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Poster:	dead-head_Monte	Date:	Oct 26, 2010 12:15pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Streaming SBDs

Best Way to go - NO PROBLEMS going this way! As Dhamma1 is saying, the very best way to go is to use the links over to the left top of the screen -- VBR M3U (Hi-Fi) or 64Kbps M3U (Lo-Fi). They'll play the whole uninterrupted show in your default audio application. In this mode, you are downloading a playlist file, called a "M3U" file. It is a Text File which contains a playlist. Each track is listed inside this text file - for the entire show. Your Audio Player application (external to your web browser) will be commanded to launch. Then it will stream your playlist using each track's source file. Many Windows users like myself are using the WinAmp Player. WinAmp Standard is free of charge. Other Way to go - this is where the problems are! The streaming audio player, embedded into your web browser - that you are complaining about, appears in the upper right side of a show's page. It is played through a different way, using a 3rd party player known as a "Flow player." It is a 3rd party application. In this case, it is the Adobe Flasher Player. When streaming was first introduced on the LMA, it was used as a quick way users could stream. A control panel and the show's audio playlist is right on the web page. You need not launch a separate application. The 'in-page' Flash player feeds the streams of Audio from the variable bitrate (VBR) stream audio files. The problem is that because it is a 3rd party item, it has been difficult to work with & mold to the LMA uses. Other code problems exist at times. The bugs eventually get worked out, but it takes time. If you are having problems going this way, you should first go to this Adobe Flash Player web page. The table provided contains the latest Flash Player version information available, AND, which version you are currently using. Adobe recommends that all Flash Player users upgrade to the most recent version of the player through the "Player Download Center" to take advantage of security updates. You should then delete your Web Browser's HISTORY in order to clear your Internet Archive's COOKIE from your Browser. You are now in the DEFAULT state. When you browse a web page for a show on The Archive, the built-in Flash Player's default control panel will look like this:

new Audio Tag control panel looks like this:

We are having some bugs right now. Both Flash Player audio tags, or Control Panels, are messed up. Usually the problem is it stops at the end of any track, every time. Often, it will play 3 or 4 tracks, then it stops. It's intermittent. The newer Audio Tag is much more reliable for playing tracks continuously. Switching over to the new tag causes a large pause or hesitation at the start of every Track. It lasts about 5 seconds. It's quite annoying. Sometimes this tag causes NO CONTROL PANEL to appear on some shows. It's intermittent. In this case, you have to switch back to the old tag. Deleting your browser's HISTORY deletes your COOKIES. This generates a reset for the audio tag. Now you'll see your default Control Panel. This is one way you can toggle back and forth. The Archive may provide a link for going back. Sometimes right-clicking, while hovering anywhere over The Flash Player, will provide a "go back" selection for you.

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Poster:	Judge TOOTMO	Date:	Oct 27, 2010 7:43am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Streaming SBDs

DHM:

What show is that that you used for an example above? I want to listen to it when I am done in Miami.

Thanks,
TOOTMO

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Poster:	Pork Soda	Date:	Oct 27, 2010 8:00am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Streaming SBDs

Looks like 6/10/73.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1973-06-10.aud.barry-gadsden.tobin.90796.flac16

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Poster:	Judge TOOTMO	Date:	Oct 27, 2010 8:12am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Streaming SBDs

Duh!! Jim Rockford, I ain't. Thanks Pork Soda. Did you know that that was the first show that DHM ever taped?

TOOTMO

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Poster:	dead-head_Monte	Date:	Oct 27, 2010 8:36am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Streaming SBDs

Saturday show on 6/9/73 was my 1st time taping



I "published" the Taper Story for these 2 shows
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Poster:	dead-head_Monte	Date:	Oct 27, 2010 8:13am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Streaming SBDs

Pork Soda beat me to it! — lmao — hit my 6/10/73 Home Page



my 6/10/73 tapes from RFK Stadium — Sunday show — jam w/ Allman Bros

Set 1 Morning Dew Beat It On Down The Line Ramble On Rose Jack Straw Wave That Flag Looks Like Rain Box Of Rain They Love Each Other The Race Is On Row Jimmy El Paso Bird Song Playing In The Band

Set 2 Eyes Of The World -> Stella Blue Big River Here Comes Sunshine Around And Around Dark Star -> He's Gone -> Wharf Rat -> Truckin' Sugar Magnolia

Set 3 jam with Merl Saunders, Dickey Betts, Butch Trucks It Takes A Lot To Laugh It Takes A Train To Cry That's All Right, Mama The Promised Land Not Fade Away -> Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad -> Drums -> Not Fade Away Johnny B. Goode

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Poster:	Judge TOOTMO	Date:	Oct 27, 2010 8:14am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Streaming SBDs

Thanks, DHM. I guess just listing the first set threw me. For some reason, my car's cd player will only play select cd's that I burn---and your's is one of them. Any theories why?

TOOTMO

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Poster:	AltheaRose	Date:	Oct 26, 2010 8:50pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Streaming SBDs (3d World Shout-out)

No way. This may be largely solving my buffering problems. I hadn't paid attention to previous posts on the issue, cuz that didn't seem to be my problem -- e.g., it wasn't stopping after each song, it just wouldn't buffer. Which I assumed was the molasses-slow download speed in the country where I live. I had various workarounds, but none of them simple. Anyway, I seem to be managing to stream now after a near-instantaneous download ... and it went for five songs before needing to rebuffer! And only a short rebuffer! Woo hoo!!! Probably this will jinx it, LOL, but I appreciate the clear Streaming-for-Dummies explanation from the IA's technical expert back in Fort Fun.

Now, DHM, if you or someone else can figure out 3d World YouTube buffering, it would be a serious global public service. Of the monkeywrenching variety. See, here's the thing. It's not just my cheapo home internet that's slow; I've heard that in the local offices of the World Bank, which may have the best internet setup in the country, folks can't waste time nicely by watching YouTube without looong buffering. So if anyone has a YouTube tip, I'll pass it on in the hopes that the economists and other "development experts" will waste more time on YouTube, and hence do less of their real work, and hence cause fewer problems in the long run :-)

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Poster:	dead-head_Monte	Date:	Oct 27, 2010 7:27am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Streaming SBDs (3d World Shout-out)

please — support Net Neutrality

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Poster:	dead-head_Monte	Date:	Oct 27, 2010 2:35pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Streaming SBDs (3d World Shout-out)

You can download and run Mozilla Firefox totally free of charge. Immediately, add these 2 Tools: 1) Download Them All -- DownThemAll is all you can desire from a download manager: it features an advanced accelerator that increases speed up to 400%, it allows you to pause and resume downloads at any time and, it's fully integrated into Firefox browser. Best way to go for grabbing an entire show! -- GD AUDs, other Collections... images, video, ZIPs...



2) Download Helper -- Download Helper is a free Firefox extension for downloading and converting videos from many sites with minimum effort. Install the extension. Using Download Helper, you can easily save videos from most of the popular video sites. It is also possible to capture all the images from a gallery in a single operation. -- so, you can download, save, and replay YouTube clips offline in the free Win Amp Player -- "Standard Edition" is free. Playing your FLACs and SHNs in Win Amp FLAC Plug-in for Win Amp SHN Plug-in for Win Amp Converting your audio files using the free Trader's Little Helper s/w -- decoding FLAC and SHN files to WAVs for CD burning -- encoding files from WAVs to MP3s -- VBR is recommended -- for playing tracks your i-Pod
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Poster:	AltheaRose	Date:	Oct 27, 2010 9:51pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Streaming SBDs (3d World Shout-out)

Thanks. I'm trying that, but DownThemAll doesn't seem to decrease the amount of buffering needed. Maybe I'm doing it wrong? (Highly likely.) And it's slow again today, boo hoo.

The good part, from my kid's perspective: I homeschool, and often have music on while we work. I just said, "You have a break between math and English ... to the end of this song. (Am trying to stream 5/13/77.) That's five minutes!" Says kiddo: "Hehehe, but it will buffer, so now I've got a loooong break!" Unfortunately, at the moment, he's right ... it paused to buffer, and now it's 10 minutes and counting ... lucky kid ...

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Poster:	reviewr	Date:	Oct 26, 2010 5:08pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Streaming SBDs

Thanks for taking the time to help!

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Poster:	dead-head_Monte	Date:	Jul 10, 2011 11:58am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Streaming SBDs

The Archive's old embedded Flash flow-player has problems

Try switching to The Archive's new open-source Kaltura A/V player