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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 7:54am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
any help/comments would be appreciated.
(and yes, i know i should have a bigger hard drive on my laptop than 120 gigs - hindsight is 20/20)
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Poster: | Earl B. Powell | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 8:04am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
Well, it starts with no room on the laptop, then they start stealing the covers in the middle of the night. Next thing you know, they're burning the bacon...in more ways than one. Sooner or later you'll be trading sports for reality TV and daytime dramas. Then comes the minivan.
You don't have these kind of issues with cows.
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 8:19am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
;)
(although, the wife is a huge Big Brother fan - so i am totally FUCKED tonite - and not in good way)
mmmmooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Poster: | Earl B. Powell | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 8:25am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
This is probably the source of your issue, but I haven't found a way to resolve it for my own purposes.
Fortunately, I dont think it applies to my FLAC files which seem to stay in order since i never create playlists within Winamp. Only use it to burn.
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Poster: | spacedface | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 8:51am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
Have you tried SharePod or similar utilities? You can at least make a backup of your iPod on another computer -- because until you get the hang of it having an exact copy of the files is handy.
If you use SharePod you need to work with the built-in playlist file, which is like the desktop databse that the iPod "Finder" organizes with. You have to be careful with syncing in iTunes too, again manage your own music. I only use Sharepod for the backup and use a custom playlist in iTunes -- shuffle things in & out on that playlist then sync manually.
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 9:27am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
itunes certainly doesnt seem to like being two or three places at once.
i am definitely going to take your suggestion though and make use of/play with that application (after a totally backing the files up, of course)
thanks again :)
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Poster: | spacedface | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 10:26pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
Any iTunes install just refers to what you give it, and you can use any playlist even if the files are not present, or you can throw files from peripheral devices onto a local playlist.
I only use Sharepod for downloading audio off an iPod, because I like iTunes features -- except I don't want it managing my life based on they made deals with Hollywood. If it's my music, I can use it wherever I want!
If you want to backup your music, you might also use 3-4 data DVDs and/or a hard drive that iTunes and WiMP don't know about.
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Poster: | Mandojammer | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 9:47am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
Here's my $.02, maybe $11,678.92 with the hyperinflation that the stimulus plan(s) seem destined to cause.
But I digress.......
Take control, put all of your music files in one folder with sub-folders for each artist or band.
DO NOT LET iTUNES DO THIS FOR YOU!!!.
I have all of my music on two external 2 TB hard drives, with each backed up to the other.
Select one hard drive to be the "source" folder location for your iTunes library. Go into iTunes, selct 'File', "Add Folder" then navigate to the hard drive of your choice, highlight the folders you want imported and there you have it. Be careful with mass folder adds since some of the data iTunes uses to sort and file in the library is missing from the song(s). It's best to check each folder's contents' properties to make sure each file (song) has the same filing properties. Right click on the file, select 'Properties', select 'Summary' and edit as needed.
My file convention is:
Artist: Grateful Dead
Album Title: GD - 1969-42-22 The Ark (SBD - Miller 88466), Boston, MA
This works for me, but there are other filing conventions that will work. You know, the whole Baskin-Robbins 31 thingie.
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 10:20am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
Hey, I hope your physical rehabilitation is going well my friend. Hopefully the pain has subsided some. At least enough to allow you to enjoy the painkillers without wasting them entirely on the pain itself ;)
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Poster: | jackstraw86 | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 10:53am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
iTunes = :(
Sharepod = :))))
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 11:54am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
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Poster: | spacedface | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 10:35pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
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Poster: | clashcity | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 9:14am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
Usually these applications are somewhat limited in what they enable you do, or try to make you do it their way.
So why not cut out the middle man and just do a search for *.mp3 and/or *.m4a (iTunes extension when it converts files I reckon) and then just copy those files somewhere else.
I'll assume you are using Windows XP:
Start > Search
in the field for "All or Part of the file name:" enter *.mp3
it will find all mp3 files on the computer.
CTRL+A to Select All
CTRL+C to Copy
Browse to new location/folder
CTRL+V to Paste
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 9:25am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
(and yes, i am definitely computer stupid)
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Poster: | clashcity | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 9:32am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
In that same line of thinking you'd setup your rip, etc setting to always put the files on the external.
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 10:14am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
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Poster: | fenario80 | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 4:54pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
I tried really hard to find the library path in itunes and just couldn't find it - instead I had to delete everything and start over from scratch.
itunes definitely won't follow if you move files from place to place: you will have to delete the originals from itunes and then add them again from the new location. It's a pain in the ass, but probably worth it if you want to know where everything is. The guy who said never ever let itunes manage the music is dead on - you should always select the manual management option
It should be mentioned in this thread somewhere that, even though I am doing the same thing that several of you are - that is, keeping all of my music on the external hard drive and pointing itunes at it - I'm pretty sure that this is not recommended by your drive manufacturer. The external drive is really more for "cold storage" and too much activity may be too much for it.
Disclaimer: I am not a tech guy, so take that for what it's worth, but I'm pretty sure that itunes killed my first external drive by overworking it ...
I just ordered a second 1T MyBook so I can back up the first one - I used to do it on DVD but realized that at this point I would need 150+ DVD's to back up everything.
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Jul 10, 2009 5:48am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
your second point just may be worth some serious consideration though. considering i have a lot of "irreplaceable stuff" on all my externals, and I update my ipod many times every couple of weeks, i DO NOT want extra stress placed on those said harddrives. good point Fernario!! discretion is the better part of valor. thanks
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 9:30am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
and you are right - Apple wants things done THEIR way or no way ;) worth the hassle though for a walk around music player that holds 120 gigs.
(using Vista, not XP - maybe THAT is part of the issue - lol)
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Poster: | William Tell | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 9:53am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
So, can't help with the synch aspect, but having to access and futz with three diff ipod devices thru one laptop, I have found the "manual" approach in which you don't let the system "do anything" works well. I go into the folders and find the "library" and BU that, and then can access it as a "new folder" for a diff ipod if I want to dump those tunes into it by just "add folder" command and so on.
Not sure this helps, and maybe that's what folks above were sayiing.
Bottom line is the manual approach is the only way to go...
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 10:18am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
:)
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Poster: | William Tell | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 4:40pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
Yuk.
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Poster: | clashcity | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 9:45am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
This post was modified by clashcity on 2009-07-09 16:45:30
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 10:16am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
thank you VERY much Clash!
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Poster: | spacedface | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 10:41pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Jul 10, 2009 5:54am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
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Poster: | clashcity | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 1:01pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
Just gotta ask google the right question the right way I reckon.
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Jul 12, 2009 5:20pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
and thanks to everyone else too - lots of great hints and ideas!!
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Poster: | clashcity | Date: | Jul 9, 2009 9:40am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
Pretty much why I can't stand their products.
Microsoft might be evil and all, but at least I can make up my own mind as to how I accomplish a task.
Unfortunately, iPod and Zune are really the only 2 players in that greater than 30 GB space.
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Poster: | spacedface | Date: | Jul 13, 2009 8:50pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: IPod question - (kinda dead related) |
You can do the same with SharePod and an iPod as a workaround to Apple's system that Hollywood required to license music. But you have to work on the default playlist in Sharepod so the iPod can see your mp3s.