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PRESIDENT ROBERT CRAIG.
PROCEEDINGS
SECOND CONVENTION
OF THE
Society OF American Florists
HELD AT
PHILADELPHIA, PENN'A,
Aiagust ISthi, 20tYi, and 21st, 1886.
PUBLISHED BY ORDER OF THE SOCIETY.
HARRISBUKG, PA.:
J. HoBACE McFarland, Printer for Nurserymen, Florists and Seedsmen.
1886.
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OFFICERS
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Elected at Philadelphia Meeting, August 20, 1886.
president:
ROBERT CRAIG, Philadelphia, Pa.
VICE president:
J. C. VAUGHAN, Chicago, III.
secretary :
EDWIN LONSDALE, Philadelphia, Pa.
treasurer ;
MYRON A. HUNT, Chicago, III.
executive committee:
.John Thorpe, Queens, N. Y.
Robert J. Halliday, Baltimore, Md. John N. May, Summit, N. J.
.T. M. Jordan, St. Louis, Mo. Henry' A. Siebrecht, New Rochelle, N. Y.
C. B. Whitnall Milwaukee, Wis. .\lex. Murdoch, Pittsburgh, Penn'a
E. a. Hill, Riohmoml. Ind. Wm. J. Stewart, Boston, Mass.
CHAPEL I ^ « 4 - % 7
Statk Vice Presidents for 1887,
Elected and Appointed to Date.
Alabama, C. H. Keed, Birmingham.
California, J. H. Stevees, San Francisco.
Canada, C. Campbell, Montreal.
Colorado, Aveey Gallup, Denver.
Connecticut, G. A. Dickeeman, New Haven.
Dakota, . . . E. L. Du Bell, Sioux Falls.
Delaware, M. F. Hayden, Wilmington.
District of Columbia, . . . Heney Pfister, Washington.
Georgia, Ed. W^achendorff, Atlanta.
Illinois, A. W. Sawyer, Sycamore.
Indiana, J. G. Heinl, Terre Haute.
loiva, JuDsoN Keameb, Marion.
Kansas, Miss Emma Bristol, Topeka.
Kentucky, E. Bell, Lexington.
Louisiana, John Eblen, New Orleans.
Maine, . . F. H. MoaES, Bucksport.
Maryland, R. J. Halliday, Baltimore.
Massachusetts, .P. Welch, Boston.
Michigan, Stephen Taplin, Detroit.
Minnesota, R. J. Mendenhall, Minneapolis
Missouri, Ldthee Aemstrong, Kirkwood.
Nebraska, A. Donaghue, Omaha.
New Hampshire, G. E. Buxton.
J. N. May, Summit,
' Peter Henderson, Jersey City Heights.
,, -t:^ , , Henry A. Siebrecht, New Rochelle.
New York, ' '
F. E. McAllister, New York.
North Carolina, G. B. Lamb, Wilmington.
^, . j Northern, .... Robert George, Painesville.
( Southern, .... George Coebett, College Hill.
6 STATE VICE PRESIDENTS.
^ , . ( Eastern, . Thomas Caktledge, Philadelphia.
Pennsylvania, { -^ ^ ^ T-.-i, , ^
( Western, . B. A. Elliott, Pittsburgh.
Rhode Island, George Burroughs, Providence.
South Carolina, Mrs. J. S. R. Thomson, Spartansburg.
Tennessee, J. J. Crusman, Clarksville.
Vermont, C. E. Allen, Brattleboro'.
Virginia, Benjamin Reynolds, Norfolk.
West Virginia, AV. F. Ivrieger, Wheeling.
Wisconsin, William Carrie, Milwaukee.
<XIPROCEEDlNGS.Oo
FIRST DAY— Morning.
Horticultural Hall, Philadelphia, August iS, 1886.
At the hour appointed for the assembling of the convention, the
officers of the society, with. Hon. William B. Smith, mayor of the
city of Philadelphia; J. E. Mitchell, Esq., President of the Pennsyl-
vania Horticnltnral Society ; and Robert Craig, Esq., Vice President
of the Society of American Florists, and President of the Philadelphia
Florists' Club, appeared upon the handsomely decorated platform.
The session of the convention opened at 10.30 o'clock, a. m.. Presi-
dent Thorpe in the chair.
Mr. J. E. Mitchell, President of the Pennsylvania Horticultural
Society, upon being introduced, said :
Members of the American Florists'' Association^ ladies and gentle-
men : In behalf of the Pennsylvania Horticultural Societ3% it affords
me great pleasure to tender to your association the use of this hall
for holding your convention therein, and to extend to you a hearty
welcome on behalf of our members.
It is very gratifying to our people that you have accepted the in-
vitation of our enterprising florists to hold your session in this city ;
and rest assured that no pains will be spared by them and their ladies
to make your stay among us both profitable and pleasant to you.
I have the pleasure to announce that the officers of the Union
League have kindly extended an invitation to you to visit their Ijeau-
tiful building, to which you will be admitted at any time on showing
your badges at the door. I am also authorized to extend to you an
invitation to visit our new city hall ; Mr. MacPherson, the superintend-
ent, will gladly show you through the building. These invitations are
extended to both the ladies and gentlemen of your association — and it
is an evidence of your good taste that you have brought your ladies
8 PROCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
with YOU to visit our Quaker city. His Honor, the mayor of the city,
is present to extend to you an official welcome in behalf of the nine
hundred thousand people over whose safety and comfort he so al)ly
presides.
I close by wishing you a pleasant sojourn among us, Avith an ex-
pression of tlie hope that you will carry to your distant homes some
pleasant reminiscences of your visit to the city of brotherly love.
I have the pleasure to introduce His Honor, the mayor of the city
of Philadeli)liia.
Hon. William B. Smith, mayor of Philadelphia, responded :
3Ir. President^ ladies and gentlemen : There are pleasant lines even
in public life, and the present occasion is one of them. It is a real
pleasure for me to come to this hall, as I have, to welcome to Phila-
delphia ladies and gentlemen representing a profession which is akin
to the best interests of humanity and civilization, and wdiich, in the
results of its handiwork, is near and dear to us both in scenes of glad-
ness and of sorrow. There is, perhaps, no more efficient means of re-
lining and improving our natures than is afibrded by a knowledge of
the florist's art. To that art, and to the skill with which the meml)ers
of your profession combine the products of our fields and gardens, we
are indebted for tlie beautifying of our homes and for a healthful in-
fluence upon our lives. I desire to say to you, very informally but
very earnestly, that the city of Philadelphia — which welcomes at all
times organizations founded for the common good and the advance-
ment of the pul^lic welfare — is specially pleased to greet your organi-
zation as one entitled to a high rank in public estimation.
Philadelphia is a city of which its people are proud, for the reason
that within its limits are more happy homes, possibly, than are to be
found in any city under the broad canopy of heaven. With a popu-
lation approaching, if it has not already reached, an aggregate of a
million, we have one hundred and forty-seven thousand families re-
siding in their own homes, occupying their own households, without
sharing them with others. With our opportunities for the enjoyment
of domestic comfort ; with our exemption from scenes of turbulance
and outlawry, our people are cosmopolitan enough to guarantee lib-
erty to all who respect law and are law-abiding enough to enforce
equality of rights among themselves and respect for the rights of
others.
In welcoming you to our midst, I feel that your presence will be
fruitful of good to us ; that, by the knowledge of your art which you
may impart to us, the popular taste for floriculture will be stimulated
and improved; and that your stay with us will be of mutual benefit
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS.
9
in cementing the bonds of friendship, which should ever exist between
the people of all sections of the United States. The city in which the
nation had its birth, and which recently celebrated the one hundredth
anniversary of popular government and American independence, is
certainly interested in fostering that spirit of nationality which it has
done so much to uphold. On behalf of the city of Philadelphia, I de-
sire to say to you, each and all, that if our offices can be of any ser-
vice to you in securing for you admission to any of the i)ublic institu-
tions that you may desire to visit, or in tendering an}" attentions that
may be agreeable to a stranger within the walls of a great city, you
may count upon receiving the same instantly. Assuring you of the
good wishes in your behalf of the good people of this city ; trusting
that your meeting will be a successful one, and believing that you
will have cause to preserve many happy recollections of your trip
here, I again Ind you a hearty welcome."
Mr. J. M. Jordan, of St. Louis, (a member of the executive com-
mittee of the Societ}" of American Florists,) being here introduced, re-
sponded in behalf of the society as follows :
Mr. Mayor of Philadelphia., Mr. President of the Horticultural
Society of Pennsylvania: In response to your hearty welcomes, I have
to say that we are very thankful. We have been made to feel at
home, made happy in the few hours of to-day that we have already
spent here, and the jtrospect which the good citizens of Philadelphia
hold out to us flatters our hearts, and we feel that it is good for us that
we came a long distance to receive your cordial greetings. I hope
that our stay with you will be such that we will commend ourselves
to your hearty approval ; that we will keep within those bounds of
decorum which should never be transgressed by the horticulturist ;
that, in receiving these hospitalities from the generous hands of the
city of Philadelphia, we will not fail to appreciate the friendly motives
which insi^ire them, but will carry with us to our homes a pleasant
remembrance of them ; and that the day may not be far distant when
we will have an opportunity of welcoming you to a city of the far
West.
Thanking you, ladies and gentlemen of Philadelphia, for j^our
kind expressions of regard, and the earnest greetings uttered in your
behalf, we hope that our stay may be pleasant for you and for us.
The first order of business, according to the programme, was here
disposed of by the Secretary in calling the roll of officers of the socie-
ty and the State Vice Presidents.
10 PROCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
Opening Address by President Thorpe.
The Chairman (Vice President Robert Craig in the chair) : I
have an exceedingly pleasant announcement to make. The next
business on the programme is an address by a gentleman who needs
no introduction — the father of this society and our President to-day —
Mr. John Thorpe. I have the pleasure of presenting him to you,
Mr. Thorpe addressed the society as follows :
It is.again my pleasure to greet you, and I do so with unbounded satisfaction.
I am proud to say tliat the two-year-old seedling is developing finely, and already
shows signs of bearing good fruit. lean see in the near future the Society of
American Florists taking a position equal to any organization in the country.
The best talent in our profession is heart and soul with us, and is ready and will-
ing to make its mark.
The progressive florist is a man who must necessarily be interested in many
other branches of horticulture, all of which are good.
LOOKING AHEAD.
When the society gets more deeply rooted, and is well stayed from every quar-
ter, I hope to see one of its branches shaped into an experimental garden where
inventions, appliances, and structures of all kinds can be displayed ; attached to
it there shall be also a good library. This is a branch worthy of the support of
those fortunate individuals who have not only bountiful wealth, but liberal
hearts to bestow it. With such assistance, we could spread into every town and
village in the country.
Another branch should be the establishment of local exhibitions, controlled by
committees appointed by the society, whereat new and desirable plants and
flowers shall be reported upon, thus giving encouragement to those members who
are debarred from taking part in competitions where distance is too far from the
large cities.
1 hope to see established, on a sound basis, yet another branch, in the shape of
a mutual benevolent association, which shall be so trained as to afford slielterfor
those members who are overtaken by misfortune. Tliis would be of incalculable
good. Perhaps this is not the time to handle such an important question, but I
think it will be well for us to ponder over it, as the sooner all good undertakings
are begun the better for those concerned. Would it not be wise for us to appoint
a committee to report as to the best methods of forming such an association at
our next general meeting ?
We must also be patient and persuasive in insuring the first side-branch that
grew to make a fresh start. From some cause or other, it (the hail question) got
cliecked, and I do hope that before the termination of this meeting we shall have
solved the question.
These, then, are a few of the bristling shoots of the society which require at-
tention.
THE PROGRAMME.
We present to you to-day a programme rich in those topics in which we are the
most interested. Indeed, if signs do not fail, we shall have sucli a fund of in-
formation to digest as to give us material for next year's consideration.
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 11
I cannot help expressing myself concerning this master-piece which the ex-
ecutive committee has given us. All the subjects selected ai'e of the greatest
importance, and for the reason that great subjects should be given to many
minds, this is the time to get the most out of them.
BUSINESS OUTLOOK.
During the past year, business on the whole has been equal to that of previous
years, excepting, perhaps, in some localities. The unfortunate labor troubles
during the spring caused a falling off in the sale of market plants. By market
plants it will be understood tliat I refer to tliose plants which are grown and sold
in flower; for, be it remembered, the mechanics and artisans, with their wives,
are large buyers of plants when labor is not in the throes of disturbance. The
sales of cut flowers have been greater than ever. Stock of the finest quality never
sold higlier, on the average, and it truly can be said that stock of poor quality
never sold lower.
No radical change has been made as to new additions or eliminations of varie-
ties. Of course, roses are in the van, with a longer list than usual of other flow-
ers before arriving at the last one.
Many varieties of summer-flowering plants are now grown for cut-flowers, and
•meet with ready sales in limited quantities. A few years since, all, or nearly all,
the flowers sold at this season were those used only for funerals.
The demand for good roses (at really good prices) was greater tlian the supply
during June and part of July, and some growers are providing a supply for "all
the year round," which is another milestone on the progressive way.
The new roses, Aryurican Beauty and William F. Bennett, introduced in 1885,
have proved so far very desirable, and may be safely placed among tlie list of good
tilings. Tlie new candidates this year are 2'he Bride, a sport from Catherine
Mermet, w^hich seemingly has all the good qualities of its parents, and Her Maj-
esty, which as yet has not had a fair opportunity to flower.
EXHIBITIONS THE CAUSE OF DEVELOriNG THE BUSINESS.
There are so many divisions in our calling that what 1 have to say is applicable
to all. Don't be afraid to exhibit whatever you have to dispose of. Do it always.
Make exhibitions, join your local societies, and be there with something. Never
mind if you do not happen to secure the first prize ; everybody cannot have the
first prize until the millenium ; go again and show next time. Wliile you are
aiming to get first prizes, you are doing good to your business and floriculture
generally.
,If there had been no exhibitions, half of the number of florists would not be in
the business, and the other lialf never could have come to Philadelpliia to-day.
Exliibitions made Baroness Rothschild, Magna Gharta, and Paul Neron roses
realize tJie prices that they have. Exhibitions made the forcing of Dutch bulbs
assume such proportions. Exhibitions made the sale of chrysanthemums for the
past two years foot up to a million of plants. So don't go away with the impres-
sion that exhibitions are useless, and that if you do not happen to have a roll of
bills to take home with you from each one that you are tlie loser. You are sow-
ing the seed, the crop of which will be harvested as it ripens — the more you sow,
the larger the crop.
Some, I am sorry to say, are not interested in public exhibitions, from the fact
12 PEOCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
that they are always tliinking of the cost and too much of the time ; but I can
assure you that it is money and time well expended.
By the aid of the press, even outside of the professional, tlie society has obtain-
ed a very widespread reputation. We cannot forget how much interest the Cin-
cinnati press took in our first convention. Nearly all the professional papers and
magazines also had representatives there, and the society is greatly indebted to
them all. It was there that The Am".rican Florist ixnd Populai- Gardening made
their first appearance.
The country is still in need of a comprehensive, well-managed horticultural
weekly, one that will give sound information on all gardening matters in such a
manner as to be easily understood by our many patrons who are pining for cor-
rect information.
The backbone of the florist's business lias been much strengthened tlie past few
years by the accession of so many gentlemen having a taste for floriculture and
the means to gratify it. It is to this class that we have to look for our best sup-
port. Many build fine houses, lay their grounds out tastefully, and at once begin
to look around for something more. First, perhaps a half-dozen roses and the
same number of shrubs are bought from some itinerant agent ; though the prices
charged are high, and the roses do not bloom every day, nor theslirubs have scar-
let and blue flowers on at tlie same and all tiie time, the ground has been turned
over and an interest awakened. This is followed by tlie addition of a bed of
roses from the local florist, then a plantation of bulbs, and so on until in a short
time a fine collection is gathered together, and the next gentleman becomes in-
terested. This is a trade worth cultivating, as in nine cases out of ten the actual
money outlay is not a consideration when satisfaction is given. To illustrate
what can be done by such an acquaintance, I will relate to you what occurred to
a friend whom you all know.
It was a blustering day in March, 1883, when a ruddy-faced gentleman and his
groom, in a two-wheeled vehicle drawn by two horses, tandem, abruptly pulled
up in front of our friend's greenhouses. The gentleman, alighting, asked for
some one who could sell him roses, and remarked that he wanted none but the
best plants, but must liave the following kinds: Ma Capucine, NijjJietos, Cornelia
Cook, Catharine Merrnet, Souvenir d''un A7ni, Perle des Jardins, Madame Cusin,
Bon Silene, Magna Charta, Baroness liothschild, General Jacqueminot, Anna de
Diesbach and Marechal Neil. Our friend, the florist, listened attentively, and
then the following (]uestions and answers were given :
" What do you intend doing with these roses ?"
"I want them to plant in my garden to flower all summer."
" How did you obtain such a list ? "
" I have always been interested in roses, and so during the winter, whenever I
have attended either a dinner or reception, I made it a point to get the names o'f
the roses from whoever I could, so as to have the best, and the list I have given
you pleased me the most, as I saw the flowers ; and I want them to live out all
winter."
" Well, out of the whole list you have given me, there are just four varieties
that will answer your purpose. I can supplement those four by twelve or more
kinds that will give you satisfaction. "
Which he did, and the result was that this same gentleman has to-day five
hundred roses in his garden because he was well advised. He wants now all the
new roses that will fill the bill. Last year he obtained six plants of American
SUCIETT OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 13
Beauty at three dollars apiece ; this year six of Her Majesty at two dollars and a
half each ; and this is not all, for he advertises our florist friend among all his
friends, and I know tliat tliis same florist has done over two thousand dollars'
worth of business. Why ? Because when the list of roses so unsuitable for the
purpose was condemned and suitable ones recommended, 3onfidence was gained
and they became fast friends.
AMERICAN SKEDLINGS.
Tiie raising of new varieties of plants from seed, I am pleased to say, is receiv-
ing more attention than formerly ; but yet this is not carried out to the extent
that it ought to be.
It is a branch of floriculture w^orthy of the greatest encouragement, and is
fraught with a great amount of good, as we are to-day too much dependent upon
importations for our new introductions. The new varieties obtained from impor-
tations are about ninety-five per cent, against home productions, and when it is
acknowledged that, as a rule, more than two thirds of those imported are never
heard of after the first or second year's cultivation, it is time for us to be up and
doing. I know it is frequently remarked that we have already too many varie-
ties of plants and flowers, and that the old varieties are good enough. If tliis
doctrine had always been believed, where should we look to-day for our Ferle des
Jardin, J\Jei-met, Bride, Bennett, or American Beauty roses, our Graudiflorum
chrysanthemums, America verbenas, or Golden Dawn geraniums ? In fact, none
of the fine varieties of flowei-s grown to-day would have ever been known had
those to whom we are indebted for the best of everything believed that the
old varieties were good enougli. I want to impress upon you all that the very
best old varieties were once new. In connection with this, I wish to say to the
young members of our society, tliat as soon as ever you get back again to busi-
ness, select some popular plant for improvement. Begin raising seedlings by
judicious cross-fertilization and careful selection ; use sound judgment in laying
the foundation and a model to guide you in building; then, by patience and per-
severance, the results will be more than satisfactory ; furthermore, I can promise
you, after long years of experience, one of the most delightful pursuits there is
in the world. The task is never finished, and, with perseverance, results far more
than expected will be realized.
I am afraid I cannot guarantee you very large fortunes of money in following
this particular line of business, but you can make a fortune of another kind,
such as Bryant, Emerson and Longfellow made and left us. We are the poets
in our spheres, and those who are devoted to the raising of new varieties will be
remembered, if not as millionaires, as having contributed something toward
life's enjoyment.
AVe have reason to congratulate ourselves over what the society has accom-
plished during the past year. It will be remembered that we had to fight an ob-
noxious postal bill in Congress, which proposed to double the amount of postage
on all plants, bulbs, and seeds. With the interest which the members have
taken, and the work of the committee that visited Washington to oppose the
passage of the bill, no change was made in the rates of postage. Now, I main-
tain that if the society has done no further good than to defeat this bill, we have
reason to be well satisfied.
I will ask you to consider at this meeting a plan of electing members, wherein
we shall have some protection against imposition. We have been very happy to-
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gether so far, and I think we should endeavor to keep so. If nothing ntiore is
done, candidates for membership sliould be indorsed by at least two members.
IN MEMOKIAM.
And now conies the saddest part of my duty. I have to report that four of
onr members liave been removed by Him who will ultimately remove us all.
First on tlie list is William Bennett, a man known the country over as a
thorough horticulturist, equally well informed in all of its branches ; a grower
of plants without an equal ; a genial friend, loved and respected by all who knew
him.
Second is Henry J. Sackersdorff, who had established himself as one of
the most expert rose-growers. Ambitious, honorable, full of knowledge, desirous
to please, his late employer pays high tribute to his work.
Tliird, James Hodges, a man long connected with the profession and greatly
respected.
The last one is James Young Murkland, a member of our executive com-
mittee, for eight years the secretary of the Xew York Horticultural Society,
secretary of tlie American Seed Trade Association, and connected with tlie house
of Young & Elliott for twenty years. He was one of the shining lights in liis
profession, was devoted to horticulture, most brilliant in conversation, a verita-
ble encyclopaedia of knowledge, full of ambition, and no truer friend ever lived.
His loss to us all is irreparable.
(Note. — Upon the conclusion of his address, at this point, President
Thorpe was privately informed of an announcement in a New York
journal of this date, wdien he made the following additional statement : )
Mr. Thorpe : Ladies and gentlemen : It is my sad duty to announce
that the name of another of our members has been added to the list
of the dead. I read in the New^ York Sun^ of this morning, that Mr.
Boomkamp died very suddenly yesterday. The statement is as fol-
lows :
" William H. Boomkamp, of Passaic, an importer of flower bulbs at 47 Broad-
way, New York, died yesterday of an overdose of laudanum, which he liad taken
for insomnia. He was one of the last passengers taken from the sinking Oregon,
and was going to Holland this fall to be married to a lady in Amsterdam."
treasurer's report.
Mr. Myron A. Hunt, of Chicago, (Treasurer of the Society,) in re-
sponse to the call of the chair, said :
Mr. President and gentlemen : The Treasurer has to report for the fiscal year
ending August 17, 1886, as follows:
" The Society of American Florists, in account with M. A. Hunt, treasurer.
Receipts.
By balance from 1885, $183 00
By membership fees for 1886, '. 687 00
$870 00
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 15
Disbursements.
To gas bills at Cincinnati, Ohio, $13 76
To rent, paper, tables, etc., 44 00
To stenographer, 62 75
To postage and stationery, 41 15
To printing reports, stationery, etc., 271 90
To bill for postage, stationery, telegraphing, expressage, etc., 132 90
To expense account of secretary, 25 00
To additional salary voted secretary for 1885, 50 00
To secretary's percentage for 1885 and 1886, 68 70
To premiums offered at Philadelphia Chrysanthemum show, 50 00
To lithogruplis, 10 60
To badges for Philadelphia meeting, 60 00
To cash on hand, 39 24
$870 00
Examined and found correct.
J. N. May.
ROIJERT J. HALLIDAY.
John Tuorpe.
The Treasurer would report further that the membership for this year, a large
portion of which is now present, is four hundred and fifteen.
As some of the members present failed to receive a copy of the proceedings of
our last annual meeting, and may have felt aggrieved or annoyed thereat and
blamed the secretary for it, it is perhaps only just that 1 should state that the
failure occurred through no fault of our secretary. The cause of it was this :
During the day on which the convention attended the reception given to it at
Dayton by the Cincinnati florists, all the papers which had accumulated during
the sessions of the convention were stolen by some one. This happened in our
transit from Dayton to Cincinnati. It, of course, removed from beyond our reach
all data relating to the payment of the membersliip fees. The cash accounts
with the society were proved correct because the Treasurer knew the amount of
money belonging to the society, and was not dependent for that data upon the
books which were lost. I would state further, that any member who did not
receive it will be able to obtain the report of the Cincinnati meeting, during the
meeting now being held, from the secretary.
secretary's report.
Mr. E. GuRNEY Hill, of Richmond, Indiana, (the secretary,) being-
next called npon, came forward and read his report. It ^vas as fol-
lo"ws :
August IS, 1886.
Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen:
The executive committee met in Philadelphia November 11,1885, and a second
meeting was held April 1, 1886, at Summit, New Jersey, wlien the programme
was revised and a few changes made. The subjects had been selected with great
care as to their general interest, and assigned to gentlemen well able to present
them clearly. The essayists will give us little theory, probably, but we shall have
the benefit of their actual experience.
16 PROCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
The past year has been a very busy one, the society grownig fast, and inspiring
interest among florists everywhere. Of the work accomplished we must not fail
to record tlie defeat of Senator Wilson's bill proposing an increased rate of post-
age on fourth class matter. I believe the sharp eye of Mr. Alexander Murdoch
detected the first move in this matter. He promptly reported to ti)e society, the
officers went to work, and the members at call displayed an energy, promptness,
and unanimity of action most commendable in an organization not two years
old. This occasioned a great deal of correspondence, in which your secretary
was almost completely submerged. Letters, protests, telegrams, editorials, cir-
culars, poured in on the Senate committee having this in charge, until they must
have decided that tiie florists of tlie country are an innumerable throng. Mr.
Wilson' not only withdrew his bill, but presented a second one, calling for a re-
duction of postage on plants, scions, buds and bulbs. It will be well for us as a
society to watch closely any proposed changes in postal rates.
The interest in our second annual meeting was manifested very early in the
year, and promptly, May 15, we began work with the railroads for securing good
rates. Owing to pool arrangements, both East and West, the work has been at-
tended with most exasperating difficulties. AVe are sure that Messrs. Hunt,
Thorpe, Craig, Vaughan, Whitnall, and others will verify the statement that up
to a very late date our dealings with these corporations were unsatisfactory and
vexatious in the extreme. After over two months of correspondence and fre-
quent journeyings to secure personal conference with railroad officials, we, at the
last moment, obtained a reasonable rate over one of the great Trunk lines.
This has given us great satisfaction, although arrangements were perfected so
late that we could advertise it only by personal letters.
The society numbers on its roll the leading florists of the country, and also a
majority of the young, energetic, pushing men of the craft. By a little personal
work on the part of each member, it can be made to double its enrollment in a
short time.
The best feeling prevails, and your secretary wishes to express his gratitude
for the unifoi m courtesy so kindly extended him in the prosecution of society
business. He has, however, one suggestion to offer : When a member of tiie so-
ciety takes the name and fee of a new member, it should be reported to the treas-
urer or secretary at once. The secretary needs the name of every member of the
society immediately upon entering, that any society notices, programmes, re-
ports, or papers may be forwarded promptly. When a name is withheld and not
reported till the annual meeting, the new member loses all the society notices up
to that time. Most of our members who have induced others to join with us
have retained the names until the annual meeting, and then reported their list
of accessions. This has led to much unnecessary correspondence, as these new
members almost invariably write the secretary, reporting their payment of dues-
and asking why he has not forwarded receipt, report and badge. As they be-
lieve their fee has been promptly forwarded, and no attention paid them, a sus-
picion of carelessness is created, and a lack of confidence in the secretary.
While making suggestions, I would also propose that the society pay the mile-
age of the members of the executive committee to the executive committee meet-
ing, as too great an expense is entailed upon these gentlemen.
I wish to apologize for not a few imperfections in last year's report, and also
for the misspelling of names. To avoid this the coming year, members address-
ing the president will please give their names and States, that the officers may
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLOBISTS. 17
easily identify tliem and place tlie names, properly spelled, against the words
uttered.
Weliave to report the death of five members during tlie year : Mr. J. Hodges
Globe Village, Massachusetts: William Bennett, Flatbush, New York; H. j]
Sackersdorff, Bayside, New York ; James Y. Murkland, New York city, and
William Oberly, Richmond, Indiana.
At the close of this, meeting, 1 shall return to the society the trust held by me
since the preliminary organization. Press of private business compels me to de-
cline further service in this capacity. I have tried to fill conscientiously and to
the best of my ability this important office. The work connected with the secre
taryship increases yearly, and the measure of time required is no small item.
With a high appreciation of the honor conferred, I return you hearty thanks for
your kind cooperation.
The Chairman (Vice President Craig) : The next business, accord-
ing to the programme, is " enrollment of new members and payment
of dues;" but, at the request of the secretary, if there is no objection,
we will defer that for the present, and take up the order which imme-
diately follows on the programme, viz : An essay upon " What the
Craft has been Doing the Past Forty Years."
The gentleman who presents this paper has been, for almost half
a century, in the front rank of liorticulture in this country. He has
made his mark by unflagging perseverance and successful effort. I
have the pleasure of introducing to you the essayist, Mr. Peter Hen-
derson, of Jersey City Heights, New Jersey.
Mr. Peter Henderson here made his appearance at the president's
desk, and was cordially greeted by the society in long-continued ap-
plause. He read as follows :
Like nearly everything else in this fast age of the world, floriculture has made
an advance in the past forty years so astonishing that the wonder is, when we
look back, how, in so many things, our operations were tin n so primitive and
crude.
Forty years ago, I doubt if there was a green-house having a fixed roof, on the
whole continent in use for commercial i)urposes ; at least, I have no remembrance
of ever having seen one until about 18-57, when the system was advocated by
Peter B. Mead, in the NewYork Horticulturist. Previous to that time, all green-
house structures for commercial purposes were formed of portable sashes, and
nearly all were constructed as '• lean-to's," with high back walls, and none were
connected— all were separate and detached— placed at all angles, witliout system
or plan. Then the heating was nearly all done by horizontal smoke-flues, al-
though here and there was a crude attempt at heating by hot water, by some
private individuals for their own use, as early as 1835 ; but the first use of heat-
ing by hot water on anything like a large scale was done in 1839, by Plitchings &
Co., who heated a large conservatory for Mr. William Niblo, of New York ; and
from that time until nearly twenty years after heating by hot water was almost
exclusively confined to green-houses and graperies or private places, as few pro-
fessional gardeners in those days could afford to indulge in such luxuries. All
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the work liad to be done by smoke-flues, whicli, together with the green-house
structures, was usually the work of their own hands.
Heating green-houses by steam, to tlie best of ray information, was unheard
of in tiie United States at that date, though I am informed by Mr. Isaac Buch-
anan, of New York, that wiien he was employed in the Botanic (hardens of Ed-
inburgh, Scotland, as early as 1S30, the green-houses there, whicli consisted of
fifteen thousand square feet of glass, were successfully heated by steam, but that
later for some reason this method had been abandoned, and hot water had been
substituted. So it would appear that the use of steam heating witli us to-day is,
like many otlier things in human progress, but the revival of a lost art.
To give an instance of how excellent methods hnig in use have been abandoned
and forgottoii, I may mention that some fifteen years ago, on a visit to Philadel-
phia, on calling on our friend, AV. K. Harris, lie showed me where, with one fire,
he successfully heated a green-house twenty by one iiundred feet, by tiie excellent
plan of returning the flue so that the chimney was^ placed on top of the furnace.
It was, no doubt, original witii Mr. Harris, and I gave him the credit of the inven-
tion, which I described in the American AyrkuUurist of that date. But it had no
sooner been printed than a gentleman in Salem, Massachusetts, wrote me, say-
ing that if I would refer to the transactions of the London Horticultural So-
ciety for 1822, 1 would find the same plan there described ; but like many -other
valuable things it had been lost sight of and forgotton, for there were few books,
and fewer magazines, obtainable by the gardeners in those days.
Heating green houses by steam here for commercial purposes was, I believe,
first successfully practiced by E. H. Bochman, in Pittsburgh, about 1875, but it
is only in the past five years tliat its merits have been so fully proved.
Progress is slow in many things, mainly for the reason that publicity is not
given to new ideas ; hence the great value of such an association as ours. It is
somewhat singular that few, if any, of the large green-house establishments in
Eng'and yet use st^am ; and it may be that we are yet to show tiiem that it is
not only much cheaper, but, I believe also, the best method of heating for any
green-house structure having five thousand square feet of glass.
Not only has a great advance been made in the structure of green-houses and
their heating, but methods of propagating and growing plants have also been
much improved upon. The propagator, forty years ago, for the few large estab-
lishments in the country, was generally imported from England, and was usu-
ally a most important personage- often full of mystery and overweening con-
ceit, wlio guarded liis knowledge, of which lie had often not a very large stock,
witli a miser's hand. One of these gentlemen was a sort of autocrat in the
green-house establishment of the late Robert Buist, when I worked there in
184-4. lie not only refused to impart any knowledge he possessed on the subject,
but actually locked tlie door of the propagating house against all his fellow em-
ployes ; and he was sadly put out one day when a sarcastic wag tacked to the door
of the propagating house the following transposition of Goldsmith's famous
couplet :
'' And still we gaze, and still the wonder grows,
How one small head can carry all he knows."
We are glad to know that few of that ilk can get a foothold here to-day. The
knowledge of propagating has now been so diffused by books and magazines de-
voted to floriculture, and the rules laid down are so simple, tliat all the mystery
that was thrown around it in those early days has been dispelled. But every
SOCIETY OF AMEEICAN FLORISTS. 19
now and then— even now — we find some fellow arrogating to himself some
" special secret " in onr trade. There are no secrets in liorticultnre. The laws
that govern the germination of a seed, the rooting of a cutting, or tlie taking
of a bud or graft, are the same now as tliey were a thousand years ago, and any
one pretending to a " special '* knowledge (unknown to others) in the matter is
eitlier an ignoramus or an impostor. Of course experience or special advantages
give a knowledge that the want of such cannot give. But the underlying prin-
ciples never change, tliough undoubtedly in the methods of making them avail-
able, we have made vast strides in tliis country, particularly in the matter of
propagating, in tlie past twenty years. Whether we liave made mucli advance
in the classes of plants grown now, from what was grown forty years ago,
there may be some question. Certain it is tliat there were many fine varieties
of plants then grown whicli we fail to find to-day, particularly in tiie hard
wooded or New Holland section, such as heaths, epacris, correas, pimelias, etc.,
etc. Mr. Buist, of Philadelphia, and Mr. Hogg, of New York, over lialf a
century ago, both had collections rich in these classes, together with nearly every-
thing desirable in stove and green-house plants, but they gradually became
diminished, as it was found that their culture was attended with special care
in our hot and dry summers. Sales diminished in consequence, and their collec-
tions were allowed to run down, to be replaced by such plants as were found to be
better adapted to our tropical summers.
But the most wonderful advance in floriculture has been in the construction of
cut flowers into bouquets and other designs. Forty years ago, in New York, in
constructing a simple hand bouquet, some of us did not know enough to use a
thread to keep each flower in place as the construction went on, and it was some
years later that the center stick was used to steady the structure. The wire de-
sign man did not put in an appearance until nearly twenty years later, and when
a cross or wreath of flowers had to be made, the one was usually constructed on
pieces of lath on which the flowers were tied, and the floral wreath had the
ground-work of a piece of old barrel lioop or a willow twig. The bouquet was usu-
ally a one-sided affair, the ground-work being a^flat buncii of arbor vitae through
which the flowers were drawn. Occasionally, a round bouquet was attempted by
some artist of local fame, but with a result that must have done violence to the
feelings of the poor flowers that were used in the structure.
Tlie character of the flowers used for cut flower puri)oses has also been radical-
ly changed; forty years ago camellia flowers freely retailed at one dollar each,
and Philadelphia used to send thousands to New York florists at the holidays,
getting five hundred dollars per thousand ; while roses were then going a beg-
ging at one tenth of that sum. Now the rose is queen indeed, and the poor came-
lia finds none so poor as to do her homage. The culture of tuberoses came a
little hiter. I find from an old schedule of prices that in 1865 tuberoses were
quoted in November at eight dollars per hundred, and a reference to my own
books shows that in that year my receipts from a house ten by one hundred feet
of tuberoses sold for fifteen hundred dollars in November; now tliey are rarely
sold at all in New Yoi'k unless to the poorest classes— Dame Fashion has stamp-
ed them out, as she, twenty years before, stamped out camellia flowers, -and just
here comes the question, may there not be danger of a rebound in the rose boom?
May there not be danger ahead in so many of us placing so many eggs in one
basket, fascinating though the basket be V
The increase in the sales of all products of floriculture in the past forty years
20 PROCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
has certainly kept pace with most other industries, and has probably exceeded
many. In January of 1844, I was employed by a New York florist, who did near-
ly the whole business of the city at tiiat time. His sales of cut flowers for New
Year's day of that year footed up the sum of two hundred dollars, I have but
little doubt that the aggregate sales of cut flowers in the city of New York, on
the first of January, 1886, were not less tlian one hundred thousand dollars, and
the aggregate for the past year cannot be short of three millions, which is prob-
ably twice that of any European city of its size. An equal advance has been
made in the output of plants. We have good reason to believe that Mr. William
Elliott, the well-kiiown horticultural auctioneer of New York city, often sells
more plants in two hours from lijs warerooms than were sold during a whole
season by the florists of New York in 1844. I know that he repeatedly sells at
one sale fifty tiiousand plants; and it is exceedingly doubtful if that number was
sold in New York during the whole year in 1844. Tlie past season there was
probably shipped and sold in the market and at auction not less than fifty mil-
lions of flowering and ornamental plants, of which perhaps one tenth was sold at
auction. The aggregate value of tiie sales can only be approximated, but I
should tliiiik it safe to say tliat the average would be quite five cents apiece, or
two million five hundred thousand dollars. Miss E. L. Taplin, a most careful
writer, in an article in the January number of the Floral Cabinet for 1886, says :
"According to the best information, there arc over eight thousand florists es-
tablished in business in this country, who, with their work people, make a con-
siderable showing in tlie population. Tlie number of Americans engaging in the
business increases yearly, for, thougli England contributes the largest quota to
the trade, with Germany and France following closely, Americans are now wak-
ing up to the possibilities of the business. Allowing foqr hundred feet of glass-
covered surface to each florist, — a low estimate, — would give a total of three mil-
lion two hundred thousand feet, or six hundred and thirty acres of glass surface,
liast year the tr;ule sold twenty-four million cut roses, and one hundred and
twenty million carnation flowers."
If the business increases in the -same ratio for the next forty years, rest assured
the now somewhat humble florist will have a place in the community; and that
the increase will be even greater, tliere is good reason to believe. In the early
days of floriculture, nearly all tlie men engaging in the business were old coun-
trymen, who iiad been private gardeners, often lacking in education and intelli-
gence, and utterly untrained, from the nature of their occupation, in business
habits. Now hundreds of young men, with tiieir better opportunities of educa-
tion, are training direct in tlie business in all sections of the country; and I
think it safe to predict that the leading florists, forty years hence, will be far
better business men than even the most prominent among us now. And it may
be that if, when the Society of American Florists meets again in this good old
city four decades hence, some other veteran, now a stripling here to-day, will
tell, as I have done, of tlie primitive ways of the craft as practiced " forty years
ago."
The Chair^ian : I am sure you will agree with me when I say that
the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Henderson) has given us a very
interesting paper, and one which, when it appears in the reports of
the society, will bear reading more than once.
I see by the programme that the committee has arranged, and I
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 21
think very wisely, that we shall devote a little time to a glance at the
past. There are many gentlemen present — veterans in the service —
whose experience wonld give great valne and interest to their words,
and I hope they will now, as the spirit moves them, favor us with some
of the results of their observations. If no one is prepared to respond,
I will take the liberty of calling on Mr. Saunders, of Chicago, for a
few remarks.
Mr. Edgar Saunders, of Chicago, (correspondent of The Prairie
Farmer^) responded to the call of the chair, as follows:
Mr. Chairman., ladies and gentlemen: I did not come prepared to
make a single remark at this meeting, having other business before
me ; but as one of those who may probably be considered as the older
members, having been engaged in the business of floriculture nearly
as far back as the time to which the author of the essay, Mr. Hender-
son, has referred — although what we at that time thought was consid-
erable of a business was, in fact, but a small affair as compared with
the transactions of any one of many floriculturists in later days — I
will venture to make one or two suggestions in response to the call.
One thought that occurred to me as our friend, Mr. Peter Hender-
son, was speaking was this, that we are greatly indebted for the ad-
vancement of florists' interests in this country to the public parks,
which are becoming well distributed all over the country and are even
appearing in our wild West. The floral plantings and displays which
are invariably seen in these parks are proving of great benefit in giv-
ing the public an insight into the beauties of floriculture, and attract-
ing popular attention to the styles of flowering plants and to their
appearance when in masses. Possibly the time may never come when
the private grounds of our wealthy fellow-citizens in this country will
compare in extent with like inclosures in the old world, although you
have here in the East, I understand, some pretty large private places ;
and therefore the public parks are, for that reason, more worthy of
commendation because of the facilities they aftbrd for attracting atten-
tion to and imparting information concerning the skill of the florist
and the value of his work. These floral combinations are sometimes
rather fanciful ; and I have heard it said by men in the trade — and I
believe the observation is a common one in Europe — that these odds
and ends that are to be seen in parks are hardly worthy of the atten-
tion of florists, but I repeat that they are of great value in educating
the popular taste. I have often observed in Chicago the attention
which the outlines of animals, of sun-dials, of portraits and repre-
sentations of floral carpet Avork have attracted. A portrait of General
Grant, last year, is specialh' worthy of mention in connection with
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this phase of the subject. On the other hand, a fine piece of planting,
the only object of which is to show the peculiarities and beauties of
the individual plants, would be comparatively unnoticed by the public.
With respect to the bouquet business, to which the essayist has re-
ferred, I have to say a word. In 1853, the city of Albany, of which I
was then a resident, was supposed to be unable to furnish bouquets
that were considered sufficiently handsome for bridal purposes. My
friend Hendrick, if present, will undoubtedly say they can do it now.
I was then a private gardener in that city, and was requested by my
employer to procure from New York citj^ bouquets for a bride. These,
when they arrived, ai^peared to be so different from any I had seen
that I proceeded at once to ascertain exactly of what they were com-
posed. Notes were made bj^ me of the results of my investigation as
I proceeded, and I now regret liaving left those notes at my home, as
by reading them here I could " a tale unfold " that would astonish
this society. (Merriment.) I began my work on a bouquet by pick-
ing off portions on the outside, piece by piece, and unwinding the
thread which held the whole in place. I found tliat the flowers were
fastened to pieces of rushes, and, upon concluding my labors, dis-
covered that I had unwound a quantity of cotton thread whicli, in
actual length, exceeded that usually contained on an ordinary sized
spool. It was a fanciful-looking arrangement, liaving three or four or
more camelias interwoven in it. I do not know where that bouquet
was made, but I do kno^v that its method of composition led me to do
some thinking in regard to it, and I can positively say that I made a
number of such bouquets afterwards, and they were said to be " very
nice." (Renewed merriment.)
Another reminiscence that occurs to me — one that jjerhaps Mr.
Peter Henderson and others of the older members have knowledge
of — has reference to the horticultural societies that were started then
and whicli I was accustomed to attend. If my recollection is correct,
some difficulty was experienced at that time in inducing people to at-
tend the exhibitions given by such societies. I recollect well the ef-
forts made to that end, and the fact that a number of fancy plants
were brought down to the place for our exhibition from Albany. Mr.
Menand often brought there some heaths and various plants of that
sort of the best possible growth.
I observe, among the members present, a gentleman from the city
from which I come who has long been, and still is, practically engaged
in the business of a florist, while my own time has been largely occu-
pied by my duties in connection with the press. That gentleman and
I have had some battles upon the issue between us as to whether he
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS.
or I made the first venture in florieultnre. He may,
mind some reminiscences of that early time to which
I allude to Mr, Charles Reissig, of Chicago, X^
The Chairman (having had a consultation with the geni
called upon) stated that Mr. Reissig requested to be excu^^^^ from *^
speaking at this time, and that his rec^uest was granted, but that Tbe —
convention would expect to hear from that gentleman before its close.
He added that ten minutes remained of the time which had been
set apart, according to the programme, for " Reminiscences by mem-
bers of the society,"
Mr, Robert McCrox, of Thompsonville, Connecticut, addressed the
chair. He remarked that he thought the time would be more profit-
ably occupied, and the duty of the society performed, if attention was
now given to the i)resent wants and interests of florists and the mere
reminiscences of the past temporarily ignored. He asserted that the
prosperity of floriculture, like that of all other businesses, depended
upon the workingraen engaged in it rather than upon the enunciation
of mere theories such as the convention had heard to-day.
He continued : No trade or occupation can be successful except by
the cooperation of the workingmen engaged in it. You cannot write
a book, build a steam engine, or drive a plough without calling upon
the workingman to help you. We are here as laboring men to look
the facts in regard to our business fairly in the face, and to con-
sider the actual condition of that business ; but, before this conven-
tion breaks up, we Avill discuss whether steam or hot water is the bet-
ter for heating, and, when we have got through with the subject, no
living mortal man will be able to tell whether there is any reason for
preferring one to the other. We will discuss whether this or that
house is the better kind for keeping our plants in good condition, and,
after it all, we will say that we really cannot tell which is the better.
We have made no real improvements or actual advancement in our
art as compared with the progress of other industries. The discovery
of the cotton-gin brought the price of cotton down at once, but what
invention in our art has saved any labor?
The Chairman here reminded the speaker of the necessity, in view
of the limited time remaining, of confining his remarks more closelv
to the subject for discussion.
Mr. McCron responded with an emphatic " yes, sir," but, regardless
of the admonition of the chair, went on in the general line of thought
upon which he had started, creating much amusement by his earnest-
ness. He continued :
What I want to do at this stage of the convention is to set men
24 PROCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
thinking on what they are doing, and on where they have arrived in
their business. Now, it is said there are so many flowers and phmts
auctioned in New York, and I say that the auctioning of flowers and
I)lants has injured every workingman here and every other one in the
business, and has taken from the workingman his bread. It is the
truth I tell you, gentlemen. I hold in my hand a resolution on this
subject, which I desire to present.
The Chairman here explained tliat the presentation of resolutions
not being in order at this time, lie was obliged to ask the gentleman
from Connecticut to withhold his proposition for the present, as ample
opportunity for its consideration would be allbrded at a subsequent
stage of the proceedings. He added that as economy of time was de-
sirable, the convention would be glad to liear, in the ten minutes re-
maining, from some of the older memliers present. The chair then
named, as one whom he thought well qualifled to instruct and interest
the audience, Mr. C. L. Allen.
IN MEMORIAM — JAMES Y. MURKLAND.
Mr. C. L. Allen, of Garden City, New Jersey, came forward and
said :
Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen : Our President, Mr. Thorpe,
in referring a few days ago to a subject that has not been mentioned
here, asked me to speak to you upon it. I allude to the death of our
friend, ]\Ir. James Y. IMurkland. As I cannot trust to my memory in
the presence of an audience such as the one I have now the honor to
address, I have committed my thoughts to paper, and will now read
what 1 have written.
It is pleasant to speak of a departed friend when little, if any,
occasion exists for mental reservation. It is doubly sweet to say a
kind w^ord when it can be said impartially, and when we are free from
that bias wdiicli evolves from a long personal friendship. In a busi-
ness way, I have known Mr. Murkland well for the past fifteen years.
During this time, we were ever friendly, but never intimate friends
until the day previous to his death. We had much to do with each
other in the society work, and we differed materially in our methods,
as well as in social and political ethics, yet we Avorked together in the
most perfect harmony, and respected each other's opinions and feel-
ings most sacredly. While his opinions were of a positive character,
based upon his keen perception of right and duty, and ui)on Avhat he
considered the best possible way of accomplishing a given purpose,
at the same time, if a better plan than his was shown, he would lay
aside his own opinions and adopt the better, and would do this most
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. ZO
cheerfully and with alacrity. His was in many respects a most beau-
tiful character. I do not pretend to say he was faultless ; men with
positive opinions and strong personal characteristics seldom are. But
of James Y. Murkland, we can truly say that we have rarely met a
man in whom we saw more virtues to admire and imitate, and less
vices to abhor and shun.
It may be truly said of him, as Emerson said of John Bradshaw,
that "■ wherever he sat down, honor came and sat beside him." We
can add to this that integrity, purity, manly virtue, kindly sympathy,
the rich fruits of honor, ever followed him, not as sentinels, but they
were simply the outcroppings of his noble manhood, and followed him
as the needle follows the magnet. His industry, both i)hysical and
mental, w^as phenomenal. Rapidity of thought, happily blended with
executive ability, enabled him to accomplish tasks easily that many
would have thought impossibilities. He was to the New York Horti-
cultural Society what Samson was to the Philistines — a giant : and
had not that society been nourished from the fountains of his noble
intellect and indefatigable industry, it would have died from exhaus-
tion long aco.
While intellectual ability, persistent industry, and thorough hon-
esty were his marked characteristics, they were not alone all that
illumined his character. All these were results, throbbings of a high
moral and spiritual nature.
The CHAIE3IAN : As the hour for closing the morning's session is
rapidly approaching, we will now proceed with the enrollment of new
members and the payment of dues. The delegates will please come
forward to the secretary's desk. He is prepared to receive them.
(Note. — Complying with the invitation, the delegates to the con-
vention congregated around and in the vicinity of the table at which
the Secretary and Treasurer were stationed, and the work of enroll-
ment and receiving of dues occupied the time until noon.)
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EXHIBITION OF FLORISTS' SUPPLIES, ETC.
In the interim between the sessions, the delegates visited the lower
hall of the convention building, which had been reserved for the dis-
play of floral and other exhibits. The exhibition hall was well filled
with plants and flowers, pottery, green-house apparatus, appliances
for the destruction of insect life, specimens of lithograph and printing
Avork, model green-houses, a grand collection of cacti and aquatic
plants, and a variety of florists' suj^plies. This magnificent exhibition
remained open to the public throughout the four days' sessions of the
convention.
26 PROCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
FIRST DAY— Afternoon Session.
President Thorpe announced a change in the order of business for
to-day, (necessitated by the trip to Athmtic City to-morrow,) in con-
sequence of which the programme for the remainder of the day had
been re-adjusted so as to read as follows :
Afternoon Session.
Treatment of Tea Roses during the Summer, witli List of Best Bedding Vari-
eties, Antoine Wintzer, West Grove, Pa.
Hybrid Perpetual Roses for Out-door Summer Bloom, with List of Best Varieties,
John Henderson, Flushing, L. I.
Pot-grown Roses for Market Purposes : their Care and Treatment,
Robert Craig, Philadelphia.
Evening Session.
Fungoid Diseases of the Rose, . H. J. Sackersdorff, (dee'd,) Bayside, N. Y.
Model Green- [louses and How to Build Them . . John X. May, Summit, N. J.
Pot-grown Decorative Foliage Plants for General Purposes,
James Tapliv, Maywood, N. J.
Carnations and their Treatment, Joseph Tailby, Wellesley, Mass.
THE question-box.
The President here stated that the question-box, for the reception
of queries which any member might feel disposed to propound, had
been placed in position. He invited members to deposit therein any
pertinent questions upon which they desired information, and assured
them that these would receive attention at the earliest possible moment.
(Note. — A large printed placard containing tlie invitation just stated
by the President was here placed on the box to indicate its location
upon the platform, in a position where it was easily accessible.
committees on exhibits.
The President further announced that committees to make awards
on the exhibits displayed in the lower hall had been constituted as
follows :
On Cut Flowers — William K. Harris, Luther Armstrong, Alexander
Murdoch, Louis Siebrecht, William J. Stewart, A. D. Rohrer.
On Plants and Bulbs — James Taplin, R. J. Hallidaj^, W. C. Smith,
Robert George, Walter W. Coles, Avery Gallup.
On Florists'' Requisites and Supplies — Charles Reissig, W. H. Wil-
liams, H. A. Siebrecht, James Hendrick, James Griffiths, J. N. Gasser.
On Lithographs^ Printing^ and Miscellaneous — C. L. Allen, H. A.
Dreer, F. R. Pierson, Henry Sunderbruch, J. G. Heinl.
On Green- House Structures and Appliances — Peter Henderson, J.
T. Anthony, John Henderson, J. H. Taylor, Frank Pentland.
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLOEISTS. 27
The President stated that exhibitors would be required to have all
their goods in position at four o'clock, p. m., this day, and that the
committees would begin their labors two hours later, reporting at the
earliest posible moment.
The President here read a communication (received through Mr.
William F. Dreer, of Philadelphia,) from the Zoological Society, signed
by William Hacker, treasurer, tending to the Society of American
Florists an invitation to visit the Zoological grounds in Fairmount
Park.
The President also read the following communications:
Massachusetts Horticultural Society,
Boston, July 6, 1886.
At a meeting of the Massachusetts Horticultural Society, held July 3, 1886,
the following vote, offered by Edward L. Beard, was unanimously passed :
Voted, That the secretary be authorized to send to the Society of American
Florists, at their meeting in Philadelphia, August 18, a letter expressing tiie sym-
pathy of this society with the aims and efforts of the Society of Florists, and
that William J. Stewart be the bearer of the letter as the representative of this
society.
In pel-forming the duty devolved on me by this vote, I would say that as one of
tlie oldest horticultural societies in tliis country, we appreciate the advantage of
organization among the florists of the country. Although the commercial view
of floriculture may occupy a larger place in your discussions than it does in our
own, we know that those who gain their liveliliood by tlie cultivation of these
most charming productions of nature, also appreciate the beauty of the flowers
and foliage which they aim to bring to the utmost perfection ; and tliis society,
which lias done so mucli to develop horticulture as a means for the delight and
higher education of the people of this country, will welcome every effort made
by the florists of America to elevate and ennoble their calling.
Very respectfully,
Robert Manning,
Secretary Massachusetts Horticultural Society.
To E.G. Hill, Esq.,
Secretary of tlie Society of American Florists.
New Orleans Horticultural Society,
August 12, 1886.
To the Society of American Florists:
The bearer, Mr. John Eblen, will represent the New Orleans Horticultural So-
ciety at the meeting of American Florists in Pliiladelphia. As our representa-
tive and as a progressive florist, we take pleasure in recommending him to the
good ofllces of the Society of American Florists.
E. Dager,
President.
H. A. Despommier,
Seen tary.
28 PROCEEDINGS OF SECONIl CONVENTION.
Mr. Eblen, 111)011 invitation of the chair, here came forward and
was i^resented to the convention as the rei)resentative of tlie New
Orleans florists. The gentle.man bowed his acknowledgments and
retired.
The Chairman (Vice President Craig in the chair:) We will now
proceed with the regular order of business — a paper on " Treatment
of Tea Roses during the Summer, with List of Best Bedding Varie-
ties,'- by Mr. Antoine Wintzer, of West Grove, Pennsylvania ; a gen-
tleman who has, perhaps, had more experience with roses than any
other in this country.
Mr. Antoine Wintzer here appeared upon the platform, and, after
a friendly greeting from the convention, read the following paper:
TREATMENT OF TEA ROSES DURING THE SUMMER, AVITH LIST OF BEST
VARIETIES.
How sliould we treat our roses ? What is tlie best culture to give to liave them
grow ami bloom satisfactorily ? What is the best soil to plant in, and what slioukl
be done to keep off insects ? These and numerous other questions are frequently
asked by those purcliasing roses.
SELECTION OF SOIL AND LOCATION.
Roses thrive best in a good rich loam. The soil should not be too light, or so
heavy as to retain moisture after heavy rain-falls ; in the latter case, under-
drainage is necessary. Should the soil be inclined to bake hard after rains, a
judicious application of sand or coal ashes will prove beneficial. After suitable
soil has been selected, avoid planting near large trees, as the shading of tlie
ground robs the roses of sunlight required for a vigorous, healthy growth, and
the roots are equally injurious, as tiiey absorb the moisture necessary for the
proper nourislmient of tiie plants.
PREPARATION OF SOIL.
The proper preparation of the soil for roses is of the utmost importance. If
the plot of ground is large, it can be plowed to good advantage ; sink the plow
about nine or ten inches. A great deal depends on this ; as is well known, the
roots of roses run deeji, and should have every chance. After plowing in man-
ner described, the surface sliould be t'lorouglily pulverized with a good harrow,
followed by a land-roller, after which the ground will be in condition for planting.
In beds of ordinary size the operation can be better performed with a good spade,
with which the ground should be dug deeply and then carefully raked.
FERTILIZERS.
In our experience, the best results have always been obtained from the applica-
tion of well decomposed barn-yard manure in liberal quantities. When this can-
not conveniently be obtained, a dressing of fine bone-meal will give good results ;
it can be applied on the surface and raked in.
SELECTION OF PLANTS AND PLANTING.
The selection of roses for out-door planting sliould be carefully considered.
In our experience, we have always found that good healthy young plants, well
SOCIETY 'of AMERICAN FLORISTS. 29
grown ill two and one half or three inch pots, have usually given the best re-
sults. If immediate effect is the desired object, good plants from four to five
inch pots can be planted to advantage.
Tlie proper time for planting, as is understood, varies according to locality.
It is usually safe to plant roses when the fruit trees are in blossom. The distance
apart for planting depends on the manner of cultivation ; if it is intended to
work the roses with a horse, the rows should be three or three and one half feet
wide, and the plants from ten to twelve inches apart in the rows. In ordinary-
sized beds, where good effect is desired for tlie first season, the rows can be about
fourteen inches wide, and the plants ten inches apart in the rows. Before plant-
ing, the roots of plants should be well soaked with water. The proper way to
plant roses is to put them in a little deeper than they were growing in the pots.
It is now very important to press the earth firmly around the plants. Tliis can
easily be done with the foot, and will prevent the air from drying the roots and
also helps to retain the moisture. After this has been well done, the ground can
be leveled nicely around the plants. We usually prefer to use the back of the rake
for this purpose.
CULTIVATION.
After the roses have been planted a few days, the surface of the ground should
be lightly stirred with a hoe. This should be done with care, as many plants are
frequently injured by careless hoeing. After tlie roses have attained a fair
growth, they should be worked to the depth of three or four inches, but it must
always be understood that this operation should be done carefully, so as not to
injure the growing plants. In our opinion, the ground should be worked about
once a week until it is covered, after which any straggling weeds that may ap-
pear can be pulled by hand.
TREATMENT OF MILDEW AND GUU15-WORMS.
If the foliage of your roses become affected by mildew, dust them with fine
sulphur. Sometimes, after a rose has been growing finely for some weeks, it
suddenly hangs its head. In nearly all cases, this will be found to have been caused
by a thick white grub worm, from one half to three fourths of an inch in length,
which cuts the roots. The best method to get rid of this pest is to dig under
and around the affected plant, when they can mostly be found and destroyed,
preventing further ravages. This grub is the larva? of the common brown May
beetle, and is numerous in old sod ground. Should the plant be attacked by cater-
pillars, iiand picking is the best way to get rid of them— poisons are generally
unsafe.
THE SELECTION OF VARIETIES.
This is no easy task to undertake, for no matter how well informed in regard
to varieties in general, persons differ in taste and opinion, and what might be
considered a good variety f(.)r the purpose in question by one would be consid-
ered second or third-class by another, and for no specific reason. Then again,
some varieties are first-class in one section of the country, and almost worthless
in another. In this respect they are much like any other plant or shrub. ^^ early
all are good in localities adapted to their nature. When we take into considera-
tion the vast extent of our country, reaching from the Atlantic to the Pacific
oceans, and extending from the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico, it can easily
be understood that a variety suitable for the Eastern and Middle States would,
perhaps, be of little value in a Southern climate or in the Pacific States.
30
PEOCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTIOX.
With the preceding qualifications, I submit tlie following list of roses wliich,
in a general wa}-, have given the best results in this section. It will be noted
that many high-class varieties have been omitted ; this is because they could not
properly be classed under the heading of this article. Varieties of the following
classes are mentioned in this list: Tea, Bourbon, and China.
LIST OF GOOD BEDDING ROSES.
Agrippina.
Aline Sisley.
Anna OUiver.
Archduke Charles.
Archduchess Isabella.
Aurora.
Belle fleur d'Anjou.
Bon Silene.
Charles Rovelli.
Catharine Mermet.
Comtesse Riza du Pare.
Comtesse du Barbentanne.
Coquette de Lyon.
Cornelia Cook.
Cramoise Superieur.
David Pradel.
Devoniensis.
Douglas.
Ducliess de Brabant.
Duchess of Edinburgh.
Etoile de Lyon.
Gen. de Tartas.
Glorie de Dijon.
Hermosa.
Homer.
Isabella Sprunt.
Jean Ditcher.
Jean Fernet.
Jules Finger.
Laurette.
La Fhffinix.
La Princess Vera.
Letty Coles.
Louisa de la Rive.
Louis Richard.
LuculUis.
Mad. Bravy.
Mad. Bosanquet.
Mad. Camille.
Mad. de Vatry.
Mad. de Watteville.
Mad. Falcot.
Mad, Joseph .Schwartz.
Mad. Lambard.
Mad. Margottin.
Mad. Villermoz.
Mad. Welche.
Marie Duclier.
Marie Gulliot.
Marie Sisley.
Marie Van Iloutte.
Papa Gontier.
Perle des Jardins.
Red Malmaison .
Regal is.
Rose Nabonnand,
Rubens.
Safrano.
Sombreuil.
Souv. de la Malmaison.
Souv. de Mad. Fernet.
Souv, d'un Ami.
Vallee de Chamounix,
Upon the reading of the paper being concluded —
Mr, James Pentland, of Baltimore, said: I would like to ask the
gentleman (Mr, Wintzer) a question which I think is pertinent to the
subject. A rose that I heard him mention just now I have known
myself for the last forty-five or forty-eight years — the Cramoise Su-
perieu?\ I have bought that rose in three different places, and it has
turned out to be the old Rulens that I used to know forty-five or
forty-eight years ago ; and I think there are gentlemen here whose
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 31
experience has been the same as mine. I would like to have the
nomenclature of that rose determined so that I may know whether I
am correct. The gentlemen mentioned another rose as the Souvenir
dhm Ami. I would like to know whether he has allusion to that good
old rose, which is not a red rose exacth% but is a salmon-colored rose
like the Levison Gower. I bought that rose at three different places
out West for the Levison Gower., but it turned out to be the Souvenir
d'un Ami. I ask whether growers are not getting these names con-
fused.
Mr. WiNTZER : I beg pardon — I did not have Red Safrano on my
list. I called from the list Red Malmaison., a new rose that was sent
to us a few years ago from France. I grow Red Safrano-^ but I did
not put it in this list.
Mr. Pextland : I did not speak of Red Safrano., but of one that you
call Cramoise Superieur. It is a synonym of Agrippina., as Queen's
Scarlet is a synonym of Agrippina.
Mr. WiNTZER : I beg to say that I do not claim to be an authority on
rose nomenclature. I simply give you these names as I have them.
The French growers are supposed to know what they are raising — a
man is supposed to know his own children — and thej^ send us the
Cramoise Superieur by that name. The rose that we have grown as
Ruhens is one that is very similar in color and habit of growth to the
old Devoniensis. Unlike the gentleman from Baltimore, I cannot go
back in mj recollection forty-five years, for I am not forty-five years
of age. It is true, as he suggests, that errors in nomenclature may
have occurred in the past, but we cannot apply the remedy, as we are
.obliged to take history as we receive it. If the historian erred, how
are we to correct his error?
The Chairman : Permit me to state that Mr. Halliday, of Baltimore,
is expected to prepare a paper covering this matter. I do not know
that it will clear up the question as to the nomenclature of this partic-
ular rose, but I know that that gentleman has something to communi-
cate on subjects kindred to the one here referred to.
The Chairmax : The next paper is from one of our oldest and most
successful rose-growers. I am much pleased that we have the gentle-
man with us to-day, and I present to you Mr. John Henderson, of
New York.
Mr. JoHX Henderson, of Flushing, Long Island, New York, here
read an essay on " Hybrid Perpetual Roses for Out-door Summer
Bloom, with a List of Best Varieties." It is as follows :
32 PROCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
HYBRID PERPETUAL ROSES FOR OUT-DOOR SUMMER BLOOM.
It is, perhaps, unnecessary that I sliould go into the liistory of the rose, as tliat
is a subject that has been so often and so fully discussed by others more compe-
tent than myself. I will, tlierefore, only remark that the rose has been the ac-
knowledged " queen of flowers " for over two thousand years. It was Sappho, I
believe, who first christened the rose the " queen of flowers," and it still main-
tains that distinguished position, and probably will ever continue to do so. I
might here quote a few lines from her writings :
" Would Jove appoint some flower to reign
In matchless beauty on the plain,
The rose (mankind will all agree) —
The rose, the queen offlowers should be."
Hybrid perpetual roses are so called from crossing the hybrid China and hybrid
Bourbon with the China, Bourbon and tea-scented varieties, by this means ob-
taining serai-perpetual blooming roses, which are named by the French growers
Iti/bridcs rcniontantes— that is. roses that throw up flowers again. They are among,
the most beautiful of our summer-flowering roses, having size, color and frag-
rance combined. They are of quite modern origin, the first of the race only dat-
ing back to 1837. At first there was a great similarity in color, but the improve-
ments made during the last thirty years have been so great that we now have al-
most every siiade of color except yellow and blue.
CULTIVATION.
If a permanent rose-bed is desired, with the view of growing fine roses fit for
exhibition, it will be necessary to choose an open situation, but protected from
cold, cutting winds, and then ascertain what the sub-soil is. If of a wet, clayey
nature, it sliould be thoroughly drained after whicli the ground sliould be trench-
ed eighteen to twenty -four inches deep, mixing witli it during the i)rocess some
good, rotted manure and an occasional sprinkling of coarse ground bone. A bed
thus formed will last for years and will well repay the extra expense of making
it. But for persons of limited means, or those wiio have only a city garden and
who wish to grow a variety of plants in it, I would recommend that whenever a
rose-busli is to be planted, the ground be dug out one foot square and eighteen"
inches deep, then filled in w'ith some good, turfy loam, having some rotted manure
mixed through it.
PLANTING.
Some prefer to do this in the fall, but from my own experience, I prefer to plant
in the spring, as soon as the ground can possibly be worked, for when done in
the fall, the i)lants are apt to be thrown out of the ground by the action of the
frost, so that in many instances the work has to be done over again. In planting,
roses on their own roots are to be preferred, but these cannot always be obtain-
ed ; besides, there are some kinds that succeed better worked than on their own
roots. When worked i)lants are used, they should always be planted deep enough
for the stock to be completely buried in the ground two or more inches, for,
when this is the case, after a time the plant will throw out rootsabove the stock,
so that practically it is supported by its own roots as well as the additional roots
of the stock. The plants should be well trodden in, and as soon as they com-
mence to grow, spread over thelground a good]mulching of manure, which sliould
be forked in during the summer. In tiie fall, spread lightly among the plants a
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 33
coating of loose litter or leaves, or even plough or hoe up the earth to the stems ;
the latter I have seen most effectually done ; it preserves the lower branches and
eyes from the frost, and in the spring can be drawn from them, and the ground
forked over and mulched with manure as before.
PRUNING.
This should be done the second or third week in March or later, according to
the weather. I have known the first week in April to be early enough. In prun-
ing, first take out all the small or sickly-looking shoots, then prune the remain-
der from six to eighteen inches, according to their growth. On examining the
roses in the spring, it will frequently be observed that many shoots have black
blotches or rings on the last year's growth. In all such cases, the shoots should
be cut away below such spots, even if in so doing you have to prune to the plant
itself. It is very difficult to give any fixed rules for pruning otherwise than ac-
cording to their growth, but as a general rule, _,moderate-growing sorts should be
pruned to about six inches, and strong-growing ones from twelve to eighteen
inches. Let me note here that the whole pitliof the subject of pruning and after-
growth depends on tlie careful observance of the habits of each individual
plant, also the object in view, as some prefer to keep their plants dwarf and
bushy, and to do this tliey will necessarily have to be kept well pruned in ; but
others, such as have small gardens and to such I more particularly address these
remarks — should not prune too closely, but rather aim to make fine, tall bushes^
as all village gardens are generally so surrounded by trees, fences, etc., that it is
only when the bushes get a considerable heiglit that they can obtain the neces-
sary light and air.
This has been brought prominently to my notice during the last two years by
observing the gardens of two of my neighbors, who have had some of the finest
hybrid and moss roses that one could desire. They were planted three years
since from two-inch pots, and this summer when in bloom were seven feet higli,
and covered w^ith a mass of flowers, a sight wortli going a distance to see. They
had been but slightly pruned each year, and liad grown so tall tiiat they were
above tlie surrounding fences, and thus were enabled to get plenty of light and
air, which no plant requires more tlum the rose.
It is estimated that since tlie appearance of the first hybrid perpetual roses,
over one thousand varieties have been introduced to commerce. In making a
selection from so numerous a list, we naturally wish the best, and the question
arises, what are the qualities most to be desired ? First, I would say a strong
constitution, producing fine, robust foliage, with flowers of good substance, fine
form, distinct colors, and, if possible, sweet-scented. Second, a disposition to
bloom freely in the fall. This latter quality can be greatly enhanced by good
cultivation.
I liave made a selection of over sixty varieties that have come under my per-
sonal observation, but as I am aware that roses, like strawberiies, succeed bet-
ter in some localities than others, I tlierefore placed myself in communication
with Messrs. EUwanger «& Barry, of Rochester; John B. Moore & Son, of Con-
cord, Mass., and the Dingee & Conard Company, of West Grove, Pa. I might
here mention that I had an opportunity of submitting my list to Mr. Wintzer,
who so ably represents the Dingee & Conard Company, and he fully indorsed all
my varieties as succeeding well with them ; therefore, for the sake of brevity, it
will be understood that my list embraces that section of the country also.
3
34
PKOCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION,
Selection of John Henderson, Flushing, L. I., and also of the
DiNGEE & CONARD CO., WEST GrOVE, PA.
Abel Carrieie.
*Abel Grand.
* Alfred Colomb.
Anna Alexieff.
*Anna de Diesbach.
*Antoine Mouton.
Baron de Bonstettin.
*Baroness Rothschild.
*Baronne Prevost.
*Beauty of Waltham.
Boieldieu.
*Boule de Neige.
Captain Cliristy.
*Ciiarles Lefebre.
Comtesse de Serenye.
*Coquette des Blanches.
Countess of Oxford.
Dr. Andry.
Duke of Albany.
Duke of Edinburgh.
Edward Morren.
*Elise Boelle.
Elie Morel.
*Elizabeth Vigneron,
E. Y. Teas.
*Fisher Holmes.
Francois Michelon.
*General Jacqueminot.
*General Wasliington.
Hippolyte Jamain.
*Jean Liabaud.
* Jules Margottin.
Jules Finger.
*La France.
Louis Van Houtte.
*Lyonnaise.
*Mabel Morrison.
Madame Cliarles Wood.
Madame de Cambaceres.
Madame Gabriel Luizet.
*Madame Victor Verdier.
*Mlle. Annie Wood.
*Mlle. Eugenie Verdier.
Magna Charta.
♦Marguerite de St. Amand.
Marie Bauraann.
Marquise de Castellane.
*Marquise de Moitemart.
Marshall P. Wilder.
Mary Bennett.
Maurice Bernardin.
*Merveille de Lyon.
Monsieur Boncenne.
*Paul Neron.
Paul V^i'dier.
*Pierre Netting.
Pride of Reigate.
*Prince Camille de Rohan.
*Pride of Waltham.
*Queen of Queens.
Senateur Vaisse.
Ulrich Brunner.
John Hopper.
Selection of Ellw anger & Barry, Rochester.
* Alfred Colomb.
*Anna de Diesbach.
Baroness Rothschild.
Baron de Bonstettin.
Boieldieu.
*Charles Lefebre.
*Climbing Jules Margottin.
Comtesse de Serenye.
Coquette des Alps.
Countess of Oxford.
Edward Morren.
*Elise Boelle.
*Eugenie Verdier.
*Fisher Holmes.
*Fran9ois Michelon.
*John Hopper.
*La France.
*La Reine.
Mabel Morrison.
Madame Gabriel Luizet.
*Marguerite de St. Amand.
*Marie Baumann.
*Marshal P. Wilder.
Maurice Bernardin.
Merveille de Lyon.
*Paul Neron.
*Pierre Netting.
Prince Camille de Rohan.
*Rev. J. B. Camm.
*Victor Verdier.
*General Jacqueminot.
• Those marked with a star bloom well in the Fall.
society of american flobists. 35
Selection of Taventy-five of the Best Varieties doing well tx
Boston, by John B. Moore & Son, Concord, Mass.
Abel Carriere, La Rosiere.
Alfred Colomb. Louis Van Houtte.
Baron de Bonstettin. Madame Eugenie Verdier.
Baroness liotlischild. Madame Gabriel Luizet.
Charles Lefebre. Madame Marie Finger.
Duke of Edinburgh. Madame Victor Verdier.
Duke of Teck. Marguerite de St. Amand.
Duke of Wellington. Marquise de Castellane.
Etienne Levet. Monsieur E. Y. Teas.
Eugenie Verdier. Merveille de Lyon.
Francois Miclielon. Thomas Mills.
Jean Liabaud. White Baroness.
Jolni Hopper.
In addition to the above, tliere is a growing class of roses called "Climbing
Hybrids." These are not strictly climbers in the same sense as the Ayrshires,
Boursoults, etc., but sliould rather be called "Pillar Roses." They are strong,
rampant sports from well-known liybrids, with flowers in every way identical
with those of their parents, and will grovv from ten to twelve feet high. This
class should be encouraged either for small or large gardens. In the former case,
from their height they could be more easily cleared of those pests of the rose, the
aphides, red spider, and caterpillars, by syringing witii any of the different solu-
tions for that purpose, as from their height the under part of the foliage can be
well sprayed, and it is on the under part of the foliage that the principal trouble
comes. Secondly, they can be made very effective in large gardens, either planted
singly or in groups of three or more varieties, or in rows, thus forming a beau-
tiful background for the dwarf-growing varieties. The following are well adapted
for this purpose, but the observant rose-grower will find many other rampant-
growing sorts that he can make use of for the same purpose :
Baronne Prevost. Glory of Waltham.
Bessie Johnson. General Jacqueminot.
Captain Christy. Eugenie Verdier.
Charles Lefebre. Jules Margottin.
Countess of Oxford. Madame de Cambaceres.
Duchess of Sutherland. Maurice Bernardin.
Duke of Edinburgh. Paul Verdier.
Edward Morren. Princess Louise Victoria.
Glory of Cheshunt. Red Dragon.
I might here mention that to insure getting these varieties it will be necessary
to ask for the climbing varieties of these sorts, as they are called in the catalogues.
Before closing this article, I would like to make a few remarks on rose-growing
in general. Tlie great lack of personal observation of the requirements of each
particular rose, in regard to its cultivation, pruning, etc. ; also want of attention
and quickness in detecting caterpillars, mildew, etc., is the cause of failure.
When the first leaf is discovered folded by a caterpillar, go for it, and then hunt
over the whole lot continuously from that time. So, also, when the first speck
of mildew is discovered, do not wait till to-morrow, but apply the remedy right
36 PROCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
away. Unsuccessful rose-growing is due to lack of attention to what at first is
a little matter. When the leaves are eaten away like lace-work, the bushes white
witli mildew, it is rather late to begin to apply remedies. Such persons will never
succeed in growing good roses.
Mr. James Hendrick, of Albany, New York : Mr. Chairman., ladies
and gentlemen : You doubtless, as well as myself, have been specially
entertained and instructed by our friend from Long Island, Mr. John
Henderson ; and if the men of " the hub " do not know how to grow
hybrid perpetual roses after so excellent a paper, they deserve to be
called ''men of the hub" no longer; and if you gentlemen from the
West and the East, and we poor fellows from the middle district, are
ignoramuses after hearing this paper, we deserve no longer to be rose-
growers or growers of anytliing else. Th paper, I think, deserves
the thanks of this association, and I feel great pleasure in moving
now that the thanks of the association be given to Mr. Henderson for
liis very able and instructive essay.
The motion of Mr. Hendrick was adopted by a unanimous vote.
. Mr. Hendrick : Now I would not make a bridge of my friend Wintzer 's
nose, and, while thanking one man, fail to thank another. Although
he has given us the names of roses that have l)loomed since Adam
was a boy until now, he has given evidence of having exercised great
care in the preparation of his essay, and deserves our cordial acknowl-
edgment of it. I move that the thanks of the association be given to
Mr. Wintzer for his j)aper.
The motion of Mr. Hendrick was adopted by a unanimous vote.
Mr. McCron, of Connecticut, moved that the thanks of the society
be tendered to Mr. Peter Henderson, of Jersey City, New Jersey, for
his article read at the morning session.
The motion of Mr. McCron was adopted by a unanimous vote.
The Chairman (Mr. J. ]\[. Jordan, of St. Louis, in the chair) : We
will now be favored with a i^aper by Mr. Robert Craig, of Philadel-
phia, upon the treatment of pot-grown roses, etc.
Vice President Craig here came forward, and, for some time, held
the attention of the convention upon the subject of " Pot-grown
Roses for Market Purposes — Their Care and Treatment." His essay
was received by the audience with many evidences of appreciation,
and was as follows :
POT ROSES FOR MARKET PURPOSES — THEIR CARE AND TREATMENT.
Roses in pots will always be of great importance to tlie market gardener, as
they are one of the main sources of his revenue, and it is well worth wliile to con-
sider which are the best varieties to grow, and what are the methods by which
they can be best developed at the minimum cost; not forgetting that first quality
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 37
is the prime consideration, and must always be kept in view. Nothing is easier
than to waste time and material in tlie production of plants, so that, althougli
tlie result is a good article, the cost has been too great. It is related of Horace
Greeley that when he was farming, he raised tlie best turnips that had ever been
grown in his section, but when lie estimated the value of the labor and materials
expended upon them, he found they had cost him exactly $1.12 apiece. He could
not sell them at a protit! The problem, from a commercial point of view, is to
produce good plants by tlie best and quickest methods.
Most of the varieties, especially the teas, hybrid teas and hybrids, can be
grown more profitably under glass in summer than when planted out-doors,
especially in tliis section of the country. As i»iarket gardeners usually have their
houses empty in summer, this use of them will not be costly, and when the diffi-
culties of out-door cultui'e are considered, tlie plan proposed is the better one. I
am aware that many good growers still plant in open ground most of the varie-
ties, but how frequently are they disappointed in the size of the plants in the
fall ! A few strong-growing kinds, such as Magna Cliarta, Jacqueminot, Hermosa,
Agrippina and Madame Plantier may, on new ground, in favorable seasons,
grow to a sufficient size, but this is not the case witli sucli valuable kinds as La
France, Madame Charles Wood, Baroness liotlisckiJd, and many otiiers ; but all
sorts worth growing at all, will, under glass, with suitable treatment, grow to a
large size.
1 am informed, on good autliority, that in some sections of the country (partic-
ularly in parts of the 8outli) roses can be grown to extremely large size in one
season. Of course the above remarks do not apply to such favored localities. It
certainly cannot now be done in the neigliborhood of Pliiladelpliia and New
York, and many other sections, as we ail know. Flatbusli, Long Island, and
Union Hill, New Jersey, where roses are extensively grown for market, are cases
in point. In both these places, ten or twelve years ago, roses would grow in one
season large enough for six-inch and seven-inch pots; now they do not attain
one fourth that size. Tiiis falling off is not caused by continual cropping on
same ground, for the failure is equally great when land that has laid in sod for a
number of years is used. Whether this bad state of affairs is wholly or partially
caused by the prevalence of '' black spot," I am not prepared to say, and would
like, if time permits, to hear an expression of opinion on the subject. Leaving
the cause of the trouble out of the question, I am satisfied the in-door treatment
will insure better and more uniform results.
A very important question to consider is, " What varieties should be grown V"
There are many grand roses whicli are not suitable for market. The requisite
qualities in a rose for the purpose are, good habit and freedom of bloom, with
good constitution and vigorous growth, so that it may not take too long to get a
good-sized plant. Tlie addition of fragx'ance is, of course, always desirable. I
will give further on a partial list of the varieties which have proved to be the
best, first detailing the methods of their culture as far as I have had experience and
opportunity to observe. It is not necessary to go into the details of propagating,
further than to say that the best way to get healthy plants is to take cuttings of
well-ripened wood (that grown under glass will usually root easiest) in Novem-
ber, or early in December. At this time the plant may be cut back and the
prunings saved for this purpose; if the largest flowers are desired, prune closely.
Put the cuttings in a cold house with slight bottom heat, maintained by three or
four feet of fresh tan under the sand bed. It will be found of advantage to have
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one or two hot-water or steam pipes running through the tan at a depth of two
feet to supply a little additional heat, which should be turned on as soon as the
callous is well formed. The main point is to keep the top of the cutting as cool
as possible witiiout freezing. By the first of March the cuttings should be well
rooted, and may be potted off and put into a cool house or frame. Shade for a few
days, and give air and water as required, until the houses are emptied by spring
sales, when tlie youns i)lants will be in a condition to shift into four or five-inch
])ots, or to be planted out on benches, which should be done, if possible, not later
than June 15. In preparing the soil, use five parts fibrous loam, one part well-
rotted cow or horse manure, one part pure ground bone, and if the soil be lieavy,
one partsliarp sand or rotten micaceous rock.
Where the soil is of a heavy, clayey nature (which is usually good for roses)
the addition of finely ground oyster shells (carbonate of lime) in the proportion
of one i)art to twenty-five of the whole mass will be found useful ; not so much
from the food it contanis as in keeping the soil sweet. Any of the steam marble-
dust mills will grind tiie shells at a cost not exceeding five dollars a ton. Burnt
eartii is also valuable, and may be used in the proportion of one quarter of the
whole. If the plants are potted, they should be plunged iialf way to the rim in
old refuse hops or other light material, taking care not to over-water. Unless
great care is taken in watering, it is better to dispense with the plunging.
Syringing and watering should be regularly attended to, and the plants kept
staked up. By October 1, they should be from one to four feet high, according
to variety. Those in pots may then be put outside to make room for a crop of
chrysanthemums or other fall plants, and should, after being ripened by the frost
and air, be plunged in frames or put into cold houses until it is time to force
them into bloom. While in a dormant state, little water is required. Tliose
grown on benches should be potted the middle of October and treated likewise.
In planting out, it may be well to put some of the sorts, such as La France^
Pierre GuilloU and JMalmaison, in a house by themselves and keep them growing
without intermission until after the holidays. When cold weather sets in, tliey
will, of course, require fire heat. The temperature should be kept at from fifty-
five to sixty degrees at night. The blooms obtained will pay for the expense of
growing. The plants may be potted late in December or early in January, and
after being kept a week or two in same temperature to somewhat establish them
in pots, may be put away in a very cold house or plunged in frame (taking care
that severe frost does not injure the roots) until spring. Witl) this treatment,
they will make fine plants for late spring sales. If fine specimens are desired, do
not place tlie pots close togetlier, but allow a space of at least one inch, so that
the ait may liave access, causing the plants to swell their low^er buds, and become
furnislied with foliage from the rim of the pot upwards. If crowded, they will
break only towards the top, the lower branches remaining bare.
When brouglit into the house, they will require more room as growtii advances.
Those grown out-doors should be lifted and potted, in this latitude, from first to
middle of November, or as soon as slight frost has checked the growth. In lift-
ing, great care should be taken to keep the roots from getting dry, and the plants
should, when potted, be shaded for a week or two to keep the wood fresh and
plump. Tlie first crop for selling is usually not wanted before Easter, and should
be brought in from cold frame seven to nine wrecks previous to that time. After
bringing in, the temperature should, for the first three weeks, not exceed forty
degrees at night, and may be gradually increased to fifty-five degrees. Other
SOCIETY OF AMEEICAN FLORISTS. 39
lots may be broiigbt in at intervals to keep up a succession. A critical period
occurs when firing for the season is discontinued. Mildew is then to be guarded
against. Many houses are ruined by it at this time. An effectual remedy is
made by l)oiling five pounds tobacco stems and ten pounds flowers of sulphur in
thirty gallons water, until it is reduced to ten gallons. Apply this mixture with
syringe in the proportion of one pint to two gallons water. Use of it as a pre-
ventive should be commenced before firing is stopped. While firing, the occa-
sional sprinkling of the heating pipes with sulphur, and caution against exposure
to cold drafts, will be sufficient. Syringe with diluted fir-tree oil (or, better still,
dipping tlie plants) is an effectual remedy for red spider; if, however, syringing
with water be regularly attended to, there is not much danger from this pest. An
occasional watering with weak guano or manure water after the plants have set
buds will improve the blooms. Before taking the plants to market, it is well to
tie the blooms in tissue paper to prevent injury from jolting on the journey. If
the buds (particularly of the teas) are tied in stiff paper, leaving one end open
when they first show color, they will attain greater size.
Among the very best hybrids to grow are Gen. Jacqueminot, Magna Charta,
Paul Neron, Merveille de Lyon, Baroness de Botliscliild, John Hopper, Anna de
Dieshach, Madame Masson, Queen of Queens, Pceonia, and Duchesse de Morny ;
tlie latter two varieties do not produce particularly fine flowers, but they are of
such good habit and freedom of bloom as to merit growing in large quantities.
Of the hybrid teas none are superior to La France, Pierre Guillott, Lady Mary
Fitzwilliam, Autoine Verdier, and Countess of Pembroke. In the teas, none are
better than Perle des Jardins, Madame Welch, Marie Van Ilontte, Etoile de
Lyon, Madame de Vatry, Madame Cusin, Coquette de Lyon, and Marie Guillott
The latter variety is one of the most profitable ; its flowers are pure white and of
good substance ; it pays to grow it for flowers in summer alone, and it is the best
white tea for pots in spring; it requires a stony, clayey soil. Coquette de Lyon
also deserves special mention. It lias been called the " Yellow Ilerraosa," and
the name is appropriate, for it flowers as constantly and abundantly as that well-
known sort. In tlie Bourbon and Chinese classes, we may grow Hermosa,
Agrippina, Archduke Charles, Sour, de la Malmaison, Bourbon Queen and Queen
of Bidders; and in tlie climbers, Tennessee Belle, Gem of the Prairies, Baltimore
Belle, Peine Marie Henriette, Glorie de Dijon, and Marechal Neil. With the ex-
ception of the three last named, they should be planted out-doors in summer.
Very strong plants make a fine appearance when trained on trellises in oval
form.
The Polyantha roses are dainty little beauties and well worth growing. The
best are Mignonette, Madame Cecil Brunner, Little Pet, and Perle d''Or. A few
of the moss roses are desirable. The best for pot-culture are Countess de Muri.
nais. Glory of 3Iosses, Crestuta, Princess Adelaide, and Henry Martin. The
latter, although not producing first-class flowers, blooms so easily and freely as
to well merit a place on the list. If grown under glass in pots, they will bloom
well the first spring, which is not the case (excepting Henry Martin) if they have
been planted out-doors. Under the latter treatment, they are likely to produce
only blind shoots. Coquette des Alps (hybrid noisette) is not only first-class in
pots, but will give satisfaction as a vigorous grower and bloomer when planted
out. It is surprising that it is not more largely grown. Coquette des Blanches is
also distinct and good. American Beauty promises to be very valuable, but has
not yet been sufliciently tested as a market pot-rose. Of one thing I am thor-
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oughly convinced, and that is that tlie operator confining himself to eight or ten
varieties in the hybrids and to twelve or fifteen in tiie teas will realize more
money than one endeavoring to grow a great number of kinds.
In growing cut flowers for winter bloom, the growers have been compelled to
drop all but less tlian a dozen in each class, and those of us who grow for market
in pots will be wise if we take the hint and reduce our lists accordingly ; re-
member, I speak of roses for market purposes. I can readily understand how
those who publisli catalogues and minister to the wants of educated amateurs,
can afford to grow more kinds, for their patrons are more or less familiar with
future results. Such stock may be sold as very small plants or even in an en-
tirely dormant state and still give satisfaction, but the successful market plant
must be a '' thing of beauty " on the day it is taken to be sold.
The Chairman (J. M. Jordan): The paper that you have just
heard is now your iDroperty, and it is quite fitting that some discus-
sion be had upon the subject. There are many here who know some-
thing of it, and I hope that what is said will be to the point.
Mr. James Hendrick, of Albany, N, Y. : I ought to feel grateful
that, when called into existence, I was destined to stand as a living
monument of thanks, and when I look at my present surroundings
and into the cheery faces about me, I thank God that I am just that
monument ! I think it w^as Emerson who said if you want to succeed,
you must hook on your wagon to a star and work up to your ideal.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, you have before you a paper from a suc-
cessful man. I want to take Emerson's advice and work up to the
ideal. The paper w^hich has been presented in your hearing and mine
is one upon which mucli thought has been expended.
Who has not read of and admired the crags of the North of Scot-
land? Those bold outlines have been transferred to a more genial
clime: the "Crag" of the North has been transformed into the
"Craig" of the South, and, in the genial atmosphere of Philadelphia,
this descendant of a Scotchman, unlike the " canny " Scot who locked
up everything within himself, opens his heart to you and tells you all
that there is in on this subject. I think that because he has done so
— and he has withheld nothing; he is honest; every sentence that he
has enunciated demonstrates his sincerity, his honesty, and his truth-
fulness. The first thing you ought to do is to accept his paper and
thank him for it.
The motion of Mr. Hendrick was adopted by a unanimous vote.
Mr. Craiu : I think that this " black spot," which is interfering so
seriously with the growth of roses all over the Northern States, is en-
titled, perhaps, to a little of our time ; and, if there is a disposition to
discuss the question, w^e would be pleased to hear from any of the
gentlemen who have made observations concerning it.
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLOEISTS. 41
Mr. Peter Henderson, of Jersey City, N. J. : In view of the tho-
roughness with which the subject has been treated by the essayist,
Mr. Craig, so little has been left to be said and the ground has been
so full}" covered that I really do not know how anything can be added
that would be of much benefit to American florists.
I will just remark that, some twenty years ago, the jjlants from which
we propagated were entirely diff"erent from those that are now general-
ly used in propagation. Then, as Mr. Craig has stated, we used plants
that were taken from the open ground, outside. Those plants Avere
lifted, potted, put in cold frames and kept there usually until March.
Then, after starting, we took the cuttings from these in the usual way,
propagated them in the regular course and planted them out again.
Now, the great majority of roses are propagated from plants that have
had no rest. I remember when I first deviated from our old plan of
proiDagating i^lants from those that had been rested in the winter. On
one occasion I planted out about four thousand plants of Safrano.
About half of them had been propagated from plants that had been
forced in winter, and the other half were those of which the cuttings
had been taken from plants that had been kept in frames in the usual
manner. In the fall the plants that had been propagated from the
forced plants were but very little larger than tliey were when set out
in the spring, while the cuttings that had been taken from plants kept
in cold frames, (and which were set out at the same time that the
others were,) had attained a height of from eighteen to twenty
inches ; thus demonstrating that the former had shown the effects of
exhaustion in consequence of their having been forced. I think that,
in all probability, this trouble of black spot is attributable to this
cause. Whenever you outrage nature, it is m}^ opinion, nature will
hit back. AVe have been forcing carnations for i)robably twenty-five
years without giving them any rest whatever. We put in, to force,
in the fall, at a temperature of probably sixty degrees, and con-
tinue this through the winter; taldng the cuttings from them while
thus forced ; planting them from the green-houses on the open
ground, to run the round of our tropical summers ; then to be again
lifted and to go through the same course of treatment ; thus denying
them the rest that their nature demands. As a consequence, we have
disease. Of late vears, we have the same results in violets — the black
spot and disease. AVhy is this ? It is because we have been going
through almost the same course, propagating them under artificial
heat, until their system has become exhausted, and, being given no
rest, thej" rebel against this unnatural treatment.
All who have had experience in forcing vegetables will agree with
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me in this. I can take the strongest plant — rhuliarb or asparagus —
force it so that it will mature in mid-winter, and in that case the plant
will be rendered almost worthless. So it is with our hyacinths, tulips,
lilies of the valley and other bulbs, together with many other hardy
plants. When grown and forced under artificial treatment, thej^ are
injured less or more according to their nature. Put them through an
unnatural course for one season by giving them no rest, and they re-
sent the ill-treatment. I believe that this has probably more than
anything else to do with black spot and all kindred diseases that seem
to be caused by lessened vitality.
Mr. James Hendrick, of Albany, N. Y. : I was going to observe,
Mr. Ciiairman, that, in that good Old Book, we read that in the long
past there was a race they called Anakims — "' there were giants in
those days '' — and in more recent times we read of a race of pigmies
called the Aztecs. The cause of the human stature descending from
the giant to the pigmy is doubtless known to you as well as it is to
me. Pray what occasioned the difference in size between those two
classes of men ? The one is a little fellow not three feet high ; the
other is seven feet six. The remarks made by my good friend Hen-
derson. I think, cover a great deal. He says you cannot get a strong
plant from a weak constitution. If j^ou force the rose, it is only a
question of time when it will force you. My impression is just this:
that you cannot raise strong plants from unhealthy parents ; nor can
you obtain healthy stock from parents of antagonistic races. From
improper associations, our race is degenerating, and we have l)een
troubled with nervous and liver diseases, in the last twenty-five years,
to a greater extent than ever before. It would be well, therefore, to
consider that the true way of avoiding diseases, in human races as well
as diseases in vegetation, is by selecting pure and healthy stock.
Mr. Hexry a. Siebrecht, of New Rochelle, N. Y. : The worthy
gentleman from Albany (Mr. Hendrick) has expressed my views in
part. I wish to say upon that subject that, in subjecting stock plants
to too severe a pressure, in forcing them and propagating our stock
from them. I think we try to take too much and give back too little ;
that the practice of rushing things, of trying to get along very rapidly,
will certainly, sooner or later, leave us in the lurch. We cannot take
everything while giving nothing in return. Therefore, I would advise
and suggest that those of ns who grow roses as specialties go back to
the old method with, at least, a portion of our stock. By that means,
we will secure a good healthy growth in some of our roses and will
get new blood, as it were, for propagating purposes.
Twelve months ago I made the suggestion which I am now stating
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 43
with a view to renovating violets of disease. I promised myself to
take a number of Marie Louise violets, i^lant them out of doors in
a somewhat slieltered spot, protect them from severe frost, and use
them as stock plants for propagation — in this way producing once
more the violet as we have had it in all its luxuriance. If we try a
little experimenting of tliis kind, we will be richly repaid for it.
The Chairman (Mr. Craig) : A delegate desires to hear from Mr.
Charles Anderson on this subject. The gentleman named is certainly
well qualified to speak upon it, and no better selection for the purijose
could be made.
Mr. Charles Anderson, of Flushing, N. Y., (who was cordially re-
ceived,) said: I do not know that I can add anything to what has
already been said, except to take a little exception to a few remarks
that some of our delegates have made in connection with this disease.
I regard this disease among roses as being purely of fungoid origin ;
and this fungus I regard as being generated by atmospheric conditions.
Where the roses are all out of doors, a weak rose will of course be
affected sooner than a strong rose, yet if there are no weak ones to be
afi'ected, the disease will attack the strong ones. A neighbor of mine
who has never propagated his roses except upon the old metliod never
had such a thing as black rust or black mildew, but, in the past two
or three years, lie has had black spot. His roses have never been
forced. Not only is that the fact, but it is also true that he grows
none but the very strongest of the older varieties. I cite the fact as
one which seems to sustain the theory that the fungus is specially gen-
erated by certain atmospheric conditions. Witli respect to roses
under glass, we know that we can control black sjDot to a certain ex-
tent by a dry atmosphere, and by a little increased temperature at
times, or by a change of it. We also know tliat sulphur is a very poor
protection from destruction by the black mildew. It has not the same
virtue that it has in the ordinary white mildew to which we are all
accustomed.
I consider the subject one deserving of our patient consideration,
as the disease, if permitted to go unchecked, threatens to undermine
the constitutions, not only of the out-door roses, but of the in-door roses
as well, so that eventually we may be unable to grow a rose of the
same strength and vigor possessed by those groAvn in years gone by.
It is not unusual in some localities to see thousands of roses which
have been planted out of doors decimated of their foliage from top to
bottom. I am not prepared to speak of it as a scientific man or a
microscopist, but I may say that, in my opinion, fungus of the same char-
acter is attacking many other of our products as well as roses. I have
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noticed on maple trees a spot very similar in appearance to that
which comes on roses. It has also appeared on difterent kinds of
grass and on clover in the fields. You can all observe it. Wherever
it is very prevalent, the vegetation has a very sickly look. While we
may not be able to apply a remedy out of doors, I think it is quite
possible to control atmospheric conditions within our green-houses,
and that we can, to a large extent, eliminate this rust from our roses
in-ddors. This, however, can only be done by careful watching. It
would appear that the best measure to counteract its ravages is to
carefully pick otF all the leaves that are affected the moment that its
presence in any green-house is detected. When it first makes its ap-
pearance, it is a minute spot, one not bigger than the point of a pin,
and it gradually spreads. If at that time the green-liouse is subjected
to a drier atmosphere for a few days and a little manure is applied,
the plants will probably recover and break into a strong, healthy
growth.
Concerning what has been said upon another phase of the subject,
I wish to repudiate the idea of any of our roses being weakened by
forcing. I consider that the condition of almost all our tea roses
when under glass is very nearly tlieir natural condition. We do not
force them under an excessive heat. They are kept at very nearly
their natural temperature, and they get all the sunlight that they could
possibly get in their native climes.
Mr. J. D. Carmody, of Evansville, Ind. : I shall not attempt to give
any instruction on this point, but will merely state a circumstance
that occurred in my experience in relation to the black spot in roses.
Last winter I made some cuttings of the Perle rose from good healthy
stock and removed them to my propagating house, which is several
degrees cooler than my blooming house. In a very short time, every
cutting had black spot, and I did not save, I suppose, one tenth of the
whole. The plants from which the cuttings were taken remained
healthy all the time. You can draw whatever conclusion you like from
that.
Mr. Peter Henderson: Allow me to make one additional remark.
It is in regard to a case — a very remarkable one, I think, — which
would go to prove that black rust or black spot is a consequence of
lessened vitality. I agree entirely with Mr. Anderson in what he has
said about the influence of atmospheric conditions, but I also believe
that all mildew developments, as a rule, are a consequence of some
shock to the system of tlie plant. Nearly twenty-five years ago I had
an instance illustrating this, and it was one which I will never forget.
AVe had an old lean-to green-house, where the sashes were let down
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 45
in the old fashioned way so as to secure ventilation. One evening,
the sashes were neglected and the windows allowed to remain open.
Next morning the x>lants, which were roses just coming into bloom,
were frozen right under the place where the sashes were let down.
They were frozen sufficiently hard to blacken the buds, although not
enough, seemingly, to injure the foliage. After the lapse of sixty
hours from the time when they had been thus frozen, the space under
the sashes, measuring about three by four, was covered with mildew and
the lines defining this space were clearly visible, while in no other part
of the house was there a vestige of mildew. Why was this ? It was be-
cause the vitality of the plants had been lessened by the shock they had
received, and the presumption is a fair one that the germs of the mil-
dew, floating in the atmosphere, had found suitable soil for their ger-
mination.
I have another case in ijoint, and my statement in regard to that
can be verified l)y gentlemen here present who recently visited my
place. We had some six or seven hundred of American Beauty roses.
One half of these are now in perfect health, and I do not tliink you can
find scarcely a black spot among the whole of them. They are grow-
ing in ten-inch pots, and are about two feet high. This lot was from
plants that had been grafted on Manettl stock in the first week of
March, the stock having been taken from cold frames at that date.
After grafting, they were shifted and forwarded in the usual way.
They were placed in the open air about the first day of June last, with
another lot of Ainerican Beauty with which tliey were almost iden-
tical in size and apparent vigor, but which, however, had been grown
in the green-houses during the winter, without rest. At this time,
two months after being thus exposed in the open air, the grafted lot
(which had the winter's rest) are in perfect health, while the others
are becoming affected to a considerable extent with black spot. This
experiment is one of the most satisfactory I have ever tried, and, in
my judgment, it shows as clearly as anything can show that it is the
continued unrest to which we subject the plants which causes lessen-
ed vitality and consequent disease.
The Chairman (Mr. Craig) : Will IMr. Henderson permit a ques-
tion before leaving the floor? His theory, as I understand it, is that
continued forcing has so undermined their constitutions that the roses
have for that reason become more liable to this disease which we call
black spot?
Mr. Henderson : Yes, thej^ have thus become liable to that and
other diseases. That is only one of the diseases which may afllict
them.
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The Chairman : I believe that the assumption upon which that
theory is predicated is the truth, but I do not think that the gentle-
man's statement covers the whole of the subject. It has occurred in
our experience, in importing from Europe roses that had been grown
on the "rest" principle, that had been rested all winter, that, after
bringing them over, and planting them out, they soon became iilled
with black spot. I do not attempt to controvert the theory that con-
tinued forcing will so enfeeble the plant as to make it subject not
only to black spot but to all other diseases, but I think that black
spot will attack the healthiest plants as well as the unhealthy.
What does the gentleman (Mr. Henderson) think of cases of this kind?
Mr. Henderson : I have only to answer by citing the fact which
was demonstrated in the case to which I have just called attention,
viz : that where the plants were given rest, where we have a stronger
growth, there has been no black spot ; while, in the other case, where
we have a weakened growth consequent upon the want of rest, we do
have the disease. I can only account for the case which Mr. Craig
has stated by supposing that in some way the roots have been hurt by
over or under-watering, — either might do it, — as we well know that
these extremes bring black spot, rust, burning or whatever the differ-
ent phases of such disease may be called upon many other plants be-
sides the rose.
Mr. E. G. Hill, of Indiana : I think we are arguing from wrong
premises. Take Victor Verdier and roses of that type, and you find
that they are subject to black spot. The first instance in which black
spot came under my notice was one in which it was developed in Vic-
tor Verdier roses imported from France. If you take any one of the
type of the Victor Verdier^ you find that it is the first to be affected
by black spot. There is no doubt that the American Beauty has
Victor Verdier blood in its veins. It has been placed out of doors in
a healthy condition, and before three weeks have elapsed, the black
spot has been seen upon it. Only two years ago we had roses of the
Victor Verdie?' type from over the water with tea blood in them, and
found them the first to develop this particular kind of fungoid disease.
The Victor Verdier is a result of the cross between a hybrid per-
petual and the tea rose Safrano, and was raised by Lacharme of Ly-
ons, France. Here you have a union of the tender tea variety and
the hardy hybrid rose. I repeat that roses of that kind, with tea blood
in them, are more subject to black spot than others. I believe that
in the rose, as in the human family, peculiarities of disease are trans-
mitted in the constitution, and the question that I have evolved in
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my mind is, whether the trouble here has not come from that union
or from the results of crossing those varieties.
Mr. Antoine Wintzer, of West Grove, Pa. : Referring to my per-
sonal experience, I have to say that our first bad case of black spot
was in a lot of imj)orted roses from one of the old English growers.
They were as fine and healthy-looking plants as any in our establish-
ment, and during the months of July and August were growing vig-
orously. Suddenly they became affected with black siDot. I knew
how to handle mildew, red sf)ider, and all the old pests, but this was
something new. I studied the subject, and reasoned that, unless
checked, the disease would not leave us a healthy rose in the country
in the course of ten years. My observations convince me that the
fungoid spot on the leaf results from a disease of the circulation, and
that the disease may be produced by climatic influences, abuse in the
treatment of the plants, or other unfavorable conditions. I have no-
ticed that, when in the most vigorous condition, plants would be sud-
denly attacked by this disease. I do not coincide in the view ex-
pressed by the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Hill) that the disease is
confined exclusively to the Victor Verdier class, although I admit the
Victor VercUer class and its family, with the exception of Bennett's
hybrid teas, are the most liable to it. About eighteen years ago, I
grew the Victor Verdier in open ground. It did not have the disease
at that time. In fact, with us, the disease is of recent origin.
The only remedy I have found is to procure good healthy stock
plants for proi)agating purposes, — plants that are grown in open
ground under favorable climatic conditions. But I do not say that
because a plant has not black spot at present it will therefore never
get it. A man may not have consumption in his system, but he may
contract it from self-abuse or from any one of many other causes that
produce the disease ; and black spot is almost as fatal among plants
as is consumption in the human race. Through the Southern States
roses may be seen that form their leaves in March and will retain
them until late in autumn, which is something very unusual in our
latitude.
The quality of the rose is in the stamina. If you produce your cut-
tings from good, well-conditioned plants, the progeny will have a good
send-off and will be able to endure our changeable climate. Propa-
gating from plants that have been grown under glass for a number of
years has a tendency to impair the vitality of the future stock. In
this climate roses must be grown under glass to produce good flowers ;
but the young stock should not be produced, year after year, from
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such plants. Rose cuttings from plants grown in the open ground
have more vitality.
Mr. WiNTZER went to say that sulphur fumigation and other reme-
dies that would cure other diseases had no effect whatever on black
spot ; that it was as great a mistake to assume that the disease was
caused by starvation as it would be to suppose that a man was in good
health because he weighed tw^o hundred pounds, when his weight was
due to the fact that he was " all the time full of beer." He reiterated
that it was an error to attempt to grow roses by the over-heating pro-
cess. He contended that the reason why there was so much disease
among the American Beauty roses last year was that everybody was
harassing them, and that stock could not be procured from plants
grown in open ground.
Mr. Hexry a. Siebrecht here interposed to say that he thought the
view expressed by the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Hill) concerning
the origin of the disease was more nearly correct than any other
which had found expression. That view was that in producing new
roses such as American Beauty^ La France^ and other hybrid tea
roses, two roses of differently constituted natures were used, viz : the
hardy hybrid perpetual rose and the tea rose — the one being a soft
rose that would grow throughout all the year, if required, and the
other a rose that needed rest. Consequently, the product of this
union would be a rose of two distinct and opposite natures. He (Sie-
brecht) coincided in the view that the disease was traceable to this
cross-hvbridization. He further stated that, in a conversation with
Mr. Henderson, several months ago, the subject was talked over, and
both Mr. H. and he came to the conclusion that the hybrid blood in
the American Beauty and other roses wanted rest at a certain time,
while the tea blood in that rose rebelled and wanted to push and
grow.
About a half dozen years ago, Mr. Henry Bennett, of Stapleton,
now of Sheppardton, introduced his pedigree " hybrid tea" roses into
commerce. We expected wonderful results from them. One of the
progeny was Duke of Connaught. Where is the Duke of Connaught
to-day ? What has he accomplished with it as an out-door rose ? Of the
ten roses introduced by him in that year very few have been satisfac-
tory as out door roses. All of that class of roses, grown under out-
door culture, have been more subject to black spot than A?nerican
Beauty or any other rose of which I know anything. I can show you
to-day an American Beauty rose propagated from original stock that
had black spot and which w^as absolutely cured of the disease. The
disease is not one that is confined to any particular rose. Some of our
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 49
best roses are liable to get it, among others the Manetti, imported
from Europe. Last summer, when we had about five thousand Ma-
netti, we were visited by a north-east storm, with a drop of twenty-
five degrees in temperature, and in less than twenty-four hours black
spot appeared in large quantities among the lot.
Mr. Charles Anderson, of N. Y., here interposed and remarked
that he had Manetti stock, which had been imported and had been
planted out, and that that stock was afflicted with black spot. He
suggested an inquiry as to the cause in that case.
A delegate here inquired whether any grower had subjected a case
of black sj)ot to the microscope with a view to ascertaining the nature
of the disease. (No response was made.)
Mr. WiNTZER (continuing) explained that the cause inquired about
by Mr. Anderson was probably due to climatic influences. He went
on to say that the Manetti stock, which was one of the hardiest and
most vigorous, was as liable to be aff'ected by the disease as any other
variety. In point of fact, it had been aifected for the last two or three
years. So far as he knew, none of the roses aifected had been produced
in any other way than by the old-fashioned system of hard-wood cut-
tings in open ground.
A delegate here moved that, in the discussion of subjects before the
convention, a five-minute rule be enforced.
The motion was adopted without objection.
Mr. WiNTZER, being given permission, continued : A sudden check
to a plant of any of the varieties, no matter how healthy, would, in
his judgment, produce black spot. He held that the rule in this re-
spect w^as the same in plants as in human beings, and that a healthy
man who, under certain conditions was exposed to a draught of air,
would contract pneumonia as quickly as one in delicate health. (Ap-
plause.)
Mr. ScHULTHEis, of Long Island, N. Y., being awarded the floor,
stated that in his view, the forcing of roses impaired their vitality.
He added : '' Now if you use rain water, you will never be troubled
with black spot. That is all that I have to say."
Mr. John Thorpe (humorously): I am afraid that Mr. Schultlieis is
"ofl"" with regard to soft water. I use nothing but soft water and I
have tlie finest crop of black spot on my hands that you would care
to see!
The Chairman : I am compelled to announce that the last five
minutes for discussion have expired, and also the time which we are
at liberty to devote to this subject. I am pleased, however, to be able
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to announce that, before we adjourn, we are to be favored with a few
words from a gentleman known to many of you, one eminent in our
profession, a thoughtful man, one who is known, not only throughout
this country, but is recognized on the other side of the Atlantic as a
high authority on all subjects connected with our business. I have
the honor and the very great pleasure of presenting to you Mr.
Thomas Meehan, of Philadelphia.
Mr. Thomas Meehan, (editor of the Gardener's Monthly^) of Phila-
delphia, rising in his place on the platform and being cordially greet-
ed with applause, said :
Mr. Chairman : I feel very grateful to you for the kind words you
have spoken of me, and to my friends in the audience who have re-
sponded so cordially to your remarks concerning me. I wish I could
feel that it was in my power to make a return which would be some-
what commensurate with the kindness and good feeling with which
you have welcomed me. If I were in some other place than Phila-
delphia, I might perhaps feel disposed to try at once to fill the measure
of my gratefulness ; but, remembering that I am in the Quaker City
and that Quaker ideas have pervaded the whole community, I feel
that it is my duty to speak only '' when the spirit moves me." For-
tunately, the spirit has moved many of our friends, who have come
to pay us a visit, and the result has been seen in the excellent ad-
dresses which have been heard this afternoon. But, as I am an out-
sider in a measure, only a listener, and with nothing of my own to
communicate, I may, perhaps, be permitted to comment on what
others have said. I have been led to think, by what has been said,
how much I would like to be present at some pomological convention
this evening, where the experience that I have gathered to-day, con-
cerning the wearing out of varieties, might come into good use. That
theory, or speculation rather, originated with Thomas Andrew Knight,
of England, who, observing that certain pear trees fail, conceived the
idea that plants had only a specified time to live, — a pear tree proba-
bly five hundred years, — and that, at the end of that time, even the cut-
tings taken from that tree necessarily became diseased and died be-
cause the limit of that period had been reached that the cuttings would
live only as long as the parent stem lived ; consequently, when the
natural length of life for an individual tree had been reached, it
would die and the younger plants from it would, necessarily, die also.
But the facts that we have gathered here this afternoon would, I
think, have a very strong bearing as against that theory, because one
individual rose will not live for fifty or sixty years, and yet we have in
existence to-day varieties which were well known fifty years ago, and
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 51
were not new then, and which, notwithstanding the many difficulties
surrounding their culture, because of disease and bad conditions, are
still the most popular of our modern varieties. This is a strong point
against the original doctrine of the wearing out of varieties.
Although individual varieties will not, necessarily, wear out, I am
sorry to note, in gazing at the sea of faces before me, that individuals
of the human family do wear out, for of those whom I knew in the
business twenty-five years ago, there are few now living. But while
the individual members of the Society wear out, neither the art which
they are fostering, nor the love for flowers which they have inherited
from, and will transmit to others, will ever wear out.
I was a rosarian in comparatively youthful years. At my tenth
year I commenced to study roses, and when between ten and fifteen
years of age, I knew every variety of rose that was in existence at
that time. It is because of that fact that I make the statement, based
upon the speeches which I have heard this afternoon, that the roses
which were fashionable at that time are still popular to-day. In listen-
ing to the lists read by Messrs, Henderson and Wintzer, I was inter-
ested in noting how many roses had lost their original names in his-
tory, and were now being introduced under new names. For instance,
what we knew as Gonhault is now Bon Silene^ and roses which, like
Niphetos^ were of no account in former days are popular now, because,
although varieties do not run out, old thoughts do run out. We are
compelled to find new thoughts and new wants, and the old flowers
very often provide for those new thouglits and new wants to a larger
extent than do some of the newer varieties. Therefore, it is alwa3''s nec-
essary to look for new varieties by either cross-fertilization or other
scientific methods, for, after having gotten once the new variety or the
new idea, we can frequently find among the older varieties the neces-
sary material for filling new thoughts and wants, and such material
can generally be used to much better advantage than even the new
kind. Only a few days ago I was told of a rose which is now being
introduced in Europe. It is a German variety — recently the Ger-
mans have been competing with the French in introducing new varie-
ties, though this distinction is one that has been supposed to be a
special perquisite of the French people. I supposed we had some-
thing entirely new, and was informed that its peculiar name, in Ger-
man, was Namelose Schoene^ signifying " The Nameless Beauty."
Struck by its name, I was induced to inquire into its history, when I
found that that also was an old rose! It was an old rose, the name of
which had been lost. It had been certainly under culture for over
twenty years, and without having any recognized merits ; but the new
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thoughts and the new wants to which I before had reference led to
the discovery in that old rose of just the merits which the new
thoughts and the new ideas required, and thus it became of value.
It was ver}^ nearly allied to JVip/iefos, but it was found to be a regular
bloomer, continuing in bloom for six weeks ; furnishing nearly as
many flowers at the end of that period as it did at the first part of its
blooming ; and, moreover, was so floriferous that even small plants in
the cutting pots would bear flowers. This quality, with others, there-
fore, in this age when we are cultivating roses and flowers especially
for profit, gave it a value which it would not have possessed in former
times wlien flower buds were not so much in demand as at present.
I have only to add that, whether new varieties wear out or not, old
love of flowers will never die ; and although, in looking over the faces
here, I am impressed with the fact that the florists whom I knew forty-
eiglit 3'ears ago are passing awaj'^ and new ones are coming up, I can
see that the old love is not dead. I hope that the influence of your
meeting will stimulate that love which is destined to continue long
after the oldest of us have passed away. (Long-continued enthu-
siasm.)
The Chairman here announced the hour of adjournment, and made
several additional announcements for general information. Briefly
stated, tliese were as follows : An invitation to delegates who had not
recorded their names to visit the registrj^ book in one of the outer
rooms ; an invitation from the officials of the United States mint, with
a statement of the hours for visiting that institution ; and notifications
from Mr. Sturtevant, of New Jersey, that the flower of Victoria Beffia,
in the exhibition hall, could be inspected during the hours of the ses-
sions; and from the local committee of the Florists' Club, apprising
the excursionists to Atlantic City of the time at which the last boat
would leave on the following morning.
Mr. W. K. Harris, by way of testing the sentiment of the conven-
tion on the point, moved that the excursion fixed for to-morrow be
made, " rain or shine."
The motion was carried without objection.
Adjourned.
FIRST DAY— Evening.
The Chairman (Vice-President Craig in the chair) announced as
the regular order of business, per programme, a paper on " Fungoid
Diseases of the Rose," by Mr. H. J. Sackersdorff, of Bayside, N. J.
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He added that the President (Mr. Thorpe) desired tq^ maK^^stat^:^^t
in regard to the paper. \ ^^ ' & . \ •.
Mr. John Thorpe, (the President:) As the menibe^e of JthecduvenrX
tion have doubtless olDserved by the programme, Mr. Sa^efsiJorfE, the • )
essayist on this topic, has been removed by death. Prior '^ his si(*k- /
ness, he preptared some notes on this important paper, and I ha^'^4h£>8e' -
notes now in my possession, but they are in such a condition of con-
fusion that we have not yet been able to disentangle them. I suggest
that the society place these notes in the hands of a committee, with
instruction to them to get at the pith of tlie matter and prepare the
same for insertion in the printed report of our proceedings. If this
meets with favor, a motion to carry the suggestion into eftect would
now be in order.
On motion, it was here ordered by the society that the paper pre-
pared by the late H. J. Sackersdorif be completed, and that it be
published in the report of the proceedings of this annual meeting.
(Note. — Up to the time of going to press with these proceedings,
the above-named committee had not reported, wherefore the essay
cannot be inserted.)
The Chairman : The next topic treated of on the programme is
'• Model Green-houses and How to Build Them," which will be pre-
sented by a gentleman well qualified to instruct us, Mr. John N. May,
of Summit, N. J.
MODEL GREEN-HOUSES, AND HOW TO BUILD THEM.
To build a greenhouse in the best practicHl manner, and, at the same time, in
a reasonably cheap way, is, perhaps, the most important part of the construction
to the working florist ; and to sliow how to do so is my present purpose.
LOCATION.
This is the first step to consider. If for beginners, I would strongly advise
them to work out a plan suitable to all their future requirements, and start the
first house so as to form a part of such plan complete ; but in locating, it is advis-
able to get a position as nearly facing south as possible. It should also be so sit-
uated that perfect drainage can be secured at all times, for no greenhouse will
ever be satisfactory where it is subject to floods, or where the bottom is damp or
unhealthy. Another consideration is level ground ; the nearer level it is the bet-
ter. Although a slight rise in tlie run of a greenhouse, of not more tlian two feet
to one hundred, is not out of tlie way, still, for all practical purposes, I prefer it
level all thiough.
SIZE.
Having selected the position and location for the house, the next thing to con-
sider is the size ; and here I would remark that, having tried nearly every con-
ceivable shape and size of greenliouse for growing plants of various classes in, I
have come to the conclusion that houses of moderate size are much the best for
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PROCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
nearly every puriiose. A very large house has the objection of keeping the i)lants
too far away from the glass, and, moreover, does not give the amount of space
in proportion to the glass area; while, on the other hand, my experience with
small liouses of ten feet wide, and from that up to sixteen feet, is that they are
subject to considerable fluctuations in temperature during very cold or very hot
weather. To avoid both these extremes, I struck a line between the two, and
built nearly all my houses eighteen feet six inches in the clear (surface measure),
and after seven years' experience with this i)articiilar size, I find they are the best
suited for my purpose by a long way, for while I have one sixteen feet wide and
one twenty-four feet wide, I find they neitiier are as satisfactory or as handy to
work as those of eighteen feet six inches. Where it is convenient to build houses
that widtli, I certainly advise them. Presuming that is the size selected, decide
on the lengtli ; then start at the end farthest from the boiler or shed, and stretch
a line wliere the front row of posts is to be set ; then square from the corner
post in front to the corner post for the back eighteen feet six inches. Next take
small pegs; place the first down for the corner, then put one in at three feet
eleven inches from the outside of corner, and tlie next at three feet eleven inclies
from center to center, and so continue placing them close beside the line till the
right length required is reached. Next, mark out where the door is to be placed
on the end; place a peg down for each door-post, allowing three inches for the
jambs between the post and door ; then place pegs at equal distances between that
and the corners.
Ground Plan of Green-House.
Next, stretch another line for the back row of posts parallel with the first, and
eighteen feet six inches from it ; then drive in pegs at same distance from each
other as for the front row. Now, take a spade and mark out for each hole around
the peg, about four inches on the outside of each and eight or nine inches in-
side of it ; this gives room for the post to stand and touch the line, and gives
room to ram it firmly after placing it in position.
Then dig the holes to the right depth -usually about three feet is enough, un-
less the ground is not solid at that depth. As soon as it can be ascertained what
depth is required, have the post long enough so as to allow whatever depth is to
go below ground level, and to stand three feet ten inches above the level
for the front and end posts, and eight feet two inches above ground for the back
post. These, of course, must be faced, before setting, on the side next to the
boarding.
At the shed, or boiler end, the wall of cellar should be built so as to project six
inches to house proper. In this wall pi ice a sill, and from this sill build up tliis
end of the house, and place two studs to carry the ends of gutters, which will
answer in place of the last two posts.
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Ltl
POST
Fia. 1.
ISHOTHINCi
Wlien the posts are all set in position,
prepare your gutter strips four by eight
inches (Fig. 1), by digging them out
the required depth, starting at one
quarter inch, and deepening it one
eighth inch to every three feet ; plow
the under side for drip and edge of
weather-boarding, as shown in tlie same
figure ; select sticks twenty feet long
for this purpose. When worked all ready, level the tops of posts all tlirough, the
front one at three feet eight inches from ground level, the back ones eight feet
from grade. Saw them all off square, tlien fit tlie gutters on, saw the joints witli
square butts and tight, and then spike tliem fast to post, first applying tar or
white lead to the under side of plate and top of post. When this is completed,
and the run of the gutter is even all through to center where leader is put in,
take some gas tar, boil it for some time, and give the hollowed-out part a good
coat from end to end ; this prevents cracking and keeps tiie water from soaking
into the wood.
Next, get the ridge plate (see Fig. 2) and purlin ready (Fig. 3). These are
best jointed by a half splice, and if
fitted nicely, the joints leaded and
well nailed together, it makes a very
neat finish. As soon as they are
ready, a scaffold must be built so as
to allow the workmen to get up near
their work. Then cut three or four
'A
Fio. 3.
pairs of rafters as near as possible to sixteen feet on
the glass line for the front ones, and six feet on the
glass line for the back ones ; place these at five or
six feet apart, and put the ridge plate between them ;
get the pair of end rafters (Fig. 9) up, and start
plumb with these, bracing tliem securely so tliat they remain in v^lace. As soon
as this is done, put np tlie balance of ridge plate all through, and tack it so as to
I 1 prevent its getting out of place. Then commence next
i^ ^ to end rafters, first put np ; make three pattern-sticks
to measure twelve inches and one twelftli of an inch long
(tliis allows twelve-inch glass to bed well) ; then com-
mence and cut the rafters (Fig. 12) witli a crow foot, so
. '^ ) as to bring the glass line wlien fitted even with the hoi- i-TL
FiG. 12. lowed edge of gutter. Nail them fast with finishing nails Fig. 9.
as fast as fitted, placing a pattern stick between at each nailing place. The pur.
lin slionld be put in place before nailing any of the rafters, and held there by
temporary supports from the ground ; tlie same, also, for the ridge plate.
In nailing to the ridge plate, be careful to keep it as near straight as possible,
particularly on the south side, as the ventilating sash fits so much better if the
ridge is quite straight. Each alternate rafter on the top need only be thirteen
feet long, and at top can be left loose till the whole of the rafters are on.
As soon as completed, stretch a line the full length of roof and three feet from
the ridge plate ; square the top ends of each of the thirteen-feet rafters, and cut a
header between each pair of sixteen-feet rafters ; and across top of the short one
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nail header to eacli of tliem, in a plumb line— of course keeping the groove for
glass in it flush with glass line on bars (Fig. 4). As soon as this is completed it is
ready for the sash, wliicli, if properly made, are ready to fit on, ex-
cept that the under side of top rail will want beveling off to fit
evenly to the ridge plate. When fitted all througli, they should
show one inch of the header below the sash; on this they are
hung with galvanized iron butts, liaving a brass pin — the best size
is one and tlu-ee-fourths by two and one-half. These fit nicely, and
are plenty heavy enougli ; they require an inch and a quarter screw, Fi«. 4,
No. 7. Before putting the sash on, I advise that iron columns, made of gas
pipe, be put under ridge and purlin at about ten feet apart, and braced up tight ;
this secures everything in its place.
Next, take the bevel strips (Fig. 5), fit iu carefully between the rafter on the
beveled edge of gutter, lead them well, and nail fast with finishing
nails. As soon as this is completed, the roof is ready for painting and
glazing. I prefer twelve by twenty-four glass for the back, which just
Fig. 5. takes tiiree lights ; for tlie front any length can be used, but for the ven-
tilators one thirty-inch liglit, or two of fifteen inches, can be used.
Next, finish up tlie ends. If glass, (which makes much the neatest finish,) is
to be used, work out a plate (Fig.
6), which fits on post over board-
ing, etc., the same as the gutter
does. When this is completed, n | [_
'^,
^
Fig. 11.
4
take strips sixteen feet long (Fig. 11), place Fig. 6.
on outer edge of gutter, and nail fast. This makes the gutter one inch deeper,
which is very requisite, particularly during heavy thunder showers, etc., when,
if this is not put on, a good deal of the water would rush over the outer edge of
the gutter.
In boarding, I prefer hemlock boards, eight or ten inches wide. Start at the
top ; use a lever, and get each board as tight as possible. When this sheathing
is all on, take the best rosin-sized paper, cover the whole outside, then put on the
outside weather boards, slate, or wliatever is preferred. Novelty siding is, per-
haps, the neatest looking; if this is used, commence at the top, and let the top
edge of board fit up tight into groove of gutter, and nail the top edge of board-
but before nailing lower side, get the next line of boards into position, etc.
If slate is used, the slater must begin at bottom, and measure off the distance
for each course to come out even.
The benches, etc., inside, of course can be fitted up any way to suit the class of
plants to be grown ; but for roses, I think the best is a front bench two feet nine
inches wide, middle bed eight feet six inches, and back bench one foot ten inches
wide. This gives a front walk two feet three inches, and a back walk one foot
ten inches wide, with a ten-inch board laid on the soil of bed to get through the
center for cutting buds, cleaning, etc. (See. Fig. 7). This style of benching I
have found the most satisfactory of any, as it gives every plant a portion of di-
rect sunlight.
For ventilating, I prefer a crank and shafting running all through the house,
and lifting the whole continuous line of shafting at once. It costs but little
more in the first outlay, saves an immense amount of time and trouble in after
years, and when once up will last as long as the house does, only requiring a lit-
tle oil at the cogs occasionally.
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Fig. 7.
Fig. 8.
I have liad a
all whom it
In opening ventilators from the ridge, it is necessary to put a cap (Fig. 8) on
top of ridges. This prevents any drip during heavy rains, and also allows the
ventilators to be opened in any sort of weather required. One great advantage
of ventilating this way is that it lets the heated air out at the
highest point, thereby avoiding cold draughts and currents of air,
which are sure to be more or less troublesome when tlie ventila-
ators are opened the reverse way.
For the better illustration of how such a house is constructed,
model made, which is on exhibition here for the inspection of
may interest.
There is considerable diiference in the material used for building greenhouses
For posts, locust is the best and cheapest in the long run ; next in point of dura
bility is red cedar. If neither of these can be had, take good sound white oak
for this purpose. For the gutters, rafters, etc., pine is the best, but there must
not be the least bit of sap in any part of it if yellow pine is used — and there
ought not to be any in the siding either. For benches, etc., inside, hemlock is
decidedly better and cheaper than pine.
Where the saving of water from the roof of the greenhouse is no object, the
gutter recommended above can be substituted by a three by eight dressed plate,
placed on a level to run the water off, thereby saving some expense and trouble
in preparing the gutter ; and, if in building the greenhouse, it is decided to build
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it of less width, say sixteen feet, rafters of one and one-fourth by two and one
lialf inches are lieavy enough.
One tiling from long experience I have learned is, that it is better to build less
and do it well, than to build to a large extent and never have it satisfactory.
The Chairman, (after the convention had asserted its appreciation
of the excellence of Mr. May's effort in a tumnlt of applause,) said:
I wish to state that Mr. May has prepared a model, which is below in
the exhibition room, illustrating very clearly points set forth Ijy him
in the paper just read. The model may be examined by members at
any time during the present Aveek.
The Chairman : I hold in my hand the reports of the Committees on
Green-House Construction and Other Appliances, and on Cut Flowers,
etc., which will be read.
Tlie reports were here read (in the temporary absence of the Secre-
tary, Mr. Hill,) by President Thorpe, and will be found in the ap-
pendix.
(Note. — At subsequent stages of the meeting of the convention,
additional reports Avere received from the committees on exhibits.
These reports will be found in the appendix.
On motion, the committee reports which had been read were re-
ceived, the committees discharged from tlie further consideration of
the subjects treated of, and the reports ordered to be printed as a part
of the proceedings of the annual meeting.
The Chairman announced, as the next business, the reading of a
paper on " Pot-grown Decorative Foliage Plants for General Purposes,"
bv Mr. James Taplin, of Mavwood, N. J.
POT GROWN decorative PLANTS.
This includes a very wide area, not only comprising variegated plants, but also
decorative plants generally. I am afraid tliis class does not receive tlie attention
it deserves, for the reason that few of the foliage plants have very striking flow-
ers. As a rule, the average amateur asks if it is a lily or if it is a fern, and what
the flower is like. The Society of American Florists wish to spread information
on plants in general, foliage plants included. This will prevent many amateurs
who are willing to buy plants from being victimized by the "fakirs," who are
always willing to sell wonderful plants and the buyer at the same time.
It is difficult to draw a line in this article, for it has been often shown that
decorative foliage plants and variegated plants should not be shown in tlie same
class if prizes are offered ; but we, as free and unhampered florists, make no dis-
tinction in this point, but include all the decorative plants in the same class.
CALADIUMS.
1 may mention a class of plants which, of late years, has gone rather out of
repute without any just cause; that is caladiums. These plants ai-e not only
useful during the summer as pot plants for decorating rooms and green-houses,
but are also fine for cutting leaves to decorate vases mixed with flowers. In
SOCIETY OF AMEBICAN FLOEISTS. 59
addition, it is one of the best plants for putting outside under trees wliere bed-
ding plants will not grow well. These plants are among the easiest to cultivate ;
the tubers, after the plant is at rest, can be stowed in any place that will keep
sweet potatoes well, and the plants, wiien growing, only require good rich soil.
Years ago, when I grew caladiums at Chatswortli, the plants were large masses
in tubs with some of the tubers twelve or more inches in diameter, and foliage
in proportion. These were grown in the Victoria house.
I presume I may call the Victoria Regia a decorative plant, although not grown
in a pot ; also tlie Nelumhimn speciosum, wiiich can be grown in a pot. The strange
leaves with the stem in the center, and the wonderful (lowers and seed stems, ap-
pear to include this plant among the foliage plants. But I need not ramble
away from the strict letter of this paper, or I will require an hour's reading at
least. So i will give a few descriptive notes of some of the most useful decora-
tive plants.
PALMS.
A selection of palms is useful, as J:liey stand tolerably rougli treatment, and
also the dry air of rooms in the winter. Lutania Borhonica is one of the best,
being a regular fan palm, and will stand more rough usage than other palms. If
it is well watered, and the temperature does not go below fifty degrees, it will
flourish in an ordinary room all the winter. I saw some last winter on the man-
tel above tlie stove growing well, but the lady was an enthusiast in plants.
Among otlier palms, Artca lutescens, A. rubra, and A. Verschajfeltii are first-rate
varieties to grow. Cocos WedcUUiana is said to stand the treatment in rooms
well, but being a variety making but few roots, it would be more delicate than
some others.
The Kentias are among the most useful palms grown, and also among the most
ornamental. These palms also make fine specimens without its being necessary
to raise the roof of the green-house.
Among other ])alms, we may mention Phoniicophorium sechellarum , the cele-
brated '' thief pahn," wliicli requires a very high temperature, and is too scarce
for general decorative purposes.
Tlie Phcenix or date palms are among the most useful decorative plants, both
for the green-liouse, and also for room decoration. The variety ritfirestris, a very
strong grower, is good for the green-house, and also for rooms, but the newer
variety, rupicola, is far superior to it.
The Chamcerops are also well adapted for general decoration. The variety
excelsa will survive a few degrees of frost.
The Senforthias are also good decorative plants, but, being very free rooting,
require more attention in watering than most palms. We can, of course, in-
clude among this general collection Zamias, Macrozamia, and Cycas, the latter
being among the most useful plants for general purposes, more especially Cycas
revolida, or sago palm, so well knovvri for furnishing " palm leaves " for funerals ;
why this should be so I cannot tell, the Cycas not being a palm.
But I must mention a few of tlie more fancy foliage plants, leaving out num-
bers of useful plants both for conservatory and house decoration.
CROTONS.
The Crotons, when well grown, are among the most showy plants in cultiva-
tion, both in growtli and color; but to grow tliese plants well, they require liberal
treatment, especially in giving abundant heat, and also what few variegated
60 PROCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
plants need, abnndant light. A small plant well colored is better than a large
one without color. Tliere have been so many sports and seedlings among Crotons
of late years that it would be difficult to say wliich is the best, but among all
the new varieties, (and I have grown a number of tliem tolerably well,) 1 think
I would prefer the old angusHfoUum, as exhibited by Tliomas Bains in England
many years ago. I exhibited many varieties before the New York Horticultural
Society some years ago, including angustifoUum, perfectly colored, like a fountain
of gold, and I think yet I like tliat better than the Mooreana, Disraeli, Veitch'ii,
or any of tlie other sorts. 15ut Crotons require liberal treatment, and are not
plants suited to room decoration, as tiiey must have a temperature not less than
sixty degrees at any time, including plenty of moisture in the atmosphere. A
good loam, with plenty of drainage, is the best pot treatment. I may mention
that, altliough this country has abundance of insects, I liave noticed we can ob-
tain various new and choice species with the imported Crotons, which usually
prevent any imported plants from making specimens, the only chance being to
obtain a shoot on the top and make a plant from the cutting. I mention this
from numerous trials, and I may also observe that I never saw any insects on
plants from their native country, and seldom any plants without from Europe.
DRAC^NAS.
Dracjenasare indispensable plants in general decoration, and most of the species
and varieties will stand rougli treatment. Tliere has been a number of species
and varieties introduced of late years, from their native tropics, and also large
numbers of seedlings raised both in Europe and America. I saw several seed-
lings, raised near Boston, quite up to the mark.
There is always a good demand for D. terminalis wlien well colored, and this
species will always sell, it being a good room plant.
ASPIDISTRA.
This old plant is quite useful to fill boxes and vases in rooms. It will stand any
rough usage, including ten degrees of frost.
PANDANUS.
Although there are many species of these Screw pines, all more or less distinct,
the only sort of general utility is P. utilis, the most valuable of all, whicli is used
for room decoration more than any other plant. It will stand any sort of rough
treatment short of freezing. P. javanicus variegatus and P. VeitcliH are both
variegated, but much more tender than utilis. These two should never remain in
a temperature below sixty degrees for any length of time.
NEPENTHES.
We can scarcely avoid mentioning the Nepenthes or pitcher plants, which cer-
tainly are included in decorative foliage plants. In former times there was sup-
posed to be a secret in growing these plants, but this was dissipated years ago,
when people discovered that tiiese plants could be raised from seed by thousands,
and propagated from cuttings like verbenas, and also grown easier than verbenas
of late years. I do not say we can plant them out in beds on the lawn, but if we
have a warm, close house, with temperature from seventy degrees upwards, with
some rough peat and live sphagnum to grow in, the plants require less attention
than an ordinary bed of verbenas.
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SARRACENIA,
an American lutcher plant, mnst also be included in this article, being plants
of easy culture, and none of the varieties require very much heat. Tiie species
purpurea is a native of swamps from New York to Canada, and although I have
seen it growing in a warm house in England, I have gathered it in a swamp on
a mountain In New Jersey. The pitcher on these plants varies in growth and
color as much as the flower. S. imypurea, the native of the Northern States,
grows but a few inches above the soil, while S. Drummondii, from the South,
will grow two feet high. Although all the flowers are strange and wonderful,
one species smells like violets, while another smells like anything but violets ! 1
have seen various sorts of insects perish by the thousand in the pitchers of both
these plants, and also in the pitchers of tlie Ifepenthesso much so that the
pitcher decayed, wiiich refuted Darwin's theory that they fed on them.
MARANTAS.
These are among the most beautiful of foliage plants, and wiien well grown are
excellent, but they require a very high, moist temperature, with shade at all
times from briglit sun. Under these conditions, the plants are easily grown, and
well repay the grower for the trouble. Among tlie varieties, virginalis major,
Veitchii, rosea-picta, and 2)rinceps are about the best.
ARUNDO DONAX VARIEGATA
is among the decorative plants, both inside and out of doors. Years ago it was
grown for exhibition in a collection of foliage plants.
FICUS ELASTICA,
or India-rubber plant, is indispensable as a pot-plant for winter decorations. It
will stand any heat and gas, if it is kept from very low temperature, well sup-
plied with water, and the leaves frequently washed to clean from dust.
CISSUS AND DIOSCOREA.
Of climbing foliage plants, the Cissus and Dioscorea are the most showy, the
one being related to the grape-vine and the other to the sweet potato. Both re-
quire <i dense, moist, shady house, with abundance of heat to keep them in good
condition. A tropical water-lily house is one of the best places for these plants.
CYANOPHYLLUM AND SPH.EROGYNE.
Oyanophyllum magnificum and Sjjhceroqyne lutifoUa are both splendid plants
when well grown. Both require the same treatment as Cissus, and both, if ex-
posed to a dry or cold atmosphere, will drop the leaves, only the bare stem re-
maining.
MUSA,
or bananas, are best known in this country by the fruit, but are very ornamental
plants, either for a large conservatory or planted in a sheltered place out of doors
during the summer. 31, ensete is conspicuous for large foliage, and M. coccinea
for its brilliant spathe of flowers.
PHORMIUM.
The New Zealand flax, or Phormiurtu tenax variegata, is an excellent plant, both
for green-house and room decoration in the winter. They are very easily grown
for planting outside in the summer, only requiring plenty of water.
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SONEUILA.
These are among the genus of foliage plants, and, although belonging to the
same natural order as Cyanophyllum, which would grow twenty or more feet
high under favorable circumstances, the Sonerila seldom exceeds six inclies in
height. For many years only one species was in cultivation — S. margaritacea.
It was a charming little plant, with small, oval leaves, dotted with silver, and
in the winter covered with spikes of rose-colored flowers. Being a native of
Java, it needs a very liigh temperature, but requires propagating each year, as
it must be almost an annual. A few years ago tliere were several distinct vari-
eties introduced, which varied much in the foliage, but with the same type of
flowers. Some of the leaves were silvered over, and otiiers striped. I do not
know if these varieties were seedlings or sports, but from variations I have seen
in cultivation, i think they were sports. At any rate, they are all beautiful, and
all require tlie same treatment.
BERTALONIAS.
These are charming decorative plants related to the Sonerihis, but with much
larger and more beautifully colored leaves. Tliey require much tlie same treat-
ment as tiie above, but need a closer and moister place; in fact, a glass case in a
warm iiouse with dense sliading suits them best.
BEGONIAS.
The Bex varieties, of which tliere are many, will do for conservatory decora-
tion, and also for inside and outside baskets. Any light, rich soil will grow these
plants well, with lots of water in the summer, but nearly dry in the winter.
COLEUS.
A few of the most distinct and bright colors make useful plants for conserva-
tory decorations. With ricii soil and an abundance of water, grown in full sun,
they make a flne display.
FERNS,
of course, are indispensable, but in the space of this article I cannot mention
many varieties. All the sorts require more or less shade and abundance of
water, esi)ecially during the summer, but such as Gtjmnogramma and Pteris tri-
color must not be watered over the foliage. Adkmtum and Pteris are among the
most generally useful for ordinary decorations, both in glass-houses and in rooms ;
whilst the Dicksonia and Cyhotium are among the best tree ferns for those who
have laige green-houses. Nothing is more delicate, eitlier as plants or for cut-
ting, than the Oleichcnia, which only requires a green-house kept at a tempera-
ture of forty degrees in winter. These plants, throwing out suckers in the way
of a raspberry cane, naturally require more surface space than depth, and are
best grown in pots wider than they are deep.
AGAVES AND YUCCAS.
Tiiese are very handsome foliage plants, and are especially useful for outside
decorations during the summer, and require less attention in winter than plants
in general. The very thick-leaved varieties, such as A. Americana, will stand in
a warm shed from autumn until spring without being watered.
MONSTERA DELICIOSA.
An old plant not much in cultivation ; does well out of doors during summer,
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but grown in a warm green-house, where its roots can wander in a tank of water,
it is most at home and will fruit freely. Its strange arum-like fruit, which re-
quires a year to ripen, is beautifully scented, and of a tine flavor, but must be
eaten at a certain stage of ripeness ; otlierwise there are numerous sharp prickles
in tlie sections of fruit, which act on the throat somewhat the same way as
prickly pear spines.
PAPYRUS ANTIQUOKUM,
said to be the paper plant of the Egyptians, is a handsome decorative plant for
the green-house in tlie winter, or for lakes and ponds, or even in tlie sub-tropical
garden, during tlie summer. It has a grace peculiar to itself, but assorts well
with such plants as Nelumbimn or Caladiiim esculentum.
The Chairman announced, as the next business, the reading of a
paper on " Carnations and Their Treatment," by Joseph Tailby, of
Wellesley, Mass.
THE PROPAGATION AND CULTIVATION OF THE PERPETUAL CARNATION.
We will begin with the propagation. The best time for this is about the last
week in February to the middle of March. Before taking the cuttings, perhaps
it would be best to prepare a place for them. I use six-inch pans, three and one
half inches deep. Boxes will answer the same purpose. Place crocks over the
holes in the bottom, then about one inch of coal ashes, and fill up with clean sand.
Make firm, give a good watering, and they are then ready for use. I prefer this
to the bench system, and will give my reaS'Mis further on.
In selecting the cuttings, choose short-jointed, tolerably firm, but not too hard
wood, with one pair of fully developed foliage. Pull at a joint as near the base as
possible. Place them in the hand with the lower ends even, and wlien you have
as many as you can conveniently hold, trim off the tips. I do not think this
makes much difference. It is about the same as cutting a dog's ears - it makes
him look a little neater, and there is not so much of him to wilt if he gets into a
fight. This is the time the carnation begins to fight on its own account.
As soon us the cuttings are prepared, place them in water, as they should not
be allowed to got dry. Then dibble firm in the pans, give a good watering, place
in a cool, shady position, and sprinkle often. When well calloused, give a little
air. As soon as they are rooted, shift to a more exposed position, (this is where
the pan has an advantage over the bench,) so as to harden them off before trans-
planting in boxes or pots, as the case may be. I plant in boxes about one and one
half inches apart, using boxes about three inches deep, with about one inch of
drainage. For compost, take two parts of loam to one of well-rotted manure.
If the loam is stiff , add a little sand. After planting, water moderately, just
enough to settle the soil firmly about the roots, Sliade and sprinkle for a few
days until they are established. After this give more air and not too much
bright sun. The most critical time is from now until they get into the open
ground. If they are allowed to become di"y or get scorched, the rust or canker is
sure to attack them. Keep from green fly and red spider. As soon as perfectly
established, move to cold frame. Give all the air possible, but do not let them
freeze.
As soon as the weather will permit, and the land is in good working order,
plant out in rows fifteen inches apart, and ten inches in the rows. The best soil
is good yellow loam, rather light. They will make more fibrous roots, but not so
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much growtli as in lieavy soil. It is not robust growtli we want, but good, firm
wood. For manure, I find horse manure the best. If the soil is old, tliat is,
been under cultivation a long time, give a good dressing of lime. The reason
that the carnation does not do well in old land, is the deficiency of lime. The
carnation is something like wheat. Too much manure and a deficiency of lime
will not only produce an abundance of coarse straw and bran, but disease also.
The flour from such wheat is coarse and of poor quality. It is just the same with
the cai-nation. New land is the best, although I have grown my plants on the
same land for the past ten years, and they have always done well. Any one else
can do the same by following the above treatment. Of course the plants must
be stopped during the season so as to make them stocky.
Get the plants inside before the cold weather sets in, so as to have them well
started before using fire heat. For compost, use three or four parts of good
maiden loam to one of rotten manure. Plant about ten inches apart and give a
good watering, so as to settle the soil well at the roots. Sprinkle two or three
times a day until plants are well established, and begin to make new roots.
After this, they will take more water and all tlie air you can give tliem. Look
out for the green fly. Cneck it as soon as it makes its appearance. Tlie tempera-
ture of the house should not be lower than forty-five degrees at niglit, and from
fifty-five to sixty-five degrees by day. This, of course, will depend upon the
weather. Give plenty of air, even at the expense of a bit of coal. Do not give
too much water. Unless airing and watering are properly attended to, you cannot
get good flowers or keep your plants in a iiealtliy condition.
About tlie beginning of January, give them a dressing of good fertilizer or
liquid manure. You can repeat the dose once a month. I have not yet men-
tioned anything as to pot culture. The treatment is the same, only the compost
should be made richer and coarser. The best is rotted turf chopped about half
the size of an egg ; pot firmly. A six-inch pot is large enough to grow them in.
Give one and a half inches of drainage, using the same material as for the cutting
pans. When the pots get tolerably full of roots, give liquid manure once a week.
A very good liquid is made by using one ounce of sulphate of ammonia to three
gallons of water. I prefer this to liquids made from manure, as it is cleaner to
handle, and does not clog the pores of the soil in the pots, and answers the same
purpose.
In regard to the disease of the carnation, I am not sure that there is any cure
for it. I am now experimenting on it. To prevent it, keep these rules in mind:.
Get healthy cuttings, root them slowly, and as soon as rooted, give them air and
more room. This you can do if they are in pans and boxes. If in cutting bed,
get them out as soon as rooted. Should they stay in bed they get weak. This
is when the disease attacks them. Tliis point I am sure of. Do not check them
in their growth from the time they are rooted until they are in the open ground.
If your soil is in good condition, I do not think that the disease will trouble you,
I am satisfied if the treatment, as laid down in this article, is adhered to, that
you will not be troubled with any disease.
The best houses to grow them in are large and roomy, with a southern aspect;
due south, that is, if you want them for winter use only ; a little east of south, if
you wish to grow them all summer, as I do. In small houses you cannot give
air at times when it is wanted. Take, for instance, when the tliermometer indi-
cates zero outside with a bright sun shining. As soon as you open the ventila-
tors, the cold air is on the plants, and your house is chilled, when, before the air
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 65
was put on, it was up to ninety-six or one hundred degrees. With a large liouse,
you can give air at any time wlien necessary. The weather outside may be dull
and raw, but never mind. The air admitted is fresh, and in a large house is
moderated to the temperature of the house before it gets to the plants. It will
take a little more coal, but this is a slight matter when the health of your plants
and tlie quality of the flowers are taken into consideration,
Mr. Hendrick, of Albany, N. Y : From that little island on the
other side of the Atlantic, we have had imported some rare specimens
of men and things, and among them is this " Tail-boy," or Tail-by,
who has given us some useful information on the subject of carnation-
growing.^ We shall not forget his quaint remark about the trimming
of the dog's ears and like expressions, and we shall remember him
most pleasantly for his paper of this afternoon. I have no doubt you
will agree w'ith me when I say that he deserves our united thanks for
his very excellent paper, and I most cheerfully accord him mine. I
would like to include in the vote of thanks a similar cordial acknowl-
edgment to our genial friend and able plantsman, James Taplin.
The Chairman here stated the motion, viz : That a vote of thanks
be extended to Messrs. Tailby and Taplin for their able and excellent
papers on ''Carnations" and "Decorative Foliage Plants."
The motion w^as carried by a unanimous vote.
THE QUESTION BOX.
The Chairman : A number of queries have been deposited in the
Question Box, and it is the duty of the Chair to see that they are an-
swered.
The President (Mr. Thorpe): One of the questions deposited in
the box is this : '' Do the auction sales injure the poor florist 'i " (Gen-
eral merriment and applause.) The Chair does not know a gentle-
man more capable of making a satisfactory reply to that question than
Mr. Peter Henderson.
" Mr. Peter Henderson responded : I am afraid that I am indebted
for this honor to my friend, the Hon. Robert McCrone, an ex-member of
the Connecticut Legislature, and at one time, I believe, a presiding
officer in that body. AVill the Chair kindly repeat the question so
that I may know what it is ?
The President : '' Do auction sales injure the poor florist? "
Mr. Henderson : Tliere is no doubt that they do, and there is no
doubt whatever that they injure the rich florist, if such a person exists.
I believe "that the practice is one that affects the business of the flor-
ist, whether he is rich or poor, more seriously than any other possible
thing could. I would give to-day, gentlemen, five thousand dollars a
year if I could stop auction sales in New York, and I would make
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ten thousand dollars a year by so doing. I have tried my best to pen-
sion off William B. Elliott and to endeavor to have him stop every-
body else, but he Avill not accommodate me.
You may ask me, '' Why do you countenance auction sales ? " My
reply is that, I do it in self-defense. Until about six or seven years
ago I did not sell a plant at auction in the spring. I then found that
my entire sales for an area of two hundred miles around New York
had been cut off by somebody else selling at auction, and that I had
to take a hand in it if I would save myself. That is the real fact
about the matter. But, gentlemen, you cannot stop this thing. There
is no way of stopping it that I know of. It is simply a natural inci-
dent of the competition of trade, and, no matter how much we all
suffer from it, (because we all do suffer from it,) there seems to be no
way by which we can stop it.
A Delegate : It is like the black spot — you cannot stop it.
Mr. Henderson : Yes, exactly. If any of you gentlemen can tell
me of a way of stopping it, I would be glad to hear it.
The Chairman (after Mr. Henderson had retired) called attention
to the interesting character of the subject, and invited five-minute
remarks by gentlemen disposed to throw light upon it.
A delegate moved that the gentleman from Connecticut (Mr. Mc-
Crone be now given an opportunity to be heard upon the question, in
opposition to auction sales.
The motion prevailed without objection.
Mr. Robert McCrone, of Thomson ville, Conn., here made his appear-
ance in the open space in front of the i)latform, and was received with
a furore of enthusiasm and genuine good humor. He said :
Gentlemen : In speaking on this question, it is not my intention to
cast any reflection upon what are called " large growers." I contend
simply to-night that, in this matter, large growers are the largest suf-
ferers. I had intended to submit a motion here on the subject, and
it was one with a benevolent purpose and designed to save all men,
but more particularly the large growers. The operation of this auc-
tion system shows that it arises from a selfish disposition in human
nature to centralize everything in the hands of a comparative few by
crushing out the small growers. Practically, it has brought about this
condition of things, that all small growers are crushed out, and now
the large growers are going to crush out each other ; and they are going
to be the great losers in the matter.
Now, gentlemen, the question has been very pertinently asked here
to-night, " What are we going to do about it ?" They ask us, •' Isn't
this a land of liberty — can't every man sell his goods as he likes ?"
SOCIETY or AMERICAN FLORISTS. " 67
To be sure it is; to be sure he can; but, gentlemen, the situation is
this — humanity through all its progress has shown the same thing —
that men operate from two motives ; one motive being a fear of con-
sequences, while the great motive that actuates mankind is a regard
for the good-will of our fellow-men. Now I say that if this conven-
tion expresses its opinion on this subject, it will declare that its regard
for the good-will of all men dictates that it shall protest against indi-
vidual liorists being ruined by a few growers. We do not come here
as Knights of Labor, gentlemen ; we do not come here to enunciate
the ideas of that class, but we come here to protect our individual
selves ; and if we do not do that, it is useless for us to come here to
flatter each other, and go home with mere nonsense in our mouths.
(Merriment.) Why is a civilized man the superior of a savage? It
is because he has the capacity to look after his own interests in a care-
ful, cool, and intelligent way. We came here to do that. We have
undertaken to-day to look over our business historically, and forty
years is the period over which we have looked back. Forty years ago
a bricklayer was getting from $1.50 to $2 per day, and by taking care
of his own interests — as we propose to do here to-night — lie now gets
$3. .50 per day. He is not a Knight of Labor any more than we are
Knights of Labor. Now, what we want is this : that we should get as
much from the product of our labor as the market will fairly give us,
and that we should get as large a percentage of the product of our
labor as the markets of the country will give us. Is not that going
to make us better off, to make us more intelligent and better men ?
Now, I say that tliis auction system originates in selfishness, and greed,
and tyranny, and that its effect is to crush the small florists in our
midst. AVhy, gentlemen, the grand maxim of Christianity is this :
" Love your neiglil)or.-' This auction system is the climax of the op-
posite doctrine, '•'■ Kill your neighbor as quick as you can." We are
in an historic city — one with a wonderful history of peace — and we are
taught to-day, from the highest to the lowest, tliat we ought to love
each other. The i)eople of this city are true to its traditions ; and even
those in the same business, if in different localities, love each other
like brothers, but if they happen to live on the same street, they have
a Belfast riot !
(Note. — At this point the utterances of the speaker became wholly
inaudible at the reporter's seat, being completely drowned in the up-
roar of hilarity i^rovoked by his i)eculiar earnestness and enthusiasm.
In the interval of quiet which followed an announcement by the Chair
that the allotted ten minutes had expired, Mr. McCrone was heard to
reply that he, with others, having come all the way from Connecticut ,
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meant to speak their minds on tlie pending question, and lie was now
satisfied with the opportunity that had been given him.)
The President : Another question found in the box — I don't know
whetlier I dare submit it — is this : " Shall we deal direct with the re-
tail florists or through brokers?" The Chair would request Mr. Stew-
art to kindly reply to that query.
Mr. W>M. J. Stewart, of Boston, Massachusetts, promptly responded
as follows :
The duty of answering that question ought to have been assigned
to some one other than myself, if an unbiased answer is wanted, be-
cause you can all anticipate what would naturally be my reply to such
a query. I answer, '• Certainly deal with a broker." I will tell you in
a very few words the reason for it, and I trust that in what I say it will
not be inferred that I am influenced by any undue personal consider-
ation.
In dealing with the retailers, your transactions are distributed
among a number of people, and you are compelled to keep a number
of accounts, some of whicli are of considerable length. In dealing
with a broker, your business transactions are conducted with only one
individual, and vou have easv access to your account, and are not
su1))ected to loss of time in hunting around to collect bills in driblets.
Another consideration is that, through the broker, j^ou have facilities
for reaching a better market than you are likely to reach in the other
case. The broker, with the means of communication which he com-
mands through the medium of telegraphic and railroad facilities, and
his acquaintance with the details of the business and with the people
engaged in it. can readily bring you into communication with all the
markets that are within a thousand miles of your door. By this means
you save, also, the cost of one man's time. I do not know that I
ought to say it, but it has been truly said that we have found, in Bos-
ton, when a man goes to the city in the morning to sell flowers, he is
not worth much, if anything, for the rest of tlie day. I trust, how-
ever, that that may not have been the experience of those whom I
now address. You might as well take it for granted, however, that
if you are going to sell to retailers you have to charge yourselves with
this item of one man's time.
I would suggest further that, in dealing with the broker, you are
more apt to secure uniform, as well as better, prices. The considera-
tion which is entitled to the greatest weight is, perhaps, the fact that
very few growers who have made a practice of consigning their goods
to brokers have abandoned that practice. Many who have tried the
plan of selling to retailers have afterwards tried the commission
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLOEISTS. 69
men. You may say that the hitter have not invariably given satis-
faction ; bnt, after all, the fact remains that, as a rule, those who patron-
ize them stick to them ; and it is fair to assume that they know their
own business best. I think that what I have now stated may be con-
sidered as answering the question.
A Delegate : How is it when the commission men do not pay you
anything?
Mr. Stewart : I would reply to that by asking, how is it when the
retailer don't pay you anything? I have myself sent to many retail-
ers, and have got nothing; and it may be fairly assumed that in that
respect your chances, when consigning your goods, are about even in
either case. If a commission man, with three or four hundred ac-
counts on his books, collects within five per cent., he does well.
A Delegate : If he gives you nothing on Avhat he collects — if he
keeps the whole business — how is it then?
Mr. Stewart: I would prefer not entering into a discussion of the
subject at this time, as the duty assigned me is discharged by a direct
reply on my part to the question as submitted. The subject is not
presented in the form of an essay, and in the few words to which I
have called your attention, I have endeavored to reply to the best of
my ability.
The President : "■ Wiiich will be the most fashionable flowers for
next winter's use ?" is the next question from the box. Mr. J. M. Jor-
dan will please reply.
Mr. J. ]M. Jordan, of St. Louis, Mo., responded that, when a boy, he
was taught, in attempting to elucidate an idea, not to volunteer his
own opinion, but to cite proofs or facts having a tendency to substan-
tiate the idea. He desired to say that, as he did not claim to be an
embodiment of wisdom, he could only answer the question by citing
the results of his e very-day observations, and by judging of the prob-
abilities of the future by the actual developments of the past under
like conditions. He continued :
When I look around me in the various places in which tlorists are
preparing their product for next winter, what do I see? When I visit
one of these places with fifty thousand feet of glass, to what do I find
it devoted? I find that one small house has been given to violets,
another little house to lilies of the vallej^ ; but that the great bulk of
the establishment, about four-fifths of it, is appropriated to roses. If
I go into the market and ask the florists who are making up the
flowers for the trade, I am told that about four-fifths of the product of
their stores consists of roses. If I find that the sales of roses in the
establishment of one florist amount to one thousand per day, of what do
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I find the balance to consist ? He will have, perhaps, a few hundred
lilies of the valley and a comparatively small quantity of difterent vari-
eties. Flowers that are the most fashionable are naturally those for
wdiich there is the most demand and readiest sale, and these are the flow-
ers which are generally produced by the growers. I do not know what
may be the most fashionable flower in the coming winter, but I can
surmise what it will be from what experience in the past has shown,
I know that, ten years ago, in the establishment with which I am con-
cerned, w^e had probably about one hundred roses per week, and used
from five or six hundred to one thousand camelias. Now that is
changed, and we use our thousand or more of roses per day, more in
one day than we formerly used in an entire winter ; and I think the
end is not yet.
The President : Still another question remains for reply. It is
this : "Are orchids the coming flowers, or, in other words, will the
orchid drive out the rose as that flower has driven out the tuberose
and camelia?" Mr. Siebrect will reply.
Mr. Henry A. Siebreciit, of New Rochelle, N. Y. : This question
is rather a bold and a sharp one, and requires a broad answer, l)ut I
do not propose to answer it to the point. Orchids, as you all know,
have been introduced among our growers of late years, though this
claim can hardly be made for them from a commercial stand-point, as
private parties have had their own way, so far as orchids are con-
cerned, until within the last three or four years. The reason for this
was because of the price of the plants, either in the way of imj^orting
them from Europe as established plants, or in getting them from their
native clime in the dormant state. My friends say I am an enthusiast
on orchids. Perhaps I am, for I confess to you it is my firm belief
that orchids, some day or another, will be " the flower." I do not
say that roses are going to be driven out — not at all. The rose will
still be the " queen of flowers." There is no getting away from that
fact, because there are too many well-founded reasons why orchids
can never take the place of roses. In the first place, you cannot
have them in quantities. In the next place, you cannot produce them
for the million. On the other hand, roses and other flowers are pro-
liferous. The rose business is now conducted with such precision, and
the future supply so well regulated in advance, that dealers can safely
make contracts at the beginning of the year for large quantities of
roses at a specified price, to be delivered at some time in the future.
It is impossible to do this with orchids — their time has not yet come.
Nevertheless, as I said before, I am a firm believer that, at some time
or other, orchid's wall find a place for themselves and may take the
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place of your fancy roses. M}^ reason for this belief is based upon the
proneness of our profession to copy after the old country. We have
introduced their roses as they came along, and have grown, sold, and
used them. The orchid is the choice flower in England and other
European countries to-day. Under present conditions, however, as I
have said, the orchid cannot drive out the rose, because of the impos-
sibility of tilling large contracts for orchids exclusiveh^, as the supply
is insufficient. Xo amount of money could induce a florist to take an
order for furnishing orchids for an extensive floral decoration, as he
could not possibly procure them. AVhenever the supply has suffici-
ently increased to warrant their sale at a reasonable market price,
orchids will begin to pay in a commercial sense and will be fashion-
able, but we will have to wait until that time arrives. In the event of
the rose dropping out because of black spot or disease, the orchid
would very probably be its successor.
The President : The next question from the box is this : " Should
not this Society take some action condemning the practice of rich
men going into the business of raising cut flowers for the city market."
The Chair calls upon Mr. ITexdrick to respond.
Mr. James Hexdrick, of Albany, N. Y. : I prefer not to reply'; but,
as it becomes my duty, I answer, most emphatically and decidedly,
" no '' — a thousand times " no !" AVhat constitutes wealth ? Is it
more than the result of accumulated labor, and which of you has not
the same aims that the wealthy man has ? As long as God has given
me a head to tliink and a two-handed estate to work with, what need
I care for the man of Avealth in a country like this of ours, where com-
petition will always bring to tlie front the best ? I have listened with
much interest to-night to the various questions and the answers to
them, and have kept quiet in listening to this reported evil of auction-
ing plants off, and I ask, as Tweed once did, '' What are you going to
do about it ? " If William B. Elliott was to cease to-morrow, others
would rise in his place like mushrooms. If this Society condemns the
auctioning of plants, and those engaged in that business should relin-
quish it instantly, we should find, in less than six months from now,
that the number of people engaged in and willing to sustain the prac-
tice is fully equal to the number now engaged in it and who are op-
posed to it. To modify evils of that character, we have to meet them
like men. If the auctioneer is the best man to sell our product, let
him sell it and be subject to private competition. All other classes
of business are subject to the same competition. Wliat better is ours
than theirs ? Submit to competition — the public will appreciate it.
I have answered this question as well as I knew how. I noted with
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pleasure the enthusiasm of my friend McCrone. Enthusiasm is one
of the forces of nature. AVhat would business be, nay, what would
the world be, wliat would this Society be, if deprived of enthusiasm ?
While I may not approve of his theories, I would, in the strongest
manner, exhort this Society to infuse as much enthusiasm as possil)le
into all of its operations. AVhat I said this morning I now repeat: If
you want to excel, do as Emerson advises — hitcli your wagon to a
star and drive up to it.
The President : The next question is, " What is the cause of the
disease called ' club root ' on roses, and what is the remedy ? " Mr.
J. N. May will kindly reply.
Mr. John N. May, of Summit, N. J., resjDonded : It is caused by an
insect wliich deposits its eggs on the roots, the deposits developing
in what is known as " club root." The remed}^ is to clean out the
old soil and substitute fresh maiden loam, taken from a place where
no trees are growing.
One word upon another sul)ject. Tlie rose is not tlie only plant in
existence which is subject to black spot. In my experience, 1 have
found orchids very much afflicted with that disease. (Merriment.)
Tlie President (Inimorously): Gentlemen, I think tlie black spot
is spreading very rapidlj^ !
On motion of Mr. Hendrick, the convention here adjourned until
ten o'clock, a. m., on Fridaj^, 20th instant.
Atlantic City, N. J.,
Thursday, August -?£*, 1886.
The Society of American Florists arrived here on a pleasure excur-
sion this morning, escorted by the Florists' Club of Philadelphia.
Many of the visitors were accompanied by ladies, and their number
was estimated to be six hundred and thirty-five. The United States
Hotel was the head-quarters and place of rendezvous. The visitors
occupied themselves in bathing, fishing, sailing, sight-seeing, and the
other pastimes of a seaside resort.
At noon the excursionists sat down to a lunch in the spacious din-
ing-room of the United States Hotel. Mr. William F. Dreer, chair-
man of the reception committee appointed by the Florists' Club of
Philadelphia, made the following address :
Ladies and Gentlemen : It gives me great pleasure, on behalf of
the Florists' Club, of Philadelphia, to welcome you all to the " city by
the sea." We are anxious that you should enjoy j^ourselves, and hope
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLOEISTS.
73
that the attractions of tliis resort will be sufficiejit to divert your
minds from all business thoughts. They remove us temporarily, from
business to soil, water, and wind, the three opposites to our pursuits ;
but we hope that they will stimulate appetites such as only horticul-
turists can enjo3^
We anticipate for you a promenade on the beach ; music in the
pavilion ; a dip in the sea; and, by seven o'clock, p. m., a safe return
to tlie City of Brotherly Love.
Chairman Dreer further announced that no set toasts would be
given, as it had been arranged to defer all speeches. He also stated
that the ladies' local committee would hold a session to-morrow,
21st inst, at nine o'clock, a. 31., at the Colonnade Hotel, Philadelphia,
and would escort their lady guests to Fairmount Park and other
places of interest.
The orchestra here began a series of performances, and the ban-
queters x)roceeded to do justice to the feast set before them.
The festivities terminated, and the excursionists took tlieir depar-
ture at seven o'clock, for Philadelphia, which was reached at half past
nine, p. m.
SECOND DAY— Morning.
Horticultural Hall, Philadelphia,
Fridau, August 20, 1886.
The convention re-assembled pursuant to the adjournment on the
18th instant, Mr. J. M. Jordan of St. Louis, Missouri, in the chair.
President Thorpe, in an informal way, expressed the hope tliat all
the ladies and gentlemen present had enjoyed themselves as he had
on the Atlantic trip. He declared his firm belief that the day was
the most enjoyable one of his life.
The Chairman announced, as the first business in order, tlie selec-
tion of a place for the next annual meeting.
Mr. John Henderson, of Flushing, NeAv York, suggested that the
meeting in 1887 be held at Chicago.
Mr. Myron A. Hunt, of Chicago, cordially seconded the suggestion?
and pleaded the claims to recognition to which he believed Chicago
to he entitled at the hands of the Society of American Florists. He
reminded the convention tliat two years ago last June, the Society
had its birth in tliat city. Now, when it had developed into an in-
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strumentality of great influence and usefulness, the Society should
not deny to its foster-mother the gratification of embracing her own
off spring. In behalf of the florists of Chicago, he urged the adoption
of the proposition without dissent, and stated that he held in his hand
a letter which he had received this morning from one of the repre-
sentative men of Chicago, who was largely engaged in the business
of floriculture, expressing regret in being unable to attend the con-
vention at this time, and an assurance of his desire that the next
annual meeting should be held in Chicago.
Mr. C. B. AViiiTNALL, of Milwaukee, AVisconsin, supplemented the
appeal just made by stating that many of the delegates from the
North-West, m ho came from towns which did not possess the requisite
facilities for accommodating the convention, would, with the consent
of the Chicago delegates, gladly join hands with the latter in welcom-
ing the Society at its next meeting.
The CiiAiR:\rAX remarked that, as the apparent unanimity of senti-
ment in favor of Chicago foreshadowed the selection of that city, he
desired to say, on l)ehalf of St. Louis, he believed the visitors would
be heartily welcomed, and tliat the delegations from Boston and all
other points throughout the East would have an exceedingly pleasant
experience if they would only come out and see their friends in the
AYest. He added : Chicago and St. Louis are neighbors, close together,
and have a common interest in each other's success. As you all know,
we are always very friendly toward each other! (Great laughter.)
Mr. James Hexdrick, of Albany, New York. It affords me great
pleasure to enunciate the fact that the millenium is approaching, if
we are not already in the midst of it. Chicago, St. Louis, and Mil-
waukee join, and they join in inviting us to Chicago! Can we re-
f u se ? No ! ( Applause. )
The Chairman here submitted the question to the convention, and it
was determined by a unanimous vote to hold the next annual meet-
ing in Chicago.
The Chairman announced, as the next business, the election of of-
ficers of the Society for the ensuing year, and invited nominations for
the office of president.
Mr. John N. May of Summit, New Jersey : I rise to nominate a
gentleman of whom I can speak from actual personal observation in
my association with him in a business way, and who, by reason of
his general aptitude and experience, is eminently fitted to discharge
the duties of the chief executive officer of this Society. I am confi-
dent that when I mention it, all who hear his name will coincide with
me in recommending him. He is a man of sterling worth, of indom-
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 75
itable energy, and one who is untiring in his zeal for the promotion of
tlie interests of this Society. I regret that business of a more tlian ordi-
narily urgent character calls him from our midst this morning. Doubt-
less you have all realized to whom I allude. He is to be found in the
person of Mr. Robert Craig.
Several delegates seconded the nomination.
Mr. James Hendrick, of Albany, New York : I rise for the purpose
of indorsing most cheerfully and emphatically every word that has
been said to the credit, the renown, and the energy of Mr. Craig, of
Philadelphia. But I would be false to j^ou, false to myself, and to my
convictions if I did not say one word or two additional l)efore this
election takes place, and I trust you will bear witli me if I try to be
in order and not make my speech too long.
Looking on the face of nature, every observer realizes how short
the life of the alder is, and how long that of the oak is. We under-
stand perfectly well the dilference between the annual and the per-
ennial flower. That good old book pf ours tells us that grass lasts for
a day. It is cut down and burned in the oven and is no more. On
the face of all nature there is this constant change. There is no
greater curse to the age in which we live than this constant desire for
change in governmental offices. It is marked by defalcation in every
prominent city. If that is so, is it not time, and is not the opportun-
ity presented in the commencement of this Society, that we should
lay our foundations deep and permanent, and not prone to the evils
of constant change ? With tliis view, I propose just at this time, for
the consideration of the Executive Committee entrusted with the man-
agement of the affairs of this Society, that in arranging for its future
officers, the provision be embodied in our rules that elective officers
are eligible for re-election for a term not exceeding three years.
In a society like this one. which is scarcely past the age of infancy, it
would have afforded me pleasure to indorse the entire officers of the
Society for at least another term. I would have done that under the
conviction that I was serving the best interests of the organization in
laying a foundation that would last longer than these gray hairs. But
since the custom is otherwise, I am not here to oppose the nomination
of Mr. Craig — I am here to second that — but I wish to put in the sug-
gestion just here that the committee, at its next meeting, should con-
sider whether the president, at least, should not only be eligible to
reelection for three successive years, but should be elected for that
term by a direct vote.
The Chairman : The Chair pauses to hear any other name suggested
for president.
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A delegate here nominated Mr. John Thorpe.
Mr. Thorpe : 1 am sorry to be obliged to decline the compliment —
not that the office is distasteful to me, but because its duties are so
arduous that I cannot possibly, in the future, give that attention to
them which they ought to have. For this reason alone I must posi-
tively decline the nomination. I tidnk that Mr. Craig is one of the
most energetic and efficient men whom you could pick out of your
body ; and I am pleased to say to you, gentlemen, that I am sure he
will make a most excellent president, and a much better one proba-
bly than I have been.
The Chairman: Gentlemen, you have heard the declination of your
president. I think that, unless there is objection, we will have to re-
ceive his declination.
Mr. Edwin Lonsdale, of Philadelphia : I nominate Mr. John Hen-
derson, of Flushing, New York.
Mr. John Henderson : I must decline the honor, for I feel that I
could not undertake to discharge, the duties of the place. You are
aware that I have been living a very active life for a number of years,
and I now wish to enjoy the fruits of my labor and to take a little
more leisure than I have yet l)een able to secure. For this reason I
must respectfully, but emphatically, decline the honor.
Mr. Thomas DeWitt, of Bristol, Pa.: I move that nominations for
president now close.
Adopted without dissent.
On motion, the Secretary was directed to cast a ballot, as indicative
of a unanimous vote for Robert Craig, of Philadelphia, for president
for the ensuing vear.
The secretary reported that the direction had been complied with,
and the chairman made proclamation of the fact.
The Chairman announced, as the next business, the election of a
vice president at large.
Mr. R. J. Halliday, of Baltimore, nominated J. C. Vaughan, of
Chicago.
Mr. J. M. Hicks, of Summit, N. J., nominated John N. May, of
Summit, N. J.
Mr. May : I thank the gentleman who has kindly nominated me.
but I respectfully decline the honor, for the reason that I can do more
good to the Society as a humble worker in the ranks, or as a " whip,"
if you like to call it that, than I could in any important office.
Mr. Peter Henderson, of Jersey City, N. J., nominated Mr. J. M.
Jordan, of St. Louis.
The Chairman, (Mr. Jordan:) J. M. Jordan most emphatically de-
SOCIETY OF AMEKICAN FLORISTS. i i
clines. I have tlie honor to speak for him ! You have already nom-
inated the right man, gentlemen, if I can speak for you.
On motion, the nominations here closed, and the Secretary, in ac-
cordance with a unanimous vote of the convention, cast a ballot for
J. C. Yaughan, of Chicago, for the office of vice president. Mr.
Yaughan was declared to have been elected.
The Chairman invited nominations for the office of secretary.
Mr. Henry A. Siebrecht, of Xew Rochelle, N. Y., nominated Mr.
Edwin Lonsdale, of Philadelphia.
Mr. E. G. Hill, (the Secretary:) I wish to second the nomination
just made. I know of no one with more aptitude for, or better quali-
fied to fill, this important position than Mr. Lonsdale. He has every
qualification necessary, and, not only that, but he is known for his
largeness of heart and soundness of judgment. I am sure jow will
appreciate his ability, and that he will fill the office better than it has
been filled in the past. I lieartily second the nomination.
On motion, the nominations closed.
On motion of Mr. James Hendrick, the Secretary was instructed, by
a unanimous vote, to deposit the ballot of the association for Mr.
Lonsdale, wlio was duly proclaimed to be the Secretary-elect. (Ap-
plause.)
The Chairman invited nominations for treasurer.
Mr. Charles F. Evans, of Philadelphia, nominated Mr. Myron A.
Hunt, of Chicago.
The nomination was greeted with applause, and, being the only one
made, was ratified bj^ a unanimous vote and a ballot deposited, as in
the case of the otlier officers.
The Chairman, (Mr. Jordan,) after announcing that the regular
business of the morning session had been concluded, stated that he
had been requested to occupy a portion of the brief interval preced-
ing the exhibition to be given by Mr. Le Moult, the New York fiorist.
He then went on to congratulate the convention, first, upon tlie glor-
ious good time it was having in Philadelphia, and, next, upon the
wonderful success which had attended the national organization of
the American Florists from its inception. Starting about two years
and a quarter ago, the idea of the organization being conceived in
Chicago, the Society was brought into life in the great city of Cincin-
nati, a city which, though not territorially as great as some, was emi-
nent for the excellence of the tastes of its people, as shown by their
appreciation of flowers and plants and their encouragement of the fine
arts, such as painting, sculx)ture, and music. It might now be said
that the organization of the Society had been christened in Philadel-
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phia and at the " city by the sea." A jollification at the birth and a
glorions christening having introdnced the Society to the notice of the
country, he thought the organization should now begin to show its
natural vigor and its capacity to accomplish results. He expected
that next year it would go to Cliicago, that city of uprightness, hon-
esty, and beauty, with all the enthusiasm and power of a young giant.
He desired to repeat to his Eastern friends the remark made on the
previous day by a gentleman from Chicago, when, for the first time,
his attention was called to the glorious Atlantic, with its mighty bil-
lows rolling into the shore. '' Yes, it is very fine," he observed, " but
you ought to see Lake Michigan !" The delegates had now seen the
Atlantic, but he (Mr. Jordan) wanted to say to them that they "ought
to see Lake Michigan."
Mr. Hunt expressed his appreciation of the compliment to Chicago
which he had heard, and assured the convention of fair treatment in
that city a year hence.
The Chairman (President Thorpe in the chair) announced the ar-
rival of the hour appointed for an exhibition by Mr. A. Le Moult, of
New York city, of his handiwork in making cut-flower designs. He
explained that this gentleman had kindly come from New York to
give the convention an illustration of wliat he could do in floral work
within a specified time.
Mr. A. Le Moult here came forward, and was introduced by the
Chair as a gentleman devoted to his profession and a prince among
floral artists. He stated that he would accompany his work of making
up floral designs in the most effective manner with suggestions for the
development of the best taste, and would show how quickly, with
plenty of flowers on hand, an order could be filled.
[Note by the Secretary. — The exhil)ition here began with the receipt
by Mr. Le Moult, through an imaginary telephone, of an order for an
entirely new and original table decoration, to be presented to the So-
ciety of American Florists, and to be ready for delivery at the expi-
ration of one hour and a half from the receipt of the order. With a
force of assistants on the stage and an abundance of fresh flowers,
supplied b}'- the Philadelphia florists, the work of preparing the de-
sign— a wheel of fortune — was instantly begun. Producing a wheel
made from plain lumber, the floral work was executed skillfully in
exactly one hour and twenty minutes. The design w^as three feet in
height, and was surmounted by a cornucopia, with wings on each
side of it. Pesting on a large base of ferns, smilax, and tropical
plants, was an anchor attached to the design by a chain, (indicating
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hope for the profession.) Later in the day, the "wheel of fortune ''
was presented to Mr. George W. Childs, of Philadelphia, at his country-
seat at '^ Wootton."]
Mr. Le Moult also exhibited a floral design of a lion, (full-size,)
which he said was intended to represent the retiring President, Mr.
Thorpe. He remarked : '' I had in mind the making of a floral por-
trait of Mr. Thorpe, but found I could not bring his features out cor-
rectly, and, as he is ' the lion of the hour,' this design may be taken
as a representation of him."
Seven additional designs were presented, these representing a full-
sized pony, the yacht Galatea^ the steamer Amerique, a train-man's
lantern, a scroll containing names of deceased members, viz : W. T.
Bennett, H. J. Sackersdorfl", and J. Y. Murkland, and a miniature
gondola, (much in demand for children's parties in New York.)
Mr. Le Moult made remarks, at different times, as follows : " That,
in executing an elaborate piece of work at short notice, it was most
essential for the florist to have confidence in the ability and fidelity
of his assistants ; that ordinarily he did not come in contact with the
flower-growers, as he dealt with the commission men ; that, as a rule,
the florists who had achieved success were those wlio had been edu-
cated in the profession and possessed a natural affinity for flowers."
At this point, the exhibition closed with a round of applause.
SECOND DAY— Afternoon.
WooTTON, Montgomery County, Pa.
Having accepted the invitation of Mr. George W. Childs, of Phila-
delphia, to visit him at his country-seat, the members of the Society.
many of Avhom were accompanied by their Avives or others of their
families, arrived here by rail to Bryn Mawr, and thence by teams or
on foot. After leisurely strolling througli the farmer's cottage, the
circular spring-house, the green-houses, and making a circuit of the
extensive grounds surrounding Mr. Childs' mansion, the visitors finally
sought shelter from the heat of the sun in the grove on the premises.
In this delightful place, the visitors iDartook of a collation and were
entertained with vocal music by the "Keystone Male Quartette."
Finally the notes of a cornet commanded attention, A\'hen the follow-
ing formalities took place :
Mr. Thomas Meehan, editor of the Gardeners^ Monthly^ Pliiladelphia,
mounting a rustic bench at the foot of an oak, welcomed the visitors
as follows :
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Ladies and Gentlemen of the Society of American Florists^ and of
the Florists' Cluh of Philadeljihia : I have had the honor placed upon
me by my friend, Mr. Cliilds, of tendering yon his sincere thanks ibr
3^onr presence here tliis afternoon, and his cordial welcome to these
grounds; I would say, if I did not feel that I was speaking in a
measure for him — and I am sure you would pardon me for saying it —
these beautiful grounds. It is his wish that you make yourselves here
entirely at home. He believes that his fellow-citizens have en-
deavored to make your stay as pleasant and comfortable to you as
possible, and that, when you return to your homes, you will take with
you pleasurable recollections of wliat you have seen and experienced
here ; and lie liopes that, in the distant future, when looking back
upon your visit to Phihidelphia, you will not forget the pleasant after-
noon you sjjent with him here on these grounds.
Ladies and gentlemen, it seems to have been a happy thought which
suggested to you to hold your meeting in Philadelphia on this the sec-
ond anniversary of the birth of your association; for it has been
found by experience that horticulture in connection with Philadelphia
auspices has always been a permanent success. Your meeting here,
therefore, may be considered as an augury of a long-continued career
of prosperity. You may remember that the first botanic garden in
the United States that was establislied b}'" an American, was estab-
lished in Philadelphia by John Bartram ; that the oldest horticultural
society in the United States is still in existence in this city; and that
(although, perhaps, in making this statement I may be charged with
a lack of modesty) the oldest existing horticultural journal in the
United States is i)ublished in this city ; so that I may feel safe in say-
ing that your having met in this " city of brotherly love " is a happy
augury of the permanent success of your organization.
I may further observe, in connection with that phrase " brotherly
love," that it does seem that the old adage that " two of a trade can-
not agree" is not correct so far as it applies to florists; for they have
alwaj^s, in a measure, had cause to realize that fraternal feeling and
brotherlj" love are intimately associated with the cultivation of
flowers. So far as Philadelphia itself is concerned, I am satisfied that
no small share of the pleasure which its citizens enjoy is derived from
the general and widespread love of flowers and gardening which pre-
vails everywhere about this city. It is eminentl}^ appropriate, there-
fore, that our citizens, who have found so much pleasure and relaxa-
tion in horticultural pursuits, should welcome the members of the So-
ciety of American Florists, who have done so much throughout the
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United States to foster a love for the art of gardening and the culture
of flowers. I can safely say, for the proprietor of these beautiful
grounds, that he, at least, has derived no inconsiderable comfort and
happiness from gardening and kindred pursuits ; and the grounds
which you see around you furnish abundant illustrations of his high
appreciation of the art which it is your good fortune to cherish and
promote. These magnificent grounds were, but a few years ago, woods
and cornfields ; but, by recourse to your art, and Avith the aid of brains
and money, the face of nature has been gradually improved until it
presents the beautiful garden which you behold to-day. We have
with us, this afternoon, the landscape gardener, Mr. Miller, by wJiom
Wootton was laid out, and, if time and opportunity permitted, he
would be glad, I have no doubt, to give you some description of the
way in which this labor and money were expended. I have merely
referred to this, however, to impress more forcibly upon you an idea
of the extent to which the proprietor of these grounds is indebted to
the art in the pursuit of which you are engaged.
As I have said, the sentiment of brotherly love is one that is indis-
solubl}'^ interwoven with the florist's art. I do not know of any trade
or professsion in which so much of good feeling exists . between the
members of it as that of the florists. It has not, however, if classical
history tells the truth, always been thus; and, while on that subject,
permit me to recall a fable which may be familiar to some of you. It
may have been a myth, but I refer to it because it Avill illustrate the
origin of this feeling of brotherly love which pervades all followers
of horticultural pursuits. Though descriptive of what is said to have
occurred two or three thousand years ago, the lesson which it incul-
cates is, nevertheless, just as fresh as it would be if tliat which is de-
scribed had occurred to-day. The story runs that the first person to
engage in putting up flowers was a young lady named Glyzera, the
daughter of a Grecian citizen. I suppose she was handsome — for all
ladies who put up flowers are accorded to be handsome ! She made
garlands and wreaths, and the Grecians saw how handsome was her
work, and competed with each other for the honor of placing on the
heads of their heroes in the Parthian games the garlands made by
Glyzera. Finally, there came along a young man from Byzantium
(now Constantinople) Avho thought that he could do anything that he
tried to do — no doubt a father of the modern Yankee ! — and, not having
the gallantry of a modern florist, he undertook to start business against
Glyzera. He succeeded in carrying on the business of making wreaths
to so great an extent that he got, at least, the poets' trade, who found
that the work put up by the new comer. Lychnis, was superior to the
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work put up by Glyzera. The result was that Glyzera became jealous.
This ought to cast doubt on the truth of the story ; I do not believe
that, for I do not think that the ladies who go into the business of ar-
ranging flowers do get jealous ! But that is the way the story goes.
We are told that Glyzera had a lover, (Satyrion,) to whom she intimated
that her competitor was a pretty bad sort of a fellow, and ought to be
put out of the way ; and her lover, taking the hint more seriously
than was intended, murdered the unsuspecting Lychnis. The poets,
so the story goes, felt very much annoyed that one who had succeeded
in business and had treated them well should be disposed of in such
a summary manner, and they appealed to Apollo to punish the lady
who had been the means of the young man's destruction. What did
the gods do '^ They turned Lychnis into a flower. The story goes that
the " florist's pink," a beautiful carnation, sprang up from his blood
right on the place where the young man fell. Glyzera was to be pun-
ished by being compelled to use the carnation in hor garlands. The
carnation, with its fragrance and its sweetness, became a competitor
of the rose, and forever afterwards Glyzera was doomed to learn to
love, through this flower, the one she had despised — to learn the lesson
of brotherly love — by taking her former competitor as one of the es-
sential ingredients in forming her garlands of flowers. So that, it
seems to me, the reason why fraternal feeling is always noticeable
among florists may be from the will of the gods, wlio would not coun-
tenance ill-will. But this is not the time to go into reasons as to wliy
we are so friendly together ; the fact is enough. The reference to
brotherly love caused me to think of the old story. I have now only
to repeat, on behalf of the owner of these grounds, that I hope, in the
future, when you come to think of the pleasures you have had in your
intercourse with the citizens of Philadelphia, and in connection with
Philadelphia gardening, not the least among the bright spots in the
retrospect of pleasure will be your visit to these beautiful grounds
to -da}'".
Mr. James Hendrick, of Albany, New York, responded on behall
of the guests. He said :
Mr. Childs : I appear before you, sir, to thank you from the bottom
of my heart for the kindness with which you have received us this
day, and to assure you of our sincere appreciation of your hospitality
in inviting us to be present on these grounds.
It was the royal prophet of a peculiar people who cried out with his
prophetic voice and repeated in ecstasies of joy, ^ Unto us a child is
born — unto us a son is given." May I not, without irreverence, on
behalf of the American Florists, exclaim to-day, " Unto us a Child
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is born," and his name is George William? Am I not right in think-
ing that this "Child" has so grown that his name and his fame have
become household words, not only in Bryn Mawr and in Philadelphia,
but in all the United States ? Am I not right in saying that wherever
poverty was present he never closed his hand ? Am I not right in
declaring that when victor}^ perched upon the banners of the great
captain of our armies, there was no man in the United States so near
to him as was George W. Childs? [Three rounds of cheers for Mr.
Childs were here given witli great cordiality.] Am I not right in as-
serting that when a gloomj^ cloud appeared upon the horizon of that
great captain's life and he seemed appalled under the load imposed
upon him, and when false friends sought to pull him down, George
W. Ohilds assured him, "I am here at your back?" [Applause.]
Then, gentlemen, if I am right in my thoughts and utterances, it fol-
lows that you are to-day associated with a man whose personal record
is as honorable as that of any man whom I can name. [" Our next
President " and long-continued cheers.]
AVhether he be President or not, he lives in the esteem of every
patriot, he lives in the affection of every good-minded man in the
community. [Applause.]
Let me say to you, Mr. Childs, that you have done well in extend-
ing your invitation to the American florists. We belong, sir, to a very
ancient tribe. My good friend tliere (Mr. Meelian) spoke about the
woman who made the first garland. Does he not know that the only
business on this earth which is of Divine origin is that which God
created wlien He commissioned man to superintend the garden which
He Himself had planted? Does he not remember that we, as earth's
artists, had been commissioned by God for His own work, and that
we were not to beautify the lily, nor to paint the rose, nor to tint na-
ture with unnatural crimson, but that, having given us brains, He
works through us and makes this garden of ours like a paradise?
My friends, if I am right in the few remarks I have made, we are
entitled to feel that this gentleman, in the hospitality he has extended
to us, has by his association with us made us better men. In going
hence from Wootton, this place at one time a corn-field, but now so
beautified by art that it presents a scene of beauty which, in my judg-
ment, is unequaled, let us go from it pledging ourselves and i)ledging
each other that we shall be better men and better women and better
citizens, and have a more friendly regard for our entire race. Gentle-
men, on your behalf I have said these few words. Here is the man
(indicating Mr. Childs) to whom your thanks are due. His spokesman
has spoken well. Let us wish that our host, when his work is done, when
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the earth is vanishing from his sight, when he is called up before that
great, high throne, the welcome will be given him, " Here is the Child
who has been a source of great comfort and blessing to many a man."
[The speaker here retired amid a chorus of cheers, which seemed to
rustle the leaves of the trees overhead.]
Mr. Meehan here announced : Ladies and Qentlemen: Mr. Childs,
overwhelmed hj the cordiality oi" your greeting, desires me to say
that he will be pleased to shake hands with you, if you will pass by
him in this direction. I hoi)e you will accord him I hat gratification.
A RECEPTION.
At this point, the visitors filed along the pathway, and each in turn
grasped the extended hand of Mr. Childs, being introduced by the
Secretary of the Society, Mr. E. G. Hill, of Indiana, and Mr. William
F. Dreer, of the reception committee of the Philadelphia Florists'
Club. The hand-shaking and reception formalities continued for
thirty minutes ; after which, when Mr. Childs and a portion of the
guests had retired, impromptu remarks were made by Col. Fitzgerald
and John W. Frazier, Esq., of Philadelphia, who concurred in sug-
gesting the propriety of naming a new flower in honor of the host,
the •' George AV. Childs."
The hour was uoavso late that the formal speaking here terminated.
On their way to the exits fi'om the grounds, the visitors paused on the
terrace in front of the mansion of Mr. Childs, and were photographed
in a group. With expressions of good-will and rounds of hearty cheers
for their generous host, the assemblage, after having spent a most en-
joyable afternoon, made its way to the waiting trains and returned to
the city.
SECOND DAY— Evening.
Horticultural Hall, Philadelphia,
Friday, August 20, 1886.
The convention re-assembled at a quarter to nine, p. 3i., when a re-
cess of fifteen minutes was taken to permit members to examine ex-
hibits in the lower hall. ~
The session was resumed at nine o'clock, p. m.. President Craig in
the chair.
The President announced as the first business the presentation of
a report on hail insurance by Mr. J. H. Taylor, of Bayside, New York,
the secretary of the committee on that subject.
Mr. J. H. Taylor came forward and read the report prepared b}^ him.
«It was received Avith much interest. It is as follows :
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Ladies and Gentlemen: The following work has been accomplished by your
committee during the year:
Immediately after the adjournment of the Society meeting at Dayton, a meet-
ing of the Committee on Hail was held, and Mr. John Js . May was elected chair-
man. It was then decided by your committee to see what rates, if any, could
be had from the already existing insurancecompanies, and, failing in this, to sub-
mit to you some plan for mutual protection. Your committee proceeded at
once to place the matter before the insurance companies. Presidents and agents
were interviewed, and in New York it was placed before the board of under-
writers.
We were informed that nothing could be done in the matter, unless exact data
were furnished, that they miglit judge whetlier it would pay them or not to
touch it.
As it would involve a large expenditure of money to issue circulars to all own-
ers of glass in this country, tlie matter was submitted to the Executive Committee
of the Society, at Pliiladelphia, in November. It was tliere decided by the Ex-
ecutive Committee tliat the Society would not be warranted, at tlie i)resent stage,
to spend the amount of money required for that purpose. Mr. Vaughan, how-
ever, generously offered tiie medium of his paper, calling on all those interested
to notify us as to what they would do in the matter. We thus hoped to get the
desired information, but the result obtained was very discouraging. It is as
follows :
Total number of replies received, 26
Total number wanting insurance, 25
Total number replying in negative, 1
Total number of square feet given, 46,330
Total amount of insurance wanted, $9,580
Only tln-ee did not give tlie amount they wished to insure for, and four did not
mention the number of square feet they owned.
This, of course, is a very incomplete report, and it would be impossible to base
any calculations on it. The best result so far obtained in giving us some idea of
the matter was in Cincinnati, on the train to Dayton, by Mr. F. R. Pierson, of
Tarry town, N. Y., who went through the train submitting the following ques-
tion :
" That if a satisfactory arrangement could be made with an insurance com-
pany already established, would you insure V"
He received tifty-two replies, which were as follows:
Answered in the affirmative, 36
Answered in the negative, 16
Total number of square feet in the affirmative, 675,200
Total number of square feet in the negative, 521,000
Difference in favor of insurance, 154,200
This shows that most of the large establishments are willing to take their own
risk, and that the smaller favor insurance against hail. Our chairman has called
four genei'al meetings, besides personal work having been done by all the mem-
bers of the committee.
The results obtained would tend to show that a mutual association might be
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successfully formed, and secondly, that nothing can be done at present with the
insurance companies already established.
We, tiierefore, not having been able to accomplish anything with insurance
men, submit to you a plan for a mutual protective association.
The Chairman: You have heard the report of the Secretary. If
there is no objection, it will be filed as received, and entered on the
minutes.
• An additional report from the chairman of the committee, Mr. May,
will now l)e submitted by that gentleman.
Mr. John N. May, of Summit, N. J., upon coming forward, said:
Ladies and Gentlemeu : I hold in mj^ liand a statement of a plan of
hail insurance which, I think, as far as I have been able to study it, is
about the most feasible that I have been able to get at — assuming that it
will contain some few alterations and corrections which have occurred
to me. It is the plan of Mr. John G. Esler, of Saddle River, N. J. I
will read it just as I received it from him, and then afterwards read
the additions and alterations which I suggest.
Mr. May here read two papers, the first of which was the plan sub-
mitted by Mr. Esler. Tiie other, under the head of " Hail Insurance,''
contained the alterations, etc., of Mr. Esler's plan which were suggested
by Mr. May.
(Note. — Attached to the papers were communications from Mr.
Lothrop White, from The American Architect and Building News.,
from a report by the Fargo Insurance Company, of Fargo, Dakota.)
The papers as submitted are as follows :
MR. JOHN G. KSLER'S PLAN.
Saddle River, N. J., August.. 1S8G.
Mr. J. N. May,
Sir: In reply to yours, I respectfully submit to the Hail Committee of the So-
ciety of American Florists the following plan of mutual hail insurance :
Kesolved, That a mutual hail insurance comi)any be organized, to be known
as the Florists' National Hail Insurance Company. The offict^rs of such
company to be a president, vice ]nesident, secretary, and treasure; also a board
of directors of not less than five, to be chosen each year by general election.
Duties of Officers. — The president shall preside over all meetings of the com-
pany, or its officers, and he shall inspect the yearly accounts of the secretary
and treasurer.
The vice president shall perform the duties of the president in his absence.
The secretary shall record tlie name of each member in a book provided for the
purpose, together with the number of square feet of glass insured by each, and
the amount paid the treasurer for sucii insurance, and also in case of loss,
he shall record the number of square feet of glass broken, and the amount of
loss paid, togetlier with the date of the payment of the claim, and, if correct, he
shall countersign properly filed claims for loss, before mailing them to the treas-
urer, and he shall have power to investigate concerning any proof of loss which
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he may suspect to be fraudulent, at the expense of the company. The secretary
shall also notify each member when an assessment is levied, and at the annual
meetinf? lie shall report to the president tlie number of members in the company,
the number of square feet of glass insured, tlie amount received by the treasurer
for such insurance, tlie number of losses by hail, the quantity of glasS destroyed,
and the amount paid for sucli losses. He siiall also furnish blanks for the proof
of loss, and all other blanks that may be necessary to prosecute the business of
the company. Tiie secretary shall file all applications for membership in his
office.
Tiie treasurer shall have charge of the funds of the company, and shall ac-
knowledge the receipt of money forwarded by members, and shall report to the
secretary tlie name of each member, the number of feet of glass insured by each,
and the amount of money received from each member ; and he shall pay from the
funds in his hands such losses as shall be properly proved and filed with tiie sec-
retary, after such proof has been countersigned and recorded by that official.
Tlie proof of loss shall be filed by the treasurer as a record. He shall also render
an annual report to the president and board of directors, at the yearly meeting of
the company. He shall also notify the secretary when an assessment is neces-
sary, and shall pay to the secretary every three months tlie dues which he has
collected for that official.
Meetings.— T\ie ofticers of the company shall hold a yearly meeting at the same
time and place as the meeting of the Society of American Florists, at which meet-
ing the secretary and treasurer shall render their annual reports to the president.
The officers of the company, at their yearly meeting, shall have power to pro-
pose changes of the by-laws, to be reported to the annual meeting of the mem-
bers of the comiiany, which meeting shall be held at the same time and place as
the meeting of the Society of American Florists.
Atembership. — Application for a membership shall be accompanied by a dia-
gram showing the length and width of houses, and giving length of sash in each
house, and specifying the number of square feet of glass to be insured. Any
person paying tiie sum of one dollar ($1.00) may become a member of the Florists'
National Hail Insurance Company, together with twenty-five (25) cents as a fee
to the secretary for recording his name and filing application ; but to receive
benefit for loss by hail, each member shall pay one dollar ($1.00) for every one
thousand (1,000) square feet of glass, or fraction thereof, in his green-houses, (ori
if this is thought too high a rate, being the rate of two per cent, per year, I pro-
pose a rate of one per cent, per year for actual value insured,) and for every
square foot of glass broken by hail, he shall receive the sum of five cents ; or, if
double-thick glass, at the rate which he is insured for; and to retain mem-
bership shall pay whatever assessment is requisite pro rata with all otlier policy-
holders, to keep the reserve fund at one thousand dollars ($1,000) in the treas-
urer's hands.
Proof of Loss. — Within ten days after a loss by hail, the secretary must be noti-
fied of such loss, and claim for damages must be filed with that officer within
thirty days after such loss. The proof of loss shall be by his own affidavit, and
that of two disinterested persons not in the employ of the loser, to be sworn to
before a notary public or a justice of the peace, and if taken by the latter officer,
then the certificate of the county clerk of the county in which he resides shall
be appended.
No damages shall be paid for glass destroyed by elements other than hail.
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The treasurer shall pay all claims for loss within ten days after tlie secretary
shall send liim a properly filed claim of damages, countersigned as being correct.
Asf<essnie)its. — Whenever tlie sum in the hands of the treasurer sliall have been
reduced by payment of losses to the sum of one th<uisand dollars, ($1,000) he shall
notify tlie secretary, and tiiat official shall levy an assessment of one dollar ($1.00)
per thousand square feet of glass, or fraction thereof, upon each member of the
company.
Any i)erson who shall fall to pay his assessment within the space of ninety
days after notice thereof has been mailed by the secretary, shall lose his mem-
bership in the company, and receive no furtiier benefits therefrom.
I'eriu of Officers.— OfficevH shall be elected for tliree years, and shall be elected
at the annual meeting of the company when their term of office expires.
Salari's of Officers.— The president and vice president shall receive three dol-
lars ($3.00) per day for each day's service in the employ of the company.
The secretary shall receive the sum of twenty-five (25) cents for tlie recording
of each member's name and application, and twenty-five (25) cents for recording
each proof of loss ; also twentj'-five cents for making record of the payment of
each assessment.
The treasurer sliall receive the sum of thirty dollars ($30.'!0) yearly, in lieu of
expeiises for i)ostage, and shall be entitled to tlie use of the money in his hands,
subject to call whenever loss is properly proved.
Bonds.— The treasurer, upon taking office, shall place in the hands of the pres-
ident a bond for five thousand dollars, ($5,000) signed by at least two responsible
sureties besides himself, and properly executed before a notary public or a justice
of the peace.
Exjicnses. — Necessary expenses, such as printing of blanks, etc., shall be paid
from the funds in the hands of the treasurer ; but postage shall be paid by the
officers themselves, and not allowed from funds in the hands of the treasurer.
Miscellaneous. — The annual report of the secretary and treasurer shall be pub-
lished in tlie American Florist within sixty days after being rendered.
The reserve fund in the iiands of the treasurer shall be limited tO one thousand
dollars ($1,000).
The above is offered by Mr. John G. Esler for the consideration of this cora-
mittee, and, in the main, I think is practical, but I offer for consideration the
following :
That in consideration of the great difference in the value of one man's glass
over another, i. e., one man may have double-thick French glass, which cost him
seven or eight cents per foot, and another man have only single-thick American,
costing about half that price; and whereas such single-thick glass is so much
more likely to breakage from hail than double-thick, I consider that a higher
rate of insurance of one third or one half of one per cent, be charged for insur-
ing single-thick glass than for double-thick, or possibly it may be found requisite
to charge double rate ; and whereas single-thick glass costs about four and a half
to five cents a foot, parties wishing to insure, and having only single-thick glass
to insure, shall, on making application for insurance, distinctly state the size and
thickness of such glass they wisli to insure, and shall be charged the prorata
advance for insuring such as may be single-thick only.
As an example, suppose a man having twenty thousand feet of glass, all double-
thick, which cost him seven cents per foot. If, on careful consideration, it is
found necessary to charge that man at the rate of one per cent, per year for in-
surance, such insurance would cost him fourteen dollars per year.
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Now, another man having twenty thousand feet of glass, all single-thick,
which cost him not over five cents per foot, if charged at tlie same rate of one
per cent, per year, would only have to pay ten dollars per year for insurance, and,
at the same time, would be much more likely to suffer from hail than tlie man
having double-thick glass, wliich appears to be wholly unjust to the man liaving
double-thick glass. To regulate this difference, some extra charge should be made
to the man having single-thick] glass, which, if he be charged one and one third
of one per cent, on twenty tiidusand feet of single-tliick glass, would make his
insurance tliirteen dollars and thirty-three cents per year ; or if at one and one
half per cent., it would be fifteen dollars per year.
In Mr. Esler's plan just read, he proposed a fee or assessment of one dollar for
every one thousand square feet of glass or fraction thereof. This appears to me
to be too high a rate, being at the rate of two per cent, per annum. And,
furthermore, I think that only actual amount of glass should be paid for. A
man having two thousand one Iiundred feet should not be charged for three thou-
sand feet, but only for two thousand one hundred insurance, or, if at tlie rate
of one per cent., he siiould pay two dollars and ten cents actual insurance.
If the one per cent, here recommended on actual trial is not found sufficient
to cover all claims for the year, an assessment on all insured in the company at
pro rata sufficient to cover all losses could be made, such assessment to be not
more than ten per cent, above the actual amount required to settle all claims
and provide for a reserve fund of one thousand dollars ($1,000).
COMMUNICATIONS RECEIVED.
Farmingham, Mass., Aug. 6, 1SS6.
Mr. J. N. May,
Dear Sir: I inclose cojiyof an article from the Architect and Builder, wiiich I
think will interest you and the convention at Piiiladdlphia. I sent a copy to the
American Florist^ but the editor did not print it, finding it, perhaps, a little too
interesting for his side of the question. A fatal objection to tlie proposed hail
insurance association is that its members are called upon to take risks without
its members being paid for doing so; wiiich is not business, but charity. In fire in-
surance, those wlio do the insuring are paid for doing it, and in mutual compa-
nies that payment takes the form of reduced premiums. In order to justify the
existenceof a mutual liail insurance company, it would be necessary to guarantee
a rebate to all insuring, wliich would reduce their premiums below tlie amount
they would ])ay to an outside company, which is manifestly impossible. On the
contrary, if the exiierience of the past is of any value, instead of reduced pre-
miums tiiere would be heavy assessments.
You will observe in the inclosed article that the very thing occurred to which you
allude in the second point of your article in the Florist, a point which the editor
seems to have misunderstood. There can be no analogy between hail insurance
and fire insurance ; in the latter, insurance is universal, and the great majority of
insurers never have lost and never will lose ; in the former case, there are large
districts whicli hail seldom visits, and then but lightly, and from those districts
but few premiums will come. Most of the insuring will be done by men who
have already lost and are likely to lose again, and every one of whom expects,
sooner or later, to draw out more money than he pays in.
.Such an association is bankrupt in principal before it begins work, and will be
bankrupt in fact soon after. If thorougidy organized and equipped insurance
companies, with an agent located in nearly every town in the country, cannot
afford to insure us, it is certain that we cannot afford to insure ourselves. If
hail fell as regularly as fire occurred, and with the same even distribution, insur-
ance would be a simple matter, and there would be plenty of companies now in
successful o])eration ; but, as it is, hail insurance is as impossible as fire insur-
ance would be if sucli calamities as the Boston and Chicago fires were sure to
visit us at frequent intervals.
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It seems to me that the only way to deal with tlie question is to form a mutual
aid society, modeled upon those great cliarities which play sucli a useful part
among the" various guilds. All contributions to be funded and interest only ap-
plied to the relief of sufferers. In course of time, this fund would become large,
and might accomplish much good in various directions. I hoped to go to Pliila-
delphia and take part in the discussion of this question, but can't go, so 1 ven-
ture to send yon my opinion, whicli would be of no value alone, but is supported
by nearly all the florists in my neighborhood.
Very truly yours, , Loturop Wight.
From the American Architect and Building News, of May SD, 1SS6.
A good deal is said just now about insurance against hail, and, not withstand-
ing the misfortunes of the older hail insurance comi)anies, the florists of the
country, wlio have a very serious interest in tiie matter, are at the moment en-
gaged in trying to form new ones. Fortunately, perhai)s, foi" the florists wlio are
tempted to enter into mutual obligations of the kind, tiie Specialor lias collected
some statistics of tlie iiistory of the liail insurance companies now existing here.
Four of these are incorporated in Pennsjlvania,and doa considerablebusinessin
insuring growing tobacco against loss or injury by hailstones. After from three
to six years' experience, tiie directors of tiie Pennsylvania companies have con-
cluded that tiiey are doing a losing business. The premiums cliarged were high,
the comi)anies demanding one and one third per cent, in casli and a note for six
per cent, on tlie amount insured, but even tliese resources were far too small to
pay the losses of the last year, in the course of wliicli forty ])er cent, of tlie]iolicy
holders claimed indemnity to a greater or less amount. The coUecticni of the
six per cent, premium note, as migiit be expected, excited the indignation, if not
the iiositive resistance, of nearly all the policy-holders; while, as tlie whole
amount so collected did not pay one half tlie losses, the policy-holders who lost
property grumbled still more than those who escaped. Tlie net result seems to
have been dissatisfaction, repining, and broken contracts all around. Two out of
four companies in existence last year have already retired from the business, a
third is in process of winding up its affairs, and the managers of the remaining
one are deliberating wiietlier tiiey iiad not better follow the example of their fel-
lows. The fact seems to be that the business of any hail insui-ance company,
particularly a mutual one, is usually conflned to so small a territory that every
storm afflicting a jiortion of its territory is likely to cover tlie whole, and forty per
cent, losses are quite as liable to occur as smaller ones. The remedy for this would
be to extend operations over a wide field, and equalize the losses in that way, and
if to tliis could be joined regulations analogous to tliose of tiie factory mutual
fire insurance conqianies, requiring, for example, that members should use noth-
ing but double-tliick glass in their greenhouses, a florists' hail insurance com-
pany, at least at such premium rates as those adopted in Pennsylvania, might
perhajjs be made to pay expenses.
Extract from Fargo Insurance Company, of Fargo, Dakota.
" With many other companies, we last year did some hail insurance in Dakota.
Unlike most of the other comi)aiiies, we have settled and paid most of our hail
losses and abandoned hail insurance entirely. In the hail department, we took
in sixty thousand dollars in premium notes, and there liave been adjusted and
paid by the comi)any claims for hail losses amounting to more than tifty thou-
sand dollars. We have now only seven thousand five hundred dollars of unad-
justed liail claims, and have still on hand about nine thousand dollars in hail
premium notes, secured by chattel mortgages. AVe expect to adjust and pay all
remaining hail claims by mutual agreement, and witliout recourse to the courts,
although some of the companies, like the Continental Fire of New York, have
thought that they could secure fairer adjustments by letting claimants sue, and
having the courts fix the amount of hail losses, which are certainly very difficult
claims to adjust fairly. Thus far the company has adjusted all liail losses witli-
out the aid of the courts, and we trust that no law-suit will ever be necessary."
Mr. May : I am reminded of your inquiries in regard to hail, on reading the
above, and so send it.
Truly yours,
Racine, Wis. S. Whiteley.
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In estimating careful]}^ the amount of glass in my own immediate neighbor-
liood in use for commercial purposes, I find that there is about two hundred and
ninety thousand feet witliin a distance of ten miles. Of this amount, there is
certainly not more than forty thousand feet that could be depended upon to take
policies at a rate of three-fourtiis of one per cent, per year. Tliis is for my own
immediate section ; what other sections will do I do not know, but from all I can
glean, the feeling is pretty generally against mutual hail insurance.
But, notwithstanding this, if a plan of insurance can be settled upon at this
meeting and a joint stock company formed, I am ready to join it by insuring the
whole of my glass, (about thirty thousand feet,) and will do all I can to get others
to join also.
The proof of the ])aste is in eating, and it seems to me that the proof of the
practical working of this hail insurance business can only be tested by actual ex-
perience. I, therefore, advocate a careful consideration of the plans given above
and its adoption in some shape or otlier. If it is a success, some deserving
brotiier of the craft will certainly be benefited by it, and if it should prove a fail-
ure, we shall have tlie satisfaction of knowing that we tried our best, which is
all that we can be expected to do.
The President : Tlie convention lias lieard the report of the chair-
man of the Hail Insurance Committee. What action does it take
thereon ?
( No response.)
If there is no objection, the report will be filed, and we will now
hear a statement in the nature of a report from another member of the
committee, Mr. Pierson.
Mr. F. R. Pierson, of Tarrytown, New York, (of the committee,) here
responded to the call of the Chair as follows :
As a member of the committee, I have given the subject consider-
able thought from the stand-point of a practical business man, and
have found it to be one so comijlicated and so far removed from the
line of our legitimate business as florists, that I was not surprised
upon learning that a wide difference of opinion existed, both as to the
advisability of creating an organization such as the one proposed, and
as to the form which such an organization, if created, should assume.
Personally, I am opposed to a purely assessment plan, because I fore-
see difficulties inherent in the very nature of such a plan, particularly
with reference to the responsibility of the company or the readiness
with which claims against it may be liquidated, as in cases of heavy
losses, possibly no guarantee fund would be at hand to insure im-
mediate payments.
Then there is a question whether, upon any such wild-cat basis, we
could operate, with any degree of uniformity or harmony, throughout
the country, in view" of the special requirements and restrictions pecu-
liar to the laws of individual States, as our organization would neces-
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sarily be subject to the regulations of tlie Insurance Department of the
State in which its business is conducted.
The project presents itself in so many different and complex forms
that I think it would be advisable to get at the sense of this meeting,
as to whether we should entertain the subject at this time. If the
response is favorable to it, the details of the scheme could then be con-
sidered, item by item, action being first taken as to whether the organ-
ization is to he purely that of an assessment company, or an organ-
ization providing for the payment of a premium covering, as nearly as
possible the payment of a sum more than sufficient to pay all loss aris-
ing from hail damage for an entire year.
The plan proposed by Mr. Esler is in very crude sliape. Under it
we w^oukl practically issue what, in fire insurance parlance, would be
termed " a valued policy," which is one providing for the payment of
a stipulated sum. It would be inequitable for this reason : tliat an
owner of a green -house who had been insured would receive a stated
sum, whether his glass was worth five cents per foot or not. To an
owner who luid been insured for single-thick glass, that would be a
blessing rather than anything else. The guarantee should be less,
rather than more.
I suggest, as an additional consideration, that an organization such as
proposed would devolve upon us an excessive amount of work and ex-
traordinary responsibility. With our lack of experience and the
limited facilities at our command, I doubt our capacity to make the
undertaking a success, though I do not question the desirableness of
it under more favorable auspices. And unless we can have at the
outset a reasonable assurance of success it would be better for us not
to enter into it.
There is one other feature of the matter, and I allude to it for the
two-fold pui'i^ose of adding force to my suggestion, that an expression
of opinion by the Society at this time is desirable, and of removing
any misapprehension as to my motive in making that suggestion. The
statement that the florists of this country desire to have an association
such as the one here contemplated, has been reiterated from many
quarters, and with special emphasis by Western men. I am an
Eastern man, and do not want to appear as antagonizing that senti-
ment if it in fact exists. I want, however, to mention one fact which
would seem to disprove the assumption that the interest on the subject
has assumed wide-spread iDroportions among the florists of America.
I refer to the sending out of circulars — one of which was sent to every
member, I believe — asking that the committee be informed in each in-
stance as to the amount of glass surface exposed, and the amount of
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the loss sustained in the breakage of glass by hail. The report of the
secretary of the committee, Mr. Taylor, states that the data obtained
in that way is very meagre. In the preceding year, we tried to secure
the same information by personal appeals, and we would again have
had recourse to that means of solicitation if it had been thought that
the expense attending the previous effort was warranted by the mea-
gre results then obtained.
I ask whether this showing can be construed to indicate a very
earnest desire on the part of the florists of the United States for the
establishment of a plan of hail insurance. The more reasonable in-
ference is that there is a deplorable lack of interest in the subject.
Talk is cheap ! The cost to any one of the gentlemen to whom we
applied would not have been more than two cents for furnishing us
with the required information, and yet they failed to make any re-
sponse. At the same time, the data was indispensable if we were to
make any progress. An insurance man, with whom I conversed, ridi-
culed our going into the thing without data as " a wild-cat operation."
I know of no men of business ability who would go into a scheme of
the cliaracter of this one with no guarantee in regard to what it is
going to cost them. Tlie plan of paying a premium, which really is
the plan of a valued policy, would, in my judgment, run us into debt
and bankruptcy in less than six months.
Mr. John G. Esler, of Saddle River, N. J., (yielding to the solicita-
tion of friends around hiin, who urged their desire to hear him in de-
fense of his plan,) said :
I agree with the gentleman from Tarry town. New York, (Mr. Pier-
son,) that the time is not yet ripe for hail insurance. I do not think
the florists have taken sufficient interest in it to warrant the forma-
tion of a company at the present time ; but I do believe — speaking
from the stand-point of one who has had some practical dealings in
insurance — that the plan submitted by me is one that will work, and
that that fact would be demonstrated if the florists had confidence
enough in it to test the plan. I doubt whether they have that confi-
dence.
The single suggestion which I rose to make was this : that it should
be borne in mind that hail insurance commends itself, not to all florists
indiscriminately, but only to those who want it. Owners of double-
thick French glass, supposed to be capable of withstanding the pelting
of hail-stones, do not want to insure against hail ; and it is useless to
create a system which is dependent for its success upon such owners
coming into it.
Mr. Charles Anderson, of Flushing, N. Y., moved that, by way of
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ascertaining the sense of the Society upon the report of the committee,
a vote be now taken upon the question, Shall the present discussion
continue ?
A delegate suggested that Mr. Anderson's motion was superfluous,
as, according to ordinary parliamentary usage, the pending question
was upon the acceptance of the report, and the vote thereon would
necessarily involve an expression of the sense of the Society upon the
subject of hail insurance.
Mr. Anderson's motion was subsequently withdrawn.
The President, (Mr. Craig,) commenting upon tlie difficulty in the
way of a direct expression by the Society upon the question, explained
that, owing to the complicated nature of the subject, the Hail Com-
mittee had been unable to unite in recommending any specific plan
of insurance. The communications from the committee wliich had
been read were, therefore, not committee reports, but simply expres-
sions by members of the committee of the views entertained by them
individually.
Mr. D. R. Woods, of New Brighton, Pa., submitted a motion as
follows : " That, in the judgment of the delegates present, it is unwise
for the Society, at this time, to adopt any plan of hail insurance."
He explained that a direct expression by the Society, affirming or nega-
tiving the proposition, was desirable by way of economizing time and
in the interest of a regular and orderly method of procedure. If a
majority of those present favored insurance, as he believed they did,
the consideration of the details of a plan could then be proceeded with.
Mr. J. C. Vaughan, of Chicago : I had not intended to say a single
word on this subject, but. having been a member of the former, as I
am also of the present. Committee on Hail Insurance, I feel called
upon to reph'" to the criticism of the gentleman from New York, (Mr.
Pierson,) upon the failure of the committee te secure sufficient re-
ports in response to their solicitations for information. The subject
of hail insurance, when first presented to the Society, was committed
to the vice presidents from the various States. Circulars soliciting
data upon the topics mentioned therein were sent out by the latter to
a large number of florists — in fact, to florists in nearly every State.
This work involved a considerable expenditure of time, labor, and
money, and, so far as I have knowledge, was carefully performed, ex-
cept in one case. Having helped to compile the returns which were
received, I am consequentlj^ in a position to know whereof I speak.
Responses were received from two hundred and fifty-six florists, who
were mainly people who had suffered from losses by hail. From those
who had not met with loss no reports were received, as the under-
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95
standing among the florists appears to have been that in such cases
they were not expected to make report. These returns, showing a
total of several million feet of glass, were handed to the former com-
mittee— I believe they were given to the Secretary, Mr. Taylor.
Mr. Taylor : Yes, sir ; there was quite a large number of them.
Mr. Vaughan : The one exception in which a report was not re-
ceived was that of the State of New York, and the cause of this was
that the vice president from that State did not turn a pen in the way
of attending to his duty in that matter.
Mr. Pierson: I "acknowledge the corn!" [Merriment.]
Mr. Vaughan : Those of you who were present at Cincinnati, last
year, will remember with what persistence I then urged the claims of
this subject upon your attention. I then said what I did because I
appreciated the fact that some of my customers were illy able to bear
the losses to which they had been subjected by hail-storms, and be-
cause it was thought by many desirable to adopt some plan for mu-
tual protection. I was forced to take a positive position on the ques-
tion, because a number of friends and acquaintances came to me in
the Grand Hotel, in Cincinnati, and declared : " We have come a long
distance to discuss the plan of mutual protection against losses by
hail, and if you do not take hold of this matter we will not come
again." Having the interest of this Society at heart, as I still have,
I resolved to stand in the breach in behalf of those people, and I can
truthfully say that I have faithfully stood there.
Now, after these reports had been carefully gathered from all the
States— excepting, as I have said, the State of New York— tlie present
committee found themselves confronted with this condition of affairs,
viz : that while the sufferers from hail had responded, stating their
actual losses and the amount of glass exposed by them during the
period specified, no reports whatever had been received from a large
number of owners who had suffered no loss, and who, for this reason,
supposed that no report from them was expected. The fact was that
the committee needed to have a report from every owner, so that the
specific amount of glass owned by each during the year might be
shown, as also the fact — if it was a fact — that during the time for wliich
the glass was exposed no loss had occurred. To that extent, there-
fore, these reports were defective. It is sought to remedy this defect
by appeals to these parties through the columns of The American
Florist. It has been said that, in many issues of the Florist., appeals
were made for reports, but that few answers were obtained. The fact
was that these people had already been furnished with the proper
blanks and envelopes to enable them to report, and had reported, and,
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their reports being on file with the committee, they could not under-
stand why they should be called upon to make new ones. In some
instances, those who were applied to for this information had gone
back, in examining their books and compiling data, for a period of
twenty years. I would appeal to the gentleman from Cliicago (Mr.
Hunt) for a corroboration of my assertion.
Mr. HuxT : I have understood the fact to be as the gentleman states
it.
Mr. Vaughax : The florists who had prepared and forwarded reports
to the committee, to the number of two hundred and fifty-six, might,
therefore, with entire propriety, ask why they should do the same
work over again. This is all that I wanted to say. My purpose was
to make more apparent the fact that the subject of hail insurance is
one that is not without interest to the florists of America.
Mr. Joiix Thorpe : Possibly what I said in my opening address about
the first branch being stunted would be applicable here. It seems to
me to-night that there is no chance for progress in this matter. I re-
gret much that we have not had a plan presented in such a form that
the delegates could accept or reject it. This going over details, such
as so much per foot or so much per year or so much per month, seems
to me to be of no use. AVe should liave a plan. If we cannot bring
a plan to bear, let us reject the wliole proposition.
I believe that the third paragrapli in our constitution or our plat-
form provides that we should, if possible, present a form of insurance
against loss by hail and fire ; and I must acknowledge, gentlemen,
before you all, that if that paragraph had not been embodied, the So-
ciety of American Florists would not be in existence to-day. If hail
insurance is an impossibility, let us show tlie fact in black and white.
If it is possible to carry it out, let us have a plan formed, showing that
there are so many thousand feet of glass to be insured at so much
money, and there's an end to it. Let us have a plan drawn up which
we can accept or reject. Let us give the figures and the data, and if
we cannot undertake it, let us drop the subject altogether.
Mr. J. H. Taylor : It may be inferred from the remarks which have
been made that the failure to report some tangible basis for action is
the fault of the present committee, and I, therefore, desire to show
that any such inference is erroneous. Your committee was appointed
last year, at Cincinnati, for the purpose of having submitted to you
here some plan by which insurance could be taken hold of, or of find-
ing out whether any insurance company already in existence would
insure our green-houses at reasonable rates. We have learned that
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the insurance comi^anies will not touch the matter, unless we give
them in advance some exact data upon which they can make their
calculations. It has been impossible to do that.
The committee has labored faithfully and laboriously, every mem-
ber of it, individually and as a whole, and we have tried in every way
possible to get the insurance companies interested in the project, but
found it impossible to do so. In fact, one company that had insured
green-house glass sent on a detailed report of their transactions for
two years, showing that in that period they had suffered heavy losses,
and had, in consequence, decided to go out of the business. Our chair-
man (Mr. May) has presented a detailed report of a plan for the or-
ganization of a mutual company — or, in fact, a value company — for
your approval ; and what we should like now is to know whether you
approve of that plan. If you do approve of it, we can discuss it, point
by point. I, therefore, think a vote should be taken at once, in order
to get the sense of the meeting.
Mr. EsLER here explained that the valuation set forth in his i)lan
was based upon the report made by Mr, Hunt, chairman of the com-
mittee, at the last annual meeting. He had taken his data from that
report in making tlie assessment of one doHar per thousand square
feet of glass, and the payment of five cents per square foot.
Mr. F. R. PiERSOX : The data received in response to the circulars
were valueless for this reason: that those florists who reported were only
those who had met with losses, and we had no guarantj^ that all who
had met with losses did report. AVe had no data that were complete,
and, therefore, that which we liad were worse than none. For that
reason I considered it valueless to the committee.
(The pending question being the motion of Mr. Woods, declaring
that, in the judgment of the delegates present, it is unwise for this
Societ}" to adopt any plan of hail insurance at this time, was here put
to a vote and determined in the negative. The discussion then i)ro-
ceeded.)
Mr. E. G. Hill asked President Craig to favor the convention with
his opinion on the subject.
(Mr. John N. May temporarily assumed the chair.)
Mr. Craig responded : The members of the committee difi"er so
widely in their views as to be unable, after all these months, to agree
upon a plan ; and I do not see liow, in the present condition of things,
we can do anything in the matter as a Society, except to refer it back
to the committee for another twelve months, or ask for the discharge
of that committee, and the appointment of another, with the hope of
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getting a plan. Until a plan is presented, we can do nothing. In or-
der to dispose of the qnestion, I move that the matter of hail insur-
ance be given up as at this time imi^racticable.
Mr. D. R. AVooDS seconded the motion.
Mr. David Bearn, of Philadelphia, suggested the experiment of try-
ing to incorporate a hail insurance company, so tliat the Society
might see how much capital for the purpose it could get. If mem-
bers of the Society put capital in it, an insurance organization would
be secured, and then its workings could be seen.
Mr. J. 0. Vaughan (to Mr. May) : Did I understand that you rec-
ommended the plan ?
Mr. J. N. May : I recommended the plan as modified with my
amendments.
Mr. Vaughan : I understand then that you, as chairman of the com-
mittee on hail insurance of the Society of American Florists, have
recommended the plan as proposed to be amended ?
Mr. May : Certainly.
Mr. Vaughan : I tliink that is satisfactory on that point.
Mr. James Horan, of Bridgeport, Connecticut, remarked that he
thought a large majority of those present favored insurance. He, for
one, wanted it. He had been unfortunate enough, about tliree years
ago, to lose about three thousand dollars in damage by hail. He in-
sisted, however, that the motion made by President Craig was sub-
stantially identical with the one which had been voted upon and re-
jected.
The President (after a brief controversy as to the form of the pend-
ing question) : In order that there may be no further misunderstand-
ing, before we take the vote, I will again state the motion. It is this :
" That it is unwise for the delegates to adopt any plan of life insur-
ance at this time."
(The error of the Chair in substituting life for hail insurance here
provoked general merriment.)
The President : You know what Emerson has said about the misuse of
a word, and he is pretty high authority. He says that the word does
not make any diiference so long as you have the idea. Now, I had
the idea, and so had you all. I do not object to this little fun, be-
cause the matter is one over which we are liable to fall into a little ill-
humor. Indeed, I am glad, in view of the laugh it raised, that I made
the slip of the tongue that I did. Now, that there may be no mistake,
I will state that those who favor dropping this whole matter of hail
insurance will vote " aye " on the motion, and those who want to have
the subject further discussed will vote " no."
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Mr. William Graham, of Philadelphia, suggested that the vote be
taken by the members rising.
The President, acting upon the suggestion, ordered a rising vote ;
and, this being taken, the result was announced as follows : In the
affirmative, 55 ; in the negative, 67. He then announced that the
motion had been negatived, and that the subject was still open for
discussion, and invited further remarks.
Mr. A. B. Fowler, of Exeter, N. H., remarked that two reports had
been read — one by the Secretary, Mr. Taylor, and the other by the
chairman, Mr. May — and he desired to know which was presented as
the report of the committee.
The President replied that the understanding of tlie Chair was that
the committee as a whole did not make a report.
Mr. J. C. Vaughan stated that, in response to a direct inquiry on
the point, the chairman (Mr. May) had stated that his report was
presented by him as chairman of the committee.
Mr. G. L. Grant, of Chicago : I move that the plan offered by Mr.
May, with the suggestions and amendments reported by him. be
adopted by this Society.
The motion was seconded.
Mr. A. B, Fowler reminded the audience that an insurance organi-
zation, as proposed, would be obliged to conform to the laws in each
State in which it operated, and that, as the insurance laws of the
States were dissimilar and at variance with each other, it might be
found impossible to put in practical operation a sj^stem such as the
one proposed by the report. He thought that the adoption of any
plan of this kind would be premature.
Mr. F. R. Pierson called attention to the fact that the question was
simply upon approving of, or adopting, the committee's report, and
that this action would not commit the Society to the support of the
I)roposed insurance company. So far as concerned the difficulty sug.
gested by Mr. Fowler, his own opinion was that the company could
be organized under the laws of any one State, and tliat its members
in other States would receive all the benefits of it. He thought that
an organization could be effected in the State of New York, under the
mutual benefit laws of 1883, with very little expense. It would not
be necessary to organize in every State.
Mr. Fowler inquired Avhether it would not be necessary for the
company to conform to the special requirements imposed by the laws
of certain States before it could do business in those States. Some
little trouble in this way had arisen in the State of New Hampshire,
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and he had been informed that these exceptional provisions of law
existed in Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and other States.
Mr. PiERSON replied that the proposition was not that the company
should do business in every State, but only in the State in which its
organization was effected. He explained that tlie life insurance com-
pany of which lie was a member organized under the law of the
State of New York, included in its membership, and among those re-
ceiving its benefits, citizens of many other States,
Mr. E. G. Hill coincided with Mr. Pierson in the view just ex-
pressed. He thought that if the company did not establish agencies
in States other than the one in which it was organized, it would not be
subjected to any diihculty because of the restrictions of the insurance
laws of other States. He stated further that he desired to enunciate
more fully the vieAV suggested by ]\Ir. Thorpe. He agreed witli that
gentleman that, when the Society of American Florists was organized,
the idea was that it should originate and carry forward some plan of
mutual insurance for the protection of its members against loss by
hail. He desired it now to be understood that it was entirely oi)tional
witli each member to go into or stay out of the proposed organization.
He failed to see, however, that any advantage was to be gained by
withholding assistance from, or by placing obstacles in the way of, those
who desired to have such an organization. (Applause.) He had
given the subject some little thought, and it appeared to him that the
committee had pulled together in every direction but the right one.
He believed they sliould have made more strenuous efforts to reconcile
ditferences.as to details with a view to presenting at the present meeting
some plan upon which action could be taken. The supposed difficulty
of operating in difierent States, under the varying conditions of the
laws of each, had been suggested to the committee at the meeting in
Cincinnati, and that point was emphasized at the time, with the ex-
pectation that the committee would inquire into and report upon that
feature of the subject so that action could be taken intelligently at
this time. Mr. Thorpe, with his great benevolent heart, taking in the
opinions and needs of everybody, had correctly stated the position of
the matter, and the spirit which he had shown was one which others
should seek to emulate, so that all the delegates might be enabled,
leaving aside petty differences as to details, to unite in support of a
practical and earnest experiment. If it was found that such an exper-
riment could not succeed, the wliole matter could then be dropped.
Mr. D. R. Woods, of New Brighton, Pa., remarked that he tliought
he fairly expressed the sentiment of a majority of those present when
he declared that in voting down the motion which had been made,
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they did not wish to be understood as opposing hail insurance. The
point was this: that, in their judgment, it was not advisable for the
society to adopt the insurance plan as a society. They evidently
thought that, while it might be wise for the florists of America to
adopt a plan of hail insurance, it was not prudent for the society to
do it, because the florists of America and the Society of American
Florists were not identical. For one, Mr. Woods said, he was opposed
to the Society forming a company such as proposed. As individuals,
the members could do as they pleased, but as a society, they should
make haste slowly.
Referring to parliamentary law and usage, Mr. Woods argued that
the effect of a motion to adopt, rather than merely to accept, the re-
port of a committee, would bind the Society to carry out whatever the
report proposed. Hence the adoption of the insurance plan reported
by the committee would pledge the society to push the matter, and
would imply that every delegate present was to become a member of
the insurance company.
The President combated the position taken by Mr. Woods. He said
he thought that the gentleman was laboring under a misapprehension ;
that, in the opinion of the Chair, the adoption of tlie report from the
committee would not obligate the members of the Society to do any-
thing, but would leave them free to join tlie insurance company or to
stay out of it, as there was no compulsion. He added that, if in error,
he would be glad to be corrected.
Mr. J. H. McFarland of Harrisburg, Pa., here submitted, as a point
of order, that, the report having been received, the pending question
was the motion of Mr. Grant.
The President decided the point well taken.
Mr. John Thorpe asked to say a few words before the question was
decided. He explained that, some twenty years ago, the growers on
the eastern and northern shores of England suffered consideralily
from hail, while around London, (which he likened to the city of
New York at the present day, in respect to the attitude of its florists
on the question,) no concern was felt about it, as hail storms were al-
most unknown there. Some six or eight years ago, he read an account
of losses from hail at points around London — a liail storm of great
severity having occurred there, and the destruction caused by it being
so great, that the creation of a fund was made necessary for the relief
of the sufferers, and to aid in reestablishing them in business. Mr.
Thorpe went on to say that there was no question in his mind about
"the hail bill." The hail bill was to be seen wherever hail came, and
not where it did not come. When the hail comes along in the West,
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in loAva, or Dakota, or away out on the plains, where there are not so
many green-houses, its visits are not long remembered; but if hail
storms should come around Union Hill, Jersey City, and College
Point, where green-houses are as thick as bees in summer time, the
losses would be terrible, and the sutierers would be the loudest in de-
manding some means of protection thereafter. It should be remem-
bered that destruction from hail, unlike loss by fire, could not be
guarded against and provided for. The question seemed to the speaker
to be a serious one. He said that if the effort to formulate a plan
should fail altogether, some means for rendering mutual assistance in
emergencies sliould he provided voluntarily. If the men in the busi-
ness in the West were stricken down by their losses, their Eastern
brethren should help them, and tlie former, in their turn, should recip-
rocate Avhen florists in the East became the sufl'erers.
Mr. Peter Henderson said he did not believe that a single one of
the florists present would hesitate to insure against loss by hail if any
practical method for doing it could be devised. He had understood
that the purj^ose in sending out the blank circulars was to acquire the
necessary data, so that ordinary insurance companies would have
something to estimate on. For himself he could ^ay that, in a period
of thirty-seven years, he had not suffered any loss from hail. He had
no hope, however, that tliis Society would ever take hold of the hail
question, as a society, in a practical way.
Mr. J. M. Jordan, of St. Louis, said he did not regard an insurance
company and a florists' association as analogous. He thought that
the dissimilarity between the two bodies would practically keep them
distinct and separate from each other. The Florists' Association asso-
ciated together all persons interested in the trade whose cooperation
would tend to elevate it. Its circle of membership included gentle-
men, like the owner of the beautiful place at Wootton, whose natural
affinity for flowers attracted them to the Society, practical gardeners,
who are employed to raise supplies for the market, and the employes
of gardeners. Among the mem])ers, therefore, there were many who
were not interested in insuring glass, because they own no glass. He
believed that the Society, as such, had not the right to identify itself
with an insurance organization, except so far as to give its moral sup-
port for the encouragement of the individual efl'orts of deserving mem-
bers.
He coincided in the view that a hail insurance company, organized
under the laws of a particular State, could carry on its business in
other States, under the laws of other States. He cited an instance in
which a company, organized under the laws of Kentucky, and which
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 103
had paid out in losses at the rate of about three millions of dollars a
year, did not have its principal offices in Kentucky, but in Missouri,
because they thought the latter State a better place in which to do
business. The question as to whether they could remove the prin-
cipal offices from the State, after a bitter contest, had gone to the Su-
preme Court of Kentucky, and that court had said that the company
had a right to do business where it pleased, provided it complied with
the laws of Kentucky. The speaker thought that a company organ-
ized in Philadelphia could do business in any of the States, but he
reiterated that the Society ought not to go further than to say that a
company would have its moral support.
Mr. William R. Smith, of Washington, D. C, said he thought there
would be no difficulty in procuring a charter in the District of Col-
umbia for a mutual association of the kind proposed. He belonged to
a life association there which had been in existence for twenty-five
years, and the members of whicli were scattered throughout the Union.
The association could have its headquarters there nominally, if not
really, and do business all over the United States. He felt that he
could almost guarantee the procurement of a charter there. He did
not propose, however, to disciiss the feasibility of such an organiza-
tion.
Mr. M. A. Hunt, of Chicago, said he did not think that the idea of
binding the Society to any proijosition emanating from the committee
would be seriously entertained, but he thought that the members of
an organization formed within the Society would be greatly strength-
ened by the Society giving them its support in the start. It seemed
to him now, as it did last year, while reflecting on the matter, that
the creation of a fund upon which actual sufterers from loss by hail
could draAV would i)rove of great benefit. He had not given the sub-
ject sufficient thought to enable him to feel satisfied that such a means
of help could be availed of upon strictly business principles, but his
thought had been that, for one, he would be willing, if others would join
him, to throw in fifty or seventj^-five dollars a year for a general fund
upon which hail sufferers could draw. This w^as his feeling to-day.
It seemed to him that the committee, instead of simplifying the mat-
ter, had moved in the other direction, and that all the imaginary hin-
drances which seemed to lie in the way of the project had risen up
before them.
Mr. G. L. Grant, of Chicago, expressed the thought that an equit
able plan, one that would be satisfactory to everybody, could be ar-
ranged and made successful. As both sides of the question had been
presented, he now asked for a vote.
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Mr. William Graham, of Philadelphia, inquired of the Chair
whether, if tlie pending motion prevailed, the elfect would be to adopt
the plan presented by Mr. May, and to require the Society to carry it
out.
The President replied in the affirmative.
Mr. JoHX G. EsLER, of Saddle River, New Jersey, then moved to
amend the motion so as to make it read as follows : " That the Society
accepts tlie report, and directs that a committee be appointed to or-
ganize a company, with the understanding that the Society of Amer-
ican Florists will not be liable, linancially, because of such organ-
ization."
The President remarked that the exemption of the Society from an 3'^
liability was generally understood, and therefore need not be expressed.
]Mr. EsLER here made the statement that the report which had been
made by Mr. May provided all the way through for an bi-ganization
separate from that of the Society.
Mr. A. B. Fowler, of Exeter, New Hampshire, suggested that, as the
report of tlie secretary of the Insurance Committee was first submitted,
it was entitled to precedence over tlie other report, and that action
should be had upon it before the plan of the chairman of the com-
mittee was taken up.
The President replied that the plan submitted by Mr. May was the
one now under consideration.
The President ( after conferring with the author of the original
motion, who had accepted the amendment as a modification of his
motion) stated the question upon the pending motion as follows:
" That the plan reported by Mr. May be received, and that a com-
mittee be appointed, with instructions to organize a company."
A vote being here taken, this motion was adopted.
On motion of Mr. J. G. Esler, the present committee on Hail In-
surance was discharged with the thanks of the Society.
Mr. AViLLiAM Graham, of Philadelphia : I move that Mr. George W.
Childs be elected an honorary member of the Society of American
Florists.
The motion was carried by a unanimous vote.
On motion of Heniy A. Siebrecht, of New Rochelle, New York,
moved the offer of a vote of thanks to Mr. George W. Childs for his
kind hospitality upon the occasion of the visit of the Society to that
gentleman's country-seat this afternoon.
Mr. D. R. Woods, of New Brighton, Pa., suggested the appointment
of a committee of three to draft resolutions of thanks to Mr. Childs
and to forward the same to him.
SOCiETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 105
Mr. SiEBRECHT accepted the suggestion.
The motion of Mr. Siebrecht, as modified by Mr. Woods' sugges-
tion, was adopted by a unanimous vote.
On motion of Mr. Esler, the committee to organize the hail in-
surance company was ordered to consist of five members ; and,
on motion of Mr. H. M. Smith, of New York city, the Chair was
autliorized to appoint the committee at such time as he might think
best.
Both motions were adopted without dissent.
Mr. McFarland moved a vote of thanks to Mr. James Hendrick, for
his response in behalf of the Society at the reception given this day
by Mr. George W. Childs.
Adopted unanimously.
On motion of Mr. D. D. L. Farson, of Philadelpliia, it was ordered
that a copy of the constitution and by-laws be mailed to each member
of the Society.
Adjourned.
THIRD DAY— Morning.
Horticultural Hall, Philadelphia,
Saturday^ August 21^ 1886.
President Craig announced the following appointment :
Executive Committee. — ^Joiin Thorpe, Queens, N, Y.; Egbert J.
Halliday, Baltimore; J. M. Jordan, St. Louis; C. B. Whitnall, Mil-
waukee; E. G. Hill, Richmond, Ind.; John N. May, Summit, N. J.;
H. A. Siebrecht, New Rochelle, N. Y.; Alexander Murdoch, Pitts-
burgli, Pa., and W. J. Stewart, Boston, Mass.
Also, in accordance with the reports from the various State delega-
tions, the election and appointment of the State vice presidents, a
list of whom will be found on page 4.
The President announced that the following had been constituted
the committee to organize a hail insurance company, pursuant to the
resolution previously adopted :
J. M. Jordan, St. Louis, chairman ; Henry A. Siebrecht, New Roch-
elle, N. Y.; E. G. Hill, Richmond,. Ind.; J. G. Esler, Saddle River,
N. J.; J. 0. Vaughan, Chicago.
The President announced the following as a Committee on Final
Resolutions :
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Peter Henderson, Jersey City, N. J., chairman ; J. H. Taylor, Bay-
side, N. Y., W, J. Stewart, Boston.
Mr. J. N. JMay : I move the appointment of a committee to consider
the advisability of changing tlie first day of our annual meeting from
Wednesday to Tuesday, and of so amending our by-laws as to provide
against an interruption of the convention during its business sessions,
such as we have had at the present meeting. Tlie point for consider-
ation is whether any interruption shall be permissible while the busi-
ness of the annual meeting remains undisposed of.
The President : It is evident, from our present experiences, that
our local committee, in their kindness of heart, have made a mistake.
They were actuated by the best of motives, and would promise not to
again err in the same direction, at least not to the extent to which
they have erred.
Mr. J. C. Vaughan: I had hoped the Chair would not construe the
motion as intended to cast any reflection upon any one. No member
of this Society — I think I speak for every one of them — would suggest
a complaint concerning the manner in which our time has been occu-
pied, in view of what has been done for our pleasure and comfort
here. The motion looks onh' to the future.
The President : The Chair would add one word on the point before
dismissing it. He is sure that every one understands that the arrange-
ments by the local committee were made with the best intentions.
There is the best of feeling here, but there is a clear conviction that
the time appropriated to festivity has been of such length as to inter-
fere with business ; and everybody seems to be of opinion that we
should attend to business before pleasure next year. I do not think
there is any dissatisfaction or fault-finding about it, but there seems to
be a decided disposition to attend to business hereafter without delay,
and to leave our little pleasure trips until our business is finished.
The motion of Mr. May was adopted by a unanimous vote amid ap-
plause.
The President announced, as the next business, an essay on " The
Advantages of Hot Water over Steam for Heating Purposes," by J. D.
Carmody, Evansville, Indiana.
Mr. Carmody came forward, and was heartily welcomed. He said :
" Before reading my paper on this subject, I wish to state that I claim
to be a florist in a small way. The plants that I cultivate are covered
by about nine thousand feet of glass. I have been engaged in the busi-
ness for fifteen years, and the paper Avhich I now submit has been
written from a florist's stand-point onl}'"."
The essayist h«re read as follows :
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THE ADVANTAGES OF HOT WATER OVER STEAM FOR HEATING PURPOSES.
In advocating hot water as a lieating medium in preference to steam, we do
not condemn the latter to tlie extent of calling it a failure, for where all condi-
tions are favorable and proper attention is paid, good results have been achieved.
The same may be said of the old brick flue. No doubt there are many florists
present who are raising as fine plants and flowers by tlie aid of its heat as ever
bloomed under the aid afforded by the most approved steam or hot water appa-
ratus ; but who, for conveniences sake and general results, would not exchange
the flue for either steam or hot water ?
Before making the change, it is wise to set the two systems in question side by
side, turn them inside out, expose every weak point, and exhibit such commend-
able quality for public inspection, that we may adopt the better method. In
order to present the subject under discussion in the most comprehensive manner,
we will examine it in detail and introduce to vour notice.
1.— LOCATION OF HOILEU WITH REGARD TO CONVENIENCE.
Steam, to work well, must have the boiler located low enough for the water
line to come below the level of the return pipes in the green-liouse. This neces-
sitates a pit or cellar in immediate proximity, not lesstlian six or eight feet deep,
wliicli can only be constructed at considerable expense ; and necessity often com-
pels the location to be inconvenient of access, laborious to supply with coal and
in removing the ashes. In many localities sucli an excavation will at times give
a world of trouble from surface water. We have personal knowledge of several
such instances.
Hot water circulation is independent of location. It flows as well with the
boiler above as below the ground line. No dark pit or subterranean cellar is
necessary, in which to generate its radiating current. Convenience only, with
regard to location, is consulted. '
2.— COMPARATIVE SIZE OF BOILERS.
A steam boiler must be large enough to hold a generous supply of steam, and
at the same time water enough to cover the fire-box. This necessitates a bulky
mass, difficult to get in place, and often times occupying much valued room.
Hot water boilers are small and compact, requiring little space.
3.— COMPLICATION OF BOILER AND ATTACHMENTS.
Every well-regulated steam boiler is applied with numerous appendages, known
as water gauge, steam gauge, safety valve, check valve, draught regulator,
damper regulator, injector or supply pump, and every distinct line of pipe in the
houses must have an air cock. The use and management of all these necessary
adjuncts must be learned by the man in charge, and when the knowledge is at-
tained, he thinks he is entitled to the rank of engineer, and demands correspond-
ing wages.
Hot water boilers have no need of these expensive ornaments, and a cheap
hand, witli sense enough to tlirow in coal and pull out ashes, is competent to-run
the fire.
4.— COST OF BOIL*ER.
A new wrought-iron steam boiler, with all tlie necessary appliances, will cost
from one half more to double the amount required for a hot water boiler to heat
a house of a given size.
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5.— COST OF PIPKS.
Steam pipes (from the liigli temperature tliey attain i are much smaller than
those used for hot water, and less quantity in length is generally required. They
are also laid quicker, but always require experienced labor, with expensive tools,
to do the job.
Hot water pipes are generally larger and of cast iron, put togetiier in so simple
a manner tiiat cheap labor and inexpensive tools can be employed. But the work
is slowTr and the pipe more expensive, rtud the result is that steam piping is the
cheaper.
6. — TE3IPERATURE OF CIRCULATION.
Steam is said to be the product of water heated to a temperature of 212^ Falir.
It is true that steam, at atmospheric pressure, registers only 212° of perceptible
heat, but to raise steam sufficient to expel the air from the pipes, and fill them
■with steam, requires 966° of additional units of heat. So steam is really the pro-
duct of 1,178- of heat ; 966- are lield in the boiler latent, while only 212' enter
into the circulation.
But please notice that it requires just as much fuel to generate the 966° of
latent heat, as if it were so many degrees of sensible heat tliat entered into the
circulation. Again, to produce any lieat at all, the radiating pipes must reg-
ister at least 212° to 215°. This temperature, in mild w^eather, is too high for
plant growing, and if steam is turned on or off to regulate the temperature, close
attention is demanded, and a waste of fuel is going on in keeping up steam heat
in the boiler.
With hot water, as soon as fire is started in the boiler, circulation commences
at once, and every unit of heat imparted to the water is sensible, and, entering
into the circulation, is transniitted to the atmosphere of tlie houses. In moder-
ate weather, when a little heat is needed, a steady supply at low temperature is
easily maintained, with no waste of fuel, and but little attention to the fire.
7.— COMPARATIVE DURATION OF HEAT WHEN FIRE IS EXHAUSTED.
When the feed water of a steam boiler falls below 212°, circulation ceases.
Steam is very volatile, and radiates its heat quickly, and tlie pipes being small,
cool off in a very short time, leaving tiie houses without heat, though tliere may
be some fire and a large amount of heat in tlie boiler.
Hot water pipes are generally large, and tlieir content?, when heated to 180°
or 200°, retains heat a long time, dispensing it gradually, little by little, as the
surrounding atmosphere demands it, continually drawing on the fire and boiler
for its last particle of heat, carrying the liouses safely through the early morning
hours, when winter's fierce breath becomes most penetrating, and the florist
finds his warm bed most attractive. We will, in this connection, refer to
8. — THE ATTENTION REQUIRED
by each system to maintain an even temperature of heat.
With steam, the numerous appliances to keep in order about the boiler, the air-
cocks in the radiation pipes, (which, if not automatic, must be opened and closed
every time steam is raised,) the high tem|)erature necessary to be maintained,
the rapidity with which the pipes cool off, require close and constant attention
that only a competent, sober, intelligent man can be trusted with. No matter
how automatic your regulators are, it is not safe to fill up the fire-box and
leave it, especially when soft coal is used. A sudden spurt of the fire is liable to
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 109
occur or it may smother out entirely. Too raucli lieat endangers the pipes or
boiler, and raises the temperature too high for the plants. Too little fire gives
no steam and the pipes are cold, though the feed-water is just ready to boil.
I have the statement of reliable persons, and I know, from my own experience,
that it is not safe to leave a steam apparatus on a cold night more tlian thirty
minutes without attention, and little heat will be left in one hour. To make
steam economically, a bright, quick fire of flame is best. This is attained by fre-
quent firings with small quantities of fuel, which requires the constant attention
of a diligent man.
The proprietor, who has everything at stake, is really the surest man to trust,
but are they all willing to lose rest night and day when there is an easier plan in
the hot-icater system ?
Here, all that needs attention is the fire, and after the water is hot, a quantity
of fuel may be thrown in, and the draught regulated to maintain a slow fire that
will last from one to two hours. When tlie fuel is consumed, we have left the
heat of tlie water as a reserve force, wiiich is good for one or two hours more.
Thus you can hfive a respite of three to four liours, instead of one hour wit]\
steam.
yhould the fireman of a hot-water system so forget his duty as to raise steam
in his own system by an overdose of stimulant, and under its influence fall asleep,
or in any other way neglect his trust after the hour of midnight, no damage
would be likely to occur ; but the plants protected by steam under like circum-
stances, would hang their heads in sorrow when t lie morning sun melted away
the icy fetters that Iiad crushed out tlieir life.
!'.— DURABILITY OF BOILERS.
Steam boilers are generally made of wrougI>t-iron as a safe-guard against acci-
dent, while tlie majority of water-boilers are of cast-iron. Xow, if tliese boil-
ers were kept in constant use, they would be alike durable, but when not in use
the wrought-iron will rust out very rapidly, especially where soft coal has been
used that contained siili)hur. In this case, the flues of a wrought-iron boiler will
not last more tiian three or four years, while a cast-iron boiler is good for many
years. 1 have now a cast boiler in good condition that has been in use for twelve
years, while a wrought-boiler I had made as an experiment was useless after the
third season.
10. — COST OF JUEL.
The difference between tiie cost of fuel by the two systems is so little that ac-
tual experiments, conducted in the most careful manner, only will tell the amount.
To decide this, the same boiler must be used, the same houses heated, with the
same man to do the firing in an impartial manner, and the same weather must
be met. Until this test is made, A will tell C his steam system used less coal
than B"s hot-water, and B will tell C how little fuel he used for his hot-water
heating, in comparison with A's coal-eating steam works.
11. — HOT-WATER UNDER PRESSURE.
Advocates of steam claim for their system quicker heat and higher tempera-
ture than can be had by hot water. This is a mistake.
Give water the same pressure as steam, use small pipes, and iiot water pos-
sesses the same capacity as steam. The pipes will be just as hot and circulation
just as rapid as steam. It, furthermore, has the advantage of circulating at a
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lower temperature, and retaining heat for double tlie time that steam can. For
tliose wlio desire liigh temperature, we can recommend tliis plan as possessing
many advantages over steam. We shall be pleased at any time to explain this
system more fully to those wiio are unacquainted witii the laws governing high
pressure water lieat, and desire furtiier information on the subject.
12.— CONDITION OF PLANTS — STEAM VCTSUS HOT WATER.
Is a higli temperature conducive to perfect health and sturdy growth of bed-
ding plants ? We say no ; and the florist, in spring, will tell you Ins cold pit
sheltered Ins best plants. Does a high temperature produce the best flowers?
We say no ; the florist that studies natureand adopts her plans is most successful.
Does nature produce lier best flowers under the seorcliing rays of a .July sun ?
Are not her delicate ferns and most luxuriant foliage raised in cool retreats—
'neath shading bouglis ?
Mild, balmy spring brings forth the rose in her beauty, wdiich lingers till sum-
mer's fevered breatli blasts her loveliness. Then a struggling life she leads till
autumn's dewy nights bring refresliing balm that starts anew the stagnated cur-
rent, and with life renewed, the queen of flowers is seen in all her glory.
This is the lesson nature teaches: 8i)ring and fall are the seasons for flowers.
Summer's heat brings tlie fruit. AVe are florists, and if we would liave flowers, we
must maintain in our liouses a steady temperature at a medium degree, and avoid
sudden changes. Tliis condition every florist knows can better be obtained by
large pipes fllled with water at a moderate temperature tlian by small pipes filled
with volatile steam at a burning heat, liable in one siiort hour to become cold as
death.
A temperature conducive to man's health is the proper one for plants. The
celebrated Dr. Mussey, of Cincinnati, who wrote me last fall in relation to hot-
water apparatus for his dwelling-house, says hot-air furnances and steam iieat-
ers can be placed in tlie same category, and neitlier are tlie proper system with
which to heat a dwelling. Tlie only proper heat, outside of the old-fashioned
wood fire-place, is found in the hot- water system. I liave received several let-
ters from florists wlio now use steam, tiiat express tlieir determination to return
to hot water, both for convenience's sake and general results.
In conclusion, we will advise the florists who wish to heat under five thousand
feet of glass with one fire, to use hot water with four-inch pipes and an open
tank. Tiiose who have more than that quantity to heat with one fire, should
use hot water under pressure in two-inch wrougiit-iron pipes. A little closer at-
tention is required to keep the heat up, but the system is much less confusing
tlian steam.
The President : Before proceeding with the discussion of this ques-
tion, we will hear from the opposite side of tlie issue, viz : an essay by
Mr. J. H. Taylor, of Bayside, New York, on ''The Advantages of
Steam over Hot Water for Heating Purposes."
THE ADVANTAGES OF STEAM OVER HOT WATER.
I have been asked to champion steam-heating for green-house purposes, and I
shall endeavor to give you a fair and impartial review of the subject from a
grower's stand-point, not from tlie scientist's view, as the space allowed is lim-
ited, and the theoretical portion has been most ably treated by Mr. A. B. Fowler,
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in a recent article written by Iiim. I shall endeavor to show the working of steam-
heating as applied to our purposes, that you may form your own opinions. In
order to elucidate my subject more clearly, I shall take it up under different
heads.
CAN PLANTS BE GROWN AS WELL BY THE SYSTEM OF STEAM HEAT AS BY
THAT OF HOT WATER V
I answer most decidedly in the aflirmative, and go a step further and hold that
they can be better grown. This is owing to the fact of having the temperature
and moisture entii'ely under control during the winter months. Therefore, the
grower using steam to heat his houses lias this advantage over the one using hot
water, that lie is not as dependent on the outside conditions of the atmosphere.
Having the heat under sucli perfect control, it is possible to fire early and late
in the fall, and, if necessary, during the summer months. This is highly impor-
tant to the grower of stove plants as well as of roses. Tiiis can be accomplished
from the fact that steam-pipes radiate heat immediately upon tlie steam being
turned into them, and cool in fifteen minutes after it has been shut off.
CONVENIENCE OF HANDLING.
Again, only one or more boilers are required in places heated by steam. With
very little trouble or expense, it is possible to make a wood or light coal fire and
run steam through the green-house, and. when no longer required, it can be shut
off immediately. An inch-and-a-tiuarter pipe with steam at low i)ressure circu-.
latiiig through it, on a rainy day, will not materially raise the temperature, but
will, by leaving a little air on at the ventilators, change the atmosphere, thus
preventing all forms of fungi wliich breed in a warm and muggy one. In this
way, also, fumes of sulphur can be given during any season of the year.
Another advantage that steam possesses is that of being able to heat green-
houses in the coldest climate to any desired degree. Owing to the requisite size
of pipe for hot-water heating, there is a limit to the piping of a house, whereas
with steam this is not tlie case.
COST OF FUEL, ETC.
The next important consideration is that of fuel. I have tried to get some
exact data to lay before you bearing on tliis point, but without much success.
An accurate comparison of heating between tlie establishments of different
growers is very difficult to draw, owing to construction, location, aspect, and
stock raised. Just wliat allowance to make for the influence of any of these
conditions it is, of course, impossible to estimate, and an absolute comparison of
fuel cannot be obtained. I can, however, give you my own experience, which
shows a decided saving of fuel between the two systems of heating. Since using
steam, we have added seven thousand live hundred square surface feet of glass.
Our consumption of fuel during the past live years has been as follows: During
the year 1879-80, with hot-water piping, four hundred tons of coal were con-
sumed; in 1880-81, four hundred tons; in 1881-82, using both steam and hot
water, four hundred and twenty-five tons, (this was owing to our havhig a larger
steam boiler than was necessary ;) in 1882-83, using steam alone and with an ad-
dition of two thousand four hundred square feet of glass, we burned three hun-
dred tons; in 1883-84, three hundred and twenty-five tons; in 1884-85, three
hundred and tiiirty-five tons; in 1885-86, three hundred and seventy tons, with
an addition of five thousand one hundred square feet of glass.
112 PROCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
During the first two of these years, we raised almost exclusively bedding stuff,
but gradually filled the houses with tea roses and carnations, and during last
winter we I'an two houses of lilacs, which we maintained at eighty degrees.
Thus tlie stock whicli Ave have raised latterly has required a much higiier tem-
perature, and we can still show a saving.
COMPARATIVE FIRST COST.
The first cost is by no means a small consideration, and here again steam has
the advantage. The cost of heating a house two hundred by sixteen feet by hot
water would be, exclusive of the items of cliiraney, etc., six hundred and eighty-
four dollars. To heat the same house by steam would cost five hundred and
sixty-seven dollars. We, therefore, iiave a saving in the first instance of one
hundred and seventeen dollars. On a larger range, jthe saving would be even
greater, not only in the same ratio, lut on account of boilers, for large steam
boilers cost less tlian several iiot-water boilers. Thus, a man putting up, for in-
stance, six houses two hundred feet long would save on tlie first cost, at the same
ratio, seven hundred and two dollars, but actually even more. A comparison of
cost of the boilers on my place will give us an approximate understanding of the
matter. Our old hot-water boilers cost, at the market price, three tliousand nine
hundred dollars ; our present steam boilers cost one thousand nine hundred dol-
lars. Here alone we show a saving of two thousand dollars, and if we add to
that the difference in the cost of pipe, a saving in the first cost over hot water of
thirty per cent, would be a mild statement.
FURTHER ECONOMY.
There are other reasons wiiy steam, properly put in, should be more economical
than hot water; not because more heat is made from a pound of coal, but from
the metliod of applying tlie heat. Hot water boilers, as a rule, lose a large per-
centage of their heat up the chimney ; it is not as tlioroughly utilized as in steam.
Again, it is necessary to fire with hot water at times when the steam boilers could
be banked, in order to keep the water hot for any emergency. Another point
which saves coal in steam heating is the fact that when the lieat is not needed, it
can be shut off. This is a thing impossible to do with the hot water boiler on a
cold day. These are probably the main reasons why a saving of fuel is obtained.
HIGH PRESSURE verSUS LOW.
' For our purpose, tiie low-pressure system of heating is decidedly the best. In
the first place, it requires less attention ; unskilled labor can be employed, and,
witli ordinary care, we have absolute safety. On the other hand, high pressure
requires a good engineer, constant watching, and, therefore, the risk that the
man in charge may fall asleep, the water get low in the boilers, and the man,
green-houses and boilers be things of the past.
There are a few essential points regarding a proper low-pressure apparatus
which I would call your attention to :
First. Ample boiler capacity.
Second. A main large enough to convey the "required volume of steam with
little friction.
Third. To have the pipes so laid that water, starting from the highest point of
the main steam pipe, after leaving the boiler, will return, by gravity, to the same;
not to have any pockets along the route, and to have a good drip from the circula-
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 113
tions to the return main, the same to be connected to the main return independ-
ently of one another. Thus, all snapping and banging will be avoided, as should
and would be tlie case in perfect steam work.
If all green-houses heated by steam were properly piped, and had ample boiler
capacity, we should not hear about the failure of this method of heating as ap-
plied to green-houses.
Everytliing considered, it seems to be the best method known of heating. It
has its defects, but its advantages are so numerous that when it is better under-
stood, and growers and help find means of remedying the former, it will undoubt-
edly be the system most used until science suggests something else. When we
take into consideration the fact that steam for heating green-houses has only
been tested for a few years, the number of places so lieated already speak loudly
in its favor.
The President : The subject is now open for discussion. Remarks
on the advantages of hot water over steam are first in order.
Mr. Peter Henderson moved that the remarks be limited to ten
minutes. Adopted.
Mr. C. B. Whitnall, of Milwaukee, here remarked that Mr. Taylor,
in his essay, had asserted that a large number of hot-water boilers
were required to take the place of a steam boiler, but had not given
the reason for it.
Mr. Taylor : It depends, of course, upon the extent of the area
covered by your glass. Thus far, I have failed to see a hot-water
boiler that would heat fifty thousand square feet of glass. It w^ould
take from twelve to eighteen hot-water boilers to do that. We have
had on our place eighteen hot-water boilers.
Mr. J. M. Jordan, of St. Louis, advised those of his hearers whose
hot-water apparatus was doing well to continue its use, and those who
were about to put in an entirely new plant, to decide for themselves
upon tlie relative merits of hot water and steam by a personal inspec-
tion of the two methods. The jjoint was one upon which it was diffi-
cult to give advice, and he thought it was equally inadvisable for the
Society to commit itself in favor of either method. By way of cor-
recting possible misapprehensions, he suggested that the allusion of
Mr. Carmody to the temperature of a steam furnace, which that gen-
tleman had stated at nine hundred degrees of heat, should be stated
more specifically, so as to show that units, not degrees, of heat were
referred to ; also that an exaggeration had occurred in Mr. Taylor's
estimate of the cost of heating a green-house Avith hot water. He
said that that gentleman had put the cost of the apparatus for a house
of two hundred and twenty feet in width at about $1,000, but, in point
of fact, a boiler with a capacity to heat a greater space could be pur-
chased for a less sum than the one named. So far as the utility and
healthfulness of green-house heating ^vas concerned, the speaker was
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unable to see that there was practically much diiFerence between hot
water and steam, though he had no doubt that in a large place, situ-
ated as was that of Mr. Taylor's, heat could be secured more econ-
omically by the use of steam.
Mr. Taylor replied that his figures were $684 for a house of two
liundred and twenty feet long.
Mr. S. C. Moon, of Morrisville, Pa.: There is one point in favor of
hot-water boilers which, I think, has been omitted. I think when you
have fifty or eighty thousand feet of glass, and have but one boiler,
your whole place is liable to be completely frozen up in case that
boiler happens to break down or give way on a cold night ; whereas,
if the same amount of glass is heated by several hot- water boilers in
operation, the danger I have suggested is less than it would be with
the use of steam, as only one boiler is liable to give out at a time.
Therefore, it would be an advantage, instead of a disadvantage, to
have a number of boilers.
Mr. Taylor : I think the gentleman (Mr. Moon) is quite right about
that, but that very thing can be done by steam ; in fact, most of the
large places heated by steam have two or more boilers. Additional
safety is thus assured, and in moderate weather only one boiler need
be used.
Mr. T. Edwards, of Bridgetoii, N. J., here rose to speak in behalf of
the hot water side of the question, but was ruled out of order by the
Chair, as the ensuing ten minutes had been appropriated for the use
of the advocates of steam.
Mr. J. Y. Smith, of Doylestown, Pa., said that a ten-minute limit
upon an old man like himself, who moved slowly, would not i^ermit
him to say much. He referred to the discovery of the power of steam
in the raising of the lid of a tea-kettle, and to the development of
that power in the low-pressure engine, the condensing engine, and the
steam-boat engine. He said he had in use in his green-houses a boiler
which he had purchased from the Philadelphia, Wilmington and
Baltimore Railroad, and had known of for nearly thirty years. Its
cost was one hundred dollars, and he knew from experience that it
had kept up the circulation of steam throughout his green-houses for
about nine hours daily without attention. His green-houses were eight
in number, and of these four were two hundred and fifty feet, and four
were one hundred and twenty-five feet in length. He continued :
I am not a florist, but do pretend to be an engineer. The boiler
which I have in use was condemned and thrown out, but I may con-
tinue to use it during my lifetime. It has already lasted many years,
I have another boiler, purchased in Philadelphia, which, I was told.
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had been in use for many years in heating honses or hotels. I am not
a practical man in the cultivation of flowers, though I have served
four years' apprenticeship in the business. I am using the refuse coal,
which costs very little, delivered in Doylestown. With respect to the
pipes, I would say that it is one of the simplest things in the world to
secure a perfect circulation in a green-house ; but, if you do not have
a perfect circulation, the heating of jonr houses will prove quite ex-
I)ensive. If you have to force your water up hill, whether by pump-
ing or other means, it will cost you a great deal of money. The
speaker urged the importance of a projjer arrangement of the heating
pipes in a green-house.
Mr. Peter Henderson, of Jersey City, N. J. : Two j^ears ago I built
a house three hundred and fifty feet long and twenty feet wide for the
special purpose of enabling me to compare the relative merits of
steam and hot water. In this house I placed tw^o boilers for steam,
which were almost identical in size with two boilers I had in a house
of exactly similar dimensions, which was heated by hot water. My
object was to decide the point whether there was any ditference in
the growth of plants in either case. I found that, in our season's
trial, there was no difference whatever that I could detect. The
plants grown in the steam house, wliich were roses, were just as good
as those grown in the house in which hot water was used. In the cost
of fuel we found the test to be a very satisfactory one. In the steam
boiler pit we placed four measured tons of coal, and in the hot water
boiler pit the same quantity. When the coal was exhausted in the
hot water boiler pit, we found that we had one ton remaining in the
steam boiler pit. To further test the matter, we placed three tons in
the steam boiler pit, and again four tons in the hot water boiler pit.
When this was exhausted in the hot water pit, we again found one ton
left in the steam boiler pit — showing a clear saving of twenty-five
per cent. The temperature in each house was, as near as possible,
identical, and the conditions of both were as nearly the same as they
well could be ; if anything, the advantage was a little in favor of the
house heated by hot water, because it was placed between two other
houses, thus saving the exposure of the outer Avails.
By way of deciding why it was that steam at two hundred and
twelve degrees did not injure the plants (as we found it did not) any-
more than did hot water at probably one hundred and fifty or one
hundred and sixty degrees, I took a thermometer and made tests at
two, four, six, eight, ten, twelve, fourteen, sixteen and eighteen inches
from a two-inch steam pipe and a four-inch hot water pipe. This was
some time about the first of February. We found that, when placed
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at a distance of two inches from tlie two-inch steam pipe, the tlier-
mometer marked 70° ; at two inches from the hot water pipe, 68° ; at
four inches from the steam pipe, 68° ; at four inches from the hot
water pipe, 67° ; at six inches from the steam pipe, 67° ; and at six
inches from the hot water pipe, 66°. At fourteen inches from the
steam pipe, and fourteen inclies from the hot water pipe, in each
case, 62° appeared. This showing, therefore, demonstrated that the
difference was merely nominal, tliat practically no difference existed.
Consequently, the general opinion about the injury done by steam
pipes wlien heated up to 212°, has really no foundation in fact. The
radiation is almost the same in both cases.
[The ten minutes liere expired.]
Mr. H. A. SiEBREciiT : The last point made by Mr. Henderson is cer-
tainly a very important one, althougli it has almost invariably been
overlooked. I wisli to tliank him for stating it.
Mr. J. D. Cahmody, being given ten minutes on the side of liot water
explained, in reply to Mr. Jordan's reference, that his own essay
treated of units — not degrees — of heat. He continued:
The possibilities of hot water under pressure have never been de-
veloped, though tests have been made in isolated cases in which it has
been in practical use. If you apply to hot water the same i)ressure
which is applied to steam, you will have the same heat that you have
with steam, but with a slower radiation ; in other words, the hot water
will retain the heat for more than twice the length of time for wliich it is
retained by the same amount of steam. If you use two-incli pipes
and apph^ a steady pressure, you can heat your pipes with a pressure
of twenty pounds up to a temperature of 257^°. That is as high a
temperature as is often reached by steam. You seldom raise your
steam more than from five to ten pounds' j)ressure. I claim, there-
fore, that you will get the same amount of heat in your pipes from hot
water that you will get from steam. At the level of the sea, the boil-
ing point is 212°. On the top of a high mountain it is regulated
by the altitude. Put the water under pressure, fill the pipes up
tight, expel all the air, and the boiling point will never be reached as
long as those pipes hold the water in them. There will be neither
steam or air in those pipes. In that way, you can get a high degree of
temperature and a rapid circulation, using the same pipes for hot
water that you use for steam. Furthermore, you get circulation in your
hot water pipe more quickly than in your steam pipe, because hot water
circulates immediately ; that is, as quicklj^ as heat is imparted to the
water ; whereas with steam the operation is slower, as you have to
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 117
expel the air from the pipes before filling them with steam. Your
water, to produce steam, is required to be heated to 212°, with the ad-
ditional units of 966° besides. Then, when your fire is extinguished
you can only draw what heat remains in the pipes. Of course that
latent heat will last awhile, but it quickl}^ cools off. If j^our pipes are
filled Avith hot water, that heat is retained in them longer, and you
draw on what little heat there is in the fire, and all the heat that is in
the boiler. I say if you want high temperature and quick circulation,
you will use hot water under pressure. You will thus have all the
advantages of steam with tlie additional advantages of hot water cir-
culation.
Mr. John N. May (being called upon by Mr. Peter Henderson)
said : I am a hot water advocate, gentlemen. M}^ reason is that I am
a workingman, that I have to work for my living, and prefer to attend
to my business myself rather than to deputize some one to attend to
it for me. I tell you, honestly, that you cannot manufacture a steam
boiler with which I could sleep soundly at night, if it was in opera-
tion in my place.
Mr. Thomas DeWitt : I would ask Mr. Carmody how it is that he
can get water to circulate in the hot water pipes immediately after
making a fire, wliere there is no pressure. The hot water will not
move until it begins to exi)and, and it will not expand until it gets
to al)out the boiling point.
Mr. Carmody : At 212° the water indicates no pressure. By adding
to it one pound of pressure, you have 215° of heat, at two pounds
219°, and so on as you go up. One degree of heat will cause the water
to expand immediately, and, if you have a stand-pipe, you can see the
effect of a single degree of heat in raising the water, so that it will
cover the bottom of your expansion tank. The more heat you impart
to it the more rapidly the water will move.
Mr. E. G. Hill : I am an advocate of the use of steam, and a be-
liever in its superior utility, because it enables you to fit out a plant
at a saving in cost of one third as compared with hot water. In the
second place, it furnishes a medium by which absolute control of the
temperature in the houses can be secured. I think that that is a val-
uable consideration. The saving of one tliird in the cost of fuel
would put enough money in the pocket of any one of our friends to
warrant him in taking a little jaunt during the year, and getting back
home without feeling that he had indulged in an extravagance which
he could not aftbrd. I admit that there is something in the claim that
is made of the advantages of heating by hot water under pressure. I
know of a gentleman in Cincinnati who adopts that method, and is
118 PEOCEEDINQS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
very successful with it, aud that it enables him to show a decided sav-
ing in his fuel bill.
With respect to Mr. May's distrust of a steam boiler, I have only to
say that a steam boiler is not likely to get out of order sooner or more
frequently than a hot water boiler which is run on the low pressure
principle, as there is no strain on the latter. Upon another i)oint, I
have to say that when the thermometer shows fifteen or twenty de-
grees below zero, if j^our house is properly piped for steam, you have
only to open the valve and there will be no tension or strain on the
boiler. On the other hand, I have found that it is necessary, when
the state of the thermometer is as I have indicated, to force a hot
water boiler to its utmost capacity. I think there is notliing of value
in what lias been said al)out people going to sleep and neglecting the
boiler. Indeed, I think we had better not become too serious over
this question of steam and hot water. Let me suggest this considera-
tion that, in the use of anthracite coal, you have the advantage of be-
ing able to fix your boiler for either hot water or steam, and to leave
it; but that with bituminous coal, this cannot be done, and you are
required to employ a man to attend to the boiler, because of the lia-
bility of your coal to coke. The suggestion made by Mr. Moon has
already been answered, because I think if there is risk with one steam
boiler, there is, of course, risk with one hot water boiler. Moreover,
the cost of purchasing two large steam boilers and setting them up
would be, perhaps, the same as that of the purchase and fitting up of
four hot water boilers.
Mr. J. H.Taylor: Inrej^lyto the gentleman fromlndiana, (Mr. Hill,)
I have to say that, two years ago, at Christmas time, a neighbor of mine,
who uses hot water, had a fine house of lilies of the valley, and
these, at that season, were worth considerable mone}". He went to
bed one night, and, like Mr. May, slept soundl5^ The next morning
he found that frost had entered his house, the boiler having cracked
during the night. In another instance, one of my neighbors, Avhose
green-houses are also heated by hot water, upon going out to look at
his houses early one morning, found his watchman asleep ; the fires
nearly out, and the temperature in the houses near the freezing point.
So that, as far as sleeping is concerned, I do not think Mr. May, on a
cold night, sleeps any more soundly than I do.
Mr. David Cliffe, of Philadelphia : I have tried all the methods.
Three years ago I bought two boilers, and have attended to them my-
self. Though at times I found the temperature in the houses getting
a little low at night, I was enabled to get it up more quickly than I
could have done if I had been using hot water. I have not suffered
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from frost, and am a strong advocate of steam, because I have found it
to be more economical — both in labor and coal. In my judgment, it
has advantages over either flues or hot water. I have, perhaps, twenty
thousand feet of glass, and can heat my houses with steam quite satis-
factorily.
Mr. Peter Henderson : Referring to what I have said about my ex-
periment with the tw^o boilers, one for steam, and the other a power-
ful hot water boiler, both almost identical, let me add that I have
had them running for two years, and have asked my men repeatedly
whether they could leave the steam boilers for as long a time as they
could leave the hot water boilers. They assured me that they could
leave them for two or three hours longer than they could leave the
hot water boilers. [Applause.] To make my statement more definite,
I will say that on an ordinary cold night the}^ could leave the steam
boilers for from eight to ten hours.
Mr. John Thorpe : We have a steam-heating apparatus, and only
four times during the past winter have we sat up at night with our
steam boiler. Before that time, we had hot water boilers, and were
obliged to sit up occasionally during the season. As a rule, the fire is
made up at nine o'clock at night, and is not touched again until seven
o'clock next morning, week in and week out. I have run it for three
years now. We have had no accident, and no hitch or trouble in any
shape or form.
Mr. Thorpe, in reply to an inquiry at this point, was understood to
say that he used hard coal.
Mr, David Cliffe : I use, principally, hard coal screenings, whicli
are delivered to me at a cost of three dollars per ton.
Mr. Murdoch, of Pittsburgh, remarked that the boiler in use at his
green-houses was insi^ected by the boiler insi^ector once a year, so that
there Avas little apprehension of an explosion of the boiler because of
its defectiveness. He did not consider that steam 1)oilers were more
dangerous than hot water boilers, but thought that one was quite as
safe as the other in every respect. In regard to economy of fuel, he
thought that steam had some little advantage over hot water.
Mr. Cliffe was understood to say that he could run his green-houses
by circulating steam through them without any pressure at all.
Mr. Taylor : In the spring and fall, or in moderate weather, we cir-
culate our steam also with no indicative pressure on the boilers. I
would say here that I hope to make a further saving in fuel by burn-
ing pea coal — a difficult thing to do with a hot-water boiler.
A Delegate : We have burned nothing but pea coal for three years
under our hot-water boilers.
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Mr. D. D. L. Farson, of Philadelphia, referring to a statement by
Mr. Cliffe, remarked that that gentleman liad not shown any advan-
tage in the use of steam, as compared -with hot water, in the saving
of fuel. In defense of the claims of hot water to favorable consider-
ation, he explained that he had torn out a patent hot-water boiler,
and in about fifteen hours, had constructed and put in perfect work-
ing order one of his own design. This he had used for several years.
He had used for fuel, coke screenings from the gas works, the term
for which material in this vicinity was "coke breeze." He main-
tained that when the question came to a matter of saving in fuel,
there was nothing in the statements which had been made in regard
to low-priced fuel for steam which showed that any material Avas so
cheap as this " coke breeze," which, he said, was formerly bought for
about two cents a bushel. He thought that some of the figures which
had been given as to the cost ol' I'uel were what might be called
" pretty stiff prices " for poor florists to pay for material for firing
their green-houses. In conclusion, he suggested that, while in large
establishments steam might have some advantages, hot water was
preferable in the smaller establishments, which were more numerous.
Mr. J. D. Car]\iody, of Indiana, said he disliked to be like a jack-
in-a-box, bobbing up every second or two, but there was somebody all
the time pulling the string, and he couldn't help it! He continued:
I want to state right here that not a single one of the hot- water advo-
cates here has tested hot water to its utmost caiDabilities, whereas the
other side have brought steam down to the ver}^ finest point. No
florist here, I am sorry to say, has had hot water under pressure, and
that is something with which florists should have some familiaritv.
Do not do away with a system until you have got out of it all that
is in it, and you have not really begun with hot water. Put hot water
under pressure, and we will have every advantage that you claim for
steam, and two or three more.
Mr. Peter Henderson here interrogated Mr. Carmody with a view
to having that gentleman fix, definitely, at what temperature he would
Avork hot-water pipes under x)ressure. He continued : The gentleman
complains that the steam-pij)e endangers the health of the plant be-
cause it is heated at too high a temperature.
Mr. Carmody : The gentleman is mistaken.
Mr. Henderson and others : We understand that that statement
was made in the paper read bj^ you.
Mr. Carmody : My statement was that you were compelled to have
a high temperature when only a low temi^erature was necessary.
Now, let me explain for one moment. We will say that for a cool
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day in the fall, we need a little heat. In order to get any at all when
using steam, you are obliged to heat your feed-water from 212° to
215°, and your heating pipes have to register from 212° to 215° through
their circulation. Now, with hot water under pressure you can heat
your feed-water to 100°. Your pipes, at the same time, are throwing
out heat from a basis of 100° all through the house — that being a low,
mild temperature. You can increase that heat then, and make it just
as high as you please. Consequently, the temperature you maintain
in your pipes and boiler is regulated bj'' your own will and desire.
Of course, if it is colder out of doors, it is colder in your house, and
you want a higher temperature in your pipes. I would run my pipe
according to the demand, from its normal condition, or from 50° up
to as high as 257° ; and you can keep your fjipes right there at that.
Mr. Peter Henderson: I would any that, in practical operation,
that would be a very difficult thing to do. If the pipe was under your
own personal supervision and j^ou were watching it, that might be done;
but if you had to leave it to others, it is not likely that it would be
done. My green-houses, the great bulk of them, are heated by hot
water, and we have them regulated so that if we want 40° of heat, we
place four pipes in a twenty-foot house ; if we want 50°, we place six
pipes in a house of tlie same dimensions, and if we want 60°, we place
eiglit pipes in the house. Consequently, the fireman would have
nothing to do but to keej) up his jfires — the temperature would regu-
late itself by the amount of pipe placed in each house.
Mr. J. D. Carmody : You regulate your temperature hj the open
tank system, just as you do with the pressure system, so far as the
hot water is concerned. Now, do you raise those jjipes, on a mild fall
day, to the same temperature that you have when the thermometer
is down to zero ?
Mr. Peter Henderson : Certainly not ; but the fireman regulates
that, because the pipes are there graded to suit the temperature we
want.
Mr. J. D. Carmody : When you start to heat the pipes, you have not
the same temperature that you have after the fire has been going fou
or five hours. Consequently, during that time your pipes will registe
all of the intermediate degrees. One night you may not run the
temperature over 150° — the next night it is cold, and you run the
same pipe up to 180°.
Mr. Jordan : Perhaps the discussion has gone as far as may be de-
sirable, but, as there is some little misunderstanding in regard to the
terms used here, I would like to add a word. Water boils at 212° at
the ocean's level — that is, a pressure of fourteen pounds to the square
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inch of atmospheric pressure. When tliere is more pressure than
the atmospheric pressure, then you increase the degrees of heat in
proportion to the pressure that is put on the water. There is such a
thing as heating water so hot that it will dissolve lead. The sugges-
tion seems to have been made by one of the speakers here that water
could not be heated above 212°, and must boil there. That, how-
ever, is not the fact, because you can keep the pressure down on water
so as to rise to 300° or 400°, but it takes an immense i)ressure. I am
running my boilers with a pressure of eight pounds to the square inch,
and I do it by having the water elevated in the tank, by giving it
about seventeen feet of an elevation, which produces a pressure on
the boiler. By that I am enabled to carry the water two hundred
and twenty-five feet through the green-houses, coming into the ex-
pansion tank at the boiling point. That is when the pressure is taken
off. There is the advantage of having water under pressure, and you
can continue to put that pressure on. If you have the same pressure
in hot water that you have in steam, when your pipes are filled, you
will have the same heat. Water will take up the heat, because the
steam cannot be any hotter than the water from which it is imparted.
Mr. J. H. Taylor : In heating by steam, we do not increase the heat
by raising or lowering the temperature in the boiler, but by increas-
ing or decreasing the number of radiating pipes in the green-house.
From two to five pounds' pressure at the boilers is all that is required
to properly circulate steam at low pressure.
Mr. Joseph Tailby, of Mass., remarked that, as between the two,
he thought that in a large establishment, where it was necessary to
keep an eye to fires, steam might be cheaper. He suggested the
thought, in connection with this view, that while all the garden men
were attending this convention to-day, a sudden change in the atmos-
phere might send the thermometer down to zero to-night. He re-
marked that florists wanted to manage their green-houses with the
least amount of fuel, and at the same time with safety, so that they
could go to bed at a reasonable hour at night. (At this point, owing
to temporary confusion, the speaker's remarks were inaudil)le at the
reporter's seat. He was understood to detail a method which he had
originated and made practical in heating his green-house.)
The President said that the last five minutes of the time for the
discussion would be utilized by Mr. Fowler.
Mr. A. B. Fowler, of Exeter, N. H., said he professed to know
something on the subject, as he had started in steam-heating when
engaged in the green-house business. He felt, however, that he could
say he was not Avholly an advocate of steam ; that certainly he would
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123
as gladly sell to the trade machines for hot water use as he would
machines in which steam was to be used. His purpose, he said, at
this time, was to correct what he regarded as erroneous statements
upon several points in the essay read by the gentleman from Indiana,
Mr. Carmody. That gentleman had stated that an air-valve was re-
quired on each pipe, when his statement should have been that an
air-valve was required on each nest of pipes.
Mr. Carmody here remarked that the statement he had made was,
as stated, with reference to a nest of pipes.
Mr. Fowler went on to say, in reference to Mr. Carmody's state-
ment, that in the use of steam in green-houses, it was necessary to
keep an engineer, that if the opinion of florists accustomed to heating
by steam was consulted, their reply to that statement would show that
they disagreed with the gentleman from Indiana. He continued :
Water boils under atmosplieric pressure, as we all know, at 212° —
that is, at the level. Of course this varies at an altitude. When you
go up on a mountain, you liave to apply greater pressure for cooking
purposes. The gentleman from Indiana did not tell us, and I did not
ask him, whether the point was higher or lower at an altitude such as
that. You have in steam at no indicated pressure a sensible heat of
212° ; but what is the ditference between hot water at 212° and steam
at 212° ? The difference is these 966°. Gentlemen have been talking
about latent heat, and let me say to them that in that latent heat is
contained the most of the heat that you get in your green-houses when
you heat them by steam ; and when you extract that latent heat the
steam goes back into water again. The question with respect to keep-
ing up a fire has been covered by others. As to the question of cast-
iron and wrought-ivon boilers, it need only be said, perhaps, that
when you pay your monej'' you take your choice. Tlie gentleman
from Indiana (Mr. Carmody) told us about the flowers blooming in the
spring and fall, but did not say anything about the roses that bloom in
July, except to ask if flowers grew in the hot July sun. In Massa-
chusetts they do, and that is what is called summer blooming.
Mr. Carmody (liumorously) : In Labrador tliey bloom better in July
than in any other month, I suppose.
Mr. Fowler: The gentleman probably knows the fact; I do not,
as I never was there. So far as steam-heating is concerned, I went
into it many years ago, and the gentlemen here from Boston probably
recollect that I fought hard for steam. I was told that I was wasting
my money, but I persisted, and was successful. I have followed it up
ever since then, and you see where it is to-day.
The President : Since making the announcement that the discus-
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sion would close ^Yith the remarks of Mr. Fowler, the Chair has been
apprised of a general desire to hear from a gentleman of known prac-
tical experience on the steam side of the question — Mr. H. M. Smith,
of New York, manager of the Wilson Boiler Company — who is now
cordially invited to take the floor.
Mr. H. M. Smith, of New" York, responded : During an experience
of twenty years, it has been my fortune to encounter nearlj^ every
question that has been suggested in connection with steam or hot-
water circulation ; and this is especially true of recent years, since I
have been endeavoring to determine the best plan of "remodeling"
for the adoption of the street system controlled by the New York
Steam Company, in buildings situated on the line of their pipes. As
a matter of fact, there are points about the street sj'stem which, if
they could be adopted in green-house warming, would discount, in
absolute superiority, all the advantages claimed for any man's boiler
for eitlier purpose. Of course, it is impracticable to warn;i a green-
house in Indiana with steam generated in the city of New York, not
because we could not send tlie steam out there, but because to do that
would cost too much, and it would be cheaper to use a local boiler.
In regard to diflerent temperatures and economy of heating by the
different methods, I have to sa}' that I think the gentleman from In-
diana (i\Ir. Carmody) is correct in his statement as to the temperature
of hot water under pressure. There is no doubt that hot water can be
raised to the temperature of steam, due to any pressure that you may
care to adopt, if your boiler is in the hands of an experienced engi-
neer. But if you do raise hot water to the temperature of steam by
placing it under a pressure, you at once create a different state of cir-
cumstances. It will then be necessary to increase the cost of your
hot-water plant, because you must increase the strength of that plant.
If 3"ou place that pressure at ten pounds, for instance, you increase
the temj)erature and the exx)ansive force of the water, also the expan-
sion of the pipes, due to the increased temperature of the metal.
What, then, will become of your packed joints which have been made
by this cheap labor, and what becomes of the argument that a hot-
water boiler can be handled by such cheap labor? If, after jou have
put the hot water under pressure, you get a temperature which is the
same as that of steam, what becomes of the claim that hot water is
preferable because its temperature is not as high as that of steam ?
I fail to see any difference l)etween the temperature of a pipe warmed
b}' hot water and one heated by steam where the pressure is the same
in both cases. If you pass fire through that pipe, the external effect, or
the effect upon the surface of the iron, is the same at even tempera-
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ture. The idea that the exterior of a Avater or steam-pipe is more
moist than it would be if heated by some agent other than hot water
or steam is a mistaken one.
With respect to the point raised on the hot water side of the ques-
tion, viz : that the temperature of your apparatus is not liable to fluc-
tuate during sudden changes of the external atmosphere, I would say
merely that you do not depend, either in the case of hot water or
steam, upon the temperature of the metal for the* accomplishment of
that result. When you heat the air of the apartment, the tempera-
ture of the atmosphere of that apartment is affected by the circula-
tion of the heated air through that room. The table of figures from
which the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Peter Henderson) has
quoted partially demonstrates this fact, as it shows that at two inches
from the iron a diff'erence of only two degrees is apparent, and that,
at a distance of sixteen inches, you have the same temperature in
either case. Indeed, if 3'our plants were to be placed in direct con-
tact with the coils, no substantial difference in result would be per-
ceptible, so far as concerns the means by which those coils are heated.
A knowledge of the principles of circulation is indispensable in
dealing with heating apparatus, and it seems to me tliat the essayists
upon either side are, to say the least, arguing from a lack of familiarity
with the facts. Indeed, the trouble has been that users of steam and
hot water, taking the average of them — like our good friend from
Cincinnati, (Dr. Hawes,) who wanted to heat his house and thought
he had but two ways of doing it — are not sufficiently well informed
upon the subject. If those Avho introduce the hot- water system into
a house have not a thorough knowledge of the principles governing
its operation and can exercise no intelligent supervision over it, ob-
jections to it will naturally arise that will cause it to be condemned.
The same observation may be made where steam is introduced with-
out proper attention being given to the areas of pipes. If you use a
boiler of a certain construction, (and being myself a manufacturer of
a boiler. I am not disjjosed to take advantage of this opportunity to
criticize any particular method of construction,) you are obliged to
rely upon the quality of the draft for a large part of the effectiveness
of the apparatus. In this respect, the advocate of tlie hot-water
boiler has an advantage, because the entire principle upon which
a hot-water boiler is constructed is to present a horizontal surface
upon which the fire will radiate, ajid which will afford the most
efficient medium for taking advantage of the radiant heat of the fire.
That is the instrumentality to which reference is made when it is
claimed that you can rely upon hot water because you get certain re-
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suits after the fire becomes low. Every hot- water boiler of which I
know anything is constructed on that basis. I heard a gentleman ar-
guing, in conversation, this morning, on the advantage of a boiler of
fifteen feet in length, but the only object to be attained by that con-
struction, in my judgment, is to cause the heat to keep circulating
under that horizontal surface, thereby utilizing all the radiation from
the fire that is possible, because, as you know, heat is radiated from
the fuel in all directions so long as combustion goes on, be it ever so
slowly. In other words, my claim is this : that the success of either
system depends largel}", first, upon the area of pipe, and then upon
the fire surface exposed to radiation from the body of fuel. If the
boiler is not defective and the apparatus is so constructed that you
can get the best results upon either principle, it will then be time for
you to begin to argue as to the relative economy of the two. I ques-
tion much whether any gentleman here has a steam apparatus in one
house and a hot-water apparatus in another, upon the practical work-
ings of wliich a test can be fairly based which will show the relative
economy' of the two.
Mr. Peter Hend.erson, of Jersey City, N. J. : It was with that ob-
ject in view that I constructed the two houses, in which I placed
steam and hot water boilers respectively, as I have already stated,
and I have given the results of that experiment.
Mr. Smith : I beg pardon. I did not understand that the gentle-
man had made the test. I Avill not occupy the time longer, as it was
not my intention to make any remarks, but simply to hear what
others, having practical experience with the subject of green-house
warming as florists, had to say upon it. It seems to me that both
sides have presented good points, and that these could be fairly gath-
ered by some one competent to compile them from the two essays,
and from the stenographic report of this discussion. In tliis way a
paper might be prepared, which would be of inestimable value to this
association.
(At this point, the audience manifested its appreciation of the re-
marks to which it had listened with evident satisfaction by a tumult
of applause.)
On motion of Mr. E. G. Hill, of Indiana, the thanks of the Society
were tendered to Mr. Smith, by a unaniiuous vote, for " his able and
disinterested exposition of the relative advantages of steam and hot
water."
Mr. Henry A. Siebrecht (being allowed two minutes) said that he
proposed to speak for both sides of the question. He tliought that
the weight of the argument in the discussion which had just taken
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 127
place was slightly in favor of steam as against hot water. Mr. Hen-
derson had iDroved by facts that in the use of steam he had saved coal.
While conceding as true all that has been said in behalf of steam, Mr.
Siebrecht advised those who had introduced hot water apparatus into
their places at great expense not to discard its use, but to proceed
cautiously. For one, he was satisfied with hot water, but he thought
that parties who were about to open new places and purchase new
heating plants should give steam a trial. If starting on a small scale,
it might be well for them to take the safer way , and purchase a little
hot water boiler.
Mr. David Cliffe, of Philadelphia, submitted a motion as follows :
" That it is the sense of this meeting that in this discussion it has been
shown that steam combines more advantages than hot water."
Mr. D. D. L. Farson, of Philadelphia, in opposition to the motion,
said he thought that at i)i'esent the convention was not qualified to
give an indorsement to any scheme which had not been fairly tested
to the satisfaction of all, as such an indorsement would have an effect
to mislead many florists when contemplating improvements. He
hoped that Mr. Cliff"e's motion would be voted down, as the Society,
he thought, has not prepared to give an unqualified indorsement to
either scheme.
Mr. Cliffe replied that he had made his motion for the reason that
he thought the opinion of the convention was preferable to that of an
individual or a nural)er of individuals acting separately.
Mr. Peter Henderson : I would move to amend tlie motion so as to
make it read that, in the opinion of the association, hot water is pre-
ferable to steam in all cases where the construction is under five thou-
sand square feet of glass ; and that where a construction is to be made
exceeding five thousand feet of glass steam is the better.
A Delegate : That is a mere expression of opinion. I think the
convention should be careful not to adopt mere individual opinions.
We want not opinions, but facts.
Mr. J. D. Carmody : At this time it would be impossible to secure
more than a minority vote upon any proposition as a majority of the
members of the convention have retired from the hall.
Mr. H. M. Smith, of New York city : I would like to make a sug-
gestion. As a member of the convention, it seems to me that the
time has not arrived for expressing the sense of the body on this sub-
ject. I think we have been feeling around a little, and have attained
some good results. I make the suggestion — if any one will put it in
, the form of a motion, I would be glad to hear it — that, instead of ex-
pressing an opinion at this time, we declare it to be the sense of the
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convention tliat we are all deeply interested in the subject, but have
not squeezed the lemon dry by any means ! Therefore, in order that
we may have more light on the subject, and more "juice," I move
that a committee of three be appointed by the Chair, to select an ex-
pert in the matter of green-house lieating, whose duty it shall be to
prepare an essay, to be delivered before this convention at our next
annual meeting.
Mr. Robert Kift, of Philadelphia, by way of suggesting the desir-
ableness of precautionary measures against accidents in the jji-elimi-
nary work attending the introduction of steam-heating apparatus into
green-houses, narrated an incident in his own experience, in which,
when putting in a boiler, his father had been obliged to excavate the
ground to a depth of some fifteen feet. On the morning after the ex-
cavation had been completed, the hole thus made was found to have
become one third filled with earth, from the caving in of the sides.
The speaker remarked that if the accident had occurred in the day-
time, while the work was progressing, some of the men employed in
the work of excavation would probably have been killed. He said he
mentioned the circumstance for the information of florists engaging
in similar operations, and suggested that the proper course in such,
cases was to shore the hole up.
The convention here proceeded to vote, when (Mr. Cliff"e's motion
having been withdraAvn) the motion of Mr. II. M. Smith was adopted
without objection.
GENERAL BUSINESS.
Mr, H. A. SiEBRECiiT, of New Rochelle, New York, moved that the
Chair be authorized to appoint a committee of two upon the best
method of glazing, the committee to report to this convention.
Adopted without objection, and Messrs. H. A. Siebrecht and P. R,
Quinlan were constituted the committee,
Mr, William K, Harris, of Philadelphia, moved that the treasurer
of the Society of American Florists be directed to defray expenses of
the Executive Committee incurred in attending the meetings of the
Society,
Mr. David Cliffe : The traveling expenses, do you mean ?
Mr. Harris : Yes, sir.
Adopted without dissent.
Mr. D. D. L. Parson, of Philadelphia, moved that the President be
authorized to appoint a committee of two to make a practical test of
the merits of the fumigators now on exhibition, and to report the re-
SOCIETY OF AMEKICAK FLORISTS. 129
suit of their labors in the columns of The Amevican Florist at as
early a day as possible.
Adopted without objection.
Mr. D. D. L. Farson moved tlie appointment of a committee of
three, whose duty shall be to examine into the merits of any insecti-
cide that may be offered for consideration, and decide whether the
same possesses the qualities claimed for it, with power to grant a cer-
tificate from the Society of American Florists, stating the facts in re-
gard to such insecticide.
Adopted without objection.
Tlie President stated that he would defer the appointment of the
committee just mentioned until opportunity had been afforded him
to determine upon its membership.
Mr. D. D. L. Farson, of Philadelphia, here said : The Keystone
Male Quartette Company, of Philadelphia, accompanied us yesterday
to Mr. Childs' place, and, while there, entertained us with vocal music.
I move, therefore, that the convention tender its tlianks to the Key-
stone Male Quartette Company, of Philadelphia, for its kindness in
rendering its services on the occasion referred to.
Mr, J. C. Vaughan, of Cliicago, suggested the reference of Mr. Far-
son's motion to the Committee on Final Eesolutions, in order tliat it
might be included with matters of similar import upon which the
committee was expected to report.
(The reference was made as suggested.)
Mr. Walter F. Fancourt remarked that, in the discussions of the
convention, many subjects had been comparatively ignored which he
thought were entitled to precedence, and tliat the time had been
mainly occupied in considering two or three specialties. He submit-
ted a motion reciting this fact, and proposing the appointment of a
committee of three to ascertain whether the reason for it was to be
found in the diffidence of the florists, or a lack of appreciation by the
public.
A vote being taken, twenty-two gentlemen arose in the affirmative,
and thirty-seven in the negative ; therefore, the motion was not agreed
to.
Mr. F. H. iJMiLLMAN, of Cumberland, Maryland : There is a small
matter on the programme Avhich has either not been thought of, or
willfully neglected. I refer to the matter of dry flues. At different
points in our sessions, one or two gentlemen wanted to speak upon it,
and one did attempt to speak. I move that the rules be suspended,
and remarks be permitted on that question.
Tlie President: The subject is quite in order. Mr. Thorpe informs
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130 PEOCELDINGS OF SECOND CON'S ENTION.
me that he has a communication upon that very matter, and would like
to read it. It will only take a moment or two. The subject will now
be considered.
Mr. John Thokpe : The statement which I would like to make is tliis:
Mr. Hamilton, of Allegheny City, Pennsylvania, was instructed to
give us a paper on the subject of "How to Build a Flue." On yes-
terday^ morning, I received a letter from him, sajdng that his family
was sufl'ering from quite a severe sickness, and that it was impossible
for him to leave home ; that as it was not Ins custom to commit any-
thing to paper until the last moment, he had not prepared anything;
and we would have to get along without a paper on the subject.
On motion of Mr. H. A. Siebreciit, ten minutes were Iiere appro-
priated for the purpose of hearing remarks by gentlemen present on
the question of flues.
Mr. xVntoine Wintzer, of West Grove, Pennsylvania, said he would
feel that he had been x)ersonally derelict if he failed to make a few
remarks before the adjournment in regard to the much despised flue or
hot-air apparatus, or whatever it might be called. It was the motive
power used by our fathers, and he claimed it furnished the foundation
of the florists' business. Years ago, when steam was not applied to
the heating of green-houses, when very few hot-water apparatuses
were in use, the operator, here and there over the country, Avho had
but small capital, built his flue and raised his few plants. The flne
was dropped. Why? Because builders of flues generally made a
botch of their work. The fault was not in the flue, but in the l)uilder
of it. The speaker' asserted that he could prove that plants could l)e
grown to-day with the old flue in successful competition with hot
water or steam apparatus, and that he had the facts to prove this. He
said he was handling to-day sixty green-houses, every one of which is
heated by a flue, there being sixty flues. He held that it was the
matter of labor required which had driven flues out of general use,
and asserted that it did not take very much more labor to run a sec-
tion by flues than was required by any other means. In the establish-
ment with which he is connected, the fires could be made up. in ordi-
nary winter w^eather, at five o'clock in the evening, and then left
without watching or attendance until seven o'clock the next morning.
They were growing roses to-day in competition with all other estab-
lishments that were heated by means of the improved systems. If
the system of which he spoke proved a failure, he \Vould be willing to
be held to some responsibility, but if it held its own with other estab-
lishments, he would want to have some credit for it. Others, besides
those connected with his establishment, were interested in the matter.
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 131
as, he claimed, it was one which concerned every small florist through-
out the length and breadth of the land. Everybody engaged in the
business of growing flowers who did not have thousands of dollars of
capital at his command was interested in it. To those people he Avould
say that nothing would give them the advantages which they would
secure in the use of the old flue with its improvements. A green-
house could be built and completed with a flue at far less expense
than with any other modern heating apparatus. In 1875, he (speak-
ing for the Dingee & Conard Company) reconstructed a section of
houses that had been heated with hot water, and substituted flues in the
place of the hot-water apparatus. The speaker claimed that he could
heat a larger area of glass by the flue system than by the hot-Avater
system. If an advance had been made in the latter, and none in the
flues, that fact was no fault of the flue, but the fault of the American
public in neglecting to appreciate the capacity of the flue, and the
utility of dry-air heating.
Mr. WiNTZER added that his establishment had four workmen, but
no night watchman, and had never sufl"ered from fire or from gas.
(The ten minutes here expired.)
Mr. SiEBRECiiT sugge'sted tliat permission be given to Mr. Wintzer
to prepare his views on the point at greater length for publication.
Mr. A. Gallup, of Denver, Colorado, here called attention to the
motion which had been adopted in regard to defraying the expenses
of the Executive Committee. He stated that a great deal of work de-
volved on the committee, and quite a heavy expense was entailed
upon them in preparing for the annual meetings. He did not tldnk
that the honor conferred upon them by their positions was a sufficient
recompense for them. He therefore moved that, in addition to an
allowance for mileage, the members of the Executive Committee be
allowed necessary hotel expenses when preparing programmes for the
annual meetings of the convention.
Mr. David Cliffe asked if an estimate could be given of the prob-
able amount of the expenses. He said he thought the Society ought
to know what expenses had been incurred.
The President explained that the object was not to defray expenses
already incurred, but to provide for the necessary outlay incident to
any meeting the Executive Committee might be obliged to hold in
the coming year.
Mr. Gallup : That is the idea.
The President : The author of the motion can have no basis upon
which to form an estimate, for it is not yet known where the meeting
will be held.
132 PEOCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
The motion of Mr. Gallup was adopted without objection.
Mr. H. M. Smith, of New York city : I wish to modify amotion which
was adopted upon my suggestion, so that the same shall provide that
the committee appointed l\y the Chair to secure the services of an ex-
pert, who is to make a report to the convention next year on the
matter of lieating, shall be authorized to expend such sum as they
may think i^roper in securing the service of such expert. I would
suggest that the committee will not find an expert who will be willing
to devote his time to the service of this association unless paid for it.
The motion of Mr. Smith was adopted by an unanimous vote.
GENERAL BUSINESS.
Mr, H. A. SiEBRECiiT : In order to get through with the business. I
move that all reports on exhibits, as well as other reports which have
not been offered or read, be received ; tliat the reading of them be dis-
pensed with, and tliat they be printed in the pamphlet report of this
meeting.
The President (replying to an incpiiry) : The motion does not in-
clude the report of the Committee on Final Ilesolutions.
Tlie motion of Mr. Siel)recht was adopted by a unanimous vote.
The President (replying to a suggestion, to which no objection was
heard, that the report of the Committee on Final Resolutions be includ-
ed among the reports provided for in the motion just adopted) said:
If there is no objection, then the report of the Committee on Final Reso-
lutions will be printed with the other reports.
The suggestion of the Chair was generally assented to, and the re-
port of the Committee on Resolutions is here inserted. It is as follows :
Resolmd, That tlie Society of American Florists extend its thanks
to Miss Schaeiler and Mr. J, E. Mitchell for the use of Horticultural
Hall, in which was held the convention. And to the Florists' Club of
Philadelphia we extend our most grateful thanks for the royal way that
we have been entertained, but while fully appreciating its great kind-
ness and attention, that has involved so mucli labor and expense, we
most earnestly trust that this kind attention should not be taken as a
precedent for future conventions, and that at the meeting to be held
in Chicago, next August, the delegates there will best please those of
the Society in general by an entire omission of these courtesies.
Resolved^ Tliat the members of the Society of American Florists
render their most hearty thanks to Mr. George W. Childs for the spon-
taneous and most princely hospitality which we have received at his
hands.
SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FLORISTS. 133
Resolved^ That, knowing that the Society of American Florists, noAV
a solid success, was the inception of its retiring president — Mr. John
Thorpe — who, despite great opposition from many members of the
Nurserymen's and Seedmen's dissociation, determinedly sowed the
seed that has now become such a fruitful tree, deserves in the highest
degree our most hearty thanks for the time so generously given, and
the great ability so markedly displayed in bringing the work to such
a high degree of success.
Resolved., That the thanks of the members of the Society of Ameri-
can Florists be tendered to our retiring secretary, Mr. E. G. Hill, to
whom, more than any other, is due to-day the credit, and the honor,
and the success we all enjoy, and it is only because of his early and
positive declaration not to be able to further serve that he was not
unanimously re-nominated and consequently re-elected.
Resolved., That a vote of thanks be extended to Mr. Adolph Le Moult
for the novel and instructive entertainment which he alforded the dele-
gates in his practical address and performance of " How to Arrange
Cut Flowers," etc. Also, a vote of thanks to the Y. M. C. A. for the
kind invitation extended to us to visit their rooms and to partake of
the benefits, etc.
To the managers of the Girard College and Mr. Huster, superin-
tendent of the grounds, for tlie invitation to visit and examine all that
is worthy of our inspection at tliat monumental institution.
To the directors and superintendent of the Zoological Gardens for
their generous invitation to visit this instructive institution.
To the Union League Club, of Philadelphia, for the kind invitation
to visit its building and partake of its hospitalities, which, from the
active and unsparing support which its members rendered to the cause
of liberty, which is extended at all times by its members, is gratefully
acknowledged by your committee.
Peter Henderson,
John H. Taylor.,
W. J. Stewart.
On motion, it was agreed that the president appoint a committee of
three to make a practical test of the "■ Excelsior Fumigator," said com-
mittee to report through the columns of The American Florist as soon
as possible. The Chair appointed as this committee Messrs. D. D. L.
Farson, John Savage, and David Beam.
On motion, it was agreed that a committee be appointed to thor-
oughly test any insecticide that maybe brought before them, and said
committee to have the power to grant a certificate to any insecticide
134 PROCEEDINGS OF SECOND CONVENTION.
that may be found to be worthy of it. The Chair appointed as this
committee Messrs. W. K. Harris, Fifty-fifth street and Woodbind
avenue, Phibidelphia, and George Anderson, Fifty-third street and
Woodland avenue, Phibidelphia.
[Note by the Secretary. — AVhen insecticides are sent to the com-
mittee for trial, the express charges must in all cases be ^''paid through
to destination f otherwise they will not be received.]
Mr. H. A. Siebrecht moved, and the motion was duly seconded,
that a committee be appointed to test and report on the value of J.
M. Gasser's system of glazing; whereupon President Craig stated
that he would undertake to make the necessary trial, and w^ould re-
port in due time.
On motion, the convention adjourned until 1887 — the time of re-
convening to be jfixed by the Executive Committee.
Edwin Lonsdale, Secretary^
Chestnut Hill^ Philadelphia^ Pa.
APPENDIX.
I. THE QUESTION BOX, WITH ANSWERS.
The various questions found in the box during the hist hours of tlie conven-
tion are here presented, witli answers thereto.
1. David CLiFFEasks : What varieties of carnations does Mr. Tailby recom
mend to grow ?
[A}iswer: Grace Wilder, Fred. Johnson, Princess Loicise.]
2. What would be the cost of the design made by Mr. LeMoult at present
(August 20) New York prices ?
[Aijswer: $35 to $50.]
3. Is it profitable to force lilies of the valley early in the season ?
[Answer: No; although the price per spray may be higher, in the fore part of
December the risk of getting a good crop is mucli greater.— J. II.]
4. Can Dutch bulbs be grown profitably in the low lands of the South for
wholesale purposes ?
["Observer" says: "The soil about Jacksonville, Ga., seems identical with
the Holland sand." "Observer" also saw offsets that had been grown into
flowering bulbs in one season, in Florida.]
5. How can the rose Iler Majesty be prevented from attacks of mildew ?
[Answer: No positive preventive, up to the present time, has been found.
To keep it under glass all summer, with fire heat nearly all the time at niglit,
might be tried, with lots of sulphur on tlie pipes.— J. N. M.]
6. My benches in a green-house are infested with a small white ant. It
likes moisture, and eats away the wood so as to make a bench too weak to hold
plants witliiu one year. It enters the pots at the bottom, eats the roots off
geraniums, and ruins them. It is believed that tliey were introduced with plants
that were imported. Can any member speak from experience as to wliat will rid
my place of them ?
[Answer: The best of all remedies for the destruction of mites and ants is
crude petroleum. Put it on the benches thickly with a paint brusli. — J. Thorpe.]
7. Since last year, a green metallic bug eats all tlie leaves of tlie fuchsia in
a desperate manner. What is the name of it, and what the remedy V
[Answer : According to Professor Riley, this fuchsia pest belongs to the flea
beetles, and is scientifically know as Graptodcra carinata (family Chrysomelidce.)
Pyrethrum not only numbed them, but kept them off tlie plant. Paris green was
tried, but it did little or no good.]
9. How many feet of four-inch pipe is required in a carnation house contain-
ing about 750 square feet of glass in latitude iOV-" V The house runs east and
west, and is between two other houses. — Strauch Bros.
[Answer : One hundred and fifty feet of four-inch pipe, with a butterfly valve
to regulate. -J. D. Carmody.]
136 APPENDIX.
8. What is the best remedy for black beetle, "wliich is so destructive to
dahlias and asters when in bloom? They seem to be worse in the Ohio valley
than anywhere else.
[Ansn-er : Specimens of the insect complained of were sent to the United
States Department of Agriculture, and a i-eply was received as follows :
United States Depautmkxt of Agriculture,
Division of Entomology,
Washington, D. C, August 28, 18S6.
In the absence of Professor Riley, I be<? to acknowledge the receipt of yours of
yesterday, accompanied by beetles injuring your CMiina asters. These. are speci-
inens of "the common Peinisylvania blister beetle [EiAcauta Pennsijlvanica.) The
habit which this beetle has of destroying Cliina asters is very well known in this
city, and for whicli tliere seems to be almost no remedy. Florists here kill the
beetles l)y hand, using for tliis purpose a pair of llat-bladed wooden sliears.
(Jare should be taken in crushing the beetle not to get the juices of the body on
the naked skin, as their vesicating properties are very strou'x— so strong in fact
that if a sutlicient number could be gatliered tliey would really have some com-
mercial value in the manufacture of " Uy-blisters."
Yours truly,
L. O. KOWAKD,
Assistant in charge.
II. REPORT OF COMMITTEE TO AMEND BY-LAWS.
The committee appointed on motion of Mr. J. N. May to amend the by-laws
of the Society, tiie object being to change the day of meeting in convention, and
also to look into the matter of conducting the business of tlie convention with-
out interruption until completed, respectfully submit the following additional
by-law :
Article 5.— This Society sliall hold an annual meeting, commencing on the
third Tuesday in August^ and continuing three days, unless the business before
tiie meeting cannot be fniisiied in tliat time, when tlie time may be extended by
consent of two tliirds of members .i)resent.
Tlie convention shall liold tiiree sessions each day uninterruptedly, until the
business of tlie Society be completed, and no local committee, nor the officers of
the Society, shall have power to set aside this by-law, except as provided in sec-
tion eight.
(Signed) J- ^- May,
E. G. Hill,
- J. C. Vaughan,
Comntittee.
III. REPORT OF COMMITTEES OX EXHIBITS.
The various committees appointed (see page 26) to make awards on exhibits
have reported, up to the time of going to press, as follows :
REPOKT OF COMMITTEE ON PLANTS AND BULBS.
E. D. SrURTEVANT, Bordentown, X. J.— One of the leading features of the
convention and most interesting exhibits, was tlip disjilay of aquatics made by
this gentleman. It occupied two tanks; one was filled with the foliage and up-
wards of one hundred blooms of the "Sacred Egyptian Lotus," [Ifehimbium
specioswn.) In the other tank, was a leaf of the Victoria Regia, which was about
five feet in diameter, and a bloom measuring about twelve inches. There were
also the showy M gmphea Bevonieusis, Zanzihariensis, azarea, and rosea, (the pink
" Cape Cod pond lily,") and a variety of other water plants.
APPENDIX. 137
Craig & Brother, of Pliiladelphia, exhibited a rave and interesting collec-
tion of ferns, among whicli were Pkitycerum JEthiopicum, and Actinopteris ra-
diata, together with fine palms and crotons.
Charles D. Ball, Holmesburg, Pa., exhibited an interesting collection of
ferns, which included Adianhon Seemanii and A. Rhombnidi'inum.
SiEBRECHT & Wadley, of ISTew llochelle, N. Y., showed a few fine speci-
meiis of orchids — Cditleya gigas, Saunderiana^ and Cattleya Speciosum, wliich
attracted considerable attention.
Ernest Asmus, of Union Hill, N'. J., made a novel exhibit in blooming tulips,
lilies of the valley, and miniature lilac bushes. Thes? are tilings rarely seen in
August, and proved to be, as they deserved, one of the most instructive and in-
teresting displays on exliibition.
David Fergusson & Soxs, Laurel Hill Xursery, Philadeli)hia, exhibited a
choice collection of rare plants, amongst which were Alocasia ISanderianat
Dieffenbachia Siemanii and Araulia Kerchoviana.
The Dingee & Conard Company, of West Grove, Pa., exliibited a collec-
tion of healtliy liybrid perpetual and tea roses in two and a half inch pots.
Den YS ZiRNGiEREL, Ncedham, Mass., exhibited a collection of i)ink and white
pearl Asters.
A. Blanc, of Pliiladelpliia, exhibited a large and superior collection of cacti,
in whicli were over four hundred species or distinct varieties, the most of which
were of esi)ecial merit. The Agave Victoria lirgina is probably as fine a speci-
men as there is in this country.
CiiARtLES Fox, of Pliiladelphia, exhibited two fine specimens of Bilbergia
rosea.
SciiuLTiiEis Bros., College Point, N. Y., showed a collection of strong budded
roses.
A. Warne, Philadelphia, exhibited some fine blue Hydrangeas.
David Clikfe, of Germantown, Pa., had an Abutilon with variegated foliage,
which attracted some attention. The same exhibitor also had a grand specimen
l)lant of Awaucaria iiubricata. and a variegated Begonia.
J. KiFT & Son, of Philadelphia, exhibited a novel fern jianel, wdiich is very
useful, and when filled with growing plants, as these were, it is very beautiful.
Henry A. Dreer, of Pliiladeli)hia, made a fine display of Gloxinias in full
bloom, and of tuberous-rooted Begonias. These formed a prominent feature
of the exhibition, as did some well-grown plants of Thrinix Parviflora, and
well-grown pans of Advnitum. In bulbs, the same exhibitor showed four varie-
ties of Lilium, some Paper-White Narcissus, and Freesias.
F. E. McAllister. New Y'ork, had on exhibition fine buUis of Lilium candi-
dum and Harrisli; also Paper- AVhite Narcissus and Freesia bulbs.
J. C. Vaighan, Chicago, had an extra fine exhibit of hyacinths, tulips, nar-
cissus, and Lilium candidam. Some of the varieties of hyacinths were excel,
tionally fine ; noticeable amongst them were Hermann, Norma, Cosmos, Grand
Muitre and Czar Peter. This display was one of the features of the show.
R. J. Halliday,
W. C. Smith,
Walter W. Coles,
James Taplin,
Avery Gallup,
Committee.
138 APPENDIX.
REPORT OF COMMITTEE ON FLORTSTS' REQUISITES AND SUPPLIES.
Exhibit of Edward Jansen, of New York.— A most elegant display of floral
designs and floral baskets, both ancient and modern, embracing many novelties
which are worthy of commendation to the Society, and the committee recom-
mend tliat Mr. Jansen be given the liighest award for artistic taste and tlior-
ongh workuiansliip, as well as for originality of designs.
Tliis committee also recommend a further award to Mr. Jansen for his fine
display of mounted wliite doves, immortelles, letters, and emblems of immor-
telles, monograms, etc.
Exliibit of MaPvSCHuetz & Bacharacii, of PJiiladelpliia.— An extensive dis-
play of straw baskets of all descriptions ; also a fine display of gilt and other
baskets and designs, slieaves of wlieat, colored grasses, immortelles, letters and
emblems of immortelles, bouquet liolders, and bouquet pai)ers. Your committee
recommend a special mention of this very comi>lete disi)lay.
Exhibit of F. E. McAllister, of Xew York. — An extensive and general dis-
play of flower-baskets of various descriptions, and a full supply of grasses, mosses,
immortelles, bouquet papers, and general florists' supplies.
Exliil)it of C S. Ford, Jr., Pliiladelphia: A first-class display of immortelles,
letters, words, and emblems.
Exhibit of A. Heriimann, of New York. — A limited but choice display of
i-amples of fancy and oilier grasses; also wreaths of grasses and everlastings
tastefully arranged. Also, a very fine display of letters, monograms, and em-
blematic designs; and this committee recommend a special award for superior
workmanship.
Exhibit of the Philadelphia Immortelle Design Company.— This exhi-
bit is really superb, and certainly the finest and richest display of funeral and
memorial designs ever exliibited. The committee wishes to call special attention
to the unique and artistic workmanship.
Exhibit of M. M. Bayersdorfer & Co., of Philadelphia. — The largest dis-
play, and a full line of florists' requisites, consisting of willow baskets of all de-
scriptions, w'hite and gilt baskets and stands, straw baskets, sheaves of wheat,
colored and other grasses, immortelles and iiumortelle letters, bouquet holders,
white doves, etc. Your committee wish to call special attention to this exliibit
for the simple and business-like manner in which the various samples were ar-
ranged; and therefore, they commend this business-like method to all future
exhibitors upon like occasions. The committee recommend an award of merit
to Messrs. Bayersdorfer & Co.
Exhibit of Ernst Kaufmann, Pliiladelphia.— A very fine general display of
flower baskets, including some novelties worthy of notice.
Exhibit of Koeiiler Brothers, Nicetown, Pliiladelphia.— A very tasteful
display of white doves and mounted peacocks for florists' use, deserving of special
mention.
W. C. Keck, of Brooklyn, N. Y., exiiibits a complete assortment of immor-
telle letters, inscriptions, and names.
A. T. Cefrey. Boston, Mass., exhibits immortelle letters and inscriptions,
ready for florists' use, of superior workmanship.
The Henderson-Achert Co., Cincinnati, Oiiio, has on exhibition a large
sheet of engravings of various floral designs.
Exhibit of Whilldin'& Co., Philadelphia. — A substantial display of flower-
pots, seed pans, and lianging baskets of pottery. Your committee call the atten-
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139
tion of the Society to rim-pots, and tlie advantages which they have in packing
and nesting.
Exhibit of Jacob C. Cassel, Philadelphia.— A very fine display of imitation
wood pottery or terra-cotta ware, consisting of vases, pedestals, logs, and hang-
ing baskets, fancy flower-pots, window boxes, etc.
Exhibit of A. H. Hews & Co., Xorth Cambridge, Massacluisetts.— Thisis cer-
tainly the best display of natural clay-colored pottery, consisting of novelties in
vases for decorative purposes and cut flowers; also, a fine exhibit of samples of
flower-pots, wliich are higlily recommended for their good finish and their dura-
bility. This committee recommend an award to them of the first order.
Exhibit of Galloway, Graff & Co., Philadelphia.- This is really a hand-
some display of fancy pottery and fine art. In addition to tlie imitation of wood
ware, this firm exhibits the now celebrated "Limoges" ware, and this commit-
tee feel it their duty to recommend an award to this very artistic ware, of a first-
class certificate of the Society, as tliis is the first of this higldy artistic pottery
manufactured in tiiis couiitry. It was. until quite recently, imported from
Europe at fabulous prices. The committee call special attention to this exhibit.
Joseph Kift & Son, of Pliiladelpliia, exhibited a porous fern vase and
bracket, which the committee higlily recommended as a valuable new article,
well adapted for ferns for house culture, and an excellent tiling on which to grow
Platyceriums, etc.
KosE Manufacturing Co., of New York, exhibit a tobacco soap insecticide.
Australian Garden- Wash Co., of New York, also have on exhibition an
assortment of insecticides.
Benjamin Chase, Jr., Derry, N. H., has an exhibit of pot-labels and stakes
of excellent finish.
Eisii & Gibson, Whitney's Point, N. Y., also show insecticides.
H. A. Seibrecht,
Chairman of the Commitiee.
REPORT of committee ON LITHOGRAPHS, PRINTING, ETC.
J. Horace McFarland, of Ilarrisburg, Pa.— This exhibit of printing for
florists' use, catalogues, cards, etc., is of the highest perfection in the art of
printing— clearness, neatness, and artistic display are marked characteristics of
the work, and the illustrations are of a very high order.
Messrs. Beatty & Co., of New York, exhibit a collection of colored litho-
graphs worthy tlie higliest praise, they being especially adapted for florists' use,
while the drawings are remarkably accurate, and the colors true to nature and
happily blended. A collection of chrysanthemums excels anything which has
come under your committee's notice in this art, as regards color, form, and per-
spective, most truly representing the respective flowers they are intended to de-
lineate.
C. L. Allen,
WiLLiA3r F. Dreer.
REPORT of COM3HTTEE ON GREEN-HOUSE STRUCTURES AND APPLIANCES.
Daniel B. Long, of Buffalo, New York, exhibits models of a flower-box for
shipping cut flowers. It is a very perfect box for said purpose, but probably too
costly for extensive use. /
140 APPENDIX.
J. H. Ives. Danbuiy, Connecticut, exliibits a puttying machine, vvhicli your
committee would hesitate to give an opinion about until actual trial had been
given it on a green-house roof.
Williams & Sons, Batavia, Illinois, exhibit a point-driver, in regard to which
your committee hesitates on giving: an opinion without a practical trial.
Herrmann Perlich, 183 Broadway, Baltimore, Maryland, exhibits a furai-
gator. Your committee, while believing it to be a useful article, have found, in
actual practice, owing to the material of which it is made, that it rusts out very
rapidly, and would advise tliat it be made of more durable material.
The Summit Manufacturing Company, Summit, Union county. New
Jersey, exhibits a patent carrier, which may do very well when used for carrying
peaches and baskets; but when applied to flower-pots, we sliould say it was of no
practical value.
J. M. Gasser, Cleveland, Ohio, exhibits a patent zinc joint for glazing, which
your committee believe is well worthy of a trial. He also exhibits an ingenious
contrivance for warning the florist when the temperature of his houses falls too
low.
CAT.EF Manufacturing Company, 293 Broadway, Xew York, exhibits
spades, scoops, and shovels. Your committee, some of which have had a prac-
tical trial with the shovel, but not the spade, have found, though from only a
limited trial, that it possesses no advantage for shoveling puri)oses, and could
not be as useful for digging purposes as the ordinary spading fork. We, how-
ever, would not condemn it without further trial.
The Lockland I^umber Company, of Lockland, Ohio, exhibit specimens of
cypress sash-bars, which are claimed to be very durable.
Egbert T. Ueakin & Co., of Philadelphia, exhibit a good line of brass green-
house syringes and pumps, which are deserving of special mention.
B. F. Goodrich & Co., Akron, Ohio, exhibit rubber hose, suitable for green-
house use, and of excellent quality.
Manly & Cooper Manufacturing Co., Philadelphia, show hot-bed frames
and sash of good workmanship.
F. A Smith, of Piiiladelpiiia, shows green-house sash-bars.
JosEPHUS Plenty, New York, exhibits a section of a green-house showing the
Helliwell system of glazing, which is very strong and durable.
John N. May, of Summit, N. J., exliibits a model green-house, illustrative of
his essay, which is very comi)lete, and well worthy close attention from those
who contemplate building.
J. Evans, Richmond, Indiana, exhibits a patent ventilating apparatus. Sev-
eral members of your committee have seen and examined the said apparatus at
Messrs. Craig & Brothers' place, and do not think it superior to those already in
use, for the reasons that it works hard, and when tiie handle is let go, in lower-
ing, it drops witli increasing speed, thus making it liable to break or shake out
the glass of tlie ventilators, as well as other parts of the house.
J. D. Carmody, Evansville, Indiana, exhibits a sectional water iieater. None
of your committee having had a practical test of this boiler, decline to give an
opinion on it.
Thomas W. Weathered, of New York, exhibits his well-known hot-water
boiler, which has many good points.
Denys Zirngiebel, Needham, Mass., shows a model of a boiler for hot water
under pressure.
APPENDIX. 141
C. W. Jenkings, Philadelphia, shows a well-designed valve for use in hot-
water circulations.
Davjd Cliffe, Germantown, exhibits rubber packing for hot-water pipes.
Peter Henderson,
John Henderson,
John H. Taylor.
REPORT or committee on cut flowers.
Henry A. Dreer, Pliiladelphia, exhibits a collection of splendid strains of
petunias, verbenas, and hollyhocks, showing great improvement in these plants.
Oscar R. Kreinberg, Pliiladelphia, shows a collection of handsome pansies.
SA3IUEL C Moon, Morrisville, Pa., exiiibits a splendid assortment of named
gladioli, which attracts much attention. He also lias on exhibition a plant of
Exochorda grandijlora, a meritorious hardy slirub.
Conrad Kirchner, Pliiladel[)hia, shows some fine seedling carnation blooms.
John Stewart, Wilmington, Del., exhibits a collection of cut verbenas.
Peter Henderson, New York, exhibits cut asters, petunias, geraniums, and
anthemis, all of much merit.
V. 11. H ALLOCK, Son & Thorpe, East Hinsdale, N. Y., exhibit a large collec-
tion of gladioli of great beauty, covering many of the finest named varieties known .
W. K. Harris,
Chairman Committee.
report of committee on MR. LE MOULT'S EXHIBIT AND LECTURE.
The committee would especially commend tlie designs exhibited by Mr. A. Le-
Moult, of New York, for the great attention which had been paid to detail, as
every part of the work seemed to be wrought out and finished in good taste-
The first design displayed was made of immortelles, and represented a horse
saddled and bridled. It presented a natural appearance.
The yaclit Galatea was very graceful, and was a good imitation of a vessel
under full sail with a good breeze.
The gondola, with the monogram of the Society on the sail, was also artisti-
cally arranged, and would make a capital design for the center of a dinner-table.
The original design representing "a wheel of fortune,'' flying through the air,
bearing a cornucopia, was a very effective piece of work, and the rapidity with
wliich it was executed was remarkable, only one hour and a half being consumed
in its construction, during wliich time the frame was made, mossed, and all the
flowers stemmed, as well as arranged.
The committee would especially recommend the use of growing plants, as seen
at the base of this design. Growing plants and ferns can often be used in this
way to take the place of cut-flowers when the latter are scarce, and be made to
produce as good, if not better, effect, and will continue beautiful long after the
cut-flowers have wilted.
The committee recommends that the thanks of this Society of American
Florists be tendered to Mr. LeMoult for his interesting and instructive address
given in connection with his elaborate display.
Alexander Murdoch,
Robert Kift,
Frank Huntsman,
J. M. Gasser,
John White,
Comviittee.
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APPENDIX.
LIST OF MEMBERS FOR 1886-1887.
Alabama.
Pfingstal, Joseph, Montgomery.
Reed, C. H., Birmingliam.
Zioiraer, Alfred, Montgomery.
California.
Sievers, J. H., 25 Post street, San Francisco.
Colorado, •
Gallup, Avery, Denver.
CunnecHciit.
Dassick, E. C, liridgeport.
Dickerman, George A., New Ha-
ven.
Geduldig, G., Norwich.
Horan, James, Bridgeport.
Ives, J. II., Danbury.
Delaware.
Bayliss, L. E., AVilmington.
Brown, J. L., Wilmington.
Grant, Henry, Wilmington.
Hargardine, R. W., Felton, Kent
county.
District of Coluw hia.
Adams, William W., 335 Missouri
avenue, Washington.
Durfee, Benjamin, Washington.
Evans, Frank M., Washington.
Field, George, Jjincoln avenue,
Washington.
Field, Tliomas, Lincoln avenue,
Washington.
Freeman, J. R., Thirteenth and E
streets, N. W., Washington.
Gude, A., Jr., Washington.
Hale, C. F., Washington.
Georgia.
Kiessling, G., Savannah.
Meyer, Fritz R., Savannah.
Lines, C. P., 23 Beers street. New
Haven.
McCrone, Robert, Thompsonville.
Reck, John, Bridgeport.
AVliiting, A., Franklin avenue,
Hartford.
Ilayden, Matthew, Wilmington.
Sparks, Charles E., Wilmington.
Stewart, Jolin, Wilmington.
Pollock, George, 24 t Centre Mar-
ket, Washington.
Pfister, Henry, gardener White
House, Washington.
Sniitii, William R., Botanic Gar-
dens, Washington.
Studer, Nicholas, 421 Centre Mar-
ket, Washington.
Schmidt, Louis, 317 Twelfth street,
N. W., Wasliington.
Saul, John, 621 Seventh street, N.
W., Washington.
Oelschig, A. C, Savannah.
Wackendorff, E., Atlanta.
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Illinois.
Anthony, J. T., Chicago.
Balmer, A., Danville.
Calvert, Edward S., Lake Forest.
Calvert, Frank, Lake Forest.
Carten, Theodore, Wright's Grove.
Clark, Sidnej', Lake Forest.
Donovan, R. J., Havelock.
Forster, John S., Box .392, Evans-
ton.
Gardener, Mrs. Sarah P., Hinsdale.
Grant, G. L., 54 La Salle street,
Chicago.
Hay, Charles E., Springfield.
Harting, Charles, Wright's Grove.
Heinl, Joseph, Jacksonville.
Hunt, M. A., Wright's Grove.
Keenan, T. F., 42 La Salle street,
Chicago.
King, F. J., Ottawa.
Kropf, John W., Collinsville.
Lane. John, Chicago.
Law, P. F.. Turner Park.
Newitt, Alexander, Millard ave-
nue, Chicago.
Pepper, S., Belvidere.
Phelps, H. L., Springfield.
Eiessig, Charles, Chicago.
Sawyer, A. W., Sycamore.
Scott, D. W., Galena.
Sillimau, J. C, Chicago.
Yaughan, J. C, 42 La Salle street,
Chicago.
Van Dyke, Mrs., Shellyville
Viberts, W. A., 16 Thirty-eighth
street, Ciiicago.
Williams, W. H., Batavia.
Williams, C. O., Batavia.
Indiana.
Carmody, J. D., Evansville.
Dorner, Frederick, Lafayette.
Heinl, John G., Terre Haute.
Hill, E. G., Richmond.
Palmer, Mrs. F. H.. La Porte.
Rieman, Cliarles, Indianapolis.
Teas, E. Y., Dunreith.
Troxell, A., Knightstown.
Wade, F. H., Evansville.
Wiegand, A., Indianapolis.
lo wa.
Cole, C. C, Des ]SIoines.
Green, W., Davenport.
Harkett, AV. A., Dubuque.
Higley, H. G., 41 Second avenue.
Cedar Rapids.
Hoffmeister Bros., Fort Madison.
Kellenberger, John U., Fort
Dodge.
Kramer, .Judson IL, Marion.
Temple, John T., Davenport.
Kansas.
Bristol, Miss E. R., Topeka.
Kirkpatrick, Archie, Leavenworth.
Kftitucky.
Bell, W. S., Lexington.
Fries, John, Covington.
Jackson, Thomas, Covington.
Morat, Francis, Ormsby avenue,
Louisville.
Nanz, C. J., Ovvensborough.
Loutsiati a.
Eblen, John, Sixth street. New Or-
leans.
Power, Edmond, Frankfort.
Schulz, Jacob, Cave Hill, Louis-
ville.
Walker, William, Highland and
Everett avenues, Louisville.
Luciens, F., White st. bet. St. Peter
and Toulouse sts. , New Orleans.
144
APPENDIX.
Maine.
Dennett, Miss N., Brunswick.
Marylati d.
Barger, Frederick G., 208 Green
Mountain avenue, Baltimore.
Cook, Jolni, 74 N. (Jliarles street,
Baltimore.
Dahoff, Mrs. ,J. W., North street,
Hagerstowi).
Donn, John. Baltimore.
Eichelberger, II., 188 Madison av-
enne, Baltimore.
Feast, J. E., Baltimore.
Frazier, AVilliam, 277 E. Baltimore
street, Baltimore.
Grant, Donald 8., Govanstown,
Baltimore county.
Massachusett - .
Adams, C. Thompson, West Med-
way.
Breed, E. W., Clinton.
Brydon, J., Yarmouthport.
Barrett, E. C.,57 Ilaskinson street,
Maiden.
Bock, Wm. A., North Cambridge,
Chandler, G. F., South Lancaster.
Elliott, William, Kendrick street,
Boston.
Fisher, F. C, South Sudbury.
Gale, W. F., Springfield.
Gleason, F. B., Marlboro'.
Herrick, N. J., Springiield.
Liunell, J. W., 14 Chapman Place,
Boston.
McCarthy. N. F., 9 Park street,
Boston.
Michigan.
Boehme, A., Battle Creek.
Chapman, F. A., Grand Rapids.
Hancock, J. G., Grand Haven,
Hughes, Wellington, Hillsdale.
Jones, D. C, Detroit.
Minnesota.
Blumm, Edward, St. Paul.
Mendenhall, B. J., Minneapolis.
Smith, C. A., Minneapolis.
Moses, F. H., Bucksport.
Haliiday, William J., Liberty
IJoad, Baltimore.
Haliiday, Robert J., Baltimore.
Harold, F. W., Salisbury.
Herman, Charles, Frederick.
Iless, Conrad, Waverly.
Millmaij, F. X., Cumberland.
McCormick, John, 74 \V. Charles
street, Baltimore.
Pentland, James, Baltimore.
Thomas, Mrs. Mary J., 83 N.
Charles street, Baltimore.
Meade, Thomas II., Dorcliester.
Montgomery. Alexander, Natick.
Moss, II. B,, Natick,
O'Brien, James, Jamaica Plains.
Patten, Marcellus, Lowell.
Palmer, Frederick, Brookline.
Shaw, E. D., Holyoke.
Sheppard, E., Lowell,
Stewart, William J., 67 Bromheld
street, Boston.
Sully, George II., Springfield.
Tailby, Joseph, Wellesley.
Ward, J. M., Peabody.
Welch, P.. Tremont street, Bos-
ton.
White, John, Pittslield.
Wood, W. R., West Newton.
Zirngiebel, 1)., Needham.
Mann, Harry, Lansing.
Smith, D. P., Flint,
Sullivan, J, Frederick, 985 Gratiot
avenue, Detroit.
Taplin, Stephen, Detroit.
Swanson, A. S., State Reform
School, St. Paul,
Wunder, John, Winona,
APPENDIX.
145
Missout i
Armstrong, Luther, Kirkwood.
Berdan, Albert, 2724 W. Grand
avenue, St. J^ouis.
Brown, Daniel S., 2311 S. Thir-
teenth street, St. Louis.
Brown, R. S., Kansas City.
Connor, Charles, 2742 Olive street,
St. Louis.
Davison, James, 70S Olive street,
St. Louis.
Ellison,W., 2602 Olive st.,St. Louis.
Jordan, J. M., 706 Olive street, St.
Louis.
Juengel, C. A., 1843 Linn street,
St. Louis.
Kuehn, C. A., 1432 Morgan street,
St. Louis.
Michel, Henry, 708 Olive street,
St. Louis.
]^eilson, Hans, St. Joseph.
Sanders, C. C, 1214 Olive street,
St. Louis.
Schray, William, 4104 Pennsyl-
vania avenue, St. Louis.
Waldbert, Alexander, cor. Grand
avenue, St. Louis.
Young, William, St. Louis.
Young, James, St. Louis.
Nebrasl. a.
Dunaghue, A., Omaha.
New Jersey.
Asmus, Rudolph, New Durham.
Bishop, William R., Burlington.
Binstead, George W., Summit.
Boch, .Jerome, Burlington.
Bridgeman, Thomas, Raraseys.
Butler, C, Summit.
Carre, W. P., Mantna.
Chew, Charles W., Glassboro'.
Chinnick, W. J., Trenton.
Collins, Lew, Bordentcwn.
Cook, John A., Beverly.
Cosgrove, Frank, Madison.
Dahl,Carl, Mt. Holly.
Denman, C. S., Summit.
Edwards, Theodore, Bridgeton.
Esler, J. G., Saddle River.
Esler, A., Saddle River.
Field, G. T., Middletown.
Gardiner, John G , Jobstown.
Gates, Nicholas, Summit.
Gates, George, Summit,
Goode, James, Summit.
Goble, Frederick, Verona.
Hancock, L. R., Burlington.
Henderson, Peter, Jersey City.
Henderson, Charles, Jersey City.
Hicks, J. M., Summit.
Jones, Thomas, Short Hills.
Leonard, J. H., lona.
Leonard, James L., lona.
Lukens, J. H., Bmlington.
May, Jolm N., Summit.
Marple, C. C, Camden.
McDonald, Robert, Summit.
McGall, H. J., Orange.
McMahon, Frank, Seabright.
Miller, John, West Hoboken.
Monahau. James, Madison.
O'Neil, Thomas, Long Branch.
Roehrs, Julius, Rutherford.
Schmidt, P. A., Long Branch.
Schweiuhagen, C, Camden.
Schultz, Alexander, Pliillipsburg.
Sturtevant, E. D., Bordentown.
Taplin, James, May wood.
Thurston, W. J., Ramseys.
To well, Josepli, Patterson.
Turuley, C. William, Camden.
Vogt, William, Camden.
Ward, P. J., Bloomfield.
Witheridge, Charles, Newark.
10
146
APPENDIX.
Nt IV Tork.
Allen, W. S., 940 BroadwHy, New
York.
Allen, C. L,, Garden City.
Allen, J. W., Hudson.
Anderson, Charles, Flushing, L. I.
Belding, George S., Middletown.
Benz, Albert, Douglaston.
Bennett, W. G., Flatbush.
Bennett, A. W., Flatbush.
Benedict, George H., Utica.
Bussard. Henry, Yonkers.
Burke, F. H., Long Island City.
Buchanan, Isaac, 407 Fifth ave-
nue. New York.
Childs, J. L., Queens.
Cosgrove. J. A., Sparkhill.
Colton, George T. N., 079 Broad-
way, New York.
Crosman Bros., Rochester.
Dean, James, Bay Ridge.
Dingwall, John, 1020 Broadway,
Albany.
Ellwanger & Barry, Rochester.
Falconer, William, Glen Cove.
Ferris, J. D., 120 Liberty street.
New York.
Fish, J. G., Whitney's Point.
Gordon, Frederick, 71 Broadway,
New York.
Gross, George, 17 S. William street,
New York.
Hammond, James A., 51 W. Thir-
tieth street, New York.
Hamilton, F., 290 Bay st.,Stapleton.
Hall, W. W., E. Holley, Hudson.
Hart, .James, 117 W. Thirtieth
street. New York.
Hermann, A., 413 E. Thirty-fourth
street. New York.
Henshaw, Samuel, New Brighton,
Staten Island.
Hittman, Peter B., Box 85, E. New
York.
Koran, Edward C, 905 Broadway,
New York.
Howland, T. A., 401 Wells' Build-
ing and 18 Broadway, New York.
Hunter, F. D., 51 W. Thirtieth
street, New York.
Jansen, E., 154 W. Nineteenth
street. New York.
Joosten, C. H., 22 New Church
street. New York.
Kadletz, John, Stapleton, Staten
Island.
Keller, J. N., Bay Ridge.
Kellar, Samuel, 122 W. Twenty-
fifth street. New York.
Keelar, L. J., Rochester.
Kelsey, F. W., 208 Broadway, New
York.
Kricks, W. C.,950 Gates avenue,
Brooklyn.
Krombach, Charles, Brooklyn.
Long, D. B., 57 Niagara street,
Buffalo.
Lord, F. A., Irvington.
Lorenze, George, Astoria.
Matthews, William, Utica.
Marc, Charles J., Woodside.
Mensing, C. J. S., Rochester.
Meissner, B., Flatbush.
Messeburg, Gus., Flatbush.
Messeburg, Gus., Jr., Flatbush.
Mills, M. H., Biiighamton.
Miller, E. S., Wading River.
McAllister, F. E.,22 Dey street.
New York.
Morgan, James, Auburn,
Nilson, William, Woodlawn.
Nutt, S. A., 224 W. Forty-first
street. New York.
Parsons, Edward W., West Chester.
Peck, John B., Rye, West Ciiester
county.
Pierson, F. R., Tarry town.
Pickle, Samuel, 124 S street. New
York.
Plenty, Joseph, 144 Pearl street,
New York.
Quinlan, P. R., 199 W. Genesee
street, Syracuse.
Ross, Duncan, 525 Fifth avenue,
New York.
Roehrs, Theodore, 153 W. Thirty-
first street, New York.
Rolker, J. E., 44 Dey street. New
York.
APPENDIX.
147
Neiv York — Continued.
Salter, R. G., Rochester.
Salter, A. H., Rochester.
Savage, George, care W. S. Kim-
ball, Rocliester.
Scollay, Joiin A., 74 Myrtle avenue,
Brooklyn.
Scollay, U. G., 74 Myrtle avenue,
Brooklyn.
Schultheis, T., College Point.
Schlegel, Frederick, 260 South av-
enue, Rochester.
Scott, William, Buffalo.
Shuplielt, R. E., Chatham.
Siebrecht, Henry A., 409 Fifth av-
enue, New York.
Siebrecht, Louis, East Hinsdale.
Siebrecht, W. H., Astoria.
Smith, H. W.,66 Cortlandt street.
New York.
Steffens, N., 335 E. Twenty-first
street. New Y'ork.
Stetson, George T., Port Jervis.
Taylor, John H., Bayside.
Terwillifjer, S. F., Saratoga Sp'ngs.
Thorpe, John, East Hinsdale.
Thomman, Gustav, 462 Tenth av-
enue. New York.
Vick, P'rank H., Rochester.
A-^ick, Edward H., Rocliester.
Wall, II. M., 192 West street. New
York.
Wagner, R. H., 22 Vesey street,
New York.
Weathered, T. W., 40 Marion
street, New York.
Weimer, E. W., Mt. Vernon.
Wilson, W. C, Astoria.
Young, Thomas, Jr., New York.
North Carolina.
Lamb, James M., Fayetteville.
Lamb, George P., Wilmington.
Stienmetz, W., Raleigh.
Ohio.
Behrens, H., Middletown.
Bolia, William, 1047 Colerain ave-
nue, Cincinnati.
Bonsall, Joseph E., Salem.
Brosius, A. I)., Wooster.
Corbett, George, College Hill.
Congdon, A. R., Oberlin.
Dunlap, John, Queen's Hotel, To-
ronto.
Eadie, Andrew, Cleveland.
Evans, Maurice, Columbus.
Gasser, J. M., Cleveland.
Georsre, Robert, Painesville.
Glinns, Henry, 639 Vine street,
Cincinnati.
Glens, Joseph, Cumrainsville.
Graliam, Adam, Cleveland.
Harrison, Bert. T., Painesville.
Harrison, J, J., Painesville.
Heinl, G. A., Toledo.
Hippard, E., Youngstown.
Huntsman, Frank, Walnut street,
Cincinnati.
Imlay, .John D., Zanesville.
Jaynes, Harry C, 84 Euclid ave-
nue, Cleveland.
Jackson, S. S., Cincinnati.
James, A. C, Mt. Healthy.
Kayser, Karl, Newburg.
Koethen, E. L., Zanesville.
Lamborn, Leroy, Alliance.
Loder, John, Hamilton.
McCuUough, A., 134 Walnut street,
Cincinnati. "
McFaddan, F. T., 119 Broadway,
Cincinnati.
McKinney, W. H., 187 and 189 W.
Fourth street, Cincinnati.
Mitchell, C. L., P. O. Box 188,
Cincinnati.
Miller, Mrs. E., Ironton.
Murphy, Roger, Urbana.
Murphy, George C, Urbana,
Murphy, Robert J., Beecliwood.
Nolan, W. C, Cincinnati.
Paddock, E. J., Newberg.
148
APPENDIX.
Ohio— Continued.
Penney, John M., Newark.
Pentland, Francis, Lockland.
Peterson, Julius A., 195 W. Fourth
street, Cincinnati.
Pierce, L. P., Tallmadge.
Keeser, C A., Springfield.
Eitter, Herman, Dayton.
Romans, John B., 24 N. High
street, Columbus.
Schaefer, R., Denham street, Fair-
mount, Cincinnati.
Sell ram m, B., Toledo.
Smith, n. P., Piqua.
I'ennsylx ania.
Alburger, E. F., Ridge avenue and
Huntingdon street, Piiila.
Anderson, (ieorge. Fifty-second
and Woodland avenue, Phila.
Ander, John E., Doylestown.
Ball, C. D., Holmesburg.
Barrows, James, Wakefield street,
(jrermantown.
Bader, John, Allegheny.
Banyard, Edward, Thirtieth street
and Ridge avenue, Phila.
Ballantine, J. D., 714 S. Eleventh
street, Philadelphia.
Battles, H. H., 1204 Chestnut
street, Philadelphia.
Bayersdorfer, H., 56 N. Fourth
street, Philadelphia.
Beam, David, 2311 Wallace street,
Philadelphia.
Becker, Jacob, Fifty-second and
Market streets, Pliiladelphia.
Bell, W. T., Franklin.
Bender, George J., Lewisburg.
Billger, William A., 5670 German-
town avenue, Philadelphia.
Bissett, Miss Annie A., 333 Tasker
street, Philadelphia.
Blanc, A., 314 N. Eleventh street,
Pliiladelphia.
Brogan, Joiin, Fifty-fourth and
Woodland avenue, Philadelphia.
Brechemin, W. K., 935 S. Second
street, Philadelphia.
Stearns, A. M., Lockland.
Sunderbruch, H. L., 200>^ W.
Fourth street, Cincinnati.
Swaby, R. W., O. S. and S. O. Home,
Xeuia.
Underwood, J. N., Cheviot.
Walz, Frederick, Cumminsville.
Wills, Bert F., Akron.
Wilson, John, 707 Superior street,
Toledo.
Wilson, .John, College Hill.
White, Miss Annie, Salem.
Wheeler, H. M., Perry.
Burton, John, Wyndmoor, Chest-
nut Hill, Philadelphia.
Burpee, W. Atlee, 475 N. Fifth
street, Philadelphia.
Cassell, J. C, 1207 Columbia ave-
nue, Philadelphia.
Cartledge, A. B., 1514 Chestnut
street, Philadelphia.
Cartledge, Tiiomas, 1514 Cliestnut
street, i'hiladelphia.
Campbell, J. H., 8601 Germantown
avenue, Philadelphia.
Childs, Tliomas H., 725 Filbert
street, Philadelpliia.
Cliffe, David, Johnson street, Ger-
man to wii.
Clark, G. R., Scranton.
Coiton, E. B., Tenth and Chest-
nut streets, Philadelphia.
Cochrane, W., 211 Price street,
Pliiladelphia.
Colflesh, J. William, Fifty-third
and Woodland avenue, Phila,
Coles, W. W., Lansdowne.
Copper, John, Xewtown, Bucks
county.
Connelly, John J., Bryn Mawr.
Connell, Benjamin, West Grove.
Conner, D. T., Chester.
Crawford, W. N., 106 S. Sixteenth
street, Pliiladelphia.
Craig, Robert, Forty-ninth and
Market streets, Philadelphia.
APPENDIX.
149
Pennsylvania— Continued.
Crall, C. S., Monongahela City.
Crawford, Robert, Jr., 235 8. Elev-
enth street, Philadelphia.
Curtin, T)., Twentieth street and
Nicetown avenue, Philadt^lphia.
Curwin, John, Jr., Villa Is'ova,
Philadelphia.
Dewitt, Thomas, Bristol.
Dick, .Joliii, Jr., Fifty-second and
Woodland avenue, Philadelphia.
Dillon, J. L., Bloomsburg.
Dorrance, B. F., Wilkesbarre.
Downs, Alexandei-, Ridse and Le-
high avenues, Philadelphia.
Dreer, William F., 714 Chestnut
street, Piiiladelpl)ia.
Dreer, Mrs. IT. A., Pliiladelphia.
Edwards, W. L., Moore's P. O.
Edwards, Odin R., 1029 Chestnut
street, Philadelphia.
Eisele, C, 1500 N. Eleventh street,
Philadelphia.
Eldridge, W. M., Wilkesbarre.
Elliott, Benjamin A., Pittsburgh.
Engler, Henry, Forty-seventh st.
and Lancaster avenue, Phila.
Evans, C. F., Rowlandville, Phil-
adelphia.
Evans, George C, Rowlandville,
Philadelphia.
Evans, Frank M., Washington.
Farson, D. D. L., Fiftieth street
and Westminster avenue, Phila.
Fancourt, W. F., Thirty-fourth
street and Ridge avenue, Phila.
Fancourt, George E., Wilkesbarre.
Fergusson, Miss, Ridge and Le-
high avenues, Philadelphia.
Fergusson, F. M., Ridge avenue,
Philadelphia.
Fergusson, Robert, Ridge avenue,
Philadelphia.
Finley, J. G., 1020 Arch street,
Philadelphia.
Fitzgerald, William J., Bryn Mawr.
Foukls, Thomas, Hoyt P. O., Mont-
gomery county.
Fries, J. A., Bethlehem.
Frederick, William, Jenkintown.
Garrow, H. S., 47 Federal street,
Allegheny.
Gebhai'd, William, Germantown.
Geiger, H. C, 614 Chestnut street,
Philadelphia.
George, James, Supt. Allegheny
Cemetery, Pittsburgh.
German, Edward, Altoona.
Giles, J. H., Reading.
Graham, Hugh, Seventeenth and
Thompson streets, "Phila.
Graham, William, Seventeenth
and Thompson streets, Pliila.
Grigg, C. H., 1204 Chestnut street,
Philadelphia.
Haubert, John, Belmont, Phila-
delphia.
Harris, W. K., Fifty-fifth and
Woodland avenue, Phila.
Haenze, C. A., Pliiladelphia.
Hanson, AVilliam H., 1731 Filbert
street, Philadelphia.
Hahman, F., Harrowgate Lane,
Philadelphia.
Hacker, William, Philadelphia.
Heron, Richard, 1735 Cliestnut
street, Philadelphia.
Herr, Albert M., Lancaster.
Heacock, Joseph, Jenkintown.
Hillborn, Watson T., Newtown,
Bucks county.
Hoskins, G. H., Reading.
Hoffmeistler, Cliristian, Jumon-
ville.
Hutton, James, Righter street,
Lower Roxborough, Phila.
Hunter, C. F., 5550 Lansdowne
avenue, Philadelphia.
Hughes, J. M., Bryn Mawr.
James, H. Q., Altoona.
Jennings, C. W., Olney, Philadel-
phia.
Jennings, J. W., Olney, Philadel-
phia.
Jones, A. E., Eighth and Arch
streets, Pliiladelphia.
Joyce, William, Philadelphia.
Kaufmann, Ernst, Fourth street,
above Race, Philadelphia.
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APPENDIX.
Pennsylvania— Cuviinue'i.
Kahlert, C. W., 1514 Chestnut
street, Pliiladelpliiiv.
Kemp, J. G., Asylum Road, Pliil-
adelphia.
Kift, Robert, 1721 Chestnut street,
Pliiladelphia.
Kift, Joseph, West Chester.
Kirchner, Conrad, Twenty- first
street and Allegheny avenue,
Pliiladelphia.
Koehler, Julius, Frankford, Phil-
adelphia.
Koehler, W. II., 4000 Germantown
avenue, Philadelphia.
Krayer, J. E., Media.
Kreles, F. 8., 543 Belgrade street,
Philadelphia.
La Roche, M. F., Thirteenth and
Chestnut streets, Piiiladelpiiia.
Lamb, Cliarles P., Wyndmoor,
Chestnut Hill, Philadelphia.
Landes, Lemon, Lancaster.
Lonsdale, Edwin, Wyndmoor,
Chestnut Hill, Philadelphia.
Lucking, Mrs. Kate E., Fifty-
fourth street and Fairmount av-
enue, Pliiladelphia.
Lul/., August, 311 N. Thirty-
second street, Philadelphia.
Marchuetz, Joseph, 25 N. Fourth
street, Philadel|>hia.
Marvin & Wagle, 387 and 389 Main
street, Wilkesbarre.
Maybury, Thomas, Pittsburgh.
Maule, William II., 1713 Filbert
street, Philadelphia.
Makin, E., Paschalville, Philadel-
phia.
Mack, Christopher, 321 S. Twen-
tieth street, Philadelphia.
Ma'-ot, C. H., 814 Chestnut street,
Philadelphia.
Mernaw, William, Sixth and Som-
erset streets, Philadelphia.
Meyers, Jacob, Lancaster.
Meehan, W. E., Germantown,
Philadelphia.
McCarthy, T. J., Ridge and Le-
high avenues, Philadelphia.
McClintock, Logan E., Harris-
burg.
McFarland, J. Horace, 107 and 109
Cumberland St., Harrisburg.
McMurray, Joseph, 1502 Master
street, Philadelphia.
Michell, H., 714 Chestnut street,
Philadelphia.
Mish, D. Hammond, cor. Fourth
and Chestnut streets, Lebanon.
Moore, G. S., 2259 Franklin street,
Philadelpliia.
Moon, S. C, Morrisville.
Myers, Thomas J., Jr., 1173 8.
Ninth street, Philadelphia.
Myers, F. II., 1173 S. Ninth street,
Philadelphia.
Myers, J. II., Altoona.
Murdock, Alexander, Pittsburgh.
Murdock, William, Pittsburgh.
Murdock, F. C, Pittsburgh.
Nisbet, John, 1735 Chestnut street,
Philadelphia.
Nitterhouse, J. F., Waynesboro'.
O'Brien, M. J., Sliaron.
Otter, Harold, Doylestown, Bucks
county.
Pegge, Henry, Howard and Som-
erset streets, Philadeliihia.
Perkins, John J., Sixteenth street,
Philadelphia.
Pennock, C. E., 30 S. Sixteenth
street, Philadelphia.
Petterson, Gustave, Harrisburg.
Pennock, A. L., Lansdowne.
Price, C. S., Lansdowne.
Ramsden, J. B , Morton.
Reist, Nathe E., Limerick.
Reig, John, Jenkintown.
Reineuian, E. C, Allegheny.
Rice, M., Eightli and Arch streets,
Philadelphia.
Rimby, Horace, Collegeville.
Robb, R. R., Jr., Pliiladelphia,
Rohrer, A. D., Lancaster.
Ilohrer, H. D., Lancaster.
Robertson, Thomas, 22 J3 Fair-
mount avenue, Philadelphia.
Roberts, C. C, Philadelphia.
AITENDIX.
151
Pennsylvania- Continued.
Kupp, Henry S., Shiremantown.
Savage, John, 43 Brown street,
riiiladelphia.
Scott, Alexander B., Nineteenth
and Catharine streets, Phila.
Schroyer, George AV., Lancaster.
Schi'oj'er, H. A., Lancaster.
Schmidt, Joseph, Harrisburg.
Schafmeister, John, Harrisburg.
Slieetz, Peter E., Kensington ave-
nue, Philadelphia.
Siielmire, W. IL, Avondale.
Sliumard, William P., Avondale.
Simpson, Robert, Frankford, Phil-
adelpiiia.
Siebert, Charles T., Pittsburgh.
Smith, W. H., 1018 Chestnut
street, Philadelphia.
Smith, J. Y., Doylestown.
Stuetzer,E.,Germantown and Sus-
quehanna avenues, Phila.
Stevens, F., Lansdowne.
Stauffer, Abram, Lancaster.
Strong, O. H., Oil City.
Strouch, C. L., Pottsville.
Strouch, N. P., Pottsville.
Stone, H. C, Woodland avenue,
Philadelphia.
Stahl, B., Thirteenth and Chest-
nut streets, Philadelpliia.
Starr, Charles T., Avondale.
Swayne, William, Kennett Square.
Taplin, W. H., Holmesburg.
llhode Island.
Batclier, William, Pitman street,
Providence.
Burrough, George A., Cook street.
Providence.
Thomas, AV. D.,4121 Parish street,
Philadelphia.
Wagner, W. H., 1224 Ridge ave-
nue, Philadelphia.
Waterer, H., f6 N. Thirty-eighth
street, Philadelphia.
Westcott, W. H., Second street,
below Tioga street, Pliila.
Weiss, Eugene, Eighth and Arch
streets, Philadelphia.
Westcott, John, 1514 Chestnut
street, Pliiladelphia.
Whilldin, J. G., 713 and 715 Whar-
ton street, Pliiladelphia.
Whiting, W. H., Wellsboro'.
Wilkinson, Sidney, 714 Chestnut
street, Philadelphia.
Winters, Thomas J., Commerce
street, Harrisburg.
Wintzer, A., West Grove.
Williams, Albert, Sharon.
Woods, D. R., New Brighton.
Woods, David, Holmewood Ceme-
tery, Pittsburgh.
Wood, James P., 39 S. Fourth
street, Philadelphia.
Wuttke, F. W.,Etna.
Wynings, R. AV., Lebanon.
Wyatt, William H., 236 N. Thir-
teenth street, Philadelphia.
Young, W. J., School street, Ger-
mantown, Philadelphia.
Connor, T. O., Providence.
Johnson, George, Elmwood.
Jurgens, Carl, Newport.
South Carolina.
Thompson, Mrs. J. S. R., Spartanburg.
Vermont.
Allen, C. E., Brattleboro'.
Bryant, Henry, St. Albans.
Virginia.
Reynolds, Benjamin, Norfolk.
Robertson, John, Alexandria.
Cook, George, St. Albans.
Roper, C. E., 408 West C street,
Richmond.
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West Virginia.
Hiehle, Adolph, Wlieeling.
Krieger, William F., Superintend-
ent Parks, Wheeling.
Wisconsin.
Carrie, William, Milwaukee.
Dilger, F. P., Milwaukee.
Dilger, M. P., Milwaukee.
Dorner, II.," Milwaukee.
Ellis, Frank R., Milwaukee.
Freytag, J., Milwaukee.
Gordon, Mrs. George, Milwaukee.
Canada.
Bennett, J., Montreal.
Campbell, C, 40 Rudegonde street,
Montreal.
France.
Benard, E., 51 Route, Orleans.
Meyer, Fritz R., Savannah.
Haentze, E., Fond du Lac.
Jewett, Z. K., Sparta.
Le Febre, John, North Greenfield.
Middlemass, A., Milwaukee.
Ninicke, C, Milwaukee.
Salzer, H. A., La Crosse.
Cape, John, Winnipeg.
Dale, IL, Brampton, Ontario.
Eraser, Mrs. Agnes, Toronto.
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SUPPLEMENT TO MEMBERSHIP LIST.
Asmus, Ernest, West Hoboken, K. J.
Auger, B. C, Fort Wayne, Ind.
Avery, Cliarles H., Madison, Wis.
Appleton, Thomas, Lake; Forest, 111.
Butz, Paul, New Castle, Pa.
Bastow, W. D., Wellington, Kan.
Beck, (/harles K., iSoldiers' Home,
Dayton, O.
Bellville, J. B., Cedar Point, Hamilton
county, O.
Bertrand, Henry, Carthage Pike, Avon-
dale, O.
Becker, Frank, Cambridge, Mass.
Bettman, John G., New Albany, Ind.
Buettner, C, Deadwood, Dakota.
Bonner, E., Xenia, O.
Bunde, A, H., St. Paul, Minn.
Brunner, C. A., Cincinnati, O.
Berterman, William, Indianapolis, Ind.
Berterman, Jolm, Indianapolis, Ind.
Bussard, Henry, Yonkers, N. Y.
Bochman, E. II., Pittsburgh, Pa.
Bauuigarten,('harles, Milwaukee, Wis.
Coglan, R. W., Miles Center, 111.
Critchell, B. P., Fourth street, Cin-
cinnati, O.
Cornelli, Edward, Indianapolis, Ind.
Clark, David, Broadway, New York
city.
Clark, Samuel, Fountain Grove, Santa
Bosa county, Cal.
Cartwright, George, Dedham, Mass.
Carbon, Joseph, Des Plaines, 111.
Cooley, Mrs. H. Clay, Manchester, O.
Cefrey, A. T., 37 Tremont street, Bos-
ton, Mass.
Crusman, J. J., Clarksville, Tenn.
Cincinnati Desiccating Company, Cin-
cinnati, O.
Clarke, E. C, Springfield, Mass.
Calvert, F., Lake" Forest, 111.
Carington, R. C. S., Worcester, Eng.
Caldwell, Thomas N., Carthage,*0.
Casper, L. A., Council Bluffs, la.
Carters, Thomas J., Lake View, 111.
Conroy, Edward, Cincinnati, O.
Drobisch, Gustave, Columbus, O.
Dorval,Victor,Woodside, Long Island,
N. Y.
DeVry, H. J., Ciiicago, 111.
Dresel, Augustus, Chicago, 111. ,
Dumont, S. M., Vevay, Ind.
Deneke, Charles, Henderson, Ky.
Downs, William, Evanston, 111.
Doswell, George W., Fort AVayne, Ind.
DeForest, W. IL, Summit, N. J.
Devine, Peter, 183 Canal street, Chi-
cago, 111.
Eliot, Edward, 411 Milwaukee street,
Milwaukee, Wis.
Ellis, Marcus, Keene, N. H.
Edlefson, Lavis, St. Paul, Minn.
Edlefson, William, Milwaukee, Wis.
Forder, Alfred, East Walnut Hills,
Cincinnati, O.
Fisclier, Albert, Woodburn avenue,
Cincinnati, O.
Fries, John, Newport, Ky.
Fairchild, O. P., 20 East Fifth street,
Covington, Ky.
Finn, John, Second avenue. New York
city.
Fisher, Sewell, Framingham, Mass.
Franks, Thomas, Champaign, 111.
Frazer, William, Baltimore, Md.
Goode, Frank, Springfield, O.
Goode, John, Chicago, 111.
Getz, Charles A., Harrison Pike, Cin-
cinnati, O.
*
Genteman, C. F. W., Quincy, 111.
Gibbs, J. F., Perrysville, Pa.
Gray, Walter, Kirby Road, Cummins-
ville, Cincinnati, O.
Glins, Joseph, Spring Grove avenue,
Cincinnati, O.
Griffitli, N. L., Independence, Mo.
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Guy, Everett W., Belleville, 111.
Grimmer, C. P., 51 West street, Bos-
ton, Mass.
Grew, Mrs. J. W., Independence, Kan.
Gallup, C. R., Denver, Col.
Guy, T. W., Klmmswiek, Mo.
Guy, E. AV., Belleville, 111.
Giddings, A., Danville, 111.
Huston, Frank, Milton, Ind.
Hellenthal, John 11., Columbus, O.
Hamilton, William, Allegheny, Pa.
Heath, Robert, Woodstock, Ontario,
Can.
Hasp, Philip F., College Hill, Hamil-
ton county, O.
Heikes, W. F., Huntsville, Ala.
Hoeffner, Henry, Hamilton, O.
Hall, William E., Clyde, O.
Henaker, D., Louisville, Ky.
Hilker, Henry, Indianapolis, Ind.
Hodson, George, North Springfield,
Mo.
Heffron, D. S., Washington Heights,
HI.
Henecke, C, Milwaukee, Wis.
Heinl, Lawrence, Terre Haute, Ind.
Hews, A. T.,Xorth (Jambridge, ISIass.
Herline, Herman, Cumminsville, Cin-
cinnati, O.
Hoppenmutte, Paul, Milwaukee, Wis.
Ilerinze, K., Fond da Lac, Wis.
Hull, William, College Hill, O.
Hoffman, Jacob, Sta. A., Cincinnati, O.
Helms, Walter, Janesville, Wis.
Jackson, Tliomas, Sycamore street,
Cincinnati, O.
Jackson, 8. S., Cincinnati, O.
Jackson, Albert T., Bowmanville, 111.
Jones, John, Madison, N. J.
King, James, Chicago, 111.
Knott, David, Jr., Avondale, Cincin-
nati, O.
Kolthoff, Frederick K., Oak street,
Walnut Hi. Is, Cincinnati, O.
Knost, C Portsmouth, O.
Knott, David, Sr., Avondale, O.
Keller, John, 15 Lexington avenue,
Indianapolis, Ind.
LeMoult, A., 174 Bowery, New York
city.
Losey, J. W., LaCrosse, Wis.
Lanham, Harry, Memphis, Tenn.
Lauer, Anton, Cave Hill, Louisville,
Ky.
Lockhurst, Frederick J., Chicago, 111.
Mumma, George R., Dayton, O.
Morat, Francis, Ormsby avenue, Louis-
ville, Ky.
Murdocii, James, Smithfield street,
Pittsburgh, Pa.
Maitre, R., Magazine street. New Or-
leans, La.
Mclntyre, J. W., Fulton, Mo.
McConnell, J. T., Fulton, Mo.
Mclntyre, Daniel, Nashville, Tenn.
McGall, II. J., Orange, N. J.
Morat, Edward, Fourtli street, Louis-
ville, Ky.
Moore, George, Milton, Ind.
McKellar, William, Chillicothe, O.
McBeth, Thomas, .Springfield, O.
Morton, William E., 615 Congress
street, Portland, Me.
Mensiug & Steelier, 336 North St. Paul
street, Rochester, N. Y.
McNally, E., Louisville, Ky.
Manthey, A., Cincinnati, O.
Mullert, Hugo, Cincinnati, O.
Miller, Charles, Westwood, Cincin-
nati, O.
Mathews, W. G., Dayton. O.
Newitt, W. G., Grand Boulevard, Chi-
cago, 111.
Neuner, Charles, St. Matthews, Jeffer-
son county, Ky.
Neuner, Alfred, Fourth street, Louis-
ville, Ky.
Norton, Michael, Hotel Berkeley, Bos-
ton, Mass.
Nixon, E. S., Chattanooga, Tenn.
Ohmer, Nicholas, Dayton, O.
Purvis, R. J., Havelock, 111.
Parker, George L., Dorchester, Mass.
Probasco, Henry, Oakwood, Clifion,
Cincinnati, O.
Pitcher, James R., Short Hills, N. J.
Peters, C, A., Price's Hill, Cincinnati,
O.
Palmer, W. J., 306 Main street, Buf-
falo, N. Y.
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Ray, Alfred, 33 Drummond street,
Montreal, Can.
Ramsey, James R., Nashville, Tenn.
Reed, John, Everett, Mass.
Rliodemeyer, George E., Pliiladelphia.
Roeskey, H., Marysville, Kan.
Smith, W. L., Aurora, 111.
Sunderbruch, Augustus, Cincinnati, O.
Schuster, Mrs. Theodore, 519 Herkimer
street, Brooklyn, N. Y.
Singler, N., Washington Heights, 111.
Schiller & Kuske, Niles Center, 111.
Sulzer, Frederick, Lake View, Chi-
cago, 111.
Spence, John, Santa Barbara, Cal.
Seitner, E., Dayton, O.
Schaefner, R., Denham street, Cincin-
nati, O.
Sailer, Isaac D., Third and Walnut
streets, Philadelphia, Pa
Smith, W. B., Cincinnati, O.
Swartling, C, Indianapolis, Ind.
Simmons, D. C, 115 Monroe street,
Chicago, 111.
Starr, A. R., Joliet, 111.
Saunders, Edgar, Wright's Grove,
Chicago, 111.
Sayler, J. A., Baysville, Long Island,
N.Y.
Swalm, A. J., Hazleton, Pa.
Shaw, J. Austin, Cook county, 111.
Suder, Mrs. E., 181 Summit street, To-
ledo, O.
Treadway, J. T., Brandt, O.
Tracy, S. M., Columbia, Mo.
Tait, Thomas, Port Richmond, IST. Y.
Tliompson, George, Cave Hill, Louis-
ville, Ky.
Taylor, D. L., Melrose, Mass.
Therkidson, P. H., Ironton, O.
Taylor, C. W.,New Brighton, Pa.
Underwood, William, Ludlow, Ky.
Union and Advertiser Company, Roch-
ester, N. Y.
Unverzogt, Louis, Springfield, 111.
Vogt, William, Camden, N. J.
Whitcomb, A., Lawrence, Kan.
Whitnall, F., Milwaukee, Wis.
Wilson, William C, Aatoria, N. Y.
AVelch, George, Madison, N. J.
Weiniioeber, E., 417 Elm street, Chi-
cago, 111.
Will, Oscar H., Bismarck, Dak.
Warder, R. IL, North Bend, O.
Wilson, George W., Maiden, Mass.
Walker, Herbert G., New Albany,
Ind.
Woolcott, F. A., Batavia, 111.
Whiteley, S., Racine, Wis.
Williams, John, College Hill, O.
Wilson, John, College Hill, O.
Wilson, James S , 3415 Olive street,
St. Louis, Mo.
Young & Elliott, 54 Dey street,
New York city.
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