certain  proposed  Resolution  respecting  Wholesale 
Liquor  Licenses. 


Sir  James  Whitney  acquainted  the  House  that  His  Honour  the  Lieuten- 
ant-Governor,  having  been  informed  of  the  subject  matter  of  the  proposed 
Resolution  recommends  it  to  the  consideration  of  the  House. 


The  House  then  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee. 


Edw.  VII.  16TH  MARCH.  253 


(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That  Section  10  of  the  Act  passed  in  the  sixth  year  of  His 
Majesty's  reign,  chaptered  47,  be  amended  by  striking  out  all  words  therein 
beginning  with  the  words  "for  each  wholesale  license"  down  to  and  including 
the  figures  "  $350,"  and  substituting  therefor  the  words  "  for  each  wholesale 
license  $500." 

1 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (GrenviUe)  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  come  to  a  Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Keport  be  now  received. 

Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported  the  Kesolution  as  follows: — 

Resolved,  That  Section  10  of  the  Act  passed;  in  the  sixth  year  of  His 
Majesty's  reign,  chaptered  47,  is  amended  by  striking  out  all  words  therein 
beginning  with  the  words  "  for  each  wholesale  license  "  down  to  and  including 
the  figures  "$350,"  and  substituting  therefor  the  words  "for  each  wholesale 
license  $500." 


The  Resolution  having  been  read  the  second  time,  was  agreed  to,  and' 
referred  to  the  Committee  of  the  Whole  House  on  Bill  (No.  230),  To  amend 
the  Liquor  License  Act 


The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  230), 
To  amend  the  Liquor  License  Act,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein,  Mr. 
Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville)  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  dlirected  him  to  report  the  Bill  without  amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 


The  following  Bills  were  severally  read  the  third  time  and  passed: — 

Bill    (No.    115),    Respecting   the    Expenses   of   the    Administration   of 
Justice. 


254:  16TH  MARCH.  1910. 

Bill  (No.  118),  Bespecting  Justices  of  the  Peace. 

Bill  (No.  13.9),  For  Quieting  Titles  to  Eeal  Estate. 

Bill  (No.  130),  Respecting  the  Surrogate  Courts. 

Bill  (No.  152),  Respecting  the  Queen  Victoria  Niagara  Falls  Park. 

Bill  (No.  146),  Respecting  Liens  of  Mechanics,  Wage-earners  and  others. 

Bill  (No.  150),  The  Woodman's  Lien  for  Wages  Act. 

Bill   (No.   142),  Respecting  the  Registration  of  Partnerships. 

Bill  (No.  212),  Respecting  the  Devolution  and  Distribution  of  Estates. 

Bill  (No.  213),  To  amend  the  Ontario  Game  and  Fisheries  Act. 

Bill  (No.  196),  To  amend  the  Judicature  Act. 

Bill  (No.  140),  Respecting  the  County  Courts  and  Districts  Courts. 

Bill  (No.  217),  The  Municipal  Amendment  Act,  1910. 

Bill  (No.  226),  To  amend  the  Department  of  Education  Act. 

Bill  (No.  227),  To  amend  the  Land  Titles  Act. 

Bill  (No.  228),  Respecting  Steam  Boilers. 

Bill  (No.  229),  Respecting  Juvenile  Courts. 

Bill  (No.  231),  To  amend  the  Ontario  Companies  Act. 

Bill  (No.  86),  To  amend  t:he  Act  for  the  Protection  of  Sheep  and  to  Im- 
pose a  Tax  on  Dogs. 

Bill  (No.  99),  To  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  Town  of  Cobalt 
and  the  Township  of  Coleman. 

Bill   (No.  54),  To  incorporate  the  Young  Men's  Christian  Association, 
Port  Arthur. 

Bill  (No.  20),  Respecting  the  Municipality  of  Shuniah. 


Edw.  VII.  16TH  MARCH.  255 

Bill  (No.  36),  Respecting  the  Monarch  Fire  Insurance  Company,  Cash, 
Mutual  and  Stock. 

Bill  (No.  39),  Respecting  the  Town  of  Brampton. 
Bill  (No.  53),  Respecting  the  City  of  Ottawa. 
Bill  (No.  45),  Respecting  the  City  of  Port  Arthur. 
Bill  (No.  34),  Respecting  the  City  of  Fort  William. 
Bill  (No.  38),  Respecting  the  City  of  Hamilton. 
Bill  (No.  59),  Respecting  the  City  of  Toronto. 


The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  133),  To  amend 
the  Mercantile  Law,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend,  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  137),  Respecting 
Wills,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 


256  16TH  MARCH.  1910. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  179),  The  Muni- 
cipal Drainage  Act,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 

•i 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  167),  To  amend 
the  Assessment  Act,  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  218),  To  prevent 
the  spread  of  Insect  and  Fungous  Diseases  Injurious  to  Vegetation,  having 
been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whole,  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry 
reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 


Edw.  VII.  16TH  MARCH.  257 

The  Order  of  the  Day  for  the  third  reading  of  Bill  (No.  219),  Respecting 
Certain  Public  School  Matters  in  the  City  of  Toronto  having  been  read. 

Ordered,  That  the  Order  be  discharged,  and  that  the  Bill  be  forthwith 
again  referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  Whol<\  with  instructions  to  amend  the 
same. 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into  the  Committee;  and,  after 
some  time  spent  therein,  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  Ferguson 
(Grenville)  reported,  That  the  Committee  had  amended  the  Bill  as  directed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 
The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 


Mr.  Clark  (Bruce)  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Printing,  presented 
their  Second  Report,  which  was  read  as  follows  :  — 

The  Committee  recommend  that  the  following  Documents  be  printed: 

Report  of  the  Minister  of  Lands,  Forests  and  Mines  for  the  year  1009. 
(Sessional  Papers,  No.  3.) 

Report  of  the  Bureau  of  Mines  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional  Papers, 
~ 


Report  of  the  Inspector  of  Legal  Offices  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  7.) 

Report  of  the  Inspector  of  Registry  Offices  for  the  year  1909.      (Sessional 
al  Papers,  No.  7.) 

Report  of  the  Provincial  Municipal  Auditor  for  the  year  1909.       (Ses- 
sional Papers,  No.  8.) 

Report  of  the  Commissioners  for  the  Queen  Victoria  Niagara  Falls  Park 
for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  9.) 

Report  of  the  Bureau  of  Labour  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional  Papers, 
No.  15.) 

Report  of  the  Secretary  and  Registrar  of  the  Province  for  the  year  1909. 
(Sessional  Papers,  No.  18.) 


258  16TH  MARCH.  1910. 


Report  upon  the  Hospitals  for  the  Insane  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  21.) 

Reports  on  the  Hospitals  for  Idiots,  Orillia,  and  the  Hospital  for  Epilep- 
tics, Woodstock,  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  22.) 

Report  on  the  Feeble  Minded  in  Ontario  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessiona} 
Papers,  No.  23.) 

Report  upon  the  Hospitals  and  Charities,  &c.,  for  the  year  1909.     (Ses- 
sional Papers,  No.  24.) 

Report  upon  the  Common  Gaols  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional  Papers, 
No.  25.) 

Report  on  the  Neglected  and  Dependent  Children  of  Ontario  for  the  year 
190.9.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  26.) 

Report  on  the  operation  of  the  Liquor  License  Acts  in  Ontario  for  the  year 
190.9.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  27.) 

Report  of  the  Department  of  Agriculture  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  28.) 

Report  of  the  Ontario  Agriculture  College  and  Experimental  Farm  for 
the  year  1909.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  29.) 

Report  of  the  Ontario  Veterinary  College  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  30.) 

Report  of  the  Ontario  Agricultural  and  Experimental  Union,  for  the  year 
1909.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  31.) 

• 

Report  of  the  Fruit  Growers'  Association,  for  the  year  1909.     (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  32.) 

Report  of  the  Fruit  Branch  of  the  Department  of  Agriculture,  for  the 
year  190.9.      (Sessional  Papers,  No.  33.) 

Report  of  the  Ontario  Vegetable  Growers'  Association,  for  the  year  1909. 
(Sessional  Papers,  No.  34.) 

Report  of  the  Ontario  Corn  Growers'  Association,   for  the  year  1909. 
(Sessional  Papers',  No.  35.) 

Report  of  the  Entomological  Society,  for  the  year  1909.        (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  36.) 


Edw.  VII.  16TH  MARCH.  259 


Report  of  the  Bee-Keepers'  Association,  for  the  year  1909.      (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  37.) 

Reports  of  the  Dairymen's  Associations,  for  the  year  1909.      (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  38.) 

Report  of  the  Horticultural  Societies,  for  the  year  1909.        (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  44.) 

Report  of  the  Bureau  of    Industries,  for  the    year    1909.       (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  45.) 

Report  of  the  Inspectors  of  Factories,  for  the  year  1909.      (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  46.) 

Report  of  the  Provincial  Archivist,  for  the  year  190.9.     (Sessional  Papers, 
No.  51.) 

Report  of  Infant  Mortality.      (Sessional  Papers,  No.  66.) 

Report  of  the  Bureau  of  Colonization,  for  the  year  1909.       (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  74.) 


The  Committee  recommend  that  the  following  Documents  be  not  printed: 
Return  re  Gillies  Limit.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  48.) 

Return  re  Teachers  granted  Normal  and  Model  School  Certificates.      (Ses- 
sional Papers,  No.  67.) 

Reports  011  the  recent  fire  at  Parliament  Buildings.      (Sessional  Papers, 
No.  68.) 

Return  re  settlement  of  disputes  between  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commis- 
sion and  Land  Owners.      (Sessional  Papers,  No.  69.) 

Return  re  Colonization  Roads.      (Sessional  Papers,  No.  70.) 

Return  re  Money  loaned  to  Municipalities  for  Drainage  purposes.     (Ses- 
sional Papers,  No.  71.) 

Return  re  Permits  and  extensions  granted  Public  School  Teachers.  (Ses- 
sional 'Papers,  No.  72.) 

Return  re  Canadian  Northern  Railway.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  73.) 


16TH  MARCH.  1910. 


Keturn  re  Commission  for  the    Kevision    of    the    Statutes.     (Sessional 
Papers,  No.  75.) 

Return  re  resignation  of  and  moneys    collected    by    late    Game  Warden 
Hand.     (Sessional  Papers,  No.  76.) 

Return  re  permission  to  take  action  where  a  Fiat  was  necessary.      (Ses- 
sional Papers,  No.  77.) 


The  Committee  recommend  that  Four  thousand  copies  of  the  Report  of 
the  Bureau  of  Mines  he  printed. 

The  Committee  recommend  that  One  Hundred  and  fifteen  copies  of  E. 
King  Dodds'  "Canadian  Reminiscences"  be  purchased  for  distribution  to 
Members  of  the  Legislature. 


Resolved,  That  this  House  doth  concur  in  the  Second  Report  of  the 
Standing  Committee  on  Printing. 


On  motion  of  Sir  James  Whitney,  seconded  by  Mr.  Matheson, 

Resolved,  That  when  this  House  adjourns  To-day,  it  do  stand  adjourned 
until  Eleven  of  the  Clock  in  the  forenoon  of  Thursday,  the  Seventeenth  day  of 
March,  instant. 


Mr.  Hanna  presented  to  the  House, 

A  Return  to  an  Order  of  the  House  of  the  Twenty-fifth  of  February,  1910, 
for  a  Return  shewing: — 1.  How  many  Emigrants  the  Salvation  Army  brought 
out  from  Great  Britain  and  Ireland  during  the  season  1909.  2.  How  many 
were  male  and  how  many  female.  3.  How  many  were  placed  in  the  homes  of 
the  farmers  of  the  Province  of  Ontario.  4.  The  names  and  addresses  of  the 
farmers.  Also  shewing: — 1.  How  many  Emigrants  the  Government  of  this 
Province  brought  out  from  Great  Britain  and  Ireland  during  the  season  of 
1909.  2.  How  many  were  male  and  how  many  female.  3.  How  many  were 
placed  in  the  homes  of  the  farmers  of  the  Province  of  Ontario.  4.  The  names 
and  addresses  of  the  farmers.  (Sessional  Papers,  No.  78.) 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  6.30  P.M. 


Edw.  VII.  17TH  MARCH.  261 

-  Thursday,  17th  March,  1910. 
PRAYERS.  11  O'CLOCK,  A.M. 

The  House  resolved  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  Bill  (No.  162), 
The  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act,  1910,  and  after  some  time  spent  therein, 
Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Mr.  McGarry  reported,  That  the  Com- 
mittee had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill  with  certain  amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  be  taken  into  consideration  forthwith. 

The  Amendments,  having  been  read  the  second  time,  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 

The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 


Mr.  Studholme  moved, 

That  Bill  (ATo.  61),  The  Fair  Wages  and  Hours  of  Labour  Kegulation 
Act,  1910,  be  now  read  the  second  time. 


Sir  James  Whitney  moved  in  Amendment,  seconded  by  Mr.  Matheson, 

That  all  the  words  in  the  Motion,  after  the  first  word  "That"  be  omitted 
and  that  there  be  substituted  therefor  the  following :  "a  Committee  for  the  House 
of  Commons  of  Canada  to  which  has  been  referred  a  Bill  dealing  with  the 
question  of  the  hours  of  labour  on  Public  Works  has  engaged  one  of  the  Pro- 
fessors of  Queen's  University  as  a  Specialist  to  collect  information,  interpret 
decisions  gained  elsewhere  and  assist  such  Committee  in  its  researches  respect- 
ing the  hours  of  labour,  preparatory  to  its  making  a  Eeport.  That  it  is  desirable 
before  considering  the  provisions  of  the  Bill,  now  before  this  House,  to  consult 
the  Report  of  the  Committee  of  the  House  of  Commons  and  the  information 
and  opinions  gained  and  submitted  by  the  said  Specialist,  and  this  House  there- 
fore orders  that  the  said  Bill  be  not  now  read  the  second  time,  but  be  read  a 
second  time  this  day  six  months." 


Mr.  MacKay  (Grey),  moved  in  amendment  to  the  Amendment,  seconded 
by  Mr.  McDougal, 

That  all  the  words  of  the  Amendment  after  the  word  "That,"  where  it 
first  occurs,  be  struck  out  and  following  substituted:  "a  Commission  be 
appointed  to  enquire  into  the  Status  of  Labour  in  the  Province  of  Ontario  and 
report  as  to  what  Legislation  can  be  introduced  to  ameliorate  the  condition  cf 
the  Wage-earners." 


262 


17TH  MARCH. 


1910. 


And  the  amendment  to  the  Amendment,  having  been  submitted  to  the 
House,  was  declared  to  be  lost  upon  the  following  division: 

YEAS. 


Bowman 


Elliott 

Fripp 

Kohler 


(Northum- 
berland) 


Messieurs : 


McCart 
McCormick 
McDougal 
McEwing 

MacKay     (Grey) 


Mackay  (Oxford) 
May  berry 
Proudfoot 
Racine 

Reed    (Wentworth) 


NAYS. 


Messieurs : 


Reid  (Renfrew) 

Stock 
Studholme 
Truax— 19 


Anderson 

Beck 

Bowyer 

Brewster 

Brower 

Calder 

Charters 

Clark      (Bruce) 

Cochrane 
Dargavel 
Duff 
Eilber 


FergUSOn  (Simcoe) 
FergUSOn  (Grenville 

Fisher 

Fraser 

Galna 

Grigg 

Hanna 

Hearst 

Hendrie 

Hoyle 

Lennox 

Lucas 


McCowan 

McGarry 

McKeown 

McNaught 

McPherson 

Macdiarmid 

Mason 

Matheson 

Musgrove 

Neely 

Nickle 

Norman 


Pattinson 
Pharand 

Preston  (Durham) 
Preston    (Lanark) 

Reaume 

Richardson 

Shaw 

Shillington 

Smellie 

Whitesides 

Whitney 

Wilson — 48 


PAIRS. 


Machin    Tudhope. 

The  Amendment,  having  been  then    put,    was    carried  on  the  following 
division : 


Anderson 

Beck 

Bowyer 

Brewster 

Brower 

Calder 

Charters 


YEAS. 
Messieurs : 

Clark  (Bruce)  Fisher 

Cochrane  Fraser 

Dargavel  Galna 

Duff  Grigg 

Eilber  Hanna 

Ferguson  (simcoe)  Hearst 

Ferguson  (Gren vine)  Hendrie 


Hoyle  • 

Lennox 

Lucas 

McCowan 

McGarry 

McKeown 

McNaught 


Edw.  VII. 


17TH  MARCH. 


263 


McPherson 

Neely 

Preston  (Durham) 

Shillington 

Macdiarmid 

fickle 

Preston  (Lanark) 

Smellie 

Mason 

Norman 

Reaume 

Whitesides 

Matheson 

Pattinson 

Richardson 

Whitney 

Musgrove 

Pharand 

Shaw 

Wilson  —  48 

NAYS. 

Messieurs  : 

Bowman 

McCart 

Mackay  (Oxford) 

Reid    (Renfrew) 

Plarlro  (Northum- 
berland) 

McCormick 

Mayberry 

Stock 

Elliott 

McDougal 

Proudfoot 

Studholme 

Fripp 

McEwing 

Racine 

Truax—  19 

Kohler 

MacKay  (Grey)              Reed(Wentworth) 

PAIRS. 

Machin  . 

.  TudhoDe. 

The  Main  Motion,  as  amended,  having  been  then  put,  was  carried  on  the 
following  division: 

YEAS. 


Messieurs : 


Anderson 

Ferguson  (simcoe) 

McCowan 

Beck 
Bowyer 
Brewster 
Brower 

FergUSOn  (Grenville) 

Fisher 
Fraser 
Galna 

McGarry 
McKeown 
McNaught 
McPherson 

Calder 
Charters 

Grigg 
Hanna 

Macdiarmid 
Mason 

Clark  (Bruce) 

Hearst 

Matheson 

Cochrane 
Dargavel 
Duff 

Hendrie 
Hoyle 
Lennox 

Musgrove 
Neely 
Nickle 

Eilber 

Lucas 

Norman 

Pattinson 
Pharand 

Preston  (Durham) 
Preston    (Lanark) 

Reaume 

Richardson 

Shaw 

Shillington 

Smellie 

Whitesides 

Whitney 

Wilson— 48 


Bowman 


Elliott 
Fripp 
Kohler 


NAYS. 
Messieurs : 


McCart 
McCormick 
McDougal 
McEwing 

(Grey) 


Mackay  (Oxford) 
Mayberry 
Proudfoot 
Racine 

Reed  (Wentworth) 


Reid   (Renfrew) 

Stock 
Studholme 
Truax— 19 


264  17TH  MARCH.  1910. 

PAIRS. 
Machin < Tudhope. 

And  it  was 

Resolved,  That  a  Committee  for  the  House  of  Commons  for  Canada  to 
which  has  been  referred  a  Bill  dealing  with  the  question  of  the  hours  of  labour 
on  public  works  has  engaged  one  of  the  professors  of  Queen's  University  as  a 
specialist  to  collect'  information,  interpret  decisions  gained  elsewhere  and 
assist  such  Committee  in  its  researches  respecting  the  hours  of  labour  prepara- 
tory to  its  making  a  report ;  that  it  is  desirable  before  considering  the  provisions 
of  the  Bill  now  before  this  House  to  consult  the  report  of  the  Committee  of  the 
House  of  Commons,  and  the  information  and  opinions  gained  and  submitted 
by  the  said  specialist,  and  this  House  therefore  orders  that  the  said  Bill  be  not 
now  read  a  second  time,  but  be  read  a  second  time  this  day  six  months. 


The  following  Bill  was  introduced  and  read  the  first  time : — 

Bill  (No.  234),  intituled  "  An  Act  for  granting  to  His  Majesty  certain  sums 
•of  money  to  defray  the  expenses  of  Civil  Government  for  the  ten  months  ending 
31st  October,  One  thousand  nine  hundred  and  ten,  and  for  the  year  ending  31st 
•day  of  October,  One  thousand  nine  hundred  and  eleven,  and  for  other  purposes 
therein  mentioned."  Mr.  Matheson. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  second  time  forthwith. 

The  Bill  was  then  read  the  second  time. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  forthwith. 

The  Bill  was  then  read  the  third  time,  and  passed. 


On  Motion  of  Mr.  Matheson,  seconded  by  Mr.  Eeaume, 

Ordered,  That  the  full  Sessional  Indemnity  be  paid  to  each  Member  of  this 
House  for  the  present  Session. 


Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville),  from  the  Standing  Committee  on  Public  Ac- 
counts, presented  their  Report,  which  was  read.     (Appendix  No.  1.) 


Edw.  VII.  17TH  AND  19TH  MARCH.  265 


On  Motion  of  Sir  James  Whitney,  seconded  by  Mr.  Matheson, 

Resolved,  That  when  this  House  adjourns  To-day,  it  do  stand  adjourned 
until  Eleven  of  the  Clock,  in  the  forenoon,  of  Saturday  the  Nineteenth  day  of 
March,  instant. 


The  House  then  adjourned  at  5.15  P.M. 


Saturday,  19th  March,  1910. 

11  O'CLOCK,  A.M. 

His  Honour  the  Lieutenant-Governor  proceeded  in  State  to  the  Chamber 
of  the  Legislative  Assembly  and  took  his  seat  upon  the  Throne. 


The  Clerk  Assistant  then  read  the  Titles  of  the  Acts  which  had  passed, 
severally  as  follows: — 

10  Edw.  VII., 
Chap. 

1.  An  Act  for  granting  to  His  Majesty  certain  sums  of  money  for  the 
public  service  of  the  financial  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  October,  1910, 
and  for  the  public  service  of  the  financial  year  ending  the  31st  day  of  October, 
1911. 

2.  An  Act  respecting  the  Territorial  Division  of  Ontario  for  municipal 
and  judicial  purposes. 

3.  An  Act  respecting  the  Lieutenant- Governor  and  his  Deputies. 

4.  An  Act  respecting  the  Executive  Council. 

5.  An  Act  respecting  the  fees  of  certain  Public  Officers. 

6.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Succession  Duty  Act. 


(N.B. — The  Acts,  the  titles  of  which  are  printed  in  Italics,  received  the 
Royal  Assent  on  the  7th  day  of  March,  1910.  They  are  inserted  here  in  order 
that  the  above  list  may  show  all  the  Acts  passed  at  the  present  Session,  chap- 
tered as  they  will  appear  in  the  Annual  Volume  of  Statutes.) 


266  19TH  MARCH.  1910. 

10  Edw.  VII., 
Chap. 

7.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Government  House  property. 

8.  An  Act  to  establish  Forest  Reserves. 

9.  An  Act  respecting  Town  Sites. 

10.  An  Act  respecting   the    Clergy   Reserves   and  the    Upper    Canada 
Grammar  School  Lands. 

11.  An  Act  respecting  the  Public  Works  of  Ontario. 

12.  An  Act  respecting  Riots  near  Public  Works. 

13.  'An  Act  respecting  the  Bureau  of  Labour. 

14.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  for  the  Improvement  of  Public  Highways. 

15.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Temiskaming  and  Northern  Ontario  Railway 
Act. 

16.  An  Act  respecting  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission  of  Ontario. 

17.  An  Act  respecting  the  Department  of  Agriculture. 

18.  An  Act  respecting  Agricultural  Associations. 

19.  An  Act  respecting  Agricultural  Societies. 

20.  An  Act  respecting  Horticultural  Societies. 

21.  An  Act  respecting  the  Queen  Victoria  Niagara  Falls  Park. 

22.  An  Act  to  establish  the  Algonquin  National  Park  of  Ontario. 

23.  An  Act  to  establish  a  Provincial  Park  at  Rondeau. 

24.  An  Act  respecting  Appeals  to  His  Majesty  in  His  Privy  Council. 

25.  An  Act  respecting  the  Supreme  Court  of  Canada  and  the  Exchequer 
Court  of  Canada. 

26.  The  Statute  Law  Amendment  Act,  1910. 

27.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Judicature  Act. 


Edw.  VII.  19TH  MARCH.  267 

10  Edw.  VII., 
Chap. 

28.-  An  Act  to  amend  the  Judicature  Act. 

29.  An  Act  respecting  the  Judges  of  the  Supreme  Court  of  Judicature 
for  Ontario. 

30.  An  Act  respecting  the  County  Courts  and  District  Courts. 

31.  An  Act  respecting  the  Surrogate  Courts. 

32.  An  Act  respecting  the  Division  Courts. 

33.  An  Act  respecting  Disputes  concerning  Boundary  Lines. 

34.  An  Act  respecting  the  Limitation  of  Actions. 

35.  An  Act  respecting  Justices  of  the  Peace. 

36.  An  Act  respecting  Police  Magistrates. 

37.  An  Act  respecting  procedure  before  Justices  of  the  Peace  and  Sum- 
mary Convictions. 

38.  An  Act  respecting  Commissioners  of  Police  appointed  by  the  Govern- 
ment of  Canada. 

39.  An  Act  respecting  Constables. 

40.  An  Act  to  authorize  Police  Constables  to  take  bail. 

41.  An  Act  respecting  the  expenses  of  the  administration  of  justice. 

42.  An  Act  to  provide  for  payment  of  witnesses  for  the  Crown. 

43.  An  Act  respecting  Estreats. 

44.  An  Act  to  provide  for  the  better  government  of  that  part  of  Ontario 
situated  in  the  vicinity  of  the  Falls  of  Niagara. 

45.  An  Act  respecting  the  application  of  the  Law  of  England  in  certain 
matters. 

46.  An  Act  to  restrain  the  accumulation  of  the  profits  or  produce  of  Real 
or  Personal  Estate. 

47.  An  Act  respecting  Powers  of  Attorney. 


268  19TH  MARCH.  1910. 

10  Edw.  VII., 
Chap. 

48.  An  Act  respecting  the  right  of  property  in  Swarms  of  Bees. 

49.  An  Act  respecting  the  rights  of  aliens  in  relation  to  real  property. 

50.  An  Act  respecting  Petty  Trespass. 

51.  An  Act  respecting  Mortgages  of  Real  Estate. 

52.  An  Act  respecting  the  Assurance  of  Estates  Tail. 

53.  An  Act  respecting  Short  Forms  of  Conveyances. 

54.  An  Act  respecting  Short  Forms  of  Leases 

55.  An  Act  respecting  Short  Forms  of  Mortgages. 

56.  An  Act  respecting  the  Devolution  and  Distribution  of  Estates. 

57.  An  Act  respecting  Wills. 

58.  An  Act  respecting  Vendors  and  Purchasers  and  to  simplify  Titles. 

59.  An  Act  for  Quieting  Titles  to  Real  Estate. 

60.  An  Act  respecting  the  Registration  of  Instruments  relating  to  Lands. 

61.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Land  Titles  Act. 

62.  An  Act  respecting  the  legal  meaning  of  expressions  relative  to  Time. 

63.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Mercantile  Law. 

64.  An  Act  respecting  Assignments  and  Preferences  by  Insolvent  Persons. 

65.  An  Act  respecting  Mortgages  and  Sales  of  Personal  Property. 

66.  An  Act  respecting  Contracts  in  relation  to  Goods  in  the  possession  of 
agents  and  others. 

67.  An  Act  respecting  Limited  Partnerships. 

68.  An  Act  respecting  the  registration  of  Partnership. 

6.9.  An  Act  respecting  liens  of  Mechanics,  Wage  Earners  and  others. 


Edw.  VII.  19TH  MARCH.  269 

10  Edw.  VII., 
Chap. 

70.  The  Woodman's  Lien  for  Wages  Act. 

71.  An  Act  to  secure  payment  of  wages  for  labour  performed  in  the  con- 
struction of  Works. 

72.  An  Act  respecting  Wages. 

73.  An  Act  respecting  Master  and  Servant. 

74.  An  Act  respecting  Councils    of    Conciliation    and    Arbitration    for 
settling  Industrial  Disputes. 

75.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Landlord  and  Tenants  Act. 

76.  An  Act  to   amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Law  Society  of  Upper 
Canada. 

77.  The  Ontario  Medical  Amendment  Act,  1910. 

78.  An  Act  to  further  amend  the  Pharmacy  Act. 

79.  An  Act  to  revise  and  amend  the  Chartered  Accountants  Act. 

80.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Companies  Act. 

81.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Kailway  Act,  1906. 

82.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Kailway  and  Municipal  Board  Act, 
1906. 

83.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Kailway  and  Municipal  Board  Act, 

1906. 

i 

84.  The  Ontario  Telephone  Act. 

85.  The  Municipal  Amendment  Act,  1910. 

86.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Municipal  Securities  Act. 

87.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  certain  Municipal  By-laws 'and 
Agreements. 

88.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Assessment  Act. 

> 

89.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  Statute  Labour. 


270  19TH  MARCH.  1910. 

10  Edw.  VII., 
Chap. 

90.  An  Act  to  revise  and  consolidate  the  Municipal  Drainage  Laws. 

91.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Light  and  Heat  Act. 

92.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Local  Municipal  Telephone  Act,  1908. 

93.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Municipal  Water  Works  Act. 

94.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Liquor  License  Act. 

,95.  An  Act  respecting  the  Manufacture  and  Sale  of  Bread. 

96.  An  Act  respecting  Juvenile  Courts. 

97.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  for  the  protection  of  Sheep  and  to  impose 
a  Tax  on  Dogs. 

98.  An  Act  respecting  Steam  Boilers. 

99.  An  Act  to  prevent  the  spread  of  insect  and  fungous  diseases  injurious 
to  Vegetation. 

100.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Ditches  and  Watercourses  Act. 

101.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Ontario  Game  and  Fisheries  Act. 

102.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Department  of  Education  Act. 

103.  An  Act  respecting  certain  Public  School  matters  in  the  City  of 
Toronto. 

104.  An  Act  to  amend  the  High  Schools  Act. 

105.  An  Act  Respecting  Industrial  Schools. 

106.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Property  of  Religious  Insti- 
tutions. 

107.  An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Barrie. 

108.  An  Act  respecting  By-law  No.  663  of  the  Town  of  Barrie. 

109.  An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Brampton. 

110.  An  Act  respecting  the  John  H.  Stratford  Hospital,  and  to  confirm 
certain  By-laws  of  the  City  of  Brantford. 


Edw.  VII.  19TH  MARCH.  271 

10  Edw.  VII., 
Chap. 

111.  An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  502  of  the  Town  of  Campbellford. 

112.  Afn  Act  to  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  Town  of  Cobalt  and 
the  Township  of  Coleman. 

113.  An  Act  to  ratify  By-law  No.  568  of  the  Town,  of  Durham. 

114.  An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  Fort  William. 

115.  An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  Guelph. 

116.  An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  Hamilton. 

117.  An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Kenora. 

118.  An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  London. 

119.  An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  818  of  the  Town  of  Napanee. 

120.  An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Niagara. 

121.  An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  Ottawa. 

122.  An  Act  respecting  th,e  Town  of  Penetanguishene. 

123.  An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  Peterborough. 

124.  An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  Port  Arthur. 

125.  An  Act  respecting  the  Town  of  Port  Hope. 

126.  An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  2106  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines 
and  the  Agreement  thereunto  annexed. 

127.  An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  2116  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines. 

128.  An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  2126  of  the  City  of  St.  Catharines 
and  the  agreement  therein  mentioned. 

129.  An  Act  respecting  the  Municipality  of  Shuniah. 

130.  An  Act  to  confirm  certain  By-laws    and    an    Agreement    between 
the  Townships  of  Southwold  and  Yarmouth. 


272  i9iH  MARCH. 


1910. 


10  Edw.  VII., 
Chap. 

131.  An  Act  to  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  City  of  Stratford  and 
the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Company  of  Canada. 

132.  An  Act  respecting  the  Township  of  Tay. 

133.  An  Act  to  confirm  an  Agreement  between  the  Township  of  Tay  and 
the  Grand  Trunk  Railway  Company  of  Canada. 

134.  An  Act  to  confirm  By-law  No.  9,  of  1909,  of  the  Town  of  Thorn- 
bury. 

135.  An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  Toronto. 

136.  An  Act  respecting  the  City  of  Windsor. 

137.  An  Act  to  amend  an  Act  respecting  the  Township  of  York. 

138.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Acts  incorporating  the  Buffalo  and  Fort  Erie 
Ferry  and  Railway  Company. 

13.9.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  respecting  the  Bruce  Mines  and  Algoma 
Railway  Company. 

140.  An  Act  respecting  the  Dunnville,  Wellandport  and  Beamsville  Elec- 
tric Railway. 

141.  An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Hurontario  Railway  Company. 

142.  An  Act  respecting  the  Iron  Range  Railway  Company. 

143.  An  Act  respecting  the  Lac  Seul,  Rat  Portage  and  Keewatin  Rail- 
way Company. 

144.  An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Monarch  Railway  Company. 

145.  An  Act  respecting  the  Morrisburg  Electric  Railway. 

146.  An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Niagara  Falls,  Welland  and  Dunnville 
Electric  Railway  Company. 

147.  An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Nickel  Range  Railway  Company. 

148.  An  Act  respecting  the  North  Midland  Railway  Company. 

149.  An  Act  respecting  the  People's  Railway  Company. 


Edw.  VII.  19TH  MARCH.  273 

10  Edw.  VII. , 
Chap. 

150.  An  Act  respecting  the  St.  Thomas  Street  Railway. 

151.  An  Act  respecting  the  Simcoe  Railway  and  Power  Company. 

152.  An  Act  to  incorporate  Toronto,  Haliburton  and  Pembroke  Railway 
Company. 

153.  An  Act  respecting  the  Toronto  Suburban  Eailway  Company. 

154.  An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Wahnapitae  Railway  Company. 

155.  An  Act  respecting  the  Western  Central  Railway  Company. 

156.  An  Act  respecting  the  Cobalt  Lake  Mining  Company,  Limited. 

157.  An  Act  respecting  levying  and  collecting  tolls  on  the  Mississippi 
River. 

158.  An  Act  respecting  the  Monarch  Fire  Insurance  Company,   Cash, 
Mutual  and  Stock. 

159.  An  Act  respecting  the  St.  Thomas  Cemetery  Company. 

160.  An   Act   respecting   the    Trustees  of  the  Toronto  General  Burying 
Grounds. 

161.  An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Hamilton  School  of  Anatomy. 

162.  An  Act  respecting  the  Oshawa  Young  Men's  Christian  Association. 

163.  An  Act  to  amend  the  Act  to  incorporate  the  Ottawa  Young  Men's 
Christian  Association. 

164.  An  Act  to  incorporate  the  Port  Arthur    Young    Men's    Christian 
Association. 

165.  An  Act  respecting  the  Young  Men's  Christian  Association  of  Wood- 
stock, Ontario. 

166.  An  Act  to  authorize  Lester  McDonell  Coulter  to  practise  medicine 
in  the  Province  of  Ontario. 

167.  An  Act  respecting  the  Estate  of  Blanche  Eleanor  Leslie. 

168.  An  Act  respecting  the  Estate  of  Charles  Northcote. 


274  19TH  MARCH.  1910. 


To  these  Acts  the  Royal  Assent  was  announced  by  the  Clerk  of  the  Legis- 
lative Assembly  in  the  following  words : — 

"In  His  Majesty's  name,  His  Honour  the  Lieutenant-Governor  doth  assent 
to  these  Acts." 

Mr.  Speaker  then  said: 
May  it  please  Your  Honour: 

We,  His  Majesty's  most  dutiful  and  faithful  subjects,  the  Legislative 
Assembly  of  the  Province  of  Ontario,  in  Session  assembled,  approach  your 
Honour  at  the  close  of  our  labours  with  sentiments  of  unfeigned  devotion  and 
loyalty  to  His  Majesty's  person  and. Government,  and  humbly  beg  to  present 
for  Your  Honour's  acceptance  a  Bill  intituled  "An  Act  for  granting  to  Hia 
Majesty  certain  sums  of  money  for  the  Public  Service  of  the  financial  year 
ending  on  the  31st  day  of  October,  1910,  and  for  the  Public  Service  of  the 
financial  year  ending  the  31st  day  of  October,  1911,"  and  for  other  purposes 
therein  mentioned. 

To  this  Act  the  Royal  Assent  was  announced  by  the  Clerk  of  the  Legis- 
lative Assembly,  in  the  following  words: 

"His  Honour  the  Lieutenant-Governor  doth  thank  His  Majesty's  dutiful 
and  loyal  subjects,  accept  their  benevolence  and  assent  to  this  Act  in  His 
Majesty's  name." 


His  Honour  was  then  pleased  to  deliver  the  following  Speech: — 
Mr.  Speaker  and  Gentlemen  of  the  Legislative  Assembly: 

I  desire,  in  relieving  you  of  your  legislative  duties,  to  express  my  ap- 
preciation of  the  careful  consideration  you  have  given  to  the  various  measures 
that  have  come  before  you  during  the  present  Session.  Your  labours  have  been 
of  comparatively  short  duration,  owing  to  the  business-like  methods  pursued 
and  the  avoidance  of  unnecessary  delays  rather  than  to  any  diminution  of 
public  demands  upon  your  attention.  Much  of  the  Legislation  you  have  had 
to  consider  has  been  in  connection  with  the  consolidation  and  revision  of  the 
Statute  Law  of  Ontario  now  approaching  completion,  while  several  import- 
ant enactments  have  been  suggested  by  experience  and  the  desire  to  meet  the 
growing  needs  of  this  Province. 


Edw.  VII.  19TH  MARCH.  275 


I  am  pleased  to  note  that  you  have  provided  for  the  further  extension  of 
the  principle  of  agricultural  instruction  in  local  centres,  thus  giving  the  farmer 
the  benefits  of  technical  education  in  his  own  neighbourhood,  and  that  the 
public  grants  to  improve  this  basic  industry  have  been  increased.  The  pro- 
vision you  have  made  to  encourage  the  immigration  of  farm  labour  and  do- 
mestic help  cannot  fail  to  be  appreciated  by  the  people  of  this  Province.  Both 
the  comfort  and  the  business  interests  of  the  agriculturist  will  doubtless  be 
promoted  by  the  enactments  you  have  made  to  facilitate  the  operation  and 
extension  of  the  rural  telephone  systems. 

As  an  initial  result  of  the  investigation  of  the  Milk  Commission  a  meas- 
ure has  been  enacted  to  provide  for  the  extension  -of  the  powers  of  cities  and 
towns  for  the  supervision  of  their  milk  supply,  thus  providing  an  additional 
safeguard  to  public  health  in  this  important  respect. 

The  recommendations  of  the  Assessment  Commission  have  been  embodied 
in  a  measure  which  brings  into  force  various  suggestions  that  have  been  before 
the  public  for  some  time  past  regarding  the  Assessment  Laws. 

An  evidence  of  the  increased  usefulness  of  the  Railway  and  Municipal 
Board  is  found  in  the  enlarged  powers  that  have  been  conferred  upon  it  with 
reference  to  the  operation  of  Street  Railways  and  supervising  the  conditions 
under  which  Telephone  Companies  created  by  the  Provincial  authority  may 
carry  on  their  business. 

Further  legislation  to  facilitate  the  work  of  the  Hydro-Electric  Commis- 
sion has  been  enacted  in  order  to  give  reasonnble  protection  to  life  and  pro- 
perty. 

In  view  of  rapid  development  in  Northern  Ontario  power  has  been  given 
to  the  Temiskaming  and  Northern  Ontario  Railway  Commission  providing 
for  the  construction  of  a  branch  extension  of  that  Railway  shou  Id  the  same 
on  further  experience  and  investigation  be  considered  necessary  in  the  public 
interest. 

I  am  glad  to  notice  that  the  Liquor  License  Law  has  been  amended  by 
providing  that  hereafter  no  intoxicating  liquor  shall  be  sold  in  this  Province 
on  Christmas  day,  thus  promoting  the  sanctity  and  sobriety  of  this  great  festi- 
val. 

By  virtue  of  the  Act  respecting  Town  Sites  the  principle  has  been  adopted 
that  whenever  land  hereafter  sold  by  the  Crown  is  set  aside  for  town  sites  one- 
quarter  of  it  shall  revert  to  the  Crown. 

Among  the  Bills  that  have  be,en  adopted  are  measures  respecting  the  Ex- 
ecutive Council;  respecting  Government  House  property;  respecting  Juvenile 
Courts;  and  to  amend  the  Succession  Duty  Act. 


276  19TH  MAKCH.  1910 


I  desire  to  congratulate  you  upon  the  continuous  increase  in  the  financial 
resources  of  the  Province  which  enables  my  Ministers  to  improve  the  public 
service  and  to  undertake  various  projects  for  the  development  of  th,e  Province. 

I  have  to  thank  you  for  the  adequate  appropriations  you  have  made  for 
the  public  administration,  which  will  be  expanded  with  a  due  regard  to  effi- 
ciency an  economy. 

i 

In  dismissing  you  from  your  duties,  I  desire  to  express  my  thanks  for 
the  services  you  have  rendered  to  the  public,  and  to  unite  with  you  in  the  hope 
that  the  blessing  of  Almighty  God  will  continue  to  rest  upon  our  country  and 
our  people. 


Mr.  Lucas  then  said : 
Mr.  Speaker  and  Gentlemen  of  the  Legislative  Assembly: — 

"It  is  His  Honour's  will  and  pleasure  that  this  Legislative  Assembly  be 
prorogued  and  this  Legislative  Assembly  is  accordingly  prorogued." 


Appendix  No.  1. 


REPORT 


OF  THE 


Committee  on  Public  Accounts 


1910 


APPENDIX  Xo.  1. 


REPORT 


OF    THE 


Standing    Committee   on    Public 
Accounts,   1910 


To  the  Honourable  the  Legislative  Assembly  of  the  Province  of  Ontario. 

The  Standing  Committee  on  Public  Accounts  begs  leave  to  present  the 
following  as  its 

REPOBT. 

Your  Committee  has  had  produced  before  it  the  following  accounts, 
vouchers  and  particulars  in  connection  with  the  Public  Accounts  of  the 
Province  for  the  year  1909,  which  it  has  carefully  examined  and  considered. 

All  particulars  re  "  Wages/'  Charlton  and  Gowganda  Colonization  Road, 
$20,648.55,  page  385  of  the  Public  Accounts. 

All  papers  and  particulars  connected  with  the  items  "  Mining," 
$235,098.04,  page  A18  of  the  Public  Accounts;  and  "Provincial  Mines," 
$115,411.71,  page  A18  of  the  Public  Accounts. 

All  papers  and  particulars  in  connection  with  expenditures  by  the  Hydro- 
El  ectric  Power  Commission  as  follows : 

"  Legal  Expenses/7  $7,395.00,  page  444  of  the  Public  Accounts. 

"Proportion  General  Expenses/'  $7,188.30,  page  444  of  the  Public 
Accounts. 

"Legal  Expenses/'  $3,000.00,  page  445  of  the  Public  Accounts. 

"Payment  Sundry  Fees,  etc.,  Out-of-Town  Solicitors,"  $2,333.61,  page 
445  of  the  Public  Accounts. 

"  Sundry  fees  charged  by  A.  F.  Lobb,"  $7,745.00,  page  445  of  the  Pub- 
lic Accounts. 

"Automobiles,"  $15,176.61,  page  445  of  the  Public  Accounts. 

"  Sundry  advances  to  be  accounted  for,"  $5,550.00,  page  445  of  the 
Public  Accounts. 

All  particulars  in  connection  with  the  following  items  under  heading 
"  Crown  Lands  " — Explorations  and  investigations. 

E.  P.  Corkill,  travelling  expenses,  $1,110.80,  page  415  of  the  Public 
Accounts. 

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APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


G.  R  Mickle,  travelling  expenses,  $805.50,  page  416  of  the  Public 
Accounts. 

All  particulars  in  connection  with  the  following  item  under  heading 
"  Crown  Lands  " — Diamond  Drills. 

Silver  Bar  Mine — Board  of  men,  etc.,  $855.45,  page  415  of  the  Public 
Accounts. 

All  particulars  in  connection  with  the  following  item  under  heading 
"  Provincial  Secretary's  Department" — Contingencies. 

Dorrien  Plating  Mills  Co.,  Auto  tags,  $4,404.00,  page  18  of  the  Public 
Accounts. 

All  vouchers  and  particulars  in  connection  with  the  visit  of  P.  W,. 
Sothmann  and  assistant,  to  England  and  Europe  in  connection  with  the  Hydro- 
Electric  Power  Commission. 

Records  of  permits  granted  P.  W.  Sothmann,  John  F.  Beck,  and  officials 
of  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission  for  the  running  of  automobiles. 

Messrs.  H.  D.  Gillard,  W.  W.  Pope,  T.  W.  Gibson,  Hon.  A.  Beck,  A.  J. 
Young,  W.  S.  Smith,  W.  C.  Grant,  P.  W.  Sothmann,  S.  A.  Armstrong  and 
S.  D.  Madden  were  examined. 

Your  Committee  has  held  ten  meetings  during  the  present  Session  and 
submits  herewith  the  Minutes  of  the  proceedings  and  the  evidence  given,  as 
taken  by  stenographers. 

All  of  which  is  respectfully  submitted. 

G.  HOWARD  FERGUSON, 

Chairman. 
Committee  Eooms, 

March  15th,  1910. 


MINUTES  AND  PROCEEDINGS. 

Public  Accounts  Committee  Room, 

Legislative  Assembly, 

Toronto,  February  22,  1910. 

The  Select  Standing  Committee  to  whom  was  referred  the  examination 
of  the  Public  Accounts  of  the  Province,  for  the  year  1909,  and  composed  of 
the  following  members: — Sir  James  Whitney  and  Messieurs  Bowman,  Beck, 
Clark  (Bruce),  Clarke  (Northumberland),  Cochrane,  Craig,  Dargavel,  Doyle, 
Eilber,  Elliott,  Ferguson  (Grenville),  Fox,  Fraser,  Fripp,  Gamey,  Hanna, 
Ilendrie,  Johnson,  MacKay  (Grey),  Mahaffy,  Matheson,  Musgrove,  McCart, 
McDougal,  McElroy,  McEwing,  McGarry,  McKeown,  Nickle,  Pattmson,' 
Preston  (Lanark),  Preston  (Rainy  River),  Proudfoot,  Racine,  Reaume, 
Shillington,  Thompson  (Simcoe),  and  Tudhope,  met  this  day  at  11.30  A.M. 
for  organization. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1. 


Present: — Messieurs  Dargavel,  Ferguson  (Grenville),  Fox,  Fraser, 
Hanna,  Johnson,  Matheson,  Musgrove,  McElroy,  Nickle,  Preston  (Lanark), 
Preston  (Rainy  River.) 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Matheson,  seconded  by  Mr.  Musgrove,  it  was 
Resolved,  That  Mr.  Ferguson  (Grenville),  be  elected  Chairman  for  the 

Session. 

The  meeting  then  adjourned  to  meet  again  on  Wednesday,  February  23rd, 

at  11.30  A.M. 


COMMITTEE  ROOM, 

Wednesday,  23rd  February,  1910. 

Committee  met  pursuant  to  adjournment  at  11.30  A.M. 

Present: — Messieurs  Ferguson  (Grenville),  Chairman;  Clarke  (North- 
umberland), Craig,  Dargavel,  Eilber,  Fox,  Fripp,  Johnson,  Matheson,  McCart, 
McDougal,  McElroy,  McEwing,  Preston  (Lanark),  Preston  (Rainy  River), 
Thompson  (Simcoe.) 

Mr.  H.  D.  Gillard,  Crown  Lands  Department,  was  sent  for  and  examined 
as  to  payments  to  and  nature  of  services  rendered  by  Fire  Rangers,  pages 
402-411  inclusive  of  the  Public  Accounts. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  McCart,  seconded  by  Mr.  Elliott, 
Ordered,  That  all  particulars  of  item  "  Wages,"  $20,648.55,  be  produced 
before  this  Committee.     Page  385  of  the  Public  Accounts. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  McDougal,  seconded  by  Mr.  Clarke, 
Ordered,  That  all  papers   and  particulars   relating  to  items  Provincial 
Mines  $115,411. 71,  and  Mining  $235.098.04,  be  produced  before  this  Com- 
mittee, page  A18  of  the  Public  Accounts,  and  that  Mr.  T.  W.  Gibson,  Deputy 
Minister  of  Mines,  be  summoned  to  testify. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Elliott,  seconded  by  Mr.  Clarke, 

Ordered,  That  all  particulars  connected  with  the  following  expenditures 
by  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission  be  produced  before  this  Committee: 
"  Legal  Expenses,"  $7,395.00,  page  444  of  the  Public  Accounts. 


APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


:  Legal  Expenses/'  $3,000.00,  page  445  of  the  Public  Accounts. 

"  Fees  .to  Out-of-Town  Solicitors,"  $2,333.61,  page  445  of  the  Public 
Accounts. 

Sundry  fees  charged  by  A.  F.  Lobb,  $7,745.00,  page  445  of  the  Public 
Accounts. 

"Proportion  General  Expenses,"  $7,188.30,  page  444  of  the  Public 
Accounts. 

"Automobiles,"  $15,176.61,  page  445  of  the  Public  Accounts. 

"  Sundry  advances  to  be  accounted  for,"  $5,550.00,  page  445  of  the  Public 
Accounts. 

And  that  Mr.  W.  W.  Pope,  Secretary  to  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Com- 
mission, be  summoned  to  attend  before  the  Committee  at  its  next  meeting  and 
explain  said  accounts. 

The  Committee  then  'adjourned  to  meet  on  Thursday,  February  24lh,  at 

11   A.M. 


COMMITTEE  ROOM, 

Thursday,  February  24th,  1910. 

Committee  met  pursuant  to  adjournment  at  11  A.M. 

Present: — Messieurs  Ferguson  (Grenville),  Chairman;  Eilber,  Elliott, 
Fripp,  Johnson,  Mahaffy,  Matheson,  McCart,  McDougal,  McElroy,  McEwing, 
fickle,  Pattinson,  Preston  (Lanark),  Proudfoot,  Racine. 

Mr.  T.  W.  Gibson  attended  and  was  examined. 

Mr.  W.  W.  Pope  attended  and  was  examined. 


Ordered,  That  the  Hon.  Adam  Beck  be  summoned  to  attend  at  next  meet- 
ing, and  that  Mr.  T.  W.  Gibson  and'W.  W.  Pope  re-attend. 

The  Committee  then  adjourned  to  meet  on  Wednesday,  March  2nd    at 
11.30  A.M. 


COMMITTEE  ROOM, 

Wednesday,  March  2nd,  1910. 

Committee  met  pursuant  to  adjournment  at  11.30  A.M. 

Present: — Messieurs  Ferguson  (Grenville),  Chairman;  Beck,  Clark 
(Bruce),  Clarke  (Northumberland),  Elliott,  Johnson,  Matheson,  Musgrove, 
McCart,  McDougal,  McEwing,  McGarry,  McKeown. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1. 


Hon.  Adam  Beck  examined. 


Mr.  T.  W.  Gibson  re-examined. 


Mr.  W.  W.  Pope  re-examined. 


Ordered,  That  Mr.  A.  J.  Young,  of  North  Bay,  be  summoned  to  appear  at 
jiex't  meeting  of  the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That  a  representative  of  the  Automobile  and  Supply  Company, 
Limited,  connected  with  the  sale  of  automobiles  to  the  Hydro-Electric  Power 
'Commission,  be  summoned  to  "attend  at  next  meeting  of  the  Committee. 

The  Committee  then  adjourned  to  meet  on  Thursday,  March  3rd,  at 
12  m. 


COMMITTEE  ROOM, 

Thursday,  March  3rd,  1910. 

Committee  met  pursuant  to  adjournment  at  12  M. 

Present: — Messieurs  Ferguson  (Grenville),  Chairman;  Clark  (Bruce), 
iDargavel,  Eilber,  Elliott,  Fox,  Eraser,  Matheson,  Musgrove,  McCart,  Me- 
Dougal,  McElroy,  McEwing,  McGarry,  Mckle,  Pattinson,  Racine,  Shillington. 

Telegram  from  A.  J.  Young  (North  Bay),  read,  stating  that  he  could  not 
'attend  at  meeting  of  Committee  until  Tuesday,  March  8th. 


Ordered ,  That  he  be  re-summoned  to  attend  on  that  date. 

W.  S.  Smith,  of  the  Automobile  and  Supply  Co.,  attended  and  was  sworn 
and  examined. 

Objected  to  answering  several  questions  put  without  the  consent  of  his 
'employers. 

Was  sustained  in  this  contention  by  the  Chairman. 


APPENDIX  No.  1.  10 10 


Show  of  hands  demanded. . 

Chair  sustained  by  12  to  5. 

Ordered,  That  W.  S.  Smith  re-attend  at  next  meeting  of  Committee. 

On  motion  of  Mr.  McDougal,  seconded  by  Mr.  Elliott, 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  W.  C.  Grant,  manager  of  the  Automobile  and  Supply 
Company,  Limited,  be  summoned  to  appear  before  the  Committee  at  its  next 
meeting  and  to  produce  the  books  of  the  company  showing  all  the  entries  re- 
lating to  the  purchase,  repair  and  sale  of  all  automobiles  sold  to  the  Hydro- 
Electric  Power  Commission  or  any  member  or  official  thereof  and  all  informa- 
tion relating  thereto. 

Committee  then  adjourned  to  meet  on  Friday,  March  4th,  at  11  A.M. 


COMMITTEE  ROOM. 

Friday,  March  4th,  1910. 

Committee  met  pursuant  to  adjournment  at  11  A.M. 

Present-. — Messieurs  Ferguson  (Grenville),  Chairman;  Beck,  Clark 
(Bruce),  Clarke  (Northumberland),  Craig,  Eilber,  Elliott,  Fraser,  Fripp, 
Johnson,  Matheson,  Musgrove,  McCart,  McDougal,  McEwing,  McGarry, 
Nickle,  Pattinson,  Preston  (Lanark),  Preston  (Rainy  River),  Racine, 
Reaume. 

Chairman,  referring  to  his  ruling  at  last  meeting,  sustaining  witness  in 
•his  refusal  to  answer  certain  questions  without  the  consent  of  his  employers, 
quoted  as  a  precedent  a  ruling  to  the  same  effect  in  the  Journals  of  the  House 
for  1903. 

Mr.  W.  S.  Smith  attended  for  re-examination  and  W.  C.  Grant,  manager 
of  the  Automobile  and  Supply  Company,  Limited,  attended  for  examination. 
Mr.  W.  C.  Grant  was  sworn  and  examined. 

Mr.  W.  S.  Smith  was  again  examined. 

Messrs.  P.  W.  Sothmann  and  F.  A.  Gaby,  engineers  in  the  employ  of  the 
Hydro-Electric  Power  Company,  were  sent  for. 

Mr.  P.  W.  Sothmann  was  sworn  and  examined. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1. 


Ordered,  That  Messrs  Sothmann  and  Gaby  re-attend  at  next  meeting  of 
Jt'he  Committee  for  examination. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Elliott,  seconded  by  Mr.  McDougal. 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Armstrong  or  Mr.  Johns  of  the  Provincial  Secretary's 
Department,  be  summoned  to  attend  at  next  meeting  of  the  Committee  and 
produce  records  of  all  permits  given  to  P.  W.  Sothmann,  John  F.  Beck  and 
jthe  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission. 

Committee  adjourned  to  meet  on  Tuesday,  March  8th,  at  11.30  A.M. 


COMMITTEE  ROOM. 

Tuesday,  March  8th,  1910. 


Committee  met  pursuant  to  adjournment  at  11.30  A.M. 

Present: — Messieurs  Ferguson  (Grenville),  Chairman;  Beck,  Clark 
(Bruce),  Clarke  (Northumberland)  Eilber,  Elliott,  Fox,  Fraser,  Johnson, 
Matheson,  Musgrove,  McElroy,  McEwing,  McGarry,  Pattinson,  Proudfoot, 
Reaume,  Shillington. 


Messrs.  S.  A.  Armstrong,  A.  J.  Young  (North  Bay),  F.  A.  Gaby  and 
P.  W.  Sothmann  attended  for  examination. 

Mr.  McGarry  read  a  synopsis  of  Mr.  Sothmann' s  evidence  which  he  pro- 
nounced correct. 

Mr.  A.  J.  Young  was  sworn  and  examined. 
Mr.  S.  !A.  Armstrong  was  sworn  and  examined. 

Mr.  P.  W.  Sothmann  produced  all  papers  having  reference  to  the  purchase 
and  repair  of  automobiles  under  discussion  at  the  last  meeting.  Copy  of  his 
recommendation  to  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission  re  the  purchase 
of  automobiles  and  vouchers  for  the  expensess  of  himself  and  assistant,  Mr. 
Mansfeldt,  when  in  England  and  Europe  together,  in  the  interests  of  the  said 
Commission. 

Mr.  P.  W.  Sothmann  was  then  re-examined. 
Mr.  F.  A.  Gaby  was  excused  from  examination. 


10  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


COMMITTEE  EOOM. 

Thursday,  March  10th,  1910. 

Committee  met  pursuant  to  adjournment  at  11.30  A.M. 

Present: — Ferguson  (Grenville)  Chairman;  Bowman,  Clark  (Bruce), 
Clarke  '(Northumberland),  Dargavel,  Doyle,  Eilber,  Elliott,  Matheson,  Mc- 
Cart,  McEwing,  McGarry,  Pattinson,  Preston  (Lanark),  Preston  (Rainy 
(River),  Proudfoot,  Racine,  Reaume. 

Mr.  T.  W.  Gibson,  Deputy  Minister  of  Mines,  was  sent  for  and  examined. 


On  motion  of  Mr.  Clarke  (Northumberland),  seconded  by  Mr.  Elliott. 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  S.  D.  Madden  and  Geo.  E.  Martell,  residence  given 
as  Cobalt,  be  summoned  by  telegraph  to  appear  at  next  meeting  of  the  Com- 
mittee and  be  examined  as  to  sales  of  portions  of  the  Gillies  Limit  and  that 
all  vouchers  and  papers  connected  with  the  following  items  be  produced. 

Item  $1,110.80,  travelling  expenses,  E.  T.  Corkill,  page  415  of  the 
Public  Accounts. 

Item  $805.50,  travelling  expenses,  G.  R.  Nickle,  page  416  of  the  Public 
Accounts. 

Item  $4,404.40,  Dorrien  Plating  Co.,  Auto  tags,  page  18  of  the  Public 
'Accounts. 

Item  855.45,  Silver  Bar  Mine,  Board  of  Men,  etc.,  page  415  of  the  Pub- 
lic Accounts. 

The  Committee  then  adjourned  to  meet  again  on  Eriday,  March  llth,  at 
11.30  A.M. 


COMMITTEE  ROOM. 

Friday,  March  llth,  1910. 

Committee  met  pursuant  to  adjournment  at  11.30  A.M. 

Present: — Messieurs  Ferguson  (Grenville)  Chairman;  Clark  (Bruce), 
Clarke  (Northumberland),  Cochrane,  Craig,  Dargavel,  Hanna,  Johnson,  Ma- 
theson, Musgrove,  McCart,  McElroy,  McEwing,  McGarry,  Pattinson,  Reaume, 
Shilling-ton. 


Mr.  T.  W.  Gibson  was  re-examined. 
Mr.  S.  A.  Armstrong  was  re-examined. 
Hon.  Mr    Hanna  was  examined. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  11 


Mr.  S.  D.  Madden,  of  Cobalt,  was  sworn  and  examined. 
Ordered.  That  Geo.  E.  Martell  be  found,  of  possible,  and  ordered  to  at- 
tend at  next  meeting  of  the  Committee. 

Committee  then  adjourned  to  meet  on  Tuesday,  March    15th,  at  11.30 
A.M. 


COMMITTEE  ROOM. 

Tuesday,  March  15th.  1910. 

Committee  met  pursuant  to  adjournment  at  11.30  A.M. 

Present: — Messieurs  Ferguson  (Grenville)  Chairman;  Bowman,  Clark 
(Bruce),  Clarke  (Northumberland),  Dargavel,  Doyle,  Eilber,  Elliott,  John- 
son, Matheson,  Musgrove,  McCart,  McDougal,  McElroy,  McEwing,  McGarry. 
Preston  (Lanark),  Preston  (Rainy  River),  Racine,  Reaume,  Shillington. 

Telegram  received  from  Mr.  Geo.  E.  Martell  that  he  could  not  attend  be- 
fore Thursday  or  Friday  next. 


Show  of  hands  demanded  on  motion  of  Mr.  McDougal  that  Mr.  Geo.  E. 
Martell  be  ordered  to  attend  for  examination  on  Wednesday,  March  16th,  1910. 
Declared  lost,  6  for  motion,  10  against. 


Report  read,  and  moved  by  Mr.  Matheson,  seconded  by  Mr.  Eilber,  that  it 
be  adopted. 

Amendment  to  motion  moved  by  Mr.  McDougal,  seconded  by  Mr.  Elliott, 
the  draft  report,  as  read,  be  amended  by  inserting  as  part  thereof  the  fol- 
lowing clause: — 

Your  Committee  has  enquired  into  the  sale,  by  the  Government  of  certain 
mining  locations  in  the  territory  known  as  the  "Gillies  Limit,"  and  they  find 
that  the  Government,  on  the  13th  day  of  July,  190,9,  sold  a  location  A  23  for 
$10,500.00  and  the  purchaser  thereafter  re-sold  the  said  location  for  $330,- 
000.00,  having  expended  on  the  property  but  $3.500  and  therefore  making  a 
net  profit  of  $316,000.00.     Your  Committee  are  forced  to  the  conclusion  that 
there  has  been  deplorable  mismanagement  in  connection  with  the  sale  of  mining 
locations  in  said  Gillies  Limit,  and  that  the  Province  has  probably  lost  many 
million  dollars  as  a  result- 
That  your  Committee  as  a  result  of  examining  witnesses,  find  that  the 
Hydro-Electric  Commission  purchased  two  second-hand  automobiles  from  the 


12  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 

Automobile  &  Supply  Company,  Limited,  but  that  the  real  vendors  of  those 
automobiles  were  the  Chief  Engineer  of  the  Commission  and  John  F.  Beck, 
of  London,  Ontario,  and  that  the  purchase  was  made  through  the  said  Auto- 
mobile &  Supply  Company,  Limited,  merely  to  conceal  the  names  of  the  real 
vendors,  and  the  said  automobiles  were  purchased  by  the  Commission  on  the 
recommendation  of  and  upon  the  inspection  of  the  said  Chief  Engineer,  who 
was  one  of  the  real  vendors. 

Show  of  hands  demanded  on  Amendment. 
Amendment  declared  lost,  for  motion  6,  against  12. 
Original  motion  was  then  put  and  carried. 
Report  adopted. 
The  Committee  then  adjourned 


EVIDENCE. 

.Meeting,  February  23:     G.  H.  Ferguson  in  the  chair. 

D.  J.  McDouGAL:  Mr.  Chairman,  there  is  a  small  matter  here  that 
I  might  mention.  On  page  396  there  are  items  for  forest  ranging.  Some 
men  are  paid  $2.50  per  day  and  others  $5.00  per  clay.  I  want  to  ask 
about  these  fire  rangers.  Are  they  supposed  to  devote  their  whole  time  to  this 
work,  or  are  they  allowed  to  have  other  appointments? 

Hon.  A.  J.  MATHESON:  I  am  only  speaking  from  general  knowledge. 
They  are  expected  to  give  their  whole  time  to  the  work. 

Mr.  McDouGAL:  I  am  informed  that  a  great  many  are  employed  by  sub- 
contractors along  the  line  of  railway,  who  are  also  receiving  full  pay  from 
the  Government. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :  There  is  an  agreement  with  timber  licensees  to 
pay  half  of  the  ranger's  wages,  the  Government  paying  the  other  half.  The 
ordinary  fire  ranger  that  the  Government  sends  out  separately  the  Government 
pays  his  whole  salary.  For  instance,  if  they  call  out  the  fire  rangers  to  fight 
a  fire  in  their  limit  which  had  been  started  by  the  railway  contractors,  the 
timber  people  would  pay  half  of  the  cost  and  the  Government  would  pay  the 
other  half. 

Mr.  McDouGAL :  What  I  mean  is,  supposing  a  man  is  employed  by  the 
railway  contractor,  could  he  work  for  the  contractor  and  just  in  his  off  moments 
attend  to  the  work  of  the  Government,  could  he  get  full  pay?  Are  they  not 
.supposed  to  move  from  place  to  place  ? 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  13 


R.  H.  MCELROY:  From  my  own  knowledge  the  ranger  has  a  beat  to 
travel. 

Mr.  McDouGAL :  I  know  of  a  contractor  who  had  seven  men  in  his  employ, 
.who  drew  their  pay  from  him,  and  also  drew  full  pay  from  the  Government 
for  fire  ranging. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :  They  may  have  been  part  of  an  arrangement  that 
*the  Government  pay  them  in  case  of  a  fire  on  a  limit  along  the  line  of  railway. 

Mr.  McDouGAL :  On  page  409  there  are  a  number  of  items  at  the  bottom 
-of  the  page.  Under  "  Licensees  and  assistance,  extinguishing  fires/7  for 
instance  "  Algoma  Central  and  Hudson  Bay  Railway  Company,  $69 8. '5 3." 

The  CHAIRMAN  :  These  are  just  what  we  have  been  talking  about.  There  is 
a  timber  licensee  who  keeps  track  of  the  fire  rangers  for  the  Government,  and 
in  the  event  of  a  fire  half  the  cost  is  paid  by  the  Government. 


Mr.  Gillard,  Accountant  in  the  Lands,  Forests  and  Mines  Department, 
was  called  to  the  stand,  and  testified  as  follows:— 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q._-On  page  409,  "  Licensees  and  assistance,  extinguishing  fires,"  Algoma 
Central  and  Hudson  Bay  Railway  Company,  $698.53."  ^  How  are  the  accounts 
kept?  A. — These  are  accounts  of  men  hired  by  the  licensees  of  land.  The 
appointments  are  recommended  by  the  licensees,  and  we  note  the  appointments 
here  arid  provide  them  with  their  equipment.  If  a  fire  occurs  on  the  lands  of 
a  licensee  where  this  rfcnger  is  he  calls  in  help,  and  the  Department  pays  one- 
ihalf  of  the  expense  and  the  licensee  pays  the  other. 

Q. Is  this  on  a  timber  berth  where  the  timber  man  owns  the  Berth,  or 

where  it  is  sold  at  so  much  per  thousand  feet?  A. — In  either  case. 

Q. — Take  the  Algoma  Central  and  Hudson  Bay  Railway  account  of 
$698.53.  How  is  this  account  kept  ?  How  do  you  know  the  amount  is  correct  ? 
A. — We  have  an  affidavit  form  which  is  sworn  to  by  the  ranger,  and  another 
form  which  is  sworn  to  by  the  licensee. 

Q. — In  some  places  you  pay  the  men  two  dollars  and  fifty  cents  per  day, 
and  in  others  five  dollars?  A.— These  are  men  employed  on  Crown  Lands, 
and  along  the  Temiskaming  and  Northern  Ontario  Railway.  The  ordinary 
rangers  receive  $2.50  per  day,  and  the  foremen  five  dollars  per  day. 

Q. — The  men  you  pay  the  full  amount  to.  Are  they  supposed  to  give 
their  whole  time  to  the  work  ?  A.— Yes.  They  give  their  whole  time  to  the 
work. 

Q. — That  is,  they  are  supposed  to  work  entirely  for  the  Province? 
A. — They  are  not  supposed  to  do  any  other  work. 

Q. — If  a  man  was  employed  in  this  way,  he  is  not  supposed  to  dk) 
any  other  work  whatever?  A. — !No. 


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Q. — If  a  man  was  working,  say  for  the  Transcontinental  Railway,  he 
would  not  be  entitled  to  draw  full  pay  from  the  Department  ?  A. — No.  In 
any  case  like  that  we  would  get  rid  of  that  man. 

The  witness  was  discharged. 


Mr.  McDouGAL:  Mr.  Chairman,  on  page  412  I  notice  a  payment  of 
$35,000,  "Compensation  for  timber  destroyed  by  fire,  T.  &  K  O.  Railway, 
Gillies  Brothers." 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:  That  was  specially  voted  in  the  House  last  year. 
Gillies  Brothers  commenced  an  action  against  the  T.  &  !N".  O.  Railway,  and  it 
was  thrown  out  on  a  technicality.  The  loss  of  timber  by  fire  was  something  over 
,'$100,000,  and  the  House  voted  this  sum  of  money  in  settlement  of  their  claim. 
They  claimed  a  much  larger  amount.  Is  that  right,  Mr.  Gibson? 

Mr.  GIBSON  (in  attendance)  :  Yes. 

Mr.  McDouGAL :  What  was  the  technicality  ? 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :  Their  license  had  not  been  renewed. 

Mr.  McDouGAL:  Had  the  Government  made  any  enquiries  as  to  the 
'amount  of  the  loss? 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:  Yes.     Extensive  enquiries  were  made. 

Mr.  GIBSON  :  Yes.  Enquiries  were  made.  We  went  into  the  matter  very 
'fully.  The  thing  hung  over  for  a  long  time  before  a  compromise  was  arrived 
at.  I  am  quite  satisfied  that  the  Gillies'  loss  was  muoh  larger, 

Mr.  McDouGAL:  On  the  same  page  I  notice  a  number  of  items,  for 
example,  "  George  S.  Avrey,  accountable,  $1,600." 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :  That  means  that  the  work  was  not  finished  and  the 
'account  had  not  been  certified  to  by  the  auditor  at  the  time  the  public  accounts 
hvere  made  up. 

Mr.  McDouGAL:    James  Hutcheon,  unaccounted  for,  $4,500. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:  He  did  not  put  in  any  vouchers  for  that.  These 
jpayments  are  always  given  by  the  Crown  Lands  Department.  They  know 
ipretty  well  what  work  has  been  done,  but  a  certain  amount  of  money  is  with- 
held until  the  contract  is  completed.  The  contractor  has  got  some  money,  but 
the  final  adjustment  has  not  been  made.  There  are  more  of  these  items  this 
year  than  usual,  on  account  of  the  fiscal  year  being  only  ten  months. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT:  On  pages  444  and  445,  Public  Accounts,  there  are  items 
under  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission,  for  legal  expenses,  $7,395;  $3,000; 
and  $2,333.61. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :  The  Commission  employed  Mr.  A.  E.  Lobb  as  chief 
solicitor,  and  he  in  turn  employed  agents  throughout  the  country  in  connection 
with  the  purchase  of  the  right-of-way.  '  If  you  will  make  a  motion  and  ask 
Mr.  Pope,  the  secretary,  to  appear  before  the  Committee  and  bring  down  the 
papers,  he  will  be  able  to  explain  it. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  15 


Mr.  ELLIOTT  :  What  about  the  automobiles  ?  For  this  there  is  an  item  of 
$15.171.61. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :  There  are  four  automobiles,  which  have  been  pur- 
chased by  the  Commission.  One, was  destroyed  by  fire.  They  received  some- 
thing by  way  of  insurance,  and  purchased  another.  The  machines  are  used 
principally  by  the  engineers  going  over  the  right  of  way.  This  item  probably 
includes  the  cost  of  operation. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT:  There  is  also  an  item  for  general  expenses. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:  This  refers  to  expenses  in  connection  with  other 
proposed  work,  as  in  the  case  of  the  Trent  Valley  Canal  water  power,  which 
will  ultimately  come  into  the  Niagara  transmission  system. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT:  Mr.  Chairman,  I  make  a  motion,  seconded  by  Mr.  Clark 
(Northumberland),  that  particulars  be  furnished  of  (1)  item  of  $7,395  on 
page  444  of  the  Public  Accounts  for  legal  expenses  in  connection  with  the 
Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission;  (2)  item  of  $3,000  on  page  445  for  legal 
expenses;  (3)  item  of  $2,333.61  on  page  445  for  legal  expenses  and  payments 
of  sundry  fees,  etc.,  to  out-of-town  solicitors ;  (4)  sundry  advances  to  be 
accounted  for  by  A.  F.  Lobb,  $5,550;  (5)  proportion  of  general  expenses, 
$7,088.30;  (6)  automobiles,  $15,176.61;  (7)  sundry  fees  charged  by  A.  F. 
Lobb,  $7,745;  and  that  the  Secretary,  Mr.  W.  W.  Pope,  be  called  upon  to  ex- 
plain these  items. 

Mr.  Me  CART  :  There  is  an  item  on  page  385  for  wages,  a  road  from  Charl- 
ton  to  Gowganda,  $20,648.55.  Is  it  necessary  to  bulk  amounts  like  this? 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :  We  take  tenders  for  the  work.  You  will  see  among 
the  receipts  under  casual  revenue  that  three  or  four  contractors  forfeited  their 
cheques  for  non-compliance  with  the  terms  of  the  contracts,  and  the  work  was 
done  by  day  labour.  You  can  get  these  particulars  on  a  motion  for  a  return. 

Mr.  McCART :  Were  tenders  taken  ? 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESO^  :  Yes,  and  the  cheques  were  forfeited  on  the  refusal 
of  the  contractors  to  proceed  with  the  work.  On  page  A46,  Gowganda  Eoad, 
there  are  three  deposits  forfeited  of  men  who  had  tendered  and  would  not  go 
on  with  the  road.  The  fact  of  forfeiting  one  or  two  cheques  stops  men  ten- 
dering who  have  no  intention  of  going  on  with  the  work. 

Mr.  MCCART:  Did  these  men,  whose  cheques  were  forfeited,  have  any- 
thing to  do  with  the  work? 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:    It  was  carried  on  by  day  labour. 
Mr.  MCCART:    Also  on  page  385  there  is  an  item  of  $1,102.88,  W.  H. 
Stewart,  provisions. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESOX  :  All  I  know  is  that  the  work  was  done  by  day  labour. 
These  supplies  were  purchased  when  needed.  Someone  was  put  in  charge.  It 
was  impossible  to  sret  into  Gowganda  except  at  enormous  expense.  The  route 
by  canoe  was  much  longer.  The  present  road  is  about  27  miles  from  Elk 
Lake  to  Gowganda.  It  is  a  good  road  and  much  shorter  than  the  other  route  of 
sixty  miles. 


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Mr.  MCELROY:  To  illustrate  the  advantage  of  this  road;  before  it  was 
built  it  cost  me  six  dollars  per  hundred  to  get  merchandise  into  Gowganda,  and 
now  I  only  pay  $1.50. 

Mr.  McDouGAL:  On  page  A18  there  is  an  item  from  provincial  mines  of 
$115,411.71.  Is  that  from  the  sale  of  the  mine? 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :  It  is  part  of  it.  We  also  received  some  money  from 
the  sale  of  the  Gowganda  town-site. 

Mr.  McDouGAL:  But  is  all  of  the  money  from  the  sale  of  the  provincial 
mine  that  came  in  last  year  in  this  item  ?  I  would  like  the  details. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:  All  the  money  that  was  received  up  to  the  31st  of 
October. 

Mr.  Me  CART:  Mr.  Chairman,  I  move,  seconded  by  Mr.  Clarke  (Northum- 
berland), that  the  particulars  of  the  item  on  page  385,  road  from  Charlton 
to  Gowganda,  wages,  $20,648.55,  be  furnished  to  this  Committee. 

Mr.  McDouGAL:  Mr.  Chairman,  I  move,  seconded  by  Mr.  Clarke  (North- 
umberland), that  particulars  be  furnished  and  all  papers  brought  down  in 
connection  with  the  item  (page  A18),  Provincial  Mines,  $115,411.17,  and 
Mining  $235,098.04,  and  that  Mr.  Gibson  be  summoned  to  testify. 

The  Committee  then  adjourned. 


COMMITTEE  ROOM. 

Thursday,  24th  February,  1910. 

The  Committee  met  on  Thursday,  February  24th,  with  Mr.  Ferguson 
(Grenville)  in  the  Chair. 

Mr.  W.  W.  Pope,  secretary  of  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission, 
called,  sworn  and  examined. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — The  first  item  about  which  I  asked  particulars  is  on  p^ge  444  of  the 
Public  Accounts,  legal  expenses,  $7,395.  A. — The  particulars  are  covered  by 
a  payment  of  $395  to  T.  G.  Meredith,  K.C.,  London,  for  counsel  fees  in  con- 
nection with  municipal  agreements,  bylaws,  etc. 

By  Mr.  FRIPP. 

Q. — Do  you  tax  these,  Mr.  Pope?     A. — The  account  was  incurred  before 
my  time. 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q. — Does  your  Department  tax  the  value  ?  A. — I  cannot  say.  This  was 
the  only  bill  that  I  found  up  to  the  time  that  I  joined  the  Commission. 

'Q. — When  did  you  enter  that  Department?  A. — The  first  of  October 
last. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Who  was  attending  to  the  work  you  are  now  doing  before  you  came 
with  the  Commission  ?  A. — My  work  covers  a  new  Department  that  was 
created  at  that  time. 


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Q. — Who  passed  on  the  bills  before  then?  A. — -The  Commission  as  a 
whole. 

Q. — What  course  is  followed  now?  A. — The  local  solicitor  searches  the 
title  and  is  allowed  $5  for  each  title.  T/his  bill  covers  a  good  deal  of  work. 

Q. — How  are  the  items  made  up  ?  A. — Seven  thousand  paid  to  A.  F. 
Lobb  on  account  of  service,  and  the  $395  to  Mr.  Meredith. 

Q. — Is  Mr.  Lobb  paid  a  salary  ?  A. — The  $7,000  paid  at  that  time  was 
on  account  of  services  from  1906,  when  Mr.  Lobb  undertook  the  work,  to  March 
1,  1909. 

Q. — At  what  rate  was  he  paid  ?  A. — I  am  not  able  to  say  that  there  was 
exactly  a  fixed  rate,  but  I  think  the  amount  is  figured  on  the  basis  of  $400  per 
month;  but  that  does  not  include  travelling  and  hotel  expenses. 

Q.— That  is  $4,800  per  year  ?     A.— Yes. 

Q. — Do  you  know  when  that  agreement  started?  A. — I  could  not  give 
the  date  of  that  agreement. 

Q. — Do  you  know  if  that  is  the  salary  at  which  he  is  still  engaged? 
A.— No. 

Q. — But  that  $4,800  is  the  rate  up  to  the  beginning  of  1909 ;  as  I  under- 
stand it,  there  was  a  new  engagement  from  tiiat  time  on?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — What  were  Mr.  Lobb's  duties?  A. — He  was  to  take  charge  of  the 
ri^ht-of^way,  which  made  it  necessary  for  him  to  be  constantly  away  from 
his  business,  and  which  occupied  practically  the  whole  of  his  time. 

Q. — What  was  the  arrangement?  A. — I  understand  there  was  no  fixed 
rate,  but  there  is  a  bill  for  it.  In  all  Mr.  Lobb  was  paid  $10,000  during  1909 
on  account  of  his  services  prior  to  March,  1909. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — That  is  on  the  basis  of  $400  per  month  ?  Mr.  Pope. — Yes.  He  was 
paid'  on  March  18,  $2,000;  March  31,  $3,000;  May  27,  $3,000;  July  21, 
$2,000.  That  covers  items  one  and  two,  which  your  return  calls  for,  including 
the  payment  to  Mr.  Meredith. 

Q. — Do  I  understand  that  during  that  time  he  devoted  his  whole  time  to 
the  work  of  the  Commission  ?  A. — Very  largely. 

Q. — And  according  to  the  agreement  to  the  first  of  March  he  was  paid 
at  the  rate  of  $400  per  month  ?  A. — Yes.  That  is  my  understanding. 

Q. — Since  that  time  has  he  devoted  his  whole  time  to  the  work  ?  A. — All 
during  the  summer  months  and  until  I  came  in. 

Q. — At  what  rate  ?     A. — At  no  fixed  rate  as  far  as  I  know. 

Q. — According  to  the  work  he  did?  A. — Yes.  Taking  into  considera- 
tion all  his  dealings  over  the  whole  right-of-way  from  March  until  the  end 
of  October. 

Q. — Have  you  his  bill  for  that  ?  A. — Yes,  sir.  (Mr.  Pope  produced  the 
bill,  which  was  filed  with  the  Clerk  of  the  Committee.) 

Q. — Is  it  to  the  end  of  the  year?  A. — To  the  end  of  the  fiscal  year  only. 
I  asked  for  an  account  of  all  right-of-way  transactions  for  the  information  of 
the  Provincial  Treasurer,  and  that  is  what  we  got.  I  may  say  that  the  memo- 


18  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


randum  Includes  all  his  railway  fares,  hotel  expenses  and  the  expenses  of  what- 
ever help  he  had.  It  includes  his  whole  charge. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — I  understand,  Mr.  Pope,  that  this  bill  is  simply  rendered,  and  does  not 
represent  what  the  Commission  paid  him.  slt  is  what  he  claims?  A. — Yes, 
it  is  what  he  claims,  The  amount  has  not  yet  been  adjusted. 

By  Mr.  JOHNSON. 

Q. — Is  it  owing  but  not  adjusted  between  the  Commission  and  Mr.  Lobb? 
A. — It  is  owing  to  the  fact  that  these  fees  were  not  settled,  as  the  Com- 
mission desires  to  know  what  it  is  fair  to  pay. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — This  bill  includes,  as  I  understand  it,  payments  he  has  made  to 
various  persons  for  right-of-way  work?  A. — When  he  took  over  the 
right-of-way  part  of  the  work  was  done  by  local  solicitors.  For 
instance,  at  St.  Catharines  by  Mr.  Fraser, .  Hamilton  by  Martin 
&  Martin,  Guelph  by  McDonald  &  Drew,  Stratford  by  Mr,  Davidson, 
London  by  Bayly  &  Bayly.  Each  county  had  a  separate  man  to  close  up 
the  right-of-way  transactions.  Agreements  were  taken  by  the  land  department, 
and  when  a  sufficient  number  of  these  had  been  got  together  the  deeds  were 
drawn  up  and  Mr.  Lobb  drew  money  from  the  Commission,  and  this  money 
was  accounted  for  by  way  of  the  right-of-way  deed. 

Q. — Is  it  possible  from  this  account  to  show  what  amounts  were  paid  to 
Messrs.  Martin  &  Martin  and  other  out-of-town  solicitors  for  right-of-way  and 
other  fees  ?  A. — No,  you  could  not  do  that.  Some  of  them  included  a  number 
of  deeds  in  one  draft,  and  others  drew  for  separate  deeds. 

Q. — So  from  this  bill  you  could  not  tell  what  was  paid  for  fees? 
A. — No,  the  bill  includes  what  was  paid  for  fees  and  the  amount  of  dis- 
bursements ;  also  you^will  see  that  $5  is  the  amount  usually  allo\ved  for  a  deed, 
but  in  some  cases  where  they  had  considerable  trouble  $7.50  was  allowed,  and 
in  exceptional  cases  $10. 

Q. — Has  Mr.  Lobb  in  any  cases  charged  more  than  $30  per  day? 
A. — Yes,  later  on,  in  September  and  October. 

Q. — Yes,  I  saw  in  some  places  that  he  charged  as  high  as  $40  per  day? 
A.— Yes. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:  But  that  is  only  a  charge. 

Q. — Do  you  know  of  him  charging  more  than  $40  per  day?  A. — No. 
This  is  the  only  bill  we  have  received  from  Mr.  Lobb,  and  it  is  under  con- 
sideration. 

Q.— In  that  other  bill  of  Mr.  Lobb's  there  is  an  amount  of  $2,000.  Is 
that  part  of  the  $10,000  which  you  have  mentioned  ?  A.— Yes.  The  $10,000 
covers  items  one  and  two,  about  which  you  asked  particulars.  He  had  drawn 
nothing  for  his  services  during  these  years  until  1909.  I  have  his  vouchers 
for  the  amount  mentioned. 

Q. — The  next  item  of  general  expenses — perhaps  we  had  better  stick  to 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1. 


legal  expenses— on  page  445  for  $3,000.     A.— That  is  also  part  of  the  $10,000 
I  have  mentioned,  and  is  represented  by  one  payment  of  $3,000  on  March  the 

first. 

Q. — Now  with  regard  to  the  item  of  $7,745,  sundry  fees  charged  by  A. 
F.  Lobb.  A. — That  is  covered  by  the  accounts  you  have  in  your  hand.  If  you 
figure  at  $30  and  $5  per  day,  it  will  divide  into  this  sum  although  I  have  no 
special  particulars  of  the  $7,745. 

Q. — DO  I  understand  that  the  amount  is  made  up  at  $35  and  $40  per 
day  ?  A.— Yes. 

Q.— And  it  is  all  covered  by  the  $7,745  ?     A. — Yes. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :  You  will  notice  in  the  statement  there  it  should 
be  unaccounted  for.  It  is  not  settled  yet. 

Q. — Do  I  understand  that  the  $7,745  pays  Mr.  Lobb  for  his  time  from 
the  first  of  March  to  the  thirty-first  of  October,  but  the  account  has  not  been 
paid  yet  ?  A. — Yes,  sir.  He  merely  put  in  a  statement  for  the  time  spent, 
and  accounts  for  the  moneys  he  has  handled  in  that  way. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q" — After  the  final  settlement  the  amount  will  not  necessarily  be  so  high  ? 
A. — No.  Whatever  is  right  he  will  get  credit  for  and  any  balance  remaining 
will  be  returned  to  the  Commission. 

Q. — Well  now,  this  item  of  $3,000  for  legal  expenses  ?  A. — As  explained, 
that  comes  in  before  the  first  of  March,  1909. 

Q. — What  about  the  item  for  general  expenses,  $1,026.91? 

The  CHAIRMAN:  That  is  not  asked  for. 

Q. — Well  then,  proportion  of  general  expenses,  $7,188.30,  on  page  444? 
A. — .It  arises  in  this  way;  a  voucher  may  cover  a  considerable  amount  of 
money  paid  in  a  lump  sum.  That  is  divided  by  the  account  and  charged  to  the 
different  branches  of  the  work  to  which  the  various  items  may  be  applicable. 
It  may  be  transmission  line,  telephone  line,  right-of-way,  or  any  other  account. 
Any  number,  of  these  might  be  included  in  an  item  for  general  expenses. 

Q. — Are  there  any  fees  for  solicitors  included  in  that  item?  A. — None 
that  I  know  of. 

Q. — Would  you  be  able  to  present  the  details  of  such  a  statement?  A. — 
It  would  take  a  great  deal  of  time  and  the  accountant  might  have  to  go  through 
four  or  five  hundred  vouchers. 

Q. — What  time  is  covered  by  this  charge?  A. — The  first  ten  months  of 
1909. 

Q. — Well  now,  there  is  an  item  on  page  445,  automobiles,  $15,176.61. 
Have  you  any  particulars  of  that  ?  A. — Yes,  sir.  I  have  the  vouchers.  They 
call  for  four  automobiles,  two  second-hand  machines  for  which  $3,250  was  paid. 

Q. — What  make  are  the  second-hand  machines  ?  A. — One  is  an  Olds  and 
the  other  a  Mitchell. 

Q. — What  price  was  paid  for  each  ?    A. — The  two  were  lumped  together. 

Q. — Who  were  they  bought  from?  A. — The  Automobile  and  Supply 
Company,  Limited. 


20  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Q._Of  where  ?     A.— Of  Toronto. 

Q. — is  there  any  correspondence  relating  to  the  purchase  of  these  auto- 
mobiles?    A. — None  that  I  know  of. 
By  Mr.  PROUDFOOT. 

Q. — Do  you  know  anything  about  the  power  of  these  machines?     A.— 
do  not  know  anything  about  automobiles  whatever.     These  were  purchased 
prior  to  my  joining  the  Commission. 

Q. — Could  you  give  any  information  as  to  whom  the  automobiles  were 
purchased  by  ?    A. — I  could  find  it  out. 
By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Now  about  the  two  other  automobiles  ?  A. — There  ia  a  new  Eussell 
car  which  cost  $4,254. 

Q. — Who  was  it  purchased  from?    A. — Canada  Cycle  and  Motor  Company, 
Limited. 

Q. — And  the  other  one  ?  A. — That  was  a  Pearce  Great  Arrow,  and  was 
bought  for  $5,259. 

Q. — Where  are  these  autos  now  ?  A.» — Three  are  at  the  garage  in  Toronto 
and  the  other  is  in  Hamilton. 

Q. — What  one  is  in  Hamilton?  A. — I  do  not  know.  The  general  in- 
spector has  one  on  the  line,  and  the  chief  engineer  has  one  at  his  disposal.  He 
has  charge  of  them  and  distributes  them  as  they  are  required  along  the  right- 
of-way. 

Q.' — Who  could  tell  us  about  them?     A. — I  think  Mr.  Beck  could. 
Q. — You  know  nothing  about  who  made  the  purchase  of  these  autos? 
A.— No. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATIIESOT*. 

Q. — Does  this  item  include  any  portion  of  the  cost  of  running  the  ma- 
chines?    A. — Yes,  sir,  it  includes  the  upkeep. 
Q.— How  much  ?    A.— About  $2,413.61. 
Q. — Who  is  the  chauffeur?    A. — I  do  not  know. 

Q. — Do  you  know  what  his  salary  is  ?  A. — There  are  four  cars.  I  think 
they  have  as  many  as  three  men  at  a  time,  and  when  the  demand  for  the  cars 
is  light  they  keep  two.  I  think  two  are  kept  permanently. 

Q. — Do  you  know  what  wages  they  are  paid  ?    A. — Fifty  dollars  a  month, 
I  think.     Then  there  is  the  rent  of  the  garage  to  keep  them  in  and  repairs. 
Mr.  PROUDFOOT. 

Q.' — Do  they  supply  the  solicitor  with  one  ?    A. — Not  yet. 
Q. — One  more  question,  Mr.  Pope.     You  stated  that  Mr.  LobVs  fee  was 
thirty  dollars  to  forty  dollars  per  day.     Does  he  make    these    charges   on    his 
own  responsibility? 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATiiESoisr. 

Mr.  Lobb  made  these  charges,  but  I  understand  that  this  is  not  a  bill  which 
has  been  paid  ?  A. — Mr.  Lobb  states  that  for  a  considerable  period  he  spent  his 
whole  time  on  the  work,  day,  night  and  Sunday.  This  was  during  the  later 
months  of  the  year  when  the  work  took  practically  every  moment  of  his  time, 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  21 


for  which  he  made  the  additional  charge.  None  of  these  accounts  have  been 
acknowledged,  nor  has  the  Commission  agreed  to  pay  them.  At  the  rate  of 
$40  per  day  the  item  would  amount  to  $12,000  per  year. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — Bat  so  far  his  fees  were  only  settled  at  $400  per  month. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — But  he  had  been  paid  some  money?  A. — He  drew  money  from  the 
Commission,  deposited  to  his  credit  in  the  bank,  and  paid  the  drafts  against 
the  right-of-way  deeds.  When  I  came  in  the  system  was  changed,  and  the 
drafts  were  made  on  the  Commission  instead  of  on  Mr.  Lobb. 

Q. — You  have  changed  the  system  from  what  Mr.  Lobb  had  before  you 
took  charge  ?  A. —  Yes,  in  fact  we  have  gone  back  to  the  system  that  obtained 
before  Mr.  Lobb  took  over  the  right-of-way. 

The  witness  was  discharged. 


Mr.  THOMAS  W.  GIBSON,  Deputy  Minister  of  Mines,  called,  sworn  and 
examined. 

By  Mr.  McDouoAL. 

Q. — On  page  418  there  is  an  item  for  mining,  $235,098.04.  What  does 
that  cover?  A. — That  covers  receipts  from  the  sale  of  mining  lands  during 
the  first  ten  months  of  1909. 

Q. — What  land  does  it  include?  A. — It  includes  ordinary  mining  lands 
sold  at  the  price  of  $250  or  $300  per  acre,  and  also  some  locations. 

Q. — There  were  no  locations  in  the  Gillies  Limit  sold  before  the  time  that 
this  item  covers  ?  A. — !N"o,  sir. 

Q. — Then  how  much  of  this  is  for  locations  in  the  Gillies  Limit?  A. — 
$20.9,968.70. 

Q. — How  is  that  made  up  ?  A. — I  do  not  know,  but  I  can  get  you  a  de- 
tailed statement,  which  would  require  a  little  time.  I  just  got  the  notice  to 
appear  before  the  Committee  last  night,  but  I  have  some  of  the  papers  here. 
It  is  for  sales  during  the  ten  months,  but  only  covers  actual  receipts. 

Q. — Can  you  prepare  us  a  detailed  statement  of  the  different  amounts 
received  for  the  various  locations,  and  also  the  dates  of  sale?  A. — Yes,  there 
will  be  no  difficulty  about  that. 

Q. — What  portion  of  the  Gillies  Limit  has  been  prospected  by  the  Govern- 
ment ?  A. — The  whole  of  the  limit. 

Q. — How  many  acres  does  the  limit  contain  ?    A. — 64,000  acres. 

Q. — Has  it  all  been  prospected  ?  A. — Yes,  it  has  all  been  prospected,  but 
some  portions  more  thoroughly  than  others. 

Q. — What  portion  of  it  is  mineralized  ?  A. — That's  a  somewhat  difficult 
question  to  answer,  because  it  depends  on  what  is  meant  by  mineralized. 

Q. — What  portion  is  known  to  contain  minerals  ?  A. — I  would  like  to 
answer  that  question,  but  I  cannot. 


22  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Q., — Who  prospected  the  Gillies  Limit?  A. — It  was  prospected  under 
the  direction  of  the  Provincial  Geologist. 

Q. — And  to  whom  did  the  prospectors  report?  A. — They  reported  to 
the  Provincial  Geologist,  and  he  reported  to  the  Minister. 

Q. — Are  these  reports  on  file?     A. — They  were  largely  unwritten  reports. 

Q. — Were  there  any  written  reports?     A, — Yes. 

Q. — Is  there  anything  in  the  Department  to  show  what  the  result  of  in- 
vestigation under  the  Provincial  Geologist  was  ?  A. — Yes,  there  are  geological 
maps,  showing  the  geology  of  the  limit. 

Q. — l,s  there  any  map  showing  the  result  of  the  investigation  as  to  the, 
discovery  of  veins,  etc?  A. — Maps  have  been  published  of  those  portions  of 
the  Gillies  Limit  which  were  offered  for  sale.  , 

Q. — When  were  these  maps  published?  A. — I  think  three  years  ago  the 
maps  were  issued,  showing  a  portion  of  the  Gillies  Limit. 

By  Mr.  JOHNSON. 

Q. — In  what  year  was  the  Gillies  Limit  granted  to  these  people?  A. — I 
suppose  the  Gillies  Limit  has  been  under  timber  license  for  fifty  years. 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q. — When  was  the  last  map  published?  A. — There  has  just  been  one 
geological  map,  and  it  does  not  cover  the  whole  of  the  limit. 

Q. — And  that  map  was  published  three  years  ago  ?    A. — Three  years  ago. 

Q. — Have  you  any  report  of  the  investigation  of  your  prospectors  within 
the  last  three  years  ?  A. — Do  you  mean  a  written  report  ? 

Q. —  Yes.     A. — I  cannot  say  that  we  have. 

Q. — Well  you,  as  Deputy  Minister  of  Mines,  would  know  if  you  had  any 
maps  or  written  reports  by  the  prospectors?  A. — We  have  on  file  a  map  of 
the  Gillies  Limit. 

Q. — But  you  say  that  was  published  three  years  ago?  A.1 — No,  we  have 
on  file  a  map  showing  the  geology  of  the  Gillies  Limit.  It  is  a  manuscript  map 
and  quite  distinct  from  the  one  published  three  years  ago  which  shows  only 
those  portions  which  have  been  offered  for  sale.  The  former  shows  the  char- 
acter of  the  rock  formations  and  that  has  not  been  published. 

Q. — You  have  a  map  in  the  Department  showing  the  result  of  the  investi- 
gations of  the  prospectors  which  has  not  been  published?  A. — So  far  as  the 
geology  is  concerned,  it  shows  the  geology — the  character  of  the  rock  forma- 
tions. 

Q. — Do  you  know  whether  the  outside  public  would  have  access  to  that 
map  ?  A. — I  do  not  know  that  it  would  give  much  information  that  would  be 
of  interest  to  the  public.  The  map  was  prepared  for  the  use  of  the  Department. 

Q. — Do  you  consider  this  as  a  confidential  map  for  the  use  of  the  De- 
partment ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Have  you  any  map  or  any  report  showing  any  trenching  that  may 
Ihave  been  done  by  the  Government?  A. — We  have  reports  showing  some  of 
the  trenching  that  was  done. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  23 


Q._\Vho  lias  access  to  these  reports?  A. — The  Minister  and  Deputy 
Minister. 

Q. — They  are  confidential  in  the  same  way?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Do  you  publish  any  of  these  reports  ?  A. — No,  sir.  But  I  will  have 
to  qualify  that  some.  Information  has  been  given  in  the  report  of  the  Bureau 
of  Mines  from  year  to  year,  as  to  what  has  been  done  on  the  Gillies  Limit. 

Q. — Has  any  report  been  published  showing  what  has  been  discovered  on 
portions  of  the  Gillies  Limit  ?  A. — Yes,  I  think  all  information  of  that  kind 
has  been  published  in  the  report  of  the  Bureau  of  Mines.  I  fancy  that  a  vein 
or  veins  discovered  in  1906  by  the  Government  prospectors  was  mentioned  in 
the  following  report. 

Q. — Were  all  veins  that  were  discovered  disclosed  to  the  public  ?  A. — I 
think  so,  either  through  the  report  or  the  map  that  was  published  three  years 


.Q. — Was  it  given  out  by  way  of  reports?  A. — In  a  general  way  I  think 
'A,  was. 

Q. — Were  the  specific  findings  of  the  prospectors  given  out  to  the  public  ? 
A.— No. 

Q. — Were  the  reports  of  those  who  were  working  the  Provincial  mine 
given  verbally  to  the  minister  ?  A. — Largely  by  the  Provincial  Geologist.  He 
had  charge  of  how  the  trenching  should  be  done. 

Q. — And  that  information  was  not  given  to  the  public  in  any  way  ?  A. — 
Some  of  it  was,  in  the  report  of  the  Bureau  of  Mines.  The  trenching  was  largely 
confined  to  the  northern  portion  of  the  limit.  It  is  a  difficult  and  expensive 
matter  to  undertake  trenching  on  a  large  scale,  and  the  portion  that  we  under- 
took to  trench  was  considered  to  be  valuable. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — I  suppose  the  Minister  would  naturally  make  enquiries  from  the 
Geologist  ?  A. — Yes,  he  was  constantly  in  touch  with  what  was  being  done. 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q. — You  would  not  give  any  specific  information  as  to  what  had  been 
found  ?  A. — No,  only  in  a  general  way. 

Q. — How  much  did  Mr.  O'Brien  pay  for  the  parcel  he  obtained  ?  A.— 
$10,500. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

>Q. — I  suppose,  Mr.  Gibson,  a  man  might  be  deceived  by  your  giving  out 
this  information.  The  vein  might  not  turn  out  as  well  as  you  expected  ? 
A. — We  did  not  wish  to  deceive  the  public. 

Q. — In  connection  with  these  findings,  you  repeatedly  had  people  say 
that  they  had  found  a  rich  vein  ?  A.< — We  have  had  dozens  of  people  tell  us 
that  they  had  discovered  a  valuable  vein  on  the  limit.  We  investigated  every 
one,  and  there  was  not  a  scintilla  of  truth  in  any  of  them. 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q. — If  private  parties  had  gained  some  of  the  Government  information, 
would  that  not  help  them  in  bidding  ?  A. — It  would  not  help  them  a  bit. 


APPENDIX  No.  i.  1910 


Q. — Then  your  information  was  of  no  use  ?  And  of  no  use  to  the  public  ? 
A. — It  was  largely  negative. 

Q. — Didn't  you  find  any  good  veins  at  all  ?  A. — Only  the  vein  eta.  the 
Provincial  mine.  It  appeared  good  on  the  surface,  but  it  did  not  carry  silver 
down  to  any  great  depth. 

By  the  CHAIRMAN. 

Q. — There  are  good  properties  on  the  limit?  A. — Location  A23  sold  to 
Robt.  McKay  for  $10,500,  which  has  just  been  referred  to. 

Q. — What  date  was  that?  A. — That  was  in  connection  with  the  first 
sale,  in  June,  1909. 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q. — Do  you  know  the  amount  of  the  transfer  to  Mr.  O'Brien?  A. — I 
do  not  know. 

Q. — What  was  the  date  of  the  transfer?  A. — I  could  not  give  you  the 
date. 

Q. — Nor  the  consideration,?     A. — I  could  not  tell  you  that. 

Q. — Will  not  your  papers  show  it?     A. — Not  these  I  have  here. 

Q. — Would  there  not  be  some  information  on  the  transfer?  A.> — We 
sold  it  to  McKay  for  $10,500.  He  paid  the  money  and  made  a  transfer  to 
another  party.  The  transfer  rarely  shows  the  real  consideration. 

Q. — Were  the  lands  sold  by  public  tender  ?     A. — Yes,  sir. 

Q. — Will  you  produce  the  transfer  and  whatever  papers  are  in  the  De- 
partment with  regard  to  it  ?  A. — I  have  no  objection  if  the  Committee  orders. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — Mr.  Gibson,  is  there  not  a  provision  for  a  royalty  of  10  per  cent,  to 
be  paid  on  the  output,  so  that  if  the  mine  turns  out  well  the  Government  will 
receive  the  benefit?  A. — Yes,  sir. 


The  Committee  adjourned. 


COMMITTEE  ROOM. 

Toronto,  March  2,  1910. 

'IJon.  Adam  Beck,  called,  sworn  and  examined  by  Mr.  Elliott. 

"Q, — You  are  chairman  of  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission? 
A.— Yes. 

Q. — Will  you  please  state  what  the  arrangements  are  with  regard  to  the 
engagements  of  solicitors?  A. — The  solicitors  engaged  in  the  work  in  con- 
nection with  the  right-of-way  or  the  one  attached  to  the  Hydro-Electric  Com- 
mission ? 

Q. — The  one  attached.  A. — The  only  permanent  solicitor  we  have 
engaged  by  the  month,  or  year,  is  Mr.  Lobb. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  25 


Q. — What  arrangement  was  made  with  him  ?  A. — The  arrangement 
was  that  he  should  receive  the  same  salary  as  the  solicitor  for  the  Temiskaming 
and  Northern  Ontario  Kailway,  that  is,  $400  per  month  and  expenses. 

Q. — When  was  that  arrangement  made  ?  A. — That  was  made  when  he 
came  into  the  service. 

Q. — About  what  date  was  that?     A. — Two  or  three  years  ago. 
Q. — And  he  billed  you,  as  I  understand  it,  at  that  rate  until  the  first  of 
March,  1909  ?     A.— Yes. 

Q; — Was  there  any  other  arrangement  made  with  him?  A. — Not 
any,  other  than  this,  which  was  indefinite.  As  we  did  not  really 
know  what  the  work  would  amount  to  in  March,  the  Commission  felt  that 
someone  would  have  to  give  his  whole  attention  to  the  right-of-way.  There 
were  considerable  adjustments  to  be  made  and  some  litigations  pending,  and  to 
secure  the  right-of-way  in  time  for  the  contractors  it  was  felt  that  someone 
would  have  to  be  engaged  to  give  his  whole  time  to  the  work.  Mr.  Lobb  had 
been  connected  with  the  work  until  that  time,  so  he  was  authorized  to  take 
charge  of  the  work  and  give  what  time  was  necessary  to  it.  He  could  not  give 
us  any  idea  what  time  he  would  have  to  give,  so  wre  said  we  would  adjust  that 
later  on.  Mr.  Lobb  went  to  work  and  gave  whatever  time  was  necessary,  and 
I  believe  gave  the  whole  of  his  time. 
By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — This  $400  per  month  included  his  office  expenses  ?  A. — Yes,  $400 
was  not  only  for  his  own  work,  but  for  the  office  expenses.  It  was  for  every- 
thing. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — But  not  travelling  or  hotel  expenses  ?     A. — They  were  extra. 
Q. — Then  I  understand  that  $400  per  month  paid  for  all  his  time  until 
March,  1909  ? 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :    Mr.  Beck  does  not  understand  what  you  mean. 
That  arrangement  was  in  full  payment  of  his  services  for  all  the  time  given  to 
the  work  of  the  Hydro-Electric  up  to  March.     He  was  simply  paid  for  the  time 
he  devoted  to  the  Hydro-Electric  during  that  period?     A. — Yes. 
By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — What  work  did  that  include  ?  A. — Everything  that  the  Commission 
had  to  do ;  drawing  up  contracts,  examining  bylaws  and  agreements,  etc. 

Q. — So  that  after  the  first  of  March  a  different  arrangement  was  made? 
A. — Yes,  but  there  was  no  fixed  rate  settled  upon. 

Q. — Have  his  accounts  been  rendered  until  the  end  of  October,  1909  ? 
A. — Yes,  but  they  have  not  been  paid  yet. 

Q. — Was  there  any  discussion  by  the  Commission  as  to  passing  or  re- 
jecting the  amounts  charged?  A. — Yes,  the  Commission  thought  that  the 
accounts  should  be  sent  to  the  Attorney-General  to  be  examined.  We  did  not 
think  that  the  Commission  would  be  justified  in  saying  that  they  were  right 
or  wrong,  and  we  thought  we  might  leave  it  to  the  Attorney-General  to  be  taxed. 


26  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Q. — Up  until  the  latter  part  of  1909,  that  is  for  the  ten  months  of  that 
year,  he  was  billing  the  Commission  at  $40  per  day  ?  A. — I  believe  there  were 
some  charges  at  $30  per  day  and  $40. 

Q. — Forty  dollars  was  the  last  charge  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — Can  you  give  any  idea  whether  that  charge  was  too  high  ?  A. — I  do 
not  think  the  accounts  should  be  before  this  Committee.  They  are  not  paid  yet 
and  we  will  ask  for  advice  as  to  the  charges  made.  Advances  were  made  from 
'.time  to  time  for  which  he  gives  a  statement. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — The  whole  payments  did  not  exceed  $400  per  month  ?  A. — We  pro- 
tected ourselves  to  that  extent,  in  case,  after  taxing,  the  amount  given  would 
Hot  entitle  him  to  what  was  claimed  in  his  bill. 

^By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

My  point  is  this,  Mr.  Chairman,  these  accounts  appear  in  the  public  ac- 
counts for  the  ten  months  ending  October  31,  1909,  and  I  submit  that  we 
are  entitled  to  have  some  reasonable  idea,  as  far  as  the  Commission  knows,  as 
to  how  much  the  Province  will  be  called  upon  to  pay. 

Q. — Would  you  consider  $40  per  day,  and  $5  in  addition  for  expenses, 
'a  reasonable  amount  ?  A. — Have  I  a  right  to  state  what  amount  I  consider  the 
Commission  should  be  billed  at  ? 

Mr.  Me  GARRY. 

.  I  do  not  think  we  should  listen  to  this  questioning  by  Mr.  Elliott.  A 
legal  man  has  a  right  to  charge  what  his  "work  is  worth,  and  it  is  not  fair  to 
ask  a  layman. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT  :  As  a  member  of  the  Committee  that  has  to  deal  with  these 
accounts  I  submit  that  we  are  entitled  to  the  information  from  a  member  of 
the  Commission. 

Hon.  Mr.  BECK:  Mr.  Chairman,  we  have  not  dealt  with  the  accounts, 
but  have  safeguarded  the  Province  by  advancing  an  amount  equal  to  what  he 
had  been  receiving  until  that  time,  and  will  leave  the  adjustment  of  any  future 
amounts  to  be  paid  in  the  hands  of  a  law  officer.  I  do  not  think  that  I  should 
be  called  upon  to  say  what  is  a  reasonable  charge.  If  the  Commission  had  paid 
the  account  and  settled  the  matter  it  would  have  been  different. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT:  As  I  understood  Mr.  Pope  the  other  day,  Mr.  Lobb  has 
charged  the  Commission  with  money  held  by  him. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :    But  that  is  shown  in  the  bill. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT:  That  is  all  we  have  at  the  present  time,  and  I  think  an 
answer  to  my  question  is  evidence. 

Mr.  POPE  (in  attendance)  :  But  the  accounts  have  not  yet,  been  passed 
by  the  Commission. 

Hon.  Mr.  BECK  :  I  certainly  think  you  are  asking  for  some  information 
which  is  out  of  the  way. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:  Do  you  think  it  in  the  interest  of  the  Province 
that  the  chairman  of  the  Commission  should  give  his  opinion  of  a  thing  upon 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  27 


which  the  Commission  has  not  decided  ?  If  he  gave  his  opinion  it  might  go 
against  them  in  taxing.  I  do  not  think  his  opinion  should  be  asked. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT:  I  suppose  if  the  Commission  had  considered  it  a  reason- 
able charge  they  would  pay  the  account. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESOIST  :    Up  to  $400. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — The  moneys  Mr.  Lobb  has  held  back — do  they  amount  to  $400  per 
month  and  expenses  ?  A. — $400  per  month  and  expenses. 

Q. — Thifs  is  the  amount  he  has  charged  on  account  ?  A. — Mr.  Chairman, 
Mr.  Lobb  was  one  and  one  half  years  in  the  service  of  the  Commission  before 
he  was  paid  a  dollar,  and  then  he  went  on  at  the  same  rate,  and  then  we  said, 
pending  some  knowledge  of  what  amount  he  should  get,  we  would  continue 
advancing  him  amounts  equal  to  that. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESO^. 

I  understand  that  the  amounts  paid  to  him  were  on  account  of  his  previous 
services  ? 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

In  Mr.  Pope's  statement  he  says  that  the  $10,000  paid  to  Mr.  Lobb  during 
March  covers  items  one  and  two,  about  which  particulars  were  asked  yester- 
day. The  explanation  of  Mr.  Pope,  as  I  understand  it,  is  that  up  to  October 
31,  1909,  Mr.  Lobb  charged  for  part  of  his  time  at  $40  per  day,  and  $5  added 
for  expenses,  and  that  he  has  held  back  enough  to  meet  this  charge,  as  well  as 
his  charge  of  $400  per  month  to  the  first  of  March,  1909,  and  still  has  a  bal- 
ance, as  per  statement,  of  $2,279.39. 

Hon.  Mr.  BECK  :  Mr.  Pope  will  have  the  explanation  of  that,  Mr.  Chair- 
man. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Does  Mr.  Lobb  hold  moneys  at  $30  and  $40  per  day  ? 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATIIESON. 

There  was  no  exact  settlement.  Until  the  first  of  March  he  was  paid  at 
$400  per  month. 

Hon.  Mr.  SECK  :     That  was  to  be  his  remuneration  for  his  services. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT:  It  is  a  simple  question  and  can  be  answered  in  a  simple 
way,  and  we  can  understand  whether  or  not  Mr.  Lobb  at  the  present  time 
holds  funds  of  the  Commission  and  has  charged  the  Commission  with  his  ser- 
vices at  a  higher  rate  than  $400  per  month. 

A. — You  want  to  know  whether  he  has  been  paid  any  more  than  $400  per 
month  ?  I  told  you  he  has  not  been  paid  for  all  his  services  at  more  than  $400 
per  month.  The  balance  011  hand,  shown  in  the  public  accounts,  is  not  for 
wages  at  all.  It  is  money  he  has  drawn  for  payments  on  account  of  right-of- 
way.  Moneys  were  passed  to  the  credit  of  his  account  to  pay  the  solicitors. 
He  is  one  of  the  solicitors,  and  amounts  have  been  granted  him  for  his  own 
services.  We  have  always  reserved  enough  so  that  he  would  not  be  paid  at 
more  than  $400  per  month. 


28  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Q. — Can  you  tell  me  how  much  he  has  charged  up  against  the  Commis- 
sion. A. — No,  Mr.  Pope  has  those  items. 

By  Mr.  McDotrGAL. 

Q. — Does  not  Mr.  Lobb  hold  the  full  amount  for  his  bill  ?  Mr.  Pope. — 
No,  sir. 

Q;.' — Then  the  balance  remains,  charged  at  what  rate  for  his  services? 
A. — At  the  rate  of  less  than  $400  per  month. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

There  is  a  charge  of  $7,395  of  which  $395  was  paid  to  T.  G.  Meredith,  of 
London,  which  leaves  a  balance  of  $7,000  paid  on  account  of  his  services  from 
.March  of  1906  to  March  of  1909,  at  the  rate  of  $4,800  per  year,  which  is  part 
of  $10,000  paid  out  on  account  of  services  prior  to  the  first  of  March,  1909. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

The  difference  between  the  Commission  and  Lobb  is,  that  Mr.  Lobb 
was  engaged  at  that  rate,  but  the  Commission  has  only  allowed  that  amount 
•after  the  first  of  March  of  this  year,  during  which  time  Mr.  Lobb  had  charge 
of  the  right-of-way. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Has  any  proceeding  been  taken  to  tax  his  account  up  to  the  present 
time?  A. — Not  yet. 

Q. — Has  the  Commission  decided  to  tax  the  bills  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — When  was  that  decision  arrived  at?     A. — A  month  or  two  ago. 

Q.— Not  before  October  31,  1,909  ?     A.— Oh,  no. 

Q. — They  will  be  taxed  in  due  course?     A. — I  suppose  so. 

Q. — You  have  not  any  contract  at  the  present  time  for  the  whole  of  his 
services  ?  A. — No. 

Q. — Not  from  the  first  of  March,  1909  ?     A. — No. 

Q. — There  was  a  definite  amount  fixed  at  $400  a  month  at  one  time,  and 
when  you  decided  that  he  should  take  charge  of  the  right-of-way  no  definite 
amount  was  fixed?  A. — No.  The  Commission  decided  that  he  should  give 
his  services,  or  they  would  not  be  able  to  secure  the  right-of-way  in  time.  We 
could  not  tell  how  much  time  he  would  require,  and  we  did  not  know  what  his 
time  was  worth,  so  the  Commission  decided  to  have  his  bill  taxed. 

Q. — The  Commission  feel  that  they  have  been  billed  too  high,  and  for  that 
reason  have  decided  to  have  the  bill  taxed  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — -Has  there  been  any  decision  as  to  who  will  tax  the  bill  ?     A. — No. 

Q. — I  understand  that  there  is  no  dispute  about  the  bill,  but  merely  that 
you  wish  to  be  sure  as  to  the  payment?  A. — Yes. 

By  Mr.  McDouaAL. 

You  do  not  wish  to  convey  the  impression  that  you  will  appear  before  the 
taxing  officer  at  Osgoode  Hall,  but  merely  that  you  desire  to  have  the  Attorney- 
General  pass  the  account  ?  A. — Mr.  Chairman,  we  have  to  give  an  accounting 
of  this  bill  to  the  municipalities,  and  as  we  felt  that  this  was  a  bill  which  we 
could  not  judge  ourselves  we  determined  to  refer  it  to  the  Attorney-General. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  29 


There  are,  no  doubt,  similar  cases  occurring  from  time  to  time,  so  we  deter- 
mined to  pursue  the  same  course. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Can  you  tell  me  the  date  when  he  first  came  into  the  service  of  the 
Commission?  ;A. — I  think  in  March,  1906.  We  arrived  at  his  salary  by 
what  was  paid  to  the  solicitor  of  the  T.  &  N.  O. 

Q._Who  is  the  solicitor  for  the  T.  &  N.  O.  ?     A.— D.  E.  Thompson,  K.C. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:  The  solicitor  for  the  T.  &  E".  O.  takes  charge  of 
the  litigation  and  deals  with  the  question  of  rates,  contracts,  etc. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — The  $400  per  month  paid  him  covers  everything  he  does  for  the 
Commission  ? 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:    And  expenses. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Does  he  devote  his  whole  time  to  the  T.  &  N ,  0.  ?  Hon.  Mr. 
Matheson. — No. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Is  Mr.  Lobb  allowed  to  go  on  with  his  practice  in  the  same  way? 
A.— He  did. 

Q. — So  that  the  payments  up  to  the  present  time  did  not  preclude  him 
from  practising  his  profession  otherwise  than  for  the  Hydro-Electric? 
A.— No,  but  I  believe  he  claims  that  he  gave  his  whole  time  night,  day 
and  Sundays,  in  connection  with  the  right-of-way  during  the  summer. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:  It  includes  all  his  fees,  stenographer,  etc. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Has  he  charged  for  Sundays  as  far  as  you  know?     A. — I  think  so. 

Q. — Now  then,  there  is  an  item  for  general  expenses,  $7,188.30. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:  That  is  the  division  between  the  Niagara  trans- 
mission line  and  the  other  projects. 

Hon.  Mr.  BECK  :  Mr.  Pope,  I  think,  will  be  able  to  tell  you  about  that. 

Mr.  POPE  :  It  includes  a  large  number  of  items  which  cannot  be  charged 
to  any  specific  account.  They  are  all  lumped  and  put  into  this  general  account. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:  These  are  different  charges,  made,  for  instance, 
against  Port  Arthur  and  other  transmission  projects,  and  some  against  the 
Niagara  transmission. 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q. — Could  not  the  details  be  given  ?  A. — Not  very  well.  The  accountant 
would  require  to  go  through  several  hundred  vouchers.  For  instance,  Mr. 
Sothmann's  salary  is  divided  between  these  accounts. 

Hon.  Mr.  BECK  :  We  have  a  twofold  work.  First  we  have  our  work  in 
connection  with  the  Niagara  transmission,  and  then  there  is  a  great  deal  of 
work  and  reporting  to  be  done  on  the  part  of  the  water-powers  of  the  Province 
as  a  whole,  from  the  Mississippi  River  in  the  west  to  the  Moyer  River  in  the 
east,  and  other  undertakings  which  are  not  chargeable  to  any  municipality, 
and  is  general  information  which  is  chargeable  only  to  the  Province. 


30  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  1910 


Q. — Are  they  included  in  this  list  of  expenses  ?  A. — They  are  a  portion 
of  the  whole. 

Q. — What  proportion  of  the  cost  of  this  amount  is  chargeable  to  the 
Niagara  transmission  ?  A. — Simply  the  proportion  that  deals  with  work  in 
connection  with  the  Niagara  transmission.  Anything  which  was  of  a  general 
nature  and  of  general  benefit  to  the  Province  was  accounted  for  in  this  way; 
for  instance,  a  deputation  comes  down  and  asks  the  Commission  for  a  report 
on  the  storage  capacity  of  the  Grand  River,  the  River  Thames,  and  other 
streams. 

Q. — How  much  of  the  money  charged  in  this  account  will  not  be  charged 
against  the  municipalities?  I  refer  to  the  total  in  the  outside  column, 
$486,893.73.  I  suppose  if  they  take  power  afterwards  you  will  charge  this 
preliminary  cost  to  them.  A. — No.  At  one  time  we  started  to  obtain  reports 
covering  the  whole  ,of  the  Province. 

Q. — It  is  current  expenditure,  and  you  do  not  expect  to  get  any  return 
from  it? 

Mr.  MC?GARRY:  Mr.  Chairman,  I  object  to  Mr.  Elliott  asking  any  witness 
questions  of  Government  policy. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESO^:  The  charges  are  put  through  capital  account. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

'Q. — There  is  an  item,  Mr.  Beck,  of  $15,176.61  for  four  automobiles. 
What  was  the  idea  of  the  Commission  in  obtaining  these  automobiles  ?  A.— To 
carry  on  the  work  of  the  Commission. 

Q. — Were  they  used  on  certain  districts  only,  or  on  all  the  work? 
A. — There  was  no  particular  work  for  any  machine. 

Q. — What  was  the  idea  in  getting  four?     A. — They  were  required. 

Q. — Were  they  assigned  to  perform  particular  duties?     A. — No. 

Q. — Was  there  any  division  of  labour  among  them?  A. — There  might 
be  by  the  engineer,  but  not  by  the  Commission.  They  were  under  his  charge 
and  used  in  connection  with  the  construction  of  the  line. 

Q. — You  bought  the  four  with  a  lump  sum?  A. — The  recommendation 
of  the  engineer  was  that  he  would  require  six  automobiles.  The  purpose  was 
to  convey  the  engineers  and  inspectors  from  one  part  of  the  work  to  another. 
fThey  were  to  be  used  by  anyone  who  required  them  in  connection  with  the  work 
of  the  Commission.  A  room  was  obtained  to  store  them  when  in  the  city. 
The  rule  was  that  they  would  be  kept  for  use  by  anyone  who  required  them 
at  any  time.  The  Commission  cut  the  recommendation  of  the  engineer  down 
to  four  automobiles. 

Q. — What  rule  did  you  follow  in  purchasing  these  automobiles?  A. — I 
think  we  advertised  for  tenders. 

Q. — In  what  papers?  A. — Well,  really,  I  do  not  know  whether  we 
actually  advertised,  but  we  asked  all  manufacturers  and  dealers  in  automobiles 
to  submit  tenders.  We  had  regular  specifications  outlining  the  duties  they 
would  be  required  to  perform,  and  sent  them  to  the  different  manufacturers 
and  dealers  in  the  city. 


Edw.  VI L  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  31 


By  Mr.  CLARKE  (West  Northumberland.) 

Q. — Were  the  specifications  the  same  for  the  four  machines?  A. — No. 
Two  were  for  second-hand  machines. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — I  understand  you  to  say  that  specifications  were  sent  to  all  the  manu- 
facturers ?  A. — All  that  we  knew  of  in  Canada. 

Q. — All  Canadian  ?    A. — All  the  dealers  in  this  Province. 

Q. — Have  you  a  copy  of  the  circular  which  was  sent  out?  A. — I  think 
it  was  simply  a  letter,  giving  the  specifications. 

Q. — Have  you  it  with  you  ?  A. — I  do  not  know  whether  a  copy  was  kept, 
but  I  suppose  I  could  get  them. 

Q. — How  did  you  decide  on  the  Pearce  Arrow  for  $5,259  ?  A. — Because 
it  was  a  machine  which  was  recommended  by  the  engineer  as  most  suitable  for 
the  work. 

Q. — Was  there  any  difference  in  the  class  of  work  it  was  expected  to  do 
from  the  work  that  the  second-hand  machines  would  have  to  do?  A. — It  was 
proposed  to  buy  a  machine  which  would  be  used  by  the  chief  engineer  in  going 
to  Niagara.  He  had  long  distances  to  travel  and  would  require  a  machine  with 
extra  power. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — Is  this  the  same  machine  which,  if  bought  to-day,  would  cost  outside 
buyers  a  good  deal  more  than  you  paid  ?  A.- — It  is  a  high-class  machine.  The 
other  machines  could  be  used  on  shorter  distances  in  the  country,  but  we 
required  two  machines  to  do  the  harder  work. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

'Q. — What  did  your  specifications  call  for?.  A. — The  specifications  were 
in  detail,  and  stipulated  that  the  machines  would  require  to  stand  certain  tests. 

Q. — How  did  you  arrange  the  specifications  for  the  second-hand  auto- 
mobiles ?  A. — They  called  for  certain  tests.  The  man  who  would  run  these 
machines  had  some  experience.  He  was  a  first-class  engineer,  although  I  am 
not  sure  that  he  was  an  experienced  chauffeur.  If  you  give  a  new  machine 
to  a  man  without  any  experience  he  might  ruin  it,  and  so  for  the  work  on  the 
line  we  bought  second-hand  machines. 

Q. — WTere  there  specifications  issued  for  the  second-hand  machines? 
A. — Not  beyond  what  I  have  indicated. 

Q. — Did  you  have  any  communication  with  regard  to  the  second-hand 
machines,  or  did  you  have  any  correspondence  with  the  Automobile  &  Sup- 
ply Co.  ?  A. — I  do  not  know.  The  engineer  was  instructed  to  go  and  find 
second-hand  machines,  examine  and  try,  and  make  recommendations  if  they 
were  found  suitable.  One  was  in  our  service  a  good  many  weeks  before  it  was 
finally  bought. 

Q. — Who  bought  the  second-hand  machines  ?  A. — The  Commission,  upon 
the  recommendation  of  the  engineers. 

Q. — Who  was  the  individual  ?     A. — The  Commission  as  a  whole. 


32  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  1910 


Q. — Do  you  know  anything  about  the  previous  history  of  these  machines  ? 
Who  owned  them  before  you  bought  them  ?  A. — I  do  not  know. 

Q. — They  were  obtained  from  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited, 
but  you  had  no  idea  from  whom  they  secured  them  ?  A. — The  chief  used  one 
before  it  was  bought. 

Q. — Who  is  the  chief?     A. — Mr.  Sothmann. 
Q. — He  had  used  it  before?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Do  you  know  where  he  used  it?     A. — On  the  line. 

Q. — In  the  vicinity  of  Toronto?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — What  machine  was  that?     A. — I  do  not  know. 

Q. — Has  he  other  machines?  A.— We  have  two  Mitchells  now.  The 
Olds  was  burned,  and  as  the  Mitchell  was  giving  excellent  service  we  took  the 
insurance  money  and  bought  another  one  of  that  make. 

Q. — You  do  not  know  who  owned  it  before  Mr.  Sothmann  was  using  it 
(the  Olds)  ?  A.— I  do  not  know. 

Q. — Do  you  know  who  owned  either  of  them  before  you  got  them  ?  A. — I 
do  not  know. 

Q. — How  many  automobiles  are  you  running  now?     A. — Four. 

Q. — Is  there  anything  else  in  the  item  of  $486,893.73,  except  the 
$37,106.27,  under  the  heading  of  miscellaneous  which  you  do  not  expect  to 
get  back  from  the  municipalities?  A. — The  rest  is  chargeable  to  Niagara 
Power  transmission. 

Q. — Just  while  you  are  here,  with  regard  to  the  item  "Consulting  engin- 
eers, $6,406.45  "  under  the  same  heading?  A. — I  do  not  know  the  details  of 
any  of  these  charges. 

Q. — How  many  engineers  have  you  ?     A. — I  cannot  tell  you  offhand. 

Q. — You  have  one  chief  engineer?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — What  is  his  name  ?    A. — P.  W.  Sothmann. 

Q. — What  does  he  get  a  year  ?     A. — $6,000. 

Q. — What  does  he  do  ?    A. — He  is  in  charge  of  the  whole  of  the  work. 

Q. — Who  is  next  to  him?  A. — There  are  three  or  four  men  under  him; 
Mr.  Gabey  and  Mr.  Ackers,  I  suppose,  are  his  principal  assistants. 

Q. — Are  all  engaged  on  a  salary?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — They  devote  all  their  time  to  the  work?     A.— Yes. 

Q. — Can  you  give  us  an  idea  of  the  salaries  they  are  getting?  A. — In 
the  neighbourhood  of  $2,000  to  $2,500. 

Q. — And  expenses  ?     A. — When  they  are  travelling. 

Q- — Has  there  been  any  change  in  the  chief  engineer's  salary  since  he 
joined  the  Commission?  A. — He  was  originally  engaged  for  special  work  in 
connection  with  reporting  on  the  water-powers  of  the  Province,  and  was 
promised  his  present  salary  as  soon  as  we  began  to  build  the  line.  He  started 
at  $3,500  per  year. 

Q. — When  did  he  commence?     A. — He  began  at  $3,500  in  1906.     • 

Q. — Whom  did  he  succeed  ?  A. — He  succeeded  Mr.  Cecil  B.  Smith,  who 
received  $3,000  per  year  and  gave  half  of  his  time  to  the  work.  Then  we 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  33 


engaged  Mr.  Sothmann,  who  received  $3,500  per  year  on  the  understanding 
that  he  was  to  get  $6,000  when  we  commenced  building. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :  We  are  expending  over  $3,000,000  on  this  trans- 
mission line. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — The  salaries  of  these  gentlemen  are  a  direct  charge  upon  the  munici- 
palities ?  A. — All  but  the  time  that  they  spend  upon  general  work. 

Q.— Which  is  included  in  $37,106.27?     A.— Yes. 

Q. — The  item  for  transmission  line  survey  of  $15,665.12,  is  that  included 
in  the  right-of-way  wages  of  survey  ?  A. — There  were  three  survey  parties  out, 
and  sometimes  we  had  four,  and  we  have  one  now. 

Q. — Then  proportion  of  executive  engineering,  $4,868.44,  that  is  charg- 
able  to  the  municipalities  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Transformer  stations?  A. — This  work  is  done  by  contract,  and  we 
advance  a  certain  percentage;  we  hold  back  a  certain  amount  until  the  total 
work  is  completed  and  passed  upon  by  the  inspector. 

Q. — Proportion  of  engineering,  wages  and  expenses,  for  transformer 
stations?  A. — We  have  one  staff  which  do  the  designing  of  the  stations,  and 
their  wages  are  chargeable  on  account  of  each  particular  station.  We  keep 
each  transformer  station  separate,  and  the  capital  invested  is  charged  to  che 
municipality  which  receives  power  from  that  station. 

Q. — Then  you  expect  the  municipalities  to  pay  this  proportion  of  engineer- 
ing wages  and  expenses  ?  -A. — Yes. 

Q. — Then  a  certain  amount  is  charged  in  this  item  of  $37,106.27? 
A. — All  of  the  engineers'  expenses,  which  is  charged  in  that  item  against  public 
works,  is  $669. .9 5.  This  is  for  the  time  of  one  engineer  spent  in  getting  infor- 
mation with  regard  to  the  storage  dam  at  Dog  Lake. 

Q. — Is  that  charge  here  ?     A. — -Yes,  in  miscellaneous. 

Q. — That  was  for  a  report  on  the  situation  at  Dog  Lake  ?  A. — Yes,  and 
it  is  included,  as  you  will  see,  in  the  item  of  $47,106.27. 

Q. — It  is  not  in  connection  with  the  Public  Works  Department  ?  A. — We 
charge  it  up  to  the  Province. 

Q. — Payments  for  easements,  transmission  line,  $139,371.30,  up  to 
October  31,  1909.  You  have  the  particulars  of  these  payments?.  A. — Yes. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :  I  do  not  think  it  is  in  the  public  interest  that  these 
should  be  published  at  the  present  time,  for  this  reason — one  man  gets  so  much, 
and  perhaps  his  neighbour  gets  more.  If  you  publish  that  now  there  are  some 
33  easements  still  to  settle  for.  They  will  say,  so-and-so  got  so  much,  why 
don't  I  get  as  much  as  he  does  ?  It  is  not  in  the  interest  of  the  Province  or 
the  municipalities  to  give  that  just  now. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT  :  There  might  be  some  question  about  publishing  the  informa- 
tion, but  it  seems  to  me  that  it  should  be  given  to  this  Committee. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :  You  can  easily  understand,  while  we  are  buying  the 
right-of-way,  we  must  do  this. 


31  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Hon.  Mr.  BECK  :  That  is  a  matter  of  policy  on  the  part  of  the  Com- 
mission. The  Commission  feel  strongly  that  until  these  difficulties  are  settled, 
information  of  this  kind  cannot  be  made  public.  It  is  not  in  the  interests  of 
the  undertaking.  Judgments  may  be  prejudiced.  These  accounts  will  be  open 
and  accessible  to  all  municipalities  who  are  assuming  any  liability.  There  is 
now  a  committee  of  accountants  appointed  by  the  principal  municipalities  who 
are  assuming  the  liability,  and  these  accountants  can  come  in  and  see  every 
item,  can  criticise  and  investigate.  That  is  what  we  want  them  to  do.  We 
are  anxioius  that  the  charges  against  each  municipality  shall  be  fair,  and  if 
found  fair,  will  be  confirmed  and  adjusted. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATIIESON  :  That  would  simply  be  giving  information  which 
would  be  accessible  to  those  who  are  trying  to  defeat  the  whole  scheme.  The 
Electrical  Development  Company  would  be  glad  to  get  that  information. 

Hon.  Mr.  BECK  :  I  can  give  you  the  names  of  three  men  who  are  devoting 
a  lot  of  time  going  over  the  line  every  week  or  so  endeavouring  to  do  every- 
thing they  can  to  increase  the  cost  of  the  right-of-way.  We  have  given  out 
enough  material  now  to  enable  these  men  to  accomplish  their  work,  and  it  would 
be  a  bad  feature  to  do  anything  to  increase  the  cost  to  the  municipalities. 

Q. — Who  is  purchasing  the  rights-of-way,  and  who  had  charge  of  the 
work?  A. — Mr.  Lobb  had  charge  of  the  work,  and  the  solicitors  in  the 
different  towns  look  after  the  deeds. 

Q. — I  want  to  know  the  system  which  was  followed  and  who  had  charge. 
A. — There  were  a  number  of  right-of-way  buyers,  who  were  under  Mr. 
McCormack. 

Q. — What  were  his  powers?  A. — He  was  appointed  by  the  Commission 
and  was  paid  by  the  day. 

Q. — What  amount  did  he  receive?  A. — He  received  $6  per  day  and 
expenses  when  along  the  line. 

Q. — There  is  nothing  as  to  which  particular  deal  or  easement  he  would 
close?  A. — No,  he  took  up  one  section  and  put  some  of  his  men  in  other 
sections. 

Q. — That  is,  he  divided  sections  among  the  various  other  purchasers? 
A.— Yes. 

Q. — How  many  did  he  have  under  him?  A. — Oh,  one,  two,  three,  four, 
or  sometimes  five. 

Q. — Who  engaged  the  men  he  had  under  him?     A. — The  Commission. 

Q. — Did  he  have  any  power  to  engage  his  men  ?     A. — Not  directly. 

'Q. — What  system  was  adopted  in  engaging  these  men?  A. — We  had  no 
system ;  the  men  had  to  be  suitable,  reliable,  and,  above  all  things,  honest. 

Q. — Was  there  any  guide  given  to  these  men  as  to  the  payments  they 
should  make?  A. — So  much  per  tower,  and  this  would  depend  upon  the  land, 
and  so  much  per  rod  for  the  patrol. 

Q. — How  much  per  tower  ?     A. — From  $20  to  $25. 

Q. — How  much  per  rod  ?     A. — Seven  dollars  per  rod  to  nine  dollars. 

Q. — That  is  all  they  were  supposed  to  pay?     A. — Yes. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  35 


Q. — That  was  the  lowest  claimed  in  some  places?  A. — In  a  number  of 
places  there  was  no  patrol  whatever.  It  would  depend  upon  where  the  towers 
were  placed. 

Q. — Then  your  maximum  was  $25  per  tower  and  $9  per  rod.     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Were  any  instructions  given  to  these  men  as  to  following  an  equitable 
system  among  the  farmers?  A. — Mr.  Lobb  instructed  each  man. 

Q. — Were  the  instructions  given  verbally?    A. — I  am  not  sure. 

Q. — Do  you  know  if  the  Commission  gave  Mr.  Lobb  or  anybody  else  in- 
structions to  issue  definite  orders  to  the  various  purchasers?  A. — I  do  not 
know.  There  were  definite  instructions,  but  I  cannot  say  whether  they  were 
verbal  or  written. 

Q. — Can  you  give  us  a  list  of  the  men  ?     A. — I  can. 

Q. — There  is  an  item  for  travelling  expenses  to  Europe,  of  $2,885.28. 
That  is  charged  against  miscellaneous,  and  therefore  is  paid  by  the  Province  ? 
A. — This  is  charged  to  the  Province. 

Q. — The  whole  of  the  expenses  to  Europe  are  charged  to  the  Province  and 
not  to  the  municipalities  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — WThat  does  that  cover  ?  A. — It  covers  reports  from  different  parties 
with  regard  to  protective  system,  insulators,  etc. 

Q.- — What  countries  did  the  engineers  visit?  A. — They  visited  England, 
Germany,  Belgium  'and  I  think  Austria.  I  am  not  sure  of  all  the  countries 
they  visited. 

Q. — Who  were  the  engineers?  A. — There  were  two  men,  Mr.  Sothmann 
and  one  of  his  assistants. 

Q. — How  long  were  they  away  ?  A. — Well,  I  do  not  know  just  now,  how 
long,  but  Mr.  Mansfeldt  accompanied  him 

Q. — There  is  nothing  definite  arranged  yet  with  regard  to  Mr.  Lobb's 
future  ?  A. — No,  I  suppoes  that  when  the  work  ceases  he  will  cease. 

Q. — That  is,  the  work  of  purchasing  the  right-of-way?  A. — It  is  only 
the  right-of-way  that  he  is  engaged  on  now. 

Q. — Has  the  Commission  considered  the  advisability  of  arranging  with 
him  later  on  for  future  work  at  a  definite  sum  per  month,  or  from  year  to 
year  ?  A. — No. 

The  witness  was  discharged. 


Mr.  T.  W.  GIBSON,  Deputy  Minister  of  Mines,  recalled  and  examined  by 
Mr.  Elliott. 

Mr.  GIBSON  :  The  other  day  I  was  asked  for  information  with  regard  to 
the  exploration  of  the  Gillies  limit  which  I  was  unable  to  give  except  in  a 
general  way,  but  I  have  the  particulars  now. 

Q. — That  is,  from  the  Provincial  Geologist?  A. — Yes.  On  page  162 
of  the  Bureau  of  Mines  report,  issued  in  the  year  1907,  the  result  of  the  in- 
vestigation during  1906  appears  on  pages  eight  and  ten.  There  is  a  general 
resume  given  as  to  what  had  been  done  upon  the  limit  up  to  that  time.  The 


36  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  1910 


fact  that  the  limit  was  being  prospected  at  that  time  was  noted  in  the  report, 
and  also  the  fact  that  a  vein  had  been  found,  and  also  information  was  given 
as  to  the  development  which  had  been  made.  A  shaft  had  been  sunk  and  cross- 
cuts made.  That  covered  only  part  of  the  limit. 

Q. — That  book  has  been  issued  to  the  public  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — What  subsequent  information  was  given  out?  A. — In  the  report  of 
the  Bureau  of  Mines  for  the  following  year,  1908,  at  pages  1.9  and  20,  a  mem- 
orandum is  given  showing  the  result  of  the  work  on  the  provincial  mine  and 
the  limit  generally  up  to  the  end  of  1907.  It  is  not  very  long,  and  if  you  de- 
sire I  can  read  some  extracts.  (Reads)  : 

"When  work  was  commenced  by  the  Bureau  of  Mines  on  the  Gillies  Limit 
in  1906,  there  were  rumors  of  very  rich  silver  finds  having  been  made  during 
the  previous  year  by  prospectors  who  had  gone  on  the  limit  without  permit. 

"All  such  reported  finds  where  any  work  has  been  done  were  examined  by 
trenching,  etc.,  but  no  veins  of  value  were  uncovered.  In  some  cases  pros- 
pectors who  claimed  to  know  of  solid  veins  of  silver  on  the  limit  showred  their 
findings  to  us  on  the  understanding  that  they  would  receive  $150  an  inch  in 
width  for  veins  running  over  500  ounces  in  silver.  All  these  parties  were 
unable  to  show  us  veins  of  any  value,  in  fact  anything  that  was  shown  us  were 
mere  cracks  in  the  rock.  Several  veins  were  found  by  us  in  trenching,  but  the 
most  promising  was  discovered  near  the  southwesterly  boundary  under  four  or 
five  feet  of  earth  on  July  19th,  1906. 

"During  the  year  1906  very  little  actual  mining  work  was  done.  During 
the  months  of  July  to  October,  1906,  about  twenty  men  were  employed  con- 
tinuously, trenching  nearly  18,000  feet.  Several  test  pits  were  put  down  and 
three  small  shafts  were  sunk,  10,  30  and  55  feet  respectively.  In  the  55-foot 
shaft  to  the  west  of  the  railway  45  feet  of  drifting  and  cross-cutting  was  done 
on  the  55-foot  level. 

"In  addition  to  actual  prospecting  the  northern  portion  of  the  limit  was 
surveyed  and  mapped  in  1906,  and  the  main  shaft  on  the  vein  found  adjoining 
the  Nipissing  property  was  begun." 


Mr.  Gibson  produced  also  the  following  statement  in  detail  of  collection 
from  mining  sales  in  Gillies  Limit  for  10  months  ending  31st  October,  190.9, 
exclusive  of  Provincial  Mine. 

Date  of  Sale  1909     Location.  Purchasers.  Amount. 

June  15 A     1 Glidden,  H.  P 

for   Martin,   John $10,250.00 

July   13 A     2 Glidden,   H.   P 2,160.00 

June  15 A     3 Connell,  F.  M 2,450.00 

June  15 A     4 Afackay,  John  (4,500)  on  a/c     1,500.00 

Sept.  13 A     5 Webb,   George  F 7,709.00 

Sept.  13 A     6 Cartel,    Gedrge  E 15,300.00 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  3T 


Purchasers.  Amount.      Date  of  Sale  1909     Location 

Sept.   13 A     7. Flinn,   A.   E 4,506.00 

July   13 A     8 Sommer,  B. 7,447.50 

June  15 A     9 Madden,   S.   D 2,500.00 

July  13 A  10 Waldman,   J.   IT 2,010.00 

June  15 A  11 Bailey,   T 2,509.00 

June  15 A  12 Madden,   S.   D 2,750.00 

July   13 A  13 Madden,  &   D 2,500.00 

Sept.  13 A  14 Martin,   J 4,250.00 

Sept.  13 A  15 Pierca,   A 7,600,00 

Sept.  13 A  16 Legge,  W.  H 3,502.00 

Sept.  13 A  19 Flinn,   A.   E 6,511.00 

July   13 A   20 Simpson,  T.  C 12,250.00 

June  15 A  21 Waldman,   J.   H 5,017.50 

June  IS...' A  22 WaJdman,   J.   H 2,025.00 

July   13 A  23 McKay,  Eobt 10,500.00 

Jdy  13 A   24 Sawyer,   B.  }  in  WS  00 

July   13 A  25 Sawyer,   B.  / L0,375.0( 

Sept.   13 A  26 Pierca,   A 20,600.00 

July   13 A   27 Martel,  G.  E 4,150.00 

July   13 A  28 Budd,  A.  T 4,050.00 

July   13i A  2.9 Budd,   A.    T. 2,100.00 

Sept   13 A   31 Macdonald,   F.   E 2,250.00 

Sept.  13 A  33 Flinn,   A.   E 2,706.00 

June  15 A  34 Budd,  A.  T 2,500.00 

June  15 A  35 Budd,  A.  T 2,500.00 

July   13 A  36 Martel,  G.  E 3,100.00 

July   13 A   37 Guerin,   J.   M 5,000.00 

Sept.   13 A  38 Sawyer,   B 5,011.00 

Sept.  13 A  39 Pierce,   A 9,200.00 

July   13 A  40 McNally,  K  T 4,000.00 

June  15 A  41 Budd,  A.  T 2,500.00 

June  15 A  42 Eoss,  J.  G. 5,100.00 

Sept.  13 ' A  43 Flinn,   A.   E. . 2,706.00 

Sept.   13 A  44 Jackson,   A.   H 2,655.00 

Oct.  14 A  45 Webb,  Geo.  F 210..90 

Oct.  14 A  17 Fleming,   E.    O.  ] 

Oct.  14 A  18 « 

Oct.  14 A  30 «                    11,505.00 

Oct.  14 .A  32 " 

Amount  paid  on  locations  A  6,  A  26  and  A  38,  which  were  re- 
sold, tenderers  having  failed  to  fulfil  the  conditions  of  sale 2,505.80 

$20.9.968.70 


38  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


In  the  following  year,  1909,  particulars  were  given — 

Q. — Just  a  moment.  These  reports  were  published  each  year  previous  to 
any  sale  of  land  on  the  Gillies  limit?  A. — Yes,  sir. 

By  Mr.  McGARRY. 

Q. — The  prospective  purchasers  had  an  opportunity  of  seeing  these  re- 
ports? A. — Yes,  sir. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — I  understood  the  other  day  there  were  verbal  reports,  in  addition  to 
written  reports  ?  A. — Yes,  reports  were  made  by  Mr.  Corkill  and  Prof.  Miller, 
who  had  charge  of  the  mine. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland). 

Q. — What  was  the  nature  of  them?     (A. — They  were  summaries. 

Q. — Did  they  indicate  a  bonanza?     A. — No.     They  were  the  reverse. 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q. — How  much  of  the  limit  was  explored?  A. — At  this  time  the  whole 
of  the  limit  had  not  been  surveyed,  but  it  has  all  been  surveyed  since  and  a 
map  drawn. 

Q. — How  much  has  been  prospected  as  a  mining  proposition?  A.— The 
whole  has  been  prospected,  but  some  parts  much  more  thoroughly  than  the 
remainder. 

Q. — What  portion  has  been  prospected?  A. — The  northern  apex  of  the 
limit,  almost  up  into  the  township  of  Golem  an. 

Q. — What  area  would  that  be  ?  A. — About  seven  or  eight  hundred  acres 
has  been  thoroughly  prospected. 

Q. — Prospected  so  that  you  would  have  a  fair  idea  whether  it  was  a 
mining  proposition  or  not?  A. — Yes. 

Q.' — You  would  not  be  able  to  say  whether  it  was  good  or  bad  ?  A. — No. 
Anyone  who  is  familiar  with  prospecting  in  Cobalt  knows  that  the  rock  is 
covered  thickly,  and  it  is  a  difficult  task  to  prospect  thoroughly  without  getting 
to  bed  rock.  And  to  do  any  trenching  from  the  surface,  one  might  have  to 
go  five,  ten,  fifteen  or  twenty  feet  below  the  surface  of  the  earth. 

Q. — Was  anybody  allowed  on  the  limit  to  prospect  on  their  own  account? 
A.— No. 

Q. — Were  any  regulations  of  the  Department  issued  which  would  prevent 
anyone  going  in?  A. — Yes.  There  was  an  Order-in-Council. 

Q. — Private  parties  were  not  allowed  to  go  on  and  see  what  there  was 
in  the  limit?  A.— No. 

Q. — Do  you  know  of  anybody  who  did  go  on  the  limit?  A. — I  think 
some  parties  did,  notwithstanding  the  prohibition. 

Q- — Did  you  bring  down  the  list  of  sales  ?  A. — Yes,  sir.  I  have  here  a 
statement  giving  in  detail  all  collections  from  the  sale  of  mining  lands  in  the 
Gillies  limit  for  the  ten  months  ending  October  31,  1.909,  exclusive,  which 
includes  the  Provincial  mine.  This  gives  a  list  of  all  the  claims  which  were 
sold,  the  collections  on  account  of  which  appear  in  the  Public  Accounts  for  the 
period  ending  October  31,  1909.  It  gives  the  date  of  sale,  the  number  of  the 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  39 


particular  location,  the  name  of  the  purchaser  and  the  amount  which  was  paid 
for  the  location. 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q. — Have  you  the  other  documents  from  the  Department?  A. — Do  you 
wish  to  see  the  tender  or  the  transfer  ? 

Qj. — The  transfer.  A. — There  is  a  transfer  by  Robert  McKay,  dated 
July  6,  1909,  to  J.  O'Brien  and  A.  J.  Young. 

Q. — Is  there  any  other  transfer  ?  A. — That  is  all.  O'Brien  and  Young 
are  the  patentees. 

Q. — Would  any  sale  from  O'Brien  and  Young  appear  on  your  records? 
A. — ~No,  not  on  our  records.  I  think  McKay  was  acting  as  solicitor  for  these 
gentlemen. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

According  to  the  one  transfer,  O'Brien  and  Young  actually  got  the  limit 
for  $10,500,  McKay  acting  for  them?  A. — That  is  my  understanding. 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q. — Have  you  anything  in  your  Department  to  show  what  O'Brien  sold 
it  for  ?  A. — ~No.  The  other  transfer  would  be  in  the  Local  Master  of  Titles' 
office  at  North  Bay. 

Q. — How  many  acres  of  the  Gillies  Limit  does  this  include?  A. — 
Speaking  roughly,  I  would  say  about  1,600  or  1,700  acres,  for  $209,000. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — These  sales  are  subject  to  a  ten  per  cent,  royalty?  A. — Yes,  a  ten 
per  cent,  royalty  is  attached  to  all  these  sales. 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q. — What  was  the  date  of  the  first  advertisement  in  regard  to  these  sales  ? 
A.— April  22,  1909. 

Q. — Was  the  advertisement  by  the  Department  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Who  had  charge  of  the  advertising  for  the  Department  ?     A. — I  had. 

Q. — When  did  you  receive  instructions  to  advertise  these  ?  A. — It  would 
be  shortly  before  that  date. 

Q.' — You  receive  your  instructions  from  the  Minister?     A. — Yes,  sir. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — As  a  matter  of  fact,  it  was  considered  in  Council.  A. — The  date  of 
the  Order-in-Council  is  April  22. 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q- — This  advertisement  gave  what  time  for  the  sale  ?     A. — Until  June  15. 

Q. — Where  was  the  advertisement  published?  A. — In  a  considerable 
number  of  newspapers.  We  also  had  a  printed  circular  issued  by  the  Depart- 
ment and  sent  about. 

Q- — What  newspapers  ?     A. — I  cannot  give  you  a  list  now. 

Q. — Can  you  furnish  a  list?     A. — Yes. 

By  the  CHAIRMAN. 

Q- — You  have  a  circular  which  you  sent  out  to  anybody  applying  for  it? 
A. — Yes. 


40  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q. — The  Session  ended  on  April  13,  190,9.  It  would  therefore  be  nine 
days  after  the  close  of  the  Session  that  you  sent  out  the  advertisements? 
A. — Yes.  We  decided  then  to  advertise,  and  the  copies  were  sent  out  within 
a  few  days. 

By  Mr.  MCGARRY. 

Q. — That  was  after  you  were  instructed  to  advertise  ?  A. — My  instruc- 
tions were  received,  no  doubt,  immediately  after  the  Order-in-Council  was 
passed. 

Q. — There  was  no  information  given  out  as  to  the  change  in  policy  con- 
templated until  April  22  ?  A. — I  do  not  know  anything  about  the  policy  of 
the  Government.  I  am  not  aware  of  any. 

Q. — You  are  not  aware  of  any  information  given  out  to  the  public  or 
anybody  as  to  the  change  in  the  policy  of  the  Government?  A. — I  could  not 
give  any  information,  as  I  knew  nothing  whatever  about  the  questions  of 
policy. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

;Q. — What  is  the  area  of  the  Gillies  Limit?     A. — 64,000  acres. 

Q. — And  you  have  sold  how  much?     A. — About  1,600  acres,  I  think. 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL.    . 

Q. — What  information  have  you  that  the  remaining  lands  in  the  Gillies 
Limit  are  of  no  value  as  a  mining  proposition  ? 

Mr.  CHAIRMAN:  Is  it  right  to  give  that  information?  Supposing  that 
the  Government  decided  to  put  up  more  lands  for  sale,  the  answer  to  that  ques- 
tion might  affect  the  sale. 

WITNESS  :  We  prepared  a  large  map  showing  all  the  veins  which  were 
found — every  vein  which  had  been  discovered  up  to  that  time. 

Q. — Have  you  any  other  map  showing  the  veins  which  have  not  been  sold  ? 
(Witness  produced  the  map.) 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  (pointing). 

Q- — These  different  names  are  mines?     A. — Yes,  or  mining  locations. 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q. — Do  you  know  anything  as  to  the  extent  of  these  veins  ?  Of  the  value 
oFThem  from  the  reports  received  ?  A. — These  veins  would  not  be  considered 
as  bonanzas. 

Q- — What  do  these  different  colours  mean?  A. — Green  is  Keewatin 
rock,  salmon  is  diabase,  and  the  brown  refers  to  conglomerate. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q.— There  is  not  much  mineral  in  Keewatin?  A. — It  is  not  considered 
the  most  favourable  formation  for  veins,  although  there  have  been  some  very 
good  veins  found  in  Keewatin.  I  would  not  wish  to  leave  the  impression  with 
the  Committee  that  the  whole  of  the  Gillies  Limit  has  been  closely  pros- 
pected. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1. 


By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q. — There  was  a  reduction  in  ore  royalties  recently.  On  what  mines  does 
it  apply  ?  How  many  mines  have  had  their  royalties  reduced  ?  A. — I  cannot 
tell  as  to  just  what  mines  on  which  the  royalties  have  been  reduced  or  read- 
justed. The  T.  &  !N".  0.  receives  royalties  from  a  number  of  mines,  and  on 
some  of  these  a  readjustment  has  been  made. 

Q. — What  reduction  was  made  to  the  Chambers-Ferland  ?  A. — Twenty- 
five  per  cent,  of  the  value  of  the  ore  at  the  mouth  of  the  mine  was  formerly 
payable  to  the  Government;  by  the  new  arrangement  25  per  cent,  of  the  net 
profits,  computed  on  the  basis  of  the  Supplementary  Revenue  Act  of  1907. 
The  Chambers-Ferland  lands  were  bought  from  M.  J.  O'Brien. 

Q. — These  are  part  of  the  lands  upon  which  the  Government  set  a  royalty 
of  25  per  cent.  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — The  Chainbers-Ferland  bought  from  the  Government  before  O'Brien 
made  any  claim?  A.— I  do  not  know,  but  they  were  all  subject  to  the  agree- 
ment. 

Q. — For  part  of  the  lands  which  the  Government  settled  with  O'Brien, 
O'Brien  was  to  pay  a  royalty  of  25  per  cent.  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — By  what  amount  did  the  Department  reduce  their  royalty  and  not 
reduce  the  royalty  on  the  rest  of  them?  A. — So  far  as  these  mines  are  con- 
cerned, it  was  a  matter  for  the  consideration  of  the  Government,  and  it  was 
provided  in  the  agreement  with  O'Brien  that  if  the  mine  could  not  be  worked 
with  a  profit  they  would  no  longer  be  obliged  to  work  it.  Representations  were 
made  by  the  Chambers-Ferland  Co.  that  they  had  no  profit,  and  would  be 
unable  to  continue  operations  unless  the  matter  of  royalty  was  re-adjusted. 

By  Mr.  Me  CART. 

Q. — How  does  that  affect  Chambers-Ferland?  A. — The  royalty  was 
25  per  cent,  at  the  mouth  of  the  mine,  but  now  it  is  25  per  cent,  on  the  net 
profits. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — Twenty-five  per  cent,  at  the  mouth  of  the  mine  may  not  give  a  profit. 
If  they  were  making  a  profit  we  would  benefit  by  that? 

Mr.  GIBSON  :  That  is  hard  to  calculate  unless  you  know  the  quality  of  the 
ore.  If  the  ore  is  rich,  25  per  cent,  of  the  net  profits  would  give  us  perhaps 
almost  as  much  as  25  per  cent,  of  the  value  of  the  ore  at  the  pit  mouth.  But. 
if  the  ore  is  lean  and  low  grade,  25  per  cent,  of  the  value  of  the  ore  might 
entirely  absorb  the  profit,  and  allow  nothing  at  all  for  the  owners  of  the  mines. 
They  would  not  go  on  at  all  when  they  are  not  getting  anything. 

Q. — What  was  the  reduction  the  Chambers-Ferland  people  asked  for? 
A. — I  do  not  know  exactly  what  they  asked  for. 

Mr.  McDouGAL:  I  would  like  to  ask  that  M.  J.  O'Brien  be  brought 
before  the  Committee  to  give  evidence. 

Mr.  MCGARRY  :  He  is  in  Mexico  at  present. 

Mr.  McDouGAL:   Then  I  will  ask  for  his  partner.      (Motion  made.) 

The  witness  was  discharged  and  the  Committee  adjourned. 


42  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


COMMITTEE  ROOM. 

March  3rd,  1910. 

W.  S.  Smith,  of  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Company,  called,  sworn  and 
examined. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Mr.  Smith,  you  are  the  representative  of  the  Automobile  &  Supply 
Company,  who  sold  certain  cars  to  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission? 
A. — I  sold  certain  cars  to  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission,  yes. 

Q. — What  car  did  you  sell  ?  A. — I  sold  them  three  second-hand  cars  and 
a  new  one. 

Q. — What  were  the  three  second-hand  cars?  A. — One  was  an  Olds- 
mobile. 

Q. — WThat  number?     A. — I  do  not  know. 

Q. — What  kind  of  a  car  ?  What  colour,  etc.  ?  A. — I  do  not  know  that 
I  could  tell  you  that.  As  close  as  I  can  remember  it  was  a  dark  car,  that  is, 
it  had  a  dark  body. 

Q. — There  is  a  maker's  number  on  each  car?  A. — There  is  when  they 
first  come,  but  they  don't  always  remain  there. 

Q. — Where  are  they  placed?  A. — The  numbers  are  different  on  each 
machine.  The  various  manufacturers  use  different  places.  Machines  manu- 
factured under  the  Seldon  patent  are  put  on  the  engine,  and  others  are  put  in 
different  places. 

Q. — Is  it  a  fact  that  each  automobile  has  a  different  number?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — That  is  in  addition  to  its  registered  number?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Did  you  sell  more  than  one  Olds  to  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Com- 
mission ?  A. — Only  one. 

Q- — Who  did  you  communicate  with  to  sell  that?  A. — Principally  with 
Mr.  Sothmann  and  Mr.  Gaby. 

Q- — Who  is  Mr.  Gaby?  A. — One  of  the  employees  whom  I  saw  about 
these  machines. 

Q. — Can  you  tell  me  when  the  examinations  of  these  machines  were  made  ? 
A. — I  cannot. 

Q. — Were  you  present?    iA. — I  was. 

Q- — You  showed  these  machines  on  behalf  of  the  company?  A. — I  did 
and  I  didn't.  I  had  a  salesman  at  the  time  who  took  them  out  and  demon- 
strated the  machine. 

Q. — What  was  the  price  for  this  Olds?     A. — About  $1,600. 

Q. — Cash  ?  A. — Yes,  it  was  paid  for  in  cash  some  time  after  the  machine 
was  delivered. 

Q. — How  was  it  paid  ?     A. — By  a  cheque. 

Q. — Have  you  the  books  showing  the  transfer  ?  A. — The  charging  of  the 
automobile  to  the  Commission? 

Q. — What  books  do  you  keep  ?  A. — A  set  of  books,  as  other  companies 
do. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  43 


Q. — Can  you  tell  me  the  date  of  that  sale  ?     A. — No. 

Q.— The  books  will  show  that  ?    A.— Yes. 

Q. — I  suppose  you  keep  a  day  book,  do  you?  What  books  do  you  use? 
A. — We  use  a  loose-leaf  ledger  system. 

Q. — Now  what  kind  of  an  entry  would  you  make  in  an  ordinary  sale  of 
this  kind?  A. — One  Oldsmobile,  second-hand,  so  much  money,  with  the  pur- 
chaser's name. 

Q.' — Will  you  tell  me  who  you  got  this  machine  from?  A. — I  do  not 
know  that  this  is  a  proper  question  to  ask  me.  I  am  simply  an  employee  of 
the  company. 

Q. — Can  you  tell  us,  in  the  first  place  ?  A. — I  might  be  able  to  tell  you, 
but  I  will  appeal  to  the  Chair  and  ask  whether  this  is  a  proper  question  to  ask 
where  we  buy  our  goods. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT:  I  submit,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  in  dealing  with  second- 
hand goods  we  should  have  the  information  where  they  got  this  machine.  If 
the  right  answer  is  not  forthcoming,  I  have  another  way  of  getting  it. 

Mr.  McGARRY  :  Mr.  Chairman,  I  do  not  think  we  can  compel  the  witness 
to  answer  that  question  if  he  takes  the  position  that  he  is  an  employee  of  the 
company. 

Mr.  MUSGEOVE:  Do  you  know  where  you  got  it  from?  A. — I  do  not 
know  that  I  can  tell  you  that. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT  :  Do  you  object  to  give  this  information  ?  A. — Yes,  with- 
out consulting  the  company. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT:  I  will  ask  your  ruling,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  without  con- 
sulting the  company  he  should  answer  the  question.  I  wish  to  find  out  where 
they  got  this  machine. 

Mr.  McDouGAL:  Mr.  Chairman,  before  you  give  your  decision,  I  would 
like  to  point  out  that  my  hon.  friend  is  right.  This  is  a  Parliamentary  inves- 
tigation, and  may  compel  a  witness  to  answer  anything  under  the  sun.  We 
make  the  law  of  evidence.  Here  is  an  article  which  was  sold  to  the  Govern- 
ment, and  we  would  like  to  trace  the  article  to  the  original,  to  the  original  ven- 
dor. We  have  a  perfect  right  to  do  so.  If  the  Government  buys  an  article  this 
Committee  has  a  right  to  know  what  was  the  original  selling  price,  and  who 
are  the  original  vendors  of  it,  and  how  old  it  was  at  the  time  it  was  sold.  I 
submit  it  is  necessary  to  know  the  former  vendor  of  the  machine.  The  witness 
might  be  asked  the  price  that  he  paid  for  other  machines. 

The  CHAIRMAN"  :    There  are  no  doubt  other  ways  of  getting  at  it. 

Mr.  McDouGAL :  But  the  witness  has  no  privilege  before  this  Committee. 
Even  in  a  law  court  he  would  be  compelled  to  disclose  this  evidence.  We  have 
full  jurisdiction  of  any  legal  tribunal,  and  other  powers  in  addition. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT  :  Before  making  a  ruling,  there  is  another  question  I  would 
like  to  ask  the  witness,  which  might  do  away  with  the  question  at  hand.  Will 
you  pledge  your  oath  that  this  machine  was  owned  by  the  Automobile  &  Sup- 
ply Company?  A. — I  will. 


44  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  1910 


Q. — And  the  transfer  passed  through  your  books?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — How  long  did  they  own  it?     A. — I  cannot  say. 

Q. — Would  you  say  they  owned  it  for  a  week?  A. — I  would  say  the 
machines  were  there  for  a  week.  It  was  more  likely  three  weeks  though.  If 
you  will  allow  me  to  explain,  you  will  find  in  our  warehouse  so  many  machines 
stored  on  some  of  the  floors  that  there  is  not  room  enough  to  turn  around,  and 
it  would  take  a  pretty  good  memory  to  carry  all  these  in  your  head. 

Q. — Never  mind  the  memory.  Can  you  tell  me  what  I  want  from  the 
records  in  your  books?  A. — I  have  no  books  with  me. 

Q. — This  transfer  no  doubt  will  show  the  price  paid,  whom  it  was  paid  to, 
how  long  before  the  sale  to  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission  ?  A. — Yes, 
a  price  was  paid  for  the  machine,  yet  I  submit  this  evidence  you  are  not 
entitled  to  have. 

The  CHAIRMAN  :  As  I  said,  the  Committee  will  be  glad  to  get  any  evidence 
possible,  and  I  do  not  want  to  be  considered  as  standing  in  the  way  of  what 
we  are  here  to  do.  The  witness,  if  he  chose  to  give  the  information,  we  would 
be  glad  to  receive  it,  but  if  he  takes  the  position  that  the  information  is  con- 
fidential, and  that  there  is  a  confidential  relationship  between  him  and  his 
employer,  I  think  the  Committee  should  respect  that,  as  there  are  other  ways  of 
getting  the  information. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT:  Would  you  issue  an  order  for  the  employer  to  come  here 
and  answer? 

Mr.  McDouGAL :  My  contention  is  this.  We  have  a  perfect  right  to  that 
evidence^  Any  employee  who  came  here  could  set  up  the  same  argument.  We 
could  ask  him  if  he  was  an  employee  of  that  company,  and  he  could  say  that 
I  cannot  tell  you  anything. 

The  CHAIRMAN:  You  have  your  remedy.  You  can  appeal  against  the 
ruling  of  the  Chair. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT:  We  are  here  investigating  a  public  account.  We  are  not 
making  a  charge  that  anything  improper  was  done,  and  I  submit  in  all  fair- 
ness to  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission  that  we  should  not  leave  our- 
selves open  to  that  Commission  being  subjected  to  grave  suspicion  of  some- 
thing being  wrong,  by  this  Committee  protecting  a  witness  against  answering 
questions,  from  answering  a  question  which  will  enable  us  to  get  at  the  exact 
transactions  that  have  taken  place  in  regard  to  these  different  machines.  I 
submit,  in  fairness  to  the  Commission,  that  the  question  should  be  answered, 
and  the  investigation  be  as  thorough  as  possible. 

The  CHAIRMAN:  I  know  the  law  about  witnesses  answering  and  giving 
information,  but  when  he  takes  the  stand  he  does  my  ruling  is  that  he  should 
be  protected,  and  you  can  get  the  information  in  other  ways. 

MR.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.)  :  The  position  the  Chairman  takes  is  this 
This  witness  is  here,  and  says  on  account  of  his  being  an  employee  he  does  not 
feel  disposed  to  give  information  that  his  employer  might  object  to  without 
receiving  his  consent.  The  Chairman  thinks  he  ought  to  be  protected,  because 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  45 


we  have  the  power  to  order  his  employer  here,  and  his  employer  cannot  get 
away  from  any  protection  that  the  present  witness  may  secure. 

Mr.  ELLIOTT:  There  is  no  use  going  further  with  this  witness.  Will 
you  make  an  order,  Mr.  Chairman,  directing  his  employer  to  attend,  and  we 
will  leave  this  witness  for  the  present. 

Mr.  McGrARRY:  Mr.  McDougal  takes  an  unusual  course.  We  can  compel 
the  witness  to  answer,  but  every  business  man  knows  that  it  is  not  fair  to 
compel  a  witness  to  answer  certain  questions  which  he  asks  us  not  to  press. 
If  you  cannot  get  that  particular  information  otherwise,  then  we  might  use 
the  powers  which  my  learned  friend  indicated  this  morning. 

The  CHAIRMAN  :  I  do  not  propose,  so  long  as  I  am  Chairman,  to  limit 
the  scope  of  this  inquiry. 

Upon  the  request  of  Mr.  McDougal  the  Chairman  submitted  the  following 
question  to  the  Committee: — "Shall  the  Chair  be  sustained  in  its  ruling,  that 
this  witness  shall  not  be  compelled  to  answer  a  question,  on  the  ground  that 
he  could  not  do  so  without  the  consent  of  his  employer?" 

The  chair  was  sustained  by  a  vote  of  12  to  5. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q.  — Mr.  Smith,  what  other  machines  did  you  sell  besides  the  Olds,  "No. 
253  ?  A. — We  sold  two  Mitchells  and  a  Pearce  Arrow. 

Q. — Were   they   both   second-hand  Mitchells?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — When  were  they  sold  ?  A. — One  was  sold  at  the  same  time  as  the 
Olds,  and  the  other  was  sold  not  long  ago. 

Q. — Now  the  one  that  was  sold  at  the  same  time  as  the  Olds  machine, 
can  you  tell  us  at  which  price  it  was  sold  ?  A. — About  $1,600. 

Q. — Both  at  the  same  price  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — How  old  a  machine  was  that?  A. — I  could  not  answer  that  ques- 
tion definitely. 

Q. — Do  you  feel,  before  consulting  your  employers,  like  giving  us  any 
information  as  to  where  that  machine  came  from?  A. — As  an  employee 
of  the  company  I  would  not  care  to  answer  that  question. 

Q. — Do  you  know  what  became  of  it  ?     A. — In  what  way  ? 

Q. — What  became  of  the  Mitchell  which  was  sold  at  the  time?  A. — It 
was  sold  to  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission. 

Q. — Do  you  know  anything  about  what  happened  later?  A. — I  believe 
the  machine  is  in  constant  use.  Mr.  Scott,  who  used  the  machine,  came  in  to 
me  a  few  days  ago.  He  said  he  was  not  familiar  with  the  elaborately-built 
machines,  and  drove  a  Mitchell  car,  and  said  that  he  wanted  me,  if  possible, 
to  get  another  car  to  use  on  a  transmission  line  that  he  is  putting  up  in  Winni- 
peg. I  have  written  to  the  Mitchell  Company  to  ascertain  if  they  could  pro- 
duce a  second-hand  car  of  that  kind. 

Q. — You  sold  four  machines  to  the  Commission  after  the  month  of  April, 
1909.  About  what  time  were  these  machines  sold?  A. — I  have  spoken  about, 
three  machines  which  we  sold;  one  was  a  roadster. 


46  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Q. — There  were  two  new  machines  and  two  second-hand  ?  A. — At  first 
there  were  two  second-hand  machines  and  one  new  one,  and  then  a  second-hand 
Mitchell  was  bought  in  the  fall  of  1909. 

Q. — Do  you  know  whether  it  was  sold  to  replace  any  machine  that  had 
given  out?  A. — I  do  not  know  anything  about  that.  I  understand  the  Olds 
was  burned  up.  That  is  all  I  know. 

The  witness  was  discharged,  and  the  Committee  adjourned. 


COMMITTEE  ROOM. 

March  4,   1910. 

The  CHAIKMAN  :  Before  taking  up  the  day's  proceedings  I  desire  to  refer 
to  a  ruling  I  made  yesterday,  to  which  exception  was  taken  by  Mr.  McDougal 
and  some  other  members  of  the  Committee,  but  which  was  sustained  by  the 
Committee  on  division. 

You  will  remember  that  Mr.  Smith  was  asked  where  he  purchased  the 
automobiles  which  he  afterwards  sold  to  the  Hydro-Electric  Commission.  He 
asked  to  be  relieved  from  answering  this  question  on  the  ground  that  it  was 
confidential  information,  which  really  belonged  to  his  employers,  and  which 
he  felt  he  had  no  right  to  disclose  without  permission  from  them.  He  said 
that  he  would  consult  his  employers,  and  that  if  they  did  not  object  he  was 
prepared  to  give  us  all  the  information  he  had. 

It  is  quite  true  that  the  Committee  may  have  the  right  to  insist  upon  an 
answer  to  such  a  question.  As  I  said  yesterday,  while  I  preside  over  this 
Committee  I  intend  to  see  that  the  widest  latitude  is  given  to  examinations, 
and  that  the  fullest  information  possible  is  secured  from  every  source,  but  I 
do  not  think  that  the  Committee  should  exercise  its  right  in  an  arbitrary 
manner.  When  Mr.  Smith  took  the  position  that  the  answer  to  the  question 
would  disclose  information  that  legally  belongs  to  his  employers  and  might 
jeopardise  his  position  with  the  company,  I  felt  that  it  would  only  be  fair  to 
him  that  he  should  not  be  pressed  to  answer  it,  at  any  rate  until  he  could  con- 
sult with  his  manager;  moreover,  such  information  could  be  got  in  another  way. 

Mr.  McDougal,  in  taking  exception  to  my  ruling,  stated  that  it  was  most 
ridiculous  and  absurd.  I  have  taken  the  trouble  to  look  into  the  matter,  and 
I  now  want  to  inform  the  Committee  that  there  is  a  precedent  for  carrying, 
the  ruling  much  further  than  I  did. 

If  honourable  members  will  refer  to  the  Journals  of  the  House  for  1903 
and  read  the  evidence  before  the  Public  Accounts  Committee  with  reference 
to  what  is  known  as  the  Shannon  timber  deal,  they  will  find  there  is  ample 
precedent  for  my  action.  A  Mr.  MacDermott,  of  South  River,  was  being 
examined,  and  was  asked  the  price  he  paid  one  Shannon  for  a  timber  berth, 
which  Shannon .  had  secured  from  the  Crown  Lands  Department.  Hon. 
George  P.  Graham,  now  Minister  of  Railways  and  Canals  at  Ottawa,  was 
then  chairman  of  the  Public  Accounts  Committee,  and  his  ruling  was  that  the 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1. 


transaction  between  Shannon  and  MacDermott  was  a  private  transaction,  with 
which  the  committee  had  nothing  to  do,  and  was  outside  the  scope  of  the  in- 
vestigation, and  he  held  that  the  witness  need  not  answer  the  question. 

I  make  this  statement  for  the  benefit  of  the  committee  and  of  the  press, 
as  some  of  the  press  have  criticized  and  commented  adversely  upon  my  ruling 
of  yesterday,  I  am  very  glad  to  be  able  to  state  that  we  have  Mr.  Grant  here 
to-day.  He  is  the  manager  of  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  and  will  give 
us  what  information  he  can.  He  says  he  knows  very  little  about  the  trans- 
action, as  it  was  handled  entirely  by  Mr.  Smith.  Further  he  says  that  Mr. 
Smith  is  at  liberty  to  give  the  committee  any  information  he  can,  and  that  the 
entire  books  of  the  company  are  open  for  inspection  and  examination.  I  pro- 
pose, therefore,  that  the  committee  shall  thoroughly  examine  this  whole  trans- 
action in  every  letail,  and  that  the  fullest  liberty  shall  be  given  to  everybody 
consistent  with  the  proper  conduct  of  the  committee. 

Mr.  W.  C.  GRANT,  manager  of  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  called, 
sworn  and  examined. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — You  are  the  manager  of  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co?     A. —  Yes. 

Q. — Who  is  president  of  the  company?     A. — George  H.  Gooderham. 

Q. — He  is  a  member  of  this  House  ?     A. — As  far  as  I  know. 

'Q. — Do  you  know  anything  about  the  sale  of  two  second-hand  automo- 
biles to  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Cmmission?  A. — I  know  very  little  about 
it. 

Q. — Do  you  know  anything  about  it?  A. — The  only  thing  I  know  about 
it  is  that  I  saw  the  cars  on  the  floor  on  the  garage. 

Q. — When  ?  A. — I  cannot  remember  definitely  the  dates.  It  was  some 
time  ago,  but  just  when  I  could  not  say. 

Q. — How  long  were  they  there  before  the  sale  to  the  Commission  ?  A. — 
They  were  there  probably  two,  three,  or  four  weeks. 

Q.— Both  cars?     A.— Both  cars. 

Q. — Can  you  tell  us  who  conducted  the  purchase  on  behalf  of  the  Com- 
mission ?  A. — No,  I  cannot  tell  you  that. 

Q. — Who  conducted  the  sale  on  behalf  of  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.  ? 
A. — Mr.  Smith. 

Q. — Will  you  tell  us  the  system  of  books  you  keep?  A. — The  Copeland- 
Cihatterson  loose  leaf  system. 

Q. — If  you  buy  an  automobile  what  is  the  first  entry  made  ?  A. — They 
are  generally  charged  up  on  a  slip.  It  goes  to  the  office  and  is  charged  in  the 
books. 

Q. — Have  you  your  books  with  you  ?    A. — Yes.     (Books  produced.) 
Q. — What  becomes  of  the  slip  on  which  you  enter  the  sale  or  purchase 
of  any  automobile,  say,  for  instance,  a  second-hand  machine  ?     A. — In  nine 
out  of  ten  cases  there  is  no  slip  made  for  a  second-hand  machine.     We  simply 
credit  the  same  in  the  books. 

Q. — The  man  from  whom  you  buy?     A. — Yes. 


48  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Q. — Do  you  enter  a  separate  account  for  him  ?  Does  his  name  appear  on 
the  books  ?  A. — If  a  man  was  to  buy  a  car  from  us  we  would  naturally  extend 
the  item  to  his  account. 

Q. — No,  no.  You  are  buying  a  car  from  a  man.  A  man  comes  along  with 
a  second-hand  car.  What  entries  are  made,  and  the  order  in  which  they  are 
made  ?  A. — Mr.  Smith  can  answer  that  better  than  I  can.  He  looks  after  that 
and  is  in  full  charge  of  the  selling  end. 

Q. — Give  us,  to  the  best  of  your  knowledge,  what  occurs.  A. — I  have  no 
time  to  look  after  that,  I  do  not  know  anything  about  it. 

Q. — Do  you  look  after  the  buying?     A. — No. 

Q. — Do  you  look  after  the  books  at  all  ?    A. — No. 

Q. — Would  you  be  able  to  take  the  books  and  follow  the  entries  ?  A. — 
Well,  those  who  conducted  the  business  might  tell  you  where  they  got  any  cars. 

Q. — How  would  you  do  it?  A. — I  would  look  up  the  number  of  their 
order. 

Q. — From  this  book  tell  me  the  first  entry  relating  to  Olds  number  253. 
That  is  the  first  book  there  would  be  an  entry  in?  A. — There  were  two  cars 
bought  for  $3,250. 

The  Chairman — That  is  the  price  of  the  two  cars?     A. — Yes. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Does  that  mean  they  were  both  bought  together,  through  the  same 
person  ?  A. — Yefls. 

.  Q. — W7ho  was  the  person  from  whom  they  were  bought  ?     A. — Mr.  Smith 
will  tell  you  that. 

Q. — Can  you  tell  from  your  books  ?     A. — No. 

Q. — Have  you  any  books  which  will  show  us  from  whom  these  cars  were 
purchased  ?  A. — Not  that  I  know. 

Q. — Then  do  I  understand  you  to  say  that  from  your  books  you  cannot 
trace  where  these  cars  came  from?  A. — No. 

Q. — -Do  you  know  anything  about  them  ?     A.' — No. 

Q. — You  have  no  means  at  all  of  stating  where  these  cars  came  from? 
A. — Only  from  memory. 

Q. — Have  you  any  memory  in  regard  to  these  cars?  A. — I  had  nothing 
to  do  with  these  cars  nor  the  purchasing  of  them. 

Q. — Then  you  remember  nothing?     A. — No. 

Q. — And  your  books  do  not  help  you  a  bit  ?     A.- — No. 

Q. — Now  supposing  you  bought  these  cars  from  John  Jones,  does  John 
Jones'  name  appear  in  your  books  at  any  place?  A. — No. 

Q. — You  have  no  ledger  account  with  John  Jones  ?     A. — No. 

Q. — Do  you  know  whether  he  was  paid  or  not?  A. — The  check  book 
shows  who  paid  for  the  cars. 

Q. — Have  you  the  cheque  book  with  you  in  regard  to  these  two  cars  ?  A.— 
Yes.  (Cheque  book  produced.) 

Q.' — This  is  the  entry  with  regard  to  both  cars,  cheque  number  A  13,- 
885,  May  18,  1900,  P.  W.  Sothmann,  $3,250?— 115?  A.— Yes. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  49 


Q. — What  does  115  refer  to?  A. — It  is  most  likely  a  ledger  number.  The 
bookkeeper  could  explain  that.  It  is  something  I  know  nothing  about. 

Q. — There  is  an  entry  here,  May,  18,  by  cash,  folio  115,  $3,250.  That  is 
the  entry  relating  to  these  machines  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Where  is  folio  115  ?  A. — That  is  something  I  do  not  know  anything 
about. 

Q. — There  is  no  mark  115  on  this  ?  A. — I  can  get  it  and  explain  it  if  you 

wish. 

Q. — Have  you  the  book  here  ?    A. — No,  I  will  have  to  look  it  up. 

Q. — You  received  your  subpoena  calling  for  all  books  and  entries  covering 
these  machines  ?  A. — Yes. 

The  CHAIRMAN  :  We  will  get  anybody  you  want. 

That  is  all  the  information  you  can  give  ?  A. — Well  I  have  seen  the  chief 
two  or  three  times. 

Q. — Who  is  he  ?  A. — He  is  a  member  of  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Com- 
mission. 

Q. — And  he  is  the  man  from  whom  you  purchased  these  two  machines 
which  you  afterwards  sold  back  to  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission? 
A.— Yes. 

By  Mr.  Me  GABBY. 

Q. — You  saw  these  two  machines?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Have  you  any  idea  as  to  their  value  at  that  time  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — What  would  you  say  as  to  the  value  when  you  sold  them  ?  A. — They 
were  good  value. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — You  would  not  give  anything  else  but  good  value  ?  A. — If  they  were 
not  good  value  I  would  not  have  sold  them  at  that  price. 

Q. — What  did  you  pay  Mr.  Sothmann  ?  A. — The  amount  which  appears 
•on  the  cheque. 

Q. — Did  you  pay  any  commission  ?    A. — "No. 

Q. — How  long  did  you  keep  those  machines?  A.- — We  had  them  for  two 
or  three  weeks. 

Q. — Did  you  do  any  repairs  during  that  time?     A. — "No. 

Q. — And  showed  them  to  the  man  who  was  selling  them  to  you?  And 
who  was  also  the  agent  of  the  buyer  ?  A. — Yes,  we  demonstrated  the  machines. 

Q. — The  order  for  the  machines  would  state  whom  he  represented  ?  A. — 
Yes. 

Q. — That  is,   who  Mr.    Sothmann  represented  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — And  you  showed  him  points  about  his  own  machine?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — You  did  all  this  free  ?  A. — We  did  that  for  this  reason,  we  expected 
to  sell  a  Pearce  Arrow  car,  and  we  wanted  to  get  an  opportunity  to  show  that 
'the  car  would  do  the  work. 

Q. — And  you  did  all  this  free  to  get  the  sale  of  the  Pearce  car  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — Where  is  the  entry  relating  to  the  Pearce  car  ?  A. — Page  29  $5  - 
•307.47. 


50  APPEXDIX  Xo.  1. 


Q. — That  was  sold  on  May  31  ?  A. — Yes.. 

<J. Had  you  any  correspondence  with  them  before  this  sale?  A. — No. 

'  Q. The  transaction  for  the  $3,250  was  completed  eleven  days  before  the 

{transaction  of  $5,307.47  ?  A.— According  to  the  books,  that  is  about  the  time. 

Q. — Can  you  tell  us  whether  the  deals  were  completed  at  the  same  time? 
!A. — X"o,  I  cannot. 

Q. — Is  this  $5,307  the  price  at  which  you  would  sell  other  Pearce  Arrow 
cars  ?  A. — vN"o,  it  is  a  price  to  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission. 

Q. — Had  you  sold  any  other  Pearce  Arrow  cars?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — At  what  prices  ?  A. — After  I  look  through  the  book  I  could  probably 
see  some. 

Witness  was  discharged. 


Mr.  W.  S.  SMITH,  recalled,  and  examined. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Mr.  Smith,  you  are  the  purchaser  and  salesman  of  the  Automobile 
&  Supply  Co.  of  which  Mr.  Grant  is  manager  ?  A. — In  order  that  the  com- 
mittee may  understand  the  whole  circumstance,  at  one  time  I  organized  the 
^company,  and  for  some  three  years  was  manager.  Then  I  left  the  company 
rand  Mr.  Grant  was  put  in  as  manager.  I  was  away  four  months,  and  then 
went  back  to  them  on  the  understanding  that  I  was  not  to  take  the  responsi- 
bility of  the  management,  and  I  might  say  that  Mr.  Grant  knew  nothing  about 
the  deal.  He  is  responsible  only  for  the  finances  of  the  company.  He  signs  the 
cheques,  but  so  far  as  the  details  of  the  office  are  concerned  Mr.  Grant  knows 
very  little  about  this  transaction. 

Q. — Tell  us  what  you  know  about  it.  A. — What  do  you  want  to  know  ? 

Q. — I  want  to  know  all  thiat  transpired  in  regard  to  the  purchase  of  these 
machines.  A. — If  you  ask  the  questions  I  will  endeavor  to  answer  them. 

Q. — Who  did  you  buy  the  Oldsmobile,  number  253,  from?  A. — P.  W. 
Sothmann. 

Q. — That  is  the  engineer  of  the  Hydro-Electric  Commission?     A. — Yes. 

Q.— What  price  did  you  pay  for  the  Olds?    A.— $1,625. 

Q. — Do  you  remember  what  price  you  said  yesterday  morning?  A.' — 
About  $1,600. 

Q. — So  that  was  not  correct?    A. — I  said  about  $1,600. 

Q. — And  exactly  the  same  price  for  the  other  ?     A. — I  believe  it  was. 

Q. — Did  you  purchase  both  of  these  cars  at  the  same  time?     A. — I  did. 

Q. — From  Mr.  Sothmann  ?     A. — I  did. 

Q. — What  was  the  first  negotiations  you  had  with  him  or  anybody  else 
in  regard  to  the  purchase  of  these  cars,  or  either  of  them?  A. — As  far  as  I 
know  he  told  the  Commission  would  be  wanting  some  cars. 

Q- — Do  you  know  when  that  was  ?    A: — I  could  not  give  you  the  date. 


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Q. — When  was  the  next  interview  ? 

The  CHAIRMAN:  These  are  with  reference  to  the  negotiations  for  the 
sale  of  these  machines  to  the  Commission  ? 

Mr.  ELLIOTT  :  No,  to  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.  A. — Mr.  Sothmann 
came  to  me  and  told  me  he  had  two  cars  that  he  would  like  to  sell. 

Q. — That  was  before  the  time  he  told  you  that  the  Commission  would 
want  some  cars?  A. — Well,  I  cannot  say. 

Q. — When  was  that?  A. — I  cannot  tell.  Mr.  Sothmann  was  in  the 
habit  of  coming  in  and  out  and  I  cannot  remember  the  details. 

Q. — Can  you  tell  us  what  was  the  first  thing  between  you  and  him  in  re- 
gard to  the  purchase  by  you  of  these  cars?  A.> — I  cannot  tell  you.  I  know 
tthat  I  bought  the  cars  from  him. 

Q. — How  many  interviews  did  you  have  before  you  bought  them?  A. — I 
cannot  answer  that. 

Q. — Have  you  any  idea  ?  A. — I  might  have  seen  Mr.  Sothmann  and  Mr. 
Gaby  fa  half  a  dozen  times. 

Q.' — Who  is  Mr  Gaby?     A. — One  of  the  assistant  engineers. 

Q. — Did  the  two  gentlemen  come  together  ?    A. — Sometimes,  yes. 

Q. — Did  you  have  any  correspondence  in  regard  to  these  cars  ?  A. — In 
connection  with  these  two  cars  ? 

Q. — Yes.     A. — None  whatever. 

Q. — Tell  us  what  else  took  place.  A. — Well,  Mr.  Sothmann  came  in  and 
said  he  had  two  oars. 

Q.' — When  was  that  ?  A. — I  think  it  was  two  or  three  wreeks  before  the 
sale  took  place.  He  told  me  he  had  two  machines  that  he  wanted  to  sell  and 
asked  me  if  I  would  take  them  off  his  hands.  He  sent  the  cars  in  and  I  put  a 
price  on  them,  and  demonstrated  them.  Both  Mr.  Sothmann  and  Mr.  Gaby 
tested  the  cars,  and  I  think  Mr.  Gaby  drove  the  machines  to  Hamilton  and  back. 

Q. — Who  drove  with  them  to  Hamilton  ?  A. — Mr.  Leggatt  was  with  Mr. 
Gaby  in  the  car  at  the  time. 

Q. — That  was  before  the  purchase?  A. — Yes.  Mr.  Sothmann  and  I 
valued  the  cars. 

Q. — At  what  price  ?     A.- — At  the  price  we  took  them  over  at. 

Q. — How  long  was  that  before  the  deal  was  closed  ?     A. — I  cannot  tell. 

Q. — As  nearly  as  you  can.  A. — It  was  some  time  before  they  bought  the 
machines. 

Q. — -Would  you  say  it  was  three  weeks  ?  A. — It  might  have  been  three 
weeks,  it  might  have  been  two  months.  From  the  first  time  I  spoke  to  Mr. 
Sothmann  it  was  quite  a  time  before  the  machines  came  in. 

Q. — When  you  first  saw  them  did  you  value  them?  A. — when  I  first 
saw  them  I  told  them  what  I  thought  the  machines  were  worth. 

Q. — How  long  was  it  after  you  valued  the  machines  that  your  valuation 
was  accepted  ?  A. — Do  you  mean  when  the  sale  was  consummated  ? 

Q. — Yes.     A. — I  cannot  tell  you. 

Q. — When  was  the  deal  consummated  ?     A. — I  cannot  say  exactly. 


APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Q. — Have  you  nothing  in  your  books  to  show  that?     A. — No. 

Q. — Your  cheque  was  dated  May  18,  1909  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — Have  you  nothing  to  show  when  they  were  sold  to  the  Hydro-Electric  ? 
A. — Only  a  verbal  agreement  was  made. 

Q. — You  have  nothing  whatever  to  show?  A. — I  really  cannot  tell  you 
when  the  sale  was  made. 

Q. — Who  was  it  made  through?  A. — Mr.  Sothmann. 

Q.< — Then  Mr.  Sothmann  sold  the  cars  to  you,  and  bought  them  back 
again?  A. — Mr.  Sothmann  and  Mr.  Gaby. 

Q. — He  gave  you  the  cheque  in  payment  for  the  cars  ?  A. —  It  was  sent 
to  me  by  Mr.  Sothmann. 

Q. — What  day  was  it?    A. — It  was  the  same  day. 

Q. — The  whole  was  one  deal?    A. — Not  necessarily. 

Q. — Two  deals  in  one  day?  A. — The  money  w>as  received  by  the  Auto- 
mobile &  Supply  Co.  and  Mr.  Sothmann  received  a  cheque  on  his  own  sale 
apparently  about  the  same  time. 

Q. — Then  you  bought  the  cars  from  Mr.  Sothmann  and  he  decided  to 
take  it  on  behalf  of  the  Commission  ?  A. — With  Mr.  Gaby. 

Q. — I  understood  you  to  say  yesterday  morning  Mr.  Sothman.  A. — Mr. 
Gaby  was  with  him  when  the  purchase  was  made. 

Q. — Do  you  know  who  owned  these  two  second-hand  automobiles  before 
they  were  sold  to  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.  ?  A. — I  understand  since  that 
one  was  owned  by  Mr.  Sothman  and  the  other  by  J.  F.  Beck,  London. 

Q. — Do  you  know  Mr.  J.  F.  Beck  ?  A. — I  understand  he  is  a  brother  of 
the  chairman  of  the  Commission. 

Q. — How  long  w>as  it  that  these  cars  were  tested  by  the  representatives 
of  the  Commission  before  they  decided  to  take  them?  A. — I  do  not  know. 
The  cars  were  thoroughly  tested  and  driven  by  Mr.  Leggatt.  I  understood  they 
had  gone  to  Hamilton  along  the  right-of-way,  and  back. 

Q. — Were  these  machines  bought  before  they  were  tested?     A. — No,  sir. 

Q. — Were  the  machines  put  in  shape  before  they  were  sold  ?  A. — I  under- 
stand yes. 

Q. — Who  put  them  in  shape  ?     A. — I  do  not  know. 

Q. — Well  now,  was  the  deal  completed  before  the  cheque  was  paid  ?  A.— 
Verbally,  yes. 

Q. — H6w  long  before  ?     A. — I  cannot  tell  you. 

The  CHAIRMAN:  In  view  of  what  has  come  out  I  think  we  should  call 
Mr.  Sothmann. 

Q. — Can  you  tell  us  the  year  that  the  Olds  car  was  made?  A. — 1906, 
I  believe. 

Q. — What  would  be  the  price  now?  A. — The  price  of  the  car  was  $2,- 
400  stripped,  that  is,  without  any  equipment. 

Q.— New  in  1906?     A.— In  1906. 

Q. — What  did  this  car  have  on  it  at  the  time  of  the  deal  ?  A. — At  the 
time  that  this  car  came  in? 


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Q. — At  the  time  of  the  deal  between  Sothmann  and  you  and  you  and 
Sothmann.  A. — As  close  as  I  dan  remember  it  had  a  top,  a  glass  front,  and 
a  magneto. 

Q. — What  would  be  the  value  of  the  car  at  that  time  ?  A. — What  would 
be  the  value  of  this  car  ? 

Q. — Yes.     A. — The  top  is  worth  from  $125  to  $150. 

Q. — And  the  other  equipment?  A. — The  glass  front  from  $40  to  $60, 
and  a  speedometer  from  $45  to  $125. 

By  Mr.  McDouGAL. 

Q. — What  was  on  the  car  ?    A. — I  cannot  tell  you. 

Q. — What  would  be  the  price  of  this  car  bought  new?  A. — I  am  trying 
to  give  it  to  you.  The  top  would  be  worth  $125,  the  glass  front  complete  would 
be  worth  $50,  the  speedometer  from  $40  to  $125,  say  $75  for  an  average,  a 
magneto  put  on  the  car  in  1906  would  cost  about  $150  to  $200,  I  would  say 
about  $200  including  the  cost  of  putting  it  on. 

Q. — Were  these  attachments  all  on  the  car  ?  A. — As  far  as  I  can  remem- 
ber they  were.  The  car  was  completely  equipped. 

The  CHAIRMAN. 

Q. — That  would  be  about  $2,900.  A. — A  little  more  than  that,  because 
there  is  the  cost  of  putting  on  the  fixtures. 

Q. — What  year  was  the  Mitchell  made?  A. — I  think  it  was  made  in 
1907. 

Q. — It  would  be  worth  about  how  much  now?  A. — It  would  be  worth 
$2,600  without  equipment. 

Q. — The  same  figures  would  apply  as  in  the  case  of  the  Olds?     A — Yes. 

Q. — It  was  not  in  as  good  repair  as  the  other  machines  ?  A. — I  would 
not  like  to  say  that.  I  would  say  they  were  in  about  the  same  state  or  repair. 

Q. — Do  you  know  which  of  these  cars  blew  up  ?    A. — Neither  one  blew  up. 

Q. — Do  you  remember  telling  us  yesterday  about  some  second-hand  car 
that  blew  up  ?  A. — No,  sir. 

K}. — Then  burned?  A. — That  is  different  altogether.  I  heard  that  one 
was  burnt,  the  Oldsmobile. 

Q. — You  spoke  about  the  cars  being  fixed.  What  did  you  mean  by  that? 
A. — Put  in  shape.  I  do  not  know  anything  about  that. 

Q. — What  was  considered  necessary  to  be  done  ?    A. — I  do  not  know. 

Q. — Was  it  done  at  the  garage  ?    A. — I  do  not  know. 

Q. — Where  was  it  done?     A.— I  do  not  know. 

Q. — What  does  it  mean,  then,  when  you  say  they  were  kept  until  they 
were  put  in  shape?  A. — They  were  kept  in  the  warehouse  for  some  time, 
and  then  taken  away  and  put  in  shape.  The  Olds  was  taken.  I  think,  to  the 
Olds  warerooms  to  have  the  work  done. 

Q. — Who  paid  for  the  repairs?     A. — I  do  not  know. 

Q. — Did  you  pay  for  the  repairs?     A. — There  was  nothing  to  do. 


APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  1910 


Q. — So  that  you  really  had  nothing  to  do  with  it?  A. — We  had  the 
machines  in  our  place,  paid  for  them,  arid  then  turned  them  over  to  Mr. 
Sothmann. 

Q. — And  Mr.  Sothmann  bought  them  for  the  Commission?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Can  you  give  the  particulars  of  folio  115  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Have  you  them  here  ?     A. — No. 

Q. — Perhaps  you  will  bring  them  up  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Can  you  find  particulars  of  other  Pearce  Arrow  cars  which  you  sold 
last  year  and  the  prices  ?  A. — Can  I  find  the  prices  ? 

Q. — Can  you  give  me  a  list  of  the  Pearce  Arrow  cars  sold  last  year? 
A. — Yes,  I  can  give  you  a  list  of  the  Pearce  Arrow  cars  sold  last  year.  We 
have  a  standard  price*  on  the  machine,  which  is  governed  by  the  amount  of 
discount  we  receive  on  the  other  side.  A  machine  on  which  we  get  25  per  cent, 
off  we  add  a  certain  percentage  to,  the  same  as  if  we  only  get  20  per  cent,  off 
we  only  add  a  certain  percentage  to.  On  other  machines  we  add  30  per  cent. 

Q. — There  was  no  commission  paid  at  all?     A. — None  whatever. 

Q. — How  long  would  it  take  to  get  a  list  of  the  sales  of  Pearce  Arrows 
last  year  ?  'A. — Sales  for  Canada  ? 

The  CHAIKMAN  :     Do  you  want  a  complete  list  ? 

Q. — I  would  like  to  get  a  list  of  the  sales  for  last  year.  A. — I  would 
have  to  look  that  up. 

Q. — A  car  was  sold  to  the  Commission  in  the  fall.  Did  you  sell  that  car  ? 
A.— Yes. 

Q.— What  was  it?     A.— A  Mitchell. 

Q. — What  was  the  date  of  that  sale  ?  A. — It  is  pretty  hard  to  give  you 
the  details  of  that  sale,  for  this  reason,  that  I  notice  on  the  order  for  the 
Pearce  Arrow  that  I  could  not  tell  whether  the  date  was  that  on  which  the 
car  was  paid  for  or  the  date  on  which  the  sale  was  made.  I  see  that  the  order 
for  the  Mitchell  is  dated  November  30,  1909. 

Q. — What  price  did  you  sell  the  Mitchell  for?     A. — $1,570,  equipped. 

Q. — How  old  was  that  car  ?     A. — 1908. 

Q- — Was  it  the  same  kind  of  car  as  was  sold  in  the  spring?  A. — It  cer- 
tainly was  not.  It  was  a  smaller  one,  a  sort  of  a  runabout,  with  a  capacity 
for  only  two  passengers.  The  other  car  would  carry  five. 

Q- — Who  did  you  get  it  from  ?     A. — The  Mitchell  Motor  Car  Company. 

Q- — And  that  transfer  took  place  about  November  30?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Did  you  make  anything  on  that  sale  ?     A.— I  do  not  think  we  did. 

Q- — You  do  not  think  you  did  ?  A. — I  do  not  think  we  miade  a  dollar. 
I  may  tell  you  that  when  we  bought  that  machine  it  was  not  equipped  as  we 
thought  would  give  satisfaction,  so  we  undertook  to  equip  the  car  with  a  mag- 
neto which  was  not  regularly  on  the  machine,  a  wind  shield,  and  a  pet  of  cur- 
teins.  We  put  this  equipment  on  the  machine,  and  by  the  time  we  got  through 
I  do  not  think  we  made  a  cent. 

Q.— Is  Mr.  Gaby  harder  to  suit  than  Mr.  Sothmann  ?  A.— Mr.  Gaby  is 
a  little  harder  on  the  machine  than  Mr.  Sothmann. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  55 


Q. — Is  he  hard,  or  is  Mr.  Sothmann  hard?     A. — I  heard  no  complaints. 

Q. — As  a  general  thing  you  just  handled  these  second-hand  machines  for 
the  love  of  the  business  ?  A. — We  do  not  even  get  that  out  of  it. 

Q. — You  have  to  do  jour  repairs?  A. — We  do  a  whole  lot  of  second- 
hand work  on  which  we  lose  money. 

By  the  CHAIRMAN. 

Q. — For  the  sake  of  the  new  business  ?  A. — For  the  sake  of  the  new 
business. 

By  Mr.  McGAEBY. 

Q. — Mr.  Sothmann  simply  came  in  to  you  and  left  his  two  machines  in 
the  garage?  A. — No,  Mr.  Sothmann  came  in  and  had  the  machines  sent  in 
afterwards. 

Q. — He  had  a  conversation  with  you,  in  which  he  said  he  wished  to  dis- 
pose of  these  machines  ?  A. — He  said  he  had  them  for  sale. 

Q. — Did  he  tell  you  he  was  not  able  to  keep  them  at  that  time  ?  A. — No, 
I  do  not  remember  that. 

Q. — Did  you  understand  from  his  conversation  that  they  were  going  to 
be  turned  over  to  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission  ?  A. — I  think  I  did. 

Q. — Did  you  understand  that  he  wished  to  have  a  thorough  inspection 
before  the  transaction  took  place  ?  A. — I  did. 

Q. — Did  you  inspect  them  after  they  were  brought  in?     A. — I  did. 

Q. — Were  they  thoroughly  examined  by  Mr.  Gaby?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Mr.  Gaby  made  a  thorough  examination?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Mr.  Gaby  is  a  man  who  understood  something  about  these  cars  ? 
A.— Yes. 

Q. — After  he  made  the  examination  was  he  satisfied  with  them? 
A.— Yes. 

Q. — He  made  an  examination  of  both  cars  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Mr.  Smith,  you  have  given  us  a  statement  that  you  examined  both 
cars  and  valued  them  yourself?  A. — I  did. 

Q.' — What  did  you  say  as  to  the  value  of  these  two  cars  ?  A. — The  cars, 
when  they  were  turned  over  to  the  Commission,  were  good  value. 

Q. — At  what  sum?     A. — At  the  price  paid. 

Q. — It  frequently  happens  that  you  have  to  purchase  second-hand  cars? 
A. — We  have  to  do  that  all  the  time. 

Q. — With  reference  to  the  Pierce  Arrow  car  you  sold  them  for  $5,370, 
have  you  sold  any  other  Pierce  Arrow  cars  to  other  persons  ?  A. — Yes.  We 
sold  some  Pierce  Arrow  cars  last  year. 

Q. — You  had  this  sale  in  mind  at  the  time  the  second-hand  machines  were 
disposed  of?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Is  the  price  charged  for  the  Pierce  Arrow  lower  than  you  charge 
other  persons?  A. — It  is  lower. 

Q. — By  reason  of  the  fact  that  you  sold  this  machine  to  the  Commission 
and  turned  over  the  machines  of  Mr.  Sothmann's,  you  did  not  charge  any  com- 
mission ?  A. — No,  sir. 


56  APPEXDIX  Xo.  1.  1910 


Q. — What  amount  did  you  pay  in  commission  in  connection  with  the 
transaction  of  the  purchase  of  the  two  automobiles?  A. — Nothing. 

Q. — And  there  is  nothing  to  hide  in  connection  with  the  whole  transac- 
tion? A. — Absolutely  nothing. 

Q. — And  nothing  exists  with  Mr.  Sothmann  or  any  other  employee  of  the 
Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission?  A. — Nothing. 

Q. — From  your  understanding  with  Mr.  Sothmann  when  you  were  buy- 
ing these  machines  you  took  them  into  stock  in  the  regular  way  of  business  ? 
A.— Yes. 

Q. — And  that  arrangement  was  carried  out  upon  the  receipt  of  a  cheque 
and  the  giving  of  one  the  same  day  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — How  long  was  it  before  the  date  you  received  the  cheque  that  you 
first  consummated  the  bargain  with  Mr.  Sothmann?  A. — I  could  not  say 
exactly,  probably  two  or  three  weeks. 

Q. — As  I  understand  it,  between  the  time  you  first  spoke  to  Mr.  Sothmann 
and  the  time  you  received  a  cheque  from  the  Commission,  repairs  were  made 
to  the  machine  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — These  repairs  did  not  cost  your  company  anything?     A. — No. 

By  the  CHAIRMAN. 

Q. — There  was  a  bona  fide  purchase  from  Mr.  Sothmann  before  you  made 
any  attempt  to  sell  the  machines  ?  A. — I  agreed  to  take  the  cars  over. 

Q. — I  understood  from  you  that  your  reason  for  taking  these  cars  over 
from  Mr.  Sothmann  and  turning  them  over  to  the  Commission  at  the  same 
price  you  paid  for  them  was  with  the  view  of  getting  other  business?'  A. — I 
understood  the  Commission  were  buying  a  number  of  cars,  and  T  wanted  to 
get  some  of  the  business,  and  so  I  made  this  deal. 

Q. — The  same  question  follows  with  regard  to  the  Pierce  Arrow  car. 
You  sold  that  lower  to  the  Commission  than  you  sold  to  others?  A. — I 
wanted  to  see  a  Pierce  Arrow  car  on  that  work,  because  I  felt  that  the  car  was 
particularly  suited  for  the  heavy  work  it  was  called  upon  to  perform. 

Q- — You  wanted  to  put  that  car  on  the  work  to  demonstrate  that  it  was 
fitted  for  work  of  that  nature?  A. — Yes. 

Q- — You  have  a  uniform  price  for  these  Pierce  Arrow  cars  A. — There 
is  no  concern  in  Toronto  that  has  a  uniform  price  for  automobiles. 

Q. — Did  I  understand  you  to  say  that?  A. — I  said  that  we  had  a 
uniform  price  by  adding  a  certain  percentage  to  what  we  were  allowed  on  the 
other  side. 

By  Mr.  McEwiNG. 

Q- — Was  it  distinctly  understood  when  you  took  these  cars  over  that  they 
were  to  be  disposed  of  to  the  Commission  ?  A. — Mr.  Sothmann  said  he  had 
two  machines  that  he  wished  to  dispose  of.  He  brought  them  in,  and  I  under- 
stood that  the  cars  were  to  be  sold  to  the  Commission. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q- — Did  you  know  that  Mr.  Sothmann  was  chief  engineer  of  the  Com- 
mission ?  A. — I  knew  he  was  chief  engineer. 


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By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q. — Did  he  say  that  it  would  look  better  for  the  sale  to  be  made  through 
you  than  through  him?  A. — Yes. 

Mr.  ERIPP  :  The  whole  point  to  the  question  is  this,  when  the  Commission 
were  buying  these  cars  were  they  dealing  with  Sothmann  or  anybody  else. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON  :  Except  this,  that  this  company  came  into  the  matter 
and  inspected  the  machines. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Have  you  any  correspondence  with  the  Commission  with  relation  to 
these  machines  ?  A. — We  had  specifications  only. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  REAUME. 

Q. — Have  .you  sold  a  Pierce  Arrow  car  like  that  which  was  sold  to  the 
Commission  at  a  lower  price  than  they  paid  ?  A. — I  do  not  think  we  ever  sold 
a  car  as  low  as  that. 

Q. — It  was  a  cash  sale  ?  A. — It  was  about  four  months  before  we  got  our 
cheque. 

By  Mr.  McCART. 

Q. — You  sold  the  Pierce  Arrow  as  an  advertisement  ?  A. — I  sold  it  that 
way  because  I  thought  it  would  stand  up  for  the  work. 

By  the  CHAIRMAN. 

Q. — Did  you  know  anybody  in  the  transaction  except  Mr.  Sothmann? 
A.— No. 

The  witness  was  discharged. 


Mr.  P.  W.  SOTHMANX,  called,  sworn  and  examined. 

By  Mr.  Me  GARRY. 

Q. — You  are  chief  engineer  of  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission? 
A.— Yes. 

Q. — And  you  were  in  the  spring  of  1909  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — You  sold  two  cars  to  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Company,  to  Mr. 
Smith  ?  A.— Exactly. 

Q. — One  of  these  cars  you  got  from  Mr.  J.  E.  Beck,  of  London,? 
A.— Yes. 

Q. — About  how  long  before  the  sale  took  place?  A.« — About  three  or 
three  and  a  half  months,  I  cannot  tell  for  sure. 

Q. — How  much  did  you  pay  for  that  machine?     A. — To  J.  E.  Beck? 

Q.— Yes.     A. — About  $1,500. 

Q. — Subsequent  to  that  did  you  expend  any  money  in  repairs  on  that  car  ? 
A. — I  suppose  altogether  about  $400  to  $450. 

*Q. — Did  you  use  the  car  that  you  bought  from  Mr.  Beck?  A. — No,  it 
was  in  the  winter  time. 

Q. — You  had  a  car  of  your  own?     A. — Yes. 

Q.— It  was  an  Olds?     A.— Yes. 


58  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Q. — What  did  that  car  cost  you  ?  A. — $1,300. 
Q. — Did  you  subsequently  equip  it?  A. — Yes. 
Q. — It  was  a  second-hand  car?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — What  did  you  do  to  the  car  ?  A. — I  put  in  new  cylinders,  costing 
about  $400;  new  carburetors,  $18 ;  new  tires,  and  had  the  old  ones  repaired. 
In  fact,  I  put  the  machine  in  first-class  condition. 

Q. — Did  you  put  a.  hood  on  the  car?     A. — A  glass  front  and  a  top. 

Q. — How  much  did  the  repairs  cost  you  altogether  ?  A. — About  $400  or 
$450,  maybe  slightly  more,  I  am  not  absolutely  sure.  Besides  that  I  gave  my 
time. 

Q. — How  long  did  you  have  the  car  before  you  sold  it  to  the  Automobile 
Company?  A.1 — I  think  I  bought  it  in  April,  1908. 

Q. — And  you  used  it  during  the  summer  and  fall  ?  A. — Ninety  per  cent. 
of  the  use  I  gave  it  was  for  the  Commission.  The  Commission  did  not  have 
any  money  for  motor  cars,  and  as  I  could  not  use  the  horses  to  get  over  the 
ground  fast  enough,  as  I  was  out  day  and  night,  I  bought  the  automobile. 

Q. — Then  you  bought  it  for  the  purpose  of  using  it  for  the  Commission 
and  paid  for  it  out  of  your  own  pocket  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Subsequently,  in  the  spring  of  1909,  the  Commission  had  estimates 
passed  providing  for  the  purchase  of  a  number  of  cars?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Did  they  have  the  money  then  ?     A. — The  money  was  paid  for  them. 

Q. — You  went  to  Mr.  Smith,  of  the  Motor  Company  ?  A. — Yes.  I  told 
him  that  I  had  two  cars  I  wanted  to  sell,  as  these  cars  were  not  built  for  long- 
distance travelling,  and  I  would  want  a  heavier  car.  Nothing  else  was  said. 

Q. — Did  you  tell  Mr.  Smith  that  the  Commission  wanted  to  buy  two  such 
cars  as  you  were  selling?  A. — Not  at  that  time. 

Q. — Did  you  tell  him  that  before  the  money  passed  between  you  that  the 
Commission  would  buy  them  back?  A.< — I  could  not  say  so  then. 

Q. — Before  the  money  was  paid  there  was  an  agreement  that  you  would 
receive  $3,200  for  these  cars?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Before  the  money  had  passed  was  it  not  understood  that  the  Com- 
mission was  to  purchase  these  cars  which  you  were  selling?  A. — I  said  the 
Commission  would  be  wanting  some  cars. 

Q. — Did  you  tell  them  that  these  two  cars  would  be  suitable  to  the  Com- 
mission? A.- — I  told  him  they  were  quite  suitable. 

Q. — When  he  took  these  two  cars  was  the  price  fixed?  A. — I  told  him 
to  value  them  himself. 

Q. — Did  Mr.  Smith  value  them  ?     A. — Mr.  Smith  or  Mr.  Grant. 
Q. — Did  they  place  a  value  on  them  ?     And  what  was  that  value  ?  A. — In 
the  condition  in  which  I  turned  them  over? 
Q.— Yes.     A.— $3,250  for  the  two  cars. 

Q- — The  Commission  purchased  these  same  two  cars  at  that  same  figure  ? 
A.— Yes. 

Q. — And  you  knew  they  were  buying  them?     A. — Yes. 


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Q. — Was  an  examination  of  these  machines  made  at  the  time  they  were 
taken  over  by  the  Commission?  A. — We  tried  them  out  from  Hamilton  to 
Toronto. 

Q. — Who  took  these  cars  to  Hamilton  ?     A. — Mr.  Gaby. 

Q. — Mr.  Gaby  took  these  cars  and  examined  them  ?  A. — Yes,  with  one 
of  the  engineers  and  a  driver  from  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Company. 

Q. — Mr.  Gaby  made  a  report  to  the  Commission?     A. — 2s"o,  to  me. 

Q. — Did  you  make  a  report  to  the  Commission?  A. — I  made  a  recom- 
mendation that  we  decide  upon  these  two  cars  among  six,  eight  or  ten  others. 
It  was  at  a  time  that  we  expected  to  buy  a  number  of  cars.  I  told  Mr.  Gaby 
to  investigate  a  number  of  cars  and  to  take  one  of  his  engineers,  try  them,  and 
report.  We  asked  the  different  automobile  dealers,  and  each  one  of  them  sub- 
mitted a  car  and  our  engineers  tested  them.  We  selected  certaini  cars  and 
made  a  recommendation. 

Q. — I  understand  your  engineers  examined  ten  or  twelve  cars.  A. — No, 
about  six  or  eight. 

Q. — These  cars  were  from  the  different  motor  companies  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Were  they  second-hand  cars?     A.- — Second-hand  cars  and  new  cars. 

Q. — Did  the  engineer  report  in  writing  or  verbally  ?  A. — I  do  not  think 
there  were  any  written  reports. 

Q. — Did  they  recommend  these  two  cars  that  you  sold  to  the  Motor  Com- 
pany ?  A.- — Yes. 

Q. — At  what  prices?  A. — We  found  that  the  Automobile  Supply  Com- 
pany were  asking  $3,250.  •"  I  said  that  was  reasonable. 

Q. — They  recommended  the  purchase  of  these  two  cars?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — In  payment  the  Commission  sent  a  cheque  to  Mr.  Grant?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — What  date  did  you  receive  a  cheque  from  the  Automobile  Company? 
A. — The  same  day. 

Q. — I  suppose  you  had  nothing  to  do  with  the  cheques  ?     lA. — ~No. 

Q. — But  you  received  a  cheque  for  $3,250?     A.' — Yes. 

Q. — Did  any  member  of  the  Commission  know  anything  about  your 
having  sold  these  cars  to  the  Motor  Company  before  they  were  purchased  by 
the  Commission?  A. — ~No.  On  my  recommendation  I  put  down  the  names 
of  the  different  second-hand  cars.  I  think  there  were  one  or  two  other  dealers. 
I  recommended  one  car  more  than  the  Commission  would  agree  to  purchase. 

Q. — You  made  your  recommendation  in  writing  ?     A. — Yes,  for  five  cars. 

Q. — And  of  these  the  Commission  purchased  how  many?     A. — Four. 

Q.— And  out  of  these  there  were  two  that  you  had  sold  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Did  any  member  of  the  Commission  know  before  the  purchase  of 
these  two  cars  that  they  originally  belonged  to  you  ?  A. — "Not  to  my  knowl- 
edge. 

Q. — So  far  as  you  are  aware  you  never  told  any  member  of  the  Com- 
mission ?  A. — No. 


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Q. — Did  any  member  of  the  Commission,  so  far  as  you  know,  have  any 
knowledge  of  the  facts  that  one  of  these  cars  originally  belonged  to  Mr.  J.  F. 
Beck,  of  London?  A. — I  never  told  them. 

By  the  CHAIRMAN. 

Q. — Did  you  ask  for  tenders?     A, — Yes. 

Q. — You  asked  for  tenders  from  the  different  firms  doing  business? 
A. — Yes,  we  had  twelve  tenders. 

Q. — Did  you  examine  any  Mitchell  cars  in  other  places  as  well  as  the 
Automobile  &  Supply  Co.  ?  A. — Yes,  I  think  at  Hyslop's.  We  decided  on  the 
second-hand  car  manufactured  by  this  company.  It  was  reasonable  and  in 
good  shape. 

Q. — You  had  had  experience  with  these  machines  ?  You  bought  them 
and  had  run  them  yourself?  !A. — Yes. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

I  understood  you  to  say  that  you  paid  $1,500  to  Mr.  J.  F.  Beck  for  his 
car  ?  A.— Yes. 

Q. — Did  you  pay  any  commission  out  of  the  $1,750  that  was  left  after 
you  paid  Mr.  Beck  his  $1,500?  That  is,  did  you  pay  any  other  person? 
A.— No. 

By  the  CHAIRMAN. 

Q. — You  kept  the  whole  amount  ?     A. — I  did  not  divide  it  with  anybody. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — What  is  your  position  at  the  present  time  with  the  Hydro-Electric 
Power  Commission?  A. — Chief  engineer. 

Q.— When  did  you  first  engage  with  them?     A. — September,  1906. 

Q. — By  whom  were  you  engaged  ?     A. — By  the  Commission. 

Q. — Who  saw  you  ?    A. — I  think  I  saw  Mr.  Cecil  B.  Smith. 

Q- — Anybody  else  ?     A. — I  do  not  know.     A  letter  was  sent  to  me  by  him. 

Q. — Where  were  you  before  that?  A. — I  was  consulting  engineer  in 
New  York. 

Q. — What  was  the  salary  they  engaged  you  at  at  that  time?  A. — The 
salary  for -the  first  year  was  to  be  $3,500. 

Q- — And  you  were  kept  at  that  until  when  ?     A. — Until  September,  1907. 

Q. — And  what  about  expenses?     A. — Expenses  all  paid. 

Q. — And  up  till  September  you  did  not  use  an  automobile  at  all? 
A.— No. 

Q. — Was  there  any  change  in  your  arrangements  after  that?  Did  you 
get  the  same  salary  for  the  second  year  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Did  you  get  an  automobile  that  year?     A.> — In  June  or  July. 

Q.' — What  kind  was  that  ?     A. — It  was  an  Olds  car. 

Q.— Before  you  got  the  automobile  you  charged  your  expenses  to  the 
Commission  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Did  you  charge  any  expenses  for  the  car?  A. — No,  I  do  not  think 
I  did. 

Q. — Not  for  upkeep  or  anything  else?    A. — Not  one  cent. 


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Q. — There  is  an  item  of  $15,176.61  in  the  Public  Accounts  for  auto- 
mobiles. Does  anything  appear  in  that  for  the  running  or  upkeep  of  your 
automobile  ?  A. — I  do  not  think  .so.  Not  that  I  remember. 

Q. — Did  you,  before  you  got  the  automobile,  speak  to  the  Commission 
about  buying  some?  A. — No,  I  did  not  point  it  out  to  the  Commission.  I 
said  our  travelling  was  heavy,  and  we  should  have  automobiles  because  we 
travelled  long  distances. 

Q. — And  they  gave  you  to  understand  that  they  would  buy  some  later, 
after  they  had  told  you  they  had  no  money  to  buy  them  at  present  ?  A. — No. 

Q. — Your  salary  was  at  $3,500  per  year  until  September,  1908  ? 
A. — Yes,  I  think  so. 

Q'.' — Was  there  any  change  then  ?  When  did  you  get  a  raise  ?  A. — As 
soon  as  we  started  construction.  I  think  in  January,  1909. 

Q. — What  was  your  salary  raised  to?     A. — $6,000  and  expenses. 

Q. — Did  you  go  away  in  the  early  part  of  1909  ?  A. — Yes,  I  went  to 
Europe  some  time  in  May,  about  the  end  of  the  month. 

Q. — When  did  you  come  back  ?     A. — I  think  in  the  early  part  of  July. 

Q. — Who  went  with  you  ?     A. — Mr.  Mansfeldt,  one  of  my  assistants. 

Q. — Do  you  know  what  your  expenses  were  ?  A. — My  assistant  was  over 
before  I  left  Toronto,  for  the  reason  that  I  could  not  spare  much  time.  He 
was  instructed  to  see  several  manufacturers. 

Q. — Did  you  put  in  an  itemized  bill  for  your  expenses  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Can  you  give  an  idea  of  what  it  amounted  to?  A. — About  $1,800, 
that  was  for  my  assistant  and  myself. 

Q. — There  is  a  bill  for  $2,885.28,  travelling  expenses  to  Europe.  A. — I 
spent  about  $1,800,  but  I  paid  all  the  expenses  of  my  assistant  for  six  weeks. 
I  cannot  say  about  the  balance.  The  other  engineer  was  there  some  months 
before  me. 

Q. — You  first  bought  your  automobile  in  July,  1908?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — What  was  it,  an  Olds?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Did  you  ever  own  a  Rambler  ?  A. — Yes.  I  went  to  the  Automobile 
&  Supply  Co.,  and  said  I  wanted  a  car,  and  tried  a  Rambler.  I  paid  $300 
down  on  it. 

Q. — How  long  did  you  keep  the  Rambler?    A. — About  fourteen  days. 

Q. — What  price  were  you  to  pay  for  it?     A. — $625. 

Q. — You  got  it  about  April,  1908  ?     A. — I  could  not  say. 

Q. — Well,  you  took  out  a  permit  for  it  on  April  22,  1908.  A. — You  may 
be  right. 

Q- — Did  you  take  out  a  permit  for  any  other  machine?  A. — Yes,  for 
the  Olds. 

Q- — Will  you  swear  you  never  took  out  a  permit  for  any  other  car  but 
the  Rambler  ?  A. — I  do  not  remember.  I  had  a  permit  from  the  office  of  the 
Automobile  &  Supply  Company.  It  may  have  been  a  transfer  from  the 
Rambler. 


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Q. — When  did  you  pay  for  the  Mitchell?     A. — About  the  end  of  May, 
1909. 

Q. — You  paid  for  it  after  it  was  sold  to  the  Commission?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Have  you  any  entries  showing  when  you  paid  for  it?     A. — Eo. 

Q. — Was  it  paid  for  by  cheque  or  cash  ?     A. — I  sent  them  a  cheque. 

Q. — The  cheque  would  be  returned.     Can  you  get  that  cheque?     A. — I 
think  so. 

Q. — You  sent  that  cheque  to  Mr.  J.  F.  Beck,  London.     A. — Yes. 

Q.— For  how  much  ?     A.— $1,500. 

Q. — It  was  in  pretty  good  shape  when  you  got  it?     A. — No,  it  was  a 
first-class  car,  but  the  carburetor  was  not  right. 

Q. — But  it  was  a  good  car  when  you  sold  it  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — Tell  us  what  you  did  to  the  car  ?    A. — I  got  new  tires  and  fixed  it  up 
properly. 

Q. — What  did  you  pay  for  them  ?     A. — I  do  not  know. 

Q.-r-Where  did  you  get  them?     A. — From  a  firm  who  makes  the  tires. 

Q. — How  much  did  you  pay  for  the  repairing  of  the  old  tires?     A. — I 
could  not  say. 

Q. — What  else  did  you  get  done  ?     A. — I  put  on  a  glass  front. 

Q. — Did     you     pay    anybody    else    in    connection    with  this    machine? 
A. — Yes,  Mr.  Mansfeldt,  my  assistant. 

Q. — How  much  did  you  pay  him  ?     A. — I  could  not  say.     I  asked  Mm 
to  help  me  on  Saturdays. 

Q.^Did  you  pay  him  for  that  ?     A. — I  could  not  say. 

Q. — Have  you  paid  anybody  else?     A. — I  paid  my  machinist. 

Q. — But  you  paid  Mr.  Mansfeldt  nothing?     A. — I  do  not  know. 

Q.' — Did    you    pay    anything    for    the    carburetor?      A. — I    paid    my 
machinist. 

Q. — How  much  did  you  pay  for  the  carburetor?      A. — $18.      It    was 
from  the  Reo  firm. 

Q.- — What  else  did  you  do  ?     A. — I  put  on  a  top. 

Q. — What  was  the  machinist's  name?     A. — I  do  not  know. 

Q. — What  did  you  pay  him?     A. — $15  a  week. 

Q. — For  how  many  weeks?     A. — I  had  him  for  several  weeks. 

Q. — Were  you  devoting  your  whole  time  to  the  Mitchell  ?     A. — We  were 
working  on  both  machines. 

Q. — Do  you  know  the  name  of  your  machinist  ?     A. — I  only  know  his 
first  name,  which  was  George. 

Q. — And  you  paid  him  by  cheque  or  cash?     A. — By  cash. 

Q. — How  long  was  he  with  you?     A. — I  cannot  say;  some  time  up  to 
six  months.     I  do  not  know  really. 

Q. — Did  you  buy  anything  else  for  the  machine?       A. — A  number  of 
pins. 

By  the  CHAIRMAN. 

Q. — You  mean  small  bolts?     A. — Yes. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.     '  G3 


By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

They  did  not  cost  you  much  ?     A.« — Some  as  high  as  $2  each. 

Q. — Did  you  pay  out  anything  else  in  connection  with  these  machines? 
A. — I  cannot  remember. 

Q. — Now  when  you  decided  to  sell  these  machines  you  wanted  all  you 
could  get  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Did  you  have  other  offers  for  these  machines?  A. — Yes,  I  had  a 
number  of  offers.  I  could  have  sold  them  for  more  than  that.  But  the  other 
people  wanted  some  terms,  that  is,  payments  in  instalments,  and  I  wanted  to 
sell  for  cash.  I  would  have  had  to  wait  some  time  for  my  money. 

Q. — You  did  not  have  any  other  cash  offers?     A. — No. 

Q. — Did  you  have  any  offers  equal  to  that  of  Mr.  Smith?  A. — They 
were  not  cash  offers,  but  exceeded  the  amount. 

Q. — How  many  other  offers  did  you  have?    A. — Four  or  five. 

Q. — At  the  time  you  sold  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Company,  had  you 
any  idea  that  the  Commission  were  going  to  buy  these  cars  ?  A. — No, 

Q. — None  whatever?     A. — None  whatever. 

Q,. — You  never  discussed  this?     A. — No. 

Q. — You  are  absolutely  sure  about  it  ?     A. — Yes,  I  am  certain. 

Q. — Nothing  else  except  that  you  sold  the  cars  in  the  best  condition? 
A.— Yes. 

Q. — And  on  behalf  of  the  Commission  you  bought  them  back?  A. — 
Exactly. 

By  Mr.  Me  GABBY. 

Q. — You  were  authorized  to  buy  machines  by  the  Commission?  A. — 
Yes. 

Q. — They  told  you  to  buy  machines?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — What  prices  did  they  say  ?  A. — In  our  estimates  we  allowed  $20,000 
for  automobiles.  I  recommended  five  automobiles,  and  we  decided  to  pick  out 
eight  or  ten  different  cars  and  submit  them  to  tests.  We  wanted  some  cars  for 
long  distance  and  heavy  work,  and  others  which  would  be  lighter  for  the 
engineers  along  the  right-of-way,  who  could  operate  the  machines  themselves. 

Q. — After  examining  these  cars  you  found  nothing  better?  A. — No,  I 
found  something  better,  but  the  price  was  too  high. 

Q.1 — But  these  were  the  best  two  cars  you  saw  for  the  money?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — When  did  you  see  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.  ?  A. — I  think  it 
was  about  the  end  of  March. 

Q. — You  got  your  cheque  on  May  18  ?     A. — Exactly. 

Q. — And  you  sent  a  cheque  later  to  Mr.  J.  F.  Beck,  at  London  ?  A. — 
Yes. 

Q. — What  arrangements  did  you  make  with  him  for  paying  him?  A. — I 
did  not  want  to  spend  $500  to-day  and  $200  in  a  month  or  so.  I  did  not  want 
to  make  conditions.  . 

Q. — Did  you  make  the  purchase  in  London  or  Toronto  ?  A. — I  think 
it  was  in  London. 


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Q., — HOW  did  you  bring  it  to  Toronto  ?     A. — By  the  railroad. 

Q. — Who  obtained  the  permits  for  the  Commission?  A. — Mr.  Settell, 
who  was  secretary  of  the  Commission  at  that  time. 

Q. — What  is  he  now  ?     A. — Assistant  secretary. 

Q.' — Do  you  know  who  was  running  the  Olds  car  at  the  time  it  was 
burned?  A. — Our  engineer. 

Q.— What  did  you  pay  for  the  Olds  ?     A.— $1,300  stripped. 

Q. — And  you  made  a  great  many  improvements  on  it  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q.— About  what  did  they  cost  ?     A.— From  $400  to  $450. 

The  Committee  adjourned. 


COMMITTEE  ROOM, 

March  8th,  1910. 

A.  J.  YOUNG,  of  North  Bay,  called,  sworn  and  examined. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Where  do  you  reside  ?     A. — North  Bay. 

Q. — What  were  the  first  negotiations  you  made  in  regard  to  the  Gillies 
Limit?  A.: — Instructing  Robert  McKay  to  put  in  a  tender  for  me. 

Q.— And  anybody  else  ?    A.— Yes,  Mr.  O'Brien. 

Q. — When  was  that?  A. — The  morning  of  the  day  that  the  tenders 
closed. 

Q. — And  that  Mr.  McKay  is  of  what  firm  ?  A. — He  is  a  solicitor  in 
Toronto,  and  is  connected  with  the  firm  of  Johnston,  McKay,  Dodds  and  Grant. 

Q.— And  the  morning  that  the  tenders  closed,  do  you  remember  that  you 
gave  some  instructions  ?  A. — I  gave  some  instructions. 

Q. — When  did  you  first  know  about  the  Gillies  Limit?  What  was  your 
first  information  in  regard  to  it  ?  A. — Well,  my  information  goes  back  to  the 
early  discoveries  at  Cobalt. 

Q. — What  information  had  you  at  the  time  it  was  first  advertised  ?  A. — I 
had  no  special  information  at  all,  except  the  information  which  was  open  to 
the  public  in  the  reports  of  the  Bureau  of  Mines  and  the  maps  which  were 
published  by  the  Government. 

Q. — Anything  further  ?     A. — Nothing  further. 

Q. — Did  you  make  an  examination  of  the  limit  specially?     A. — No. 

Q. — Did  anyone  do  so  for  you?     A. — No. 

Q. — Or  for  Mr.  O'Brien,  so  far  as  you  know?     A.— No. 

Q. — And  you  simply  got  your  information  out  of  the  reports  of  the 
Bureau  of  Mines?  A. — Yes,  out  of  the  published  reports  of  the  Bureau  of 
Mines,  and  the  geological  map,  and  the  other  maps  issued  by  the  Department 
of  Lands  and  Mines. 

Q' — Yes,  and  did  you  have  any  consultation  with  anyone  in  the  Depart- 
ment in  regard  to  your  tender  ?  A. — No  person. 


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Q. — When  did  you  first  know  that  it  was  being  sold  by  tender  ?  A. — It 
was  when  they  published  the  advertisements. 

Q. — Do  you  know  what  paper  you  saw  it  advertised  in?  What  time  of 
the  year  would  that  be  ?  A. — I  do  not  think  I  can  tell  you  in  regard  to  that. 
These  tenders  were  to  be  in  on  June  15,  I  think,  and  the  limit  was  advertised 
for  some  weeks  before  that.  I  do  not  know  just  how  long. 

Q. — The  Deputy-Minister  received  instructions  to  advertise  on  the  22nd  of 
April,  and  your  tender  was  accepted.  What  was  that  tender  ?  A. — $10,500. 

Q. — For  what?     A. — For  parcel  number  A23  in  the  Gillies  Limit. 

Q. — NOW  what  did  lot  A23  consist  of?  A. — A  block  of  land  in  the 
Gillies  Limit,  approximately  20  acres. 

Q. — And  your  tender  of  $10,500  was  accepted?     A. — Yes. 

Q.- — When  did  you  get  notice  of  its  acceptance  ?  A. — Within  a  few  days 
after  June  15th. 

Q. — Now  before  the  tender  was  accepted,  did  you  have  any  negotiations 
with  regard  to  the  sale  of  that  lot?  A. — No. 

Q.— When  did  you  sell  it  ?     A.— About  the  first  of  October. 

Q.— Of  1909  ?   "A.— Yes. 

Q. — To  whom?  A. — The  contract  was  made  with  James  A.  Brooke,  of 
Montreal. 

Q. — For  all  that  you  purchased?     A. — For  all  that  we  purchased. 

Q. — For  how  much  money  ?     A. — For  $330,000. 

Q. — In  the  meantime,  what  did  you  do  on  the  limit  ?  A. — We  spent 
about  $3,500  on  the  limit. 

Q. — How  was  that  expenditure  made?  A. — In  trenching  and  ordinary 
prospecting.  It  was  largely  spent  in  investigating  the  land  and  veins. 

Q. — Who  was  that  done  by?     A. — By  Mr.  O'Brien  and  myself. 

Q. — By  men  representing  you?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Did  you  sell  it  by  public  auction  or  private  sale?  A. — By  private 
sale. 

Q.' — Who  owns  it  now?     A. — The  Wyandoh  Mining  Company. 

Q. — Who  bought  it  from  the  man  to  whom  you  sold  ?  A. — Well,  I  think 
Mr.  Brooke  got  it  for  a  syndicate,  but  I  do  not  know  who  the  personnel  was, 
but  I  think  he  got  it  for  a  syndicate. 

Q. — As  near  as  you  can,  who  did  the  syndicate  consist  of  ?  A. — Who  did 
it  consist  of? 

Q. — Yes.  A. — I  do  not  believe  I  know  them  all,  but  I  think  there  were 
Shirley  Ogilvie,  Alex.  Pringle,  Milton  Hersey,  W.  Mitchell,  James  Robinson 
and  Mr.  Brooke. 

Q. — Where  do  they  all  reside?     A. — In  Montreal. 

Q. — You  sold  it  to  him  for  them.  How  long  did  they  hold  it?  A. — I 
do  not  know. 

Q. — Do  you  know  who  they  sold  it  to  ?  A. — I  do  not  know.  It  is  said 
to  the  Wyandoh  Mining  Company.  I  cannot  say  whether  they  organized  a 
company  or  sold  it  to  a  company  organized. 


66  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Q. — Do  you  know  what  price  they  paid  for  it?     A. — No. 

Q. — Do  you  know  who  sold  it  to  them?     A. — No. 

By  the  CHAIRMAN.     . 

Q. — It  may  be  that  this  syndicate  organized  a  company.  A. — I  think 
so.  I  think  they  organized  the  Wyandoh  Mining  Company. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland). 

Q. — Was  it  a  cash  transaction?     A. — No. 

Q. — You  took  stock?  A. — No.  It  was  ultimately  cash,  but  not  a  spot 
transaction. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — Was  part  of  the  consideration  to  the  Government  a  royalty  in 
addition  to  the  cash?  A. — Yes,  a  royalty  of  10  per  cent,  on  the  gross  ore 
mined  at  the  mouth  of  the  mine,  which  the  purchasers  from  O'Brien  and  myself 
assumed. 

By  Mr.  CLAKKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q. — This  was  a  good  mine? 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:    That  is  not  a  fair  question. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Did  I  understand  you  to  say  that  you  knew  exactly  the  date  of  the 
sale?  A. — It  was  some  time  in  October. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q. — From  what  you  knew  of  mining  transactions  and  mines  in  general, 
the  mine  was  simply  worth  what  you  paid  for  it?  A. — Yes. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — But  you  improved  it  with  your  trenching?  A. — Yes,  it  was  worth 
a  good  deal  more  then. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q. — It  was  the  result  of  your  trenching  and  the  work  you  did  that  im- 
proved the  value  of  the  mine  ?  A. — Yes,  and  the  discoveries  which  were  made 
in  trenching. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — When  you  tendered  for  that  mine,  were  there  others  ?  A. — I  do  not 
know.  We  thought  that  we  were  soaked  for  it. 

Q. — The  others  might  be  soaked  ?  A. — I  quoted  our  price  and  they  made 
an  examination.  They  had  four  expert  mining  engineers  go  over  the  property, 
and  on  their  report  the  purchase  was  made. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q. — They  did  not  take  it  on  your  recommendation?  A. — No,  they  sent 
their  own  men. 

Q. — And  on  the  report  of  their  own  men  they  bought  it?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — And  you  made  some  discoveries  in  the  meantime?     A. — Yes. 

By  Mr.  Me  GARRY. 

Q. — How  long  was  it  after  you  purchased  that  land  before  the  discovery 
was  made  on  the  Waldman  property  ?  A. — I  think  it  was  just  about  a  month 
afterwards. 


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Q. — I  understand  that  the  Waldman  property  was  the  richest  discovery 
on  the  Gillies  Limit  after  the  Provincial  Mine?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — How  far  was  that  from  your  land  ?  A. — It  lies  right  next  our  prop- 
erty, and  we  have  about  one-half  of  the  visible  surface  showings. 

Q. — You  took  advantage  of  the  discovery  on  the  Waldman  property  and 
trenched  on  your  land?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — And  was  not  yours  a  continuation  of  the  Waldman  vein  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — And  the  Waldman  vein  was  the  first  rich  discovery  made  on  the 
limit  ?  A.— Yes. 

Q. — At  the  time  you  bought  the  property  you  thought  you  paid  a  pretty 
big  price?  A.— Yes. 

Q. — When  was  the  Waldman  vein  first  struck  ?  A. — Just  about  a  month 
after  we  purchased  the  property. 

Q. — And  that  is  the  limit  adjoining  yours  ?  A. — It  is  the  next  property, 
Number  A22. 

Q. — Who  owns  it  now?     A. — The  Waldman  Mines,  Limited. 

Q. — Is  the  Waldman  in  the  Gillies  Limit?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — -Was  it  sold  at  the  same  time  that  the  government  sold  your  property  ? 
A.— Yes,  but  he  only  paid  $2,000  for  it. 

Q. — Did  he  sell  it  again?     A. — To  his  company,  I  think. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — They  did  a  lot  of  work  on  it?  A. — Yes,  they  had  between  50  and 
70  men  working. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — How  many  acres  is  there  in  it?     A. — Approximately  twenty. 

The  CHAIRMAN  :     The  limit  is  cut  up  into  20-acre  lots. 

Q. — That  was  sold  for  $2,000,  and  it  developed  within  a  month  to  a  valu- 
able property.  Can  you  give  any  idea  of  what  it  has  been  sold  for  since? 
A.— No. 

Q. — It  has  a  rich  vein  ?    A. — Yes,  it  was  a  rich  vein  on  the  surface. 

Q. — Are  they  operating  now?     A. — Yes.  i 

Q. — How  is  it  turning  out  ?    A. — I  have  no  special  knowledge. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — It  is  like  all  mining  enterprises,  you  are  taking  chances?  A. — One 
of  these  veins  may  be  exceedingly  rich  on  the  surface  and  may  continue  that 
way  or  it  may  run  right  out. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — This  Waldman  mine  is  located  next  to  yours  upon  which  a  rich  vein 
was  found.  That  helped  the  sale  of  your  property  ?  A. — Yes,  the  Waldman 
vein  helped  the  sale  of  our  property. 

Q. — You  bought  your  property  at  the  same  time  as  the  others  ?    A. — Yes. 

The  witness  was  discharged. 


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Mr.  S.  A.  ARMSTRONG,  called,  sworn  and  examined. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — Mr.  Armstrong,  what  is  jour  position?  A. — Assistant  Provincial 
Secretary. 

Q. — It  is  your  Department  that  permits  for  automobiles  are  obtained  ? 
A.— Yes. 

Q. — Will  you  just  tell  us  what  system  is  followed?  A. — An  application 
is  made  on  the  form  supplied  by  the  Department  in  which  the  numbers  of  the 
machine  are  inserted,  and  signed  by  the  applicant  or  his  agent.  A  license  'is 
then  issued  to  him,  a  permit,  together  with  two  markers.  These  markers  are 
attached  to  the  car,  one  in  front  and  one  behind. 

Q. — They  are  the  numbers  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — And  they  stay  on  the  car  ?     A. — They  are  supposed  to. 

Q. — Suppose  a  man  is  purchasing  a  car  from  someone  else,  does  that 
appear  on  his  application?  A. — It  may,  and  it  may  not.  They  are  supposed 
to  give  all  information,  but  in  a  great  many  cases  they  do  not  attend  to  it.  It 
is  really  impossible  to  follow  it  up. 

Q. — Have  you  any  records  of  a  permit  being  obtained  by  Mr.  Sothmann  ? 
A. — Yes,  I  have  one  here. 

Q.1 — For  what  car?     A. — For  a  Rambler. 

Q.— What  is  the  date  of  that?     A.— Twenty-seventh  of  April,  1908. 

Q. — What  is  the  number  of  the  permit  ?     A. — Number  200. 

Q. — What  is  the  next  car  that  Mr.  Sothmann  obtained  a  permit  for? 
A. — I  am  not  aware  that  he  obtained  any  further  permit. 

Q. — Have  you  any  record  of  a  transfer  of  number  200  ?  A. — The  only 
record  we  have  is  a  note,  which  was  made  on  the  bottom  of  the  application, 
in  which  the  statement  is  made  that  it  is  transferred  from  P.  W.  Sothmann, 
from  number  200. 

Q. — Was  the  200  number  retained  when  the  transfer  was  made?  A. — I 
presume  it  was.  It  was  evidently  not  returned  here. 

Q. — Was  it  retained  in  the  car  when  the  transfer  was  made?  A. — "No. 
A  new  number  was  issued. 

Q. — Have  you  any  note  as  to  why  that  change  was  made?  A. — No,  I 
have  not  that  information.  At  that  season  of  the  year  particularly  there  are 
a  great  many  applications  coming  in,  and  we  could  not  pay  attention  to  all 
the  notes  attached  to  the  applications.  The  name  of  the  applicant  and  a  de- 
scription of  the  car  are  the  chief  items  of  information  we  wish  to  secure,  and 
evidently  this  application  came  in  from  somewhere  and  was  put  through  with 
other  applications. 

Q. — What  name  is  on  the  application?  A. — The  name  is  given  as  the 
Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission,  and  the  transfer  is  made  from  Mr.  Soth- 
mann. 

Q. — And  a  new  number  was  issued  ?     A. — I  suppose  so. 

Q. — As  far  as  you  know  was  any  other  permit  granted  but  number  200 
to  Mr.  Sothmann?  A. — No. 


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Q. — What  other  permits  were  granted  to  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Com- 
mission? A. — Permit  granted  on  the  23rd  of  April,  190.9,  number  5,821; 
on  the  26th  of  April,  1909,  5,759. 

Q. — Have  you  a  permit  for  a  Mitchell  car,  granted  to  the  Commission'* 
A. — Yes,  on  the  27th  of  November,  1909. 

Q. — Have  you  a  permit  granted  to  the  Commission  in  1909  for  a  MitcBell 
car  ?  A.— Yes. 

Q. — Is  it  a  new  permit  or  a  transfer?  A. — It  is  a  transfer  from  J.  F. 
Beck,  London,  license  number  2,617. 

Q. — Was  the  number  2,617  retained  when  the  transfer  was  made.  A. — 
No. 

Q., — So  that  a  new  number  was  taken  out  for  this  car  also?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — So  that  Mr.  Sothmann's  name  does  not  appear  as  a  licensee  to  run 
that  car  ?  A. — No.  The  permit  was  issued  to  the  Commission. 

Q.— And  what  is  the  date  ?    A.— Twenty-third  of  April,  1909. 

The  witness  was  discharged. 


Mr.  P.  W.  SOTHMANN,  recalled  and  examined. 

By  Mr.  MCGARRY. 

Q. — When  you  were  here  the  other  day  you  could  not  tell  us  exactly  how 
much  money  you  expended  on  repairs  to  these  cars  ?  A. — No. 

Q. — Are  you  in  a  position  to-day  to  tell  us  how  much  money  you  actually 
expended  in  cash  on  improvements  to  these  cars  ?  A. — Up  to  a  certain  extent 
I  can  do  so.  I  tried  to  get  all  the  vouchers  together.  This  is  a  statement  of 
what  I  spent. 

(Exhibit  A.)  The  first  item  in  this  statement  is  for  $373,63,  and  is 
covered  by  vouchers. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — On  what  car  was  that?  A. — On  the  two  cars,  the  Mitchell  and~the 
Olds. 

By  Mr.  MCGARRY. 

Q. — In  addition  to  this  expenditure  for  which  you  produce  vouchers,  what 
other  expenditure  did  you  make  on  these  two  cars  ?  A. — Then  I  bought  a 
carburetor,  repaired  the  tires  and  I  figure  in  here  two  months  for  the  machinist. 

Q. — For  the  tire  repairs,  the  carburetor  and  fixing  the  machines  up  what 
do  you  charge  ?  A. — I  should  say  one  hundred  dollars. 

Q. — And  for  the  labour  of  the  machinist  for  the  two  months  what  do  you 
charge?  A. — I  charge  $120  for  the  two  months. 

Q. — I  understood  the  last  day  that  you  had  the  machinist  working  for 
about  six  months?  A. — I  have  had  him  do  a  lot  of  work  for  me,  but  I  only 
charge  two  months  of  his  time. 

Q. — One  hundred  and  twenty  dollars?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — What  else  ?    A. — Then  I  bought  a  speedometer,  pumps  and  a  jack. 


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Q. — Total  how  much  ?    I  do  not  know  just  how  much  I  paid  for  the  jacks. 

Q. — What  do  you  estimate?     A. — Seventy-five  dollars. 

Q. — And  what  else  ?     A. — I  put  on  an  interrupter  on  the  car. 

Q. — How  much  was  that?     A. — Eighteen  dollars. 

Q. — Then  you  made  all  these  repairs  to  the  two  cars  after  you  got  them  ? 
A.— Yes. 

Q. — And  they  were  completed  before  you  took  them  to  the  Automobile  & 
Supply  Co.  ?  A.— Yes. 

Q. — In  addition  to  that,  you  told  us  on  the  last  day  that  you  expended 
considerable  labour  on  them  yourself  ?  A. — Yes,  my  leisure  time  and  Saturday 
afternoons. 

Q. — Your  own  time?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — And  that  was  after  you  were  free  from  your  work  at  the  Hydro- 
Electric  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — And  if  you  hadn't  done  that,  the  repairs  would  have  cost  a  great  deal 
more  ?  A. — I  would  have  had  to  send  the  cars  to  a  garage,  to  have  the  repairs 
made. 

Q. — How  much  do  you  estimate  your  own  time  as  worth  ?  A. — Oh,  I 
could  not  say. 

Q. — Two  hundred  dollars  ?    A. — I  would  say  it  was  worth  at  least  $100. 

Q. — So  you  expended  in  cash  $686.63,  with  $100  of  your  own  time, 
which  makes  a  total  of  $786.63  that  you  expended  on  these  cars  before  you 
sold  them  to  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q.' — The  last  day  you  were  here  you  told  us  that  you  made  a  recommenda- 
tion to  the  Hydro-Electric  Commission  with  reference  to  the  purchase  of  cars. 
Have  you  a  copy  of  your  recommendation?  A. — Yes,  sir.  (Exhibit  B.) 

Q. — The  two  last  names,  the  Mitchell  and  the  Olds,  are  the  cars  that  we 
have  referred  to  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — On  the  same  day  you  made  several  other  recommendations  in  which 
these  cars  were  included  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — And  on  the  same  date  a  meeting  of  the  Commission  was  held  at  which 
this  minute  was  passed  and  you  purchased  the  four  cars?  (Included  in  Ex- 
hibit B.)  A.— Yes. 

Q. — Did  you  receive  any  tenders  prior  to  this  ?  A. — Yes,  I  was  down 
to  the  Automobile  show  in  1,908  and  I  saw  most  of  the  exhibitors  and  told 
them  that  we  would  be  buying  cars  and  would  like  them  to  submit  offers. 

Q. — Can  you  produce  a  copy  of  a  communication  from  the  Automobile 
&  Supply  Co.  dated  the  16th  of  February?  A.— Yes.  (Exhibit  C.)  I  have 
copies  of  several  letters  from  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  the  Oldsmobile 
Co.  and  the  Canadian  Cycle  and  Motor  Co.  (Exhibits  D,  E,  F,  G.  H.) 

Q. — After  your  recommendations  were  made,  how  many  cars  did  you 
purchase  ?  A. — Four. 

Q. — What  were  the  four  cars?  A. — One  Pierce  Great  Arrow,  36  h.  p., 
6  cylinder,  $5,200;  one  Russell,  45  h.  p.,  4  cylinder,  $4,250;  one  Mitchell,  36 
h.  p.,  4  cylinder,  $1,650;  one  Olds,  36  h.  p.,  4  cylinder,  $1,600. 


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Q.— From  whom  did  you  buy  the  Pierce?  A. — From  the  Automobile 
&  Supply  Co. 

Q. — The  Eussell  ?     A.< — From  the  Canada  Cycle  &  Motor  Co. 

Q. — And  the  other  two  cars?     A. — From  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co. 

Q.— Which  were  they  ?     A.— The  Mitchell  and  the  Olds. 

Q. — And  the  price  for  the  two  was  $3,250.     A. — Yes. 

Q.' — Now  in  answer  to  Mr.  Elliott  the  other  day  you  said  that  the  Olds 
car  was  burned  ?  A. — The  Olds,  yes. 

Q. — How  long  had  it  been  in  use  by  the  Commission  before  it  was 
burned  ?  A. — May  be  seven  or  eight  months,  I  cannot  say  exactly. 

Q.— In  the  Fall,  no  doubt  ?       A. — Yes. 

Q. — Probably  after  only  six  months'  use  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — Was  it  insured  ?     A. — Yes,  all  machines  are  insured. 

Q. — How  much  was  it  insured  for  ?    A. — $1,200. 

Q. — And  the  Commission  received  $1,200  for  it?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — You  received  this  money  from  the  insurance  company  after  using  the 
car  seven  or  eight  months  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Have  you  the  cheque  you  paid  to  Mr.  J.  F.  Beck,  London,  for  the 
car  you  purchased  from  him?  A.' — I  have  the  cheque  from  the  Bank  of 
Montreal,  and  the  correspondence  dated  May  19th,  1909.  (Exhibit  I.) 

Q.— What  did  you  pay  for  the  Olds  ?     A.— $1,300. 

Q. — Have  you  the  vouchers  ?     A. — I  have. 

Q. — Now  you  gave  vouchers  with  reference  to  the  trip  of  yourself  and 
another  engineer  to  Europe?  A. — Yes,  sir. 

Q. — Now  before  we  go  into  those  vouchers,  would  you  tell  me  what  is  the 
name  of  the  other  engineer  who  accompanied  you  ?  Can  you  produce  the  vouch- 
ers? A. — Mr.  Mansfeldt  accompanied  me,  and  I  have  the  vouchers  for  the 
expenses.  (Exhibit  J.) 

Q. — I  understand,  he  went  away  before  you  left  for  the  Old  Country? 
A. — He  left  here,  I  think,  six  or  eight  weeks  before  I  left  and  was  sent  to  con- 
dense the  work. 

Q. — I  understand  when  you  met  him  in  the  Old  Country  that  you  paid 
the  expenses  for  both  when  you  were  travelling  together?  Ai — Up  to  that 
time  he  had  paid  all  his  expenses,  but  when  we  were  travelling  together  I  paid 
95  per  cent. 

Q. — You  can  produce  vouchers  for  the  expenses  made  by  you  both  going 
and  coming?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Your  total  expenses  were  $1,788.05  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — When  did  you  leave  for  Europe  ?  A. — I  left  in  May,  and  returned 
about  the  twelfth  of  July. 

Q. — These  are  the  vouchers  which  show  in  detail  your  expenses?  AJ.*—- 
Yes. 

Q. — You  let  the  other  engineer  remain  after  you  left  the  Old  County? 
A. — He  remained  there  about  one  and  a  half  or  two  months  longer. 

Q. — And  you  have  the  vouchers  for  his  expenses  also  ?    A. — Yes. 


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Q. — Now  to  sum  up  your  evidence,  see  if  I  understand  your  statement 
correctly  with  reference  to  the  whole  transaction.     In  June  or  July,  1908,  you 
bought  an  Olds  car  from  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.  for  $1,300.    You  used 
it  in  connection  with  your  Hydro-Electric  Commission  work  during  the  sum- 
mer and  fall  of  1908.     During  that  summer  and  fall  you  had  occasion  to  drive 
in  a  Mitchell  car  belonging  to  Mr.  J.  F.  Beck,  of  London,  and  ascertained 
that  he  desired  to  sell  the  car.     In  December,  1908,  you  decided  to  buy  this 
car  from  him  for  $1,500,  and  he  agreed  to  sell  it  to  you  at  that  price.    You  told 
him  you  could  pay  for  it  from  time  to  time,  but  he  preferred  to  wait  and  told 
you  he  would  wait  until  you  could  pay  for  it  all  at  once.     You  then  put  on 
these  two  cars  repairs  which  cost  you  $686.63,  in  addition  to  which  you  devoted 
your  own  time  after  your  regular  business  hours  and  this  time  you  say  would 
cost  "if  another  expert  did  the  work"  about  $100.     You  paid  for  your  own 
car  $1,300  and  for  J.  F.  Beck's  car  $1,500,  or  a  total  of  $2,800.     You  ex- 
pended in  cash  $686.63  and  time  $100,  making  a  total  of  $3,586.63,  and  you 
sold  the  two  cars  for  $3,250.     In  the  month  of  February,  1909,  tenders  were 
called  for  and  in  March  you  made  recommendations  to  the  Commission  of 
several  different  cars,  and  these  recommendations  included  Olds  car  and  the 
Mitchell  car  which  you  had  sold  previously  to  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co. 
Before  you  had  sold  to  the  Supply  Company  and  before  you  had  recommended 
the  purchase  by  the  Hydro-Electric  Commission  you  had  had  these  two  cars 
valued  by  Mr.  Smith  of  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Company,  and  he  valued 
them  at  $3,250.     The  Commission's  engineers  other  than  you  made  a  thorough 
test  of  these  automobiles  before  recommending  the  purchase,  and  there  were 
none  others  available  at  so  low  a  figure.    You  and  the  other  engineers  believed 
and  still  believe  that  they  were  good  value  for  the  money.     You  knew  the  cars 
before  this,  were  familiar  with  the  running  of  them  and  felt  that  they  would 
be  most  serviceable  for  the  Commission's  work.     The  Commission  bought  four 
cars,  of  which  these  were  two.    When  these  two  cars  were  paid  for  you  received 
a  cheque  from  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.  for  $3,250.     No  commissions, 
whatever,  were  paid  to  any  person  in  connection  with  the  whole  transaction, 
and  no  profits  whatever  were  made  by  you.     You  could  have  sold  for  a  larger 
sum  but  would  have  had  to  wait  for  your  money  and  receive  it  in  instalments, 
Is  this  a  correct  statement  of  the  transaction    regarding    these    automobiles  ? 
A. — Yes,  sir. 

By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — I  understand  you  to  say  that  this  $686.63  was  for  repairs  to  the 
automobiles,  for  fixing  up  the  machines  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — Does  it  include  any  cost  of  running  the  cars  ?     A. — No.     I  have  bills 
for  that. 

Q.' — Do  you  mean  that  for  sure?     Does  that  include  any  gasoline  used 
in  running  the  cars  ?    A. — "No. 

Q. — In  this  statement  of  $375.63?     A. — That  was  all  included  in  the 
vouchers. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  73 


Q. — Was  it  not  a  matter  of  ordinary  repairs  that  you  made  at  that  time? 
A. — The  cars  would  have  run  without  them. 

Q. — Here  is  an  item  of  $4  for  one  lamp,  two  gallons  of  oil,  ten  gallons 
of  gasoline.  Are  these  the  repairs  you  refer  to  in  making  up  the  item  of 
$373.63  ?  A. — If  those  items  are  included  I'll  have  to  ask  your  pardon.  I 
did  not  intend  that  they  should  be  put  in,  and  I  have  not  had  the  time  to  go 
over  the  matter  carefully. 

Q. — What  are  the  other  items  for,  then  ?  A. — For  merchandise  which  I 
have  referred  to. 

By  Mr.  MCGARRY. 

Q.— This  bill  is  from  the  Oldsmobile  Co.  of  Canada— one  for  $293.37 
and  another  for  $143.77 — are  these  bills 'for  repairs  ?     A. — Yes. 
By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q.I — And  you  told  us  how  much  you  expended  on  each  car.  Was  there 
any  difference  between  the  two  cars?  Which  car  was  in  the  better  repair? 
A. — The  Mitchell  was  in  the  better  repair. 

Q. — Did  you  make  any  recommendations  in  writing  as  to  the  purchase 'of 
these  cars  ?  A. — No. 

Q.' — How  did  you  recommend  them  to  the  Commission?  A. — After  we 
decided  to  buy  I  said  here  were  two  second-hand  cars  that  would  suit  our  pur- 
pose, and  they  were  cheaper  than  any  other  cars  submitted,  so  I  recommended 
them. 

Q. — It  was  your  own  two  cars  that  you  recommended?  A. — Yes,  but  I 
knew  what  the  cars  would  do. 

Q. — Did  you  say,  here  are  two  cars  I  can  recommend?     A. — Yes. 
Q.' — Did  you  explain  to  the  Commission  that  you  wanted  to  sell  the  cars? 
A. — I  do  not  think  so. 

Q. — You  simply  indicated  to  the  Commission  that  you  could  recommend 
the  cars  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Did  anybody  make  any  enquiry  about  who  owned  these  cars  ?  3C. — 
No. 

Q. — They  simply  acted  on  your  recommendation  ?     A. — Yes. 
Q. — Where  are  the  cars  now?     A. — The  Olds  is  burned  up,  the  first 
Mitchell  is  still  in  the  field  doing  good  work,  and  the  other  Mitchell  that  we 
have  purchased  is  still  in  the  field. 

The  witness  was  discharged. 


Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.)  :  Mr.  Chairman,  on  page  454  of  the  Pub- 
lic Accounts  there  is  an  item  for  the  sale  of  lots  in  Gowganda  town  plot 
$5,560.47. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:  I  explained  that  the  other  day.     When  the  sale 
of  the  lots  was  made  it  was  found,  on  account  of  the  previous  location  of  the 


74  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  1910 


mining  lots,  would  affect  the  town  lots  and  purchasers  could  not  get  a  proper 
title,  so  we  persuaded  the  owners  of  the  mining  lots  to  surrender  their  rights 
on  payment  of  a  percentage.  They  claimed  mining  rights,  and  the  purchasers 
wanted  to  secure  a  clear  title. 

Mr.  CLARKE:  You  gave  them  this  money? 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:     We  gave  them  a  percentage. 

The  Committee  adjourned. 


COMMITTEE  ROOM, 

March  10th,  1910. 

Mr.  T.  W.  GIBSON,  recalled  and  examined. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE   (Northumberland.) 

Q. — Mr.  Gibson,  you  had  a  parcel  of  land  in  the  Gillies  Limit  called 
"A  6,"  and  according  to  the  statement  you  made  it  was  sold  in  June  last  to 
George  E.  Martel  for  $15,300.  Do  you  know  if  he  was  the  actual  buyer  ?  From 
the  information  I  have  M.  J.  O'Brien  was  the  actual  purchaser.  A. — That 
is  probably  correct,  but  I  could  not  say  what  the  records  show  without  con- 
sulting them. 

Q. — Did  the  Department  make  the  same  thorough  examination  of  this  lot 
as  it  did  for  the  others  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — What  was  the  result  ?  A. — A  vein  was  found  at  the  time  and  a  shaft 
was  sunk,  but  the  ore  found  was  not  valuable  for  silver.  It  did  not  show  any 
exceptional  promise. 

Q. — Then  the  same  party,  since  the  sale,  has  found  something  of  promise 
on  the  lot,  because  I  am  told  that  Mr.  O'Brien  was  offered  $150,000  for  the 
property.  Evidently  he  has  found  out  if  the  vein  was  worth  any  money.  A. — 
"No  ore  has  been  shipped  from  that  property  yet.  I  have  no  information  that 
silver  has  been  found  on  it. 

Q. — There  is  another  sale  to  S.  D.  Madden,  lot  "A  9,"  $2,500,  on  July  13, 
and  also  one  on  June  15,  $2,750,  for  lot  "A  12."  When  these  lots  were  sold 
were  they  transferred  to  this  purchaser  ?  A. — The  transfer  would  be  made  out 
in  the  ordinary  way  under  the  Land  Titles  Act. 

Q. — Have  you  copies  of  the  transfers  ?  A. — No,  not  after  the  patents  are 
issued. 

Q. — Then  Mr.  Madden  sold  these  properties  since  for  $30,000,  I  am  told. 
The  same  conditions  apply  to  this  property  as  to  the  others?  A. — Yes. 

Mr.  McGARRY :     Madden  sold  three  properties  ? 

Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.):  This  one,  "A  13,"  was  sold  for 
$30,000  and  he  got  the  cash  for  it  ?  A. — I  cannot  tell  you  anything  about  that, 
Mr.  Clarke.  After  he  obtained  his  patent  he  would  not  record  the  transfer 
with  the  Department,  but  all  subsequent  transfers  would  be  sent  to  the  local 
Master  of  Titles  at  North  Bay. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  75 


Q. — You  had  a  number  of  sales  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — How  many  before  the  31st  of  October?     A. — Three. 

Q. — Did  the  discovery  on  the  Waldman  property  benefit  the  subsequent 
sales  ?  A. — I  think  it  did. 

Q. — Did  it  affect  them  largely.     A. — It  affected  them  considerably. 

Q. — Did  you  get  larger  tenders  than  in  the  first  place?  A. — Yes,  the 
purchase  prices  were  much  higher  after  that  discovery  than  they  were  before. 

Q. — After  the  discovery  on  the  Waldman  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — Did  you  reject  tenders  in  some  cases  ?  Did  you  accept  any  under 
$2,000?  A. — No,  we  did  not  accept  any  tender  under  $2,000,  and  had  to 
reject  quite  a  number. 

Q. — And  you  accepted  the  highest  tender  in  each  case  ? 

Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.)-:  At  each  sale?  A. — In  each  sale  the 
highest  tender  was  accepted  for  every  lot  if  it  exceeded  $2,000. 

Q. — In  your  opinion  was  the  increased  price  obtained  due  to  the  discoveries 
on  the  Waldman  mine  subsequent  to  the  sale  ?  A. — Yes,  I  think  it  was.  There 
is  no  doubt  the  Government  reaped  the  advantage  from  the  discovery  of  the 
Waldman  vein  and  the  Province  made  a  great  deal  of  money  at  the  subsequent 
sales. 

The  CHAIRMAN:  Has  any  silver  been  shipped  from  the  Gillies  Limit? 
A. — None  except  that  from  the  Provincial  mine. 

Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.)  :  Have  you  any  idea  what  the  increase 
has  been  on  the  whole  as  a  result  of  the  Waldman  discovery  ?  A. — The  amount 
of  the  increase  in  the  tenders  subsequent  to  the  discovery  compared  with  those 
previous  ? 

Q. — Yes.  A. — The  increase  would  perhaps  be  three  times  as  an  immedi- 
ate result  of  this  discovery. 

Q. — And  the  sales  to  other  parties  were  due  to  the  same  fact?  A. — No. 
cfroubt. 

Mr.  McGARRY :  Did  you  have  more  than  one  tender  for  "A  6"  ?  A. — 
Yes,  "A  6"  was  sold  at  the  first  sale.  We  accepted  the  tender  with  a  ten  per 
cent,  deposit,  but  the  tenderer  declined  to  pay  up  the  remainder  of  the  money 
and  did  not  take  the  property. 

Q.— What  was  the  tender  price  at  the  first  sale  for  "A  6"  ?    A.— $11,000. 

Q. — By  whom  was  that  made  ?    A. — By  George  L.  Pratt,  Buffalo. 

Q. — And  he  paid  ten  per  cent.  ?     A. — Yes,  $1,100. 

Q. — At  what  sale  ?    A. — The  first  sale. 

Q.— On  the  15th  of  June  ?    A.— Yes,  sir. 

Q. — And  he  decided  not  to  take  the  lot?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — When  was  it  offered  for  sale  again  ?  A. — On  the  13th  of  September. 
It  would  be  the  third  sale. 

Q. — Was  it  offered  at  the  second  sale  in  July?  A. — Yes,  it  was  offered 
then,  but  there  were  no  bids. 

Q. — Then  in  September  Martel  paid  $15,300  for  it.    A. — Yes. 

Q. — Is  that  the  property  near  the  Morrison  claim  ?     A. — Yes. 


76  APPENDIX  -No.  1.  1910 


Q. — A  discovery  had  been  made  on  the  Morrison  claim  about  the  time  that 
sale  took  place?  A. — Yes,  it  was  so  reported. 

Q.— Did  you  get  more  tenders  for  "A  6"  other  than  the  one  from  Martel 
at  that  sale  in  September  ?  A. — Yes,  we  had  nine  tenders  for  that  lot. 

Q. — Would  you  tell  me  what  was  the  next  tender  to  Mr.  Martel's  ?  A. — 
The  next  tender  was  for  $4,050. 

Q. — And  the  other  tenders  were  under  that?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — You  accepted  the  highest  tender  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — Then  I  suppose  in  all  the  sales  there  were  different  tenders  for  the 
different  lots  and  you  sold  to  the  highest  ?  A. — Yes.  We  received  a  number 
of  tenders  for  the  different  lots  and  we  always  accepted  the  highest  tender. 

Q. — At  the  last  sale  you  got  tenders  as  high  as  $30,000  ?  A. — Yes,  I  think 
there  were  some  even  in  excess  of  that.  I  have  no  papers  here  with  reference 
to  the  last  sale,  because  that  was  not  within  the  ten  months. 

Q. — There  was  a  sale  higher  than  $35,000  ?  A. — -My  impression  is  that 
there  was  a  bid  higher  than  that.  I  think  it  was  as  high  as  $40,000. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q. — That  is  on  the  recent  sale  ?    A. — Yes,  that  is  on  the  last  sale. 

Q. — I  understand,  Mr.  Gibson,  that  you  said  your  later  sales  brought  the 
best  prices  ?  A. — The  last  sale. 

Q. — At  the  last  sale  the  sum  total  was  considerably  more  than  the  others  ? 
A. — Very  much  higher. 

Q. — That  naturally  comes  from  the  fact  that  the  discoveries  on  the  Gillies 
Limit  property  resulted  in  an  advance  in  price  to  the  Government?  A. — ^Yes, 
I  think  so. 

Q. — From  the  time  that  you  got  an  order  from  the  Minister  to  advertise 
for  tenders  can  you  tell  me  what  was  the  time  from  the  advertisement  to  the 
time  of  the  sale  ?  A. — An  Order-in-Council  was  issued  on  the  22nd  of  April 
authorizing  the  first  sale,  but  I  cannot  say  when  the  first  advertisement  appeared 
in  the  newspapers. 

Q. — That  was  when  you  advertised?  A. — The  advertisement  appeared 
shortly  afterwards  and  the  tenders  for  the  first  sale  closed  about  June  15th. 

The  CHAIRMAN  :  The  advertisement  in  the  newspapers  appeared  about  the 
23rd  of  April. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q. — What  way  did  you  advertise,  in  the  Toronto  papers  and  others  ?  A. — 
It  was  advertised  all  over  the  country. 

Q. — Was  it  advertised  outside  the  country,  in  New  York  and  other  places  ? 


Q. — Did  you  have  any  tenders  from  Americans  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — Many  ?  A. — A  fair  proportion.  I  think  the  larger  number  of  tenders 
were  received  from  residents  of  Canada,  but  there  were  a  number  of  tenders 
received  from  the  United  States,  from  parties  in  Pittsburg,  New  York,  Buffalo 
and  elsewhere. 

Q. — On  account  of  these  different  sales  I  suppose  the  later  properties  were 
better  than  those  offered  on  the  former  sales  ?  A. — Not  necessarilv  so. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1. 


By  Mr.  ELLIOTT. 

Q. — The  advertisement  provided  that  the  highest  or  any  tender  need  not 
necessarily  be  accepted  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — So  if  the  Government  on  receiving  any  tender  thought  that  the  price 
was  not  good  value  they  need  not  sell  ?  A. — No. 

Q. — Were  any  turned  down  ?    A. — All  under  $2,000. 

Q. — Your  policy  was  to  reject  any  tender  under  $2,000  irrespective  of 
what  it  referred  to  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Then  anything  over  $2,000  you  accepted.  A. — All  except  the  Pro- 
vincial Mine,  which  w,as  sold  separately.  We  thought  this  was  worth  more  on 
account  of  the  vein  which  had  been  discovered,  and  there  was  the  plant  and 
machinery,  for  which,  of  course,  we  could  not  accept  anything  like  $2,000. 

Q.— What  did  the  Provincial  Mine  sell  for?    A.— $113,111. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — Including  the  plant?     A. — Yes. 

Q.— What  was  the  plant  worth?    A.— Say  $8,000  to  $10,000. 

By  Mr.  MCGARRY. 

Q. — Is  this  a  list  of  the  newspapers  in  which  the  advertisement  appeared  ? 
reduced  list.)  A. — Yes. 

Q. — In  the  list  the  names  of  ninety  newspapers  throughout  the  Province 
are  given  in  which  the  advertisement  appeared  during  the  period  between  the 
time  you  received  instructions  and  the  time  the  tenders  were  closed  ?  A. — Yes. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — In  your  opinion  did  the  mining  world  and  the  people  who  would  be 
apt  to  purchase  have  a  fair  notice  ?  A. — Yes.  I  have  prepared  here  a  statement 
of  expenditure  and  collections  on  the  Gillies  Limit  from  1906  to  1909,  which 
I  thought  might  be  of  interest  to  the  Committee. 

Revenue.       Expenditure. 
1906 $19,159.48 

1907    30,686.60 

1908 $  12,592.90  30,648.1,6 

1909,  Sale  of  Provincial  Mine 113,111.00         .  13,777.72 

1909,  Sundries 2,324.71  


$128,028.61         $94,271.96 
Credit  balance    $33,756.65 

Sale  of  lots,  Gillies  Limit: 

Collection  to  Oct.  31st,  1909    $209,968.70 

Subsequently    278,713.60 

—     $488,682.30 


$522,438.95 


78  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


The  total  expenditure,  amounting  to  $94,271.96  is  for  ordinary  labour, 
prospecting,  surveying,  machinery  and  plant  at  the  Provincial  Mine,  which, 
deducted  from  the  revenue  amounting  to  $128,028.61,  leaves  a  balance  to  the 
credit  of  the  mine  of  $33,756.65.  The  total  receipts  from  the  sale  of  the  Pro- 
vincial Mine  and  lots  on  the  Gillies  Limit,  after  deducting  the  expenditures, 
shows  a  net  return  of  $522,438.95. 

l3y  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — That  is  over  expenditure?    A. — Yes. 

Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.)  :  I  understand  the  Government  received 
an  offer  of  $20,000,000. 

Mr.  GIBSON  :  No  statement  of  that  kind  was  ever  given  out  by  the  Bureau 
of  Mines. 

The  witness  was  discharged,  and  the  Committee  adjourned. 


COMMITTEE  ROOM. 

March  llth,  1910. 

Mr.  T.  W.  GIBSON,  recalled  and  examined. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q.- — Can  you  explain  an  item  on  page  415  of  the  Public  Accounts,  Silver 
Bar  Mine,  board  of  men  $624.08,  coal,  oil,  etc.,  $231.37,  making  a  total  of 
$855.45  ?  A. — This  item  has  reference  to  the  board  of  men  and  the  cost  of 
coal  and  oil  and  other  supplies  used  in  connection  with  the  operation  of  the 
Government  diamond  drill  at  the  Silver  Bar  Mine.  The  Silver  Bar  Mining 
Company  obtained  the  use  of  the  Government's  diamond  drill  under  the  regu- 
lations of  the  Department.  We  pay  our  men  so  much  per  day,  and  they  board 
themselves,  but  in  this  case  the  company  boarded  the  men  and  instead  of  pay- 
ing the  men  their  wages,  including  their  board,  the  company  rendered  a  bill  for 
the  board  to  the  Government  and  the  Government  credited  the  account  to  the 
company's  indebtedness  for  the  rent  of  the  drill  with  the  amount  of  the  board. 

Q. — I  understand  that  the  Government's  men  were  working  for  the  Silver 
Bar  Mining  Company  ?  A. — No,  they  were  engaged  by  the  Department.  The 
Department  has  two  diamond  drills,  and  the  services  of  these  drills  are  loaned 
to  different  parties  who  wish  to  use  the  drill  for  prospecting  on  their  own  prop- 
erty. The  men  go  with  the  drill. 

By  The  CHAIRMAN. 

Q. — You  do  not  mean  the  men  are  loaned  too  ?  A. — The  men  go  with  the 
drill.  We  supply  the  drill  and  the  manager  and  the  labour. 

By  Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON. 

Q. — But  they  pay  something  back  ?  A. — We  charge  the  whole  cost  to  the 
company  getting  the  drill  and  credit  them  back  with  35  per  cent,  of  the  amount, 
leaving  65  per  cent,  for  the  cost  of  operation,  to  be  borne  by  the  person  or 
company  using  the  drill.  Now  these  items  here  are  part  of  the  expenses  of 
running  the  drill. 


Edw.  VIL.  APPENDIX  Xo.  1. 


By  Mr.  CLARKE, 

Q. — When  you  loan  the  drill  you  send  the  men  with  the  drill  ?  A. — We 
send  the  manager  and  usually  supply  the  labour  necessary. 

Q. — How  does  the  Government  get  paid  for  this  work?  A. — They  pay 
u?  in  the  usual  way,  when  the  work  is  completed,  in  cash. 

Q. — How  do  you  charge  ?  A. — We  charge  the  total  expenditure  of  operat- 
ing to  the  company  getting  the  drill,  and  credit  them  back  with  35  per  cent., 
leaving  the  company  to  pay  65  per  cent,  of  the  cost  of  operation. 

Q. — In  other  words,  the  Government  bears  35  per  cent.  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — That  is  under  the  regulations  of  the  Department  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — You  must  have  had  quite  a  number  of  men  to  have  paid  $625  for 
board  ?  A. — The  drill  was  in  operation  from  the  end  of  July  for  almost  six 
months,  and  they  kept  it  running  with  both  day  and  night  shifts. 

Q. — This  item  for  coal  oil  looks  large.  A. — There  should  be  a  comma 
between  the  words.  It  is  for  coal  and  oil. 

Q. — I  think  that  clears  it  up  all  right.  A. — As  a  rule  we  just  send  the 
manager  with  the  drill,  who  goes  from  place  to  place  with  the  machinery,  and 
we  like  to  keep  him,  but  for  ordinary  help,  such  as  firemen  and  laborers,  we  are 
generally  able  to  procure  them  in  the  vicinity  where  the  drill  is  operating. 

Q. — Do  I  understand,  in  addition  to  the  35  per  ceni.,  that  you  credit  them 
with  wear  and  tear  ?  A. — No.  We  charge  them  for  all  breakages  and  wear  and 
tear  while  we  are  working  for  them. 

Q. — What  is  Mr.  E.  T.  Corkill's  general  occupation?  A. — Mr.  Corkill 
is  Inspector  of  Mines  for  the  whole  of  the  Province.  He  travels  from  one  end 
to  the  other.  He  is  constantly  travelling,  inspecting  the  mines,  investigating 
accidents,  and  generally  performing  his  duties  as  Inspector  of  Mines. 

Q. — What  portion  of  time  is  he  out  of  the  city  on  business  connected  with 
his  work  ?  A. — Taking  the  period  of  ten  months  last  year,  he  would  be  out  of 
the  city  probably  three-quarters  of  his  time. 

Q. — I  suppose  he  does  not  get  home  Sundays?    A. — No. 

Q. — You  think  then,  three-quarters  of  his  time  he  is  out  of  the  city  in 
connection  with  his  duty  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — What  would  he  be  doing  in  Winnipeg?  A. — He  goes  from  Port 
Arthur  to  Winnipeg  and  comes  back  on  the  Canadian  Northern  to  inspect  the 
mines  at  Atikokan,  along  the  line  of  the  Canadian  Northern,  which  is  much 
cheaper  than  coming  by  way  of  Kenora. 

Q. — You  have  to  pay  regular  transportation  for  these  trips  ?  A. — Yes,  we 
do  not  even  get  transportation  on  the  T.  &.  N.  O. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:  The  T.  &  N.  O.  charges  the  Department  the  same 
rate  as  it  charges  anyone  else. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q. — Can  you  explain  the  item  on  page  416,  G.  K.  Mickle,  travelling  ex- 
penses, $805.50?  A. — Mr.  Mickle  is  Mine  Assessor,  and  his  duties  are  defined 
under  the  Supplementary  Revenue  Act.  He  looks  after  the  revenue  that  arises 
under  that  Act.  He  has  to  inspect  the  books  of  the  mines  and.  mining  companies 
and  check  their  operation.  He  is  also  charged  with  the  duty  of  looking  after 


80  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  1910 


royalties  payable  to  the  Crown  by  certain  mining  companies,  such  as  the  Crown 
Reserve,  which  pays  10  per  cent,  on  the  ore  mined,  and  the  Temiskaming  and 
Hudson  Bay.  These,  with  his  other  duties,  call  him  out  of  the  city  a  great  deal, 
and  his  travelling  expenses  disclosed  by  this  item  cover  the  full  period. 

Q. — What  portion  of  the  year  would  he  be  out  of  the  city  in  connection 
with  his  duties  ?  A. — About  half  of  his  time. 

Q. — About  five  months  ?    A.— Yes. 

Q. — Say  125  days  at  $5  per  day  ?  A. — He  is  away  a  great  deal,  and  has 
to  travel  from  ono  end  of  the  Province  to  the  other. 

The  witness  was  discharged. 


Mr.  S.  A.  ARMSTRONG,  recalled  and  examined. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q. — There  is  an  item  on  page  18,  Public  Accounts,  Dorien  Plating  Manu- 
facturing Co.,  Auto  tags,  $4,404.40,  and  the  Gutta  Percha  Eubber  Co.,  Auto  tags, 
$950;  can  you  explain  these  items?  A. — These  are  tags  that  we  purchased 
under  contract  at  95  cents  apiece.  The  letters  cost  $1.50  apiece.  Where  a 
marker  is  lost  and  has  to  be  replaced  we  charge  $1.50. 

Q. — And  the  cost  is  what  ?    A. — Ninety-five  cents  each. 

Q. — And  the  next  charge  you  mentioned?  A. — The  next  charge  is  $1.50. 
You  can  understand  where  the  rubber  company  are  manufacturing  a  large  num- 
ber of  tags  tlio  price  is  cheaper  than  when  one  single  tag  is  called  for,  and  thus 
$1.50  is  charged  for  one  single  tag.  When  a  motorist  has  lost  a  tag  we  require 
that  the  tag  be  replaced  through  the  Provincial  Secretary's  Ifepartment. 

Q. — What  do  you  receive  for  granting  permits  ?  A. — Two  dollars  for  the 
annual  permit  and  $2  for  the  two  markers.  The  numbers  are  given  to  auto- 
mobile owners,  but  the  letter  is  a  different  thing.  The  lettered  tags  are  what 
are  given  to  manufacturers  and  automobile  dealers  for  demonstration  purposes. 

Hon.  Mr.  HANNA:  The  letter  is  used  by  manufacturers  and  dealers  to 
demonstrate  the  machines. 

The  CHAIRMAN. 

Q. — These  tags  are  bought  by  tender  ?  A. — Yes,  they  are  purchased  from 
the  Dorien  Plating  'Manufacturing  Company  and  the  Gutta  Percha  Rubber 
Company. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q.~You  ask  for  tenders?  A. — I  suppose  tenders  were  called  for  in  the 
first  instance. 

Q. — You  do  not  know  how  many  tenders  were  received  ?  A. — I  cannot  say 
just  how  many. 

Q. — How  many  tags  would  $4,404.40  represent.  A. — It  would  average 
about  98  cents  a  tag. 

Q. — Then  you  would  be  buying  about  4,000  tags  ?    A. — Yes. 


Edw.  VIL  APPEXDIX  Xo.  1.  81 


Q. — On  the  same  basis  you  would  be  buying  about  another  thousand  from 
the  Gutta  Percha  Eubber  Company?  A. — Yes.  I  think  we  issued  last  year 
something  like  2,500  new  markers,  but  I  think  this  purchase  which  we  are  con- 
sidering is  mostly  composed  of  tags  which  were  bought  to  replace  those  that 
were  lost. 

By  Mr.  MUSGEOVE. 

Q. — You  have  a  number  of  tags  on  hand  yet  ?    A. — Yes. 

Hon.  Mr.  MATHESON:  There  is  a  revenue  of  over  $12,000  from  auto- 
mobile permits. 

Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.)  :    I  would  like  to  see  the  tenders. 

Hon.  Mr.  HANNA  :  T  think  I  can  explain  this.  Mr.  Mulvey,  who  is  now  in 
Ottawa,  took  the  matter  up  with  the  Dunlop  Tire  and  Rubber  Goods  Company 
and  the  Canadian  Rubber  Company.  He  got  their  prices  and  two  sample  tags 
which  .looked  very  much  alike.  Then  Mr.  Mulvey  made  some  investigation.  I 
do  not  know  whether  they  were  at  the  laboratory  or  if  it  was  something  practical 
with  the  engineers  down  stairs,  but  the  result  was  that  the  white  ran  into  the 
black  on  one  tag  under,  certain  treatment  which  was  as  near  as  they  could  get  to 
the  treatment  the  tags  would  get  on  the  machines.  It  was  a  poor  tag  and  they 
endeavoured  to  secure  a  material  which  would  always  distinguish  the  white  and 
the  black.  I  think  the  prices  were  very  much  the  same. 

Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.)  :     But  you  have  tenders  now? 

WITNESS  :    I  think  so. 

Q. — I  understand  the  tags  cost  you  95  cents  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — What  do  you  get  for  them  ?    A. — We  got  one  dollar  each. 

Q. — Where  does  the  revenue  come  from  ?    A. — From  the  license. 

Q. — You  do  not  make  much  on  the  tags,  which  cost  95  cents  and  you  sell 
them  for  a  dollar.  A. — No,  we  do  not  try  to  make  a  profit  on  the  tags,  but  we 
charge  for  the  tag  in  addition  to  the  license. 

The  witness  was  discharged. 


Mr.  S.  D.  MADDEN,  called,  sworn  and  examined. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q. — What  is  your  name?    A. — S.  D.  Madden. 

Q. — You  live  where  ?    A. — I  have  resided  in  Cobalt  for  the  last  four  years. 

Q. — You  tendered  for  some  property  on  the  Gillies  Limit?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — How  many  locations  did  you  buy  there  ?  A. — I  have  tendered  at 
several  sales. 

Q. — How  many  lots  did  you  buy  at  the  several  Government  sales  ?  A. — I 
bought  for  myself  and  for  parties  interested  seven  pieces  in  all.  I  tendered  for 
a  number  more,  but  did  not  get  them.  At  the  first  sale  I  bought  two. 

Q. — Did  they  appear  in  your  name  as  purchaser  ?  What  was  the  first  one 
you  bought?  A. — I  think  it  was  A  12  and  A  13.  I  bought  A  9  at  the  second 
sale  and  A  49  at  the  last  sale. 


APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  1910 


Q. — That  is,  you  bought  for  yourself  ?  A. — No,  I  bought  them  for  myself 
and  others. 

Q. — You  got  the  first  of  these  in  June  ?    A. — Yes,  on  June  15th. 

Q. — That  was  the  time  the  tenders  were  received.    A. — Yes. 

Q.— And  you  paid  $2,500  for  A  13  ?  A.— I  think  A  13  was  $2,500,  and 
A  ] 2  was  $2,750. 

Q.— What  did  you  pay  for  A  49  ?    A.— $7,000. 

Q.— That  cost  you  a  great  deal  more  ?  A. — Things  were  looking  better 
then. 

Q. — And  A  9  ?    A. — I  bought  that  at  the  second  sale. 

Q. — What  did  you  pay  for  that?    A. — $2,500. 

Q. — You  say  these  were  not  actually  bought  on  your  own  account.  Have 
any  of  these  properties  been  sold  ?  A. — Yes,  I  have  sold  them  to  other  parties. 

Q.— Which  did  you  sell  ?    A.— A  12  and  A  13. 

Q. — Have  they  changed  hands  to  your  knowledge  since  then  ?    A. — "No,  sir. 

Q — Can  you  tell  us  what  was  paid  for  A  12  and  A  13  ?    A. — $30,000. 

Q.— Each  one  ?     A.— Both. 

Q. — $30,000  for  the  two  locations.     A. — Yes. 

Q. — I  suppose  you  got  cash  or  the  equivalent.     A. — The  equivalent. 

Q. — Was  it  good  security.     A. — It  was  ultimately  cash. 

By  Mr.  MUSGROVE. 

Q. — Was  any  work  done  on  them  in  the  meantime  ?  A. — There  was  a  great 
deal  of  work  done  on  the  adjoining  property  in  the  meantime. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q. — You  got  $30,000  for  these  two  limits  for  which  you  paid  $5,250? 
A.— Yes. 

Q. — And  you  got  cash  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — How  long  a  time  after  the  purchase  was  this  sale  made  ?  Just  as  near 
as  you  can  guess  ?  A. — It  was  some  time  in  July.  I  do  not  know  exactly,  but 
I  think  it  was  about  thirty  days  afterwards. 

Q. — Was  your  idea  after  you  made  the  sale  that  you  might  have  got  more 
money  ?  A. — My  idea  is,  when  these  lands  were  bought  we  spent  a  good  part  of 
the  time  going  over  them.  Between  the  time  of  buying  and  selling  there  had 
been  a  great  deal  of  work  done  in  the  locality,  and  the  valuable  vein  was  dis- 
covered on  the  adjoining  property,  which  made  our  property  worth  a  good  deal 
more  money. 

Q. — Do  you  say  a  certain  amount  of  expenditure  was  made  on  this  prop- 
erty ?  A. — No,  we  simply  prospected  them.  We  really  did  practically  no  work 
011  them. 

Q. — You  really  spent  no  money  on  12  and  13?  A. — No,  except  on  pros- 
pecting, but  no  development  work  was  done.  I  had  a  man  who  spent  a  guud 
many  days  there  after  we  bought  them,  but  we  did  not  do  any  mining. 

Q. — In  other  words,  you  simply  spent  your  time  in  looking  over  these  and 
the  other  locations  ?  A. — We  looked  principally  over  these  two. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  83 


Q. — Were  there  men  in  there  before  the  sale  looking  over  the  limit  ?  A. — 
There  were  a  trreat  many  men  there  before  the  sale  looking  over  the  limit. 

Q. — What  would  be  your  estimate  of  the  total  expenditure  made,  and  what 
would  be  chargeable  to  these  two  locations  ?  A. — It  would  not  be  a  large  amount. 
One  of  the  men  interested  in  buying  spent  his  own  time  on  the  Limit,  but  there 
was  no  actual  work  done. 

Q. — What  would  you  say  would  be  the  value  of  your  time  and  the  time  of 
your  expert  engineer  whom  you  engaged  in  looking  over  these  properties  ?  You 
spent  how  much  of  your  time  looking  over  the  properties.  A. — I  spent  con- 
siderable time  before  we  forwarded  the  bid. 

Q. — What  I  am  getting  at  now  is  the  amount  of  money  you  spent  on  12 
and  13  previous  to  your  sale  to  the  second  party.  A. — We  did  not  spend  very 
much  money  ^on  them,  probably  $50. 

Q. — $50  or  $100  ?    A. — Something  like  that. 

Q. — You  have  not  sold  A  9  or  A  49  yet  ?    A. — No. 

Q. — I  suppose  you  are  offering  them  for  sale  ?  A. — They  could  be  sold  at 
a  price. 

Q. — You  would  not  take  what  you  paid  for  them  ?    A. — "No. 

Q. — What  price  would  you  take  for  A  49  ? 

The  CHAIRMAN:     That  is  not  evidence. 

Q.— You  still  own  A.  9  ?    A.— Yes. 

Q. — Do  you  know  A  6  ?    A. — In  a  general  way. 

Q. — Have  you  seen  it?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — This  appears  to  have  been  bought  by  one  George  E.  Martel.  Do  you 
know  who  owns  that  property  ?  A. — I  do  not  know.  I  only  know  it  is  reported 
to  have  been  bought  by  Martel. 

Q. — Have  you  heard  about  anyone  else  being  connected  with  the  property  ? 
A. — I  have  heard  them  talking  about  someone  else. 

Q. — It  is  said  that  A  6  is  owned  by  Mr.  O'Brien  ?  A. — I  have  heard  them 
say  so. 

Q. — You  do  not  know  more  than  that  ?    A. — No. 

Q. — Have  you  heard  whether  this  land  has  been  sold  ?    A. — No. 

Q. — Now  you  have  said  that  you  only  bought  four  lots  in  your  own  name, 
and  of  these  you  only  sold  two,  and  you  have  the  other  two  still  on  hand  ?  A. — 
There  were  only  four  which  appeared  in  my  name,  but  I  bought  seven  alto- 
gether for  different  parties. 

Q. — The  balance  you  have  you  are  not  trying  hard  to  sell,  even  at  a 
marginal  advance  ?  A. — We  still  have  two  lots  on  hand. 

Q. — Well,  what  you  bought  for  $5,250  you  sold  for  $30,000  and  got  your 
cash  in  a  month  or  so  ?  A. — Yes. 

iBy  Mr.  McGABRY. 

Q. — You  sold  these  two  lots,  A  12  and  A  13,  to  J.  H.  Waldman,  who  was 
the  owner  of  A  9  and  A  23  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — What  else  did  he  own  ?    A. — He  owned  A  10  and  A  22. 


84  APPENDIX  No.  1.  •  1910 


Q. — And  the  other  two  lots  which  you  sold  to  him  are  alongside  ?  A. — No. 
One  was  between  the  two  and  the  other  at  the  end,  which  formed  a  square. 

Q. — At  the  time  you  sold  these  two  lots  to  him  I  understand  they  made  a 
discovery  on  A  22  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Have  you  been  on  these  lands  you  sold  to  Waldman  since  the  sale? 
A.— Yes. 

Q. — Waldman  did  some  trenching  ?    A. — Yes,  a  great  deal  of  work. 

Q. — And  did  they  make  any  discoveries?  A. — He  found  no  silver,  but 
some  trace  of  cobalt. 

Q. — That  is,  he  found  some  calcite  or  smaltite  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — There  was  no  ore  produced  ?    A.  No. 

Q. — There  are  a  great  many  more  lots  in  Cobalt  which  would  justify  pros- 
pecting, as  these  two?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — And  they  can  be  obtained  by  merely  locating  and  paying  at  the  rate 
of  $3.50  per  acre  ?  A. — Mines  worth  millions  to-day  were  got  that  way. 

Q. — You  know  the  Kerr  Lake  Mine  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — It  was  capitalized  at  $3,000,000,  and  it  is  considered  to  be  worth 
$9,000,000  to-day  ?  A.— Yes. 

Q. — And  you  know  it  was  got  for  $3.50  per  acre  ?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — And  you  went  and  bought  these  lots  simply  as  a  matter  of  speculation  ? 
A. — Yes,  they  are  all  doing  it. 

Q. — In  this  case,  by  reason  of  the  fact  that  the  discovery  was  made  on  the 
Waldman,  the  purchase  which  you  made  for  $5,250  became  much  more  valuable  ? 
A. — Yes,  and  to-day  they  are  more  valuable  still. 

Q. — As  far  as  you  know,  there  has  been  no  ore  shipped  from  the  two  lots 
which  you  sold  ?  A. — As  far  as  I  know  there  has  been  no  ore  found  on  them. 

Q. — Is  it  not  a  fact  that  Mr.  Waldman,  with  his  men,  trenched  both  lots, 
north  and  south,  east  and  west,  covering  both  thoroughly  ?  A. — I  think  he  has. 

Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.")  :     What  depth  to  the  rock. 

By  Mr.  McGAERY. 

Q. — Were  you  at  the  Waldman  discovery  shortly  after  it  was  made.  A. — 
Yes. 

Q. — It  was  a  vein  that  might  not  have  been  found  for  years  ?  A. — The  lot 
had  been  trenched,  but  if  they  had  not  happened  to  come  across  that  place  the 
vein  would  not  have  been  found. 

Q. — Is  it  not  a  fact  that  for  years  work  has  been  done  on  lots  in  the  district 
and  for  the  first  time  discoveries  have  been  made  by  a  lucky  prospector  ?  A. — 
I  have  seen  veins  found  after  the  property  had  been  abandoned. 

Q. — Is  it  not  a  fact  that  the  discoveries  on  the  Waldman  and  O'Brien 
properties  have  been  made  since  that  portion  of  the  limit  has  been  sold  by  the 
Government  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — You  are  familiar  with  the  camp.  You  have  been  in  Cobalt  for  some 
time.  A. — Yes,  for  a  long  time. 

Q. — And  you  had  been  dealing  in  properties  throughout  the  Cobalt  district  ? 
A.— Yes. 


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Q. — And  is  it  not  a  fact  that  when  discoveries  of  any  kind  are  made  it 
becomes  common  gossip  of  the  camp  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — There  is  no  other  producing  property  on  the  limit  which  has  been  sold, 
outside  the  Waldman  and  O'Brien  property.  A. — None  that  I  know  of. 

Q. — And  the  Waldman  and  O'Brien  properties  have  not  yet  produced  any 
ore  which  has  been  shipped  ?  A. — Well,  I  do  not  think  they  have,  but  Waldman 
has  a  shipment  nearly  ready. 

Q. — Do  you  know  how  far  down  they  are  with  the  Waldman  shaft  ?  A. — 
Only  as  they  tell  me. 

Q. — Have  you  been  on  the  property  lately  ?  A. — I  was  about  three  weeks 
ago. 

Q. — Were  they  down  about  a  hundred  feet  then  ?    A. — I  think  they  were. 

Q. — How  much  ore  had  then  been  taken  out.  A. — Oh,  I  saw  a  good  pile, 
but  do  not  know  how  much  exactly.  It  was  silver  and  cobalt. 

By  Mr.  CLARK  (Centre  Bruce.) 

Q. — You  said  you  spent  a  good  deal  of  time  and  money  in  prospecting 
before  you  put  in  your  tender  ?  A< — We  had  men  go  over  the  whole  property. 

Q. — You  said  there  were  a  number  prospecting?  A. — Yes,  there  were  a 
large  number  of  people  on  the  property. 

Q. — Anyone  else  have  the  same  privilege  ?    A. — Yes. 

Q. — If  the  criticisms  made  that  such  opportunity  were  not  given  and  the 
sale  was  brought  on  hurriedly,  and  people  did  not  have  an  ample  opportunity 
of  examining  the  property,  there  is  nothing  in  it?  A. — No,  there  was  no 
attempt  to  sell  before  everybody  had  an  opportunity. 

Mr.  CLARKE   (Northumberland.) 

Q. — My  hon.  friend  asked  you  about  the  depth  of  the  shaft  on  the  Waldman 
mine,  and  how  much  ore  had  been  shipped.  Mr.  Waldman  did  not  get  his 
property  until  July  or  August?  A. — He  got  it  in  June.  Waldman  was  the 
quickest  man,  and  went  to  work  at  once.  He  put  a  large  gang  on  the  land  to 
strip  it. 

Q. — Mr.  Waldman  is  getting  machinery  to  work  and  is  losing  no  time  to 
get  his  ore  out  and  shipped  ?  A. — It  is  wondjerful  the  amount  of  work  he  has 
put  upon  the  property.  Waldman  went  in  and  spent  a  great  deal  of  time  and 
money. 

Mr.   McGARRY. 

Q. — I  understand  he  has  a  lot  of  ore  up  at  the  present  time?     A. — Yes. 

Q. — And  as  far  as  you  know  it  is  a  fair  showing?  A. — Yes,  there  is 
some  very  good  ore. 

Mr.  CLARKE   (Northumberland.) 

Q. — Well,  what  time  was  the  discovery  made  on  the  Waldman  property? 
A. — I  think  it  was  about  thirty  days  after  the  time  he  bought  it.  I  could  tell 
more  correctly  but  I  have  no  record  with  me. 

Q. — When  you  bid  for  your  property  you  thought  it  was  in  a  likely 
locality  ?  A. — I  bought  that  property  because  the  indications  were  good. 


86  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Q. — -You  thought  it  was  in  a  good  district,  and  as  good  a  location  as  in 
any  part  of  the  Gillies  Limit?  A. — I  thought  it  was  a  good  place,  but  still 
there  was  nothing  to  give  us  any  indication  except  the  rock  formation. 

Q. — Do  you  think  the  sale  was  properly  advertised?  A. — If  you  were 
up  there  before  the  sale  and  saw  the  number  of  prospectors  you  would  have 
thought  is  was  pretty  well  advertised. 

Q. — Six  months  or  a  year  ago  the  Gillies  Limit  was  said  to  be  a  rich 
district  ?  A. — It  was  said  to  be. 

Q. — As  rich  as  any  valuable  district  with  mines  in  it  ?  A. — There  were 
people  who  thought  so. 

Q. — What  did  you  think  about  it?  A. — I  thought  it  was  a  promising 
property.  , 

Q. — As  good  as  anything  you  knew  of?     A. — As  good  as  anything  else. 

By  Mr.  MCGARRY. 

Q. — But  the  surface  was  such  that  you  could  get  practically  no  information 
by  simply  looking  at  it  ?  A. — Yes. 

Q. — Did  you  know  of  the  Waldman  discovery  previous  to  the  time  of 
selling  your  land?  A. — No. 

JQ. — Hence,  if  you  had  known  of  it,  you  would  not  have  sold  for  the  price 
you  did?  A. — No. 

Q. — So  up  to  the  time  you  sold  you  did  not  know  of  the  discovery? 
A.— No. 

Q. — You  got  $30,000  without  that  knowledge?     A. — Yes. 

By  Mr.  CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q. — If  you  held  your  property  for  a  year  you  might  not  have  got  what 
you  paid  for  it  I  A. — Not  without  a  discovery. 

By  Mr.  SHILLINGTON. 

Q. — It's  a  fact  that  some  of  our  most  eminent  mining  engineers  turned 
the  whole  proposition  down  ?  A'.1 — We  all  know  that. 

By  Mr   CLARKE  (Northumberland.) 

Q. — Has  this  Waldman  property  a  capital  stock?    A. — Yes. 

Q.— Of  what  amount  ?     A.— $2,500,000  I  think. 

Q. —  Have  you  any  idea  as  to  the  extent  to  which  the  stock  has  been  sold 
A. — I  do  not  know,  perhaps  it  was  increased  greatly  after  the  discovery. 

The  witness  was  discharged  and  the  Committee  adjourned. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  87 


EXHIBIT  A. 

Statement   of   moneys   expended   by   Mr.    Sothmann    on    the  two    cars, 
"Mitchell"  and  "Oldsmobile." 

Improvements,  as  per  voucher   $373  63 

Carburetor,  tires  repaired  and  fixing  up 100  00 

Labor  of  Machinist  (2  months)    120  00 

Speedometer,  pumps,  jack 75  00 

Interrupter    18  00 


$686  63 
March  4th,  1909. 

1  Pierce,  36  h.p.,  6  cylinder $5,200 

1  Olds,  60  h.p.,  6  cylinder,  7  people 4,300 

1  Eussell,  45  h.p.,  4  cylinder 4,250 

1  Mitchell,  36  h.p.,  4  cylinder   1,650 

1  Olds,  36  h.p.,  4  cylinder 1,600 


$17,000 

March  4th,  1909. 

1  Stoddard,  45  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  people $3,900 

1  Eussell,  45  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  (7)  people 4,500 

1  Olds,  60  h.p.,  6  cylinder,  7  people 4,300 

1  Mitchell,  36  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  people 1,650 

1  Olds,  36  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  people 1,600 

Gas,  oil  tank,  tools 305 


$16,255 
March  4th,  1909. 

1  Pierce  Arrow,  36  h.p.,  6  cylinder,  4  people,  complete  eq $5,200 

1  Stoddard  Dayton,  45  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  people,  complete  eq.   ....  3,900 

1  -Eussell,  45  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  (7)  people,  complete  eq 4,500 

1  Mitchell,  36  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  people,  complete  eq 1,650 

1  Olds,  36  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  people,  complete  eq 1,600 

Gas  and  oil  tank,  $175 ;  tools,  $55,  $75    305 


$17,155 


88  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


EXHIBIT  B. 

Excerpt,  from  minutes  of  meeting  of  the  Commission  held  March  4th, 
1909. 

A  meeting  of  the  Commission  was  held  on  Thursday,  March  4th,  1909, 
at  the  office  of  the  Chairman,  Parliament  Buildings,  there  being  present  the 
Chairman  and  Commissioners  Hendrie  and  McNaught. 

The  purchase  of  automobiles  for  the  use  of  the  Commission  and  staff  was 
taken  up  and  carefully  considered.  The  following  list  was  decided  upon, 
except  that  prices  on  the  Pierce^  Olds  and  Russell  be  reduced  5  per  cent,  on 
the  total  price  set  out. 


1  Pierce,  36  h.p.,  6  cylinder $5,200 

1  Olds,  60  h.p.,  6  cylinder   4,300 

1  Russell,  45  h.p.,  4  cylinder    4,500 

1  Mitchell,  36  h.p.,  4  cylinder   1,650 

1  Olds,   36  h.p.,  4  cylinder    1,600 


$17,250 


March  4th,  1909. 

1  Pierce,  36  h.p.,  6  cylinder $5,200 

1  'Olds,  60  h.p.,  6  cylinder,  7  people   4,300 

1  Russell,  45  h.p.,  4  cylinder   4,250 

1  Mitchell,  36  h.p.,  4  cylinder   1,650 

1  Olds,   36  h.p.,  4  cylinder    1,600 


$17,000 


March  4th,  1,909. 

1  Stoddard,  45  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  people $3,900 

1  Russell,  45  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  (7)  people 4,500 

1  Olds,  60  h.p.,  "6  cylinder,  7  people 4,300 

1  Mitchell,  36  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  people 1,650 

1  Olds,  36  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  people 1,600 

Gas,  oil  tank,  tools 305 

$16,255 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  89 


March  4th,  1909. 

1  Pierce  Arrow,  36  h.p.,  6  cylinder,  4  people,  complete  eq $5,200 

1  Stoddard  Dayton,  45  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  people,  complete  eq 3,900 

1  Russell,  45  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  (7)  people,  complete  eq 4,500 

1  Mitchell,  36  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  people,  complete  eq 1,650 

1  Olds,  36  h.p.,  4  cylinder,  5  people,  complete  eq 1,600 

Gas  and  oil  tank,  $175 ;  tools,  $55,  $75   ; 305 


$17,155 


EXHIBIT   C. 

The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited, 

Toronto,  Ont,  Feb.  16th,  1909. 

P.  W.  Sothmann,  Esq., 

Chief  Engineer,  Hydro-Electric  Commission,  Toronto. 

Dear  Sir: — 

Confining  our  conversation  to  even  date,  we  can  supply  you  with  one 
48  h.p.,  6  cylinder  Pierce  Suburban  or  Limousine  car,  with  equipment  as  per 
catalogue,  and  enumerated  in  our  letter  of  the  llth  inst.  This  includes  two 
extra  tires,  and,  in  fact,  everything  that  is  requisite  for  the  running  of  the 
car,  for  the  sum  of  $7,875. 

Referring  to  the  Dayton  45  h.p.,  we  can  supply  you  with  a  Dayton  45 
h.p.  car,  with  full  equipment,  two  extra  tires,  top,  glass  front  and  speedometer, 
for  $3,900. 

The  enclosed  car  would  be  very  convenient  in  bad  weather,  as  it  could 
be  used  under  all  conditions. 

Yours  truly, 

AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co.,  LTD. 


P.S. — We  have  only  two  -Pierce  cars  left  of  our  190.9  allotment,  one  30 
and  one  48.  We  wired  yesterday  for  two  extra  cars,  but  cannot  get  them,  as 
all  Pierce  cars  are  sold  for  the  season  of  1909. 

"W.  S.  S.» 


90  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  1910 

EXHIBIT   D. 

The  Oldsmobile  Co.  of  Canada/  Limited. 

Toronto,  Canada, 

Feb.  22nd,  1909. 

Mr.  Peter  W.  Sothmann, 

Chief  Engineer,  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission,  City. 

Dear  Sir:— 

In  reference  to  our  conversation  on  Saturday  last,  I  take  pleasure  in 
giving  you  the  information  asked  for  at  that  time  regarding  prices,  etc.  The 
two  cars  in  which  you  were  interested  are  known  as  our  Model  "  D,"  which  is 
of  the  4-cylinder  type,  and  our  Model  "  Z,"  which  is  of  the  6-cylinder  type. 
Our  list  prices  on  these  cars  without  equipment,  such  as  top,  front,  etc.,  are 
$3,000.00  and  $4,750.00  respectively,  and  these  same  cars  list  in  the  States 
at  $2,750.00  and  $4,250.00,  so  that  you  see  our  regular  selling  list  is  only 
about  10  per  cent,  increase,  against  the  35  per  cent,  duty  which  you  would 
have  to  pay  on  American-made  cars. 

The  writer  understands  that  you  want  any  cars  which  you  purchase 
equipped  with  the  following  accessories : — Top,  wind  shield,  speedometer,  clock, 
tire  brackets,  two  extra  tires  with  cases  for  same,  and  tire-skidding  chains. 
These  extras  list  as  follows: — 

Top    $125  00 

Front    65  00 

Speedometer    % 25  00 

Clock    28  00 

Tire  irons   20  00 

Tire  covers 10  00 

Two  extra-  tires,  shoes  and  tubes.  ...  92  00 

Tire  chains   13  00. 

Magneto    150  00 


$528  00 

On  the  cars  mentioned  above,  with  the  extras  named,  we  beg  to  quote  you 
prices  as  follows:— For  the  Model  "  D,"  $3,000;  and  for  the  Model  "  Z," 
$4,300.  These  prices  are  considerably  below  anything  we  have  ever  con- 
sidered before,  .believing  that  the  fact  of  such  prominent  engineers  as  yourself 
and  associates  having  selected  the  Oldsmobile  as  being  the  car  most  suitable 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  91 


for  your  work  will  more  than  repay  us  for  any  monetary  loss  in  the  advertising 
which  will  accrue  therefrom. 

We  do  not  believe  that  it  is  necessary  to  give  you  any  information  or 
details  regarding  the  car  at  this  time,  inasmuch  as  I  have  gone  over  this 
thoroughly  with  you  in  our  conversations,  and  you  are  presently  acquainted 
with  our  product  of  a  couple  of  years  ago,  inasmuch  as  you  are  driving  one 
of  our  previous, models.  Needless  to  say.  we  have  greatly  improved  our  car 
since  that  time,  and  are  now  ready  at  all  times  to  go  into  detailed  comparisons 
with  any  automobile  on  the  market,  at  whatever  price  it  may  be  sold. 

Trusting  that  the  writer  may  have  an  opportunity  of  going  before  your 
directors  and  personally  outline  our  product,  I  beg  to  remain, 


Yours  very  truly, 


W.  L.  STONEBURN, 

City  Sales  Manager. 


EXHIBIT   E. 
Canada  Cycle  &  Motor  Co.,  Limited, 

Toronto   Junction,   March    3rd,   1909. 

Hon.  Adam  Beck, 

c/o  Queen's  Hotel,  Toronto,  Ont. 

My  Dear  Mr.  Beck: — 

Following  our  conversation  this  afternoon  I  wish  to  confirm,  in  writing, 
a  few  of  the  points  discussed  with  reference  to  motor  cars  for  the  use  of  the 
Commission.  I  have  already  furnished  your  chief  engineer,  Mr.  Sothmann, 
with  detailed  specifications  of  the  two  cars  I  recommended  for  your  service. 
The  price  of  these  cars,  with  all  the  special  equipment  required,  is  $4,750.00 
and  $2,850.00  respectively.  I  gave  him  a  price  of  $4,500.00  and  $2,650.00, 
and  am  not  able  to  lower  this  price  and  (maintain  the  quality  of  our  cars  and 
provide  for  the  attention  that  we  give  to  our  customers.  Mr.  E.  B.  Ryckman, 
first .  vice-president  of  our  company,  however,  authorized  me  to  state  that  we 
would  put  in  the  two  cars  fully  equipped,  as  shown  in  the  appended  sheet,  for 
$7,000.00. 

As  Canadian  manufacturers  we  particularly  desire  to  see  our  car  selected 
for  the  Commission's  own  work,  but  if  selected  for  any  work,  I  have  this  to 
say  with  regard  to  our  guarantee : — 


92  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


That  we  will  not  only  supply  free  any  part  that  may  break  from  any  cause 
except  accident  or  abuse,  but  will  replace  such  part  free  of  charge  for  either 
material  or  work,  at  our  factory  or  any  of  our  branch  houses,  within  the  period 
of  one  year. 

We  feel  positive  of  the  merits  of  our  goods,  and  are  prepared  to  stand 
behind  our  cars  to  the  fullest  extent.  If  they  are  selected  for  the  use  of  the 
Commission,  I  will  undertake  that  the  cars  will  be  a  source  of  satisfaction  to 
you,  as  we  are  determined  to  make  them  a  standing  advertisement  for  ourselves. 

I  beg  to  remain, 

Yours  faithfully, 

T.  B.  RUSSELL, 

General  Manager. 


EXHIBIT    F. 

The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited, 

Toronto,  Ont,  Feb.  llth,  1910. 

P.  W.  Sothmann,  Esq., 

Chief  Engineer,  Hydro-Electric  Commission,  Toronto. 

Dear  Sir: — 

Confirming  our  conversation  of  even  date,  we  will  supply  you  with  a 
Model  "A"  Stoddard  Dayton,  35  h.p.,  4-cylinder  car,  equipped  with  cape 
top,  plate-glass  wind  shield,  60-mile  speedometer,  full  kit  of  tools,  repair  kit 
and  tire  pump,  and  two  extra  tires,  Bosch  magneto,  two  head  lights,  gas  burn- 
ing; two  side  lights,  oil  burning;  one  tail  light,  oil  burning,  for  the  sum  of 
$3,200,  f.o.b.  Toronto. 

The  Pierce  and  Dayton  cars  are  each  leaders  in  their  class.  We  are  quite 
satisfied,  however,  that  the  Pierce  car  would  be  the  better  car  for  the  strenuous 
work  for  which  you  will  use  it. 


Yours  truly, 


AUTOMOBILE  &  StrrPLr  Co.,  LTD. 
Per  W.  S.  Smith. 


Edu-.  VII.  APPIvXDIX  Xo.  1.  93 


EXHIBIT  G. 

Canada  Cycle  &  Motor  Company,  Limited. 

.     Toronto  Junction,  Feb.  23rd,  1909. 

Mr.  P.  W.  Sothmann, 

Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission, 

Bay  and  Richmond  Streets,  Toronto. 

Dear  Sir:— 

Following  our  conversation  last  night,  we  have  pleasure  now  in  submitting 
herewith  our  proposition  for  equipping  the  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission 
with  automobiles  for  their  service.  Such  equipment  to  consist  of  two  cars ;  one 
a  "  Russell "  50  h.p.  car,  as  described  in  our  catalogue,  copy  of  which  we  sub- 
mit herewith.  If  any  further  information  is  required  with  regard  to  the  cars, 
we  will  be  pleased  to  furnish  you  with  blue  prints,  etc.,  although  we  believe 
that  your  engineers  have  been  pretty  thoroughly  through  our  works  and  over 
the  design  of  our  car,  and  are  familiar  with  its  construction.  The  equipment 
included  with  the  two  cars  would  be  as  follows : — 

Model  "  K  "  50  h.p.  touring  car,  seated  to  carry  seven  persons,  including 
driver,  two  of  the  seats  to  be  detachable. 

Wheel  base,  122  inches. 

Wheels,  3 Gin.  diameter,  with  4%in.  tires  in  front  and  5in.  in  rear. 

Large  head  lights  and  generator. 

Folding  glass  front. 

Extension  cape  cart  rod  top,  with  storm  curtains. 

Trunk  rack  on  the  real. 

Clock. 

Speedometer. 

Double  ignition,  including  batteries  and  Eisemann  magneto. 

Tire  irons. 

Two  extra  tires,  complete  with  tubes  and  waterproof  jackets  for  same. 

Pair  of  chains — for  rear  wheels. 
The  same  to  be  delivered  to  you  complete  for  the  sum  of  $4,750.00. 

Model  "  H  "  30  h.p.  touring  car,  llOin.  wheel  base,  with  seating  capacity 
for  five  people,  equipped  with— 

24in.  x  4in.  tires. 

Headlights  and  generator. 

Folding  glass  front. 

Speedometer. 

Clock. 

Chains  for  rear  wheels. 

Extension  cape  cart  top,  with  storm  curtains. 


94  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Tire  irons. 

Two  extra  tires,  with  tubes  and  jackets. 
Double  ignition,  including  batteries  and  Eisemann  magneto. 
To  be  delivered  complete,  as  above,  for  the  sum  of  $2,850.00. 

In  submitting  the  above  proposition,  we  do  so  believing  that  the  cars  will 
be  entirely  suitable  for  your  service,  and;  we  guarantee  them  for  that  work. 

In  connection  with  the  guarantee  we  would  point  out  that,  where  the 
ordinary  manufacturer's  guarantee  provides  for  free  replacement  of  parts,  this 
leaves  the  work  of  installing  the  parts  to  be  done  by  the  owner.  Being  Cana- 
dian manufacturers  and  having  branches  in  both  Hamilton  and  Toronto,  we  are 
prepared  to  carry  out  any  guarantee  work,  such  as  supplying  the  parts  and 
doing  the  work,  at  either  of  these  branches,  free  of  charge. 

We  are  really  the  only  firm  manufacturing  automobiles  in  Canada,  as 
other  firms,  similarly  engaged,  import  the  whole  chassis  in  almost  complete 
from  from  the  United  States,  and  simply  assemble  the  bodies  and  wheels  on 
them  here. 

If  there  are  any  points  about  our  car  on  which  you  will  require  any 
further  information,  we  shall  be  glad  to  give  it  to  you,  or  if  you  desire  to  con- 
sult with  the  owners  of  types  of  cars  on  which  we  are  submitting  a  proposition, 
we  will  give  a  list  of  these. 

We  are  anxious  to  obtain  this  order  from  the  Commission,  and  if  favoured 
with  it  will  give  it  our  best  attention,  and  endeavour  to  make  the  cars  sup- 
plied a  source  of  convenience  and  satisfaction  to  you,  as  well  as  a  standing 
advertisement  for  ourselves. 

Awaiting  your  further  favours,  we  are, 

Yours  very  truly, 

T.  B.  RUSSELL, 

General  Manager. 


EXHIBIT   H. 

The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited, 

Toronto,  Ont,  Feb.  llth,  1909. 

P.  W.  Sothmann,  Esq., 

Chief  Engineer,  Hydro-Electric  Power   Commission,   Toronto. 

Dear  Sin- 
Confirming  our  conversation  of  even  date,  we  will  supply  you  with  a 
Pierce  Arrow  36  h.p.  6  cylinder  car,  shown  on  page  20  in  Pierce  catalogue, 
seating  capacity  four  people,  equipment  as  follows: — 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  95 


2  Head  lights,  gas  burning.  Tires    Q.D.,    B.T.,    24    x     4     front, 

2  Side  lights,  oil  burning.  24  x  4%  rear. 

1  Tail  light,  oil  burning.  Upholstering  optional. 

1  Gas  generator.  Colour  optional. 

I  Large  tube  horn.  Full  set  tools,  tire  repair  kit. 

4  Hartford  shock  absorbers.  Tire  pump. 

1  Trunk  rack.  1  set  carrying  irons. 

1  Foot  rest.  Leather  parcel  carriers. 

1  Coat  or  robe  rail.  Pockets  for  carrying  parcels  on  doors 

1  Stewart  &  Clark  60-mile  combina-         and  back  of  front  seat. 

tion  clock  speedometer.  1  gallon  lubricating  oil. 

1  Gasoline  gauge.  1  can  grease. 

1  Muffler  cut-out.  1  Jack. 

6  Extra  spark  plugs.  Yale  locks,  locking  hood,  tool  box  and 

1  Extra  set  parts.  grease  box. 

2  Extra  tires.  1  Pantasote  cape  top. 

1  Wind  shield,  folding. 

Price,    f.o.b.  Toronto,    $5,200. 


In  offering  you  this  car,  we  feel  that  we  are  offering  you  without  doubt 
the  best  car  sold  on  the  American  market  for  your  purpose.  The  car  is  fully 
guaranteed,  and  with  proper  care  can  be  run  any  day  that  any  wheeled  vehicle 
can  be  driven.  In  fact,  it  is  a  limited  train  in  itself. 

The  six  cylinder  car  is  a  much,  better  proposition  than  a  four  cylinder  car. 
The  wear  and  tear  on  the  car  is  much  less  in  a  six  cylinder  car  than  a  four 
cylinder  car,  owing  to  the  constant  tort  given  by  the  six  cylinders. 

We  would  be  glad  to  have  you  visit  the  Pierce  factory  and  inspect  the  car 
as  it  is  made  and  put  together,  knowing  that  a  mechanic  of  your  experience 
would  thoroughly  appreciate  the  care  taken  in  building  Pierce  cars. 

As  we  have  but  one  of  these  cars,  it  will  be  necessary,  in  order  to  secure 
it,  to  place  your  order  at  the  earliest  possible  moment. 

Trusting  that  we  may  be  favoured  with  your  esteemed  order,  we  remain, 

Yours  truly, 

AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co.,  LTD. 
Per  W.  8.  Smith. 


96  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Bank  of  Montreal, 

Toronto,  March  5th,  1910. 
Personal. 

P.  W.  Sotham,  Esq., 

Chief  Engineer, 

Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission, 
Toronto. 

Dear  Sin- 
As  requested  by  yours  of  the  4th  inst.,  we  enclose  herewith  your  savings 

cheque,  dated  May  19th,  1909,  for  $1,500,  in  favour  of  Mr.  J.  F.  Beck. 
Please  acknowledge  receipt. 

Yours  truly, 

(Sgd.) 

DHB/S  Manager. 

Enc.  1 


March  Yth,  1910. 
Bank  of  Montreal, 

Yonge  and  Front  Streets, 
City. 

Dear  Sir:— 

I  have  received  your  valued  favour  of  March  5th,  with  the  cheque  enclosed. 

Yours  truly, 

Account  No.  11438.  Toronto,  May  19th,  1909. 

To  the  Bank  of  Montreal, 

Savings  Department. 
Pay  to  Mr.  J.  F.  Beck, 
Fifteen  hundred  dollars. 

$1.500.  P.    W.    SOTHMANN. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  97 


Private. 

March  4th,  1910. 
Manager  of  Savings  Dept., 

Bank  of  Montreal, 
Yonge  and  Front  Streets, 
City. 

Dear  Sir: — 

Would  you  kindly  return  to  me  at  once  my  cheque  of  Jlay  22nd,  made  in 
favour  of  Mr.  Beck  for  the  sum  of  $1,500. 

Kindly  have  same  forwarded  to  this  office,  and  oblige, 

Yours  truly, 


21  Nov.       A.O.  47. 


Toronto,  Canada,  June  llth,  1908.     Series  No. 

On  or  before  the  18th  day  of  November,  1908,  for  value  received,  I 
promise  to  pay  to  The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited,  or  order,  at  The 
Bank  of  Toronto,  Toronto,  the  sum  of  Seventy-five  dollars,  $75.00,  with  in- 
terest at  six  per  cent.  (6%)  per  annum  until  paid.  $2.00  interest — $77.00. 

I  hereby  acknowledge  having  received  a  copy  of  the  Bargain  made  for 
the  property  for  which  this  note  is  given. 

PAID,  (F.  Cowan).  P.  W.  SOTHMANN. 

Toronto,  Nov.  21,  1908. 

Received  from  Mr.  P.  W.  Sothmann,  Seventy-seven  dollars,  per  note  due 
to-day. 

$77.00.  THE  AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co.,  Limited 

Per  F.  Cowan. 


4  Dec.  A.O.  48. 


Toronto,  Canada,  June  llth,  1908.     Series  No. 

On  or  before  the  eighteenth  day  of  December,  1908,  for  value  received, 
T  promise  to  pay  to  The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited,  or  order,  at  The 
Bank  of  Toronto,  Toronto,  the  sum  of  Seventy-five  dollars,  ($75.00)  with 
interest  at  6%  (six  per  cent.)  per  annum  until  paid.  $2.16  interest — $77.16. 


98  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


I  hereby  acknowledge  having  received  a  copy  of  the  bargain  made  for  the 
property  for  which  this  note  is  given. 

Paid,  (F.  Cowan).  P.  W.  SOTHMANN. 


21  Jan.  A.O.  49. 


Toronto,  Canada,  June  llth,  1908.     Series  No. 

On  or  before  the  18th  day  of  January,  1909,  for  value  received,  I  promise 
to  pay  to  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited,  or  order,  at  the  Bank  of 
Toronto,  Toronto,  the  sum  of  Seventy-five  Dollars  ($75.00),  with  interest  at 
6%  per  annum  until  paid.  $2.76  interest — $77.76. 

I  hereby  acknowledge  having  received  a  copy  of  the  bargain  made  for  the 
property  for  which  this  note  is  given. 

P.  W.  SOTHMANN. 


21  Feb.     A.O.  50. 


Toronto,  Canada,  June  llth,  1908.     Series  No. 

On  or  before  the  18th  day  of  February,  1909,  for  value  received,  I 
promise  to  pay  to  the  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited,  or  order,  at  the  Bank 
of  Toronto,  Toronto,  the  sum  of  Seventy-five  Dollars  ($75.00),  with  interest  at 
6  per  cent.  (%)  per  annum  until  paid.  $3.14  interest — $78.14. 

I  hereby  acknowledge  having  received  a  copy  of  the  bargain  made  for  the 
property  for  which  this  note  is  given. 

PAID.  P.  W.  SOTHMANN. 

Toronto,  Feb.  22nd,  1909. 

Keceived  from  Mr.  Sotham,  Twenty-eight  and  14/100  Dollars  for  Note 
due  2/22/1903. 

THE  AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co.,  LIMITED. 
.14.  Per  F.  Cowan. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  99 


21  March.       A.O.  51. 


Toronto,  Canada,  June  llth,  1908.     Series  No. 

On  or  before  the  18th  day  of  March,  1909,  for  value  received,  I  promise 
to  pay  to  The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited,  or  order,  at  the  Bank  of 
Toronto,  Toronto,  the  sum  of  Seventy-five  Dollars  ($75.00),  with  interest  at 
six  per  cent.  (%)  per  annum  until  paid.  $3.48  interest — $78.48. 

I  hereby  acknowledge  having  received  a  copy  of  the  bargain  made  for 
the  property  for  which  this  note  is  given. 

PAID.  P.  W.  SOTHMANN. 


Toronto,  March  20th,  1909. 

Eeceived  from   Mr.   Southman,   Seventy-eight   and   48/100   Dollars,   for 
note  due  to-day. 

THE  AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co.,  LIMITED. 
$78.48.  Per  F.   Cowan,  Atty. 


21  Apr.     A.O.  52. 


Toronto,  Canada,  June  llth,  1908.     Series  No. 

On  or  before  the  18th  day  of  April,  1909,  for  value  received,  I  promise 
to  pay  to  the  Automobile  &3  Supply  Co.,  Limited,  or  order,  at  the  Bank  of 
Toronto,  Toronto,  the  sum  of  Seventy-five  Dollars  ($75.00),  with  interest  at 
six  per  cent.  (6%)  per  annum  until  paid.  $3.87  interest — $78.87. 

I  hereby  acknowledge  having  received  a  copy  of  the  bargain  made  for 
the  property  for  which  this  note  is  given. 

P.  W.  SOTHMANN. 

Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited. 

Paid 

Note 

May  22nd,  $39.25. 

G. 


100  APPENDIX  Xo.  I.  1910 


21  June,  1909.     A.O.  54. 


Toronto,  Canada,  June  llth,  1908.     Series  No. 

On  or  before  the  18th  day  of  June,  1909,  for  value  received,  I  promise 
to  pay  to  The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited,  or  order,  at  the  Bank  of 
Toronto,  Toronto,  the  sum  of  Seventy-five  Dollars  ($75.00),  with  interest  at 
six  per  cent.  (6%)  per  annum  until  paid.  $4.65  interest — $79.65. 

I  hereby  acknowledge  having  received  a  copy  of  the  bargain  made  for 
the  property  for  which  this  note  is  given. 

P.  W.  SOTHMANN. 


Agents  for  the  Celebrated  6824 

Pierce- Arrow,  Koyal  Tourist,  Telephone  M.  6825 

Stoddard-Dayton,  Mitchell,  6826 
Kissel,  Reo. 

i 

The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited, 
24  Temperance  Street, 

Toronto,   Ont.,   Sept.    23rd,   1908. 

Mr.  P.  W.  Sothman, 

276  Eusholme  Road, 
City. 

Dear  Sir:— 

We  are  in  receipt  of  $75.00  in  settlement  of  your  note  due  Sept.  21st, 
for  which  please  accept  our  thanks.  This,  however,  is  not  settlement  in  full, 
as  there  is  interest  on  this  note  amounting  to  $1.30,  which  you  will  see  as  per 
statement  enclosed. 

Kindly  favour  us  with  amount  to  cover  this,  and  oblige, 

Yours  truly, 

AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co.,  LTD. 

Diet.  J.A.C.M.  Per  J.  A.  Mollet, 

Enc.  Acct. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  101 


Statement.  Phone  M.  6824 

k  y  -;  _  "  24  Temperance  Street.  6825 

P.  W.  Sothman, 

In  acct.  with 

The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited, 

High-grade  Gasoline  and  Electric  Vehicles. 

To  note  due  Sept.  21st   $75  00 

"  Interest   on  same    1  30 

$76  30 
Sept.    23rd.     By  cash,    $75.00 75  00 

Balance   due  $1  30 


Order  ISTo.  Date 


The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited, 

22-26  Temperance  Street,  Toronto,   Ont. 

Please  enter  my  order  for  a  Model  "  Surrie  Rambler,"  5475  Auto- 
mobile. Price  to  be  $625.00  f.o.b.,  Toronto.  Deposit  of  $300.00  is  hereby 
acknowledged,  and  balance  of  $  is  to  be  paid  upon  delivery  of  auto- 

mobile.    Date  of  delivery  to  be  on  or  about  May  2nd,  1908. 

It  is  understood  that  the  automobile  purchased  by  me  is  guaranteed  by 
manufacturer  the  under  the  guarantee 

of  the  Manufacturers'  Association. 

Specifications : 

Name  of  Car. 
Style  of  Body. 
Colour  of  Body. 
Striping  of  Gear. 
Colour  of  Gear. 
Trimming. 
Size  of  Tires. 
Make  of  Tires. 
Rims. 

Gear  Ratio. 
Monogram. 


102  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Style  of  Top. 
Top  Cover. 
Seat  Cover. 
Extra  Tires. 


Second-hand. 

AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co., 

w.  s.  s. 


Receipt  of  copy  of  this  order  is  hereby  acknowledged. 
(Signed) 


Copy. 

$140.00.  June  llth,  1908. 

Received  from  P.  W.  Sothman  the  sum  of  One  hundred  and  forty  Dol- 
lars. 

AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co.,  LIMITED. 


Canadian  Agents  6824 

for  the  celebrated  Telephone  M.  6825 

Pierce- Arrow,  Eoyal  6826 

Tourist,  Stoddard- 
Dayton,  Mitchell, 
Kissel,  Reo. 

The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited, 
24  Temperance  Street, 

Toronto,  Ont,  July  27th,  1908. 

Mr.  P.  W.  Sothman, 

276  Rnsholme  Road,  City. 

Dear  Sir:— 

We  enclose  herewith  your  note  for  $75.00,  which  was  paid  on  the  21st. 

Yours  truly, 

AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co., 
Diet.  J.A.C.M.  Per  J.  A.  Mollet. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  103 


July  21.     A.O.  42. 


Toronto,  Canada,  June  llth,  1908.     Series  No. 

On  or  before  the  18th  day  of  July,  1908,  for  value  received,  I  promise 
to  pay  to  The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited,  or  order,  at  the  Bank  of 
Toronto,  Toronto,  the  sum  of  Seventy-five  Dollars  ($75.00),  with  interest  at 
6%  (six  per  cent.)  per  annum  until  paid.  .50  interest — $75.50. 

1  hereby  acknowledge  having  received  a  copy  of  the  bargain  made  for 
the  property  for  which  this  note  is  given. 

P.  W.  SOTHMANN. 


Agents  for  the  Celebrated  6824 

Fierce-Arrow,  Royal  Tourist,  Telephone  M.   6825 

Stoddard-Dayton,  Mitchell,  6826 
Kissel,  Reo. 

The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited, 
24  Temperance  Street, 

Toronto,  Ont.,  July  20th,  1908. 

Mr.  P.  W.  Sotham, 

Ont.  Power  Commission, 
City. 

Dear  Sir: — 

Your  note  for  $75  came  due  on  the  18th.  Will  you  please  give  this  and 
your  sundries  account  your  prompt  attention,  and  oblige  ?  The  note  is  at  the 
Bank  of  Toronto,  Wellington  and  Church  Streets,  City. 

Yours  truly, 

AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co., 

Per  J.  A.  Mollet, 
Dirt.  W.   S.   S.  -Acct. 


104  APPENDIX  No.  1.  1910 


Agents  for  the  celebrated  6824 

Fierce-Arrow,  Royal  Tourist,  Telephone  M.  6825 

Stoddard-Dayton,  Mitchell,  6826 
Kissel,  Reo. 


The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited, 
24  Temperance  Street, 

Toronto,  Ont,  Sept.  5th,  1908. 

Mr.  P.  W.  Sotham, 
City. 

Dear  Sir: — 

We  enclose  herewith  your  note  due  August  21st,  which  has  been  paid. 

Yours  truly, 


AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co.,  LIMITED. 
Diet.  J.A.C.M.  Per  J.  A.  Mollet. 


21  Aug.     A.O.  44. 


Toronto,  Canada,  June  llth,  1908.     Series  No. 

On  or  before  the  18th  day  of  August,  1908,  for  value  received,  I  promise 
to  pay  to  The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited,  or  order,  at  the  Bank  of 
Toronto,  the  sum  of  Seventy-five  Dollars  ($75.00),  with  interest  at  six  per 
cent.  (6%)  per  annum  until  paid.  .87  interest — $75.87. 

I  hereby  acknowledge  having  received  a  copy  of  the  bargain  made  for 
the  property  for  which  this  note  is  given. 


P.  W.  SOTHMANIV. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  105 


Agents  for  the  celebrated  6824 

Fierce-Arrow,  Royal  Tourist,  Telephone  M.  6825 

Stoddard-Dayton,  Mitchell,  6826 
Kissel,  Reo. 

The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited, 
24  Temperance  Street, 

Toronto,  Aug.  17th,  1908. 

Received  from  P.  W.  Sothman,  $75.90,  in  settlement  of  note  due  August 
21st,  1908. 

THE  AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co.,  LIMITED, 
Per  J.  A.  Mollet. 


21  Sept.     A.O.  45. 


Toronto,  Canada,  June  llth,  1908.     Series  No. 

On  or  before  the  18th  day  of  September,  1908,  for  value  received,  I 
promise  to  pay  to  The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited,  or  order,  Seventy- 
five  Dollars  ($75.00),  with  interest  at  six  per  cent.  (6%)  per  annum  until 
paid.  $1.30  interest — $76.30. 

I  hereby  acknowledge  having  received  a  copy  of  the  bargain  made  for  the 
property  for  which  this  note  is  given. 

P.  W.  SOTHMAM. 


Toronto,  Sept.  23rd,  1908. 

Received  from  P.  W.  Sothman,  Seventy-five  Dollars,  note  due  Sept.  21st, 
1908.     Still  owes  $1.30  for  interest. 

THE  AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co.,  LIMITED, 

Per  J.  A.  Mollet, 
$75.00.  Acct. 


106  APPENDIX  No.  1.  191  ' 


Agents  for  the  celebrated  6824 

Fierce-Arrow,  Royal  Tourist,  Telephone  M.  6825 

Stoddard-Dayton,  Mitchell,  6826 
Kissel,  Reo. 

The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited, 
24  Temperance  Street, 

Toronto,   Out,   Sept.   23rd.,    1908. 

Mr.  P.  W.  Sothman, 

276  Rusholme  Road, 
City. 

Dear  Sir:— 

We  are  in  receipt  of  $75.00  in  settlement  of  your  note  due  Sept.  21st,  for 
which  please  accept  our  thanks.  This,  however,  is  not  settlement  in  full,  as 
there  is  interest  on  this  note  amounting  to  $1.30,  which  you  will  see  as  per 
statement  enclosed. 

Kindly  favour  us  with  amount  to  cover  this,  and  oblige, 

Yours  truly, 

AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co.,  LIMITED. 

Diet.  J.A.C.M.  Per  J.  A.  Mollet, 

Enc.  Acct. 


Statement.  Phone  M.  6824. 

24,  Temperance  Street.  6825 

P.  W.  Sothman, 
In  acct.  with 

The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited, 

High-grade  Gasoline  and  Electric  Vehicles. 

To  note  due  Sept.  21st    $75  00 

Interest  on  same    1-30 


u 


$76  30 
Sept.  23rd.     By  Cash,  $75.00    75  00 


Balance    due  $1  30 


•Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  107 


21  Oct.      A.O.  46. 


Toronto,  Canada,  June  llth,  1908.     Series  No. 

On  or  before  the  18th  day  of  October,  1908,  for  value  received,  I  promise 
to  pay  to  The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited,  or  order,  at  the  Bank  of 
Toronto,  Toronto,  the  sum  of  Seventy-five  Dollars  ($75.00),  with  interest  at 
six  per  cent.  (6%)  per  annum  until  paid.  $1.62  interest — $76.62. 

I  hereby  acknowledge  having  received  a  copy  of  the  bargain  made  for  the 
property  for  which  this  note  is  given. 

P.  W.  SOTHMANN. 
Received  payment,  21/10/08, 
J.  A.  M. 


6824 

Telephone  M.  6825 
6826 

The  Automobile  &  Supply  Co.,  Limited, 
24  Temperance  Street, 

Toronto,   Ont,   Oct.   28th,   1908. 

P.  W.  Sotham,  Esq., 

Continental  Life  Bldg., 
City. 

Dear  Sir  :— 

We  are  enclosing  you  herewith  your  note  due  Oct.  21,  which  was  paid 
by  you,  and  for  which  please  accept  our  thanks. 

Yours  truly, 

AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co.,  LTD., 

Diet.  J.A.C.M.  Per  J.  A.  Mollei. 

Enc. 

Toronto,  Oct  21st,  1908. 

Received  from  P.  W.  Sothman,  Seventy-six  and  60/100  Dollars  in  full 
for  note  due  Oct.  21st,  1908. 

THE  AUTOMOBILE  &  SUPPLY  Co.,  LIMITED, 
$76.60.  Per  J.  A.  Mollet. 


108  APPENDIX  Xo.  1.  1910 


Distribution 
To  Account. 

\7oucher  No.  1927.  Kegistered  Fol.  46. 

Amount,    $1,788:05, 

In  favour  of 
P.  W.  Sothman, 

For  Expenses  on  European  Trip. 
Checked  and  entered. 

Accountant. 
PAID. 

Date,  Oct.  20,  1909. 
Cash  Book  Folio  46. 

By  Check  No.  1883. 

i 

Sec'y-Treas. 

Audited 

Auditor. 


Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission. 

To  P  W.  Sothman,  Dr. 

For  Expenses  on  European  Trip $1,788  05 

Date  October  20,  1909. 

Received  from  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission  the  sum  of  Seventeen 
Hundred  and  Eighty-Eight  .05  Dollars,  in  full  settlement  of  the  above 
account. 

Approved,  Approved  for  payment, 

Correct. 

Accountant.  Secretary.  Chairman. 

NOTE. — Please  sign,  date  and  return  to  H.  E.  P.  Commission,  Toronto. 


Edw.  VII.  APPENDIX  No.  1.  109 


Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission. 

To  F.  P.  Mansfeldt,  Dr. 

For  Expenses  on  European  Trip   $747  23 

Date  Oct.  20th,  1909. 

Received  from  Hydro-Electric  Power  Commission,  the  sum  of  Seven 
Hundred  and  forty-seven  23/100  Dollars,  in  full  settlement  of  the  above 
account. 

(Sgd.)    F.  P.  MAFSFELDT. 
Correct,  Approved, 

Accountant.  Secretary. 

Approved  for  payment, 

(Sgd.)  A.  BECK, 

Chairman. 

NOTE. — Please  sign,  date  and  return  to  H.  E.  P.  Commission,  Toronto. 


Voucher  No.  1929.  Registered  Fol.  46. 

Amount,  $747.23, 

In  favour  of 
F.  P.  Mansfeldt, 

For  Expenses  on  European  Trip. 
Checked  and  entered. 

"  E.  C.  0.," 

Accountant. 


PAID. 


Date,  Oct.  20,  1909. 
Cash  Book  Folio  46. 
By  Check  No.  1885. 


E.    C.    SOTTELL/' 

Sec'y-Trea*. 


INDEX  TO  REPORT  AND  EVIDENCE. 


ABMSTBONG,  S.  A. 

His  Evidence  re  Permits  and  Numbers  for  Automobile  Cars.  .  68-69 

Re  Tags  for 80-81 

BECK,  HON.  ADAM  : 

His  Evidence  re  Legal  Expenses,  Hydro-Electric  Commission .  .  24-30 

Ee  Automobiles  for 30 

Re  Consulting  Engineers   32 

Re  Rights-of-Way   33-35 

•COLONIZATION  ROADS: 

Charlton  to  Gowganda 15 

Provisions,   etc 15 

EXHIBITS  : 

Re  Sale  and  Purchase  of  Automobiles  for  Hydro-Electric  Com- 
mission      87" 

FOBEST-RANGING  : 

Re  Wages   of  Rangers    12-14 

GIBSON,  THOMAS  W. : 

His  Evidence  re  Gillies  Limit  Sales,  etc.    21-24-35-36-41-74-78 

Re  Drills    78-80 

GILLABD,  H.  D. : 

His  Evidence  re  Fire-ranging 13-14 

GILLIES  LIMIT: 

Timber   Destroyed   by   Fire    14 

Gibson,   Thomas    W.,   his  Evidence   re   Locations,   Sales   and 

Drills,  etc .  .21-24-35-36-41-76-80 

Exploration   of 35 

Mining  Sales  in    36-41 

Young,  A.  J.,  his  Evidence  in  re 64-67 

Madden,  S.  D.,  his  Evidence  in  re 81-86 

GOWGANDA  TOWN  PLOTS: 

Sale  of  Lots  in  73-75 

GBANT,  W.  C. : 

His  Evidence  re  Purchase  and  Sale  of  Automobiles 47-49 

[i] 


11 


INDEX  1910 


HYDEO-ELECTBIC  POWEE  COMMISSION: 

Automobiles 14-15 

Legal  Expenses,  Fees,  etc 15 

Mr.  Pope's  Evidence  re  Expenses,  Right-of-Way,  etc 16-19 

Re  Automobiles 19-21 

Mr.  Beck's  Evidence  re  Legal  Expenses 24-30 

Re  Automobiles  30-31 

Re  Consulting  Engineers    

Re  Right-of-Way 33-35 

Mr.  W.  S.  Smith's  Evidence  re  Purchase  of  Automobiles 42-46-50-57 

Mr.  W.  G.  Grant's  Evidence  re  Purchase  of  Automobiles 47-49 

Mr.  P.  W.  Sothmann's  Evidence  re    Purchase    and    Sale    of 

Automobiles 57-64-69-73 

Exhibits  re  Sales 87 

MADDEN,  S.  D. : 

His  Evidence  re  Gillies   Limit  Sales .. . .  81-86 

MINES  : 

Receipts  from  Sales 36-41 

Mr.  T.  W.  Gibson's  Evidence  re  Sales  in  Gillies  Limit 

21-24-35-36-41-74-78-80 

POPE,  W.  W. : 

His  Evidence  re  Legal  Expenses  in  Connection  with  Hydro- 
Electric    16-21 

PEIVILEGE  : 

A  Question  of 43-46 

REPOET  OF  COMMITTEE: 

Report  and  Minutes   3-12 

Amendment  Proposed  to  Motion  for  Adoption 11 

SMITH,  W.  S. : 

His  Evidence  re  Sales  of  Automobiles 42-46-50-57 

SOTHMANN,  P.  W.  : 

His  Evidence  re  Purchase  and  Sale  of  Automobiles 57-64-69-73 

SUEVEY : 

Expenses  of,  in  New  Districts 14 

TIMBEE  : 

Compensation  for,  DestroredJby  Eire 14 

9243  134 . 

YOUNG,  A.  J. : 

His  Evidence  re  Gillies  Limit  .  64-67