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Sacrilegious  Defection 

OF   THE 

BOLT    MINISTER 
REBUKED, 

AND 

Tolerated  Preaching  of  the  G  0  S  P  E  L 

V  I  N  D  I  C  A  TED, 

Againft  the  Reafonings    of  a  Confident 

Queftionift,  in  a  Book  called 

£  Toleration  not  to  be  abufed.  3 

With  Counfel  to  the  * 

NONCONFORMISTS, 

And  Petition  to  the  . 

PIOUS    CONFORMISTS. 

By  one  that  is  Confecrated  to  the  Sacred 
Miniftery ,  and  is  refolved  not  to  be  a 

wilful  Deferter  of  it  ,  in  truft  that  any  underta- 
kers, can  juftifte  him  for  fuch  defertion  at .  the 
Judgment  of  God  •,  till  he  know  better  how  thofe 
can  come  off  themfelves,  who  are  unfaithful  Pa- 

ftors,  or  uniuft  Silencers  ofpthers.      •  <tfi 

J ; ___ 

i  Cor.  9. 16.  For  though  I  preach  the  GofpeL  I  have 
nothing  to  glory  of :  For  neceffity  is  laid  upon 
me,  yea  woe  is  unto  me, it  I  preach  net  the 
GofpeL 

i  Tim.i.iz, <&  z.$>&  3.6-  For  which  caufe  I fuffer 
thefe  things,  neveithelefs  I  am  not  afhamed,  &c. 

1  TheJ.  2.  i$,i£.  Who  both  killed  the  Lord  j'efus  and 
their  own  Prophets,,  and  have  perfecuted  us,3:c. 

Printed  in  the  Year,  i6ji. 


U) 


1909998 


Tolerated  Preaching 

OF 

Cinifis  (jofpbl 
VINDICATED, 


CHAP*    Ii 

Of  the  Jntbor  and  the  Title* 

SECT.    1. 

Am  one  my  felf  that  am  fd 

greatly  defirousyf  His  Maje- 

fties  Clemency,and  efcarthis 

prefent    Toleration   fhould 

not  be  abufed  by  any,  efpe- 

cially    fileaced    Minifters  5 

that  if  this  had  been  all  that 

the  Author  endeavoured  ,  I  ftlould  earneftly 

have  feconded  him.And  I  am  not  without  fear 

A  a  Of 


«JL 

(4) 

of  the  Wtakne\S)  Rafhnefs }  Injudicioufnefs  and 
Jmyritience  of  fome  that  yet  are  earneft  and 
profitable  Preachers.     But  when  I  find  that 
by  viot-tbujing  our  Liberty ,  he  meaneth  ,  not- 
ujing  it,  and  that  he  hath  the  face  to  exhort  us 
to  defer  t  our*  Office  ,  \v heft  the  King  doth  hin- 
der them  from  forcible  reftraining  usj  arid  that, 
when  it  is  Gods  work  which  we  are  vowed 
to,  he  cometh  to  us  (  as  the  old  Prophet)  in 
Gods  name  j  to  charge  us  to  forbear  it ,  my 
Confcience  bids  me  help  to  fave  the  weaker 
fore  jthat  need  it,from  fuch  pernicious  fallacies. 
And  if  I  fpeak  plainly  of  the  quality  of  bis  ar- 
guings,  I  defire  the  Reader  not  to  interpret  it, 
asiflhadnot  the  hearty  eft  defire  of  Peace, 
and  :\\  Brotherly  Love  and  Concord  with  all 
conformable,  godly,  faithful  Minifters.     But 
words  are  not  anfwered  according  to  their 
nature ,  when  the  nature  of  them  is  not  o- 
pened. 

SeB.  2.  Who  the  Author  is ,  and  why  he 
refoivech  his  Queftion  on  the  Presbyterian 
Principles,  and  pafleth  by  the  Epifcopal  Non- 
conformifts,  as  if  he  were  fo  ignorant  of  the 
prefent  State  of  EngUniy  as  not  to  know  that 
there  are  many  fuch  (  when  at  the  Kings  re- 
turn,i<S6o.k  was  Bifliop  Ufhers  Form  of  Epif- 
copal Government  which  they  all  offered  for 
Concord,  who  were  employed  in  that  work) 
tbefe  are  little  matters,  not  to  be  infifted  on. 
Only  I  fliall  tell  hjxd  tjiat  I  haye  mcc  with  few 

Iris* 


Presbyterian  Mmifters  in  England:  though 
moft  have  that  name  g  ven  them  in  their  Li- 
cehfes*  A  Presbyterian  is  one  tkat  is  [For  tbeDi- 
vine  Right  of  RHlir>g-£lders,unordained,havin£ 
no  Power  to  Preach  and  Admintjler  Sacrament  s\ 
and  for  the  Government  of  the  Church  by 
Presbyteries,  Claffes,  and  Synods,  compofed  of 
Teaching-Elders  in  Parity  with  tbefe  Ruling- 
Elders  Conjantt  ,  fo  that  2l  (general  Affembly 
of  them  is  the  true  Ecclefiaftical  Head,  otz 
National-Church.  ]]  Of  late,  a  Presbyterian 
is  like  the  Puritan  of  old :  A  word  which 
hath  as  many  and  as  bad  fignificatians,  as 
fpeakers  have  diversity  of  defigns  or  intents. 
In  one  mans  mouth  a  Presbyterian  is  an  Epifco* 
pal  Proteftant  of  the  fobereft.fort,  who  is  nei- 
ther for  Setts,  nor  for  Cbftrcb-7yranny;  and  fo 
impudency  hath  called  them  Presbyterians 
many  years,  who  offered  the  faid  Epifcopal 
Form,  which  A.  Bifhop^for  proved  to  be  the 
true  Government  of  the  ancient  Churches. 
And  fo  we  have  made  Epifcopal  Presbyterians, 
who  are  agawft  unordained  Elders,  and  for  Bi- 
(hops.  In  anothers  mouth  a  Presbyterian  is  one 
that  is  refolute  againftP^rj.Inanochers  mouth 
a  Presbyterian  is  one  that  is  for  the  fenous  pra- 
ctice of  a  holy  life.  In  another  mans  mouth 
a  Presbyterian  is  one  that  is  againft  Bifhops. 
And  fo  Independents  and  many  other  Se&s 
would  be  Preslyterians  too.  And  in  other 
mens  mouthes  a  Presbyterian  is  one  that  is  of 
A  3  Bi- 


CO'      , 

Bifhop  Reynolds,  and  Dr.  Stillwgfieets  jucfg- 
ment,  that  no  Form  of  Government  (befides 
the  meer  Paftoral  Office,  and  Church-Af- 
femblies  )  is  prefcribed  in  the  Word  of  God, 
Jmt  vari'oufly  left  to  variety  of  occafions. 
Among  all  thefe,  when  you  (peak  with  a 
Railing  Ruffian,  he  muft  tell  you  which  he 
means  himfelf :  But  when  we  meec  with  a 
Divine  that  underftandeth  the  common  ufe  of 
the  Word,  we  muft  take  him  to  ufe  it  in  the 
fir  ft  proper  fenfe.  In  which  fenfel  fay  again,, 
that  I  am  acquainted  with  few  comparatively 
that  are  for  Presbytery ;  but  I  know  many 
that  are  for  Paftoral  Adminiftration  without 
Church-Tyranny  or  Schifm. 

Sett.  3.  As  the  Author  honoureth  himfelf 
with  the  praife  of  being  a  Lover  of  the  Truth 
and  Peace  (  which  commendation  all  the  con- 
tending parties,  from  the  Papijl  to  the  Quaker 
are  as  ready  to  give  themfelves)  fo  I  hope  I 
fhall  theeafilier  obtain  his  pardon,  if  (belie, 
ving  him)  I  fhall  prove  that  it  is  Truth  and 
Peace  which  he  oppofeth.     And  if  I  offer  him 
a  better  way  to*  fecure  themj  afluring  him 
that  I  agree  with  him  in  his  main  defign ,  to 
t  bring  the   Conformifts  and  Non-conformifts 
9  nearer,  and  to  a  more  amicable  concord  in 
the  Work  of  God,  and  not  to  drive  any  further 
from  mutual  Communion  than  they  are. 


CHAR, 


K?) 


CHAP-    II- 

Tie  Nonconform/}/  J{efolutions,  and  the 
true  State  of  the  £afe  to  be  debated. 

Sett.  **T^E  ic  known  to  the  Reader,  that  the 
-L*name  of  Nonconformifis  was  noc 
made  by  ourfelves  >  hut  by  others,  (as  the 
names  of  the  four  Confeffors,  Dan.  i.  was). 
The  Titles  which  we  affume,  as  (ignifying 
our  own  profefled  Religion,  are  but  thefe,  our 
Religion  is  Cbri/iian,  and  no  other ;  In  oppo- 
fition  to  dividing  Se&s  we  are  Catbolick*  ;  In 
contradiftin&ion  from  Heretickjy  we  cleave  to 
the  Serif  tare  as  our  Rule  ;  In  contradrftin&i- 
on  from  the  Romtin  Schlfm  and  Corruptions  we 
are  Proteftants  y  that  is,  we  protefl  to  cleave  to 
fimpleCbri$ianitj>  and  to  the  Primitive  puri- 
ty and  {implicit  j  againft  their  introduced  No- 
velties and  Vanities. 

Seft.  2.  hs  to  t\iePoir\to{  Church-Govern- 
ment &  fVarfhip  (the  quarrel  of  the  prcfenc  age) 
l.  We  eafily  confefs  that  we  are  not  all  of  a 
mind  j  which  is  no  caufe  of  alienation  of  of- 
fettions,  nor  fhould  be  a  caufe  oi  mutual  per- 
fections ;  It  being  our  judgment  that  Chrilli- 
ans  are  to  bear  With  one  another  in  greater 
nutters,  than  Epifcopal ,  Presbyterians^  Inle- 
ts 4  pw\ 


finientSyZnd  Jnabaptifts  difagree  in.  And 
if  any  among  us  have  done  otherwife  hereto- 
fore, it  was  from  a  Vice  Homogeneal  to  thac 
of  the  prefent  Conformifts  ,  which  now  they 
fmart  for  j  and  the  Conformifts  may  repent  of 
in  due  time. 

Sett.  3 .  We  take  not  the  name  of  Noncon- 
formists to  be  fuch  a  Cottwrntts  or  Hofe  drawn 
over  the  feveral  parties  by  your  prudence  a9 
ftall  make  them  one,  or  tye  them  clofer  toge- 
ther than  Conformifts  and  Nonconformifts  are. 
I  pray  you  try,  if  you  will  not  believe  us, 
whether  Papifts  or  Quakers  take  us  or  you  fap 
their  greater  Adversaries.  Remember  how 
after  the  Fire  of  London  the  Papifts  in  Print 
did  court  you  as  men  much  nearer  unto  them 
than  we  are,  and  much  liker  to  befriend  them. 
And  I  doubt  you  will  never  make  them  think 
otherwise.  We  take  you  for  n^en  of  the  fame 
Religion  with  us,  and  much  fitter  for  our 
Communion,  than  fuch  Nonconformifts  as  Pa% 
gifts  and  Quakers  are. 

Sett.  4.  But  we  that  fuffer  from  you  (Hear 
it  now>.Jbr^you  fhall  hear  it  from  God  ere 
longj  )  all  the  Poverty  >  Confinements,  Cala- 
mities, Sileiicings  that  have  beer>  infli&ed  on 
us  ,  becaufe  we  would  not  [nhferibe^  fay  , 
{wear,  and  do— *—  you  know  what;  can  no 
more  go  agaihft  our  Confciences,,  in  Conform- 
ing to  one  Another ■ ,  than  to  joh.  Therefore 
you  rauft  not  think  that  Epifc&gal)  Trtsbjtm? 

■  ■'.> 


IP* 

4n,  Independent,  and  Anabaptist ,  will  be  ever 
the  more  of  a  mind  for  this  Toleration.  Till 
Reafon  change  their  Opinions,  they  will  live 
according  to  their  different  Principles  ,  though 
they  love  each  other,  and  liye  in  peace.    And 
becaufe  you  feem  to  be  ignorant  oi  their  <Prin- 
ciples  and  Purpofes ,  I  will  tell  you  fome  of 
them  ,  that  concern  the  matter  in  hand. 
Sett.  j.i. They  take  aMiniftry  to  be  ordinari- 
ly neceflary  to  the  propagating  of  the  Gofpcl  & 
the  faving  of  Souls,  Rom.io.  14,15.^$.  20.17, 
-  1 8,&c.  2.They  fuppofe  that  this  Miniftry  doth 
not  fave  men  ,  as  Wizards  think  that  Charms 
do  heal  men,  by  their  Presence,  Titles,  Names, 
or  Habits ;  By  (landing  in  the  Reading-place, 
or  Pulpit,  or  being  called  the  Parfon  of  the 
Parifli ,  or  laying  his  fet  words  over  them 
when  they  are  dead  2  But  by  fuch  publicly  and 
ferfonal,  frequent,  plain,  ferious  IvjlrnUions%  as 
are  fuited  to  their  ignorance  feenritj,  prefnmp- 
tion  ,  bardheartednefs,  and    love  to  fin  ;  and 
fuch  as  in  other  cafes  would  be  thought  fit  to 
change  mens  minds  and  lives.     3.  They  fup- 
pofe that  when  a  well  rrmmrnclrd-  Speech ttnne* 
hath  been  faid  to  ignorant  impenitent  people, 
one  day  in  a  week,  without  any  perfonal  fa- 
miliar conference  to  fet  it  home ,  and  make 
\t  more  intelligible  ,  the  moft  make  but  little 
more  of  it,  than  if  it  had  been  faid  to  them  in 
an  unknown  Tongue>or  at  Ieaft  remain  ftiU  ig- 
norant and  impenitent .    Yea,  if  Forms  of  Ca- 

techifaas 


(IO) 

techifms  themfelves  be  taught  them ,  it  is  ordi- 
nary with  them  year  after  year  to  fay  the 
Forms,  and  never  underftand  the  matter  fig- 
nified.  4.  They  fuppofe  that  a  greater  number 
of  the  conformable  Priefts,  than  they  arc  wil- 
ling to  mention,do  Preach  fo  ignorantly  and 
dully  in  the  Pulpits ,  and  do  fo  little  of  this 
perfonal  or  private  work  befides,  as  that  there 
is  great  need  of  a  far  greater  number  of  affift- 
aats,  than  all  the  yxzfentfHonconformifts  be. 
5#  They  find  that  fome  places,  of  many  years 
pall,  have  had  no  Minifters  at  all.     <$.   They 
are  not  able  to  confute  the  people  in  too  many 
places,  who  tell  them  that  their  publick  Priefts 
are  fo  defective  in  their  necefTary  qualifications 
for  their  Office,   as  that  they  hold  it  unlawful 
to    own  fuch  for     true  Minifters ,  and  to 
encourage  them  by  their  prefence  ,  or  commie 
the  care  of  their  Souls  to  fuch*   .  7.  They  think 
that  fome  ocher  places  have  godly  ,  able  Con- 
formable Minifters,  whom  thcChnftian  peo- 
ple love  and  honor.     8.  They  think  that  Pa- 
nfh  bounds  of  Churches,  are  of  humane  pru- 
dential Conftitution,  and  not  of  Divine  In- 
ftitution  ,  or  unchangeable.     9.  They  think 
thac  a  IhrifhtfHattxMS  a  Parifh,is  not  aCbnrcb; 
nor  a  Pari(hijner,*//*rJb  a  Church-member ; 
for  InfilclsyPaflfis%Htrcticks>Schifmaticl{s  and 
Tyijftnters  may  be  Pariflnoners.      10.  They 
think  that  the  Magiftrace  hath  the  power  of 
the  Temples  and  Tjthts%  and/«£//V^  Mainte- 
nance 


(«) 

vance  and  Liberty^  but  that  he  hath  not  the 
power  of  Ordination  or  Degradation  j  but  a  man 
may  be  a  true  Minifter  without  his  confent , 
and  fo  I  chink  all  Cbnftians  hold.  1 1 .  They 
think  that  fome  of  the  Nonconformijts  were 
true  Paftors  of  their  fcveral  Flocks ,  before 
they  were  filenced  and  caft  out.  12.  They 
think  that  the  eje&ing  them  from  the  Temples 
and  Tytbes  did  not  degrade  them ,  nor  make 
them  no  true  Paftors  to  their  Flocks.  13. They 
think  chat  the  Magiftrates  putting  another  Pa. 
rifh  Minifter  in  pofletfion  of  the  Temple  and 
Tythes,  did  not  diflolve  the  forefaid  relation 
of  the  former.  14.  They  think  yet  that  pru- 
dence requireth  Minifter  and  People  to  con- 
fent to  fuch  a  Diffolution  of  their  Relations  y 
where  they  cannot  hold  it  without  greater 
hurt  than  benefit :  Yea,  and  to  confent  that 
theimpofed  Minifter  be  their  Paftor,  when  he 
is  fie  himfelf,  and  the  Worlhip  performed  by 
him  fit  for  them  to  joyn  in.  15.  But  where 
both  are  fir,they  know  no  reafon  but  they  may 
take  both  the  Ejettcd  and  the  Impofed  Perfoa 
conjunctly  for  their  Paftors,  each  being  to  Ad- 
minifter  to  the  fame  Church,  according  to  their 
various  Liberties  &Capackies.i<5.They  greatly 
difference  between London&c fuch  like  populous 
Cities, &  Country  Pari(hes,becaufe  the  burn- 
ing of  Churches ,  the  greatnefs  of  Parifhes  , 
*id  the  paucity  ofMinifters  in  London  is  fuch, 
that  the  tenth  perfon  in  feveral  Parifhes  cannot 

come 


(") 

come  to  Church  if  they  would.  17.  In  fuch 
places  therefore  they  purpofe  to  hold  cheir 
Meetings  at  the  time  of  the  Parifh  meeting  , 
becaufe  it  will  be  no  hindrance  to  it.  1 8.  So 
they  do  alfo  in  thofe  Parifhes  where  the  Parifh 
Prieft  is  unfit  to  be  owned  in  that  Relation. 
19.  Where  there  is  a  faithful  Pallor  in  the  Pa- 
rifh Church  whom  yet  half  the  people  cannot 
hear,  cheywill  not  draw  the  people  from 
him,  nordifparagehim  to  hinder  the  fuccefs 
of  his  labors  ,  but  rather  perfwade  them  to 
honor  him,  heat  him,  and  obey  his  Do&rine; 
and  to  judge  of  the  Tolerated  Minifter  but  as 
of  his  fellow  fervant  ,  of  the  fame  Religion  , 
helping  in  the  fame  Work  ,  where  all  our  la- 
bours are  too  little.  20^  Where  the  Parifh 
Minifter  is  faithful ,  and  the  Parifh  fmall  e- 
nough,  and  neer  enough  to  Affemble  in  one 
place,  and  the  people  fatisfied  with  the  Li- 
turgical fuppofe  the  fobereft  of  the  Nonconform 
mi/is  (  for  they  are  not  all  of  a  mind  )  will 
gather  no  Church  out  of  that  Parifh , 
but  will  joyn  with  that  Parifh  Church  and 
Minifter  (  fuppofing  them  united  by  confent  ) 
and  will  ufe  their  own  Minifterial  Aififtance, 
at  fuch  other  times,  and  place,  and  manner,  as 
fhali  beft  tend  to  keep  up  Love  and  Concord, 
and  to  further  and  not  hinder  the  fucceffes  of 
the  publick  Minifter.  21.  I  hope  no  man 
worthy  the  name  of  a  Minifter  ,  will  dream 
that  Sngland  fhould  have  no  more  Teachers, 

thaa 


\k3J 

than  there  arc  (  or  are  like  to  be  )  Nonconform 
rnifts :  Or  will  think  it  his  duty  to  hinder  the' 
Labors  of  any  fober  Proteftant  Minifters :  Nay, 
I  hope  they  will  all  underftand  ,  that  it  was 
never  more  their  Duty  nor  their    Intereft  to 
cherifh  all  brotherly  Love  and  Concord  with 
fuch;  and  woe  be  to  that  man  who  ever  he 
be,  whether  a  Selfijh  envious  Conformist,  or  a 
SchifmaticalfaElioui  Nonconformifi ,  that  after 
all  fuch  (ins  and  fad  experience  of  the  fruits, 
(hall  yet  hinder  the  Concord  of  Proteftant  Cbri- 
ftiansy  I  had  almoft  faid,  or  that  doth  not  hear- 
tily and  diligently  promote  it.     22.  He   that 
had  rather  ten  thoufand  perfons  ftayM  idlely 
at  home  ,  or  went  to  Sports  or  Drinking  ,  in 
Stefney  parifh,  or  (jiles  Cripplegate,  or  Sepul- 
cbersy  or  Martins  in  the  Fields,  or  Giles  in  the 
Fields,  or  Clement  Vanes,  Sec.  than  a  Non- 
conformift  fhould  preach  to  them  ,  I  wUl  not 
foul  my  paper  by  calling  him  as  he  deferveth, 
though  he  pretend  that  gathering  a  Church 
out  of  a  Church,  is  a  thing  that  he  oppofeth. 
23. In  all  thefe  Cafes  following,the  Noncon* 
formifts  will  hold  diftin6\  Church-Afl'erablies 
from  the  Parifti   Churches.     1.  Where  the 
Parifh  Church  is  not  capable  of  them ,  as  was 
laft  inftanced,    by   reafon    of   the    number. 
2.  When  the  Parifh  Prieft  is  one  to   whom 
wife  men  may  not  commit  the  care  of  their 
Souls ,  and  one  whofe  Miniftry  is  not  to  be 
.  owned,  (  1  would  there  were  none  fuch.) 

J,  When 


C*4) 
j.  When  the  Eje&ed  Minifter  in  faro  corfci- 

tntU  &  Ecclejta  vere  fie  ditt* ,  recaineth  flill 
his  Ancient  Relation  to  his  Flock,  and  part  of 
them  Schifmatically  feparate  from  him ,  and 
joyn  with  an  intruder  publickly ,  that  never 
had  a  lawful  Call,  and  the  other  half  feparate 
not  from  their  ancient  Pallor.  Its  poflible  the 
obtruder,  though  he  have  the  Temple,may  be 
the  Schifmatick.  Ask  Dr.  wild,  and  Dr.  Gun- 
ning whecher  they  thought  notfo  i4.year$ 
ago.  4*  It  may  be  fome  that  are  more  com- 
plyant  than  my  fclf  with  good  peoples  weak- 
ness and  humours  ,  when  there  is  none  of 
the  forefaid  Reafons,  may  rather  choofe  to  be 
Paftors  to  honeft  Separatiftsy  or  Anabaptiftst 
than  bydeferting  them  to  leave  them  to  do  worfe. 
And  what  great  matter  of  injury  or  provoca- 
tion fhould  this  feem  to  any  peaceable  man  t 
Envy  is  too  odious  a  thing  for  any  Servant  of 
Chrift  to  own.  Is  ij:  in  the  power  of  Anabaf- 
tifts  to  bring  all  their  judgments  to  yours. 
And  till  they  can ,  muft  they  be  quite  caft  off. 
Who  knoweth  not  how  many  Ages  the  Nova- 
tianswtrt  tolerated  by  the  wifeft  and  godly- 
eft  Emperors  and  Bifhops ;  yea,  what  black 
characters  are  given  by  pious  Hiftorians ,  of 
Ithacins,  and  his  fellow  Bifhops,  who  firft  in 
France  did  fet  the  Sword  awork  even  ag&inft 
Herefies, and  of  Cyril  at  Alexandria,  who  firft 
as  a  Bifliop  ufed  it  himfelf.  y  .But  that's  ngt  all : 
What  if  any  number  of  perfons  as  good  as  you, 

(hall 


(hall  think  that  the  Liturgie  is  guilty  of  all 
the  Vifordtrs  and  Vefctts  which  once  were 
charged  on  it,  and  of  fame  Do&rinal  Corrupt 
cionsfitice:  And  what  if  they  think  that  the 
Pariih  Churches  arc  void  of  Chrifts  true  Dif- 
cipline,and  are  under  an  Alien,  on£  which 
they  judge  unlawful.  What  if  they  fay  that 
yet  your  Churches  may  be  true  Churches,  and 
all  this  may  be  fubmitted  to,  when  we  can  have 
and  do  no  better  j  but  he  that  can  ferve  God 
in  a  manner  more  agreeable  to  his  Word,  is 
bound  to  do  it ;  and  not  to  offer  God  the 
worft,  when  the  King  alloweth  us  to  do  our 
beft.  And  if  withall  they  ky,that  you  reiufe 
them  and  they  refufe  not  you  :  You  will  not 
give  them  the  Lords  Supper ♦  uniefs  they  take 
it  kneeling  (  which  I  think  they  may  do,  but 
they  think  otherwife)  you  will  not  Baptize 
their  Children  without  the  tranfient  Image 
of  the  Crofs  as  a  dedicating  fign,  &c.  If  in  this 
cafe  they  choofe  a  diftindt  Church-AfTembly 
and  Paftor,and  Mode  of  Worfhip;  what  harm 
is  this  to  you  or  any  one ,  and  why  fhould  ic 
break  Love  and  Peace?  24.  But  in  this  laft 
Cafe  I  fuppofe  the  moft  of  the  Nonconformifts 
that  live  in  Country  Parifhes  which  have  good 
Minifters  of  their  own,  will  not  call  themfclves 
a  diftind  Church  (totally)  but  wiJI  hold 
their  meetings  as  Ckappel- Meetings  are  held  5 
Preaching  the  Word  and  Communicating  ,"„ 
the  Sacraments  in  the  beft  way  they  can  amono 


(I*) 

ftemfelve's  •  but  fo  as  not  to  unchurch  thi  P£J 
rifh  Church  as  none,  or  to  withdraw  them- 
felves  from  their  Communion  ;  but  will  keep 
all  loving  correfpondence  with  them^  and  fea- 
lonably  lometimes  Communicate  with  them', 
to  fhew  their  principles  by  their  pra&ice.  For 
the  benefit  of  Chriftian  L$ve  and  Coniord>  may 
make  it  beft  for  certain  feafons  to  joyn  even 
in  defe&ive  Modes  of  Worfhip,as  Chrift  did  in 
the  Synagogues  &  Temple  in  his  time.  Though 
the  leaft  defe&ive  muft  be  chofen  when  no  fuch 
accidental  reafons  fway  the  other  way.  And 
perhaps  fome  Nonconformlfts  own  Adminiftra- 
tions  may  be  as  defective  as  the  Litwgxe. 
15.  Where  the  people  are  fatisfied  with  the 
Parifh- Church  Communion  ,  I  fuppofe  the 
Nontonformifls  will  only  help  to  inllruft  therri 
at  feafonable  timss ,  and  not  meddle  with 
the  Sacramental  Adminiftrations.  2<f.  The 
fame  practice  may  be  done  on  various  Prin- 
ciples ;  and  many  Nonconformifls  may  gather 
Chuches  in  the  forenamed  Cafes,  without  turn- 
ing Separatifts,  or  forfaking  any  of  their  for- 
mer principles.  Their  differences  will  ap- 
pear in  theferefpe&s.  i.  They  will  not  pro- 
nounce any  of  your  Pariftt  Churches  7VW/, 
which  have  lawful  Minifters.  2.  They  will 
not  fay  that  your  Worfhip  is  fuch  as  no  man 
may  lawfully  Communicate  in.  j.  They 
foil  hold  that  Pariih-bounds  are  very  conve- 
nient (  chough  not  abfohiteiy  neceffary  }  to  be 

Church-' 


Church-bounds :  not  taking  every  Parifliiqne 
to  be  of  the  Church,  but  none  (ordinarily)but 
Pariiliioners  to  be  of  the  Church.  4,  They 
are  driven  from  tne  Parifh-Mimftry  againft 
their  wills,  and  had  far  rather  hold  their  an- 
tienc  ftations.  y.  They  will  thankfully  re- 
turn to  them  when  ever  chey  have  leave  j  And 
earnedly  pray  that  thefe  feeinings  and  fhews  of 
feparation  may  ceafe,  the  occafion  of  them  be- 
ing taken  away.  6.  They  prefer  their  own 
manner  of  worshipping  God,  as  better  than  the 
Liturgy  in  their  opinion,  and  therefore  to  be 
chofen  when  they  may  choofe  ;  but  they  ac- 
count it  not  the  only  acceptable  Wor/hip,  but 
are  prefent  with  you  in  fpirit,  defiring  a  part  in 
the  prayers  of  all  true  Chriftians  in  the  world. 
7.  They  fet  not  up  the  Church-Governmcnc 
of  the  People  over  thePaftors,or  themfe!ves>nor 
any  of  the  reft  of  the  Separates  proper  princi- 
ples of  Church-Governmenr.  8.  Laftly,  they 
defire  nothing  more  than  as  Neighbour-Mini- 
iters  in  love  and  concord  to  carry  on  with  you 
the  fame  work  of  Chrift.  And  in  all  thefe 
they  differ  fromS?paratifts,  though  they  gather 
Churches. 

2.6.  The  grand  Difficulty  to  theNoncon- 
formifts  in  their  prefent  condition,  Iieth  but  in 
this  one  cafe,  Whether  in  competent  Pari[hesj 
which  have  able  and  godly  Conformable  Mwi- 
ftersytke  obligation  to  hold  Union  and  Communion 
with  the  Parijh  Churchy  or  tht  obligation  to  ex*> 
B  "         itcift 


C  x*  ) 

ercife  a  more  regular  way  of  Church-VifcipHne 
and  Worfhip  than  the  Parijh  Churches  do  or  mil 
do  j  fhould  be  judged  the  more  prevalent ;  And 
confequently  whether  they  fhould  gather 
Churches  out  of  Churches  in  this  cafe.  For  in 
the  other  forementioned  cafes  the  anfwer  is  more 
eafie.  I  (hall  give  my  own  opinion  as  follow* 
eth  :  i.  It  is  lawful  and  a  duty  to  be  a  mem- 
ber  of  fuch  a  Parifh-Church,  when  we  can  have 
and  do  no  better*  2.  We  cannot  have  or  do 
better,  when  it  cannot  be  without  a  greater 
hurt  to  the  Publick  Intereft  of  the  Gofpel,  the 
Church,  and  the  Souls  of  other  men,  than  the 
benefit  to  us  and  others  is  like  to  countervail. 
That  cannot  be  done  lawfully  which  cannot  be 
done  without  doing  more  hurt  than  good,  and 
deftroying  the  end. 

Obj.  We  muft  do  that  which  God  bids  us% 
and  leave  it  to  him  what  fhall  be  thefuccefs. 

Auf.  True.  But  you  muft  prove  then  that 
God  bids  you  do  it ;  for  we  will  not  take  your 
word.  Affirmatives  bind  not  to  all  times  :  No 
duty  is  at  all  times  a  dury  ;  Nay,  out  of  fea- 
fon  it  is  a  fin.  He  that  faith,  Pray  continually, 
would  not  have  you  pray  when  you  fhould 
ftfeach  or  hear,  or  be  quenching  a  Fire  in  the 
Town  :  He  that  commanded  Sacrifice,  fet  fome 
to  learn  the  meaning  of  thel'e  words  [/  will  have 
thercy^  and  not  facrifice."]  There  is  few  of  you 
but  would  forbear  a  Sermon  or  Prayer  to  fave 
your  own  or -others  lives :  And  you  receive  the 

Sac* a- 


Sacrament  but  once  a  morveth  (at  mod)  which 
the  Primitive    Churches   ufed    every  Lords 
Day.     3.    The   fame   pra&ice  than    in    one 
place  (  where  ic  will  do  more  good  than  hurt) 
is  a  duty  ,  which  in  another  place  (  where  ic 
will  do  more  hurt  than  good  )  is  a  fin.  4.  The 
Cafe  is  now  of  fo  great  moment  that  no  Mini- 
fter  fhould  rafhfy  determine  it  forjiimfelF,  nor 
upon  the  defires  of  feme  of  the  people  only?but 
fltould  confuk  with  wile  and  fober  men  thac 
are  impartial.  5.  The  benefits  to  be  expected 
and  compared  ,  are  thu-w,    1.  The  pleahng  of 
God  (when we  know  it  is  his  will)   and  the 
prolit  of  mens  Souls  y  by  the  moil   regular 
manner  of  D/fr/V    ;   and  Warfhly:     2,  The 
leering  up  an  instable  example  of  right  D;fci- 
}>lit?e  and  fPbrjhif  to  other  Churches  (  but  then 
wee  to  them  tha:  f:c  up  a  worfe.  )     p  The 
fatisfyingtheCoiiiciences  of  feme  honeil  mi- 
ftakiifg  people  y    who  think  (  crroncoufly  ) 
that  a  Conforming  Minifter  may  no:  be  Com- 
municated with  y  cr  at  leaf!  not  in  the  life  of  . 
the  Litargicy  or  in  a  Pariih  Church  ,  br  that 
the  Sacrament  may  not  be  received  kneeling, 
6.  The  evils  to  be  feared  ,  and  compared  with 
the  benefits,  are  thefe.     i.   The  exafperating 
of  the  minds  of  perfonsfor  number  or  qualirjf 
confiderable;and  fo  alienating  them  from  their 
brethren,  and  h'indrmg  their  good.     2.   And 
thereby  weakening  the  Proteflant  inrereft,  in 
d  time  which  requireth  out  greatcfl  Concord. 


(io) 

3.  And  thefettingofpartiesagainft  patties,and 
Churches  againft  Churches,  and  turning  Re- 
ligion into  contentions  and  mutual  oppositions. 

4.  And  the  countenancing  of  unlawful  fepa- 
rationsywhich  will  all  ilielter  themfelves  under 
fuch  examples ;  and  the  dividers  will  n:>t 
fee  the  different  principles  on  which  we  go  , 
while  our  practice  feemeth  to  be  the  fame. 
$.  And  fo  ft'may  be  injurious  to  future  Ages, 
by  feeming  to  give  tliem  prefidents  for  unlaw- 
ful feparations.  6.  And  it  is  not  the  leaft 
evil  confdjuent,  that  wc  fhall  cherifh  not  only 
the  Error  of  thofe  that  think  worfe  of  the  Pa- 
rifh-Worfhip  &  Affemblies  than  there  is  caufe ; 
but  we  fhall  alfo  accidentally  nourifh  their 
pride,  who  will  think  themfelves  a  holier  peo- 
ple, becaufe  they  Erronioufly  over-cenfure  the 
perfons  and  practices  of  others.  7.  The  prime 
great  obligation  for  the  cure  of  all  this,  doth 
lie  upon  fome  of  the  conforming  fidejlt  were  ea- 
fie  for  them,  not  to  filence  Chrifts  Minifters  that 
are  as  wife  and  good  as  themfelves.lt  were  eafie 
for  them,  not  to  punifh  a  godly  perfon  fo  hea^ 
vily  as  an  Excommunication  comes  to,  for  the 
weaknefs  of  fcrupling  a  Sacrament-gefture  ; 
and  not  to  punifh  their  Children  with  being 
unchriftened,  or  themfelves  with  Excommuni- 
cation, who  think  the  dedicating  Image  of  the 
Crofs  unlawful ,  or  think  it  their  own  duty  to 
enter  their  own  Children  into  the  Covenant 
pf  Go  J,  rather  than  Godfathers  that  have  no 

pro- 


(21) 

propriety  in  them,  and  chey  are  fure  never  in-* 
tend  to  take  them  for  their  own ,  or  ufc  them 
as  they  covenant  to  do.  8.  If  on  fuch  oc- 
cafions,  true  godly  Chriftians  are  caft  out  of 
their  Parifh-Churches  >  whether  they  err  or 
nor,  all  Minifters  are  neither  obliged  ,  nor  al- 
lowed to  defertthem  ,  and  fo  to  add  cruelty 
and  affliction  to  the  affliited^  p.  They 
that  think  they  anfwer  all  by  faying  that  thcfe 
peoples  fcruples  are  but  Errcurs  ,  do  buc 
I.  Shew  their  felf-sfteem ,  who  can  call  that 
Errour  which  they  have  faid  fo  little  to  prove 
tobefo  (infomeoftheir  inftances.)  2.  And 
heta1keth  neither  like  a  Pernor  a  Cbri(iia^y 
nor  a  Man,  that  thinkefh  all  that  err  iliould 
be  tart  out  of  the  Church.  10.  To  difcern 
whether  in  this  cafe  a  diiiincl  Church  is  to  be 
gathered  or  nor  ,  is  a  work  of  meer  Chriftiau 
prudence  and  muft  be  determined  by  com- 
paring the  good  and  evil  confequents  together, 
and  difcerning  truly  which  preponderated. 
And  he  that  through  Imprudence  mifjudgeth 
either  way,  doth  linne.  11.  Therefore 
it  is  folly,'  and  fin  for  Minifters  (  Conform- 
able, or  Nonconformable  )  to  expeft  that  in 
this ,  all  fhould  go  the  fame  way,  and  to  cen- 
fure  thofe  that  differ  from  their  Opinion, 
when  they  may  be  under  different  circumftan- 
ccs.  12.  Th:y  that  live  in  London ,  where 
it  hath  ever  been  ufual  to  go  to  Neighbour  Pa- 
rifh-Churches from  their  own,  and  where 
B  3  caitome, 


(22) 

Cuftome,  and   abundance  of  accidents  make 
theinconveniencieslefs,  have  not  fo  much  a- 
gainft    their  different    Church. meeting? ,    as 
;ho.fc  in  Countrey  Towns  and  Parifhes  have* 
13.  Thofe  that  live  where  the  'Honcanformifit 
are  the  main  body  of  the  people  ,  and  the  reft 
arefuchfor  number  and    quality,  whofe  dif- 
pleafure  is  of  lefs  publick  coniequence  ,  have 
the  lefs  againft  their   diftin£t  Church-meet- 
ings.      J4.  Thofe  who  iive  where  the  Non- 
ccnformlflszrc  few  ,  and   the  Conformlfis  for 
nurrber  and  quality    moft  considerable,  and 
are  like  to  be  greatly  exafperaced    by  difhnrt 
Churches,  muft  deny  their    own    perfonal 
conveniences,  lather  than    hinder  a  greater 
good,  and  may  not:  do  that  which  others  may 
do.  1  jv  When  the  publick  good  forbids  it,  the 
tolerated  Miniftcrs  muft  not  gather   ditiinft 
Ghurch-rAGfemblies ,  but  joyn  with  the  pub- 
lick Churches,  and  help  the  people  by  their 
inftru&ions  at  other  times.      i<5.  When  the 
publick  good  forbids  it  not,  the  tolerated  Mi- 
niftcrs muft  hold  diftinit  Affemblies,  for  aflift- 
ance  in  DottrincyWorfhifjxidL  Vifcifllncj  as  near 
as  they  can  to    the  will  of  God*     But  fo  as  to 
furthered  not  difgrace  nor  hinder  ,  the  ho- 
neft   Parifh-Minirters  }  living   widi  them  in 
Unity,Love,and  Peace  :  and  whether  dc  nomi- 
ne   their  Affemblies  fhali  be    called   dlflintl 
Churches  >  is  a  cafe  of   no    great  moment , 
though  1  think  that  it  is  fitted  to  take  them  for 

l"        '  ■'■'■■"         /  iiftfA 


diflinB  Cburchif9  fecnndum  quid,  and  not  fim- 
pliciter,  as  many  Chappels  be :  Seeing  though 
in  the  Affemblies  they  diftin£Uy  worihip 
Godj&c.  yet  they  hold  perfonal  Communion 
in  a  godly  conversation  with  the  reft  of  the 
Chnliians  in  the  Parifh,  and  fhould  (ome- 
times  alfo  aflemble  with  them.  And  fo  much 
for  my  own  opinion  in  this  cafe. 

27.  If  Chriftians  would  but  give  over  the 
cenforioufncfs  ,  contentions  3  and  afaufe  of 
others,  which  different  Aflemblies  in  the  fame 
Town  are  ufually  employed  in,  I  fee  not 
what  great  hurt  it  would  do  any  ,  for  Ana- 
baptifisy  Separatifts ,  &c.  that  canno:  joyr* 
with  the  Parifh-Churches ,  to  have  leave  10 
meet  among  themfelves,  and  worfhip  God  to- 
gether in  peace. 

28.  As  the  weaknefs  of  the  people  incli- 
jiech  them  to  caufelefs  feparations  and  disjuncti- 
ons, fo  the  doleful  Pride  and  Selfifhnefs  of  the 
carnal  part  of  the  CUrgle  ,  hath  in  moft  Ages 
made  them  too  impatient  wich  the  peoples 
weaknefs ;  and  make  fuch  a  noife  and  ftir  in 
the  World,  if  a  few  dq  but  withdraw  from 
their  Communion,  as  if  all  that  difowned 
them,  difowned  Clp ft-  And  all ,bccaufe  Pride 
would  make  every  man  a  God  to  the  World  , 
on  whom  all  mult  depend  ,  whom  all  muft 
honour  and  obey  ,  and  no  man  muft  contra- 
did:  ;  and  all  that  depart  from  them,  an* 
fuppofed  to  accufe  and  undervalue  them.    And 

B  4  thu* 


(24) 

thus  as  of  our  own  fehres ,  fome  men  arife  to 
draw  Dilciples  after  them  ,  fo  others  fee   the 
Churches  in  a  flame,  tor  fear  of  Iofing  any 
of  their  Difciples  or  efteem  •  and    between 
both,  how  fadly  and  for  how  many  Ages, 
have  the  people  of  Chrift  been  torn  in  pieces. 
What  harm  doth  it  me  or  any  other  (if  my 
Pride  will  let  me  be  quiet  )  if  men  that  differ 
from  me  in  fome  Points  of  Judgment,do  quiet- 
ly Worftiip  God ,  by  thunfelves.  But  ic  is  fo 
rare  for  Separated  Aflembiies,  not  to  make  it 
their  Religion  and  work,  to  make  others  odi- 
ous, and  fi6iioufly  to  draw  Difciples  and  aflb- 
ciaces  to  themfelves,  that  they  muft  alio  thank 
themfelves ,  that  others  are  fo  impatient  with 
them  ;  fo  certain  it  is   that  all  fides  are  too 
blame. 

2p.  The  right  Diocefan  hoideth  that  a  Bi- 
fhop  is  effential  to  a  Church,and  confequently 
that  we  have  no  more  Churches  than  Diocejft$% 
and  that  Parifh-Churches  are  properly  no 
Churches,  butChappels,  or  Parts  oi the  Dio- 
cefan-Church  :  And  if  io ,  i.  Then  he  that 
feparateth  from  a  Pariin-Church  ,  feparateth 
from  no  Church  (  though  we  think  other- 
wife.  )  2.  And  as  he  that  went  to  any  Pa- 
riflh  in  the  Diocefs ,  kept  (till  in  his  own 
Church,  fo  a  tolerated  Church  may  be  as  good 
a  Church,  as  fuch  a  Parifh,  and  it  fhould  not 
be  rnade  a  hainous  matter  tor  any  to  go  to  it, 
by  them  that  allow  men  to  go  frcm  Parifh  to 
♦  £ari;(lic  3P?  The 


30.  The  tfonconformifls  hold  that  the  Mi- 
nifterial  Office  is  not  to  betaken  upon  tryal, 
or  for  a  time,  but  durante  vita  cum  capacitate  > 
And  chat  it  is  no  lefs  than ,  1.  Horrid 
Sacriledge;  2.  Perfidious  Covenant-break- 
ing; 3.  Difobedience  to  God;  4.  Cruelty 
to  Souls  ;  y.And  unthankfulnefs  for  great  mer- 
cies, if  any  of  us  (hall  defert  our  undertaken 
Offices  (  yea  though  a  filencing  Diocefan 
fhould  forbid  us  the  exercifeof  it ,  unjuftly.  ) 
Therefore  Preach  and  Officiate  while  we  can, 
we  muft. 

31.  Having  told  you  thus  far  the  Noncon- 
formifts  Principles^  I  will  add,  that  [  If  there 
be  any  fuch  Conformable  Clergie  men,  as  firll 
will  do  all  they  can  to  filence  and  ejed:  u>, 
and  forbid  us  to  Preach  the  Gofpel  of  Salvati- 
on, whil'il  many  hundred  thoufands  that  lie 
in  ignorance  and  impenitency^need  more  help, 
and  then  will  do  all  they  can  to  hinder 
our  Reltauration,  and  to  keep  us  hlent :  And 
laftly,  when  His  Majefties  Prudence  and  Cle- 
mency giveth  us  liberty  to  Preach  ,  when 
they  can  no  longer  hinder  us  by  force ,  would 
ftroak  us  into  filence  and  neglect  of  our  Office, 
by  a  few  fuch  filly  and  confident  reafonings  as 
this>i^Wufeth,asif  to  hinder  our  Miniftry 
and  Labour  one  way  or  other  were  their  in- 
tereft  and  work,  I  will  not  offend  the  Readers 
.Ears,  by  giving  them  the  name  that  I  think 
they  deferve  5  but  wifh  thcoi  to  read  >  1  Tbef. 

2.15, 


2.  i  Jf>»^>  And  to  tell  them  (  by  what  names 
or  Titles  foever  they  be  diftinguiftied  )  that  J 
that  am  a  dying  man,  would  be  loth  to 
(land  in  their  cafe  before  God,  and  that  if  they 
and  I  were  well  agreed,  that  there  is  indeed  a 
God,a  Chrift,a  Heaven,  and  a  Hell,I  think  we 
fhould  the  eafilier  be  agreed  in  all  the  reft  of 
our  differences.  Some  Teachers  need  theft 
-plain  Admonitions. 


chap.   in. 

The  Queflionijls  ftating  of  his  Queftion 
confidered. 

Sett.  i.L-TAving  difclaimed  the  approving 
*  -"-and  Cenfuring  His  Majeliies  De- 
claration) he  queftioneth  [  whether  it  be  ad- 
vifeable^efpeciallyfor  the  Presbyterians  5  either 
in  Confcience  or  Prudence,  to  take  advantage 
from  His  Majeflies  Declaration^  to  deny  or  r*- 
bate  their  Communion  with  the  Parochial  Con- 
gregations ,  and  to  gather  themfelves  into  di+ 
flintt  and  fepar ate  Churches. 

Sett.  2.  Here  note,  i.  That  the  Epifco- 
paly  or  Eraftian  Nonconformifts,  have  none  of 
his  efpecial  advice.  2.  That  he  feemeth  to 
fpeak  to  none  in  London  or  elfewhere  who 
denied    their   Communion    with  the  Parifti- 

Churches 


(Rtt.) 

Churches  before ;  but  only  to  thofe  t^at 
would  take  advantage  fo  to  do  from  His  Maje- 
fticf  Declaration.  5.  That  he  calletli  them 
not  Parochial  Churches ,  but  Congregations. 
4.  That  he  joyneth  two  queftions  into  one  , 
which  therefore  mult  be  diflinctly  an- 
fwered. 

Sett.  3  •  My  Anfwer  is,  1 .  It  is  not  advis- 
able for  zny  Nonconformifts ,  who  before  held 
rhe  Parifh  Congregations  to  be  true  Churches, 
and  their  communion  lawful ,  and  ufed  to 
communicate  with  them  ,  to  change  thefe 
principles,  nor  to  renounce,  or  totally  forbear 
fuch  communion.  2.  But  it  is  advifeable  for 
them,  when  they  are  caft  cue  of  the  Parifh- 
Miniftry,  and  forbidden  to  Preach  in  the  Pa- 
ri ill- Temples,  but  have  leave  to  exercife  their 
Mimftry  eliewhere,  accordingly  eUewhere  to 
exercife  it ;  either  in  flared,  or  cccafional  Af- 
femblies ,  that  fhali  be  fans  or  no  farts  of  the 
Parifh-Congregations,  as  the  variety  of  places 
and  cafes  fhall  require,  which  Afkmblies  fhali 
be  diftlr.fl;  and  [(parate  from  the  faid  Perjfh- 
Congregations ,  either  as  Chappels  be,  or 
(  fomewhere  )  r.sone  Parifh- Congregation  is 
fepartte  from  ar.cther ,  being  not  one,  nor  in 
one  plncc,  if  you  will  call  thac  feparation.  But 
thisbutfera  time,  with  Piofeffion  of  great 
unwillingness  and  of  a  dehreto  return  into 
the  Parochial  Miniitery  ,  as  foon  as  you  can 
procure  them  leave  :  Bur  rciolviog  not  to  be 

mi 


Idle,  Cruel,  Sacrilegious ,  and  Perfidious  till 
then,  buc  to  live  wich  all  godly  conformable 
Minifters,  with  Chriftian  Love ,  and  Peace, 
and  Concord,  if  it  be  poffible,  and  you  will 
give  them  leave. 

Sett.  4#  When  you  fay  [  They  cannot  but 
under/land  the  Declaration  to  be  a  very  (IriU 
Prohibition  of  all  fucb  private  Meetings  as  the 
Law  flUes  Conventicles]  you  know  not 
whofe  under/landings  you  talk  of*  I.  We 
know  not ,  that  the  Law  doth  not  call  our 
Houfe-MeetingSy  now  tolerated  ( though  the 
door  be  open  )  Conventicles :  If  not,  it  had 
been  well  for  us,  if  you  would  have  proved  ic 
fooner.  2.  And  if  you  are  fare  that  the  Law 
calleth  none  of  the  Papifls  tolerated  private 
Meetings,  Conventicles,  we  knew  not  fo  much  : 
And  why  fhould  you  feign  us  to  be  as  wife  as 
your  felf. 

Sett.  5.  As  to  your  three  wayes,  I  anfwer 
you  ; 

i#  I  believe  the  Presbyterians  will  joyn 
with  the  Independents,  not  as  a  SeB  (  as  you 
call  them  )  buc  in  all  that  they  think  good  and 
warrantable. 

2.  That  they  will  exercife  their  Miniftery, 
as  they  are  by  Covenant  engaged,  for  Chtift 
and  mens  Souls ,  and  will  bear  with  you  >  if 
you  call  that  [  fetting  up  for  themfelves  ] 
(  hoping  yet  that  you  fee  not  up  wholly  for  your 
/<r/wjthatfpeakfo. ) 

3.  An4 


3.  And  they  will  worfhip  God  with  the 
Se&  of  the  Diocefan  Prelatijls  in  the  Parifli- 
Churches  alfo,  as  far  as  will  ftand  with  the  due 
exercife  of  their  proper  Miniftery  :  But  will 
not  promife  you  to  give  over  Preaching  to  be- 
come your  conftant  Auditors  or  Difciples. 

Sett.  6.  You  underftand  neither  the  Men 
that  you  talk  of,  nor  their  Caufe :  they  take 
not  the  Independents  Affemblies  to  be  [  the 
Tents  of  Enemies  ;]  they  leave  terms  of  Enmi- 
tj  among  Brethren  ,  to  thofe  that  have  enm\- 
r/in  their  hearts.     Nor  do  they  [  tamely  de- 
liver up  the  Canfe.  ]  The  moft  Nonconform- 
able  Minifters  of  my  acquaintance,    whofe 
judgment  I  ever  asked  of   that  matter,  do 
feemto  think  as  I  my  felfdo,  that  the  Epif* 
copal,  Pretbyterians,  Independents,  and  Erafti- 
ans7  have  each  of  them  fome  Truth  and  Good 
which  above  the  reft  they  do  defend ;  and 
each  of  them  fome  fpecial  miftake,  where  they 
err  above  the  reft :  And  if  we  could  know  it, 
we  would  take  the  Beft  from  among  them  all, 
and   leave    the    worfl: :  And    not  maintain 
Church-quarrels ,  under  pretenfe ,  tha:  we 
muft  not  flit  to  the  Enemy ,  and  give  up  the 
Canfe. 

SeU.  7.  O  the  confidence  of  this  Advifer  in 
his  own  underftanding }  that  dare  fay  [  That 
he  isfure  that  the  Presbyterians  have  no  reafon 
to  engage  in  a  way  of  publicly  fVorfhip  coniradi- 
(iintt  to  oht  Parochial  Congregations,  j 

i.Thac 


(}0) 

i.  That  is  contradlflintt  which  is  not  oppo* 
Jtte  ,  or  alverfe  ,  hue  either  co-ordinate  (  as 
one  Parifh  to  another  )  or  fubdrdinate  (  as  a 
Chappel). 

2.  And  what  man  /  Is  a  P^ove  and  "Dedication 
to  Preach  theGofpel  ,  7*0  reafon  to  Preach  ic 
elfewhere,  when  its  forbidden  us  in  your  Af- 
femblies?  Is  the  alienation  of  Confecrated 
perfonsxw  Sacriledg:  ?  Is  the  notorious  need 
of  many  hundred  thoufand  SoulS  no  reafon  } 
Is  rheexercifirg  of  a  Worfhip  and  Difcipline 
more  agreeable  to  Gods  Word  than  yours 
(.we  arc  ready  to  give  you  the  proof  when  we 
have  leave,)  no  reafon?  Is  the  relieving  of 
many  godly  Christians,  who  are  caft  out  of 
your  communion,  becaufe  they  dare  not  Con. 
form,*?*  reafon  ?Had  we  had  leave  to  have  con- 
/^ted  the  filly  reafonings  of  Mr.  Fnlwood  and 
foirie  filth  ochcr  Pamphleteers ,  produced  a- 
aginft  the  Nonconformists  ,  we  had  Ion<*  ago 
flic  wed  you  caufe  to  reprefs  fuch  felf  eftccrri, 
which  dare  fay  [  I  am  fufe,  they  have  no 
reafon  ]. 

Sett.  8.  And  this  man  that  is  fure  they 
have  no  reafon  for  tt  y  could  ii.ftance  in  no 
greater  than  the  Objection,  that  It  will  feem 
an  undervaluing  their  liberty  ,  and  ingratitude 
to  the  King. 

i.  We  have  no  reafon  to  be  ungrateful  to 
the  King,  nor  to  undervalue  our  Liberty. 

2.  But  did  that  move  the  London  Mini* 

fters 


fters  and  others,to  Preach  all  this  while,  before 
the  Declaration. 

3.  When  you  have  proved  that  Greater 
Hurt  than  Good ,  will  follow  our  Preaching 
and  Miniftry ;  and  when  you  have  proved 
that  though  all  the  Papists  in  England,  do  ufc 
the  liberty  of  the  Toleration  in  the  Declaration, 
yet  the  tynconformitts  muft  not  ,  bat  filently 
leave  our  (ufficient  Conformists  to  do  all  the 
workagainlt  Ignorance,  Infidelity,  Poperyf 
and  Senfuality  themfelves ;  I  fay,  when  you 
have  proved  this  well,  you  may  again  blefs 
the  people  with  our  filence  ,  and  perfwade  us 
tofilenceour  felves,  when  you  cannot  do  ic 
otherwife. 

Sett.  9.  But  he  faith  (p.  6.  )  Their  inge- 
nuity and  gratitude  to  (jod  and  the  King  will 
he  better  exprejfed  by  their  Conformity,  and  Loy- 
al obedience  to  the  known  Laws,  than  by  the  ufe 
of  the  Liberty  permitted  to  the  contrary. 

Anfw.  He  knoweth  that  we  muft  not  give 
him  our  Reafons  againft  Conformity.  He 
cannot  but  know  that  many  that  Conform 
not,  in  all  the  matters  of  Subfcriptions,  Decla- 
rations, Oathes,  Difcipline,  &c.  (not  medling 
with  other  mens  Confciences>)  do  think  ic 
would  be  in  them  a  compofition  of  fuch  hai- 
nous  crimes,  as  they  do  forbear  to  name  them, 
for  fear  of  feeming  to  be  accufers  of  other s;and 
to  be  unpeaceable:  And  if  he  think  that  fuch 
toysj  as  Mr*  FttfooofyMr.  Stilemansyand  Mr. 


Hinkleys,&c*  ihould  fatisfie  them,  hethinfcs 
contemptibly  of  their  underftandings.  And 
he  that  by  fuch  poor  temptation*  as  tbofe  ,  will 
yield  to  what  their  Confciences  fear,  can  fcarce 
tell  what  he  may  not  yield  to  before  he  dieth. 
Let  him  procure  us  leave  ,  but  to  publifh  ours 
Reafons  agatnft  Conformity  and  then  let  him 
tell  us  that  we  were  letter  Conform  P  when  he 
hath  anfwered  them.  It's  eafie  to  talk  when 
none  muft  confute  him,  and  to  brave  it  againft 
one  whofetdngue  is  tyed. 

'iVS.  10.  His  next  Suppofition  is,  that  the 
matter  of  this  Liberty  is  evil.  I  am  glad  it  is 
not  evil  for  the  Con for mi Jt s  to  Preach  and 
WorfhipGody  left  it  would  have  been  lawful 
to  none  at  all.  We  are  glad  that  Chrift  is 
Preached,  even  by  them  that  do  it  content}- 
oufly  5  in  envy  and  flrife>  to  add  to  our  w4ff.itti- 
ons  and  Bonis  :  But  we  will  not  our  f elves  give 
over  Preachings  Praying ,  nor  the  reft  of  the 
Chriftian  Religion,  becaufe  fuch  men  can  call 
it  evil.  He  that  faith  our  Preaching  is  evil,mzy 
tempt  men  to  think  that  the  Gofpel  which  we 
Preach  is  evil,or  that  Infidelity,  AtheifmySenfu. 
ality,  and  wickjdnefs  which  we  Preach  againft 
is  good  or  harmlefs.  Is  it  good  inyoH%  and  evil 
in  us  to  Preach  the  fame  Gofpel  ?  If  you  curn 
to  them  that  Calumniate  us  of  Preaching 
Errour,  or  Sedition  ,  the  Law  is  open ,  our 
Writings  and  Dottrine  are  eahly  tryed :  If 
we  fay    evil   ,  bear     witnefs  of  the  evil : 

// 


CI 


V   IS  J 


If  not  7  takjt  heed  of   calling   it  evil  ,   Ifa« 
5.  20. 


CHAP.     IV. 

Whether  to  gather  them f elves  intodiftincl 
andjeparate  Congregations  ,  is  unlaw- 
ful in  the  judgment  of  the  Presbyteri- 
ans themfelves  i 

Sift*  i.  T^He  proving  the  Affirmative  is  hf$ 
-■*  work,  pag.  7,  &c.  But  the  Pref- 
bjterlans  do  no:  love  confu/ion  ,  nor  to  difpute 
fuch  blindly-ftated  Queftions.  They  diltin- 
guifh, 

1.  Between  bare  Local  diftinBton ,  and 
ftparaiion  *,  and  that  which  is  eminently  called 
Separation  in  England,  and  denominated  from 
the  Separati&SjV/hich  is  \_ffparating  from  the 
Parijh-Cbftrcbes,  Afinittrjy&  H'crfhip,  as  £*//*£ 
*<?  f  rn*  Churches,  Mimjlry  and  PForfhip  ;  or  ac 
lead  fuch  as  noChriftians  may  lawfully  Com- 
municate with,  in  JhOrittf}  Prayer  ,  and  £*- 
cramentsywhenthej  can  have  no  belter. ,  ]  In 
the  farmer  fenfe  (  as  is  faid  )  one  Paritli- 
Church  is  feparati  from  another.  And  if 
there  he  any  difference  in  their  Forms  or 
Modes  of  Worship  j  fo  was  there  between  £.*- 
C  fit 


(34) 

fil  at  CafartAy  and  the  Church  at  Neocefarea^ 
and  berween  J?<m0*  and  MilUne*  and  between 
almoft  all  the  Catholick  Bifhops  for  many 
hundred  years.  Andfo  now,  one  PariLh-Mi- 
nifter  prayeth  freely  in  the  Pulpit  after  Ser- 
mon, and  before;  another  by  a  Form  ;  a  third 
biddeth  prayer  before^  and  a  fourth  prayeth 
not  afterward  at  all.  And  yet  thefe  are  not 
feparared  Churches,  any  otherwife  than  Local- 
ly* and  infuch  Modal  differences. 

2.  They  diftinguifh  between  a  Parifh- 
Church  thatimpcfeth  nothing  on  the  Mini- 
sters or  People  that  God  forbiddechi  and  one 
that  doth* 

3.  And  between  a  Parifh-Church  that  is 
Reformable  in  that  which  notorioufly  need- 
eih  Reformation  ^  and  one  that  folemnly  Co- 
venanted! againft  Reformation. 

4.  They  diltinguifh  between  a  Pariili- 
Church  that  is  fuch,  and  owneth  it  felf  for 
fuch  :  And  a  Panlh-Congregation  that  hath 
no  proper  Biiliop,  nor  Paftor  who  hath  the 
power  of  the  Keys  of  Government,  but  is  cal- 
led by  its  Rulers  only  a  part  of  a  Church,  (Di- 
ocefan  )  and  the  Minilter,  but  the  Diocefan 
Bifhops  Curat. 

y.  They  dift:nguifh  between  a  Parifh- 
Church  where  the  Minifters  in  queftion  are 
forbidden  to  preach,  and  the  People  to  have 
the  Sacrament,  or  their  Children  to  be  bapti- 
zed, unlefs  they  will  fay  and  do  fuch  chings,as 

they 


tney  aare  not  go  tor  tear  or  uoa  s  anpieaiure  j 
And. a  Parifh-Church,  that  drivcch  none  fuch 
away  from  Miniftry  or  Communion.  And 
now  will  this  Advifer  prove  that  what  any 
Pre sbyterlans  ever  (aid  in  one  cafe,  muft  reach 
to  all  others,  tha:  are  fo  different. 

Sett.  2.  He  next  queftionech,  i.  [Do you 
not  allow  cur  Parochial,  Churches  to  be  true 
Churches  ?  ] 

Anfw.  Yea,  thofe  of  them-  that  have  true 
Pa/tors,  but  no  others,  (in  a  political  or  orga- 
nized ferSe.) 

2.     Quefl:.  And    mil  you  not    account 

fuch    Congregations   a*  jball  be  gathered  to  jour 
allowed  places  to  be  true  Churches  alfo  ?  ] 

Anfw.  In  fome  places  we  will,  and  in  fomc 
we  will  take  them  but  as  parts  of  the  Parifh- 
Church  i  And  in  fome  we  will  take  them  but 
for  temporary  Affemblies,  waiting  for  a  fixed 
better  ftate  ;  And  in  fome  we  will  take  them 
for  Churches  fecuniumquii,  but  not  fimp I 'let- 
ter ;  Even  as  the  cafe  of  each  particular  place 
requireth. 

Seft.  3.  And  hence  follows  the  cry  of 
Schifm,  Independents,  Brorvnifls,  rank^Separa- 
ti/isy  &c.  As  if  the  Minifters  qf  Chrift  did 
know  no  difference  between  noife  and  fenfe. 
Yea,  we  are  told  of  Schifrn  from  the  Church  of 
England,  when  I  wouLd  give  him  all  the  mo. 
ney  in  my  purfe,  to  make  meunderftand  whac 
the  Church  of  England  is. 

C  3  i.  t 


Eccltjitftical  Head  "that  muft  denominate  it, 
as  an  eflential  part. 

2, 1  take  it  for  granted  he  fpeaks  of  a  Church 
organized  in  a  proper  political  fenfe,  as  confti- 
tuccd  of  a  Pars  regtnsy  and  a  Tars  fabdit*  j 
and  not  as  an  ungoverned  Community. 

3,  I  take  it  for  granted  that  we  have  two 
Archb  ihops,  and  they  tell  me,  that  one  is  not 
under  the  Government  of  the  other.  And  if 
that  be  true,  we  may  have  a  Church  of  Cantcr- 
btiry^ud  a  Church  of  York }  but  no  one  Church 
©f  England  as  denominated  from  one  of  them 
as  Head. 

4,  I  take  it  for  granted  that  the  Convoca- 
tion is  not  the  Conftitutive-Head,  i.  Becaufe 
it  is  fo  feldom  in  being,  that  then  we  fhould 
feldom  have  ^  Church  of  England :  For  the 
Eflence  ceafeth  with  the  effential  part.  2.  And 
the  Canon  thundreth  againft  them  that  deny 
the  Convocation  to  be  the  Reprefentative- 
Church  of  England.  If  it  mean  of  the  whole 
Church,  Paftors  and  People,  then  the  People 
ru'e,  and  make  Canons  by  them  (as  the  Sepa- 
rates hold :)  And  it  is  the  Head  of  theChurch 
only  that  we  -enquire  after.  If  they  mean  the 
Clergy }  then  the  Reprefentative-Church  or 
Head  mufti  be  fomewhac  diftindt  from  the 
Real  reprefented.  If  it  be  the  whole  Clergy 
that  is  the  Real  Reprefented-Church  or  Head, 

then 


(37  ) 

then  we  are  Popular,  or  Presbyterian  ;  for  the 
Presbyters  are  the  major  pare  by  far.  And 
what  Rulers  are  they  that  never  rule  the 
Church  as  one,  by  themfelves  ,  but  cnlyby 
Reprefentatives.  I  confefs  eafily  that  many 
Churches  united  under  one  King,  and  living 
in  one  Kingdom,  and  having  thereby  fpecial 
opportunity  for  Synods,  and  Correfponder.ee  * 
and  Concord,  may  be  called  ene  Church,  by 
a  denomination,  i.  accidental,  2.  and  hu- 
mane, no:  ufed  in  Scripture  5  And  we  will  noc 
be  fo  quarrelfome  as  to  avoid  that  language 
where  men  will  needs  ufe  it :  But  it  is  the 
'thing,  and  not  the  Name,  that  we  enquire 
of:  Hbat  is  that  One  EJfential  Conftitutive- 
Head  which  maketh  the  Churches  of  England 
to  be  aU  one  Church,  in  a  proper  political  fenfe, 
that  is,  as  a  Governed* Society}  None  queiti- 
on  the  Civil-Head  j  none  queftion  the  need  of 
Communion  and  Agreement  among  all  thefe 
Churches.  But  the  Queftion  is  only  of  the 
one  Ecclefiaflick.  Confiitutive   Head.     And  if 

m  you  will  have  the  Queftion  to  be  de  nomine, 
pardon  us  for  holding  that  forma  denominat. 
But  if  you  will  denominate  many  Churches 
[One]  from  One  Accident,  inftead  cf  One  In- 
dividual Form  or  Effence ;  and  if  you  will  ufe 
terms  in  Divine  Matcers,  which  God  never  (o 
ufed  in  his  Word,  we  contend  not  againft  you, 
but  only  defire  to  underftand  you,  when  you 

-    charge  us  with  Schifmfrom  the  Church  of  E  g. 
C  3  Ian  U 


land*     We  have  obferved  what  hath  been  the 
effe&of  fach  another  enterprizein  the  Roman 
Empire :  It  was  thought  meet  by  Princes  that 
where  the  Empire   was  One ,    the   Church 
fhould  be  in  fome  fore  One  alio,  which  was 
under  them.     Whereupon  %oms  had  the  chief 
Patriarchate.      But  in  time,  i.  this  Humane- 
Unity  (name  and  thing)  is  pretended  to  be  Di- 
vine j    2.  And  thisO/?*  Imperial  Church  (un- 
der one  Emperour  )  is  taken  to  be  One  Vni- 
verfal  Church y  as  if  the  Indians,   TerfianSy 
and  all  other  Chrifiiaxs  (even  the  Abejfian  Em- 
pire) had  been  part  of  it,  and  the  Orbit  Ro- 
mano* had  been  Orbis  Univerjalu.      3.  And 
then  no  man  is  a  Chriftian  that  is  not  baptized 
into  this  Pj pal  Church,  and  made  a  Subjedt 
of  the  Pope.     Tell  us  what  you  mean  by  our 
Schifm  from  the  Church  of  EvgLni  ?     We  di- 
vide not  our  felves  from  the  King  or  Kingdom, 
or  from  the  particular  Churches  as  concordant 
in  any  neceflary  thing.     If  it  be  only  that  we 
agree  not  with  the  Major  Vote  in  all  Subfcrip- 
tions  ,  Oaths,  cD\[ciyl'int  or  Ceremonies :    No 
more  did. the  Bifhops  in  the  Roman  Empire, 
who  had  various  Liturgies ;  nor  Cjildas  wirlt 
the  Britainsy  nor  ^mbrofe  and  {JMartin  with 
the  Vrench  and  Italian  Bifhops  ;  nor  the  Epi- 
fcopal  party  in  Scotland  heretofore  with  the 
Presbyterians,  when  they  were  the  major  parr* 
Is  every  difference  in  things  unnecefl'ary  from 
the  major  part,    a  Scbrfrnftomthem?  The 

J3ifhops 


B'fhops  thoughc  not  fo  in  England  fifteen 
years  ago:  We  do  noc  go  fo  far  with  you,  as 
Gilda*  with  his  Brit i ill  C'ergy,  who  pronoun- 
ced him  non  exlmlum  Chriftianum ,  no  ry- 
cellent  ChriflUn^  that  called  them  Pritfis  or 
Ministers^  and  not  rather  ProditoreSj  Traitors , 
as  hehimfelf  did.  Nor  do  we  make  fuch  a 
Schiftn  as  Martin  feemed  to  do,who  renounced 
Communion  with  the  Bifliops  and  their  Sy- 
nods (all  his  life)  who  had  profecuted  the 
Pri[cilianijls  \tfith  the  Secular  Sword.  Yet 
neither  of  thefe  holy  men  are  called  Separatifts 
or  Sch'ifmatickj* 

But  perhaps  k  is  our  "Disobedience  to  the 
Church  that  is  our  Schlfm  from  ir.  i.  Buc 
everyone  that  maketh  himfelf  an  Ecclefiaftical 
Governour  over  other  Pallors  and  Churches, 
is  not  therefore  their  rightful  Lord.  The  King 
we  know,  and  his  Officers  we  know,  bur  we 
know  nor  all  that  call  themfelves  our  Lords 
or  Matters.  Not  but  that  obedience  is  the 
eafieft  courfe  of  life,  to  a  quiet  humble  mind  : 
But  fidelity  to  our  King  ccmmandeth  the  dr- 
owning of  Usurpers. 

2.  We  confefs  that  we  do  noc  actually 
obey  the  Civil  unqueftionable  Power  in  every 
particle  about  Gods  Worfhip  which  hath 
been  commanded  us }  I  need  not  tell  you 
why.  No  more  did  the  Chriftians  for  three 
hundred  years  after  Chrift  j  nor  the  Ortho- 
dox Bifhops  in  the  dayes  of  Cor,  ft  antics, 
C  4  \  mar, 


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Valtns  y  &c.  nor  the  Proteftarits  now  iri 
trance  ,  nor  the  Calvinljls  now  in  Sweden  , 
marks  Saxonic  ;  nor  the  Lutherans  under 
inift  Governours,  &c.  We  compare  not 
our  Rulers  ro  any  of  thefe,  in  any  other  re- 
fpedt,  but  only  as  Rulers  j  but  it  you  your 
felves  are  refolved  to  fay  and  [ubfcritey  and 
(wear,  and  do  whatever  lawful  Rulers  bid  you, 
its  poflible  that  before  you  dye,  you  may 
fhew  that  indeed  you  are  not  of  our  minds. 

3.  But  who  ever  took  every  aft  of  difobe- 
dience  in  a  Circumftance,  in  a  Family  or 
Kingdom $o\&  2.  Schifmlxom  that  Family  or 
Kingdom}  Do  you  rule  by  fuch  a  Law  of  Work* 
or  Innocency,\\T\uch  cuts  oft  men  for  every  diso- 
bedience, and  cenfuretb  him  that  cbeyeth  not 
perfe6Uy  in  all  things? 

4.  And  mechinks  this  fhculd  not  be  your 
meaning,  becaufe  by  Nonconformity,  we  more 
difobeyed  cur  Rulers  before  their  Toleration, 
than  Jincc  ;  and  yet  it  is  our  preaching  after 
that  you  call  our  Schifm  from  the  Church. 
You  fee  what  trouble  you  put  men  to,  to  un- 
derftand  you,  becaufe  you  fpeak  unintelligib- 
ly and  confufedly. 

If  you  tell  me  that  the  Presbyterians  owned 
a  National  Church  in  Scotland.    I  anfwer, 

1 .  So  do  I,  as  before  defcribed  ,  that  is ,  as 
denominated,  1  From  an  accident,  and  noc 
from  an  Individuating  Form  y  and  therefore 
equivocally  and  improper  I  ft  2  And  humanely  <> 
and  fo  UKxetffmh,   '  2.  -And 


(40 

2.  And  if  Scots  or  any  Presbyterians  do  it 
btherwife,  that's  nothing  to  me  ,  who  am  no 
more  bound  to  their  Opinion  than  yours.  And  " 
fare  the  Church  of  England  is  not  called  One 
in  the  Presbyterian  fencers  an  Ariftrocracie^ 
or  as  Headed  by  the  whole  Clergie  con- 
junct. 

Sett.  4.  The  reft,  p.  8 ,  9,  10.  need  no 
other  anfwer,  then 

1.  That  the  old  Puritanes  never  held  it  un- 
lawful for  them  to  preach  in  houfes,  even  when 
they  had  no  Toleration. 

2.  As  they  held  it  lawful  to  hold  Lay- com- 
munion with  Parifh-Churches  that  have  true 
Minifters,  lb  do  we. 

3  •  They  never  (aid,  it  was  unlawful  to  hold 
communion  with  any  be/ides  the  Parifh-Chur- 
chesj  no  more  will  we.  What  Law  tyeth  us 
to  be  fuch  Schifmatickj  as  ro  renounce  com- 
munion with  all  ocher  Churches,  except  'Paro- 
chial and  Conformists^  or  what  Nonconformfts 
ever  held  it  ? 

4.  Whofe  confcicnce  fhould  fooner  accufe 
him  oiSchifm;  A  Conformifts,  that  will  hold 
Communion  with  none  but  his  own  party,  but 
feparateth  from  all  the  other  Churches  in  the 
Land?  Or  ours,  that  refolve  to  to  hold  com- 
munion feafonably  with  all  true  Chriflian 
Churches  among  us^  that  teach  not  Here/it, 
nor  preach  down  Holinefs,Lct/r  or  Peace,  and 
deny  us  not  their  communion,  unlefs  we  will 

fin. 


v4z; 

Cm  >  Let  the  impartial  judg  which  of  us  is 
the  Sc'}ifaziick>;<m<\  St  par  at  I  ft. 

y.  Do  you  not  hold  it  lawful  for  a  Miniftcr 
to  remove  from  one  Parifh  to  another  j  and 
for  any  man  for  his  fouls  edification,  to  re- 
move his  dwelling  inio  another  Parifh  where 
is  a  better  Minifter?     A^d  what  if  fort/  Fa- 
milies do  (o?  who  caileth  any  of  this  Separa- 
tion ?  And  what  if  it  had  been  into  the  Pa- 
rifh o(Vedbamy  A(kby,  whitmore,  TreStony 
whenjobn  Rogers^  Arthur  Hilderfham  ,  John 
Ball,  John  Dod>  all  Noncoxformifts,  were  al- 
lowed to   preach  there  without  Conformity; 
Had  this  been  Separation  and  Schifa^ox  not? If 
'je4y  what  Law  of  God  or  Man  forbad  ii?  What 
Church  did  they  divide  from?  If  nay  ywhy  then 
is  it  Sehifm  to  joyn  with  [ucb  men  in  other 
f  laces*     Where  lyeth  your  Point  of  Sehifm 
or  Separation  ?  Is  it  for  going  out  of  their  own 
Parijhes?     I.  So  Men   in   London  have  ever 
done  to   other    Parifh-Churches.     2.  And 
who  ever  made  zParifo  and  a  Church  Syno- 
nyrnal,  Jure  Vivino  ?  Shall  mutable  conveni- 
encies  be  turned  into   immutable  ntcejfities  * 
What  thenfls  it  for  going  to  a  Nonconformist i 
fo  did  thofe  before  mentioned.      Is  it  for  go- 
ing to  a  private  houfe  f     i.  So  did  many  Epif- 
copal   Paftors  fourteen    years  ago.     2.  And 
fome   in    London  iince    the   Fire.     3.    And    , 
its  an  ill  argument  againft  thai),  that  would 
»  fain 


fain  Preach  in  the  publick  Temples,  if  they 
could  have  leave.  As  far  as  I  diicern,  this  dull 
of  Schifm  which  you  would  call  into  other 
mens  eyes  ,  obligeth  you  to  wink  hard , 
left  it  be  blown  back  into  your  own. 

Sczl.  $.  The  love  of  peace,  and  the  fear  of 
frightning  any  further  from  Pariih. commu- 
nion than  I  defcre,  do  oblige  me  to  forbear  fo 
much  as  to  iefcribe  or  name  the  additional 
Conformity ,  and  that  fin  which  Nonconfor- 
mists fear  and  fly  frcm  ,  which  maketh  ic 
harder  to  us  that  defire  ic,  to  draw  many 
good  people  to  communion  with  Conformity 
than  ic  was  of  old.  But  when  both  Law,  and 
Love  of  Peace  and  Concord  forbid  us  ,  fo  much 
as  to  name  the  Caufes ,  it  is  difingenious  for  the 
culpable  to  take  that  advantage  againft  us,  and 
to  urge  us  to  do  thac  which  they  them- 
lelves  cannot  bear. 

Se3.  6.  But  with  full  fail  of  felf-eonceir- 
.ednefs  he  next  ccaies  upon  us,  with  this  as  an 
undeniable  proof,  thac  [  our  Members  are  ta- 
ken out  of  trite  Churches.  ]  Who  would  gain- 
fay  a  man  of  fuch  underftanding? 

But  i.  Do  not  thofe,  as  aforefaid,  that  re- 
move from  one  Parilh  Church  to  another,  re- 
move from  true  Churches  ? 

2.  How  many  Bifhops  have  written  thac 
the  Church  of  Rome  is  a  true  Church  (  as 
Halls  Collection  againft  Burton  fhewech  you) 
and  mufl  no  Churches  therefore  be  gathered 
out  of  them?  $f  What 


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j.  What  advantage  then  bath  every  foci- 
ifh  Superfluous  Prieft  above  God  ,  and  over 
all  good  Chriftians  ?  God  bids  us  worfhip  him 
according  to  his  Law,  and  to  do  all  things  in 
<W*rand  decently,  and  to  edification*  And 
mult  not  God  be  obeyed  ?  No,  if  the  Prieft 
will  not  confent :  For  if  he  will  worfhip  God 
foolifhly,  with  non-fence,  undecently,  difor- 
derlyy  again/}  edification,  you  cannot  help  it  ; 
his  followers  may  be  a  true  £hurch  ftill,  and 
then  no  man  muft  remove  to  worfhip  God  bet- 
ter than  pleafeth  the  Prieft.  He  that  is  fal- 
len under  fuch  drunken  Readers,  as  I  was  bred 
under  in  my  youth,  that  were  drunk  many 
times  oftncr  than  they  preached  (  I  am  ready 
to  prove  it ,  for  they  never  preached,  but  were 
drunk  oft;)  this  poor  man  and  his  Family 
muft  venture  their  Souls  on  this  fottifhDrunk- 
ards  conduct,  becaufe  it  is  a  true  Church,  and 
they  muft  not  go  from  a  true  Church^Nhzz  a 
trick  hath  theDevil  found  to  bind  men  to  con- 
ftancy  in  his  fervice,  fo  it  be  done  in  a  true 
Church! Alas  poor  England,  whofeTeachers  talk 
confidently  at  this  rate,  becaufe  they  can  fay 
that  they  do  it  in  a  true  Churchy  &  did  not  the 
Parliament  take  a  Church  out  of  a  true  Churchy 
when  they  fcpa rated  Covent-Garden  from 
Martins  Parifli.  And  fo  it  is  when  PariQies 
are  divided  into  two,  one  part  is  feparated 
from  the  other, 

Stft*  7-  But  fa&ious  Difputers  fee  but  on 

one 


one  fide.  You  thought  not  that  you  your 
felf  were  all  this  while  proving  your  felvcs 
Schifmatickf-  I  undertake  to  prove  thatPiP 
ftors  and  People  are  the  Conft'uutive  Ejfentials 
of  a  true  Cfc«rrA:That  Dv.SeamanJs\t*CaUmjy 
Dr. Manton}Mr.Cjouge,Dr. Bates r  Dr.  Jacowb, 
and  abundance  more  fuch ,  with  the  people 
fubje£t  to  them,  as  Pallors  ,  were  true  Chur- 
ches. 

Prove  you  if  you  can,that  on  ^#£.24.16^2. 
they  were  degraded  ,  or  thefe  true  Churches 
diflolved,  on  any  reafon,  which  any  Chur- 
ches for  6co  years  after  Chrift  would 
own. 

4.  I  f  not ,  you  feem  your  fclf  to  accufe 
their  Succeflors,  oiSchifm>  for  drawing  away 
part  of  the  people  from  them  (  meerly  by  the 
advantage  of  having  the  Temples  and  Ty  thes ) 
and  fo  gathering  Churches  out  of  true  Chur- 
ches ;  fo  ordinary  is  it  for  felf-efteeming  men 
to  talk  to  their  own  reproach  and  condem- 
nation. 

Sett-  8.  But  as  to  his  fecond  Objection,  I 
Will  take  his  part  ,»'and  though  we  differ  not  at 
all  from  the  DoClrine  of  the  Church  oiEnglancL 
(  till  the  new  Doftrine  about  In  ants  was 
brought  into  the  new  Rubric^  )  yet  it  is  not 
in  minutioribtu  that  we  differ  from  the  Confor- 
mifis  ;  gather  from  it  what  you  can.  God 
knowech  we  think  the  macters  in  difference;ve- 
xy  far  from  things  indffircnt* 

CHAP. 


k*u ) 


C  H  A  P.     V- 

Whether  the  "Declaration  make  the  Non- 
conformist preaching  more  lawful^  or 
their  duty,  than  it  war  before  f 

Sett,  i.  T  TIs  Sett.  2.  Pro.  2.  is  impertinent. 
XjL  For,  i.  Heknoweth  little,  if 
he  know  not,  that  the  Tfynconformifts  did  before 
take  fuch  preaching  and  meetings  to  be  lawful, 
and  a  duty  in  refpeft  of  the  Law  of  God5where 
they  had  opportunity  to  ufe  them. 

2.  But  they  take  it  for  a  double  fin,  to  neg- 
lect a  duty,  when  they  have  Liberty  granted 
them  by  the  King  co  perform  it.  But  he 
knoweth  we  take  God  for  our  abfolute  Sove- 
raign ,  and  think  that  none  cin  repeal  his 
Laws,  becaufe  that  none  hath  any  power  but 
from  him  ;  and  we  fuppofe  that  he  will  pafs  the 
final  fentence  on  Kings  and  us.  To  what  pur- 
pofe  is  it  then  among  Chriftians  to  quertion  , 
whether  Men  make  it  lawful  for  Chrijls  Con- 
fecrated  Minifters  to  preach,  when  Cod  com* 
mzndeth  it. 

Sett.  2.  But  pag.i^.hztbinkj  he  may  fafely 
fay,  \that  the  "Declaration  doth  not  fo  much  <u 
uncommwi  and  unin]oyn  any  things  which  the 

Larr 


JjXW  properly  commands  or  wjoyns  J. 

^/w.  Say  you  f o  ?  i.  The  Law  com- 
mandech  Ma^iftrates  to  execute  the  penal 
Laws.  The  King  forbiddeth  them  :  Is  not 
thac  to  uncommand  them? 

2.  The  Law  commandeth  us  not  to  meet 
above  four  in  a  private  houfe  for  worfhip,  o- 
therwiie  than,  &c.  The  King  fafpendeth  ,  or 
difpenfech  with  this  Commandjand  not  only 
wich  the  penalty.  And  is  not  a  lufpenfion  of 
a  Precept  an  ur.commandiKg^  though  not  a 
Handing  of  the  contrary?  I  will  not  in- 
flame in  Juries  inducing  Papifts,  8cc. 

Sett.  3.  But  he  (ubuily  tells  us  that  the 
Declaration  meddles  neither  with  the  7V*- 
cep:ize  nor  Punitive  parts  of- the  Law,  but 
only  with  the  Execution,  which  is  exirinjiekjo 
both.  All  La.vyers  muft  come  learn  anew 
-of  him,  what  it  is  to  difpenfe  with  a  Law.  As 
if  the  Command  [  Ton  {hall  examine  and  pnnifh 
fuch  Scfucb  «fff,]and  the  prohibition^**  jW/ 
not  punifh  them,  but  ptotctt  them  ]  were  not 
comrarv.  Nor  the  prohibition  [Ton  (hall hoc 
meet  above  four  ore.  ]  and  the  difpenfation, 
[  Yon   ma j  mect:$: 

Sett.  4.  But  ail  this  is  utterly  impertinent 
to  them  whofe  Confciences  never  allowed 
them  to  forbear  their  Mimftry  in  formal  obedi- 
ence to  any  mens  prohibition  ,  bu:  only  whea 
they  had  not  power  or  opportunity  to  exer- 
ofe  j  It's  no  duty  which  cannot  b:done.  And 

Lice»fc 


ZjV*»/*  maketh  thztpo/fiMcwhich  was  Impoffiblel 
He  that  imtieth  rtiy  feet,  accidentally  maketh  it 
my  duty  to  go. 

Sctt.  y.  pag.  16.  Let  Mr.  Crofion  anfwer 
for  himfelf  ?  but  the  other  two  named  by  youf 
Ball  and  Baxter  have  much  againft  you  ,  but 
nothing  for  you  ;  and  underftand  themfelvcs 
better  than  you  underftand  them  ;  and  he  that 
furviveth,  taketh  himfelf  to  be  abufed  by  your 
Allegations,  and  provoketh  you  to  cite  any  of 
his  words,  which  are  againft  Nonconformijls 
preaching  as  they  have  opportunity*  If  you 
had  rather  that  we  were  all  ufed  as  Mr.  Jof. 
Ailtin  was,  you  may  fee  by  his  Preface  to  his 
Life,  whether  he  was  not  for  iuch  fufferings  ra- 
ther than  filence. 

Sett.  6.  His  reviving  his  pitiful  Obje&ion, 
That  we  have  the  approbation  of  Authority  for 
feparation,  is  but  a  contemptible  fp  or  ting  of 
himfelf  at  the  game  he  is  beft  skilled  at;  Objeft* 
ing  nothingjXiax.  he  may  feem  to  anfwer  it  with 
fomething. 

Sett.  7.  But  p.  1 8.  he  will  bring  us  to  Vto- 
pia  (Mortu  invented  it  )  and  there  he  will 
fuppofe[the  Villanies  of  Tbefc^^Murder  and  A* 
daltery  unpunijhed,znd  public)^  Meeting*  allow- 
ed where  they  (kould  be  prattled.  ] 

An[w.  1.  What  ftijjld  the  poor  Noncon- 
formifis  hear  ,  if  they  thus  Commen:ed  on 
the  Clemency  of  the  King? 

2.  But 


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2.  But  becaufe  yd*  will  force  dumb  men  to 
fpealc!,  fuppofe  that  kt  the  fame  Utopia  y  the 
Philosophy Schoob  which  had  faithful  Teach- 
ers ,  and  the  Chriftian   Churches    that  had 
faithful  Paftors  y  were  deprived  of  near  2000 
of  them  at  once ,  and  thofe  that  came  in  their 
places,  had  the  confeht  but  of  tb$  leafl:  part  of 
the  people;  and  chat  they  were  fuch  as< did  Do- 
Urinallj  declare  to  the  people  that   millions 
may  be  PER  without  fin,  &  that  they,* x  ani- 
aw,approve  of  all  the  (jrcgorian  Liturgie  ,  and 
every  thing  therein,  and  of  all  the  Lutherans 
Confubltantiation,  and  Church-Images ;  and 
when  in  Baptifm  they'had  vowed  to  fight  a- 
gainft  the  World  ,  the  Flefti ,  and  the  Devil 
under  Chrift,  they   fhould  contrarily  upon 
deliberation  make  a  folemn  publick  Covenant> 
that  in  their  places,&callings,they  wbuldnever 
endeavour  to  reform  Cardinals,  Inquifitions^ 
High-placts  ,  Confubftantiation ,  Churcb-Ima- 
gcs>px  Church-tyranny,  &  fo  in  part  renounce 
ehfcir  Baptifm :  And  fuppofe  a  clement  Prince 
fhould  releafe  the  eje&ed  Teachers  from  their 
reftraints,  and  allow  them  to  fee  up  private 
fchools  of  Philofophy  and  Divinity  ,  and  the 
people  fhould  fay,  We  cannot  in  confeieftee  cafl: 
our  Souls  on  the  guidance   of  the  P  E  R* 
and      therefore     crave      the      benefit      of 
your  conduit  :  If   thefe  fuffering  men  jfhall 
feek    to  reconcile   them  to  the    P  E  7^S  * 
D  and 


anddefire  them  to  have  a  better  opinion  of 
them,  but  yet  tell  them,  that  they  will  not 
deny  them  their  own  beft  help  ;  Qutre, 
whether  they  finned  by  not  being?  E  R* 
themfelves,  or  by  not  being  cruel  deferters  of 
mens  Souk  ?  and  which  fide  is  to  be  compared 
to  the  Mtrdtrers  and  Adnlt$rers}  I  know 
this  is  notour  Cafe  in  Enghni-,  but  if  we 
muft  follow  you  into  Utofia  or  CMtria,  let  us 
have  the  equitable  judgment  of  the  place. 


CHAP. 


■  .  ■* 


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CHAP,     VL 

Of  tie  Inconveniencies  of  our  Tolera- 
ted Meetings. 

ScU.  i.  lWTOthing  more  cafie  than  for  men 
x\  that  have  fome  great  advanta- 
ges, to  force  inconveniencies  upon  other  mens 
greateft  Duties.  And  we  look  to  do  nothing 
in  the  World  fcarce  that  fhall  have  no  incon- 
venience. I  eat  not  one  meal  often  that  doth 
not  make  me  fick.  But  muft  I.  therefore  give 
over?  I  can  tell  you  of  more  than  a  few  in- 
conveniences of  your  own  preaching  ,  and 
Church-worfhip  •  and  yet  you  will  not  give 
it  over.  But  if  any  fhall  make  thofe  inconve- 
niencies againft  our  wills,  and  to  the  grief  of 
our  hearts,&  then  tell  us  that  to  avoid  them  we 
muft  Sacrilegiouflj  and  as  Soul- murderers  de- 
fer: our  Mmiftery ,  we  fhall  eafilier  anfwer 
them,then  they  will  fhortly  anfwer  God. 

St&.  2.  His  firft  inconvenience  is,th at  [jp# 
frail  Uj  down  the  Cudgels  and  beg  the  peacc,&c. 
of  the  reft  of  the  Scftaries,  m  yell  as  the  Inde- 
pendents. ] 

Anfw.  A  hard  point  to  that  Se<ft  that  is 
D  a  7W- 


Turba  gravu  pact,  placidaq^  inlmlca  qmeti'y 

who  know  not  how  to  lay  down  the  Swordm 
But  if  we  have  been  at  Cudgels,  we  mean 
not  to  live  and  die  at  a  wdrk  fo  unfuitable  to 
our  Religion  and  our  minds.  Reproach  not 
him  that  (aid  [  //  it  be  pj[ible:at  much  as  in  you 
lyethjive  peace  My  with  allmen\But  if  it  be  our 
diflikj  oiScbifm  that  are  the  Cudgels  you  mean, 
you  are  anfwered  already.  Pretend  not  to 
know  our  minds  better  than  our  felves.  When 
were  we  againft  our  own  Preaching,  as  we 
had  opportunity? 

Sett.  3.  He  would  next  raife  a  fufpicion, 
[  That  oar  Principles  change  with  the  times ,] 
and  yet  faith  [  It  u  a  thing  not  eaftly  objerved 
in  m  in  any  thing  el[e\\  Condemn  not  your 
felf  then  by  fufpeding  it  in  this ,  till  you  bet- 
ter know  our  minds  :  [  Or  elfe,  which  u  worji 
of  all,  that  our  inter eft  lay  at  the  bottom  ,  and 
TV 06  the  only  Spring  and  Wheel  of  our  xjealy  and 
all  our  motions >&c] 

Anfw.  Who  had  been  the  more  accufable  of 
this  Carnality  and  Hypocrifie,  in  the  eyes  of 
any  ftanders  by,  the  Conformijls  that  take  up 
the  Principles  that  go  along  with  Safety , 
Wealth  ,  Preferments  and  Dignities  ?  or  the 
Noxconformifts,  that  have  near  ten  years  been 
deprived  of  all  Ecclefiaftical  maintenance  ? 
fome  lived  in  extream  poverty ,  and  fome  lain 
in  Jaitej  &c.    Sure,  if  we  accufe  not  pu?  even 

you 


j9*>o£  hypocritical  following  carnall  intereft, 
one  w.quld  think  a  little  modefty  might  have 
cured  the  Canker  that  moved  thefe  iufpicions 
or  accufations  oftu,  either  as  to  thefe  or  for- 
mer Opinions.  But  my  expe&ation  of  mo- 
defty, 1  fee  by  the  following  words,  needs  a 
pardon. 

Sett.  4.  He  addeth  [Conftder  I  hefeech 
you^bow  like  u  Independent-Apes  jour  new  Con- 
gregations will  make  you^looh^ ,  &c.  ] 

jinfw.  That  is  to  fay^Come  Nonconform^  sy 
if  you  will  not  he  beaten  from  your  Makers 
worker  we  will  try  whether  we  can  feoff  and 
fcorn  you  out  of  it  ;  if  that  will  not  do  ,  we  will 
pretend  Cbrifls  Name  and  Authority  as  forbid- 
in  g  you+     For  as  Chrift^  Matth.  4.  fo  you  mnfh 
encounter  a    three-fold  temptation.     But  we 
take  pleafure  in  infirmities,  and  can  hear  to  be 
made  as  the  ofF-fcouring  of  all  things,remem- 
bring  who  was  cloathed  in  Purple,  and  then 
mockt  as  being  like  a  King.     If  you  will  take 
my  Spoon  and  Knife  from  me  ,  and  then  fay 
that  I  eat  lik*  an  Ape  or  a  Beafl,  1  will  not  be 
fo  prated  and  fooled  out  of  my  meat.     It' with 
Diogenes  I  had  caft  away  my  Difh  to  ufe  my 
i)are  hands,  or  forfaken  my  Houfe    to  live 
in  a  Tub,  I  had  defer ved  your  derifion  ;  but 
if  you  take  my  houfe  &  all  my  goods  from  me, 
you.  (hall  not  mock  me  out  of  my  poor  Tub 
alfo  ;  We  would  avoid  all  appear  ance\of  evil ; 
Butpnly  in  things  indifferent  7  we  will  not 
D  3  ceafe 


ctskGhripianity  preaching  otpraying^whtnyoxi 
can  make  it  by  your  Artifice  appear  like  evil  % 
Let's  hear  the  inftances. 

Sett.  y.  [i.  Tour  Churches  mil  be  gather* 
ei  as  theirs.  J 

Anfw.  As  much  as  all  the  Churches  for 
three  hundred  years  were  j  or  the  Meetings 
of  Flavians,  Meletity>  and  others  at  Antioch* 
when  they  were  prohibited  the  Temple.  And 
as  Dr.  Wilis  and  Dr.  Gunning*  were  fifteen 
years  ago.  Or  if  you  will ,  as  the  Joannites 
were  in  Constantinople,  till  Chryfoftoms  name 
and  bones  were  honoured  by  wifer  men  than 
thofe  that  caft  him  out. 

Sett.  6.  [  2.  Ton  can  aiminifter  Baptifm  $r 
the  Lords  Supper >  to  none  but  thofe  of  jour  fe* 
lett  number^ 

Anfxp.  i.  Is  it  becaufe  we  mil  noty  or  be* 
caufe  you  mil  not  give  us  leave  ?  Who  then  is  it 
long  of?  Oformodefty/  Tye  mens  feet,  and 
reproach  them  for  not  going  / 

2.  But  is  ic  not  better  to  give  an  Alms  to 
the  bodies  or  fouls,  of  fome  men%  than  of  none 
at  all?  Argue  thus  with  yourPhyficians^r^  ca* 
meiicate  none  but  your  felett  Patient ;  Ergo, 
you  are  to  be  fcornei  if  you  meiicate  any  at  all. 
And  I  profefs,  were  it  not  for  the  poor  peoples 
fake,  and  my  duty  to  God,  I  would  give  you 
( that  defire  it  )  all  my  praftice  ,  and  all  the 
gains, 

^.But 


j.  But  why  may  wc  not  in  the  allowed 
places  cxcrcife  our  Miniftry,  in  baptizing  the 
Children  of  any  one  of your  F locks  thztfhall  de- 
fin  it,  ot  giving  them  the  Sacrament}  I  yet 
underftand  it  not,  unleis  for  the  avoiding  of 
your  envy  and  difpleafure. 

Si&.  7.  [  ?•  Tou  cannot  exereife  Difcipline 
b$U  by  the  confent  of  your  people.  ] 

Anfw.  i.  We  cannot  be  PaSiors  to  any  a- 
gainft  their  wills :  If  yon  can  ,  and  take  that 
for  your  honour,  keep  it,  for  we  will  have  no 
part  with  you.  We  find  indeed  that  it  is 
your  Opinion  to  eafrcife  your  Discipline  on  tu 
againft  onr  mils. 

2.  But  though  we  cannot  take  men  for 
Cbriftians  >  nor  for  our  fpecial  Flock.  >  nor 
bring  them  to  repentance,  noryztabfolve  them 
againft  their  wills,  we  can  admonifh  and  tx- 
communicaxe  them  againft  their  wills  ,  and  de- 
ny them  the  Lords  Supper  from  us  •  if  they 
firft  voluntarily  fubrait  to  our  Miniftry.  We 
take  it  not  for  our  part  or  honour  to  do  in  thefe 
things  fo  much  as  you  can. 

SeSt.  8.  [  4.  ^either  can  you  have  any 
Cb*rcb-Government  but  in  your  jingle  Congre- 
gations %  and  that  Uo  Independent  on  all  c- 
tbers.  ] 

Anfve.  1.  Who  is  that  long  of?  Is  it  not 
you  that  forbid  it  us  ? 

z.  But  indeed  we  never  defired  to  play  ihe 
D  4  Bilhops 


U6) 

Bifhdps  iri'othtt  mens  Dioccfs:If  we  pietencU 
ed  to  govern .jM»would  you take  it  for  our  Qir± 
thodoxnefxh  I  think  not.  I  would  you  were 
of  the  iaftie  Opinion,,&  I  would  die  tope  were 
of  the  fame  Opinion,  and  would  Jet  other 
men  alone,  and  excrcifehis  .Difcipline  oyer 
tione  that  he  bath  nothing  to  do  with.  Bax* 
ter  whom  you  name  hath  told  you,  that  Bi- 
ftop  $^*r  profeft  his  Judgment  to  him.,  that 
even  Biftiops  in  a  Council  (though  they  are 
therei  (goyernours  of  the  Flocks ,  yet )  meet 
not  for  Government  pf  bne  another  hyVote^ 
or  of  ether.  Bifbops ,  but  fcr  Concord*  And 
^r  otitis  de  Imp.  f urn.  pot.  haxh  fhewed  you 
that  Canons'  are  not  Z^wbut  Agreements. 

z.r  But  why  may  not  majiy  ot  us  Miilifters 
meetiapne allowed  place,  fpr  fuch  Agreements 
in  our  Paftoral  Go  vernmei^t  ?  And  no  great- 
er dependence  do  wedefire:  I  affure/yoi*  we 
ihoul4  be  glad  if  all  the  fijenced  Minifters  thefc 
thirty  years  had  been  left  dependant  on  the 
Piocefans.   ; 

Sect.  $>.  He  addethf  Thm  &  others  are 
Independents  by  choice  and  Trofejfion ,  you  will 
makf  jo Hr  f elves  fo  bjneceflity  ;  and  that  necejfir 
tj  fttch>as  joh  wilfully  throw  your  [elves  into,  a- 
gainft  all  the  light  of  Presbyterian  ~Con(ciencc% 
Trndence  and  I  nt  ere  ft,  by  a  needlefs  and  fin ful, 
a  fcandalow  and  mifchievous  Reparation.  ] 

Anfw*  i#   Such  confidence  upon  fuchjn- 


fignificaht  tcafonings,  is  a  great  dilhonour  to 
the  wic  and  humility  of  the  Author.  He  that 
no  better  knoweth  their  judgments  ,  can  tell 
joh,  what  all  the  light  of  the Presbyterian  con* 
fcienceis. 

2.He  can  prove  that  ourMiniftery  is  needlefs^ 
finfuly  &c.  becaufe  he  can  call  the  exercife  of  it 
fep oration  :  As  it  the  paucity  of  ignorant  and 
ungodly  Souls,  |  aad  the  fufficient  number ,  abi- 
lity y  z>cal,  and  diligence  of  the  Conformijls  made 
us  and  our  Labours    needlefs  indeed.     Alasf 
what  thoughts  have  thefe  men  oi  fouls,  of  jiny 
oiholinefsy  of  repentance,  and  of  their  own 
fufficiency  and  labours.     But,  Sir,  who  made 
you  a  fitter  Judge  of  the  need  of  fouls,  thati 
themfelves  and  all  others  ?    Next  perfwade  us 
that  Tutors  are  needlefs,    becaufe   all  in  Eng- 
land are  born  learned.  I  have  much  ado  to  get 
fervantsin  my  own  Family  that  have  tolerable 
knowledge  and  piety:  And  can  our  Conform- 
ifls  alone  fufficiently  teach  many  hundred  Fa- 
milies ,    and  prove    that  other  mens  help  is 
needlefs  ?   Try  firft  whether  you  can  perfwade 
men  ,.  that  you  alone  are  fufficient  to  teach  all 
the  Children  in  your  Parishes  to  fpeak,  and 
to  drefs  them  3  and  feed  them,  and  that  all 
other  perfons  help  is  needlefs.     Get  them  to 
fall  all  till  you  feed  them  your  felves ,  and 
coake  them  believe  they  need  no  other  meat. 
We  that  have  conferred  with  all  the  people  of 

our 


our  Panihes  when  we  were  permitted,  found 
that  multitudes  were  almoft  as  ignorant  asHi*. 
thefts :  And  yet  our  excellent  fucceflburs,  that 
do  no  fuch  thing  (  as  to  any  two  of  them  that 
ever  I  knew  or  heard  of)  but  fee  their  faces  in 
the  Churchman  prove  all  our  Teaching  needle fs 
to  thefe  poor  ignorant  fouls  :  Is  this  humility, 
and  Ministerial  fidelity  ?  Its^?*  in  us  to  preachy 
and  duty  to  the  Conformists  i  lam  glad  they 
take  it  yet  for  a  duty  to  any. 

3*  But  is  it  not  as  eafie  for  us  to  fay,  That 
you  have  needle  fly,  and  fitfully  %  andfeanda- 
httfiy  taken  our  places  ,  ( I  mean  as  to  the 
Church-Relation,  &  not  as  to  the  Temples  and 
Ty  thes,  )  and  drawn  fome  of  the  people  to 
feparati&n  from  thofe  that  were  before  true 
Churches  >  We  fay  not  fo ;  but  put  not  your 
felves  on  the  hard  task  of  difproving  it,  if  you 
are  wife. 

4.  But  our  necedicy  5iV,hath  vifible  Caufes. 

1.  God  and  our  ownconfent  at  our  Ordi-» 
nation ,  made  our  nectjfity  of  exercifing  our 
Miniftry  ;  We  are  not  afhamed  of  the  Gofpel 
of  Chnft,  nor  that  ic  was  our  choice :  But  God 
hath  laid  this  nectjftty  on  tes ,  and  woke  untom 
if  we  preach  not  the  ^ofpcl^ae  we  have  opportu- 
nity. 

2.  TheBifhops  tofome  of  us,  and  fenier 
Paftors  to  others,  by  Minilterial  kwftiture  im- 
pefed  this  neccflity  on  us. 

3.  The 


3.  Th#  great  neceffity  of  multitudes  of  fouls 
(  which  nothing  but  grofs  ignorance  de  fa8o% 
Infidelity ,  or  Impudency  can  deny  )  concur- 
rech  to  caufe  this  neceflity. 

4.  The  Law  impofeth  a  necefficy  on  us, 
not  co  preach  among  you  in  the  Temples  :  If 
then  God  fay,  Preach,  and  the  Law  fay, 
Preach  not  in  the  Temples  ,  we  may  conclude 
we  muft  preach  out  of  the  Temples ;  if  we  have 
but  as  much  wit  as  King  James's  Hounds  had, 
that  at  a  double  way,  if  they  find  the.  Hare 
hath  not  gone  one  way ,  will  take  it  for 
granted  he  is  gone  the  other*  Here  is  then  but 
two  makers  of  our  neceffity,  the  Impofer  and  ibe 
Bcflraincr;  Reproach  neither  of  them  if  you 
will  take  our  council. 

ScH.  10.  He  addeth  [  In  vain  do  you  thinly 
to  help  jour  f elves,  and  tofatisfie  the  World,  by 
pleading  the  moderation  of  your  Principles,  And 
that  you  do  believe  our  Parochial  Congre- 
gations are  true  Churches ,  which  the  other 
Sectaries  deny  :  For  befides  that  many  of  the 
Independents  acknowledge  the  fame  ,  thu  is  the 
great  aggravation  of  your  Schifm :  For  why 
then  do  you  feperate  from  tu  ?  ] 

Anf+  i.  We  are  glad  that  you  confefs  the 
Independents  themfelves  are  fo  moderate  to- 
wards you. 

2.  We   perfwade  none  to  feparate  from 

you. 

3.Do 


(rfo) 
3.  Do  you  filence  us,  and  depofe  us  from 
the  Miniftry,  and  forbid  Baptifm  and  the 
lords  Supper  to  all  thac  have  not  as  wide  a 
fwallow  as  your  felves,  and  then  ask  ,  Why 
[0 far  ate  you  from  hj  f 

I  4.  Do  you  draw  Churches  to  your 
pelves  out  of  our  true  Churches  that  were  be- 
fore you,  and  then  charge  your  att  on  us  ? 

5.  Why  come  not  yon  to  the  private  Chur- 
ches among  you  that  have  all  this  while  been 
kept  up?  t.g*  In  London  y  why  may  not  Dr. 
Mantouy  Dr.  Annefley>  Dr.  Jacomb  ,  and  a- 
buhdance  of  fuch  ,  as  fairly  charge  thofe  that 
go  only  to  the  Temples,  for  feparating  from 
chem  ?  They  fay  ,  They  are  as  true  Chuches 
as  you.  If  their  not  hearing  you  is  feparation, 
why  is  not  your  not  hearing  of  them  [0  ?  Big 
words  when  men  are  got  into  the  Saddle  make 
not  their  Caufe  good. 

6.  But  it  feemech  that  acknowledging  you 
true  Churches  will  not  fatisfie  you,  without 
(what  ?  )  attnal  hearing  yon.  But  doth  not 
every  Cbappe^and  every  neighbor  Parifh  then, 
and  all  the  World  befides  your  Auditory,  fin- 
fully  [epafate  from  yon  ?  Some  men  can  tri- 
umph in  fuch  rcafonings  for  themfelves ,  as 
would  make  another  fick  to  read  them. 


CHAP, 


(Si) 


CHAP-     VII. 

Of  the  inconvenience  from  our  Brethren* 
fence  of  Toleration, 

ScB.  i.L-Jls  next  Se£Hon,  pag.  21,  &c.  is  as 

A  :  Ameer  del  ufion  as  any  of  the  reft. 
Firft,  he  argueth  from  the  Presbyterians  be- 
ing always  againft  a  Toleration.     Reader,  all 
fober  Divines  that  ever  I  met  with ,  ufc  here 
to  diftinguifh  between  Tolerable  and  Intoler- 
able  things  and  perfons,  and  to  conclude  that 
the  Tolerable  muft  be  Tolerated  >and  the  other 
not,  though  they  all  agree  not  how  much  is 
Tolerable.     Now  what  doth  this  man  but  talk 
confufedly,  as  if  they  had  been  againft  all  To- 
leration.    Look  up  man  without  blufhing, 
and  tell  the  World,  Whether  ever  the  Presby- 
terians maintained  it  a  fin  toTolerate  Presbyte- 
rians.    Alas ,  for  thofe  poor  people ,  that  can- 
not try  fence  from  nonfence  /  with  what  fluff 
will  fuch  men  carry  them  away?  If  you  talk 
of  the  'Toleration  of  any  that  are  Intolerable, 
what  have  wc  to  do  with  it  any  more  than  you? 
Sett.  2.  Any  more  than  youy  did  I  fay  ? 
Sir,  vilifie  not  the  wits  of  thofe  Clergy  men 

that  chiefly  contributed  to  our  *— fo  as 

to 


(6z) 

co  imagine  that  they  did  not  know  What  they 
did,  and  forefee  this  day.  Honour  their  *#« 
derfiandings  more,  than  co  take  them  for  fo  iV- 
norant,  (  especially  being  lowdly  foretold  itf ) 
as  not  to  foreknow, 

i.  what  number  and  fort  of  men  would  be 
laid  by. 

i.  How  the  people  would  judge  of  them  and 
their  Caufe. 

3.  How  both  they  and  the  people  would  go 
through  their  fuferings. 

4.  How  wife \  fenfire, and  merciful  Hu  Ma- 
jefiy  would  bey  when  he  faw  all  t hu  (I iry  and  dif~ 
fatufa&ton  of  his  people. 

y.  And  that  the  preaching  offilenced  Mini- 
fters  in  private,  would  encourage  all  other  Setts. 

6.  And  when  ever  the  door  was  opened  for 
their  Liberty  y  all  others  would  endeavour  to 
tbruft  in  with  them.  Who  then  I  pray  you 
hath  done  more  for  Toleration  ,  you  or 
,we? 

Sect.  3.  But  his  next  hath  no  bonnds,  and 
grieveth  me  to  read  it  (  O  pofterity,  how  will 
you  know  what  to  believe?)  viz,,  p.  22. 
[  Have  not  you  lately  refufed  the  comprehenftony 
artd  denied  fo  great  an  advantage  to  your  f elves  y 
becaufe  you  could  not  have  it  without  a  general 
Toleration.  1 

Anfw.  No,  Sir,  we  have  not ;  nor  fliould 
you  have  by  a  queftion  Yenccd  fuch  a  fallhood. 

Name 


(*3) 
Name  the  men  that  offered  us  a  comprehend- 
on,  and  the  men  that  refufed  it  ?  If  you  tell 
us  that;**,  or fuch  another  offered  it  to  one 
of  your  neighbours ,  you  may  poflibly  make 
your  words  ridiculoufly  true :  But  if  you 
mean  that  either  the  King  or  Parliament  of- 
fered it,  tell  us  when,  and  and  who  were  the 
refafers.  If  you  mean  any  Parliament  Speeches, 
it  is  not  fit  for  us  to  talk  about  them.  But 
you  will  not  I  fuppofe  prefume  to  fay  that  the 
Parliament  ever  offered  either  Toleration  or  ac- 
ceptable comprehenfion  ( that  is  ,  to  take  in 
2{onconformijts  ; )  much  lefs  both. 

There  was  a  Rumor  of  one  Mans  Speech, ^cal- 
led a  Presbyterian  ,  as  if  it  had  founded  like  a 
refufal  of  fome  abatement ,  but  if  you  will 
talk  with  him  as  I  have  done,  he  will  foon 
/hew  you  the  falfhood  of  that  Rumor. 

If  you  could  have  proved  that  any  fecret 
perfon  ever  refufed  fuch  an  offer,  can  you 
thence  fay  to  the  Presbyterians  that  they  refn- 
[edit? 

If  you  mean  an  offer  that  by  a  great  Mini- 
fter  of  State  was  made ,  be  better  informed  of 
it  your  felf. 

i.  That  it  was  not  refufed  y  but  very 
thankfully  accepted. 

2.  That  for  the  Toleration  of  other  men,  be* 
pies  themfelves  ,  thofe  two  or  three  that 
meddled  in  it,  anfwered. 

14  That 


(«4) 

i.  That  it  was  their  defire  that  all  ToU< 
rablc  T>ijfentiers  might  be  tolerated* 

2.  That  it  was  His  Majefties  work  and  not 
theirs. 

3 .  That  therefore  thofe  that  were  to  be  7*- 
leratedr  were  accordingly  to  be  fpoken  to  of 
the  Term*,  for  we  were  capable  of  treating  of 
the  Ca(e  and  Terms  of  none  but  our  felves* 
And  after  this  the  endeavour  for  our  Com<- 
prehenfion  went  on  to  our  content,  till  the 
Parliament  (ate,  and  prefently  lluit  the  door 
againft  it. 

I  know  of  no  other  offer  but  this,  which 
thofe  few  that  dealt  in  it  well  know  was  far 
from  being  refufed  ;  fo  chat  a  greater  (lander 
could  fcarce  have  been  laid  on  men  chacliave 
ftii  fo  greatly  defired  A  COMPREHENSION 
OF  ALL  SOBER  PROTESTANTS  IN 
THE  PUBL1CK  MINIS  TRY,  and  A  TO- 
LERA.TION  ALSO  OF  ALL  TOLE- 
RABLE DISSENTER  S,under  Laws  of 
peace  and  fafety  :  This  was  (till  the  thing 
which  we  begged  for  in  vain  :  But  who  fhoulcf 
be  accounted  Tolerable ,  we  were  never  called 
to  give  our  publick  Opinion  or  Advife,  that  I 
know  of.  Repent  of  fuch  Calumnies ,  and 
ftudy  not  to  aggravate  your  Fault  by  Etf- 
cufes. 

Indeed,  if  the  offer  had  been  mfcde  to  them 
of  a  Comfrehenfion  on  condition .  chey  them* 

felves 


I  Of  ) 

,civcs  would  have  APPROVED  of  an  V*l~ 
verfal  Toleration  ot  all  thofe  whom  they  ac- 
count Intolerable.  I  doubt  not  but  they 
would  have  faid,  We  tbankjtttly  accept  Com- 
prcbenjicn>  but  cannot  approve  of  (tech  a  Tolgm 
ration,  but  leave  your  own  rvorkj  to  your  own 
Krifdom  •  we  cannot  go  againfi  oar  Cor.fcicnccs 
for  any  Liberty  :  But  other  mens  aftions  ,  are 
not  ours. 

Sett.  4.  And  he  addeth  oLi  fpeeches  againft 
Toleration,  Univerfal  intolerable  Toleration? 
Wherein  we  lament  his  want  of  common 
fcnfe  ormodefty. 

1.  If  he  would  infinuate  that  we  are  for 
mVniverfal  Toleration^  becaufe  we  preach 
when  we  have  liberty  and  opportunity,  What 
dealing  is  to  be  expeded  from  fuch  men?  When 
he  confefleth  that  we  have  been  ftili  againft 
fuch  a  toleration  ?  When  we  have  almoft 
twelve  years  ago ,  cryed  out ,  even  to  un- 
mannerlinefs,  that  if  poffibly  we  might  have 
been  heard,  to  the  Reverend  Prelates^  Cast  not 
out  fo  many  in  the  necejfities  of  the  people  ?  O 
drive  not  godly  people  from  your  Communion  for 
nothing  I  If  yon  can  prove  Cr  offing  ,  and  your 
Sacrament-kneeling  lawful,  with  Subfcriptionsy 
Canonical-fwearing  to  you,  &c.  yet  all  that 
think^otberwife  fhouU  not  be  excommunicated 7 
or  forbidden  to  preach  Chrijis  Gofpel :  We  have 
Fornicators >  and  Drunkards,  &c.  enough  to 
£  excom* 


I6?) 

excommunicate  :  O  drive  not  upright  con  felon  a* 
tie  Christians  from  your  Churches !  Force  not 
Ministers  to  private  preachingmd  faff&w&h 
which  will  certainly  occafton  Setts,  and  of  en  a 
door  to  you  know  what.  And  when  we  can  no 
whit  prevail,  if  thefe  very  men  themfelves  fhall 
fay,  that  it  is  we  that  are  for  Univcrfal  Tole- 
ration, with  what  Forehead — ; — 

What  man  that  hath  not  lived  in  a  dream  theft 
12 years,  hath  made  any  doubt  but  that  it  hath 
been  the  interest  and  defire  of  Infidels  ,  Papifis 
and  Quakers,  that  our  ejections  and  prejfures 
might  be  a*  great  as  might  be,  that  fo  the  Pro- 
tefiants  might  be  weakned  &  broken  by  their  own 
Divijionsy  and  the  chief  oppofers  of  thefe   men 
be  either  confumed,  or  forced  by  mifery  to  petiti- 
on for  Toleration,  or  at  leaf}  that  it  might  be 
granted  as  for  our  fakes,  and  we  might  be  faid 
to  open  to  them  the  door,  that  they  that  con feft 
we  have  been  moft  againfi  it,  might  be  able 
(but  qua  front  e  )  to  fay  that  it  was  our  doing  and 
not  theirs.     But  when  mens  wits  have  thus 
play'd  the  game  to  the  utmoft  ,  they  are  buc 
abufing  themfelves :  For  they  mufi  dye,  I  tell 
you^theymufl  dyey&  be  judged  by  that  God  that 
batetb  Malignity,  Cruelty, and  Hypocrifie,  and 
Will  detect  all  frauds  before  the  Worlds  when  all 
that  is  now  admired  by  the  dreaming  World^fhaH 
be  levelled^  obfeured,    and  appear  contemptible^ 
even  to  them  that  fold  their  Souls  to  obtain  it. 

Sett. 


V  °?  ) 

Sett.   f.  Once  more  Readeiyperufe  all  the 

Citations  of  this  Author,  out  of  Mr.  Edwards^ 
Mr.  Trap  (a  Conform*/},  yet  num'ored  with 
US  )  or  the  Jus  Vivinum  Presbyterii  (  faid  to 
be  written  by  Dr.  Roberts,  a  Conformiji^  only 
read  them  not  with  this  Authors  Spectacles  or 
Eyes,  and  then  tell  me  like  a  man  of  truth  , 
whether  thou  doft  believe  that  their  meaning 
Was,  [  An  Univerfal  Toleration  is  unlawful  : 
Ergo,  Presbytery  mafi  not  be  Tolerated ,  if  any 
others  get  the  power  ]  or  whether  ever  the 
Nonconformlfis  faid,  [_We  are  not  to  be  Tolerated] 
or,  Whether  the  Epif copal  men  told  Cvomwcl 
in  his  Ufurpation,  [It  is  unlawful  to  tolerate  mf\ 
Ic  is  ftrangc  that  any  party  who  think  them- 
felves  only  or  chiefly  fit  for  Legzl  poffejfion  % 
fhould  yet  think  themfelves  Intolerable. 

But  if  he  talk  of  the  Tolerating  of  others, 
that  are  indeed  intolerable  ,  let  him  calk  to 
them  that  have  to  do  with  it  ;  and  let  him  firfl 
talk  his  friends  into  the  tears  of  true  Repent-* 
ance  ( if  they  be  not  paft  learning)  even  from 
the  greateft  EXPE  RIENCEiz  felf. 

Sett.  6.  But  the  man  will  ferioufly  prove 
What  he  faith,  p.  2  j.  [  £an  you  more  jig 
cwny  recognize,  or  more  exprejlj giv*  jour  un- 
feigned affent  and  confent  unto,  and  approbation 
ef  both  Toleration  and  Sch-.fm ,  than  not  only 
ie firing  to  efcape  the  penalty  of  the  Laws  ,  and 
to  live  quietly  m  afiatc  of  fepxration  by  zertue 
E  z  of 


tfitj  but  alfo  by  taking  the  utmoft  advantage  of 
it,  for  the  ereUing  diftinU  and  jcparate  Con* 
gre git  ions  to  jour  [elves*  ] 

Anfl.N  he  mean  that  we  approve  of  the  To- 
leration of  onr  [elves,  &  all  the  Tolerable  J  furc 
we  never  did  deny  it :  Let  the  enemy  of  man- 
kind glory  in  the  contrary,  as  his  proper  ver- 
tue.  But  if  he  mean  (  as  he  plainly  feemeth  ) 
that  we  approve  of  the  1lniver[alitj  of  Tolcra- 
tion  ;  Come,  weigh  his  proof. 

i.  By  de  firing  to  e[c#pe  the  penalty  of  the 
Laws. 

Anfxo.  Now  you  fpeak  fenfe  i  we  feel  your 
meaning.  It  is  a  crime  worthy  the  name  of 
Schifm,  to  defiie  to  be  unpunifhed ,  when 
you  defire  our  punifhment  :  We  do  not  tota 
feftore  telum  recipere  :  What  if  you  were  for 
hanging  and  burning  w  ?  were  it  Tolerati*- 
nifm  &  Schifm  to  be  unwilling  to  be  hang'd  or 
burnt  ?  While  we  have  fuch  Ithacian  Matters 
in  our  own  Coats,  blame  us  not  to  defire 
Toleration,  and  to  thank  the  King  for  faving 
us  from  our  Brethren. 

The  penalty  of  poverty j  and  lofing  all  Mi~ 
nijlerial  maintenance,  we  never  efcaped  fince 
you  fucceeded  us :  Yet  God  that  bids  us  ask 
for  our  daily  bread,  would  not  have  charged 
our  de  firing  it,  on  us  as  our  fin,  if  the  Law  had 
forbicitus.  Poor  Jofeph  AUeine  and  many 
another  are  gone,  and  did  not  efcape  the  pe- 
nalty: 


flaky :  I  never  heard  chat  Bradford  or  Hooper, 
or  Latimer  were  accufed  for  de firing  to  f/<r<*p* 
penalty.  Was  it  Jofepbs  fin  that  the  IJhmae- 
lites  and  Egyptians  were  more  merciful  to  him 
than  his  Brethren? 

But,  Brother ,  what  good  will  our  fuffer- 
ings  do  you  ?  What  harm  wil  it  do  you  if  we 
efcape  ?  Do  you  feel  your  felf  ever  che  more  at 
liberty  when  we  are  in  the  Common- Jayh  ? 
Are  you  the  fuller  ,  becaufe  fome  Noncmfor- 
tnifls  wanes  Bread  ?  We  have  been  heinoufly 
accufed   by  others ,  for   coming  within  five 
miles  of  any  City,  Corporation,  and  place 
where   we  lately    preached    (  when  Chnft 
faid,  If  they  persecute  you  in  one  City,  flee  to  ano- 
ther :  )  As  if  it  were  lawful  to  defert  all  the 
Souls  in  Cities  and  Corporations ,  or  to  take 
you  alone  for  fufficient,  where  the  very  num- 
ber of  Souls  proves  you  lead  fufficient.    But 
would  you  be  at  more  hearts-eafe  >  to  think 
that  none  of  us  are  within  five  miles  of  you, 
nor  teach  any  of  the  people  the  Gofpei  of 
Chrift?     You  have  with  lefs  noife  endured 
Infidels  and  Papifis  enough  within  five  miles 
ot  you  ?  Alas,  when  the  Stone  is  fet  on  rolling 
down  the  Hill,  where  will  it  flop  ? 

Sett.  7.  But  this  is  fpoken  conjun&ively 
jvith  what  folio  we  th:  And  what's  that? 

E  *  2.  To 


2.  [To  live  quietly  in  a  flate  of  feparati- 
on — ]  that  is,  Noc  to  be  your  fubjed  hear- 
ers ?    But, 

i.  Have  not  many  of  hs9  fonie  conftantly, 
fome  at  times ,  fat  at  your  feet  as  your  Dif- 
ciples. 

2.  If  Minifters  be  judged  by  you  unwor- 
thy to  preach  the  Gofpel,  have  they  not  reafon 
to  think  you  judge  them  unworthy  to  naive 
the  Sacrament? 

3.  Are  you  Separates  for  not  hearing  them  ? 
If  not,  why  are  they  fuch  for  not  hearing  you  ? 
But  of  this  before. 

SeB.  8.  But  theutmoftis  [  Ereftingfepa- 
rate  Congregations  to  your  J 'elves. ] 

Anfco.  1.  You  mean ,  it  is  fin  in  us  to 
exercife  the  Miniftry  which  we  are  vowed 
to ,  and  noc  to  be  Sacrilegious  and  cruel 
to  Souls :  For  can  we  Preach  without  Au- 
ditors* And  can  thofe  Auditors  be  no  Con- 
gregation ?  And  can  that  Congregation  be  out 
of  your  hearing ,  and  not  be  locally  fepa- 
ratey  as  every  Parifh-Church  and  Chappel 
is  ?  Muft  two  Congregations  be  one  *  or 
elfe  be  Separatifts  ? 

I  know  two  Churches  fo  near  that  the 
people  may  hear  each  other,  and  yet  they 
arc  two,  and  therefore  one  is  feparate :  And 
I  pray,  which  of  them  is  it  ?  It  may 
be  all  in  Englani  feve  Canterbury ,  or  ra- 
ther 


CO 

ther  Gla&enbury,zxt  Separates ,  for  fcpa- 
rating  from  the  firji  Church  :  As  if  Pytba- 
gorat  juftly  curfed  the  number  of  two ,  be- 
caufe  it  was  the  firft  thatdurft  depart  from 
unity  ;  and  all  Churches  in  the  World 
were  Separates  except  Jerufalem. 

I  pray  you  Sir,  tell  me,  What  if  a  Tolera- 
ted 'Presbyterian  ihould  read  the  Common- 
prayer  in  his  Church  ,  and  ufe  all  your 
Ceremonies  ( though  he  fear  Perjury  ,  and 
Lying  ,  and  Violating  his  Baptifmal  Vow  )  : 
were  this  a  Schifmacick  or  not  ?  If  yea  ;Then 
fo  is  every  neighbour  Parifh-Minifter  ,  or 
Chappel  Curat.  If  not ;  than  it  is  not  a 
iiftinU  Congregation  that  makech  Separa- 
tes. And  then  what  if  he  do  not  u(e  the 
Liturgie ;  doth  that  make  a  Separatiji  ? 
Were  you  all  Separatifts  that  ufed  it  not 
fifteen  years  ago? 

*  I  iliall  next  expe&  to  hear  that  he  is  a  5/- 
paratifi  that  readeth  in  his  own  Common* 
Prayer- Boc^  and  not  in  yours. 

But  I  doubt  the  Separation  is  in  this, 
that  the  Tolerated  Minifter  will  not  be  your 
Curat,  and  ruled  by  you :  But  remember 
that  fome  are  Presbyterians ,  and  therefore  for 
Parity  of  Minifters  ;  and  I  and  many  o- 
thers  are  fo  much  for  Epifcepacy »,  as  that  we 
would  not  have  Prelatical  Jur  lfdi&ion  given 
to  thofe  Parifh  Priefts ,  who  themfelves  arc 
againft  Presbyter 7,  and  for  Prelacy* 

E4  CHAP, 


U*J 


CHAP.    VIII. 

Of  Inconvenience  from  the  Nature  o£ 
the  Practice* 

Sett.  i. TN  all  this  Se&ion,  let  the  Readef 
■*  confider , 
i.  How    few  words  there  be,  which  a 
Papift  Prieft  in  Pari*  might  not  fay  againft  the 
Protcftants. 

2.  Whether  this  be  not  the  fummeof  all, 
[  Preaching  the  Gofpel  hath  hazards  y  incon- 
veniencies  and  likelihood,  o£fru(lration  ;  There- 
fore it  is  your  folly  and  fin  to  Preach  it,] 

3.  Whether  there  be  not  much  that  would 
not  almofl:  as  handfomly  have  ferved  Celfm^ 
'Julian)  Porphyry,  EmafitU)  or  Symmachns  a- 
gainlt  Christianity? 

Sect.  2.  Do  not  you  excommunicate  and 
drive  from  your  feveral  Parifhes  the  Member^ 
of  Chnft  ?  for  no:  eating  with  your  Spoon, 
and  then  reproach  them  that  will  cake  thern 
in  whom  you  caft  out? 

Sett.  3.  We  ftill  hold  that  Memb^s  of  the 
fame  particular  Church,  fliould  not  live  at  a 

difiancc 


(  73  ) ■ 
Hflanci  fo  great ,  as  to  make  them  mcapabU 
of  ordinary  Perfonal  Communion. 

Sett.  4.  We  take  your  Warning :  Udepen* 
dents j  as  you  fay,  may  over-reach  us  ;  Peo- 
ples inconftancy  and  wealchefs  may  fruftrate 
much  of  our  Labours  ;  Quakers  and  Papifti 
may  deceive  fome  5  We^adde,  And  you  and 
others  may  keep  us  after  all  in  Poverty,  and 
in  Jaylsj  for  ought  we  know*  And  what  of 
all  this  ?  Therefore  preach  noU  Next  fay^ 
Therefore  be  no  Chriftians^  Therefore  damn  your 
twn  fouls }  if  jour  temptations  be  fo  great.  No, 
Sir,  But,  therefore  we  will  ferve  Chrift  the 
more  refolutely,  and  truft  him  for  our  prefer- 
vation  and  reward,  TheCiod  whom  we  ferve 
is  able  to  deliver  us :  But  if  he.  will  not,  be 
it  known  unto  ycu,  that  we  will  not  ceafe  to 
preach  his  Gofpel,  while  we  can,  and  we  fear 
not  being  lofers  by  him. 

Sett.  j.  But  your  will  feemeth  to  bear  down 

^our  Experience,  while  you  would  tempt  usf 
y  the  difcouragements  of  Difficult  Afficmb- 
lin&,  and  the  Peoples  Poverty.  Have  thofe  kept 
us  from  doing  what  we  could  till  now  ?  Will 
our  Poverty  be  greater  than  you  Conformifts 
have  made  it  ?  Have  we  ferved  God  about 
twelve  years  without  one  bit  of  the  Levites  por- 
tion ?  and  cannot  we  do  fo  till  we  die  ?  There 
is  an  harmony  in  all  your  duccurfe;  To  tell 
11s  of  the  diicouragement  of  Poverty  from  0* 

tbcrS| 


(74) 

thers,  that  would  help  us,  were  they  able, 
iwhen  your  Party  hath  fo  long  kept  us  with- 
out a  bit  of  Bread,  but  what  Alms,  or  fome 
mens  own  Stocks  afforded  theni,  is  juft  like 
the  reft.  It  fufficeth  us  to  tell  you,  that  we 
preach  not  for  Riches,  and  we  will  not  ceafe 
through  Poverty.  Talk  at  this  rate  to  one 
another. 

SeQ.  6.  When  you  fay,  that  a  Toleration 
may  reduce  the  common  fort  to  an  indifferency  in 
Religion. 

I  anfwer,Get  your  friends  together  then  that 
have  brought  it  to  tbatpafi,  as  that  [  It  muft 
be  this  or  worfe]  and  bring  them  to  weep  over 
their  fins  before  God  ;  That  if  a  miferable 
Nation  may  not  be  faved  from  the  Fire  that 
you  have  kindled,  your  Souls  yet  if  poffible 
may  be  faved. 

Sett.  7.  But,  (f*g.  29.  )  you  too  boldly 
make  your  felves  the  Stewards  of  God's  Blef- 
fings^  and  as  Magifterialiy,  without  proof, 
pronounce  that  we  are  out  of  his  way,  and  in 
cppofition  to  bis  Church ,  and  contrary  to  bis 
Word. 

Anfw.  For  my  felf  I  have  long  been  of  an 
opinion,which  one  day  you  will  pardon,  that, 
Perjury,  Perfidioufnefi  and  *Perfecution ,  proud 
contending  who  (hall  be  great  eft,  and  covenant- 
ing never  in  certain  points  to  obey  Cbrifl  againfl 
the  World  and  the  Fle(h,  is  not  the  way  of  God : 

If 


(7$) 

If  you  take  mc  for  lingular,  there  is  no  re^ 
medy. 

2.  And  what  Word  of  God  is  it  that  we 
contraditt  ?  I  reade  in  the  Rubrick  of  lome- 
thing  about  Infants,  Certainty  the  Word  gf 
Cod  j  but  I  never  heard  in  what  Chapter  or 
Verfe  it  was. 

3.  And  which  is  CbrifPs  Church  which  we 
oppofe  ?  What  Chapter  and  Verfe  faith,  that 
only  Subfcribers,  Swearers,  Declarers  and  Con- 
formifts  are  the  Church  of  Chnft  ;  and  thofe 
that  fear  an  Oath  and  Conformity  are  none 
of  it? 


CHAP.  IX. 

Of  Inconvenience  from  our  prefint 
Conformity. 

Sett.   1. 

HE  next  confeffeth  that  [  melt  of  tu  have 
hitherto  held  fome  meafurc  of  Communion 
with  the  Church  of  England  ]  And  now  [if  we 
depart  and  fall  quite  away  ]  (when  we  purpofe 
to  go  no  further  from  them,  but  rather  come 
nearer  if  they  will  give  us  leave)  then  faith  he 
\Toh  mllpublifhto  the  World,  that  your  comply 

ance 


C  76  ) 

Una  with  us  before  the  Toleration^  was  not  out 
vfftnfe  of  Duty j  or  love  of  Peaa  and  Unity  ,  or 
any  other  good  end  j  but  meerly  out  of  Jltvifb 
fear  of  Punifhment,  &c^\ 

Anfw.  1.  We  will  not  refle&  by  recrimi- 
nation, becaufe  we  would  not  provoke  you 
more  than  needs. 

2.  As  far  as  I  can  promife,  we  will  judge 
of  you  no  worfe  than  we  have  donet  nor  de- 
ny any  Communion  with  you  which  we  have 
ufed,  and  can  ufe  without  ncgledting  our  own 
work.  As  I  conftantly  joyn  in  myParifh- 
Church  in  Liturgy  and  Sacraments,  fo  Ihope 
to  do  while  I  live  (if  I  live  under  as  honeft 
a^Minifter,)  at  due  times.  But  what  if  I  had 
leave  without  Conformity  to  preach  in  the 
next  Parifh-Church  ?  I  cannot  then  be  in 
yours  at  the  fame  time.  He  that  preacheth 
not,  may  hear  you  conftantly  :  But  he  that 
may  preach  himfelf,  mull  not  ceafe  his  Mini- 
ftry,  to  be  ftill  one  of  your  Flock.  We  long 
ago  published  our  Judgments,  that  It  is  a  fin 
not  to  joyn  with  a  left-worthy  Minifier%  and  a 
left-orderly  Mode  of  IVor(hif>,  when  we  can  have 
nos  better  •  And  that  it  is  a  fin  to  tye  onrfelves 
ordinarily  to  fuch  when  we  may  have  better  lawm 
fully,  that  is  {confideratis  confiderandis)  upon 
terms  whereon  it  will  not  do  more  hurt  than  good* 
You  fee  then  on  what  terms  we  may  vary  our 
r^ra&ices,  without  the  crimes  recited  by  you. 


(  77  ) 
If  now  when  iVe  are  preaching  our  felves,  yotj 
will  fay  thac  we  are  it parting  from  joh,  (  be- 
caufe  we  cannot  be  in  two  places  at  once),  and 
then  come  on  with  all  thefe  Calumnies,  we  take 
but  this  to  be  your  meaning ; 

i.  To  tell  us  thac  you  think  we  io  value 
the  honour  of  our  Names  and  Reputations  with 
you,  as  that  you  can  make  us  falfe  to  our 
Callings,  rather  than  be  cenfured  by  you. 

2.  That  you  have  alwayes  a  Quiver  full 
of  fuch  Arrows  provided,  and  refolve,  that  if 
we  will  not  give  over  our  Miniftry,  and  be  ru- 
led  by  you,  you  will  make  as  many  as  you 
can  believe,  thac  we  never  had  fenfe  of  Vmy3 
love  of  Peace  or  Unity,  or  any  good  end,  but  mcer 
jlavifhfear.  So  men,  it's  like,  would  fay  of 
Chnft,  when  fometimes  he  preached  openly, 
and  fometimes  departed  from  mens  fury  inta 
the  Wildernefs  or  obfeure  places ;  Or  of  Paul 
thac  was  let  down  by  the  Wall,  in  a  baskec, 
and  when  he  departed  from  the  Jews  Syna- 
gogues which  he  had  before  frequented ;  or 
thofe  that  fled  from  one  City  to  another.  Ic  is 
a  duty  to  preach  when  I  can,  and  no  duty 
when  I  cannot :  And  if  others  make  the  [can\ 
and  the  [cannot,]  is  it  /  or  they  that  change 
my  practice  ?  But  if  you  teach  men  fuch  ap- 
parently cauflefs  Cenfures  and  Reproaches,you 
may  have  many  Diiciplcs  7  buc  not  very  gooi 
*ncu     And  fane  will  thus  paraphrafe  your; 


(7*) 
words,  [If  the  King  will  not  let  us  perfecuU 
them  for  preaching ,  we  are  refolved  we  wii 
flander  themy  and  make  men  believe  ( on  hov> 
hard  terms  foever  they  ferve  Cbritt )  that  they 
do  it  aU  but  a*  cowardly  {elf peeking  Knaves*] 
What  abundance  have  called  me  Rogue  of  late 
years,  that  never  knew  me,  or  fpake  one  word 
to  me  before,or  heard  one  ?rom  me  I  As  to  the 
reft  [That  we  proclaim  our  cowardife,  or  a  love  of 
licentioufneft,  or  put  on  liberty  for  a  cloaf^ofma- 
leioufnefi]  it  ail  fignifiech  but  what  you  have 
a  lift  to  fay,  and  calls  co  us  to  long  for  the  judg- 
ment-day of  Chrift,  but  yet  co  look  well  to 
the  integrity  of  our  hearts,  and  try  our  way 
before  we  go  it. 


CHAP. 


CHAP.     X. 

Whither  qht  Miniftry  b]  Mvifions  wiU  let  in 
Poperj. 

Sett,  i.  T  Love  this  Author  much  the  bet- 
1  ter,  becaufe  he  fpeaks  againft  di- 
vifions ,  and  becaufe  he  feemeth  willing  to 
draw  thofe  men  towards  him  ,  whom  others 
drive  from  them ,  and  becaufe  he  feemeth 
careful  of  our  Proteilant  Intereft,  and  defi- 
rous  of  fome  kind  of  unity  to  that  end.  But, 
alas,  have  we  fo  many  years  ago  befoughc  his 
party  with  all  humble  petinon  and  importu- 
nity, anddifputcdit  with  them  •,  that  they 
would  have  pittyon  the  confidences  of  thou- 
sands fearing  God,  that  they  would  have 
mercy  on  the  thoufands  of  ignorant  fouls  that: 
need  all  our  Teaching  ^  that  they  would  not 
cat  our  fo  confiderablea  part  of  th:  Prote- 
ftant  Miniftry  that  fhould  hinder  Poperv, 
and  would  notneceffitate  unavoidably  thofe 
divifions,which  by  weakningthe  Proteftaftft, 
would  do  the  Papifts  workj  and  under  the 
fad  denial  of  oar  petitions,  mud  we  now  hear 
that  {the  Pop*  jbd/l  come  on  the  Puritans  pick?) 
That  wcrd  \Jhall~\  we  have  bin  long  hi  arintj 
and  feeling.  To  be  Matters  of  th?  Game  is 
a  great  advantage  for  the  difpofai  of  other 
mens  reputations  in  this  World,  a  littla 
r  wh.lc. 


f8*; 

while;  but  in  the  next,  the  fport  is  fpoiied, 
Se&.  2.  And  rsaSiy,  Wiii  Popery  come  in 
ever  the  more  for  our  Preaching}  (do  you 
It  we  ftiajl  Preach  for  it?)  or  ever  the  Ids, 
if  we  renounce  our  Miniftry  ?  Why  rben  will 
nor  [cur  filcncc  too  prevent  it; and  fo  we  may 
ail  hi  hient  leit  we  preach  in  Popery. 

&  ecr.  3 .  Bnx  it  U  Divlfiors  that  will  do  it. 
No  doubt  of  it,if  it  ever  be  done.  Come  and 
impartially  debate  the  cafe  w*- h  us,who  have 
bin  the  great  caufes  of  Protectants  divifions, 
Confurmifts  or  Non-Conformifts  ?  But  I  am 
afhanocd  to  fay  that  it  needeth  a  debate.    But 

0  chat  you  would  yet  repent  of  what  is  part, 
inflxad  of  reproaching  thofe  that  you  have 
afili&ed  \  And  for  the  time  to  come,  if  we 
have  not  unit)  and  peace ^   for  my  own  pare 

1  can  fay,  it  (hall  btjour  doing,  and  wilful  do- 
trig,  to  refufe  it. 


CHAP. 


(83) 
CHAP.     XL 

Vottnfel  to  the  N on- Conform'. ft s  ,    Afinijrers 
and  People. 

BRethren,  you  hear  by  this  Author  that 
the  Conformifts  are  greatly  afraid  of 
Popery  ,  and  that  the  danger  by  feme  will  be 
faid  to  be  from  you-.but  who  ever  raketh  you 
for  the  Papifts  friends,  the  Papifts  themfelves 
wiil  never  fo  edeem  you.  You  fee  that  fome 
Comfor  miits  are  defirous  of  peace  and concord 
with  you,  for  the  common  end,  the  Churches 
ftrength  againft  all  adverfaries.  God  forbid 
that  you  fhould  not  be  as  forward  to  love 
and  peace  as  they.  I  have  thefe  following 
counfels  to  give  you  before  I  go  out  of  rhe 
World  ,  expeding  to  have  von  ere  long  in  a 
condition,  which  will  require  more  vpifdom, 
holivefs,  and  for  tit  tide  t  than  I  fear  themoft  are 
yet  pofTcfTcd  of. 

I.  Refolve  by  the  grace  of  Go  J,  again fl  aH 
temptations*,  ad  through  all  difficulties,  faith- 
fully to  ply  jour  Minifterial  worl^You  fee  how 
muchSaranis  againtt  it,  and  how  he  tryeth 
every  way  to  hinder  it  :  fomerimes  by  force 
and  tears,  fam-rimes  by  flatteries,  fornetitnes 
as  that  old  Prophet  feduced  the  other,  by 
tomihg  as  in  Chrifts  name,  a-,  an  Angc 
tl^htj  and  by  Minifleri  of  RighteouiV.e^. 

F  %  Hi 


He  maketh  not  light  of  your  Miniftry ,  elfe  he 
would  not  do  fo  much  again  ft  it  -,  O  do  not 
vou   make  light  of  it.     Our  Ordination, 
Vow  and  Covenant  is  Holy !  If  Ananias  and 
Sapphira  dyed  for  alienating  conftcrated  mo- 
ney by  a  lye,  what  (hall  we  expec^if  we  alie- 
nate conftcrated  perfons  by  a  lye  :  Souls  are 
precious,  fia  is  ftrong,  Satan  is  fubtile,  the 
World  is  deceitful,  the  ftefh  is  unreafonable, 
deceivers  have  great  advantage, time  is  (hort; 
O  therefore  work  while  it  is  day,  for  the 
night  cometh  when  none  can  workj  Our  own 
floath  and  finis  the  moft  dangerous  filence. 
How  many  fouls  feed  or  famifh,  live  or  die,as 
we  do  our  duty,  or  negk  A  it  ?  Can  you  fpare 
your  fle(h  or  labour ,  when  you  think  what 
impenitent  fouls  muft  feel  for  ever  •  and  what 
the  Sandlfied  (ball  enjoy  ?  Would  you  not 
ftiine  your  felvesasStmin  the  Firmament? 
Would  you  not  be  found  by  Chrift  fo  doing  ? 
Would  you  not  convert  Sinners  from  the  er- 
rour  of  their  way,  when  it  is  the  favingofa 
foul  from  death,  and  covering  a  multitude  of 
fins  ?  What  ever  Word  of  God  deceivers  may 
abufe  to  ftop  your  mouths,  be  fure  that  holy 
Covenants  mull:  be  kept  •,  that  Sacrileges  a 
fin}  that  nature  it  felf  tells  you*  no  man  hath 
power  to  nullifie  your  Obligation  to  Charit\ 
it  felf  in  the  work  of  mens  Salvation  ^   that* 
the  love  of  God  dwelleth  not  in  you ,  if  you 
fee  your  Brother  have  nced  y  and  (hut  up  the 


(85) 
bowels  of  your  com  paffion  from  him:  Men 
may  regulate  your  charity  for  good,  but  not 
deftroy  it.    If  the  poor  were  famifhing  about 
you,  no  Law  can  difoblige  you  from  reliev- 
ing them.     Be  fure  that  neccjfitj  is  laid  on  all 
the  Minifters  of  Chrift  (though  not  by  the 
fame  t»ay  as  it  was  laid  on  the  Apoftles^ )  and 
woe  be  unto  them  if  they  preach  not  the  Go- 
fpel.    Fear  none  of  thofe  things  that  you  (hall 
fuflfer  .-  they  are  the  prognofticks  of  your 
Crown; You  fhali  judge  the  world  that  judg- 
eth  you  :  It  will  be  joyful  to  \\£*r,Tkefc  are 
they  that  came  out  of  great  Tribulation,  &c. 
Even  Dr.  Th.  Jack^fon  notably  concludeth, 
that  the  reafon  why  Martyrdom  among  Chri- 
ftians  now,  is  rarer  than  among  Unbelievers 
heretofore,  and  that  more  fuffcr  not,  as  John 
Baptifi  did  of  Herod ,  is  not  becaufe  Great 
ones  among  Chriftians  are  not  ready  to  do  as 
Hrr^did,  but  becaufe  Minifters  more  omit 
their  duty  j  The  deareft  duty  is  the  moft  gain- 
ful. 

2. 1  befeech  you,  Stud)  harder  that  you  may 
now  fo  preach  ,  as  that  you  may  convince  men 
fraElically,  thzt  you  are  really  ufeful  &  needful 
to  the  Worlds  and  that  your  Jilence  is  a  real  lofs. 
They  that  now  take  your  labours  to  be  need* 
lefs,  are  tempted  to  it  by  the  weaknefs  of  too 
many.  They  can  fcarcc  find  in  their  hearts  to 
fay  fo  of  any  Eminent  judicious  Men ;  If 
when  you  have  fo  long  made  the  World  be* 
F  3  lieve 


C86) 

Ikve.that  filencing  yoius  a  cnofl  heynotis  fi%% 
you  dial  now  preach  fo  r<3W?/y,fo  incongruoujly 
fo  injudicicufy,  &  unskilfully,  'of  coldly  as  to. 
confute  your  ieivc«,&  harden  t^hoft  that  were 
for  your  filence,  hew  great  will  your  (heme 
be?  If  you  will  be  thoughpffione  ufeful  than  o- 
thers  think  you,preacb  letter  i>ow  than  others 
do.     I  really  fear,   left  meer  Ncn-covftrmty 
have. brought  fome  into  reputation  as  con- 
fciexcious,  who  by  re  eah^pxe  aching  will  ii>fe  (ffc 
reputation  of  bung  judicious,  more  than  their 
filence  loft  it.      What  now  will  you  do  better 
and  ww?  than  others  to  prove  that  the  Nati- 
on cannot  fpare  you  ?  I  expeft  not  great 
Judgement  &C  Learning  in  ali  the  younger  (oit, 
nor  thole  that  in  thtfe  times  have  bin  kept 
from  ftudy,  by  labouring  to  get  their  chil- 
dren Bread:  but  verily  the  iyjudicioujyiefs  of 
too  many'  among  you,  is  for  a  lamentation. 
But  thegartd  calamity  is ,  rhar  the  moft  inju- 
dicious are  ufuatlj  the  tnoft  confident  and  felf- 
CQYiCeited  \   and  none  fo  commonly  give  way  to. 
their  igverant  z,ealt  tocenfurcy   hack^bite^  and 
reproach  others,  us  thofe  that  know  not  what  they 
tall^of.     I  impute  not  this  to  youasNon- 
Confbrmiils,  but  as  fens  ©f  Adam  :  for  ex- 
perience hath  convinced  met  th*t   PRIDE 
OF    UNDERSTANDING,    when 
men  have  little  to  be  proud  of,  or  confidence 
of  al!  mens  own  apprthenfkyns  ,  is  the  vice  of 
Men,  Women  and  Children  ,  when  they  arc 

Faft 


(*7) 

paft  eighteen  year*;  of  age,  which  feemeth  to 
be  moft  defperately    uncurable.     Few  forts 

yv  hut  i  e  always  in  the  right, and  o 
erroneous  in  comomibn  of  t'lem  :  as  D.d- 
laras  riccy  ft*  i^nora,  ce  of  tluir  Kc: 
So  that  I  fcar  not  the  pr:va\  ncy  utfcepticifm 
in  the  world  (  hough  I  fear  infidelity  ;  )  5V/f- 
coriceitednefs  ,  I  warrant  yo.i  will  keep  ic  un- 
v.ich  ancient*  as  Ep-kretn  S)r>ts,M4Curi?<s, 
M*riin,  &c.  who  were  of  little  Learning  but 
holy  a^.d  humble,  and  prciumed  not  above 
their  knowledge  ->  Were  honoured  in  ths 
Churches  :  bat  when  the  Egyptian  Holy 
Monks  would.  fluty  their  humble  pride  and 
ignorance,  by  tumults  and  z  alous  madnefr, 
to  feek  the  blood  of  the  Bifhops  ,  that  belie- 
ved not  that  God  had  Hands  and  Feet  like 
Men,  and  to  deftroy  thofe  as  ungodly  that 
were  not  as  foolifli  as  tfumfelves,  wtm  cou'd 
have  bin  more  fcandalous  again;:  the  honour 
of  Godlinefsand  Chriftianity  ? 

3.  Over  vdue  not  ywwn -Preaching,  ani 
under  vaIhc  not  other  mens  ,  becztife  tr/ef  are 
C-oHformfts.  T ht  nttmber  *nd  necejji-ties  of  the 
ignorant  and  ungodly  indeed  do  make  your  la- 
bours neceflary,  wtreyou  lefs  fie  than  many 
of  the  Conformifts :  but  that  proveth  you 
i\oi  more  able)  or  your  preaching  better  than 
theirs.  Partiality  may  make  fame  of  your 
own  mind,  think  all  weil  that  you  fay ,  and 
all  weak  tha:  others  fay  :  but  the  reft  of  men 
b  4  will 


(88) 
will  the  more  dcfpife  you.     Be  no*  wife  in 
your  own  conceit  ^  Look  not  every  man  at 
his  own  gifts  and  worth  ,  but  at  the  gifts  and 
worth  of  others:  In  honor  prefer  one  another; 
Pride  is  the  firft  born  of  the  Devil :  and  pride 
of  knowledge  and  goodnefs  is  more  common 
and  pernicious,  than  pride  ofCvmel)nefsf 
Wealth,  or  Greatness.     Mark  that  Preacher 
Conformable  or  Non-conformable,  who  ftri- 
veth  hardefi  for  his  own  honour,  and  would 
raife  it  by  difhononring  other s%  and  is  moil  im- 
patient of  all  that  clowdeth  him,  and  is  onely 
for  thofe  that  fet  him  up  •  and  look  out  no 
further  for  a  mark  oib*dneft>  but  take  that 
man  for  one  of  the  worfi,  how  well  foevcr  he 
preach  or  pray.  Except  Chrifts  Apoftles  had 
bin  converted  to  the  teachable  humble  ftate  of 
little  Children,  they  could-  not  have  entered 
into  the  Kingdom  of  Heaven,  Math.  18.  3. 
You  wear  not  the  Livery  of  Chrift  ,  if  you 
are  not  humble,  and  apter  to  think  meanly  of 
your  own  gifts  and  doings,  proportionally, 
than  of  other  mens.     How  unfavoury  is  it  to 
hear  a  Non-conformift  come  from  a  profita- 
ble Sermon  of  a  Conformift,  faying  (to  hin- 
der the  peoples  benefit,^  This  is  poor  drjfiuf, 
and  carping  at  every  incongruous  word  ^  as 
much  a*  to  fay,  lean  do  much  better  .-Through 
Gods  Me»  cy  f  jome  Conforraifts  preach  bet- 
ter than  many  of  you  can  do. 


(89) 
4-  Tet  difference  between  Conformable  Mi- 
niters ,  and  own  not  the  Atiniftry  of  any  that 
are  utterly  incompetent  and  into  erable\  Hear 
them  not  ordinarily  :  for  though  I  fay  not 
that  all  their  Miniftrations  arc  nullities,  yet 
I  fay  that  you  fhouid  not  encourage  an  intol- 
lerable  undertaker,  todeftroy  himfelf  and  O- 
thers.     By  into  erabU  men,  I  mean, 

'F*r ft, Such  as  are  ignorant  of \or  erroneous  a- 
gainft  theeffcntials  of  Chriftianity. 

Secondly  ,Such  as  are  utterly  unable  to  teach 
them  others. 

Thirdly,  Such  as  malignantly  Preach  down 

the  pra&ice  of  a  holy  life.    Or  in  a  word, 

thofe  whofeMimftry  is  fuch,as  really  tendeth 

to  do  more  hurt  than  good  y  from  fuch  turn 

away.     Yeav  where  the  Conformable  Mini  Iter 

may  be  tolerableyin  cafe  no  better  could  be  had, 

jet  if  indeed  his  teaching  be  fo  trifling,  and  fap- 

lefs,  as  is  like  to  do  but  little  good,  let  compaffion 

-move  you ,  to  take  more  liberty  jour  f elves  to 

teach   the  people  there,  than  under  tvorthjer 

Men.     Too  many  fuch  young  raw  triflcrs, 

I  confefs  I  have  heard  my  felf :  and  I  would 

not  have  order  or  humility  pretended,  to  turn 

Pteaching  into  a  Ceremony,  left  all  Religion 

be  next  taken  but  for  a  Ceremony.     It  is  a 

ferious  work,  and  muft  be  ferioufly  done. 

5  tfj°*  live  where  the  Conformable  Parifh 
Minifter  is  faithful  (  truly  endeavouring  the 
falvation  of  his  Flocks)    1  charge  you  in   the 

name 


(90) 
v*me  vfChrift  Do  not  onelyy\f  pojfib/e,  as  much 
4$  in  you  Ijeth,  live  i*  love>  fa-mharity  and 
-peace  with  him,  but  alfo  do  all  that  pit  can  to 
maintain  his  honour^  and  promote  his  rvorkj.  Be 
not  Strangers  to  him  :  Diitance  breedeth 
uncharitable  thoughts.  If  you  hear  or  fee  a- 
ny  thing  that  you  diflike,  go  privately  and 
lovingly,  and  tell  him  of  it  :  if  any  behind 
his  back  dilhonour  him,  rebuke  them.  If  he 
look  for  fome  fuperiority  over  you, and  fome 
,<pbfervance  from  you,  deny  it  not  :  It  is  a 
duty  to  fubmic  to  one  another.  Youcan  tell 
a  Prelate,  that  he  that  will  be  the  greateft, 
muft  be  the  Servant  of  all  :  Praftice  as  you 
preach.  He  that  fcorns  to  ftoope  is  proud, 
as  well  as  he  that  would  have  Men  ftoope  to 
.him.  Live  with  him  as  a  Brother  and  as  a  Ser- 
vant, in  meeknefs,  humility,  and  gentknefs 
of  behaviour  :  And  do  not  like  our  young 
paiiionate  Perfons,traTt*ple  vipon  him,as  if  his 
Conformity  had  put  him,  as  a  (inner,  below 
you  as  more  Holy  thaahe,  and  under  the 
Magiftery  of  your  Reproofc  You  and  I 
think  that  he  hath  Tinned  :  But  he  thinks 
that  it  is  we  thai  (in  :  And  he  that  is  without 
jfin,  let  him  cafi  the  fir  ft  Hon  \  I  charge 
you  Love  him,  as  your  felve^and  behind  his 
back  fay  nothing,  and  do  nothing/  bat  what 
is  fit  to  teftifie  fuch  love.  Let  all  men.  thus 
jknow  that  you  are  GhrilK  Difciples :  For  all 
your  Nonconformity,    you  are  no   better 

than 


(9U 

than  he,  if  you  be  not  more  Charitable  than 
he.  If  you  kt  you**  ftlves  in  a  dividing  way, 
f:  crctly  to  rejoice  at  his  Difparagemcnc,  and 
to  draw  a<;  many  frcm  h:m  a<  you  can  ;  you 
ae  but  Deftrojers  of  the  Church  of  God  : 
Cail  your  fdves  what  you  will,  I  will  call  you 
Deftrojers  if  you  are  Divider -/.Yea  much  that 
elfe  would  be  your  Duty,  mull  be  omi  teed  to 
avoid  Divifion.  The  worl^of  Gody  the  good 
of  Souls,  the  Deforce  of  the  Prtfeftart  Re- 
ligion againft  r^,rcqi.iireyour  mod  con- 
joyned  ftrength ;  \nd  you  are  berriyers  ofal] 
tlufe,if  you  are  Divider  s.S\\ppo(z  your  felves 
as  ChappeUCurats  under  the  ParifhMini- 
ft;r>,and  fo  in  concord  perform  your  work, 
6.  Therefore  go  as  oft-a&yoH  can  to  his  Con- 

fregations  and  hold  Communion  ferfonully  ■■- 
m,  and  lead  the  people  with  joh.  Do  not  fay, 
Now  we  have  opportunity  to  do  better,  it-is 
unlawful  to  jojn  with  themthat  do  worfe  :  Tar 
though  it  be  not  lawful  for  you  to  regleft 
your  own  Duty  and  opportunity>  it  is  lawful 
for  you  by  D-sei  as  weu  as  j-Vord,  to  ftew 
your  Chriflian  Concord  md  Comm^rsori  :  and 
fo  to  dojaxyy  make  it  a:  t!  at  time  mi.ch  better 
which  elfe  inrogard  of  the  manner  would  be 
worfe.  0:herwifc if  ene  Preacher,  p;ay  and 
preach  better  than  all  the*  reft,  all  the  people 
fhould  be  bound  to  foifake  their vMinifttrs& 
go  to  him  as  one  that  doth  better.  But  bsnttm 
$fi  ex  caufis  integris:  Difjunttion  and  HI  effects* 

may 


(n) 

your   better  mode  of  Worfllip  mrfel 

7.  Therefore  in  Parifbes  where  all  may  well 
hear  the  Parifb  Minifttry  I  would  not  havejou^ 
without  necejfity,  preach  at  the  fame  hour  as  he 
doth,  but  at  fome  middle  time  ;  that  you  may 
not  feem  to  via  with  him  for  Auditors,nor  to 
draw  the  people  from  him  •  But  let  them  go 
with  you  to  hear  him,  and  after  come  and 
hear  you  (or  before}  )  But  in  London  and 
great  Parifties  where  all  cannot  come  to  the 
Parifh  Church  ,  as  alfo  in  Pari  flies  where  the 
Minifter  is  not  to  be  owned \  I  perfwade  you  to 
no  foch  obfervation  :  It  is  fo  inconvenient  to 
the  people  there ,  to  be  caft  upon  unmeet 
hours,  that  I  perfwade  you  not  to  doit. 

g.  Where  the  Parifb  Minifter  is  to  be  heard 
by  jot*  and  jour  hearers^  Ithinkjtbeft  to  preach 
ther  but  once  a  dty,a  nd  at  fome  neighbour  place 
that  hath  mo  ft  needy  the  other  part.  My  rea- 
fons  are, 

Fir  ft,  Becaufe  the  people  cannot  hear  and 
digeft  four  Sermons  a  day,  nor  three  well : 
and  thofe  that  hear  you  twice,  will  not  go 
to  the  Parifh  Church 5  and  fo  you  will  but 
draw  them  away ,  from  that  which  might 
profit  them  as  well  as  yours.  And  it  ispreaeh- 
Ing  well  that  more  affs&eth  people ,  then 
Preaching  long  or 'often. 

Secondly ,  Becaufe,  alas,  you  will  hardly 
live,  where  fome  Neighbour  Parifh  hath  not 
fa  bad  a  Minifter ,  as  that  the  p:oplehave 

more 


mors  need  of  help  ^  and  ihe  reft  of  youc 
pains  may  be  beftowed  on  Week-day  Lc 
dares,  as  the  people  have  leifurc. 

9.  Therefore  I  greatly  defire,  that  in  fuch 
places  you  would  beftow  the  greater  half  of 
your  labour  in  private,  in  skilful  exhorting 
people  from  houfe  to  houfe  ?  If  you  did  not 
fo  before  you  were  filenced,  repent  betime  ^ 
If  you  did,  you  have  found  the  benefit  of  it. 
This  is  it,  which  few  Conformifts  do,  and  in 
this  you  may  beft  live  as  their  true  Affiftants. 
Publick  hearing  without  perfonal  conference, 
fcldom  bringeth    men  to  underftand  well 
what  you  fay.     Brethren,  let  me  ask  yotsas 
before  God  :  Why  hath  no  more  of  this  bin 
done  while  you  were  filer  ced?  Is  it  not  too 
much  Hypocrifie,  to  cry  out  againft  them 
that  forbid  us  Preaching,  which  is  one  half 
of  our  duty,  ar.d  in  the  mean  time  wilfully  to 
negled  that  part  which  none  forbid  us  ?  I 
fpeak  not  of  them  that  were  driven  fiom  all 
Cities   and  Corporations   where  their  ac- 
quaintance enabled  them,  and  forced  to  live 
where  they  had  no  fuch  opportunity  5  nor  of 
them  that  through  poverty  had  not  time. 
But  molt  men  might  have  done  naore  this 
way  than  was  done}  This  way  thePapiits 
have  done  their  work.    And  it  is  very  confi- 
derable^hatmoft  that  come  to  your  Chapptl  v 
Meetings,  are  fuch  as  you  take  for  the  IcaQ 
needy,  as  being  alrea^'  turned  unto  Goc 

Bu 


(n) 

But  from  houfe  to  houfe  "you  may  fpeak  with 
themoreignoiar:: :  for  fome  ot  them  its  like 
jvillhearyoa,  '  ifinceiity  incline^  men 
to  that  way  of  duty  that  hath  lead  oltcnta- 
tion. 

10.  Preach  Faith  and  Repentance,  the 
tommon  Catechifm  principles ,  (which  are  of 
greateft  need  and  ufe,and  rcq  «ire  the  grcatcft 
skill  in  Preachers,)  -and  do  net  on  pretence  of 
going  higher  ,  trouble  the  peoples  hexds  with 
umieceffarj  things,  nor  turn  thcin  after  vain 
/anglings  :  much  Kftagainft  Confoimity,  or 
any  thing  that  rcflcftcth  upon  the  Pariflt 
Minifters.  ,  You  may  quickly  kindle  in  your 
Religious  Hearers  a  taftious  opinionative 
kind  ofzral,  that  (hall  make  them  firebrands 
in  the  Church*  and  no  whit  tend  to  favd 
their  fouls.  And  you  may  deceive  your  felves 
i>y  exercifing  fuch  an  opinionative  zeal,while 
you  think  you  are  doing  the  work  of  Chrift. 
O  how  happy  had  [he  Churches  bin  ,  if  in- 
ftead  of  all  the  Schoolmens  &  old  contenders 
curlofities  ofthe  Trinity,  and  alt  the  blind 
difpurcs  of  Predeftination  and  Free-will,  and 
aii  the  b\.fle  about Eptfcopacie,  Presbytery, 
Independency  ,  Anabaptiftry  ,  &c.  the 
Churches  had  Heard  the  Baptilftul  Covenant 
it  felf,  With  the  Creed,  Lords  Prayer,  and 
D  caiogue  wtl!  opened,  and  mens  hearts 
had  bin  more  fired  with  the  love  of  God  in 
Chnil,  rather  than  thur  heads  hcacedwith 


(95; 

fiich  cortroverfie*,  as  the  poor  people  cannot 
manage,  but  only  by  unskilful  Teachers,  arft 
tempted  by  them  to  be  difturbers  of  the 
Church. 

1 1 .   If  there  be  any  among  jour  people?  that  by 
fuch  a  ftnful  unpeaceable  z^eal?  vrih  be  c  en  faring 
&  deriding  ConjcrmifisJndependents^Anabap' 
tijis,  or  any  hemft  tolerable  a\ Renters }z nd  trill 
be  reproaching  thim  behind  their  backs  <>and  ma- 
^jVgthim  odious  to  the  Hearers  ,  rebuke  them 
Jbarply,   and  cherifh  rot  their  fin  •  And  if 
they  hear  not,  rebuke  them  before  all,  and  if 
they  amend  not,  caft  them  out  of  your  Com- 
munion :  and  as  you  love  your  felves,  the 
Church  and  others,  let  not  the  proudtft  cen- 
ferious  people  be  yourMafters  :    Take  heed 
of  that  bafe  complying  humour,  that  maketh 
feme  they  dare  not  difpleafe  them,  leaft  they 
fhould  call  them  as  bad  as  they  do  the  Con- 
formifts.     For  if  you  come  to  this,  it  is  the 
Women  and  Boy  that  have  leaft  knowledge, 
and  moft  proid  cenforious  psflions, that  will 
be  the  Church  Governours.     Keep  your  Au* 
thority,  let  them  take  it  how  they  will,  and 
be  rot  f.rvile  followers  of  the  peoples  errcurs 
and  irregular  ways. 

12.  Pojfefs  your  Hearers  with  true  Gofpel 

principles  of  Love,  that  they  maj  be  fir/}  pp>rey 

,  then  peaceable  and  gentle.      Preach  zeaioifly 

for  Lovcy  zgainft  love-killing  envious  z?al. 

Teach  them  to  know  that  all  men  are  imper- 

f<a 


{90) 
ftSt  and  faulty,  and  foisall  Mens  Worfhip 
of  Gad  ;  and  that  he  that  will  not  commu- 
nicate with  faulty  Worfhip,  muft  renounce 
communion  with  all  the  World  (and  all  with 
him.)  Unteach  them  that  falfe  conceit,that 
all  Book-prayers  are  unlawful,  yea,  or  all 
that  is  impofed ;  Read  over  to  them  thofe 
Pfalcns  that  have  frequent  repetitions  and  re- 
fponfes,  that  they  may  know  that  fuch  are 
not  unlawful.  If  it  be  lawful  for  the  people 
to  fimg  Gods  praife  ,  it  is  not  unlawful  to  fay 
it.  Do  you  doubt  of  the  confequence ;  Prove 
to  us. ,  what  difference  there  was  between  the 
ancienty?tfg/«£,and  our  Laudatory  faying,  and 
you  will  find  your  task  too  hard.  Unteach 
them  that  paultry  principle,  of  placing  Re- 
ligion in  being  crofs  to  the  reft  of  the  Congre- 
gation. As  when  they  will  not  (land  up  at 
the  Creed,  or  at  all  the  Hymns  of  praife, 
when  reafon  andufe  tell  us,  that  (landing  up 
k  a  convenient  praifing  gefture  $  and  when 
the  primitive  Churches  (  from  an  unknown 
original,  calling  it  an  Apoftolical  Tradition) 
unanimoufly  commanded  (landing  only, in  all 
the  Lords  Days  Adorations  5  which  btcaufe 
we  cannot  now  well  obferve,  it  is  decently 
confined  to  praifes  only.  And  in  this  the 
Conformifts  do  better  and  more  decently  than 
you  :  and  it  is  forry  perverfnefs  to  fly  from 
a  better  way,  becaufe  that  others  ufe  it.  Un- 
teach ihem   t^eir  unwarrantable  felfmad' 

TeH 


{97) 
Tells  of  Church  Communion  ;  as  if  there 
mull  be  any  other  proof  of  Holinefs  needs  gi- 
ven, befides  a  fober  prefeffionnf  Chriftianiij, 
fthat  is,  of  the  Baptifmal  Covenant  )  not 
proved! j  contratdifted  by  Herefiey  or  a  wicked 
life  :  If  we  are  Non-Conformifts,    becaufe 
we  cannot  comply  with  all  that  we  think  to 
be  invented  uncapable  terms  of  Communion 
from  others,  w!,y  fhall  we  make  fjch  engines 
to  divide  the  Churches  our  felves,  and  do  the 
very  things  which  we  condemn  in  others. 
Unteach  them  their  expeditions,  that  nil  the 
Church  wuj}  be  {At  is  flea  of  the  Jincerity  of  each 
Communicant  •   or  that  the  pre  fence  of  the  U4- 
rvorthji  who  are  admitted  by  their  own  falfe 
profejfionj  or  by  the   Afwifters  fault ,   doth  _ 
make  it  unlawful!  to  other*  there  to  commu- 
nicate. T  he  Book  called,  The  Cure  of  Church 
Divifions  will  tell  you  more  fuch  dividing 
principles ,  which  you  m-jft  unteach  them. 
rhe  Minirters  that  have  bred  and  cherifhed 
thefe,  have  bin  our  fubverters,  and  are  our 
[hame :  and  fuch  principles  are  the  fhame  of 
too  many  welt  meaning  honed  people.    Woe 
to  the  felfifh  Teachers ,  that  for  their  per- 
tonal  intereft,  dare  not  contradict  them,  but 
:herifh  them   into  tluir  dividing  errours  y 
vhen  their  eyes  are  opened, and  they  fee  tlteir 
niftakes,  they  will  be  tempted  to  (hew  their 
>wn  diflike  of  them,  by  running  as  hr  on  the 
rxtrearae  of  formality  -,In  a  word,  help  to  fave 
G  Rett- 


Religious  people   rrom    Demg  juperjttttous 
while  they  cry  out  againft  fuperftition  •,  aid 
make  them  know  that  a  Religion  which  con- 
fifteth  in  our  own  modes  and  ways  of  worfliip, 
and  in  decrying  other  mens,  may  ftand  with 
all  unmodified  fin ;  and  that  the  fle/h  is  no 
more  denyed  by  fitting,  than  by  kneeling*  and 
that  to  fay  I  am  Godly  becaufe  my  geitures, 
and  orders  are  more  Scriptural  than  the  Con- 
formifts,  is  a  pittiful  way  for  an  Hypocrite 
to  cheat  his  foul  :  and  make  them  know  that 
few  things  have  hardened  menagainft  Reli- 
gion, and  made  Non-Gonformifts  a  fcorr 
mftead  of  being  helpers  of  mens  fouls  y  fo 
much  as  to  fee  that  many  place  rheir  Religi- 
on in  fuperftitions  of  their  own,  Touch  not. 
tafinot*  handle  not$  and  make  it  piety  to  a- 
void  that  as  fin,  which  is  no  fin  :  and  ther 
men  judge  of  all  the  reft  by  this. 

1 3 .  And  I  will  prefume  co  tell  you  my  opi- 
nion, as  of  a  matter ,  not  abfolutely  neceffa 
ry,  but  at  this  time,  of  fuch  convenience,**  ii 
I  were  to  keep  a  Church- Meeting,  I  wouU 
refolve  upon  ic,  as  my  duty  :  and  that  is,tha 
jour  own  pr attic e  now  (hew  a  found  znd.  healing 
judgement  about  that  Church-troubling  Centre* 
verfie  of  Praying  freely,  or  by  Forms  •  §vti 
that  now  you  would  fe.a fox  ably  do  both.  Th< 
contention  about  this  hath  bin  (Tnildifh,  anc 
yet  a  fire  not  yet  quenched  in  the  Church 
while  one  belyeth  God,as  if  he  had  forbiddex 

al 


K99) 
II  FREE  Prayer  in  the  Church;  and  cr 
lers  belye  him  as  if  he  had  forbidden  all 
ormi  or  5^-prayer :  when  God  hath  left 
otb  free,  to  be  done  as  edification  mod  re- 
irireth.      His    underftanding  is  low  that 
linketh  eicher  of  them  firaply   unlawful  -, 
id  he  knoweth  little  in  fuch  matters,  that 
loweth  not,  that  both  -ways  have)nany  zvA 
'cat  conveniences  ,  and  both  have  many  and 
•eat  accidental  inconveniences,  (which  having 
mmerated  elfe  where  I  muft  not  now  re- 
at.)  And  they  that  are  all  for  the  one  only, 
the  other  only,  (hall  have  all  the  inconve- 
ences  with  the  benefits  :  but  he  that  will 
tfonablj  ufe  both,  (hall  have  the  benefits  of 
th,  and  the  leaft  part  of  the  inconveniences 
'either)  Therefore  in  the  Churches  of  Eng- 
ndy  free  prayers  were  allowed  in  the  Pal- 
ts,  after  the  Liturgy. 

And  pardon  me  far  faying,  that  w:hen  this 
tty  controvefiie  hath  fo  much  diftrafted  us, 
ofe  Minifters.  thatufc  but  one  way  onely, 
:m  fcandaloufly  to  the  people  to  be  onely 
r  that  way,  and  fo  do  harden  them  in  their 
rour,   and  keep  the  fire  burning  in  the 
iurch.      Hethatprayethonjy  by  Book 
»rm,  perfwadeth  the  poor  people  that-free 
*)er  is  Fanatical,  uncertain  and  uni 
d  they  that  never  pray  ctherwife,  perfwL 
e  poor  people,  thac  all  Forms  or  I 
ay  ers  are  unlawful  -7  if  a  whoje  partv 
G  2 


in  forbearing  all  Forms  at  fuch  a  time  as  this, 
when  fo  many  take  them  for  unlawful. ,  And 
fo  they  corrupt  mens  very  Religion ,  and 
teach  them  to  make  dutits  and  fins  to  them* 
felves  which  God  never  made,  and  thereby 
fet  them  in  a  way  of  Hypocrifie,  Self  delu- 
fion,  and  endlefs  quarreling  with  others. 

I  prefcribe  to  no  man  ^  and  toleration  fo 
far  taketh  off  publick  Impofitions,  as  that 
none  can  now  fay,  This  Form  is  impofedon  mey 
and  therefore  unlawful.     But  fthough  I  will 
not  bind  my  felf)  I  here  tell  the  world,  That 
if  my  firength  and  toleration,  and  a  calljhwld 
ever  more  give  me  opportunity  for  the  free  exer--i 
cifeofmine  Office,  I  would  fometimes  pray  free- 
ly without  Forms ,  and  fometimes  ufefeme  part 
efthe  common  Liturgy ,  and  fometimes  nfethe 
Reformed  Liturgy  ,  which  in  1660.  was  agreea 
on   by    the    Commiffioned  Non-Confofmifis  <, 
(though  being  done  in  cxtrcam  haft,itfhould 
be  reviewed  and  perfe&ed  :  )  I  would  ordina- 
rily pronounce  the  Creed,  {as  the  Faith  which 
the  Church  Jjfcmbleth  in  the  yrofeffion  of,) 
and  ordinarily  recite  the   Lords  Prayer  and 
^Decalogue  y  and  read  two    Chapters  and  the 
Pfalms :  And  they  that  would  not  joynin 
this  way  of  Worfhip,  fhould  freely  go  choofe 
thtm  a  Teacher  more  agreeable  to  their  opi- 
nions :  fori  would  not  fcrve  the  humours  of 
any  in  their  dividing  errours. 

And 


(101) 

And  Brethren,  endure  me  to  tell  you, 

i.  Thatpleafing  the  ignorant  profeflfors 
i  mours,  is  a  fin  that  flieweth  us  too  hu- 
iane  and  carnal,  and  hath  always  fad  effcSs 
claft. 

2.  And  thatlconfefs  to  you  I  think  jour 
ayisfhert^  and  chit  it  is  now  of  moreim- 
orunce,what  the  future  effects  of  your  courft 
nil  be  to  pofterity  ^or  tbofe  to  come,  than  how 
c  will  take  with  your  prefent  followers.  And 
/hen  the  Hiftory  of  this  Age  is  written  ,  do 
hat  now  which  you  would  have  there  re- 
orded.  My  chief  meaning  is,  This  will  be  a 
ontr  over  fie  when  we  are  dead  and  gone :  Do  that 
tow,  which  being  recorded  may  be  ft  tend  to  the 
>ight  decifion  of  it  then.  Leave  to  Pofterity 
\ow  jqh  have  liberty,  that  example  (as  well  as 
void;)  which  thou  would  have  them  follow. 
rempt  not  future  Contenders  to  plead  that 
ill  Forms  are  unlawful  by  your  examples. 

If  any  fay,  JVejball  thus  loofe  our  people^anX 
heSeparatiftjiwho  will  cheri/b  allfuch  humours, 
vill  have  them  all :  I  anfwer,  We  have  too 
ongtryedthe  pleafing  ^ay  already,  and  fee 
:hat  we  cure  not,  but  chenfli  their  difcafe. 
rake  Gods  way,  and  let  us  deny  ourfelves, 
as  well  with  the  humourous  people  as  we  have 
done  with  the  Conformifts,  .and  then  leave 
the  iffue  to  God.  And  if  they  will  follow 
Separates,  it  is  fitter  that  they  be  mifkad  by 
fuch  erroneous  perfons,  than  by  you. 

G  3  H  And 


(uoz) 
14.  And  on  this  occafion  let  me 
word  to  this  kind  of  Religious  people  : 
notafliamc  to  you  that  your  worthie 
nifters  (hould  be  fain  to  go  befides  thei 
judgement  in  Gods  Worfhip  to  humou 
And  that  they  muft  tell  the  world,  We  \ 
mix  Free-prayer  and  Forms  in  public) 
the  people  then  will  be  gone  to  the  Si 
rifts.  I  fay  not  that  they  go  againft 
Conferences  •  For  their  confidences  ha 
reded  them  to  omit  what  elfe  would  ha 
fitted,  left  croAing  your  humour,  it  ( 
drive  you  away  to  your  own  fubvei 
But  how  came  you  to  be  fo  much  kolji 
wifer  than  the  Holyeft  and  wifeft  of 
Teachers?  Mark,  is  it  not  more  of  the 
men  and  Apprentices  thac  are  of  this  1 
than  of  the  old  experienced  Chriftian 
it  not  a  high  degree  of  Pride  for  perf 
your  ftanding  and  under/landing*  to  cor 
that  allmoft  all  Chrifts  Churches  I 
World  for  thefe  thirteen  hundred  years  a 
to  this  day,  have  offered  fuch  worfhip 
God,  as  that  you  are  obliged  to  avc 
and  all  their  Communion  in  it }  And  th; 
moft  all  the  Catholick  Church  on  t 
this  day  ,  is  below  your  Communic 
ufing  Forms?  And  that  even  Calvin  ai 
Presbyterians,  Cartwright,  Hildcrfham 
the  old  Non-  conformifts,  were  unwort 
your  Communion:  Would  yQU  have  run 


cm  D$d  or  Perkins ,  or  from  Cyprian  or 
fugufiihe,  and  faid,  They  are  formal  Fel- 
ws%  not  to  be  joyned  with  ?  Doth  God  ufe 
Miracle  to  make  felf-conceiced  Women 
nd  young  Nfcn,  fo  much  wifer  than  the  moft 
icient  ftudious  experienced  Divines.  It  is 
?ft  then  m  t  :-n  Preachers  before  we  grow 
d    and  to  avoid  ft udy  and  experience  left  ii 

inorant  than  we  were.       e 

Brethren  and  Friends,  I  profefs  for  your 

any  of  you  are  our  joy,  and  it  is 

-  that  we  have  done  and  fuffered  for 

isces  $  Bjt  I  muft  tell  you  (for  Adver- 

ricswill  cMl  i:  you)  that  for  your  ignorance, 

judicial fnsfs  ,   pride,  [elf* conceit ednefs^  you 

ir  grief  zndjhame.    We  are  hit  in  the 

feth   xv\tk  (vch  fglf  wife  ignorant  giddy  un- 

aceabie  followers ;   And  we  have  nothing  to 

y  ,  but  to  blufti,  and  fay  that  you  mean 

t/l,  and  that  it  is  not  kng  of  us.     Can  Gods 

>irit  which  ordain eth  Elders  to  be  Paftors 

his  Church,  be  the  Guide  of  your  jadge- 

ents,  when  with  fjch  fhamelefs  pride  you 

tup  your  errours  againft  the  knowledge  of 

>ur  Guides  ?  \iyoa  are  wifeft  bzyou  the  Pa- 

)rsy  (which  fome  are  prone  enough  to  ar- 

gate.)     Itfliameth  us,  it  grieveth  us,  to 

e  and  hear  from  England  ^  and  from  New- 

ngland,t\\is  common  cry,  W*  are  endangered 

DivifionSj  principally  becaufe  the  felfcen- 

G  4  ceited 


(104; 

ceited  part  of  the  Religions  people ,  mil  not  be 
ruled  by  their  Pallors,  but  mufl  have  their  way, 
and  will  needs  hi  Rulers  of  the  Church  and 
them. 

Yea,  I  tell  you  with  truth  and  grief,  I  am 
confident  (ntxt  to  mens  own  fin,  which  lea- 
veth  them  to  a  judicial  delufion,)  nothing  hath 
done  more  to  jet  up  Popery  and  the  Prelacy  you 
dijlik$>  than  the  fcandalous  in fiances  of  your  un- 
rulinefs  and  Church  tearing  humours:    And 
that  you  have  made  more  Papifts,  than  ever 
you  or  we  are  like  to  recover.     Nothing  is 
any  whit  confiderable  thataPapift  hath  to 
fay, till  he  cometh  to  your  cafe  and  h\th>Doth 
not  experience  tell  you  ,  that  without  Papal  uni- 
ty >>  and  force  y  thefe  people  wiU  never  be  ruled  or 
united?  \t\$jou  that  tempt  them  to  uf:fire 
and  Fagot ,  that  will  not  be  Ruled  nor  kept 
in  concord,  by  the  wife  ft,  and  holyeft  and 
rood  fclf-denying  Minirters  on  Earth .    Even 
Ainfworth  the  Learnedeftand  GodlyeftPa- 
floroftheSeparatifts,  though  he  went  with 
them  beyond  Sea  ,  and  was  of  their  opinion, 
and  carded  wooll  to  maintain  hirafelf  while 
he  was  their  Teacher,  yet  could  Rot  keep  that 
one  feparated  Church  in  peace.    And  rauft 
you,  even  you  thatftiould  be  our  comfort, 
become  ourfhame,  and  break  our  heartland 
make  men  Papifts  by  your  temptation.   Woe 
to  the  World,  becaufe  of  offences,  and  woe 
to  fornc  by  whom  they  come. 

I 


I  thank  God,  I  fpeak  not  my  own  cafe  •  I 
think  thofe  many  Religious  people  that  I 
have  had  the  overfight  of,  are  as  ready  to  be 
ruled  by  me,  and  a*  undivided,  as  any  that 
cwr  I  have  known  ?  But  alas,  in  too  many 
places  it  is  otberwifc:  Should  the  Minifters  in 
London,  that  have  fuffcred  fo  long  ,  but  ufe 
any  part  of  the  Liturgy  and  Scripture  Forms, 
though  without  any  motive,  but  the  plea- 
fing  of  God,&  the  Churches  good,what  mut- 
tering and  cenfuring  would  there  be  againft 
them?  And  woe  to  thofe  few  Teachers  that 
make  up  their  defigns  by  chcrifhing  thefe  di- 
ners.   One  would  think  that  their  warn- 

bia  fair .     But ft  nati  fint  ad  bis 

ingHam  > The  Lord  have 

mercy  01, 

15.  Seeing  p'aces  and  numbers  and  other 
Church-circun,ftances  are  matters  left  to  hur 
mane  prudence,  be  fnre  that  you  prudentiallj 
difcern  the  diver  jit  j  of  duties,  according  to  the 
diver  fit j  of  pUces  and  occafions.  Thefe  things 
I  here  include, 

-F/ri?,  That  you  be  not  of  thofe  Church- 
tearers  opinion,  who  muft  have  all  go  juft  one 
way,  in  all  thofe  undetermined  variable 
things-  And  will  cenfure  all,  and  take  them 
for  dividers,  that  do  not  as  they  do. 

Secondly,  That  Edification  or  the  Public^ 
good  is  the  end,  rule  and  meafure  of  thefe  Pru- 
dential actions. 

Thirdly 


(   I  TO  J 

Thirdly,  That  in  looking  to  this  rule  and 
end  ,  you  muft  not  look  only  to  your  pre- 
fent  Congregation  ortheprefent  Age,  but 
to  all  the  Churches  abroad,  and  to  pofterity. 

Fourthly ,  That  nothing  here  (hould  be 
rafhly  done,  but  by  great  advife. 

Fifthly*,  That  therefore  other  Brethren,  (as 
well  diflenting  as  confenting  Minifters) 
fliould  for  fafety  be  confultcd  with,  not  to  be 
your  Governours,  but  for  Counfel  and  for 
Concord. 

Sixthly y  To  which  end  correfpondencies 
of  Minifters  is  neceffaty. 

16.  In  thofe  places  where  the  name  of  a  di- 
fiinff  Church,  and  that  your  administration  of 
the  Sacraments  is  like  to  do  more  harm  than 
good,  it  is  your  duty  to  forbear  it,  and  only  to 
Teach.  How  to  difcernthis.  Prudence  and 
Counfel  muft  dired  you  :  If  there  be  a  wor- 
thy Parifh  Mtnifter,  and  the  people  arc  all  or 
almoft  all  fatisfied  (or  may  be  fausfied  by  you) 
to  communicate  with  him  according  to  the 
liturgy,andif  your  own  adminiftration  would 
ftir  up  fo  much  offence  and  hurt,  as  that  the 
benefit  cannot  countervail  it,  the  cafe  is  plain. 
But  ifyoulivein  London,  or  where  all  the  peo- 
ple cannot  come  to  the  Pari/b  Church,  or  the 
Afinifier  is  intolerable ,  and  the  good  is  like, 
(on  prudent  advifej  to  be  apparent! y  greater 
then  the  hurt,  I  know  not  but  you  may 

I,  Know  your  flock  by  name. 

2.  And 


1 107; 

2.  And  take  it  either  as  a  Chappel  (in  fome 
places)  or  as  a  dirtied  Neighbour  Church  (in 
other  places.) 

3 .  Duely  Adminifter  the  Sacraments. 

4  And  foberly  and  wifely  ufe  Chrifts  Dis- 
cipline. 

17.  BefurethvX  the  Concord  of  all  the  true 
Proteftant  Non-Conformifts  Churches,  be  eft a- 
bUJhedupon  the  (imj.le  ancient  Catholic^  terms  y 
and  not  upon  any  felf-devifed  Additions: 
That  is,that  all  chat  own  the  Scripture  in  ge- 
nera!,  and  th?  Baptifmal  Covenant,  the 
Creed.Lords  Prayer,  and  Decalogue  in  par- 
ticular (as  the  fummary  of  Holy  Belief,  holy 
Defires,and  holy  Brattice*)  be  taken  for  fel- 
low Christians,  till  it  be  proved  againft  them 
that  bv  Here  fie  or  rrickednc/s  they  nullifie  this 
prordlion.  This  is  the  Rule  and  Teft  of  uni- 
versal concord.  Here  all  agree  :  And  if  after 
this  one  Church  will  ufe  Forms  of  Prayer,and 
another  will  not,  one  will  Baptize  Infants, 
and  another  will  delay  it,  &c.  they  are  dif- 
ferences that  rauft  be  born,  where  Love  and 
Reafon  cannot  heal  them,  without  breach  of 
Charity,  Concord  or  Communion  •,  yea  in 
the  fame  Church,  fuch  different  opinions 
may  be  born,  further  than  as  thofe  that  dif- 
fent  from  the  Paftorsmode  of  worfhip ,  will 
feparate  themfelves  when  none  reje&eth  thtm. 
We  have  all  naturally  a  Pope  born  in  us,  and 
when  men  have  never  fo  much  talkt  againft 

Popery 


Popery  and  Prelacy,  too  many  cenfure  or  run 
away  from  all  that  arc  not  of  their  way. 

If  any  tell  you  that  fo  wide  an  enterance 
will  let  into  the  Church  Socinians  and  other 
Hereticks,  who  will  rais-expound  the  words, 
Ask  them  again, 

Firft ,  Whether  Baptifing  men  is  not  a 
taking  them  into  the  Church  ?  And  whether 
the  Apoftles  and  Churches  for  many  hundred 
years ,  required  any  more  of  thofe  that  were 
Baptized?  And  whether  their  bufinefs  be  to 
fhew  themfelves  wifer  than  the  Apoftles,  and 
the  primitive  Church  ? 

Secondly,  Whether  Hereticks  will  not  fub- 
fcribe  to  all  the  Scripturc,while  they  mifinter- 
pret  it  -,  And  whether  all  the  Scripture  there- 
fore be  not  big  enough  for  a  Creed  ? 

Thirdly?  Whether  all  Herefie  be  not  a  con- 
tradiction of  fome  of  the  aforefaid  Articles 
of  Faith,and  he  that  faith,  I  believe  this  Creed 
and  all  that  is  contrary  to  it,  renounce  not  all 
Herefie. 

Fourthly  ,  Whether  all  Laws  be  faulty 
which  men  can  mifinterpret-  And  whether 
the  >  Law  muft  be  changed  and  enlarged  as  oft 
as  any  break  it. 

Fifthly,  Whether  all  the  Volumnsof  Ge- 
neral Councils,  be  not  yet  too  little  by  that 
rule,  the  fence  of  many  being  ftill  contro- 
verted? 

Sixthly ,  If  we  mud  have  new  Creeds  and 

Church 


Church  Articles  as  oft  as  Hercticks  mifer- 
pound  the  old,whether  it  be  not  in  the  power 
of  the  Devil  and  Hereticks  to  make  our  Faith 
ridiculoufly  alterable  every  year,  till  it  grow 
intolerably  voluminous  ? 

Seventhly  ,  And  who  is  it  that  mud  be  ftiil 
the  Creed-makers  or  menders  ?  And  where 
will  they  flop  ?  And  how  (hall  we  know  when 
we  have  all? 

Eighthly,  Is  he  a  wife  Paftor,  that  rcadeth 
how  the  Churches  have  ever  fince  the  Coun- 
cil at  Nice  bin  difira&ed  with  new  Creeds, 
and  yet  will  take  no  warning?  Read  how 
Hilary  Pitt,  inveigheth  agair.ft  them.  When 
they  vexed  Hierome  himfelf  with  fufpicions 
of  Herefie  about  the  Trinity,  (becaufe  he 
was  not  for  the  term  Hypoftafis  as  a  per/on) 
his  anfwer  was,  They  askjne  of  my  Belief  (or 
Faith)  as  if  Ih^dbin  New-horn  (or  Baptised) 
without  a  Belief:  As  if  he  (hould  fay, Is  it  not 
a  true  and  fufficient  Creed  or  profeffion  of 
Faith,  which  we  all  make  at  Baptifm  ?  Why 
eife  are  we  Baptized  ? 

Ninthly,  Tell  them,  that  Pallors  indeed 
rouft  know  more  than  all  the  people:  but  noC 
by  having  a  new  Creed  or  Scripture*  butac 
their  Ordination  they  are  to  give  an  account 
of a  fuller  HnderftandtHgthz  fame  Creed  tban 
the  people  rouit  do  :  And  the  Ordainers  muft 
examine  them  where  they  fufped  them  of  He* 
refie. 

Tenth!;, 


(1*0) 

TcntU],  Laftly,  Ten  them  that  no  more 
than  this  fehtcfffary,a^he*fo0r}  but  if  any 
after  prove  an  Heretick,  the  accufer  muft 
prove  it  by  him  j  and  w*  at  is  the  ufe  of 
Church  Difcipline*,  but  to  reform  him  or  cart: 
him  out?  And  Laws  will  >u  ferve  alone  in- 
ftead  of  judgement. 

If  they  fay  that  a  Herttick  may  do  much 
mifchief  before  it  can  be  pi-  /ed  againft  him, 
Tell  them, 

1 .  That  it  muft  not  be  Thoughts  but  Words 
that  do  mifchief  in  the  Church  ;  And  Words 
are  proveable. 

2.  That  fuch  proud  tyrannical  overdoers, 
have  bin  the  Churches  undoers  ?  And  it  is  they 
that  have  done  as  much  mifchief  as  mod  He- 
reticks :  And  that  they  thar  will  be  fo  much 
wifer  and  better  than  God ,  as  to  keep  out  ai  1 
Herefie  by  their  feif-conedted  ways,  are  the 
men  that  let  in  Herefie  and  Impiety,  and 
keep  or  caft  aut  faithful  Paftors ,  and  are  the 
Officers  and  Agents  of  the  grtat  Divider  and 
Deflroyer  of  the  Churches, 

Let  me  add,  Brethren,  we  that  have  lived  in 
an  Age,  when  the  Engines  of  Church*Dhi- 
fion  have  fo  fadly  profpered  *  and  have  Smar- 
ted thereby,  and  born  our  Teftimony  againft 
them,  are  doubly  obliged  to  leave  this  Tefti- 
monj  of  ours  to  Pofteritj  to  warn  them  ,  that 
if  poffible  they  may  efcape  the  fnare  $  And 
ihcrefore   TOPUBLISHTHIS  OUR 

JUDGE- 


<  in; 
JUDGEMENT,  and  OUR  OWN 
CONCORD   ON    THESE    PRI- 
MITIVE TERMS   to  all  the  World, 
as  againft  the  Romijh  tyrannical-uncertain- con- 
founding- Church- dividing  ,   and  ftilL  growing 
Articles  of  Faith  •,  Remetnbring  that  the  fame 
men  that  have  made  their  Religion  fo  big  as 
that  the  French  Impreffion  of  it  {viz,,  their 
Councils)  is  too  dear  for  the  purfe  of  a  Non- 
conformable  Minifter  -?  can  yet  tell  you  that 
even  Faith  in  Chrift  himfelf  (explicite)  is  not 
abfolutely  neccffary,  at  leaft  to  juftification, 
and  that  the  knowledge  even  of  much  of  the 
Law  of  nature  as  well  as  of  theGofpel  may  not 
be  abfolutely  neceflary,as  Stnft*  ClarayDeus- 
Nat-Grat.  Problem.  15.  and  16.  provethcut 
of  the  Schoolmen  at  large. 

18.  Afanage  your  Aiinift  trial cenverfe pru- 
dently and  fhufiy.  The  converfe  of  Minifters 
is  of  great  ufe,  and  therefore  frequent  Meet- 
ings needful  :  Ufe  them  to  thefe  ends, 

i.  To  advife  and  prevent  the  tffcds  of 
rafhnefs  or  imprudencie  in  Church  affairs : 
when  every  weak  man  hath  the  ufe  of  the  wif- 
dom  of  all  his  feniors,  it  is  fafc. 

2.  To  prcferve  Concord ^and  prevent  back- 
biting*,  animofities  and  faftions,  and  dilcor- 
dant  fcandalous  Angularities. 

3,  That  young  Minifters  may  be  Learners 
as  well  as  Teachers ,  and  may  grow  up  under 
the  Helpes  of  their  Seniors^ 


(112) 

[1  think  therefore  you  may  beft  thus  im- 
prove your  Converfe. 

1  Often  meet  for  faftingand  prayer,  to 
lament  our  former  and  later  fin  ,  and  to 
pray  for  the  Church  of  Chrift  and  for  all 
men  ^  for  the  King  and  all  in  Authority, 
that  we  may  live  a  quiet  and  peaceable  life, 
in  all  Godlinefs  and  honefty. 

//.  Set  up  conftant  regular  Difputations, 
(not  about  trifles,  nor  with  litigious  licen- 
cioufnefs )  But  about  the  grounds  of  our 
Religion,  efpecially  the  differences  between 
us  and  the  Socinians,  and  Papifts ;  And  this 
with  School  order,  under  Moderation.  Be- 
caufe, 

i.  Too  many  of  us  are  young  and  unftu- 
dyed  in  thefe  matters,  and  little  fit  to  deal 
with  the  Philiftins  Goiiahs,  and  have  great 
need  to  increafe  in  holy  defenfive  skill. 

2.  It  will  by  the  bounds  of  order  prevent 
ail  contentions  and  wrangling*,  and  medling 
with  Rulers  or  other  mens  matters,  and  all 
lofs  of  time  by  impertinent  difcourfe. 

III.  Counfel  and  Cencord  about  Church 
pra&ice  muft  take  up  the  reft,  of  your  time. 
And  thefe  three  ieafonably  ufed  Prayer,  Dif- 
f motion,  and  Counfel  will  conduce  much  to 
your  growth  and  ftrength. 

But  fee  that  Minifterial  Meetings  turn  not 
frem  Counfel  and  Agreement  to  Formality  and 
V juration  of  a  Ruling  power  over  one  an- 
other, 


v  us ; 

other,  and  fo  degenerate  not  into  Synodital 
Church-tyranny  *  much  lefsufurpe  the  Ma- 
gistrates right  :  For  Synod*  ill  managed 
f:ave  bfn  the   Fevers  and  Pleurifes  of  the 

Chirr  ches. 

1 9.  Therefore  btfitre  to  keep  out, both  the  7j- 
ram)  of  A<f ajar  Votes,  a^dof  the  frond  Ma- 
giftrrial  (elf-  arrogationi  of  any  individual s7t\±&t 
tbtnl^af!  ethers  m*ftft6op  to  them. 

1.  When  it  is  once  thought  that  the  Major 
WW  muft  carry  it,  an  Itl&clan  Synod*  will 
tyrannize-,  and  every  weak  felf>corfceited 
roan, that  hath  nothing  of  fence  to  fayagainft 
you,  will  charge  nine  Learned  judicious  grave 
Divines  with  Ikfoltnty,  if  they  will  not  be  go- 
verned by  ten  that  are  unlearned  or  injudici^ 
ous  fdfeiteemers. "  VoUing  is  not  for  govern- 
ment, but  for  Concord  V  And  not  to  be  ufedf 
(left  it  feent  an  appear&nce  or  introduction  of 
ufurparion,)  except  in  cafes  where  nicer  Con- 
Gfr/isyour  work. 

-  2.'  But  nothing  hath  more  plagued  the 
Church-than  the  Pride  and  Jrrogancy  of  fomd 
oPthft  ftiftoh ,  that  think  theyVe  wronged 
ifrfieymay  notRiile:  Think  not  that  this 
Sftfrit  isbnly  in  Papife  or  Diocefans  $  Pride 
isthebeartoftheold  man,  and  born  in  111  \ 
And  doleful  experience  teileth  how  itfurvi- 
veth  in  too  many  AntiprelaticaF  Ministers,  of 
bumbling  principles,  and  unhumbled  foiils/ 
Do  We  not  know  that  the  Pride  of  fame  among 


ourjiives,  uiac  muu  ve  siu,  ana  ao  au,  tin 
they  have  undone  ally  is  the  very  thing,  that 
hath  filenced  fo  many  Minifters,  and  brought 
us  to  the  ftate  that  we  are  now  in  ?  There 
are  fome  men  that  mud  only  be  heard  in  all 
debates,  and  feldom  hear ;  who  are  angry  if 
they  be  gainfaid  -,  who  think  that  nimble 
Tongues,  or  popular  Intereft,  or  grey  hairs, 
muft  pafs  for  uncontrolled  reafon.  And  they 
ftudy  to  make  parties,  and  fet  up  their  own 
Didates,  by  paffion  or  indirect  contrivan- 
ces :  They  can  feldom  debate  a  caufe ,  but 
their  fpleen  fwelleth  againft  thofe  that  fay 
not  as  they  fay,but  contradict  them,and  they 
fecretly  back-bite  them  to  blaft  their  names! 
They  note  thofe  that  follow  them,  and  thofe 
that  oppofe  them,  and  make  two  parties  of 
them,  And  all  comcth  from  the  common 
fin  of  man-kind,  An  nnkHmbled  overconfident 
under ftanding. 

Thefcmen  muft  firft  be  meekly  (fcfired  to 
be  quiet,  and  to  let  y  oube  quiet,  and  to  re- 
member that  Non-conformifts  are  not  for 
felf-obtruding  Prelacy  ^  And  that  they  are 
Brethren  and  not  Lords :  If  that  will  not  do> 
try  by  Prayer  to  prevail  with  God ,  for  more 
of  humllit j  and  peace  in  his  Minifters.  If  that 
will  not  do,  filently  bear  their  importunity 
with  neglcft  :  If  that  do  not,  M^ct  without 
them: 

3.  And 


3*  Ana  yec  mere  is  as  great  a  iiinciiicru* 
any  of  tbefe  to  be  avoided  alfo:  Which  is  the 
felf- conceit ednefs  and  Pride  of  the  younger 
and  the  more  injudicious  Sort  of  Minifteis, 
hindering  them  from  following  the  Counfels 
of  wifer  experienced  men.  For  thtfugh  we 
muft  have  no  arrogant  Lordly  Ufurpers  a- 
mongus,  yet  all  that  know  any  thing  muft 
confefi,  that  in  all  profeffions  wife  and**- 
imions  men  are  few  :  It  is  but  to  few  Divines 
thatGodgivech  clear  aid  accurate  judgmentsj 
And  undoubtedly  there  is  a  threefold  Supe- 
riority and  fubmiflion  of  divine  obliga- 
tion, 

I.  OfSubje&stomen  in  Office  ove:  them, 
i.  Of  the  younger  to  the  Elder. 
3.  Of  them  that  have  lefs  knowledge,  to 
them  that  have  more.    For  Office  and  Seniori- 
ty are  but  forma'ities,  did  thev  not  fnppofe  an 
•eximious  fitnefs  by  Superior  knowledge.     If 
therefore  God  endow  here  and  there  one 
man  with  extraordinary  judgement,  it  is 
the  wifdom  and  happinefs  of  the  times  to 
know  him,  and  to  kindle  their  Torches  ac 
his  fire  :  So  did  one  Luther,  one  Afelanch* 
thon%  one  Calvin  ,   ont  Ertfmus,  one  Jewel, 
JVhitakers ,  Reignolds,   Davenant^  &c.    profit 
many.    You  may  go  a  hundred  miles  amongft 
the  lefs  judicious  for t,  and  raifsof  that  light 
which  one  Amelia*    ^neCamere,  one  Strati* 
gifts,  one  le  BUnc^&c.   could  (hew  the 
H  %  world. 


wono.*     Ana  ll  is  me  riaguc  or  corrupted 
r&ttitt  that  Tgnorancc  keeptth  men  frorn  knott- 
ing it  felf,  and  not  one  of  a  multitude  (even 
of  Religious  men  J  who  are  injudicious  will 
believe  x\  at  they  are  injudicious  \  but  every 
man  is  fo  much  the  more  confident  that  he  is 
in  the  right  and  others  errc,by  how  much  the 
more  he  errelh  himfelf :  fo  cLat  few  ignorant 
Miniflers  are  t^clable,  but  think  that  they 
are  coo  wife  to  learn,  becaufe  by  office  they 
undertake  ts)tiach  :  But  through  Gods  mer- 
cy, rny  own  converfe  I  ath  bin  with  an  hum- 
ble fort  of  Minifters,  which  was  the  occafiorr 
of  our  unity  and  peace.    And  London  and  the 
Conntrey  have  many 'fach,  who!  hope  wifl 
bcable  to  refill  the  dividing  attempts  of  the 
felf  ignorant  ar.d  felf  conceited. 

20.  La'tiy-,  Spend  this  little  time  as  inths 
ycay  fofp.eidj  fujfirings  and  death  :  Your  pre- 
fent  Winters  day  is  ftu>rt.  Work  hard  ; 
Live  wifely  :  Suppofe  your  tryal  were  the 
next  year  :  B.have  your  feives  as  men  that 
ftar.d  in  profpeft  of  the  Giave  :  It  is  not  like- 
ly that  God  will  pafs  over  twenty  yars  wil- 
ful! divifion<,  wantonnefs,  proud  contention  j 
felf  diftraftion,  fcandals,  and  great  fins  fa 
little  repented  of/  that  men  cannot  endure 
tohtarthem  ramed,  with  fo  (hort  or  fmall 
a  fuflfcringas  we  have  undergone.  And  the 
fame  Spirit  yet  blinding  the  guilty5and  kecp- 
rg  fome  of  the  feparating  f  arty  to  tapeni- 


Oi7) 
tenrt,  and  working  dill  by  unlawful  means 
to  their  unlaw  ul  ends,  is  the  fearful  PiOgno- 
Ck,  that  more  of  the  old  effcft.are  to  be 
r  -oduced  by  the  old  uncured  caufe.     O  be 
nor  partakers  in  the  guilt  and  biindnefs  left 
you  partake  of  the  deftrudion,  and  demcnta- 
tion  be  the  fttre  pr-Qgnoflicl^  of  perdition,      BtlC 
O  Lord  fpare  thy  people,  and  blcfs  thine  In- 
heritance, and  lee  not  the  weakne!>or  will- 
fuinefsof  the  Paftors  orpeople,  deliver  it  up 
as  a  prey  to  the  D^ftroyer.    And  though  our 
folly  and  fcandal  have  m^Je  us  afcorn,  i*t 
it  not  turn  to  the  extirpation  of  true  Religion, 
and  to  the  further  advantage  of  Chnrch-t)- 
rannji  Ignorance*  or  Malignity  in  the  world. 
And  if  we  the  fooiifti  (inful  Paftors,  have  for- 
feited our  honour  and  ilaiion  in  thy  Church, 
let  not  the  Tyrannical  Foolifi  and  wicked^t 
thofe  that  (hall  be  wifer,   holjcr  and  more 
faithfully  and  fuccefful  I  y  diligent  fucceedus. 


CHA?. 


CHAP.    XII. 

An  humble  Petition  to  the  Confofimifis. 

Se%.  i.  T^Athers  and  Brethren,  though  I 
I  prefumed  to  counfel  the  Non- 
Conformifts  as  my  equals,  I  willprefuraeno 
higher  with  you,  than  to  lay  my  felf  at  your 
Feet,  and  humbly  a  fecond  time  to  become 
your  Petitioner  for  the  fouls  of  men,  for  the 
Gofpel,the  Churcb,and  the  intereft  of  Chriff. 
It  is  your  Office  to  be  Petitioners  to  mankind 
for  Chrift,  and  to  befeech  them  in  his  Read 
to  be  reconciled  to  God.  And  a  man  might 
hope  that  one  that  (hould  become  a  Peti- 
tioner to  you,  that  your  felves  would  not  dc- 
ftroy  that  Church,  might  find  acceptance  and 
prevail .  But  Satan  hath  got  fo  great  advan- 
tage, that  the  wifeft  man  living  is  uncapable 
of  fpeaking  rightly  to  you  without  offence. 
He  that  can  draw  men  into  great  difgraceful 
fin,  hath  thereby  raifed  a  Bulwark  to  defend 
his  work.  To  be  filent  and  comply  ,  is  to  be 
cruel  to  the  /inner  and  himfelf,  and  who  can 
do  it  that  believeth  Death  and  Judgement : 
To  caii  men  to  repentance,  is  utterly  to  lofe 
th.  m  t,y  implying  that  they  have  finned.  O 
Kttle  did  I  once  think  rhat  Repentance  had  bin 
fo  bard  a  work,  when  God  offereth  pardon 
pf  a:l  other  fins,  a^ainft  the  Law  of  innocen- 

fYt 


cjfcOn  fo  low  and  rcafonablc  a  condition. 

Jett.  2.  It  is  not  in  my  thoughts  to  con- 
found all  Conformifts,  as  if  there  were  no 
difference  among  your  felves.  I  know  that 
there  arc  many  forts  of  you  : 

1.  There  are  fome  Learned  real ous  high 
Conformifts,  who  think  they  have  done  good 
fcrvice  to  God,  by  all  that  they  have  done 
already  ;  and  no  doubt,  were  wife  enough 
to  forefee  what  they  were  bringing  to  pafr, 
and  are  not,  by  any  fobeijman,  to  be  accufed 
of  doing  either  they  knew  not  what  .or  what  they 
did  not  fuppofe  was  goody  and  would  countervail 
*/l  that  itfbould  coft  to  procure  it.  Their  work 
hath  profpered  ;  And  the  hinder  part  of  it 
is  yet  in  their  hands  •,  But  it  is  alfo  in  the 
hands  of  God.  To  thefe  Reverend  perfons, 
I  have  formerly  fpoken  to  their  great  of- 
fenfe. 

Seil.  3.  11.  And  I  would  there  were  no 
Minifters  fo  pittifully  dark,  and  young,  and 
raw,  or  fo  much  outof  love  and  relijb,  with 
things  Spiritual,  through  the  prevalency  of  a 
ftronger  appetite,  as  that  their  incapacity 
convinceth  me,  that  I  am  not  to  expeft 
much  regard  from  them,as  knowing  with  what 
ears  they  hear. 

Sett.  4   ///.  There  are  alfo  fome  called 

Latitudinarians,  who  love  not  Fopperyes  or 

violence,  but  are  men  of  Reafon  andfober  Con- 

verfationff  though  they  are  not  fo  tender  and 

H  4  fcrupulous 


(,  WO  ) 

fcrupulous  as  the  Non-conformifts,  but  can 
break  over  greater  rub?. 

tftrfih  5.  IV.  And  there  are  other  fiUij 
feber  mrvilling  Conformiftt,  who  by  the  bene- 
fit of ' fubferibing in  their  own  fence  .hzvz  ftrctcfct 
the<nfelves  to  do  what  tbey  have  done  \  \itho 
conform  on  the  terms  of  Mr.  Sprint',  'ftib- 
mitting  to  what  would  clfcbcoril  ,  oneiyto 
obtein  the  liberty  of  Preaching  \  (far  be  it 
from  me  to  put  in  any  leihfh  ends.)  Who  are 
unwittingly  Conformijisj  as  the  WefimwjUr  Af» 
femblywere*  chat  after  took  down  Prelacy. 

«$>#.  6.  To  al!  of  th-*rn  that  ,yet  have  tlrai 
to  hear,  I  humbly  prefent  thefe  following 
Requefts. 

I.  O  be  not  tea  angry  with  thofe  that  cenfon 
joh  as  finners.  Ideteit  rafh  cenforioufhefs ■• 
But  you  know  men  that  ditf.r  in  this  world, 
about  Speculative*,  n  ay  differ  about  matters 
of  Prtftice  too  :  The  J. -fuifts,Fry  $xs  and  Jan- 
fenifts  do  fo,  in  no:a/^'dr  little  things* 
And  in  fuch  a  diff:rence>one  party  muft  needs 
G.nfure  the  pra&ifersof  the  contrary,  a;  (in^ 
ners.  If  you  and  I  differed  about  Ufury, 
Stage  phyes ,  Gaming,  &c.  one  party  muft 
needs  think  that  the  other  fide  doliveinfin. 
And  who  liveth  and  fir.neth  not  ?  Either  the 
c:nfure  is  true  or  fa/fe:  \Urue,  fliould  you 
not  be  a*  thankful  as  to  one  that  would  fate 
you  from  the  P'ague?  Will  fen  do  you  lefs 
h\\it  than  confute  I  If  it  btfalfe,  Confider 

I.  You- 


(  121  ) 

i.  You  are  fallible  •  and  the  notfce  of  a 
foffible  ferniciens  danger,  ftiould  be  received 
with  felf-fufpicion  and  thanks 
2.  And  you  fltoutd  love  them  the  better  for 
their  averfnefs  to  fin,  chough  they  fliould  mi- 
itakc  the  matter  of  it.  A  proud  heart  faith 
fwellingly,/^  I  to  fa  accounted  herein  afinner* 
A  humble  perfon  will  fay  :  AUs^Iamtoo  likely 
to  mifhake  and  fin;  but  if  I  do  not  J  will  love, even 
a  mi  (taken  enemy  of  fin.  And  to  deal  faithfully 
with  you,  Hadiko(eho»i(t  Conformifts  of  my 
acquaintance,  bat  come  firft  to  the  ableft  dif- 
fenters,  and  impartially  heard  and  Weighed  all 
that  they  had  to  lay  ,  and  not  fecretly  flipe 
into  Conformity,  as  if  they  had  bin  afraid 
of  hearing  all,  I  (hould  have  bin  the  more  of- 
fended with  their  Cenfurers.  But  Go4 
hatcth  fin ,  and  fo  rauft  all  that  truely  Jove 
him.  And  they  are  our  beft  friends  that  do 
moft  to  prefervc  us  from  it.  And  they  arc 
our  greaceft  enemies,  that  would  flatter  us  in- 
to it.  To  Preach  againfty?«,  is  your  Mini- 
fterial  Office  :  And  if  any  man  thinks  that 
you  make  a  fetemn  Covenant  to  fin,  that  you 
may  have  leave  to  preach  againft  fin  -  Yea 
that  you  deliberately  commit  a  great  one,that 
you  may  have  leave  to  preach  againft  a  lefs  m 
other  men  ,  this  man  deferveth  to  be  heard 
though  he  miftake.  At  Death  arid  J  idgment, 
nothing  in  the  world  butfw  will  be  your  dan- 
ger ;  Unjuft  cenfures  will  be  none.    IF  we 

fay 


(122) 

fey  nothing  to  you  yet  its  eafie  to  gather  by 
thccoflly  terms  on  which  we  avoid  it ,  that 
wc  take  conformity  for  a  fin. 
And  if  any  of  the  people  carry  it  cenforioufly 
orcontemptuoufly  towards  you  (which  we 
abhor)  remember  that  yoa  take  them  for  we ak. 
and  fievijb  perfons:  And  honour  or  contempt 
is  valuable  according  to  the  quality  of  the  ho- 
rourer  or  contemner  :  You  take  your  follow- 
ers to  be  the  wifer  as  they  are  the  more :  And 
we  bear  their  cenfures  ofus%  and  much  more  ; 
And  cannot  you  bear  the  cenfures  of  a  few 
that  you  judge  weaker  ?  Yoij  will  proclaim 
the  Non-Conformifts  to  be  the  ftronger 
Chriftians,  if  they  can  bear  poverty  and  re- 
ftraints,  withthecenfureof  themoft,  when 
you  cannot  bear  the  cenfure  of  the  feweft, 
with  liberty  and  Minifterial  maintenance  and 
honour. 

II.  Bor  your  fouls  fake  and  for  the 
Churches  fake,  T*kf  heed  of  felfijbnefs  and 
Pride ',  left  it  fill  you  with  envy  againftyour  Bre- 
thren that  ferve  the  fame  Lord)  when  joh  thinly 
the j  any  way  diminifh  jour  refutation  and  ho- 
nour. I  would  have  others  keep  up  your  Re- 
putation to  rheutmofl;  which  in  the  name 
of  God,  I  charge  upon  them-  Yea,  and  in 
honour  to  prefer  you  :  But  if  you  think  they 
do  not,  remember  that  you  arc  the  Servants 
pf  a  Crucified  Chrifi ,  who  made  himfelfofno 
tepupathn,  but  too\upon  him  the  form  tfa  Ser- 
vant, 


vant,  and  yet  this  way  got  a  name  above  eve* 
ry  name.  As  fure  as  you  live,  contending 
for  honour,  is  one  of  the  rcadieft  ways  to 
loofe  it,  and  giving  it  to  ethers,  and  con- 
temning it!  your  fclves ,  is  one  of.  the  fureft 
ways  to  get  it,  It  is  its  motto,  ^luodfequitur 
fngio  j  cfHodfugit  ipfe  fecjuor. 

Self-efteem,  and  Pride  is  odious  in  all :  but  in 
a  Minifter  of  Chrift  more  odious,  than  in  any 
man  :  but  never  fo  odious  as  when  it  rifeth 
to  futh  malignity,  as  to  envy  or  hinder  the 
work  of  God,  becauft  another  moreefteem- 
ed  doth  it.  It  is  a  (in  that  I  am  readyer  to 
tremble  to  think  of,  than  further  to  re- 
prove. 

And  remember  what  work  it  hath  made  in 
the  Churches  of  Chrift  already.  Read  but 
what  EufebiuS)  Socrates,  Sozomeny  Evagrins, 
Ntcephorus,  Sec.  fay  of  thefewdsoftheold 
Biftiops :  Read  but  the  Afls  of  the  Councils 
ztEfhef.  i,&2.  of  Chalcedony  at  Ariminum, 
at  Sirmium^  at  Nice,  zd.&c.  and  if  hor- 
rour  and  fhame  do  not  overwhelm  you,  to 
think  what  Chriftian  Bifhops  did,  and  that 
fo  early  in  the  face  of  the  Heathens,  you  are 
not  men.  Read  but  how  Nazianzene  was 
ufed  at  Conftantinople ,  by  a  Synod  of  Ortho- 
dox Bifhops,  when  he  bad  overcome  the  Ar- 
ridns  :  Read  the  Controverfies  between  Ba- 
fil  and  AnthjmiHsyzwA  others  :  Read  the  dole- 
ful ftory  of  Theophilns  Alexandrinus,    and 

the 


the  Egjptidtt  Monks,  and  of  the  fame  Theo- 
ph'Uus  his  manner  of  dealing  a^ainft  the  Ori- 
genifis,  and  of  his  double  Lettered  Prefent 
which  be  fent  by  Ifidore  a  Prieft, to  the  Empe- 
rour  and  Maximus>  to  be  given  to  him  that 
got  the  better  :    Read  the  odious  ftory  of  the 
faid  Theophilus  and  Epiphanies  his  proceed- 
ings againft  Chryfoftome,  and  his  tje&ion  by 
a  Councel  of  Bilhops :  Read  the  proceedings 
of  Ithacins  and  Idacins  and  their  Synods  in 
Snip.  Severus:  There  is  no  end  of  inftan- 
ces :  Read  but  the  deftru&ion  of  the  many 
hundred  Brittifk  Monks  at  Bangor,  and  the 
great  fufpicions  that  Anguftine  taufed  it.! 
Look  but  on  the  face  of  the  Greek  and  La- 
tine  Churches  to  this  day,  from  the  begin- 
ing  and  caufe  of  their  divifions:  And  fee  what 
the  Lutherans  have  done  oft  times  againft  the 
Calvinifis  in  Saxony \  and  other  parts  of  Ger- 
many ,(&%  in  G*fp>  fencers  fuffmngs  for  one:  ) 
And  fee  what  the  Roman  Papacy  and  Clergy 
have  done  in  the  world  by  Lordly  Pride  and 
felfiflinefs  :    And  laftly,  See  what  hath  bin 
done  by  it  in  this  Land ;    and  at  lad  learn 
by  experience r  and  judg«  of  Church-mcns 
Pride  by  the  efFefts. 

Brethren,  what  harm  will  it  do  to  you,  if 
&Non  Conformift  preach  by  you?  if  many 
follow  him?  If  fomc  prefer  him  before  you? 
Do  not  others  prefer  you  before  him  ?  What 
if  his  followers  think  Conformity  to  be  fin  ? 


.Do  not  you  ana  yours  tnuiKiootouriNonw 
Conformity?  It  is  not  your  felves  that  yoiv 
preach  for,  but  the  peoples  Souls :  And  why 
may  noc  Cbrifts  Gofpel  profit  them  from  an- 
other as  well  as  from  you  ?  Nature  teacheth 
men  to  rclifh  their  own  food,  and  partly  to 
feel  what  doth  them  good?  Clemens  Alex* 
and.  Strom,  i .  giveth  it  as  the  reafon  why  tire 
Church  (thev, not  now)  left  it  to  every  Com- 
municant at  the  Sacrament,  to  T*kf  their  oven 
fart,  Becatifeman  having  free  will,  (hall  be 
thechoofer,  or  refufer  of  his  own  good.     If 
they  choofe  a  worfe  Teacher  than  you,  it  ia 
not  )oh  but  the)  that  are  the  ioofers :  If  they 
choofe  abetter,  you  have  your  end ,  if  you 
are  Chriftians?  If  you  preach  not  fow ellai 
another,  you  are  not  fit  to  be  Minifters  of 
Cbrift,  if  you  be  not  glad  that  another  doth 
better,  and  is  a  blefling  to  the  Flock.      II 
you  preach  better ,  its  two  to  one  but  good- 
nefs  will  have  an  infuparable  attiaftion  :  Of 
if  miitake  make  them  more  capable  of  good 
from  another  than  from  you,  (houid  you  not 
defire  that  they  might  have  it  ?  Will  you  fay, 
It  is  their  partial  humour  ?  I  have  heard  ma- 
ny Minifters  fay  fo,  thax  had  reafoa  to  have 
faid,  It  is  ray  unskiifulnefs  ordnlnefs  :  But 
fuppofe  it  befo*  APhyfician  will  let  his  pa- 
tient take  his  Medicioe  from  one  mans  hand, 
if  hercfufe  it  from  another.    The  Father  will 

ns? !?!  $h?  Ir^y  fa5.!fb  if  k?  ?*!*  u^e  n<* 


meat  rrom  mm,  out  rrom  cne  mocncr.  if 
the  people  had  no  faults  or  weakneffes,  what 
need  were  there  of  joh  or  other  Minifters. 

I  am  as  apt  to  fpeak  fharply  agalnft  the 
humours  and  weaknefs  of  Religious  people,as 
moft  that  a/e  not  envious  and  malignant.  But 
I  rauft  give  them  this  Teftimony,that  though 
many  of  them  cannot  well  judge  of  judicionf- 
nefs  ii\  their  Teachers,  yet  moft  of  them  love 
a  fcrietis  Preacher  and  a  Godly  Liver  5  And 
few  of  them  diftaft  either  Prelates  or  Confor- 
mists, if  they  p reach  ferioftflji  and  live  Holi- 
Ij.  But  when  in  all  the  Countreys  they  fee 
fuch  Preachers  and  Livers  chofen  outfory?- 
lencingj  all  the  world  cannot  keep  them  from 
d ifl iking  fuch  Bifhops  as  (hall  do  thus .  I  am 
moft  confident  for  thofe  of  my  old  acquain- 
tance ,  that  if  they  had  feen  Bifhops  (after 
their  long  difacquaintance  with  them)  to 
have  Preached  and  Prayed  in  a  found  and  fe* 
rious  Holy  manner ,  and  fet  themfelve*  to 
promote  the  labours  of  Godly  Preachers,and 
to  encourage  piety  in  the  people  and  reprefs 
iniquity ,  they  would  generally  have  loved 
and  honoured  them,  without  refpeft  to  Pres- 
bytery or  Independency  :  It  is  Godlinefs 
that  Godly  people  care  for.  But  fincc  I  and 
abundance  about  us  wereejt&ed,  andfince 
many  of  themfelvcs  have  bin  laid  in  Goals,it 
is  no  more  in  my  power  to  make  them  love 

fuch 


lucn  DiinopS)  man  to  rr.ast  mem  love  mo 
Goal  it  felf. 

Yea  further,  Brethren,  what  if  the  Non- 
Conformable  Minifter  do  give  the  Sacrament 
tofome,  as  you  do  to  others  ?  What  if  they 
think  their  way  beft,  as  you  think  yours? 
What  if  they  call  themfelves  a  Church  and 
excrcife  Difcipline ,  (which  without  need  I 
would  not  have  them  do,)  What  harm  will 
this  do  to  you  or  others  ?  If  it  do  them  harm, 
let  them  thank  themfelves :  But  to  you  it  can 
do  none,  unlefs  the  unchriftian  Rn  of  pride 
and  envy  caufe  it :  or  unlefs  by  reproaches  and 
contentioufnefs  they  hinder  the  fuccefs  of  your 
labours  •,  which  is  another  thing.  I  confeft 
I  have  ever  bin  jealous  of  fucb  Arbitrary 
Churches,  where  there  ii  room  for  all  in  one 
Church,  left  they  fhould  turn  Anti-Churches 
and  Theatres  of  emulati6n  and  contention  ; 
(which  I  charge  all  confcionable  perfons  to 
abhor :  )  But  all  this  may  be  avoided  at 
cheaper  rates,  than  (ilencing  fo  many  labori- 
ous Mintflers,or  excommunicating  all  the  peo- 
ple that  are  Non-conformifts. 

///.  foyn  lovingly  with  jour  Brethren  ,  as 
Servants  of  one  Lord  ,  to  promote  oneworl^ 
Look  not  ftrange  at  them,  if  they  defire  your 
friendfliip  ;  Yea,  if  any  of  them  provocenfo- 
rious  and  pievifti,  if  you  are  the  more  pa- 
tient, condefcending^nd  forward  to  love  and 
unity)  and  to  further  the  peoples  good>I  (hall 

take 


take  you  for  better  men  than  them  <  And  fa 
will  all  that  judge  by  the  fruits  of  the  Spirit 
Try  this  way  inftead  of  wrath,  andlcfere 
undertake  that  ic  (hall  more  maintain  your 
honour  j  with  your  peace  of  Confcience. 

Brethren,  our  great  account  is  near  :  The 
Judge  is  at  the  door  :  It  will  be  then  convfbr* 
table  to  give  a  true  account  of  Minifferial  fi* 
delity,and  hear.  Well  done  good  and  faithful 
fervant-  rather  than  to  hear,  We  have  beaten 
our  fellow  Servants,  or  unfaithfully  kept  the 
Key  of  knowledge.  The  fouls  of  your  charge 
are  *»*#/  and  precious  :  It  is-a  hard  and  great 
work  to  cure  one  :  to  make  one  Ignorant  per* 
fon  underAand,  one  proud  ptrfon  humble* 
one  infidel  to  believe,  one  worldling  to  be- 
come Heavenly,  or  one  fenfualift  to  be  a  mor- 
tified Saint :  What  help  then  do  you  need  ; 
what  labour  is  requifite,  to  bring  a  Parifti  o£ 
many  hundred  or  thoufand  perfons  to  this 
change!  A>  aur  weaknefs  tnuft  make  us  all 
cry  cut,  Who  u  fufficient  for  theft  things^  fo 
when  one  man  hath  ten  memwork  to  do ,  he 
may  well  fay,  He  is  inefficient  i  Irtthefirfti 
three  Centuries,  when  one  Congregation 
had  a  Bifhop  with  a  Colledge  or  Company 
of  fellow  PrcvbyterSjthey  were  not  too  many* 
though  one  onely  could  preach  at  once.  I1 
fpeak  not  uncertainties  *  We  have  tryedthe 
PaJtoral  work  •,  and  know  by  experience  that 
a  Parifta  of  a  thoufand  (much  more  of  many 

the*- 


thbufond)  families ,  hath  work  enough  for 
fnany  the  raoft  able  and  diligent  Minifters 
inche  Land  :  Yea;aParifh  of  an  hundred  Fa* 
milieu  needeth  more  help  than  any  one  Mi- 
nifteriiable  to  afford  them  :  Try  thtra  all 
by  perfonal  conference  houfc  by  houfe  as  we 
have  done,  anu  judge.  Would  you  then  have 
the  pebple  taught,  reformed  andfaved,  or 
not  ?  If  yea,  Would  you  not  have  neceffary 
help  to  do  it?  I  cannot  believe  that  roan  to 
know  rtiiriy  what  it  is  to  be  a  Minifter  or  a 
ChrifHari,  that  perceiveth  not  a  neceffity  of 
help  if  be  can  have  it :  And  if  you  bad  con- 
verted all  now  living,  thofc  that  are  born 
ntxtwill  haveneedof  as  much  labour  as  their 
Parients  :  For  ignoring  fenfudlit]  and  pride 
will  be  born  with  them. 

Think  God  therefore  that  you  may  hav* 
help;  and  take  it,  whether  you  meet  in  on*  of 
tm  AflfembHcs  :  Help  your  tolerated  Bre- 
thren in  their  work,  as  thofe  that  more  de- 
fire  thegood  of  the  peoples  fouls  than  they. 
Coxifult  together  for  the  removing  of  impe- 
diments, and  for  the  (lengthening  of  each 
other.  And  if  any  fadious,  or  froward  Non- 
conformift  ihould  happen  to  be  your  Neigh- 
bour, go  to  him,  and  by  love  and  familiarity 
fcek  to  win  and  cure  him  ^  and  you  will  win 
the  hearts  of  all  good  people.  And  if  he  be 
really  turbnlent,  and  do  more  harm  in  the 
place  than  good,  lam  perfwadedthe  reft  of 


the  Nonconformifts  will  rebuke  him>anddif- 
own  him.     Iadd> 

IV.  If  any  difference  between  you  cannot  be 
compofed,  in  fie  ad  of  troubling  the  people  about 
ftf  quietly  refer  it  to  fome  indifferent  Arbitra- 
tors.  Is  there  not  a  wife  man  aijiong  you  ? 
Muft  Abrahams  and  Lots  Servants,  feparate 
them  for  a  Well  I  Mult  Paul  and  Barnaba: 
part  for  different  cenfures  of  another  mans 
omiffion?  Shall  Chriftians,  Proteftants,  Mi- 
nifies, the  Teachers  of  Love,  and  Concord 
and  Patience,  be  fo  wea^  fo  felfifc  fo  bad+ 
fuch  contradiders  of  their  daily  Do&rine? 
as  not  to  be  able  to  carry  on  Chrifts  work  in 
peace;  nor  to  make  an  amicable  compofurc 
of  their  differences  ?  If  you  arc  Chriftians 
indeed,  the  difference  is  not  who  fliall  have 
the  mod  followers,  applaufe  or  honour  0bxxt  who 
feiveth  God  and  faveth  fouls ,  in  the  right 
and  truceffeftual  way?  And  may  not  prayer 
and  confutation  reconcile  fuch  a controver- 
fie?  For  my  own  part  I  am  confeious  of 
pride  and  (elffhnefs  •,  Yet  I  can  confidently 
fay,  that  when  I  had  a  Pafloral  charge,where 
I  reeded  many  Affiftants ,  if  I  had  known 
where  that  man  lived  whom  the  people  would 
have  loved,  honoured  and  profited  by,  more 
than  my  felf,  I  would  have  rid  night  and  day 
to  get  him  to  be  the  man  :  And  when  I  have 
beard  my  Neighbour  Minifters  that  were 
younger  men  (I  can  fcarce  forbear  naming 

themj 


(MO 

them)  preach  much  moreaffe&ioriatelyand 
profitably  than  my  felf,|I  have  fate  under 
them  with  tears  of  joy.  But  alas,  What  hath 
*en  years  filencc  of  fnch  men  ,  deprived  the 
fouls  of  the  poor  people  of !  I  never  thought 
it  meet  with  Saint  Francis  and  the  Fryers,  to 
abafemy  felf  by  going  naked,  or  by,  taking 
on  me  to  be  an  Awfe,  or  by  filthinefs.or  ridi- 
culous behaviour ;  A*  if  Heaven  and  a  Swine- 
fty  were  moft  like  :  ($ee  Foulis  hisHiftory 
of  Popery. )  But  I  have  thought  it  my  duty  to 
cad  away  deliberately  and  knowingly  much 
of  my  Reputation,  even  with  Religious  peo- 
ple ,  by  the  difcharge  of  fuch  duty  as  I 
knew  would  do  it  -y  Believing  that  Reputa- 
tion is  one  thing  to  be  refolutely  denyed  for 
Chrift,  and  that  he  that  faveth  his  honour 
(hall  lofc  it ,  and  he  that  lofeth  it  for  Chrift 
(hall  have  everlafting  honour. 

Brethren,  there  is  no  great  matters  to  be 
done  in  the  Church  of  Cteift  in  the  midft  of 
fo  many  corruptions  and  temptation?,  with- 
out confirmed  Reflation;  RefolveC  >  bt  wholly 
the  fervants  of  thrift,  and  to  feek  mens 
Salvation,  and  to  take  no  thought  for  your 
carnal  intereft  and  honour ;  And  then  ths 
God  whom  you  fcrve  will  rate  care  of  it. 
Think  not  that  other  mens  felfifhnefi  or  f ro- 
wardnefs  is  an  excufe  to  yours :  Who  know- 
eth  man,  and  knoweth  not  that  pride  and 
felfijbnefs  is  as  common  as  fin,  that  is ,  I*  the 
I  z  kit- 


laflrdying heart ofall our  corruption?  Will 
you  exped  none  of  it  in  others,  when  you 
know  (if  you  know  your  felves)  that  you 
bavc  much  of  it  in  your  felves  ? 

Plain-dealing  is  not  the  Sign  of  enmity  but 
love.  Imuft  tell  you,  that  wc  cannot  but 
think  that  you  need  Repentance  ,  great  Re- 
pentance, for  finning  more  (and  that  by  /w£- 
iic\  j  dfliberatc  ,  chofen  ,  covenanttd ,  Mini- 
fterialfirj)  frotefling  againft  Repentance  )in 
the  day  when  Judgements  calkd  us  all  to  re- 
new our  Repentance  for  our  foi  roer  fins.  But 
yet  we  fufpeft  our  own  underftandings :  We 
know  what  different  apprehenfions  of  thing* 
good  men  may  have  :  We  know  that  we  are 
great  finners  our  felves :  We  take  not  all  this 
to  warrant  our  cenforious  reparations  from 
you.  But  we  befcech  you  be  not  too  angry 
with  us,  for  differencing  between  good  and 
evil,  between  him  than  fweareth,  and  him 
thatfeareth  aa  Oath.  As  long  as  we  do  it 
to  the  cod  and  fuff.ring  of  our  own  flefh* 
which  difputtth  in  i\$  more  cunningly  and 
ftrongly  for  Conformity-,- then  all  theZ>#- 
?eU,  the  JFullwoods,  the  StiUmans,&c.  in 
England.  We  have  naturally  no  more  love 
to  poverty,  to  fcorn,  to  a  prifon,  than  you 
have:  And  why  may  not  thofe  chat  do  no- 
thing el fe  almoft  fay  ,  that  its  like  weftudy 
co  know  the  truth,  as  hard  as  any  of  you  all  ? 
And  the  love  of  beggery,  fcomand imprifon- 

raerit* 


mentis  nor  likely  much  to  byas  us7  And 
if  you  think  that  our  honour  with  our  party 
doth  it,  you  mutt  needs  think  that  we  (who 
fo  fliarply  reprove  tbem,)do  think  very  high- 
ly of  that  poor  defpifed  party,  when  we  pre- 
fer their  opinions,  not  onely  before  your 
Afagnat-es  &  Plures  ,  but  alfo  before  our 
Livelihoods,  Liberties  and  Lives.  Woe  to 
the  Hypocrite  that  hath  no  better  a  re- 
ward ! 

And  why  fliould  we  do  it  ?  Were  we  not 
as  capable  of  tht  more  Noble and  General  ap- 
plaufe  as  you,  if  we  could  have  taken  your 
way  ? 

As  we  are  none  of  your  Judges  then  ,  Be 
you  none  of  ours ,  but  let  us  with  Refolved 
unity  (though  not  uniformity)  ferve  that  one 
God  whom  we  are  all  devoid  to.  Remem- 
ber that  to  Preach  Leve  is  your  Minifterial 
work-  AndcopraAce  it  is  your  Chriftian 
work.  Refolve  as  much  to  craimain  Chri- 
ftian Lcve  as  inviolate,  even  to  Martyrdom, 
as  the  Martyrs  did  to  ffiaintain  the  Chriftian 
Faith.  Remember  Ridley  and  Hooper;  You 
may  come  to  Ridley\  Confeflions  ere  you  die. 
We  purpofe  not  tollnminifter  you  fomuch 
a  Gildas  did  his  Brittains ,  nor  to  feparate 
from  you  fo  much  zsMartindid  to  the  death, 
from  all  the  Neighbour  Synods  and  Bifhops, 
for  a  far  letter  caufe  than  the  filencing  of 
eighteen  hundred  Minifters.  We  take  not 
I  3  you 


OH) 

you  whom  I  now  write  to ,  to  be  conferring 
to  this  work.     (Though  your  filenceand  non- 
refiftancey  hath  bred  fuch  thoughts  of  you  in 
people,  a*  we  would  fain  have  you  cure  by 
the  contrary  means.)     We  are  for  peace  : 
Be  not  you  againft  it :  But  we  cannot  buy  it, 
by  deferring  the  Miniftry  ,  to  which  we  were 
confecrated  and  devoted,  nor  by  negleding 
lb  many  thoufand  miferable  fouls.    Bring 
things  in  England  once  to  that  pafs,  that  re- 
ally our  labour  may  be  unneceffary,  in  the 
judgement  of  thofe  that  are  not  Infidels,  Igno- 
rantsy  or  Malignant  enemies  of  a  holy  life, 
and  we  will  prefently  gratifie  all  that  defire 
our  filence,  or  our  banifhment ,  and  will  not 
trouble  men  with  needlefs  work. 

Thus,  Brethren,  you  fee,  I  have  prefumed 
no  higher  than  to  Petition  you  j  And  that 
not  to  your  coft  or  detriment  j  nor  for  our 
prcferment,wealth  op  eafe  :  We  aske  you  not 
for  food  or  ray  men  t  ^  We  crave  from  you 
none  of  your  Dignities,nor  Eftates :  Though 
when  I  find  this  Author  diffwadingusfrom 
our  Miniftry,  becaufe  the  people  are  poor,  I 
think  that  reafon  might  almoft  as  aptly  have 
ferved  toperfwadeus  to  live  no  longer  ,  be- 
caufe the  world  is  too  poor  to  keep  us ;  We 
do  but  eat  if  we  preach,  and  fo  we  muft  if  we 
{Jo  not :  And  I  think  it  had  favoured  of  no 
excefs  of  Charity  and  Minifterial  ingenuity, 
|f  he  had  rather  faid  *  Brethren,  joh  muftper- 

fernt 


('35J 

form  jour  undertaken  Miniftrj,  and  we  and  the 
-peoples  foals  have  need  of  all  jour  help  ;  And 
the  maintenance  is  given  fort  he  work^t  There- 
fore you  that  worl^with  us,  Jball  hive  part  of 
the  Church  maintenance  with  us,  at  leafi  a  fifth 
part,  as  was  allowed  to  the  e)e&ed  by  the  Par- 
liament, becaufe  the  people  cannot  maim ain  you, 
and  A  is  hard  toferve  God  without  anxiety  {while 
jour  families  are  in  want.  This  Lad  better 
befeemed  our  Brethren  -y  but  we  crave  aid 
expeS  no  fuch  thing  from  you  5  but  only  pa- 
tiently to  fuflfcr  us  to  live  and  labour  by  you, 
and  let  God  provide  for  us  as  he  pleafe. 

And  if  we  tad  expeded  that  heretofore  you 
had  Petitioned  on  Rulers,  for  the  liberty 
of  our  Miniftry,  it  had  binnounrcafonable 
txpe&ation.  Ail  kn:w  that  our  own  Petiti- 
ons had  no  hope  :  Mimfters  (hould  of  all 
men  have  bin  mod  fenfibje  of  the  Churches 
breaches,  lofs  and  danger,  and  moft  compaf- 
fionate  of  the  peoples  fouls :  If  you  had  but 
humbly  acquainted  our  Rulers,  That  all  our 
labours  conjoyned  are  too  little  $  that  you 
needed  our  help,  and  the  ignorant  our  teach- 
ing •  That  your  own  Judgement  was,that  our 
Miniftry  was  more  neceffary  than  our  per^ 
fonal  Conformity, 

1.  You  know  not  but  you  might  have  bin 

heard  :    For  no  doubt  our  Rulers  thought 

they  did  that  which  the  Reverend  Charch- 

I  4  men 


men  tlid  advife  or  thinkbeft  :I  hope  you  do  not 
think  that  our  civil  Rulers  would  have  done 
all  that  they  have  done  againft  us,  if  it  had 
bin  againft  the  Bifliops  and  conformable  Cler- 
gies judgment  and  advife :  Civil  Governours 
are  never  fo  cruel  in  matters  of  Religion,  as 
the  Ruling  and  exafperated  Clergy  arenas  the 
Hiftories  of  all  ages  tcftifie.  ° 

2.  Or  at  lcaft  you  might  have  had  the 
greater  peace  of  Confcience,  in  all  the  confu- 
fions  that  have  followed,  and  fatd,  It  is  mt 
long  fif  us. 

And  you  would  have  acquitted  your  felves  in 
the  judgement  of  all  your  hearers ,  and  they 
would  have  bin  the  lefs  prejudiced  againft 
your  Miniftry. 

Had  you  Petitioned  and  prevailed  but  for 
thefe  two  things  ,  you  had  healed  ail  our 
breaches, 

Firfi,  That  the  door  of  enterance  might  not 
have  bin  barred  by  any  other  fubferiptions, 
proftffions  or  Oaths,  than  what  were  ufed  in 
the  Churches  of  Chrift ,  till  the  exaltation  of 
the  Papacy  (for  6oo.years,)befides  the  Oaths 
of  Allegeance  and  fupremacy,  andthefub- 
fcribing  the  Doftrineofthe  Church  of  Eng- 
land, in  the  39.  Articles ,  according  to  tEo 
I  ith.  of  Queen  Elizabeth. 

Secondly ,  That  thofe  (fo  fubferibing)  tyho 
dare  not  ufe  the  Liturgy  and  Cerecaonies* 

might 


night  have  leave  to  preach  la  the  Qmrcbei 
vhich  ufe  them,  under  Lavs  which  (hall  re* 
drain  them  from  all  unpcaceable  oppofition 
fo  what  they  dare  not  ufe,  or  to  the  Gove  rv 
raent  of  the  Church.  And  having  raenti^ntfi 
this,  What  if  I  added  yet  this  claafe  to  ray 
prefent  Petition  to  you  ? 

V.  That  yon  will  yet  Petition  for  us>  or  ra- 
ther for  the  Church  of  Chrifi ,  that  upon  the 
for ef aid  terms  we  may  be,  ifpojfible*  taken  in  to 
the  eftablijbed  Mwftrj  ,  If  not<>  jet  tolerated,  as 
Letturers  under  youinfuch  Churches,  when 
the  Mimfiers  defire  us  ,  mt  taking  any  of  their 
maintenance  from  them*  but  t rafting  God  for  our 
daily  bread. 

By  thU  means  you  (hall  have  no  need  to 
fear  our  injuring  of  your  weaich  or  reputati- 
on }  Nor  the  (lengthening  of  the  Papifls  by 
the  weakening  of  Proteftancsthrough  our  own 
divifions;  (Onely  let  not  the  people  who 
fcruplc  Conformity ,  be  therefore  denyed 
Church- Communion  and  Sacraments.) 

And  now  as  God  will  judge ,  fo  let  the 
world  judge,&  let  pofterity  judge  whether  we 
are  unworthy  in  coraparifun  of  the  prefent 
Minifters  of  England  ,  to  be  permitted  to 
preach  ChriiU  Gofpel  on  thefe  felf-denying 
and  felf-abafing  terms  •  And  whether  they 
that  cry  out  of  the  danger  of  Popery,  Infide- 
lity, Profancnefs  and  Herefies*  and  yet  had 

father 


(W) 

rather  let  them  in  all,than  give  us  leave  to  «- 
ercife  that  Miniftry  to  which  we  were  confe- 
crated,  in  poverty  and  fubje&ion  ;  and  while 
they  cry  out  of  Divifions,  will  not  lay  by 
the  Dividing- engines  ;  (hould  rather  accufe  us 
or  the-mfelves,if  the  evils  overwhelm  us,which 
they  fecm  to  fear  ? 

It  is  not  pleafnre*  profit  or  worldlj  prefer- 
ments, that  w*  contend  for  :  We  would  do 
no  man  hurt  or  wrong  :  If  our  lovers  of 
Church-power  do  think  us  intolerable,  be- 
caufe  we  obey  them  not  as  fully  as  they  defire, 
we  profefs  before  God  and  Man,  that  ir  is  not 
becaufe  we  would  not  be  fubjedt  and  obedient 
to  any,  as  far  as  will  ftand  with  our  obedience 
to  God,  but  only  becaufe  we  dare  not,  we  wi/l 
not  do  that  which  we  believe  that  God  for- 
bidcth  us:  And  if  we  err e,  it  is  not  for  want  of 
ftudying,  perhaps  as  hard  and  impartially  as 
they,  to  know  the  truth  :  And  to  him  that 
thinketh  he  doth  evil  it  is  fin.  It  is  fin,and  no 
fraall  or  tolerable  fin  ,  which  our  confeiences 
fear,  in  our  forbearing  fubferiptions  and 
Conformity  :  If  they  alfo  take  it  to  be  a  fin 
to  fuflfer  us  to  preach  the  Gofpel,  and  a.  grea- 
ter fin,  than  to  fuffer  the  inundation  of  Infi- 
delity, Popery  and  the  reft  which  they  fay  is 
ready  to  break  in  upon  us ,  And  if  they  think 
our  not  Subfcribing,  Swearing,  e£r.  to  be  in 
us  (o  great  a  fin,  that  the  punifhroent  laid  en 

Swearers, 


Cup) 

Swearers  *  Drunkards ,  or  fornicators]  will 
not  ferve  turn  to  avenge  it  on  Our  felves,  nor 
any  other  of  our  perfo^al  fufferings,unlefs  the 
fouls  of  many  thoufands,  and  the  Proteflant 
Religion,  and  our  Pofterity  alfo  fuffer  for  it, 
the  Judgments  of  God  muft  be  endured .  But 
remember  no*.  Lord  our  offences,  nor  the  of- 
fences of  our  Forgathers,  neither  take  thou 
vengeance  of  our  lins :  Spare  us  good  Lord  ; 
Spare  thy  people  whom  thou  halt  redeemed 
with  thy  mofl  precious  blood,  and  be  not 
angry  with  us  for  ever.  And  haften  O  Lord 
Jefus  thy  more  Righteous  Judgement. 


FINIS. 


.g  R-A  ATA. 

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p,  |o§,  1.  21.  r.  aadtefto^nee  all. 


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