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Bible : N.T. Greek text with critical apparatus (1904)

Author: Nestle, Eberhard, 1851-1913
Subject: Bible
Publisher: London : British and Foreign Bible Society
Possible copyright status: NOT_IN_COPYRIGHT
Language: English
Call number: AMZ-0853
Digitizing sponsor: MSN
Book contributor: Trinity College - University of Toronto
Collection: trinitycollege; toronto

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Reviewer: shejoy - - December 20, 2011
Subject: Grateful thanks
Having just started to study New Testament Greek (Vine's - you can learn New Testament Greek) and being required to obtain Nestle's Greek Testament published by the British and Foreign Bible Society, I am very grateful to have found this book on line.

Reviewer: Spanos - - February 17, 2011
Subject: Historia
Mucha gente sabe sobre el periodo de tiempo de la Reforma, (la lucha por los derechos humanos y la democracia en los anos 1500 y 1600). A veces, la lucha por los derechos (en contra de la jerarquia del Vaticano y de los aristocratas) parece omitido en el contexto historico global. Aqui esta una lista de algunos de los libros sobre el crecimiento de la lucha por la libertad de conciencia y la libertad en Espana. Hay trabajo en varios volumenes sobre la Reforma en Espana, como Antiguos Reformistas Espanoles,

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Muitas pessoas sabem sobre o periodo da Reforma, (a luta pelos direitos humanos e da democracia nos anos 1500 e 1600). As vezes, a luta pelos direitos (contra a hierarquia do Vaticano e os aristocratas) parece omitido a partir do contexto historico global. Aqui esta uma lista de alguns dos livros sobre o crescimento da luta pela liberdade de consciencia e liberdade na Espanha. Ha multi-volume de trabalho sobre a Reforma na Espanha, como espanoles Antiguos Reformistas,

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There are multi-volume work on the Reformation in Spain, such as Reformistas antiguos espanoles, [[ Vol -Tomo # 3]] . ; [[ Vol -Tomo # 4]] . ; [[ Vol -Tomo # 5 ]]. ; [[ Vol -Tomo # 6]]. ; [[ Vol -Tomo # 7]]. ; [[ Vol -Tomo # 12]]. ;


[[ Instrucion Cristiana para los ninos ]] . ; [[ El cielo - Donde esta; sus habitantes ]] . ; [[ Historia de los protestantes espanoles ]]. ; [[ Tratado para confirmar los pobres cautivos de berberia en la Catolica y Antigua Fe y Religion (de Valera), author of Reina-Valera Edition ]]. ; [[ Los dos tratados del Papa, I de la misa (de Valera) ]]. ;


La version Reina Valera 1602 (texto original) - tal vez usted se sorprendera al descubrir que las palabras de las versiones modernas de la Reina Valera se han cambiado. La pregunta es si esto se logro a proposito o no. Hay algunos libros e informacion acerca de los cambios intencionales que se hicieron a algunas de las versiones modernas en Ingles, tal como se describe en la obra de [ Burgon] . ; [ More ] . ; [ Haldane] . ;.
o incluso algunos de los criticos mas moderno. Pero la eleccion de lo que la espiritualidad de una persona decide depende de ellos. Esto incluye las palabras elegidas en las versiones de las Sagradas Escrituras que eligieron. Obviamente, los resultados de esa eleccion se hara evidente tambien. Muchas versiones modernas de las Sagradas Escrituras se han encontrado ambiguo y confuso. En anycase, ahora usted puede hacer las comparaciones y los estudios de las palabras por si mismo.


A versao 1602 Reina Valera (texto original) - talvez voce ficara surpreso ao descobrir que as palavras das versoes modernas da Reina Valera ter sido alteradas. A questao e se ou nao isso foi feito de proposito ou nao. Existem alguns livros e informacoes sobre as mudancas intencionais que foram feitas algumas das modernas versoes em Ingles, tal como descrito na obra de de [ Burgon] . ; [ More ] . ; [ Haldane] . ;.

ou mesmo alguns dos criticos mais modernos. Mas a escolha do que a espiritualidade de uma pessoa a decidir isso e com eles. Isso inclui as palavras escolhidas, nas versoes das Sagradas Escrituras que eles escolheram. Obviamente, os resultados dessa escolha tambem sera evidente. Muitas versoes modernas das Sagradas Escrituras foram encontrados ambigua e confusa. Em anycase, agora voce pode fazer as comparacoes e estudos de palavras para si mesmo.


[[[ The 1602 Reina Valera NT version - nuevo (novo) testamento (original text) ]]]. ;

[[[ The 1602 Reina Valera OT version antiguo (velho) testamento (original text) ]]]. ;


(El Salterio (Psalms - Spanish and Hebrew) ) . ; ( or for the New Testament in Hebrew ) . ; (Geneva Bible (English) ) . ; (or the New Testament in Latin ). ; ( Greek - Griego) . ;

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For information on the Reformation in Spain (in English), works include:

[[[ progress and suppression of the Reformation in Spain, in the sixteenth century]]] . ; [[[ Life and writings of reformer Juan de Valdes ]]] . ; [[[ Commentary on I Corinthians by Juan de Valdes ]]] . ;

For the reformation in Italy, [[ see here ]]. ; [ or here ]. ;


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The 1602 Reina Valera version (original text) - You may be surprised to find out that the words of the modern versions of the Reina Valera have been changed. There seems to be much more to this than natural linguistic drift, or the standard changes that occur as language evolves. The question, when those changes are studied, is whether or not this was accomplished on purpose or not. There are some books and information about some intentional changes that were made to some of the modern versions in English, such as described in the work of [ Burgon] . ; [ More ] . ; [ Haldane] . ;.
or other accurate critics dealing with the original greek text such as Hoskier or Scrivener. But the choice of what spirituality a person decides upon is up to them. This includes the words chosen in the versions of the Holy Scriptures that they chose. Obviously, the results of that choice will be evident also. Many modern versions of Holy Scriptures have been found ambiguous and confusing. In anycase, now you can do the comparisons and the studies of words for yourself.

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Una buena version historica de las Sagradas Escrituras (conocida como la version King James) en Ingles se puede encontrar , [ aqui ]. ;. (En el idioma Ingles), es el mayor diccionarios y definiciones de palabras que son los mas importantes. Tambien es la definicion mas antigua que hacer la mayor diferencia para usted, en relacion con las leyes, y la historia del derecho tambien. Mucha gente quiere cambios mayores leyes porque no lo entiendo. En la mayoria de las naciones mayores del imperio Ingles, las leyes antiguas son las que protegen a la persona comun, la persona promedio. Un muy buen diccionario para el estudio del idioma Ingles es la mas antigua diccionario de Webster, el autor, por ejemplo, su diccionario [[[ Volumen 1 ]]] . ; [[[ Volumen 2 ]]] . ; .

Uma boa versao historica das Escrituras Sagradas (conhecido como King James Version) em Ingles pode ser encontrado , [[ see here ]]. ;. (No idioma Ingles, e o mais dicionarios e definicoes de palavras que sao o mais importante. E tambem as definicoes mais velhos que fazem a diferenca para voce, sobre as leis, e da historia do direito tambem. Muitas pessoas querem mudancas nas leis, mais velhos, porque eles nao entendem. Na maioria das nacoes mais antigas do Imperio Ingles, as leis mais velhos sao os que protegem o individuo comum, a pessoa media. Um dicionario muito bom para o estudo do idioma Ingles e o mais velho dicionario

Webster do autor, por exemplo, seu dicionario [[[ Volume 1 ]]] . ; [[[ Volume 2 ]]] . ; .

The historic KJV version in English can be found [ here] . ; . A very good dictionary for the study of the English language is the work of Webster, dicionario [[ Volume 1 ]] . ; [[ Volume 2 ]] . ; .


Ceux qui veulent le livre historique standard sur l'exactitude des manuscrits du vieux testament peuvent trouver ce livre
( ici ) . ;. Ils peuvent egalement trouver plus d'informations dans le travail de Ginsburg [ Tome # 1 ] . ; [ Tome # 2 ] . ;.

Los que quieren el libro historico estandar en la exactitud de los manuscritos del viejo testamento pueden encontrar ese libro (aqui). ;.. Pueden tambien encontrar mas informacion en el trabajo de Ginsburg (Jacob ben Chajim) [ Tomo # 1 ] . ; [ Tomo # 2 ] . ;.

Aqueles que querem o livro historico padrao na exatidao dos manuscritos do testamento velho podem encontrar esse livro ( aqui ) . ;.. Podem igualmente encontrar mais informacao no trabalho de Ginsburg (Ibn Adonijah) [ Tomo 1 ] . ; [ Tomo 2 ] . ;.

Zij die het standaard historische boek op de nauwkeurigheid van de manuscripten van het Oude Testament willen kunnen dat boek [ hier ] . ;. vinden. Zij kunnen meer informatie in het werk van Ginsburg [ Vol. 1 ] . ; [ Vol. 2 ] . ;.ook vinden .



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Reviewer: 2tellornot - - July 7, 2010
Subject: Nestle's version, and its effect on the reader ?
There is plenty of material available here on dealing with the Jehovah’s Witness perspective. The challenge however, is when the J.W.s simply pull out THEIR interlinear which – after all – simply uses the Nestle-Aland Greek Text, and then they read it as they do. [just do a search online on the 17 missing verses of the NIV, and how the NIV “coincidentally” matches up with the alterations in the J.W. version (the New World Translation). The Older Versions of the Jehovah Witness edition used Codex Sinaiticus, which explains a lot about how they went so far afield (among other things) ].

The problem would be solved if the Evangelicals would simply stick to their genuine historic New Testament in Koine Greek. Nestle was a student and co-worker with Tischendorf. Tischendorf was an opponent of the Reformation, Historic Christianity, and the Bible. ( Ever found any reference where Tischendorf ever claimed to know Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior ? Good luck ! )

Tischendorf is the one who claimed discovery for the rejected manuscript now called Codex Sinaiticus.
All praise to Tischendorf ??? All praise to Nestle ?

How does that verse go ?

Nestle is my shepherd, I shall not want. … (was that “too much” of a paraphrase ? it seemed like the dynamic equivalence of the attitude of too many Seminary Professors, and their errant Shepherds, found in abundance in the 27th book of the N.T.)

Nestle’s version cannot be questioned as he has found Vatican infallibility. Touch not the Lord’s anointed. Only…whose Lord ? Who appeareth as an Angel of Light ?


To an academic world seeking to reject the historic Bible, Tischendorf’s “discovery” put him at the top of the Academic ladder in the German universities which had been leading the assault on Christianity and the Old and New Testaments.

How many verse would YOU freely change, alter, erase, modify, insert or leave out ???

Upon finding Codex Sinaiticus, Tichendorf made more than Three Thousand Five Hundred - 3500 - changes to content of the Bible, his own collation of the Greek New Testament . Nestle used Both the work of Westcott and Hort, AND the work of Tischendorf [Codex Sinaiticus] in what is now the Nestle-Aland. This should be a surprise to no One. Nestle SAYS that he used the collations of Tischendorf, and Westcott and Hort, on PAGE ONE of this New Testament.

Others previously had suggested many problems with Vaticanus based manuscripts, such as:

The English Revisers' [Wescott - Hort] Greek Text: Shown to be Unauthorized, Except by [errant] Egyptian Copies Discarded

http://www.archive.org/details/TheEnglishReviserswescott-HortGreekTextShownToBeUnauthorized

This Nestle Edition is also the 1904 edition, which was the First one that the Bible Societies decided to use as a SUBSTITUTE for the historic Textus Receptus, that had kept Christians spiritually strong and equipped.

But we should not skip over the implication of Nestle’s work :

the Text of Nestle [Nestle-Aland] is a collation, an INVENTION of Nestle, that did not exist before he invented and published it. And it is different from the Historic ancient manuscripts of the Church in THOUSANDS of places.

So congratulations. Those who are using the work of Nestle are basing their relationship with God, [according to them] on a Greek Text that did not exist before the work of Westcott and Hort, except in the rejected Codex Vaticanus, which is known to have been changed and modified by at least TEN different copyists, in that very manuscript.

[oldest most complete Greek manuscript it was said, but NOT by ONE author, with much omitted and many books of the Apocrypha included] .

The Work of the BFBS concerning its dealings with the Apocrypha was previously addressed in Statement of the Bible Society concerning the Apocrypha, at

http://www.archive.org/details/StatementOfTheBibleSocietyConcerningTheApocrypha

Westcott and Hort used Codex Vaticanus as the basis for their translation, and Tischendorf used Codex Sinaiticus [and Nestle used BOTH]. But the further problem is that Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanus contradict EACH OTHER, also in thousands of places. So Nestle just made up his own version, when he wanted to.

The Historic Greek Text [Textus Receptus] can be found in the copy (for example) of Scrivener [1860] at
http://www.archive.org/details/TextusReceptusscrivener1860


Or in the Koine Greek New Testament [also Textus Receptus] published by Cura Wilson at

http://www.archive.org/details/1833HeKaineDiathekeAncientGreekNewTestamentCuraPWilsonTextus02Mark

http://www.archive.org/details/1833HeKaineDiathekeAncientGreekNewTestamentCuraPWilsonTextus10

http://www.archive.org/details/1833HeKaineDiathekeAncientGreekNewTestamentCuraPWilsonTextus19

http://www.archive.org/details/1833HeKaineDiathekeAncientGreekNewTestamentCuraPWilsonTextus27


The qualifications of the Translators of the King James Bible Version of 1611, is available at
http://www.archive.org/details/TranslatorsOfTheKingJamesBibleVersionOf1611


That statement - about the contradictions between Sinaiticus and Vaticanus needs documentation. It cannot simply be a statement without support. The data about the contradictions between Sinaiticus and Vaticanus
[which are in almost every line of both manuscripts ] can be found in the 2 Volume work by Professor Hoskier [U of Mich], in his “Codex B and its Allies”, which is also available online.

Codex B and its allies - Hoskier - Vol 1
http://www.archive.org/details/CodexBAndItsAllies-Hoskier-Part1OfVol1-smallerOrHigherRes

Codex B and its allies - Hoskier - Vol 2
http://www.archive.org/details/codexbanditsalli02hoskuoft


Those seeking a 1602 Spanish version that is accurate may find it here.
http://www.archive.org/details/ReinaValera-1602

The original Spanish Reina Valera also very very different from the popularized [falsely titled] modern Reina Valera of 1960, which bears very little resemblance in content with the historic 1602 version.

Those familiar with the work of Burgon [Oxford] refuting the poor work of Westcott and Hort will find that in his more advanced work the Revision Revised, which is available at

http://www.archive.org/details/a549037300burguoft

Those not familiar with Burgon may wish to start with his more introductory

The traditional text of the Holy Gospels vindicated and established, at:
http://www.archive.org/details/traditionaltexto00burgrich

There is plenty more material dealing with these questions. But this should at least provide some information to those seeking to go a bit further. Don’t expect your seminary professors to back your inquiry. They obtained their job on the basis of their adherence to the Nestle-Aland. To do otherwise would endanger reputation, funding, scholarship, endowments, and publishing contracts. The world and the conditions that the past translators labored under, without glory, funds, or tenure, is very far removed from the comfortable ivory tower of those who will lead many to fall theologically asleep.

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Reviewer: felix glenn - - November 3, 2009
Subject: the true on original greek texts
I would like that the people try to find out by themself on greek original texts, to rebuke false knodledge, as jehova's witnesess doctrine.

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